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| 00:04.54 | s1gnius | CyberDomovoy: Can you not just use rsync and tell it what directory to sync ? |
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| 00:05.13 | s1gnius | Thats what i do wit my centos mirrors i keep on my LAN |
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| 00:06.28 | CyberDomovoy | s1gnius: well, i don't know much about repos, would my copy be usable with apt if rsync only debian/dists/sid? |
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| 00:07.36 | s1gnius | I am not really a expert with debian but if you tell apt.source to use your LAN repo then it should |
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| 00:08.54 | s1gnius | But i may get corrected by others with much more apt and repo experience than myself |
| 00:09.47 | s1gnius | CyberDomovoy: I use a cron job to run the rsync |
| 00:10.09 | CyberDomovoy | s1gnius: as i see it, packages are stored in the pool directory, not in dists/sid, so how do you get your packages if you only rsync dists/sid ? |
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| 00:12.17 | s1gnius | I will confess it may be different with apt but with centos you mirror the correct directory with all relevant sub directories and the required info for yum is in the repo directory that you mirrored |
| 00:12.27 | s1gnius | It cant be all that different with debian & apt |
| 00:13.18 | jhutchins_lt | Is sid even a full release, or does it rely on some base packages from testing? |
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| 00:13.41 | s1gnius | CyberDomovoy: http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror |
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| 00:15.57 | CyberDomovoy | s1gnius: nice, may be better than ftpsync |
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| 00:18.06 | s1gnius | I am not familiar with ftpsync myself |
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| 00:18.29 | jeeves_moss | how can I script a way of moving a file from the input directory to an output directory, however, leave a "touched" file with the same file name in the input directory? |
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| 00:19.25 | abrotman | jeeves_moss: maybe ask #bash ? |
| 00:19.47 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt: other than the fact it is never "released" ? |
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| 00:20.42 | jeeves_moss | abrotman, hey man, it's been a while since we've talked. I tossed that question in #bash as well |
| 00:20.57 | abrotman | ok |
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| 00:22.54 | mns | cd input_dir ; for file in *; do mv ${file} output_dir ; touch ${file} ; done (that's just a quick and dirty way assuming you want all the files) |
| 00:24.29 | jeeves_moss | mns, yep. I want all the files moved. I have a small/fast array set that I'm pulling to, then once the scrape runs are done, I need to leave the touched files in the scrape output directory |
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| 00:24.49 | abrotman | mns: that would move the touched files ? |
| 00:25.18 | jeeves_moss | abrotman, the touched files need to stay, the actual files need to be moved to external storage |
| 00:25.32 | abrotman | i know |
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| 00:25.57 | jeeves_moss | so "cd input_dir ; for file in *; do mv ${file} output_dir ; touch ${file} ; done" is the simplest way of doing it? |
| 00:26.08 | mns | abrotman: no that's not going to move the touched file. |
| 00:26.32 | abrotman | the next time it runs it will |
| 00:26.35 | mns | jeeves_moss: yes I think so. |
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| 00:27.09 | abrotman | mns: he never mentioned that the touched file would ever be removed .. the next time your blurb runs, it will move the touched file, overwriting the uploaded file |
| 00:27.55 | jeeves_moss | abrotman, the touched files HAVE to stay (maintaining the file name, etc) in the input directory (think of a "place holder" so wget dosn't refetch the same files so I can save disk space) |
| 00:28.16 | abrotman | i didn't give you the blurb .. don't blame me! |
| 00:29.02 | jeeves_moss | abrotman, <passes you a beer> no blame was thought of |
| 00:29.03 | pfred1 | this is unbelievable I had hardware acceleration working went away and now it is dead! |
| 00:29.23 | pfred1 | feels very sorry for anyone that uses ATI |
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| 00:45.39 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt, youll be simply overjoyed to hear that debian is reading the mirrors properly again |
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| 00:51.02 | sobersabre | mystery is taking over me. |
| 00:51.24 | sobersabre | I don't understand where does the system know it needs to start "supervise" |
| 00:52.09 | k[t | !java |
| 00:52.10 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged for Debian, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:52.57 | sobersabre | k[t: who is this for ? |
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| 00:55.31 | k[t | ME!: i cannot get java working on my system... and using the bin installer from the site with directions to just symlink libjavaplugin.so loaded in iceweasel (nothing else) but still got "An error has occured" on java applets =X |
| 00:55.40 | abrotman | k[t: /msg dpkg install java |
| 00:55.59 | k[t | so i messaged dpkg about "install java" and he/she/bot says to install icedtea6 |
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| 00:56.52 | k[t | wow, that sucks -- java is now working... |
| 00:57.01 | stew | sounds sucky |
| 00:57.44 | k[t | i really wanted java using the manual method after .bin extraction. I guess that might be too technical for me -- or not very much documentation on it... idk.. |
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| 00:58.48 | sobersabre | k[t: the problem with this method is the time effect. |
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| 01:03.58 | tharkun | Gentlemen, sorry to bother. I have an old MS Access database that i need to extract some data. Is there a program to do it on Linux? |
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| 01:06.48 | p0g0 | tharkun: yes. |
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| 01:07.05 | p0g0 | ...now let me recall the name |
| 01:07.59 | p0g0 | tharkun: mdb tools http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 01:21.15 | deepy | I have a .prg which supposedly has music in it |
| 01:21.24 | deepy | anyone got a tool for retrieving it? |
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| 01:26.01 | jpinx-ee2pc | deepy: do file musicfile.prg and see what it really is |
| 01:26.20 | deepy | it's data |
| 01:26.24 | kenifanying | hi, dpkg is a robot? |
| 01:26.36 | kenifanying | It's funny. |
| 01:28.34 | deepy | jpinx-ee2pc: I reckon it's a c64 application |
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| 01:37.04 | abrotman | isn't PRG a midi file? |
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| 01:43.32 | lenswipe | guys i just did a new 64 bit debian install |
| 01:43.35 | lenswipe | it wont recognise my mouse |
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| 01:43.44 | lenswipe | even if i try a new USB port |
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| 01:45.34 | lenswipe | can someone help? |
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| 01:52.31 | nkuttler | lenswipe: well, lspci, lsusb etc. is the hardware recognized. xorg log |
| 01:53.07 | lenswipe | nkuttler, lemme look |
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| 01:56.13 | Brian2898 | hey total noob question - what is command line command to move all files out of a folder to ".." |
| 01:56.21 | Brian2898 | or just outside the folder |
| 01:56.22 | Brian2898 | lol |
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| 01:57.19 | lenswipe | nkuttler, yeah its in lsusb |
| 01:57.25 | lenswipe | nkuttler, its just not working |
| 01:58.25 | nkuttler | lenswipe: well, lspci, lsusb etc. is the hardware recognized. xorg log |
| 01:58.51 | lenswipe | nkuttler, yes it is - i just said that |
| 01:58.54 | nkuttler | Brian2898: man mv |
| 01:58.58 | andares | Brian2898: cd /path/to/folder; mv -r * .. |
| 01:59.09 | Brian2898 | man sucks |
| 01:59.42 | nkuttler | lenswipe: did you miss i said "xorg log" ? |
| 01:59.58 | lenswipe | nkuttler, no i didnt miss that |
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| 02:00.52 | Raptors23 | Is there a way to transfer a program from xserver 0 to xserver 1? |
| 02:01.06 | Brian2898 | man mv is uselesss |
| 02:01.13 | Brian2898 | this isnt rocket science |
| 02:01.15 | nkuttler | Raptors23: many. scp for example |
| 02:01.20 | Brian2898 | why doesnt anyone know |
| 02:01.37 | Raptors23 | nkuttler, can you give me an example of how to use scp? |
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| 02:02.58 | Tekk_ | I have a squeeze box and whenever I do any compiling ld returns an error sayin that it can't find -lc |
| 02:03.10 | catsup | Raptors23: scp localfile destinationhost:/path/ |
| 02:03.17 | lenswipe | nkuttler, xorg.log mentions loading a pointing device |
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| 02:03.24 | catsup | Raptors23: you probably want to be using rsync most of the time instead of scp |
| 02:03.28 | lenswipe | nkuttler, i think my mouse is recognised and working |
| 02:03.35 | Bushmills | Raptors23: move one window from one DISPLAY to another? |
| 02:03.45 | Raptors23 | Bushmills, yes |
| 02:03.53 | Bushmills | check out x2x |
| 02:04.03 | catsup | 'rsync -aP' |
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| 02:06.12 | Tekk_ | anyone else having this problem? |
| 02:06.25 | lenswipe | nkuttler, yeah im seeing mentions of my mouse in xorg.log it should be working idk why its not |
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| 02:06.53 | pfred1 | Tekk_libc ? |
| 02:07.19 | Tekk_ | pfred1: glibc, and I'm fully updated |
| 02:07.39 | Raptors23 | Bushmills, is there a way to see what Xservers are running? |
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| 02:08.00 | Raptors23 | I thought it was 0 but its saying can not open display 0 |
| 02:08.02 | pfred1 | Tekk_ hmm that is kooky do you have the libc-dev package installed? |
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| 02:08.37 | Tekk_ | pfred1: I should, I've compiled a ton of C stuff before |
| 02:08.37 | lenswipe | nkuttler, its just started working |
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| 02:08.42 | pfred1 | Raptors23 ps aux | grep X ? |
| 02:08.44 | Tekk_ | it just started not working today |
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| 02:10.27 | Bushmills | Raptors23: i suppose you could do ps aux|grep "/usr/bin/X" |
| 02:10.32 | pfred1 | Tekk_ try ldconfig ? |
| 02:11.15 | pfred1 | Tekk_ though I always thought if there was a problem with libc you were done |
| 02:11.19 | Tekk_ | pfred1: doesn't wor |
| 02:11.19 | Tekk_ | k |
| 02:11.44 | pfred1 | Tekk_ ldconfig is a root thing add -v to it to see something |
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| 02:12.13 | Raptors23 | root 1445 2.7 3.3 235760 134528 tty7 Ss+ Dec07 48:16 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -audit 0 -novtswitch -auth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-PTXX6m/database -nolisten tcp vt7 |
| 02:12.13 | Raptors23 | bash 14207 0.0 0.0 7548 852 pts/4 S+ 21:11 0:00 grep /usr/bin/X |
| 02:12.17 | Raptors23 | x2x - error: can not open display 0 |
| 02:12.18 | sphinxxxx | CYBER SEX AT : http://camchat.orgfree.com |
| 02:12.19 | Raptors23 | :/ |
| 02:12.40 | Tekk_ | sphinxxxx: only if they use debian brand cds for practice |
| 02:12.45 | Raptors23 | bash@debian:~$ x2x -to 1 -from 0 |
| 02:12.52 | Tekk_ | branded* |
| 02:12.55 | lenswipe | sphinxxxx, i farted on your parada |
| 02:12.57 | lenswipe | sphinxxxx, i farted on your parade |
| 02:13.10 | lenswipe | Tekk_, they should use windows CDs for practice - its all theyre good for XD |
| 02:13.12 | Bushmills | Raptors23: :0 and :1 |
| 02:13.25 | pfred1 | lenswipe just so long as you don't fart on their prada |
| 02:13.30 | sphinxxxx | CYBER SEX AT : http://camchat.orgfree.com |
| 02:13.33 | lenswipe | pfred1, yeah wouldnt want that to happen |
| 02:13.49 | Raptors23 | Bushmills, No protocol specified | x2x - error: can not open display :0 |
| 02:13.56 | Raptors23 | :| |
| 02:14.19 | pfred1 | Raptors23 export DISPLAY=0:0 |
| 02:14.20 | lenswipe | guys, i have 4GB of RAM fitted but htop is only showing 3961MB is there a way to see if debian is properly using the full 4G |
| 02:14.24 | lenswipe | 4GB* |
| 02:14.33 | Tekk_ | everything's looking about right |
| 02:14.47 | Tekk_ | I'm pretty sure it's more an issue with ld than glibc pfred1 |
| 02:14.57 | Bushmills | Raptors23: you're running x2x from display :1, and don't have permissions on display :0 ? |
| 02:14.59 | Tekk_ | pfred1: isn't it export DISPLAY=:0 |
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| 02:15.29 | pfred1 | Tekk_ can be and yeah if your glibc was done you'd be staring at nothing |
| 02:15.39 | Tekk_ | yeah, I've restarted several times |
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| 02:16.16 | pfred1 | Tekk_ most of the time the shell is dynamically linked so you wouldn't even get a prompt |
| 02:16.20 | Tekk_ | installing gold to see if that fixes |
| 02:16.39 | pfred1 | Tekk_ ldd /bikn/bash |
| 02:16.44 | pfred1 | Tekk_ ldd /bin/bash |
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| 02:17.25 | pfred1 | libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb755d000) |
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| 02:18.10 | Tekk_ | pfred1: libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00007f4eea541000) |
| 02:18.29 | Raptors23 | Bushmills, should I run it as root? |
| 02:18.30 | pfred1 | Tekk_ yeah if your libc goes you'd get sumped to busybox |
| 02:18.54 | Bushmills | Raptors23: root has no more permission on displays than other users |
| 02:18.56 | Tekk_ | but my libc is fine :P |
| 02:19.12 | Raptors23 | Bushmills, what do you suggest I should do? |
| 02:19.32 | Bushmills | allow yourself access to other display |
| 02:19.32 | pfred1 | Tekk_ yeah its not a problem I've ever had well I have toasted libc but not thatever is going on for you now |
| 02:19.46 | Raptors23 | Bushmills, how do I do that? |
| 02:20.10 | Bushmills | through setting XAUTHORITY to X session cookie, or through xhost program |
| 02:20.15 | pfred1 | Tekk_ has made me appreciate statically linked shells though |
| 02:20.34 | Tekk_ | yeah, I can imagine |
| 02:20.42 | Tekk_ | and I've experienced a dead libc |
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| 02:20.45 | nsadmin | there's sash |
| 02:20.59 | Tekk_ | manually upgrading before you know how prefix and destdir works isn't good |
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| 02:21.57 | pfred1 | I need a video card that does hwaccel and doesn't stop doing it |
| 02:22.05 | pfred1 | I had this one working but it died? |
| 02:22.13 | Tekk_ | O.O |
| 02:22.14 | Tekk_ | brb |
| 02:22.37 | Bushmills | " doesn't stop doing it" even though it dies? |
| 02:22.52 | Bushmills | oh.. "need" ... nm |
| 02:23.14 | Raptors23 | Bushmills, where are X session cookies located? |
| 02:23.26 | Bushmills | Raptors23: your home dir, by default |
| 02:23.28 | pfred1 | Bushmills I managed to get the hwaccel working on this card left machine came back a while later no more accel I think when screensaver came up it shut off |
| 02:23.36 | Raptors23 | Bushmills, name? |
| 02:24.04 | pfred1 | Bushmills I never seen nothing like it before usually once you accel you 're acceled |
| 02:24.05 | Bushmills | .Xauthority, probably |
| 02:24.13 | stew | Raptors23: echo $XAUTHORITY |
| 02:24.37 | pfred1 | Bushmills all I know is there's no way I'm buying an ATI |
| 02:24.38 | Bushmills | was nvidia the way to go a few years back, it seems to be ATI nowadays |
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| 02:25.00 | pfred1 | this is an ATI an older one but it is an ATI |
| 02:25.03 | Raptors23 | stew, it gives no output |
| 02:25.07 | Raptors23 | :\ |
| 02:25.11 | stew | Raptors23: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 02:25.56 | pfred1 | I went with the open source hwaccel and it did work but then it just crapped out |
| 02:26.41 | Bushmills | at least can opensource be fixed |
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| 02:27.16 | pfred1 | I never had issues with my nvidia running the binaries |
| 02:27.22 | Tekk_ | okay, just made sure that a restart does nothing |
| 02:27.27 | Raptors23 | -root@debian:/home/bash# echo $XAUTHORITY |
| 02:27.35 | Raptors23 | no output |
| 02:27.58 | Bushmills | is that from console, or from an xterm? |
| 02:27.59 | Raptors23 | So lost :( |
| 02:28.06 | Raptors23 | console |
| 02:28.32 | pfred1 | echo $DISPLAY |
| 02:28.38 | stew | Raptors23: it would only be set for the user logged in to x |
| 02:28.40 | Bushmills | why would console permit output to X display unless you have set it up? |
| 02:28.50 | stew | Raptors23: the .Xauthority file would be in the home directory of the user that is logged in to X |
| 02:29.00 | Raptors23 | stew, I am the user logged into x |
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| 02:29.09 | Raptors23 | I'm "bash" user on both 0 and 1 |
| 02:29.17 | pfred1 | have you tried ctrl+alt+F8 is it? |
| 02:29.43 | pfred1 | Raptors23 so you're in X? |
| 02:29.50 | Raptors23 | Yes |
| 02:29.55 | Tekk_ | okay, so it still says no -lc |
| 02:30.00 | Raptors23 | in X :1 |
| 02:30.09 | Tekk_ | the exact message is |
| 02:30.10 | Raptors23 | I want to move a program over from :0 to 1 |
| 02:30.12 | pfred1 | Raptors23 ah a second x session? |
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| 02:30.19 | Tekk_ | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc |
| 02:30.20 | Raptors23 | yes |
| 02:30.45 | pfred1 | Raptors23 I did that once years ago just to do it never really saw the point |
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| 02:31.08 | pfred1 | sort of like srarting windows in windows I guess |
| 02:31.26 | Raptors23 | pfred1, did you manage to do it? |
| 02:31.29 | Raptors23 | if so how |
| 02:31.48 | pfred1 | I used an Oreilly book if memory serves it was a pain |
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| 02:32.05 | Raptors23 | :| |
| 02:32.20 | pfred1 | had something to do with xhost ? |
| 02:32.35 | pfred1 | was a long time ago |
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| 02:32.39 | jeansch | Hi, i have to write a manpage to add to my package, anybody know a nice way to do that, (or better a nice emacs mode) ? |
| 02:32.46 | stew | there should be no reason to use xhost, which has security problems |
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| 02:33.19 | pfred1 | stew this was a long time ago when things were simpler |
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| 02:33.49 | sineer | Hi, I'm trying to figure out why I can't get Debian Lenny 5.0.7 netinst or DVD1 DVD to boot on my Toshiba R500 Laptop... It just hang after Loading initrd.img.... Ready. |
| 02:34.04 | stew | xhost has had these security problems since before linux was conceived of |
| 02:34.19 | pfred1 | whatever |
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| 02:34.28 | sineer | I've tried with the USB boot image as well and I make it as far as trying ti mount root FS but it says it can't mount it Tried: (nothing).. and yet netinst.iso has been copied ti my usb key fat partition... |
| 02:34.40 | pfred1 | its not like I have the key for launch codes over here |
| 02:34.48 | sineer | I'm using AMD64 image that should work no problem on that Core2 duo Intel ICH9 Laptop... WTF? |
| 02:34.54 | dvs | sineer: you have to add the "acpi=off" option |
| 02:35.13 | sineer | dvs how? I don't get any prompt other than Install/Graphic Install/... |
| 02:35.22 | pfred1 | right now there is nothing on my system that you couldn't download yourself off an open web server |
| 02:35.29 | Tekk_ | there any way I can reinstall binutils? |
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| 02:36.21 | dvs | sineer: expert install? |
| 02:36.50 | dvs | sineer: you have to add that as a kernel option |
| 02:36.51 | sineer | dvs: Same thing.. It just tries to boot right off when I select Expest install |
| 02:37.01 | sineer | dvs: and build a custom debian installer just for that ?? |
| 02:37.17 | dvs | sineer: no, it's a kernel option for the existing kernel |
| 02:37.47 | pfred1 | sineer I had a heck of a time getting a usb install image to work for debian |
| 02:37.52 | sineer | dvs: err.. how do I add that kernel opt? |
| 02:37.58 | Bushmills | wonders why pfred1's /etc/shadow is available from open web servers |
| 02:38.04 | sineer | pfred1: I had it easy on a few PCs before but this laptop if giving me a hard time... |
| 02:38.08 | dvs | sineer: actually, the squeeze installer would be a much better bet. |
| 02:38.23 | stew | the scary part about xhost is that it lets others view all your keystrokes |
| 02:38.26 | sineer | dvs: ahh.. well I'll try that |
| 02:38.49 | pfred1 | sineer the first time I did it it was easy but then the OS wouldn't come up after that it was hard to get the isntaller |
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| 02:39.18 | pfred1 | stew that is the same deal with IRC |
| 02:40.35 | sphinxxxx | CYBER SEX AT : http://camchat.orgfree.com |
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| 02:42.06 | lenswipe | my nvidia driver says i need a package called cc |
| 02:42.13 | lenswipe | synaptic says its not in the repos |
| 02:42.25 | stew | pfred1: what's that? |
| 02:42.47 | dvs | lenswipe: aptitude install build-essential |
| 02:42.52 | pfred1 | stew 21:38 < stew> the scary part about xhost is that it lets others view all your keystrokes |
| 02:42.56 | lenswipe | oh yeah thx |
| 02:43.07 | stew | pfred1: no, irc doens't let someone view all my keystrokes |
| 02:46.06 | pfred1 | nitus 21:40 < sphinxxxx> CYBER SEX AT : http://camchat.orgfree.com |
| 02:46.16 | pfred1 | fsck |
| 02:46.34 | lenswipe | dvs, aparently i need the kernel source tree aswell, how do i get that? |
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| 02:47.12 | dvs | lenswipe: aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 02:47.12 | Tekk_ | maybe I should reinstall gradually |
| 02:47.42 | Tekk_ | install in a new partition, and just slowly transition |
| 02:48.14 | lenswipe | dvs, i have to choose either openvz or xen packages...what do i choose? |
| 02:48.26 | dvs | not sure |
| 02:48.42 | lenswipe | dvs, im not using openvz or xen im trying to install a damn graphics driver lol |
| 02:49.49 | lenswipe | dvs, also i installed from the backported CD, how do i update my kernel? |
| 02:50.09 | dvs | cd? |
| 02:50.21 | lenswipe | yeah |
| 02:50.51 | lenswipe | the normal debian installer doesnt recognise my SATA controller so i downloaded a CD from a site that had a japanese backported kernel |
| 02:51.03 | dvs | lenswipe: oh kmuto |
| 02:51.06 | lenswipe | yeah thats the one |
| 02:51.48 | dvs | lenswipe: you have to add backports to your source.list |
| 02:51.54 | lenswipe | right |
| 02:51.56 | lenswipe | how do i do that/ |
| 02:52.06 | dvs | !backports |
| 02:52.06 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>, <volatile>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 02:53.46 | dvs | lenswipe: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 02:53.51 | dvs | that |
| 02:54.00 | lenswipe | ty |
| 02:54.33 | lenswipe | dvs, i appear not to have a sources.list |
| 02:54.37 | lenswipe | oh wait |
| 02:54.42 | lenswipe | yeah |
| 02:55.08 | Tekk_ | okay, reported my problem, hopefully it'll get fixed :P |
| 02:55.19 | lenswipe | so yeah |
| 02:55.22 | lenswipe | i have no sources.list |
| 02:55.26 | lenswipe | any advice? |
| 02:55.42 | dvs | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:57.00 | lenswipe | ty |
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| 02:57.21 | lenswipe | dvs, oh nice! |
| 02:57.28 | lenswipe | if i double click it, it brings up the GUI |
| 02:57.32 | lenswipe | that is officially aweome |
| 02:58.22 | Bushmills | "GUI" as in "text editor"? |
| 02:58.30 | lenswipe | GUI asin the GUI from the admin menu |
| 02:58.38 | lenswipe | asin the software sources GUI |
| 02:58.44 | lenswipe | is impressed |
| 02:59.01 | Arrowmaster | what did you click? |
| 02:59.39 | lenswipe | Arrowmaster, i doubleclicked on /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:59.52 | Arrowmaster | what irc client are you using? |
| 03:00.02 | lenswipe | Arrowmaster, xchat - why? |
| 03:00.09 | lenswipe | does it make a difference |
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| 03:00.25 | Arrowmaster | my xchat doesnt even show that as clickable |
| 03:00.42 | lenswipe | Arrowmaster, huh? no i mean in the file manager |
| 03:00.47 | lenswipe | smacks Arrowmaster |
| 03:01.53 | lkthomas | guys |
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| 03:02.09 | lkthomas | what program can I compare file and folder permission between two servers ? |
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| 03:07.21 | lenswipe | can someone help? im trying to install a graphics driver for my NVIDIA card and i need to install a kernel source tree |
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| 03:08.16 | un214 | apt-get source linux-image |
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| 03:08.29 | yoshio | !kernel source |
| 03:08.29 | dpkg | To install Debian kernel source (i.e. Linux kernel source with Debian patches) on Lenny, run: aptitude install linux-source-2.6.26 |
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| 03:09.52 | dvs | lenswipe: if you're running the kmuto kernel you won't be able to download the source for it. |
| 03:10.04 | yoshio | lenswipe, linux-source-2.6.32 is the latest for squeeze |
| 03:10.09 | lenswipe | dvs, right |
| 03:10.18 | lenswipe | how do i update my kernel? |
| 03:10.25 | lenswipe | ive added backports to my sources.list |
| 03:10.33 | lenswipe | i run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and nothing happens |
| 03:10.53 | dvs | lenswipe: aptitude install kernel-image-686 |
| 03:10.55 | derik | how i can delay a cron tab with random seconds |
| 03:10.57 | dvs | or whatever |
| 03:10.57 | lenswipe | ty |
| 03:11.04 | lenswipe | dvs, bear in mind this is 64 bit linux |
| 03:11.17 | dvs | lenswipe: aptitude install kernel-image-amd64 |
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| 03:11.59 | lenswipe | dvs, "could not find any package whose name or description matched kernel-image-amd64" |
| 03:12.15 | dvs | oops |
| 03:12.21 | dvs | lenswipe: aptitude install kernel-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 03:12.23 | kurt_h | derik: make the command point to a shell script that first sleeps for a random number of seconds, then runs the command you really want |
| 03:12.37 | Arrowmaster | linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 03:12.37 | lenswipe | dvs, kk |
| 03:12.52 | Arrowmaster | not kernel |
| 03:13.05 | sineer | dvs: I've just tried Expert Install with Squeeze Beta2 netinst dvd and Same thing :( |
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| 03:13.35 | lenswipe | dvs, "No packages will be installed, updated or removed" |
| 03:13.42 | lenswipe | in other words that did absolutely nothing |
| 03:13.43 | lenswipe | O_O |
| 03:13.59 | derik | kurt_h i am begginer how i make this script ? |
| 03:14.00 | lenswipe | im using kernel 2.6.32-trunk-amd64 |
| 03:14.27 | dvs | lenswipe: you won't find the source for that one either |
| 03:14.41 | Arrowmaster | that kernel causes nothing but trouble |
| 03:14.48 | lenswipe | dvs, im sure not, but im wondering why i cant install a newer kernel |
| 03:15.11 | dvs | lenswipe: aptitude -t lenny-backports install kernel-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 03:15.16 | lenswipe | ok |
| 03:15.24 | Arrowmaster | its linux-image not kernel-image |
| 03:15.42 | dvs | smacks head |
| 03:15.45 | lenswipe | dvs, aha! |
| 03:15.52 | lenswipe | dvs, something is install |
| 03:15.53 | lenswipe | dvs, something is installing |
| 03:15.56 | lenswipe | likes this |
| 03:16.05 | dvs | so I'm old fashioned. |
| 03:19.26 | dvs | sineer: you're installing from a USB? |
| 03:19.33 | sineer | dvs: No i'm trying from DVD now.. |
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| 03:19.49 | sineer | also I found how to access the boot prompt and I've added acpi=off and Same result. |
| 03:20.28 | dvs | sineer: then I'm not sure. That worked for my laptop. |
| 03:21.08 | derik | how i see time after OS kill a sleeping process ? |
| 03:21.28 | sineer | heh.. Installing snow Os X and win7 no prob but debian is giving me a hard time :( |
| 03:21.59 | dvs | sineer: did you install another linux? |
| 03:22.12 | sineer | nah |
| 03:23.09 | yoshio | lenswipe, do you really need the entire kernel source? "aptitude show linux-headers-2.6.32-5-amd64" says This package provides the architecture-specific kernel header files for Linux kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64, generally used for building out-of-tree kernel modules. |
| 03:23.22 | lenswipe | yoshio, aparently i do |
| 03:23.40 | Arrowmaster | you should only need the headers |
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| 03:25.55 | lenswipe | ok |
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| 03:27.04 | lenswipe | yoshio, apparently it cant find it |
| 03:28.30 | dvs | lenswipe: aptitude -t lenny-backports install linux-headers-2.6-amd64 |
| 03:28.45 | lenswipe | dvs, thanks |
| 03:29.19 | lenswipe | thats it doing now |
| 03:29.19 | lenswipe | :) |
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| 03:31.03 | lenswipe | dvs, it still says it cant find the kernel source tree |
| 03:31.16 | dvs | what does? |
| 03:31.42 | lenswipe | my GFX driver |
| 03:31.48 | lenswipe | its complaining they arent installed |
| 03:31.48 | lenswipe | O_O |
| 03:32.08 | dvs | lenswipe: because you are still running the old kernel |
| 03:32.17 | lenswipe | no i rebooted |
| 03:32.32 | Arrowmaster | run uname -r |
| 03:32.32 | dvs | what does uname -r say? |
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| 03:33.07 | lenswipe | it says 2.6.32.bpo.5-amd64 |
| 03:33.23 | lenswipe | i just ran sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 03:33.36 | lenswipe | ...which seems to have worked :D |
| 03:33.43 | lenswipe | likes this |
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| 03:59.20 | ozysimpson | hello everyone |
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| 04:00.42 | ozysimpson | I am trying to build a linux firewall for my home network, I have changed my modem to bridged mode, Do i need any thing else except IP tables on my linux machine? |
| 04:01.33 | ScottG | I want to run a custom script after my computer comes out of or goes into suspend or hibernate. What would be the correct way to do this? |
| 04:01.41 | neoice | probably ssh if you ever want to manage it |
| 04:02.03 | ozysimpson | neoice, yes i have ssh running on the my firewall |
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| 04:02.20 | SparFux | Which parts of this *.deb package would be run as root on installation: http://pastebin.com/37B36sRN |
| 04:02.30 | neoice | ozysimpson: and then you might want something like bandwidthd for graphing. theres a number of other options, but i think bandwidthd is the easiest |
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| 04:03.17 | ozysimpson | my question was more along the lines of since my modem will turn into router how is my linux machine going to handle the traffic as in how to give the username and password of my ISP? |
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| 04:05.56 | ozysimpson | neoice, how to configure my linux machine for account details of ISP? or would my modem still handle the username and password details in bridged mode |
| 04:07.15 | neoice | ozysimpson: all the modems ive used are just dhcp-based. if you have a user/pass, you might want to look into ppp |
| 04:07.38 | neoice | I think ppptd is the server |
| 04:08.31 | ozysimpson | should i be running the server? i am guessing yes, if yes where do i configure the username and password |
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| 04:08.44 | stew | ScottG: look at the scriptlet api in /usr/share/doc/hibernate |
| 04:08.51 | nevyn | ozysimpson: in bridged mode you need to use pppd |
| 04:09.03 | lenswipe | guys im installing LAMP and ive installed everything |
| 04:09.10 | lenswipe | but i remember theres a file i have to edit and add mysql.so |
| 04:09.11 | nevyn | ozysimpson: there should be config for a pppoa account in pppconfig |
| 04:09.22 | lenswipe | but its so long since i did a lamp install i cant remember what file that is |
| 04:09.25 | lenswipe | can somsone remind me? |
| 04:09.28 | nevyn | lenswipe: php.ini? |
| 04:09.34 | lenswipe | hmm could be |
| 04:09.36 | nevyn | debian should do this for you. |
| 04:09.47 | lenswipe | nevyn, it doesnt |
| 04:10.23 | nevyn | like it should enable the mysql stuff in php when you install php....-mysql5 or whatever the support package is. |
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| 04:11.51 | nutron | how do I enable drbd in squeeze? is there a howto? is it possible? |
| 04:12.00 | nutron | I can't find the drbd-source package anymore |
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| 04:21.57 | pfred1 | has anyone here ever heard of NetworkManager removing a video card from HAL? |
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| 04:33.22 | ScottG | stew: Alright ill check it out. Same for suspend too i presume? |
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| 04:39.38 | yoshio | lenswipe, the package php5-mysql installs a file called /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/mysql.so |
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| 04:40.33 | lenswipe | yoshio, i got it |
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| 04:46.58 | yoshio | nutron, there is a squeeze package called drbd8-utils and drbdlinks |
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| 04:49.38 | yoshio | nutron, there are lenny packages called drbd0.7-module-source and drbd8-source |
| 04:49.59 | yoshio | nutron, oh sorry, you're on squeeze |
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| 04:51.09 | yoshio | nutron, http://packages.debian.org/source/squeeze/drbd8 |
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| 04:53.23 | tharkun | p0g0: thx, I'm taking a look into it |
| 04:53.49 | lenswipe | guys ive sort of got a problem |
| 04:54.00 | lenswipe | my screen keeps going black and flickering |
| 04:54.09 | lenswipe | and then returning to normal |
| 04:54.53 | pfraser | ... power cable is in? |
| 04:55.01 | lenswipe | its not a monitor problem |
| 04:55.04 | lenswipe | its an Xorgproblem |
| 04:55.17 | lenswipe | i can still see little strips of the actual top of the screen when it does it |
| 04:55.19 | pfraser | xorg.conf? |
| 04:55.26 | lenswipe | what about it |
| 04:55.32 | pfraser | sharing's caring :) |
| 04:55.55 | lenswipe | indeed |
| 04:55.58 | lenswipe | lemme switch machines |
| 04:57.11 | pfred1 | lenswipe I have a NetworkManager problem where NetworkManager is turning off my video adapter |
| 04:57.35 | lenswipe | pfred1, and you think it could be related? |
| 04:57.51 | pfred1 | lenswipe no but I related it |
| 04:57.55 | lenswipe | hm |
| 04:58.15 | pfred1 | lenswipe I just lose hardware acceleration |
| 04:58.49 | lenswipe | i get a flickering black screen with a strip of white at the top |
| 04:59.13 | pfred1 | sounds just like the blank screen saver to me |
| 04:59.49 | lenswipe | no it happens when im actually using the machine |
| 04:59.53 | lenswipe | its not the blank screensaver |
| 04:59.59 | pfred1 | linux really is going to the dogs anymore |
| 05:00.01 | lenswipe | and the blank screensaver doesnt flicker |
| 05:00.13 | lenswipe | pfred1, i know, i got an xorg update which made me have to reinsall |
| 05:00.27 | lenswipe | and it looks like its set to happen again |
| 05:00.37 | lenswipe | ima try disabling compiz and see if that helps |
| 05:00.48 | lenswipe | if its just compiz ill shut up cos i know thats broken |
| 05:00.49 | pfred1 | windows 7 is looking better and better |
| 05:01.01 | lenswipe | meh |
| 05:01.04 | lenswipe | oh fuck |
| 05:01.07 | lenswipe | i disabled compiz |
| 05:01.10 | lenswipe | and its still doing it |
| 05:01.13 | lenswipe | this doesnt look good |
| 05:01.22 | lenswipe | the thing is |
| 05:01.24 | lenswipe | i actually need to go to bed now |
| 05:01.26 | lenswipe | its 5am |
| 05:01.30 | lenswipe | im really tired |
| 05:01.37 | pfred1 | yeah if computers are one thing its patient |
| 05:01.39 | lenswipe | i think ill come on and continue this tommorow when i resurface |
| 05:01.53 | pfred1 | it'll keep |
| 05:02.01 | lenswipe | pfred1, patient as well as f***ing annoying |
| 05:02.41 | pfred1 | I'd planned on taking out network manager and that I'mhigher than a kit deamon anyways |
| 05:03.03 | lenswipe | hmm |
| 05:03.17 | lenswipe | i have a 400GB partition on my HDD that i made when i installed linux |
| 05:03.26 | lenswipe | ima put winshit on it and have that there |
| 05:03.30 | lenswipe | gnite |
| 05:04.14 | pfraser | bleat bleat bleat! |
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| 05:09.47 | Coburn|eMac | G'day peeps |
| 05:10.00 | Coburn|eMac | Anyone wanna help me out with a sound problem with ALSA? |
| 05:10.15 | Coburn|eMac | It seems to be "forgetting" soundcards at shutdown/reboot |
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| 05:11.11 | Coburn|eMac | if I do a "modprobe snd-powermac", ALSA will wake up and auto-configure the sound card; however alsactl init and alsactl store don't do anything |
| 05:13.24 | Bop | Coburn|eMac, i think u do alsa store and alsa restore to get back the values |
| 05:13.59 | Coburn|eMac | Yeah, I do that |
| 05:14.06 | Coburn|eMac | but on boot, no sound |
| 05:14.26 | Coburn|eMac | ALSA errors on boot as "No soundcards found" or something like that |
| 05:14.58 | Bop | then add modprobe snd-powermac after alsactl restore |
| 05:15.03 | Bop | on boot scripts |
| 05:15.15 | Bop | before , not after |
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| 05:15.40 | Coburn|eMac | Okay, what would the best file to edit for that |
| 05:15.48 | Bop | let me check |
| 05:15.54 | yoshio | Coburn|eMac, look in /etc/modprobe.d/ , is your card in the blacklist? |
| 05:16.20 | yoshio | guess no |
| 05:16.24 | yoshio | guess not |
| 05:16.41 | Coburn|eMac | lookingg |
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| 05:17.03 | yoshio | Coburn|eMac, do you have a /etc/modutils/sound file also? |
| 05:17.32 | Coburn|eMac | snd-powermac not in blacklist. |
| 05:17.38 | Coburn|eMac | /etc/modutils/sound ? |
| 05:17.41 | Coburn|eMac | I'll check |
| 05:17.58 | Coburn|eMac | matthew@eMac:~$ cat /etc/modutils/sound |
| 05:17.58 | Coburn|eMac | cat: /etc/modutils/sound: No such file or directory |
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| 05:18.10 | yoshio | !snd-powermac |
| 05:18.40 | Coburn|eMac | Hm? |
| 05:18.40 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | did squeeze put the squeeze on kernel package? my apt-cache foo doesn't turn it up. |
| 05:19.10 | Bop | Coburn|eMac, /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base,conf |
| 05:19.18 | Bop | just add it there , properly |
| 05:19.19 | ScottG | stew: Actually that doesn't work for me since I use pm-suspend and pm-hibernate |
| 05:19.57 | Coburn|eMac | so.. |
| 05:20.04 | Coburn|eMac | I add a line saying |
| 05:20.09 | Coburn|eMac | "install snd-powermac" |
| 05:20.11 | Coburn|eMac | ? |
| 05:20.19 | Bop | no |
| 05:20.34 | ScottG | I want to run a custom script after my computer comes out of or goes into suspend or hibernate. What would be the correct way to do this? |
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| 05:20.51 | Bop | options snd-powermac |
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| 05:21.01 | Bop | that will load the kernel module |
| 05:21.46 | Coburn|eMac | alright |
| 05:21.56 | Coburn|eMac | I'll reboot and check if I have sound |
| 05:21.59 | Coburn|eMac | Thanks! :) |
| 05:22.26 | yoshio | Coburn|eMac, my conf file has stuff like install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-ioctl32 ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq ; } also |
| 05:23.21 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | hah. nm. stupid sources.list busted. |
| 05:24.08 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Hello! Someone knows a good page about nf_nat_irc and nf_conntrack_irc ? |
| 05:24.34 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Are they same as ip_conntrack_irc and ip_nat_irc ? |
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| 05:25.51 | stew | Emmanuel_Chanel: try #netfilter |
| 05:27.32 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | stabs the wireless part of 2.6.31 in the face |
| 05:28.06 | stew | ScottG: man pm-suspend |
| 05:28.27 | pfred1 | IWnDl1PiyscjE come on least it isn't killing their graphics |
| 05:28.34 | ScottG | stew: Yea, been reading through it actually. |
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| 05:29.28 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | my network I/O holds its breath every minute or two for 20 seconds. |
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| 05:37.23 | Emmanuel_Chanel | stew: thx. |
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| 05:38.57 | pfred1 | well let me purge NetworkManager of course I'll never get back online again and you'll all miss me terribly! |
| 05:39.27 | stew | pfred1: wicd is better |
| 05:39.42 | pfred1 | stew I never ever do wireless |
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| 05:40.04 | pfred1 | well OK my keyboard and mouse are wireless but thats as far as I go |
| 05:40.06 | stew | pfred1: wicd is better for whatever you are using NetworkManager for |
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| 05:40.32 | pfred1 | stew right now all I'm using it for is killing hwaccel on my gfx adapater apparently from syslog |
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| 05:40.40 | Accelerator | How can I see why my script in /etc/cron.hourly isn't running? |
| 05:40.43 | stew | it might not be better at that |
| 05:40.49 | Accelerator | I can manually execute it just fine. |
| 05:40.58 | pfred1 | Dec 8 09:46:49 giga NetworkManager: <debug> [1291819609.569700] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_radeon_cp_0') |
| 05:41.02 | pfred1 | . |
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| 05:41.14 | stew | Accelerator: a wild guess would be that "man run-parts" would tell you you can't have a period in the name |
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| 05:41.43 | xjkx | I zipped a file with "zip -r x.zip x/" and i can unzip it, but will it work on windows :S |
| 05:41.46 | Accelerator | or really? |
| 05:41.56 | pfred1 | then 3 lines later it promptly removes sais device |
| 05:42.02 | Accelerator | So something.sh wouldn't work? |
| 05:42.10 | pfred1 | oh well everyone have a merry Chsirtmas |
| 05:42.17 | stew | Accelerator: it would not |
| 05:42.19 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | xjkx: probably. but you are asking a lot of windows. right? ;) |
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| 05:42.22 | Accelerator | Thanks. |
| 05:42.25 | anisfarhana | hello guys :) |
| 05:42.46 | anisfarhana | Could somebody advise me how to install mod_layout on apache ? I'm using Lenny here. |
| 05:42.51 | xjkx | IWnDl1PiyscjE: what do you mean, its my first question :o |
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| 05:43.35 | stew | anisfarhana: its in the libapache2-mod-layout package |
| 05:43.41 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | xjkx: It probably will work. Everything else I said was a smart ass answer. |
| 05:43.57 | anisfarhana | hi stew :) will try now. |
| 05:44.21 | yoshio | gpg --keyserver keyserver.pgp.com --search-keys 812347dd ==> gives me key not found. however seahorse (gnome gui for gnupg) shows me the key (Belonging to Mozilla software release team, used to sign binaries). why does gnupg say it's not found? |
| 05:45.28 | anisfarhana | stew: got it installed , i try to google about this but i'm not lucky enough , could you point me to somewhere that i can read about the header/footer in apache2 ? |
| 05:47.32 | stew | anisfarhana: halo. i have no idea. i know that "apt-file search mod_layout" gave me the answer to your original question. if that stuff is related to mod_layout, note that you might have to "a2enmod layout" before it is actually available |
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| 05:48.20 | anisfarhana | stew: I want to put header and footer in apache2. |
| 05:48.30 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | yoshio: subkeys.pgp.net apparently had it whenthis post was made: http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1256779 |
| 05:48.31 | anisfarhana | stew: So i guess i need that mod_layout |
| 05:48.42 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | yoshio: and pgp.com != pgp.net |
| 05:49.39 | kingsley | Why would an email sent to "debian-devel-changes" say that a certain version of a package was accepted, but it's missing from packages.debian.org? |
| 05:50.04 | stew | kingsley: because dinstall hasn't run yet? |
| 05:50.10 | stew | kingsley: (which runs every 6 hours) |
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| 05:50.50 | stew | yoshio: forget pgp.com, use pool.sks-keyservers.net |
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| 05:51.18 | kingsley | stew: That's a reasonable explanation. My only concern is that the email is dated June 10th. |
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| 05:52.00 | stew | kingsley: what version of which package then? |
| 05:52.20 | kingsley | stew: cairodevice 2.12-1 (source i386) |
| 05:52.30 | ScottG | I made a small test script /etc/pm/sleep.d/00scott-custom but when I run sudo pm-suspend the script doesn't seem to run. Could someone help me out? |
| 05:52.39 | yoshio | anisfarhana, you mean like http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/195 or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/ssi.html |
| 05:52.42 | kingsley | stew: See http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-devel-changes@lists.debian.org/msg279642.html and |
| 05:52.52 | kingsley | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=r-cran-cairodevice |
| 05:53.39 | yoshio | stew, that server gives the same error (not found) |
| 05:53.54 | stew | yoshio: WFM |
| 05:53.57 | anisfarhana | yoshio: found it :) |
| 05:54.08 | anisfarhana | stew / yoshio : tqvm |
| 05:54.16 | kingsley | stew: I think I may have found an answer. |
| 05:54.22 | stew | kingsley: http://packages.qa.debian.org |
| 05:54.24 | stew | err |
| 05:54.31 | stew | kingsley: http://packages.qa.debian.org/r-cran-cairodevice |
| 05:54.47 | stew | has a link to http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/cairodevice/news/20100610T170208Z.html |
| 05:55.16 | stew | kingsley: but its since been replaced by multiple new versions |
| 05:55.31 | kingsley | stew: Yes, I agree. Thank you. |
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| 06:01.15 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | how much free disk space should I plan on preparing before compiling 2.6.35.9? (comfy estimates are okay) |
| 06:02.08 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | I have 8gb free right now (but could siphon in more via lvm) |
| 06:02.29 | echo-area | Hi. I'm using firmware-b43-lpphy-installer. The installed module used to work at first, but stops working in the last three weeks. I get messages like "Controller RESET (DMA error)" and "deauthenticating by local choice (reason=3)" in dmesg. Does anyone know how to resolve the issue? |
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| 06:03.00 | rkhshm | while buildng dbus i get this error.. http://pastie.org/1361164 |
| 06:03.06 | yoshio | stew: sorry, I put http_proxy="" in front of the gpg command line, now it works |
| 06:03.10 | rkhshm | any idea what the problem is ? |
| 06:03.21 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | echo-area: what kernel version? |
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| 06:03.42 | echo-area | IWnDl1PiyscjE: 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
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| 06:05.19 | echo-area | IWnDl1PiyscjE: By the time wifi worked, I didn't notice if there was DMA error or not :( |
| 06:06.06 | echo-area | At booting time, it says "b43-phy0 ERROR: This device does not support DMA on your system. Please use PIO instead." |
| 06:06.06 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | echo-area: humm. I lost the link, but I think .33+ are better. found something in kernel.org bugzilla for my ath9k seeing the same thing. I don't think it's specific to one chipset etc. |
| 06:06.40 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | kernel: [12492.493469] wlan0: deauthenticated (Reason: 3) |
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| 06:06.52 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | I get that frequently (like every 5-15min) |
| 06:07.12 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | other gear using the same ap never misses a beat |
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| 06:08.54 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | when I see ath9k: DMA failed to stop in 10 ms AR_CR=0x00000024 AR_DIAG_SW=0x00000020 sometimes it'll be brain dead (few msgs ever few seconds) until I unload the module. I'm on a cold boot, but a resume from hibernation seems to cull it out more often. |
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| 06:09.19 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | echo-area: I'm working on rolling a 2.6.35.9 kernel right now. |
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| 06:13.39 | echo-area | IWnDl1PiyscjE: But I don't want to use a package not in current package repo :( I think I have to wait |
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| 06:16.07 | ScottG | I am trying to `wall` the output of a command (umount) but it isn't working. I think it might be because umount is outputting to stderr and not stdout. Is there a way I ca get around this? |
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| 06:17.18 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | ScottG: 2>&1 before | |
| 06:18.29 | ScottG | IWnDl1PiyscjE: Awesome. I always seem to forget that trick. I tried > /dev/stdout but that didn't work |
| 06:18.49 | ScottG | although thinking about it I think i see why |
| 06:19.32 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:19.42 | ScottG | yea |
| 06:19.55 | ScottG | IWnDl1PiyscjE: What's the &1 for? |
| 06:20.34 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | I think of it as, fold into |
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| 06:20.46 | Dewi | ScottG: gets a reference |
| 06:20.49 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | the number being the file/stream descriptor |
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| 06:21.10 | Dewi | ScottG: without it, the thing after '>' would be a filename, not a file descriptor |
| 06:21.15 | yoshio | ScottG, "man bash", see section titled REDIRECTION |
| 06:21.37 | ScottG | yoshio: yea, was just looking at it |
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| 06:21.45 | ScottG | yoshio: yea, was just looking at it |
| 06:21.53 | ScottG | bah, i need to get to sleep thoug |
| 06:22.41 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | !sleep |
| 06:22.42 | dpkg | methinks sleep is for wimpy organic beings. Or, sleep is probably a poor substitute for coffee or for mortals or for the weak or the glory of the cowards and the un-caffeinateds. :-) or the activity of choice for the intelligent person or time which could be spent hacking the planet.. or .. whatever .. ZZzzzz ... fsck: warning: /dev/brain has gone countless hours without being checked. Check forced. zZZzzzz... *zonk* |
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| 06:24.57 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | that's one awesome factoid |
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| 06:25.38 | alyur | !eat |
| 06:25.38 | dpkg | eats alyur's ass! |
| 06:25.48 | X-Raimo | I've this: "configure: error: library 'crypto' is required for OpenSSL" while configure freerdp from sources.Where can I find crypto for openssl? |
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| 06:29.05 | IWnDl1PiyscjE | !eat /proc/self |
| 06:29.05 | dpkg | eats /proc/self, *CHOMP* *CHOMP* *CHOMP* |
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| 06:44.50 | Accelerator | <Accelerator> /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
| 06:44.50 | Accelerator | <Accelerator> Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld failed! |
| 06:44.51 | Accelerator | <Accelerator> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld already running. |
| 06:44.51 | Accelerator | <Accelerator> /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 06:44.51 | Accelerator | <Accelerator> error: 'Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)' <- MySQL is giving this error. How can I fix it? How do I ensure the credentials it's using are correct, if that's the problem? |
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| 06:45.08 | Accelerator | Was sent here by mySQL. |
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| 06:46.51 | r15 | Accelerator: your mysql is not stopping when you doing a restart. |
| 06:47.26 | Accelerator | I noticed. |
| 06:47.48 | r15 | if you want to show multiple lines, please use http://paste.debian.net |
| 06:47.59 | r15 | is it a production server? |
| 06:48.43 | r15 | your access denied message appears to be a credential issue. |
| 06:49.03 | Accelerator | So how do I fix that? |
| 06:49.09 | Accelerator | How can I change the credentials it's trying to use? |
| 06:49.38 | r15 | i asked, is it a production database? |
| 06:49.52 | Accelerator | Define what you mean by that.. |
| 06:50.16 | r15 | some valuable data in mysql? |
| 06:50.22 | r15 | or it's a fresh install? |
| 06:50.25 | Accelerator | Yes. |
| 06:50.30 | Accelerator | I already made a backup of the tables. |
| 06:50.43 | Accelerator | in /var/lib/mysql, I've learned to do that already. |
| 06:50.51 | r15 | ok |
| 06:51.20 | Accelerator | My server technicians actually responded a lot quicker then I expcected, so they might be able to fix it for me. |
| 06:51.39 | r15 | did you tried mysql -h localhost -u root -p and hit enter (just try in case root password was not set). |
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| 06:53.09 | Accelerator | Yeah. It's refusing the password I used, which leads me to believe my technicians changed it when they screwed it up before. |
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| 06:54.01 | r15 | your mysqld is not stopping cleanly, check with sh -x /etc/init.d/mysql stop see where is it getting stuck, as well as check mysql logs. |
| 06:54.17 | r15 | what is your exact issue? login issue or something else? |
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| 06:59.48 | CyberDomovoy | i'm setting up a mirror on my lan, i thought about apt-mirror, but ftpsync seems better solution in the long term. But, i'd like to mirror only amd64/sid/main, with EXCLUDE_ARCH i can get amd64 only, but how can i exclude stable and testing, and contrib and non-free? |
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| 07:08.16 | tuv | is there convenient screen sharing tool (view-only) that does not require port forwarding? |
| 07:08.37 | tuv | i'm using skype for now, but the view is too small to be usable |
| 07:08.41 | ov3rmind | hi there |
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| 07:10.31 | tuv | CyberDomovoy: did you consider caching/proxy instead of a mirror, if it works for you? |
| 07:10.46 | tuv | kinda on-demand vs. mirror everything |
| 07:14.14 | CyberDomovoy | tuv: well, i'm planning on making my own "distrib" based on debian, simple stuff but since i install a lot of debian everywhere and often make changes to config and such... so caching is not what i need, i'm actually setting up something that set up my own debian mirror, mailing me when my modified packages get updated, so that i can handle it |
| 07:14.56 | bonjoyee | how to check dongle is bluetooth version 1.2 or 2.0? |
| 07:15.50 | CyberDomovoy | ftpsync conf have a EXCLUDE variable, but it clearly says using it for excluding suites won't work (wonder why... but i guess those who wrote it knows better than me) |
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| 07:18.24 | tuv | CyberDomovoy: ah.. maybe http://mirrorer.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 07:18.31 | tuv | aka reprepro |
| 07:19.43 | CyberDomovoy | tuv: ho, started to use reprepro to add my own packages to my repo, didn't know it could be used to mirror them, looking for it |
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| 07:20.24 | rafuch0 | i am trying to uninstall wx-config |
| 07:20.44 | rafuch0 | but i dont know what package to purge to do that |
| 07:20.54 | rafuch0 | how can i know this ? |
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| 07:21.37 | bonjoyee | how to check dongle is bluetooth version 1.2 or 2.0? |
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| 07:23.21 | yoshio | ,file wx-config |
| 07:23.24 | judd | No packages were found with that file. |
| 07:24.11 | yoshio | rafuch0, apt-file find wx-config says: wx-common: /usr/share/man/man1/wx-config.1.gz |
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| 07:25.53 | oOarthurOo | halp.. using mplayer.. want to play a movie with .sub subtitles. Help says to "pass MPlayer the -vobsub sample [-vobsubid id]", but I have no idea what this means |
| 07:25.54 | rafuch0 | i uninstall wx-common |
| 07:25.58 | yoshio | rafuch0, and aptitude show wx-config says: Replaces: libwxgtk2.4-contrib-dev, wx2.6-common, wxwin2.4-headers (depends has libwxbase2.8-0) |
| 07:26.01 | rafuch0 | and is still there |
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| 07:29.54 | yoshio | rafuch0, I'm guessing that the file is one you created, not one installed by a package. the package manager won't remove your custom files. is it in /etc ? |
| 07:30.40 | rafuch0 | yes i mean i compile from the soruce the thing .... i YES i check whit wx-config --release and is the version that i install from the source |
| 07:30.55 | rafuch0 | but now i go to source dir and do make uninstall |
| 07:31.08 | rafuch0 | and the thing is still there |
| 07:34.37 | rafuch0 | that is weird is still there looking at me |
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| 07:34.54 | rafuch0 | how is posible if i did make uninstall |
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| 07:35.08 | rafuch0 | no repo packages are installed |
| 07:35.15 | rafuch0 | and is there ..... |
| 07:36.18 | rafuch0 | laughing laughing of me!!! |
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| 07:44.42 | oOarthurOo | ok.. got problem somehwat solved. subs are out of sync by -21.5 seconds. can i fix this with mplayer movie.avi some command? |
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| 07:46.31 | sobersabre | hi, need help with daemontools: I don't undersand if installing daemontools + daemontools-run would suffice to make sure the service I want - is started on system boot by supervise. |
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| 07:48.05 | oOarthurOo | ps.,.. got a date here waiting for me to fix this, plz guys come through! |
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| 07:49.18 | yoshio | o0arthur0o: -subdelay <sec> |
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| 07:58.02 | spope | can anyone think why a script wouldnt run in /etc/cron.daily? it used to run fine, and it runs fine from the commandline, but now in cron.daily it doesnt work. |
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| 08:01.41 | f00li5h | it is run with fewer environment variables than as a user, and it might be run as a different user in cront |
| 08:01.51 | yoshio | spope: man run-parts says no periods allowed in the filename |
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| 08:03.39 | sobersabre | spope: do you redirect script's std[out,err] to /dev/null ? |
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| 08:06.02 | CyberDomovoy | tuv: reprepro seems to be able to do very much, i'm reading it's manual, and have to say i'm pretty impressed by its flexibility and abilities, thanks for the advice |
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| 08:08.05 | rubin110 | When I try to start up NFS, I see this error. http://rubin110.pastebin.com/JB9d4fAx |
| 08:08.08 | rubin110 | Halp. |
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| 08:09.09 | Matt3o | hi guys, I've found a spare ARM based miniboard, it comes from a NAS server I think, do you think it would be horribly difficult to install debian (or whatever) on it? (It has no video out, just ethernet, usb and 2 sata) |
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| 08:11.12 | the-dude | Matt3o: will ik we able to boot from any of the devices? |
| 08:12.19 | rafuch0 | i am telling you guys compile electricsheep is one of the hardest thingsi have ever try |
| 08:12.58 | rafuch0 | for a moment i finally got it installed but doesn't work properly ... |
| 08:13.28 | Matt3o | the-dude: well⦠I bet I can but it from eth and surely from sata, but I'm no expert and without video I'm a bit at a deadend |
| 08:13.41 | rafuch0 | the only choice i got is to installed from the repositories .... but is on sid... |
| 08:13.47 | Matt3o | *boot |
| 08:14.07 | rafuch0 | i am on lenny so it will upgrade.... everything |
| 08:14.20 | PsyTrance | hello, where can i change my user name? |
| 08:14.42 | rafuch0 | whit the nick command i think... |
| 08:14.53 | PsyTrance | user name in debian :) |
| 08:15.35 | Matt3o | maybe I have to cross-compile for it? |
| 08:15.46 | the-dude | Matt3o: does it have a serial interface? |
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| 08:15.54 | rafuch0 | ahhh well the usermod command is avalible |
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| 08:17.12 | rafuch0 | PsyTrance: yeah usermod is the way ..... |
| 08:17.20 | rafuch0 | whit the -l flag |
| 08:17.29 | Matt3o | the-dude: unfortunately not. I've heard you can connect from eth (U-boot or something like that, sorry I'm really a newbie at this). |
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| 08:19.03 | PsyTrance | rafuch0: it works, thank you |
| 08:19.18 | phorce1 | Is there a way to reset the usb bus without a reboot so that it quits trying to talk to devices that have been removed? My dmesg screen is full of these ---> scsi 9:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device |
| 08:19.22 | rafuch0 | naaa i am here to help PsyTrance :) |
| 08:20.31 | rafuch0 | well phorce1 what about stop and start udev |
| 08:20.55 | rafuch0 | that shut refresh something ..... |
| 08:21.17 | PsyTrance | :) |
| 08:21.22 | phorce1 | rafuch0: but will that kill devices that are currently connected and running correctly? |
| 08:22.04 | rafuch0 | for a couple a seconds.... yes but then they will grab the stuff again like nothing happen i guess... |
| 08:22.14 | phorce1 | (my machine looks like an octopus of USB and eSATA devices |
| 08:22.17 | phorce1 | ) |
| 08:22.47 | rafuch0 | it worked phorce1 ? |
| 08:23.18 | phorce1 | I just restarted it. have to wait a few minutes to see if the error shows again in syslog |
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| 08:23.46 | Matt3o | I've found an utftpd file though |
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| 08:24.01 | phorce1 | no, it's still happening so restarting udevd didn't work |
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| 08:24.54 | rafuch0 | ahaaa but and udev-mtab |
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| 08:27.13 | phorce1 | missed that one. Just stopped and restarted it. If the error is still there I will stop udevd, stop udev-mtab, start udev-mtab, start udevd |
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| 08:32.52 | phorce1 | this is really annoying. Still get the error. |
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| 08:37.00 | xro | hi, i have a little issue with a server.... When i reboot it i get a "the system bios has detected unsuccessful post attempt(s)" do you know this issue? and how correct it? nobody knows? |
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| 08:41.32 | frikinz | phorce1: did you try rmmoding some drivers and reloading them again? |
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| 09:10.07 | sobersabre | hm |
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| 09:10.31 | sobersabre | hi. I want to download a public key from keyserver and import it to apt-key |
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| 09:10.44 | sobersabre | I did manage to find and to add it to the user's trusted keys. |
| 09:10.50 | sobersabre | with gpg --search-keys |
| 09:11.19 | sobersabre | but I need now to move the key from my own keyring to the apt's |
| 09:11.37 | sobersabre | and I'm missing either a doc or some instruction on it. |
| 09:11.47 | sobersabre | please advice. |
| 09:12.45 | frikinz | You have to read apt-key man page |
| 09:12.58 | sobersabre | frikinz: I know how to get a key from URL |
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| 09:13.06 | sobersabre | I know how to import a file to apt |
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| 09:13.27 | sobersabre | can you point me to specific section/keyword ? |
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| 09:16.02 | frikinz | sobersabre: can't remember but google shows this example: gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add - |
| 09:17.11 | Bop | anyone knows a good odt 2 pdf converter on liunx ? |
| 09:17.15 | sobersabre | frikinz: cool! thanks! |
| 09:17.20 | sobersabre | Bop: openoffice |
| 09:17.30 | sobersabre | with python, uno, etc. |
| 09:17.37 | Bop | OpenOffice doesnt save in PDF , sobersabre ? |
| 09:17.40 | Bop | or im wrong ? |
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| 09:17.44 | sobersabre | you are wrong. |
| 09:17.49 | D4rKr0W | ^ |
| 09:17.55 | Bop | ok seen it |
| 09:17.57 | Bop | export to pdf |
| 09:17.58 | Bop | :p |
| 09:18.01 | Bop | sorry |
| 09:18.17 | sobersabre | Bop: you can also do this programmatically, but it is a bit messy. |
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| 09:21.08 | Bop | ok |
| 09:21.09 | Bop | thanks |
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| 10:04.45 | alcy | Is it possible to build a package from its already installed set of files (dpkg -L), with no .deb or access to repositories ? |
| 10:05.15 | alcy | re-assembly of a deb package from its contents, mainly |
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| 10:10.10 | serge_sans_paill | hello all |
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| 10:12.12 | serge_sans_paill | as the developer of a package, how can I report the fact that the debian package of my version is 8 years old ? |
| 10:12.40 | serge_sans_paill | the maintainer does not seem to have the time to answer bug reports |
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| 10:17.00 | Fossilet | Is there any socks server software? |
| 10:17.17 | phaidros | hi, how do I startx on a read-only filesystem (fs is RO on purpose, exhibition computer ..)? can I specify a different place for .Xauthority like in /tmp via startx ? |
| 10:17.19 | Fossilet | I want to setup a socks proxy on my VPS. |
| 10:17.32 | llutz_ | Fossilet: dante |
| 10:17.33 | phaidros | Fossilet: tor ;) |
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| 10:18.14 | Fossilet | Is it as easy as setup a HTTP proxy like tinyproxy or polipo? ;) |
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| 10:22.50 | richo | Hi |
| 10:22.57 | richo | I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask |
| 10:23.07 | richo | I installed apache and mod-php via aptitude |
| 10:23.18 | richo | if I load sites-enabled/php5.load |
| 10:23.22 | richo | but not php5.conf |
| 10:23.30 | richo | it still registers the .php extension handler |
| 10:23.42 | richo | is this a debian specific thing or should I be hassling #php/#apache |
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| 10:27.27 | oskie | how do you troubleshoot network problems at layer 1/2 in linux? with ifconfig I can see no RX or TX packets |
| 10:27.56 | OpenTokix | richo: mod-php will add the correct conf-files for you in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled when you install php. - Those files should not be in sites-* |
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| 10:28.30 | OpenTokix | oskie: tcpdump, wireshark? |
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| 10:28.35 | richo | OpenTokix: sorry, mods enabled. my bad |
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| 10:28.49 | richo | OpenTokix: in any case, it did add them, I removed them.. and php is still doing it's thing |
| 10:28.57 | OpenTokix | richo: did you stop and start apache? |
| 10:29.07 | richo | OpenTokix: Several times |
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| 10:29.21 | OpenTokix | richo: And did you remove both php5.conf and php5.load? |
| 10:29.28 | richo | only php5.conf |
| 10:29.33 | richo | I want apache to know how to process php files |
| 10:29.40 | richo | I just want to only enable it for a few vhosts |
| 10:29.53 | richo | and have the option of my mod_userdir users enabling it with htaccess |
| 10:30.43 | oskie | OpenTokix: tcpdump isn't seeing any traffic! even when I ping! |
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| 10:31.42 | OpenTokix | oskie: Even -x -XX -s 0 -vv ? |
| 10:31.47 | OpenTokix | oskie: Even -x -X -s 0 -vv ? |
| 10:31.49 | OpenTokix | sorry, only one X |
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| 10:33.42 | zanzibuj | hi all |
| 10:34.02 | zanzibuj | I have a project to compile that has a configure.in file |
| 10:34.13 | zanzibuj | I get this error: |
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| 10:35.00 | zanzibuj | blablabla/cstdlib ::malloc has not been declared |
| 10:36.19 | zanzibuj | my cstdlib is in another folder, do you know how can I inform the compiler that the library is in another folder_ |
| 10:36.36 | zanzibuj | ? |
| 10:37.07 | serge_sans_paill | depending on how the configure.in is wriiten, you could try to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH accordingly |
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| 10:38.16 | zanzibuj | serge_sans_paill: uhm so I have to do a thing like: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/mypath ? |
| 10:38.44 | serge_sans_paill | something like LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/mypath ./configure --other-flags |
| 10:39.29 | zanzibuj | uhm ok as I thought |
| 10:39.43 | zanzibuj | but do I need some specific flag_ |
| 10:39.45 | zanzibuj | ? |
| 10:41.09 | serge_sans_paill | whet is the output of configure --help ? |
| 10:41.39 | zanzibuj | serge_sans_paill: I can-t paste here because it-s in another computer |
| 10:41.46 | zanzibuj | that has no connection |
| 10:41.51 | serge_sans_paill | ok |
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| 10:42.06 | zanzibuj | there are a lot of options |
| 10:42.38 | serge_sans_paill | maybe --with-PACKAGE[=ARG] or --enable-FEATURE[=ARG] |
| 10:43.05 | zanzibuj | yes there are that options |
| 10:43.12 | serge_sans_paill | it really depends on how well the configure script is written |
| 10:43.25 | autoditac1 | hi. does the squeeze installer fire up an ssh server automatically so i can install debian on a server that doesn't have a vga card nor a working serial device? |
| 10:43.35 | richo | Gah, why the hell is php trying to take over?? |
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| 10:43.35 | zanzibuj | uhm but what argument should I write? |
| 10:43.40 | autoditac1 | or do i need a custom image for that? |
| 10:44.13 | serge_sans_paill | zanzibuj, ARG should be the path to the lib |
| 10:44.29 | petemc | autoditac1: read up on netconsole |
| 10:45.02 | zanzibuj | serge_sans_paill: ah ok got it |
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| 10:45.21 | zanzibuj | I`m going to try it, thank you very much |
| 10:45.31 | serge_sans_paill | :) |
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| 10:52.39 | autoditac1 | petemc: thanks for the hint. i only found an ubuntu documentation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole) - do i understand correctly that i have to modify the netboot image to include a preseed file that makes the installer fire up the netconsole? |
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| 10:54.49 | faheem | hi. having a problem importing python modules after upgrade to squeeze |
| 10:55.30 | faheem | is /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ the right place to put local packages? |
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| 11:25.15 | rozie | hello. need backup with LXDE settings |
| 11:26.02 | rozie | I use lxinput and lxrandr to set mouse sensitivity and resolution, but it looks like changes aren't saved |
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| 11:26.35 | rozie | when I run lxinput once again, it's default, not what I chose |
| 11:26.48 | rozie | same with resolution - works until logoff and logon |
| 11:26.57 | rozie | Squeeze, fresh install |
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| 11:28.45 | phaidros | is there any howto around to create a read only sysstem (to make it switch-off prone), can only find recommendations how to make readonly filesystems writable again :/ |
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| 11:29.25 | phaidros | I run into troubles with mounting /tmp as tmpfs as soon as I make /ro. further my sd card gets not mounted on a ro / |
| 11:29.41 | phaidros | without a writale /tmp I have no way of autostarting X etc etc .. |
| 11:29.54 | phaidros | so, anyone a hint for creating a readonly system? |
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| 11:40.12 | ixti | phaidros: you can use ramfs to have writeable tmp |
| 11:40.22 | ixti | without allowing to write on hdd |
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| 11:41.14 | ixti | sorry. simply ignore my two previous messages |
| 11:41.16 | rozie | there's good wiki on this |
| 11:41.17 | fenugreek | rozie: is LXSession running? |
| 11:41.24 | rozie | fenugreek: yes it is |
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| 11:41.40 | rozie | /usr/bin/lxsession -s LXDE -e LXDE |
| 11:41.41 | ixti | need to have a sleep |
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| 11:42.02 | fenugreek | rozie: you might stop X, mv ~/.cache ~/backup.cache, re-start X, see if you get any better results |
| 11:42.11 | rozie | phaidros: http://wiki.debian.org/ReadonlyRoot |
| 11:42.32 | sobersabre | jupiter:/export/webapps /public/webapps nfs intr 0 0 |
| 11:42.35 | sobersabre | jupiter:/export/content /public/content nfs intr 0 0 |
| 11:42.38 | sobersabre | pgother:/pgstorage /pgme nfs intr 0 0 |
| 11:42.40 | sobersabre | :-/ |
| 11:42.42 | sobersabre | /pgstorage /pgother bind bind 0 0 |
| 11:42.45 | sobersabre | hm.. wrong term. |
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| 11:45.17 | phaidros | rozie: thx |
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| 11:59.51 | panierter_panda | Hi guys. I´m using ipplan and I want to change the operation mode to ISP-Mode. Where do I do this? In the online-manual they only describe, that there exists an ISP-Mode, but not how to enable/change to this mode. |
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| 12:15.22 | sec_goat | is there a way to make sure my machine will accept incoming ssh from outside my network? I have ssh instlled and can ssh to it from local, I have my firewal port forwarding ssh to the machine, is there anything else i am missing? |
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| 12:18.14 | sep | sec_goat, just make sure your internal machine does not change ip. so that your portforwarding does not break. and you are good |
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| 12:19.03 | sec_goat | sep: i guess that would be my next question, How do I set a static Ip, I tried using Network Manager and it did not work Oh it looked like I had set it, but i no longer had networ afterwords |
| 12:19.24 | sec_goat | i know I know, im googling now |
| 12:19.27 | sep | sec_goat, i tend to set a static reservation in my dhcp server. |
| 12:19.50 | sec_goat | sep: yep first 20 addresses are reserver for static |
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| 12:19.53 | sep | if you want a real static one you edit the interfaces file (man interfaces) |
| 12:20.02 | sec_goat | 192.168.1-20 or somehting |
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| 12:20.05 | sec_goat | oooh |
| 12:20.23 | stix | hi guys. Does debian use /etc/sudoers? The file doesn't exist. |
| 12:20.44 | petern_ | it does if you install sudo |
| 12:21.02 | sec_goat | I usually use SU . . . which probably isnt best practice? |
| 12:21.05 | acemi | you need to install sudo package, if you need it |
| 12:21.21 | sep | stix and you usualy want to edit it using the visudo |
| 12:21.41 | stix | thank you :) |
| 12:21.44 | abrotman | sec_goat: they both have advantages and disadvantages |
| 12:21.52 | sep | sec_goat, there are more then one way, they are just different |
| 12:22.31 | sec_goat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:23.45 | sec_goat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:26.06 | acemi | sec_goat: create a startup script in /etc/init.d/ and then update-rc.d |
| 12:26.10 | abrotman | !tell sec_goat about run at startup |
| 12:26.59 | sec_goat | hmm thanks guys |
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| 12:30.52 | stix | Can I set a flag on a user, that will ask the user to set a new password at next login? |
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| 12:31.52 | abrotman | stix: man passwd |
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| 12:32.36 | stix | got it :) |
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| 12:38.58 | iceroot | is there a way to see which ways ping is going? so that i can see what is blocking my ping-requests |
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| 12:40.38 | poisonbit | iceroot, I use to use: mtr $TARGET (apt-get install mtr-tiny) |
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| 12:41.12 | iceroot | poisonbit: thank you, i will have a look at that package |
| 12:41.32 | poisonbit | else you can use traceroute (but I prefer mtr :) |
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| 12:45.55 | iceroot | poisonbit: both working fine, thank you |
| 12:46.33 | phaidros | where is the path for the xserver logs set? |
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| 12:48.32 | bolt | phaidros: /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 12:48.36 | bolt | phaidros: ERRFILE variable |
| 12:48.43 | phaidros | bolt: thx |
| 12:48.56 | elkng | does debian have option to install it from *.iso files, can I boot from some boot-mini-cd and use images on harddrive? |
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| 12:49.23 | bolt | elkng: any reason why you can't just use the netinstall? |
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| 12:49.50 | poisonbit | elkng, it's documented/translated in the installer guide (what it can do and how) |
| 12:50.09 | stew | elkng: /msg dpkg ig |
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| 12:52.16 | poisonbit | People brains, use to not be able to remeber _every_ "what and how" can do _every_ available software. Manuals are gold. |
| 12:52.17 | elkng | ok |
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| 14:16.29 | lemmy | Hi, looks like there exists a serious remote attack for exim (http://www.exim.org/lurker/message/20101207.215955.bb32d4f2.en.html). Anything one can do about it immediately? |
| 14:16.45 | petemc | chmod u-s /usr/sbin/exim4 |
| 14:16.50 | rwmjones | anyone know how I do a Build-Depends for linux-image (ie. kernel) >= 2.6.36? |
| 14:17.28 | petemc | lemmy: remove the setuid bit as per the discussion on exim-dev, that has consequences also mentioned |
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| 14:18.52 | acemi | rwmjones: aptitude build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r) |
| 14:19.11 | rwmjones | acemi: thanks, but I mean in a debian/control file |
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| 14:20.29 | lemmy | petemc: my current setup requires me to have setuid set (local delivery), so I'm currently looking into recompiling exim with ALT_CONFIG_PREFIX flag. |
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| 14:31.42 | frikinz | Looks like there is also a local linux kernel exploit. Either local privilege escalation or crash |
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| 14:32.09 | iceroot | frikinz: the oops-exploit? |
| 14:32.26 | frikinz | http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Dec/85 |
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| 14:33.03 | frikinz | iceroot: yes |
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| 14:34.31 | frikinz | works on 2.6.35-rc6 in experimental .. |
| 14:35.27 | iceroot | frikinz: but not on lenny and squeeze |
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| 14:38.59 | djszapi | how can I check which package owns a file on my system ? |
| 14:39.05 | petemc | dpkg -S |
| 14:39.05 | dpkg | no idea, petemc |
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| 14:39.59 | djszapi | ty |
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| 14:41.04 | simonrvn | dpkg: -S is <reply>$nick's private secret stash of files in $nick-1 |
| 14:41.04 | dpkg | There is no record of a is <reply>$nick's private secret stash of files in $nick-1 package |
| 14:41.14 | simonrvn | shoot |
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| 14:45.46 | Bombo | hi, i installed NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.14-pkg1.run on debian/testing but when i start x i get 'dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so: undefined symbol: AllocateScreenPrivateIndex' anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 14:46.06 | hkuieagle | hello |
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| 14:47.21 | hkuieagle | When I turn off my computer, I got this error:" unmounting local filesystem\n, Failed /var device busy" |
| 14:48.07 | hkuieagle | what goes wrong here? |
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| 14:49.10 | hkuieagle | I'm using squeeze |
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| 14:55.44 | bonjoyee | how do i check if my bluetooth dongle is version 1.2 or 2.0 and support EDR? |
| 14:58.09 | hkuieagle | HELP!! |
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| 15:02.30 | arvind_khadri | hkuieagle, does it happen everytime? |
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| 15:03.28 | hkuieagle | arvind_khadri: yes |
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| 15:04.31 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 15:07.15 | Bombo | how do i install xorg 1.4 on squeeze? |
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| 15:07.46 | hkuieagle | arvind_khadri: I've added some testing codes in the umountfs script,see if I can fix it next time |
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| 15:08.30 | arvind_khadri | hkuieagle, thats nice.. |
| 15:09.35 | hkuieagle | arvind_khadri: If anything remains wrong, I'll be back here ;), time for bed |
| 15:10.08 | arvind_khadri | hkuieagle, sure :) but I dont know anything, someone else would surely help you. |
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| 15:16.19 | aidan | Can someone recommend some some tools for monitoring my server? It's melted down a few days ago and had to be rebooted, so I'd like to be able to see what the average server load is, when it spiked, etc ... |
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| 15:17.57 | jhutchins_lt | aidan: sysstat, nagios |
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| 15:20.55 | aidan | cool, thanks |
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| 15:21.05 | arvind_khadri | !tell aidan about nagios |
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| 15:23.13 | Chosi | munin |
| 15:23.31 | Chosi | >see what the average server load is, when it spiked, etc |
| 15:23.37 | Flash__ | aidan, munin is a lot easier and does what you want |
| 15:24.59 | aidan | looks up munin |
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| 15:25.28 | aidan | their tagline is certainly appropriate, "what just happened to kill our performance?" |
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| 15:27.36 | abrotman | dunno if it tells you *what* killed it? |
| 15:29.23 | petrolman | Which tool can I use to benchmark a hw raid 6 system (md3000i)? |
| 15:29.49 | dkr | bonnie++ |
| 15:30.08 | petrolman | ok, thanks |
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| 15:34.37 | arezey | hi - i'm trying to install debian using the net installer via an usb stick |
| 15:34.43 | arezey | however, the installer is convinced that it's on a cd |
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| 15:34.53 | arezey | and therefore it cannot mount the supposed cd |
| 15:35.13 | arezey | how can i tell it which drive it's on? |
| 15:36.17 | abrotman | it technically is on a CD |
| 15:36.18 | abrotman | !netinst |
| 15:36.19 | dpkg | netinst is, like, a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <various cd1>, <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
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| 15:36.50 | arezey | hm |
| 15:36.52 | arezey | !usb install |
| 15:36.52 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 15:37.30 | sec_goat | does any one have any experience with ddclient? http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/ddclient |
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| 15:44.30 | gandhijee | hey, how do i install the asterisk source code? |
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| 15:44.58 | petemc | !source |
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| 15:44.58 | dpkg | As an overview: to work with Debian source packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a location with free space; download the source package with <apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use <dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details, also ask me about <package recompile> <backport> <nmg> <policy> <source package> |
| 15:45.56 | jhutchins_lt | arezey: An alternative is to use unetbootin to create the usb installer. |
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| 15:48.07 | gandhijee | thanks petemc |
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| 15:52.19 | malkomal_ | does anyone know a way I can list of the loaded pam modules? |
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| 15:59.19 | azazul | hi peeps |
| 15:59.48 | azazul | can someone point me to a manual on Debian 5 about installing php5.3 ? |
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| 16:00.56 | pipeline | not a lot of patience, there |
| 16:01.09 | azazul | no .. closed the wrong tab |
| 16:01.21 | azazul | question is still importatn =] |
| 16:01.25 | azazul | *important |
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| 16:03.26 | dkr | azazul: uhm, just aptitude install it and read the docs on how to configure it like any other software |
| 16:04.54 | pipeline | azazul: if you don't like the version of php made available (apt-cache show php) investigate backports.org |
| 16:05.25 | azazul | dkr: its not for me actually |
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| 16:06.36 | azazul | i kinda need something to tells hosting company , which has been doing nothing for 2 days already |
| 16:06.57 | azazul | "because debian 5 doesnt have php 5.3.x package" |
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| 16:08.40 | dkr | judd: versions php5 |
| 16:08.42 | judd | Package php5 on i386 -- etch: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; etch-security: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; sid: 5.3.2-1; sid: 5.3.3-5; squeeze: 5.3.3-5; sid: 5.3.3-6 |
| 16:08.54 | pipeline | azazul: Yep. Ask them to consider backports.org. |
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| 16:10.20 | breardo | hello |
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| 16:10.53 | breardo | does anyone know of a viable link that could provide information on properly setting up OCFS2 in Debian? |
| 16:11.03 | breardo | what i've found appears to be outdated |
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| 16:11.41 | azazul | pipeline: is that some repository ( im kinda BSD guy .. no clue about debian ) |
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| 16:12.06 | pipeline | breardo: debian includes ocfs2... just install the ocfs2-tools package and off you go |
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| 16:12.18 | pipeline | azazul: backports.org is a third party repository that builds new versions of software for debian stable |
| 16:12.30 | breardo | yeah I can run ocfs2console and such.. just looking for some more detailed information on running it.. |
| 16:12.33 | pipeline | azazul: I can't vouch for the package quality, but it's certainly *easier* than doing your own backports... |
| 16:12.35 | breardo | cant seem to get it going at the moment |
| 16:12.54 | breardo | im sure its a trivial issue.. figured some current documentation might point me in the right path |
| 16:13.02 | pipeline | breardo: ...consult the ocfs2 documentation. The hard part, getting OCFS2 installed on a non-RHEL distribution, is done for you. |
| 16:13.21 | pipeline | breardo: if you have a more specific problem than "I don't know what to do," the channel can probably help you. |
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| 16:13.50 | pipeline | breardo: incidentally debian packages typically stuff the upstream documentation in /usr/share/doc/$PACKAGE_NAME |
| 16:14.02 | breardo | well.. I'll work on it myself for a while yet.. i like to solve these things on my own when possible |
| 16:14.12 | pipeline | breardo: if you just can't find the ocfs2 docs, that is where they are likely to be located... oracle's ocfs2 site is also a good candidate |
| 16:14.14 | breardo | thanks |
| 16:14.21 | breardo | i appreciate the advice :) |
| 16:14.45 | breardo | im not in a time crunch.. so I'll take my time and read |
| 16:15.21 | breardo | thanks.. there is relevant documentation there in /usr/share/doc/ |
| 16:15.45 | breardo | users_guide.tar.gz :) |
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| 16:17.12 | pipeline | go figure |
| 16:17.21 | pipeline | I wonder what OCFS2's future looks like now that oracle owns Solaris |
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| 16:18.37 | breardo | yeah im wondering the same thing |
| 16:18.48 | breardo | i see that 1.6 is "only" available in Oracle Linux |
| 16:18.51 | breardo | thats concerning |
| 16:19.08 | breardo | I just dont know about viable alternatives for a networkable FS>. |
| 16:19.12 | breardo | do you k? |
| 16:19.20 | breardo | err.. do you know of any that might do the same job? |
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| 16:20.21 | breardo | i heard of GFS but never looked into it.. |
| 16:20.23 | dkr | gfs? clusterfs? drdb? |
| 16:20.30 | breardo | drdb is a fs??? |
| 16:20.34 | breardo | where the hell have I been |
| 16:20.58 | pipeline | drbd is a distributed block doohickey |
| 16:21.11 | breardo | i heard its slow. but I also hear good things about it as well |
| 16:21.13 | pipeline | ocfs2 1.6 isn't "only" available in oracle linux |
| 16:21.24 | breardo | thats what it says on the OCFS2 page |
| 16:21.33 | pipeline | heh I had drbd fuck me over a couple years ago. I am unwilling to investigate it again. Once burnt, twice shy. |
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| 16:22.00 | pipeline | ocfs2 isn't exclusive to any distribution |
| 16:22.05 | breardo | OCFS2 1.6 is only available with the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel. Users wishing to upgrade to the new release must logon to the Unbreakable Linux Network (ULN) and subscribe to the Oracle Linux 5 Latest channel. |
| 16:22.10 | pipeline | wtf |
| 16:22.12 | breardo | I figured the same thing pipeline.. just saying |
| 16:22.15 | pipeline | I think that just means |
| 16:22.19 | pipeline | they're no longer offering the RPMs for free |
| 16:22.26 | breardo | those asshats |
| 16:22.28 | pipeline | for many years you could just grab prebuilt RHEL RPMs off the ocfs2 site |
| 16:22.34 | pipeline | and they would "just work" in your rhel system |
| 16:22.47 | breardo | ever do anything with GFS? |
| 16:22.47 | pipeline | I expect the source release is still available. |
| 16:22.51 | breardo | your probably right.. let me see |
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| 16:23.09 | breardo | they say active OCFS2 development happens in mainline |
| 16:23.15 | pipeline | yeah the kernel stuff |
| 16:23.15 | breardo | so 1.6 must be available |
| 16:23.25 | breardo | just not the tools then eh |
| 16:23.38 | pipeline | who knows |
| 16:23.50 | breardo | source download is only available up to 1.4 |
| 16:23.53 | pipeline | I really liked working with ocfs2 and found it to be very predictably trouble-free |
| 16:23.53 | breardo | on the oracle ocfs2 site |
| 16:24.02 | breardo | yeah thats why I want to run it :) |
| 16:24.07 | breardo | but I want to run it on Debian :) |
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| 16:24.21 | breardo | oh well im sure 1.4 will suffice |
| 16:24.24 | pipeline | ocfs2 1.6 source is actualyl available on the "ocfs2-tools" site |
| 16:24.28 | breardo | but.. looking forward.. dunno |
| 16:24.42 | pipeline | I imagine the reason debian comes with 1.4 is that the 2.6.32 kernel still has 1.4 |
| 16:24.57 | pipeline | the only thing to keep in mind |
| 16:25.03 | pipeline | do you really need a cluster filesystem ? :P |
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| 16:25.08 | breardo | i believe so |
| 16:25.10 | pipeline | also: do you have an odd number of nodes? 2-node ocfs2 *sucks* |
| 16:25.15 | breardo | oh really? |
| 16:25.16 | breardo | hmm.. |
| 16:25.20 | breardo | well let me explain my situation |
| 16:25.38 | pipeline | well that's true of every clustered system... you have to have some kind of quorum to handle isolation response |
| 16:25.47 | pipeline | ocfs2 quorum is simlpe -- can I ping at least one peer? ok let's roll |
| 16:25.48 | breardo | i have two 16TB servers acting as "SAN" boxes.. |
| 16:26.05 | breardo | I want to run Xen images from the SAN |
| 16:26.11 | breardo | I want the two SAN's to be replicated mirror images of each other |
| 16:26.21 | breardo | effectively there is only one available SAN device.. |
| 16:26.28 | pipeline | yeah I think ocfs2 is the wrong technology |
| 16:26.36 | breardo | I figured I could rock OCFS2 between the two SANs to get the on-the-fly replicatoon |
| 16:26.44 | pipeline | ocfs2 is for when you have shared storage (e.g. a SAN LUN on both boxes, shared SCSI target, etc) |
| 16:26.49 | breardo | and then just mount the OCFS2 fs from the Xen server via iSCSI |
| 16:26.50 | pipeline | and you want both systems to use the same filesystem |
| 16:27.10 | pipeline | breardo: in that case ocfs2 runs as a cluster on the Xen boxes |
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| 16:27.20 | breardo | yeah that makes sense |
| 16:27.29 | breardo | they'd each be a node then |
| 16:27.32 | pipeline | the first part of this plan is sensible |
| 16:27.42 | pipeline | say, 3x Xen boxes acting as an OCFS2 cluster |
| 16:27.54 | pipeline | with a shared iSCSI target as the backing LUN for OCFS2 |
| 16:28.05 | pipeline | the problem is how you get your iSCSI failover between nodes |
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| 16:28.17 | pipeline | that's largely outside my expertise, I've always worked with COTS solutions for that end of the problem |
| 16:28.21 | breardo | I figured that'd all be done inline |
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| 16:29.52 | breardo | brb |
| 16:29.54 | pipeline | breardo: nope, these are separate parts. For the target, investigate IET and SCST. SCST is faster/better/more compatible but IET is easier to set up. The block replication is the hard problem... drbd is the only solution I know of, but I'm sure there are others. Gotta run. |
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| 16:31.33 | breardo | thanks for the advice |
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| 16:33.52 | Agiofws | http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=7404 |
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| 16:35.20 | oneone | Hi! I'm currently running Ubuntu Netbook Remix. But I've decided that I want to install Debian instead. Is there anything I should check and perhaps take a note of before I install Debian to make it easier for me? |
| 16:36.41 | disposable | breardo: mogilefs? but that won't give you concurrent access, just replication |
| 16:37.08 | \ottizen | oneone: Backup your files. |
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| 16:37.25 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 16:37.32 | lenswipe | im having trouble using synaptic |
| 16:37.39 | lenswipe | i get the following error if i try and install any packages: http://pastebin.com/7wvhq4Az |
| 16:37.49 | stew | oneone: perhaps the output of "lsmod" and "lspci -nnk" |
| 16:38.17 | lenswipe | stew, any ideas? |
| 16:38.28 | \ottizen | lenswipe: howdy |
| 16:38.32 | \ottizen | lenswipe: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 16:38.35 | lenswipe | this is a fresh lenny install and its already broken in about 10 million different ways |
| 16:38.36 | \ottizen | lenswipe: What does that give you? |
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| 16:39.00 | \ottizen | + what does "nslookup ftp.uk.debian.org" give you? |
| 16:39.01 | lenswipe | \ottizen, http://pastebin.com/WdjsYtu2 |
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| 16:39.27 | lenswipe | http://pastebin.com/GacbmJ85 |
| 16:39.28 | cherwin | \ottizen: debian.hands.com. |
| 16:39.29 | cherwin | 83.142.228.128 |
| 16:39.30 | Bushmills | "Network is unreachable" may give you a hint |
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| 16:39.39 | lenswipe | Bushmills, what hint should it give me? |
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| 16:39.58 | cherwin | Man, I love this site http://www.zombo.com |
| 16:40.00 | \ottizen | cherwin: Try to "ping 83.142.228.128". Do you get any replies? |
| 16:40.03 | Bushmills | that your box doesn't manage to connect to the server |
| 16:40.10 | lenswipe | Bushmills, given that im chatting from the affected machine i dont think theres a network problem |
| 16:40.17 | stew | lenswipe: do you have ipv6 connectivity? synaptic seems to be trying to use ipv6 instead of ipv4 |
| 16:40.19 | cherwin | \ottizen: Yes. |
| 16:40.34 | \ottizen | lenswipe: * |
| 16:40.36 | lenswipe | stew, no i dont, and i dont know why thats happening, i had this before with the last lenny install but i cant remember what i did to fix it |
| 16:40.37 | Bushmills | then it is your opinion against programs opinion |
| 16:40.45 | \ottizen | lenswipe: sudo ifconfig |
| 16:40.47 | \ottizen | lenswipe: Output? |
| 16:40.50 | lenswipe | Bushmills, no, its fact against the programs opinion |
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| 16:41.11 | lenswipe | Bushmills, if im chatting over IRC from the machine there obviously isnt any problem with the network connection |
| 16:41.13 | Bushmills | like "if i can use irc, there can't possibly be a network problem" |
| 16:41.20 | \ottizen | :P |
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| 16:41.38 | stew | lenswipe: i don't know how to tell synaptic not to use ipv6. if you don't intend to use ipv6, you could disable it completely, /msg dpkg noipv6 |
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| 16:41.55 | Bushmills | well, then just ignore what the program tells you, as it must be wrong |
| 16:42.00 | disposable | when i'm creating ext4 filesystem, should i use ext4 or ext4dev? |
| 16:42.04 | lenswipe | stew, i think that might be what i did last time |
| 16:42.08 | \ottizen | disposable: ext4 |
| 16:42.14 | lenswipe | Bushmills, well if you have another explaination |
| 16:42.20 | disposable | what's ext4dev? |
| 16:42.40 | lolzie | Hi guys, my package managment seems to be broken :( http://pastebin.com/SG0d43gY |
| 16:42.45 | stew | lenswipe: the explanation is that you and the program are trying to use completely different networks |
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| 16:42.49 | Bushmills | none which doesn't involve some (non-IRC) network problems |
| 16:42.49 | \ottizen | disposable: For those who are interested in developing file systems. |
| 16:42.53 | lenswipe | stew, right |
| 16:43.00 | lolzie | Any ideas how I can solve this one? I want to install g++ (fixing my dpkg issues would be awesome too) |
| 16:43.28 | lenswipe | stew, i dont understand where ipv6 has suddenly sprung from, it wasnt doing this yesterday |
| 16:43.31 | stew | lolzie: show us the output of "apt-cache policy g++ cpp libc6" |
| 16:43.48 | lenswipe | stew, what is it with debian? why does it just randomly do things like enable IPv6 for no reason or push a bad xorg update so i have to re-install |
| 16:43.51 | stew | lolzie: and perhaps the output of just "apt-cache policy" |
| 16:44.06 | stew | lenswipe: it doesn't do those things |
| 16:44.13 | lenswipe | it does do those things |
| 16:44.18 | lenswipe | it *DID* do those thigns |
| 16:44.19 | stew | lenswipe: and you shouldn't have to re-install because of an xorg update |
| 16:44.20 | lenswipe | things* |
| 16:44.26 | lenswipe | well i did have to |
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| 16:44.38 | stew | lenswipe: enabling ipv6 happened a long time ago and was not at all random |
| 16:44.57 | lenswipe | there was an xorg update which screwed up compiz, screwed up opengl and so many other things it was easier to re-install than fix the mess |
| 16:45.09 | lenswipe | and it was an xorg update because there was no problem until i installed that update |
| 16:45.27 | stew | this is very quickly feeling like a pointless discussion |
| 16:45.30 | lenswipe | however that aside how do i install flash? |
| 16:45.40 | stew | lenswipe: aptitude install gnash |
| 16:45.47 | lenswipe | yep done that |
| 16:45.56 | lenswipe | i still cant view flash content on the web |
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| 16:46.31 | stew | lenswipe: install mozilla-plugin-gnash |
| 16:46.43 | lenswipe | im using chrome |
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| 16:47.14 | k4eser | how do I change the default entry for the kernel in grub2? |
| 16:47.17 | lenswipe | aside from that didnt there used to be a flash-plugin-nonfree in the repos? |
| 16:47.36 | lenswipe | stew, and that mozilla-plugin-gnash doesnt work in iceweasel |
| 16:47.47 | stew | lenswipe: yes it does |
| 16:47.54 | breardo | disposable: sorry I missed that.. |
| 16:47.55 | lenswipe | no it doesnt |
| 16:47.58 | breardo | didnt mean to igore you :) |
| 16:48.00 | stew | lenswipe: which bug# are you talking about? |
| 16:48.05 | lenswipe | stew, ? |
| 16:48.07 | breardo | hmm.. replication is what I need |
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| 16:48.16 | scoobertron | I got flashplugin non-free yesterday - do you have non-free and contrib enabled |
| 16:48.29 | stew | lenswipe: is there a bug filed about mozilla-plugin-gnash not working in iceweasel? if not, please file one |
| 16:48.30 | lenswipe | stew, im talking about installing mozilla-plugin-gnash and still getting "you need to install adobe flash player" |
| 16:48.34 | stew | lenswipe: it works well here |
| 16:48.54 | stew | lenswipe: perhaps for flash 10 content, it only supports version 9 so far |
| 16:49.07 | lenswipe | so how do i install proper adobe flash? |
| 16:49.09 | lenswipe | E: Couldn't find package flashplugin |
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| 16:50.26 | lenswipe | stew, im on the adobe website, will the ubuntu .deb work on debian? |
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| 16:51.01 | lolzie | stew: sorry there, got interrupted: http://pastebin.com/4K612gQc |
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| 16:51.08 | Burns | Hello |
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| 16:51.55 | Burns | I found out today my machine wasn't running, anyway to find out what caused that, or how to check if the system was probably compromised ? |
| 16:52.09 | lolzie | stew: http://pastebin.com/161rLTtk (policy with no args) |
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| 16:52.24 | stew | lenswipe: you shouldn't install ubuntu .debs on debian. since debian provides an installer that would probably be better |
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| 16:52.43 | lenswipe | stew, continue? |
| 16:52.48 | stew | lenswipe: no, sorry |
| 16:52.54 | lenswipe | ? |
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| 16:53.22 | lenswipe | stew, heres the deal right now, i need to install flashplayer, its not in the repos and Gnash his useless the only available download is an ubuntu deb |
| 16:53.24 | lenswipe | will it work? |
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| 16:53.45 | themill | lenswipe: you could always consult your notes about how you did this last time. They might help you. |
| 16:53.50 | stew | lolzie: so this is an out of date testing. you should probably bring it back up to date using "aptitude safe-upgrade" then "aptitude full-upgrade" then try again with g++ |
| 16:54.03 | lenswipe | themill, i dont have notes about how i did this last time |
| 16:54.08 | themill | [Fri May 7 2010] [20:27:28] <jordanm> !tell lenswipe about flash |
| 16:54.10 | lenswipe | themill, i didnt imagine i would be re-installing so soon |
| 16:54.25 | lenswipe | themill, maybe you should discuss that with the person that pushed that xorg update |
| 16:54.28 | themill | or you could have your irc client keep logs. |
| 16:54.31 | lolzie | stew: I'll give it a go :) |
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| 16:54.49 | stew | lolzie: you can get rid of the etch line in sources.list, that is very old |
| 16:54.57 | lenswipe | themill, last time i went into synaptic and searched for flash and installed the nonfree flashplugin |
| 16:55.00 | lenswipe | themill, this time its not there |
| 16:55.03 | lolzie | stew: my aptitude doesn't even support those two arguments :/ |
| 16:55.06 | breardo | throw in an onion.. some carrots..and baby, you got yourself a stew goin! |
| 16:55.13 | lenswipe | i fail to see how keeping IRC logs can help with that |
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| 16:55.35 | lenswipe | oh i also forgot to mention that gksu is broken again in this install |
| 16:55.42 | lenswipe | and that xorg flickers randomly |
| 16:55.45 | lenswipe | and that flash doesnt work |
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| 16:56.06 | stew | lolzie: hold on a second then |
| 16:56.30 | stew | lolzie: yours is sufficiently outdated that you should probably upgrade to lenny (the current stable) first |
| 16:56.35 | stew | lolzie: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
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| 16:56.54 | stew | lolzie: and consider staying on lenny aka stable, or if you want to upgrade to testing from there |
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| 16:57.18 | lenswipe | if anyone knows what the flashplugin is called in the lenny repos? |
| 16:57.37 | frikinz | Burns: in theory, unless you have an external integrity checker, you can never know really if a system has been compromised... have a look in /var/log ? |
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| 16:57.54 | themill | lenswipe: please feel free to help yourself. |
| 16:58.06 | lenswipe | themill, i am helping myself, and its not getting me very far |
| 16:58.11 | lenswipe | themill, any other ideas? :p |
| 16:58.28 | themill | Try following the information you've been given. |
| 16:58.51 | lenswipe | themill, what information? |
| 16:58.58 | themill | [16:54] <themill> [Fri May 7 2010] [20:27:28] <jordanm> !tell lenswipe about flash |
| 16:59.03 | lenswipe | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.05 | lenswipe | !tell lenswipe about flash |
| 16:59.32 | lenswipe | themill, yep, read that - it tells me to install gnash, which i already have which is useless |
| 16:59.33 | Burns | frikinz, external integrity checker ? |
| 17:00.34 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: Oops, sorry, not enough coffee this morning... |
| 17:00.41 | jhutchins_lt | !tell lenswipe about adobe flash |
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| 17:02.58 | frikinz | Burns: something that keeps track of any change made to any file. Usually only suitable for stable system (not upgrading everyday). OSSEC, samhain, tripwire,... |
| 17:04.20 | stew | Burns: what he's saying is that although you can find something that proves a box was compromised, its hard to have the box itself tell you definitively that it isn't compromised, because once it is compromised, you can't trust anything it tells you |
| 17:04.53 | lolzie | stew: argh, I hate apt now. It used to be awesome 'til it started doing all this. I'm not even sure what I should have in my sources.list now, as per the bot I'm using what's in <etch sources.list>, but now it's giving me this after apt-get update: |
| 17:04.54 | lolzie | "W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs" |
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| 17:05.10 | lolzie | (And some kind of key on the next line) |
| 17:05.15 | themill | lenswipe: it doesn't tell you to install gnash at all. Feel free to read the end of any given sentence and sometimes even each of the sentences in any given paragraph. |
| 17:05.39 | stew | lolzie: "aptitude install debian-archive-keyring" and "aptitude update" should get rid of that warning |
| 17:05.39 | lenswipe | themill, i read the whole lot of it, it tells me to either install gnash, or flashplugin non-free |
| 17:05.40 | Burns | yeah exactly stew |
| 17:05.49 | lenswipe | themill, the first one is useless, the second one is non existant in the repos |
| 17:06.00 | stew | , versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 17:06.01 | judd | Package flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- etch-backports/contrib: 1:1.4~bpo40+1; lenny-backports/contrib: 1:2.8.2~bpo50+1; sid/contrib: 1:2.8.2; squeeze/contrib: 1:2.8.2 |
| 17:06.21 | themill | lenswipe: it doesn't tell you that at all. Have another go. |
| 17:06.30 | Burns | There is plenty of errors i found in auth.lo |
| 17:06.30 | lolzie | stew: what's this mean? "Score is -581" |
| 17:06.30 | stew | Burns: some things you might look at are the output of "last" and check all the crontabs, check bash_history |
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| 17:06.36 | Burns | saslauthd[3191]: pam_unix(smtp:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty= ruser= rhost= |
| 17:06.43 | Burns | Whats the meanin of this |
| 17:06.51 | lolzie | It looks like this could be a fix though... but I've no idea why this particular command would work |
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| 17:07.42 | stew | Burns: someone tried to authenticate to your smtp server and failed. failures shouldn't worry you, success should |
| 17:07.58 | Burns | shitload of them in my logs |
| 17:08.11 | lenswipe | themill, it does tell me that, it tells me about gnash and it tells me where to get the nonfree flashplugin, when i try to get the nonfree flashplugin it doesnt work |
| 17:08.55 | themill | lenswipe: it does not tell you that at all. It tells you: "ask about <adobe flash>". Surprisingly, that factoid contains information too. |
| 17:09.21 | stew | lolzie: when you ask aptitude to do somehting it comes up with multiple ways to do it, and has an internal scoring mechanism used to rank them, you can for the most part, ignore the score |
| 17:09.28 | lenswipe | themill, i asked about adobe flash and i was given instructions that dont work |
| 17:09.29 | lolzie | stew: okay, cool :) |
| 17:09.29 | Burns | I just check history, nothing wrong |
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| 17:09.39 | Burns | checked* |
| 17:10.20 | themill | dpkg: tell lenswipe about doesn't work |
| 17:10.21 | Burns | Oh and I rarely upgrade or do anything with my files, so which external integrity checker you suggest? |
| 17:10.26 | stew | lolzie: and give apt the benefit of the doubt, you're trying to give it a tough problem of updating a very old system all at once :) |
| 17:10.40 | lolzie | stew: ...dude. That one command fixed the issue and I can suddenly install g++ like I wanted to :) |
| 17:10.45 | lolzie | Thanks man! |
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| 17:11.10 | Bushmills | lenswipe: of program lie to you, concerning the problem they experience, maybe factoids lie to you to, and must therefore be ignored? |
| 17:11.12 | Bushmills | if ... |
| 17:11.19 | stew | lolzie: :). now, if you are on etch sources.list, we'd recommend upgrading to lenny, etch is outdated and no longer supported (for things like security patches) |
| 17:12.06 | lenswipe | themill, let me be more specific |
| 17:12.37 | lenswipe | themill, http://pastebin.com/G5TYYKy3 |
| 17:12.48 | themill | lenswipe: feel free to reread that factoid. |
| 17:12.56 | lenswipe | i did |
| 17:13.03 | lolzie | stew: cool, just to clarify, to upgrade I'll change my sources.list to use lenny packages - would I then do apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
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| 17:13.11 | lenswipe | themill, feel free to read my pastebin |
| 17:13.19 | themill | lenswipe: try again. I'm not spoon-feeding you any more. |
| 17:13.19 | frikinz | Burns: maybe "external" is overkill? Do you host wikileaks files or what? Either local (I liked ossec) or you boot into another (supposedly clean) OS to check the other |
| 17:13.30 | lenswipe | themill, what you mean is, you've run out of ideas |
| 17:14.01 | lenswipe | themill, ive enabled the sources in software sources and ive asked apt-get to install flashplugin-nonfree and it says no such package exists |
| 17:14.15 | stew | lolzie: no, its unfortunately not that simple. (that *could possibly* work, but there are more detailed procedures much more likely to work) |
| 17:14.21 | themill | lenswipe: Indeed. I did not train as an English teacher to help with comprehension. I normally teach people who can read and write English already. You might like to re-read very very carefully this bit: «there is also a flashplugin-nonfree <contrib> package available for squeeze and lenny-backports.» |
| 17:14.42 | lenswipe | themill, ive read it |
| 17:14.51 | themill | lenswipe: I'll make it even easier for you. READ THE LAST 3 WORDS. |
| 17:15.03 | lenswipe | themill, i have the contrib and backport repos enabled |
| 17:15.04 | stew | lolzie: "/msg dpkg etch->lenny" gives a better procedure |
| 17:15.10 | lenswipe | themill, any more ideas and/or rudeness? |
| 17:15.20 | lolzie | stew: thanks :) Btw, one last Q.. why is it "better" as such? |
| 17:15.24 | frikinz | Burns: and ossec can also add a rule to your firewall if someone is failing to authenticate too many times for a given time |
| 17:15.25 | themill | lenswipe: no. I just give up. Good luck. |
| 17:15.46 | stew | lolzie: sorry, why is which better? |
| 17:15.50 | lolzie | I actually thought my package management system was just doomed |
| 17:16.05 | lolzie | stew: the <etch->lenny> procedure that the dpkg bot details |
| 17:16.05 | lenswipe | themill, perhaps next time do the research before telling people that they are illiterate |
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| 17:16.34 | lolzie | stew: from what I'd heard before, I'd have thought a dist-upgrade would be satisfactory, I wasn't aware that there might have even needed to be anything else to do |
| 17:17.13 | themill | lenswipe: the problem is not with the factoid. |
| 17:17.17 | stew | lolzie: upgrading all the packages at once is hard problem for the package manager to solve (trying to figure out what new packages to install vs. which need to be removed). 1) aptitude is better at this 2) doing a "upgrade" before "dist-upgrade" simplifies the problem |
| 17:17.26 | lenswipe | themill, no, its with the debian repos |
| 17:17.30 | lenswipe | themill, http://pastebin.com/GYg478xL |
| 17:17.42 | lenswipe | thats my sources.list with contrib and non free enabled |
| 17:17.50 | themill | lenswipe: contrib is enabled is it? |
| 17:18.06 | lenswipe | deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 17:18.16 | themill | lenswipe: as usual, keep reading. |
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| 17:18.51 | stew | lenswipe: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=flashplugin-nonfree its not supposed to be in contrib in lenny |
| 17:19.48 | stew | "<contrib> package available for squeeze and lenny-backports" |
| 17:20.00 | lenswipe | stew, im on lenny backport |
| 17:20.06 | lenswipe | 2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64 |
| 17:20.21 | themill | lenswipe: keep reading that sources.list of yours. Is contrib enabled? |
| 17:21.06 | lenswipe | themill, correct me if im wrong but a # infront of it means its disabled yes? |
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| 17:21.15 | lenswipe | ...and the only lines with #s infront of them are the CD ones |
| 17:21.21 | themill | lenswipe: keep reading. |
| 17:21.30 | lenswipe | i am reading |
| 17:21.30 | stew | lenswipe: yes, those two things are correct |
| 17:21.32 | themill | lenswipe: yes, you are correct about # being a comment character |
| 17:22.52 | lenswipe | yep the contrib lines arent commented out |
| 17:23.20 | Burns | Thanks frikinz and StealthAsimov |
| 17:23.22 | Burns | stew* |
| 17:23.45 | themill | lenswipe: you should perhaps realise that stew and I are asking rhetorical questions here. We know the answer. We want you to work it out for yourself. |
| 17:25.47 | jelly-home | themill: but... that doesn't make any sense! You know the answer and are not telling?!?! |
| 17:26.13 | stew | actually we've told him the answer like 4 times, and he claims to have read it many times in msg as well |
| 17:26.34 | jelly-home | must be a layer 8 issue |
| 17:26.47 | stew | its a PICNIC! |
| 17:27.19 | wintix | :) |
| 17:27.25 | jelly-home | !picnic |
| 17:27.26 | dpkg | hmm... picnic is Problem In Chair Not In Computer |
| 17:27.46 | lenswipe | themill, deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 17:28.15 | themill | that looks better |
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| 17:32.52 | cusco | hi |
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| 17:48.11 | thewanderer1 | folks, do we have any tools for cleaning up pasted text in a text file? like I copy a chat log and want to remove trailing spaces, some invisible binary rubbish etc |
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| 17:48.28 | jhutchins | thewanderer1: vi |
| 17:48.32 | thewanderer1 | aww... |
| 17:48.45 | thewanderer1 | I don't know if it'd be happy working with binary crap |
| 17:48.58 | jhutchins | Works fine with binary, has a binary mode. |
| 17:48.59 | thewanderer1 | I'm not even sure I'd know what to tell it to replace... |
| 17:49.11 | thewanderer1 | " " ? |
| 17:49.20 | jhutchins | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:50.06 | jst | For a new install, is there any difference between debian-507-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 17:50.17 | jst | Whoops... and the update CD? The FAQ isn't very clear. |
| 17:50.44 | jhutchins | jst: You wnt the CD1 or netinstall. |
| 17:51.04 | stew | jst: the update cd is meant as a supliment to someone who has an older full set of cds, it doesn't actually have an installer |
| 17:51.51 | jst | Okay, thank you guys. |
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| 17:53.42 | Shadow` | hmm |
| 17:53.49 | Shadow` | apt-get/aptitude is giving a segmentation fault |
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| 17:55.01 | phorce1 | frikinz: (yes, this is a reply to something said 9+ hours ago regarding non-stop "rejecting I/O to dead device" messages in syslog after removing USB attached devices) The problem with removing/installing driver modules is figuring out which ones to pull (because the error is coming from the scsi layer but has nothing to do with a "real" scsi device) and not killing the whole system by pulling the wrong one. |
| 17:55.29 | Mitsui_Sam | hi all! does anybody knows where can I found the package xen-ioemu-3.0.3-1, all tutorials at internet (about install windows under xen with debian) ask to install it using apt-get install xen-ioemu-3.0.3-1 but I can't find it |
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| 17:55.35 | jhutchins | Shadow`: That's not good. |
| 17:55.43 | jhutchins | Shadow`: fsck time. |
| 17:56.10 | Shadow` | it sure isnt, fsck time? |
| 17:56.35 | Shadow` | WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause |
| 17:56.35 | Shadow` | SEVERE filesystem damage. |
| 17:56.35 | Shadow` | ? |
| 17:56.42 | jhutchins | Shadow`: shutdown -Fr now |
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| 17:56.54 | jhutchins | Reboots & checks |
| 17:57.05 | peterrooney | ,versions xen-ioemu |
| 17:57.06 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'xen-ioemu' was found in i386. |
| 17:57.17 | peterrooney | ,versions xen-ioemu-3.0.3-1 |
| 17:57.18 | judd | Package xen-ioemu-3.0.3-1 on i386 -- etch: 3.0.3-0-4; etch-security: 3.0.3-0-4 |
| 17:57.59 | peterrooney | Mitsui_Sam: looks like it's had a name change going in to lenny, at least. |
| 17:58.29 | Mitsui_Sam | peterrooney, hummm thanks a lot, is possible it had been removed from lenny? |
| 17:58.31 | stew | judd: source xen-ioemu-3.0.3-1 --release etch |
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| 17:59.40 | peterrooney | Mitsui_Sam: possibly renamed. my tab completion showed xen-ioemu-3.0-unstable |
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| 18:00.40 | Mitsui_Sam | peterrooney, but when I ran apt-search xen-ioemu he returns nothing |
| 18:01.12 | peterrooney | sorry, forgot ^W is "close" in xchat |
| 18:01.36 | peterrooney | there's xen-ioemu-3.0-unstable |
| 18:01.44 | peterrooney | ,versions xen-ioemu-3.0-unstable |
| 18:01.45 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'xen-ioemu-3.0-unstable' was found in i386. |
| 18:01.51 | peterrooney | weird |
| 18:01.52 | stew | peterrooney: not in debian |
| 18:02.39 | peterrooney | stew: it's in my aptitude tab completions, though... and i'm pretty sure i didn't write that. |
| 18:02.58 | stew | peterrooney: where does "apt-cache policy xen-ioemu-3.0-unstable" say it is from |
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| 18:03.41 | jhutchins | predicts an installation mess |
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| 18:05.09 | Mitsui_Sam | peterrooney, thanks man, you gimme a lot of help! |
| 18:05.14 | Mitsui_Sam | see ya! |
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| 18:08.09 | Shadow` | well, that didnt help, apt still broken :( |
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| 18:09.31 | alex_1 | Hi all , what do I need to install to get locale-gen in lenny? thanks. |
| 18:09.53 | stew | alex_1: locales |
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| 18:11.17 | alex_1 | stew,thanks |
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| 18:12.05 | Codenomics | hello |
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| 18:13.36 | Codenomics1 | random network reset |
| 18:14.06 | Codenomics1 | OK, so had this Deb CD floating around and needed an OS installed fast so I used it |
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| 18:15.23 | Codenomics | how can I tell what version of Debian I am using? |
| 18:15.39 | stew | Codenomics: try "lsb_release -a" |
| 18:15.43 | Codenomics | nevermind |
| 18:15.48 | Codenomics | stew: thanks |
| 18:15.53 | Codenomics | figured it out |
| 18:16.06 | Codenomics | didnt know that one though I just checked in system monitor |
| 18:16.25 | alex_1 | Codenomics, cat /proc/version |
| 18:16.43 | Codenomics | alex_1: got it thanks though |
| 18:16.47 | Shadow` | google not helping either |
| 18:16.53 | Shadow` | awesome, a debian with no apt :D |
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| 18:17.34 | Codenomics | so is debian a rolling update system? |
| 18:18.25 | dkr | Codenomics: depends on what that phrase means to you. :) |
| 18:18.46 | cusco | hi |
| 18:18.54 | stew | Codenomics: "testing" and "unstable" are (depending on your definition of rolling). "stable" is not for most people's definition of rolling, but you can always upgrade from one stable release to the next |
| 18:18.59 | cusco | seems taht usb-modeswitch ins'nt available on stable |
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| 18:19.16 | cusco | I have this 3g usb dongle ZTE MF636 |
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| 18:19.41 | cusco | /dev/ttyUSB* is created on testing (seems trough usb-modeswitch) but how to install iot in stable? |
| 18:19.54 | Codenomics | when a new version is released do you need to reinstall the OS? or can you just update via what ever package manager deb uses? |
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| 18:20.14 | stew | Codenomics: a reinstall should never be required |
| 18:20.38 | stew | Codenomics: debian never releases a new version until we have a working upgrade procedure from the previous release |
| 18:20.54 | Codenomics | qthat make sense? |
| 18:21.14 | Codenomics | darn pideon |
| 18:21.14 | dkr | is there really an os that requires reinstalls for upgrades? crazy |
| 18:21.24 | Codenomics | dkr: a couple of them |
| 18:21.33 | cusco | isn't usb-modeswitch available on stable? |
| 18:21.58 | Codenomics | PCLinuxOS has a hybrid kinda thing... there are rolling updates but every other release you have to reinstall |
| 18:22.10 | Codenomics | well, you dont "have" to |
| 18:22.20 | Codenomics | but you cant get the full updates |
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| 18:26.13 | jelly-home | dkr: for many OSes that's a more reasonable option than upgrading. Consumer Windows' releases are an example; the cruft can be very hard to clean up. |
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| 18:27.08 | wildc4rd | evenin all! |
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| 18:28.55 | fantasticulous | hi guys. i can't start up gnome-volume-control or gnome-volume-control-applet. not sure what their issue is. i uninstalled pulseaudio and they still don't work, i killed the jack server and still nothing. i'm also seeing continuous hdd activity for some reason when gnome-volume-control-applet is running. i need to mention that i have shortcut keys for volume up and volume down and those work perfectly |
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| 18:29.20 | fantasticulous | i even edited with gconf-editor in the system settings but no luck |
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| 18:30.05 | Codenomics | jelly-home: this distro is based around recovering Windows users too |
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| 18:33.58 | Codenomics | crap I just realized my second vid card aint working |
| 18:34.01 | Codenomics | grr |
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| 18:41.01 | cusco | help! |
| 18:41.17 | Codenomics | ok so reading /proc/version it gives me Debian 4.1.2-25 but ls_release -a gives me 5.0.7 |
| 18:41.29 | Codenomics | does the installer update while installing? |
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| 18:43.06 | Arrowmaster | Codenomics: i think thats the gcc version you are listing |
| 18:43.29 | stew | Codenomics: 4.1.2-25 is the version of the compiler used to compile that kernel (/proc/version is the kernel version, not the debian version) |
| 18:43.35 | Codenomics | gcc is 4.1.3 |
| 18:43.40 | Codenomics | ok |
| 18:43.58 | Arrowmaster | yeah mine says (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) on squeeze |
| 18:44.11 | cusco | !usb-modeswitch |
| 18:44.11 | dpkg | usb_modeswitch is a tool for controlling "flip flop" USB devices, e.g. WAN dongles. This utility can disable the storage device (aka "ZeroCD", containing non-Linux drivers) and enable the serial device. Packaged for Debian as usb-modeswitch in Squeeze. See also Debian bug #523999 regarding ZTE devices. http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/ |
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| 18:44.18 | cusco | isn't it available in Lenny ?!?! |
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| 18:44.31 | Arrowmaster | ,versions usb-modeswitch |
| 18:44.32 | judd | Package usb-modeswitch on i386 -- sid: 1.1.4-2; squeeze: 1.1.4-2; experimental: 1.1.5-1 |
| 18:44.44 | Arrowmaster | dpkg: tell cusco about ssb |
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| 18:45.16 | Arrowmaster | cusco: read the message you just got from cusco very carefully and try that |
| 18:45.34 | simonrvn | might wanna check backports too |
| 18:45.34 | Arrowmaster | from dpkg |
| 18:45.34 | simonrvn | heh |
| 18:45.40 | Arrowmaster | its not in backports or judd would have listed it too |
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| 18:45.55 | simonrvn | oh, right |
| 18:45.55 | cusco | Arrowmaster: I tried |
| 18:46.01 | cusco | but it wants to upgrade a WHOLE BUNCH of stuff from testing |
| 18:46.05 | cusco | usb-modeswitch requeres new udev, new udev requires new kernel.. so on and so forth |
| 18:46.46 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 18:47.05 | simonrvn | forgot judd lists bpdo |
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| 18:47.56 | lenswipe | anyone got any ideas for what i should use to burn ISO images with debian? |
| 18:48.10 | abrotman | CLI? GUI? |
| 18:48.28 | Codenomics | hmm looks like I need to update my vid drivers |
| 18:48.39 | stew | lenswipe: wodim |
| 18:48.47 | lenswipe | stew, thanks |
| 18:48.54 | lenswipe | stew, is that CLI or GUI? |
| 18:48.57 | stew | lenswipe: "wodim foo.iso" should work in most cases |
| 18:49.01 | stew | lenswipe: its CLI |
| 18:49.06 | lenswipe | ok |
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| 18:51.20 | rzl | does anyone use rhythmbox to listen to daap-shared music ? |
| 18:51.20 | juniorsa | Hi, I just upgraded my motherboard, to an ASUS M4N68T-M and when I boot up, on my normal CRT (old screen) after a certain point in the booting the screen goes bezerk, unreadable, I hooked it up to a fancy LCD and it works, anyone seen this behavior? I'm talking about lenny |
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| 18:52.06 | juniorsa | So the question is why does the booting process in lenny change resolutions or video modes? how do I get this motherboard video to behave with an old CRT |
| 18:52.35 | rzl | juniorsa: did you set the vga= kernel option ? |
| 18:52.49 | juniorsa | rzl how do I do that? sorry |
| 18:53.14 | abrotman | juniorsa: Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 18:53.20 | rzl | juniorsa: try booting your kernel with no vga= kernel option |
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| 18:53.54 | juniorsa | abrotman: yes I have that file |
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| 18:54.31 | juniorsa | do I need to do a reconfigure to tell the kernel about the video card and screen? |
| 18:55.24 | stew | juniorsa: it would change when /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh runs and when/if X starts |
| 18:55.50 | juniorsa | stew: normally x doesn't start on this system |
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| 18:56.40 | Rienzilla | hmmm |
| 18:56.41 | juniorsa | stew: do I need to do something to have this file act properly with my new hardware, it has an nvidia graphics chipset |
| 18:56.55 | stew | juniorsa: sounds like it |
| 18:56.55 | Rienzilla | any news on http://www.exim.org/lurker/message/20101207.215955.bb32d4f2.en.html ? |
| 18:57.53 | stew | Rienzilla: does it have a CVE id? |
| 18:57.59 | Rienzilla | CVE? |
| 18:58.14 | stew | !cve |
| 18:58.14 | dpkg | from memory, cve is Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures, a database of publicly known information security vulnerabilities. http://cve.mitre.org/ Most Debian Security Announcements have a CVE identifier, ask me about <dsa>. Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get debian-specific information. |
| 18:58.25 | juniorsa | stew: do you know how I can update this file? |
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| 18:58.39 | Rienzilla | I don't know |
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| 18:59.04 | stew | juniorsa: its config file is /etc/console-tools/config ; I don't know much more than that |
| 18:59.15 | rzl | i am trying to listen to daap-shared music with rhythmbox, but i can get it working only if i disable the authentication... is there a way to enable password authentication in rhythmbox ?? |
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| 19:05.32 | lenswipe2 | hey guys |
| 19:05.42 | lenswipe2 | xorg wont start anymore |
| 19:05.48 | lenswipe2 | i get the x server failed to start message |
| 19:05.59 | lenswipe2 | can someone help? |
| 19:06.22 | lenswipe2 | the server output says fatal error - no screens found |
| 19:06.29 | lenswipe2 | can someone help out |
| 19:07.41 | Rienzilla | stew: what if it does not have a cve id? (this is 1 day old) |
| 19:07.47 | pipeline | lenswipe2: look at the log file in /var/log -- it will be Xorg.displaynumber.log, so probably Xorg.0.log |
| 19:08.02 | lenswipe2 | pipeline, i already have a log here |
| 19:08.12 | lenswipe2 | pipeline, it says fatal error: no screens found |
| 19:08.25 | stew | Rienzilla: then likely debian will not have done anything about it, which is what I assumed you were asking about |
| 19:08.29 | pipeline | lenswipe2: the log file is the detailed log where you will find more useful error messages |
| 19:08.34 | lenswipe2 | right |
| 19:08.35 | stew | Rienzilla: is there a bug about this filed in the debian bts? |
| 19:08.45 | pipeline | lenswipe2: "no screens found" is just the final error that killed the server. There will be other messages about why you don't have any screens further up in the log. |
| 19:08.51 | lenswipe2 | right |
| 19:08.55 | stew | !no screens found |
| 19:08.56 | dpkg | somebody said no screens found was not a useful message - it means X11 has a problem somewhere with something. Read your /var/log/Xorg.0.log more closely, and look for the real error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about <troubleshooting x>. |
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| 19:09.05 | lenswipe2 | pipeline, the thing is, it just started doing this just when i booted the machine |
| 19:09.08 | jelly-home | stew: #d-security says thay know about it |
| 19:09.17 | lenswipe2 | it was fine, i rebooted and it starts doing this shit |
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| 19:09.28 | pipeline | lenswipe2: that's great and all, but it doesn't tell us anything. You're going to have to read the log. |
| 19:09.32 | lenswipe2 | yeah i know |
| 19:09.37 | lenswipe2 | im gonna paste it |
| 19:09.41 | pipeline | not a good idea |
| 19:09.47 | lenswipe2 | why? |
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| 19:10.28 | simonrvn | read it |
| 19:10.43 | neoice | if I have 4 devices that were in an mdraid RAID5, is there a way I can reliably reassemble them on a different machine? |
| 19:10.51 | Rienzilla | stew: i'm not sure either. I just came accross it and wanted to share it with you, since a lot of the people in here will probably have a debian with exim running. |
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| 19:12.09 | stew | Rienzilla: http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/exim4 is a page you might want to watch. jelly says our security team is aware of it |
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| 19:12.55 | Rienzilla | ok. thanks. |
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| 19:14.20 | juniorsa | abrotman: any ideas how to configure lenny to detect and boot with my new graphics card and CRT monitor? |
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| 19:17.17 | lenswipe2 | okay i have in my xorg.0.log (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specific error, 0) |
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| 19:18.14 | lenswipe2 | anyone? |
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| 19:18.55 | lenswipe2 | pipeline, (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specific error, 0) |
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| 19:19.19 | pipeline | lenswipe2: you found your problem |
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| 19:19.33 | pipeline | lenswipe2: you have X11 configured to use the nvidia driver, but the driver is absent or broken |
| 19:19.43 | pipeline | lolzie: I suggest you delete /etc/x11/xorg.conf and try again |
| 19:19.47 | pipeline | whoops wrong person |
| 19:19.54 | stew | lolz |
| 19:19.54 | lenswipe | pipeline, i installed the driver yesterday and it was working |
| 19:20.15 | lenswipe | should i try re-installing? |
| 19:20.22 | lenswipe | why has it uninstalled itself or magically broken? |
| 19:20.27 | lenswipe | and why does debian keep breaking? |
| 19:20.45 | pipeline | lenswipe: because the nvidia installer is very badly behaved |
| 19:20.54 | pipeline | lenswipe: and if you used their installer, it probably overwrote files that should not have been overwritten |
| 19:20.58 | lenswipe | pipeline, or because debian breaks every 10 seconds |
| 19:21.01 | stew | lenswipe: perhaps debian isn't for you. the things that you are having trouble with are non-free bits that debian has intentionally excluded |
| 19:21.06 | pipeline | lenswipe: so when you upgraded the system or installed another package, it broke the driver that was installed incorrectly |
| 19:21.17 | pipeline | lenswipe: you overwrote operating system files and shockingly things do not work as intended :) |
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| 19:21.28 | lenswipe | pipeline, so what do i do? |
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| 19:21.56 | pipeline | lenswipe: I wasn't kidding --- if you delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf, X will generate a configuration dynamically when it starts, and things should work fine. |
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| 19:22.13 | pipeline | lenswipe: you don't need an xorg.conf unless you want a special, weird configuration (e.g. setting up the proprietary driver) |
| 19:22.22 | lenswipe | okay |
| 19:22.29 | juniorsa | does anyone know a command to reset the video mode, I can probably do that blind - to a simple vga 80x25 |
| 19:22.54 | lenswipe | pipeline, rebooting |
| 19:23.09 | pipeline | lenswipe: you didn't need to reboot, you could hvae just restarted xdm/gdm :) |
| 19:23.17 | lenswipe | kay |
| 19:23.19 | pipeline | lenswipe: sudo /etc/init.d/xdm restart |
| 19:23.26 | lenswipe | well i didnt delete it, i just moved it to my desktop |
| 19:23.50 | pipeline | it's easy to generate a new xorg.conf any time you need one, so don't worry about losing a machine-generated xorg.conf |
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| 19:24.06 | bolt | Can I use iptables to route all traffic from a lan interface through a dynamic forwarded ssh port, thus acting as a gateway sending packets out through the network at the end of the ssh tunnel? |
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| 19:24.14 | lenswipe | pipeline, right, now i have a weird resolution set |
| 19:24.27 | pipeline | bolt: the easiest way to do what you describe is to use pppd through an ssh tunnel |
| 19:24.33 | lxsameer | how can i install a udeb from DI shell ? |
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| 19:24.57 | pipeline | lenswipe: but it is working... so it is indeed a problem with the nvidia driver, not a problem with debian |
| 19:24.58 | bolt | pipeline: will that require special setup at the other end? i only have root here, not there |
| 19:25.04 | lenswipe | pipeline, hmm |
| 19:25.21 | lenswipe | pipeline, this is ridiculous |
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| 19:25.37 | pipeline | bolt: you will need pppd installed on both ends, but you only need root to set up the tap... if pppd is suid it's all good |
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| 19:25.55 | pipeline | lenswipe: it's not ridiculous at all... when you go download a tarball of random crap off the internet and overwrite critical system files, Bad Stuff Happens. What did you expect ? |
| 19:26.14 | lenswipe | pipeline, its utterly ridiculous, ive been trying to get debian to work properly since this time yesterday |
| 19:26.22 | lenswipe | 24 hours for an OS install is a joke |
| 19:26.25 | lenswipe | seriously |
| 19:26.31 | breardo | thats your inexperience showing |
| 19:26.45 | pipeline | lenswipe: go complain to someone else. I no longer give a shit about your problems. |
| 19:26.54 | lenswipe | breardo, or perhaps the fact that linux doesnt support hardware made in the 21st century |
| 19:27.10 | lenswipe | pipeline, i love you too |
| 19:27.11 | breardo | i have had a different experience, personally |
| 19:27.16 | breardo | sorry that you are having a bad experience |
| 19:27.24 | bolt | lenswipe: if you don't know what you're doing, 24 hours would be quite astonishing to get an os working properly |
| 19:27.36 | lenswipe | ive been using linux since about 2007 |
| 19:27.38 | lenswipe | and ive never had this shit |
| 19:27.49 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: Frankly this is not typical, you are in fact responsible for a number of delays. |
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| 19:28.08 | lenswipe | i built a new PC recently quad core processor, 4GB RAM etc and i thought it would be good to have it running open source software |
| 19:28.15 | lenswipe | i still think that |
| 19:28.19 | lenswipe | linux just doesnt agree |
| 19:28.29 | pipeline | breardo: this is the tutorial I used years ago to set it up... it's mostly really obvious, but the important part is at the bottom, the script to set up the tunnel for you. It should be basically self-explanatory from there. http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/ppp-ssh.html |
| 19:28.30 | breardo | perhaps a different distribution would be more to your liking |
| 19:28.35 | thewanderer1 | look, you need to cooperate with software |
| 19:28.41 | breardo | Debian, while excellent, isnt (IMHO) the best desktop OS |
| 19:28.46 | stew | lenswipe: so far the problems you've been having that I've seen are with closed source adobe flash and the closed source nvidia driver |
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| 19:28.59 | lenswipe | stew, and opensource debian |
| 19:29.00 | stew | lenswipe: if you want to ditch the closed source nvidia driver and use the oepn source one, things would probably go better |
| 19:29.06 | pipeline | lenswipe, thewanderer1 , breardo : #debian-offtopic is an entire channel for these kinds of things, folks. This is really a technical support type of gig here. |
| 19:29.12 | breardo | agreed |
| 19:29.16 | lenswipe | stew, i had to backport it so it would actually recognise my SATA controller |
| 19:29.17 | breardo | i just piped up for the hell of it |
| 19:29.23 | stew | lenswipe: backport what? |
| 19:29.30 | lenswipe | stew, the kernel on the installer CD |
| 19:29.31 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: But you want non-opensource things like flash and nvidia drivers. It's not Debian's fault. |
| 19:29.36 | khaije|amalt | i'm looking to borrow a good convention, where do people like to store their website vhost folders? I was thinking /var/www-vhost any alternate suggestions? |
| 19:29.48 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt, not supporting my SATA controller is debians fault |
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| 19:29.59 | lenswipe | breardo, you said debian wasnt the best desktop OS - what is? im interested |
| 19:29.59 | breardo | no its not |
| 19:30.00 | thewanderer1 | khaije|amalt: /srv/vhosting/domain.com/html is my choice |
| 19:30.01 | jhutchins_lt | No, it's the controller manufacturers fault. |
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| 19:30.08 | stew | lenswipe: yeah, well since the current release of debian was frozen 2 years ago, we can't reslly have support for newer stuff |
| 19:30.13 | pipeline | khaije|amalt: I like to have each set of configuration in /etc/httpd/vhosts/, and then create /var/www/virtual.host1.net, /var/www/virtual.host2.net and so on |
| 19:30.17 | breardo | I think its a toss up between Ubuntu and Fedora |
| 19:30.22 | lenswipe | hmm |
| 19:30.22 | breardo | personally |
| 19:30.28 | lenswipe | im tempted to go with ubuntu |
| 19:30.31 | breardo | then try it |
| 19:30.39 | jhutchins_lt | No skin off our backs. |
| 19:30.40 | lenswipe | i might if this doesnt start working soon |
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| 19:31.02 | bolt | lenswipe: i think that'll scare it into doing so |
| 19:31.15 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: Perhaps if you use ubuntu for a while and figure out how OSS works, debian will make more sense to you. |
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| 19:31.20 | breardo | and sata support in the kernel isnt debians fault... its the kernel |
| 19:31.27 | breardo | debian is the stuff on top of the kernel |
| 19:31.44 | breardo | yeah debian isnt suited as a beginner linux.. IMHO again |
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| 19:32.06 | jhutchins_lt | I had one disk controller a couple years ago that wouldn't work with any release I could find except SuSE. |
| 19:32.16 | bolt | eww |
| 19:32.19 | stew | a 2 year old release of debian isn't going to be the easiest thing to get working for brand new hardware |
| 19:32.24 | breardo | correct |
| 19:32.29 | breardo | something sometimg.. stew going.. |
| 19:32.29 | jhutchins_lt | Novell having access to proprietary software like RedHat does. |
| 19:32.32 | bolt | try squeeze, perhaps? |
| 19:32.38 | stew | bolt: he shouldn't |
| 19:32.41 | breardo | im loving squeeze-beta2 right now |
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| 19:32.48 | lenswipe | one thing influencing me against ubuntu is that the GNOME implementation on it seems to have become FOSS mac |
| 19:32.59 | lenswipe | idk if thats changable or not |
| 19:33.00 | pipeline | why are you still discussing this in here |
| 19:33.03 | pipeline | #debian-offtopic is thataway |
| 19:33.04 | jhutchins_lt | Yeah, but someone who's having trouble getting stable to work is not going to be happy when squeeze breaks on update. |
| 19:33.04 | lenswipe | pipeline, no idea |
| 19:33.06 | breardo | pipeline.. agreed |
| 19:33.13 | lenswipe | but i really hate the menu buttons on the left side of the window |
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| 19:33.14 | lenswipe | anyway |
| 19:34.21 | lxsameer | hi how can i install a udeb in my running DI environment? |
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| 19:35.36 | jhutchins_lt | lxsameer: What is a udeb and what is a DI environment? |
| 19:35.45 | stew | jhutchins_lt: /msg dpkg udeb ; /msg dpkg d-i |
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| 19:36.03 | lxsameer | udeb is a DI ( debian installer ) component |
| 19:36.46 | jhutchins_lt | lxsameer: Thanks. |
| 19:36.57 | lxsameer | jhutchins_lt: np |
| 19:37.06 | jhutchins_lt | Kinda figured DI was installer. |
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| 19:40.08 | poisonbit | In a 64bit machine, with only 1G of ram (an Atom N450)... maybe it's better to use i386 ? |
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| 19:40.39 | poisonbit | I've never benchmarked it, but people use to say that the same program+data, takes more ram with 64 |
| 19:40.53 | poisonbit | and there is only 1G for this machine |
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| 19:42.04 | Bushmills | true. pointers, for example, use twice as much RAM. in general, 64 bit software tends to be 30..60% larger than 32bit software |
| 19:42.47 | xingu | lobs a z80 at Bushmills |
| 19:43.52 | poisonbit | so here we go to test that beta2 installer |
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| 19:44.20 | Bushmills | xingu: look at code size of, say, pcode programs |
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| 19:45.12 | xingu | follows it up by lobbing a z800 at Bushmills |
| 19:46.50 | Bushmills | asks xingu to hold his Mark II for a moment |
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| 19:47.18 | Bushmills | until the crane comes to lift it off xingu :) |
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| 19:49.22 | khaije|amalt | i'd thought /srv was for servers, not served content... am i mistaken? |
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| 19:50.18 | stew | khaije|amalt: see "man hier" |
| 19:51.24 | KB1JWQ | stew: Thanks for that. :-) |
| 19:51.29 | jhutchins_lt | poisonbit: I've got an n450 on an Acer One and 32b squeeze is working great (kmuto didn't have the net drivers). |
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| 19:52.56 | nertil | can i get link to get debian server please |
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| 19:54.21 | khaije|amalt | cheers stew |
| 19:54.27 | nertil | wtf no support in here? |
| 19:54.59 | nertil | need link to get latest debian server dudes |
| 19:55.02 | jhutchins_lt | nertil: Lots - 954 fellow users. Your question is not clear. |
| 19:55.30 | breardo | ftp.us.debian.org |
| 19:55.32 | breardo | works for me |
| 19:55.33 | breardo | :) |
| 19:55.36 | nertil | thx |
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| 19:56.03 | nertil | need link to download latest debian server |
| 19:56.21 | breardo | uhh.. www.debian.org has that information |
| 19:56.26 | breardo | ftp.us.debian.org has that software |
| 19:56.31 | breardo | what else do you need precicely? |
| 19:56.39 | themill | dpkg: tell nertil about install debian |
| 19:57.02 | jhutchins_lt | Well, it's something you build, not something you download. Perhaps you should start here: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual |
| 19:57.40 | themill | See also http://tinyurl.com/m49zs6 |
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| 19:59.19 | elik | I never remember how to join a group without logging off/logging in |
| 19:59.29 | xingu | stew: nice one (for the heir(7) link)... every day something to learn. |
| 19:59.38 | breardo | hier |
| 19:59.41 | breardo | doh |
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| 19:59.49 | xingu | that too |
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| 20:02.49 | breardo | in the debian installer, i do not seem to be permitted to delete any LVM or partition info when I select manual disk setup.. |
| 20:02.51 | breardo | running beta2 |
| 20:03.20 | breardo | i should just be able to select and delete each, and then re-setup the disk, right? |
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| 20:04.53 | jhutchins_lt | Yep, |
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| 20:05.10 | jhutchins_lt | Should be your basic gparted type inteface. |
| 20:05.14 | jhutchins_lt | Worked for me. |
| 20:05.31 | breardo | yeah.. no dice here |
| 20:05.34 | breardo | hmm.. |
| 20:05.37 | breardo | oh well :/ |
| 20:05.55 | breardo | i select manual setup and it gives me the LVM data and I cant delete it to setup the disk the way I want.. |
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| 20:06.36 | breardo | I dont like setting the system up with everything under / but its better than having 480GB dedicated to /home when I need the space elsewhere |
| 20:06.47 | breardo | a 300MB / is scary to me |
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| 20:08.05 | jhutchins_lt | single partition + sensible backups |
| 20:08.34 | breardo | its not the partition.. its the mount points |
| 20:08.42 | breardo | agreed about the backups |
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| 20:20.33 | jhutchins | breardo: I don't recall the exact steps to delete partitions, I do remember it took a little poking to figure it out though. |
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| 20:22.27 | poisonbit | ctrl + alt + f2 |
| 20:22.29 | poisonbit | dd if=/dev(zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 |
| 20:22.31 | poisonbit | reboot |
| 20:22.45 | poisonbit | or maybe they can be read again without reboot |
| 20:23.34 | poisonbit | if the d-i has the blockdev utility, it's used for this purpose (re-read) |
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| 20:24.16 | tuxGentoo | AYUDEMOS A WIKILEAKS en #wikileaks-es |
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| 20:24.51 | breardo | whats that mean? |
| 20:24.53 | breardo | i dont speak spanish |
| 20:25.03 | stew | breardo: it was spam, please ignore it |
| 20:25.13 | breardo | only if you come over and get a stew going |
| 20:25.37 | stew | go to craft services and get a cup of noodles |
| 20:25.59 | breardo | but... onion... broth.. carrots? |
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| 20:28.52 | _ZeuZ_ | Hey all, I'm having a dilema here. I'm using fake raid to setup 5 disks (all of them with the new boundaries of 8kb), and Lenny installer did recognize the fake raid(when passed dmraid=true), but it's also formating it to ext3 and I'm afraid it won't align it well, resulting in read-write performance loss, what can I do to fix it? |
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| 20:35.51 | cusco | hi |
| 20:36.14 | poisonbit | mount |
| 20:36.16 | cusco | my user is a member of group 'dialout' |
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| 20:36.46 | cusco | but seems that my user does not have permissions to access /dev/ttyUSB* |
| 20:36.54 | cusco | why? |
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| 20:38.18 | poisonbit | cusco are /dev/ttyUSB* owned by root but group: dialout ? then maybe you need to re-login or open a new session |
| 20:38.34 | cusco | I tried re-logging in |
| 20:38.57 | cusco | :| |
| 20:40.52 | _ZeuZ_ | cusco, from inside the irc client do: /exec -o ls -lta /dev | grep ttyUSB |
| 20:40.57 | _ZeuZ_ | that might give us an idea |
| 20:41.01 | cusco | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.14 | cusco | its owned by group dialout as poisonbit stated |
| 20:41.16 | _ZeuZ_ | (that, if you're using the IRC client in Linux ) |
| 20:41.29 | abrotman | in that installatoin |
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| 20:42.22 | cusco | crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 188, 2 Dec 9 20:42 /dev/ttyUSB2 |
| 20:42.45 | _ZeuZ_ | thanks for completing it abrotman ^_^ |
| 20:42.55 | _ZeuZ_ | brb |
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| 20:43.26 | cusco | _ZeuZ_: don't you have an idea now? |
| 20:43.59 | lenswipe | ok guys so i cant get my nvidia graphics driver to work |
| 20:44.02 | lenswipe | can someone help? |
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| 20:44.33 | lenswipe | its installed but i still get a really retarded resolution |
| 20:45.11 | stew | lenswipe: you intend to use the proprietary one or the open source one? |
| 20:45.22 | lenswipe | whichever one works |
| 20:45.27 | lenswipe | i dont know where to get the open source one |
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| 20:45.38 | stew | lenswipe: you already have it |
| 20:45.50 | stew | lenswipe: is the xserver-xorg-video-nv package installed? |
| 20:46.15 | lenswipe | stew, aparently |
| 20:46.27 | stew | lenswipe: have you tried starting X without a xorg.conf? |
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| 20:46.46 | stew | actually its probably already using the non-free driver, which I don't really want to touch |
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| 20:47.02 | lenswipe | hmm |
| 20:47.03 | cusco | isn't it noveau |
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| 20:47.10 | cusco | or nouveau |
| 20:47.11 | lenswipe | would reinstalling the driver do any harm? |
| 20:47.20 | stew | lenswipe: the non-free one? |
| 20:47.23 | cusco | should install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 20:47.23 | lenswipe | yh |
| 20:47.27 | lenswipe | cusco, ok |
| 20:47.38 | stew | ,judd: info xserver-xorg-video-nouveau --release lenny |
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| 20:47.42 | stew | judd: info xserver-xorg-video-nouveau --release lenny |
| 20:47.43 | judd | No record of package 'xserver-xorg-video-nouveau' in lenny/i386. |
| 20:47.48 | cusco | oops, sorry then |
| 20:47.49 | atula | I've been having trouble apt-get update/upgrade with deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main and other defaults in sources.list. what should I do? use other mirrors? |
| 20:47.51 | cusco | my bad |
| 20:48.13 | stew | lenswipe: was "yh" meant for me? |
| 20:48.30 | lenswipe | yes |
| 20:48.32 | lenswipe | and i did it anyway |
| 20:48.35 | lenswipe | it seems to have worked |
| 20:48.41 | cusco | so you're using testing |
| 20:48.50 | lenswipe | no im using lenny backport |
| 20:48.56 | cusco | oh.. ok |
| 20:48.57 | KZKG^Gaara | Does anyone have experience installing and configuring bacula? |
| 20:49.05 | lenswipe | cusco, but its behaving like testing |
| 20:49.14 | cusco | KZKG^Gaara: not really but I do find rsync great for backups :P |
| 20:49.20 | atula | lenswipe: you had issues with apt-get update yesterday? is everything working now ? |
| 20:49.28 | lenswipe | yes everything is working now |
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| 20:51.07 | lenswipe | stew, i tried that program to burn an ISO to CD - it didnt work :( |
| 20:51.08 | KZKG^Gaara | <cusco>: Happens I need to save /etc/, /home/www/ and also mysql multiple databases. And several people recomended me bacula, wonder why |
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| 20:51.26 | lenswipe | stew, i was trying to burn a windows ISO to CD and it made me an unbootable CD |
| 20:51.28 | cusco | KZKG^Gaara: I guess it has a nice gui and several features |
| 20:51.49 | lenswipe | stew, afk for dinner |
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| 20:52.34 | cusco | KZKG^Gaara: however, I find that 'rsync --verbose -az -e ssh root@10.100.100.20:/etc /home/backups/' would be enough |
| 20:52.50 | cusco | (also with the -l switch) |
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| 20:53.15 | cusco | KZKG^Gaara: for mysql, I would rather use mysqldump |
| 20:53.20 | KZKG^Gaara | cusco: rsync can save mysql databases? |
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| 20:53.45 | cusco | KZKG^Gaara: you can copy /var/lib/mysql/, but I would rather use mysqldump |
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| 20:54.13 | KZKG^Gaara | cusco: yeah, I tried (mysqldump) but for some reason the remote does not work |
| 20:54.20 | cusco | ? |
| 20:54.34 | cusco | mysqldump -ubla -pble -hremote.ip |
| 20:54.41 | cusco | mysqldump -ubla -pble -hremote.ip database > db.sql |
| 20:54.52 | stew | don't rely on a copy of /var/lib/mysql working if it was copied out from under a running mysql |
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| 21:02.54 | lenswipe | stew, back |
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| 21:08.45 | hippytaff | I've googled, looked on the debian forum, but can;t fibd the answer...I installed debian to dual boot with ubuntu 10.10, didn't install grub, booted into ubuntu, did sudo update-grub, debian was found, but when I try to boot into debian it hangs at waiting for root filesystem |
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| 21:09.07 | hippytaff | is it a kernel thing? |
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| 21:10.01 | gandhijee | hey, how do i make sure i download the debian sources for the kernel i am running? i did apt-get sources linux and i just got the 2.6.32 |
| 21:10.08 | gandhijee | how to i get the debian version of that? |
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| 21:10.27 | stew | gandhijee: do you really need sources? or do you just need headers? |
| 21:11.16 | stew | to compile an out of tree module, for instance, you need headers not source |
| 21:11.23 | stew | (in fact source wont help) |
| 21:11.33 | gandhijee | stew: i need sources |
| 21:11.58 | stew | gandhijee: "apt-cache search -n linux-source" to get a list of possible source packages |
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| 21:13.03 | gandhijee | stew: i've done that, but i never see the kernel-sources for the kernel i am runnign |
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| 21:13.28 | Arrowmaster | what kernel are you running? |
| 21:13.52 | gandhijee | my debian has 2.6.32-5 |
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| 21:14.38 | egns | how to know if there are bad blocks in a certain device ? |
| 21:14.53 | Arrowmaster | i see the source package for that |
| 21:14.59 | hippytaff | egns: what device? |
| 21:15.09 | gandhijee | which one is it? just the 2.6.32 one? |
| 21:15.16 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:15.25 | stew | judd: versions linux-source-2.6.32 |
| 21:15.26 | judd | Package linux-source-2.6.32 on i386 -- lenny-backports: 2.6.32-26~bpo50+1; lenny-backports: 2.6.32-28~bpo50+1; sid: 2.6.32-28; squeeze: 2.6.32-28 |
| 21:15.38 | egns | hippytaff: a disk... |
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| 21:16.00 | stew | gandhijee: do you need the exact same version fo 2.6.32-5? or any source for 2.6.32-5? |
| 21:16.12 | stew | gandhijee: (and why?) |
| 21:16.29 | Arrowmaster | that looks like the exact same version to me |
| 21:16.55 | stew | Arrowmaster: how do you know what version of 2.6.32-5 he has? |
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| 21:17.15 | stew | or did you mean somehting different |
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| 21:17.33 | Arrowmaster | well if he is running the current one it looks like the same |
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| 21:17.58 | stew | yeah, if he's running the current one, that's the current -source |
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| 21:18.12 | gandhijee | my stock debian is 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-28) according to dmseg |
| 21:18.14 | stew | he also might need the linux-2.6 source package, but I'm not sure what exactly he's after |
| 21:18.30 | gandhijee | the one i just downloaded and compiled from apt-get sources linux-sources-2.6.32 is just plain 2.6.32 |
| 21:18.50 | stew | gandhijee: what version of linux-source-2.6.32 ? |
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| 21:19.11 | stew | gandhijee: what does "apt-cache policy linux-source-2.6.32" say for "Installed:" and "Candidate:"? |
| 21:20.22 | gandhijee | stew: it says its installed |
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| 21:20.31 | stew | gandhijee: what version |
| 21:20.34 | stew | after Installed: |
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| 21:20.43 | gandhijee | do i have to run anything inside my kernel source directory to ge it to install the debian patches? |
| 21:20.50 | stew | gandhijee: no |
| 21:20.56 | stew | gandhijee: what is your eventual goal? |
| 21:21.07 | gandhijee | it siad installed:2.6.32-28 and candidate: 2.6.32-38 |
| 21:21.44 | gandhijee | i have someone that wants to run debian 6 with some custom hardware someone makes |
| 21:21.49 | stew | gandhijee: so yeah, that matches the Debian 2.6.32-28 tthat you were looking for |
| 21:21.52 | gandhijee | and it requires me to patch the kernel |
| 21:22.04 | gandhijee | then why doesn't my dmesg or uname -a reflect that? |
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| 21:22.18 | stew | gandhijee: after compiling? |
| 21:22.25 | gandhijee | yep |
| 21:22.32 | stew | gandhijee: did you compile it with make-kpkg? |
| 21:22.35 | gandhijee | yap |
| 21:23.04 | stew | then you missed eitehr --revision or --apend-to-version? (i can never remember how those work) |
| 21:23.04 | gandhijee | make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --revision=<custom> kernel_image |
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| 21:23.18 | Arrowmaster | i got nothing here, i havent compiled a kernel since woody |
| 21:23.29 | stew | yeah, its been a long time for me too |
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| 21:24.16 | gandhijee | maybe ists the same, and they just appened -5.288 or whatever to it |
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| 21:24.38 | stew | (they don't use make-kpkg) |
| 21:24.56 | delby | i have a package that i did not want to install. how do i know which package is causing the dependency? |
| 21:25.15 | Arrowmaster | delby: aptitude why <packagename> |
| 21:25.16 | stew | delby: aptitude why packagename |
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| 21:25.30 | delby | thanks :) |
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| 21:26.10 | atula | I am having such a hard time doing a clean apt-get update. it seems like lenny/updates or security mirrors aren't working for me... I have tried different us mirrors and even canada mirror, but everything is running fie except for security |
| 21:26.14 | atula | what should I do ? |
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| 21:27.04 | stew | atula: show us the error |
| 21:27.15 | stew | (and I don't think there should be mirrors for security) |
| 21:27.25 | kojones | how to know if there are bad blocks in a certain disk ? |
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| 21:27.48 | atula | stew: http://pastie.org/private/llgu6raourkg5bjhzojwg |
| 21:27.57 | atula | any mirror I swap in for it... it's like that |
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| 21:28.02 | atula | lemme paste my sources.list as well |
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| 21:28.36 | gandhijee | i think i found it |
| 21:28.45 | gandhijee | i need to get the linux-patch-debian |
| 21:28.49 | atula | stew: http://pastie.org/private/llgu6raourkg5bjhzojwg |
| 21:28.51 | gandhijee | not the linux-sources-<ver> |
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| 21:29.05 | atula | thanks |
| 21:29.07 | stew | gandhijee: no, linux-source is patched |
| 21:29.21 | stew | gandhijee: that patch would be what you apply to vanilla sources you downloaded from kernel.org |
| 21:29.41 | rafuch0 | what is order here... lenny ....sid. sqeeze ? |
| 21:29.44 | stew | judd: info linux-source-2.6.32 --release squeeze |
| 21:29.46 | judd | Package linux-source-2.6.32 (kernel, optional) in squeeze/i386: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.32 with Debian patches. Version: 2.6.32-28; Size: 63524.4k; Installed: 63604k |
| 21:29.53 | stew | "with Debian patches" |
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| 21:30.10 | stew | rafuch0: lenny is current stable, squeeze will become the next stable. sid is always unstable |
| 21:30.20 | rafuch0 | ahhhh |
| 21:30.21 | rafuch0 | thnx |
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| 21:30.50 | atula | stew: any thoughts on my issues ? do you think perhaps it's a dns thing ? |
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| 21:31.22 | stew | atula: security isn't mirrored, get it from security.debian.org not ftp.ca.debian.org |
| 21:31.34 | stew | (it isn't mirrored for security reasons) |
| 21:31.51 | atula | stew: that's the thing...same error with that url |
| 21:32.00 | stew | !security |
| 21:32.01 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>. |
| 21:32.21 | Accelerator | Why do I keep getting fed this error? Where in the world is it pulling this user from? "/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 21:32.21 | Accelerator | error: 'Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)' |
| 21:32.21 | Accelerator | " |
| 21:32.22 | stew | oh, could not resolve IS a dns error |
| 21:32.50 | atula | I could get anywhere BUT debian mirros |
| 21:33.00 | atula | this is very annoying indeed... have no idea how to trouble shoot |
| 21:33.25 | stew | Accelerator: because you deleted the user that debian uses for maintanence. see the top of /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-$version/README.Debian |
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| 21:33.56 | Accelerator | I didn't delete it, my technicians did because they're crack heads. |
| 21:33.57 | stew | Accelerator: the password of that user should match the password in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf |
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| 21:34.20 | stew | Accelerator: the init scripts use that user to stop mysql |
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| 21:35.12 | Accelerator | stew, Thank you |
| 21:35.29 | atula | stew: it was working last week. but starting this week, it has been troublesome: http://pastie.org/private/llgu6raourkg5bjhzojwg |
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| 21:35.41 | atula | stew: does my sources.list look like the default oen ? |
| 21:36.00 | stew | atula: yes |
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| 21:36.13 | stew | atula: can you resolve any names? |
| 21:36.23 | stew | atula: like does "host google.com" work? |
| 21:36.33 | atula | stew: yep |
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| 21:36.57 | atula | everything else is fine... except debian.org... which pisses me off... |
| 21:37.00 | atula | stew: ^ |
| 21:38.24 | atula | stew: http://pastie.org/private/tdtk6rfelvoe0qyshlrhbw |
| 21:38.35 | gandhijee | should the debian i download with apt-get sources linux-2.6.32 have a debian directory in it? |
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| 21:39.55 | Martens1984 | I cannot write to a subfolder I shared using samba, what could be wrong? |
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| 21:40.52 | stew | gandhijee: no |
| 21:41.21 | stew | atula: you could use google's dns (8.8.8.8) perhaps and see if that is better |
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| 21:41.47 | atula | stew. that's what I was doing actually. lemme give it a try. will let you know in a sec. |
| 21:42.13 | stew | gandhijee: the debian directory would be in the linux-2.6 source package (which builds all the linux- binary packages like linux-headers-*/linux-source-*/linux-image-*/etc |
| 21:42.18 | stew | ) |
| 21:43.35 | gandhijee | stew: ?? yes, but the linux-2.6 source file has to be unarchived to a directory, and i am asking if that directory should have the debian folder in it |
| 21:44.06 | gandhijee | because linux-source-2.6.32 doesnt have the debian directory, while linux-patch-2.6.32 does have the debian directory in it |
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| 21:44.22 | stew | gandhijee: the linux-2.6 source package would, but not the linux-source-2.6.32 binary package that you are working with |
| 21:44.53 | gandhijee | stew: i downloaded the 2.6.32 sources package at first, not the binary |
| 21:44.55 | stew | note that, the linux-source-2.6.32 package is a debian BINARY package |
| 21:45.07 | stew | its a BINARY package that contains nothing but source |
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| 21:45.31 | gandhijee | ok now i am starting to get a lil confused |
| 21:46.07 | gandhijee | so when i downloaded linux-source-2.6.32 i did not download a patched source tree in a tarball format? |
| 21:46.17 | stew | gandhijee: you did |
| 21:46.25 | gandhijee | ok |
| 21:46.29 | stew | binary packages come in .deb files, source packages are a .dsc file with at least one .tar.gz and perhaps a .diff.gz |
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| 21:46.44 | stew | when you recompile a debian source package it creates one or more binary packages (.deb files) |
| 21:47.04 | gandhijee | so when i unarchive that pacakage, should it not have the debian directory in it? |
| 21:47.31 | Arrowmaster | there should be nothing to unarchive |
| 21:47.43 | stew | if you were to get the linux-2.6 source package and recompile it, it would create dozens of binary packages, like linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 linux-image-2.6.32-5-486 linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 linux-source-2.6.32 linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686 etc |
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| 21:47.58 | stew | gandhijee: no, it should not. that would be in the source package, not one of the binary packages |
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| 21:48.29 | gandhijee | stew: but i thought we established that i did in fact download the source package |
| 21:48.29 | stew | Arrowmaster: yes, there would, it installs /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32.tar.bz2 |
| 21:48.46 | stew | gandhijee: no, you didn't, you installed the binary package named linux-source-2.6.32 |
| 21:49.12 | gandhijee | so apt-get source linux-source-2.6.32 installed the binary package and not the source package is what you are tellin me |
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| 21:49.55 | stew | gandhijee: oh, no, apt-get SOURCE linux-source-2.6.32 would install the linux-2.6 source package, which would have a debian directory, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.32 would install the binary package which doens't |
| 21:50.05 | stew | gandhijee: did you really use apt-get source and not apt-get install? |
| 21:50.12 | gandhijee | yes |
| 21:50.21 | gandhijee | thats why i am confused right now |
| 21:50.43 | stew | then it should have created ./linux-2.6-2.6.32-28 which had a debian/ directory |
| 21:51.07 | stew | did it create $(pwd)/linux-2.6-2.6.32-28 or /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32.tar.bz2 ? |
| 21:53.10 | gandhijee | doesn't matter, i got it installed, but i had to use apt-get install linux-patch-2.6.32 wtc |
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| 21:54.50 | stew | gandhijee: you shouldn't have to, both "apt-get source linux-source-2.6.32" and "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.32" would get you source with debian packages already applied |
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| 21:55.03 | stew | gandhijee: linux-patch-2.6.32 is for patching source from kenrel.org |
| 21:55.10 | stew | gandhijee: and you don't need the debian directory anyway |
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| 21:55.50 | pfred1 | anyone here ever get the intel driver to work with the x server in Lenny? |
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| 21:57.41 | pfred1 | stew guess what I had for dinner? |
| 21:57.45 | breardo | yeah !! |
| 21:57.46 | breardo | stew!!! :) |
| 21:57.54 | pfred1 | breardo :) |
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| 21:58.04 | breardo | :) |
| 21:58.27 | pfred1 | man I am convinced this driver is hash at least for my hardware there is no way it works |
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| 21:59.07 | breardo | whats that about hash? |
| 21:59.55 | pfred1 | breardo that is what the intel driver in X in Lenny is |
| 22:00.01 | breardo | haha nice |
| 22:00.26 | pfred1 | dude I've tried 3 different kernels and I don't know how many builds |
| 22:00.44 | pfred1 | but the docs say it works |
| 22:01.07 | pfred1 | I just ain't quite feeling it anymore here |
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| 22:02.55 | pipeline | intel graphics is a fast-moving target |
| 22:03.01 | pipeline | new hardware comes out constantly |
| 22:03.05 | pipeline | and new driver changes are merged almost daily |
| 22:03.16 | pipeline | you really have to have a trunk kernel and a bleeding-edge system if you have recent hardware |
| 22:03.25 | pipeline | well, almost |
| 22:03.27 | pfred1 | pipeline well they mention my exact stuff in the docs from 2007 |
| 22:03.40 | pipeline | I have a core i5 aw/ integrated graphics, and I was very much surprised to discover it worked with 2.6.32 and didn't need drunk |
| 22:03.40 | pfred1 | an i915 |
| 22:03.48 | pipeline | an actual i915 ? ooh tha's old |
| 22:03.53 | pipeline | that should work 100% ootb with almost not weaking |
| 22:04.20 | pfred1 | yeah all I should need to do is put Driver "intel" into xorg.conf |
| 22:04.28 | pfred1 | and bingo |
| 22:04.32 | pipeline | no |
| 22:04.35 | pipeline | you shouldn't need an xorg.conf |
| 22:04.46 | pipeline | you should be able to just run "X" and get reasonable results with no config at all |
| 22:04.54 | pipeline | what happens if you delete your xorg.conf ? |
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| 22:05.04 | pfred1 | with no conf file it just picks up the vesa driver no hwaccel |
| 22:05.25 | pipeline | that doesn't sound right |
| 22:05.41 | pfred1 | I want the intel accelerated driver in X I already have the kernel and agpgart in the kernel and drm too |
| 22:05.49 | pipeline | can you pastebin logs from attempts with and without a config file ?? |
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| 22:06.29 | pfred1 | I can sum it up in three words the best I got it it said No Device Found |
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| 22:07.00 | Martens1984 | Oh bother... it seems I screwed up the permissions of a folder I shared... I cannot access the share anymore from Windows7, how do I set permissions to reed/write the shared folder? |
| 22:07.02 | pfred1 | even though it had the right PCI slot and everything |
| 22:07.49 | pipeline | Martens1984: remember, there are two layers of permissions: share, and file |
| 22:07.55 | pfred1 | I got to just break down and buy a nvidia card for this box |
| 22:08.08 | pipeline | Martens1984: make sure that your account has the ability to write to the shared folder |
| 22:08.12 | pipeline | Martens1984: THEN check the share permissions |
| 22:08.32 | Martens1984 | pipeline: file permissions, I checked share permissions they are ok |
| 22:09.18 | Martens1984 | pipeline: I have to sudo su, before I can enter the shared map |
| 22:09.48 | pipeline | Martens1984: that would indicate that you probably don't have the file permissions right :) |
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| 22:10.24 | Martens1984 | pipeline: I tried chmod -R -rw /map/ but it does not seem to work |
| 22:10.39 | pipeline | Martens1984: so the "/map" directory is what is being shared ? |
| 22:10.49 | pipeline | Martens1984: chown the directory to the user that is accessing it, problem solved |
| 22:11.01 | pipeline | Martens1984: e.g. if your user is "marten" chown -R marten /map |
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| 22:11.42 | simonrvn | uh, why remove rw perms? |
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| 22:12.07 | Martens1984 | simonrvn: I want to add rw perms |
| 22:12.12 | pipeline | yeah you removed them |
| 22:12.29 | pfred1 | pipeline here you go for laughs http://pastebin.com/6KsjRK5W |
| 22:12.35 | Martens1984 | pipeline: checking it now.... chown in proggres.... .... .... |
| 22:13.02 | Martens1984 | pipeline: denied |
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| 22:13.35 | Martens1984 | pipeline: I want full access for everyone to /map |
| 22:13.36 | pipeline | Martens1984: simonrvn pointed out an additional problem -- you chmodded everything to be unreadable. chmod -R u+rw /map |
| 22:13.55 | pipeline | Martens1984: are you sure ? ... you can chmod -R 777 /map, but that is usually a bad idea |
| 22:14.00 | pipeline | pfred1: ooh that's fuckin weird |
| 22:14.28 | Martens1984 | pipeline: no... this is is shared map... supposed to have full access for averyone |
| 22:14.45 | pipeline | pfred1: oh wait that error just refers to your config, and is not a hw-related error. |
| 22:14.49 | rafuch0 | 777 is allways a bad idea |
| 22:14.59 | pipeline | Martens1984: the problem with 777 is that it means that anonymous users and shit can write |
| 22:14.59 | Martens1984 | rafuch0: why? |
| 22:15.11 | rafuch0 | common |
| 22:15.18 | pfred1 | pipeline no it was trying to load the driver from the conf file and couldn't find the hardware |
| 22:15.20 | pipeline | Martens1984: I would assign a group owner to /map, chmod g+t the directory, and make sure that all users are members of the group that owns it |
| 22:15.21 | Martens1984 | pipeline: I know... but that's the idea |
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| 22:15.37 | pipeline | pfred1: I meant the thing I thought was weird. Try pasting complete logs into pastebin, from /var/log, instead of just the stuff that gets printed |
| 22:15.42 | Martens1984 | pipeline: It has to be reed/writeable by windows users |
| 22:16.05 | pipeline | Martens1984: oh... you probably want to add the samba server to the windows domain then |
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| 22:16.35 | pfred1 | pipeline that was a snippet from /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 22:16.43 | pipeline | pfred1: yeah paste the whole thing into the pastebin |
| 22:17.03 | pfred1 | pipeline the rest doesn't have anything t odo with the driver |
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| 22:17.06 | HackeMate | hello, I have this problem http://pastebin.com/CXcKE3K0 - I try to modify the nxserver header to avoid the LSB error |
| 22:17.12 | HackeMate | now it says is already loaded |
| 22:17.14 | pipeline | pfred1: still curious |
| 22:17.37 | pfred1 | pipeline just junk about a mouse and keyboard nothing earth shattering |
| 22:17.49 | Martens1984 | pipeline: there is no domain.... yet |
| 22:18.44 | pipeline | Martens1984: ok... well... then what you shoudl do, and this is fucking terrible and no one should ever do it... is make the directory 777, then enable anonyomus writes, I guess. Christ that's terrible advice. Maybe you could check the samba docs on user coercion, forcing samba's anonymous user to be someone other than "nobody" |
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| 22:23.06 | Martens1984 | pipeline: don't get upset with yourself now... It just that I have this Slug witch has a share that needs to be accessed from different (Windows) computers... just home based, in the middle of f...ng nowhere |
| 22:23.38 | pipeline | Martens1984: so the problem is keeping credentials in sync between samba and windows |
| 22:23.53 | pipeline | Martens1984: if there's one windows client, and one samba server, it's easy. If there's a windows domain, it's easy. The problem is in between. |
| 22:24.31 | Martens1984 | pipeline: there are multiple (2) windows clients.... |
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| 22:25.26 | pinkisntwell | is it possible to suspend or hibernate from the command line? |
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| 22:29.35 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: man s2ram man s2disk |
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| 22:29.59 | pipeline | Martens1984: if there are that few accounts, I would just manually keep the passwords in sync, and assign the users to a common group... then make that directory owned/readable/writable by the group |
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| 22:30.38 | pinkisntwell | pipeline: "unable to locate package s2ram" |
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| 22:31.58 | rubin110_ | I just rebooted my server and during boot up it's repeating this messages: rpcbind: server localhost not responding, timed out |
| 22:32.19 | rubin110_ | I can't actaully get to shell to debug or fix this. |
| 22:32.47 | rubin110_ | I've tried booting up through the recovery item in grub, but still getting the same thing. |
| 22:33.03 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: 1. you're probably on ubuntu, because that error is wrong. 2. s2ram and s2disk may not be in your path, because they're sbin binaries |
| 22:33.09 | rubin110_ | Oh hey, it looks like it finally gave up. |
| 22:33.10 | rubin110_ | Woo hoo. |
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| 22:33.14 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: oh wait as a man error |
| 22:33.19 | pinkisntwell | pipeline: i'm on debian |
| 22:33.22 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: you need to install the swsuspend package |
| 22:33.27 | pinkisntwell | pipeline: ok |
| 22:33.43 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: it's called "uswsusp" |
| 22:33.59 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: oh crap no it's not |
| 22:34.07 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: the "hibernate" package provides s2disk and s2ram |
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| 22:35.36 | sudoman | does anyone know why my upgrade to squeeze (powerpc) is showing some wierd colors? http://imgur.com/mK8Uv |
| 22:35.55 | pinkisntwell | pipeline: i have hibernate installed but i don't have s2disk or s2ram |
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| 22:36.41 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: I told you right the first time and wrong the second... uswsusp *is* the s2disk/s2ram provider... I just had both installed on my laptop and didn't notice |
| 22:37.03 | pipeline | sudoman: looks like you don't have a truecolor visual |
| 22:37.37 | pinkisntwell | pipeline: ok |
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| 22:38.00 | pipeline | sudoman: xdpyinfo | less, then look for a truecolor visual in 16 or 24 bits depth... if you have no truecolor visuals, or only 8 bit, I think we found your problem. |
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| 22:41.29 | sudoman | pipeline: the word truecolor isn't in the output. also, i think that fbdev or something is being used as the xorg driver instead of ati, though i'n not sure. also kms drm modesetting isn't working, |
| 22:41.53 | DasKreecH | Hello can someone point me to some docs for deb packaging? |
| 22:42.11 | pipeline | sudoman: yeah we found the problem |
| 22:42.13 | DasKreecH | I'm packaging a program but the deb only has the config files when I'm done |
| 22:42.33 | DasKreecH | though the debuild -b process does through some rules errors |
| 22:42.35 | pipeline | sudoman: if you have no truecolor visuals something is epically busted in your video configuration. Wrong driver, driver misconfigured, not sure. I don't know much about x.org on PPC, either. I think you're barking up the right tree though. |
| 22:42.36 | sudoman | pipeline: do i have to disable kms on the radeon card? |
| 22:42.43 | pipeline | sudoman: I don't know if kms works on ppc |
| 22:43.06 | pipeline | sudoman: shouldn't you be using the "radeon" driver rather than "ati" ? |
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| 22:43.45 | sudoman | pipeline: on a newer kernel version of ubuntu, i had to disable kms for radeon to get hw rasterizing. the xorg log mentions radeon |
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| 22:45.28 | pinkisntwell | pipeline: i just installed uswsusp and i can't find s2ram or s2disk |
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| 22:48.35 | sudoman | pipeline: TrueColor is actually in the output. i just got the case wrong. it says depth: 24 planes. |
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| 22:50.37 | bronaugh | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.53 | bronaugh | getting this quite a bit on 2.6.30, 2.6.32, and 2.6.36 on Debian. |
| 22:50.57 | sudoman | pipeline: i'll try booting without kms and let you know the results |
| 22:51.07 | bronaugh | and yes, the tasks are actually hung. |
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| 22:53.15 | mathbr | Hi. Any idea what might be wrong if my .xinput.d/de_DE file is ignored, thus scim never invoked? Iâm using Unstable and start Xfce via startx while my .xinitrc reads "exec ck-launch-session xfce4-session". |
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| 22:53.47 | hellnest | hello all, i need a help :) |
| 22:54.13 | hellnest | http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=61637 <--- Described in this link ^^ |
| 22:54.14 | rubin110_ | Running rcconf as root, I am unable to enable nfs-common and portmap? :( |
| 22:54.45 | hellnest | it's happen on my Debian Squeeze & Linux Mint Debian ( which is same ) |
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| 22:55.58 | sudoman | pipeline: disabling kms didn't do the trick. |
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| 23:06.53 | Obsidian1723 | Guys, that is messed up on the New Zealand company stealing the Debian logo.... I hope you kick their a$$ for that in court. |
| 23:07.11 | Obsidian1723 | Anyway, just wanted to toss my support out there for Debian. |
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| 23:09.51 | nevyn | Obsidian1723: url? |
| 23:10.42 | sudoman | nevyn: try http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/ecpch/a_local_computer_shop_near_me_has_stolen_the/ |
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| 23:10.59 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 23:11.05 | lenswipe | im doing a windows linux dual boot |
| 23:11.14 | lenswipe | windows overwrote the master boot record |
| 23:11.18 | lenswipe | how do i put grub back? |
| 23:11.56 | do0ob | Hi |
| 23:12.01 | do0ob | i hope you don't mind me asking |
| 23:12.07 | do0ob | but are java applets dead now? |
| 23:12.10 | bronaugh | yes, your mom is a hooker. |
| 23:12.44 | bronaugh | and no, java applets aren't dead -- they're just resting. |
| 23:12.47 | do0ob | lenswipe: ask in the distro's channel |
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| 23:12.57 | do0ob | in peace forever? |
| 23:12.59 | lenswipe | do0ob, this is #debian |
| 23:13.21 | Obsidian1723 | http://legendpc.co.nz |
| 23:13.22 | lenswipe | do0ob, this is the distros channel |
| 23:13.25 | sudoman | lenswipe: the default irc server is different |
| 23:13.26 | do0ob | not again |
| 23:13.28 | bronaugh | lenswipe: general procedure: boot in recovery mode, if necessary chroot into the filesystem, run install-grub |
| 23:13.30 | Obsidian1723 | http://legendpc.co.nz < stole the Debian logo |
| 23:13.41 | do0ob | sry, wrong channel |
| 23:13.42 | lenswipe | ok |
| 23:13.46 | Obsidian1723 | They changed the color... how nice of them ;) /snark |
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| 23:14.31 | Obsidian1723 | People talk about Ubuntu stealing from Debian, at least they never took it this far... |
| 23:14.35 | jelly-home | Obsidian1723: please stop repeating this. This is a user-support channel only. If you want to contact someone able to do something, the debian-legal mailing list may have pointers. |
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| 23:14.44 | lenswipe | bronaugh, will that detect my windows install aswell? |
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| 23:14.57 | jelly-home | !debian-legal |
| 23:14.58 | dpkg | i guess debian-legal is http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/ |
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| 23:15.16 | Obsidian1723 | jelly-home I was trying to be nice... |
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| 23:15.20 | Obsidian1723 | whatever man. |
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| 23:16.05 | bronaugh | lenswipe: you'll have to edit your grub config to get it to boot into win. |
| 23:16.27 | lenswipe | great |
| 23:16.29 | bronaugh | jelly-home: so, do you help people? |
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| 23:16.34 | lenswipe | bronaugh, so how do i do that? |
| 23:17.12 | bronaugh | lenswipe: well; you could search the fine web like I did: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grubconf-for-windows-vista-or-xp-dual-boot/ |
| 23:17.13 | jelly-home | bronaugh: I sometimes provide help with tech issues I have experience with, yes. |
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| 23:17.33 | lenswipe | bronaugh, thanks dude |
| 23:17.43 | bronaugh | jelly-home: ok, what do you have experience with? I've got a transient apparent kernel bug where tasks hang in kernel. |
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| 23:18.04 | bronaugh | there's some debian bugs posted (also redhat bugs), but no resolution I've found. |
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| 23:18.11 | bronaugh | also this spans at least 7 kernel versions. |
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| 23:18.24 | bronaugh | possibly as many as 19 |
| 23:19.10 | bronaugh | I've only seen two things that may have any effect: disabling nohz, and disabling high-resolution timers. |
| 23:19.25 | bronaugh | but I can't really find any confirmation on either of them, nor any explanation as to why that might work. |
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| 23:20.42 | jelly-home | bronaugh: find a relevant bug report or open a new one for src:linux-2.6 or linux-image-`uname -r` package, and give all the info you gave here, including versions and packages where this happens |
| 23:22.00 | jelly-home | 2.6.30 and .32 have been part of sid and testing, and I guess you got 2.6.36 from experimental? If not, try reproducing it with that kernel and mention that as well |
| 23:22.20 | bronaugh | yup. I pulled from experimental. |
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| 23:24.58 | jelly-home | I get hung tasks with i386 package 2.6.36-trunk-amd64 as well; unsure as to the cause (my hardware might be slightly buggy) |
| 23:26.14 | bronaugh | well; it's not buggy hardware here. |
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| 23:26.30 | bronaugh | two different Supermicro servers, one of which is new, the other of which has been in production for over a year. |
| 23:26.34 | bronaugh | tested the crap out of both. |
| 23:26.39 | bronaugh | both are in a data cente. |
| 23:26.40 | bronaugh | center. |
| 23:26.51 | bronaugh | do you use mdraid? |
| 23:27.15 | jelly-home | yes, md raid1 |
| 23:28.27 | bronaugh | ok we're using mdraid on both machines. |
| 23:28.32 | bronaugh | so this could be a constant. |
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| 23:31.33 | jelly-home | however, my hung tasks correspond either with bugs in a very cheap eth. card, or periods of RAM starvation and swapping... Linux isn't very good at pulling itself out from a swapped out situation, so I don't see these as bugs at all |
| 23:31.43 | jelly-home | (not software bugs anyway) |
| 23:31.50 | bronaugh | ok. there's 24G RAM in these boxes, and we aren't running them out. |
| 23:31.57 | bronaugh | and the ethernet cards are Intel e1000 |
| 23:33.09 | jelly-home | we don't use squeeze (or $DEITY forbid sid) in a production enviroment |
| 23:33.38 | bronaugh | note that it's happening on RHEL5 too. |
| 23:34.02 | bronaugh | "supposedly" stable. |
| 23:34.05 | jelly-home | well, since you have RHEL licenses, you can also file reports in their bugzilla |
| 23:34.11 | bronaugh | nope, we don't use it. |
| 23:34.17 | bronaugh | I've just dug up bug reports of exactly this happening. |
| 23:34.30 | jelly-home | "exactly?" |
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| 23:34.47 | bronaugh | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=605444 |
| 23:35.12 | bronaugh | oddly similar hardware to mine.. hmmm |
| 23:35.23 | jelly-home | I mean, how do you recognize it's exactly the same situation |
| 23:36.05 | bronaugh | well; you've got hung tasks, blocked w/in filesystem drivers. |
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| 23:36.50 | bronaugh | there's no consistency in those reports, or in my log, about where these things hang. |
| 23:36.54 | jelly-home | yeah, but that's also typical when tasks are _really_ hanging on for IO |
| 23:37.24 | jelly-home | (like on my 4GB desktop where I run 5GB-allocating perl ;-) |
| 23:37.32 | bronaugh | true enough. |
| 23:37.41 | bronaugh | but my particular machines are under near-zero load when this happens. |
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| 23:37.52 | jelly-home | that's unusual |
| 23:38.12 | jelly-home | what about their io load |
| 23:38.17 | bronaugh | near-zero. |
| 23:38.31 | bronaugh | totally responsive otherwise, no i/o of any significance going on. |
| 23:38.46 | bronaugh | in fact, this has happened when the task that hung was the only task that was doing any i/o at all. |
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| 23:40.30 | jelly-home | tried changing io schedulers just for fun (eg. deadline or the old anticipatory instead of now-default cfq)? |
| 23:41.04 | bronaugh | ok I just switched schedulers to deadline. |
| 23:41.07 | bronaugh | gonna see what that does. |
| 23:41.22 | bronaugh | by all the reports I've read cfq -is- the most likely candidate. |
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| 23:46.28 | jelly-home | cfq used to be very buggy around I think 2.6.15-20 or so; it got my backup staging machines (10-50 parallel writers) very unresponsive, but didn't crash or hang things. deadline was much better for server usage, if shell responsivity and loadavg are a measure |
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| 23:47.39 | bronaugh | jelly-home: cute. |
| 23:47.59 | jelly-home | I think our web hosting admin has seen almost the same behavior with 2.6.34 or .36 this week (loadavg of 150 is fun!) |
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| 23:48.32 | jelly-home | switching to deadline made the machine behave, again |
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| 23:49.16 | bronaugh | huh. |
| 23:49.18 | bronaugh | so CFQ sucks nuts. |
| 23:49.23 | jelly-home | so if you're lucky perhaps it might work-around the real bug and not trigger it (that often ;-) |
| 23:49.53 | bronaugh | guh. |
| 23:49.58 | bronaugh | it could be the bugs are in CFQ |
| 23:50.01 | bronaugh | just dunno. |
| 23:50.06 | jelly-home | well, it sucks nuts on some kernels, for some server usage patterns |
| 23:50.07 | bronaugh | don't like not knowing. |
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| 23:51.21 | jelly-home | yeah, but if installing sysfsutils and echo block/sda/queue/scheduler=deadline >> /etc/sysfs.conf fixes it... |
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| 23:52.11 | bronaugh | jelly-home: heh; more like... |
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| 23:52.24 | bronaugh | for i in sd*/queue/scheduler; do echo deadline > $i; done |
| 23:52.37 | bronaugh | be a cold day in hell before I did that manually. |
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| 23:53.26 | bronaugh | 16 disks in that box. |
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| 23:53.51 | jelly-home | I think 80 sd* devices is our current maximum. It's only 10 LUNs but 8 paths for each |
| 23:53.59 | bronaugh | yum. |
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| 23:54.48 | jelly-home | after sdz comes sdaa! |
| 23:55.10 | bronaugh | haha |
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