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| 00:01.09 | odoo | djahandarie are you still there? |
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| 00:03.57 | sladi_ | What package is kde4 desktop please? widget folderview? |
| 00:04.59 | adb | !search |
| 00:04.59 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. |
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| 00:08.51 | sladi_ | adb, I did but I\m not sure. I want to file a bug. |
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| 00:09.04 | Matt- | hey, sleepy heads |
| 00:09.25 | Matt- | i've got something installed in /opt but im runnign out of space on / |
| 00:09.33 | Matt- | and i was wondering if it was possible to move it to /home ? |
| 00:09.35 | Matt- | somehow? |
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| 00:10.31 | exn | guys help! anybody have working config for ospf for debian ? I need simple but actually working configuration file to retrieve routes to my pc .. |
| 00:11.14 | ranix | !ospf |
| 00:11.15 | dpkg | i heard ospf is Open Shortest Path First, or a good open internal routing protocol, or see http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2328.txt |
| 00:11.20 | ranix | aah |
| 00:11.23 | sladi_ | adb Thanks, I found it. |
| 00:11.55 | exn | I'm asking for 100% working config, because if I do it by manual it not works |
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| 00:16.55 | Matt- | cause is i move it then i get ./mangos-worldd: error while loading shared libraries: libACE-5.6.6.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 00:21.48 | epaphus | Hello guys, ill permit myself to ask a more of a networking ... Iam having a network routing issue confirmed by the command mtr on the 3rd hop when I do it against yahoo. The 3rd hop is part of our network and according to mtr it is lossing 40% of the packets... however when I ping directly that specific hops IP then apparently it isnt loosing packets. Anybody know what the technical difference is? |
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| 00:27.06 | kompulsive | o hai thar debian community. good evening. |
| 00:29.02 | iluminator101 | Hi, I am am debian squeeze testing, it works but....every now and then i come with some issue or two....i was thinking about down grading to lenny b/z i just want the thing to work....although i know how to deal with most minor things that do come up |
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| 00:32.38 | craigevil | !downgrade |
| 00:32.39 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
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| 00:34.25 | iluminator101 | well i started with lenny and apt upgraded |
| 00:34.30 | craigevil | iluminator101: save any config files that you edited, and your /home and reinstall is pretty much the only safe way to go from testing>stable |
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| 00:37.56 | iluminator101 | this is the one issue that i couldnt resolve http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=42779&sid=29701cea75d468ec9c77333a6ab23d4f |
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| 00:38.42 | dcbba | Hi, I accidentally set the root shell to a shell that doesn't exist and now I can't login as root |
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| 00:39.03 | trakcyia | im trying to set a chainloader in menu.lst but when i try to load the extlinux.conf menu using the chainloader entry i get "invalid or unsupported format" |
| 00:39.04 | uvstudios | hey everyone i had a question for you guys |
| 00:39.14 | uvstudios | its not completely realted to ubuntu but all the commands are the same. |
| 00:39.33 | uvstudios | right now i'm trying to install xenserver but i cant get it to recongize my cdrom drive to install the software off of |
| 00:39.58 | trakcyia | i bet #debian hates it when ubuntu users come in here with "same thing" notions |
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| 00:40.11 | uvstudios | i've already tried the mod probe command and get the erro message hda: command error: status=0x51 driveReady seekcomplete error |
| 00:40.38 | uvstudios | is there anywhere i should go besides here for xenserver help? |
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| 00:47.48 | trakcyia | I am trying to make a chainloader entry in my menu.lst but every time I try I get "invalid or unsupported format". The grub manual says that means the kernel isnt supported. That makes no sense to me because I should't need a kernel to load extlinux.conf through a chain loader |
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| 00:50.10 | tabris|away | chainloaders don't so much load a kernel as they do a boot sector. |
| 00:50.11 | unikon | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.45 | trazan | unikon: i guess it is your screensaver, do you use gnome? |
| 00:53.59 | djahandarie | I'm trying to install debian lenny amd64 via hd-media on a USB stick. |
| 00:54.12 | djahandarie | I zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdc |
| 00:54.18 | djahandarie | Then I plug it into my laptop (where I'm trying to install it) |
| 00:54.23 | djahandarie | And I tell it to boot from USBHDD, and it just says Boot Error |
| 00:54.34 | djahandarie | So I tried install-mbr on /dev/sdc and then put it back into my laptop, and it just says 'MBR 1234FA' |
| 00:54.42 | unikon | trazan yes |
| 00:54.48 | djahandarie | And I can't get any further than that... could someone help? |
| 00:54.53 | djahandarie | This is a ThinkPad T500 if that helps, and apparently people have put Debian on it before. |
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| 00:55.53 | macrobat | unikon: if you open your gnome screensaver, isn't there some option about "lock screen"? try to disable it |
| 00:56.00 | adb | !ThinkPad |
| 00:56.01 | dpkg | [thinkpad] one of the best laptops you can buy, or a thing that dies when your car hits it, according to abrotman. Some models may restrict Mini PCI card usage, see http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~mjg59/thinkpad/wireless.html . See also <hdapsd>, <martian>, <mwavem>, <synaptics>, <tpb>, <trackpoint>. http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad http://www.thinkwiki.org/ http://forum.thinkpads.com/ ##ibmthinkpad on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:56.30 | djahandarie | adb, most everything on those links |
| 00:56.42 | djahandarie | I'll see if anyone in the channel can help though, thanks |
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| 00:57.27 | unikon | thanks macrobat i found it under system-preferences-screensaver & unchecked the lock screen when screensaver is active |
| 00:58.21 | tuantub | ping |
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| 00:59.18 | macrobat | pong |
| 01:00.05 | tuantub | hi, does anyone there know, how to extract the postinst script in a deb package without installing this package ? |
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| 01:01.32 | adb | dpkg -x packagename packagename ? |
| 01:01.34 | dpkg | i don't know, adb |
| 01:02.00 | tuantub | adb: it's not working :( |
| 01:02.31 | macrobat | i guess you could open it in an archive manager :) |
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| 01:03.34 | tuantub | macrobat: i did have a look in this package but there are no scripts :( |
| 01:04.02 | macrobat | i just opened the postinst to a libwebkit .deb file |
| 01:04.24 | tuantub | macrobat: :-/ |
| 01:04.47 | macrobat | idk, tuantub |
| 01:05.50 | tuantub | macrobat: sorry, i don't understand what you mean ? :( |
| 01:06.28 | enouf | syslq78: i like pstree -lunap and pstree.x11 as needed |
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| 01:07.08 | enouf | g00se no idea what you're talking about |
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| 01:07.24 | macrobat | idk == i dont know :) can the deb be badly packaged? |
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| 01:09.22 | syslq78 | enouf, hehe, thanks mate (btw every half normal person in this part of Europe is sleeping by now ), I used pstree, it has nice representation |
| 01:09.23 | enouf | seems i sent some messages to g00se that were meant for gumbox .. oh well |
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| 01:10.12 | tuantub | macrobat: :P, no no, this package hat only postinst/postrm (i think ;)), i've found the source package of this but i just want to know if it's possible trace the scripts packaged in this package without downloading the source package ? |
| 01:10.14 | enouf | syslq78: they'll 'come around' to seeing 'our way' real soon ;-) |
| 01:10.29 | syslq78 | enouf, yeah :=) |
| 01:10.34 | fas3r | how to know if my computer use ACPI or AMP ? |
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| 01:11.02 | enouf | fas3r: dmesg .. but dmidecode, lshw -- what's the CPU |
| 01:11.14 | enouf | you mean ACPI or APM |
| 01:11.47 | enouf | fas3r: give me a roundabout year it was made ;-) |
| 01:11.55 | fas3r | enouf: it's a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU |
| 01:12.00 | enouf | but knowing the CPU would tell me |
| 01:12.05 | enouf | hehe - tha's ACPI |
| 01:12.11 | enouf | that's* |
| 01:12.45 | enouf | fas3r: my penitumII even uses ACPI -- not that ACPI hasn't had enormous issues over the years |
| 01:12.48 | fas3r | enouf i can see it in /etc/procinfo ? (i mean this line : apicid : 1 .. where 1 = true ? ) |
| 01:12.56 | enouf | s/penitum/pentium/ |
| 01:13.15 | enouf | you mean /proc/cpuinfo? |
| 01:13.50 | fas3r | yes, where i can check is it's acpi or amp ? in a file or directly in the bios |
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| 01:14.04 | enouf | fas3r: listen ...both |
| 01:14.06 | fas3r | enouf: and sorry i'm tired bad line ^^ |
| 01:15.00 | enouf | although my BIOS of older PCs (like mine) doesn't necessarily say ACPI, it might just say Power Management |
| 01:15.25 | icedwater | Anyone's used a Lexmark X1195 printer before? I'm not sure how to get it to work... |
| 01:15.40 | enouf | fas3r: grep -i acpi /var/log/dmesg |
| 01:16.00 | enouf | fas3r: install and run lshw, hwinfo, dmidecode -- /msg dpkg what |
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| 01:16.13 | enouf | fas3r: /msg dpkg what's my hardware |
| 01:17.10 | fas3r | enouf: thank for tools ^ |
| 01:17.12 | fas3r | ^^ |
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| 01:18.18 | enouf | fas3r: np |
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| 01:18.52 | fas3r | enouf: i didn't use it before, i used lspci ^^ but lshw is really nice ^^ |
| 01:19.00 | enouf | heh |
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| 01:19.14 | fas3r | i will use it now :) |
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| 01:30.22 | bpun | hi |
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| 01:30.57 | bpun | i did a cool motherboard switch (kept same lenny install) -- everything works as expected-- 1 thing is I can't control the sound volume :( |
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| 01:31.59 | bpun | (sound playback functional -- /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 had no effect-- no ~/.as* files ) |
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| 01:32.21 | zetheroo |  I put it to you ... a guy wrote me with the following .... are all these things not 'happening' in Linux? http://pastebin.com/m38b93ef9 |
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| 01:33.39 | bpun | zetheroo, linux can already do all that-- Xcode is apple objective C |
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| 01:33.59 | bpun | zetheroo, i dont see any use of Xcode on *nix platforms.. it's an apple developer thing |
| 01:34.07 | zetheroo | oh really? |
| 01:34.22 | bpun | zetheroo, if u add a secondary monitor, no need to restart x.. |
| 01:34.29 | echosystm | is objective c really used for anything other than apple stuff? |
| 01:34.30 | zetheroo | sorry ... I am passing this info onto you guys because I am unsure of this stuff |
| 01:34.33 | bpun | zetheroo, also X is auto self configuring |
| 01:35.04 | bpun | zetheroo, xorg.conf doesn't have to be created manually anymore (nor does it have to exist) |
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| 01:35.25 | zetheroo | oh right |
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| 01:36.25 | Darkclaw66 | if I want to encrypt all web activity (80,443) through a VPN, would I tell the browser to use a proxy behind the VPN? |
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| 01:36.30 | zetheroo | so of all he said is there anything that really sticks? |
| 01:36.33 | bizzle_ | omg #debian we're all elite pricks omg |
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| 01:36.58 | bpun | zetheroo, i'm bound to setup xinerama tonite (which is two displays).. supposedly X doesn't need to be restarted.. just a little command needs to be issued as mentioned from the url |
| 01:37.02 | bpun | !xinerama |
| 01:37.03 | dpkg | it has been said that xinerama is where you have several monitors but only one logical desktop -- XFree86 4.0 and X.org have it! Documentation is available: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Xinerama-HOWTO.html , or functionality is provided by randr in recent Xorg drivers, see http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 for howto. |
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| 01:37.28 | bpun | zetheroo, < http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
| 01:38.47 | bpun | zetheroo, i believe you dont even need to type any commands for a secondary monitor.. but i'll look into it tonite... |
| 01:39.08 | bpun | wonders what zetheroo is trying to point out |
| 01:39.12 | Darkclaw66 | anyone know? |
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| 01:39.51 | bpun | Darkclaw66, you mean outside a VPN ? |
| 01:39.52 | zetheroo | bpun: oh .. I was not trying to point anything out as such .. I just was wondering if there was a good response for him ... :) ... |
| 01:40.08 | bpun | zetheroo, tell him to stfu and try it already |
| 01:40.17 | Darkclaw66 | bpun im going to another country and I want to have everything I do encrypted |
| 01:40.18 | zetheroo | hehe |
| 01:40.29 | Darkclaw66 | I run a vpn server at home and I was hoping to use it to make sure everything I do is encrypted |
| 01:40.33 | echosystm | whats the difference between xinerama and "normal" dual screen? |
| 01:40.41 | zetheroo | well .. how many things in that list are valid ... ? |
| 01:40.42 | bpun | !xinerama |
| 01:40.42 | dpkg | xinerama is probably where you have several monitors but only one logical desktop -- XFree86 4.0 and X.org have it! Documentation is available: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Xinerama-HOWTO.html , or functionality is provided by randr in recent Xorg drivers, see http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 for howto. |
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| 01:40.56 | zetheroo | if any .... |
| 01:40.56 | echosystm | yeah but how is that different bpun ? |
| 01:40.57 | zhxk` | hello, may debian connect to windows and ping to it through serial uart? |
| 01:41.02 | icedwater | Hmm... I can access the Printers section in System/Administration on Ubuntu/GNOME.. how do I get that set up on Lenny? |
| 01:41.10 | bpun | echosystm, read those url sites.. or wikipedia it.. |
| 01:41.17 | echosystm | ok |
| 01:41.17 | bpun | echosystm, i'm not an expert in it.. |
| 01:41.18 | icedwater | I don't see any way to configure my printers short of going to localhost:631. |
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| 01:42.40 | bpun | zetheroo, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software |
| 01:42.53 | echosystm | anyone know why netbeans and eclipse are so outdated in the repo? |
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| 01:43.13 | zetheroo | bpun: oh cool |
| 01:43.19 | echosystm | netbeans is 5 versions behind and eclipse is 3 |
| 01:43.33 | Darkclaw66 | darn I was hoping someone here would know what I should do |
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| 01:45.41 | bpun | zetheroo, plus you dont have to wipe out your mac.. you can even use virtualization products (vmwarefusion) on your mac intel to try out linux -- i even made a native dualboot macbook with osx and debian on it.. |
| 01:46.27 | bpun | zetheroo, http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook |
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| 01:46.45 | zetheroo | cool ... I am pasting those links in my reply :) |
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| 01:47.20 | sanmarcos | where can I find out a howto on creating .deb packages? |
| 01:48.14 | bpun | sanmarcos, debian.org/doc |
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| 01:55.20 | enouf | echosystm: /msg dpkg dual monitors (as well) |
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| 01:59.27 | enouf | echosystm: and while you're at it, see xdmx :-P |
| 01:59.49 | enouf | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/os-mltihed/index.html |
| 02:00.13 | enouf | sanmarcos: /msg dpkg package basics |
| 02:00.22 | enouf | sanmarcos: /msg dpkg mentors |
| 02:00.28 | echosystm | guys i have a question |
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| 02:00.39 | enouf | i doubt it |
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| 02:00.41 | echosystm | if i startx, xfce will load up automatically |
| 02:00.47 | enouf | and? |
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| 02:00.57 | echosystm | does this mean i don't need to add startxfce to my .xinit ? |
| 02:01.01 | enouf | update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 02:01.11 | enouf | no idea what xfce does |
| 02:01.16 | unikon | any idea when pidgin 2.5.8 will be releasing a .Deb |
| 02:01.24 | echosystm | well the same idea is applicable to any DE enouf |
| 02:01.28 | enouf | try startxfce instead of startx |
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| 02:01.33 | bassliner | hi there, is there a reason the "send host-name" option in dhclient.conf is not being used in debian default installations? |
| 02:01.34 | echosystm | ok |
| 02:01.44 | enouf | startx starts my x-window-manager |
| 02:02.30 | enouf | echosystmfor ex; startkde, might be used instead, or whatever gnome uses, gnome-session or someshit |
| 02:02.41 | bpun | unikon, you're probably missing a repo |
| 02:03.07 | bpun | notices 2.5.8 << the greed of numeros!! |
| 02:03.23 | enouf | notices he STILL is using dhcpcd on sid ...for some odd reason |
| 02:03.53 | ranix | bassliner: I don't know, but it has been reported as a bug under #151820 and #165086 |
| 02:03.58 | enouf | judd: versions pidgin |
| 02:03.58 | judd | enouf: pidgin -- lenny-volatile: 2.4.3-4lenny1~volatile0 lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny1 etch-backports: 2.4.3-4lenny2~bpo40+1 lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny2 lenny-backports: 2.5.5-1.1~bpo50+1 squeeze: 2.5.6-1 sid: 2.5.8-1+b1 |
| 02:04.23 | enouf | unikon: you running lenny? check backports.org - or /msg dpkg ssb |
| 02:04.25 | bassliner | ranix: hmm |
| 02:04.35 | bassliner | ranix: i noticed ubuntu uses that option by default |
| 02:04.39 | ranix | a lot of reports have been submitted on it |
| 02:04.41 | bassliner | ranix: and debian doesn't |
| 02:04.45 | ranix | some ubuntu discussion was about it also |
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| 02:04.51 | bassliner | ranix: thanks. |
| 02:05.42 | zenwryly | if gpg says my primary key is 1024d/* does that mean it's a 1024 bit DSA key that uses SHA1 and thus needs to be migrated? For that matter, what does 2048g, 2048r, etc. mean? Where is the meaning of that last letter documented? |
| 02:06.55 | enouf | r == RSA likely |
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| 02:07.16 | sanmarcos | how does one set up the email, name, etc environment variables package building needs? |
| 02:07.20 | enouf | man ssh, man x509 or something |
| 02:07.28 | enouf | man ssh-keygen |
| 02:07.55 | enouf | !tell sanmarcos -about nmg |
| 02:08.03 | zenwryly | enouf: this is for gpg (gnupg) |
| 02:08.18 | zenwryly | enouf: and I've been looking at the man page and lots of other docs :( |
| 02:08.29 | enouf | ahh, as opposed to openssh/ssl .. my bad |
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| 02:08.50 | enouf | hrm, does gnutls stuff help? though i doubt it |
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| 02:09.40 | zenwryly | enouf: hmm, worth a look, thanks |
| 02:09.42 | enouf | ~$ gpg --list-keys |
| 02:09.45 | enouf | i see now |
| 02:09.49 | zenwryly | enouf: yeah |
| 02:10.12 | zenwryly | enouf: seems like the kind of basic symbol stuff that you'd have a legend for somewhere in the man page |
| 02:10.22 | enouf | still, if D == DSA, then r == some R<algorithm> |
| 02:10.44 | zenwryly | enouf: and g? :) |
| 02:10.44 | enouf | same for g |
| 02:10.57 | enouf | look up crypto algorithms |
| 02:11.44 | enouf | i mean, even reiserfs offers; rupasov, or tea. r5 is the default one. |
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| 02:11.55 | enouf | as a hash function |
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| 02:14.30 | enouf | see OpenGPG or something; man gpg<TAB><TAB> ; man gnu<TAB><TAB> |
| 02:14.45 | zenwryly | enouf: been looking at the gpg man page |
| 02:14.50 | enouf | er PGP |
| 02:15.05 | enouf | not enough - or you're blind :-P |
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| 02:15.15 | enouf | try /usr/share/doc/ like normal people |
| 02:15.21 | zenwryly | enouf: someone in #gnupg finally answered |
| 02:15.25 | zenwryly | enouf: also looked there |
| 02:15.42 | zenwryly | enouf: but theystill haven't told me where to find a legend |
| 02:16.13 | enouf | ~$ dlocate gnupg (ftw) \o/ |
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| 02:16.43 | enouf | zenwryly: perhaps you can help out, and document some of it? ;-) |
| 02:18.17 | enouf | zenwryly: ask yourself, why is it displayed at all -- obviously, someone whom programs, inserted it there, so when they run something like ~$ gpg --list-keys they can quickly tell the key-type. or something distinct they want to know about it |
| 02:18.20 | zenwryly | enouf: I certainly will in my key transition announcement |
| 02:18.45 | enouf | they just didn't document that aspect well ;-) |
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| 02:18.51 | enouf | (so it seems) |
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| 02:19.28 | echosystm | in your DE, what does "save session" do? |
| 02:19.40 | echosystm | you know, when youre logging out |
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| 02:20.30 | zenwryly | enouf: yup |
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| 02:22.40 | enouf | echosystm: likely stores your which open windows you have and settings and shit |
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| 02:22.52 | echosystm | right |
| 02:23.00 | echosystm | so its kind of like hibernat/suspend? |
| 02:23.13 | enouf | zenwryly: mind sharing what the gnupg people said? |
| 02:24.59 | zenwryly | enouf: he told me that "d" means DSA, "g" means ElGamal |
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| 02:28.42 | Dominicus | I'm trying to specify in /etc/exports for nfs sharing on the server to an address/subnetmask of 192.168.1.100/29. And my client is using 192.168.1.104. Can anyone tell me if it is weird that it is refusing my connection when it's set to /29, but accepts by connection when it's set to /28? Am, I interpreting things correctly? |
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| 02:29.21 | lindenle | Is there a good gui tool in debian for handling network connections (especially wireless) |
| 02:29.48 | craigevil | lindenle: try wicd |
| 02:30.13 | lindenle | craigevil: ok (use iwconfig and interfaces by hand now) |
| 02:30.33 | Dominicus | My 192.168.1.x is a full class C, and I haven't divided it into any further subnets. i just want to limit it to a low number, so i picked /29 to encompass about 8 IPs that are periodically rotated through because they're assigned from DHCP. |
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| 02:31.38 | Tramp | Dominicus: use ipcalc to see, that "100/29" is really "96/29", going up to 103, which would be the broadcast |
| 02:32.26 | Tramp | (however, specifying a range like that would usually allow .103 as a host address). But 104 is out of this net. |
| 02:32.57 | icedwater | Hmm, I'm trying to set up a Lexmark X1195. I've got it in CUPS, but there's a /usr/lib/cups/filters/rastertoz600 error when I try to print. Running that program on its own shows it can't find libcupsimage.so.2, even though it's already installed. Anything I can do to fix this? |
| 02:33.39 | Tramp | Dominicus: but you can't say "...100/29" and hope it to be "100-107", which you apparently did. |
| 02:35.19 | lindenle | craigevil: um nothing happened when I run it...? |
| 02:35.26 | Dominicus | Tramp: LOL. Thanks for the mini lesson there. Yeah, I've never tried to just adhoc through in a subnetmask value like that before. i didn't know it was attached to predefined blocks like you're telling me thanks. (I never had to deal with that when I was doing networking configuration, else I would have learned that THAT doesn't work. heh heh) |
| 02:36.01 | Tramp | yw |
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| 02:36.38 | MrWax | how can I search for a file from my root dir? |
| 02:36.45 | MrWax | find -type f . FILE ? |
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| 02:36.57 | lindenle | oh I see |
| 02:36.59 | lindenle | wicd-client |
| 02:37.04 | lindenle | hmm d-bus error |
| 02:38.09 | Tramp | MrWax: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind may be helpful. For your case: find / -type f -name <filename> |
| 02:38.10 | zenwryly | enouf: he also recomended using seahorse which prints human readable type on the properties screen of a key |
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| 02:38.53 | Gokee2 | Hello all, anyone here done anything with gps units? I got a little USB unit today and figured I would plug it in and see what I got in dmesg but I got nothing? I tried both turning the unit on and plugging it in and plugging it in first then turning it on. Anyone happen to know any good sites on making gps units work? Thanks |
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| 02:41.42 | lindenle | craigevil: looks pretty cool |
| 02:42.11 | MrWax | thanks |
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| 02:46.19 | chunkychili | debian FTW! |
| 02:48.57 | macrobat | how do i run lua scripts in ~/.config/awesome ? |
| 02:49.00 | enouf | zenwryly: thanks for the infos |
| 02:49.15 | enouf | zenwryly: am having an issue ssh'ing .. doesn't make sense |
| 02:50.12 | bpun | Gokee2, try modprobe usbserial |
| 02:50.35 | enouf | why does ssh -vvv user@hostIP not tell me no more than (basically) "debug1: connect to address 192.168.0.4 port 22: Connection refused" ? |
| 02:50.40 | enouf | heck i even straced it |
| 02:50.56 | enouf | and it worked last night :-( |
| 02:51.19 | enouf | i got prompted for a passwd, entered it correctly and i was in |
| 02:51.37 | bpun | enouf, heheehe you starting to sound like that crazy guy yesterday.. |
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| 02:52.42 | Gokee2 | bpun, Ok, I tried that but I still get nothing if I turn on the device or unplug/replug while on |
| 02:52.53 | enouf | checks router config .. and .. thinks about how he booted knoppix on the server with the ssh=<passwd> option, but i don;t think knoppix3.9 even recognizes that option (but it was correct user passwd anyway) , grml.org does |
| 02:53.14 | bpun | enouf, route -n .. does it have 192.168.0.0 ? |
| 02:53.43 | bpun | Gokee2, when you plug in the usb device, are there messages? (btw what usb gps model do you have? lspci can show) |
| 02:53.59 | enouf | bpun: indeed - everything on my side is fine |
| 02:54.09 | enouf | 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 02:54.24 | Gokee2 | bpun, Nothing in dmesg I got a Flaircomm GPSBT560 http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=GPSBT560 |
| 02:54.31 | bpun | enouf, is 192.168.0.4 gets shown in arp table? |
| 02:54.32 | enouf | bpun: i mean, when my route is bad here, i can't access the internet at all :-) |
| 02:54.44 | enouf | bpun: no |
| 02:54.45 | Gokee2 | lspci does not have anything about gps in it |
| 02:55.30 | bpun | enouf, according to managing the gateway (debian to do list).. the debian scripts on this still need some woekr.. |
| 02:55.31 | enouf | what's gps? oh - maybe you want lsusb -v ? |
| 02:55.34 | enouf | or dmesg? |
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| 02:55.49 | enouf | oh |
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| 02:56.12 | Gokee2 | enouf, I have been using dmesg.. Wow lsusb -v looks cool :) give me a sec :) |
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| 02:56.37 | enouf | Gokee2: /msg dpkg what's my hardware (for even more cool stuff ;-)) |
| 02:56.45 | bpun | Gokee2, y, if you use -k << usbserial.ko might show up with your gps device.. (meaning the gps device is using that module) |
| 02:57.06 | mimcpher | I'm looking for software to replace camserv. IE, streaming video on a website. I've had a few problems with camserv. |
| 02:57.19 | bpun | Gokee2, it says bluetooth on that webpage |
| 02:57.44 | Gokee2 | bpun, Ya, it also seems to say it supports usb |
| 02:58.10 | Gokee2 | For example under product requirments it list usb and not bluetooth |
| 02:58.24 | Gokee2 | It would be really sad if it only supported usb for charging |
| 02:58.48 | bpun | Gokee2, maybe you want to verify that the usb cable is only meant for charging the device.. |
| 02:59.44 | bpun | Gokee2, if in doubt, you can try another cable (of different lenght) and different usb port |
| 02:59.45 | Gokee2 | bpun, Hmmm how would I go about that? It came with very little documentation |
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| 03:00.20 | Gokee2 | bpun, I have tried both my front ports, and the gps uses a slightly non-standard end on its cable :(! |
| 03:00.41 | bpun | Gokee2, is this a laptop? |
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| 03:01.18 | Gokee2 | bpun, Right now I am testing it on my desktop but I can move over to my laptop |
| 03:01.43 | bpun | Gokee2, what's the kernel ver? |
| 03:02.06 | Gokee2 | bpun, 2.6.26-2-amd64 |
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| 03:02.33 | bpun | Gokee2, so you don't have bluetooth tech with the desktop or laptop? |
| 03:02.48 | bpun | believes usb cable is only for charging.. |
| 03:03.24 | enouf | bpun: the sshd was NOT running on other end ... ;-) |
| 03:03.32 | bpun | enouf, heheeh |
| 03:03.34 | Gokee2 | bpun, I don't think so, my motherboard on my desktop supports it but I think I need a antenna or something |
| 03:03.44 | enouf | bpun: man o man ... such simple overlooks |
| 03:03.55 | bpun | enouf, how many machines are you working on? it does get confusing sometimes.. |
| 03:04.23 | bpun | Gokee2, can you modprobe bluetooth? |
| 03:04.35 | Dominicus | I have a /etc/fstab entry of "192.168.1.10:/mnt/sdc/mtd /home/mythVideos/networkvideos ntfs ro,users 0 0" but, whenever I do a "mount /home/mythVideos/networkvideos", I get "mount: special device 192.168.1.10:/mnt/sdc/mtd does not exist". Has anyone come across this? It's difficult to find via google. =( |
| 03:05.24 | Gokee2 | bpun, Ya I can... |
| 03:05.59 | enouf | shit .. now i cannot get the friggin passwd correct? c'mon! |
| 03:06.01 | bpun | Dominicus, it should be "//dev/sdc? /home/<rest> .. " << i'm not too sure if its ntfs or ntfs-3g.. |
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| 03:06.46 | Gokee2 | bpun, So, what can I do with it now? I have never done anything with bluetooth |
| 03:06.55 | bpun | Gokee2, run the bluetooth service up.. |
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| 03:07.08 | bpun | Gokee2, i believe bluetooth package has bluetooth commands to probe the area |
| 03:07.33 | bpun | Gokee2, dpkg -L bluez-utils |grep bin |
| 03:07.42 | Dominicus | bpun: UGH *slaps forehead*. Thanks. It's not supposed to be ntfs, it's supposed to be nfs. I apparently have ntfs on the brain again from having tinkered with it so much lately. Thanks. |
| 03:08.09 | Gokee2 | bpun, aw nice |
| 03:08.38 | bpun | is feeling like a retarded pro :) |
| 03:08.38 | Dominicus | bpun: And of course it works like a charm with that single character typoe fixed. =) |
| 03:08.39 | bpun | heheheh |
| 03:08.44 | bpun | what's happening with everyone today? |
| 03:09.37 | echosystm | does debian use upstart by default? |
| 03:09.58 | trazan | echosystm: debian uses inittab |
| 03:10.13 | echosystm | whats the benefit of upstart? i heard it makes booting faster |
| 03:10.14 | Gokee2 | Hmmm... I have something called bluetooth-applet but if I tun it something pops in and out of my systray real quick and then nothing else... |
| 03:10.21 | echosystm | because it does more things in parallel |
| 03:10.21 | trazan | upstart is buntu-buntu |
| 03:11.30 | bpun | Gokee2, can you get anything with hcitool scan ? |
| 03:12.01 | Gokee2 | If I do "hcitool scan" it says "Device is not available: No such device" |
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| 03:12.20 | trazan | inittab, i meant init :) |
| 03:12.23 | bpun | Gokee2, is bluetooth daemon running? (not sure if needed) (/etc/init.d/bluetooth start) |
| 03:12.41 | bpun | !bluetooth |
| 03:12.41 | dpkg | somebody said bluetooth was a wireless communications protocol: http://bluetooth.com/ or about as secure as shouting. apt-get install bluez-utils; then run hidd --search as root. http://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser |
| 03:13.09 | trazan | *connect |
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| 03:13.17 | trazan | nvm, |
| 03:13.20 | bpun | believes it was hidd --search ://.. but he still newbie at bluetooth |
| 03:13.33 | phorce1 | Gokee2: you definitely need bluetooth -- the USB on that GPS is for charging only. Here's a user manual: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2147950/GPS-Bluetooth-Receiver-User-Manual |
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| 03:15.07 | Gokee2 | phorce1, That sucks :( Who would build usb into a gps unit for charging only? |
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| 03:16.29 | bpun | Gokee2, i dont know much about bluetooth-usb gadgets.. but i know some things can still be used while charging them on usb.. or some may not.. |
| 03:16.41 | phorce1 | Anybody that wants to make it easy for to always find a charger (eg. any PC that's handy or a car 12V to USB adapter or a wall wart to usb adapter etc.) |
| 03:16.54 | Gokee2 | bpun, hmm |
| 03:17.31 | phorce1 | bpun: no, you misunderstand. The GPS unit he has does NOT have USB functions at all. The USB is for charging only. |
| 03:17.35 | bpun | Gokee2, did u see that bluetooth page? http://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser |
| 03:17.45 | bpun | phorce1, i did not say that :) |
| 03:18.09 | Gokee2 | bpun, Hmm no I will look at that too, thanks |
| 03:18.17 | phorce1 | bpun: Oh, this one can be used while charging |
| 03:18.41 | bpun | phorce1, we don't know |
| 03:19.43 | Gokee2 | It does do its normal bluetooth blinking while charging |
| 03:19.46 | phorce1 | bpun: theuser manual is only a few pages of actual information. It was a quick read. I might be interested in a $20 GPS antenna for the laptop that doesn't have to be tethered with a USB cable in the truck. I current have 2 that use USB. |
| 03:20.31 | btnz | hi, how can i remotely access my debian system that is running in my home network over the internet? |
| 03:21.00 | phorce1 | bpun: The user manual states "if you are using it while charging the red led will be always on while charging and will start blinking once per second when fully charged" |
| 03:21.03 | bpun | btnz, !ssh |
| 03:21.05 | bpun | !ssh |
| 03:21.06 | dpkg | [ssh] the Secure SHell; "aptitude install ssh" (www.openssh.org). Clients for other platforms include <putty><cygwin><niftytelnet> or MacSSH. It's _unwise_ to enable both RSA and password authentication. Firewalls to mitigate against brute-force attacks on your ssh server include <fail2ban> <denyhosts>. Also see <scp><sftp><ssh without password><sshx><ssh linedraw><debug sshd>. |
| 03:21.27 | bpun | btnz, (server is package in openssh-server) |
| 03:21.53 | bpun | phorce1, it's not my gadget |
| 03:21.58 | bpun | it's Gokee2's .. |
| 03:22.25 | bpun | phorce1, I think he knows how to read :) |
| 03:22.53 | echosystm | ive added non-free to my sources.list |
| 03:23.03 | echosystm | but i still cant get access to netbeans-ide package |
| 03:23.12 | echosystm | am i missing something? |
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| 03:23.30 | bpun | echosystm, it's in contrib |
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| 03:23.31 | Gokee2 | Hmmm |
| 03:23.37 | echosystm | oh |
| 03:23.47 | bpun | echosystm, lenny main non-free contrib |
| 03:23.51 | btnz | bpun, thanks, aptitude install ssh enables me to run a ssh server on the system so that i then just need a ssh client? did i get that right? |
| 03:23.54 | Gokee2 | is trying to pull up the manual on his motherboard and see if it has any bluetooth support |
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| 03:24.18 | bpun | Gokee2, if it does, verify that the bios settings enable it on.. |
| 03:24.35 | bpun | echosystm, (i'm assuming you're using lenny) |
| 03:24.59 | echosystm | yep |
| 03:25.00 | echosystm | thanks |
| 03:25.00 | echosystm | :) |
| 03:25.17 | bpun | btnz, and port forward to port 22 on router box (i personally tweak the sshd settings to listen on the non-default port because there are bad people out there :) |
| 03:25.21 | Gokee2 | bpun, Ya I should check that :) |
| 03:25.30 | Gokee2 | Although then I have to restart.... :(!!! |
| 03:25.35 | phorce1 | Gokee2: how new a system? Not many desktop systems that I've seen come with BT pre-installed. It's usually an optional riser card |
| 03:26.41 | Gokee2 | phorce1, Build it just after Christmas last year so about 1 & 1/2 years old |
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| 03:27.50 | phorce1 | Probably optional. My year old quad core with all the bels and whistles that I could find (like 8 SATA ports and 8 USB ports) didn't have BT or 1394 built in |
| 03:27.53 | referheader | hello |
| 03:27.55 | btnz | wow, just stumbled upon ' In some countries it may be illegal to use any encryption at all without a special permit. ' on the ssh site.. thats tough |
| 03:28.16 | referheader | my resolv.conf is getting rewritten all the time - or whenever i change it by text editor or gui |
| 03:28.31 | referheader | i lost connectivity because of this |
| 03:29.21 | Gokee2 | phorce1, Ah I see, the book had said something about bluetooth but I figured at the time I would need something extra or what not to make it wook but did not really look into it as I did not need bluetooth at the time |
| 03:29.45 | Tramp | !tell referheader -about override dns |
| 03:29.57 | bpun | Gokee2, what motherboard is it? |
| 03:30.00 | referheader | yes tell me pray tell |
| 03:30.27 | Gokee2 | bpun, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131180 ASUS P5K LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel |
| 03:30.28 | bpun | referheader, probably the resolvconf package |
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| 03:31.08 | Gokee2 | is still trying to find a online manual, he might have to go poke his closet again |
| 03:32.40 | referheader | thanks |
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| 03:34.19 | phorce1 | Gokee2: This says "Expansion slots -- Bluetooth - No" http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pi/35-1078389/Motherboards/ASUS-P5K-EPU-Product-Info |
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| 03:36.07 | Gokee2 | phorce1, Ah I see, too bad |
| 03:36.20 | phorce1 | Gokee2: Most of those type sites pull their "specs" lists straight from the manufacturer website |
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| 03:37.49 | phorce1 | You can buy USB-->BlueTooth adapters. Don't go cheap though. I tried a couple and they were absolutely useless. |
| 03:38.14 | Gokee2 | phorce1, Hmm, this is annoying |
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| 03:39.39 | Gokee2 | phorce1, There http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ES-388&cat=WLS is a nice cheap one :) |
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| 03:43.28 | bpun | Gokee2, gosh.. you love buying cheap stuff! |
| 03:43.46 | bpun | that's good! |
| 03:44.00 | Gokee2 | bpun, My wallet feels better with cheap stuff :) |
| 03:44.06 | bpun | buy my apple II! |
| 03:44.12 | Gokee2 | lol |
| 03:44.25 | bpun | and try uclinux! |
| 03:44.25 | Gokee2 | my wallet hates shipping though |
| 03:45.02 | bpun | Gokee2, how much was the gps device? |
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| 03:45.20 | Gokee2 | bpun, $20 |
| 03:46.12 | bpun | Gokee2, i've tested out those things a while ago.. haven't been succesful on the linux platform at the time (about 3 years ago).. are there any linux gps apps worth checking out? |
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| 03:46.56 | Gokee2 | bpun, I don't really know as I have not got it working yet... at a glance http://www.gpsdrive.de/ looks cool though |
| 03:47.13 | bpun | i have to change a video driver option |
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| 03:55.05 | Gokee2 | wonders if he could take about the gps unit and rewire it :/ |
| 03:55.11 | Gokee2 | apart* |
| 03:55.50 | phorce1 | Gokee2: look for an adapter model here: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/search_res.php?pattern=bluetooth |
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| 03:58.05 | Gokee2 | phorce1, Ah, thats a handy list |
| 03:59.09 | phorce1 | Gokee2: the one Conwise adapter listed on that page is listed as "maybe" working(and it's not the same model number as the geeks one |
| 03:59.13 | phorce1 | ) |
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| 03:59.41 | Gokee2 | hmm |
| 04:00.05 | Ricky_RocK | what is the command to write to load a .php page every hours for 5 minut because the page take 5 minut to load completelyaa |
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| 04:01.59 | Ricky_RocK | what is the command to write in cron to load a .php page every hours for 5 minut because the page take 5 minut to load completely |
| 04:02.00 | Gokee2 | http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PA-BD10&cat=WLS is not even listed on the page you gave |
| 04:03.01 | Gokee2 | Ricky_RocK, can you wget the page? |
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| 04:04.18 | unikon | after installing the latest version of teamspeak 2 for linux after installing on Lenny why is it i cant see it anywhere on the menu or application list |
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| 04:04.32 | unikon | ive received no errors |
| 04:05.19 | luke3321 | Hey guys, I'm on gnome and need someone with kde's help. Could you just get the absolute location of kdesu? |
| 04:05.43 | trazan | unikon: some applications dont automatically get into menus, you can add them manually |
| 04:06.00 | trazan | luke, try "locate kdesudo" |
| 04:06.17 | trazan | or if it's called "locate kdesu" |
| 04:06.39 | luke3321 | hmm.... Dont know why its on my computer.... I dont even have kde... But it is |
| 04:06.43 | luke3321 | haha thanks |
| 04:07.27 | unikon | how can i add it manually trazan |
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| 04:08.29 | trazan | i dont use gnome, unikon, maybe rightclick on the menu or use gconf, im sure there are guides |
| 04:08.40 | Ricky_RocK | what is the command to write in cron to load a .php page every hours for 5 minut because the page take 5 minut to load completely |
| 04:09.16 | phorce1 | Gokee2: The cheapest I've found so far that IS on the list is http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3399853&CatId=906 |
| 04:09.20 | unikon | looking into that now trazan |
| 04:10.09 | Gokee2 | phorce1, thats like $27 after shipping :( |
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| 04:10.55 | macrobat | unikon: can you run teamspeak from terminal or from alt-F2? |
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| 04:13.14 | unikon | negative on both macrobat |
| 04:14.19 | Gokee2 | phorce1, Ahha http://www.frys.com/product/5727672?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG |
| 04:14.29 | Gokee2 | ($15) |
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| 04:16.08 | unikon | macrobat i can run teaamspeak after clicking on the start icon in my homefolder |
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| 04:33.39 | ryanhaigh | hi all, can anyone tell me how to completely disable my cdrom from software, it is broken and i can't unplug it |
| 04:33.43 | ryanhaigh | (inside laptop) |
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| 04:35.25 | mrtn1232 | am I right that cdrecord is kind of low-level ultimate tool for creating CD/DVD/BD disks? I mean is there any other low-level CD/DVD/BD recording tool, which can do something that cdrecord can't? |
| 04:35.50 | enouf | un-freakin believable - this dell bios just sucks soooooooo much smelly hairy ass |
| 04:36.12 | click170 | I've noticed that the traffic accounting (in ifconfig) for interfaces has a limit and rolls over at ~4.3Gigabytes, is there any way to increase this? |
| 04:37.33 | enouf | trazan: which <binary-name> should find it ;-) |
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| 04:40.57 | Ricky_RocK | what is the command to write in cron to load a .php page every hours for 5 minut because the page take 5 minut to load completely |
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| 04:46.31 | shivraj | im thinking about opening a service to help people get linux installed ... is there anything like this right now ? |
| 04:46.59 | redstick | yeah |
| 04:47.02 | shivraj | most people just need to be able to browse the internet without their computers slowing dowing .. |
| 04:47.03 | redstick | its called IRC |
| 04:47.15 | shivraj | down |
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| 04:47.37 | shivraj | redstick: but what about the thousands that have no clue about linux ? |
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| 04:47.57 | shivraj | maybe millions if not billions :) |
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| 04:52.23 | trazan | which lua pkgs would i need for awesome? for editing and running scripts and such |
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| 04:55.18 | bullgard4 | What is a 'ULi Driver'? (in http://www.nvidia.com/page/uli_drivers.html) |
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| 05:15.25 | andy753421 | Hello, I'm writing some software and would like to provide a package for debian users, but I don't use debian myself.. any suggestions on how to go about doing so? |
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| 05:22.56 | enouf | omg, it's sooooo easy to break the kernel ... lmap |
| 05:23.04 | enouf | bullgard4: Uli is a vhipset |
| 05:23.08 | enouf | bullgard4: Uli is a chipset |
| 05:23.22 | enouf | bullgard4: a motherboard one - used to be ALi |
| 05:24.27 | enouf | then amd64 came around and dual cores and they had the 1st system that had BOTH an AGP slot _and_ a PCI-Express one .. so you could upgrade the CPU from SingleCore AMD64->DualCore, AND upgrade from AGP->PCI-Express |
| 05:24.36 | enouf | bullgard4: ^^^^^ |
| 05:24.49 | enouf | if i recall correctly |
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| 05:28.43 | bullgard4 | enouf: Ah! Thank you for explaining. I can use your information now to do more snooping more efficiently to solve my Amilo computer's software problem. |
| 05:29.02 | enouf | bullgard4: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?threadid=244389 |
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| 05:29.25 | enouf | bullgard4: s939 (Socket939) amd64 |
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| 05:31.36 | sanmarcos | so I have a question, once my package gets added by a sponsors, I assume to sid, does it flow down to testing/stable? |
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| 05:33.12 | enouf | bullgard4: actually - that's a much newer version (of combination AGP + PCIe) than i recall ... but doesn't matter for your need |
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| 05:35.02 | enouf | bullgard4: i would have to load up my older win98 bookmarks to find the board i meant - it had some issues, but was CHEAP and yes, an ASrock and yes, it overclocked well, according to some, but the "PCIe x16 + AGP 8x" (naturally you couldn't use BOTH at the same time) was a bit of a x8 or something they hid about the spec |
| 05:35.16 | bullgard4 | andy753421: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7564676 |
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| 05:35.56 | enouf | andy753421: /msg dpkg package basics ; /msg dpkg mentors ; /mag dpkg nmg |
| 05:36.13 | enouf | and see also bullgard4 's links |
| 05:37.15 | enouf | if i tell you too much, others will presume you _know_ a lot about packaging when asking for help |
| 05:37.21 | scientes | why didn't this get built for amd64? http://packages.debian.org/experimental/virt-manager |
| 05:37.54 | enouf | scientes: it's exper; maybe the pkg just wasn't yet built? |
| 05:38.06 | scientes | its ben like that for a week |
| 05:38.13 | enouf | scientes: try #debian-amd64 |
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| 05:38.40 | scientes | wait 4 days |
| 05:38.51 | enouf | !hurry |
| 05:38.52 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... We do not cater to the ["me!me!me! : mine!mine!mine! : now!now!now!now!"] crowd .. so bugger off! Run home crying now ..and tell jo'momma that we spanked you! |
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| 05:39.32 | scientes | :P |
| 05:39.44 | enouf | goes to his ssh tunnel to knoppix |
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| 05:43.47 | enouf | wow - what a dump ... try this; and watch the livecd lock up; ll /etc/ | grep '\.sh' |
| 05:44.05 | enouf | who the fuck writes this crap? |
| 05:44.08 | enouf | heh |
| 05:44.14 | scientes | run it from loop back |
| 05:44.25 | liable | huh? |
| 05:44.29 | scientes | invm |
| 05:44.31 | enouf | what do you think UnionFS is |
| 05:44.32 | enouf | ? |
| 05:44.49 | scientes | life cds from hard drive virtualized is faster |
| 05:44.54 | enouf | liable: hola and aloha |
| 05:44.56 | scientes | but of course it doesn't see hardware that way |
| 05:45.10 | liable | enouf: salut! ;) |
| 05:45.29 | enouf | scientes: you have no idea what your talking aboutt - nnot to mention - you have NO IDEA how crappy this dell MP xeon BIOS is |
| 05:45.35 | katina | Hello everyone. |
| 05:45.50 | katina | I've recently gotten debian lenny installed on an ibook g3 (dual usb). |
| 05:45.52 | scientes | yeah i wasn't thinking |
| 05:46.14 | katina | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.17 | katina | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:46.32 | katina | I also can't get 1024x768 resolution. |
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| 05:47.04 | enouf | liable: how come my pentiumII enables DMA for a Toshiba DVD-ROM M1202 (or someshit) .. but this Dell Xeon dual cpus plops it into mdma mode!! .. what a fucken dump -- naturally hdparm spits out it's HD_* errors when i try to enbale udma or even dma |
| 05:47.19 | katina | can anyone assist me? |
| 05:47.20 | enouf | liable: my p2 enables udma2 actually |
| 05:47.57 | enouf | and it's a fucken 440BX / SB82443 Southy .. not even an ICH POFS! |
| 05:48.28 | enouf | that ls -l is STILL HANGING |
| 05:49.13 | enouf | naturally ^C does nothing |
| 05:50.00 | enouf | wait, that SB is incorrect |
| 05:50.16 | enouf | 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01 |
| 05:50.23 | enouf | there .. for my p2 |
| 05:50.38 | enouf | 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) |
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| 05:50.49 | enouf | northy |
| 05:50.59 | xingu | enouf: how come you're still using pata. :) |
| 05:51.11 | liable | google the controller I guess, sounds like its a pos |
| 05:51.13 | enouf | xingu: cause it "Just works!" |
| 05:51.15 | enouf | :-) |
| 05:51.29 | xingu | enouf: some of the dells have a usermode tool for bios twiddling; usually rpm packaged. |
| 05:51.38 | enouf | liable: no no .. that's my p2 -- it's my babay .. |
| 05:51.43 | xingu | enouf: is this a desktop or a rackmount? |
| 05:51.50 | enouf | the POFS i'm talkin about is a DELL |
| 05:52.11 | enouf | Dual CPU XEON .. 2x 1.7G |
| 05:52.29 | enouf | Workstation Precision 530MT |
| 05:52.40 | enouf | xingu: ^^^ |
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| 05:53.12 | enouf | xingu: it's nasty man - the BIOS cannot even pass boot sequences properly .. not to mention lack of options |
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| 05:55.15 | enouf | xingu: here http://pompone.cs.ucsb.edu/admin/530_Workstation/index.htm |
| 05:57.33 | enouf | the AGP card slot is 4x and has a Nvidia fx 5500 which doesn't seat properly cause the whole entire case design twisted the shit out of it - not to mention the Proprietary PSU which is on the "door" .. heh |
| 05:57.33 | xingu | enouf: http://tinyurl.com/mn5b6z |
| 05:58.32 | enouf | xingu: why does that site try to lock up even my links2! :-P |
| 05:59.31 | xingu | enouf: either the diag util or the system utils will have a tool for poking at the bios in. |
| 05:59.46 | enouf | xingu: can you help me upgrade the BIOS? version i have is A03, latest is A11, yet it's an MSDOS MZ format ... so an .exe ... and i guess i can try booting Knoppix to FreeDOS and dump it to floppy, then iFlash |
| 06:00.00 | enouf | xingu: i see |
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| 06:00.28 | enouf | xingu: BTW, that ls -l is STILL hanging ... heh |
| 06:00.32 | xingu | enouf: that's it, flash up to latest is always the right thing to do with dells. |
| 06:00.42 | enouf | indeed |
| 06:00.43 | xingu | enouf: as to how, intargoogle your favourite dos boot env |
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| 06:01.01 | xingu | enouf: suggest you avoid usb boot unless as a last resort |
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| 06:01.50 | xingu | enouf: dosbox under linux will probably be sufficient to extract their flash tool self-extractor. |
| 06:02.00 | enouf | xingu: i was messing with booting into an old win98 install i had on .. /dev/hdc4 (*FOUR*!!) hence, not hd0,0, and not 1st primary Disk, nor 1st partition --- hehe |
| 06:02.12 | enouf | xingu: then, i saw Biosdisk |
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| 06:02.43 | enouf | xingu: i'll get it ... just fucking around with such trivial shit shouldn't require a degree in ASM!@ ;-) |
| 06:02.57 | xingu | enouf: it just requires a degree in dell |
| 06:03.02 | enouf | haha |
| 06:03.12 | enouf | you're sooooo right ... check this out |
| 06:03.17 | xingu | enouf: their r610 is a very nice thing |
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| 06:03.33 | enouf | http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2002-June/003037.html xingu |
| 06:04.07 | enouf | xingu: one good apple amongst a barrel of rotten monkeys does not make for a tasty proposition ;-) |
| 06:04.49 | xingu | enouf: they've actually got their shit together in the high volume rack space. |
| 06:04.59 | enouf | tickles xingu .. seems his sense of humor was left elsewhere |
| 06:05.01 | xingu | enouf: never thought I'd see the day, but they do. |
| 06:05.21 | enouf | xingu: this is 2001 crap .. so, prolly .. took long enough, eh? |
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| 06:05.39 | enouf | xingu: my point is, my 1998 crap is much better |
| 06:05.55 | enouf | it's disgusting |
| 06:06.24 | xingu | enouf: http://tinyurl.com/mamlzo <-- I've been busy installing a few hundred of these. :) |
| 06:06.36 | enouf | xingu: how about my ssh issue - it's all on LAN ... why is it so hung? .. let me post to pastebin ... |
| 06:06.36 | xingu | enouf: fully loaded spec. :) |
| 06:06.57 | enouf | xingu: at a later time - thanks, i WILL look though ... |
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| 06:07.29 | mf_417 | hi |
| 06:07.38 | mf_417 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.39 | enouf | i need to figure out why this command hangs - i'm FORTUNATE it's not remote - but fuck LiveCDs .. anyways, there's a reason |
| 06:08.23 | enouf | or .. any <commmand> through SSH that hangs, that i cannot break out of, without yanking out the PSU cable |
| 06:08.42 | enouf | $ ll /etc/ | grep '\.sh' <-- so bad? |
| 06:08.49 | enouf | while logged in as a user |
| 06:09.01 | enouf | it's STILL hung |
| 06:09.19 | enouf | fuck the pastebin -- here tcp 0 0 192.168.0.2:58191 192.168.0.4:22 ESTABLISHED 3433/ssh |
| 06:09.44 | xingu | enouf: is the socket still open on 192.168.0.4 ? |
| 06:09.56 | enouf | xingu: do tell me how to check, lsof? |
| 06:10.01 | xingu | enouf: netstat -anp |
| 06:10.12 | xingu | enouf: ... grep for 58191 |
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| 06:10.40 | enouf | unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 7494 2689/ssh-agent /tmp/ssh-KrTiic2639/agent.2639 |
| 06:10.43 | enouf | unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 7497 2690/ssh-agent /tmp/ssh-xONhOl2639/agent.2639 |
| 06:11.14 | enouf | however ... grep sock yields unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 6222 2285/dbus-daemon /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket |
| 06:11.27 | xingu | enouf: anything for 58191? |
| 06:11.33 | enouf | which is unrelated .. ok, wait |
| 06:11.49 | enouf | tcp 0 0 192.168.0.2:58191 192.168.0.4:22 ESTABLISHED 3433/ssh |
| 06:12.02 | enouf | ~$ sudo netstat -anp | grep 58191 |
| 06:12.12 | enouf | my -tunap showed that |
| 06:12.19 | mf_417 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.24 | xingu | enouf: ok, so strace -p 3433 |
| 06:14.08 | enouf | Command: cat somefile1 attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, ...): No such process |
| 06:14.13 | enouf | er |
| 06:14.28 | enouf | ~$ sudo strace -p 3343 |
| 06:14.29 | enouf | attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, ...): No such process |
| 06:14.40 | enouf | fuck |
| 06:14.42 | xingu | enouf: 3433 ... and over on 192.168.0.4 |
| 06:14.44 | enouf | wrong PID |
| 06:15.02 | bpun | notices package launchtool which may help debugging |
| 06:15.08 | enouf | ~$ sudo strace -p 3433 |
| 06:15.09 | enouf | Process 3433 attached - interrupt to quit |
| 06:15.09 | enouf | select(7, [3 4], [], NULL, NULL |
| 06:15.21 | enouf | xingu: that's it, 3 lines |
| 06:15.47 | xingu | enouf: so take a look at /proc/3433/fd/7 and see what it is |
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| 06:16.03 | enouf | i hit ENTER and it just jumps to another empty line, no Prompt or anything |
| 06:16.17 | xingu | enouf: alternatively use lsof against the process; it's either the socket descriptor to 192.168.0.2 or it's a filedescriptor for the bash session |
| 06:16.25 | bpun | enouf, there's also this package mtr which may help watching what gets lost across the network |
| 06:16.28 | xingu | enouf: either way sshd is waiting for output from it |
| 06:16.57 | xingu | enouf: if it's the bash terminal - use pstree -p 3433 to find it, and then strace *it* |
| 06:17.22 | enouf | xingu: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m2a8cd473 |
| 06:17.36 | enouf | it hung .. waited about 30 secs then spit out that shit |
| 06:17.48 | xingu | enouf: also output from ps -o wchan,args -p ${bash_pid} might be interesting |
| 06:17.53 | enouf | xingu: now my ~$ sudo cat /proc/3433/fd/7 is hung |
| 06:17.57 | xingu | enouf: yes, it'll be using select with 30s timeout |
| 06:18.08 | xingu | enouf: don't use cat; use ls ;) |
| 06:19.04 | enouf | xingu: you are way too intelligent for my ignorance and madness, can you tell me how tokill it withOUT having to pull the power? -- i cannot even read and process all the good info you've given AND work on this |
| 06:19.17 | xingu | enouf: pstree -p 3433 |
| 06:19.22 | xingu | enouf: what children does it have? |
| 06:19.23 | bpun | enouf, you mention strace, did you also check out ltrace? |
| 06:19.28 | bpun | lol |
| 06:19.40 | bpun | says strace ltrace .. sounds like mace in enouf's face :) |
| 06:19.40 | enouf | 64 2009-08-02 02:07 /proc/3433/fd/7 -> /dev/ptmx |
| 06:19.41 | xingu | enouf: then ps -o wchan,args -p ${eachpid} |
| 06:19.51 | enouf | username:username |
| 06:19.56 | enouf | lrwx------ |
| 06:20.03 | xingu | enouf: ok so this is the pty for the bash shell sshd has exec'd. |
| 06:20.16 | enouf | yuo asked -- see "what it is". so i catted the fucker |
| 06:20.22 | enouf | ok |
| 06:20.36 | enouf | i know pty/pts |
| 06:20.40 | enouf | but ptmx ? |
| 06:20.52 | xingu | enouf: so now just find it and look at wchan for it - if it's blocking in the kernel you're fucked, you can stop it from 192.168.0.2 but the child will continue as a zombie on 192.168.0.4 until godot arrives |
| 06:21.03 | xingu | enouf: pts(4) |
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| 06:21.34 | enouf | xingu: just to post http://pastebin.ca/raw/1515464 <-- pstree -lunap |
| 06:21.57 | hugo | where can i learn how to build a deb package? |
| 06:22.05 | enouf | xingu: why do i get the feeling that "ssh-agent" is causing issues here |
| 06:22.14 | hugo | Debian New Maintainers' Guide ? |
| 06:22.15 | xingu | enouf: is that from 192.168.0.4 ? |
| 06:22.29 | enouf | xingu: no, .0.2 |
| 06:22.38 | xingu | enouf: ... from .0.4 would be nice. :) |
| 06:22.46 | enouf | xingu: it's still hung! |
| 06:23.03 | xingu | enouf: and specifically pstree -p 3433 |
| 06:23.09 | xingu | enouf: even to new logins? |
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| 06:23.50 | enouf | xingu: wait, i can close the shell out ... but i did that already way before you showed up .. and .. nothing changed |
| 06:23.58 | enouf | i even restarted sshd on the server |
| 06:24.10 | enouf | BUT .. SUPPOSE it was remote! |
| 06:24.29 | xingu | enouf: we need to find the process id on the far end not 0.2 |
| 06:24.56 | enouf | i actually went onto .0.4 (via jumping over a physiucal K+V+M heh) and pkill sshd |
| 06:25.12 | enouf | xingu: ok - i'll bbiab then? |
| 06:25.20 | xingu | enouf: so from the top (and all on 0.4) netstat -anp | grep 58191; then strace -p that pid, look to see what it's up to; if it's in a select loop, look at what fd it's busy-waiting for |
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| 06:25.44 | enouf | xingu: i have to physically pull/put the K+V+M into other box (.0.4) |
| 06:25.54 | enouf | ok |
| 06:26.03 | xingu | enouf: then, find out what that fd is; if it's a local-to-0.4 process, find it with ls on the /proc/.../fd, and find the process with pstree |
| 06:26.29 | xingu | enouf: finally, depending on care factor, look via ps -o wchan at what that child (busy-waited-on) process is up to |
| 06:26.44 | xingu | enouf: if it's blocked in kernel - you probably have a filesystem error of some description |
| 06:26.49 | enouf | xingu: i'll try to remember all that ;-) |
| 06:26.59 | xingu | enouf: ie nfs mount hung, fuse filesystem crashed, ext read errors, etc. |
| 06:27.03 | hugo | any one build deb packages? |
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| 06:27.19 | enouf | xingu: the sshd (.0.4) is a livecd knoppix boot of a 2.6.11 kernel |
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| 06:27.40 | enouf | now .. we get back to Dellio and crappy nodma support for the 5.x DVDs i have! |
| 06:27.43 | xingu | enouf: so the cdrom could be erroring away like crap |
| 06:27.50 | enouf | xingu: no, it works fine |
| 06:27.54 | enouf | i know it does |
| 06:28.02 | enouf | i've used it many times |
| 06:28.21 | xingu | enouf: sure, but under this netinstall of linux? perhaps it's throwing ata errors like billy-o |
| 06:28.32 | djahandarie | Hello, I'm running squeeze. Is it possible to use the 2.6.30 kernel from sid? I apt-get'd it but when I restarted it was still on 2.6.26 |
| 06:28.33 | xingu | s/net/live/ |
| 06:28.57 | enouf | xingu: it's not ... but i understand you have to ask .. |
| 06:29.20 | xingu | enouf: ok; well generally when things block like that it's because they block in kernel space, and generally *that* is IO related. |
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| 06:30.03 | enouf | xingu: the stupid BIOS will boot the DVD versions, and newer 5.x so newer kernels (.19 and .24 even for 5.3) but they BOTH require the nodma param to boot .... ughh |
| 06:30.20 | LuciusMare | Hey,i have got a phone (touch diamond 2) with a gprs modem.What do i have to do if i want to connect to the internet through it? |
| 06:30.33 | xingu | enouf: generally most other syscalls will fail - the ones that won't in general are vfs and mm related. |
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| 06:30.53 | enouf | xingu: the kernel reports the HT flag for the CPUs, though dmesg says "Disabled" and if you saw that thread ... i posted |
| 06:31.01 | xingu | enouf: I did... |
| 06:31.05 | enouf | ok |
| 06:31.42 | enouf | xingu: i'll jump over there now .. bbiab? |
| 06:32.46 | enouf | xingu: i'm trying not to pull my video (and keys + mouse) .. physically .. until you are done .. i'll remain connected here though |
| 06:33.05 | enouf | xingu: i just need an 'ok .. go for it' ;-) |
| 06:33.30 | xingu | enouf: ok, go for it ;) |
| 06:33.37 | enouf | xingu: ;-) |
| 06:33.50 | xingu | goes back to breaking shit |
| 06:34.13 | LuciusMare | anyone? |
| 06:34.29 | LuciusMare | what do i have to do to connect with gprs modem-phone? |
| 06:36.35 | liable | i told you yesterday |
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| 06:45.08 | enouf | xingu: back .. ugh! |
| 06:45.23 | enouf | xingu: i passtebinned a lot of those command outputs |
| 06:45.41 | fxiny | enouf: fixed it ? :) |
| 06:45.48 | enouf | and .. i even tried to do my xchat and sign on to talk to you, but it would never connect |
| 06:45.51 | enouf | fxiny: no |
| 06:46.12 | enouf | xingu: and eventually xchat too ended up being ownd via init |
| 06:46.16 | enouf | owned |
| 06:46.45 | enouf | i have no idea what the exact URL s are, but it's at pastebin.comn |
| 06:46.57 | enouf | everything is all hung up though |
| 06:47.46 | enouf | fxiny: i _fixed_ some of the hardware issues, as best i could, for now ... but, now ssh is hung like crazy |
| 06:49.19 | enouf | xingu: i can't take it -- i tried , but the cart-before-the-horse doesn't work well for me ;-) |
| 06:49.27 | enouf | xingu: i'm yanking the plug |
| 06:50.41 | enouf | xingu: turns out pastebin.com takes a NAME field -- didn't think of it -- and it's being spammed at the moment, so all recent "Anonymous" ones are real crap - |
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| 06:51.28 | sanmarcos | I set my hard drive to spin down with hdparm every 5 minutes |
| 06:51.33 | sanmarcos | however it randomly spins up once in a while |
| 06:51.43 | sanmarcos | how can I see the process, or waht is causing access to that disk in my computer? |
| 06:52.54 | liable | echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump |
| 06:52.55 | enouf | sanmarcos: try laptop-mode and power-management pkgs and maybe acpi ones |
| 06:53.02 | liable | then tail syslog |
| 06:53.08 | enouf | hrm .. |
| 06:53.21 | enouf | mine randomly crashes the heads once a day :-P |
| 06:53.24 | rozie | sanmarcos: try iotop |
| 06:53.43 | sanmarcos | dont have acpi disabled it |
| 06:53.47 | enouf | i KNOW it's some old hdparm setting i set ~sargetimes |
| 06:54.03 | enouf | you'll never tell |
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| 06:54.13 | enouf | unless you run the kernel debugger |
| 06:54.15 | liable | enouf: i reckon that thing of yours has hardware issues, prolly why it was in the bin to start with :P had a close look at the mobo for cracks and shit? |
| 06:54.53 | sanmarcos | so I should run iotop all the time and when my hd spins up see waht process is using disk read/write? |
| 06:54.57 | sanmarcos | or is there a better way? |
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| 06:55.31 | enouf | liable: i know .. it likely is - but the issues i'm upon really has nothing to do with "hardare" issues .. IOW, i know why the BIOS sucks, and it won't boot certain things, unless they are Primary and listed properly, etc .. but this is a SSH + kernel issue |
| 06:55.47 | sanmarcos | do packages from sid eventually make their way down to stable? |
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| 06:56.12 | liable | akitada: no, once stable is released, it doesnt get new versions |
| 06:56.18 | enouf | liable: i'm pretty good at separating out hardware from software issues, when i have "hands on" |
| 06:56.19 | liable | erm, sanmarcos ^^ |
| 06:56.34 | liable | akitada: sorry, wrong nick |
| 06:56.43 | beardy | sanmarcos: They make it down to testing, and into stable, when testing is frozen. No new packages enter stable when it has been released, only security fixes. |
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| 06:57.26 | sanmarcos | how long does it take for unstable packages (i.e just added package) to get into testing? |
| 06:58.51 | enouf | sanmarcos: 10days - 2 weeks .. or more |
| 06:59.03 | enouf | why>? |
| 06:59.05 | sanmarcos | ah ok, nice, I wanted to know because I am submitting a package to unstable soon |
| 06:59.08 | enouf | why do you care? |
| 06:59.11 | enouf | oh |
| 06:59.26 | sanmarcos | and I want it to be in squeeze when it freezes in december |
| 06:59.37 | enouf | sanmarcos: which is? unstable doesn't get pkgs unless they have a CHANCE to get to testing |
| 06:59.52 | enouf | !hug liable |
| 06:59.52 | dpkg | wraps his shiny metal lovin' arms around liable |
| 06:59.57 | sanmarcos | what do you mean chance? |
| 07:00.04 | sanmarcos | enouf: you mean what is the package I am submitting? |
| 07:00.09 | enouf | i mean "chance" |
| 07:00.14 | enouf | yes |
| 07:00.22 | sanmarcos | enouf: http://itaka.jardinpresente.com.ar |
| 07:00.31 | enouf | sanmarcos: and have you cleared it with the devs? |
| 07:00.34 | enouf | ok |
| 07:00.35 | liable | more hugs! |
| 07:00.37 | sanmarcos | enouf: I am the developer, I am doing a new release soon and submitting into debian |
| 07:00.46 | enouf | sexcellent! |
| 07:00.49 | enouf | er.. |
| 07:00.51 | enouf | haha |
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| 07:00.52 | cantido | :/ |
| 07:00.55 | sanmarcos | its already in Fedora |
| 07:00.59 | enouf | sanmarcos: excellent! |
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| 07:01.11 | enouf | wonderful |
| 07:01.20 | enouf | is it even remotely useful? |
| 07:01.34 | sanmarcos | and I already make debian packages, so might as well submit it |
| 07:01.51 | enouf | i'm not unpacking an .ar |
| 07:01.54 | bpun | sanmarcos, sounds like toilet wash.. |
| 07:01.59 | bpun | sanmarcos, lol |
| 07:02.02 | sanmarcos | enouf: it is for me, I use it with friends to share "screens", it could be useful for remote monitoring |
| 07:02.11 | enouf | sanmarcos: why not posta link to your site explaining what it is? |
| 07:02.14 | bpun | sanmarcos, you should practice :) |
| 07:02.23 | sanmarcos | I did post a link |
| 07:02.27 | sanmarcos | http://itaka.jardinpresente.com.ar |
| 07:02.41 | cantido | sanmarcos: sharing x sessions? |
| 07:02.42 | sanmarcos | http://www.sf.net/projects/itaka if you want |
| 07:02.43 | bpun | doesn't want any discouragement. |
| 07:02.46 | enouf | oh - heh. country code? |
| 07:02.50 | sanmarcos | argentina |
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| 07:03.06 | stevierabie | http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Beach/108505862581?ref=ts |
| 07:03.12 | sanmarcos | cantido: no, its an HTTP server, when it gets a request, it takes a screenshot and makes an HTML file with it. an on-demand screenshot server |
| 07:03.13 | stevierabie | join it |
| 07:03.18 | bpun | says what makes a good package manager is abiding to debian's rtfm! |
| 07:03.22 | beardy | !ops stevierabie |
| 07:03.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: beardy complains about: stevierabie |
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| 07:03.31 | rozie | it's like vnc in view mode? |
| 07:03.31 | enouf | sanmarcos: thanks for posting a proper url - my bad, i mistook the URL as a AR file |
| 07:03.37 | cantido | sanmarcos: I see, why's it called itaka? |
| 07:03.37 | stevierabie | http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Beach/108505862581?ref=ts |
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| 07:03.46 | liable | twat |
| 07:03.57 | cydork | !sing sunday |
| 07:03.57 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 07:03.57 | enouf | shithead stevieasshole |
| 07:04.02 | sanmarcos | cantido: itaka in spanish, especially in argentina is a name for a type of shotgun |
| 07:04.19 | enouf | sanmarcos: 12 guage? |
| 07:04.31 | enouf | !shoot stevierabie |
| 07:04.31 | cantido | sanmarcos: ah cool.. I would have called it jamon |
| 07:04.31 | dpkg | blows stevierabie away with a double-barreled shotgun |
| 07:04.35 | enouf | haha |
| 07:04.39 | cantido | <3 jamon |
| 07:05.00 | beardy | It's a company name.. and it's spelled Ithaca.. |
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| 07:05.14 | enouf | that's a city in NY State! |
| 07:05.17 | sanmarcos | beardy: ah, didnt know, thanks |
| 07:05.19 | beardy | Too. |
| 07:05.23 | enouf | ;-) |
| 07:05.55 | enouf | cydork: hola and aloha mi amigo ;-) |
| 07:06.02 | enouf | cydork: good to see ya |
| 07:06.20 | enouf | why? ... no idea :-p |
| 07:06.29 | cydork | enouf, good morning! :) |
| 07:07.00 | cantido | that can't be real spanish.. where's the chiquillo |
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| 07:07.09 | enouf | finally closes out the hung ssh process -- even though the power was pulled years ago from the sshd - heh |
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| 07:07.34 | enouf | !chupacabrasmite cantido |
| 07:07.49 | kamalnandan | hi..can i ask debian packaging questions here? |
| 07:07.57 | sanmarcos | yes kamalnandan |
| 07:08.12 | kbmaniac | hi all, looking to install debian for my main desktop, how stable is testing ?, I understand it may break parts of the system from time to time but does this happen a lot ? |
| 07:08.24 | bpun | !testing |
| 07:08.25 | dpkg | [testing] A continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. |
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| 07:08.36 | sanmarcos | kbmaniac: Lenny stable seems good enough for me, I definetly would not use sid though |
| 07:08.44 | kamalnandan | i am trying to make a basic debian package...and here is the rules script that I am using.. |
| 07:08.53 | sanmarcos | !pastebin |
| 07:08.54 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 07:08.55 | kamalnandan | though i dont have any configure script |
| 07:08.56 | beardy | Pastebin. |
| 07:09.01 | cantido | kbmaniac: testing rarely breaks, but when it does it might not get fixed for a while |
| 07:09.01 | enouf | kbmaniac: i run unstable (i ONLY say that in case you're reading scrollback and wondering) |
| 07:09.10 | kamalnandan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/243401/ |
| 07:09.18 | enouf | kbmaniac: Stable is best for most newcomers |
| 07:09.30 | beardy | What a politically incorrect bin. |
| 07:09.51 | sanmarcos | kbmaniac: if its an ubuntu deb you are trying to make you should ask the ubuntu community |
| 07:09.54 | enouf | xingu: thank you (just wanted to get that in there) |
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| 07:10.35 | kamalnandan | sanmarcos: isnt it true that both ubuntu as well as debian packaging are same.. |
| 07:10.46 | kbmaniac | thanks guys, I was on ubuntu for a few years, coming back home now :) |
| 07:11.03 | sanmarcos | this is the #ubuntu channel sucks and people don't know much there so I come to #debian where I always get useful answers syndrome |
| 07:11.11 | sanmarcos | been there, done that |
| 07:11.20 | sanmarcos | kamalnandan: what is the error you are getting? |
| 07:11.39 | stevierabie | hi everyone |
| 07:11.54 | enouf | stevierabie: gtfo |
| 07:12.07 | cantido | kamalnandan: I think the main issue with answering ubuntu questions here would be that most people are running Debian.. so things might not be 100% the same. |
| 07:12.08 | enouf | thanks |
| 07:12.22 | bpun | enouf, stevierabie was jamming the other chans as well |
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| 07:12.47 | fxiny | enouf: so nothing to do with the hardware |
| 07:12.51 | fxiny | oops |
| 07:12.54 | sanmarcos | virtualizes a Debian sid instance to compile his package.. |
| 07:12.56 | kamalnandan | sanmarcos: thanks.. |
| 07:13.01 | enouf | fxiny: :-P |
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| 07:13.22 | kamalnandan | follwoing is the output that I get when i do "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| 07:13.23 | kamalnandan | " |
| 07:13.34 | kamalnandan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/243434/ |
| 07:13.36 | cantido | sanmarcos: I think there is a package for creating build chroots.. probably faster than using vm's :) |
| 07:14.02 | sanmarcos | cantido: oh? I didn't know about it. I just read you need to build your deb in a SID system. |
| 07:14.11 | cantido | kamalnandan: so you're root, but trying to use fakeroot for starters |
| 07:14.28 | sanmarcos | kamalnandan: your makefile has no install rule... |
| 07:14.47 | sanmarcos | kamalnandan: /usr/bin/make DESTDIR=/home/kamal/work/packaging/hello_from_scratch/hello/hello-2.4/debian/hello install |
| 07:15.29 | cantido | sanmarcos: yeah, you could debootstrap a sid chroot, and a testing one and a stable one.. I think I saw a package for doing it all automagically though |
| 07:15.35 | kamalnandan | sanmarcos: where do i need to put this line? |
| 07:15.59 | kamalnandan | sorry..i am a beginner.. |
| 07:15.59 | sanmarcos | kamalnandan: your Makefile.. you do know what it is? |
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| 07:16.29 | echosystm | if im installing from commandline |
| 07:16.39 | echosystm | are intel video drivers installed automagically with xorg? |
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| 07:16.48 | echosystm | or do i need to install them separately |
| 07:16.54 | sanmarcos | any idea what the utility is to bootstrap a sid chorot? |
| 07:17.00 | sanmarcos | echosystm: there might be a package |
| 07:17.04 | kamalnandan | yes..i know what a makefile is ..and I have written that too...oh..i need to put that line in the makefile ..i thought this was something to put in the rules file.. |
| 07:17.13 | sanmarcos | echosystm: xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 07:17.22 | echosystm | thanks |
| 07:17.37 | sanmarcos | kamalnandan: nope, the debian process calls your makefile's make install |
| 07:17.38 | echosystm | i think this is included in the xorg pacakge |
| 07:17.58 | sanmarcos | echosystm: for me I just installed the nv package, did startx, no config file was ever touched it worked |
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| 07:19.05 | sanmarcos | cantido: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/426 is that it? |
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| 07:20.45 | sebi | hiho. i think i have a problem with the stable release. |
| 07:21.37 | bpun | sebi, excuse me? |
| 07:21.41 | kamalnandan | sanmarcos: thanks..i simply put this line in the makefile |
| 07:21.47 | kamalnandan | install: |
| 07:21.49 | bpun | sebi, you have a problem with the latest stable release? |
| 07:21.57 | kamalnandan | cp hello ${DESTDIR} |
| 07:22.21 | sanmarcos | kamalnandan: that should do it |
| 07:22.27 | kamalnandan | and then did "dpkg-buildpackage" rfakeroot |
| 07:22.41 | sanmarcos | kamalnandan: you can use the debuild command too, automated |
| 07:22.46 | sebi | while installing a system with a adaptec 2400a raid controller, the drives appear under /dev/i2o/hda, grub & lilo install fails, after rescue-system-boot and installing grub from there, i booted into the initramfs |
| 07:23.02 | sebi | and there the devices were named /dev/sda |
| 07:23.05 | kamalnandan | and then it created a "hello_2.4-0Ubuntu1_i386.deb" in the parent directory.. |
| 07:23.16 | kamalnandan | i hope its fine now.. |
| 07:23.19 | sanmarcos | can one upgrade from stable to sid? |
| 07:23.43 | kamalnandan | sanmarcos: am i right? |
| 07:23.52 | bpun | !rai |
| 07:23.53 | bpun | !raid |
| 07:23.54 | dpkg | it has been said that raid is Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. See RAID{0-5}, <Software Raid>, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels, <raid-resizing>, or kills bugs dead |
| 07:24.01 | sanmarcos | kamalnandan: try installing it, see what the package contains, etc etc |
| 07:24.03 | bpun | dam |
| 07:24.06 | sebi | => cryptserup fails miserably |
| 07:24.12 | kamalnandan | ok.. |
| 07:24.59 | bpun | sebi, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
| 07:25.18 | sebi | k, looking |
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| 07:27.08 | sebi | bpun: this is a true hardware raid card. |
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| 07:27.28 | cantido | sanmarcos: sorry, was away cooking.. that page discribes debootstap basically. You will probably find debootstrap alone useful.. stuff like creating debian build environments on top of some other Linux etc |
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| 07:27.55 | sanmarcos | cantido: yeah I just need a sid bootstrap with some packages to build my deb, my real system is lenny |
| 07:28.43 | cantido | debootstrap is perfect then |
| 07:28.56 | enouf | debootstrap |
| 07:29.05 | enouf | er .. way late |
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| 07:30.49 | cantido | debootstrap is something everyone should <3 |
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| 07:32.04 | akitada | I works only in debootstraped root. I use it as experimental environment. Once it's done, just rm -rf |
| 07:32.14 | bpun | thinks "<3" reminds him of the babes he sees on the beach |
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| 07:32.36 | cantido | it also looks like a double scoop icecream |
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| 07:32.48 | kamalnandan | sanmarcos : when i do "dpkg -i <hello_2.4-0Ubuntu1_i386.deb>", i get the following output |
| 07:32.50 | kamalnandan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/243453/ |
| 07:33.09 | bpun | is proud of the terminus font with very great three curves |
| 07:33.12 | sanmarcos | so? |
| 07:33.58 | kamalnandan | but when i use the command "which hello", it must output "/usr/local/bin"..because that was the install directory.. |
| 07:34.01 | kamalnandan | am i right.. |
| 07:34.18 | sanmarcos | dpkg -L packagename |
| 07:34.18 | dpkg | ii packagename 3.4-2.1 sanmarcos's private stamp collection |
| 07:35.06 | bpun | kamalnandan, place /usr/local/bin in $PATH |
| 07:35.12 | cantido | kamalnandan: Did you read the new maintainer guide.. especially the bit where it tells you that you need to modify you makefile to install it in the right place? |
| 07:35.13 | bpun | kamalnandan, then which should work.. |
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| 07:36.06 | dysfunctional | So here is my problem, i have a tablet, I have my xorg.conf file, I have the driver installed, I want this thing to use pressure senitivity. i think this damned thing is ignoring my xorg.conf file |
| 07:36.08 | enouf | most fonts suck ass .. what a shame |
| 07:36.35 | cantido | dysfunctional: It should say what it's doing in your log |
| 07:36.51 | dysfunctional | yea.. it looks like its not doing a damn thing but defaults |
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| 07:37.08 | bpun | enouf, terminus! |
| 07:37.12 | bpun | enouf, enough! |
| 07:37.12 | dysfunctional | which is really pissing me off, I mean why would x server ignore it own conf file? |
| 07:37.13 | bpun | :) |
| 07:37.23 | bpun | loves his terminus fonts |
| 07:37.58 | bpun | enouf, apt-get install xfonts-terminus mofo! |
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| 07:39.00 | bpun | dysfunctional, X -configure , you did? |
| 07:39.24 | dysfunctional | no xorg.conf edited |
| 07:39.56 | bpun | dysfunctional, are you saying something about xorg.conf? |
| 07:40.08 | bpun | dysfunctional, or.. |
| 07:40.11 | dysfunctional | that is what controls Xserver and X right? |
| 07:40.14 | bpun | dysfunctional, trying to mess with me? |
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| 07:40.25 | dysfunctional | no i am not trying to mess with you. |
| 07:40.32 | bpun | dysfunctional, YES YOU ARE |
| 07:40.35 | bpun | (jk) |
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| 07:40.38 | bpun | hehe |
| 07:40.49 | kamalnandan | bpun: though i didnt place /usr/local/bin in $PATH, but the binary should be there at usr/local/bin..e.g if i do "usr/local/bin/hello", it must work..right.. |
| 07:41.07 | bpun | dysfunctional, try /etc/init.d/gdm stop , then X -configure, bakup ur old xorg.conf, and copy the xorg.blah.new to /etc/X11 |
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| 07:41.25 | fxiny | ajavid: sounds familiar to you you , that bootkit /. is taling about ? :P |
| 07:41.32 | bpun | (the new copy should be xorg.conf of course) |
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| 07:41.42 | enouf | bpun: i have every font imaginable available - they all suck |
| 07:41.49 | bpun | dysfunctional, then edit the xorg.conf accordingly -- if needed be to accept the tablet's input.. |
| 07:41.57 | enouf | bpun: nimbus sans something is ok |
| 07:42.05 | bpun | dysfunctional, then start gdm again (/etc/init.d/gdm start) |
| 07:42.12 | bpun | dysfunctional, perhaps u need to load a module? |
| 07:42.20 | bpun | enouf, that sucks! |
| 07:42.22 | tawan | Jura is a nice font |
| 07:42.35 | enouf | !tohomasmite font weenies |
| 07:42.36 | bpun | terminus rules! |
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| 07:42.39 | dysfunctional | hmmm... or its not trying to bind to the right device tag or what ever its called |
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| 07:43.13 | kamalnandan | cantido: thanks I was reading the maintainer's guide too..and some others as well...but i got overwhelmed by the amount of information and got confused..however, i will read that again..i thought of just dive into packaging without going thru the tutorial first.. |
| 07:43.13 | enouf | passes out .. due to lack of legibility |
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| 07:43.18 | bpun | just had to lower his font dpi to 89, from the 92 or 96 it gets set by default |
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| 07:43.45 | bpun | terminus @ 10 pitch works great every time on any video card for me :) |
| 07:44.16 | cantido | kamalnandan: mmm it's not too hard, if you just follow the example of packaging and get that working you're set |
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| 07:45.26 | bpun | enouf, if you want fonts, there's a site where u can simply copy the ttf font to .xfonts, and type fc-cache -fv ~/.fonts |
| 07:45.27 | dysfunctional | i get this in the log when i connect it in if this means anyting http://pastebin.com/d1086c195 |
| 07:45.45 | enouf | hurls a tomahawk at the the tahoma font weenies, due to incorrect spelling |
| 07:46.04 | bpun | enouf, the terminus fonts seems to me, the closest of the 75 and 100 dpi that i was used to with the older X servers.. |
| 07:46.07 | enouf | simply? hahaha |
| 07:46.13 | enouf | passes out |
| 07:46.36 | bpun | enouf, try the disney font.. magical world of wonder |
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| 07:46.54 | enouf | welcome to my magical kingdom |
| 07:46.58 | fxiny | uses terminus even at breakfast |
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| 07:47.02 | bpun | enouf, it's one step to start using a new font, downloadable from the net.. |
| 07:47.28 | bpun | enouf, but i checked and compared.. still terminus wins for me.. |
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| 07:47.48 | dazman | terminus > *, fact. |
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| 07:47.54 | fxiny | yes |
| 07:47.55 | cantido | likes konsole's font.. whatever it is |
| 07:47.57 | enouf | are you deaf? i'm sleeping! .. hear me snore! |
| 07:48.11 | enouf | konsole fonts suck ass |
| 07:48.12 | bpun | enouf, use the wingdings bitch! |
| 07:48.20 | bpun | enouf, >:) mwahahaha |
| 07:48.22 | enouf | and there's no easy way to alter them |
| 07:48.22 | kamalnandan | infact..i dont know how to write a configure file too(which is not mandatory), and some other thimgs as well..i just know how to write a c/cpp program and the makefile reqd to compile that..will that be enough to understand that..i want to do packaging from scratch and dont want to download some or the other already built packages(which the tutorial frequeantly talks of e.g. hello.tar.gz etc).. |
| 07:48.36 | kamalnandan | infact, i want to write on a clean slate.. |
| 07:48.38 | enouf | KDE sucks smelly hairy bloated ass |
| 07:48.41 | liable | bullshit, you just pick whatever one you want in the preferences |
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| 07:48.57 | enouf | stop pissing me off woith your fucken nonsense |
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| 07:49.07 | cammoblammo | Is there a standard place to put files that are shared by all users of a machine? I'm wondering where I should put the family photos on the family computer without worrying so much about permissions. |
| 07:49.08 | fxiny | enouf: pass the vodka |
| 07:49.13 | bpun | yeah.. KDE is BLOAT |
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| 07:50.16 | slv | i like XFCE for a balance between lightweight and functional desktop |
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| 07:50.21 | cantido | cammoblammo: /usr/local/share maybe |
| 07:50.27 | bpun | cammoblammo, permissions you say? why, you have some devil wanting to nuke all the nude family photos ? |
| 07:50.49 | bpun | cammoblammo, there are picture servers, perhaps that.. |
| 07:50.58 | g00se | enouf: The case of the disappearing kernel package is still open: http://pastebin.com/f951d261 . update-dlocatedb made no difference |
| 07:51.55 | bpun | cammoblammo, xbmc and freevo are interesting projects, but i'm not sure about sharing albums.. i'll find out.. |
| 07:52.31 | cantido | or just stick them in <somewhere>/local |
| 07:52.37 | fxiny | i'm not productive with point and clicks wm , i use tiling . i save energy not decoding silly icons |
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| 07:53.16 | cammoblammo | cantido: Yeah, that's what I've done before. It seems more correct to have it somewhere in my /home partition though. |
| 07:53.30 | FailPowah | in debian/linux in general, which mail server is the easiest to manage to add/remove/maintain domains, users and accounts for smtp, pop3 and imap? (maybe preferably down right stupidly easy to maintain) |
| 07:54.08 | cantido | cammoblammo: um, you can always set the perms so the photos directory is open to everyone |
| 07:54.10 | cammoblammo | bpun: Sounds interesting, but the question's more general---I also want to put all my CD rips there and stuff. |
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| 07:54.28 | cantido | /usr/share was where shared stuff went AFAIK |
| 07:54.57 | jelly-home | FailPowah: pop3 and imap are handled by separate pop3 and imap software, usually separate from the smtp server |
| 07:55.05 | cammoblammo | cantido: True. I'd just like to keep them out of my own directory! |
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| 07:55.30 | cammoblammo | I suppose I could just create /home/share and leave the perms at 777 or something. |
| 07:56.12 | FailPowah | jelly-home: so there isnt one "all in one" package? |
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| 07:56.56 | sanmarcos | is there an apt package for vmware tools? |
| 07:57.13 | bpun | sanmarcos, why? |
| 07:57.25 | bpun | sanmarcos, you mean deb package.. |
| 07:57.38 | sanmarcos | because I am virtualizing debian in vmware fusion?, I was wondering if there was a package for the tools rather than compiling from source from VMWare |
| 07:57.56 | bpun | sanmarcos, u can download .deb from the vmware site i believe.. |
| 07:58.09 | bpun | sanmarcos, mac? |
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| 07:58.31 | sanmarcos | yes it doesnt matter |
| 07:58.34 | bpun | sanmarcos, vmware appliances are free |
| 07:58.42 | sanmarcos | you dont understand what vmware tools are |
| 07:58.55 | bpun | sanmarcos, there's probably of interest.. already made debian appliances , ready to be run.. |
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| 07:59.10 | bpun | sanmarcos, y.. it should be in the vmware install folder |
| 07:59.24 | bpun | sanmarcos, .iso (linux).. |
| 07:59.38 | sanmarcos | bpun: enough, thanks |
| 07:59.44 | bpun | sanmarcos, be clearer! |
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| 08:00.32 | bpun | sanmarcos, if its not there, there's apt-cache search vmware |
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| 08:01.39 | Terminus | bpun, fxiny, dazman: you rang? |
| 08:02.05 | dazman | Haha. |
| 08:02.07 | bpun | Terminus, u bastard.. why do you have the same name as my favorite font :) |
| 08:02.49 | Terminus | bpun: it's also my favorite font. =D |
| 08:03.06 | kamalnandan | experts, plz suggest some solution to my problem..i tried creating a debian package which seems to have been built successfully.. |
| 08:03.12 | kamalnandan | following is the output |
| 08:03.20 | fxiny | Terminus: heh |
| 08:03.22 | Arrowmaster | !paste |
| 08:03.22 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 08:03.27 | echosystm | hi guys, trying to get my wireless working |
| 08:03.29 | Terminus | i had this nick before it became my favorite font though. just used some random wikipedia topic to choose it. =D |
| 08:03.31 | echosystm | i have two options |
| 08:03.34 | kamalnandan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/243482/ |
| 08:03.38 | bpun | !wifi |
| 08:03.39 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>, <madwifi>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <ipw3945>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wmaster0>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 08:03.55 | echosystm | bpun, i already have the solution |
| 08:03.57 | echosystm | but there is 2 |
| 08:04.04 | echosystm | and i want to ask you guys which you think is better |
| 08:04.15 | bpun | echosystm, ok, so you have 2 wifis and now cant get a wife on your wifi |
| 08:04.22 | sanmarcos | whats that meta-package for basic dev tools (gcc, etc) ? |
| 08:04.25 | bpun | echosystm, jk |
| 08:04.30 | kamalnandan | when i do "dpkg -i <packagename>", then also it seems to have run successfully.. |
| 08:04.33 | echosystm | i can install the newer driver in the current kernel |
| 08:04.34 | bpun | echosystm, you have 2 what bitch? |
| 08:04.48 | echosystm | or i can "use a backport to Lenny of the 2.6.29 kernel in Sid which now works with AR242x" |
| 08:04.49 | kamalnandan | but i dont see the binary in the install directory.. |
| 08:04.58 | echosystm | can you explain what this second alternative means? |
| 08:04.59 | kamalnandan | what can be the problem..? |
| 08:06.27 | bpun | echosystm, a stable debian is not part of backport |
| 08:06.40 | echosystm | ok |
| 08:06.42 | bpun | echosystm, so u'd have to see which one works better |
| 08:06.52 | echosystm | so by doing that i am making my debian "non-stable" ? |
| 08:07.15 | Arrowmaster | sanmarcos: build-essensial |
| 08:07.44 | bpun | echosystm, you're already using like hybrid stable and non-stable packages already.. (sid is for testing and backports would likely give u well-- you can try out backports in this case) |
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| 08:07.51 | gihan | Hi all, im using vmware server on debian5 is there any way to open range of ports to guest os ? |
| 08:08.21 | bpun | gihan, in the settings, you can use the vnc features |
| 08:08.42 | Arrowmaster | sanmarcos: build-essential (i spelled it right that time) |
| 08:08.47 | sanmarcos | gihan: use bridge mode or I know ther emust be some settings file for NAT |
| 08:09.07 | sanmarcos | gihan: at least that is how it works in mac with Fusion, I usually just use bridge and forget about it |
| 08:09.13 | sanmarcos | gihan: also #vmware |
| 08:10.02 | bpun | gihan, y, u can use bridge in the network setting (vmware) -- also there's a vnc feature from the vmware settings box.. i can't say more, this isnt a vmware channel |
| 08:10.09 | gihan | #vmware seems to be dead channel. and i cant use bridge since my datacenter now allowed to use bridge :( |
| 08:10.12 | kamalnandan | ok...guys..bye for now..will look into this problem after a break.. |
| 08:10.31 | cantido | gihan: you can forward the ports with ip tables iirc |
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| 08:10.55 | stevierabie | hi |
| 08:11.01 | stevierabie | what is debian? |
| 08:11.04 | bpun | gihan, well if you can't control the firewall on the host then you're out of luck |
| 08:12.02 | gihan | i just can edit nano /etc/vmware/vmnet2/nat/nat.conf and forward single port |
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| 08:13.09 | gihan | but no idea how to forward port range like 30000 - 35000 |
| 08:13.17 | cantido | I wonder why people still use vmware when kvm and virtual box are so good :/ |
| 08:13.21 | stevierabie | http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Beach/108505862581?ref=ts |
| 08:14.12 | fxiny | damned spammer |
| 08:14.26 | stevierabie | http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Beach/108505862581?ref=ts |
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| 08:14.38 | stevierabie | http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Beach/108505862581?ref=ts |
| 08:14.38 | stevierabie | http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Beach/108505862581?ref=ts |
| 08:14.39 | stevierabie | http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Beach/108505862581?ref=ts |
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| 08:14.45 | Esine | cantido: Obviously you have never tried VMWare's products. |
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| 08:14.54 | stevierabie | #flood |
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| 08:15.00 | cydork | !ops stevierabie is spamming again |
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| 08:15.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: cydork complains about: stevierabie is spamming again |
| 08:15.01 | liable | !ops wake up and ban stevierabie already |
| 08:15.02 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: liable complains about: wake up and ban stevierabie already |
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| 08:16.43 | strog_ | how do i tell debian to automatically load a module at startup? |
| 08:16.46 | gihan | cantido: any example of port forward using iptables? |
| 08:16.55 | strog_ | i always use modprobe |
| 08:17.22 | cobra-the-joker | Hey there guys ....how can i install the broadcom wireless card b43 ? |
| 08:19.30 | cydork | !tell cobra-the-joker -about b43 |
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| 08:20.55 | bpun | strog_, have you tried the modprobe command? |
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| 08:21.53 | cobra-the-joker | cydork , but i dont have internet connection in debian ...just wireless |
| 08:23.00 | strog_ | bpun: yes i did |
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| 08:23.27 | strog_ | bpun: i compiled the driver for my minipci wlan card and restarted the system |
| 08:23.42 | strog_ | iwconfig doesnt list a wireless device to me |
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| 08:29.56 | strog_ | bpun: iwconfig doesnt list a wireless device to me |
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| 08:31.36 | grazymax | hi all |
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| 08:31.58 | Esine | hi grazymax |
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| 08:32.08 | grazymax | hi Esine |
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| 08:33.57 | cydork | cobra-the-joker, you just need the firmware and that fwcutter, you can get it from anywhere.. |
| 08:34.14 | M06w | so somebody tell me |
| 08:34.19 | cobra-the-joker | ok |
| 08:34.20 | M06w | does samba actually work |
| 08:34.26 | M06w | or is it a joke against newbies |
| 08:34.36 | Esine | depends what you want to do, M06w |
| 08:34.46 | Esine | use it as a client or a server? |
| 08:34.51 | M06w | server |
| 08:35.23 | Esine | again, depends on what features you need. If you need simple file sharing yes, that works without problems. But if you want to use it as an AD replacement.. don't tell the #samba guys but I don't think it's ready for that yet. |
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| 08:35.45 | sanmarcos | does a debootstrap sid fail for anyone else? on apt-utils? |
| 08:35.51 | g00se | strog_: ifconfig -a |
| 08:36.34 | Esine | sanmarcos: yeah, I'm running sid and can't install apt-utils |
| 08:36.43 | Esine | missing dependency |
| 08:37.06 | sanmarcos | Esine: :-( that sucks |
| 08:37.21 | sanmarcos | i am trying to debootstrap to build a deb package for upstream sid |
| 08:37.33 | sanmarcos | Esine: how can I know when it will be fixed? |
| 08:38.10 | g00se | sanmarcos: aptitude why-not apt-utils |
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| 08:38.21 | nomatter001 | hi |
| 08:38.33 | Esine | I don't know :-( But maybe you could debootstrap testing and dist-upgrade to sid? |
| 08:38.46 | sanmarcos | Esine: wont it fail again on apt-utils? |
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| 08:39.06 | Esine | Maybe you can install the testing package of apt-utils |
| 08:39.14 | Esine | I'm not sure |
| 08:39.19 | nomatter001 | i'm currently using lenny and would like to know if its possible to somehow get mplayer with support for vdpau on nvidia graphics cards |
| 08:39.40 | sanmarcos | nomatter001: good luck |
| 08:39.44 | nomatter001 | i think i would need that package: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nvidia-libvdpau |
| 08:39.45 | Esine | nomatter001: one option is to compile it yourself |
| 08:39.46 | nomatter001 | is that right |
| 08:40.05 | nomatter001 | Esine: is there anywhere a guide for that? |
| 08:40.13 | nomatter001 | so that i know what i have to complie? |
| 08:40.31 | Esine | I mean mplayer |
| 08:40.37 | sanmarcos | nomatter001: no, usually if you want to use more advanced/newer stuff you wouldn't use Lenny/stable which is a couple of years behind at least |
| 08:40.48 | Esine | it should be pretty straightforward.. if you know what you're doing :) |
| 08:41.23 | nomatter001 | sanmarcos: i was using gentoo before and now thought of using debian (cause compiletime was too long) |
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| 08:41.37 | nomatter001 | and everytime i tried to dist-upgrade to sid i fucked the whole system |
| 08:42.04 | sanmarcos | yes that is the thing with debian on the desktop, you are either so bleeding edge the whoel system is fucked every week or you are so stable that the system is years old |
| 08:42.19 | sanmarcos | stable is great for servers though! |
| 08:42.29 | Arrowmaster | or you can use testing |
| 08:42.34 | nomatter001 | yes but i'm not running a server |
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| 08:43.01 | nomatter001 | Arrowmaster: as far as i can see there is no vdpau on testing |
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| 08:43.43 | Arrowmaster | true, but you can use a testing/sid mix where you only pull in packages you want from sid |
| 08:43.44 | sanmarcos | nomatter001: that is the reason I use OS X on my desktop, Quicktime does hardware acceleration out of the box |
| 08:44.33 | nomatter001 | not really an option for me |
| 08:44.39 | sanmarcos | nomatter001: I would recommend, switch to testing, compile your own bleeding edge nvidia drivers and mplayer, and it should work |
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| 08:44.53 | nomatter001 | i'll think about it |
| 08:44.56 | sanmarcos | nomatter001: it is pretty straight forward if you know what you are doing |
| 08:45.01 | nomatter001 | or moving back to gentoo |
| 08:45.14 | sanmarcos | or try Ubuntu if you want something with more updates more frequently |
| 08:45.26 | nomatter001 | would be also possible |
| 08:45.26 | Arrowmaster | heh |
| 08:45.29 | Esine | indeed nomatter001, you could try Ubuntu. |
| 08:45.37 | Arrowmaster | ubuntu is always more out of date than debian testing |
| 08:45.46 | sanmarcos | nomatter001: also, i am sure on the ubuntu forums there are tutorials on getting that nvpau or whatever working |
| 08:46.08 | sanmarcos | Arrowmaster: yes but its more user-friendly, it ships with all the bells-and-whistles out of the box |
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| 08:47.39 | sanmarcos | well bootstraping squeeze worked, but not sid |
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| 08:54.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | more user friendly? depends who the user is |
| 08:54.27 | sanmarcos | most users |
| 08:55.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | ah yes, the all encompasing 'my opinion'. |
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| 08:55.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | goes back to his recompiling |
| 08:55.38 | sanmarcos | Kamping_Kaiser: dont escape through the roof kaiser |
| 08:56.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | sanmarcos bug i'm james bond! |
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| 09:01.07 | s4br3 | Hi, yesterday I tried to install Debian, using Grub2. As I had repeated failures I went to bed, an had planned to continue today. However, today the BIOS beeps in a pattern not found in the manual, and repeats in a reboot cycle. It won't even load the bios, won't boot from a usb, and does not show any "post" text. Clearing CMOS did not help. Anything else I can try? |
| 09:01.46 | sanmarcos | !grub2 |
| 09:01.46 | dpkg | GNU GRUB version 2 is the successor to GRUB Legacy (i.e. GRUB version 0.9x). In development, not recommended for production systems, little documentation at present. Packaged as grub-pc (PC/BIOS version) and grub-ieee1275 (OpenFirmware version). http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-2.en.html. Command list comparison: http://grub.enbug.org/CommandList . See also http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition #grub on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 09:03.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | grub-ieee1275? what an easy to remember package name :| |
| 09:03.33 | sanmarcos | hahaha |
| 09:04.00 | s4br3 | sanmarcos, Thanks. Still, I wonder why I first get the message that grub2 is experimental and that grub is considered deprecated... |
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| 09:04.43 | sanmarcos | s4br3: why do you need grub2? |
| 09:05.05 | Tiffon | nas |
| 09:05.21 | sanmarcos | nas? |
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| 09:05.33 | s4br3 | sanmarcos, well, like I said when I installed grub it said it was deprecated |
| 09:05.46 | sanmarcos | its what ships on all distros right? grub 1? |
| 09:06.00 | s4br3 | sanmarcos, yes I guess so |
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| 09:07.46 | Osric | can I just rm the folders in /usr/share/locale that I'm never going to need? |
| 09:07.55 | sanmarcos | s4br3: another case of idiotic developers releasing something that is not ready and probably never will be to the public |
| 09:08.02 | s4br3 | Osric, try localepurge first |
| 09:08.10 | Osric | thanks |
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| 09:09.02 | s4br3 | sanmarcos, I more concerned that they have these to contradictory messages |
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| 09:09.27 | s4br3 | Osric, I managed to get rid of 600MB unneeded locales |
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| 09:09.44 | sanmarcos | s4br3: i love EI |
| 09:09.45 | sanmarcos | EFI |
| 09:10.10 | s4br3 | sanmarcos, EFI? |
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| 09:10.17 | sanmarcos | !efi |
| 09:10.36 | s4br3 | no efi? |
| 09:10.37 | sanmarcos | s4br3: bios replacement |
| 09:10.45 | s4br3 | ok |
| 09:10.45 | sanmarcos | s4br3: what macs, and some PC's use |
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| 09:10.55 | sanmarcos | s4br3: try reflashing your bios from windows |
| 09:11.13 | s4br3 | I cannot even see the grub choice... |
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| 09:11.16 | Osric | anyone got any other suggestions on what to do with a fresh install to remove cruft? |
| 09:11.23 | sanmarcos | remove the baterr? |
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| 09:12.29 | superdump | can anyone tell me an easy way to remove all ia32 stuff that has been installed due to the new multiarch stuff in unstable as i've decided i no longer want it |
| 09:12.30 | markun | I have a little support question. I'm using debian unstable, and when I try to upgrade 'apt' to 0.7.22 I get unmet dependencies for aptitude and synaptice because they depend on "libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6-4.7 which is a virtual package." |
| 09:12.31 | superdump | ? |
| 09:12.52 | sanmarcos | markun: broken... |
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| 09:13.02 | markun | sanmarcos: ah, ok |
| 09:13.24 | markun | sanmarcos: broken for all users or something on my system? |
| 09:13.27 | superdump | (i'm running 64-bit debian unstable and wanted acroread but i think i'd rather use it in a more contained way - i.e. chroot or so) |
| 09:13.37 | sanmarcos | markun: all |
| 09:13.54 | markun | thanks |
| 09:14.31 | markun | sanmarcos: is there a better place to find out these things than this channel? |
| 09:14.39 | s4br3 | sanmarcos, I think grub2 is the default today for many distros |
| 09:14.48 | sanmarcos | is it? |
| 09:14.53 | superdump | it's becoming so |
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| 09:15.21 | superdump | i think in debian the 'old' grub package has been renamed to grub-legacy |
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| 09:15.39 | g00se | !tell superdump why aptitude |
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| 09:16.14 | markun | g00se: is the bot down? |
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| 09:16.56 | g00se | markun: i didn't think so ... |
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| 09:17.00 | superdump | seems so as i didn't receive any messages |
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| 09:17.10 | s4br3 | !grub |
| 09:17.11 | dpkg | [grub] Grand Unified Bootloader. It's an extremely powerful boot loader which can boot many OSes, understands many filesystems (including <reiserfs> and <XFS> since 0.97), but see http://bugs.debian.org/grub . For an install guide, see http://linuxjournal.com/4622, or "aptitude install grub grub-doc". To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. To migrate from LILO, ask about <lilo->grub>. See also <grub errors>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub |
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| 09:17.19 | superdump | unless the command was not formulated properly |
| 09:17.23 | g00se | !why aptitude |
| 09:17.24 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
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| 09:19.11 | sanmarcos | apt can do that too |
| 09:19.27 | sanmarcos | apt-get install --purge pacakge1 package2 |
| 09:19.35 | sanmarcos | package2- sorry (see the - at the end) |
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| 09:20.08 | superdump | i'll give it a go in a bit |
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| 09:23.51 | g00se | The point is that aptitude will know *which* ia32 stuff was brought in and get rid of it. You can't do this after the fact: it would need to have been *installed* by aptitude |
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| 09:41.28 | sanmarcos | W: BAD signature from "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" |
| 09:41.36 | sanmarcos | I cant do pbuilder create, I Get that, any ideas? |
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| 09:43.49 | s4br3 | All, my bios is working again. It didn't work with 4x2GB or 1x2GB, but worked fin with 1x1GB. |
| 09:44.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | !key |
| 09:44.16 | dpkg | from memory, key is Install the latest debian-archive-keyring package to get the latest gpg key used to sign the Debian archive |
| 09:44.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | sanmarcos: is that relevant to you ^^? |
| 09:44.48 | sanmarcos | i have the latest |
| 09:47.13 | dutchfish | sanmarcos, and you have the latest debian-keyring |
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| 09:47.46 | sanmarcos | yes I have the latest |
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| 09:47.55 | sanmarcos | its weird because it fails with --distribution sid, but not with squeeze |
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| 09:48.04 | bobrock | Hey there folks! Help me find out where is qingy's binary files are placed. Please. =) |
| 09:49.13 | sanmarcos | dpkg -L quingy bobrock |
| 09:49.13 | dpkg | No packages found matching quingy bobrock |
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| 09:50.41 | bobrock | sanmarcos: not quingy. qingy |
| 09:51.11 | bobrock | dpgk -L qingy bobrock |
| 09:51.44 | dutchfish | !info qingy |
| 09:51.52 | sanmarcos | yeah dpkg -L should show all files |
| 09:52.16 | bobrock | sanmarcos: tnx yes it work |
| 09:52.26 | bobrock | !info qingy |
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| 09:53.05 | dutchfish | bobrock, i think dpkg is not in sync yes for that package |
| 09:53.12 | dutchfish | s/yes/yet |
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| 09:54.26 | dutchfish | qingy squeeze Versie: 0.9.7-1+b1 |
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| 09:55.03 | bobrock | dutchfish, sanmarcos: thanks bros i found /usr/sbin/qingy, it'd work after reboot, bye |
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| 10:11.13 | sanmarcos | which package provides update-alternatives? |
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| 10:14.10 | Tuomas | sanmarcos: you can find it out with dpkg-query -S filename |
| 10:14.33 | Tuomas | sanmarcos: it seems to be dpkg |
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| 10:19.00 | sanmarcos | is there something in unstable that is not broken? |
| 10:19.10 | sanmarcos | i am serioulsy reconsidering making a package for debian now |
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| 10:29.41 | tdn_ | How do I set the output of a cron job to be send to a different e-mail-address? |
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| 10:34.37 | g00se | tdn_: Try /usr/local/bin/script &> /dev/null in cron and send the mail in 'script' |
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| 10:36.32 | cantido | tdn: MAILTO |
| 10:37.06 | tdn | g00se, but then I am just implementing an already existing functionality of cron myself. I would like exactly what cron does. Mail me output if there is any. I just want it to go to another user. |
| 10:37.10 | tdn | cantido, thanks! |
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| 10:40.31 | osfd | Hi guys. I get this message with amarok "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers." is there to restart the sound or whatever manage the sound please (Lenny -- KDE) |
| 10:41.03 | cantido | osfd: It's probably locked by something else.. do you get sound in KDE or other apps? |
| 10:41.21 | osfd | cantido: let me check this out |
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| 10:43.01 | cantido | osfd: Amarok/xine also has a bug where it locks the device and doesn't unlock it.. thus stopping itself from using it. But in this case it's probably that pulseaudio or something is locking it |
| 10:43.52 | osfd | cantido: actually I launched smplayer and it stopped working there |
| 10:45.08 | g00se | tdn_: MAILTO would normally be applied then to *every* job |
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| 10:48.18 | cantido | http://serverfault.com/questions/33504/override-mailto-for-a-single-crontab-entry -- you can change MAILTO per job |
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| 10:48.57 | klbate | In the current Evolution package, is there a way to make it hide all folders that do not contain unread messages? |
| 10:49.04 | carl_ | im trying to use the ia32-apt-get to install the 32 bit libcv1 and it keeps saying that "libcv1 is already the newest version", any ideas. |
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| 10:50.52 | osfd | so yes |
| 10:51.04 | osfd | is there a way to "reboot" sound server ? |
| 10:51.16 | osfd | unlock the process...whatsoever |
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| 10:51.54 | lvh | Hey. In all 3D SDL games (mostly shooters), my mouse keeps warping (always the same position, causing my character to alwasy be pointed in the same direction). How do you debug something like that? |
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| 10:54.13 | g00se | osfd: Which 'sound server'? |
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| 10:55.24 | cantido | osfd: use lsof or something to see what processes have /dev/snd opened maybe |
| 10:55.27 | osfd | g00se: I don't know, might have use the wrong expression, dunno exactly what I'm talking about....just wanna have sound back |
| 10:56.05 | mrtn1232 | am I right that cdrecord is kind of low-level ultimate tool for creating CD/DVD/BD disks? I mean is there any other low-level CD/DVD/BD recording tool, which can do something that cdrecord can't? |
| 10:56.05 | g00se | osfd: Are you using alsa? |
| 10:56.08 | cantido | g00se: I think he's got a process that's locked the alsa device, by sound server he probably means alsa |
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| 10:56.31 | osfd | g00se: I think so |
| 10:56.37 | funky | hello people |
| 10:56.38 | g00se | osfd: If it *is* alsa, try running alsaconf |
| 10:56.49 | carl_ | cdrecord cant burn ps games |
| 10:56.53 | carl_ | but i think thats about it |
| 10:57.07 | cantido | sector size? |
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| 10:57.21 | funky | is there any way to solve all the ia32 stuff in amd64 ? |
| 10:57.34 | mrtn1232 | carl_: you mean make images of PlayStation games? What do you use for that? |
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| 10:58.15 | cantido | mrtn1232: I think cdrecord (called wodim in debian iirc) is the best tool for most jobs.. |
| 10:58.29 | osfd | g00se: did the trick, sound is back...but still, that does not really make sens |
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| 10:59.00 | cantido | it killed the process that was holding a lock.. |
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| 11:01.10 | g00se | osfd: If what cantido said is correct, and it happens again, find the misbehaving process: sudo lsof | grep /dev/snd |
| 11:01.43 | osfd | g00se: ok, I'll try that |
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| 11:03.42 | cantido | /etc/init.d/alsa-base restart kills all processes that are holding the device open too I think |
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| 11:12.15 | mrtn1232 | when I do "aptitude search cdrecord" I get: <<< |
| 11:12.15 | mrtn1232 | v cdrecord - |
| 11:12.15 | mrtn1232 | root@T42:~# |
| 11:12.17 | mrtn1232 | >>> Whad does this "v" flag mean? |
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| 11:12.21 | Frold | Im not sure if this is the forum - I have debian webserver and for somereasone my server doesnt send out mails any more. PHP is set to use sendmail. And ATM my mail queue in my postfix mail server is 20 unsent emails. : |
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| 11:15.13 | mrtn1232 | what is a virtual package("v" letter in front of found package name) status in aptitude search? |
| 11:15.20 | niko | mrtn1232: v is virtual i think |
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| 11:15.54 | niko | a symbolic link to a specific version of the package |
| 11:15.56 | mrtn1232 | niko: yes, but what is a virtual package? Any examples? |
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| 11:16.59 | niko | http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html mrtn1232 |
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| 11:17.17 | cydork | !virtual package |
| 11:17.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, virtual package is a package that doesn't really exist but represents a function which several real packages fulfill, which appears in the Provides control file field of another package. The effect is as if the package(s) which provide a particular virtual package name had been listed by name everywhere the virtual package name appears. To find which package(s) provide a foo virtual package, use $ apt-cache showpkg foo; |
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| 11:20.49 | ajavid | fxiny, yo |
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| 11:21.51 | smarf | hey guys, I have problem installing vmware on Lenny. I get "unable to build vmmon module". I've set $CC to gcc-4.1. Any ideas? |
| 11:21.52 | fxiny | ajavid: read it ? yes ? ;) |
| 11:22.37 | cydork | fxiny, YO! |
| 11:22.44 | fxiny | cydork: hey ! |
| 11:23.05 | ajavid | fxiny, yes |
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| 11:23.09 | ajavid | fxiny, don't get it |
| 11:23.26 | fxiny | cydork: come back ! |
| 11:23.37 | cydork | yes i am here :) |
| 11:24.05 | ajavid | oh /. is slash dot website |
| 11:24.09 | ajavid | seriously |
| 11:24.18 | ajavid | no I don't read moronic websites |
| 11:25.06 | fxiny | ajavid: you don't get it ? strange , browse to /. and search for "bootkit" |
| 11:25.28 | ajavid | ok |
| 11:25.31 | ajavid | lter |
| 11:25.32 | fxiny | cydork: here here ? under the banana trees ? |
| 11:25.33 | ajavid | I just woke up |
| 11:25.58 | cydork | fxiny, oh you mean there.. no can do mate. |
| 11:26.42 | fxiny | cydork: :) |
| 11:27.39 | fxiny | ajavid: moronic sites ? /. is talking about some bookit called "stoned" , where's the moron ? :P |
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| 11:28.09 | fxiny | which is bypassing truecrypt in winblows |
| 11:28.16 | ajavid | what does that have to do with me |
| 11:28.36 | fxiny | tought you knew it |
| 11:28.42 | ajavid | nope |
| 11:28.50 | ajavid | I just heard of it from you |
| 11:28.52 | ajavid | just now :) |
| 11:29.18 | ajavid | so |
| 11:29.18 | fxiny | amazing |
| 11:29.24 | ajavid | what is a bootkit |
| 11:29.26 | lvh_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:29.31 | ajavid | is it like a rootkit |
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| 11:29.54 | lvh_ | ajavid: A bootkit is a fancy way of saying: "hey if you give me physical access to a computer I can compromise it" |
| 11:30.05 | ajavid | i see |
| 11:30.51 | fxiny | cydork: so you are not coming back ? that's bad , it means you are working hard :) |
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| 11:31.01 | ajavid | fxiny, where are you from? |
| 11:31.50 | fxiny | ajavid: planet clair |
| 11:32.15 | ajavid | i see |
| 11:32.28 | ajavid | fxiny, very nice country you are from |
| 11:32.37 | ajavid | fxiny, I always wanted to go there |
| 11:32.49 | fxiny | ajavid: i dont feel i belong to this place i live in |
| 11:33.00 | ajavid | fxiny, are you not from there originally" |
| 11:33.03 | ajavid | ? |
| 11:34.12 | fxiny | yes i am |
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| 11:38.39 | cirzgamanti | hi, i'm trying to convert 30+ jpg -> pdf, "convert *jpg out.pdf" works, but the output is lower image quality. what's the easiest way to produce a pdf without losing quality? |
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| 11:48.15 | Padhu_1 | Cirzgamanti: create odp using image and then pdf |
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| 11:53.47 | cirzgamanti | Padhu: is there a way to automatically do this? i'm trying ooimpress, but it lets me insert only an image at a time. |
| 11:54.11 | cirzgamanti | i tried gscan2pdf, but it downcompresses the images too. |
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| 11:58.07 | Padhu | cirzgamanti: It's too difficult to find it. but in windows, it may easy. search wine hq |
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| 11:58.30 | Padhu | for applications |
| 11:59.30 | cahoot | cirzgamanti: tried setting quality level for convert? |
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| 12:09.13 | cirzgamanti | cahoot: in gscan2pdf? yes, somehow it seems it already kills the quality when importing |
| 12:09.43 | cirzgamanti | oh, for convert. no, frankly i was afraid of its option universe :) |
| 12:09.52 | cahoot | cirzgamanti: no I meant convert *jpg -quality 100 output.pdf |
| 12:10.18 | Polarina | Don't use JPEGs. :( |
| 12:10.30 | Polarina | Use PNGs. |
| 12:10.30 | cahoot | well if that's what he's got |
| 12:10.33 | cirzgamanti | well i have jpegs as the source |
| 12:10.45 | cirzgamanti | png output is 4x as huge |
| 12:10.51 | Polarina | But lossless! |
| 12:11.10 | Polarina | You can run PNGs through optipng to reduce filesize. |
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| 12:11.53 | cahoot | Polarina: is png optimal for photo? |
| 12:12.12 | Polarina | cahoot: Quality wise? Yes. |
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| 12:21.16 | g00se | cirzgamanti: If you post one somewhere i'll have a go. Can't you bring them in directly to impress btw? |
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| 12:44.16 | Bad_Religion | anyone have tips for upgrading etch to lenny that I might not find in a typical upgrade? |
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| 12:44.18 | Bad_Religion | i have a full backup and will be taking db dumps immediately after service shutdown |
| 12:44.45 | g00se | Bad_Religion: You should be fine then |
| 12:44.46 | Bad_Religion | i have also created a hardware listing of devices and all the raid/lvm settings |
| 12:44.57 | jelly-home | Bad_Religion: if you have openldap, include a slapcat in those dumps |
| 12:45.19 | nsadmin | Bad_Religion: db? with which raid? |
| 12:45.21 | fxiny | don't forget to upgrade to rsyslog |
| 12:45.39 | Bad_Religion | db=database :) |
| 12:45.42 | Bad_Religion | sorry |
| 12:45.49 | Bad_Religion | mysql database |
| 12:45.52 | nsadmin | yes understood |
| 12:45.57 | nsadmin | which raid? |
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| 12:45.59 | Bad_Religion | raid is mdadm |
| 12:46.08 | nsadmin | which level? |
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| 12:46.14 | Bad_Religion | im mostly concnered with raid devices being renamed |
| 12:46.25 | Bad_Religion | 2 disks in raid 1 and lvm |
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| 12:47.09 | Bad_Religion | wait that wouldn't make much sense I think its 4 disks in 2 raid1 arrays then LVM |
| 12:47.11 | jelly-home | Bad_Religion: if you have an up-to-date mdadm.conf with array definitions, things _should_ be fine |
| 12:47.25 | nsadmin | ahh... just so you know, raid5 doesn't do random-access very well, and databases like random access |
| 12:47.45 | Bad_Religion | oo i see, thanks for that info |
| 12:48.04 | jelly-home | Bad_Religion: /usr/share/mdadm/mkconf |
| 12:48.16 | g00se | fxiny: I've a fresh install of lenny, yet locate rsyslog returns nothing ... |
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| 12:49.21 | fxiny | g00se: i don't have locate :) apt-cache policy rsyslog ? |
| 12:49.30 | Bad_Religion | jelly-home: I have done a successful reboot with current mdadm and latest etch updates so I would assume current mdadm.conf is safe? |
| 12:50.48 | nsadmin | since you booted with it |
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| 12:53.29 | Bad_Religion | during release upgrades is not the time for my wireless keyboard to get funky |
| 12:54.11 | fxiny | g00se: or : #type rsyslogd |
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| 12:54.59 | g00se | From http://wiki.debian.org/Rsyslog : "Starting with Lenny, Debian will use rsyslog instead of sysklogd by default" |
| 12:55.24 | g00se | wonder why it's not installed with my fresh lenny |
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| 12:56.25 | valdyn | g00se: that wiki is wrong it seems |
| 12:56.52 | rozie | wiki's right |
| 12:57.00 | rozie | "by default" |
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| 12:57.46 | rozie | but in Etch there's syslog installed |
| 12:57.58 | g00se | rozie: My install was nothing other than defailt afaicr ... |
| 12:58.02 | rozie | and it can be used in Lenny |
| 12:58.08 | valdyn | g00se: read the #2 |
| 12:58.15 | rozie | so, during upgrade, syslog package is not changed |
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| 12:58.28 | fxiny | exactly |
| 12:58.48 | rozie | if you want rsyslog just apt-get install it |
| 12:58.59 | g00se | valdyn: Thanks. wiki's wrong |
| 12:59.05 | rozie | syslog (and klogd) will be removed |
| 12:59.49 | rozie | no, wiki's right |
| 13:00.21 | rozie | it'd be rsyslog installed if there was no other syslog package present |
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| 13:00.56 | rozie | consider you are using gnome for desktop |
| 13:01.05 | Bad_Religion | shouldn't I be concerned if libc6 has unmet dependencies and aptitude is not going to install/upgrade it (but will upgrade libc6-dev) |
| 13:01.08 | rozie | and in 6.0 kde would be default |
| 13:01.20 | g00se | rozie: the only thing approaching syslog installed for me was the Windows event log |
| 13:01.23 | rozie | would you like to have your gnome silently replaced? |
| 13:01.36 | valdyn | rozie: he's not talking about an upgrade? |
| 13:01.43 | fxiny | i have a fluxbox only lenny with rsyslog installed by default |
| 13:01.52 | valdyn | ah |
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| 13:02.45 | valdyn | my lenny never had rsyslog installed |
| 13:03.20 | valdyn | so maybe it comes with no logging daemon at all by default |
| 13:03.31 | fxiny | qyestion : are gnome or kde are pulling syslog ? |
| 13:03.53 | fxiny | it seems strange |
| 13:04.05 | rozie | fxiny: no. it's just an example |
| 13:04.30 | fxiny | rozie: so why g00se is not on rsyslog ? |
| 13:04.54 | rozie | that default doesn't mean "replace everything other what fullfils dependency requirements" |
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| 13:05.10 | rozie | fxiny: cause he had syslog installed? |
| 13:05.17 | rozie | and there is syslog in Lenny? |
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| 13:05.23 | fxiny | rozie: he said fresh install |
| 13:05.26 | fxiny | g00se: ? |
| 13:05.39 | g00se | ...as a daisy |
| 13:05.56 | client3424 | Is there a way to disable dhcp/bootp in the kernel? |
| 13:06.08 | rozie | oh. fresh |
| 13:06.26 | rozie | g00se: apt-cache policy rsyslog, pls |
| 13:06.35 | g00se | One mo |
| 13:07.12 | rozie | and what installer did you use? |
| 13:07.43 | g00se | http://pastebin.com/f448c86a2 |
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| 13:09.00 | rozie | aptitude -s install -t lenny-backports rsyslog |
| 13:09.08 | rozie | what's this lenny-backports? |
| 13:09.15 | fxiny | a fresh install with bpo packages ? why uing bpo rsylsog ? |
| 13:09.20 | fxiny | using* |
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| 13:09.39 | rozie | "fresh install" ;> |
| 13:09.43 | fxiny | it seems you upgraded to lenny |
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| 13:10.15 | g00se | No. I added backports later. What makes you think i upgraded? |
| 13:10.32 | rozie | backports |
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| 13:12.40 | g00se | Erm.. installed lenny then added backports to sources later. I don't get what the implication is ... I didn't say i've stayed with a default install... |
| 13:12.50 | fxiny | ok |
| 13:13.05 | rozie | g00se: what installer did you use? |
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| 13:15.34 | g00se | rozie: There *could* be an issue there, although i wouldn't have thought so, as i used a disk from a magazine to install afaicr |
| 13:16.44 | rozie | well. it could be not official installer |
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| 13:17.04 | rozie | IIRC after debootstrap I had rsyslog installed |
| 13:17.22 | rozie | (that's not official installer) |
| 13:17.36 | rozie | after upgrade I'm sure I had syslog running |
| 13:17.39 | shadow` | debian sucks with KVM |
| 13:18.23 | fxiny | g00se: anyway, lenny upgrades to rsyslog like a charm , i went for the official rsyslog |
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| 13:19.42 | shadow` | not even getting passed install |
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| 13:20.36 | Padhu | How can i check the CPU temperature |
| 13:20.50 | mooneye | you cant |
| 13:20.54 | mooneye | i think |
| 13:20.59 | Padhu | indebian lenny |
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| 13:21.01 | valdyn | Padhu: depends on your cpu |
| 13:21.02 | dondelelcaro | Padhu: install lmsensors and use sensors |
| 13:21.20 | Padhu | lmsensors |
| 13:21.26 | dondelelcaro | assuming your mainboard isn't garbage. |
| 13:21.35 | valdyn | lm-sensors |
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| 13:22.54 | tawan | why would a LUA script that works on other distros not work on Squeeze? :/ |
| 13:22.58 | Padhu | ASUS Mother board P5B-MX |
| 13:23.09 | Padhu | Intel core 2 DUO |
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| 13:28.51 | g00se | Padhu: acpi -t |
| 13:29.11 | Padhu | not worked |
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| 13:32.34 | Tagor | I have 2 hdds in a software raid with debian. But always when data-checking (which is done by a cron or manually) the raid the server just suddenly shuts down when it is at 99,5% of the last array (md6 - the /home directory) |
| 13:32.45 | Tagor | Messages and syslog don't show anything |
| 13:32.49 | kamalnandan | Hi..am new to packaging...why is it so that when i do "debuild -us -uc", the pkg also gets installed..? |
| 13:33.00 | Tagor | Does anyone know what could be wrong? |
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| 13:33.41 | kamalnandan | I just want to build the package and not install it..i want it to be installed only when i do "dpkg -i <packagename>" |
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| 13:39.35 | kamalnandan | experts..any idea?? |
| 13:40.53 | project2501a | this is the post-modern era, there are no experts |
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| 13:42.13 | wald0 | are the nvidia privative drivers not more maintained ? |
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| 13:45.20 | knandan | hi |
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| 13:46.25 | kamalnandan | sorry...had got disconnected.. |
| 13:46.37 | kamalnandan | however, any idea about my problem? |
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| 13:48.32 | kamalnandan | while doing "debuild -us -uc", i just want the *.deb file to be created and not to be installed.. |
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| 13:49.01 | kamalnandan | it must be installed only when i do "dpkg -i <*.deb>" |
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| 13:51.52 | Schuenemann | I'd like to know how can I run zsnes in debian 64bit. Thanks |
| 13:51.57 | kamalnandan | folks..any idea about this? |
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| 14:03.27 | iluminator101 | Hi I get this tor dependency error, have not figured out how to solve it....http://debian.pastebin.com/d225b0bb1 |
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| 14:05.30 | Pnux | hey, just checking.. is something wrong with the testing repos? <There are 2 newly obsolete packages: libcolamd-3.2.0, openoffice.org-kde> |
| 14:06.22 | Bad_Religion | is it normal for aptitude full-upgrade to hang on 99% [Working] for a long time? I'm used to apt-get ( I think aptitude as well) showing more verbose output on what is happening? |
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| 14:16.11 | wald0 | what happened to the nvidia drivers in debian ? i don't want to use the very ugly .run file :S |
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| 14:17.17 | KeiKurono | someone has issues with amule adunanza.deb ? |
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| 14:18.40 | foo-nix | I want to setup wireless interwebs using wpa_supplicant, such that I do not need to start an X session to get internet (and it's simpler then Networkmanager in a console). I have setup a wpa_supplicant.conf, like I am used to do. Now the http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant howto says I need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and configure everything there. This file seems to have a complete different syntac then wpa_+supplcaint.con |
| 14:18.40 | foo-nix | f,. howe can I use this? I.e. how can it support the complete syntax of default wpa_supplicant? |
| 14:19.06 | foo-nix | and where is this syntax documented? |
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| 14:19.32 | kamalnandan | guys...can someone help me with my query? |
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| 14:19.51 | kamalnandan | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.51 | JuanJOBC | Hi all |
| 14:20.17 | kamalnandan | i want it to be installed only when i do "dpkg -i <*.deb>" |
| 14:21.00 | lizone | there is something I don't understand in regard to a socks server; I don't have a socks server installed on my machine yet my sshd uses it -- how come? |
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| 14:21.19 | JuanJOBC | I want to isntall debian in a XEON cuad Core class server computer to act principaly as a Web server. What file do you recomendme guys to download? I was thinking in a smal CD and then continue installing through network, but I don't knwo if I have to go with i386 or ia64, thanks |
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| 14:24.02 | racecar56 | i see "WARNING: Unable to activate console: No such device or address" in my dmesg, is that something i need to fix? |
| 14:24.29 | JuanJOBC | Will "debian-502-ia64-CD-1.iso " be enough to install and start up Debian in a XEON cuad core machine? thanks |
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| 14:24.38 | racecar56 | wait it isn't my dmesg O_o |
| 14:24.49 | JuanJOBC | or do I need to download more images? |
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| 14:25.19 | _coredump_ | JuanJOBC, you need amd64 image, netinstall is a pretty good choice, if you have internet connection |
| 14:25.29 | _coredump_ | ia64 is for intel itanium only |
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| 14:25.50 | JuanJOBC | _coredump_, ok, so XEON is compatible with Amd64, |
| 14:26.10 | _coredump_ | yes its x86_64 |
| 14:26.12 | JuanJOBC | _coredump_, I was htinking to downoload the first image and then add mre things through network if needed |
| 14:26.52 | JuanJOBC | _coredump_, I started to download "debian-502-amd64-CD-1.iso" |
| 14:27.19 | JuanJOBC | I am sorry to ask this questions, this will be the first time that I install Debian, 4 years so far with Ubuntu so I decided to move on |
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| 14:27.51 | racecar56 | it's been about 1 year and ubuntu with me but i first tried debian back in september 2008, on a virtual machine, which that would be etch |
| 14:28.06 | racecar56 | then in feb 2009 i tried it on a real comp |
| 14:28.26 | JuanJOBC | racecar56, and did you find what you were expecting? |
| 14:28.33 | racecar56 | but i went back to ubuntu, but a few weeks ago i tried it again and i stayed |
| 14:28.45 | racecar56 | JuanJOBC: ubuntu == bloat |
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| 14:28.56 | racecar56 | JuanJOBC: that's what i say at least |
| 14:29.04 | racecar56 | JuanJOBC: i like debian better :D |
| 14:29.10 | JuanJOBC | I noticed that Debian doens't distinguish between the desktop and the server versions |
| 14:29.30 | racecar56 | that's because it's technically the same os....... i guess |
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| 14:30.06 | racecar56 | if you'd need a server version, bingo, just install a few packages on a cmdline installation and boom, instant debian server |
| 14:30.15 | JuanJOBC | so, I have to look for every package by myslef? In Ubuntu server during the installation the main server utilities are prompted to be installed so it is faster |
| 14:30.30 | racecar56 | yeah but the benifit is you can install what you want |
| 14:30.51 | JuanJOBC | racecar56, ok, for this new installation I just need mysql+Apache+PHP |
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| 14:30.53 | racecar56 | instead of getting bloated virtual packages like ubuntu-desktop for gnome + xorg |
| 14:30.56 | jelly-home | JuanJOBC: servers do not carry lots of packages |
| 14:30.57 | JuanJOBC | so I already know the packages |
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| 14:31.41 | JuanJOBC | jelly-home, I used to use Webmin to control my Ubutu servers remotely, ..what Debian's population think about this? (Ubunutu banned Webmin from the repositories) |
| 14:32.12 | racecar56 | JuanJOBC: just use aptitude and install your stuffs |
| 14:32.23 | JuanJOBC | ok |
| 14:32.26 | racecar56 | JuanJOBC: apt-cache can help you when searching |
| 14:32.34 | JuanJOBC | yeah I used doing so |
| 14:32.36 | racecar56 | JuanJOBC: apt-cache search <terms> |
| 14:32.36 | jelly-home | JuanJOBC: how many machines? You might want to investigate something like puppet of cfengine |
| 14:32.48 | jelly-home | or* |
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| 14:33.11 | racecar56 | JuanJOBC: and apt-cache search pkgname | grep pkgname makes sure that you only get results that have pkgname in them |
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| 14:33.33 | JuanJOBC | racecar56, ah ok, thanks |
| 14:33.41 | racecar56 | JuanJOBC: and last but not least, be sure to use less if the package is popular, apt-cache search pkgname | less |
| 14:34.03 | racecar56 | JuanJOBC: hint: use shift+pageup/down to scroll in the terminal |
| 14:35.01 | racecar56 | JuanJOBC: and i suggest ssh for remoting your server |
| 14:35.02 | JuanJOBC | racecar56, thanks! I knew those points!, I have been working before with Ubuntu servers (only SSH and console), so I used a lot of times apt-get and apt-cache !! thanks |
| 14:35.09 | racecar56 | JuanJOBC: kk |
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| 14:35.29 | JuanJOBC | but I also sed to work with Webmin wich is very handy |
| 14:35.33 | racecar56 | kk |
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| 14:39.11 | lizone | anyone here with some knowledge on socks server |
| 14:39.13 | lizone | ? |
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| 14:40.49 | amphi | !tell lizone -about ask |
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| 14:41.25 | KeiKurono | someone has issues with amule adunanza.deb ? |
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| 14:44.38 | s4br3 | Hi, is it possible to remove or purge locally build kernel modules, like fglrx? |
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| 14:46.08 | valdyn | s4br3: if you built it properly then its just an installed debian package |
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| 14:46.24 | valdyn | s4br3: if you didnt then you get to clean up your own mess, which might be anything but easy |
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| 14:46.46 | valdyn | s4br3: ( just removing the kernel module isnt half of it ) |
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| 14:47.07 | s4br3 | Hmmm. Any tips on how to clean up? A link? |
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| 14:52.02 | valdyn | s4br3: ati website: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.24.8.html |
| 14:52.02 | valdyn | s4br3: or the equivalent for the driver version you installed |
| 14:52.02 | valdyn | s4br3: and if its anything broken as the nvidia drivers 'native' installer then it will probably not clean up properly |
| 14:52.02 | s4br3 | valdyn, Thanks! I have a few more days on my vacation... :) |
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| 14:52.03 | s4br3 | valdyn, BTW, I built it myself using module-assistant: m-a update m-a prepare m-a build fglrx m-a install fglrx. Would that still be the same? |
| 14:52.44 | valdyn | s4br3: then its debian packages |
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| 14:52.51 | valdyn | s4br3: dpkg -l | grep fglrx |
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| 14:53.25 | smarf | hello, by mistake vsock.ko module was deleted.. Can I just download it from somewhere or needs anything else? |
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| 14:54.33 | Wooga_tc | hello, i am updated from lenny to squeeze and now whenever i run gnome-session i am getting message that 'There was an error starting the GNOME setting daemon.' ... 'The Settings Daemon restarted too many times' |
| 14:54.47 | Wooga_tc | by the way, everything works well |
| 14:54.53 | Wooga_tc | but this message is frustrating |
| 14:55.00 | enouf | uff .. eth1394: eth0: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0) stole my eth0 .. heh |
| 14:55.01 | s4br3 | valdyn, that gave 5 hits |
| 14:55.17 | Wooga_tc | anyone have any idea, why it may come ? |
| 14:55.48 | enouf | modprobe -r eth1394 ; ifconfig eth0 down ; ifconfig eth1 up wins |
| 14:56.50 | smarf | noone? is it irreversible? |
| 14:57.11 | KeiKurono | a previous installation of debian via win32-loader has installed an additional boot manager that will fire up AFTER grub is loaded (if i load winxp, then another boot loader is shown to choose among win and the failed debian installation), how can i remove it? |
| 14:58.21 | enouf | alias grep='grep --colour=auto' |
| 14:58.30 | enouf | oh, that's a nice one ;-) |
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| 14:59.08 | enouf | smarf: if it was part of the debian kernel linux-image-$VERSION, you could judt reinstall the kernel |
| 14:59.24 | enouf | s/judt/just |
| 14:59.48 | smarf | enouf, just a simple apt-get or is it going to create other problems? |
| 14:59.57 | s4br3 | valdyn, So I managed to remove 3 of the 5 hits, as they were "rc". The remaing two are "pH"; I'll Google to see how they work |
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| 15:05.01 | tawan | Mint Debian anyone (probably not but some of you quiet ones will like it) http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=10267&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=285#p175246 |
| 15:05.16 | smarf | enouf, after reinstalling I get again: WARNING: Can't read module /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/misc/vsock.ko: No such file or directory |
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| 15:08.36 | PyroPeter | i installed usbip on lenny. but im missing the kernel modules? |
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| 15:13.21 | sshc | how do I disable the default login manager in Debian? |
| 15:13.42 | tawan | sshc, what is the default? |
| 15:13.45 | sshc | I don't want an X session whenever I boot or kill the current X |
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| 15:13.48 | tawan | i don't have one |
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| 15:14.12 | PyroPeter | take gdm out of the runlevels |
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| 15:15.01 | PyroPeter | rm /etc/rc2.d/S30gdm |
| 15:15.21 | rozie | PyroPeter: very bad idea |
| 15:15.28 | sshc | why? |
| 15:15.31 | rozie | use rcconf instead |
| 15:15.31 | PyroPeter | rozie: but works :-P |
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| 15:16.08 | PyroPeter | rozie: what does rcconf besides deleting the symlink? |
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| 15:16.40 | rozie | it just disables the service |
| 15:17.07 | Schuenemann | I installed a 32bit with force-architecture and now I broke the package manager |
| 15:17.10 | rozie | S -> K |
| 15:17.12 | Schuenemann | how do I fix that |
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| 15:17.33 | Schuenemann | it was libao2_0.8.8-4_i386 |
| 15:17.33 | PyroPeter | rozie: but how? |
| 15:17.38 | PyroPeter | ah |
| 15:17.42 | rozie | ;) |
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| 15:17.51 | rozie | *much* better |
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| 15:19.29 | quma | hi all, how can i check installed packages per section? i.e. devel or net... |
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| 15:20.23 | PyroPeter | is there nobody who could help me using usbip? |
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| 15:28.10 | PyroPeter | the question is: why does someone package a software if it would be easier to compile the sources? |
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| 15:30.47 | s4br3 | Schuenemann, "and now I broke the package manager". I think aptitude is broken now; i.e. not your fault |
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| 15:34.04 | thneed | I am running debian squeeze and I am having errors with gnome-settings daemon crashing as I login, I checked in #gnome and it looks like it may be a debian problem. Is there a fix? |
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| 15:34.14 | YiamiYo | hi |
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| 15:34.53 | YiamiYo | is there any way to "save" my system and when i reformat install it just like it is now? |
| 15:35.13 | dophamin | YiamiYo man dd |
| 15:35.21 | YiamiYo | ? |
| 15:35.31 | dophamin | you can create a clone of your hd using dd |
| 15:35.57 | YiamiYo | is it a command? |
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| 15:38.36 | mrtn1232 | I would like to test all of my three HDD's(sda, sbd and sdc). Should I use fallowing command: "badblocks -b 4096 -s -v -n /dev/sda && badblocks -b 4096 -s -v -n /dev/sdb && badblocks -b 4096 -s -v -n /dev/sdc"? I mean am I right that && menast that if the first command has finished, then execute the second one etc? |
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| 15:40.17 | Titan8990 | is there a way to get apt to remove a package ignoring package that depend on it? |
| 15:40.44 | g00se | YiamiYo: partimage |
| 15:40.58 | Padhu | Titan: man apt-get |
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| 15:41.45 | g00se | Titan8990: why do you want to? |
| 15:41.52 | stevieB | does debian have an fuser package |
| 15:42.09 | Titan8990 | g00se, test an exception catch in application |
| 15:42.40 | YiamiYo | ty g00se... |
| 15:42.46 | zinkeldonk | I want to upgrade the kernel to the latest lenny kernel, but keep the rest of the release as etch. I was hoping I could do this using the preferences file. Thing is really, can preferences take this syntax: |
| 15:42.46 | zinkeldonk | Package: linux-image* |
| 15:42.46 | zinkeldonk | I see it can do: |
| 15:42.46 | zinkeldonk | Package: * |
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| 15:43.21 | fxiny | and use lenny ! |
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| 15:44.01 | Titan8990 | Padhu, i am not seeing a flag for it... do i need to hold the package or something? |
| 15:44.03 | norbert_ | hi all, is there a way to find out how many and what symbolic links exist to a certain file (in Debian stable; bash) ? |
| 15:44.13 | fxiny | zinkeldonk: why not just upgrading to lenny ? |
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| 15:44.44 | zinkeldonk | Ummmm. Well..we've standardised on etch for the mo. |
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| 15:46.15 | WormFood | what package do I need to install in sid to see what the fuck using all my disk I/O? I'm so fuckin' suck of my god dam hard drive led staying steady lit 2 fuckin' hours, while I can barely use my computer for anything. |
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| 15:46.59 | norbert_ | WormFood: did you check out "top" ? |
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| 15:47.13 | WormFood | what the hell in top shows me what is using all my hard drive I/O? |
| 15:47.19 | norbert_ | might be something that also keeps the CPU busy |
| 15:47.39 | WormFood | it does not appear to be, as I can see nothing that should be acting this way. |
| 15:47.45 | rozie | WormFood: iotop? and don't swear. |
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| 15:47.54 | WormFood | iotop, that is it |
| 15:47.59 | WormFood | thanks rozie |
| 15:48.02 | norbert_ | a simple top-like I/O monitor |
| 15:48.09 | norbert_ | sounds like what you need :) |
| 15:48.25 | WormFood | yeah, that i exactly what I need |
| 15:48.35 | Titan8990 | ehh, guess im just going to test this in gentoo... |
| 15:48.36 | amphi | 'what the hell' is hardly swearing |
| 15:48.36 | WormFood | I swear this shit is driving me crazy! |
| 15:48.43 | m2rt | Hey, question, I inserted debian netinstall cd. Got it to boot from the cd. Now its excpecting me to write something. it has: boot: |
| 15:48.57 | norbert_ | amphi: but "what the fuck using all my disk I/O? I'm so fuckin' suck of my god dam hard drive led staying steady lit 2 fuckin' hours" is |
| 15:49.01 | Titan8990 | m2rt, press enter |
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| 15:49.16 | WormFood | norbert_, what? I'm not allowed to vent here? :P |
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| 15:49.43 | m2rt | Titan8990: went to next line and did nothing.... |
| 15:49.46 | norbert_ | iotop, that's nice, have to remember that one |
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| 15:50.07 | amphi | norbert_: it is indeed; I missed that ;) |
| 15:50.11 | Titan8990 | m2rt, what is the next line?/ |
| 15:50.17 | WormFood | I remember hearing about iotop before, but couldn't for the life of me remember the name now |
| 15:50.22 | norbert_ | on my pc it currently shows: skype, kjournald and mplayer |
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| 15:50.55 | paissad-hp | hi everybody ! |
| 15:51.10 | paissad-hp | i have a trouble of connecting to the internet when i get out of pm-suspend |
| 15:51.18 | zinkeldonk | Actually my question is one related to Ubuntu but I know this is not the forum for that. If I know more about the prefs file from here, I can apply it in 'buntu |
| 15:51.19 | paissad-hp | i ran dchlient , but the matter remains ! |
| 15:51.27 | paissad-hp | does someone know what to do to solve that ? |
| 15:51.32 | m2rt | Titan8990: empty line |
| 15:51.32 | paissad-hp | thanks in advance |
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| 15:51.48 | WormFood | god damn! this is really frustrating....my hard drive led is still steady lit, and iotop nothing at the top of the list...they cycle through the different active programs, like I would expect it to do...it appears that no one thing is sucking up all the disk i/o.....but it usually does not act this way. |
| 15:52.18 | fxiny | still mourning ? |
| 15:52.24 | fxiny | rozie: ^^^ ;) |
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| 15:52.39 | norbert_ | WormFood: go through all the output lines of: $ ps auxxxwww |
| 15:52.52 | fxiny | pgrep |
| 15:53.12 | WormFood | norbert_, I've gone over this before...this is not the first time this has happened...I NEVER see anything out of the ordinary |
| 15:53.49 | norbert_ | WormFood: what's the output of: $ free -m|grep Swap |
| 15:53.51 | WormFood | and then it stops after about 2 hours, while my whole fuckin' compute quits working...and then something like pidgin or firefox crashes (and both are running fine now) |
| 15:54.11 | norbert_ | WormFood: can you stop swearing, it won't help you and annoys us |
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| 15:55.02 | WormFood | it is showing about 1.3 gig of swap being used (but it really shouldn't be using any swap, as it is not using up all of the physical ram) |
| 15:55.19 | norbert_ | yeah, 1.3G swap in use sounds like the problem |
| 15:55.27 | norbert_ | that might also be why firefox crashes |
| 15:55.48 | rozie | now you can check what uses the memory... |
| 15:56.14 | norbert_ | WormFood: try top and then press <Shift>m |
| 15:56.21 | norbert_ | and look under %MEM |
| 15:56.25 | zinkeldonk | Also, I don't suspect the preferences is ordered in any way....I mean, first entries don't mean more than last, etc. |
| 15:57.56 | norbert_ | can anyone tell me how I can check what symbolic links exist to a certain file? |
| 15:59.03 | WormFood | ok, I got it all figured out |
| 15:59.09 | WormFood | I think |
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| 16:00.11 | norbert_ | nm, found it (find -L . -samefile /home/matto/example) |
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| 16:00.57 | Demios | i'm having a problem with my resolution. I just installed debian yesterday |
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| 16:01.18 | Demios | my only options are 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 |
| 16:01.20 | smacnay | I checked bugs.debian.org but see no mention of the bug I have with aptitude. It was removed due to dependency issues. This must be fairly recent. |
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| 16:01.29 | Demios | my laptop screen is a 16:10 |
| 16:01.38 | Demios | 133x768 native |
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| 16:01.51 | Demios | err 1266x768 |
| 16:01.54 | Demios | ksvsd |
| 16:01.57 | Demios | cant trype |
| 16:01.57 | Titan8990 | Demios, using what drivers? |
| 16:02.16 | Demios | i have installed no drivers, if i do it will be intel |
| 16:02.19 | WormFood | I think I viewed the wrong web page, using "epiphany-browse"...and their poorly written flash shit sucked up all my ram, causing my machine to swap out to disk like crazy. (I usually use firefox with no-script, so I don't usually have those type of problems anymore) |
| 16:02.32 | smacnay | ah - this package (libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6-4.7) us missing or obsolete. |
| 16:02.51 | Demios | can i find the drivers i need in synaptic? |
| 16:03.16 | norbert_ | Demios: what's the video card? |
| 16:03.42 | WormFood | as soon as I killed firefox, I could see my memory in use drop by about 500 meg, then steady using it all up again....as soon as I killed epiphany-browse, both ram and swap dropped a LOT, and hasn't jumped back up |
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| 16:04.19 | WormFood | thanks norbert_ and rozie....you told me what I already know, but was too pissed off to think straight about it. |
| 16:04.28 | norbert_ | Demios: does this output something: $ lspci|grep VGA |
| 16:04.44 | norbert_ | WormFood: np, have fun using Debian :) |
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| 16:05.13 | Titan8990 | Demios, lshw will tell you the driver that the card is currently using |
| 16:05.14 | WormFood | this isn't a debian problem, but a "Linux problem" in my opinion. |
| 16:05.50 | norbert_ | another cool package, lshw-gtk |
| 16:05.51 | Demios | nobert hardinfo lists it as an intel corp mobile 4 series chipset integrated graphics controller |
| 16:05.52 | WormFood | I actually like debian, and have been using it for about 5 years now I think. (before that my system was mostly LFS) |
| 16:05.55 | norbert_ | got to remember these things |
| 16:06.06 | Titan8990 | WormFood, i disagree, its an adobe problem |
| 16:06.29 | WormFood | well Titan8990, I agree...flash is complete and total garbage |
| 16:06.32 | rozie | WormFood: disable cache in memory in about:config |
| 16:06.48 | WormFood | but I look at it as Linux should handle it better |
| 16:06.55 | WormFood | where is that rozie? |
| 16:07.04 | rozie | about:config in Fx |
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| 16:07.20 | rozie | search for "cache" |
| 16:07.20 | WormFood | firefox is not usually a problem, but I'll check out that option. |
| 16:07.44 | rozie | linux has nothing to do with apps, which want more memory |
| 16:07.52 | rozie | you can set limits... |
| 16:07.53 | WormFood | without a doubt, flash is the single worst thing (other than microsoft) that ever happened to the web :( |
| 16:08.01 | WormFood | I know, read what I said |
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| 16:08.12 | WormFood | I feel part of the problem is in how Linux (kernel) handles it |
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| 16:08.18 | Demios | intel corp mobile 4 series chipset integrated graphics controller (rev 07) is what lspci|grep VGA gives me. |
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| 16:08.25 | WormFood | maybe I'm wrong...I do understand it is apps using up all the ram. |
| 16:08.28 | rozie | no. you told him to use memory + swap |
| 16:08.45 | rozie | there was no limit for ram and app/user |
| 16:08.56 | rozie | so it tried to use memory (and swap) |
| 16:09.03 | WormFood | what I HATE about flash is the way people abuse it |
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| 16:09.30 | fxiny | people ? you mean klingon |
| 16:09.44 | WormFood | what the fuck are these people thinking? I want to go to their god damn shit web page to listen to music....but I can't use the site without turning on this god damn garbage.....drives me fuckin' crazy I need to use shit web sites like this. |
| 16:10.39 | paissad-hp | please guys, which service need to restart in order to make my internet come back, when i get out of pm-suspend, i cannot connect to the internet, even if i run |
| 16:10.42 | paissad-hp | dhclient |
| 16:10.51 | WormFood | now when I restart FF, and reload my tabs, I get 3 or 4 different pages trying to play shit music at me at the same time |
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| 16:10.58 | paissad-hp | is there any service to restart manually please ? |
| 16:11.14 | WormFood | you'd think they would leave that off, but nooooo. these fucktards make it automatically play music when you visit their page...AARRRGGGHHH!!! |
| 16:11.35 | Demios | :/ |
| 16:11.47 | WormFood | paissad-hp, you can try "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0" (or whatever your interface name is |
| 16:11.48 | norbert_ | Demios: I'm no expert on this, but I'm pretty sure you need xserver-xorg-video-i810 |
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| 16:12.06 | WormFood | paissad-hp, that is how I handle it |
| 16:12.06 | paissad-hp | WormFood, i did that but the matter remains |
| 16:12.15 | WormFood | how many interfaces do you have? |
| 16:12.16 | Demios | i have xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 16:12.25 | WormFood | sure you don't need to do that to ppp0 or eth1 as your network device? |
| 16:12.27 | norbert_ | Demios: and you might want to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after that |
| 16:12.35 | Demios | kk |
| 16:12.59 | WormFood | paissad-hp, you can also try "/etc/init.d/networking restart", and see if that helps |
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| 16:13.07 | paissad-hp | WormFood, my network device is eth0 |
| 16:13.13 | paissad-hp | not eth1 or ppp0 |
| 16:13.57 | WormFood | paissad-hp, did you try unloading and reloading your network module |
| 16:14.11 | WormFood | I sometimes find (under certain conditions) I have to do that |
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| 16:14.28 | Demios | norbert_: i get one video option for buffer, everything is is about my keyboard settings |
| 16:14.40 | paissad-hp | WormFood, restarting /etc/*/networking returns something like send_pakcet: Network is unreachable |
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| 16:15.09 | thneed | I am running debian squeeze and I am having errors with gnome-settings daemon crashing as I login, I checked in #gnome and it looks like it may be a debian problem. Is there a fix? |
| 16:15.12 | paissad-hp | WormFood, how reload or unload network modules ? |
| 16:16.11 | norbert_ | Demois: not sure but didn't it generate a file for you? |
| 16:16.25 | paissad-hp | WormFood, btw, when i restart the computer, the network is ok ! |
| 16:16.29 | paissad-hp | really weird ! |
| 16:16.35 | rozie | paissad-hp: install wicd |
| 16:16.46 | paissad-hp | i always get the matter when go to pm-suspend |
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| 16:17.49 | WormFood | paissad-hp, did you try unloading and reloading your network module? |
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| 16:17.57 | Demios | norbert_ nope |
| 16:17.58 | paissad-hp | WormFood, how please ? |
| 16:17.59 | rozie | paissad-hp: probably your driver has some problem with suspend |
| 16:18.01 | superfirelord42 | Hello, I cant seem to find this to save my life, prob wrong search terms. Im looking for the debian equivlent of packages.ubuntu.com, but for debian. Anyone got a link? |
| 16:18.27 | rozie | superfirelord42: www.debian.org |
| 16:18.39 | rozie | packages.debian.org |
| 16:18.39 | solexx | superfirelord42: what about packages.debian.org ? |
| 16:18.40 | norbert_ | superfirelord42: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 16:18.46 | rozie | shomething like that |
| 16:18.46 | abrotman | superfirelord42: packages.debian.org |
| 16:18.54 | norbert_ | that question was just too easy |
| 16:18.57 | paissad-hp | rozie, when i used to use slackware linux, i did not have that trouble of getting of pm-suspend and using internet after |
| 16:18.58 | superfirelord42 | facepalms, i was mispelling it |
| 16:19.06 | WormFood | paissad-hp, rmmod xxx, modprobe xxx |
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| 16:19.14 | WormFood | of course, replace xxx with your network module |
| 16:19.20 | paissad-hp | i see |
| 16:19.45 | usb_user | paissad-hp, do you have gnome installed with the whole gnome network admin thing? |
| 16:19.54 | norbert_ | Demios: X -configure ? |
| 16:20.08 | norbert_ | Demios: that should give you the file I was talking about |
| 16:20.12 | norbert_ | Demios: but you have to leave X for it |
| 16:20.15 | usb_user | I know I had problems with debian and any kind of network manager, So I just let /etc/network/interfaces take care of it |
| 16:20.15 | WormFood | rozie, I'm looking for that option to disable the cache, and I don't see anything (I hate the way the changed the config screen in firefox) |
| 16:20.51 | norbert_ | Demios: it gives you a xorg.conf.new file in ~ |
| 16:20.54 | rozie | WormFood: try cache |
| 16:20.54 | Demios | norbert_: fatal error sever is already active for display 0 |
| 16:20.56 | usb_user | WormFood, you mean like browser.cache.disk.enable |
| 16:21.08 | norbert_ | Demios: yes, that's what I said, you have to leave X for it |
| 16:21.18 | WormFood | where is that setting? |
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| 16:21.23 | rozie | browser.cache.memory.enable |
| 16:21.24 | norbert_ | Demios: also, before you use the new file, make sure you backup the old /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 16:21.24 | WormFood | not in the normal preferences page |
| 16:21.28 | usb_user | no |
| 16:21.30 | paissad-hp | usb_user, i use debian-xfce |
| 16:21.42 | paissad-hp | that the iso i have used to install the OS |
| 16:21.45 | abrotman | WormFood: in firefox or iceweasel? |
| 16:21.45 | usb_user | WormFood, open a new tab and go to "about:config" |
| 16:21.45 | WormFood | how do I get to the hidden settings? |
| 16:21.47 | Tagor | WormFood: about:config |
| 16:21.50 | WormFood | iceweasel |
| 16:22.02 | WormFood | ok, about:config...I remember it was something stupid like that. |
| 16:22.03 | rozie | doesn't matter |
| 16:22.08 | usb_user | paissad-hp, hmm not sure then |
| 16:22.20 | paissad-hp | yes, not sure :-) |
| 16:22.22 | rozie | 18:12 < rozie> about:config in Fx |
| 16:22.25 | rozie | ;/ |
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| 16:22.36 | mrtn1232 | in wodim(cdrecord) if the buffer shows "99%", is it 99% full or 99% empty? And as i understand if it's fullt, is good? :) |
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| 16:22.50 | Ederson | ping |
| 16:22.58 | superfirelord42 | Ederson, pong? |
| 16:23.26 | Ederson | superfirelord42, Just testing :P |
| 16:23.33 | WormFood | browser.cache.memory.enable <-- I'm guessing it is this one |
| 16:23.57 | rozie | 18:26 < rozie> browser.cache.memory.enable |
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| 16:24.05 | paissad-hp | WormFood, did you mean " rmmod eth0" ^^ |
| 16:24.13 | WormFood | no |
| 16:24.15 | rozie | wonders if is ignored in some strange way... |
| 16:24.17 | Schuenemann | can anyone tell me if debian's libao's package for 32bit is broken? |
| 16:24.23 | WormFood | what would that get you paissad-hp? did you try it? |
| 16:24.25 | abrotman | Schuenemann: bugs.debian.org |
| 16:24.47 | Ederson | Anyone know how is the default font for Xchat??? |
| 16:24.56 | paissad-hp | WormFood, i tried it, but it think it's normal that does not work , eth0 is not a module, but a device |
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| 16:25.10 | paissad-hp | i just don't know which module you"re talking about, sorry mate |
| 16:25.17 | Ederson | I change my font and now I dont know the default to revert back the change |
| 16:25.18 | Demios | norbert_: heh xorg.conf is empty |
| 16:25.23 | rozie | paissad-hp: paste lspci -n on pastebin.com |
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| 16:25.27 | norbert_ | Ederson: Preferences -> Interface -> Text box -> Font |
| 16:25.30 | Demios | guess i have to leave X |
| 16:25.40 | ranix | Ederson: xchat doesn't have a default font, it's image based |
| 16:25.40 | WormFood | right, eth0 is not a device module....so you need to do an lsmod and see what is your ethernet device, and try what I suggested |
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| 16:26.15 | WormFood | and what difference does the default font matter? just use whatever font you want. |
| 16:26.25 | Ederson | norbert_, Yes I know how to change, but I would like to know how is the defauld font |
| 16:26.26 | Schuenemann | abrotman, well, that are many involving libao |
| 16:26.58 | abrotman | lspci -k .. it will show you the module name |
| 16:27.19 | Ederson | norbert_, ranix I changed to Comic Sans MS Bold 10 but I did not like this one |
| 16:27.43 | Ederson | norbert_, ranix Do you guys know how is the default font?? |
| 16:27.46 | WormFood | so change the font to something else, until you find what you like |
| 16:27.55 | norbert_ | not sure I understand your question; the default gnome fonts can be changed here: System->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts |
| 16:27.55 | WormFood | I personally suggest you use a monospace font |
| 16:27.58 | ranix | Ederson: I was just trolling you, sorry |
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| 16:28.24 | norbert_ | oh, you mean "what" |
| 16:28.33 | norbert_ | you want to know "what" the default font for xchat was, because you changed it |
| 16:28.42 | norbert_ | that would be: Monospace 9 |
| 16:28.49 | freenose | hmm didn't know about go-oo.o, running sid, really impressive, the speed |
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| 16:29.06 | Schuenemann | abrotman, I'm trying to run zsnes 32 bit on lenny 64 bit. According to a zsnes developer I should make a symlink to /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/liboss-32.a. There is only a .so file there, though |
| 16:29.14 | Schuenemann | that's why I ask |
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| 16:30.19 | Ederson | norbert_, Seems good now |
| 16:30.29 | Ederson | norbert_, Thanks so much |
| 16:30.39 | norbert_ | Ederson: np |
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| 16:31.53 | WormFood | I wished I could use monospace 9 with x-chat, but I just can't read most chinese characters that small :( I wished I could have a different font size just for chinese characters |
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| 16:32.25 | WormFood | even with monospace 12, complex characters look like a blob |
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| 16:36.43 | paissad-hp | when i do lspci -k ,i see the module for the ethernet card, and when i do rmmod -vf module_name, i have this output " rmmod forcedeth, wait=no force ERROR: Removing 'forcedeth': Device or ressource busy' |
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| 16:37.09 | paissad-hp | where module name is forcedeth |
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| 16:37.20 | paissad-hp | i've done ifconfig eth0 down too |
| 16:37.22 | abrotman | !rmmod |
| 16:37.23 | dpkg | [rmmod] a command that should not be used, use 'modprobe -r' (or <modconf>) instead |
| 16:37.41 | thneed | okay, I ran through failsafe gnome and fixed broken packages, and now I can get my gui to load in ubuntu, but terminal keeps telling me to fix package dependencies with apt-get -f install, it consistently fails |
| 16:38.08 | abrotman | thneed: shouldn't you be asking #ubuntu? |
| 16:38.09 | thneed | trouble is itis recommending pulseaudio which I have no desire to run |
| 16:38.13 | thneed | whoops |
| 16:38.14 | thneed | sorry |
| 16:39.22 | paissad-hp | modprobe -rfv forcedeth does not solve the matter too ! |
| 16:39.26 | paissad-hp | what a pity |
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| 16:39.32 | paissad-hp | unlucky i am ! |
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| 16:40.52 | paissad-hp | do you have another idea to restart the network please ? |
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| 16:41.24 | OpenTokix | reboot the machine? |
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| 16:41.59 | paissad-hp | OpenTokix, it works, i know, but i don't want to do every time i get out of pm-suspend ! |
| 16:42.09 | OpenTokix | aha |
| 16:42.23 | OpenTokix | Not my ballpark, laptops that is |
| 16:42.56 | abrotman | you can have suspend unload the module before suspending .. then reload it when it starts up again |
| 16:43.22 | paissad-hp | abrotman, the module is loaded, i've checked with lsmod |
| 16:43.33 | abrotman | notice where i said .. unload |
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| 16:44.25 | enouf | smarf: sorry, been busy - i have no /misc/ directory - and "rgrep vsock /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/" yields nothing here for me |
| 16:44.26 | enouf | smarf: so, i suspect that module came from elsewhere, whatever it is |
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| 16:46.01 | cydork | enouf, i remember you were asking about btrfs yesterday.. check this out http://www.howtoforge.com/boot-on-btrfs-with-debian |
| 16:46.22 | enouf | cydork: oh nice ;-) |
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| 16:46.54 | smarf | enouf, yes, actually it's from vmware. |
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| 16:47.18 | smarf | enouf, I want to remove it because it spits annoying warnings like: |
| 16:47.33 | smarf | WARNING: Can't read module /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/misc/vsock.ko: No such file or directory |
| 16:47.39 | smarf | in every apt-* use |
| 16:47.47 | smarf | how can I remove it? |
| 16:48.54 | enouf | smarf: you originally said it got "accidentally removed" ? |
| 16:49.02 | smarf | by me.. yes |
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| 16:49.14 | rozie | smarf: reinstall kernel |
| 16:49.22 | smarf | rozie, I did, same warnings. |
| 16:49.25 | enouf | 10:51 < smarf> hello, by mistake vsock.ko module was deleted.. |
| 16:49.28 | enouf | heh |
| 16:49.31 | smarf | :) |
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| 16:49.40 | kensukeido | hi |
| 16:49.41 | rozie | smarf: install other kernel, reboot to it |
| 16:49.43 | smarf | or maybe remoot? |
| 16:49.46 | smarf | reboot :p |
| 16:49.54 | smarf | oh i forgot to reboot :/ |
| 16:49.56 | rozie | then purge this and install once again |
| 16:50.01 | abrotman | smarf: is it in /etc/modules ? |
| 16:50.04 | kensukeido | http://pastebin.com/m4f40965f | Debian Sid |
| 16:50.07 | enouf | smarf: or ask #vmware or stop vmware from using it |
| 16:50.22 | enouf | smarf: find it's depends |
| 16:50.30 | smarf | abrotman, no. |
| 16:50.31 | enouf | modinfo <modulename> |
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| 16:50.37 | smarf | enouf, yes vbox seems wiser. |
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| 16:50.50 | smarf | i uninstalled vmware.. and I don't want it any more. |
| 16:51.00 | fxiny | il lenny ? |
| 16:51.03 | fxiny | in* |
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| 16:51.14 | smarf | that's why I want to remove that warning too. I don't know why it "reads" vsock somewhere.. |
| 16:51.16 | smarf | fxiny, yes |
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| 16:51.27 | enouf | smarf: ok ... so how about you install a Debian kernel :-p .. or reverse whatever you did to get that /msic/vsock.ko |
| 16:51.27 | fxiny | smarf: what was the problem ? |
| 16:51.49 | enouf | fxiny: he's got leftover vmware modules loading |
| 16:51.56 | smarf | yep |
| 16:51.56 | fxiny | enouf: i see |
| 16:52.02 | smarf | just one.. |
| 16:52.05 | smarf | :) |
| 16:52.11 | enouf | i have no clue about vmware - ask them |
| 16:52.12 | smarf | the other were removed successfully |
| 16:52.16 | fxiny | you did not remove it properly , i guess |
| 16:52.25 | smarf | actually I deleted it :) |
| 16:52.41 | smarf | and I have such warnings now: |
| 16:52.42 | smarf | WARNING: Can't read module /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/misc/vsock.ko: No such file or directory |
| 16:52.49 | enouf | smarf: show us the "warning" again - and what are you running when that occurs? |
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| 16:52.54 | kensukeido | Anybody have an idea about this pastebin? |
| 16:52.57 | paissad-hp | damn it, i restarted the system, i have no longer eth0 now when i run ifconfig -a |
| 16:53.02 | smarf | enouf, every apt* command. |
| 16:53.04 | paissad-hp | i just have 'lo' for the loopback ! |
| 16:53.10 | enouf | smarf: something else is trying to load it |
| 16:53.12 | smarf | enouf, depmod -a too. |
| 16:53.19 | enouf | oh .. well .. fix it :-P |
| 16:53.22 | paissad-hp | btw, the module for the ethernet card is loaded, i see it into lsmod ! |
| 16:53.39 | abrotman | paissad-hp: look through 'dmesg' |
| 16:53.47 | Ederson | ChanServ, ? |
| 16:54.02 | enouf | my apt-* commands never say anything like that - ask vmware, or fix your possible apt-proxy settings? echo $http_proxy? |
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| 16:54.09 | fxiny | smarf: vmware server ? |
| 16:54.48 | smarf | fxiny, yes. |
| 16:54.48 | enouf | reinstall, update/upgrade apt? |
| 16:54.48 | enouf | does aptitude also do it? |
| 16:54.48 | smarf | enouf, what about "depmod"? |
| 16:54.58 | enouf | what about it? |
| 16:55.04 | smarf | it gives me the same warning. |
| 16:55.15 | fxiny | smarf: 0.9 ? |
| 16:55.20 | enouf | oh - well stop running it - and use modinfo |
| 16:55.45 | smarf | fxiny, which version is that? vmware's? |
| 16:55.47 | enouf | i told you, some/many modules depend on others |
| 16:55.50 | enouf | fix it |
| 16:55.54 | smarf | hm |
| 16:56.12 | smarf | let me reboot and pray to see if it's fixed. |
| 16:56.27 | enouf | rgrep vsock /etc/mod* |
| 16:56.27 | smarf | be back in a few seconds |
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| 16:56.34 | smarf | ok |
| 16:56.48 | enouf | smarf: stop talking and ask the #vmware people |
| 16:56.49 | smarf | enouf, nothing. |
| 16:57.06 | enouf | it has NOTHING to do with debian |
| 16:57.24 | Ederson | Whos is the operator for this channel?? |
| 16:57.25 | enouf | and keep praying :-p |
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| 16:58.06 | smarf | enouf, alright.. |
| 16:58.15 | fxiny | smarf: ls /usr/bin/vmware* --> seen the uninstall ? so reisntall and run that .pl after |
| 16:58.17 | enouf | remember to circle *counterclockwise* while you circumvent the southern hemisphere - heh |
| 16:58.27 | smarf | fxiny, I did that SO MANY times.. |
| 16:58.34 | smarf | really, nothing. |
| 16:58.40 | enouf | to /dance in a/ circle -- heh |
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| 16:58.57 | fxiny | smarf: which version again ? cause 0.9 works only with a psycho* something patch |
| 16:59.10 | Ederson | I would like to reset the password for my nickname. Who can help me on that?? |
| 16:59.16 | smarf | a newer one.. I think it was 1.2 |
| 16:59.28 | enouf | smarf: strace your apt-* and depmod commands |
| 16:59.45 | enouf | (last thing i say about it) |
| 17:00.15 | abrotman | Ederson: passwd <username> |
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| 17:00.40 | Ederson | abrotman, I forgot my password |
| 17:00.41 | SuperMiguel | for desktop use is it worth it going from 4gb to 8gb? |
| 17:00.49 | abrotman | Ederson: so do it as root |
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| 17:01.06 | fxiny | smarf: i've tested it , i have installed it , pathced and removed it , no porbs , i'm not a vmware faa but i can't stand when something "free" like this "don't work" in stable |
| 17:01.14 | fxiny | fan* |
| 17:01.37 | freenose | abrotman: I think he means irc password |
| 17:01.57 | Ederson | abrotman, No man, I think you did not understand, I have a nick resgistered here, but as I am not using IRC for the last year I forgot it |
| 17:01.59 | abrotman | be less vague ? |
| 17:02.14 | abrotman | Ederson: /nsg nickserv help .. though you'll likely have to contact staff |
| 17:02.23 | smarf | fxiny, I did have lots of problems.. I tried stuff.. When other virtualizations work within minutes, I don't want to waste time on that :/ |
| 17:02.24 | borman | Hi, I'd like to update a package that is not in the repositories I've seen that there are a package in the repositories but I don't know how to update an specific package |
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| 17:02.55 | borman | I mean it is in the repositories sorry for my bad explanation |
| 17:03.04 | rozie | Ederson: try to re-register it |
| 17:03.08 | rozie | if it's free |
| 17:03.10 | Ederson | abrotman, So, is there someone from Freenode here to help me?? |
| 17:03.18 | Ederson | rozie, How?? |
| 17:03.23 | smarf | enouf, folks in #vmware: touch ..vsock.ko and then remove :p It did the job! |
| 17:03.25 | rozie | just register it |
| 17:03.27 | abrotman | Ederson: ask #freenode |
| 17:03.29 | fxiny | smarf: 1.2 ? don't like it at all |
| 17:04.24 | g00se | Ederson: /msg NickServ identify <password> |
| 17:04.51 | smarf | fxiny, i was wrong, it's 1.0.9 (installed many softwares today) |
| 17:05.09 | Ederson | g00se, I forgot the password, that's the problem :( |
| 17:05.22 | g00se | Ederson: Sorry ;-) |
| 17:05.24 | fxiny | same /usr/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl |
| 17:05.46 | abrotman | Ederson: ask #freenode |
| 17:05.58 | g00se | Ederson: Although you might be able just to reset it like that ... |
| 17:06.18 | Ederson | abrotman, I am trere thanks |
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| 17:06.43 | kensukeido | is a bug http://pastebin.com/m4f40965f? |
| 17:07.14 | abrotman | kensukeido: you're running unstable |
| 17:07.23 | kensukeido | abrotman: yes |
| 17:07.40 | abrotman | yeah .. that happens .. if you want your system to work without issues like that, don't run unstable |
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| 17:07.56 | fxiny | smarf: --> "... uninstalling currently installed kernel modules ... " |
| 17:08.44 | fxiny | smarf: so , just run the install again and run the uninstaller |
| 17:09.17 | smarf | fxiny, everything seems to be fine after doing the trick of the #vmware guys. |
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| 17:09.32 | fxiny | smarf: which one ? |
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| 17:09.32 | smarf | I'm already using vbox.. |
| 17:09.41 | smarf | fxiny, touch vsock.ko and then remove it. |
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| 17:10.11 | fxiny | smarf: so simple ;) |
| 17:10.15 | smarf | :) |
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| 17:12.20 | liars | its such a bummer being stuck on stable (lenny) sometimes |
| 17:12.32 | liars | the xorg 3d acceleration is really a terror in lenny |
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| 17:37.18 | darrh00 | minutes ago I see emacs23 has been in unstable,but When I search again,it disappears.what can possibly happen? |
| 17:37.44 | wildc4rd | evening all |
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| 17:41.46 | abrotman | judd: versions emacs23 |
| 17:41.48 | judd | abrotman: emacs23 -- |
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| 17:43.11 | gwz | hey, i was wondering how i would go about connecting to my wifi which uses wpa, i already have wpasupplicant and passphrase etc |
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| 17:46.42 | liars | gwz: it depends on how complicated a solution you want |
| 17:47.01 | norbert_ | !bot |
| 17:47.02 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 17:47.24 | liars | gwz: i use wicd which is light on resources, give it a shot, gnome also comes with a wifi manager application, part of network-manager i think |
| 17:47.33 | norbert_ | norbert, versions emacs23 |
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| 17:47.44 | norbert_ | norbert_: versions emacs23 |
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| 17:48.07 | norbert_ | hum... |
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| 17:48.46 | hark | norbert_: http://packages.debian.org/emacs23 |
| 17:49.13 | norbert_ | hark: I know :) I though that abrotman was telling the bot to do something |
| 17:49.30 | abrotman | i was asking the bot |
| 17:49.41 | norbert_ | oh |
| 17:49.45 | norbert_ | now I get it, judd is another bot |
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| 17:50.19 | norbert_ | (I thought he was using dpkg to tell judd something) |
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| 17:51.08 | n_np | hey guys |
| 17:51.20 | n_np | how do you download packages with the netinstall to install on other puters also? |
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| 17:54.05 | mrtn1232 | when I do "diff file0 file1" I get a fallowing output: 14a15 What does that mean? |
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| 17:55.07 | jaalto | I'm trying to start cvsd, but syslog says: "listening on 0.0.0.0 2401 bind() failed: Address already in use". I don't see port used in "netstat -tap". xinetd and inetd services were disabled for clean testing. What should I check next? |
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| 17:56.45 | norbert_ | mrtn1232: something was added, probably lines 14 and 15, let me look it up for you |
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| 17:58.12 | norbert_ | add a new line after line 14 |
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| 17:58.15 | norbert_ | that's what it means |
| 17:58.59 | mrtn1232 | norbert_: I was bit stupid. I did "ls . >> file0 && ls $pwd >> file1 | diff file0 file1". I should have done those logfiles file0 and file1 to /tmp folder. :D |
| 17:59.01 | norbert_ | so, a line was probably added to file1 |
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| 18:00.32 | iandoh | hey does anyone here use VLC on debian lenny |
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| 18:00.55 | norbert_ | iandoh: I do |
| 18:00.57 | jpinx-eeepc | iandoh: yes |
| 18:01.21 | norbert_ | and mplayer of course :) |
| 18:01.22 | iandoh | right |
| 18:01.33 | iandoh | have any of you been able to sucessfully transocde uising it? |
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| 18:02.10 | jpinx-eeepc | iandoh: /join #vlc - I have no clue what transcoding is |
| 18:02.15 | norbert_ | never use vlc for it |
| 18:02.24 | norbert_ | from what to what do you want to convert? |
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| 18:02.29 | iandoh | im trying to transcode a mpeg-2 TS stream |
| 18:02.34 | iandoh | which works fine in the VLC on windows |
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| 18:02.49 | iandoh | but no matter WHAT i do all it seems to give me is the source output like it cant find encoders |
| 18:03.24 | norbert_ | I don't understand what you're saying, you might want to try #vlc, as jpinx-eeepc suggested |
| 18:03.36 | iandoh | transcoding as in, encoding |
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| 18:04.46 | norbert_ | transcoding is conversion of one encoding to another |
| 18:04.50 | iandoh | yes |
| 18:04.50 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 18:04.59 | norbert_ | so in order to understand what you mean, you'd have to mention two types |
| 18:05.09 | lesouvage | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.10 | iandoh | input: Mpeg-2 TS stream |
| 18:05.34 | iandoh | output: wmv, mpeg-1, divx (tried all) and nothing coems out or if it does, it just plays the source back |
| 18:05.41 | iandoh | at the orginal source bitraqte |
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| 18:06.16 | norbert_ | iandoh: try: ffmpeg -i in.mpg -sameq out.avi |
| 18:06.33 | iandoh | thats the problem |
| 18:06.35 | iandoh | i cant install ffmpeg |
| 18:06.49 | norbert_ | then use: mencoder in.mpg -o out.avi -ovc copy -oac copy |
| 18:06.59 | iandoh | when i goto do that, it tells me that i need to remove vlc to do it, im trying to stream not end up with a local file |
| 18:07.05 | iandoh | cant use menoder either |
| 18:07.12 | norbert_ | then join #vlc |
| 18:07.14 | norbert_ | this is #debian |
| 18:07.23 | norbert_ | good luck :) |
| 18:07.55 | iandoh | ive joined |
| 18:08.21 | iandoh | i do apt-get install mplauyer it says |
| 18:08.21 | iandoh | The following packages will be REMOVED |
| 18:08.21 | iandoh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:08.55 | Z4ndX | Hello.. Any one know a good program for showing system info... With shell ofc |
| 18:08.57 | Z4ndX | ? |
| 18:09.05 | norbert_ | iandoh: add to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 18:09.09 | norbert_ | then run: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 18:09.17 | rozie | Z4ndX: define system info |
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| 18:09.59 | Z4ndX | Like RAM usage, users logged in, heat, CPU usage and so on |
| 18:10.00 | iandoh | i need a key for backports |
| 18:10.07 | norbert_ | and then use: apt-get -t lenny-backports install mplayer |
| 18:10.21 | norbert_ | add the key with: wget -O - http://backports.org/debian/archive.key | apt-key add - |
| 18:10.36 | Z4ndX | Kinda lige PHPsysinfo just in shell and not on webserver |
| 18:10.58 | lesouvage | My idea is to have ssh not running by default and calling in the Asterisk server running on the server and pick the proper (hidden) choice from the voicemenu to start the sshd running before I want to login. This seems pretty safe, not protecting the door but simply remove it. But I can't stop and start sshd so I can't turn theory into practice. |
| 18:11.25 | iandoh | The following packages have unmet dependencies. |
| 18:11.25 | iandoh | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.40 | iandoh | but i cant install libavcodec as it removes vlc |
| 18:11.44 | iandoh | its like a no win |
| 18:11.52 | lesouvage | When I'm done the idea is to call in to stop the sshd so noboddy can login. |
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| 18:12.47 | mavhc | wouldn't port knocking be better? |
| 18:12.50 | Theoden | http://98.234.161.226/Digital-Symphony.png |
| 18:12.58 | norbert_ | iandoh: installing libavcodec51 _removes_ vlc? |
| 18:13.01 | iandoh | yes |
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| 18:13.06 | norbert_ | iandoh: I'm sorry, I can't help you any further |
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| 18:14.16 | iandoh | what if i complied vlc on its own |
| 18:14.21 | iandoh | without apt-get would that avoid the problem |
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| 18:21.31 | et | i remember that there was a way to stop services from starting after installation via policy-rc.d - does someone know what i'm talking about and can point me to some documentation? |
| 18:22.45 | fxiny | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.47 | et | fxiny: not init stuff |
| 18:24.07 | et | fxiny: packages have the habit of directly starting after installation, that's what i want to prevent |
| 18:24.15 | fxiny | et: take samba , stop the service first /etc/init.d/samba stop , then run update-rc.d -f samba remove |
| 18:24.34 | et | fxiny: that's not what i'm after |
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| 18:25.51 | et | aptitude install foo -> "Starting Foo service: foo." |
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| 18:26.06 | abrotman | et: you want it to not start when installing ? |
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| 18:26.24 | et | yes. |
| 18:26.31 | norbert_ | "The starting is done by the post-installation script in the package, so you'll need to modify that script and build a new package. (Or maybe file-roller can modify files within packages.)" |
| 18:27.11 | mrtn1232 | is there a possibility to set up Linux RAID1(mdadm) during the installation of Debian? Or should it be done after the installation? |
| 18:27.25 | abrotman | et: not really esaily done |
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| 18:27.55 | xxtjaxx | Uhmm can you help me with a packageing issue aboput cpack ? http://pastebin.com/m4fb32547 this is the debian packaging part but cpack says it doesnt have a project name whats wrong?= |
| 18:28.03 | enouf | smarf: yikes |
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| 18:28.47 | enouf | maybe their name was smurf |
| 18:28.54 | enouf | or smores |
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| 18:31.08 | norbert_ | et: you could temporarily rename invoke-rc.d |
| 18:31.24 | norbert_ | the postinst script calls it as a last command |
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| 18:31.41 | norbert_ | it's hard-wired, but if invoke-rc.d isn't there it can't run |
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| 18:31.46 | tanto | do i want to use apt-get or aptitude on debian?? |
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| 18:31.52 | ajavid | aptitude |
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| 18:31.54 | norbert_ | tanto: aptitude |
| 18:32.08 | tanto | i'm not understanding the differences between them, why is aptitude better? |
| 18:32.15 | norbert_ | !apt-get |
| 18:32.15 | dpkg | apt-get is a program (part of the apt package) used as a simple command line tool to libapt. apt-get is the most used front-end for <apt>. See also <aptitude>, <reference>, <synaptic>, <apt-cache>. http://wiki.debian.org/apt-get |
| 18:32.16 | tanto | aren't the packages pulled from the same repos? |
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| 18:32.25 | ajavid | !tell tanto -about why aptitude |
| 18:32.36 | norbert_ | right :) |
| 18:32.50 | tanto | great, thanks |
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| 18:34.41 | jair | hello |
| 18:34.49 | jair | sorry :-) |
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| 18:38.45 | enouf | et: how about debconf? that desn't handle that? |
| 18:39.10 | jair | I have one of the latest thinkcentre desktops with a network adapter intel (pci-e) and the netinst can recognize the network adapter... |
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| 18:39.54 | abrotman | !tell jair about kmuto |
| 18:39.55 | rozie | jair: which installer do you use? |
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| 18:40.17 | rozie | usb netinstall has problems even with e1000 |
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| 18:41.23 | gumbox | What package do I have to install to get the keyboard(4) man page? |
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| 18:41.55 | jair | I am sorry I got disconnected can you repeat that? |
| 18:42.08 | abrotman | !tell jair about kmuto |
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| 18:42.23 | jair | I am running an irc client on my iPhone ;-) |
| 18:42.31 | rozie | 20:45 < rozie> usb netinstall has problems even with e1000 |
| 18:42.40 | jair | ohhh I almost met him actually ;-) |
| 18:42.47 | xxtjaxx | Uhmm can you help me with a packageing issue aboput cpack ? http://pastebin.com/m4fb32547 this is the debian packaging part but cpack says it doesnt have a project name whats wrong?= |
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| 18:42.51 | luke3321 | This question may make no sense, but does KDE4 use dcop or dbus? |
| 18:43.18 | jair | abrotman I was in japan for two weeks but he was in Spain at the debconf |
| 18:43.47 | jair | abrotman I will send him an email then. |
| 18:44.00 | abrotman | did you actally read what the bot said ? |
| 18:44.08 | rozie | jair: just use his installer |
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| 18:44.48 | BCM43 | hey, when installing on an aspire one i get the error "the attempt to mount a file system with type ext3 in SCSI3 (0,0,0), partion #1 (sdb) at / failed." How can I fix this? |
| 18:44.57 | jair | nope I haven't abrotman I am running a limited irc client from my iPhone while I am in a bus going to the beach to play volleyball ;-) |
| 18:45.08 | abrotman | so why would you ask us now? |
| 18:45.50 | cahoot | grounding? |
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| 18:46.30 | jair | abrotman just checking to see if anyone have use or know about a solution for my issue, and it looks like I will be using the kmuto-san netinstaller |
| 18:46.58 | rozie | jair: you can boot knoppix and install with debootstrap |
| 18:47.02 | rozie | (probably |
| 18:47.03 | rozie | ) |
| 18:47.19 | rozie | jair: what's the driver for this card? |
| 18:47.36 | jair | why you and some other experience debian users are in such a bad mood all the time I fucking hate that. that is not good for new debian users. I am not that new but I am talking for others |
| 18:48.07 | jair | rozie let me get the exact driver name |
| 18:48.24 | maligor | bad mood? |
| 18:48.29 | rozie | jair: why bad mood? |
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| 18:48.31 | hacker_kid | i understand how to create basic ip failover with heartbeat, does anyone know how to create dual-ipfailover ie each node is master and slave |
| 18:48.53 | jair | I am talking to abrotman about the bad mood. others can ignore the message |
| 18:49.07 | \amethyst | bad mood? |
| 18:49.11 | rozie | jair: suggesting knoppix is not a bad mood. it's getting things done |
| 18:49.15 | \amethyst | you asked him for help and ignored his answer twice |
| 18:49.26 | \amethyst | because you don't know how to use your IRC client |
| 18:49.41 | rozie | jair: tell the new to use google first. it may help a lot |
| 18:49.44 | abrotman | jair: you didn't read what the bot told you .. i'm not in a bad mood .. but you came here to ask questions totally unprepared to use the answer .. thanks for playing |
| 18:49.58 | jair | let's focus and not start drama. focus on debian and helping others |
| 18:50.18 | jair | I apologize |
| 18:50.27 | rozie | being helpdesk all the time is not very funny, especially if answer is on first google results page |
| 18:50.31 | BCM43 | hugs everbody |
| 18:50.39 | gumbox | that's what they were doing 'til you got all wife on them, jair |
| 18:50.41 | jair | I am trying to do my best with a limited irc client |
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| 18:51.08 | jair | again I apologize let's focus |
| 18:51.38 | abrotman | we did .. you can't even figure out how to read a msg |
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| 18:51.41 | jair | the driver rozie is the latest one from intel I can't remember if it was e1000e |
| 18:51.47 | gumbox | ok.. so what package installs the keyboard(4) and mouse(4) man pages? |
| 18:52.13 | jair | /me ignore non debian related messages |
| 18:52.25 | BCM43 | hey, when installing on an aspire one i get the error "the attempt to mount a file system with type ext3 in SCSI3 (0,0,0), partion #1 (sdb) at / failed." How can I fix this? |
| 18:52.29 | vmx | hi. is there a config file or an env variable to set the architecture dpkg-buildpackage uses? |
| 18:52.54 | enouf | BCM43: edit /etc/fstab? |
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| 18:53.16 | gumbox | the type must be wrong, BCM43 use 'sudo fdisk -l' to see the partitions and types |
| 18:53.54 | BCM43 | enouf: gumbox: it has not even started an install, just started to partition. |
| 18:54.11 | enouf | compare with blkid, dmesg, and file -s /dev/nameX output |
| 18:54.22 | jair | rozie, and I actually tried to build the .deb and install it on the debian thinkcentre box but I needed make and gcc and the current netinst does not have those packages. so I guess I can try using the DVDs CDs for debian or use kmuto-san installer |
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| 18:55.24 | enouf | oh, it's attempting to use that as it's '/' .. maybe you didn't the installer to wipe/convert it ? are you in rescue mode? try expert mode |
| 18:55.38 | enouf | which installer? |
| 18:55.57 | BCM43 | enouf: netinstall |
| 18:56.22 | enouf | the message doesn't sound debian - and scsi3 isn't a typo? |
| 18:56.44 | BCM43 | enouf: no, no typo, internal ssd, 8gb |
| 18:57.29 | enouf | ahh.. hrm which module do you need for that controller? |
| 18:57.32 | jair | BCM43 are you doing a fresh istall using netinst Lenny 5.0.2? |
| 18:57.44 | enouf | listvals acer |
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| 18:57.47 | enouf | !listvals acer |
| 18:57.49 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'acer' by value (15 of 20): acerone ;; ask-sp ;; cacert ;; dnsutils ;; mtr ;; netbook ;; netselect ;; netselect-apt ;; planetpenguin-racer ;; povray ;; ppracer ;; soyuz ;; tracert ;; tuxracer ;; xracer. |
| 18:57.54 | enouf | !acerone |
| 18:57.55 | dpkg | The Aspire One netbook is a low-cost laptop PC manufactured by Acer. Models supplied with Linux are shipped with the <Linpus> Linux Lite operating system and are not supported in #debian. To install Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne for installation, configuration and troubleshooting instructions. |
| 18:58.01 | BCM43 | jair: yes. this happens with other distos too, and is new. |
| 18:58.21 | enouf | Linpus? oomPAHloomPAH ? |
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| 18:58.28 | jair | BCM43 |
| 18:58.29 | karrotx | i need bruteforce detection for debian |
| 18:58.32 | BCM43 | this was xp originaly |
| 18:58.32 | karrotx | what do you recommend? |
| 18:59.12 | enouf | BCM43: have you tried debian.exe ? |
| 18:59.17 | enouf | !debian.exe |
| 18:59.17 | dpkg | debian.exe is a debian-installer loader for win32. It installs Debian as default; it installs grub for NT on C drive, then downloads the netboot kernel/initrd.gz from debian.org, and creates entries in boot.ini to load grub/menu.lst. Available at http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/. Also ask me about <ig> <setup.exe> or see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Loader |
| 18:59.25 | CcSsNET | fail2ban, iptables, psad, or portsentry |
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| 18:59.37 | jair | BCM43 so you go through the istallation process and you are having error messges while you are on the partitioning phase of the installer? |
| 18:59.42 | enouf | but anyways BCM43 how about that wiki pages |
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| 18:59.53 | BCM43 | enouf: it no longer has windows on it |
| 19:00.04 | BCM43 | jair: yes |
| 19:00.13 | enouf | i already figured - heh ; hence my wiki comment that dpkg told us |
| 19:00.46 | BCM43 | enouf: I have already installed debian on it just fine, then wiped it, tried some other distos, then tried debian again. |
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| 19:00.56 | jair | BCM43 are you telling the installer to assist you with the partioning or you are doing manual partitioning? |
| 19:01.10 | careta | is there a way to de-install some packages with aptitude, save that list of packages and re-install them later? |
| 19:01.44 | BCM43 | jair: I habe tried both, when I tell fdisk to write it returns fdisk printout: âCalling ioctl() to re-read partition table. WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busyâ then does nothing on reboot |
| 19:02.04 | jair | careta you can save the result of dpkg -l >> somefile and then work with the packages. |
| 19:02.13 | hiwk | careta: may I ask why? |
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| 19:02.49 | dvs | careta: dpkg --get-selections; dpkg --set-selections |
| 19:02.55 | careta | i need to de-install a .dev package to test something and it will de-install a lot of other .dev packages |
| 19:02.55 | etFIX | with an old kernel (2.6.24) i got nice decimal values for zone pfn ranges (in syslog), now with newer kernels there's a hex-value.. is this is a kernel change thing or it can be configured somewhere? does anyone know? |
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| 19:03.36 | jair | BCM43 I think you want to do a cold power off of the system boot with a live cd fdisk and delete all partitions then powerboff again and boot from the netinst again. |
| 19:03.45 | hiwk | careta: if you do something like "aptitude remove foo" and it suggests to remove bar1, bar2 and so on, it is usually because bar* is a dependency to foo |
| 19:03.48 | enouf | indeed dvs - or grep-{status,available} etc .. or aptitude -- careta you might like to install aptitude-doc-en and view the html docs |
| 19:04.08 | BCM43 | jair: tried |
| 19:04.11 | hiwk | careta: and as such, those will automatically be installed when you do aptitude install foo |
| 19:04.55 | BCM43 | jair it seems the disk is write protected. |
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| 19:05.30 | enouf | careta: you might want to mark some pkgs as manually installed, so /msg dpkg unmarkauto |
| 19:05.32 | jair | BCM43 is this something that can be changed in the bios of your machine? |
| 19:05.48 | BCM43 | jair not that I know of |
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| 19:06.59 | jair | hmm never had that type of issue my friend if i was you I will check in google for acer disk wrprotected and see what they did to make it writable again |
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| 19:08.12 | jair | I am close to my destination so I will be logging off soon. I will be back later and Monday with updates on the kmuto installer on the thinkcentre desktop. |
| 19:08.32 | jair | this is a 64bit desktop btw |
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| 19:09.50 | enouf | BCM43: you should perhaps consider dd and /dev/zero the disk out |
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| 19:09.55 | jair | talk to you all later |
| 19:10.31 | hacker_kid | anyone know how to build a dual master cluster with heartbeat? |
| 19:10.32 | enouf | BCM43: also - find out which controller module you need loaded |
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| 19:10.48 | wald0 | im trying to update the upstream of the nvidia package, but i get an error with the debian/rules file, can somebody help me ? |
| 19:10.52 | wald0 | or where i should ask ? |
| 19:11.05 | enouf | !debian/rules |
| 19:11.06 | dpkg | the makefile that's used when building a .deb from source. Edit debian/rules to change compilation options. Be aware that some packages use sophisticated build systems that should be documented in debian/README.source. Also remember to make a new entry in debian/changelog with "~yourname" (for a backport) or "+yourname" (for a recompile) added to the version number. Also ask me about <hold> <package recompile> <source>. |
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| 19:12.42 | Tagor | How can I delate a directory with the current day-number? |
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| 19:13.05 | wald0 | echo $(date +%F) |
| 19:13.25 | master_of_master | hi, how can I use/try a -dbg package? |
| 19:13.37 | Tagor | Ok so it will be rm -rf $(date +%F) ? |
| 19:13.58 | hiwk | Tagor: nononono |
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| 19:14.28 | Tagor | What else? |
| 19:14.31 | hiwk | Tagor: read about 'find' |
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| 19:15.46 | happy | can someone help me? I have a text file that has some characters in it that are not even unicode. Is there a way to remove all characters that do not exist in a text file? |
| 19:16.02 | hiwk | Tagor: somthineg like find [path] -Xtime [time] -exec echo rm \{\} \; except -Xtime should be something else |
| 19:16.19 | hiwk | Tagor: and when you are satisfied with the output, remove echo |
| 19:17.02 | hiwk | Tagor: alternatively, if you just have one folder, you might do some innovative grep-ing on the ls -l output and use that as an input to rm |
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| 19:17.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's -newer |
| 19:18.21 | Tagor | Thanks :) |
| 19:18.39 | enouf | master_of_master: install it? look at output of dpkg -L <pkgname> |
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| 19:20.44 | master_of_master | enouf: I've done that, but the files aren't executable |
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| 19:21.16 | enouf | how about the README - no info? |
| 19:21.46 | enouf | are "the files" supposed to be executable? |
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| 19:22.47 | wald0 | how where i can send/upload a new upstream version of a debian package ? |
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| 19:25.16 | master_of_master | enouf: yes, asterisk should be executable. |
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| 19:25.32 | enouf | so make it so |
| 19:25.46 | enouf | wald0: /msg dpkg mentors |
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| 19:28.51 | enouf | i'm guessing you'd need to recompile the binaries to include symbols |
| 19:29.28 | enouf | if file `which binary` says stripped, that'd be the case in most cases |
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| 19:29.57 | enouf | master_of_master: ^^^^ |
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| 19:31.16 | KeiKurono | is there a .deb of zend studio or aptana? :/ |
| 19:31.44 | Cynope | KeiKurono, use VIM! :D |
| 19:32.05 | Cynope | Don't you dare to use those Java IDEs... |
| 19:32.18 | KeiKurono | Cynope, they are bad? |
| 19:32.44 | craigevil | KeiKurono: no but you can mkae one > http://www.aptana.com/dev/index.php/Creating_a_Debian_Aptana_IDE_package |
| 19:32.53 | craigevil | make* |
| 19:32.53 | KeiKurono | vim as php-js support too? |
| 19:32.59 | KeiKurono | craigevil, thanks, i pass :) |
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| 19:33.20 | Cynope | Oc. I use it for my Zend Projects. |
| 19:34.27 | Cynope | Keikurono, It's a lot lighter than those IDE's and if you are patient you can add 70% of features of those IDEs to VIM |
| 19:34.28 | KeiKurono | i need syntax checkes |
| 19:34.39 | n-iCe_ | is the flash link working? |
| 19:34.40 | n-iCe_ | http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz |
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| 19:35.11 | Cynope | er... It doesn't do Syntax check unfortunatly, but it doest have syntax highlighting, a little bit of intellisense... Project feature |
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| 19:35.51 | KeiKurono | Cynope, i used aptana in windows i felt comfortable with it |
| 19:36.19 | Cynope | KeiKurono: Good then :) I just can't stand Java IDEs they are way too heavy for me. |
| 19:36.52 | KeiKurono | Cynope, as soon as i wil not needed syntax checkes i think i 'll switch to vim, but to noob for that now |
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| 19:39.12 | KeiKurono | i have either gnome and gtk libs, should i download vim-gnome or vim-gtk ? :/ |
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| 19:43.04 | Cyr | Hi, I am trying to connect a Canon Powershot G10 to my computer via USB to download my pictures... |
| 19:43.29 | Cyr | I can't get any block device to mount... |
| 19:43.53 | Cyr | Can anyone help me? |
| 19:44.53 | Cyr | When I run udev in debug mode, I can see the following message: |
| 19:44.56 | Cyr | [14138] run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' (stderr) 'FATAL: Module usb:v04A9p318Fd0002dc00dsc00dp00ic06isc01ip01 not found. |
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| 19:45.09 | Cyr | Does it ring a bell to someone? |
| 19:45.27 | macrobat | KeiKurono: vim-gtk is what i use, it is gvim |
| 19:46.06 | maligor | Cyr, gphoto2 would support that, I don't know if you can mount it as normal mass storage |
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| 19:46.33 | macrobat | aslo the colorsamplerpack: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=625 |
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| 19:47.37 | Cyr | maligor: I'll try that right now :-) |
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| 19:48.05 | daf999 | How can I find documentation for things like: net.ipv6.neigh.eth1.base_reachable_time_ms |
| 19:48.28 | owner_ | Hi guys, I'm compiling zoneminder and seem to have trouble with dependencies, as it needs libgnutls-dev for which apt returns "Depends: libgnutls26 (= 2.4.2-6+lenny1) but 2.6.6-1 is to be installed". I'm on lenny stable... any suggestions please? |
| 19:48.50 | abrotman | sounds like you've been mixing versions of debian |
| 19:48.55 | dvs | Cyr: Try "update-usbids" |
| 19:49.00 | macrobat | i take the memory card out of the camera and use a card reader for it |
| 19:50.02 | Cyr | macrobat: yes but my 10$ internal card reader is (naturally) broken :-/ |
| 19:50.33 | Cynope | KeiKurono: Which ever your prefer, I use gtk. |
| 19:50.54 | macrobat | :( i got a cheap usb one, Cyr |
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| 19:51.15 | Tagor | How can I prevent a command in a .sh file to output information? |
| 19:51.20 | owner_ | abrotman: i believe i haven't. is there anything i can do to check for/resolve this? |
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| 19:51.46 | dvs | macrobat: what's wrong with that? I have a "cheap" USB one and an internal one. The internal one can't read SDHC cards |
| 19:52.24 | macrobat | Tagor: redirection script.sh > /dev/null |
| 19:52.39 | abrotman | owner_: apt-cache policy foo |
| 19:53.34 | owner_ | abrotman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/244509/ |
| 19:53.44 | macrobat | dvs, its not wrong :) a good thing is that i dont use the batteries in the camera while i transfer pics |
| 19:53.52 | daf999 | how to get documentation for sysctl parameters? |
| 19:54.26 | abrotman | owner_: it's asking about libgnutls26 |
| 19:54.35 | dvs | macrobat: Oh. I thought you meant that the internal ones are better than the USB ones. |
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| 19:54.40 | themill | owner_: perhaps you could pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" for us |
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| 19:55.36 | owner_ | abrotman: that's what i'm trying to install.. sorry, I actually launched 'apt-cache policy libgnutls-dev'... here's plain 'apt-chache policy |
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| 19:56.04 | owner_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/244516/ |
| 19:56.29 | owner_ | and my sources... http://paste.ubuntu.com/244514/ |
| 19:56.42 | Cyr | dvs: update-usbids didn't help |
| 19:56.49 | Cyr | dvs: file "/var/lib/usbutils/usb.ids" goes up to PowerShot G9 not G10 |
| 19:56.51 | Cyr | dvs: If I can help updating this file... |
| 19:56.52 | dvs | rats |
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| 19:57.03 | abrotman | that's not the whole file |
| 19:57.03 | Cyr | maligor: Could gphotofs help me mount a block device from my Canon PowerShot G10? |
| 19:57.10 | abrotman | erm .. whole output |
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| 19:57.39 | maligor | Cyr, I guess |
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| 19:58.30 | owner_ | abrotman: this really is all i get? http://paste.ubuntu.com/244520/ should there be more? |
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| 19:59.06 | doudou | hi, i changed my monitor, and now it says cant display this video mode |
| 19:59.34 | abrotman | owner_: apt-cache policy libgnutls26 |
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| 20:01.15 | owner_ | abrotman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/244532/ |
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| 20:02.42 | Cyr | maligor: gphoto2 goes up to PowerShot G9... What's the problem with this cam?? |
| 20:03.22 | maligor | too old gphoto2 I suppose |
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| 20:03.32 | maligor | the gphoto2 website list has PowerShot G10 |
| 20:03.34 | abrotman | owner_: looks like you installed that package manually |
| 20:05.50 | Cyr | maligor: ok. I think I got it. A simple "gphoto2 --auto-detect" found it as a general PTP camera... I'm already seing the thumbnails in gtkam :-) |
| 20:06.40 | owner_ | abrotman: I can't remember. Should I remove it and try installing libgnutls-dev again? |
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| 20:07.36 | abrotman | yes if you can |
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| 20:09.22 | Cyr | sh*t: "Problem Getting 'IMG_0001.JPG' from folder '/store_0010001/DCIM/100CANON'" |
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| 20:10.07 | n215 | is debian best linux dist ? |
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| 20:10.47 | OpenTokix | yes |
| 20:10.48 | owner_ | abrotman: wow.. I'm not so sure that's what I wan't! http://paste.ubuntu.com/244544/ ? |
| 20:10.56 | Cyr | yes |
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| 20:12.05 | Cyr | Ok... Downloading 531 pictures :-) |
| 20:12.11 | Cyr | thanks for the help :-) |
| 20:12.43 | stone_ | yes |
| 20:12.55 | abrotman | owner_: try using aptitude instead |
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| 20:15.56 | mreh | Package libxul0d is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 20:15.56 | mreh | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 20:15.56 | mreh | is only available from another source |
| 20:16.00 | owner_ | abrotman: that looks better, should i accept this? is it going to downgrade by itself or do i need to do that manually? also, should i use aptitude instead of apt-get in the future to avoid similar issues? |
| 20:16.02 | smacnay | Is aptitude temporarily broken due to dependency issues? |
| 20:16.08 | smacnay | Or is this permanent? |
| 20:16.09 | owner_ | abrotman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/244551/ |
| 20:16.10 | mreh | how can I diagnose what the problem is with this message? |
| 20:16.16 | abrotman | it's going to have to downgrade it |
| 20:16.23 | abrotman | owner_: and yes .. normally use aptitude |
| 20:16.30 | smacnay | oops - I will read what is being typed above |
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| 20:19.27 | owner_ | abrotman: very well done... Thanks for your help! |
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| 20:23.36 | GNU_LOVER | hi, i change my network LAN, and restart the router and the system but can't connect to internet, must i reconfigure DHCP or network to connection or any another solution? |
| 20:25.01 | GNU_LOVER | :( |
| 20:25.03 | nsadmin | GNU_LOVER: first, and in detail, |
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| 20:25.12 | nsadmin | what exactly did you change? |
| 20:25.19 | ranix | dhclient, run it |
| 20:25.40 | MooseMorals | is there a command that will suspend a system from text mode? |
| 20:26.09 | GNU_LOVER | nsadmin: i have anew LAND card the old network card used for another PC |
| 20:26.37 | nsadmin | what's a LAND card? |
| 20:26.42 | GNU_LOVER | LAN |
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| 20:26.51 | nsadmin | so an ethernet card? |
| 20:26.53 | Tapout | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:26.58 | GNU_LOVER | nsadmin: yes |
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| 20:27.06 | nsadmin | ok, is it working? |
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| 20:27.12 | GNU_LOVER | no |
| 20:27.19 | nsadmin | so that's the first thing... |
| 20:27.24 | GNU_LOVER | the light is green is connected |
| 20:27.30 | GNU_LOVER | but no connection |
| 20:27.30 | nsadmin | is it for the inside or outside? |
| 20:27.37 | GNU_LOVER | what? |
| 20:27.58 | nsadmin | looks like I need more info... |
| 20:28.10 | KeiKurono | as expected aptana won't run... :/ |
| 20:28.24 | nsadmin | so this new lan card is in what machine? |
| 20:28.24 | GNU_LOVER | nsadmin: what? my question is clear |
| 20:28.40 | GNU_LOVER | network caqrd changed but have no connection. |
| 20:28.47 | GNU_LOVER | what is more? |
| 20:28.50 | smacnay | where oh where did libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6-4.7 go? Oh where oh where can it be? :) It took aptitude with it. :( |
| 20:28.53 | nsadmin | I need the shape of your net and the names of the involved boxes |
| 20:29.19 | nsadmin | the names don't have to be real as long as they're constant while we're conversing |
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| 20:29.54 | KeiKurono | i've installed aptana from his site, the process start but hang up with the aptana studio logo.. how can i solve it? |
| 20:30.08 | GNU_LOVER | nsadmin: i think that hat nothing to do with my question. fo example you have pc and you change the network card to anew one but you have no connection. what must recofigured again? |
| 20:30.39 | abrotman | KeiKurono: maybe ask the author ? |
| 20:30.41 | nsadmin | you need the driver at least |
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| 20:30.56 | GNU_LOVER | which driver, i have no connection |
| 20:31.09 | GNU_LOVER | what with driver?? |
| 20:31.15 | nsadmin | I really have no idea, you're blocking information |
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| 20:31.51 | GNU_LOVER | nsadmin: you have no idea, that is true |
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| 20:32.42 | straw | Hey, I see that in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases much longer and less ituitional aliases are created. Why? Which sybsytem is using these? |
| 20:32.45 | kinneh | hi all, how do I figure out the difference between debian policy 3.7.3 and 3.8.2 ? |
| 20:32.58 | GNU_LOVER | any idea? |
| 20:33.03 | nsadmin | you don't give specific information, you decide whether to volunteer info or not, and you have the gall to tell me what I know? |
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| 20:33.17 | GNU_LOVER | nsadmin: wtf, !!? |
| 20:33.27 | nsadmin | either come across with the information I requested or ask someone else |
| 20:34.05 | GNU_LOVER | I HAVE CHAGED MY NETWORK lan CARDE TO ANEW ONE, AND HAVE NO CONNECTION. THE CONNECTION IS dhcp DON'T NEED DRIVER |
| 20:34.16 | KeiKurono | abrotman, don't think the aptana team will ever reply to me... |
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| 20:34.38 | beardy | TURN ON CRUISE CONTROL. |
| 20:34.46 | WastePotato | beardy: Lmao. |
| 20:35.35 | abrotman | GNU_LOVER: do you know which driver is for your new card ? |
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| 20:36.16 | cahoot | udev at work? |
| 20:36.19 | GNU_LOVER | abrotman: this network card was on another pc for some dayes, without problem, plugin and finish |
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| 20:36.25 | abrotman | GNU_LOVER: do you know which driver is for your new card ? |
| 20:36.32 | mrtn1232 | is lspci able to show PCI-E devices as well? |
| 20:36.41 | abrotman | mrtn1232: it should |
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| 20:36.55 | GNU_LOVER | ididnøt need driver,is DHCP |
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| 20:37.05 | nsadmin | there -really- needs to be a paid section of this channel |
| 20:37.18 | abrotman | GNU_LOVER: the hardware driver for your card has nothing to do with it being configured as static or dhcp |
| 20:37.23 | nsadmin | because if I'm going to get crap, I want to be paid |
| 20:37.32 | abrotman | nsadmin: you can always step away |
| 20:37.38 | GNU_LOVER | abrotman: i have no internet what with driver? |
| 20:37.55 | GNU_LOVER | why the same card with same debian version worked on another PC? |
| 20:38.24 | cahoot | got another eth*? |
| 20:38.29 | GNU_LOVER | without extra driver!?? |
| 20:38.48 | abrotman | GNU_LOVER: did you look through 'dmesg' ? |
| 20:38.55 | nsadmin | GNU_LOVER: it possibly will... but until you tell him what he wants to know, he won't be able to rule out possibilities that you came here to get help with |
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| 20:40.54 | GNU_LOVER | the network is on board "Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX" |
| 20:40.56 | nsadmin | my problem with you is you're acting like you can be abusive as if you have paid support... this is volunteers, and you don't have paid support here (I happen to have mixed feelings about that) |
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| 20:41.01 | abrotman | GNU_LOVER: you're still not answering my questoins |
| 20:41.22 | GNU_LOVER | abrotman: the funy think if i turn of my lapetop with wireless worked fine |
| 20:41.27 | straw | What part of Debian (or Linux subsystem) is using the longer aliases from /etc/modprobe.d/aliases? |
| 20:41.33 | abrotman | okay .. then don't answer the questions |
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| 20:41.50 | GNU_LOVER | but if the lapetop connected to same router i have on pc no connection more!!? |
| 20:42.02 | GNU_LOVER | which question? |
| 20:42.10 | abrotman | i've asked you two questions now .. neither of which you've answered |
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| 20:42.42 | GNU_LOVER | abrotman: i can't see you question, srry |
| 20:42.54 | abrotman | okay |
| 20:42.57 | nsadmin | then scroll up :) |
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| 20:43.22 | GNU_LOVER | abrotman: yes i see dmesg |
| 20:43.28 | Arie01 | is /etc/network/interfaces the only config file? |
| 20:43.46 | abrotman | GNU_LOVER: maybe you should try reading it |
| 20:44.28 | Arie01 | where the default gateway can be set |
| 20:44.28 | nsadmin | Arie01: no, look in /etc for lots more config files |
| 20:44.28 | GNU_LOVER | nsadmin: as i said the funist think is worked if not connected to wireless with my laptop!! |
| 20:44.28 | GNU_LOVER | abrotman: is 100 line |
| 20:44.28 | abrotman | so? read it |
| 20:44.33 | nsadmin | does your wireless router have the same subnet as the wired? |
| 20:44.56 | GNU_LOVER | abrotman: what is so intressting in it? |
| 20:45.10 | GNU_LOVER | i see nothing without report the hardware and ..etc |
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| 20:45.15 | abrotman | GNU_LOVER: if you're not going to read it .. i'm not going to help you |
| 20:45.28 | KeiKurono | any suggestion? |
| 20:45.41 | GNU_LOVER | abrotman: and i'm really sure that you no answer |
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| 20:45.45 | Polarina | How do I change my keyboard layout to esperanto when the keyboard layout configuration in GNOME breaks? |
| 20:45.49 | nsadmin | 2 down... 987 to go... |
| 20:45.50 | abrotman | okay .. |
| 20:45.51 | GNU_LOVER | but you try to write somthing |
| 20:46.04 | GNU_LOVER | no idea like you partner nsadmin |
| 20:46.08 | GNU_LOVER | ok thnx |
| 20:46.28 | abrotman | GNU_LOVER: have fun |
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| 20:46.38 | cahoot | smil |
| 20:46.56 | GNU_LOVER | funy is "no idea and say read 100 line to nothing" |
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| 20:47.07 | GNU_LOVER | is not funy that your answer LOL |
| 20:47.19 | GNU_LOVER | than* |
| 20:47.42 | abrotman | you're not willing to give the answers that people need to help you .. |
| 20:48.01 | GNU_LOVER | abrotman: r u understand what i say"??????????????!! |
| 20:48.23 | GNU_LOVER | is fu***more than 100 lines which one or what is intresting? |
| 20:48.39 | nsadmin | read it and see |
| 20:48.43 | GNU_LOVER | you still say read the dmesg is nothing |
| 20:49.00 | GNU_LOVER | nsadmin: yeh yeh |
| 20:49.03 | nsadmin | but that's just one of the questions he asked |
| 20:49.28 | GNU_LOVER | wtf, which question again?? |
| 20:49.48 | Polarina | How do you change the keyboard layout in a terminal? |
| 20:49.55 | GNU_LOVER | i said " the connection worked if i not connected with other pc && laptops to internet"" |
| 20:49.57 | nsadmin | see for yourself... it's in your scrollback, I guess |
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| 20:50.11 | GNU_LOVER | any one understand this F*** problem!? |
| 20:50.16 | straw | I don't mean to be rude, but couldn't you just stop ranting and help the others? |
| 20:50.43 | owner_ | abrotman: sorry to bug you again. i can't get my head around this one. ever since the downgrade, i can't start my apache2. it gives 'apache2/usr/sbin/apache2: error while loading shared libraries: libkrb5.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' I can't find anything on this... |
| 20:51.11 | abrotman | owner_: /msg dpkg apt-file |
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| 20:51.24 | abrotman | owner_: find the package that owns that file |
| 20:51.41 | nsadmin | straw: did you have something you wanted to ask about? |
| 20:51.51 | straw | Yes :] |
| 20:51.55 | straw | What part of Debian (or Linux subsystem) is using the longer aliases from /etc/modprobe.d/aliases? |
| 20:52.20 | GNU_LOVER | nsadmin: i read it again , you L*** is no question that i have not answered before |
| 20:52.23 | nsadmin | the module loader |
| 20:52.43 | nsadmin | specifically modprobe |
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| 20:52.56 | straw | hmm |
| 20:53.28 | straw | Why isn't modprobe just using the shorter real module names? Like 'wire' instead of 'net-pf-16-proto-1'? |
| 20:53.46 | nsadmin | are you trying to accomplish somethign specific right now? |
| 20:54.06 | straw | Not really, I just wonder what's the real reason for this file. |
| 20:54.27 | nsadmin | the names like net-pf-16-proto-1 come from the kernel and are autogenerated... |
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| 20:54.45 | straw | so wire is the alias? |
| 20:55.07 | nsadmin | sometimes you can have a choice as to which module you want handling (for example) net-pf-16-proto-1 |
| 20:55.51 | owner_ | abrotman: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/244632/ .. I don't have the -dbg installed but already tried removing/reinstalling the libkrb53 package and that didn't help... |
| 20:56.06 | nsadmin | sometimes you can have differing hardware, and modprobe would try to load the appropriate module... but it's not an autodetector and so you have to configure it |
| 20:56.12 | abrotman | owner_: does the file actually exist ? |
| 20:56.40 | straw | nsadmin: ah, I see. Thank you! |
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| 20:57.32 | fas3r | mkinitramfs and mkinitrd are the same command ? |
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| 20:58.19 | nsadmin | another example, is say an application generates sound... if the module isn't yet loaded, then modprobe could get the name SOUND-CARD-1 or something like that, look it up and load the module for that |
| 20:59.21 | owner_ | abrotman: it doesn't seem to ..http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/244642/ |
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| 20:59.59 | abrotman | owner_: aptitude reinstall libkrb53 |
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| 21:00.32 | nsadmin | straw: I hope I've communicated the basic concept |
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| 21:01.58 | owner_ | abrotman: once again, nicely done, sir! i guess i've got some reading-up to do on aptitude.... THANK YOU SO MUCH! |
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| 21:02.11 | abrotman | good plan |
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| 21:02.18 | fas3r | i don't find the command mkinitrd, mkinitamfs is the same ? |
| 21:02.20 | abrotman | it's nice when people actually read :) |
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| 21:02.44 | straw | fas3r: yes |
| 21:02.51 | fas3r | ok thank straw |
| 21:02.54 | nsadmin | fas3r: it might not be the same command but they both serve the same purpose |
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| 21:03.14 | straw | fas3r: mkinitramfs -o /boot/mkinitrd-2.6.30 /lib/modules/**** |
| 21:04.08 | fas3r | oki thank straw |
| 21:04.52 | nsadmin | mkinitramfs should be called for you when the kernel package is installed |
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| 21:05.36 | FuriousRage | a stupid question maybe, but can debian use an PCI-e atheros 1GBit network card "out of the box"? |
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| 21:06.27 | nsadmin | FuriousRage depends on: the specific chipset, the kernel you're running (since the kernel encapsulates the drivers) |
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| 21:07.46 | FuriousRage | nsadmin: its a "Atheros QR8121 / AR8113 / AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet controller" in the device manager in the computer its currently in |
| 21:07.48 | nsadmin | is the card installed right now in a running linux? |
| 21:08.34 | FuriousRage | s/qr/ar |
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| 21:08.58 | nsadmin | so AR8121? |
| 21:09.02 | FuriousRage | yes |
| 21:09.17 | exn | guys, is any replacement for "ingress" for tc ? maybe some trick.. |
| 21:09.23 | nsadmin | one thing that might be helpful is googling each one of those |
| 21:09.28 | rgr | Can anyone here recommend a tv/video capture card which works "out of the box" or with minimal building with Debian please. I want to catch and stream video live. |
| 21:09.39 | macrobat | Polarina: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "InputDevice" for keyboard, i have set Option "XkbLayout" "se" where se is swedish, i dont know what the two esperanto letters are |
| 21:10.12 | macrobat | oh, that will be hard to read :) |
| 21:10.32 | Polarina | macrobat: Is it possible to change without restarting X? I have two keyboard layouts I wish to use just as frequently. |
| 21:10.42 | cahoot | macrobat: epo? |
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| 21:10.55 | macrobat | Polarina: i suppose hal can do it |
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| 21:12.44 | macrobat | i think you copy /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi somewhere to /etc and edit it |
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| 21:13.07 | macrobat | then unplug and plug in your keyboard |
| 21:13.59 | tanto | anyone use shorewall with lenny? |
| 21:14.21 | tanto | i'm not sure how to make shorewall log, it's not writing to /var/log/messages or console |
| 21:14.53 | straw | nsadmin: I try to put it in a nutshell. "wire" is the normal module name. And net-pf-1-proto-1 is a from kernel autogenerated (and hardware-depending) let's call it 'Symbol'. So modprobe.d\s Alias commands are there for connecting both. Is that right so far? |
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| 21:15.32 | Ezep | Hello, I installed a foreign package from adobe, but it say me that I need a package called "iceape-plugin" and that package doesn't exits. When I try to purge adobe package, It say me that I have to install it first, And I cannot install anything else, here is a paste of the result: http://pastebin.ca/1515251 |
| 21:16.05 | macrobat | Polarina: you use the output of "hal-device | grep keyboard" to find something to put in your /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi |
| 21:16.26 | Polarina | o.O |
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| 21:17.37 | macrobat | Polarina: nevermind i found "setxkbmap" much easier :) |
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| 21:22.26 | Ezep | s/it/apt |
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| 21:29.24 | g00se | # |
| 21:29.24 | g00se | you should |
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| 21:29.32 | g00se | # reinstall it before attempting a removal. |
| 21:29.47 | g00se | Ezep: Did you? |
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| 21:34.20 | tanto | guys, i know someone here is using debian lenny + shorewall |
| 21:34.34 | tanto | i just need to figure out how the hell to make shorewall logging work, cuz debian lenny is doing something strange. |
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| 21:35.33 | dhiaeldeen | i have a wireless internet , and can not connect it to linux ,although it's working on my PSP well . |
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| 21:50.16 | daffidity | hi what is the dfifference between sudo, su and gksu? |
| 21:51.53 | g00se | I've been cutting the power suddenly to my 'BT Voyager 220V' router. Surely this can't be good for it? |
| 21:53.01 | Ezep | g00se: yes yes, but when I try to reinstall, apt say me that I need the package "iceape-plugin (or something like that", do you wanna an input? |
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| 21:54.31 | g00se | well try to do what it suggests |
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| 21:55.55 | Ezep | g00se: http://pastebin.ca/1516077 ,that was strange :| |
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| 21:59.05 | Ezep | g00se: forget it, it's solved, thanks :) |
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| 21:59.41 | fergal32 | hi |
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| 22:01.00 | g00se | Good |
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| 22:01.47 | mooneye | Is it possible to install a program locally as a non-root user? (Locally as in just for that one user) |
| 22:02.25 | racecar56 | where can i find Y, the replacement for X |
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| 22:03.32 | sladi | Hi! I just built a kernel lik this http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=17035&sid=8381095f6a49905d76b5c27f53584cb2 . It won't boot, there is a kernel panic because it can't load the / filesystem. |
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| 22:04.11 | kdasdasf | hi any good designer (html/css/photoshop) here? will pay for design |
| 22:04.18 | kdasdasf | any hints appreceated |
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| 22:04.28 | sladi | mooneye, AFAIK the program should have an installdir option durin 'configure' |
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| 22:05.32 | mooneye | I probably sound like a newb, but what's AFAIK? |
| 22:05.41 | cheako | Hello, my nautilus crashes every time I click on a desktop icon. Is there a way I can stop this but still keep my background? |
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| 22:05.43 | JPT | as far as i know = afaik |
| 22:05.51 | mooneye | OK |
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| 22:09.54 | sladi | I see it's a bug |
| 22:10.09 | sladi | decision |
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| 22:15.32 | valdyn | slummer: did you forget the --initrd switch? |
| 22:15.41 | valdyn | nm |
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| 22:30.11 | ewet | hi, is it possible to have sound in a xephyr box with alsa? |
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| 22:31.00 | macrobat | cheako: maybe you can start nautilus in a terminal and paste the error messages |
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| 22:32.11 | hacker_kid | is there anyway to failover two ips? ie if A fails pass A's ip to B, and if B fails pass B's ip to A? |
| 22:32.12 | macrobat | but i guess nautilus is started when you start gnome, right? |
| 22:32.18 | Polarina | How do I change subversion so it doesn't touch the GNOME keyring? |
| 22:32.43 | themill | Polarina: in what way is subversion touching the gnome keyring? |
| 22:33.03 | Polarina | themill: It's trying to use it when I store my password. |
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| 22:33.51 | ivank | i've installed gnome-do and gnome-do-plugins in unstable, and the gnome-do preferences can't see any plugins. has anyone solved a similar problem? |
| 22:33.56 | themill | Polarina: that's your ssh-askpass that's doing that (not svn) |
| 22:34.10 | Polarina | themill: How do I murder it? |
| 22:34.38 | dhiaeldeen | this room is not so active . |
| 22:34.55 | themill | !room |
| 22:34.56 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 22:35.05 | themill | Polarina: You could use a different ssh-askpass-fullscreen (or ssh-askpass, not sure which one is used in this case) |
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| 22:35.12 | dhiaeldeen | qcd : have i to enter something in DNS , i left it blank |
| 22:35.26 | Polarina | themill: No, I want svn to not use it. |
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| 22:35.51 | themill | Polarina: the you'll have to some how disconnect that shell from your ssh-agent |
| 22:36.01 | Polarina | How? |
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| 22:38.13 | themill | Polarina: if you export SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/lib/ssh/x11-ssh-askpass (or similar) that will proably work. |
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| 22:38.24 | magnuX | hello everyone |
| 22:38.47 | themill | Polarina: (that's actually using a different ssh-askpass so your ssh-agent will still work for you) |
| 22:39.13 | Polarina | themill: The reason I want to fix this is because it asks me for my keyring password and spams this message: "** (process:24162): WARNING **: couldn't connect to daemon at $GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET: /tmp/keyring-oA6JX1/socket: Connection refused" |
| 22:39.29 | magnuX | I had compile the kernel 2.6.30.4 with kernel-package but after rebooting I get this message when I try to boot with the new kernel |
| 22:39.43 | magnuX | lease append a correct "root=" boot option. Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
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| 22:41.12 | themill | Polarina: nfc about that... don't use gnome at all, let along gnome keyring. |
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| 22:42.24 | pipeline | magnuX: bad initrd or otherwise missing driver |
| 22:43.25 | magnuX | pipeline, I am thinking about the missing driver too |
| 22:43.52 | magnuX | pipeline, but I have selected all the ATA-PATA drivers and it still doesnt work |
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| 22:44.23 | pipeline | magnuX: there are other possibilities - you could have also cocked it up such that LABEL doesn't work, or lvm, or or or... |
| 22:44.24 | magnuX | the initrd is ok, I am comparing it with the debian default kernel |
| 22:44.30 | pipeline | magnuX: you're probably better off not building your own kernel. |
| 22:45.03 | racecar56 | how do i change the desktop from the spotty 'xorg loading' to something else |
| 22:45.32 | magnuX | pipeline, I am trying to make work a wifi card who doesnt work with defaults debian kernels |
| 22:46.23 | themill | magnuX: what's the card? |
| 22:47.27 | factor | does anyone in ehre use a huappage remote control, I loaded the module but what programs uses that module ir-kbd-i2c |
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| 22:48.27 | pipeline | magnuX: oh, so you're getting your arm twisted, here. |
| 22:48.42 | magnuX | themill, Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20 |
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| 22:49.11 | themill | !RTL8185 |
| 22:49.12 | dpkg | [rtl-wifi] the Realtek Linux wireless drivers, forked from the rtl8180-sa2400 project. Supports RTL8180, RTL8185, RTL8187 and RTL8187B chipsets. RTL8187 support included in mainline kernel from 2.6.23, RTL8180 and RTL8185 from 2.6.25, some RTL8187B from 2.6.27. RTL8187SE not supported, ask me about <rtl8187se>. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x |
| 22:49.14 | magnuX | when I ifconfig wlan0 the pc freezes |
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| 22:49.26 | magnuX | themill, it doesnt work... |
| 22:49.43 | pipeline | magnuX: I doubt upgrading your kernel is going to help wit that particular problem... |
| 22:49.48 | magnuX | themill, I have tried with all the debian modules, always the computer freezes |
| 22:49.50 | pipeline | magnuX: better just to get a betetr wifi card. |
| 22:50.08 | themill | magnuX: have you tried the 2.6.30 kernel from backports.org? |
| 22:50.18 | magnuX | pipeline, nice way to solve things |
| 22:50.23 | magnuX | themill, that is a great idea |
| 22:50.36 | magnuX | havent try it yet, thank you |
| 22:50.44 | themill | magnuX: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 22:50.55 | themill | much easier than compiling your own... |
| 22:51.48 | Polarina | How do I stop `svn update` from spamming "** (process:24732): WARNING **: couldn't connect to daemon at $GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET: /tmp/keyring-oA6JX1/socket: Connection refused"? |
| 22:52.16 | themill | Polarina: did setting SSH_ASKPASS not work? |
| 22:52.32 | Polarina | themill: What does it really do? |
| 22:52.41 | themill | Polarina: man ssh |
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| 22:53.22 | Polarina | themill: The path you gave me doesn't exist on my machine. |
| 22:54.07 | Polarina | themill: No, it doesn't help. |
| 22:54.45 | themill | Polarina: you'll probably need to install a terminal-only ssh-askpass that won't try talking to gnome. |
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| 22:54.57 | Polarina | themill: Do you know of one? |
| 22:55.02 | pipeline | magnuX: hey, it's been the way to solve problems for twenty years. |
| 22:55.27 | pipeline | magnuX: I only have intel and 3com NICs in my house :X |
| 22:55.58 | themill | Polarina: unsetting it will probably also work, actually |
| 22:56.07 | heffay | ive heard people caution me against running a mixed distribution (ie. stable with some packages from testing) but is it ok to run testing with a few packages from stable? |
| 22:56.43 | Polarina | themill: How do I do that? |
| 22:56.47 | magnuX | pipeline, somethings you cant change the hw, the easy way to justify it doesnt work is just get a new one |
| 22:57.01 | themill | Polarina: better would be to fix the gnome keyring so that your ssh could talk to it.... but you're going to have to work on that yourself. |
| 22:57.34 | Polarina | themill: I don't want to fix ssh. I want to fix svn that's trying to authenticate over https. |
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| 22:58.07 | themill | Polarina: hang on.... did I make up the bit about you doing svn+ssh? |
| 22:58.32 | Polarina | themill: Yes, you did. |
| 22:58.35 | themill | :( |
| 22:58.37 | Polarina | ssh has nothing to do with this. |
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| 22:59.47 | cantido | heffay: I wouldn't .. what's the point in mixing stable and testing anyhow. |
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| 23:00.15 | cantido | heffay: run stable with backports or run testing |
| 23:00.17 | abrotman | cantido: you enjoy suffering ? |
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| 23:00.55 | cantido | abrotman: ? |
| 23:01.02 | themill | Polarina: there should be an optionn for this in ~/.subversion/config |
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| 23:03.16 | Polarina | themill: It's ignoring that file somehow... |
| 23:03.41 | themill | Polarina: what did you add to that? |
| 23:04.18 | Polarina | themill: I changed some options. |
| 23:05.16 | Polarina | Oh, I fixed it. |
| 23:05.19 | Polarina | Thanks. :) |
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| 23:05.50 | themill | Polarina: of course if you just ran stable.... :P |
| 23:05.55 | Polarina | I deleted the auth directory after setting store-auth-creds and password-stores to yes and it's fine now |
| 23:06.59 | Polarina | themill: Now it's asking for the password every time I do a svn update. |
| 23:07.14 | themill | Polarina: you should try connecting it to gnome keyring then |
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| 23:07.39 | Polarina | themill: Never! |
| 23:07.49 | themill | remembers why he always does svn+ssh and not https |
| 23:08.18 | Polarina | And why's that? |
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| 23:08.34 | themill | ssh keys to do all the auth |
| 23:08.50 | heffay | cantidio, i AM running testing but im trying to install a package the depends on a library that is only in stable |
| 23:08.56 | ajavid | I only run svn on my server |
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| 23:09.13 | ajavid | access it with file:// |
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| 23:09.44 | Jorophose | great, so the upgrade to 5.0.2 bjorked apt-get |
| 23:09.45 | ajavid | but svn+ssh makes more sense |
| 23:09.56 | Jorophose | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 2398 package `libwps-0.1-1': |
| 23:09.56 | Jorophose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.56 | Jorophose | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
| 23:09.57 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, Jorophose |
| 23:10.48 | Jorophose | I don't understand dpkg. Assuming the account is a bot, can anyone help me out? What do you mean, I'm the only person to fail at apt-getting a package, or I just envoked you by saying "apt-get"? |
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| 23:11.38 | abrotman | yes, dpkg is a bot |
| 23:11.55 | Jorophose | so what's dpkg trying to tell me here? |
| 23:11.58 | themill | heffay: if the package isn't in testing, it's usually for a reason. What are you trying to do? |
| 23:12.24 | themill | abrotman: it was better when dpkg just called the punters morons. This new polite dpkg is disturbing. |
| 23:13.21 | abrotman | themill: don't look at me .. i didn't complain about it |
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| 23:13.41 | Jorophose | oh, lol am I retarded, I missed my own copypasta. |
| 23:13.42 | heffay | install mable for kde4, which depends on libgps17, which is only in stable. libgps18 is in testing |
| 23:13.42 | jmarsden | Jorophose: dpkg the bot is telling you it did not understand what you asked it. dpkg the application on your machine is telling you there is an unexpected newline in the file /var/lib/dpkg/available near line 2398 ... |
| 23:13.57 | Jorophose | jmarsden: how do I fix it?!? all I did was upgrade to 5.0.2 |
| 23:14.30 | ajavid | Jorophose, how about apt-get update |
| 23:14.37 | abrotman | Jorophose: use a pastebin .. paste lines 2350 to 2400 |
| 23:14.51 | Jorophose | ok, will do |
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| 23:15.47 | Jorophose | ajavid: ran fine, some of the sources appear to be gone now though, better remove them. should I try apt-get install now? |
| 23:16.11 | ajavid | so package list updated, try installing something |
| 23:16.34 | themill | heffay: you might want to run an apt-get update. I can't see any dependency on libgps17 in squeeze |
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| 23:17.04 | heffay | libgps17 is not in squeeze... |
| 23:17.07 | heffay | thats the problem |
| 23:17.32 | themill | and there's no dependency on it in the package in squeeze |
| 23:18.30 | Jorophose | checking /var/lib/dpkg/available, no line 2400, but I'm pastebinning what was there at 2350 and past |
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| 23:19.33 | heffay | http://pastebin.com/d40bcc28c |
| 23:19.54 | themill | heffay: did you run an "apt-get update"? |
| 23:19.57 | heffay | yes |
| 23:20.14 | abrotman | judd: versions libgps17 |
| 23:20.15 | judd | abrotman: libgps17 -- etch-backports: 2.37-6~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.37-7 |
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| 23:20.29 | Jorophose | http://pastebin.com/d5396507 |
| 23:20.31 | abrotman | judd: versions marble |
| 23:20.31 | judd | abrotman: marble -- etch-backports: 0.4.3-2~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.6+svn837399-2 squeeze: 4:4.2.2-1+b2 sid: 4:4.2.4-1 experimental: 4:4.2.96-1 |
| 23:20.36 | abrotman | okay .. |
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| 23:21.20 | themill | heffay: can you pastebin the output of "aptitude search ~U ; apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy marble libmarble4 libgps17 libgps18" |
| 23:21.21 | abrotman | squeeze has libgps18 |
| 23:21.31 | themill | abrotman: keep up! |
| 23:21.48 | abrotman | totally ahead |
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| 23:22.44 | heffay | http://pastebin.com/d369144ca |
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| 23:23.32 | Jorophose | ok, so I tried to install something else, failed again |
| 23:23.36 | themill | heffay: so the problem is with the packages youre getting from debian-desktop.org rather than from debian... |
| 23:23.59 | Jorophose | now, it seems to be related to the xorg package, but the only xorg related thing was update my xorg.conf. I have no idea if it's breaking because of that. |
| 23:24.42 | themill | Jorophose: you seem to have some fairly horrid filesystem corruption there. |
| 23:24.58 | heffay | right, but it compromise my system to install a package from stable? |
| 23:25.01 | heffay | would it? |
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| 23:25.16 | owen1 | what is the difference between .bash_profile, .profile and .bashrc ? |
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| 23:25.25 | themill | heffay: you're mixing non-debian sources for lenny with debian sources for squeeze. That is the source of your problem. |
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| 23:25.28 | Jorophose | themill: so what's the solution? |
| 23:25.42 | Tramp | owen1: man bash, section "INVOCATION" explains it |
| 23:25.51 | owen1 | thanks |
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| 23:26.13 | Jorophose | themill: I also had a crash about five minutes ago, no idea if it was power related... just heard a "click" like the machine turned off but the image was frozen on screen and the LEDs in the case were still on. tried turning it off took like a minute |
| 23:26.22 | heffay | which sources are for lenny? |
| 23:26.32 | heffay | debian-desktop? |
| 23:26.37 | themill | heffay: http://www.debian-desktop.org lenny/kde424 |
| 23:26.46 | themill | which bit of that doesn't say lenny? |
| 23:26.51 | heffay | ah! |
| 23:27.32 | macrobat | when i enable a deb-src, i get W: GPG error: http://ftp.sunet.se sid Release: Unknown error executing gpgv |
| 23:27.33 | themill | heffay: get rid of that and hope that you haven't introduced too many strange packages from there |
| 23:27.44 | macrobat | how do i add a key? |
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| 23:28.42 | Jorophose | so seriously, what could I do to fix this, short of reinstallation?... |
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| 23:29.18 | abrotman | did he ever paste the file ? |
| 23:29.21 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 23:29.32 | themill | abrotman: [00:20] <Jorophose> http://pastebin.com/d5396507 |
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| 23:29.49 | themill | heffay: you may want to "/msg dpkg obsolete" to find out what else you've picked up from there, although your box appears to need a good {safe,full}-upgrade anyway. |
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| 23:30.20 | themill | abrotman: the punch line is: Priority:nameserver 192.168.0.1 |
| 23:30.31 | heffay | thats odd, i did an upgrade about two days ago |
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| 23:31.43 | Jorophose | themill: oh! I just searched that. but again, can you help me fix it? I have no idea what it's supposed to be, and I know it shouldn't be pointing to my router... |
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| 23:33.30 | jmarsden | Jorophose: Those entries in /etc/resolv.conf should usually point to whatever DNS servers your ISP provides for you to use, unless you are an expert doing something "clever". |
| 23:33.45 | abrotman | themill: just remove that stanza ? |
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| 23:34.13 | themill | abrotman: if it's fs corruption then there's a lot more work to do than that |
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| 23:34.46 | Jorophose | jsmarden: it's not /etc/resolv.conf, it's /var/lib/dpkg/available |
| 23:35.18 | bkw | Is it 'Active' in /proc/meminfo which shows how much memory the currently processes are consuming? Like free -m "-/+ buffers/cache:" ? |
| 23:35.38 | abrotman | move it out of the way and try again ? |
| 23:35.47 | macrobat | W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.sunet.se sid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 9AA38DCD55BE302B Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 23:35.52 | macrobat | why is the pkg manager looking for a lenny key? im on sid |
| 23:36.15 | themill | macrobat: it's the archive key, /msg dpkg new archive key |
| 23:36.23 | Jorophose | abrotman: refering to me? |
| 23:37.07 | jmarsden | Jorophose: nameserver 192.168.0.1 is in your /var/lib/dpkg/available ? I think you are confused? |
| 23:37.26 | themill | jmarsden: he's not confused. It's the cause of the problem |
| 23:37.27 | macrobat | purge the debian-archive-keyring and reinstall? |
| 23:37.34 | Jorophose | jmarsden: no, check this out: http://pastebin.com/d5396507 |
| 23:37.36 | abrotman | jmarsden: it's in the paste |
| 23:37.37 | themill | macrobat: although "BADSIG" is a different error again |
| 23:37.39 | macrobat | i dont get it :) |
| 23:38.02 | Jorophose | macrobat: how would I purge the keyring? and then I just apt-get update and then try to install my package? |
| 23:38.14 | abrotman | Jorophose: he wasn't talking to you |
| 23:38.41 | jmarsden | Jorophose: OK, then that line "nameserver 192.168.0.1" should be edited out of there, or the whole file needs to be regenerated. |
| 23:38.41 | Jorophose | abrotman: oh, sorry. |
| 23:38.56 | themill | Jorophose: what file system is that on? |
| 23:38.59 | Jorophose | jmarsden: how do I regenerate the file? and do I just delete that single line? |
| 23:39.01 | Jorophose | ext3 |
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| 23:39.13 | Jorophose | but it's really old hardware... |
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| 23:40.15 | themill | Jorophose: first step would be to force and fsck of that partition to make sure this isn't going to happen again the next tine you get a dhcp lease. |
| 23:40.21 | Nicolas | hi everyone here! |
| 23:40.39 | Jorophose | force and fsck? |
| 23:41.26 | gihan | hi im running debian 5 and ftp as vsftpd. im getting directory listening error any idea why it happens? |
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| 23:42.21 | macrobat | ok, i tried adding a random "key" in seahorse, didnt help and seahorse is run as a normal user |
| 23:42.27 | themill | sorry, force an fsck. "shutdown -r -F". Then you need to regenerate that file -- copying the available-old file across will hopefully be enough. |
| 23:42.54 | fas3r | can i start grub in vesa mode ? (i mean start linux in vesa mode from grub ) ... i have install my grapphic card but when i reboot i have nothing on screen and keyboard don't work ... |
| 23:43.30 | Jorophose | ok themill. how long would that take? is it that the filesystem-check I see every 30 boots? |
| 23:43.39 | themill | yes |
| 23:44.21 | zenwryly | How does one sign a document with multiple sigs? I'm trying to follow http://www.debian-administration.org/users/dkg/weblog/48 |
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| 23:44.48 | zetheroo | is this true? "a large percentage of Linux developers have switched to Macs, or have stopped developing for Linux entirely after using OSX" |
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| 23:49.20 | macrobat | i did: gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 55BE302B ; gpg --export 55BE302B | sudo apt-key add - |
| 23:49.29 | macrobat | problem persists |
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| 23:49.48 | Jorophose | themill: and then copy over the old available over the new one? |
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| 23:55.52 | Pupuser402-1 | I am unable to boot debian 5.0 error unable to enumerate usb device on port 2 ,,Try the 8139 driver instead ? |
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