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| 00:01.31 | sweetpi | crypted: php_value max_execution_time 300 |
| 00:02.13 | crypted | lemme give that a go |
| 00:02.44 | crypted | refreshing... shall see |
| 00:04.01 | crypted | negative |
| 00:04.03 | crypted | didnt work |
| 00:04.15 | crypted | Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds e |
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| 00:05.23 | abrotman | think to ask ##php ? |
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| 00:05.40 | crypted | haha |
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| 00:05.44 | crypted | well im always in here |
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| 00:05.48 | crypted | so negative on that |
| 00:05.50 | crypted | <3 |
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| 00:07.19 | sweetpi | crypted: maybe its not even paying attention to the .htaccess, you could always try set_time_limit in the script instead |
| 00:08.32 | crypted | allrighty |
| 00:08.34 | crypted | will mess with that |
| 00:08.35 | crypted | thanks |
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| 00:10.55 | fas3r | hello |
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| 00:11.33 | fas3r | can i put some command in /etc/network/interfaces ? i mean to activate the interface br) with the command brctl addbr br0 ? |
| 00:11.53 | zebradog | fas3r, /usr/share/doc/bridge* ? |
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| 00:12.16 | zebradog | fas3r, there ought to be some hints.. i remember bridging can be easy or tricky.. depending on what you wanna do.. |
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| 00:13.07 | fas3r | zebradog: zell i just want create the interface bridge for virtualbox |
| 00:13.59 | xuser | fas3r: yes, you can add commands, man interfaces |
| 00:13.59 | zebradog | fas3r, i thought that gets done in the gui |
| 00:14.02 | fas3r | i have add some lines to configure br0 in /etc.../interfaces but i need to create the bridge interface with the command brctl |
| 00:14.09 | fas3r | oki |
| 00:14.13 | fas3r | thank .) |
| 00:14.17 | fas3r | :) |
| 00:14.20 | zebradog | fas3r, i haven't look into it with virtualbox.. |
| 00:14.52 | zebradog | (gui as virtualbox'es app program controlling its interfaces) |
| 00:16.51 | fas3r | zebradog: its not a virtualbox problem |
| 00:18.02 | streuner | how do you know? |
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| 00:18.18 | fas3r | streuner: u talk to me ? |
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| 00:18.32 | streuner | no, to your ghost :-P |
| 00:18.36 | fas3r | ^^ |
| 00:19.05 | fas3r | well like i said i put the configuration in /etc/.../interfaces for the interface br0 |
| 00:19.30 | fas3r | but it not exist and i need to use the command brctl addbr br0 before the configuration |
| 00:20.04 | fas3r | its why i ask if i can run a command from the file interfaces before push the configuration on the br0 interface |
| 00:20.07 | streuner | hm |
| 00:20.48 | fas3r | if i use the command brctl addbr br0 and i make ifconfig br0 up .. its good |
| 00:20.49 | moldovean | fas3r, virtualbox just create that bridging for you |
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| 00:22.43 | fas3r | moldovean: maybe |
| 00:22.46 | moldovean | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.10 | moldovean | for sure , not maybe |
| 00:23.16 | fas3r | moldovean: ok i just use virtualbox since 2 days so ... |
| 00:25.08 | sophacles_work | hi all, im having a problem with grub2 -- i installed a new hard drive in a computer, then copied copied the disk over. i set up /etc/default/grub to have a GRUB_DEVICE_UUID, GRUB_DEVICE_BOOT and GRUB_DEVICE_BOOT_UUID all pointing at the new hard drive, then i do update-grub2; grub-install /dev/newdev and reboot with the old hdd removed. when grub loads it loads "rescue mode" and says the disk was not found. what am |
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| 00:26.16 | fas3r | moldovean: i follow this how to : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-up-host-interface-networking-for-virtualbox-on-ubuntu.html |
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| 00:28.48 | acrocycle | I just installed Squeeze and there is no xorg.conf. After some reading, I hear xserver configures itself now? How do I configure my touchscreen then? |
| 00:29.18 | abrotman | you can use 'X -configure' to generate an xorg.conf |
| 00:29.45 | acrocycle | Will that generate an xorg.conf that would match whatever xserver has in it now? |
| 00:29.51 | abrotman | i believe so |
| 00:29.52 | acrocycle | ...everything will work the same? |
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| 00:30.05 | acrocycle | okay... I guess I can just delete the xorg.conf now and things will hopefully work. |
| 00:31.02 | baffled | So I'm wondering what else am I missing. |
| 00:31.24 | acrocycle | abrotman: I get this: Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again. |
| 00:31.46 | abrotman | you can't do it when X is running or you have to specify a different display |
| 00:31.47 | acrocycle | I must need to shutdown xserver? |
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| 00:31.55 | acrocycle | okay, thanks |
| 00:32.03 | acrocycle | bye bye then! |
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| 00:32.14 | baffled | I thought there should be an init in the ramfs but there doesn't appear to be one and I've checked a few other systems and they don't have it either. |
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| 00:33.02 | baffled | So does that mean the kernel checks for it on the root file system of the hard drive instead of in the ramfs? |
| 00:33.18 | baffled | That seems a tad weird to me. |
| 00:34.14 | wumba | So Im writing a backup script for my NTFS drives, would an ext3 Backup drive speed performance or is NTFS->NTFS going to be as fast? |
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| 00:43.33 | Benkinooby | hi what is the advantage of following the debian how to for installation from usb stick (, formating, installing syslinux, copying vmlinuz, initrd.gz,..., copying cd-image ) over just copying the cd image bit yb bit to the pen drive (with dd or so) |
| 00:46.42 | nevyn | Benkinooby: one of them results in a usb key that boots and one doesn't |
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| 00:49.20 | Benkinooby | nevyn: hmmm. i understand the difference between copying the image as a file to the pen drive and "cloning" the cd to the drive. even the how to describes an alternative, that uses zcat on a image that gets ">" to the drive. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en so if i put the image on the pendrive, starting from the first bit it should be like a debian installation ccd |
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| 00:53.30 | nevyn | nope. |
| 00:53.44 | nevyn | even if you clone the CD to the pendrive it's not the same. |
| 00:54.03 | nevyn | the usbdrive needs a fat filesystem with syslinux the cdimage is a iso9660 filesyste etc. |
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| 00:57.13 | Benkinooby | nevyn: hmmm... i thought, the pendrive would be recongnized as the cd (as long as the drive is big enough). ok, thank you for your time & patience |
| 00:58.05 | nevyn | Benkinooby: unless you know a way to do u3 type tricks |
| 00:58.10 | nevyn | in which case it would work. |
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| 00:59.07 | Benkinooby | nevyn, i don't ;) |
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| 01:14.54 | seeker7 | when i aptitude install nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-kernel-common it says that it can not find either of the packages |
| 01:15.16 | abrotman | do you have the contrib/non-free sources? |
| 01:15.37 | seeker7 | abrotman: how do i find out |
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| 01:17.10 | abrotman | look in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:17.34 | dvs | abrotman: where have you been? |
| 01:18.35 | abrotman | dvs: long, out-of-country holiday |
| 01:18.41 | dvs | ah |
| 01:18.49 | dvs | well deserved |
| 01:18.50 | seeker7 | abrotman: all there is in the sources.list are debian ftp sites for lenny |
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| 01:19.06 | abrotman | seeker7: paste.debian.net |
| 01:19.35 | abrotman | dvs: my brother played in the world championship for ultimate frisbee in prague |
| 01:20.06 | dvs | really? that's exciting |
| 01:20.27 | abrotman | yes really! |
| 01:21.04 | seeker7 | abrotman: ok it is there |
| 01:21.12 | abrotman | where? |
| 01:21.30 | seeker7 | i pasted to past.debian.net |
| 01:21.33 | abrotman | !tell seeker7 about contrib |
| 01:21.38 | abrotman | !tell seeker7 about non-free |
| 01:21.48 | abrotman | dvs: i'm sure i was barely missed |
| 01:21.50 | seeker7 | oops pasted to paste.debian.net |
| 01:21.56 | dvs | heh |
| 01:22.08 | moldovean | http://paste.debian.net/80573 |
| 01:22.16 | abrotman | i found it .. |
| 01:22.19 | dvs | i noticed |
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| 01:33.19 | Alagar | any one can help me. when i try to change the user password automaticaly it asking the ldap password change. but its not asking after some time. http://pastebin.com/prx88d1B is any service restart for this issue? |
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| 01:33.52 | seeker7 | abrotman: how do i ask dpkg a question it wants me to ask about non-free sources |
| 01:34.08 | abrotman | seeker7: /msg dpkg foo |
| 01:34.40 | seeker7 | abrotman: i added contrib site to sources.list as dpkg suggested and still it can not find |
| 01:34.55 | abrotman | did you 'aptitude update' ? |
| 01:35.00 | abrotman | you probably need non-free also |
| 01:35.35 | seeker7 | abrotman: yes that is what i am trying to find out from dpkg now |
| 01:36.31 | dvs | seeker7: what's to find out. abrotman gave you an answer. |
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| 01:39.57 | seeker7 | abrotman: i put the non-free in the sources.list and still it can not find nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-kernel-common |
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| 01:40.18 | abrotman | seeker7: which version of debian ? |
| 01:40.31 | seeker7 | abrotman: 5 lenny |
| 01:41.49 | seeker7 | abrotman: dpkg suggests i go to nvidia channel but noone answers me there |
| 01:42.00 | abrotman | judd: versions nvidia-kernel-source |
| 01:42.01 | judd | nvidia-kernel-source -- etch/non-free: 1.0.8776-4; lenny/non-free: 173.14.09-5; sid/non-free: 195.36.24-4; squeeze/non-free: 195.36.24-4 |
| 01:42.10 | abrotman | it's in non-free .. make sure you did the aptitude update |
| 01:42.48 | seeker7 | abrotman: i did |
| 01:43.28 | abrotman | put `apt-cache policy` in a paste.debian.net |
| 01:44.20 | seeker7 | abrotman: what is the path for that |
| 01:44.54 | abrotman | path? |
| 01:45.23 | seeker7 | abrotman: where do i find apt-cache policy to copy and paste |
| 01:45.40 | abrotman | it's a command |
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| 01:46.24 | dvs | seeker7: paste the output of that |
| 01:47.10 | seeker7 | ok just a sec |
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| 01:48.26 | sam113101 | okay, I've just installed debian and now want to install gtk |
| 01:48.30 | sam113101 | so I said |
| 01:48.37 | sam113101 | aptitude search gtk |
| 01:48.46 | sam113101 | and the list of packets is too long |
| 01:48.52 | abrotman | what is it for? |
| 01:48.56 | sam113101 | how I can like scroll up |
| 01:49.09 | seeker7 | abrotman and dvs: i pasted it |
| 01:49.20 | abrotman | we need the URL |
| 01:49.29 | webPragmatist | sam113101: aptitude search gtk | less |
| 01:49.47 | dvs | more! |
| 01:49.53 | sam113101 | I'll use nano |
| 01:49.56 | sam113101 | right ? |
| 01:50.06 | abrotman | libgtk ? |
| 01:50.10 | seeker7 | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/80574/ |
| 01:50.14 | sam113101 | should be that |
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| 01:50.34 | abrotman | seeker7: apt-get update && aptitude update .. then try again |
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| 01:52.10 | webPragmatist | sam113101: gtk for what!?! |
| 01:52.25 | webPragmatist | gtk is a generic frickin image manipulation library⦠it could be for anything |
| 01:53.01 | sam113101 | ok in more how do I scroll up |
| 01:53.15 | dvs | b |
| 01:53.51 | seeker7 | abrotman: no it still can not find it I am about ready to say forget it |
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| 01:54.01 | abrotman | seeker7: paste your sources.list again |
| 01:54.31 | sam113101 | well to run gtk apps |
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| 01:54.49 | dvs | sam113101: just install the apps |
| 01:54.57 | dvs | gtk will follow |
| 01:55.04 | sam113101 | yeah |
| 01:55.11 | sam113101 | should try firefox |
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| 01:55.29 | dvs | sam113101: debian has iceweasel |
| 01:55.32 | abrotman | sam113101: aptitude install iceweasel .. it will install the gtk it needs |
| 01:56.15 | sam113101 | I thought I could find firefox in the depots |
| 01:56.26 | abrotman | use iceweasel |
| 01:56.46 | sam113101 | dammit |
| 01:56.54 | sam113101 | sudo: command not found |
| 01:57.05 | webPragmatist | omg |
| 01:57.15 | webPragmatist | apt-get install sudo |
| 01:57.20 | abrotman | sam113101: this isn't ubuntu |
| 01:58.13 | abrotman | you don't need sudo, and it isn't installed/configured by default |
| 01:58.45 | webPragmatist | probably a good idea to have sudo if you are going to install iceweasel :) |
| 01:58.53 | abrotman | why? |
| 01:58.56 | sam113101 | I don't need it, but should I install it |
| 01:59.11 | webPragmatist | i dunno |
| 01:59.13 | webPragmatist | cause |
| 01:59.19 | abrotman | that's dumb |
| 01:59.20 | webPragmatist | monkeys |
| 01:59.23 | webPragmatist | bite me |
| 02:00.01 | webPragmatist | otherwise dude will probably surf around the web in root for funzies |
| 02:00.46 | abrotman | a sensible DM wouldn't allow root to login to X by default |
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| 02:00.58 | sam113101 | what is the difference between su and sudo |
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| 02:01.20 | FDfh | Does anyone know of a tool for debian that creates iso files? |
| 02:02.00 | abrotman | mkisofs ? |
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| 02:05.08 | FDfh | abrotman: thanks :D |
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| 02:06.54 | peterrooney | sam113101: su changes what user you are. requires target user's password. |
| 02:07.11 | seeker7 | abrotman: it is there sorry for the delay |
| 02:07.33 | docgnome | I have an intel wireless card. I installed firmware-iwlwifi but when i scan i don't see any networks. |
| 02:07.44 | docgnome | i know the card is good cause it worked when i had debian 64bit installed |
| 02:07.51 | peterrooney | sam113101: sudo takes a command, and sees if you're allowed to run that command as another user.. may require your password. |
| 02:07.55 | abrotman | !tell seeker7 about sources.list |
| 02:08.11 | abrotman | docgnome: which card exactly |
| 02:08.32 | docgnome | abrotman: doh. just figure out the problem. my user isn't in the group to be able to use the card |
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| 02:09.07 | abrotman | the netdev group ? |
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| 02:09.31 | docgnome | hrm... i am part of netdev.. but root can see stuff when i scan |
| 02:09.32 | docgnome | but not my user |
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| 02:10.20 | abrotman | using which app ? |
| 02:10.30 | docgnome | wicd-curses and iwlist |
| 02:11.05 | docgnome | actually root just sees stuff with iwlist |
| 02:11.14 | docgnome | my user doesn't see anything with either app |
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| 02:15.44 | sam113101 | is iceweasel dependant of X.Org |
| 02:15.50 | sam113101 | no, right ? |
| 02:16.18 | dvs | sam113101: yeah..... |
| 02:16.49 | sam113101 | yeah but it won't be in its dependencies |
| 02:17.07 | sam113101 | I could run it with another windowing system |
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| 02:17.58 | docgnome | what groups do i need to be part of to scan for networks with iwlist? just netdev? |
| 02:17.59 | Arrowmaster | i think you might be confusing something |
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| 02:18.09 | Arrowmaster | X.Org is not a windowing system |
| 02:18.19 | sam113101 | it's what |
| 02:18.42 | sam113101 | I'm new to linux |
| 02:18.43 | Arrowmaster | X server and X client |
| 02:19.01 | dvs | sam113101: iceweasel depends on gtk which depends on x11 |
| 02:19.33 | sam113101 | I just installed iceweasel and x11 wasn't on dependencies |
| 02:20.00 | Arrowmaster | because its not |
| 02:20.08 | dvs | libx11 is |
| 02:20.13 | Arrowmaster | right |
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| 02:21.01 | sam113101 | oh noes, it does the same thing that it did with arch linux |
| 02:21.19 | sam113101 | I ran X and my two screens shut down |
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| 02:24.44 | acu_ | is there usb 3.0 driver/support in squeeze ? |
| 02:24.49 | Nwallins | is there a trick to import a user's, um, environment, into their crontab? e.g. `env ruby` works when logged in, but not in crontab |
| 02:25.04 | dvs | acu_: no, the kernel is too old. |
| 02:25.51 | sam113101 | oh noes, it does the same thing that it did with arch linux |
| 02:25.58 | sam113101 | I ran X and my two screens shut down |
| 02:26.04 | acu_ | dvs : so I have to compile my own kernel ? which kernel does have usb 3.0 supprot |
| 02:26.06 | sam113101 | I really need to fix this |
| 02:26.34 | dvs | acu_: the latest stable does |
| 02:27.00 | Arrowmaster | dvs: squeeze has a newer kernel than stable |
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| 02:27.33 | dvs | Arrowmaster: the latest stable kernel (2.6.34.1) |
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| 02:28.16 | acu_ | dvs: thanks - I almost felt that I do not need to know everything :) WRONG :) Masochism and persistence are the debian way - winnies use Ubuntu, and slaves Microsoft :) |
| 02:28.33 | dvs | heh |
| 02:29.12 | Arrowmaster | sam113101: so on a fresh install X doesnt work for you? or have you done anything to the system? |
| 02:29.34 | sam113101 | fresh install |
| 02:29.41 | sam113101 | it did this with arch linux |
| 02:29.46 | sam113101 | too |
| 02:29.50 | Arrowmaster | fresh install would run X on boot |
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| 02:30.06 | sam113101 | well I didn't install any DE |
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| 02:31.04 | Arrowmaster | what gfx card do you have? |
| 02:31.20 | sam113101 | command to know it, please |
| 02:31.38 | sam113101 | it is ati readonhd |
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| 02:32.58 | sam113101 | how can I know the exact model |
| 02:33.03 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 02:33.27 | moldovean | lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 02:33.51 | moldovean | sam113101, but why no DE ? |
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| 02:35.43 | sam113101 | don't have lspci |
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| 02:36.30 | moldovean | pciutils |
| 02:36.42 | moldovean | sam113101, aptitude install xorg xinit openbox |
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| 02:37.23 | moldovean | will get you a light windowing system .. |
| 02:38.54 | sam113101 | install xinit did nothing |
| 02:39.07 | sam113101 | when I type startx my two monitors shut down |
| 02:39.28 | sam113101 | I should read the logs |
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| 02:40.06 | sam113101 | which system is more lightweigth, arch or debian |
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| 02:40.36 | moldovean | debian |
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| 02:41.36 | zkoo | sam113101: either can be lightweight |
| 02:42.07 | zkoo | sam113101: either can be heavyweight, neither is inherently light nor heavy |
| 02:43.21 | e-future | Are there GNU/Linux-related groups that do voicechat? Like a channel on Teamspeak? Text chat is good but after so long in the computer I'm starting to lose interpersonal talking skills. |
| 02:44.17 | sam113101 | AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable |
| 02:44.28 | sam113101 | I don't know if that is the problem |
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| 02:44.52 | moldovean | !AIGLX |
| 02:44.53 | dpkg | i guess aiglx is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Fucks up responsiveness badly with proprietary nvidia drivers ( Under load ). Don't use it if you want to get work done. ... |
| 02:44.54 | jmarsden | e-future: Get up, walk away from the keyboard, find a real person and talk to them for a while! |
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| 02:45.14 | eskaypey | good day all |
| 02:45.25 | eskaypey | anyway happen to use Gozerbot + jabber? |
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| 02:46.42 | sam113101 | hmmmm, I do I don't use it, lawl |
| 02:46.48 | zkoo | sam113101: if X is starting and your monitors go blank, its probably that X is trying to use a resolutions your monitors cannot display. The log (or running "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr" in a shell) would tell you what resolution its using |
| 02:46.53 | sam113101 | it was there when I installed X.Org |
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| 02:47.30 | moldovean | sam113101, which X.Org ? |
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| 02:47.55 | sam113101 | Can't open display :0 |
| 02:48.41 | moldovean | !install x |
| 02:48.41 | dpkg | To install X in Debian Etch or later: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To reconfigure your X server, ask me about <drxx>. |
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| 02:53.04 | sam113101 | mol, I did that |
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| 02:53.48 | moldovean | and AIGLX come from ? |
| 02:54.04 | sam113101 | I just typed install xorg and it was there |
| 02:54.08 | zebradog | moldovean, aiglx, like that beri beri beri graphix, sounds like that beriosity |
| 02:54.24 | zebradog | !aiglx |
| 02:54.24 | dpkg | aiglx is probably an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Fucks up responsiveness badly with proprietary nvidia drivers ( Under load ). Don't use it if you want to get work done. ... |
| 02:54.46 | sam113101 | so ? |
| 02:54.50 | moldovean | zebradog, i just said about !aiglx |
| 02:54.56 | sam113101 | aptitude remove aiglx ? |
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| 02:55.21 | zkoo | sam113101: ignore aiglx, its not related to your problem. put your xorg logs where we can see them |
| 02:55.46 | sam113101 | okay, how can I do that |
| 02:55.59 | sam113101 | I could install openssh and take that log file |
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| 02:56.20 | zkoo | sam113101: you could put it on pastebin.com or something |
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| 02:56.28 | sam113101 | well |
| 02:56.38 | sam113101 | I don't have any graphical interface |
| 02:56.40 | sam113101 | how can I |
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| 02:57.11 | civillian | !pastebinit |
| 02:57.11 | dpkg | [pastebinit] a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". In lenny, use "pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net", because it's broken for most other sites (#572728). |
| 02:57.53 | zebradog | sam113101, how can you what? install a desktop? |
| 02:58.10 | zebradog | !desktop |
| 02:58.10 | dpkg | [desktop] see http://xwinman.org/ |
| 02:58.31 | zebradog | says choose your desktop destiny! |
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| 03:02.08 | sam113101 | it tells me http://pastebin.com |
| 03:02.13 | sam113101 | lol |
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| 03:03.13 | moldovean | sam113101, pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 03:03.39 | sam113101 | do I paste the conf or the log |
| 03:04.02 | moldovean | both .. |
| 03:04.05 | zkoo | sam113101: the log. if you have a xorg.conf, consider trying startx without it |
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| 03:05.25 | sam113101 | it prints me a traceback |
| 03:05.29 | acu_ | can anyone tell me what version of kernel is in sid ? |
| 03:05.46 | moldovean | , kernels |
| 03:05.46 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-17); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-24); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 03:06.42 | acu_ | I need support for usb 3.0 the latest stable kernel is 2.6.34-1 so it seem it will do it |
| 03:07.18 | zebradog | acu_, usb 3 hardware you've got alreadfy? holy douche you clean it up too fast! |
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| 03:07.27 | zebradog | thinks usb3 is the way to go |
| 03:07.29 | acu_ | Let's go experimental :) |
| 03:07.48 | sam113101 | pastebinit prints me a traceback |
| 03:08.14 | acu_ | zebradog: I have not yet the hardware - I have PCIe USB 3.0 cards - and they are not working in debian - that is all - I will still use usb 2.0 devices |
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| 03:08.38 | acu_ | I mean I will attach the usb 2.0 devices |
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| 03:09.27 | moldovean | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.52 | zkoo | he probably doesn't have an xorg.conf |
| 03:09.53 | moldovean | sam113101, use exactly thet command ^^ |
| 03:10.22 | sam113101 | http://yourpaste.net/5772 |
| 03:11.39 | zkoo | sam113101: can you do the same with /var/log/Xorg.1.log |
| 03:11.41 | zkoo | err |
| 03:11.43 | zkoo | Xorg.0.log |
| 03:11.59 | sam113101 | this is what I tried before, it gave me a traceback |
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| 03:13.29 | sam113101 | could I pastebinit the result of the failing pastebinit command, haha |
| 03:15.14 | moldovean | ls /var/log/ | grep Xorg |
| 03:15.38 | sam113101 | the file is there |
| 03:15.46 | sam113101 | I even opened it with nano |
| 03:15.51 | moldovean | which one ? |
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| 03:16.02 | sam113101 | then I told you about the aiglx line |
| 03:16.02 | zkoo | sam113101: can you just upload it with a browser to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 03:16.12 | zkoo | sam113101: you want to look for lines starting with (E) |
| 03:16.23 | sam113101 | ok |
| 03:16.23 | zkoo | err (EE) |
| 03:16.44 | sam113101 | here I go |
| 03:17.11 | moldovean | aiglx is a proprietary driver , so not in debian |
| 03:17.27 | zkoo | aiglx is built into xorg in debian |
| 03:17.32 | zebradog | lol |
| 03:17.40 | zkoo | and its not proprietary |
| 03:17.51 | moldovean | zkoo, ok |
| 03:17.59 | zebradog | proprietary driver? lol |
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| 03:18.17 | moldovean | zebradog, yes as nvidia .. |
| 03:18.21 | zebradog | moldovean, if you don't know, no need to sound newbiedouche |
| 03:18.33 | zebradog | well thats nvidia driver.. |
| 03:18.33 | sam113101 | no EE line |
| 03:18.39 | sam113101 | one WW line |
| 03:18.44 | zkoo | moldovean: nothing to do with nvidia |
| 03:18.48 | sam113101 | it means warning I think |
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| 03:18.57 | sam113101 | from what I've read |
| 03:19.04 | moldovean | paste it |
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| 03:19.46 | KBentley57 | Anyone familiar with LTSP? |
| 03:20.15 | sam113101 | directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist |
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| 03:20.36 | zkoo | sam113101: see what resolution it was using and if that is one supported by your monitor(s) |
| 03:20.53 | zkoo | sam113101: if it was a font problem it wouldn't get so far as to do anything with your monitors |
| 03:20.58 | zebradog | KBentley57, i've heard of it.. it's pretty good shit.. reminds me of pxelinux |
| 03:21.34 | sam113101 | no device specified for screen "default screen" |
| 03:22.34 | KBentley57 | I have the system up and running fine, but I'm not sure how to add software to the ltsp image that gets deployed |
| 03:22.42 | zkoo | sam113101: i'd recommend trying without an xorg.conf at all, or I'd try generating an xorg.conf by running "X -configure" |
| 03:23.06 | acu_ | Ok, I tried to go to experimental but I cannot see the stable kernel of linux |
| 03:23.11 | KBentley57 | I thought about chroot to /opt/ltsp/i386 and using dpkg to install deb packages |
| 03:23.25 | acu_ | 2.6.34-1 |
| 03:23.40 | zkoo | sam113101: can you upload the Xorg.0.log with a web browser to paste.debian.net? |
| 03:24.49 | sam113101 | I tried the new conf file, same thing happened |
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| 03:25.43 | zebradog | sam113101, lol |
| 03:26.03 | zkoo | sam113101: the one generated from X -configure ? |
| 03:26.09 | sam113101 | yes |
| 03:26.32 | zebradog | sam113101, still with that keyboard shit? |
| 03:26.53 | sam113101 | what do you mean |
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| 03:30.29 | craigevil | acu_: looks like 2.6.34 was removed, now experimental has linux-image-2.6.35-rc5-686 |
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| 03:34.24 | sam113101 | http://pastebin.com/Md6WW5iy |
| 03:34.30 | sam113101 | here is my log file |
| 03:37.32 | acu_ | craigangel: I thought you went to work or sleep ? |
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| 03:38.15 | acu_ | craigevil: but I cannot upgrade to experimental to squeeze |
| 03:38.21 | acu_ | kind of strange |
| 03:38.52 | acu_ | from squeeze to experimental |
| 03:39.12 | craigevil | acu_: what kernel do you want? whats wrong with 2.6.32-5? |
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| 03:39.15 | acu_ | I would take 2.6.35. |
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| 03:40.08 | zkoo | sam113101: it chose to use the vesa driver, so your radeon card must not be supported by the ati drivers in lenny |
| 03:40.12 | zkoo | but I don't really see a problem |
| 03:40.19 | zkoo | sam113101: what exactly happens when you startx? |
| 03:40.42 | acu_ | craigevil: I have some pciE usb cards - and they are not working - in squeeze - the USB cards are 3.0 and though I want to atach usb 2.0 devices - whatever I attach - nothing is seen |
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| 03:41.39 | acu_ | so I have learned that I need to compile my own kernel - and I do not want to get too smart - I am trying to accomplish something useful |
| 03:42.56 | craigevil | acu_: you can use the liquorix kernel, it is a 3rd party kernel, its works great, 2.6.34-1.dmz.2-liquorix-686 |
| 03:43.29 | acu_ | craigevil: how would I install it ? |
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| 03:44.14 | craigevil | acu_: liquorix.net if you have any issues goto #smxi on irc.oftc.net |
| 03:44.46 | sam113101 | my two monitors stop receiving any signal |
| 03:45.17 | acu_ | whao - that sounds like fun :) |
| 03:45.19 | zkoo | sam113101: and then does X quit, or does X continue to run until you kill it? |
| 03:45.42 | sam113101 | well wait |
| 03:45.46 | acu_ | craigevil: let's rock and roll - crash or get fame and money |
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| 03:45.51 | sam113101 | another interesting thing |
| 03:46.18 | sam113101 | well no nevermind |
| 03:46.22 | sam113101 | how do I know |
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| 03:46.43 | craigevil | acu_: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=45151&hilit=liquorix |
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| 03:48.18 | zkoo | sam113101: so you startx. your monitors go blank, then what. they continue to stay black (or off or whatever) until what? until you kill x? until you reboot? do they then go back to a vt? |
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| 03:49.59 | acu_ | craigevil: seems straight forward - thanks again |
| 03:50.00 | s3a | what's the difference between mount and mount --bind? |
| 03:50.26 | rodjek | is it possible to have a preseeded debian installer ignore the hostname it gets from dhcp and prompt for one instead? |
| 03:50.28 | acu_ | craigevil: one more question - so I need to replace the squeeze repository wit liquorix |
| 03:50.30 | zkoo | s3a: --bind is to overlay one directory on another |
| 03:50.49 | craigevil | acu_: no just add the new repo to your sources.list |
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| 03:51.04 | s3a | zkoo, ya but what is the regular mount? |
| 03:51.08 | acu_ | craigevil, thanks |
| 03:52.30 | s3a | zkoo, the regular mount takes a file and uncompresses it (for example an iso) and then shoves it in another place as --bind would? |
| 03:52.31 | zkoo | s3a: mount without --bind is to mount a filesystem to a directory. with --bind is to mount a directory from an already mounted filesystem to another location |
| 03:52.53 | s3a | zkoo, is iso considered to be a filesystem? |
| 03:52.56 | zkoo | yes |
| 03:53.11 | zkoo | the iso9660 filesystem |
| 03:53.27 | s3a | zkoo, ok thanks, your explanation was great :) |
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| 03:54.07 | zkoo | :) |
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| 03:58.26 | rares | is there a way to amplify the volume on gstreamer |
| 03:59.12 | acu_ | craigevil, pray for me - I am getting liquorix :) |
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| 04:09.29 | sam113101 | vt ? |
| 04:09.41 | sam113101 | how do I kill X |
| 04:09.44 | sam113101 | I will try |
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| 04:11.56 | zkoo | sam113101: i'd not recommend killing x, but to switch back to a vt with "ctrl-alt-f2" (or f1, f3, etc) logging in and running "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr" to see what mode you are running in and perhaps use xrandr to try a different video mode |
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| 04:13.48 | sam113101 | I can't change to a vt, no signal is sent to the monitors |
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| 04:14.25 | s3a | does anyone have any idea if netbeans-ide will be added to squeeze? |
| 04:14.27 | zebradog | sam113101, keyboard problems again? lol |
| 04:14.38 | zebradog | laughs |
| 04:14.57 | zkoo | sam113101: you hit "ctrl-alt-f1" or "ctrl-alt-f2" and you still don't get a signal to the monitors? |
| 04:15.29 | sam113101 | no |
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| 04:15.44 | zebradog | s3a, it's in contrib afaik in lenny, for squeeze i have no clue |
| 04:15.52 | sam113101 | nothing |
| 04:16.05 | zebradog | sam113101, lol |
| 04:16.10 | zkoo | sam113101: does ctrl-alt-backspace kill X? |
| 04:16.14 | zebradog | sam113101, same problem half an hour ago |
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| 04:16.21 | sam113101 | haha yeah |
| 04:16.25 | zkoo | sam113101: can you log into the box with ssh? |
| 04:16.33 | zebradog | sam113101, you such a douche :) |
| 04:16.36 | zebradog | just kiddin |
| 04:16.38 | s3a | zebradog, im using it as we speak in lenny so i know ;) but i meant because they have awaiting licensing issues but im not a lawyer or anything but it seems the newer versions might be good to add? |
| 04:16.41 | sam113101 | yeah it kills it |
| 04:16.43 | darkex | any way to grep through an entire directory without entering every single file in the dir? |
| 04:17.04 | zkoo | darkex: grep pattern * |
| 04:17.18 | zebradog | s3a, well even if it weren't included, it'd still be possible to get it and run it on squeeze somehow |
| 04:17.29 | darkex | zkoo: um elaborate... |
| 04:17.31 | zebradog | s3a, i haven't looked at its license either.. |
| 04:17.51 | zebradog | darkex, grep -R |
| 04:17.53 | zkoo | darkex: use * as a filename, your shell will replace the * with every file in the directory |
| 04:17.56 | s3a | zebradog, ya but i prefer if everything is in the repositories |
| 04:18.39 | darkex | ah cool |
| 04:19.12 | zebradog | darkex, what you searching, /etc? |
| 04:19.16 | sam113101 | X is dead |
| 04:19.19 | sam113101 | I killed it |
| 04:19.20 | darkex | nah its ok now |
| 04:19.23 | zkoo | sam113101: how did you kill it? |
| 04:19.31 | sam113101 | your shortcut |
| 04:19.37 | sam113101 | ctrl alt backspace |
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| 04:21.27 | sam113101 | (WW) VESA(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xd0000000, 0x1000000) |
| 04:21.43 | sam113101 | I don't know if that helps |
| 04:22.49 | zkoo | sam113101: no, i really still believe that your X is working fine just at the wrong resolution |
| 04:23.04 | zkoo | the fact that you couldn't switch to a vt is strange, and is perhaps a keyboard problem |
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| 04:23.37 | MrBartSimpson | sam113101, gosh wtf are you trying to fix? |
| 04:23.42 | sam113101 | it prints something about keyboards too |
| 04:23.59 | zkoo | sam113101: also note that the ati drivers don't support your card, which isn't ideal. you are using the very generic "vesa" driver instead of an ati specific driver |
| 04:24.04 | sam113101 | when I run X, my two monitors receive no signal |
| 04:24.39 | sam113101 | how can I know the resolution I use |
| 04:25.17 | zkoo | with xrandr or xdpyinfo |
| 04:25.32 | sam113101 | oh yeah, I can go to a different vt using another keyboard |
| 04:26.13 | zkoo | sam113101: pastebin the output of "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -q" |
| 04:26.37 | sam113101 | in another vt ? |
| 04:26.44 | sam113101 | or do I need to kill X |
| 04:26.53 | zkoo | you need X to be running when you run that command |
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| 04:30.05 | Raggs | hi, how do i know if i should use amd64 or ia64 for install? |
| 04:30.37 | sam113101 | how can I pastebin the result of that command |
| 04:31.07 | sam113101 | what is your processor |
| 04:31.16 | zkoo | Raggs: amd64. ia64 is for itanium |
| 04:31.22 | Raggs | sam intel dual core |
| 04:31.27 | zkoo | Raggs: amd64 |
| 04:31.31 | sam113101 | yeah |
| 04:31.32 | Raggs | ty |
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| 04:32.32 | sam113101 | how can I pastebin the result of that command |
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| 04:37.09 | Buntfu | anyone in here ever sell any linux hardware or systems? |
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| 04:40.57 | zkoo | sam113101: you seem to have managed to get a file onto a paste site previously. "command > filename" would put the output of the command into "filename" |
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| 04:47.18 | sam113101 | http://yourpaste.net/5773 |
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| 04:51.15 | zkoo | sam113101: try "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -s 1024x768" (or any mode you know your monitors support), then switch back to x with "ctrl-alt-f7" |
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| 04:56.49 | twp | what is the default debian root password? |
| 04:57.07 | DanDare | twp, the one you seted at install moment |
| 04:57.22 | twp | ah ok i thought that was for the user i created |
| 04:57.23 | twp | thanks |
| 04:57.29 | DanDare | np |
| 04:57.48 | DanDare | twp, in installation proccess it asks for a secondary user/password also |
| 04:58.03 | DanDare | most probably you seted two passwords |
| 04:58.20 | twp | DanDare: perhaps i entered the same password for both, in anyways it worked, so thanks again. |
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| 05:14.56 | docgnome | thanks |
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| 05:29.06 | sam113101 | Size 1024x768 not found in available modes |
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| 05:40.22 | sam113101 | Size 1024x768 not found in available modes |
| 05:40.49 | zebradog | sam113101, give it up |
| 05:40.51 | zebradog | lol |
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| 05:44.15 | rss | hi, I had installed virtualbox and win XP on it, now I removed XP, the space is not getting freed |
| 05:44.28 | obsidieth | hmm. trailed off there |
| 05:44.36 | obsidieth | thats being reset, but i think its just the way this box is virtualized |
| 05:44.39 | obsidieth | trying the sysctl method |
| 05:44.48 | rss | can you tell where it keeps the files, so that I can delete those XP's files? |
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| 05:46.21 | zebradog | rss, hahahaha |
| 05:46.38 | zebradog | rss, you think we want to help you with winblzoe? NEVER.. NEVER mwahahahaah |
| 05:46.44 | rss | ok, mea culpa, saw there is something called virtual media manager |
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| 05:46.52 | rss | deleted that "partition" |
| 05:47.06 | rss | zebradog: dude, this ain't about winblows |
| 05:47.31 | zebradog | rss, try delete the virtual HD |
| 05:47.46 | Deathvalley122 | lol |
| 05:47.47 | rss | did that now, it worked, ty :D |
| 05:47.52 | zebradog | rss, douche |
| 05:48.13 | rss | to each his own |
| 05:48.16 | rss | same to you |
| 05:48.45 | zebradog | rss, sorry you talk to your butt brains.. maybe you should pour a glass of cold water on your head.. |
| 05:49.13 | rss | what's this? it looks DALnet in 90s :D |
| 05:49.30 | zebradog | rss, you weird |
| 05:49.36 | zebradog | rss, you sure you not on meds? |
| 05:49.59 | zebradog | rss, wrong channel for windows XP |
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| 05:50.35 | rss | zebradog: get a rabies shot yourself |
| 05:50.58 | rss | CTCP VERSION reply from zebradog: mIRC v6.35 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
| 05:51.03 | rss | I rest my case |
| 05:51.04 | Buntfu | any system builders in here? |
| 05:51.19 | zebradog | rss, multiple systems here.. |
| 05:51.31 | zebradog | rss, i rest my case on a corporates system's case. |
| 05:51.38 | rss | great, and you are cursed with windows? :D |
| 05:51.47 | zebradog | rss, wrong channel |
| 05:51.56 | rss | ok, quit it |
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| 05:52.15 | Deathvalley122 | try #windows |
| 05:52.16 | zebradog | rss, you want a snapshot? gimme a break.. i use hackintosh systems.. |
| 05:52.22 | zebradog | rss, you know nothing |
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| 05:52.58 | rss | sigh, oh #debian what did you sin to get these losers? :( |
| 05:52.58 | s3a | how do i figure out what device label (is that the proper term?) an external flash drive or hard drive is? for example /dev/sda1 |
| 05:53.03 | s3a | using the terminal |
| 05:53.12 | rss | use dmesg |
| 05:53.19 | rss | after you plug in that device |
| 05:53.27 | rss | do dmesg |tail |
| 05:53.29 | zebradog | go delete more virtual HD's with Windows XP. |
| 05:53.38 | Deathvalley122 | rss this is not the place to get help on winblows |
| 05:53.47 | zebradog | -_- |
| 05:53.48 | rss | redundant question, scroll up |
| 05:53.55 | zebradog | lol |
| 05:54.03 | rss | idiots, it was a about virtualbox |
| 05:54.07 | zebradog | i even offered to help and was kind enough |
| 05:54.10 | Deathvalley122 | rss |
| 05:54.14 | s3a | rss, isn't there a nicer looking way? |
| 05:54.16 | Deathvalley122 | #virtualbox |
| 05:54.17 | zebradog | asking such a stupid question in the first place |
| 05:54.22 | Deathvalley122 | kthx bai |
| 05:54.35 | zebradog | says duh on free space |
| 05:54.43 | zebradog | takes nap |
| 05:54.55 | s3a | and it does work but i only noticed because it agrees with gparted |
| 05:55.05 | rss | s3a: that's the only way I know |
| 05:55.19 | s3a | rss, ok so in that case, what does |tail do? |
| 05:55.35 | rss | it shows you the latest part of the demsg |
| 05:55.38 | rss | dmesg |
| 05:55.51 | rss | only that, a less would show you full |
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| 05:57.07 | s3a | rss, one thing that REALLY annoys me is that terminals don't show everything if there is "too much" text like if you scroll all the way up; it's not the beginning of the file or whatever that you want to view, is there a way to make it show it all? |
| 05:57.25 | s3a | rss, and would dmesg |head do the opposite of dmesg |tail ? |
| 05:57.29 | rss | s3a: there might be tools for that, google for that |
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| 05:57.36 | peeps | so, my top and bottom gnome-panels just disappeared. i tried re-running gnome-panel but it says an instance in already running. should I just kill it? |
| 05:58.01 | s3a | rss, ok i will when im not super tired, but am I right about the |head vs |tail thing |
| 05:58.05 | vsmatck | peeps, try "killall gnome-panel" |
| 05:58.34 | rss | s3a: yes |
| 05:58.35 | craigevil | s3a: change how many lines the terminal you are using has for scrollback |
| 05:58.40 | peeps | vsmatck, ah, yeah that did it. nice that it restarts automatically |
| 05:58.51 | rss | s3a: it shows the initial lines of dmesg |
| 05:58.55 | peeps | now, i wonder why it did that in the first place.. |
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| 05:59.18 | s3a | craigevil, how do you do that? |
| 05:59.38 | craigevil | s3a: depends on which terminal you are using |
| 05:59.44 | s3a | craigevil, GNOME |
| 05:59.59 | s3a | or is that not sufficient info? |
| 06:00.00 | DogBoy | gnome-terminal you mean |
| 06:00.12 | zebradog | laughs at prentendable guruness of dmessengers |
| 06:00.16 | s3a | DogBoy, ya well i didn't know what it was called exactly so thanks :) |
| 06:00.29 | craigevil | s3a: never ran gnome, it should be in the preferences some where |
| 06:00.30 | DogBoy | yea I noticed you I chimed in and you're welcome |
| 06:00.50 | s3a | craigevil, you are not aware of a terminal command that changes that? |
| 06:00.54 | rss | zebradog: bark in if anyone's wrong here, correct it |
| 06:01.14 | zebradog | lol.. i wasn't even talking to rss.. what's his problem? lol |
| 06:01.28 | zebradog | -_- |
| 06:01.34 | rss | replying to your univeral soliloquy |
| 06:02.16 | s3a | will iceweasel 3.6 be in squeeze because i really want that crash proofness |
| 06:02.48 | zebradog | s3a, check out google chrome latest, supposedly it has flash builtin |
| 06:02.55 | s3a | craigevil, found it |
| 06:02.59 | zebradog | s3a, flash is the primary crasher among browsers |
| 06:03.16 | s3a | zebradog, ya chromium has potential but i dont want to ditch iceweasel |
| 06:03.26 | s3a | zebradog, o wait built in |
| 06:03.36 | s3a | zebradog, as in no flashplugin-nonfree or gnash needed? |
| 06:03.43 | zebradog | s3a, seems that android is going for flash in its Oses |
| 06:04.03 | zebradog | s3a, a wild guess of why they'd invest in this builtin code |
| 06:04.17 | s3a | Oses? |
| 06:04.17 | rss | if you care so much even the latest firefox has that, it even gives you an option of closing only that crashed tab |
| 06:04.18 | EmleyMoor | Never mind flash, it's moonlight that's giving me trouble |
| 06:04.26 | zebradog | s3a, google's android Os |
| 06:04.35 | zebradog | (yes i know its open source) |
| 06:04.41 | simonrvn | OS* |
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| 06:06.58 | Buntfu | anyway i just wanted to give the hardware / system builders here a heads up about a site i've been building for quite a long time now... so I was looking for some interested peeps |
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| 06:07.44 | nsadmin | Buntfu: ahh. so this is a marketing effort... |
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| 06:08.46 | Buntfu | nsadmin, nah i never come in here i've just reached a point where the site is as done as i've ever had it and wanted to give a heads up about it |
| 06:09.30 | craigevil | s3a: you can always install a newer version of iceweasel in your /home see http://glandium.org/blog/?p=1032 |
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| 06:12.12 | s3a | craigevil, iceweasel will re-become firefox now?? mozilla actually made the logos free? |
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| 06:31.12 | eagles0513875 | hey guys how can i check to make sure an initrd is configured right |
| 06:31.37 | lindi- | eagles0513875: right in what sense? |
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| 06:32.09 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: just had to get server rebooting on the original kernel but when i booted into the xen kernel i got 13 : Invalid or unsupported executable format |
| 06:32.10 | eagles0513875 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:32.17 | eagles0513875 | thats an error 13 that i get |
| 06:32.36 | eagles0513875 | humm |
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| 06:32.43 | eagles0513875 | thats odd the xen kernel didnt get installed O_o |
| 06:33.05 | lindi- | eagles0513875: hmm, what has that to do with initrd? |
| 06:33.30 | eagles0513875 | isnt initrd the kernel image lindi- |
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| 06:33.34 | lindi- | eagles0513875: no |
| 06:33.41 | Hibchibbler | I need to auto load a kernel module on bootup. It says to add an entry to /etc/modules. I'm wondering where the default path is, and how to add and/or change it? |
| 06:33.53 | Hibchibbler | default path to where the ko files are. |
| 06:34.13 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: give me a few i might have fixed it |
| 06:34.32 | lindi- | eagles0513875: what linux version is it? |
| 06:34.38 | eagles0513875 | debian lenny |
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| 06:34.46 | lindi- | eagles0513875: but it has multiple versions |
| 06:34.58 | eagles0513875 | the xen kernel is whats in the repos 2.6.26-1 |
| 06:35.03 | eagles0513875 | and its 64bit |
| 06:35.53 | lindi- | eagles0513875: I don't see 2.6.26-1 |
| 06:36.05 | lindi- | eagles0513875: only 2.6.26-24 |
| 06:36.13 | eagles0513875 | xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 - XEN system with Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64 |
| 06:36.13 | eagles0513875 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.56 | niklaswe | hello everyone! |
| 06:36.57 | Deathvalley122 | wait eagles0513875 |
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| 06:37.00 | Deathvalley122 | why amd? |
| 06:37.03 | niklaswe | how are you guys! |
| 06:37.04 | niklaswe | ? |
| 06:37.07 | Deathvalley122 | we have intel |
| 06:37.09 | Deathvalley122 | O.o |
| 06:37.14 | eagles0513875 | Deathvalley122: doesnt matter it just means its 64bit |
| 06:37.30 | Deathvalley122 | eagles0513875: |
| 06:37.37 | Deathvalley122 | no response from the server again |
| 06:37.39 | lindi- | eagles0513875: that is just a meta package 'This package depends on the binary Linux image and hypervisors.' |
| 06:37.46 | lindi- | eagles0513875: the real linux package is what matters |
| 06:37.56 | eagles0513875 | goes looking for xen documentation on debian wiki |
| 06:38.09 | eagles0513875 | Deathvalley122: request reboot onto non xen kernel |
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| 06:38.46 | lindi- | eagles0513875: I think you have linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 but you should be using linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 |
| 06:39.04 | the-dude | linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 is bad :( |
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| 06:39.29 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: there is no -2 |
| 06:39.31 | eagles0513875 | in repos |
| 06:40.06 | lindi- | eagles0513875: there is. http://packages.debian.org/lenny/linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 |
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| 06:40.30 | lindi- | the-dude: really? at least the binary package has no bugs |
| 06:41.07 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: the package i linked above is that just a meta package? |
| 06:41.20 | the-dude | lindi-: I know severals friends who suffer the same issues |
| 06:41.31 | lindi- | eagles0513875: description of xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 is quite clear |
| 06:41.37 | lindi- | the-dude: what issues? |
| 06:41.42 | the-dude | linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 is stable linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 |
| 06:41.57 | the-dude | lindi-: it kill's running dumU's |
| 06:42.11 | lindi- | the-dude: where have they reported this? |
| 06:42.34 | Cope | Upon reboot of a squeeze machine, I see no kernels in grub, just the grub> prompt. Have booted into rescue mode from cd... do i need to reinstall a kernel? |
| 06:42.38 | lindi- | the-dude: I'm currently fighting with squeezes linux under xen. my report is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=588509 |
| 06:43.14 | DogBoy | who's winning |
| 06:43.37 | lindi- | DogBoy: severity is serious so the bug is not going to enter squeeze :) |
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| 06:44.00 | DogBoy | I'm installing squeeze on a seagate dockstar |
| 06:44.04 | DogBoy | heh |
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| 06:44.24 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: take a look at this |
| 06:44.30 | eagles0513875 | i think its a bug in the package |
| 06:45.02 | lindi- | eagles0513875: in linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 package? |
| 06:45.22 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: with that xen-system 2.6.26-1 package i have both kernels |
| 06:45.22 | eagles0513875 | but |
| 06:45.27 | eagles0513875 | the -2 is missing the initrd |
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| 06:45.47 | lindi- | eagles0513875: how unclear can you be? ;) |
| 06:45.58 | forrestv | i think there's a bug in a recent debian libsdl1.2 update |
| 06:46.01 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: im pastebinning |
| 06:46.04 | lindi- | eagles0513875: first you said '< eagles0513875> lindi-: there is no -2' |
| 06:46.12 | lindi- | eagles0513875: and now you say you have both kernels |
| 06:46.18 | eagles0513875 | youll see in a moment |
| 06:46.40 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: http://pastebin.com/HjAeq9ak |
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| 06:47.11 | Cope | hrm - reinstalling grub to (hd0) fixed it... wonder what caused the problem |
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| 06:47.53 | lindi- | eagles0513875: ah so you are using debian as dom0? |
| 06:48.10 | eagles0513875 | yes sry wasnt clear there |
| 06:48.14 | eagles0513875 | still waking up where im at |
| 06:48.30 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: is the first listing a legit listing? |
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| 06:48.53 | lindi- | eagles0513875: heh, we just gave up with that and use opensuse as dom0 at the moment. the dom0 patches are not in mainline afaik and debian does not have the manpower to maintain them |
| 06:49.11 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: what do you mean what patches |
| 06:49.14 | eagles0513875 | the patches to the kernel |
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| 06:50.05 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: would it be save to comment out the first kernel listing? |
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| 06:50.43 | lindi- | eagles0513875: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/kernel/dists/lenny/linux-2.6/debian/patches/features/all/xen/#_dists_lenny_linux-2.6_debian_patches_features_all_xen_ |
| 06:51.00 | lindi- | eagles0513875: www.kernel.org does not support dom0 afaik |
| 06:51.08 | lindi- | eagles0513875: so debian added dom0 support as a patch |
| 06:51.23 | lindi- | (somebody please correct my if I'm wrong!) |
| 06:51.27 | lindi- | s/my/me/ |
| 06:51.30 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: i know upstream xen are working on getting xen included in vanilla kernels at some point |
| 06:51.38 | lindi- | eagles0513875: yes, it's been like that for a while |
| 06:51.47 | eagles0513875 | hope something happens soon |
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| 06:51.57 | lindi- | eagles0513875: i'm just saying that debian does not have the manpower to maintain those patches afaik |
| 06:52.20 | eagles0513875 | well i woudl like to contribute but i would need a big time mentor |
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| 06:52.36 | mentor | I'm sorry, I'm only a normal mentor |
| 06:52.41 | eagles0513875 | rofl |
| 06:52.48 | eagles0513875 | mentor: didnt realize someone had that name in here |
| 06:53.17 | mentor | Well, I've only been around a while |
| 06:53.17 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: also is there a xen team in debian |
| 06:54.14 | the-dude | lindi-: see #566012 |
| 06:54.49 | uofm49426 | hey any one tell me how to fix a reboot problem in lenny |
| 06:56.08 | eagles0513875 | uofm49426: what exactly is the issue thats not telling us too much |
| 06:56.21 | the-dude | I doubt xen patches will ever become mainstream(vanilla) |
| 06:56.35 | eagles0513875 | the-dude: i hope they do though |
| 06:56.38 | lindi- | eagles0513875: yes |
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| 06:57.20 | lindi- | the-dude: i'm bit afraid of that yes |
| 06:57.25 | the-dude | eagles0513875: Yeah me too, but I just have doubts about it |
| 06:57.28 | lindi- | the-dude: I guess KVM is the way to go in the future |
| 06:57.40 | eagles0513875 | maybe fore desktop environments |
| 06:57.48 | eagles0513875 | servers i think xen is the way to go |
| 06:58.31 | lindi- | eagles0513875: if it continues to be outside mainline then it is going to be tricky to use |
| 06:58.39 | eagles0513875 | ya |
| 06:58.49 | the-dude | its hard to maintain this way |
| 06:58.54 | eagles0513875 | ya |
| 06:59.28 | uofm49426 | have aspire 5515 ahcl raid drives when i reboot from debian it stops at the bio screen and its like the hard drive is not there |
| 07:00.02 | uofm49426 | only can shutdown |
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| 07:01.44 | uofm49426 | ubuntu dont do it i was thinking lenny isnt reseting right |
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| 07:05.16 | uofm49426 | when i reboot from debian lenny it stops in the middle of the bio load screen then a black screen then a error finding the hard drive shutdown to off start it up its fine |
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| 07:07.16 | uofm49426 | is it a raid problem with debian and i need a driver or module to fix it |
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| 07:07.28 | ali3n0 | hi folks |
| 07:09.11 | ali3n0 | Xen Debian5 guest, I've found this on /var/log/kern.log : http://paste.debian.net/80597/ |
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| 07:10.04 | ali3n0 | any suggestion? |
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| 07:12.28 | jelly-home | ali3n0: does it go away after installing libc6-xen |
| 07:12.43 | jelly-home | ,versions libc6-xen |
| 07:12.44 | judd | libc6-xen -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch10+b1; etch-security: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch10+b1; lenny: 2.7-18lenny4; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny4; sid: 2.11.2-2; squeeze: 2.11.2-2 |
| 07:13.42 | ali3n0 | jelly-home, going to install, tnx |
| 07:13.57 | jelly-home | ali3n0: if it's only ldconfig triggering it, you may ingore it completely unless running ldconfig lots of time is critical to your process |
| 07:14.18 | eagles0513875 | lindi-: fixed my issue |
| 07:14.31 | eagles0513875 | for some reason the 2.6.26-2 kernel doesnt generate an initrd |
| 07:14.33 | eagles0513875 | O_o |
| 07:14.34 | ali3n0 | ok. but to install libc6-xen is safe, right? |
| 07:14.46 | eagles0513875 | so i set grub to use the 2.6.26-1 kernel instead and its working |
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| 07:15.12 | jelly-home | ali3n0: it should be, but I have no xen guest, lenny or other, to check |
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| 07:17.03 | ali3n0 | jelly-home, ok tnx |
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| 07:31.04 | DGnome | Anyone have any bright ideas on why Squeeze (and Ubuntu Server 10.04) fails to report active connections when using keepalived and monitoring with ipvsadm? Would seem like the kernel has problems identifying connections with a state of EST... |
| 07:32.14 | eagles0513875 | hey guys whats the command for me to check if i have raid setup |
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| 07:35.40 | iceroot | eagles0513875: if it is hardware-raid you cant check, if it is softwareraid cat /proc/mdstat |
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| 07:36.05 | DGnome | iceroot && eagles0513875 :: wit correct tools, you can check hw-raid also |
| 07:36.10 | DGnome | with.. |
| 07:36.18 | iceroot | eagles0513875: but he is asking for a general command |
| 07:36.26 | iceroot | DGnome: sorry that was for you |
| 07:36.45 | DGnome | :) |
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| 07:39.11 | Kuba | hey |
| 07:39.22 | danslo | hey |
| 07:39.46 | Kuba | Should I use kernel 2.6.32-trunk-638? |
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| 07:40.38 | jelly-home | Kuba: no |
| 07:40.45 | Kuba | okay |
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| 07:41.17 | eagles0513875 | iceroot: and DGnome i got it thanks though |
| 07:41.38 | jelly-home | !tell Kuba about trunk kernel |
| 07:42.34 | Kuba | Now, if I use trunk kernel the tty is normal, but when I use 2.6.32-5-638 tty is loaded but the resolution/letters/font is very small, actually unreadable, why is that? |
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| 07:42.46 | Kuba | jelly-home: thanks |
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| 07:44.34 | jelly-home | Kuba: this may help: /msg dpkg nofb |
| 07:45.03 | jelly-home | or install and select a larger console font |
| 07:45.28 | Kuba | well, the system is already installed |
| 07:45.55 | jelly-home | yes, and additional packages can be installed or settings changes at any time |
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| 07:47.25 | Kuba | I have already tried setting GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep (or 640x480), it didn't change anything |
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| 07:47.59 | jelly-home | Kuba: it's not grub that sets up the framebuffer, it's the kernel. |
| 07:48.19 | Kuba | mhm |
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| 07:49.39 | jelly-home | Kuba: install console-terminus, and inspect the settings in /etc/default/console-setup. dpkg-reconfigure console-setup may also help choosing the console font |
| 07:50.12 | jelly-home | Kuba: that's if you want to just change the font size but keep the resolution of the framebuffer console |
| 07:50.44 | jelly-home | afk |
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| 08:16.28 | labitinto12345 | hi. easy way to acces to tightvnc like user ? (noroot) thanks |
| 08:18.50 | nsadmin | if it's possible it should be in the docs |
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| 08:28.24 | quiritius | hi, can't figure out how to get flash playing http://www.thedailyshow.com in iceweasel. the site like youtube.com the flash plays OK. it is a 64bit box, squeeze. flashplugin-nonfree installed, |
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| 08:30.57 | e-anima | anyone uses xdebug, apache, mysql, php and experienced a slowdown after enabling xdebug. with slowdown i mean minutes of serving time for a single page |
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| 08:36.24 | Cope | dpkg: tell e-anima about anyone |
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| 08:37.38 | e-anima | xdebug, apache, mysql, php, i experienced a slowdown after enabling xdebug. with slowdown i mean minutes of serving time for a single page or timeout. |
| 08:37.42 | e-anima | like this? |
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| 08:38.01 | e-anima | it describes the problem |
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| 08:40.40 | thursley | Hi, im running lenny 2.6.26-2-amd64. When in X I can't use the "alt+1, alt+2" key combination because it give character like ¡. I tried changing the keyboard layout in xorg.conf (I have us international with euro sign on 5) but this did not help. Im not able to use keyboard shortcuts like the ones for changing windows in irssi. Anyon know how to fix this? |
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| 09:06.49 | Mr_O | hi |
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| 09:10.28 | stayb | hich text distri can you recommend for a web server ? |
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| 09:11.32 | stayb | distribution |
| 09:11.36 | l3on | Hi all... I receive this error: |
| 09:11.50 | l3on | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/Release Unable to find expected entry restricted/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 09:11.57 | l3on | E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 09:11.59 | l3on | using: |
| 09:12.08 | l3on | sudo pbuilder create --basetgz dtn.debian.tgz --distribution lenny --mirror http://ftp.debian.org/debian |
| 09:12.17 | l3on | someone of you know what's wrong? |
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| 09:13.02 | jelly | l3on: where does "restricted" come from? Which debian release and pbuilder package version are you using? |
| 09:13.14 | l3on | jehan: I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 |
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| 09:13.44 | jelly | l3on: you'll probably want to ask that question in #ubuntu, then; we don't know what they change in pbuilder. |
| 09:13.46 | Arrowmaster | !ubuntu |
| 09:13.47 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 09:14.01 | l3on | ok jelly , tnx |
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| 09:15.18 | hareldvd | On my Ubuntu machine, (I know #ubuntu but they #$@#) I can't save photos from my Cannon camera anymore. Any idea? |
| 09:15.38 | jelly | l3on: or specify Debian --components explicitely |
| 09:15.50 | l3on | yeah jelly :) |
| 09:15.54 | jelly | !tell hareldvd about they don't know |
| 09:16.25 | jelly | that's not a very polite factoid |
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| 09:18.18 | Kuba | If I compiled kernel module from sources, is there a way to bring back debian's original one? |
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| 09:20.48 | hareldvd | Kuba, Can't you store the compiled version in /boot and add it to the boot list (grub does that almost automatically) |
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| 09:22.32 | jelly | Kuba: what's the real goal you're trying to accomplish? |
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| 09:23.16 | jelly | hareldvd: /boot/ has nothing to do directly with custom kernel modules |
| 09:23.57 | Kuba | jelly: I have tremendous probles with setting up gigabit ethernet connection with r8169, so I compiled it from sources (realtek website), now I am wondering how to get the original debian's module |
| 09:25.16 | jelly | Kuba: did the vendor module overwrite it or not? If not, just remove the vendor module from /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ and perhaps rerun depmod -a |
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| 09:26.27 | Kuba | jelly: I'm not quite sure whether is has been overwritten |
| 09:27.42 | jelly | Kuba: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -type f -name 'r8169*' |
| 09:28.57 | jelly | Kuba: the vendor might also have something like a make uninstall script |
| 09:29.26 | Kuba | it found only one file r8169.ko |
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| 09:30.17 | Kuba | no uninstall script and looking at the Makefile: there is no uninstall |
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| 09:30.35 | Kuba | But is the original module stored somewhere? |
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| 09:33.26 | jelly | Kuba: it's not, reinstall the kernel package. |
| 09:37.18 | jelly | if the vendor script didn't save it, it's not saved |
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| 09:37.41 | xreal | Can anyone please help me to "decode" bonnie++ output ? ;-) |
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| 09:44.07 | nevyn | !tell xreal about pastebin |
| 09:44.29 | nevyn | xreal: pop it in a pastbin and I can probably help |
| 09:44.36 | Kuba | jelly: ok, thanks |
| 09:44.41 | nevyn | as long as you're not asking about re-write that confuses me still |
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| 09:45.36 | xreal | nevyn: ok |
| 09:46.00 | GuySoft | hey, question - why in the /etc/bash.bashrc there completion part is always commented in Debian? |
| 09:46.14 | xreal | Is this call to bonnie okay? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/238247/ |
| 09:47.06 | jargon- | GuySoft: i was wondering about that too,the other day. |
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| 09:48.33 | abaddon | GuySoft: not sure if because of this, but its enabled in ~/.bashrc |
| 09:48.49 | abaddon | so i guess not to include it twice and let users remove it if they dont want it? |
| 09:49.04 | GuySoft | abaddon, yes , but it means that apt-get and other things are not enabled in root |
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| 09:49.42 | GuySoft | abaddon, I just thought to myself - why? its like the first thing i do when using a new debian/ubuntu system |
| 09:50.44 | abaddon | i think you should tweak /root/.bashrc , its different because its the first account created i guess it copied from a different bashrc |
| 09:51.59 | abaddon | you prob. know of /etc/skel/.bashrc |
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| 09:52.46 | guzu | hello all |
| 09:54.13 | jmad980 | waves |
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| 09:54.32 | guzu | how do i get the xorg sources in debian? |
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| 09:55.08 | nevyn | xreal: umm seems kinda small to me |
| 09:55.24 | jmad980 | I think there is a option such as -s or --source IIRC, or you could look at http://packages.debian.org |
| 09:55.27 | jelly | guzu: /msg dpkg source; /msg dpkg deb-src |
| 09:55.42 | alcy | folks, is there a way to download all packages from a particular repo ? apt-get -d install <> , with only that particular repo listed in the sources.list ? |
| 09:55.47 | jmad980 | or you can ask the inpervious bot |
| 09:56.15 | jmad980 | if I spelt that right I really need some sleep :p |
| 09:56.29 | eviltoaster | hm gnome volume control use wrong sound device and cant see my other one. what to do ? |
| 09:56.30 | abaddon | alcy: i think wget would do it, and theres also apt mirror |
| 09:56.44 | jmad980 | nope. thats good :) |
| 09:57.01 | guzu | jelly, thank you. how can i find what package has the trident driver? |
| 09:57.05 | jmad980 | etherway, gtg computer wants to set my house on fire, flash videos |
| 09:57.06 | Kuba | r8169 with my squeeze box really sucks! ;/ |
| 09:57.06 | abaddon | alcy: apt-cache search apt mirror |
| 09:57.25 | alcy | abaddon: ah right, thanks. :) |
| 09:57.58 | abaddon | try going at the repo url, youll see its just http:// so you can download with wget -r.. depending on what you really want |
| 09:58.53 | alcy | abaddon: that sounds easier, not too many packages in that repo. |
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| 09:59.24 | xreal | nevyn: What exactly? |
| 10:00.40 | nevyn | xreal: what unit are the -r and -s numbers in? |
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| 10:01.01 | ethanol | morning people |
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| 10:03.22 | xreal | nevyn: Megabyte. |
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| 10:03.39 | xreal | [-r ram-size-in-MiB] |
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| 10:18.20 | Zenox | Is it possible to mount and use a software RAID5 array when adding a drive to it (mdadm --grow etc)? |
| 10:18.32 | Zenox | It's reshaping |
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| 10:18.56 | unomi | Hi, how can I stop a booting system just short of trying to mount root? |
| 10:19.08 | unomi | I am trying to boot from a usb, and fstab has a wrong entry |
| 10:19.37 | unomi | I can change the grub bootloading settings, but I don't seem to be able to get ed or anything like that? |
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| 10:22.21 | nevyn | xreal: ok then that seems sane. what's the problem with the output? |
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| 10:24.19 | ali3n0 | Zenox, never did with raid5, but with raid1 i know you can work on the fs while you rebuild the array |
| 10:26.57 | xreal | nevyn: Nothing now. Test is still running. Just wanted to ask, if settings are okay. |
| 10:27.26 | xreal | brb going to lunch |
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| 10:33.06 | nevyn | zerodeux: yes. |
| 10:33.11 | nevyn | bleh Zenox yes |
| 10:33.27 | nevyn | Zenox: do it semi-regularly |
| 10:33.54 | nevyn | Zenox: you can even control how much bandwidth is dedicated to resizing vs actual disk ops |
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| 10:41.20 | oliva | hi there ... anybody has a quick solution for a web file server with debian? |
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| 10:43.01 | Zenox | nevyn: okay, thanks :) |
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| 10:46.51 | abrotman | oliva: webdav ? |
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| 10:48.05 | valtere_ | hello |
| 10:48.25 | valtere_ | backuppc |
| 10:48.26 | valtere_ | i have the problèm |
| 10:48.31 | valtere_ | i have install |
| 10:48.42 | valtere_ | can't i access to web interface |
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| 10:49.05 | valtere_ | os debian lenny |
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| 10:49.47 | valtere_ | please helpme |
| 10:49.54 | berzerka | is there a default/automated way to switch the symlinks between different versions of a library? i have libvtk-5.2 5.4 and 5.6 installed. the symlinks are set to the 5.4 files. (e.g. /usr/lib/libvtkCommon.so -> libvtkCommon.so.5.4). since there are more than 10 vtk libs and i don't want to do it by hand for all of them, is there an automated way to do so? |
| 10:50.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah update-alternatives |
| 10:50.52 | oliva | abrotman: can I use it from the browser? |
| 10:51.02 | berzerka | Arrowmaster: ah of course. i knew this only for different binaries which serve the same purpose. let me see... |
| 10:51.18 | ali3n0 | valtere_, what error message? |
| 10:51.23 | abrotman | oliva: oh, you want a file browser for a web server .. |
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| 10:54.35 | oliva | yes ... abrotman what clients could I use with webdav? |
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| 10:57.00 | abrotman | oliva: do some research about it |
| 10:57.04 | project2501a | hey guys |
| 10:57.41 | project2501a | i got a sb x-fi go, and it has an on-board flash drive. i want to tell gnome to stop mounting *that* and only *that* drive |
| 10:57.49 | project2501a | what do i google for? |
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| 11:00.36 | oliva | abrotman: thanks :) |
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| 11:01.36 | oliva | I would like to reference files on the repository with url in my documents. |
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| 11:11.53 | stayb | how can i remove the desktop environment on debian lenny stable? the standard gui |
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| 11:12.46 | Princem | ä» |
| 11:13.33 | guzu | stayb, i'm a newbie but try aptitude remove gnome-desktop |
| 11:14.08 | mei | stayb: That can be quite a hassle, since it installs many other packages, but try "aptitude purge gnome gnome-core gnome-destop-environment" |
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| 11:14.49 | stayb | ok i see it hasnt install a gui, i thought it would install automatically |
| 11:14.55 | guzu | founds something called desktop-base |
| 11:16.21 | mei | stayb: Not if you ask it to not do it. |
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| 11:17.25 | Kuba | Can I make sure that a NIC with specified MAC address gets previously chosen interface name? |
| 11:17.34 | nevyn | Kuba: yes. |
| 11:17.47 | nevyn | Kuba: you need to use udev to do this. |
| 11:18.07 | Kuba | mhm, I will google it |
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| 11:19.19 | stayb | if i install a new debian lenny, which sources would u all recommend to add? |
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| 11:20.03 | nevyn | stayb: given this is #debian all the sources for debian supported software will be in your sources.list already |
| 11:20.27 | nevyn | that said I find. that debian-multimedia has a useful set of packages... |
| 11:22.07 | stayb | ok |
| 11:22.25 | Arrowmaster | for lenny you might want backports.org but you need to make that decision, dont listen to other people and just blindly add it |
| 11:22.26 | stayb | how can i "activate" my pci lan card to get a dhcp network? |
| 11:22.31 | abrotman | stayb: you want all of X gone ? |
| 11:22.39 | abrotman | !tell stayb about interfaces |
| 11:22.51 | LinkRage | btw someone experienced with darwin streaming? |
| 11:23.01 | nsadmin | !ask |
| 11:23.01 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 11:23.32 | nsadmin | darwin? that's macosx, is it not? |
| 11:23.40 | Kuba | nevyn: should I edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ? or add another file (eg. 71-my-net.rules)? |
| 11:24.01 | Kuba | nevyn: because "# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules" |
| 11:24.09 | nsadmin | stayb: when you say "dhcp network" what exactly do you mean? |
| 11:24.10 | nevyn | hrm |
| 11:24.47 | nevyn | Kuba: if you rename the nic. and then re-run write_net_rules does it update the 70-persistant-net-rules file? |
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| 11:24.51 | LinkRage | nsadmin, I have compiled it on Debian amd64 it works great but I need alternative way to supply stream to it. currently I'm using vlc between icecast2 (ogg) and darwin - results in choppy sound |
| 11:26.05 | nsadmin | as long as you're compiling stuff anyway, maybe you can write a jack driver for it |
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| 11:26.50 | quiritius | hi, can anyone get flash playing on http://www.thedailyshow.com in iceweasel? On a 64bit squeeze. the sites like youtube.com play flash OK. flashplugin-nonfree installed. |
| 11:27.08 | LinkRage | I've notice companies which offer such service (to transcode your ogg radio to aac/3gp) and I'm wondering how they do it. one of these are using darwin acording to nmap |
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| 11:28.41 | LinkRage | nsadmin, hm that's awsome idea but probably I won't be able to do so since I lack programming knowledge. I need to try something else first :( |
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| 11:29.44 | nsadmin | you can always learn |
| 11:29.57 | Kuba | nevyn: I am not sure how this script should be invoked, ie.:"/lib/udev/write_net_rules missing $INTERFACE" |
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| 11:31.24 | Flashtek | ok.. so I'm trying to get lighttpd running on port 80.. system reports it can't as there is the port is already in use.. though netstat -lpnt shows its not.. ideas ?? |
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| 11:33.26 | nsadmin | one thing I will tell you, is it's a long road, and it takes dedication and long hours. remember when you were starting to learn unix and maybe someone told you, "you'll do more reading than you ever thought possible"? |
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| 11:34.13 | Flashtek | nobody ever told me that, but I've learned it and told others.. |
| 11:34.30 | nsadmin | if you were told that, now I'll tell you that not only will you be doing more reading than that, but also more practice and especially more debugging |
| 11:34.34 | abrotman | Flashtek: fuser -n tcp 80 |
| 11:34.49 | Flashtek | abrotman: nothing |
| 11:34.54 | abrotman | then it's open |
| 11:35.16 | Flashtek | Starting web server: lighttpd2010-07-16 12:34:14: (network.c.345) can't bind to port: :: 80 Address already in use |
| 11:35.20 | Flashtek | sure it is.. |
| 11:35.44 | abrotman | can you telnet to it? is it looking at ipv6 maybe? |
| 11:35.47 | Flashtek | like I said, netstat shows nothing on there either |
| 11:35.49 | nsadmin | Flashtek, you know your system... did you put a web server? |
| 11:35.53 | stayb | i installed debian lenny textbased. No i want to activate the pci lan card. ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.5 i tipped. But i dont get a connection. The router is on dhcp and static ip. How can i adjust eth0 to dhcp? |
| 11:36.01 | stayb | Now* |
| 11:36.14 | Kuba | stayb: dhclient3 eth0 |
| 11:36.49 | Flashtek | nsadmin: no, not 'till I'm trying lighty now |
| 11:37.02 | nsadmin | stayb: in /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 11:37.23 | nsadmin | then save the file, exit, and type: ifup eth0 |
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| 11:38.13 | judgen | Hi, i have lost the abillity to run video in full screen in AmiWM, any ideas.. it worked before yesterday. |
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| 11:39.47 | nsadmin | if it worked before yesterday, then you make a list of everything you did yesterday, and look at that list to see if it could have made full-screen video not work |
| 11:40.03 | Flashtek | nods in agreement.. |
| 11:40.47 | nsadmin | so what happens when you telnet localhost 80? |
| 11:40.59 | Flashtek | nsadmin: connection refused |
| 11:41.01 | judgen | Oh i just realized, it is only totem that is unable to run in fullscreen... i have always used vlc... |
| 11:41.09 | stayb | nsadmin, ok so it makes an interval : DCHPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port .. interval .. .- is that normal? then it says: No DHCPOFFERS reveived Now working leases in presisten database - sleeping |
| 11:41.13 | Flashtek | judgen: use vlc then |
| 11:41.22 | Kuba | Is /lib/udev/write_net_rules run every boot time? If not when is it invoked? |
| 11:41.26 | Flashtek | stayb: do you have a DHCP server ? |
| 11:41.31 | nsadmin | so it's not getting to any dhcp servers |
| 11:41.47 | stayb | mh but its still connected on the dhcp router |
| 11:42.10 | nsadmin | ok, try this |
| 11:42.15 | nsadmin | ifdown eth0 |
| 11:42.24 | nsadmin | ifconfig eth0 down |
| 11:42.29 | nsadmin | ifup eth0 |
| 11:42.33 | judgen | Flashtek, exactly my thought... i dont know how totem became the default though |
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| 11:42.57 | stayb | nsadmin, same issue |
| 11:43.31 | nsadmin | maybe eth0 refers to something other than what you have connected to the hub/switch/router |
| 11:43.48 | Flashtek | how many NICs in that system ? |
| 11:43.50 | judgen | Flashtek, Oh yes, i can only run vlc one.. then it cant start again... very odd issue. |
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| 11:44.32 | blahdeblah | Hi. Anyone know how to get update-grub to work in a Xen domU when there's no /dev/xvdX device? Here's the update-grub output: http://debian.pastebin.com/zxydL9bC I've added entries to the device.map for xvdb and xvdb1 to no avail. |
| 11:44.34 | stayb | ok i see the lan card doesnt "blink" |
| 11:44.36 | stayb | leds |
| 11:45.00 | nsadmin | maybe cable problem? |
| 11:45.27 | nsadmin | do you have more than one eth port that you can see on your computer |
| 11:46.52 | stayb | no, but last time it worked on this computer, with debian too, but i forget the way i installed it |
| 11:47.10 | Flashtek | blahdeblah: do you actually have control over the kernel ?? most domU's dont |
| 11:47.12 | nsadmin | ok, |
| 11:47.26 | judgen | stayb, maybe you have a conflict and should balacklist a conflicting module... what ethernet schip are you using? |
| 11:47.31 | nsadmin | ifconfig -a gives you many paragraphs about many interfaces? |
| 11:47.35 | stayb | the card isnt "activated" but this should happen automatically or |
| 11:47.38 | blahdeblah | Flashtek: what do you mean? I'm trying to get this machine to use pygrub instead of booting from the dom0 kernel |
| 11:47.45 | Flashtek | nsadmin: even with all of the network interfaces offline, lighty refuses to bind to port 80.. |
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| 11:48.27 | nsadmin | what user is it being started as? |
| 11:48.40 | Flashtek | blahdeblah: I thought you were using just domU, I've never managed to get pygrub working |
| 11:48.50 | stayb | nsadmin, normal user |
| 11:48.51 | Flashtek | nsadmin: I'm triyng to run it as installed.. |
| 11:49.19 | blahdeblah | Flashtek: I've got pygrub working fine on several domUs but this one is not playing nice. |
| 11:49.23 | nsadmin | if you want port 80 it must be run as root at least initially |
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| 11:50.03 | nsadmin | stayb: what exactly are you running as normal user? |
| 11:50.04 | Flashtek | nsadmin: port 81 works.. |
| 11:50.17 | stayb | i tried it with root to |
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| 11:50.30 | manchot | what's wrong? |
| 11:50.49 | nsadmin | opposite of left |
| 11:51.04 | manchot | Debian itself is great, maybe some one wants to F the channel? |
| 11:52.05 | bolt-work | <? |
| 11:52.37 | nsadmin | stayb: what is the exact text of the command line you running as normal user? |
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| 11:52.55 | stayb | nsadmin, your commands with sudo before |
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| 11:53.04 | nsadmin | oh ok |
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| 11:53.31 | nsadmin | stayb: look at the output of ifconfig -a |
| 11:53.36 | nsadmin | how many paragraphs |
| 11:53.51 | stayb | i remember the first time with this pc, it was the same issue. i added something into a log and then the card was "activated" |
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| 11:54.32 | stayb | 7 |
| 11:54.40 | stayb | could copy it |
| 11:54.57 | nsadmin | ok, for each of these 7 paragraphs, there is an interface name (like lo) |
| 11:55.01 | stayb | but the card leds still dont blink |
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| 11:55.08 | nsadmin | put all the interface names on one line |
| 11:55.13 | stayb | oh sry i mean 2 |
| 11:55.20 | stayb | eth0 and lo |
| 11:55.28 | nsadmin | ok, |
| 11:55.45 | stayb | but eth0 wasnt there before i tipped the first commands u wrote |
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| 11:56.17 | nsadmin | you did type ifconfig -a? |
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| 11:57.26 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 11:57.31 | Flashtek | hi Azrael_- |
| 11:57.39 | nsadmin | stayb: look at the output of ifconfig -a |
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| 11:57.44 | nsadmin | make sure the -a is ther |
| 11:57.55 | nsadmin | still 2 paragraphs? |
| 11:58.01 | stayb | yeah done |
| 11:58.08 | stayb | i copy mom |
| 11:58.25 | Azrael_- | i want to move the first 10 files of a folder. problem: in the filenames are spaces and special chars. how can i do it? head and tail can't cope with \0 als line endings |
| 11:58.31 | unomi | any recommendations on a mobo for a new amd build? |
| 11:58.41 | unomi | (is there a better place to ask) |
| 11:59.21 | nsadmin | there probably is... but you've also not said anythign about the purpose of the machine |
| 11:59.58 | unomi | not much of a gamer, mostly just looking for VM performance |
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| 12:00.11 | nevyn | unomi: lots of memory slots. and io. |
| 12:00.12 | unomi | I was looking at 890gx vs 890fx |
| 12:00.33 | nsadmin | asus is usually close to the best |
| 12:00.44 | Flashtek | one that'll take many physical cpus with many cores on each |
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| 12:00.58 | unomi | I like the gx for decent igfx, and the fx for iommu support |
| 12:01.30 | stayb | nsadmin, yeah still 2 paragraphs on ifconfig -a |
| 12:01.39 | unomi | yeah, I was considering going for an opteron setup.. but I still like the idea of being able to turn it into a consumer item afterwards |
| 12:01.42 | stayb | nsadmin, at first time it was only one: "lo" |
| 12:01.42 | Flashtek | GA-MA770-UD3 is what I have, but thats desktop |
| 12:02.02 | nsadmin | stayb, most likely, that output was just ifconfig |
| 12:02.06 | unomi | honestly I think a phenon II thuban compatible board is more than enough for me atm |
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| 12:02.39 | stayb | mh ok im out of ideas to activate the lan card or else |
| 12:02.49 | unomi | I am upgrading from a p4 3ghz single core, so its all going to be pretty fast in comparison |
| 12:02.50 | Flashtek | Azrael_-: I recall doing similar before.. I seem to recall using a loop |
| 12:02.51 | nsadmin | unomi: but you should consider getting something you can expand greatly without replacing the mobo |
| 12:03.38 | unomi | nsadmin: I agree, thats why the 890 series was pretty interesting. I doubt 6core thuban is the last of the line |
| 12:04.08 | jelly | unomi: ##hardware, theoretically |
| 12:04.41 | nsadmin | they don't support people that often |
| 12:04.46 | daltio | hi guys what are debain OS KPI |
| 12:04.53 | daltio | for CPU , memeory , |
| 12:05.02 | nsadmin | !debain |
| 12:05.02 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The founder of Debian was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 12:05.24 | daltio | CPU Bound (Single User Mode) parameter |
| 12:05.25 | OpenTokix | hehe |
| 12:06.17 | guzu | !debinai |
| 12:06.26 | nsadmin | KPI? Kwatloos Per Inch? |
| 12:06.45 | guzu | !debina |
| 12:06.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debina is debian when you're typing too fast, or see <debain> |
| 12:06.56 | stayb | nsadmin, its an sitecom pci lan card |
| 12:07.16 | nsadmin | ok, let's see what lspci -nn says about it |
| 12:07.18 | stayb | nsadmin, lol it works |
| 12:07.30 | stayb | nsadmin, i changed the pci slot |
| 12:07.31 | nsadmin | hmm?\ |
| 12:07.43 | nsadmin | the other slot was bad? |
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| 12:07.56 | stayb | seemed to be |
| 12:08.06 | stayb | but now i get a yellow desktop :D |
| 12:08.06 | nsadmin | or maybe a little dirty |
| 12:08.15 | stayb | sth is with the mainboard |
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| 12:08.40 | nsadmin | Tie a yellow desktop rount the old oak tree... |
| 12:09.46 | nsadmin | I think you should run memcheck86 on it for about 20 mins |
| 12:10.06 | nsadmin | or is it memtest86 |
| 12:11.14 | stayb | no was the cable ;) |
| 12:11.27 | nsadmin | which cable? |
| 12:11.37 | stayb | vga cable |
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| 12:11.45 | nsadmin | oh ok |
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| 12:12.13 | nsadmin | well it could be also the card and slot were a little dirty |
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| 12:12.35 | stayb | which packages to you recommend to install if the system is new installed? |
| 12:12.45 | stayb | systemtools or sth |
| 12:13.02 | nsadmin | mostly I recommend packages that are not installed already |
| 12:13.06 | nsadmin | but not all of them |
| 12:13.58 | nsadmin | if you install packages that are already installed, it will make more disk access than necessary |
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| 12:15.10 | rares | what about fsf's icecat? |
| 12:15.33 | nsadmin | about fsf's icecast, -what-?! |
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| 12:16.18 | nsadmin | stayb, http://packages.debian.org |
| 12:16.25 | stayb | ok thx |
| 12:16.26 | nsadmin | hit the browse stable |
| 12:16.35 | nsadmin | and just look around |
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| 12:17.46 | rares | icecat is fsf's version of firefox/iceweasel |
| 12:18.34 | rares | will it become fireferret or something? |
| 12:18.45 | nsadmin | snowskunk |
| 12:18.58 | rares | plasmagerbil |
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| 12:21.23 | daltio | nsadmin key performance indicators |
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| 12:23.31 | nsadmin | I'm definitely not the best person to ask... but I'd say lots of ram, lots of expansion for more ram and more cpus, and compare the mobo chipsets for performance, as well as the mobo bus speeds |
| 12:24.02 | nsadmin | and ask pros who build and run the machines used in the purposes you're interested in |
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| 12:24.06 | daltio | no no i am asking is there any rule of thumb |
| 12:24.16 | nsadmin | yep, |
| 12:24.25 | nsadmin | don't put your thumb on the power cord! |
| 12:24.39 | daltio | see when i say i am at out of mem state say at 90% mem usage |
| 12:24.52 | daltio | wht experts suggest |
| 12:25.03 | nsadmin | look at the output of free |
| 12:25.09 | daltio | i am making KPI doc for that i have to write KPI for mem , cpu |
| 12:25.20 | nsadmin | being out of physical ram is not the same as being out of useful ram |
| 12:25.24 | ElllisD | is it normal to see 'Activating swapfile swap...done.' at boot when I use a swap partition? |
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| 12:25.44 | nsadmin | probably |
| 12:26.00 | nsadmin | look at the script that does it and see |
| 12:27.02 | ElllisD | nsadmin: All I know about a swapfile is that pkg dphys-swapfile uses it, & that pkg isnt installed. It's a sheevaplug- I'll look around for how it's boot happens |
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| 12:28.27 | jelly | ElllisD: which debian release? |
| 12:29.00 | jelly | ElllisD: grep swap /etc/fstab ? |
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| 12:29.55 | ElllisD | jelly: squeeze, /sbin/swapon -s says just my usb swap partition's active- I just put it in fstab |
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| 12:30.13 | indraveni | hi all |
| 12:30.28 | indraveni | I am trying to create a custom debian package, |
| 12:30.39 | jelly | ElllisD: mh, I think it's normal for squeeze |
| 12:30.43 | indraveni | i have written small piece of code in the postinst.sh file |
| 12:30.52 | indraveni | after debian package creation, the postinst.sh is not executed |
| 12:31.07 | indraveni | creating deb using the command dpkg-buildpackage -uz- us -sa |
| 12:31.07 | nsadmin | probably it should be called postinst |
| 12:31.22 | indraveni | yeah, its postinst only, typo mistake |
| 12:31.41 | indraveni | creating deb using the command dpkg-buildpackage -uc*- us -sa |
| 12:31.42 | nsadmin | run lintian on it |
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| 12:32.05 | indraveni | no need to use dpkg-buildpackage command? |
| 12:32.23 | nsadmin | you run lintian on the resulting package |
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| 12:32.36 | indraveni | resulting .deb package? |
| 12:32.50 | indraveni | nsadmin: on resulting .deb pacakge? |
| 12:32.56 | nsadmin | yea... there are other kinds of packages?! |
| 12:33.01 | indraveni | just lintian or any options |
| 12:33.34 | nsadmin | well I'd look at man lintian, but I'd say try just lintian file.deb |
| 12:34.13 | indraveni | oh ok |
| 12:34.15 | indraveni | 1 sec |
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| 12:35.03 | nsadmin | lintian might tell you a bunch of stuff that may or may not be relevent to the problem |
| 12:35.07 | indraveni | nsadmin: I just want to clarify one thing, my debian package itself is not having the postinst script in its control.tar.gz file |
| 12:35.22 | indraveni | so how does lintian understand that the postinst should be executed |
| 12:35.50 | nsadmin | why is the postinst not getting into the package? |
| 12:35.53 | jelly | indraveni: lintian is a tool testing for common packaging mistakes |
| 12:36.22 | indraveni | hh |
| 12:36.28 | indraveni | oh ok |
| 12:36.32 | jelly | indraveni: have you read the New Maintainer's Guide? /msg dpkg nmg |
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| 12:37.53 | Kuba | would it be appropriate to create my startup scripts in /usr/local/etc/init.d/ and link them in /etc/init.d ? :) |
| 12:38.03 | stayb | to at a user to sudo , is the command not visudo? |
| 12:38.06 | stayb | add* |
| 12:38.24 | nsadmin | that would be one way yes |
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| 12:38.45 | stayb | but it says command not found |
| 12:38.53 | nsadmin | people must know there ought to be an emacssudo |
| 12:38.58 | stayb | login as root |
| 12:39.29 | nsadmin | wait, that's crazy talk... but there should be a nanosudo |
| 12:39.50 | nsadmin | isn't nano in base? |
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| 12:40.32 | jelly | stayb: make sure /usr/sbin and /sbin directories are in your PATH when you're root |
| 12:41.03 | Kuba | more general question: Should I put my configs in /usr/local/etc and link them (ln -s) in /etc ? :) |
| 12:41.13 | nsadmin | and maybe even /usr/local/sbin, but there's not going to be anything installed by debian there |
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| 12:41.48 | nsadmin | no |
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| 12:41.57 | nsadmin | you should not do that, for the following reason |
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| 12:43.04 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:43.19 | jelly | Kuba: what purpose would that serve? |
| 12:43.22 | Kuba | mhm |
| 12:43.49 | Kuba | Eg. I would like to turn on some iptables rules, somewhere |
| 12:44.21 | Kuba | I know it could be pre-up in interfaces file... |
| 12:44.26 | shecki | hi, i have a problem with my fans after configuring munin and modprobing one module for sensors. the fans now run on full speed all the time. |
| 12:44.27 | nsadmin | why not put that in /etc? |
| 12:44.41 | shecki | i also tried pwmconfig, but "There are no usable PWM outputs." |
| 12:45.15 | Kuba | nsadmin: Well, I thought this would be more portable, and such scripts are easier to find when you are installing new system |
| 12:45.35 | Kuba | just to separate default debian's config with those created by myself |
| 12:46.09 | nsadmin | you could -probably- create something like /etc/myowndirimadebymyself |
| 12:46.18 | Kuba | yep |
| 12:46.41 | nsadmin | or /etc/init.d/myscropt.local |
| 12:47.03 | Kuba | like I created /etc/hosts.dnsmasq with some dhcp rules for dnsmasq |
| 12:47.30 | nsadmin | I've created things like /etc/init.d/local-postgresql-8.4 |
| 12:47.37 | nsadmin | when I compiled my own pg |
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| 12:48.04 | Kuba | but what if I wanted to reinstall the system it is hard to find "local" (handmade ;p) configs |
| 12:48.33 | nsadmin | that's why you need to be the guy that's different... |
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| 12:48.50 | nsadmin | you're the one who DOES keep an installation journal |
| 12:49.18 | Kuba | ehh, I don't want to be different, I'm just revising some basic debian (linux) concepts |
| 12:49.55 | guzu | wonders why lxde-desktop requires openoffice samba rpm etc |
| 12:50.02 | nsadmin | I'm telling ya, you (and everyone probably) should keep an install journal and keep it up to data |
| 12:50.10 | nsadmin | date |
| 12:50.43 | jelly | guzu: *-desktop are task metapackages, meant to provide a completish environment |
| 12:50.44 | Kuba | mhm |
| 12:50.55 | indraveni | nsadmin: atutor is not showing me any message about why the postinst is not used |
| 12:51.07 | guzu | jelly, oh, i see |
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| 12:51.26 | jelly | Kuba: consider using something like etckeeper if you want to keep track of local configuration tuneups |
| 12:51.30 | nsadmin | is the postinst even present in the package? |
| 12:51.48 | nsadmin | that is, is it not used because it's plain missing? |
| 12:52.03 | moodh | Hi! How do I change the name on my server? |
| 12:52.05 | jelly | indraveni: can you upload the source package tree somewhere? |
| 12:52.23 | indraveni | let me know the url please |
| 12:52.33 | indraveni | where i can upload |
| 12:52.39 | indraveni | ok i would upload in yousendit.com |
| 12:52.59 | jelly | also, |
| 12:53.01 | jelly | !mentors |
| 12:53.01 | dpkg | somebody said mentors was the system that the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg> or <mg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org. |
| 12:53.05 | nsadmin | !pastebinit |
| 12:53.05 | dpkg | [pastebinit] a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". In lenny, use "pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net", because it's broken for most other sites (#572728). |
| 12:53.21 | nsadmin | oops, didn't want that one |
| 12:53.23 | nsadmin | !pastebin |
| 12:53.23 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>. |
| 12:53.26 | jelly | nsadmin: pastebins don't do binary files |
| 12:53.35 | nsadmin | wikisend? |
| 12:54.22 | jelly | oh, right. well yousendit is older |
| 12:56.29 | nsadmin | well you have another choice now... or you could install something like openacs and then file storage on that |
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| 12:57.07 | jelly | yes, because that's MUCH simpler |
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| 12:59.50 | greenberet123 | Hi, I am remote accessing a debian 3 system which has no /sys directory...what are the implicaztions? is it an incomplete install? |
| 12:59.55 | superlinux | hi. how can I force every file once it's created in a folder to belong a group, while it allows other group members to change and write in the file any time they like? let suppose the the folder belongs to a group named "web developers". |
| 13:00.43 | jelly | superlinux: setgid on the directory and make all the users use umask 002 to create group-writable files |
| 13:01.22 | superlinux | jelly, I'll read about it |
| 13:01.33 | jelly | !permissions |
| 13:01.33 | dpkg | For more information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions' and http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions or http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html - for even further info see these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod, or follow the setuid and setgid links found in the wikipedia pages, or http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions, or <qotd232> |
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| 13:07.56 | Kuba | I am wondering where should I put my get-mac-address.sh that is used in /etc/network/interfaces (pre-up): either /usr/local/sbin or ..., what? ;] |
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| 13:10.17 | jelly | Kuba: sounds reasonable |
| 13:10.41 | greenberet123 | What does it mean to not have a /sys directory? |
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| 13:11.39 | jelly | Kuba: why not just put it in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ where it belongs |
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| 13:13.06 | indraveni | nsadmin: the uploading of the complete source is taking time |
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| 13:13.25 | indraveni | please tell me which ever file you want to see, i would show through pastebin |
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| 13:13.59 | nsadmin | maybe debian/control |
| 13:14.20 | nsadmin | is the postinst in debian/? |
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| 13:16.01 | jelly | greenberet123: some kernel variable won't be available for your inspection and tuning |
| 13:16.26 | jelly | greenberet123: why do you ask? |
| 13:16.33 | Kuba | jelly: Are You sure you meant that? get-my-address.sh is script used in mapping stanza... Or maybe You're talking about putting my iptables rules script in if-pre-up.d? (btw. would this be invoked for every interfaces being broght up?) |
| 13:16.59 | g00dtimes | greetings fine people of debian. i'm trying to compile a modules in lenny using modules assistant for a kernel that is currently not running (i want to downgrade). is this possible with m-a? |
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| 13:17.31 | g00dtimes | i was thinking something like this: KVERS=2.6.26-1-686; m-a -k /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686/ install drbd8 |
| 13:17.33 | jelly | Kuba: oh, dunno about it if it's used in mapping |
| 13:17.59 | zkoo | g00dtimes: -l ? |
| 13:18.45 | jelly | Kuba: there's more than one way to do it since Debian doesn't have preapproved places for lots of the network stuff. /msg dpkg iptables links to a wiki page with some discussion |
| 13:18.54 | g00dtimes | zook: will -l limit the build to the specified version? |
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| 13:19.14 | nsadmin | why -1? |
| 13:19.42 | zkoo | g00dtimes: seems so |
| 13:19.46 | g00dtimes | damn ym dyslexia |
| 13:22.03 | g00dtimes | zkoo: givn it a shot on my laptop..... |
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| 13:25.42 | indraveni | in this article , http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/336 i see that dpkg-buildpackage, is executing debian/control, debian/rules, but no debian/postinst |
| 13:25.53 | indraveni | is there any other command with which the debian package is to be created |
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| 13:26.54 | metalfan_ | hi |
| 13:27.06 | metalfan_ | how can i get rid of a application and all the deps it installed |
| 13:27.21 | zkoo | metalfan_: aptitude remove packagename |
| 13:27.25 | metalfan_ | just "remove" only wants to remove the application itself |
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| 13:27.34 | petemc | metalfan_: how did you install it? |
| 13:27.41 | metalfan_ | aptitude install package |
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| 13:28.50 | metalfan_ | ah, mythtv-common did the trick |
| 13:29.12 | metalfan_ | but i am sure that i installed mythtv to get it |
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| 13:30.23 | metalfan_ | thx |
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| 13:35.46 | jelly | indraveni: try asking in #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org about package building if you get no answers here |
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| 13:37.29 | g00dtimes | zkoo: well that didnt work like i envisioned. i installed drbd8-source from backports (apt-get -t lenny-backports install drbd8-source" then I invoked m-a -l 2.6.26-1-686 install drbd8-module and it failed. |
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| 13:38.30 | g00dtimes | zkoo: with no errors in "/var/cache/modass/drbd8-module-source*" |
| 13:40.16 | lunaphyte_ | hi. how can i see on which device a disk resides? (e.g. i want to know what controller /dev/sda is on). |
| 13:40.22 | g00dtimes | zkoo: am I specifying the correct format of the kernel version? if not, whats the correct format? |
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| 13:44.00 | g00dtimes | well, building the em8300 modules works with the method I used above, but the module source is from the main debian repo, not bpo. is m-a supported with bpo repo? |
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| 13:47.36 | jelly | lunaphyte_: ls -l /sys/block/sda/device |
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| 13:49.24 | jelly | lunaphyte_: then there's /sys/class/scsi_host/host* if you need to trace it down to a pci device or a driver. Also grep that scsi designation (eg. 1:0:0:0) in dmesg / kern.log |
| 13:49.44 | lunaphyte_ | cool, thanks. |
| 13:49.44 | oliva | Hi there I have enabled userdir and php5 in apache2 and have commented out the php_admin_value engine Off directive as suggested in the php5.conf file, but apache keeps asking me to download the php file in my public_html directory instead of running the script. What should I do? |
| 13:50.48 | jelly | eh, ls -l /sys/block/sda shows all that |
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| 13:52.42 | ethanol | oliva: #httpd |
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| 14:01.48 | joker_89 | hi i want to sintall debian on my laptop |
| 14:01.57 | joker_89 | whit desktop is better? gnome or KDE? |
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| 14:02.00 | joker_89 | for debain |
| 14:02.03 | injekt | Hey guys, getting these errors on apt-get update: http://pastie.org/1047194 I've been to SecureApt but non of the steps worked for me, any ideas? |
| 14:03.10 | ethanol | joker_89: there is no 'better' |
| 14:03.24 | joker_89 | but |
| 14:03.25 | ethanol | joker_89: and personally, I'd suggest ubuntu for gui people |
| 14:03.52 | joker_89 | i want debian because i am familaried in debian servers |
| 14:03.55 | joker_89 | but i never use a guie |
| 14:03.56 | joker_89 | gui |
| 14:04.01 | ethanol | joker_89: a laptop is not a server |
| 14:04.10 | joker_89 | i know |
| 14:04.18 | joker_89 | but debian have also a gui like ubuntu |
| 14:04.24 | joker_89 | and i install the testing branch |
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| 14:04.44 | ethanol | so you're going to use something you are not familiar with because you are familiar with something else? I fail to see your logic |
| 14:05.18 | joker_89 | i like debian |
| 14:05.26 | joker_89 | and i read its good for desktop |
| 14:05.35 | ethanol | I read windows is good too |
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| 14:22.59 | guzu | how do i select default desktop? (window manager) |
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| 14:23.46 | jelly | guzu: choose it on the gdm or kdm login screen if you use one of those |
| 14:24.14 | guzu | jelly, i have no gdm, since x is not starting. but i have vncserver :) |
| 14:25.14 | jelly | guzu: hm... something along the lines of /msg dpkg xinitrc, perhaps |
| 14:25.41 | guzu | jelly, thank you, i'll try |
| 14:25.42 | jelly | guzu: please report back the correct factoid when you find it ;-) |
| 14:26.06 | guzu | seems to be .xsession |
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| 14:26.18 | nsadmin | if x is not starting, you can't run a wm either (for same reason you can't run xdm) |
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| 14:26.51 | jelly | nsadmin: he's starting an X server, just not with a *dm |
| 14:26.59 | guzu | nsadmin, right |
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| 14:27.19 | nsadmin | so you're using startx? |
| 14:27.21 | jelly | and not at the console, but embedded in an vnc server |
| 14:27.32 | guzu | nsadmin, no, vbnc4server |
| 14:27.37 | guzu | nsadmin, no, vnc4server |
| 14:27.49 | jelly | nsadmin: it's not a local X session, it's vnc |
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| 14:28.11 | guzu | nsadmin, something like this: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/vnc.htm |
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| 14:29.30 | jelly | nsadmin: this is typical usage of vnc for unix; the vnc server started its own X session which you connected to over vnc. |
| 14:29.38 | nsadmin | ok, so it says in part... Install vncserver (as root): This package provides a vncserver to which X clients can connect |
| 14:30.13 | jelly | nsadmin: vnc servers connecting to an existing X session, like x11vnc, came later |
| 14:30.48 | nsadmin | in the chronology of development you mean? |
| 14:31.28 | nsadmin | so how much of vnc is free and how much is not, and can you do a complete setup with the free stuff? |
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| 14:32.30 | jelly | it's free enough, all the mentioned software is in Debian |
| 14:32.40 | nsadmin | is there a GNUnc? |
| 14:32.49 | nsadmin | or something along those lines |
| 14:33.22 | nsadmin | by the strict definition of "in debian" which is "in main"? :) |
| 14:34.31 | jelly | non-free isn't part of Debian |
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| 14:34.51 | nsadmin | so it is in main? |
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| 14:35.27 | nsadmin | which should imply you can get source and it's buildable |
| 14:35.30 | jelly | nsadmin: apt-cache policy vnc4server x11vnc will answer that |
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| 14:36.57 | nsadmin | yep... main |
| 14:37.08 | dunix | There are a few open source VNC apps iirc |
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| 14:40.17 | CrazyWoods | how about use debian as server os? |
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| 14:41.06 | nsadmin | I've heard wild rumors that's been done... |
| 14:41.37 | nsadmin | I've never seen the one I use (as it's 3000 miles away from me) |
| 14:42.13 | nsadmin | so what do you want to serve |
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| 14:42.45 | CrazyWoods | nsadmin, website |
| 14:43.27 | nsadmin | it can do that, and it's a very stable platform |
| 14:43.28 | helo_ | i think debian is more geared towards gamers... |
| 14:43.39 | nsadmin | something you would want for a server |
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| 14:44.38 | nsadmin | helo_, if only that were true... I'd never boot wincrap again |
| 14:44.51 | CrazyWoods | nsadmin, i buy a VPS, but the only support debian ubuntu and centos, i don't know which to choose |
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| 14:45.22 | nsadmin | hmm. you have to be the one to make that decision. |
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| 14:46.02 | helo_ | CrazyWoods: sorry for being offtopic, but what hosting provider are you considering? |
| 14:46.24 | ethanol | CrazyWoods: debian is pretty solid for a server |
| 14:46.25 | CrazyWoods | helo_, i had buy it |
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| 14:46.57 | helo_ | what did you buy? |
| 14:46.59 | asarch | Trying to play this game: http://assault.cubers.net/ |
| 14:47.09 | CrazyWoods | ethanol, really |
| 14:47.09 | asarch | I get: bin_unix/linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 14:47.25 | asarch | Where is this libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 library? |
| 14:47.26 | CrazyWoods | helo_, diahosting :) |
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| 14:48.38 | nsadmin | the truth is, they'll all do pretty good |
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| 14:49.26 | bent_screwdriver | voyage - how do i disable logging to console? i've tried editing /etc/syslog.conf, even stopping inetutils-syslogd, and it still logs to console. |
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| 14:49.51 | CrazyWoods | nsadmin, which are more suitable on a VPS |
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| 14:50.22 | nsadmin | they all have web server software available |
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| 14:51.21 | CrazyWoods | centos had php5.1.x |
| 14:51.26 | asarch | Bingo!: libsdl-image1.2 |
| 14:51.30 | asarch | D'oh! |
| 14:51.33 | nsadmin | debian's main benefits are that it's easily upgradable and the released versions are very stable |
| 14:51.36 | jelly | !tell bent_screwdriver about printk |
| 14:51.47 | jelly | bent_screwdriver: kernel does that directly |
| 14:51.58 | CrazyWoods | i use centos build chroot, but fail |
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| 14:52.10 | CrazyWoods | it support openssh4.x.x |
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| 14:52.51 | jelly | CrazyWoods: choose the one you're more comfortable and experienced with |
| 14:52.53 | jordanm | CrazyWoods: this is not an appropriate place to ask "which distro". our answers will obviously be biased |
| 14:52.59 | jordanm | !tell CrazyWoods about why debian |
| 14:53.02 | jae | Is there a MUA that's not completely screwed up? |
| 14:53.10 | jae | tried kmail... oh, yes, I |
| 14:53.10 | petemc | mutt sucks less |
| 14:53.12 | jordanm | jae: mutt? thunderbird? gnus? |
| 14:53.27 | jae | tried kmail... oh, yes, I *want* my mil move from my ~/Maildir... |
| 14:54.00 | jelly | jae: solution: access ~/Maildir/ over a localhost imap swerver. |
| 14:54.07 | jordanm | you can probably setup procmail to do whatever you want with it |
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| 14:54.18 | jae | To clarify: I'm using mutt, but need something that does HTML mail *once in awhile |
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| 14:54.41 | jelly | jae: thunderbird seems to be a common choice |
| 14:54.45 | jae | jelly: it looks like it will come down to that |
| 14:54.47 | frostschutz | my mutt does html mail just fine using lynx/links ;) |
| 14:54.55 | jelly | frostschutz: fsvo fine |
| 14:55.02 | jae | Hate it though, looks like "oh yes, we'll use XML" |
| 14:55.05 | DogBoy | I'm cloning an install using tar, can I save some space by erasing the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/ first? |
| 14:55.21 | jae | frostschutz: links is not "fine" for HMTL mail |
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| 14:55.54 | DogBoy | who gets html mail |
| 14:55.54 | jordanm | jae: unless its html + images, I don't see why not |
| 14:56.08 | jae | Honestly, why does kmail insist on moving the mail? Can't it just leave it in place? |
| 14:56.19 | petemc | its not a configurable option? |
| 14:56.26 | frostschutz | as long as it moves the mail it's fine, for me it deleted the mail :) |
| 14:56.28 | jae | jordanm: if it's not HTML + *images* why does anyone need HTML mail? ;-P |
| 14:56.44 | petemc | to check if you've read the mail |
| 14:56.45 | nsadmin | links? |
| 14:56.54 | jordanm | jae: for people who do not know what html is, or that they are using html email |
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| 14:57.06 | jordanm | jae: those are the only people I recieve html mail from... |
| 14:57.12 | nsadmin | to have links in the mail that point at a web application |
| 14:57.12 | asarch | It runs veeeery smoothly |
| 14:57.13 | asarch | :-) |
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| 14:57.35 | jelly | jae: "corrections are in red and my comments are in blue" |
| 14:57.50 | bent_screwdriver | jelly: is the printk function configurable in kernel settings somewhere? |
| 14:58.14 | jelly | bent_screwdriver: yeah. Did you not get a private message from dpkg? |
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| 14:58.48 | bent_screwdriver | jelly: no, but i just found it in sysctl.conf. Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction! |
| 14:59.03 | jelly | dpkg: spank dpkg |
| 14:59.04 | dpkg | bends dpkg over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 14:59.27 | bent_screwdriver | lol |
| 14:59.30 | jelly | the bot has weird geometry and can do that. |
| 14:59.50 | jelly | !printk |
| 14:59.50 | dpkg | printk is, like, see docs for <sysctl> and adjust /etc/sysctl.conf kernel.printk (3 4 1 7 or so). You can also use 'dmesg -n1' command. See http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt or man 5 proc /printk for meaning of the numbers (console_loglevel, default_message_loglevel, minimum_console_level, default_console_loglevel) |
| 15:00.35 | nsadmin | it has the geometry of one of those three-handled, two-pronged wigits |
| 15:01.18 | jelly | nsadmin: it's like a bent screwdriver |
| 15:02.09 | nsadmin | it looks like this... |
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| 15:02.33 | nsadmin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blivet |
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| 15:04.21 | jae | Time for a reboot to (hopefully) get rid of those mysterious KDE processes (I'm to annoyed to kill them by hand) |
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| 15:08.11 | jelly | MysTEEERIOUS? *wiggles fingers* |
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| 15:08.47 | jelly | jae: you can just log off kde and kill all your processes from the console |
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| 15:12.15 | archangelamael | Hello can anyone help me with checkinstall and building a .deb? |
| 15:12.48 | nsadmin | there are #debian-mentors on oftc.net |
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| 15:13.31 | archangelamael | Thanks. |
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| 15:13.40 | nsadmin | also |
| 15:13.44 | nsadmin | !nmg |
| 15:13.44 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ , http://wiki.debian.org/Courses2005/BuildingWithoutHelper |
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| 15:14.32 | archangelamael | Yes I have the docs up, but I am not finding what I am looking for. |
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| 15:15.55 | nsadmin | checkinstall (like dh_make) will not always give you a fully buildable source; you might still need to edit something |
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| 15:19.03 | Nwallins | what's the miminum package needed to mount CIFS? cifs-utils ? |
| 15:19.23 | llutz | Nwallins: smbfs |
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| 15:19.32 | Nwallins | thx |
| 15:19.33 | jelly | judd: file bin/mount.cifs |
| 15:19.36 | judd | bin/mount.cifs in lenny/i386: smbfs: sbin/mount.cifs |
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| 15:23.46 | nevyn | so is a undeclared dependancy in a package serious or important? |
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| 15:26.37 | jelly | depends on the breakage it causes |
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| 15:27.20 | jelly | if it makes the package completely unusable it ought to be RC |
| 15:28.19 | nevyn | important is still rc |
| 15:29.05 | jelly | nope |
| 15:29.13 | jelly | serious is lowest rc |
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| 15:31.07 | nsadmin | if it's critical, that means it affects many other packages |
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| 15:34.39 | nevyn | nsadmin: I never suggested critical :) |
| 15:34.52 | nevyn | the question was. important or serious? |
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| 15:35.12 | jelly | nsadmin just likes to expands for the sake of the public |
| 15:35.21 | jelly | exposition? |
| 15:35.26 | jelly | explode? |
| 15:36.50 | jelly | so if it's a missing Depends, it's probably serious; if it's a missing Suggests it's probably important. If it's a missing Recommends who knows, there's an inflation of those. |
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| 15:40.42 | rookie2010 | how i can put a file with only access for root |
| 15:40.47 | rookie2010 | chmod 700 |
| 15:40.50 | rookie2010 | its correct |
| 15:41.01 | jordanm | if its owned by root, yes |
| 15:41.06 | jordanm | !tell rookie2010 about permissions |
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| 15:45.11 | Nwallins | "Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated" in favor of? |
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| 15:47.17 | n0ta_ | Hi, i hava a problem with getting some mails (like hotmail) gmail is fine, i get the following erros, from mail.log: http://nopaste.voric.com/paste.php?f=xf7wls | Any idea ? |
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| 15:48.16 | jordanm | n0ta: looks like you have implemented greylisting |
| 15:48.20 | jordanm | Nwallins: ifup/ifdown |
| 15:48.32 | Alterscape | Question: I'm administering a Lenny server with two physical NICs assigned static IP addresses. Only one NIC (eth0) currently has a live ethernet cable connected. For whatever reason, I can talk to the 192.168.0.* subnet fine, but not the wide world. As soon as I $ifconfig eth1 down, though, everything works as expected. Any ideas what might be up? There doesn't seem to be anything in /etc/network/interfaces suggesting it should p |
| 15:49.10 | jordanm | Alterscape: check your default route |
| 15:49.44 | nsadmin | Alterscape why two nics? |
| 15:50.23 | nsadmin | I think maybe he's still typing |
| 15:51.43 | guzu | Alterscape, i would think of routes |
| 15:51.47 | Alterscape | nsadmin: It's a rackmount server; I inherited it in that config. still trying to figure out what's up with its guts. |
| 15:52.06 | Alterscape | Ok, here's netstat -nr: http://pastebin.org/399737 .. looks to me like the issue may be that the eth1 version of the 0.0.0.0 route appears first in the list? |
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| 15:52.14 | nsadmin | so you don't actually use both nics |
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| 15:52.44 | Alterscape | nsadmin: I believe in ancient days of yore they were using both nics, but it's overkill for the current application. |
| 15:52.49 | jordanm | Alterscape: you shouldn't have two default routes, and two interfaces on the same network is often not needed |
| 15:52.52 | guzu | jelly, # update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 15:53.16 | nsadmin | well the machine would work as a router |
| 15:53.19 | guzu | but strange enough, after ~ 200 mb of lxde-desktop, lxde is not an option |
| 15:53.32 | jordanm | nsadmin: if the nics were on differnet nets |
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| 15:53.40 | acxty | HI guys, does someone know of a text based msn client different that tmsnc? |
| 15:53.55 | nsadmin | right, and if not, he should just retire one for now |
| 15:53.56 | jordanm | guzu: lxde uses blackbox or somesuch, try x-session-manager |
| 15:54.18 | Alterscape | yeah, I would be perfectly alright with disabling eth1 'til such time as we want to do something that actually requires two nics. |
| 15:54.30 | jordanm | Alterscape: so do it? |
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| 15:54.53 | nsadmin | you don't have to "disable" it so much as bring it down |
| 15:55.01 | Alterscape | yeah. Just want it down on boot. |
| 15:55.14 | guzu | jordanm, x-session-manager does nothing visible :) |
| 15:55.23 | nsadmin | so, you should have a /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:55.30 | jelly | guzu: it might be using some other wm like fluxbox by default |
| 15:55.31 | jordanm | guzu: was lxde an option? |
| 15:55.55 | jordanm | Alterscape: and you don't know how? your the linux admin? |
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| 15:56.48 | guzu | jordanm, no, where is this documented? |
| 15:56.59 | Nwallins | man interfaces |
| 15:57.14 | jordanm | !install lxde |
| 15:57.14 | dpkg | To install <LXDE> on established systems, ask me about <install x>, then: aptitude install lxde . To install using Debian-Installer: press the Tab key at d-i's boot prompt, then include desktop=lxde in the boot options. See also http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Debian |
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| 15:57.58 | jordanm | guzu: looks like their documentation uses x-session-manager |
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| 15:58.52 | guzu | jordanm, well, man x-session-manager says strtlxde can have some options passed, but doesn't say which :) |
| 15:59.00 | guzu | start* |
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| 15:59.10 | flourish | hi all, i delete /usr/local/lib/python2.6 by mistake, how can i find it back? which package has these files |
| 15:59.14 | jordanm | guzu: what says that? |
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| 15:59.21 | jordanm | !tell flourish about apt-file |
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| 16:00.02 | jordanm | flourish: actually... no debian package uses /usr/local, that would be a violation of policy |
| 16:00.11 | jordanm | IIRC, it can create dirs there, but never files |
| 16:00.21 | guzu | jordanm, http://paste.debian.net/80640/ |
| 16:00.54 | flourish | jordanm: but python-httplib2 use /usr/local/lib .. |
| 16:01.12 | Alterscape | jordanm: Learning as I go. Problem now solved; thanks for the tip re: default route. |
| 16:01.29 | jordanm | guzu: sounds like you are looking for a solution without a problem. lxde wiki would be my suggestion |
| 16:01.46 | guzu | jordanm, thank you |
| 16:02.04 | jordanm | flourish: no, it doesn't |
| 16:04.17 | jordanm | flourish: http://paste.debian.net/80643/ |
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| 16:04.43 | jordanm | flourish: sounds like you have "not debian" |
| 16:05.11 | guzu | jordanm, unfortunately the wiki does not match the squeeze system here |
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| 16:06.06 | jordanm | guzu: well, you as the tester for the future release, could help out by filling in new documentation :) |
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| 16:06.11 | flourish | jordanm: it is debain/ sid |
| 16:06.29 | guzu | jordanm, right |
| 16:06.55 | moldovean | guzu, you may edit/update wiki to match the squeeze |
| 16:07.06 | jordanm | flourish: yes, that pastebin is from a debian system. if you have a .deb that installed to /usr/local, i highly doubt its from debian |
| 16:07.15 | flourish | jordanm: yes, you are right:-) |
| 16:07.15 | jordanm | that is a blatent FHS violation |
| 16:07.30 | jordanm | flourish: err, meant to say the pastebin is from a sid system |
| 16:07.33 | guzu | moldovean, sure, after i find out how's in squeeze :) |
| 16:07.53 | jordanm | guzu: perhaps even move some documentation from upstream lxde to the debian wiki |
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| 16:08.18 | flourish | jordanm: well, i am now trying to set up a git server, and since i delete the folder /usr/local/lib/python2.6 by mistake, now it gives me |
| 16:08.21 | flourish | [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/test-easy-install-7964.write-test' |
| 16:08.46 | flourish | when i install gitosis |
| 16:09.23 | jordanm | flourish: well, I have to say you are own your own |
| 16:09.45 | jordanm | we couldn't possibly know the software you have locally installed to /usr/local, how it should be, or where it came from |
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| 16:09.59 | jordanm | best suggestion I can make is to restore from a backup |
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| 16:11.03 | flourish | jordanm: hum, i don't know either;-( |
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| 16:17.32 | mister_m | why, when I try to double click on a .deb package does it say that the archive type is not supported? |
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| 16:18.31 | guzu | jordanm, jelly, moldovean it seems the instructions in the wiki are good only after reboot :) |
| 16:18.42 | jelly | why would one want to doubleclick a package! |
| 16:18.55 | nevyn | jelly: there are all sorts of sane things that could be done. |
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| 16:19.21 | nevyn | the obvious one is open it with synaptic or something that does someting sensible with it |
| 16:19.37 | jordanm | mister_m: you need binutils to open an ar archive, not sure if your graphical program supports ar |
| 16:19.44 | moldovean | guzu, add that comment to wiki .. |
| 16:19.48 | guzu | but of course, in vnc i still have fluxbox |
| 16:20.52 | mister_m | I was trying to install google chrome using dpkg -i, but I don't see it anywhere anywhere after it's finished |
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| 16:21.38 | nevyn | mister_m: try ~/Downloads |
| 16:21.43 | jordanm | mister_m: run "google-chrome" |
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| 16:23.28 | jelly | nevyn: I know there are handlers like gdebi to handle opening a .deb file from a GUI file manager. Still I cringe a little at clueless users double-clicking and installing random downloaded stuff |
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| 16:23.59 | mister_m | jelly, it's hardly random downloaded stuff |
| 16:24.15 | lindi- | mister_m: well we have this chromium-browser package in debian |
| 16:24.18 | jordanm | so do the devs. IIRC the reason the gdebi is never isntalled by default for installing .deb, is because it does not verify key signatures like apt |
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| 16:24.25 | jordanm | lindi-: not in stable |
| 16:24.39 | lindi- | jordanm: true but unstable chroots work |
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| 16:25.05 | jordanm | lindi-: I have never tried chrooting for GUI applications, doesn't it need access to the X socket file? |
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| 16:25.18 | lindi- | jordanm: yes you bind mount it |
| 16:25.23 | jelly | mister_m: it's an untrusted binary software package |
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| 16:25.45 | lindi- | jordanm: iki.fi/lindi/schroot.txt has my notes |
| 16:25.50 | jelly | (yes, I know it's just Chrome) |
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| 16:26.32 | guzu | moldovean, done |
| 16:26.44 | craigevil | mister_m: easier add the Google repo and key then use aptitude to install chrome |
| 16:27.07 | mister_m | craigevil, and how to I add the repository |
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| 16:27.44 | craigevil | mister_m: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html |
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| 16:28.54 | jordanm | craigevil: installation of the package also adds the sources and key for you |
| 16:29.08 | craigevil | yes it does, so does opera |
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| 16:29.51 | craigevil | crap my fonts or locales must be messed up, jordanm all i see before my name is a bunch of squares |
| 16:29.57 | jordanm | sorry if I just sent a massive flood... my ssh session choked and then I saw the same line pasted accross half my screen and had kill irssi... |
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| 16:30.30 | jordanm | craigevil: no, it was issue with my client/connection, unless you still can't see what I am typing |
| 16:30.50 | craigevil | no just the one line was messed up |
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| 16:31.40 | jordanm | yeah... I have no idea how it happened like that... when my connection choked I just hit backspace a few times and enter, thinking it would go as expected when the connection kicked back in |
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| 16:33.53 | mister_m | okay for some reason dpkg installed google chrome, but it's not in the applications menu |
| 16:33.56 | rookie2010 | if i dont have update-rc.d, its there another way to include my script when execute the script on every runlevel |
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| 16:34.35 | jordanm | mister_m: create one. rather easy if you have gnome |
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| 16:35.29 | jordanm | rookie2010: thats part of sysvinit, how could you not have it? |
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| 16:35.54 | jhutchins_lt | mister_m: Sometimes you need to re-start Gnome for new entries to appear, but the package would have had to know you were running Debian and Gnome. |
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| 16:37.00 | jordanm | rookie2010: sorry, sysv-rc actually. are you sure you are running debian? |
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| 16:37.49 | craigevil | mister_m: run update-menus as user |
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| 16:38.03 | neeraj_deb | Hi any one knows how to run debian inside virtual box in fullscreen mode..? |
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| 16:38.52 | unsub | neerj_deb ctrl f |
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| 16:39.18 | unsub | neeraj_deb ctrl+f |
| 16:39.24 | jordanm | has to be right ctrl by default |
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| 16:40.12 | unsub | yea jordanm |
| 16:40.15 | neeraj_deb | unsub, jordman I mean full resolution.. Pressing ctrl+f only shows back at boundary |
| 16:40.51 | unsub | hmm not sure |
| 16:40.59 | neeraj_deb | I am using ubuntu and windows inside virtual box and by installing guest additions I am able to run them in full resolution |
| 16:41.12 | jordanm | neeraj_deb: ok... where does debian come in? |
| 16:41.35 | neeraj_deb | jordanm, ?? |
| 16:41.40 | jordanm | !ubuntu |
| 16:41.40 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 16:42.12 | neeraj_deb | jordanm, I knw the difference between them |
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| 16:42.48 | neeraj_deb | I am just asking if anyone knws the method to run debian in full resolution.. |
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| 16:43.38 | jordanm | neeraj_deb: sure, let us know when you are running debian |
| 16:44.04 | neeraj_deb | I am running debian at present (inside virtual box) |
| 16:44.07 | Godel | Unable to ping gateway from windows client wireless connection to access point. |
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| 16:44.20 | jordanm | neeraj_deb: you just told us you were running ubuntu |
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| 16:44.44 | dunix | jordanm, he is saying those worked, but debian is not |
| 16:44.44 | jordanm | neeraj_deb: lets see the output of uname -r; apt-cache policy libc6 dpkg |
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| 16:45.07 | mister_m | jordanm, I think he is trying to run debian inside of virtual box in ubuntu |
| 16:45.09 | neeraj_deb | jordanm, sorry for confusion but at present I am running both ubuntu and debian and both on virtual machine |
| 16:45.14 | jordanm | dunix: I am not getting that even after rereading.... |
| 16:46.05 | jordanm | neeraj_deb: and you have already installed guest additions? if so, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log. which version of debian? |
| 16:46.13 | craigevil | set the guest resolution to whatever fullscreen is for you |
| 16:46.13 | jordanm | sorry, I didn't understand that is what you meant |
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| 16:46.40 | jordanm | craigevil: it should automagically change resolutions when he does C-f |
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| 16:48.04 | mee | neeraj_deb: I recently had the same problem, and discovered that the installer sets up grub to default to a kernel that didn't work with the guest additions. What does uname -r say? |
| 16:48.11 | psycho_oreos | any of you guys familiar with apt-mirror tool? I'm having issues with the perl script, its chucking me errors whilst trying to parse a large list to download |
| 16:48.47 | mee | fortunately, it also installed the more standard 2.6.32-5-686, so rebooting into + a reinstall of the guest additions worked |
| 16:48.48 | unsub | mee i had the same problem too. i had to choose a different kernel and it worked |
| 16:48.53 | neeraj_deb | mee,jordanm please wait for a min. I m restarting debian again |
| 16:48.58 | jordanm | mee: its not that it doesn't work with it, its just not the version you compiled against |
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| 16:49.21 | mee | jordanm: specifically, it wouldn't compile against it (-trunk) |
| 16:49.25 | jordanm | mee: anytime you change kernels, prorpietary modules need to be reocmpiled |
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| 16:49.38 | jordanm | ah, well that should be removed anyhow |
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| 16:53.26 | neeraj_deb | Now when I am pressing ctrl+f the desktop is getting crop.. |
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| 16:53.53 | neeraj_deb | uname -r ---> 2.6.32-trunk-686 |
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| 16:54.09 | mister_m | do I need the non-us.debian.org source? |
| 16:54.21 | jordanm | neeraj_deb: that kernel should be upgraded and -trunk should be removed |
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| 16:55.47 | guzu | what's a gui browser with low resources available in debian? |
| 16:55.47 | neeraj_deb | * talking to dpkg and googling for help :) |
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| 16:56.16 | jordanm | guzu: lenny? |
| 16:56.24 | guzu | squeeze |
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| 16:56.55 | jordanm | guzu: midori |
| 16:57.04 | guzu | thank you both |
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| 16:58.52 | mister_m | I'm trying to isntall nautilus-dropbox through apt-get install nautilus-dropbox, but it says that Package nautilus-dropbox is not available, but is referred to by another package.nThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, ornis only available from another source |
| 16:59.06 | guzu | i added kazehakase just to see what's new |
| 17:00.10 | craigevil | guzu: also check out uzbl and netsurf |
| 17:00.25 | guzu | craigevil, thank you |
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| 17:00.53 | jordanm | !tell mister_m about why aptitude |
| 17:01.17 | docgnome | is there a way to feed aptitude install a list of packages on stdin? |
| 17:01.42 | psycho_oreos | Proceed indexes: [SSSSapt-mirror: invalid Sources format at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 412, <STREAM> line 962. <--- my exact error... http://pastebin.com/rgJZT6AA <--- my /etc/apt/mirror.list paste |
| 17:01.44 | craigevil | mister_m: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=dropbox&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 17:02.04 | jordanm | docgnome: sure, aptitude install < package_list |
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| 17:03.45 | docgnome | jordanm: how would i feed it the stdout of another command? guess i could dump the output to a file first |
| 17:04.28 | jordanm | docgnome: hmm I would try: aptitude search -F '%100p' foo | aptitude install as a test |
| 17:04.34 | jordanm | not sure if that will work |
| 17:05.08 | rfranknj | how can i set the preferred web browser? |
| 17:05.26 | docgnome | jordanm: %100p.. is that with out a newline? |
| 17:05.26 | jordanm | rfranknj: for a user or for the entire system? |
| 17:05.35 | rfranknj | jordanm: either, i'm the only user of the system |
| 17:05.35 | mister_m | make link is like creating a shortcut, right? |
| 17:05.43 | jordanm | docgnome: no, its each package on a newline |
| 17:05.50 | jordanm | package name only |
| 17:06.06 | docgnome | right, i've tried to strip out the newline cause i thought aptitude didn't like it |
| 17:06.08 | jordanm | rfranknj: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
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| 17:06.55 | rfranknj | jordanm: awesome, thanks |
| 17:07.05 | docgnome | jordanm: i was trying aptitude search -F '%p' foo | tr '\n' ' ' | aptitude install |
| 17:07.08 | docgnome | didn't work though |
| 17:07.53 | jordanm | docgnome: I think you will be better off making a temp file |
| 17:08.12 | docgnome | yeah prolly heh. more an academic question at this point |
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| 17:09.25 | neeraj_deb | uname -r -->> 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 17:10.12 | neeraj_deb | now the display is getting cropped in vertical when I press ctrl+f |
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| 17:12.06 | neeraj_deb | worst of all when I run debian (inside vitural machine ), I am getting slidding bars at bottom and top :(.. I hope you are understanding which slide bar problem I am talking about.. |
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| 17:14.21 | guzu | ah, epiphyany is not epiphany :( |
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| 17:14.53 | moldovean | epiphyany-browser |
| 17:14.55 | guzu | maybe it's epiphany-browser |
| 17:15.03 | guzu | ah, ok, thnx :) |
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| 17:15.09 | jhutchins_lt | Computers are so picky about spelling. |
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| 17:16.49 | chovy | especially when coding. |
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| 17:20.20 | simonrvn | that's the worst |
| 17:20.37 | simonrvn | and even with capitalisation |
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| 17:28.01 | strejla_u | Hi! |
| 17:28.43 | strejla_u | From where can i download Debian Sid? From debian.org i can download only stable or testing version of debian. |
| 17:29.22 | jimcooncat | wonders why |
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| 17:29.43 | tharkun | thinks that if you have to ask then you are not up to it |
| 17:29.53 | jordanm | strejla_u: that is an "if you have to ask" question |
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| 17:30.06 | jordanm | and seems I am not the only one who thinks that :) |
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| 17:30.34 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions iceweasel |
| 17:30.36 | judd | iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.10-1~bpo50+1; sid: 3.5.10-1; squeeze: 3.5.10-1; experimental: 3.6.4-1 |
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| 17:30.57 | ntrc | hi. what file should i edit for auto mounting a certain filesystem on boot, mtab or fstab? |
| 17:31.05 | tharkun | fstab |
| 17:31.05 | jimcooncat | strejla_u: from what little I know, sid's not for general use. If you want to play with it, try sidux. But not on your only computer. |
| 17:31.21 | jordanm | ntrc: fstab. there is "man fstab" to help out |
| 17:32.00 | neeraj_ | just informing-> problem got solved after changing the resolution from system->preference->monitors... stupid me.. Did n't tried that before.. |
| 17:32.11 | neeraj_ | thanku all for your time :) |
| 17:32.21 | strejla_u | thanx! i will try to get testing version. have to install oracle 11g on that. lenny has problems with it |
| 17:32.48 | jordanm | strejla_u: what problems? why not use what oracle recommends if that will be the server's purpose? |
| 17:33.05 | jimcooncat | strejla_u: might be better to find a workaround to use with lenny |
| 17:33.29 | jordanm | strejla_u: using testing instead is _not_ a solution, espeically if this is for production |
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| 17:33.31 | krisfremen | hmm, what's the simplest way to set up a jailed chroot on debian squeeze? |
| 17:33.52 | jordanm | krisfremen: debootstrap |
| 17:33.59 | peterS | krisfremen: depends on the purpose of the chroot. i.e., what will need to run inside it |
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| 17:34.16 | Beyecixramd | I'm trying to run mysqld, but i get this error http://fpaste.org/xuY0/ |
| 17:34.18 | jordanm | although, the concept of "jailing" typically refers to BSD's models |
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| 17:34.36 | strejla_u | jordanm: it is not for production, it is only to improve skill |
| 17:35.24 | jordanm | strejla_u: improve skill as a oracle DBA? |
| 17:35.30 | strejla_u | jimcooncat: tried to find out how to run oracle on lenny and did not found anything interesting |
| 17:35.53 | jordanm | strejla_u: if that is the case, you should probably be running oracle's linux |
| 17:35.54 | strejla_u | jordanm: improve overall skills :) |
| 17:35.59 | krisfremen | just irssi and bash |
| 17:36.01 | Cain | ,versions clamd |
| 17:36.02 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'clamd' was found. |
| 17:36.04 | insomnious | On running mysqld on my server i get this error : http://fpaste.org/xuY0/ |
| 17:36.04 | Cain | ,versions clamav |
| 17:36.05 | judd | clamav -- etch: 0.90.1dfsg-4etch19; etch-security: 0.90.1dfsg-4etch19; lenny: 0.94.dfsg.2-1lenny2; lenny-security: 0.94.dfsg.2-1lenny2; etch-backports: 0.95.2+dfsg-2~bpo40+1; etch-volatile: 0.95.3+dfsg-1~volatile1~etch2; lenny-volatile: 0.96.1+dfsg-1~volatile1; sid: 0.96.1+dfsg-1; squeeze: 0.96.1+dfsg-1 |
| 17:36.13 | jordanm | !tell Cain about message the bot |
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| 17:36.43 | strejla_u | have to go, system update ended and need restart |
| 17:36.45 | krisfremen | peterS: just irssi and bash |
| 17:36.47 | strejla_u | thanx! |
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| 17:36.49 | Cain | jordanm : thx |
| 17:37.11 | tharkun | Cain: if you are running lenny you should upgrade from volatile. |
| 17:37.43 | jordanm | krisfremen: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-chroot-ssh-env.en.html |
| 17:37.50 | Cain | tharkun : yes, how to do that ? |
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| 17:38.20 | tharkun | !tell Cain about volatile |
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| 17:38.35 | jordanm | no, at this point, he wants clamav from lenny main |
| 17:38.56 | tharkun | jordanm: clamav for lenny is broken long ago |
| 17:38.59 | jordanm | because the last point release obsoleted the volatile version, but he should still have volatile sources, because it won't stay that way for long |
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| 17:39.26 | jordanm | tharkun: compare the changelogs of volatile and debian main... just look at the version numbers. point releases! |
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| 17:40.29 | jordanm | tharkun: ugggh, sorry, you are right... 96 vs 94 |
| 17:40.41 | jordanm | that is however, the current case with spamassassin |
| 17:40.46 | fxiny | iirc clamav problems in stable was the virus db |
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| 17:41.06 | Cain | tharkun : thx a lot ! now clamd starts without segmentationfault |
| 17:41.11 | simonrvn | should be getting SA and clamav from volatile |
| 17:41.18 | fxiny | i am an old volatile customer ;P |
| 17:41.25 | xreal | What does this bonnie++ output mean? There is no manfile and nearly no information on the web... http://paste.pocoo.org/show/238383/ |
| 17:41.33 | jordanm | fxiny: right, but I thought they would have moved from volatile -> main in the last point release, as they did with spamassassin.... it even appeared as such when I was not looking close enough at the version numbers |
| 17:41.56 | tharkun | jordanm: eventually volatile as the factoid states has a more up to date versions of that type of programs |
| 17:42.16 | fxiny | jordanm: can't find the mail , i'm sure we were notified of changes by mail (list) , i'll check my archive |
| 17:42.28 | Justin | xreal: it's a table. run the csv output through bon_csv2html, that will make it easier to read |
| 17:43.05 | jordanm | tharkun: yes, and a similar factoid had me confused for an entire day with spamassasin |
| 17:43.08 | jordanm | tharkun: http://lists.debian.org/slrni2738i.56n.liam.p.otoole@dipsy.selfip.org |
| 17:44.06 | xreal | Justin: I've also created the CSV. Let me try. |
| 17:44.40 | jordanm | sorry if I created confusion for anyone |
| 17:45.26 | xreal | Justin: Thanks for the hint. But why does ++ +++ +++ + mean ? |
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| 17:45.31 | tharkun | !beer jordanm |
| 17:45.31 | dpkg | pulls out an excellent Delirium Tremens for jordanm |
| 17:45.36 | tharkun | We all make mistakes |
| 17:45.49 | Justin | xreal: it doesn't mean anything. look at the html version. |
| 17:46.14 | xreal | Justin: it's also in there. |
| 17:46.19 | Justin | it is? lol |
| 17:46.35 | Justin | it's just a stupid ascii art separater |
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| 17:46.51 | xreal | ah okay |
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| 17:47.54 | xreal | Justin: Could you help me analyse the results? Looks like reading is 212 MB7s and writing is 138 MB/s? |
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| 17:48.10 | Justin | xreal: yeah |
| 17:48.46 | xreal | Justin: Pretty slow for 6x U320 SCSI in RAID-0 ;-( |
| 17:49.05 | Justin | xreal: software or hardware raid? |
| 17:49.22 | xreal | Justin: Hardware-RAID. |
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| 17:49.29 | xreal | http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/system/2U/2020/AS-2020A-8R.cfm |
| 17:50.01 | Justin | ah yeah, that does seem a little slow |
| 17:50.29 | Justin | i have a 4 disk raid10 that does 200mb/s |
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| 17:51.01 | xreal | My S-ATA RAID-0 (2 WD Black) is also 200 MB/s. |
| 17:51.07 | xreal | I hate old SCSI hardware. |
| 17:51.18 | jhutchins_lt | I installed the backports kernel, but it looks like it didn't update grub. |
| 17:51.19 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 17:51.28 | Justin | yeah, not sure how fast U320 scsi is supposed to be.. what does that max out at? |
| 17:51.49 | fxiny | jordanm: from a april this year thread quoting a "debian-security-announce list last year" got this link http://lurker.clamav.net/message/20100407.141109.2a7c287b.en.html |
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| 17:53.32 | xreal | Hustin: 100 Mb/s I think |
| 17:53.36 | xreal | Justin: 100 Mb/s I think |
| 17:53.46 | fxiny | same month the announcement is "Subject: [volatile] Updated clamav-related packages available for testing" -> "Debian provides updated packages of newer clamav versions via the volatile.debian.org archive" |
| 17:54.01 | fxiny | volatile ++ |
| 17:54.09 | Justin | well if it is hardware raid.. there is the backplane to consider, and then how the raid controller itself connects to your system |
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| 17:55.08 | NTU | can you use the business card .iso and use dd to copy it to a usb stick? |
| 17:55.24 | NTU | or do you need to prepare the iso using some debian tool for usb booting? |
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| 17:55.55 | jordanm | !tell NTU about usb install |
| 17:56.00 | zebradog | NTU, dunno about that.. possibly |
| 17:56.12 | jordanm | NTU: you dd boot.img.gz and then _cp_ the .iso |
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| 17:56.31 | NTU | oh |
| 17:56.46 | jordanm | for "the easy way" atleast |
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| 17:57.33 | NTU | :( ill just use a regular CD then |
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| 17:57.46 | NTU | i care about installation stability. not ease |
| 17:58.20 | jordanm | NTU: the netinst is recommended if you have a connection during installation |
| 17:58.39 | NTU | ok not business card? |
| 17:58.45 | mister_m | so will gnash work fine in place of adobe flash player? |
| 17:59.07 | jordanm | NTU: business card would also work. I prefer netinst |
| 17:59.18 | jordanm | mister_m: in most cases, no |
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| 17:59.47 | jordanm | mister_m: but you can use html5 on youtube now |
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| 18:00.20 | mister_m | jordanm, mhm |
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| 18:00.47 | jordanm | mister_m: are you on an arch that is not supported by adobe flash? |
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| 18:02.13 | mister_m | jordanm, I am running 64 bit, so I have to try that workaround listed here: http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 18:02.47 | fxiny | wishes adobe could stick only on marble arch |
| 18:03.01 | fxiny | in a sunday rainy day ! |
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| 18:11.43 | zebradog | fxiny, great.. another rainbow guy |
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| 18:15.08 | fxiny | zebradog: double ? ;) |
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| 18:15.43 | smyows | hi |
| 18:15.55 | smyows | my postfix do not auth on sasl |
| 18:16.09 | smyows | Jul 16 15:10:15 shaka postfix/smtpd[13523]: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied |
| 18:16.17 | craigevil | mister_m: take a look at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=53036 |
| 18:16.47 | smyows | my default/saslauthd |
| 18:17.13 | smyows | MECHANISMS="rimap" , MECH_OPTIONS="localhost" , OPTIONS="-c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r" |
| 18:17.29 | smyows | my /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf |
| 18:17.56 | smyows | saslauthd_path: /var/run/saslauthd |
| 18:17.56 | smyows | pwcheck_method: saslauthd |
| 18:17.56 | smyows | mech_list: plain login cram-md5 digest-md5 |
| 18:17.56 | smyows | log_level: 7 |
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| 18:20.03 | mister_m | how do I upgrade my kernel |
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| 18:21.46 | xand | would it be too much to put ifconfig on the netinst CD >:| |
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| 18:23.37 | jhutchins_lt | xand: I think ip's on there. |
| 18:23.45 | xand | oh. |
| 18:23.47 | xand | too late :D |
| 18:24.06 | xand | what's the equivalent of ifconfig -a with that? |
| 18:24.39 | jhutchins_lt | xand: Dunno, I'm a serious fossil, never learned the new syntax. One of these days it'll get me and I'll have to. |
| 18:25.13 | xand | I think my NIC is too new for the stable netinst kernel |
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| 18:25.46 | jhutchins_lt | !tell xand about kmuto |
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| 18:26.10 | xand | hmm |
| 18:26.15 | xand | thanks I had forgotten the name of them |
| 18:26.34 | fxiny | new syntax and new configs are not my friends : my only two working brain cells are already taken ;P |
| 18:26.45 | craigevil | mister_m: if you have the kernel metapackage installed it will upgrade when you do aptitude full-upgrade, or you can install a new kernel as you would any other package |
| 18:27.02 | xand | don't they have CD images anymore? |
| 18:27.53 | jhutchins_lt | xand: For lenny certainly. |
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| 18:28.34 | jhutchins_lt | xand: Your question makes no sense. |
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| 18:31.21 | xreal | Here are my RAID-0 results: 6x U320-SCSI vs. 2x S-ATA II |
| 18:31.26 | xreal | http://87.230.55.31/bonnie_scsi.htm |
| 18:31.28 | xreal | http://87.230.55.31/bonnie_sata.htm |
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| 18:35.12 | xand | jhutchins_lt: that page seems to list just USB drive images |
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| 18:35.40 | xand | however I'm going to put in a spare intel NIC for now |
| 18:35.51 | jhutchins_lt | xand: All I see are iso's at http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 18:36.28 | xand | jhutchins_lt: oh, I missed the tiny download links >.< |
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| 18:39.08 | CrazyWoods | what's the python and openssh version support on debian5/ |
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| 18:40.02 | jordanm | CrazyWoods: packages.debian.org |
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| 18:43.47 | asarch | What is the name of the Pidgin module to see your MSN contacts |
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| 18:50.16 | jhutchins_lt | asarch: I don't think it's a module, I think it's built in. |
| 18:50.27 | asarch | D'oh! |
| 18:50.43 | asarch | Then this package was build without this support |
| 18:50.45 | asarch | :-( |
| 18:51.02 | craigevil | asarch: if you are running stable, install pidgin from backports |
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| 18:51.17 | asarch | Thank you very much craigevil |
| 18:51.19 | asarch | I will |
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| 18:53.06 | phuzion | I'm looking to install bind9, and it can't find debian. Which package do I need installed? I'm compiling from source |
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| 18:55.34 | lindi- | phuzion: how did you search? |
| 18:55.48 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions bind9 |
| 18:55.50 | judd | bind9 -- etch: 1:9.3.4-2etch6; etch-security: 1:9.3.4-2etch6; lenny: 1:9.6.ESV.R1+dfsg-0+lenny1; lenny-security: 1:9.6.ESV.R1+dfsg-0+lenny2; lenny-backports: 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1; sid: 1:9.7.1.dfsg.P2-2 |
| 18:55.52 | phuzion | lindi-: nevermind, I decided to use the version that's in the repositories |
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| 18:58.45 | jhutchins_lt | phuzion: It works fine. |
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| 19:03.54 | linduxed | i noticed that i have to run /etc/init.d/samba start manually as root after boot, why is that? |
| 19:03.58 | Spec | Heya -- if I have a password policy via login.defs(PASS_MAX_DAYS 90), and I want to have an account whose password is disabled, but will *never* expire, how can I accomplish such a thing? |
| 19:04.15 | Spec | linduxed: is it not in the proper /etc/rc#.d/ file? |
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| 19:04.32 | Spec | linduxed: you could, as root: update-rc.d samba defaults |
| 19:04.55 | linduxed | Spec: i have no idea about the first one |
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| 19:06.19 | linduxed | Spec: update-rc.d samba defaults *new line* System startup links for /etc/init.d/samba already exist. |
| 19:06.49 | Spec | linduxed: oki; so it's trying to start it up on boot. would need the various logs to further troubleshoot |
| 19:06.53 | jordanm | linduxed: check /var/log/daemon.log to see if its failing at boot |
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| 19:07.24 | jordanm | linduxed: also, I recommend (also the update-rc.d manpage recommends), using a different interface such as sysv-rc-conf |
| 19:10.00 | linduxed | daemon.log has no traces of 'samba' |
| 19:10.29 | jordanm | linduxed: what version of debian? |
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| 19:14.09 | linduxed | lenny |
| 19:14.37 | Spec | ah, i see ... my answer was: it's in the shadow file :) |
| 19:15.31 | Spec | jordanm: why sysv-rc-conf over update-rc.d? |
| 19:16.17 | jordanm | linduxed: what is the output of sysv-rc-conf --list samba? |
| 19:16.29 | windmill | Hi, did a netinstall of lenny with the intention of creating LAMP server, I selected web server and SQL from the tasksel menu. Rebooted.... I don't seem to have ifconfig why not? |
| 19:17.15 | jordanm | Spec: Please note that this program was designed for use in package mainâtainer scripts and, accordingly, has only the very limited functionality required by such scripts. System administrators are not encouraged to use update-rc.d to manage runlevels. They should edit the links directly or use runlevel editors such as sysv-rc-conf and bum instead. |
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| 19:17.32 | zebradog | windmill, lol.. /sbin/ |
| 19:17.42 | jordanm | windmill: as root... |
| 19:17.50 | Godel | I cannot ping from static Debian DNS Server with IP 173.10.164.121 to wireless connected Windows Desktop PC with IP 192.168.100.10. |
| 19:18.31 | jhutchins_lt | Godel: This is probably a problem with your wireless router. |
| 19:18.32 | windmill | zebradog, jordanm thanks :) I'm a muppet |
| 19:18.41 | jordanm | Godel: that is because 192.168.100.10 is a LAN IP and is protected by NAT. unfortunatly to understand this, you really need to dive into networking basics |
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| 19:18.57 | Godel | The LAN consists of Gateway (192.168.100.2) connected to wireless access point (192.168.100.1) |
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| 19:19.32 | jordanm | Godel: the behavior you describbed is expected, and good, unless you have worded incorrectly |
| 19:19.35 | Godel | I disabled Routing and NAT on wireless access point. I also disabled DHCP on both gateway and wireless access point. |
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| 19:20.26 | jordanm | Godel: well, your laptop needs a publically accessible IP, which will likely mean eliminating the router altogether |
| 19:20.34 | jhutchins_lt | It's pretty typical for a wireless network to be isolated from the local wired net except for the gateway. |
| 19:20.39 | jordanm | I would expect disabling NAT to do nothing more than cause you internet to stop functioning |
| 19:21.11 | jhutchins_lt | For it to work, I would expect both segments to be on the same subnet. |
| 19:21.21 | linduxed | i just noticed that my server is not working as the samba PDC. a domain user that is already cached on a laptop can log in, and thereafter get onto the samba shares that lie on the samba server |
| 19:21.29 | jhutchins_lt | You can route the one subnet to the other though. |
| 19:21.29 | linduxed | however |
| 19:21.29 | jordanm | and you can use a VPN to get them on the same subnet |
| 19:21.29 | Godel | But doesn't my gateway perform NAT. I turned NAT off on wireless access point (router). |
| 19:21.37 | linduxed | a user that is not cached cant get in |
| 19:21.46 | linduxed | it says that the domain is not available |
| 19:21.50 | jhutchins_lt | linduxed: Right. |
| 19:22.14 | linduxed | so in some way the server can be seen as a share, but doesn't handle the domain |
| 19:22.26 | linduxed | even though it should i think.... |
| 19:22.47 | jhutchins_lt | linduxed: Not unless you make it the domain login controller - a PDC. |
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| 19:23.57 | linduxed | jhutchins_lt: well i was quite sure it was set to be that |
| 19:24.18 | linduxed | i configured the server some time ago however, so i'll have to check... |
| 19:24.31 | linduxed | realizes he has to remember how you check that |
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| 19:25.03 | jordanm | Godel: I believe that this is off-topic for the channel. I believe you have a lack of understanding or misunderstanding about NAT. ##networking would be more appropriate for this. |
| 19:25.14 | jordanm | Godel: although it does not discuss NAT specifically, I highly recommend TCP/IP Illustrated volume 1 |
| 19:25.28 | Godel | Thanks I'll take a look at it. |
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| 19:26.44 | jhutchins_lt | Godel: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
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| 19:26.54 | Godel | Thanks. |
| 19:27.07 | jhutchins_lt | Godel: See also the Network Administrator's Guid from the same site. |
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| 19:30.30 | xreal | bye |
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| 19:44.36 | linduxed | oh i just found something |
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| 19:45.16 | linduxed | i just ran "net getlocalsid" and it printed "SID for domain FOOBAR1 is: .........." |
| 19:45.26 | linduxed | the machine is called foobar1 |
| 19:45.46 | linduxed | but the domain should be FOOBAR, that is without the 1 on the end |
| 19:45.54 | linduxed | how could this have happened? |
| 19:46.08 | quiritius | hi, can anyone get flash playing on http://www.thedailyshow.com in iceweasel on a 64bit squeeze? the sites like youtube.com play flash OK. flashplugin-nonfree installed. or should i really chroot into i386? |
| 19:46.09 | jordanm | linduxed: #samba? |
| 19:46.18 | linduxed | jordanm: yeah that's true |
| 19:46.50 | jordanm | linduxed: I hear its pretty dead, but I do not see much samba help happen in here |
| 19:46.53 | jhutchins_lt | linduxed: Shouldn't matter, except that you need a DNS entry pointing to the domain. |
| 19:48.12 | linduxed | jhutchins_lt: this is a new lenny install, the other drive is an old centos install. the old one needs no DNS pointing |
| 19:48.18 | linduxed | no such thing on the router |
| 19:49.14 | jhutchins_lt | linduxed: You can try it, or keep looking for an answer. |
| 19:49.19 | zebradog | quiritius, ia32libs, you can use 32bit browsers on 64bit linuxes |
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| 19:51.14 | linduxed | quiritius: if the issue is just that it doesn't load, then it's a site issue clearly |
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| 19:51.50 | linduxed | quiritius: i mean, you mentioned that youtube works, so the plugin works. |
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| 19:52.16 | linduxed | quiritius: try opening that specific page with a different browser, like chromium |
| 19:52.28 | quiritius | zebradog: is32libs are install for the flash. you mean install 32-bit browser alongside 64bit? |
| 19:53.16 | linduxed | quiritius: when iceweasel refuses to load some flash despite restart of application, cache clearing and a couple of other measures, a different browser for the moment might help |
| 19:54.05 | craigevil | quiritius: take a look at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=53036 |
| 19:54.10 | quiritius | linduxed: i tried all that. doesn't work. i tried chrome, the same issue. another 32-bit system works fine. |
| 19:55.04 | fxiny | quiritius: iceweasel version ? |
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| 19:55.22 | quiritius | fxiny: 3.5.10. it is squeeze. |
| 19:55.44 | quiritius | craigevil: thanks! will be reading this. |
| 19:55.54 | fxiny | no automatic flash block then |
| 19:56.02 | fxiny | or plugins |
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| 19:57.58 | quiritius | fxiny: no, i switched off everything. if i purge all flash/gnash-related packages and install libflashplayer.so manually (there is an old 64-bit beta version) then icewealsel crashes on that site, while chrome just doesn't play the video., |
| 19:59.09 | fxiny | lemme check the site with the mozilla disable nasty flash feature |
| 20:00.15 | jordanm | !flash |
| 20:00.15 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations, ask about <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
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| 20:00.22 | jordanm | quiritius: you should follow the debian instructions |
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| 20:02.58 | quiritius | jordanm: the chroot one? i already began that but stuck on locale not being set. will do some more reading :) |
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| 20:06.52 | fxiny | quiritius: checked it with 3.6.6 which has the crash protection feature , and it works |
| 20:09.43 | quiritius | fxiny: ah! and how do it install that version for squeeze? it works with 32-bit or manually installed 64-bit? |
| 20:09.52 | fxiny | quiritius: nope |
| 20:10.22 | fxiny | quiritius: i just checked it to see if it triggers a crash |
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| 20:10.41 | fxiny | stay with debian versions |
| 20:13.45 | fxiny | quiritius: maybe use the flash block adds on . so you can browse without flash crashing iceweasel |
| 20:16.08 | quiritius | fxiny: no, no, that's not an issue. the plugin is installed and my problem is only that i cannot watch the videos (love that thedailyshow :). |
| 20:16.42 | fxiny | just that site ? |
| 20:17.02 | craigevil | quiritius: dont feel bad none of the videos play here either, |
| 20:17.09 | craigevil | Error loading stylesheet. RSL http://media.mtvnservices.com/global/flex/rsl/framework_3.2.0.3958.swz failed to load. Error #2046 |
| 20:17.36 | craigevil | thats what i get on the dailyshow site using any browser, firefox 3.6.6, iceweasel, chrome, opera |
| 20:18.31 | quiritius | fxiny: i do not watch much. at the moment it is just this site, but it is not right that something does not work. just want to fix it. ) |
| 20:18.37 | fxiny | it works on my PII lenny bpo kernel |
| 20:19.40 | quiritius | craigevil: i have another box with nearly identical install, but i386 and it works, iceweasel 3.5.10, 32 bit. |
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| 20:20.14 | fxiny | lemme check a standard kernel and a powerful box |
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| 20:24.12 | fxiny | it works very well with mozilla 3.6.6 or debian official iceweasel |
| 20:24.31 | fxiny | is not iceweasel or the kernel , both are debian |
| 20:25.34 | fxiny | must be some squeezed up banana |
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| 20:26.20 | quiritius | fxiny: do you have sid then? |
| 20:26.43 | quiritius | amd64? |
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| 20:27.21 | fxiny | nope , i have only a bpo kernel on this old slow box , checking things for the upgrade to squeeze |
| 20:27.33 | mogglefrange | Hi. I'd like to be able to print from the command line. I've configured cups successfully and set a default printer. I can print from epdfview. I cannot print using lpr from a shell. I am on debian lenny. |
| 20:28.31 | jordanm | mogglefrange: I have always used "lp", not "lpr". try: echo 'testing' | lp -d <printer name> |
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| 20:28.46 | unfancy | hi |
| 20:28.53 | unfancy | when i boot into single user mode i get no root shell :( |
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| 20:29.03 | jordanm | what do you get? |
| 20:29.15 | unfancy | the only thing different is that it's asking me "give root pwd for maintenance or ^D to continue" :( |
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| 20:29.29 | mogglefrange | jordanm: is there a way to list printers on the command line? I don't know the printer name. If there isn't I'll grab the name from cups web interface |
| 20:29.35 | nkuttler | unfancy: well then enter the root password |
| 20:29.44 | jordanm | unfancy: yes, and it gives a root shell after you provide the password. are you wanting to reset a lost root password? |
| 20:29.48 | unfancy | nkuttler: i booted into single user mode because....? :P |
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| 20:29.57 | unfancy | jordanm: yes.- |
| 20:30.01 | nkuttler | !tell unfancy about i forgot root's password |
| 20:30.05 | jordanm | mogglefrange: lpstat -s |
| 20:30.13 | unfancy | that`s how i always did it |
| 20:30.13 | fxiny | quiritius: 64 ? nahh : a PII running lenny on a 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 kernel |
| 20:30.27 | unfancy | LOLLLL |
| 20:30.33 | unfancy | init=/bin/sh ? :o |
| 20:30.42 | unfancy | thx a bunch jordanm |
| 20:30.47 | unfancy | uhrm nkuttler too :D |
| 20:30.59 | quiritius | fxiny: hm, i just wonder... maybe migrate to 32bit (2Gb RAM, core2duo)? will probably not see any difference. it just feels silly to do it just because of flash. |
| 20:31.00 | mogglefrange | jordanm: oh! huh. I get: request id is hp_color_LaserJet_4600_138.110.3.55-7 (1 file(s)) |
| 20:31.02 | jordanm | unfancy: I was getting to it, but nkuttler was faster :) |
| 20:31.04 | mogglefrange | and it starts printing. |
| 20:31.30 | fxiny | quiritius: exactly : flash sucks |
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| 20:31.50 | jordanm | mogglefrange: you should get something like: device for Hall: lpd://10.10.10.149/dlink1 where "Hall" is the printer name |
| 20:32.10 | mogglefrange | yes. |
| 20:32.33 | jordanm | mogglefrange: pastebin your output of lpstat -s |
| 20:32.36 | mogglefrange | maybe I just haven't set the default right for the cli tools? also I was using lpr instead of lp |
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| 20:33.37 | mogglefrange | http://paste.lisp.org/+2EUK |
| 20:33.53 | mogglefrange | the one at the bottom of the list is set as default for cups |
| 20:35.04 | fxiny | quiritius: try iceweasel --safe-mode |
| 20:35.29 | prince_jammys | mind telling me the permissions of /var/log/messages in debian, please? |
| 20:35.35 | fxiny | just checked flash works in --safe-mode |
| 20:35.55 | jordanm | mogglefrange: not sure I ever saw a printer setup with a socket:// address... some type of built-in print server? |
| 20:36.06 | jordanm | mogglefrange: try: echo 'testing' | lp -d hp_color_LaserJet_4600_138.110.3.55 |
| 20:36.30 | fxiny | quiritius: and it spits some messages on the term |
| 20:36.32 | mogglefrange | jordanm: works fine :-) I get a printout with "testing" written on it |
| 20:36.46 | jordanm | mogglefrange: excellent :) |
| 20:37.03 | mogglefrange | I just didn't know enough to use lp instead of lpr. thanks |
| 20:37.11 | jordanm | mogglefrange: you might consider renaming it to something easier to remember and type |
| 20:37.21 | prince_jammys | you can set and export PRINTER in your profile |
| 20:37.45 | zebradog | mogglefrange, i just use cups' web interface to set up printing.. so easy, at least on my lucky watch |
| 20:38.08 | prince_jammys | export PRINTER=hp_blah_blah in whatever file you use as your shell profile |
| 20:38.15 | mogglefrange | prince_jammys: oh, nice |
| 20:38.36 | mogglefrange | zebradog: yeah, I used cups too. my x11 apps worked fine, but I wanted a shell command |
| 20:38.40 | prince_jammys | mind doing a ls -l /var/log/messages and telling me permissions? |
| 20:38.45 | jordanm | prince_jammys: and then you print with just `lp`? |
| 20:38.51 | prince_jammys | jordanm: i believe so |
| 20:39.02 | quiritius | fxiny: no change: it just won't play. the errors are here http://www.pastebin.org/400273 though. |
| 20:39.26 | moldovean | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 201675 2010-07-16 20:35 /var/log/messages |
| 20:39.26 | zebradog | mogglefrange, shell is hell for printing setup.. i never got around enough to fiddle with lpr/lp craziness with the likelyness of samba |
| 20:39.34 | prince_jammys | moldovean: thanks |
| 20:39.39 | moldovean | np |
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| 20:40.06 | jordanm | mogglefrange: at my work, we have a setup for a legacy system, where we have scripts for each printer, placed in the path. so we have /usr/local/bin/lpt1 which contains lp -d lpt1 -s. this way it can be used simply with echo foo | lpt1 |
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| 20:40.26 | fxiny | quiritius: that info could be useful |
| 20:40.29 | jordanm | an alias or function could accomplish similar |
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| 20:40.38 | zebradog | thinks cups web interface is sort of midway half to full decent.. |
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| 20:41.55 | jordanm | cups web interface is somewhat nice, but it is a pain having a seperate port and protocol for managing one service, and another (ssh) for the rest |
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| 20:41.58 | JordiGH | Whoa, time-based release on a 2 year cycle? I can't believe I missed that announcement. |
| 20:42.21 | jordanm | JordiGH: well, its already out the window, so you can ignore it |
| 20:42.34 | JordiGH | jordanm: Haha. |
| 20:42.36 | quiritius | fxiny: yes, but to me it is not much help, except that there is something wrong with wrapper. |
| 20:42.43 | jordanm | and IIRC, it was just going to be timed freezes. |
| 20:42.45 | JordiGH | Yeah, squeeze should have frozen in December. |
| 20:42.46 | JordiGH | Haha. |
| 20:42.59 | fxiny | quiritius: and some gtk |
| 20:43.01 | jordanm | JordiGH: that was the plan... up until december too :) |
| 20:43.05 | JordiGH | jordanm: Where was it thrown out the Window? I need to update Wikipedia. |
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| 20:43.18 | jordanm | JordiGH: I am just saying, it didn't happen |
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| 20:43.25 | fxiny | quiritius: i believe it will be fixed |
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| 20:44.03 | jordanm | JordiGH: I believe regardless of any kind of schedule, debian will not release before its ready, unlike some other distros |
| 20:44.18 | quiritius | fxiny: hope so. |
| 20:44.21 | jhutchins_lt | Actually, the announcmenet I saw said Squeeze would be an exception, but it certainly seems like the policy is going to be ignored. |
| 20:45.13 | JordiGH | jhutchins_lt: No, the announcement says squeeze should have frozen in December. |
| 20:45.34 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: Ok, great. |
| 20:45.54 | JordiGH | Oh, here is the "never mind" announcement: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090730 |
| 20:45.59 | zebradog | seems that debian will never be released on a yearly basis |
| 20:46.06 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: I have no problem with target dates, but I saw a distro pretty much go down in smoke because it did three unusable releases just to "keep up" with Ubuntu. |
| 20:46.07 | zebradog | but that's good, more testing the better |
| 20:46.23 | JordiGH | jhutchins_lt: Aw, that's sad. Which one? |
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| 20:47.00 | Huer | hello |
| 20:47.02 | Huer | question |
| 20:47.18 | Huer | You have pacman for arch, yum for fedora.. what is the installer for Debian? |
| 20:47.19 | fxiny | to some users like me WIR can't be erased from this stinking planet |
| 20:47.31 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: An early fork of RH. |
| 20:47.50 | JordiGH | Huer: aptitude |
| 20:47.56 | Huer | k |
| 20:48.21 | Huer | oh wow... that's not what I'm used to |
| 20:48.29 | JordiGH | Huer: Note: "debian installer" is actually the program that removes Microsoft Windows from your machine and puts Debian there instead. ;-) |
| 20:48.42 | moldovean | +1 |
| 20:49.09 | JordiGH | Huer: "aptitude install emacs" |
| 20:49.18 | jordanm | JordiGH: in my case, s/Microsoft Windows/gentoo/ |
| 20:49.27 | zebradog | Huer, apt-get apt-cache, aptitude, dselect, synaptic (gui) , see the manpages's section 'SEE ALSO' |
| 20:49.44 | zebradog | Huer, apropos apt or apropos dpkg << lists others as well |
| 20:49.47 | JordiGH | Why is dselect still in the archives? :-/ |
| 20:49.50 | jordanm | zebradog: there is also aptitude-gtk gui in testing now |
| 20:49.52 | zebradog | (for developing packags etc) |
| 20:50.08 | zebradog | jordanm, interesting |
| 20:50.37 | zebradog | jordanm, i tend to go to tty1 without fear of any X strangeness.. for light stuff i do it in xterm |
| 20:50.40 | JordiGH | It looks like the GTK thing still needs a lot of work, though. It reproduces maybe half of the ncurses GUI. |
| 20:51.03 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: Because plenty of people still use it; Debian thrives on variety. |
| 20:51.05 | jordanm | JordiGH: I have only tried to use it twice, and the first time it was 100% unusable for me |
| 20:51.37 | jordanm | the next time was not so bad... it definatly needs the elevate to root feature of the curses interface |
| 20:52.13 | magicCarpet | Hi all, does anyone where debian-installer looks for kernel modules? I am getting a "No kernel modules were found" when d-i is going through "load installer components from CD" stage |
| 20:52.32 | magicCarpet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.34 | fxiny | JordiGH: dselect made history , i still like it , i'd rather remove nano and all nanoids |
| 20:52.51 | fxiny | who use 'em ? |
| 20:52.58 | moldovean | mr |
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| 20:53.03 | moldovean | me* |
| 20:54.14 | fxiny | because someone tricked you into using it ? |
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| 20:54.23 | jordanm | nano... I mean who really needs kill and yank (/cut and paste) in a text editor.... |
| 20:54.47 | magicCarpet | where do I get the source code for debian-installer ? |
| 20:55.18 | jordanm | magicCarpet: apt-get source debian-installer, or packages.debian.org |
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| 20:55.37 | magicCarpet | jordanm: thanks |
| 20:56.38 | jelly-home | magicCarpet: also, /msg dpkg d-i, visit the devel page and its wiki |
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| 20:59.30 | Huer | ok... atheros 5 series... is this going to be a problem? |
| 20:59.50 | moldovean | !ath5k |
| 20:59.50 | dpkg | [ath5k] a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 802.11a/bg PCI wireless LAN chipsets. Included in Debian kernels since 2.6.24. See http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k for more information and supported devices. For AR5007* devices, ask me about <ar2425>. For 802.11n device support, ask me about <ath9k>. See also <backports.org>. |
| 21:00.11 | JordiGH | No blob either in ath5k? |
| 21:00.24 | JordiGH | This iwlwifi blob makes me itchy. |
| 21:02.12 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: Wha? vi. |
| 21:02.36 | JordiGH | !info firmware-iwlwifi |
| 21:03.04 | dpkg | firmware-iwlwifi: (Binary firmware for Intel Wireless 3945, 4965 and 5000-series cards), section non-free/kernel, is optional. Version: 0.26 (sid), Packaged size: 1395 kB, Installed size: 2960 kB |
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| 21:04.05 | JordiGH | I'll buy atheros next time if I can use it without blobs. |
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| 21:05.40 | moldovean | what's blobs ? |
| 21:06.04 | judgen | How do people live with win32api.. And also the win manager.. I can run a d2d app (at reduced speed ofcourse) in wine but it is still better. |
| 21:06.07 | JordiGH | !blob |
| 21:06.07 | dpkg | blob is probably a data type used in a relational database that can contain any type of binary data, including sound,video, graphics, etc. or a closed-source binary only driver that may not work properly or expose security threats that the community cannot fix. See: http://www.techspot.com/news/23217-nvidia-binary-linux-drivers-security-exploit.html |
| 21:06.39 | judgen | my point beeing that wine is surely getting better |
| 21:06.54 | jhutchins_lt | Also used to describe binary packages that are not transparent, such as proprietary firmware files. |
| 21:07.11 | moldovean | ths |
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| 21:07.58 | jelly-home | judgen: "people" typically do not touch or care about such things as APIs |
| 21:08.07 | jelly-home | only developers do |
| 21:08.18 | jelly-home | no, they're not people |
| 21:08.24 | fxiny | better ? policy wine : Installed: 0.0.20041019-1 , i had enough of editing , i keep that version |
| 21:08.28 | judgen | jelly-home: most people isnt devs |
| 21:08.34 | jelly-home | judgen: exactly |
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| 21:09.10 | judgen | jelly-home: so i care... sorry if i have waed your time |
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| 21:09.25 | judgen | waaaasted* |
| 21:09.30 | judgen | wow |
| 21:09.38 | judgen | i am drunker than usual' |
| 21:10.14 | jelly-home | judgen: then waaaasted seems like an appropriate description! |
| 21:10.34 | judgen | you can k+b me if you want, i did not mean to. |
| 21:11.31 | jelly-home | thankfully I'm neither an op not that trigger happy |
| 21:11.41 | judgen | I think the issssue of excessive A's is due to me not using a IBM-M series ass i am used to. |
| 21:11.46 | judgen | and i am sorry |
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| 21:12.13 | judgen | No definite response |
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| 21:13.35 | fxiny | judgen: you mean a keyboard ? i have an IBM clone here : olivetti ank 27-102-n |
| 21:14.19 | fxiny | no windoze keys ;P |
| 21:14.34 | judgen | My 1986M is still full of grog and only one key does not work. My 84 M series works perfectly but some retards decided to change <meta> from alt to super.. and it pisses me off. |
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| 21:15.09 | fxiny | mine weights half a ton |
| 21:15.37 | judgen | Wow.. i took out some frustration on you. That was not my intention |
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| 21:18.01 | tapper | hi, has anyone had VLC's video stop working after adding the debian-multimedia repo? |
| 21:18.48 | rookie2010 | how i can use crontab which every 30 minutes diary execute commands |
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| 21:22.40 | nsadmin | or 0,30 or 15,45 |
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| 21:23.15 | tapper | I can't believe because I added one program, Handbrake, now VLC from the stable branch won't work |
| 21:23.17 | tapper | oy ve |
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| 21:24.50 | nsadmin | how do you know that relation exists? |
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| 21:26.22 | nsadmin | oic, you like to complain more than respond |
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| 21:30.23 | fxiny | can't be a bayesian probability , looks more like aruspice reading |
| 21:31.28 | tapper | nsadmin: sorry, wife talking in my ear. Have a look on-line, I've found 5 references to people saying ffmpeg from unstable stops the video in VLC working |
| 21:32.13 | tapper | compiling from source for a 0.9* version of VLC gets the video working again, but now I've got now sound |
| 21:32.23 | jelly-home | also, ffmpeg from d-m differs from the one in Debian |
| 21:33.15 | nsadmin | unstable? what are you actually running? |
| 21:33.42 | tapper | ok sorry, am running Deb 5.05 with the debian-multimedia repo added in sources list |
| 21:33.51 | tapper | I needed that to get Handbrake going |
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| 21:34.08 | tapper | but that killed VLC (default)'s video |
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| 21:34.43 | nsadmin | ok, let me make sure I understand... so your complaint is: "When I install something from unstable when I'me running stable, something stops working" |
| 21:34.48 | nsadmin | do I have that right? |
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| 21:35.08 | tapper | yeah, yeah, I know we get warned about that stuff |
| 21:35.21 | nsadmin | so why are you complainging? |
| 21:35.42 | tapper | because I just want Handbrake and VLC to work on my Debian PC *cries* |
| 21:37.50 | tapper | resigns himself to googling some more, or using Win7 |
| 21:38.35 | jelly-home | tapper: wait, did you install a binary package from unstable onto an installation of debian lenny? That doesn't end well. |
| 21:38.53 | jelly-home | ,versions handbrake |
| 21:38.54 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'handbrake' was found. |
| 21:39.15 | fxiny | cli or gtk |
| 21:39.19 | fxiny | add that |
| 21:39.20 | jelly-home | tapper: where did the handbrake package come from. |
| 21:39.28 | jelly-home | ,versions handbrake-gtk |
| 21:39.29 | judd | handbrake-gtk -- lenny-multimedia: 0.9.3-0.1; sid-multimedia: 0.9.4+svn20100705-0.0; squeeze-multimedia: 0.9.4+svn20100705-0.0 |
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| 21:41.00 | tapper | jelly : are you recommending handbrake-gtk? |
| 21:41.01 | nsadmin | there is one meant for lenny |
| 21:41.32 | jelly-home | tapper: no. I'm asking which repo exactly did you enable and which package did you install. |
| 21:41.47 | tapper | debian-multimedia |
| 21:42.17 | jelly-home | tapper: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy whateverpackageyouinstalled" and dpkg -l libc6 whateverpackageyouinstalled | tail -2, please |
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| 21:43.50 | tapper | ok, booting up something |
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| 21:49.23 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 21:50.52 | cloudy_nz | oh darn, I can't remember that pastebin thing |
| 21:51.10 | cloudy_nz | Handbrake-cli is 0.9.3-0.1 0 |
| 21:51.28 | cloudy_nz | handbrake-gtk is 0.9.3-0.1 0 |
| 21:51.59 | jordanm | cloudy_nz: /msg dpkg paste |
| 21:53.03 | nsadmin | cloudy_nz, in this particular case you could try aptitude install pastebinit |
| 21:53.14 | jordanm | unless you run lenny.... |
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| 21:53.34 | jelly-home | suspects cloudy_nz == tapper |
| 21:53.42 | nsadmin | oh, in which case you could install the perl module App::Nopaste |
| 21:53.47 | jelly-home | cloudy_nz: and libc6? |
| 21:53.56 | jordanm | !wgetpaste |
| 21:53.56 | dpkg | wget http://wgetpaste.zlin.dk/wgetpaste-2.17.tar.bz2 && tar xvjf wgetpaste-2.17.tar.bz2 && cd wgetpaste-2.17 you can then use it with ./wgetpaste; e.g. dmesg | ./wgetpaste |
| 21:54.00 | jelly-home | also, http://ix.no/ |
| 21:54.06 | jelly-home | er. ix.io |
| 21:55.32 | cloudy_nz | apt-cache search libc6 |
| 21:55.39 | cloudy_nz | oops wrong window |
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| 21:57.02 | cloudy_nz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.02 | cloudy_nz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.02 | cloudy_nz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.02 | cloudy_nz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:58.18 | nsadmin | yeah, and I didn't really like the emotional troll at the beginning of this either |
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| 21:59.39 | jordanm | I wasn't around for the start, but I would think he would know not to paste in the channel, right after having a paste discussion |
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| 21:59.50 | jelly-home | cloudy_nz: alright. This means you used the correct d-m repo for lenny, so you don't have ffmpeg from unstable. But yes, you might have gotten bits of newer ffmpeg. |
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| 21:59.52 | cloudy_nz | oops |
| 22:00.29 | nsadmin | there's a lot of things he knew at the beginning that would have made this little interaction less stressful |
| 22:00.36 | jelly-home | cloudy_nz: d-m has newer ffmpeg and lots of other stuff, and has been known to break vlc |
| 22:01.11 | jelly-home | cloudy_nz: unfortunately I don't have an instant remedy; vlc in lenny is rather old |
| 22:01.33 | cloudy_nz | what's weird is my Totem is going fine |
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| 22:02.04 | craigevil | totem uses gstreamer, vlc uses the various ffmpeg libs |
| 22:02.08 | jelly-home | cloudy_nz: perhaps doing a backport of vlc might work; then again it might be a hard app to backport. /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 22:03.56 | drith | can someone explain to me why always the channels in master and pcm are always unlocked event though i set the to lock? |
| 22:04.10 | drith | This is in the volume control of gnome. |
| 22:04.19 | drith | Any idea will be appreciated |
| 22:04.20 | drith | . |
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| 22:06.10 | cloudy_nz | drith, watch out or you'll get called an "emotional troll", lol |
| 22:06.57 | drith | can you give me a solution which is not emotional |
| 22:06.58 | jelly-home | cloudy_nz: it's not easy being a vulcan troll you know. |
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| 22:08.52 | drith | this is very helpful |
| 22:08.58 | nsadmin | maybe I should have called you that... but I actually referred to one action you did as being an emotional trolling act |
| 22:09.53 | cloudy_nz | right, thanks for your help, guys. I am going to use Totem and Handbrake, and forget VLC for the mo |
| 22:10.29 | cloudy_nz | maybe when my Debian chops are better I'll have another go |
| 22:10.29 | nsadmin | when you said "oy ve", this communicated disgust (incorrectly) aimed at the software you were installing |
| 22:10.37 | nsadmin | in my opinion, you should have "/msg topper oy ve" |
| 22:10.54 | jordanm | topper? |
| 22:11.09 | tapper | sorry, now I'm leaving |
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| 22:11.15 | drith | what is the f***** problem? I am just asking a question and you are threaten me with some stupid stuff... |
| 22:11.43 | nsadmin | additionally, if you were up front about installing from unstable as opposed to having someone drag it out of you, that would have also made things less stressful |
| 22:11.54 | nsadmin | drith: none of this is aimed at you |
| 22:12.19 | jordanm | drith: you were never threatened. another user was apparently just upset they were called a troll ealier. I did not see and am still too lazy to /lastlog |
| 22:12.56 | drith | nsadmin, good. Now can someone be nice and suggest a solution to my stupid problem? |
| 22:13.22 | drith | jordanm, thanks for your explanation. |
| 22:14.27 | nsadmin | he probably wasn't all that upset, having expected the channel temp to rise |
| 22:15.22 | jordanm | drith: my only suggestion would be to check the bts |
| 22:15.42 | nsadmin | so, as for myself I'm unfamiliar with gnome's part in the sound mixer thing... not sure what gnome's locking accomplishes |
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| 22:15.50 | jordanm | i don't even have a clue what volume locking is |
| 22:16.03 | nsadmin | or what it's meant to accomplish |
| 22:16.17 | jordanm | I assume it means you can't change it... but its not that something easily changed by accident |
| 22:16.17 | g0rd0n | is there any logical explanation as to why, as root, i would get such an error: chmod: changing permissions of `php5.fcgi': Operation not permitted ? |
| 22:16.28 | drith | nsadmin, when you have to channels to say left and right you can adjust them independently or locked. |
| 22:16.37 | jordanm | g0rd0n: the filesystem doesn't support UNIX permissions |
| 22:16.41 | jordanm | guess 1 |
| 22:16.45 | g0rd0n | ext3 |
| 22:17.02 | nsadmin | oh, you mean they move in tandem |
| 22:17.09 | jordanm | g0rd0n: paste its line from the output of "mount" |
| 22:17.35 | jordanm | drith: yeah, bts |
| 22:17.47 | drith | what is bts? |
| 22:17.48 | g0rd0n | jordanm: /dev/md1 on / type ext3 (rw,grpquota,usrquota) |
| 22:17.54 | jordanm | !tell drith about bts |
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| 22:18.31 | drith | jordanm, thanks |
| 22:18.53 | drith | I just wanted to know if someone else has experienced it. |
| 22:19.16 | nsadmin | that's what the bts is for :) |
| 22:19.31 | drith | I prefer human being... |
| 22:19.39 | jordanm | g0rd0n: dmesg | tail |
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| 22:19.59 | jordanm | drith: the bts is pretty much an organized mailing list. they are humans |
| 22:20.10 | nsadmin | understood, so that's going to necessitate someone other than you checking the bts :) |
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| 22:20.26 | g0rd0n | jordanm: nothing, just some firewall logs |
| 22:20.46 | jordanm | g0rd0n: selinux or grsecurity? |
| 22:21.05 | g0rd0n | jordanm: nope |
| 22:21.26 | g0rd0n | just the plain 2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64 kernel |
| 22:21.46 | jordanm | g0rd0n: is this the host or one of the guests? |
| 22:21.51 | g0rd0n | host |
| 22:22.29 | jordanm | g0rd0n: is that file inside of one of those containers? |
| 22:22.39 | g0rd0n | that file is not owned by root, but chmod 0755 |
| 22:22.44 | g0rd0n | no, all on host |
| 22:22.45 | drith | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/264108 |
| 22:22.49 | drith | i find it! |
| 22:23.16 | magicCarpet | is there a different channel to discuss debian-boot issue? |
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| 22:24.34 | jordanm | drith: are you sure thats not specific to ubuntu? |
| 22:24.57 | jordanm | well, I guess not if you are also having it |
| 22:25.30 | jordanm | g0rd0n: what command are you giving it exactly? |
| 22:25.31 | drith | the same is with me |
| 22:25.36 | jordanm | are you trying to setuid it or something? |
| 22:25.42 | jordanm | drith: are you on lenny? |
| 22:25.48 | drith | no testing |
| 22:25.58 | g0rd0n | jordanm: not even editing the file works, i can not write to the file |
| 22:26.05 | drith | squeeze |
| 22:26.33 | g0rd0n | jordanm: i have several files named like this and they all exhibit the same problem |
| 22:27.11 | g0rd0n | basically all located in /home/*/fcgi-bin/php5.fcgi |
| 22:28.13 | jordanm | drith: make sure its reported in debian, if not use the "reportbug" tool. I suggest running it without options first |
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| 22:30.20 | jordanm | g0rd0n: how did those files get there? |
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| 22:31.12 | g0rd0n | jordanm: they are part of virtualmin's php configuration for my virtual hosts, so they were generated by virtualmin |
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| 22:31.28 | extor | If a Phenom II with four cores is called a quadcore CPU then will a Phenom II with six cores be called a sexcore CPU or is that wrong? |
| 22:31.33 | jordanm | !webmin |
| 22:31.33 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://bugs.debian.org/343897 about the removal from Debian. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 22:31.55 | jordanm | g0rd0n: what are the current permissions? 000? |
| 22:32.03 | g0rd0n | extor: sadly it is wrong, it's called hexacore |
| 22:32.11 | g0rd0n | jordanm: 0755 |
| 22:32.17 | extor | Isnt hex base 16 |
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| 22:32.43 | nsadmin | hexadecimal is base 16 |
| 22:32.46 | jordanm | g0rd0n: sorry, I missed where you said earlier when I looked up that bug |
| 22:32.49 | g0rd0n | wow, somebody here hating webmin? :) |
| 22:33.53 | drith | But just to be clear i f**** love debian. |
| 22:34.01 | jordanm | g0rd0n: can you read it? |
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| 22:35.02 | g0rd0n | jordanm: read what, the bug report? |
| 22:35.19 | jordanm | g0rd0n: the file |
| 22:35.25 | g0rd0n | lol |
| 22:35.27 | g0rd0n | yes, i can read the file |
| 22:35.49 | nsadmin | it might be helpful to see an ls -l on one of these files |
| 22:36.25 | jordanm | -al on the dir |
| 22:36.27 | g0rd0n | -rwxr-xr-x 1 foo.tld foo.tld 208 Oct 1 2009 php5.fcgi |
| 22:36.36 | jpinx-eeepc | bets it's been chnaged to ro |
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| 22:37.02 | jordanm | jpinx-eeepc: that was the first thing I checked... |
| 22:37.09 | nsadmin | so owned by foo.tld and in the group foo.tld |
| 22:37.33 | jordanm | actually, it was the 2nd, i first check to make sure it accepted unix perms |
| 22:37.47 | jordanm | g0rd0n: echo $UID |
| 22:37.49 | g0rd0n | exactly |
| 22:37.59 | g0rd0n | jordanm: 0 |
| 22:38.09 | jpinx-eeepc | webmin / virtualmin is famous for doing very dodgy stuff as root |
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| 22:40.33 | jordanm | g0rd0n: sleep 30 & cat /proc/$(pgrep sleep)/status |
| 22:40.41 | g0rd0n | jpinx-eeepc: actually i've always been quite happy with webmin/virtualmin... not intrusive at all imho, unlike some other whcp like plesk :P |
| 22:40.59 | jordanm | ehh, that expansion should be quoted... but it will fail if there are more than one sleep anyways |
| 22:41.17 | g0rd0n | jordanm: want me to pastebin the output? |
| 22:41.18 | g0rd0n | what expansion |
| 22:41.22 | jordanm | g0rd0n: yes |
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| 22:41.31 | jordanm | g0rd0n: "$(prgep sleep) |
| 22:41.39 | jordanm | fails at quoting today |
| 22:42.49 | g0rd0n | jordanm: http://pastebin.com/Tpww7Ezv |
| 22:43.07 | jpinx-eeepc | g0rd0n: are there any "odd" characters in the filename? |
| 22:43.42 | g0rd0n | jpinx-eeepc: nope, just a normal text file... starts with #!/bin/bash |
| 22:44.26 | jordanm | g0rd0n: well, thats it for me. if no one else comes up with any ideas, I suggest the mailing list |
| 22:44.34 | jordanm | and never using webmin :) |
| 22:44.37 | jpinx-eeepc | g0rd0n: tried backing it up and renaming it? |
| 22:44.54 | g0rd0n | renaming does not work either |
| 22:45.09 | jpinx-eeepc | !doesn't work |
| 22:45.09 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
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| 22:45.31 | g0rd0n | same error, permission denied |
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| 22:45.41 | Stmeter | ##php told me that I have a problem with mysql and php extension since I get: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_escape_string() |
| 22:45.49 | jordanm | permission denied was not the orginal error, it was operation not permitted |
| 22:45.55 | g0rd0n | right |
| 22:46.00 | g0rd0n | i meant operation not permitted :) |
| 22:46.10 | simonrvn | ... |
| 22:46.18 | jpinx-eeepc | g0rd0n: pastebin the original problem and error |
| 22:47.10 | g0rd0n | mv: cannot move `php5.fcgi' to `php5.fcgi.foo': Operation not permitted (as root) |
| 22:47.12 | jordanm | I am placing my bet on unknown selinux installation... and activation :\ |
| 22:47.23 | g0rd0n | lol selinux |
| 22:47.27 | g0rd0n | must have been drunk |
| 22:47.31 | themill | or chattr +i on the file or directory |
| 22:47.41 | g0rd0n | how can i tell if i have selinux, i dont remember installing that ever |
| 22:47.47 | jordanm | didn't think of chattr |
| 22:47.52 | g0rd0n | chattr |
| 22:48.00 | g0rd0n | what does +i do |
| 22:48.03 | jordanm | g0rd0n: you would have /selinux dir |
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| 22:48.15 | themill | g0rd0n: chattr is what we do in #debian-offtopic |
| 22:48.23 | g0rd0n | jordanm: i have, but it is empty |
| 22:48.29 | simonrvn | themill: heh |
| 22:48.54 | jpinx-eeepc | wow webmin *and* selinux :) |
| 22:49.03 | peta | i'm piping in the bash some commands together so that at the end every line of my stream contains a PID. but when i want to pipe that result into (just) `kill` it doesn't work. where could be the problem? my command: ps -A | grep 'python' | sed 's/\([0-9]*\).*/\1/' | kill |
| 22:49.23 | lindi- | peta: kill does not read input from stdin. |
| 22:49.25 | g0rd0n | ok ill try -i :P |
| 22:49.43 | g0rd0n | lol that's it |
| 22:50.23 | themill | peta: a few things... pkill exists for a reason; as does xargs. |
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| 22:53.24 | bookmark | hiya |
| 22:53.49 | bookmark | i was wondering, does anyone know if there is a way to make xwindows run without having logged in to my command console? |
| 22:54.02 | bookmark | gerneally i log into my command console and then type startx |
| 22:54.29 | bookmark | could i just put it in inittab or something? |
| 22:54.31 | sweetpi | bookmark: gdm? |
| 22:54.40 | bookmark | no i only use evilwm |
| 22:54.42 | dcbevins | add it to the startup in the right place, is this straight debian with gnome? |
| 22:54.43 | bookmark | no gdm at all |
| 22:54.56 | sweetpi | ok xdm :) |
| 22:55.00 | bookmark | i only used the netinstall |
| 22:55.09 | bookmark | no desktop at first |
| 22:55.12 | dcbevins | i like slim |
| 22:55.18 | jordanm | bookmark: display managers such as gdm can do auto-login |
| 22:55.33 | bookmark | yeah if you take the cat5 out while it installs the base, you get it at 120megs |
| 22:55.35 | bookmark | : D |
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| 22:56.02 | bookmark | but you can break out of those i think? |
| 22:56.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | *sigh* |
| 22:56.09 | bookmark | and then you would be at a console? |
| 22:56.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | can one change limits on a running process, btw? |
| 22:56.18 | bookmark | well see i don't want a user to get to a console |
| 22:56.28 | simonrvn | no cmot |
| 22:56.43 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: you can use 'nice' |
| 22:56.59 | simonrvn | that's nice, not limits |
| 22:56.59 | bookmark | hmm i guess you'd need to be at a super user console to break out of gdm hmm |
| 22:57.03 | bookmark | maybe that would work |
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| 22:57.07 | dcbevins | not sure what you mean, do you want x to start automaticaly, or just a console, or x starts, then opens a console? |
| 22:57.11 | bookmark | but i think it would be easier to just run x windows |
| 22:57.14 | jordanm | yes, its not limits, but it atleast lowers its priority |
| 22:57.20 | simonrvn | bookmark: it's called cltrl-alt-fXX |
| 22:57.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | X just crashed again... I suspect it was the (very reasonable) limit of 800000 on data seg size I set... |
| 22:57.23 | bookmark | maybe run X in a "screen" or something? |
| 22:57.35 | bookmark | right.. |
| 22:57.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well... too lazy to log out againn |
| 22:57.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, thx... weird, though |
| 22:57.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | you'd think that's possible |
| 22:57.59 | bookmark | but where would i put the command to run X in a screen |
| 22:58.01 | bookmark | inittab? |
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| 22:58.14 | jordanm | bookmark: no |
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| 22:58.28 | simonrvn | bookmark: dms don't prevent console switching. you have to turn it on/off in x (defaults to off in recent xrg) |
| 22:58.37 | jordanm | bookmark: if you want X to start at boot, install a display manager. |
| 22:58.42 | bookmark | thanks for the help.. |
| 22:58.43 | bookmark | bye |
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| 22:59.01 | dcbevins | so you just want the gui running and when it starts a console pops up, add a seesion manager, set auto login, put your fav terminal in a executable script in /home/usersessionmangeruses/startup (maybe .startup) |
| 22:59.14 | simonrvn | left already |
| 22:59.49 | jordanm | thinks he didn't like the answer |
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| 23:00.03 | simonrvn | probably |
| 23:00.18 | dcbevins | always free cheese in the moustrap |
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| 23:00.38 | simonrvn | seems to have wanted to use inittab (for frivolous reasons) |
| 23:00.56 | jordanm | former RH user maybe |
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| 23:06.52 | peta | lindi-, themill: thanks ... didn't know of pgrep/pkill/xargs |
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| 23:07.22 | themill | peta: no worries -- happy hunting |
| 23:07.22 | sam113101 | zkoo you there |
| 23:10.28 | peta | haaaha ... xargs is awesome!!! |
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| 23:19.25 | zkoo | sam113101: sorta |
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| 23:21.50 | kunwon1 | msg dpkg realtime kernel |
| 23:21.52 | kunwon1 | :o |
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| 23:29.54 | krisfremen | hmmm.. i got stuff working in a jailed chroot.. but resolving of domains won't work.. what am i missing? |
| 23:30.26 | tharkun | check that you have inside your chroot a copy of /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 23:35.06 | sam113101 | it says |
| 23:35.30 | sam113101 | Size 1024x768 not found in available modes |
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| 23:37.02 | Empis | hello, is there any way to see net-connections live? |
| 23:37.15 | streuner | iptraf? |
| 23:37.15 | Empis | protocol, port, dest/src e.tc |
| 23:37.30 | streuner | dpkg, info iptraf |
| 23:37.53 | dpkg | iptraf: (Interactive Colorful IP LAN Monitor), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.0-7 (sid), Packaged size: 160 kB, Installed size: 724 kB |
| 23:39.02 | Empis | doh, my sourcelist is broken |
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| 23:44.41 | Empis | streuner: hmm, it doesn't take UDP |
| 23:47.08 | streuner | Empis: when do you need UDP at all... |
| 23:47.30 | Empis | Counter-Strike server, but i saw what i needed in the log, thanks! |
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| 23:51.29 | Empis | Can someone help me with a iptable rule that allows to conncet to a dedicated UDP-server on port 27015 ? |
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| 23:55.26 | karmatronic | hi guys |
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