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| 00:05.00 | koskoz | hi guys |
| 00:05.26 | koskoz | the only way for a user to only access/see his /home is to use chroot ? |
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| 00:07.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | koskoz: context? |
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| 00:07.58 | MrOpposite | hmm |
| 00:08.09 | lsmith | aloha .. i am trying to get rid of this warning: dpkg-source: warning: source directory 'symfony2' is not <sourcepackage>-<upstreamversion> 'symfony2-site-joiz-0.0.2' |
| 00:08.15 | MrOpposite | it feels like a bad idea to do this... The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 00:08.15 | MrOpposite | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.15 | MrOpposite | WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed |
| 00:08.15 | MrOpposite | This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! |
| 00:08.15 | MrOpposite | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:08.27 | lsmith | a solution seems to be: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc --source-option=--format='3.0 (native)' |
| 00:08.57 | lsmith | but it seems ubuntu's LTS version of dpkg-buildpackage doesnt support --source-option |
| 00:09.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | lsmith: iirc source format 1 doesn't support multiple hyphens in a package name |
| 00:09.18 | un214 | MrOpposite: something's very wrong |
| 00:09.28 | un214 | you cannot back out of removing dpkg so don't do that |
| 00:09.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | lsmith: you might want to try #debian-mentors on oftc though, they probably have a beter idea then me |
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| 00:09.45 | MrOpposite | oops |
| 00:09.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | lsmith: unless its an ubuntu problem, in which case #ubuntu or #ubuntu-motu are the correct places |
| 00:09.56 | un214 | I agree oops is right |
| 00:10.10 | MrOpposite | forgot to pastebin, sorry |
| 00:10.14 | lsmith | Kamping_Kaiser: k |
| 00:10.37 | un214 | MrOpposite: are you willing to consider using debootstrap to regenerate your system |
| 00:10.53 | MrOpposite | well |
| 00:10.55 | MrOpposite | sure... |
| 00:11.07 | un214 | 1) have a rescue cd |
| 00:11.10 | un214 | 2) boot it |
| 00:11.10 | MrOpposite | or reinstall the firmware my usual way |
| 00:11.14 | MrOpposite | I have no cd... |
| 00:11.16 | MrOpposite | or |
| 00:11.19 | MrOpposite | cd drive |
| 00:11.26 | MrOpposite | or any controll over bootproccess |
| 00:11.27 | un214 | ok that's a problem |
| 00:11.34 | un214 | what kind of machine is this? |
| 00:11.41 | MrOpposite | ReadyNAS DUO |
| 00:12.13 | MrOpposite | hmm |
| 00:12.19 | MrOpposite | that didn't work well |
| 00:12.27 | un214 | yeah |
| 00:12.34 | MrOpposite | apt-get failed when upgrading libc7 |
| 00:12.36 | un214 | stuff like this you gots to be careful with |
| 00:12.37 | MrOpposite | c6* |
| 00:12.47 | MrOpposite | so nothing happened |
| 00:12.53 | lsmith | <Kamping_Kaiser> lsmith: iirc source format 1 doesn't support multiple hyphens in a package name |
| 00:12.59 | MrOpposite | meh, I have a failsafe |
| 00:13.12 | un214 | unfortunately I will not be able to help you on such a device |
| 00:13.15 | lsmith | what do you mean with multiple? multiple consequitive .. or just multiple in general? |
| 00:13.18 | MrOpposite | rebooting the machine with reset-pin pressed |
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| 00:13.36 | MrOpposite | then it reinstalls the firmware and I have another go on upgrading it |
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| 00:13.43 | un214 | oh really |
| 00:13.45 | MrOpposite | yea |
| 00:13.55 | MrOpposite | done it plenty of times when I broke something vital |
| 00:13.55 | un214 | it's architecture is x86? |
| 00:13.57 | MrOpposite | no |
| 00:13.59 | MrOpposite | Sparc |
| 00:14.11 | un214 | got lots of free space? |
| 00:14.16 | MrOpposite | Sortof |
| 00:14.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | lsmith: eg foo-bar-frob. |
| 00:14.20 | MrOpposite | not on root |
| 00:14.35 | MrOpposite | but on /home |
| 00:14.43 | lsmith | k |
| 00:14.47 | un214 | you will need enough free space on root to hold a second copy of system and a staticly linked mv |
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| 00:15.05 | lsmith | Kamping_Kaiser: it does build the packages .. it just complaining while it does |
| 00:15.09 | MrOpposite | hmm |
| 00:15.23 | un214 | since you can back out I'm willing to offer you the procedure |
| 00:15.28 | MrOpposite | ok |
| 00:15.30 | MrOpposite | thank you |
| 00:15.52 | un214 | 1) place static mv into /stand |
| 00:16.02 | frikinz | lsmith: it's a warning, you don't really care |
| 00:16.09 | MrOpposite | quick question |
| 00:16.12 | MrOpposite | static mv? |
| 00:16.12 | un214 | ok |
| 00:16.18 | un214 | yeah, no libraries |
| 00:16.24 | lsmith | frikinz: right .. i would just prefer not to irritate other users of this build script |
| 00:16.29 | un214 | it needs to work in a chroot jail (with nothing else in it) |
| 00:16.35 | MrOpposite | yea |
| 00:16.40 | MrOpposite | so how do I do that? |
| 00:16.49 | MrOpposite | OH |
| 00:16.53 | frikinz | lsmith: ah ok I thought it was a package you were rebuilding for yourself |
| 00:17.00 | MrOpposite | you mean I should move everything into a new folder? |
| 00:17.15 | MrOpposite | hmm |
| 00:17.19 | un214 | the idea is to debootstrap a new folder, move the original dirs out of the way and the new ones in |
| 00:17.29 | MrOpposite | ok |
| 00:17.36 | un214 | trouble is this temproary breaks system libraries |
| 00:17.40 | lsmith | frikinz: no .. its a build script used to generate custom deb packages for Symfony2 php applications |
| 00:17.47 | MrOpposite | oh |
| 00:18.07 | MrOpposite | but debootstrap gives me illegal instruction when i try to chroot |
| 00:18.21 | un214 | you probably debootstrapped an x86 |
| 00:18.24 | MrOpposite | no |
| 00:18.43 | frikinz | lsmith: did you read debian policy howtos? |
| 00:18.51 | MrOpposite | /chroot/bin/bash works fine |
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| 00:19.02 | frikinz | lsmith: like http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html |
| 00:19.02 | un214 | ok |
| 00:19.14 | un214 | but chroot /chroot /bin/bash doesn't |
| 00:19.30 | un214 | did you try mount -o bind /dev /chroot/dev yet? |
| 00:19.34 | lsmith | frikinz: no .. i didnt .. taking over this script from someone else .. |
| 00:19.47 | lsmith | this is all quite new to me |
| 00:20.02 | MrOpposite | root@opposite-nas:/# chroot /chroot /bin/bash |
| 00:20.02 | MrOpposite | Illegal instruction |
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| 00:20.17 | MrOpposite | root@opposite-nas:/# file /chroot/bin/bash |
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| 00:20.34 | MrOpposite | /chroot/bin/bash: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, SPARC, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
| 00:20.51 | un214 | try mount -o bind /dev /chroot/dev |
| 00:20.56 | un214 | then the chroot command |
| 00:21.06 | lsmith | frikinz: anyway .. the person who created the script said we need not worry about it .. |
| 00:21.07 | MrOpposite | same error |
| 00:21.25 | lsmith | but she is on debian .. yet our hoster is on ubuntu server lts |
| 00:21.33 | un214 | do you have an ldd? |
| 00:21.35 | lsmith | and so her hack to get rid of the warning isnt working there |
| 00:21.36 | frikinz | lsmith: I ported dozens of packages to arm and got always this error |
| 00:21.38 | MrOpposite | ldd? |
| 00:21.56 | MrOpposite | !ldd |
| 00:21.56 | un214 | checks libraries |
| 00:22.00 | lsmith | frikinz: so i guess we just document that its an "ok" error |
| 00:22.09 | MrOpposite | Don't know |
| 00:22.21 | MrOpposite | hmm |
| 00:22.27 | MrOpposite | root@opposite-nas:/# ldd |
| 00:22.27 | MrOpposite | ldd: missing file arguments |
| 00:22.31 | MrOpposite | obviosly |
| 00:22.37 | un214 | ok |
| 00:23.08 | koskoz | Kamping_Kaiser : context (sry, took my some time to answer) : I don't want my other user to see anything else than their own files |
| 00:23.09 | un214 | the probem is in one of the libraries |
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| 00:23.15 | MrOpposite | ok |
| 00:23.32 | un214 | now the idea is to trace the libraries that bash depends on and try to find out which one is broken |
| 00:23.43 | un214 | ldd /chroot/bin/bash will tell you which ones it uses |
| 00:23.57 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 00:24.04 | frikinz | lsmith: name-version. version has to be [epoch:]upstream_version[-debian_revision] |
| 00:24.11 | MrOpposite | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:24.17 | MrOpposite | darn |
| 00:24.37 | MrOpposite | tried to notice you so it wouldn't bloat the channel |
| 00:24.45 | un214 | now here is where the static mv can come in handy |
| 00:24.49 | MrOpposite | Oh |
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| 00:25.25 | un214 | but you don't have one do you |
| 00:25.32 | MrOpposite | no |
| 00:25.46 | MrOpposite | I didn't know what I was supposed to do |
| 00:25.47 | un214 | try ldd /sbin/sln |
| 00:26.03 | MrOpposite | root@opposite-nas:/chroot/bin# ldd /sbin/sln |
| 00:26.03 | MrOpposite | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.10 | un214 | good |
| 00:26.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | koskoz: chroots are the most common way of doing that |
| 00:26.20 | un214 | sln will have to do |
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| 00:26.44 | un214 | try sln /t1 /t2 |
| 00:26.55 | un214 | followed by ls -ld t1 t2 |
| 00:26.58 | MrOpposite | root@opposite-nas:/chroot/bin# sln /t1 /t2 |
| 00:26.58 | MrOpposite | ln: No such file or directory |
| 00:27.28 | un214 | *blink* |
| 00:27.32 | un214 | you did run sln not ln right |
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| 00:27.44 | MrOpposite | yes |
| 00:27.54 | MrOpposite | you saw the my command... |
| 00:28.00 | un214 | can you run file /sbin/sln |
| 00:28.16 | MrOpposite | root@opposite-nas:/# file /sbin/sln |
| 00:28.16 | MrOpposite | /sbin/sln: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, SPARC, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, statically linked, stripped |
| 00:28.37 | un214 | ok good |
| 00:28.47 | un214 | we might be able to get this working |
| 00:28.57 | un214 | no mv but we can play games |
| 00:29.05 | MrOpposite | when I touched /t1 |
| 00:29.11 | MrOpposite | the sln thing worked |
| 00:29.14 | MrOpposite | ls |
| 00:29.15 | un214 | good |
| 00:29.25 | un214 | now do ls -l /t1 /t2 |
| 00:29.37 | MrOpposite | root@opposite-nas:/# ls -l t1 t2 |
| 00:29.37 | MrOpposite | -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 0 2011-01-02 01:28 t1 |
| 00:29.37 | MrOpposite | -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 0 2011-01-02 01:28 t2 |
| 00:30.02 | un214 | ok that's why this is not the usual sln |
| 00:30.12 | jhutchins_lt | MrOpposite: For some reason you haven't tripped the bot yet, but use a pastebin. |
| 00:30.16 | jhutchins_lt | !paste |
| 00:30.16 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 00:30.30 | MrOpposite | oh |
| 00:30.30 | MrOpposite | ok |
| 00:30.48 | un214 | I have some serious trouble reading pastebin |
| 00:30.57 | MrOpposite | un214 query? |
| 00:31.20 | un214 | prefixing each line with /msg un214 would work better |
| 00:31.31 | MrOpposite | ok |
| 00:31.40 | jhutchins_lt | un214: Which one? They all look a little different, and you should be able to control them with your browser. |
| 00:31.58 | un214 | pastebin is broken with accessability settings loaded |
| 00:32.19 | MrOpposite | ok |
| 00:32.39 | jhutchins_lt | un214: There are so many different pastebins though. |
| 00:33.31 | un214 | opening a /msg works so well that there's no point fiddling with pastebin |
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| 00:34.14 | MrOpposite | Anyhow, what's wrong with my sln? |
| 00:34.18 | un214 | nothing |
| 00:34.26 | un214 | it's ln renamed, not what sln usually is |
| 00:34.32 | un214 | but it's staticly linked so it will do |
| 00:34.45 | MrOpposite | well |
| 00:35.00 | MrOpposite | sln and ln gives diffrent output... |
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| 00:35.38 | un214 | try this sequence: mkdir /orig ; mv /lib /orig ; sln -s /chroot/lib /lib ; /chroot/bin/ls |
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| 00:36.56 | un214 | ok sln /chroot/lib /lib |
| 00:37.10 | MrOpposite | ln: Operation not permitted |
| 00:37.13 | un214 | ouch |
| 00:37.27 | un214 | this sln is broken |
| 00:37.31 | MrOpposite | hmm |
| 00:37.45 | MrOpposite | Does it help if I know wich one is broken? |
| 00:37.48 | MrOpposite | of the libs that is? |
| 00:37.59 | un214 | unfortunately the answer to that is no |
| 00:38.02 | MrOpposite | ok |
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| 00:38.17 | un214 | and right now you have a seriously broken system (no /lib) |
| 00:38.40 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 00:38.58 | un214 | yes I know uhm |
| 00:39.02 | MrOpposite | ok |
| 00:39.07 | MrOpposite | reinstall firmware? |
| 00:39.12 | un214 | yup |
| 00:39.14 | MrOpposite | ok |
| 00:39.43 | un214 | you're going to have to obtain a cross compiler for this arch and static link mv or a real sln for this to work |
| 00:39.48 | un214 | your sln can only make hard links |
| 00:39.56 | MrOpposite | ookay |
| 00:40.05 | MrOpposite | this is awkward |
| 00:40.11 | MrOpposite | the powerbutton dosen't work |
| 00:40.41 | MrOpposite | kill power? |
| 00:40.47 | un214 | yes |
| 00:41.07 | jhutchins_lt | MrOpposite: Remember most power buttons have to be held down for what it thinks is ten seconds... |
| 00:41.20 | un214 | embedded device |
| 00:41.24 | un214 | won't follow PC rules |
| 00:41.33 | MrOpposite | Ok, now reinstall is inited |
| 00:41.36 | MrOpposite | now we wait... |
| 00:42.03 | un214 | now you go get a SPARC cross compiler |
| 00:42.15 | MrOpposite | why crosscompiler? |
| 00:42.26 | un214 | because your host system isn't SPARC |
| 00:42.30 | MrOpposite | I usually compile on the NAS... |
| 00:42.34 | un214 | oh really |
| 00:42.37 | MrOpposite | yea... |
| 00:42.39 | un214 | ok that makes it easier |
| 00:42.42 | MrOpposite | is lazy |
| 00:43.00 | un214 | I thought for sure the device didn't have a big enough / for devtools |
| 00:43.05 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 00:43.24 | MrOpposite | It uses my harddrives for root |
| 00:43.33 | un214 | oh yeah huh |
| 00:43.45 | MrOpposite | and has a small backup flash for firmware reinstall |
| 00:43.55 | MrOpposite | (like I am doing now) |
| 00:44.11 | MrOpposite | Thus I am not really carefull... |
| 00:44.28 | MrOpposite | "Wanna remove dpkg?" "Sure, why not?" |
| 00:44.36 | un214 | lol |
| 00:44.57 | MrOpposite | takes some time to reinstall tho |
| 00:45.21 | MrOpposite | I will be rather angry if the firmware reinstall doesn't restore /lib... |
| 00:45.22 | un214 | what do you say when we get this really working we tar up the whole thing so next time a reinstall doesn't take so may steps |
| 00:45.33 | MrOpposite | sure |
| 00:45.34 | MrOpposite | Well |
| 00:45.37 | un214 | MrOpposite: so would I |
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| 00:45.52 | MrOpposite | I need to do something bad |
| 00:45.59 | MrOpposite | factory restore |
| 00:46.07 | MrOpposite | which would wipe out everything |
| 00:46.23 | un214 | so firmware restore didn't |
| 00:46.26 | MrOpposite | uhw |
| 00:46.27 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 00:46.29 | MrOpposite | no |
| 00:46.32 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 00:46.34 | MrOpposite | well |
| 00:46.38 | MrOpposite | still blinking |
| 00:46.43 | MrOpposite | which means working |
| 00:46.50 | MrOpposite | so not sure |
| 00:46.53 | un214 | better let it finish |
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| 00:47.08 | MrOpposite | the "I need to do something bad" was realy "else I need to do something bad" |
| 00:47.11 | MrOpposite | I missed a word |
| 00:47.16 | MrOpposite | really* |
| 00:48.00 | MrOpposite | Oh how suprising |
| 00:48.06 | MrOpposite | my ssh-tunnel broke... |
| 00:48.46 | MrOpposite | btw, all my friends think I am crazy... |
| 00:48.50 | MrOpposite | Compiling on the NAS |
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| 00:49.02 | un214 | actually I don't |
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| 00:49.14 | un214 | it beats cross-compiling |
| 00:49.15 | MrOpposite | Thanks, someone on MY side for once |
| 00:50.40 | MrOpposite | I can't check the status... |
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| 00:51.00 | MrOpposite | The software that do that is broken for some reason |
| 00:51.38 | darkkrai | does debian have support for newer 3d hardware such as the ati radeon mobility 5870 |
| 00:51.40 | darkkrai | ? |
| 00:52.03 | phorce1_home | installed a new kernel on the machine sitting on his desk at work and forgot to make sure all the external services were firing before coming home <sigh> no ssh for some reason |
| 00:52.04 | un214 | probably with a broken /lib nothing works until restore finishes |
| 00:52.19 | MrOpposite | yea |
| 00:52.35 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 00:52.43 | MrOpposite | yay |
| 00:52.57 | MrOpposite | the uninstall script of a programm is broken... |
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| 00:53.51 | jelly-home | darkkrai: out of the box? unlikely |
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| 00:54.07 | un214 | did the box come back? |
| 00:54.12 | MrOpposite | still loading |
| 00:54.16 | MrOpposite | this takes a while... |
| 00:54.23 | darkkrai | hm |
| 00:54.26 | MrOpposite | (not very powerfull cpu) |
| 00:54.27 | darkkrai | I dont mean out of the box |
| 00:54.36 | darkkrai | just, is it available/possible? |
| 00:54.40 | jelly-home | darkkrai: can fglrx be installed? yes. |
| 00:55.14 | jelly-home | darkkrai: everything is possible if it's a software issue, the only question is how hard it is |
| 00:55.27 | darkkrai | well, fedora isnt getting support any time soon |
| 00:55.37 | jelly-home | that doesn' |
| 00:55.37 | MrOpposite | ok |
| 00:55.41 | MrOpposite | stopped blinking |
| 00:55.43 | darkkrai | its what I'm using now |
| 00:55.52 | jelly-home | darkkrai: you can still install it even there |
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| 00:56.02 | darkkrai | it doesn't support my chip |
| 00:56.07 | darkkrai | i can install it |
| 00:56.13 | darkkrai | but I won't benefit from it |
| 00:56.20 | darkkrai | as its not made for my chip |
| 00:56.20 | MrOpposite | root@opposite-nas:~# ls |
| 00:56.20 | MrOpposite | readlink |
| 00:56.27 | MrOpposite | un214 looks like lib is back |
| 00:56.34 | jelly-home | darkkrai: wait, the official ati driver doesn't support your ati chip? |
| 00:56.36 | un214 | good |
| 00:56.46 | MrOpposite | great fallback ^^ |
| 00:57.07 | darkkrai | it does |
| 00:57.16 | darkkrai | but fedora doesn't |
| 00:57.38 | jelly-home | darkkrai: then it can be made to work of fedora as well, it just might be a bit messy |
| 00:57.43 | darkkrai | fedora's version of the driver isn't |
| 00:57.43 | cdynamics | welp, I completly screwed it uo |
| 00:57.48 | cdynamics | oh well. |
| 00:57.55 | MrOpposite | un214 what should I compile? |
| 00:57.58 | darkkrai | i'm looking for something that I can just install the package for >.> |
| 00:58.20 | jelly-home | darkkrai: it's not something to switch distros for, is what I'm hinting at |
| 00:58.32 | darkkrai | I see |
| 00:58.38 | un214 | build that with gcc -static |
| 00:59.43 | MrOpposite | extension? |
| 00:59.47 | un214 | .c |
| 01:00.01 | un214 | generally I'd call this binary mv or rename |
| 01:00.22 | MrOpposite | Error, pasted in query |
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| 01:13.11 | pom | My system freezes from time to time and I suspect it may have something to do with MD-arrays. What happens is system becomes completetely unresponsive and every service running on it becomes inaccessible. Only way I have been able to recover is by a cold reboot. Where in the logs might I be able to get clues to what causes this? |
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| 01:17.41 | pom | Hmm, I think this is the culprit: http://debian.pastebin.com/HE8TRqAh |
| 01:18.30 | pom | Because I can hear disks working non-stop as the machine stops responding. |
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| 01:21.08 | dserban | I list /srv/ as an export point, under the same server system, I have hard drives mounted under /srv/ such as vol-1, vol-2 ad-nauseum. I simply want to mount /srv/ via nfs on another machine. The problem is that it mounts /srv/ from the server successfully and then it simply sits empty... /srv/vol-1 exists but nothing under that tree is there. What option have I messed up on the nfs server? I don't ever remember having this proble |
| 01:21.08 | dserban | m. |
| 01:22.03 | jdsharp | Does anyone have a Rosevill RSV-S5 External SATA controller working? (Uses the port-multiplier) (here's the product) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132015&cm_re=rsv-s5-_-16-132-015-_-Product |
| 01:22.14 | jdsharp | I get hard resets on all the links upon boot and init |
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| 01:30.34 | usn | hi folks - I upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze tonight. But cpuinfo shows only one CPU out of two cores |
| 01:30.40 | usn | uname -a: Linux poseidon 2.6.32-5-686-bigmem #1 SMP Fri Dec 10 16:59:53 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:30.56 | usn | What can I do? |
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| 01:33.26 | Bop | usn, what cpu do u have ? |
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| 01:40.56 | MrOpposite | so |
| 01:41.16 | MrOpposite | Anyone else up for a challange of upgrading a SPARC based NAS |
| 01:41.36 | MrOpposite | I have worn out 2 helpers already |
| 01:41.48 | MrOpposite | And I even forgot to say thank you to the later |
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| 01:43.09 | jelly-home | worn out, eh? How much did you pay'em per hour? |
| 01:43.36 | MrOpposite | nothing... |
| 01:43.44 | qq- | yet ... |
| 01:43.44 | MrOpposite | Well |
| 01:43.53 | MrOpposite | It's tricky |
| 01:44.15 | MrOpposite | We discovered something about needing to recompile libc6.... or something |
| 01:44.22 | ziroux | http://tshirthell.vo.llnwd.net/e1/shirts/products/a974/a974_bm.gif |
| 01:44.48 | MrOpposite | <un214> the copy of libc6 on your NAS was compiled without threads |
| 01:45.09 | MrOpposite | which gives "illegal instruction" now |
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| 01:45.45 | jelly-home | I think I'd have to respectfully decline your offer then |
| 01:45.51 | MrOpposite | lol |
| 01:46.05 | MrOpposite | I am currently setting up a chroot enviroment, for some reason |
| 01:46.40 | MrOpposite | uhm |
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| 01:47.00 | MrOpposite | but jelly-home could you tell me where to get libc6 source? |
| 01:47.18 | qq- | !source |
| 01:47.18 | dpkg | As an overview: to work with Debian source packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a location with free space; download the source package with <apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use <dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details, also ask me about <package recompile> <backport> <nmg> <policy> <source package> |
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| 01:48.24 | jelly-home | MrOpposite: sorry, I'm not touching your issue with a virtual ten fool pole |
| 01:49.17 | MrOpposite | lol why that reaction? |
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| 01:49.54 | babilen | MrOpposite: You might want to write an email to one of the mailing lists (debian-user or debian-sparc) or wait a while for someone who is willing to work with you on your problem. |
| 01:50.02 | MrOpposite | yea |
| 01:50.26 | MrOpposite | I was just curious about the "virtual ten fool pole" reaction |
| 01:51.04 | babilen | jelly prefers real ten foot poles IIRC |
| 01:51.26 | MrOpposite | lol |
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| 01:51.48 | jelly-home | it smells like a complicated issue, or one that became complicated during the previous tries to solve it |
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| 01:52.16 | MrOpposite | It probably is very complicated :P |
| 01:52.24 | MrOpposite | oh well |
| 01:52.34 | MrOpposite | Hmm |
| 01:52.35 | babilen | yes, and i for once am tired and would prefer to read an email than "listening" to a long story here on irc :) |
| 01:52.39 | ribatejoluso | hi, is the user settings tool UI under system only present in ubuntu? |
| 01:52.43 | jelly-home | in particular "needing to rebuild glibc" seems quite silly |
| 01:53.09 | MrOpposite | Uhm |
| 01:53.22 | MrOpposite | could someone tell me how to do LFS then? |
| 01:53.47 | MrOpposite | Or is that another "That seems overly complicated" story? |
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| 01:54.00 | MrOpposite | !lsf |
| 01:54.15 | jelly-home | !sparc |
| 01:54.15 | dpkg | [sparc] the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded systems usually run Solaris. For more information about SPARC, see http://www.sparc.org/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARC . To install Debian, ask me about <install guide> and see http://wiki.debian.org/PortsSparc . For help with Debian on SPARC, join #debian-sparc on irc.oftc.net. |
| 01:54.36 | homie | who does maintain the hdf5-mpi-dev and libhdf5-openmpi-dev and mpi-dev packages ? |
| 01:54.50 | babilen | MrOpposite: LFS has a website and a lot of documentation, you might want to check their website. |
| 01:55.22 | MrOpposite | Saw that now |
| 01:55.28 | homie | i got multiple /usr/include dirs for them |
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| 01:56.05 | homie | /usr/include/mpi /usr/include/openmpi, /usr/include/mpi/openmpi, /usr/include/openmpi/openmpi... |
| 01:56.47 | jelly-home | homie: http://packages.debian.org/packagename will tell you, click on a Debian release, say, sid, then click on Developer Information (PTS) |
| 01:57.27 | babilen | homie: "/msg judd maint libhdf5-mpi-dev" |
| 01:57.56 | homie | i think i have to tell them either put everythin in one dir like /usr/include/mpi and then /usr/include/mpi/openmpi/ or it gets messy with the headers, and octave is actually affected here thereby..... |
| 01:58.39 | jelly-home | homie: file bug reports and suggests an approach that would actually make the packages useful |
| 01:58.40 | babilen | good night all, until the morrow. o/ |
| 01:59.30 | MrOpposite | OH |
| 01:59.43 | MrOpposite | Now I understand why libc6 was pinned! |
| 02:00.49 | jelly-home | MrOpposite: some hardware platforms for sparc have been lost in etch and lenny as well; in particular, I think lenny doesn't support any sparc32 machine any more |
| 02:01.09 | MrOpposite | nope, I noticed... |
| 02:01.17 | MrOpposite | That's why I'm trying etch now |
| 02:01.20 | jelly-home | MrOpposite: this is a reflection of the vanilla kernel not supporting it either |
| 02:01.31 | MrOpposite | uhm uh |
| 02:01.48 | jelly-home | you might want to run something other than Linux |
| 02:01.58 | MrOpposite | hmm |
| 02:02.07 | MrOpposite | that's a big "how?" for me... |
| 02:02.17 | MrOpposite | I have almost no controll over boot-process |
| 02:03.08 | jelly-home | a Sun machine would have a serial console and a serial Break signal would put it into OpenPROM interpreter |
| 02:03.23 | MrOpposite | this machine is from Netgear |
| 02:03.36 | MrOpposite | but hmm |
| 02:03.43 | MrOpposite | that might not be what you meant |
| 02:03.50 | MrOpposite | serial console? |
| 02:03.58 | jelly-home | right |
| 02:04.37 | MrOpposite | Anyhow, if it's a sun machine... It's bad that it doesn't run jvm... |
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| 02:06.17 | jelly-home | Sun, while it had custody of Java, never made jvm builds for linux-sparc. solaris-sparc, yes; linux-x86, yes. |
| 02:06.40 | MrOpposite | oh |
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| 02:12.47 | jelly-home | (someone else did make them at one point) |
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| 02:13.31 | megana | what is debian's default run level? |
| 02:13.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | 5 |
| 02:13.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | predicts megana is a redhat user |
| 02:13.59 | jelly-home | megana: 2, /msg dpkg runlevel |
| 02:14.11 | jelly-home | Kamping_Kaiser: bzzt. |
| 02:14.15 | megana | it says N 2 |
| 02:14.32 | jelly-home | the latter value is current |
| 02:14.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | jelly-home: oops |
| 02:14.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | jelly-home: prediction stands :) |
| 02:14.53 | jelly-home | suspects Kamping_Kaiser was a redhat user |
| 02:15.25 | megana | why all the red hat suspicions? |
| 02:15.41 | jelly-home | because he said 5 <g> |
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| 02:16.03 | megana | oh |
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| 02:27.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | jelly-home: at work, yeah. |
| 02:27.18 | darkkrai | how do I install the ati catalyst driver? |
| 02:27.25 | MrOpposite | horray |
| 02:27.33 | MrOpposite | I broke my system again -.-" |
| 02:27.38 | MrOpposite | now everything segfaults |
| 02:27.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell darkkrai about ati |
| 02:27.58 | MrOpposite | root@opposite-nas:/lib# ls |
| 02:27.58 | MrOpposite | Segmentation fault |
| 02:28.03 | MrOpposite | isn't it beautiful |
| 02:28.30 | [Sanyi] | :)))) |
| 02:29.04 | MrOpposite | well |
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| 02:29.31 | MrOpposite | that's what you get when someone tells "Here is random libc6 that works partially" and you install it |
| 02:31.20 | MrOpposite | horray |
| 02:31.29 | MrOpposite | No reaction from the button |
| 02:31.31 | jelly-home | find a statically linked shell with lots of stuff embedded, like busybox or sash |
| 02:31.33 | MrOpposite | powerbutton* |
| 02:31.47 | MrOpposite | nor does reboot/shutdown work |
| 02:33.54 | JPT | mhh |
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| 02:34.08 | JPT | as long as wget and chmod work... |
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| 02:34.35 | jelly-home | or echo and * |
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| 02:35.35 | benedikt | Is there a way to manually control the fan speed on a laptop? (acpi and dell) |
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| 02:38.16 | un214 | ??svn |
| 02:38.18 | un214 | !svn |
| 02:38.18 | dpkg | it has been said that subversion is a compelling replacement for <CVS>: adds atomic commits, file renaming/copying and a very tight network protocol. Read "Version Control with Subversion" online at http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ . http://subversion.tigris.org/ #svn on irc.freenode.net. |
| 02:38.20 | Surf | I must chown "user" "target" everytime I want to edit a file using SCP? can't seem to get permission without. |
| 02:38.31 | un214 | apt-get install svn doesn't work ?? |
| 02:38.39 | jelly-home | un214: "subversion" |
| 02:38.59 | un214 | presto |
| 02:39.14 | benedikt | un214: apt-cache search svn should give you the right package. it's excellt when you don't quiete know what the package is called |
| 02:39.26 | Tramp | benedikt: I do it by manipulating stuff under /sys/class/thermal/ - not a dell though, but acpi |
| 02:39.56 | un214 | ah |
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| 02:40.50 | benedikt | Tramp: thanks. it exists on my system, what files do you manipulate to control the fan speed? |
| 02:41.07 | MrOpposite | hey un214 I forgot to say Thanks earlier |
| 02:41.23 | MrOpposite | so Thanks a bunch |
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| 02:42.15 | Tramp | benedikt: coolingdevice${i}/cur_state - the $i stands for 5 different possible speeds (not different fans!), and the state is 0/1 |
| 02:42.35 | benedikt | that explains why nothign happened when i echoed 10 in there :) |
| 02:42.44 | un214 | welcome, MrOpposite |
| 02:43.01 | MrOpposite | btw, I actually made something diffrent |
| 02:43.04 | Tramp | benedikt: i.e. I write "0" to all of them to make sure the fan's turned off |
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| 02:43.13 | MrOpposite | I successfully destroyed the /lib again |
| 02:43.27 | nsadmin | yay! |
| 02:43.32 | nsadmin | umm, what? |
| 02:43.32 | MrOpposite | and made it so that pretty much everything gives me Segmentation Fault |
| 02:43.36 | Tramp | benedikt: or "1" to coolingdevice3/cur_state to switch to full speed (it's 4, not 5 different possibilities) |
| 02:45.14 | nsadmin | MrOpposite, again? do you know what you want to do to restore it? |
| 02:45.22 | MrOpposite | yes... |
| 02:45.24 | nsadmin | or were you just going to reinstall? |
| 02:45.34 | nsadmin | oh ok... carry on :) |
| 02:45.37 | MrOpposite | this isn't the first time I accidently destroyed something very vital |
| 02:45.52 | un214 | the version of ld-linux.so.2 from repros on his system crashes |
| 02:46.02 | un214 | he's trying to figure a way around it |
| 02:46.09 | MrOpposite | I found a new libc6 |
| 02:46.15 | MrOpposite | which gives segfaulc |
| 02:46.17 | MrOpposite | fault* |
| 02:46.25 | nsadmin | oh so you upgraded libc? |
| 02:46.32 | MrOpposite | yea or well |
| 02:46.32 | nsadmin | that would do it |
| 02:46.34 | nsadmin | every time |
| 02:46.45 | MrOpposite | the upgrade to libc caused segfault |
| 02:46.46 | un214 | a silly game would be to have /lib-orig and /lib-new |
| 02:46.55 | un214 | and symlinks to each with varying names |
| 02:47.15 | un214 | and use /binarymv to switch links to back out of drastic mistakes |
| 02:47.27 | MrOpposite | hmm |
| 02:47.27 | MrOpposite | true |
| 02:47.36 | un214 | or just have a /lib-backup and use /binarymv to move /lib out of the way and /lib-backup in |
| 02:47.49 | MrOpposite | true |
| 02:47.54 | un214 | *nix gives incredible power if you use your brain |
| 02:48.01 | MrOpposite | yeap |
| 02:48.16 | MrOpposite | btw debootstrap sarge failed |
| 02:48.21 | MrOpposite | same error as etch |
| 02:48.57 | un214 | they've got a custom-compiled libc |
| 02:48.58 | MrOpposite | here's the libc that gave segfault http://www.readynas.com/packages/experimental/libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13etch10_sparc.deb |
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| 02:49.05 | ion_ | look I do have some informaton that must be saved before I do reformat my hard drive so how do I do it ? |
| 02:49.17 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 02:49.18 | MrOpposite | wrong ling |
| 02:49.19 | ion_ | using another linux ... |
| 02:49.21 | MrOpposite | link* |
| 02:49.24 | MrOpposite | http://www.readynas.com/packages/experimental/libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13etch10_sparc.deb << there |
| 02:49.28 | ion_ | like a live CD for instance. |
| 02:49.28 | MrOpposite | no |
| 02:49.32 | MrOpposite | http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=22459&hilit=readynas+DUO+etch&start=15#p145546 << there |
| 02:49.43 | MrOpposite | stupid copy not working... |
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| 02:50.52 | ion_ | anyone can help out, please ... |
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| 02:52.47 | benedikt | Tramp: no effect on my system :( |
| 02:53.45 | ion_ | how to I recover my files ...before I format my HD ? |
| 02:53.52 | ion_ | please |
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| 02:54.15 | benedikt | recover files you have deleted or preserve files so you don't delete them when you format? |
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| 02:58.15 | MrOpposite | btw un214 LSF, would even that work on my NAS? |
| 02:59.05 | Surf | Do I have to chown "user" "target" everytime I want to edit a file using SCP? can't seem to get permission without. |
| 02:59.38 | un214 | the technique should work |
| 02:59.51 | MrOpposite | hmm |
| 03:00.00 | MrOpposite | horray... reading a book :P |
| 03:00.05 | MrOpposite | 4 AM |
| 03:00.37 | [Sanyi] | :D |
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| 03:06.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | Surf: chown? |
| 03:07.06 | MrOpposite | but my thought is LFS, via ssh? |
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| 03:07.13 | Surf | yes. to change owner. |
| 03:07.13 | MrOpposite | does that work at all? |
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| 03:09.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | Surf: i'm really sure what you're trying to convey |
| 03:10.58 | fonzi | i cannot unzip a .zip file online if i choose 'gunzip' as the app for the browser. i can unzip a .zip file with 'unzip' in command line but 'unzip' cannot be specified as an app in the browser. how to deal with this? |
| 03:11.22 | ion_ | how can I recover my files before I reinstall debian I know if I type sudo -i using a live CD ( linux ) I can do it but after that I do know the rest of the procedure ...anyone can help.... |
| 03:12.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | fonzi: use file-roller |
| 03:12.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | ion_: how did you back them up? |
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| 03:13.03 | fonzi | Kamping_Kaiser: i can specify file-roller as a browser app? |
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| 03:13.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | fonzi: as a preferred way of handling the zip mimetype? yes |
| 03:14.23 | Sia- | i dont know maybe my afp and netatalk make me crazy to noght |
| 03:14.28 | Sia- | night* |
| 03:14.35 | Surf | Kamping_Kaiser: I'm currently logged into SCP with user (not root) and I won't get permission to do anything, even though permissions are set to rwxrwxrwx. |
| 03:14.38 | Sia- | i'm done |
| 03:15.23 | Surf | Kamping_Kaiser: But whenever I change owner from "root" to "user" (in my case: Daniel) It works.. |
| 03:15.25 | Sia- | all the setups is correct but i can't to my linux machine with AFP from mac, log file said connection refused !! |
| 03:16.23 | nsadmin | what machine is the afp server running on? |
| 03:16.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | Surf: what are you trying to do with teh file? |
| 03:16.54 | Sia- | that is my log file http://paste.debian.net/103604/ |
| 03:17.09 | Surf | Kamping_Kaiser: I'm trying to create a delete / create a directory |
| 03:17.29 | Surf | delete / make new directory* |
| 03:18.43 | rubin110 | Is there anything like ntop, but just a cli interface? |
| 03:18.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | Surf: check the permissions on its parent directory |
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| 03:19.24 | fonzi | Kamping_Kaiser: thks. i just found out that 'unzip' works on the browser, and the unzipped files go to Documents rather than the Downloads folder, which I was expecting. Unfortunately, the system gives no indication of the destination of the unzipped files. |
| 03:19.33 | Surf | Kamping_Kaiser: The permissions on the file i'm trying to delete is set to rwxrwxrwx. |
| 03:20.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | Surf: sure, so you can change the contents however you like. to be able to delete it you need to be able to write to its parent directory |
| 03:21.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | fonzi: its not expecting unzip to work in that way - i assume that means the browsers working directory is your docs directory |
| 03:21.01 | un214 | yeah otherwise some luser could do rmdir /tmp and break everything |
| 03:21.13 | Surf | Kamping_Kaiser: the direcory (which the file is in) is set to rwxr-xr-x |
| 03:21.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | Surf: do you own the directory? |
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| 03:22.29 | Surf | Kamping_Kaiser: owner is set to root. I'm currently logged in as user, not root |
| 03:22.58 | fonzi | Kamping_Kaiser: I will have to check on that. thks again. |
| 03:22.59 | Surf | ah, dang. |
| 03:23.08 | Surf | I think i see why now |
| 03:23.12 | [Yatta] | evening all.... |
| 03:23.20 | karlpinc | Surf: The wiki has a good page. |
| 03:23.22 | karlpinc | !permissions |
| 03:23.22 | dpkg | For information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions', http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions and http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html . For further information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod and follow the setuid and setgid links within. See also <ssh permissions>, <qotd232>. http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
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| 03:26.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | [Yatta]: its a perl script - open it up and find out :) |
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| 03:27.33 | Surf | how come it's not possible to log into SCP with root account? |
| 03:27.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | security |
| 03:28.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | (thats my guess anyway) |
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| 03:29.02 | Surf | ok. i'll just change the owner from root to user on all the directories. problem solved. |
| 03:29.30 | Surf | unless you have a better idea |
| 03:29.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | what are you trying to do? |
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| 03:38.02 | caiosba | hi, does anyone here could successfully run virtualbox-ose in Debian Squeeze 2.6.32-5? I can't get it working |
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| 03:41.25 | ilpa | I'm trying to install a new driver for my b43/wl chipset but need to blacklist wl. I was about to do so when I read 'KernelModuleBlacklisting' on the debian site that doing so via /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf would not do the job. I just want to confirm.. |
| 03:41.58 | ilpa | that this: /etc/modprobe.d/wl.conf' containing 'blacklist wl' within it, will indeed do the job. |
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| 03:42.58 | ilpa | this must seem like such a stupid question.. sorry. |
| 03:44.56 | ilpa | I ask because of a warning that if not properly blacklisted, my attempt at installing a new driver could render my wireless useless. |
| 03:45.04 | dvs | !confuse ilpa |
| 03:45.04 | dpkg | Yes, where is our gouda tomorrow, ilpa? Trousers of the Dictatorship of Tibet with extra anchovies. |
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| 03:50.48 | babilen | ilpa: Yes, that'll work. You might want to read "man 5 modprobe.conf" |
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| 03:51.17 | ilpa | thank you babilen |
| 03:53.44 | nsadmin | is there still modconf? |
| 03:54.01 | nsadmin | , versions modconf |
| 03:54.03 | judd | Package modconf on i386 -- etch: 0.3.1; lenny: 0.3.9; sid: 0.3.11; squeeze: 0.3.11 |
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| 04:01.54 | homie | which package does drkonqui belong to ? |
| 04:02.28 | karlpinc | !tell homie about apt-file |
| 04:02.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | or dpkg -S, if its already installed |
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| 04:04.05 | karlpinc | Kamping_Kaiser: (Strangely, apt-file seems faster.) |
| 04:05.30 | homie | it should have been installed but strangely kaffeine is crashing and i found via strace that drkonqui is missing too... |
| 04:07.20 | homie | wtf does it use smb ? |
| 04:08.58 | homie | http://pastie.org/1422572 |
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| 04:09.14 | darkkrai | how do I generate a new initrd? |
| 04:10.43 | ion_ | Kamping_kaiser: what you mean ? |
| 04:11.29 | karlpinc | darkkrai: There's several ways. What are you trying to do? |
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| 04:12.01 | karlpinc | darkkrai: You can re-install the kernel. You can run update-initramfs. You can run mkinitramfs. |
| 04:13.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | ion_: ? |
| 04:13.43 | ion_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.14 | darkkrai | I blacklisted a module |
| 04:14.25 | darkkrai | so I need to generate a new one |
| 04:15.06 | ion_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.22 | ion_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.33 | karlpinc | darkkrai: The most painless is probably to re-install the kernel you're already running. (You may have to tell it to "force" or something, because you're already running it. I forget.) |
| 04:15.53 | darkkrai | update-initramfs -u ? |
| 04:16.08 | karlpinc | darkkrai: Sounds good. I've not read the man page of late. |
| 04:16.16 | darkkrai | i'm going to try a reboot |
| 04:16.19 | darkkrai | brb |
| 04:16.35 | karlpinc | darkkrai: I was thinking something like aptitude install. Just because everyody know that one. |
| 04:16.55 | darkkrai | hm |
| 04:16.59 | darkkrai | let me try this first |
| 04:17.16 | karlpinc | darkkrai: I think you're doing the "elegant" approach. |
| 04:17.28 | darkkrai | lol |
| 04:17.36 | darkkrai | I just want to blacklist radeon >.> |
| 04:17.41 | darkkrai | i'll brb |
| 04:18.13 | babilen | There is no need to reinstall a package just to trigger execution of its scripts, which will (most likely) just call update-initramfs as well |
| 04:19.30 | karlpinc | babilen: Right. But I don't know offhand just what needs to be triggered. (although it sounds like he got it right.) |
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| 04:30.32 | andares | hey, I have this program I'm trying to run that insists it can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0, despite it being in /usr/lib.. |
| 04:30.39 | andares | what should I do? |
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| 04:31.04 | andares | oh, actually. I need the 32-bit version of that. what should I do? |
| 04:37.16 | Rusty1 | andares: what does apt-cache policy ia32-libs, in a terminal, return? |
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| 04:40.05 | MrOpposite | how bizzare |
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| 04:40.23 | MrOpposite | what do you guys accosiate "rm -rf /*" with? |
| 04:41.21 | zvrk | MrOpposite, wipe off HD |
| 04:41.46 | MrOpposite | yea, I just found a situation where it's usefull |
| 04:42.20 | zvrk | MrOpposite, like? |
| 04:42.45 | MrOpposite | wiping leftover-files that keeps you from getting a clean firmware reinstall |
| 04:45.21 | Rusty1 | MrOpposite: from a device? |
| 04:45.34 | MrOpposite | my ReadyNAS duo |
| 04:46.50 | Rusty1 | MrOpposite: the command you posted might wipe the filesystem off the machine the device is attached to as well |
| 04:46.59 | MrOpposite | yes |
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| 04:47.09 | MrOpposite | thus umount the data partition |
| 04:47.11 | alsa-dev | anyone know how to find what the /dev/soundcard is for alsa? |
| 04:48.46 | Rusty1 | alsa-dev: try running alsamixer in a terminal, the card should appear in the upper left |
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| 04:52.18 | alsa-dev | Rusty1: it doesn't show what /dev/device it is using? |
| 04:52.18 | alsa-dev | Rusty1: many programs require using the soundcard, and the input must be in the /dev/soundcard format |
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| 04:55.37 | alsa-dev | anyone know how to find what the current working /dev/soundcard is? |
| 04:57.40 | alsa-dev | my sound is working fine for most programs, but a few require a /dev/listing for the soundcard; how to i find the correct soundcard in the /dev list? |
| 05:01.02 | Rusty1 | alsa-dev: hwinfo in a terminal perhaps? |
| 05:02.14 | alsa-dev | Rusty1: i'll try that now, thanks, brb |
| 05:02.16 | mactimes | alsa-dev, As Rusty1 said, hwinfo, or lshw. |
| 05:03.39 | alsa-dev | mactimes: lshw does not show the mappings for the /dev/ devices |
| 05:04.27 | mactimes | alsa-dev, Then, hwinfo, as Rusty1 pointed out. |
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| 05:04.53 | Pinchiukas | I get a client-error-document-format-not-supported error in CUPS when I try to print from WinXP. Any ideas why that can be? The printer is shared via Samba. |
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| 05:08.16 | alsa-dev | Rusty1: thanks, i believe hwinfo worked well, and I believe that found the correct hardware to device mappings; thanks again |
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| 05:24.22 | juk | hi, suppose i want to check what is changed with new software update, but Changelog file doesn't provide info, if i apt-get source, is it new source or old? |
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| 05:25.01 | juk | im noob in debian |
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| 05:39.52 | juk | so i just mailed maintener :) |
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| 05:43.32 | juk | #ubuntu is more friendly, what for is that channel??? |
| 05:45.46 | peterrooney | juk: i suppose it would depend on when you last updated your apt indexes. |
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| 05:47.11 | juk | peterrooney: so if i apt-get update before source i'd get a new source, right |
| 05:48.14 | juk | ok thanks i try that |
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| 06:14.38 | geekosopher | while booting into lenny, i get 'kernel panic - not syncing, attempted to kill init' |
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| 06:14.50 | geekosopher | what to do? |
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| 06:15.25 | geekosopher | the boot process stalls at that stage and then nothing happens |
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| 06:29.14 | kdawg | why does everything have to have so many problems lol. |
| 06:29.20 | kdawg | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.20 | kdawg | -bash: cd: Frohe Weihnachten 2: Too many levels of symbolic links |
| 06:29.40 | kdawg | Not sure how to fix it and google is not helping. |
| 06:29.45 | kdawg | anyone no how to fix that |
| 06:30.22 | kdawg | the command used was sudo ln -s "Frohe Weihnachten 2" /linklocation |
| 06:32.43 | kdawg | http://wiki.debian.org/SymLink that command also didn't work |
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| 06:33.45 | kdawg | i had to swap the distination directory for the for the source directory |
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| 06:36.32 | kdawg | I have also been reading this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link and no help there so far either |
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| 07:02.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | kdawg: what problem are you having? |
| 07:03.26 | kdawg | I've created a link from one directory called "Frohe Weihnachten 2" to /var/www/downloads |
| 07:03.38 | kdawg | but |
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| 07:04.35 | kdawg | it was from in the folder were the "Frohe Weihnachten 2" folder exists in so i used the sudo ln -s "Frohe Weihnachten 2" /var/www/downloads |
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| 07:05.03 | kdawg | but now when i go to cd /var/www/downloads/ |
| 07:05.08 | kdawg | i then type ls |
| 07:06.11 | kdawg | lists the "Frohe Weihnachten 2" in a different color then most working directories and such and the other ones. so when i gocd "Frohe Weihnachten 2" |
| 07:06.28 | kdawg | i get this -bash: cd: Frohe Weihnachten 2: Too many levels of symbolic links |
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| 07:07.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | kdawg: from /var/www/downloads/ run 'ls -lh' and put it in pastebin |
| 07:07.08 | kdawg | also now i am afraid to rm "Frohe Weihnachten 2" from inside the downloads directory as i don't want to lose the original data |
| 07:07.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: pastebin |
| 07:07.11 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 07:08.21 | kdawg | http://pastebin.com/UJCQrwpt |
| 07:09.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | kdawg: it points to itself. you can happily rm it |
| 07:10.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | (it being /var/www/downloads/"Frohe Weihnachten 2" |
| 07:10.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | ) |
| 07:12.09 | kdawg | okay |
| 07:12.30 | kdawg | now to figure out why this doesn't work ln -s "Frohe Weihnachten 2" /linklocation |
| 07:12.51 | kdawg | unless i am suppost to use the fullpathname for source directory? |
| 07:13.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | is /linklocation the source or target? |
| 07:13.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | source should always be first on unix commands |
| 07:13.57 | kdawg | linkloaction is the target |
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| 07:15.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | kdawg: where are you running this command? |
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| 07:16.07 | kdawg | in the folder where "Frohe Weihnachten 2" is located |
| 07:17.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | i don't havce enough details to know whats going on with your directories, so try using full paths for both |
| 07:19.37 | kdawg | okay well i am trying to link source "/home/user/directory/Frohe Weihnachten 2" target "/var/www/downloads" |
| 07:19.58 | kdawg | the data is in the source that i want the target the link to |
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| 07:20.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | and running `ln -s "/home/user/directory/Frohe Weihnachten 2" /var/www/downloads/` is causing problems? |
| 07:24.03 | kdawg | okay that worked but i still don;t understand if i am in the folder directory were the source is in doesn't seem to work as rm cp or mv all work using those principles |
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| 07:24.11 | kdawg | thanks for your time mate |
| 07:24.20 | kdawg | I've been trying to get that working for ages |
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| 07:28.20 | kdawg | one last question |
| 07:29.09 | kdawg | if i rm "/var/www/downloads/Frohe Weihnachten 2" that would that deleted the original "/home/user/directory/Frohe Weihnachten 2" as well |
| 07:29.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | no, not unless you -r |
| 07:30.49 | kdawg | okay so make sure i don't do the r |
| 07:31.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | yup |
| 07:32.59 | kdawg | thank you so much mate |
| 07:33.16 | kdawg | U really like your name |
| 07:33.20 | kdawg | I* |
| 07:33.24 | kdawg | Kaiser |
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| 07:33.39 | kdawg | I happen to be german but i got to go for glad the timing was great |
| 07:33.54 | kdawg | as i now have just enough time to get where i have to go. |
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| 07:34.47 | wooden | Is there a way to print the partition table in mega or gigabytes rather than cylinders with /sbin/fdisk? |
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| 07:38.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | kdawg: :) |
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| 07:39.11 | froggyman | is there an easy way to control the fans on my HP laptop? |
| 07:40.48 | icesword | fan? |
| 07:42.22 | streuner_ | no |
| 07:43.25 | icesword | you can blow air to make it cooler |
| 07:44.58 | froggyman | icesword, I find it better to just go sit in my freezer |
| 07:45.00 | froggyman | ;) |
| 07:45.16 | streuner_ | froggyman: try fancontrol, maybe it helps |
| 07:45.22 | streuner_ | !info fancontrol |
| 07:45.52 | dpkg | fancontrol: (utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 1:3.1.2-6 (sid), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 140 kB |
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| 07:46.36 | rozie | I wouldn't call fancontrol "easy way" |
| 07:46.40 | rozie | (hello) |
| 07:46.50 | froggyman | hmm... |
| 07:48.36 | streuner_ | froggyman: btw, is the hardware too hot or do you just want hear nothing at all? :-) |
| 07:49.50 | icesword | youneed a water cooler, no noises |
| 07:50.54 | froggyman | streuner_, i want the fan to run more frequently |
| 07:51.26 | icesword | lol |
| 07:51.36 | streuner_ | frequently? :-) |
| 07:53.25 | froggyman | its late here... |
| 07:53.31 | froggyman | *often |
| 07:53.53 | icesword | what fan? cpu fan? or gpu fan? |
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| 07:54.31 | froggyman | cpu |
| 07:55.10 | streuner_ | CPUs arent an issue for notebooks often |
| 07:55.39 | streuner_ | main issue is often the HD, i just got a notebook cooler |
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| 07:55.56 | rozie | froggyman: why do you want it to run more frequently? |
| 07:56.19 | karlpinc | FWIW, a new wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware and factoid <overview> for your review. |
| 07:56.36 | rozie | I belive it's controlled by hardware with values from manufacturer. it should be pretty safe default |
| 07:56.39 | froggyman | because "sensors" tells me that I run at about 53C all the time |
| 07:57.03 | froggyman | it feels very warm near the CPU as well |
| 07:57.08 | rozie | froggyman: do you have frequency scalling enabled? |
| 07:57.18 | rozie | does it work? |
| 07:57.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | only 50? |
| 07:57.50 | froggyman | I believe so, its set to run at 800MHz (out of 1.6GHz) all the time |
| 07:57.51 | streuner_ | froggyman: what kind of crap are you running, JAVA, FLASH or such? :-) |
| 07:57.59 | icesword | can't you be supposing it should be like 37? |
| 07:57.59 | rozie | which scaling governor do you use (I recommend ondemand) |
| 07:58.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | idles at 60~ |
| 07:58.28 | froggyman | streuner_, IRC, and Chromium with gmail and /. |
| 07:58.31 | streuner_ | froggyman: firecrap running too, maybe some crap there (gif, flash, etc)? |
| 07:58.50 | streuner_ | froggyman: take a look at top... |
| 07:58.59 | rozie | froggyman: how old is this hardware? maybe time for compressed air use.. |
| 07:59.08 | froggyman | rozie, I have it set to just run at the lowest possible frequency |
| 07:59.23 | froggyman | rozie, 3 years or so... you are probably right there |
| 07:59.41 | streuner_ | froggyman: what happens if you close Chromium? |
| 07:59.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | i'm wondering why 50 is deemded a problem. unless atom is particularly badly made temp shouldn't be a problme until > 80c |
| 07:59.59 | rozie | used compressed air recently near the radiator and temperature fallen from 55 to 50 in idle |
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| 08:00.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | (p4's were 94c, prescots 108 o.o) |
| 08:00.27 | froggyman | Kamping_Kaiser, this is a Core2duo t2050 |
| 08:01.16 | froggyman | rozie, I think that you might be right with dust being a problem |
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| 08:02.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | looks like they can handle 100c |
| 08:04.25 | icesword | yeah, then you can boil eggs |
| 08:04.29 | rozie | froggyman: so get an air, turn system off, clean it up and use ondemand ;-) |
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| 08:04.45 | froggyman | thats the plan |
| 08:04.50 | streuner_ | Core 0: +69.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) - hm |
| 08:04.56 | rozie | it's pity to use only 800 MHz |
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| 08:05.29 | streuner_ | froggyman: Kamping_Kaiser is right, 52C. is nothing |
| 08:05.48 | streuner_ | in CPU terms |
| 08:05.53 | froggyman | even for a laptop? |
| 08:06.18 | dutchfish | hi, squueze/x86_64, sys/inotify.h does not properly detect hdd/usb A states, instead it blatently gives up and doesnt wake disk, libc6-dev 2.11.2-7, any hints welcome. |
| 08:06.36 | streuner_ | in my experiences? Yes, Toshiba Satellite |
| 08:06.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | froggyman: like i said, i'm idling at > 60 atm (on a laptop) |
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| 08:07.25 | froggyman | Kamping_Kaiser, alright. guess I won't really worry about it then |
| 08:07.28 | froggyman | thanks! |
| 08:09.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | enjoy :) |
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| 08:13.53 | dutchfish | hi, d-i beta 2 x86_64, latest grub2 update, no boot device detected on basic install and grub2 in mbr on qemu 0.12.5+dfsg-3, install with lenny and dist-upgrade to squeeze does not show does problem when converting to grub2. any hints welcome. |
| 08:14.27 | dutchfish | s/does/this |
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| 08:14.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: using usb image? |
| 08:15.17 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: no, image from real cd, with libvirtd |
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| 08:15.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: hm, not sure then |
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| 08:16.44 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: hint as far as i can see, choles the install on generating the initrd and the generation of grub2 stansas. |
| 08:16.54 | dutchfish | s/choles/chokes |
| 08:17.21 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: not so, when dist-upgrading |
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| 08:18.08 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: there are also some strange things with libc6 |
| 08:18.31 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: version 2.11.2-7 squeeze/x86_64 |
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| 08:19.16 | wathek | hi any here knows backup-manager ? I'd like to know if the BM_REPOSITORY_ROOT environment variable is used to store the created archive that backupmanager will transfer to another place or what ? |
| 08:20.16 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: Kamping_Kaiser when i used libc6 2.11.2-6+squeeze1 i had none of these problems btw |
| 08:21.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: i've not seen issues with teh 32bit version of libc6, so (hopefully) its and amd64 issue. |
| 08:21.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: i havne't seen anyone else reporting thiese issues here fwiw (although i'm not here full time), so it may be a corner case |
| 08:21.47 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: to bad, i have tested this in 32bit as well, same problem |
| 08:22.36 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: all since 2010-11-7 |
| 08:23.24 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: could be, fair enough, thank you for trying, i delve further into it |
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| 08:24.08 | uriah | hello |
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| 08:25.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: ah, well good luck. hope you track it down |
| 08:25.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: remember to file RC bugs before release not after ;) |
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| 08:26.20 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: sure, i just wanted to let you all know, if i can pinpoint it down, i will file it for sure. |
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| 08:26.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: definitely good to hear about, thanks |
| 08:27.09 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: any time frame for the release? do i have more then 1 week? |
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| 08:30.13 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: last thingy, there is some issue with spkr-driver on boot? |
| 08:31.09 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: it doesnt wait for /dev to fully populated. |
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| 08:33.17 | karlpinc | !tell dutchfish about guess the release date |
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| 08:33.36 | dutchfish | karlpinc: thanks ;) |
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| 08:33.45 | karlpinc | dutchfish: However, I think at some point they just pitch the packages that have bugs that won't get fixed. |
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| 08:34.21 | dutchfish | karlpinc: sure, but i hope they don't do that with eglibc ! |
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| 08:38.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: not aware of spkg-driver issues, but my system doesn't have one atm. |
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| 08:39.04 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: ok, delving on through the list i saw that it is already reported. |
| 08:39.37 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: thank you very much. |
| 08:40.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: no problem, good luck with your bugs |
| 08:41.36 | uriah | ...if i already have xorg installed and i want to upgrade all of my xorg packages to the ones in the experimental repo, what would be the proper way of doing so, in order not to miss/forget any packages? |
| 08:42.11 | dutchfish | uriah: the best way is simple sid backporting it |
| 08:43.04 | dutchfish | uriah: just dget -x [exp url of package], solves deps and dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc |
| 08:43.27 | uriah | oh really? |
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| 08:43.50 | dutchfish | uriah: that way you don't break deps and can easely revert |
| 08:44.41 | dutchfish | uriah: dpkg bot has a one liner to do simple sid backport but i forgot |
| 08:45.08 | uriah | dutchfish: hmm, well, i tried doing this with xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.3.0, but the code is incompatible with sid xorg (which is why i want to move to xorg 7.6 completely) |
| 08:45.28 | dutchfish | nods |
| 08:45.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: ssd |
| 08:45.58 | dpkg | ssd is probably (Solid State Disk) The D in SSD is really a misnomer. SSD storage is basically a huge block of RAM chips that functions like a hard drive. SSD drives (obviously) are extremely expensive, but offer very high data speeds that are necessary in some applications. They can also be used as large caches on huge RAID subsystems. See also <ssd limit>. |
| 08:46.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | er, |
| 08:46.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: ssb |
| 08:46.04 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add ONLY a <deb-src> line for sid to /etc/apt/sources.list 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 08:46.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | that one |
| 08:46.09 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: ty |
| 08:46.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | np |
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| 08:47.17 | uriah | so, the xorg packages in the experimental repo can't just be installed on top of lenny/squeeze/ |
| 08:47.21 | uriah | ? |
| 08:47.26 | dutchfish | uriah: nope |
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| 08:47.31 | uriah | darn. |
| 08:47.45 | dutchfish | uriah: too many deps are involved |
| 08:48.21 | dutchfish | uriah: xorg, mesa and drm |
| 08:48.39 | Arrowmaster | lenny no, but afaik packages in experimental should work with squeeze/sid because they are built against sid |
| 08:48.52 | dutchfish | Arrowmaster: not quiet for mesa |
| 08:49.09 | dutchfish | Arrowmaster: mesa has now kms |
| 08:49.13 | Arrowmaster | ah so special exception to the rule |
| 08:49.20 | dutchfish | ndos |
| 08:49.28 | dutchfish | s/ndos/nods |
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| 08:49.59 | uriah | and there aren't any backports of the necessary mesa packages for squeeze? |
| 08:50.05 | dutchfish | uriah: you need a more recent kernel as well |
| 08:50.13 | uriah | i'm running .36 atm |
| 08:50.17 | Arrowmaster | backports are a stable only thing |
| 08:50.22 | uriah | ah, k |
| 08:50.22 | dutchfish | uriah: that should work |
| 08:51.18 | dutchfish | uriah: i did the same path with latest radeon from experimental and mesa 7.6, that worked out pretty well |
| 08:51.31 | dutchfish | uriah: but running on squeeze |
| 08:51.35 | uriah | cool |
| 08:51.36 | uriah | same |
| 08:51.42 | ov3rmind | :::) |
| 08:52.00 | uriah | so, build experimental mesa, then install drm/xorg packages from experimental? |
| 08:52.28 | uriah | or rebuild drm as well? |
| 08:52.35 | dutchfish | uriah: i backported it all myself, just to get aquainted with the intrinsics, but thats up to you |
| 08:52.46 | dutchfish | uriah: yes |
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| 08:53.33 | dutchfish | uriah: if it doesnt build and find bugs i don't install and sort things out before i brake my system, that's my parole ;) |
| 08:53.46 | uriah | lol :) |
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| 08:55.14 | dutchfish | uriah: specially to prevent abi brakeige when kernel is involved like kms |
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| 08:55.23 | uriah | yeah... |
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| 08:56.05 | dutchfish | but it is a nice drill to do and learn |
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| 08:57.38 | a931bw | What is broadcast adress? |
| 08:58.32 | uriah | dutchfish: did you rebuild *all* xorg packages though? |
| 08:58.45 | dutchfish | uriah: yes |
| 08:58.50 | uriah | ouch. |
| 08:59.00 | dutchfish | uriah: it is not as bad as it sounds |
| 08:59.00 | uriah | and do you update it regularly? :P |
| 08:59.07 | dutchfish | uriah: yes |
| 08:59.18 | uriah | did you write a script to do it? heheh |
| 08:59.28 | dutchfish | uriah: in this case, only when new updates arrive in expirimental |
| 08:59.37 | uriah | ah, k |
| 08:59.42 | a931bw | Guys |
| 08:59.56 | a931bw | i've installed debian stable netinst |
| 09:00.00 | a931bw | now i have only black screen |
| 09:00.04 | a931bw | with command promt |
| 09:00.11 | a931bw | how do i setup networking? |
| 09:00.26 | dutchfish | a931bw: man interfaces |
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| 09:00.50 | cahoot | a931bw: not speaking of wifi? |
| 09:01.00 | a931bw | no |
| 09:01.01 | a931bw | eth0 |
| 09:01.05 | a931bw | ethernet |
| 09:01.24 | uriah | ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0 |
| 09:01.29 | uriah | that should do it |
| 09:01.30 | dutchfish | a931bw: the installer should have guide you through the process, normally |
| 09:01.38 | a931bw | uriah |
| 09:01.46 | uriah | but i am surprised that it isn't set up automatically |
| 09:01.47 | a931bw | i don't know why |
| 09:01.52 | a931bw | but it picks up wrong ip adress |
| 09:02.01 | a931bw | so i can only go to the ISP website |
| 09:02.14 | a931bw | i need to change netmask&ip adress |
| 09:02.17 | uriah | what is your local ip? |
| 09:02.23 | a931bw | 249.25 |
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| 09:02.45 | uriah | 192.168.249.25? |
| 09:02.45 | a931bw | it pickups wrong one |
| 09:02.48 | a931bw | yea |
| 09:04.00 | icesword | ping www.google.com? |
| 09:04.08 | a931bw | doesnt work |
| 09:04.09 | a931bw | but |
| 09:04.10 | Arrowmaster | what should the correct one be? |
| 09:04.13 | a931bw | ping tts.lt |
| 09:04.14 | a931bw | does |
| 09:04.19 | a931bw | arrow |
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| 09:04.32 | a931bw | 192.168.249.25 |
| 09:04.35 | a931bw | but it finds |
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| 09:04.53 | a931bw | 192.168.240.7 |
| 09:05.37 | icesword | doyou use a router? |
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| 09:05.44 | a931bw | no |
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| 09:06.16 | uriah | a931bw: did you just move to debian from windows? |
| 09:06.20 | icesword | ah that ip is no use ip... |
| 09:06.23 | a931bw | uriah no |
| 09:06.25 | uriah | ok |
| 09:06.38 | a931bw | i moved from ubuntu |
| 09:06.46 | jelly-home | a931bw: do you have an entry for that machine in /etc/hosts? |
| 09:07.09 | a931bw | ? |
| 09:07.13 | uriah | do you usually need to log into your isp via pppoe, or is this a dhcp-based connection to your modem? |
| 09:07.26 | a931bw | its direct connect |
| 09:07.29 | uriah | ok |
| 09:07.46 | icesword | does your isp use some app to identify your access to internet? |
| 09:07.51 | a931bw | yes |
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| 09:07.55 | jelly-home | a931bw: it's a config file. Read it and look if there's a line mentioning "tts.lt". |
| 09:07.57 | a931bw | mac adress check |
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| 09:08.49 | a931bw | http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8144/52736457.jpg |
| 09:08.53 | icesword | go to the dns? |
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| 09:09.19 | icesword | get something for identify |
| 09:09.36 | jelly-home | that surely doesn't look like a debian screenshot |
| 09:09.43 | a931bw | its my isp's |
| 09:09.44 | a931bw | one |
| 09:10.03 | icesword | what's your dns? |
| 09:10.28 | a931bw | second |
| 09:10.33 | a931bw | ill be back in a sec |
| 09:10.43 | a931bw | ill plug ethernet cable into laptop |
| 09:10.45 | a931bw | check setts |
| 09:10.52 | icesword | go to it |
| 09:10.53 | dutchfish | a931bw: can you ping google.com by ip? like ping 74.125.79.99 |
| 09:11.13 | Arrowmaster | im wondering how the netinst worked but now the settings the installer used dont work |
| 09:11.20 | icesword | see its ip? |
| 09:11.52 | icesword | its not online definitely |
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| 09:12.29 | uriah | dutchfish: does mesa need anything from kernel? or just drm? |
| 09:13.02 | icesword | he s not under a router , so can't be 192.168.... something like that |
| 09:13.03 | dutchfish | uriah: at the top of my head just drm and some deps for building it |
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| 09:14.10 | dutchfish | uriah: but apt-get build-dep <package> will show the needed ones |
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| 09:17.58 | uriah | dutchfish: ok. thanks for the help! :) |
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| 09:20.43 | dutchfish | uriah: if newer versions of build deps are needed it will warn you anyway, you have to resolve those too |
| 09:21.47 | dutchfish | uriah: good luck |
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| 09:32.19 | JyZyXEL | Number concerning the current stable release: 943 |
| 09:32.29 | JyZyXEL | how can current stable release have rc bugs? |
| 09:32.46 | JyZyXEL | if its already released |
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| 09:35.46 | a931bw | still doesnt work |
| 09:35.46 | a931bw | :( |
| 09:35.50 | a931bw | i managed to change ip |
| 09:36.02 | a931bw | but how do i change gateway? and dns |
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| 09:40.15 | rozie | a931bw: man interfaces |
| 09:40.36 | rozie | and dns are in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 09:40.57 | rozie | (if you configure network with static IPs) |
| 09:41.13 | a931bw | how do i tell system |
| 09:41.18 | a931bw | not to try auto DHCP? |
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| 09:41.50 | rozie | man interfaces. again. |
| 09:42.11 | rozie | but if it's a laptop, you probably want to use dhcp... |
| 09:42.25 | rozie | and consider some network helper |
| 09:42.31 | rozie | like network manager or wicd |
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| 09:42.38 | a931bw | i don't have X |
| 09:43.35 | rozie | wicd has cli mode... |
| 09:43.53 | rozie | network manager too (AFAIK) |
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| 09:44.24 | cahoot | a931bw: you're sure it's eth0 not eth1 or so? |
| 09:44.30 | a931bw | yes |
| 09:44.54 | rozie | a931bw: can you tell what is exactly you problem? |
| 09:45.05 | a931bw | i can't connect into internet |
| 09:45.09 | a931bw | well |
| 09:45.12 | a931bw | outside of local network |
| 09:45.17 | a931bw | i can connect to isp |
| 09:45.28 | a931bw | this means wrong settings |
| 09:45.30 | a931bw | of ip's |
| 09:45.37 | rozie | what's your network topology? |
| 09:45.51 | rozie | and does local network work OK? |
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| 09:46.01 | a931bw | only main website |
| 09:46.03 | a931bw | of isp |
| 09:46.11 | a931bw | all additional one's doesnt |
| 09:46.22 | rozie | ehm. |
| 09:46.34 | rozie | if one works, this means network works |
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| 09:46.43 | rozie | a931bw: is it new hardware? |
| 09:46.57 | a931bw | no |
| 09:47.03 | a931bw | you mean mac adress? |
| 09:47.06 | rozie | yep. |
| 09:47.12 | a931bw | its right one |
| 09:47.33 | rozie | did it work before? (with this MAC) |
| 09:47.40 | a931bw | yes |
| 09:47.51 | a931bw | right now i'm on pc |
| 09:47.53 | a931bw | with same mac |
| 09:47.56 | a931bw | so it works |
| 09:48.24 | rozie | OK. what are your network settings right now? |
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| 09:49.51 | a931bw | http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4107/32045189.jpg |
| 09:51.16 | k[t | ... |
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| 09:51.37 | a931bw | somehow |
| 09:51.43 | a931bw | i need to put all these settings |
| 09:51.44 | a931bw | on debian |
| 09:52.06 | k[t | it shouldn't be that hard... |
| 09:52.11 | a931bw | first |
| 09:52.17 | a931bw | how do i disable dhcp? |
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| 09:52.45 | Arrowmaster | edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:52.47 | k[t | from a low perspective: ifconfig and route should do it... easy dhcp requires either "dhcpcd" or "dhclient" |
| 09:54.06 | a931bw | be back in a sec |
| 09:54.10 | k[t | yep, then on a lan connection, "dhclient or dhcpcd" should do the reset from there.. |
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| 09:57.55 | a931bw_ | what is broadcast adress? |
| 09:58.58 | rozie | a931bw_: you don't need to specify one |
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| 09:59.16 | rozie | a931bw_: are you sure you have static IP configuration right now? |
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| 10:00.02 | a931bw_ | i think so |
| 10:00.11 | rozie | so make sure |
| 10:00.23 | a931bw_ | how |
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| 10:00.34 | rozie | a931bw_: ask your admin |
| 10:01.01 | rozie | it's pointless to configure static IP if DHCP is required |
| 10:01.04 | a931bw_ | can't |
| 10:01.13 | a931bw_ | dhcp |
| 10:01.19 | a931bw_ | isn't requered |
| 10:01.23 | rozie | first of all, it may not work at all |
| 10:01.29 | rozie | a931bw_: how do you know? |
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| 10:01.53 | rozie | it's matter of enabling one option on switch |
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| 10:02.11 | a931bw_ | http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4107/32045189.jpg |
| 10:02.16 | a931bw_ | and the inet works |
| 10:02.34 | rozie | and systems without dhcp won't have net access |
| 10:03.00 | rozie | a931bw_: it doesn't tell if it's static or dynamic |
| 10:03.04 | rozie | anyway |
| 10:03.16 | a931bw_ | on ubuntu |
| 10:03.28 | rozie | if its ethernet NIC (I mean copper, not wireless) |
| 10:03.34 | a931bw_ | in network manager |
| 10:03.41 | rozie | all you need is reading man interfaces |
| 10:03.43 | a931bw_ | i just used |
| 10:03.45 | a931bw_ | manual |
| 10:03.48 | rozie | good luck. |
| 10:03.49 | a931bw_ | seetup |
| 10:05.23 | a931bw_ | sett stuff with dhcp |
| 10:05.25 | a931bw_ | trying now |
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| 10:13.53 | a931bw | setting up static |
| 10:13.57 | a931bw | worked |
| 10:14.07 | a931bw | now how do i enable source's? |
| 10:15.26 | nsadmin | man 5 sources.list |
| 10:15.32 | nsadmin | and look at your existing sources |
| 10:15.42 | nsadmin | make sure your networking is up |
| 10:16.19 | nsadmin | acceptance test: ping yahoo.com is successful and the site returns replies |
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| 10:17.40 | a931bw | it is up |
| 10:17.48 | a931bw | but what to write in sources? |
| 10:17.51 | a931bw | it only has CDROM: |
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| 10:18.36 | a931bw | lenny btw |
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| 10:20.40 | nsadmin | get rid of those (unless you want them) |
| 10:20.42 | babilen | !sources.list |
| 10:20.42 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.CC.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where CC is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 10:21.10 | nsadmin | what country are you in |
| 10:21.42 | babilen | a931bw: And use "deb-src http:// ..." for source repos |
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| 10:24.19 | nsadmin | !country lt5 |
| 10:24.19 | dpkg | Country codes are at http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/websoft/wwwstat/country-codes.txt |
| 10:24.21 | nsadmin | !country lt |
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| 10:25.36 | nsadmin | there is a lithuania mirror |
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| 10:27.45 | mariuskarthaus | Hi, I'm trying to pxe/netboot into a lenny installer (current/20101127). The installer is claiming no disks are found on the server. dmesg shows that scsi 0:0:0:0 and 1:0:0:0 have the correct disks but after that I get an error about sd_mod and no /dev/sd* are created. Anyone know what could be wrong here? |
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| 11:01.51 | a931bw | Hey all |
| 11:01.54 | a931bw | i got internet working |
| 11:02.05 | a931bw | how do i install Nvidia drivers now? |
| 11:02.48 | rozie | a931bw: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 11:02.52 | a931bw | doesnt work |
| 11:02.54 | rozie | a931bw: try google next time. |
| 11:03.04 | a931bw | Erbureth: Couldn't find package xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 11:03.33 | rozie | a931bw: details. |
| 11:03.38 | rozie | card, system... |
| 11:03.43 | a931bw | Debian lenny |
| 11:03.46 | a931bw | Nvidia 9300M |
| 11:03.51 | rozie | ugh. |
| 11:03.59 | rozie | I'd go Squeeze |
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| 11:04.16 | rozie | should work OOTB with non-free drivers |
| 11:04.30 | rozie | as described on this page |
| 11:04.36 | SparFux | Hi all. Are there programs to get video thumbnails or easily preview videos and then let them sort into several directories? |
| 11:04.46 | rozie | a931bw: if you really want Lenny, consider backports.org |
| 11:05.02 | rozie | (if there's nvidia driver there) |
| 11:05.13 | rozie | bbl |
| 11:05.17 | a931bw | how do i check |
| 11:05.20 | a931bw | my debian version? |
| 11:05.31 | cahoot | !version |
| 11:05.31 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 11:05.46 | a931bw | apt-get install gcc-4.0 |
| 11:05.50 | a931bw | 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 11:05.57 | a931bw | which one is that |
| 11:06.11 | a931bw | i'm using stable |
| 11:06.23 | its-me-again | hi allis there a gui for bootloader so i can change boot splash ikmge |
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| 11:06.36 | its-me-again | * splash image |
| 11:06.55 | a931bw | how do i upgrade lenny? |
| 11:08.08 | babilen | a931bw: Read the release notes for Squeeze -- http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes |
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| 11:08.56 | babilen | a931bw: And make sure that you follow the procedure described therein |
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| 11:09.06 | a931bw | squeeze |
| 11:09.09 | a931bw | is Unstable |
| 11:09.10 | a931bw | or testing? |
| 11:09.17 | babilen | Currently testing |
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| 11:09.34 | babilen | Unstable is and will always be called "sid" |
| 11:09.35 | its-me-again | a931bw: this might help http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html |
| 11:09.55 | babilen | … assuming you are using i386 |
| 11:10.08 | electronicmaji | I need assitance. I attempted to install Debian but whenever I start my computer the wallpaper and the bootup animation say FreeBSD. |
| 11:10.16 | its-me-again | a931bw: this is even better http://www.go2linux.org/how-to-upgrade-from-debian-lenny-to-squeeze |
| 11:10.29 | a931bw | thats |
| 11:10.32 | a931bw | what im using right now |
| 11:10.49 | its-me-again | a931bw: squeeze is a rolling releASE LENNY IS NOT |
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| 11:11.08 | cahoot | hmmm |
| 11:11.31 | babilen | its-me-again: No, that link contains horrible advice. Please don't advertise it here |
| 11:11.56 | mariuskarthaus | I'm getting this error in squeeze "sd_mod: Unknown symbol blk-queue-physical-block-size-fixed" and the system sees no disks. They do show up in dmesg as detected on the scsi bus but the system seems unable to create those devices |
| 11:12.09 | babilen | a931bw: Please follow the release notes. It is important that you do so. |
| 11:12.25 | a931bw | Why? |
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| 11:13.16 | babilen | a931bw: Different aspects of the upgrade. For example: You shouldn't use aptitude, but apt-get, you have to make sure that you update the kernel and udev together, .... |
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| 11:13.43 | its-me-again | babilen: the first or seccone one |
| 11:13.48 | a931bw | apt-get full-upgrade |
| 11:13.54 | babilen | its-me-again: The go2linux one |
| 11:13.54 | a931bw | wont do the trick? |
| 11:14.00 | babilen | a931bw: no |
| 11:14.18 | a931bw | go2linux |
| 11:14.21 | a931bw | said that its alll |
| 11:14.23 | a931bw | ok |
| 11:14.27 | a931bw | i'll try |
| 11:14.45 | babilen | a931bw: Yes, which is why you should follow the official upgrade procedure in the release notes. |
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| 11:15.12 | its-me-again | is still trying to find how to change the default boot-splash image |
| 11:17.43 | babilen | its-me-again: That is easy -- install desktop base and edit /usr/share/desktop-base/grub_background.sh |
| 11:18.18 | its-me-again | babilen: is that in packmanager |
| 11:18.28 | its-me-again | *package manager |
| 11:18.46 | babilen | sure |
| 11:19.05 | babilen | err, "desktop-base" not "desktop base" |
| 11:19.21 | its-me-again | babilen: its already installed |
| 11:19.28 | babilen | good |
| 11:19.47 | its-me-again | how to do it |
| 11:20.04 | babilen | edit /usr/share/desktop-base/grub_background.sh and run "update-grub" |
| 11:20.29 | its-me-again | okthansk |
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| 11:20.38 | babilen | (for grub-pc (i.e. grub2) that is) |
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| 11:44.29 | its-me-again | how can i edit the login screen background. |
| 11:44.52 | its-me-again | i tryed editing /usr/share/desktop-base/grub_background.sh without luck |
| 11:48.06 | babilen | login screen? didn't you say boot-splash? |
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| 11:48.30 | babilen | which I understood as referring to: "grub2 background image" |
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| 11:52.48 | PalmBalm | debian failed me |
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| 11:52.55 | PalmBalm | after a few days or normal use |
| 11:53.04 | PalmBalm | internet would die after 15 minutes uptime |
| 11:53.19 | PalmBalm | ping attempts would return "Operation Not Permittted" |
| 11:53.57 | PalmBalm | anyone here ever seen that shit? |
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| 11:55.39 | osfd | Hi there |
| 11:55.57 | jeff_hann | PalmBalm, asking questions like that ain't gonna help anyone |
| 11:56.14 | jeff_hann | tell us a bit about your setup |
| 11:56.49 | osfd | I get the following the problem when launching amarok : http://pastebin.com/uu3Yp2UK |
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| 11:57.12 | osfd | could you Pleeeaaassssee help me...it's been like that for a month |
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| 11:58.08 | jeff_hann | osfd, if you run amarokapp from command line, what does it say? |
| 11:58.19 | EmleyMoor | osfd: Are you on lenny? |
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| 11:59.26 | osfd | EmleyMoor: yep, lenny |
| 11:59.46 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... I never had any bother with it in lenny |
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| 12:00.14 | osfd | jeff_hann: it says this http://pastebin.com/yWPSGU4h |
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| 12:02.14 | jeff_hann | osfd, try to reinstall it, it might be a database corruption issue |
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| 12:02.35 | jeff_hann | with purge, that is |
| 12:02.42 | osfd | jeff_hann: already done that |
| 12:03.01 | osfd | though the purge si quite risky, isn't it ?? |
| 12:03.21 | jeff_hann | purge just removes config files and other associated data |
| 12:03.27 | jeff_hann | remove does not |
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| 12:03.43 | jeff_hann | so try a purge and tell us what happens |
| 12:03.55 | FuS245 | hello |
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| 12:05.44 | osfd | jeff_hann: still crashes |
| 12:05.59 | jeff_hann | the same error? |
| 12:06.12 | lxsys | rt8192su on debian, how do I get it to work? |
| 12:06.39 | osfd | jeff_hann: same... |
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| 12:07.26 | jeff_hann | osfd, is it set up to scan some directories for media files? |
| 12:07.55 | osfd | jeff_hann: like a library ?? |
| 12:08.06 | jeff_hann | yeah |
| 12:08.11 | lxsys | hmmm nvm the hackish hack of ndiswrapper appears to be working |
| 12:08.15 | lxsys | cyl guys and girls |
| 12:08.32 | jeff_hann | like you have your music in one folder and amarok scans it at startup |
| 12:08.58 | osfd | jeff_hann: yes, my music lib but this lib has never moved and it's always worked |
| 12:09.40 | jeff_hann | ok |
| 12:10.13 | jeff_hann | try to unset that option and restart amarok |
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| 12:10.54 | a931bw | "Install the user-space GLX libraries and the X driver " |
| 12:10.56 | a931bw | how dod i do that? |
| 12:11.33 | osfd | jeff_hann: actually it does not scan anything since I removed any config files in ~/.kde/[...]/amarok |
| 12:11.52 | jeff_hann | I see |
| 12:12.14 | a931bw | how to install nvidia driver? |
| 12:12.15 | jeff_hann | after you quit amarok, try to see if there are no more amarok processes left around |
| 12:12.25 | jeff_hann | like ps aux | grep amarok |
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| 12:13.38 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 12:13.42 | Azrael_- | when i set up a server and create a bigger raid-array it takes ages until the array is marked as active and clean. my server-provider offers a reinstallation which works within 15min and still has a clean raid-array. any idea how this is possible? |
| 12:13.50 | Iridos | dpkg, ping |
| 12:13.51 | dpkg | Yes, iridos, you are online. |
| 12:13.52 | osfd | jeff_hann: nothing |
| 12:13.58 | Iridos | oh, just lag |
| 12:14.18 | jeff_hann | osfd, do you have an .amarok folder in ~ ? |
| 12:14.24 | jeff_hann | ok |
| 12:14.36 | jeff_hann | what database backend does amarok use ? |
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| 12:15.26 | osfd | no .amarok folder |
| 12:15.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | ugh |
| 12:15.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got this awful feeling as i see the inode errors for FSCK being fisxed on my fileserver :( |
| 12:15.55 | osfd | jeff_hann: dunno about the database but sql I think (if possible) |
| 12:16.17 | jeff_hann | well, what sql? look in options |
| 12:16.24 | jeff_hann | from the GUI |
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| 12:18.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok this sucks 8192 ish inodes are lost :( |
| 12:19.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | *curls up in a ball and wishes for a tape backup* |
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| 12:19.16 | osfd | jeff_hann: the GUI crashes.... that's the point !! |
| 12:19.19 | jeff_hann | osfd, in the meantime, see if this command returns anything : ls -a ~/.kde/share/config | grep -i amarok |
| 12:19.47 | osfd | jeff_hann: result is amarokrc |
| 12:20.02 | jeff_hann | :) |
| 12:20.43 | jeff_hann | osfd, issue a mv ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc.old |
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| 12:21.18 | jeff_hann | then see if this returns something : ls -a ~/.kde/share/apps | grep -i amarok |
| 12:21.23 | a931bw | how do i install Nvidia drivers in debian? |
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| 12:22.57 | stew | a931bw: do you need 3d accelleration? |
| 12:23.02 | a931bw | yes\ |
| 12:23.03 | osfd | jeff_hann: ls -all gives me amarokrc.old |
| 12:23.10 | stew | a931bw: what release of debian are you using? |
| 12:23.19 | a931bw | Squeeze |
| 12:23.30 | jeff_hann | osfd, search in ~/.kde/share/apps |
| 12:23.32 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw: i used this document: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 12:23.40 | a931bw | that doesnt help me |
| 12:23.46 | a931bw | 3. Install the user-space GLX libraries and the X driver |
| 12:23.48 | a931bw | stuck there |
| 12:23.48 | stew | a931bw: you can try xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 12:23.52 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw: and chose the debian specific way |
| 12:23.59 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw: oh, ok |
| 12:24.06 | a931bw | whats userspace? |
| 12:24.26 | stew | a931bw: userspace is stuff that isn't the kernel |
| 12:24.46 | a931bw | so what should i do? |
| 12:24.53 | osfd | jeff_hann: http://pastebin.com/xqS8UYNi |
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| 12:25.30 | a931bw | ? |
| 12:25.43 | jeff_hann | osfd : ls -a ~/.kde/share/apps | grep -i amarok |
| 12:25.52 | a931bw | zero |
| 12:25.57 | a931bw | what to do with userpsace? |
| 12:25.58 | jeff_hann | it should return a folder named amarok |
| 12:26.02 | a931bw | how do i install? |
| 12:26.26 | osfd | jeff_hann: ?? |
| 12:26.40 | jeff_hann | osfd, what does the above command return? |
| 12:26.44 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw: i don't remember doing anything there actually |
| 12:27.02 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw: let me check the guide again |
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| 12:27.13 | osfd | jeff_hann: amarok but that's what the pastebin says... |
| 12:27.20 | jeff_hann | ok |
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| 12:27.40 | zeroheroDeb | ah |
| 12:27.51 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw: apt-get install nvidia-glx${VERSION} |
| 12:27.59 | zeroheroDeb | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Libraries |
| 12:28.37 | jeff_hann | move that folder : mv ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok.old |
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| 12:28.56 | a931bw | version? |
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| 12:29.06 | osfd | jeff_hann: done |
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| 12:29.42 | jeff_hann | now try to start amarok |
| 12:29.46 | jeff_hann | from command line |
| 12:29.50 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw: yes, what version of the nvidia driver did you install? should be the same iirc |
| 12:30.24 | osfd | jeff_hann: I have a first time running config thing... I run through it and I tell you the result |
| 12:30.32 | jeff_hann | osfd, ok |
| 12:30.34 | a931bw | erm |
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| 12:30.37 | a931bw | i dont remember :( |
| 12:30.41 | a931bw | intalled nvidia-glx |
| 12:31.00 | osfd | jeff_hann: about the database ?? |
| 12:31.17 | jeff_hann | osfd, what about it? |
| 12:31.17 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw: ah, i see there are no version numbers in the name |
| 12:31.22 | osfd | sq, postgre mysql ??? |
| 12:31.37 | gumbox | Hi, I'm getting this message during boot and also a bunch of mount usage info: findfs: unable to resolve 'UUID="6500f3a4-eaa1-40cd-9c1b-d00cb37dfbea". It's coming from checkroot.sh... what could be wrong? |
| 12:31.44 | jeff_hann | osfd, try sqlite |
| 12:31.45 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw: only nvidia-glx |
| 12:31.51 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw: so that should be it |
| 12:31.52 | a931bw | i did |
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| 12:32.07 | osfd | jeff_hann: once again crashes... |
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| 12:32.32 | jeff_hann | osfd, same error? |
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| 12:32.46 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw: you should only need to edit your xorg.conf then |
| 12:33.06 | stew | gumbox: show us the output of "blkid" and the contents of /etc/fstab ; use a pastebin |
| 12:33.08 | osfd | jeff_hann: same |
| 12:33.34 | jeff_hann | osfd, remove the two folders from ~/.kde/share |
| 12:33.56 | jeff_hann | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.04 | jeff_hann | and /apps/amarok |
| 12:34.16 | jeff_hann | and issue dpkg -l sqlite |
| 12:34.58 | gumbox | stew: the UUID is right, I've checked. It's something with checkroot.sh. findfs resolves that filesystem if I pass it he UUID, but if I run S07checkroot.sh after booting it gives me the same error. |
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| 12:35.47 | gumbox | would you like to see my /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh? Even though I haven't edited it... |
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| 12:36.57 | osfd | jeff_hann: No packages found matching sqlite. |
| 12:37.44 | jeff_hann | in amarok's configuration dialog you selected sqlite, right? |
| 12:37.49 | jeff_hann | as DB backend |
| 12:37.54 | osfd | jeff_hann: yes... |
| 12:38.07 | jeff_hann | well, sudo aptitude install sqlite |
| 12:38.14 | jeff_hann | or apt-get |
| 12:38.14 | osfd | jeff_hann: I should install it.... |
| 12:38.18 | jeff_hann | yeah :) |
| 12:39.33 | jeff_hann | then try to start amarok again, selecting sqlite |
| 12:40.14 | osfd | jeff_hann: still crashes |
| 12:40.24 | jeff_hann | :( |
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| 12:40.54 | a931bw_ | YAY |
| 12:40.55 | a931bw_ | its working |
| 12:40.56 | a931bw_ | :) |
| 12:41.09 | jeff_hann | from what I see, some recommend MySQL as a DB backend for amarok |
| 12:41.12 | jeff_hann | so |
| 12:41.20 | jeff_hann | 1. purge amarok |
| 12:41.35 | jeff_hann | 2. remove those files/folders from ~/.kde/share |
| 12:41.43 | jeff_hann | 3. install mysql |
| 12:41.55 | jeff_hann | 4. reboot (just to be sure) |
| 12:42.00 | jeff_hann | 5. start amarok |
| 12:42.09 | a931bw_ | how do i install kde4? |
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| 12:45.32 | osfd | jeff_hann: I reboot, reinstall amarok and then lauch it / |
| 12:45.33 | osfd | ? |
| 12:45.42 | Iridos | !kde4 |
| 12:45.42 | dpkg | KDE 4 is the version of <KDE> that you will find in Squeeze, ask me about <install kde4>. See also <kde squeeze>. Because KDE 4 is so new, you might get more assistance in #debian-kde on irc.oftc.net. |
| 12:45.49 | jeff_hann | osfd, yeah, sorry |
| 12:45.56 | jeff_hann | I forgot the install step |
| 12:46.06 | osfd | jeff_hann: BRB |
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| 12:48.13 | a931bw_ | Iridos |
| 12:48.18 | a931bw_ | But how do i install it? |
| 12:48.24 | a931bw_ | i am with squeeze |
| 12:48.53 | PalmBalm | kDE unable to set images as background=FAIL |
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| 12:52.01 | a931bw_ | Palm |
| 12:52.05 | a931bw_ | but how do i install it? |
| 12:52.40 | osfd | jeff_hann: same story again... crashes |
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| 12:54.55 | ov3rmind | for me in my actual squeeze kde not function maybe i update squeeze and try again , any help or irformation about? |
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| 12:58.59 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw_: "apt-get install kde-full" will install everything kde |
| 12:59.14 | a931bw_ | 4'th? |
| 12:59.23 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw_: maybe someone else could tell you what that means, i'm using gnome here |
| 12:59.43 | zeroheroDeb | a931bw_: yes, if you're using squeeze |
| 13:00.01 | ov3rmind | i try zeroheroDeb thks ! |
| 13:00.23 | a931bw_ | dang |
| 13:00.32 | a931bw_ | i need to download gigabyte |
| 13:00.33 | a931bw_ | :( |
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| 13:00.44 | a931bw_ | alsop |
| 13:00.49 | a931bw_ | i have ./home partition |
| 13:00.53 | a931bw_ | but its ext4 |
| 13:00.56 | a931bw_ | how do i mount it? |
| 13:01.00 | a931bw_ | as ./home |
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| 13:01.07 | osfd | jeff_hann: I feel like it's more a qt issue... |
| 13:01.19 | jeff_hann | osfd, we'll try the mysql approach then |
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| 13:01.43 | osfd | jeff_hann: ok |
| 13:01.55 | jeff_hann | dpkg -l | grep -i mysql |
| 13:01.55 | dpkg | ii | grep -i mysql 1.7-5.2 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 13:02.26 | jeff_hann | osfd, dpkg -l | grep -i mysql |
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| 13:03.37 | osfd | jeff_hann: http://pastebin.com/BUVQL2Nv |
| 13:04.24 | thewanderer1 | is the official Debian channel here or on some other network? |
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| 13:04.28 | osfd | jeff_hann: crashes |
| 13:04.34 | jeff_hann | osfd, ps aux | grep sql |
| 13:04.36 | grafdiffuzor | how to enable sound in usb headset on Squeeze/Gnome 2.30? Alsa detects headset as soundcard, but I don't know how to route sound to headset. |
| 13:05.10 | osfd | jeff_hann: olivier 17463 0.0 0.0 300 72 pts/2 R+ 14:05 0:00 grep sql |
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| 13:05.32 | jeff_hann | osfd, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 13:06.19 | osfd | jeff_hann: started and then amarok segmentation fault |
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| 13:07.20 | jeff_hann | osfd, remove the config files/folders again and at first configuration screen, select mysql DB as backend |
| 13:09.02 | cahoot | grafdiffuzor: it's card1 according to cat /proc/asound ? |
| 13:09.10 | cahoot | grafdiffuzor: it's card1 according to cat /proc/asound/cards ? |
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| 13:09.48 | grafdiffuzor | cahoot yes, headset have entry in /proc/asound/cards |
| 13:09.59 | osfd | jeff_hann: crashes |
| 13:10.02 | cahoot | as crad1 or what? |
| 13:10.14 | jeff_hann | osfd, ok, give some time |
| 13:10.22 | jeff_hann | *give me |
| 13:10.25 | grafdiffuzor | cahoot as "2 [Headset ]: USB-Audio - Logitech USB Headset" |
| 13:10.30 | osfd | jeff_hann: sure.. |
| 13:11.25 | cahoot | grafdiffuzor: ok so you tell your sound app to output to that card - hw:2 or such |
| 13:11.25 | grafdiffuzor | cahoot I can adjust it's PCM/Capture in alsamixer/gnome-volume-control, but still can't hear a sound from them ) |
| 13:11.49 | jeff_hann | osfd, try starting amarok with sudo |
| 13:12.00 | thewanderer1 | guys, I have KMail crashing saying it could not start Akonadi. and akonadi's mysql.err contains: http://paste.debian.net/103614/ |
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| 13:12.58 | osfd | jeff_hann: no X |
| 13:13.20 | jeff_hann | osfd, ??? |
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| 13:13.35 | a931bw_ | how do i mount ext4 partition? |
| 13:13.36 | a931bw_ | on etch |
| 13:13.40 | a931bw_ | squeeze*9* |
| 13:13.53 | thewanderer1 | well, I have 2 mysqld processes running with the same db file. them seem to belong to Akonadi. any ideas why? |
| 13:14.10 | jeff_hann | osfd, I meant start amarok from a terminal like 'sudo amarok' |
| 13:14.16 | osfd | jeff_hann: amarokapp: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
| 13:14.28 | bzrk_ | a931bw_: Debian Etch doesn't support Ext4 |
| 13:14.36 | a931bw_ | squeeze* |
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| 13:14.44 | bzrk_ | oh sorry |
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| 13:14.58 | thewanderer1 | a931bw_: mount -t ext4 /dev/partition /mnt/point ... |
| 13:15.05 | f8l | a931bw_: Just like other partitions... |
| 13:15.14 | jeff_hann | osfd, try rm -f ~/.xine and rm -rf /var/tmp/kdecache* |
| 13:15.32 | grafdiffuzor | cahoot I put "pcm.!default front:Headset" into .asoundrc and now I have sound, but it's a bit slowed down ) |
| 13:15.48 | thewanderer1 | soo now I have 3 mysql processes |
| 13:15.50 | thewanderer1 | this is madness |
| 13:16.24 | a931bw_ | thewanderer |
| 13:16.26 | a931bw_ | doesnt work\ |
| 13:16.34 | a931bw_ | i opens all commands avaible |
| 13:16.42 | abrotman | wonders why he needs -f at all ... |
| 13:16.56 | a931bw_ | wow |
| 13:17.09 | a931bw_ | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2.. |
| 13:17.25 | grafdiffuzor | cahoot strange, it's only in one application... |
| 13:17.30 | thewanderer1 | a931bw_: have you verified that the partition indeed contains an ext4 file system? |
| 13:17.33 | nozick | have anyone in here tried installing debian on a macbookpro7.1? i've tried both lenny(with a newer kernel) and squeeze and both of them cant "detect and mount cd-rom" or find firmware on removable media |
| 13:17.41 | a931bw_ | wander yes |
| 13:17.44 | grafdiffuzor | it's slowed down only in one application. In mplayer it's ok. |
| 13:17.44 | a931bw_ | it was used by ubuntu |
| 13:17.46 | a931bw_ | as ./home |
| 13:17.49 | abrotman | nozick: USB or actual CD ? |
| 13:17.55 | abrotman | a931bw_: which version of debian ? |
| 13:17.59 | nozick | abrotman: cd |
| 13:18.03 | osfd | jeff_hann: smells like shit |
| 13:18.11 | a931bw_ | squeeze |
| 13:18.13 | jeff_hann | osfd, meaning? |
| 13:18.14 | abrotman | nozick: try looking on the debina wiki or maybe ask #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net |
| 13:18.17 | bzrk_ | a931bw_: crypted home partition? |
| 13:18.38 | nozick | abrotman: okey, thanks |
| 13:18.39 | jeff_hann | osfd, I've been doing some digging around...what version of amarok are you using? |
| 13:18.44 | a931bw_ | no |
| 13:19.06 | osfd | 1.4 |
| 13:19.18 | jeff_hann | osfd, 1.4.? |
| 13:19.20 | f8l | a931bw_: Check if you have the latest mount. |
| 13:19.22 | jeff_hann | 1.4.3? |
| 13:19.34 | thewanderer1 | a931bw_: so what do you get in `dmesg | tail` after trying to mount? |
| 13:19.38 | f8l | a931bw_: Or check if there's something about ext4 in the manpage. |
| 13:19.42 | osfd | olivier@debian:~$ amarokapp --version |
| 13:19.43 | osfd | Qt: 3.3.8b |
| 13:19.44 | osfd | KDE: 3.5.10 |
| 13:19.46 | abrotman | anyone try 'fdisk -l /dev/sda' as root ? |
| 13:19.46 | osfd | Amarok: 1.4.10 |
| 13:19.56 | abrotman | osfd: don't paste in here, please .. use paste.debian.net |
| 13:20.03 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 13:20.06 | jeff_hann | osfd, from backports? |
| 13:20.13 | a931bw_ | thewanderer |
| 13:20.27 | thewanderer1 | a931bw_: if it's long, paste it to paste.debian.net |
| 13:20.35 | a931bw_ | how do i copy off xterm? |
| 13:20.37 | f8l | abrotman: Yes. Why do you ask? |
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| 13:20.44 | Azrael_- | i run lenny but after the upgrade to squeeze the file-system is directly mounted and treated as ext4. why? |
| 13:20.53 | thewanderer1 | a931bw_: hm, I suppose you mark text, then click with middle button where you want to paste it |
| 13:21.00 | f8l | a931bw_: Just select and then midclick where you want to paste it. |
| 13:21.07 | a931bw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.07 | osfd | jeff_hann: don't think so |
| 13:21.17 | a931bw_ | wrong :( |
| 13:21.23 | jeff_hann | osfd, no, I did a search |
| 13:21.32 | abrotman | ugh ... |
| 13:21.38 | osfd | abrotman: sorry sorry... |
| 13:21.39 | abrotman | a931bw_: i thought you said squeeze? |
| 13:21.45 | a931bw_ | yes |
| 13:21.51 | jeff_hann | osfd, it looks like there's a packaging bug, related to some compiler version incompatibility |
| 13:21.54 | a931bw_ | i've added them manually |
| 13:21.54 | abrotman | that's not squeeze .. that's sid and experimental |
| 13:22.01 | a931bw_ | i have sid as main |
| 13:22.05 | a931bw_ | these are additional |
| 13:22.13 | abrotman | a931bw_: fdisk -l /dev/sda or whatever the main device for your missing partition is |
| 13:22.16 | abrotman | in a pastebin |
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| 13:23.07 | martianlobster | Does anyone know how I can run last for december 29, 2010? When I just run last it says: wtmp begins Sat Jan 1 09:40:39 2011 |
| 13:23.23 | abrotman | man last? doesn't it let you specify a file ? |
| 13:24.06 | martianlobster | abrotman thanks |
| 13:24.10 | thewanderer1 | it seems that you would need to decompress an archived wtmp if it got compressed automatically, martianlobster |
| 13:24.11 | martianlobster | :) |
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| 13:24.32 | martianlobster | hmmm I guess this will be a trial and error thing |
| 13:25.40 | martianlobster | lol, it is pure giberish if I don't uncompress the file |
| 13:26.28 | jeff_hann | osfd, did you remove ~/.xine/ ? |
| 13:26.30 | martianlobster | got it, cp /var/log/wtmp.1.gz .; gunzip wtmp.1.gz; last -f wtmp.1 | less |
| 13:27.13 | a931bw_ | i can't copy |
| 13:27.15 | a931bw_ | but it is |
| 13:27.20 | a931bw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.27 | a931bw_ | sytem: Extended |
| 13:27.52 | thewanderer1 | a931bw_: one doesn't simply mount Extended partitions - they are containers for other partitions |
| 13:28.15 | a931bw_ | ? |
| 13:28.38 | thewanderer1 | a931bw_: there is no filesystem on that |
| 13:28.48 | a931bw_ | so files are gone> |
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| 13:29.12 | abrotman | a931bw_: no, it's /devsda |
| 13:29.15 | abrotman | erm .. /dev/sda |
| 13:29.37 | thewanderer1 | well first of all you are trying to mount the wrong partition, a931bw_ |
| 13:30.02 | abrotman | paste in a pastebin, fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 13:30.10 | a931bw_ | can't |
| 13:30.23 | abrotman | you can't why? |
| 13:30.31 | a931bw_ | xterm |
| 13:30.39 | abrotman | so? |
| 13:30.40 | a931bw_ | YES|! |
| 13:30.41 | a931bw_ | mounted it |
| 13:30.46 | abrotman | !pastebinit |
| 13:30.46 | dpkg | [pastebinit] a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". |
| 13:30.48 | a931bw_ | its /dev/sda5 |
| 13:31.08 | abrotman | see .. that's why fdisk -l /dev/sda would have helped .. would have saved you 10-15 minutes |
| 13:31.16 | a931bw_ | right |
| 13:31.20 | a931bw_ | now |
| 13:31.25 | a931bw_ | how do i make it default? /home |
| 13:31.32 | a931bw_ | mounted as home |
| 13:31.41 | a931bw_ | but what to write in fstab? |
| 13:32.08 | Azrael_- | http://pastebin.com/YYV9zDjv <-- why does pvscan tell me 686gb were already being used? |
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| 13:32.43 | thewanderer1 | Azrael_-: because it's assigned to a VG? |
| 13:33.32 | a931bw_ | reboot time |
| 13:33.34 | a931bw_ | wish me luck |
| 13:33.38 | Azrael_- | thewanderer1: but the vg is 2.67gb big, using it all up |
| 13:34.04 | thewanderer1 | Azrael_-: hmm, what does vgdisplay say? |
| 13:34.05 | FredrIQ|n900 | good luck a931bw_ |
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| 13:35.06 | Iridos | pulls out a doll looking like a931bw_s computer and sticks in a pin |
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| 13:35.42 | Azrael_- | thewanderer1: http://pastebin.com/HHAZ9xzY <-- the whole lvm is only 2.67tb big |
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| 13:36.19 | thewanderer1 | Azrael_-: so vgdisplay is right, while pvscan doesn't quite work right... |
| 13:36.34 | Azrael_- | kk |
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| 13:36.40 | Azrael_- | thx |
| 13:36.44 | Zearox | http://pastebin.ca/2036706 any ideas? |
| 13:36.51 | thewanderer1 | Azrael_-: I guess it's an integer issue... |
| 13:37.56 | Azrael_- | thewanderer1: thx |
| 13:37.57 | Iridos | "something weird happened" |
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| 13:38.08 | lucrfff | we |
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| 13:38.13 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
| 13:38.18 | lucrfff | perchè |
| 13:38.40 | Zearox | What does the logs tell you Iridos? |
| 13:38.45 | Zearox | Its not a sign of bad hdd? |
| 13:38.46 | lucrfff | sono nuovo nn so come funzioni |
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| 13:39.41 | Iridos | Zearox, what I said... something weird happened :-P ... no, not (necessarily) the disk, you just had a system crash |
| 13:39.41 | thewanderer1 | Zearox: you should see SMART stats first and then run some health checks |
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| 13:40.27 | thewanderer1 | "auto reallocate failed" - disks usually reallocate blocks when bad blocks appear, and when you run out of spare (hidden) blocks, this will appear |
| 13:40.31 | Iridos | Zearox, well, possibly... "Medium Error" is weird, too... but if it's the disk, you should get I/O errors, I'd say |
| 13:40.41 | lxsys | usb 1-1: firmware file rt2870.bin request failed (-2) |
| 13:40.46 | lxsys | how do i fix that? |
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| 13:41.04 | Iridos | thewanderer1, ah, ok, never seen that either... what's doing this relocating? |
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| 13:41.06 | Zearox | Iridos. Like 1113.734047] Buffer I/O error on device sda8, logical block 852029? :P |
| 13:41.13 | thewanderer1 | Iridos: the disk firmware itself |
| 13:41.16 | _joey | what is the easiest way to upgrade kernel to a higher version on lenny? |
| 13:41.17 | Iridos | Zearox, yeah, pretty much like that |
| 13:41.35 | Iridos | thewanderer1, so why would disk firmware produce kernel messages? |
| 13:41.54 | thewanderer1 | Iridos: it's passing them via the protocol, and the kernel receives the errors from the disk and produces error messages |
| 13:42.05 | Iridos | hm, fairysnuff |
| 13:42.13 | qq- | _joey, use backports |
| 13:42.18 | a931bw | Works! :) |
| 13:42.21 | a931bw | tiem for kde |
| 13:43.36 | _joey | i think it's to upgrade to another distro, similar to debian but more upto date |
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| 13:43.41 | thewanderer1 | lxsys: in Squeeze the firmware that you need is contained in firmware-ralink |
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| 13:43.50 | lxsys | thewanderer1: ok thanks :) |
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| 13:44.13 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, linux-next: next-20101231, snapshot 2.6: 2.6.37-rc8-git1, mainline 2.6: 2.6.37-rc8, stable 2.6.36: 2.6.36.2 , longterm 2.6.35: 2.6.35.10 , stable 2.6.35: 2.6.35.9 , longterm 2.6.34: 2.6.34.7 , stable 2.6.34: 2.6.34.7 , stable 2.6.33: 2.6.33.7 , longterm 2.6.32: 2.6.32.27 , stable 2.6.32: 2.6.32.27 , stable 2.6.31: 2.6.31.14 , longterm 2.6.27: 2.6.27.57 , stable 2.6.27: 2.6.27.57 , stable 2.4.37: 2.4.37.11 |
| 13:44.18 | Iridos | I didn't know you can "upgrade to another distro" |
| 13:44.21 | Iridos | but we live and learn |
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| 13:44.41 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.37-rc7-686 (2.6.37~rc7-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-29); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-29); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-29~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
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| 13:46.08 | lxsys | k unplugging dongle to plug in wifi adaptor. bbl if its not fixed. |
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| 13:56.04 | moka | hi, i have a Network Controller RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe. I read this wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/rt2860sta. I can see the net card in iwconfig but I can't set essid unless I specify before the ap address, but most important I can't set a simple WEP key (iwconfig wlan0 key s:blablabla). So before trying to install from source, does anyone have any hints? |
| 13:56.39 | versuchsanstalt | hi all. how can i collect a batch of jpg files into one pdf? |
| 13:56.58 | Bop | moka, try wicd |
| 13:57.01 | Bop | its gui |
| 13:57.22 | Iridos | how about setting the key not as string? |
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| 13:57.49 | moka | Bop, not working it stucks when authenticating so I guess it encounters the same problem |
| 13:58.02 | moka | Iridos, will try! |
| 13:58.41 | Iridos | how do you see it's not working? |
| 13:59.21 | Iridos | you could also try setting "enc restricted" |
| 13:59.22 | cahoot | versuchsanstalt: try convert *jpg my.pdf |
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| 13:59.27 | Iridos | or possibly enc open |
| 13:59.45 | Iridos | perhaps you have switched it to "off" and the driver doesn't automatically switch |
| 14:00.01 | moka | Iridos, I give the command (iwconfig wlan0 key s:blabla), I get no output like if it's working, but when i see iwconfig enc is set OFF |
| 14:00.02 | Iridos | there's all kinds of weird differences from wifi-driver to wifi-driver... |
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| 14:00.18 | Iridos | moka, well, set it to "open" or "restricted" |
| 14:01.08 | moka | Iridos, bingo! |
| 14:01.08 | Iridos | moka, also, it might only be showing something else but "off", when it's able to use the key successfully? |
| 14:01.32 | moka | Iridos, now the encription key appears! |
| 14:02.17 | Iridos | there we go |
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| 14:03.34 | moka | thank you!! |
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| 14:07.08 | versuchsanstalt | cahoot: thank you. |
| 14:07.53 | cahoot | np |
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| 14:15.35 | versuchsanstalt | cahoot: works great. and takes a whole lot of ram for my 220 jpg files, cough cough cough. but it'll work if i split the batch into some chunks etc. |
| 14:15.55 | versuchsanstalt | also move the job to a stronger machine than my gf's office box... ;-) |
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| 14:19.06 | cahoot | versuchsanstalt: I found a possibly smarter method |
| 14:19.39 | cahoot | versuchsanstalt: rename all the jpg's to pdf then join them with pdfjoin (untested here) |
| 14:20.12 | cga | versuchsanstalt: what are you trying to do? (just out of curiosity) |
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| 14:25.29 | Azrael_- | i want to run a socks-proxy on a server. what server software can you suggest me? |
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| 14:30.17 | abc_ | I have a com with 8Gb ram; but in debian only 4gb is avaible |
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| 14:30.53 | cahoot | looks like you want a 64bit system |
| 14:31.04 | Azrael_- | or a bigmem-kernel |
| 14:31.06 | Bop | or a bigmem kernel |
| 14:31.09 | Bop | xD |
| 14:31.12 | skinder | !tell skinder about hiragana |
| 14:31.13 | Azrael_- | :) |
| 14:31.15 | skinder | mmm |
| 14:31.21 | skinder | how do i write japanese? |
| 14:31.29 | skinder | !tell skinder about japanese |
| 14:31.55 | skinder | nothing there :( |
| 14:32.18 | guk | cant you set 32bit to like bigmem or something and like hack through that |
| 14:33.04 | abc_ | Azrael_-: ty ;) |
| 14:34.12 | Azrael_- | yw |
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| 14:34.35 | leejongwook | Does anyone have i3/i5/i7 with Debian ? |
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| 14:35.19 | Azrael_- | just setting up a i7 920 |
| 14:35.41 | abc_ | leejongwook: I have i5 |
| 14:35.45 | leejongwook | I can run Debian with i3/i5/i7, right ? |
| 14:35.55 | Azrael_- | ofc |
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| 14:36.27 | leejongwook | Azrael_-: Which one Debian-i64 ? |
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| 14:36.45 | leejongwook | s/i64/ia64 |
| 14:36.59 | Azrael_- | upgraded from plain lenny to squeeze |
| 14:36.59 | llutz | leejongwook: no, ia64 is itanium, use amd64 |
| 14:37.35 | leejongwook | I see, amd64 :) // abc_: Did you install Debian-amd64 too ? |
| 14:37.48 | leejongwook | llutz: Thanks :) |
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| 14:38.31 | leejongwook | Azrael_-: abc_: Thanks, Debian-amd64 would be awesome :) |
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| 14:39.24 | abc_ | Azrael_-: is i5 a 64-bit proccessor ?? |
| 14:40.00 | sy | os it ? |
| 14:40.03 | leejongwook | I have no idea which ones are 64 processors. |
| 14:41.34 | abc_ | I have 4*2GB ram; does i5 support 4 ram ???? |
| 14:41.47 | jeff_hann | abc_, yes |
| 14:41.57 | jeff_hann | and 64-bit OSs |
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| 14:42.07 | jeff_hann | as are all i series |
| 14:42.11 | jeff_hann | *as do |
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| 14:42.42 | leejongwook | abc_: Intel's Intel 64 extensions (used in newer Celeron, Pentium 4, Pentium D, Xeon, Core 2, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, and Atom processors) - from wiki |
| 14:42.42 | hid3 | Hello everyone. Why does `ntpdate` takes ~8 seconds to sync time on squeeze while it takes only a second to do the same on lenny? |
| 14:43.27 | leejongwook | Thanks all :) happy new year@all |
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| 14:44.52 | sy | abc_, http://www.intel.com/products/processor/corei5/specifications.htm |
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| 15:11.39 | ham5 | grr, what changed in testing i cant boot the new kernel 2.6.36.2, it says gave up waiting for root device, can boot my 2.6.35.4 kernel fine, I tried downgrading my grub to stable. anyone can help off the top of their head i would much appriciate it |
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| 15:15.18 | robokop | ham5: what is the fstype of your root fs |
| 15:15.32 | ham5 | 3 |
| 15:16.38 | nsadmin | "the new kernel" was obtained or produced how? |
| 15:17.08 | ham5 | i was running it fine before i had to reboot, but i built it. |
| 15:17.20 | nsadmin | "How many hands do you have on your shoulders?" "Yes!" |
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| 15:17.48 | robokop | you compiled it yourself? |
| 15:18.07 | ziroux | lol |
| 15:18.27 | robokop | well, do you have all the necessary drivers as modules in your initramfs/compiled in the kernel |
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| 15:19.27 | ham5 | well i must of, it worked before... I do use a initramfs. |
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| 15:23.14 | zophy | man, lenny turned out to be a pile of crap |
| 15:23.47 | ham5 | opinion... |
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| 15:23.55 | zophy | i'm glad they pushed it out the door |
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| 15:29.32 | SiRiLo | Hello, I need to install the driver broadcom 4322 can someone help me |
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| 15:32.15 | karlpinc | zophy: What is the prolem with lenny? You have <sns>? |
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| 15:32.42 | karlpinc | SiRiLo: I know there's help on the debian wiki.... |
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| 15:34.52 | SiRiLo | kalpinc |
| 15:35.10 | SiRiLo | I will try thanks |
| 15:35.56 | karlpinc | SiRiLo: You can try again here later. |
| 15:35.58 | zophy | karlpinc, oh man, monodevelop wouldn't run, the ath5k driver didn;t work, the nvidia drivers are old, squeeze works well for all that |
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| 15:36.51 | SiRiLo | karlpinc: ok obrigado |
| 15:36.54 | SiRiLo | ok tanks |
| 15:36.56 | SiRiLo | rs |
| 15:37.01 | SiRiLo | iam brazil |
| 15:37.11 | karlpinc | !br |
| 15:37.11 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 15:37.17 | karlpinc | SiRiLo: (FYI) |
| 15:37.56 | SiRiLo | yes i'm it |
| 15:40.26 | dadrian | hello, i updated from kernel 2.18 to 2.26 and now i my network card isn't detected anymore, i also get a warning at start that modprobe.conf doesn't include modprobe.d |
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| 15:42.21 | stew | zophy: monodevelop doesn't run in lenny? |
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| 15:43.04 | stew | zophy: and nobody has filed a bug about this in the last 2 year? |
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| 15:46.03 | stew | zophy: the nvidia driver that lenny was released with was current at the time lenny was frozen. not much that could have been done about htat |
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| 15:47.33 | zophy | stew, i know, isn't that crappy ? |
| 15:47.55 | stew | ? |
| 15:48.12 | stew | crappy that lenny was frozen with the latest available nvidia drivers? |
| 15:48.45 | stew | and because of this you are glad that it was "pushed out the door"? |
| 15:48.46 | zophy | stew, yep, i think so |
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| 15:49.18 | stew | zophy: what do you mean by "pushed out the door"? do you mean rushed? |
| 15:49.41 | zophy | stew, i mean gotten rid of |
| 15:49.51 | stew | lenny has not been gotten rid of |
| 15:50.06 | stew | its still the current debian release |
| 15:50.17 | zophy | i guess if you backport everything it might be useable |
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| 15:50.27 | stew | its quite usable |
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| 16:00.59 | cirwin | I've been seeing errors like this a lot for the past few months when install python libraries: http://dpaste.org/kvTj/, how do I fix it? |
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| 16:01.37 | fix | Mr Torvalds will require felatio to pay for this consultation |
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| 16:04.02 | jeff_hann | cirwin, did you report a bug? also what Debian are you running? |
| 16:05.30 | stew | fix: please keep your comments constructive |
| 16:06.10 | babilen | cirwin: You have a locally installed python2.6 (in /usr/local) which messes with your system. Which version of Debian do you use? |
| 16:06.13 | fix | oh im sorry, I did not realize you were an hero |
| 16:06.16 | stew | cirwin: the fact that your tracebacks include /usr/local/lib means that you have non-debian software which is probably causing problems |
| 16:06.20 | cirwin | ahh |
| 16:06.30 | cirwin | yes, i installed a python ages ago to test with |
| 16:06.35 | cirwin | how do I get rid of that? |
| 16:07.01 | fix | type this rm -rf * |
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| 16:07.14 | stew | don't type that, obviously |
| 16:07.26 | cirwin | yes, I'm not totally new to this :p |
| 16:07.58 | cirwin | is there a command to type? or do I just have to unpick the old install manually? |
| 16:08.45 | Pinchiukas | Anyone wanna tell me what these messages mean: http://pastebin.com/G3dT4Kdu ? This is from the CUPS error_log when trying to do something from a Windows box (open the properties dialog and such). |
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| 16:09.29 | babilen | cirwin: I am not sure right now if Python ships with an "uninstall" make target -- you might want to try that. Otherwise remove it manually from /usr/local (make sure that you don't remove anything else though) |
| 16:10.15 | babilen | cirwin: And I would suggest to use stow (/msg dpkg stow) in the future to ease handling of installations to /usr/local |
| 16:10.16 | cirwin | ok. It doesn't — I just checked |
| 16:10.18 | stew | UFAILzz: don't irc as root, use a non-privileged user account. you won't be able to speak in here |
| 16:10.26 | cirwin | I will investigate that |
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| 16:12.03 | fixjack | not allowing root is lame |
| 16:12.22 | fixjack | omgzors someones going to hax0r me coz i loggd into irc as root! oh noooz |
| 16:12.53 | cirwin | babilen: is there a command I can use to see which files apt expects to be in that directory? |
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| 16:13.34 | babilen | cirwin: /usr/local is not managed by apt (that is the whole idea behing /usr/local) |
| 16:13.46 | cirwin | ah, cool |
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| 16:14.11 | stew | fix: fixjack: please don't evade bans on this network |
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| 16:15.40 | cirwin | woohoo! thank you babilen |
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| 16:15.44 | fixer | u fail |
| 16:15.58 | cirwin | I didn't know about the directory prefix thing, I'll use that from now on |
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| 16:16.44 | babilen | !tell fixer -about fhs |
| 16:16.54 | babilen | !tell cirwin -about fhs |
| 16:17.00 | babilen | :-\ |
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| 16:23.26 | SiRiLo | karlpinc: managed to install the interface, tnks |
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| 16:24.26 | SiRiLo | karlpinc: I'm installing kde fluxbox is very simple |
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| 16:26.17 | sk0rv | its an odd question in a debian channel... but for a server.... should i consider debian or stick to ubuntu? |
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| 16:27.01 | babilen | skorv: Debian is fine and used on many servers in production settings. |
| 16:27.23 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 16:27.44 | skorv | i use ubuntu desktop and its a natural choice to consider debian for a server... |
| 16:28.04 | ginet | there is also ubuntu-server |
| 16:28.28 | skorv | i'm having problems with ubuntu server distro... keeps crashing dhcp when in multiple lans (3 NIC setup, 2 lans) |
| 16:28.34 | stew | skorv: not suprisingly, we tend to prefer debian. if you are comfortable with ubuntu and it is working well for you, there is probably not a lot you'd gain by switching to debian. the LTS releases of ubuntu an be beneficial if you are going to be happy with sticking with the same release of ubuntu for many years. debian might be better if you plan to upgrade with each new release |
| 16:29.02 | babilen | ginet: (I know this is getting off-topic, but) How does it differ from "plain" Ubuntu? |
| 16:29.32 | skorv | i had a ubuntu-server up since 3 years ago but i'm radically changing my network |
| 16:29.52 | skorv | so i need 2 lans instead of just 1 for security purposes |
| 16:30.24 | stew | skorv: i'd not suspect something like dhcp to crash no matter what distro you are using. |
| 16:30.28 | ginet | babilen i only know of its existence |
| 16:30.40 | MrOpposite | I hate having ancient debian... |
| 16:30.40 | skorv | as soon as i installed ubuntu-server in that environment the dhcp3-server just stalls |
| 16:30.45 | skorv | after x time |
| 16:31.00 | ginet | i am happy that i still could install sarge on a raq |
| 16:31.00 | skorv | an i need to reboot so it comes alive again |
| 16:31.30 | skorv | i'm going to try debian 5 to see if that problem is solved.... the configurations should be about the same |
| 16:31.42 | skorv | after all vyatta is debian based :P |
| 16:31.48 | skorv | thanks for the help |
| 16:31.50 | babilen | MrOpposite: Don't use it then. |
| 16:31.56 | ginet | i wonder how smooth it will be to upgradde to debian 6 |
| 16:31.59 | MrOpposite | I can't NOT use it... |
| 16:32.04 | babilen | skorv: No problem, let us know if you need help :) |
| 16:32.55 | babilen | ginet: You can take a look at the release notes of Squeeze. |
| 16:33.00 | MrOpposite | It's on an embeded device |
| 16:33.07 | MrOpposite | with custom built libc6 |
| 16:33.22 | ginet | babilen yes well, i try to put ity off I have 38 debian machine srunning here |
| 16:33.48 | ginet | i might have a look though |
| 16:33.56 | babilen | ginet: Squeeze has not yet been released though, so you have plenty of time to plan the uprade. |
| 16:33.59 | ginet | if it were just apt-get upgrade id be happy |
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| 16:34.16 | babilen | It is a bit more involved than that :) |
| 16:34.22 | czesmir | when Squeeze will be frozen? |
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| 16:34.35 | stew | czesmir: it was frozen this past august |
| 16:34.36 | babilen | czesmir: It is in deep freeze right now |
| 16:34.56 | czesmir | i know but when finally ? |
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| 16:35.04 | stew | ? |
| 16:35.04 | Vixxo | babilen, seemd to be that the relase was close.. |
| 16:35.08 | stew | czesmir: now? |
| 16:35.15 | stew | czesmir: its been frozen for months now |
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| 16:35.25 | czesmir | oh |
| 16:35.25 | cahoot | czesmir: you mean released? |
| 16:35.29 | czesmir | yep |
| 16:35.30 | babilen | I guess czesmir means "released" |
| 16:35.41 | stew | czesmir: soon |
| 16:35.43 | MrOpposite | Is it possible to check what proccesses using a certain mount? |
| 16:35.57 | babilen | MrOpposite: lsof, fuser, ... |
| 16:36.08 | stew | MrOpposite: fuser -m /path/to/mountpoint |
| 16:36.12 | MrOpposite | oh |
| 16:36.13 | MrOpposite | right |
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| 16:48.56 | satellit_ | anyone : how do I make a liveUSB from debian-squeeze-live-beta2-i386-gnome-desktop.iso? (possibly with persistence) |
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| 16:51.05 | jhutchins_lt | satellit_: Not a request we get very often here. I think there's a guide at http://pendrivelinux.org, and possibly more info on the forums at the live site. |
| 16:51.12 | jhutchins_lt | !live |
| 16:51.12 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. As of squeeze, the images can be installed with d-i. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAQ http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.oftc.net. A preview of the squeeze live image is at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_live_beta1/ |
| 16:51.28 | jhutchins_lt | !live usb |
| 16:53.09 | satellit_ | jhutchins_lt: I was hoping for a tool to make one from linuxmint-debian-201101-gnome-dvd-i386.iso (uses debian testing) |
| 16:53.14 | streuner | dpkg, listkeys usb |
| 16:53.16 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'usb' by key (15 of 111): #debian usb_storage ;; #debian-bots uk usb keyboards ;; _default speedtouch usb ;; _default udev usbkey ;; at76usb ;; orinoco usb ;; qc-usb ;; rt2500usb ;; rt73usb ;; slusb ;; usb backport ;; usb cdburner ;; usbboot ;; wusb11 ;; wusb54gp. |
| 16:53.33 | jhutchins_lt | satellit_: Mint is not debian and is not supported here. |
| 16:54.03 | satellit_ | I know....just asking as it uses debian squeeze |
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| 16:55.26 | jhutchins_lt | satellit_: What would the point of calling it Mint be if it were debian? It's not, it just uses packages from debian. We don't support it, we can't, we don't know what changes they make or how they effect the debian components. |
| 16:55.28 | stew | satellit_: why not download one of the usb images instead? |
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| 16:55.58 | stew | satellit_: oh, wait, i was talking about debian-live, not mint |
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| 16:56.39 | stew | satellit_: mint support channel is on another network, see /msg dpkg mint |
| 16:56.54 | satellit_ | I have done that and the debian-live-507-i386-gnome-desktop.img works well as dd to usb boots nicely |
| 16:57.50 | satellit_ | I have asked on SpotChat #linuxmint-debian but thought you had more expertise...: ) |
| 16:58.21 | stew | satellit_: we don't support mint at all. and its unlikely that we'd have more expertise with mint than the mint support channel |
| 16:58.22 | satellit_ | thanks..... |
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| 16:59.51 | guampa | hello buddies, i need help, having a weird issue: tcp isn't working at all on eth0. icmp and udp work, i can ping the router and get dhcp from it. BUT i can't reach its admin page for example. Iptables are all flushed and -P ACCEPT, and the card works ok in a livecd |
| 17:00.05 | satellit_ | stew I am testing for sugarlabs.org using aptitude install sucrose-0.88 (sugar-desktop) works well on squeeze thanks |
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| 17:03.48 | B0o-supermario | Where is your bot guys? |
| 17:05.18 | stew | B0o-supermario: we have multiple. the most commonly used are dpkg and judd, which do different things. are you wanting to know the bots or the software behind them? or both? |
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| 17:05.43 | B0o-supermario | Both |
| 17:05.47 | B0o-supermario | Hehe |
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| 17:06.57 | stew | B0o-supermario: dpkg is based on infobot (/msg dpkg infobot) judd is some costom plugins on top of supybot |
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| 17:15.06 | jhutchins_lt | guampa: What admin page? |
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| 17:17.50 | cheasee | oh noes.. again.. i pressed ctrl+a s by mistake (i think) and "locked" my screen session, what was the combination to unfreeze it? im googling for unlock but all i find is ctrl+a x and using password to unlock |
| 17:18.13 | B0o-supermario | Plug off |
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| 17:18.37 | robokop | cheasee: ^a q |
| 17:18.57 | cheasee | robokop, tried already, doesnt work -.- |
| 17:19.12 | B0o-supermario | :_ |
| 17:19.29 | guampa | need help, having a weird issue with tcp not working at all on eth0. icmp and udp do work (i can ping the router and get dhcp from it). BUT i can't reach its admin page for example. Iptables are all flushed and -P ACCEPT, and the card works ok in a livecd |
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| 17:20.38 | jhutchins_lt | guampa: What admin page? |
| 17:20.57 | jhutchins_lt | guampa: No need to repeat the question. |
| 17:21.09 | guampa | jhutchins_lt: the router's admin page |
| 17:22.10 | jhutchins_lt | guampa: They're usually not on port 80. |
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| 17:22.26 | jhutchins_lt | guampa: dd-wrt runs them on https://<host>:8080 |
| 17:22.35 | d9500 | with debian squeeze including a kernel with no nonfree firmware blobs, does that change also apply to sid? i looked in my /lib/firmware directory earlier and it had only two subfolders, far less than i've seen on other distros. |
| 17:22.37 | homie | erm, why is drkonqi not to be found in /usr/bin actually ? |
| 17:22.44 | B0o-supermario | 192.168.1.1 |
| 17:22.53 | guampa | jhutchins_lt: i'm afraid it's tcp, the router does listen on tcp/80 and can be accessed from other box and a livecd on this same box |
| 17:22.59 | jhutchins_lt | homie: No idea. locate, dpkg -L, etc. |
| 17:23.08 | homie | it resides in /usr/lib/kde4/libexec, i had to manually smylink it to /usr/bin |
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| 17:23.34 | stew | d9500: yes, the same applies to sid. squeeze gets its kernels from sid, currently they have the same kernel |
| 17:23.43 | jhutchins_lt | guampa: What chipset? |
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| 17:25.21 | d9500 | stew: thanks! so now i know two things. first, my system functions fine with a libre kernel (i did wish it had nouveau instead of nv, but afaik debian's decision on that was practical and not philosohpical; once nouveau moves from staging they will include it) and two--i'm now one package away from a completely libre system. |
| 17:25.23 | guampa | jhutchins_lt: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06) |
| 17:25.41 | jhutchins_lt | That's not broadcom, that's realtec. |
| 17:25.52 | jhutchins_lt | !rtl8168 |
| 17:26.09 | jhutchins_lt | !rtl8111 |
| 17:26.15 | jhutchins_lt | !realtec |
| 17:26.23 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg: Boo! |
| 17:26.23 | dpkg | dies from a heart attack thanks to jhutchins_lt |
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| 17:26.31 | jhutchins_lt | !wifi |
| 17:26.31 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <brcm80211>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <iwlwifi>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 17:26.40 | jhutchins_lt | !realtek |
| 17:26.40 | dpkg | Realtek is a developer of semiconductors. For Ethernet chipset information, ask me about <rtl8029>, <rtl8139>, <rtl8101e>, <rtl8211c>, <rtl8168d>. For wireless LAN chipset information, ask me about <rtl-wifi>, <rtl819x>. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
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| 17:28.06 | homie | d9500: you get a lot of firmwares when you install the firmware-linux package or so |
| 17:28.25 | homie | d9500: actually i did that and afterwards removed most things anyway... |
| 17:29.02 | d9500 | homie: i just ran dpkg --get-selections | grep firmware-linux and it returned nothing |
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| 17:30.24 | homie | d9500: apt-cache show firmware-linux not dpkg --get-selections ! |
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| 17:31.07 | homie | d9500: it means firmware-linux is not installed in your system if dpkg tells you nothing about it |
| 17:31.13 | d9500 | homie: that returns "Can't select versions from package 'firmware-linux' as it purely virtual" |
| 17:31.42 | d9500 | homie: i only have debian main and aptosid main as sources. the firmware isn't in those repos? |
| 17:32.32 | jhutchins_lt | !aptosid |
| 17:32.32 | dpkg | aptosid (formerly sidux) is a live distribution <based on Debian> Sid. It is not supported in #debian. http://aptosid.com/ #aptosid on irc.oftc.net. |
| 17:32.39 | jeff_hann | !b43 |
| 17:32.39 | dpkg | [b43] the driver for modern Broadcom 802.11b/g PCI/PCI-E wireless LAN chipsets, included in Linux since 2.6.24. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide. 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by <b43legacy>. BCM4313/4321/4322/43224/43225 (all 802.11n) are not supported, ask me about <brcm80211>, <wl>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net. |
| 17:32.50 | jhutchins_lt | !based on debian |
| 17:32.50 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 17:33.44 | Moult-remote | i just installed finch and noticed it doesn't have an msn protocol on its list - ideas? |
| 17:34.41 | jhutchins_lt | !versions finch |
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| 17:34.51 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions finch |
| 17:34.53 | judd | Package finch on i386 -- etch-backports: 2.4.3-4lenny5~bpo40+1; lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-backports: 2.7.3-1~bpo50+2; squeeze: 2.7.3-1+squeeze1; sid: 2.7.7-1 |
| 17:34.54 | Moult-remote | also, how can i list recommended packages with finch? perhaps i missed something |
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| 17:35.16 | Moult-remote | i've got the latest |
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| 17:35.42 | jhutchins_lt | Moult-remote: msn changes protocol periodically - some say to defeat 3rd party software. Try the version from backports. |
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| 17:37.28 | d9500 | jhutchins_lt, thanks. homie provided me with the information i needed, though. but since aptosid is its own distro, are there no iso's of sid? i only see stable and testing offered on http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 17:37.30 | Moult-remote | jhutchins_lt: i'm not familiar with debian, i'll have to learn how to use backports |
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| 17:38.01 | stew | Moult-remote: there are instructions at http://backports.debian.org |
| 17:38.05 | Moult-remote | aha thank you |
| 17:38.06 | jhutchins_lt | d9500: sid is arguably not an actual release, it is the pool of software that feeds into testing. |
| 17:39.02 | jhutchins_lt | d9500: Given that the testing release has an installer that's still in beta... |
| 17:39.05 | Moult-remote | so backports is kinda like "stable testing"? |
| 17:39.22 | homie | yep |
| 17:39.25 | jhutchins_lt | !bdo |
| 17:39.25 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo key> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo kernel> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <volatile>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 17:39.33 | jhutchins_lt | !backports |
| 17:39.33 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>, <volatile>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 17:40.07 | Moult-remote | aha |
| 17:40.14 | Moult-remote | so it's testing, without having to pull in other testing deps? |
| 17:40.44 | d9500 | jhutchins_lt: so to get the official sid packages, i would need to--install testing, upgrade the system with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, add sid's repo/s, drop to init 3, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, then apt-get clean and reboot to load the new kernel? |
| 17:40.48 | jhutchins_lt | Moult-remote: That's the goal, and standards for backports are pretty strict, they shouldn't overtly break anything. |
| 17:40.58 | Moult-remote | aha |
| 17:41.05 | Moult-remote | sounds a bit like ~arch on gentoo |
| 17:41.26 | jhutchins_lt | Moult-remote: individual apps are stable, but you don't want to try installing everything backports offers just because it's new, that's an untested combination. |
| 17:41.59 | jhutchins_lt | d9500: Something like that. |
| 17:42.01 | jhutchins_lt | !sid |
| 17:42.01 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 17:42.13 | jhutchins_lt | !unstable |
| 17:42.14 | dpkg | [unstable] The status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges (!) See also <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>, <apt-listbugs>, <apt-listchanges>, <bts>. |
| 17:42.22 | Moult-remote | jhutchins_lt: cheers |
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| 17:45.20 | Moult-remote | what is the difference between backports.debian.org and backports.org/debian? |
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| 17:45.35 | Jarvis | edont they lead to the same place ? |
| 17:45.44 | Jarvis | *-e |
| 17:45.51 | stew | Moult-remote: backports.debian.org replaces backports.org/debian now that backports is managed by debian |
| 17:46.03 | Jarvis | aha |
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| 17:46.11 | d9500 | jhutchins_lt: thanks. i'll keep that in mind if i want the official packages. and thanks for the tip on the aptosid irc on oftc. |
| 17:46.20 | JakDaRippa | i'm want to be able to access my pc (debian) from my g/f's house (win7). basically streaming video. what is the best way to do this? |
| 17:46.30 | d9500 | bye for the moment |
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| 17:57.21 | Moult-remote | stew: so having both backport lines wouldn't cause any side effects? because i've had both for a while now |
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| 18:08.42 | darkkrai | hey hey |
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| 18:10.12 | darkkrai | I'd really love to get my wifi working _properly_ I have an Intel Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250 wifi chip |
| 18:10.25 | darkkrai | I'm on Debian Squeeze, x64 |
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| 18:13.00 | beardy | !fml |
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| 18:16.30 | darkkrai | anyone? |
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| 18:18.21 | Posterdati | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:20.25 | Posterdati | eject works fine |
| 18:20.49 | jordanm | is your user in the cdrom group? |
| 18:20.57 | Posterdati | yes |
| 18:21.09 | Posterdati | I burned cds and dvds before |
| 18:21.57 | Posterdati | /dev/sr0 disappeared |
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| 18:22.52 | Posterdati | [633791.625820] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/12x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray |
| 18:22.52 | Posterdati | [633791.627313] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 |
| 18:23.17 | dmoen | . |
| 18:23.21 | Posterdati | inserted cds or dvds isn't recognized |
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| 18:24.16 | jordanm | Posterdati: does it work with wodim as root? |
| 18:24.18 | jhutchins_lt | Posterdati: What release, what DE? |
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| 18:24.30 | jhutchins_lt | Posterdati: Have you rebooted since this happened? |
| 18:24.38 | Posterdati | jordanm: no |
| 18:24.46 | Posterdati | jhutchins: I can't reboot now |
| 18:24.58 | jhutchins_lt | Posterdati: What release, what DE? |
| 18:25.14 | Posterdati | I'm on squeeze |
| 18:25.31 | Posterdati | Linux ATHLON64 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 10 15:35:08 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 18:26.01 | jhutchins_lt | Posterdati: Did you miss some part of "squeeze isn't stable"? |
| 18:26.05 | jhutchins_lt | Posterdati: gnome? |
| 18:26.16 | Posterdati | jhutchins: kde |
| 18:26.25 | Posterdati | jhutchins_lt: kde |
| 18:26.31 | jhutchins_lt | Got it, they're both me. |
| 18:26.48 | Posterdati | jhutchins: ok |
| 18:26.54 | jhutchins_lt | Can you re-start kde? |
| 18:27.05 | Posterdati | no I can't now |
| 18:27.15 | Posterdati | [627421.094554] cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize! |
| 18:27.15 | Posterdati | [627599.745154] cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize! |
| 18:27.15 | Posterdati | [628440.461091] INFO: task wodim:7913 blocked for more than 120 seconds. |
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| 18:27.23 | Posterdati | when I reinserted the dvd I burned |
| 18:27.36 | jhutchins_lt | Yeah, something's crashed and monopolized the hardware. |
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| 18:27.51 | Posterdati | but burning was ok |
| 18:28.01 | jhutchins_lt | Yeah, something's crashed and monopolized the hardware. |
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| 18:28.17 | Posterdati | now there's no 7913 running |
| 18:28.52 | jhutchins_lt | Posterdati: I would just reboot it myself, I'm not sure which components might have been handling the hardware, but they're not any more. |
| 18:29.00 | jhutchins_lt | Posterdati: It's not a removable USB drive? |
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| 18:29.10 | bzrk_ | jhutchins_lt: maybe check with lsof before reboot if theres aprocess left |
| 18:29.16 | Posterdati | no a sata dvd reader/burner |
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| 18:29.27 | kryl | hi |
| 18:29.31 | jhutchins_lt | Posterdati: Well, sata supports hotplug. |
| 18:29.32 | Posterdati | lsof | grep sr0 gave nothing |
| 18:29.38 | bzrk_ | Posterdati: ah ok |
| 18:29.50 | Posterdati | I can't reboot |
| 18:30.09 | Posterdati | anyway dvd is bad, no usable data on it :( |
| 18:30.16 | bzrk_ | Posterdati: do "real" cds play? |
| 18:30.25 | Posterdati | wait |
| 18:30.27 | bzrk_ | like a movie dvd or cd |
| 18:30.31 | kryl | I have a server who crash every two days, I'm looking for any advice on how to check if it's an hardware problem or other (kernel bug ?) I check normal logs for services and there is nothing special that can help me |
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| 18:31.25 | Posterdati | bzrk_: dvd drive would not even flash the led when just inserted a cd |
| 18:31.54 | bzrk_ | Posterdati: ah thats not nice, cables are all connected safely i guess= |
| 18:32.14 | Posterdati | bzrk_: machine worked until I burned that dvd |
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| 18:32.41 | Posterdati | eject |
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| 18:32.47 | Posterdati | is working |
| 18:33.00 | bzrk_ | Posterdati: reload kernel module sr_mod? |
| 18:33.09 | Posterdati | done, no way |
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| 18:33.48 | Posterdati | [633791.625820] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/12x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray |
| 18:33.48 | Posterdati | [633791.627313] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 |
| 18:33.48 | Posterdati | [634449.901765] sr0: CDROM (ioctl) error, command: Xpwrite, Read disk info 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 |
| 18:33.48 | Posterdati | [634449.901775] sr: Sense Key : Hardware Error [current] |
| 18:33.48 | Posterdati | [634449.901778] sr: ASC=0x3e <<vendor>> ASCQ=0xe3 |
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| 18:33.53 | nirazio | Is there any way to consolidate multiple .Trash directories ?? |
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| 18:34.03 | Posterdati | sorry |
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| 18:34.41 | jordanm | nirazio: you mean like have multiple users share the same .Trash? |
| 18:34.43 | bzrk_ | Posterdati: using hald? |
| 18:34.52 | Posterdati | yes |
| 18:34.57 | bzrk_ | tried to restart that? |
| 18:35.00 | bzrk_ | or kill it |
| 18:35.06 | Posterdati | yes |
| 18:35.48 | Posterdati | floppy led flashing, dvd reader dead |
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| 18:35.55 | bzrk_ | Posterdati: hm ok then im out of ideas except for the good old restart with fingers crossed fix |
| 18:36.17 | nirazio | jordanm: I have a seperate data partition with a functioning .Trash directory. But ~/.local/share/Trash is the only directory seen by trash:/// in nautilus..Is there any way to consolidate these .Trash directories ?? |
| 18:36.19 | jordanm | Posterdati: wodim dev=/dev/sr0 file.iso |
| 18:36.24 | bzrk_ | maybe you are really unlucky and the drive hardware just went bad for real |
| 18:36.24 | jordanm | Posterdati: what error does it give? |
| 18:36.39 | Blitzmerker | hi, how can I create a home directory for an existing user? |
| 18:36.46 | Posterdati | wodim: Sorry, no supported CD/DVD-Recorder found on this target. |
| 18:36.50 | kryl | my server crash without logs that can help to fix the problem, is there a way to set this system more verbose ? |
| 18:36.52 | Posterdati | jordanm: wodim: Sorry, no supported CD/DVD-Recorder found on this target. |
| 18:37.24 | jordanm | nirazio: you can bind mount the .Trash directory from the data partition. this does not consolidate them but allows use of the one on the data partition |
| 18:37.30 | Posterdati | vendor_info and other fields are full of garbage chars |
| 18:37.40 | jordanm | nirazio: probably should have used LVM and added your data partition to /home |
| 18:37.43 | Posterdati | jordanm: vendor_info and other fields are full of garbage chars |
| 18:37.49 | jordanm | as /home really is your data partition anyways |
| 18:38.09 | jordanm | Posterdati: bzrk's reboot suggestion |
| 18:38.27 | Posterdati | jordanm: I can't reboot |
| 18:38.35 | jordanm | Posterdati: why is that? |
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| 18:38.46 | nirazio | jordanm: Can you explain me how to do that? |
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| 18:38.51 | Posterdati | jordanm: I've got sveral services on it now |
| 18:39.04 | jordanm | nirazio: bind mount? |
| 18:39.12 | nirazio | Yes |
| 18:39.36 | jordanm | nirazio: mount --bind source destination |
| 18:39.41 | jhutchins_lt | Posterdati: I don't think you're gonna get that drive back without reinitializing the hardware. I'm not even sure a warm boot is going to work. |
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| 18:40.02 | Posterdati | jhutchins: warm boot will fix it |
| 18:40.09 | jordanm | Posterdati: its a production server? |
| 18:40.26 | jhutchins_lt | jordanm: Can't be, he's running squeeze on it. |
| 18:40.33 | Posterdati | jordanm: it's an assembled PC class server |
| 18:40.36 | bzrk_ | Posterdati: if you are desperate you could try hotplugging the drive |
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| 18:40.57 | Posterdati | bzrk_: I'm not oging to open it |
| 18:41.14 | jordanm | Posterdati: if its remotely important services a) don't use it as your desktop b) don't run squeeze on it |
| 18:41.19 | nirazio | jordanm: What it does??? |
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| 18:41.26 | jhutchins_lt | Posterdati: You're not going to burn any CD's on it then. |
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| 18:41.38 | jhutchins_lt | Why would you use a server for tasks like burning CD's? |
| 18:42.01 | Posterdati | because I've only this computer to do that now |
| 18:42.53 | jordanm | nirazio: you could consider it like creating a symlink from trash A to trash B, only bind mounting will go "over top" of the existing data making it inaccessible |
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| 18:44.26 | nirazio | jordanm: I am newer to linux..Can you say me what should i give in source and destination?? |
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| 18:45.21 | jordanm | nirazio: source is the data partition trash directory and the destination is the home directory trash directory |
| 18:45.50 | guampa | need help, having a weird issue with tcp not working at all on eth0. icmp and udp do work (i can ping the router and get dhcp from it). BUT i can't reach the router admin page for example. Iptables are all flushed and -P ACCEPT, the card works ok in a livecd |
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| 18:47.29 | Jarvis | guampa: can you pastebin the outputs from ifconfig -a and route -n |
| 18:47.33 | guampa | i'm suspicious of some bad sysctl config, but i don't know how to tell |
| 18:47.43 | guampa | Jarvis: right on |
| 18:47.53 | Jarvis | guampa: which sysctl config in particular ? |
| 18:48.40 | guampa | Jarvis: i wouldn't know exactly, but it seems odd that only tcp breaks |
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| 18:49.14 | Jarvis | guampa: in that case pastebin your sysctl.conf as well :p |
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| 18:49.34 | guampa | http://pastebin.com/dRjFf76j |
| 18:49.41 | jordanm | guampa: from what you have described, it could easily be faulty network equipment |
| 18:49.51 | guampa | and this is sysctl -a http://pastebin.com/addU3nWu |
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| 18:50.02 | Posterdati | jordanm: is a libata problem |
| 18:50.19 | jordanm | Posterdati: how were you able to discover that? |
| 18:50.20 | Posterdati | jordanm: caused by wodim |
| 18:50.26 | Posterdati | jordanm: dmesg |
| 18:50.35 | Jarvis | ok, guampa whats the IP of your router ? |
| 18:50.38 | guampa | jordanm: i discarded that option when i verified that it works on a livecd |
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| 18:50.43 | guampa | 192.168.1.1 |
| 18:50.45 | Jarvis | ok |
| 18:50.57 | Jarvis | by default your packets are going out on usb0 |
| 18:50.59 | jordanm | guampa: your default route is set to 186.111.149.173, not 192.168.1.1 |
| 18:51.12 | Jarvis | aye |
| 18:51.17 | Posterdati | jordanm: http://pastebin.com/RiUU3dYY |
| 18:51.23 | jordanm | although with the 192.168.1.0 route, you should still be able to access 192.168.1.1 |
| 18:51.27 | guampa | Jarvis: yes, i reach internet over a usb dongle, the router isn't connected to any wan |
| 18:51.51 | guampa | i can ping the router and get dhcp from it |
| 18:52.02 | guampa | i can see that traffic with tcpdump/wireshark |
| 18:52.04 | jordanm | Posterdati: that not nescessarily "caused" by wodim. You either have hit a kernel bug or the hardware is fault |
| 18:52.18 | Posterdati | jordanm: a defective dvd? |
| 18:52.34 | jordanm | Posterdati: I would expect defective drive. how old is the drive? |
| 18:52.43 | Posterdati | jordanm: I burned two cds a two normal dvd, then the dual layer |
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| 18:53.22 | Posterdati | jordanm: 2 years, but working a little |
| 18:53.26 | Jarvis | guampa: ok, what do u get with traceroute 192.168.1.1 |
| 18:53.27 | Maikl27 | squeeze still notreleaed? |
| 18:53.37 | Belthazor | guampa when you use livecd, your ip on eth0 is also 192.168.1.100? |
| 18:53.38 | Posterdati | jordanm: wait I'm going to reboot |
| 18:53.44 | jordanm | !tell Maikl27 about wwsr |
| 18:54.37 | guampa | Belthazor: yes, it's assigned via dhcp |
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| 18:55.50 | guampa | Jarvis: i get this http://pastebin.com/zcWC0VrL , odd |
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| 18:56.30 | Jarvis | yea, it looks as if that packets not going via eth0, but usb0 |
| 18:57.15 | Jarvis | I'm gonng guess here , that when your on the live cd , usb0 is brought up before eth0 |
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| 18:57.48 | Jarvis | or after |
| 18:57.54 | Jarvis | i can't remember the ordering |
| 18:58.01 | Belthazor | guampa have you tried to turn off tcp_ecn? |
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| 18:58.23 | guampa | Belthazor: no, haven't touch sysctls |
| 18:58.31 | guampa | i'm trying it |
| 18:59.23 | guampa | Jarvis, anyway obviating the weird fact that i already have a link scope route to the router, why can i reach it over icmp/udp and not tcp? |
| 18:59.40 | Jarvis | not surely sure ... |
| 18:59.42 | guampa | if i unplug usb0 the problem persists |
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| 19:01.31 | Jarvis | guampa: do u have anything in /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 19:01.54 | guampa | tcp_ecn=0 still can't connect |
| 19:02.20 | Jarvis | ok guampa whats the output of grep -v \# /etc/sysctl.conf |
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| 19:03.28 | Posterdati | jordanm: my god, I had to power cycle the server, even hw reset won't fix the dvd drive |
| 19:03.39 | guampa | Jarvis: http://pastebin.com/CjVSDGUe |
| 19:03.51 | guampa | thanks for all the help guys |
| 19:04.05 | Jarvis | hmm |
| 19:04.07 | bzrk_ | Posterdati: did you try it with another machine already? |
| 19:04.07 | jordanm | Posterdati: again, could be a kernel bug, could be a problem with the hardware. you can try the experimental kernel |
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| 19:06.21 | Jarvis | guampa: whata the output from arp -z |
| 19:06.24 | Jarvis | oops |
| 19:06.25 | Jarvis | arp -a |
| 19:06.27 | Jarvis | even |
| 19:07.25 | guampa | http://pastebin.com/PGCf7wsG |
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| 19:08.09 | guampa | http://pastebin.com/g87YLiPd |
| 19:09.04 | Jarvis | guampa: can u telnet to 192.168.0.1 port 80 |
| 19:09.07 | Jarvis | oops |
| 19:09.09 | Jarvis | 192.168.1.1 |
| 19:09.14 | Jarvis | even |
| 19:09.20 | Posterdati | jordanm: double layer dvd was burned correctly, I'm testing it on another machine, it seems to be burned as UDF, I'm trying to use that image to install solaris 11 on a sparc machine... :) |
| 19:09.26 | guampa | no, not with telnet, not with netcat |
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| 19:09.39 | Jarvis | guampa: does it timeout ? |
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| 19:10.01 | guampa | sniffing an outgoing connection to 192.168.1.1 timeouts with no ACK to the SYNs |
| 19:10.09 | guampa | and |
| 19:11.04 | guampa | getting into the router via serial cable i try to connect to a netcat listener in my machine, this time i get the SYN from the router but the ACKs aren't received on the other side |
| 19:11.17 | guampa | moreover i think they just aren't sent |
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| 19:12.12 | guampa | so, it isn't "sending" any tcp segments |
| 19:12.17 | Posterdati | jordanm: seems to be fixed now |
| 19:12.45 | Jarvis | guampa: whats the output from mii-tool and dmesg | grep eth0 |
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| 19:12.46 | Posterdati | jordanm: thanks |
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| 19:13.47 | dmoen | Hi guys |
| 19:13.59 | dmoen | I just made a test.php on my debian server. |
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| 19:14.08 | dmoen | and when I run it. it says: The requested URL /test.php was not found on this server |
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| 19:14.30 | guampa | Jarvis: http://pastebin.com/g87YLiPd |
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| 19:14.58 | dmoen | any ideas why it's not being found? |
| 19:15.14 | Jarvis | guampa: i think thats the wrong past |
| 19:15.17 | Jarvis | *paste |
| 19:16.10 | guampa | Jarvis: sorry tought to use ethtool instead of mii-tool, this is mii-tool output: "eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok" |
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| 19:16.54 | krish|wired-in | hey guys im trying to add lucid repo to lenny. and getting this error on aptitude update - "W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 |
| 19:16.54 | krish|wired-in | " |
| 19:16.59 | krish|wired-in | any ideas |
| 19:17.22 | Jarvis | guampa: what about dmesg | grep eth0 |
| 19:17.35 | Jarvis | allthough i do notice flow-control is enabled |
| 19:17.40 | cahoot | krish|wired-in: thank the powers for protecting you from shooting yourself in the foot |
| 19:17.52 | guampa | Jarvis: it's in that paste, below the ethtool output |
| 19:17.57 | Jarvis | guampa: what kernel is this ? |
| 19:18.03 | Jarvis | uname -a |
| 19:18.17 | krish|wired-in | krish|wired-in, i need to debootstrap lucid. debian is my dom0 |
| 19:18.19 | guampa | 2.6.35-23-generic |
| 19:18.25 | krish|wired-in | need that updated version of debootstrap |
| 19:18.28 | Jarvis | guampa: that post id is the wrong one ... its the one from arping |
| 19:18.34 | krish|wired-in | lenny debootstrap doesnt have lucid |
| 19:18.51 | jhutchins_lt | That's not a debian kernel. |
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| 19:19.11 | guampa | http://pastebin.com/Ur1CrhK4 |
| 19:19.20 | jhutchins_lt | krish|wired-in: Funny, debbootstrap doesn't have RHEL either. |
| 19:19.35 | guampa | no, folks, it isn't a debian kernel, it's an ubuntu kernel |
| 19:20.10 | babilen | guampa: Why on earth did you install an Ubuntu kernel on Debian? |
| 19:20.18 | guampa | hahah |
| 19:20.30 | guampa | no babilen, i'm sorry i didn't clarify |
| 19:20.33 | guampa | i use ubuntu |
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| 19:20.58 | babilen | guampa: Ah, you might want to head over to #ubuntu then as they might know what is wrong with your system. |
| 19:20.58 | krish|wired-in | jhujhiti, yeah funny right. anyway i need lucid. i can turn empty pockets out for rhel |
| 19:21.09 | jhutchins_lt | So we've been trying to you fix an ubunutu system with advice that doesn't work on ubuntu because it's not debian. |
| 19:21.11 | guampa | allright |
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| 19:21.23 | guampa | thanks much for the help |
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| 19:21.38 | krish|wired-in | heh its like #ubuntu teleported me here and one from here is being sent there as replacement? |
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| 19:25.25 | laurus | I just ran sudo make install and got these two lines: install -m 755 -p "wkhtmltopdf" "/bin/wkhtmltopdf" \n strip "/bin/wkhtmltopdf" . Does that mean that to erase this program I just have to rm /bin/wkhtmltopdf ? |
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| 19:32.50 | jhutchins_lt | laurus: What are you installing, and what are you installing it on? |
| 19:33.20 | laurus | jhutchins_lt, I just installed wkhtmltopdf, compiling from source, but I want to delete it. Debian Squeeze |
| 19:33.32 | laurus | But you're too late :) I already rm'ed it ;) |
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| 19:37.04 | sqrt7744 | is this a good channel for packaging questions, or is there a more specific one? |
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| 19:39.46 | jhutchins_lt | sqrt7744: Give it a shot. |
| 19:39.46 | laurus | jhutchins_lt, thanks for responding though |
| 19:40.07 | sqrt7744 | in any case, when I try to build the package with pbuilder, I get mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/share/zams': Permission denied |
| 19:40.27 | sqrt7744 | seems a bit odd, I mean it's running as root? |
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| 19:41.11 | sqrt7744 | ... and the the whole things fails "dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2" |
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| 19:41.45 | sqrt7744 | What I'm trying to do is build a package of a multiple-choice training program, published on sourceforge (zams). GPL3, qt4. |
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| 19:42.07 | sqrt7744 | if I just run "make install" it installs perfectly, no such errors |
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| 19:43.40 | Jarvis | sqrt7744: then you run debuild etc, are you running as root ? building as root, and using fakeroot can produce some interesting errors .. build your package as a non-root user |
| 19:44.03 | sqrt7744 | no i just ran pbuilder with sudo |
| 19:44.10 | Jarvis | debuild will automatically use fakeroot unless you tell it not to iirc |
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| 19:44.21 | nirazio | jordanm: Thankyou..Also can you say me how to unmount it?? |
| 19:44.26 | sqrt7744 | debuild is also interesting, it creates a package, but the package is basically empty, it only contains the docs |
| 19:44.46 | sqrt7744 | (not running as root) |
| 19:45.15 | Jarvis | hmm |
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| 19:45.37 | Jarvis | sqrt7744: this is your own package i take it ? |
| 19:45.44 | sqrt7744 | yeah |
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| 19:46.15 | sqrt7744 | I'm supposed to get it into ubuntu, Sebastian into debian :-) |
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| 19:46.31 | sqrt7744 | ..but right now we're stuck at the packaging step. |
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| 19:47.05 | karlpinc | !make your own .deb |
| 19:47.06 | dpkg | Make your own .deb from source by reading "man 5 deb-control", compiling and installing into a temporary location (mkdir -p /tmp/mypackage; ./configure --prefix=/tmp/mypackage), using "dpkg -b /tmp/mypackage" to make a .deb, and using <gdebi> to install your new package. Use ldd to play it safe and add dependencies to your control file. |
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| 19:47.39 | karlpinc | sqrt7744: The "right way" is to read the packaging docs for developers. (But I don't even know what that's called.) |
| 19:48.41 | nirazio | jordanm: Are you there?How to revert it back?? |
| 19:48.52 | sqrt7744 | karlpinc, I actually think I followed them pretty well :-) |
| 19:48.56 | crooks306 | Those docs are pretty terible iirc |
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| 19:50.56 | Jarvis | http://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian is the best info i can find |
| 19:51.05 | Jarvis | i havent had to create a package in a while |
| 19:51.37 | Jarvis | not from scratch anyways |
| 19:51.37 | sqrt7744 | Jarvis, ok thanks I'll see if I can find my error. |
| 19:51.58 | sqrt7744 | argh, even checkinstall succeeds. |
| 19:52.37 | poisonbit | nice usage of wiki root namespace, as it's infinite it's ok |
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| 19:52.56 | complete | Good Evening from Germany. |
| 19:53.00 | complete | Im thinking about moores law. My Android has about 10000x the calculation speed and 10000x the memory of my C64. Is there anything else in this world that evolves as fast as processing power and memory? Why are these two evolving so much faster then everything else? |
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| 19:53.30 | jhutchins_lt | complete: Read Moore's paper on it. |
| 19:53.42 | cahoot | stupidity? |
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| 19:56.59 | ziroux | indeed, stupidity. and we're not sure about memory and cpu speed |
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| 19:59.07 | Moult-remote | is there any side effect to having both backports.org/debian and debian.backports.org in my sources.list? because i've had it for a while |
| 19:59.11 | Moult-remote | both of them, that is |
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| 19:59.51 | stew | Moult-remote: no, they are the same. you might as well get rid of backports.org/debian which will probably stop working at some point |
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| 20:01.01 | Moult-remote | stew: thanks! |
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| 20:01.12 | Moult-remote | what's the commenting symbol in sources.list? |
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| 20:01.23 | Moult-remote | i would rather just comment it out, asi 'm rather new to debian and want a way to backtrack |
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| 20:01.50 | crooks306 | it is # |
| 20:01.51 | rozie | Moult-remote: # |
| 20:02.06 | Moult-remote | cheers |
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| 20:02.18 | stew | Moult-remote: there will never be a reason to backtrack in this case fwiw |
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| 20:02.45 | Moult-remote | ;) cheers anyway |
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| 20:12.15 | demoss | enybody russian here ? |
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| 20:14.20 | Jarvis | i swear complete's questions have been getting more and more bizarre and non-debian-related ... he's been in here every day for the last 3 days at least |
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| 20:14.37 | babilen | demoss: Try #debian-russian |
| 20:15.38 | laurus | Ugh, this is ridiculous, MathML doesn't seem to work on Iceweasel for some reason |
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| 20:18.38 | claint | anyone know why there are so many updates on squeeze in the past few days? is it related to the year turning 2011 or is it something else? |
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| 20:19.08 | cahoot | people working on their free time? |
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| 20:19.24 | babilen | claint: Time off work and DDs hacking away I would guess... |
| 20:21.46 | Iridos | trying to release squeeze in 2010 |
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| 20:23.19 | magyar | hi, i have squeeze installed. I can't get sound to work with youtube (flash). How can I resolve this issue? |
| 20:25.26 | jhutchins_lt | magyar: Is pulseaudio installed? |
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| 20:26.53 | magyar | jhutchins_lt: one sec |
| 20:27.47 | magyar | jhutchins_lt: doesnt look like it is |
| 20:28.00 | jhutchins_lt | !alsa checklist |
| 20:28.00 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer to unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>. |
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| 20:29.04 | Iridos | right... specially try something else but bloody flash... |
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| 20:38.26 | cheater99 | hi |
| 20:38.34 | laurus | Hi cheater99! |
| 20:38.55 | cheater99 | i need to install a lot of dev packages just for a single compilation and i don't want to keep them around, but i'll need to do it from time to time |
| 20:39.28 | cheater99 | i want to create a package that lists those packages as dependencies. then i will be able to remove this package when i'm done, and use apt-get autoremove to prune unneeded -dev packages |
| 20:39.31 | cheater99 | how would i go about doing this |
| 20:39.36 | cheater99 | ? :) |
| 20:40.09 | Iridos | you could use pbuilder |
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| 20:40.27 | Iridos | which is often kind of advisable anyway |
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| 20:40.47 | cheater99 | let me have a look at the manpage, thanks for the tip |
| 20:40.54 | Iridos | !pbuilder |
| 20:40.54 | dpkg | from memory, pbuilder is "personal package builder", a package which creates a chroot for building packages which are optionally targetted at releases other than the currently installed release. It is useful for checking that a package has the correct build-dependencies as well. apt-get install pbuilder && pager /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/README.Debian |
| 20:41.14 | simonrvn | cheater99: cowbuilder, pbuilder, and some others |
| 20:41.24 | Iridos | you can build cows? |
| 20:41.33 | Iridos | and silly me always thought they get born |
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| 20:41.46 | simonrvn | (probably got dropped or merged with pbuilder) |
| 20:42.15 | stew | peterS had a script to do this, but p12n.org seems to not be there anymore |
| 20:42.31 | cheater99 | i don't see how i would use pbuilder for that... it doesn't create .deb packages.. |
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| 20:43.55 | Iridos | what makes you think tht |
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| 20:44.39 | poisonbit | stew, maybe here: http://web.archive.org/web/*/%20p12n.org |
| 20:44.59 | poisonbit | there are indexed things from 2004 to 2008 |
| 20:45.05 | stew | cheater99: pbuilder is way to build a .deb without needing to install the build-deps on your system (they get installed into a chroot that gets deleted) |
| 20:45.08 | Cyranix0r | So I know somewhere on the internet, theres a faq about installing debian on drives >= 2tb in size (e.g. have GPT)... Can't find it on google, anyone have bookmark? |
| 20:45.25 | cheater99 | stew: mhm |
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| 20:51.24 | phorce1_home | does someone have sshd running that I can try to hit? I don't need to be able to log in, just see if I can get the prompt. I can't seem to reach my remote server and need to figure out if the problem is here or there. |
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| 20:51.30 | Blitzmerker | hi, is there an easy way to add missing Includes and librarys to a qmake project? |
| 20:51.46 | valdyn | phorce1_home: why ask us? |
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| 20:52.20 | Jway | mounting an ntfs-3g share works in squeeze arm 2.6.32-5-kirkwood but 'ls' gives 'cannot allocate memory'? |
| 20:53.33 | phorce1_home | valdyn: need an ip with a known working sshd to try to hit to see if I still get timeout errors. If I do then I know I have to check the firewall/router here. If I don't then I need to drive and check my firewall/router at the other end. |
| 20:53.33 | valdyn | Blitzmerker: im sure there is, but why dont you ask in the proper channel? |
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| 20:53.52 | valdyn | phorce1_home: try me |
| 20:54.19 | Iridos | you don't have that reverse-dns stuff in the server enabled, do you? |
| 20:54.39 | phorce1_home | valdyn: you can /msg me the address or I can /who you |
| 20:54.49 | valdyn | phorce1_home: you dont need to ask to /who me |
| 20:54.54 | Iridos | that's a pain in the ascendent |
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| 20:56.14 | phorce1_home | valdyn: thank you, now I have to make a drive <sigh> |
| 20:56.22 | jelly-home | fiercely /whoises Iridos |
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| 20:56.37 | valdyn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:57.01 | phorce1_home | tends to ask before doing ANYTHING that involves invoking someone's nick |
| 20:57.03 | jelly-home | valdyn: what kind of a system would NOT have a user named bob? |
| 20:57.19 | phorce1_home | valdyn: that was me. I just get timeouts when I try my own servers |
| 20:57.29 | phorce1_home | heh |
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| 20:58.31 | petekaz | Question: KVM or Xen for my new squeeze box? The box will be used to host a few guests (all debian: one for apache and my personal web site, one for development, one to play around with). Is either one easier to use/setup on squeeze? There seems to be much more documentation on Xen than KVM. Ideally, I don't really want to be building custom kernels. |
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| 20:58.53 | valdyn | petekaz: kvm is easier |
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| 20:59.09 | Ox1 | yep |
| 20:59.24 | Ox1 | but xen = better performance |
| 20:59.39 | petekaz | Right. |
| 20:59.50 | valdyn | not sure thats significant |
| 20:59.52 | petekaz | Xen does seem much easier on squeeze than prior versions. |
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| 21:00.15 | cheater99 | after a bit of reading i'm not sure how to use pbuilder |
| 21:00.55 | cheater99 | can someone help me start out with it? |
| 21:01.01 | Moult-remote | i installed some other package from backports some other time. i'm reading the guides on backports.debian.org and it says to add an option to prefer backports over normal packages in a preferences file, however i don't see any listing for the package i had installed earlier, is there perhaps an alternative location for pinning a package? |
| 21:01.05 | petekaz | performance for my use is not really that big of a deal as its only a home server, but I'll be compiling lots of erlang and haskell code, not sure if either has any performance benefits. |
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| 21:03.36 | Moult-remote | is there a way to find out what packages i have installed from backports? |
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| 21:04.22 | simonrvn | !apt-cache policy |
| 21:04.59 | valdyn | Moult-remote: dpkg -l | grep bpo |
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| 21:05.10 | simonrvn | there's some one-liner in the bot's db that's neat |
| 21:05.13 | valdyn | Moult-remote: i dont remember the clean way, but ^^ works |
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| 21:06.24 | Iridos | Moult-remote, apt-show-versions |
| 21:06.48 | Moult-remote | Iridos: valdyn simonrvn thanks :) |
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| 21:09.08 | Moult-remote | uhm, the pinning instructions in backports.debian.org/Instructions/ - do i have to replace a package name anywhere in the preferences file text? It doesn't specify... |
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| 21:19.37 | Moult-remote | nevermind, i'm an idiot :) |
| 21:22.50 | bittin | somone wants a Diaspora invite? |
| 21:25.06 | Moult-remote | bittin: me |
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| 21:27.33 | bittin | Moult-remote: on wait email, you can query it if you don't wanna send it in the channel |
| 21:28.05 | Moult-remote | bittin: i've sent you a pm on freenode, did you receive it? |
| 21:28.20 | bittin | yes |
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| 21:37.38 | Jway | does anyone have experience with mounting an ntfs-3g share and then 'ls' gives 'cannot allocate memory'? |
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| 21:38.02 | anisfarhana | Hello again :) |
| 21:38.14 | anisfarhana | It is possible to install mod_security for apache in debian via apt-get? |
| 21:38.58 | catsup | apt-cache show libapache-mod-security |
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| 21:39.39 | anisfarhana | catsup: no packages found. |
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| 21:40.47 | anisfarhana | catsup: maybe this one --> libapache2-mod-evasive |
| 21:41.13 | catsup | i have it from 200 http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages |
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| 21:41.26 | JNSamuel | yes |
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| 21:43.06 | antivirtel | hi, what is the best way to run ZNC on starup, if server restarts? (I use lenny, 5.6) |
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| 21:44.05 | catsup | antivirtel: the easiest thing is to add it to /etc/rc.local |
| 21:44.20 | catsup | best is probably to use daemontools to keep it running continuously |
| 21:44.28 | catsup | or init |
| 21:45.02 | dfdfsdf | i all, i can start the X server with startx logged in as root but not as a normal user. In xorg log it says it's using the same /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it only shows the same errors as when i start it as root (something about synaptics bla bla that were not fatal to the X server) still it crashes |
| 21:45.34 | antivirtel | oh catsup, thank the info; I google for daemontools, but init, how it works? |
| 21:45.39 | dfdfsdf | the only way i can get into X with the normal user is starting XDM |
| 21:45.45 | dfdfsdf | then loggin in |
| 21:45.49 | catsup | antivirtel: type man init, man inittab |
| 21:46.14 | antivirtel | ok, I'm away for reading :P |
| 21:46.17 | antivirtel | thanks |
| 21:46.33 | dfdfsdf | what can i check |
| 21:46.42 | jhutchins_lt | dfdfsdf: What release? |
| 21:47.12 | Iridos | !tell antivirtel -about init script |
| 21:47.53 | catsup | dfdfsdf: try starting X directly, as 'X' (not startx) |
| 21:48.01 | catsup | dfdfsdf: make sure /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config is correct |
| 21:48.25 | jhutchins_lt | catsup: What kind of system is that on? |
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| 21:48.46 | anisfarhana | catsup: i add the deb http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages , and execute apt-get update , still couldn't find the package. |
| 21:48.57 | dfdfsdf | it's debian testing |
| 21:49.16 | antivirtel | !thanks Iridos |
| 21:49.16 | dpkg | pas de quoi, antivirtel |
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| 21:49.27 | catsup | anisfarhana: that's not the sources.list line; you want "deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ lenny-backports main contrib non-free" |
| 21:49.35 | anisfarhana | .... |
| 21:49.39 | anisfarhana | catsup: sorry my bad. |
| 21:49.50 | antivirtel | xDDD |
| 21:50.16 | dfdfsdf | catsup, in Xwrapper.config i have allowed_users=console. Guess it should be my user, right? |
| 21:50.27 | catsup | dfdfsdf: no |
| 21:50.47 | dfdfsdf | then it's ok? |
| 21:51.03 | catsup | are you starting X from an authorized console? then fine. |
| 21:51.14 | dfdfsdf | catsup, yep |
| 21:51.23 | dfdfsdf | at least i'm trying |
| 21:51.32 | anisfarhana | catsup: installing.. |
| 21:51.50 | catsup | dfdfsdf: you run 'X' directly? |
| 21:51.59 | dfdfsdf | catsup, well i'll just close all these for a second as i will run X as you said |
| 21:52.02 | Arrowmaster | anisfarhana, catsup: backports has moved to debian.org |
| 21:52.06 | jhutchins_lt | catsup: I know of no-one who has ever messed with that file or needed to. |
| 21:52.10 | catsup | you don't have to close anything |
| 21:52.38 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: you need to to start an xsession from within an xterm or ssh session |
| 21:52.54 | catsup | i mean to start x |
| 21:53.13 | jhutchins_lt | catsup: I don't. |
| 21:53.28 | catsup | um |
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| 21:54.05 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: you have allowed_users=console, and you can start X without being at the console? |
| 21:54.31 | catsup | that's not right :\ |
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| 21:55.10 | jhutchins_lt | catsup: It's not me, it's dfdfsdf, and he's gone. |
| 21:55.26 | anisfarhana | catsup: that package didn't prevent the httpd attack :/ |
| 21:55.40 | jhutchins_lt | As I said, nobody I've ever known in ten+ years of running linux has ever had to mess with that file. |
| 21:56.03 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: ?? |
| 21:56.21 | Arrowmaster | i messed with it so i could start a second X server from my first X server |
| 21:56.27 | catsup | Arrowmaster: me too |
| 21:56.38 | jhutchins_lt | catsup: Not since RH2.1, and I've been able to do that too. |
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| 21:56.52 | jhutchins_lt | In fact, it's a feature on most desktops these days. |
| 21:57.15 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: well you shouldn't be able to do that |
| 21:57.29 | catsup | see Xwrapper.config(5) |
| 21:57.58 | jhutchins_lt | Never heard of anybody messing with it either. Mandriva, lenny, lenny ltsp, squeeze. |
| 21:57.58 | catsup | if for some reason you can start X without being at the console, even though allowed_users=console, that is a bug |
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| 21:58.15 | catsup | you heard of Arrowmaster messing with it |
| 21:58.16 | catsup | and me |
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| 21:58.49 | catsup | i'm pretty sure xwrapper is debian-only |
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| 21:59.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 21:59.22 | catsup | maybe Mandriva is debian-based? shrug |
| 21:59.50 | abrotman | no, it's RPM |
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| 22:00.06 | dfdfsdf | catsup, i'm back, i tried just X and the server starts but it stays black, at least it does not crash as with startx. I forgot to say i only have fluxbox installed, and it works ok when logging with xdm |
| 22:00.25 | dfdfsdf | catsup, should i paste my xorg log? |
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| 22:00.44 | jhutchins_lt | dfdfsdf: Do you have an .xinitrc file? |
| 22:00.49 | catsup | dfdfsdf: it sounds like X is working and something is going wrong with your startx/xinit script, however maybe it's not |
| 22:01.12 | catsup | dfdfsdf: do you get a pointer or is it really all black? |
| 22:01.21 | dfdfsdf | all black |
| 22:01.25 | dfdfsdf | yes i do have .xinitrc |
| 22:01.43 | dfdfsdf | with export GTK2_RC_FILES="$HOME/.gtkrc-2.0" in it |
| 22:01.46 | dfdfsdf | just that |
| 22:01.48 | catsup | you should get a pointer if X is working |
| 22:01.54 | catsup | oh |
| 22:01.56 | dfdfsdf | i don't get apointer |
| 22:02.03 | jhutchins_lt | dfdfsdf: Try moving that. |
| 22:02.29 | dfdfsdf | i added that because qtconfing would bitch about it |
| 22:02.34 | catsup | your xinitrc should run a command that stays running during your session, but it doesn't |
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| 22:03.00 | dfdfsdf | well i'll remove that and try again |
| 22:03.05 | dfdfsdf | see ya all in a sec |
| 22:03.09 | catsup | wait!! |
| 22:03.12 | dfdfsdf | aa? |
| 22:03.14 | catsup | you don't need to quit irc for this |
| 22:03.20 | dfdfsdf | how ? |
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| 22:03.28 | dfdfsdf | i was about to stop xdm |
| 22:03.31 | dfdfsdf | then startx |
| 22:03.32 | catsup | just press ctrl-alt-f1 to switch to console, and use 'startx -- :1' |
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| 22:03.45 | dfdfsdf | ooo |
| 22:03.47 | planet8 | Is there a good lan messenger for Debian? |
| 22:03.48 | catsup | you can then use ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f8 to switch between x sessions |
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| 22:03.59 | dfdfsdf | ok catsup thanks |
| 22:04.03 | planet8 | Not something going through msn or anything like that. |
| 22:04.07 | planet8 | only lna |
| 22:04.09 | planet8 | lan |
| 22:04.09 | catsup | it has to be the alt on the left side of the keyboard |
| 22:05.09 | jhutchins_lt | catsup: Not here, both alt keys work. |
| 22:05.14 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: they work within x |
| 22:05.26 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: but from the console, the right alt specifies consoles 13-24 |
| 22:05.35 | Bushmills | planet8: jabber server + xmpp clients overkill? |
| 22:05.36 | jhutchins_lt | Not here. |
| 22:05.40 | catsup | uh |
| 22:05.52 | jhutchins_lt | catsup: Debian doesn't enable 13-24, it enables 1-6. |
| 22:06.03 | jhutchins_lt | wonders what catsup is actually running. |
| 22:06.04 | lord_rob | planet8: google chat relies on a open protocol that can be implemented locally (but I don't remenber its name :) |
| 22:06.06 | planet8 | Bushmills, overkill :-) Simple ip -> ip is okay |
| 22:06.06 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: uhhh |
| 22:06.12 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: therefore, right alt will simply do nothing |
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| 22:06.16 | dfdfsdf | catsup, same thing |
| 22:06.25 | jhutchins_lt | catsup: Not on Debian. |
| 22:06.27 | Bushmills | lord_rob: xmpp :) |
| 22:06.31 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: if you had something running on console 13, ctrl-right alt-f1 would switch to it. yes, on debian. |
| 22:06.36 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: this is a linux kernel level feature |
| 22:06.37 | planet8 | lord_rob, gonna look for that.. thanks |
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| 22:06.48 | catsup | and the stock debian kernel enables it |
| 22:06.55 | catsup | or rather, doesn't remove it |
| 22:07.05 | dfdfsdf | catsup, i mean not the same as it crashes, because i used startx , if you remember only if i run X the server stays running but black and no mouse, startx will crash it |
| 22:07.14 | jhutchins_lt | catsup: Ctrl-AltGr (right alt)-F1-F6 works here. |
| 22:07.15 | lord_rob | planet8: it jabber |
| 22:07.15 | Bushmills | planet8: ssh + talk + talkd |
| 22:07.16 | dfdfsdf | catsup, i have the log file if it's of any interest |
| 22:07.35 | jhutchins_lt | catsup:RightAlt-F1-6 works from console (and f7/f8). |
| 22:07.39 | Bushmills | even, no ssh needed |
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| 22:07.45 | jhutchins_lt | REALLY wonders what catsup is running. |
| 22:07.47 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: ok, maybe it has to do with your keymap |
| 22:07.53 | dfdfsdf | catsup, and this time i have nothing in .xinitrc |
| 22:08.06 | catsup | dfdfsdf: ok, pastebin the log file |
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| 22:08.35 | planet8 | Bushmills, thanks |
| 22:08.49 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: i think your system is the odd one though. it doesn not behave per xwrapper.config documentation either. |
| 22:08.53 | dfdfsdf | catsup, http://pastebin.com/k6NXJ872 |
| 22:08.58 | jhutchins_lt | Dead stock standard. |
| 22:09.16 | jhutchins_lt | It's been my experience that Debian just works if you don't mess with the defaults. |
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| 22:09.57 | catsup | dfdfsdf: so, it just puts up a black screen until you kill it? |
| 22:10.04 | dfdfsdf | catsup, yep |
| 22:10.22 | dfdfsdf | catsup, this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/Jz8BFF3f |
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| 22:11.05 | lord_rob | yes jabber uses the xmpp protocol. Misread Bushmills |
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| 22:11.24 | catsup | dfdfsdf: what's the output of ls -l /usr/bin/X ? |
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| 22:12.56 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: for the record, i don't have an AltGr, i have an american keyboard with a left and right alt. |
| 22:13.00 | dfdfsdf | catsup, shoes /usr/bin/X with a red background |
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| 22:13.23 | catsup | dfdfsdf: paste the line please |
| 22:13.33 | un214 | you know what I find amusing |
| 22:13.36 | jhutchins_lt | mine's just labeled AltGr, it's clearly a right alt. |
| 22:13.42 | dfdfsdf | catsup, damn urxtv won't copy paste to xchat |
| 22:13.42 | jhutchins_lt | Acer One. |
| 22:13.48 | un214 | 3DES is considered obsolete despite the fact DES never fell |
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| 22:14.17 | pipeline | un214: you mean, no one ever publicly admitted to being able to trivially crack DES |
| 22:14.25 | dfdfsdf | catsup, -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 7052 Sep 4 14:35 /usr/bin/X |
| 22:14.30 | catsup | jhutchins_lt: well, fuck. http://nixdoc.net/man-pages/Linux/man4/console.4.html |
| 22:14.35 | un214 | DES was never cracked by an attack faster than brute force |
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| 22:14.44 | pipeline | un214: the great and terrifying thing about crypto is that private institutions may in fact be decades ahead of the state of the art |
| 22:14.53 | dfdfsdf | catsup, i have to echo any output in console to a file then open it with leafpad to copy paste to xchat :) |
| 22:15.06 | pipeline | un214: notably: DES was hardened against differential analysis *twenty years before the published discovery of diff. analysis* |
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| 22:15.39 | pipeline | un214: as a result of that horrifying discovery, it's now normal to deprecate crypto as soon as something hypothetically better comes along, even if the deprecated algorithm isn't known to be broken. |
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| 22:15.45 | catsup | dfdfsdf: it should say '-rwsr-sr-x'. it probably does. just a long shot |
| 22:15.55 | jhutchins_lt | Oh, another thing: If I disable consoles 4-6 in inittab, X still starts on 7. |
| 22:16.12 | catsup | dfdfsdf: '-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root' specifically |
| 22:16.12 | un214 | although I've been favoring RC4 over AES, mainly because I can run RC4 at 1023 bit encryption with no perforance penalty |
| 22:16.29 | dfdfsdf | catsup, yes |
| 22:16.40 | dfdfsdf | catsup, this is what i have: -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 7052 Sep 4 14:35 /usr/bin/X |
| 22:17.13 | abrotman | is the 'xorg' package installed ? |
| 22:17.45 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, i don't think so |
| 22:17.52 | jhutchins_lt | dfdfsdf: Which window manager again? |
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| 22:17.59 | dfdfsdf | fluxbox |
| 22:18.06 | abrotman | there is a reason they say to use 'xorg', not some other sub package |
| 22:18.11 | dfdfsdf | dpkg -l | grep '*xorg*' shows nothing |
| 22:18.11 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep '*xorg*' shows nothing |
| 22:18.25 | simonrvn | dpkg: hush |
| 22:18.25 | dpkg | [hush] http://www.apt.needs.to.hush.up.org |
| 22:18.29 | dfdfsdf | hah |
| 22:19.04 | catsup | haha what |
| 22:19.14 | dfdfsdf | the dpkg thing |
| 22:19.27 | catsup | erm no i was replying to dpkg too |
| 22:19.34 | catsup | http://www.apt.needs.to.hush.up.org doesn't seem to exist |
| 22:20.02 | un214 | lol |
| 22:20.03 | abrotman | dfdfsdf: succcintly, wahat is the ;problem ? |
| 22:20.19 | dfdfsdf | i just did apt-get install xorg |
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| 22:20.42 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman: Can't startx as user, only as root. |
| 22:20.47 | catsup | X shows a blank screen unless run as root |
| 22:20.52 | catsup | no pointer |
| 22:20.59 | abrotman | try installing 'xorg' |
| 22:21.11 | dfdfsdf | and X start's ok through xdm |
| 22:22.31 | dfdfsdf | this is madness , i did apt-get install xorg, said the following bla bla will be upgraded: xorg did it's thing , tried starting x with startx -- :1 same thing, crash |
| 22:22.46 | dfdfsdf | yes i have a good xorg.conf because i'm using it right now |
| 22:23.33 | abrotman | what is the actual crash ? |
| 22:24.12 | jhutchins_lt | squeeze radeon btw. |
| 22:24.13 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, startx will try to start the X server, after a few secs it goes back to console |
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| 22:24.36 | abrotman | it has a log |
| 22:26.33 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, this is xorg log: http://pastebin.com/k6NXJ872 |
| 22:26.42 | dfdfsdf | and this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/Jz8BFF3f |
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| 22:26.59 | abrotman | would move the xorg.conf aside |
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| 22:27.34 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, why |
| 22:28.18 | abrotman | for testing |
| 22:28.34 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, you want me to try another xorg.conf? |
| 22:28.37 | abrotman | why is he using radeon? it says it's nvidia ? |
| 22:28.44 | dfdfsdf | yep nvidia |
| 22:28.48 | abrotman | dfdfsdf: i want you to try *no* /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 22:28.49 | dfdfsdf | with nvidia binary blob |
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| 22:29.08 | dfdfsdf | oh, remove it ? |
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| 22:29.45 | abrotman | mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.abrotman |
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| 22:32.12 | Iridos | you just want to make a permanent impression with your nick on his system :) |
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| 22:34.04 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, sorry i tried startx -- :1 from console after removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and i got the blak screen with no mose again, but this time i could not ctl-alt f1 to kill it so i had to restart |
| 22:34.24 | abrotman | i didn't tell you to remove it |
| 22:34.31 | dfdfsdf | well i did it anyway |
| 22:34.32 | dfdfsdf | :) |
| 22:34.39 | dfdfsdf | it's in place again |
| 22:34.41 | dfdfsdf | still |
| 22:34.42 | abrotman | i didn't tell you to remove it? |
| 22:34.43 | dfdfsdf | i wonder |
| 22:34.51 | dfdfsdf | no you didn't |
| 22:34.59 | abrotman | bleh |
| 22:35.01 | jhutchins_lt | dfdfsdf: ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 22:35.04 | abrotman | is this as a user |
| 22:35.14 | abrotman | what is your .xinitrc or .xsession ? |
| 22:35.14 | dfdfsdf | ctrl-alt-backspace won't work |
| 22:35.24 | dfdfsdf | i heard they disabled it |
| 22:35.35 | dfdfsdf | it worked before |
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| 22:35.55 | abrotman | !dontzap |
| 22:35.55 | dpkg | In Lenny, disable termination of your X server via Ctrl+Alt+Backspace by placing Option "DontZap" "on" within the ServerFlags section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, see xorg.conf(5) or ask me about <xorg config lenny>. In Squeeze, zapping is disabled by default. "dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium keyboard-configuration" and answer Yes when asked if Ctrl+Alt+Backspace can terminate the X server; setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp |
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| 22:36.48 | dfdfsdf | i wonder why the X server startx and stays black with no mouse even if i remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf , should it not bitch about not finding a config file and close itself the next second? |
| 22:37.14 | abrotman | you dn't need it nomrally |
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| 22:38.08 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, .xinitrc and .xsession are both empy |
| 22:38.11 | dfdfsdf | *empty |
| 22:38.22 | Iridos | why'd they change the default anyway? I hate that |
| 22:38.37 | abrotman | put "/usr/bin/fluxbox" in your $HOME/.xsession |
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| 22:38.56 | abrotman | the user |
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| 22:39.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | Iridos: becaue you could reply on it </whinge> |
| 22:39.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | *reply |
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| 22:39.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | fark. *rely |
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| 22:39.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | whats with all the pting timeouts? :s |
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| 22:40.13 | Iridos | ? |
| 22:40.19 | Iridos | don't understand that |
| 22:40.19 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, done, same thing, starts then shuts down |
| 22:40.23 | Iridos | I meant the zapping thingy |
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| 22:40.43 | abrotman | dfdfsdf: does a window manager appaer ? |
| 22:40.47 | Iridos | the moment I change it is usually _after_ I would have needed to be able to zap the X server... |
| 22:40.54 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, nope |
| 22:41.15 | abrotman | dfdfsdf: ls -ld /tmp? ? |
| 22:41.15 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, no mouse no nothing, the X server shut's down in less than a sec |
| 22:41.43 | burd_tu | If anyone has experience using squeeze kde on a netbook.. I have a desktop page... I set the background to the globe thing tinkering and now I cannot change it back to anything else.. the globe is stuck running as my background |
| 22:41.51 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, drwxrwxrwt 6 root root 4096 Jan 2 14:39 /tmp |
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| 22:43.05 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, this is what i have in .Xdefaults and .Xresources http://pastebin.com/Ki0kxzjz |
| 22:43.09 | abrotman | move your xorg.conf back in .. change the driver from nvidia to vesa .. see what happens |
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| 22:43.58 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, and i leave everything else like it is? monitor refresh rates and all? |
| 22:45.13 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, and all this because i got tired of logging with xdm and wanted autologin |
| 22:45.13 | Iridos | oi, I say |
| 22:45.13 | burd_tu | whoa |
| 22:45.59 | abrotman | dfdfsdf: so undo the changes you meade? |
| 22:46.08 | abrotman | made |
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| 22:47.57 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, well there's nothing wrong but that i can't autologin, i wanted to remove xdm from the start scripts with update-rc.d -f xdm remove then add to /etc/rc.local before the exit 0 this: su - <myuser> -c startx |
| 22:48.12 | dfdfsdf | and this is when i find out i can't startx with my user |
| 22:48.14 | abrotman | notes that gdm does autologin |
| 22:48.31 | jhutchins_lt | I believe xdm can too. |
| 22:48.34 | dfdfsdf | but i can use X with my user if i log through xdm |
| 22:48.43 | dfdfsdf | nope it can't |
| 22:48.58 | dfdfsdf | at least i didn't find out |
| 22:48.59 | dfdfsdf | how |
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| 22:49.04 | burd_tu | if you aren't signed in with nickserv, do your messages get to the channel |
| 22:49.07 | abrotman | and if you already have fluxbox instaLLEDyou probably have a pile of gnome-ish stuff |
| 22:49.24 | abrotman | burd_tu: currentkly yes |
| 22:49.33 | jhutchins_lt | burd_tu: If you can join you can usually be seen. |
| 22:49.38 | burd_tu | abrotman, thank you |
| 22:49.40 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, i tried not to, no nautilus and stuff like that |
| 22:49.51 | dfdfsdf | that's why i don't wan't gdm :( |
| 22:50.01 | abrotman | try installing it .. probably not that much |
| 22:50.03 | dfdfsdf | it's should be so simple since i have a working X config |
| 22:50.35 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, i tried vesa and same thing but this error at the end waiting for X server to shut down error setting MTRR (base = 0xc0000000, size = |
| 22:50.35 | dfdfsdf | 0x08000000, type = 1) Invalid argument (22) |
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| 22:50.52 | abrotman | !mtrr |
| 22:50.52 | dpkg | hmm... mtrr is Memory Type Range Register, a feature on modern x86 processors that can give a 2.5x performance boost when using PCI/AGP graphics cards. MTRR's are supported by Intel PPro or higher, Cyrix 6x86L and AMD K6-2 (step>=8). See also <inconsistent mtrr>. http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/x86/mtrr.txt |
| 22:51.00 | jhutchins_lt | I think xdm can autologin using the same config file format. |
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| 22:51.52 | dfdfsdf | jhutchins_lt, i have nothing against xdm, it's light and if it does autologin i would be happy not to type the same over and over again |
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| 22:52.18 | jhutchins_lt | Check the manpage or the conf file. |
| 22:52.20 | abrotman | try installing gdm yet? |
| 22:52.34 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, nope not that please |
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| 22:52.49 | abrotman | just see what else it wants to install |
| 22:54.17 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, 1 upgraded 18 newly installed, i'd rather type |
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| 22:58.46 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, catsup thanks four your time, i'll give it another try some other day, since it's not that important, hey i can log in with xdm still. BYE |
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| 23:00.44 | abrotman | would rather use gdm :) |
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| 23:04.00 | abrotman | dfdfsdf: enjoy! :) |
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| 23:04.30 | dfdfsdf | thnks |
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| 23:09.20 | himuraken | Is there a general consensus as to when squeeze will become stable? TIA. |
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| 23:09.35 | robokop | himuraken: when it is ready |
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| 23:11.52 | abrotman | himuraken: /topic |
| 23:12.37 | peterrooney | !squeeze pool 1 |
| 23:12.37 | dpkg | ! macrobat=2010-12-13 aguitel=2010-07-11 old=2010-09-21 BonZo=2010-10-15 craigevil=2010-08-30 Selveste1=2011-06-10 NiLon=2010-10-12 rvsjoen=2010-07-15 jordanm=2010-12-15 icebrain=2010-06-01 tabashco=2010-11-22 rmayorga=2011-01-17 jelly=2010-09-29 dpalacio=2010-08-03 cydork=2010-07-10 CutMeOwnThroat=2010-06-15 enouf=2010-04-01 themill=2010-05-30 valdyn=2010-06-15 rohan=2010-12-06 abrotman=2010-10-02 gsimmons=2010-09-03 |
| 23:12.39 | peterrooney | !squeeze pool 2 |
| 23:12.44 | himuraken | hrmm been a bit since I read topic/login. |
| 23:12.48 | himuraken | Thanks group |
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| 23:17.57 | matt868686 | Are there any other possibilities to detect HDD model besides dmidecode under Debian? |
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| 23:18.09 | SuperAlekZ | hey :) |
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| 23:18.31 | pipeline | smartctl, dmesg |
| 23:18.39 | SuperAlekZ | i wanna delete everything inside a certain directory except one directory inside that directory hehe |
| 23:18.52 | SuperAlekZ | how can this be done? i'm scared to delete that directory too, that would be horrible lol |
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| 23:19.51 | Tramp | matt868686: hdparm -I |
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| 23:20.34 | Tramp | SuperAlekZ: man bash, search for extglob. But be carefule anyways |
| 23:21.46 | frikinz | SuperAlekZ: you could change owner of all dir to user X, the one you don't want to delete to user Y and as user X delete the content.. |
| 23:22.10 | SuperAlekZ | oh frikinz you genius :D |
| 23:22.15 | SuperAlekZ | thanks Tramp anyways ;) |
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| 23:22.28 | SuperAlekZ | your suggestion was actually the one where i really learn linux lol :D |
| 23:22.37 | Tramp | yw |
| 23:22.51 | frikinz | or move it one directory up if its on the same filesystem |
| 23:23.48 | SuperAlekZ | nice and simple hehe |
| 23:23.56 | dfdfsdf | abrotman, solved it, i removed all the hidden .x files, like .Xauthority and .xsession and .xsessionrc and it works with startx :) |
| 23:24.56 | abrotman | yay? |
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