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| 00:07.09 | joe6 | any good calculator apps? I do not like the stock applet that comes with gnome.. |
| 00:07.24 | joe6 | i meant the "stock calculator" app. |
| 00:07.40 | joe6 | basically, loooking for a good calculator application. |
| 00:07.46 | joe6 | or, applet. |
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| 00:11.02 | Gump | hey #debian, what's a good mixer for OSS? |
| 00:11.15 | abrotman | aumix |
| 00:11.23 | abrotman | joe6: apt-cache search calculator |
| 00:11.28 | Gump | ty |
| 00:11.50 | joe6 | abrotman, thanks |
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| 00:12.52 | joe6 | any recommendations? |
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| 00:13.42 | Gump | abrotman, aumix returns "aumix: no device found: Success" |
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| 00:17.13 | secretary_linux | joe6: bc :) |
| 00:19.00 | abrotman | Gump: do yo uhave the oss modules loaded? |
| 00:19.36 | Gump | yes. ossmix works, and sound is working through oss |
| 00:19.57 | Gump | i was reading that aumix only works with ossv3, so that's probably it |
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| 00:22.32 | rajkosto | how do i bind rpc.statd to only one ip ? |
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| 00:29.04 | dokma | what permission do you guys have on /home ??? I have root:users drwxrwsr-x on my server and root:staff drwxrwsr-x on my desktop. Is there any significant difference between the two? |
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| 00:32.02 | oldirty | dokma, it's really two ways of saying the same thing |
| 00:32.38 | dokma | oldirty: thanks... I'm having some issues setting my chroot in my /home/jail folder |
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| 00:32.46 | dokma | while in /var/lib/jail it works |
| 00:32.55 | dokma | could it be the sticky bit? |
| 00:33.01 | oldirty | dokma, the group should have all the users with a homedir but /home doesn't really need group write permissions |
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| 00:33.07 | oldirty | my /home is root:root 755 |
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| 00:33.09 | u6657u | [** | NOTICE | **] ON JUNE 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU! [** | NOTICE | **] u6657u taglass gratidude chipotle duxklr willj oldirty Ex-Opesa extor dvs Ahadiel mns Myztik joe6 binbrain dekar_ c3l secretary_linux p0g0 Westie derchris dv |
| 00:33.09 | u6657u | [** | NOTICE | **] ON JUNE 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU! [** | NOTICE | **] slon alphur jeremym peregrinator_six cwheeler project2501a rgr Gump paranoidphreak fredden biscraft kelsoo theoden Phil4 kadath arnestig tPl0ch zezikaro mjmt |
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| 00:33.09 | u6657u | [** | NOTICE | **] ON JUNE 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU! [** | NOTICE | **] thunderrd alyosha Meise bgy dArK_IcE Eryn_1983_FL kaolbrec kishy Lanz rickbol Kevin` hso3 adrenlinerush G_O_D kassah tensorpudding ineiros vagn mischief bier |
| 00:33.27 | Westie | that sounds incredibly official.sk |
| 00:33.28 | mischief | noob |
| 00:34.19 | dokma | what could cause setgid: Operation not permitted ?? |
| 00:34.34 | dokma | I just can't get this chroot jail to pass : su - anon |
| 00:34.43 | dokma | it complains on the setgid |
| 00:34.52 | dokma | while the exact same setup works in /var/lib/jail |
| 00:35.11 | dokma | the only diff is that /home has a sticky bit set |
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| 00:36.12 | oldirty-away | can you do an 'su - anon' without jail? |
| 00:36.23 | oldirty-away | as in, does anon have a valid shell and home directory? |
| 00:36.45 | dokma | let's see |
| 00:36.59 | dokma | nope |
| 00:37.04 | dokma | so that's the issue |
| 00:37.19 | macrobat | what's the purpose of jail? |
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| 00:38.04 | dokma | to allow anonymous scp to the server |
| 00:38.12 | dokma | I don't want to put ftp up for that |
| 00:38.57 | abrotman | it's anonymous .. why would you care? |
| 00:39.42 | dokma | one less service to think about |
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| 00:39.59 | dokma | one less whole to break through |
| 00:40.36 | abrotman | it's anonymous ... |
| 00:40.42 | abrotman | 'hole' |
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| 00:41.41 | dokma | abrotman: this is not publicly available login just for the customer to be able to upload some files quickly |
| 00:41.48 | dokma | and then the password is changed |
| 00:42.03 | abrotman | dokma: doesn't sound very anonymous |
| 00:42.06 | dokma | I just don't want him to be able to browse anywhere outside the home |
| 00:42.16 | dokma | yeah... it is not |
| 00:42.31 | dokma | it's just one account where everyone will be uploading |
| 00:42.37 | dokma | so I nick named it anonymous |
| 00:43.04 | dokma | but I can't fix this : setgid: Operation not permitted |
| 00:44.19 | dokma | I have anon:x:1005:1005:/home/jail/home/anon:/bin/chroot-shell in /etc/passwd |
| 00:44.32 | dokma | and anon:x:1005: in /etc/group |
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| 00:45.12 | dokma | abrotman: got any idea on where I messed it up? |
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| 00:48.43 | scampbell | dokma: I thought there was something about needing to put a /./ in the home directory to indicate where the jail was... been quite a while since I did a jailed ssh/scp |
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| 00:53.03 | dokma | scampbell: the thing that is getting on my nervers is that I managed to do it in /var/lib/jail with a different user |
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| 00:53.30 | dokma | and now this thing is messing it up... and it seems to be something with the groups somewhere |
| 00:53.53 | scampbell | dokma: I think http://www.howtoforge.com/chroot_ssh_sftp_debian_etch this was a pretty good, again, been a while since I did it. |
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| 00:54.38 | dokma | scampbell: that's the one I used |
| 00:54.42 | dokma | the second method |
| 00:54.51 | dokma | and the script didn't setup the permissions right |
| 00:55.06 | dokma | so I did find . -exec ls -ald {} \; > nodes |
| 00:55.06 | ion- | apt sources question.... |
| 00:55.17 | ion- | can i restrict a repo to only look at specific packages? |
| 00:55.23 | dokma | then I read all the permission into that file and copied permissions into the jail folder |
| 00:55.33 | dokma | and then it started working for /var/lib/jail |
| 00:55.45 | dokma | but the one I'm trying to setup in /home/jail is failing |
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| 00:56.06 | ion- | i only want a specific package from a different repo and i dont want it to update other packages from that repo |
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| 00:58.48 | scampbell | ion: you can get the source for the package but, if it has dependencies, you really can't install it and avoid them. |
| 01:00.05 | scampbell | dokma: for what little it's worth, that's why I like doing the 'manual' methods better. other folks scripts leave me wondering what just happened :) |
| 01:00.06 | ion- | right now im compiling from src, but i dont want to do that for every deploy |
| 01:00.18 | stew | ion-: "/msg dpkg pinning", but you can get yourself into trouble there, you might want: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 01:00.23 | ion- | and i dont want to host my own packages |
| 01:00.31 | stew | ion-: or tell us exactly what you are trying to do |
| 01:00.39 | ion- | stew: ok |
| 01:00.57 | dokma | scampbell: I just don't know what is needed in a chroot environ for a shell to work |
| 01:00.58 | stew | you wouldn't want to use pinning to mix stable with testing/unstable, for instance |
| 01:01.03 | dokma | especially not the libs |
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| 01:01.23 | scampbell | dokma: yep, do it the first 1 on the page and you get to learn all that. |
| 01:01.39 | ion- | ok i guess i should start by asking if i can install debian packages on ubuntu |
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| 01:02.42 | stew | ion-: ask #ubuntu, not here |
| 01:03.08 | scampbell | ion: ubuntu is a debian derivitive, it uses .deb files. However... this is gonna lead back to dependencies. |
| 01:03.27 | ion- | its only one package and i already have the dependencies installed |
| 01:03.49 | scampbell | dpkg --install whatever.deb should do the trick then. |
| 01:03.50 | dpkg | scampbell: bugger all, i dunno |
| 01:04.25 | macrobat_ | just because something uses debs, doesn't mean things won't break |
| 01:04.26 | scampbell | dpkg: I'm gonna go try one here a few minutes just to refresh my memory. |
| 01:04.26 | dpkg | scampbell: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
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| 01:04.45 | ion- | so the situation is: i am deploying ubuntu-lucid servers and i need the nodejs package. rather than compile it every time or host my own binaries, i was hoping i could add a debian repo... but i dont want other packages to be updated from the debian repo. |
| 01:05.20 | scampbell | ion: no, not really, and, yes, it is because all of the listed dependencies. |
| 01:05.28 | stew | ion-: wrong channel, you should be asking #ubuntu |
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| 01:06.05 | ion- | stew: pretend im talking about different debian versions then. the question it mostly about the software which both debian and ubuntu use |
| 01:06.15 | rhenani | Hello Guys I have a question |
| 01:06.24 | rhenani | I have a question |
| 01:06.25 | stew | ion-: ok, but you should ask in #ubuntu, you are in the wrong channel |
| 01:06.42 | ion- | stew: also nobody responded in #ubuntu |
| 01:06.57 | rhenani | I Have a virtual machine in vmware work station, i want to install there debian 6.0.1 32 bits squeze.. |
| 01:07.04 | stew | ion-: try again in a while, or try a mailinglist, or something like ask.ubuntu.com |
| 01:07.16 | rhenani | My virtual machine has two partitions 20GB each |
| 01:07.22 | rhenani | In one of those i have windows 7 |
| 01:07.31 | rhenani | And in the empty one i want to isntall debian |
| 01:07.33 | ion- | thanks everyone for the help btw |
| 01:07.42 | rhenani | My question is, will i be able to install both?? |
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| 01:07.49 | scampbell | ion: really, I have answered your question. No, you cannot configure another repo from a foreign distribution to install one and only one pkg. |
| 01:08.13 | scampbell | ion: if you'd like to cron and copy or something you can do that. |
| 01:08.23 | stew | he could, but its probably a bad idea |
| 01:08.30 | scampbell | agreed, bad idea. |
| 01:08.49 | scampbell | it's not impossible. But no. |
| 01:08.55 | ion- | ill just install it from source each time. it just takes a while longer to deploy.. |
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| 01:09.46 | stew | rhenani: i don't see why not |
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| 01:10.09 | balleyne | is there a way to prevent a certain /etc/init.d/ service from starting by default at startup? |
| 01:10.15 | rhenani | stew: Other question, will I be able that when the machine boot what operating system run?? |
| 01:10.47 | Arrowmaster | balleyne: see if the service has a file in /etc/default that controls if it starts or not |
| 01:11.07 | balleyne | Arrowmaster: ok, thanks |
| 01:11.20 | stew | balleyne: if not, search for the word "disable" in the update-rc.d manpage |
| 01:11.59 | stew | rhenani: i'd think so, but without knowing more details about your virtual machine, i'm not sure |
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| 01:12.25 | balleyne | stew: thanks |
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| 01:43.49 | oldirty-away | dokma did you get your chroot problem going? |
| 01:43.56 | dokma | yes |
| 01:44.00 | dokma | just permissions |
| 01:44.06 | oldirty-away | indeed :) |
| 01:44.23 | oldirty | my next guess was that '/bin/chroot-shell' was not in /etc/shells |
| 01:44.28 | dokma | I can't even make it so that the user cannot get out of home |
| 01:44.49 | dokma | it wasn't |
| 01:45.05 | dokma | I don't know the purpose of that file either |
| 01:45.07 | oldirty | wanna whisper me the credentials and i'll have a look? |
| 01:45.09 | dokma | gotta google it |
| 01:45.27 | dokma | my home is now drwxrwxr-x |
| 01:45.38 | dokma | that's the one in jail obviously |
| 01:45.45 | dokma | and the jailed user can do cd .. from ~ |
| 01:45.53 | dokma | and can list the contents |
| 01:46.05 | oldirty | can you link me the howto you followed? might not need to login. |
| 01:46.17 | dokma | but if I do drwxrwxr-- on home in jail |
| 01:46.25 | dokma | then su - anonymous does not work |
| 01:46.30 | dokma | sure |
| 01:46.59 | dokma | oldirty: the thing is that it's just a script that does a bunch of copying and setting things up |
| 01:47.07 | oldirty | it sounds like anonymous might not be in the users group ( or staff, don't remember which box was which ) |
| 01:47.08 | dokma | but does not set proper permissions obviously |
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| 01:47.27 | dokma | you're right... it's not |
| 01:47.44 | oldirty | i'm actually running xubuntu here at the house, but i can have a debian machine up for testing shortly. |
| 01:47.47 | dokma | should it be in that group in the jail or outside or both? |
| 01:47.52 | oldirty | you're on squeeze? |
| 01:47.55 | dokma | yes |
| 01:47.59 | oldirty | outside |
| 01:48.07 | dokma | let me try and add anonymous to the group |
| 01:48.11 | oldirty | k |
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| 01:50.42 | cookiemon5ter | if i install debian on a netbook without the internet what will i need to connect when i am finished |
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| 01:51.32 | dvs | cookiemon5ter: You don't have to connect during the installation. |
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| 01:52.31 | cookiemon5ter | do i just use wireless tools and dhclient when i reboot into the new system ? |
| 01:52.44 | cookiemon5ter | i never used dhclient before |
| 01:53.13 | dvs | cookiemon5ter: It depends how the wireless network is encrypted |
| 01:53.28 | cookiemon5ter | i will connect to one that isn't |
| 01:53.44 | dvs | then wireless tools should be enough |
| 01:54.08 | cookiemon5ter | crap |
| 01:54.24 | cookiemon5ter | i haven't used wireless tools since i started usiing wicd |
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| 01:59.03 | cookiemon5ter | dvs: what would you use to provide ip to the interface once you choose essid |
| 01:59.16 | oldirty | ifconfig |
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| 02:02.13 | rhenani | stew: Are you theer still sorry I was so busy that could not see last thing you said |
| 02:02.14 | cookiemon5ter | man i wish i never put ubuntu on this D: |
| 02:03.06 | rhenani | stew: My question was if I install both will i be able when the machine boot chose what operating system run (Debian or windows 7)? |
| 02:04.04 | dvs | cookiemon5ter: If you can set the IP address manually, then you don't need dhclient |
| 02:04.59 | cookiemon5ter | dvs: so what do i do `ifconfig wlan0 ip` ? |
| 02:05.39 | dvs | cookiemon5ter: I'd configure the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 02:05.48 | dvs | or is this during the install? |
| 02:06.39 | cookiemon5ter | after install |
| 02:06.42 | oldirty | cookiemon5ter, ifconfig wlan0 $ip/$netmask |
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| 02:06.57 | cookiemon5ter | i haven't even began installation yet just getting some info |
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| 02:07.22 | cookiemon5ter | i think i will just use`dhclient wlan0` |
| 02:07.31 | oldirty | you might be surprised... ubuntu is REALLY easy to configure for wireless |
| 02:07.34 | rhenani | cookiemon5ter: To get an IP? |
| 02:07.43 | cookiemon5ter | rhenani: yeah |
| 02:07.51 | rhenani | cookiemon5ter: Yeah that's ok |
| 02:07.57 | cookiemon5ter | oldirty: but ubuntu has other issues |
| 02:08.36 | rhenani | cookiemon5ter: That will give you an IP, then you should have internet |
| 02:09.14 | oldirty | cookiemon5ter, like? |
| 02:09.42 | cookiemon5ter | random crashes, bloated with useless software |
| 02:09.51 | oldirty | lol? |
| 02:09.53 | karlpinc | rhenani: ? If you install both os's properly then sure, when you boot you can choose one or the other. Of course you can always do it wrong and have the install of the second os completely overwrite the disk and erase the first. (Which is why people install Linux second.) |
| 02:09.56 | cookiemon5ter | never had this issue with gentoo |
| 02:10.30 | oldirty | cookiemon5ter, random crashes sound like a hardware thing |
| 02:10.53 | cookiemon5ter | video problem |
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| 02:11.11 | rhenani | karlpinc: Oh ok thank you |
| 02:11.13 | karlpinc | oldirty: Likely, but ubuntu is known to be less stable than debian stable. ( |
| 02:11.19 | rhenani | karlpinc: I'll tray |
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| 02:11.37 | rhenani | karlpinc: THta's true |
| 02:11.37 | cookiemon5ter | i'd like to play with debian a bit more anyways |
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| 02:11.48 | oldirty | karlpinc, without a doubt, but the tradeoff between functionality and stability is a thin line... |
| 02:12.09 | karlpinc | !overview |
| 02:12.09 | dpkg | Debian stable does not always include all the software people need or want so there is much official, semi-official, and non-official software available for stable. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware . Ask me about <security>, <installer firmware>, <backports>, <squeeze-updates>, <multimedia>, <non-free>, <contrib>, <emdebian>, <debian live>. See also <grounding>, <social contract>. |
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| 02:12.14 | karlpinc | cookiemon5ter: ^^ since you're new. |
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| 02:13.02 | cookiemon5ter | i just need mplayer irssi and chromium and i will be happy =) |
| 02:13.02 | taglass | once you start bolting all of that on you sort of lose the stability advantage though eh? |
| 02:13.13 | oldirty | karlpinc, installing packages from a non-official repo is arguably just as bad for stability? |
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| 02:13.25 | oldirty | ha, exactly. |
| 02:13.29 | karlpinc | taglass: Sure. Depends on how much you add and where it comes from. |
| 02:13.34 | rhenani | cookiemon5ter: apt-get install chromium-browser |
| 02:13.40 | karlpinc | taglass: Backports for instance is pretty safe. |
| 02:13.45 | karlpinc | s/pretty/very/ |
| 02:14.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | backports is (now) an official repo |
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| 02:15.09 | karlpinc | Kamping_Kaiser: But even backports does not get security updates from the security team. You have to rely on the backports group. |
| 02:15.48 | oldirty | indeed, backports. |
| 02:15.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | karlpinc: yup. with you ther |
| 02:15.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | e |
| 02:15.52 | cookiemon5ter | crap now my usb is corrupt >.< |
| 02:16.14 | oldirty | cookiemon5ter, sounds like a RAM problem I had a few months ago |
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| 02:16.30 | rhenani | cookiemon5ter: ?? |
| 02:16.41 | karlpinc | Point being, debian lets you decide to make these tradeoffs yourself. This is what makes Debian "harder", because you have to take action to get the funky stuff other distros decide to make available by default. Or that's my take anyway. |
| 02:16.59 | cookiemon5ter | rhenani: issue with rtorrent bad chunks |
| 02:17.10 | cookiemon5ter | guess i will be holding this off til wednesday |
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| 02:18.19 | oldirty | karlpinc, i wouldn't have agreed pre-squeeze, but i do now. |
| 02:19.02 | smugglerinc | I think it would mostly depend on what you mean by funky stuff. |
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| 02:23.12 | cookiemon5ter | thanks for the help everyone =) |
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| 02:25.53 | DammitJim | hey guys |
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| 02:27.25 | smugglerinc | Allo |
| 02:27.50 | oldirty | howdy! |
| 02:28.56 | DammitJim | man, this is weird |
| 02:29.08 | oldirty | what happened? |
| 02:29.22 | DammitJim | I have added an application to my iBar through clicking on the left of the title bar on my app... in this case urxvt |
| 02:29.48 | DammitJim | but the icon used in my iBar is super low resolution... and when I try to change it, it doesn't stick (reverts back to the old one) |
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| 02:34.29 | DammitJim | or how do I add an application to my menus? |
| 02:34.36 | DammitJim | urxvt for some reason doesn't show up |
| 02:35.04 | DammitJim | I take that back... urxvt doesn't show up in the list of apps to add to iBar |
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| 02:48.56 | rhenani | Hello GUys |
| 02:49.07 | Corey | Hello rhenani. |
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| 02:49.21 | DammitJim | hi |
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| 02:50.28 | rhenani | I'm installing debian 6.0.1 32 bits squeze in one of my virtual machines in VMware work station |
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| 02:51.40 | rhenani | with graphical mode |
| 02:51.59 | rhenani | when i finish i just do apt-get install gnome and i'll have the graphical mode right? |
| 02:52.34 | Wyzard | This is interesting, aptitude is showing nearly all my installed packages under the "obsolete and locally-created packages" heading |
| 02:53.21 | somiaj | rhenani: that should pull in everything you need. |
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| 02:53.32 | rhenani | somiaj: gnome right? |
| 02:53.47 | somiaj | rhenani: that is one of your options, you don't need a full desktop enviroment to run xorg |
| 02:54.18 | rhenani | somiaj: Thats' true ;)! |
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| 02:54.24 | rhenani | somiaj: Thanks |
| 02:54.58 | somiaj | rhenani: if you want a tool to bring in groups of related packages, you can look at tasksel |
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| 02:56.17 | rhenani | somiaj: tasksel?? |
| 02:56.32 | rhenani | somiaj: Ok I'll find it out thanks.. |
| 02:56.34 | somiaj | rhenani: its an application you can install..apt-cache show tasksel |
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| 02:56.43 | rhenani | somiaj: Okz |
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| 03:49.57 | ooxi | hi is there a way to tell ifconfig to not wrap at 4 gib of traffic? i dont get why there is such a limit |
| 03:50.39 | oldirty | ooxi, could you provide some context? I've never seen that behavior before |
| 03:51.03 | ooxi | oldirty, sorry i'm talking about the rx/tx numbers |
| 03:51.08 | buhman | ooxi: are you talking about, yeah ^ |
| 03:51.09 | oldirty | ooxi, are you trying to monitor total ... exactly |
| 03:51.11 | guk | on 32bit systems ifconfig only shows like 4gb then cycles |
| 03:51.12 | ooxi | they only count up to 2^32 |
| 03:51.12 | oldirty | lol |
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| 03:51.25 | guk | is there a way to stop that ? |
| 03:51.34 | ooxi | but i have a 64 bit system |
| 03:51.39 | guk | oh yah |
| 03:51.52 | buhman | ooxi: I've had over a few thousand GiB in one session |
| 03:51.58 | buhman | ooxi: so I can't duplicate your behavior |
| 03:52.06 | ooxi | buhman, default config or did you change something? |
| 03:52.14 | buhman | ooxi: nothing at all changed |
| 03:52.31 | ooxi | hm i don't get it |
| 03:52.43 | ooxi | debian lenny? |
| 03:52.50 | buhman | wheezy |
| 03:53.01 | ooxi | oh ok |
| 03:53.18 | oldirty | does the counter in /proc/net/dev reset? |
| 03:53.25 | guk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.30 | guk | mine resets all the time |
| 03:53.32 | guk | ~ 4gbish |
| 03:53.39 | ooxi | could some bui tool reset it? i'm monitoring using gnome-system-monitor (but ifconfig shows the same numbers) |
| 03:54.10 | guk | I don't think so mine is a 32bit debian testing machine (headless) |
| 03:54.15 | ooxi | oldirty, yes /proc/net/dev shows the same numbers as ifconfig |
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| 03:54.29 | guk | ive never seen that number go over 4gb ... even on windows machines using the moo.dll sysinfo |
| 03:55.57 | wols_ | guk: run 64bit debian? |
| 03:56.07 | guk | no ... 32bit PIII |
| 03:56.08 | oldirty | I might consider trying a PAE kernel on the off chance ? |
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| 03:56.27 | guk | I never honestly looked into it I always took that as a fact of life lol |
| 03:56.27 | ooxi | what's a PAE kernel? |
| 03:56.32 | Driver | guk: look - RX bytes:252476514456 (235.1 GiB) TX bytes:1125734335703 (1.0 TiB) |
| 03:56.44 | guk | !! how does yours do that |
| 03:56.47 | Driver | this debian lenny but 64bit |
| 03:56.49 | guk | id love something like that |
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| 03:56.52 | guk | aah ... 64bit |
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| 03:56.55 | oldirty | physical address extension. it's for allowing 32 bit kernels to address memory over 4gb |
| 03:57.19 | ooxi | Driver, running 64bit lenny (but with gui) and constantly wrapping at 4gib |
| 03:57.19 | guk | I don't think the PAE will fix it |
| 03:57.27 | guk | I always thought it was some 32bit limit |
| 03:57.57 | oldirty | yeah, i know it's a long shot but i'm not finding much information on that behavior elsewhere ... |
| 03:58.48 | Driver | ooxi: RX bytes:38535417818 (35.8 GiB) TX bytes:3399314679 (3.1 GiB) |
| 03:59.00 | Driver | 64 bit with gui, but squexxe :) |
| 03:59.04 | ooxi | :-( |
| 03:59.08 | Driver | squezze* |
| 03:59.15 | guk | my machines been up for 145 days lol its done more then 3gb of data |
| 03:59.40 | guk | ah well :( I don't think it's happening tho |
| 03:59.45 | ooxi | maybe i'm just to supid. i'm going to download a file >> 4gib and watch the wrap |
| 03:59.54 | ooxi | *too |
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| 04:01.52 | oldirty | guk, similar discussion here: http://forums.theplanet.com/lofiversion/index.php/t77512.html |
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| 04:04.34 | ooxi | aah! the host does count over 4gib, but not the guest |
| 04:05.06 | oldirty | guk, even better: http://www.kbrandt.com/2009/07/debuging-a-script-that-parses-procnetdev.html |
| 04:05.16 | oldirty | alright, that's the height of my google-fu |
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| 04:07.02 | guk | haha |
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| 04:07.14 | guk | I think I looked that up way back and had no answer then and I kinda just forgot about it |
| 04:07.17 | guk | lol |
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| 04:12.41 | Driver | RX bytes:3656463217 (3.4 GiB) TX bytes:4268443350 (3.9 GiB) lenny 32bit. |
| 04:12.50 | Driver | Now I upload on it anything and look |
| 04:12.59 | ZykoticK9 | <X-Post from oftc> Does anyone have details regarding mozilla.debian.net failing during update for the last few days? I saw someone dent about it yesterday. |
| 04:14.15 | buhman | ZykoticK9: apparently it's down |
| 04:14.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | ZykoticK9: looks like its hosted on alioth (if my reading of the dns lookup is correct) |
| 04:15.07 | ZykoticK9 | i only use it for iceweasel 4 to be honest... so it's not the end of the world (and i've certainly disabled the source so it's no longer an issue) was just curious if anyone when anything. |
| 04:15.30 | ZykoticK9 | s/when/knew/ |
| 04:15.34 | buhman | ZykoticK9: it appears to be up now |
| 04:15.50 | ZykoticK9 | buhman, :) i'll try again. |
| 04:17.31 | ZykoticK9 | buhman, i'm still getting "failed to fetch"... I'll keep trying once a day until it returns ;) no iceweasel updates... |
| 04:18.21 | buhman | ZykoticK9: right, I misread my aptitude output |
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| 04:18.54 | ooxi | in the last couple of days i found tools i was /always/ searching for: pbzip2, pigz and pv |
| 04:19.15 | ooxi | speeding up compressing with included progress bar :) |
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| 04:26.22 | Efazati | i have debian and i have 3 monitor... how i can config 3 monitor with one vga card ? |
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| 04:28.13 | Efazati | also i find twinview only export 2 monitor |
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| 04:30.29 | Arrowmaster | are you sure your card supports 3 monitors? |
| 04:30.44 | Arrowmaster | most dont |
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| 04:33.58 | Driver | twinview support only 2 heads |
| 04:35.26 | Arrowmaster | which begs the question, does any nvidia card (not counting quatro or other super expensive cards) support more than 2 monitors |
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| 04:36.09 | Arrowmaster | the best ive ever been able to do with any consumer card on any os is 2 plus a tv cloning one of them |
| 04:36.46 | Efazati | i use hdmi and vga port |
| 04:36.59 | Efazati | now i set 3 seprated x Server |
| 04:37.15 | Efazati | how can run each x server ? |
| 04:37.37 | Driver | i dont know. but card with 2+ output exist. example zotac gts450 - its have 2 DVI-D, 1 HDMI and 1 displayport |
| 04:37.39 | Arrowmaster | you cant, you setup multiple screens inside one xserver |
| 04:37.53 | Driver | Efazati try xinerama |
| 04:38.02 | Driver | stop |
| 04:38.18 | Arrowmaster | hammer time? |
| 04:38.20 | Driver | you need ,ulti-head or multi-seat? |
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| 04:39.42 | un214 | I often run multiple X server |
| 04:40.18 | Efazati | Driver, no, i use only computer and i want work with terminal in 1st monitor, programing in second monitor and page viewing in third monitor |
| 04:40.32 | Efazati | un214, run with xinerama? |
| 04:40.38 | un214 | no |
| 04:40.51 | un214 | first X on Ctrl+Alt+F7, second on ctrl+Alt+F8, etc |
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| 04:41.47 | Efazati | un214, its ok but how set which monitor is wich c+a+ ? |
| 04:42.02 | un214 | only has one monitor |
| 04:42.48 | Dewi | Efazati: I don't think you can give X "half a graphics card" |
| 04:43.11 | Dewi | Efazati: run X across all your monitors and simply open a terminal on one of them |
| 04:43.38 | ooxi | does somebody know a tool which can perform sql queries directly on csv files (without explicitly importing the data) |
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| 04:43.51 | Efazati | Dewi, how say to x find all 3 monitor? with twin? its only 2 :( |
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| 04:44.08 | Dewi | Efazati: how many graphics cards? |
| 04:44.21 | austinium | does Debian 6 LXDE come with Synaptic installed by default? |
| 04:44.26 | Efazati | Dewi, only one |
| 04:45.02 | Dewi | Efazati: tried xinerama instead of twinview? |
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| 04:47.01 | Dewi | Efazati: what kind of card is it? |
| 04:47.10 | Dewi | Efazati: I'm not sure if any nvidia card really supports 3 at once |
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| 04:47.35 | Efazati | Dewi, nvidia 310m |
| 04:48.34 | Dewi | Efazati: that's a gpu. what chipset? |
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| 04:48.46 | Driver | Efazati: http://www.nvidia.com/object/feature_twinview.html _Dual_-Display |
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| 04:52.16 | Efazati | Dewi, my laptop is near http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-UL80J-BBK5.35305.0.html but with core i5 |
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| 04:53.33 | Efazati | Driver, what is mean? |
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| 04:54.04 | Driver | twinview doesn't support more two displays |
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| 04:55.01 | Efazati | Driver, you said this before and thank you, i wanna config xinerma . what about this |
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| 04:57.24 | Driver | unfortunately does not help with xinerama. I only use dual-head with twinview. look in google for xinerama |
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| 05:19.17 | s3phir0th115 | Can anyone refer to me some possible log files to check on a server that seems to crash at random times? |
| 05:19.28 | axscode | hi guys, how to compile in gcc if i havent set the gcc environment paths ? |
| 05:19.34 | s3phir0th115 | For possible hints on troubleshooting? I've been kinda doing crapshoots through /var/log |
| 05:20.09 | flamingspinach | well, mozilla.debian.net seems to be up again, but with no files on it |
| 05:20.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | axscode: um. type 'gcc' then what you want to commpile? |
| 05:20.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | s3phir0th115: try syslog or dmesg as starting points |
| 05:20.50 | axscode | string.h is not found and all .h |
| 05:20.55 | axscode | meaning the path is wrong. |
| 05:20.58 | optraz | mm.. they are discussing about kernel version 3.0 :) |
| 05:21.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | axscode: is the path wrong, or is it not available? |
| 05:21.56 | axscode | gcc is there |
| 05:22.08 | axscode | shell is not normal shell... |
| 05:22.18 | axscode | no environments |
| 05:22.42 | s3phir0th115 | Hmm.... Nothing abnormal in those files |
| 05:22.47 | \amethyst | gcc doesn't need any environment variables. but you do need libc6-dev for the C header files |
| 05:22.53 | s3phir0th115 | Guess it might be overheating after all, as I first though |
| 05:22.55 | s3phir0th115 | thought* |
| 05:23.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | s3phir0th115: check the thermal zone under /etc/acpi/ |
| 05:23.26 | \amethyst | (well, PATH needs to be set, but if you can run gcc that's not the problem) |
| 05:23.57 | axscode | shell is sever client i made so its very raw shell, need to install to devices i made |
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| 05:24.47 | axscode | gcc -o foo -L/gnu/lib -R/gnu/lib -lstdc++ foo.cc <--something like this but im not sure whats for debian |
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| 05:29.52 | ZykoticK9 | buhman, Kamping_Kaiser - chealer on OFTC just pointed out this link regarding mozilla.debian.net http://glandium.org/blog/?p=2058 |
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| 05:30.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | ZykoticK9: i take that to mean it is dowwn because of the alioth move then? |
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| 05:31.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | guess you don't know for sure eitehr *g* |
| 05:31.38 | yao_ziyuan | my cpu is an intel i3-550 (64-bit). should i download the "amd64" or "ia64" edition of debian? |
| 05:31.51 | ZykoticK9 | Kamping_Kaiser, my knowledge is limited to the post ;) just wanted to share the update I got. |
| 05:31.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | ZykoticK9: for sure :) |
| 05:32.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | yao_ziyuan: amd64 |
| 05:35.10 | yao_ziyuan | now i'm at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1a/amd64/bt-dvd/ |
| 05:35.32 | yao_ziyuan | i understand that if i only want a basic debian desktop, i only need to download the first dvd image. |
| 05:35.42 | yao_ziyuan | debian-6.0.1a-amd64-DVD-1.iso.torrent |
| 05:35.53 | yao_ziyuan | but i also see debian-update-6.0.1a-amd64-DVD-1.iso.torrent |
| 05:35.59 | stew | yao_ziyuan: if you can get your computer on the internet, you only need a cd, not a dvd |
| 05:36.01 | yao_ziyuan | do i need this update iso? |
| 05:36.41 | stew | yao_ziyuan: no, you only need the update dvd if you installed 6.0.0 to a computer without internet and you need to get the security updates to that machine (since it can't get them from the internet) |
| 05:36.51 | yao_ziyuan | ok |
| 05:37.16 | yao_ziyuan | is it taboo to tell me about debian vs centos? |
| 05:37.28 | wols_ | no there is no taboo |
| 05:38.00 | yao_ziyuan | then what do you guys think are the pros/cons of debian against centos? |
| 05:38.52 | oldirty | centos has terrible repositories. |
| 05:38.56 | stew | yao_ziyuan: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 05:39.22 | oldirty | just bad all in all. not for any particular reason |
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| 05:40.00 | yao_ziyuan | one difference i can see is #debian has 1074 people and #centos has 565 |
| 05:40.12 | rypervenche | I only hear terrible things about centos |
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| 05:40.40 | yao_ziyuan | does debian use a single repository? |
| 05:40.48 | yao_ziyuan | i hate opensuse-style multiple repos |
| 05:41.17 | yao_ziyuan | e.g. to download the latest firefox i have to manually add the Mozilla:OBS repo in opensuse |
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| 05:42.00 | wipt | trying to figure out how to use mtr |
| 05:42.01 | somiaj | yao_ziyuan: there are multiple repos, but they are split up based on licenses more than anything. |
| 05:42.03 | wipt | it's printing values to my router, and then it can't figure out how to get any farther... |
| 05:42.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | yao_ziyuan: if you want latest anything you'll probably need an extra repo - wether its the backports or mozilla.d.n, or whatever |
| 05:42.41 | somiaj | yao_ziyuan: debian main repo requires a certain level of free software license, then there is non-free and contrib repos for stuff that is used but not 'free' |
| 05:43.12 | yao_ziyuan | debian's main repo certainly doesn't have firefox 4, right? |
| 05:43.17 | yao_ziyuan | because it's too new |
| 05:44.18 | somiaj | yao_ziyuan: for stable, correct. doesn't lok like iceweasel 4 (the firefox rebranding) isn't even in unstable yet. |
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| 05:47.29 | somiaj | yao_ziyuan: but the main stable repo contains a complete system, you just won't have access to bleeding edge software, and then non-free/contrib software if you don't want those repos. Its more if you want software of a newer version than stable or something not put in debian proper you'll have to have lots of repos. |
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| 06:17.06 | mop | hi |
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| 06:18.17 | macrobat_ | o/ |
| 06:18.24 | mop | help! I'm not getting any 3d acceleration with my card, ati radeon 9800, squeeze fresh install |
| 06:18.45 | mop | using 'radeon' driver |
| 06:18.55 | niklaswe | morning |
| 06:19.24 | niklaswe | mop: you must use fxglrx or what they call the driver.. |
| 06:19.35 | niklaswe | you can download it from ati.com |
| 06:19.45 | mop | nope, since it's an old model |
| 06:19.53 | simonlnu | no, don't do that |
| 06:20.04 | simonlnu | ignore what niklaswe said |
| 06:20.06 | mop | fxglrx dropped support |
| 06:20.10 | mop | for my card |
| 06:20.38 | simonlnu | the 9800 is supported, several of them |
| 06:21.11 | simonlnu | you probably don't have mesa installed, and some of the dri libs too |
| 06:21.12 | mop | yeah, the trouble is glxinfo shows direct rendering: Yes |
| 06:21.22 | simonlnu | !radeon |
| 06:21.23 | dpkg | Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by ATI/AMD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>. |
| 06:21.40 | mop | but glxgears -info shows i'm using software rasterizer |
| 06:22.11 | mop | libgl1-mesa-dri is installed |
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| 06:22.28 | niklaswe | mop: oh okey, it was long time ago i used ati.. about 5 -6 years ago.. then i used ati´s own drivers.. |
| 06:22.42 | mjmt | Direct rendering doesn't imply 3D accel. |
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| 06:23.27 | mop | that's my problem |
| 06:23.36 | simonlnu | indeed |
| 06:24.30 | mop | here's an excerpt from Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/wMgMEDxk |
| 06:24.41 | mjmt | mop: Got fglrx-glx etc. installed? |
| 06:25.35 | mop | the open source drivers have 3d accel |
| 06:25.39 | mop | for this model |
| 06:25.42 | simonlnu | yeh, that's only a partial log... |
| 06:25.55 | simonlnu | only shows that it is, not why |
| 06:26.11 | simonlnu | though it's impled that kms isn't enabled |
| 06:26.12 | mop | the part that shows acceleration is disabled |
| 06:26.18 | simonlnu | implied* |
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| 06:26.29 | mop | do i need to enable it? |
| 06:26.30 | simonlnu | paste the *whole* log |
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| 06:27.34 | simonlnu | !pastebinit |
| 06:27.34 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". |
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| 06:29.31 | flamingspinach | what's going on here? http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=ibus-mozc |
| 06:29.56 | flamingspinach | it says the package is not available in debian, which is the same message it gives for nonexistent package names, but clicking the link shows there is a source package, and the news items there even say "migrated to testing" several times |
| 06:30.33 | simonlnu | mop: well? |
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| 06:31.57 | mop | http://pastebin.com/t9DwqLkV |
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| 06:34.02 | wols_ | (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled |
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| 06:34.36 | simonlnu | yes |
| 06:34.58 | simonlnu | shadow getting loaded. pastebin your xorg.conf too |
| 06:35.15 | mop | http://pastebin.com/Q8tpg60v |
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| 06:35.54 | simonlnu | that Load "ati" is useless |
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| 06:36.12 | simonlnu | the other 2 are too, they're loaded by default |
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| 06:36.29 | mop | anyway, they can't do any harm right? |
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| 06:36.43 | simonlnu | the first one isn't even valid |
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| 06:37.26 | simonlnu | the AIGLX option is useless too; comment out everything in "Device" except for the driver and the agpmode |
| 06:37.30 | mop | got that from a tutorial, probably was dated |
| 06:37.34 | simonlnu | restart x |
| 06:37.37 | simonlnu | very dated |
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| 06:38.47 | ethanol | I'm writing a little init.d script for myself for persistant iptables. However, I'm not sure what to put after required-[start|stop]. Anyone got any pointers on this? |
| 06:38.59 | wols_ | simonlnu: does he heve need a xorg.conf at all= |
| 06:39.01 | wols_ | ? |
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| 06:39.23 | ethanol | Also, has this changed now that debian switched to dependency based boot sequence? |
| 06:39.41 | mop | without xorg it doesn't get accel anyways |
| 06:40.01 | simonlnu | probably not, but i'm trying with a minimal one first. |
| 06:40.53 | mop_ | commented out those lines |
| 06:40.59 | mop_ | same thing |
| 06:41.01 | simonlnu | ethanol: what has changed? |
| 06:41.17 | ethanol | simonlnu: boot sequence, somewhere between lenny to squeeze. |
| 06:41.39 | ethanol | simonlnu: was wondering how this affets init.d lsb scripts |
| 06:41.43 | ethanol | affects* |
| 06:42.01 | simonlnu | insserv reads them |
| 06:43.02 | ethanol | yes I've read up that much so far. but I was mostly wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to what a persistant iptables init.d script might need as values for 'required-[start|stop]' |
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| 06:43.15 | simonlnu | mop: defaultdepth: comment that or change to 24 |
| 06:43.18 | ethanol | hrm, I keep writing persistant, dunno why. persistent* |
| 06:43.24 | Gump | how might i go about mounting an iso on a flashdrive? |
| 06:43.31 | simonlnu | iptables-persistent package |
| 06:43.33 | mop_ | is it necessary? I putted that on purpose |
| 06:43.50 | simonlnu | that might be disabling accel |
| 06:44.09 | ethanol | simonlnu: what do you mean? |
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| 06:44.33 | simonlnu | ethanol: iptables-persistent, install it |
| 06:44.48 | ethanol | simonlnu: no, I don't want to do that. I'm writing my own init.d script. |
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| 06:44.57 | mop_ | nope, that wasn't the culprit |
| 06:45.04 | simonlnu | ok fine, be that way :P |
| 06:46.07 | simonlnu | mop_: try putting 'Option "RenderAccel" "True"' in Device section |
| 06:46.07 | ethanol | simonlnu: I already have it working. I'm just here out of curiosity :p -- also, how could I download the files of the iptables-persistant package without installing it? |
| 06:46.20 | simonlnu | aptitude download foo |
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| 06:47.23 | simonlnu | *tent |
| 06:47.34 | ethanol | hrm, that's a .deb. what can I use to view the content of that? |
| 06:47.39 | mop_ | simonlnu: not a chance, also renderaccel is supposed to be true by default |
| 06:47.50 | simonlnu | dpkg -c foo.deb |
| 06:47.50 | dpkg | drwxr-xr-x root/root 2747 2004-9-13 01:57:01 ./usr/share/foo.deb/pr0n/jenna_jamison.xpm |
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| 06:48.07 | ethanol | uh |
| 06:48.08 | ethanol | lol |
| 06:48.12 | simonlnu | wtf |
| 06:48.28 | ethanol | easter egg? =D |
| 06:48.28 | Driver | lol |
| 06:48.40 | mop_ | dpkg -S jenna_jamison.xpm |
| 06:48.40 | dpkg | Badgers ate my jenna_jamison.xpm! |
| 06:48.43 | wols_ | that "factoid" really shows its age |
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| 06:48.55 | simonlnu | sure does |
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| 06:49.30 | simonlnu | ok, try moving the xorg.conf aside, and restart x again (you have been doing this, i hope, all along) |
| 06:50.20 | mop_ | no xorg.conf, no acceleration |
| 06:50.33 | erix | Good morning |
| 06:50.53 | erix | I would like to give permission to www-data users with umask |
| 06:50.54 | simonlnu | do you have libdri* installed? |
| 06:50.58 | erix | How I can do that ? |
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| 06:51.38 | erix | When I create a folder, it will give only read permission to www-data users |
| 06:51.44 | simonlnu | chgrp the dir; i suggest another group you add www-data and those users to, instead |
| 06:51.47 | ethanol | wow, iptables-persistent in the repository is really crappy :< |
| 06:52.10 | mop_ | simonlnu: aptitude can't find libdri, which package is it? |
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| 06:53.06 | ethanol | does debian have a developer channel? |
| 06:53.09 | erix | Is it possible to make that only www-data users are affected from this changes with umask ? |
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| 06:58.45 | mop_ | simonlnu, libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa-glx are both installed, still no accel |
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| 07:00.44 | spiekey | Hello! |
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| 07:01.38 | simonlnu | mop_: sorry, meant libdrm* |
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| 07:03.50 | mop_ | libdrm2 and libdrm-radeon1 are installed |
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| 07:08.00 | mop_ | a |
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| 07:08.48 | mop_ | I got this output after trying to reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri and glx: http://pastebin.com/8UuwQm7p |
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| 07:10.06 | mop_ | maybe has something to do with this? |
| 07:11.38 | wols_ | mop_: purge the all the mesa packages, make sure there is no libgl left, then reinstall them? |
| 07:11.51 | Gump | what is the easiest way to fix grub after a windows install? |
| 07:12.08 | mop_ | ok |
| 07:12.09 | Gump | an ubuntu livecd? or is there a way that doesn't involve downloading a whole new operating system? |
| 07:12.28 | wols_ | !tell Gump about fixmbr |
| 07:12.36 | wols_ | Gump: debian cd is fine |
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| 07:13.16 | Gump | wols_, thanks |
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| 07:16.32 | spiekey | i think i broke my debian :-/ I have a old debian i want to upgrade but keep getting those gzip segfault messages: http://pastebin.com/2W5ebsUF |
| 07:16.37 | spiekey | any idea how to fix this? |
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| 07:18.08 | wols_ | spiekey: copy over a gzip which works? also check gzip itself on the commandline to see if it segfaults |
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| 07:24.05 | spiekey | wols_, the md5sum files are the same as on another old debian box |
| 07:24.09 | mop_ | simonlnu, weird, purged and reinstalled those packages still I got broken pipe error |
| 07:24.48 | wols_ | spiekey: there are libraries too that gzip needs |
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| 07:24.55 | wols_ | spiekey: see ldd |
| 07:25.02 | spiekey | one sec... |
| 07:25.27 | spiekey | they are the same, too. |
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| 07:25.43 | spiekey | i think it a problem somewhere unter my /var partition |
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| 07:26.25 | spiekey | i changed the hardware, but /var often reported fs error on the old hardware. So maybe its a broken apt/dpkg problem or something? |
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| 07:27.18 | simonlnu | mop_: you have flgrx installed, or something. remove that crap. |
| 07:27.59 | mop_ | It's not installed |
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| 07:29.22 | simonlnu | so what's that /usr/lib/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2.dpkg-new ? |
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| 07:29.31 | mop_ | dunno |
| 07:29.48 | mop_ | that directory doesn't exist |
| 07:30.43 | mop_ | I installed fglrx once, seeming I didn't have acceleration, but it's now long gone |
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| 07:31.02 | simonlnu | check dpkg-divert |
| 07:32.17 | mop_ | ok, I removed those diverts |
| 07:33.52 | simonlnu | try again now |
| 07:34.14 | mop_ | oh noes |
| 07:34.19 | mop_ | still uses the rasterizer |
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| 07:36.58 | Big_Brother | is firefox4 available in debian yet? |
| 07:37.06 | Big_Brother | or an alternative. |
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| 07:37.14 | simonlnu | never will be. look at iceweasel |
| 07:37.26 | simonlnu | didn't you ask this like a month ago? |
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| 07:37.36 | Big_Brother | uh |
| 07:37.39 | Big_Brother | idk |
| 07:37.45 | Big_Brother | probably not... |
| 07:38.02 | wols_ | ,versions iceweasel |
| 07:38.03 | judd | Package iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; squeeze: 3.5.16-5; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-7~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-7; sid: 3.5.19-2; wheezy: 3.5.19-2; experimental: 4.0.1-2 |
| 07:38.18 | Big_Brother | iirc, i asked about an alternative to epiphany like mid-last-year. |
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| 07:38.49 | vlt | Hello. I want to set a file's group to always the same group as the directory's in which the file is created. How can I achieve this? |
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| 07:39.10 | simonlnu | must've been something or one else |
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| 07:43.24 | mop_ | i dont understand, it should work |
| 07:43.43 | mop_ | what's that kernel mode setting thing that appeared in the log? |
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| 07:44.22 | wols_ | so the kernel can set videomode. means less/no flicker when changinge videomodes |
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| 07:44.58 | mop_ | it's enabled by radeon-kms.conf |
| 07:44.59 | mop_ | but |
| 07:45.07 | mop_ | Xorg log states otherwise |
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| 07:45.52 | fly80 | hello |
| 07:46.46 | fly80 | where can I find the directory where PostgreSQL has its "data/base/" ? |
| 07:47.10 | fly80 | I have no $PGDATA |
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| 07:47.44 | wols_ | fly80: under /var/lib probably |
| 07:48.22 | jelly-home | fly80: dpkg -L packagename will show you the contents of a package; look under /var |
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| 07:49.25 | fly80 | found it! it has a directory named main, not Data |
| 07:49.35 | wols_ | fly80: how would the postgres package show the database files? |
| 07:49.46 | wols_ | sorry, was for jelly-home |
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| 07:51.25 | fly80 | now a question: I have another installation of postgresql in an another partition (win32). May I replace the local base with the other one? |
| 07:52.10 | simonlnu | fly80: full dump then load it into the other |
| 07:52.27 | fly80 | maybe creating a link from /var/lib/postgresql/9.0/main/base --> link to other base? |
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| 07:52.50 | fly80 | simonlnu, i would like to not duplicate data |
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| 07:54.14 | fly80 | is it in theory possible? Does the server load the database located under the "base" directory? |
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| 07:56.21 | jelly-home | fly80: there's a #postgresql channel if you don't get useful answers here |
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| 07:57.18 | fly80 | jelly-home, yes, thank you |
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| 07:58.52 | Eftarjin | Hi. Who’s taking care of mozilla.debian.net? The website seems downs. |
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| 07:59.06 | Eftarjin | (including repositories) |
| 07:59.30 | simonlnu | jelly-home: what backup thingy do you use at home? |
| 08:00.17 | wols_ | it's part of alioth |
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| 08:19.02 | NoOova | Hi all! i have a server Core i7 and 12gb ram. i want use OpenVZ on it. What version of distributive i must use? x86 or x86_64> |
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| 08:23.53 | somiaj | NoOova: that processor should be able to run 32bit or 64bit -- the one you use will depend on what you want and your host os |
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| 08:27.07 | somiaj | NoOova: it appears that if your host is x86 you can only setup 32bit containers, but on x86_64 you can run 64bit or 32bit containers. |
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| 08:28.00 | tedkilla | Hi chan, I was wondering if anyone can help me out with this problem http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/harddrive-replaced-recover-lvm-882395/ |
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| 08:33.23 | djszapi | Hi! I would like to exclude one file installation from my cups package (/etc/init.d/cups) because we do not need that, we use upstart for running jobs, daemons. How can I do that from my debian package file ? I first thought some cups.{install,files} file modification in the debian directory, but I am not entirely sure how to do it exclusively for this file only? Does anybody has a good idea ? |
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| 08:36.58 | deeLer | djszapi: why don't use just rm the file afterwards |
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| 08:40.14 | djszapi | deeLer: that is not a nice solution and does not work in the practice on our platform because of other reasons. |
| 08:42.36 | somiaj | djszapi: do you have a custom /etc/init.d/cups or would just configuring the init scripts to not run it via update-rc.d -- you can also set the defaults that get used during upgrades |
| 08:43.07 | djszapi | somiaj: I would like to make a debian package with dpkg-buildpackage which does not contain the /etc/init.d/cups file. |
| 08:44.00 | wols_ | djszapi: then do it? |
| 08:44.30 | djszapi | well, if you read my question...that is exactly about how to do that... |
| 08:45.22 | rozie | djszapi: take deb, extract it, remove what you don't need, pack it |
| 08:45.36 | djszapi | pfff |
| 08:45.56 | djszapi | do it all the time when I would like to make a package ? |
| 08:46.27 | djszapi | that is no-go. |
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| 08:47.14 | rozie | djszapi: adjust rules, then |
| 08:47.16 | djszapi | (no, I do not need such a hacker workaround script either, I would like to do it nicely) |
| 08:47.54 | rozie | find a place which is responsible for /etc/init.d/cups creation and disable it |
| 08:48.00 | rozie | this is nice way |
| 08:48.29 | djszapi | no clue how to do that. |
| 08:48.59 | rozie | adjust rules |
| 08:49.05 | djszapi | no clue how to do that. |
| 08:49.22 | rozie | djszapi: what's your favourite editor? |
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| 08:49.38 | djszapi | not sure how it is relevant :) but vi. |
| 08:49.52 | Bushmills | djszapi: mount a RAM disk on /etc/init.d before installation. unmount after. |
| 08:50.04 | rozie | so edit rules file in debian directory with vi |
| 08:50.15 | djszapi | rozie: not any closer. |
| 08:50.19 | djszapi | what to edit there ? |
| 08:50.37 | rozie | BTW complaining about nice way when you got solution isn't nice way too |
| 08:51.14 | djszapi | nobody is complaining |
| 08:51.15 | rozie | djszapi: you want somebody else to do, what _you_ need |
| 08:51.21 | rozie | this is no-go |
| 08:51.23 | rozie | ;) |
| 08:51.23 | djszapi | and I am sorry, if you do not accept the QA rules. |
| 08:51.32 | djszapi | we do need as a company. |
| 08:51.40 | rozie | oh. you want to pay! |
| 08:51.44 | rozie | ;) |
| 08:51.54 | djszapi | sorry for ignoring you... |
| 08:52.33 | rozie | anyway, you got solution. you just need to do a little work |
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| 08:54.07 | somiaj | djszapi: look for dh_installinit you can read that man page |
| 08:54.31 | djszapi | is reading the manpage. |
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| 08:54.52 | somiaj | djszapi: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ also might want to learn what it takes to matain a debian package |
| 08:55.20 | djszapi | no sorry, I am maintaining debian packages for a while. This is not really a question :) |
| 08:55.34 | djszapi | it is just a corner case where I need any help from very experienced packagers. |
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| 08:57.58 | somiaj | djszapi: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#initd -- well then you must have already known you could look up the policies for adding/removing init scripts from pacakges. |
| 08:58.59 | djszapi | mmh, I do not apparently have debian/package.init. |
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| 09:04.11 | imran-uk | debian squeeze i386 - anyone else have the "BADSIG AED4B06F473041FA Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (6.0/squeeze)" issue? |
| 09:04.33 | imran-uk | seems to be related to http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates |
| 09:04.49 | somiaj | imran-uk: have you checked bugs.debian.org |
| 09:05.35 | imran-uk | somiaj, nope. in the past it's been down to maintenance on the server/repos - just thought i'd see if others are reporting it |
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| 09:07.02 | djszapi | somiaj: thanks a lot, cups.upstart file in the debian folder helped me out :) |
| 09:07.04 | imran-uk | somiaj, can't find any bugs relating to my problem |
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| 09:12.06 | monsterkeks | I have a 'small' problem with preseeding debian squeeze. I'm working on this problem for hours now, the problem is that the partman installer asks me wether I would like to "Write changes to storage and configure LVM?", this is the only question left unanswered by my preseeding file |
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| 09:14.49 | babilen | monsterkeks: I can't tell you off-hand what you have to add in the preseeding file, but I would ask on the debian-boot mailing list and in #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net |
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| 09:15.11 | doudou | still have problems here? |
| 09:15.42 | robokop | monsterkeks: d-i partman/choose_partition select Write chan... iirc |
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| 09:16.35 | monsterkeks | robokop: "chan"?, I got this: d-i partman/choose_partition select finish |
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| 09:17.09 | robokop | monsterkeks: you should put the entire string of the option there |
| 09:17.42 | robokop | that is why i added the three dots |
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| 09:18.12 | monsterkeks | robokop: but what options must I insert? |
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| 09:19.00 | djszapi | somiaj: mmh, there is still a small issue with using cups.upstart. Actually it puts it under the /etc/init/ and not /etc/init/apps/ as it should. debian/apps/cups.upstart is not be any better. Is it only a postinstall script solution or can it be somehow managed without that ? |
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| 09:21.35 | robokop | monsterkeks: long time since i seen the d-i to be honest, this is from my memory and looking at a preseed.cfg from about 3 years old |
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| 09:31.50 | monsterkeks | babilen: unfortunetely irc is blocked here, i connected to freenode using the webchat >_< |
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| 09:34.25 | djszapi | any idea how to install an upstart job into the proper /etc/init/* subfolder by using the debian packaging things ? |
| 09:34.27 | babilen | monsterkeks: Ok, that is quite unfortunate (and IMHO a bad decision), but you can still try the mailing lists (debian-user and debian-boot seem appropriate) |
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| 09:34.42 | djszapi | mypackage.upstart gets installed directly into the /etc/init/ which is a wrong place. |
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| 09:35.10 | babilen | djszapi: Try #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 09:35.45 | simonlnu | thought systemd was the considered init replacement anyway, in debian |
| 09:36.18 | djszapi | babilen: ok, however I never got any answer from there :) |
| 09:36.20 | babilen | yup |
| 09:36.53 | simonlnu | you can't just ask and run, you know ;) |
| 09:37.03 | djszapi | why not ? |
| 09:37.15 | djszapi | after an hour when my problem is solved, I can :p |
| 09:37.46 | djszapi | 12:37 -!- djszapi was kicked from #debian-mentors by ChanServ [Invite only channel |
| 09:37.52 | simonlnu | it's nice to tell people you did (not saying you didn't, just for the sake of the discussion) |
| 09:37.57 | simonlnu | ah |
| 09:38.07 | simonlnu | on oftc? |
| 09:38.09 | babilen | djszapi: on irc.oftc.net |
| 09:38.35 | djszapi | simonlnu: sure, I say if I find a solution, that is quite basic thing :) |
| 09:38.37 | djszapi | and fair thing |
| 09:38.57 | babilen | djszapi: OFTC is Debian's official IRC network and most #debian-* channels are over there |
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| 09:39.22 | simonlnu | irc.debian.org points there |
| 09:39.51 | babilen | djszapi: made it :) |
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| 09:58.49 | rgouveia | hi all ... if I update a testing machine that isn't updated like in two months is there something I should overlook? :-) |
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| 10:18.24 | romgo_ | Hello guys, I'm trying to filter ssh access on Debian Squeeze, with nslcd, I use the pam_authz_search in order to filter on a record of my ldap but I'm not sure how to use it |
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| 10:39.25 | mengu | hi. why would these two would differ? http://pastie.org/private/dmp4m1cpujbwhk4tsdk8w |
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| 10:40.22 | nkuttler | mengu: huh? |
| 10:40.59 | mengu | df -h tells i'm using 32 GB and du -sh in "/" tells me it totals 2 GB |
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| 10:46.26 | philipp | does someone know how to get the public_git directory (http://anonscm.debian.org/git/users/) working again? |
| 10:47.47 | frostschutz | mengu: du output is utterly useless as soon as you include /proc, /sys, /dev. also, du can see only visible files. there might be files hidden under mountpoints that consume space for df. |
| 10:48.42 | frostschutz | mengu: mkdir /mnt/mountpoint, mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/mountpoint, and then compare again for /mnt/mountpoint/. Since there isn't anything else mounted under /mnt/mountpoint/ this should reveal hidden files if any |
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| 10:49.00 | babilen | philipp: Hmm, there were plenty of discussion on debian-devel{,-announce} about that. Please check the archives. It is due to schedules maintainence of alioth ... |
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| 10:50.26 | babilen | philipp: But the site should be up and working, what are you looking for? |
| 10:50.32 | philipp | babilen: yeah, i tried but the discussions are a bit confusing |
| 10:50.43 | babilen | hehe, yeah |
| 10:50.58 | philipp | babilen: just my private git repositories |
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| 10:51.09 | babilen | being? |
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| 10:51.26 | babilen | Can you find it in http://anonscm.debian.org/git/ ? |
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| 10:52.06 | philipp | babilen: no, its whatever you have in your $HOME/public_git, it used to be available on git.debian.org, but now its not anymore |
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| 10:53.34 | babilen | philipp: I guess you are looking for https://alioth.debian.org/users/philipp/ ? |
| 10:54.17 | philipp | not really |
| 10:54.46 | babilen | philipp: Ok, well. You might want to ask in #alioth on irc.oftc.net as that is all that I know about this :) |
| 10:55.32 | philipp | ah there's a channel :) good to know |
| 10:55.34 | philipp | thanks |
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| 10:55.46 | babilen | philipp: But it might just take a while, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to tell them that this issue persists (might not be known so far) |
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| 11:01.59 | tuxcrafter | http://paste.debian.net/117823/ hi all i cant seem to resolve ipv6 hosts when using www-data ?? does somebody know why? |
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| 11:05.21 | tuxcrafter | -rw------- 1 root root 50 May 24 09:20 /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 11:05.48 | tuxcrafter | chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 11:06.00 | tuxcrafter | so fixed |
| 11:06.19 | tuxcrafter | I have no idea how the hack the resolv file became 600 |
| 11:06.25 | tuxcrafter | i have seen that before... |
| 11:06.31 | tuxcrafter | no idea why it happens |
| 11:10.04 | oldirty | anyone familiar with a way to extract the colors from my GTK theme in a script? google is letting me down. |
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| 11:10.46 | ph8 | Hey all, I realise that it's no longer a supported release but does anyone know where i can find legacy etch repositories? |
| 11:10.48 | tuxcrafter | oldirty: not directly but the colors are defined in #hex right |
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| 11:11.23 | oldirty | that would be downright awesome. |
| 11:11.59 | tuxcrafter | oldirty: same as color selector in the gimp |
| 11:12.09 | fti | ph8 debian archive -> google |
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| 11:13.42 | ph8 | thx fti |
| 11:13.45 | themill | dpkg: tell ph8 about etch sources.list |
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| 11:15.03 | unicstar | finally after 4 hours I could install libreoffice on my debian 6 squeeze |
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| 11:15.51 | unicstar | actually it took 10 hours but 6 hours were just downloading |
| 11:16.47 | unicstar | I did not remove my previous openoffice, and now I have both openoffice and libreoffice installed in my debian |
| 11:18.02 | abrotman | boggles |
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| 11:39.36 | zedalaye | Hi, can somebody help me to find why I can't install mysql-server packages on Debian 6 ? I seems that the server does'nt start because the packages mysql-server-5.1 and mysql-server are not configured |
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| 11:40.10 | themill | dpkg: tell zedalaye about squeeze mysql |
| 11:40.28 | themill | zedalaye: I'd bet it's something to do with "skip-bdb" in your config somewhere. |
| 11:40.44 | zedalaye | I removed all mysql packages |
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| 11:40.57 | zedalaye | then I installed mysql-server |
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| 11:41.09 | unicstar | zedalaye: did you install mysql or want to install it ? what is the exact problem ? |
| 11:42.02 | Cyclotron | I need netinstall iso |
| 11:42.03 | Cyclotron | I live in south africa |
| 11:42.03 | Cyclotron | mirror please |
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| 11:42.27 | abrotman | Cyclotron: cdimage.debian.org |
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| 11:42.38 | Shubi`Dubi` | hi folks |
| 11:42.39 | zedalaye | I want to install mysql. I upgraded from lenny to skeeze, as I saw that mysql packages cannot be upgraded properly I purged all mysql packages (aptitude purge ~imysql). I'm sure there is no /etc/mysql directory. When I try to install the package "mysql-server" it fails to start mysql daemon |
| 11:42.50 | abrotman | zedalaye: did you read what themill had the bot tell you? |
| 11:42.52 | Shubi`Dubi` | do autoremove |
| 11:42.59 | themill | zedalaye: please read what dpkg said carefully |
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| 11:43.34 | Maxit0r | hola.- |
| 11:43.37 | Shubi`Dubi` | any can tell me what way i can install debian from USB |
| 11:43.46 | abrotman | !tell Shubi`Dubi` about usb install |
| 11:44.04 | Shubi`Dubi` | i need any app for win to make bootable usb key |
| 11:44.13 | unicstar | zedalaye: see error logs to find what is the problem, in /var/log/mysql* |
| 11:44.30 | abrotman | Shubi`Dubi`: did you ask google? there are many |
| 11:45.55 | zedalaye | unicstar: /var/log/mysql is empty var /var/log/mysql.err and /var/log/mysql.log are empty too |
| 11:46.08 | abrotman | zedalaye: DID YOU READ WHAT THE BOT TOLD YOU? |
| 11:46.13 | zedalaye | yes |
| 11:46.18 | abrotman | and what themill told you? |
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| 11:46.36 | zedalaye | yes |
| 11:46.54 | abrotman | wait, was there another version of mysql on the system before this? |
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| 11:47.33 | zedalaye | yes, I ugraded from lenny to squeeze. When I saw that mysql cannot be upgraded I decided to purge all mysql packages |
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| 11:47.49 | themill | zedalaye: "purge" or "remove"? You said remove earlier. |
| 11:47.53 | abrotman | did you backup your DB before? did you also purge all of the mysql-common packages? |
| 11:47.54 | zedalaye | purge |
| 11:48.07 | zedalaye | my db are in /db no problem with purge |
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| 11:48.36 | themill | zedalaye: can you pastebin the server config, please? |
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| 11:48.47 | zedalaye | I purged mysql packages using "aptitude purge ~imysql" so all packages have been removed |
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| 11:49.04 | lolcat | What is the best way to run debian through a browser? I have a dedi I want to run some stuff on... |
| 11:49.05 | unicstar | zedalaye: try running mysqld by hand, using /etc/init.d/mysql start and see what happens |
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| 11:49.38 | sdousley | Hi all, is anyone able to point me in the directiopn of getting php 5.2 working on Squeeze? |
| 11:49.55 | Abddu | In effort to support development of my favourite music player I tried to install its unstable version using a designated Debian repo named in project Wiki. Aptitude full-upgrade told me that these packages will be removed: javascript-common libjs-jquery python-simplejson wwwconfig-common |
| 11:49.55 | Abddu | Do you think it is safe to remove them (no further dependencies conflicts were reported)? Debian Aqueezy AMD 64 + KDE here |
| 11:50.08 | zedalaye | this is the log of aptitude install mysql-server-5.1 : http://pastebin.com/YmeiEjXT# |
| 11:50.12 | Bushmills | lolcat: best way to run debian is to install it on bootable storage device |
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| 11:50.49 | lolcat | Bushmills: Like the harddrive of my dedicated server? I just need a way to access it |
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| 11:51.09 | zedalaye | hum, something strange happens, there is a mysqld process running on port 3306 |
| 11:51.35 | thewanderer1 | sdousley: what does PHP 5.2 have that PHP 5.3 does not? |
| 11:51.48 | Abddu | themill: I didn't read whole your conversation, just came in, but quodlibet doesn't use mysql at all, does it? It just uses a txt file to database your library |
| 11:52.11 | sdousley | thewanderer1: support for session_register which is utilised by an application that we use |
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| 11:52.14 | unicstar | try killing that mysqld process and then test again |
| 11:52.27 | thewanderer1 | sdousley: so write a bloody wrapper... |
| 11:52.28 | abrotman | Abddu: why are you running unstable? |
| 11:52.32 | Bushmills | lolcat: yes, harddrives make good candidates for installing debian |
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| 11:52.43 | sdousley | thewanderer1: I know it isn't ideal, but I'm unlikely to be able to modify the code, so wondered if it was possible to get 5.2 on |
| 11:52.46 | zedalaye | I also have mysqld_safe process runnning |
| 11:52.55 | lolcat | Bushmills: And what makes good canditates to access said OS through a browser? |
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| 11:53.07 | fbh | Firefox |
| 11:53.22 | Abddu | abrotman: I'm not running it yet, I just simulated its install. I want to run unstable to: have the latest version for own satisfaction; report any bugs I see and thus support further devel. |
| 11:53.33 | thewanderer1 | sdousley: just write a wrapper function and add the library file to php.ini to be included before all scripts |
| 11:53.45 | Bushmills | lolcat: define "access" |
| 11:53.51 | abrotman | Abddu: then you should be able to figure out if those packages are safe to remove .. read changelogs/bugreport/etc |
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| 11:54.15 | zedalaye | ok |
| 11:54.17 | abrotman | Abddu: unstable is not a playground for people who don't want to read and do research |
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| 11:54.22 | thewanderer1 | ,info anyterm |
| 11:54.24 | judd | No record of package 'anyterm' in squeeze/i386. |
| 11:54.24 | zedalaye | install succeeded |
| 11:54.34 | unicstar | good |
| 11:54.36 | lolcat | Bushmills: I want to be able to run a gnome/xfce/whatever session that I can detatch and reattach whenever, and whereever I please |
| 11:54.46 | Abddu | abrotman: You misunderstood me: I want to run an unstable version or just ONE APP (wuodlibet), not whole Debian. |
| 11:54.51 | thewanderer1 | lolcat: oh... so VNC |
| 11:54.56 | abrotman | Abddu: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 11:55.08 | abrotman | judd: versions quodlibet |
| 11:55.10 | judd | Package quodlibet on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.ds1-2; squeeze: 2.2.1-1; sid: 2.2.99-1; wheezy: 2.2.99-1 |
| 11:55.14 | lolcat | thewanderer1: VNC stays alive after stopping the session? |
| 11:55.28 | thewanderer1 | lolcat: if you run the server inside an existing X session, yes |
| 11:55.31 | abrotman | Abddu: trying to install a binary package from unstable into stable will result in crying |
| 11:55.32 | Bushmills | lolcat: vnc |
| 11:55.36 | zedalaye | now... I think I have another problem. When I upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze, my DB were not ugraded because they live in /db |
| 11:55.45 | zedalaye | can I upgrade them manually ? |
| 11:55.53 | lolcat | thewanderer1: Can I start an X session without a screen? It is a remote server |
| 11:55.58 | fbh | yes |
| 11:56.06 | Abddu | abrotman: but I want to go even further and use the version from developers repository, not vDebian's unstable |
| 11:56.08 | sdousley | thewanderer1: I'm now getting news that there's a newer version of the software, so I'm gonna try that :D Hopefully they've coded that for 5.3 |
| 11:56.15 | abrotman | !tell Abddu about uupdate |
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| 11:56.28 | fbh | lolcat: Look at vncserver |
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| 11:56.46 | unicstar | zedalaye: you must see my.cnf and find the exact path of your database files, then you can copy/paste your database folder to that one and after restarting mysqld, hopefully, you will have your old data |
| 11:56.57 | Bushmills | lolcat: but - consider to leave away all that GUI stuff and learn command line. much more suited for remote servers, and easier to reattach running sessions |
| 11:57.04 | Abddu | abrotman: So you think that's a dangerous idea and I shouldn't try not being a wiz? That may be a reasonable approach. :) |
| 11:57.26 | thewanderer1 | lolcat: since you want it to run through a browser, you will need a VNC client in HTML/Java/JavaScript and a webserver to host that |
| 11:57.32 | abrotman | Abddu: i'm saying using a binary package from a different version of Debian is not a good idea .. but you can use various other methods to try to compile it for your current system |
| 11:57.34 | lolcat | Bushmills: I am currently running screen with irssi, rtorrent and all my vital server stuff. But I need some grapichal stuff. |
| 11:57.50 | lolcat | thewanderer1: THe server I run it on will probably do fine, it has 8gb of ram and 100mbit unmetered |
| 11:57.57 | zedalaye | unicstar: I understand it looks like it would work... but the new debian-sys-maint password is probably not the same as the one from my previous install |
| 11:58.05 | thewanderer1 | lolcat: SSH can run X11 programs, but no session persistence |
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| 11:58.43 | Bushmills | lolcat: for IRC through server, but graphically, consider to run a bouncer on server, and a graphical IRC client on local machine. |
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| 11:59.22 | Abddu | abrotman: Now I get it. Will consult on #quodlibet too (that's a slooow channel) and will try to try sources first. Thank you. Any thought about the packages I isted, by the way? aptitude show doesn't point to any conflicts as far as I see. |
| 11:59.36 | lolcat | Bushmills: I would never use a graphical irc client |
| 11:59.41 | lolcat | They are so UGLY |
| 11:59.43 | unicstar | zedalaye: no problem, using the new root password, you can change the password for your old database |
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| 11:59.53 | abrotman | Abddu: i'm not going to recommend you continue with that .. just because that package is not intended for running on squeeze .. |
| 12:00.01 | Bushmills | " I am currently running screen with irssi, rtorrent and all my vital server stuff. But I need some grapichal stuff." |
| 12:00.09 | abrotman | Abddu: or at least from what I understand |
| 12:00.12 | lolcat | thewanderer1: Session percistance is the most important thing |
| 12:00.24 | unicstar | zedalaye: your new mysqld is fresh and without any password set, you must set a password for root at first use |
| 12:00.28 | lolcat | Bushmills: Graphical stuff that does not relate to irc or torrenting |
| 12:00.47 | thewanderer1 | lolcat: ok, so go and launch a VNC server, setup $your_favourite_http_server and throw a VNC client on top of it |
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| 12:01.29 | lolcat | Apache is what I prefer, lighttpd kept crashing while loading big files to ram |
| 12:01.35 | abrotman | Abddu: of course, I can't stop you from trying it :) |
| 12:01.42 | lolcat | Mostly because it ran out of ram |
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| 12:02.04 | zedalaye | I think I changed the debian-sys-maint password but I still get this error : "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)" |
| 12:02.18 | themill | that won't help matters |
| 12:03.05 | thewanderer1 | lolcat: if you pick just the right one (for example an advanced Java applet, which depends on the client having JRE... or manage to, hopefully, find a functional JS one), you can well run it on dhttpd :P |
| 12:03.52 | unicstar | zedalaye: login to your new mysqld using your new root password, and then set a new password for "debian-sys-maint" and use "grant" to grant priviledes to debian-sys-maint |
| 12:03.57 | Abddu | abrotman: And here we agree totally. :D Thanks for help, with dedication: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zyP6YNr9Jc (very silent at beginning, your sound is not broken). |
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| 12:04.24 | abrotman | Abddu: uh, thanks i think (not a big fan of that group, sorry) :) |
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| 12:04.29 | lolcat | thewanderer1: I should probably get one flash and one java one if possible |
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| 12:04.39 | bfalcon | Apache got corrupted, reinstalled apache (purged remove and installed it again) and now it looks like I can't find apache2.conf in /etc/apache2 .. I only see "mod-available" under /etc/apache2 .. what gives? |
| 12:04.45 | abrotman | Abddu: but i already know the song! :) |
| 12:05.23 | ham5 | in da house |
| 12:05.23 | thewanderer1 | lolcat: good, but I doubt this channel is going to help you pick one - none seem to be in the repository, so you'd better start web-hunting :P |
| 12:05.24 | Abddu | abrotman: Than don't listen to Mercury, listen to WORDS, man! :D |
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| 12:05.28 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 12:06.55 | Abddu | judd: versions libre-office |
| 12:06.56 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libre-office' was found in i386. |
| 12:07.02 | Abddu | judd: versions libre |
| 12:07.03 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libre' was found in i386. |
| 12:07.40 | abrotman | judd: versions libreoffice |
| 12:07.41 | judd | Package libreoffice on i386 -- wheezy: 1:3.3.2-2; sid: 1:3.3.2-4 |
| 12:07.49 | bfalcon | In order to install apache2, is apache2 the only package needed ? |
| 12:08.28 | zedalaye | I can change the debian-sys-maint password but 'flush privileges' fails with this error : ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'mysql.servers' doesn't exist |
| 12:09.16 | thewanderer1 | bfalcon: yes, although it's recommended that you choose and install one apache2-mpm-* package according to your needs (worker, prefork, itk, whoknowswhatelse) |
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| 12:10.03 | oldirty | zedalaye, it sounds like you have a bogus file or directory in your MySQL data dir. |
| 12:10.34 | Abddu | dpkg has a sens of humor. :D 14:09 dpkg are you using Windows?, Abddu |
| 12:10.34 | dpkg | Abddu: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 12:10.48 | zedalaye | how is encrypted the password in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf ? |
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| 12:11.05 | oldirty | zedalaye, it's not. |
| 12:11.14 | oldirty | at least on our squeeze machines at work it's not. |
| 12:11.22 | thewanderer1 | rot26 :) |
| 12:11.26 | zedalaye | arg |
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| 12:13.17 | unicstar | zedalaye: lets start again : you can use "mysql -u root -p" and you can login to mysql, right ? |
| 12:13.57 | zedalaye | unicstar: ok I got it |
| 12:14.04 | zedalaye | I have another error now |
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| 12:14.12 | zedalaye | ERROR 1577 (HY000) at line 1: Cannot proceed because system tables used by Event Scheduler were found damaged at server start |
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| 12:14.21 | bfalcon | thewanderer1 Is it normal to have conf.d and mods-available folder inside /etc/apache2 .. If so, then what happened to sites-available? |
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| 12:15.42 | bfalcon | Something is seriously wrong here... I can't find apache2 inside /etc/init.d .. I tried purge remove and install numerous time and it doesn't want to work |
| 12:16.12 | wols_ | !tell bfalcon about confmiss |
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| 12:16.27 | zedalaye | found mysql errors, they are in syslog |
| 12:16.43 | wols_ | bfalcon: and most apache config stuff is coming in via apache2-common |
| 12:17.22 | Bushmills | bfalcon: dpkg -L apache2.2-common|less shows those missing dirs and files are the result of installing this |
| 12:19.39 | bfalcon | Bushmills Once I found the missing dirs/files -- how do I get about retrievin' 'em. |
| 12:19.42 | unicstar | zedalaye: that is a non-normal problem, one solution is suggested : run mysql_upgrade -u root -p, and then restart your mysqld service |
| 12:19.47 | bfalcon | using apt-get |
| 12:19.52 | bfalcon | rather than dpkg |
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| 12:21.56 | zedalaye | unicstar: messages from mysqld in syslog suggest to backup/restore all databases |
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| 12:22.23 | unicstar | that is natural, if you have backups |
| 12:22.58 | zedalaye | I was able to mysqldump --all-databases... but I do I restore it in place ? |
| 12:23.14 | greycat | Let's assume that the squeeze kernel is broken and does not support large SCSI devices... let's suppose building a new custom kernel is the best solution... which kernel should I go for? One that's close to squeeze's version? |
| 12:23.33 | Bushmills | bfalcon: nothing to be done, except installing the package(s) |
| 12:24.01 | wols_ | greycat: backports already has 2.6.38 so I'd say you can choose whateevr you want |
| 12:24.41 | greycat | ok, backports sounds like a good thing to try |
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| 12:25.09 | bfalcon | Bushmills Got it. Thanks |
| 12:25.22 | Bushmills | bfalcon: i guess, you removed meta package apache2, but kept apache2.2-common installed. now you reinstalled apache2 - that didn't change anything provided by apache2.2-common |
| 12:25.57 | zedalaye | strange, after backup I restarted the mysql daemon and I now I have no more error messages |
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| 12:26.40 | Bushmills | zedalaye: that's bad... maybe you can restore the error messages from backup? |
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| 12:28.22 | zedalaye | Bushmills: what that humorous ? |
| 12:28.33 | Bushmills | was it? |
| 12:29.17 | zedalaye | maybe, not sure, mysql is such a strange beast |
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| 12:33.02 | Natanaiel | why after apt-get upgrade I get this message & package don't upgrade? http://pastebin.ca/2068330 |
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| 12:33.43 | metalfan_ | hi |
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| 12:34.49 | babilen | Natanaiel: Which version of Debian do you use? I would think that "aptitude full-upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" would upgrade those packages as well. |
| 12:35.00 | greycat | *sigh* OK, going to attempt to reboot on the backport 2.6.38 image.... |
| 12:35.13 | metalfan_ | where does cron send mails for the user www-data? |
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| 12:35.40 | babilen | metalfan_: Typically root, but check /etc/aliases |
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| 12:36.12 | babilen | metalfan_: Ah, I was thinking of www :) |
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| 12:37.53 | zedalaye | unistar and al. it works again, many thanks. |
| 12:37.54 | steampunkey | any reason why apt-get install -t experimental <pkg> would fail? |
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| 12:38.15 | steampunkey | sources.list is ok |
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| 12:38.31 | steampunkey | pinned priority is 1 |
| 12:38.58 | somiaj | steampunkey: what is failing? |
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| 12:39.16 | steampunkey | somiaj: keep getting an old version (<4) of iceweasel |
| 12:39.28 | babilen | steampunkey: Which version of Debian do you use? |
| 12:39.44 | steampunkey | i think it's stable now |
| 12:39.50 | steampunkey | XD |
| 12:39.56 | metalfan_ | after changing /etc/aliases i need to run postalias /etc/aliases right? |
| 12:40.10 | babilen | steampunkey: Ok, don't use experimental packages in that case. You can get iw 4 from http://mozilla.debian.net |
| 12:40.30 | babilen | steampunkey: And why aren't you sure? |
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| 12:40.37 | wols_ | babilen: not today |
| 12:40.41 | steampunkey | babilen: ok, but is it designed to fail in my case? |
| 12:40.45 | somiaj | Natanaiel: upgrade will not add/remove any dependencies that are added/obsoleted. Use dist-upgrade for that. |
| 12:40.50 | wols_ | oh... it's back |
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| 12:41.04 | babilen | steampunkey: Hard to say, provide more information. /msg dpkg bat |
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| 12:42.14 | babilen | steampunkey: But as you shouldn't use experimental packages anyway, you can spare yourself and use the work :) |
| 12:42.24 | babilen | s/use/us |
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| 12:42.55 | Natanaiel | somiaj: after dist-upgrade still some of them are kept back |
| 12:43.01 | steampunkey | babilen: i usually use experimental (my "more info" will tell you that) |
| 12:43.11 | steampunkey | it's just that it crashed recently (again), and i had to reinstall Debian |
| 12:43.26 | babilen | steampunkey: You don't run stable but some frankendebian in that case ;) |
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| 12:44.17 | babilen | Natanaiel: Show us -- /msg dpkg bat |
| 12:44.19 | steampunkey | babilen: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/394253/ |
| 12:44.53 | steampunkey | babilen: if >0 pkg's from another version makes it a frankendebian, i've used nothing but |
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| 12:46.08 | babilen | steampunkey: You *don't* run stable, but sid. Note that the proper channel for sid users is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, your pinning is also unnecessary. Remove the pinning, check "apt-cache policy" again (for proper priorities) and try "aptitude -t experimental iceweasel" |
| 12:46.31 | somiaj | Natanaiel: does atp-cache policy <pkg name> give you any info as to why it isn't installing the nwerer version -- you don't have packages set on 'hold'? |
| 12:46.34 | surf | hi I'm experiencing some distort sound in flash players using debian 64 bit. just upgraded to wheezy. on squeeze no problems with the flash plugin |
| 12:46.42 | steampunkey | babilen: i *do* run stable, as i haven't (dist-)upgraded yet. |
| 12:47.05 | steampunkey | babilen: what about my pinning tho? |
| 12:47.19 | fanta01 | I am trying to install debian squeeze and the installer fails to recognize my network card, despite the fact that its a standard Intel card and the Ubuntu installer recognizes it without any problems. does anyone have an idea what might be the cause of the problem? |
| 12:47.32 | somiaj | steampunkey: you don't run stable as soon as you start pulling in experimental packages. Also experiential are usually based off of sid dependencies which can cause problems with only stable sources. |
| 12:47.36 | babilen | steampunkey: Your apt-cache output as well as your sources.list indicate that you are tracking sid. |
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| 12:48.11 | steampunkey | somiaj: we've established i'm running a stable frankendebian |
| 12:48.24 | steampunkey | (soon to be experimental frankendebian) |
| 12:48.36 | babilen | steampunkey: Either: Change your sources back to squeeze and use the packages from http://mozilla.debian.net or 2. Upgrade to sid and try again. Your inconsistent configuration is hard to debug .. |
| 12:49.08 | greycat | Well, the backport kernel made sdg work, and made sdf stop working; but neither one finds the 6th device which I expected to see (sdh). Damn it. |
| 12:49.14 | steampunkey | babilen: sigh. it's just that experimental caused bad probs for me the last two times... idk. i'll get back. thanks for your help |
| 12:49.26 | somiaj | fanta01: does the nic require some non-free firmware? Debian won't provide non-free firmware by default while ubuntu will. |
| 12:49.27 | babilen | steampunkey: But you already have iceweasel from sid installed, so you are already in some weird squeeze/sid mix state |
| 12:49.44 | greycat | Also, I had to intervene during the boot, because it failed to find the /dev/disk/by-id/* for fsck purposes, even though they were all there when I "logged in" and mounted them. |
| 12:49.47 | steampunkey | babilen: that is true. i have 2 packages from squeeze: iceweasel and chromium |
| 12:49.55 | babilen | steampunkey: *sid* not squeeze |
| 12:50.00 | greycat | (all except whatever the 6th one is) |
| 12:50.02 | steampunkey | (note: chromium doesn't even exist in stable !!) |
| 12:50.08 | steampunkey | babilen: yep |
| 12:50.14 | babilen | ,versions chromium-browser |
| 12:50.14 | judd | Package chromium-browser on i386 -- squeeze: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze4; squeeze-security: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze4; wheezy: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze4; sid: 11.0.696.68~r84545-3 |
| 12:50.22 | babilen | steampunkey: It sure does ^^^ |
| 12:50.28 | steampunkey | watwat |
| 12:50.31 | steampunkey | strange. |
| 12:50.32 | fanta01 | somiaj: I think I just found the answer via google, squeeze doesnt have the drive for that card for some reason |
| 12:50.56 | steampunkey | babilen: will be back anyway. |
| 12:51.06 | carandraug | Hi! I have a question with samba. I want to have a folder that is readable and writable by everyone and another folder (one for each user) that is readable by everyone but writable only by the owner. Short than create a separate samba share for each of them, is there any way I can do this? |
| 12:51.29 | greycat | carandraug: isn't that what [homes] does? |
| 12:51.39 | babilen | steampunkey: So, make up your mind what you want to run, bring your system into a consistent state and ac accordingly. If you decide to track sid, ask further questions in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, but be aware that you might run into a bunch of problems. |
| 12:51.50 | dutchfish | carandraug, look at the example files and doc for 'public' and 'home' usage in samba-docs |
| 12:52.19 | dvs | babilen: he's gone |
| 12:52.20 | carandraug | greycat, ok. I just started yesterday. I don't think I have a [home] there |
| 12:52.28 | babilen | dvs: Yeah, I've seen that :) |
| 12:52.38 | babilen | dvs: (a bit too late though) |
| 12:52.40 | carandraug | dutchfish, ok. I'll look into them again. Thanks |
| 12:52.41 | greycat | carandraug: grep homes /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 12:52.46 | somiaj | carandraug: you'll have to modify [homes], by default other users won't see other peoles homes, or use it to model your setup. |
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| 12:54.33 | greycat | I *still* don't understand what all this "detected capacity change from HUGENUMBER to OTHERHUGENUMBER" is |
| 12:54.45 | Guthur | I have export TNS_ADMIN=/usr/lib/oracle/10.2.0.4/client/admin/network in my .profile but it is not showing when I try to echo |
| 12:54.49 | Guthur | any ideas? |
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| 12:54.59 | dawud | Guthur: what shell do you use? |
| 12:55.01 | carandraug | greycat, there is a [home] but it's commented. I see now. The users of samba don't really ahve account on the system (this is the lab server, we just want to share files among each others) |
| 12:55.02 | greycat | Guthur: do you also have a ~/.bash_profile? How did you login? |
| 12:55.17 | dawud | Guthur: try sourcing it |
| 12:55.17 | jelly | greycat: is the other number larger? |
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| 12:55.19 | Guthur | I'm using bash |
| 12:55.39 | carandraug | greycat, and won't the [home] actually create separate shares? |
| 12:55.40 | dawud | Guthur: .bash_profile is the right place to do it. source it afterwards |
| 12:55.47 | greycat | jelly: um... I think so? I mean, the last 3 I looked at all are, but I'm not sure if they *always* are... |
| 12:55.57 | Guthur | ah sourcing working |
| 12:55.58 | babilen | Guthur: And you might want to consider installing Oracle to /usr/local or /opt and don't mess with /usr/lib |
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| 12:56.06 | greycat | carandraug: it's [homes] not [home] and I'm no expert in Samba |
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| 12:56.39 | jelly | greycat: when you're stopping an array it can go from XXX to 0 |
| 12:56.46 | Guthur | ok, I'll move to bash_profile, and consider /opt and /usr/local in future |
| 12:56.59 | Fudge | hi is mangler in debian repos now? |
| 12:57.01 | Guthur | cheers dawud, greycat and babilen |
| 12:57.11 | greycat | jelly: there are two external SCSI RAID cabinets that are supposed to be presenting a total of 6 "disks" to the system |
| 12:57.22 | greycat | jelly: I'm seeing 5 "disks" one of which is fucking up |
| 12:57.39 | carandraug | greycat, ok. Thanks anyway. The [homes] might work |
| 12:57.46 | dutchfish | carandraug, no [homes] is one share, but you have to take account of share rights and dir/file rigths, the later ones allow/prohobit the needed roles to access by others or not. |
| 12:58.03 | greycat | Guthur: if you have both a .bash_profile and a .profile, a bash login shell only reads .bash_profile and ignores .profile. But depending on how you login, you may NEVER actually run a bash login shell at all. |
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| 12:58.24 | greycat | E.g. if you login with gdm or kdm. |
| 12:59.05 | carandraug | dutchfish, [homes] is one share? Or one share per user? From the comments on smb.conf, they say it's \\server\username |
| 12:59.24 | dutchfish | carandraug, so you can basically bind an access rule per user or group on the file sharing level in samba |
| 13:00.26 | dutchfish | carandraug, the path to this share is different per user, because /path/[username] is used in [home] |
| 13:00.29 | jelly | greycat: you can always reconfigure and echo 1 > /sys/block/sdXY/device/rescan to make kernel consider its size again |
| 13:00.35 | carandraug | dutchfish, yeah. I was reading about that. What I wanted is to bind different rules for the same user, on the same share, depending on the directory (but still on the same share |
| 13:01.05 | greycat | is "reconfigure" a separate explicit action I have to take, or is "echo 1 > ..." what you mean by reconfigure? |
| 13:01.19 | dutchfish | carandraug, samba can be taunting to grasp at first glance, but just read it and take your time, once you got it, its not that hard |
| 13:01.43 | greycat | ITYM daunting |
| 13:01.49 | dutchfish | ty |
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| 13:02.50 | greycat | jelly: well... that actually worked. |
| 13:03.01 | dutchfish | carandraug, its group rules | user rules | fs security rules ; in that order |
| 13:03.19 | mOxim | flashplugin is opensource? |
| 13:03.26 | greycat | does this mean every time I have to reboot this machine, I'm going to have to be physically present in the server room and nurse each "disk" back to working state with band-aids and antibiotics? |
| 13:03.29 | carandraug | dutchfish, so the path to user1's [homes] is \\server\user1 and the to user2's [home] is \\server\user2 . Does that means that it will appear as 2 different shares? Yeah. it looks confusing to me now. I hope I get it right eventualy |
| 13:03.38 | dutchfish | carandraug, bingo |
| 13:04.13 | dutchfish | carandraug, the same trick can be done for groups btw |
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| 13:04.39 | sdgefh | hi all |
| 13:05.47 | carandraug | dutchfish, hmm.. I see. So I think the way for me to do it is to set it up on the filesystem then (I want to avoid having more than one share otherwise everyone will end up writing in the common directory) |
| 13:05.55 | carandraug | dutchfish, thank you |
| 13:06.02 | dutchfish | carandraug, yw |
| 13:06.42 | sdgefh | i'm setting subversion in my debian, so colleagues can join on a project, now i created the repository in /var/svn-repos and i'm checking out with svn+ssh on a windows machine with eclipse and tortoiseplink as ssh client, but it only works for root |
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| 13:11.40 | unicstar | sdgefh: you mean other users can not login to ssh ? |
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| 13:12.42 | jelly | sdgefh: are the files group read- and writable and are the (other) users members of that group? |
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| 13:17.45 | surf | anyone experiencing distortion with flash player 10 and deb wheezy 64bit? |
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| 13:21.41 | greycat | All right. I've grabbed a literal pen and paper and made a fuckin' TABLE of my SCSI devices that are showing up, and which sd* is bound to which (currently), and which file system each one is. So now I know it's missing the second "disk" from the cabinet on the 02:08.0 interface. |
| 13:22.06 | greycat | now if I can just figure out which cabinet is on which interface.... |
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| 13:30.45 | ben42 | hello, |
| 13:31.04 | ben42 | is there a way to deeply compare two .deb package ? |
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| 13:31.34 | abrotman | deeply? |
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| 13:32.52 | greycat | compare? |
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| 13:33.01 | ben42 | abrotman, not just removed/new file but file content |
| 13:33.26 | greycat | so... you are *solely* concerned with the files that are part of the data.tar.gz part of the .deb? |
| 13:33.39 | greycat | not with any other information? |
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| 13:34.21 | ben42 | no control stuff also |
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| 13:34.26 | ben42 | too |
| 13:34.32 | greycat | English fail. |
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| 13:34.35 | ben42 | everuthing |
| 13:34.54 | greycat | If you use a COMMA after the word "no", it totally changes the meaning. |
| 13:34.58 | greycat | "no control stuff" |
| 13:35.03 | ben42 | well ok i'm gonna unpack it and diff it |
| 13:35.03 | greycat | "no, control stuff too" |
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| 13:35.20 | ben42 | yeah there was on in my head, it doesn't reach my hands |
| 13:35.23 | ben42 | one |
| 13:35.37 | ben42 | didn't |
| 13:35.41 | ben42 | whatev |
| 13:35.45 | babilen | thinks that the intended meaning was conveyed anyway |
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| 13:36.52 | ben42 | ... so how do i unpack a deb ? |
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| 13:37.01 | ben42 | dpkg somethin i gess |
| 13:37.02 | dpkg | ben42: wish i knew |
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| 13:37.09 | greycat | *cry* |
| 13:37.10 | babilen | dpkg -x the.deb /where/to/unpack/to |
| 13:37.10 | dpkg | babilen: no idea |
| 13:37.14 | ben42 | oh lol |
| 13:37.22 | catsup | man dpkg-debb |
| 13:37.28 | ben42 | babilen, thx |
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| 13:37.41 | ben42 | dpkg dpkg-debb |
| 13:37.42 | dpkg | ben42: no idea |
| 13:37.51 | catsup | oops that's a tpyoe i mean dpkg-deb |
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| 13:38.12 | catsup | are you trying to extract the files or the package metadata? |
| 13:38.23 | catsup | --fsys-tarfile extracts the files |
| 13:38.44 | greycat | I think he doesn't *know* what he's unpacking. |
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| 13:38.58 | catsup | oh i see |
| 13:39.21 | babilen | greycat: Why the weeping? |
| 13:39.26 | catsup | i need to stop switching over to this tab and answering the question on the bottom line without reading any context :p |
| 13:39.58 | babilen | heh |
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| 13:40.16 | greycat | catsup: oh, I have that problem *all* the time.... |
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| 13:40.35 | catsup | such is irc for the 24/7 idlers |
| 13:40.37 | dcestari | hi |
| 13:40.47 | babilen | dcestari: welcome |
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| 13:40.53 | dcestari | thanks babilen |
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| 13:41.28 | dcestari | anyone can help me find out why my Debian Squeeze based server keeps rebooting it-self? |
| 13:41.39 | greycat | faulty power supply most likely |
| 13:41.47 | catsup | check logs |
| 13:41.49 | catsup | maybe it's overheating |
| 13:42.00 | dcestari | greycat: anyway you know to check this? |
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| 13:42.15 | dcestari | catsup: I checked the logs but can't find anything wrong |
| 13:42.25 | catsup | it doens't actually reboot |
| 13:42.28 | catsup | it just loses power? |
| 13:42.29 | greycat | does it just *drop* and then power up, or does it do a reboot? |
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| 13:43.26 | dcestari | well, I can't really tell, all I know is that I have some Xen VMs running, and some services I manually start, and after a while there are no VMs and services are stopped |
| 13:43.29 | catsup | in any case it's almost certainly a hardware problem |
| 13:43.39 | catsup | uh |
| 13:43.45 | dcestari | I see the "reboot" entries in the log with "last reboot" |
| 13:43.47 | catsup | and 'uptime' is reset? |
| 13:44.13 | dcestari | catsup: yes |
| 13:44.18 | catsup | you need to look at the logs right before the start of the last boot |
| 13:44.23 | dcestari | I ran memtest86+ |
| 13:44.37 | twobitsprite | I'm generating a CA certificate for an LDAP server I'm setting up... When I run the CA.sh -newca command, towards the end it asks for a "challange password"... is this supposed to be different than the "PEM passphrase"? None of the tutorials mention this question or what it means... (x-posted to #openssl) |
| 13:44.39 | dcestari | like 2 or 3 passes, and it went all ok |
| 13:44.40 | fly80 | in which package may I find the library libogr_wrap? |
| 13:44.50 | catsup | yeah well bad memory wouldn't cause a reboot anyway |
| 13:45.04 | sdgefh | jelly, sorry for the wait. Yes the problem is that only root can commit changes to the repository |
| 13:45.09 | dcestari | catsup: I'll try to find the logs and get back with more info |
| 13:45.12 | catsup | (just a hang more likely) |
| 13:45.34 | sdgefh | jelly, still /var/svn-repos has group rw, and the group is subversion, and my other users have this group |
| 13:45.56 | sdgefh | jelly, is did chgrp subversion myuser for each one |
| 13:46.02 | AnOnJoe | Hi' |
| 13:47.25 | catsup | twobitsprite: i don't know what that is, exactly, but the PEM passphrase is the key that encrypts the signing key; the 'challenge password' is surely a key to encrypt something else... |
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| 13:48.11 | jelly | sdgefh: I don't understand that last line |
| 13:48.26 | AnOnJoe | I've got 2 files, the 2nd one contains partial data from the 1st one. I would like to create a 3rd one who contain the 1st one minus 2nd one |
| 13:48.33 | dcestari | catsup: I just noticed my time is all messed up |
| 13:48.40 | dcestari | catsup: s/time/date/ |
| 13:48.41 | AnOnJoe | i'm thinking about a grep -V |
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| 13:48.52 | catsup | dcestari: install ntp |
| 13:48.59 | AnOnJoe | but i'm looking for a way to do that with sed |
| 13:49.02 | stew | AnOnJoe: what is the structure of the files? |
| 13:49.05 | dcestari | catsup: yep |
| 13:49.17 | AnOnJoe | there is one data per line |
| 13:49.28 | stew | AnOnJoe: fgrep -F file2 -v file1 > file3 |
| 13:49.38 | nvz | anyone have any idea how GNOME in squeeze handles "multimedia keys" on a keyboard? my old wireless keyboard worked the way I wanted it to, this one however I'd like to reconfigure the functions of these keys. |
| 13:49.39 | stew | err, -f not -F |
| 13:49.39 | catsup | AnOnJoe: there's a coreutil for that, called comm |
| 13:49.39 | AnOnJoe | fgrep |
| 13:49.46 | stew | yes, fgrep |
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| 13:49.55 | catsup | wait what |
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| 13:50.02 | catsup | you want to do this by lines? |
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| 13:50.15 | catsup | comm does it |
| 13:50.31 | AnOnJoe | yes |
| 13:50.42 | Wyzard | nvz: X11 has some keysyms like XF86Play and XF86Stop... multimedia keys are bound to those, just like any other key |
| 13:50.43 | AnOnJoe | don't no that grep can take pattern from file |
| 13:50.49 | jelly | sdgefh: this is what permissions for one of our svn repos accessible via svn+ssh look like: drwxrws--- 7 ikiwiki ikiwiki 4096 Jul 23 2007 svnrepo |
| 13:50.52 | AnOnJoe | cool |
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| 13:50.58 | catsup | comm file1 file2 -13 shows files that are in file2 but not file1 |
| 13:50.58 | Wyzard | dunno about how apps respond to those keys though |
| 13:51.05 | msoos | hey, I have a problem when linking with "-static": /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s" I have gcc_s. "soos@sleepy:/lib$ ls libgcc* |
| 13:51.05 | msoos | libgcc_s.so.1 |
| 13:51.05 | msoos | " |
| 13:51.08 | stew | catsup: you need to add subshells to sort the files |
| 13:51.11 | dcestari | how do I read /var/log/faillog ? is it useful? |
| 13:51.12 | jelly | sdgefh: all users are members of the corresponding group |
| 13:51.23 | catsup | oh right they have to be sorted |
| 13:51.28 | msoos | and I am passing "-L/lib" to the linker |
| 13:51.33 | sdgefh | jelly, that's right, and the permissions are 775 just like you showd |
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| 13:51.48 | catsup | which may not fit the data type at all |
| 13:51.56 | Wyzard | msoos: You shouldn't need -L/lib afaik -- /lib is on the compiler's default library path |
| 13:52.01 | jelly | sdgefh: note the setgid bit. |
| 13:52.15 | msoos | Wyzard, yes, but still, why doesn't it find it?? |
| 13:52.19 | jelly | sdgefh: that's not 775. |
| 13:52.23 | sdgefh | jelly, no? |
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| 13:52.26 | msoos | it makes no sense, right? |
| 13:52.30 | sdgefh | jelly, oh the s |
| 13:52.33 | nvz | Wyzard: I'm not sure I understand that but right now my home button for example launches nautilus.. and the main things I am concerned with is that I dont want ANY keys doinng hings like launching nautilus or putting the machine to sleep, ALL I want is volume control |
| 13:52.41 | sdgefh | jelly, how can i set gid? |
| 13:52.42 | Wyzard | msoos: libgcc_s.so.1 is a shared library, which is ignored when static linking -- it's looking for a libgcc_s.a |
| 13:52.43 | nvz | and this keyboard doesnt have volume keys |
| 13:52.53 | jelly | sdgefh: chmod g+s |
| 13:52.57 | msoos | Wyzard, oh... :O How do I build that? |
| 13:53.06 | Wyzard | msoos: which makes no sense, because the "_s" suffix stands for "shared" -- I think the static one is just called libgcc.a |
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| 13:53.37 | sdgefh | jelly, that should be recursive ? |
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| 13:53.50 | jelly | sdgefh: yes. |
| 13:53.58 | sdgefh | jelly, thanks a lot i'll try it :) |
| 13:53.59 | msoos | Wyzard, OK, I have libgcc.a under "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5". How do I tell the linker to use that instead of gcc_s ? |
| 13:54.06 | sdgefh | jelly, |
| 13:54.11 | jelly | sdgefh: I mean, g+s all the directories underneath, not the files |
| 13:54.12 | Wyzard | msoos: I'd expect -static to make it automatically look for libgcc rather than libgcc_s though |
| 13:54.19 | sdgefh | jelly, that's what i was about to ask |
| 13:54.23 | msoos | ( Wyzard -- btw, thanks until now ;) ) |
| 13:54.24 | sdgefh | jelly, thanks |
| 13:54.34 | msoos | Wyzard, well, I would expect it just to work :D |
| 13:54.47 | msoos | Wyzard, how should I tell it to use the ".a" ? :S |
| 13:55.29 | nvz | Idk but I think I need to just stop upgrading.. this shit pisses me off.. I prefered when these keys did nothing until I specifically programed them to |
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| 13:55.39 | Wyzard | msoos: Apparently there's a -static-libgcc option |
| 13:56.00 | nvz | I'm considering pryign them off the f'n keyboard thats how much of a PITA they are to me |
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| 13:56.19 | Wyzard | msoos: I'm surprised that's not implied by -static though |
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| 13:57.07 | msoos | Wyzard, "/usr/bin/ld: unrecognized option '--static-libgcc'" and the simple "-static-libgcc' was interpreted as -s -t --atitc-libgcc :O |
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| 13:57.22 | Wyzard | nvz: My GNOME "Keyboard Shortcuts" window has a bunch of actions bound to XF86* keysyms -- in particular, "Home Folder" is bound to "XF86HomePage" |
| 13:57.30 | Wyzard | nvz: You could probably just remove the bindings there |
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| 13:57.41 | Wyzard | msoos: -static-libgcc, not --static-libgcc |
| 13:57.53 | Wyzard | oh, nevermind, you tried that |
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| 13:58.17 | nvz | Wyzard: I'm looking in keyboard preferences.. haven't gotten into keyboard shortcuts yet |
| 13:58.38 | msoos | Wyzard, yes, I did ;) |
| 13:58.47 | msoos | strange, though |
| 13:58.49 | sdgefh | jelly, it works thanks |
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| 13:59.50 | Wyzard | msoos: Were you giving that option to gcc, or were you bypassing gcc and running ld directly? |
| 14:00.56 | msoos | Well, it's CMake-based, this is the command-line: "/usr/bin/gcc -DNDEBUG -Wall -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -ggdb -fdata-sections -ffunction-sections -Wl,-Map=output.map -Wl,--gc-sections -Wl,/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libgcc.a -Wl,-static -Wl,-static-libgcc CMakeFiles/protocol.dir/protocol.c.o CMakeFiles/protocol.dir/ltmath/bncore.c.o "...blahblah lots of '.o' ..." -o protocol" |
| 14:01.18 | Wyzard | Oh, that's probably why, then |
| 14:01.27 | Wyzard | It shouldn't be using -Wl,-static, it should just be using -static |
| 14:01.29 | msoos | why? :D |
| 14:01.56 | Wyzard | because -Wl,-static tells the linker to link statically, but doesn't tell gcc that the linker will be doing that |
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| 14:02.02 | msoos | Oh, right, I LOVE this! Embrace segfault! |
| 14:02.04 | Wyzard | so gcc doesn't know to tell it to link with libgcc instead of libgcc_s |
| 14:02.13 | msoos | collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault] |
| 14:02.14 | msoos | /usr/bin/ld: make[2]: *** [protocol] Error 1 |
| 14:02.17 | msoos | yes! |
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| 14:02.33 | msoos | for a simple, trivial GCC command this is what happens |
| 14:02.51 | msoos | Am I meant to gdb this one? ;) |
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| 14:03.20 | Wyzard | I just compiled a simple test program with "gcc test.c -o test -static" and it works; with "gcc test.c -o test -Wl,-static" I get the "cannot find -lgcc_s" error |
| 14:03.41 | nvz | Wyzard: well that works for all but the sleep button, which is "configurable" in the power management prefs but only tto"suspend" or "hibernate" blah.. I don't want it to do anything.. heh. |
| 14:03.56 | msoos | Wyzard, oh, OK, thanks for that! |
| 14:04.08 | msoos | Wyzard, but what should I do with an "ld" segfault? |
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| 14:04.23 | msoos | Wyzard, that's not meant to segfault, right, |
| 14:04.24 | msoos | ? |
| 14:05.06 | Wyzard | No, ld should not segfault |
| 14:05.17 | Wyzard | That sounds like something wrong with your system |
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| 14:05.23 | Wyzard | Check for bad RAM, corrupted files, etc. |
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| 14:05.41 | msoos | Wyzard, there is nothing wrong. I can reproduce this on an independent Debian system. |
| 14:06.02 | Wyzard | so you just have a very strange program that triggers a bug in the linker? |
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| 14:06.23 | msoos | I remember finding a GCC bug affecting all 4.5.x (I spent a full 48h debugging that one!). I am starting to be *suspicious* :S |
| 14:06.51 | msoos | BTW, GCC bug has been fixed in 4.6.x series, but still :S |
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| 14:07.50 | msoos | I have a very simple thing that again triggers a bug in some major software, yes. Last time, I thought about writing a fuzzer for GCC, but I think I will *actually* do it now |
| 14:07.58 | dutchfish | msoos, are you running 4.4.5-8? |
| 14:08.14 | msoos | dutchfish, yes |
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| 14:08.38 | msoos | If no one writes a fuzzer, I will :) |
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| 14:08.49 | msoos | It will make *my* life easier! |
| 14:08.53 | dutchfish | msoos, i have seen this ones on statically compiled libs, just once. |
| 14:09.06 | drwahl | is there some way to determine if my USB port is USB 3.0? i'm not seeing much info in lsusb, lspci, dmesg |
| 14:09.37 | pipeline | drwahl: it's probably not usb 3.0 |
| 14:09.37 | yow | hi everyone. i made a grave mistake yesterday by executing `mkfs.ext3 -j /dev/sda5' instead of sdb5. I wonder if I can have my old partition table and also the data in sda5 back using testdisk? Is there any other better tool or command to achieve the task? Any help, advice, pointer or comments are welcome |
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| 14:09.54 | Alam_Squeeze | drwahl: try 'lsusb -t' |
| 14:09.55 | drwahl | pipeline: well, actually i know for a fact it is usb 3.0. i just want verification within the OS |
| 14:09.56 | Alam_Squeeze | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.19 | flamingspinach | sorry for the repost, but... what's going on here? http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=ibus-mozc |
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| 14:10.30 | pipeline | drwahl: if it says "UHCI" or "OHCI" it's USB 1.0/1.1. If it says "EHCI", it's 2.0. |
| 14:10.37 | pipeline | drwahl: (in the lspci output for the hub device) |
| 14:10.39 | msoos | dutchfish, damn :( |
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| 14:11.13 | pipeline | Alam_Squeeze's tip is better |
| 14:11.14 | msoos | dutchfish, gcc-4.3 doesn't work either. I think it's calling "ld" so I should compile a new ld |
| 14:11.16 | msoos | :S |
| 14:11.20 | dutchfish | msoos, i thought back then that it was related to mem starvation. I increased ram, since then it didnt show up again. |
| 14:11.24 | yow | sda5 is approx. 53GiB. At the moment I'm still trying to recover the lost partition table and data using testdisk but it seems that's not very helpful this time (i had used it successfully before to recovered a similar disaster on a 4GB usb penrive) |
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| 14:11.30 | drwahl | that'll do. thanks pipeline and Alam_Squeeze |
| 14:11.34 | abrotman | flamingspinach: the package isn't in Debian .. how is that confusing ? |
| 14:11.34 | nvz | I'd be perfectly happy if I can't stop this sleep key from doing something just stopping the ability for my machine to sleep or suspend at all if that is easier to accomplish |
| 14:11.41 | pipeline | Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci_hcd/5p, 480M |
| 14:11.45 | pipeline | Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/2p, 5000M |
| 14:11.46 | flamingspinach | abrotman: because if you click the link, it is in debian |
| 14:11.48 | abrotman | judd: versions ibus-mozc |
| 14:11.50 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'ibus-mozc' was found in i386. |
| 14:11.52 | flamingspinach | not only that, it's even migrated to testing... |
| 14:11.53 | msoos | dutchfish, I have 24GB of RAM |
| 14:11.53 | nvz | otherwise I'm getting a chisel and a hammer and taking this key off my fucking keyboard. heh |
| 14:11.53 | pipeline | there's the difference between USB 2 and 3, way easier |
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| 14:12.06 | rozie | yow: never play with real partition. just make image and try recovery on it |
| 14:12.09 | msoos | dutchfish, isn't that enough to link a 250KB binary? :D |
| 14:12.15 | yow | it seems to me that testdisk work much better for vfat rather than ext3 |
| 14:12.15 | dutchfish | msoos, ehe |
| 14:12.18 | flamingspinach | judd: where do you see that? |
| 14:12.19 | abrotman | flamingspinach: it's amd64 only and in non-free |
| 14:12.23 | flamingspinach | oh |
| 14:12.24 | flamingspinach | a bot |
| 14:12.39 | abrotman | flamingspinach: not sure if that 'tracking' site follows anything other than main to be honest |
| 14:12.43 | flamingspinach | wonder why it's amd64 only |
| 14:12.43 | rozie | yow: maybe other type of corruption |
| 14:12.56 | yow | rozie, thx for your reply, really appreciate it. yes, i'm now working on a 53GiB `dd' image. |
| 14:13.03 | msoos | dutchfish, so I am damn stuck, great :S |
| 14:13.15 | abrotman | flamingspinach: that site doesn't seem to track non-free |
| 14:13.23 | flamingspinach | I see... |
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| 14:13.40 | flamingspinach | it also doesn't show up in aptitude, but that's probably because there's no i386 binaries for it |
| 14:13.43 | flamingspinach | strange |
| 14:13.54 | nvz | aha! I think I found it /etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn ! |
| 14:13.59 | Wyzard | nvz: I wonder if removing the acpi-support package would help |
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| 14:14.18 | dutchfish | msoos, wich arch? |
| 14:14.27 | yow | rozie, i don't think there's any other type of corruption. i've been using sda5 without any problem before. But, i `mkfs.ext3 -j /dev/sda5' yesterday. |
| 14:14.28 | msoos | dutchfish, amd64. I think I can reproduce on armel |
| 14:14.29 | Wyzard | nvz: Or check whether you can configure policykit so that users don't have permission to suspend/hibernate |
| 14:14.29 | msoos | sec |
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| 14:15.20 | msoos | dutchfish, right, reproducible on armel. I *love* this bug! |
| 14:15.23 | yow | rozie, so, sda5 is empty now, according testdisk on the `dd' image, which is correct but i want to recover my old data (data before mkfs.ext3) |
| 14:15.41 | nvz | Wyzard: I normally wouldt care but I have medical issues and last thing I need is my computer doing shit I don't want it to just because I can't get my hands to work right. These damn hotkeys don't require me to press enter first. heh |
| 14:15.44 | dutchfish | msoos, http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2011-04/msg33125.html |
| 14:15.47 | msoos | dutchfish, Also, I cannot debug it easily, as collect2 is calling "ld", and gdb doesn't give me a stacktrace |
| 14:16.05 | yow | rozie or in fact anyone in the room, do any of you know that if testdisk is the right tool for what im trying to do now? |
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| 14:16.19 | dutchfish | msoos, breakpoints? |
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| 14:16.42 | Wyzard | yow: testdisk looks like it's for reconstructing partition tables, which isn't what you want |
| 14:16.53 | msoos | dutchfish, thanks for that link! I now know what to give to the client: please just tell FSF to fix ld ;) |
| 14:16.58 | Wyzard | yow: Your partition layout hasn't changed, you just hosed the *contents* of one partition |
| 14:17.11 | msoos | dutchfish, but on a more serious note, yes, so the guy got the stacktrace there |
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| 14:17.24 | dutchfish | msoos, i am no dev, just a user. But we have bugreporting ;) |
| 14:17.25 | msoos | dutchfish, not much to do there, just wait... |
| 14:17.37 | nvz | tests the sleep button again |
| 14:17.38 | yow | Wyzard, do u mean what im doing is to recover the lost "Superblocks"? |
| 14:18.06 | yow | Wyzard, what should i do, what tool/command should i use then? photorec? |
| 14:18.11 | Wyzard | msoos: collect2 is one of the gcc stages, and gcc probably has an option to make it print the command lines it's using, so you can find out exactly how it's running ld and then run that command directly |
| 14:18.37 | Wyzard | yow: Superblock and lots of other filesystem bookkeeping data |
| 14:18.45 | nvz | shouts obscenities like he has tourettes |
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| 14:19.07 | nkuttler | is there some tool that generates calendar pdfs for, say, 1-3 months on one page? |
| 14:19.07 | Wyzard | yow: Photorec would help to recover files of specific types that it supports, but it won't recover your whole filesystem intact |
| 14:19.10 | yow | Wyzard, the partition was ext3 |
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| 14:19.41 | yow | Wyzard, so how can i recover the ext3 FS? |
| 14:20.09 | Wyzard | yow: I doubt there's anything that'll give you all the data back just as it was |
| 14:20.09 | yow | Wyzard, in fact, the partition contained various type of data/files |
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| 14:20.48 | Wyzard | yow: photorec would be worth a try though |
| 14:20.54 | yow | Wyzard, do u mean after one accidentally `mkfs.ext3 -j' a partition, there's no way to recover the partition/FS? |
| 14:21.09 | msoos | Wyzard, oh, well, yes, but I give up at this stage.. :( The bug has been reported, it will be fixed one day, I guess |
| 14:21.31 | zinx | yow: you can try scalpel / photorec |
| 14:21.54 | zinx | yow: but neither will recovery everything |
| 14:22.09 | Wyzard | yow: Essentially, yes, because all the places where ext3 stores its bookkeeping information have been overwritten by mkfs.ext3 putting new "blank" bookeeping information in those places |
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| 14:22.17 | guzu | hello all |
| 14:22.28 | zinx | yeah, if you used the default options both times, the filesystem no longer has any file information |
| 14:22.31 | guzu | how can i see the available versions of some packages? |
| 14:22.44 | Wyzard | guzu: apt-cache policy <packagename> |
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| 14:22.49 | zinx | so the only real option is the programs that detect by content |
| 14:22.54 | greycat | [ 820.745020] sde1: rw=0, want=4294945536, limit=4278190026 |
| 14:22.56 | guzu | Wyzard, thank you |
| 14:23.01 | greycat | *headdesk* *cry* |
| 14:23.25 | yow | Wyzard, zinx & rozie: according to this very short post - http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/miscellaneous/30522-recovering-data-accidental-mkfs-ext-over-ext3-part.html The OP seemed to have made exactly the same mistake that I made but he managed to rescue the partition/Fs using testdisk (needs 8 hours?!). |
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| 14:24.10 | bzed | yow: testdisk rocks, but yes, it needs time and usually at least as much free diskspace (or even more!) as you had in use before |
| 14:24.30 | guzu | Wyzard, i'm, trying to install a certain version and i can't figure out how :( |
| 14:24.42 | zinx | yow: dunno, i figured the backup ones would have been overwritten |
| 14:24.56 | Wyzard | yow: that person canceled the new mkfs before it finished, which means it hadn't overwritten all the bookkeeping data yet |
| 14:25.22 | guzu | Wyzard, not the latest version |
| 14:25.27 | yow | bzed, i have a newly purchased hard disk which has 10x of 53 GiB, so, i hope space is not a problem for my problem |
| 14:25.33 | dutchfish | msoos, maybe not so relevant but still http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=422147 |
| 14:25.53 | yow | Wyzard, ic. i thought of that too... |
| 14:25.54 | guzu | Wyzard, how can i tell aptitude to install an older version? none is installed right now |
| 14:26.07 | guzu | or apt-get |
| 14:26.10 | Wyzard | guzu: Does the version you want show up in the "apt-cache policy" output? |
| 14:26.19 | guzu | yes |
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| 14:26.43 | Wyzard | guzu: With apt-get on the command line you can do "apt-get install <packagename>=<version>" IIRC |
| 14:26.55 | guzu | ah, ok, let me try it |
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| 14:27.05 | greycat | tries wget http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64_2.6.26-26lenny2_amd64.deb |
| 14:27.09 | Wyzard | guzu: In aptitude's interactive mode, if you open the package's info page, you can highlight one of the versions listed at the bottom and press + |
| 14:27.16 | greycat | maybe the lenny kernel will work... it worked on that OTHER box! |
| 14:27.47 | yow | Wyzard, zinx & rozie: actually, testdisk did find/detect tens of ext3 partitions which it says cannot be recovered, I'll put it to pastebin for you guys in a min. i don't know if this piece of info is useful or not |
| 14:27.50 | nvz | Alright I |
| 14:28.44 | nvz | blah.. alright, I've disabled acpi-support, acpid, /etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn ..etc.. and its still sleeping.. its apparently this "upowerd" that is started by dbus-daemon allowing it to do this |
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| 14:29.29 | nvz | I'm about to go back to using f'n potato or something.. heh |
| 14:29.35 | guzu | Wyzard, it worked with aptitude install <packagename>=<version> , thank you very much! |
| 14:29.41 | nvz | I hate all this automatic shit like you can't even possibly understand |
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| 14:30.55 | DammitJim | is there a utility I can use for a bash script to edit an XML file? |
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| 14:31.12 | yow | Wyzard, zinx & rozie: testdisk - detected partition (http://pastebin.com/VenrX5cM) |
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| 14:31.24 | Wyzard | nvz: yeah, the "free desktop" has lost a lot of the transparency it had when it was simpler and everything was done by hand-editing config files in /etc |
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| 14:31.41 | guiledazimba | Debian has a firewall interface? |
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| 14:31.42 | nkuttler | DammitJim: you want to use any of the other scripting languages that has an xml parser |
| 14:31.48 | guiledazimba | someone help-me |
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| 14:32.00 | Wyzard | nvz: which really just means there's a need for more documentation on how all this stuff works |
| 14:32.02 | nkuttler | guiledazimba: apt-cache search firewall gui ? |
| 14:32.03 | DammitJim | like what? |
| 14:32.04 | MarvinTheMartian | hi, sorry about before |
| 14:32.16 | flamingspinach | DammitJim: python? :) |
| 14:32.16 | webad_13 | could someone help me out with setting up wifi in /etc/network/interfaces when essid is hidden, but no key |
| 14:32.18 | nkuttler | DammitJim: python, perl, ruby, ... |
| 14:32.21 | DammitJim | aaaahhhhh |
| 14:32.25 | nvz | Wyzard: debian needs to add a check in the installer somewhere that asks if you are either a stupid newbie, or a grumpy old fart that knows how to configure a system, and enable/disable all this sentient crap accordingly |
| 14:32.32 | DammitJim | I've heard that with python you can even make ice cream! |
| 14:32.43 | yow | Wyzard, zinx & rozie: so, is the info useful? frankly, i'm rather confused by the info presented by testdisk as there are 6 columns of data for "Start" & "End" (cylinders?). why not 2 columns? |
| 14:32.48 | MarvinTheMartian | um, I need to get a package list for the packages in here -> debian-6.0.1a-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 14:33.04 | nkuttler | guiledazimba: please keep it in the channel |
| 14:33.06 | DammitJim | xmlstarlet looks interesting |
| 14:33.07 | flamingspinach | nvz: a grumpy old fart who knows how to configure a system doesn't need debian-installer :P |
| 14:33.14 | MarvinTheMartian | what should I download to see a package list for that disc (that doesn't need to be added to the base system) |
| 14:33.27 | DammitJim | but I'm going to dig into python |
| 14:33.31 | nvz | flamingspinach: haha |
| 14:33.55 | Wyzard | yow: I've never used testdisk so I don't know how to interpret that output... but you certainly don't really have 19 ext3 partitions, and it says they can't be recovered anyway |
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| 14:34.38 | rozie | yow: if you have the copy, and just want to recover files, not restore partiton (which I guess is impossible) try photorec program from testdisk package |
| 14:34.39 | nvz | I just get pissed off cause I spent years reading manuals to learn how to do shit the way I wanted.. now everything happens automatically and now I have to read MORE manuals to UNDO shit that happens for me.. and I dont want ANYTHING happening automatically I took all that time learning to do it MANUALLY and I'd like to keep doing it that way.. |
| 14:34.41 | jackweb | Hello! I have a netbook with Debian; my driver is ath9k, I use `iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M`; there is a problem - some websites are being loaded slow, some ping packets lose; what's wrong? |
| 14:34.43 | Wyzard | nvz: I don't mind it being enabled by default... the problem is that if we want to turn it off, we *don't* know how to configure the system in this case |
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| 14:35.24 | dekar | I've been using debian for years and just realized I don't understand the repositories |
| 14:35.25 | Wyzard | nvz: Doing reasonable things automatically isn't bad though -- if I plug in a flash drive, I'd like it to be mounted automatically rather than having to open a root shell to do it |
| 14:35.29 | nvz | Wyzard: thats what I'm getting at.. why the hell should I have to read a manual to disable crap I never wanted to begin with? so yeah.. I have a problem with it all being installed and enabled |
| 14:35.36 | dekar | why is vlc in security, but _not_ in main? |
| 14:35.39 | stew | nvz: are you doing an expert install? |
| 14:35.45 | dekar | same for openjdk? |
| 14:35.56 | stew | judd: versions openjdk-6-jre |
| 14:35.57 | judd | Package openjdk-6-jre on i386 -- lenny: 6b11-9.1; squeeze: 6b18-1.8.3-2; lenny-security: 6b18-1.8.7-2~lenny1; squeeze-security: 6b18-1.8.7-2~squeeze1; wheezy: 6b18-1.8.7-2; sid: 6b18-1.8.7-3; experimental: 6b22-1.10.1-1 |
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| 14:35.59 | Wyzard | nvz: For most people, suspend/hibernate is useful and desirable in the same way, so I think it's OK for it to be enabled by default |
| 14:36.03 | yow | Wyzard & rozie, thx. ok, i'll try photorec. btw, i've never used photorec before. do u know any site which provide some simple tutorials, examples, commands samples? |
| 14:36.07 | stew | judd: versions vlc |
| 14:36.10 | judd | Package vlc on i386 -- lenny: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2; lenny-security: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny3; squeeze: 1.1.3-1squeeze2; squeeze-security: 1.1.3-1squeeze5; wheezy: 1.1.7-3; sid: 1.1.9-1+b1 |
| 14:36.18 | stew | dekar: both seem to be in main |
| 14:36.25 | nvz | Wyzard: I'd rather do it manually... I may be in church and that thumbdrive might have the preacher's daughter nude on the root dir.. and I dont want that poping up on my screen right then and there.. heh |
| 14:36.37 | rozie | dekar: change repo, probably |
| 14:36.37 | Wyzard | hehe |
| 14:36.39 | dekar | stew, it's not for me |
| 14:36.43 | jackweb | like now; I had a log on IRC |
| 14:36.43 | dekar | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=vlc&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=main |
| 14:36.48 | guiledazimba | nkuttler: i'm downloading debian to try configure a firewall so later a will use apt-cache search firewall gui.. but you know one? to me look until download completes? |
| 14:36.52 | nvz | I don't go to church or screw preachers daughters.. but I do work on my computer sometimes and dont wand shit poping up in my way until I'm ready for it |
| 14:36.59 | abrotman | it's the first link ? |
| 14:37.00 | stew | dekar: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy vlc" |
| 14:37.01 | nvz | If I did I'd use windows |
| 14:37.09 | jackweb | s/log/lag/ |
| 14:37.34 | abrotman | he's asking why it shows as [security] instead of [main] |
| 14:38.55 | stew | and the judd output agrees with http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vlc.html |
| 14:39.17 | webad_13 | one question... I tried configuring my network essid with : wpa-ssid Name , but this did not work... Instead: wireless-essid Name , worked... Most of the manuals online use wpa, so what is the thing here, does anyone know |
| 14:39.46 | webad_13 | this is all within /etc/network/interfaces.bak-0 |
| 14:39.52 | webad_13 | this is all within /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:40.02 | Wyzard | webad_13: I'd use NetworkManager rather than configuring it manually in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:40.12 | dekar | are security updates exclusive to the security repo or will they hit main as well? |
| 14:40.16 | webad_13 | Wyzard: I don't like running extras :) |
| 14:40.23 | stew | dekar: they move to main when we do the next point release |
| 14:41.08 | webad_13 | Wyzard: I managed to configure it but the command with wpa-ssid was not working |
| 14:41.13 | nkuttler | guiledazimba: never used a gui for that |
| 14:41.23 | dekar | kay, I guess I was wrong - the older vlc shows up in aptitude after I removed it |
| 14:41.25 | webad_13 | instead it requires wireless-essid command |
| 14:41.43 | guiledazimba | only in command prompt? |
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| 14:42.13 | dekar | why don't I see the package from main here though? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/vlc |
| 14:42.21 | msoos | dutchfish, thanks for that gcc bug report |
| 14:42.22 | dekar | it just shows security |
| 14:43.30 | stew | dekar: you really don't want the older version, it has security bugs |
| 14:43.41 | stew | dekar: you can see it here better: http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vlc.html |
| 14:43.42 | webad_13 | Wyzard: could it be that wpa_suppliant does not support WEP |
| 14:44.10 | dekar | I know I don't want it, I was confused by it not showing up though |
| 14:44.44 | guiledazimba | nkuttler: to implement a firewall in debian, i could download only the cd-rw image or the dvd image? |
| 14:44.44 | Wyzard | webad_13: hmm... I've configured wpa_supplicant manually once, but I don't remember whether I was using WEP or WPA at the time |
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| 14:45.37 | Wyzard | webad_13: Is this a laptop? |
| 14:45.43 | webad_13 | it is |
| 14:45.58 | Wyzard | webad_13: What will you do when you go somewhere else and want to connect to a different wireless network? |
| 14:46.02 | webad_13 | and network is hidden, registered macs only, with web interface for login |
| 14:46.25 | webad_13 | Wyzard: good point |
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| 14:46.55 | webad_13 | Wyzard: well, right now there is just one place where I use wireless - I use cable mostly |
| 14:47.02 | webad_13 | so it can work for now |
| 14:47.02 | Wyzard | webad_13: You're creating a lot of extra work for yourself by not using NetworkManager (or something similar, like wicd) |
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| 14:48.34 | webad_13 | Wyzard: is wicid command line? |
| 14:48.40 | webad_13 | Wyzard: I am not using X |
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| 14:49.13 | babilen | webad_13: It has a nice curses interfaces (wicd-curses) -- http://screenshots.debian.net/package/wicd-curses |
| 14:49.14 | Wyzard | Text-only on a laptop? |
| 14:49.17 | Wyzard | That's unusual :-) |
| 14:49.24 | babilen | Wyzard: It's webad_13 :) |
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| 14:49.37 | _KaszpiR_ | anyone used SSD disks with debian? |
| 14:49.44 | _KaszpiR_ | especially Intel X25 |
| 14:49.50 | webad_13 | :):):) |
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| 14:50.01 | Wyzard | I haven't used wicd, but I don't think NetworkManager can be controlled from a CLI |
| 14:50.09 | babilen | _KaszpiR_: I wouldn't be surprised, but I can not give you absolute numbers. |
| 14:50.19 | guiledazimba | to implement a firewall in debian, i could download only the cd-rw image or the dvd image? |
| 14:50.35 | babilen | Wyzard: There is some rudimentary (i.e. unusable) cli interface to nm ... |
| 14:50.45 | pipeline | _KaszpiR_: Alignment is basically voodoo. The only special thing you need to do for an SSD is set it to be non-rotational media in /sys/block/$DEVICE/queue/rotational |
| 14:50.47 | Wyzard | babilen: nm-tool just displays status, it doesn't let you change anything |
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| 14:50.54 | babilen | guiledazimba: You basically just need the netinstall and iptables |
| 14:51.00 | pipeline | _KaszpiR_: i.e. add "echo 0 > blah blah/rotational" in /etc/rc.local |
| 14:51.03 | Wyzard | pipeline: Shouldn't that be detected automatically? |
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| 14:51.10 | babilen | Wyzard: cnetworkmanager |
| 14:51.25 | Wyzard | ah, good, I didn't know about that |
| 14:51.27 | rozie | Wyzard: network manager can be controled from cli |
| 14:51.28 | pipeline | Wyzard: mmm wasn't last time I looked at it. If it is autodetected, I just gave harmless but useless advice :) |
| 14:51.30 | rozie | cnetworkmanager |
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| 14:52.00 | rozie | oh. missed babilen message |
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| 14:52.19 | babilen | Thou shalt not miss my messages! |
| 14:52.22 | guiledazimba | babilen: tanks ;) |
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| 14:53.01 | rozie | babilen: please forgive me |
| 14:53.13 | babilen | rozie: sure (I was joking if that wasn't obvious) |
| 14:53.14 | quant | hello, just installed Wheeyz Xfce and 2.6.38-2 seems to have problems with my ATI card and the screen goes blank while booting, any suggestions on how to get my system operational, please? |
| 14:53.27 | rozie | babilen: was joking too |
| 14:53.44 | babilen | quant: Take it to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net which is the channel for wheezy/sid users |
| 14:53.48 | _KaszpiR_ | I was thinking about SSD disks for a few hours now |
| 14:53.58 | rozie | you sounded like a priest |
| 14:54.01 | _KaszpiR_ | and i'm puzzled between the size and speed |
| 14:54.01 | quant | I can't join that channel, it's invite only |
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| 14:54.23 | rozie | quant: try to disable kms |
| 14:54.33 | quant | rozie: how? |
| 14:54.35 | _KaszpiR_ | 120GB SSD is just a bit below |
| 14:54.42 | _KaszpiR_ | yet the speed: |
| 14:54.42 | _KaszpiR_ | /dev/md1: |
| 14:54.43 | _KaszpiR_ | Timing buffer-cache reads: 38448 MB in 2.00 seconds = 19268.18 MB/sec |
| 14:54.43 | _KaszpiR_ | Timing buffered disk reads: 706 MB in 3.01 seconds = 234.86 MB/sec |
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| 14:55.04 | _KaszpiR_ | its just insane |
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| 14:55.29 | babilen | quant: On irc.oftc.net |
| 14:55.40 | rozie | quant: options radeon modeset=0 in /etc/modeprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf |
| 14:55.47 | babilen | rozie: That being said: You probably run into a KMS ^^^ :) |
| 14:55.56 | babilen | ENICK, argh :) |
| 14:56.03 | quant | ty, both |
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| 14:56.26 | quant | rozie: what will that do, by the way? |
| 14:56.36 | rozie | it will disable KMS |
| 14:56.41 | babilen | quant: It will disable KMS (kernel mode setting) |
| 14:56.47 | quant | ty |
| 14:56.57 | babilen | quant: Are you using fglrx or radeon right now? |
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| 14:57.41 | quant | babilen: it's a fresh install |
| 14:57.42 | rozie | I had the issues with old radeon card (M6, mobile version of radeon 7000) because of KMS (free driver) |
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| 14:57.59 | rozie | quant: what card exactly? |
| 14:58.06 | quant | hd 3650 |
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| 14:58.26 | rozie | well... you probably will want fglrx |
| 14:58.28 | dvs | Radeon 7000? |
| 14:58.35 | dvs | oh, not HD |
| 14:58.37 | babilen | quant: You might also have udev related problems, but please come to #debian-next (deleting /run would solve those) -- I would also recommend to install firmware-linux-nonfree and libgl1-mesa-dri (try that first, before playing with KMS) |
| 14:58.46 | rozie | but first try to make it run |
| 14:59.01 | babilen | ah, HD 3650, yeah, use fglrx -- /msg dpkg fglrx dkms |
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| 14:59.14 | guzu | Wyzard, if there's a greater package version installed, will the =<version> option force a replacement? |
| 14:59.21 | quant | I can't install anything for I can't boot anything :) |
| 14:59.31 | greycat | OK, I am apparently too stupid to make a 2.6 kernel work. I give up, for today. I have moved the SCSI cables back over to the original Debian 3.1 box where they were half-working. Booted it up, and it found ALL SIX OF THE DEVICES and MOUNTED THEM, so I'm content for now. |
| 14:59.38 | rozie | quant: disable KMS for now and let us now if it helped |
| 14:59.55 | greycat | I couldn't get the lenny kernel to boot at all, even with custom grub hackery. I couldn't get the devices to work consistently under 2.6.38. It's all a disaster. |
| 15:00.19 | Wyzard | guzu: Probably, but I haven't tried it |
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| 15:00.24 | quant | rozie: so press 'e' during boot and just type that option? |
| 15:00.33 | guzu | Wyzard, ok, thank you |
| 15:00.57 | greycat | I'm thinking that maybe a week of tape backups would be indicated as well. If I can get Karl to order enough tapes. |
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| 15:01.44 | babilen | quant: yes, add it to the kernel command line |
| 15:01.45 | Wyzard | greycat: You're trying to install 2.6.38 on a system that currently doesn't use a 2.6.x kernel at all? |
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| 15:01.55 | LiohAu | how can i debug a mail not being sent on a server ? |
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| 15:02.00 | LiohAu | where should i look first ? |
| 15:02.12 | karlpinc | LiohAu: In /var/log/mail.log* |
| 15:02.14 | greycat | No. I tried to install a brand new Debian 6.0 system on a brand new piece of hardware and then move four physical SCSI devices (2 tape drives and 2 RAID cabinets) over to it. |
| 15:02.21 | greycat | It failed catastrophically. |
| 15:02.32 | LiohAu | karlpinc: empty :( |
| 15:02.42 | babilen | LiohAu: How do you send the mail? |
| 15:02.59 | LiohAu | mail.err mail.info mail.log mail.warn are all empty |
| 15:03.01 | quant | babilen: radeon modeset=0, right? |
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| 15:03.25 | LiohAu | babilen: actually it's a jenkins plugin which send it |
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| 15:03.35 | greycat | So then I tried the 2.6.38 backport kernel on the brand new machine, and that failed catastrophically. Then I tried to install the lenny kernel and boot that, and I couldn't even boot it. |
| 15:03.44 | babilen | quant: boot with "nomodeset" |
| 15:03.50 | babilen | quant: http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
| 15:03.57 | greycat | So finally I reconfigured the IPs, moved the cables back to the Debian 3.1 box, and left it. |
| 15:04.03 | quant | babilen, rozie ok, trying now |
| 15:04.06 | quant | cheers |
| 15:04.16 | babilen | LiohAu: What is that and how does it send mails? |
| 15:04.19 | karlpinc | greycat: It's awfully hard to say unless we have details about the errors/what you tried/etc. |
| 15:04.33 | Wyzard | greycat: "failed catastrophically" as in kernel panic? Or booted and ran successfully, but just didn't mount the devices? |
| 15:04.49 | babilen | LiohAu: Is your local MTA conigured and able to send mails? (i.e. does exim4 handle mails correctly) Is the jenkins plugin even using a local MTA? |
| 15:05.02 | karlpinc | greycat: And since you've given up already there's little point in discussion. |
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| 15:05.24 | rozie | well, there's a file and I gave you full details |
| 15:05.31 | greycat | Wyzard: There are 6 SCSI "disks" -- 2 on one cabinet and 4 on the other. Each of the 2.6.x kernels that I managed to boot only found 5 devices (it missed the second disk from the cabinet with only 2). Out of those 5, it was a random crapshoot every time I booted to see which ones would fail to show in /dev ... |
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| 15:05.51 | greycat | ... which ones would be mounted read-only, which ones would show up with the wrong size and force me to echo 1 > /sys/block/sdx/device/rescan ... |
| 15:06.05 | LiohAu | babilen: jenkins (previously named hudson) is a java tool for continuous integration, for the MTA part i don't know at all, how can i test it ? |
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| 15:06.46 | karlpinc | greycat: |
| 15:07.09 | sirch | allo all, can anyone confirm that ftp.uk.debian.org is down? |
| 15:07.24 | karlpinc | greycat: (oops). Sounds like it could be controller/driver. It'd be interesting to know the pciid, and to look in the kernel docs for the driver/scsi stuff to see if there's any notes regarding the devices. |
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| 15:08.41 | greycat | maybe tomorrow I'll summon the energy to attempt a Debian 5.0 install on the same hardware and see if that works. Because this whole disaster is suspiciously similar to a problem I had on a *different* server with the same kind of RAID cabinet, when I "upgraded" from Debian 5.0 to 6.0. Bug #625738 |
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| 15:09.14 | greycat | The workaround on that system was to boot the Lenny kernel with a custom grub setup, but I was unable to manage it on the fresh-installed-Debian-6.0 box. Maybe my GRUB-fu is weak. |
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| 15:09.47 | LiohAu | babilen, karlpinc: actually when i do 'echo "test mail content" | mail -s "Test" email@gmail.com' i don't receive anything |
| 15:09.53 | karlpinc | LiohAu: Anything that sends mail is either going to talk to a mail MTA (via SMTP, or LMTP or some such) or (unlikely) drop stuff into a spool directly that's specific to some particular MTA software. If you don't tell it your MTA and what protocol to use then it's not going to be able to deliver mail, unless it uses the standard defaults in which case I'd expect there to be logs at minimim indicating that your mail server started and is listening. |
| 15:10.40 | karlpinc | LiohAu: Perhaps you don't have a local MTA installed/configured? |
| 15:11.18 | LiohAu | maybe i installed this server some month ago, i don't remember if i put one, but if i did i maybe used exim (since the name sound familiar) |
| 15:11.40 | karlpinc | LiohAu: You could also look in your apache logs (or whereever jenkins is invoked) and see if there are errors there. Logs are your friend. "tail -f" is your friend when looking at log output. Pipeing through grep is useful too. |
| 15:12.35 | LiohAu | i think it's more the MTA not configured/installed thing, since even the command line mail does nothing |
| 15:12.42 | karlpinc | LiohAu: exim4 (I think) is the default MTA. (I prefer postfix myself, but if your doing basic things it does not matter.) You could try to dpkg-reconfigure the MTA package. |
| 15:12.44 | babilen | LiohAu: You might want to configure exim4 to handle mails correctly. It can, for example, act as a smarthost. Run "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" and give your user credentials in /etc/exim4/passwd.client |
| 15:13.41 | LiohAu | i receive my mail from google apps, so i had to configure something other than the dns MX field right ? |
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| 15:14.13 | karlpinc | greycat: In squeeze you can still use grub-legacy instead of grub (which is grub2). The same workaround could then work, and hope that grub2 is fixed for wheezy if there's a problem there. |
| 15:14.21 | babilen | LiohAu: Also read /usr/share/doc/exim4-config/README.Debian.gz and "man 5 exim4-config_files (in particular the passwd.client settings) |
| 15:14.54 | greycat | karlpinc: I'm not saying grub has a bug. I might simply be too stupid to set up a working grub.cfg stanza to boot a kernel that can't use squeeze's udev. |
| 15:15.18 | babilen | LiohAu: Ah, looks as if you want to configure exim4 as a real mailserver, not as a smarthost. Reconfigure exim4 with the command given above and provide the requested information. |
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| 15:23.03 | tuxcrafter | ftp.uk.debian.org is having issues |
| 15:23.19 | LiohAu | babilen: i didn't reconfigure exim yet, but in logs i see : "R=nonlocal: Mailing to remote domains not supported" |
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| 15:24.13 | babilen | LiohAu: Yeah, reconfigure exim4 |
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| 15:26.07 | LiohAu | YOUHOU |
| 15:26.08 | LiohAu | it works |
| 15:26.09 | LiohAu | then |
| 15:26.12 | LiohAu | thanks* |
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| 15:27.03 | babilen | heh, :-D |
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| 15:29.44 | treitter | does anyone know why nmcli would see all the wireless networks I expect (including 3G), but nm-applet just says "invalid" for both wired and wireless? |
| 15:29.52 | treitter | nmcli just fails when trying to set a network with "** (process:3687): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'State' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/1: (19) Method "Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist" |
| 15:30.04 | treitter | but it can successfully join my network at home (which it's had in its settings for a long time) |
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| 15:30.34 | treitter | this is on unstable with some experimental packages (though none related to network manager) |
| 15:30.49 | treitter | auto-eth0 works fine (which is how I'm connected now) |
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| 15:33.42 | linduxed | my /var/log/messages is about 800M large, is there a reason for me not to just empty it? |
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| 15:34.19 | valdyn | linduxed: if its that large then you should debug the error first, probably |
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| 15:35.01 | linduxed | valdyn: it's years of years of stuff saved in it |
| 15:35.11 | petemc | why isnt it being rotated? |
| 15:35.26 | valdyn | linduxed: that is the bug |
| 15:36.27 | linduxed | valdyn: well i need to make some space in /var, can i at least nuke all but the last 1000 lines? |
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| 15:36.48 | valdyn | linduxed: you can nuke it completely |
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| 15:37.15 | valdyn | linduxed: since you already know the bug is related to rotating of that logfile, the contents are probably irrelevant for you |
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| 16:02.28 | ner0x | I noticed adding a VPN isn't disabled, do I need a special package to be able to connect to a VPN? |
| 16:03.18 | justin_ | ner0x: apt-cache search network-manager vpn |
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| 16:09.14 | ner0x | vpnc-gnome or openvpn-gnome? |
| 16:09.19 | ner0x | justin_: ^ |
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| 16:11.15 | jbardin | hello |
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| 16:11.36 | jbardin | is it possible to open a file descriptor thats been deleted, but is still open by a process? |
| 16:11.41 | jbardin | and then even read from it? |
| 16:12.08 | wols_ | ner0x: that depends on your VPN. you should know what kind of VPN you have/use |
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| 16:13.23 | ner0x | Hrm. I'm not entire sure what kind. I'll have to check it out. |
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| 16:14.33 | ner0x | Alright, and if I wished to connect to a remote desktop, what is the client? |
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| 16:16.21 | quant | rozie: I've put 'nomodeset' but I says it doesn't recognize that command (sorry for asking here again, but debian-next doesn't answer) |
| 16:17.19 | wols_ | quant: who or what said that? the kernel just ignores stuff it doesn't understand |
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| 16:17.56 | rozie | quant: you are still trying to disable KMS? |
| 16:18.19 | quant | rozie: yes, or do whatever to install 2.6.32-5 or 2.6.38-8 which I know work with my hardware |
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| 16:18.43 | wols_ | quant: did you install .38 and got a black picture? |
| 16:18.57 | quant | wols_: yes, on wheezy |
| 16:19.03 | rozie | quant: run in rescue (text) mode |
| 16:19.11 | quant | rozie: same thing, blank screen |
| 16:19.25 | wols_ | quant: what videocard? |
| 16:19.31 | rozie | ahm. does ssh works? |
| 16:19.46 | quant | rozie: I just want to trz to install linux-firmware-nonfree or fglrx perhaps |
| 16:19.58 | quant | wols_: radeon hd 3650 |
| 16:20.12 | wols_ | quant: yes, you need the firmware. can you rescue boot? |
| 16:20.14 | quant | rozie: I don't know, the screen appears blank :) |
| 16:20.22 | wols_ | fglrx won't help. you need the firmware |
| 16:20.26 | rozie | quant: try to connect on port 22... |
| 16:20.36 | wols_ | quant: can you access the debian harddisk any way? |
| 16:20.36 | quant | rozie: right, and I do that by..._ |
| 16:20.45 | rozie | ssh <IP> |
| 16:20.55 | wols_ | quant: by pointing a ssh client towards it. |
| 16:21.09 | rozie | or telnet <IP> 22 (just to check if port is open) |
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| 16:21.17 | quant | rozie: it's my desktop, this at the moment is run from a live Mint DVD |
| 16:21.25 | wols_ | rozie: you are grasping at straws |
| 16:21.34 | rozie | quant: OK, thats great! |
| 16:21.38 | wols_ | quant: so chroot into your debian installation and install that firmware |
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| 16:21.52 | quant | um, ok... how? |
| 16:21.54 | rozie | quant: edit /etc/modeprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf |
| 16:22.02 | quant | ok, sec |
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| 16:22.19 | rozie | (it's the way to disable KMS only) |
| 16:22.27 | wols_ | rozie: just tell him to install the firmware. I had the exact same problem with my radeon and .38 |
| 16:22.53 | wols_ | that way he hasn't to reenable kms again when he gets it all worked out. and he needs firmware anyways for X |
| 16:23.23 | rozie | not sure what kernel he's got now |
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| 16:23.41 | quant | rozie: 2.6.38-2 |
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| 16:24.07 | rozie | on what partition do you have this system now? |
| 16:24.11 | rozie | and is it mounted? |
| 16:24.32 | rozie | this system = Debian |
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| 16:24.41 | rozie | now = running from mint |
| 16:25.13 | quant | rozie: 2.6.35-22 now |
| 16:25.24 | quant | rozie: not mounted, I presume |
| 16:25.31 | rozie | mount it. |
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| 16:26.38 | quant | rozie: /dev/sda4 it is... I do mount /dev/sda4 but to where_ |
| 16:26.39 | blischalk | does debian support both useradd and adduser? |
| 16:26.48 | wols_ | quant: /mnt |
| 16:26.51 | quant | sorry for bad spelling, bad keymap atm :) |
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| 16:27.16 | wols_ | blischalk: obviously |
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| 16:27.25 | rozie | just mount it, mountpoint is irrevelant |
| 16:27.26 | johnnywengluu | hi |
| 16:27.32 | johnnywengluu | why cant i send to ubuntu channel |
| 16:27.36 | johnnywengluu | it says "cannot send to channel" |
| 16:27.47 | rozie | mkdir /mnt/mysystem |
| 16:27.57 | wols_ | johnnywengluu: we don't know. you are probably quieted cause you did something stupid, so an op made you stop spamming to the channel |
| 16:27.58 | rozie | mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/mysystem |
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| 16:28.01 | rozie | will be fine |
| 16:28.10 | johnnywengluu | wols_: no .. i just logged into that channel |
| 16:28.12 | blischalk | wols_: I didn't realize it did. I thought some linux distros use one and others use the other. |
| 16:28.40 | wols_ | johnnywengluu: as I said: we don't know and we cannot help you with it. you are off topic here. this channel is for debian only |
| 16:28.51 | johnnywengluu | okay then |
| 16:29.05 | johnnywengluu | could someone try "open http://www.google.com" on the console? |
| 16:29.19 | johnnywengluu | and tell me if it opens a browser entering google? |
| 16:29.22 | RichiH | how can i rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available ? |
| 16:29.29 | wols_ | johnnywengluu: please stop. we don't support ubuntu in any way shape or form. go to #ubuntu |
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| 16:29.36 | rozie | johnnywengluu: what?! |
| 16:29.40 | johnnywengluu | wols_: im not talking about ubuntu now |
| 16:29.46 | johnnywengluu | could someone try "open http://www.google.com" on the console? |
| 16:29.58 | simonlnu | RichiH: dselect update |
| 16:30.01 | wols_ | johnnywengluu: you are not talking about debian either. so go away |
| 16:30.03 | simonlnu | johnnywengluu: no |
| 16:30.06 | johnny2k | links google.com |
| 16:30.10 | quant | rozie: did mount /dev/sda4 /mnt and I can't see it in /mnt now |
| 16:30.22 | johnnywengluu | simonlnu: i want to know if it works on debian |
| 16:30.28 | johnnywengluu | simonlnu: why are you so unfriendly |
| 16:30.33 | Bushmills | quant: read the error message after you did "mount...." |
| 16:30.39 | rozie | quant: unmount it, and make _exactly_ what I say |
| 16:31.01 | rozie | johnnywengluu: man open |
| 16:31.21 | quant | device is busy :) |
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| 16:31.34 | rozie | johnnywengluu: and stop ask for stupid things |
| 16:31.43 | rozie | s/ask/asking/ |
| 16:31.43 | johnnywengluu | rozie: stupid? |
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| 16:31.50 | rozie | yes. |
| 16:31.52 | johnnywengluu | rozie: hehe .. debian people |
| 16:32.05 | rozie | johnnywengluu: did you read "man open" as I asked you to? |
| 16:32.14 | simonlnu | johnnywengluu: why would it? you need to have gnustep installed. |
| 16:32.34 | johnnywengluu | rozie: maybe im not on linux |
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| 16:32.51 | johnnywengluu | never mind .. how rude you all are |
| 16:33.05 | rozie | (better to be rude, than...) |
| 16:33.11 | wols_ | simonlnu: it's part of console-tools |
| 16:33.11 | simonlnu | rude? you haven't seen rude. |
| 16:33.15 | Bushmills | pardon? more than 1100 people not having said anything, and now "all" are rude? |
| 16:33.39 | Bushmills | shifted perception of reality? |
| 16:33.41 | johnnywengluu | Bushmills: i said all as the folks that were rude |
| 16:33.56 | johnnywengluu | Bushmills: but now you are one of them =) |
| 16:33.58 | wols_ | can you people please ignore the troll? pretty please? |
| 16:34.04 | simonlnu | wols_: i'm wondering why a console app would open an url with an x based browser ;) |
| 16:34.04 | rozie | ops? |
| 16:34.07 | johnnywengluu | wols_: troll? |
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| 16:34.09 | simonlnu | !ops johnnywengluu |
| 16:34.09 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: simonlnu complains about: johnnywengluu |
| 16:34.23 | wols_ | simonlnu: it doesn't. it "open bash" suppsoedly opens a new vt |
| 16:34.28 | johnnywengluu | !ops simonlnu |
| 16:34.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: johnnywengluu complains about: simonlnu |
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| 16:34.44 | simonlnu | i bet this is why he got "cannot send to channel" |
| 16:34.46 | rozie | thanks |
| 16:34.52 | simonlnu | thank you |
| 16:34.57 | Bushmills | grin |
| 16:35.20 | wols_ | simonlnu: so dselect is still needed for debian maintenance? oh the horror! |
| 16:35.23 | Bushmills | why are ubuntu folks often so ... hopeless ..? |
| 16:35.31 | wols_ | simonlnu: can't dpkg itself manage "available"? |
| 16:35.49 | simonlnu | wols_: i don't use available. no idea if aptitude uses it or not |
| 16:35.55 | jelly | wols_: I find available to be best managed with "rm" these days |
| 16:35.59 | rozie | Bushmills: he wasn't ubuntu folk. it was "maybe not on linux" troll |
| 16:36.06 | RichiH | simonlnu: dselect is not installed, i can't install anything becuase that file is broken, apt-get update does not seem to recreate it |
| 16:36.13 | simonlnu | seems it does |
| 16:36.17 | jelly | !available |
| 16:36.17 | dpkg | If /var/lib/dpkg/available is corrupted (or generating warnings about illegal version numbers etc), "apt-cache dumpavail > /var/lib/dpkg/available && dpkg --update-avail /var/lib/dpkg/available". Alternatively, you can try "rm /var/lib/dpkg/available; dselect update". |
| 16:36.28 | RichiH | ta |
| 16:38.56 | simonlnu | open is also on mac os x, as well as gnustep (open.app), and console-tools |
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| 16:40.09 | quant | rozie: sudo mount /dev/sda4 mount: can't find /dev/sda4 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
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| 16:40.30 | simonlnu | um |
| 16:40.39 | ayanes | is any way to check which packages are depending of X library, in other words how many packages in the repo have depends: X-library in the control file |
| 16:41.00 | simonlnu | yes |
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| 16:41.24 | rozie | quant: pastebin output of mount command |
| 16:41.37 | quant | rozie: that's the whole thing up there |
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| 16:41.57 | rozie | that's not mount command |
| 16:42.28 | rozie | I'll ask second and last time: please do exactly what I say. no more, no less |
| 16:42.37 | simonlnu | quant: it's not clear, but that means (in this case) that your syntax is wrong |
| 16:42.40 | quant | rozie: ok, cool, tell me what to do... |
| 16:43.12 | rozie | mount |
| 16:43.19 | rozie | put result on pastebin |
| 16:43.25 | quant | k, sec |
| 16:44.18 | quant | rozie: http://paste.debian.net/117854 |
| 16:45.22 | rozie | mkdir /mnt/mysystem && sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/mysystem |
| 16:45.42 | rozie | mount | grep mysystem |
| 16:45.52 | rozie | show result of last command (here) |
| 16:46.07 | quant | rozie: mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/mysystem': Permission denied |
| 16:46.27 | rozie | sudo mkdir /mnt/mysystem && sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/mysystem |
| 16:47.01 | quant | rozie: /dev/sda4 on /mnt/mysystem type ext4 (rw) |
| 16:47.19 | rozie | sudo chroot /mnt/mysystem |
| 16:47.37 | rozie | now you're in your Debian system |
| 16:47.45 | rozie | feel free to install packages and so on |
| 16:48.04 | quant | rozie: cool, trying... thanks |
| 16:48.23 | quant | rozie: do you suggest linux-firmware package or kms off? |
| 16:49.05 | rozie | install this firmware (both free and non-free) |
| 16:49.18 | rozie | this won't break anything |
| 16:49.25 | quant | rozie: linux-firmware-nonfree and the other one is...? |
| 16:49.58 | jhutchins_lt | rozie: Won't quant need /proc and /dev? |
| 16:50.11 | wols_ | jhutchins_lt: not for a simple package installation? |
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| 16:50.26 | jhutchins_lt | aptitude tends to complain about not finding /dev |
| 16:50.34 | rozie | quant: firmware-linux-free |
| 16:51.06 | rozie | jhutchins_lt: to install firmware and edit files? I guess not. |
| 16:51.10 | quant | ok, trying that now |
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| 16:52.31 | rozie | as you are in chroot |
| 16:52.41 | simonlnu | and if s/he's installinf firmware, probably gonna whine about /sys and /proc too |
| 16:52.52 | rozie | edit this /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf too |
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| 16:53.24 | quant | ok, rebooting in a sec |
| 16:53.25 | rozie | simonlnu: do not panic... |
| 16:53.48 | simonlnu | i do not panic. i do not know the meaning of the word. |
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| 16:55.09 | simonlnu | this is panicking: "OMG @HGOUEE what what what are you doing !??!!?!?!" i don't do that ;). |
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| 16:58.05 | wols_ | simonlnu: firmware installs simply to /lib/firmware. why the whining? |
| 16:58.22 | simonlnu | extra scripts |
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| 16:58.44 | wols_ | silly debian |
| 16:58.52 | simonlnu | sometimes they do other things, like check /proc/mounts or other /proc stuff |
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| 17:00.20 | jelly | dpkg & debconf whine about /dev/pts |
| 17:00.20 | dpkg | jelly: I give up, what is it? |
| 17:00.28 | jelly | dpkg: not you, silly |
| 17:00.28 | dpkg | jelly: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 17:00.35 | jelly | dpkg: shut up! |
| 17:00.35 | dpkg | get lost, jerkoff |
| 17:00.50 | jelly | dpkg: DIE |
| 17:00.50 | dpkg | I'll murder you jelly! Slice you into bits and feed you to my children! |
| 17:00.59 | RichiH | dpkg: fork |
| 17:00.59 | dpkg | spoon! |
| 17:01.01 | simonlnu | dpkg has a mouth ... |
| 17:01.05 | RichiH | see? no children |
| 17:01.42 | stew | installing firmware will try to update the initramfs, which will want stuff like /dev /proc /sys available... |
| 17:02.02 | simonlnu | "may the fleas of a thousand caribou nest in your genitals" |
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| 17:18.45 | cusco | hi |
| 17:19.05 | cusco | Im having trouble configuring software: checking for ssl2_connect in -lssl... no |
| 17:19.14 | cusco | I have libssl-dev installed |
| 17:19.17 | cusco | what am I missing? |
| 17:19.40 | simonlnu | ssl2 is dead |
| 17:20.04 | simonlnu | update the source, or tell them to update |
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| 17:20.12 | cusco | its asterisk |
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| 17:20.56 | simonlnu | tell them to disable it, or get an update |
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| 17:21.51 | stew | cusco: why not use the precompiled asterisk that is in debian? |
| 17:22.29 | cusco_ | sorry, connection fell. I might not have catched your last messages |
| 17:22.36 | cusco_ | stew: asterisk 1.8 |
| 17:22.40 | cusco_ | is in unstable |
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| 17:23.33 | stew | cusco_: according to the debian changelog, the debian patch to fix this problem was accepted upstream and is included in 1.8.4 |
| 17:23.56 | cusco_ | ok... |
| 17:24.08 | stew | cusco_: is there a reason you are using the upstream source instead of backporting the .deb? |
| 17:24.17 | cusco_ | is that changelog in sid's package? |
| 17:24.24 | stew | yes |
| 17:24.56 | cusco | click click.. packages.debian.org ... |
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| 17:26.37 | edwin_quijada | Hi! I have a samba as PDC and i need that a few users can write into windows/ folder. It is possible ? |
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| 17:28.36 | cusco | found it stew thanks.. let me check with them asterisk folks |
| 17:28.42 | Cryp71c | How do I add unstable to the list of packages that squeeze will search through using aptitude? |
| 17:29.29 | abrotman | Cryp71c: you probably don't want to do that .. why not use packages.debian.org ? |
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| 17:30.17 | twobitsprite | so.... what's the security benefit of having visudo not accept the VISUAL env variable? I get that it doesn't allow people to set VISUAL to something like "/bin/bash"... but if they can edit the sudoers file, can't they just give themselves permission to run /bin/bash anyways? |
| 17:30.54 | guiledazimba | to implement a firewall what packets i choose to install in net install??? |
| 17:31.37 | twobitsprite | guiledazimba: I'm pretty sure iptables is instaled by default |
| 17:31.43 | Cryp71c | abrotman, well, I really just want one particular package. Chromium-browser. |
| 17:31.56 | abrotman | Cryp71c: weren't you askinga bout that a few hours ago ? |
| 17:31.57 | stew | twobitsprite: if you let them use whatever they want for VISUAL, they can do whatever they want if you let them run VISUAL as root |
| 17:31.58 | cusco | I should be ok by copy'ing the changes on that patch ... now it got me wondering about other patches in debian packages |
| 17:32.03 | Cryp71c | abrotman, nope? |
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| 17:32.37 | twobitsprite | stew: yeah, but they also have rights to edit the sudoers file, so it's at best a very minor inconvenience... |
| 17:32.47 | cusco | stew: a non related question, sorry i don't know this, but if I was to ask debian maintainers to also package a external module for asterisk to whom should I request? asterisk maintainer directly or is there a propper channel for that? |
| 17:32.51 | abrotman | Cryp71c: generally, you'd backport the package yourself .. it that's possible |
| 17:33.10 | stew | twobitsprite: if you are giving users the right to edit sudoers, then yes, all security is lost |
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| 17:33.25 | stew | cusco: /msg dpkg RFP |
| 17:33.35 | twobitsprite | stew: right... so I ask again, why limit visudo to only use a predefined list of editors? |
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| 17:33.50 | roger21 | hi, what is this tool again that allow to select high level packages like "destop", web server" and so on ? |
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| 17:33.56 | abrotman | roger21: tasksel |
| 17:34.07 | roger21 | abrotman, yep thanks |
| 17:34.09 | debiannn | hi |
| 17:34.26 | stew | twobitsprite: oh, i thought you were asking a different question, sorry |
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| 17:35.07 | debiannn | i have a zip file that when i double click it it opens millions of windows in my debian. I can extract its content. Is it a bug? |
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| 17:35.10 | twobitsprite | stew: np :P... mostly rhetorical, and a sort of "wth?" moment when reading the man page... |
| 17:35.12 | Igloo | Hi all |
| 17:35.18 | Igloo | I have sound working on my machine, but in a chroot "aplay -l" says "aplay: device_list:235: no soundcards found...". Can anyone help me getting sound working in the chroot please? |
| 17:35.30 | twobitsprite | maybe I'll file a bug |
| 17:35.46 | Bushmills | debiannn: your zip files doesn't open windows. your file association with zip files may |
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| 17:36.39 | debiannn | Bushmills: so is a problem of file-roller? |
| 17:36.51 | Known_problems | indicated using the apt-get or aptitude in debian? |
| 17:37.18 | cusco | thnks stew |
| 17:37.32 | Bushmills | debiannn: are those millions of windows file-roller windows? |
| 17:38.03 | themexbob | need help with Debian "wheezy" kernel 2.6.38-2 and ampache "Not able to play music via browser" |
| 17:38.17 | debiannn | Bushmills: i think so, the number of windows increses so fast that i can see it clear |
| 17:38.51 | Cryp71c | abrotman, I see that debian package, and I see on the right there is a list of files (a .dsc and two .tar.gz), but I'm unsure as to how to install or build those into a debian package for installation. |
| 17:39.02 | abrotman | !tell Cryp71c about ssb |
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| 17:39.10 | abrotman | good luck! |
| 17:39.11 | debiannn | Bushmills: then i go to tty and try to stop the window openning but i dont know which process i have to kill |
| 17:39.29 | Bushmills | debiannn: switch to console, and loop with top or htop or ps aux what those are |
| 17:39.32 | Bushmills | look |
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| 17:40.03 | debiannn | Bushmills: yes i looked at top but i cant see which process is. I will look again |
| 17:40.28 | Bushmills | htop maybe preferable as you can scroll through processes. or ps aux | less |
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| 17:40.59 | catsup | ps aux -H|less |
| 17:41.36 | themill | Cryp71c: chromium-browser is not going to be a "simple" sid backport, btw. You will also need to satisfy "Build-Depends: gyp (>= 0.1~svn917), libv8-dev (>= 3.1.8)" |
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| 17:41.57 | catsup | that will show you the parents of the process so you can find the source of the issue |
| 17:42.02 | Bushmills | ps auxf :) |
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| 17:42.51 | catsup | ps auxf seems to be the same thing but with superfluous punctuation |
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| 17:45.13 | twobitsprite | ohh, nevermind.. the problem is visudo, the problem is sudo whiping my VISUAL env variable before running visudo |
| 17:45.18 | twobitsprite | that makes more sense |
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| 17:45.27 | MarvinTheMartian | hi, if I use netinstall, when it downloads stuff, will that stuff stay in a way I can keep it on CD, so a reinstall will not need the net, if I choose the same packages ? |
| 17:46.41 | catsup | twobitsprite: Defaults env_keep += "EDITOR VISUAL" |
| 17:47.39 | catsup | MarvinTheMartian: you can save the archives to a cd |
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| 17:47.59 | somiaj | MarvinTheMartian: downloaded debian packaces are put in /var/cache/apt/archive |
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| 17:48.09 | webad_13 | how do you set impossible password hash for a user... is it just deleting a password with passwd -d username ? |
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| 17:48.50 | catsup | MarvinTheMartian: you will have to generate the package lists etc. when you save them, or else the network will have to be used -- there are packages that will generate this data |
| 17:49.02 | AimHere | The old-school way would have been to put '*' in the hash field by editing the passwd or shadow passwd file |
| 17:49.13 | somiaj | webad_13: why not just set that user to have a /bin/false login shell -- that way he just cannot logon. |
| 17:49.14 | AimHere | It's probably done with some new way now |
| 17:49.14 | justin_ | AimHere: that is what passwd -l does |
| 17:49.32 | justin_ | one should read the passwd man page |
| 17:49.47 | AimHere | I should, but I'm not on a Linux box right now |
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| 17:50.10 | AimHere | somiaj that's not great, because you can do other things with a valid password than just get a shell account |
| 17:50.14 | catsup | MarvinTheMartian: check out 'aptoncd' |
| 17:50.29 | AimHere | nonanonymous ftp for example would bypass whatever shell you're usign |
| 17:50.31 | AimHere | *using |
| 17:50.31 | MarvinTheMartian | thanks somiaj |
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| 17:50.40 | webad_13 | somiaj: because I don't want to disable login completely, just the password one |
| 17:50.47 | webad_13 | justin_: ty |
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| 17:52.02 | MarvinTheMartian | ok thats answered my question very well, thanks guys |
| 17:52.11 | catsup | MarvinTheMartian: you will still need the network if you just copy files out of /var/cache/apt/archive because there is more to copy |
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| 17:52.42 | catsup | MarvinTheMartian: 'aptoncd' does exactly what you want |
| 17:53.06 | catsup | just to be clear :) |
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| 17:58.42 | rubin110 | Hi, I'd like to try Gnome 3, I'm running Debian Sid. I've gotten a rule setup in /etc/apt/preferences.d/gnome to force a bunch of packages to experimental, but I don't see any gnome related packages pop up when I do an apt-get upgrade. |
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| 17:59.44 | streuner_ | rubin110: /msg dpkg gnome3 |
| 17:59.49 | simonlnu | Pin-PrioritY should be something like 1000 or 1001 |
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| 18:00.04 | rubin110 | Thanks. |
| 18:00.17 | simonlnu | but: that will break things if you're not careful |
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| 18:00.46 | rubin110 | streuner_: Totally doesn't help to answer my question. |
| 18:00.51 | streuner_ | Why does nobody read /topic? |
| 18:00.55 | rubin110 | Though I guess I didn't really ask a question. |
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| 18:01.08 | Known_problems | indicated using the apt-get or aptitude in debian? |
| 18:01.09 | DammitJim | man, one must have a lot of patience to work with sed in bash scripts |
| 18:01.22 | streuner_ | rubin110: well, <gnome3> expalins HOW many packages in Debian already... |
| 18:01.36 | streuner_ | s/expalins/explains/ |
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| 18:06.01 | gauge | I just found out nano has syntax highlighting! but what do I need to set, so my .*rc files are highlghted? |
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| 18:11.30 | simonlnu | gauge: read the comments in /etc/nanorc |
| 18:11.37 | simonlnu | min|dvir|us: google it |
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| 18:23.24 | gauge | simonlnu: I used the example nanorc, and I can clearly see the list of syntaxs nano supports at the end. what I don't know is which one it'd be. I do not know if the usual .conf file or rc file has syntax thats similar to PHP or C, or whatever. ATM I'm going through the list and tryign them one by one. |
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| 18:33.09 | simonlnu | gauge: you enable them all. it reads the file/file extension |
| 18:33.45 | gauge | K. |
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| 18:36.48 | djxcqtion | Wats up folks!! |
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| 18:38.33 | simonlnu | the sky |
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| 18:53.38 | rhenani | Hello guys I got the next error http://paste.debian.net/117866/ |
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| 18:54.05 | rhenani | It was suddenly, First time that i see it |
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| 18:55.50 | timo | rhenani: the server seems to be down. probably temporary |
| 18:56.41 | jhutchins_wk | It's been up & down today. |
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| 18:59.23 | rhenani | timo: Oh ok thanks |
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| 19:03.57 | rhenani | timo: It happened when I was getting update |
| 19:04.49 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 19:04.54 | rhenani | Hi |
| 19:04.55 | timo | don't worry, you didn't break anything |
| 19:05.14 | rhenani | timo: Oh Thanks again (^_^)(") |
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| 19:09.23 | filePeter | Is there a modprobe option to use ipv6 with privacy extentions? |
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| 19:10.13 | justin_ | filePeter: that would more likely be a sysctl option |
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| 19:14.42 | stew | filePeter: its not a module in debian kernels, but it is controllable via sysctl |
| 19:14.46 | filePeter | justin_: Indeed, but on lenny sysctl runs too early to set this option as the „key“ doesn’t exist so early. So I was thinking about a kernel-module option… |
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| 19:15.05 | filePeter | stew: Thank you. I had problems with that. |
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| 19:15.31 | simonlnu | 'extension' |
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| 19:16.05 | stew | filePeter: what problem? |
| 19:17.03 | stew | filePeter: you can run sysctl in a pre-up line in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:18.41 | filePeter | simonlnu: Ah. Thx. ;-) |
| 19:18.49 | filePeter | stew: That sounds good. I’ll try, thx. |
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| 19:19.46 | simonlnu | np, gl with that |
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| 19:27.04 | anigma | Can someone remind me on how you get per-file IO stats from the kernel? I know there are tools that can figure that out, but I never remember what they are. |
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| 19:29.26 | carandraug | Hi! I was wondering if there are any environment variables that should be used to find the right directory for log and temporary files? |
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| 19:32.18 | karlpinc | carandraug: Why? Generally you call tmpfile(3) or syslog(3) and let it worry about it. |
| 19:32.28 | edwin_quijada | there is a way that my users samba PDC can write into windows/ folder ? |
| 19:33.06 | carandraug | karlpinc, I was just writing a script in perl and thought about it. Until now, I always specified the dierctory myself |
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| 19:34.41 | carandraug | karlpinc, those are C functions |
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| 19:39.33 | nvz | YOU HAVE THE CAPSLOCK KEY ON |
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| 19:39.46 | nvz | yet somehow I ignore that for two password attempts |
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| 19:40.14 | nvz | I pried the capslock key off my old keyboard |
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| 19:40.42 | cahoot | remap it to some useful action? |
| 19:40.47 | nvz | I NEVER use that it doesn't kill me to HOLD THE SHIFT KEY WITH MY PINKY AND DOESNT EVEN SLOW DOWN MY TYPING |
| 19:41.10 | nvz | cahoot: thats actually a brilliant idea that I hadn't ever considered |
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| 19:42.13 | amphi | it makes a handy control key, or mod4 on keyboards that lack it |
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| 19:43.40 | bernard__ | hi |
| 19:43.46 | webad13 | how can I append text file in place... for example: sed r filename1 -i filename2, does not append contents of filename1 to filename2.. If I remove -i it is displayed correctly on the terminal |
| 19:44.04 | EagleScreen | hello |
| 19:44.06 | cahoot | cat >> ? |
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| 19:44.58 | nvz | well my old keyboard was an EX 100 http://www.getitnow.gr/MEDIA/content_CustomProductCatalog/m1040954pp_LOGITECH-EX-1440.jpg |
| 19:45.01 | webad13 | cahoot: I was more wondering with sed |
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| 19:45.29 | nvz | I had dropped that and stuffed it in bags and cp for years, its all kinda twisted like a screw and has numerous keys missing |
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| 19:45.45 | nvz | but I loved it.. it used a Fn key to activate those stupid f'n MM keys |
| 19:45.56 | ner0x | Everytime I try to connect to my VPN I get a "VPN can not connect, needs Secrets" or something similar. |
| 19:46.00 | ner0x | Is this a common issue? Using PPTP |
| 19:46.13 | twobitsprite | ugh....... just spend all day figuring out how to generate openSSL CA's, certs, csrs, etc, etc only to find out debian's openLDAP is compiled with gnuTLS :( |
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| 19:46.32 | twobitsprite | and now of course I can't find any good docs/howtos on openldap+gnutls |
| 19:46.40 | twobitsprite | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.48 | EagleScreen | I have a partition in ext4 which I used to use as /home in an old Ubuntu installation, now I have erased that Ubuntu installation and I have installed Debian testing. I would like to acess to my files in that partition, and I can mount it, but the my user folder was encrypted with ecryptfs-tool or something (it is an option in the Ubuntu installer), I still have the passprhase, so can I recover my files? |
| 19:46.49 | nvz | twobitsprite: I just realized I'm in the wrong channel |
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| 19:47.14 | bernard__ | X freezes on startup (since, I guess, last upgrade). I have an ATI Radeon 7500. Any idea? |
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| 19:47.24 | nvz | twobitsprite: but you even got me beat, that sucks.. and I feel your pain, I too have OpenSSL understanding issues |
| 19:47.39 | twobitsprite | heh |
| 19:48.08 | nvz | I ended up using static keys on my vpn straight p2p just cause the certs were complicated |
| 19:48.28 | justin_ | EagleScreen: install ecryptfs-utils |
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| 19:48.41 | EagleScreen | justin_: i have it |
| 19:48.45 | twobitsprite | well... this is openLDAP for a relatively large environment and security is a must... so I'm stuck dealing with CAs and certs |
| 19:48.51 | twobitsprite | nvz: ^^ |
| 19:49.18 | justin_ | EagleScreen: by default ecryptfs uses your account password to decrypt the encryption key |
| 19:49.25 | justin_ | EagleScreen: did you use the same password after you reinstalled? |
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| 19:49.40 | EagleScreen | yes, the same user and password |
| 19:49.50 | justin_ | EagleScreen: have you tried logging in yet? |
| 19:49.55 | nvz | twobitsprite: yeah well I have learning that stuff on my todo list but luckily can get by with just using a few systems right now and its doable |
| 19:50.10 | EagleScreen | justin_: yes, but before installing X enviroment |
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| 19:50.25 | justin_ | EagleScreen: wouldn't matter |
| 19:50.50 | EagleScreen | justin_: then, must I set the partition as /home again in fstab, and try logging-in? |
| 19:50.55 | justin_ | EagleScreen: ecryptfs-utils comes with the pam integration stuff, so it would have automatically mounted the private directory |
| 19:50.59 | justin_ | EagleScreen: uhh, yes |
| 19:51.11 | EagleScreen | ok, will try now |
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| 19:51.24 | justin_ | EagleScreen: you also need to make sure the users UID matches |
| 19:51.44 | EagleScreen | justin_: how can I know it now? |
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| 19:53.11 | justin_ | EagleScreen: you need to mount the /home partition first |
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| 19:53.17 | EagleScreen | IDs may match because there is only one user, and in the Ubuntu installation there was only one too (the same user) |
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| 19:53.50 | EagleScreen | i have the partition mounted right now, but not in /home |
| 19:53.55 | abdelkhalak | hi |
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| 19:54.15 | justin_ | EagleScreen: ls -l the directory, see what user owns your old home directory |
| 19:54.35 | abdelkhalak | i want to install debian on a pentium II, any advice please |
| 19:55.01 | justin_ | abdelkhalak: how much ram? |
| 19:55.08 | EagleScreen | justin_: dr-x------ 3 rafael rafael 4096 may 12 23:24 rafael |
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| 19:55.29 | EagleScreen | it owns to rafael, but has him the same ID? |
| 19:55.57 | justin_ | EagleScreen: files are not owned by usernames, they are owned by user ids. if rafael shows up and that is the name you expect, everything is fine |
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| 20:01.22 | ner0x | Anyone use PPTP VPN? |
| 20:01.48 | unicstar | what do you mean ? to connect here ? |
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| 20:02.02 | giany | any idea why on debian 6.0.1 if I run : |
| 20:02.04 | giany | apt-get install apache2 apache2-doc apache2-utils |
| 20:02.11 | ner0x | To connect to a VPN period. And run into that NeedsSecrets crap. |
| 20:02.21 | giany | I get this : |
| 20:02.21 | giany | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.22 | giany | E: Broken packages |
| 20:02.29 | unicstar | I have used pptp some times |
| 20:02.49 | justin_ | judd: vesions libaprutil1 |
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| 20:02.59 | ner0x | unicstar: Ever get the Needs Secrets error? |
| 20:03.25 | unicstar | I dont remember, may be you have not set your passwords correctly |
| 20:03.47 | EagleScreen | it worked, my user folder has been auto-decrypted |
| 20:03.52 | ner0x | I used the GUI, and the password is correct. |
| 20:04.17 | giany | anyone knows? |
| 20:04.20 | unicstar | do you see that error in client or in server ? |
| 20:04.33 | ner0x | I don't have access to the server logs. |
| 20:04.35 | ner0x | So client so far. |
| 20:05.35 | unicstar | you better check your /etc/ppp/chap-secrets and other config file to be sur |
| 20:05.37 | unicstar | sre |
| 20:05.39 | ner0x | http://pastebin.com/bYmj0mrd |
| 20:05.49 | ner0x | unicstar: There is nothing in /etc/ppp/chap-secrets. |
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| 20:06.06 | karlpinc | Is there anything I can use instead of lpr -c (which does not work) to print a text file without having to open a word processor so that I get some margins and don't lose the beginning of each line? |
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| 20:06.37 | unicstar | I suggest you use "pptp-client" to create a vpn connection, not gui |
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| 20:07.27 | ner0x | unicstar: What package does that come in? |
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| 20:07.52 | karlpinc | !pptp |
| 20:07.52 | dpkg | Point to Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP) is an insecure and unreliable way to create tunnels; consider <openvpn>, <ipsec> or <l2tp> instead. Some ISPs use PPTP to provide service on Ethernet connected broadband networks; this is not supported at Debian installation time. To connect to a PPTP server, use pptpsetup (pptp-linux package, on netinst and CD1), <vpnc> or network-manager-pptp. See also <why not pptp>, <vpn>, <poptop>, <mppe>. |
| 20:08.02 | justin_ | karlpinc: a2ps? |
| 20:08.17 | EagleScreen | thanks justin_ |
| 20:08.20 | karlpinc | justin_: Ok, but Lordy! |
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| 20:09.35 | filePeter | !phy not pptp |
| 20:09.35 | ZykoticK9 | giany, i just successfully installed apache2-utils on my system. It also doesn't seem to have libaprutil1 as an rdepend? |
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| 20:09.38 | unicstar | ner0x: excuse me, it is pptpsetup, in pptp-setup package |
| 20:09.42 | filePeter | !why not pptp |
| 20:09.42 | dpkg | i heard why not pptp is http://pptpclient.sf.net/protocol-security.phtml |
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| 20:10.30 | unicstar | example: pptpsetup --create myvpn --server 1.2.3.4 --username vpnuser --password xxxxxxxxxxx --encrypt --start |
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| 20:11.33 | ner0x | unicstar: Idon't have that package. |
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| 20:11.54 | frewsxcv | if /boot is on a software raid, how do you mark it as bootable |
| 20:12.11 | pipeline | frewsxcv: you mirror the boot sectors |
| 20:12.28 | unicstar | run apt-cache search pptp-setup, or even apt-cache search pptp | grep setup to find it |
| 20:12.31 | jelly-home | frewsxcv: basically you use a boot loader capable of handling that situation |
| 20:12.48 | frewsxcv | well i'm in the setup and there's no way to toggle a bootable flag |
| 20:13.43 | frewsxcv | there's no option for a bootable flag |
| 20:13.51 | unicstar | probably the package name be pptp-linux |
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| 20:14.50 | stew | frewsxcv: which bootloader are you using? grub/grub2/lilo all ignore the bootable flag |
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| 20:15.27 | karlpinc | unicstar: Yes. (Are you reading what's in the channel? The factoid above has the package name in it.) |
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| 20:18.02 | unicstar | karlpinc: in fedora it is pptp-setup package, and in debian, pptp-linux |
| 20:18.10 | rhenani | Hello Guys |
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| 20:18.13 | rhenani | =) |
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| 20:18.54 | rhenani | Can some one tell me what are differences between to use aptitude an apt-get install???? |
| 20:18.57 | InfectedSoul | how can i get a static ip for my wifi card? |
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| 20:19.27 | rhenani | InfectedSoul: Are you paying for an static IP? |
| 20:20.06 | InfectedSoul | i have a router... |
| 20:20.38 | InfectedSoul | tired of everytime the box reboots the ip changes from the router |
| 20:21.45 | rhenani | InfectedSoul: Does your moderm have an static IP? |
| 20:21.57 | InfectedSoul | what does that matter |
| 20:22.06 | InfectedSoul | it doesnt matter as this box is just on my network |
| 20:22.16 | InfectedSoul | so we use 192.168.0.whatever to access it |
| 20:22.31 | cusco | I think he is wondering why the MAC address keeps changing (just guessing) |
| 20:23.04 | cusco | InfectedSoul: does your wifi's MAC addr changes when you reboot? |
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| 20:23.10 | InfectedSoul | cusco not the mac address the ipv4 ip from the router to the box... it was .11 last night till the power went out then changes to .12 |
| 20:23.13 | InfectedSoul | No |
| 20:23.17 | InfectedSoul | just the dam ip |
| 20:23.37 | cusco | ok you're clearly clueless |
| 20:23.45 | InfectedSoul | im clueless? |
| 20:24.00 | cusco | are you using dhcp? |
| 20:24.08 | InfectedSoul | of course |
| 20:24.15 | cusco | then its not fixed |
| 20:24.23 | stew | InfectedSoul: is the wireless encrypted? how? are you currently using network-manager or wicd? or what? |
| 20:24.25 | cusco | its 'Dynamically' assigned |
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| 20:24.54 | InfectedSoul | cusco clearly your not understanding what im trying to do thanks for nothing |
| 20:25.07 | rizzeh | what is the difference between Voluntary Kernel Preemption and Preemptible Kernel? |
| 20:25.13 | InfectedSoul | stew only the pass is... and i use ifconfig commands |
| 20:25.24 | InfectedSoul | there is a network-manager but hardly use it |
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| 20:25.42 | stew | InfectedSoul: using wep? if so you can configure this statically in /etc/network/interfaces ; man interfaces |
| 20:25.43 | InfectedSoul | This is a SERVER not a desktop |
| 20:25.57 | cusco | ok, I may have missunderstood.. perhaps you could try and explain? |
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| 20:26.23 | InfectedSoul | once again support lacks.. im suppose to referre to a incomplete manual :) |
| 20:26.24 | InfectedSoul | nice |
| 20:26.25 | stew | cusco: he wants a static ip, not dynamic |
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| 20:26.41 | cusco | he was edgy |
| 20:28.30 | justin_ | the interfaces man page does kind of suck though :) |
| 20:28.54 | stew | file a bug, submit a patch... |
| 20:28.55 | ujjain | do people here have experience with assp? It showed webinterface for me before, but not anymore, while assp.pl is running, logs are empty |
| 20:28.57 | stew | ask a question... |
| 20:29.28 | ujjain | oh wait, shutdown reason was: could not find gid for group 'nobody' -- not switching effective gid -- quitting |
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| 20:30.38 | ujjain | should I do groupadd nobody? |
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| 20:31.08 | justin_ | ujjain: you should change the configuration for that app to use nogroup, which you already have |
| 20:31.38 | ujjain | justin_: thanks, I misread :) during installation and now hehe |
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| 20:33.46 | ehbello | hi guys |
| 20:34.24 | ehbello | somebody knows where can I get a cheatsheet for debian packaging? |
| 20:34.54 | alkisg | I installed debian testing + lxde, will that automatically switch to "stable" once wheezy is out? Or will it always be "testing"? |
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| 20:35.13 | stew | alkisg: it depends on whether you have "wheezy" or "testing" in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 20:35.30 | alkisg | stew: thanks, will check when the installation finishes |
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| 20:36.04 | streuner | or testing? |
| 20:37.00 | streuner | that doesnt make sense, you want stable or testing for ever |
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| 20:37.16 | stew | what? |
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| 20:37.59 | streuner | well, someone wants testing or someone want install wheezy and wants till its stable |
| 20:38.29 | stew | i don't understand... |
| 20:38.33 | streuner | nm |
| 20:38.40 | dwaynewayne | has anyone got the d-link DWA-160 dongle working on debian? I'm talking about the rev.A1 or rev.A2 |
| 20:39.08 | guiledazimba | i cant install synaptic by apt-get install synaptic. i get message: package not disponible, but is referenced by other package. why??!!! |
| 20:39.34 | rhenani | Can some one tell what is the diferrences between to use aptitude install and apt-get install |
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| 20:39.52 | dvs | dwaynewayne: Nah, I got my DWA-140 working |
| 20:39.57 | streuner | rhenani: /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 20:40.04 | stew | rhenani: apt-get is faster and less smart. aptitude has more features and can be smarter about dependency problems |
| 20:40.09 | cusco | dwaynewayne: what chipset is it? |
| 20:40.20 | stew | guiledazimba: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" in a pastebin |
| 20:40.25 | dwaynewayne | cusco: a combinaton of the Atheros 9170 and 9104 chips |
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| 20:41.02 | cusco | dwaynewayne: and is there no driver for it? where are you stuck at? |
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| 20:41.26 | cusco | dwaynewayne: http://wiki.debian.org/ar9170usb |
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| 20:41.29 | dwaynewayne | cusco: I'm trying to make sure that I don't buy a worthless stick |
| 20:41.38 | dvs | dwaynewayne: http://wiki.debian.org/ar9170usb |
| 20:41.41 | guiledazimba | i cant install synaptic by apt-get install synaptic. i get message: package not disponible, but is referenced by other package. why??!!! |
| 20:41.47 | streuner | dwaynewayne: get a HUAWEI, they work well usually |
| 20:41.51 | stew | guiledazimba: because you are missing a main repository |
| 20:41.53 | dvs | oops. sorry |
| 20:41.55 | dwaynewayne | cusco: been there... I just wanted to see if there were anyone with experience on the device |
| 20:42.08 | stew | guiledazimba: if you show us the output of "apt-cache policy", we could verify it |
| 20:42.11 | guiledazimba | how i set a main repository? |
| 20:42.11 | cusco | streuner: huwawei for wifi? never seen that! |
| 20:42.17 | cusco | I thought they did umts modems |
| 20:42.23 | streuner | yes |
| 20:42.24 | dwaynewayne | streuner: The thing is... I need a dongle with multiband support... so I am very limited |
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| 20:42.32 | stew | guiledazimba: by editing /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:42.43 | cusco | dwaynewayne: what do you mean by multiband? what is that? |
| 20:42.54 | streuner | dwaynewayne: so its for wifi? forget what i told you then |
| 20:42.58 | dwaynewayne | cusco: 2,4 and 5Ghz support |
| 20:43.13 | dwaynewayne | streuner: yes, it is a wifi usb dongle |
| 20:43.38 | dwaynewayne | I just want to find a usb dongle with multiband support that will give me the least of problems |
| 20:43.40 | streuner | atheros is usually well supported |
| 20:43.58 | dwaynewayne | OK, I'll cross my fingers then |
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| 20:44.23 | streuner | dwaynewayne: check out #madwifi too |
| 20:44.29 | dwaynewayne | I need to find the rev.A1 or rev.A2... they have another rev with a ralink chipset (YIKES!!) |
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| 20:44.48 | cusco | streuner: madwifi is (or was) for atheros on pci, not usb |
| 20:45.07 | dwaynewayne | streuner: Yes, but that is a outdated project |
| 20:45.09 | guiledazimba | apt-cache policy = package of files 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status realese a=now 500 http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main i386 packages 500 cdrom... |
| 20:45.10 | streuner | cusco: and you think, they dont have experiences with that? |
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| 20:45.38 | guiledazimba | stew: apt-cache policy = package of files 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status realese a=now 500 http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main i386 packages 500 cdrom... |
| 20:45.42 | stew | guiledazimba: your message was truncated. its probably best to just use a pastebin |
| 20:45.45 | dwaynewayne | but thank you for the replies, I appreciate it! |
| 20:45.53 | streuner | cusco: usually devel hanging there... |
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| 20:46.00 | stew | guiledazimba: but you probably want: /msg dpkg squeeze sources.list |
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| 20:48.15 | tuxcrafter | i want fsck.ext4 to become in my initramfs when running update-initramfs -u -k all -v |
| 20:48.18 | tuxcrafter | how should i do this |
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| 20:49.46 | tuxcrafter | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=568252 |
| 20:50.02 | streuner | !dbugs 568252 |
| 20:50.08 | dpkg | #568252:W[initscripts] Please support running fsck for / from an initramfs (); Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:48:02 UTC [] |
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| 20:51.22 | grindhold | hi guys . i am looking for the package of libgdk-x11-2.0-dev because i need it to build a vala tutorial program. i use the sid repositories. i have the binary library installed, by default, but i cannot find the corresponding source package. |
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| 20:51.43 | tuxcrafter | i am debuggin a cluster and i got some storage issues and when i test this my fs gets dammanged and i have to use a live system to just run fsck -u /dev/lvm0/root |
| 20:51.58 | guiledazimba | how i exit and save in vi editor?? |
| 20:52.03 | tuxcrafter | if initramfs could do a fsck -y for ext4 this saves ma lots of time |
| 20:52.07 | tuxcrafter | and trouble |
| 20:52.10 | MrFrood | guiledazimba: :wq |
| 20:52.21 | Arrowmaster | guiledazimba: press ESC then :wq |
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| 20:53.14 | MrFrood | !tell guiledazimba about vi basics |
| 20:53.16 | guiledazimba | Arrowmaster: and to no save? |
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| 20:53.32 | Arrowmaster | instead of :wq do :q! |
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| 20:54.23 | MrFrood | guiledazimba: try running vitutor |
| 20:54.26 | Arrowmaster | w is write, q is quit, if you have edited the file and try to do :q it will complain and tell you to use :q! if you really want to quit without saving |
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| 20:56.11 | dvs | wonders why no one uses ":x" |
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| 20:56.24 | dwaynewayne | I guess I'll browse all the dongles with ar9170... at least I know that they are supported |
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| 20:57.05 | dwaynewayne | but then each dongle is produced with different revisions... wih DIFFERENT chipsets... jezzz.. it's a pain |
| 20:57.06 | justin_ | wonders why no one uses ZZ |
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| 20:57.38 | joltcan | justin_: Because they just fall asleep? :) |
| 20:58.10 | MrFrood | points justin_ at /msg vi basics - dpkg uses ZZ :P |
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| 20:59.18 | MrFrood | *or even /msg dpkg vi basic |
| 21:00.14 | MrFrood | * will get right if it kills him *or even /msg dpkg vi basics ... :-/ |
| 21:00.39 | MrFrood | hangs head in shame |
| 21:00.49 | unicstar | just testing |
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| 21:01.15 | dvs | unicstar: whezzy. ;-) |
| 21:01.20 | dvs | wheezy too! |
| 21:01.44 | Danyk2099 | Hi, does anybody know where I can find a DEB package for php 5.3.6? |
| 21:01.47 | unicstar | ;-) |
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| 21:04.29 | somiaj | Danyk2099: for stable? You will have to look for a backport -- if there isn't one in backports you can make your own. /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 21:04.51 | stew | judd: versions php5 |
| 21:04.52 | judd | Package php5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny10; squeeze: 5.3.3-7; wheezy: 5.3.3-7; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze1; sid: 5.3.6-7; sid: 5.3.6-11 |
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| 21:05.37 | InfectedSoul | is this correct http://pastebin.com/DM4pgPne |
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| 21:06.40 | stew | InfectedSoul: that looks fine, but you probably also want to add wireless- entries there as well |
| 21:06.54 | InfectedSoul | what u mean |
| 21:06.55 | stew | InfectedSoul: (man 7 wireless) |
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| 21:07.39 | stew | InfectedSoul: if you are connecting via wireless, you will want to add wireless-essid wireless-key, or whatever else you would need to send to iwconfig to get the wireless connected |
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| 21:08.43 | dvs | Not to mention the encryption entries |
| 21:08.52 | stew | i did mention that |
| 21:09.31 | dvs | wants to start "the argument clinic" but resists |
| 21:09.46 | InfectedSoul | i thought its already freaking there |
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| 21:10.44 | stew | InfectedSoul: ok. i can't tell since it doens't look like you showed us the entire file, they weren't in the url you showed us |
| 21:11.08 | InfectedSoul | thats all that was in the dam wiki from debian |
| 21:11.42 | stew | InfectedSoul: you could add it perhaps |
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| 21:12.09 | InfectedSoul | so just add wireless-key s:PASSCODE? |
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| 21:12.57 | stew | InfectedSoul: if it is a wep passphrase (and not a wep hex key, and not wpa), that's fine. but no don't just add that also add essid and perhaps channel |
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| 21:13.05 | InfectedSoul | telling someone man this doesnt help them |
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| 21:13.28 | dvs | !next |
| 21:13.28 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 21:16.36 | SgrA | Hm I have this weird bug: |
| 21:16.47 | SgrA | http://imagebin.org/154899 |
| 21:16.59 | SgrA | conky shows the background of slim for some reason |
| 21:17.19 | SgrA | then, when i right click near it such that the resultant menu floats over it, it becomes alright |
| 21:17.32 | frewsxcv | i shouldn't put swap on a raid 1, right? |
| 21:17.36 | SgrA | ouch wrong channel |
| 21:17.40 | SgrA | sorry |
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| 21:18.07 | somiaj | Danyk2099: please don't message people. Ask questions in the room. You are fully capable for to look for debian-backports in google, also read the factoid I told you to |
| 21:19.27 | somiaj | !tell Danyk2099 ssbp |
| 21:19.59 | alkisg | I'm trying to install testing+lxde, and it's going fine until I'm prompted to insert the wheeze lxde+xfce CD, which is already mounted... Can I do something about it? |
| 21:20.30 | jhutchins_lt | alkisg: #debian-next on irc.debian.net |
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| 21:20.37 | alkisg | Thanks |
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| 21:31.14 | edwin_quijada | How Do I give the Samba User Local Admin Rights on XP machine |
| 21:33.32 | Arrowmaster | you want to use samba to connect from a debian client to an xp server and have admin rights on the server? |
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| 21:35.42 | DasEi | edwin_quijada: left clickon the folder, enable sharing |
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| 21:39.11 | JulianSSS | Hi there - is this chat english? |
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| 21:40.04 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 21:41.04 | JulianSSS | I just changed from Ubuntu (due to Unity and stuff) to Debian squeeze. I use a streamzap IR-remote-control (USB). But it wont work - I could not find any working howto for managing this problem. |
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| 21:41.31 | somiaj | JulianSSS: do you know what kernel modules/software it required in ubuntu? |
| 21:41.34 | JulianSSS | Perhaps I'm searching the wrong places or something... can anyone help me out - |
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| 21:42.07 | JulianSSS | somiaj: in ubuntu it works out of the box but I know the module called streamzap_lirc |
| 21:42.12 | chelz | what is it called when one sets their router to send packets coming in on the wan side on some high port, say 20000, to port 22 on a host the lan side? |
| 21:42.20 | somiaj | JulianSSS: sometimes that is enough to find where to look |
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| 21:43.14 | JulianSSS | somiaj: tried that already - but I think that this module is kindof renamed in debian recently :( |
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| 21:44.13 | chelz | JulianSSS: yeah it's just called streamzap now i think |
| 21:44.16 | chelz | JulianSSS: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:AhWjF5qsdcsJ:peterton.org/%3Fp%3D30+streamzap+lirc+debian&hl=en&client=ubuntu&gl=us&strip=1 |
| 21:45.05 | JulianSSS | chelz: are you familiar with lirc? |
| 21:45.44 | chelz | JulianSSS: not really. i know of it. |
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| 21:45.54 | chelz | JulianSSS: i'm just going off that link |
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| 21:46.12 | JulianSSS | because the lirc-deamon doesnt even start at the moment. so config won't help me out. this will be the next step |
| 21:46.57 | chelz | you're getting a nice learning experience here doing things the debian way heh |
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| 21:47.47 | JulianSSS | i tried |
| 21:47.47 | JulianSSS | #m-a a-i streamzap |
| 21:47.47 | JulianSSS | but theres an error too. I cant read/understand the logfile |
| 21:48.21 | chelz | JulianSSS: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 21:48.49 | JulianSSS | chelz: hat is this? |
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| 21:49.01 | JulianSSS | chelz: ahh i see |
| 21:49.17 | chelz | put logs there |
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| 21:50.34 | gnarface | is venkman broken for anyone else in here? |
| 21:50.55 | gnarface | am i really the only person having this problem? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=618114 |
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| 21:51.07 | gnarface | (besides that other guy) |
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| 21:51.48 | JulianSSS | chelz: http://pastebin.com/QTS7cZTa |
| 21:51.48 | JulianSSS | not very beautiful - sorry |
| 21:52.37 | Krunk | Hi - newcomer to Debian Squeeze. After numerous installs, it fianlly installed. Now root pwd not recognized, nor php authentication for my local dev site. Fixed root pwd, but wonder how to fix php authentication - re-installed all php5,db, apache2 - any ideas? |
| 21:52.39 | JulianSSS | this is, when i try to m-a a-i lirc-modules-source |
| 21:52.58 | Krunk | btw, site work fine locally on Mandriva and production. |
| 21:53.08 | mastix | hi, i'm looking for a lightweight dns server .. can anyone suggest me one? thanks |
| 21:53.21 | chelz | JulianSSS: m-a a-i? |
| 21:53.42 | JulianSSS | module-assistant |
| 21:53.50 | chelz | mastix: dnsmasq |
| 21:53.53 | JulianSSS | its about building kernel modules |
| 21:54.12 | chelz | JulianSSS: well i'm pretty sure what you pastebin'd isn't an error. just looks like it finished. |
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| 21:54.25 | mastix | ok chelz |
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| 21:55.07 | JulianSSS | chelz: but it says Build of the package lirc-modules-source failed! How do you wish to proceed? |
| 21:55.36 | JulianSSS | chelz: ohh sorry - didn't scroll down :D |
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| 21:56.20 | EagleScreen | hi |
| 21:56.22 | chelz | JulianSSS: eh. well you could tee the output to a file then use the pastebinit command to pastebin the full log |
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| 21:57.13 | JulianSSS | chelz: this is ncurses dialog. i try to do it terminalstyle wait a moment |
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| 21:58.49 | JulianSSS | chelz: here we go: http://pastebin.com/hrv4Gm7A |
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| 22:01.48 | chelz | JulianSSS: are you on lenny or squeeze? |
| 22:01.57 | chelz | JulianSSS: and what is the output of uname -r? |
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| 22:02.08 | JulianSSS | chelz: not quite shure *g* |
| 22:02.23 | JulianSSS | chelz: 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 22:02.28 | chelz | ahh yep |
| 22:02.30 | chelz | JulianSSS: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=562512#27 |
| 22:02.31 | chelz | do that |
| 22:02.37 | JulianSSS | cool |
| 22:03.04 | EagleScreen | my debian testing with kde 4.4.5 considers usb medias as cd-roms |
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| 22:03.19 | EagleScreen | then i cannot mount them |
| 22:03.25 | chelz | JulianSSS: btw if this is a fresh install you probably should look into using the latest debian, debian 6 "squeeze" rather than debian 5 "lenny" |
| 22:03.35 | EagleScreen | dmesg: [ 3191.236684] ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format. |
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| 22:03.48 | Arrowmaster | chelz: that is a squeeze kernel |
| 22:04.05 | JulianSSS | hmm arrg - i just downloaded one that worked - netinstall - can i dist-upgrade like ubuntu? |
| 22:04.20 | Arrowmaster | JulianSSS: run lsb_release -a |
| 22:04.20 | EagleScreen | /media/cdrom is open from kde, but the content is empty |
| 22:04.26 | chelz | Arrowmaster: i was just doublechecking that hm so it is |
| 22:04.33 | chelz | JulianSSS: actually nvm |
| 22:04.38 | chelz | i was mixed up with wheezy |
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| 22:05.16 | JulianSSS | wheezy is this unstable thing, yes? lsb says squeeze 6.0.1 |
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| 22:05.20 | chelz | either way that fix should work |
| 22:05.24 | chelz | JulianSSS: yeah that's fine |
| 22:06.14 | JulianSSS | chelz: the bugreport tells me something about a "unpacked directory" - where could that be? |
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| 22:06.42 | JulianSSS | ahh got it it's "." :P |
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| 22:06.58 | redeeman_ | hello |
| 22:07.03 | chelz | JulianSSS: yeah. should work. i gtg but just so you know i got that bugreport from this: https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=%2Fusr%2Fsrc%2Fmodules%2Flirc-modules%2Flirc_i2c.c%3A399%3A+error%3A+unknown+field+%E2%80%98id%E2%80%99+specified+in+initializer |
| 22:07.17 | redeeman_ | im having a problem with a lenny installation, it complains about not finding modules.dep at boot, and then fails to mount root and such |
| 22:07.25 | redeeman_ | i have checked and modules.dep does exist |
| 22:07.29 | redeeman_ | so everything should be fine |
| 22:07.34 | JulianSSS | chelz: ok thank very much so far! |
| 22:07.44 | chelz | sure |
| 22:08.52 | foetus | bye |
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| 22:11.56 | EagleScreen | any idea? |
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| 22:13.37 | EagleScreen | dpkg told me this: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface., |
| 22:13.37 | dpkg | EagleScreen: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
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| 22:15.22 | redeeman_ | how do i generate a full initramfs? the initramfs my lenny generates does not contain modules.dep or any modules for the correct kernel |
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| 22:27.46 | Amnesia | hi |
| 22:27.59 | Amnesia | I've tried vimtutor on both ubuntu and debian |
| 22:28.04 | Amnesia | but when I open it |
| 22:28.12 | dvs | !enter |
| 22:28.12 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 22:28.12 | Amnesia | it just opens an empty file in /tmp/ |
| 22:28.27 | Amnesia | the tutor files do exist in /usr/share/vim/* |
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| 22:31.15 | Soothsayer | Would there be any issues while doing an upgrade from lenny to squeeze if my server has software raid-1 enabled? |
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| 22:49.05 | monkey_d_luffy | I just plugged in an ExpressCard in my squeeze laptop... nothing shows up in dmesg... What can I do? |
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| 22:50.05 | monkey_d_luffy | "pccardctl ls" shows nothing |
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| 22:55.05 | rubin110 | I've taken a hard drive with an install of Debian and popped it into a new machine with a different video/monitor setup, is there a way to make X11 figure out a new xorg.conf? |
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| 22:58.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | rubin110: you could run X -configure (as root), or i think dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg works |
| 22:58.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: xorg |
| 22:58.48 | dpkg | X.Org X11 is the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2 and first included in Debian <Etch>. The release packaged for Squeeze is X11R7.5. To install, ask me about <install x>. To configure, ask me about <xorg config>. To remove, ask about <remove x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQ #xorg on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 22:58.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: xorg config |
| 22:58.54 | dpkg | From Lenny onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Resolution is set by your monitor/graphics card (unless they're broken) or by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. From Squeeze, input hotplugging saves duplicating settings and restarting X after changes. The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often blank. Manual configuration is still possible, see <xorg config squeeze> <xorg config lenny>. |
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| 23:02.45 | Kobaz | so. i have random file corruption problems |
| 23:02.54 | Kobaz | memtest checks out fine after 100+ passes |
| 23:03.05 | Kobaz | i've replaced the power supply, and i've replaced the hard drive |
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| 23:03.37 | Kobaz | and a while ago i replaced the motherboard... the last thing is the cpu and video card... what are some tests I could check the cpu/video with? |
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| 23:06.01 | ilembitov | Hi, all. I have just installed Wheezy and Catalyst 11.4 on a dual-gpu (intel/amd) laptop. When I boot into X the machine hangs with black screen |
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| 23:07.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | ilembitov: can you drop to tty using ctrl+alt+f2? |
| 23:08.03 | ilembitov | Kamping_Kaiser: No |
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| 23:08.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | ilembitov: if you boot single mode does it allow you to drop into the root shell? |
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| 23:08.53 | ilembitov | Kamping_Kaiser: I can only force reboot the machine, it doesn't respond to anything but power button |
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| 23:09.02 | ilembitov | Kamping_Kaiser: yes |
| 23:09.17 | ilembitov | Kamping_Kaiser: what logs do you need? |
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| 23:10.02 | fredden | so, I have some kernel updates appearing in squeeze/updates/main, yet no mention on http://www.debian.org/security/#DSAS -- something seems missing... ? |
| 23:10.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | ilembitov: /var/log/Xorg* (the last 2 or 3 if ossible) |
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| 23:11.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | fredden: the notices sometimes take a few days to appear |
| 23:11.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | ilembitov: also /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you have one |
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| 23:12.58 | fredden | Kamping_Kaiser, where might I find a changelog? |
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| 23:13.14 | anigma | how do I switch between workspaces in gnome with the keyboard? |
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| 23:13.47 | ZykoticK9 | anigma, ctrl+alt+<left><right> arrow keys |
| 23:13.51 | ksk | strg alt arrow |
| 23:13.55 | ksk | pff! |
| 23:14.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | fredden: before downloading the package?http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.32-34squeeze1/changelog , but its 404 atm :/ |
| 23:14.19 | ksk | maybe up/down, too. depending on your workspace setup |
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| 23:14.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | fredden: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/kernel/dists/sid/linux-2.6/?op=log would be the other place, but again, its broken atm (because of the alioth movce) |
| 23:15.03 | fredden | Kamping_Kaiser, thanks. cron-apt has downloaded the .debs, so I'll unpack them and take a look |
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| 23:15.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | fredden: no prob |
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| 23:16.07 | ilembitov | Kamping_Kaiser: http://ompldr.org/vOHM0aA |
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| 23:17.04 | ilembitov | Kamping_Kaiser: oops, the log seems to be empty |
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| 23:18.08 | ilembitov | Kamping_Kaiser: it is empty and there is no other Xorg.8.log |
| 23:19.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | ilembitov: is this a squeeze system? my first suggestion is try moving xorg aside and try9ing without one |
| 23:19.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | ilembitov: sorry about lag, electrician just arrived, so i have to keep cheking in on him |
| 23:20.43 | ilembitov | Kamping_Kaiser: it worked with the conf, thanks! |
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| 23:22.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | ilembitov: :) |
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| 23:22.40 | fredden | for those interested, the linux updates to squeeze list five CVEs and had a datestamp of one week ago |
| 23:22.56 | ilembitov | Kamping_Kaiser: but now Catalyst seems to be unable to find my ATI card. I run the Control Center and it says that either my driver is inappropriate for my hardware or I should use aticonfig (which I did in the firt place) |
| 23:22.56 | fredden | not sure why they only just turned up |
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| 23:25.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | ilembitov: i'm not familiar with proprietary ati stuff sorry, so i doubt i'll be able to help with that past theoretical stuff |
| 23:26.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | fredden: might have only just been added to the package list |
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| 23:28.42 | Gump | #debian, anyone tried using an xbox 360 controller in linux? |
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| 23:30.56 | Arrowmaster | Gump: wired ones should work without any problem |
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| 23:34.30 | Gump | Arrowmaster, so just plug and play? there is no game control manager in the default install of debian, so i can't even tell if it's been detected. |
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| 23:35.56 | ZykoticK9 | Gump, check for js0 in /dev/input - you can "cat" it an move/press buttons to get ascii confirmation that it's being detected |
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| 23:36.03 | Arrowmaster | theres a graphical config but its not available in squeeze |
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| 23:37.29 | Gump | what is the equivalent of nautilus in debian? |
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| 23:38.11 | ZykoticK9 | Gump, nautilus is Gnome's file manager, it's basically the same in all distros? |
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| 23:39.09 | Gump | ZykoticK9, i just tried nautilus /dev/input and it returned "No protocol specified. Could not parse arguments: Cannot open display:" |
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| 23:39.22 | Gump | that should be the correct syntax, unless it changed a few months ago |
| 23:39.36 | ZykoticK9 | Gump, from a terminal. You can't get nautilus to open a device. |
| 23:39.59 | Gump | won't open home folder either |
| 23:40.19 | daemonkeeper | Do you try to start nautilus as root? |
| 23:40.24 | Gump | yes |
| 23:40.30 | ZykoticK9 | Gump, "cannot open display" are you sshed in or something? |
| 23:40.35 | daemonkeeper | do "xhost +" in another shell |
| 23:40.39 | daemonkeeper | Then try again |
| 23:40.57 | daemonkeeper | (i.e. in a shell /not/ being su'ed to root) |
| 23:41.46 | Gump | daemon, that did it. care to explain what just happened? |
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| 23:41.56 | Gump | daemonkeeper, rather |
| 23:42.22 | daemonkeeper | The X server does not allow windows to be painted which are not owned by the same user as the X server is running at. |
| 23:42.36 | daemonkeeper | By doing "xhost +" you disable this security check. |
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| 23:43.23 | Gump | ahh. would it be advisable to change the admin user to the default user? |
| 23:43.37 | daemonkeeper | No |
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| 23:44.01 | Gump | every time i open a root terminal, it logs in to the other user. when i try to sudo in a normal terminal it says i am not in the sudoers list. should i leave it that way or add my other user? |
| 23:44.35 | Arrowmaster | add your user to sudoers and use sudo instead of su |
| 23:44.54 | Gump | alright cool. thanks |
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| 23:50.34 | ragnar76 | hi all |
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| 23:51.43 | ragnar76 | while upgrading, i get this error >>> Failed to get D-Bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /org/freedesktop/systemd1/private: Connection refused <<< what's it about and how can i fix it? |
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| 23:55.35 | EyesOnly_ | is anyone here willing to help me debug my bluetooth chipset? |
| 23:56.22 | ner0x | Anyone manage their money with a linux program? |
| 23:56.59 | ragnar76 | i'm here but i have no clue about bluetooth |
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| 23:57.25 | EyesOnly_ | yeah ive got a CR48 which has bluetooth built in |
| 23:57.54 | EyesOnly_ | it shows up as an ar3011 in lsusb but no bluetooth-using-stacks can see it |
| 23:58.20 | abrotman | ner0x: gnucash ? |
| 23:58.39 | ner0x | Yeah, was considering it. |
| 23:58.39 | EyesOnly_ | ner0x: kmymoney? |
| 23:58.43 | themill | !qotd234 |
| 23:58.43 | dpkg | <zhangsha> is there System for analysis of financial markets with debian? <petemc> anything that can plot a graph at a downward angle should work |
| 23:59.20 | EyesOnly_ | dpkg: hahahahahaha |
| 23:59.20 | dpkg | EyesOnly_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
