| 00:00.27 | Miesco_ | Looking for a audio interface |
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| 00:01.52 | GTRsdk | rww: do I have to format the drive in startup disk creator first? |
| 00:03.34 | abrotman | it's zcat, not dd |
| 00:03.43 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 00:03.43 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 00:03.49 | abrotman | see the uh .. debian.org URL there |
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| 00:04.25 | abrotman | oh, just cat, not even zcat |
| 00:04.26 | GTRsdk | abrotman: works with netinstaller? |
| 00:04.46 | abrotman | yep, used it multiple times |
| 00:05.06 | alfplayer | [C |
| 00:05.13 | alfplayer | sry |
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| 00:09.04 | GTRsdk | abrotman: does it work on Ubuntu computers? |
| 00:10.07 | Miesco_ | Is there a channel for audio? |
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| 00:10.37 | abrotman | GTRsdk: it should |
| 00:10.43 | abrotman | Miesco_: here or maybe #alsa |
| 00:10.58 | abrotman | did Miesco_ ask a question in here? |
| 00:10.58 | Miesco_ | kk |
| 00:11.04 | Miesco_ | abrotman: yea |
| 00:11.10 | Miesco_ | "Looking for a audio interface" |
| 00:11.21 | Miesco_ | Well thats not a question |
| 00:11.22 | alfplayer | Miesco_: is that hardware? if so, maybe #hardware |
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| 00:13.03 | abrotman | not a question at all |
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| 00:16.02 | IchEsseDichAuf | hi, i am looking for a logger, that show me all files touched by a process |
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| 00:17.53 | amphi | strace? |
| 00:18.15 | abrotman | like .. forever? or just once? |
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| 00:19.51 | IchEsseDichAuf | once |
| 00:21.05 | IchEsseDichAuf | strace is a bit overkill, i dont understand strace -e trace=write output |
| 00:22.42 | GTRsdk | the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator is working, so that is good. Thanks for the help! |
| 00:23.56 | GTRsdk | didn't work |
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| 00:25.15 | abrotman | uhm .. didn't we say to cat the ISO ? |
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| 00:27.15 | GTRsdk | I like GUIs and I could not get that to work |
| 00:27.43 | zutme | Ok, so I would like to upgrade a package on my squeeze system to a newer one that is not in the squeeze repos. So I followed the directions on backports.debian.org and added squeeze-backports to my /etc/apt/sources.list, but when I try "aptitude -t squeeze-backports install "package"" it's not finding the newer version. Any ideas? |
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| 00:29.00 | comradekingu | zutme: update first? |
| 00:29.01 | GTRsdk | unetbootin works |
| 00:29.22 | zutme | comradekingu, yeah I did. |
| 00:29.34 | GTRsdk | and... dpkg told me that unetbootin is in the repositories |
| 00:29.36 | GTRsdk | so |
| 00:29.42 | GTRsdk | debian is awesome :D |
| 00:30.15 | cdahmedeh | hello, debian squeeze not able to connect to internet, i can ping the local router just fine (192.168...) but nothing on the outside (example www.google.com), invoke-rc.d networking restart not helping, tried restarting udev aswell |
| 00:30.50 | zutme | How can I tell the version of packages that are in squeeze-backports |
| 00:31.06 | cdahmedeh | also tried unload/reloading ethernet driver (e1000) |
| 00:31.26 | dvs | zutme: apt-cache policy <package_name> |
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| 00:32.51 | zutme | So if a package is in wheezy and sid its not necessarily in backports? |
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| 00:33.17 | magyar | hi, does kde has a gui package manager in squeeze? |
| 00:33.18 | jelly-home | nope |
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| 00:39.05 | zutme | cdahmedeh, maybe a dns issue? |
| 00:39.15 | cdahmedeh | i think so aswell |
| 00:39.22 | cdahmedeh | uhm.. i just tryed using dhcp and it works |
| 00:39.34 | cdahmedeh | so it might be my /etc/network/interfaces files |
| 00:39.36 | cdahmedeh | taking a look at it |
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| 00:41.02 | cdahmedeh | just to make sure, i need to configure the gateway in both /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces right? |
| 00:41.36 | zutme | cdahmedeh, I believe so. I am using dhcp right now, but in the past I remember configuring resolv.conf |
| 00:42.52 | sammi` | does not resolve.conf only contain like google dns 0.0.0.0 something |
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| 00:43.26 | cdahmedeh | ok it was an incorrectly configured resolv.conf |
| 00:43.32 | cdahmedeh | my router's gateway is 192.168.1.253 |
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| 00:43.36 | cdahmedeh | dammit stupid me |
| 00:44.39 | abrotman | magyar: synaptic ? |
| 00:44.49 | dvs | !lart cdahmedeh |
| 00:44.49 | dpkg | stamps cdahmedeh on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 00:45.06 | cdahmedeh | lool |
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| 00:51.08 | Sean-Der | Does anyone have experience with OpenSSL |
| 00:51.22 | abrotman | lots of peple |
| 00:51.28 | Sean-Der | I am getting CSR invalid CN - does not contain at least one period. AND Common Name does not contain fully qualified domain name |
| 00:51.45 | Sean-Der | CN is your country code I though? |
| 00:51.54 | Dewi | no |
| 00:51.55 | abrotman | Common Name |
| 00:52.16 | Sean-Der | When generating your .CSR are never asked to specify your CN am I correct? |
| 00:52.35 | Dewi | Sean-Der: generally you would |
| 00:52.45 | jordanm | the CN should be your fqdn, eg. google.com |
| 00:52.59 | Dewi | Sean-Der: otherwise what are you requesting to be signed? could be anything |
| 00:53.13 | Dewi | Sean-Der: CAs don't give blank cheques... |
| 00:53.25 | Sean-Der | openssl req -new -newkey rsa:2048 -nodes -keyout *.soaring.key -out *.soaring.csr |
| 00:53.36 | Sean-Der | During this I was never asked for my FQDN |
| 00:53.43 | Dewi | Sean-Der: if we're talking server SSL then CN should be a FQDN |
| 00:54.02 | Dewi | Sean-Der: weren't you asked for CN? |
| 00:54.19 | Sean-Der | Dewi: I was never prompted for a CN |
| 00:54.45 | Sean-Der | I can try it again and tell you exactly what is happening |
| 00:55.07 | Dewi | Sean-Der: well it asks me |
| 00:55.20 | Dewi | Sean-Der: 6th question |
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| 00:55.31 | Sean-Der | Common Name (eg, YOUR name) |
| 00:55.35 | Sean-Der | This is where I give the FQDN |
| 00:55.37 | Sean-Der | ?? |
| 00:55.42 | Dewi | Sean-Der: yep |
| 00:55.46 | Sean-Der | I feel like an idiot :\ |
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| 00:56.10 | Sean-Der | I though it was looking for an administrative contact name |
| 00:56.26 | Dewi | Sean-Der: keep in mind certs can identify things other than web sites, but in this case, "you" is a site |
| 00:56.27 | jordanm | It asks for that too |
| 00:56.54 | magyar | abrotman: sure, i forgot about that, thanks |
| 00:57.10 | Sean-Der | Ok thank you for the help guys! I was starting to get worried there |
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| 01:01.15 | Dev0n | hey, what's the correct chmod for /tmp ? Currently I have drwxrwxrwx 2 root root, but I've started seeing unable to write to tmp error messages from php/mysql etc |
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| 01:02.03 | koollman | Dev0n: 1777 (not 777). or drwxrwxrwt |
| 01:03.32 | Dev0n | thanks |
| 01:03.35 | jordanm | the lack of sticky bit shouldn't cause failure to write messages |
| 01:03.42 | Dev0n | well about that |
| 01:03.48 | Dev0n | I have around 130k sess_ files in there |
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| 01:04.09 | Dev0n | I have tmpreaper on cron deleting anything not accesed in 72 hours |
| 01:04.20 | Dev0n | so not really cloggin up, but is 130k too many ? |
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| 01:05.34 | jordanm | if you don't have control over the broken applications that are spewing tons of files into tmp, you should impose an inode quota on the users doing it for /tmp |
| 01:06.04 | jordanm | if each time someone lists the files in tmp and gets 130k files, yeah, that can cause some performance issues |
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| 01:15.32 | Dev0n | yea jordanm, I made php increased the probability of garbage collection on php, shoud clear out more often now |
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| 01:34.35 | kruz | Does Debian have some sort of built-in firewall that I might have activated while trying to open a port via iptables? I am all of a sudden unable to connect to a game server with Wine and the only change I had made recently was modifying asoundrc and iptables /: |
| 01:34.53 | kruz | I mean, short of iptables (: |
| 01:35.19 | jordanm | iptables is the firewall. what rules did you add? |
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| 01:36.13 | kruz | I added -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 27015 -j ACCEPT ... /: you know what. let me make sure WOW doesn't use that port. |
| 01:36.52 | jordanm | an ACCEPT rule isn't going to cause a problem. have you added any REJECT rules at all? |
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| 01:37.00 | kruz | Nope |
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| 01:37.17 | jordanm | is the default policy ACCEPT? |
| 01:39.06 | twofish | I was gonna report a bug with Xorg, but reportbug tells me there is a new version in the repo |
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| 01:39.26 | twofish | but when I run aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade it says nothing to be upgraded |
| 01:39.41 | jordanm | twofish: what release are you running? |
| 01:39.45 | twofish | testing |
| 01:40.55 | twofish | I'm on xorg version 1.7.6+8 and report bug says there is a +9 |
| 01:41.19 | kruz | Jordannm, iptables -L shows accept for input, forward and output. I would assume it would have to be an outbound port that got blocked. but I don't see how I could have done it. /: I haven't run any upgrades |
| 01:41.36 | jordanm | ,version Xorg |
| 01:41.39 | judd | No package named 'Xorg' was found in i386. |
| 01:41.48 | jordanm | ,versions xserver-xorg |
| 01:41.49 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg on i386 -- lenny: 1:7.3+20; squeeze: 1:7.5+8; squeeze-backports: 1:7.6+8~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:7.6+8; sid: 1:7.6+9 |
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| 01:42.25 | twofish | does reportbug tell you about sid updates if you are running testing? |
| 01:42.26 | jordanm | twofish: it's in sid. you can wait a bit for it to migrate before filing your bug |
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| 01:42.47 | frhodes | I wish debian had more frequent releases. |
| 01:43.01 | twofish | I'll see if i can do a -t unstable |
| 01:43.05 | twofish | since it's a minor release |
| 01:43.08 | jordanm | twofish: it would probably prefer that you always file against the latest version, since what you are running now would soon be replaced by the sid version |
| 01:43.15 | jordanm | twofish: if there are no RC bugs that is |
| 01:43.17 | twofish | I have it in my sources.lst |
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| 01:44.27 | GTRsdk | I installed using the netinstaller, and I could not connect to the Internet. What can I do to connect? |
| 01:44.31 | twofish | yea it's just gonna pull xorg and xserver-xorg |
| 01:44.36 | jordanm | kruz: honestly, I always compile wine because of network issues with steam :\. I have always assumed that some things are removed from Debian's wine for DFSG reasons |
| 01:44.37 | tharkun | How can i search for a flight simulator or something that uses up a joystick? |
| 01:45.28 | GTRsdk | jordanm, DFSG? |
| 01:45.34 | kruz | Jordanm, it's just strange that it worked fine for almost a month, and then all of a sudden I can't connect. ]: I guess I can compile it, but people are waiting for me... I guess I need to *sigh* reboot into windows. |
| 01:45.44 | jordanm | GTRsdk: assuming that the reason for the connection failure is resolved now, eg. plugged in the cable, you could do something like dhclient eth0 for dhcp |
| 01:45.48 | jordanm | !dfsg |
| 01:45.48 | dpkg | DFSG is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which are explained at http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines . For a full list of DFSG-compatible/incompatible software licenses, see http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses |
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| 01:46.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | judd: versions wine |
| 01:46.35 | judd | Package: wine on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.1-1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; sid: 1.0.1-3.3; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 01:46.39 | jordanm | kruz: well, you could try a quick download of playonlinux from upstream. it comes with pre-compiled wine IIRC |
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| 01:46.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | doesn't look like any dfsg versions involved |
| 01:46.55 | GTRsdk | jordanm, I tried plugging in the cable and then running apt-get update, but nothing can be fetched |
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| 01:47.26 | jordanm | Kamping_Kaiser: perhaps just some --without-foo on the configure lines |
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| 01:47.40 | jordanm | GTRsdk: dhclient eth0 |
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| 01:48.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | jordanm: entirely possible |
| 01:49.06 | kruz | jordanm, thanks. I'll give that a shot. If nothing else I'll just recompile windows later |
| 01:49.10 | kruz | lol I mean wine |
| 01:49.34 | jordanm | I just know that from my experience, I have had much better luck with a version compiled to my homedir |
| 01:50.06 | kevmono | This is probably a terrible question and maybe I'm just wording it wrong in searches.. I type a long string into the command line and decide I don't want to execute it, then I hold down the backspace key and watch each character delete. Isn't there a way to just clear the entire line? A combination of keys or something.. |
| 01:50.19 | GTRsdk | does someone have to build new debs for wine 1.3? |
| 01:51.28 | kruz | kevmono, I usually ctrl c, or I'll press down or up if I have a shorter command. but it depends on which terminal you are in. |
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| 01:52.18 | kevmono | kruz: Ugh. Thank you for that, control c is exactly what I was looking for. I use terminator and it works perfect. |
| 01:52.26 | kruz | kevmono, alternatively if you want to keep the string on the screen just in case you want to execute it, you can hit the HOME key and type : echo |
| 01:53.08 | kevmono | kruz: You are the man, thank you for answering my question! |
| 01:53.10 | kruz | in front of the command and it will just echo the command and not actually execute anything. beware of |'s and > redirect's though... that could be bad |
| 01:53.22 | kruz | kevmono, np |
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| 01:54.40 | GTRsdk | jordanm, did not work |
| 01:54.55 | GTRsdk | command not found |
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| 01:55.02 | jordanm | GTRsdk: as root |
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| 01:57.31 | jordanm | kevmono: ctrl+a, ctrl+k is another option for bash with emacs-like bindings (default) |
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| 01:59.05 | GTRsdk | jordanm, that worked. But I can't install anything. For some reason, all of the sources.list entries ate wheezy/updates. What should they be? |
| 02:00.02 | jordanm | !tell GTRsdk about mirrors |
| 02:00.14 | jordanm | !tell GTRsdk about sources |
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| 02:01.10 | GTRsdk | so just wheezy main? |
| 02:01.57 | jordanm | if its a desktop system you will probably need contrib and non-free |
| 02:02.06 | jordanm | or atleast contrib for flash |
| 02:03.00 | kruz | jordanm, PlayOnLinux did the same thing. Thanks. I'll try recompiling wine or maybe dropping the rules from iptables that I added. There's maybe 10 commands from the time it was working to the time it stopped working. bash_history |
| 02:03.02 | kruz | night all |
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| 02:09.17 | lenswipe2 | hey guys |
| 02:09.26 | lenswipe2 | having issues with X11 forwarding - anyone able to help? |
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| 02:09.47 | lenswipe2 | Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0 |
| 02:09.59 | lenswipe2 | i get that when i try and open an app over ssh |
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| 02:10.14 | lenswipe2 | the local machine is windows 7 the remote is debian squeeze |
| 02:10.32 | zutme | So if there is a newer version of a package in sid, but its not in backports, can I just use the .deb files from packages.debian.org to install it and all of its dependencies, or is that a bad idea? |
| 02:11.53 | jordanm | zutme: probably a bad idea, since its often not possible to downgrade, and those packages will never be upgraded either |
| 02:12.04 | jordanm | zutme: so if there is a major security hole in one... |
| 02:12.34 | zutme | jordanm, ok, I can live with the old version I think |
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| 02:28.47 | teneightypea | Why would the command 'rm *.r*' remove everything inside a folder even if the files had endings beginning with other letters? |
| 02:29.35 | somiaj | teneightypea: you should do 'ls *.r*' first to see what the globbing catches |
| 02:29.48 | teneightypea | Yah, I haven't done anything yet. |
| 02:29.50 | somiaj | teneightypea: it will remove any fild that has a .r in it, be it at teh begining, end or middle. |
| 02:30.00 | teneightypea | I was just wondering why it caught the others. |
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| 02:30.05 | teneightypea | ah |
| 02:30.11 | teneightypea | :) |
| 02:30.21 | somiaj | teneightypea: again 'ls *.r*' and realize * can be any globe, it can be anything from nothing to whatever. its a wild card |
| 02:30.28 | somiaj | teneightypea: ? is like * but only for one character |
| 02:30.36 | somiaj | so maybe you want 'ls *.r??' |
| 02:30.41 | teneightypea | :) |
| 02:30.51 | teneightypea | I think that is a much better idea. |
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| 02:33.20 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 02:33.27 | lenswipe | can someone help me with X11 forwarding |
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| 02:33.44 | karlpinc | lenswipe: You'd have to tell us your problem. |
| 02:33.50 | lenswipe | ive enabled it in /etc/ssh/sshd_config but i still get "cannot open display localhost:0" |
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| 02:34.02 | lenswipe | when i try and run the program remotely that is |
| 02:34.06 | Dewi | lenswipe: using ssh -X ? |
| 02:34.08 | karlpinc | lenswipe: You restarted the daemon? |
| 02:34.19 | lenswipe | Dewi: this is from a windows machine using putty |
| 02:34.28 | lenswipe | karlpinc: yep - hell ive restarted the computer |
| 02:34.29 | dbb | hi - I have a server that I just rebooted.. there is not monitor attached.. I run `vncserver` and connect, but some system utils wont run, saying they can run on display <whatever> How can I run these utils - what display variable do I send them ? |
| 02:34.33 | Dewi | lenswipe: it has a checkbox you need to tick |
| 02:34.39 | lenswipe | Dewi: its ticked |
| 02:35.07 | karlpinc | lenswipe: What do the logs say? Crank up the verbosity on both ends. |
| 02:35.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | lenswipe: what application? |
| 02:35.20 | lenswipe | i have no logs on the windows end but ill check the ssh logs |
| 02:35.26 | lenswipe | Kamping_Kaiser: xeyes |
| 02:35.56 | karlpinc | dbb: Does xeyes work? That's always what I test with. (Some work and some don't? That's odd.) |
| 02:36.08 | dbb | karlpinc: yes, xeyes just worked |
| 02:36.13 | lenswipe | karlpinc: nope |
| 02:36.22 | lenswipe | i get that "could not open dispaly localhost:10.0" crap |
| 02:36.23 | lenswipe | >: { |
| 02:36.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | 10.0? |
| 02:36.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | lenswipe: check .xsession-errrors for clues |
| 02:36.43 | Dewi | lenswipe: that's very different from 0 |
| 02:36.50 | Dewi | lenswipe: what x server you running? |
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| 02:37.06 | lenswipe | Dewi: xorg |
| 02:37.15 | lenswipe | Kamping_Kaiser: where is that? |
| 02:37.22 | Dewi | lenswipe: in windows? cygwin? |
| 02:37.32 | lenswipe | putty under windows 7 |
| 02:37.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | lenswipe: in the users home |
| 02:37.40 | lenswipe | Kamping_Kaiser: ok |
| 02:37.44 | Dewi | lenswipe: putty is not an xserver |
| 02:37.56 | Dewi | lenswipe: do you have an x server on the target machine? |
| 02:37.56 | karlpinc | lenswipe: The remote side is already running X? It sounds like your $DISPLAY is not right, but that's a guess. Logs will tell you the answer. If you don't want to read them you could try using say nc to shove packets through and watch via tcpdump or something. But why? |
| 02:38.01 | lenswipe | Dewi: i know |
| 02:38.11 | lenswipe | Dewi: i told you im running xorg and yes i do |
| 02:38.14 | lenswipe | Dewi: unless you mean GDM |
| 02:38.19 | lenswipe | karlpinc: yes |
| 02:38.21 | Dewi | lenswipe: what xorg runs in windows? |
| 02:38.24 | asdjaputra | kernel.org back upp!!!1 |
| 02:38.25 | Dewi | lenswipe: cygwin? |
| 02:38.28 | karlpinc | lenswipe: He means on the MS side. |
| 02:38.37 | lenswipe | Dewi: how do i know? |
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| 02:38.47 | Dewi | lenswipe: cause you claim you installed it? |
| 02:38.47 | lenswipe | Dewi: im not running an xorg in windows wtf are you on about? |
| 02:38.58 | Dewi | lenswipe: *you need an xserver to display things* |
| 02:39.04 | lenswipe | i know |
| 02:39.10 | Guest8749 | jordanm, thanks for the help! |
| 02:39.10 | karlpinc | dbb: Then some of your apps are not picking up $DISPLAY. Which is odd. |
| 02:39.12 | Dewi | lenswipe: on the machine you are displaying on! not some other machine |
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| 02:39.29 | karlpinc | lenswipe: You need X running to run the screen and keyboard. Not to run the app. |
| 02:39.39 | dbb | karlpinc: echo $DISPLAY returns :1.0 |
| 02:39.40 | gtrsdk2 | jordanm, thanks |
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| 02:39.48 | lenswipe | Dewi: so you're saying i need an x server on the client? |
| 02:39.52 | Dewi | lenswipe: yes |
| 02:40.01 | dbb | I tried sudo palimpsest --display=1.0 but that doesnt work |
| 02:40.04 | lenswipe | does the normal windows GUI count? |
| 02:40.08 | Dewi | lenswipe: no |
| 02:40.12 | Dewi | lenswipe: I recommend xming |
| 02:40.20 | lenswipe | so why does no other tutorial on the internet mention this? |
| 02:40.29 | karlpinc | ddb: You could try explictly setting --display. But you say admin tools. When you're root you lose access to X, iirc. |
| 02:40.30 | dbb | I can fix this by rebooting with a phyisical monitor attached, but I was hoping to learn how to do it |
| 02:40.30 | Dewi | lenswipe: they all do |
| 02:40.35 | Dewi | lenswipe: which one are you using? :P |
| 02:40.37 | lenswipe | ive been googling for ages and looking at youtube and none of them mentioned this |
| 02:40.45 | dbb | karlpinc: gparted and or palimpsest |
| 02:40.49 | lenswipe | Dewi: well as a quick example i just watched this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNuXpk10zXE |
| 02:41.06 | lenswipe | its not very in-depth but it goes over the client side and it never mentions xming |
| 02:41.09 | Dewi | lenswipe: "This screencast details how to forward X11 over SSH using Putty and Xming" |
| 02:41.27 | lenswipe | it never talks about xming |
| 02:41.38 | lenswipe | watch the video |
| 02:41.41 | gtrsdk2 | how do I connect it to the internet? |
| 02:41.52 | Dewi | lenswipe: it has it in the system tray |
| 02:41.54 | gtrsdk2 | do I have to install some network manager? |
| 02:42.04 | lenswipe | Dewi: im expected to see that? |
| 02:42.05 | Dewi | lenswipe: that black X thing |
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| 02:42.53 | lenswipe | Dewi: apparently i need a donor password to download website releases |
| 02:42.53 | karlpinc | dbb: Your app must chroot itself. Otherwise you use, or I have used, xhost. There's probably a better way to do it but I've forgotten. |
| 02:42.57 | lenswipe | what a load of crap |
| 02:43.05 | Dewi | lenswipe: anyway, that's how it works. in X terms the app is a client and the display is provided by a server |
| 02:43.16 | lenswipe | ok |
| 02:43.20 | Dewi | lenswipe: nah that's just the latest ones, there's a free one |
| 02:43.29 | karlpinc | lenswipe: There's a free X for windows. |
| 02:43.46 | lenswipe | ok |
| 02:44.01 | karlpinc | !tell gtrsdk2 about interfaces |
| 02:44.04 | dbb | xhost looks frustrating and error prone :-/ I am just going to reboot with a monitor.. thx for the replies though |
| 02:44.09 | Dewi | lenswipe: use one of the ones under "public domain releases" |
| 02:44.26 | lenswipe | ok |
| 02:44.28 | lenswipe | so it should work now? |
| 02:44.32 | Dewi | lenswipe: other options are x-win32 (commercial) and cygwin (open source but much harder to get working, and less stable in my experience) |
| 02:44.41 | karlpinc | Dewi: Ah. try the facotid. |
| 02:44.59 | karlpinc | dbb: Oops. That was for you. |
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| 02:45.03 | karlpinc | !tell dbb about xhost |
| 02:45.35 | dbb | karlpinc: haha - I guessed it! |
| 02:45.37 | dbb | thx |
| 02:45.43 | Dewi | lenswipe: I think so. it's been a while since I used it but I'm pretty sure xming defaults to using the default display number, so putty will default to it too |
| 02:45.51 | lenswipe | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.54 | Dewi | lenswipe: like 10.0 |
| 02:46.18 | Dewi | lenswipe: np |
| 02:46.22 | karlpinc | dbb: I think xhost is safe with a regular user and via localhost..., that's how I've used it. (Well, it's not safe, but it's not insane either.) |
| 02:46.38 | lenswipe | dont spose there is a way to get it to use my GDM theme is there? |
| 02:46.44 | lenswipe | the apps look kinda crappy when i run them |
| 02:47.04 | Dewi | lenswipe: well the window border will inherit from windows |
| 02:47.12 | lenswipe | yeah thats cool |
| 02:47.15 | Dewi | lenswipe: you could probably run GDM itself as a windows window |
| 02:47.18 | lenswipe | i mean the actual controls in the app |
| 02:47.19 | lenswipe | cool |
| 02:47.20 | Dewi | lenswipe: and then other apps inside it |
| 02:47.22 | lenswipe | ill try that |
| 02:47.25 | karlpinc | lenswipe: Not when you're running indivdiual apps. Another good approch is to tunnel vnc. Say, via the x11vnc app. |
| 02:47.29 | Dewi | lenswipe: sorry not gdm |
| 02:47.32 | Dewi | lenswipe: I mean gnome |
| 02:47.39 | lenswipe | ah |
| 02:47.49 | Dewi | lenswipe: like you can probably type 'gnome-session &' in bash |
| 02:47.50 | karlpinc | lenswipe: With vnc you get the whole desktop. |
| 02:48.22 | Dewi | lenswipe: might take some fiddling to figure out exactly how it works |
| 02:49.26 | Dewi | vnc tends to be faster especially over limited bandwidth, plus you can detach & reattach which X is not good at |
| 02:49.26 | karlpinc | lenswipe: Then also you don't need the local X. It all depends on what you want. You can also run, say, cygwin to get X. Cygwin might or might not have your wm/desktop ported to it. |
| 02:49.57 | Dewi | lenswipe: karlpinc is right. I often have machines with no monitor, I just install xbase-clients and no xorg and use xming |
| 02:50.04 | lenswipe | this is pretty cool |
| 02:50.21 | karlpinc | lenswipe: And I agree with Dewi! He's right too! Vnc is much better at bandwidth compression. |
| 02:50.32 | lenswipe | yeah but its only my local LAN :p |
| 02:50.40 | lenswipe | and everyone else is in bed heh |
| 02:50.48 | Dewi | yeah X is meant to be fine over LAN |
| 02:50.54 | Dewi | but you've still got ssh introducing a little buffering |
| 02:50.55 | lenswipe | thanks guys |
| 02:50.55 | lenswipe | ^_^ |
| 02:51.01 | Dewi | either way I find it a bit slow, always |
| 02:51.03 | dbb | vnc++ |
| 02:51.36 | karlpinc | lenswipe: The other cool vnc thing is, if you've got the tech-fu you can have your vnc session follow you from box to box. (As Dewi mentioned -- detaching and reattaching.) |
| 02:51.38 | Dewi | I wonder if Wayland will be better at remoting |
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| 02:52.07 | Dewi | (assuming it ever gets off the ground. I haven't heard about it in a while) |
| 02:52.23 | Dewi | are ubuntu still aiming to switch to it? |
| 02:53.10 | Dewi | karlpinc: it's particularly nice now with vnc4 having xrandr |
| 02:53.27 | Dewi | karlpinc: not that it's obvious how to get that working, I probably should blog or factoid it or something |
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| 02:54.06 | Dewi | also for me clipboard sharing never worked until vnc4 |
| 02:54.22 | karlpinc | Dewi: facotid + url if necessary would help the most people. (I tend to drop such stuff on the debian wiki. Depends.) |
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| 02:55.34 | dbb | vnc4 ? |
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| 02:56.35 | Dewi | dbb: Package vnc4server |
| 02:56.43 | karlpinc | I'm using X over the lan right now. Have for years. But I notice with squeeze that, basically, it sucks. The scroll bars can't be clicked on without repeated scrolling happening. Windows take forever to scroll. It could be my crappy video card -- I'm pretty sure that's it. For some reason it's lots more cpu intensive on the thin client. |
| 02:57.08 | Dewi | dbb: it's a VNC-only xserver, way better than the other older packages |
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| 02:57.14 | karlpinc | Basically, the X server is cpu bound and that makes it suck. |
| 02:57.20 | dbb | ah right - I had to figure out the 4 as a new user 4 years ago.. but I have always used 4 |
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| 02:57.54 | Dewi | karlpinc: xming does tend to go into cpu-hogging loops sometimes. Never figured out what triggered it. Even happens when I'm not using it sometimes |
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| 02:58.41 | Dewi | dbb: I'm living in the past |
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| 02:59.20 | Dewi | when you get old like me (late 20s) even debian releases don't seem far apart anymore |
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| 02:59.38 | dbb | LOL |
| 03:00.15 | dbb | I wrote a lot of code before I had a hard drive.. and most of my good C code on a 68020 at 16Mhz :p |
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| 03:02.23 | karlpinc | dbb: 68020s rocked. But it's for #debian-offtopic. |
| 03:03.20 | dbb | not to worry - I rebooted Debian6 with an attaached monitor, and am now partiioning this new disk |
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| 03:04.12 | karlpinc | dbb: The "right way", for many values of "right", is a serial console. |
| 03:04.31 | dbb | already done, rebooting ;-) |
| 03:04.34 | GTRsdk2 | do I have to setup some firmware stuff to use my wireless internet card? |
| 03:04.53 | karlpinc | GTRsdk2: Probably. what's the pciid? |
| 03:05.35 | karlpinc | !tell GTRsdk2 about firmware |
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| 03:06.06 | Dewi | karlpinc: hey, another PC running terminal software counts as a serial terminal right? |
| 03:06.09 | GTRsdk2 | I think firmware-linux-free and firmware-linux-nonfree will do the trick |
| 03:06.11 | GTRsdk2 | will brb |
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| 03:06.18 | karlpinc | Dewi: Sure. |
| 03:06.19 | Dewi | karlpinc: does the cable need to be a null modem in that case? |
| 03:06.26 | karlpinc | Dewi: Yes. |
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| 03:06.39 | karlpinc | GTRsdk2: Most likely. |
| 03:06.47 | Dewi | karlpinc: must give that a go sometime |
| 03:07.08 | Dewi | karlpinc: I run a lot of headless machines and swapping keyboards and monitors around is stupid |
| 03:07.13 | karlpinc | Dewi: It's a must for remote boot problems. |
| 03:07.39 | karlpinc | Dewi: Get a usb to serial converter with multiple serial ports. |
| 03:08.11 | karlpinc | Dewi: No cable swapping at all. |
| 03:08.17 | Dewi | karlpinc: yeah. nice |
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| 03:19.16 | GTRsdk2 | now I am on Debian, but I cannot connect to wifi |
| 03:19.42 | GTRsdk2 | how do I setup the wireless card and set it to scan for a network? |
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| 03:20.33 | Dewi | GTRsdk2: what kind of crypto does the network use? WPA? |
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| 03:21.03 | GTRsdk2 | I have an unsecured network to connect to and a WPA(2 I think) to connect to |
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| 03:22.07 | OldParr | machine boots ok the boot menu responds ok , but responds blindly with no video, when it gets to the logging screen it recovers video after some key pressing, it happens equally on windows XP or Debian (DUAL BOOT) |
| 03:22.13 | Dewi | GTRsdk2: does ifconfig -a list your wifi \network adapter? |
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| 03:22.42 | GTRsdk2 | Dewi, as root or normal user? |
| 03:22.45 | Dewi | OldParr: sounds a bit like power management gone nuts... |
| 03:22.48 | Dewi | GTRsdk2: root |
| 03:22.49 | GTRsdk2 | normal: command not found |
| 03:23.29 | GTRsdk2 | I'm not sure. I have eth0 and lo. |
| 03:23.34 | OldParr | Dewi: do you mean bios or debian power managing? |
| 03:23.38 | GTRsdk2 | eth0 is obviously ethernet |
| 03:23.53 | Dewi | OldParr: either or both I guess :P |
| 03:24.11 | Dewi | GTRsdk2: lo is localhost, not your wifi |
| 03:24.21 | GTRsdk2 | okay |
| 03:24.26 | Dewi | GTRsdk2: sounds like you'll need a kernel module |
| 03:24.33 | Dewi | GTRsdk2: what's the wireless chipset? |
| 03:24.49 | GTRsdk2 | not sure exactly, but I remember broadcom |
| 03:25.09 | GTRsdk2 | the netbook is an Acer AOD255 |
| 03:25.44 | Dewi | GTRsdk2: see if you can find it in lspci |
| 03:26.33 | GTRsdk2 | BCM4323 |
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| 03:27.20 | OldParr | machine boots ok the boot menu responds ok , but responds blindly with no video, when it gets to the logging screen it recovers video after some key pressing, it happens equally on windows XP or Debian (DUAL BOOT) |
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| 03:27.30 | GTRsdk2 | looks like this is what I need: http://wiki.debian.org/wl#Wheezy |
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| 03:36.58 | twofish | well I gave up |
| 03:37.02 | twofish | and submitted der bug |
| 03:37.04 | twofish | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=644350 |
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| 03:40.09 | OldParr | machine boots ok the boot menu responds ok , but responds blindly with no video, when it gets to the logging screen it recovers video after some key pressing, it happens equally on windows XP or Debian (DUAL BOOT) |
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| 03:43.53 | GTRsdk2 | Dewi, Thanks for the help! |
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| 03:44.27 | Dewi | GTRsdk2: np |
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| 04:03.16 | chrissbx | Is there a way to "kill" existing TCP connections? (Without stopping new ones from being made) |
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| 04:04.18 | chrissbx | I'm frequently finding myself with a browser or two with google maps or gmail (or maybe other ajax apps) loaded when I move between networks. |
| 04:04.43 | chrissbx | Then these apps just block "endlessly" (I suppose they'll timeout after 10 minutes or whatever; just too long for me to wait). |
| 04:05.11 | chrissbx | Instead of reopening the websites, could I do something else to timeout the connections immediately so that the apps simply reconnect? |
| 04:05.42 | chrissbx | I suppose this "should" be the default if the IP on the interfaces (or the route or so) changes, but, I'd be happy with just a manual kcik. |
| 04:05.44 | chrissbx | kick |
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| 04:18.36 | Accelerator | Does libjpeg install with shared support? |
| 04:19.08 | Accelerator | Is libjpeg build with --enable-shared* |
| 04:19.26 | Accelerator | built*.. half asleep, heh. |
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| 04:21.25 | chrissbx | Accelerator: well, non-shared libraries are in -dev packages. So this should mean, according to my understanding, that yes, the non-dev package will have been built with --enable-shared. |
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| 04:22.06 | chrissbx | Or put differently, if you've got a .so file, it's shared, so if libjpeg needs --enable-shared to build a .so then yes. But maybe I misunderstood your question. |
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| 04:36.08 | acu_ | some stupid questions - I have an usb mounted as root as following: mount /dev/usb /home/acu/usbmagic --- I can browse it as root but not as user - two questions - what do I need to do to browse it as user - what group I need to add the normal user so it can mount usb sticks ? |
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| 04:37.03 | somiaj | acu_: what file system. if its vfat you can use -o uid=username |
| 04:37.16 | somiaj | acu_: so mount /dev/usb /home/acu/usbmagic -o uid=username |
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| 04:39.23 | acu_ | somiaj: if it is ext4 ? |
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| 04:40.20 | Dewi | acu_: you're conflating two issues, who mounts and who has access to the filesystem |
| 04:40.56 | acu_ | Dewi and somiajthe usb stick is formated as ext4 |
| 04:41.00 | somiaj | acu_: if the file system is really ext4 on the usb drive once its mounted you can just use standard chmod/chown tools to control access. |
| 04:41.01 | Dewi | acu_: root can mount, sometimes automatically, or users can mount via fuse. But root mounted FSes can be made accessible to everyone |
| 04:41.28 | Dewi | acu_: ext4 permissions should just work |
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| 04:42.03 | acu_ | so if I am root: what should I add instead of -o option ? |
| 04:42.06 | Dewi | acu_: except if you're sharing between systems your user and group ids might not match |
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| 04:43.35 | somiaj | acu_: if its ext4, manage the primisions with chown/chmod like any other ext4 file system. You only need special options with file systems that don't have the unix like file prmisison structure. such as vfat |
| 04:44.09 | Dewi | acu_: 'other' should work no matter what system tho |
| 04:44.36 | Dewi | acu_: or you could make a group with a known id on all the systems involved... |
| 04:45.08 | somiaj | yea if you mount it on various computers they best have the same id numbers or things will look funy when you swap it |
| 04:45.14 | Dewi | (some people even sync their user ids but that obviously takes planning) |
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| 04:51.41 | acu_ | it is possible that I have some screwy ext4 permissions - other usb sticks work - this one can be seen only if I mounted and browse it as root - some weirdy things I should have done |
| 04:51.56 | Es0teric | anyone here good with proftpd? |
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| 04:53.10 | holben | is 'iw' the replacement for 'wireless-tools'? |
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| 04:54.13 | acu_ | Es0teric: just ask the question - maybe you are lucky today |
| 04:54.47 | Es0teric | ok, i have a proftpd server running.. and for some reason, when i try to transfer files, it fails automatically |
| 04:54.51 | acu_ | OK, I look at the permissions for the folders in the usb which only root can access and they are 1000 1000 on the other one is acu acu |
| 04:55.00 | karlpinc | Dewi: Syncing uids is a job for ldap or it's peers. |
| 04:55.23 | acu_ | Es0teric: did you enabled TLS ? |
| 04:55.24 | holben | when i '/msg dpkg iw', i get factoid for 'iceweasel'! |
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| 04:55.39 | Es0teric | acu_ i think so, how do i check for that? |
| 04:55.49 | acu_ | there is a GUI for PROFTPD - is something like GADMIN |
| 04:56.09 | acu_ | you first need to add some password and enable TLS otherwise it does not work |
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| 04:57.17 | Dewi | karlpinc: way too incomprehensible to be worth it on my scale |
| 04:57.27 | Es0teric | acu_ its a remote server |
| 04:57.43 | acu_ | so just search Synaptic Package manager for GADMIn and see the proftpd tool associated with it (GADMIN has Samba and other servers that can be managed) install it start it and you will see there at the server scroll down towards the middle and there is something like TLS activate or something |
| 04:57.56 | acu_ | Oh - I see - |
| 04:58.17 | acu_ | I do not know then - only what I said |
| 05:01.06 | acu_ | somiaj and Dewi: so uid might me the problem - different in different systems - I might have created the ext4 usb stick on a Scientific Linux or Debian - just forgot - but the the uid is 1000 in one and acu in the one which works - however thanks a bunch to all |
| 05:01.53 | somiaj | acu_: can you give us the output of 'mount' at paste.debian.net |
| 05:01.55 | Dewi | acu_: both will be numbers internally |
| 05:02.06 | Dewi | acu_: the system just shows you the name if such a user exists |
| 05:02.57 | Dewi | acu_: so rather than changing your ids around to make them match, I recommend working with a defined-gid group or just use 'other' |
| 05:03.37 | Dewi | acu_: you can see your own id with - echo $UID |
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| 05:08.27 | acu_ | /dev/sdd on /home/acu/usbmagic type ext4 (rw,uid=500) [usb_8GB_stick] |
| 05:08.50 | acu_ | This works /dev/sdc1 on /media/0870-EF1C type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=500,gid=500,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush) |
| 05:09.00 | acu_ | the first one does not - Dewi |
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| 05:10.18 | Dewi | acu_: internally, vfat has no concept of users, which is why people apply ownership at mount-time |
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| 05:10.36 | Dewi | acu_: ext4 does have a concept of users, but they are numeric |
| 05:10.43 | acu_ | I see the uid for acu is -500 |
| 05:11.52 | Dewi | acu_: yes, but that is not necessarily the same on other computers |
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| 05:12.36 | Dewi | acu_: so if you want to keep moving the USB between computers, you need to device on a user or group with a common ID, or use "other" |
| 05:12.50 | acu_ | Dewi: nice insights :) |
| 05:12.54 | Dewi | acu_: you need to decide, even |
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| 05:13.20 | acu_ | Never thought that for ext4 I have to be more mindful |
| 05:13.32 | Es0teric | acu_ TLS is on |
| 05:13.58 | acu_ | Es0teric: you need to generate a certificate |
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| 05:14.27 | acu_ | the GUI would have had a choice and a button to create a certificate - then everything works |
| 05:14.40 | acu_ | you can do it from CLI but I forgot |
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| 05:16.10 | acu_ | Nothing is Esoteric in computers :) |
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| 05:16.28 | X0Rc0re | hello |
| 05:16.36 | acu_ | hello |
| 05:16.41 | X0Rc0re | anyone here interested in softwar/network security? |
| 05:16.46 | X0Rc0re | software* |
| 05:16.47 | acu_ | lol |
| 05:16.53 | acu_ | are you a salesman |
| 05:17.00 | X0Rc0re | haha no |
| 05:17.04 | acu_ | ask your technical question |
| 05:17.07 | X0Rc0re | just wandering |
| 05:17.14 | X0Rc0re | i asked it already |
| 05:17.37 | acu_ | what do you want |
| 05:17.45 | acu_ | what do you try to accomplish |
| 05:18.40 | X0Rc0re | help |
| 05:18.43 | X0Rc0re | with our site |
| 05:18.44 | acu_ | X0Rc0re: first you have to have the software and the network, then worry about security |
| 05:19.03 | X0Rc0re | its about our site |
| 05:19.12 | acu_ | so you are not a salesman, you want someone to secure your site ? |
| 05:19.27 | X0Rc0re | yes, and to help mamnage our site |
| 05:19.31 | X0Rc0re | basically an admin |
| 05:19.50 | X0Rc0re | and who has some sought of programming knowledge |
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| 05:20.18 | acu_ | here people are helping if you have a technical concrete questions - if you want consultants - half of this people are gurus |
| 05:20.30 | X0Rc0re | :) |
| 05:20.38 | X0Rc0re | so there will be someone who can help me? |
| 05:20.48 | acu_ | of course |
| 05:20.57 | X0Rc0re | right now? |
| 05:20.59 | somiaj | if you have a debian related support question just ask. |
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| 05:25.59 | Es0teric | acu, i get this -> Starting ftp server: proftpd - warning: "Amalgam" address/port (ip:21) already in use by "ProFTPD" |
| 05:26.08 | Es0teric | acu_ why do i get that? |
| 05:26.40 | claw | Es0teric, is ProFTPD already running in an instance ? |
| 05:26.49 | Es0teric | claw, i have no idea.. |
| 05:27.08 | claw | killall proftpd |
| 05:27.43 | claw | or check if the port is already use (netstat -a | grep 21) |
| 05:27.50 | Es0teric | ProFTPD: no process killed |
| 05:28.36 | Es0teric | claw, there are things running |
| 05:28.42 | Es0teric | but how do i tell which one is proftpd |
| 05:28.43 | Es0teric | ? |
| 05:28.50 | acu_ | Es0teric: there are two ways to run Proftpd - as a inetd daemon or as standalone |
| 05:29.01 | acu_ | as much as I remember |
| 05:29.03 | Es0teric | acu_, i am running it as standalone |
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| 05:33.56 | acu_ | Ex0teric: I think you should see if two instances run - top or htop and if there are two - shut down proftpd and then make sure you have the TLS on and you have generated a certificate |
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| 05:35.56 | Es0teric | acu_ how do i do that? |
| 05:37.20 | acu_ | Es0teric: unfortunately I do not know - only through GUI as I said - perhaps you can google it ? |
| 05:38.07 | acu_ | I told you from GADMIN Proftpd there is a server panel where you have to click a button which generates the certificate |
| 05:38.41 | acu_ | potentially you can connect through ssh -X |
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| 05:41.35 | Es0teric | acu_ i do connect through sftp.. but for some reason that gives me problems too |
| 05:42.02 | acu_ | Oh |
| 05:42.10 | acu_ | what kind of problems |
| 05:42.18 | Es0teric | permission problems |
| 05:42.36 | acu_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.55 | acu_ | what is the OS you are accessing ? |
| 05:43.12 | acu_ | some RedHat, Centos or Scientific Linux ? |
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| 05:43.33 | acu_ | they have firewall and SElinux enabled by default |
| 05:43.42 | acu_ | Es0teric |
| 05:44.48 | Es0teric | acu_ before everything was working fine |
| 05:45.08 | acu_ | so you need to edit IP tables and /etc/selinux and edit config |
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| 05:45.35 | acu_ | what exactly OS do you access |
| 05:45.43 | Es0teric | acu_ debian lenny |
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| 05:46.15 | acu_ | do you have ssh access |
| 05:46.19 | acu_ | do a |
| 05:46.20 | acu_ | top |
| 05:46.29 | acu_ | and see whether anything is zombie |
| 05:46.43 | acu_ | it will tell you if some process is screwed |
| 05:47.12 | Es0teric | acu_ i am logged in through the terminal via ssh |
| 05:47.25 | acu_ | great then type to |
| 05:47.27 | acu_ | top |
| 05:47.39 | Es0teric | acu_ what am i looking for? |
| 05:48.08 | acu_ | processes which consume too much memory or CPU - see proftpd there ? |
| 05:48.35 | acu_ | there are some other means to see what services run |
| 05:48.50 | Es0teric | acu_ there are 0 zombie |
| 05:49.09 | Es0teric | and no proftpd is not on here |
| 05:49.13 | acu_ | did you restart proftpd |
| 05:49.19 | Es0teric | yes |
| 05:49.31 | acu_ | I forgot but is something like /etc/init.d/proftpd stop |
| 05:49.49 | acu_ | did you get any messages |
| 05:49.53 | acu_ | type dmesg |
| 05:50.03 | acu_ | go and check your /var/log |
| 05:50.10 | acu_ | see for system |
| 05:50.22 | acu_ | proftpd may have its own log |
| 05:51.04 | jsoft | tries to get good old quake1 going :) |
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| 05:55.55 | Es0teric | acu_ i found the log |
| 05:56.46 | acu_ | god job |
| 05:56.51 | acu_ | there are some errors |
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| 05:57.01 | acu_ | usually it tells you what is the matter |
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| 05:58.19 | Es0teric | acu_ now the ssh top tells me that theres 1 zombie |
| 05:58.47 | acu_ | what is the process |
| 05:59.03 | Es0teric | well it went away now.. |
| 05:59.06 | acu_ | there is a name for it and as I said check the dmesg |
| 05:59.12 | acu_ | and error logs |
| 05:59.19 | acu_ | for system and for proftpd |
| 05:59.23 | Es0teric | ok, acu_ i see no errors... on the proftpd log.. |
| 05:59.37 | Es0teric | i only see "login successful" and "session closed" |
| 05:59.38 | Es0teric | no errors |
| 06:00.02 | Es0teric | and then i get "using sendfile compatability for transmitting data" |
| 06:00.06 | acu_ | so I still do not get it - how do you know it does not work |
| 06:00.41 | acu_ | did you create a user who can have access to proftpd, did you asign a folder so that user can access |
| 06:00.43 | Es0teric | acu_ how do i know it does not work? SIMPLE... when i transfer data it fails |
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| 06:01.25 | acu_ | did you add a user in proftpd ? |
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| 06:03.20 | Es0teric | acu_ yes |
| 06:03.24 | acu_ | Es0teric: I have to leave now, but you realize that you have to add a user in proftpd (you can create a virtual one - or take a system user) and assign specific folder that user can access (and specify what access it can have) |
| 06:03.27 | Es0teric | acu_ it worked before |
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| 06:03.44 | acu_ | Oh I see |
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| 06:04.07 | Es0teric | i still get that "already in use by proftpd" |
| 06:04.13 | acu_ | I think when you update the thing you need to recreate the certificate |
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| 06:04.21 | Es0teric | i didnt update it.. |
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| 06:04.31 | acu_ | so somethink is stuck |
| 06:04.58 | acu_ | stop the proftpd eventually kill the process with killall |
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| 06:05.08 | acu_ | good luck |
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| 06:05.28 | Es0teric | acu_ it says "no process killed" |
| 06:05.50 | acu_ | well, you have to look in top and see exactly the name of the process |
| 06:06.10 | acu_ | I just say killall proftpd (but you should identify it exactly - from top |
| 06:06.31 | acu_ | I forgot the name - and I do not have a computer handy for that |
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| 06:07.02 | acu_ | see you around |
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| 06:09.40 | acu_ | Es0teric: netstat -tlnp | grep 21 |
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| 07:05.34 | cheako | wait... my computer just did something impossible. |
| 07:06.13 | cheako | All the fan and lights shut off... but when they came back on and I'm still on IRC. |
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| 07:07.59 | cheako | uptime reports normal. |
| 07:08.14 | cheako | At the time I did have my arm resting on the ctrl area. |
| 07:08.19 | cheako | y |
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| 07:22.55 | CVirus | How can I install a .deb package and resolve its deps as well before installing ? |
| 07:22.59 | CVirus | automatically I mean |
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| 07:25.39 | CVirus | oh .. dpkg -i package.deb then aptitude install package |
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| 07:40.04 | Big_Brother | how do i find an installed package's details? |
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| 07:44.18 | colo-work | Big_Brother, what "details" are you after? |
| 07:44.39 | Big_Brother | colo-work: just if a package is installed and what version it is. |
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| 07:46.28 | colo-work | dpkg --get-selections <package> |
| 07:46.28 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, colo-work |
| 07:46.33 | colo-work | apt-cache show <package> |
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| 07:47.01 | colo-work | also, apt-cache policy <package> |
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| 07:55.45 | simonlnu | dpkg -i not --get-selections. |
| 07:55.46 | dpkg | package not --get-selections. is already installed |
| 07:55.50 | simonlnu | dpkg -l* |
| 07:55.50 | dpkg | simonlnu: I give up, what is it? |
| 07:56.02 | simonlnu | dpkg: go to sleep |
| 07:56.02 | dpkg | (sing in the style of Ricki Lake's audience) Go to sleep, go to sleep, just damn go. Home. |
| 07:56.19 | simonlnu | wtf |
| 07:56.29 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | lol |
| 07:56.39 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | dpkg: sit down |
| 07:56.39 | dpkg | i don't know, `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` |
| 07:56.50 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | dpkg: wake up |
| 07:56.50 | dpkg | `0ooooo0ooooo0`: I'm already awake! :) |
| 07:56.55 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | ah |
| 07:57.48 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | dpkg, poo |
| 07:57.48 | dpkg | from memory, poo is awesome channel at #poo |
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| 08:01.52 | jelly-home | !nickometer `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` |
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| 08:01.54 | dpkg | '`0OoOoO0OoOoO0`' is 97.840% lame, jelly-home |
| 08:02.07 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | hmm |
| 08:02.18 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | !nickometer jelly-home |
| 08:02.20 | dpkg | 'jelly-home' is 14.000% lame, `0ooooo0ooooo0` |
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| 08:02.35 | simonlnu | ok, chill with the bot |
| 08:02.39 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | never seen that before |
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| 08:02.58 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | do you know how it calculates the lame percentage? |
| 08:03.19 | simonlnu | the source tells the story |
| 08:03.28 | rww | is it vowels. i bet it's vowels |
| 08:03.31 | leafwiz_ | Hey. I cant find the package, eclipse, even if I have "testing main contrib non-free" added to sources. running wheezy/sid |
| 08:04.43 | simonlnu | no, things like ` - and other things lIkE tHiS |
| 08:05.25 | Crypticfortune | So lets see if I have this right, squeeze and wheezy now rely heavily on PolKit thanks to gnome3, and yet we lost the lenny lenny policykit package with polkit-config-file-validate etc? am I missing something?? |
| 08:05.44 | simonlnu | ask the maintainers? |
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| 08:09.40 | ptrkmj | Hi. Are questions related to Debian-derived distros welcomed here? |
| 08:09.53 | Crypticfortune | !ubuntu |
| 08:09.54 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 08:11.40 | Bushmills | ptrkmj: questions like "how do i get rid of <insert distribution> and install debian instead" are |
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| 08:12.58 | ptrkmj | I didn't mean Ubuntu. |
| 08:13.18 | Crypticfortune | !based on debian |
| 08:13.18 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution. #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 08:14.01 | sylar | anyone know how to set default apps and available apps for all users? |
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| 08:17.00 | sylar | I mean what all users see on the "installed applications" tab of the open with other app? |
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| 08:18.55 | Crypticfortune | sylar: doesn't "Installed applications" just display *everything* in the Applications menu? it seems unlikely you could limit that... |
| 08:19.35 | simonlnu | defaults already get set, depending on what's installed. |
| 08:19.39 | simonlnu | !alternatives |
| 08:19.39 | dpkg | i guess alternatives is the way Debian manages multiple applications with the same function. For more info, man update-alternatives. Have a look at the galternatives package or ask me about <update-alternatives> <java alternatives>. |
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| 08:21.19 | Crypticfortune | simonlnu: I think he's talking about gnome stuff, like say to set a default PDF viewer for all users? |
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| 08:22.57 | Crypticfortune | and honestly I have no idea where gnome hides those settings. I figured it would be in gconf somewhere, but I can't find any clues... |
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| 08:26.22 | simonlnu | oh, well, that's gnome, they do their own thing with schema (xml files) |
| 08:27.33 | Crypticfortune | sylar: actually I suppose if you wanted to be brutal, you could remove files from /usr/share/applications (and things would *probably* dissappear from the Applications menu and your "Installed Applications" tab) |
| 08:27.53 | Crypticfortune | but then I'd say just don't install that application in the first place =P |
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| 08:28.51 | AdvoWork | ive got a debian server running dhcp, how/where would i find what ranges are given out by it? |
| 08:29.07 | Bushmills | that's in the dhcpd config |
| 08:29.25 | AdvoWork | ok cheers |
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| 08:30.24 | AdvoWork | actually, do you know the location of that at all, a find wont show it, nor will locate |
| 08:30.26 | Crypticfortune | sylar: woo found it! https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME_Tips#Default_applications |
| 08:30.50 | Crypticfortune | AdvoWork: dpkg -S dhcpd.conf |
| 08:31.03 | sylar | Crypticfortune, my problem is that I have apps that disappeared |
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| 08:31.29 | sylar | Crypticfortune, and they don't appear either at the "installed app" tab |
| 08:32.03 | bolt | I'm using nm-applet to connect to the internet via my phone's bluetooth connection. When nm-applet starts, the phone connection is there, whether the phone is in range or not. If I connect, then disconnect, the phone connection is no longer listed in nm-applet's menu. I can restart nm-applet or do "nmcli nm sleep && nmcli nm wakeup" to get it back. Why wont it just stay? |
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| 08:32.51 | Bushmills | AdvoWork: very hard to say, without knowing what dhcp server you're using |
| 08:33.14 | Bushmills | dpkg -L <package name> might help |
| 08:33.14 | dpkg | No packages found matching <package name> might help |
| 08:33.22 | Crypticfortune | sylar: oh, then maybe got uninstalled? or wiped from /usr/share/applications? I dunno, that's a weird and different problem... |
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| 08:34.35 | sylar | Crypticfortune, it happened when I upgraded to squeeze. The apps appear at the /user/share/applications, but not at the menus |
| 08:35.23 | AdvoWork | Bushmills, ahh found it, dnsmasq, so /etc/dnsmasq.d/dhcp.conf |
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| 08:36.41 | sylar | Crypticfortune, but they are soft links |
| 08:36.52 | Bushmills | AdvoWork: sounds right |
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| 08:38.02 | Crypticfortune | sylar: and the destinations they point to maybe don't exist anymore? that would do it...in your upgrade they might have been removed? check to make sure the package is actually still installed? |
| 08:38.17 | sylar | Crypticfortune, and the link target exist |
| 08:39.18 | Crypticfortune | sylar: could try purge and reinstall, but other than that, I'm stumpted, sorry. |
| 08:39.32 | sylar | k |
| 08:41.27 | Crypticfortune | sylar: oh, also, make sure to check the name of the just hasn't changed and you're missing it. like gqview changed to geeqie |
| 08:41.54 | Crypticfortune | s/of the/of the application/ |
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| 09:12.36 | fasta | When I change the sound settings for a microphone from disabled to enabled, close the window and open it again, it is again disabled. |
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| 09:12.58 | fasta | (I am talking about the Gnome sound applet.) |
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| 09:16.39 | fasta | Oh, it only exists for like 2.5 years... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=539168 |
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| 09:16.57 | fasta | (and the workaround doesn't actually work) |
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| 09:36.19 | khem_ | anyone know if there is a Linux kernel channel on Freenode? I need to find the proper URL from git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git |
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| 09:37.12 | vadmeste | Hello everybody. Does someone have an idea if apt-get needs additional spaces when it upgrades a package ? |
| 09:37.52 | babilen | It does |
| 09:38.13 | vadmeste | babilen: thanks, anyway to calculate it ? |
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| 09:39.20 | vadmeste | khem_: #kernel |
| 09:40.22 | nkuttler | vadmeste: not really, as the packages are compressed |
| 09:40.26 | babilen | Sure, but I am not aware of one off-hand ... http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#sufficient-space will tell you how much space will be used *after* the upgrade. |
| 09:41.13 | babilen | khem_: actually ##kernel |
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| 09:43.11 | felixdd_pl | I've a problem. after making dist-upgrade my system doesn't see main hard drive (grub loads kernel, I see in messages information about discovering my RAID controller (LSI) and information about assigning it to 'sda' but I don't see it in /dev in BUSYBOX shell (ash) |
| 09:43.18 | daemonkeeper | vadmeste: You will need size the binary package, its installed size and possibly some temporary space if the package has some post-installation data processing. |
| 09:43.25 | felixdd_pl | It looks like it doesn't see it (SDA) |
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| 09:50.14 | sh00p | I know /usr/local/lib/ is in ld's path... does directories like: /usr/local/lib/myprogram/ also end up in the library path? |
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| 09:54.13 | VSpike | If I'm stuck using Lenny on a server but I need some newer python tools, what kind of task would I have getting them installed? fairly easy, a bit hairy, or freaking epic? |
| 09:54.40 | VSpike | I need to use mod_wsgi + apache + python + virtualenv |
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| 09:54.53 | VSpike | Everything else I think can be easy_install'ed in virtualenv |
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| 09:55.27 | obsidieth | is syncing my clock as simple as installing ``ntp`` and starting the daemon? |
| 09:56.27 | VSpike | obsidieth: from memory, you need to edit /etc/default/ntp and /etc/ntp.conf a bit |
| 09:56.43 | obsidieth | it seems to have a default pool that is functioning and giving me results. |
| 09:56.46 | babilen | VSpike: I'd recommend to install python2.6 from upstream to /usr/local (/msg dpkg stow), install virtualenv (PEP 370 style) with "setup.py install --user" and use pip to install stuff in the virtualenv |
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| 09:57.07 | babilen | VSpike: Ah, you want to install pip as well |
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| 09:57.51 | VSpike | babilen: thanks! will the existing libapache2-mod-wsgi talk to the new python OK? |
| 09:58.23 | babilen | VSpike: That I don't know -- You probably have to adjust some paths in its configuration. |
| 09:58.42 | VSpike | babilen: yep, but you have to do that anyway to an extent |
| 09:58.51 | obsidieth | hm the ntp config we use at work only dwefines the servers ,nothing else |
| 09:58.53 | obsidieth | and it seems to run |
| 09:58.59 | VSpike | babilen: but wsgi as a protocol standard is stable so it should work |
| 09:59.03 | babilen | VSpike: Or actually: Just install py2.7 (it is just that you need at least 2.6 for --user to work) |
| 09:59.19 | VSpike | obsidieth: yeah, the minimal config is pretty small |
| 09:59.31 | obsidieth | weird! it doesnt seem to set my clock |
| 09:59.38 | obsidieth | this is a vps so i suppose that could be affecting things |
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| 10:00.30 | VSpike | obsidieth: it can take a while to sync. look at the logs |
| 10:00.38 | VSpike | It can be worth running ntpdate first |
| 10:01.09 | obsidieth | i see! that proram says no servers can be reached. |
| 10:01.09 | VSpike | My /etc/default/ntp passes the -g option which allows a big first adjustment too |
| 10:01.12 | krowaa | I've a problem. after making dist-upgrade my system doesn't see main hard drive (grub loads kernel, I see in messages information about discovering my RAID controller (LSI) and information about assigning it to 'sda' but I don't see it in /dev in BUSYBOX shell (ash). It looks like it doesn't see it (SDA) |
| 10:01.13 | obsidieth | i didnt have it installed until now. |
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| 10:02.32 | VSpike | babilen: i'm a bit out of practice on debian. to install upstream versions, presumably I download the deb directly rather than modify the repos? Do I need to download the source packages and compile? |
| 10:02.55 | bolt | I'm using nm-applet to connect to the internet via my phone's bluetooth connection. When nm-applet starts, the phone connection is there, whether the phone is in range or not. If I connect, then disconnect, the phone connection is no longer listed in nm-applet's menu. I can restart nm-applet or do "nmcli nm sleep && nmcli nm wakeup" to get it back. Is there a nicer way of keeping it on the list? |
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| 10:04.04 | krowaa | It's Attachaing SCSI disk [sda] but doesn't see /dev/sda6 |
| 10:04.20 | krowaa | There are all partitions. |
| 10:04.27 | krowaa | I've checked that |
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| 10:07.53 | Zap-W | hi |
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| 10:08.20 | Zap-W | does dpkg install some pid or something I can look back too to know what is being upgraded/installed ? |
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| 10:10.36 | petemc | Zap-W: you mean log? look in /var/log/ |
| 10:13.04 | Zap-W | petemc: put a script in /etc/initramfs-tools that prompts the user for input, it dosen't work when upgrading the kernel or installing a new kernel, dpkg steals stdin I can't type in anything |
| 10:13.14 | Zap-W | so I want to detect if the script is being run from dpkg |
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| 10:17.16 | VSpike | Zap-W: you could create a symlink to your script, say foo-dpkg -> foo, and tell dpkg to use foo-dpkg. Then in your script, look at $0 |
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| 10:22.23 | Zap-W | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open , is there a tool that shows if the file is currently locked |
| 10:22.32 | Zap-W | 'ls' dosen't show anything special |
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| 10:23.28 | liiwi | Zap-W: lsof, or grep for apt, dpkg or dselect from process list |
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| 10:39.12 | Zap-W | I see it tries to open "/etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg" and "/etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d" anything I can use there? |
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| 10:48.45 | Parsind | yawns |
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| 10:51.33 | asteriskATmarmuD | just found out that a clients server excepts any password for root login. what could be wrong? checked /etc/pam.d/common-account. looks ok: |
| 10:51.33 | asteriskATmarmuD | account sufficient pam_ldap.so |
| 10:51.33 | asteriskATmarmuD | account required pam_unix_acct.so |
| 10:51.33 | asteriskATmarmuD | any hints? |
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| 10:54.06 | asteriskATmarmuD | just found out that a clients server excepts any password for root login. what could be wrong? checked /etc/pam.d/common-account. looks ok (http://paste.debian.net/134269/) - any hints? |
| 10:57.16 | petemc | asteriskATmarmuD: logging in how? |
| 10:57.50 | asteriskATmarmuD | petemc: ssh |
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| 10:58.29 | petemc | asteriskATmarmuD: what does auth.log show? |
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| 11:01.25 | asteriskATmarmuD | petemc: password was accepted and session opened (by pam_unix) |
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| 11:02.26 | Zap-W | decided to grep /var/lib/dpkg/updates in my script |
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| 11:03.20 | asteriskATmarmuD | petemc: tried again, and right before the password is accepted it says "authentication failure" |
| 11:05.10 | petemc | asteriskATmarmuD: might help to run sshd in debug mode |
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| 11:05.43 | asteriskATmarmuD | petemc: ok, thanks for your help. |
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| 11:06.35 | willem | is there a general way to find out with which flags a debian package was compiled? For example, I am trying to find out if my xdm had PAM enabled or not. |
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| 11:07.49 | petemc | willem: you can grab the source and check there, or it might work to run ldd on the binary |
| 11:08.42 | jelly | willem: a package dependency on libpam0g is indicative of such support |
| 11:08.51 | jelly | ,depends xdm |
| 11:08.53 | judd | Package xdm in squeeze/i386 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.3), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), libselinux1 (>= 1.32), libx11-6, libxau6, libxaw7, libxdmcp6, libxext6, libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxinerama1, libxmu6, libxpm4, libxrender1, libxt6, debconf (>= 1.2.9) | debconf-2.0, x11-utils | xbase-clients | xmessage, cpp, lsb-base (>= 3.2-14), x11-xserver-utils, procps,x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0). |
| 11:09.02 | willem | petemc: I've looked in the configure script and it seemed it was automatically determined so I might try ldd |
| 11:13.20 | willem | it seems linked with libpam. I'm actually trying to link xdm -> pam -> gnome-keyring. If it works, its supposed to generate a login keyring under ~/.gnome2/keyrings right? |
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| 11:25.11 | goose | My 'Keyboard shortcuts' no longer has 'Run a terminal', how can I add the shortcut back? |
| 11:25.23 | NodeX | Can anyone help with a quick network card problem |
| 11:26.40 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | dpkg, penis |
| 11:26.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, penis is a fuck stick |
| 11:27.34 | babilen | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0`: Play somewhere else please. This is a technical support channel for Debian users. |
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| 11:27.55 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | fair enough |
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| 11:28.13 | babilen | NodeX: Just ask -- We can not answer a question that has never been asked. :) |
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| 11:30.17 | NodeX | Ok. after many issues with a remote server my ISP finaly changed the network card and has left it down to me to configure because the MAC has changed but I am not sure where to start |
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| 11:31.54 | NodeX | I have DRAC (remote KVM access) but no internet access so I cannot install packages or anything |
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| 11:32.19 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | NodeX, what sort of connection do you have adsl cable? |
| 11:32.39 | NodeX | 10gbps fiber |
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| 11:32.58 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | I never heard of ISPs configuring network cards or mac addresses changing |
| 11:33.01 | NodeX | (remote server) |
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| 11:33.23 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | do you know your network settings |
| 11:33.24 | NodeX | it's a host in a colo data center - that kind of ISP lol |
| 11:33.37 | NodeX | I have them all and they are all in the card but it wont do anythign lol |
| 11:33.46 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | they probably should give you a piece of paper with gateway ip address etc. |
| 11:33.56 | NodeX | it's all in there correctly |
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| 11:34.05 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | try turning it on ifconfig eth0 up |
| 11:34.07 | NodeX | (from the old card) |
| 11:34.12 | NodeX | it's up too!! |
| 11:34.27 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | ok then I thought you said it was down |
| 11:34.41 | NodeX | Nope |
| 11:34.43 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | maybe just look at what it says ifconfig |
| 11:35.03 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | so type ifconfig with no arguements |
| 11:35.13 | NodeX | ifconfig looks like it did yesterday but with a new mac address |
| 11:35.17 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | it should give you an output of how it is configured |
| 11:35.25 | willem | Does anyone have PAM setup with gnome-keyring? I am expecting to see a 'login' keyring being created on login but that doesn't seem to work. This is my xdm PAM config: http://paste.debian.net/134284/. |
| 11:35.50 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | why would the mac address change |
| 11:35.59 | NodeX | new network card apparently |
| 11:36.01 | willem | gnome-keyring-daemon seems to be started for a few seconds on login though |
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| 11:36.15 | NodeX | the engineer said I would have to reconfigure it as it's changed |
| 11:36.30 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | ah does your ISP expect the same mac address and block requests from unknown macs? |
| 11:36.34 | NodeX | I've never heard of doing that before ergo here I am lol |
| 11:36.51 | NodeX | I am not sure |
| 11:37.09 | NodeX | I assume as they swapped the card that they would allow this new MAC if they did |
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| 11:38.56 | NodeX | this is the message from the engineer "As the MAC address of the card has changed you may need to reconfigure the network settings in Debian." |
| 11:40.03 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | hmm they probably mean the os itself doesnt recognise the mac and therefore forgot its configuration |
| 11:40.39 | NodeX | mebbe ... how to I get it to reconfig |
| 11:40.48 | NodeX | ahh .. one thing .. dmesg gives me this |
| 11:41.19 | NodeX | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link not ready |
| 11:41.58 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | NodeX, do you know how to run scripts? run this and paste the results from network.txt in pastebin if you do http://pastebin.com/NGLh7rv6 |
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| 11:42.35 | NodeX | The bad thing is... the DRAC console does not let me copy / paste lol |
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| 11:43.56 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | ok well it wouldnt be that hard if you could cp the text file to something with a UI |
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| 11:44.38 | Sevet | i'm guessing the old card is eth0 and the new one is eth1, and your network config is for eth0 not eth1 |
| 11:44.40 | Sevet | either edit /etc/network/interfaces to update it for eth1, or swap the mac addresses in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and restart which'll make eth0 the new card |
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| 11:45.54 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | ah yes Sevet is right the system remembers the old mac address I had to do that once too |
| 11:45.56 | Sevet | personally i'd do the latter as it means nothing that's configured to use eth0 would need updating |
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| 11:50.43 | NodeX | Thanks Sevet |
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| 11:52.37 | NodeX | what it has is the old mac address for eth3-eth5 |
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| 11:52.52 | NodeX | which is maybe what is casuing it to fail ? |
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| 11:55.20 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | NodeX, this is what it should look like at the end of the line you want to change ATTR{address}=="00:24:1d:a1:85:58", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" |
| 11:55.53 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | 00:24:1d:a1:85:58 is the example of what you want to change |
| 11:56.13 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | NAME="eth0" is at the end of the line meaning the interface will be called eth0 |
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| 11:56.42 | `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` | there is most likely a new line called eth1 you can change it to eth0 and comment out the old eth0 |
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| 11:57.22 | Sevet | nodex: eth3/eth5 - how many cards do you have? |
| 11:58.31 | Sevet | but you should simply need to just update the line with the old mac with the new mac and restart to take effect, whichever ethX interface it is |
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| 12:01.46 | NodeX | one card but many ip's bound |
| 12:02.05 | NodeX | the udev file has the correct MAC address that is found in "ifconfig" |
| 12:02.23 | NodeX | I did what you suggested, rebooted but it's still the same |
| 12:04.31 | NodeX | the engineer has now replied with this ... "edit the ifconfig file in Debian to update it with the new MAC address." |
| 12:04.37 | NodeX | which I have done 5 times lol |
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| 12:08.47 | systemclinet2 | is there some magic trick needed to get my public key onto alioth or do i just have to wait some time after putting it into the web form? |
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| 12:10.17 | djura-san | o/ |
| 12:11.28 | NodeX | omg the ISP put it on eth 2/3 |
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| 12:15.29 | XiGuLoR | Hi people |
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| 12:15.49 | jason_ | Has anybody tinkered with Debian and LTSP while utilizing old PowerPC Mac systems as clients? |
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| 12:22.55 | NodeX | finaly got it, thanks for the help guys |
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| 12:23.16 | NodeX | now to find a 10gbps speedtest and see if they put it back on the right port |
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| 12:23.55 | jtheuer | hi, I want to search'n'replace a text file which contains one big line. i created a sed expression which works if I do "head -c 1000 in.txt | sed '...' > out.txt but I i just cat the whole file the result file has 0 bytes. Any ideas? |
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| 12:25.33 | Sevet | jtheuer: what's the command you're using? |
| 12:25.40 | jtheuer | wait... |
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| 12:34.13 | Sevet | jtheuer: is that it? there's no cat there and you're not piping the output to a file |
| 12:35.51 | jtheuer | Sevet: that is the working example. not working is: cat /tmp/komoot_solr.xml | sed 's/<field name="position">\([0-9.]*\),\([0-9.]*\)<\/field>/<field name="position">\2,\1<\/field>/g' > out.txt |
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| 12:37.34 | Sevet | so you're not cat-ing the same file? |
| 12:37.53 | jtheuer | i'm sorry, I do. |
| 12:38.03 | jtheuer | Sevet: that is the working example. not working is: cat /tmp/solr.xml | sed 's/<field name="position">\([0-9.]*\),\([0-9.]*\)<\/field>/<field name="position">\2,\1<\/field>/g' > out.txt |
| 12:40.56 | Sevet | not sure then, looks like it works fine for me |
| 12:41.30 | Sevet | i know if you pipe to the input file you'll get a 0 byte file, but going to out.txt should be fine |
| 12:42.43 | jtheuer | well, I also know that. |
| 12:43.30 | jtheuer | ok, maybe sed can't do that. I'll go for awk maybe. |
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| 12:43.57 | Sevet | it should be able to - as i said, it worked fine on my machine |
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| 12:49.01 | toot | Hi, anyone using cgroups here ? |
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| 12:54.35 | BW^- | can I make an application on start, load another dynamically loadable library, without recompiling the application? something like, OS_Please_load_also_this_dynlib=abcd.so myapp |
| 12:54.46 | ws2k3 | hello guys for some reason i cant change the timezone of my debian machine |
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| 12:55.16 | ws2k3 | i use tzselect command to change it. but after the change it still the same |
| 12:55.17 | babilen | ws2k3: How do you try to change it and what errors do you get when you try? |
| 12:55.28 | ws2k3 | tzselect |
| 12:55.32 | babilen | ws2k3: Does "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" do the deed? |
| 12:55.44 | ws2k3 | i shall try |
| 12:56.23 | ws2k3 | yeah not it does change babilen thx for u help |
| 12:56.42 | BW^- | anyone? |
| 12:56.49 | babilen | ws2k3: The manpage of "tzselect" also contains " Note that tzselect will not actually change the timezone for you. Use 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' to achieve this." -- You are welcome, welcome to your new timezone :) |
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| 12:59.39 | stephanj | hi, where can i read about how i must add the sid/testing repos to my squeeze install so i can conviently install packages from them but without have the sid/testing packages installed by default? |
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| 13:00.26 | babilen | stephanj: Mixing suites/branches like that is not recommended at all and will cause you pain and troubles. What exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 13:01.38 | stephanj | getting evolution-mapi +deps from sid |
| 13:01.54 | babilen | ,checkbackport evolution-mapi |
| 13:01.56 | judd | Backporting package evolution-mapi in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libmapi-dev (>= 1:0.9), samba4-dev. |
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| 13:02.45 | jelly | samba4? Uhh. |
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| 13:03.12 | jelly | and libmapi-dev sounds like openchange |
| 13:03.30 | babilen | stephanj: It looks as if creating a backport is pretty cumbersome and I wouldn't recommend to pull those packages from sid either. |
| 13:03.55 | jelly | ,versions evolution-mapi |
| 13:03.55 | judd | Package: evolution-mapi on i386 -- sid: 0.30.3-2 |
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| 13:04.58 | jelly | looks like a nontrivial taskx |
| 13:05.37 | jelly | where are all the people with signs like WILL BACKPORT FOR MONIEZ |
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| 13:06.46 | nkuttler | ##debian-freelance ? |
| 13:07.07 | nkuttler | or just http://www.debian.org/consultants/ |
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| 13:09.35 | deuterium | hi, i use debian lenny i.e. oldstable on my server and i configured exim to use another smtp server (a zimbra server) as smarthost. strangely, exim doesn't send the messages, but rather sets them to 'frozen' due to the following error: Error while reading message with no usable sender address (R=1RBRDl-0004QF-Er): at least one malformed recipient address: root@ETC_MAILNAME - malformed address: _MAILNAME may not follow root@ETC |
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| 13:20.45 | petemc | deuterium: what does exim -bV say for version? |
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| 13:23.17 | deuterium | petemc: Exim version 4.72 #1 built 12-May-2011 18:50:41 |
| 13:23.49 | asdjaputra | 1st of April: GNU's latest unstable relesae |
| 13:23.56 | asdjaputra | s/relesae/release |
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| 13:24.13 | petemc | deuterium: exim was exploitable recently and what you're experiencing is one of the symptoms of being hacked |
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| 13:24.37 | wfq | hi guys |
| 13:24.55 | XiGuLoR | hi |
| 13:25.26 | deuterium | petemc: i have heard of this but i doubt that this server has been hacked. checked for anything suspicious, rootkits etc. already and there's no sign at all (i'm pretty experienced with linux, i have to add). |
| 13:25.28 | wfq | why my debian is not able to mount any usb that is plugged in automatically as it used to do before re-installation |
| 13:25.42 | wfq | do I need to add my user to any group? |
| 13:26.26 | deuterium | petemc: btw, /etc/mailname contains 1 entry only: myserver.com |
| 13:26.59 | deuterium | petemc: so i don't quite understand why exim doesn't expand ETC_MAILNAME |
| 13:27.07 | asdjaputra | wfq, is it set to automount? |
| 13:27.24 | petemc | deuterium: perhaps exim -d -bt foo@bar might shed some light on it |
| 13:27.46 | XiGuLoR | wfq: are you in the 'floppy' group ? |
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| 13:28.13 | XiGuLoR | I've just tested with a stick and it apears in /dev as root - floppy |
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| 13:28.20 | babilen | s/floppy/plugdev |
| 13:28.21 | wfq | XiGuLor, I am |
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| 13:28.34 | Js_Kid | yo wazap |
| 13:28.37 | wfq | asdjaputra, where do I need to set autoamount |
| 13:29.08 | asdjaputra | wfq, see http://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs |
| 13:29.12 | wfq | http://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs |
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| 13:29.19 | wfq | you were faster than me :) |
| 13:29.22 | wfq | thanks anyway |
| 13:29.24 | asdjaputra | heh |
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| 13:29.28 | babilen | wfq: Are you using a desktop environment? |
| 13:29.37 | wfq | babilen, yes I am |
| 13:29.38 | wfq | xfce |
| 13:29.44 | asdjaputra | thunar should automount it |
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| 13:29.56 | babilen | wfq: You need thunar-volman for thunar to handle that |
| 13:30.02 | babilen | ,info thunar-volman |
| 13:30.05 | judd | Package thunar-volman (xfce, optional) in squeeze/i386: Thunar extension for volumes management. Version: 0.3.80-4; Size: 77.7k; Installed: 520k |
| 13:30.28 | mooperd | hallo, I've downloaded and patched a version of ISC-DHCP but I am confused how to make the logging with with rsyslog |
| 13:30.35 | deuterium | petemc: thanks for the pointer. currently reading through the output of it.. |
| 13:30.43 | babilen | wfq: You can then configure its behaviour in the thunar settings. I do not use XFCE so I can't talk you through it. #xfce or other people in here might know though. |
| 13:31.01 | petemc | deuterium: did you check for any suspicious files in /var/spool/exim4/ or /tmp/ ? |
| 13:31.17 | mooperd | dhcpd contains the line "log-facility local7;" |
| 13:31.49 | mooperd | and rsyslog.conf contains the line "local7.* /var/log/dhcpd.log" |
| 13:31.57 | wfq | babilen, thanks. I know it is a permission thing as I get a no authorised message from the removable icon on thunar, that I have got all I need hence I asked if I needed to ad myself to any group |
| 13:32.05 | mooperd | but /var/log/dhcpd.log remains empty/.... |
| 13:32.17 | babilen | wfq: You need to be a member of the plugdev group |
| 13:32.23 | babilen | !tell wfq about desktop groups |
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| 13:32.57 | wfq | babile, I am... Let me try with another one, just in case this is corrupted |
| 13:33.32 | wfq | same. I know what is gonna happen here. I installed thunar 1.2.3 from sid |
| 13:33.38 | wfq | it could be conflicts here |
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| 13:34.23 | babilen | wfq: That is almost certainly the case. Do not mix suites/branches. Or rather: Do not mix stable with anything but backports. |
| 13:34.43 | wfq | I am going to downgrad it now |
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| 13:39.57 | deuterium | petemc: there's nothing suspicious in /tmp or /var/spool/exim4. basically holds the frozen messages only. |
| 13:40.32 | deuterium | petemc: i cross-checked this with various other debian boxes, also newstable. |
| 13:40.36 | petemc | deuterium: and exim -d -bt didnt show anything related to /etc/mailname ? |
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| 13:45.13 | deuterium | petemc: there are various "domain mismatch" warnings/errors i don't quite understand: http://dpaste.com/627885/ . sth with +local_domains? |
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| 13:46.06 | petemc | deuterium: the relevant stuff would come before that |
| 13:46.47 | petemc | deuterium: exim -bV will show the config file its using, look for mailname in that |
| 13:47.21 | kuznetzvo | if i had to custom build a .deb package for scratch for something that's in the repository because it needed a special build option, do I have to recompile it every time there is an update? |
| 13:47.34 | babilen | kuznetzvo: Yes |
| 13:47.44 | kuznetzvo | scheisse :) |
| 13:48.13 | babilen | kuznetzvo: Well, you don't have to -- But if you want to track changes you should. |
| 13:48.24 | Benkinooby | is it appropriate to ask ipv6-over-ipv4 tunneling questions here? |
| 13:48.32 | kuznetzvo | it's squid. i'm not leaving that unpatched lol |
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| 13:49.41 | deuterium | petemc: ok, moment please |
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| 13:51.43 | hj | Russia to steer |
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| 13:54.02 | deuterium | petemc: here are the two references to "mailname" i found in the exim4 config file: http://dpaste.com/627895/ |
| 13:54.14 | Benkinooby | hi, i am toying around with ipv6-over-ipv4 tunneling. i set up a "sit1" interfacem but i can not ping it from my eth0 interface of the same computer |
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| 13:54.31 | deuterium | petemc: somehow, it just seems to me that exim doesn't properly expand ETC_MAILNAME |
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| 13:55.48 | evil-man | Benkinooby: please show output of commands ip link show |
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| 13:56.07 | evil-man | and ip address ls and ip tunnel show |
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| 13:56.47 | evil-man | Benkinooby: and check state of sit0 interface. It must be up. |
| 13:56.58 | Benkinooby | evil-man, one second... hm... funy fact: i can ping eth0 with sit1 but not vice versa |
| 13:56.59 | Benkinooby | :/ |
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| 13:59.00 | jon8 | need a little help here -- i'm trying to come up with some documentation regarding bigmem patch on 32bit cpu, and whether it allows the memory to be addressable as well as used.. basically trying to find something on how it actually works with systems that have more than 4GB of ram with 32bit cpu. |
| 13:59.45 | deuterium | petemc: mailq and the exim4 error log indicates that the reason for exim freezing the messages is the malformed sender address it always uses (root@ETC_MAILNAME). is there a way i can force exim using another, user-specified sender address, just for testing purposes? |
| 14:00.12 | evil-man | jon8: use PAE |
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| 14:00.25 | Benkinooby | evil-man, http://pastebin.com/GRNSw8px |
| 14:00.33 | petemc | deuterium: what does exim -bP qualify_domain say ? |
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| 14:01.17 | deuterium | petemc: qualify_domain = ETC_MAILNAME |
| 14:01.24 | Benkinooby | evil-man, hm.. when editing the /etc/network/interfaces file... what do i have to set as gateway for eth0 in ipv6 ? |
| 14:01.25 | evil-man | Benkinooby: ip link set up dev sit0. after this command all must work. |
| 14:02.02 | deuterium | petemc: i guess that should be in expanded form here, right? |
| 14:02.17 | Benkinooby | evil-man, ahhhhhh! works now! |
| 14:02.24 | Benkinooby | evil-man, what does sit0 do? |
| 14:02.36 | Benkinooby | evil-man, i set up everything with "sit1" |
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| 14:05.36 | evil-man | Benkinooby: sit0 is special interface called fallback. it must be up. this is feature of linux realization of ipip- gre- and sit- tunnels. |
| 14:06.05 | Benkinooby | evil-man, ok, thank you a lot! |
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| 14:06.11 | petemc | deuterium: yes, my problem is i dont know much about the debian managed config |
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| 14:11.43 | deuterium | petemc: ok, but thanks anyway! unfortunately, i don't know much about it either. i just find it strange that ETC_MAILNAME isn't expanded. would like to send a message with a forced (valid) sender address for testing purpose, but i don't know how that can be done. |
| 14:12.50 | petemc | deuterium: you could try changing /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template |
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| 14:13.53 | jelly | I'm trying to alienize a vendor binary-only rpm (TSM backup-archive client). Are there any best practice documents on creating and maintaining patches for repackaging with alien? |
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| 14:20.09 | deuterium | petemc: i'm trying to explicitly set ETC_MAILNAME = mydomain.com there |
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| 14:20.33 | petemc | deuterium: i would set qualify_domain |
| 14:20.47 | deuterium | petemc: oh ok |
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| 14:26.09 | deuterium | petemc: ok, now mailq strangely shows an empty (<>) sender address. exim hence still freezes the message. here's the according part from the exim log: http://dpaste.com/627911/ |
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| 14:26.45 | deuterium | (where mydomain.com would be my real domain) |
| 14:26.51 | petemc | deuterium: what does exim -bP qualify_domain say ? |
| 14:27.26 | deuterium | qualify_domain = mydomain.com |
| 14:27.37 | deuterium | petemc: so that would actually look correct |
| 14:27.47 | petemc | yes |
| 14:27.59 | petemc | empty sender usually indicates a bounce message |
| 14:28.00 | Iridos | jelly, tsm doesn't have .deb? |
| 14:28.26 | petemc | deuterium: if you need to send the mails on the queue, you can use exim -Mes to edit the sender |
| 14:29.21 | deuterium | petemc: ok, thanks for the hint. |
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| 14:35.18 | deuterium | petemc: i'm astonished that there are still "unroutable address" warnings/errors in the exim log, now that valid addresses are used: http://dpaste.com/627911/ . would that indicate a problem with exim's smart/relayhost configuration? |
| 14:35.29 | Na_Klar | in respect to setting up a web-server using debian: which would be the best decision for a desktop, considering it should be minimal at the one side and user-friendly (for remote control (also it should be secure)) on the other side? |
| 14:36.15 | petemc | deuterium: what does exim -bt trace02@mydomain.com print ? |
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| 14:37.04 | Iridos | Na_Klar, something that Germans would call a "eierlegende Wollmilchsau", only, it should also eat nothing and the wool it produces should be pure gold? |
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| 14:38.32 | deuterium | petemc: trace02@mydomain.com is undeliverable: Unrouteable address |
| 14:38.34 | icesword | what is it mean |
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| 14:39.05 | petemc | deuterium: pastebin exim -d -bt trace02@mydomain.com |
| 14:39.06 | Na_Klar | Iridos, well of course that would be nice :P, but primarily I am searching for a minimalistic destop which supports the basic functions |
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| 14:39.16 | petemc | deuterium: did this ever work ? |
| 14:39.43 | Iridos | Na_Klar, you said web server, not desktop |
| 14:39.45 | the20year | Dumb question - I have a sever running on debian that I did not set up, nor use very often. I need to retrieve email from it, is there a way to go about email retrevial via shell? |
| 14:40.16 | Iridos | the20year, well... type "mail"? |
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| 14:40.30 | Iridos | the20year, or do you mean with retrival download somewhere else? |
| 14:41.09 | Na_Klar | Iridos, yes, I want to install a desktop on a web-server, don't adjudge me ^^ |
| 14:41.09 | deuterium | petemc: haven't gotten as far yet as to be able to test this. could very well be that the smart/relayhost doesn't accept messages yet from that server. i'd expect a slightly different error message though, e.g. more sth like "relaying by smarthost denied". pinging the smarthost works fine. |
| 14:41.20 | the20year | just export it in a format where I can read/retrieve |
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| 14:42.01 | petemc | deuterium: that message means exim doesnt know what to do with the email |
| 14:42.12 | Iridos | the20year, in that case... guess you can just try to copy /var/spool/mail/$USER from that machine... |
| 14:42.48 | the20year | k, thx |
| 14:43.00 | Iridos | the20year, but I guess some configurations might not use that file but a database instead (not sure) |
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| 14:43.38 | deuterium | petemc: strange.. i configured it to use another server as a relay/smarthost. debug outpost you requested follows.. |
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| 14:45.54 | babilen | the20year: You might also want to configure /etc/aliases to forward the mails somewhere else. Another option would be to setup a pop/imap server and use that to access the mails. |
| 14:46.29 | deuterium | petemc: http://dpaste.com/627926/ |
| 14:47.45 | petemc | deuterium: that mentions nothing about a smarthost router, which you should have |
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| 14:49.13 | deuterium | petemc: hm.. strange. i used 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4' to configure exim4 to use a smarthost. maybe i should try this again. |
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| 14:50.42 | deuterium | er.. exim4-config, i meant |
| 14:50.44 | Iridos | Na_Klar, so you were asking for a kind of minimal desktop to install... your question sounded like you were asking for a webserver-software to install |
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| 14:52.18 | Iridos | Na_Klar, well, it all depends on what amount of comfort you want. Start with installing X and then work your way up deciding if you need a login-manager and what window manager you want or if you even need a desktop environment... |
| 14:52.24 | Iridos | !tell Na_Klar -about install x |
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| 14:53.53 | Iridos | Na_Klar, the things in <>-brackets are <keywords> you can ask dpkg about (e.g. /msg dpkg <keywords> if the one in my text had been a hint) |
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| 14:54.33 | deuterium | petemc: i have to reconfigure exim4 later.. in about 4 hours, i guess. thanks a lot for your help so far! so basically, assuming exim4 were correctly configured for using a smarthost, mails could be sent now, using this 'qualify_domain' workaround? |
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| 14:54.51 | petemc | deuterium: hopefully! |
| 14:55.37 | acu_ | hey guys - do you know any big corporation switching totally from tape backup to Hard Disk drive based backup ? |
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| 14:55.55 | petemc | we're not big, but we did that years ago |
| 14:56.36 | acu_ | petemc: big is always relative - what is the ballpark of your backup per week ? |
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| 14:57.11 | Iridos | Na_Klar, for windows managers ... take a look at openbox, perhaps fvwm2 you can get an exhaustive (or exhausting!) list of window managers with: aptitude search '~G x11::window-manager' |
| 14:57.26 | Iridos | acu_, google? |
| 14:57.28 | ws2k3 | hello people i have some files on my harddisk that i wanne serv true the web. can i make a symlink from /var/www/mydirectory to /home/user/data for example? then i can get files from that directory? true www? |
| 14:57.39 | acu_ | petemc what software do you use |
| 14:58.04 | petemc | acu_: have been using dirvish, we're switching now to a iso27001 certified online backup |
| 14:58.10 | Na_Klar | Iridos, ty so far |
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| 14:58.19 | petemc | acu_: its only a few hundred gig per week |
| 14:58.54 | acu_ | petemc did you try BackupPC or Mondo ? |
| 14:59.07 | petemc | acu_: have used backuppc in the past, works well |
| 14:59.11 | acu_ | what is that iso27001 |
| 14:59.26 | acu_ | what requirements are for hospitals |
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| 14:59.51 | toot | Hi, anyone using cgroups here ? |
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| 15:07.46 | daniel-s | hi |
| 15:08.00 | daniel-s | how can I get libreoffice on squeeze |
| 15:08.55 | acu_ | download it from the site go to DEBS directory from the folder is made when you untar and type dpkg -i *.deb |
| 15:09.06 | Joelito | daniel-s, is on backports |
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| 15:09.17 | acu_ | then there is another step cd Desktop integration and do the same |
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| 15:10.06 | daniel-s | if I already have openoffice installed, will it refuse to install libreoffice? |
| 15:10.14 | daniel-s | or can both of these run side-by-side? |
| 15:10.36 | Joelito | daniel-s, just uninstall openofice*, and install libreoffice |
| 15:10.45 | debiantonio | yes |
| 15:10.49 | Joelito | both are biggies |
| 15:10.57 | acu_ | petemc: so that certified online backup is a third part company doing your backup or is an application -solution locally installed |
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| 15:11.29 | petemc | acu_: third party |
| 15:11.47 | debiantonio | http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.4.3/deb/ |
| 15:11.49 | jelly | Iridos: no, just rpm |
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| 15:13.07 | Iridos | jelly, I installed the client-side a long time ago at UKA... can'T remember... I think I just installed the rpms... that way I have a separate list of packages that aren't installed from the repos |
| 15:13.41 | Joelito | no need to download the debs..backports already has it, just add the backports repo in your sources.list update and your done :) |
| 15:14.20 | debiantonio | http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.4.3/ |
| 15:15.01 | daniel-s | http://pastebin.com/uaSjtT1L |
| 15:15.27 | daniel-s | it says I have dependencies that aren't going to be installed |
| 15:15.29 | jelly | Iridos: I already have debs made out of it, but have use a rather crude way of unpacking, stripping out all the garbage and replacing with sensible paths and scripts manually. Looking for a long-term solution so I don't have to redo all the work each time a new version comes out |
| 15:15.41 | daniel-s | I have backports in my sources list |
| 15:15.59 | debiantonio | dpkg -i |
| 15:15.59 | dpkg | debiantonio: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 15:16.06 | Joelito | try libreoffice-gtk |
| 15:16.10 | debiantonio | ups |
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| 15:16.52 | daniel-s | still doesn't work |
| 15:17.01 | Joelito | ah |
| 15:17.03 | Joelito | jajaja |
| 15:17.04 | daniel-s | for some reason, it has access to all the dependencies |
| 15:17.04 | Joelito | I see |
| 15:17.06 | Joelito | try |
| 15:17.17 | daniel-s | but doesn't want to install those |
| 15:17.19 | Joelito | sudo aptitude -t squeeze-backports install libreoffice-gtk |
| 15:17.32 | daniel-s | what does -t do? |
| 15:17.38 | debiantonio | backports? |
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| 15:17.47 | Joelito | use the backports branch |
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| 15:19.00 | debiantonio | ? |
| 15:19.14 | Joelito | just to say that also in backports are newer versions of the kernel and xorg, depends on you if you want to upgrade those too |
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| 15:19.56 | debiantonio | 3.4.3 is stable |
| 15:20.39 | Joelito | debiantonio, on backports is 3.3.3-4 :) |
| 15:20.47 | Joelito | up to date :) |
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| 15:21.52 | debiantonio | LibreOffice 3.4.3 Final (2011-08-31) |
| 15:22.01 | daniel-s | Joelito: I think that would have worked, but it kept complaining about unresolved openoffice dependencies |
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| 15:22.25 | daniel-s | so, I'm going to finish removing all the old openoffice ones |
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| 15:22.32 | daniel-s | then try installing libreoffice again |
| 15:22.36 | debiantonio | up to date? |
| 15:22.40 | primeras | hi. my english isn't very well. how to using "cut" command with -s parameter |
| 15:22.43 | Joelito | debiantonio, remember that debian is not about numbers, is about stability, .3.3.3-4 has the patches of "4.3" |
| 15:22.56 | debiantonio | patches? |
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| 15:23.00 | Joelito | daniel-s, did you uninstall openoffice? |
| 15:23.04 | debiantonio | ok |
| 15:23.15 | daniel-s | yea, I used "apt-get remove openoffice" |
| 15:23.19 | daniel-s | then apt-get autoremove |
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| 15:23.27 | debiantonio | hehehehe |
| 15:23.31 | daniel-s | but there where heaps of packages still left for some reason |
| 15:23.33 | debiantonio | :) |
| 15:23.52 | Joelito | daniel-s, yup still orhpans :) |
| 15:24.00 | daniel-s | now I've done remove openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-common |
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| 15:24.01 | Joelito | orphans* |
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| 15:24.42 | Joelito | I'll go with aptitude remove --purge ~nopenffice.org* |
| 15:25.25 | Joelito | and bye bye openffice sad that Oracle f*cked you :( |
| 15:27.27 | daniel-s | Joelito: your aptitude command from before worked ok this time |
| 15:27.34 | daniel-s | after getting rid of openoffice |
| 15:28.07 | daniel-s | why didn't "apt-get install libreoffice" or "apt-get install libreoffice-gtk" work |
| 15:28.15 | daniel-s | (I tried those just now as well) |
| 15:28.29 | Joelito | because libreoffice is not in squeeze main branch |
| 15:28.39 | Joelito | libreoffice is in squeeze-backports |
| 15:28.56 | Joelito | and by using aptitude -t squeeze-backports some-packages |
| 15:29.22 | Joelito | -t indicates that pull the package from squeeze-backports instead |
| 15:29.39 | Joelito | you can use the priority of a package with |
| 15:30.00 | Joelito | apt-cache policy audacious |
| 15:30.00 | Joelito | for example :) |
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| 15:36.00 | nameless` | hi |
| 15:36.22 | daniel-s | "suck my balls! 2 times!!" |
| 15:36.32 | nameless` | i'd like to had a command line option to an init script (gpsd), i want the init sript to run gpsd with -n option |
| 15:36.45 | daniel-s | I'm watching pineapple express, it's so awsome!! |
| 15:36.46 | nameless` | however i don't find in lsb how to pass a $OPTION or something |
| 15:37.26 | nameless` | especially to the start-stop-daemon |
| 15:38.30 | nameless` | oh i think i found |
| 15:38.38 | nameless` | reading the start-stop-daemon man :] |
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| 15:50.36 | nkuttler | if anybody here has an ideapad s205 i'd like to know which graphics driver you're using, i'm considering getting one. |
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| 15:58.16 | jelly | nkuttler: googled for `ideapad s205 lspci' yet? |
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| 16:01.05 | jelly | ,pciid 1002:9802 |
| 16:01.07 | judd | [1002:9802] is 'Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:9802 http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary and the out-of-tree 'fglrx', 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 16:01.44 | jelly | huh... 'fglrx', 'snd-hda-intel' |
| 16:02.17 | jelly | oh, probably for sound over HDMI |
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| 16:03.37 | daniel-s | hmm, so libreoffice is installed, but not any of the actual applications |
| 16:04.05 | daniel-s | i need to apt-get install libreoffice-writer |
| 16:04.22 | daniel-s | I guess it shouldn't be too difficult to sort |
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| 16:06.55 | nkuttler | jelly: yeah, not too much and conflicting info online. And in +10 years i've always been unhappy with ati cards.. |
| 16:07.16 | nkuttler | but then, oh well, i can still throw vesa at it. it's not like i need fancy graphics |
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| 16:08.29 | jelly | nkuttler: perhaps you might reconsider using a machine with an AMD APU then? |
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| 16:09.11 | Vib3 | hi |
| 16:09.16 | Vib3 | http://pastebin.com/rnBi5kaa ideas? |
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| 16:10.04 | nkuttler | jelly: well, worst case i'll return it. but thanks for the input |
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| 16:11.10 | jelly | probably going to become stable/unstable during the next 12 months, if the hardware is decent |
| 16:11.15 | Iridos | actually the compose key factoid doesn't say how you put a compose key in your configuration permanently |
| 16:11.21 | jelly | stable/reliable* |
| 16:11.26 | Iridos | and I just noticed I forgot how to do it when trying to tell someone |
| 16:12.16 | nkuttler | Vib3: mh, what exactly are you doing? also, "ERROR - X needs to be running to perform ATI Overdrive(TM) commands" |
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| 16:13.12 | Vib3 | trying to get X running and use aticontrol to adjust graphic card setting nkuttler |
| 16:13.54 | Vib3 | just updated kernel to 3.0 |
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| 16:21.02 | Vib3 | tried to compile fglrx from source I get -> http://pastebin.com/30P42h03 :/ |
| 16:21.36 | arnoldB | I'd like to create a subdirectory in /var/log/ within a postinstall script for a self made debian package. Are there any additional resources (next to http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ ) where policies are described (creating directory within FHS-directories, etc.)? |
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| 16:28.21 | Aut0ExeC | hi guys |
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| 16:39.18 | somiaj | arnoldB: have you checked the scripts from packages that already do that or do you want a stated policy? |
| 16:40.40 | arnoldB | 1) no, but I will do that now. |
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| 16:41.34 | arnoldB | 2) dunno, just wanted to check if there any extra criteria to note |
| 16:41.42 | arnoldB | *are |
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| 16:43.00 | somiaj | arnoldB: seems to be a common thing to do. I bet the policy is more on what is stored in /var/log more than directory creating. But apache2 and mysql both create directories in tehre and it seems to be a common thing to do (espically for applications that could produce multiple logs) |
| 16:44.28 | arnoldB | indeed. I wanted to collect all my self generated logs within /var/log/<myproject>/ |
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| 16:46.13 | arnoldB | browsing through dh_* .. |
| 16:46.23 | somiaj | arnoldB: well its a common thing to do so I doubt there is any major policy issue, but I would again suggest looking at packages that already do it if you want to see if they do any special calls. |
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| 16:46.40 | arnoldB | I will |
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| 16:47.27 | cafaro | I'm trying to find out why a remote debian server keeps restarting all of a sudden. This has happened several times now. in /var/log/messages I always get a "rsyslog was HUPed" message, after that logging stops (in kern.log as well), and several hours later, the system just restarts... See: http://codepad.org/IMPfbE61 |
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| 16:47.32 | cafaro | Any ideas? |
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| 16:48.16 | Ja_samara | hallo, all! Can u help me - i want to use asp.net at my deb server, but google couldn't answer me what deamon is the most simple to use and configure.... |
| 16:48.53 | somiaj | cafaro: have you checked syslog, kern.log or other logs? |
| 16:49.31 | netzsooc | hello, i am new to debian, I have been used Ubuntu for a while but now i got sick of it. But now in Debian I have some troubles. I managed to install it and I installed kde (aptitude install kde-standard) but i can't figure out how to setup my wireless card. I am running on a hp g62. any ideas? |
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| 16:50.37 | cafaro | somiaj: in kern.log it's the same, syslog has a shitload of Oct 5 18:41:41 localhost sm-msp-queue[1480]: p92Ke1h7001474: to=postmaster, delay=2+19:58:38, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18393388, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferre |
| 16:50.41 | cafaro | d: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] |
| 16:50.49 | cafaro | messages, so I should look in to that as well.. |
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| 16:52.07 | Ja_samara | netsooz, u can use command "lcpci" to find out our wifi module model and fendor. after, u should find solution for your device at debian.org |
| 16:52.17 | Ja_samara | lspci* |
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| 16:53.17 | somiaj | netzsooc: most likely you will need firmware from the non-free reops |
| 16:53.22 | somiaj | !non-free |
| 16:53.22 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>, or are encumbered by patents or other legal issues. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system run "aptitude search '~i~scontrib'". For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 16:54.09 | somiaj | netzsooc: provided your wireless card is detedeted by the squeeze kernel, figure out what firmware its missing. Set up the non-free repos, install teh firmware. Reload the wirelss modules, you should be fine. |
| 16:54.27 | somiaj | netzsooc: dmesg will provdie you with info if its mising firmware |
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| 16:57.49 | netzsooc | somiaj, how can I know if the squeeze kernel is detecting the wireless card? |
| 16:58.14 | jhutchins_lt | netzsooc: dmesg |
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| 17:00.01 | GRMrGecko | Hello, I am needing to print a pdf to a brother printer from terminal. |
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| 17:01.26 | GRMrGecko | does cups have some command line tools to do this? |
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| 17:01.48 | netzsooc | somiaj in dmesg what I am looking for? I mean is it something like dmesg | grep wireless? |
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| 17:05.15 | netzsooc | jhutchins_lt i have done lspci and it found my wireless lan controller |
| 17:05.46 | netzsooc | jhutchins_lt so, now how can i use it to connect online |
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| 17:07.40 | netzsooc | jhutchins_lt but when I run dmesg | grep rtl it just finds the ethernet, not the wireless |
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| 17:09.58 | netzsooc | when I go to network connections in system settings (kde) the wireless can't be selected, why is that? |
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| 17:13.22 | jhutchins_lt | netzsooc: How would I know? Do I have some secret insight into hwat hardware you're using? |
| 17:13.24 | insight_ | I made a crude regular expression script in python to put the debian /usr/share/menu into an array (or whatever python calls there arrays) |
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| 17:13.47 | insight_ | Does Debian have a documentation set on doing this in python, or better yet C? |
| 17:13.49 | jhutchins_lt | netzsooc: How have you tried to set it up? interfaces? network-manager? |
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| 17:14.05 | insight_ | As in a developers doc for the debian meny system. |
| 17:14.21 | jhutchins_lt | netzsooc: If you use lspci -nn to get the eight-character PCI ID we can check it against the database here. |
| 17:14.32 | insight_ | I apologize for that, my sentences got a little messy. Again sorry. |
| 17:15.16 | netzsooc | jhutchins_lt I tried to set it up with network-manager |
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| 17:18.11 | seb82 | hey all |
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| 17:18.17 | arnoldB | "dh_installdeb: Compatibility levels before 4 are deprecated." <<< any know what this means? |
| 17:18.21 | arnoldB | *anyone |
| 17:18.26 | seb82 | Ergo^ dzjen dobre |
| 17:19.20 | insight__ | seb82, what? By the way channel, i am the fellow with the menu problem |
| 17:19.27 | netzsooc | the 8 character PCI ID is 10ec:8171 |
| 17:19.44 | seb82 | insight__, I said hello to Ergo^ in his native language |
| 17:19.50 | seb82 | what menu problem? |
| 17:20.15 | Ergo^ | dzień dobry |
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| 17:20.17 | Ergo^ | ;-) |
| 17:20.30 | seb82 | ;-) you got the message |
| 17:20.32 | insight__ | English only please? (Isn't that a rule) |
| 17:20.42 | seb82 | insight__, I know... |
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| 17:20.56 | insight__ | Seb82, my apologies i meant the channel. |
| 17:21.17 | seb82 | but wouldn't ya like it as well when you're not in your native country when you're address in your own language? |
| 17:21.25 | seb82 | *addressed |
| 17:21.32 | seb82 | insight__, wot is your problem? |
| 17:21.56 | seb82 | chaisen, guten abend... |
| 17:22.02 | seb82 | wot up chaisen? |
| 17:22.12 | insight__ | seb82, yes sir however is there not a debian channel for your language? You can speak it if you teach me. |
| 17:22.27 | insight__ | If it's German i'd like yo learn. |
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| 17:22.48 | seb82 | insight__, I know how to say hello in several languages... |
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| 17:23.17 | seb82 | but my mothertongue... erm fathertongue is english... my mothertongue is Irish... and a bit of gaelic... |
| 17:23.22 | insight__ | seb82, I want to take each file in the /usr/share/menu and evaluate it preferably in python, c or perl. |
| 17:23.38 | seb82 | so you running debian? |
| 17:23.47 | seb82 | insight__, where you from? |
| 17:24.07 | insight__ | For this problem, yes. That is why I use the debian's specifications. |
| 17:24.22 | seb82 | what problem are you running into so far? |
| 17:24.40 | insight__ | I need some developer docs, right now it is a crude way and it is inefficient. |
| 17:24.53 | seb82 | what have you done so far? |
| 17:24.54 | insight__ | Crude in my opinion. I am swedish. |
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| 17:25.15 | seb82 | erm... Swedish eey? Heey, huurs de tille? |
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| 17:25.57 | seb82 | what goal do you have in mind to evaluate every file in /usr/share/menu? |
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| 17:26.25 | insight__ | seb82, again I would prefer the debian docs as this is most likely not the proper way. |
| 17:26.32 | insight__ | However, here. |
| 17:26.58 | seb82 | still, I'd like to know what you have done so far... |
| 17:27.27 | netzsooc | according to http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#Drivers the drivers I need are on wheezy, but I installed squeeze, so, how can I upgrade? |
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| 17:28.01 | insight__ | This is my second try, the first one was nicer. http://codepad.org/xl3BRb54 |
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| 17:28.09 | Bushmills | !bpo |
| 17:28.09 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <bdo key> <backports-sloppy> <bdo xorg>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 17:28.17 | Bushmills | possibly in there too |
| 17:28.20 | insight__ | seb82, i am slow. |
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| 17:28.27 | seb82 | insight__, no worries |
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| 17:29.19 | insight__ | seb82, i did it like this the first time: split =" and than split that lower array with " |
| 17:29.34 | insight__ | However, there has to be a cleaner way. Always. |
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| 17:32.11 | seb82 | okay |
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| 17:32.17 | insight__ | ... |
| 17:32.42 | seb82 | there seems to be a flaw in line 11... |
| 17:33.11 | insight__ | No... |
| 17:33.15 | insight__ | ?package(abiword):needs=X11 section=Applications/Office title=AbiWord Word Processor command=/usr/bin/abiword hints=Word processor icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/abiword.xpm |
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| 17:33.57 | insight__ | http://codepad.org/xl3BRb54 |
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| 17:35.51 | insight__ | seb82, there must be docs somewhere... |
| 17:35.54 | kr0nic | somebody how to isntall zcs zimbra on debian6? |
| 17:36.04 | chrissbx | Hi. I'd like to have a key combo (maybe by binding it to a script) that does an X paste (mouse middle click) into (the middle of the) window that has input focus (not necessarily where the mouse pointer is) |
| 17:36.17 | chrissbx | Any ideas? |
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| 17:37.29 | chrissbx | like a ctl-v but for the X selection (and programs that don't understand ctl-v or yank, such as terminals) |
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| 17:38.06 | seb82 | shouldn't it be print re.sub("\","",str) ? |
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| 17:39.27 | seb82 | I'm not sure whether there are docs on this matter... |
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| 17:40.08 | da13371 | I'm having trouble updating a debian 6.0.2 system - cpuinfo shows: Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+. uname shows: Linux 2.6.16-2-k7 #1 i686 GNU/Linux. when i do apt-get update, it tells me: http://pastebin.com/b3wJKTsE (to do apt-get -f install). When i do apt-get -f install, it tells me: add lenny sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run: apt-get install -t lenny linux-image-2.6. |
| 17:40.08 | da13371 | (http://pastebin.com/cQ0uhgG3). When i do that i get: http://pastebin.com/RbFWKrTr (http://pastebin.com/RbFWKrTr). would anyone please help me get this updated? |
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| 17:41.55 | dvs | da13371: That is not a Debian kernel |
| 17:41.59 | seb82 | I think your approach looks pretty okay |
| 17:42.18 | sque1 | Hello, I have a bridge (br0) with IPv4 and I want to add IPv6. Where should I put the bridge directives? on "iface inet6 static" or "iface inet static" ? |
| 17:42.34 | sque1 | "iface br0 inet6 static" and "iface br0 inet static" * |
| 17:43.23 | rww | sque1: assuming it's the same as IPv6 on an eth0 interface, you should have two stanzas, one inet and one inet6 |
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| 17:44.09 | da13371 | dvs: Package linux-image-2.6 is a virtual package provided by: ... linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7 2.6.16-18~bpo.1 <- which is what i am running. which should i explicitly select for a Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+? (from the list in http://pastebin.com/RbFWKrTr)? |
| 17:44.29 | seb82 | brb asap |
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| 17:45.29 | sque1 | rww: For the real interfaces it works just fine. But for br0 I get this error "Reconfiguring network interfaces...br0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device". Howerver the interface is properly configured. So I though its because the one stranza is missing the bridge directives |
| 17:46.47 | dvs | da13371: Did you follow the instructions from the Release Notes? |
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| 17:48.14 | da13371 | dvs: i don't know enough to know that. i used the install discs long ago and have been updating the system as needed |
| 17:48.29 | da13371 | dvs: <- noob needing help fixing current state of system |
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| 17:49.26 | dvs | da13371: If you are a noob then the instructions are definitely detailed enough to try and ensure a smooth upgrade. |
| 17:49.51 | da13371 | dvs: what notes will help me fix this? |
| 17:51.34 | da13371 | where do i find which kernel i should use for a Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+? |
| 17:51.36 | dvs | da13371: Here are the detailed instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
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| 17:53.26 | mns | anyone know how to send a fax via cups ? |
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| 17:53.50 | mns | I've got a HP OfficeJet 6310 and am using Debian/wheezy |
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| 17:55.11 | da13371 | dvs: i just did this : http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#kernel-metapackage and i don't see a newer kernel similar to linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7, so i'm not sure which kernel i need to install for a Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+. |
| 17:55.29 | babilen | mns: Take a look at hylafax, don't think cups is relevant for that. You might also investigate software that comes up when you run "apt-cache search fax" |
| 17:56.03 | dvs | da13371: Use 686 |
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| 17:59.39 | AL13N | i'm trying to install a package and i fucked up things, and now it doesn't install the configuration files and directories |
| 17:59.48 | AL13N | how do i reinstall it with everything? |
| 17:59.56 | dondelelcaro | !tell AL13N -about confmiss |
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| 18:00.25 | AL13N | dondelelcaro: any idea? |
| 18:00.40 | Neonlajt | IETD and hot adding target/getting ietd to rescan, is that possible :)? |
| 18:00.40 | AL13N | dondelelcaro: bot seems down |
| 18:01.52 | da13371 | da13371: thx - how would i go about figuring that out by myself |
| 18:02.34 | dondelelcaro | AL13N: it sent you a private message explaining what to do. |
| 18:02.36 | babilen | AL13N: Check you private messages and/or run "/msg dpkg confnew" / "/msg dpkg confmiss" |
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| 18:07.38 | bmoloney | I have some NFSv4 exports that use all_squash when exporting to all of my clients (both the server and clients are running squeeze). However only some clients actually get the correct permissions (due to all_squash and anonuid/anongid options) when accessing the shares and others do not. I have triple checked the exports file to make sure they all have the same export options. Any idea what the cause could be? |
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| 18:10.15 | da13371 | great: http://pastebin.com/9CYd7HMJ - i have no idea how to fix this - apt process appears pretty broken |
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| 18:13.53 | bmoloney | da13371: did you check the PATH env variable for root? |
| 18:13.53 | lgp17118` | Hi, I installed apache2 web server on my Squeeze installation and I found that apache is listening on port 80 only over ipv6 and not ipv4 at all. Any reason why it is configured to behave so by default? |
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| 18:16.14 | da13371 | this helped: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8014915&postcount=3 |
| 18:16.15 | Dagger3 | because net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0 by default, so programs can accept v4 connections by listening on a v6 socket (they appear as connections from ::ffff:<v4addr>) |
| 18:16.27 | da13371 | was able to get lenny fully updated |
| 18:16.35 | da13371 | so now upgrade |
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| 18:18.46 | Dagger3 | (the intent is to make it easier to port software, because it allows the software to receive both v4 and v6 connections without needing to be rewritten to listen on multiple ports) |
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| 18:19.54 | lgp17118` | Dagger3: Thanks for the detailed explanation. :-) |
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| 18:31.59 | poisonbit | how could I play circus music with the pcspkr ? |
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| 18:33.27 | poisonbit | or play the beny hill music may do the job too |
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| 18:34.26 | AminCX | hi, recently i ordered a gigabit port on my server and now i have not gigabit speed, what is wrong with my settings ? http://notepub.com/#note=262348 |
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| 18:36.13 | poisonbit | is the other side giga too, and the cord is utp6? then try to disable autonegotiation |
| 18:36.47 | paulfm | hey everyone |
| 18:38.00 | AminCX | i don't know anything about cord please (if it is possible) give me a command so i can run :-D thank you |
| 18:38.10 | paulfm | ok Im going nuts here... fsck says my drive has errors, when I reboot with knoppix, fsck on the same partition says drive is clean... back into lenny... fsck says errors... has anyone else seen this before?... fsck is same version on both oSes |
| 18:38.46 | poisonbit | AminCX, ethtool autoneg off |
| 18:39.01 | poisonbit | ypu can put as pre-up in the interfaces file |
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| 18:39.56 | poisonbit | paulfm, is the system clock ok ? |
| 18:40.28 | paulfm | poisonbit: hmm... never looked |
| 18:40.30 | AminCX | @posonbit: id did that by this line in interfaces file : up ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full autoneg off |
| 18:40.37 | paulfm | poisonbit: taking a looksee |
| 18:41.34 | paulfm | poisonbit: looks like its off by 5 mins.... would that drive errors? |
| 18:41.56 | poisonbit | mmm i think that not usually |
| 18:42.18 | poisonbit | fsck counts use to be in days |
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| 18:42.45 | paulfm | poisonbit: ..hmm.... says its oct 5.. so that part is correct |
| 18:43.14 | paulfm | poisonbit: I was hoping that was it :-) |
| 18:43.18 | AminCX | this is the output of "ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full autoneg off" : http://notepub.com/#note=262352 |
| 18:43.42 | paulfm | poisonbit: I dont get it... same fsck build on both OSes.. 1.41.3 |
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| 18:44.28 | paulfm | the errors are free inodes count is wrong, free blocks count is wrong |
| 18:44.43 | paulfm | but knoppix says everything is clean |
| 18:45.08 | paulfm | both OSes see the same total block count/files count |
| 18:45.18 | carsten_db | hi! i want to set up a virtualbox with debian as guest system. the purpose is some compatibility developement. therefore, i need to be as close as possible to my target system, which is a debian x86 32bit with kernel version 2.6.26-2. where can i find an iso for a debian version as close as possible to this one? |
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| 18:45.31 | Cybertinus | hello |
| 18:45.40 | Cybertinus | in which directory does apt store its .deb files? |
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| 18:46.54 | arvind_khadri | Cybertinus, /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 18:47.34 | Cybertinus | arvind_khadri: hmm, weird. I just placed some .deb files there but apt-get still thinks he needs to download them... |
| 18:47.55 | bmoloney | blargh, NEVER use the crossmnt option... |
| 18:48.08 | arvind_khadri | Cybertinus, install them. |
| 18:48.29 | poisonbit | Cybertinus, or run apt-get update after put the files there |
| 18:48.29 | dvs | Cybertinus: If you downloaded packages manually, you can install them using "dpkg -i" |
| 18:49.14 | Cybertinus | poisonbit: does it matter that the debian install can't connect to the update servers? :) |
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| 18:49.51 | poisonbit | Cybertinus, maybe |
| 18:49.53 | Cybertinus | for some reason I only have SSH access to this server. Every other port (in and out) don't work atm. |
| 18:50.01 | jhutchins | Cybertinus: Only if you're trying to update. |
| 18:50.14 | poisonbit | if it is a debian with a default ssh, will have port forwarding enabled |
| 18:50.38 | Cybertinus | hmm, it could do the trick :) |
| 18:50.44 | benja | Hello, i'm building a package which install Makefile target tries to $INSTALL with a user/group that are to be created in postinst script, that obviously fails. What is correct way to handle that kind of situation (which i believe must be common) ? thanks |
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| 18:52.01 | PerfDave | benja: You might want to talk to #debian-devel |
| 18:52.11 | Cybertinus | I've used dpkg -i, and it looks like that that is gonna work. I just need to scp another .deb to get tcpdump installed |
| 18:52.12 | DammitJim | anyone have paypal? |
| 18:52.12 | poisonbit | I don't know about packaging, but I could try create the user in a pre-inst ? |
| 18:52.29 | benja | PerfDave: ok i'll post there. Thanks ! |
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| 18:53.21 | unkmar | is frustrated |
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| 18:58.48 | da13371 | how can i see which kernel images i have installed, and how can i tell my system which of the installed images i want it to boot by default? |
| 18:59.00 | Grav | Is it me or default fonts on debian 6 feels off? |
| 18:59.04 | da13371 | i installed a newer kernel than the one that my system auto-booted into |
| 18:59.17 | da13371 | trying to get it to use the newer one |
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| 18:59.46 | jhutchins | Grav: It's you. |
| 19:00.13 | Grav | jhutchins: damn:) |
| 19:00.13 | jhutchins | da13371: By default it will boot to the most recent kernel if you install from debian packages. |
| 19:00.45 | carsten_db | i'm looking for a debian 5 (!) download, but don't find one. can someone please provide me with a link? |
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| 19:01.30 | unkmar | gnome, .xsessionrc, xbindkeys. Loss of nearly all keyboard functionality. |
| 19:02.08 | unkmar | If my .xsessionrc is empty and I login and then run xbindkeys, then all is good. |
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| 19:03.21 | da13371 | jhujhiti: i did apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686. in /boot/grub/menu.lst, that is the first one listed, but that file says "default 2", and assuming it counts from 0 (not 1), it is booting into kernel 2.6.19-rc1-1-486, which is third in the list. |
| 19:03.27 | unkmar | If my .xsessionrc contains xbindkeys and I login, Then I can't type. Nearly all functionality is gone, and I can still switch to the Virtual Terminals. Alt+Ctrl+F2 and such. |
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| 19:03.53 | unkmar | What might be the fundamental reason it breaks? |
| 19:04.11 | da13371 | jhutchins: i did apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686. in /boot/grub/menu.lst, that is the first one listed, but that file says "default 2", and assuming it counts from 0 (not 1), it is booting into kernel 2.6.19-rc1-1-486, which is third in the list. |
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| 19:06.35 | da13371 | jhutchins: how do i properly make the system boot to the linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 kernel instead of the 2.6.19-rc1-1-486 kernel? i am wondering/worried about why it didn't automatically boot into the new kernel as I did install it from debian packages. |
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| 19:07.41 | babilen | Grav: You might want to install iceweasel from http://mozilla.debian.net (or rather the cairo depends there) which include fixes/enahncement for font rendering on TFTs -- That might cure them "being off" :) |
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| 19:10.01 | babilen | !tell carsten_db -about install lenny |
| 19:10.08 | babilen | carsten_db: ... last link |
| 19:10.51 | carsten_db | thanks |
| 19:11.13 | babilen | carsten_db: But to satisfy my horribly curiosity: Why lenny? |
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| 19:12.53 | Woet | bad babilen |
| 19:13.00 | Woet | you know the answer will terrify you |
| 19:13.02 | Woet | and everyone else |
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| 19:13.25 | Grav | babilen: I'm using FF 10:P But still fonts in iceweasel fonts look the same. I used ubuntu and windows before, but in debian those fonts bug me. |
| 19:14.29 | carsten_db | babilen: i'm running archlinux myself, but i've got a box running debian 5 kernel 2.6.26 at work. i don't have admin rights there and want to compile something that uses a special library (PoDoFo) that's not installed there. then i figured that putting up a VM with a debian-version as close as possible to the one i have at work might enable me to compile in the virtualbox with statically... |
| 19:14.30 | carsten_db | ...linked libraries and then bring the compiled binary to the debian box :-) |
| 19:14.36 | babilen | Grav: Then pull the cairo package from http://mozilla.debian.net , but why don't you use iceweasel? |
| 19:15.14 | babilen | carsten_db: thanks :) |
| 19:16.30 | Grav | babilen: I don't know how much different it is from FF. I need FF for web development first. |
| 19:16.47 | carsten_db | just one last thing: why are there 5 DVDs??? is the system really that unbelievably large or am i missing out something? |
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| 19:17.14 | Woet | carsten_db: it includes all possible packages and software |
| 19:17.20 | Woet | carsten_db: sorted by popularity |
| 19:17.35 | Woet | carsten_db: dvd 1 has the most popular packages + debian, dvd 2 till 5 have more packages |
| 19:17.35 | unkmar | carsten_db: you only need the first CD/DVD to install, in fact you could use a network install. They are even smaller, You simply download what you need. |
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| 19:17.49 | Woet | carsten_db: so go for netinstall unless you don't have internet :) |
| 19:17.51 | Vib3 | hi |
| 19:18.03 | Vib3 | please help with squeeze and ati drivers |
| 19:18.14 | Vib3 | i have made some progress -> http://pastebin.com/RQKb5qd4 |
| 19:18.22 | babilen | Grav: IW *is* FF - icons ... but that is not actually relevant. I am talking about the cairo packages here http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release/binary-amd64/Packages |
| 19:18.29 | fignewman | I've noticed this for a while and thought I'd ask here in case it's an iceweasel vs. firefox difference. Dragging of tabs sometimes stops working and I have to restart iceweasel. There's an upstream bug filed, but it's marked unconfirmed and no workarounds are posted. Anyone else see this and know how to work around it? |
| 19:18.43 | carsten_db | woet, unkmar: is a netinstall also still possible for lenny? |
| 19:18.53 | Woet | probably |
| 19:19.02 | babilen | Grav: I would personally suggest to run IW from Debian (you can get release/aurora and beta releases there) |
| 19:19.21 | Woet | anyways, just to fuel babilen's horrible curiosity |
| 19:19.23 | babilen | !tell Grav about why iceweasel |
| 19:19.33 | Woet | carsten_db: why all this trouble instead of just updating your box to the latest, up to date, secure debian version? |
| 19:19.45 | babilen | Woet: hehe :) |
| 19:19.52 | carsten_db | woet: the box is at work, i don't have admin rights :-) |
| 19:20.01 | Woet | carsten_db: then hack it |
| 19:20.12 | Woet | or social engineer the people who do have admin rights |
| 19:20.13 | Woet | or get another job |
| 19:20.16 | Woet | lots of possibilities! |
| 19:20.18 | babilen | s/hack/convince somebody to schedule an upgrade/ |
| 19:20.19 | unkmar | carsten_db: it was about 1 month ago when I did it. |
| 19:20.20 | Woet | go single user mode |
| 19:21.07 | carsten_db | unkmar: hm ok, but under http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.9/i386/ i only see the full install iso versions. can you point me to a netinstall one? |
| 19:21.10 | Grav | babilen: is it only name change? |
| 19:22.55 | babilen | Grav: More or less, yes. -- But regarding your fonts ... it might be that all you need are those new cairo packages. They are currently available from http://mozilla.debian.net which is why I linked you there. |
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| 19:23.36 | babilen | carsten_db: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.9/i386/iso-cd/ (search for netinst) |
| 19:24.05 | carsten_db | babilen: ah ok, i was simply too blind. thanks a lot! |
| 19:24.12 | babilen | carsten_db: You are welcome :) |
| 19:24.43 | Grav | babilen: thanks i will check it soon |
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| 19:26.30 | Woet | you would have completed updating by now carsten_db |
| 19:26.34 | Woet | :p |
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| 19:27.04 | unkmar | Updating usually breaks for me. Clean installs are safer. Both are messy. |
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| 19:27.37 | Woet | updating never breaks for me |
| 19:27.43 | carsten_db | Woet: :-P |
| 19:27.43 | Woet | 500+ machines |
| 19:27.47 | Woet | etch to lenny, lenny to squeeze |
| 19:27.56 | babilen | unkmar: What? *Many* people upgraded their Debian systems over many years. Recommending new installations is absolutely not necessary. |
| 19:28.01 | Woet | probably all unique hardware and enviroments |
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| 19:28.18 | Woet | unkmar: are you confusing this channel with another, way suckier distribution, that doesn't even support upgrading? :p |
| 19:28.31 | Woet | and starts with cent |
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| 19:28.59 | babilen | Woet: No need to bash Ubuntu, but it is true that less attention is given to upgrades there. |
| 19:29.03 | Woet | ah |
| 19:29.06 | Woet | centuntu! |
| 19:29.11 | Woet | you are awesome babilen |
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| 19:29.22 | Woet | you ruined my entire point |
| 19:29.23 | Woet | :p |
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| 19:30.11 | Woet | babilen: i've done numerous problem-free ubuntu upgrades too :) |
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| 19:30.26 | Woet | so i wasn't talking about that distribution |
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| 19:30.31 | babilen | ack |
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| 19:31.50 | geekbri | good god, learning to create your own .deb's is a total headache. Anybody have a real good and simple resource for creating .debs? I've managed to successfully create one, but i dont understand how to run certain commands after install (IE copy configuration files to locations)... also I cant seem to understand how to write the part of the .deb that cleans up when its getting removed |
| 19:33.00 | babilen | !tell geekbri -about mentors |
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| 19:33.32 | babilen | geekbri: There are plenty of guides online. The canonical resource is the new maintainer's guide (/msg dpkg nmg) though |
| 19:33.37 | Tigerboy | anyone hear of Gnome desktop taking over the screen area in an XFCE session? |
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| 19:37.31 | babilen | geekbri: http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=640 (also packaged as packaging-tutorial) as well as http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging is good too. But I would suggest to ask further questions in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 19:38.01 | geekbri | thanks, im going ot read through this guide first and then hopefully i'll get to the point where i can ask further questions :) |
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| 19:38.20 | babilen | geekbri: Err, that should have been http://wiki.debian.org/Packaging |
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| 19:40.27 | babilen | geekbri: Good idea -- See you in #d-mentors then :) -- You might also enjoy watching https://penta.debconf.org/dc9_schedule/events/418.en.html (and yeah, read up on debhelper >= 7) |
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| 19:41.19 | geekbri | rgr that |
| 19:42.29 | unkmar | geekbri: the .deb creating headache is why I have never attempted it. |
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| 19:42.45 | geekbri | its certainly not easy to understand :) |
| 19:43.07 | denom | How do I load a kernel module at boot time? I'm on the debian modules page but I don't understand the `alias` stuff? |
| 19:43.18 | denom | I'm trying to load the `pciehp` module |
| 19:43.23 | babilen | denom: Just add it to /etc/modules |
| 19:43.30 | denom | ok thanks! |
| 19:45.24 | seb82 | back |
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| 19:46.22 | wuffi600 | hi |
| 19:46.44 | wuffi600 | is there a way to install openoffice-writer without javare on squeeze? |
| 19:46.50 | twobitsprite | I have some messages queued in my exim4 server which are unroutable, but when it fails to try to route them it generates an e-mail which is also unroutable, cascading slowly over time... what can be the cause of this and what can I do? |
| 19:46.56 | twobitsprite | this is a new install so I'm sure it's just a config issue... it seems to want to route locally generated mail destined for root to root@mydomain.com (where mydomain.com is my domain name) |
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| 19:48.20 | PerfDave | twobitsprite: Is that what /etc/aliases says? |
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| 19:48.42 | twobitsprite | PerfDave: root is aliased to my local user, neither of which are qualified with a domain |
| 19:49.18 | seb82 | wuffi600 why do you need write? You could install abiword instead... |
| 19:49.26 | PerfDave | twobitsprite: OK, how's your exim configured? If it's configured to send all local mail to a smarthost... |
| 19:49.40 | twobitsprite | PerfDave: no smarthost configured |
| 19:49.57 | twobitsprite | PerfDave: I have the split configs, and it's set up as an "internet site" |
| 19:50.30 | bmoloney | is there an equivalent to 'full-upgrage' for doing an install with aptitude? For example when doing an unattended install of something from backports (like libreoffice) that needs to remove existing packages (like openoffice). |
| 19:50.43 | PerfDave | twobitsprite: What do the exim logs say? |
| 19:50.51 | twobitsprite | PerfDave: I have "dc_other_hostnames" set to the fqdn of the server |
| 19:51.12 | PerfDave | twobitsprite: How are you configuring exim? |
| 19:51.58 | wuffi600 | seb82: unfortunately abiword isn't fully compatible to ooo-writer. |
| 19:52.20 | twobitsprite | PerfDave: the mainlog just says "message is frozen", but the log in /var/spool/exim4/msglog for those e-mails says "routing failed for root@mydomain.com: Unroutable address" |
| 19:52.31 | seb82 | wuffi600 why do you need ooo-writer? |
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| 19:52.47 | wuffi600 | seb82: i could install lenny in an chroot-environment and there install the old oo-writer that does not need jre... |
| 19:53.15 | twobitsprite | PerfDave: well... I used debconf to configure it initially, then I installed sa-exim do it did it's config stuff |
| 19:53.15 | PerfDave | wuffi600: Why don't you want to install a JRE? |
| 19:53.33 | PerfDave | twobitsprite: Did it work before sa-exim? |
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| 19:54.02 | seb82 | wuffi600: why don't you want jre? |
| 19:54.08 | twobitsprite | I don't recall... not sure I gave it enough time to see :) ... external addresses work just fine though |
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| 19:54.23 | wuffi600 | seb82: i've a huge bunch of document-templates made with oo |
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| 19:54.50 | seb82 | wuffy600: I see... how much? |
| 19:55.01 | bmoloney | ah, apparently I need the '--full-resolver' option |
| 19:56.05 | babilen | wuffi600: Just install it without recommends (apt-get --no-install-recommends install openoffice.org-writer) |
| 19:56.31 | babilen | wuffi600: I can't tell you which OO functionality you will be missing if you do that though. |
| 19:57.34 | da13371 | i did apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686. in /boot/grub/menu.lst, that is the first one listed, but it also says "default 2". I am assuming menu.list default selection counts from 0 (not 1), because it is booting into kernel 2.6.19-rc1-1-486, which is 3rd in the list at the bottom of menu.lst. how do i properly make the system boot to the linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 kernel instead of the |
| 19:57.34 | da13371 | 2.6.19-rc1-1-486 kernel? i am wondering/worried about why it didn't automatically boot into the new kernel as I did install it from debian packages. |
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| 20:05.25 | seb82 | is there a way to force the system to use the swap memory, because I've got the feeling my system doesn't use it that much/at all... |
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| 20:06.12 | PerfDave | seb82: Why would you want it to use swap? |
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| 20:06.20 | wuffi600 | babilen: thank you very much. your hint was excellent. http://pastebin.com/S47EQRmm It's working. wonderful. Every Day there is something to learn, Thank you |
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| 20:07.14 | seb82 | since I only have 640 mb ram... 128 goes to my internal videocard... |
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| 20:09.00 | GNU\colossus | trust me, you don't WANT your system to swap out pages. |
| 20:09.09 | GNU\colossus | if it decides it doesn't need to, then: good for you! |
| 20:09.14 | babilen | wuffi600: You are most welcome :) |
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| 20:10.08 | MartyD | heya guys! my lappy has dual graphics, can I expect to make my Radeon 6470M work over the 4250M? Chipset is a RS880M |
| 20:10.17 | Bushmills | seb, you can run a program which allows you to allocate and fill a chunk of memory, forcing your system to swap out some RAM to accommodate your memory needs |
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| 20:10.36 | Bushmills | for example, fill some huge array with bash |
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| 20:11.13 | Bushmills | when releasing that memory again, a good part of your RAM should be swapped out |
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| 20:11.55 | seb82 | welly swap space, i meant htat...the system doesnt' seem to be using at al... |
| 20:12.47 | Bushmills | it will if it has to. if there's swap space available, that is. |
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| 20:16.06 | seb82 | owkay, how cwhere can Iprogram? |
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| 20:17.02 | PerfDave | seb82: Your kernel will use swap when it needs it. You don't want it to use it if it doesn't need it, because it's slow. |
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| 20:17.51 | seb82 | sowwy bout the typos, sysstem s runnign overt time |
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| 20:19.25 | bambanx | how i can set fo SD card my debian |
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| 20:20.14 | stack | hello, I was wondering why of this error under debian 6, (note that I have php-apc package instlalled) http://pastebin.com/wGqVfy2t |
| 20:20.18 | Bushmills | you could for example gforth -m 500000000, and there, to allocate, repeat here 1000000000 dup allot $ff fill several times until enough RAM has been wasted for being filled with set bits |
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| 20:21.55 | Bushmills | drop one zero from 1000000000 :) |
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| 20:22.58 | da13371 | how to i tell debian which installed kernel i want it to boot by default (remote access only - i cant select it in the grub menu during system boot) |
| 20:23.08 | da13371 | (no access till ssh up and running) |
| 20:23.22 | da13371 | (unless i pay the datacenter to hook up kvm) |
| 20:23.28 | da13371 | (which i'd like to avoid) |
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| 20:24.06 | Bushmills | da13371: check /etc/default/grub |
| 20:24.58 | da13371 | Bushmills: no such file |
| 20:25.14 | babilen | ... and read "info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'" and in particular the description of the GRUB_DEFAULT setting |
| 20:25.30 | babilen | da13371: Are you using grub1? Which version of Debian is this? |
| 20:25.49 | da13371 | babilen: info: grub: No such file or directory |
| 20:26.08 | babilen | most likely not grub2 then :) |
| 20:26.08 | seb82 | thx Bushmills |
| 20:26.09 | da13371 | i did apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686. in /boot/grub/menu.lst, that is the first one listed, but it also says "default 2". I am assuming menu.list default selection counts from 0 (not 1), because it is booting into kernel 2.6.19-rc1-1-486, which is 3rd in the list at the bottom of menu.lst. how do i properly make the system boot to the linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 kernel instead of the |
| 20:26.09 | da13371 | 2.6.19-rc1-1-486 kernel? i am wondering/worried about why it didn't automatically boot into the new kernel as I did install it from debian packages. |
| 20:26.16 | da13371 | it's lenny |
| 20:26.37 | da13371 | 6.0.2 in debian_version |
| 20:26.50 | babilen | 6.0.2 == squeeze :) |
| 20:27.09 | Bushmills | ,kernels |
| 20:27.10 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); wheezy: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-35squeeze2); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27) |
| 20:27.12 | babilen | da13371: Edit it to say "default 1" ? |
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| 20:27.21 | Bushmills | weird |
| 20:27.22 | babilen | da13371: Where is this .19 kernel from? |
| 20:27.46 | babilen | I have to confess though that my grub1-nish is a bit rusty |
| 20:27.48 | da13371 | babilen: it's at default 2 now, and it booted the third option in the list. should it be default 0 instead of default 1? |
| 20:28.05 | Bushmills | zero based. yes |
| 20:28.28 | babilen | Whatever number corresponds to your kernel .. first entry is 0, you do the counting |
| 20:28.34 | da13371 | i've been trying to update to squeeze, but it's been failing miserably because it's not using a recent enough kernel (probably among other things) |
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| 20:28.43 | da13371 | cool |
| 20:29.16 | babilen | da13371: So you haven't been following the release notes? This is rather important for the upgrade to squeeze as you need to upgrade udev/kernel before the rest of the system. |
| 20:29.31 | babilen | !tell da13371 -about release notes |
| 20:29.36 | da13371 | so is there some command i should do to PROPERLY set the default to zero in debian (worried that it didn't happen automatically), or is editing /boot/grub/menu.lst manually the proper way? |
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| 20:30.13 | babilen | da13371: I would recommend to use grub2 anyway and manually editing menu.lst is nothing really bad as long as it gets the job done |
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| 20:30.22 | da13371 | im trying to upgrade the kernel, obviously, and im following the release notes as of about 1.5 hours ago when dvs yelled at my noob ass about it |
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| 20:33.57 | babilen | da13371: hehe ... /me pats dvs |
| 20:34.24 | scoobertron | is anyone using dmenu? is it possible to make it transparent with xcompmgr? xprop doesn't seem to work with it, so I can't id the window class |
| 20:35.14 | da13371 | babilen: why are upgrades so hard - would think someone would have made a script that does it all for you easily by now |
| 20:35.34 | stepkrav | hello. How do we checksum the installed packages in debian? How do we verify them? |
| 20:35.38 | ompaul | da13371: because not all installs are identical |
| 20:35.41 | seb82 | dal13371: we have todo some work afterall... |
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| 20:36.30 | ompaul | da13371: you should think about the possible moves on a chess board, and understand you have more possible combinations with 30k or so packages |
| 20:36.32 | da13371 | i have to do some work too. that's why im suprised to be spending a whole day updating the system i need to do my work :P lol |
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| 20:36.57 | mooperd | hallo. I would I go about making hardware available for testing? |
| 20:36.59 | seb82 | never takes me that long... |
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| 20:37.07 | ompaul | da13371: what is the function of that box? and +1 for seb82 |
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| 20:37.13 | da13371 | gives seb82 cookie |
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| 20:37.31 | seb82 | thx ompaul |
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| 20:37.37 | da13371 | btw, thank you ALL for your help - i REALLY do appreciate it |
| 20:37.44 | ompaul | da13371: what is the function of that box? |
| 20:37.44 | da13371 | sincerely |
| 20:37.57 | da13371 | ompaul: test development environment |
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| 20:38.38 | ompaul | da13371: a clean build is less than one hour if you have bandwidth and it is a server like install so you'd have your data backed up, just saying .. |
| 20:39.11 | da13371 | it's a server on the other side of the world |
| 20:39.29 | ompaul | da13371: no install media and someone to kick it off? |
| 20:39.32 | ompaul | guess not |
| 20:39.34 | da13371 | nope |
| 20:39.54 | ompaul | get a data center near you next time :) |
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| 20:40.56 | da13371 | well, changing menu.lst manually led to an "i need them to install the kvm" situation. |
| 20:41.01 | da13371 | not coming back up |
| 20:41.04 | da13371 | o well |
| 20:42.27 | seb82 | dall13371: did you do grub-update? |
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| 20:43.47 | ws2k3 | hello people i have some files on my harddisk that i wanne serv true the web. can i make a symlink from /var/www/mydirectory to /home/user/data for example? then i can get files from that directory? true www? |
| 20:43.51 | da13371 | seb82: nope - didn't know to do that |
| 20:45.10 | carsten_db | i'm currently installing debian lenny as guest in a virtualbox (netinstall iso). however - when it comes to "Select and install Software", it stops at 1% and doesn't go any further. suggestions? |
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| 20:45.35 | Bushmills | da13371: no rescue system which you can activate from a web interface to mount your disk based system, fix it, and reboot? |
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| 20:46.42 | mutante | got a package in dpkg state "pi", want it ot be "ii" again. can i, without completely removing it first? |
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| 21:00.12 | da13371 | Bushmills |
| 21:00.21 | da13371 | Bushmills: asking colo to put kvm on |
| 21:00.25 | StarFire_ | hi all |
| 21:00.30 | da13371 | Bushmills: $50 mistake. |
| 21:01.05 | StarFire_ | My printer is no longer found since cups updated to 1.5 ... |
| 21:01.20 | jelly-home | mutante: just ask apt-get or aptitude to install it |
| 21:01.24 | PerfDave | ws2k3: Sounds like a bad idea. Apache has some interesting rules about following symlinks for security reasons - better to just keep the files in /var/www/ |
| 21:01.28 | Bushmills | burglars? |
| 21:01.54 | mutante | jelly-home: had to remove and install to turn it into ii again |
| 21:02.13 | StarFire_ | Bushmills: No, it still stands there where I left it... ;-) |
| 21:02.34 | mutante | jelly-home: otherwise it was like "already installed", but stay 'pi'.. hmm |
| 21:02.35 | StarFire_ | I meant in my home network |
| 21:03.03 | jelly-home | mutante: it didn't work with just "apt-get install foo" without removing it? |
| 21:03.11 | mutante | jelly-home: no.. shrug |
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| 21:03.38 | StarFire_ | It's a HP LaserJet 1200 on a netgear print server |
| 21:03.41 | jelly-home | yeah pretty much shrug |
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| 21:04.01 | mutante | well its ok now, thanks |
| 21:05.15 | Bushmills | StarFire_: i can use my lj4100 and lj5mx with 1.5 |
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| 21:05.46 | StarFire_ | Bushmills: How di you configure them? localhost:631? |
| 21:06.04 | Bushmills | no. both are networked |
| 21:06.20 | Bushmills | i.e. by hostname which resolves to their ip addresses |
| 21:06.47 | StarFire_ | Yes, but you had to configure cups that it uses them... How did you do that? |
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| 21:07.05 | Bushmills | oh, you mean how did i call cups configuration? |
| 21:07.20 | Bushmills | yes. through cups web interface on 631 |
| 21:07.21 | StarFire_ | Bushmills: yes, sorry. My question was misleading |
| 21:08.01 | StarFire_ | hmm |
| 21:08.35 | StarFire_ | cups does not find my printer ani more |
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| 21:15.33 | vxp_ | i'm trying to install Debian on a rather broken ex-Debian system w/ debootstrap (8), but it fails w/ `E: Couldn't download dists/squeeze/main/binary-i386/Packages' right after `I: Retrieving Packages' |
| 21:17.37 | jelly-home | vxp_: can you pastebin the whole output? |
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| 21:18.08 | jelly-home | including the debootstrap command line? |
| 21:18.31 | vxp_ | nvm |
| 21:18.40 | vxp_ | my mistake |
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| 21:19.04 | jelly-home | yay you fixed it |
| 21:19.14 | mdik | hi. after upgrading my unstable installation i seem to be stumbling upon bug #631127 which involves strigi and smtp authentication in kmail. i wonder: how are those two connected? |
| 21:19.23 | mdik | how can a missing strigi installation hinder my smtp auth.? |
| 21:21.18 | netzsooc_ | hello, I just installed squeeze and then I changed /etc/apt/sources.list in order to upgrade to wheezy, but now Debian is not working |
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| 21:23.08 | Bushmills | !wheezy |
| 21:23.10 | dpkg | The release after squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie), and will be Debian 7.0. Ask me about <testing>. #debian-next on irc.debian.org. |
| 21:23.53 | Bushmills | determine why "debian isn't working", report it as bug and pride yourself of hopefully having contributed towards improving debian |
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| 21:24.46 | mdik | netzsooc_: more info, please. |
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| 21:27.14 | netzsooc_ | mdik after I changed sources.list I did aptitude update and aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 21:27.35 | tharkun | What is that url that checks if a site is up or down? |
| 21:27.57 | StarFire_ | Trying the old trick: uninstall and re-install the whole thing (cups) |
| 21:28.02 | netzsooc_ | mdik and when it finished everything was black |
| 21:28.15 | ompaul | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ |
| 21:28.22 | tharkun | ompaul: thanks |
| 21:28.23 | ompaul | tharkun: ^^ |
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| 21:28.43 | netzsooc_ | mdik my laptop has an atidriver and I am reading that this might be the issue, but now I don't know how to fix it without installing squeeze again |
| 21:29.52 | mdik | netzsooc_: have you tried turning it off and on again? |
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| 21:30.16 | babilen | netzsooc_: Are you using radeon? I guess it is booting but that X is not working? We still need more information. I also have to congratulate you on one of the qotd worthiest sentences today :) |
| 21:30.38 | netzsooc_ | mdik yes, I tried and still black, it seems like going ok until it tries to start kdm |
| 21:30.39 | babilen | netzsooc_: s/radeon/radeon or fglrx/ |
| 21:31.02 | mdik | netzsooc_: there might be a way to get at least the terminal going by giving some kernel options in grub. but you might search for hints like this on the forums yourself. if you have specific questions regarding those hints, feel free |
| 21:31.31 | babilen | netzsooc_: Which driver are you using? |
| 21:31.42 | StarFire_ | didn't work... ;-( |
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| 21:32.05 | mdik | netzsooc_: have you tried switching to a TTY via ctrl+alt+F1 (or F2 etc.) ? |
| 21:32.09 | netzsooc_ | babilen could you please tell me how to know the driver? |
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| 21:32.33 | netzsooc_ | mdik yes I tried, but still nothing |
| 21:32.37 | babilen | netzsooc_: Can you change to tty1? |
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| 21:33.08 | StarFire_ | hmm... |
| 21:33.08 | netzsooc_ | as far as I have read I have to reinstall squeeze and then do something with the drivers, but that part I can't understand |
| 21:33.22 | babilen | netzsooc_: (i.e. does CTRL-ALT-F1 get you a console) |
| 21:33.28 | StarFire_ | Maybe I should turn on the printer that should be found... |
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| 21:33.37 | netzsooc_ | babilen no, it doesnot, everything is black |
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| 21:33.59 | netzsooc_ | but right now I am using same computer but with other distro, and everything is ok |
| 21:34.04 | mdik | netzsooc_: boot with a live-cd and delete the Sxxkdm entries from the /etc/rcX.d/ directories |
| 21:34.30 | babilen | mdik: what the hell are you suggesting? That will do more harm than good. |
| 21:34.35 | mdik | then you can use the console to fix the driver problems, netzsooc_ |
| 21:35.09 | netzsooc_ | can I fix those problems from another distro in the same computer? |
| 21:35.20 | netzsooc_ | debian is in it's own partition |
| 21:35.24 | mdik | netzsooc_: or use the distor youre currently on to remove/move those files (they are only links to /etc/init.d/kdm anyway...) |
| 21:35.37 | StarFire_ | I have to go to bed. good night |
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| 21:36.50 | babilen | netzsooc_: I'll be back in a second -- I would suggest to chroot into your Debian system in the meanwhile (see "/msg dpkg fixmbr" for instructions on how to do that (do *not* fiddle with grub though) -- paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the output of "dpkg -l '*fglrx*'" to http://paste.debian.net |
| 21:37.00 | mdik | netzsooc_: you can mount this partition and then move those links, so your computer wont try entering graphics mode, so you can at least work on the console. i dont see what harm could be done, babilen |
| 21:37.22 | babilen | mdik: Removing all S** links is really not a good idea |
| 21:37.39 | babilen | mdik: Ah, kdm ... nvm |
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| 21:44.23 | netzsooc_ | mdik Sxxkdm I guess is S[0-9][0-9]kdm am I right? |
| 21:45.04 | mdik | netzsooc_: yeah |
| 21:45.48 | mdik | netzsooc_: do something like: find /etc -name "S*kdm" > /etc/savethepathessoyouremember.txt |
| 21:45.54 | mdik | before you erase them |
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| 21:48.05 | netzsooc_ | ok, and after deliting them it is supposed that I am going to be able to start tty? |
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| 21:50.47 | netzsooc_ | but couldn't I try to fix it from the distro I am running now mdik? |
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| 21:51.18 | geekbri | i'm a little confused as to how i would add sid deb-src to my apt list if i wanted to download some source packages from sid. can anybody shed some light on this for me? |
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| 21:52.00 | ompaul | geekbri: what system are you running at this time |
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| 21:52.20 | netzsooc_ | sorry I made a mistake |
| 21:52.30 | netzsooc_ | but couldn't I try to fix it from the distro I am running now mdik? |
| 21:52.44 | geekbri | ompaul: im running squeeze, i just wanted to download the source package for php 5.3.8 |
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| 21:53.01 | mdik | netzsooc: i'm not familiar enough with chroots, so i cant say. but you should be able to boot your wheezy without getting a black screen |
| 21:53.55 | mdik | geekbri: cant you just download it from packages.debian.org? |
| 21:53.57 | ompaul | geekbri: I'll aslk the bot to send you some messages deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
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| 21:54.20 | ompaul | !tell geekbri about sbs |
| 21:54.42 | ompaul | !tell geekbri about ssb |
| 21:54.44 | abrotman | uh .. |
| 21:54.45 | geekbri | i think that might have been the wrong message is it told me about a simple blog system! |
| 21:54.59 | ompaul | geekbri: look again |
| 21:55.06 | ompaul | abrotman: too slow ;-) but yea |
| 21:55.12 | ompaul | time for me to stop |
| 21:55.26 | ompaul | night |
| 21:56.38 | gnarface | anyone here know slapd? i'm trying to figure out why my cn=config doesn't seem to be recognized |
| 21:57.20 | netzsooc_ | babilen I think the problem is not GRUB it was ok with squeeze and it allows me to enter to a different distro |
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| 21:59.15 | wuffi600 | may i ask a question: the java libraries (classpath and others from project icedtea) come with openjdk in bytecode compiled form. Are there any "-dev"-Packages that offer these libraries that they can be used with gcj to develop os- and architecture-dependent binaries? (i would like to use the icedtea libs instead of gnu classpath) |
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| 22:01.02 | abrotman | gnarface: by the daemon or client? |
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| 22:04.40 | gnarface | abrotman: by the daemon. by slapd |
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| 22:06.50 | abrotman | gnarface: is there an error? |
| 22:07.11 | abrotman | gnarface: possibly also reserved .. |
| 22:08.12 | gnarface | abrotman: no error, but i wonder if i created it wrong? |
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| 22:10.33 | gnarface | abrotman: where is it supposed to sit in the database heirarchy? in slapd.d style config? |
| 22:10.42 | gnarface | abrotman: instead of slapd.conf |
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| 22:11.56 | da13371 | seb82 |
| 22:12.39 | da13371 | seb82: so i didn't grub update after making changes to menu.lst - with kvm access, how to fix system that failed to boot? |
| 22:13.25 | jordanm | da13371: does the KVM allow mounting a virtual cdrom? |
| 22:13.38 | aypea[2] | jes |
| 22:13.40 | aypea[2] | yes |
| 22:13.57 | aypea[2] | generally uses iso files. |
| 22:14.02 | jordanm | mount a live cd, chroot into your install and run update-grup |
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| 22:14.24 | abrotman | gnarface: oh, that i'm not sure .. the docs in /usr/share/doc/slapd/ don't say about the .d stuff? |
| 22:15.08 | gnarface | abrotman: they say that it is now the default instead of slapd.conf ... but i think i may have hosed mine using migrationtools |
| 22:16.05 | abrotman | can you start from scratch ? |
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| 22:17.12 | gnarface | abrotman: do you know of a command to just re-initialize the database? back to defaults or whatever? |
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| 22:18.57 | mark76 | Brian Eno's using open source as a metaphor on Newsnight |
| 22:19.06 | mark76 | Awesome :D |
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| 22:20.32 | abrotman | gnarface: well, you could trash the DB files, then probably reinstall the package |
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| 22:21.10 | nathwill | metaphor for what |
| 22:21.26 | gnarface | *sigh* |
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| 22:21.44 | gnarface | abrotman: its not even clear to me from the docs whether this was supposed to have been set up or not |
| 22:21.54 | gnarface | abrotman: so reinstalling might not fix the problem |
| 22:21.58 | abrotman | gnarface: you're an ldap newb :) |
| 22:22.02 | mark76 | For the way people make music these days |
| 22:22.10 | gnarface | abrotman: do the docs have to all suck so bad? |
| 22:23.04 | abrotman | gnarface: they're not that bad .. if you want ot see bad, try to do RADIUS |
| 22:23.41 | abrotman | gnarface: in short, you can remove the DB files, then create the base node again, then do the ldapadd all over again |
| 22:23.42 | gnarface | indeed |
| 22:23.48 | abrotman | then begin adding your 'leafs' |
| 22:24.11 | gnarface | abrotman: is cn=config supposed to be the base node? in all the docs its the base node |
| 22:24.21 | gnarface | abrotman: but in the SETUP docs, it tells you to create your own base node |
| 22:24.39 | abrotman | gnarface: i doubt you want it to be 'config' .. what's your dc,dc ? |
| 22:24.58 | abrotman | so you want it to be like cn=config,dc=gnarface,dc=org ? |
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| 22:25.21 | gnarface | abrotman: well that's how i made it |
| 22:25.21 | abrotman | gnarface: i will tell you that the oreilly book about ldap is pretty good |
| 22:25.33 | gnarface | abrotman: noted. i noticed its a bit old |
| 22:25.42 | abrotman | gnarface: you think ldap has changed that much? |
| 22:25.46 | gnarface | abrotman: no idea |
| 22:25.51 | abrotman | it hasn't |
| 22:26.06 | abrotman | so your 'rootdn' is cn=config,dc=gnarface,dc=org ? |
| 22:26.07 | gnarface | abrotman: so cn=config,dc=gnarface,dc=org is where cn=config goes right? |
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| 22:26.17 | gnarface | abrotman: no my root is dc=gnarface,dc=org |
| 22:26.28 | abrotman | rootdn |
| 22:26.33 | gnarface | abrotman: dc=dev,dc=gnarface,dc=org actually, but i doubt it matters |
| 22:26.49 | abrotman | no, that part doesn't |
| 22:26.59 | gnarface | so everything is inside dc=dev,dc=gnarface,dc=org |
| 22:27.02 | abrotman | right |
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| 22:27.26 | gnarface | so i created cn=config in there too, after it got filled by migrationtools with a bunch of other child nodes |
| 22:28.27 | abrotman | you're going to have to paste all your configs in one pastebin :) |
| 22:29.00 | abrotman | and see if you can round up simonlnu too :) |
| 22:29.03 | abrotman | brb |
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| 22:39.09 | jY | using dpkg-buildpackage it is building collectd_4.10.1-1~ppa1 where in the debian dir can I edit to change the -1 to a -2 |
| 22:39.26 | dondelelcaro | jY: debian/changelog; man dch |
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| 22:40.38 | jY | ahh ok thanks |
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| 22:41.14 | mordocai_work | Hello, I am using debian testing/ustable x86_64 with the latest updates. The only thing I knowlingly have from unstable is iceweasel. My xserver currently appears to be broken. I am having extreme lag on all graphics effects, even typing here in exchat. (The characters show up approximately 10-30 seconds from the time they are entered). This is obviously rather annoying :). Strangely, this lag doesn't effect flash videos/games(after they have loade |
| 22:41.14 | mordocai_work | d) nor does it effect teamviewer(which runs under wine). I'm using the proprietary nvidia drivers and GNOME. I disabled compiz, thinking that may be it, but that did not help. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? I thought of changing out my video drivers for nouveau or something, but i want to try that as a last resort. I want the 3D effects, and nouveau doesn't yet officially support it.I aplogize for any mistakes, hard to proofread with thi |
| 22:41.18 | mordocai_work | s lag. |
| 22:41.30 | ir8 | Hi all. |
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| 22:41.53 | ir8 | Question, how can i increase my inode limit without rebuilding my whole filesystem? |
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| 22:45.51 | abrotman | ir8: you cannot |
| 22:46.06 | abrotman | not any method i'm aware of anyway |
| 22:46.13 | ir8 | you must be able to. |
| 22:46.19 | ir8 | I do on my netapps all the time |
| 22:47.44 | abrotman | okay |
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| 22:49.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | to echo what abrotman said, no you can't |
| 22:49.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | on your debian box, anyway |
| 22:49.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | netapps have a custom (clustered) filesystem |
| 22:50.03 | nathwill | wafl! |
| 22:50.07 | f00li5h | on the plus side, while you're rebuilding the FS on your debian box, you can install that kind of fs |
| 22:50.28 | nathwill | fsck equiv == wafliron |
| 22:50.32 | nathwill | lol |
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| 22:54.20 | jelly-home | ir8: depends on the filesystem in question. ext[234]fs can't do it without growing the whole filesystem size. Dunno about xfs. |
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| 22:54.38 | abrotman | what about JFS?! |
| 22:54.43 | abrotman | hfs+? |
| 22:54.45 | mordocai_work | Alright, I gave in and enabled nouveau. It fixed it, so it is a proprietary nvidia issue. Anyone know how to walk me through some steps to try to debug those drivers, or should I just wait until I see an update and try again? |
| 22:54.45 | jelly-home | ir8: VXFS does it transparently (no visible limit) |
| 22:54.46 | ir8 | hmmm |
| 22:54.53 | jelly-home | abrotman: who uses that crap! |
| 22:55.00 | ir8 | jelly-home: gocha. |
| 22:55.00 | abrotman | mordocai_work: ask nvidia for the source code |
| 22:55.05 | abrotman | jelly-home: IBM? |
| 22:55.15 | jelly-home | abrotman: I sure don't |
| 22:55.24 | ir8 | however i have a 20GB partiiton with roughly 6M inodes |
| 22:55.42 | jelly-home | ir8: fs type? |
| 22:55.55 | ir8 | ext4 |
| 22:56.04 | abrotman | ir8: can you make the FS bigger? |
| 22:56.08 | mordocai_work | abrotman: Yeah, I wish they'd open source it :). If nouveau ever officially supports 3d (as in I don't have to compile my own kernel to get it) i'll switch for sure :). I like it much better for 2d effects. |
| 22:56.12 | ir8 | well that is on one machine |
| 22:56.15 | abrotman | mordocai_work: they do |
| 22:56.20 | ir8 | I need to increase on another machine |
| 22:56.21 | jelly-home | ir8: if you grow the device and resize the fs, you'll gain inodes in the process |
| 22:56.27 | abrotman | mordocai_work: but you have to have a supported device |
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| 22:56.40 | mordocai_work | abrotman: Ah, okay. My card probably just isn't supported yet then. |
| 22:56.43 | jelly-home | ir8: other than that, you're SOL |
| 22:56.55 | abrotman | which is mildly better than being SQL |
| 22:57.08 | ir8 | ol |
| 22:58.14 | jelly-home | I may be wrong about ext4, maybe it has other provisions. |
| 22:58.15 | abrotman | ir8: got all that? |
| 22:58.26 | jelly-home | but ext[23] don't |
| 22:59.25 | abrotman | does ext2 even support resize .. i don't remember |
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| 22:59.45 | jelly-home | not online |
| 23:00.04 | abrotman | i figured that much |
| 23:00.17 | jelly-home | offline I think it does |
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| 23:01.08 | jelly-home | The resize2fs program will resize ext2, ext3, or ext4 file systems. [...] (As of this writing, the Linux 2.6 kernel supports on-line resize for filesystems mounted using ext3 and ext4.) |
| 23:01.28 | jelly-home | thus spoke TFM |
| 23:01.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | and lo, it was good |
| 23:01.59 | jesselang | Hi. I'm running wheezy, and having problems with some recent upgrades. One of the cores on my CPU almost always running at full scale. powertop shows acpi with a lot of events. Anyone have an idea? It sucks my battery dry very quickly. |
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| 23:02.47 | abrotman | maybe it's that fancy new 3.x kernel |
| 23:04.39 | mdik | abrotman: there's nothing really new to it |
| 23:05.20 | ir8 | ext4 can do it |
| 23:06.55 | abrotman | mdik: it was a joke |
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| 23:07.39 | abrotman | that said, it could be a patch in that version .. boot an old kernel, see if it still happens |
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| 23:15.46 | jesselang | abrotman, maybe the last patch of the 3.x kernel? Sure, I'll try that. |
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| 23:18.00 | jesselang | Hmm, can't find an older release of the 3.0 kernel. |
| 23:18.15 | jesselang | I'm running 3.0.0-3, apparently. |
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| 23:21.21 | abrotman | !sdn |
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| 23:21.21 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
| 23:21.52 | jesselang | Found it in my cache. :) |
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| 23:46.58 | stacks` | does anyone know how to create a directory that everyone can write in, but only the owner of the dir can remove the files inside the directory? |
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| 23:49.02 | abrotman | stacks`: like /tmp/ ? |
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| 23:51.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | stacks`: anyone can create files but not delete them? |
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| 23:53.03 | jelly-home | stacks`: mkdir foo && chmod 1777 foo |
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| 23:55.22 | jesselang | abrotman, reverting the kernel seems to have worked. Is there somewhere I should go to file a report? |
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