| 00:00.17 | dotCOMmie | stian79: also on some cards esp intel, you can change which of the ports serves as mic. |
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| 00:10.41 | Elive_user83_en | hey |
| 00:10.57 | Elive_user83_en | is it possible to use e17 and ecomorph in debian |
| 00:11.16 | cast | e17 foo sure |
| 00:11.22 | cast | nfi what ecomorph is |
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| 00:12.08 | Elive_user83_en | ecomorph is screen manager like compiz |
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| 00:14.14 | Elive_user83_en | debian has e17 in lenny |
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| 00:14.34 | Elive_user83_en | becayse sid gives package error while installing e17 module |
| 00:14.39 | cast | i always compile from cvs |
| 00:14.54 | cast | seeing as its cvs quality software ^_^ |
| 00:15.08 | Elive_user83_en | with sh script |
| 00:15.09 | Elive_user83_en | ? |
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| 00:15.23 | cast | nope |
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| 00:17.45 | Lateralus | What's the correct way to upgrade from lenny to squeeze without running into udev issues? |
| 00:17.58 | Elive_user83_en | sh script gives error |
| 00:18.07 | Elive_user83_en | what is the adres you used |
| 00:18.16 | themill | Lateralus: afaik, "/msg dpkg lenny->squeeze" works ok |
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| 00:18.31 | SRP | !ispconfig |
| 00:18.31 | dpkg | ISPConfig is a web hosting control panel available under the BSD license - http://www.ispconfig.org/ |
| 00:19.52 | Mousk4r | !dpkg |
| 00:19.52 | dpkg | from memory, dpkg is the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 00:20.03 | Elive_user83_en | hey |
| 00:20.09 | Elive_user83_en | i need your help cast |
| 00:20.43 | simonrvn | !tell SRP -about msg the bot |
| 00:20.51 | simonrvn | !tell Mousk4r -about msg the bot |
| 00:21.09 | cast | Elive_user83_en: i RTFM |
| 00:21.23 | Elive_user83_en | what is rtfm |
| 00:21.33 | cast | !rtfm |
| 00:21.33 | dpkg | rumour has it, rtfm is Read The Fucking Manual. If you want to ask a question about foo, please read man foo; before asking. If there isn't a manpage about foo, use apropos to find one. Reading manuals helps us help you. [You might try info foo as well.] |
| 00:22.43 | Elive_user83_en | cast, |
| 00:22.55 | Elive_user83_en | you people prepare message like that |
| 00:23.07 | Elive_user83_en | how do you know i didnt read anything |
| 00:23.14 | Elive_user83_en | what are you ? |
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| 00:23.36 | SRP | Is ther usage of 495mb ram for a vps configured with ispconfig3 normal or very high? It's using the tutorial from http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-debian-lenny-ispconfig3 |
| 00:24.25 | cast | if you read everything then you know as much as me and i am of no help |
| 00:24.29 | Elive_user83_en | x"you must be so genious |
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| 00:25.36 | themill | Elive_user83_en: if you're running sid, we work on the assumption that you're able to read check the bts yourself and that you can solve your own problems. /msg dpkg bts ; /msg dpkg sid. |
| 00:25.51 | Elive_user83_en | cvs script gives me an error |
| 00:25.57 | Elive_user83_en | and sh file gives me an error |
| 00:26.25 | Elive_user83_en | i am not in sid |
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| 00:26.47 | Elive_user83_en | i am in elive right now based on debian stable |
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| 00:26.59 | Elive_user83_en | e17 is in debian sid |
| 00:27.07 | Mousk4r | and squeeze |
| 00:27.18 | Elive_user83_en | not in squeeze |
| 00:27.23 | Mousk4r | ah ok |
| 00:27.25 | Elive_user83_en | i did aptitude search |
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| 00:27.33 | Mousk4r | wait |
| 00:27.35 | Elive_user83_en | i wonder it is in lenny |
| 00:27.40 | hayleyw | !based on debian |
| 00:27.41 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is off-topic on #debian. |
| 00:27.52 | Elive_user83_en | because any e17 cannot install in sid |
| 00:27.54 | hayleyw | go elsewhere. |
| 00:28.18 | Elive_user83_en | i dot want to support liike something else |
| 00:28.31 | Elive_user83_en | i just want to use e17 in debian |
| 00:28.40 | Elive_user83_en | and i want to use ecomorph in debian |
| 00:28.45 | Elive_user83_en | i wonder is it possible |
| 00:28.49 | Mousk4r | do it manual |
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| 00:48.56 | Lateralus | My 2.6.32 kernel is not booting when I upgrade from lenny to squeeze; CPU#0 stuck for 61s, etc |
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| 00:49.15 | cast | checked the bts? |
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| 00:56.47 | jfb | hello world |
| 00:57.09 | Lateralus | cast: bts? |
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| 00:58.22 | jfb | experience callback with an ADAPTEC 3405 in RAID5 mode under lenny, everything is all right :) |
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| 01:19.11 | involved | Hi. Do you guys think that a XFCE4 install of DebianEeePC should fit in a 4gb disk? |
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| 01:19.32 | hayleyw | involved, yes |
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| 01:19.54 | involved | thanks |
| 01:20.04 | involved | how much should it take? 'bout half? |
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| 01:20.22 | hayleyw | involved, 2.5ish depending on what you install |
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| 01:20.48 | involved | excellent |
| 01:20.53 | involved | many thanks for your help |
| 01:22.03 | wad | Hi, guys. I'm trying to play a game of Neverwinter Nights 2, but I need to set up an ip tables rule to allow traffic in, and send it to the machine on the internal network. (I've got a debian box with 2 NICs, one internet-facing, and one for the internal network). I've read some things, and tried some IP tables commands, and I was able to make it accept traffic on port 5121 (I think), |
| 01:22.14 | wad | but I can't seem to make it forward the packets on to the right internal IP address. |
| 01:22.22 | wad | Any of you guys know much about IP tables? |
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| 01:22.37 | cast | its generally easier to use an iptables frontend like shorewall rather than iptables directly |
| 01:22.44 | cast | you'll probably make less fuckups |
| 01:22.53 | wad | cast: You're a genious. |
| 01:22.57 | Wyzard | wad: Assuming you're asking about a router that's running Debian, what did you use to set it up as a router? |
| 01:23.01 | wad | But my debian server is headless.... |
| 01:23.12 | involved | ssh -X |
| 01:23.13 | wad | Wyzard, it's just a box I built. It's a PC. |
| 01:23.18 | Wyzard | wad: If you used a firewall package, you should be able to configure it to do port forwarding, rather than having to write iptables rules manually |
| 01:23.24 | wad | involved, there is no X on the debian server. |
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| 01:23.43 | cast | shorewall isn't a gui at all, or a cui, you write a shorewall config and it builds the iptables rules from that |
| 01:23.45 | jfb | if you want try to install "arno's iptables", it's an easy way to configure iptables if you're not used to use command lines |
| 01:23.48 | wad | I'm not using any specific firewall package, just IP tables directly. Maybe I'm doing it the hard way.... |
| 01:24.03 | Wyzard | wad: Take a look at firehol or shorewall |
| 01:24.38 | wad | does |
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| 01:24.51 | Wyzard | wad: They let you configure your routing policies in a much-more-understandable config file, and generate iptables rules from the config file |
| 01:25.26 | wad | Wyzard, nice. |
| 01:26.28 | wad | heh, if I suddenly disconnect, it means that I screwed it up...... |
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| 01:28.14 | jfb | 2h27 in france..i'm tired...going in my bed. see you soon world |
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| 01:29.25 | beardy | wad: I agree on firehol, try that. Also, when trying filtering rules of any kind, use at(1) or 'sleep 10m ; turnthemoff' to turn them off in case you do screw up. |
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| 01:30.25 | Wyzard | beardy: "firehol try" does that for you |
| 01:30.50 | beardy | Or that then. |
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| 01:32.24 | Wyzard | Just noticed "firehol panic" in the manpage... that's pretty cool |
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| 01:32.49 | Wyzard | blocks all traffic immediately, except if $SSH_CLIENT is set, it adds rules to make your own ssh session continue working while blocking everything else |
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| 01:33.02 | cast | lul |
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| 01:36.36 | benji_ | Hi, how can I change the TIME_WAIT delay? |
| 01:36.54 | adb | _WAIT what ? |
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| 01:37.36 | benji_ | TIME_WAIT timeout for tcp connections |
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| 01:39.23 | involved | in debianeeepc, i've started with a base install, then installed base-desktop and xfce4 (with all the deps, but now I can't get X to start on boot. Init is 2. What am I missing? gdm? |
| 01:39.34 | involved | or what's the gdm equiv for xfce? |
| 01:40.52 | cast | there's xdm |
| 01:40.59 | neuro_damage | http://pastie.org/878068, seeing this error with module-init-tools, anyone know what could be the issue or how I could track it down? |
| 01:42.52 | involved | thanks cast |
| 01:45.31 | Backup | is there a pease of software in the repository that lets me controll a cellphone, like sending sms, calling using the computer mic etc..? not bluetooth, but usb? |
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| 01:46.44 | adb | !as |
| 01:46.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, as is autosearch: install apt-file and use apt-cache search <packagename> and/or apt-file search <name> , do it yourself ;) |
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| 01:47.46 | Backup | you gotta be kidding me |
| 01:49.34 | cast | its fucked up hey, searching the software repository |
| 01:50.16 | Wyzard | "apt-cache search phone" turns up wammu, which looks like it can do some of that |
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| 01:50.36 | Wyzard | and a few programs like bitpim for accessing data stored in a phone |
| 01:51.09 | adb | ekiga == calling using the computer mic |
| 01:51.57 | Wyzard | gsm-utils looks relevant too |
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| 02:08.00 | ge0rge007 | hello all! I am trying to make me usu router work at debian but i have some problems! I have tried it with all work great,then i have copied all the settings ubuntu uses and try to make them work at debian.So i have connected to the network but i can't access any webpage or ping anything.Any idea? |
| 02:08.20 | ge0rge007 | (usb* router) |
| 02:09.26 | Origen | Hi, I can map wmy Microsft SkyDrive in Windows using the Map Network Drive and inputting the URL "https://vte4w7.docs.live.net/0b1fewrfwecc482f00f/^2Documents", how can I do the same in Linux. Using wdfs it doesnt seem to like the "^2Documents" |
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| 02:11.52 | BOMBER^ | how can I install GMAKE on debian? |
| 02:12.01 | hayleyw | aptitude install make |
| 02:12.29 | BOMBER^ | well make i have but it looks I need gmake, as command |
| 02:12.43 | BOMBER^ | to install something |
| 02:12.49 | SRP | !tell SRP about kloxo |
| 02:12.56 | BOMBER^ | so .. ? |
| 02:13.02 | SRP | !kloxo |
| 02:13.13 | BOMBER^ | how can I get the 'gmake'commend to work |
| 02:13.16 | BOMBER^ | command |
| 02:13.31 | SRP | apt-get update |
| 02:13.32 | hayleyw | BOMBER^, so create a symlink. ln -s /usr/bin/make /usr/bin/gmake |
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| 02:13.52 | SRP | !lxadmin |
| 02:14.07 | BOMBER^ | ok thanks |
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| 02:14.30 | adb | BOMBER^, PM me please |
| 02:14.46 | gato_cinco | this is probably a stupid question, but... if i have, say, a /tmp/ partition, and i umount it... why can i still cd into /tmp (granted, an empty tmp) |
| 02:15.23 | hayleyw | gato_cinco, because linux doesnt release the file/folder until all processes are done with it |
| 02:15.43 | gato_cinco | hayleyw: but the contents aren't there |
| 02:15.54 | hayleyw | gato_cinco, doesnt matter. most daemons lock in it |
| 02:16.10 | gato_cinco | k, thanks, just curious |
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| 02:18.19 | gato_cinco | wait, follow up: so if i need to take down a partition for maintenance, but there is still a lock on it... |
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| 02:18.45 | metalfan_ | hi |
| 02:19.00 | cast | take down a partition for maintenance? |
| 02:19.02 | hayleyw | gato_cinco, man fuser |
| 02:19.24 | gato_cinco | oh yeah, i've used fuser |
| 02:19.39 | gato_cinco | so you're saying, yes, i should ensure there is no lock before doing that ;) |
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| 02:22.37 | BOMBER^ | one more question, on posgresql, ./configure error - readline library not found |
| 02:22.46 | BOMBER^ | how do I install readline library ? |
| 02:23.12 | arle | BOMBER^: apt-cache search readline dev |
| 02:23.58 | BOMBER^ | ok and what to do next |
| 02:24.10 | BOMBER^ | I`m not very familir with debian so bare with me :) |
| 02:24.24 | arle | BOMBER^: when you are compiling from sources, you need development libraries |
| 02:24.50 | arle | BOMBER^: In Debian, its packages has the 'dev' keyword in their names |
| 02:25.44 | arle | BOMBER^: Did you issue the command I typed? |
| 02:26.03 | arle | BOMBER^: May have listed a few packages and its descriptions |
| 02:26.06 | BOMBER^ | yes |
| 02:26.08 | hayleyw | BOMBER^, or you should just do apt-get build-dep postgresql |
| 02:26.10 | BOMBER^ | found it |
| 02:26.12 | BOMBER^ | libreadline5-dev |
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| 02:26.28 | arle | BOMBER^: that package sounds nice for me :-) |
| 02:26.43 | BOMBER^ | lets see if it works now |
| 02:26.57 | hayleyw | BOMBER^, you should do what i said first |
| 02:26.59 | daltio111 | guyz my debian machine is down i have anther machine with same spec how can i copy the right machine to old bad one and get the old up n running any idea? |
| 02:27.09 | BOMBER^ | hayleyw did it |
| 02:27.11 | BOMBER^ | thanks |
| 02:27.24 | BOMBER^ | looks like it works now |
| 02:27.52 | cast | daltio111: find what broke. |
| 02:27.56 | hayleyw | daltio111, you can dd the working hd to the old |
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| 02:28.19 | daltio111 | the disk fails so no OS now |
| 02:28.59 | cast | daltio111: put in a new disk....reinstall from backup? |
| 02:29.03 | daltio111 | i toook backup pf right machine through partimage rescue cd and restoe on bad one but i am not able to boot that bad achine |
| 02:29.16 | daltio111 | i do not have any backup |
| 02:29.35 | daltio111 | i put the new disk now i want the machine u |
| 02:29.38 | arle | hayleyw: Maybe BOMBER^ isn't compiling a deb source package. Seems like she's using the vanilla tarball from postgresql project |
| 02:29.52 | hayleyw | arle, that's irrelevant |
| 02:30.14 | BOMBER^ | actualy I installed posgre |
| 02:30.19 | BOMBER^ | but I get an error at |
| 02:30.26 | BOMBER^ | libpq++-4.0# |
| 02:30.54 | BOMBER^ | pgdatabase.cc: In member function âint PgDatabase::CmdTuples() constâ: |
| 02:30.58 | arle | hayleyw: actually, I can't issue apt-get build-dep because I have commented out my src apt list entries |
| 02:31.03 | BOMBER^ | pgdatabase.cc:75: error: âatoiâ was not declared in this scope |
| 02:31.04 | BOMBER^ | gmake: *** [pgdatabase.o] Error 1 |
| 02:31.08 | BOMBER^ | that the errors I get |
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| 02:31.22 | hayleyw | arle, good for you. you are not the majority |
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| 02:32.35 | BOMBER^ | so any sugestions on that one? |
| 02:32.48 | arle | hayleyw: Majority doesn't matters. Freedom does. If you insist, I can switch over the way I compile from soruces. Perhaps the method you posted is the right one. And, not, that is not "irrelevant" |
| 02:33.26 | hayleyw | arle, ok, i insist. |
| 02:33.44 | arle | BOMBER^: (1) search for the library name _or_ (2) enable your src apt list entries and follow hayleyw advice |
| 02:34.06 | arle | BOMBER^: I mean search for the development headers for that lib |
| 02:34.42 | daltio111 | hayleyw? |
| 02:35.03 | BOMBER^ | or running the dependencies command right now |
| 02:35.04 | daltio111 | do u use partimage command from sysem -rescue cd |
| 02:35.07 | BOMBER^ | and then what ? |
| 02:35.13 | BOMBER^ | reinstall posgre ? |
| 02:35.23 | BOMBER^ | or? |
| 02:35.26 | arle | hayleyw: c00l, that's a new approach for me when compiling from sources. tnx a lot |
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| 02:35.36 | daltio111 | i tried that act the right server is in production and its on remote location i can not do dd |
| 02:35.46 | arle | BOMBER^: Reinstall? You haven't even installed it, I guess. :-) |
| 02:35.58 | BOMBER^ | well it said its installed |
| 02:36.09 | BOMBER^ | and ready to use... |
| 02:36.16 | BOMBER^ | maybe the system lied?:) |
| 02:36.25 | arle | BOMBER^: sorry, I thought you were having trouble with some lib when compiling |
| 02:36.50 | BOMBER^ | actualy having problems with libpq++ |
| 02:36.56 | BOMBER^ | when installing |
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| 02:37.34 | hayleyw | you installed debian's postgresql package, then for some reason decided to try to compile it from source? |
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| 02:37.51 | BOMBER^ | installing it from source |
| 02:38.09 | hayleyw | ok. why? |
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| 02:40.00 | BOMBER^ | as i told u, not very familiar with debian, I just thought its the right way |
| 02:40.11 | hayleyw | BOMBER^, no. aptitude install postgresql |
| 02:40.31 | BOMBER^ | well will that be ok after I installed from source/ |
| 02:40.33 | BOMBER^ | ? |
| 02:40.50 | hayleyw | BOMBER^, you havent even finished compiling? |
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| 02:41.22 | BOMBER^ | I compiled and installed it, I get errors with that libpq++ |
| 02:41.28 | BOMBER^ | thats what is not working |
| 02:41.38 | hayleyw | BOMBER^, make uninstall and aptitude install postgresql |
| 02:41.40 | BOMBER^ | when I`m trying to install it |
| 02:42.02 | BOMBER^ | hayleyw is there a package for libpq++? |
| 02:42.12 | hayleyw | goddamn. just do what you're told |
| 02:42.22 | blouf | hi i'm new to the linux world, just wanna say that it's a real pleasure to see the quality where it is, linus torvald is genius |
| 02:42.37 | BOMBER^ | ok |
| 02:42.40 | BOMBER^ | justa sec |
| 02:44.01 | BOMBER^ | installing |
| 02:44.32 | Origen | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.35 | BOMBER^ | but after that how do I ./configur it adding the options I need? |
| 02:44.39 | arle | BOMBER^: Installing from binaries this time..? |
| 02:44.47 | BOMBER^ | from apt |
| 02:45.03 | arle | BOMBER^: Install from source only if you need to tweak some default options |
| 02:45.23 | BOMBER^ | heh thats what I did in the first place |
| 02:45.26 | hayleyw | arle, apt installs it with 99.9% of the options poeple want. then you edit what you want enabled via postgresql's config file |
| 02:45.40 | hayleyw | BOMBER^, sorry, that was for you |
| 02:45.43 | arle | hayleyw: you are the man |
| 02:46.04 | arle | hayleyw: no problem |
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| 02:46.19 | BOMBER^ | ok I need it with --enable-multibyte --with-CXX --with-tcl --without-tk, how do I do that ? |
| 02:46.40 | arle | blouf: just remember the Debian GNU/Linux project involves a lot of people |
| 02:47.00 | arle | specially those over here, giving free consulting :-) |
| 02:47.12 | daltio111 | hayleyw? |
| 02:47.16 | daltio111 | can u help |
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| 02:47.34 | ngomes | !! kernel |
| 02:47.45 | arle | BOMBER^: What Debian version / platform are you running? |
| 02:47.49 | hayleyw | BOMBER^, aptitude install libpgtcl1.5 postgresql-pltcl-8.4 will get you what you need |
| 02:48.07 | blouf | arle : for sure, free consulting should be remunerated too |
| 02:48.44 | BOMBER^ | E: Couldn't find package postgresql-pltcl-8.4 |
| 02:48.47 | BOMBER^ | huh |
| 02:48.57 | ngomes | can i upgrade kernel to 2.6.33-2-686 experimental in debian sid ? |
| 02:48.59 | BOMBER^ | o its pgtcl |
| 02:49.01 | BOMBER^ | not pl |
| 02:49.03 | BOMBER^ | right? |
| 02:49.12 | arle | BOMBER^: apt-cache search postgre tcl |
| 02:49.15 | adb | BOMBER^, lenny ? |
| 02:49.24 | ngomes | my sid is crashing all the times |
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| 02:49.39 | adb | ngomes, don't use sid |
| 02:49.47 | ngomes | too late for that |
| 02:49.51 | daltio111 | guys i have lot of zombie processes in debain which makes my memory and swap used and system will slow down eventually |
| 02:50.05 | ngomes | can i upgrade kernel to 2.6.33-2-686 experimental in debian sid ? |
| 02:50.10 | BOMBER^ | libpgtcl-dev ? |
| 02:50.16 | BOMBER^ | arle libpgtcl-dev ? |
| 02:50.17 | daltio111 | i want to run a script on some procee which kill them any idea what to do? |
| 02:50.31 | ngomes | make the script |
| 02:50.48 | arle | BOMBER^: may be your package is postgresql-pltcl-8.3 |
| 02:51.02 | ngomes | or maybe 2.6.26 kernel is it possible to get it in the sid tree ? |
| 02:51.18 | BOMBER^ | arle yes its there |
| 02:51.23 | BOMBER^ | so I should install ? |
| 02:51.26 | BOMBER^ | that? |
| 02:52.09 | BOMBER^ | ok that was ok |
| 02:52.19 | BOMBER^ | so now... |
| 02:52.26 | arle | BOMBER^: as hayleyw said, install that using aptitude install postgresql-pltcl-8.3 |
| 02:52.35 | BOMBER^ | I did |
| 02:52.39 | BOMBER^ | installed |
| 02:52.45 | ngomes | judd, kernels |
| 02:52.48 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.3); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-10); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.2-686 (2.6.32-8~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 02:53.05 | BOMBER^ | so now i have --enable-multibyte --with-CXX --with-tcl --without-tk ? or I have to do something else? |
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| 02:54.06 | arle | BOMBER^: dunno |
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| 02:54.32 | sylar | how to ban an IP? |
| 02:54.38 | BOMBER^ | then can I run ./configure with those options ? how do I do that ? |
| 02:55.08 | arle | BOMBER^: Please read: You don't issue ./configure after _installing_ a binary package |
| 02:55.33 | arle | BOMBER^: You only use ./configure when setting up things for _sources_ to be compiled |
| 02:55.47 | BOMBER^ | ok, then how do I set that up ? |
| 02:56.04 | arle | BOMBER^: configuring the PostgreSQL is about editing conf files |
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| 02:56.28 | BOMBER^ | hm ok |
| 02:56.35 | arle | BOMBER^: config files are located under /etc |
| 02:57.00 | arle | BOMBER^: search for postgresql config scripts or directory |
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| 02:57.11 | BOMBER^ | ok |
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| 03:05.29 | ktrav | Hey I have an issue with my internal mic...I have a thread open will full details and an error message I repeatedly get http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=50337 |
| 03:05.41 | ktrav | If anyone thinks they can help, lemme know |
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| 03:09.22 | Drgdhmstr | I'm having an error in Linux: |
| 03:09.42 | adb | Drgdhmstr, which linux ? |
| 03:09.49 | Drgdhmstr | Debian |
| 03:09.56 | adb | lenny ? |
| 03:09.59 | Drgdhmstr | Yeah |
| 03:10.18 | Drgdhmstr | --------------------------- |
| 03:10.18 | Drgdhmstr | Workgroup |
| 03:10.18 | Drgdhmstr | --------------------------- |
| 03:10.19 | Drgdhmstr | \\Devserv1 is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. |
| 03:10.19 | Drgdhmstr | --------------------------- |
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| 03:11.18 | Drgdhmstr | Argh |
| 03:11.24 | Drgdhmstr | Did you see the error? |
| 03:11.25 | LoRez | try not to spam |
| 03:11.30 | LoRez | use a pastebin. |
| 03:11.33 | Drgdhmstr | That isn't spam. |
| 03:11.47 | Drgdhmstr | Error: \\Devserv1 is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. |
| 03:12.03 | LoRez | _that_ is a reasonable paste. |
| 03:12.04 | Drgdhmstr | Title is "Workgroup" |
| 03:12.40 | Drgdhmstr | Windows NT 4 trying to connect to Samba on Debian Linux. |
| 03:13.09 | Drgdhmstr | Hold on, maybe I need to change security = setting |
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| 03:16.32 | Drgdhmstr | Still not working. |
| 03:16.56 | Drgdhmstr | What causes this error? |
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| 03:18.20 | Drgdhmstr | --------------------------- |
| 03:18.21 | Drgdhmstr | Workgroup |
| 03:18.21 | Drgdhmstr | --------------------------- |
| 03:18.21 | Drgdhmstr | \\Devserv1 is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. |
| 03:18.21 | Drgdhmstr | --------------------------- |
| 03:18.21 | Drgdhmstr | OK |
| 03:18.21 | Drgdhmstr | --------------------------- |
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| 03:18.32 | ngomes | use swat to make samba shares |
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| 03:20.26 | cast | or NFS |
| 03:20.28 | cast | ducks |
| 03:21.48 | adb | !next |
| 03:21.48 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 03:25.03 | ngomes | can i use experimentar kernel or not on sid ? |
| 03:25.09 | ngomes | is not on repositories |
| 03:25.34 | adb | ngomes, y, but why ? |
| 03:25.53 | ngomes | its always hanging with 2.6.32-4 |
| 03:25.59 | ngomes | need to test other |
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| 03:26.17 | adb | , kernels versions |
| 03:26.20 | judd | (kernels [--release <lenny>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases. |
| 03:26.39 | adb | , kernels |
| 03:26.41 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.3); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-10); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.2-686 (2.6.32-8~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
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| 03:27.14 | ngomes | where is it then , adb ? |
| 03:27.41 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.12 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.13 | ngomes | with aptitude ? |
| 03:28.17 | ngomes | is not possible ? |
| 03:28.20 | adb | nah |
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| 03:28.51 | adb | or y , but wget it + dpkg -i |
| 03:29.06 | ngomes | can u provide link |
| 03:29.18 | adb | !pdo |
| 03:29.18 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 03:30.08 | adb | http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ |
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| 03:31.11 | stealth- | any reason the default debian install doesn't have killall? How can I get it? |
| 03:31.34 | dkr | stealth-: skill |
| 03:32.02 | stealth- | -_- |
| 03:32.09 | dkr | or install psmisc |
| 03:32.18 | ngomes | thanks adb |
| 03:32.27 | adb | yw ngomes |
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| 03:32.36 | stealth- | ah |
| 03:32.37 | stealth- | thanks |
| 03:32.42 | sivik | anyone here have any luck with ati drivers in debian 64 to actually work with 3d? |
| 03:32.55 | dkr | psmisc also includes pstree, which I find nifty |
| 03:33.49 | stealth- | ugh, got any recommendations on how to take down a really reluctant-to-quit process, dkr? |
| 03:33.50 | dkr | skill is nicer than killall though, can kill by name or term or uid |
| 03:34.06 | dkr | stealth-: kill -9 is the best you can do |
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| 03:34.11 | stealth- | oh, skill is a utility. I thought you were being a smartass :o |
| 03:34.14 | stealth- | my bad :) |
| 03:34.23 | Vasistha | stealth-: careful with kill -9, it should be a last resort |
| 03:34.37 | stealth- | well it kinda is my last resort :/ |
| 03:35.10 | dkr | stealth-: oh yeah, forgot skill is also a word that means something. heh |
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| 03:35.18 | adb | , versions skill |
| 03:35.18 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'skill' was found. |
| 03:35.30 | ngomes | adb, http://www.pastebin.org/118601 |
| 03:35.33 | ngomes | any help? |
| 03:35.36 | dkr | it's in procps package |
| 03:35.50 | stealth- | oh, there we go, that got rid of it. Thanks a bunch dkr :D |
| 03:36.00 | Vasistha | stealth-: Here's the instructions for kill ... Generally, send kill -15, and wait a second or two, and if that doesn't work, kill -2, and if that doesn't work, kill -1. If that doesn't, REMOVE THE BINARY because the program is badly behaved! |
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| 03:36.17 | dkr | hehe |
| 03:36.32 | stealth- | heh |
| 03:36.34 | Vasistha | that said, I've been known to kill -9 on curlftpfs when it wouldn't die. |
| 03:36.49 | Vasistha | funny, though, I haven't been using curlftpfs lately... |
| 03:36.59 | adb | ngomes, try to install linux-base (>= 2.6.33) , anyways if things bo wrong you will reinstall all .. |
| 03:37.19 | ngomes | where is linux-base ? |
| 03:37.24 | ngomes | a package also ? |
| 03:37.26 | stealth- | I think the program might have been forced to DOS, so I'm not really blaming the binary itself |
| 03:37.51 | ngomes | i think i wont install then |
| 03:37.59 | ngomes | shit can happen |
| 03:38.37 | adb | ngomes, in pdo too |
| 03:40.28 | adb | , versions linux-base |
| 03:40.31 | judd | linux-base -- sid: 2.6.32-10; experimental: 2.6.33-1~experimental.3; experimental: 2.6.33-1~experimental.4 |
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| 03:41.36 | adb | dkr, can't find skill ... in lenny |
| 03:42.04 | Vasistha | ngomes: hum, my brother also goes by the name bop. Never met another one before today. |
| 03:42.12 | nvz | skill is not found, its obtained through practice :-P |
| 03:42.19 | dkr | adb: it's in the package procps |
| 03:42.39 | adb | dkr, oh, thanks |
| 03:43.06 | dkr | which is "important" so you should have it by default |
| 03:43.41 | adb | yes, not tested before |
| 03:43.43 | nvz | Vasistha: most people would send a signal 9 after trying 15.. heh |
| 03:44.02 | Vasistha | nvz: I should hope that most people would at least try a 1 before a 9 |
| 03:44.06 | nvz | personally I'm a dick, so I go with an 11 |
| 03:44.09 | Vasistha | even if they skil the 15 |
| 03:44.10 | adb | nvz, i see .. |
| 03:44.17 | Vasistha | * skip |
| 03:45.01 | Bushmills | 15, 2, 1, 9, is my preferred order |
| 03:45.31 | dkr | hrm, I wonder if any of the apps have an option to do that? kill -TERM, then wait and kill -INT if still up etc up to kill -KILL |
| 03:45.57 | Bushmills | not to my knowledge. one could script it, though |
| 03:46.08 | dkr | slowkill :) |
| 03:46.29 | Bushmills | deathinphases |
| 03:46.30 | Vasistha | gradualkill ... suffocate :) |
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| 03:46.38 | dkr | creepingdeath |
| 03:46.58 | dkr | it's like heavy metal band names, :) |
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| 03:47.20 | Vasistha | indeed, clearly the script should be named megadeth. |
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| 04:13.32 | Sync` | wtf is this.. |
| 04:13.38 | Sync` | looks like a copy of windows |
| 04:14.05 | Vmanz | ? |
| 04:14.17 | Sync` | what does it have that windows/mac doesnt have |
| 04:14.38 | Sync` | ..hello.. |
| 04:14.43 | karlpinc_ | Sync`: Technically, this channel is only for support. But someone will likely comment. |
| 04:14.55 | Sync` | ok |
| 04:15.07 | Sync` | is this hard to use |
| 04:15.23 | Sync` | is there a channel i can ask this |
| 04:15.29 | karlpinc_ | Sync`: For me, it just works. And keeps working through security updates and major upgrades of all software. And I can count on the software never going out of business. |
| 04:15.37 | Vmanz | wtf is sync even on about :| |
| 04:15.43 | Vmanz | probly high on some drug |
| 04:15.53 | karlpinc_ | Vmanz: He wants to know "why debian". I think. |
| 04:15.54 | Sync` | ya know it |
| 04:16.31 | Sync` | OK, karlpinc_. Thank you for answering my question. I'll be sure to support Debian. Bye! |
| 04:16.52 | kgoetz | blink |
| 04:16.56 | cast | we missed the best feature, it's Free! |
| 04:16.58 | kgoetz | frigging bigpond users |
| 04:17.04 | liable | hah |
| 04:17.07 | Vmanz | haha. |
| 04:17.11 | liable | the aol'ers of oz :) |
| 04:17.13 | Vmanz | bigpond users have low IQ's it seems |
| 04:17.50 | kgoetz | :) |
| 04:18.10 | karlpinc_ | Vmanz: Be kind. He could have chemical assistance. |
| 04:18.16 | Vmanz | :P |
| 04:19.07 | karlpinc_ | cast: I like that it can be fixed when broken. |
| 04:19.23 | cast | yip, a consequence of it being free :) |
| 04:21.00 | karlpinc_ | cast: It's all a consequence of it being free. The strange thing is it took me 2 years of reading the gpl to even begin to understand the implications of copyleft. |
| 04:21.25 | simonrvn | !why debian |
| 04:21.25 | dpkg | Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ (archived at http://wiki.debian.org/WhyDebian). As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian. |
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| 04:34.26 | S` | Is 2.5 GB HDD and 64 MB RAM enough for running and SVN repository on Debian? |
| 04:34.45 | linoge | hi all, i'm installing debian using chroot in this computer... thing is my currently running OS have a wireless connection and i want chroot debian to have internet connection... how can i do that? |
| 04:35.12 | adb | S` 64 MB ? NO |
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| 04:37.23 | S` | adb: http://vpslink.com/compare/vpslink-hosting-plans/ Can you help me to select the best plan for me? I need to this server for hosting an SVN repo and to test my site |
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| 04:38.31 | linoge | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.41 | adb | S`, i dunno , sorry but in general minimum 250 MB ram , and 5 GB hard |
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| 04:39.07 | S` | Thanks adb |
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| 04:39.28 | adb | linoge, usually it does it automatique |
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| 04:42.02 | linoge | adb, well... it doesn't... i mounted /dev in /mnt/dev and proc... but it still doesn't know i'm connected... |
| 04:42.06 | Vasistha | linoge: I would expect chroot to pass on the internet connection automatically. Are you sure it's not available? And what OS are you running? |
| 04:42.22 | linoge | Vasistha, ... ubuntu |
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| 04:43.20 | linoge | Vasistha, i installed base system through netinst and expected to do the rest through ubuntu... |
| 04:43.41 | linoge | cause only way i can access this connection is wireless... |
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| 04:44.20 | Vasistha | linoge: seems to me you should be working on getting that wireless connection set up in the bootable base install rather than messing with chroot |
| 04:44.36 | Vasistha | linoge: what kinda radio ya got? |
| 04:45.58 | linoge | Vasistha, i own a laptop with a broadcom wireless device that needs propietary firmware... |
| 04:46.25 | Vasistha | !broadcom |
| 04:46.26 | dpkg | Broadcom Corporation is an integrated circuits supplier. For wireless LAN chipset drivers, ask me about <b43>, <wl>. For Ethernet chipset support, ask me about <bnx2>, <bnx2x>, <tg3>. |
| 04:46.27 | linoge | Vasistha, i'm very near the source of wireless |
| 04:46.54 | Vasistha | linoge: close enough to plug in a cable? :D heh |
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| 04:47.58 | Vasistha | linoge: are you looking at those b43 and/or wl factoids? |
| 04:48.34 | linoge | Vasistha, yes... but i already know i need b43-fwcutter and download the the firmware... |
| 04:49.15 | linoge | not so close... i'm outside the house and 'tis locked |
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| 04:51.01 | Vasistha | linoge: oh, one quick thing -- in your chroot, did you try pinging an ip address rather than a domain name, to see if it might be a dns issue? |
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| 04:51.14 | sivik | anyone have any luck with the ati drivers |
| 04:51.18 | linoge | mmm, let me see... |
| 04:52.02 | nvz | sivik: you're better off asking a question than taking a usage poll. |
| 04:52.19 | sivik | anyone get the 3d drivers working with 64 bit and ati? |
| 04:52.43 | nvz | obviously someone did, or we wouldn't have them available |
| 04:53.03 | sivik | yea, i know. I am having issues and not finding anything on the google and still having issues |
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| 04:53.37 | linoge | Vasistha, dns issue i think |
| 04:53.57 | sivik | i don't have a mouse pointer anymore and I tried using the information from the xorg that was working and its still not working right. |
| 04:54.05 | Vasistha | linoge: oh, is that so? can you ping 69.147.125.65 -- a yahoo address? |
| 04:54.28 | linoge | yeah |
| 04:54.59 | Vasistha | linoge: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 04:55.46 | linoge | Vasistha, nothing... yeah, that's kinda idiot ^^'. I have done this before :(. I forgot to copy resolv :( |
| 04:56.54 | Vasistha | linoge: cool, so this will make it easier to tackle your wireless issue. are you online in the chroot now? |
| 04:57.04 | linoge | Vasistha, yeah, thanks |
| 04:57.42 | Vasistha | linoge: np. do you know what to do next? |
| 04:58.25 | linoge | Vasistha, yes, i will add the official mirrors, install b43-fwcutter and wireless tools... wpa_supplicant, X11, kde, etc... that's it right? |
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| 04:59.54 | Vasistha | I'd personally be inclined to get wireless working and then boot the base system before installing x; otoh it can be difficult to get a wireless connection going on the command line if you don't know how. Also I'd recommend wicd, and do use aptitude rather than apt-get |
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| 05:01.29 | linoge | Vasistha, yep, aptitude does it work better... and yes, i was thinking on boot the system... i'm curious about setting wireless with wpa_supplicant... i'm connected to a wpa2 network, can i do it? |
| 05:01.59 | Vasistha | linoge: mmm... it's possible, but I've never succeeded at it myself :) wep is much easier. And I'm a lazy dude. |
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| 05:02.47 | linoge | Vasistha, the same here, so wicd be it then? |
| 05:02.54 | guevolt | hi. |
| 05:03.15 | Vasistha | linoge: yeah, prolly. give sources.list a line, deb http://apt.wicd.net debian extras |
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| 05:03.39 | guevolt | i'm trying to fix a broken package. i tried dpkg -r --force package but not resolved the problem. |
| 05:04.10 | Vasistha | guevolt: why don't you run aptitude and see what it recommends? |
| 05:04.42 | karlpinc_ | !tell guevolt about errors |
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| 05:07.32 | linoge | Vasistha, what are the mirrors for testing? sorry, long time i haven't used debian... |
| 05:07.37 | linoge | *which |
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| 05:08.33 | karlpinc_ | linoge: See debian.org's link to mirrors. |
| 05:08.39 | Vasistha | !mirrors |
| 05:08.39 | dpkg | it has been said that debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
| 05:08.58 | linoge | thanks :) |
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| 05:09.44 | sekyourbox | I need help with wpa_supplicant. When i run the command its says the following drivers are installed: wext, nl80211, amtel, wired... I need to enable madwifi drivers, and they are already installed..Network says im using auth5k. I need to get rid of network manager. Any help please |
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| 05:12.01 | pallgone | sekyourbox: is it a new install? |
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| 05:13.05 | sekyourbox | pallgone, I'm actualy using Ubuntu 910 which i just installed on this machine, about a week ago. |
| 05:13.56 | sekyourbox | This is the first time i decided to set up wpa_supplicant |
| 05:14.23 | sekyourbox | Ubuntu is Debian, so I can ask here right? |
| 05:14.28 | linoge | mmm, ok i have debian for amd64, so the right format should be something like deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian testing main ? |
| 05:14.34 | Vasistha | sekyourbox: no. |
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| 05:14.36 | Vasistha | !ubuntu |
| 05:14.36 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 05:14.54 | sekyourbox | but ubuntu sucks, lol |
| 05:15.02 | Vasistha | sekyourbox: so install debian. |
| 05:15.24 | sekyourbox | If i knew i would have to turn this into a server I would have |
| 05:15.50 | Vasistha | sekyourbox: I've used debian for my desktop for several years. Never needed a server. |
| 05:15.57 | sansen | debian is not just for servers |
| 05:16.11 | sekyourbox | how is it better than ubuntu? |
| 05:16.13 | karlpinc_ | linoge: man sources.list |
| 05:16.39 | karlpinc_ | sekyourbox: Ubuntu is based on debian unstable. There are pros and cons. YMMV. |
| 05:16.55 | Vasistha | sekyourbox: although debian and ubuntu both use the same packaging system, the archives are maintained by very different teams with very different philosophies. |
| 05:18.02 | Vasistha | sekyourbox: debian's team maintains a much larger cache of packages, and keeps much higher standards for compatibility and maintainability and upgradability and security |
| 05:18.27 | sekyourbox | hmmm, sounds intriguing |
| 05:18.50 | sekyourbox | intriguing* |
| 05:18.52 | sansen | for more architectures |
| 05:19.32 | sekyourbox | then why does everyone use ubuntu? |
| 05:19.46 | Vasistha | sekyourbox: hype, marketing |
| 05:20.03 | sekyourbox | I assumend they had more packages |
| 05:20.23 | sansen | because is for human beings ? |
| 05:20.32 | sekyourbox | is there an unsupported packages option? |
| 05:20.42 | linoge | so... apt automatically selects the architecture? |
| 05:20.54 | guevolt | humm.. look this. the package that i'm trying to remove is trying to connect to mysql using admin account. but i don't know which password the aptitude is using to connect to the mysql. |
| 05:20.56 | karlpinc_ | sekyourbox: Debian has more packages. Ubuntu is more bleeding edge, at least when compared to stable. |
| 05:21.01 | guevolt | Trying to establish test connection... ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'admin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| 05:21.21 | Vasistha | sekyourbox: in some cases it is easier to set up and get running. Also ubuntu includes things like adobe flash in their basic installs, whereas debian does not include proprietary software in their repos -- one must use other repos like debian-multimedia for that, if you want those things. Ditto for some hardware drivers. Getting 3d graphics working *might* be easier in ubuntu |
| 05:22.10 | Vasistha | linoge: oh yeah, aptitude knows what your architecture is, you don't need to think about that, it will just work |
| 05:22.36 | linoge | ok thanks... fantastic |
| 05:22.37 | karlpinc_ | sekyourbox: In other words debian takes more care that you don't inadvertently use non-free software and get stuck when it breaks/won't upgrade/etc. |
| 05:23.31 | Vasistha | linoge: erm, the only exception to that, I suppose, is with some 64/32 bit things where there might be some crossover. I've never used a 64-bit system myself, but I've heard people being confused about it. |
| 05:23.42 | sekyourbox | ok, thanks for the propaganda |
| 05:24.31 | Vasistha | sekyourbox: that's what we're here for! http://david9.freepgs.com/i/ubunturocks.png |
| 05:24.43 | linoge | Vasistha, so now i'm a bit confused... do i need to specify arch or not? |
| 05:25.38 | Vasistha | linoge: you really shouldn't. Do you have an opportunity to do so? |
| 05:26.44 | linoge | Vasistha, yes i think... according to sources.list man page you can specify it with something like squeeze/$(ARCH) |
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| 05:31.56 | konr | What package contains certtool? |
| 05:32.12 | simonrvn | !tell konr -about search |
| 05:33.29 | konr | well, considering that it's not installed |
| 05:33.42 | Vasistha | linoge: but... you shouldn't do that :) just let it decide automatically for you, and in all likelihood you will be fine. Why did you install a testing system anyway?? |
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| 05:35.08 | linoge | Vasistha, well, i've always used testing, except for the first few times i installed debian stable... don't know, kinda like it.... |
| 05:35.54 | Vasistha | linoge: as long as you know what you're doing. I don't like having to put that much effort into maintaining my system :) |
| 05:37.56 | linoge | Vasistha, :). I don't find wcid... |
| 05:38.16 | Vasistha | linoge: did you put that entry in your sources.list and do an update? |
| 05:38.22 | linoge | yes... |
| 05:38.35 | sansen | linoge, wcid or wicd ? |
| 05:39.55 | linoge | :(... wrong again, found it... |
| 05:39.57 | linoge | but... |
| 05:40.17 | linoge | seems like i have to install x11 and gnome? |
| 05:40.56 | guevolt | how can i fix this problem? http://pastebin.com/HqidkKFq |
| 05:41.23 | guevolt | note. i dodnt know the admin mysql user |
| 05:41.29 | guevolt | ops. password |
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| 05:44.03 | lnievas | ll |
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| 05:49.14 | Vasistha | linoge: wicd was designed to be a graphical tool, it might be pulling in a WM as a recommends |
| 05:50.32 | Vasistha | linoge: and debian's default DE is gnome, so if wicd was to recommend a DE, debian would make it gnome. You can use ctrl-u to undo in aptitude |
| 05:50.58 | linoge | mmm... coming back in a few moments, i think i can get wpa_supplicant working, it'll be interesting |
| 05:51.00 | Vasistha | linoge: or you could just reboot into debian and see if you can get your wireless connection going without wicd |
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| 06:06.39 | KaptinKurk | I mounted something with fusefat |
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| 06:07.01 | KaptinKurk | however |
| 06:07.06 | KaptinKurk | fusermount -u fails with not mounted |
| 06:07.14 | KaptinKurk | root is required to unmount it |
| 06:07.24 | KaptinKurk | which is very annoying and breaks my script |
| 06:07.30 | KaptinKurk | where it has worked before |
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| 06:08.50 | nvz | did you mount it as root? |
| 06:08.52 | KaptinKurk | No |
| 06:09.05 | KaptinKurk | It used to work some months ago but not anymore |
| 06:09.10 | nvz | well that was my best guess.. heh |
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| 06:09.24 | KaptinKurk | I'm in the fuse group |
| 06:09.41 | nvz | I've noticed that before using "user" mount options that if root mounted it, then root has to unmount it |
| 06:11.29 | KaptinKurk | other than fusefat, there's no way that I know of to put files on a floppy |
| 06:11.37 | KaptinKurk | floppy image |
| 06:12.31 | KaptinKurk | guess I'll have to make a script in root that never ends, that unmounts it when i say so |
| 06:12.32 | nvz | *shrug* I haven't used a floppy in over 10 years. I do use floppy images, but only occationally in virtualbox |
| 06:12.40 | KaptinKurk | this is QEMU work |
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| 06:13.06 | tuv | how do i have a ntfs flash drive automatically mount on plugging it in? |
| 06:13.24 | KaptinKurk | Depends on what you currently use |
| 06:13.36 | KaptinKurk | GNOME Volume Manager? Some KDE manager? |
| 06:13.39 | KaptinKurk | Another thing? |
| 06:13.40 | tuv | an ext3 gets mounted automatically, but not an ntfs one |
| 06:13.52 | tuv | nautilus, without all of gnome |
| 06:14.03 | KaptinKurk | You have ntfs-3g installed? |
| 06:14.05 | nvz | I find it funny you even have ntfs on anything much less a flash drive |
| 06:14.21 | KaptinKurk | I used to use NTFS on a flash drive |
| 06:14.26 | tuv | and pcmanfm on another machine. both of which mount ext3 partitions automatically |
| 06:14.27 | KaptinKurk | because it was 128MB and it had compression |
| 06:14.43 | KaptinKurk | then I swithced to Linux |
| 06:14.47 | tuv | and i can mount ntfs manually, so yes. ntfs-3g is installed |
| 06:15.08 | KaptinKurk | tuv: Does it complain of "unchecked disk", or anything else? |
| 06:15.17 | nvz | tuv: do you have gconf-editor? |
| 06:15.34 | nvz | and gnome-volume-manager? |
| 06:15.37 | tuv | nvz: i want files > 4G, and compatibility with linux and windows (for when i need to plug it in a friend's machine) |
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| 06:16.26 | KaptinKurk | there may be an automount option for NTFS |
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| 06:17.25 | KaptinKurk | I believe my NTFS partitions tried to get mounted by GNOME's volume manager |
| 06:17.30 | KaptinKurk | but they had errors |
| 06:17.31 | tuv | nvz: i'm now on the machine with pcmanfm. neither of gnome-volume-manger or gconf-editor are installed |
| 06:17.43 | KaptinKurk | You should install those then |
| 06:17.54 | nvz | well gnome-volume-manager will do it for you.. |
| 06:18.08 | KaptinKurk | gnome-volume-manager manages the automounting |
| 06:18.11 | KaptinKurk | for GNOME at least |
| 06:18.23 | nvz | yeah it monitors hal via dbus |
| 06:18.27 | nvz | and automounts |
| 06:18.32 | nvz | gconf-editor --anonymous --buildbase flock- trunk |
| 06:18.36 | nvz | oops |
| 06:18.45 | tuv | so does pcmanfm, though it doesn't seem to recognize ntfs |
| 06:19.12 | nvz | gconf-editor /system/storage/default_options/ntfs-3g |
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| 06:21.26 | tuv | hmm.. correction. pcmanfm does mount ntfs |
| 06:21.46 | tuv | my problem is with nautilus without a gnome environment |
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| 06:22.26 | nvz | hmm.. well as for pcmanfm, /usr/share/pcmanfm/mount.rules |
| 06:22.49 | KaptinKurk | since fuse is sucking |
| 06:22.54 | nvz | as for nautilus I don't know that it has any means of automounting without gnome-volume-manager |
| 06:23.12 | KaptinKurk | I just made a script that runs in an infinite loop that unmounts the damn thing, when a file in /tmp/ is created |
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| 06:25.30 | mobidev | hi to all |
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| 06:26.41 | nvz | all is not here right now, would you like to leave a message? |
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| 06:38.03 | webPhone | hi |
| 06:38.12 | lnievas | hi mobidev |
| 06:38.35 | webPhone | que? |
| 06:38.44 | mobidev | lnievas, hi |
| 06:39.12 | lnievas | everything is fine today? |
| 06:39.17 | webPhone | do you dev in a desert? |
| 06:39.39 | webPhone | haha moobies |
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| 06:50.04 | \ottizen | What's the name of the SSL development library? It's not libssl-dev, openssl-dev or openssl-dev... |
| 06:50.39 | cast | aptitude search ssl|grep dev |
| 06:51.17 | cast | sure its not libssl-dev o_0 |
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| 06:51.45 | webPhone | hi |
| 06:51.46 | \ottizen | I changed mirror, and not it works. |
| 06:51.49 | \ottizen | cast: Thank you. :) |
| 06:51.55 | gigo | why is the original firefox not available in non-free? |
| 06:52.03 | webPhone | is ubuntu the best os |
| 06:52.04 | \ottizen | Opera :D |
| 06:52.10 | \ottizen | webPhone: It's good for beginners. |
| 06:52.33 | webPhone | and if I'm a pro? |
| 06:52.54 | webPhone | arch? |
| 06:52.57 | cahoot | then you don't need ask |
| 06:53.06 | kgoetz | ++ |
| 06:53.12 | webPhone | damn |
| 06:53.14 | kgoetz | gigo: why bother? |
| 06:53.29 | \ottizen | webPhone: Arch, Debian or LFS. |
| 06:53.35 | webPhone | was hoping for a quick road to pro |
| 06:53.36 | adb | !sunday |
| 06:53.37 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 06:53.48 | cast | webPhone: if you're a pro you wouldn't be asking. |
| 06:53.48 | \ottizen | It's Saturday. |
| 06:53.50 | Zharf | !saturday |
| 06:53.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, saturday is Tardsday Eve |
| 06:53.54 | \ottizen | !saturday |
| 06:53.57 | kgoetz | dpkg: tell webPhone about why debian |
| 06:54.06 | gigo | kgoetz: curious about the firefox-debian issue. i understood the the logos are not free as per debian standard, so it had to be rebranded. but then it could have been possible to provide firefox in non-free. isn't it? |
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| 06:54.14 | webPhone | !friday |
| 06:54.14 | dpkg | i heard friday is tardsday eve eve, or ! ! ! F R I D A Y ! ! ! |
| 06:54.28 | kgoetz | gigo: its possible, but why bother? |
| 06:54.41 | NiLon | !monday |
| 06:54.41 | dpkg | Looks like someone is having a case of the mondays!, or see tuesday |
| 06:54.48 | gigo | kgoetz: I am not bothering. just curious. |
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| 06:55.34 | webPhone | never got a tell |
| 06:55.52 | \ottizen | dpkg: Hello |
| 06:55.53 | dpkg | hi, \ottizen |
| 06:55.59 | \ottizen | dpkg: How are you? |
| 06:56.00 | dpkg | \ottizen: what are you talking about? |
| 06:56.04 | kgoetz | webPhone: dpkg says it old you |
| 06:56.20 | webPhone | fldang |
| 06:56.20 | kgoetz | *told |
| 06:56.27 | \ottizen | MSN is at http://www.msn.com/ |
| 06:56.31 | \ottizen | Where is MSN? |
| 06:56.45 | adb | !ot |
| 06:56.45 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 06:56.48 | \ottizen | Where can I find MSN? |
| 06:56.52 | \ottizen | hmm |
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| 06:57.01 | \ottizen | adb: Okey, sure. |
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| 06:57.36 | \ottizen | dpkg: !join #Debian-offtopic |
| 06:57.37 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, \ottizen |
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| 07:30.14 | bintut | waves |
| 07:31.44 | bintut | now i'm lost. i just installed nfs-kernel-server on lenny, added an entry on my /etc/exports and restarted the /etc/init.d/nfs-common and /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server |
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| 07:33.10 | bintut | first question: what is the nfs version of the nfs-kernel-server available in the lenny repository? |
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| 07:46.07 | linoge | hi all... again, i have tried to connect a wpa2 ap through wpa_supplicant for at least two hours now and don't have internet connection yet... can anybody help me please ? |
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| 07:49.01 | wols | linoge: /msg dpkg smart questions |
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| 07:49.04 | wols | and never ask to ask |
| 07:50.23 | linoge | -.- |
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| 07:52.40 | linoge | good, i have a laptop with a broadcom wireless device. I installed wpa_supplicant, wireless tools and b43-fwcutter to download and install firmware. I bring the network up with ifconfig wlan0 up and i can see the ap if i run iwlist wlan0 scan, i configured wpa_supplicant and when it finishes it says the connection is complete but i can't even ping to google |
| 07:52.59 | linoge | ah... and i modprobe b43 before connecting :) |
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| 07:53.46 | wols | the AP you connect to is your own? ie you have full control over it? |
| 07:53.52 | linoge | yes |
| 07:54.22 | wols | then disable wpa there and try to connect without any encryption as a trial |
| 07:54.48 | wols | then if that works reenable WPA again and tackle that problem: now you have a foundaction to stand on |
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| 07:55.39 | linoge | wols... mmm, how do i connect withouth wpa encryption? |
| 07:55.45 | wols | !wlan |
| 07:55.46 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <iwlwifi>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wimax>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
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| 08:10.17 | piratekitteh | i have entries in my tcp netstat output where the local (and remote) addresses are not my ip address and the stat is SYN_RECV. how do i stop this? |
| 08:10.53 | cast | thats curious |
| 08:11.07 | piratekitteh | ive tried dropping all packets on the local address port (80) but that doesnt seem to help |
| 08:11.07 | wols | wvd: piratekitteh what address is it? |
| 08:11.12 | wols | could be some multicast stuff |
| 08:11.56 | cast | i presume receiving a single syn packet would create such an entry? |
| 08:12.46 | piratekitteh | looks like a regular address, 93.229.66.27 |
| 08:13.09 | piratekitteh | there are actually several addresses that keep coming up |
| 08:13.19 | piratekitteh | interestingly the first two bytes are the same as my own |
| 08:14.32 | cast | do you get any other packets not for you? :) |
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| 08:15.01 | piratekitteh | if i recieved a syn packet with spoofed src address then this surely would make a connection with my own ip address as the "local adress" so this seems wierd |
| 08:15.38 | piratekitteh | i dont get any other wierd traffic besides this |
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| 08:19.03 | piratekitteh | oh this is happening on port 25 as well as port 80 |
| 08:19.16 | wols | can a sniffer sniff before the 3 way handshake is completed? |
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| 08:34.29 | wcs | hi people |
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| 08:38.55 | amol112 | hi all, i have MTNL modem lsusb shows 0451:6060 ,it gets detected after modprobe usbserial vendor=0x0451 product=0x6060 but wvdialconf not works with this |
| 08:39.39 | amol112 | dmesg shows usbserial_generic 4-2:1.0: generic converter detected usb 4-2: generic converter now attached to ttyUSB0 |
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| 08:51.02 | wols | !tell amol112 about doesn't work |
| 08:51.39 | Squawk | hey guys, evidently I screwed up a grub configuration as I get error 15 on trying to boot, whats the smallest download I can get that will allow me to fix it? I'm not inclined to download and burn a full livecd unless forced to |
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| 08:52.15 | amol112 | Squawk, livecd is must |
| 08:52.16 | wedge | Squawk: get "parted magic liveCD" |
| 08:52.18 | wedge | it's pretty small |
| 08:53.01 | Squawk | wedge, thanks taking a look now |
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| 08:53.23 | kgoetz | surely you can rescue it using the install cd? |
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| 08:54.16 | amol112 | wols, i have tested usbmodem using wvdialconf it worked but,0451:6060 after detecting by kernel also not getting detected by wvdialconf utility or gnome network manager |
| 08:54.34 | Squawk | kgoetz, I don't have the install cd, I was upgrading from grub to grub2 |
| 08:54.49 | Squawk | well, I probably do have an install cd, but I have no idea where, its been over a year since I used it |
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| 08:57.15 | wols | Squawk: the debian netinst CD is enough |
| 08:57.18 | wols | no need for a live cd |
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| 08:59.01 | Osmosis | load autoload/hack-whois-in-current-window.pl |
| 08:59.02 | Squawk | wols, thanks, that saves me some downloading |
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| 08:59.51 | wols | qemqemqem_: it has a feature "rescue boot" ro such. bnasically, you load the kernel from CD and everything else from the harddisk by using the kernel commandline "root=/dev/sda1" or whatever your root fs is |
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| 09:09.56 | amol112 | hi all,i don't know much modem configuration after search i got running #modprobe usbserial vendor=0x0451 product=0x6060 it detctects as /dev/ttyUSB0 but dont know how to configure it.. |
| 09:10.03 | amol112 | can anyone help me/ |
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| 09:17.35 | amol112 | is any firmware package require to install? |
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| 09:20.20 | Walex | amol112: if you need a firmware package, bad news. |
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| 09:21.26 | Walex | amol112: as to configuring, it is a serial device with a command language. There are several dialout packages, e.g. 'wvdial', you can also use 'minicom' to test out some of its commands. |
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| 09:23.51 | amol112 | Walex, thanks but wvdialconf shows that no modem found |
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| 09:33.52 | amol112 | ifconfig or mii-tool is detected card. |
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| 09:38.21 | Tass` | how to let my rootfs be checked automatically on startup? it queries for rootpw atm :-/ |
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| 09:43.08 | Bryanstein | amol112, what kind of modem is it? |
| 09:43.28 | amol112 | usb broadband modem |
| 09:43.44 | amol112 | 0451:6060 |
| 09:43.58 | amol112 | usb connected |
| 09:44.39 | amol112 | Bryanstein, is there any other way than wvdialconf for configuring usb modem |
| 09:45.05 | Bryanstein | yes like 6 ways lol |
| 09:45.28 | Bryanstein | install pppconfig also |
| 09:45.47 | Bryanstein | but sometimes I've found wvdial to be hit or miss |
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| 09:48.59 | amol112 | Bryanstein, may be pppconfig will work? |
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| 09:50.08 | Bryanstein | lol amol112 I am looking at somethings too about your modem |
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| 09:50.22 | amol112 | Bryanstein, thanks |
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| 09:51.44 | Bryanstein | amol112, your modem has an ethernet port too right? |
| 09:52.08 | amol112 | Bryanstein, yes ethernet port works |
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| 09:53.38 | Bryanstein | amol112, why not use that? |
| 09:53.46 | Bryanstein | you just want to see if you can get usb working? |
| 09:54.09 | amol112 | Bryanstein, no i have other system as well which is going to use usb modem |
| 09:55.12 | Bryanstein | amol112, pastebin an lsmod and dmesg |
| 09:56.32 | amol112 | Bryanstein, http://pastebin.com/kpZRkGBh |
| 09:56.57 | stian79 | I'm stuck with a few ishues on my new debian install. one is to get the microphone to work. Anyone care to help me out? |
| 09:57.29 | Bryanstein | amol112, I said lsusb and dmesg |
| 09:57.46 | wols | !tell stian79 about ask |
| 09:57.55 | Bryanstein | lol @ wols |
| 09:58.40 | amol112 | Bryanstein, http://pastebin.com/r9J497y2 |
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| 10:01.47 | Bryanstein | HAHAHA amol112 type in dmesg > usbmodem.txt; lsmod >> usbmodem.txt |
| 10:02.06 | Bryanstein | then open that usbmodem.txt...do a ctrl +A then paste it into pastebin |
| 10:02.09 | Bryanstein | wtf lol |
| 10:02.10 | wols | Bryanstein: tip, he already has the module loaded and has a device file for it |
| 10:02.49 | amol112 | Bryanstein, yes device detected as /dev/ttyUSB0 |
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| 10:03.43 | Bryanstein | oh...that means a lot...the real way to see what's up is the send AT commands with minicom...but we ain't going there |
| 10:03.57 | Bryanstein | run sudo pppconfig amol112 |
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| 10:05.39 | amol112 | Bryanstein, i am at office and device is at home i will try pppconfig |
| 10:06.26 | amol112 | Bryanstein, i have one doubt but why not it is showing in ifconfig output or in network manager |
| 10:06.58 | Bryanstein | amol112, well...it probably needs the firmware to be in the right place or installed |
| 10:07.41 | Bryanstein | these modems are used with Linux so, |
| 10:07.45 | Bryanstein | try this |
| 10:08.00 | Bryanstein | locate ti_usb-3410.bin |
| 10:08.11 | Bryanstein | see if you have that...your modem is most likely asking for it |
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| 10:08.35 | n0ta | my question is.. When i use http://geekx.net/files i get error 403 (forbidden) Where can i change somthing like this ?:) so people can view this folder |
| 10:09.33 | amol112 | Bryanstein, ok will gnome-ppp will be useful to configure usb modem? |
| 10:09.43 | wols | !tell n0ta about permissions |
| 10:10.01 | wols | n0ta: you change the permissions of the files directory on your harddisk |
| 10:10.12 | petemc | n0ta: you change permissions with chmod, use 644 for the files you want apache to read |
| 10:10.30 | n0ta | can i do this on the whole foldeR? |
| 10:10.31 | n0ta | -r |
| 10:10.43 | wols | yes. read the factoid more carefully |
| 10:10.56 | Bryanstein | amol112, yes it will but if you dont have the firmware |
| 10:11.01 | Bryanstein | you wont get anything |
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| 10:11.26 | amol112 | Bryanstein, which firmware package require to be install/ |
| 10:11.40 | amol112 | to get this firmware/ |
| 10:12.25 | Bryanstein | make sure the modem is not looking for firmware...you can get the firmware from the repos I believe |
| 10:12.42 | Bryanstein | firmware-linux-nonfree or firmware-linux |
| 10:12.43 | Bryanstein | or both |
| 10:12.47 | n0ta | hmm, when i used chmod 644 in FileZilla, the folder just disapered |
| 10:13.13 | Bryanstein | not sure if that ti driver is there or not...but if you google that .bin file and search around you surely will find what you want |
| 10:13.44 | Bryanstein | well that is because it needs to be executable |
| 10:13.51 | Bryanstein | he said file n0ta not folder |
| 10:13.56 | petemc | n0ta: use 755 for directories |
| 10:14.03 | Bryanstein | exactly |
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| 10:14.54 | petemc | n0ta: feel free to supplement what i tell you with actual reading to understand what you're doing |
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| 10:15.49 | n0ta | just made the folder 755, seems still 403.. |
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| 10:17.12 | n0ta | Could it be because my ispCP (controlpanel) blocks it? |
| 10:17.37 | umarzuki | hi, how do i get grub2 to detect other linux distro on /dev/sda3? |
| 10:17.50 | wols | umarzuki: you don't. need to edit it by hand |
| 10:18.15 | wols | n0ta: are you even running debian? is ispCP a debian package? |
| 10:19.11 | n0ta | because I use my server for other stuff than just webhosting :) and I like debian best |
| 10:19.28 | umarzuki | wols: how do i do that? os-prober could not do that |
| 10:19.37 | n0ta | oh but ye, i run debian 5.0 |
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| 10:20.44 | wols | umarzuki: you need to edit your /etc/grub.d/40_custom for example |
| 10:21.03 | umarzuki | well, i had done that |
| 10:21.35 | umarzuki | i only managed to get it booted once, then i got "unknown command initrd" |
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| 10:33.32 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 10:52.35 | some2 | some one here confirm a domain ownership bevor? |
| 10:52.55 | some2 | i need the settings on the name server |
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| 10:55.12 | wols | !wayttd some2 |
| 10:55.13 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, some2? |
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| 10:55.43 | some2 | ok |
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| 10:55.55 | some2 | i need to confrime my domain |
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| 10:56.12 | wols | some2: that is no debian related question. go to your registrar |
| 10:56.13 | some2 | so i have to change the settings on my nameserver |
| 10:56.17 | LuciusMare | Hi, i have a command, how do i get what package is it from? |
| 10:56.25 | wols | LuciusMare: dpkg -S |
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| 10:57.45 | antivirtel | hello all |
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| 10:57.51 | some2 | zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; |
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| 10:57.58 | SimManiac | LuciusMare: apt-file, packages.debian.org |
| 10:58.18 | antivirtel | can I ask, that why is here a lot of torrent files: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/amd64/bt-cd/ ? |
| 10:58.19 | SimManiac | wols: that wouldn't work if the package is not installed, right? |
| 10:58.20 | LuciusMare | thanks |
| 10:58.58 | wols | SimManiac: right. but he said "I _have_" |
| 10:59.06 | wols | antivirtel: why not? |
| 10:59.16 | antivirtel | how can I choose ? |
| 10:59.31 | wols | antivirtel: get CD1. the rest is not necessary to install debian. |
| 10:59.47 | antivirtel | ok, I download the first :D |
| 10:59.51 | wols | antivirtel: the full content of the debian repo is just many many CD (14 CDs or so) |
| 11:00.21 | wols | antivirtel: depending if you want gnome, kde or xfce on that CD1, you can different versions of CD1 |
| 11:00.34 | antivirtel | yes, but if I want to setup, and download packages what I need, is it possible ? |
| 11:00.47 | SimManiac | wols: I know, just pointing it :) |
| 11:00.53 | antivirtel | (download packages LEATER!) |
| 11:01.16 | wols | antivirtel: yes. you can get anything in debian later and it is the same as if you install it via CD. no difference |
| 11:01.50 | antivirtel | wols I want gnome interface :) so easy I can download this: debian-504-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent 01-Feb-2010 00:06 26K ? |
| 11:02.05 | wols | antivirtel: yes |
| 11:02.29 | antivirtel | ok, thanks, and boot and install generally supports CD-RW ? |
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| 11:02.55 | wols | what do you mean "generally supports"? |
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| 11:03.48 | antivirtel | so I mean usually supports boot from CD-RW? |
| 11:04.12 | wols | yes. if your hardware supports it, it will bootfrom CD |
| 11:04.13 | k-man | i installed debian netinst last night and there is weird stuff going on with logins - i could not log in after instalation |
| 11:04.31 | k-man | root and user passwords were not set correctly |
| 11:04.42 | k-man | is there a netinst channel? |
| 11:04.54 | antivirtel | wols- thanks, i will try it today :D I had in some desks ubuntu, but here I want to setup debian :) |
| 11:05.31 | wols | k-man: netinst asks you for a root password |
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| 11:06.01 | k-man | wols: yes, i set the root and the user password, but was unable to log in once install was finished. |
| 11:06.13 | k-man | shadow had a * instead of a pw field in it |
| 11:06.20 | k-man | i suspect its a bug maybe |
| 11:06.39 | k-man | it was the nightly build of the netinst - so bleeding edge |
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| 11:11.44 | Squawk | hey guys, very quickly how big shold the root partition be, not including /home. I've been using gentoo as my primary OS for a while and I'm guessing debian is a bit more streamlined |
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| 11:12.26 | badHTML | Hello |
| 11:13.16 | wols | Squawk: depends how much you have in /var and what you want to do with your debian |
| 11:13.25 | wols | Squawk: say around 10GB? |
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| 11:14.24 | badHTML | How should I move from a 32 bits system to a 64 bits one? Change kernel and then dist-upgrade'ing? |
| 11:14.28 | Squawk | wols, well I've got 500Gb of disk space so I can plan for all contingencies basically. It'll be a standard desktop system, might run winblows in a virtual machine |
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| 11:15.00 | wols | Squawk: and your windows image file will be where? |
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| 11:16.33 | Squawk | wols, dunno, I havn't run windows in a virtual machine before, just throwing out ideas. I've gone for 20gb atm |
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| 11:17.39 | badHTML | I had a *-686 kernel, then installed a *openvz-686 one. Now, after a motherboard replacement, I would like to move to *-amd64. Is it necessary to reinstall everything? |
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| 11:17.59 | wols | badHTML: depends if you want a 64bit userland |
| 11:18.02 | FriarLaurence | hi, my apache2 is not parsing phpfiles. instead i can download phpfiles via http. how can i fix this? apache2-mod-php5 is installed |
| 11:18.13 | wols | !php5 |
| 11:18.13 | dpkg | php5 is probably in Lenny and Etch. PHP5 is the only PHP version in Lenny, as PHP4 support has been discontinued; ask me about <php4 security>. |
| 11:18.19 | wols | hmm... |
| 11:18.21 | badHTML | wols: Yes, that would be the idea |
| 11:18.30 | wols | FriarLaurence: is php enabled via a2enmod? |
| 11:18.40 | FriarLaurence | i dont know |
| 11:19.00 | wols | then start to know |
| 11:19.24 | wols | !tell FriarLaurence about install php |
| 11:19.47 | FriarLaurence | wols: no, php has been activated by apt-get install |
| 11:20.00 | wols | read the factoid |
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| 11:20.32 | FriarLaurence | the php5 link in mods-enabled exists |
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| 11:21.05 | FriarLaurence | a2enmod says: Module php5 already enabled |
| 11:21.06 | hellyeah | !usb-installer |
| 11:21.21 | wols | !tell hellyeah about msgthebot |
| 11:21.32 | wols | hellyeah: tip: it's "usb install" |
| 11:21.48 | hellyeah | sorry wols |
| 11:21.51 | wols | FriarLaurence: use wget to get the page and check the output |
| 11:22.03 | wols | if that works, empty your browser cache, close it, etc |
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| 11:23.41 | FriarLaurence | wols: ok, wget -O - printed the php code unparsed |
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| 11:24.29 | SparFux | HI all. |
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| 11:32.14 | FriarLaurence | wols: mime is application/x-httpd-php but i cant find this in the configfile. is that normal? |
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| 11:32.55 | hellyeah | some web site told me that so as to install debian from usb |
| 11:32.59 | wols | FriarLaurence: no |
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| 11:33.10 | dutchfish | hi, using ghc6 and having replaced -XNoBangPatterns in debian squeeze/amd64 with latest haskell i got :NOT IN MAIN in every program that once compiled fine, someone that oculd shed a light on this? |
| 11:33.13 | hellyeah | zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdX |
| 11:33.35 | hellyeah | but debian web site just put vmlinux and initrd.gz to usb |
| 11:33.47 | hellyeah | i dotn understand |
| 11:33.52 | wols | hellyeah: read more carefully |
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| 11:34.28 | hellyeah | http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-flexible i am reading 4.3.2.2 |
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| 11:34.43 | wols | hellyeah: read 4.3.2.1 instead |
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| 11:37.17 | hellyeah | wols, i already read that i do syslÅnux step |
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| 11:37.55 | wols | hhex: sorry, meant 4.3.1 |
| 11:38.06 | hellyeah | hmm |
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| 11:42.32 | kaduk | HI |
| 11:42.40 | kaduk | how to extend number of IRQ avaibale ? |
| 11:42.50 | kaduk | so ksoftirq is not running |
| 11:42.58 | wols | kaduk: it will always run |
| 11:43.15 | wols | what do you have against it? |
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| 11:44.06 | kaduk | it takes 100% of my cpu |
| 11:44.15 | kaduk | and machines is rejecting connections |
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| 11:45.03 | wols | ksoftirq is not a process. it's a kernel component |
| 11:45.09 | kaduk | I assume that this is the problem with lacking number of IRQs |
| 11:45.10 | kaduk | ? |
| 11:45.14 | kaduk | how to increase them? |
| 11:45.20 | kaduk | buying other hardware? |
| 11:45.28 | kaduk | changing something in kernel? |
| 11:45.30 | kaduk | I dont know |
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| 11:46.26 | hellyeah | wols, e17 is in debian sid but when i try to install any enlightenment module it giives dependency error. But it is enlightenment package. Why it is not possible to make clean install of enlightenment on debian |
| 11:46.39 | wols | increasing the number of irqs won't help |
| 11:46.53 | wols | hellyeah: keyword "sid" |
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| 11:49.53 | jamesstanley | In the debian packaging guide, it says "That program should not be a daemon, or something that goes in */sbin directories, or open a port as root." Am I to take this to mean that Debian does not accept daemons in to the main package archive? |
| 11:50.00 | jamesstanley | Who did the Apache devs have to bribe? |
| 11:50.03 | farri | I have installed red5 rtmp server in my debian box but I can't make it run, I have tried /etc/init.d/red5-server start but in a second it stops, any help? |
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| 11:50.30 | wols | ,versions rtmp |
| 11:50.31 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'rtmp' was found. |
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| 11:51.53 | farri | who said rtmp? |
| 11:51.58 | hellyeah | btw e17 package is only in sid |
| 11:52.13 | hellyeah | this mean i never install e17 |
| 11:52.14 | hellyeah | :D |
| 11:52.14 | farri | red5 is an rtmp server |
| 11:52.45 | wols | ,versions red5 |
| 11:52.46 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'red5' was found. |
| 11:53.41 | farri | it's called red5-server in debian |
| 11:53.56 | farri | ,versions red5-server |
| 11:53.57 | judd | red5-server -- sid: 0.9~svn3968-2; squeeze: 0.9~svn3968-2 |
| 11:54.26 | wols | felipe: you know what they say about sid, right? |
| 11:54.36 | kaduk | wols, thats that was really helpful |
| 11:54.41 | kaduk | wols, thanks |
| 11:55.48 | farri | somecodehere, has someone tried red5 on debian? I cant make it run |
| 11:56.09 | farri | perhaps I must touch some config file, but I can't find any documentation |
| 11:56.39 | farri | oh, it seems my xchat replaces some texts with usernames, sorry |
| 11:56.49 | wols | farri: red5-doc |
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| 11:57.51 | farri | wols: already installed in my box, but no help in there, or hidden so I can't find it |
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| 11:58.12 | wols | where did you look? |
| 11:58.50 | stuckey | http://paste.debian.net/64972/ < -- I get this when trying to upgrade in aptitude. |
| 11:59.14 | farri | wols: in /usr/share/doc/red5-doc |
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| 11:59.57 | farri | wols: sorry., no -doc at the end |
| 12:00.03 | farri | /usr/share/doc/red5 |
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| 12:01.33 | stuckey | I'm trying to upgrade from lenny to squeeze and aptitude says this: http://paste.debian.net/64972/ --- What do I do? |
| 12:02.15 | wols | stuckey: if you have to ask, you don't upgrade |
| 12:02.48 | stuckey | Oh wols, I knew you'd say something like that. |
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| 12:05.13 | stuckey | wols: I have to for nvidia drivers |
| 12:05.24 | wols | stuckey: wrong |
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| 12:06.49 | stuckey | wols: people here told me that yesterday |
| 12:06.54 | wols | who did? |
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| 12:07.12 | stuckey | wols: sney, ml, et. al. |
| 12:08.26 | stuckey | I have to get drivers from sid, so I should be using testing. |
| 12:08.52 | stuckey | I'm following the instructions dpkg gives but aptitude gives me (http://paste.debian.net/64972/) and I don't know how to respond. |
| 12:09.16 | wols | there was no one named sney here yesterday. and you never asked anything about nvidia either |
| 12:09.53 | wols | and you do not need to upgrade to testing for nvidia drivers at all |
| 12:10.17 | wols | so which instruction exactly did dpkg give you? |
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| 12:16.36 | amz | if i have kde, and wanna have gnome, what i should do? apt-get install gnome and will work normal? |
| 12:17.21 | wols | amz: yes |
| 12:18.19 | stuckey | wols: i was on debian.org |
| 12:18.35 | stuckey | wols: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
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| 12:19.10 | wols | stuckey: you initial premise was wrong: you do not need squeeze to get nvidia drivers from anywhere |
| 12:19.31 | stuckey | wols: I've already upgraded to squeeze. |
| 12:19.47 | wols | stuckey: then have a nice day |
| 12:20.13 | wols | and read the >testing> factoid. especially the part about knowledge |
| 12:20.22 | amz | wols: on 100%? |
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| 12:20.33 | wols | amz: huh? |
| 12:20.36 | amz | and where i will can chose what kde or gnome i wanna? |
| 12:20.39 | amz | 13:16 < amz> if i have kde, and wanna have gnome, what i should do? apt-get install gnome and will work normal? |
| 12:20.42 | amz | 13:17 < wols> amz: yes |
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| 12:20.51 | amz | because some time ago i try to do same and all crash -_- |
| 12:21.02 | wols | amz: what debian version do you run? |
| 12:21.07 | amz | but i dont good remember last time and what i was do |
| 12:21.10 | amz | lenny-stable |
| 12:21.21 | wols | then it does work |
| 12:21.25 | amz | 5.0.4 |
| 12:21.32 | stuckey | I'm trying to upgrade from lenny to squeeze, and aptitude is giving me this: http://paste.debian.net/64972/ |
| 12:21.37 | amz | 2.6.32-bpo.2-686 kernek |
| 12:21.39 | amz | *kernel |
| 12:21.43 | stuckey | What should I do ? |
| 12:21.51 | amz | maybe there is point, because last time was sqeeze |
| 12:22.01 | amz | so, just apt-get install gnome and all should work? |
| 12:22.10 | amz | and before login i will can chose what i wanna kde or gnome? |
| 12:22.20 | tholmith | my / is on aes-xts encrypted lvm. on sid, with 2.6.32-4 kernel, i get 'cryptsetup: evmc_activate is not available', and i can't even enter the password, but with 2.6.32-3 it works like a charm. any ideas or hints would be greatlly apreciated. |
| 12:22.21 | wols | amz: yes |
| 12:22.27 | amz | wols: ok, thx! |
| 12:22.33 | amz | becase kde is shit, gnome best <3 :) |
| 12:22.35 | stuckey | Hi tholmith |
| 12:22.56 | amz | hmm |
| 12:22.58 | amz | ok i have problem |
| 12:23.00 | amz | w8 sec |
| 12:23.08 | tholmith | howdy stuckey |
| 12:23.30 | stuckey | k |
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| 12:24.01 | stuckey | tholmith: did you say yesterday that I should upgrade to suqeeze to get nvidia drivers? |
| 12:24.01 | \ottizen | mquin: hi |
| 12:24.06 | \ottizen | mquin: do u like debian? |
| 12:24.16 | wols | !u |
| 12:24.16 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 12:25.00 | tholmith | stuckey, no i didn't said that. |
| 12:25.31 | amz | wols: http://wklej.org/id/300363/txt/ :< |
| 12:25.36 | stuckey | tholmith: oh okay. Well now that I'm doing it I get this in aptitude and I don't know how to respond: http://paste.debian.net/64972/ |
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| 12:26.02 | mquin | \ottizen: it's my prefered linux distro - been using it for well over ten years |
| 12:26.25 | \ottizen | nice |
| 12:26.28 | wols | amz: pastebin your sources.list |
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| 12:27.18 | amz | wols: there is http://wklej.org/id/300363/txt/ |
| 12:27.19 | amz | on top |
| 12:27.40 | amz | and is after update/upgrade commands |
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| 12:28.04 | wols | amz: apt-cache policy gnome-desktop-environment |
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| 12:29.17 | amz | http://wklej.org/id/300365/txt/ |
| 12:29.23 | tholmith | stuckey, i'd say you should press y, but i might wrong. i'm allways wrong.lol |
| 12:29.43 | wols | amz: should work fine. I'd use aptitude |
| 12:30.05 | stuckey | tholmith: I was thinking Y too. |
| 12:30.19 | amz | so |
| 12:30.23 | amz | aptitude install gnome ? |
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| 12:32.08 | pookey | hi all - someone told the bot to tell me how to clone the packages from one machine to another last week, can anyone do it again or remind me? :) |
| 12:32.26 | gluon | Suppose there's a javac binary both in /usr/bin and $HOME/java/bin. Both this directories are set in my $PATH variable but javac from /usr/bin always takes precedence, how to reverse that to use the version in $HOME/java/bin? |
| 12:33.04 | wols | pookey: /msg dpkg debian clone |
| 12:33.27 | mquin | gluon: PATH is processed from left to right, so you just need to make sure $HOME/java/bin comes first |
| 12:33.29 | FriarLaurence | wols: i can access phpfiles in /var/www via http://localhost/... phpfiles are not parsed if they are in ~/public_html and i access them via localhost/~user/... do you know how to fix this? |
| 12:33.39 | pookey | wols: thanks :) |
| 12:33.40 | Squawk | guys, fdisk should be able to see unpartitioned space on a hard disk shouldn't it? |
| 12:34.01 | wols | FriarLaurence: known bug. you are running squeeze, right? |
| 12:34.08 | FriarLaurence | yes i am =) |
| 12:34.09 | wols | Squawk: yes |
| 12:34.21 | wols | FriarLaurence: read the BTS before asking next time |
| 12:34.49 | FriarLaurence | known :P nice. i fiddled around more than one hour do find out that i can access phpfiles from / |
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| 12:35.18 | Squawk | wols, ok then something isn't right here. I have a 500Gb hard disk, 5 partitions on it. three primary partitions and 2 extended, totaling around 200GB. It's a 500GB disk. I purposefully left 300GB unpartitioned during install as I'm not certain what I'm going to end up doing with it, but that unpartitioned space is no longer available to me via fdisk |
| 12:35.49 | amz | wols: http://wklej.org/id/300368/txt/ |
| 12:35.54 | amz | i should Y? |
| 12:36.04 | wols | Squawk: how big is your extended aprtition (note: there is only one extended partition, not several) |
| 12:36.47 | Squawk | wols, the extended partition is showing as the total of the two sub-partitions it is divided into. That would be the problem it seems, but not sure how to correct it |
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| 12:37.17 | wols | Squawk: can you create a new partition? |
| 12:37.26 | Squawk | wols, no, no free cylinders |
| 12:37.35 | wols | Squawk: what command do you use to create it? |
| 12:37.40 | Squawk | sectors, sorry |
| 12:37.49 | Squawk | wols, fdisk /dev/sda followed by "n" |
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| 12:38.19 | wols | Squawk: and it immediately tells you "no free sectors"? |
| 12:38.29 | Squawk | yes |
| 12:38.31 | SparFux | Anybody using pulseaudio on sid? |
| 12:38.57 | gluon | mquin: thanks! How didn't I thought about that before, makes sense! |
| 12:39.16 | wols | Squawk: debian is installed? I'd try gparted or such |
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| 12:39.19 | Squawk | It looks like the extended partition isn't using all the free space on the device, but when I used the partition tool during install the free space was there |
| 12:39.33 | Squawk | wols, yeah I'll take a peak at gparted when my update to squeeze is complete |
| 12:39.34 | Squawk | thanks |
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| 12:40.29 | Squawk | or I might just delete the extended partition, there isn't anything in there yet |
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| 12:51.46 | arcsky | i downloaded a music dvd and it got some .vob files instead of an iso/img how can i burn those? |
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| 12:52.24 | wols | arcsky: do you run debian? |
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| 12:55.15 | arcsky | wols: yes |
| 12:55.25 | wols | arcsky: uname -r |
| 12:55.38 | arcsky | why do u need that? |
| 12:55.54 | wols | cause it depends what software to use for burning |
| 12:56.12 | arcsky | 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 13:00.23 | Holborn | :) |
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| 13:01.48 | Drgdhmstr | LoRez: Sorry about the paste last night. |
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| 13:02.51 | Drgdhmstr | Anyway, I fixed the error by reinstalling Debian. |
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| 13:04.25 | Drgdhmstr | brb dude is throwing rocks at my window |
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| 13:12.58 | Drgdhmstr | Back. Okay, I need to turn off file permissions. |
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| 13:13.20 | Drgdhmstr | I had it turned off with chmod -R 777 / I think. |
| 13:13.51 | wols | Drgdhmstr: you cannot really turn it off. so what do you really want to do? |
| 13:15.19 | Drgdhmstr | I need it so that, over SMB or CIFS, software running on a Windows NT 4 machine can modify, delete, write, or read to any file in / |
| 13:15.27 | Drgdhmstr | (or any subdirectory) |
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| 13:16.18 | wols | Drgdhmstr: that is terminally stupid to allow |
| 13:16.18 | Drgdhmstr | The problem is that Samba doesn't run as root by default. |
| 13:16.49 | wols | Drgdhmstr: of course it does run as root |
| 13:16.56 | Drgdhmstr | wols: The Windows NT 4/2000/2003 servers are able to do this. |
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| 13:17.18 | wols | sure, so is debian, but it's stupid. in both instances |
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| 13:18.04 | Drgdhmstr | Well, I don't see the problem as long as the NT 4 machines are trustworthy. |
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| 13:18.42 | Drgdhmstr | So, there must be a way to change the /etc/rc so that Samba is root. |
| 13:18.58 | Drgdhmstr | Afterall, /sbin/init is running as root. |
| 13:19.00 | wols | samba is always root |
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| 13:19.08 | Drgdhmstr | Oh. |
| 13:19.21 | wols | root 3009 0.0 0.3 10504 932 ? S Mar16 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D |
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| 13:20.12 | Drgdhmstr | Then I need to disable Samba's compliance with file system permissions. |
| 13:20.14 | Esine | Hey. Are there any programs available that'd execute a command on X11 keypress? I'm looking for something that I can use even when the keyboard input is captured by another program (say, a fullscreen 3d game), so the window manager keybindings don't really help there. |
| 13:20.38 | wols | Drgdhmstr: no you don't (and you cannot) |
| 13:21.19 | Drgdhmstr | Esine: Read http://www.delta-xi.net/index.php?/archives/21-X11-Keylogger-wo-root-permissions.html |
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| 13:22.37 | Esine | .. I'm actually looking for something that allows me to specify a hotkey like Meta+F10 and then execute a program I specify. |
| 13:22.40 | Drgdhmstr | Esine: Maybe you can use Xlib.h and write a program in C to do this and put it on sourceforge, unless someone else knows of a program that does this. |
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| 13:23.02 | Esine | I *could* write a C program to do it, I've played with XGrabKeyboard before, but I thought maybe there is a ready program for it |
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| 13:23.38 | Esine | Thanks for the idea, Drgdhmstr. I guess I'll do that then as I have nothing else worthwhile to do :) |
| 13:23.48 | Drgdhmstr | Maybe xbindkeys? |
| 13:24.01 | Esine | Sounds familiar. I'll try that |
| 13:24.04 | Drgdhmstr | Esine: I'm Binging around for a solution. |
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| 13:24.12 | Esine | wow, I didn't know anyone uses Bing :) |
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| 13:24.22 | Drgdhmstr | http://www.astahost.com/info.php/Hotkeys-Keyboard-Quick-Launch-Keys-Linux_t1813.html might work |
| 13:25.09 | Drgdhmstr | Esine: No one does, I just say Bing to piss off bingphobes. |
| 13:25.19 | Esine | Heh, I see. How nice |
| 13:25.21 | Drgdhmstr | *microsoftphobes |
| 13:26.13 | Drgdhmstr | Okay, anyone know how to get Samba to allow guest users (over CIFS or SMB) to modify any file regardless of permissions? |
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| 13:26.34 | Drgdhmstr | I'm considering doing chmod -R 755 / |
| 13:26.54 | Drgdhmstr | The problem is, that takes too long. |
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| 13:28.37 | Esine | Drgdhmstr: xbindkeys is the one I needed. Thank you so much. |
| 13:28.40 | wols | Drgdhmstr: the problem is, afterwards your debian is irreversibly broken |
| 13:28.42 | Drgdhmstr | mp :) |
| 13:28.52 | Drgdhmstr | *np |
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| 13:29.32 | Drgdhmstr | wols: Hmm, I guess it depends if that means broken to the point of failing to boot to login. |
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| 13:31.24 | Drgdhmstr | You know, I'm not so sure granting write permissions to all of / is such a great idea now. Especially since the NT 4 machines are accessible from the Internet. |
| 13:31.44 | Drgdhmstr | I'll hold off and just chmod some subdirectories. |
| 13:32.20 | sansen | Drgdhmstr, try edictin /etc/samba/samba.conf |
| 13:34.21 | sansen | MadonnaLikeAFork, sorry /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 13:35.10 | MadonnaLikeAFork | Yeah, I've edited that quite a bit already. I think I'm just going to leave it with just some specific directories changed after considering wols' argument. |
| 13:35.21 | MadonnaLikeAFork | Thanks guys. |
| 13:35.38 | sansen | ok |
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| 13:44.39 | Devastator | I have a notebook here from my dad, he wants dual boot, should I install linux first and then....? |
| 13:46.17 | wols | Devastator: no. first windows, then linux |
| 13:46.53 | dutchfish | Devastator: windows will overwrite crucial parts on install (bootsector) |
| 13:47.49 | Devastator | I thought about that.. but wasn't sure.. |
| 13:48.01 | Devastator | but I think he will figure grub easily |
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| 14:04.46 | babylinux | hello ,anyone? |
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| 14:06.48 | wols | yes? |
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| 14:07.51 | Aldous | Hi, I want to install ROOT from sources ("make debian") and I get the message that ruby.h was not found, yet I tried it with libruby1.8 and with libruby1.9 installed |
| 14:07.51 | Aldous | (btw I'm newbie to make and irc, please tell me if I'm wrong here, thanks) |
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| 14:08.37 | wols | Aldous: you need the -dev package for your ruby version |
| 14:08.40 | Devastator | is lenny-backports a good call for people that never used linux before? |
| 14:09.00 | wols | Devastator: rephrase the question |
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| 14:09.17 | Aldous | I tried it with ruby1.8-dev, yet it didnt work |
| 14:10.12 | Devastator | wols well, you already know the scenario, my dad never used linux before, so I'm thinking about installing lenny with backports, for more updated packages and being safe too |
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| 14:10.36 | wols | Devastator: what has that to do with being safe? |
| 14:11.12 | wols | Aldous: ruby.h is in the ruby -dev package. if your compiler didn#t find it you need to deal with the places where your compielr looks for include files |
| 14:11.19 | wols | Aldous: what are you trying to compile exactly? |
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| 14:11.30 | Devastator | wols a package is only backported if doesn't break lenny, correct? |
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| 14:12.28 | wols | yes. but when he upgrades to squeeze when this is stable, his backports will/might cause problems upgrading |
| 14:13.15 | asperon | hi guys, i am having some problems with my debian box (lenny), i did an apt-get upgrade this morning, and then i reflashed the router, and now it refuses to connect to the net. dhcp fails, and If i give it as static ip it still cant access anything. All my other machines work fine. if i remove the cable it detects that |
| 14:13.20 | asperon | any idea what might be wrong? |
| 14:13.26 | Devastator | but that can take a few years yet.. correct? |
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| 14:13.37 | asperon | hi wols, long time no see |
| 14:14.01 | wols | Devastator: while debian is slow with releasing new versions, not THAT slow. squueze will take ~12 months now |
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| 14:14.17 | Pinchiukas | Why does debian want to install exim along with mysql-server? |
| 14:14.29 | wols | Pinchiukas: cause it always needs an MTA |
| 14:14.44 | wols | Pinchiukas: you must have done a lot of things to not have any |
| 14:15.07 | wols | asperon: what NIC chip? |
| 14:15.29 | asperon | wols: nvidia |
| 14:15.41 | asperon | just tested on my debian laptop, that works as expected |
| 14:15.42 | Aldous | I got root_v5.26.00.source.tar.gz from ftp://root.cern.ch/root and unpacked it, then I used ./configure and "make debian", and installed all the packages requested, then did another run of make and so on, but now it's stuck, because ruby.h isn't found |
| 14:16.01 | wols | Aldous: I told you |
| 14:16.04 | asperon | is there anyway to see what packages were updated this morning? |
| 14:16.11 | wols | asperon: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 14:16.27 | asperon | ok, ill have a look there to see if that could be the cause |
| 14:16.31 | Pinchiukas | wols: "to not have any"? |
| 14:16.39 | Pinchiukas | wols: can I use a different MTA somehow? |
| 14:17.04 | wols | Pinchiukas: nullmailer, ssmtp and so on |
| 14:17.13 | wols | they're vers small and ressource friendly |
| 14:17.30 | wols | every debian system has a MTA. if it doesn't, it's broken |
| 14:17.34 | Pinchiukas | wols: I know, but why doesn't anybody let me know I can choose stuff other than exim? |
| 14:18.00 | wols | cause exim is the default unless you specify something, that is what is used |
| 14:18.25 | wols | and you can easily search for "MTA" and get about a dozen alternatives. almost everything in debian has alternatives |
| 14:18.34 | Pinchiukas | How do I "specify something"? |
| 14:18.43 | wols | asperon: same kernel version on notebook and desktop? |
| 14:18.49 | wols | Pinchiukas: you install it |
| 14:18.53 | asperon | it did remove the bcrelay package, which has something to do with broadcast and so |
| 14:19.00 | asperon | wols: probably not, let me check |
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| 14:19.04 | Pinchiukas | wols: so if I install ssmtp, mysql-server will no longer install exim? |
| 14:19.04 | wols | if you install an old MTA, the onld ones is uninstalled |
| 14:19.11 | wols | Pinchiukas: yes |
| 14:19.20 | Pinchiukas | It seems I don't have an MTA at the moment. :) |
| 14:19.25 | Pinchiukas | And I don't even intend to need it. |
| 14:19.46 | wols | Pinchiukas: as I said, you must have done something very bad. you cannot just run without unless you explicitly tell debian not to |
| 14:19.55 | asperon | server is 2.6.26, laptop is 2.6.29 |
| 14:20.00 | wols | you don't need it but programs do. like crond |
| 14:20.04 | Pinchiukas | wols: I installed as little stuff as I could. :) |
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| 14:20.23 | wols | asperon: hmm... you can use a 2.6.32 backports kernel if you want |
| 14:20.46 | wols | Pinchiukas: doesn't matter. exim is ALWAYS there. it's part of the base install. no exim, no debian |
| 14:21.00 | wols | Pinchiukas: disable recommends in apt btw |
| 14:21.01 | asperon | wols: think that would help? |
| 14:21.23 | wols | asperon: it's a shot... forcedeth is old, so it's kinda strange |
| 14:21.33 | Pinchiukas | wols: "disable recommends in apt"? |
| 14:21.33 | wols | not that much has changed there with recent years |
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| 14:21.52 | asperon | wols: ok, so i get the deb and put it on a usb, or? |
| 14:22.02 | wols | asperon: yes |
| 14:23.02 | wols | asperon: but I'd check the router firmware too so nothing has changed there either |
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| 14:23.25 | asperon | wols: its a dlink, and the windows boxes, the ps3 and the debian laptop likes it |
| 14:23.34 | asperon | not really sure what could have changed |
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| 14:23.59 | wols | something like only allowing certain MACs or such? dunno |
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| 14:26.11 | asperon | wols: i removed the router and plugged the box directly to the wall, still no DHCP response |
| 14:26.29 | asperon | is there a way to check that the module is loaded, and perhaps to unload it and load it again or something like that |
| 14:26.43 | asperon | since it worked this morning if feel is strange that it just stopped |
| 14:27.04 | Brain | hi |
| 14:27.09 | Brain | i just noticed something really odd |
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| 14:27.38 | Brain | when going to update my system i couldnt, because /boot wasnt mounted. so i went to mount it, that worked... well i thought maybe i want it mounted all the time, so that its easier to do grub updates thru synaptic etc |
| 14:27.43 | Brain | well this is where i found the prbolem |
| 14:27.45 | wols | asperon: lsmod. the module should be "forcedeth" |
| 14:27.46 | Brain | problem* |
| 14:27.53 | Brain | i went to edit the fstab.... and this is all it has in it: |
| 14:27.54 | Brain | # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM |
| 14:27.59 | Brain | so where is my fstab on debian stable? |
| 14:28.11 | Brain | surely its mounting / etc from something, right? |
| 14:28.35 | wols | Brain: the installer should have created it. what debian is this exactly and installed how? |
| 14:28.57 | Brain | 5.0.4 |
| 14:29.10 | Brain | and installed from netinstall, a couple of months ago |
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| 14:29.56 | wols | asperon: what does "ifconfig -a" say? |
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| 14:30.09 | equijada | Hi! |
| 14:30.11 | asperon | wols: its there, and since i have a eth0 that i can up/down and that reacts to loss of link i guess its ok, let me check |
| 14:30.23 | Brain | so are you saying somethings wiped my fstab, wols? |
| 14:30.26 | equijada | how can I execute a command from my linux server to windows? |
| 14:30.35 | Brain | because the system did boot ok when i booted it after installing it...# |
| 14:30.51 | asperon | wols: it ses eth0 and lo |
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| 14:31.22 | Pinchiukas | wols: "disable recommends in apt"? |
| 14:31.28 | wols | Brain: sounds like there never was an fstab. / gets mounted by kernel on bootup |
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| 14:31.37 | Brain | the file hasnt been modified since the system install on 14th feb it seems |
| 14:31.38 | wols | Brain: do you have a swap? |
| 14:31.39 | Brain | hmm, it does? |
| 14:31.51 | Brain | since when, i thought it had to be remounted rw when runlevel 3 is entered |
| 14:31.51 | wols | Brain: yes: root=/dev/sda1 or whatever |
| 14:31.53 | Brain | otherwise it stays ro |
| 14:32.04 | Brain | has that changed? |
| 14:32.21 | wols | it is mounted ro via "ro" parameter iirc yes. again: do you have swap? |
| 14:32.21 | equijada | how execute and program from linux to another server with linux |
| 14:32.23 | equijada | ? |
| 14:32.47 | JPT | if you are logged in via ssh, you just ./execute --your-programm |
| 14:32.50 | Brain | im not sure wols, i dont think i ever created a swap |
| 14:32.58 | Brain | sec |
| 14:33.03 | wols | Brain: "mount" |
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| 14:33.08 | Brain | no i dont have swap |
| 14:34.00 | Brain | there was a swap partition on this drive from when it ran gentoo |
| 14:34.03 | Brain | i bet it just isnt using it |
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| 14:34.14 | equijada | JPT: no , i cant run that way |
| 14:34.19 | asperon | wols: http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/linux-image-2.6-686 the one i want? just get that deb or do i need anything else? |
| 14:34.29 | JPT | why? :) |
| 14:34.31 | cmtptr | What's the difference between fakechroot and schroot? |
| 14:34.32 | wols | yes, get the deb. all that's needed |
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| 14:34.44 | Brain | yeah fstab shows /dev/hda2 as swap, which isnt mounted |
| 14:34.58 | wols | Brain: your fstab doesn't show anything... |
| 14:35.03 | equijada | i need can execute for remote |
| 14:35.17 | Brain | yeah, which is why its not being used |
| 14:35.25 | Brain | i guess im going to have to create an fstab, thanks wols |
| 14:35.58 | wols | equijada: unless you tell us properly what you want, no one can help you. what you said so far isn't helpful |
| 14:36.14 | JPT | help us to help you :) |
| 14:36.21 | wols | !tell equijada about es |
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| 14:37.19 | equijada | wols: I have a debain server and I need from my server to run a program in another server with windows |
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| 14:39.00 | wols | equijada: you still talk gibberish. you need to explain what you want to run and the hosts involved more clearly |
| 14:39.06 | amz | How mount windows partions? in gnome when i wanna mount it say i have no access, i edit via root fstab http://wklej.to/ul2y/text and reboot and still dont have in /media only cd-rom :/ |
| 14:39.59 | wols | amz: what is the outpout of "mount /media/win1 |
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| 14:40.16 | amz | wols: mount: mount point /media/win1 does not exist |
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| 14:40.27 | amz | root@debian:/media# ls |
| 14:40.28 | amz | cdrom cdrom0 |
| 14:40.36 | wols | amz: now you know why |
| 14:40.42 | asperon | wols: the packages are like 2.6Kb? cant be right can it? |
| 14:40.43 | amz | so.. where is problem |
| 14:40.52 | wols | asperon: it's a few MB as usual |
| 14:41.09 | amz | how fix it |
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| 14:41.22 | action09 | amz you don't have the directories created |
| 14:41.25 | action09 | no ? |
| 14:41.28 | amz | hmm |
| 14:41.31 | amz | i should do dirs? |
| 14:41.40 | wols | asperon: http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/i386/linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.2-686/download |
| 14:41.40 | asperon | wols: linux-image-2.6 i want to be looking for? |
| 14:41.42 | equijada | wols: I need a run a program that create a file. Thsi file I need to send to debian after finish |
| 14:41.47 | asperon | wols: thnx |
| 14:41.47 | Pinchiukas | wols: what do you mean by "disable recommends in apt"? |
| 14:41.49 | equijada | the host are just two |
| 14:41.56 | equijada | debian lenny and WinXP |
| 14:41.58 | wols | !recommends |
| 14:42.02 | amz | okok reboot |
| 14:42.39 | action09 | amz you're trying to mount a partition /dev/sda2 to your filesystem in a directory: /media/win e.g... /medi/win must exist before mounting it |
| 14:42.49 | wols | !tell Pinchiukas about apt recommends |
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| 14:43.13 | action09 | amz i personnaly put in my /etc/fstab for my windows partition: /dev/sda1 /mnt/win ntfs-3g rw,user,auto,gid=100,uid=1000,nls=utf8,umask=002 0 0 |
| 14:43.48 | amz | please pastebin |
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| 14:44.01 | amz | because on irc it is parsed |
| 14:44.16 | action09 | oups sorry |
| 14:44.19 | action09 | amz http://pastebin.com/mLj3AxjJ |
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| 14:46.15 | Pinchiukas | wols: can I somehow remove the recommended packages I already installed? :) |
| 14:47.04 | wols | sure: aptitude remove :) |
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| 14:47.20 | Pinchiukas | wols: how about finding them? :) |
| 14:47.28 | Pinchiukas | I mean I dont' remember all of them. |
| 14:47.34 | action09 | dpkg -l |
| 14:47.34 | dpkg | action09: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 14:48.01 | Pinchiukas | :) |
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| 14:57.14 | Devastator | need suggestions here: hdd has 40GB and I think there's another small hdd (1GB) for recovering, but I've removed that... so generally I create a partition for windows, a partition for backup, a partition for linux root and a swap partition, how you guys suggest the size of partitions? 15GB for win, 10gb for backup, 10GB linux root and 3gb swap? |
| 14:57.45 | asperon | looks like somebody fixed the random loading order of sata interface cards in the .32 kernel, problem is that it is now loading the in the wrong order, ie my sda1 where the system is is loaded as sde1, how do i fix that? |
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| 14:57.53 | wols | back on a partition? what's the point? |
| 14:58.24 | wols | asperon: first driver gets first dibs on sda IIRC |
| 14:58.39 | asperon | wols: in the .26 kernel its completly random |
| 14:58.39 | Devastator | wols if I need to reinstall the poor system from MS, I don't lose my files |
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| 14:58.43 | wols | asperon: to circumvent all that sdX stuff, you could use UUIDs |
| 14:58.53 | asperon | wols: how would i do that? |
| 14:59.12 | wols | !tell asperon about uuid |
| 14:59.21 | wols | asperon: also check the finduuid factoid |
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| 15:00.08 | asperon | wols, so change in menu.lst from /dev/sda1 to UUID=whatever |
| 15:00.09 | hellyeah | hey |
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| 15:00.23 | hellyeah | is there someone who can help me to install e17 |
| 15:00.30 | asperon | and it should load? or do i need to change in fstab as well? |
| 15:00.50 | Milp | Hey guys, ive got a problem: My debian has got a wifi connection and even though its supposed to work, i cant ping anything through it, not even the router. How would i go about solving this problem? |
| 15:00.53 | wols | asperon: basically yes. fstab too |
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| 15:01.01 | asperon | wols: ill give it a try, thanks |
| 15:02.07 | Devastator | wols hwo did you partition in my case? |
| 15:03.48 | wols | Devastator: approx 10GB or so linux, rest windows |
| 15:03.59 | wols | but it depends which OS is used more |
| 15:04.05 | Milp | nevermind, dhclient fixed it :) |
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| 15:05.55 | Devastator | wols I think he will use windows more at first.. 10GB including swap? also, I think I will create a backup partition just in case, I had bad experiencies in the past.. windows crashing and couldn't recover my docs |
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| 15:09.13 | _abc_ | What is the exect order of scrips executed related to audio mixer setup on debian with alsa installed? |
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| 15:10.28 | dbbolton | when i try to launch nm-applet i get this error http://paste.debian.net/64998/ |
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| 15:11.00 | cico | Is Chrome available on Squeeze? |
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| 15:13.43 | hellyeah | it seems it is not possible to install e17 in debian |
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| 15:15.14 | asperon | wols: still cant get it to boot the .32, i changed the /dev/sda1 in fstab ti UUID=blabla and in menu.lst i changed /dev/sda1 to UUID=blaba (and ran update-grub), it still tries to load the system from /dev/sda1 from what i can tell |
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| 15:16.45 | wols | asperon: what does the kernel say and where exactly (what line) did you change to UUID in menu.lst? |
| 15:17.29 | hellyeah | give me a way |
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| 15:17.58 | SimManiac | hi |
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| 15:18.30 | asperon | wols: on the second line (not the root (1,1) or what ever it says) but the one that ends with ro |
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| 15:19.18 | asperon | wols: it complains that it cant find the restore device (which seems to be the swap) and if i press enter to ignore it fails to find the /sbin/init or something, i can got check |
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| 15:19.50 | wols | asperon: what does the menu.lst line start with where you edit it? |
| 15:21.46 | asperon | wols: seems like update-grub changed it back |
| 15:21.56 | wols | asperon: hence why I asked what line you changed... |
| 15:22.13 | asperon | let me get you the exact line |
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| 15:22.29 | hellyeah | told me if there is no way |
| 15:22.30 | wols | you change it in the "# groot" line. note the # comment letter and don't remove it |
| 15:22.45 | wols | !tell hellyeah about ssb |
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| 15:24.19 | asperon | wols: no, i probably changed it at the end, where update-grub overwrote it, i could just try to change it manually in grub at boot right? |
| 15:24.41 | wols | asperon: yes, but then you had to do that everytime you boot |
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| 15:32.05 | wols | asperon: all well? |
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| 15:33.20 | asperon | wols: its getting there, how do i tell it where to find the swap? |
| 15:33.28 | asperon | blkid doesn't give me a id for the swap |
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| 15:33.50 | asperon | and it still breaks on not begin able to find the swap on /dev/sda5 |
| 15:34.24 | king313 | Hi. I am searching for a compiz theme manager. I have read about Emerald but it does not longer appear at the repositories |
| 15:34.26 | king313 | (http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=emerald&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all&sourceid=mozilla-search) |
| 15:34.42 | king313 | Have it changed it name? They are other theme manager that I could use? |
| 15:34.44 | wols | asperon: if your swap has non, mkswap the partition again, but swapoff -a first |
| 15:34.51 | asperon | wols: ok |
| 15:34.52 | wols | then it should have a uuid you can see with blkid |
| 15:35.01 | king313 | All posts I found are from 2007 and references Emerald. Thanks |
| 15:35.24 | \amethyst | [a-z][a-z]_[A-Z][A-Z] |
| 15:35.25 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 15:37.16 | jason_m | Hi all, I am building a new system and attempting to install debian from a USB stick. I am following the "easy way" instructions here:http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#id3107699 For the final step, copying an install image to the drive, i picked "mini.iso" from the amd64/current/images/netboot directory. When the installer starts up, it tells me no installer image can be found. I went out to a rescue shell |
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| 15:38.03 | wols | jason_m: how big is this "mini.iso"? |
| 15:38.10 | asperon | wols: looks like i wasn't using the swap anyway |
| 15:38.18 | asperon | wols: sadly this didn't fix the problem |
| 15:38.24 | asperon | still cant access the net |
| 15:38.32 | wols | asperon: what does dmesg say? |
| 15:38.46 | jason_m | wols: 8.4MB |
| 15:38.50 | asperon | wols: about? |
| 15:39.09 | wols | jason_m: that is no debian installer |
| 15:39.18 | wols | jason_m: get the ~150MB netinst iso |
| 15:39.28 | wols | asperon: your network interface mainly |
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| 15:40.49 | asperon | 6-7 lines about forcedeth, last one is that it loads to irq 28 for msi/msi-x |
| 15:41.14 | asperon | the device is there, i can ping myself (both on the ip and 127), but thats it |
| 15:41.15 | wols | msi-x? |
| 15:41.27 | wols | does it say something like "eth0 up"? |
| 15:43.27 | asperon | yes |
| 15:43.40 | asperon | and i see it if i do ifconfig |
| 15:43.50 | asperon | and if i pull the cable it reacts on that as well |
| 15:43.54 | jason_m | wols: sounds like it should be easy, but i'm struggling to find that image. the install guide keeps pointing me to http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-amd64/current/images/ |
| 15:44.02 | wols | what speed does it say is it using? |
| 15:44.41 | asperon | ill check |
| 15:45.07 | wols | jason_m: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/amd64/iso-cd/debian-504-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 15:46.05 | asperon | wols: cant see any speed indications, i have a complaint about not finding any ip6 routers |
| 15:46.14 | asperon | where should the speed be, in dmesg? |
| 15:46.32 | wols | in the eth0 up message usually. if not ethtool can tell you |
| 15:46.47 | jason_m | thanks wols, i will give that image a try. |
| 15:46.54 | jamesstanley | I'm looking to buy a computer similar to the Dell PowerEdge T105, but with provision for a PCI-e graphics card. Anyone have any advice on where to buy? I'm in England if that helps |
| 15:46.57 | wols | asperon: do you have a debian install cd or a live cd? |
| 15:47.10 | wols | jamesstanley: ##hardware |
| 15:47.14 | jamesstanley | ok thanks |
| 15:47.15 | asperon | the box doesn't have a cddrive :( |
| 15:47.24 | xyan | asperon: does "route" show a default gateway? |
| 15:47.31 | asperon | xyan: let me check |
| 15:47.55 | king313 | Hi. I am searching for a compiz theme manager. I have read about Emerald but it does not longer appear at the repositories |
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| 15:47.58 | king313 | Have it changed it name? They are other theme manager that I could use? |
| 15:48.01 | king313 | All posts I found are from 2007 and references Emerald. Thanks |
| 15:48.04 | asperon | no, its empty |
| 15:48.10 | xyan | route add default gw <gateway_ip> |
| 15:48.18 | asperon | guess that could have happend when i messed around with pptpd |
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| 15:50.25 | wols | asperon: did you configure your static IP via /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 15:50.31 | asperon | wols: yes |
| 15:50.45 | asperon | xyan: that just gives me no such proces |
| 15:50.53 | asperon | ie, route add default gw 192.168.0.1 |
| 15:51.14 | wols | asperon: are you root? |
| 15:51.15 | xyan | yep you dont have the network if route is empty, /etc/init.d/networking restart then |
| 15:51.26 | wols | you should have /sbin/route |
| 15:51.36 | king313 | asperon, what is your local ip and netmask? |
| 15:51.41 | wols | xyan: local subnet works fine without a route |
| 15:52.09 | xyan | wols: but you cant add the default gateway withouth having the network for that gateway |
| 15:52.11 | king313 | I have received that message sometimes when defining a gateway that is out of netmask |
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| 15:52.54 | asperon | it was empty due to the failed dhcp, when i changed it back to static the route contains two lines |
| 15:53.11 | xyan | asperon: good should work then? |
| 15:53.16 | asperon | xyan: doesn't |
| 15:53.32 | xyan | paste your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:53.35 | xyan | pastebin* |
| 15:53.55 | asperon | well, the machine is not connected to the net, and in the other room, ill bing the laptop |
| 15:54.07 | wols | asperon: can you try a livecd? |
| 15:54.18 | xyan | he said he doesnt have a cd drive there |
| 15:54.25 | xyan | oh |
| 15:54.29 | wols | usb stick? |
| 15:54.36 | xyan | messed it up |
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| 15:57.13 | xyan | asperon: can you ping the machine from your laptop? |
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| 15:58.30 | asperon2 | interfaces: http://paste2.org/p/726458 |
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| 15:59.36 | xyan | asperon2: thats fine, resolv.conf set up properly as well? |
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| 16:00.32 | xyan | asperon2: can you ping 192.168.0.4 from your other machine? |
| 16:00.32 | asperon2 | xyan: no |
| 16:00.43 | xyan | but switch/router port inbetween works? |
| 16:00.50 | xyan | in the end forcedeth nvidia crap cant autosense the link and the cable is crossover or something :-) |
| 16:01.01 | asperon2 | resolv contains search and three nameserver |
| 16:01.21 | asperon2 | thing is, it worked until this morning, ill change the cable just for the hell of it |
| 16:01.24 | _abc_ | Guys is there a mod for kde which causes desktop icons to be 'sticky' to the relevant virtual screen? Because apps can be sticky but icons not, and I have hundreds of them. |
| 16:03.22 | _abc_ | I mean a normal application windo decoration has the right-click-on-decoration option 'To Desktop...', but icons don't. Is there a patch or mod or a newer kde version which can do that? |
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| 16:04.14 | asperon2 | still nothing, i get destination host is unreachable trying to ping the router |
| 16:04.26 | xyan | _abc_: i guess theres a #kde chennel which might be more helpful |
| 16:04.33 | asperon2 | or anything else for that matter |
| 16:04.39 | xyan | asperon2: you didnt change anything in your bios, or had a power outrage or something which might have damaged the nic? |
| 16:04.47 | asperon2 | xyan: no |
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| 16:05.21 | asperon2 | its on UPS, and the only thing i did this morning was an upt-get upgrade that upgrade some php packages |
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| 16:05.49 | hellyeah | hey |
| 16:05.51 | hellyeah | E: /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_151-3_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| 16:06.02 | hellyeah | how can i fix this error |
| 16:06.06 | wols | hellyeah: that is not the error |
| 16:06.24 | hellyeah | but i couldnt install e17 package |
| 16:06.30 | hellyeah | what is this message about |
| 16:06.31 | hellyeah | ? |
| 16:06.42 | wols | hellyeah: give us the FIRST error |
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| 16:06.58 | wols | ,versions udev |
| 16:06.59 | judd | udev -- etch: 0.105-4; etch-security: 0.105-4etch1; lenny-security: 0.125-7+lenny1; lenny: 0.125-7+lenny3; squeeze: 151-2; sid: 151-3 |
| 16:07.06 | xyan | asperon2: i tried to drive a 5v pci card in a 3.3v slot once after that my nic didnt work anymore showing similar symptoms as yours does. it solved itself by completly taking the machine off the line but yeah im clueless |
| 16:07.09 | wols | hellyeah: you should not run squeeze |
| 16:07.47 | king313 | Hi guys. I've installed emerald from a non-official repository and now I want to get back the updated packages |
| 16:08.00 | adb | udev_151-3_i386 its ..sid |
| 16:08.09 | king313 | how I can get it done? It now says things about not resolved dependencies |
| 16:08.11 | asperon2 | xyan: haven't opened the box in moths, sure, it could have dies on its own, but i kinda doubt that |
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| 16:09.39 | hellyeah | i want to install e17 e17 is in sid |
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| 16:11.05 | xyan | hellyeah: id try the elive cd instead ;-) |
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| 16:12.55 | asperon | just to make sure that it wasn't the port on the router i connected it to the switch that is running this box, still the same problem |
| 16:13.50 | hellyeah | xyan, |
| 16:13.57 | hellyeah | elive cd wants money |
| 16:13.59 | ishanj | Hi, does this channel related to debian development? |
| 16:14.00 | wols | hellyeah: why didn't you google for it? |
| 16:14.02 | hellyeah | or article :D |
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| 16:14.13 | hellyeah | wols since 11 a.m i am in google |
| 16:14.37 | wols | I did one google search and found e17 for debian lenny immediately. englightenment has its own debian repos |
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| 16:14.48 | hellyeah | i try 5, 6 ways to install enlightenment |
| 16:14.59 | hellyeah | wols, |
| 16:15.03 | hellyeah | i found that also |
| 16:15.07 | hellyeah | that doesnt work |
| 16:15.13 | hellyeah | i re try |
| 16:15.20 | dustybin | hellyeah: be a man and compile it yourself |
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| 16:16.42 | wols | !tell hellyeah about ssb |
| 16:16.44 | asperon | so, should i assume that the nic is fried? shouldn't the driver complain? |
| 16:17.03 | wols | asperon: I asked long ago about live cds/usb sticks... |
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| 16:18.35 | hellyeah | wols, you sent me that adres i try that method and i see udev error |
| 16:18.44 | asperon | wols: right, ill get a live usb stick and try that |
| 16:19.35 | wols | hellyeah: I sent you what exactly? |
| 16:19.49 | wols | hellyeah: if you mean ssb, then no you did it totally utterly wrong |
| 16:19.50 | bosyak | I have installed java sun jdk6 from package... What I should write in JAVA_HOME env? |
| 16:20.03 | wols | hellyeah: cause ssb factoid will not install udev ever |
| 16:20.08 | bosyak | ? /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/ |
| 16:20.32 | hellyeah | i do deb-src sid |
| 16:21.00 | wols | hellyeah: that won't isntall udev... |
| 16:21.09 | hellyeah | then pt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source e17 |
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| 16:21.28 | wols | hellyeah: pastebin your sources.list |
| 16:21.30 | hellyeah | then i ddi this and i try to install other packages related to e17 |
| 16:21.36 | wols | ,versions udev |
| 16:21.38 | judd | udev -- etch: 0.105-4; etch-security: 0.105-4etch1; lenny-security: 0.125-7+lenny1; lenny: 0.125-7+lenny3; squeeze: 151-2; sid: 151-3 |
| 16:22.40 | wols | hellyeah: you have a deb sid source in your sources.list. otherwise, this udev version could have never ben downloaded. however, the ssb factoid never tells you to put a deb sid source in there. so YOU did something you are not supposed to do |
| 16:22.42 | xyan | hellyeah: http://elive.icedslash.com/isos/stable/ |
| 16:23.11 | hellyeah | wols, http://paste.org/pastebin/view/16515 |
| 16:24.04 | hellyeah | xyan, i tried this already |
| 16:24.13 | hellyeah | and i put file to usb |
| 16:24.47 | hellyeah | but elive developer wants money as donate. I dont have suitable web card |
| 16:24.58 | hellyeah | or want an arnowledgeticle i dont have anough k |
| 16:25.03 | hellyeah | how can i write article |
| 16:25.07 | wols | hellyeah: who told you to put deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib in your sources.list? |
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| 16:26.14 | hellyeah | normally i put ftp.us.debian.org. but that doesnt work. |
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| 16:26.58 | hellyeah | alphagemini does not work also |
| 16:27.01 | wols | the hostname is not the point. who told you to put sid repos for binary packages in your sources.list? |
| 16:27.02 | hellyeah | i try this |
| 16:27.09 | joeliasjunior | Hello people, anyone here knows how to recovery a ext3 deleted folder? |
| 16:27.20 | wols | !undelete |
| 16:27.21 | dpkg | Linux doesn't generally support 'undeleting' files. For ext2fs *only*, use mc (Midnight Commander), umount the fs, and select "Undelete files" from menu. For ext3fs, see http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and ask me about <ext3grep>. With reiserfs, jfs, xfs, you're SooL. Some desktops (GNOME/KDE) offer a trash bin. See also <photorec>. |
| 16:27.21 | hellyeah | sorry wrong channel |
| 16:27.57 | xyan | joeliasjunior: google does, http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html but be aware its hard work |
| 16:28.32 | hellyeah | wols my sources.list is wronf |
| 16:28.35 | hellyeah | wrong* |
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| 16:31.24 | joeliasjunior | xyan: and dpkg: Thank you! I have seen this article, but seems doesn't work with my problem. I need to recovery a folder in a remote server and I have no enouth space there to recovery all the partition. |
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| 16:32.19 | MrWax | Hello, I already asked this some mins ago, but i couldn't find anything that would fix it. I use Sun Virtualbox, I have a .vdi Debian image that I imported from an earlier installation. When reading the debian disk nothing is accesible because the root filesystem is 'read-only' - Is there any easy step I can take to fix this issue? |
| 16:33.16 | pallgone | I can't install qemu on squeeze: http://paste.debian.net/65017/ |
| 16:33.21 | pallgone | what does that mean? |
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| 16:34.01 | xyan | MrWax: is it remounted ro on errors? did you run fsck on it yet? |
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| 16:35.06 | MrWax | xyan: how can i check? |
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| 16:35.09 | MrWax | xyan: sup btw :) |
| 16:35.57 | xyan | MrWax: boot the vm, do a touch /forcefsck and reboot it |
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| 16:36.17 | petemc | you'll have trouble touching a file on a read only fs |
| 16:36.36 | petemc | maybe try mount -o remount, rw / |
| 16:36.37 | todd_ | howdy all |
| 16:36.56 | petemc | mount -o remount,rw / |
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| 16:38.07 | todd_ | looking for help with sound on my system |
| 16:38.39 | MrWax | petemc: and then? |
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| 16:38.51 | petemc | MrWax: does remounting it rw work? |
| 16:39.19 | petemc | MrWax: you'll probably want to fsck it as xyan said, check dmesg/messages/syslog |
| 16:39.24 | cahoot | todd_: what does speaker-test -t wav -c2 return? |
| 16:40.02 | MrWax | petemc: yes, no errors |
| 16:40.05 | MrWax | petemc: how can i test? |
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| 16:40.13 | todd_ | I hear it saying "front left" "front right" |
| 16:40.23 | petemc | MrWax: touch /forcefsck |
| 16:40.30 | cahoot | todd_: so sound is basically ok? |
| 16:40.47 | MrWax | petemc: done |
| 16:40.51 | todd_ | yes, sorta |
| 16:41.09 | petemc | MrWax: reboot to do the fsck |
| 16:41.18 | todd_ | I don't get sounds from games or apps |
| 16:41.23 | todd_ | no system sounds |
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| 16:41.53 | cahoot | todd_: that's probably a matter of choosing the right output |
| 16:41.56 | Pinchiukas | Anybody can tell me where the binary 'php' resides? Or what package it's in. I seem to have the php apache module, but not the cli binary. |
| 16:42.02 | asperon | wols: the live usb stick failed to get a dhcplease as well |
| 16:42.21 | petemc | Pinchiukas: php5-cli |
| 16:42.29 | MrWax | petemc: "fsck died with exit status 4" |
| 16:42.33 | todd_ | I had this issue on my other computer when i installed lenny on it. someone in here helped me. but it's been long enough that I don't remember what we did to get it working |
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| 16:42.50 | xyan | File system errors left uncorrected |
| 16:42.53 | MrWax | petemc: /dev/hda1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY |
| 16:43.02 | Pinchiukas | petemc: thanks. |
| 16:43.03 | MrWax | xyan: ok |
| 16:43.03 | todd_ | and like a bonehead I didn't write it down back then |
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| 16:43.54 | todd_ | I remember it had something to do with something else having control of the sound daemon and we had to kill it, reboot my computer and it worked after that, just don't remember how to do it now |
| 16:43.58 | MrWax | xyan: Directory inode 51706, block 0, offset 0: directory corrupted |
| 16:44.06 | adb | todd_, there is on archive for irc at http://purl.rikers.org/%23debian |
| 16:44.06 | MrWax | xyan: i get errors like this a 723692472 times when running fsck |
| 16:44.35 | todd_ | thanks adb |
| 16:44.43 | xyan | MrWax: what did you do to your vm, acpi power off? |
| 16:44.50 | asperon | wols: same problem when on static ip, guess the card died then?! |
| 16:45.14 | petemc | MrWax: edit /etc/default/rcS to FSCKFIX=yes , touch /forcefsck and reboot |
| 16:46.04 | MrWax | xyan: how do you mean acpi power off? |
| 16:46.16 | xyan | no clean shutdown? |
| 16:46.16 | antivirtel | is animations avaible on lenny ? |
| 16:46.28 | MrWax | xyan: I just shutdown the vm in computer #1 (notebook) and am trying to use the copied .vdi image on Computer #2 |
| 16:46.33 | MrWax | xyan: yes, clean shutdown |
| 16:46.51 | adb | antivirtel, what's 'animations' ? |
| 16:46.53 | xyan | MrWax: md5sum the vdi then sounds like copying went wrong |
| 16:47.27 | antivirtel | adb: compiz ex.. |
| 16:47.28 | asperon | when getting a new nic i guess intel is a good brand, or? |
| 16:47.37 | adb | antivirtel, sure ... |
| 16:47.43 | antivirtel | bot how ? |
| 16:47.45 | antivirtel | *but |
| 16:47.49 | MrWax | petemc: error writing /etc/default/rcS: read-only filesystem |
| 16:47.55 | wols | asperon: with a live cd? and with dhcp too? |
| 16:48.09 | wols | if so, it's either the NIC or the combination NIC/router or the cable |
| 16:48.15 | adb | !tell antivirtel -about compiz |
| 16:48.17 | xyan | MrWax: do the mount -o remount,rw / again |
| 16:49.16 | asperon | wols: i have changed the cable, and tried to plug it directly to the wall, so it has to be the nic i fear |
| 16:49.24 | adb | antivirtel, on which video card ? |
| 16:49.35 | todd_ | adb, is there a way to search purl.rikers.org/%23debian ? If I knew what day (or month/year even) I was getting help it easy, but I can't even remember what part of the year it was. |
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| 16:49.46 | antivirtel | shapphire 3600 hd |
| 16:49.59 | antivirtel | *-p |
| 16:50.17 | adb | antivirtel, ati , nvidia ? |
| 16:50.25 | antivirtel | ati |
| 16:50.53 | MrWax | xyan: its fixing thousands of blocks, this correct?> |
| 16:51.10 | adb | antivirtel, i dunno , still ask here |
| 16:51.40 | adb | todd_, i dunno , sorry |
| 16:51.51 | asperon | anythoughts on usb based nics? |
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| 16:52.02 | todd_ | adb, s'ok, thought I'd ask |
| 16:52.15 | xyan | MrWax: as i said if you cleanly shut down the vm on one machine, copied it over to another and end up with a bokred fs then this is really strange. with a bit of luck that thing boots still but i suggest you copy the vdi again and make sure that the checksum of the original and copied vdi match |
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| 16:54.23 | adb | todd_, i thou , you killed the bell sound ? |
| 16:54.39 | todd_ | killed the bell sound? |
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| 16:54.58 | todd_ | my pc speaker beeps at me from time to time |
| 16:55.00 | MrWax | xyan: ok |
| 16:55.15 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.18 | todd_ | if I go into sound preferences and test the card it works, but under system sounds it won't play anything |
| 16:57.34 | adb | todd_, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/110 |
| 16:57.38 | sander | Anyonw know what it means when "netstat -i" reports 0 RX-OK and lots of RX-ERR ? |
| 16:58.07 | sander | The network is very slow atm. |
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| 16:59.25 | todd_ | so how do I find out what's got control of my sound daemon? |
| 16:59.37 | petemc | sander: i dont think thats much to worry, do you see any errors in syslog or messages? you can use mtr-tiny to show packet loss along hops |
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| 17:00.01 | n0ta | Looking for someone to help me setup /etc/network/interfaces with about 30 ips.. I'll pay you 10 though paypal or somthing. It must be setup perfect :P |
| 17:00.25 | karlpinc_ | sander: Bad hardware? cable, switch port, nic, etc? |
| 17:00.35 | karlpinc_ | n0ta: What's a ips? |
| 17:00.49 | Osmosis | ip's* |
| 17:01.15 | petemc | n0ta: do you have 30 network interfaces? if not, you can easily add a post-up line to use ip addr add |
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| 17:01.51 | MrWax | xyan: ok, but how come it keeps saying, 'unknown file system?' |
| 17:01.57 | MrWax | xyan: i ment 'read-only file system' |
| 17:02.13 | n0ta | yeah, thats what i did with my first 3 ips.. but I recently got a /27 network (32 ips with 27 usable) and then it dont work.. for some reason |
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| 17:02.32 | karlpinc_ | petemc: What's wrong with aliases? lines for eth0:1, etc.? |
| 17:02.37 | petemc | karlpinc_: nothing |
| 17:02.56 | petemc | depends what you want, aliased interfaces or one interface with many ips |
| 17:03.22 | n0ta | Well, I really just want it to work, and easy :D |
| 17:03.44 | xyan | MrWax: fsck didnt finish fixing it? |
| 17:03.48 | n0ta | But I like i said.. i used ip addr add for my 3 additional ips.. but seems not to work with my /27 interface |
| 17:04.07 | Osmosis | n0ta: whats your /27 and gateway ip? |
| 17:04.22 | MrWax | xyan: nop |
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| 17:04.46 | petemc | i have a /27 and use aliased interfaces, it works fine |
| 17:04.53 | karlpinc_ | petemc: I guess I'm out of date. Why do I care one way or the other? |
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| 17:05.25 | n0ta | Well, i got 32.. where the first 4 is: network, gateway, router redundancy 2, router redundancy 3 and last one is broadcast |
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| 17:06.21 | petemc | karlpinc_: other than what i said above, not sure |
| 17:06.28 | jhutchins_lt | Triple router redundancy seems a bit much. |
| 17:06.56 | n0ta | jhutchins_lt not sure to be honest.. thats just what my host told me :P |
| 17:06.58 | jhutchins_lt | n0ta: What are you trying to do? How many actual devices do you have? Do you have a fileserver? Mailserver? |
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| 17:07.26 | n0ta | Well its just one box, that runs "everything" |
| 17:07.31 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, well that makes more sense if they have a large farm. |
| 17:07.39 | jhutchins_lt | n0ta: If you have one box then you need one IP. |
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| 17:07.51 | Osmosis | n0ta, msg me the ip range and ill help you. |
| 17:08.09 | n0ta | jhutchins_lt true, but i still need the other ips :P |
| 17:08.20 | petemc | n0ta: cut and paste your working entry in /etc/network/interfaces a few times, then edit to change eth0 to eth0:2 eth0:2 etc and edit the ip, then ifup eth0:1 |
| 17:08.23 | karlpinc_ | jhutchins_lt: There could be virtualization.... |
| 17:08.38 | petemc | eth0:1 and eth0:2 , i meant |
| 17:09.06 | petemc | there are lots of reasons to want a machine to have many ips |
| 17:10.21 | MrWax | xyan: can the fact that it is not a 'fixed storage' virtual machine, be the reason that the filesystem is corrupt when copied? |
| 17:11.23 | xyan | MrWax: sparse filesystem you mean? i copied them succesfully but moved the machine config as well. did you checksum the vdi's? |
| 17:12.01 | todd_ | ok, well time to go work on my truck's brakes |
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| 17:12.26 | epifanio | Hi All |
| 17:12.50 | MrWax | xyan: my notebook is at work, i cannot check the original version now |
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| 17:13.41 | epifanio | I have 2 external drive on one of this i have a running debian distro, while the second one is empty (1,a : partition ext4 ; 1,b : partition swap) |
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| 17:14.12 | epifanio | exists a way to clone the hard disc 1 into the second one ? |
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| 17:15.20 | epifanio | i used : cat -a /disk/with/linux/* /empty/disc ; but then tring to install the grub on the second disc i have : Format of install device not recognized |
| 17:15.38 | xyan | epifanio: dd, pcopy and some others |
| 17:15.41 | karlpinc_ | epifanio: dd will get you a bit-for-bit copy. That may not be what you want. Try "/msg dpkg aptitude clone". |
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| 17:16.08 | Milp | Why does debian by default come with this weird "iceweasel" thing instead of a real firefox? |
| 17:16.26 | petemc | Milp: /msg dpkg why iceweasel |
| 17:16.34 | Milp | huh? |
| 17:16.49 | swathanthran | how do i give the three hex codes given by showkey like 0x00 0x83 0xa2 with setkeycodes? |
| 17:16.55 | karlpinc_ | Milp: Type what he said. |
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| 17:17.01 | Milp | oh i did |
| 17:17.04 | Milp | thanks |
| 17:17.17 | epifanio | karlpinc_: aptitude clone will install the packages .deb ... what about source code instalation ? |
| 17:17.38 | swathanthran | i.e one multimedia key gives that three hex numbers, how should i give it on setkeycodes to bind it to a keycode? |
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| 17:18.05 | swathanthran | i have say 120 as a free keycode |
| 17:18.10 | karlpinc_ | epifanio: It would help if you explained to us what you're trying to accomplish by "duplicating". |
| 17:20.06 | epifanio | karlpinc_: yes, i have a debian running on external drive. on it installed a lot of .deb (using apt-get) plus other sw compiled from source. now i have an other external drive and i want clone the first one to the second one ... so i can boot from it (as i already do with the first one) |
| 17:22.14 | jhutchins_lt | epifanio: Boot from a third medium, use rsync to transfer the files. |
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| 17:22.30 | jhutchins_lt | epifanio: How do you boot from it now? BIOS or a bootloader on an internal device? |
| 17:23.21 | epifanio | i'm booting pressing "esc" when i power on the pc ... and selsect the usb device as boot-device |
| 17:23.36 | sander | karlpinc_, petemc does it exist a tool like mtr-tiny that lists ping for all adresses used on my system? |
| 17:23.40 | karlpinc_ | epifanio: If you don't use the package manager (See also "/msg dpkg why aptitude") you're taking on the task of doing system's integration and security support. This is something that Debian does for you and is a big advantage over proprietary operating system adminstration. |
| 17:24.05 | jhutchins_lt | epifanio: In that case you'll need to use dd to transfer the bootsector, or chroot to the device and run grub install. |
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| 17:24.26 | karlpinc_ | epifanio: What he said. You will need to install a bootloader too. |
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| 17:24.56 | jhutchins_lt | epifanio: use mkfs.ext3 to format the partition first, then rsync -avz to copy the files. |
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| 17:25.37 | jhutchins_lt | epifanio: rsync -avz /dev/<source>/ /dev/<target> |
| 17:25.48 | jhutchins_lt | Hm, wait, sorry, need to mount them both first. |
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| 17:26.06 | epifanio | ok, so i'll reformat the disc to ext3 (not ext4) then i'll use rsync |
| 17:26.23 | jhutchins_lt | epifanio: mount them, then rsync -avz <mountpoint source> <mountpoint target> |
| 17:26.39 | epifanio | ok tring it right now |
| 17:26.40 | jhutchins_lt | epifanio: reformat, mount, rsync. |
| 17:26.57 | jhutchins_lt | goes for more coffee. |
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| 17:39.46 | swathanthran | is there anything i can do to make a multimedia key useful if showkey -s shows no numbers for it and showkey shows 3 hex 0x00 0x83 0xa2 0x80 0x83 0xa2,,etc? |
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| 17:40.56 | mezgani | hello |
| 17:41.03 | mezgani | how can i get the build directory |
| 17:41.09 | shamun | If you want to test software, give a 10/12 year kids with ubuntu/centos/freebsd, who use regular msn/itunes/windows. I just put in my son computer debian, my god what a experience, he just want back his itunes/msn , what i should do? |
| 17:41.15 | wols | mezgani: what build directory? |
| 17:41.18 | mezgani | in my /lib/module/` uname -r` |
| 17:41.21 | petemc | dpkg: tell swathanthran about mutlimedia keys |
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| 17:41.37 | wols | mezgani: what for? |
| 17:41.47 | mezgani | i wan to compile a kernel module |
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| 17:42.01 | morgan-r | okay. i don't see the magic of installing debian on a mac mini. i've got updated firmware, but once i'm finished with the debian install, a reboot produces a text message that no boot device is found, press any key to continue. wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel just points to the standard wintel installer instructions. what am i missing? some funky partition-ness during setup? |
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| 17:42.30 | petemc | swathanthran: /msg dpkg multimedia keys |
| 17:42.31 | wols | morgan-r: sounds like you miss a bootloader |
| 17:42.41 | Milp | how do i end a chroot session? |
| 17:42.44 | plastun | hello! I use GNOME and I can't use 'sleep mode' or 'wait mode' - there are no such buttons in my GNOME. Ehat packets I should to install? |
| 17:42.50 | wols | mezgani: get the kernel headers for your kernel |
| 17:43.00 | wols | Milp: "exit" |
| 17:43.01 | morgan-r | wols: i've tried this with both grub and lilo. |
| 17:43.02 | mezgani | ok |
| 17:43.10 | wols | morgan-r: macs use efi |
| 17:43.21 | Milp | wols that only closed one of the graphical terminals |
| 17:43.38 | wols | Milp: how did you start your chroot? |
| 17:43.41 | morgan-r | wols: so i do an expert install and choose ... what option, exactly? |
| 17:44.02 | Milp | wols: Per shell script |
| 17:44.07 | eml | I'm following the debian.org guide to booting from an USB stick. It uses commands available in linux to prepare the stick. Is it possible to do all these steps from windows? |
| 17:44.33 | wols | Milp: what is the "chroot" line? |
| 17:44.42 | Milp | one sec |
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| 17:45.03 | wols | morgan-r: read the "Dual/Triple Boot" section on the url you linked |
| 17:45.06 | Milp | busybox chroot /data/local/debian/mnt /bin/bash |
| 17:45.26 | wols | Milp: as soon as this one bash shell is closed (with "exit") your chroot is gone |
| 17:45.33 | morgan-r | wols: okay. "if you're not planning to dual boot OS X and Debian ..., you can skip this step." so i did. |
| 17:46.00 | wols | morgan-r: then read the "Install EFI boot loader" section |
| 17:46.02 | Milp | hmm i cant really close it, considering the shell was opened through a terminal emulator app, which is already closed |
| 17:46.12 | Milp | or is it a independent process that i could kill? |
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| 17:46.36 | morgan-r | wols: which the howto says isn't needed if you have current firmware, which i do. |
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| 17:48.02 | wols | morgan-r: from the sounds of it, your mini hasn't set/configured this BIOS compatibility mode |
| 17:48.23 | wols | morgan-r: where did you install grub to? what partition? |
| 17:49.02 | morgan-r | wols: default guided setup. |
| 17:49.36 | wols | that's not what I asked |
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| 17:50.13 | morgan-r | as i recall, it installs to the mbr on /dev/sda. hd0 |
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| 17:53.45 | morgan-r | i'm surprised nobody's bothered to rip the code to do this easily out of the ubuntu installer. grr. |
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| 17:57.54 | mezgani | wols, can i read the module struct from userland |
| 17:58.08 | mezgani | wols, or i have to do it on a module |
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| 18:05.25 | magyar | hi, is there an issues with debian-installer daily for amd64,grub2,softraid? |
| 18:06.05 | morgan-r | it's a daily. what do you expect? |
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| 18:09.19 | petar | is ETCH still supported? |
| 18:09.37 | dkr | no |
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| 18:09.52 | dkr | end o flife for security updates was last month |
| 18:10.23 | petar | just let me get this straight: there will be *no* more updates for etch? |
| 18:10.49 | dkr | oldstable is supported for 1 year after new stable is released |
| 18:11.03 | petar | ok, thanks |
| 18:11.19 | petar | time to update |
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| 18:12.10 | dkr | I still have some etch systems to update myself. procrastination is fun. :) |
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| 18:20.32 | magyar | morgan-r: is there any installer for testing that supports grub2-amd64-softraid? |
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| 18:51.02 | u42p | after lenny comes ...? i want to upgrade from lenny :) |
| 18:51.16 | azeem | u42p: lenny is the current release |
| 18:51.46 | u42p | yes, i want testing or unstable or what the "next" one was called again? |
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| 18:53.13 | amphi | u42p: you probably don't want unstable |
| 18:54.12 | hramrach | wants experimental |
| 18:54.21 | u42p | ok |
| 18:54.22 | u42p | thanks |
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| 18:54.45 | amphi | hramrach: heheh |
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| 18:55.57 | hramrach | actually it's too old at times but still helpful ;-) |
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| 19:01.14 | jhutchins_lt | u42p: The next one is called "Oh, my computer doesn't work any more". |
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| 19:02.04 | hramrach | and Lenny is known by alis "Oh. my computer is not supported still." |
| 19:02.07 | epifanio | jhutchins |
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| 19:02.20 | epifanio | jhutchins i get : http://paste.debian.net/65043/ |
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| 19:02.50 | epifanio | after i did resync i unmounted the target disc (sdg) and i tried to install the grub on it |
| 19:03.35 | Maranatha | Hello. I am looking for some help on installing debian on a G1 running cyanogenmod 4.2.15.1 |
| 19:03.43 | MaikB | hey guys. i got an question regarding packaging, where I play the part of the upstream and wanna hear what debian packager would like me to do. Is this the right channel or is there a better suited one? |
| 19:04.13 | jhutchins_lt | epifanio: Oh dear, and I don't have a guide on installing grub handy. |
| 19:04.33 | hramrach | MaikB: you will probably have better luck in a channel for Debian packagers |
| 19:04.46 | MaikB | hramrach, which is? |
| 19:04.59 | wols | !mentors |
| 19:05.00 | dpkg | from memory, mentors is the system that the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg> or <mg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org. |
| 19:05.00 | jhutchins_lt | Hm. |
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| 19:05.44 | MaikB | wols, thx! |
| 19:05.55 | jhutchins_lt | !tell epifanio about reinstall grub |
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| 19:07.00 | jhutchins_lt | epifanio: I'm afraid that I haven't actually done it manually myself, I used Centos' rescue mode. |
| 19:07.12 | MaikB | wols, oh boy, including me there are three peoples at the mentors channel :D |
| 19:07.35 | wols | MaikB: use the mailing list I guess |
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| 19:08.11 | MaikB | wols, meh |
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| 19:08.18 | MaikB | thx anyway |
| 19:08.20 | MaikB | cya |
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| 19:15.27 | Psi-Jack | Alrighty. I'm trying to figure out how to do this right. I have a dom0 with bonded eth0-eth1, the dom0 itself activates the entire bonding interface and br0 bridge and I'm just trying to get my domU's to be able to work with it. I've so far had no success in any method I've been trying based on various googlings. The dom0 is Debian 5.0.4 (Lenny), with Xen Hypervisor 3.2. |
| 19:15.37 | linhis | i created a php script to download youtube video, which works on m,y local but doesnt work on my linode |
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| 19:18.03 | JPT | lindi-: how about some error-messages or hints what is wrong? |
| 19:18.13 | JPT | "doesn't work" is a term for every problem |
| 19:18.58 | jhutchins_lt | Psi-Jack: Just curious, why do you keep asking VM questions in here? |
| 19:21.21 | Psi-Jack | jhutchins_lt: Well, I understand a few people here actually use Xen, and since this is stock standard Xen from debian, it relates with Debian. |
| 19:21.46 | linhis | jpt: file not found, when i click on the generated link |
| 19:21.53 | Psi-Jack | jhutchins_lt: The dom0 setup is totally debian setup with /etc/network/interfaces as well. |
| 19:22.01 | JPT | mhh |
| 19:22.12 | JPT | depends on your script... |
| 19:22.19 | jhutchins_lt | Psi-Jack: Not objecting, I just wonder why here and not something more specific like #xen |
| 19:22.21 | JPT | maybe you need stuff like mod_rewrite.. |
| 19:22.40 | Psi-Jack | jhutchins_lt: ##xen isn't apparently very trafficed when I'm around. ;) |
| 19:24.58 | jhutchins_lt | 38 nics in #xen on oftc.net |
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| 19:33.32 | jhutchins_lt | As you say, though, not much traffic there either. |
| 19:33.46 | jhutchins_lt | Bed time for Europe I guess. |
| 19:34.00 | JPT | not yet |
| 19:34.08 | cahoot | sounds ominous |
| 19:34.12 | JPT | 20:34 here...^^ |
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| 20:03.57 | czesmir | hi all |
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| 20:04.27 | Devastator | judd pciid 8086:4220 |
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| 20:04.29 | judd | [8086:4220] is 'PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'ipw2200' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4220 http://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 |
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| 20:12.22 | eptalon | heyas all |
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| 20:14.07 | eptalon | I am having a problem with an USB device on a SID 2.6.32 kernel; says "device descriptor read/64, error -32", ideas found on the net don't seem to work. |
| 20:14.20 | eptalon | ideas? |
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| 20:15.07 | SparFux | My xchm displays lots of source code only. Isn't it supposed to render pages? |
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| 20:23.55 | jhutchins_lt | eptalon: Try a working OS. |
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| 20:24.22 | jhutchins_lt | eptalon: The error message suggests a bad device, however there's no telling if you're running Sid. |
| 20:25.01 | eptalon | jhutchins_lt: Its one of the "Sansa" players |
| 20:25.26 | eptalon | jhutchins_lt: my other media player works fine |
| 20:25.28 | jhutchins_lt | eptalon: I don't think that's significant. |
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| 20:26.52 | jhutchins_lt | eptalon: I think the next step would be to try to mount it on another pc, preferably one not running an unstable OS. |
| 20:27.12 | jhutchins_lt | eptalon: Even booting a live CD if you don't have other hardware/boot options. |
| 20:28.14 | eptalon | jhutchins_lt: Another comp, with windows |
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| 20:40.00 | sepult | are there any languages, which use recursive pointer derefencing as default ? |
| 20:40.41 | sepult | or is that a poor concept which makes no sense for computing ? |
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| 20:43.46 | sepult | or is that concept rather left for special purpose packages to impement accordingly (according to the needs for the |
| 20:43.46 | sepult | data structurs...whatever) |
| 20:43.55 | heiner | How could I define the order in which the hard disks are named? I have 1 IDE (sda) and one SATA drive (sdb), but sometimes they change names and the SATA drive becomes sda |
| 20:44.20 | sepult | heiner: sysfs, udev |
| 20:44.27 | xingu | !label |
| 20:44.28 | dpkg | Labels can be set on some filesystems, enabling referencing via LABEL=foo in <fstab>. To set: Ext{2,3,4}: e2label /dev/{s,h}dXX foo (16 char limit); XFS: xfs_admin -L foo /dev/{s,h}dXX (12 char limit); FAT{16,32}: dosfslabel /dev/{s,h}dXX foo (11 char limit); NTFS: ntfslabel /dev/{s,h}dXX foo (128 char limit); ReiserFS: reiserfstune -l foo /dev/{s,h}dXX (16 char limit). To mount: mount -L foo dir. See also <uuid>. |
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| 20:44.41 | robbe- | sepult: by recursive pointer dereferencing you mean you would get the int with 'int ***** p = 42; *p;' ? |
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| 20:46.13 | heiner | I understand I'm not the first asking this question ;-) |
| 20:46.21 | sepult | robbe-: i don't get your answer |
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| 20:46.44 | robbe- | sepult: It is not an answer, I'm asking what you mean. |
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| 20:49.55 | jhutchins_lt | heiner: That's a known problem, LILO has ways of dealing with it, but I don't know of real solutions. |
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| 20:50.37 | jhutchins_lt | heiner: What most people do is find some other way to identify the device, such as a UUID. |
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| 20:51.12 | heiner | how could I use that to mount the right partitions? Do you have a pointer? |
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| 20:51.30 | adb | !UUID |
| 20:51.30 | dpkg | [uuid] Universally Unique IDentifier, used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with `blkid'. In /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. Helps to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (<libata> transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire. |
| 20:52.55 | killajoe | http://testberichte.ebay.de/NVIDIA-GeForce-G100-512MB-DDR2-DVI-HDMI_W0QQugidZ10000000016109091 |
| 20:53.05 | killajoe | ups :\ |
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| 20:53.22 | xingu | although for the life of me I don't understand why swapping one nondeterministicly auto-generated label with another would be good practice |
| 20:54.23 | heiner | I just search a way to mount the right partition on the right hard disk on "/" ;-/ |
| 20:54.24 | xingu | I mean on the plus side something generated when building the partition table is a little less volatile than bus order, but regardless, the problem domain is "administratively assigned persistant lables" and so too must be the solution |
| 20:54.47 | xingu | hence my own personal preference for label rather than uuid |
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| 20:57.15 | xingu | (where I need to reference "that physical object" rather than "that nebulous concept of bits shaped into a concept called a filesystem" - such as, for example, SMART monitoring, I use the /dev/disk/by-id construct instead) |
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| 20:59.01 | Lemurek | hi, i have in samba log on debian unstable Unknown parameter encountered: "wide symlinks", this parameter i need to share direcotries by symlinks |
| 20:59.04 | heiner | xingu: looks like a good plan |
| 20:59.43 | Lemurek | there is some "debian specific patched" samba in unstable? |
| 20:59.53 | xingu | heiner: imagine the consternation that'd break out if for example partitions were scanned concurrently rather than linearly. :) |
| 21:00.38 | xingu | heiner: it's really only luck that says the first partition is blkdev1 and the last blkdevN |
| 21:00.55 | heiner | agreed |
| 21:01.01 | eptalon | jhutchins_lt: Works fine with windows |
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| 21:02.55 | sepult | robbe-: http://c-faq.com/aryptr/pass2dary.html |
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| 21:03.25 | MrWax | does anyone know how I can set in the proftpd.conf to use active mode only? |
| 21:04.08 | jhutchins_lt | eptalon: Ok, so we're looking at Sid not being able to understand the device descriptor (or not able to read it). |
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| 21:05.19 | Devastator | Debian installer asked for a non-free firmware, I plugged a pendrive with the file but it couldn't found, I'm still installing the system, how can I make d-i ask for it again? |
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| 21:05.39 | eptalon | jhutchins_lt: looking at the posts on the internet, seems to be a more general "Kernel 2.6" problem, occurring from about 2.6.20 |
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| 21:06.42 | sepult | one can allow it or not allow it to use dynamic minors |
| 21:07.18 | sepult | though i don't know the default is no dynamic minors up to some version, and then vice versa or so... |
| 21:08.01 | jhutchins_lt | eptalon: Specific to that player? |
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| 21:08.43 | eptalon | jhutchins_lt: No, seems to be unrelated, but generally seems to "occur" with these kinds of players. |
| 21:09.09 | eptalon | My guess is that some manufacturer did not implement USB MSC properly. |
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| 21:10.48 | eptalon | which is incomprehenisble; I have "SDHC" cards from them that work perfectly. |
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| 21:11.34 | sepult | dynamic mayjors minors lieutenants and the kernel lol |
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| 21:11.47 | xingu | eptalon: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=376652 seems relevant |
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| 21:16.23 | eptalon | xingu: that's it, yes. |
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| 21:16.50 | eptalon | xingu: So should I add that 2.6.32 is "still" broken? |
| 21:17.44 | xingu | eptalon: does removing usb-ehci allow you to at least access the device? |
| 21:18.15 | xingu | eptalon: I realise this isn't acceptable as a workaround, but if yes - then time to reopen that bug (or open a new one referencing it) |
| 21:18.17 | eptalon | xingu: no idea, need to try. |
| 21:18.33 | xingu | if no, it's something new all over again |
| 21:18.51 | dutchfish | eptalon: have you double checked that ehci is loaded first, i have seen signs in 2.6.32.9 that is *not* sometimes |
| 21:19.30 | eptalon | dutchfish: where would I configure that? |
| 21:20.05 | valdyn | dutchfish: ehci loaded *first* ? |
| 21:20.42 | valdyn | ah, news |
| 21:20.48 | dutchfish | valdyn: let me find the ref for it |
| 21:20.51 | valdyn | Warning! ehci_hcd should always be loaded before uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd, not after |
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| 21:20.58 | valdyn | dutchfish: i found that printk |
| 21:21.02 | sepult | boot offline/offdisk chipsets first or so ? |
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| 21:21.38 | dutchfish | valdyn: ok |
| 21:21.39 | valdyn | dutchfish: thats new between 2.6.30 and 32 anyway |
| 21:21.47 | dutchfish | nods |
| 21:22.48 | eptalon | anyway: this time with uhci: same error |
| 21:23.25 | eptalon | which would suggest it's not related to ehci, but a more general problem |
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| 21:26.46 | eptalon | So I rpeort a bug against what, the 2.6.32 kernel? |
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| 21:29.49 | Lonely_Troll1981 | I am so hungry.... |
| 21:30.03 | heuer | recommends sofa pizza |
| 21:31.36 | Lonely_Troll1981 | Doe anybody wanna feed me? |
| 21:32.27 | Lonely_Troll1981 | I am dieing... aaaaa.... ooooo.... |
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| 21:33.19 | sepult | hmmm ? |
| 21:33.28 | Lonely_Troll1981 | Why people here are such cruel? |
| 21:33.35 | adb | !ops Lonely_Troll1981, |
| 21:33.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: adb complains about: Lonely_Troll1981, |
| 21:33.51 | Lonely_Troll1981 | !ops adb |
| 21:33.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: lonely_troll1981 complains about: adb |
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| 21:34.07 | Lonely_Troll1981 | adb Do you like it? |
| 21:34.31 | Lonely_Troll1981 | ÐокоÑмиÑе!!! |
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| 21:35.26 | Lonely_Troll1981 | Ich war nicht nimals in New York |
| 21:35.31 | Lonely_Troll1981 | ..lalalalala... |
| 21:35.40 | Lonely_Troll1981 | *singing* |
| 21:35.50 | konsel2 | ohjeee |
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| 21:36.00 | Lonely_Troll1981 | konsel2 hi! |
| 21:36.06 | konsel2 | moin moin |
| 21:36.31 | Lonely_Troll1981 | konsel2 Do you from France? |
| 21:36.41 | konsel2 | nope, from germany |
| 21:37.07 | Lonely_Troll1981 | konsel2 I watch the Deutche Welle |
| 21:38.11 | Lonely_Troll1981 | Egal... das ist mein favorite word |
| 21:38.36 | simonrvn | !ops Lonely_Troll1981 - name says it all |
| 21:38.37 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: simonrvn complains about: Lonely_Troll1981 - name says it all |
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| 21:39.09 | dvs | dvs shudders |
| 21:40.07 | hideo | dvs: why, are you cold? |
| 21:40.11 | Lonely_Troll1981 | !ops simonrvn - faggot< like says your name |
| 21:40.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: lonely_troll1981 complains about: simonrvn - faggot< like says your name |
| 21:40.26 | simonrvn | ooh, wow, i'm so insulted |
| 21:40.26 | zobel | Lonely_Troll1981: stop it! |
| 21:40.41 | Lonely_Troll1981 | zobel He start it first |
| 21:40.44 | dutchfish | !ops Lonely_Troll1981 is insulting |
| 21:40.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: dutchfish complains about: Lonely_Troll1981 is insulting |
| 21:40.50 | simonrvn | *plonk* - i suggest the same |
| 21:40.52 | zobel | Lonely_Troll1981: i dont care |
| 21:41.02 | simonrvn | /ignore Lonely_Troll1981 |
| 21:41.06 | Lonely_Troll1981 | !ops dutchfish - stupid fish |
| 21:41.07 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: lonely_troll1981 complains about: dutchfish - stupid fish |
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| 21:41.15 | *** kick/#debian [Lonely_Troll1981!~jim@debian/developer/jimmy] by Hydroxide (you should know better) |
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| 21:41.20 | zobel | hypemit: thx |
| 21:41.23 | dutchfish | thank you |
| 21:41.23 | dvs | hideo: <simonrvn> !ops Lonely_Troll1981 - name says it all |
| 21:41.35 | simonrvn | he should get a g:line ... |
| 21:41.36 | Hydroxide | zobel: you're welcome despite the bogus tab completion :) |
| 21:41.39 | simonrvn | thanks Hydroxide |
| 21:41.48 | zobel | Hydroxide: yes, thx. |
| 21:41.56 | zobel | and i still have no op-rights here. |
| 21:41.59 | Hydroxide | he thinks I'm a bot... heh |
| 21:42.15 | Hydroxide | zobel: unless I abuse god mode I can't give them to you, sorry. remind dondelelcaro :) |
| 21:42.39 | zobel | dondelelcaro: ^ |
| 21:42.43 | simonrvn | i asked last month. no reply. |
| 21:43.10 | AimHere | If you give zobel god-mode, then he can do all the god-mode abuses that you couldn't otherwise get away with ;) |
| 21:43.13 | Hydroxide | oh, this is freenode - I can't even do god-mode anyway |
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| 21:43.24 | Hydroxide | I got confused between the two networks I'm on :) |
| 21:43.51 | zobel | Hydroxide: me as well too often |
| 21:43.59 | dutchfish | as long as you kick the bad boys out its fine by me as it is ;) |
| 21:44.31 | hideo | Hydroxide: are you NaOH? |
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| 21:45.06 | simonrvn | many of those aren't even around anymore |
| 21:45.59 | zobel | hideo: he is at least not acidly |
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| 21:46.47 | Hydroxide | hideo: if you like :) |
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| 21:47.09 | hideo | Hydroxide: don't ever marry HCl |
| 21:47.22 | hideo | meh lame jokes =( |
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| 21:47.29 | Hydroxide | hehe |
| 21:47.43 | dvs | like the chemistry in here |
| 21:47.49 | simonrvn | geek jokes are fun |
| 21:48.33 | Hydroxide | looks at dvs acidly and agrees that geek jokes are basically awesome |
| 21:49.19 | zobel | goes back to his terrain |
| 21:49.23 | robbe- | sepult: What about the link you sent me? |
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| 21:50.01 | Bohemian | hi. i am trying to update php5 and i clicked "5 open a new shell to examine the issue" when it told me the php.ini files were different. well, i can't find that shell |
| 21:50.03 | Bohemian | where is it? |
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| 21:50.41 | simonrvn | um, that's what the prompt is? |
| 21:51.14 | Bohemian | yeah |
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| 21:51.47 | simonrvn | now you can run a diff, and when done fg it again |
| 21:52.34 | Bohemian | and i can't run aptitude because it says dpkg or another apt to ol is already installing packages... |
| 21:52.45 | Bohemian | fg? |
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| 21:54.02 | valdyn | Bohemian: exit |
| 21:54.39 | Bohemian | valdyn: out of the shell? i have |
| 21:54.43 | Bohemian | and started a new one |
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| 21:56.04 | Bohemian | can i kill the process somehow? |
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| 21:58.19 | simonrvn | oh yeh, i think it is exit actually. i usually do this in another shell instance so i forget if it's fg or exit |
| 21:58.44 | valdyn | Bohemian: apt ran a shell to enable you to investigate the situation, just "exit" to get back to apt |
| 21:59.30 | simonrvn | dpkg actually, but that's correct otherwise |
| 21:59.31 | dpkg | simonrvn: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 21:59.38 | simonrvn | dpkg: shushie |
| 21:59.38 | dpkg | simonrvn: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 22:00.05 | Bohemian | valdyn: i typed exit |
| 22:00.08 | Bohemian | i closed the shell |
| 22:00.11 | Bohemian | i've restarted the shell |
| 22:00.16 | Bohemian | i still cannot run that command |
| 22:00.36 | Bohemian | that command being aptitude update && aptitude upgrade |
| 22:01.45 | valdyn | Bohemian: closed shell as in closed the X window? |
| 22:01.52 | valdyn | Bohemian: that was stupid |
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| 22:02.00 | Bohemian | no, as in typed exit |
| 22:02.08 | Bohemian | which closes the X window, terminal |
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| 22:02.32 | valdyn | Bohemian: it does not close the X window where you let apt open a shell for you |
| 22:02.45 | Bohemian | well, obvisouly something is wrong |
| 22:02.50 | Bohemian | so how cna i kill the process |
| 22:02.56 | valdyn | Bohemian: obviously you or I misunderstood something |
| 22:03.03 | valdyn | Bohemian: killall dpkg, killall aptitude |
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| 22:03.06 | Bohemian | i typed exit in command line |
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| 22:04.31 | Bohemian | got it, thanks |
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| 22:08.12 | Roby_ | Hello people |
| 22:08.32 | Roby_ | How can i remove a package from debian + configuration files + and leftover spore's? |
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| 22:09.07 | simonrvn | man dpkg; --purge |
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| 22:09.26 | valdyn | Roby_: aptitude purge |
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| 22:09.48 | Roby_ | i tried apt-get --purge install dovecot-imapd- |
| 22:09.50 | Roby_ | but it didnt work |
| 22:10.05 | valdyn | Roby_: so? |
| 22:10.29 | Roby_ | so it didnt remove the configurations + spores |
| 22:10.32 | petemc | Roby_: did you check to see which package actually owns the config files? |
| 22:10.39 | Roby_ | if i try to reinstall dovecot. i dont get new configs at all |
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| 22:10.51 | petemc | i suspect its dovecot-common |
| 22:10.53 | valdyn | Roby_: thats hardly suprising considering you are giving is borked syntax |
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| 22:12.22 | Roby_ | well, where can i find the default config files of a package? |
| 22:12.35 | valdyn | Roby_: in /etc |
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| 22:13.03 | Roby_ | i think im not understood correctly |
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| 22:13.09 | valdyn | Roby_: yea |
| 22:13.22 | rocketmagnet | hi, how can i find out the name of a package that contains a certain file ? |
| 22:13.24 | valdyn | Roby_: how you can find the package owning specific config files? |
| 22:13.33 | Roby_ | i just removed a package, Dovecot-common and dovecot-imapd.. i have edited /etc/dovecot/ configs before and i deleted them. |
| 22:13.36 | Roby_ | where can i get examples? |
| 22:13.46 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 22:13.47 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 22:14.03 | petemc | Roby_: there should be a default config in /usr/share/dovecot/ |
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| 22:14.18 | valdyn | Roby_: apt-file search /etc/dovecot should get you started, from there with confmiss and purge and install you can do anything possible |
| 22:14.47 | valdyn | Roby_: often default configs are also in /usr/share/doc/packagename |
| 22:15.02 | Roby_ | thanks petemc, and valdyn |
| 22:15.17 | Roby_ | btw. valdyn you give hard explanations for a beginner XD |
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| 22:15.41 | valdyn | Roby_: yea i do |
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| 22:20.01 | Roby_ | anyone has experience with dovecot? |
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| 22:24.33 | troy- | hi, i have an interface setup as ' |
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| 22:24.37 | troy- | iface eth1 inet manual' |
| 22:24.52 | troy- | how can i assign a static address to it? currently there are lots of active sub-interfaces |
| 22:25.14 | troy- | this would be for untagged traffic |
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| 22:28.13 | TiTi_- | hi |
| 22:28.27 | TiTi_- | sa parle francais ici ? |
| 22:28.31 | adb | non |
| 22:28.33 | xand | !fr |
| 22:28.33 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 22:28.57 | troy- | xand: any idea how i can assign a static address to an interface in manual mode? |
| 22:29.08 | xand | man interface |
| 22:29.10 | xand | man interfaces |
| 22:30.07 | xand | change dhcp to static and put in the settings |
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| 22:30.46 | troy- | xand currently its "manual" not "dhcp" |
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| 22:31.15 | troy- | below manual i have a few of these: |
| 22:31.15 | troy- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.17 | troy- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.29 | xand | umm |
| 22:31.32 | xand | I'll show you mine |
| 22:31.53 | troy- | thanks :) |
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| 22:33.36 | xand | http://pastebin.ca/1847338 |
| 22:34.01 | xand | eth1 does not have a gateway as it's for local access only |
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| 22:35.47 | lilib | is possible install .bin package ? |
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| 22:36.12 | lilib | i got some app that is one file and name of file ends at .bin extension |
| 22:36.13 | Devastator | I've just installed debian on a notebook here, but it refuses to boot giving me error 18: selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS |
| 22:36.17 | hayleyw | lilib, yes. bash foo.bin |
| 22:36.25 | Devastator | how can I fix it? |
| 22:36.36 | lilib | thank you |
| 22:36.59 | lilib | then one what i will do under root account is type: bash name_of_package.bin |
| 22:37.00 | lilib | ? |
| 22:37.15 | hayleyw | yes |
| 22:37.45 | hayleyw | Devastator, did you partition it manually? |
| 22:38.20 | Devastator | hayleyw no, assisted |
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| 22:38.50 | xand | lilib: well really bin could be anything. use file on it |
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| 22:54.03 | nvz | what are the chances that if machine A is compromised and packet scanning (promisc) on it shows a great deal of traffic from around the world, and machine B, sitting right next to it on the same subnet, connected to the same switch doesn't show any said traffic scanning in promisc mode.. |
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| 22:54.14 | nvz | what are the chances machine B could be clean? |
| 22:54.17 | nvz | heh |
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| 22:56.10 | nvz | I don't understand how, short of machine B also being compromised, it doesn't see the traffic from machine A |
| 22:56.24 | karmic_indian | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.39 | nvz | karmic_indian: #ubuntu |
| 22:57.05 | karmic_indian | ok |
| 22:57.15 | u42p | nvz: i would guess some random hacker/kid rooted A and uses it to spam or whatever, not caring about the rest of your network because he achieved his goal |
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| 22:58.12 | nvz | u42p: well machine A is this machine.. haha.. and it seems to be being used to monitor other machines across the web |
| 22:58.36 | nvz | what I don't get is why wireshark on this one is scrolling like crazy, and the one right next to it cannot see the traffic from it |
| 22:58.43 | u42p | then it simply became part of a botnet |
| 22:59.26 | nvz | I'm not real sure what happened here, but I got no problems other than the waste of time it is.. reinstalling this machine |
| 22:59.35 | nvz | I really do not however want to have to do it on the other one |
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| 23:03.42 | lilib | dpkg -i lw.bin |
| 23:03.42 | lilib | dpkg-deb: `lw.bin' is not a debian format archive |
| 23:03.42 | lilib | dpkg: error processing lw.bin (--install): |
| 23:03.42 | dpkg | removes a lung from lilib and replaces it with lw.bin |
| 23:03.43 | dpkg | lilib: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 23:04.03 | lilib | hmm |
| 23:04.06 | lilib | sorry |
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| 23:04.27 | lilib | is it definitly .bin is not suitable with debian? |
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| 23:05.05 | lilib | or how i could check it? |
| 23:05.05 | mcphail | Hi. I'm trying to use Squeeze on a Sheevaplug as a print server for my Samsung ML2010 using the Splix drivers. Any attempt to print results in blank pages. There isn't anything worrying in /var/log/cups/error_log, even when loglevel is set to "debug". The printer works fine when connected directly to an Ubuntu AMD64 desktop running the same driver. Where am I going wrong? |
| 23:05.06 | petemc | .bin could be anything, but its very unlikely to be a debian package |
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| 23:05.24 | petemc | lilib: file lw.bin might tell you something |
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| 23:06.29 | lilib | !ELF |
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| 23:06.39 | lilib | is inside this file |
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| 23:06.57 | petemc | lilib: where did you get it? what do you expect it to be? |
| 23:07.39 | lilib | it is some compiled package friend of mine sent me |
| 23:07.51 | lilib | he said manual said it is for linux |
| 23:07.53 | lilib | nothing more |
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| 23:09.41 | lilib | LSB executable |
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| 23:10.00 | petemc | lilib: you could make sure its executable and try to run it with ./lw.bin , but understand that it could do anything that the user you run it as could do, which may be destroy your system |
| 23:10.18 | Sia- | i want to start the apps with more languages for example starting xchat with 3 languages "LANG=en:de:da xchat" as command line worked fine but want to change the apps shortcut, it is possible? |
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| 23:11.10 | rysiek|pl | hi guys |
| 23:11.21 | lilib | petemc> ok, i will cancel it |
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| 23:11.26 | MrWax | I am using Bridged Networking mode for my debian virtual machines now, and setting a static ip for each virtual machine on the network works now, however i am not able anymore to connect to outside ips.. does anyone know what the reason of this could be? |
| 23:11.27 | lilib | thank you for help |
| 23:11.29 | lilib | cya |
| 23:11.40 | rysiek|pl | I have a strange feeling my debian-based server can't handle the amount of iptables NAT rules I have thrown at it |
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| 23:11.55 | petemc | np |
| 23:12.02 | rysiek|pl | CPU/RAM-wise everything's ok, but I seem to have dropped connections nonetheless |
| 23:12.18 | MrWax | My debian virtual machine is on 192.168.1.10 - all traffic should first go to 192.168.1.1 (router) or 192.168.1.2 (THESE 2 ips are perfectly reachable from the debian virtual machine) how ever I cannot connect to any ip on the internet |
| 23:12.19 | rysiek|pl | anything I should look at? anything to check? any fine-tuning I can do? |
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| 23:12.55 | rysiek|pl | MrWax: sudo route -n -> is the router set up as default route? |
| 23:12.58 | petemc | iptables -L | wc -l |
| 23:12.58 | petemc | 1674 |
| 23:13.47 | rysiek|pl | petemc: ok, mine's about 200, so you win. ;) |
| 23:13.51 | petemc | :) |
| 23:14.18 | rysiek|pl | petemc: it might not be the amount of rules, then, but the amount of traffic? |
| 23:14.27 | rysiek|pl | petemc: some buffers might get filled or something? |
| 23:14.28 | petemc | is it a lot of traffic? |
| 23:14.41 | petemc | is your hardware all good, switches included? |
| 23:14.58 | MrWax | rysiek|pl: sorry gateway was set wrong, thanks |
| 23:14.58 | rysiek|pl | petemc: sometimes, yes; hardware seems AOK, as I can SSH directly to the machine just fine |
| 23:15.14 | petemc | how are you seeing the dropped connections, exactly? |
| 23:15.52 | rysiek|pl | petemc: SSH to a NATed server; vim some_important_file.conf; work a few mins; FFFUUUUU- |
| 23:16.09 | rysiek|pl | MrWax: happy to be of service ;) |
| 23:16.31 | petemc | rysiek|pl: ive seen lots of shitty NATing firewall devices that drop connections |
| 23:16.38 | petemc | sonicwall for example |
| 23:17.09 | petemc | for some, if you keep the terminal active, like running top, it keeps the connection up |
| 23:17.32 | rysiek|pl | petemc: well, a mobile tech R&D lab at Warsaw University of Technology, sponsored by one of the biggie telcos in Poland here. we do not do sonicwall ;) |
| 23:17.52 | petemc | right, but you're not sure its your end, are you? |
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| 23:18.08 | rysiek|pl | all direct connections seem fine |
| 23:18.20 | rysiek|pl | as in: no fsckups spotted |
| 23:18.30 | petemc | what sort of direct connections? |
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| 23:19.37 | petemc | also, to prevent you losing data, use screen |
| 23:19.44 | rysiek|pl | doing that already |
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| 23:19.57 | felix | Hi |
| 23:20.07 | rysiek|pl | but, you know, as the sysadmin, I'm kinda annoyed by the mere fact of those fsckups happening |
| 23:20.34 | rysiek|pl | petemc: server A, directly accessible from Teh Intertubes; server B, behind an iptables-based NAT from server A. |
| 23:20.44 | mcphail | rysiek|pl: have you tried diabling TCPKeepAlive? |
| 23:20.51 | felix | I m trying to use nfs on a debian client and debian server. when trying to mount the dir i get "mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking." . ps aux shows that statd ist running. does anyone of you know the error? |
| 23:21.05 | rysiek|pl | petemc: ssh rysiek@A works AOK; ssh -p some_port rysiek@B -> dies |
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| 23:21.22 | rysiek|pl | mcphail: hummm... you mean in sshd config? |
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| 23:21.29 | mcphail | rysiek|pl: yes |
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| 23:21.47 | rysiek|pl | mcphail: same thing happens to http/https connections to NATed services |
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| 23:22.12 | mcphail | rysiek|pl: aah - ok |
| 23:22.32 | rysiek|pl | humm, I kind of remember there were some a). stats; b). config options regarding the TCP/IP stack |
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| 23:22.39 | rysiek|pl | a buffer here, a bucket there |
| 23:22.47 | rysiek|pl | just can't remember now |
| 23:22.49 | marcus__ | hi all, I'm just having a problem during an upgrade from lenny to squeeze. |
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| 23:23.31 | marcus__ | my root is on raid5 and (I think) the cmdline is root=UUID (just getting debian live now to debug) ... |
| 23:23.45 | marcus__ | if that's the issue is it as simple as specifying the device node instead? |
| 23:24.20 | marcus__ | (I made the mistake of updating both initrd's. doh!) |
| 23:24.51 | petemc | rysiek|pl: is it possible one of your 200 iptables rules is the problem? |
| 23:25.21 | rysiek|pl | petemc: hah, never thought of that, to be honest; why yes, need to check that |
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| 23:26.03 | petemc | i have plenty of machines accessed on alternate ports through an iptables firewall, no dropped connections |
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| 23:33.19 | Devastator | I've just installed debian on a notebook here, but it refuses to boot giving me error 18: selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS, what should I do? |
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| 23:43.28 | dark | does anyone know how to put this block into the bad blocks list? e2fsck -c isn't working. it's a usb pen drive. [85649.848849] EXT2-fs error (device sda1): ext2_readdir: bad page in #448837 |
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| 23:43.41 | hellyeah | hey |
| 23:43.45 | MoMo | i am trying to setup a diskless boot enviroment for some nodes -- the nodes are booting fine except near the end it starts spamming this over and over for a while and then it cuts out to busybox begin: retrying nfs mount ... Begin: running /scripts/nfs-premount ... done mount call failed: 13 |
| 23:43.53 | hellyeah | i install debian lenny i have fresh install |
| 23:44.03 | hellyeah | i didnt install anything from other distro |
| 23:44.09 | dark | (i'm not sure if there is a better channel to ask this..) |
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| 23:44.21 | Devastator | that's odd, I've never seen lack of debian support here.. |
| 23:44.21 | dark | hellyeah, so? |
| 23:44.26 | hellyeah | when i try to install gdm. System try to install libcairo2 package |
| 23:44.39 | hellyeah | what is the problem of libcairo2 |
| 23:44.57 | hellyeah | because i cant install some packages because of libcairo2 |
| 23:45.23 | dark | there is a conflict? o.o paste it in a pastebin |
| 23:45.29 | hellyeah | i canrt remove libcairo2 because system wants to delete all package in the system |
| 23:45.32 | jhutchins_lt | MoMo: Are you doing this manually or are you using ltsp? |
| 23:45.35 | hellyeah | i am on windows |
| 23:45.52 | jhutchins_lt | MoMo: Sounds like you need to check the NFS setup on the server. |
| 23:45.58 | hellyeah | i cant install any chat program because of libcairo2 |
| 23:46.06 | dark | hellyeah, go to debian, try installing the package you want, copy the message.. |
| 23:46.10 | hellyeah | but libcairo2 ggives dependency error |
| 23:46.20 | hellyeah | okey |
| 23:46.22 | hayleyw | hellyeah, you need to be specific. otherwise we cant help you |
| 23:46.22 | MoMo | jhutchins: right thats we are started probbing .. i'm not familier with nfs -- i'm thinking its a premission deal |
| 23:46.22 | hellyeah | wait a sec |
| 23:46.26 | jhutchins_lt | hellyeah: Dunno which release you're on, but plenty of people have gdm & chat. |
| 23:46.30 | hellyeah | i am coming back |
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| 23:47.01 | jhutchins_lt | MoMo: I'd say find yourself a NFS or LTSP howto. |
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| 23:47.12 | MoMo | lol i thought i did =P |
| 23:47.13 | MoMo | what is ltsp |
| 23:47.35 | jhutchins_lt | Linux Terminal Server Project - sets up a netboot server for you. |
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| 23:48.39 | MoMo | would ltsp be beneficial if i'm trying to configure a clusteR? |
| 23:49.30 | mcphail | I'm trying to use Debian Squeeze on a Sheevaplug as a print server for my Samsung ML2010 using the Splix drivers. Any attempt to print results in blank pages. There isn't anything worrying in /var/log/cups/error_log, even when loglevel is set to "debug". The printer works fine when connected directly to an Ubuntu AMD64 desktop running the same driver. Where am I going wrong? |
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| 23:49.54 | Bohemian | how do i downgrade my php version to 5.2.latest from 5.3? |
| 23:50.11 | hayleyw | !downgrade |
| 23:50.41 | dark | there *is* a way of downgrading any package, Bohemian? @.@ |
| 23:50.52 | dark | hmm is there (i guess) |
| 23:51.27 | Bohemian | how? |
| 23:51.48 | hayleyw | you cant. you have to do it all manually. completely remove, then install |
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| 23:53.52 | Bohemian | how do i figure out what i installed for php5 so i know what to take out? |
| 23:54.22 | hayleyw | you really cant. not the supporting libraries, anyway. that's why downgrading isnt supported |
| 23:54.36 | Bohemian | i am so fscked |
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| 23:54.46 | hayleyw | you can dpkg -l '*php*' |grep ^i ...but that wont give supporting libraries |
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| 23:55.22 | hayleyw | likely. depends how stubborn you are |
| 23:55.30 | mcphail | What about forcing the version through aptitude and trudging through any broken dependencies? |
| 23:56.07 | Bohemian | i found the line that i used to upgrade to 5.3 php |
| 23:56.12 | Bohemian | can i just use that line but aptitude remove? |
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| 23:56.21 | hayleyw | no |
| 23:56.31 | Bohemian | so just do aptitude remove php5? |
| 23:56.37 | hayleyw | aptitude installed suporting libraries not listed in the command line |
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| 23:58.09 | Bohemian | and then update && upgrade |
| 23:58.13 | Bohemian | then do aptitude install php5? |
| 23:58.32 | j3rg | yo wats up everyone .....any Wii owners |
| 23:58.35 | j3rg | ? |
| 23:58.46 | Devastator | yep.. I'm giving up on debian on this notebook... |
