| 00:00.02 | valdyn | thewanderer1: 3 days for 1G? |
| 00:00.15 | thewanderer1 | it happens... |
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| 00:01.00 | aleph__ | however you need the nonfree stuff especially for notebook stuff... makes it a lot easier |
| 00:01.25 | thewanderer1 | I'll download that, probably... well... over WiFi... yeah... |
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| 00:03.05 | freelikeinfreedo | either as an option while install |
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| 00:03.29 | simonrvn | multiarch been around a while, but became offcial last release, iirc? |
| 00:03.46 | freelikeinfreedo | or afterwards there is no big difference .. while install is better for an direct working expiriance |
| 00:03.54 | simonrvn | could be one before that |
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| 00:04.28 | Torikun | http://code.google.com/p/mephistobackup/ |
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| 00:07.50 | simonrvn | i knew he was spamming that (had a feeling) |
| 00:08.49 | freelikeinfreedo | i thing last .. shure anything runs like at any other sys .. but the mere u use non-free stuff the less the fine debian release is debian/fine... rather think of a virtual solution like xen or no-effort virtualbox or whatever within you run mint and fine |
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| 00:09.18 | junis | greetings fine people ... i need old deb packages ... like such that would depend of libc6 <= 2.3.6 .o) ... where could i find these ? |
| 00:10.04 | freelikeinfreedo | debian 6 has the latest xen at time so think bout it better than dual boot and deb stays hardened |
| 00:10.31 | adb | !ado |
| 00:10.31 | dpkg | Debian has archives of no-longer-supported releases at http://archive.debian.org/ . To use with <APT>, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For old versions of specific packages, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 00:11.01 | junis | thank you adb |
| 00:11.06 | freelikeinfreedo | aint them to be found on university ftp hosts? |
| 00:11.18 | freelikeinfreedo | ftp.almostanyuni |
| 00:12.12 | freelikeinfreedo | ftp://ftp.belnet.be/ holds stuff |
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| 00:13.41 | freelikeinfreedo | havent been there for long but last time they got it back till mcfly |
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| 00:14.53 | freelikeinfreedo | tell me if you find it there or if the loose they had all linux distos online |
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| 00:23.02 | senorpedro | hi |
| 00:23.36 | senorpedro | is it a good idea to put swap on a flash memory card? |
| 00:23.40 | senorpedro | if not, why? |
| 00:25.00 | un214 | no |
| 00:25.02 | un214 | too slow |
| 00:25.19 | un214 | maybe wear out too fast |
| 00:28.07 | senorpedro | how fast? |
| 00:28.15 | senorpedro | does swap write very often |
| 00:28.17 | senorpedro | ? |
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| 00:28.49 | jmp33 | Hello. I have installed Debian 6 i386 from DVD on two machines. The installer put an AMD64 kernel instead of a 32 bit kernel. I can't find anything on the installer docs to prevent this. Is there a way? |
| 00:29.54 | thewanderer1 | senorpedro: swap writes almost all the time, not recommended on flash |
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| 00:30.20 | thewanderer1 | you're better off with swap on NBD or iSCSI (dunno if the latter is possible) |
| 00:30.42 | tiagosab | jmp33: Why don't you want to install amd64 kernel? IIUC, amd64 kernels in i386 do not mean you'll have an amd64 system. |
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| 00:32.02 | thewanderer1 | tiagosab: but they break on initializing long mode... |
| 00:32.12 | thewanderer1 | which is after GRUB |
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| 00:32.49 | jmp33 | I would like to be able to install a 386 kernel on a 386 system. |
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| 00:34.09 | tiagosab | It's a i386 kernel which takes advantage of amd64 instructions. I'm trying to find a reference about that. |
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| 00:35.19 | jmp33 | tiagosab, it's working well. But I tried with a beta of the installer some time ago and it installed a 386 kernel. I don't know why the stable v6 is doing so. |
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| 00:37.23 | jmp33 | I know that I can always install a 686 kernel and remove amd64, but I consider it unnecessary work |
| 00:40.35 | tiagosab | jmp33: I can't give you links, but I'm pretty sure you're better off with the amd64 one. |
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| 00:41.05 | jelly-home | jmp33: it _is_ unnecessary work. If the amd64 flavor kernel works on that hardware, you can just keep using it. |
| 00:42.22 | tiagosab | \part |
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| 00:42.59 | jmp33 | thank you very much. |
| 00:46.13 | jmp33 | It seems to me a little strange however. There is a AMD64 version of Debian. Why force me to use a mixed thing? |
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| 00:48.07 | indigo_ | jmp33: What does uname -a say |
| 00:48.29 | jmp33 | Linux jws1 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 12 05:14:59 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 00:48.55 | indigo_ | Weeeeird |
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| 01:02.08 | nvz | I have a crazy idea.. wondering if I can take this old ipod photo 60gb I have and somehow make it still work as an ipod but also be a usb bootable debian install. heh |
| 01:05.14 | nvz | guess I gotta charge it up enough to turn on first..heh |
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| 01:37.16 | LinuxGuy2009 | Do any of the other desktop environments have any kind of netbook mode? I think I saw that KDE does but I wasnt sure of the rest. |
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| 01:38.52 | nono31 | what better set-up for nginx + php ? http://wiki.nginx.org/PHPFcgiExample or http://blog.digitalstruct.com/2010/07/12/getting-started-with-nginx-and-php-fpm/ ? |
| 01:39.11 | reavengrey | Yo mama |
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| 01:52.14 | aleph__ | i am sad.. the math and the not-math chan is pure harassment.. fuck em for their ignorance .. i am a first semester and like to chat a lot flamed and banned |
| 01:52.34 | aleph__ | i ask myself what chat is for but not for chatting |
| 01:53.04 | aleph__ | sorry wrong chn |
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| 01:59.24 | aleph__ | somehow i start to hat the formerly flag of freedom irc was alwas free now people play hitler like on some little radio station and hundreds of people just shut up |
| 01:59.46 | aleph__ | if this is freedom i look myself a different home |
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| 02:03.49 | aleph__ | #not-math even takes suggestions to take all german connections out is this fitting a free world? |
| 02:04.22 | ZykoticK9 | aleph__, how is any of this Debian related? |
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| 02:10.19 | aleph__ | <CESSMASTER> at this level it's all the same up to trolleomorphism |
| 02:10.19 | aleph__ | * foocraft hat die Verbindung getrennt (Quit: Leaving) |
| 02:10.19 | aleph__ | <maskd> just ban all of germany |
| 02:10.19 | aleph__ | <kilimanjaro> good idea |
| 02:10.19 | aleph__ | * FragmentedCurve (~paco@pool-173-77-170-144.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) hat #not-math betreten |
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| 02:13.25 | casts_ | LinuxGuy2009: e17 does |
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| 02:17.48 | aleph__ | the actual song on gotv is fine |
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| 02:19.20 | casts_ | aleph__: in #debian, we don't so much care. |
| 02:19.36 | LinuxGuy2009 | casts_: Oh Ive been wanting to try e17, is it in squeeze? |
| 02:19.42 | casts_ | nope. |
| 02:19.50 | LinuxGuy2009 | casts_: darn |
| 02:20.25 | casts_ | the EFL libraries have hit 1.0, and e17 seems to be working very well for me. its crashed once in the last few weeks and some days chews cpu |
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| 02:20.36 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is the debian live project an official debian project? |
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| 02:20.44 | casts_ | yes |
| 02:21.21 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ok cause I wanted to ask what exactly the standard image was for? Is it just a live base install or something like that? |
| 02:21.36 | casts_ | the standard live cd? |
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| 02:21.39 | LinuxGuy2009 | Yeah |
| 02:21.52 | aleph__ | @casts_ maybe this is the path to luck ill try |
| 02:22.04 | casts_ | probably only has the standard packages installed, + some livecd specific pkgs |
| 02:22.08 | LinuxGuy2009 | They have gnome, kde, lxde, xfce, recovery, standard. |
| 02:22.13 | LinuxGuy2009 | ok |
| 02:22.36 | LinuxGuy2009 | But probably no GUI right? Just the base system? |
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| 02:22.43 | casts_ | bingo |
| 02:22.46 | LinuxGuy2009 | Cool |
| 02:23.35 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ok thank you |
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| 02:27.58 | bros | I am going to use Debain on a box that will be connected to a broadband modem and also have a wireless network adapter in access point mode. I am also going to use GNOME. I do not know if NetworkManager supports creating a wireless access point, therefore I do not think I can use it. What method should I then use to configure my network interfaces? |
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| 02:28.48 | wad | Can dd be used to copy a partition from one drive to another? |
| 02:28.55 | casts_ | yes |
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| 02:29.32 | wad | dd if=/dev/sdc/sdc1 of=/dev/sdd/sdd1 |
| 02:29.37 | casts_ | bros: is there any point even having x on there? |
| 02:29.38 | wad | Does that work? |
| 02:29.53 | casts_ | wad: sure, if sd[cd]1 exist |
| 02:30.02 | wad | Okay, cool. |
| 02:30.19 | wad | I'll make sure that /dev/sdd/sdd1 exists, and is the same filesystem as /dev/sdc/sdc1 |
| 02:30.32 | wad | But won't sdd1 be overwritten? |
| 02:30.41 | casts_ | if you're asking questions like this the likelyhood that you fuck something is significant |
| 02:30.45 | bros | casts_: yes. it is my desktop (only) computer. it is how I connected to the Internet. the fact that is hosts a wireless network is a bonus, not its main purpose. |
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| 02:31.00 | Annies | Hello world. |
| 02:31.10 | casts_ | actually with that last question the likelyhood that you fuck something has gotten a lot higher |
| 02:31.16 | casts_ | hello Annies |
| 02:31.50 | wad | heh heh, I think I understand how it works, but I'm testing my hypothesis against more experiences brains. |
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| 02:31.55 | Annies | I just got in and saw some f*ck words, what's going on? :P |
| 02:32.14 | casts_ | Annies: we're testing wad's backup infrastructure |
| 02:32.22 | Annies | Ooh ok |
| 02:32.24 | wad | I'm just trying to figure out how to use dd to copy an entire partition from one drive to a different one. |
| 02:32.37 | Annies | Going any good? I'm fixing a backupsystem of my own atm so it's a bit of a hot subject :) |
| 02:32.57 | wad | This is actually a preventative step in a sequence of fun steps that started when my RAID5 had two drives simulateneously fail. |
| 02:33.01 | casts_ | wad: isn't it much faster to use tar/rsync/cp? |
| 02:33.31 | wad | casts_: I'm wanting to copy a failed-out RAID partition, as a backup. In case, you know, something get's f***ed up. |
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| 02:44.47 | bros | casts_: yes. it is my desktop (only) computer. it is how I connected to the Internet. the fact that is hosts a wireless network is a bonus, not its main purpose. |
| 02:44.54 | nvz | hmm strange.. dmesg shows sdc: sdc1 sdc2 when I plug in this ipod, but gparted says it has no partition table.. |
| 02:45.32 | bros | nvz gparted /dev/sdc ? |
| 02:46.11 | nvz | uh, yeah.. I'm looking at /dev/sdc heh |
| 02:46.34 | nvz | I'm about to reboot it and put it into just the mass storage mode right now its actually booted in normal ipod mode |
| 02:46.55 | nvz | Im attempting to make this old iPod Photo 60gb both an ipod and a bootable debian HDD |
| 02:47.07 | nvz | don't know if its possible.. but gonna find out.. haha |
| 02:47.25 | bros | nvz: i had weird problems like ipods being plugged in during boot causing bios to hang |
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| 02:48.18 | nvz | bros: well I think at the very least if its in its low-level mass storage mode the BIOS will attempt to boot it.. its just a matter of if it will still work as an ipod when I'm done |
| 02:49.30 | nvz | I just got an itouch and a droid now and attempting to do something interesting with the old ipod.. plus I got a friend who can use a new mp3 player to listen to audiobooks and wants to try out debian.. so I'm trying to be slick and solve both problems.. |
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| 02:50.38 | bros | nvz: i do not think you will be able to install the boot loader when it is in mass storage mode without ruining the ipod functionality |
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| 02:52.01 | nvz | bros: yeah I wonder about that part.. heh. I'm not too sure how the ipods work.. but I do know that it has enough on the mobo to handle replacing the drive and setting a new drive up.. so I'm thinking the ipods boot code is on the mobo itself |
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| 02:52.52 | bros | what do you mean motherboard? |
| 02:52.53 | nvz | bros: I've done some pretty rube goldberg shit in my day with Debian... this is hardly the craziest thing I've done |
| 02:53.12 | nvz | bros: I mean the damn circuit board that is the ipod |
| 02:53.18 | casts_ | plus its only an ipod :P |
| 02:53.33 | bros | :P put rockbox on it |
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| 02:53.58 | nvz | yeah well.. would be cooler to have debian on it.. haha |
| 02:54.29 | bros | rockbox is firmware for the device. having debian on the hard drive and using other hardware to read it is different? |
| 02:54.37 | bros | iPodLinux, there you go |
| 02:54.52 | nvz | yeah I know about all that stuff, and I'm not intereste |
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| 02:55.33 | nvz | what I am trying to do here is give my friend a nifty ipod that he can plug into his computer and run debian off of.. heh.. I'm not saying it can't be done until I have tried it.. |
| 02:56.05 | nvz | and if I brick it somehow.. I got a 4gb Nano he can use.. haha |
| 02:56.43 | nvz | personally if I keep it, its just a portable HDD anyhow |
| 02:56.54 | bros | my motherboard supports UEFI, do i want to bother trying to use that instead of BIOS? |
| 02:57.34 | nvz | not familiar with UEFI but I assume its some kinda open firmware sorta thing |
| 02:57.56 | nvz | besides if the BIOS won't boot it, I'll find another way |
| 02:58.11 | nvz | the hard part as I said is getting debian on it and still having it work as an ipod |
| 02:58.15 | bros | nvz: yeah, you could use a usb stick to boot it and then point the kernel to the root partition ont he ipod |
| 02:58.39 | bros | nvz: shouldn't be hard at all, compile a kernel that has fat32 support built in, put all debian files in a folder |
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| 02:58.46 | nvz | or use loadlin.exe or PXE or put a MBR on the computer's hdd.. |
| 02:59.08 | bros | might as well put debian on the computer's hdd if you are going to write a MBR too it |
| 02:59.17 | bros | much faster than slow ipod hard drive over USB |
| 02:59.42 | nvz | I had no intention of using FAT32 but now that you mention it, that would probaly insure the ipod side of things still works if I do not attempt to create ext and swap partitions on it |
| 02:59.45 | bros | you might not impress your friend if it is piss slow |
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| 03:00.20 | nvz | that thought actually never crossed my mind |
| 03:00.24 | bros | if you plug in a non-fat/non-ntfs usb device, windows says "hey want me to reform this" |
| 03:00.40 | bros | your friend might accidentally click yes, because he/she may plug it in a lot |
| 03:00.48 | bros | pouring all of your hard work down the drain |
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| 03:03.39 | casts_ | and thats why friends don't let friends run windows |
| 03:03.52 | greedo | yes |
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| 03:05.06 | nvz | yeah well he's planning on switching and has two 500gb hdds in his machine but says they're both like 98% full |
| 03:05.56 | nvz | most my friends run Debian these days cause I refuse to support windows anymore |
| 03:06.05 | casts_ | 20gb is plenty of space :P |
| 03:06.26 | nvz | yeah well he apparently doesn't have space to spare right now and apparently doesn't wanna lose any of his data |
| 03:06.36 | nvz | how he's got all that used I'll never know.. |
| 03:06.41 | casts_ | i'm presuming its not backed up |
| 03:07.01 | nvz | I got an 80gb HDD I can give him just the same, but pretty sure he's got all the IDE channels used in the machine |
| 03:07.04 | casts_ | people who run out of space never have backups |
| 03:07.20 | nvz | yeah you'd probably be right about that |
| 03:09.00 | nvz | I mean he originally had an HP something or other I rebuilt the machine a few months ago in a new case when his mobo crapped out and I'm pretty sure he had two optical drives and two hdds, so he's got no room for an additional HDD unless its external.. I can't remember if the board I put in there had sata or not... guess I could dig up the invoice.. |
| 03:09.49 | nvz | I don't have any sata drives to spare anyhow.. he'd have to buy one.. and he'll do all that in due time.. I'm just bored and amusing myself with the idea of putting debian on this ipod |
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| 03:10.57 | nvz | I should probably backup this ipod first cause the main reason I haven't been using it as just a removable HDD myself is cause it has a demo album on it that I like and for whatever reason itunes wouldn't let me transfer it to my itouch |
| 03:11.19 | nvz | f'n DRM crap, I swear.. |
| 03:12.22 | nvz | I didn't pay for the music, it came with the ipod when I got it.. heh.. so I think the reason itunes wouldnt let me take the crap off was because I didn't have the password for the account that originally bought the stuff |
| 03:12.32 | nvz | so technically its not my music.. but I beg to differ |
| 03:12.35 | casts_ | what the fuck is in my resolv.conf |
| 03:12.50 | nvz | haha |
| 03:12.59 | nvz | how the hell should I know? |
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| 03:13.46 | casts_ | webbrowser is working again....wooo. |
| 03:14.19 | casts_ | ah. i know. DHCP to my phone on friday night overwrite my hand written one |
| 03:14.37 | nvz | I really only want one or two albums of the 5000+ songs on this ipod but finding them without itunes's help is gonna be a bitch.. haha |
| 03:15.04 | nvz | idk maybe gtkpod will help me.. |
| 03:15.48 | nvz | or rhythmbox... |
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| 03:16.07 | nvz | I doubt these apps will give me any shit trying to take the songs off I just never tried |
| 03:18.01 | nvz | hah! p0wned! just dragged the album to the desktop from rhythm box and it found the files and copied em |
| 03:18.26 | nvz | question is will they play on my itouch or will it be lame |
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| 03:37.32 | Noah0504 | Does the version of Gwibber in Debian 6.0 not support Twitter? Maybe it hasn't been patched for their OAuth? |
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| 03:39.44 | physeetcosmo | Noah0504: I have not had success with gwibber lately on any Nix platform |
| 03:40.07 | physeetcosmo | i think it doesnt support the OAuth like you said |
| 03:41.06 | Noah0504 | Eh, I figured that was maybe the problem. And yeah, physeetcosmo, it's always sadly been a little bit of a pain. I do like it when it works though. |
| 03:41.26 | Noah0504 | Oh, well. I may just take this time to look for an alternative. Haha. |
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| 03:41.58 | physeetcosmo | Noah0509: thats a bummer it looked like a cool client to me |
| 03:42.44 | physeetcosmo | I just use tweetdeck or seesmic on Chrome. Google has plugins for their browser that is kind of cool. |
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| 03:44.08 | Noah0504 | I was unaware of the TweetDesk extension. I'm going to check that out. |
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| 03:44.49 | physeetcosmo | Chrome used to have to be installed from source, but Google has a .deb for it now (if you didn't know that) :) |
| 03:44.56 | physeetcosmo | it used to be a pain |
| 03:46.01 | Noah0504 | It should work with Chromium as well, correct? |
| 03:47.21 | physeetcosmo | when you say Chromium, is that the OS? |
| 03:47.40 | physeetcosmo | I'm not familiar with the Nix variant... |
| 03:48.33 | Noah0504 | Chromium is the open source base that Chrome is built on. |
| 03:49.08 | Noah0504 | Should really be the same thing though... |
| 03:49.58 | physeetcosmo | ok, didn't know there was a branch, cool |
| 03:50.17 | physeetcosmo | yes the plugins should work on Chromium as far as I know |
| 03:50.38 | Noah0504 | Well, if anything, I'll try it out, so I guess I'll find out for sure. :P |
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| 03:51.05 | Noah0504 | And I've been waiting for this project to release a stable build: http://hotot.org/ |
| 03:51.08 | sako | hey guys can someone help me understand hostnames? so i want to specify my server as hostname.server.com... i have an A record for hostname on server.com... |
| 03:51.13 | physeetcosmo | heh heh, yeah, I am running chrome on OpenSuse with these plugins if that makes you feel better |
| 03:51.42 | sako | how would i keep my hostname as just hostname but have the hostname -f resolve as hostname.server.com |
| 03:51.48 | physeetcosmo | sako: please clarify, do you mean what apache2 refers to as a "hostname"? |
| 03:52.05 | physeetcosmo | or an actual dns hostname? |
| 03:52.09 | sako | physeetcosmo: no the dns hosntame |
| 03:52.36 | sako | not apache* |
| 03:52.47 | Noah0504 | sako: You would specify your server as such and have your A record point to the IP address of the server. |
| 03:53.03 | physeetcosmo | ok, so your hostname is being hosted from some dns server somewhere, thats what you meant by server.com? |
| 03:53.17 | sako | so would i set my /etc/hostname to hostname.server.com |
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| 03:53.24 | physeetcosmo | sako: yeah there ya go, listen to Noah0504 |
| 03:53.30 | physeetcosmo | ;) |
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| 03:55.33 | whitefang | what's more stable, unstable or testing? |
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| 03:55.59 | physeetcosmo | depends on the developer |
| 03:56.02 | physeetcosmo | typically unstable, it's out of the "alpha" phase |
| 03:56.02 | Noah0504 | whitefang: Well, when unstable breaks, it usually is fixed a little quicker. |
| 03:56.20 | Noah0504 | But, I guess by definition, testing would be. |
| 03:57.09 | whitefang | ok |
| 03:57.16 | whitefang | i think I'll try out unstable on this laptop |
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| 03:57.45 | Noah0504 | Go for it. Should be fine. I just play it safe and run stable. |
| 03:57.46 | Noah0504 | Haha. |
| 03:58.00 | Noah0504 | Also, I don't like upgrading. :P |
| 03:58.08 | physeetcosmo | yeah right, what is safe, right? |
| 03:58.25 | sako | Noah0504: so if i put hostname.server.com in /etc/hostnae |
| 03:58.39 | sako | that would resolve hostname and hostname -f to hostname.server.com no? |
| 03:59.04 | Noah0504 | sako: Yep. Should do it. |
| 03:59.39 | sako | Noah0504: i feel like im doing something wrong though... shouldn't hostname just be foo and then hostname -f foo.server.com? |
| 03:59.44 | Noah0504 | sako: Could you be a little bit more specific about what you're trying to do though? |
| 04:00.35 | Noah0504 | sako: It doesn't really matter. |
| 04:00.54 | Noah0504 | They can be the same. You could do it both ways. |
| 04:01.41 | Noah0504 | But you have the right idea. The hostname of the computer would be hostname and its FQDN would be hostname.server.com |
| 04:01.49 | Noah0504 | But it all should work out either way. |
| 04:01.49 | sako | Noah0504: how would i make it so the hostname is just foo but hostname -f resolves to foo.server.com? |
| 04:02.11 | sako | Noah0504: i guess i would go into /etc/resolv.conf and do search server.com? |
| 04:02.29 | physeetcosmo | Noah0504: isn't that the same as apache's ServerName versus the ServerAlias fields? |
| 04:03.09 | Noah0504 | physeetcosmo: Pretty much. I don't think he's doing it in Apache though. |
| 04:03.24 | Noah0504 | sako: Just go into /etc/hostname and set it to be hostname.server.com |
| 04:03.29 | physeetcosmo | Noah504: ok that's why I'm confused |
| 04:03.45 | Noah0504 | You should be fine. And can I ask why you're doing this? |
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| 04:04.31 | Noah0504 | physeetcosmo: That's what I thought he was trying to do at first. Just a little confused on what his goal is now. Haha. |
| 04:04.43 | piercedwater | Can anyone think of any reasons that my SMB shares that are on Debian 6 would not be seen by my media player? I am able to access the shares from another computer (os x) |
| 04:05.00 | Noah0504 | piercedwater: What is your media player? |
| 04:05.07 | piercedwater | asus hdp-r1 |
| 04:05.47 | piercedwater | the asus can see my os x computer |
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| 04:05.52 | Noah0504 | How do you have your shares configured? |
| 04:05.59 | Noah0504 | Are they just public? |
| 04:06.08 | piercedwater | no guest |
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| 04:06.17 | piercedwater | requires login, which i do from the asus |
| 04:06.36 | Noah0504 | Are you able to try and manually add the shares? |
| 04:06.46 | piercedwater | i cant add the shares by ip with the asus |
| 04:06.47 | Noah0504 | Or will it not find them either way? |
| 04:06.57 | piercedwater | i dont have the option to add by ip |
| 04:07.15 | Noah0504 | What about hostname? Or do you mean you can't do it manually either way? |
| 04:07.35 | piercedwater | i mean my os x computer can access the shares on the server |
| 04:07.40 | piercedwater | but the asus wont see them |
| 04:08.01 | piercedwater | so i guess its not debian |
| 04:08.02 | piercedwater | :( |
| 04:09.09 | Noah0504 | My friend just ordered one of those. I wish I could take a look at it. Umm, try looking at your Samba config one more time. And have your tired searching on Google? Maybe it's a known issue right now? |
| 04:09.17 | physeetcosmo | piercedwater: personally i prefer sshfs over samba, but thats not really automatic like samba |
| 04:09.30 | piercedwater | yeah, google didnt help me very much |
| 04:10.05 | piercedwater | ill keep searching. thanks anyways |
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| 04:11.18 | physeetcosmo | its funny to watch all the people trying to IRC from their Android phones, seems to not be very stable |
| 04:11.25 | Noah0504 | piercedwater: Ha. This may not be exactly what you wanted to hear, but I guess you can telnet into those and add the shares that way. |
| 04:11.35 | piercedwater | i tried that... |
| 04:11.39 | piercedwater | it wont let me edit the fstab |
| 04:11.47 | piercedwater | and wont let me mount -t without adding to fstab |
| 04:11.51 | piercedwater | its craziness |
| 04:11.52 | Noah0504 | As root even? |
| 04:11.55 | piercedwater | even as root |
| 04:11.59 | Noah0504 | Weird. |
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| 04:12.39 | Noah0504 | This makes me wonder... what kind of damage I can do to my Boxee Box... |
| 04:12.45 | Noah0504 | tries to telnet into it! |
| 04:14.13 | physeetcosmo | Noah0504: don't let the magic smoke out! |
| 04:14.19 | physeetcosmo | ;) |
| 04:14.31 | Noah0504 | Haha! |
| 04:14.45 | Noah0504 | I won't simply because I can't stand the way it smells. :P |
| 04:14.55 | physeetcosmo | heh heh |
| 04:15.23 | Cozminsky | so, I've been using klibido as my newzbin client for the last little while, with it being dumped due to the abandonment of kde3 libraries what's a decent replacement? |
| 04:15.27 | Noah0504 | Which reminds me of the Netopia router I killed one day at work. I walked away for 5 minutes, come back and smoke was rolling out the back of it. |
| 04:15.49 | Noah0504 | Smelled so bad... |
| 04:16.16 | physeetcosmo | wow, actually smoked a router, nice |
| 04:16.28 | physeetcosmo | but it was Netopia, of COURSE smoke came out |
| 04:16.50 | physeetcosmo | close relative to a Netgear I'm sure |
| 04:17.17 | dvs | thinks Noah0504 was making coffee for his "cup holder" |
| 04:18.48 | nsadmin | wow, smelled like plastic and everything? |
| 04:19.19 | Noah0504 | nsadmin: Yeah... pretty horrible. |
| 04:19.22 | nsadmin | how did you kill it? |
| 04:19.36 | nsadmin | or it just died? |
| 04:20.05 | nsadmin | that's a fire hazard and a very large potential lawsuit, and recall... |
| 04:20.32 | Noah0504 | Well, I only figured it out after I almost killed another one! Haha. The client has a time clock that was in another part of the building. I'm not sure exactly how or why, but it was shorting the connection to the router and caused the death of it. |
| 04:20.59 | Noah0504 | So, we got that replaced and it took care of the problem. |
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| 04:21.12 | nsadmin | hmm... what part would short other than the power supply... |
| 04:21.39 | Noah0504 | It had to be a combination of the power and maybe POE... |
| 04:21.51 | nsadmin | this time clock was shorting its power connection? |
| 04:21.59 | nsadmin | major fire hazard :) |
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| 04:22.20 | Noah0504 | It was sending power over the Ethernet cable and killing the router... |
| 04:22.35 | Noah0504 | Took a few head scratched to figure it out. |
| 04:22.43 | Noah0504 | Still not sure exactly why though. |
| 04:22.53 | nsadmin | they're not running ntpd? |
| 04:24.04 | LinuxGuy2009 | I have a netbook with a broadcom bcm4312 wireless card and Im not sure which package will get it working I have tried a few including, http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-b43-installer , but it throws an error and says that I have the low power edition and its not supported by the package. What do I need to get it to work? I have the actual driver source I can compile if I have to, but would prefer not to. |
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| 04:25.05 | nsadmin | LinuxGuy2009, you probably need firmware |
| 04:25.14 | LinuxGuy2009 | nsadmin: right |
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| 04:26.04 | nsadmin | that's pretty crappy they would cause it to be unsupported |
| 04:26.06 | dvs | LinuxGuy2009: http://wiki.debian.org/wl |
| 04:26.45 | LinuxGuy2009 | dvs: Thank you |
| 04:26.48 | dvs | np |
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| 04:29.18 | Noah0504 | Eh, I think it's time for me to hit the hay. Good night everyone. I shall return in the morning once my coffee is made. :P |
| 04:29.26 | dvs | heh |
| 04:29.30 | LinuxGuy2009 | hmm guess ill just build the official driver its probably easier anyways. |
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| 04:30.45 | Cerales | Does anyone know of a good free software web interface for IMAP email? |
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| 04:31.06 | ubajas | roundcube, squirrelmail, um, no? |
| 04:31.16 | ubajas | It's PHP"!!! |
| 04:31.25 | Cerales | haha |
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| 04:32.13 | Cerales | roundcube looks suitably wasteful of resources to produce a fancy interface - i'll give it a go |
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| 04:33.11 | piercedwater | i had my permissions set wrong on the smb share |
| 04:33.12 | piercedwater | :P |
| 04:33.30 | ubajas | Just piercing through water, like a dolphin's echo. |
| 04:33.52 | piercedwater | :P |
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| 04:34.29 | ubajas | Quit messages are now pink in my client. It's slightly confusing. |
| 04:34.37 | ubajas | I messed with the colors tonight. |
| 04:34.53 | ubajas | DARK DEVIL |
| 04:34.55 | ubajas | I HAIL YOU |
| 04:35.03 | ubajas | SUMMON THE FORCES OF THE DARKNESS |
| 04:35.08 | ubajas | BRING FORTH THE LIGHTNING |
| 04:35.29 | ubajas | Hi guest. |
| 04:35.30 | nvz | um.. no.. |
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| 04:36.25 | piercedwater | thanks guys |
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| 04:36.32 | simonrvn | um, right. |
| 04:36.45 | nvz | replaces ubajas's keyboard with another beer and a tv remote and sends him away from the computer |
| 04:37.09 | simonrvn | that would do him some good i think |
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| 04:37.12 | ubajas | nvz, your skills of perception do not deceive you. |
| 04:38.10 | ubajas | I'm somewhat of a known freenode drunkard in technical channels under this nick. It's a sad story, but it's been at least months since last I raved about drunkenly on Freenode. |
| 04:38.37 | dvs | is reminded of stoned |
| 04:39.13 | nvz | yeah well in here you can get thrown out pretty quick because its a high volume channel that has a rather good support rating |
| 04:39.19 | simonrvn | is reminded of the /ignore command |
| 04:39.34 | nvz | apparently not good enough for the debian politicians but.. screw them.. heh |
| 04:39.35 | ubajas | Yeah, I guess... I'm not a regular, so... lower threshold... |
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| 04:41.06 | AAA_awright | I'm trying to figure out how to install Unison 2.32 for Lenny, which appearently hasn't been compiled or *something*... http://packages.debian.org/lenny/unison anyone know where I can get a working package? |
| 04:41.39 | AAA_awright | It's all OCAML so *please* don't sugguest I compile it |
| 04:42.11 | Cozminsky | AAA_awright: have you looked in backports? |
| 04:42.24 | nvz | ,versions unison |
| 04:42.26 | judd | Package unison on i386 -- lenny: 2.27.57-1+b1; squeeze: 2.32.52-1; sid: 2.32.52-2; wheezy: 2.32.52-2 |
| 04:42.26 | AAA_awright | I don't think it's in there, the package site doesn't list it at least |
| 04:42.33 | nvz | its not in backports ^^ |
| 04:42.52 | nvz | however it is in squeeze |
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| 04:43.10 | AAA_awright | Would installing the package work? I can't find a download link, in any event. |
| 04:43.15 | AAA_awright | *that package |
| 04:43.22 | nvz | ,versions libc6 |
| 04:43.25 | judd | Package libc6 on i386 -- lenny: 2.7-18lenny7; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny7; squeeze: 2.11.2-10; sid: 2.11.2-11; wheezy: 2.11.2-11; experimental: 2.13-0exp2 |
| 04:43.36 | nvz | the squeeze package will install cleanly on lenny |
| 04:43.47 | nvz | its only dependency is libc6 >= 2.7 |
| 04:44.07 | nvz | which as you can see lenny has |
| 04:44.38 | nvz | AAA_awright: what debian mirror are you using? |
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| 04:44.49 | AAA_awright | Oh I'm looking in the wrong place for download links, found it http://packages.debian.org/lenny/amd64/unison/download |
| 04:44.57 | johnfg | howdy |
| 04:45.19 | johnfg | Is there a way to install the whole xfce Desktop with apt-get? |
| 04:45.33 | nvz | johnfg: on which distro? |
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| 04:45.43 | johnfg | squeeze |
| 04:45.56 | AAA_awright | er, wrong Deb release, but yeah |
| 04:45.56 | nvz | johnfg: apt-get install xfce4 |
| 04:46.02 | toni | hoW to play mame games on debian ? |
| 04:46.25 | nvz | AAA_awright: its on the mirror, if you tell me where you are located or which mirror you use I will provide you with a download link |
| 04:46.40 | johnfg | nvz, thanks! |
| 04:46.44 | AAA_awright | nvz: I got it, but thanks |
| 04:47.23 | nvz | AAA_awright: alright, well that was an easy one.. heh. It only depends on libc6 and doesn't ever require the new libc6 |
| 04:47.36 | toni | hello . how to play mame roms in debian ? |
| 04:47.40 | toni | anyone |
| 04:47.40 | AAA_awright | Thankfully, thanks for checking that nvz |
| 04:47.41 | nvz | s/ever/even/ |
| 04:47.45 | ZykoticK9 | toni, if you add debian-multimedia they have the sdlmame package (much better then xmame) |
| 04:47.55 | AAA_awright | Seems to work |
| 04:47.55 | toni | where to put roms ? |
| 04:48.03 | nvz | AAA_awright: judd did most of the work.. haha.. gotta love the bots |
| 04:48.06 | johnfg | nvz, For gnome, for it to reinstall, would I just do an apt-get install gnome? |
| 04:48.17 | nvz | johnfg: it will not remove gnome |
| 04:48.29 | nvz | johnfg: you just select which to login to from your login screen |
| 04:49.02 | johnfg | Yeah, but yesterday, I removed evolution, because it has too many bugs, imho, and it took some other gnome programs with it. |
| 04:49.29 | johnfg | I'm not sure if just reinstalling evolution will get them all back. |
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| 04:49.40 | simonrvn | toni: the debian/dmm packages have READMEs |
| 04:49.41 | nvz | johnfg: probably only took out gnome itself which is an empty metapackage |
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| 04:50.15 | ZykoticK9 | johnfg, you could try installing the metapackage "gnome-desktop-environment" not sure if that will reinstall evolution on you though. |
| 04:50.18 | nvz | johnfg: wel it probably removed several empty metapackages |
| 04:50.23 | johnfg | So, just to an install of evolution? |
| 04:50.24 | asarch | Hi |
| 04:50.26 | asarch | :-) |
| 04:50.44 | toni | i am noob , how to see the readme for sdlmame ??for example |
| 04:50.46 | nvz | johnfg: if you don't want evolution you don't have to have it.. its by no means required to use GNOME |
| 04:51.07 | simonrvn | install it first |
| 04:51.08 | nvz | toni: for reference documentation is in /usr/share/doc/<packagename> |
| 04:51.21 | toni | great thank you |
| 04:51.39 | johnfg | nvz, I did that in another distro, and no program. But for some reason, it took some other stuff out with it, and my desktop is looking kinda weird. |
| 04:51.42 | trebuchet | My HDD has been alive for a total of 24 days, yet has 36600 load/unload cycle counts. I think this is bad. How do I go about tuning/fixing this for longevity?? It is a 9.5mm laptop HDD in a thinkpad. |
| 04:51.54 | johnfg | no problem, not no program. |
| 04:51.56 | johnfg | Oy! |
| 04:52.47 | nvz | toni: I'd recommend all new users at some point familiarize themselves with the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard) its installable in the debian-policy package and available online. It describes where files are in a linux system |
| 04:52.53 | nsadmin | some programs, no problem? |
| 04:53.57 | johnfg | nsadmin, I should have done the substitute thingy, but I meant to say, that in another distro, I removed evolution and the removal caused no apparent problems. |
| 04:54.22 | johnfg | Now, this desktop looks and acts a bit more like twm. |
| 04:54.33 | nvz | ew |
| 04:54.36 | nsadmin | yay! twm forever! |
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| 04:54.53 | toni | is that an application ? |
| 04:55.01 | nvz | toni: the FHS? |
| 04:55.04 | toni | yes |
| 04:55.07 | johnfg | nsadmin, seriously, if you're not doing cli, is that what you use? twm? |
| 04:55.10 | nvz | toni: its a document |
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| 04:55.21 | toni | aha |
| 04:55.21 | toni | ok |
| 04:55.33 | nvz | toni: you can google it.. it tells you what all the directories in a linux system are for and where to find things |
| 04:55.40 | nsadmin | Johnfg, no; I'm running kde |
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| 04:56.00 | johnfg | nsadmin, How is kde in squeeze? |
| 04:56.16 | nsadmin | I dunno but I'm running it! |
| 04:56.33 | toni | thank you nvz |
| 04:56.47 | johnfg | so, if I want to install that, is it apt-get install kde? |
| 04:57.12 | casts_ | johnfg: "what do you think?" |
| 04:57.24 | nsadmin | toni: that, and these commands: cd and ls, are a damn good thing to spend a coupla hours exploring |
| 04:57.51 | johnfg | casts_, nope, just found it: kde-full. |
| 04:57.56 | johnfg | That better? |
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| 04:58.22 | nsadmin | well there must be something like kde-core and/or kde-standard |
| 04:58.26 | nvz | toni: no problem. The linux filesystem is organized in a sane way and the FHS outlines how that should be done, debian complies with the FHS and the document also familiarizes you with some of the common commands.. Its a good read for new users. |
| 04:59.04 | nsadmin | kde-full includes kitchen, bathroom and basement sinks, as well as all plumbing for drainage |
| 04:59.21 | johnfg | nsadmin, Well, there's plasma and at least one other one; plus just kde for those coming from lenny to squeeze (as I did). |
| 04:59.35 | casts_ | trebuchet: couldn't afford solid state? |
| 04:59.38 | nsadmin | I noticed plasma |
| 04:59.53 | nsadmin | is that a theme? |
| 05:00.09 | johnfg | nsadmin, Hey! with the drainage, I'm going with it! Too much snow, too much melt, too much yucky water standing everywhere. |
| 05:00.23 | johnfg | Freezing again tonight. |
| 05:00.28 | trebuchet | casts_: The 100 USD 40GB intel SSD is in my YeeLoong. It wasn't worth the money considering I like to store a lot of information :\ |
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| 05:00.51 | nsadmin | yucky freezing water, bad juju |
| 05:01.24 | johnfg | If you what I mean by yucky: contributed to by horses, chickens, etc., you get the picture. |
| 05:01.46 | nsadmin | frozen pop tart! |
| 05:02.03 | johnfg | frozen guacamole! |
| 05:02.17 | johnfg | Frozen rodeo! |
| 05:02.23 | nsadmin | frozen green guac poptart! |
| 05:02.34 | johnfg | Now you got it! |
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| 05:02.50 | johnfg | At least I haven't fallen over in it, yet. |
| 05:05.36 | johnfg | Gotta run. Thanks for the help and lightening things up! Have a great evening, day or whatever! |
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| 05:07.52 | y7 | should i be able to connect to debian's remote desktop from real vnc in windows? |
| 05:07.54 | blackplague1347 | Is there any way to find out which DVD has the IcedTea6 (java) browser plugin on it? |
| 05:09.02 | nvz | y7: yes that would typically work. Gnome's Remote Desktop uses vino-server which is a vnc server |
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| 05:09.49 | msh07 | y7, of course |
| 05:10.16 | y7 | nvz, one last thing.... when i set the password for remote desktop in the debian gui.... it appears to only allow me to enter 8 characters for the password.... is it accepting more than those 8 characters and not showing it or is 8 the max? |
| 05:10.18 | nvz | blackplague1347: someone used to maintain indexes of the cd's but these days I'm not sure.. the distro is now 52cds or 8dvds and thats a lot to maintain |
| 05:10.45 | nvz | blackplague1347: surely you do not need to download and burn an entire dvd for one package |
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| 05:11.36 | dvs | !cd contents |
| 05:11.36 | dpkg | To find out what is on what disk, examine the package lists within the list-{cd,dvd} subdirectories for the relevant architecture at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ (e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/list-cd/). |
| 05:11.55 | jvm_ | hi. on a multi-user system, can i avoid users being able to list /home? does it make any sense, since /etc/passwd would still be readable? |
| 05:12.07 | blackplague1347 | nvz: Yeah, 8 dvds is a lot. But unless I can find some other way to get the iced tea plugin and the other necessary packages, then I'll have to get the dvd. I want to put Debian on my laptop, but in order to access my school's network, I have to login with a java applet, which means I need that browser plugin. |
| 05:12.41 | nvz | jvm_: you don't want users knowing other user |
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| 05:13.03 | nvz | heh f'n keyboard.. |
| 05:13.48 | nvz | blackplague1347: unfortunately things don't really work like that.. it could very well be on cd x while its dependencies on y and z.. |
| 05:13.51 | jvm_ | nvz, so how to avoid it completely? i was under the impression i.e. /etc/passwd has to be readable to all, and it contains a full listing of users, anyway. |
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| 05:14.16 | nvz | jvm_: idk sounds like you got bigger problems if you're worried about that |
| 05:14.52 | nvz | makes me laugh when admins try and do crazy things to break a system instead of thinking logically about the real issue |
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| 05:15.33 | jvm_ | nvz, your second statement kinda contradicts the first. i am not actually worried about my users. the question was whether on a multi-user system it usually is possible to list /home or not. |
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| 05:15.57 | nvz | jvm_: yes it is.. |
| 05:16.06 | y7 | nvz, nevermind, i figured it out. it has a max of 8 characters for the password... thanks for your help |
| 05:16.11 | blackplague1347 | nvz: Ahh. Well I would just go to Dunkin Donuts or someplace with free wi-fi and install the plugin but.... Naturally, my wireless card doesn't work out of the box with most distros, Debian included. |
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| 05:16.17 | jvm_ | nvz, thanks a lot. i will stop thinking about it. |
| 05:16.38 | nvz | jvm_: if you wanted to do something like that you could put secret agent users's homes elsewhere if you wanted |
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| 05:16.51 | nvz | jvm_: you can also jail untrusted users and services.. |
| 05:17.27 | jvm_ | nvz, is there a way to tell scponly "only show directories deeper than ~"? |
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| 05:18.16 | nvz | jvm_: I'm not familiar with scponly but since I can probably assume its an SSH related thing I'm sure there are more ways than one |
| 05:18.41 | jvm_ | hehe, thank you. |
| 05:18.43 | jvm_ | how do i list all users that belong to a group? |
| 05:19.44 | nvz | jvm_: grep groupname /etc/group |
| 05:20.04 | toni | hey 1 more thing pls .........bash: sdlmame: command not found |
| 05:20.20 | blackplague1347 | I'm using Linux Mint 10, which is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian. Is there any way to figure out if Mint's packages are compatible with Debian? If so I could download the packages and then install them from a usb stick or something. |
| 05:20.47 | jvm_ | nvz, is it possible there are some users missing? i am sure there are more users in this one group... |
| 05:21.23 | nvz | jvm_: well considering they'd have to be in /etc/group for them to be a member, no.. |
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| 05:24.09 | simonrvn | !mint |
| 05:24.10 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also being available, based on <testing>. See also <based on Debian>. |
| 05:24.16 | simonrvn | blackplague1347: ^^^ |
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| 05:37.07 | sontek | in network manager when I try to add a vpn connection "add" is greyed out but I have network-manager-pptp, network-manager-openvpn, and network-manager-vpnc all installed |
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| 05:40.55 | Magic_ | Hello, I am attempting to format a hdd for debian and fdisk ives me a short write error, debian installer is unable to format it either. |
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| 05:42.04 | xk | fdisk doesn't format filesystems. |
| 05:42.30 | xk | and 'fdisk' is a manual option. |
| 05:42.32 | Magic_ | partition* |
| 05:42.59 | Magic_ | Is there any tool i can use to "nuke" the drive? :p |
| 05:43.12 | Magic_ | I am not in the debian installer atm, it is not too helpful. |
| 05:43.15 | xk | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/XdX bs=1k count=1 |
| 05:43.21 | Magic_ | ok |
| 05:43.21 | y7 | i can't get my terminal to respond, i did: 'joe /etc/network/interfaces > filename' and when i hit ctrl+z or ctrl+x or ctrl+c it won't respond. is there anything else i can do to get it to respond? |
| 05:43.29 | xk | but you have to be _careful_ what you use as the device. |
| 05:44.08 | Magic_ | 1+0 records in, 1+0 records out |
| 05:45.00 | simonrvn | kill joe |
| 05:45.18 | Magic_ | (nano > joe) |
| 05:45.19 | xk | if you can access the device there |
| 05:45.27 | xk | now do fdisk /dev/XdX |
| 05:45.48 | Magic_ | ok |
| 05:46.02 | xk | should say some warning about 0x0 |
| 05:46.09 | y7 | kill joe doesn't work... i don't know how to use nano :( |
| 05:46.27 | xk | nano is the easiest editor on earth |
| 05:46.36 | y7 | not easier than joe.... imo |
| 05:46.52 | Magic_ | They are different? |
| 05:47.03 | xk | jpico :) joe with pico/nano bindings :) |
| 05:47.15 | Magic_ | oh |
| 05:47.34 | y7 | i did a ps aux and killed the job number. that did it. thanks for the help guys |
| 05:47.38 | Magic_ | well fdisk is mad |
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| 05:49.09 | Magic_ | xk, I think i will take it out of the case and put the hard drive in my microwave |
| 05:49.40 | y7 | ok, i used 'nano /etc/network/interfaces > networkinterfaces' and it did the same thing joe did. it says it's completed and then it doesn't give the terminal back... ideas? |
| 05:49.52 | xk | lol |
| 05:50.01 | simonrvn | y7: why are you doing that? |
| 05:50.04 | xk | lol |
| 05:50.12 | simonrvn | makes no sense |
| 05:50.26 | Magic_ | xk: unless you have an idea how to nuke it w/o microwaves? |
| 05:50.28 | y7 | simonrvn, i'm trying to save my old setup before i change it in case i need to go back to it. i'm trying to save the settings to a file |
| 05:50.40 | xk | Magic_: the dd command sohuld have nuked the partition table. |
| 05:50.42 | simonrvn | cp it over first |
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| 05:51.00 | Magic_ | or any waves at or above the ultraviolet |
| 05:51.07 | Magic_ | spectrum* |
| 05:51.08 | y7 | i know how to copy it, but i'm curious why my attempts to do it through nano or joe are failing? |
| 05:51.54 | simonrvn | uh, you wouldn't do it that way. editors usually grab stdin, out, err |
| 05:52.08 | Magic_ | omg xk, it is formating |
| 05:52.10 | simonrvn | you'd do the equivalent of "save as" |
| 05:52.16 | simonrvn | formatting |
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| 05:52.27 | Magic_ | yes i know :p |
| 05:52.36 | simonrvn | right |
| 05:52.41 | y7 | ok, i understand now. thank you |
| 05:52.47 | lapsusbrutus | cp first, than dd to a file if you want to be sure to at least find your files in case you do dd wrong :) |
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| 05:54.51 | simonrvn | np |
| 05:55.21 | Magic_ | I am on computer 8/9. (creating cluster) |
| 05:55.37 | Magic_ | I obtained 9 old pentium 4s |
| 05:56.22 | lapsusbrutus | Magic_: cool clustering.. Always wanted to do that. Is it easy? |
| 05:56.35 | Magic_ | Not sure still installing the OS |
| 05:56.38 | Magic_ | :p |
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| 05:57.06 | Magic_ | Well i have yet to set it all up, I just created a bunch of "node" computers and a single full installation of an os called caos |
| 05:57.20 | simonrvn | !fundamentals |
| 05:57.20 | dpkg | You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/ Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ |
| 05:57.25 | WormFood | I got a stack of about 20 pentium 3 systems, I wanted to make a cluster out of 'em, but decided they were not powerful enough to do much work, and if I did it, it would just be for experience. |
| 05:57.48 | Magic_ | simonrvn, I have been using linux for a year or two :p |
| 05:57.57 | Magic_ | !programming |
| 05:57.57 | dpkg | from memory, programming is another word for coding |
| 05:58.09 | Magic_ | I know |
| 05:58.15 | Magic_ | :( |
| 05:58.19 | simonrvn | 9 years here |
| 05:58.19 | WormFood | only a year or two....a noob ;) |
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| 05:58.46 | kingsley_ | 15 years |
| 05:58.47 | WormFood | has been running Linux since 1995 (and other unix-like systems since the mid-late 1980s) |
| 05:58.51 | simonrvn | oh, damn. shouldn't have quit |
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| 05:59.45 | simonrvn | my first exposure to unix was 1992-3, but not anything serious until '02 |
| 06:00.10 | WormFood | my first exposure to unix was in the 1970s ('77 or '78, I don't remember) |
| 06:00.14 | simonrvn | i don't count it as experience per se |
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| 06:00.27 | nvz | Mine was HP-UX on an Apollo workstation we ended up giving away cause we had no clue what to do with it |
| 06:00.29 | WormFood | I don't count my exposure to it experience either |
| 06:00.35 | simonrvn | oh so you're like a good 10-15 y older than me |
| 06:00.54 | WormFood | I got a pair of HP Apollo workstations....looked over their hard drives, and they were running windows 3.1 in emulation |
| 06:00.59 | simonrvn | i was 5 in '77 ;) |
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| 06:01.09 | WormFood | in '77, I was 9 years old |
| 06:01.19 | kingsley_ | I just drafted an email saying I was programming when the recipient was still a flash in his parent's eye at an Eagles concert. |
| 06:01.30 | simonrvn | ok, just early start |
| 06:01.37 | nvz | is there seriously nothing going on here but a good ol days talk on a sunday morning? |
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| 06:01.45 | simonrvn | yup |
| 06:01.50 | WormFood | appears that way ;) |
| 06:01.50 | nvz | guess it beats trolls |
| 06:01.52 | simonrvn | cipher_: wb |
| 06:02.11 | cipher_ | My mask doesn't change? |
| 06:02.28 | simonrvn | cipher_: it did, but your username and part of your cloak didn't ;) |
| 06:02.40 | cipher_ | :( |
| 06:02.51 | cipher_ | I need to put more thought into these things |
| 06:03.06 | simonrvn | cipher_: btw, we've all been newbies. and we can be a newbie at whatever. don't take it too hard |
| 06:03.10 | WormFood | while I didn't start running Linux until '95, I had my eye on it since '92 or '93 |
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| 06:03.55 | WormFood | I found learning Linux to be pretty straight forward and easy, because my background in other unix-like OSes....while not the same, the basics are |
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| 06:04.17 | simonrvn | when i first heard of unix, i was totally enthralled, right away, and wondered how i could get me some of that =;) |
| 06:04.34 | nvz | cipher_: its not what kinda newbie one is but what kinda guru they become.. |
| 06:04.38 | simonrvn | yes. same basics helps a lot |
| 06:04.42 | cipher_ | I originally got a distro so I could learn bsd sockets without having any troubles |
| 06:04.47 | nvz | cause many of us end up bitter old gurus |
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| 06:05.06 | nvz | who sit around talking about the good ol days on #debian on sunday morning |
| 06:05.11 | nvz | heh |
| 06:05.23 | cipher_ | sunday? |
| 06:05.26 | cipher_ | :@ |
| 06:05.33 | nvz | yeah for simonrvn and I anyhow |
| 06:06.01 | nvz | its 1am here |
| 06:06.05 | cipher_ | I thought "tomorrow" was Saturday. |
| 06:06.09 | nvz | hah |
| 06:08.01 | simonrvn | i'm not bitter, just grumpy sometimes |
| 06:08.04 | WormFood | when I first started learning unix-like systems, I gave up....then came back to it a few months later, and found it easy to do (I was a teenager then) |
| 06:08.06 | cipher_ | I got http://helmer.sfe.se/ |
| 06:08.13 | tweek | i have a question: is there an eays way (like, with aptitude) to find out which repo a specified package is from, and whether it is from main, contrib, or non-free? |
| 06:08.24 | tweek | aptitude show doesn't have that information |
| 06:09.02 | simonrvn | WormFood: yeh, i sort of did that. started off on m68k, and trying to install debian onto it... too much of a chore to try it out... so i waited until i could get a ppc |
| 06:09.13 | simonrvn | apt-cache policy foo |
| 06:09.14 | cipher_ | you could check /var/lib/dkpg/status |
| 06:09.15 | cipher_ | ? |
| 06:09.27 | cipher_ | dpkg* |
| 06:09.27 | WormFood | I also have a 68k and PPC running Linux ;) |
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| 06:10.11 | cipher_ | WormFood 68k as in? |
| 06:10.11 | simonrvn | beige g3 sitting next to my monitor, its psu buzzing away because i haven't been able to take it down to clean it in a few weeks ;p |
| 06:10.39 | WormFood | I started with an OS called OS-9, that ran on the motorola 6809 cpu (very underrated cpu)....then moved up to the same OS on a 68000....OS-9 is modeled after unix, but not a clone |
| 06:11.06 | cipher_ | Well the oldest OS I can ever remember using was Windows ME |
| 06:11.14 | WormFood | cipher_, my 68000 machine, was called a PT68K4....I built it from a kit...and by "kit", I mean bare circuit board |
| 06:11.25 | cipher_ | :O |
| 06:11.26 | WormFood | I remember using dos 3.x |
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| 06:11.30 | simonrvn | ah 68040 |
| 06:11.44 | simonrvn | decent processors |
| 06:11.49 | WormFood | it was really cool, because it uses ISA slots....so with proper drivers, I could use IBM cards in it |
| 06:11.53 | cipher_ | I take it I may have less years under my belt here... |
| 06:11.58 | simonrvn | though there's slightly more modern ones |
| 06:12.04 | nvz | I remember using paper and pencils! |
| 06:12.10 | simonrvn | amigas have those 060s |
| 06:12.14 | nvz | haha |
| 06:12.18 | cipher_ | paper? |
| 06:12.19 | WormFood | http://wormfood.net/old_computers/ the screenshot is the OS I used |
| 06:12.23 | simonrvn | !nvz++ |
| 06:12.29 | nvz | playing tic tac toe where you actually had to draw the board.. |
| 06:12.29 | cipher_ | not familiar with that computer. |
| 06:12.40 | WormFood | the gimix computer there, I didn't use....I saved that from the landfill |
| 06:12.45 | simonrvn | it uses the one in between your ears |
| 06:13.00 | tweek | simonrvn: thanks, is what i looked for (also tried aptitude -v show, but that only gives me 'testing', not 'testing/main') |
| 06:13.41 | simonrvn | we gave away the quadra 800 we had |
| 06:13.57 | WormFood | http://wormfood.net/old_computers/pt68k4.jpg <-- the motherboard was designed to handle 12 meg of ram, but they never made the ram expansion card....but I know the guy who designed the computer, and he said others upgraded the memory by piggybacking it....so I looked at the schematics, and figured out how to do it with just 3 extra chips (plus ram) |
| 06:14.38 | WormFood | in fact, the guy who designed the computer loved me, because I wrote and ported software to that machine that nobody else did....I even wrote an animation viewer for it, written in C and assembly language :D |
| 06:15.21 | WormFood | I even ported a ray tracer from the PC for it....and when he was designing the 68020+ based system, he used my ray tracer to stress test it at night :D |
| 06:15.23 | cipher_ | WormFood, OpenGL? |
| 06:15.29 | WormFood | no....waaay before openvl |
| 06:15.32 | WormFood | opengl |
| 06:15.34 | cipher_ | :O |
| 06:15.42 | WormFood | we had to write our own functions |
| 06:15.45 | WormFood | this was early 90s |
| 06:15.52 | cipher_ | ah |
| 06:15.53 | WormFood | I wrote my animation viewer in '92 I think |
| 06:16.19 | WormFood | and it was a great ego boots, to go to trade shows, and see 10 computers there, all running my program I wrote from scratch :D |
| 06:16.21 | simonrvn | wow, cool |
| 06:16.40 | cipher_ | nice |
| 06:16.50 | WormFood | the animation format was the desktop animator flicker (.flc) format |
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| 06:17.05 | cipher_ | #caos-install cluster xD |
| 06:17.07 | WormFood | 你好 Luming |
| 06:17.08 | cipher_ | shit |
| 06:17.37 | WormFood | I wrote the decompression and video output routines in assembly, because C was too slow |
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| 06:17.50 | simonrvn | yeh, no doubt |
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| 06:18.23 | WormFood | oh yeah, in that picture, you can also see the real time clock....it had an internal battery....so I cut off the dead battery, and filed away at the chip to expose the battery contacts, then added an external battery :D |
| 06:18.34 | cipher_ | I wrote a "game" in opengl because SDL was too slow :p |
| 06:18.52 | WormFood | and there was one VERY, VERY, VERY weird thing about that computer |
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| 06:19.07 | WormFood | the computer was designed to be built in stages....so you didn't have to build everything at once |
| 06:19.34 | WormFood | in the minimum configuration, it had static ram, eprom "bios", serial chip (uart), and some glue chips |
| 06:19.53 | cipher_ | I take it building a computer used to be slightly more difficult. |
| 06:20.00 | WormFood | you could still to stuff with it in that state, but not much.....but if you turned off the light, the computer would lock up |
| 06:20.08 | simonrvn | cipher_: yup |
| 06:20.13 | WormFood | if you covered the windows on the eproms, the computer simply would not work |
| 06:20.25 | simonrvn | freaky |
| 06:20.27 | WormFood | if you put a flashlight on the eproms, and closed the case, it would work |
| 06:20.38 | WormFood | that the freaky thing is....EPROMS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY! |
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| 06:20.52 | WormFood | honestly, if I didn't see it with my own eyes, I wouldn't believe it. |
| 06:21.40 | simonrvn | very weird |
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| 06:21.54 | WormFood | the guy who wrote the "BIOS" for it, lived very close to me...like 15 minute ride away (we both live in the middle of nowhere...he lived in Oxford, and I lived in Summerfield (florida))....he came to my house, and saw it, and said "it does not work that way"...I said "I KNOW! BUT YOU SEE IT WORK THAT WAY!" |
| 06:22.30 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 06:22.36 | WormFood | after I finished the computer...added all the other chips, everything worked right (I think it was the addition of the dram that made it work ok) |
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| 06:22.50 | cipher_ | I think someone is preforming a MITM attack on my network :/ |
| 06:22.50 | WormFood | I didn't try replacing the eproms, because I didn't have spares at that time. |
| 06:22.59 | WormFood | what makes you say that cipher_? |
| 06:23.06 | cipher_ | arp tables |
| 06:23.11 | cipher_ | brb |
| 06:23.13 | WormFood | could be |
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| 06:27.55 | lapsusbrutus | gn guys |
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| 06:28.29 | cipher_ | WormFood: tcp traffic, on destination port 80 is now being redirected to a nice server i set up :p |
| 06:29.48 | ``y7 | i updated /etc/network/interfaces and then ran '/etc/init.d/networking restart' and it didn't change the static ip on eth0.... ideas? do i need to use ifdown ifup? |
| 06:30.21 | WormFood | cipher_, I did the same thing on my network too....until the hard drive in my router died :( |
| 06:31.17 | WormFood | it was great...windows updates were so fast, because the caching web proxy saved them for me.....I'd take a fresh windows install, and do the update, and hear the hard drive just chugging away, as it spewed out all the microsoft garbage ;) |
| 06:31.55 | WormFood | ``y7, when changing your settings, you want to take down your interface first...change it, then bring it up |
| 06:32.06 | cipher_ | lol nice |
| 06:32.22 | WormFood | otherwise, it will look at your config file, and see there is nothing that matches, so it won't take down the old settings |
| 06:32.26 | WormFood | does that make sense? |
| 06:32.27 | ``y7 | WormFood, so now that i've already changed the settings, would it be best for me to change them back, take it down and then go backup? |
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| 06:32.44 | ``y7 | then change, then go back up* |
| 06:32.54 | WormFood | ``y7, if you know no other way, that will work...however, you can do it manually (I don't know how skilled you are with Linux/debian) |
| 06:33.05 | ``y7 | very unskilled :) |
| 06:33.10 | cipher_ | WormFood, meterpreter shell opened :P |
| 06:33.18 | ``y7 | would a simple reboot work? |
| 06:33.26 | WormFood | yes, that will work too |
| 06:33.32 | ``y7 | good deal. thx for the help |
| 06:33.37 | WormFood | but I hate doing that, because to me that is a windows mentality ;) |
| 06:34.00 | WormFood | "got a problem? did you try rebooting?"....rarely works on Linux |
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| 06:34.46 | ``y7 | ya i hear ya. sorry for n00bing it like that. i'm trying to learn, but i need to get it's ip setup first and then i can proceed :) |
| 06:34.47 | WormFood | ``y7, one thing I like to do....is make all my changes to the config file, but don't save it...take down the interface, save the config, and then bring up the interface ;) |
| 06:35.03 | WormFood | that way, the interface isn't down but for a few seconds :D |
| 06:35.08 | ``y7 | oh nice |
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| 06:35.26 | ``y7 | well i was ssh'd into the machine.... so that's one more reason i wanted to reboot |
| 06:35.32 | ``y7 | this saves me from having to get out of my chair :) |
| 06:35.52 | WormFood | but sometimes I'll forget...in which case, I'll undo my changes to the config...save it...take it down...redo my changes...save it...and bring it back up |
| 06:36.24 | WormFood | yeah, if you've SSH'ed in, then you'll probably drop your connection |
| 06:37.02 | WormFood | in a case like that, where you really can't take down the interface, you can do it other ways (I hope you're using 'screen') |
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| 06:38.18 | ``y7 | i use screen, but i don't know how screen relates to the current situation |
| 06:38.29 | ``y7 | i wasn't using it to change my static ip anyway |
| 06:38.37 | WormFood | you could save your config to another file....then do an ifdown eth0 ; cp new_config old_config ; ifup eth0 |
| 06:39.01 | ``y7 | i'm not that fancy yet :p |
| 06:39.18 | WormFood | if you're not using screen, your shell will be killed as soon as you lose your network connection, in which case it probably wouldn't run everything you expect |
| 06:39.47 | cipher_ | WormFood, may I ask you a somewhat OT question? |
| 06:39.52 | ``y7 | well when i was using ubuntu, it'd restart the network by doing that |
| 06:40.05 | ``y7 | so i'd lose connection, but could quickly reconnect |
| 06:40.08 | WormFood | ``y7, another thing you can do, is use a network alias |
| 06:40.13 | WormFood | like eth0:0 |
| 06:40.20 | WormFood | sure cipher_ |
| 06:40.52 | WormFood | cipher_, you can hit me up in #debian-offtopic, if you'd like |
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| 06:43.41 | kblessinggr | I've been trying to change a user's password with usermod and with the passwd command and I keep coming accross the error "passwd: User not known to the underlying authentication module" when using passwd |
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| 06:46.29 | lansink_ | kblessinggr: remove and readd :) simple solution |
| 06:46.44 | kblessinggr | and if I got services currently running as that user, plus their home dir? |
| 06:47.00 | ``y7 | i think he means remove the password only? |
| 06:47.10 | kblessinggr | that even possible/ |
| 06:47.10 | ``y7 | with -d |
| 06:47.26 | kblessinggr | -d in usermod is to tell it a new home dir |
| 06:47.35 | lansink_ | passwd |
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| 06:47.41 | kblessinggr | i see now |
| 06:47.57 | kblessinggr | it basically just says password expiry information changed |
| 06:48.34 | lansink | what version are you using? |
| 06:48.35 | lansink | debian that is |
| 06:48.42 | kblessinggr | squeeze |
| 06:48.46 | kblessinggr | not sid |
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| 06:49.19 | kblessinggr | also problem with passwd, it wants the current kerberos password, and I'm trying to change it as root |
| 06:49.49 | nvz | !seen sussudio |
| 06:49.49 | dpkg | sussudio is currently on #debian, last said: 'oftc was nolilo.net at some point, right'. |
| 06:49.51 | lansink | u running kerberos? oh sorry nvm me then, never tried that |
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| 06:50.05 | kblessinggr | I certainly didn't set it , so it was kerberos by default |
| 06:50.33 | _jesse_ | debian doesn't use kerberos by default |
| 06:50.53 | kblessinggr | well I never set it personally I just had the official openvz template for deb lenny and upgraded it to squeeze |
| 06:51.18 | kblessinggr | also I would think mkpasswd would work if I wanted to encrypt a password for use with usermod --password |
| 06:51.51 | ``y7 | i'm not sure if this relates or not, but is the password locked? |
| 06:52.09 | homie | yes |
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| 06:52.17 | kblessinggr | well it does look like it did change the pass, just changing with passwd will be annoying |
| 06:52.22 | homie | as soon as you set one it is locked or should be |
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| 06:54.01 | lansink | tbh never userd usermod, i use gpasswd, passwd and chsh and stuff like that |
| 06:54.09 | lansink | had no idea usermod existed |
| 06:54.27 | lansink | you learn something everyday |
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| 06:54.55 | ``y7 | i've never used any of them, i was just looking at the man |
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| 06:56.36 | casts | any ideas why a reboot would equal me losing sound |
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| 06:57.51 | cipher_ | casts: what does alsa mixer say :p |
| 06:58.20 | homie | the service maybe not in the autostart for init level |
| 06:58.34 | homie | the module may lack from the initrd |
| 06:58.34 | casts | cipher_: exactly what it normally does |
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| 06:59.01 | homie | your /etc/modules file does not contain the modulename ? |
| 06:59.27 | cipher_ | I was just wondering if something was not actually just muted before you tried anything :p. (don't listen to my advice) |
| 06:59.30 | vyrgozunqk | Morning... |
| 06:59.41 | homie | normally they should get autodetected anyway, unless you have some hardware which requires not only module but a firmware too |
| 07:01.03 | casts | homie: yip, it was. |
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| 07:15.17 | Tixer | Hey. I just installed Debian, and 2/2 eth cards aren't showing up in ifconfig. How can I go about fixing this? |
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| 07:15.36 | _L30_ | how do i patch kernel to lzma |
| 07:15.42 | treebeen | Tixer: ifconfig -a? |
| 07:15.44 | Tixer | They're two older cards, one is made by Linksys and the other by Intel (integrated), so I can't imagine that there aren't drivers |
| 07:15.50 | _L30_ | if the kernel supports lzma ... how do i configure it? |
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| 07:17.11 | Tixer | treebeen: reports eth0 and eth1, but with no IPs |
| 07:18.08 | treebeen | Tixer: then they are down, are you using GNOME or what? |
| 07:18.17 | Tixer | gnome right now |
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| 07:18.55 | Tixer | it's a standard install of debian 6 + ssh |
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| 07:19.25 | treebeen | Tixer: hmm, is network manager running? not sure if that is the case in standard install |
| 07:20.18 | Tixer | nope, ps aux | grep net returns nothing |
| 07:20.58 | arumaniac | openvas-admisnitrator where is it? |
| 07:21.10 | treebeen | Tixer: ok, then look into /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:21.38 | Tixer | treebeen: I have auto lo and iface lo inet loopback |
| 07:22.01 | treebeen | Tixer: so they are missing there and won't get activated |
| 07:22.06 | treebeen | !networking |
| 07:22.06 | dpkg | For basic networking, "man interfaces", see http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration and http://www.debian-administration.org/article/An_introduction_to_Debian_networking_setup . Also ask me about <interfaces>. |
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| 07:22.21 | treebeen | Tixer: ^ |
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| 07:25.29 | Tixer | just added entries for eth0, then what |
| 07:26.07 | admin0 | hi .. i accidently overwrote my rsyslog.conf and apt-get remove rsyslog and apt-get install rsyslog does not being it back .. can somebin pastebin their default rsyslog.conf please or let me know how to get it back |
| 07:26.15 | treebeen | Tixer: service networking start |
| 07:26.20 | admin0 | can anyone* |
| 07:26.30 | casts | welcome to #spoonfeed |
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| 07:27.00 | Tixer_ | just added data for eth1, then what |
| 07:27.35 | _L30_ | how do i patch kernel to lzma |
| 07:27.41 | casts | that was directed at you, Tixer_ |
| 07:27.55 | Tixer_ | (sorry, disconnected) |
| 07:28.01 | woonix | admin0: apt-get --purge remove rsyslog & apt-get install rsyslog |
| 07:28.06 | Tixer_ | can you repeat that |
| 07:28.40 | treebeen | woonix: aptitude purge rsyslog... :)Q |
| 07:28.56 | woonix | admin0: Or just delete the config file yourself before reinstalling |
| 07:28.57 | casts | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:29.01 | casts | dpkg knows it |
| 07:29.01 | dpkg | wish i knew, casts |
| 07:29.03 | woonix | treebeen: sounds modern :) |
| 07:29.08 | admin0 | woonix: it worked :) |
| 07:29.10 | admin0 | thank you |
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| 07:29.21 | admin0 | sends a big pizza to woonix |
| 07:29.29 | woonix | yay! just what I wanted |
| 07:29.31 | trebuchet | man that'd be nice |
| 07:29.44 | woonix | looks at the clock and wonders if any pizza place is open. |
| 07:30.11 | admin0 | sends a big pizza to cipher_ |
| 07:30.16 | cipher_ | :D!!!!! |
| 07:30.23 | cipher_ | eats it |
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| 07:31.34 | Tixer_ | casts: can you repeat whatever was directed at me? I lost a few minutes of chat. |
| 07:31.38 | _L30_ | how do i compile kernel with lzma? |
| 07:31.48 | casts | 18:26:29 < casts> welcome to #spoonfeed |
| 07:32.01 | Tixer_ | ah |
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| 07:43.30 | toni | How to mount the effin DVD Rom |
| 07:43.32 | toni | pls help |
| 07:43.48 | Sauvin | What effin DVD ROM? |
| 07:43.54 | toni | the dvd rom |
| 07:43.54 | Zao | F:, clearly |
| 07:44.09 | toni | mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/dvdrom /mnt/dvdrom |
| 07:44.12 | toni | this dosent work |
| 07:44.21 | Zao | Typically you use the mount command, with a decent filesystem as parameter to -t, and indicating a device and a mountpoint. |
| 07:44.33 | Sauvin | toni, what error do you get, and what is the nature of this DVDROM? |
| 07:44.41 | Zao | Note that iso9660 is a CD format. |
| 07:44.48 | toni | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, |
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| 07:44.49 | toni | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:44.49 | toni | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:45.13 | Zao | You might want udf, or whatever the DVD filesystems are named. |
| 07:45.27 | Sauvin | Or even just forget the fstype entirely and let mount guess. |
| 07:45.33 | toni | ok how ? |
| 07:45.49 | toni | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:45.53 | toni | this is my dvd room |
| 07:45.55 | toni | rom |
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| 07:46.11 | Zao | toni: The kind of device is completely irrelevant. |
| 07:46.24 | Zao | toni: You either have to find the right filesystem, or let mount guess. |
| 07:46.36 | toni | what you mean let the mount gues ? |
| 07:46.38 | Zao | (I keep forgetting that the mount in the Linux world guesses) |
| 07:47.06 | Zao | toni: I recommend reading the man page. |
| 07:47.13 | Zao | toni: Note that -t is optional there. |
| 07:47.19 | toni | i understand |
| 07:47.32 | Zao | mount [-fnrsvw] [-t vfstype] [-o options] device dir <- see |
| 07:47.40 | trebuchet | it guesses and it fails and corrupts my 4.4BSD UFS2 OpenBSD fs |
| 07:47.56 | trebuchet | (it did, now they guess better) |
| 07:48.30 | Sauvin | I wasn't aware linux even had UFS2 support. |
| 07:48.33 | toni | so if i want to boot to another os |
| 07:48.39 | Mortvert | *sighs* |
| 07:48.44 | toni | i cant .... |
| 07:48.49 | toni | i dont know why this shit system |
| 07:48.55 | Mortvert | guys |
| 07:49.03 | Mortvert | how i can grab newer binutils? |
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| 07:49.17 | toni | i am trying to boot to another os and it doesent recognize the dvd rom |
| 07:49.20 | toni | is it possible ? |
| 07:49.22 | Mortvert | the ones i have won't compile grub |
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| 07:49.50 | Sauvin | toni, booting will be at least partially influenced by your computer's firmware. |
| 07:49.52 | Zao | toni: Depends on what you mean, and what happens. |
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| 07:50.29 | toni | i am trying to install another os but setup does not start |
| 07:50.46 | toni | i chose dvd |
| 07:50.50 | toni | and nothing ... happens |
| 07:50.55 | Sauvin | What's the other OS? |
| 07:51.01 | toni | windows .... |
| 07:51.05 | Zao | Ensure that you've burned the media correctly? |
| 07:51.08 | Mortvert | hm |
| 07:51.15 | Sauvin | I'm done. |
| 07:51.23 | toni | i tryed with notebook and it boots normal |
| 07:51.36 | Zao | In any way, this isn't really on-topic for Debian, unless you need help using whatever burnination tools there are. |
| 07:51.38 | Mortvert | configure: error: GRUB requies a working absolute objcopy; upgrade your binutils |
| 07:51.42 | Mortvert | How do i do that? :| |
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| 07:56.12 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is it possible to use a USB hard drive as a repository source, even when the drive is not always plugged in? Maybe specify a UUID or some other way? |
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| 07:58.00 | maxxer | hi. anyone using xen on squeeze? |
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| 07:58.07 | casts | maxxer: YES. |
| 07:58.08 | maxxer | i'm having networking problems on domu |
| 07:58.18 | casts | LinuxGuy2009: yes. |
| 07:58.31 | casts | maxxer: did you see the debian wiki |
| 07:58.37 | maxxer | casts, my domu's networking sucks. I get disconnected quite often |
| 07:58.40 | maxxer | no, what page? |
| 07:58.48 | casts | the xen page |
| 07:58.52 | casts | ah. |
| 07:58.56 | casts | dunno @ disconnects |
| 07:59.02 | LinuxGuy2009 | casts: Any idea what a sources.list entry might look like if I did that? the format I mean? |
| 07:59.41 | maxxer | casts, networking performance is ok, but for some times connection lacks, then returns... then I get disconnected by ssh |
| 08:00.14 | maxxer | casts, you have no problems on guests? what kernel are you using? |
| 08:00.18 | jmarsden | LinuxGuy2009: man sources.list and use a file URI |
| 08:00.33 | cahoot | !apt-mirror |
| 08:00.33 | dpkg | apt-mirror is a tool for making a local mirror of any <APT> source. To mirror multiple architectures, specify "deb-$arch ..." in /etc/apt/mirror.list; e.g. "deb-amd64 http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free". Discussion forum: http://sf.net/projects/apt-mirror/forums/forum/197335 . http://apt-mirror.sf.net/ See also <debian mirrors>. |
| 08:01.39 | LinuxGuy2009 | jmarsden: Hmm I already know about using a file URI when the location is on an internal hard drive but does it also cover using a removeable drive using a UUID or something in there? |
| 08:02.10 | jmarsden | LinuxGuy2009: Mount your USb stick to /media/myusb # or wherever you want it :) |
| 08:02.19 | jmarsden | Then a file URI can point to that. |
| 08:02.57 | jmarsden | File URIs point to a directory that is in your filesystem. They do not care what kind of device the files are on. |
| 08:03.31 | LinuxGuy2009 | jmarsden: Oh I see just set up an fstab entry to mount the drive to a fixed location? |
| 08:03.40 | jmarsden | Sure |
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| 08:05.18 | LinuxGuy2009 | jmarsden: Ok Ill have to play around with that. If I do set an fstab entry and then plug the drive in and it gets mounted automatically, and I update the package list. Later on if I forget to plug the drive in before I install a package, will it ask to plug the drive in by chance? Just wondering, or will it just throw an error? |
| 08:06.01 | jmarsden | You'll get an error, as far as I know. I'm not really sure why putting a repo or mirror of a repo on a USB stick is a great idea... but if you need to, try it. |
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| 08:07.07 | LinuxGuy2009 | jmarsden: Well its for my offline machine and managing the 8 DVD repo disks without swapping all of them a million times. |
| 08:07.17 | maxxer | casts, what wiki page were you referring to, about xen? |
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| 08:08.25 | jmarsden | LinuxGuy2009: Might be easier to copy the DVDs to the hard drive of the machine, but OK. |
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| 08:15.24 | casts | maxxer: my xen networking is solid, 'debian wiki xen', google |
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| 08:23.03 | sash_ | what is the name of the gnome3/gnome-shell-package in debian testing? |
| 08:24.17 | sash_ | i can only find gdm3 |
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| 08:24.55 | treebeen | ,versions gnome-shell |
| 08:24.57 | judd | Package gnome-shell on i386 -- experimental: 2.91.90-1 |
| 08:25.16 | sash_ | ah, only in experimental? |
| 08:25.48 | treebeen | looks like |
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| 08:33.54 | Uhu | Hello. Is there a way to use smth like pastebin from the console? (I want to paste my postconf -d output online and copy-paste does not work because the output is too long =/) |
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| 08:34.42 | treebeen | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.42 | treebeen | Uhu: apt-cache search paste bin |
| 08:35.57 | _jesse_ | Uhu: there is even `pastebinit` specifically |
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| 08:36.32 | Uhu | _jesse_: treebeen thank you, already found it! |
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| 08:37.06 | bman | moooo |
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| 08:37.42 | Uhu | I also have an issue with Postfix and Submission. I enabled Submission-Port, but I can send only through port 25 - submission ends with Client host rejected. http://pastebin.com/pnd8U04t - Short Logs and Extract from config. Anyone an idea? (I know I should ask #postfix but they are quite for hours) |
| 08:37.57 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:38.05 | bman | killall usb |
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| 08:38.58 | nvz | bman: um no.. more like modprobe -r or rmmod |
| 08:39.11 | bman | hah |
| 08:39.19 | bman | i was joking |
| 08:39.21 | bman | sorry for it |
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| 08:42.09 | nvz | bah.. just used the damn usb ports yesterday |
| 08:42.29 | nvz | I'm too tired for this nonsense... its bed time.. |
| 08:43.32 | nvz | the current problem being I got two laptops in a synergy setup here and I wanna backup this ipod but the only one thats currently not being retarded about usb has a HDD I believe is dying |
| 08:43.53 | nvz | so its kinda pointless to backup the damn ipod to a hdd that will likely corrupt or lose all the data |
| 08:44.58 | nvz | too lazy to do any of the half a dozen ways I can solve this problem.. |
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| 08:45.37 | optraz | hi, what is the tools that can check my ip address using command line? |
| 08:45.46 | nvz | ifconfig |
| 08:46.35 | optraz | nvz: well yea.. except that server is behind a router. and router pass all request to the server. |
| 08:46.42 | optraz | so ifconfig only reveal private ip. |
| 08:46.53 | _jesse_ | yep |
| 08:47.01 | nvz | optraz: then use google |
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| 08:47.12 | optraz | nvz: huh? |
| 08:47.21 | _jesse_ | optraz: you'd need to wget/curl one of those ip sites |
| 08:47.25 | nvz | optraz: ask google what your ip address is |
| 08:47.47 | optraz | aha |
| 08:47.47 | nvz | in case you didn't know google knows everything |
| 08:48.00 | bman | wheres baskin robbing |
| 08:48.02 | bman | robbins |
| 08:48.14 | MikeSee | the place with all the icrcream |
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| 08:48.24 | MikeSee | ice* |
| 08:48.49 | bman | ice ice baby |
| 08:48.58 | MikeSee | do dodo do dododo dooo.. |
| 08:49.03 | nvz | I know this cause chuck norris told me so |
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| 08:49.42 | nvz | and chuck norris is the only man who can email a roundhouse kick |
| 08:49.49 | nvz | so he would know |
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| 08:56.40 | project2501a | !#^!@*#^@ |
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| 08:57.42 | project2501a | i am going to file a bug against the dsh man page: it should include an ENVIROMENTAL VARIABLES section, declaring that HOSTNAME is used to set the name of the machine operated on. |
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| 09:10.11 | Infostar | hi from spain |
| 09:10.53 | ib11 | nvidia 330m hdmi output does not working |
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| 09:17.35 | Infostar | howto auto mount --bind /path/music /path/userx/music on ftpserver??? |
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| 09:28.55 | ib11 | Infostar, edit fstab |
| 09:29.05 | rioch | I'm creating a changelog file for a package. dch create defaults to UNRELEASED. When I use -r without a param, it defaults to unstable. My question is: what are common options for this? If I use -r stable it doesn't change. |
| 09:29.45 | Infostar | fstab control when any user connect to ftp???? |
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| 09:31.06 | rioch | Ahh I need the --distribution option :s |
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| 09:32.05 | Infostar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.10 | Infostar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:32.16 | Infostar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.19 | Infostar | etc |
| 09:32.49 | Infostar | i have 80 user |
| 09:33.21 | Infostar | and addnew and delete always |
| 09:33.28 | Sm0ke0ut | make a while loop? |
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| 09:34.04 | ib11 | sorry,i just trolled. u schould describe your problem,i think |
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| 09:35.25 | Infostar | how to create while loop??? |
| 09:35.39 | Infostar | where create while loop? |
| 09:36.28 | Infostar | excuse my inglish is very bad google translator is my friend |
| 09:36.36 | RichiH | while true; do echo hi; done |
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| 09:36.50 | RichiH | or better |
| 09:36.59 | RichiH | while true; do echo hi; sleep 1; done |
| 09:37.06 | RichiH | that way, you can cancel it more easily |
| 09:38.07 | ib11 | move /path/userx/music to /home/userx/music |
| 09:38.41 | Infostar | not run |
| 09:38.46 | Infostar | jail chroot |
| 09:39.05 | Infostar | I found these lines but where I put them? for home in /home/*; do mount --bind /externo $home/externo; done |
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| 09:40.34 | Infostar | i need execute this when user connect to ftp |
| 09:40.56 | dhanar_10 | how to set negative int value using gconftool-2? I tried this: gconftool-2 --type int --set /apps/brasero/config/priority/libburn-burn -1. It does not work. |
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| 09:44.14 | taleon | hi |
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| 09:53.16 | project2501a | ho-hum. is there not a way to tell dialog boxes "yes" by default, much like there is for apt-get -y ? if i am running on a pseudo tty apt-get fails :( |
| 09:53.30 | onoez_omg | sorry for not a debian-related question, but i wonder how may i `cut` horizontal tabulation symbol? |
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| 09:53.48 | project2501a | onoez_omg: hm? |
| 09:53.55 | project2501a | horizontal tabulation? |
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| 09:54.01 | onoez_omg | uhm yeah |
| 09:54.06 | project2501a | you mean a specific column in a single row? |
| 09:54.20 | project2501a | awk |
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| 09:54.38 | project2501a | awf -F<YOUR SEPERATION SYMBOL HERE> |
| 09:54.41 | project2501a | man awk |
| 09:54.49 | onoez_omg | oh |
| 09:54.50 | onoez_omg | whx |
| 09:54.53 | onoez_omg | forgot of awk |
| 09:54.55 | project2501a | whx? |
| 09:54.56 | project2501a | hehehe |
| 09:54.58 | project2501a | yeah it happens |
| 09:55.04 | onoez_omg | thanks, man ))) |
| 09:55.08 | project2501a | may i suggest the "linux power tools"? |
| 09:55.16 | project2501a | i take women, drugs and beer as payment. |
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| 09:56.46 | lxsameer | i'm looking for a easy to use and setup mailinglist software (except of mailman) do you know any ? |
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| 09:56.56 | project2501a | mailman |
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| 09:57.03 | project2501a | you really do not want to use majordomo |
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| 09:57.42 | project2501a | lxsameer: unless you want to create "distribution lists" by keeping copies of /etc/aliases |
| 09:58.11 | Bartzy | How can I execute system calls ? |
| 09:58.14 | Bartzy | man gethostbyname |
| 09:58.22 | Bartzy | Can I execute gethostbyname from a command ? |
| 09:58.27 | Bartzy | Without compiling my own code ? |
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| 09:58.42 | lxsameer | project2501a: thanks man |
| 09:59.12 | project2501a | Bartzy: hostname does that for you |
| 09:59.29 | project2501a | i think #debian should make "unix power tools" a mandatory reading |
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| 09:59.32 | mwnn | hi, is debian-6.0.0-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso sufficient for me to have working Linux desktop enviroment. Should i download the rest of the images as well? |
| 09:59.50 | project2501a | mwnn: depends on what you mean "sufficient" |
| 09:59.54 | project2501a | do you need a compiler? |
| 09:59.58 | project2501a | do you need development files? |
| 10:00.08 | project2501a | scientific software? java? |
| 10:00.33 | mwnn | no, those i can install it using apt-get. I just need to be able to get a DE. |
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| 10:00.39 | project2501a | mwnn: it will definately install debian 6.0 with KDE support. |
| 10:00.45 | mwnn | project2501a: Thanks! |
| 10:00.57 | project2501a | mwnn: but you can do the same thing with the netinstall cd |
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| 10:01.06 | project2501a | much less bandwidth consumed |
| 10:01.33 | mwnn | project2501a: But then i have to apt-get KDE packages for all of my systems |
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| 10:01.49 | project2501a | how many systems do you have? |
| 10:01.50 | casts | vim+screen+mplayer is a DE |
| 10:01.57 | mwnn | project2501a: 3 |
| 10:02.06 | project2501a | mwnn: make a local repo |
| 10:02.25 | project2501a | netboot/netinstall from there |
| 10:02.35 | project2501a | casts: that's how Real Programmers[tm] do it :D |
| 10:03.12 | project2501a | seriously, there should be a mandatory reading list. |
| 10:03.23 | casts | i try to install as little as possible when using the installer, so i can get into my OS and crank up irssi asap |
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| 10:03.49 | project2501a | "What is the title of the page 89 of the octopus book?" |
| 10:03.56 | casts | then it makes watching gcc, X, et al, come down the pipe, much less boring as you can start configuring things |
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| 10:04.05 | ib11 | @project those lamers(tm) |
| 10:04.27 | project2501a | casts: i am listening to dead can dance as i am dist-upgrading 400 hosts using dsh |
| 10:04.33 | project2501a | ib11: those lamers? |
| 10:04.38 | Arrowmaster | mwnn: if you are going to have internet access at install time, just use the netinstall cd instead |
| 10:04.49 | casts | oh, and what do the 400 hosts do? |
| 10:05.02 | mwnn | Arrowmaster: ok |
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| 10:05.11 | project2501a | casts: allign DNA sequences. |
| 10:05.17 | casts | i wish i had 400 hosts running debian :(. 400 running RHEL seems feasible...not unattractive |
| 10:05.18 | project2501a | over platform lsf |
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| 10:05.29 | casts | opteron cluster? |
| 10:05.33 | project2501a | fuck no |
| 10:05.34 | project2501a | xeon |
| 10:05.45 | project2501a | sgi UV all the way baby! |
| 10:05.50 | casts | hey nothing wrong with opterons! |
| 10:06.02 | Arrowmaster | the normal cds are getting a little crunched for space |
| 10:06.05 | project2501a | it's all about the pentiums, baby |
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| 10:06.29 | project2501a | waves dutchfish |
| 10:06.37 | casts | people still use cds? :( |
| 10:06.50 | project2501a | i use hard drives these days |
| 10:06.52 | dutchfish | waves back |
| 10:06.57 | rigved | Arrowmaster: that's why i downloaded the DVDs for squeeze this time around |
| 10:06.59 | casts | it is nice the optical disk drives are always backwards compatible [cd/dvd/br] |
| 10:07.02 | project2501a | ship 10TB of data between saudi arabia and the US |
| 10:07.17 | project2501a | come on peoples |
| 10:07.23 | project2501a | i will answer more questions |
| 10:07.27 | project2501a | bring it |
| 10:07.31 | casts | what was the data |
| 10:07.41 | project2501a | DNA sequences |
| 10:07.56 | casts | why are you generating them inSA instead of US |
| 10:08.15 | project2501a | because that is where we work and we sample data, inshallah |
| 10:08.24 | casts | ah. |
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| 10:08.31 | casts | was it an mdadm array |
| 10:08.32 | project2501a | because the saudi king pays my bills ;D |
| 10:09.00 | project2501a | casts, yeah. then shoved in samsung suitcases, surrounded by molded plastic |
| 10:09.12 | xingu | project2501a: you got your x5690's yet? :) |
| 10:09.16 | casts | RAID6 arrays? |
| 10:09.25 | project2501a | xingu: no :( |
| 10:09.31 | Slie | "You Look like a Visible Fart" |
| 10:09.51 | project2501a | casts: no, grub2 does not support booting from raid 6 |
| 10:10.08 | project2501a | neither does it support that large of a volume... :( |
| 10:10.25 | casts | was thinking you'd have the OS somewhere else and just ship the dataset |
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| 10:11.10 | project2501a | i'm shipping a complete solution |
| 10:11.18 | project2501a | "here you go, do your secondary analysis here" |
| 10:11.44 | project2501a | as soon as i get my permanent hardware, i will not need to ship anything |
| 10:11.54 | project2501a | anyway, this is a convo for #debian-offtopic |
| 10:12.06 | casts | seems debian related |
| 10:12.08 | project2501a | moar debian questions, please. |
| 10:12.24 | casts | we don't just have to fix peoples broken flash installs you know! |
| 10:12.42 | project2501a | casts: debian related would be "fastest bioinformatics SMP computer runs debian. SGI supports debian commercially" |
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| 10:12.55 | project2501a | THAT would be news. |
| 10:13.04 | project2501a | i just need to get up 10k cores. |
| 10:13.46 | casts | debian related is sufficient, doesn't have to be news worthy ;P |
| 10:13.47 | project2501a | someone give me 15M USD |
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| 10:14.12 | xingu | opens the petty cash tin |
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| 10:15.29 | project2501a | is there a way to specify a timezone on the command line when doing a dpkg-reconfigure tzdata ? |
| 10:15.54 | project2501a | like dpkg-reconfigure tzdata 'Europe/Athens' ? |
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| 10:17.18 | dutchfish | project2501a: why not work in UTC all the way? |
| 10:17.20 | Arrowmaster | try setting it with debconf first |
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| 10:17.44 | Bartzy | project2501a: But hostname is for my own machine only, not other machines. |
| 10:17.54 | Bartzy | and again, I want to execute a system call. |
| 10:17.59 | Bartzy | Not an application. |
| 10:19.07 | Zao | Having DNS resolution in the kernel sounds a bit overkill. |
| 10:20.46 | xingu | Bartzy: perl, syscall() |
| 10:20.53 | Bartzy | thanks. |
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| 10:21.11 | ib11 | <project2501a> "ship 10TB of data between saudi arabia and the US" for 15M USD i'll do it. for5 M USD too :) |
| 10:21.17 | Slie | Zao, what does in the kernel mean? |
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| 10:22.02 | Bartzy | How can I tell where a bash function resides ? In which file ? |
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| 10:23.02 | RCP | I have tried every way to remove mysql-server-5.0 from my box http://pastebin.com/v7ePw0xT I do I remove it |
| 10:23.13 | RCP | every time I try it spits that ^ |
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| 10:23.30 | xingu | zao: blame network filesystem drivers ;) |
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| 10:24.53 | casts | when your ssh connection dies...with openssh as the client, is there a way to kill/exit it from that same terminal? it ignores C-z / C-c, i have to kill -10 it from another terminal |
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| 10:25.34 | petemc | casts: try hitting enter ~ |
| 10:25.43 | xingu | casts: try ~. |
| 10:25.48 | xingu | (enter prefix) |
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| 10:27.18 | xingu | casts: the other thing that helps is setting aggressive ServerAliveCountMax/ ServerAliveInterval |
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| 10:27.28 | casts | cheers :) |
| 10:27.41 | casts | sets things aggressively |
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| 10:38.44 | Bushmills | casts: run it through openvpn - that way ssh resumes once the connection comes up again, even if ip address has changed (by ssh being tunneled) |
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| 10:38.53 | Bushmills | anytun should do too |
| 10:39.52 | casts | thats...an option, but requires significant rejigging of networking |
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| 10:43.32 | Bushmills | not really |
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| 10:44.01 | Bushmills | that just adds an interface, in its own subnet. |
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| 10:44.36 | Bushmills | connect to address of that interface to make use of the tunnel. other addresses aren't affected |
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| 10:47.28 | casts | aha |
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| 10:47.38 | casts | but then i have to rejig firewall rules on both sides |
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| 10:49.43 | Bushmills | don't you ACCEPT traffic to ssh port already? |
| 10:49.47 | dynamite | Hey all, i just installed a machine with mdraid, debian squeeze bootstrap installation and grub2 - after rebooting, it starts into the grub2 commandline. were did i go wrong? |
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| 10:52.09 | casts | Bushmills: sure. but everything to/from the new virtual interface, would be dropped |
| 10:52.51 | Bushmills | i don't see why it would, unless you ACCEPT ssh traffic from specific interfaces or source addresses only |
| 10:53.42 | Fudge | hi, has anyone setup pulseaudio system wide successfully on squeeze. having lots of trouble |
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| 10:54.00 | Fudge | can show anyone the script im following also :d |
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| 10:54.23 | Uhu | I tried to install IPSec server but I fail to log in. Where can I see vpn log on client-side? |
| 10:58.08 | Uhu | Ok I found it. |
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| 11:00.34 | Uhu | How can I add IPSec support to the kernel? |
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| 11:05.29 | stc | ```````````````````` |
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| 11:06.00 | Sia- | hi |
| 11:06.15 | Mortvert | Guys, could any of you help me with compiling something? |
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| 11:06.57 | Sia- | on my imac word everything fine, but the shutdown hang on! reboot ..etc work |
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| 11:07.23 | Sia- | imac is the 7,1 with intel dual core |
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| 11:07.49 | eshat | No Xfce 4.8. for unstable ? |
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| 11:08.40 | ib11 | Sia- what says the logs? |
| 11:09.15 | Sia- | /var/log/message |
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| 11:11.01 | Sia- | ib11, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=myXxCzE7 |
| 11:12.23 | onoez_omg | hell, i'm in doubt with awk, feeling myself like a child ))) i need to split automatically downloaded nmap-services db from daily nmap build in order to correct some options in portsentry config |
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| 11:13.10 | Erbureth | Sia-: /var/log/messages.1 |
| 11:13.13 | onoez_omg | where can i find lots of examples on using awk in different ways? i spend too much time in google ) |
| 11:13.40 | Sia- | Erbureth, look the pastebin above |
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| 11:22.07 | ib11 | Sia- , by Mar 6 12:02:50 was the hang? |
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| 11:24.18 | _0x47 | hi, i'm trying to modify a debian source package with quilt. There is already a patch available (debian/patches/install.patch). But I have a new upstream release and want to re-create the patch newly. So I did 'quilt pop' and it removed the data. Then I did 'quilt new install.patch' and 'quilt add debian/control'. Changed a few lines and 'quilt update'. I even did a 'quilt push' but somehow the install.patch file still |
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| 11:29.05 | Sia- | ib11, yes |
| 11:29.12 | Sia- | by 11: 44 |
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| 11:30.22 | Sia- | ok brb restart |
| 11:31.16 | ib11 | Sia- 11:44 is not in your log |
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| 11:34.44 | lgof | i m trying to crack MY OWN facebook account with dsiff but cannot .... is there any problem with dsniff??? |
| 11:34.46 | WormFood | onoez_omg, read the awk info pages....that is how I learned to program in ask (it really isn't that hard) |
| 11:35.00 | WormFood | lgof, wrong channel |
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| 11:35.45 | kantor | hello |
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| 11:36.20 | _0x47 | anyone? |
| 11:36.41 | kantor | it is possible to make all the RAM in the system to be recognized by linux as lowmem ? |
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| 11:39.13 | WormFood | kantor, what is "lowmem" to you? |
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| 11:39.28 | dmajnem2 | hi |
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| 11:40.05 | dmajnem2 | I want to remove a package using "apt-get" but "apt-get" insists on install more packages to compensate for the sake of other packages. how do I tell it to remove more? |
| 11:40.19 | dmajnem2 | specifically, libx11-6 |
| 11:40.24 | ta2 | Hi, I've created a software RAID array. Could someone point me to a tutorial about how to set up an encrypted partition with no wasted space for the superuser? |
| 11:41.04 | _0x47 | Anyone please? |
| 11:41.04 | casts | ta2: cryptsetup luksFormat it, put an entry in /etc/crypttab, mkfs it, put entry into /etc/fstab, you are done |
| 11:41.31 | kantor | WormFood, I mean the software lowmem, the lowmem and highmem that is managed by linux . . . |
| 11:41.52 | WormFood | well for starters _0x47, I don't know what irc client you're using, but it is shit....get something that won't cut off your question. |
| 11:42.16 | _0x47 | WormFood: lol, thanks. It's Pidgin |
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| 11:42.28 | _0x47 | let me resend in parts |
| 11:42.35 | ta2 | casts: thanks for the info, I will give it a go |
| 11:42.39 | WormFood | kantor, "lowmem" and "highmem" can mean different things to different people....which is why I asked what it means to you |
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| 11:42.46 | _0x47 | I'm trying to modify a debian source package with quilt. There is already a patch available (debian/patches/install.patch). But I have a new upstream release and want to re-create the patch newly. |
| 11:42.52 | _0x47 | So I did 'quilt pop' and it removed the data. Then I did 'quilt new install.patch' and 'quilt add debian/control'. Changed a few lines and 'quilt update'. |
| 11:42.57 | _0x47 | I even did a 'quilt push' but somehow the install.patch file still shows me the old data. No errors tho... What did I do wrong? |
| 11:43.17 | kantor | WormFood, it is ok |
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| 11:44.46 | WormFood | kantor, usually the "lowmem"/"highmem" bit in Linux is for 32-bit version of Linux (as my understanding), and it is a kernel config option....not sure if you can change it dynamically or not. |
| 11:45.05 | WormFood | kantor, you may need to compile a new kernel |
| 11:45.27 | WormFood | I'm not sure, you'd have to find out about the setting, and see where you can change it |
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| 11:47.03 | kantor | WormFood, that is not a problem, actually I recompiled it yesterday a few times (to enable /dev/mem, kmem . . . because these things are not enabled by default in the debian kernel) |
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| 11:47.39 | lexoplex | I have Lenny running on a VM. When I try '/etc/init.d/syslog-ng start' I get this error: "Error opening file for reading; filename='/proc/kmsg', error='Operation not permitted (1)' |
| 11:47.44 | lexoplex | Error initializing source driver; source='s_all'" |
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| 11:48.10 | WormFood | yeah, I don't particularly care for the debian kernels either....mainly because the shit locks up my laptop when booting more often than not....but with a kernel I compiled myself, everything works great. |
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| 11:48.35 | WormFood | I should file a bug report about that...along with a few other things they keep fuckin' up |
| 11:48.54 | lexoplex | No idea what to make of this - /proc/kmsg has permissions: -r-------- (root:root), any pointers? |
| 11:49.44 | WormFood | lexoplex, only root can read it |
| 11:50.18 | WormFood | mine is the same way...I'd say it is normal ;) |
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| 11:50.59 | razieliyo | hi |
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| 11:51.25 | razieliyo | I'm using squeeze, and when I try to install Enemy Territory, I get a library error |
| 11:51.40 | razieliyo | it says I need libgtk 1.2 but it isn't on the repositories |
| 11:51.44 | ta2 | when I run cfdisk I get this: "FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 1: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder" |
| 11:51.51 | razieliyo | the only one that is in the repositories is libgtk 2.0 |
| 11:51.52 | lexoplex | WormFood: Yeah, but the error message seems to say it has the wrong permissions... does syslog-ng run under a different user? |
| 11:52.00 | razieliyo | is there any way to install libgtk 1.2 in squeeze? |
| 11:52.18 | onoez_omg | WormFood, yep, already did what i was thinking of, thx to holy man awk =) Btw i have a general question on how to exclude first 22 lines of source file i work with ._. such a nub question |
| 11:52.25 | vtts | lexoplex, are you running the command as root? |
| 11:52.32 | lexoplex | vtts: yes |
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| 11:53.11 | vtts | then it should work |
| 11:53.28 | WormFood | vtts, unless the software is suid, to a different user |
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| 11:53.51 | vtts | well, a lot of things can be messed up |
| 11:54.24 | _0x47 | so, I guess I'm doomed... :( |
| 11:54.25 | WormFood | onoez_omg, there is a variable for the line it is processing...just do an if ($line>22) print $0 or whatever (it isn't $line, but I forget the right variable) |
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| 11:54.39 | fullmetallica | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.52 | onoez_omg | WormFood, oh, thanks |
| 11:55.11 | WormFood | _0x47, I'm not even sure what software you're working with....I'd suggest you try back later, like in a few hours....there is a lot of really smart people here....you're in the right place, but at the wrong time ;) |
| 11:55.12 | razieliyo | lol |
| 11:55.32 | lexoplex | Ugh, /proc/kmsg is size zero... doesn't look right, does it? |
| 11:55.50 | vtts | lexoplex, it's a block device |
| 11:55.52 | lexoplex | (I'm unfamiliar with /proc in general) |
| 11:55.53 | _0x47 | k thanks, WormFood |
| 11:55.58 | casts | fullmetallica: point 1 is BS |
| 11:56.07 | WormFood | onoez_omg, for what you're trying to do, I wouldn't even use awk....I'd just do it with wc -l and tail and some bash magic ;) |
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| 11:56.20 | lexoplex | vtts: ok |
| 11:56.28 | WormFood | but of course, that is me....there is no right or wrong way to do that |
| 11:57.18 | fullmetallica | casts, the backwards compatibility comment? |
| 11:57.22 | vtts | lexoplex, sorry, not a block device, but /proc works in such way |
| 11:57.34 | casts | fullmetallica: 5 is also BS, |
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| 11:58.00 | razieliyo | casts, what is BS? |
| 11:58.00 | vtts | lexoplex, did you change any configuration from the default? |
| 11:58.05 | casts | razieliyo: bullshit |
| 11:58.08 | vtts | lexoplex, are you using any security extentions |
| 11:58.12 | razieliyo | nice |
| 11:58.20 | fullmetallica | i thought so too, bash aint that complex, not what the average user needs anyway |
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| 11:58.37 | onoez_omg | WormFood, yep, i guess that is right way to do it with bash, it would be more uhm... at least easily to understand to someone who will check it out. |
| 11:59.04 | onoez_omg | my english is just like my awk loool |
| 11:59.07 | WormFood | onoez_omg, what you want to do is trivial...just find the variable with the current line |
| 11:59.39 | WormFood | I'm very rusty with awk, because it has been too long since I've done anything serious with it |
| 11:59.46 | casts | fullmetallica: i suggest not replying and conversing with people who have more of a clue, for a start linux is only a kernel, though in opposition of line 5, it runs on far more hardware than windows |
| 11:59.47 | fullmetallica | with point one, he sent a video of someone upgrading from the very first windows, upgrading through them all in order |
| 11:59.49 | vtts | fullmetallica, first of all it's a flamewar and it offtopic here, but anyone who has written it should get its math right 20 mean MS should still support win95 |
| 11:59.58 | onoez_omg | well, usually i do this with some cut, sort, uniq, tr, but in this case i'm in doubt |
| 12:00.14 | casts | fullmetallica: we could do that with debian. |
| 12:00.46 | lexoplex | vtts: Haven't changed any configs (AFAIR); the only package with 'selinux' I have installed is 'libselinux1'. |
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| 12:02.33 | vtts | lexoplex, try starting it in the debug mode |
| 12:03.55 | vtts | btw, have you changed the kernel in any way? or maybe upgraded it? |
| 12:04.08 | fullmetallica | not really going to be a flamewar here is it |
| 12:06.06 | razieliyo | where is it |
| 12:06.09 | razieliyo | I wanna read |
| 12:06.29 | WormFood | actually, microsoft's backwards "compatibility" is complete and utter shit |
| 12:06.50 | lexoplex | vtts: uname -a is "Linux m60s19 2.6.18 #1 SMP Sun Feb 21 00:02:22 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux" |
| 12:06.55 | vtts | lexoplex, also you could try if "head /proc/kmsg" works for root |
| 12:07.02 | WormFood | if their backwards compatibility was so great, then why would they provide you a virtual windows xp machine, for windows 7? |
| 12:07.11 | lexoplex | vtts: /usr/sbin/syslog-ng -d gives the same error (no other output) |
| 12:07.13 | razieliyo | microsoft will allways have a very good point |
| 12:07.15 | nevyn | WormFood: meh multiarch and parallel library installs at least sorta work. |
| 12:07.20 | razieliyo | and it's games |
| 12:07.46 | razieliyo | ok, there are good games in linux, but you can't play fear2 or crysis from native |
| 12:07.52 | razieliyo | that's really BS |
| 12:07.55 | lexoplex | vtts: The "head" also says "operation not permitted"... |
| 12:08.01 | WormFood | and another thing, microsoft does not give one shit about security....this has been proven over and over and over again....the ONLY way microsoft responds to security issues, is if they are made publick |
| 12:08.05 | casts | fullmetallica: not sure if you remember, but microsoft isn't even compatible between service packs, back in the XP days they removed features and broke nmap |
| 12:08.33 | vtts | lexoplex, so something is "protecting" it, check for security extentions |
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| 12:08.38 | WormFood | and with SP1 on Vista, they made file copy slower, just to make the estimated time more accurate....BRILLIANT! |
| 12:08.49 | vtts | lexoplex, not only selinux |
| 12:08.57 | lexoplex | vtts: OK, I'll search some more, thanks |
| 12:09.15 | WormFood | I quit using windows back in 1999....best decision I ever made |
| 12:09.16 | thinksteve | fullmetallica: Current versions of said operating system won't run on older machines |
| 12:09.44 | jelly-home | WormFood: try quitting talking about it in unrelated channels, as well! |
| 12:09.54 | vtts | :) |
| 12:09.54 | fullmetallica | will debian? |
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| 12:11.22 | MrFrood | fullmetallica: I think and 48mb of ram are the minimum Debian specs |
| 12:11.36 | MrFrood | *a 486 |
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| 12:12.14 | fullmetallica | either way there are plenty of linux OS' build for older pc's |
| 12:12.17 | jelly-home | 48MB is quite unusable for an installation but might be enough to use the system |
| 12:12.34 | FriarLaurence | hi, i would like to have something like a default debian installation to avoid several errors that occur in my actual version. ¿is it somehow possible to reset the /etc directory to an /etc of a fresh install? |
| 12:12.56 | MrFrood | jelly-home: 48mb is what the installer reqires |
| 12:13.00 | casts | if someone does want to argue 'linux' vs windows, aren't there linux instances running in 4-8MB of ram :) |
| 12:13.40 | Zao | s/running/constantly OOMing/ |
| 12:13.46 | WormFood | casts, but then you're comparing apples and oranges..... |
| 12:13.54 | petemc | FriarLaurence: /etc varies according to what you have installed, better to purge and reinstall the problem apps |
| 12:14.06 | jelly-home | MrFrood: and it's going to use swap to install all the stuff. |
| 12:14.10 | FriarLaurence | casts: i usually compare windows kernel with gnu. thats why i have chosen a gnu-system for my computer |
| 12:14.35 | casts | WormFood: sure....but the poster in questions wanted to compare apples to oranges |
| 12:14.46 | WormFood | I've run Linux on some very small amounts of RAM...like 4-8 meg....but don't expect to do much with it |
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| 12:15.05 | MrFrood | jelly-home: I'm just quoting the stated minimum requirements for the installer |
| 12:15.14 | WormFood | casts, take it to #debian-offtopic, or they'll start silencing you here ;) |
| 12:15.40 | FriarLaurence | petemc: ok thank you. i actually dont know which apps cause problems. there is something causing my monitor to flicker each 20 seconds. i downgraded every x11-package, nothing changed. might a purge and reinstall solve the problem or is downgrading also a good idea? |
| 12:16.08 | jelly-home | fullmetallica: try ##linux or #debian-offtopic for help with your non-Debian question |
| 12:16.27 | fullmetallica | ok |
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| 12:17.31 | jelly-home | FriarLaurence: which debian release are you using? Are you using the video-intel X driver? |
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| 12:18.13 | FriarLaurence | jelly-home: no i am using radeon. the xserver-xorg-video* is now stable. before it was experimental and there has been no change. the rest of this system is testing |
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| 12:18.51 | fullmetallica | what do you think of my reply, not posted yet http://pastebin.com/QhAK4dhk |
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| 12:22.57 | WormFood | fullmetallica, take it to #debian-offtopic, or you'll find yourself unable to talk here (I don't have that power to do that, but I know it will happen if you keep it up) ;) |
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| 12:24.32 | fullmetallica | ok, i wil. say no more |
| 12:24.34 | WormFood | fullmetallica, if you want any more comments from me on that topic, it will be in #debian-offtopic (but since you're not there....) |
| 12:24.55 | brutus | Has anybody used linux containers? Why do I get this? $ lxc-console -n mycontainer "lxc-console: failed to connect to the tty service" |
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| 12:28.27 | CngZ | Hello, I search a fingerprint recognition software, do you know another one than fprint ? |
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| 12:33.32 | lexoplex | vtts: I think my problem is due to this being a VServer... I had no idea this is something more specific than just "Lenny on a VM". |
| 12:34.18 | lexoplex | So sorry for the confusion. I just commented out a few lines in /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf. |
| 12:34.28 | vtts | oh yes, vserver locks a lot of things down for guest |
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| 12:51.45 | _Brandon_ | hi, since a couple of weeks I have a weird problem with gtk apps, some widgets background color don't have a gradient, for example the pressed button here http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/quick3.png with firefox is even worse it's all white, I'm using unstable/experimental |
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| 12:52.05 | Big_Aziz | hi peoples |
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| 12:53.57 | action09 | hi all |
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| 12:57.03 | project2501a | has anybody seen a fault like this: jensen_shannon.cpp:80: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault ? |
| 12:57.12 | project2501a | segfault on the compiler?! |
| 12:57.57 | WormFood | project2501a, check your ram |
| 12:58.18 | Mortvert | how does one check the uuid of his pen-drive? |
| 12:58.59 | project2501a | WormFood: good luck with that, i got a ram-only cluster :( |
| 12:59.20 | _Brandon_ | Mortvert: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
| 12:59.27 | Mortvert | ty |
| 13:00.02 | project2501a | WormFood: any other reasons for that segfault? |
| 13:00.02 | WormFood | project2501a, sounds like a clusterfuck to me ;) |
| 13:00.19 | WormFood | I've found that most of the time compiler segfaults are due to hardware issues. |
| 13:00.30 | project2501a | WormFood: it is :( got USD15M to lend me? :( |
| 13:00.52 | WormFood | I only have one USD left |
| 13:01.02 | cga | hi , can someone tell me what value has "umask" by default in /etc/profile ? please |
| 13:01.07 | project2501a | yeah, i got 1k SAR only myself |
| 13:01.17 | WormFood | and I'm saving it, because it is literally my last dollar (not counting my hong kong dollars or my african dollars) |
| 13:01.59 | cga | brb |
| 13:03.33 | project2501a | lol |
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| 13:03.42 | project2501a | it's "find the heisenbug" tonight |
| 13:04.07 | project2501a | new error: |
| 13:04.17 | project2501a | ./SeqAn-1.1/seqan/sequence/string_base.h:207: error: no matching function for call to ‘_setLength(seqan::String<char, seqan::CStyle>&, int)’ |
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| 13:06.36 | project2501a | aaaand it compiled on the third try |
| 13:06.43 | project2501a | yes, hardware seems to be fucked up. |
| 13:07.12 | philipp | since the last update (testing) users are not allowed anymore to shutdown the system, how can I fix this? |
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| 13:07.51 | philipp | is it now controlled by policykit? |
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| 13:12.01 | cga | hi , can someone tell me what value has "umask" by default in /etc/profile ? please |
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| 13:15.32 | vtts | cga, 022 |
| 13:16.34 | cga | hi vtts, thanks =) |
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| 13:23.18 | Uhu | Can somebody help me choose the right e-mail filter hardware? Is a dualcore AMD with 2 GB enough to run Spamassasin and Clamav for 77.000 messages (1.000 Real) / day |
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| 13:24.25 | robokop | Uhu: yes should be enough |
| 13:27.46 | xk | 77 thousand or 77 ? :) |
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| 13:28.41 | bint | The following packages have been kept back: bind9 bind9-host bind9utils dnsutils libbind9-50 libdns55 libisccc50 libisccfg50 liblwres50 |
| 13:28.42 | bint | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded. |
| 13:28.50 | bint | why doesn't it upgrade those packages? |
| 13:28.56 | xk | apt-get install bind9 |
| 13:29.03 | bint | should i? |
| 13:29.09 | xk | dunno. |
| 13:29.18 | bint | its not e security risk if i wont |
| 13:29.29 | xk | well, there was some vulnerability with it in the last month |
| 13:29.30 | vtts | bint, try dist-upgrade |
| 13:29.32 | xk | dnssec related |
| 13:29.53 | bint | a dist-upgrade wouldn't upgrade to squeeze? |
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| 13:30.08 | xk | or aptitude install bind9 |
| 13:30.39 | vtts | it won't unless you have specified squeeze in your sources.list |
| 13:30.45 | bint | ah aright |
| 13:30.48 | xk | or stable. |
| 13:30.53 | vtts | tru |
| 13:31.09 | bint | its not 100% stable :( |
| 13:31.10 | vtts | anyway, it will ask |
| 13:31.18 | bint | but got only stable sources :)= |
| 13:31.44 | bint | well aright thanks then ! |
| 13:32.09 | vtts | if you see a lot of packages to be upgraded, then it might be moving to squeeze |
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| 13:33.36 | vtts | anyway, you probably should read the release notes and properly upgrade to squeeze |
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| 13:50.34 | nickrw | bint: it doesn't want to install those without manually installing bind9 or doing dist-upgrade because it would involve removing packages |
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| 13:52.52 | Tau\off | hi. |
| 13:53.02 | Tau\off | i'm trying to transfer a file from my machine to shellmix.com. |
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| 13:53.08 | Tau\off | i'm using scp. |
| 13:53.21 | Tau\off | however, it fails at every attempt which i do. |
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| 13:55.32 | Tau | hi. |
| 13:58.07 | Tau | is there some one on ? |
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| 13:58.52 | MrFrood | yes |
| 13:59.04 | Tau | how can i use scp to transfer a file from a server to another ? |
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| 13:59.13 | MrFrood | Just checking something |
| 13:59.20 | Tau | Mr_Queue, k |
| 14:00.11 | lord_rob | scp file user@host:<targertdir> |
| 14:00.15 | petemc | Tau: scp file user@host:file |
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| 14:00.55 | Tau | petemc, in that case, if i'm on A then i would be getting the file from B, right ? |
| 14:00.56 | MrFrood | try gftp - I use it for transfering files to SDF |
| 14:01.12 | Tau | or i would just be disponibilizing the file from B for a server A ? |
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| 14:01.22 | MrFrood | it supports secure file transfers |
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| 14:01.29 | petemc | you're on A, you make file go from A to B |
| 14:01.32 | Tau | McMAGIC--, i would use however the server doesn't have that program. |
| 14:01.43 | Tau | pepe_arg, hmm i will try. |
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| 14:03.03 | Tau | oh, shit :( |
| 14:03.15 | Tau | it says permission denied. |
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| 14:04.08 | Tau | weird. |
| 14:04.23 | Tau | oh. |
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| 14:06.20 | Tau | fine. |
| 14:06.26 | Tau | petemc, and lord_rob thank you. |
| 14:06.28 | Tau | i got it. |
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| 14:11.02 | zrin | I've copied a server from a single disk with lvm to lvm on raid10, updated fstab, mdadm.conf, grub; the boot process stops and hangs after mounting. I can boot with "rw init=/bin/bash", I can boot with "rw init=/sbin/init", but not with the standard "ro" ... what could cause such behavior? |
| 14:11.27 | xk | hmm |
| 14:13.16 | ndnihil | it has been a while since I've been annoyed with debian, but no gimv, xorg not handling multiple displays properly for full screen video games, and now xmms being all fucked up and replaced by some stupid client/server pice of crap |
| 14:13.40 | ndnihil | just wanted to play some fucking music while I made breakfast |
| 14:14.00 | ndnihil | but instead I've been sitting here for 15 minutes dealing with this nyxmmscli crap |
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| 14:14.10 | xk | lol |
| 14:14.20 | xk | xmms2 is unexplainable :) |
| 14:14.37 | xk | who cares if xmms was written in a dodgey way... it worked wonderfully for the user. |
| 14:14.42 | xk | whereas xmms2 is designed for the programmer. |
| 14:14.53 | xk | (the same thing happened with afterstep2) |
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| 14:15.06 | xk | afterstep2 is like _heaps_ slower than afterstep1, even though it is "better written" |
| 14:15.38 | ndnihil | recommendations on a reasonable mp3/flac/ogg player? |
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| 14:16.01 | Holborn | aqualung |
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| 14:16.08 | Uhu | How do I add ipset to kernel on debian 6.0? |
| 14:16.16 | hemu | banshee? :) |
| 14:16.27 | ndnihil | no music player needs a client/server model implemented |
| 14:16.29 | ndnihil | that's just stupid |
| 14:17.36 | xk | whats itunes and airplay? :) |
| 14:18.18 | ndnihil | I dont want my music player to think it knows jack shit about how I want my media organized either |
| 14:18.27 | xk | lol |
| 14:18.33 | ndnihil | I'm quite capable of organizing things how I want them |
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| 14:19.05 | MrFrood | ndnihil: moc has good sound quality if you don't mind the cli interface |
| 14:19.16 | hemu | vlc of course |
| 14:19.19 | ndnihil | I embrace CLI |
| 14:19.25 | ndnihil | I *heart* it even |
| 14:19.27 | hemu | if you dont want anything else than basics |
| 14:20.57 | ndnihil | aqualung has a "music store"? |
| 14:21.11 | ndnihil | WTF IS THIS WINDOWS BULLSHIT DOING ON MY LEENOOKZ |
| 14:21.49 | Holborn | ndnihil: yes |
| 14:22.10 | ndnihil | makes me want to switch to *BSD |
| 14:22.34 | xk | there's kfreebsd :o |
| 14:22.41 | ndnihil | and that's just lovely, it keeps playing, after you exit the application |
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| 14:23.10 | ndnihil | pours some of his 40oz on the ground for the old school linux |
| 14:23.12 | deuterium | hm..is there no package for phpmysql in debian 6.0/squeeze? |
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| 14:23.26 | deuterium | i.e. no package that appears in aptitude |
| 14:23.57 | xk | deuterium: i've installed it. |
| 14:24.21 | deuterium | xk: manually? |
| 14:24.27 | xk | no. |
| 14:24.29 | deuterium | doesn't appear in my aptitude listing |
| 14:24.43 | deuterium | it's not non-free, right? |
| 14:24.54 | deuterium | contrib maybe.. hm |
| 14:25.03 | xk | hmm |
| 14:25.28 | ndnihil | there |
| 14:25.32 | ndnihil | audacious seems reasonable |
| 14:25.46 | deuterium | xk: found it :) |
| 14:25.53 | thinksteve | ndnihil: If you liked xmms, audacious should be good enough. |
| 14:26.13 | ndnihil | they even look quite similar |
| 14:26.21 | deuterium | xk: i was searching for phpmysql instead of phpmyadmin (silly me) |
| 14:26.25 | xk | heh |
| 14:26.35 | ndnihil | adds an alias |
| 14:26.36 | deuterium | :D |
| 14:27.26 | MrFrood | there is also herrie - music players don't get much simpler |
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| 14:31.09 | deuterium | xk: when installing phpmyadmin i get prompted: "Please provide the password for the administrative account with which this package should create its MySQL database and user" |
| 14:31.38 | deuterium | xk: it's a fresh install of squeeze.. i don't know the mysql admin pwd. or should i set it here? |
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| 14:32.29 | xk | it says "should create" |
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| 14:32.35 | xk | which means you specify the password. |
| 14:32.59 | thinksteve | afaik, rootpwd for mysql is set with dkpg-configure when you install mysql the first time. |
| 14:33.34 | xk | although to configure phpmyadmin for a remote mysql server is not so straight forward. |
| 14:33.58 | deuterium | thinksteve: hm.. i wasn't asked to set one.. i guess i should increase my verbosity level in debconf ;) |
| 14:34.03 | xk | unless I was blind to see that option. |
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| 14:35.18 | deuterium | xk, thinksteve: will run dpkg-reconfigure for mysql if entering an arbitrary pwd here doesn't work for phpmyadmin |
| 14:36.06 | deuterium | it's really asking for the mysql pwd that seems to have been automatically created just before.. odd |
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| 14:37.15 | wildc4rd | afternoon all |
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| 14:37.51 | deuterium | can't run dpkg-reconfigure mysql as aptitude has a lock now.. wondering, how resolving that should work for newbies ;) i'll just abort aptitude, i think. |
| 14:38.45 | deuterium | or does debconf set a default pwd for mysql when installing it the first time? sth like "password"? |
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| 14:41.10 | deuterium | xk, thinksteve: ah lol.. debian doesn't set a mysql pwd at all when installing it from scratch! root can simply connect from localhost w/o any pwd.. funny :) |
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| 14:42.11 | deuterium | oh no, wrong. it does seem to set one, though it didn't notify me about it. basically, it locked me out from my own mysql.. lol |
| 14:42.31 | themill | !I forgot mysql initial password |
| 14:42.38 | themill | kicks dpkg |
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| 14:43.37 | themill | !forgot mysql root password |
| 14:43.37 | dpkg | If you've forgotten the <MySQL> root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables; mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld; /etc/init.d/mysql start See also http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html, <mysql initial password>. |
| 14:43.51 | deuterium | finally found the reason for the problem: phpmyadmin lacks a dependency on mysql-server.. it didn't install mysql-server when i installed phpmyadmin. |
| 14:44.17 | xk | deuterium: well... what if the mysql server is a remote one? |
| 14:44.22 | deuterium | themill: thx anyway.. i guess i'll be prompted to create an admin account for mysql-server now that i install it explicitly |
| 14:44.28 | deuterium | xk: true and valid point |
| 14:44.40 | magyar | hi, how can i get framebuffer to work in squeeze? |
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| 14:46.41 | deuterium | xk: technically, it doesn't require a local mysql-server. the debconf scripts however assume there is a local mysql-server running w/o checking for that first. they simply ask for the mysql admin pwd to create the db for phpmyadmin. there's no way to specify a remote mysql-server (unless the verbosity of the scripts were increased prior to installing phpmyadmin, perhaps). |
| 14:47.09 | xk | i could only specify a remote server after installation, and with dpkg --reconfigure phpmyadmin |
| 14:47.20 | deuterium | xk: ah ok |
| 14:47.25 | xk | or dpkg-reconfigure i dont remember. |
| 14:47.50 | themill | a different debconf priority level would show you that on initial installation |
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| 14:48.38 | deuterium | i'm actually fine with a local one.. it's just a minor glitch in how this is handled by default |
| 14:49.11 | deuterium | i should adjust the debconf prio level manually |
| 14:49.24 | deuterium | don't like to be not asked important questions ;) |
| 14:49.47 | deuterium | s/to be not/not to be/ |
| 14:50.13 | deuterium | thx for the pointers, however! |
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| 14:55.25 | Phr34Ck | hello everyone. I'm not sure if this is "debian" question. I'm running windows 7 and have debian in a virtual environment using VirtualBox. I would like to ssh to debian from the host os (windows 7) but I'm unable to do so. How do I ssh to debian from the host os? |
| 14:55.59 | xk | 1) check if openssh-server is running 2) check if windows has firewall of outbound connections enabled. |
| 14:56.09 | xk | er, installed and if sshd is running. |
| 14:56.42 | xk | 3) probably networking in virtualbox isnt setup right. |
| 14:56.48 | Phr34Ck | xk: thanks for the fast reply. I checked them both. The problem I think is with the ip address? |
| 14:56.57 | Phr34Ck | xk: probably the networking part. |
| 14:56.59 | xk | what are the ip addresses and netmasks? |
| 14:57.28 | Phr34Ck | xk: 10.0.2.15 255.255.255.0 |
| 14:57.34 | xk | for which one |
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| 14:57.45 | Phr34Ck | that's for debian |
| 14:57.48 | xk | and the host? |
| 14:57.50 | Phr34Ck | the host has : 10.0.2.10 |
| 14:58.13 | xk | should be ok. what networking type did you enable in virtualbox? |
| 14:58.21 | Phr34Ck | xk: natting |
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| 14:58.26 | xk | although... i tried to get virtualbox working in linux and I couldnt get it to work at all |
| 14:58.34 | xk | Phr34Ck: try bridge mode. |
| 14:59.25 | Phr34Ck | xk: ummm. I will try that. I remember someone mentioning something about this. I was asking how to increase the resolution without installing X and someone mentioned sshing and then he said about being careful with the network type, but I forgot all about it ;(. |
| 14:59.31 | Phr34Ck | I will try that. |
| 14:59.37 | jtniehof | Phr34Ck: this thread might help: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19574 Also lots of google hits for "virtualbox ssh to guest"--I haven't set it up myself, but it does look like it takes a little care |
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| 15:00.04 | Phr34Ck | jtniehof: thanks for the link. |
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| 15:02.01 | txb | I also use guest to guest connections with networkbridge adapter in virtualbox |
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| 15:03.05 | Phr34Ck | thanks a lot guys. It worked =). I used bridged connection. |
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| 15:03.51 | mwnn | Hi, i have an external 1TB hard drive. I am not able to mount it using KDE's device notifier. I get a "Permission denied" error |
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| 15:06.50 | themill | mwnn: are you in the plugdev group? |
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| 15:07.49 | mwnn | yes |
| 15:08.24 | themill | mwnn: you might do better in #debian-kde on irc.oftc.net |
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| 15:08.50 | mwnn | themill: ok |
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| 15:14.04 | arumaniac | hi all i am having a problem trying to mount a external drive, can anyone help me |
| 15:14.05 | arumaniac | http://pastebin.com/P4Q2LG6M |
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| 15:16.11 | arumaniac | http://pastebin.com/34QceARf |
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| 15:19.21 | ducktype | hi |
| 15:20.02 | ducktype | someone know what "dpkg: warning: splush: conffile '/etc/init' is not a plain file or symlink (= '/etc/init')" |
| 15:20.05 | ducktype | means? |
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| 15:21.25 | valdyn | ducktype: thats a bad package |
| 15:22.08 | ducktype | for sure i'm doing something wrong |
| 15:22.29 | valdyn | ducktype: maybe, maybe not, we dont know what you are doing |
| 15:22.36 | ducktype | i've created the package with checkinstall |
| 15:22.37 | valdyn | ducktype: but the package youre messing with is bad |
| 15:23.08 | ducktype | the point is it's not ok to have this structure in the data.tar? |
| 15:23.20 | themill | sends ducktype back to #ubuntu |
| 15:23.33 | ducktype | splush_20110306-1_i386.deb/data.tar/./etc/init/splush.conf |
| 15:23.36 | ducktype | lol ok |
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| 15:24.48 | gajop | anything similar to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji for .deb packages for either debian/ubuntu? |
| 15:25.20 | jtniehof | ducktype: FWIW I haven't heard of anybody having good results with "makes the package for you automatically!" like cmake or checkinstall |
| 15:25.41 | valdyn | actually, I like checkinstall |
| 15:26.40 | valdyn | easy method to keep track of non-debian software and whatever files it installs |
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| 15:26.44 | marienz | anyone receiving messages from j-invariant? |
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| 15:26.57 | ducktype | marienz: yes |
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| 15:27.13 | marienz | conveniently I just got msgd myself |
| 15:27.19 | themill | heh |
| 15:27.43 | jtniehof | marienz: yes.... |
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| 15:27.51 | valdyn | gajop: debian packages are built automagically, so sure debian has "something like" koji, question is what *you* need |
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| 15:29.38 | ducktype | dpkg is doing wrong checks for my deb content why should want that /etc/init is a plain file or a symlink!!! |
| 15:29.38 | dpkg | ducktype: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
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| 15:30.15 | ducktype | lol my english is soo bad? :( |
| 15:30.42 | gajop | valdyn: i have never used debian, or at least i'm not familiar enough with it; i am looking for a distro that will allow me to have easy "source goes in along with package-related info(dependencies, conflicts, versions...) => easily installable package with metadata comes out"; oh and those installable packages need to be "clean" - built in a clean root or however debian does it, i don't want any extra |
| 15:30.43 | valdyn | ducktype: dpkg knows about "conffiles", those probably cant be directories |
| 15:30.44 | gajop | dependencies that aren't in the package file caught in |
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| 15:30.53 | xk | hmm |
| 15:31.08 | gajop | it would also be nice if it would give clean output logs, but i guess i can redirect that stuff myself from 2> and deal with it |
| 15:31.42 | valdyn | gajop: try gentoo |
| 15:31.46 | valdyn | gajop: or arch |
| 15:32.34 | ducktype | valdyn: good point, so checkinstall have wrongly tagged "/etc/init" as a conffile instead should only have tagged /etc/init/splush.conf |
| 15:32.51 | valdyn | ducktype: that is what it looked like, yea |
| 15:33.15 | gajop | valdyn: i used both extensively; so i guess if i really need to, ill go with arch, i was hoping to go with something that had more stability (arch updates stuff too often) |
| 15:33.43 | xk | sigh. how would I catch a perl cgi error. I'm getting http code 500 |
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| 15:34.47 | themill | gajop: you might want to ask yourself if there is anything to be gained by recompiling packages at all. |
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| 15:35.57 | poisonbit | xk, if you do not see nothing in he browser, check the httpd error.log, and then read perldoc CGI::Carp for produce errors "on the browser" instead of log |
| 15:35.58 | gajop | themill: you're assuming things ;) i don't want to recompile anything, i'm trying to setup a compile server and compile bots that will create packages requested on the server and upload those packages back so other "people" can download them |
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| 15:36.43 | xk | poisonbit: I think it related to me not doing \n\n after the headers. But I only manipulated that when I needed to do a redirect or not. |
| 15:36.49 | themill | gajop: mentors.debian.net and debexpo both do this already; I don't know how much of Ubuntu's PPA stuff is free software. |
| 15:37.00 | xk | but something must have been spitting out a warning message. |
| 15:37.28 | themill | gajop: debian's buildd setup is very much tied to internal infrastructure and you probably don't want to touch that. |
| 15:37.50 | poisonbit | https://build.opensuse.org/ |
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| 15:38.48 | ducktype | valdyn: found, http://muzso.hu/2009/01/14/bug-in-checkinstall-regarding-conffiles |
| 15:38.53 | ducktype | checkinstall bug |
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| 15:39.37 | gajop | themill: i'm not sure if that will fit my needs |
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| 15:42.34 | _0x47 | Hi I tried to patch a debian package with quilt, but after 'quilt new install.patch' -> 'quilt add' -> [some code changes] -> 'quilt refresh', I can see the changes in 'quilt diff', but there is no file in debian/patches. What wrong here? |
| 15:43.20 | gajop | themill: or well, maybe debexpo is, not enough info on that site though, ill grab it and see what it has |
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| 15:44.14 | smacnay | Where would I look for documentation on load parameters for a kernel module? On my system, that is. |
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| 15:45.31 | themill | gajop: debexpo is a work in progress still... someone investing time in it would be good :) |
| 15:45.50 | gajop | themill: i'm familiar with pylons so it should be ok |
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| 15:47.11 | jtniehof | _0x47: did you set up a quiltrc to put it in debian/patches instead of patches ? |
| 15:47.32 | _0x47 | jtniehof: o, no, thanks! I'll try again |
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| 15:48.59 | jtniehof | _0x47: http://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt and http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/howto/quilt.html are both handy if you haven't seen them already |
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| 15:50.31 | _0x47 | jtniehof: Again, thanks! I read some tutorial, but it's not very good. These seem to be much better. |
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| 15:51.57 | dirtycookie | hi I have a question about dhcpd servers |
| 15:52.52 | dirtycookie | when defining pools, which declarations overrides the other? the global ones override the ones in the pool or the other way arount |
| 15:52.54 | dirtycookie | around |
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| 15:54.54 | sanal_madatheth | can anybody help me to find a vocal remover package in debian? |
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| 15:56.15 | nvz | ok someone give me some ideas here.. this iPod was playing fine through rhythmbox last night, now all of a sudden its saying |
| 15:57.05 | nvz | "Couldn't start playback: Unable to start playback pipeline" and is giving errors trying to copy files off it on both my machines even though they can both move files to/from the device using nautilus |
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| 15:57.35 | nvz | And yes, I'm running rhythmbox from a terminal.. with no output on the subject |
| 15:57.36 | dirtycookie | changed accessrights of the files or moved them around? |
| 15:58.02 | nvz | uh.. as I just said nautilus can read/write the device |
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| 15:58.12 | nvz | same user as rhythmbox |
| 15:58.54 | dirtycookie | :/ |
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| 15:59.04 | nvz | yeah tell me about it |
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| 15:59.19 | nvz | I think these two laptops are co-conspiring to make me crazy today |
| 15:59.31 | mowgli | hi, all! i've got a sheevaplug on which i've installed debian6 (on MMC). my wife's laptop has WinVista Home Premium, and i'm not able to get her to see the samba shares (all clear from winXp and other linux boxes). so, i thought of using an ftp server pointint to the same directory as Samba, so all computers work on the same files, and even Vista will have some level of access. the problem is: is it OK to use the same directory |
| 15:59.32 | mowgli | for both samba share and root of ftp server? |
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| 16:00.37 | nvz | mowgli: yes but the samba should work |
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| 16:03.50 | nvz | mowgli: have you tried typing the \\servername\share in the address bar? |
| 16:03.51 | pingouin | how can i make the /etc/default/keyboard read by the system, without reboot the computer ? |
| 16:04.02 | pingouin | if i make change in it |
| 16:04.05 | nvz | I can't for the life of me think of what thats called right now |
| 16:04.38 | nvz | ah UNC |
| 16:04.44 | nvz | f'n TLA's.. heh |
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| 16:05.10 | Holborn | pingouin: man loadkeys |
| 16:05.33 | pingouin | Holborn: thank you |
| 16:05.43 | eBittin | Somone knows if i can get Spotify to work in Debian PPC? |
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| 16:07.00 | nvz | mowgli: windows also has this issue if I recall correctly, that filesharing is disabled by default and if its not turned on you cannot browse the network |
| 16:07.53 | o0ze | eBittin: spotify doesn't have a PPC compiled version for linux |
| 16:07.57 | mowgli | nvz: on Vista? yes, and nothing happens (even if i turn off its firewall). but on winxp \\server\folder works fine. |
| 16:08.17 | eBittin | o0ze: and i can't get wine or something :p |
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| 16:08.44 | o0ze | eBittin: there are opensource clients like spoktify but you will need premium for that |
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| 16:08.53 | eBittin | ah |
| 16:09.01 | hemu | despotify should compile on ppc i guess |
| 16:09.03 | o0ze | eBittin: that might work with PPC |
| 16:09.11 | eBittin | ah thanks for the info |
| 16:09.17 | nvz | mowgli: right well the problem is configuration of either the server or the client.. the winxp machine has nothing to do with this.. it supports the samba regardless.. Vista on the other hand uses different methods which are usable with samba but only if configured right |
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| 16:09.56 | Guest42608 | hi, how can i change the default virtual networks settings in virt-manager? |
| 16:10.01 | Holborn | eBittin: is not the same but .. is nice: grooveshark.com |
| 16:10.14 | eBittin | don't have flash installed tough :p |
| 16:10.26 | eBittin | but yea i know about grooveshark |
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| 16:11.23 | nvz | mowgli: basically you have to avoid using authentication on samba or reconfigure vista to use the old style authentication |
| 16:11.36 | eBittin | are there any .deb or something for despotify, i suck at compiling |
| 16:11.53 | nvz | mowgli: setting a guest user in the config and using that for vista usually works |
| 16:13.32 | nvz | mowgli: setting of interest would likely be setting "LmCompatibilityLevel" to 1 in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\ |
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| 16:14.05 | nvz | mowgli: would require a system restart, but should make Vista HP work like XP on the network |
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| 16:17.47 | emirsaltuk | slm |
| 16:17.53 | nvz | Things like this are exactly why I do not support windows anymore.. heh. Not only did they change the behavior but the funny thing is Vista Home Premium doesn't even seem to have local policy |
| 16:18.12 | nvz | its just downright ignorant to cripple the OS unless you pay an extra $100 |
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| 16:18.32 | Wooga | hello, how do i disable framebuffer in debian? |
| 16:18.35 | Bartzy | /etc/profile is for login shells and /etc/bashrc (and ~/.bashrc) is for non-login shells ? ~/.bashrc is not executed in non-login shells ? Also, how bash tells if it's a login shell or not ? |
| 16:18.39 | Wooga | not in the grub, but in system itself |
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| 16:19.43 | nvz | Wooga: pass nofb or vga=normal to the kernel command line via grub |
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| 16:20.16 | emirsaltuk | turkish debian room? |
| 16:20.21 | nvz | !tr |
| 16:20.21 | dpkg | somebody said tr was türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
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| 16:21.26 | Wooga | nvz: any hints how to do this properly with grub2 /etc/grub configuration system? |
| 16:22.05 | nvz | Wooga: to be perfectly honest, I haven't a clue.. I'm just as new to grub2 as the next guy.. but I can have a look real quick.. hold on |
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| 16:23.53 | Wooga | nvz: i tried to pass it manualy (nofb) (in grub menu -> e), but still getting framebuffer on :P |
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| 16:25.20 | nvz | Wooga: what is the specific issue you are having? |
| 16:25.47 | Wooga | nvz: fonts in framebuffer are too damn small. i want regular console with normal sized fonts |
| 16:25.54 | nvz | Wooga: your issue could be KMS and not FB |
| 16:25.57 | Wooga | 80x24 |
| 16:26.13 | Wooga | kms ? |
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| 16:26.26 | nvz | Kernel Mode Setting |
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| 16:27.35 | nvz | also if the FB is working you can always just change the FB settings.. but vga=normal should do it |
| 16:29.13 | Wooga | nvz: thanks! blacklisting nouveau keernel module solved my problem |
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| 16:30.01 | nvz | Wooga: well that may effect X working |
| 16:30.24 | Wooga | nope. nvidia proprietary drivers are going along X just fine |
| 16:30.39 | Wooga | (at least for me) |
| 16:30.46 | nvz | ah.. well strangely I have the problem you described on my ATI machine, but not on my nVidia one |
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| 16:35.26 | flo` | hi |
| 16:35.47 | flo` | i've upgraded lenny to squeeze, and i (of course xD) have some problems now ;) |
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| 16:36.20 | flo` | first, udev is flooding my console with messages like "udevd[1291]: add_to_rules: unknown key 'TAG' in /lib/udev/rules.d/70-acl.rules:37" at boot time |
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| 16:36.57 | flo` | "unknown key 'SYMLINK{unique}" and "SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, ..." are the other errors which are there |
| 16:37.00 | flo` | how can i fix that? |
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| 16:37.41 | nvz | something tells me you didnt follow the upgrade proceedure |
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| 16:38.24 | nvz | probably just did an apt-get update && apt-get upgradee |
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| 16:39.56 | nvz | !tell flo` about lenny->squeeze |
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| 16:41.36 | flo` | nvz, i have read the upgrade procedure, however with some deviations |
| 16:42.05 | flo` | as i were using a self-built kernel, i made sure that these CONFIGs are activated/deactivated as needed (they are) |
| 16:42.17 | flo` | of course, i didn't install linux-image-something then |
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| 16:42.34 | flo` | then i ran apt-get install udev |
| 16:42.37 | flo` | then i rebooted |
| 16:42.47 | flo` | and only then i did the dist-upgrade |
| 16:42.56 | flo` | nvz, was that correct? or did i make a mistake? |
| 16:43.35 | nvz | flo`: idk.. I was just guessing at what you did wrong.. you didn't actually pastbin the log, and idk what you may or may not have done wrong compiling your own kernel |
| 16:43.48 | flo` | what does "idk" mean? |
| 16:43.52 | nvz | !idk |
| 16:43.52 | dpkg | methinks idk is I don't know... Do you? |
| 16:44.06 | flo` | ah |
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| 16:44.31 | flo` | which log? the daemons.log containing the lines i posted above? |
| 16:44.46 | nvz | sure why not.. |
| 16:45.29 | nvz | the lenny squeeze transition was a messy one |
| 16:46.08 | nvz | I followed the proceedure to the T and of the two machines sitting in front of me, the one I upgraded still has issues the newly installed one does not |
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| 16:47.34 | llutz | flo`:to fix that "SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version.." blah change your udev rules-files SYSFS into ATTR |
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| 16:47.53 | tweek | question about wireless chipsets and open source: i have an intel wireless chip, where the driver is open source, but the firmware is not. my question is: do wireless chipsets always require a driver AND a firmware, and are there any chipsets that do not require any non-free software? |
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| 16:48.30 | tweek | i heard that broadcom recently released an open-source driver too, but again, apparently you need non-free firmware |
| 16:48.38 | flo` | llutz, ok, thanks |
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| 16:49.17 | CantHasScreen | I can't get a 1024x768 screen resolution on my Rage Pro card |
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| 16:49.27 | stack | hi, I'm using wheezy and iceweasel 3.5.16 and I'm unable to listen html5 audio, I think is a misconfigured pulseaudio because killing it iceweasel uses alsa directly and I'm able to hear sounds in html5. any advice? |
| 16:49.32 | flo` | another problem: switching from a X terminal back to a text-tty doesn't work |
| 16:49.43 | flo` | the tty is fully functional, but i have a black screen :( |
| 16:49.50 | CantHasScreen | I used to be able to get resolutions of 1280x1024, but now I cannot, but now I am unable |
| 16:49.52 | tweek | stack: have you tried padevchooser? |
| 16:49.59 | flo` | black as in "backlight is off" |
| 16:50.18 | tweek | i remember it being necessary sometimes to select the right output for an application/stream in pulseaudio |
| 16:51.12 | tweek | padevchooser will let you assign audio streams (e.g. iceweasel) to output sinks |
| 16:51.46 | CantHasScreen | Yesterday I could have got a 1024x768 screen, but since updating GRUB 2 cfg, I can't ret a proper screen in X11 |
| 16:52.06 | stack | tweek: how? |
| 16:52.24 | CantHasScreen | 800x600 in 16 colours is as far as I can use |
| 16:52.30 | CantHasScreen | err 16 bit colours |
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| 16:52.40 | deuterium | hm.. doesn't debian's apache setup below /var/www lack a whole level? i'd say the doc root should be in /var/www/htdocs instead of just /var/www by default, no? like that, auth files could be put in /var/www/auth, outside of the docroot (which is the way to do it). |
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| 16:52.50 | CantHasScreen | Does anyone know why I cannot get a decent resolution? |
| 16:53.13 | tweek | stack: oh, i just remembered, it was pavucontrol, not padevchooser, my bad. don't have pulse installed currently. install and run 'pavucontrol' |
| 16:53.46 | stack | tweek: I don't see iceweasel output in pavucontrol |
| 16:54.23 | mowgli | nvz: i had already tried the change on registry for "LmCompatibilityLevel", but no change. ,, |
| 16:54.30 | CantHasScreen | Hello?... |
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| 16:56.14 | mowgli | nvz: but for now, is it ok to use same directory for samba share and ftp server? |
| 16:56.47 | nvz | mowgli: sure... they're both file sharing and won't croak if something modifies data they're sharing.. |
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| 16:57.14 | notify-dude | hi |
| 16:57.16 | tweek | stack: hm, then i don't know. in this thread http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12497 there is a chapter about getting pulseaudio sound in iceweasel, but flash, not sure if it applies to html5 as well... |
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| 16:57.45 | stack | tweek: flash works here. |
| 16:57.49 | stack | thanks anyway. |
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| 16:58.57 | flo` | my consoles at startup work, but as soon as i'm in X and try to switch back to a tty, the screen stays black (turned off) |
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| 16:59.19 | flo` | the ttys are functional, i can login, i can even run radeontool light on, but it doesn't help |
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| 17:01.04 | CantHasScreen | Is anyone here even listening? |
| 17:01.46 | nvz | CantHasScreen: nope |
| 17:01.51 | pmsz | flo`: I once had a similar issue which turned out to be related to a device driver |
| 17:01.51 | deuterium | just wondering: is there a program like "color-cat" or "colorcat"? i.e. one that colors cat output similar to how colordiff does? |
| 17:02.03 | pmsz | flo`: once I switched it to another one. the problem disappeared |
| 17:02.06 | deuterium | if not: someone please write it ;) |
| 17:02.07 | flo` | pmsz, which driver? |
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| 17:02.24 | flo` | pmsz, some random driver, or a graphics driver? |
| 17:02.25 | pmsz | flo`: I believe you can still attempt to type "reset" or "stty sane" when your screen is black |
| 17:02.32 | CantHasScreen | lovely |
| 17:02.37 | pmsz | flo`: a graphics driver. iirc |
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| 17:02.47 | flo` | pmsz, didn't help |
| 17:02.57 | notify-dude | why are geeks stupid? |
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| 17:03.12 | nvz | CantHasScreen: us regulars hide on Sunday.. cause its the day tards come to play.. and no offence but your issue sounds self inflicted and complicated to diagnose. Roll back the changes you made or be more specific like forget mentioning you broke it and just ask how to fix it supplying the logs people would need to help |
| 17:03.29 | nvz | CantHasScreen: i.e. /var/log/Xorg.0.log or whatever |
| 17:03.35 | CantHasScreen | I'll check |
| 17:03.55 | pmsz | flo`: check out the Xorg logs, syslog etc. maybe they could give you a clue |
| 17:04.18 | flo` | xorg tells me that DRI doesn't work any more |
| 17:04.21 | flo` | (which is another problem) |
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| 17:05.17 | nvz | CantHasScreen: personally I got a assload of problems here this morning technical and otherwise.. so.. just gotta think about how your issue comes across to people already hesitant to deal with more problems than they have already.. |
| 17:05.22 | flo` | hrm, i'll first try using debians stock kernel |
| 17:05.28 | flo` | (was using a custom one) |
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| 17:07.27 | notify-dude | my GRUB doesnt show up on boot. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=u8peQ9gF |
| 17:07.38 | notify-dude | i want to make it show up |
| 17:07.43 | CantHasScreen | http://pastebin.com/Zequuc4v - with a fully updated, stock-kernel system |
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| 17:08.03 | CantHasScreen | lxrandr doesn't allow any high than 800x600 |
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| 17:09.08 | mo3alleq | hi. I another instance of xchat running but it's hidden. it did not go into the tray. how can I show it? |
| 17:09.24 | CantHasScreen | run xchat again? |
| 17:09.58 | mo3alleq | i would yes.. but I just want to raise that instance |
| 17:10.00 | nvz | CantHasScreen: try using paste.debian.net if possible next time this site blows.. heh |
| 17:10.45 | nvz | CantHasScreen: what is your video card? and do you know what driver you were and/or think you are using? |
| 17:11.33 | ZykoticK9 | CantHasScreen, (i certainly can't help) but ya, as nvz mentioned - i can't see your pastebin at all |
| 17:11.58 | CantHasScreen | Rage Pro AGP 2x, with Mach64 drivers |
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| 17:12.43 | nvz | CantHasScreen: right well this log indicates a lack of memory and a lack of a mach64 driver in the kernel... did you just install a different kernel? |
| 17:13.23 | CantHasScreen | http://paste.debian.net/109747/ |
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| 17:13.33 | CantHasScreen | nvz: I booted the default squeeze kernel |
| 17:13.42 | CantHasScreen | only modification is adding sound card firmware |
| 17:14.00 | CantHasScreen | but not into the kernel itself |
| 17:14.13 | ZykoticK9 | CantHasScreen, just so you understand what your paste looks like http://imagebin.org/141482 |
| 17:14.32 | nvz | ZykoticK9: you gotta click the line width link.. the site is retarded |
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| 17:14.57 | ZykoticK9 | nvz, i'm not going to bother - bad site. but thanks. |
| 17:14.57 | CantHasScreen | I've mirrored it to paste.debian.net |
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| 17:16.25 | CantHasScreen | ZykoticK9: I put it on debian's pastezone |
| 17:16.54 | Bogus8 | does the output of mkfs.ext4 get written to a log? I'd like to make notes of the superblocks it created |
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| 17:16.57 | CantHasScreen | I have 8 MB GFX memory, used this kernel version before and have 320 MB DDR RAM |
| 17:17.08 | ZykoticK9 | CantHasScreen, yes thanks - i can read in now, but I'm still no help i'm afraid. Best of luck man. |
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| 17:18.13 | CantHasScreen | I noticed it saying several resolutionms had bad hsync, but I've had the same hw config |
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| 17:32.14 | sako | are there any standards around groups? for example, is there a "staff" group in debian? |
| 17:32.24 | sako | i should say a "staff" equivalent.. |
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| 17:32.35 | WaterRatj | hmm when i use dpkg-reconfigure... and choose azerty it still uses qwerty? |
| 17:32.38 | sako | seems when i make a user it just creates it with the group username |
| 17:33.04 | o0ze | sako: yes thats normal and yes there is a staff group |
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| 17:33.39 | sako | o0ze: whats that normally used for? |
| 17:33.43 | o0ze | sako: running as root is bad practise if thats what you are trying todo |
| 17:33.53 | WaterRatj | anyone can help me to have it fixed? |
| 17:33.59 | o0ze | sako: normal is username:username |
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| 17:34.17 | DasEi | WaterRatj: want to change your console-layout ? |
| 17:34.31 | sako | right.. but some users have more rights than others.. so i guess i can use the staff group for these? |
| 17:34.42 | o0ze | sako: if you need more rights read up on 'sudo' |
| 17:34.49 | o0ze | sako: you should never have todo that |
| 17:34.56 | WaterRatj | I want my keyboard to match mine, its querty now |
| 17:35.02 | o0ze | sako: no i woudn't its very bad |
| 17:35.13 | sako | o0ze: so just leave all users as user:user |
| 17:35.20 | o0ze | sako: yes |
| 17:35.22 | sako | dont add them to any groups for permissions |
| 17:35.22 | DasEi | WaterRatj: fine : sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup |
| 17:35.23 | sako | ok |
| 17:35.40 | o0ze | sako: you can alter what users can use sudo |
| 17:36.06 | sako | o0ze: but say its a webserver and i want everyone to be able to read/write a folder |
| 17:36.18 | sako | i mean all users of the system not everyone |
| 17:36.30 | WaterRatj | DaSEi: thats not what I need |
| 17:36.32 | sako | then i _have_ to add them to something like staff and give g+w |
| 17:36.59 | o0ze | sako: then set the appropriate rights on that location with chmod |
| 17:37.01 | sako | since there is not a group they all share |
| 17:37.03 | mutante | i want to wipe a couple disks, normally i would use DBAN, but i dont want to burn and boot, i want to start DBAN or something like it, from the running OS, because the disks i want to nuke are not the boot device and connected externally through IDE2USB adapter anyways ... just plain "dd" for now..but DBAN would be nicer |
| 17:37.27 | o0ze | sako: chmod can do what you want |
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| 17:37.30 | sako | o0ze: right but if i have 3 users, they dont all share one group i have to do that manually |
| 17:37.47 | o0ze | sako: no read up on chmod |
| 17:38.18 | sako | o0ze: so your telling me it's better to use chmod and give everyone writeable rather than put those 3 users in the same group and give that group writeable? |
| 17:38.27 | sako | doesn't sound right.. |
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| 17:38.51 | o0ze | sako: oh no sorry i though you said everyone yes then its better to put them all in 1 group |
| 17:39.00 | sako | ah ok |
| 17:39.03 | sako | thanks o0ze |
| 17:39.04 | nevyn | sako: you can use setfacl if you want to get exotic. |
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| 17:40.49 | DasEi | WaterRatj: ? that lets you set, both language and layout, what do you need then ? |
| 17:41.35 | WaterRatj | Well normally when you yuse dpkg-reconfigure console-data you can choose what keyboard layout, i choose azerty but still uses qwuerty |
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| 17:42.19 | ZykoticK9 | WaterRatj, that's a funny place for a "u" on your qwerty keyboard ;) |
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| 17:43.05 | WaterRatj | Querty lol |
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| 17:43.13 | WaterRatj | So how do i make my debian use azerty |
| 17:43.26 | _0x47 | Hi again, I managed to use quilt do patch my sources, but somehow the patches are not applied during the build process. As I did it before, and it works without changing anything I'm really wondering why. |
| 17:45.10 | mutante | WaterRatj: try: dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
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| 17:46.03 | _0x47 | Err, I mean, I do a apt-get source, and instantly build. Then it works fine (with applied patches), but if I do 'quilt delete install.path', 'quilt new install.patch', 'quilt add source.cpp', [change some source], 'quilt refresh', it doesn't apply the new patch to the same file as before... |
| 17:46.05 | WaterRatj | lol thats what I did? |
| 17:46.30 | Bop | why cant i install google-chrome-stable in testing ? |
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| 17:46.52 | Bop | No candidate version found for google-chrome-stable |
| 17:47.12 | cahoot | chromium? |
| 17:47.27 | Bop | its named chromium ? |
| 17:47.51 | ZykoticK9 | Bop, google-chrome != chromium |
| 17:47.59 | Bop | no ? |
| 17:48.05 | Bop | whtat's the differences |
| 17:48.25 | ZykoticK9 | google-chrome is google's proprietary version, based off the open source project chromium |
| 17:48.46 | Bop | who develops chromium ? |
| 17:48.57 | ZykoticK9 | Bop, mainly google i'd imagine |
| 17:49.10 | Bop | well i had this weird problem |
| 17:49.20 | dutchfish | Bop: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/chromium-browser |
| 17:49.27 | Bop | video was like the 70's hippes when i suspend to ram |
| 17:49.43 | Bop | now i've uninstalled chrome-unstable to install stable |
| 17:49.46 | Bop | and cant install |
| 17:50.05 | ZykoticK9 | Bop, that sounds like a flash issue, more then a browser issue. |
| 17:50.17 | Bop | but now i have no browser |
| 17:50.29 | Bop | aptitude install google-chrome-stable isnt helping |
| 17:50.34 | ZykoticK9 | Bop, well you could install chromium-browser |
| 17:50.50 | Bop | but why cant i install google-chrome-stable ? |
| 17:50.57 | ZykoticK9 | Bop, FYI you'd need the Google repo to install google-chrome-stable |
| 17:51.07 | Bop | u know what that is ? |
| 17:51.21 | ZykoticK9 | Bop, nope, sorry I use chromium |
| 17:51.32 | Bop | ok gonna try that one |
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| 17:53.57 | Noor_eg | hello im getting error (programme still running not responding [AT Spi registery ]) when i m shutting down my pc |
| 17:54.48 | Bop | ZykoticK9, all chrome extensions works on chromium ? |
| 17:55.02 | deuterium | on squeeze, apache says "RewriteEngine not allowed here" for directory /var/www. any idea where to allow it? i've enabled the rewrite mod using a2modenable. |
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| 17:56.28 | ZykoticK9 | Bop, as far as i know, yes. |
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| 17:57.47 | Bop | damn , its the same |
| 17:57.52 | Bop | videos with red |
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| 18:00.45 | deuterium | apache's error log says: "/var/www/.htaccess: RewriteEngine not allowed here". and .htaccess looks like: http://dpaste.com/479562/ |
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| 18:01.18 | deuterium | do i need to set special "allowoverride rewriteengine" or so? i've only set "allowoverride options" |
| 18:01.49 | jhutchins_lt | deuterium: The master config file determines what changes an ,htaccess file can makie. |
| 18:01.56 | deuterium | to me, this looks like debian wouldn't allow any rewrite engine statements in .htaccess files? |
| 18:01.58 | themill | deuterium: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewriteengine |
| 18:02.05 | jhutchins_lt | deuterium: I've never seen modules modified by it. |
| 18:02.08 | deuterium | jhutchins_lt: oh ok |
| 18:02.25 | themill | (and if you have the ability to edit the apache config files, it's better to do it there than in .htaccess) |
| 18:02.34 | deuterium | jhutchins_lt, themill: i'll take a look, mompl |
| 18:02.43 | deuterium | themill: agreed |
| 18:03.21 | themill | you'll notice that it's the FileInfo override you need in this case |
| 18:03.24 | jhutchins_lt | Although, come to think of it, I think Drupal does some pretty extensive configuration in it's .htaccess file. |
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| 18:06.21 | deuterium | themill, jhutchins_lt: now it works :) in addition to allowoverride options, i also needed to allowoverride fileinfo, indeed. thanks! |
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| 18:12.29 | Bas_The_Real_One | hey guys is there a group for embedded debian? |
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| 18:12.43 | themill | !emdebian |
| 18:12.43 | dpkg | Emdebian is a binary distribution for embedded devices. It is created by the Embedded Debian project, an official Debian sub-project, which aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded projects. http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian http://www.emdebian.org/ #emdebian on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 18:13.46 | Bas_The_Real_One | currently running ubuntu on my hd2 but well I still prefere debian |
| 18:13.49 | Bas_The_Real_One | thx dpkg |
| 18:14.14 | Bas_The_Real_One | btw does anyone how to fix a libtool problem? |
| 18:14.54 | Bas_The_Real_One | I'm running libtool 2.4... upgraded manually from 2.2.6b... now when doing ./configure I get an aclocal.m4 which is build with marcros from the 2.2.6b version... |
| 18:16.51 | jhutchins_lt | Bas_The_Real_One: We don't know how to fix things in ubuntu. |
| 18:17.05 | Bas_The_Real_One | libtool is on debian on my laptop |
| 18:17.16 | Bas_The_Real_One | sorry |
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| 18:22.55 | nvz | how do I figure out what a specific socket is.. getting resource unavailable and trying to narrow down WHAT resource is unavailable |
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| 18:23.47 | nvz | strace says its fd 6 which says in /proc/ that its "6 -> socket:[1553216]" |
| 18:24.10 | nvz | question is, where does that socket lead to |
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| 18:41.37 | inkvizitor68sl | hi all |
| 18:41.55 | inkvizitor68sl | i have such string in route -n: |
| 18:41.56 | inkvizitor68sl | 46.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 18:42.09 | inkvizitor68sl | off course, server unavaliable from 46.0.0.0 |
| 18:42.16 | inkvizitor68sl | how i can delete it ? |
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| 18:42.49 | inkvizitor68sl | route del... |
| 18:42.52 | inkvizitor68sl | but what del? |
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| 18:57.08 | foetus | helpful Link for all the people with an Atheros Wlan-Stick: http://ibaf87.wordpress.com/2010/12/02/tp-link-tl-wn821n-unter-linux-gentoo/ |
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| 18:58.03 | mindwalk | anyone know what would cause this? http://pastebin.com/VGY3Mzqj |
| 18:58.08 | mindwalk | and how to fix it |
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| 18:59.56 | foetus | but its german. |
| 19:01.26 | inkvizitor68sl | mindwalk, under KVM vm? |
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| 19:01.44 | inkvizitor68sl | mindwalk, under Lenny at host and VM ? |
| 19:01.53 | nHarzilei | can somebody help me try to find out more about the weird mouse behaviour i seem to get since upgrading to the xorg in squeeze? |
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| 19:02.13 | inkvizitor68sl | mindwalk, try echo "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && aptitude update && aptitude install linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64 |
| 19:02.22 | inkvizitor68sl | and if it is under VM - aptitude -t "lenny-backports" install "kvm" "libvirt-bin" "virtinst" "bridge-utils" |
| 19:02.28 | mindwalk | inkvizitor68sl: it's the main OS, running on mdadm raid |
| 19:02.46 | inkvizitor68sl | try to use 2.6.32-bpo.5 |
| 19:02.52 | nHarzilei | its quite funny, i was already plagued by kernel bug 9147, where sometimes keys get stuck. now the mouse seems to get that behaviour too sometimes and keeps going into another direction until i start a second x11 instance |
| 19:03.01 | inkvizitor68sl | it is fixed problem for my clients under VMs, so why not to try it at host |
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| 19:04.33 | mindwalk | ok. i'm having a seperate issue on another server. what would cause my mdadm to start checking all of a sudden? |
| 19:04.34 | mindwalk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:06.25 | inedt00 | I have to backup 400GiB. The switch is just 100Mb but the pc "A" and "B" have Gigabit cards. You know any program that configures automagically the IP's and routes if I conect it with a crosover cable? thnks |
| 19:06.51 | inkvizitor68sl | mindwalk, actualy there was monthly check for raids. |
| 19:07.02 | inkvizitor68sl | i remeber it in ubuntu 100% |
| 19:07.06 | inkvizitor68sl | remember* |
| 19:07.11 | rudepeople | good afternoon debian fans... I am having a slight video driver problem... any gurus out there? |
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| 19:07.34 | inkvizitor68sl | inedt00, yeah. bashh + mii-tool xD |
| 19:07.37 | inkvizitor68sl | bash* |
| 19:08.13 | rudepeople | actually, I think my problem is more a compiz problem... not playi9ng nice with frglx... |
| 19:08.19 | rudepeople | *playing |
| 19:08.41 | inkvizitor68sl | inedt00, why you need some auto for it? configure it with sth like 10.0.32.x and forget. or 192.168.32.x, if your local are uses 10.x. |
| 19:08.47 | Bas_The_Real_One | who knows something of vnc? |
| 19:09.00 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, ask... ) |
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| 19:09.14 | Bas_The_Real_One | I have ubuntu... but that doesn't matter here |
| 19:09.27 | inkvizitor68sl | <- ubuntu support xD |
| 19:09.32 | Bas_The_Real_One | when I run my phone stand alone... it runs the e17 gui |
| 19:09.33 | inkvizitor68sl | russian loco <_< |
| 19:10.07 | Bas_The_Real_One | when i start tightvncserver and then on the guest xtightvncviewer... I get a gnome-gui instead of e17 |
| 19:10.12 | inedt00 | inkvizitor68sl, because I will use it normally with different computers, and I want to know if I have to script it, or there is actually a program that do exactly that |
| 19:11.01 | Bas_The_Real_One | how can i tell tightvnc that I want it to use e17? |
| 19:11.03 | inkvizitor68sl | inedt00, you can try to configure dhcpd at one of them. |
| 19:11.14 | magicianlord | is anyone familiar with gmail |
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| 19:11.22 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, there are x11vnc for it |
| 19:11.33 | Bas_The_Real_One | magicianlord a little bit |
| 19:12.15 | Bas_The_Real_One | @ inkvizitor68sl installing now |
| 19:12.17 | inedt00 | inkvizitor68sl, yeah. i was looking for a light DHCP server, but I think I'll finally install dhcpd |
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| 19:12.21 | magicianlord | if you close and delete the account, they presumably still keep all the information. or is the information securely wiped, if at all, after a certain time |
| 19:12.37 | inkvizitor68sl | inedt00, there are no any another adequate dhcpd |
| 19:12.46 | inkvizitor68sl | magicianlord, keeps |
| 19:12.50 | Bas_The_Real_One | best to contact google staff on that |
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| 19:12.57 | magicianlord | then it's not really closed, is it |
| 19:13.01 | inkvizitor68sl | magicianlord, keeps lot of time at cloud and all the time at tapes |
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| 19:13.23 | magicianlord | how do you get them to permanently delete all the e-mails |
| 19:13.40 | Bas_The_Real_One | send them a mail and ask them to remove the account from there servers |
| 19:13.46 | magicianlord | will that work |
| 19:13.51 | Bas_The_Real_One | I guess |
| 19:13.57 | magicianlord | will they honor that |
| 19:13.58 | Bas_The_Real_One | inkvizitor68sl: how to use x11vnc? |
| 19:14.09 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, open terminal and just run x11vnc |
| 19:14.27 | inkvizitor68sl | if you will need some options - x11vnc will tell you which one |
| 19:14.37 | inedt00 | inkvizitor68sl, thanks you |
| 19:14.55 | inkvizitor68sl | magicianlord, no, they will not do it |
| 19:15.12 | inkvizitor68sl | magicianlord, and you can't delete mails physically |
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| 19:15.39 | inkvizitor68sl | magicianlord, if users able to do it on such system - it will call huge fragmentation in future |
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| 19:16.18 | inkvizitor68sl | magicianlord, you mails will be deleyed only when their fs will start to restructure next time (i think it is every 2-3 months) |
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| 19:18.05 | magicianlord | inkvizitor68sl: restructure? can you explain this. so, they will be deleted at that time after you clos account? |
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| 19:19.18 | inkvizitor68sl | magicianlord, it looks like "copy all not deleted info to new hdd and wipe old hdd" |
| 19:19.26 | inkvizitor68sl | in simple imagination |
| 19:19.41 | inkvizitor68sl | actually no one know how google cloud works xD |
| 19:19.51 | romel_ | hi guys. is it possible to set default media player with update-alternatives? |
| 19:20.02 | inkvizitor68sl | this scheme very closed and uses at big file storage with active read\write |
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| 19:20.09 | inkvizitor68sl | badoo, vkontakte, facebook, etc. |
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| 19:20.52 | magicianlord | inkvizitor68sl: and what happens to the old hdd/tape |
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| 19:21.07 | inkvizitor68sl | arrr |
| 19:21.15 | magicianlord | is it physically destroyed |
| 19:21.21 | gsr | while SSHing into a box running debian 6, I lost my connection. This happened while installing tomcat6, during which I was at the configure stage (dpkg --configure). Now I'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/rjhjLVJu. Can I force dpkg to just start over? |
| 19:21.24 | inkvizitor68sl | s/closed/close/ = near, i mean |
| 19:21.28 | FriarLaurence | hi, does anybody know which package has the graphics driver which is used by the tty console? (without xorg) |
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| 19:21.46 | inkvizitor68sl | magicianlord, i think sometimes they trash it... they have no another unlimited planet to keep all tapes =) |
| 19:21.48 | gsr | by start over, I mean force dpkg for forget the unfinished configuration? |
| 19:22.19 | jaw^ | hi, debin 6 default install + xen (4.0.1, amd64) doesn't work very well: http://vovoid.net/pictures/20110306_001.jpg |
| 19:22.21 | inkvizitor68sl | gsr, rerun last aptitude/apt-get command |
| 19:22.22 | magicianlord | inkvizitor68sl: ok. how do you know that they copy all nondeleted email to the new one and dispose of the old? have you read this is their process? |
| 19:23.28 | inkvizitor68sl | magicianlord, about copy to tapes i know from their last press-releases (when they loosed some accounts and restored it day later) |
| 19:23.48 | magicianlord | yes, i read taht. |
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| 19:24.16 | inkvizitor68sl | magicianlord, how their fs works i know form lections by sysadmins, who works at big projects (not google, but our local search/mail provider) |
| 19:24.41 | inkvizitor68sl | many of yandex SA worked at google some time ago, so it is almost similiar |
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| 19:26.25 | magicianlord | inkvizitor68sl: thanks. |
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| 19:26.36 | magicianlord | have to go. good day |
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| 19:27.06 | inedt00 | \quit |
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| 19:28.24 | rudepeople | how can I get debian to shut down without asking for root password, and what do I need to do to get it to suspend to s3 properly? |
| 19:29.22 | rudepeople | when I hit suspend it attempts to suspend then it recovers immediatly without input. |
| 19:30.23 | jhutchins_lt | rudepeople: Hit suspend and DON'T TOUCH IT for about five minutes. |
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| 19:31.28 | anoob | my mic is mute. any tips? |
| 19:31.30 | Bas_The_Real_One | inkvizitor68sl: I get a msg about shmget: (scanline) failed |
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| 19:31.55 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, when? |
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| 19:32.07 | Bas_The_Real_One | when running x11vnc |
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| 19:32.47 | inkvizitor68sl | moment |
| 19:33.02 | Bas_The_Real_One | kk |
| 19:33.11 | Sergey | Hello! Help, please.. I have Debian 6 and default sources.lst. How can I install lame - I need it for MPD |
| 19:33.49 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, give me full paste |
| 19:34.00 | woonix | !lame |
| 19:34.00 | dpkg | LAME is a MP3 encoder, not distributed by Debian due to patent and infrastructure issues, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAME#Patents_and_legal_issues and http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0006/msg01213.html . Binary packages are available from <debian-multimedia>. Applications using <GStreamer> for MP3 output require the LAME plugin (gstreamer0.10-lame package in <dmm>). http://lame.sf.net/ |
| 19:34.12 | ZykoticK9 | Sergey, add debian-multimedia repo |
| 19:34.21 | inkvizitor68sl | rudepeople, you need to add user to some group |
| 19:34.35 | inkvizitor68sl | rudepeople, i not remember which one |
| 19:34.39 | Bas_The_Real_One | #flood 04/05/2010 11:44:00 shmget(scanline) failed. |
| 19:34.39 | Bas_The_Real_One | 04/05/2010 11:44:00 shmget: Function not implemented |
| 19:34.46 | inkvizitor68sl | stupid ubuntu uses "adm" for it |
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| 19:35.50 | Bas_The_Real_One | adm? |
| 19:35.58 | Bas_The_Real_One | I need to run it with sudo? |
| 19:36.33 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, off course you will be able to run it with sudo ) |
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| 19:36.41 | inkvizitor68sl | as with sudo you are executing it as root |
| 19:36.49 | Sergey | ZykoticK9, How to do it? How to add? Have added deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free to etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 19:37.14 | inkvizitor68sl | but there ssytem group which able to execute halt/shutdown/etc without UID 0 |
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| 19:38.18 | ZykoticK9 | Sergey, your source line seems good, just add the keyring "wget http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/d/debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-multimedia-keyring_2010.12.26_all.deb" then update and you should find lame. |
| 19:38.42 | ZykoticK9 | Sergey, sorry, you need to install that keyring deb too |
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| 19:39.16 | inkvizitor68sl | oops sorry. Bas_The_Real_One it was not for you |
| 19:39.30 | inkvizitor68sl | rudepeople, look my last messages. |
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| 19:39.53 | inkvizitor68sl | rudepeople, also you can use sudo with option NOPASSWD for powercontrol commands |
| 19:40.00 | Bas_The_Real_One | inkvizitor68sl: does x11vnc work with xtightvncviewer? |
| 19:40.11 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, have to work |
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| 19:41.07 | Drugo | hi |
| 19:41.37 | Sergey | ZykoticK9, what can it be? ping www.debian-multimedia.org |
| 19:41.37 | Sergey | ping: unknown host www.debian-multimedia.org |
| 19:42.03 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, ipcs -m | wc -l |
| 19:42.07 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, how myuch ? |
| 19:42.11 | inkvizitor68sl | much* ? |
| 19:42.27 | Bas_The_Real_One | 3 |
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| 19:42.32 | inkvizitor68sl | strange |
| 19:42.39 | ZykoticK9 | Sergey, "ping www.debian-multimedia.org" is working for me? |
| 19:42.40 | Bas_The_Real_One | it's running on arm... |
| 19:42.45 | inkvizitor68sl | ah |
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| 19:43.05 | Bas_The_Real_One | and xrandr doesn't work all to well on a 800x480 |
| 19:43.23 | jhutchins_lt | Sergey: |
| 19:43.24 | jhutchins_lt | PING www.debian-multimedia.org (91.121.10.104) 56(84) bytes of data. |
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| 19:43.26 | jhutchins_lt | 64 bytes from debian-multimedia.org (91.121.10.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=130 ms |
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| 19:45.06 | jhutchins_lt | Sergey: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.debian.org |
| 19:45.21 | Bas_The_Real_One | so wot do you suggest? |
| 19:45.54 | Bas_The_Real_One | x11vnc fails on shmget because the function isn't implented |
| 19:46.03 | jhutchins_lt | Bas_The_Real_One: xrandr is an xorg tool, doesn't work differently on different resolutions. |
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| 19:46.20 | jhutchins_lt | Bas_The_Real_One: Your chipset or monitor might not work on certain resolutions, but it's not xrandr. |
| 19:46.54 | Bas_The_Real_One | my monitor only support 800x480 hence the part where it is 4,3" |
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| 19:50.41 | rudepeople | inkvizitor68sl: looking for said group now... |
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| 19:56.36 | inkvizitor68sl | rudepeople, i think it is faster with sudo, as i can't find it too |
| 19:56.56 | inkvizitor68sl | ahm oO |
| 19:57.01 | inkvizitor68sl | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15K 2008-08-12 18:20 /sbin/halt |
| 19:57.07 | inkvizitor68sl | what the |
| 19:57.45 | Bas_The_Real_One | inkvizitor68sl: I keep getting that shmget isn't supported |
| 19:57.55 | inkvizitor68sl | rudepeople, what username? |
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| 19:58.44 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, you "disabled System V IPC which apparently contains the information for shmget()" (c) google |
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| 19:59.00 | Bas_The_Real_One | erm I didn't... |
| 19:59.01 | inkvizitor68sl | so x11vnc will not work without kernel compiling |
| 19:59.09 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, you - not, maintainers |
| 19:59.10 | Bas_The_Real_One | bummer |
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| 19:59.18 | inkvizitor68sl | hm |
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| 19:59.30 | Bas_The_Real_One | so how can I re-enable it? |
| 19:59.57 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/remmina try this one |
| 20:00.41 | Bas_The_Real_One | I'm installing it on ubuntu |
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| 20:02.07 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, it is armel or clear arm/ |
| 20:02.09 | inkvizitor68sl | ? |
| 20:02.29 | Bas_The_Real_One | armel |
| 20:02.39 | inkvizitor68sl | so there will be no problems |
| 20:02.40 | Bas_The_Real_One | and maverick has remmina |
| 20:02.47 | Bas_The_Real_One | how do I use remmina? |
| 20:02.51 | inkvizitor68sl | in remmina there are option "incoming VNC connection" |
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| 20:03.05 | inkvizitor68sl | where you can set port, username, etc |
| 20:03.07 | inkvizitor68sl | mmoment |
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| 20:03.50 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, look under arrow http://itmages.ru/image/view/141600/19d0c62e |
| 20:04.36 | Bas_The_Real_One | it doesn't run... segmentation fault |
| 20:04.48 | inkvizitor68sl | >_< |
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| 20:05.36 | Bas_The_Real_One | yeah due to XRANDR which has the same issue |
| 20:05.41 | jhutchins_lt | Bas_The_Real_One: What release are you on? |
| 20:05.55 | Bas_The_Real_One | maverick |
| 20:06.12 | jhutchins_lt | !ubuntu |
| 20:06.13 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 20:06.31 | Bas_The_Real_One | 2.6.32.9-38182-g6ad7e77 |
| 20:06.36 | jhutchins_lt | Bas_The_Real_One: If you'd care to install Debian and see if you had the same issues we'd be glad to help. |
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| 20:07.07 | Bas_The_Real_One | I'm working on that matter but there's much to learn about it... it's never been done before |
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| 20:08.53 | Bas_The_Real_One | so I follow an ubuntu how-to and try to replace the ubuntu stuff with debian |
| 20:09.26 | Bas_The_Real_One | which would be in favor of the htc hd2... debian or emdebian |
| 20:09.46 | inkvizitor68sl | oh |
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| 20:09.59 | inkvizitor68sl | Bas_The_Real_One, you are running it from windows? |
| 20:10.07 | inkvizitor68sl | with huge file from your sd card ? |
| 20:10.14 | Bas_The_Real_One | via haret... like I've always done with android |
| 20:10.16 | Bas_The_Real_One | yes inkvizitor68sl |
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| 20:11.06 | inkvizitor68sl | oh |
| 20:11.12 | inkvizitor68sl | it is not even ubuntu =) |
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| 20:11.31 | inkvizitor68sl | i ran it - it was something strange |
| 20:11.43 | Bas_The_Real_One | this is ubuntu all right but it runs on a android kernel |
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| 20:11.48 | Bas_The_Real_One | which is odd |
| 20:12.08 | Bas_The_Real_One | I was pointed to freesmartphone.org but that needs flashing... something which I don't intend to do... |
| 20:12.10 | inkvizitor68sl | oooh |
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| 20:12.27 | Bas_The_Real_One | that's why I want to do a building kernel from scratch |
| 20:12.28 | Bas_The_Real_One | with debian |
| 20:13.46 | Bas_The_Real_One | i wonder if debian would need the hardware drivers which are maintained by google |
| 20:14.00 | Bas_The_Real_One | wouldn't debian or emdebian support most of the htc hardware? |
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| 20:14.35 | jhutchins_lt | Bas_The_Real_One: It's not whether Debian supports the hardware, it's whether the linux kernel supports it. |
| 20:15.13 | Bas_The_Real_One | yeah that's what I mean |
| 20:15.41 | Bas_The_Real_One | main problem is that all works with the compiled android kernel... except when you don't run android... no sound... |
| 20:15.43 | Bas_The_Real_One | and that sucks |
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| 20:18.29 | digatech | hai guys |
| 20:19.09 | digatech | So, if I want Debian installed with Gnome. Can I just download CD 1 or do I need them all? |
| 20:19.25 | digatech | Cause I'm assuming CD 1 is install CD and the rest of the CD's are like a repo/optional. |
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| 20:19.57 | mattmatteh | installing debian-6.0.0-amd64-netinst and i am got an error about cpio_2.11-4_amd64.deb being corrupt, the md5sum of the cd after i burned matches whats in the md5sum file on the download site, i think the cd should be ok. not sure what to do since it appears the cd burned ok |
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| 20:24.47 | ndnihil | if that's the only error you get, continue, then after it boots on its own, update then upgrade |
| 20:24.52 | ndnihil | should sort itself out |
| 20:26.06 | jhutchins_lt2 | mattmatteh: No, no one else has mentioned this particular problem. |
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| 20:26.18 | mattmatteh | ndnihil: tried that, then cpio failes |
| 20:26.36 | mattmatteh | tried twice, and reburned the cd |
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| 20:26.39 | mattmatteh | same error |
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| 20:27.54 | sh_sh | how do I express a dependency to a package from an unofficial source in the control file of a .deb package? |
| 20:28.18 | Bas_The_Real_One | mattmatteh: did you try to run it from an usb bootdisk? |
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| 20:28.52 | mattmatteh | Bas_The_Real_One: 700 MB cd |
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| 20:29.28 | mattmatteh | hmm, tried to install tha base system again, now its asking what kernel to install |
| 20:29.37 | Bas_The_Real_One | just go with the default |
| 20:30.01 | thewanderer1 | maybe you just have a funky CD drive |
| 20:30.01 | mattmatteh | linux-image-2.6-amd64 ? |
| 20:30.04 | mattmatteh | the other is |
| 20:30.11 | mattmatteh | linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 20:30.14 | mattmatteh | .32 seems ancient |
| 20:30.25 | mattmatteh | thewanderer1: i can try the other cd drive, i have 2 |
| 20:30.31 | Bas_The_Real_One | .32 isn't ancient |
| 20:30.39 | mattmatteh | old ? |
| 20:30.40 | Bas_The_Real_One | just go with the 2.6-amd64 |
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| 20:30.48 | mattmatteh | went with that one ^ |
| 20:31.40 | mattmatteh | wonders why there has to be 2 #debian channels |
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| 20:36.02 | dirtycookie | hi |
| 20:36.08 | Bas_The_Real_One | hi dirtycookie |
| 20:36.11 | dirtycookie | I have a little question about dhcpd |
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| 20:36.40 | dirtycookie | where or how do you define the list of known clients with their mac-address |
| 20:37.47 | dirtycookie | im searching the internet for an example but all I get are the manpages |
| 20:37.52 | dirtycookie | of dhcpd.conf |
| 20:38.16 | sh_sh | how do I express a dependency to a package from an unofficial source in the control file of a .deb package? |
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| 20:40.20 | demonkeeper | sh_sh: Use the Depends entry. |
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| 20:41.03 | petemc | dirtycookie: i can show you an example of what i use |
| 20:41.26 | dirtycookie | petemc: ok |
| 20:41.33 | sh_sh | demonkeeper: but is there a way to make the install work when the source isn't in the sources.list? |
| 20:41.46 | petemc | dirtycookie: http://pastie.org/1640526 |
| 20:41.46 | dirtycookie | petemc: you have a link? |
| 20:42.24 | demonkeeper | sh_sh: Sure, you can't resolve the dependency automatically then though. |
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| 20:42.50 | demonkeeper | sh_sh: i.e. you must use dpkg -i pack_a.deb pack_b.deb where pack_a depends on _b |
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| 20:43.38 | dirtycookie | petemc: thanks |
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| 20:44.21 | petemc | np |
| 20:44.26 | sh_sh | demonkeeper: ah well thx |
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| 20:44.46 | dirtycookie | petemc: so ok , host admin101 for example is a known host? |
| 20:44.50 | dirtycookie | host admin101 { hardware ethernet 00:04:76:18:0c:b1; fixed-address 10.0.19.101; } |
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| 20:45.04 | petemc | yes |
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| 20:49.49 | niteye | s2disk (suspend to disk) stopped working some time ago, the computer suspends but then just does a normal boot (it's worked in the past), any ideas on how i could troubleshoot this? |
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| 20:52.21 | dirtycookie | petemc: ok, one last question. how far is it conflicting with a bind-server |
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| 20:53.02 | petemc | dirtycookie: i dont understand the question |
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| 20:56.30 | smacnay | How well does xfce function, in Debian sid, without the core of gnome installed? I want to remove nautilus but keep some gnome cruft. |
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| 20:57.39 | valdyn | smacnay: whatever you remove, as long as xfce4 does not get removed xfce is not affected |
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| 20:58.00 | dirtycookie | petemc:well with bind you have the ip-number hostname assosiation and with you are example, the last host entry is admin101. is that a hostname - ip assosiation |
| 20:58.27 | smacnay | valdyn, thanks - that helps. I enjoy xfce's "direct" feel. No extras and important functionality intact. |
| 20:58.47 | ctp | hi folks. i try to start a daemon via superviser but always get this output by stracing: https://gist.github.com/857654 Anyone here has a hint for me whats going wrong there? |
| 20:58.50 | petemc | dirtycookie: no, i use a script to populate that file and the same script creates forward and reverse dns entries |
| 20:58.58 | smacnay | I also don't use evolution and, without that, see no need to have a lot of gnome stuff running under the hood. |
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| 21:00.16 | dirtycookie | petemc: ok so it hasn't to do with bind then? |
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| 21:01.28 | petemc | dirtycookie: no |
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| 21:04.04 | lynx- | Is there a way to capture audio from other applications with Audacity and alsa? |
| 21:04.21 | lynx- | Or should I waste $50 on Total Recorder for windows |
| 21:04.52 | dirtycookie | petemc: so the name association does work together with bind? I mean dhcpd tells bind that it has that hostname under this ip? |
| 21:05.33 | petemc | dirtycookie: that is possible, but not with my configuration - as i said, i add the dns entries myself |
| 21:06.21 | dirtycookie | petemc: ok, because you got me a little confused |
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| 21:07.41 | petemc | you asked for an example of dhcpd.conf, i gave you one |
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| 21:07.54 | petemc | not sure where the confusion arose |
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| 21:08.51 | dirtycookie | cause I asked "it hasn't to do with bind then?" and you answered no, which meant yes. that is why |
| 21:09.13 | petemc | in my configuration it has nothing to do with bind |
| 21:09.55 | petemc | its just a name i can refer to should i need to |
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| 21:10.32 | Ogmios | BIND? or bind? |
| 21:10.38 | dirtycookie | petemc: understood |
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| 21:13.32 | dirtycookie | petemc: thanks mate you where a help |
| 21:13.37 | petemc | np |
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| 21:19.09 | ctp | hm, no one has an idea whats going wrong in https://gist.github.com/857654 ? |
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| 21:21.15 | jhutchins | ctp: You're not even going to tell us what you're trying to do? Like WHAT daemon you're trying to start? What's supervisor? |
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| 21:21.33 | ctp | jhutchins: daemontools supervise |
| 21:22.17 | jhutchins | ctp: What release are you on? |
| 21:22.28 | ctp | i'm trying to supervise a daemon (beanstalkd) by daemontools |
| 21:23.01 | ctp | supervise retries to start it every second |
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| 21:23.16 | ctp | and strace gives me the output above |
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| 21:37.25 | funabash1 | if i buy a vps with openvz can i choose my own linux dist image then ? |
| 21:37.53 | stockholm | are there backup programs that dont destroy the page cache? |
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| 21:38.57 | little_owl | Hi, I am trying to install Debian. I have the base system installed and I would like to install Gnome. I don't want to use some big metapackage, because I am not able to get rid of Evolution. Please, can you give a hint for minimal set of (meta)packages needed to run Gnome? |
| 21:39.18 | streuner | little_owl: /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 21:39.58 | streuner | little_owl: or just use a lightweighted window-manager, like openbox or such |
| 21:40.33 | streuner | little_owl: how much RAM do you have, how fast is the machine? |
| 21:41.25 | little_owl | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.53 | little_owl | ... to remove Evolution ... |
| 21:42.21 | streuner | little_owl: well, just read the factoid <install gnome>, it gives you alternatives to run a minimal GNOME |
| 21:43.02 | streuner | and yes, it should be possible to run GNOME without evolution |
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| 21:43.45 | little_owl | streuner: Ok, thanks, I am new in Debian coming from Fedora's world and packages are different ... |
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| 21:47.00 | ZykoticK9 | streuner, thanks, I was looking for info in that <install gnome> factoid. |
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| 22:13.21 | jackspike | is it possible to have a camera attached to my pc that is controled by a software that auto starts on boot and starts recording the video of my employes on the harddisk and i can also see that video "live" by giving a user name and password. ? |
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| 22:14.34 | valdyn | jackspike: maybe, but its also illegal in many countries |
| 22:14.51 | jackspike | its not in mine. just need the app |
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| 22:15.26 | arosen | Hi, I have /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_foward = 1 but packets don't see to route between interfaces. Any idea why this could be? |
| 22:15.34 | arosen | My routing tables seem to be fine to me. Also I have no firewalls |
| 22:15.45 | arosen | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.53 | arosen | Here is my routing table http://pastebin.com/mMdJADiE |
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| 22:16.05 | arosen | Packets destin for 130.127.62.2 should be showing up on wlan1 but they are not |
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| 22:20.21 | Diddi | hi! Does anyone know if linux kernel 2.6.32-5 in squeeze support pvusb for usb passthrough in xen? |
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| 22:22.19 | izua | hey there, i havea problem with my webcam. http://imgur.com/xeJFM |
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| 22:22.36 | izua | the picture on top was taken in windows. the picture on hte bottom was taken on debian, with cheese |
| 22:23.42 | izua | the webcam is reporting 640x480, but the quality says otherwise. it's a pixart chipset camera (manufactured bygenius, model islim 300), reported vid/pid pair 093a:2700 |
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| 22:25.58 | aroman | okay guys, so I have a package that I want to build. I use cdbs, and when I build it complains that cdbs is moving python modules into dist-packages, not site-packages. what can I do? |
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| 22:30.47 | piercedwater | hi |
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| 22:31.11 | piercedwater | Can someone link me to a page that explains how to boot Debian 6 without a monitor and keyboard attached? |
| 22:31.26 | NiLoni | would you except something serious going wrong if I swap hard disk to totally different hardware? :p |
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| 22:31.34 | linuxxx | hello |
| 22:31.37 | NiLoni | arch is same tho |
| 22:31.44 | Canar | NiLoni: wouldn't, no |
| 22:31.49 | Canar | unless you have a custom kernel |
| 22:31.58 | NiLoni | basic that comes with 6.0 |
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| 22:32.35 | LinuxGuy2009 | Hi guys I have a few offline machines so I got the 8 DVD repo set. Its not acting like Lenny used to with them. I can add DVD1 and reload the package list in synaptic, then I eject and add DVD2, then when I reload the package list once again, then I have to put DVD1 back in again. When I add DVD3 and reload I have to put back in DVD1 and DVD2, and so on and so on. When I reload the list and it has the arrow at the bottom to see the detai |
| 22:33.28 | linuxxx | compling fluxbox ./configure gives an error that says that it need x window system lbraries and headers to solve it there is one website that says i have to install libx11-dev and other website says xorg-dev which one is correct? |
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| 22:36.53 | jmarsden | linuxxx: fluxbox is packaged for Debian, no need to manually compile it from tarball. Use the dependencies the package specifies. |
| 22:37.57 | linuxxx | jmarsden, yes but i want to compile it |
| 22:38.23 | jmarsden | linuxxx: Then do apt-getr source and then debuild will compile it for you and recreate the package. |
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| 22:38.44 | LinuxGuy2009 | In Lenny I could update the package list a any time and it would read the DVD info for all the disks off the hdd instead of having to put each one back in every time. So I would imagine that something has just changed since Lenny. |
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| 22:40.12 | Delf | Ok, I hope I don't cause anyone brain bleeding. I'm going from win server 2k8 r2 to Debian Squeeze |
| 22:40.59 | rjsalts | Delf: I think a cricket bat would be a more effective tool for brain bleeding |
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| 22:41.34 | Delf | :) |
| 22:41.59 | Delf | We'll see. I'll be asking too many questions soon, whenever I go nuts not knowing how to get something to work. |
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| 22:43.34 | LinuxGuy2009 | When I do a "apt-get update" in a terminal I get this output http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=s8rxNYND |
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| 22:44.08 | LinuxGuy2009 | Im assuming its unable to find these files on the DVDs. |
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| 22:47.30 | themill | LinuxGuy2009: no, it's "Ignoring" those for the update -- the contents of the DVDs are unchanging so there's no need to run an update on them |
| 22:48.22 | o0ze | LinuxGuy2009: if you have a new cdrom use apt-cdrom |
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| 22:50.04 | LinuxGuy2009 | Yes I have been using apt-cdrom and then I have to reload the list for the new set of packages to show up. Thats whats causing the trouble. |
| 22:52.33 | o0ze | LinuxGuy2009: well the Ign: is normal even if you use apt-cdrom and run apt-get update after that |
| 22:53.42 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ok maybe Ill just add them all and as long as hitting refresh doesnt remove anything from the package list then all is fine. Maybe Im just getting a little too paranoid. |
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| 22:54.35 | Naphidia | hey... im installing debian, and I would like to setup a raid, im at the partitioning menu... |
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| 22:54.41 | Naphidia | do i create partitions first? |
| 22:54.52 | Naphidia | or do i just go with configure software raid |
| 22:54.54 | Naphidia | ? |
| 22:55.09 | Naphidia | debian 6.0 |
| 22:55.52 | Naphidia | !RAID |
| 22:55.52 | dpkg | methinks raid is Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. See RAID{0-5}, <software raid>, <fakeraid>, <megaraid>, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels , <raid-resizing> |
| 22:56.48 | Naphidia | I guess what im looking for is clarification on setting up a raid1 partition using the graphical installer for debian 6 |
| 22:57.56 | o0ze | i would reckon you have to setup the software raid before making any partitions not something i've done before |
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| 22:58.26 | Naphidia | yeah me either, i decided to play with virtualization i was told it was a good idea |
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| 23:02.52 | Makuew | How much tb is 200mbit 24/7 in 1 month? |
| 23:03.10 | amphi | several |
| 23:03.14 | Makuew | -_- |
| 23:03.18 | Makuew | but how much, 200TB? |
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| 23:03.51 | amphi | the calculation is not complex |
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| 23:04.23 | Naphidia | what raid should i be using if i only have two drives but want decent performance |
| 23:04.25 | Naphidia | ? |
| 23:04.27 | amphi | unless you start to account for protocol overhead and so on |
| 23:04.58 | petemc | Makuew: http://web.forret.com/tools/bandwidth.asp?speed=200&unit=Mbps |
| 23:05.05 | Ricardo__ | how install wine 1.2 in squeezE? |
| 23:05.14 | ZykoticK9 | Naphidia, with two drives i think you're limited to raid0 and raid1. |
| 23:05.24 | Naphidia | mmk so raid1 |
| 23:05.26 | Naphidia | is prob best |
| 23:05.27 | Makuew | Thank you Petemc |
| 23:05.39 | petemc | np |
| 23:06.26 | epsilon | Naphidia: for performance, raid0 |
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| 23:06.41 | ZykoticK9 | Ricardo__, lamaresh's wine repo has 1.1.32 http://www.lamaresh.net/ |
| 23:06.43 | epsilon | Naphidia: but only use it if you're aware of the risk |
| 23:06.57 | Ricardo__ | 1.0.4.2 |
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| 23:07.04 | o0ze | Naphidia: depends on your needs read up on what RAID0 RAID1 means |
| 23:07.05 | Ricardo__ | por lamaresh.net |
| 23:07.41 | Naphidia | raid1 i think is what i want |
| 23:07.56 | Naphidia | hmmm... i think i did this wrong |
| 23:08.01 | Naphidia | made my raid partitions |
| 23:08.15 | Naphidia | but wont let me install to the drives... was i only supposed to check the box for one of the drives? |
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| 23:08.49 | o0ze | Naphidia: for RIAD you will need at least 2 drives |
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| 23:09.10 | o0ze | Naphidia: for RAID5 you will need at least 3 |
| 23:09.45 | Naphidia | yeah im gunna go with raid1 |
| 23:10.14 | daemonkeeper | You shouldn't go with RAID 0 unless you know what you're doing. |
| 23:10.19 | Naphidia | it partioned, but says i can't install to the drives |
| 23:10.26 | Naphidia | says they are being used |
| 23:10.40 | Naphidia | so do i only check 1 drive when going through the create MD wizzard thing |
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| 23:10.50 | Ricardo__ | ZykoticK9, 1.1.42 is the last |
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| 23:11.01 | epsilon | Naphidia: find out why the partition is busy |
| 23:11.11 | Naphidia | k |
| 23:11.44 | epsilon | 2x partition of same size -> both as Linux RAID Autodetect -> mdadm |
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| 23:12.05 | epsilon | then check the status with cat /proc/mdstat |
| 23:12.50 | ZykoticK9 | Ricardo__, if you need the "latest" get it direct from upstream then. |
| 23:13.06 | Ricardo__ | hm |
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| 23:14.19 | Naphidia | im a noob... wasnt trying to install it to raid1 |
| 23:14.20 | Naphidia | lol |
| 23:14.28 | Naphidia | it's working now it appears |
| 23:15.20 | o0ze | Naphidia: yea that won't work |
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| 23:15.55 | Naphidia | now if a drive should go bad, does it just rebuild automaticly or do i have to rebuild a raid myself? |
| 23:16.50 | o0ze | Naphidia: its RAID1 ? |
| 23:16.55 | Naphidia | yes |
| 23:16.59 | epsilon | mdadm will monitor and rebuild it by default installation |
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| 23:17.18 | Naphidia | ok so just pull out the hotswapable drive and insert the new one |
| 23:17.22 | epsilon | for details, chec out the mdadm config files |
| 23:17.37 | Naphidia | ok |
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| 23:18.09 | epsilon | in this case, you probably need to create partition and tell mdadm to use which partition manually |
| 23:18.32 | Naphidia | ahh ok |
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| 23:19.09 | epsilon | Naphidia: is it a new installation? |
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| 23:21.49 | Naphidia | yes |
| 23:21.59 | Naphidia | old dell poweredge 1950 |
| 23:22.39 | Naphidia | giving me some error about mounting the swap partition |
| 23:23.03 | epsilon | oh dell server... does it have this DRAC stuff? |
| 23:23.16 | Naphidia | no idea its just off lease |
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| 23:23.30 | Naphidia | bunch of cd's came with it |
| 23:23.36 | Naphidia | but didnt pay much attention to it |
| 23:24.09 | Naphidia | yeah it does have one of those |
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| 23:24.21 | Naphidia | i saw it bootup and ask me to hit some key to setup remotely |
| 23:25.45 | Naphidia | idk how to use any of it though, i got the thing for free |
| 23:25.50 | epsilon | Naphidia: check out osma |
| 23:25.52 | epsilon | https://subtrac.sara.nl/oss/omsa_2_deb |
| 23:25.52 | epsilon | http://linux.dell.com/repo/community/deb/ |
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| 23:27.34 | Naphidia | what is it? I don't know what openmanage is |
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| 23:28.40 | Sx` | Windows > linux |
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| 23:29.28 | nsadmin | does it make sense for a normal linux system to use android's "binder" kernel module in order to implement its flavor of IPC? |
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| 23:32.11 | Naphidia | it looks like something I should be using with this thing o_O |
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| 23:43.18 | Naphidia | man this adds alot of functionality ... |
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| 23:47.14 | Naphidia | bah the disks i have only support commerical installs of win server and redhat enterprize ewww |
| 23:47.15 | little_owl | Hi, I have installed package xorg. I need to run a *minimal* X windows configuration. What other packages should I install? |
| 23:48.41 | streuner | little_owl: install xorg and a window-manager |
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| 23:50.46 | streuner | little_owl: there about 1000 window-managers available in Debian |
| 23:51.05 | little_owl | I tried twm ... |
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| 23:53.26 | Angstrom_ | Know anything about Audacity |
| 23:53.30 | streuner | wmaker was a default wm in Debian, never liked it |
| 23:53.44 | streuner | little_owl: maybe openbox is what you prefer |
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| 23:54.16 | lloowen | Hello all! I'm logged into my debian5 vps as root and there is no 'shutdown' command!!! Can this be so for a root user? |
| 23:54.46 | streuner | Angstrom_: just ask a specific question, its easier for us to help you then |
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| 23:59.11 | rudi_s | lloowen: Do you really want to shutdown a VPS? Better use reboot. (No idea why the command is missing though.) |
| 23:59.17 | Angstrom_ | anyone here |
| 23:59.40 | streuner | !ask |
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| 23:59.48 | little_owl | OK, thanks OpenBox works ... |
