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| 00:05.33 | julia_robert | i have some problems, systeme freeze, kernel.log says : NVRM: Xid (xxx:xx:xx): 8, channel 00000001 |
| 00:05.47 | onryo | Would a tmpfs ~/.mozilla/firefox/xyzblah.default tmpfs rw,noexec,nodev,nosuid,noatime,mode=1777 0 0 be a way of doing this? |
| 00:06.03 | onryo | in fstab |
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| 00:18.43 | sosofes | karlpinc: X freezes," dmesg|tail" says "[ 14.108629] render error detected, EIR: 0x00000010 |
| 00:18.43 | sosofes | [ 14.108638] [drm:i915_handle_error] *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x00000010, masking |
| 00:18.44 | sosofes | [ 14.108655] render error detected, EIR: 0x00000010 |
| 00:19.43 | tux0 | onryo hello |
| 00:19.54 | onryo | hi tux0 |
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| 00:21.22 | tux0 | onryo do you know about:cache and about:config ? |
| 00:22.06 | onryo | yeah I know it quite a bit about it. Are you thinking about browser.cache.disk.parent_directory? |
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| 00:22.45 | tux0 | no |
| 00:23.06 | onryo | ah please enlighten me. |
| 00:23.29 | epicfail | guys how can i check if i have a x486 or a 686 cpu? |
| 00:24.30 | sosofes | epicfail: uname -a |
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| 00:25.20 | sosofes | karlpinc:hello |
| 00:25.25 | epicfail | sosofes, it tells me what version is installed not what cpu do i have... |
| 00:25.36 | tux0 | epicfail cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 00:25.43 | epicfail | sosofes, is it even possible to install the wrong one? |
| 00:26.22 | tux0 | yes? |
| 00:26.35 | tux0 | you could install a 32bit kernel on a 64bit machine |
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| 00:26.39 | sosofes | epicfail:the installer installas the right kernel for you |
| 00:26.50 | tux0 | which may be "wrong" depending on what you want |
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| 00:27.46 | epicfail | im going to install gentoo on my laptop (unity ubntu sux so hard) |
| 00:28.21 | onryo | tux0 I am seeing tons of junk in about:cache that I do not want to see that are days old. Was hopping that would all be in RAM and gone the next time I start iceweasel |
| 00:28.50 | tux0 | yeh, you probably don't like all those writes to your ssd XD |
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| 00:28.59 | LordDeath | do I need to restart apache2 to apply the phpmyadmin security fix? |
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| 00:31.24 | onryo | tux0 so true. Using a a Vertex 3 that I partitioned with gdisk. Perfectly aligned. I shit you know I am getting 561 MiB/ on reads. noatime, noops etc |
| 00:31.46 | onryo | lol, shit you not* |
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| 00:33.11 | onryo | well GPT |
| 00:33.11 | trist4n | LordDeath: i dont think so. |
| 00:33.15 | trist4n | unless its cached |
| 00:33.45 | onryo | trist4n Ill past the results. |
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| 00:35.18 | tux0 | onryo wow |
| 00:35.24 | tux0 | onryo what about writes? |
| 00:35.32 | onryo | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/oczvertex3maxiopstest.png/ |
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| 00:35.46 | onryo | there are the results of what you can get. |
| 00:35.53 | brah | Can I install Debian on an ext3 drive without formatting it_ |
| 00:35.54 | brah | ? |
| 00:36.29 | tux0 | onryo have you tried disabling "disk" cache? |
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| 00:36.53 | unomystEz | can someone recommend any good tool(s) for anti-root kit, malware, virii, etc.. mainly for Debian desktops? |
| 00:36.55 | tux0 | onryo browser.cache.disk.enable |
| 00:37.05 | tux0 | onryo browser.cache.check_doc_frequency;3 |
| 00:37.22 | overclucker | you could mount tmpfs over cache folders |
| 00:37.27 | tux0 | would assume disabling cache would cause everything to stay in memory |
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| 00:39.20 | onryo | Should I do that set up something like this in fstab too tmpfs the/cache/path tmpfs rw,noexec,nodev,nosuid,noatime,mode=1777 0 0 |
| 00:39.26 | LordDeath | can someone help me with the apache2 configuration for phpmyadmin please? |
| 00:39.58 | LordDeath | I can access my server over https://server.com/ |
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| 00:40.37 | LordDeath | server.com/webaccess for the mailserver is also working with https |
| 00:40.50 | LordDeath | but phpmyadmin.server.com works only with http |
| 00:41.24 | LordDeath | when I try to access it with https I see only the default "it works!" page |
| 00:41.47 | tux0 | LordDeath there is also a #debian on irc.oftc.net and irc.efnet.org and also have you check the debian wiki? |
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| 00:41.52 | overclucker | onryo: if you want to limit it's size dont forget the size= option |
| 00:41.54 | onryo | tux0 or just pass it to /tmp (that is in tmpfs) but what I wrote above |
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| 00:42.41 | onryo | overclucker was thinking about that too. I guess a few GB would be a good idea |
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| 00:44.51 | tux0 | onryo you could symlink to /tmp |
| 00:45.00 | tux0 | and leave fstab alone |
| 00:45.14 | overclucker | not a bad idea |
| 00:45.41 | tux0 | if you are concerned about security though you might want to pay attention to file permissions in /tmp |
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| 00:46.55 | onryo | tux0 hmm yeah have a link with my profile name in /tmp/xyz.profile with a link down to it. |
| 00:47.30 | tux0 | well |
| 00:47.49 | tux0 | maybe just the cache directories and cookie files and whatever else |
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| 00:47.53 | onryo | well from ./mozilla/firefox/xyz.default to /tmp |
| 00:48.11 | tux0 | you may not want your bookmarks in /tmp if you want them to be persistent |
| 00:48.40 | onryo | tux0 I don't want any cookies or anything. I am a bit paranoid...with pride =) |
| 00:49.00 | tux0 | you should be using openbsd then :) |
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| 00:50.32 | Charbel | hi, i'm trying to install debian on 2 laptops but both of them need 2 different non-free firmwares to operate their wireless network hardware, the firmwares are (b43 & iwlwifi) but i don't know where to get those firmwares and how to load them, anyone can help me plz ? |
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| 00:50.49 | jigaboot | Hi |
| 00:50.56 | jigaboot | I just installed debian on my tandy |
| 00:51.04 | jigaboot | and I am trying to get AOL browser to run on it |
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| 00:51.36 | unomystEz | how can |
| 00:51.43 | tux0 | aol has a browser? |
| 00:51.46 | unomystEz | I automount mounts at startup? |
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| 00:52.02 | tux0 | unomystEz man 5 fstab |
| 00:52.36 | onryo | tux0 lol funny you said that. I was just doing my normal cd /usr; cvs checkout -P -rOPENBSD_5_0 src =P |
| 00:52.47 | unomystEz | tux0: OK, I'm using fusefs or some newfangled utility that automounts mounts if I click on them via Thunar, I take it doing it via fstab won't interfere? |
| 00:52.59 | onryo | tux0 but I only use that on high target servers |
| 00:53.08 | unomystEz | tux0: I'm running Xfce 4 |
| 00:53.28 | tux0 | unomystEz fstab you can use to mouse at boot/startup |
| 00:53.34 | tux0 | mouse/mount |
| 00:53.44 | unomystEz | tux0: thanks |
| 00:53.55 | tux0 | if it interferes i do not know sorry never used thunar |
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| 00:54.35 | tux0 | but, what's the point if you are going to use thunar and it automount when clicking :) |
| 00:54.43 | unomystEz | tux0: I use /etc/fstab on my servers but this is a desktop and there's all these newfangled daemons managing everything now.... |
| 00:54.58 | unomystEz | tux0: I want to save a mouse click =) |
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| 00:55.30 | unomystEz | plus other programs need to access those volumes independently of me navigating to them via thunar |
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| 00:56.54 | tux0 | unomystEz also you may just be able to setup the mounts when xfce starts up... |
| 00:57.05 | tux0 | and not mess with fstab |
| 00:57.05 | unomystEz | hmm, yeah it's fusefs that's mount it.. mount(1) shows type fuseblk |
| 00:57.24 | unomystEz | I prefer fstab since I'm familiar with it and trust it =) |
| 00:57.36 | tux0 | also ~/.xinitrc |
| 00:57.52 | tux0 | but if you like the console they will not be automounted at first :) |
| 00:57.53 | unomystEz | just have to make sure it mounts properly and in the same way |
| 00:58.21 | unomystEz | i tend to like to boot to console with in 2048x1536 res on my 30", vim looks like nice =) |
| 00:58.37 | tux0 | unomystEz would assume if you setup fstab to allow any user or particular user to mount/umount thunar would be fine? *shrugs* |
| 00:58.48 | unomystEz | yeah if it's already mounted it'll be fine |
| 00:59.08 | unomystEz | just never seen a fs of type fuseblk before |
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| 00:59.19 | unomystEz | considering it's an ext4 partition |
| 00:59.29 | tux0 | what were you doing? opening thunar to mount your filesystem and then opening a program e.g. the gimp to modify a file? XD |
| 00:59.57 | unomystEz | no, actually for mythtv, it records to those non-autmounted volumes |
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| 01:00.44 | tux0 | oh, mythtv directly accesses the disks? |
| 01:00.46 | askhl_ | Hi. Movies (e.g. in mplayer) play very slowly on my system in squeeze. Maybe the driver should be changed. I have an ATI Radeon Mobility 9700 (very old but quite capable of playing movies - in ubuntu). Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 01:01.10 | tux0 | askhl_ mplayer -vo help |
| 01:01.27 | askhl_ | tux0, so far I tried the different -vo options (mplayer advises me to do so), but none runs any faster (some run slower) |
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| 01:01.50 | tux0 | askhl_ xorg driver issue? |
| 01:02.03 | tux0 | have you tried playing in vlc? |
| 01:02.15 | askhl_ | tux0, vlc is also very slow |
| 01:02.19 | tux0 | ok |
| 01:02.39 | askhl_ | tux0, mplayer loses audio/video synch while vlc simply becomes very sluggish (buttons take a long time) |
| 01:02.42 | tux0 | maybe you need to adjust your xorg conf and choose the "proper/correct" display driver |
| 01:03.21 | tux0 | hrm |
| 01:03.25 | askhl_ | xorg.conf used to be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , but these days it's not there. Should I create one? |
| 01:04.04 | tux0 | if it's not there then it's auto detecting everything when you startup x each time and it probably is choosing the incorrect driver |
| 01:05.08 | tux0 | you can try Xorg -configure which should autogenerate one for you, however i think there is a specific debian way to do it using dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 01:05.55 | Flynn | Hello. |
| 01:06.01 | tux0 | hello Flynn |
| 01:06.16 | askhl_ | tux0, should I expect more than one driver to be installed and possible to use? |
| 01:07.00 | Flynn | I've been trying to upgrade from squeeze to testing. I've changed my sources.list file and proceeded to upgrade on my desktop the same why I upgrade on my netbook (which was successful). However, every time I try to upgrade on the desktop, I get a black screen. |
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| 01:07.28 | Flynn | Since it is black and I can only see the cursor whenever I do something with the mouse or keyboard, I can't tell what is going on. |
| 01:07.36 | Flynn | I've tried several time to install and upgrade. |
| 01:07.51 | askhl_ | I can see there are a few different drivers in the standard repository. I guess I'll try those. Thank you very much for the help, tux0 |
| 01:07.58 | tux0 | askhl_ http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg |
| 01:08.01 | Flynn | I'm using GNOME 3 and have tried the same process I did on my netbook with the same steps. |
| 01:08.20 | tux0 | askhl_ fglrc radeonhd |
| 01:08.28 | tux0 | rather fglrx i think and or radeonhd |
| 01:08.36 | tux0 | maybe |
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| 01:10.06 | Flynn | Any ideas? It makes upgrading impossible for me. |
| 01:10.13 | onryo | tux0 your browser.cache.disk.enable disable seems to really have dropped the IOs (lots) I can still see them in about:cache until I reboot (nice). I take it this is dumping cache in RAM? Do you know where? |
| 01:10.19 | Flynn | I can start in recovery mode without a gui, but I'm mostly a beginner and am not sure what to do from there. |
| 01:10.21 | tux0 | Flynn |
| 01:10.23 | onryo | tux0 btw THX |
| 01:10.43 | tux0 | Flynn you can try upgrading using the console and not Xorg |
| 01:10.52 | askhl_ | tux0, thank you very much |
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| 01:11.27 | Flynn | I have to use a usb modem on the desktop and am not sure how to connect to the internet if I was to do that |
| 01:11.35 | Flynn | Typically I click once or twice with NetworkManager |
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| 01:11.40 | tux0 | Flynn Ctrl+Alt+F1 ... F7 |
| 01:12.05 | Flynn | tux0: and that works in terminal? |
| 01:12.15 | tux0 | no |
| 01:12.16 | someguy123 | hey guys, I was running squeeze earlier, then I upgraded to testing |
| 01:12.22 | someguy123 | how would i go back to stable/squeeze? |
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| 01:13.00 | tux0 | Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F7 will well F1 through F6 will take you to the console and Ctrl+Alt+F7 will bring you back to Xorg/GNOME or whatever you are running |
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| 01:13.14 | onryo | someguy123 I did that once and had huge problems. I use testing an ever once had a problem. |
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| 01:13.32 | someguy123 | onryo I'm already enjoying hell with testing |
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| 01:13.43 | someguy123 | took me a lot of work just to get to testing |
| 01:13.50 | someguy123 | and now I need to go back =_= |
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| 01:14.39 | tux0 | onryo if you disable cache it's not creating a cache i would assume anywhere |
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| 01:15.36 | tux0 | someguy123 why do you need to go back? |
| 01:15.55 | someguy123 | screw it, just going to ask the VPS admin to reformat my box |
| 01:16.05 | someguy123 | too much work, and i've probably broke way too much so far =_= |
| 01:16.13 | onryo | someguy123 I would assume that too but when I do a about:cache it is logging where I have been??? All the same a iotop -oPa show a HUGE difference in IOs etc. |
| 01:16.45 | onryo | above to tux0 |
| 01:16.52 | tux0 | yes i read |
| 01:20.34 | Flynn | tux0: I restarted the desktop in regular mode and it loads like normal. At the time that it normally goes to the login screen, I get a black screen with a blinking underscore. I can't type anything. When I cycle through ctrl+alt+(F1,F2,...) I can briefly see text that asks for my login. Have you heard of an upgrade breaking like this? |
| 01:20.46 | onryo | Is it safe to link my profile to tmpfs with lets say tmpfs rw,noexec,nodev,nosuid,noatime,mode=1777 0 0. Don't want other junk reading whats in my memory. |
| 01:20.58 | tux0 | onryo about:cache?device=disk and about:cache?device=memory |
| 01:21.23 | onryo | tux0 your a god. Thx |
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| 01:23.01 | tux0 | Flynn well, you can login on the console and try to repair the failed upgrade |
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| 01:23.25 | onryo | tux0 not a think on my disk =D just in memory. Coolio ! |
| 01:23.31 | onryo | thing* |
| 01:24.32 | tux0 | onryo you can also use tools like `lsof' to explore what processes are doing and /proc/<PID>/ PID = process id e.g. `pgrep firefox' |
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| 01:25.00 | tux0 | or rather `pgrep iceweasel' :) |
| 01:25.09 | onryo | tux0 on it right now =) |
| 01:28.17 | tux0 | onryo `lsof -p $(pgrep xulrunner)' |
| 01:29.49 | onryo | pgrep iceweasel |
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| 01:30.01 | onryo | pgrep iceweasel |
| 01:30.10 | tux0 | wrong window? :) |
| 01:30.11 | onryo | pgrep firefox |
| 01:30.21 | onryo | lol sry got my shells mixed up |
| 01:30.25 | tux0 | well you could type |
| 01:30.30 | tux0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.46 | tux0 | that should work in your irc client |
| 01:31.08 | onryo | wut? got to give that a try |
| 01:32.12 | onryo | funny I use iw but its only returning a pid for firefox...oh well details. |
| 01:35.21 | felkor | hello, does anybody uses mini-buildd-bld for building debian packages? Im getting this error http://paste.debian.net/153284/ when trying to build hello debian package. TYA |
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| 01:39.37 | tux0 | wb askhl_ |
| 01:40.13 | askhl_ | tux0, thanks. I have tried with the driver 'ati' and with 'radeon'. Unfortunately the same problem appears. (radeonhd does not work) |
| 01:41.14 | askhl_ | So to recap: with 'ati' or 'radeon', mplayer says that my system is too slow (and the movie plays slowly) |
| 01:41.26 | gnarface | askhl_: you could try the commercial drivers provided by ati. they *might* work better |
| 01:41.27 | tux0 | felkor make can't find the Makefile? |
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| 01:42.02 | askhl_ | gnarface, I'll consider it. That's the one called fglrx, is not not? |
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| 01:42.12 | tux0 | askhl_ are ati and radeon real drivers or did make those names up? |
| 01:42.14 | askhl_ | is *it not |
| 01:42.16 | gnarface | askhl_: i believe that is what is called currently, yes |
| 01:42.38 | askhl_ | tux0, the 'Xorg -configure' command listed the valid driver names |
| 01:42.44 | tux0 | oh ok |
| 01:42.56 | tux0 | well you may be missing one and can install it |
| 01:42.57 | gnarface | tux0: they're valid drivers they just don't support more recent cards very well |
| 01:43.47 | gnarface | i think at least... |
| 01:44.18 | gnarface | askhl_: have you looked at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see the errors it gives when you load them? |
| 01:45.06 | tux0 | askhl_ apt-cache search xorg | grep -i ati |
| 01:45.14 | felkor | tux0, i dont know, but i dont think so, ./configure is executed until "checking whether the C compiler works... no". then all sbuild env variables seem unset. build-essential fakeroot and ccache are installed in all chroots. |
| 01:45.53 | felkor | i dont know mini-buildd, it must be some configuration prob |
| 01:46.34 | tux0 | oh, well configure builds the Makefile |
| 01:46.42 | askhl_ | gnarface, I cannot see any "fatal"-lookalike errors in the logfile |
| 01:46.47 | tux0 | hrm let me check your post again sorry I'm not familiar with this |
| 01:48.32 | askhl_ | I'll try a few more drivers |
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| 01:48.44 | felkor | tux0, there is a Makefile.am in the package |
| 01:49.12 | felkor | its the hello package, kindof hello world. it shoud build |
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| 01:54.07 | tux0 | felkor permissions issue? ccache: failed to create /sbuild-nonexistent/.ccache (No such file or directory) |
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| 01:57.41 | felkor | tux0, I've seen that too, I've found http://bugs.debian.org/589817, which says it shouldnt be a problem |
| 01:58.17 | LordTrev | I have a wacom tablet (ID 056a:0015 Wacom Co., Ltd Graphire 4 4x5) and it was working but no longer is... |
| 01:58.24 | LordTrev | I don't know what messed up at all |
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| 01:59.26 | tux0 | felkor have you tried manually installwing `aptitude install build-essential' or `apt-get install build-essential' ? |
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| 02:00.06 | tux0 | LordTrev what did you do? |
| 02:00.15 | tux0 | LordTrev update/upgrade debian? |
| 02:00.30 | askhl | Unfortunately it seems as if all the other drivers refuse to start x. Only 'ati' and 'radeon' will run |
| 02:00.33 | LordTrev | tux0, yeah, but only dist-upgrade |
| 02:00.58 | tux0 | well LordTrev but only dist-upgrade upgrades the entire install :) |
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| 02:01.19 | felkor | tux0, the builds are in chroots. mini-buildd default configuration installs those packages by default. the log says both build-essential and ccache are installed |
| 02:01.21 | LordTrev | tux0, ok look, I know I upgraded, I upgrade frequently |
| 02:01.40 | gnarface | askhl: well, you can probably get the 'vga' and 'vesa' drivers to work with some tweaking, but if the ati and radeon drivers aren't fast enough none of the others will be either. |
| 02:01.44 | askhl | I wonder what Ubuntu does which makes it work there. I think Ubuntu doesn't have a proprietary driver for my card |
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| 02:01.57 | LordTrev | It's not helping me. I've got xserver-xorg-input-wacom installed |
| 02:02.08 | gnarface | askhl: i'm almost certain Ubuntu in fact DOES distribute the proprietary driver by default for your card |
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| 02:03.19 | tux0 | askhl have you tried the fglrc-driver package? |
| 02:03.20 | askhl | gnarface: I don't think so. They stopped doing that for mobility9700 a number of years back, and since then I haven't been able to use the fancy graphics |
| 02:03.37 | askhl | tux0: that's not in the standard repositories, is it? |
| 02:04.04 | askhl | gnarface: in any case it's been years since I had any proprietary graphics driver enabled |
| 02:04.08 | askhl | (visibly) |
| 02:05.05 | tux0 | askhl it's in the non-free repository |
| 02:05.19 | askhl | tux0: ah, thanks |
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| 02:05.48 | askhl | Well, I guess I'll bite the sour apple (as we say in my language) and install that one |
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| 02:06.20 | tux0 | :) |
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| 02:06.50 | tux0 | askhl you could also try running mplayer in framebuffer console with `mplayer -vo fbdev -zoom -xy 1024' etc. |
| 02:07.58 | tux0 | LordTrev have you check your xorg.conf? |
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| 02:08.32 | LordTrev | tux0, rebooting, something probably didn't get probed properly when hibernating |
| 02:08.34 | LordTrev | rebooted* |
| 02:08.55 | askhl | tux0: not sure how to run something in 'framebuffer console' |
| 02:09.23 | tux0 | Ctrl+Alt+F1 ... F6 and Ctrl+Alt+F7 to switch back to Xorg |
| 02:10.04 | tux0 | well, actually once you are at the console you can just use Alt+F1 ... F7 to switch |
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| 02:10.38 | tux0 | and Alt+-> (right arrow) and <- |
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| 02:11.45 | askhl | Oh, they're just the non-X-consoles. Thanks |
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| 02:13.00 | askhl | tux0: it runs, but is in black/white... |
| 02:13.52 | askhl | Oh well, I'm trying the fglrx next. |
| 02:14.10 | tux0 | hrm i think there are some specific ati framebuffer drivers |
| 02:14.15 | tux0 | for the console |
| 02:14.22 | wolfric | how do i see what the latest updates did? |
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| 02:17.33 | tux0 | felkor there is also #debian on irc.oftc.net |
| 02:18.09 | felkor | tux0, ty, i'll try there too. thanks for your help. |
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| 02:20.16 | tux0 | wolfric /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 02:24.12 | askhl | Hmmm. Unfortunately still no luck. It's getting a bit late here, so I'll have to get some sleep. Thank you very much for the help though |
| 02:24.15 | wolfric | tux0: i'm just trying to find out if the latest kernel update was for http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/15704/ this |
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| 02:28.01 | gnarface | askhl: regardless of which driver you choose you very possibly will have to make a custom xorg.conf just to get it to work. |
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| 02:45.03 | web4free | hi ,everyone |
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| 02:48.50 | tux0 | hello web4free |
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| 02:57.28 | tux0 | wolfric /usr/share/linux-image-*/changelog.Debian.gz |
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| 02:58.48 | wolfric | tux0: sure that's the right location? don't see linux-image in /usr/share |
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| 03:11.32 | edju | lost wireless after sleep. after a connection attempt, /var/log/daemon.log has a couple of entries that don't look good. like "Registering new address record for 169.254.7.148 on wlan0.IPv4." where's that ip coming from, and is it related to no wifi? |
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| 03:16.00 | tux0 | edju ifconfig -a ? |
| 03:16.36 | z28 | edju: thats automatic private ip addressing which can happen when you fail to get a dhcp address, something is wrong but i don't know exactly what. |
| 03:16.43 | kl4m | 169.254 are private automatic IPs |
| 03:16.54 | kl4m | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address |
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| 03:17.06 | kl4m | edju, ^ |
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| 03:17.49 | DasEi | edju: nothing to worry, if wlan is configured try ifudon/up on that wlan |
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| 03:18.31 | DasEi | ifdown wlan0 && ifup wlan0 as root |
| 03:18.43 | edju | kl4m, yes, but it's not my private ip - 192.168.1.254 is the router, e.g. |
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| 03:19.24 | DasEi | edju: it'slike a dummy address when something went wrong |
| 03:19.35 | z28 | edju: I would give your router a reboot, maybe the dhcp server got whacked somehow. |
| 03:19.43 | edju | DasEi, it says wlan0 not configured. |
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| 03:20.25 | edju | z28, other machines have access so . . . |
| 03:20.51 | DasEi | edju: your router provides dhcp I guess, so quick shot dhclient as root, else 3 lines in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:21.26 | z28 | edju: hrm, /etc/hosts file looks ok? If the other boxes didnt release or request a new ip, it could still cause it. |
| 03:21.29 | edju | I've tried all sorts of things - rkill, iwconfig, ifup, etc etc etc . I have no idea ofn the state of things now. |
| 03:22.09 | DasEi | ... and when up again, arpwatch and loong passwords ;) |
| 03:23.21 | DasEi | edju: try to set it up in interfaces, restart service;; as someone mentioned above, ifconfig tells the wlan0 we assume here ? |
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| 03:24.38 | edju | DasEi, I read somewhere that interfaces should be left alone. |
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| 03:25.44 | edju | But, I'll try to edit it. |
| 03:26.03 | DasEi | edju: your choice, it overides mw-manager and autoconfig, if a reboot won't fix it , so nics up, then move up to dns, hosts, fw, router .. |
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| 03:26.51 | edju | DasEi, mw-manager? |
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| 03:27.30 | DasEi | edju: networkmanager, shi.. tablet and 4:27 morning here,sorry |
| 03:27.44 | edju | I use wicd. |
| 03:27.55 | DasEi | y |
| 03:28.41 | edju | I'll edit interfaces and be back. |
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| 03:41.02 | DasEi | edju: success? |
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| 03:45.41 | edju | DasEi, Nope. |
| 03:47.24 | Crypticfortune | I'm using mediawiki out of squeeze for some reason most of my <math> does not work...it seems nothing is getting written to images/math/* why might this be? (for sanity sake I granted world writable permission to images) |
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| 03:47.47 | Crypticfortune | texvc does work (testing it manually gives me correct images), but no errors going to apache/error.log or anywhere else I can find....what's going on here? |
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| 03:51.42 | somiaj | Crypticfortune: have you read any additional docs in /usr/share/doc/pkgname -- that main contain useful info. |
| 03:52.14 | Crypticfortune | mediawiki-math has absolutely nothing on the subject =/ |
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| 03:54.15 | Crypticfortune | and mediawiki/README.Debian says setting "$wgUseTex = true" should be enough... *sigh* |
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| 03:56.39 | Algo | Erik___: Hey |
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| 03:57.01 | Erik___ | I asked about this earlier, but I still haven't found a solution |
| 03:57.28 | Erik___ | I am trying to upgrade from squeeze to testing on my desktop |
| 03:57.39 | Erik___ | I get a black screen when upgrading (I'm doing the same method that worked on my netbook) |
| 03:57.54 | Erik___ | I've tried the method several times on several squeeze installs |
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| 03:57.59 | z28 | Algo: http://www.rmcgeeney.com/Screenshot.png |
| 03:59.04 | Erik___ | But it still hasn't worked on the desktop and I'm unsure of what the problem is |
| 04:01.18 | Crypticfortune | Gah! It's been writing all of its images to /var/lib/mediawiki instead of my own wiki elsewhere...grrrr =/ |
| 04:01.23 | Algo | z28: nice |
| 04:01.46 | z28 | Algo: no frills, no eye candy but stable as a rock. |
| 04:03.23 | z28 | Algo: umm, thanks :) |
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| 04:12.52 | DasEi | edju: sorry, was away for a minute, so ifconfig -a now tells about wlan? |
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| 04:53.38 | Future28 | Hey guys, can anyone help me with my startup scripts? They wont work, I'm using LXDE and can't get my conky to run on startup. |
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| 04:54.38 | Future28 | I created a .xinitrc in my home directory and added 'conky &' to it, yet it still isn't working. |
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| 04:55.30 | civillian | Future28: have you checked .xsession-errors |
| 04:56.09 | Future28 | I will do that now |
| 04:56.28 | somiaj | Future28: how are you logging into your desktop? If you are using slim for some reason (despite the documenatation) it only reads the .xsession file, so put that in .xsession (instead of .xinitrc) |
| 04:56.53 | somiaj | also make sure you contain the binary to launch the lxde wm/desktop in your .xsession file |
| 04:58.20 | Future28 | Well I just got debian squeeze the other day so I am using the gui to log in, and default is set to lxde. I will put that into the .xsession file now, what else do I need to do? |
| 04:59.26 | Future28 | Also, where is .xsession, or do I need to create it? |
| 04:59.29 | somiaj | I don't know the name of the binary that launches the lxde desktop |
| 04:59.32 | somiaj | you need to create it |
| 05:00.20 | somiaj | (there also may be other ways to set up startup problems in the lxde desktop) |
| 05:00.32 | Future28 | Yep so I have created the .xsession in my home directory, now I will search for the lxde binary |
| 05:00.53 | somiaj | http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=111 |
| 05:01.01 | somiaj | seems there is a more lxde paticular way to do it |
| 05:01.10 | somiaj | Future28: this method will work, but there are lxde paticular methods |
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| 05:01.15 | civillian | Future28: you might try just putting conky & in your .xsession file |
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| 05:01.23 | civillian | if everything else is working OK |
| 05:01.47 | civillian | Although I've never used lxde |
| 05:01.52 | somiaj | http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXSession#Automatically_start_some_applications_on_login |
| 05:01.55 | civillian | so your mileage may vary |
| 05:02.05 | somiaj | I would follow that and put a conky.desktop file in ~/.config/autostart |
| 05:02.18 | somiaj | i.e. best to use the methods on the desktop of choice. |
| 05:02.26 | civillian | somiaj: that seems cleaner :) |
| 05:03.10 | somiaj | seems it will also be honored by any desktop that honorse freedesktop.org standards |
| 05:03.23 | somiaj | so if he used xface, or gnome the startup programs will still be there |
| 05:03.28 | loop- | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.43 | loop- | start $DE |
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| 05:04.08 | loop- | that will set your default DE on a user basis |
| 05:04.17 | somiaj | loop-: unforntally due to the /etc/X11/Xsession file in debian, .xinitrc is ingored by some dm's and .xsession is the default to use. |
| 05:04.29 | somiaj | there is a .xsessionrc too |
| 05:04.33 | Future28 | I'll try that autostart way first |
| 05:04.37 | Future28 | I'm making the file now |
| 05:04.56 | loop- | xinitrc works for kde and gnome |
| 05:05.20 | somiaj | loop-: its the display manager more than the desktop. .xinitrc is the default read by 'startx' too |
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| 05:06.09 | Future28 | I'll be back, testing now. |
| 05:06.16 | Future28 | Rebooting |
| 05:06.48 | somiaj | loop-: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/03/msg05204.html |
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| 05:12.55 | loop- | yea i startx through root a lot |
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| 05:15.08 | Future28 | That worked, thanks for the help everyone. |
| 05:15.19 | loop- | update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 05:15.27 | loop- | to set your default wm |
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| 05:35.01 | skilz | Whats the best way to steam all my mp3s on my server to listen to them on my other pcs? |
| 05:35.02 | jasonsmr | hi debian channel |
| 05:35.23 | jasonsmr | Im loking at a big install, I need help simply on this command> chroot DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive DEBCONF_NONINTERACTIVE_SEEN=true \ |
| 05:35.23 | jasonsmr | LC_ALL=C LANGUAGE=C LANG=C dpkg --configure -a |
| 05:36.10 | jasonsmr | i get errors with the attempted ^^ this error says >>chroot: cannot change root directory to DEBIAN_FRONTEND=./debian_amd64_wheezy: No such file or directory |
| 05:36.32 | jasonsmr | note im on a non debian system |
| 05:36.40 | jasonsmr | debian based |
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| 05:37.12 | jasonsmr | whatever that means apparently the debootstrap cross-prep isnt working?? |
| 05:37.17 | civillian | skilz: I've used apache's mod-musicindex |
| 05:37.25 | jasonsmr | the debootstrap did finish |
| 05:37.27 | civillian | skilz: there are others too, ProMP3 |
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| 05:38.58 | skilz | Whats the easyest to configure |
| 05:39.03 | jasonsmr | Rather How can I trigger post install scripts from a different arch on non debian system |
| 05:39.16 | civillian | skilz: mod music index was easy, from memory |
| 05:39.47 | skilz | How do I install that? |
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| 05:41.35 | civillian | skilz: there is a package |
| 05:41.40 | civillian | skilz: libapache2-mod-musicindex |
| 05:41.48 | civillian | google how to install that |
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| 05:50.59 | skilz | how to fix this? |
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| 05:52.00 | civillian | skilz: have you googled the error? |
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| 06:11.16 | gary_golden | any way to force make to run against /bin/bash instead of /bin/sh ? |
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| 06:14.16 | dies_irae | hei |
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| 06:15.54 | dies_irae | what's the russian channel? |
| 06:16.36 | dies_irae | #debian-ru is emtpy |
| 06:16.53 | scientes | #debian-ru on irc.oftc.net |
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| 06:18.25 | dies_irae | lol why there?? |
| 06:18.34 | dies_irae | that crazy |
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| 06:24.25 | somiaj | dies_irae: irc.oftc.net is the offical debian irc network, that is why you should look there. |
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| 06:30.56 | dies_irae | w00t |
| 06:32.33 | dies_irae | however, that message unlikely to go away and the 'ata6: hard resetting link' is a portentous message. |
| 06:32.40 | dies_irae | oops wrong chan |
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| 06:38.43 | dies_irae | somiaj: interesting, why not freenode?? |
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| 06:39.17 | somiaj | dies_irae: I forget (or never knew) the reason behind debian leaving freenode years ago. I think it is partly they wanted a network ran on debian machines. |
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| 06:39.43 | somiaj | dies_irae: I had a mobo that shouted out that error to me a lot, never saw it as an issue and system ran fine |
| 06:39.49 | skilz | Please help, I done apt-get install mysql and this is what I got http://pastebin.com/mwNtUabk |
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| 06:41.42 | dies_irae | ha ha, actually that's an excellent reason!! |
| 06:42.20 | somiaj | skilz: well here is my suggestion. 1) you can modify the postinst script and comment out the invoke-rc.d line (so it never actually tries to start the server) |
| 06:42.35 | somiaj | skilz: this will make it so the package will configure correctly and finish installing (Fixing dpkg/apt) |
| 06:42.43 | somiaj | skilz: after that you can try to track down why the server won't start. |
| 06:42.52 | skilz | Okay |
| 06:43.19 | somiaj | after you fix the post install script just run 'dpkg --configure -a' (since if you tried to reinstall it with apt-get it would extract the postinst script again causing the same issue) |
| 06:43.20 | skilz | WHere is the script? |
| 06:43.23 | samba35 | how do i get full desktop with ssh +xming ,i am able to get firefox and other gui but how to get full desktop |
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| 06:45.05 | dies_irae | somiaj: what freenode running on?? don't tell me m$$ I$$ |
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| 06:45.48 | somiaj | dies_irae: I don't know, nor do I know why debian moved the offical irc network, though many have been here in #debian since before that and have stayed and still help. (: |
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| 06:47.07 | somiaj | http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml -- not sure if that tells much about the underlining OS |
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| 06:53.19 | somiaj | samba35: have you tried to run the desktop launcher for your desktop? |
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| 06:53.37 | samba35 | yes i got it from free nx |
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| 07:04.29 | somiaj | dies_irae: http://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060604 (dosen't really give a reason but there is the post about the change) |
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| 08:00.48 | MarkG123 | Can someone help me out with this error: "gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on homedir `/etc/spamassassin/sa-update-keys'" |
| 08:01.31 | MarkG123 | I have played with ownership and permissions recursively on /etc/spamassassin/ and it's made no difference |
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| 08:07.59 | gnarface | MarkG123: you probably want to set it to 750 or 550 and make sure its owned by the same group as the spamassassin user |
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| 08:12.43 | MarkG123 | It's currently: drwxr-xr-x 4 spamd root 816 Jan 13 11:22 spamassassin |
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| 08:14.10 | MarkG123 | changed it to: dr-xr-x--- spamd spamd |
| 08:14.21 | MarkG123 | i'll see what happens. |
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| 08:21.30 | skilz | What lines do I have to add to sources.list to use these sources? http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ |
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| 08:22.28 | skilz | Please help!! I cant get the volatile squeeze-updates and security squeeze-updates lines to work.. what should they be? |
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| 08:28.07 | jelly-home | skilz: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215 for the replacement for volatile |
| 08:28.23 | jelly-home | !tell skilz about squeeze security |
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| 08:33.26 | skilz | jelly, I already have the security lines in there, but I want to use the aarnet mirror for security updates, I tryied the lines deb ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian-security/ squeeze/update main but didnt work |
| 08:34.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | skilz: pastebin errors |
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| 08:34.53 | jelly-home | skilz: security.d.o does not have official mirrors. |
| 08:35.20 | jelly-home | all the servers hide behind the same DNS round-robin name |
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| 08:37.00 | s70rm | hello * |
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| 08:39.57 | skilz | Kamping_Kaiser, http://pastebin.com/DYUVTjRZ |
| 08:41.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | according to ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian-volatile/dists there is no squeeze-updates in debian-volatile |
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| 08:41.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | on that mirror |
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| 08:43.46 | brown_sugar | hey guys, come check this out http://zpag.es/9ZlN |
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| 08:45.19 | skilz | What about for http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian-security/dists/squeeze/updates/?? Would that be deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian-security/dists/squeeze/updates/ squeeze-update main or???? |
| 08:46.05 | DelTree | volatile is old name... |
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| 08:46.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | skilz: no |
| 08:46.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | skilz: are you attached to the aarnet network? |
| 08:46.39 | skilz | Yes |
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| 08:47.19 | skilz | I have unlimited downloads from the network |
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| 08:47.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | must be nice (: |
| 08:48.22 | skilz | Expensive though. I'm using pre-paid mobile broadband |
| 08:48.36 | skilz | 50$-3gb |
| 08:48.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | um, how can you be on mobile broadband and attached to aarnet? |
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| 08:49.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | looks like http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian is the root of aarnets debian mirror. after that it should be laid out like any other debian sources.list |
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| 08:50.17 | xingu | unlimited... infinite bandwidth, infinitesimal delay? |
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| 08:53.25 | afidegnum | hello, pls using apt-get, where do programs get installed by default? |
| 08:53.41 | afidegnum | I have installed a flight simulation game |
| 08:53.53 | afidegnum | and I want to add extra propoerties to its folder |
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| 08:56.24 | skilz | Kamping_Kaiser, my ISP is connected to aarnet |
| 08:56.46 | skilz | Telstra |
| 08:57.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | afidegnum: to the filesystem |
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| 08:57.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | skilz: you sure aarnet is unmetered over mobile? i'm surprised that it would be |
| 08:57.40 | skilz | Yep it is, It has a green light |
| 08:57.52 | DelTree | volatile should be: http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ squeeze-update main |
| 08:57.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | tbh, i didn't realise aarnet was unmetered to most telstra users, so i guess i'm learning somethere there too |
| 08:58.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | skilz: handy. |
| 08:59.36 | skilz | :) |
| 09:00.12 | jelly-home | skilz: first you need to stop confusing the security repo and squeeze-updates. |
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| 09:01.17 | jelly-home | skilz: then find the root directory for the repo (hint: it's the one that has a dists/ subdir), and use that as the repo URI |
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| 09:02.45 | jelly-home | skilz: that means: replace "http://security.debian.org" in your config with "http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian-security", and keep the rest of the line intact |
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| 09:14.24 | skilz | Is there some command that I can run to update my computer and my server at the same time like 'sudo apt-get update && ssh user@host:password && sudo apt-get update' something along those lines??? |
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| 09:17.01 | babilen | skilz: You might want to look into distributed shells such as dsh, dish or dancershell. |
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| 09:17.25 | skilz | Okay |
| 09:17.33 | bs0d | Hello guys |
| 09:18.11 | v2 | Hi, how can i update gcc on ubuntu? aptitude update gcc didn't work |
| 09:18.31 | bs0d | I have just installed a fresh copy of Debian, Im bothered getting a driver for my NVidia card, is there any proposed NVidia drivers in repo or I should download and install it from the offsite? |
| 09:19.06 | bs0d | v2, install it manually? |
| 09:19.22 | v2 | bs0d: Shit ... dont like that |
| 09:19.44 | babilen | skilz: You can, however, also follow your initial intuition to use SSH for things like this. (ssh foo@bar.org 'cmd1 ; cmd2 ; cmd3') |
| 09:20.14 | bs0d | v2 Im not the best to suggest, Im only a newbie, but I think that if there is no deb package in repository, than only manually you can install more recent version of it |
| 09:20.52 | babilen | v2: Please ask in #ubuntu (this is #debian) -- You can join their channel with "/join #ubuntu" -- Have fun! |
| 09:21.36 | bs0d | guys, can you tell me something interesting about Nvidia drivers? Are there any proposed drivers in paclages db I should use? |
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| 09:22.37 | babilen | bs0d: I would recommend to go the DKMS way as detailed in "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" -- Please also see "/msg dpkg nvidia" and check which driver supports your card with the nvidia-detect tool. |
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| 09:23.49 | rly | My thrashcan doesn't work anymore. How can I restart just the trashcan service? |
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| 09:24.34 | rly | I get some dbus error and it is whining about remote connections (it is a phracking local directory!). |
| 09:25.21 | rly | Also, how on Earth they managed to make 'display local directory' and add a nice icon somewhere not work remains a mystery. |
| 09:25.36 | rly | Likewise for the fact that this has been an issue since 2009. |
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| 09:26.58 | rly | Make that 2006. |
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| 09:30.53 | babilen | bs0d: Oh, nvidia-detect is in backports (/msg dpkg bdo) along with version 275.36 of the nvidia driver. |
| 09:31.30 | rly | Is the nvidia driver already bugfree? |
| 09:31.46 | rly | Or does it suck as much as fglrx? |
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| 09:37.00 | babilen | rly: It is most certainly not bug-free and I have yet to find a reliable metric to measure "suckiness" in order to answer your second question. It seems to work reliable for a large number of users though and also seems to be the driver of choice for nvidia cards. Nouveau is *always* worth a try though, in particular if use newer versions (such as those in backports) |
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| 09:42.40 | bs0d | Im reading manual on how to use DKMS, it sais to install kernel keaders and dkms itself, and "DKMS will take care of everything" but I still do not understand should I run some programm or command for it to run? |
| 09:42.55 | petern_ | it really means it |
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| 09:43.14 | petern_ | "DKMS enables kernel device drivers to be automatically rebuilt when a new kernel is installed." |
| 09:43.38 | babilen | !tell bs0d -about nvidia dkms |
| 09:43.40 | DelTree | linux-image post-install scripts will run it... |
| 09:43.45 | aguitel | how remove gnome 3.x ? |
| 09:43.59 | bs0d | I just installed a fresh copy of Debian , I do not think I will install a new kernel .. but I would like to get an nvidia driver |
| 09:44.09 | babilen | bs0d: That is all you need -- You can and should ask dpkg about the other factoids I mentioned as well. |
| 09:44.15 | bs0d | DelTree hope so |
| 09:44.29 | babilen | aguitel: What constitutes gnome3 and what is the desired outcome of said removal? |
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| 09:44.58 | rly | Does anyone know how I can 'repair' my trash? |
| 09:45.07 | rly | I tried logging back in, but that didn't help. |
| 09:45.11 | aguitel | babilen, i want to install kde and only remain this |
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| 09:46.34 | ryannathans | I can't find a good wpa_supplicant guide, I can't get it working, can someone guide me through? |
| 09:46.57 | ryannathans | CRTL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys -- what does this mean? |
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| 09:47.40 | babilen | aguitel: Ok, what constitutes gnome3? Do you merely don't want to be aware of its existence anymore (as in: not being offered the session)? Or would you rather want to remove *all* gnome related programs? (see http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.2-status.html for a list) Or do you want to remove every single piece of software that uses the GTK widget toolkit? (only gtk3?..) |
| 09:49.36 | babilen | aguitel: All that being said/asked: How did you install gnome? You could simply reverse that action and be done with it. If you installed the "gnome-desktop-environment" package for example you could simply remove/purge that (and so on) |
| 09:50.21 | aguitel | babilen, want to remove all programs and libreries |
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| 09:50.30 | babilen | ryannathans: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz is a good read |
| 09:50.41 | ryannathans | babilen: thankyou |
| 09:51.23 | babilen | aguitel: Are you sure? |
| 09:51.36 | aguitel | babilen, yes |
| 09:52.01 | babilen | aguitel: Ok, how did you install gnome? |
| 09:52.15 | aguitel | babilen, with cd |
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| 09:52.59 | bs0d | hmm I've installed kernel headers and dkms and nothing happened .. post-install scripts didn't run anything :( |
| 09:53.20 | bs0d | as I understood, dkms should build a kernel module, should I run it some how ? |
| 09:53.27 | ryannathans | babilen: how do i ungzip this? I'm getting stupid errors |
| 09:54.03 | ryannathans | got it |
| 09:54.34 | aguitel | babilen, when i type /msg dpkg remove gnome this is only for gnome 2.x ,and for gnome 3.x ? |
| 09:54.39 | bs0d | "DKMS will take care of the build and install process automatically. " this is according to manual, but I did not get any install process :( Please help |
| 09:54.45 | babilen | aguitel: The following command should get rid of most/all of it though: "aptitude purge '~i~R^gnome$' '~i~RRecommends:^gnome$' '~i~n^libgtk'" -- If not: Adjust the initial two search terms for smaller gnome-related metapackages. |
| 09:55.32 | babilen | aguitel: I have to warn you that this *will* remove a large number of programs and I can assure you that you almost certainly *don't* want to remove all programs that use the GTK widget toolkit. But as you said that this is what you are after ... |
| 09:56.14 | aguitel | babilen, |
| 09:56.35 | babilen | aguitel: You should be familiar with aptitude's search syntax and you can see a short overview of gnome related metapackages in the <install gnome> factoid. |
| 09:56.37 | DelTree | wow... those ~i ~R ~n ... just wow... |
| 09:56.40 | bs0d | ah, I think better just compile the official driver from the nvidia offsite |
| 09:56.50 | babilen | !tell DelTree -about aptitude search |
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| 09:57.30 | babilen | DelTree: Aptitude provides quite advanced search functionality and it is worth to learn at least the basics. |
| 09:57.54 | aguitel | n |
| 09:57.58 | aguitel | ok |
| 09:58.23 | DelTree | babilen: well... I'm really using *basics*... i.e. aptitude search foo... if that doesn't find what I want, I go to p.d.o... |
| 09:58.40 | babilen | Yeah :) |
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| 10:01.14 | babilen | aguitel: I would personally recommend by removing/purging whatever packages are matched by the first two search terms. Adjust that for smaller metapackages too -- the libgtk one is, well, most likely too broad to your liking. Why did you install gnome in the first place? It should also be noted that you can use "tasksel remove desktop" -- It is also a good idea to *not* do this within Gnome/X ;) |
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| 10:02.14 | bs0d | can anybody tell me exactly what should happen after I installed dkms? |
| 10:02.17 | bs0d | Im a bit stuck |
| 10:02.22 | babilen | DelTree: See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579603 for some real brainfuck :) |
| 10:02.39 | aguitel | babilen, ok |
| 10:03.03 | DelTree | ah tiens... ça me fait penser que j'en ai un bugreport en souffrance depuis un bail... |
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| 10:03.25 | babilen | bs0d: The module should have been compiled for your card and you can now create a suitable Xorg configuration snippet for nvidia as detailed in "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" -- Did you run all those commands and did you verify with nvidia-detect that your card is supported? |
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| 10:04.25 | bs0d | I did not find nvidia-detect tool unfortunately from aptitude :( |
| 10:04.35 | bs0d | there is no such package |
| 10:04.40 | babilen | bs0d: It is in backports (/msg dpkg bdo) as I mentioned earlier |
| 10:04.44 | babilen | ,v nvidia-detect |
| 10:04.46 | judd | Package: nvidia-detect on i386 -- squeeze-backports/non-free: 280.13.really.275.36-1~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 290.10-1; wheezy/non-free: 290.10-1; experimental/non-free: 295.09-1 |
| 10:05.18 | Mogget | Is it possible for me to make the kernel do a "setxkbmap us" whenever i press F12 |
| 10:05.35 | babilen | ugh |
| 10:05.37 | Mogget | Or is this something i has to do in the windows manager / lxde |
| 10:05.42 | babilen | yes |
| 10:06.42 | Mogget | Thank you. |
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| 10:07.43 | skilz | Just wondering with squid when I point my browser to my squid server I get access denied something to do with access control, what do I have to edit to allow all sites to my network? |
| 10:08.03 | bs0d | babilen still dont find it .. I make a search on "nvidia-detect" maybe it is under another name in there? |
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| 10:08.55 | babilen | Mogget: What are you trying to do? -- Most desktop environments have some functionality to switch between/define different keyboard layouts with a key-combo -- X can do this as well, but you have to define multiple configurations in /etc/default/keyboard, which allows you to switch with ALT-SHIFT -- Unfortunately I have to run now, but we can continue this later. |
| 10:09.03 | babilen | !tell Mogget about keymap |
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| 10:09.44 | bs0d | I use aptitude -t squeeze-backports search "nvidia-detect" and no results |
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| 10:10.18 | babilen | bs0d: Did you enable/configure backports repositories already? Did you run "aptitude update" or "apt-get update" afterwards? Which card do you have? (lspci -nn|grep -i vga) |
| 10:11.04 | bs0d | yes, I've added backports to sources list and run apt-get update, as per instructions on the backports website. |
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| 10:11.14 | bs0d | I have NVidia 8800 GT card |
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| 10:12.04 | babilen | bs0d: I'll check which driver version you need and you can paste the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy nvidia-detect" along with your sources.list in the meanwhile? Deal? |
| 10:12.06 | bs0d | lspci outout looks like this: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GT] [10de:0611] (rev a2) |
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| 10:12.37 | bs0d | babylen ok |
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| 10:13.47 | ryannathans | babilen: i still can't get it working |
| 10:14.14 | aguitel | babilen, another question ,i am in squeeze right now with this video card:Geoforce FX 5500 using nvidia-173xx driver ,what will happen when wheezy become stable about this driver (now is not supported) |
| 10:14.45 | babilen | bs0d: Ok, well -- There is no real need to do that, because the driver version in squeeze supports your card (cf. ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/195.36.31/README/README.txt) -- All you have to do to get it running is executing the commands in "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" |
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| 10:16.52 | babilen | aguitel: It might not be supported (that is if nvidia does not provide a -173 version of the driver that is compatible with Xorg 1.11) -- I am, however, quite sure that nouveau will be in a usable state. I am really not involved in nvidia driver development and/or NVIDIA's strategic decisions, so I can't give you a definite answer. |
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| 10:18.42 | bs0d | babilen the main difference between my actions and the proposed ones is that I installed not linux-headers-2.6-amd64, but 2.6.32-5-amd64 is there a big difference? I have 2.6.32-5 kenel and thats why choosed appropriate version |
| 10:18.50 | ryannathans | babilen: i still can't get it working |
| 10:18.55 | babilen | ryannathans: "zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz" should do the trick -- I really have to run now. If you find wpa-supplicant in managed/roaming mode is too complicated to setup you might want to look into frontends such as network-manager or wicd. It might also be that your assumptions that your wireless adaptor has been configured correctly is wrong and that you need, for example, some firmware to get it running. |
| 10:19.08 | aguitel | babilen, ok |
| 10:19.14 | Mogget | babilen: I work in Switzerland and use Norwegian setup, so i want to be able to switch to us setup in one button press whenever colleagues use my computer |
| 10:19.15 | ryannathans | thanks |
| 10:19.32 | babilen | ryannathans: I have to run now -- See you later! |
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| 10:19.39 | ryannathans | bye |
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| 10:20.39 | babilen | Mogget: That should™ be supported by LXDE -- I don't use it and can't walk you through the steps, but it shouldn't be that hard. If you can't figure out how to configure this within LXDE and if nobody here knows you can ask #lxde -- Good luck! |
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| 10:21.52 | bs0d | hmm so all that I need is to add apropriate section to X config .. why create /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf and not edit ordinary xorg.conf config? |
| 10:23.54 | babilen | bs0d: Yes - A complete xorg.conf is rarely needed nowadays. (/msg dpkg empty xorg.conf) -- I would strongly recommend to let Xorg configure automatically what it gets right and only override certain things with device specific sections/stanzas in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/NN-????.conf (/msg dpkg xorg.conf.d) |
| 10:24.14 | Mogget | babilen: i edited the xml file for mapping keys in ~/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml and logged out/in and i have a working temporary solution. |
| 10:24.42 | babilen | Mogget: There needs to be a better solutions :) |
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| 10:26.27 | ryannathans | I can't get wicd working |
| 10:27.02 | bs0d | I go for restart .. hope I have made everything correctly |
| 10:27.11 | bs0d | See you guys |
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| 10:27.20 | ryannathans | i go - sudo modprobe ath9k && sudo wicd && sudo wicd-client |
| 10:27.29 | ryannathans | wicd says bad password but i know it's correct |
| 10:27.45 | ryannathans | in ifconfig TX bytes is 0 |
| 10:27.54 | ryannathans | RX is 1000+ |
| 10:27.56 | ryannathans | odd |
| 10:28.08 | babilen | Mogget: Ah, according to http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Change_keyboard_layouts LXDE lets Xorg manage it. I would go the "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" route and configure *multiple* keymaps in /etc/default/keyboard -- You can, for example, use 'XKBLAYOUT="no,de"\nXKBVARIANT="norwegian-standard,switzerduitsch"' (with correct values for the layouts/variants in question) in /etc/default/keyboard and use Xorg's switch functionality (IIRC ... |
| 10:28.14 | babilen | ... ALT-SHIFT by default) |
| 10:28.33 | babilen | Mogget: I should stress that that example is only an example and will *not* work |
| 10:29.00 | fredddd | When I have installed a package through dpkg -i, how can I remove it afterwards from my system? |
| 10:29.14 | Mogget | babilen: thanks. I'll have a look at it. |
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| 10:31.11 | babilen | fredddd: As you would remove every other package too (apt-get remove/purge, aptitude remove/purge, dpkg --remove/--purge, ...) |
| 10:32.01 | bs0d | Hello again guys. Seems that everything is working fine .. and glxinfo | grep render tells me OpenGL renderer string GeForce 8800 GT/PCI/SSE2 .. does it tell me that driver has correctly installed? How can I check that everything is gone correctly and 3D acceleration is available as well? |
| 10:32.07 | ryannathans | can someone help me get wifi working? |
| 10:32.16 | babilen | bs0d: Looks fine |
| 10:32.23 | babilen | Ok, see you all later |
| 10:32.45 | loop- | what youre referring to ryannathans is a known bug in wicd |
| 10:33.07 | loop- | is your eth0 timing out as well? |
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| 10:34.32 | ryannathans | loop-: no |
| 10:34.42 | TJunction | bs0d, did you play game? glx_gears is it that should run accelerated |
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| 10:34.47 | loop- | in your logs i mean |
| 10:34.48 | ryannathans | loop-: i tried getting wifi working manually, i can't |
| 10:34.56 | ryannathans | loop-: which logs? |
| 10:35.01 | loop- | rsyslog |
| 10:35.07 | loop- | what is dmesg saying |
| 10:35.33 | loop- | i would think youre getting something like 1,2,3 attempt - timeout |
| 10:35.38 | loop- | wlan not ready etc |
| 10:35.43 | ryannathans | no |
| 10:35.46 | ryannathans | no timeouts at all |
| 10:35.53 | loop- | no attempts? |
| 10:36.18 | ryannathans | wlan0, deauthing from my router - reason 3\ |
| 10:36.26 | loop- | yup thats the one |
| 10:36.57 | ryannathans | the reason i am trying debian and trying to get network working is because of this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885 |
| 10:37.02 | ryannathans | do you think it's the same bug? |
| 10:37.12 | loop- | is networkmanager still installed |
| 10:37.28 | ryannathans | yes, not running though |
| 10:37.34 | ryannathans | well, i never installed it |
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| 10:37.41 | ryannathans | no wait |
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| 10:37.44 | ryannathans | it's installed, not running |
| 10:37.50 | loop- | is nm-applet running |
| 10:38.06 | loop- | and which encryption are you using |
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| 10:38.44 | ryannathans | loop-: i am sure all my settings are correct |
| 10:38.54 | ryannathans | i'm using wpa2 |
| 10:38.55 | ryannathans | aes |
| 10:38.56 | loop- | that wasnt what i was asking |
| 10:39.03 | ryannathans | pdk |
| 10:39.06 | ryannathans | psk |
| 10:39.07 | lokikp | sensord and i2c-tools are needed for lm-sensors?? |
| 10:39.10 | ryannathans | nm-applet is not running |
| 10:39.11 | loop- | debian works fine out of the box with wireless via standard commands |
| 10:39.18 | ryannathans | which commands? |
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| 10:39.29 | loop- | ifconfig, iwconfig |
| 10:39.37 | loop- | dhclient, pump etc |
| 10:39.39 | ryannathans | i can't work out what commands |
| 10:39.47 | ryannathans | i tried manually for days |
| 10:39.49 | loop- | route |
| 10:40.00 | ryannathans | for wpa2? |
| 10:40.04 | loop- | its a little bumpy but it definitely works |
| 10:40.10 | loop- | yea |
| 10:40.17 | ryannathans | is there a guide? |
| 10:40.25 | ryannathans | I've been through 12 guides in the last day |
| 10:40.26 | ryannathans | none work |
| 10:40.29 | loop- | do you have wpa_supplicant installed |
| 10:40.31 | ryannathans | yes |
| 10:40.35 | ryannathans | i can't get it to work though |
| 10:40.41 | loop- | yea its definitely a bug |
| 10:40.49 | loop- | youre stuck in the same spot i am lol |
| 10:41.05 | loop- | because simply removing the packages doesnt resolve the issue |
| 10:41.17 | loop- | theres no goin home |
| 10:41.18 | ryannathans | note the second last comment on that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885 related? |
| 10:42.02 | loop- | someone was saying if they added mode=1 to the wicd templates it would resolve the issue |
| 10:42.12 | loop- | but i didnt see any resolution there |
| 10:42.25 | ryannathans | All I want is working wifi |
| 10:42.29 | ryannathans | how can i do this manually |
| 10:42.55 | loop- | golf club and some tinfoil. what kind of answer are you looking for exactly |
| 10:43.17 | loop- | networkmanager and wicd are both buggy at best |
| 10:43.20 | ryannathans | I want to use terminal, no network manager or wicd, to get my wifi to work, wpa2 style |
| 10:43.42 | ryannathans | also, why aren't we on kernel 3.x |
| 10:43.44 | loop- | try uninstalling all of the packages and use shell then |
| 10:43.54 | loop- | oh i wouldnt ask these guys that... |
| 10:44.17 | loop- | i was about to update the kernel to see if that resolves it |
| 10:44.30 | loop- | i have a strong inclination it will |
| 10:44.47 | loop- | are you getting kernel header errors as well |
| 10:45.26 | ryannathans | I can't work out how, I put all the details in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf but I can't get it to work sudo sudo wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -Dwext -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 10:45.31 | bs0d | loop sorry for askinig .. I have just installed a fresh copy of Debian ( 6.0.3 I believe, stable one ) and kernel 2.6.32-5 .. is it out of date and needs upgrading as well or not? |
| 10:45.33 | ryannathans | header errors? |
| 10:45.36 | ryannathans | no? |
| 10:45.46 | ryannathans | i can't get it working on ubuntu 11.10 either |
| 10:46.04 | loop- | its definitely the software |
| 10:46.16 | loop- | i mean wicd and network manager |
| 10:46.47 | loop- | did you try running ubuntu off of a live cd |
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| 10:46.50 | ryannathans | i can't get past my bug in fedora either |
| 10:46.52 | ryannathans | yes |
| 10:47.00 | ryannathans | my 11.10 is local install too |
| 10:47.05 | loop- | and wicd still doesnt work |
| 10:47.15 | ryannathans | haven't tried wicd there |
| 10:47.16 | loop- | did you install the correct drivers for your card |
| 10:47.21 | loop- | try that |
| 10:47.24 | ryannathans | ath9k comes by default |
| 10:47.48 | loop- | even when i can get a signal with wicd now it limits my connection speeds to almost nil |
| 10:47.55 | loop- | 20Kbs max |
| 10:48.22 | loop- | its not applying proper power settings |
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| 10:49.31 | loop- | go into preferences in wicd |
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| 10:49.45 | loop- | and then external programs |
| 10:49.56 | loop- | what are you choices |
| 10:50.21 | bs0d | Guys, I have a .deb package that I need to install, how can I get to know whether it needs some dependencies to be installed beforehand or not? |
| 10:50.27 | ryannathans | dchclient only there |
| 10:50.34 | loop- | and below that |
| 10:50.34 | ryannathans | only mii |
| 10:50.46 | ryannathans | ip/route |
| 10:50.49 | loop- | what about ip and route |
| 10:50.51 | loop- | right |
| 10:50.55 | loop- | is that on auto |
| 10:50.55 | ryannathans | gksudo |
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| 10:51.04 | loop- | is ip and route on auto |
| 10:51.05 | ryannathans | yes |
| 10:51.08 | ryannathans | yes |
| 10:51.09 | loop- | try using route |
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| 10:51.43 | loop- | also |
| 10:51.56 | loop- | go to your wireless connection and select properties |
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| 10:52.13 | loop- | is the box labeled hostname checked? |
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| 10:52.37 | ryannathans | no |
| 10:52.40 | ryannathans | should it be |
| 10:52.41 | loop- | check that |
| 10:52.53 | loop- | now try grabbing |
| 10:53.03 | ryannathans | bad password |
| 10:53.10 | ryannathans | it's not wrong i swear. |
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| 10:53.15 | loop- | try restarting X |
| 10:53.24 | ryannathans | how? |
| 10:53.34 | loop- | logout |
| 10:54.24 | loop- | no need to swear this isnt confession lol |
| 10:54.55 | r4co0n | I just wanted to install iceweasel from mozilla.debian.net. I first installed the pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring that is supplied there, but I get 2 wrong signatures, though http://mozilla.debian.net/ says it should only be one. And apt is still complaining about untrusted packages. Am I doing it wrong or is this a bug? |
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| 10:55.05 | r4co0n | running squeeze |
| 10:55.24 | ryannathans | loop-: still not working |
| 10:55.31 | ryannathans | nm-applet doens't work either |
| 10:55.36 | ryannathans | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.39 | loop- | is nm-applet running |
| 10:55.45 | ryannathans | wicd isn't |
| 10:55.48 | ryannathans | nm is now |
| 10:55.52 | ryannathans | i'm trying nm |
| 10:55.56 | ryannathans | it's not working |
| 10:55.57 | loop- | thats your first problem |
| 10:56.05 | loop- | you need to remove network manager |
| 10:56.31 | hivemind | How to install Epson TX219 MFP on debian? I'm downloaded ppd's and installed via cupsserver on browser. But i don't see a tx219 driver and using a tx210 driver. now printer is printing only white spaces. and only root can print. |
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| 10:57.36 | ryannathans | lolwtf it connected |
| 10:57.39 | ryannathans | thanks |
| 10:57.40 | bs0d | is anyone using Skype on a 64-bit system??? |
| 10:57.47 | ryannathans | now to see if the mac address bug exists |
| 10:58.05 | loop- | you are welcome |
| 10:58.11 | genius` | Hello everybody |
| 10:58.18 | bs0d | Hello genius |
| 10:58.40 | loop- | could you test your download speed for me ryannathans |
| 10:59.04 | loop- | youre using an atheros wifi card you said correct |
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| 11:00.19 | ryannathans | WOOT |
| 11:00.24 | ryannathans | loop-: sure |
| 11:00.33 | ryannathans | loop-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885 doesn't exist in wicd |
| 11:00.36 | ryannathans | parties |
| 11:00.47 | ryannathans | now to try 3.x |
| 11:00.48 | ryannathans | mwahahha |
| 11:00.51 | loop- | thats amazing |
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| 11:01.10 | loop- | feel free to send me a million dollars |
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| 11:01.33 | bs0d | Can anybody explain me this: You will have to re-download the package, each time there's a security update? Is there any go-around way? Is will be a pain in ass if to follow this |
| 11:02.01 | ryannathans | loop-: 500kb/s my normal download speed |
| 11:02.02 | ryannathans | ath9k |
| 11:02.11 | loop- | download something |
| 11:02.15 | ryannathans | i did |
| 11:02.18 | ryannathans | 100mb of it |
| 11:02.18 | loop- | whats your rate |
| 11:02.27 | loop- | ok thank you |
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| 11:05.32 | ryannathans | brb, food |
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| 11:07.12 | richardcavell | How many ARM ports of Debian are there? |
| 11:07.26 | richardcavell | I'm aware that there was an ABI change. How many versions are left? |
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| 11:07.53 | jelly-home | richardcavell: two-ish: armel the only supported one at present, armhf up and coming |
| 11:08.25 | richardcavell | how is armhf different? |
| 11:08.38 | richardcavell | and is armel official and fully functioning, or more experimental? |
| 11:08.40 | jelly-home | richardcavell: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort |
| 11:08.52 | jelly-home | armel is the supported one. |
| 11:09.45 | jelly-home | "arm" is no more |
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| 11:10.45 | richardcavell | ok I see |
| 11:10.54 | richardcavell | the problem is I think that there's no standard ARM platform |
| 11:11.00 | richardcavell | with x86, you're pretty much looking at a PC |
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| 11:11.07 | richardcavell | with ARM, it could be all kinds of things |
| 11:12.22 | tremon | does anyone know how to enable selinux on wheezy kernels? the standard selinux=1 doesn't work... |
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| 11:13.04 | jelly-home | !tell richardcavell -about arm |
| 11:14.01 | jelly-home | that channel might be more appropriate for your query, richardcavell |
| 11:14.25 | richardcavell | you mean #arm? |
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| 11:16.18 | richardcavell | no one in that channel |
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| 11:20.51 | jelly-home | richardcavell: dpkg, the bot, should have sent you a private message. |
| 11:21.28 | richardcavell | yes it did |
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| 11:21.36 | richardcavell | but it didn't mention a channel |
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| 11:23.39 | myself | how is it possible? http://pastebin.com/HCdvV7rK /dev/sdb7 last line |
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| 11:25.58 | nkuttler | !tell myself about localized errors |
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| 11:26.06 | nkuttler | myself: also please define "it" |
| 11:26.17 | overclucker | myself: %100, eh? |
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| 11:27.41 | myself | nkuttler: simple i have free disk space and it say me i've used 100% |
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| 11:28.36 | myself | 235-226 = 9 |
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| 11:29.03 | nkuttler | myself: reserved space for root, make mkfs.ext3 |
| 11:29.36 | myself | no i don't |
| 11:29.50 | nkuttler | you don't what? |
| 11:29.58 | babilen | myself: You "don't" what exactly? It is most likely |
| 11:29.59 | myself | mkfs.ext3 |
| 11:30.19 | babilen | myself: ... reserved space for root. Look into tune2fs if you want to change that. |
| 11:30.37 | nkuttler | maybe he means he doesn't use ext3.. |
| 11:30.39 | nkuttler | !it |
| 11:30.39 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:30.43 | babilen | *shrug* |
| 11:31.04 | myself | :-) language isn't the problem |
| 11:31.19 | nkuttler | myself: yeah, the problem is you don't give us enough useful info |
| 11:31.23 | myself | JUst, it is ext4 |
| 11:31.26 | babilen | I guess that myself (what a nick!) doesn't want to create a new filesystem because that would mean losing data, but wants to change the filesystem options. |
| 11:31.39 | ryannathans | babilen: fixed! |
| 11:31.42 | nkuttler | myself: same thing |
| 11:31.44 | skilz | Why does debian install squid and squid3? |
| 11:31.44 | myself | babilen: you're right |
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| 11:31.52 | babilen | ryannathans: Ah, good to hear! What was needed? |
| 11:32.01 | ryannathans | babilen: wicd |
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| 11:32.20 | babilen | myself: Great, please look into tune2fs |
| 11:32.38 | babilen | ryannathans: Didn't you have problems with wicd shortly before I left? |
| 11:32.47 | ryannathans | yes |
| 11:32.52 | myself | i suppose ext3 don't have root reserved space |
| 11:32.57 | babilen | So, how did you fix it? |
| 11:32.59 | ryannathans | i removed nm-applet and rebooted |
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| 11:33.26 | babilen | Ah -- Yeah, wicd and network-manager don't play nice together. (and why would they?) |
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| 11:34.37 | ryannathans | network manager wasn't even running |
| 11:34.52 | ryannathans | anyways, i have gone back to ubuntu lxde desktop |
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| 11:35.02 | ryannathans | used same wicd and settings |
| 11:35.03 | llutz | myself: "dumpe2fs -h /dev/sdb7|grep Reserved" man mke2fs (about -m and the default-value) |
| 11:35.04 | ryannathans | and it works! |
| 11:35.10 | ryannathans | no mac changing bug either |
| 11:35.13 | babilen | ryannathans: Oh, what was wrong with your Debian installation? |
| 11:35.32 | ryannathans | no wifi |
| 11:35.44 | ryannathans | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885 affects all network managers |
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| 11:35.49 | ryannathans | it needs confirming though |
| 11:35.53 | ryannathans | care to help? |
| 11:36.03 | babilen | ryannathans: So you installed Ubuntu instead of Debian and that fixed it? |
| 11:36.14 | ryannathans | no, i fixed it on debian |
| 11:36.28 | ryannathans | i had no network when i booted with debian |
| 11:36.33 | ryannathans | my ubuntu problem was that bug report |
| 11:36.39 | ryannathans | so i want trying debian to see if it had same issue |
| 11:36.40 | babilen | ryannathans: You confuse me -- What exactly did you mean by "I have gone back to ubuntu lxde desktop" ? |
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| 11:37.56 | ryannathans | 1. my mac spoofing did not work in ubuntu due to what i found out was network manager not connecting after mac change. 2. I tried debian to see if issue still existed, it did. After fixing my no network problem, I found a fix to original problem (no network after mac change) 3. went back to ubuntu and my fix was to use wicd |
| 11:39.33 | babilen | ryannathans: Ok, so you are using Ubuntu now? If that is indeed the case you should ask in #ubuntu for help and not here. |
| 11:39.45 | ryannathans | i have no need for help |
| 11:39.58 | myself | llutz: thanks I was reading man pages :-) |
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| 11:40.18 | ryannathans | the problem was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885 It affects all network managers, i needed to find a way to use wifi and mac spoofing, i did, that fix worked in ubuntu, i'm happy now |
| 11:40.24 | ryannathans | the fix was wicd |
| 11:40.29 | babilen | ack |
| 11:40.35 | loop- | synner |
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| 11:40.57 | ryannathans | it's all loop-'s fault that i fixed it |
| 11:41.13 | loop- | i dont consider it fixed |
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| 11:43.33 | r4co0n | Can someone please verify if the keys provided at http://mozilla.debian.net/ validate (gpg --check-sigs...) as described there, because for me, running squeeze, they dont, I cant check 2 signatures. |
| 11:43.45 | r4co0n | *work |
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| 11:44.18 | ryannathans | loop-: what's not fixed? |
| 11:44.29 | loop- | everything basically |
| 11:44.50 | ryannathans | my problem was no network after mac spoofing, my secondry problem was no network in debian |
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| 11:45.07 | loop- | how are you spoofing via -hw? |
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| 11:45.54 | loop- | or are you just clicking something in ubuntu |
| 11:46.03 | babilen | Be that as it may -- I would suggest to discuss this further in #ubuntu (or not as ryannathans seems to be happy now) |
| 11:46.34 | ryannathans | loop-: wut? I can spoof with macchanger -A wlan0 or ifconfig wlan0 hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:aa |
| 11:46.42 | ryannathans | either works fine |
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| 11:47.01 | loop- | the matrix has you dawg |
| 11:47.09 | ryannathans | whachu talkin bout |
| 11:47.19 | ryannathans | i checked dhcp server logs, it's working fine |
| 11:47.48 | loop- | where would i look in debian to see where desktop errors are occurring |
| 11:48.00 | ryannathans | babilen: this applies to debian |
| 11:48.00 | myself | line 17,41,42 http://pastebin.com/BmVzjWbd no root reserved blocks, just Reserved Block Count is this the case? |
| 11:48.01 | babilen | loop-: ~/.xsession-errors |
| 11:48.53 | loop- | thanks |
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| 11:49.20 | sosofes | loop: have u experienced desktop problems? |
| 11:49.27 | loop- | hell yes |
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| 11:49.41 | loop- | i broke this mofo good and proper |
| 11:49.44 | sosofes | loop: does it freeze? |
| 11:49.52 | loop- | nope X just keeps restarting |
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| 11:50.21 | sosofes | what does "dmesg|tail" say? |
| 11:50.28 | babilen | loop-: You want to take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in that case -- Which GPU/driver do you use? |
| 11:50.45 | sosofes | loop: what does "dmesg|tail" say? |
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| 11:51.54 | loop- | theyre b43legacy debug errors |
| 11:52.21 | loop- | NETDEV_UP eth- link not ready |
| 11:52.27 | sosofes | loop: type "dmesg|tail" in your konsole |
| 11:52.42 | sosofes | loop: we might be abl eto help |
| 11:52.43 | loop- | the desktop erros appear to be linked to HAL |
| 11:52.55 | loop- | in .xsession-errors |
| 11:54.09 | loop- | ive got const errors and stream errors |
| 11:54.22 | loop- | im running gnome and kde side by side |
| 11:54.44 | sosofes | loop: quite often the issue is with bugs in gpu drivers |
| 11:55.06 | sosofes | loop: what does "dmesg|tail" say? |
| 11:55.20 | babilen | loop-: You might want to re-read what I've said earlier and give a more detailed description of your problem. (e.g. Answer questions such as "Does X start at all?") -- Support experience also seems to suggest that pasting relevant logfiles such as the aforementioned /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net provides helpers with indispensible data about your problem. |
| 11:55.53 | babilen | fetches himself some cappuccino |
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| 11:57.08 | loop- | im pretty sure the problems im experiencing are more kde related than debian so i dont ask |
| 11:57.31 | sosofes | loop: are u using squeeze? |
| 11:57.34 | loop- | yes |
| 11:58.30 | myself | llutz: well done, nice trick, I'm amazed how parameters I'll do next time I'll make a fs :-) thanks alot guys |
| 11:59.02 | sosofes | loop:i've experinced desktop errors on tow pcs: hp and ibm plus my del latitude D600 laptop, on all these the desktop gets frozen, i've tried kde, gnome,xfce4,and lxde, only fluxbox is stable |
| 11:59.20 | sosofes | loop: if u try fluxbox, it doesnt get frozen at all |
| 11:59.26 | loop- | that makes me feel better |
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| 12:00.04 | loop- | yea xsessions for kde is reporting org.freedesktop.Hal$ errors |
| 12:00.10 | sosofes | loop: one must file a bug report about this |
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| 12:03.09 | babilen | sosofes: HAL has essentially been deprecated and I wouldn't expect many people to have an interest to invest much time into it. |
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| 12:03.46 | babilen | That being said filing bugs still makes sense and KDE still depends on HAL IIRC |
| 12:04.04 | sosofes1 | babilen: the issue is very annoying, i never experienced such problems with lenny |
| 12:04.19 | babilen | "such problems" ? |
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| 12:04.47 | sosofes1 | babilen: gnome,kde,xfce4,lxde freeze |
| 12:05.03 | sosofes1 | babilen: except fluxbox |
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| 12:06.01 | sosofes1 | babilen: the problem is probably with windwo managers |
| 12:06.29 | babilen | I am not aware that we have been discussing this issue, but well. That very much sounds like a Xorg related issue and is often related to the GPU driver used on the system. |
| 12:06.32 | sosofes1 | *window |
| 12:06.56 | sosofes1 | babilen: but the n fluxbox doesnt get frozen |
| 12:07.25 | sosofes1 | babilen: there might be issues with xorg |
| 12:08.31 | babilen | I would doubt that if all window managers show this behaviour -- I would start to investigate this issue by reading the Xorg log, which might very well contain a stacktrace at the end. A way to consitently reproduce the freeze along with debugging output as detailed on http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/XserverDebugging (+ maybe some valgrind runs) eases triaging the problem/bug as well. |
| 12:09.16 | sosofes1 | babilen: it's disappointing to find squeeze in this state |
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| 12:10.08 | babilen | sosofes1: I can assure you that not many people experience behaviour like that. Which GPU/driver do you use? |
| 12:10.29 | babilen | Ah well, then leave :) |
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| 12:12.34 | sosofes | babilen: dmesg|tail says 14.108629] render error detected, EIR: 0x00000010 |
| 12:12.35 | sosofes | [ 14.108638] [drm:i915_handle_error] *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x00000010, masking |
| 12:12.35 | sosofes | [ 14.108655] render error detected, EIR: 0x00000010 |
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| 12:13.36 | sosofes | babilen: there was never a problem with Debian lenny |
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| 12:19.42 | loop- | anyone have any suggestions for ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP) errors? |
| 12:19.52 | loop- | both interfaces are experiencing them |
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| 12:23.51 | bs0d | Hello again guys. I've got a little problem with my USB connectable headset .. seems like some drivers are missing. Can anybody suggest me where can I look for them? |
| 12:24.24 | petemc | bs0d: run lsusb when they're plugged in |
| 12:24.24 | bs0d | in Windows when I plug that in, drivers were automatically searched and installed ... but here not |
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| 12:25.16 | bs0d | petemc this gives me some kind of list of buses and devices attached to them |
| 12:25.25 | petemc | yes it does |
| 12:25.55 | petemc | you can use the information that program provides to narrow down your search |
| 12:26.28 | bs0d | Oh, I see. Thank you, that will be helpful |
| 12:26.35 | petemc | np |
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| 12:29.00 | bs0d | Offsite sais device does not require additional drivers, as it uses drivers already built in into operating system ... that's Windows related stuff, I think |
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| 12:31.01 | tremon | bs0d, if the device presents itself as a generic usb audio device, it should work under Linux too: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-usb-audio |
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| 12:34.52 | babilen | It might merely not be used as default output device (usb is typically not the default - see /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf) -- I would investigate which index was assigned to the headset (cat /proc/asound/cards) and use aplay/speaker-test to check output for the actual device (if it is *not* default). See "man speaker-test" for details. Pasting the output of "lsusb" certainly makes sense as well. |
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| 12:35.56 | bs0d | I think it does, as I can see it in the sound manager ... a separate equalizer for the headset .. but no music goes through it for some reason .... |
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| 12:36.37 | OldMonk | hi, can you tell me where to find the debian testing i386 torrent? |
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| 12:41.33 | bs0d | the headset seems to be detected by system, but no sound from it |
| 12:41.38 | bs0d | what could be the case? |
| 12:42.00 | OldMonk | alsamixer? |
| 12:42.08 | bluesky | \msg nickserv idenity bluesky_ Albany |
| 12:42.15 | skilz | Hey I installed squid but now I can't access apache 192.168.0.1 anyone it just times out now????? |
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| 12:42.28 | OldMonk | thanks for the password, bluesky |
| 12:42.34 | OldMonk | bluesky: better change that immediately |
| 12:42.47 | bs0d | hmm Im not sure ,, I get a mixer from the System -> Preferences -> Sound menu, the headset is detected there, and volume level is at max, but no sound |
| 12:42.48 | bluesky | How do I change it? |
| 12:42.56 | OldMonk | bluesky: /msg nickserv help |
| 12:43.24 | OldMonk | bs0d: try alsamixer in a console and see if any channels need to be unmuted |
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| 12:43.49 | OldMonk | alsamixer typically shows more channels than the gui mixer |
| 12:44.17 | babilen | bluesky: I would also recommend to use more secure passwords and to *never* do this within a channel. If you used this password *anywhere* else change your passwords there too. |
| 12:44.23 | bs0d | OldMonk I get a strange picture |
| 12:45.00 | bluesky | Ok Thanks |
| 12:45.03 | OldMonk | bs0d: we all do. use <left>, <right> to select channels, M to toggle mute, <up>, <down> to change volume |
| 12:45.38 | bs0d | OldMonk I mean those vertical bars ... no bar at all in the headset column ... only 00 below and no bar above it |
| 12:45.50 | OldMonk | bs0d: so use Up arrow to increase it |
| 12:46.20 | OldMonk | bs0d: unless it shows "MM" at the bottom. if it does, unmute it first (M) |
| 12:46.37 | bs0d | OldMonk I've tried, no result. No bar at all for some reason :\ I can make a screenshot |
| 12:46.37 | tremon | bs0d: if there is no bar, that means it's a toggle. OO means active (unmuted) |
| 12:46.47 | babilen | bs0d: Which index has been assigned? Do you hear something with speaker-test if you configure it to use the headset (as detailed in the manpage)? (also try "-t wav") |
| 12:47.28 | OldMonk | bs0d: also, try a wav file with alsaplayer for testing, not some fancy media player |
| 12:48.31 | bluesky | Thanks Folks: Can I install Debian on Play Station Portable and use it like a computer? |
| 12:48.49 | OldMonk | now someone tell me where to fine a wheezy i386 torrent? |
| 12:48.54 | OldMonk | s/fine/find/ |
| 12:49.23 | babilen | OldMonk: What are you trying to do? |
| 12:49.27 | bs0d | hmm volume control works for the speaker, a popup window appears .. but still no sound :( |
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| 12:50.21 | bs0d | I have run speaker-test, it seems still work .. prints some data out |
| 12:50.36 | bluesky | Hi Can you read what I type now? |
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| 12:50.53 | babilen | Do you *hear* something? Which index has been assigned and do you select the correct device with "-d" ? |
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| 12:51.05 | babilen | bluesky: no |
| 12:51.08 | skilz | Hey I installed squid but now I can't access apache 192.168.0.1 anyone it just times out now????? |
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| 12:51.52 | bs0d | hmm and alsa-mixer volume for the headset it set to maxium .. :( Something strange |
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| 12:52.52 | OldMonk | babilen: er, use bittorrent to download wheezy |
| 12:52.54 | bluesky | Thanks: Is there a way for me to install Debian on Play Station Portable for my neighbor? |
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| 12:55.04 | babilen | OldMonk: Do you want to install wheezy or do you want to test the upcoming installer version? Ok, I guess I just continue to give you all information regardless of your answer. The recommended way (if at all) to install testing it to install a minimal stable system *with the stable installer*. Minimal here means that you install nothing except the standard and, if applicable, the laptop task. Once that has been done you can dist-upgrade to ... |
| 12:55.10 | babilen | ... testing/wheezy as detailed in "/msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy" |
| 12:55.28 | bs0d | I think I dont have ALSA drivers.. alsaconf is not working .. doesn't Debian include ALSA by default? |
| 12:55.37 | OldMonk | babilen: i want to cut a wheezy cd/dvd |
| 12:55.51 | OldMonk | bs0d: your speakers don't work either? |
| 12:56.06 | OldMonk | babilen: i need an image |
| 12:56.29 | babilen | OldMonk: You can also use the stable installer to install testing, but I wouldn't recommend that. We also make installation images with the development version of the Debian installer available at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ but these are meant for testing the installer and not for installing testing/sid. |
| 12:56.50 | bs0d | OldMonk speakers work fine, problem is only with the headset. And btw speakers are also connected via USB |
| 12:57.01 | OldMonk | bs0d: then your also is working |
| 12:57.09 | OldMonk | er, your alsa is working |
| 12:57.20 | babilen | OldMonk: I like to add that we had numerous reports of problems when people use the devel version of the installer (most were related to grub, but also some package installation problems) |
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| 12:57.42 | OldMonk | babilen: still doesn't answer my question about getting a cd/dvd image of squeeze |
| 12:57.44 | babilen | bs0d: See my question above |
| 12:57.50 | bs0d | maybe I should configure somewhere sound options, that when the headset is plugged in, let the stream through it |
| 12:57.56 | tremon | OldMonk: there is none |
| 12:58.01 | OldMonk | thanks |
| 12:58.42 | babilen | OldMonk: You said wheezy - Squeeze bittorrent images can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ |
| 12:59.07 | OldMonk | er fsck, i meant wheezy. names are confusing |
| 12:59.31 | tremon | oldmonk: glad you meant wheezy :) |
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| 12:59.36 | babilen | OldMonk: There are no torrents, but *please* note my comments earlier. |
| 12:59.50 | bs0d | babilen I didn't quite understand your question.. what index are you talking about? |
| 13:00.09 | OldMonk | what happens if i use jigdo to make an image, will that bring in the stable or the testing installer? |
| 13:00.24 | bs0d | babilen .. got it .. 0 MB sound card and 1 USB Audio |
| 13:00.39 | babilen | bs0d: I referred to that earlier when I mentioned the "cat /proc/asound/cards" command. Please also read "man speaker-test" and ensure that it uses the correct device. |
| 13:00.45 | thewanderer1 | anyone else seeing IPv6 problems with ftp.pl.debian.org repository? |
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| 13:01.48 | babilen | OldMonk: You can get .jigdo files for both -- You might be interested in "/msg dpkg custom cd". I am not very well versed in the creation of custom images and I would refer you to more appropriate channels. |
| 13:02.02 | Dagger3 | thewanderer1: seems to be functioning for me |
| 13:02.15 | OldMonk | babilen: more appropriate channels being? |
| 13:02.27 | thewanderer1 | Dagger3, 2001:4070:1::fafb ? |
| 13:02.41 | Dagger3 | thewanderer1: indeed |
| 13:03.09 | thewanderer1 | hmm, now that's interesting, it stops at some ATMAN node... |
| 13:03.22 | thewanderer1 | I'm connected via a HE.net tunnel |
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| 13:03.29 | babilen | OldMonk: Search in progress (I *always* forget that one) -- If you want to help, see http://wiki.debian.org/IRC -- I seem to remember something like -simple-cd or so .. |
| 13:03.37 | bs0d | babilen I read debianhelp, USB-audio should have index 1, so this is correct. But still, when the headset is plugged in, audio stream is sent to device 0 for some reason |
| 13:03.45 | bs0d | can it be changed? |
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| 13:04.12 | trist4n | do you guys follow any linux/debian related twitter feeds |
| 13:04.39 | tremon | bs0d: /etc/asound.conf or .asoundrc |
| 13:04.53 | babilen | bs0d: That is normal behaviour for a couple of programs -- What I am trying to do right now is to check if the device works at all. Running speaker-test and telling it which device to use (-d option) will achieve that. Configuration of other programs is the next step, so lets not rush this. |
| 13:05.07 | thewanderer1 | Dagger3, are you on HE.net too? |
| 13:05.46 | babilen | OldMonk: Ah, it is #debian-custom on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) |
| 13:07.06 | OldMonk | thanks babilen |
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| 13:07.44 | babilen | bs0d: tremon is indeed correct in that a suitable /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc is appropriate if you use ALSA -- A few systems use Pulseaudio on top of ALSA however and you can select the output device in pavucontrol (install that) if you, indeed, use PA |
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| 13:09.02 | bs0d | babilen sorry for stupid questions, I am not a very experienced linux user .. how can I specify the device for speaker test? dmesg returned a long string in form of /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:ld.1/ and so on .. I have tried it, but I got Unknown PCM Device error |
| 13:10.31 | tremon | bs0d: aplay -L will give you the currently known PCM outputs, aplay -l will list your hardware |
| 13:10.37 | Dagger3 | thewanderer1: no, I'm using 6to4. it doesn't go via atman.pl for me |
| 13:10.53 | thewanderer1 | Dagger3, ok, thanks |
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| 13:11.29 | Dagger3 | thewanderer1: traceroutes from http://lg.he.net agree with you though; they die at ATMAN |
| 13:11.32 | babilen | bs0d: Ah, if you read "man speaker-test" it explains in the second paragraph that you can use "aplay -L" to list recognised devices. What you are after in that list are the actual names listed last. And I erroneusly referred to "-d" wheares the option to configure the device is actually "-D". Sorry about that. You could paste the "aplay -L" output to http://paste.debian.net if you are unsure how to proceed. |
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| 13:12.12 | thewanderer1 | Dagger3, oh well, IPv6 is going to be a bumpy ride it seems :P |
| 13:13.09 | babilen | bs0d: I'll have lunch now. Good luck and see you later! |
| 13:13.10 | bs0d | babilen there are several entries for the headset and it confuses me. Which one to choose? http://paste.debian.net/153322/ |
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| 13:13.49 | Dagger3 | thewanderer1: these sorts of bumps are hardly unique to v6 :p |
| 13:14.14 | hell | does somebody has debian over nfs with aufs setup? |
| 13:14.37 | hell | i try to do it with http://www.mail-archive.com/aufs-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg01168.html with no success( |
| 13:14.38 | babilen | bs0d: "-Dfront:CARD=Headset" |
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| 13:15.13 | hell | got an nuking initramfs contents error on boot |
| 13:15.34 | babilen | bs0d: Or just try them all ;) Have to run, see you! |
| 13:15.41 | bs0d | babilen yes, I can hear some noise coming from there. Have a good lunch. I'll try to compose the asound config and read manpages by now .. no asound config by default :) |
| 13:16.16 | babilen | bs0d: Ok, if you also give the "-t wav" option you should hear something like "Speaker left" or so .. |
| 13:17.17 | babilen | bs0d: Please check if you use pulseaudio first -- If you do play with pavucontrol. I am by no means a pulseaudio wizard, but the approach is a bit different than the one for pure ALSA. Yeah, I'll enjoy it and bye bye :) |
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| 13:17.51 | radio23 | babilen: I'm not sure if you remember had I the strangest issue where my Japanese true type font was wiped out from the directory the other day? I understand if you don't remember, you help a lot of folks. |
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| 13:18.18 | radio23 | Oh you have to go, bugger, sorry :D |
| 13:18.33 | babilen | radio23: I do recall your issue, but you have to wait a little ;) |
| 13:18.37 | radio23 | babilen: Catch you later, I found out something interesting wanted to share with you. |
| 13:18.53 | babilen | radio23: Please share (/msg me if appropriate) |
| 13:19.00 | radio23 | babilen: Thank you. Will do, mate. |
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| 13:32.24 | skilz | Hey I installed squid but now I can't access apache 192.168.0.1 anyone it just times out now????? |
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| 13:33.16 | skilz | y server is 192.168.0.1 running apache and squid, I just installed squid now I can't access http://192.168.0.1 it just times out unless I disable the proxy in my browser, do I have to edit something? |
| 13:33.49 | petemc | sounds like you need to configure squid |
| 13:34.00 | skilz | Yeah but what part? |
| 13:34.04 | skilz | All other sites work |
| 13:34.11 | skilz | just not the server |
| 13:34.20 | skilz | which is running squid and apache |
| 13:35.07 | innociv | Erm. How come if I nano /etc/php5/cli/php.ini it's empty? I have a default /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini but none for php cli. |
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| 13:56.29 | jelly-home | bs0d: if pulseaudio is active, use pavucontrol tool |
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| 14:05.39 | bs0d | jetty-home is it possible to make using ALSA only? pulseaudio is too complicated software for beginner |
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| 14:07.04 | skilz | How do I configure mailserver? |
| 14:07.16 | babilen | bs0d: I'd like to note that if you use PA you should create /etc/asound.conf with content like http://paste.debian.net/153332/ (which sets PA as default device) -- That should enable you to configure the real device within pavucontrol and should also take care of sound problems with flash. |
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| 14:07.47 | babilen | skilz: Debian comes with exim4 by default and you can configure it (for simple configurations) by running "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" |
| 14:08.05 | afidegnum | hello, pls how do I use ssh to connect to a remote server ? |
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| 14:08.13 | bs0d | babilen is it possible to achieve same result just using ALSA or pulseaudio is needed? |
| 14:08.22 | babilen | skilz: Please also read /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.Debian.gz for further details on exim4 in Debian. |
| 14:08.31 | skilz | babilen, what happens if I diable exim4 on system boot? |
| 14:08.36 | skilz | disable |
| 14:08.40 | afidegnum | ? |
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| 14:08.53 | skilz | afidegnum, man ssh |
| 14:09.08 | bs0d | afigegnum ssh login@[server IP or domain name], it will ask for password |
| 14:09.09 | skilz | ssh user@host |
| 14:09.12 | uplip | skilz: why are asking in at least 2 channels the same question? you are creating traffic without reason |
| 14:09.18 | afidegnum | ok |
| 14:10.03 | babilen | bs0d: I do not own a USB headset, so I would have to research the actual configuration needed (how to write a suitable asound.conf) -- The problem is that you just don't want to set the headset as default device as this will cause problems as soon as you don't want to use it. I would try PA and investigate the plain ALSA route if it turns out that PA is not working. |
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| 14:10.13 | skilz | uplip, Maximum effect! |
| 14:10.29 | skilz | babilen, what happens if I diable exim4 on system boot? |
| 14:10.47 | babilen | skilz: Why do you want to disable it? You obviously can't use it if it is disabled, so I don't quite see the point of your question. What are you trying to achieve? |
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| 14:11.06 | skilz | faster system boot |
| 14:11.19 | skilz | I dont really use mail |
| 14:11.19 | babilen | !tell skilz -about cross post |
| 14:11.21 | skilz | system mail |
| 14:11.27 | babilen | !tell skilz -about why a mta |
| 14:11.41 | skilz | Is my system gonna panic without a mta? |
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| 14:12.50 | babilen | skilz: And starting exim4 will not really not significantly speed up the boot time. How often do you reboot and what constraints do you have for the boot time? (e.g. Do your box needs to boot within ? s in order to meet certain requirements? ...) |
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| 14:14.09 | skilz | No, it's just really slow booting |
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| 14:16.29 | unop | Is there a way to get apps display on a particular head in a Xorg dual-head setup? In particular, things like osd_cat and notification daemon .. both these seem to display notices on a different head to everything else -- and I often miss them. |
| 14:16.52 | babilen | skilz: Ok, are you using parallel boot/inssrv already (check /etc/init.d/rc for CONCURRENCY) ? Ah well, just read http://wiki.debian.org/BootProcessSpeedup -- But how much of a problem does this really pose? How often do you reboot? Which version of Debian do you use? Would it be possible to suspend the system rather than rebooting it be acceptable? ... ... ... |
| 14:16.55 | tata | home@debian:~$......what now? how to run this??? |
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| 14:18.38 | ksuhku | tata, what did you install my dear? |
| 14:18.54 | babilen | skilz: If you are using squeeze you do not have to worry about inssrv and concurrent booting as this is the default anyway btw |
| 14:19.08 | tata | older debian on old pc |
| 14:19.49 | ksuhku | tata, is it some minimal install? |
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| 14:20.51 | tata | yes |
| 14:21.06 | ksuhku | tata, please cat /etc/issue |
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| 14:21.09 | tata | about 500Mb |
| 14:21.20 | babilen | tata: Run what exactly? |
| 14:22.15 | tata | os, this 1. run and nothing |
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| 14:23.07 | ksuhku | tata, that's exactly how minimal install is supposed to look |
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| 14:25.00 | tr|nn| | hi -- is the apache2 package for squeeze compiled with enable-pcntl ? |
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| 14:31.18 | thewanderer1 | tr|nn|, are you sure this is about Apache, not about PHP? |
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| 14:37.19 | Flynn | Hello. |
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| 14:38.50 | Flynn | I am having trouble with an issue for upgrading from squeeze to testing. |
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| 14:39.23 | Flynn | I get a black screen when upgrading on my desktop, using the same process I used on my netbook. |
| 14:39.36 | Flynn | I'm upgrading from gnome 2 to gnome 3 in the process, so I think that might be part of the problem. |
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| 14:45.17 | Delf | something very strange is going on. The clients behind the machine are able to use DNS but not the server itself. I've tried restarting bind9 and the whole machine. No luck. |
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| 14:46.20 | Delf | bind0 doesn't show a error during /etc/init.d/bind9 restart |
| 14:46.27 | skilz | Restarting Squid HTTP proxy: squid2012/01/24 01:44:41| aclParseIpData: WARNING: Netmask masks away part of the specified IP in '192.168.0.0/6' |
| 14:48.36 | babilen | tr|nn|: Moin -- Hang on |
| 14:49.02 | EmoSpice | I'm attempting to get xdm working well with my current setup. I've gotten it installed and it's starting on boot, but my zprofile is (obviously) not being called. I've made changes to /etc/profile (which I've read should be the file sourced/read by xdm), but nothing seems to be changing. |
| 14:50.15 | EmoSpice | Is there a different file I should be editing? Or would it just be easier to try and get .zshrc to make the changes conditionally? |
| 14:50.17 | horzuh | I'm running into a problem with OracleDB/Debian, and I think it's a debian issue: Oracle is insisting my total available shared memory is 1984, and I've tried changing my shmall, but it stays at that value. Any thoughts? |
| 14:50.53 | EmoSpice | horzuh: how much memory do you have installed? |
| 14:51.06 | horzuh | Emo: 4GB |
| 14:51.47 | horzuh | at the moment, according to top, I have 3175064k free |
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| 14:52.31 | ernini | anyone here in control of http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/ ? |
| 14:52.39 | EmoSpice | Right. I seem to remember some issues with programs accessing more than 2GB of memory on the stack at any point - which may be the root of the problem. (I could just as well be wrong :P) |
| 14:52.50 | ernini | it seems that the kernel change to 3.2 didn't make it to the build scripts |
| 14:52.59 | ernini | for 3 days there is no daily image created |
| 14:53.15 | ernini | anyone who i could contact? to fix it |
| 14:53.22 | EmoSpice | be right back. Rebooting. |
| 14:53.24 | horzuh | EmoSpice: I'm using 64 bit, so I would hope I'm around that. |
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| 14:53.50 | babilen | tr|nn|: I assume that you are referring to PHP and you can find details in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=627941 -- This bug has been fixed in php5/5.3.6-12 which is *not* in squeeze, but in the wheezy/sid versions of PHP. |
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| 14:54.27 | Delf | Anyone, please. Home come the host machine cannot resolve dns to ip but the machines beind it can? |
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| 14:55.07 | babilen | tr|nn|: You might recall that I am not particularly fond of PHP and I therefore can't tell you how easy it is to backport PHP from sid to squeeze. If this feature is important for you it might be worth a try, but note that you also have to recompile all reverse dependencies against the backported PHP. |
| 14:55.14 | tremon | Delf: compare /etc/resolv.conf between the machines |
| 14:55.28 | Delf | tremon: Will do, thanks! |
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| 14:56.16 | Delf | tremon: They are correct. |
| 14:56.22 | babilen | tr|nn|: Instructions for simple backports from sid can be found in "/msg dpkg ssb" and all build-dependencies for php5 are satisfied in squeeze/squeeze-backports (/msg dpkg bdo) |
| 14:56.24 | Delf | goes nuts |
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| 14:57.10 | Delf | The "host machine" is the NAT yet it cannot resolve dns to ip but the clients behind it can..? |
| 14:57.13 | xingu | horzuh: have you also set shmmax? |
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| 14:58.03 | tremon | Delf: does nslookup work on the NAT machine? also, check the hosts line in /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 15:00.04 | horzuh | xingu: Yes |
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| 15:00.59 | xingu | horzuh: how about the SGA_MAX_SIZE in the init.ora file? |
| 15:01.01 | Delf | tremon: I'm not familiar with "nslookup". |
| 15:01.11 | thewanderer1 | babilen, actually, pcntl works for me on Squeeze in PHP, this is somewhat strange O.o |
| 15:01.19 | horzuh | Not yet |
| 15:01.44 | horzuh | xingu: I don't have that file in my installation directory |
| 15:02.12 | tremon | Delf: nslookup <hostname> |
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| 15:02.43 | Delf | tremon: Doesn't work. |
| 15:02.50 | babilen | thewanderer1: Well, I am merely aware of the aforementioned bug report and do not have any PHP knowledge. I trust you on this, but am not sure what the bug (and tr|nn|'s question) is about. |
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| 15:03.25 | bs0d | After I have uninstalled PulseAudio, no sound at all, even from speakers :( |
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| 15:03.41 | marceloa | how to see from what repository a package was installed ? |
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| 15:03.54 | tremon | Delf: well, do you get an error message? |
| 15:04.05 | Delf | tremon: Yes, 1 second. |
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| 15:04.19 | babilen | marceloa: You can't (at least not for everything) -- What are you really trying to do? |
| 15:04.38 | marceloa | babilen: what I just said |
| 15:05.05 | babilen | marceloa: What will you use this information for? |
| 15:05.23 | Delf | tremon: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 15:05.50 | tremon | ok, can you ping the servers in /etc/resolv.conf? |
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| 15:07.55 | xingu | horzuh: from memory (it's been a while) it's $ORACLE_HOME/dbs and called init<SID>.ora |
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| 15:08.10 | dpiwowarski | hi |
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| 15:08.45 | horzuh | xingu: It's not installed yet, I have no $ORACLE_HOME |
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| 15:09.48 | xingu | horzuh: aah, this is an installer error; can you pastebin "sysctl -a | grep kernel.shm" for me? |
| 15:09.54 | babilen | marceloa: Hmm? |
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| 15:10.12 | dpiwowarski | I'm using Debian 6.0.3. I want to disable root login to ssh. I have added 'PermitRootLogin no' to /etc/ssh/ssh_config but doesn't work. I still can login as root. |
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| 15:10.30 | ernini | dpiwowarski: restart sshd |
| 15:10.32 | llutz | sshd_config |
| 15:10.33 | koeien | dpiwowarski: did you restart sshd? |
| 15:10.34 | ernini | ow |
| 15:10.35 | ernini | sshd_config yeh |
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| 15:10.41 | horzuh | xingu: yes, hold on |
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| 15:11.08 | ernini | who is in charge of the daily mirror @ d-i.debian.org ? |
| 15:11.16 | DelTree | dpiwowarski: PAM is guilty for that... |
| 15:11.27 | innociv | ... wtf "/etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 19" when I try to sudo nano /etc/sudoers |
| 15:11.34 | innociv | Hwo do I fix the parse error when I can't open it?! |
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| 15:11.41 | simonlnu | don't edit sudoers with nano |
| 15:11.46 | innociv | :\ |
| 15:11.48 | dpiwowarski | I restarted sshd |
| 15:11.48 | innociv | What do I do? |
| 15:11.52 | koeien | innociv: use visudo. |
| 15:12.04 | DelTree | EDITOR=nano visudo |
| 15:12.08 | llutz | dpiwowarski: sshd_config is the file to change, not ssh_config |
| 15:12.08 | babilen | ernini: Why? |
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| 15:12.14 | Delf | tremon: Yes, I can ping any ip#. |
| 15:12.18 | ernini | babilen: its not building for the last 3 days |
| 15:12.19 | horzuh | I edit sudoers with nano LIKE A BAUS. |
| 15:12.21 | innociv | Same error |
| 15:12.22 | dpiwowarski | llutz: thank you... |
| 15:12.32 | ernini | babilen: cant netinstall testing/unstable anymore.. |
| 15:12.37 | horzuh | xingu: http://pastebin.com/V6uEpZMb |
| 15:12.39 | simonlnu | duh, same error. you gotta fix it now |
| 15:13.01 | ernini | babilen: prolly because of the change to 3.2 kernel since i see alot of errors about the 3.1* modules it cannot add |
| 15:13.08 | tremon | innociv: you can't. You need to login as root or boot to single-user to fix /etc/sudoers. Use visudo, sudoedit or sudo -e the next time... |
| 15:13.15 | innociv | "sudo visudo /etc/sudoers" ">>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 19 <<<" |
| 15:13.15 | innociv | Oh |
| 15:13.43 | babilen | ernini: The devel d-i is not meant for installing testing/unstable anyway -- You can probably grab a weekly, but the recommended way is to install a minimal (well with standard task) squeeze system using the *stable* installer and take it from there. You can also try to install testing/unstable using the stable installer, but I would recommend the former approach. |
| 15:13.49 | innociv | How do I log in as root again? :\ |
| 15:13.50 | dhunter | innociv: use visudo, that will use the default editor, use update-alternatives to set your favorite |
| 15:13.53 | koeien | innociv: su - |
| 15:14.08 | babilen | ernini: The devel d-i is meant for testing the installer not for installing testing. |
| 15:14.13 | dhunter | innociv: not sudo visudo /etc/sudoers, just sudo visudo |
| 15:14.16 | ernini | babilen: i know |
| 15:14.25 | innociv | Same error |
| 15:14.36 | tr|nn| | babilen, thewanderer1, excuse me, had a phone call and been afk. Let me read your responses. |
| 15:14.38 | tremon | delf: sorry, out of options then... network appears functional, and if nslookup doesn't work then something might be blocking port 53 |
| 15:14.48 | horzuh | I always end up installing debian with debootstrap (or whatever it's called) |
| 15:14.48 | ernini | babilen: but i want to report it, so it gets fixed early, we are always installing testing for production |
| 15:14.50 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/C72LzMd6 |
| 15:14.58 | horzuh | xingu: thoughts? |
| 15:15.02 | koeien | innociv: right. log in as root instead |
| 15:15.05 | koeien | innociv: su - |
| 15:15.10 | tr|nn| | babilen -- i am sending greets from old home to the uk |
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| 15:15.15 | koeien | innociv: use your root password |
| 15:15.24 | innociv | Use it how? |
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| 15:15.30 | innociv | I did su - and entered the root password |
| 15:15.42 | koeien | innociv: ok. then you can edit /etc/sudoers |
| 15:15.44 | ernini | babilen: but are you in any use for reporting it to? or are you just gonna mention its testing blabla |
| 15:15.46 | babilen | tr|nn|: Thanks (hope you are fine!) -- See also thewanderer1's remark about pcntl on squeeze. I really can't help you further ;) |
| 15:15.46 | Delf | tremon: No sorries, thank you for trying. |
| 15:15.49 | innociv | It gives me that error. |
| 15:15.52 | xingu | horzuh: googling. :) |
| 15:15.54 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/C72LzMd6 |
| 15:16.10 | koeien | innociv: don't use sudo in a root shell |
| 15:16.16 | innociv | Oh |
| 15:16.22 | innociv | dhunter said sudo visudo |
| 15:16.29 | horzuh | innociv: HAHAHA |
| 15:16.38 | innociv | ? |
| 15:16.39 | horzuh | I just realized your problem |
| 15:16.45 | koeien | if your /etc/sudoers is broken, sudo will refuse to work for security reasons |
| 15:16.51 | horzuh | your sudoers file is broken, you can't use sudo |
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| 15:17.39 | babilen | ernini: I see dailies from 20-Jan-2012 - So no new dailies for the last 3 days. You can pop into #debian-boot on irc.debian.org, but I strongly recommend to *not* use the installer and in particular *not* to run testing on production boxes. |
| 15:17.40 | innociv | Yeah I get that |
| 15:17.43 | dhunter | horzuh: damn that's right |
| 15:18.04 | dhunter | innociv: have root? no pun intended :) |
| 15:18.14 | horzuh | I know, I'm just laughing at everyone telling you to sudo visudo |
| 15:18.18 | ernini | babilen: thnx for the pointing to debian-boot, we use testing basicly because we like more recent packages, installing minimal anyways |
| 15:18.25 | horzuh | (no offense, just very funny) |
| 15:18.27 | innociv | How do I put multiple commands under NOPASSWD? |
| 15:18.31 | ernini | babilen: yeh after 20 januari the kernel changed to 3.2 :) |
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| 15:18.41 | tremon | innociv: separate them with , (comma) |
| 15:18.45 | xingu | horzuh: ok that (sysctl output) is saying your shmmax is still set to 32MB; raise it to 4GB |
| 15:18.52 | horzuh | sorry, don't mean to laugh at you dhunter, it's just funny |
| 15:18.56 | innociv | Adding "php-cli ALL=NOPASSWD: useradd, chown, usermod" does that look right? |
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| 15:19.01 | _ramo | hi |
| 15:19.05 | horzuh | xingu: ok |
| 15:19.26 | _ramo | how do i add an existing user to a group? useradd -G www-data <username> ? |
| 15:19.27 | babilen | ernini: testing should not be run on anything that remotely resembles a production system. There are so many reasons not to do this that I don't even know where to start, but security fixes are a major point. |
| 15:19.36 | koeien | _ramo: adduser name group |
| 15:19.43 | innociv | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.43 | llutz | _ramo: useradd -aG |
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| 15:19.44 | ernini | babilen: lol i dont care, just want this fixed |
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| 15:19.59 | babilen | ernini: Anyway, you probably don't need me to give you that lecture as you are most likely well aware that what you are doing is wrong. |
| 15:20.09 | ernini | babilen: yup :), but thnx tought |
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| 15:20.21 | dhunter | horzuh: don't mention it, Its funny to me too |
| 15:20.23 | webad_13 | anyone using seamlessrdp: if the connection breaks would I loose the work (say if I was typing something in notepad), or could I restore it like with normal rdp |
| 15:20.29 | _ramo | koeien: okay, why am i not possible to cp a file in a directoy when i'm in the group ? |
| 15:20.33 | _ramo | i always get permission denied |
| 15:20.56 | tremon | innociv: you may be missing the target user. Try php-cli ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: useradd, chown, usermod |
| 15:20.58 | koeien | _ramo: that depends on the permissions ont he directory |
| 15:21.00 | llutz | _ramo: dir not group writable or you did relogin aafter being added to the group |
| 15:21.11 | llutz | did not* |
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| 15:21.39 | tr|nn| | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.01 | horzuh | innociv: 'su - root X' is very close to 'sudo X', except that you need the root password instead of your own. |
| 15:22.06 | innociv | "php-cli ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: useradd, chown, usermod" still gives an error. |
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| 15:22.10 | horzuh | where X is whatever you need |
| 15:23.18 | horzuh | xingu: attempting installation again. |
| 15:23.47 | dhunter | anyone knows when kde 4.7 will enter wheezy? |
| 15:24.25 | _ramo | koeien: the directory has 770 and it's owend by www-data:web1 |
| 15:24.39 | _ramo | my user (ramo) is already in the gropu www-data and web1 |
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| 15:25.02 | innociv | So erm... Why am I getting a parse error there? |
| 15:25.11 | horzuh | xingu: same thing :-( |
| 15:25.13 | babilen | dhunter: It's not even in unstable yet. I'd recommend to read the debian-kde mailing list archives for related discussions. |
| 15:25.14 | tremon | innociv: try with absolute paths? |
| 15:25.17 | themill | dhunter: last I looked, there were some qt bits that weren't compiling on IA64 so it's waiting for that to be fixed |
| 15:25.25 | koeien | _ramo: did you try to log in and log out? |
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| 15:25.26 | tr|nn| | babilen -- its the last two weeks for my thesis. you can say I'll be fine after that deadline :) Any plans for visiting good old germany? |
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| 15:25.35 | xingu | horzuh: there's a few google insta-guides/ walk throughs on the installation process; I turned up this one http://www.dbspecialists.com/oracle11glinux.html which looks ok to a quick skim |
| 15:25.36 | _ramo | koeien: i was already in the groups |
| 15:25.37 | koeien | _ramo: maybe a parent directory has the wrong permissions. |
| 15:25.45 | koeien | maybe it's marked as immutable. |
| 15:25.56 | _ramo | koeien: is it the + at the end? |
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| 15:26.00 | dhunter | thanks!! babilen themill |
| 15:26.09 | tr|nn| | have thought of implementing a heiner approach as an extension for mediawiki... if i get too bored.. but not in the near future. would you be available for questions? |
| 15:26.13 | xingu | horzuh: you can ignore anything to do with hugetlb if you're using an x86_64/amd64 kernel |
| 15:26.16 | tr|nn| | ^--babilen |
| 15:26.16 | innociv | That worked, tremon |
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| 15:27.21 | horzuh | xingu: Ok |
| 15:27.32 | babilen | tr|nn|: See private message(s) |
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| 15:28.45 | babilen | dhunter: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/ + http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/ |
| 15:28.53 | ksuhku | How can I openvt as a user? I get Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console |
| 15:29.11 | Raymond_ | where would i find debian build scripts |
| 15:29.12 | llutz | _ramo: + means "ACLs active" |
| 15:29.25 | horzuh | xingu: is it possible that shm is limited to half of the available system memory? |
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| 15:30.49 | _ramo | i'm confused... i can't execute any command there... it's always permission denied llutz |
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| 15:31.30 | llutz | _ramo: getfacl /the/dir (man getfacl, man setfacl) |
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| 15:35.45 | xingu | horzuh: I don't think so; but what does "grep shm /proc/mounts" report |
| 15:35.47 | xingu | horzuh: ? |
| 15:35.55 | horzuh | h/o |
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| 15:36.22 | horzuh | tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime 0 0 |
| 15:36.55 | xingu | horzuh: fair enough, that's fine |
| 15:37.05 | xingu | horzuh: was checking for size=somethingtiny |
| 15:37.39 | horzuh | Hmm. I doubt it'll be tiny, it's giving me 1/2 or my system memory. |
| 15:38.16 | tremon | isn't 50% of system memory the default for tmpfs? |
| 15:38.35 | horzuh | tremon: maybe, can I increase that? |
| 15:38.53 | tremon | mount -o remount,size=80% /dev/shm ? |
| 15:39.03 | karlpinc | horzuh: There are some limits that can be frobbed. See /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.32/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt.gz and perhaps vm.txt.gz in the kernel doc package (or whatever kernel version you're using.) |
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| 15:39.35 | horzuh | !define frob |
| 15:39.36 | karlpinc | horzuh: (oops, the linux-doc package.) |
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| 15:40.06 | karlpinc | horzuh: To make large adujstments to. As in frob, twiddle, tweak. See wikipedia. |
| 15:40.18 | horzuh | Ahh, thx |
| 15:40.21 | xingu | horzuh: concur with the size=80% suggestion |
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| 15:40.44 | tremon | horzuh: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/F/frob.html |
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| 15:40.45 | horzuh | ran the command, going to throw that in my fstab |
| 15:40.48 | xingu | horzuh: although I usually use size=nnnn syntax instead |
| 15:41.14 | tremon | horzuh: if you' |
| 15:41.18 | xingu | horzuh: you may have /etc/default/tmpfs to set the default at-boot size (rather than fstab) |
| 15:41.30 | karlpinc | horzuh: I've not been following the conversation, but why such a large tempfs? The kernel uses unused ram for disk buffers anyway.... |
| 15:41.40 | tremon | ... are running squeeze [then listen to xingu] :) |
| 15:41.44 | horzuh | karlpinc: oracleDB |
| 15:42.15 | tremon | btw I'm not convinced that Oracle's use of "shared memory" corresponds to /dev/shm size |
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| 15:42.39 | zxd | hi |
| 15:42.39 | horzuh | tremon: agreed, it seems to ignore all kernel.shm twidles |
| 15:42.51 | xingu | tremon: me neither, but the oracle installer is erroring out even though shmmax/shmall are set to reasonable values. |
| 15:42.54 | zxd | how do I configure dpkg to not prompt me for any question |
| 15:43.07 | zxd | do not prompt dialog |
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| 15:43.12 | themill | zxd: what are you really trying to do? |
| 15:43.17 | tremon | zxd dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
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| 15:43.26 | zxd | tremon: thanks |
| 15:43.34 | themill | (that won't really do what you want though) |
| 15:43.45 | horzuh | Glad I opened up fstab, fd0 goes in /dev/null |
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| 15:44.06 | horzuh | how do I check the mounted size of tmpfs? |
| 15:44.06 | tremon | themill is right, you can set priority high or critical and that will avoid most questions, but not all |
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| 15:45.12 | zxd | themill: why, it says non interfactive will not ask anything |
| 15:45.49 | xingu | horzuh: df -k /dev/shm |
| 15:45.50 | tremon | ah yes, changing frontend... that's quite evil though :) |
| 15:46.07 | themill | zxd: that means *debconf* will not ask anything. UCF and dpkg may still do so. You will also end up with packages incorrectly configured. |
| 15:46.08 | valerie_ | Hi guys, where is wlan0 ( WiFi ) configuration file located? I know eth0 is configured in /etc/network/interfaces , but where is WLAN0? |
| 15:46.34 | horzuh | Ahh, didn't thingk df would show tmpfs |
| 15:46.36 | zxd | themill: don't care about the last |
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| 15:47.16 | zxd | themill: dpkg will still do it? it does not use debconf? |
| 15:47.40 | themill | if it has to ask about conffile updating it will. |
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| 15:47.58 | themill | (hint: if you told us what you were really trying to achieve, you'd get better answers) |
| 15:48.32 | zxd | themill: I don't want postinst script to ask me any questions |
| 15:48.37 | zxd | themill: nada |
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| 15:48.49 | zxd | themill: I will worry about package configurations |
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| 15:48.53 | bs0d | Guys, my sound card is no longer detected, how to fix this? |
| 15:48.59 | horzuh | xingu: that seems to have gotten me there, testing now |
| 15:49.06 | themill | zxd: answering the configuration questions in advance is a better option |
| 15:49.21 | zxd | themill: don't worry |
| 15:49.25 | bs0d | alsactl init tells me Unknown hardware: HDA-Intel Realtek ALC883 |
| 15:49.30 | zxd | themill: I just want to know how to avoid the prompts |
| 15:49.43 | horzuh | is `init 0` the preferred way to kill the machine? |
| 15:49.46 | themill | zxd: the best way of avoiding them is to answer the questions in advance. |
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| 15:50.03 | themill | dpkg: tell zxd about preseed |
| 15:50.15 | tremon | horzuh: "kill" in what way? I prefer alt-sysrq-b myself... |
| 15:50.33 | valerie_ | Anyone knows where is wlan0 configured ? |
| 15:50.46 | horzuh | tremon: kill, like shutdown happily |
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| 15:50.55 | valerie_ | !wlan |
| 15:50.56 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <killswitch>, <wpa>, <wlan howto>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 15:51.07 | gele | valerie_: configured how? |
| 15:51.24 | valerie_ | gele: if you want a static IP address for example ? |
| 15:51.30 | valerie_ | gele: for WLAN0 |
| 15:51.34 | tremon | horzuh, usually "poweroff" is what you want |
| 15:51.44 | zxd | themill: what packages use debconf |
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| 15:51.53 | gele | valerie_: either in /etc/network/interfaces or by NetworkManager if you're using that. |
| 15:51.55 | zxd | themill: you said dpkg might still prompt for questions |
| 15:52.04 | horzuh | Ahh, is that significantly different from init 0? |
| 15:52.13 | tremon | horzuh: nope |
| 15:52.16 | valerie_ | for eth0 you go in /etc/network/interfaces - why wlan0 is not seen in network interfaces ? |
| 15:52.34 | tremon | zxd: dpkg will still ask questions if a conffile is to be replaced |
| 15:52.53 | tremon | you can avoid those with --force-conf{old,def,new} options |
| 15:52.54 | themill | zxd: that happens when you modify config files in ways that it does not understand; answering the questions via debconf (e.g. through preseeding) will (almost always) avoid this. |
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| 15:53.11 | gele | valerie_: you can configure your wireless interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces too if you want. on a desktop system it's typically handled by NetworkManager though. |
| 15:54.04 | horzuh | xingu & company: thank you very much, it accepted 3072 that time. (doesn't accept 3073, so we got it spot on) Thank you very much |
| 15:54.15 | themill | zxd: you have two options here -- you can work with the packaging system or against it. If you work with it, it will cooperate with you and your life will be easy. If you work against it, you will have to continue to work against it forever more, you will be unhappy and you will go around complaining that you don't like the debian way of doing things. |
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| 15:54.35 | valerie_ | gele: thanks, it is kind of confusing, why not one place for everything ? - NetworkManager has only GUI - is there a file you can modify through CLI ? |
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| 15:54.43 | themill | zxd: using the tools that are available in the way that they were designed to be used is probably a better option than fighting them. |
| 15:55.10 | tremon | valerie_: there is supposed to be a nm_cli command, but I've never used NM |
| 15:55.15 | xingu | horzuh: great, happy to help. |
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| 15:57.21 | valerie_ | gele: I want to create a bridge for kvm - virtual machines - usually I do it through /etc/network/interfaces - since I used eth0 it was straight forward - so you suggest to add wlan0 as an entry in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 15:58.06 | gele | valerie_: if you want to. you may need to tell networkmanager to stay away from it. |
| 15:58.19 | valerie_ | gele: how would I do that ? |
| 15:59.09 | gele | valerie_: edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and set managed=false in the [ifupdown] section. Then it will not touch any interfaces that are mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces. |
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| 16:04.48 | horzuh | Is there an easy way to install make 3.80 instead of 3.81-8? |
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| 16:05.29 | technologov | I have changed my wallpaper in KDE, but no way to revert it to Debian one... any ideas ? |
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| 16:05.54 | technologov | horzuh, look for "Debian-Snapshots" repo |
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| 16:09.51 | p3rror | any one experienced with ssh tunneling |
| 16:10.00 | p3rror | i have a server behind a firewall |
| 16:10.03 | p3rror | that filter all ports |
| 16:10.14 | p3rror | and i have a public server somewhere in internet |
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| 16:10.34 | p3rror | and i need to access to the private server behind the firewall via ssh |
| 16:11.21 | tremon | p3rror: use -R to create a remote port (for returning traffic), -L for a local port (man ssh) |
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| 16:11.59 | kmmndr | hi all :-) |
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| 16:12.34 | kmmndr | I'm search the squeeze equivalent of lenny's linux-modules |
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| 16:13.26 | kmmndr | p3rror: what are you searching to do ? |
| 16:13.42 | p3rror | access via ssh to a server behind a firewall |
| 16:13.43 | babilen | p3rror: You might also like "-W" for newer SSHs for multi-hop -- but ^^^^ |
| 16:14.12 | p3rror | actually i can not add rule to firewall |
| 16:14.30 | p3rror | so i think to bounce my ssh connection via a ssh public server |
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| 16:14.50 | p3rror | in private server i may tape |
| 16:14.52 | babilen | tape? |
| 16:14.54 | colo-work | how the flying fuck does one configure slapd's braindead cn=config mess into providing ldaps? |
| 16:15.06 | babilen | heh |
| 16:15.07 | p3rror | in private server i may run |
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| 16:15.31 | p3rror | ssh -v -f -R 3000:public:22 private -N ? |
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| 16:15.34 | tremon | colo-work: via the equally brain-dead slaptest -f -F construct :) |
| 16:15.49 | kmmndr | p3rror: in your .ssh/config file it is : https://gist.github.com/24f95d04dc0832218edd |
| 16:16.33 | colo-work | tremo_, I don't even get where to put the paths to my key, cert and ca-cert |
| 16:17.14 | p3rror | kmmndr, ? |
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| 16:17.40 | babilen | p3rror: I guess that you are trying to configure multi-hop ssh. There are essentially two approaches: One uses netcat and the other ssh's "-W" command that was introduced in version $STILL_NEED_TO_FIGURE_THIS_OUT -- You essentially ssh into the first box (i.e. the firewall) and from there to the internal box. Your client configures the ProxyCommand |
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| 16:19.01 | p3rror | kmmndr, babilen let see this coorectly |
| 16:19.02 | babilen | p3rror: See, for example, http://sshmenu.sourceforge.net/articles/transparent-mulithop.html for the former approach. The latter is almost identical, but you would use something like "ssh -W%h:%p GATEWAY" (replace GATEWAY) ... |
| 16:19.19 | tremon | colo-work: they are attributes to cn=config, olcTLSCACertificateFile olcTLSCertificateFile and olcTLSCertificateKeyFile |
| 16:19.44 | babilen | p3rror: The -W was "recently" introduced ... lets figure out what version you need for that. |
| 16:20.23 | p3rror | babilen, GATEWAY must be replace by the public server ? |
| 16:20.37 | tremon | (in general, the attributes are the same as the statements in the original config file, but prefixed with olc) |
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| 16:21.24 | colo-work | tremo_, thank you so much! |
| 16:21.43 | colo-work | you saved my life. or at least that of the machine that hosts this fucking POS that is slapd. |
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| 16:22.09 | tremo_ | colo-work: could you please stop highlighting on me? |
| 16:22.28 | colo-work | I'm sorry. I did not even notice that until now. |
| 16:22.35 | tremo_ | i did :) |
| 16:22.39 | tremo_ | nevermind... |
| 16:22.44 | colo-work | tremon, thank YOU so much then ;) |
| 16:23.16 | tremon | lol... openldap isn't that bad, but it lacks a configuration interface. There are various good ldap browsers out there... |
| 16:24.11 | colo-work | the last time I configured slapd was before they had the "great" idea of storing it as LDIF files in files with absolutely batshit insane names. |
| 16:24.21 | colo-work | it was quite messy back then, but I think it's much worse by now. |
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| 16:24.43 | colo-work | and of course, the debugging output is useless garbage. |
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| 16:25.43 | Sc0rian | how do i get export nfs and allow version 3 too |
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| 16:51.10 | dtcrshr | I have a debian machine installed inside a virtualbox server. I dunno about the installation but i need more disk space. on virtualbox iv managed to increase the disk size, and with fdisk -l the new size iv choosed is displayed on disk /dev/sca |
| 16:51.38 | dtcrshr | considering its a text only machine, is there something as gparted or even fdisk itself that i can increase the partition? |
| 16:51.50 | babilen | p3rror: GATEWAY would be the name for the "middle-man" -- (ruapehu in the example) |
| 16:52.56 | tremon | dtcrshr you can resize partitions with fdisk as long as you do not modify the starting sector. Start with -u and disable DOS-compatible mode |
| 16:52.56 | koeien | dtcrshr: what is your file system |
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| 16:57.03 | lancelot_of | hi there |
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| 16:57.51 | lancelot_of | i'm using kernel 3.2 from sid distro for amd64. Why does it make my system staying at more less 10°C more then kernel 2.6.39? |
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| 16:59.25 | lancelot_of | the system is identical, no other changes done, just loaded the new kernel and the CPU temp is up to 54°C without using anithing else than xchat, now, instead of the 39-40 °C of kernel 2.6.39 using mail client,terminal,web browser |
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| 16:59.43 | lancelot_of | any suggestion?please help me understanding what's going wrong |
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| 17:00.08 | tremon | lancelot_of: well, the simplest explanation is a faulty/rewritten sensor driver... |
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| 17:00.36 | dtcrshr | koeien: ext4 |
| 17:01.58 | lancelot_of | tremon, thanks for your answer, so how to fix? |
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| 17:02.34 | p3rror | babilen, and h is the server behind firewall |
| 17:03.07 | babilen | p3rror: You leave %h and %p as they are (they will be replaced with the correct host/port as detailed in the SSH docs) |
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| 17:03.49 | p3rror | babilen, there are a ssh service runining on the gateway |
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| 17:04.08 | dtcrshr | hmm. iv already exported the vm do vmdk, i can mess arround the partition table |
| 17:04.12 | dtcrshr | ill give parted a try |
| 17:04.16 | ilikenwf | any of you ran into the issue with randomly encrypted swap and tmp partitions with luks that for some reason luks detects the old formatting/header and won't reformat? is there a trick to get around this? |
| 17:04.26 | tremon | lancelot_of: that really depends on the exact cause. I'd send a mail to debian-kernel or debian-user, maybe someone has the same experience |
| 17:04.27 | ilikenwf | on reboots, that is |
| 17:04.30 | babilen | p3rror: Sure, that is why you can ssh into the gateway and connect to the internal host from there. You are merely automating the proxying. |
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| 17:06.34 | lancelot_of | tremon ok, thanks |
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| 17:07.01 | lancelot_of | tremon and now how to know if the problem is going to be solved? |
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| 17:09.03 | tremon | lancelot_of: that really depends. Maybe it can be fixed with a setting somewhere, maybe it's in sensors, maybe it's in the kernel. I'd ask around before filing a kernel bug |
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| 17:10.23 | lancelot_of | tremon, so i'll periodically take a look at changelog in image changelog |
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| 17:12.09 | tremon | lancelot_of: if it's really a bug, then you should report it. You'll get notified via the bugreport |
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| 17:22.07 | digitalice | hi, got a problem over here, i deleted /var/log/auth.log ... what should i do now? |
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| 17:24.32 | ksuhku | digitalice: hope your boss don't understand what that means |
| 17:24.32 | jelly-home | digitalice: restart rsyslog, live life |
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| 17:24.37 | tremon | NO |
| 17:24.38 | I_am_NOT_root | how do I instruct cut to yield the last field? I need it to get a filename's extension (need an appropriate substitution for <last> "cut -d. -f<last>" |
| 17:24.43 | tremon | don't restart syslog |
| 17:24.44 | jelly-home | digitalice: er, wait |
| 17:25.00 | tremon | syslog still has the file open |
| 17:25.03 | jelly-home | digitalice: do you want to restore that data |
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| 17:25.18 | tremon | so via /proc/<pid>/fd you might be able to retrieve the file |
| 17:25.28 | dioz | anyone know if a 700mhz p3 w/ 128 mb of ram would play divx? |
| 17:26.09 | jelly-home | dioz: not all of today's media |
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| 17:26.40 | digitalice | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.54 | digitalice | jelly-home: how do i restart syslog? |
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| 17:27.19 | tremon | I_am_NOT_root: sed s/^.*\.// ? |
| 17:27.26 | MadRush | im looking to put a debian live .img onto usb ... i was thinking dd if=/path/to/my.img of=/dev/sd[x] ... no bueno, any suggestions? |
| 17:27.33 | jelly-home | digitalice: there ought to be an init script for it. /etc/init.d/rsyslog |
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| 17:29.42 | digitalice | jelly-home: /etc/init.d/rsyslog restart ? |
| 17:29.51 | jelly-home | digitalice: a rotate or restart action ought to do the trick |
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| 17:30.24 | digitalice | jelly-home: cool, it worked ;) thanks |
| 17:31.46 | digitalice | jelly-home++ |
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| 17:33.31 | Owner | mempodipper works on debian because /bin/su is not ASLR protected...but it doesnt work on CentOS |
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| 17:34.22 | jelly-home | fuck is mempodipper |
| 17:34.43 | Owner | http://git.zx2c4.com/CVE-2012-0056/plain/mempodipper.c |
| 17:34.47 | jelly-home | ... yet another local priv. escalation |
| 17:34.59 | Owner | works great on debian |
| 17:35.19 | jelly-home | good thing Debian has a 2.6.32 kernel, eh! |
| 17:35.41 | jelly-home | !cve lookup CVE-2012-0056 |
| 17:35.41 | dpkg | Information about the security advisory CVE-2012-0056 may be found at http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2012-0056 |
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| 17:35.53 | themill | [squeeze] - linux-2.6 <not-affected> (introduced in 2.6.39) |
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| 17:37.17 | Owner | ok well specifically i gues si meant |
| 17:37.23 | Owner | excluding kernel version |
| 17:37.30 | Owner | /bin/su on debian is not ASLR protected |
| 17:37.39 | Owner | readelf -h /bin/su |grep Type |
| 17:37.39 | Owner | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.43 | Owner | vs on centos its Dynamic |
| 17:38.02 | Owner | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:38.12 | dioz | slowpaste is slow |
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| 17:38.18 | Owner | might be somethign to think about |
| 17:38.31 | pasky | I have a distro package and my package and I'd like my package to provide some files that the distro package provides, but of course only if the distro package is not installed; is there an easy way to achieve that without modfiying both packages to use alternatives? |
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| 17:39.51 | themill | Owner: "reportbug login" would be the best way of making your suggestion. |
| 17:39.52 | valdyn | Owner: are you sure? a shared object file is a .so file |
| 17:40.09 | Owner | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.09 | Owner | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:40.28 | gele | valdyn: an executable can be dynamically loadable as well. |
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| 17:41.11 | valdyn | gele: yes, like libc6 |
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| 17:41.33 | jelly-home | themill: also /bin/mount, /usr/bin/chfn, and probably other suids |
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| 17:41.57 | Owner | i dont think im going to report it |
| 17:42.06 | Owner | just wanted to put it out there |
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| 17:42.35 | Owner | yeah im lazy |
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| 17:42.40 | themill | Owner: debian does not hide its security bugs |
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| 17:43.39 | pasky | alternatively, is there an _opposite_ of dpkg --force-overwrite? |
| 17:43.39 | Owner | themill| well someone should make the suggestion i guess, but i dont care that much to do it |
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| 17:44.10 | tremon | owner: then get off the soapbox? |
| 17:44.26 | Owner | tremon| lurk more? |
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| 17:47.35 | EdePopede | hello. question on java: what should be used on debian6? |
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| 17:50.08 | tremon | EdePopede: openjdk, or I don't understand your question |
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| 17:52.23 | EdePopede | ah, openjdk-6-jre et al are installed. i only am not sure where the actual problems come from. if it is xfce (kde before) or openjdk (sun java before) |
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| 17:52.48 | EdePopede | and i have no vms and the like to test it out |
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| 17:55.38 | tremon | I know there are some interoperability problems between openjdk and sun java; you can always download java from oracle's site and see if that solves anything for you |
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| 17:57.18 | somiaj | EdePopede: sun-java is in the non-free debian repos for debian6 and can be installed that way, some applications just like sun-java over openjdk, so you can install either. Now since orcal took away the ability for third party to distribute java, sun-java has since been removed from non-free and will not be in future releases of debian. |
| 17:58.10 | jelly-home | somiaj: sun-java from the repos is out of date, and may be removed soonish |
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| 17:59.10 | somiaj | jelly-home: they are going to take it out of debian-stable, I figured it would just stay there unless orcale is forcing us to not distribute it. To bad things are just programed for sun java and don't always work as expected with openjdk (I'm still using the outdated sun-java package on my sid install) |
| 17:59.38 | jelly-home | I've just repacked 1.6_30 |
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| 17:59.48 | rapid10 | hey |
| 17:59.54 | somiaj | jelly-home: wonder if orcal will allow us to go back to the old java-package so we can have a script download/package sun java to install it that way. |
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| 18:00.40 | somiaj | similar to flashplugin-nonfree in contrib |
| 18:00.44 | jelly-home | somiaj: providing a helper tool is up to Debian, not Oracle |
| 18:01.58 | somiaj | well wasn't sure if they had some strange agreement where you can't use a script to download it from their servers. But yes, I hope debian puts in some helper tool, or better yet openjdk just becomes more compadable with apps written for sun's java |
| 18:03.05 | zykotick9 | wondering if anyone has a suggestion/explanation of the difference in line drawing between xterm and aterm. http://imagebin.org/195095 xterm is on top and appears correctly. Both terminals are using the same terminus font. |
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| 18:03.54 | jelly-home | zykotick9: use a UTF-8 compliant terminal emulator like rxvt-unicode-lite, for a start |
| 18:04.16 | zykotick9 | jelly-home: thanks, I'll look into it. |
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| 18:05.51 | jelly-home | zykotick9: the settings are a bit different, but most of the functionality that aterm had (= tinted, transparent background :) is there |
| 18:05.55 | EdePopede | is there a tric to get rid of the whole java stuff? or must i deinstall each of the packages by itself (and therefore first search for jre, jdk, java, tea, cacao.........)? |
| 18:06.25 | Caelum | how do I post a message to a bug? |
| 18:06.36 | zykotick9 | jelly-home: off to a good start anyways, it renders alsamixer correctly. Off to research configuration. Thanks! |
| 18:07.05 | tremon | Caelum: there is al mailto link at the top of each bug (if we're talking about Debian BTS) |
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| 18:07.46 | Caelum | tremon: found it thanks! |
| 18:08.23 | jelly-home | zykotick9: http://paste.debian.net/153367/ |
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| 18:09.13 | zykotick9 | jelly-home: thanks again! :) |
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| 18:09.38 | jelly-home | zykotick9: depends on whether you use a compositing wm or not |
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| 18:11.03 | zykotick9 | jelly-home: i'm not using compositing currently. trying out awesome for the last week or so, I'm really liking it (though it's still over my head still in many areas). |
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| 18:11.48 | _ramo | how can i see in what group a user is? |
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| 18:12.22 | llutz | _ramo: "id user" |
| 18:12.26 | zykotick9 | _ramo: "grep USERNAME /etc/group" is one method |
| 18:12.46 | ilikenwf | any of you good with LUKs? |
| 18:12.46 | ilikenwf | i have my root, tmp, and swap encrypted |
| 18:12.53 | ilikenwf | tmp and swap are randomly encrypted/created ach boot |
| 18:13.18 | ilikenwf | except each reboot the old luks header is seen and it won't reencrypt/reformat the partitions for those now |
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| 18:13.53 | Harzilein | hi |
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| 18:14.02 | melik | has anyone here played with Dell OMSA? |
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| 18:15.11 | Harzilein | are there installer packages that make use of bittorrent? (only works if stuff is redistributable of course, so the cases where it cannot go into non-free but be shared with bittorrent might not be so many) |
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| 18:15.51 | daemonkeeper | There are bittorrent seeds for Debian installer images. |
| 18:16.11 | themill | ,i apt-transport-debtorrent |
| 18:16.12 | judd | Package apt-transport-debtorrent (admin, optional) in squeeze/i386: an APT transport for communicating with DebTorrent. Version: 0.2.2; Size: 26.4k; Installed: 124k; Homepage: http://debtorrent.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 18:16.12 | Harzilein | daemonkeeper: i was referring to installer packages though |
| 18:16.17 | daemonkeeper | http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ |
| 18:16.29 | Harzilein | themill: i know. i was not referring to that |
| 18:16.50 | Caelum | apparently still no fix for the disappearing cursor issue in rxvt-unicode |
| 18:16.50 | Harzilein | daemonkeeper: i know. please read what i wrote. i mean stuff like the msttcorefonts etc. |
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| 18:17.45 | Harzilein | in fact, just any list of currently existing "downloader"/"installer" packages would help |
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| 18:18.24 | twobitsprite | anyone know why debian doesn't have majordomo? I'm actually really surprised it doesn't... or am I just not finding it for some reason? |
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| 18:18.50 | Harzilein | twobitsprite: majordomo is nonfree afaik |
| 18:19.01 | MadRush | how do you change your sources.list so you can go from squeeze -> sid |
| 18:19.08 | Harzilein | twobitsprite: maybe there are licensing details that make it even unfit for non-free |
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| 18:21.14 | twobitsprite | Harzilein: I suppose... it's license is a bit odd, but it does seem freely redistributable |
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| 18:21.53 | twobitsprite | not a big deal, I can just use mailman... I was just surprised |
| 18:22.15 | themill | Harzilein: oh... that's what you mean by "installer package". There aren't many of them in the archive and most people would like them to go away not do more work on helping them work with torrents rather than just wget. |
| 18:23.06 | Harzilein | themill: heh :) |
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| 18:23.56 | Harzilein | twobitsprite: i think the license disallows charging for distribution or something |
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| 18:26.34 | jhutchins_lt | MadRush: That's the kind of question where if you have to ask how, you really shouldn't be doing it. |
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| 18:27.35 | Rancid870 | ciao |
| 18:27.38 | Rancid870 | !list |
| 18:27.38 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
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| 18:29.18 | forfolias | hi, i just installed phpmyadmin and when i try to reload lighttpd i get a "Duplicate config variable in conditional 0 global: alias.url" and i get a 404 trying to reach phpmyadmin. I think it's because of /etc/lighttpd/conf-enabled/50-phpmyadmin.conf. Any ideas ? |
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| 18:29.45 | jhutchins_lt | forfolias: This is why you stick to apache. |
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| 18:33.25 | EdePopede | for instance, %20V generates the candidate version of the package, 20 characters wide <<< that's what the manual for aptituzde says, but the actual width still depends on the width of xterm :( |
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| 18:34.06 | EdePopede | how can i say eg: 20 chars package name. 50 chars (or maybe as needed) description? |
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| 18:35.44 | jhutchins_lt | How would that be useful? |
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| 18:37.42 | EdePopede | passing output to less without truncating descriptions and/or having an empty area betweeen both |
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| 18:40.35 | zykotick9 | jelly-home: it seems rxvt-unicode-lite addresses a number of my "issues". thanks for the pointer. |
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| 18:42.58 | forfolias | ok, i fixed the phpmyadmin-lighttpd problem. The /etc/lighttpd/conf-enabled/50-phpmyadmin.conf file was included after some $HTTP["host"] and it for some reason it didn't like it/ so I took the alias.url from the file and put it inside lighttpd.conf and everething is ok now |
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| 18:44.22 | wilfredor | Greetings. I am trying to create a PDF document. In the document, all pages containing images and text similar, my question is. Me I can reuse it?, I'm looking for ways to decrease the size of the pdf. Thank you very much for your cooperation |
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| 18:47.07 | wilfredor | Thanks |
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| 18:49.47 | drawks | hey all |
| 18:49.52 | tdn | Ok. so here's the problem. I accidentially deleted my /etc/fstab. How do I recreate it? |
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| 18:50.09 | daemonkeeper | cat /proc/mounts is a start |
| 18:50.37 | drawks | /etc/mtab is probably approximately correct |
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| 18:50.50 | karlpinc | tdn: You could read "man fstab" |
| 18:50.54 | drawks | ^ that |
| 18:51.22 | karlpinc | tdn: Here's mine, but your's will surely be different. http://pastebin.com/J3SrzBMt |
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| 18:52.04 | drawks | anyone else besides me having problems gettings the debian installer to do md raid on big disks? my preseeds fail with 2TB disks, I suspect maybe some gpt/raid interraction isn't going well in d-i |
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| 18:52.59 | drawks | I found http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=567590 which seems to describe a similar behavior but is also marked as fixed. |
| 18:53.28 | karlpinc | drawks: You could check the bug tracking system. If you can't get help here you could ask on #debian-boot on irc.debian.org. |
| 18:53.52 | drawks | karlpinc, thanks |
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| 18:56.47 | karlpinc | drawks: The bug tracking system has a bug, #630440. You can't easily tell what release the bug was fixed in. It's unclear to me how this relates to the installer, but perhaps the bug was fixed for the next release of debian but not stable. |
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| 18:57.24 | simonlnu | there's a new point release coming out (or is), might be fixed there |
| 18:58.02 | tdn | karlpinc, thanks. |
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| 18:58.48 | karlpinc | tdn: In particular, noatime is usually not needed any more. |
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| 18:59.41 | karlpinc | cerise4096: You should not run irc as root. |
| 19:01.12 | tdn | karlpinc, oh, why not? |
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| 19:01.39 | tdn | My rootfs is a USB stick. Is there any ext4 mount options I should put in fstab to optimize for this? |
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| 19:02.46 | karlpinc | tdn: I forget, exactly. It's because the kernel does not update atime unless it "needs to". Maybe I'll go google.... |
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| 19:04.01 | tdn | karlpinc, ok. |
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| 19:11.09 | karlpinc | tdn: I'm guessing that the default is now relatime instead of atime, so there's no need for noatime. See: http://lwn.net/Articles/326511/ Apparently this is as of 2.6.30. |
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| 19:13.12 | drawks | yeah that whole bit of kernel defaultiness is, imho, poorly done |
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| 19:13.52 | drawks | it defaults to relatime, but a statvfs call doesn't reveal that in every case |
| 19:14.07 | drawks | there are some other weirdnesses around that |
| 19:14.20 | drawks | magic happens... it shouldn't be magic |
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| 19:14.27 | drawks | but that is perhaps a linux kernel discussion |
| 19:14.49 | tdn | karlpinc, ok. Thanks. |
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| 19:16.25 | karlpinc | drawks: I also see no obvious place where this is revealed in /sys. But then I don't know what I'm doing in /sys anyway so I can't complain. |
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| 19:18.47 | druonysus | I am looking to find out the speed of the drive I have installed on a machine in the data center... is there something in proc that I can cat out to tell me that info |
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| 19:20.43 | valdyn | druonysus: no |
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| 19:22.25 | druonysus | valdyn: okay, is there a tool I can use then? |
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| 19:24.11 | aarkerio | hi! what is "2048/tcp open dls-monitor" ?? |
| 19:24.27 | aarkerio | what program is this? |
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| 19:25.10 | jhutchins | aarkerio: This is IRC. |
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| 19:25.52 | tremon | aarkerio: lsof -i |
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| 19:28.46 | loop- | druonysus lshw |
| 19:29.12 | karlpinc | druonysus: bonnie++ |
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| 19:29.19 | slaeshja1 | Hi, I need some help with mdadm (forgotten how it works...) I have a RAID1 setup on two disks, but mdadm doesn't autodetect it. What may I need to do to make it workey? |
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| 19:29.54 | slaeshja1 | assemble just spits out that they doesn't have a superblock |
| 19:29.59 | valdyn | slaeshja1: it needs to be in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
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| 19:30.29 | valdyn | slaeshja1: oh, i guess in that case theres no superblock then |
| 19:30.51 | slaeshja1 | valdyn: There is, it works fine in another box |
| 19:30.59 | EdePopede | aptitude: iirc, when i search a package, after each keypress it brings me to the next matchiong package name (aka google instant search). can i turn this off? |
| 19:31.20 | slaeshja1 | valdyn: Looking in man-page for a conversion flag, since I am migrating from a different endianess. |
| 19:31.42 | slaeshja1 | valdyn: (I can't remember if it was cryptsetup or mdadm I converted the superblock for) |
| 19:31.52 | druonysus | lshw is not available |
| 19:32.04 | loop- | install it |
| 19:32.14 | valdyn | lshw isnt useful to get the speed of a harddisk anyway |
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| 19:32.36 | karlpinc | EdePopede: You can install aptitude-doc-yourlanguagehere and look in file://usr/share/doc/ so forth. (I always use aptitude from the command line: aptitude search foo) |
| 19:32.43 | loop- | get the drive and google it |
| 19:32.47 | loop- | boom |
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| 19:33.35 | EdePopede | karlpinc: so i do normally. but uninstalling java one by one needs half a day. and it doesnt tell me "wait, there's more left" |
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| 19:35.16 | karlpinc | EdePopede: Dunno. Perhaps: aptitude remove $(deborphan | grep java) But that sounds dangerous so don't just try it. |
| 19:35.35 | tremon | EdePopede: why does that need half a day? It's only a few packages, what am I missing? |
| 19:35.40 | ElDiabolo | Why might dpkg-buildpackage delete the Makefile, or is this sth. the Makefile might do? |
| 19:35.53 | EdePopede | problem: java, jdk, jre, tea, cacao.... i see no system in it |
| 19:36.07 | tremon | ElDiabolo: maybe because it's supposed to be generated from Makefile.in? |
| 19:36.09 | karlpinc | EdePopede: debtags might help. |
| 19:36.17 | valdyn | EdePopede: theres various virtual machines to run java |
| 19:36.18 | slaeshja1 | mdadm -a /dev/md127 /dev/sdb1 |
| 19:36.20 | slaeshja1 | woops |
| 19:36.52 | tremon | EdePopede aptitude remove ~sjava? |
| 19:36.53 | ElDiabolo | tremon, Is dpkg-buildpackage assuming this ? |
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| 19:37.15 | tremon | ElDiabolo: no, it should be codified in debian/rules |
| 19:37.29 | slaeshja1 | Oh, I need to update the byte order, my mdadm problem is probably solved |
| 19:38.03 | EdePopede | simulate? i dont see how this may help |
| 19:38.36 | tremon | http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html#searchSection |
| 19:39.32 | ElDiabolo | tremon, Ah, I did not modify that yet, hoped the defaulds would do. Seems they don't. |
| 19:39.43 | ElDiabolo | Thx |
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| 19:41.18 | EdePopede | great.... using search opend a couple of trees in aptitude and most of the entries had green background. so: quit without save and restart -.- |
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| 19:44.40 | EdePopede | and after restart a collision that i dodnt have before |
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| 19:47.53 | chymist | OH GOD GNOME 3. |
| 19:47.56 | chymist | What in actual fuck?! |
| 19:48.22 | chymist | HELP |
| 19:48.34 | chymist | I'm trapped in this.. this thing. |
| 19:48.43 | chymist | I don't know what to do. |
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| 19:50.04 | loop- | install kde. its what all the winners do |
| 19:50.23 | willwh | lxde ftw :P |
| 19:50.33 | Moebius | i'd rather install lxde than kde. |
| 19:50.43 | Moebius | although i can't stand both of them |
| 19:50.44 | willwh | yah I do not like kde :] |
| 19:50.45 | loop- | we all want your soul. |
| 19:50.50 | Moebius | kde is good, but not 4. |
| 19:50.53 | willwh | hey guys - so I am fairly new to debian |
| 19:50.56 | willwh | and I need some help :p |
| 19:51.09 | karlpinc | willwh: Just ask. |
| 19:51.11 | willwh | running a debian lenny deploy on my VPS |
| 19:51.13 | EdePopede | Moebius: install 3.x and then ask for help when you have a problem |
| 19:51.15 | willwh | I am getting there.... :] |
| 19:51.25 | Moebius | EdePopede, haha.. well, i can't install that. |
| 19:51.29 | willwh | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=snmp-mibs-downloader |
| 19:51.30 | Moebius | EdePopede, i mean i can, but only from Trinity. |
| 19:51.35 | willwh | ^ there is no package for that for lenny |
| 19:51.49 | Moebius | willwh, better get Squeeze. |
| 19:52.03 | Moebius | willwh, there's no reason today to run Lenny. Technically you can, but.. why bother?.. |
| 19:52.05 | karlpinc | willwh: Since you're new, you may want to see the <introduction> and <overview> factoids. (Type in irc "/msg dpkg overview".) |
| 19:52.20 | willwh | thx karlpinc |
| 19:52.32 | karlpinc | willwh: Thing is, lenny's going out of security support in a few weeks. |
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| 19:52.42 | willwh | Moebius: well - this thing is already running mailserver / nginx proxying etc etc etc |
| 19:52.45 | willwh | it is?! |
| 19:52.48 | willwh | oh :[ |
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| 19:52.55 | Moebius | willwh, i see. Well.. better rush and upgrade. |
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| 19:53.21 | karlpinc | willwh: Debian will upgrade. Be sure to read the release notes for upgrade instructions. |
| 19:53.24 | willwh | well - thx for the info lads, I'd better go and get started :) |
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| 19:53.46 | karlpinc | willwh: Mostly, you only need chapter 4, but the rest of it can be _very_ useful to keep things from going badly or recovering when they do. |
| 19:53.53 | karlpinc | !tell willwh about release notes |
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| 19:55.17 | karlpinc | willwh: You get a year of security support after the next debian release. So you can run any given debian stable release for 2-3 years + 1 year, depending on how often new releases come out. |
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| 19:55.39 | chymist | Could someone please offer a real solution to the problem of what the hell to do with this thing? I don't like it. |
| 19:55.42 | chymist | I liked Gnome 2. |
| 19:55.46 | chymist | This is horrible. |
| 19:55.56 | chymist | Downgrade to stable? |
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| 19:56.22 | karlpinc | chymist: That will only work for a while. Instaed, switch to another desktop. |
| 19:56.28 | abrotman | chymist: sure .. your choices are a) get used to gnome3 b) use another WM .. gnome2 is dead upstream .. |
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| 19:57.00 | abrotman | chymist: squeeze will be supported for awhile if you really want to cling to gnome2 |
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| 19:58.09 | chymist | I need something with which I can be productive. Gnome 3 does not offer that. |
| 19:58.13 | chymist | Any suggestions? |
| 19:58.16 | abrotman | chymist: gnome 3 is nice once you play with it a bit |
| 19:58.44 | abrotman | chymist: for those people taht can't accept teh cahnge, many have been going to XFCE |
| 19:58.49 | abrotman | pfft .. i can't type |
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| 20:00.07 | karlpinc | I'm (again) trying to get a 80x24 system console. This time on a box running squeeze with the 2.6.39 kernel from bdo. It's got intel graphics, pciid [8086:a011]. (Cute vendor id, that.) I tried using nomodeset on the kernel command line. wiki.debian.org/KernelModeSetting does not, AFICT, otherwise say how to disable kms. I tried vga=VGA_NORMAL and the kernel flashed a message (or something did) complaining that this was depreciated, or something. |
| 20:00.44 | abrotman | you think that VID was an acident? :) |
| 20:01.12 | abrotman | karlpinc: google "grub gfxmode" for that vga= bit |
| 20:01.23 | karlpinc | abrotman: Thanks. |
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| 20:03.07 | EdePopede | output of aptitude: 1st column is state, right? so i means installed, p means not installed. so if busybox is installed, busybox-static NOT... why does aptitude shows that B collides with B-S? (red background on both lines) |
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| 20:04.24 | willwh | as a side note - terminator is the best thing since sliced bread |
| 20:04.27 | willwh | I love it |
| 20:04.52 | abrotman | and skynet? |
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| 20:05.23 | willwh | abrotman: heh |
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| 20:10.43 | chymist | lxde is comparatively nice. |
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| 20:13.27 | bs0d | Hello guys. I need to add to apt a packages source from ubuntu, but I get an error: "Method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found" ... how to add https functionality to apt? |
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| 20:14.18 | gnarface | bs0d: why do you want to do that? |
| 20:14.31 | tremon | ,info apt-transport-https |
| 20:14.32 | judd | Package apt-transport-https (admin, optional) in squeeze/i386: APT https transport. Version: 0.8.10.3+squeeze1; Size: 81.5k; Installed: 152k |
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| 20:15.12 | karlpinc | chymist: e17? |
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| 20:17.28 | karlpinc | abrotman: GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 and GRUB_GFXMODE=648x480x8 don't seem to do anything. vbeinfo in grub says it's set to 640x480x8 (0x101 iirc), but I still get teeny fonts. |
| 20:18.17 | gnarface | karlpinc: if you're aiming for 40x80 mode you're gonna want to shoot for somewhere well below vga |
| 20:18.31 | EdePopede | Ouch! Got SIGTERM, dying.. <<< aptitude using 101% CPU? sure i kill it -.- |
| 20:19.04 | gnarface | karlpinc: er, 80x24 |
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| 20:19.36 | karlpinc | gnarface: 640x480 is the lowest resolution. I don't care about the resolution, I want my 80x24 terminal back! A) the font is too small to read. B) The eye can't track back to find the next line when lines are long anyway. There's a reason newspapers are written in columns. |
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| 20:19.59 | karlpinc | gnarface: vbeinfo says nothing smaller than 640x480. |
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| 20:21.02 | karlpinc | (It probably wouldn't kill me to get more than 24 lines, but I don't want more than 80 columns.) |
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| 20:22.12 | Harzilein | hmm |
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| 20:23.00 | karlpinc | EdePopede: Aptitude does database-y things. Even when killed it'll try to keep going to prevent db corruption. Or that's my guess. |
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| 20:23.15 | Harzilein | i remember there was a command that helped with splitting debian.diff.gz files to make a pure debian/*-diff and a deb with the debian-modified stuff to go into the quilt dir once the package gets converted |
| 20:23.20 | Harzilein | but i can't find it... |
| 20:23.27 | bs0d | How to teach aptitude understand package repositories over https?? >< |
| 20:23.38 | abrotman | karlpinc: i dont'know much about it .. i don't use it .. i just knew the term |
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| 20:24.16 | gnarface | karlpinc: there should be away to disable it and get the old VGA=ask functionality so you can give it a integer matching the corresponding native text mode of your video card, one of which i'm sure is what you're looking for. ever since they went to this new grub syntax i don't know how anymore though |
| 20:24.59 | EdePopede | karlpinc: must be corrupted anyway. marking collisions of installed with not installed packages does not look sane |
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| 20:25.12 | karlpinc | gnarface: I tried vga= on the kernel command line editing from the grub boot menu. I get some sort of warning that flashes by too fast to read. (Probably because this is 2.6.39 from bdo.) |
| 20:25.39 | EdePopede | last time i used in in interface mode there were no problems and i exited normally |
| 20:25.41 | MrMind | Hi! I use Squeeze + backports kernel and today I got some kernel updates... it installed some kernel 3.0 stuff but not the 3.0 image? why is that? |
| 20:25.45 | simonlnu | vga option is deprecated, probably |
| 20:25.51 | karlpinc | gnarface: All the same, I want 80x24 even with newer kernels. |
| 20:26.23 | karlpinc | simonlnu: yes. The message starts by saying that. I tried using rdev.... ;-) |
| 20:26.44 | simonlnu | because it *is* deprecated ;) |
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| 20:27.20 | karlpinc | MrMind: There will proably never be a backported 3.0 kernel for squeeze because that requires a change to udev as well. |
| 20:27.29 | abrotman | bs0d: why are you adding ubuntu repositories to Debian ? |
| 20:27.44 | wald0 | if i install "upstart", the system will boot faster ? (worth), it is correctly compatible/integrated with debian ? |
| 20:27.55 | valdyn | wald0: not really |
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| 20:28.29 | abrotman | wald0: if you're using squeeze, you already have a parallel boot system right ? |
| 20:28.33 | karlpinc | wald0: Debian now uses insserv, which does daemon starting in parallel. |
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| 20:28.57 | karlpinc | abrotman: bsd0 does not seem to want to answer that question. |
| 20:29.09 | abrotman | i'll just keep asking |
| 20:29.15 | MrMind | karlpinc: oh okey. but wierd that it installed linux-headers-3.1 and stuff |
| 20:29.18 | wald0 | im in testing |
| 20:29.35 | abrotman | wald0: you still have insser |
| 20:29.35 | wald0 | and.. it is a good future candidate or is not worth for a future migration ? |
| 20:29.37 | abrotman | insserv |
| 20:29.54 | abrotman | !tell wald0 about insserv |
| 20:30.00 | valdyn | wald0: the future is more likely systemd, but you dont gain anything by using those right now |
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| 20:31.02 | wald0 | abrotman: seems like that the end work of insserv is similar to upstart |
| 20:31.29 | valdyn | wald0: not really |
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| 20:31.34 | gnarface | karlpinc: i'm not saying you're wrong for wanting that, what i am saying is that it seems to be a mystery how to accomplish it properly. fwiw i can confirm that installing the commercial nvidia driver will forcibly disable that shit right quick for you though |
| 20:31.43 | GTRsdk | How do I get to the Printing menu? |
| 20:31.47 | GTRsdk | uses LXDE |
| 20:31.52 | karlpinc | I am really going to have to get around to filing a giant bug report complaining about the lack of 80x24 console. I suppose it's the kernel I should be complaining about. ? |
| 20:32.02 | abrotman | wald0: that's what we've been trying to tell you ... |
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| 20:33.14 | karlpinc | gnarface: This is a stock asus netbook, with just stable + bdo. I also have problems on all my other boxes. Most of them have old crts, but there's a laptop with a super-hirez screen that also does not work. (That one I can, iirc, blacklist the module.) |
| 20:34.00 | gnarface | karlpinc: yea my experience matches yours exactly i just actually like the tiny text |
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| 20:34.07 | karlpinc | GTRsdk: What are you trying to do? |
| 20:34.10 | valdyn | karlpinc: you cant set it with fbset? |
| 20:34.20 | GTRsdk | karlpinc: trying to add a printer |
| 20:34.27 | karlpinc | valdyn: Dunno. I'll rtfm. |
| 20:34.53 | karlpinc | GTRsdk: You want the cups web interface: http://localhost:631 |
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| 20:35.02 | karlpinc | GTRsdk: (And you must have cups installed.) |
| 20:35.28 | epicfail | guys i bought the clockwork man, downloaded it but when i start it i just get a white window |
| 20:35.33 | valdyn | karlpinc: the new graphics subsystem ( I dont know how else to call it ) defaults to the lcd displays native resolution for me, but it should be adjustable freely |
| 20:35.45 | GTRsdk | karlpinc: no I was wantign the System Settings -> Printing -> Add |
| 20:35.57 | GTRsdk | but I have no system settings... |
| 20:36.22 | valdyn | GTRsdk: install "xfprint4" |
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| 20:37.42 | karlpinc | valdyn: I'll give it a try. (I'm thinking rc.local, but have not yet rtfm-ed.) |
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| 20:39.17 | valdyn | karlpinc: this is just for play, Im sure theres kernel parameters / module parameters to set this early |
| 20:39.18 | GTRsdk | valdyn: when I go to system settings, I still see nothing |
| 20:39.35 | karlpinc | gnarface: I'd like the teensey fonts a whole lot better if I could get _2_ terminals side by side on one screen. That way I'd get lots of lines, but not lots of columns. |
| 20:39.58 | karlpinc | valdyn: I can't find the kernel parameters/etc. |
| 20:40.01 | valdyn | GTRsdk: "dpkg -L xfprint4 | grep bin" should show the program, run it and see |
| 20:40.10 | valdyn | GTRsdk: i dont really know xfce at all |
| 20:40.42 | karlpinc | valdyn: (he's using lxde, iirc. Not that he couldn't use xfprint4 for that reason.) |
| 20:41.00 | valdyn | oh, oops |
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| 20:41.59 | GTRsdk | valdyn: I'm using LXDE... |
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| 20:43.35 | tremon | karlpinc: you can get 2 terminals side-by-side if you install screen(1)... |
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| 20:46.24 | ededdy | Hi, I am trying to open a file with O_CLOEXEC, O_NOFOLLOW set in my flag, I have included fcntl.h. Do I need to enable some special macro to access these flags ? |
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| 20:46.34 | valdyn | karlpinc: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/KMS |
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| 20:46.54 | valdyn | karlpinc: im assuming kms is already enabled by default on your system |
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| 20:48.40 | bs0d | What do I need to do, if in apt repository I have libicu44, but need libicu42 and it cannot be found? |
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| 20:57.06 | abrotman | bs0d: which version of Debian do you have? |
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| 20:57.27 | bs0d | 6.0.3 squeeze, stable release |
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| 20:57.51 | abrotman | bs0d: it comes with libicu44 .. why do you need 42 ? |
| 20:57.52 | bs0d | I've got libicu44 in repo, but libicu42 needed, what should I do? |
| 20:58.08 | abrotman | needed WHY? |
| 20:58.37 | bs0d | a package depends on libicu42 and installing it I get error about dependency that cannot be found / resolved |
| 20:58.45 | themill | don't mix debian and ubuntu... |
| 20:58.54 | gnarface | broken package? |
| 20:58.57 | abrotman | which package depeneds on libicu42 ? |
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| 20:59.23 | gnarface | ooh ooh i think i know ! |
| 20:59.26 | gnarface | keeps silent |
| 20:59.44 | abrotman | bs0d: which package is it which depends on libicu42 ? |
| 21:00.00 | bs0d | that's not Debian package, thats kind of drivers to handle smart card reader, proprietary ones, and that package depends on libicu42, not 44 and I can do nothing with this, so I need to get libicu42 somehow |
| 21:00.45 | abrotman | bs0d: what kind of smart card reader is that? have you tried the .39 kernel in BPO ? |
| 21:01.13 | abrotman | in short .. trying to force that package to install will break a lot of other things most likely |
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| 21:02.07 | bs0d | that's Estonian state ID card ( kind of digital passport ), and appropriate software and drivers, produced by state infosystems agency, I need to install that package. ID card is used for identification in many places, and I need to install that package |
| 21:02.21 | gnarface | i don't get why it needs an outdated version of libicu |
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| 21:02.28 | karlpinc | valdyn: Yes, kms is enabled. Surely the right way to do it is with a font. I've tried missing around with console-tools (IIRC, perhaps console-data too) but there's no font that's nearly large enough. |
| 21:02.31 | gnarface | sounds like a bug in the package to me |
| 21:03.07 | bs0d | gnarface but still, I cant change the package on my own |
| 21:03.10 | themill | gnarface: binary-only package compiled against some oldish ubuntu release |
| 21:03.12 | abrotman | bs0d: why not unpack the package, change the deps, repack and try to install it |
| 21:03.50 | bs0d | abortman I am not so experienced in Linux unfortunately, Im not sure I will be able to do it correctly, as needed |
| 21:03.58 | themill | doesn't imagine that the soname is going to work out there |
| 21:04.15 | karlpinc | valdyn: Now the kbd package does have something in it called resizecons, but kbd conflicts with console-tools and I've not tried installing it so as to read the man page. (I'll go poking about the web.) |
| 21:04.48 | bs0d | the instructions are here: http://support.sk.ee/eng/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=1609 |
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| 21:05.18 | bs0d | there is no package for Debian, only for Ubuntu, but I think, that Ubuntu is very close to Debian and I follow instructions for Ubuntu |
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| 21:07.05 | bs0d | I may try to unpack the invalid package and change the dependencies, but if anyone could guide me through this process |
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| 21:10.44 | bs0d | also I get another error: qdigidoc depends: libqtcore4 ( >= 4:4.7.0~beta1) but 4:4.6.3-4+squeeze1 is to be installed ... how to tackle this? |
| 21:11.24 | themill | the icu error we could try to work around; that's just not going to happen |
| 21:11.34 | themill | Sure the source code for this package isn't available? |
| 21:12.49 | bs0d | the repository is here: https://installer.id.ee/media/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/ |
| 21:13.10 | bs0d | there is Packages.gz file and Packages file with description of packages, it has broken deps :( |
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| 21:14.40 | bs0d | how to install it? |
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| 21:22.12 | brixtonasias | What's the best way in Debian squeeze to record a screencast - or a video of my screen to show to others? |
| 21:22.27 | Arthur456 | hola a tutti |
| 21:22.53 | Arthur456 | !list |
| 21:22.53 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
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| 21:23.32 | abrotman | brixtonasias: istanbul or recordmydesktop |
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| 21:25.31 | brixtonasias | abrotman, thanks, will give it a try. |
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| 21:32.45 | thewanderer1 | in git, how does one decide which revision to end up with when merging? for example, I want to preserve file1 (despite conflict with file1 from the "foreign" branch) and import file2, completely overwriting the current file2. |
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| 21:33.34 | konradb | between* |
| 21:33.41 | thewanderer1 | (I do not want git to put markers in my text files when they conflict, just choose one or the other revision) |
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| 21:36.40 | spal | Is there any widget application for Debian where I can show clocks, weather, etc.? |
| 21:36.56 | tremon | thewanderer1: look up merge strategy (ours vs theirs iirc) |
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| 21:38.11 | Dagger3 | -Xours and -Xtheirs by the looks of things |
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| 21:38.59 | Dagger3 | (both of those are options to the recursive strategy, not strategies in their own rights. there's also an "ours" merge strategy, but that just completely ignores the remote tree) |
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| 21:40.45 | bitcycle | Hey all. Can someone point me to a good tutorial on setting up davmail and integrating it with lightning on the client side? |
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| 21:41.58 | thewanderer1 | Dagger3, no per-file resolutions possible, though |
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| 21:44.44 | Dagger3 | hm, indeed. maybe something like `git checkout :2:filename` (or 3) would work? |
| 21:45.20 | z28 | spal: if you run Gnome you can right click on the upper panel and click, 'add to panel.' |
| 21:45.32 | thewanderer1 | so I fetch first and then checkout the desired branch? |
| 21:45.55 | thewanderer1 | and then commit? |
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| 21:46.06 | ompaul | bitcycle: eh break your own problem down there a bit, installing lightning on icedove is something you do if it is available as an addon within icedove, then the whole davmail well that is depending on how you want your mail to be looked at apt-get install davmail does not work s0 it is not core to debian you can have fun with that - you could run a distro that supports it |
| 21:46.16 | ompaul | bitcycle: butthen it wouldn't be debian |
| 21:46.28 | ompaul | judd versions davmail |
| 21:46.29 | judd | No package named 'davmail' was found in i386. |
| 21:46.34 | spal | z28, I mean a widget engine. |
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| 21:46.46 | Dagger3 | the idea would be to start the merge as normal, then check out copies of the files from the appropriate branches |
| 21:47.28 | thewanderer1 | I know... the thing is, I normally start merges and end them instantly with just one command: pull :P |
| 21:47.33 | z28 | spal: I can't help you there, perhap wiki.debian.org or google |
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| 21:47.54 | Dagger3 | the "How To Resolve Conflicts" section of the manpage suggests that :2:filename gives you the file from HEAD and :3:filename gives you the file from MERGE_HEAD, which I guess are the two sides of the merge |
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| 21:48.21 | TashBear | is there anyway to use the alt key inside a qemu, is for some keystrokes and sendkey not seems to work |
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| 21:53.59 | zykotick9 | TashBear: if you are using xterm inside your qemu environment, try holding down CTRL and left clicking in xterm, then try checking/unchecking Meta Sends Escape. |
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| 21:55.35 | TashBear | zykotick9: is a tty |
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| 21:56.27 | zykotick9 | TashBear: sorry, i have not idea then. Good luck. |
| 21:56.28 | bitcycle | Hey all. Can someone point me to a good tutorial on setting up davmail and integrating it with lightning on the client side? |
| 21:58.17 | TashBear | zykotick9: Thank you man, have a nice day |
| 21:58.42 | ompaul | I said this but you timed out bitcycle: eh break your own problem down there a bit, installing lightning on icedove is something you do if it is available as an addon within icedove, then the whole davmail well that is depending on how you want your mail to be looked at apt-get install davmail does not work s0 it is not core to debian you can have fun with that - you could run a distro that supports it |
| 22:00.01 | Hurr|cane | can somone help me |
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| 22:00.29 | Hurr|cane | looking for a good apt- installation command for proxy on debian |
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| 22:01.01 | Hurr|cane | and |
| 22:01.19 | ompaul | apt-zip? |
| 22:01.20 | Hurr|cane | es1 to xbox one |
| 22:01.38 | valdyn | Hurr|cane: what proxy do you want? |
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| 22:05.04 | Skeeter- | !ipv6 |
| 22:05.05 | dpkg | Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) is the next-generation IP version designed to replace IPv4. Available in Debian since <potato>, full IPv6 support was a release goal for Squeeze. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6 http://ipv6.debian.net/ http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/ http://www.ipv6.org/ #debian-ipv6 on irc.oftc.net, #ipv6 on irc.freenode.net. To disable IPv6 on your system, ask me about <noipv6>. |
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| 22:07.45 | mroe | I am running 2.6.32 and it seems like I don't have the ipv6 module loaded and yet I still have an ipv6 address |
| 22:07.58 | mroe | is the ipv6 module built into the kernel now? |
| 22:08.10 | Dagger3 | mroe: it's in the kernel in Squeeze |
| 22:08.15 | mroe | ugh |
| 22:08.19 | Skeeter- | mine todesnt work |
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| 22:08.53 | Skeeter- | i must have blacklisted it before |
| 22:09.00 | Skeeter- | dunno how to make it worknow |
| 22:09.05 | jarray52 | Does anyone have experience using wide format printers on Debian/linux? |
| 22:09.07 | Dagger3 | mroe: so long as you only have addresses beginning with fe80:: (and ::1), you can just ignore it. shouldn't harm anything |
| 22:09.16 | mroe | Dagger3, it is harming NFS |
| 22:09.42 | TashBear | jarray52: just ask! |
| 22:09.48 | TashBear | =D |
| 22:09.51 | TashBear | ask! |
| 22:10.10 | jarray52 | TashBear: Not sure what the best channel to ask the question is. |
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| 22:10.40 | jarray52 | What wide format printers/scanners are supported by Debian/linux? |
| 22:11.09 | Skeeter- | use-ipv6=yes |
| 22:11.10 | Skeeter- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.26 | valdyn | !disable ipv6 |
| 22:11.27 | dpkg | To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny: echo install ipv6 /bin/true >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for this change to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel (excluding loongson-2f flavour), add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader. |
| 22:11.30 | valdyn | Skeeter-: ^^ |
| 22:12.05 | Dagger3 | mroe: what specifically is broken? I suspect I won't know how to fix it, but I'd at least like to know the places where breakage happens |
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| 22:12.46 | mroe | I can't mount an nfs export on a machine with no ipv6 support |
| 22:12.55 | mroe | even though I am using the ipv4 address |
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| 22:14.11 | mroe | valdyn, to add that to my boot loader I should add that line to /etc/grub/conf.d/40_custom? |
| 22:14.23 | valdyn | mroe: no |
| 22:14.35 | valdyn | mroe: dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc |
| 22:14.42 | mroe | I don't really know my way around grub2 |
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| 22:15.19 | valdyn | mroe: that custom script would be for non-debian systems. Debian pretty much autogenerates its own entries |
| 22:15.29 | mroe | gotcha |
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| 22:15.47 | valdyn | mroe: you just run abovementioned command or edit /etc/default/grub manually followed by update-grub |
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| 22:17.53 | Dagger3 | mroe: ok, yeah, I don't have any clue why that is. really doesn't sound like the sort of thing that should happen :/ |
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| 22:19.27 | Skeeter- | valdyn, i want it to work, not disable |
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| 22:20.21 | Dagger3 | Skeeter-: are you getting fe80:: addresses in `ifconfig`? |
| 22:20.39 | Skeeter- | Dagger3, nope |
| 22:20.51 | Skeeter- | Dagger3, nvm, i do |
| 22:20.58 | valdyn | Skeeter-: if you disabled it, then dpkg told you how you might have done that. Now you could reverse that, is that not obvious? |
| 22:21.08 | Skeeter- | but i cant "ping6 ipv6.google.com |
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| 22:21.24 | valdyn | Skeeter-: your isp supports ipv6? |
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| 22:21.43 | valdyn | (most isps do not, at least outside asia) |
| 22:21.51 | Skeeter- | yes -> connect: Network is unreachable |
| 22:21.53 | Dagger3 | Skeeter-: ah, well, then the modules/code are loaded. but fe80:: (that is, Scope:Link) addresses aren't useful for reaching the global internet; you need proper addresses to do that (i.e. ISP support or a tunnel) |
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| 22:22.15 | valdyn | Skeeter-: how do you come to the "yes" conclusion from nothing working properly? |
| 22:22.28 | Skeeter- | valdyn, cuz i donty know anything in networking |
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| 22:22.48 | valdyn | Skeeter-: that would lead me to the "I don't know" conclusion |
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| 22:23.01 | Skeeter- | my isp supports it |
| 22:23.02 | Skeeter- | http://about.telus.com/community/english/news_centre/news_releases/blog/2011/06/08/world-ipv6-day |
| 22:23.13 | robert45 | hey guys, I need to upgrade my proftpd-basic package to 1.3.3e, does anyone know how to do this? |
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| 22:23.40 | valdyn | Skeeter-: they say explicitely that they dont support ipv6 |
| 22:23.47 | thewanderer1 | robert45, why do you *need* to do that? |
| 22:23.54 | valdyn | Skeeter-: you need to setup an ipv6 tunnel first, thats written there |
| 22:23.59 | Hurr|cane | can somone tell me how to find a host on my own home tetwork |
| 22:24.14 | civillian | Hurr|cane: walk around? |
| 22:24.16 | thewanderer1 | Hurr|cane, have you lost it networkically or physically? :P |
| 22:24.20 | robert45 | thewanderer1 I need to make my site PCI compliance and the version I have has vulnerabilities |
| 22:24.28 | HSorgYves | morning; it looks like one of my own servers brings the main firewall in a state where it blocks all incoming traffic; i have a guess which server it might be; how can I check what is going wrong there? |
| 22:24.37 | Hurr|cane | it's not connected jet to the router |
| 22:24.39 | robert45 | have done this on centos but Im new on debian |
| 22:24.40 | Hurr|cane | no |
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| 22:24.50 | thewanderer1 | robert45, it does not - Debian backports patches without changing version numbers. PCI compliance is bullcrap. change the version number and recompile. |
| 22:24.55 | littlebit | hello people, im trying to create a multiboot usb stick which also includes debian isos and i use grub as a boot loader, can someone tell me how to configure grub to use the debian isos for that? |
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| 22:25.39 | robert45 | thewanderer1 how can I check the bug changelog report from the backported version? |
| 22:25.58 | robert45 | or how do I change the version number, the proftp-basic got installed from apt |
| 22:26.02 | thewanderer1 | robert45, /usr/share/doc/$packagename/changelog* |
| 22:26.06 | robert45 | its not a source compilation |
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| 22:26.26 | thewanderer1 | robert45, to change the version number, you get the source package (apt-get source), alter what you need, and run "debian/rules binary" |
| 22:26.27 | Hurr|cane | thewanderer1 can you help by this ? |
| 22:26.50 | thewanderer1 | I may, if I don't get distracted by the utterly stupid movie on the TV :) |
| 22:27.13 | Hurr|cane | ok |
| 22:27.15 | robert45 | thewanderer1, and thats it? |
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| 22:28.17 | thewanderer1 | robert45, yeah... PCI tests are the dumbest thing ever, they only look at versions and assume it's fine or not :P |
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| 22:28.43 | thewanderer1 | robert45, oh, you obviously need to install the resulting recompiled package afterwards |
| 22:29.08 | thewanderer1 | robert45, and remember to only ever upgrade it by hand... |
| 22:29.20 | karlpinc | robert45: Best is to disable version number output to remote sites. |
| 22:29.34 | Erik___ | I'm trying to copy a couple of log files over to my flash drive. I plug in my flash drive and cd /mount/ and see cdrom, cdrom0, cdrom1, and 2893-21A2 |
| 22:29.35 | karlpinc | robert45: Often that's just configuration. |
| 22:29.49 | Erik___ | I assume the latter is my flash drive and copy all necessary files there |
| 22:29.54 | robert45 | karlpinc aah that would be easier, is it possible in proftp? |
| 22:29.58 | Erik___ | It is not my flash drive. Any suggestions? |
| 22:30.14 | robert45 | I dont think so |
| 22:30.24 | Erik___ | I reformatted it a couple weeks ago and it has worked fine on all other computers. |
| 22:30.29 | thewanderer1 | Erik___, check what it is, then :P |
| 22:30.35 | karlpinc | robert45: Dunno. I prefer vsftp. But I don't know if it's possible there either. (Actualy I prefer to avoid ftp. :-) |
| 22:30.47 | robert45 | k |
| 22:30.57 | thewanderer1 | Hurr|cane, so you don't know the IP address and want to find it, or you don't know *where* a box is? |
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| 22:31.40 | Erik___ | thewanderer1: What do you mean? The others don't show what should be on the flash drive. |
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| 22:31.54 | karlpinc | valdyn: fbset seems to to bad things. (I tried fbset -g 640 480 640 480 8, and I know that I can get 640x480 in grub.) |
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| 22:33.11 | thewanderer1 | Erik___, wait, so what exactly is the problem? what I understood is that you copied your logs to some device, but the device turned out not to be your flash drive |
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| 22:35.00 | Erik___ | thewanderer1: I'm not sure what the problem is. I go to /mount/ to see what my flash drive is. I copied some files and found out that none of them are actually my flash drive. |
| 22:35.14 | Erik___ | thewanderer1: I think I might not understand where the flash drive is |
| 22:35.25 | Erik___ | thewanderer1: Do you just go to /media/ ? |
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| 22:38.18 | thewanderer1 | Erik___, none of what are your flash drive? |
| 22:38.44 | Erik___ | thewander1: None of the things that look like directories in /media/ are my flash drive. |
| 22:39.01 | teratoma | so i made a custom nginx package. i built it with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -k6BE55AA5 . |
| 22:39.26 | karlpinc | Erik___: Depending on the desktop you use you might need to manually mount the drive. Or install the usbmount package and re-plug it in. Does "mount" say it's mounted? |
| 22:39.27 | teratoma | 6BE55AA5 is my key id. i built it with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -k6BE55AA5 . why cant i sign it? |
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| 22:39.55 | teratoma | http://pastebin.com/2i9ManTT |
| 22:40.22 | spal | how can I enable transparency? |
| 22:40.31 | babilen | teratoma: Are you Sergey Budnevitch <sb@nginx.com> ? |
| 22:40.33 | karlpinc | Erik___: (dmesg will tell you what device it is when you plug/unplug it.) |
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| 22:40.40 | teratoma | babilen: nope! i want to sign with my key. |
| 22:41.10 | raven^ | Hi! I have a /48 IPv6 range that I want added to a VPS. Anyone have a good guide on how to? |
| 22:41.27 | teratoma | i thought this would build, and sign with my gpg key: dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -k6BE55 . what do you think ? 6BE55 is my keid |
| 22:41.31 | teratoma | keyid |
| 22:41.39 | babilen | teratoma: You have to adjust the changelog then. Go into the top directory and run something like "dch -l+local" or so. Please read "man dch" to learn about that tool. Please note that you don't *have* to sign it. You also don't want to pass -us actually. |
| 22:41.56 | teratoma | i want to sign it to put in a local repo |
| 22:42.17 | Erik___ | karlpinc: dmesg says it is /dev/sdf1 |
| 22:42.25 | Erik___ | karlpinc: mount does not show /dev/sdf1 |
| 22:42.58 | Erik___ | karlpinc: I don't understand how it can work fine on other computers but not be automatically mounted. |
| 22:43.10 | teratoma | what does the -us do? |
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| 22:43.12 | rempax | hello |
| 22:43.13 | babilen | teratoma: You need a new entry in debian/changelog with an email addresses that is one of your key's UIDs. dch is a tool to use for that. |
| 22:43.39 | Dagger3 | raven^: what are you trying to do -- I guess you've been assigned the range and you want to actually use it? |
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| 22:43.46 | karlpinc | Erik___: Then (as root) mount /dev/sdf1 /media/usb0 Or where ever you want to mount it. |
| 22:43.46 | karlpinc | Erik___: Mounting is something that your desktop does (or does not do). You configure it to happen, or not. |
| 22:43.46 | karlpinc | Erik___: You could also use the pmount command as a regular user. |
| 22:43.51 | raven^ | Dagger3: Exactly! |
| 22:43.55 | babilen | teratoma: "man dpkg-buildpackage" → "-us Do not sign the source package." "-uc Do not sign the .changes file. |
| 22:44.32 | teratoma | oh. those are exactly things i want to do! |
| 22:44.40 | teratoma | no wonder im not getting anywhere |
| 22:44.55 | karlpinc | Erik___: If you want to use pmount your user has to be in the plugdev group. |
| 22:45.12 | rempax | got a built in wireless card and an external one, the builtin ones scan gets a list of wireless routers but the more powerful external wireless adapter get no results at all , what could be causing this? |
| 22:45.25 | Dagger3 | raven^: can you pastebin the details they've given you? if you don't mind people in here knowing what the range is |
| 22:45.44 | raven^ | Dagger3: Can I msg you them? |
| 22:45.48 | karlpinc | Erik___: If you did the default desktop install you should get a desktop that auto-mounts, I'm pretty sure. |
| 22:45.58 | rempax | how can i check that the external wireless adapter has a hardware problem and its nothing to do with software configuration ? |
| 22:46.03 | teratoma | rempax: there are probably useful error messages in /var/log/daemon.log |
| 22:46.15 | Erik___ | karlpinc: Okay, thanks |
| 22:46.26 | Harzilein | raven^: the hoster we use at work needs us to add a new mac for the interfaces that use v6 addresses so it can set up the routing |
| 22:46.33 | rempax | teratoma : will have a look |
| 22:46.46 | teratoma | rempax: i bet you're missing a binary firmware package |
| 22:46.52 | Dagger3 | raven^: ok... I'd rather keep the main conversation here, but I'll censor the addresses when I do |
| 22:47.01 | rempax | teratoma , that was the first problem, solved it |
| 22:47.01 | Harzilein | raven^: apart from that it was basicall ip addr -F inet6 add .../48 |
| 22:47.06 | Harzilein | basically* |
| 22:47.34 | raven^ | Harzilein: I used ip -6 addr add this.is.my.range/48 dev eth0 |
| 22:47.46 | Dagger3 | Harzilein: hm, adding an IP with a netmask of something other than /64 is usually a mistake :/ |
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| 22:48.15 | Dagger3 | Harzilein: even if you've been allocated a /48. that's 65,536 /64 subnets, and you only need one of them per LAN |
| 22:48.49 | Harzilein | sorry, i was adapting this to raven^'s example. yes, we have only a /64, hoster is that frugal ;) |
| 22:48.54 | karlpinc | Erik___: (FYI, the installer installs "tasks". You can do this yourself with the tasksel command. But installing the default desktop gets _lots_ of stuff.) |
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| 22:49.23 | rempax | teratoma : all i can see in that file is info about wlan0, the external one is wlan1 |
| 22:49.33 | Dagger3 | Harzilein: bleh. we only have about 5000 /48s per person on the planet, so clearly we need to be stingy with our allocations :/ |
| 22:49.37 | rempax | teratoma: where else would you look ? |
| 22:49.58 | teratoma | rempax: unplug the external wireless. tail your logs. plug the external wireless in. does anything happen at all? |
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| 22:50.46 | kreign | can anyone help me understand why dspam isn't packaged/available for debian (unless I run sid for hurd, that is)? |
| 22:51.08 | raven^ | Harzilein: Did I do wrong when I used: ip -6 addr add this.is.my.range/48 dev eth0 |
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| 22:52.18 | rempax | teratoma : nothing. |
| 22:52.25 | Dagger3 | raven^: strictly it depends on the network setup. is eth0 the interface that connects you to your provider? |
| 22:52.31 | Harzilein | i feel it should "work", but Dagger3 might have some more advice on what would be "proper" |
| 22:52.45 | Harzilein | raven^: did your provider tell you a router for your net? |
| 22:52.48 | teratoma | rempax: no idea |
| 22:53.02 | karlpinc | !tell kreign about dspam |
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| 22:53.19 | raven^ | Harzilein: There are a few IPv4 allready, and they use eth0..would that be the same= |
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| 22:53.36 | Harzilein | raven^: can you tell us the ouput of uname -a? |
| 22:53.41 | Harzilein | output* |
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| 22:53.52 | initself | how do i make route add -net 172.20.20.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.16 eth0 permenant? |
| 22:54.14 | raven^ | Harzilein: Can I msg you a pastebin, don't wanna show all in public |
| 22:54.24 | raven^ | root@data:~# uname -a |
| 22:54.24 | raven^ | Linux data.tcp.io 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Nov 3 03:41:26 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 22:55.04 | Harzilein | hmm |
| 22:55.06 | thewanderer1 | Hurr|cane, sooo broadcast ping? |
| 22:55.18 | Harzilein | raven^: i was hoping for some -vserver or -openvz tag |
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| 22:55.27 | Harzilein | raven^: does eth0 have a hardware address? |
| 22:56.04 | karlpinc | !tell initself about interfaces |
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| 22:56.21 | initself | i think rc.local is my answer? |
| 22:56.42 | karlpinc | initself: You can put the command right into the interfaces file. There's hooks. |
| 22:56.50 | initself | cool, thanks! |
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| 22:57.48 | karlpinc | initself: Something like post-up. |
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| 22:59.24 | theSlow1 | Hey everyone, I need to compile some c++ code to run on the mini2440. |
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| 23:00.18 | theSlow1 | My main machine is debian6 AMD64... can someone help me, or give me some links on how to set up toolchain and compiler? |
| 23:00.44 | GJdan | ehh, there's an entry in man mkfs, but using the command gets me -bash: mkfs: command not found |
| 23:01.24 | theSlow1 | nvm, I found something promising, i'll come back when i get stuck |
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| 23:02.51 | raven^ | Harzilein: irssi gives me: -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.efnet.org port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address: 2a01:7900:3::2] |
| 23:02.59 | raven^ | Looks like the range is added, but not working.. |
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| 23:03.31 | EdePopede | GJdan: /sbin/mkfs* |
| 23:03.58 | Dagger3 | raven^: has your VPS provider told you the address which the /48 is routed *to*? |
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| 23:04.22 | Dagger3 | raven^: or have they instead told you "here's your /48, and here's the default router" (and the default router is inside the /48?) |
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| 23:04.23 | Harzilein | raven^: but the interface's ip is ::1 in your paste |
| 23:04.37 | setner | hi everyone |
| 23:04.39 | GJdan | EdePopede: ah, sbin isn't in my path |
| 23:04.57 | raven^ | Dagger3: http://pastebin.com/bqFgLGvM |
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| 23:06.34 | gusto | hi |
| 23:06.35 | raven^ | I have no idea how networking works, that's why I ask stupid questions and don't know what you mean sometimes :S |
| 23:06.44 | gusto | i just installed the kernel 3.1 from the backports |
| 23:06.58 | gusto | but that one does not use the intel backlight driver, what is a good thing |
| 23:07.00 | setner | having a hard time installing drivers for broadcom 4313 wireless card on my EeePC 1215N. Followed the instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/wl#Wheezy but can't connect to my home wireless network. I can see the SSID but connection fails. Any ideas? |
| 23:07.16 | gusto | but how did they manage to pull that intel backlight driver into the background? |
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| 23:07.50 | gusto | setner: well, did you remove the old driver? what kernel are you using? |
| 23:08.05 | Dagger3 | raven^: I have a suspicion you might be in good company... I'm not entirely convinced your VPS provider does either |
| 23:08.45 | setner | i'm using kernel 3.1.0-1-amd64 |
| 23:08.50 | setner | debian 6 wheezy |
| 23:09.01 | setner | with GNOME Classic :D |
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| 23:09.12 | Dagger3 | raven^: what's your v4 default router? are all the IPs from 91.205.60.0 to 91.205.60.7 yours? |
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| 23:09.17 | gusto | setner: you mean gnome2? |
| 23:09.52 | gusto | setner: what does lspci -vv say about the device .. which driver is in use? |
| 23:10.16 | raven | Dagger3: So, the line I used to insert the /48 was correct, but I'm missing a router? |
| 23:10.33 | setner | gusto, give me a minute please |
| 23:10.34 | gusto | raven: /48??? |
| 23:10.43 | Dagger3 | raven: I'm trying to work out what's going on in that paste |
| 23:10.53 | raven | gusto: IPv6 range |
| 23:10.55 | Dagger3 | not sure if you got this: [23:09:11] <Dagger3> raven^: what's your v4 default router? are all the IPs from 91.205.60.0 to 91.205.60.7 yours? |
| 23:10.56 | raven | Dagger3: Ah |
| 23:11.03 | setner | driver in use is brcmsmac |
| 23:11.09 | Dagger3 | or is 91.205.60.1 your VPS provider? |
| 23:11.19 | gusto | setner: so, you have to pull that **** out of there |
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| 23:11.34 | gusto | setner: you have to blacklist that crap |
| 23:11.44 | setner | gusto, can you tell me how? i'm a n00b |
| 23:11.45 | gusto | setner: it has to use the wl driver |
| 23:11.52 | setner | hum |
| 23:12.10 | setner | you mean inserting a line at /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta.conf? |
| 23:12.10 | gusto | setner: hm ... try rmmod brcmsmac |
| 23:12.35 | raven | Dagger3: http://pastebin.com/RTfETB7x .. a copy of /etc/networks/interface |
| 23:12.39 | setner | ok, done |
| 23:12.51 | simonlnu | !module blacklist |
| 23:12.53 | setner | now I can't see any wireless networks |
| 23:12.58 | gusto | setner: yes, ... into that configuration file you put that blacklist brcmsmac .. if it is not already tehre |
| 23:12.59 | simonlnu | !blacklist |
| 23:13.00 | dpkg | To blacklist a Linux kernel module, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 23:13.01 | gusto | there |
| 23:13.04 | setner | ok |
| 23:13.14 | gusto | because if you did not reboot it can not be in effect |
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| 23:13.22 | Dagger3 | raven: ok, I see what's going on. basically your provider doesn't really know what they're doing |
| 23:13.28 | raven | lol |
| 23:13.40 | theSlow1 | Hey everyone, I am not familiar enough with debian: where do I add a repo? or..to what file do I add this line? |
| 23:13.40 | theSlow1 | deb http://www.emdebian.org/debian/ squeeze main |
| 23:13.53 | gusto | theSlow1: into /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:13.59 | Dagger3 | raven: your provider hasn't *actually* routed you your range. what they've done is use it on the interface between you and them (so it's really their range, and you're just a guest on it) |
| 23:14.00 | theSlow1 | gusto: thank you |
| 23:14.02 | abrotman | theSlow1: /etc/apt/sources.list .. but why would you add that to a normal system ? |
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| 23:14.06 | setner | ok, done editing /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta.conf |
| 23:14.15 | setner | gusto, now a reboot? |
| 23:14.20 | gusto | setner: no |
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| 23:14.28 | gusto | setner: we do not even know if it works |
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| 23:14.45 | setner | ok, how can I test it then? |
| 23:14.55 | theSlow1 | abrotman: I need to compile my c++ code to run on arm9 |
| 23:14.56 | gusto | setner: do rmmod brcmsmac and then check lspci -vv again |
| 23:15.19 | raven | Dagger3: So, what do I have to do to be able to use those IP's on my VPS? |
| 23:15.24 | Dagger3 | raven: if you do `ip addr add 2a01:7900:3::2/48 dev eth0` you should get connectivity (make sure you remove whatever other address you've added) |
| 23:15.26 | Raymond_ | hi....is it possible to make a .deb file from a tar.bz2 |
| 23:15.28 | setner | gusto, it doesn't show any driver in use |
| 23:15.32 | gusto | setner: cool |
| 23:15.47 | gusto | setner: now we put that wl in place with - modprobe wl |
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| 23:16.03 | gusto | setner: and check again with lspci -vv |
| 23:16.08 | simonlnu | Raymond_: /msg dpkg nmg (here, not in a terminal) |
| 23:16.27 | Dagger3 | raven: you should be able to assign any IPs from 2a01:7900:3::/48 that aren't in use (i.e. 2a01:7900:3::/48 to 2a01:7900:3:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff/48 excluding 2a01:7900:3::1) |
| 23:16.39 | raven | Dagger3: Why look at that, it worked :) |
| 23:16.41 | gusto | i hate this broadcom cards |
| 23:16.44 | setner | gusto, no driver in use again after the # modprobe wl |
| 23:16.48 | raven | 00:16 -!- Irssi: Your nick is owned by the quoted one [raven@raven.irc] |
| 23:16.48 | raven | 00:16 -!- raven_ [raven@2a01:7900:3::2] |
| 23:16.54 | gusto | well, check if it was already tehre |
| 23:16.57 | gusto | setner: |
| 23:17.03 | Dagger3 | raven: what you CANNOT do is e.g. set up a routed VPN with it |
| 23:17.08 | gusto | setner: do lsmod | grep -i wl |
| 23:17.35 | setner | can I post these 2 lines here? |
| 23:17.44 | Dagger3 | raven: because to do that, you need an IP range routed to you, and your provider _hasn't done that_ (and probably don't even realize they haven't :/) |
| 23:17.44 | raven | Dagger3: So I have to do that line with every IP, or are all IP's avaliable on my VPS now? |
| 23:17.54 | Raymond_ | simonlnu, what do you mean |
| 23:17.54 | gusto | setner: when it shows that that wl driver was there, we need to unload it with rmmod wl and then load it with modprobe wl again, so that he claims that hardware for itself |
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| 23:18.13 | setner | gusto, ok. let me try that then |
| 23:18.13 | Dagger3 | raven: you have a bunch of addresses available to choose from, and can add any of them to eth0 |
| 23:18.29 | gusto | setner: is that broadcom card the airforce one? |
| 23:18.33 | simonlnu | Raymond_: when you do that, you msg someone or a bot, in this case, our channel's bot. it'll open a tab or window when you do that |
| 23:18.45 | raven | Dagger3: Stupid questions continues, how do I add them? :S |
| 23:18.58 | Dagger3 | raven: it looks like you have 90.205.60.{2..7} too? basically that /48 works the same, except you have 2^80 addresses instead of 2^3 addresses |
| 23:19.01 | simonlnu | Raymond_: the bot will tell you some info about your question |
| 23:19.21 | Dagger3 | raven: same way. `ip addr add 2a01:7900:3::42/48 dev eth0` or whatever address |
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| 23:19.32 | setner | gusto, now it shows driver wl in use. But I have no wireless networks listed although I now have a list for the Wired and Wireless network |
| 23:19.46 | raven | Dagger3: So I just change the ::2 to ::3 to add ::3? |
| 23:19.48 | setner | gusto, how can I see if this model is the airforce one? |
| 23:19.59 | gusto | setner: try iwlist scan |
| 23:20.16 | gusto | if it shows any wlan networks |
| 23:20.23 | Dagger3 | raven: indeed |
| 23:21.00 | setner | gusto: it shows a bunch of data about one network SSID (which is not the one from my home network) |
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| 23:21.14 | gusto | setner: cool |
| 23:21.42 | raven | Dagger3: Sweet, now to get some vhosts to try it with |
| 23:21.43 | gusto | what does dmesg say? |
| 23:22.03 | Dagger3 | raven: and here's how you do things in /e/n/i: http://pastebin.com/jfDHud7T |
| 23:22.12 | gusto | setner: put your dmesg into a pastebin and give me the link, i have to look at it |
| 23:22.23 | Dagger3 | so they actually stick around over reboots |
| 23:22.35 | gusto | and then i am going to sleep, i have enough of these broacdom cards, i have two my own |
| 23:22.36 | setner | gusto: ok thank you. give a few seconds |
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| 23:23.36 | gusto | but i think we are on the wrong way because it really looks like the airforce one .. i have that one too in one desktop i manage |
| 23:23.43 | setner | gusto: http://pastebin.com/r0a7GYuK |
| 23:24.14 | raven | Dagger3: $IFACE should be in caps? |
| 23:24.15 | setner | gusto: thank you very much for your help by the way |
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| 23:24.26 | setner | I learned some commands I didn't know |
| 23:24.32 | setner | because of your help |
| 23:24.33 | setner | ;) |
| 23:24.39 | Dagger3 | raven: yeah, that's how I've done it in my /e/n/i... though you could probably just write eth0 and be done with it |
| 23:24.44 | gusto | setner: i ve seen this before |
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| 23:25.02 | debsucks | hello |
| 23:25.30 | debsucks | how do i login |
| 23:25.38 | Dagger3 | raven: oh, doh, forgot the netmasks: http://pastebin.com/wcYDrH9r |
| 23:25.44 | debsucks | i installed the cd |
| 23:25.44 | gusto | it seems to me like the airforce one ... we maybe have to remove the wl driver with rmmod wl again and put that old one into place with modprobe brcmsmac and then do iwlist scan and look what dmesg says again |
| 23:25.58 | debsucks | now when i boot it asks for a password |
| 23:26.09 | gusto | setner: but it would be better to give me the complete output of dmesg, not just the last linest |
| 23:26.09 | debsucks | i dont know the password |
| 23:26.17 | setner | gusto, ok |
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| 23:26.20 | gusto | setner: i would have it figured out by now |
| 23:26.21 | debsucks | help please asap |
| 23:26.24 | setner | 10 seconds |
| 23:26.26 | setner | sorry |
| 23:26.33 | themill | dpkg: tell debsucks about patience |
| 23:27.03 | debsucks | there is another window popping in my client now |
| 23:27.07 | debsucks | is it a virus |
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| 23:27.15 | abrotman | troll much ? |
| 23:27.16 | gusto | :-D |
| 23:27.25 | gusto | well, a virus does not open windows |
| 23:27.27 | debsucks | halp me |
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| 23:27.57 | themill | debsucks: how about using a few minutes away from #debian to remember the password you typed into the installer. |
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| 23:29.53 | gusto | setner: it looks like we are only missing the firmware |
| 23:30.14 | setner | gusto: here it is |
| 23:30.15 | setner | http://pastebin.com/r0a7GYuK |
| 23:30.19 | setner | ups, sorry |
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| 23:30.24 | setner | http://pastebin.ca/2105533 |
| 23:30.24 | gusto | setner: and you need an external antenna with a metre of 50 ohm cable |
| 23:31.10 | setner | gusto: what?!! :| |
| 23:31.13 | setner | an antenna? |
| 23:31.40 | gusto | [ 3294.124059] atl1c 0000:02:00.0: vpd r/w failed. This is likely a firmware bug on this device. Contact the card vendor for a firmware update. |
| 23:31.44 | gusto | well |
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| 23:32.13 | gusto | which driver is in use now? |
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| 23:33.07 | gusto | setner: is it a pci card? |
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| 23:33.49 | setner | atl1c is the driver in use for the wired card |
| 23:34.11 | setner | wl is the driver for the wireless card |
| 23:34.12 | gusto | ah |
| 23:34.15 | gusto | ok |
| 23:34.23 | gusto | and what does iwlist scan say? |
| 23:34.36 | setner | No scan results |
| 23:35.06 | gusto | setner: is the card on? |
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| 23:35.18 | setner | but now I have 3 wireless networks showing up, although none of them is the one I want to connect to |
| 23:35.24 | gusto | setner: try to set it an ip address with ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.2 |
| 23:35.29 | gusto | setner: try to set it an ip address with ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.2 up |
| 23:36.02 | gusto | setner: ok |
| 23:36.07 | gusto | so you have some |
| 23:36.14 | gusto | oh god |
| 23:36.17 | gusto | that can be so much |
| 23:36.18 | setner | gusto: right |
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| 23:36.44 | setner | i've set IP without error |
| 23:37.15 | gusto | to me it seems like the antenna is somehow distorting its own signal |
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| 23:37.39 | gusto | is it a pci card with rpsma connector? |
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| 23:38.50 | setner | gusto: sorry for my ignorance but how can I know that? I have a EeePC 1215N |
| 23:38.58 | gusto | ah |
| 23:39.04 | gusto | eeepc |
| 23:39.06 | setner | I don't even know what a rpsma connector is |
| 23:39.14 | gusto | o kok |
| 23:39.16 | gusto | ok ok |
| 23:39.33 | setner | :) |
| 23:40.14 | gusto | i do not know any more, and with that old brcmsmac driver you did not get any wlan networks right? |
| 23:40.49 | teratoma | i cant figure out why dput is hanging here, any ideas?: http://pastebin.com/8L6Q7Ltd |
| 23:41.02 | setner | well, I got a list and the one from my home network appeared but I couldn't connect to it |
| 23:41.12 | gusto | maybe he did not find the right firmware .. did you install the broadcom firmware packages? |
| 23:41.47 | gusto | setner: do you have the non-free repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 23:42.25 | setner | gusto: yes to both |
| 23:42.33 | gusto | hm |
| 23:42.39 | gusto | i do not know |
| 23:42.46 | setner | I installed everything as is in here: http://wiki.debian.org/wl#Wheezy |
| 23:42.53 | gusto | i am sure i would figure it out, but not over the irc |
| 23:43.09 | setner | :) |
| 23:43.15 | setner | thanks anyway |
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| 23:43.26 | setner | I'll try to see online for more info |
| 23:43.36 | setner | and tell you if I got lucky |
| 23:43.56 | setner | if you happen to be on irc |
| 23:44.07 | gusto | did you also do "# modprobe -r b44 b43 b43legacy ssb brcmsmac"? |
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| 23:45.28 | gusto | it says that your device is supported by both ... so you are lucky :-D |
| 23:45.32 | spersaud | how do you configure alsa or oss ? |
| 23:45.45 | gusto | OSS is obsolete |
| 23:45.50 | gusto | no one should use it |
| 23:46.05 | wald0 | privative applications like to use it |
| 23:46.22 | gusto | hmm |
| 23:46.24 | gusto | however |
| 23:46.28 | gusto | i am going to sleep |
| 23:46.29 | abrotman | !enter |
| 23:46.29 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 23:46.31 | gusto | good night |
| 23:46.35 | spersaud | how do I reconfigure alsa ? |
| 23:46.41 | spersaud | sound on my laptop just died |
| 23:48.29 | setner | good night to all |
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| 23:49.33 | wald0 | spersaud: good question, i know that there's "alsaconf" in the past but now... i have no idea |
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| 23:57.58 | bluesky | Hi: Will Debian 64bit install on Intel Core i3 computer? |
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| 23:58.41 | spersaud | this is my output from speaker-test |
| 23:58.43 | spersaud | http://dpaste.org/BU34o/ |
| 23:59.05 | abrotman | bluesky: is the CPU 64bit capable ? |
| 23:59.39 | abrotman | spersaud: maybe unload/reload alsa and sound driver modules ? |
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