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| 00:07.14 | hskf | on my thinkpad x120e, I got the wireless driver installed and working, it connects to my network, but get dns lookup failed when trying to browse |
| 00:07.21 | hskf | where to start? |
| 00:07.39 | streuner_ | well, just edit /etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:08.09 | streuner_ | or configure DNS in your configuration |
| 00:08.20 | hskf | ok |
| 00:08.29 | hskf | have resolv.conf open in nano |
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| 00:08.59 | hskf | I have domain, search, and 2 nameservers |
| 00:09.18 | streuner_ | what do you use, network-manager, interfaces or what? |
| 00:09.26 | LinuxGuy2009 | I just got a new NAS network drive and was wondering if there are any GUI tools to simplify the automounting of network shares on the drive at bootup? |
| 00:09.44 | hskf | use to do what? |
| 00:09.47 | hskf | connect? |
| 00:10.01 | streuner_ | no, HOW do you configure your wifi? |
| 00:10.41 | hskf | oh let it configure automatically when it connects |
| 00:10.58 | hskf | but the domain and such looks like values it grabbed during the install |
| 00:11.16 | hskf | when I was connected straight to the modem by ethernet |
| 00:11.53 | hskf | tried messing with stuff in gui network settings to no avail |
| 00:12.21 | hskf | when I reconnect everything is reconfigured to the values I have now |
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| 00:15.00 | hskf | where can I find what should be in my resolv.conf, or what can I use to configure it? |
| 00:15.32 | streuner_ | hskf: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 00:15.57 | wcjj1 | resolve.conf can be edited with any text editor like emacs or vi, joe, nano |
| 00:16.21 | wcjj1 | syntax: ip fullyQualifiedDomainName shortName |
| 00:16.43 | wcjj1 | example: 192.168.1.2 computer.example.com computer |
| 00:16.47 | wcjj1 | shit |
| 00:16.50 | wcjj1 | sorry |
| 00:16.54 | wcjj1 | that's hosts |
| 00:16.57 | wcjj1 | resolve is |
| 00:17.23 | wcjj1 | domain example.com |
| 00:17.30 | wcjj1 | search example.com |
| 00:17.36 | wcjj1 | nameserver 4.4.4.4 |
| 00:17.42 | wcjj1 | nameserver 8.8.8.8 |
| 00:17.46 | wcjj1 | that's it |
| 00:17.55 | hskf | that's what I have in there currently |
| 00:17.59 | hskf | that format |
| 00:18.17 | wcjj1 | your not resolving? |
| 00:18.25 | hskf | and - without thinking - I just ran an aptitude update and it worked |
| 00:18.28 | hskf | but no browsing |
| 00:18.37 | hskf | right |
| 00:18.42 | hskf | I get... |
| 00:19.03 | hskf | Error 105 (net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED) |
| 00:19.05 | hskf | in chrome |
| 00:19.27 | streuner_ | the browser isnt important |
| 00:19.35 | hskf | ok |
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| 00:19.40 | streuner_ | hskf: ping -c1 google.de |
| 00:19.43 | wcjj1 | can you run "nslookup www.google.com" from the cli |
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| 00:19.55 | streuner_ | please tell us, if you get an response |
| 00:20.04 | babilen | wcjj1: the first three lines are definitely wrong |
| 00:20.07 | czaja | what with 4.4.4.4, shouldnt be 8.8.4.4? |
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| 00:20.28 | wcjj1 | I was throughing out example ips |
| 00:20.31 | babilen | czaja: or 4.2.2.4 -- but yeah, 4.4.4.4 is wrong |
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| 00:20.45 | wcjj1 | my dns ips are 24.92.226.9 and 24.92.226.100 |
| 00:21.26 | streuner_ | if he is able to use aptitude it should be something strange then |
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| 00:21.33 | wcjj1 | with dns |
| 00:21.38 | hskf | nslookup times out for me |
| 00:21.42 | streuner_ | with the website |
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| 00:21.59 | hskf | the website was google |
| 00:22.06 | wcjj1 | what ips are in your resolve.conf for the nameservers |
| 00:22.06 | streuner_ | hm |
| 00:22.37 | hskf | 68.87.73.246 and 68.87.71.230 |
| 00:22.49 | Orwell | Why are you posting my ip |
| 00:23.06 | streuner_ | lol |
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| 00:23.15 | hskf | haha |
| 00:23.25 | Orwell | =P |
| 00:23.31 | hskf | gotcha cornered |
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| 00:23.42 | wcjj1 | change those numbers to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 |
| 00:23.51 | hskf | ok |
| 00:24.34 | hskf | nslookup works |
| 00:24.47 | hskf | browser works |
| 00:24.58 | wcjj1 | good deal, bad dns servers |
| 00:25.05 | streuner_ | well, that happens sometimes |
| 00:25.18 | hskf | ok, now how do I prevent my resolv.conf from changing everytime I connect to my router? |
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| 00:26.01 | hskf | I just reconnected and nameservers are back to their original values |
| 00:26.07 | wcjj1 | anyone know if changing from dhcp to static will work? |
| 00:26.57 | wcjj1 | you can try it hskf |
| 00:27.14 | hskf | i'll give it a shot |
| 00:28.39 | hskf | wait is that the same as changing to static ip on the router? |
| 00:28.42 | hskf | or something else |
| 00:28.59 | streuner_ | a router thingie |
| 00:29.03 | hskf | ok |
| 00:29.46 | hskf | not something I know how to do |
| 00:29.51 | hskf | might not want to try it now |
| 00:29.53 | wcjj1 | you'll also have to assign your nic a static ip |
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| 00:31.13 | max_sharpe | Cant you assign your dns servers in resolv.conf? |
| 00:31.43 | dvs | max_sharpe: dhcp probably keeps on resetting it. |
| 00:31.45 | wcjj1 | they are being reset when he plugs into his router to dns servers that are not resolving |
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| 00:33.01 | wcjj1 | I would personally edit /etc/network/interfaces and use ifup and ifdown instead of the gnome gui networking tools |
| 00:33.04 | hskf | think dvs is right |
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| 00:34.47 | trnzmeta | make the file immutable |
| 00:34.52 | trnzmeta | chattr |
| 00:35.46 | wcjj1 | can you make resolve.conf read only without any side effects? |
| 00:35.51 | babilen | !override dns |
| 00:35.51 | dpkg | To instruct dhclient to use your specified nameserver rather than the one given to you by your DHCP server, echo "supersede domain-name-servers a.b.c.d, e.f.g.h;" >> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf (/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf on squeeze), or see man 5 dhclient.conf for more information. Instead of supersede, you can also use "prepend" or "append" to add nameservers. Or remove domain-name-servers (etc.) from dhclient.conf if you prefer. |
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| 00:36.21 | babilen | Or configure it in whatever client you are using -- *all* of them allow configuration (wpa-supplicant, network-manager, wicd) |
| 00:36.31 | wcjj1 | dpkg: nice, didn't know that |
| 00:36.31 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, wcjj1 |
| 00:37.18 | babilen | still recommends to configure wicd/nm/wpa-supplicant (i.e. resolvconf's dns-nameserver in /e/n/i) |
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| 00:39.27 | streuner_ | wcjj1: dpkg is a bot |
| 00:40.02 | streuner_ | babilen: we already told him |
| 00:40.37 | k-man | for some reason, I get a cron message every day about amavis being stopped/restarted |
| 00:40.39 | wcjj1 | well, don't I feel foolish |
| 00:40.48 | k-man | why do I need to see those messages? |
| 00:42.06 | babilen | streuner_: ok |
| 00:42.22 | streuner_ | k-man: grep -r amavis /etc/* ? |
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| 00:43.16 | streuner_ | k-man: it should be somewhere in /etc/*cron*... |
| 00:43.25 | hskf | thanks dpkg |
| 00:43.29 | streuner_ | argh |
| 00:43.35 | hskf | (know it's a bot_ |
| 00:43.37 | hskf | haha |
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| 00:44.33 | hskf | uncommented prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:44.46 | hskf | in dhclient.conf |
| 00:45.05 | k-man | streuner_, yeah, its there under them spamassassin_update job |
| 00:45.07 | hskf | now that is before my bad nameservers in resolv.conf |
| 00:45.21 | hskf | but everthing works after reconnecting/rebooting |
| 00:45.30 | hskf | you guys are awesome |
| 00:46.46 | dvs | hskf: you're running a name server locally? |
| 00:46.57 | hskf | apparently |
| 00:47.05 | hskf | if that's what it takes to work |
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| 00:47.37 | hskf | would that have been implemented during install> |
| 00:48.08 | dvs | hskf: depends if you chose to configure the network manually. |
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| 00:48.38 | hskf | nope, did autp |
| 00:49.01 | hskf | but there's a localhost in my hosts under network settings |
| 00:49.17 | hskf | whatever works |
| 00:49.30 | hskf | any consequences to connecting this way? |
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| 00:50.24 | dvs | hskf: I'm still a bit baffled on how it works if you don't have a name server configured locally. |
| 00:50.26 | streuner_ | babilen: yeah, sure, but some people are unwilling to read a simple URL.... |
| 00:51.11 | streuner_ | it was a bad DNS server |
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| 00:52.55 | hskf | would there be consequence to connecting this way> |
| 00:53.55 | sedulous | is it possible to configure dm-crypt to use SMP at run-time? |
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| 00:54.14 | sedulous | i've got this system with some custom 2.6.38.2 kernel and its dm-crypt only uses 1 core |
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| 01:03.03 | chipotle | where are the volumes that are mounted in debian lenny 5? |
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| 01:06.02 | harovali | hi, what package do I have to install to get java support in iceweasel ? |
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| 01:06.54 | streuner_ | !java |
| 01:06.54 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged for Debian, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 01:08.40 | streuner_ | harovali: so, /msg dpkg install java |
| 01:09.27 | harovali | thanks, icedtea6-plugin will do. |
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| 01:09.59 | xortch | has anyone ever ran a jbod and then mirrored it? |
| 01:10.00 | chipotle | are there any issues i should know about before i upgrade debian5 to debian6, where the main partition is encrypted? |
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| 01:12.01 | Wyzard | chipotle: You shouldn't need to do anything special |
| 01:12.27 | dondelelcaro | xortch: you can do that, but it won't stay mirrored without work |
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| 01:26.55 | civillian | in wheezy I can't seem to change the login screen appearance using System->Administration->Login Screen, only options are log in as.. etc |
| 01:27.06 | civillian | I'm sure it used to be there in squeeze |
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| 01:37.20 | zykotick9 | civillian, squeeze only has the "Login as" and "timeout", perhaps lenny had more options? |
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| 01:39.56 | Gaia | has anyoneinstalled with unetbootin? How small can you shrink Windows? |
| 01:40.07 | garotosopa | In a fresh install don't you think all lib's should be marked as installed automatically? I can see most of them are marked as manually installed. Just wondering. |
| 01:40.10 | civillian | zykotick9: perhaps... I just want to change the default screen and I've got a tgz file here with what I like |
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| 01:40.40 | zykotick9 | civillian, gdm3 is not exactly theme-friendly, gdm2 themes do NOT work. |
| 01:41.30 | civillian | zykotick9: I seem to be running gdm3 and gtk2, does this sound right? |
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| 01:42.12 | zykotick9 | civillian, it's the gdm3 that is the issue |
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| 01:42.45 | Gaia | I´m trying to install Debian onto a machine with a bios password. Thus unetbootin |
| 01:42.56 | civillian | zykotick9: hmm.. ok. I have a .desktop file and a .xml file with the .jpg that I like, perhaps I can manually install this |
| 01:43.33 | zykotick9 | civillian, it is possible to change the background image somehow, but I doubt you'll be able to do much more then that. Best of luck. |
| 01:43.58 | civillian | zykotick9: OK thanks for that! |
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| 01:59.38 | agike | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.39 | agike | att |
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| 02:00.07 | k-man | how can I configure a 16:9 X mode that I can switch to using xrandr? |
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| 02:01.46 | mns | agike: first off you shouldn't edit text files with abiword. use a normal text editor (vi, vim, nano, emacs, etc.) |
| 02:01.59 | agike | mns: no problem |
| 02:02.06 | DexterF | k-man: xrandr --newmode and --addmode. timings for newmode: use cvt. |
| 02:02.41 | agike | mns: WattOs live Cd supports vi and abi* |
| 02:02.51 | DexterF | k-man: but how come you can't anyway? if the display is 16:9 X should run in its native mode |
| 02:02.55 | civillian | agike: high-priority current projects? |
| 02:03.09 | agike | civilian: yeah, like work |
| 02:03.19 | k-man | DexterF, I'm setting it on a virtualbox guest |
| 02:03.28 | zykotick9 | agike, also using sudo with GUI apps should be avoided, gksu or gksudo intead. |
| 02:03.31 | civillian | agike: do you have a backup of them? |
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| 02:03.51 | agike | civilian: on USB |
| 02:03.52 | DexterF | k-man: funny coincidence, I've been there just today. forget xrandr, I tried that, did not work. |
| 02:03.54 | dbelange | DON'T READ THIS CAUSE IT ACTUALLY WORKS. YOU WILL gET KISSED ON THE NEAREST POSSIBLE FRIDAY BY THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE. TOMORROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY OF YOUR LIFE HOWEVER IF YOU DO NOT POST THIS COMMENT TO AT LEAST 3 CHANNELS YOU WILL DIE WITHIN 2 DAYS. NO UV STARTED READING THIS SO DUNT STOP.THIS IS SCARY.PUT THIS ON AT LEAST 5 CHANNELS IN 143 MINUTES. WHEN YOUR DONE PRESS F6 AND YOUR LOVERS NAME WILL |
| 02:03.56 | dbelange | APPEAR ON THE SCREEN IN BIG LETTERS.THIS IS SO SCARY CAUSE IT ACTUALLYWOR |
| 02:04.11 | civillian | slash ban |
| 02:04.26 | k-man | DexterF. i've been successfully using xrander to set the resolution to preset ones, but can't seem to successfully add a new resolution |
| 02:04.31 | k-man | DexterF, how dod you do it? |
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| 02:04.53 | k-man | s/dod/did |
| 02:04.54 | nevyn | k-man: there's an addmode option in xrandr |
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| 02:05.09 | civillian | agike: If it's important then forget the OS install and get your work done via the backup |
| 02:05.10 | dbelange | DON'T READ THIS CAUSE IT ACTUALLY WORKS. YOU WILL gET KISSED ON THE NEAREST POSSIBLE FRIDAY BY THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE. TOMORROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY OF YOUR LIFE HOWEVER IF YOU DO NOT POST THIS COMMENT TO AT LEAST 3 CHANNELS YOU WILL DIE WITHIN 2 DAYS. NO UV STARTED READING THIS SO DUNT STOP.THIS IS SCARY.PUT THIS ON AT LEAST 5 CHANNELS IN 143 MINUTES. WHEN YOUR DONE PRESS F6 AND YOUR LOVERS NAME WILL |
| 02:05.11 | dbelange | APPEAR ON THE SCREEN IN BIG LETTERS.THIS IS SO SCARY CAUSE IT ACTUALLYWOR |
| 02:05.40 | k-man | err.. is there no op here? |
| 02:05.46 | agike | zykotick(: why gksu or gksudo with GUI ? |
| 02:06.11 | DexterF | k-man: well, I skipped the xrandr approach and installed vbox guest additions in the guest and resized the window. it stays like that then even when you suspend and start it headless with VBoxHeadless then |
| 02:06.13 | zykotick9 | agike, using sudo can cause ownership issues in your home directory |
| 02:06.35 | k-man | DexterF, are you able to specify an exact resolution that way? |
| 02:07.11 | DexterF | k-man: haven't figured that part for now, then again I'm a total vbox n00b fresh off the vmware bus. but the people at #vbox are very helpful. |
| 02:07.16 | Bop | !ops |
| 02:07.16 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. |
| 02:07.40 | agike | zykotick9: Hmm.. such as "cannot find device for / (is /dev mounted?)" |
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| 02:07.48 | Bop | dpkg: ops flood_problem |
| 02:07.48 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: bop complains about: flood_problem |
| 02:07.58 | zykotick9 | agike, no that's a different issue (i think) |
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| 02:08.02 | agike | zykotick9: I will certainly give it a go. |
| 02:08.45 | zykotick9 | agike, my comment was general, not specific to the issue you have right now |
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| 02:09.58 | k-man | DexterF, thanks |
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| 02:13.33 | nvictor | hello all |
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| 02:13.53 | nvictor | is there a way to boot the netinst iso from a usb drive? |
| 02:13.56 | agike | zykotick9: You are right, it makes no difference |
| 02:14.02 | agike | guest@guest:/media/disk-2$ gksudo update-grub2 |
| 02:14.03 | agike | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). |
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| 02:14.53 | zykotick9 | agike, update-grub2 isn't a GUI app, use sudo for that |
| 02:15.30 | zykotick9 | agike, GUI = Graphical User Interface, ie. xorg related programs |
| 02:16.02 | agike | zykotick9: Heh .. been there. It might involve chroot from LivreCD |
| 02:16.07 | zykotick9 | agike, did you chroot before running update-grub2? it doesn't seem like you have. |
| 02:16.36 | agike | zykotick9: correct. |
| 02:16.57 | zykotick9 | agike, although these are Ubuntu directions they should apply, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 |
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| 02:17.54 | nvictor | unetbootin |
| 02:17.55 | nvictor | :D |
| 02:17.56 | nvictor | \o/ |
| 02:18.05 | nvictor | thanks god some people think about us |
| 02:18.17 | agike | zykotick9: thanks, |
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| 02:28.25 | tynx | Woot, firefox 5 in testing! My patience has been rewarded |
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| 02:29.53 | nvictor | latin american keymap? |
| 02:30.01 | nvictor | == internation keyboard right? |
| 02:30.06 | nvictor | with accents and all... |
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| 02:39.52 | civillian | Gah, wine is gone in wheezy? |
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| 02:42.07 | nvictor | i should have known... |
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| 02:54.56 | syntaxx | hi is there a way we could keep the lvm /home directory during preseed? |
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| 02:59.03 | amero | i only have 2 users logged in but 'w' tells me there are 3. any idea why? |
| 02:59.08 | amero | http://pastebin.com/YMmgQefk |
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| 03:06.02 | boudiccas | amero; two users plus you = 3 |
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| 03:07.35 | amero | the 2 users are actually both me |
| 03:08.42 | boudiccas | then 2 you and 1 root |
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| 03:09.56 | amero | . |
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| 03:24.25 | agike | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:31.25 | tharkun_ | Gentlemen if i pressed ^z i know i stopped a job, how can i resume it? |
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| 03:36.19 | civillian | tharkun_: %1 |
| 03:37.26 | wols | tharkun_: fg |
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| 03:38.14 | tharkun_ | wols: fg failed but civillian's suggestion worked like a charm |
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| 03:38.57 | Kamping_Kaiser | fg failed? o.0 |
| 03:39.39 | tharkun_ | Kamping_Kaiser: yes, that is what disturbed me the most |
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| 03:40.44 | tharkun | goes back to lurking |
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| 04:01.49 | kieppie | hi all. I run mostly an Ubuntu/Debian network, & a pfSense firewall. I'm looking for a way of specifying my apt-cache proxy in the DHCP options. any ideas, please? |
| 04:02.58 | paijem-cantik | apt-cacher-ng |
| 04:04.30 | kieppie | paijem-cantik: I'm making use of apt-cacher-ng. I'm looking for a way to globally specify the apt proxy, rather than having to define it @ every client |
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| 04:07.15 | wols | read docs for your dhcp server, see if there are custom fields available for it |
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| 04:08.03 | kieppie | wols: looking at http://www.iana.org/assignments/bootp-dhcp-parameters/bootp-dhcp-parameters.xml , not entirely sure I'm seeing what I'm looking for |
| 04:09.21 | wols | you want custom fields. not bootp options |
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| 04:22.29 | zykotick9 | wols, could a DHCP server really supply info for apt.conf? |
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| 04:26.44 | paijem-cantik | i don't think so |
| 04:26.48 | paijem-cantik | :d |
| 04:27.10 | NiLon | is there any simple way to hide process list from users so that they can only view their own? |
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| 04:28.55 | kuznetzvo | nilon: no practical means exist afaik |
| 04:29.28 | NiLon | too bad :/ |
| 04:29.51 | kuznetzvo | i mean you can deny them access to bin/ps and restrict what they can do but only to a certain extent |
| 04:30.45 | meegooo | hey what does patching really do and why are they so slow to happen? |
| 04:31.34 | peterrooney | NiLon: why would you want to? |
| 04:32.53 | NiLon | peterrooney I have semi-shared box and I would like to prevent others viewing parameters of commands etc |
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| 04:33.47 | NiLon | not going to apply some hackish patches or so to go there, but just thought if it would be simple option or something :) |
| 04:34.07 | peterrooney | meegooo: a patch is a canonical change to a program/library/package ; they are sometimes slow because programmers sometimes want to make sure corrections don't have unintended side effects |
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| 04:36.34 | xolo | hello everybody !! |
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| 04:37.00 | xolo | can somebody plz help me configure a tv card ??? |
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| 04:38.20 | civillian | xolo: you could start with the issue you're having, maybe someone here can help if they know about it |
| 04:38.51 | xolo | thanks civillian =) |
| 04:39.30 | xolo | the issue is that i bought a tv card that claimed to work under linux kernel 2.6.18 or higher... |
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| 04:39.54 | xolo | but after i installed it i couldn't make it work properly |
| 04:40.25 | xolo | so i called tech service and they told me "debian is not supported at the momment" |
| 04:41.12 | xolo | i made an lspci and found that the tv card uses saa7134 so i googled for that |
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| 04:42.11 | xolo | i found that i need to modify /etc/modprobe/alsa-base.conf and /etc/modprobe/saa7134.conf |
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| 04:42.41 | xolo | i need to put a proper card and tuner value in those files |
| 04:42.59 | xolo | the thing is i don't know how to find those proper values |
| 04:44.05 | kuznetzvo | lspci or maybe look at the chips on the card? |
| 04:44.13 | civillian | xolo: from my experience on saa modules, there is a modprobe card=x form that you need to use, just start at 0 and work your way up to 8 or whatever and see which one works |
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| 04:46.38 | xolo | i've tested up to 5 but now i get a "missing /dev/video0" message now |
| 04:47.55 | civillian | xolo: don't forget to rmmod saaxxxx before each test, from memory sometimes it will load the module anyway and break subsequent tests |
| 04:48.16 | civillian | xolo: use dmesg after each run to see if the card actually works, you'll see a message indicating success |
| 04:48.42 | civillian | xolo: sorry I'm a bit vague on this, it's been a while since I set one up |
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| 04:50.52 | xolo | no problem =) somebody recomended to change the values in the files i mentioned earlyer and reboot to avoid false failures due to saa modules not unloading after rmmod or modprobe -r |
| 04:52.21 | civillian | xolo: I had a Hauppage 2200 dual DVB-T card and I didn't need tuner=x so perhaps just start modprobing with just card= |
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| 04:55.08 | xolo | i'm triying modprobe saa7134 card=X tuner=0 |
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| 04:55.34 | kingsley | Where are step by step instructions for how to downgrade a package? |
| 04:55.37 | PerfieM | I LOVE THIS CHANNNEL!!! |
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| 04:57.02 | peterrooney | PerfieM: not as much as it loves me. |
| 04:57.26 | PerfieM | peterrooney: wow, it must love you very very very very veryx10000 much |
| 04:58.23 | peterrooney | PerfieM: you've been here three minutes. I know who it's going home with. |
| 04:58.56 | nutron | is there an mpd client that will take commands via a socket or its own command line... ie "client --next" or echo "next" > ~/.blah/socket ...? |
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| 04:59.17 | PerfieM | peterrooney++ ahah |
| 05:00.16 | max_sharpe | haha peterrooney |
| 05:00.29 | nutron | nm |
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| 05:02.52 | nvictor | netinst is a lie |
| 05:04.11 | PerfieM | the soup is a lie |
| 05:05.56 | nvictor | now i'm stuck with a minimal installation thatcan't do much |
| 05:06.09 | nvictor | first i got the non-free firmware error |
| 05:06.12 | max_sharpe | the cake is a lie. |
| 05:06.30 | nvictor | then i went back to get the "firmware" versionof netinst |
| 05:06.40 | nvictor | then the same error prompted |
| 05:06.50 | nvictor | then my network device not detected |
| 05:07.07 | nutron | What is the matrix? |
| 05:07.16 | nvictor | then just the bare minimum install :( |
| 05:07.21 | nvictor | +ed |
| 05:07.27 | nvictor | how do i fix all this? |
| 05:09.52 | dondelelcaro | nvictor: you can either install using one of the bigger images, or you can tell us precisely what hardware you have and are trying to install using |
| 05:10.08 | dondelelcaro | nvictor: you'll get the missing firmware error still, but you just tell the installer to load the firmware |
| 05:10.46 | nvictor | dondelelcaro: that's the issue :( |
| 05:11.03 | dondelelcaro | nvictor: so load the firmware? |
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| 05:11.09 | nvictor | dondelelcaro: my iso boot was from my usb device |
| 05:11.32 | nvictor | dondelelcaro: i have no idea what it is, forgot to write that down |
| 05:11.43 | nvictor | dondelelcaro: i thought it will prolly work later on |
| 05:11.52 | dondelelcaro | nvictor: it'll work if you load the firmware |
| 05:12.15 | nvictor | dondelelcaro: that's good news |
| 05:12.18 | dondelelcaro | nvictor: and if you haven't, you can install it by downloading the appropriate firmware package, and dpkg -i'ing it, then getting network working, and installing normally |
| 05:12.38 | dondelelcaro | nvictor: well, it *should* work; since you haven't told us what the hardware is yet, I can't say for certain |
| 05:12.41 | nvictor | dondelelcaro: how do i find out what i'm missing |
| 05:12.44 | dondelelcaro | nvictor: lspci |
| 05:12.55 | nvictor | ok let me type that |
| 05:13.07 | dondelelcaro | nvictor: dmesg will also tell you what the missing firmware file is called |
| 05:13.10 | civillian | dondelelcaro: that won't tell him _everything_ he's missing... |
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| 05:14.47 | dondelelcaro | civillian: no, but it'll tell you the first file, which will tell you the name of the package you need, which will get you everything. |
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| 05:17.25 | skiy1337 | How can I add my application to your distro? |
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| 05:19.48 | nvictor | wow dondelelcaro, i just went throught the whole dmesg |
| 05:20.00 | nvictor | not a single error line or anything unusual |
| 05:20.08 | nvictor | dondelelcaro: ifconfig returns nothing |
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| 05:20.32 | nvictor | actually it returns command not found :) |
| 05:23.31 | beardy | nvictor: /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 05:24.12 | nvictor | beardy: yep i wasn't root |
| 05:24.18 | nvictor | so i switched to root user |
| 05:24.36 | nvictor | so only the loopback thing is configured |
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| 05:25.04 | beardy | You can run it a a normal user, just that users don't have /sbin in their path. |
| 05:25.55 | nvictor | dondelelcaro: you there? |
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| 05:31.01 | bookmark | sup |
| 05:31.09 | bookmark | anyone know why there is no virtual dub package? |
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| 05:31.48 | bookmark | is mencoder like better or something even though it doesn't have a front end so it not as good :) |
| 05:32.30 | bookmark | its not even in non-free |
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| 05:33.59 | brad_ | hey, i just checked out crunchbang with openbox, very cool! basically it's just sexed up debian, no? |
| 05:34.24 | brad_ | when i look at debian.org i want to know what kind of window manager would it install. |
| 05:34.33 | brad_ | gnome? openbox? |
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| 05:34.46 | nevyn | brad_: whatever you want. |
| 05:34.57 | brad_ | right, i guessed that |
| 05:35.11 | rozie | brad_: gnome is installed by default if you choose role desktop |
| 05:35.13 | brad_ | i just get a general iso and at some point in the install it asks me what i want? |
| 05:35.25 | brad_ | role desktop? |
| 05:35.31 | rozie | brad_: just don't choose role, you can install WM later |
| 05:35.46 | brad_ | later? |
| 05:35.47 | rozie | brad_: installer asks about typical role for computer |
| 05:36.01 | brad_ | ok, so if i install later, it goes into a command promt? |
| 05:36.09 | bookmark | is compiz a wm? |
| 05:36.13 | rozie | later. after completing installation. with apt-get |
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| 05:37.40 | brad_ | sorry, back |
| 05:37.59 | brad_ | ok, so i don't say desktop role, i don't say anything. then does it ask me what wm i want? |
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| 05:38.42 | brad_ | bookmark, compiz is not a wm. gnome, kde, openbox, those are wm's. compiz is a tool they use to handle a bunch of graphical things, like winodw decorations |
| 05:39.00 | brad_ | and flashy shit. actually only some wm's use compiz. |
| 05:39.00 | bookmark | brad_: can i use compiz with twm? |
| 05:39.08 | bookmark | oh |
| 05:39.12 | brad_ | i don't know twm ;-) |
| 05:39.23 | dondelelcaro | nvictor: what does lspci output? |
| 05:39.39 | dondelelcaro | nvictor: and what does ifconfig -a; output? |
| 05:39.48 | bookmark | brad_: can i use compiz with lxde? |
| 05:39.54 | brad_ | rozie, so i boot into a command prompt and then i got apt-get and i install something? |
| 05:40.32 | brad_ | bookmark, nearly sure lxde doesn't use compiz, it uses just X or something more basic. why do you want compiz so bad? |
| 05:40.46 | brad_ | compiz is big and heavy and not super stable |
| 05:40.56 | brad_ | but almost everyone here is way more of an expert than me |
| 05:41.56 | bookmark | brad_: i didn't say i want it so bad |
| 05:42.07 | brad_ | whats up then? |
| 05:42.10 | nvictor | dondelelcaro: ah sorry, a bunch of things mentioning Intel Corporation 82801 |
| 05:42.12 | bookmark | ive just never used it and i got nvidia drivers working finally so im gonna try it |
| 05:42.24 | brad_ | on lxde? |
| 05:42.33 | bookmark | and im kinda migrating to linux today |
| 05:42.43 | brad_ | from windows? |
| 05:42.44 | bookmark | since i got maya installed |
| 05:42.47 | brad_ | this is your first time? |
| 05:42.51 | nevyn | brad_: it doesn't ask you as much as you Tell it what you want |
| 05:42.52 | nvictor | dondelelcaro: that's lspci, and ifconfig -a has eht0 l0 and wlan0 |
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| 05:43.03 | bookmark | no no i know linux pretty good but i stayed mainly in windows |
| 05:43.15 | bookmark | now im changing cuz i hate restore cds |
| 05:43.28 | nvictor | dondelelcaro: i just got this http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/firmware-iwlwifi/download |
| 05:43.34 | brad_ | nevyn, so i install, a flashing screen comes up and i say sudo apt-get openbox? |
| 05:43.38 | bookmark | installer cds are much more configurable |
| 05:43.41 | nvictor | was reading on a forum that it's what i need |
| 05:43.51 | nvictor | i can't find anywhere the exact firmware i need |
| 05:44.02 | nevyn | brad_: you install a login prompt apperas on your screen. |
| 05:44.43 | brad_ | nevyn, all text, right? and then i go find a desktop enviroment and install the packages with apt-get from a command line? |
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| 05:45.10 | brad_ | bookmark, yeah restore stuff is super lame, straight back to square one. |
| 05:45.30 | brad_ | bookmark, what are you using now, you said lxde? |
| 05:45.33 | nevyn | brad_: all text. |
| 05:45.35 | bookmark | twm |
| 05:46.00 | brad_ | nevyn, so like i said right, you say apt-get install openbox and then you have it? |
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| 05:46.10 | nevyn | yes. |
| 05:46.15 | brad_ | nevyn, or you have to configure it to boot into it? |
| 05:46.24 | brad_ | before you "have" it |
| 05:46.42 | nevyn | you apt-get install openbox and it installs openbox. |
| 05:47.03 | nevyn | but that doesn't give you a display manager (gui login box) |
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| 05:47.31 | brad_ | bookmark, see i don't even know what that is, so after all this i guess i can't help you ;-), but my advice is if it works, don't fix it with compiz, if that even makes sense in the first place and they can even work together, because compiz is big and heavy and in the end a pain in the ass, imho |
| 05:47.53 | nevyn | brad_: twm is a window manager used by mr tusks |
| 05:47.55 | nevyn | it's tiny |
| 05:47.58 | brad_ | nevyn, right so i need to do some stuff to get it to give me a login |
| 05:48.05 | nevyn | brad_: well maybe |
| 05:48.11 | brad_ | tinier than openbox? |
| 05:48.23 | bookmark | its about the tiniest thing in debian right now |
| 05:48.27 | nevyn | it's used by mr tusks |
| 05:48.29 | brad_ | nevyn, i switched from ubuntu last week to crunchbang |
| 05:48.36 | nevyn | is dwm in debian? |
| 05:48.38 | brad_ | mr tusks? |
| 05:48.40 | brad_ | wtf? |
| 05:48.51 | brad_ | :-) |
| 05:49.07 | bookmark | its fluxbox with only 2 colors |
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| 05:49.15 | bookmark | and no patters in the background |
| 05:49.18 | brad_ | i guess crunchbang is exactly debian, just sexed up? |
| 05:49.18 | bookmark | just stipple |
| 05:49.41 | bookmark | patters=patterns |
| 05:50.15 | brad_ | bookmark, after using ubuntu so long, i want lightweight so bad! |
| 05:50.21 | nevyn | http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1078 |
| 05:50.21 | brad_ | ubuntu just got so heavy! |
| 05:50.31 | nevyn | brad_: ^^^ mr tusks is introduced. |
| 05:50.33 | nevyn | anyway |
| 05:50.57 | bookmark | brad: just get the debian cd iso ( not dvd ) and unplug the lan cable after dhcp ( when it asks for timezone ) |
| 05:51.10 | nvictor | how do i mount a usb drive (fat32)? |
| 05:51.13 | bookmark | you can install in like 10 minutes |
| 05:51.38 | bookmark | /dev/sda5 9.2G 1.3G |
| 05:51.44 | bookmark | 1.3 gigs used |
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| 05:52.01 | bookmark | ;p |
| 05:52.11 | bookmark | thats after i updated to nvidia drivers |
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| 05:52.43 | nevyn | nvictor: mount -t vfat /dev/sdblah |
| 05:52.48 | nevyn | nvictor: mount -t vfat /dev/sdblah somemountpoint |
| 05:53.14 | nevyn | nvictor: or use devicemanger for clicky pointy drooly mounting of removable media (which is how I do it) |
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| 05:53.37 | nevyn | because I can no longer be botherd greping dmesg to find what device name my external disk has today. |
| 05:53.42 | nevyn | or setting udev rules or blah |
| 05:54.31 | brad_ | bookmark, why unplug lan? cause its a net install? |
| 05:54.33 | nvictor | nevyn: thanks i was trying FAT32 |
| 05:54.54 | brad_ | bookmark, that way i can get it to install nothing? |
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| 05:56.06 | bookmark | brad yeah |
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| 05:56.19 | bookmark | it will only install the stuff on the 650mb cd |
| 05:56.26 | bookmark | and not sit there downloading |
| 05:56.43 | brad_ | ok, there is cd-1, cd-2, ... |
| 05:56.47 | brad_ | there are 50 of them! |
| 05:56.51 | bookmark | hehe |
| 05:56.54 | bookmark | just get 1 |
| 05:56.54 | brad_ | this one looks interseting though ... debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso.torrent |
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| 05:56.57 | ombyla | hi! my busybox is in /system/xbin with rwxrwxrwx. i'm logged in as 'su'. but when i try to busybox --install /system/xbin i get busybox: permission denied. anybody aware of what's wrong? |
| 05:57.08 | bookmark | well yeah if you want lxde |
| 05:57.23 | bookmark | but if you want to dump into a command line then just get cd 1 |
| 05:57.33 | bookmark | then do apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 05:57.49 | brad_ | bookmark, yeah i want one of those openboxy, lxde etc, but not xfce |
| 05:58.00 | brad_ | so maybe just go into a command line and install what i want |
| 05:58.12 | brad_ | have you tried lxde? |
| 05:58.15 | nvictor | it didnt work :( |
| 05:58.42 | brad_ | nvictor, youre not talking about lxde, irght? :-) |
| 05:58.57 | nvictor | after installing the firmware-iwlwifixxx.deb package, i did modprobe -r iwlagn |
| 05:59.03 | nvictor | nothing happened |
| 05:59.11 | nvictor | network card still not detected |
| 05:59.48 | bookmark | brad_: lxde is pretty nice but then you get a graphical login |
| 05:59.59 | bookmark | maybe you can install it after the fact i dunno |
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| 06:00.09 | bookmark | like i did twm |
| 06:00.22 | bookmark | or there is nothing wrong with a graphical login |
| 06:00.38 | bookmark | its just not what i like |
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| 06:01.32 | brad_ | i hear you text login to graphical is faster |
| 06:01.43 | brad_ | is is twn really great? |
| 06:01.50 | brad_ | i've been using openbox about 2 days :0( |
| 06:01.54 | brad_ | :-) |
| 06:02.02 | bookmark | its really ugly man im not bragging on it or nothing |
| 06:02.08 | bookmark | the background is atrocious |
| 06:02.17 | brad_ | hang on, let me see a screenshot |
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| 06:02.20 | bookmark | i need to run xset or whatever to put a picture |
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| 06:02.50 | bookmark | i generally setup a script to flip through images in the background |
| 06:03.30 | bookmark | i can't remember how right now though lol |
| 06:03.37 | bookmark | smokin too much weed |
| 06:05.11 | bookmark | got that blue berry yum yum and i never woulda thought that it could taste this good. thank god for the man who put it in my hood |
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| 06:06.17 | brad_ | this is a cool page showing all the wm's next to eachother |
| 06:06.18 | brad_ | http://anarchic-order.blogspot.com/2011/02/linuxs-killer-feature-flexibility.html |
| 06:06.33 | brad_ | i think i'm an openbox guy for now, based on not much at all! |
| 06:06.35 | brad_ | it's really fast! |
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| 06:08.50 | dondelelcaro | brad_: it actually doesn't show them all |
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| 06:10.09 | dondelelcaro | (we have more than 30 different window managers) |
| 06:10.40 | brad_ | that's what i was afraid of! |
| 06:10.47 | brad_ | ;-) |
| 06:11.11 | brad_ | it's too much choice for me, i like things simple :-) |
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| 18:23.10 | Gorilla_No_Baka | hello lads.. quick question.. does anyone know if axel can read urls from a file and download them the way wget -i does ? thanks |
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| 18:23.59 | jelly-home | Gorilla_No_Baka: stupid question, does the manual say it can? |
| 18:24.26 | Gorilla_No_Baka | jelly-home: well i could not find anything about it.. |
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| 18:27.09 | jelly-home | Gorilla_No_Baka: seems too simple a tool. If you need parallel downloads and file input, take a look at lftp |
| 18:27.54 | jelly-home | it has scripts, not necessarily input files with urls, but I'm sure you can manage |
| 18:28.45 | Gorilla_No_Baka | jelly-home: thanks.. what i was hoping for .. to combine the power of axel with the flexibility of wget.. or maybe there is sucha tool out there>?? a cross between axel and wget? |
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| 18:31.03 | deco | so far my username is the only group i have |
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| 18:33.25 | deco | zykotick9: omg thank you!! |
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| 18:36.50 | karlpinc | junix659: Are you using apt (apttitude/apt-get/etc) to install ntop? If not why not? |
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| 18:37.32 | junix659 | karlpinc: yes i have tried the backports of ntop, it won't collect data, i'm trying to find out if its my network switches (dell switches) or my system |
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| 18:48.11 | jhutchins | How do I get mplayer to handle flash? |
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| 18:52.11 | Gaia | hi everyone |
| 18:52.39 | jhutchins | Hm, it'll play from console, but not from file browser. Oh well. |
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| 18:53.22 | TuxFighter | how can I mount the dev and sys devices in a chroot system ? |
| 18:53.25 | TuxFighter | to install grub ? |
| 18:53.27 | ompaul | jhutchins: is that "just" a file association? |
| 18:54.14 | Bushmills | TuxFighter: mount ---bind is a way |
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| 18:54.43 | erkan^ | where can I download more theme? |
| 18:54.46 | erkan^ | for GNOME |
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| 18:54.58 | TuxFighter | I already had site where al those command are listed to establish the system |
| 18:55.02 | ompaul | gnome-looks.org |
| 18:55.05 | TuxFighter | but I cant find this howto anymore |
| 18:55.12 | erkan^ | thank you, ompaul |
| 18:55.23 | ompaul | your welcome |
| 18:55.35 | simonlnu | look* |
| 18:55.46 | jhutchins | Not sure, something crashes when I click on the flv. |
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| 18:56.03 | Bushmills | or organise |
| 18:56.05 | ompaul | erkan^: as simonlnu points out look not looks |
| 18:56.12 | jhutchins | nspluginviewer |
| 18:56.31 | erkan^ | simonlnu points? what is that, ompaul ? |
| 18:56.48 | ompaul | erkan^: he said look not looks so gnome-look.org |
| 18:56.53 | jhutchins | reassociating it with mplayer works. |
| 18:56.56 | Gaia | I messed my Debian install yesterday. I imagine I messed up the MBR as nothing loads (Debian or Windows). All I get is a Nero bootloader v6 that says starting caldera DR-DOS. |
| 18:57.05 | simonlnu | gnome-look.org |
| 18:57.15 | Gaia | Should a live CD boot? |
| 18:57.30 | Bushmills | Gaia: yes |
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| 18:57.37 | simonlnu | of course it should boot |
| 18:57.48 | Bushmills | unless... |
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| 18:58.17 | Gaia | I have a CD in there and it doesn't boot (the bios is now configured to boot off of the cd drive first) so the cd must be corrupted |
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| 18:58.33 | Gaia | corrupt |
| 18:58.49 | jhutchins | Gaia: Could be. Check your md5sums. |
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| 19:06.35 | Gaia | okidoki |
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| 19:10.34 | nsadmin | Gaia, curious, how did you write the image to the cd? |
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| 19:30.42 | squidie | Yo |
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| 19:31.06 | squidie | Anyone know the easiest way to edit /ect/apt/sources.list to included contrib non-free ? |
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| 19:32.03 | HelpMeHack | helllllo? |
| 19:32.58 | wolfric | does debian still use "volatile" for squeeze? i thought it got rid of that naming scheme and used something like updates |
| 19:33.09 | squidie | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.19 | wolfric | but i'm getting an option on expert install on squeeze live cd for it |
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| 19:33.34 | valdyn | squidie: vim! NO! emacs! |
| 19:33.38 | wolfric | squidie: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d |
| 19:33.49 | wolfric | squidie: then add contrib non-free to the end of the line. |
| 19:33.55 | squidie | Okay thanks |
| 19:34.04 | HelpMeHack | -___- why is it so hard to find someone with experience hacking shit to help me fuck someone over?! |
| 19:34.20 | valdyn | HelpMeHack: wrong channel |
| 19:34.34 | squidie | Or learn yourself :P |
| 19:34.37 | wolfric | valdyn: don't think so.. |
| 19:34.46 | wolfric | valdyn: don't really think there is a channel for those kinds of people |
| 19:35.18 | valdyn | wolfric: so you agree that this is not the right channel :) |
| 19:35.28 | wolfric | HelpMeHack: type /q to see the secret channels marked quiet. you might find something there |
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| 19:36.14 | wolfric | valdyn: as much as i agree that the response to trying to push a knife into a usb port deserves the answer "wrong port" |
| 19:36.26 | jacop | Hello, I am new to debian. I just installed the latest debian 6.02 but I am missing open office and alot of management packages. What number of debian cd do I need to install? |
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| 19:37.07 | wolfric | jacop: is downloading over the internet an option? |
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| 19:37.34 | jacop | wolfric, it seems to lagg out |
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| 19:37.42 | jacop | when I internet install |
| 19:37.50 | valdyn | wolfric: nice one |
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| 19:38.44 | jacop | is it just not included any more? the management packages? |
| 19:38.59 | valdyn | jacop: which management packages? |
| 19:39.09 | jacop | when i hit system |
| 19:39.12 | jacop | i go to admin |
| 19:39.17 | jacop | and only login is there |
| 19:39.21 | jacop | nothing else |
| 19:39.30 | valdyn | jacop: ok, thats because nothing else is installed |
| 19:40.00 | valdyn | jacop: openoffice is huge, its quite likely that its not on te first cd anyway |
| 19:40.02 | jacop | how do I install it so it has |
| 19:40.04 | valdyn | !cd contents |
| 19:40.05 | dpkg | To find out which CD or DVD image contains a particular package or source file, use the search engine at http://cdimage-search.debian.org/ . To see what a specific image contains, examine the package lists within the list-{cd,dvd} subdirectories for the relevant architecture at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ (e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/list-cd/). |
| 19:40.08 | valdyn | jacop: ^^ |
| 19:40.13 | wolfric | squidie: if you're comfortable using command line, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 19:40.25 | squidie | Yep got nano installed |
| 19:40.29 | squidie | Will do that |
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| 19:41.03 | valdyn | jacop: but.. it would be better if you just used apt-get install with the appropriate entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and not use a cd at all |
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| 19:41.29 | jacop | valdyn, debian 5.0 was not like this |
| 19:41.30 | squidie | Wolfric which line of text do I add it to? |
| 19:41.41 | valdyn | jacop: debian grows |
| 19:41.46 | wolfric | squidie: pastebin.org what you've got in there |
| 19:41.53 | valdyn | jacop: openoffice alone grew too |
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| 19:42.04 | valdyn | jacop: and theres only so much stuff that can fit on one cdrom |
| 19:42.20 | jacop | what about the management packages |
| 19:42.29 | valdyn | jacop: what about them? |
| 19:42.29 | jacop | i cant access my network |
| 19:42.37 | jacop | no manager |
| 19:42.42 | valdyn | jacop: theres like thousands of "management packages" |
| 19:43.07 | valdyn | jacop: what are you looking for *exactly* ? |
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| 19:43.20 | jacop | to make it work like it worked in debian 5.0 |
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| 19:43.31 | valdyn | jacop: just use debian 5 then? |
| 19:43.40 | jacop | its to old |
| 19:43.52 | valdyn | jacop: this isnt helpful, we dont know how you used your debian 5 |
| 19:43.52 | TuxFighter | is there any way to check all debian core files for corruption ? |
| 19:43.59 | TuxFighter | in chroot env |
| 19:44.09 | valdyn | jacop: come up with a specific limited problem and im sure someone will gladly help you |
| 19:44.29 | valdyn | TuxFighter: debsums |
| 19:44.35 | TuxFighter | perfect thx |
| 19:44.35 | zykotick9 | I'm trying to compile speed-dreams-2.0.0-a3-r3412-src and getting an error during "cmake ." about "Cannot find plib header files", i've installed libplib-dev as well as "apt-get build-dep torcs" - any suggestions? |
| 19:44.36 | jacop | i am missing administration buttons |
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| 19:45.09 | valdyn | jacop: if you cant come up with something better i would suggest you get a person to help you on site |
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| 19:48.16 | TuxFighter | omg that seems pretty good, I love you |
| 19:48.24 | linis | i cant ssh or putty into one of my linodes. the ajax console on the linode manager gives me the below mwassages http://pastebin.com/u3cgSiwW |
| 19:48.56 | wols | zykotick9: check the eact error and then look at the source and the gcc commandline. see if the header files can be opened |
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| 19:50.16 | wols | linis: some very basic bootup scripts can't run. e.g. no thing gets mounted |
| 19:50.17 | HelpMeHack | hello, is there anyone here whos can point me to a room where theres like helpful hackers who are willing to teach some shit to a newcomer? |
| 19:50.31 | deco | lol |
| 19:50.54 | HelpMeHack | :/// dont laugh, im pathetic. |
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| 19:51.06 | valdyn | HelpMeHack: stop this, you will be banned if you don't |
| 19:51.28 | wols | HelpMeHack: if I'm correct what you think "hacking" is, this is against freenode TOS. you won't find that here on this network |
| 19:51.35 | ansgar | HelpMeHack: You should grab the axe at the handle. It might hurt otherwise. |
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| 19:53.34 | squidie | Wolfric please see this image mate: Can't paste at all I'm stuck with CLI :) http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5728/img1263o.jpg |
| 19:53.48 | simonlnu | HelpMeHack: what you're describing isn't hacking it's cracking, and it's against this network's policy |
| 19:54.19 | simonlnu | HelpMeHack: also against channel policy, so i highly suggest you cease and desist from asking again, or you will be banned |
| 19:54.21 | wolfric | squidie: you're using a terminal right? you can just drag over the next and right click press copy |
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| 19:54.44 | intruder | I hacked the snow by building a snowman |
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| 19:54.50 | wolfric | squidie: ah |
| 19:54.57 | squidie | Wolfric nah I'm stuck in recovery mode as I'm having an issue with GPU drivers so CMD only :P |
| 19:55.06 | TuxFighter | o´right last questian, hopefully, how can check if grub is install correctly ? |
| 19:55.13 | wolfric | squidie: all the ones without a deb-src on them |
| 19:55.21 | wolfric | squidie: on the end (not including the top 2 commented lines) |
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| 19:55.58 | squidie | Wolfric looking to add contrib non-free |
| 19:56.37 | wolfric | squidie: yes so the end of the line looks like squeeze main contrib non-free |
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| 19:58.09 | wolfric | squidie: 3gs huh |
| 19:58.27 | squidie | Yup :) |
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| 19:59.01 | wolfric | squidie: you should check out what your iphone puts in those images some time btw |
| 19:59.18 | squidie | You got geoinfo aswell? :) |
| 19:59.19 | wolfric | squidie: it also includes your ios version and potentially stuff like your gps cords |
| 19:59.20 | wols | HelpMeHack: don't do such stupid things |
| 19:59.45 | wolfric | squidie: nope not that i can see anyway |
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| 19:59.53 | squidie | What are you using to see this btw? |
| 20:00.20 | wolfric | squidie: right click properties in linux or windows should pull it up in the meta data |
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| 20:00.38 | wolfric | squidie: it's not hidden. If you're on windows there's even an option there to clear all the data. |
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| 20:01.00 | squidie | Ah yeah I see now :) |
| 20:01.27 | squidie | Oh yes I see GPS info :P |
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| 20:02.23 | izua | installing iceweasel 5 after instructions from here, 3rd box i'm doing this on, i get "Depends: xulrunner-6.0 (>= 6.0-1~bpo60+1) but it is not going to be installed" when trying to install iceweasel. |
| 20:02.34 | izua | whoops, here = http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 20:03.10 | izua | tried to reinstall xulrunner manually, same thing happens. |
| 20:03.47 | wolfric | izua: what version of debian are you using? |
| 20:03.48 | dashs | To change the default location of the maildir for all user shells, must one alter the command line of all pm_mail.so invocation? |
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| 20:04.45 | izua | wolfric: 6.0.2 |
| 20:04.51 | dashs | er pam_mail.so invocations. |
| 20:05.10 | izua | installing xulrunner fails with this: Depends: libnss3-1d (>= 3.12.10) but 3.12.8-1+squeeze1 is to be installed |
| 20:06.35 | jelly-home | izua: either you're using a wrong repository, or the package is misbuilt... |
| 20:06.36 | linis | wols: i have logged in through, anyway i can detect which files are missing and replace them ?? |
| 20:06.37 | jelly-home | !bat |
| 20:06.38 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 20:06.49 | jelly-home | izua: ^^ |
| 20:07.25 | jelly-home | izua: show apt-cache policy xulrunner-6.0 libnss3-1d |
| 20:08.52 | izua | http://paste.debian.net/126328/ |
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| 20:11.21 | izua | i have also tried removing the new sources, and installing the old (stable) iceweasel, but that also fails now, with the same error. |
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| 20:12.45 | TuxFighter | is there a way to mount the fs manuall in initramfs? |
| 20:12.47 | TuxFighter | I can´t |
| 20:13.13 | suigeneris | hello |
| 20:13.28 | nvictor | wols: you there? |
| 20:13.37 | suigeneris | what version of debian should I get? I want to install |
| 20:13.45 | Flash__ | stable |
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| 20:14.19 | thinice | >.< |
| 20:14.22 | suigeneris | that is dated back 2009 |
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| 20:14.29 | suigeneris | is that correct? |
| 20:14.41 | Flash__ | er, no |
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| 20:15.14 | izua | jelly-home: poke? |
| 20:15.14 | suigeneris | what is it then? |
| 20:15.55 | Flash__ | debian.org - download, http, stable on the platform and form you want |
| 20:15.58 | TuxFighter | my /etc/fstab is wrong, how fix via initramfs ? |
| 20:16.24 | Flash__ | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ |
| 20:16.29 | Flash__ | @ suigeneris |
| 20:16.33 | valdyn | TuxFighter: man update-initramfs |
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| 20:17.01 | TuxFighter | negative I am in the kernel cmd |
| 20:17.14 | suigeneris | kudos Flash__ |
| 20:17.22 | valdyn | TuxFighter: you mean the busybox shell? |
| 20:17.36 | TuxFighter | no the ash |
| 20:17.46 | TuxFighter | oh yes |
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| 20:17.58 | valdyn | TuxFighter: not much point in fixing the fstab there |
| 20:18.09 | valdyn | TuxFighter: just mount your filesystems |
| 20:18.14 | TuxFighter | wont work |
| 20:18.18 | suigeneris | Flash__: what is jigdo? |
| 20:18.23 | valdyn | TuxFighter: why wont it work? |
| 20:18.25 | Flash__ | unsure, some other form of dl |
| 20:18.27 | wols | !tell suigeneris about ig |
| 20:18.45 | TuxFighter | mount: mounting /dev/sda3 on /mnt/root failed: Invalid argument |
| 20:18.48 | wols | suigeneris: a precursor of torrents of sorts |
| 20:19.02 | valdyn | TuxFighter: mount -t ext3 ... |
| 20:19.17 | TuxFighter | same |
| 20:19.40 | TuxFighter | there is anything specific in the mount of bb |
| 20:19.43 | suigeneris | will I need another client to dl? |
| 20:19.51 | valdyn | TuxFighter: yea, its quite limited, but this should work |
| 20:19.59 | valdyn | TuxFighter: does /mnt/root exist? |
| 20:20.04 | TuxFighter | yea |
| 20:20.07 | TuxFighter | created |
| 20:20.15 | suigeneris | because I am on ubuntu livecd, I want to install debian |
| 20:20.17 | valdyn | TuxFighter: what about /dev/sda3 ? |
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| 20:20.26 | TuxFighter | also |
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| 20:20.43 | TuxFighter | today its really the day of looping problems |
| 20:20.58 | Flash__ | suigeneris, you're probably best getting the netinst cd image via http |
| 20:21.03 | suigeneris | wha? why does debian come in 8 dvds? |
| 20:21.15 | devilchaos | 8 cds maybe |
| 20:21.16 | valdyn | suigeneris: its that big |
| 20:21.25 | devilchaos | no really? |
| 20:21.30 | Flash__ | because it has many packages. but you don't need them all, so get the netinst and install what you want when you want it |
| 20:21.34 | valdyn | devilchaos: that includes source i think |
| 20:21.40 | devilchaos | ah |
| 20:21.46 | suigeneris | devilchaos: dvds |
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| 20:22.01 | valdyn | suigeneris: you dont need those dvds, use netinstall if you have wired network |
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| 20:22.29 | devilchaos | yeah netinstall is the shizneeeeeeh |
| 20:22.57 | devilchaos | text installer is best if ur technically minded |
| 20:23.08 | izua | installing iceweasel 5 after instructions from here, 3rd box i'm doing this on, i get "Depends: xulrunner-6.0 (>= 6.0-1~bpo60+1) but it is not going to be installed" when trying to install iceweasel. i have tried to remove the sources from the apt list and install the old iceweasel, but now that one also fails. |
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| 20:23.35 | izua | right now the only way to run it is with a binary copied from a different machine. here's the policy paste http://paste.debian.net/126328/ |
| 20:23.51 | devilchaos | because the other dependances have been removed also with the old iceweasel |
| 20:24.02 | izua | yes but the new ones are not installed. |
| 20:24.06 | Default1_ | hello |
| 20:24.30 | suigeneris | okay do I get smallcd, smallercd or verysmallcd? |
| 20:24.49 | devilchaos | what package manager are you using? dselect or aptitude or..? |
| 20:25.03 | izua | apt-get |
| 20:25.38 | izua | xulrunner fails with xulrunner-6.0 : Depends: libnss3-1d (>= 3.12.10) but 3.12.8-1+squeeze1 is to be installed |
| 20:25.38 | jelly-home | hah, dselect |
| 20:26.05 | devilchaos | yeah its old but i still like to use it sometimes |
| 20:26.27 | izua | and obviously i can't remove libnss3 because of this http://www.bash.org/?891175 |
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| 20:27.19 | devilchaos | try it through aptitude and it might resolve the dep issues as long as your sources file is set correctly |
| 20:27.25 | izua | nope. |
| 20:27.28 | izua | already tried it. |
| 20:27.41 | jelly-home | izua: what did aptitude say? |
| 20:27.47 | izua | the source file was set by the installer |
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| 20:28.17 | izua | a) keep uninstalled iceweasel (wtf) b) keep uninstalled xulrunner (again, wtf). |
| 20:28.26 | izua | accepted the solution, nothing downloaded, nothing installed. |
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| 20:28.50 | devilchaos | or bin iceweasel and install firefox? |
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| 20:29.01 | jelly-home | izua: you should have reject the solution to make aptitude search for a different one |
| 20:29.08 | valdyn | izua: use a different command to progressively solve the problem like: |
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| 20:29.28 | suigeneris | do I get http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz ? |
| 20:29.37 | izua | isn't really familiar with package management in debian |
| 20:29.42 | valdyn | izua: aptitude install iceweasel xulrunner-6.0 libnss3-1d |
| 20:29.57 | valdyn | izua: that should produce a new error at least |
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| 20:31.27 | helo | my boot process isn't making it past "Waiting for /dev/ to be fully populated..." |
| 20:31.39 | izua | valdyn: that works, but it doesn't install 5 though. |
| 20:32.15 | valdyn | izua: "apt-cache policy iceweasel" should list 5, show us the output of that command |
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| 20:32.42 | izua | isntalled, 3.5, candidated 6. pasting the rest now |
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| 20:32.54 | izua | http://paste.debian.net/126330/ |
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| 20:33.14 | valdyn | izua: so you really want iceweasel 6 ? |
| 20:33.20 | izua | 5 is good. or 4. |
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| 20:33.29 | Flash__ | suigeneris, that sounds like an info file. try a .iso |
| 20:33.38 | valdyn | izua: so add the sources for 5 instead |
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| 20:33.57 | devilchaos | suigeneris: you want the netinstall cd and whatever achitechture ur using i386 for 32bit and amd64 for well 64bt and dual core stuff |
| 20:34.09 | zykotick9 | valdyn, it appears 6 is the m.d.n -release now... |
| 20:34.11 | valdyn | izua: oh, because 6 is alerady release and 5 is probably not available anymore |
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| 20:34.20 | valdyn | izua: is 6 not ok? |
| 20:34.22 | izua | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.23 | izua | erm |
| 20:34.24 | izua | failpaste |
| 20:34.29 | suigeneris | Flash__: Im getting 180mb stuff |
| 20:34.31 | izua | yeah. the only options are for 3.5 and stable. |
| 20:34.38 | suigeneris | devilchaos too |
| 20:34.47 | Flash__ | 180mb sounds about right for netinst |
| 20:34.52 | devilchaos | yup |
| 20:34.56 | valdyn | izua: so what would my above command install? |
| 20:35.08 | izua | 3.5 and a matching xulrunner |
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| 20:35.34 | valdyn | izua: my above command installs xulrunning-6.0 explicitely, that doesnt match 3.5 |
| 20:35.43 | izua | hmm. |
| 20:35.51 | izua | well |
| 20:35.56 | izua | s/matching/a xulrunner that works with 3.5 |
| 20:36.10 | valdyn | izua: show us the command and the output, you can use aptitude -s install ... |
| 20:36.33 | cdVarLog | We're discussing cost-benefit of upgrading our production web-servers from Lenny to Squeeze: now, later or hold out for Wheezy. |
| 20:36.33 | cdVarLog | Is there any chance Wheezy will be delivered in less than a year from now? |
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| 20:36.37 | izua | so, you want me to uninstall iceweasel 3.5 and xulrunner 6, and rerun it? |
| 20:36.59 | valdyn | izua: nah |
| 20:37.09 | valdyn | izua: you dont need to uninstall anything |
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| 20:37.31 | jelly-home | cdVarLog: unlikely |
| 20:37.53 | jelly-home | !wheezy bet 1 |
| 20:38.02 | izua | 4 solutions: http://paste.debian.net/126332/ |
| 20:38.16 | devilchaos | whens the kernel going to 3.0 heard on the grapevine torvolds said it was bout time it happened? |
| 20:38.44 | valdyn | judd: versions libnss3-1d |
| 20:38.45 | judd | Package libnss3-1d on i386 -- lenny: 3.12.3.1-0lenny3; lenny-proposed-updates: 3.12.3.1-0lenny4; lenny-security: 3.12.3.1-0lenny4; lenny-backports: 3.12.8-1+squeeze1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.12.8-1+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 3.12.8-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 3.12.10-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.12.10-3; sid: 3.12.11-1 |
| 20:38.47 | zykotick9 | devilchaos, wheezy/sid are already using kernel 3 |
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| 20:39.05 | devilchaos | oh |
| 20:39.41 | valdyn | izua: you need squeeze-backports entries that allow upgrading your libnss |
| 20:39.43 | jelly-home | izua: aptitude install iceweasel=6.0-1~bpo60+1 |
| 20:39.58 | devilchaos | am a deffo installing debian bk on laptop tommorow |
| 20:40.12 | izua | jelly-home: doesn't work. all solutions involve 3.5 |
| 20:40.25 | devilchaos | am off have fun |
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| 20:40.40 | valdyn | izua: did you show us your sources.list already? |
| 20:41.06 | izua | i have no idea where to get those. i just ^C ^Ved the ones from mozilla.debian.com |
| 20:41.30 | jelly-home | izua: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 20:41.30 | valdyn | izua: maybe you didnt read and follow the documentation there properly |
| 20:41.38 | valdyn | izua: so show us your sources.list |
| 20:41.49 | izua | one moment |
| 20:41.59 | izua | dude, it says 'add this two sources two the source list' |
| 20:42.07 | izua | i did it three days ago on a different machine, and it worked. |
| 20:42.07 | jelly-home | I think there ought to be a 5.0 build somewhere there... mozilla has 5.0.1 for download as stable |
| 20:42.37 | izua | http://paste.debian.net/126334/ |
| 20:43.22 | valdyn | izua: apt-cache policy libnss3-1d |
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| 20:44.50 | valdyn | izua: did you all this time skip the "-t squeeze-backports" ? |
| 20:44.54 | jelly-home | valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/126328/ |
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| 20:45.45 | izua | valdyn: apt-cache policy libnss3-1d |
| 20:45.51 | izua | huh |
| 20:46.00 | jelly-home | you already pasted it |
| 20:46.09 | izua | eh, yeah, now i remember |
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| 20:46.42 | valdyn | neat, everythings fine |
| 20:46.47 | valdyn | apttitude command was wrong |
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| 20:48.30 | izua | right. |
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| 20:48.36 | izua | is there a right one? |
| 20:49.01 | valdyn | izua: "aptitude -t squeeze-backports install iceweasel" probably |
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| 20:50.01 | izua | ah lol, that offers no solutions to install iceweasel 6 |
| 20:50.11 | izua | the only solutions available are for 3.5 |
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| 20:50.35 | valdyn | izua: what if you use apt-get instead? |
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| 20:50.54 | izua | broken link with xulrunner6 |
| 20:51.03 | izua | (from both backports and standard repos) |
| 20:51.14 | valdyn | izua: broken link? |
| 20:51.25 | izua | erm, dependencies |
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| 20:52.08 | izua | the only way it works is with a binary copied from a different machine. |
| 20:52.50 | zykotick9 | izua, "aptitude install -t squeeze-backports iceweasel" just installed IW6 on my machine? |
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| 20:53.37 | heraclitus_ | sorry for my ignorance but how can i find out what device is my usb stick? |
| 20:53.43 | izua | it just uninstalled 3.5 on mine |
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| 20:53.47 | izua | and didn't install anything. |
| 20:53.49 | jelly-home | heraclitus_: blkid |
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| 20:54.11 | zykotick9 | izua, have you run "apt-get update" since adding the m.d.n repo? |
| 20:54.17 | izua | of course ._. |
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| 20:54.36 | valdyn | izua: apt-get -t squeeze-backports install iceweasel xulrunner-6.0 |
| 20:54.41 | valdyn | izua: what does that give? |
| 20:54.43 | jelly-home | heraclitus_: assuming it has a unique label, which might not be the case. Check dmesg output |
| 20:55.27 | izua | valdyn, xulrunner-6.0 : Depends: libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.7.4) but 3.7.3-1 is to be installed |
| 20:55.32 | squidie | Can I ask someone when installing nvidia drivers all I need is the kernal and the VGA driver? |
| 20:55.38 | izua | however, libsqlite3-0 is already the newest version. |
| 20:55.46 | valdyn | izua: you must have messed with pinning |
| 20:55.58 | valdyn | judd: versions libsqlite3-0 |
| 20:55.59 | judd | Package libsqlite3-0 on i386 -- lenny: 3.5.9-6; lenny-backports: 3.7.3-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.7.3-1; sid: 3.7.7-2; wheezy: 3.7.7-2 |
| 20:56.14 | valdyn | geez |
| 20:56.23 | valdyn | nevermind |
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| 20:56.39 | izua | eerhm |
| 20:56.43 | izua | i have no idea what pinning is |
| 20:56.51 | heraclitus_ | jelly-home, thanks, this gives some info, but i want to know what device it is, /dev/something because it mounts atomagically, and i don't know what its device is |
| 20:57.24 | valdyn | izua: your xulrunning-6.0 depends on something that does not seem to be available, but maybe judd is outdated |
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| 20:57.46 | aksn | heraclitus_, if it's already mounted you can know it with a df command |
| 20:57.59 | izua | uh, yeah |
| 20:58.03 | izua | is there any way to fix it though? |
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| 20:58.24 | valdyn | izua: question is why this works for zykotick9 |
| 20:58.26 | suigeneris | heraclitus_: or mount |
| 20:58.29 | heraclitus_ | jelly-home, i need to know it to write iso image into it, cat isosomething.iso > /dev/something |
| 20:58.38 | izua | i could probably drop out of X and remove libnss or the main fail, and then reinstall it, but i'd prefer not to. |
| 20:59.01 | heraclitus_ | aksn, thanks, right, df gives info about all disks, thanks |
| 20:59.02 | valdyn | izua: nah, your libnss looked fine |
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| 21:00.15 | jelly-home | heraclitus_: umount it before doing cat |
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| 21:00.54 | izua | hmm |
| 21:00.59 | valdyn | izua: trying this locally, i'll let you know |
| 21:01.06 | izua | noticed apt-get update spew this: W: Failed to fetch http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/squeeze-backports/Release Unable to find expected entry main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 21:01.18 | jelly-home | izua: you're on amd64? |
| 21:01.28 | izua | yes. |
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| 21:02.11 | valdyn | the actual libsqlite3-0 is 3.7.6.3-1~bpo60+1 , thats good enough |
| 21:02.21 | valdyn | izua: so your apt-get update did not work properly |
| 21:02.47 | izua | the funny thing is, i did this on an very similar system (dif hardware layout, but stil amd64, debian 6.0.2) three days ago and it worked. |
| 21:02.51 | valdyn | izua: or alternatively this is yet broken for amd64 |
| 21:03.04 | zykotick9 | amd64 working here? |
| 21:03.15 | valdyn | zykotick9: you're on amd64? |
| 21:03.15 | izua | zykotick9: about-version, please? |
| 21:03.28 | izua | uh, help->about, i mean |
| 21:03.38 | valdyn | izua: thats useful for what? |
| 21:03.49 | zykotick9 | izua, 6.0 |
| 21:04.01 | valdyn | izua: no surprise, theres a new iceweasel release i think |
| 21:04.08 | valdyn | zykotick9: amd64? |
| 21:04.16 | zykotick9 | valdyn, yes |
| 21:04.49 | valdyn | izua: "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install libsqlite3-0" gets what? |
| 21:05.25 | izua | valdyn: already at the newest version. |
| 21:05.44 | valdyn | izua: and which one is that? |
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| 21:05.54 | izua | uh, sorry, libsqlite3-0 |
| 21:06.03 | valdyn | izua: *version* |
| 21:06.11 | izua | *shrugs* |
| 21:06.14 | squidie | Can I ask someone when installing nvidia drivers all I need is the kernal and the VGA driver? |
| 21:06.17 | izua | that's all that it says. |
| 21:06.29 | squidie | Or just nvidia vga driver? |
| 21:06.37 | valdyn | izua: "apt-cache policy libsqlite3-0" tells you the version next to "Installed:" |
| 21:06.42 | izua | thought the 3-0 was the version, hm. |
| 21:06.49 | zykotick9 | in case there are non-believers http://imagebin.org/167989 |
| 21:06.50 | izua | ah, right. |
| 21:06.52 | izua | 37.3-1 |
| 21:07.14 | valdyn | 3.7.3-1 maybe |
| 21:07.31 | kingsley | squidie: Have you decided which driver you want to use? My understanding is that your choices may be nv, nouveau, nvidia and vesa. |
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| 21:07.56 | squidie | nvidia 173.14.27 kernal for my 8200 |
| 21:08.00 | valdyn | izua: run "apt-get update" and see if the Candidate version changes |
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| 21:08.04 | squidie | It's in aptitude |
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| 21:08.52 | zykotick9 | squidie, you might want to have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 21:08.56 | kingsley | squidie: OK, look at these packages: linux-headers-<your kernel version>, nvidia-kernel-dkms and nvidia-xconfig. |
| 21:09.00 | izua | backports for 6 still failed, candidated for sqlite did not change. |
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| 21:09.38 | kingsley | squidie: Coincidentally, I just installed an nVidia driver a few hours ago. |
| 21:09.56 | kingsley | Is there a user friendly way like "dpkg-reconfigure" to help configure xorg.conf's mouse, especially to emulate a middle button and scroll wheel? |
| 21:10.08 | wols | kingsley: no |
| 21:10.16 | kingsley | needs to go soon. |
| 21:10.16 | valdyn | izua: your apt-get update is not doing the same for you as for us, maybe a proxy in between or whatever |
| 21:10.20 | wols | and normally, both should work out of the box |
| 21:10.25 | squidie | Kernel is 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 21:10.35 | squidie | Stock kernel I belive |
| 21:10.56 | helo | from which warehouse? |
| 21:10.56 | wols | squidie: what's your problem? |
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| 21:11.49 | izua | valdyn: i did wget http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/squeeze-backports/Release, stat Release, file size 18317. |
| 21:12.03 | squidie | Had issues boot into Debian where I had a black screen and wasn't able to usre anything other than CLI in recovery mode, so added new sources contrib non-free etc to downloaded Nvidia drivers, just not sure if I need to install both nvidia vga and or the 173 driver... |
| 21:12.11 | squidie | booting* |
| 21:12.18 | valdyn | izua: right size |
| 21:12.30 | valdyn | izua: i suggest you get the package manually and dpkg -i file.deb |
| 21:12.35 | wols | !tell squidie about nvidia |
| 21:12.56 | valdyn | izua: and whatever else you need to complete dependencies |
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| 21:15.21 | izua | valdyn: that also fails with package xulrunner-6 is not installed. |
| 21:15.35 | valdyn | izua: *what* fails? |
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| 21:16.19 | izua | dpkg -i iceweasel/amd64 |
| 21:16.19 | dpkg | removes a liver from izua and replaces it with iceweasel/amd64 |
| 21:16.48 | valdyn | izua: i said you should run that command? |
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| 21:17.18 | izua | *shrug* |
| 21:17.29 | izua | you know what |
| 21:17.40 | valdyn | izua: i said to download missing packages, thats first the libsqlite3-0 manually and then dpkg -i the downloaded file |
| 21:18.10 | jelly-home | in a clean squeeze amd64 chroot, I can install iceweasel with the recommended command cleanly |
| 21:18.20 | valdyn | jelly-home: it works fine yes |
| 21:18.33 | jelly-home | izua: did you mess with /etc/apt/preferences? |
| 21:18.35 | valdyn | jelly-home: he has harddisk problems or hes getting a broken file by a transparent proxy |
| 21:18.44 | izua | yeah, did those first, ended up with deps problems |
| 21:18.54 | izua | decided to go anyway with iceweasel. |
| 21:19.13 | izua | jelly-home: i did _EXACTLY_ what mozilla.debian.com says. nothing less, nothing more. |
| 21:19.22 | jelly-home | izua: me too! :-) |
| 21:19.23 | nsadmin | izua, that is also not the exact text of the cmd you ean |
| 21:19.37 | jelly-home | except it was mozilla.debian.net for me |
| 21:19.49 | valdyn | izua: youre getting a mangled release file, theres no way we can fix this for you |
| 21:19.55 | izua | i _might_ have a few other crosscompilers installed, but except those, the system is as new. |
| 21:19.59 | valdyn | izua: so go to pdo and download the packages |
| 21:20.17 | nsadmin | debian.com? hmm, what's that? |
| 21:20.52 | izua | valdyn: lol? |
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| 21:22.08 | izua | valdyn: md5sum Release: 3d7acbd44fb7b68cac29322748e7bbe3 |
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| 21:22.27 | izua | please be so kind and run an md5 on the file yourself |
| 21:22.35 | valdyn | 3d7acbd44fb7b68cac29322748e7bbe3 Release |
| 21:22.36 | izua | wget http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/squeeze-backports/Release etc |
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| 21:22.46 | izua | uuuh |
| 21:22.49 | Bushmills | dig +short debian.com ns -> ns1.debian.org. |
| 21:22.57 | valdyn | izua: that doesnt mean that your apt-get gets the right one |
| 21:23.00 | jelly-home | izua: if the file was borked pgp signature check would fail |
| 21:23.12 | izua | uh, wait, that too. |
| 21:23.35 | izua | uh. |
| 21:24.08 | izua | so i believe till the next major release, 4 or 5 won't get in the stable tree. |
| 21:24.19 | valdyn | izua: 4 or 5 will never |
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| 21:24.33 | jelly-home | izua: can you aptitude install libsqlite3-0=3.7.6.3-1~bpo60+1 |
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| 21:25.47 | izua | hm, every run of aptitude says at the end "Current status: 0 broken [-1]" |
| 21:26.16 | izua | jelly-home: that uinstalled the existing libsqlite, and now it says Unable to find a version "3.7.6.3-1~bpo60+1" for the package "libsqlite3-0" |
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| 21:26.19 | nsadmin | izua, I don't mean to sound totally negative; I'm actually trying to help. One way I do that is encourage more exact questions, and more exact info in them as this tends to reduce stress on helpers. when you interact with a helper who is relaxed, you uxually get better responses... and you usually get responses :) |
| 21:26.42 | valdyn | nsadmin: the apt-get error message is up there |
| 21:26.44 | Bushmills | "0 broken" is bad. most boring case, nothing to fix |
| 21:26.56 | jelly-home | izua: pastebin the complete output, please |
| 21:26.59 | valdyn | nsadmin: his setup is totally fine, his apt-get update is *all* that we see wrong |
| 21:27.05 | izua | nsadmin: i'm not sure what to provide. i have pastebinned everything they asked for. |
| 21:27.11 | valdyn | nsadmin: ill try to find that |
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| 21:27.24 | jelly-home | izua: also, output of apt-cache policy libsqlite3-0 if you haven't already |
| 21:27.32 | izua | Unable to find a version "3.7.6.3-1~bpo60+1" for the package "libsqlite3-0" |
| 21:27.38 | izua | http://pastebin.com/BEBvj4Mp |
| 21:27.44 | suigeneris | good night all |
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| 21:27.59 | suigeneris | thanks for help |
| 21:27.59 | izua | http://pastebin.com/gC7tEDsS |
| 21:28.10 | izua | policyt of libsqlite3-0 |
| 21:28.11 | nsadmin | izua, I saw a dpkg invocation that wasn't what you really ran, and there's a fair chance they understand anyway |
| 21:28.40 | valdyn | nsadmin: this is the error: http://pastebin.com/4wSSeNLE |
| 21:28.44 | jelly-home | izua: hm, no... |
| 21:28.45 | jelly-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.45 | jelly-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.53 | jelly-home | izua: ? |
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| 21:29.43 | izua | nsadmin: http://pastebin.com/qyvmVe5M |
| 21:29.50 | jelly-home | izua: did you remove mozilla.debian.net sources.list lines in the meantime? |
| 21:29.56 | izua | nope. |
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| 21:30.56 | izua | i don't really care about the dep list and what the package managers think |
| 21:31.02 | izua | i have a separate binary that manages to work most of the time |
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| 21:31.14 | nsadmin | izua, oic, and you and valdyn verified the md5sum on the release file you did have, so could this be a bug in the release file? |
| 21:31.15 | izua | but somehow i have a feeling this will crash even more stuff into the future. |
| 21:31.33 | jelly-home | izua: rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/*_* && aptitude update ... and verify that last apt-cache policy |
| 21:31.53 | squidie | Is the DPGK user a bot? :?) |
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| 21:32.00 | valdyn | squidie: yes |
| 21:32.02 | nsadmin | !bot |
| 21:32.03 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 21:32.03 | squidie | lol |
| 21:32.07 | squidie | Been having a right convo :P |
| 21:32.18 | jelly-home | izua: if it's missing, you don't have the same view of mozilla.debian.net as I do |
| 21:32.18 | squidie | Oh well |
| 21:32.40 | izua | http://pastebin.com/TWK8NYgz |
| 21:32.44 | squidie | Can I ask when aptitude says "unsatisfied" it means I need to install those packages etc? |
| 21:33.19 | izua | hmph. |
| 21:33.33 | izua | now it says "Ign" instead of "Get" for each of the mozilla repos. |
| 21:33.33 | valdyn | squidie: no |
| 21:33.55 | valdyn | squidie: it means you need to make packages available, installing is automatic |
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| 21:34.03 | jelly-home | izua: after wiping old apt lists? |
| 21:34.12 | squidie | Oh okay so it'll install those as well when I install that package? |
| 21:34.26 | izua | yes. |
| 21:34.29 | valdyn | squidie: yes |
| 21:34.29 | squidie | Okay cheers |
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| 21:35.34 | nsadmin | you could also try aptitude -f install |
| 21:35.38 | jelly-home | izua: are the old files somehow still there in /var/lib/apt/lists/*mozilla* ? |
| 21:35.48 | izua | lol |
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| 21:36.11 | izua | ran that again, lists/ is empty. |
| 21:36.35 | jelly-home | it should not be empty, there should be a "locks" file and a "partial" directory |
| 21:36.58 | jelly-home | er, "lock" |
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| 21:37.27 | izua | erm |
| 21:37.32 | izua | lists/*mozilla* |
| 21:38.27 | izua | maybe it's a gpg/encryption error? |
| 21:38.37 | izua | i did add the keys mozilla.debian.net suggested |
| 21:39.14 | valdyn | key usage is not enforced I think |
| 21:39.18 | valdyn | not on my squeeze |
| 21:39.25 | valdyn | just gives a warning to miss a key |
| 21:39.55 | izua | hm. |
| 21:40.08 | izua | mozilla.debian.net seems to be ignored, that's probably the issue? |
| 21:40.14 | izua | (when running apt-get update) |
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| 21:40.42 | valdyn | izua: we cant tell unless you tell us what exactly is being Ignored |
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| 21:42.30 | jelly-home | izua: which editor did you use to change /etc/apt/source.list? Just for fun, add an empty line at the end |
| 21:42.42 | jelly-home | mind the typos |
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| 21:43.04 | jelly-home | ah... |
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| 21:43.35 | jelly-home | izua: there should be no word " main" in line 17 |
| 21:43.45 | jelly-home | deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-release |
| 21:44.09 | izua | oh ._. |
| 21:44.12 | izua | hm |
| 21:44.13 | jelly-home | izua: "no more, no less", eh??? |
| 21:44.18 | izua | vim |
| 21:45.39 | jelly-home | missed it an hour ago |
| 21:45.55 | izua | neat. |
| 21:46.19 | izua | it removed libsqlite, installed iceweasel, iceweasel crashes |
| 21:46.33 | izua | i removed it, asked it to install it again, now it installed libsqlite back. |
| 21:46.45 | izua | bah. |
| 21:46.51 | jelly-home | serves you right for installing packages from $DEITY knows which release manually |
| 21:46.51 | izua | this is becoming silly |
| 21:47.11 | jelly-home | izua: take notice of which version it removed and which version it's installing back |
| 21:47.31 | izua | forget it, i just did this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nQ2oiVqKHw |
| 21:47.52 | jelly-home | !customer |
| 21:47.52 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 21:47.56 | izua | rofl |
| 21:48.05 | izua | i'll just stick to 3.5 on this box, and probably reinstall everything. |
| 21:48.15 | izua | well, ihave another issue tbh. |
| 21:48.38 | jelly-home | it ought to work if you do it the proposed way and not deviate |
| 21:48.38 | izua | i installed okular, and it seems to spam the "open with" list, but it will never open any pdfs, even if it's associated |
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| 21:49.56 | izua | however, the main problem is that neither okular, nor evince, nor xpdf can zoom past 400%. |
| 21:50.24 | izua | is there a secret setting of sort to let me zoom past that? adobe reader doesn't seem to care about it, for instance. |
| 21:51.15 | valdyn | izua: just use adobe reader? |
| 21:51.27 | izua | well, i'll remove the source files from mozilla, update, remove iceweasel and everything that depends on it without removing gnome and base tools, then run the info on that page again. although i believe at this point someting else is seriously fubar |
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| 21:52.42 | jelly-home | izua: best to ask in a kde channel about their app |
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| 21:52.57 | evilbulgarian | hi, what is the best method to find out phisical cpu's and cores and memory size? |
| 21:53.29 | izua | evilbulgarian: cat /proc/cpuinfo, cat /proc/meminfo |
| 21:53.50 | jelly-home | evilbulgarian: and knowledge of how to interpret the data |
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| 21:54.02 | evilbulgarian | izua: ok so look for physical id? |
| 21:54.09 | evilbulgarian | to know how many cores |
| 21:54.14 | izua | jelly-home: it's sucky. |
| 21:54.20 | jelly-home | !what's my hardware |
| 21:54.20 | dpkg | You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw, or even dmesg to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! If you install lshw, run "lshw -html > myhardware.html" as root and you'll have a nice HTML summation. See also <myram>, <driver locator>. |
| 21:54.21 | izua | i hope they get at least firefox fixed. |
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| 21:54.30 | jelly-home | izua: works for me! |
| 21:54.31 | izua | and this is because ofthe new release |
| 21:54.43 | izua | hm. |
| 21:54.52 | izua | so it's a local issue. |
| 21:55.00 | izua | i thought this was related to the new release |
| 21:55.09 | zykotick9 | jelly-home, i think the only person it doesn't work for is izua |
| 21:55.32 | izua | maybe it's a local mirror issue |
| 21:55.43 | jelly-home | zykotick9: and on a single machine |
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| 21:57.16 | izua | well.. i'm gonna try this later in a vm |
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| 22:03.45 | squidie | Seems to be working fine now chaps, cheers |
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| 22:06.36 | dondelelcaro | fignewman: hrm; I see that too... probably a bug. |
| 22:06.49 | dondelelcaro | fignewman: I personally don't use imagemagick to display images, so I hadn't seen it before. |
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| 22:08.20 | dondelelcaro | fignewman: but anyway, you're best off filing a bug |
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| 22:10.38 | tux0 | fignewman do you know about `qiv' ? |
| 22:10.56 | fignewman | dondelelcaro: ok, thanks. Glad it's not just me. I haven't really found an image viewer I like yet (I still miss xv) and just default to 'display'. |
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| 22:12.06 | jelly-home | ii xv 3.10a-jumbo20050501-1+jelly.0 An image viewer and manipulator for the X Window System. # this? |
| 22:12.06 | fignewman | tux0: I don't remember. I had kind of settled on geeqie at one point, but there are still 3,739,231 more image viewers in sid to try out :) |
| 22:12.30 | fignewman | jelly-home: that's the one. I still have that package installed on my home system too |
| 22:12.40 | tux0 | fignewman give `qiv' a try |
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| 22:13.20 | tux0 | `qiv yourimage.png' |
| 22:13.26 | fignewman | tux0: thanks. Installing now. |
| 22:17.22 | n0sq | is considering buying a new laptop |
| 22:17.35 | n0sq | might stay with dell |
| 22:17.35 | Blue1 | !hcl |
| 22:17.35 | dpkg | [hcl] Hardware Compatibility Lists for Linux include http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (PCI verification only), http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/ , http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatdb/lists/hardware_linux.html and http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ . Also ask me about <driver locator>, <judd-hardware>. |
| 22:18.51 | fignewman | tux0: seems ok. The magnification window (< key) won't stick around. Might be hitting one of my fvwm2 rules. |
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| 22:19.40 | DNS777 | hola guys |
| 22:19.47 | DNS777 | what means > Compatibility levels before 5 are deprecated ? |
| 22:19.54 | DNS777 | and how to fix that |
| 22:20.29 | DNS777 | couldnt find the right answer in web so far |
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| 22:22.08 | jelly-home | DNS777: the right answer is "this source package needs to be updated to conform to newer packaging standards" |
| 22:22.23 | themill | DNS777: it means you should be using a debian/compat of 5 or more (7 is probably what you want) and the behaviour of the tools will change slightly, as described in debhelper(7) |
| 22:22.37 | tux0 | fignewman never used that myself just +/- |
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| 22:23.03 | tux0 | in fullscreen mode you can pan around |
| 22:23.09 | DNS777 | thx a lot |
| 22:23.15 | DNS777 | jelly-home :) |
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| 22:30.32 | koshieFinalReliz | Hi everyone. |
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| 22:30.58 | tux0 | koshieFinalReliz hello |
| 22:31.19 | koshieFinalReliz | I've installed with debootstrap squeeze in my squeeze, in the repertory /squeeze-chroot, if I want (for example on my server) install some service I've just to change directory into the chroot and do what I want ? |
| 22:31.22 | koshieFinalReliz | Nothing more ? |
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| 22:31.45 | billybigrigger_ | anyone know how to disable hdmi audio through an nvidia card? |
| 22:31.56 | billybigrigger_ | i'm using a dvi to hdmi cable from my pc to my hdtv... |
| 22:32.04 | poisonbit | koshieFinalReliz, man chroot, it's a simple man page |
| 22:32.18 | koshieFinalReliz | poisonbit, I've read it. And it's devilishly simple, where is the trap ? :P |
| 22:32.23 | billybigrigger_ | and also using a 3.5mm jack to L/R rca adaptor for my audio in on my tv |
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| 22:32.46 | poisonbit | koshieFinalReliz, the "Debian Reference Guide" has some chapter about chroots, but maybe a bit outdated |
| 22:32.57 | billybigrigger_ | so i need to disable the hdmi audio stream, i know this setup works fine in win7 so im just looking for a nix alternative...any answers? |
| 22:33.10 | koshieFinalReliz | poisonbit, I will read that, thanks you. |
| 22:33.17 | poisonbit | koshieFinalReliz, there is no trap, you do not "chdir into and run cmd", you "chroot dir cmd" |
| 22:33.37 | jelly-home | itsatrap |
| 22:33.52 | poisonbit | if you want a shell, delete cmd, or put /bin/bash as cmd |
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| 22:34.01 | koshieFinalReliz | Like when I want to chroot from a live CD but with the /squeeze-chroot repertory ? |
| 22:34.11 | poisonbit | directory |
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| 22:34.13 | poisonbit | yes :) |
| 22:34.19 | koshieFinalReliz | Sorry for my english :) |
| 22:34.27 | tux0 | billybigrigger_ alsamixer/amixer ? there is a fairly extensive README that comes with the nvidia drivers ... |
| 22:34.35 | koshieFinalReliz | So I chroot this directory, like I said, devilishly simple. |
| 22:34.56 | koshieFinalReliz | But I will read more about that, I don't want to hurts my server. |
| 22:34.58 | billybigrigger_ | tux0, ok, thanks for that info, now are you telling me it MIGHT be in the extensive readme, or your just taking a shot in the dark? :P |
| 22:35.04 | koshieFinalReliz | Thanks again. |
| 22:35.10 | billybigrigger_ | tux0, alsamixer was no helpo |
| 22:35.41 | poisonbit | koshieFinalReliz, main issue about chroots is that some programs needs network resolution, /dev(ices), /proc(fs) etc... the debian reference explains it better than me |
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| 22:37.31 | poisonbit | billybigrigger_, the "thing" that can change about "drivers" is "param: " lines of "modinfo drivername" |
| 22:37.46 | poisonbit | lsmod to see loaded "drivers" |
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| 22:40.28 | koshieFinalReliz | If I've understand I need to type : chroot OPTION NEWROOT (and in my example if I just want with defaut option I don't need to use this) so chroot /squeeze-chroot in a shell and I will use my baby Debian and I can't, from this aera, do anything on the host. |
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| 22:41.59 | poisonbit | yes, but you may prefer to use chroot /squeeze-chroot /bin/bash -l |
| 22:42.20 | poisonbit | to get bash and not sh, bash completion, tab tab, etc... |
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| 22:42.32 | koshieFinalReliz | Oh I see |
| 22:42.48 | koshieFinalReliz | Okay, thanks again, I've been confused :p |
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| 22:44.12 | poisonbit | have fun |
| 22:44.18 | koshieFinalReliz | \ð/ |
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| 22:45.04 | poisonbit | http://wiki.debian.org/chroot |
| 22:45.37 | poisonbit | If you use that examples, be sure to understand that -o bind mounts will use your real files, so care about rm, etc |
| 22:45.52 | koshieFinalReliz | :o |
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| 22:46.13 | micols | what are the requirements to get your packages into debian stable repos ? , if your program segfaults on several occasions but still is useful will it then be allowed , or only in sid?:) |
| 22:46.20 | koshieFinalReliz | I want a chroot to run some sensible service, like CVS, Subversion. Some people say that can be dangerous to run them on the «real» system. |
| 22:46.29 | koshieFinalReliz | So I don't want to share file. |
| 22:46.44 | koshieFinalReliz | I want a jail for their service and have more security on my server. |
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| 22:47.07 | koshieFinalReliz | -their +these |
| 22:47.15 | poisonbit | well done, a jail and an unprivileged user into the jail |
| 22:48.14 | koshieFinalReliz | I think I need root for this. So not an only unprivileged user, the both :) |
| 22:48.22 | koshieFinalReliz | But I will see with my documentation. |
| 22:48.39 | poisonbit | micols, n.f.i. maybe on irc.debian.org.... why do not try? package it, upload it, file a bug about seg faults, ask for help to people who may be interested... |
| 22:48.51 | koshieFinalReliz | Thansk, you're very helpful poisonbit |
| 22:49.01 | poisonbit | np |
| 22:49.19 | poisonbit | you shouldn't trut unkonwn people on irc :) |
| 22:49.22 | poisonbit | trust |
| 22:49.28 | micols | ah, thought their official chan was on oftc, there are lots of people too |
| 22:49.28 | poisonbit | unknown |
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| 22:49.46 | poisonbit | micols, #mentors is a good chanels for these questions |
| 22:49.49 | n0sq | wishes he could decide which laptop to buy - you never know what you're getting until you got it |
| 22:50.05 | poisonbit | hehe |
| 22:50.27 | micols | I just had to solder my laptop cpu fan to usb, that fan controller was driving me nuts on my fujitsu lifebook |
| 22:50.34 | koshieFinalReliz | poisonbit, I'm trusting you because I've some base, I'm not a newbie but not an expert ;). Some bad people made me do some disgutings command to destroy my system, now I'm cautious. |
| 22:50.36 | micols | throttling from 100% to 0% every 20seconds |
| 22:51.03 | zapadlo | n0sq I spent best part of the year looking for a laptop, and then found one on eBay on a whim, bought it 40 minutes later. |
| 22:51.09 | micols | the downside is that the fan runs in suspend mode :-) , but it is detected fine in the bios and is silent now |
| 22:51.35 | poisonbit | n0sq, eeepc 1001px is a squeeze compatible netbook, with some module options on boot |
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| 22:52.33 | poisonbit | and well, thinpad t42, but you may need ebay for that |
| 22:52.36 | micols | I got an eee1000h , it ran squeeze by pressing enter (with lvm2 and encrypted home) |
| 22:52.38 | poisonbit | thinkpad |
| 22:52.44 | micols | but one of the kernels failed booting after updating kernel via apt |
| 22:53.16 | micols | actually, it installed over tftp (net install), was really nice (as it didn't have cdrom drive) |
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| 22:53.33 | poisonbit | funtastic |
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| 22:54.47 | micols | if you buy a laptop, get one with 3g built in |
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| 22:55.15 | micols | that is the reason I am selling my eee1000h again (as well as the keys break easily off the keyboard) and screen resolution is too small to surf |
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| 22:56.50 | micols | thinkpad is probably the most durable you can get, but watch out for battery life if you buy used (many only hold 10-20minutes battery :) |
| 22:57.08 | micols | they work decent with debian |
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| 23:02.08 | hotwings | is there _still_ no xine-lib-1.2 debian package available? |
| 23:03.00 | poisonbit | ,versions xine-lib |
| 23:03.01 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'xine-lib' was found in i386. |
| 23:03.06 | poisonbit | ,versions xine-lib-1.2 |
| 23:03.07 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'xine-lib-1.2' was found in i386. |
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| 23:03.11 | poisonbit | ,versions xine-lib-1.1 |
| 23:03.12 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'xine-lib-1.1' was found in i386. |
| 23:03.14 | poisonbit | mmm |
| 23:03.17 | poisonbit | xD |
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| 23:03.57 | tux0 | ,versions libxine1 |
| 23:03.58 | judd | Package libxine1 on i386 -- lenny: 1.1.14-6; squeeze: 1.1.19-2; sid: 1.1.19-3; wheezy: 1.1.19-3 |
| 23:04.10 | hotwings | ,versions libxine2 |
| 23:04.11 | judd | Package libxine2 on i386 -- experimental: 1.1.90hg+20100720+609066b321de-1 |
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| 23:04.32 | hotwings | uhh....lame |
| 23:04.43 | cillo564 | what distros are based in debian stable , i know mepis |
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| 23:05.18 | hotwings | as common as vdpau is now, you'd think the xine deb maintainers would have the sense to actually compile a new package... |
| 23:05.36 | DeM0nFiRe | Hello, I am looking for help compiling a custom kernel. I don't want to do it the kpkg way, because I can't really make a boot of the original kernel for safety, so I want to have both kernels in /boot and pick which one to use from GRUB |
| 23:05.56 | themill | hotwings: where exactly does one get this package from? (given that it's not on the xine home page) |
| 23:06.09 | poisonbit | cillo564, maybe you're better reading it on debian.org, the debian wiki or wikipedia, than rely on our memory |
| 23:06.29 | sybariten | hey, anyone know a good curses based ftp client? |
| 23:06.32 | DeM0nFiRe | I downloaded the linux source, did make config then make then make install and I get cannot load /lib/module/2.6.32/modules.dep |
| 23:06.45 | an0 | How can I be sure a particular sun-java6-jre is being used for processes that require a jre to be installed? |
| 23:06.45 | an0 | I |
| 23:06.50 | blackshirt | DeM0nFiRe: you can look it at your sources' README or Howto |
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| 23:07.08 | themill | an0: use update-java-alternatives to select the sun jre |
| 23:07.09 | hotwings | that old outdated debian package apparently is available in experimental.. but if you mean where do you get the xine source from, its mercurial home: hg clone http://hg.debian.org/hg/xine-lib/xine-lib-1.2 |
| 23:08.28 | tux0 | sybariten no, however lftp is nice |
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| 23:08.46 | themill | hotwings: so somehow it's "lame" that something that the developers are not even prepared to turn into a tarball and release is not in debian. |
| 23:09.23 | koshieFinalReliz | poisonbit, in your link (http://wiki.debian.org/chroot), /tmp/custom/debian-live/chroot/ is the repertory of the chroot ? In my case /squeeze-chroot. |
| 23:09.23 | tux0 | sybariten possibly ncftp ... however lftp is probably nicer :) |
| 23:09.48 | an0 | themill: i ran 'update-java-alternatives -s java-6-jre' and it said 'error: no alternatives' for everything in the list. |
| 23:10.00 | poisonbit | koshieFinalReliz, yes, that is |
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| 23:10.05 | koshieFinalReliz | And with the bind option I will have like a link between the /sys of the host and the /sys of the chroot ? |
| 23:10.14 | poisonbit | sybariten, mc can make 2 panel ftp, sftp, etc |
| 23:10.27 | koshieFinalReliz | When I'm modifing one, the other change too. |
| 23:10.35 | themill | an0: that's not the right name for the jre though; use --list to list them |
| 23:10.36 | hotwings | themill - first of all none of the xine devs are debian package maintainers. secondly, i find it more than reasonable that a person who elects themself to be a package maintainer, actually perform the task. |
| 23:10.37 | koshieFinalReliz | changes* |
| 23:10.45 | tux0 | sybariten a curses based file manager such as midnight commander `mc' may support ftp not sure though ... |
| 23:10.58 | themill | hotwings: until there is a tarball, there isn't really a task. |
| 23:11.07 | an0 | themill: i did, maybe i used the wrong info to get the name. one sec. |
| 23:11.11 | poisonbit | koshieFinalReliz, that is, be careful :) |
| 23:11.29 | themill | hotwings: maintainers occasionally package snapshots to make their later work easier or to help test out integration with other packages. |
| 23:11.34 | koshieFinalReliz | Hm, you're scary me :). I need to know if it's dangerous in my context. |
| 23:11.48 | an0 | themill: java-6-sun -- sorry, i did it right, just typed it wrong here. |
| 23:12.06 | koshieFinalReliz | I'm doing a chroot for improve the security, and if I'm introduce a risk... |
| 23:12.16 | hotwings | themill - right... a tarball... because, you know, using hg clone is such a momumental task, ......... |
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| 23:13.00 | sybariten | tux0: poisonbit : yeah, mc does it... i might go for that then. |
| 23:13.00 | hotwings | sounds like someone whining that their new harddrive came in a antistatic bag instead of a retail box |
| 23:13.05 | themill | hotwings: if a developer is not prepared to tag it and release it and provide something that is cryptographically verifiable, then they obviously don't believe their work is ready for people to use. |
| 23:13.28 | poisonbit | sybariten, mc -b maybe better for your eyes |
| 23:13.32 | sybariten | theres this mythical client called Pftpfxp-mew but it doesnt really compile very well on my system |
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| 23:13.58 | themill | hotwings: debian *must* have a source tarball at some stage. It's qute unusual for a debian maintainer to make the tarball if the developers don't |
| 23:14.18 | sybariten | poisonbit: whoa... that was worse! |
| 23:14.29 | poisonbit | :P |
| 23:14.38 | hotwings | themill - i guess we'll just ignore the fact that a tarball has never been provided, yet they still managed to get packages together... right? |
| 23:15.03 | themill | hotwings: yes, keep ignoring everything I say about maintainers packaging snapshots occasionally. |
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| 23:15.11 | nvictor | please help :( |
| 23:15.12 | sybariten | The real question is why i didnt get this nice ansi graphics.... should i start looking at my settings at the ssh machine, or should i look at my putty settingds |
| 23:15.37 | themill | hotwings: you also seem to have missed the bit where these are volunteers. Perhaps you'd like to join the debain multimedia team and submit patches to the packaging and help out with the work? |
| 23:15.47 | nvictor | debian can't see my wireless interface... |
| 23:15.55 | nvictor | or can't get it to work |
| 23:16.13 | hotwings | themill - considering its been over a year since the last time that happened and there has been scores of bugfixes and new support... i would expect common sense to kick in that maybe its time to do it again... but expecting common sense from others usually leads to disappointment |
| 23:16.29 | themill | hotwings: "over a year" meaning 3 months. |
| 23:16.55 | hotwings | i think you need to look up the length of a year ... |
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| 23:17.02 | themill | ,recent libxine2 |
| 23:17.03 | judd | Sorry, there is no record of source package 'libxine2'. |
| 23:17.04 | ansgar | hotwings: libxine2 | 1.1.90hg+20110516+847d4f89a4fb-1 | experimental | amd64 |
| 23:17.10 | themill | bah |
| 23:17.14 | hotwings | but sure, maintaining xine debian packages is simple.. |
| 23:17.20 | themill | sure. real simple... |
| 23:17.43 | hotwings | finally we both agree on something.. |
| 23:17.45 | themill | because it's not a library that requires every single thing built against it to be rebuilt to use the new library on a regular basis at all. |
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| 23:18.24 | hotwings | youre correct... it is not |
| 23:18.40 | hotwings | 2/2 now |
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| 23:19.31 | themill | hotwings: when you feel like making a positive contribution, please get involved. If you want continue to rant and whine in complete ignorance, please move over to /dev/null where you'll find more people who care |
| 23:19.38 | abrotman | themill: your sarcasm was wasted |
| 23:19.44 | an0 | themill: when i run 'java -version' it says 1.6.0_18, then on the line underneath it says OpenJDK |
| 23:20.08 | themill | an0: can you please pastebin the entire output of the update-java-alternatives command you gave? |
| 23:20.12 | an0 | I want java-6-sun, not the openjdk, if that makes sense |
| 23:20.15 | an0 | yes one sec |
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| 23:20.49 | hotwings | themill - complete ignorance huh? youre a funny guy/girl. |
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| 23:21.08 | themill | hotwings: and I'm also bored with this discussion as it's going nowhere. |
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| 23:21.34 | an0 | themill: http://pastebin.com/LdPAH76c |
| 23:22.20 | themill | an0: but what did "update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun" do? |
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| 23:22.55 | an0 | one sec |
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| 23:23.38 | zalg | hi, anyone worked with ibm bladecenters >H in the past? :) |
| 23:23.39 | an0 | http://pastebin.com/mdSK77vf |
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| 23:24.53 | abrotman | zalg: related to Debian how? |
| 23:25.44 | zalg | abrotman, well, in any way really |
| 23:25.48 | jason404 | is /var/lib/foo/ a good place to put an .htpasswd file for http authentication? |
| 23:26.05 | jason404 | or what is a good place for it? |
| 23:26.32 | abrotman | zalg: meaning this channel is for Debian support .. how is your question related to Debian? |
| 23:26.44 | themill | an0: I know that's a lot of messages there, but that's ok because you have the jre not the jdk installed. Does "java" now do the right thing for you? |
| 23:27.07 | zalg | well for once, has anyone has any experience running debian on such servers would be related to Debian, but if this is not the place, I can leave no worry |
| 23:27.36 | zalg | which I will, thank you. |
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| 23:27.55 | an0 | themill: how do I tell? the program im running works either way, but i want to know it's using the official sun jre. |
| 23:28.57 | themill | an0: what does "java -version" say now? |
| 23:29.24 | an0 | java se runtime environment =) |
| 23:29.50 | an0 | so should I restart my java apps? |
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| 23:30.34 | themill | that should be sufficient |
| 23:30.40 | an0 | thank you! |
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| 23:39.03 | jason404 | is this true? ... |
| 23:39.05 | jason404 | n.b. Do not switch back and forth between different package managers. If you use apt to install some software, and then try aptitude, it will uninstall all the packages you installed using apt. Choose one package manager and stick with it! |
| 23:39.08 | jason404 | ^^^^ |
| 23:39.31 | jason404 | if it is, I have made a real mess of my system |
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| 23:39.42 | themill | jason404: that was sort of true back in 2002 (and not really true even then) |
| 23:40.00 | jason404 | themill: ah okay, that's a relief |
| 23:40.23 | jason404 | themill: what about mixing dpkg and apt-get and aptitude? |
| 23:41.10 | themill | jason404: apt-get and aptitude install the packages using dpkg. You shouldn't be using dpkg itself on random .debs, really. |
| 23:42.02 | jason404 | themill: most of the time I have used dpkg has been on dpkg's (the bot) advice |
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| 23:43.08 | jason404 | and i think I have only really used commands which don't change anything, like dpkg -L foo |
| 23:43.23 | jason404 | ..come to think of it |
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