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| 00:01.17 | xsdg | hey, all; lvm question: what is the utility of the volume group abstraction? |
| 00:01.24 | Fedor-AFK | good night guys! |
| 00:01.26 | xsdg | what can a volume group do that a logical volume cannot? |
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| 00:02.17 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, after installing ffmpeg, where I can find it ? |
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| 00:03.07 | JackGray | keep forgetting... how do you attach to the currently open x on the /host's/ side of ssh (i.e. how do you open applications and have them show up on the host's screen rather than ssh -X over the client's) |
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| 00:03.24 | Wizzup | JackGray: I think you can set the DISPLAY value |
| 00:03.31 | Wizzup | export DISPLAY=":0.0" or alike |
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| 00:03.41 | ludan | hi guys |
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| 00:03.46 | ludan | i did update lenny today |
| 00:03.56 | ludan | and I can't compile ati driver any longer |
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| 00:04.04 | ludan | did this happen to anyone here? |
| 00:04.05 | pl4yer0ne | Black_Phantom, /usr/bin/ ? |
| 00:04.18 | ludan | i'm getting crazy with this story over and over |
| 00:04.31 | ludan | i need to use a .29 kernel in lenny 'cause of my freaking wifi card |
| 00:04.51 | ludan | but this gives me a lot of troubles when coming to ati drivers |
| 00:04.58 | ludan | that I must use since the support of the free driver is bad |
| 00:05.06 | ludan | and the fan of my cpu is 100% without |
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| 00:05.15 | ludan | please help |
| 00:05.26 | JackGray | Wizzup: yup think that works, thanks |
| 00:05.30 | bzed | xsdg: a volume group is a group of physical volumes. a logical volume is a part of a volume group. |
| 00:06.01 | bzed | xsdg: or better, an lv is a member of a vg and resides somewhere on the pvs the vg was created from |
| 00:06.30 | xsdg | bzed: ::nod:: |
| 00:06.34 | SQlvpapir__ | ludan: be sure to follow upgrade instructions from the driver provider |
| 00:06.41 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, I found it in /usr/bin but I can't open it |
| 00:06.57 | ludan | SQlvpapir__: what do you mean? the installer is naive |
| 00:06.58 | xsdg | bzed: why does the concept Volume Group even exist, though? Why isn't it enough to have just PVs and LVs? |
| 00:07.14 | SQlvpapir__ | ludan: oh you use a package in debian? |
| 00:07.18 | pl4yer0ne | what do you mean you cant open it? |
| 00:07.31 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, when I double click it, nothing happens |
| 00:07.34 | bzed | xsdg: so you don';t have to mess with PVs all the time |
| 00:07.44 | ludan | SQlvpapir__: i'd like to but does not installa since i don't have the right version of the kernel |
| 00:07.51 | pl4yer0ne | errr it isnt a gui program |
| 00:07.52 | ludan | which is not available for download in debian |
| 00:08.12 | Black_Phantom | oh ok |
| 00:08.28 | adb | ludan: what exactly you need ? |
| 00:08.32 | bzed | xsdg: you can add (and remove) pvs from a vg, and you can just allocate a new lv (or resize an existing one..) from a vg without having to worry about which pv to add now and so on |
| 00:08.35 | bzed | xsdg: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html |
| 00:08.48 | ludan | adb: to compile this damn driver as I did before |
| 00:09.02 | adb | yes , as kernel |
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| 00:09.04 | adb | ? |
| 00:09.11 | ludan | adb: as kernel module yes |
| 00:10.07 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.15 | ludan | 2.6.29-1 |
| 00:10.16 | xsdg | bzed: ok, that makes sense. So it's so that you can use some space without having to worry about the physical volumes on which that space resides. |
| 00:10.23 | ludan | which is not there anymore |
| 00:10.27 | ludan | there is -2 |
| 00:10.34 | ludan | but the kernel is not there |
| 00:10.47 | ludan | only the ati driver are available for -2 |
| 00:10.59 | ludan | this is a sick story as usual for ati |
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| 00:11.34 | ludan | adb: let's say, kernel is .30 and ati stuff is .29-2 |
| 00:11.43 | ludan | and I can't get them compiled from sources |
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| 00:11.56 | xsdg | bzed: so, next question; I'm trying to build a setup equivalent to a 4-drive raid1+0 using just LVM. So, basically, I need to make two mirrored pairs and the resulting devices |
| 00:12.01 | bzed | xsdg: exactly. and on the other side, if you want to remove a pv for example, you don't have to worry about hich lv resides on it, you just tell lvm with pvmove to move the data to another pv and you don't have to worry which data is moved... |
| 00:12.31 | xsdg | bzed: I'm confused about whether I need to put all 4 drives in on VG, or each mirrored pair in its own VG, or what. Or does it not matter? |
| 00:12.44 | bzed | xsdg: don;t use the lvm mirror, its far behind mdadm. I'd just create a raid10 with mdamd |
| 00:12.54 | pl4yer0ne | Black_Phantom, what are you actually trying to do? |
| 00:12.55 | xsdg | bzed: ok, thanks |
| 00:13.23 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, to convert 19 videos to mp3 |
| 00:13.23 | xsdg | bzed: unfortunately, can't do a real raid10 because it refuses to start with 2 of 4 drives missing (though I have no idea why) |
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| 00:13.27 | Black_Phantom | Extract audio from them |
| 00:13.38 | xsdg | actually, maybe it cares about the order of arguments |
| 00:13.41 | xsdg | tries something |
| 00:14.15 | bzed | xsdg: you *could* create two normal mirrors (raid1) with mdadm and than use both as PV in one VG and let the LV stripe the data across both mirrors... |
| 00:14.45 | reptile | the last line of dmesg says--> ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready |
| 00:14.46 | xsdg | bzed: ::nod:: |
| 00:15.03 | xsdg | bzed: if I can get raid10 going, I'll just go with that; lemme see |
| 00:15.11 | bzed | xsdg: I'd just stick with a raid10 from md, though... and use that as single PV for lvm |
| 00:15.35 | bzed | xsdg: hint:if you want to boot with it, create a small (150MB or so) raid1 for /boot |
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| 00:15.53 | bzed | xsdg: grub happily uses raid1, but nothing else |
| 00:16.06 | xsdg | bzed: yeah, already took care of that; thanks, though |
| 00:16.13 | bzed | you're welcome |
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| 00:16.44 | xsdg | bzed: and yeah, it pays attention to the order of args. so specifying devices as "sda1 sdb1 missing missing" fails, while "sda1 missing sdb1 missing" works fine |
| 00:16.52 | adb | ludan: 32 bit ? |
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| 00:16.58 | ludan | adb: yes |
| 00:16.59 | adb | ludan: get linux-headers-2.6.29-bpo + linux-image .29-bpo2 http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/i386/allpackages |
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| 00:17.11 | bzed | xsdg: yeah. so you want to add more disks later? |
| 00:17.15 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.23 | ludan | ok |
| 00:17.30 | ludan | adb: so .29-2 |
| 00:17.42 | adb | try it |
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| 00:18.09 | Mellow2 | sorry I had a crash |
| 00:18.17 | Mellow2 | question: What is "contrib" |
| 00:18.22 | Mellow2 | should I use "contrib"? |
| 00:18.31 | bzed | !contrib |
| 00:18.31 | dpkg | it has been said that contrib is Debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in Debian (possibly in contrib or non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [etch|lenny|squeeze|sid] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list. Also ask me about <non-free>. |
| 00:18.34 | xsdg | bzed: yeah; I've got a 4-disk raid10 that I'm moving to a new 4-disk raid10 (with bigger disks and a different filesystem); I'd just rather not have to do trial-and-error picking the second drive to pull, though |
| 00:18.42 | Mellow2 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny contrib |
| 00:18.45 | Mellow2 | like that |
| 00:18.58 | xsdg | bzed: I'm at the 6-drive limit :o) |
| 00:19.02 | Mellow2 | I have no clue what contrib stands for |
| 00:19.04 | xsdg | (plus a boot disk) |
| 00:19.05 | ludan | adb: there is -bigmem version for .29-2 |
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| 00:19.15 | adb | yes |
| 00:19.23 | bzed | xsdg: ah ok :) sounds like a good plan than. have fun, I'm off to bed :) |
| 00:19.26 | ludan | adb: how am i gonna do? |
| 00:19.31 | ludan | adb: shall I get .30? |
| 00:19.33 | xsdg | bzed: g'night. thanks again |
| 00:19.37 | adb | no |
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| 00:19.42 | bzed | xsdg: you're welcome |
| 00:19.52 | ludan | adb: then? :( |
| 00:20.22 | adb | ludan: install all those .29-bpo and reboot on .29-bpo |
| 00:20.33 | jpinx-eeepc | judd: versions bitlbee-skype |
| 00:20.34 | judd | jpinx-eeepc: bitlbee-skype -- |
| 00:20.34 | ludan | adb: i'm already with them |
| 00:20.45 | ludan | adb: i've .29 etc etc |
| 00:21.24 | adb | install linux-kbuild-2.6.29_2.6.29-1_i386.deb , use dpkg -i |
| 00:21.36 | ludan | ok |
| 00:21.38 | pl4yer0ne | Black_Phantom, have you figured it out yet? |
| 00:21.38 | adb | uname -r |
| 00:21.44 | enouf | xsdg: these should be informative http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-lvm2/index.html and http://insights.oetiker.ch/linux/raidoptimization.html |
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| 00:21.54 | jpinx-eeepc | judd: versions skyped bitlbee-plugin-skype |
| 00:21.55 | judd | jpinx-eeepc: skyped -- experimental/contrib: 0.7.1-1 |
| 00:22.01 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, I saw the command, I'm trying it now |
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| 00:22.38 | ludan | ii linux-kbuild-2.6.29 2.6.29-1 Kbuild infrastructure for Linux 2.6.29 |
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| 00:22.59 | ludan | uname -r: 2.6.29-1-bigmem |
| 00:23.08 | TheTopicPolice | Proprietary software for the purpose of evading telephone taxes is offtopic in #debian. Please move to #debian-offtopic. |
| 00:23.09 | ludan | 686-bigmem actually |
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| 00:24.01 | beardy | That's not the reason why it is offtopic, who the fuck you ever are. |
| 00:24.54 | craigevil | not much point in using bitlbee-plugin-skype you still have to have skype running |
| 00:24.55 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, worked |
| 00:24.57 | fortlock | not gonna work |
| 00:25.00 | adb | ludan: try recompile now |
| 00:25.08 | enouf | xsdg: other things debian specific perhaps you should note; /etc/default/mdadm ; /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf ; /usr/share/doc/mdadm/* and note, /boot wants to be on it's own (non-LVM) partition when using grub1, and needs an initrd |
| 00:25.12 | ludan | adb: but nothing change so far |
| 00:25.14 | TheTopicFascists | beardy: Who the fuck are you? |
| 00:25.35 | TheTopicFascists | is The Topic Fascists Party |
| 00:25.43 | ludan | adb: /usr/src/modules/fglrx/firegl_public.c:1808: error: struct task_struct has no member named cap_effective |
| 00:25.47 | ludan | and so on |
| 00:26.01 | adb | grr .. |
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| 00:26.06 | ludan | adb: :( |
| 00:26.15 | Wizzup | How can I see if sshd will be started by default on a reboot? |
| 00:26.17 | pl4yer0ne | Black_Phantom, ffmpeg is a bit magical and you can probably do something like "ffmpeg -i <your video> <your mp3 filname with .mp3> |
| 00:26.26 | ludan | there is no way I can get linux-image .29-2? |
| 00:26.28 | xsdg | enouf: thanks. All the "making it work" stuff should be figured out, since it's just for /home, which was already raid10 |
| 00:26.30 | adb | !fglrx |
| 00:26.30 | dpkg | fglrx is probably "FireGL and Radeon for X", the AMD/ATI proprietary display driver. To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner> or follow the instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary . As of fglrx-driver 1:9-4-1, no chipsets prior to the r600 series are supported; ask me about <radeon> or <radeonhd> instead. #ati on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:26.44 | pl4yer0ne | like: ffmpeg -i somevideo.avi someaudio.mp3 |
| 00:26.45 | xsdg | but optimization sounds like fun, especially since I'm switching filesystems :o) |
| 00:26.52 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, yeah |
| 00:26.58 | pl4yer0ne | and it will just work out what to do |
| 00:26.59 | ludan | this damn ati card |
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| 00:27.02 | enouf | Wizzup: i use /msg dpkg rcconf , but you could just see if /etc/rc2.d/SNNssh* exists |
| 00:27.16 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, but how to encode a list of file simultaneously ? |
| 00:27.20 | Black_Phantom | files* |
| 00:27.25 | enouf | xsdg: which is? xfs? |
| 00:27.32 | Wizzup | enouf: Thank you. It is there |
| 00:27.40 | xsdg | enouf: ext4 |
| 00:27.44 | enouf | ahh |
| 00:27.47 | Black_Phantom | like I want to encode the 13 videos simultaneously |
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| 00:27.55 | xsdg | I would have preferred ZFS, but it's slow as heck and not tested enough :o/ |
| 00:27.55 | pl4yer0ne | just do a for loop |
| 00:27.59 | adb | ludan: i just told you , get them from bakports.org |
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| 00:28.07 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, how ? |
| 00:28.08 | enouf | !bpo |
| 00:28.08 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>. |
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| 00:28.25 | reptile | hi |
| 00:28.48 | reptile | i appended to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 00:28.57 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, because I want to give the command and sleep because its too late, I will wake up tomorrow morning with everything ready |
| 00:29.01 | enouf | now run update reptile |
| 00:29.03 | pl4yer0ne | Black_Phantom, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/loops1.html |
| 00:29.09 | reptile | apt-get update says --> W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 00:29.09 | DarkJustice | pretty new to Debian, linux at all and on boot it says to use the 8139too driver... been searching on how to do this... any help on how to enable the 8139too would be appreciated |
| 00:29.13 | reptile | what does that mean |
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| 00:29.47 | enouf | !8139too |
| 00:29.56 | enouf | !8139 |
| 00:29.56 | dpkg | 8139 is probably A cheap Taiwanese chipset usually found in low-end cards. |
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| 00:30.21 | ludan | adb: there aren't in bpo |
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| 00:30.27 | adb | ludan: get linux-headers-2.6.29-bpo2 + linux-image .29-bpo2 http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/i386/allpackages |
| 00:30.35 | dd-_-_-_-_-_-_-b | I now have the best nick. |
| 00:30.36 | enouf | heh - DarkJustice does dmesg show it loading? how about 8139cp ? |
| 00:31.24 | adb | dd-_-_-_-_-_-_-b: do /nick s$ |
| 00:31.27 | DarkJustice | whoah screen rush when dmesg |
| 00:31.31 | enouf | DarkJustice: you could add it to /etc/modules, you might want/need to blacklist the cp module ; /msg dpkg blacklist and blacklist initramfs |
| 00:31.51 | enouf | er /msg dpkg blacklist-initramfs |
| 00:32.17 | craigevil | reptile: aptitude install debian-multimedia-keyring |
| 00:32.17 | Qew | reptile: it means you need the debian-multimedia-keyring. Install that. Also you don't need contrib and non-free on the debian-multimedia line. |
| 00:32.18 | enouf | and wiki.debian,org should have specific info about that chip/module |
| 00:32.52 | enouf | !rtl8139 |
| 00:32.52 | dpkg | somebody said rtl8139 was a RealTek PCI NIC that uses the 8139too (new) or rtl8139 (old) driver. *not* ne2k-pci, or a piece of shit card!...but some people have had good luck with it. see also <rtl81x9.c> |
| 00:33.12 | enouf | !rtl81x9.c |
| 00:33.12 | dpkg | i guess rtl81x9.c is the openbsd realtek 8129/8139 PCI NIC driver. Quote: "The RealTek 8139 PCI NIC redefines the meaning of 'low end.' This is probably the worst PCI ethernet controller ever made, with the possible exception of the FEAST chip made by SMC. The 8139 supports bus-master DMA, but it has a terrible interface that nullifies any performance gains that bus-master DMA usually offers." |
| 00:33.17 | DarkJustice | yup that's the card |
| 00:33.56 | DarkJustice | uggh half the dmesg stuff I can't scroll up to see |
| 00:33.59 | ludan | adb: ok not i install it with dpkg? |
| 00:34.04 | adb | ludan: when d/l + install by `dpkg -i ` done reboot in 2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
| 00:34.21 | ludan | adb: and then? |
| 00:34.29 | adb | compile |
| 00:34.33 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, the output is not the same folder where the real file exists ? |
| 00:34.42 | ludan | adb: just go to /usr/src/modules/fglrx? |
| 00:34.48 | adb | ludan: reboot in 2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
| 00:34.49 | Qew | reptile: http://debian-multimedia.org/faq.php has the details for that error. Check that site for any other issues you have. |
| 00:34.52 | adb | first |
| 00:34.54 | ludan | adb: ok, brb |
| 00:35.46 | Black_Phantom | the output is in* |
| 00:36.05 | pl4yer0ne | Black_Phantom, the program will do what you tell it to do. if your input file is /in/some/path/ and then your output file is not. it will put it in your current directory |
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| 00:37.42 | enouf | DarkJustice: shift+pageup |
| 00:37.50 | DarkJustice | ahhh thanks |
| 00:37.51 | enouf | DarkJustice: install less; use it |
| 00:38.20 | enouf | DarkJustice: update-alternatives --config pager (set less as default) |
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| 00:38.39 | adb | ludan: uname -r |
| 00:38.41 | ludan | adb: ok |
| 00:38.49 | ludan | oot@ppcduo:/usr/src/modules/fglrx# uname -r |
| 00:38.49 | ludan | 2.6.29-bpo.2-686-bigmem |
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| 00:39.22 | DarkJustice | yeah it's the 8139cp |
| 00:39.42 | enouf | DarkJustice: IINM, the cp and too conflict |
| 00:39.42 | s14ck | can I have bpo packages at sid? |
| 00:40.00 | DarkJustice | so I need to blacklist the cp |
| 00:40.05 | enouf | yep |
| 00:40.14 | DarkJustice | could that be why my system keeps hanging? |
| 00:40.21 | s14ck | adb, can I have bpo packages at sid? |
| 00:40.22 | enouf | DarkJustice: make sure it's not listed in /etc/modules too |
| 00:40.36 | enouf | DarkJustice: wrong module for NIC? sure |
| 00:40.49 | DarkJustice | hahah so it's not java |
| 00:41.02 | adb | s14ck: kernel ? |
| 00:41.03 | DarkJustice | I've been reinstalling java over and over cuz I keep freezing on website |
| 00:41.10 | Wizzup | To everyone. Etch -> Lenny went flawlessly. Only got 150 mails from vbulletin about it not being able to connect to MySQL for 2 minutes. Haha :-) |
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| 00:41.36 | enouf | DarkJustice: do you see tx/rx errors in ifconfig output? |
| 00:42.09 | DarkJustice | nope no errors |
| 00:42.41 | enouf | i meant TX/RX .. ok |
| 00:42.45 | adb | s14ck: kernel from bpo may work on sid ... |
| 00:42.48 | enouf | well, could be many things |
| 00:43.06 | DarkJustice | I thought it was browser, but tried 4 of 'em |
| 00:43.13 | DarkJustice | purged java and reinstalled it |
| 00:43.15 | s14ck | adb, I have 2.6.29-2-686 from linux-image-2.6.29-2-686 right now |
| 00:43.25 | ludan | adb: no way |
| 00:43.33 | adb | ludan: grr |
| 00:43.42 | adb | what say ? |
| 00:43.45 | DarkJustice | but when I am on any java site... the system just hangs and have to totally shut down... so I assumed that was hardware |
| 00:43.55 | ludan | /usr/src/modules/fglrx/firegl_public.c:1453: error: struct task_struct has no member named euid |
| 00:43.58 | s14ck | adb i need the source packages of this kernel |
| 00:44.15 | adb | ludan: hmmm |
| 00:44.26 | enouf | what are you doing on the java website? trying to run applets/servlets? |
| 00:44.36 | s14ck | adb, I need apply this http://slackware-hrvatska.org/wiki/index.php/Genius_iSlim_310 |
| 00:44.46 | DarkJustice | applets, yeah but sometimes even running Amarok does it |
| 00:44.53 | enouf | DarkJustice: i mean, try configuring which java is used -- update-java-alternatives? |
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| 00:45.07 | enouf | !sun-java-plugin |
| 00:45.15 | enouf | !java |
| 00:45.15 | dpkg | somebody said java was a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged for Debian, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:45.18 | s14ck | adb, but 2.6.30 have a bug. Sound intel is broken |
| 00:45.24 | DarkJustice | enouf: yeah tried using sun, the gdk and another |
| 00:45.44 | ludan | adb: i'd solve everything getting my wifi 5100 working with debian lenny kernel |
| 00:45.46 | enouf | DarkJustice: i don't know then - i never use that stuff |
| 00:46.05 | enouf | DarkJustice: configure the browser to use correct plugin and settings? |
| 00:46.18 | DarkJustice | enouf: yup, all 4 browsers lol |
| 00:46.19 | enouf | in IW, check about:plugins |
| 00:46.21 | adb | s14ck: try to use linux-headers-2.6.29-bpo.2 and linux-image-bpo.2 from bpo |
| 00:46.34 | DarkJustice | enouf: all plugins listed and enabled |
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| 00:46.49 | enouf | in KonqOut check it's Settings | Configure Konqout | Java? |
| 00:46.56 | DarkJustice | enouf: I'm guessing it's the 8139too issue, because my usb headphones.. the mic won't work |
| 00:47.24 | xsdg | enouf: yay; I'm getting 200+ MB/s write to the LV (during mkfs) |
| 00:47.51 | enouf | DarkJustice: modinfo 8139too lists more avail params you could tweak as well |
| 00:48.08 | enouf | xsdg: \o/ |
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| 00:48.39 | adb | ludan: lspci -nn | grep -i Net |
| 00:48.53 | ludan | 05:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless WiFi Link 5100 [8086:4232] |
| 00:48.54 | craigevil | s14ck: sound works for me using 2.6.30 but i use a sidux kerne, Card Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller driver HDA Intel |
| 00:48.58 | enouf | DarkJustice: the headphones and mic could be a ALSA or OSS issue, or just sound issue |
| 00:49.09 | adb | judd: pciid 8086:4232 |
| 00:49.10 | judd | adb: [8086:4232] is 'Wireless WiFi Link 5100' from 'Intel Corporation' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'iwlagn' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4232 |
| 00:49.25 | ludan | adb: if i get this wifi card working, then i don't need kernel upgrade anymore |
| 00:49.28 | adb | !iwlagn |
| 00:49.28 | dpkg | it has been said that iwlagn is the driver for Intel 5050, 5100BG/ABG/ABN, 5300AGN and 5350AGN series of wireless LAN adapters. Included in mainline kernels since 2.6.27 ("modprobe iwlagn"). Lenny users: ask me about <backports.org> to install a later kernel image containing this driver. Firmware is required, ask me about <iwlagn firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn |
| 00:49.29 | DarkJustice | enouf: true... ok I'm gonna go start with the blacklist and see if that helps, THANKS |
| 00:50.07 | enouf | DarkJustice: welcome. don't forget the blacklist-initramfs |
| 00:50.12 | ludan | adb: what shall i do? |
| 00:50.18 | enouf | since i presume the cp is loading from there |
| 00:50.23 | ludan | shall i wait for 2.7.27? |
| 00:50.40 | enouf | ludan: will never be in Lenny |
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| 00:50.44 | ludan | 2.6.27 |
| 00:50.50 | ludan | no? |
| 00:50.54 | enouf | no |
| 00:51.00 | ludan | then i'm dump |
| 00:51.08 | enouf | doesn't mean you can't install that, or a higher version and use it |
| 00:51.16 | craigevil | s14ck: also kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_pac7311.ko is already in the sidux kernel |
| 00:51.25 | ludan | enouf: yes but then i get problems with the ati card |
| 00:51.42 | enouf | ludan: with a .29 kernel? |
| 00:51.43 | DarkJustice | enouf: got that, thanks again, ok gonna go tyr and reboot. |
| 00:51.43 | ludan | cause the fan is always spinning if i use radeon free driver |
| 00:51.44 | adb | lsmod | grep iwlagn |
| 00:52.06 | ludan | root@ppcduo:/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod# lsmod | grep iwlagn |
| 00:52.06 | s14ck | craigevil, but include this patch http://slackware-hrvatska.org/wiki/index.php/Genius_iSlim_310 ? |
| 00:52.07 | ludan | iwlagn 70592 0 |
| 00:52.07 | ludan | iwlcore 76868 1 iwlagn |
| 00:52.08 | ludan | mac80211 134672 2 iwlagn,iwlcore |
| 00:52.10 | ludan | cfg80211 32780 3 iwlagn,iwlcore,mac80211 |
| 00:52.14 | enouf | ugh |
| 00:52.15 | adb | ok |
| 00:52.24 | ludan | sorry for flooding |
| 00:52.31 | s14ck | :S |
| 00:52.41 | simonrvn | /kick ludan |
| 00:52.48 | ludan | :( |
| 00:52.56 | enouf | !pastebin |
| 00:52.56 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 00:52.59 | craigevil | s14ck: that i am not sure of |
| 00:53.02 | simonrvn | it's ok |
| 00:53.09 | adb | ludan: so iwlagn is installed , so wifi 5100 must work |
| 00:53.17 | ludan | adb: it is working |
| 00:53.25 | adb | great ! |
| 00:53.32 | ludan | adb: but if i switch to my .26-2 does not anymore |
| 00:53.53 | ludan | or should i load the module manually? |
| 00:53.53 | adb | so don't switch ... |
| 00:53.53 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, thanks for your help everything is working fine. |
| 00:53.53 | ludan | i don't understand |
| 00:54.07 | ludan | adb: but if i don't switch i'm in .29 and the ati driver does not work |
| 00:54.12 | adb | keep using actual kernel |
| 00:54.18 | ludan | adb: :( |
| 00:54.32 | ludan | like a cat eating its tail |
| 00:54.33 | enouf | ludan: best bet is to fix whatever is wrong with fglrx in .29 |
| 00:54.45 | ludan | enouf: as i did 2 months ago |
| 00:54.49 | ludan | enouf: before this update |
| 00:54.51 | enouf | tried #fglrx ? |
| 00:54.57 | ludan | but now i can't compile |
| 00:55.05 | enouf | ugh |
| 00:55.09 | s14ck | :s |
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| 00:55.50 | pl4yer0ne | Black_Phantom, your welcome |
| 00:56.19 | enouf | ludan: wait, which card? r5xx? tried the radeon/radeonhd module? |
| 00:56.32 | adb | ludan: lspci -nn | grep -i VGA |
| 00:56.35 | ludan | enouf: with radeon the fan is always spinning |
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| 00:56.45 | ludan | i'd love to use the free driver |
| 00:56.54 | ludan | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series [1002:95c4] |
| 00:56.58 | enouf | well -see if modinfo fglrx has a parm listed |
| 00:57.08 | enouf | !radeon vs radeonhd |
| 00:57.08 | dpkg | The <radeon> project started under a non-disclosure agreement with ATI to develop <free software> drivers for Radeon graphics cards. In 2007, after ATI released its documentation, a second project, <radeonhd>, was started from scratch with a focus on newer hardware. Differences and similarities can be found at: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature and http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeon#head-7b2a81f777639f8e12c9ac08a1e31d4c4bee9ef5 |
| 00:57.28 | adb | judd: pciid 1002:95c4 |
| 00:57.29 | judd | adb: [1002:95c4] is 'Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:95c4 |
| 00:57.34 | enouf | then there's #radeon as well |
| 00:57.42 | ludan | enouf: radeon or radeonhd? |
| 00:57.43 | enouf | ugh |
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| 00:57.52 | ludan | the driver not the channel |
| 00:58.08 | enouf | not sure, man radeon, man radeonhd - see the comparison |
| 00:58.33 | ludan | how do i see the chipset of this card? |
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| 01:00.39 | enouf | ludan: Mobility Radeon HD 3400 |
| 01:00.59 | ponyofdeath | hi is it possible to have multiple source ip's defined in iptables -s x.x.x.x y.y.y.y ? |
| 01:01.29 | simonrvn | !tias |
| 01:01.29 | dpkg | it has been said that tias is try it and see, or what you should have done first. |
| 01:01.41 | enouf | oh .. i see what you mean ludan - guess you have to google, or the man pages should tell you |
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| 01:02.02 | ludan | ok thanks |
| 01:02.04 | ludan | reboot a while |
| 01:02.07 | ludan | thanks a lot |
| 01:02.25 | Tramp | ponyofdeath: no. you can have a network with CIDR notation or (with iprange) a range (in from-to notation) |
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| 01:03.31 | ponyofdeath | Tramp: ok thanks |
| 01:03.44 | Tramp | yw |
| 01:04.21 | enouf | Lish: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-radeonhd/plain/README |
| 01:04.39 | enouf | er Lish sorry, i meant ludan, who left |
| 01:05.03 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.48 | enouf | i'd imagine all if not most HD cards would use the radeonhd |
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| 01:22.59 | daedhel | hi, my debian box suddenly refuses to connect to the dhcp server on my lan. "/etc/init.d/networking restart" wont work, and here is the line that is in the /etc/network/interface" : (allow-hotplug eth0) (iface eth0 inet dhcp) . The cable is ok, another box can connect to the dhcp with it |
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| 01:24.19 | yaboo007 | can I install debian packages from debian source? |
| 01:24.30 | enouf | yaboo007: huh? |
| 01:24.54 | enouf | yaboo007: if you use debian source, you build .deb and install it |
| 01:25.08 | enouf | !package basics |
| 01:25.08 | dpkg | hmm... package basics is The Basics of the Package Management System, Package format, and how to make packages. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics or see Debian New Maintainers' Guide at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 01:25.20 | yaboo007 | enouf, think thats it, thanks will read |
| 01:25.55 | enouf | daedhel: try ifconfig eth0 down; then restart net |
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| 01:26.28 | enouf | !dpkg-buildpackage |
| 01:26.28 | dpkg | it has been said that dpkg-buildpackage is a program in the dpkg-dev package that builds .debs from source. "aptitude install fakeroot devscripts dpkg-dev build-essential" and run 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot' in the source directory. Ask me about <package recompile> <debian/rules> <source>. |
| 01:26.53 | enouf | !listvals apt-get build-deps |
| 01:26.55 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'apt-get build-deps' by value returned no results. |
| 01:26.59 | enouf | !listvals apt-get build-dep |
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| 01:27.01 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'apt-get build-dep' by value (5): rebuild from debian source ;; munge package ;; quick build ;; build-dep ;; simple sid backport. |
| 01:27.10 | enouf | !rebuild from debian source |
| 01:27.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, rebuild from debian source is add the needed deb-src lines (/msg apt deb-src), then run 'apt-get source whatever; apt-get build-dep whatever'. cd into the newly created 'whatever' dir, then edit anything you want. for compilation options, look in debian/rules. then run 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us' to get your shiny new .debs |
| 01:27.26 | enouf | yaboo007: ^^^^^^ |
| 01:27.32 | daedhel | enouf, i have commented the line "allow-hotplug eth0" and put instead "auto eth0" and the "/etc/init.d/networking restart" worked... |
| 01:27.44 | enouf | ok |
| 01:28.22 | daedhel | and with allow-hotplug, even a reboot didn't work |
| 01:28.27 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps is there a way to make wget be 'nice' when download froma web and not piss webmasters off? like a delay between files and a slow download rate? |
| 01:28.38 | daedhel | any idea why ? I would like to have the allow-hotplug function |
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| 01:28.41 | enouf | trickle |
| 01:28.50 | simonrvn | bbelt16ag: man wget |
| 01:28.51 | enouf | !info trickle |
| 01:28.56 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 01:29.09 | enouf | daedhel: not offhand |
| 01:29.19 | daedhel | k thanks |
| 01:29.28 | dpkg | trickle: (user-space bandwidth shaper), section net, is optional. Version: 1.07-7+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 36 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 01:30.10 | enouf | you could also make a script with sleep interjected in between each d/l i guess |
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| 01:31.37 | adb | daedhel: what's means allow-hotplug ? |
| 01:31.50 | enouf | adb: you plug in, and it comes up :-) |
| 01:32.15 | enouf | you unplug and it goes away - maybe needs an ifup and ifdown too? |
| 01:33.04 | daedhel | adb, that you can plug and unplug the cable and it is detected and configured automatically |
| 01:33.52 | adb | thanks enouf daedhel :) |
| 01:33.59 | daedhel | np |
| 01:34.23 | adb | daedhel: uname -r |
| 01:34.41 | daedhel | ? |
| 01:35.00 | enouf | daedhel: which kernel version |
| 01:35.13 | enouf | daedhel: uname -r ; cat /proc/version |
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| 01:35.37 | daedhel | you wnat to know the kernel version of the debian box i'm working on ? |
| 01:35.49 | adb | yes |
| 01:36.18 | daedhel | http://downloads.dnsexit.com/ipUpdate-1.6-3.deb |
| 01:36.24 | daedhel | oups sorry |
| 01:36.30 | daedhel | 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 01:37.21 | adb | and which network chip ? |
| 01:37.21 | daedhel | man.... |
| 01:37.35 | daedhel | the stable kernel release is old |
| 01:37.41 | daedhel | one sec |
| 01:38.41 | daedhel | adb what do I install to have lspci on the box ? |
| 01:39.04 | daedhel | right now its lspci = command not found |
| 01:39.06 | adb | apt-file search lspci |
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| 01:39.49 | daedhel | adb, you mean apt-cache search ? |
| 01:39.59 | adb | no |
| 01:40.06 | adb | install it |
| 01:40.13 | daedhel | aok |
| 01:40.40 | reptile | do i need codecs to play dvd ? |
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| 01:40.49 | reptile | !dvd |
| 01:40.49 | dpkg | hmm... dvd is Digital Versatile Disc. To play a video DVD, ask me about <dvd playback>, then use either <xine>, <vlc> or <mplayer>. To burn a DVD, ask me about <wodim> or <growisofs>. To download Debian DVD images, ask me about <iso> and <small dvd>. To buy Debian DVDs, ask me about <vendors>. To copy/rip/transcode DVD video, ask me about <dvd ripping>. |
| 01:41.01 | reptile | !dvd playback |
| 01:41.01 | dpkg | To play DVDs, you need some media playing software (ask me about <dvd> for some suggestions on viewers). You will also need libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4 libdvdread3 w32codecs some of which are in <debian-multimedia.org> (see <libdvdcss> <w32codecs>). You will also need to set a region on your DVD player if you have never done so before using regionset. Also ask me about <dvd playback troubleshooting>. |
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| 01:41.10 | Mellow | hi |
| 01:41.29 | Mellow | how can I upgrade my Kernel to 2.6.28 without "baking" it from source? |
| 01:41.43 | adb | dpkg: tell reptile about selftell |
| 01:42.01 | adb | Mellow: install 2.6.30 |
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| 01:42.16 | Mellow | there is 2.6.30 ?! |
| 01:42.18 | Mellow | cool as :) |
| 01:42.21 | reptile | adb my bad |
| 01:42.34 | Mellow | adb: where shall I get this kernel from? |
| 01:42.39 | Mellow | I could not find it anywhere |
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| 01:43.02 | daedhel | adb, Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet Controller (rev 03) |
| 01:43.04 | adb | no worry reptile , now you know |
| 01:43.12 | Mellow | the highest kernel I've found was 2.6.29 which gave me a dependency problem |
| 01:44.14 | adb | Mellow: so install .29 |
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| 01:44.31 | adb | grr |
| 01:45.02 | enouf | Mellow: cat /proc/version |
| 01:45.02 | adb | Mellow: use backports |
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| 01:45.20 | Mellow | abd: I am using backports |
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| 01:45.40 | enouf | Mellow: or, go grab the linux-image-name-version and dpkg -i it, do NOT removce your know working kernel(s) |
| 01:45.40 | Mellow | enouf: Linux version 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 01:46.10 | adb | Mellow: paste your sources list |
| 01:46.10 | enouf | i didn't ask for uname r, did i? |
| 01:46.35 | Mellow | enouf: I only pasted the very first part of the /proc/version - I am sorry! |
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| 01:46.45 | enouf | no worries |
| 01:46.55 | enouf | !lenny-backports |
| 01:46.55 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>. |
| 01:46.59 | Mellow | Linux version 2.6.26-2-686 (Debian 2.6.26-15) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Thu Mar 26 01:08:11 UTC 2009 |
| 01:47.07 | adb | Mellow: backports works nice with lenny |
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| 01:47.29 | Mellow | my sources.list: |
| 01:47.33 | Mellow | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 01:47.33 | Mellow | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 01:47.33 | Mellow | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main |
| 01:47.33 | Mellow | deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
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| 01:48.51 | adb | Mellow: aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update |
| 01:49.03 | Mellow | I already did that |
| 01:49.05 | adb | all in one line, as root |
| 01:49.16 | Mellow | yep, thats what I've done before already |
| 01:49.23 | Mellow | there is a package called "linux-headers-2.6.29-bpo.2-all-i386" |
| 01:49.23 | adb | so why issue for 0.29 ? |
| 01:49.31 | reptile | my wifi card works great for backtrack 3, but i have no luck with Debian. How do i find out what bt3 provides so i know what to get? |
| 01:49.32 | Mellow | is this what I have to install? |
| 01:49.34 | enouf | so - show the errors and command to pastebin Mellow |
| 01:49.34 | reptile | Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter |
| 01:49.39 | reptile | lspci ^ |
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| 01:50.04 | reptile | madwifi wont work. ath5k is currently loaded. |
| 01:50.06 | enouf | reptile: lspci -nn | grep Atheros |
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| 01:50.22 | reptile | Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter |
| 01:50.31 | enouf | !fail |
| 01:50.43 | Mellow | there is no error, the problem is, that the package "linux-headers-2.6.29-bpo.2-all-i386" depends on "linux-kbuild-2.6.29" but this package does not exist! |
| 01:50.44 | reptile | 05:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter [168c:001c] (rev 01) |
| 01:50.48 | enouf | better |
| 01:51.03 | enouf | judd: pciid 168c:001c |
| 01:51.05 | judd | enouf: [168c:001c] is 'AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter' from 'Atheros Communications Inc.' with kernel module 'ath5k' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:001c |
| 01:51.12 | enouf | !ath5k |
| 01:51.12 | dpkg | [ath5k] a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 5xxx PCI wireless LAN chipsets. See http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k for more information and supported devices. Included in Debian kernels since 2.6.24. NOT for AR5007UG (aka AR2624/AR5524) chipsets, ask me about <zd1211rw> instead. For 802.11n device support, ask me about <ath9k>. See also <wireless tree>. |
| 01:51.38 | reptile | thanx i'll read that |
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| 01:53.22 | Mellow | enouf, any ideas about that dependency problem (see above) |
| 01:53.25 | adb | Mellow: linux-headers-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 and wget http://212.147.100.100/linux-kbuild-2.6.29_2.6.29-1_i386.deb |
| 01:53.46 | enouf | Mellow: you don't need headers to run the kernel |
| 01:54.01 | Mellow | what package should I download, enouf ? |
| 01:54.31 | enouf | !linux-image-2.6-686 --release lenny-backports |
| 01:54.43 | adb | Mellow: linux-image-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
| 01:54.44 | enouf | judd: versions linux-image-2.6-686 --release lenny-backports |
| 01:54.45 | judd | enouf: linux-image-2.6-686 -- |
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| 01:54.51 | Mellow | I see ... thank you! |
| 01:55.06 | enouf | judd: versions linux-image-2.6.29-686 --release lenny-backports |
| 01:55.06 | judd | enouf: linux-image-2.6.29-686 -- |
| 01:55.10 | enouf | grah |
| 01:55.21 | s14ck | how can I patch a sid kernel? |
| 01:55.22 | enouf | judd: versions linux-image-686 --release lenny-backports |
| 01:55.24 | judd | enouf: linux-image-686 -- |
| 01:55.34 | enouf | gives up |
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| 01:55.49 | sdeb | hi , how do i install last kernel , from debian repo ? |
| 01:55.55 | enouf | s14ck: patch? install the patch pkg |
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| 01:56.03 | johnakabean | hey everyone; which processor would you recommend the core 2 duo http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4389474&sku=I69-5400 OR the Pentium D http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4389476&sku=I69-1500 |
| 01:56.10 | enouf | sdeb: last? repo or source? |
| 01:56.22 | johnakabean | this server is going to just be for DNS and DHCP |
| 01:56.35 | pngwn | johnakabean, try #hardware |
| 01:56.37 | enouf | core2duo |
| 01:56.38 | sdeb | enouf : last repo |
| 01:56.45 | s14ck | enouf, but I need re-make the module et al |
| 01:56.48 | johnakabean | enouf, the core 2 is the cheapest |
| 01:56.49 | enouf | the Pentium Ds are old p4 based crap |
| 01:56.56 | Mellow | got it! |
| 01:57.04 | Mellow | thank you very, very much enouf and adb and judd! |
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| 01:57.05 | enouf | bingo |
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| 01:57.11 | johnakabean | yeah the pentium d I'm looking at is the wolfdale |
| 01:57.29 | johnakabean | its not like the rest of the D's |
| 01:57.49 | Mellow | how could it be solved, that my mouse is slows down sooo extremly when working? My Computer is not the fastest, BUT I never had such an experience while on "kubuntu" |
| 01:57.52 | enouf | http://www.informit.com/articles/printerfriendly.aspx?p=404293 johnakabean |
| 01:58.04 | Mellow | now, on Debian Lenny, my mouse slows down when a process works in the background |
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| 01:58.16 | Mellow | e.g. opening a program, using aptitude install ... |
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| 01:58.29 | adb | Mellow: rebooted in kernel .29 bpo ? |
| 01:58.30 | Mellow | but: my mousepad still works perfectly |
| 01:58.37 | Mellow | abd not yet |
| 01:58.44 | adb | reboot |
| 01:58.50 | enouf | synaptic or xorg.conf issue? evdev even? |
| 01:58.55 | Mellow | abd could it become better with the new kernel? |
| 01:59.00 | enouf | reboot indeed |
| 01:59.03 | Mellow | LOL |
| 01:59.05 | Mellow | oki ! |
| 01:59.07 | johnakabean | enouf: the link I posted is not for 90nm, its a 45 nm |
| 01:59.08 | Mellow | see you soon! |
| 01:59.23 | johnakabean | got to be something about it they redid |
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| 01:59.31 | enouf | johnakabean: well, then i don't know - depends on whether it's netburst arch or core arch |
| 01:59.47 | enouf | erm core2 even .. since core were the Yonahs and shit |
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| 02:00.35 | adb | johnakabean: how many clients will have this server ? |
| 02:00.44 | johnakabean | 250 |
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| 02:00.52 | johnakabean | just for DHCP and DNS |
| 02:01.01 | johnakabean | DNS is public though |
| 02:01.07 | johnakabean | not for recursive lookups though |
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| 02:01.16 | adb | how ram ? |
| 02:01.20 | johnakabean | 2 gigs |
| 02:01.36 | johnakabean | I'm only compiling Debian with BARE minimums |
| 02:01.54 | adb | compiling ? |
| 02:01.59 | johnakabean | installing |
| 02:02.03 | adb | ah |
| 02:02.19 | johnakabean | I'm installing bare minimums and compiling everything beyond kernel and GCC from scratch |
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| 02:03.20 | adb | needs GCC for ? |
| 02:03.28 | johnakabean | compiling software |
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| 02:04.01 | adb | so is a build server ? |
| 02:04.21 | enouf | johnakabean: http://www.techspot.com/review/85-intel-core-2-wolfdale-vs-conroe/ |
| 02:04.26 | johnakabean | just lacking the processor; its a replacement for another one that is half the speed |
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| 02:05.18 | johnakabean | old one is athlon 3200 |
| 02:05.21 | johnakabean | xp |
| 02:05.22 | enouf | johnakabean: no friggin clue why they/you would call them pentium Ds though |
| 02:05.29 | johnakabean | lol |
| 02:05.34 | johnakabean | i told you they redid the line |
| 02:05.41 | johnakabean | that's why i'm confused |
| 02:05.49 | johnakabean | i would also pick core 2 over it anyway |
| 02:05.58 | johnakabean | if i didn't discover this new info |
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| 02:06.23 | enouf | http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-wolfdale_3.html |
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| 02:06.55 | enouf | it is a core2 |
| 02:06.57 | enouf | The Wolfdale processor family announced these days that is based on 45nm cores will initially include three Core 2 Duo processor models: E8500, E8400 and E8200 with 3.16GHz, 3.0GHz and 2.66GHz respective clock speeds. |
| 02:07.20 | enouf | some asshat advert bozo misnamed it |
| 02:07.25 | johnakabean | yeah but the pentium D I'm looking is a 45nm wolfdale |
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| 02:07.50 | sdeb | can i build debian and install ii from source like gentoo ? |
| 02:07.54 | johnakabean | either way, i'm looking for the best one with a max fsb of 800mhz |
| 02:07.55 | enouf | yes |
| 02:07.56 | Mellow | re :) |
| 02:07.58 | sdeb | it* |
| 02:08.02 | qiyong | is it good to use autofs on /home? |
| 02:08.04 | Mellow | well, my mouse is PERFECT now :) |
| 02:08.09 | Mellow | the kernel works as well |
| 02:08.13 | Mellow | I love you guys :) |
| 02:08.15 | Mellow | thank you! |
| 02:08.15 | enouf | \o/ |
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| 02:08.36 | enouf | johnakabean: no it isn |
| 02:08.42 | Mellow | one li'll quesion: On kubuntu, my "DVB-T" device worked out of the box with "kaffene" (Kernel 2.6.28) |
| 02:08.47 | enouf | johnakabean: no it isn't |
| 02:08.58 | Mellow | on debian lenny, I get the following output in tail -f /var/log/syslog |
| 02:09.06 | Mellow | http://pastebin.com/d5223cdda |
| 02:09.21 | Mellow | the last line seems to give me the information that it will not work |
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| 02:09.47 | Mellow | but some lines above you can see it know that I've got a pineapple device |
| 02:09.51 | Mellow | pineaccle? |
| 02:09.53 | Mellow | whatever g |
| 02:10.01 | Lirion | pinnacle |
| 02:10.08 | enouf | see #v4l Mellow |
| 02:10.19 | adb | firmware: requesting dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw |
| 02:10.20 | Mellow | ha, that one should be installed as well! |
| 02:10.23 | enouf | er .. |
| 02:10.23 | Mellow | I remember :) |
| 02:10.39 | johnakabean | enouf: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4389474&sku=I69-5400 |
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| 02:11.16 | adb | johnakabean: go #hardware please |
| 02:11.44 | Mellow | enouf: that one? libpt-1.11.2-plugins-v4l2 |
| 02:12.12 | Mellow | I really enjoy to be back in the Debian community :) |
| 02:12.22 | Mellow | kubuntu was a big mistake in my past! |
| 02:12.45 | Alam_Lenny | why? |
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| 02:13.02 | Mellow | because its so extremly unmature |
| 02:13.20 | Mellow | Alam_Lenny: so buggy, every version they present you new never before seen bugs |
| 02:13.26 | enouf | johnakabean: go argue with people in #hardware then, i don't know wtf with intel nomenclature |
| 02:13.31 | Mellow | and the best: Bugs which have been solved 3 version ago come back :) |
| 02:13.41 | enouf | coreduo2singlequad2duocore |
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| 02:14.20 | enouf | Mellow: i don't know, i don't use DVBs |
| 02:14.40 | enouf | Mellow: usually firmware belongs in /lib/firmware though |
| 02:15.40 | Mellow | where does "kaffeine" save personal settings to? |
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| 02:15.58 | Mellow | I want to delete the .kaffeine folder but this folder does not exist, how is it named? |
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| 02:16.08 | sdeb | iam sorry but you should read this :: why ubuntu tops debian : http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200710/ij_10_10_07b.html |
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| 02:16.12 | enouf | You have searched for packages that names contain dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw in all suites, all sections, and all architectures. Sorry, your search gave no results |
| 02:16.25 | enouf | Mellow: you likely need to get it from the Manu site |
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| 02:17.14 | enouf | Mellow: something in ~/.kde/* perhaps |
| 02:17.23 | craigevil | Mellow: .kde/share/config/kaffeinerc and/or .kde/share/apps/kaffeine |
| 02:17.41 | enouf | find . -iname 'kaffeine*' |
| 02:17.46 | Mellow | thank you craigevil and enouf |
| 02:17.54 | enouf | i bet there's /etc/ crap too |
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| 02:19.04 | Valcor | Evening all, just got around to upgrading my amdx64 box to lenny, and now proftpd is throwing a seg fault on the mysql module... kernel logs are pointing to libc... proftpd[5601] general protection ip:7f9ffdc95030 sp:7fff06bd9dc8 error:0 in libc-2.7.so[7f9ffdc1a000+14a000] |
| 02:19.08 | Valcor | anybody seen that before? |
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| 02:20.00 | Mellow | enouf: I found the firmware ... should I just save it to /lib/firmware without any installation or soft linking? |
| 02:20.34 | enouf | Mellow: i think so - read whatever docs come with it |
| 02:20.47 | adb | Valcor: asked google for error |
| 02:21.09 | Valcor | adb: yea, lots of links to bug trackers that end up closing with "not enough info" or "bug is probably other program" |
| 02:21.35 | enouf | Valcor: checked the BTS? |
| 02:21.36 | Mellow | ok, thank you so far! |
| 02:21.37 | enouf | that |
| 02:21.42 | Mellow | will be back soon! |
| 02:22.08 | enouf | judd: versions libc6 --release lenny |
| 02:22.09 | judd | enouf: libc6 -- lenny: 2.7-18 |
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| 02:22.26 | Valcor | enouf: BTS? |
| 02:22.34 | enouf | !bts |
| 02:22.34 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 02:22.49 | Valcor | ahh, yes, those are where I have found the trackers that get closed |
| 02:23.31 | Valcor | for example http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=485464 |
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| 02:23.45 | enouf | !dbugs 485464 |
| 02:23.49 | dpkg | DONE:#485464:N[linux-image-2.6.25-2-amd64] linux-image-2.6.25-2-amd64: Memory and file corruption after running for few days (); Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:03:01 UTC [] |
| 02:24.00 | Valcor | closed with "not enough info" |
| 02:24.26 | adb | Valcor: uname -r |
| 02:24.40 | Valcor | 2.6.26-2-amd64 |
| 02:25.01 | adb | so , no 2.6.25-2-amd64 as in bug ... |
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| 02:25.56 | Valcor | right, though that bug report is odd, as it says he's using an intel chip, with the amd kernel *shrugs* |
| 02:27.02 | Valcor | still, version behind, but similar issues |
| 02:27.05 | adb | your chip is ? |
| 02:27.07 | enouf | Valcor: diff kernel version |
| 02:27.07 | Valcor | found others with strace, and copy |
| 02:27.21 | enouf | stop using proftpd |
| 02:27.27 | enouf | !proftpd |
| 02:27.27 | dpkg | i guess proftpd is a professional GPL'd FTP server for UNIX and UNIX-like operating systems. ProFTPd is also L33t as Flood's butt., down, something, dropped from all the other dists because they can't keep security holes out of it... ask me about <vsftpd> if you don't need any ProFTPd specific features. Contributed tools and modules: http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/ . http://www.proftpd.org/ #proftpd on irc.freenode.net. See also <ftpd>. |
| 02:28.09 | enouf | general protection ip:7f9ffdc95030 sp:7fff06bd9dc8 error:0 in libc-2.7.so[7f9ffdc1a000+14a000] |
| 02:28.16 | Valcor | heh, weird... you pay hosting for an AMD chip, and they drop you on an intel chip |
| 02:28.19 | Valcor | go figure |
| 02:28.31 | enouf | sure sounds like it could be security related |
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| 02:29.10 | Valcor | enouf: could be... was working fine, and is only crapping out on the SQL module, and not any other modules |
| 02:29.16 | Valcor | will check out vsftpd |
| 02:29.45 | enouf | Valcor: you might try #debian-amd64 just to see if they know anything, but it's a devel channel ..so |
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| 02:30.10 | jesseboy | so guys, can I get debian etch somewhere? 4.0 |
| 02:30.19 | jesseboy | whats the mirror for that? |
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| 02:30.52 | Valcor | enouf: will stick my head in, thanks for the hint |
| 02:31.01 | Valcor | in the mean time, will check out vsftpd too |
| 02:31.28 | enouf | jesseboy: archives.debian.org - or oldstable |
| 02:31.46 | enouf | for the Installer? likely ado |
| 02:32.02 | enouf | jesseboy: why Etch? |
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| 02:32.48 | jesseboy | cause the hp tools i need run on etch |
| 02:32.50 | jesseboy | they made them for it |
| 02:33.12 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.24 | jesseboy | yep for prolient servers. a dl 380 g3 |
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| 02:33.37 | jesseboy | the monitoring tools |
| 02:33.47 | jesseboy | hpasm hprsm, hp-openpmi |
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| 02:34.36 | enouf | http://wiki.debian.org/ServerHardware |
| 02:34.43 | enouf | crap ... old |
| 02:34.54 | enouf | though ServerHardware (last edited 2009-03-16 03:36:53 by localhost) |
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| 02:35.38 | reptile | pidgin won't apt-get install http://pastebin.com/m7f422d0e |
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| 02:36.32 | adb | reptile: lenny ? |
| 02:37.15 | reptile | yeah lenny. actually it's installing now, but i had to manually apt-get the dependancies. |
| 02:37.28 | reptile | no biggie now, but what if there were a ton of dependancies. |
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| 02:38.33 | adb | reptile: use backports |
| 02:39.44 | adb | reptile: dpkg -i pidgin | grep ii |
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| 02:40.02 | adb | err |
| 02:40.08 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:40.09 | dpkg | No packages found matching pidgin | grep ii |
| 02:41.24 | Valcor | hrm... vsftpd doesn't seem to do nearly any of what I need |
| 02:41.30 | enouf | jesseboy: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&swItem=MTX-9879191f26b94273b175827110&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN ?? |
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| 02:55.13 | enouf | Insight Management SNMP Agents for HP ProLiant Systems The HP SNMP Agents (hp-snmp-agents) is a collection of SNMP protocol based agents and tools which enables monitoring of fans, power supplies, temperature sensors and other management events via SNMP. To install the hp-snmp-agents package, run: # apt-get install hp-snmp-agents |
| 02:55.39 | enouf | he ProLiant Management Command Line Interface Utility (hpasmcli), the ProLiant Integrated Management Log (IML) Utility (hplog), and the UID (blue) Light Utility (hpuid). To install the hp-health package, run: # apt-get install hp-health |
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| 02:57.54 | MadMoney | Debian is failing in Virtual Box. |
| 02:58.04 | MadMoney | Kernel panic - not seeking |
| 02:58.05 | MadMoney | WTF? |
| 02:58.13 | MadMoney | It was working for a while. |
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| 03:00.31 | MadMoney | Debian Linux was working well in Virtual Bosx (host XP Home), not it says kernel panic - not seeking when I was rebooting! I rebooted again and now it is working again. |
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| 03:01.36 | MadMoney | Why is this so bad at reliable?! |
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| 03:04.34 | enouf | the host is upchucking and falling all over itself because it's never seen anything so beautiful |
| 03:04.47 | MadMoney | hehe |
| 03:04.56 | MadMoney | So you are blaming hardware? |
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| 03:05.22 | faffi | God damn, anyone in here use broadcome wireless drivers? My module is giving me the device i need but it doesnt respond to any commands |
| 03:05.48 | enouf | i'd probably go with PEBKAC as first guess :-) |
| 03:06.20 | enouf | faffi: lspci -nn | grep -i bcm ? |
| 03:06.44 | faffi | enouf: 0c:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g [14e4:4315] (rev 01) |
| 03:06.58 | faffi | I looked it up on the wiki, its not supported by the fwcutter thingy |
| 03:07.00 | enouf | judd pciid 14e4:4315 |
| 03:07.01 | judd | enouf: [14e4:4315] is 'BCM4312 802.11b/g' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'ssb' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4315 |
| 03:07.13 | enouf | faffi: uname -r |
| 03:07.20 | faffi | enouf: i'm running squeeze, kernel is 2.6.26-2 |
| 03:07.31 | enouf | description: Sonics Silicon Backplane driver |
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| 03:07.43 | enouf | faffi: you should try the 29 from sid |
| 03:07.56 | faffi | i grabbed the .29 kernel from backports but i couldnt compile anything since a package dependency for the kernel headers didnt exist |
| 03:08.07 | enouf | you don't need to compile anything |
| 03:08.14 | enouf | and don |
| 03:08.16 | faffi | my nvidia drivers :) |
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| 03:08.23 | enouf | and don't grab the backports one |
| 03:08.30 | enouf | not when using Squeeze |
| 03:08.33 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.41 | adb | in bpo |
| 03:08.49 | faffi | enouf: bleh, thats what abrotman told me to do yesterday |
| 03:08.54 | enouf | if really needed you could build the linux-kbuild- yourself |
| 03:09.13 | faffi | ok |
| 03:09.27 | faffi | I already have a copy of the .29-bpo kernel |
| 03:09.46 | faffi | 2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
| 03:09.52 | faffi | its from backports, should i remove it |
| 03:10.20 | enouf | judd: info linux-headers-2.6.29-2-686 |
| 03:10.32 | enouf | judd: versions linux-headers-2.6.29-2-686 |
| 03:10.33 | judd | enouf: linux-headers-2.6.29-2-686 -- |
| 03:10.38 | enouf | judd: versions linux-headers-2.6.29-5-686 |
| 03:10.38 | judd | enouf: linux-headers-2.6.29-5-686 -- |
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| 03:10.55 | enouf | !info linux-headers-2.6.29-2-686 |
| 03:11.37 | enouf | sings the jeopardy theme |
| 03:11.41 | jesseboy | anyone know where I can get debian etch 4.0 download |
| 03:11.53 | enouf | !info linux-headers-2.6.29-5-686 |
| 03:12.10 | adb | in bpo enouf |
| 03:12.10 | faffi | lol |
| 03:12.14 | enouf | 23:01 <dpkg> Package 'linux-headers-2.6.29-5-686' does not exist ouch |
| 03:12.29 | enouf | adb: that's stupid |
| 03:12.36 | adb | well |
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| 03:12.46 | faffi | :/ |
| 03:12.57 | adb | linux-headers-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
| 03:13.07 | faffi | what is puzzling me even more is WHY my module suddenly stopped working |
| 03:13.11 | adb | http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/i386/linux-headers-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
| 03:13.36 | faffi | adb: look at the depedency's, kbuild doesnt exist >_> |
| 03:13.42 | enouf | how could the fucken headers not be available for a kernel i've been running for weeks? |
| 03:13.50 | enouf | faffi: 22:58 < enouf> if really needed you could build the linux-kbuild- yourself |
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| 03:14.03 | faffi | hmmm ok, how would i do that |
| 03:14.12 | enouf | duh |
| 03:14.13 | enouf | linux-headers-2.6.30-1-686 - Header files for Linux 2.6.30-1-686 |
| 03:14.23 | enouf | use 30 \o/ |
| 03:14.37 | faffi | O_O use .30 headers for a .29 kernel? |
| 03:14.47 | enouf | install and use 30 from sid |
| 03:14.55 | enouf | ... |
| 03:14.59 | faffi | oh |
| 03:15.08 | adb | faffi: wget http://212.147.100.100/linux-kbuild-2.6.29_2.6.29-1_i386.deb |
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| 03:15.40 | faffi | bleh, i need to add a sid repo |
| 03:15.47 | adb | no |
| 03:15.49 | faffi | no? |
| 03:15.51 | enouf | do NOT use a backports kernel with squeeze - that's my advice |
| 03:15.57 | enouf | faffi: no |
| 03:16.00 | Valcor | hah, bug #516780... same error, says it was fixed in the version I have installed *sighs* |
| 03:16.01 | rmrf | Hi. I was a bit careless with dd and accidentally nuked my /boot. I've remade the fs, re-installed the linux-image package for my arch, and re-run grub-install. Am I missing anything else, or should that work? |
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| 03:16.07 | enouf | just goi get the .debs from pdo |
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| 03:16.38 | faffi | enouf: ok, so i should apt-get purge my .29 i got from backports correct? im currently booted into .26-2 |
| 03:17.19 | adb | faffi: no |
| 03:17.20 | Valcor | enouf: #517680 is the same error I'm getting for proftpd, but with postgresql, and supposidly fixed |
| 03:17.39 | faffi | adb: how should i remove linux-image-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
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| 03:17.54 | rmrf | Anyone? |
| 03:17.55 | reptile | hi |
| 03:17.59 | enouf | faffi: apt-get --purge remove ... |
| 03:18.04 | adb | Valcor: tell this to bts , not here |
| 03:18.06 | enouf | or aptitude purge |
| 03:18.16 | reptile | i installed wireless-tools yet ath5k does not work. |
| 03:18.16 | adb | rmrf: it's ok |
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| 03:18.20 | enouf | faffi: are you sure you have a bootable working kernel? |
| 03:18.26 | faffi | enouf: ya |
| 03:18.26 | enouf | other thant that one? |
| 03:18.28 | enouf | ok |
| 03:18.30 | reptile | my card is supported (apparently). |
| 03:18.50 | enouf | Valcor: ok - well .. dunno :-/ |
| 03:19.04 | rmrf | adb: So you think that should be all I needed to do? |
| 03:19.09 | enouf | Valcor: refile the bug?> reopen it? |
| 03:19.19 | enouf | !reportbug |
| 03:19.19 | dpkg | [reportbug] used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s03.html for some general info about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug |
| 03:19.33 | faffi | ok, so now i need a .deb for the .30 kernel and for the headers |
| 03:19.34 | reptile | i went according to http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k |
| 03:19.43 | adb | rmrf: yes |
| 03:20.38 | rmrf | adb: Right. Thanks. |
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| 03:21.45 | enouf | faffi: the -image and -headers are there |
| 03:21.52 | adb | faffi: .30 has no kbuild ... |
| 03:21.57 | enouf | faffi: to get the -kbuild /msg dpkg trunk kernel |
| 03:22.01 | Staz | Hi there, is anybody here running dynamic 6to4 on Debian Lenny? |
| 03:22.05 | Staz | I would like to know the best way to go about it. |
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| 03:23.39 | enouf | faffi: ahh .. it IS there; linux-kbuild-2.6.30 - Kbuild infrastructure for Linux 2.6.3 |
| 03:23.55 | wwarrior | anybody here knows the name of the aplication behind " packages.debian.org " ?? |
| 03:24.09 | faffi | enouf: that makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside |
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| 03:24.25 | faffi | enouf: Ok, so im grabbing the kernel, headers-2.6.30-686 and the kbuild |
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| 03:24.34 | enouf | faffi: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1478004 |
| 03:24.50 | alkyC | when i open dialogues in some applications the bottom of the box will go out of view at the bottom of the screen and i won't be able to select certain buttons (e.g. OK, Apply, Cancel) at the bottom of the dialogue box. is there a way to make it so that nothing can go below the bar ? |
| 03:24.56 | enouf | $ apt-cache show linux-headers-2.6.30-1-686 linux-image-2.6.30-1-686 linux-kbuild-2.6.30 | grep Filename |
| 03:24.57 | Schizoid | Hello |
| 03:24.59 | faffi | enouf: awesome, thank you |
| 03:25.07 | enouf | welcome ... |
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| 03:25.19 | reptile | ath5k doesent work. |
| 03:25.25 | alkyC | i cant change resolution as its on the max it will allow |
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| 03:25.54 | faffi | enouf: the apt-cache doesnt give me any results |
| 03:26.12 | enouf | faffi: without sid sources and an updatew, it wont! |
| 03:26.14 | Schizoid | I used aptitude to install mysql-server, I then used it to 'remove' mysql-server. I then deleted /etc/mysql and /var/lib/mysql. Now when I do aptitude install mysql-server it creates the /etc/mysql dir but it doesnt put any of the default config files in it. |
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| 03:26.24 | enouf | faffi: go d/l the .debs manually and dpkg -i them |
| 03:26.29 | enouf | !pdo |
| 03:26.30 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 03:26.33 | faffi | enouf: thats what i was gonna do :) |
| 03:26.46 | faffi | enouf: ya i know without the sid sources it wont lol |
| 03:27.00 | reptile | i can see wlan0 under iwconfig, but iwlist wlan0 scanning --> wlan0 No scan results |
| 03:27.13 | reptile | am i supposed to configure /etc/network/interfaces too ? |
| 03:27.29 | enouf | faffi: i was just showing, i was having trouble finding the linux-kbuild-XXX pkg b/c my naming constraints were too tight |
| 03:27.32 | reptile | i ran ifconfig wlan up prior to scanning. |
| 03:27.39 | enouf | in my searching of cache |
| 03:27.44 | enouf | afer updating it |
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| 03:28.14 | faffi | ahhh gotcha |
| 03:28.16 | enouf | reptile: yes, /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 03:28.33 | enouf | and see the general wiki.debian.org/WiFi page(s) |
| 03:29.46 | reptile | thanx |
| 03:29.54 | Sloloem | I have a bit of an odd situation. The best way to describe it is that several login prompts have been spawned on the same terminal, and it looks like my commands are being interpreted by both the logged in shell and the prompt in different orders. When I type a command at "login: " it executes. Then shows me a command prompt. When I type a command there, it prompts me for a password, and if I type a command there, it executes. |
| 03:30.12 | enouf | !wifi |
| 03:30.12 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>, <madwifi>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <ipw3945>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wmaster0>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
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| 03:30.31 | enouf | heh - just took a long time to resolve ... |
| 03:30.43 | enouf | the URL i thought, was incorrect |
| 03:30.44 | faffi | alright, reboot time |
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| 03:31.27 | wwarrior | !packages.debian.org |
| 03:31.27 | dpkg | i heard packages.debian.org is the place to look what packages are in debian, see also apt-get.org and apt-cache search |
| 03:32.11 | enouf | the wiki../WiFi one i meant |
| 03:32.39 | enouf | more to the point http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 03:33.02 | wwarrior | anybody knows the software behind packages.debian.org ? |
| 03:33.12 | enouf | !listkeys wifi howto |
| 03:33.13 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'wifi howto' by key (2): wifi howto ;; _default wifi howto. |
| 03:33.18 | enouf | oh .. heh |
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| 03:33.42 | enouf | wwarrior: the pages don't say? |
| 03:34.11 | wwarrior | enouf, nope |
| 03:34.14 | enouf | http://packages.debian.org/about/ |
| 03:35.00 | wwarrior | there it is |
| 03:35.10 | wwarrior | enouf, sorry and thanks |
| 03:35.15 | enouf | np |
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| 03:36.21 | muhoo | is there some way i can fake mount directories elsewhere in a fs? |
| 03:36.27 | muhoo | i.e. without symbolic links. |
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| 03:37.31 | enouf | why fake? and what do you mean without symlinks? |
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| 03:37.46 | CompWizrd | like a union mount? |
| 03:38.00 | enouf | you could create a file and mount it as a block device using losetup/loop |
| 03:38.18 | enouf | once you generate the file and run mkfs on it |
| 03:38.37 | CompWizrd | think he was looking for the --bind option for mount |
| 03:38.54 | enouf | yeah, i thouhg he might too - but he mentioned nothing about sharing |
| 03:39.14 | CompWizrd | there's a --move too |
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| 03:45.13 | enouf | adb: didn't you post a site with the link to grab xserver-xorg-core ... -2 over verion -3 yesterday? -3 has broken DRI2 or something? got that again please? |
| 03:45.37 | enouf | adb: was it the .no mirror? |
| 03:46.14 | adb | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian |
| 03:46.30 | enouf | adb: ahh .nl |
| 03:46.37 | enouf | thanks adb |
| 03:46.40 | adb | yw |
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| 03:50.09 | enouf | adb: gah .. it's got only -3 now :-/ |
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| 03:52.29 | enouf | adb: same for .no :-P |
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| 03:56.43 | jesseboy | anyone know |
| 03:56.44 | jesseboy | ... |
| 03:56.47 | enouf | and all 3 google results :-P |
| 03:56.50 | jesseboy | where I can get the etch cd image |
| 03:57.04 | enouf | jesseboy: ado, i thought |
| 03:57.26 | enouf | jesseboy: did you see what i posted about HP Proliant and Lenny ? |
| 03:57.32 | jetscreamer | try a mirror |
| 03:57.48 | jetscreamer | just go through the list |
| 03:57.59 | jetscreamer | there's always some that haven't done the new |
| 03:58.30 | jetscreamer | i found a few looking for lenny iirc |
| 04:00.07 | jesseboy | no missed it enouf sorry. can you post again |
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| 04:00.42 | adb | jesseboy: scroll up |
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| 04:01.13 | reptyle | hi |
| 04:01.21 | reptyle | sauvin: hi |
| 04:01.32 | reptyle | i noticed dmesg says --> [ 525.703145] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready |
| 04:01.47 | reptyle | what does that mean |
| 04:01.54 | adb | not ready |
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| 04:01.58 | sauvin | Sorry, I've not been paying any attention. |
| 04:02.13 | sauvin | Looks to me like wlan0 isn't taking any callers atm. |
| 04:04.23 | enouf | jesseboy: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&swItem=MTX-9879191f26b94273b175827110&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN |
| 04:04.31 | jesseboy | k got it |
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| 04:04.34 | jesseboy | yah thanks |
| 04:04.36 | reptyle | well how do i make it ready |
| 04:04.44 | enouf | jesseboy: and http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?swItem=MTX-9879191f26b94273b175827110&lang=en&cc=us&idx=1&mode=4& |
| 04:05.01 | enouf | jesseboy: see the PDF too |
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| 04:06.40 | enouf | reptyle: you've been through all the ath5k stuff on the wiki.debian.org? |
| 04:06.48 | enouf | reptyle: which debian release? |
| 04:06.51 | enouf | and which kernel? |
| 04:07.05 | enouf | does that thing need firmware? |
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| 04:08.17 | sauvin | enouf, you old rat, why are you hiding from everybody? |
| 04:08.36 | enouf | sauvin: you mean cause i'm not in -coders? that place sucks ass |
| 04:08.48 | enouf | and most the ops are fucken assholes :-0 |
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| 04:09.07 | sauvin | I've created a new place, ##codesmith, not a lot of people (yet) but you may find it a bit more genial. |
| 04:09.30 | enouf | sauvin: i don't need nor want geniality ;-) |
| 04:09.35 | sauvin | Mmkay :D |
| 04:09.42 | enouf | but, i'll visit |
| 04:09.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | he meant genital |
| 04:09.50 | sauvin | I, however, am no asshole, and I'm the *founder*. |
| 04:09.58 | enouf | !genetaliasmite CutMeOwnThroat |
| 04:10.11 | enouf | spell it correctly! |
| 04:10.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | 'it'3 |
| 04:10.36 | reptyle | enouf: im on lenny |
| 04:10.58 | adb | reptyle: uname -r |
| 04:11.01 | enouf | reptyle: uname -r |
| 04:11.05 | enouf | heh |
| 04:11.09 | sauvin | Heh. |
| 04:11.11 | reptyle | yes i have been through http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k |
| 04:11.22 | reptyle | 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 04:11.29 | enouf | sauvin: ;-) |
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| 04:12.57 | ZeroDamage | Is there any reason that this command will not work on Lenny? Is there some restriction with the kernel? iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT |
| 04:13.09 | enouf | reptyle: pastebin output of cat /var/log/dmesg and also tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog - and that looks like a debian kernel, did you compile it though? |
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| 04:13.22 | ZeroDamage | I get this error: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name |
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| 04:14.28 | adb | ZeroDamage: try #iptables |
| 04:15.05 | reptyle | No i did not compile it. I installed the Lenny Kde CD. http://pastebin.com/m4aad2e6d |
| 04:15.12 | ZeroDamage | adb: Already did. syntax is right. something with debian? |
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| 04:15.28 | adb | ZeroDamage: i dunno |
| 04:15.30 | enouf | reptyle: are you or have you tried kwifimanager? if you didn't don't |
| 04:15.40 | reptyle | ok |
| 04:15.57 | enouf | if it's even still called that |
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| 04:16.12 | enouf | reptyle: also show us /etc/network/interfaces and ls /sys/class/net |
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| 04:17.59 | reptyle | The scan is complete, but no networks have been found. |
| 04:18.04 | reptyle | ok i'll pastebin that |
| 04:18.16 | enouf | reptyle: and you said you _have_ tried the madwifi drivers at one point? |
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| 04:19.07 | reptyle | enouf: i have with Kubuntu and it didn't work. The only occurance with this wifi card working was when i ran backtrack3. |
| 04:19.23 | enouf | 596. Jun 28 23:41:05 smax kernel: [ 18.931049] ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2425 chip found (MAC: 0xe2, PHY: 0x70) |
| 04:19.37 | reptyle | http://pastebin.com/m4aa6c04b |
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| 04:19.43 | enouf | 593. Jun 28 23:41:05 smax kernel: [ 18.798518] ath5k_pci 0000:05:00.0: registered as 'phy0' |
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| 04:21.41 | reptyle | hmmm |
| 04:21.47 | reptyle | i wonder how that happened |
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| 04:22.38 | enouf | reptyle: where's your entries for wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 04:23.30 | reptyle | enouf: i was just going to manually bring up the interface via, iwconfig essid myrouter ; dhclient |
| 04:23.31 | reptyle | but it can't reach it |
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| 04:23.47 | enouf | try the stuff here; under "To try the driver you can do this:" http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k |
| 04:23.47 | reptyle | otherwise it would be seen in iwlist |
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| 04:24.14 | reptyle | what about the ---> ath5k_pci 0000:05:00.0: registered as 'phy0' |
| 04:24.19 | enouf | and see if ifconfig -a lists wlan0 as being UP or whatever |
| 04:24.54 | reptyle | wlan0 is listed under ifconfig -a |
| 04:25.02 | enouf | i think that's phy link related, and quite fine - though not 100% |
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| 04:26.19 | reptyle | what do i need http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k for? I already have ath5k loaded |
| 04:26.25 | reptyle | listed under lsmod |
| 04:26.38 | enouf | sudo ip link set wlan%d up sudo iwconfig wlan%d essid any |
| 04:26.50 | enouf | i guess you can't read too well |
| 04:27.04 | reptyle | am i supposed to configure that kernel stuff too ? |
| 04:27.08 | enouf | no |
| 04:27.11 | enouf | it's done |
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| 04:27.32 | reptyle | so what did you want me to read ? |
| 04:27.36 | enouf | that's WHY i pointed you to a SPECIFIC SECTION! |
| 04:28.39 | enouf | reptyle: and i suck at wifi - many others might be able to help, if not please try #debian at irc.debian.org/irc.OFTC.net |
| 04:28.47 | rhys | wifi? |
| 04:29.00 | rhys | ? im on my phone but hm? |
| 04:29.28 | enouf | hang up that phone! |
| 04:29.30 | enouf | :-p |
| 04:29.44 | rhys | no, like, im typing FROM my phone |
| 04:30.01 | enouf | wow, how retarded |
| 04:30.02 | enouf | :-P |
| 04:30.21 | rhys | hey. my os is installing, so android gets pressed to do music/irc |
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| 04:30.27 | enouf | i can barely type on a full sized keyboard |
| 04:30.29 | rhys | hail android |
| 04:31.05 | adb | enouf: file a real keyboard to rhys |
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| 04:31.42 | rhys | i have the g1 with a HUGE battery, makes it really easy to hold. so i can do rather well. |
| 04:32.03 | enouf | reptyle: is the iproute pkg installed? |
| 04:32.50 | reptyle | no becuase http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k didn't tell me to. |
| 04:33.33 | enouf | reptyle: once it is; as root/sudo "ip link set wlan0 up" and root/sudo "iwconfig wlan0 essid NNNNNNNNN |
| 04:33.55 | enouf | what is the ESSID supposed to be? no idea - a name - a number |
| 04:34.09 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:34.12 | rhys | iwlist wlan0 scan | less |
| 04:34.12 | enouf | !wifi howto |
| 04:34.12 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN HOWTO is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux Additional resources and links to related information/websites also available. See also http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi and http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 04:34.26 | rhys | iwlist scan to find the essid |
| 04:34.32 | enouf | http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse <-- i posted that for you earlier |
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| 04:34.50 | reptyle | yeah, what rhys said. |
| 04:35.04 | reptyle | i was going to manually set the essid with iwconfig essid myrouter |
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| 04:35.41 | enouf | rhys: is he supposed to still have a wmaster0 even though now using ath5k and not madwifi? |
| 04:35.47 | enouf | or whatever |
| 04:36.06 | reptyle | yeah i have a wmaster0 too |
| 04:36.25 | enouf | i know, from you paste of ls /sys/class/net |
| 04:36.27 | rhys | ahhh. wmaster0 is usually to be ignored as its not a control iface. |
| 04:36.47 | alkyC | is it possible to use packages from an unstable release on the current stable one? |
| 04:36.49 | rhys | not sure about those specific drivers though. |
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| 04:37.01 | nkuttler | alkyC: usually not. /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 04:37.14 | alkyC | im looking to download dia-0.97 but its only included in the unstable version |
| 04:37.26 | enouf | http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Documentation/mac80211#The_master_device_wmaster0 |
| 04:37.50 | enouf | rhys: i realize that - just not sure if it's existance is an issue |
| 04:37.57 | enouf | oh ok |
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| 04:38.33 | adb | judd: versions dia |
| 04:38.33 | judd | adb: dia -- etch-security: 0.94.0-17.1etch1 etch: 0.95.0-4.1+b1 lenny: 0.96.1-7.1 squeeze: 0.96.1-7.1 sid: 0.97-2 |
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| 04:38.41 | enouf | reptyle: do you recall if BT3 was using the ath5k or madwifi drivers? |
| 04:38.53 | adb | !ssb |
| 04:38.53 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 04:38.59 | adb | alkyC: ^^ |
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| 04:39.08 | reptyle | it's been a while but i think it's ath5k |
| 04:39.32 | alkyC | i don't get how to add the deb-src line |
| 04:39.43 | enouf | !deb-src |
| 04:39.43 | dpkg | hmm... deb-src is 'deb-src http://http.<CC>.debian.org/debian/ <release> main contrib non-free' (example) where '<CC>' is the Country Code, replace with your own for a local mirror - ask me about <source> or <apt-build> for some info about how to build stuff, make sure "build-essential" is installed, ask me about <module-assistant>. Might need to have linux-headers-`uname -r` (if using a debian kernel) and "libc6-dev" installed. |
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| 04:40.32 | enouf | alkyC: but search/use bpo 1st |
| 04:41.01 | enouf | oh, i suppose there |
| 04:41.19 | alkyC | deb-src http://packages.debian.org/debian sid main |
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| 04:41.20 | alkyC | that right? |
| 04:41.37 | enouf | oh, i suppose there'd be an entry in judd 's output fior lenny-bacports if there was |
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| 04:42.06 | enouf | alkyC: sure. so long as dia, nor it's depends are in contrib or non-free as well |
| 04:42.31 | alkyC | so should i be adding something to that> |
| 04:42.33 | enouf | judd depends dia --release unstable |
| 04:42.34 | judd | enouf: dia -- Depends: libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.18), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.16.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.0), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), libxml2 (>= 2.6.27), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4), dia-common (= 0.97-2), dia-libs (= 0.97-2) |
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| 04:43.25 | adb | alkyC: your deb-src ...is not correct |
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| 04:43.40 | alkyC | adb, could you help me correct it? |
| 04:43.47 | enouf | adb: good catch .. i don;t know what i was looking at :-/ |
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| 04:44.07 | adb | deb-src http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian sid main |
| 04:44.12 | tpocra | The 2.6.30 kernel in sid somehow disables direct rendering for my r500 series graphics card using the radeon driver |
| 04:44.17 | enouf | deb-src http://http.<CC>.debian.org/debian/ \where '<CC>' is the Country Code, replace with your own for a local mirror |
| 04:44.28 | tpocra | Reverting to 2.6.26 works, however. |
| 04:44.39 | alkyC | im guessing uk for uk? |
| 04:44.57 | adb | sre |
| 04:45.01 | adb | sure |
| 04:45.12 | enouf | tpocra: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core | tail -n 1 |
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| 04:46.40 | enouf | tpocra: also try #radeon - maybe even #debian-x on irc.debian.org there's bugs in the -3 version |
| 04:46.47 | tpocra | ii xserver-xorg-core 2:1.6.1.901-3 Xorg X server - core server |
| 04:46.54 | enouf | there ya go |
| 04:47.09 | enouf | 1.6.1.901-3 is bug ridden |
| 04:47.33 | enouf | it's being noted and worked on, or whatever |
| 04:47.52 | tpocra | cool |
| 04:47.57 | tpocra | Thanks for letting me know. |
| 04:48.02 | enouf | tpocra: do you still have -2 in /var/cache/apt/archives ? |
| 04:48.32 | tpocra | Nope |
| 04:48.37 | tpocra | This was a fresh install |
| 04:48.39 | enouf | tpocra: ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives | grep xserver-xorg-core |
| 04:48.48 | enouf | no it wasn't |
| 04:48.58 | enouf | that version wouldn't be on any media |
| 04:49.14 | enouf | and you can't install sid straight anyway |
| 04:49.25 | tpocra | erm, fresh meaning I installed lenny fresh and just updated to sid |
| 04:49.32 | enouf | (well, you can, if you're clever enough) |
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| 04:49.48 | adb | or no |
| 04:49.49 | enouf | ok, so what's the output? |
| 04:49.52 | tpocra | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2309808 2009-06-25 13:49 xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.6.1.901-3_amd64.deb |
| 04:49.55 | enouf | ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives | grep xserver-xorg-core |
| 04:50.04 | enouf | oh well |
| 04:50.09 | enouf | tough macaroons |
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| 04:50.34 | paradigma | good night you know where can I download videos tutorials debian? |
| 04:50.51 | enouf | debconf archives? |
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| 04:51.22 | tpocra | enouf: Wait... but direct rendering works in 2.6.26 |
| 04:51.29 | enouf | debconf{07,08} archives perhaps? |
| 04:51.35 | tpocra | with xserver-xorg-core -3 |
| 04:51.44 | enouf | tpocra: it's DRI2 that's broken IINM |
| 04:52.11 | enouf | tpocra: i'm sure there's many bug reports about it on BTS |
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| 04:52.36 | tpocra | enouf: DRI2 is in the kernel, no? |
| 04:52.42 | enouf | no idea |
| 04:52.45 | sauvin | Passwords aren't stored in /etc/passwd anymore, I've just discovered. Where'd they go? |
| 04:53.04 | \amethyst | !shadow |
| 04:53.13 | enouf | i'm sure the kernel plays a role though |
| 04:53.13 | adb | paradigma: google `download videos tutorials debian` |
| 04:53.13 | hark | tpocra: do you have firmware-linux installed? |
| 04:53.20 | \amethyst | bah |
| 04:53.24 | \amethyst | sauvin: /etc/shadow |
| 04:53.27 | sauvin | Oy. |
| 04:54.01 | tpocra | hark: No |
| 04:54.07 | tpocra | I don't even see it as avilable |
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| 04:54.36 | tpocra | I do not need non-free firmware, as I have an r500 card well supported by the radeon driver |
| 04:54.36 | sauvin | Oh, good grief, have fun cracking those... I have six crash test dummy accounts with the same password, only, the password fields in /etc/shadow for them are all unique. |
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| 04:55.36 | Gnurdux | sauvin, yep |
| 04:56.10 | Gnurdux | this is done to make eg dictionary attacks a bit more difficult |
| 04:56.28 | sauvin | I applaud without reservation. |
| 04:56.32 | Gnurdux | if a password had a unique output, you could just check against a big table of passwords |
| 04:56.59 | Gnurdux | i think even passwd passwords had "salts" |
| 04:58.05 | hark | tpocra: ok then |
| 04:58.26 | sauvin | I'm in no position to confirm that, having zero older distros around, but I *like* this, just hadn't realised it'd happened. |
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| 05:04.51 | enouf | tpocra: http://www.x.org/wiki/DRI2 |
| 05:04.57 | Gnurdux | this happened probably > 15 years ago... |
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| 05:05.53 | Gnurdux | From wikipedia: Password shadowing first appeared in UNIX systems with the development of System V Release 3.2 in 1988 and BSD4.3 Reno in 1990. Vendors which had performed ports from earlier UNIX releases did not include the new password shadowing features, leaving users of those systems exposed to password file attacks. |
| 05:06.12 | hark | upto him, if he doesn't want non-free packages |
| 05:06.15 | hark | afk |
| 05:06.16 | Gnurdux | The Shadow Suite was ported to Linux in 1992 one year later from Linux announcement and became a part of many early distributions. |
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| 05:07.33 | enouf | tpocra: http://www.rojtberg.net/67/exa-uxa-dri-gem-ttm/ .. now, if you read the various say http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_30 and 29 and 28 and look at the various changes concerning DRM, GEM, Kernel-modesetting etc, you might be able to make some sense of it all |
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| 05:13.24 | krabe | what does virtual rack mean? |
| 05:13.37 | enouf | fake boobies? |
| 05:14.41 | enouf | sauvin: IINM, shadowing uses PAM |
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| 05:15.15 | sauvin | I don't believe I have PAM running. |
| 05:15.36 | reptyle | is kernel 2.6.29 in the repos yet? |
| 05:15.44 | reptyle | or is that something i'll need to get from kernel.org |
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| 05:16.07 | reptyle | back |
| 05:16.14 | \amethyst | PAM isn't a daemon, it's a set of libraries that programs (like login, gdm, sshd, etc) use for authentication |
| 05:16.52 | sauvin | So it's an "on demand", never actually running until something needs it, does its thing and then winks out again? |
| 05:16.56 | stew | judd: kernels |
| 05:16.58 | judd | stew: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.30-trunk-686 (2.6.30-1~experimental.1~snapshot.13813); sid: 2.6.30-1-686 (2.6.30-1); squeeze: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-15); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-15); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24) |
| 05:17.10 | \amethyst | sauvin: it's not even a separate program |
| 05:17.21 | sauvin | Just a collection of libs. Gotcha. |
| 05:17.39 | enouf | sauvin: see /etc/pam.d/ ;-) |
| 05:18.18 | sauvin | enouf, I believe I'll do just that. |
| 05:18.29 | enouf | # The PAM configuration file for the Shadow `passwd' service heh |
| 05:19.01 | \amethyst | sauvin: pam_unix is the module that does the /etc/shadow stuff |
| 05:19.39 | sauvin | Yea, I see all these config files, will tinker in a throwaway VM when the mood strikes. |
| 05:19.47 | enouf | password [success=1 default=ignore] pam_unix.so obscure md5 |
| 05:20.08 | phorce1 | reptyle: check bpo, I don't think judd lists kernels from there for lenny |
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| 05:20.31 | enouf | phorce1: --release lenny-backports, though, i'm not sure about kernels |
| 05:20.45 | enouf | phorce1: judd 's been pissing me off in that regard :-p |
| 05:20.54 | reptyle | is it ok to get up to date kernels from kernel.org, or is there a "safer" way. |
| 05:21.19 | enouf | reptyle: you're on lenny? lenny-backports has a 29 kernel |
| 05:21.31 | reptyle | ok |
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| 05:21.45 | enouf | reptyle: /msg dpkg backports |
| 05:22.03 | reptyle | dpkg says Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.30 |
| 05:22.03 | dpkg | reptyle: i don't know |
| 05:22.22 | enouf | reptyle: where? |
| 05:22.27 | reptyle | dpkg kernel |
| 05:22.29 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.30, prepatch: 2.6.31-rc1, snapshot: 2.6.31-rc1-git4, 2.4: 2.4.37.2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.28-rc2-mm1 |
| 05:22.49 | enouf | reptyle: that's kernel.org versions |
| 05:23.01 | phorce1 | enouf: Guerin (I think) was talking about the judd kernels factoid in #d-ot the other day. That's why I remembered that it doesn't show kernels that are on bpo |
| 05:23.08 | enouf | reptyle: those are not debian patched, but feel free to compile :-P |
| 05:23.26 | enouf | reptyle: nor are those .debs for easy installation/removal :-P |
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| 05:23.36 | enouf | phorce1: ahh |
| 05:24.09 | enouf | phorce1: dpkg should list - but you need ... wait .. |
| 05:25.03 | enouf | phorce1: brainfart - i think you need .. wait .. shit |
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| 05:25.37 | enouf | judd: versions linux-image-686 |
| 05:25.37 | judd | enouf: linux-image-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2 lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 squeeze: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 sid: 2.6.29+19 |
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| 05:25.59 | enouf | hrnmm... |
| 05:26.27 | phorce1 | enouf: still doesn't show .29 for lenny. heh |
| 05:26.39 | enouf | i know .. needs an update :-) |
| 05:27.07 | reptyle | Oh, id rather have debian patched. |
| 05:27.23 | adb | for ? |
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| 05:28.39 | reptyle | 686 or 486 ? |
| 05:28.54 | reptyle | all or common ? |
| 05:29.01 | reptyle | linux-headers |
| 05:29.47 | phorce1 | reptyle: did you read the backports factoid? |
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| 05:30.27 | SparFux | Hello all. |
| 05:30.58 | reptyle | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html ? |
| 05:31.35 | SparFux | How can I see the account expire date of a user in debian? |
| 05:32.17 | SparFux | I know I can change it with command usermod. And it should be somewhere stored in /etc/{passwd,shadow}, but I think there should be a command option or whatever to comfortably display it. |
| 05:32.57 | adb | man adduser ? |
| 05:33.28 | SparFux | There is nothing mentioned about the expire date in man adduser. |
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| 05:35.44 | SparFux | Sry, the command is chage(2), thx. |
| 05:35.53 | enouf | SparFux: does a user's account ever expire? |
| 05:36.08 | adb | expiration date in keyring ? |
| 05:36.16 | dondelelcaro | only the password does |
| 05:36.23 | enouf | right |
| 05:36.34 | enouf | thought so - thanks dondelelcaro |
| 05:36.35 | SparFux | I had a problem with the error message: http://pastebin.com/d19e3077e |
| 05:37.03 | SparFux | That's how I came to that matter. Never really realized an account would expire and I don't know why there was an expiration date set on my accounts on my home computer :-P |
| 05:37.42 | SparFux | There are two things as far as I learned in my novice state: account expiration and password expiration. |
| 05:37.46 | dondelelcaro | though I suppose you could write a pam module to do that |
| 05:38.23 | SparFux | Account expiration is the account is inactivated and can only be reactivated by admin. Cron jobs aren't run, user cannot do anything. I don't know wether he would be logged out on expiration date though, I think not. |
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| 05:38.39 | enouf | SparFux: i know GDM has a session TIMEOUT or something .. related |
| 05:38.45 | dondelelcaro | SparFux: that's also just password-based expiration |
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| 05:39.20 | enouf | maybe gdmconfig? or /usr/share/gdm/* has docs? |
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| 05:41.43 | eshaase | i have two systems setup (debian and ubuntu), how come transferring a particular file from one to another results in 11MB/s but transferring the same file in the other direction results in 3MB/s? |
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| 05:43.28 | dondelelcaro | eshaase: could be different disk speeds, bad cables, bad network driver, almost anything, really. |
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| 05:44.01 | SparFux | enouf: yes, sounds related. |
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| 05:44.17 | enouf | eshaase: maybe one had the file(s) cached already in RAM. or swap is involved? |
| 05:44.20 | SparFux | Password expiration means the password is not valid anymore and the user will be prompted for a new password on next login. |
| 05:46.23 | SparFux | dondelelcaro: Well, I am not an expert on that. According to my investigation of my debian system I think it's like I described and there is a difference in password vs. account expiration. But it's system dependent perhaps or whatever. I never had problems with the error message anyway, but error messages disturb me somehow and I am glad I found out how to get rid of it. I never noticed a problem as I log into accounts from normal user by sud |
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| 05:46.45 | hanibana_ | hi all |
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| 05:47.03 | hanibana_ | I've installed gnome by "aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment" ; what's the best way to remove gnome or those packages that have been installed this way? |
| 05:47.05 | eshaase | dondelelcaro: all of what you listed would affect both directions though no? |
| 05:47.22 | muhoo | sorry, i got disconnected earlier. |
| 05:47.30 | eshaase | enouf: well i transferred twice and its still 3MB?s |
| 05:47.38 | eshaase | enouf: what do you mean about swap? |
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| 05:48.01 | muhoo | i was asking for a way to mount /mnt/long/deep/path/to/something to /mnt/shortpath, without symlinks |
| 05:48.09 | adb | SparFux: what about a hacked machine ? |
| 05:48.17 | reptyle | what does the first column mean in aptitude search ? i see p's and v's |
| 05:48.30 | dondelelcaro | eshaase: nope |
| 05:48.41 | muhoo | someone suggested an image file, but that won't work. this is a drive, and i just need access to some of its deep dirs from a higher-level dir... which are already empty dirs, so i can't blow them away and make symlinks |
| 05:48.46 | enouf | eshaase: what networked FStype are you using? anythings like kio_slaves on one? (DE related things) - also not sure if this would matter, but do both NICs use FullDuplex mode? ethtool can tell you |
| 05:48.47 | SparFux | adb: a hacked machine? |
| 05:48.56 | eshaase | enouf: i'm using scp |
| 05:49.00 | dondelelcaro | SparFux: nah, it's all different levels of password expiration |
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| 05:49.17 | eshaase | enouf: ill look into ethtool |
| 05:49.34 | SparFux | dondelcaro,adb: anyways, my problem was the expiration date was errorneously set to 1970: http://pastebin.com/d2362d850 for some accounts. |
| 05:50.04 | enouf | !epoch |
| 05:50.05 | dpkg | epoch is, like, the end of an era. For example y2k was a 2 digit year epoch. The unix epoch on 32-bit hardware isn't until Jan 18 2038, by which time we will probably have all migrated to 64-bit architectures. It's also a version number orderer used by the Debian packaging software. For example: 2:0.0.0 is a higher version than 9.9.9 by itself. |
| 05:50.06 | dondelelcaro | eshaase: for example, if you had a dodgy TX connection on a cable, it'd affect it in only one direction. |
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| 05:50.30 | phorce1 | eshaase: could still be a screwed up NIC TX circuit on the one machine |
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| 05:51.14 | hanibana_ | any idea? |
| 05:51.16 | adb | SparFux: set to 1970 by admin ? |
| 05:51.28 | phorce1 | eshaase: Yeah, what dondelelcaro said. Cable or NIC. Try swapping cable out first |
| 05:51.29 | enouf | eshaase: try some tests with netcat perhaps, remove any encryption/SSL using apps .. also perhaps options on one side is using compression prior to sending?> |
| 05:51.29 | SparFux | adb: I don't remember so. I am the admin of my home box, you know :-) |
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| 05:52.01 | enouf | eshaase: funky cables sounds the best though |
| 05:52.27 | SparFux | I don't find any hints on man pages to chage command though. Perhaps I should file a wish bug. |
| 05:52.40 | enouf | SparFux: have you toyed with man chfn? or chsh? |
| 05:52.59 | eshaase | ok, i'll take a look at my cables |
| 05:53.05 | eshaase | which ones should i look at first? |
| 05:53.22 | enouf | the cat5e ones ;-) |
| 05:53.25 | phorce1 | eshaase: don't look, replace |
| 05:53.42 | enouf | yeah - heh, replace , no looking! |
| 05:54.15 | SparFux | enouf: not for at least one user with the problem. I think it was a temporary bug perhaps in useradd command. |
| 05:54.17 | yaboo007 | is there a maximum partition size I can install debian on, I currently wish to do a 220gb root partition |
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| 05:56.08 | muhoo | no answer on shadow mounting, eh? |
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| 05:56.50 | enouf | eshaase: could install and try an app like netperf or netsend or something, and how are you measuring the speeds? i mean a dialog box pops up? progess bar? |
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| 05:57.28 | adb | SparFux: cat /etc/default/useradd | grep EXPIRE= |
| 05:57.30 | enouf | SparFux: possible you did something over samba with a vfat FS? |
| 05:57.38 | Lycurgus | did I do something wrong or is eclipse 3.2 the official lenny release? |
| 05:57.42 | SparFux | adb: I use the adduser command instead of useradd. |
| 05:57.48 | enouf | !uuoc |
| 05:57.48 | dpkg | UUOC is the Useless Use of Cat Award. Given out for years by Randal Schwartz on the newsgroup comp.unix.shell. Basically, most constructions that look like "cat filename | grep pattern" can be more easily written as "grep pattern filename". Works for grep and most other Unix utilities. Easier to type and marginally more efficient. |
| 05:57.58 | phorce1 | yaboo007: that will work fine. I installed on a 500G as a single partition. Then, a year later when the drive started having issues I had to move hundreds of gigabytes to replace it. |
| 05:58.15 | SparFux | enouf: samba is impossible. |
| 05:58.15 | yaboo007 | phorce1: thanks |
| 05:58.23 | SparFux | adb: only SHELL=/bin/sh in there and some comments. |
| 05:58.24 | enouf | adb: good one though, forgot about that |
| 05:58.32 | enouf | SparFux: impossible? |
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| 05:58.48 | SparFux | enouf: I did nothing with samba on vfat. sry for expression. |
| 05:59.05 | phorce1 | yaboo007: I strongly suggest doing something like 100MB /boot + 20G / + 200G /home |
| 05:59.25 | SparFux | Yes, the default/useradd was important. But it's ok here. |
| 05:59.26 | phorce1 | samba is annoying |
| 05:59.44 | enouf | judd: versions eclipse |
| 05:59.45 | judd | enouf: eclipse -- etch: 3.2.1-4 lenny: 3.2.2-6.1 sid: 3.2.2-6.1 squeeze: 3.2.2-6.1 |
| 06:00.01 | Lycurgus | bdamn! |
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| 06:00.41 | Lycurgus | the just released 3.5 and I've been using 3.3 and 3.4 for some time on etch |
| 06:00.48 | Lycurgus | *they |
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| 06:02.44 | SparFux | enouf: adb: recently added users with adduser have no account expiration. So. I did updates in the meantime, it's quite obvious there has been something wrong and it is ok now. |
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| 06:05.36 | SparFux | On http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=78961 I think I found an answer to the expiration issue: http://pastebin.com/d33cc9660 |
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| 06:14.16 | B1ST | aptitude install doesn't works or what |
| 06:14.19 | B1ST | err |
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| 06:14.26 | B1ST | *aptitude install rar |
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| 06:15.14 | nkuttler | !tell B1ST about errors |
| 06:15.47 | B1ST | well, he cannot find the package rar |
| 06:15.49 | adb | apt-cache search unrar |
| 06:16.14 | nkuttler | B1ST: missing non-free sources? |
| 06:16.42 | pl4yer0ne | 7zip is better than rar (and I think it can open rars too) |
| 06:16.48 | B1ST | nvm, the pack called unrar-free |
| 06:17.04 | B1ST | and yes, i do not have the non-free source in the list |
| 06:17.23 | pl4yer0ne | 7zip is FOSS =) |
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| 06:22.15 | reptyle | where's make-kpkg ? it's not even in the repos |
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| 06:23.32 | adb | apt-file search make-kpkg |
| 06:23.58 | SparFux | apt-get install kernel-package |
| 06:24.32 | reptyle | thanx |
| 06:24.50 | eshaase | measuring it via scp, theres a display |
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| 06:28.39 | adb | [08:19:09]` <scroat> where's make-kpkg ? it's not even in the repos` scroat is reptyle , wtf |
| 06:30.20 | eshaase | anyways, th anks guys, appreciate it! |
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| 06:30.40 | enouf | SparFux: Sarge? etch wasn't released until 2007 .. |
| 06:31.25 | enouf | SparFux: or, is the fix not what you expect? or exibits the behaviour you're seeing? |
| 06:31.33 | SparFux | Well, the posting was form 2005. I got 1970 expiry dates on 2007, too. I am pretty sure I did updates, so I think your concern is legitimate. |
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| 06:32.13 | enouf | it's 2009 now :-P |
| 06:32.17 | SparFux | enouf: Well, at least the behaviour now is ok. Expiry date isn't set and there is no expiry. The problem exists only with accounts created a longer time ago. |
| 06:32.49 | SparFux | Yes, the question is when the accounts were created. You know, the error message occurred for a very long time now :-) |
| 06:33.09 | SparFux | The error never was a problem. I log into accounts with sudo su - <username> |
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| 06:33.23 | SparFux | This is possible even for expired and locked accounts. |
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| 06:34.04 | enouf | hrm, confusing, but ok |
| 06:35.27 | adb | SparFux: how many accounts has this machine ? |
| 06:36.22 | ThaMentor | hi, I want to download DEBIAN 5.0 lenny by torrent, but it appears an error : Not Found |
| 06:36.22 | ThaMentor | The requested URL /debian-cd/5.0.2/i386/bt-cd/ was not found on this server. |
| 06:36.29 | SparFux | As of now 18 accounts. It was less in former days. It's a private machine and I use it all on my own, but I have established a new concept for having accounts for people I do something for. So when writing a letter for sb, he gets an account :-) |
| 06:37.03 | SparFux | enouf: And I use accounts for some things I consider insecure: games, web, audio apps. |
| 06:37.29 | SparFux | One account name source to compile things and vpn for VPN applications. |
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| 06:41.17 | adb | SparFux: so accounts are more like groups and users enter specific group to do specific tasks ? |
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| 06:43.19 | SparFux | adb: if I had only one account and used groups for the tasks, then the security wouldn't be hardened, I think. I mean, when running my userspace socialvpn software, this software cannot access the main user's data and cannot change it. |
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| 06:44.21 | SparFux | Or when user wine runs wine and it runs offensive windows software, all this doesn't have any effect on other parts of the system. |
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| 06:45.28 | havoc | what could be the problem that my knockd closes my connecten even if i have an active ssh connection? thought the stop command is not done if there was a login after the knocking sequence |
| 06:45.37 | maher | i'm having a weird xfig problem - does anyone else use xfig and feel like seeing if they also have it? |
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| 06:48.47 | SparFux | maher: I have just installed it. Is it easy to reproduce? |
| 06:50.13 | maher | SparFux: yes - the menus don't work - try running xfig and then try and open a file using a menu |
| 06:50.22 | adb | SparFux: so users has no any "privacy" space, aka /home/$User, they may run only fixed services defined by account's group they use for login ? |
| 06:50.35 | SparFux | I get a file open window then. |
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| 06:50.55 | maher | SparFux: hmmm.... i must have broken something somehow |
| 06:51.04 | SparFux | adb: I don't really use groups, but the account name is the group. Yes, that's the idea behind it. |
| 06:51.20 | SparFux | maher: yes, I seem to be able to select files. I check for example files to open... |
| 06:51.33 | maher | SparFux: i don't get the file dialog |
| 06:51.47 | SparFux | aha. there is something broken then. |
| 06:52.03 | SparFux | not even the pull-down menu pops open? |
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| 06:52.24 | SparFux | maher: What window manager? |
| 06:53.21 | maher | SparFux: blackbox |
| 06:53.33 | SparFux | hm.. don't know it. |
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| 06:58.36 | adb | SparFux: so a bash_profile is used to define each account ? |
| 06:59.22 | SparFux | I have the feeling you are aiming at I am doing something wrong with accounts, i.e. something they are not ment to be used for? |
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| 07:01.45 | Vonor | is there a kernel image in debian which has nfs and rootfs via nfs compiled in instead of via initrd? |
| 07:02.11 | gaintsura | has anyone used Nagios or Cacti for system monitoring? How well does it work, Can it monitor multiple systems at once, so on and so forth..? |
| 07:04.38 | adb | no, i try only to imagine how we may achive that in practice |
| 07:06.15 | redstick | Does anyone know of a repository with SNORT on it? |
| 07:07.34 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:15.42 | Nesquick | hi there all |
| 07:15.54 | Nesquick | is any posbility to recover data from an ext3fs partition ? |
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| 07:18.28 | enouf | !undelete |
| 07:18.28 | dpkg | Linux doesn't generally support 'undeleting' files. For ext2fs *only*, use mc (Midnight Commander), umount the fs, and select "Undelete files" from menu. For ext3fs, see http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and ask about <ext3grep>. With reiserfs, jfs, xfs, you're SooL. Some desktops (GNOME/KDE) offer a trash bin. |
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| 07:22.01 | yaboo007 | is startx still how you start xwindows |
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| 07:22.23 | nkuttler | yaboo007: yes, if you don't want to use a dm |
| 07:22.34 | yaboo007 | yep nkuttler |
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| 07:35.49 | jan247 | hi is there a way to 'reverse' an ssh session? i want to let another user connect to my machine for a short time. problem is, i'm having problem and can't install ssh-server on my machine. |
| 07:35.57 | SparFux | adb: Achieve what in practice? Better security for all the tasks people do? Well, generally I think it's always a very good idea to do everything as a sepcial user. This gives more security and seperates things from each other. This is already done in Debian in many ways. For example there is a user asterisk for the telephony software. Whereever this is missing or whereever I install a software not available in debian, I use my own users. I don |
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| 07:37.35 | benschwarz | hey folks |
| 07:37.43 | Nesquick | how can i see |
| 07:37.52 | Nesquick | what files contains a dd image |
| 07:37.52 | benschwarz | I'm looking to add some virtual interfaces to my system |
| 07:37.52 | Nesquick | ? |
| 07:38.02 | benschwarz | where is the best place to learn how to do this? |
| 07:38.12 | nkuttler | jan247: google ssh reverse tunnel |
| 07:38.25 | nkuttler | Nesquick: hm? |
| 07:38.25 | jan247 | hm, thanks |
| 07:38.35 | Nesquick | nkuttler, |
| 07:38.40 | nkuttler | benschwarz: ifconfig eth0:0 up? |
| 07:38.46 | Nesquick | i have a backup maded with dd |
| 07:38.51 | Nesquick | and i want to see |
| 07:38.54 | Nesquick | what contains that file |
| 07:39.00 | benschwarz | nkuttler: will it get written to //etc/network/interfaces? |
| 07:39.04 | nkuttler | Nesquick: is it a partition ? |
| 07:39.09 | nkuttler | benschwarz: of course not |
| 07:39.14 | Nesquick | i think so |
| 07:39.33 | nkuttler | Nesquick: you can probably loop mount it |
| 07:39.46 | Nesquick | how ? |
| 07:39.49 | Nesquick | mount -o loop ? |
| 07:40.28 | nkuttler | Nesquick: see man mount |
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| 07:45.35 | nkuttler | jan247: oooh, wait, that requires a local sshd anyway |
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| 07:47.31 | enouf | jan247: why can't you install openssh-server? |
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| 07:49.54 | error404notfound | from where can i download debian etch? i can't find it anywhere, everywhere lenny download links are given |
| 07:51.16 | enouf | Nesquick: http://www.andremiller.net/content/mounting-hard-disk-image-including-partitions-using-linux |
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| 07:55.14 | error404notfound | googles again... |
| 07:55.31 | fireba11 | error404notfound: since etch is oldstable .. why do you want to download it? :-) |
| 07:55.35 | scream_ | hi! what is the debian way of loading xmodmap on X session startup? |
| 07:55.45 | error404notfound | fireba11, client requirement |
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| 07:57.48 | nkuttler | error404notfound: check archive.debian.org or just s/stable/oldstable/ on debian.org |
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| 07:58.58 | maher | pull down menus don't seem to work in either xfig or gv - maybe this is some problem with xaw3dg? (emacs works though) any ideas? |
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| 08:00.52 | mnemonic | hi |
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| 08:02.08 | fireba11 | error404notfound: you are aware that security updates for etch won't be provided for much longer? |
| 08:02.21 | Tapout | i've got vsftpd, and one ftp user I want to kill (it's me, I'm trying to make sure my error handling with ncftpget works) |
| 08:02.29 | Tapout | stopping vsftpd does not close the connection |
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| 08:04.37 | fireba11 | Tapout: check process list? |
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| 08:05.18 | anddam | hi |
| 08:05.36 | anddam | I'm searching for an Exposé-like manager for Xorg, any advice? |
| 08:05.50 | anddam | I searched the web and found komposé but that's kde |
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| 08:06.24 | enouf | fireba11: etch should be supported atleast until Feb of 2010, IIUC |
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| 08:08.01 | fireba11 | enouf: ah, thanks for the info. |
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| 08:16.01 | dboehmer | hello everyone |
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| 08:16.14 | enouf | fireba11: AIUI, oldstable should/will be supported for 1yr after the latest Stable release (Lenny) |
| 08:16.15 | dboehmer | can somebody give hints on using LXDE? |
| 08:16.42 | dboehmer | i have installed LXDE from the debian repos and several apps don't start except there are run as root... |
| 08:16.49 | enouf | fireba11: it's not a hard and fast rule set in stone though |
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| 08:17.02 | dboehmer | e.g. lxterminal says "cannot connect to display :0" when executed as user |
| 08:17.17 | enouf | echo $DISPLAY |
| 08:17.20 | dboehmer | can somebody tell why that is? |
| 08:17.33 | dboehmer | enouf, :0 |
| 08:17.33 | maligor | enouf, how do you echo $DISPLAY if you can't get a terminal? |
| 08:17.53 | dboehmer | maligor, i exec root terminal which works and "su username" |
| 08:18.01 | enouf | maligor: then wtf are you typint lxterminal in? |
| 08:18.07 | enouf | you too dboehmer |
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| 08:18.16 | janmejay | has anyone experienced vlc failing to play videos on lenny? |
| 08:18.28 | enouf | dboehmer: root doesn't have DISPLAY set |
| 08:18.33 | maligor | lxde is a desktop environment, I imagine it has things called icons :P |
| 08:18.40 | enouf | ... |
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| 08:18.54 | enouf | maligor: talk about without a Display :-P |
| 08:18.59 | enouf | Icons? lmao |
| 08:19.12 | enouf | So .. let |
| 08:19.13 | dboehmer | enouf, the $DISPLAY var is echoed by root as ":0", too |
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| 08:19.39 | xiangfu | Hi I have try to make a debian package. 1. dh_make 2. change the control 3. dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot, |
| 08:19.49 | enouf | So .. let's review, he cannot echo $DISPLAY b/c there's no terminal, but he CAN click on DE Icons? |
| 08:19.51 | xiangfu | my broblem is how change the version. |
| 08:19.58 | xiangfu | it's always 1.0.0-1. |
| 08:20.19 | enouf | dch xiangfu |
| 08:20.22 | maligor | dboehmer, what debian is it? |
| 08:20.28 | xiangfu | can I change the version number to like v2009.06 |
| 08:20.42 | dboehmer | enouf, i can use terminal even as user but i cannot start terminal emulation "lxterminal" as user |
| 08:20.43 | enouf | dboehmer: that's the server, not the DISPLAY |
| 08:20.56 | enouf | dboehmer: should be :0.0 |
| 08:20.56 | xiangfu | enouf: what is dch? |
| 08:21.06 | enouf | xiangfu: install devscripts |
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| 08:21.25 | hamsand | dboehmer: you run X as the normal user or root? |
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| 08:21.44 | dboehmer | hamsand, i login at tty2 and exec "startx" |
| 08:22.26 | hamsand | normal user? |
| 08:22.31 | dboehmer | enouf, i have set DISPLAY to :0.0 but error message is the same |
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| 08:22.53 | dboehmer | hamsand, non-root account |
| 08:22.59 | dboehmer | just me:) |
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| 08:23.15 | enouf | dboehmer: your env isn't the same when you su username |
| 08:23.32 | enouf | dboehmer: do you have a DM installed? |
| 08:23.46 | dboehmer | enouf, but i set the var and executed "lxterminal" right in the same terminal window |
| 08:23.48 | enouf | dboehmer: pastebin output of 'printenv' |
| 08:24.00 | enouf | doesn't matter |
| 08:24.01 | xiangfu | enouf: very thanks. |
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| 08:24.10 | enouf | np |
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| 08:25.45 | enouf | dboehmer: what release of debian, which kernel and show us output of dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1 |
| 08:26.26 | dboehmer | http://pastebin.com/d3359472a |
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| 08:27.08 | dboehmer | enouf, current debian lenny. everything should be standard. i am using kernel i686 |
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| 08:29.03 | hamsand | dboehmer: i think it may be problem about xath |
| 08:29.22 | hamsand | i want you to try running "XAUTHORITY=/home/daniel/.Xauthority lxterminal" |
| 08:30.11 | dboehmer | seg fault:-D |
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| 08:30.41 | simplechat | hey, just as a question, is there any way to use ksplice with debian? |
| 08:31.08 | enouf | dboehmer: rm the /tmp/libgksu-KqKHXr/.Xauthority |
| 08:31.08 | dboehmer | hamsand, you received my answer? |
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| 08:31.47 | enouf | dboehmer: make sure the xauth pkg is installed - your VAR should be /home/username/.Xauthority |
| 08:31.52 | hamsand | yes |
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| 08:32.28 | enouf | dboehmer: you seem to already have a _LXSESSION_PID=3208 running too |
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| 08:32.42 | enouf | DESKTOP_SESSION=LXDE |
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| 08:32.56 | Garp | Hi. |
| 08:33.43 | Garp | Question: I'm looking for tools to maintain an offline debian machine. Saw http://pypt-offline.sourceforge.net/, but looks not maintained any more. Does it works? Do you have alternatives? Thanks. |
| 08:33.52 | dboehmer | enouf, there is only one lxsession running which is 3208 |
| 08:34.10 | dboehmer | enouf, xauth is installed |
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| 08:34.40 | enouf | dboehmer: export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games |
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| 08:35.43 | petemc | Garp: would using the dvds not be sufficient? |
| 08:35.50 | dboehmer | enouf, with that lxterminal still fails with the gtk error |
| 08:36.24 | Garp | petemc: It means creating a whole dvd for each update... |
| 08:36.26 | enouf | dboehmer: what is lxterminal supposed to be anyway? a xterm equiv? |
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| 08:36.56 | petemc | Garp: you can use things like jigdo to update your existing mediA |
| 08:37.02 | enouf | dboehmer: also, as root update-alternatives --config x-* |
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| 08:37.04 | dboehmer | enouf, it's a full terminal emulator with tab support from LXDE |
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| 08:37.41 | dboehmer | enouf, interesting: i can still execute root terminal from lxde menu, but running lxterminal as root doesn't work anymore |
| 08:38.44 | enouf | dboehmer: is a DM installed? gdm/xdm/kdm? and which WM? |
| 08:38.49 | Garp | petemc: but no clue about pypt-offline-like systems ? |
| 08:38.52 | dboehmer | enouf, @update-alternatives: no alternatives for x-* |
| 08:38.54 | petemc | none at all |
| 08:39.02 | Garp | petemc: thanks anyway. |
| 08:39.10 | dboehmer | enouf, gdm was installed automatically but removed by me |
| 08:39.12 | enouf | dboehmer: tabcomplete the x- |
| 08:39.31 | dboehmer | x-session-manager x-window-manager |
| 08:39.31 | dboehmer | x-terminal-emulator x-www-browser |
| 08:39.36 | enouf | right |
| 08:39.41 | enouf | configure those |
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| 08:40.34 | dboehmer | x-terminal-emulator keeps being lxterminal |
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| 08:40.54 | dboehmer | enouf, you're still there in 20mins? |
| 08:41.11 | dboehmer | i am in university and we're just doing a break until then |
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| 08:41.15 | enouf | maybe |
| 08:41.36 | dboehmer | maybe is critical. maybe we can fix that now... |
| 08:41.51 | dboehmer | can you please explain to me what the actual problem is? i don't get it |
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| 08:46.45 | dboehmer | enouf, any ideas? |
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| 08:53.22 | Vonor | can someone help me with netboot and rootfs via nfs? kernel and initrd load fine, just the nfsroot cannot be mounted. |
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| 08:54.59 | Vonor | thats the output: http://imagebin.org/53969 |
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| 08:56.58 | Vonor | !nfsroot |
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| 08:59.58 | acemi | how is APPEND line in pxelinux conf? |
| 09:00.05 | sidh | greetings gentlemen |
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| 09:00.43 | Vonor | acemi, append initrd=initrd.img rw ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.99.1:/nfsroot |
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| 09:01.00 | JJOliver | Hi I'm trying to use minicom to connect to an invertor. Where do I select that it is ASCII only? |
| 09:01.23 | Vonor | JJOliver, ctrl-A O |
| 09:01.55 | JJOliver | I'm there but I still don't see the ascii option. |
| 09:01.58 | acemi | / line in /nfsroot/etc/fstab? |
| 09:02.27 | Vonor | 192.168.99.1:/nfsroot / nfs sync,hard,intr,rw,nolock,rsize=8192,wsite=8192 0 0 |
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| 09:03.40 | nathan7 | Hello, I'm having problems with my motd. It contains some ANSI control chars, but this causes my system to ignore the motd completely D= |
| 09:03.45 | JJOliver | Vonor: So i can't see anywhere in Ctrl-a O that has anything to do with ascii. |
| 09:03.55 | nathan7 | When I remove them, it's okay |
| 09:03.57 | acemi | I used /dev/nfs instead of 192.168.99.1:/nfsroot in my fstab |
| 09:04.00 | sidh | For developpment/testing purposes , proxmox VE seems to be a great solution for my needs, but as I have only one 'powerful' desktop (quadcore/8 GB Ram) , I would need to have proxmox + XFCE and desktops apps on it too, on the proxmox web site they say it's possible but i would like to have some feedbacks of people who use proxmox as a dev station . |
| 09:04.58 | acemi | /etc/eports is OK? |
| 09:05.03 | acemi | /etc/exports is OK? |
| 09:05.10 | Vonor | JJOliver, not sure, under serial port setup, hw and soft flowcontrol no |
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| 09:05.37 | Vonor | acemi, yes, the exports is ok, it can be mounted fine |
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| 09:06.30 | Vonor | acemi, lemme try |
| 09:06.48 | JJOliver | thanks |
| 09:07.15 | Vonor | acemi, i don't think it even gets as far as to read the fstab |
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| 09:07.40 | acemi | do you have a firewall in nfs server? |
| 09:07.45 | Vonor | nope |
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| 09:08.34 | Vonor | acemi, i followed this guide: http://www.logilab.org/card/DebianDisklessTerminalHowto with additional setup (for the missing parts) from a gentoo howto: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/diskless-howto.xml |
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| 09:08.48 | Vonor | from the gentoo howto i only took the nfs stuff |
| 09:08.49 | acemi | can I see the exports content? |
| 09:09.13 | Vonor | /nfsroot 192.168.99.2(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_all_squash,no_subtree_check) |
| 09:10.48 | acemi | maybe your client can't get this IP |
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| 09:11.05 | Vonor | acemi, btw, there is no /dev/nfs in the nfsroot |
| 09:11.19 | Vonor | the client gets the ip, else it wouldn't be able to load the kernel either |
| 09:12.00 | acemi | but after loading the kernel, its IP can be changed |
| 09:12.11 | jeffrey_ | Vonor: are you sure your client support NFS too? |
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| 09:14.26 | acemi | Vonor: could you paste /nfsroot/etc/network/interfaces content |
| 09:14.53 | Vonor | acemi, it's empty |
| 09:15.40 | acemi | could you ping the client from the server |
| 09:16.17 | acemi | I think you have not a network connection after the kernel is loaded |
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| 09:16.51 | nathan7 | points at initramfs |
| 09:17.09 | _paladin_ | there's proplem with multiclient connection to mpd. ncmpc work properly, but mpc at the same time tells "error: problems getting a response from "127.0.0.1" on port 6600 : Connection refused". mpd version 0.14.1, debian stable. what's wrong? |
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| 09:18.51 | jeffrey_ | _paladin: are you sure the port 6600 is allowed? check the firewall setup |
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| 09:20.19 | _paladin_ | jeffrey_, yes, mpd binds to this port, and ncmpc connects to it properly. |
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| 09:22.12 | jeffrey_ | _paladin_: are they connect to the same IP? 127.0.0.1 or 192.168.*.*? |
| 09:24.30 | enouf | _paladin_: can you pastebin output of ifconfig -a and netstat -tunap? |
| 09:24.39 | _paladin_ | jeffrey_, yes, to the same. there's one more thing - if MPD_HOST=localhost, then mpc works ok. |
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| 09:25.14 | enouf | that's sounds like a possible /etc/hosts issue? |
| 09:25.22 | _paladin_ | i'm trying to get icewm hotkeys to mpc work. |
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| 09:25.54 | _paladin_ | enouf, checked. there's "127.0.0.1 localhost" line in /etc/hosts |
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| 09:26.49 | enouf | should be 127.0.0.1 host.domain localhost hostname |
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| 09:27.04 | enouf | but thanks for ignoring the 1st question |
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| 09:28.40 | maher | i'm still having problems with the drop down menus in xfig - is anyone else having this sort of problem? |
| 09:28.56 | jeffrey_ | enouf: do you mean 127.0.0.1 host.domain localhost |
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| 09:29.03 | jeffrey_ | localhost is the hostname |
| 09:29.09 | kasimon | Hi. Am I right that cowbuilder is faster than pbuilder? |
| 09:29.17 | _paladin_ | enouf, i'm sorry, just missed it :/ http://pastebin.com/m4b355a36 |
| 09:29.21 | Vonor | sorry, got a call |
| 09:29.29 | petemc | 127.0.0.1 localhost , is perfectly valid for /etc/hosts |
| 09:29.38 | enouf | jeffrey_: no |
| 09:30.21 | jeffrey_ | enouf: then what's hostname in your statement? |
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| 09:30.54 | enouf | seems you have an ipv6 issue _paladin_ |
| 09:31.28 | enouf | jeffrey_: echo $HOSTNAME |
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| 09:31.37 | jeffrey_ | enouf: if it's IPv6 issue, the IP address should not be 127.0.0.1 |
| 09:31.42 | polycarbonate1 | there's a bot back on here and #redhat |
| 09:31.56 | polycarbonate1 | n=PerfStat@88.243.216.148 |
| 09:32.08 | jeffrey_ | enouf: I've checked my /etc/hosts, things are not like you listed |
| 09:32.12 | polycarbonate1 | they're a regular |
| 09:32.14 | enouf | look for 6600 in your pastebin |
| 09:32.19 | Vonor | acemi, during kernel load i get a message about the ip, it seems to be correct, though i can't ping the client |
| 09:32.23 | polycarbonate1 | always o* |
| 09:32.24 | _paladin_ | enouf, can you explain more detailed? |
| 09:32.54 | enouf | ipv6 is using ::1 correctly |
| 09:33.06 | enouf | inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host |
| 09:33.30 | _paladin_ | and what should I do in this case? |
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| 09:35.45 | acemi | Vonor: try to define a static ip in /nfsroot/etc/network/interfaces with no auto or allow-hotplug line |
| 09:35.55 | enouf | _paladin_: maybe mpc isn't ipv6 aware? i'm not sure |
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| 09:36.15 | enouf | jeffrey_: this box has been like this since sarge days |
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| 09:37.16 | enouf | you'll be missing the host.domain (or FQDN) if you haven't set that up, which is fine |
| 09:38.42 | jeffrey_ | enouf: my /etc/hosts is like this: 127.0.0.1 foo.com localhost |
| 09:39.05 | enouf | and what does echo $HOSTNAME say? |
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| 09:39.29 | jeffrey_ | enouf: x40-jeffrey |
| 09:39.50 | enouf | well, you could add that if you like, or not ... |
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| 09:40.32 | enouf | i didn't mean it _has_ to be the way i said, though i did say _should_ ... |
| 09:40.47 | jeffrey_ | enouf: I just don't think the "hostname" is needed after "localhost", the localhost IS a hostname. |
| 09:41.11 | dboehmer | i have been googling for some time now: |
| 09:41.15 | enouf | yes, one that can confuse many apps such as mail programs |
| 09:41.30 | dboehmer | how to set flag for some pkg if it is manually installed or as dep? |
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| 09:41.48 | enouf | dboehmer: /msg dpkg unmarkauto |
| 09:42.45 | enouf | dboehmer: for apt; apt-get install pkgname (manual) ; apt-mark (auto -- removal manually installed) |
| 09:43.01 | dboehmer | thx |
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| 09:43.38 | Vonoff | acemi, had a discon, dod you say anything after <Vonor> acemi, and how should it work through that file if it isn't even known to the client? |
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| 09:43.43 | enouf | dboehmer: i found this, but i don;t like many of the supposed fixes |
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| 09:44.27 | enouf | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-166863.html |
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| 09:44.53 | maher | anyone want to see if they can reproduce my xfig bug before I file a bug? |
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| 09:45.15 | enouf | dboehmer: i'd restart the machine to start with - then try logging in on tty1 as username and launch startx |
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| 09:46.16 | enouf | dboehmer: if there are errors, show us what they are ... |
| 09:46.33 | acemi | Vonoff: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Debian_Etch_Server_And_Diskless_EMC2_Thin_Clients |
| 09:47.05 | acemi | i tried this and it works for me |
| 09:47.49 | dboehmer | enouf, later that day i can restart the box |
| 09:47.55 | dboehmer | i will tell you then |
| 09:48.09 | danygug | hi i have some basic question anyone can help in privet msg? |
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| 09:48.56 | enouf | _paladin_: you could try blacklisting your ipv6 module, or if your MPC_HOST= works, add that 'export MPC_HOST=,,,' to your ~/.bashrc |
| 09:49.34 | kvsn | How can I know the date on which a given package was installed? |
| 09:50.00 | enouf | dboehmer: i just think you have too much of a mess there as it is., if you want, use pstree -tunap and try to sort it out. kill off unneeded shit .. gently ;-) |
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| 09:50.35 | _paladin_ | enouf, thanks, added already. but now i can't understand why key "Alt+z" /bin/sh -c "mpc toggle" in my .icewm/keys doesn't work =_= |
| 09:50.38 | enouf | kvsn: could grep dpkg.log i guess ... otherwise, |
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| 09:52.53 | enouf | kvsn: could ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep pkgname and look at the date, but that's no guarantee |
| 09:53.08 | kvsn | enouf: thanks! |
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| 09:53.22 | enouf | it might have only been d/l then .. and/or modified since it was |
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| 09:56.49 | Vonoff | acemi, now i changed my appened line according to that guide and got a kernel panic - nt syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(254,0) |
| 09:57.57 | enouf | !can't mount root |
| 09:57.58 | dpkg | If you can't mount the root file system when you boot your custom kernel, it means you have failed to include support for either: (a) your root file system (e.g. ext3), or (b) your disk controller (IDE, SCSI, etc.). These cannot be modules, unless you use an initrd. Go check your config again. or make sure your bootloader knows about your initrd |
| 09:58.22 | enouf | see initrd as mentioned, also /etc/default/nfs* |
| 09:58.26 | maher | wtf! xfig now works fine |
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| 10:00.52 | acemi | Vonoff: check the exports file too |
| 10:00.55 | enouf | Vonoff: any LVM involved? |
| 10:01.15 | Vonoff | acemi, the exports file is still as i showed you earlier |
| 10:01.20 | maher | i realize everyone is deeply excited about my xfig problems |
| 10:01.31 | enouf | (254,0) if it's referring to major/minor nodes is almost always something oddball |
| 10:01.36 | Vonoff | enouf, no, no lvm involved...and how do i check the initrd? |
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| 10:02.42 | enouf | Vonoff: welp. start with grep -v /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf | xargs |
| 10:02.46 | enouf | er |
| 10:02.53 | enouf | Vonoff: welp. start with grep -v '#'/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf | xargs |
| 10:03.16 | enouf | crap |
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| 10:03.28 | enouf | Vonoff: there--> grep -v '#' /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf | xargs |
| 10:04.00 | enouf | blank spaces are quite important :-P |
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| 10:04.17 | enouf | (not near the pipes though, but still) |
| 10:04.46 | Vonoff | http://pastebin.ca/1478201 |
| 10:05.23 | beardy | waves to Vonoff |
| 10:05.30 | Vonoff | huhu beardy |
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| 10:06.41 | Vonoff | enouf, anything i should change in it? |
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| 10:07.49 | enouf | Vonoff: looks ok to me .. however, i'm not even sure what your issue is, nor much about how to resolve nfs issues |
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| 10:08.12 | iluminator101 | How do i create cd of debian squeeze desktop install? |
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| 10:08.33 | Vonoff | enouf, the issue is that the kernel i load via netboot cannot access the nfsroot |
| 10:08.34 | enouf | iluminator101: look at the pkg bootcd |
| 10:09.15 | iluminator101 | i am not talking about netinstall i all the packages in the desktop |
| 10:09.27 | enouf | Vonoff: too much for me atm .. i'm about to pass out .. but hopefully others will see, and perhaps chime in if they can |
| 10:09.48 | beardy | iluminator101: Wait until it is stable? Do you mean the task "Desktop"? |
| 10:10.19 | enouf | Vonoff: though if you cat that file, you'll see options for NFSROOT= |
| 10:11.02 | iluminator101 | netinstall i have to download all those packages....i want all those packages that i download in netinstall in a cd or dvd |
| 10:11.48 | enouf | Vonoff: then you'd alter that and man update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.x.x (or whatever) .. though i'm not sure NFSROOT=auto is incorrect in your situation. |
| 10:12.18 | enouf | Vonoff: also seen /etc/default/nfs* ? which most of should be not much and commented |
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| 10:13.18 | Vonoff | after making changes to the initramfs.conf, how to i recreate it? (standard debian kernel: linux-image-2.6-i686) |
| 10:13.37 | Vonoff | ah, nvm, you already saif it |
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| 10:15.39 | Vonoff | ok, now it tries to mount it again |
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| 10:24.24 | zak | how to check if the cam of my lappy is detected ? |
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| 10:28.52 | maher | zak: try running webcam to see if it finds it |
| 10:29.50 | zak | iam looking for the command/ |
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| 10:30.13 | kinunt | hi |
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| 10:31.18 | enouf | zak: dmesg should tell you, also lsusb -v perhaps, but the latter won't tell you if modules are loaded and it's working properly |
| 10:31.29 | kinunt | I've a new primergy tx150 and after installing Debian it says that the Operative System is not found...in the BIOS I see that the HD do not appear in the BOOT section, any ideas?? |
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| 10:32.05 | kinunt | I'm not sure if it is a debian issue or a BIOS issue...and one more thing, the disks are in RAID but I used dmraid=true in the debian installation |
| 10:32.07 | enouf | what's a tx150? you have no HDD installed? |
| 10:32.23 | enouf | kinunt: ewwww |
| 10:32.42 | enouf | dmraid is for Motherboard integrated fakeraid |
| 10:32.43 | kinunt | enouf: sorry, it's a server model, I have HDD installed but they do not appear in the BOOT priority section of the bios |
| 10:33.08 | enouf | kinunt: use mdadm (linux soft raid) |
| 10:33.23 | kinunt | mdadm=true ? |
| 10:33.35 | enouf | or you have a hardware raid controller card? |
| 10:34.00 | enouf | how about the Boot Order? |
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| 10:34.42 | kinunt | I'm embarrased, I'm not sure I have a hardware raid controller... |
| 10:35.02 | enouf | Boot Priority section could refer to various interfaces to boot from (IDE COntroller Add in card, Netboot, Removable media, etc) |
| 10:35.05 | kinunt | in the boot order is where the HDD do not appear, I only see CD/DVD and PXE |
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| 10:35.33 | enouf | kinunt: a hardware controller will have it's own BIOS setup |
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| 10:35.55 | maher | zak: xawtv is probably a better bet |
| 10:36.18 | kinunt | uhm, so, I think I have a hardware controller card because I've seen another bios menu when pressing ctrl+m |
| 10:36.36 | kinunt | is something called LSI controller configuracion...I think... |
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| 10:37.18 | enouf | The 3.5-inch SAS or SATA or 2.5-inch SAS hot-plug hard disks can be replaced easily while the server is in operation. High data security is offered thanks to built-in RAID 1 functionality and an optional ibutton RAID 5 implementation for SATA or a modular RAID for SAS configurations. |
| 10:37.29 | enouf | yea LSI Logic |
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| 10:38.34 | kinunt | enouf, so I should use dmraid=true, shouldn't I? |
| 10:39.01 | enouf | LSI 1078 8 port SAS for internal HDDs and internal backup devices with RAID 0, 1 (Integrated Mirroring Enhanced also for odd numbered HDs for Windows and Linux) with RAID 0, 1, 10 5, 50, 6; 60 (256 or 512 MB RAID Cache and opt. BBU) |
| 10:39.09 | enouf | http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:lGUxufjL3EQJ:solutions.us.fujitsu.com/downloads/primergy/DS_TX150_S6_PRIMERGY.pdf+primergy+tx150+lsi+raid+specifications&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&ie=UTF-8 |
| 10:39.41 | enouf | SATA variant (Intel ® ICH9R) 6 port SATA for 4 internal HDD`s with RAID 0, 1, 10 for Windows and Linux, RAID 5 iButton key optional, 2 ports for accessible drives also in SAS variant SAS configuration in PCIe slot either LSI 1068e or LSI 1078 |
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| 10:39.54 | enouf | you've got me .. not sure what to do :-P |
| 10:40.22 | kinunt | :) thanks for trying |
| 10:41.04 | zak | enouf: what command shall i use to see if the webcam of my lappy is detected or not |
| 10:41.11 | enouf | kinunt: i don't think dmraid is what you want though .. see http://people.redhat.com/~heinzm/sw/dmraid/readme |
| 10:41.11 | kinunt | but in your opinion, if in the boot order the hard drives do not appear, can it be a debian issue? |
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| 10:41.46 | Janni | Hi. |
| 10:42.37 | enouf | kinunt: likely you need some special options to boot/enter your BIOS setup for your controllers ... Debian wouldn't affect what you see (and don't see) when in the BIOS |
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| 10:43.22 | enouf | kinunt: all depends on which controller/ports the drives are connected as well - you really should look over your Mainboard PDF manual |
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| 10:43.35 | enouf | are connected to* as well |
| 10:43.36 | kinunt | yes, I think so...I look for that, thanks very much |
| 10:44.34 | Janni | A little problem for you to solve: I'd like to perform an incremental backup a la rsync, BUT of an encrypted partition of which I don't have the key. So what I'd like to get, is a set of files, that can reconstruct multiple versions (for each backup one) of the partition. |
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| 10:44.55 | enouf | 06:25 < kinunt> uhm, so, I think I have a hardware controller card because I've seen another bios menu when pressing ctrl+m |
| 10:44.57 | Janni | But I don't want a bit-to-bit comparison of the complete partition. |
| 10:44.58 | enouf | 06:25 < kinunt> is something called LSI controller configuracion...I think... |
| 10:45.05 | enouf | heh, i missed that kinunt "O_o |
| 10:45.08 | iluminator101 | how do i run the bootcd to backup my debian desktop |
| 10:45.16 | jelly | Janni: you want a block-level incremental backup? |
| 10:45.21 | maher | zak: does it show up in lsusb? |
| 10:45.26 | Janni | I guess that's a hard one, because this would require a logging of which sections of the partition have been modified |
| 10:45.31 | Janni | jelly: I think so, yes. |
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| 10:45.50 | enouf | iluminator101: 1st, you realize it'll make a livecd from your installation only, right? |
| 10:45.58 | enouf | if it works properly |
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| 10:46.12 | Janni | is using his favourite search machine on the term "block-level incremental backup" |
| 10:46.32 | Janni | jelly: thx |
| 10:46.43 | iluminator101 | my system is broken so that wont help |
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| 10:47.22 | maher | iluminator101: what are you going to back it up onto |
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| 10:48.43 | iluminator101 | i want to reinstall my system....netinstall takes too long...thats why i was looking for alternatives |
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| 10:49.19 | maher | iluminator101: what's wrong with it? you can chroot into the broken system from the boot cd |
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| 10:50.16 | iluminator101 | user's $home/.dmrc file is beign ignored. this presents the default session and language from being saved. file should owned by user and have 644 permission. user $home directory must by owned by user and not write by other users |
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| 10:50.58 | iluminator101 | i fixed this problem but.... all my folder in home are gone....or not visible.... |
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| 10:51.43 | maher | iluminator101: boot to the cd - get a shell - mount the hd and chroot into it and see what exactly is wrong and fix it... |
| 10:51.58 | iluminator101 | i did |
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| 10:52.13 | maher | iluminator101: actually - if the machine boots up can't you just do crtl-alt-f2 to get a console an dlog in as root? |
| 10:53.07 | dob1 | hi, i have this problem connecting to a cvs server on a debian lenny http://pastebin.com/m269e1d47 what is? |
| 10:53.15 | dob1 | how can i resolve? |
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| 10:54.47 | zak | enouf: GO TO HELL!!!!!!! |
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| 10:55.58 | dob1 | here the problem is more clear http://pastebin.com/m4af2e721 is the # |
| 10:55.58 | dob1 | # |
| 10:55.59 | dob1 | Connection refused: cvs: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by cvs) |
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| 11:01.41 | kinunt | enouf: the HDD were not added to the array in the RAID so I had to enter in its configuration bios and add them, after that they were recognized in the regular bios |
| 11:02.25 | jelly | dob1: can you connect to any other cvs server? What do commands "which cvs" and "dpkg -l libc6 cvs|tail -2" say? |
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| 11:06.03 | dob1 | jelly: i think the problem is the lib in cvsd rootjail, i think i need to update it, but how ? csvd-buildroot? |
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| 11:07.00 | vaq | Why was 502 install cds removed from mirror? |
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| 11:08.03 | dob1 | jelly: http://pastebin.com/m10287259 |
| 11:08.53 | jelly | dob1: that's out of my field of expertise, sorry; but if your chroot has old binaries, that might be it |
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| 11:12.16 | marcooliva | hello |
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| 11:15.19 | dob1_ | jelly: sorry lost connection, i think i can use cvsd-buildroot again but i don't know if it will wipe my repository .... |
| 11:15.22 | dob1_ | this is a problem |
| 11:15.22 | Lirion | dob1: zcat /usr/share/doc/cvsd/readme.gz | less |
| 11:15.31 | marcooliva | In the page -> http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#TheArtisticLicense the Artistic License is in the "group" of the -> " The Big DFSG-compatible Licenses ". Is the Artistic License in the correct place ? |
| 11:15.38 | Lirion | backup the repository |
| 11:18.18 | Janni | Hmm. Another question. My target: To have two encrypted partitions (cryptsetup, luks, dm-crypt, this stuff), where the first one holds a key-file that can be used to decrypt the other. This way I only need to enter a password once to mount both partitions (on different disks, btw.) |
| 11:18.50 | Janni | The problem: How do I achieve, that the second partition is "decrypted" AFTER the first one has been mounted? |
| 11:19.00 | Janni | Do I need to take care of this at all? |
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| 11:20.27 | Binnisb | hello. I am wondering, can I make a backup of my system so that if my hdd fails, I can replace it and run that backup onto it and have my system just as it was the day I backed it up? |
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| 11:22.51 | Janni | Binnisb: With two identical hard-disks this should be easy. |
| 11:22.55 | Janni | Do you have those? |
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| 11:24.24 | Binnisb | No. I'm running a server from an old laptop which has only one hdd |
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| 11:24.38 | xshadowfire | >server |
| 11:24.40 | xshadowfire | >old laptop |
| 11:24.40 | xshadowfire | what |
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| 11:25.48 | xshadowfire | your only option is probably to ghost it |
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| 11:26.02 | xshadowfire | I can't remember if ghost still has that dumb inode problem though |
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| 11:28.38 | petemc | only option is to ghost it? |
| 11:28.46 | petemc | there are many disk imaging options |
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| 11:29.16 | petemc | parted/partimage would be probably the most popular |
| 11:29.49 | asg | or just backup /etc /home /usr/local and a list of your packages. |
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| 11:36.03 | Binnisb | Thanks. I will look into ghost and partimage. Is it enough to back up just /etc, /home, /usr/local ? (given that I only use apt and keep all configs and stuff in their original places) |
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| 11:37.29 | mesa_booger | Binnisb: i keep /boot as well |
| 11:37.45 | mesa_booger | Binnisb: and /root |
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| 11:39.28 | enouf | Binnisb: it goes like this; don't bother saving /proc /sys /dev :-P |
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| 11:39.50 | beardy | Binnisb: That should be enough. Maybe what mesa_booger said is a good idea, /root anyway. Lookout if you have mail left in /var. |
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| 11:40.06 | enouf | although /dev (set aside) could possibly help with possible udev issues, should they occur |
| 11:40.28 | enouf | (as a reference) |
| 11:40.49 | enouf | UUIDs and shit .. certain /dev/snd/ nodes .. whatever |
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| 11:41.29 | mesa_booger | beardy: i keep all my grub config, and the kernel/initrd etc. makes sense to me ... |
| 11:42.10 | enouf | Binnisb: oh, and if you use a tar, gz, rsync, backup solution, make sure you leave/exclude /mnt or /media crap - umount all the unneeded crap as a precaution |
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| 11:42.28 | beardy | mesa_booger: Yes. If using stock kernels it's not much point, but grub, yes indeed. |
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| 11:56.40 | fraff | hi all, is it possible to run debian lenny on a bladecenter hs20 ? I can't find the drivers for the raid ide ! |
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| 12:01.17 | asg | fraff: we are running lenny on hs20s but booting from SAN. Maybe google has some info on the ide controller. |
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| 12:02.28 | fraff | asg: google didn't help me, there's a driver for 2.4 kernel, I can't find anything for 2.6 |
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| 12:02.50 | bkraptor | how do I make the Run Application dialog obey /etc/bash.bashrc? |
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| 12:03.32 | asg | fraff: on ours, lspci indicates serverworks is the module in use for the controller. |
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| 12:04.41 | asg | bkraptor: check run in a terminal to see if that helps |
| 12:04.57 | fraff | asg: this is the ide driver module I think, I need the one which drive the "CSB6 RAID/IDE Controller", lspci says serverworks but it doesn't work, I have nothing in /dev |
| 12:05.54 | fraff | asg: hey, you're rigth, modinfo says it the good one ... I'll check that |
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| 12:06.33 | asg | fraff: also, if you can't get the hw raid to work but can see both ide disks, you could use software raid since the performance of those little pcmcia disks is junk to begin with. |
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| 12:08.07 | fraff | asg: yes, I could, but it's a shame to use raid software when hard exists ... |
| 12:08.11 | bkraptor | asg: nope, doesn't work |
| 12:08.33 | asg | fraff: it is but in this case, I don't think it will make much difference. |
| 12:08.53 | asg | bkraptor: then wrap whatever you want to run from ALT+F2 in a script that does the right thing and type that in instead. |
| 12:09.36 | bkraptor | asg: it's different every time. I want to use the aliases defined in /etc/bash.bashrc |
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| 12:10.09 | asg | bkraptor: why not just put them in your own ~/.bashrc ... they should be available at that point |
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| 12:12.05 | bkraptor | asg: that doesn't work either :( |
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| 12:16.57 | enouf | asg: fraff might he need that serverworks module avail in the initrd? |
| 12:17.18 | asg | enouf: good point |
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| 12:18.17 | fraff | enouf: very good point |
| 12:18.18 | enouf | fraff: add serverworks to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.x.x |
| 12:19.01 | enouf | fraff: well if /boot and/or rootfs are on it .. i'd think you'd need it |
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| 12:20.20 | JyZyXEL | wasn't there an ncurses tool to modify rc?.d's |
| 12:20.23 | fraff | I've booted on a live disk, I can see both hda and hdb disk but no raid, maybe I should modprobe -r everything and modprobe again |
| 12:20.27 | asg | JyZyXEL: rcconf |
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| 12:20.33 | enouf | i notice, the path has changed, from /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/serverworks.ko to /lib/modules/2.6.29-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/serverworks.ko (not that it matters .. just noting) |
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| 12:20.57 | enouf | (note the extra pci/ dir in the older kernel) |
| 12:21.16 | JyZyXEL | nicee |
| 12:21.18 | enouf | JyZyXEL: as asg mentioned |
| 12:21.35 | maff | Hi. Could anybody give me a quick hint how i can change the dependency of a package? I have exactly this problem, but don't know how to change that dependency: http://src.enomaly.com/ticket/123 |
| 12:22.17 | enouf | fraff: your hardware raid would need to be also configured in it |
| 12:22.25 | enouf | 's own BIOS setup |
| 12:23.04 | fraff | enouf: it is |
| 12:23.04 | enouf | maff: maybe /msg dpkg equivs (i'm tired of looking at pastebins today :-P) |
| 12:23.46 | enouf | fraff: on your installation - which kernel? |
| 12:24.45 | fraff | enouf: I've build a live lenny with liver-helper (very usefull by the way), so the kernel is 2.6.26-1-486 |
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| 12:28.03 | maff | enouf: don't know i understand you correctly...what does /msg dpkg equivs do? i basically just need to change the dependency of an existing .deb package from libxen3.1-dev to libxen-dev. Is there a tool i can use to unpack and repack an existing .deb package? |
| 12:28.35 | mesa_booger | maff: yes there is. dpkg-deb |
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| 12:29.41 | maff | mesa_booger: thx :) |
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| 12:31.34 | mesa_booger | maff: dpkg-deb -x, and dpkg-deb -e, to unpack a package and it's control files. dpkg-deb -b to repack |
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| 12:34.41 | sylar | if I set in James ServerName hostname-or-ip-address , will it send from that IP only? |
| 12:34.59 | sylar | Can it send from an IP that isn't on the server? |
| 12:35.13 | petemc | sylar: you might want to give your questions some context |
| 12:35.21 | maff | mesa_booger: thanks, worked like a charm :) |
| 12:36.17 | sylar | I have lots of IPs on two server that send cups prints through a firewall, so I want the cups to be just one IP so I will have one rule on the firewall |
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| 12:37.06 | sylar | petemc, ^ context ^ |
| 12:37.26 | petemc | yes |
| 12:38.14 | sylar | s/james/Cups |
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| 12:39.11 | sylar | yes? It will send prints that will apear from an IP that it doesn't have? |
| 12:39.20 | petemc | no, i said yes thats context |
| 12:39.28 | sylar | ah |
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| 12:40.47 | sylar | so ... what IP does it send from? |
| 12:41.51 | petemc | in my experience, it will use the ip of the last interface to be brought up |
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| 12:42.04 | petemc | note that my experience does not cover you exact scenario |
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| 12:44.58 | Esto | how to know from which package file coming from? |
| 12:45.07 | petemc | dpkg -S /path/to/file |
| 12:45.07 | dpkg | Badgers ate my /path/to/file! |
| 12:45.08 | asg | Esto: dpkg -S |
| 12:45.11 | Esto | THANKS |
| 12:45.17 | Esto | oh, sorry for caps |
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| 12:45.52 | sylar | petemc, my ips are aliases eth0:0 eth0:1 ... so then the order of that will cause the selection I guess |
| 12:46.08 | petemc | sylar: yes, i use ip aliases too |
| 12:47.04 | ranix | dpkg -S petemc |
| 12:47.04 | dpkg | There is no record of a petemc package |
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| 12:51.49 | niklaswe | hmm i will try to setup 2 instance of sshd to run on diffrent ports.. but i cant find in the init.d/sshd where i should specify which config it should use |
| 12:52.32 | asg | niklaswe: sshd -f /path/to/conf |
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| 12:53.33 | joltcan | niklaswe: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and add more ports to the "Ports" config value |
| 12:53.51 | joltcan | niklaswe: Eh, add more Ports statements |
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| 12:55.09 | niklaswe | joltcan: but i will using it 22 = public key and another port will not use public key |
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| 13:04.17 | joltcan | niklaswe: Ok, that wasn't in the first question, so -f is fine thne |
| 13:04.31 | kurkale6ka | Hi, I've just installed debian on a hp laptop with resolution 1440... but I have only 1028, how can I reconfigure it/ |
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| 13:06.51 | Dunge | I've build a few libs with the -g flag (debug) and find them too slow so I would like to strip them. Any guide using the strip command? Should I use -g or --strip-unneeded? |
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| 13:08.53 | kurkale6ka | This is the output of lspci: http://vim.pastey.net/116870 |
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| 13:15.40 | Drakeson | is something wrong with sid? "aptitude update" doesn't get any Packages. |
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| 13:22.10 | dimm | i need for pre-up for network. i can put it any file, and put 'pre-up /root/network/pre-up' to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:22.14 | dimm | am i right? |
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| 13:26.03 | cast_ | evening all, how do i keep an entry in /etc/resolv.conf, keeps getting overwritten [possibly due to dhcp? am using wicd to get on the wlan, then openvpn, i need the vpn name server and not the wlan one] :\ |
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| 13:27.37 | Mariusika | im looking for a program in linux to join or merge PDF files? |
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| 13:28.35 | asg | cast_: you should be able to set a static nameserver in the dhcp config. Or you could hamfist the config and prevent overwriting by making the file immutable (chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf) |
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| 13:29.08 | Drakeson | Mariusika: look for pdfjoin |
| 13:29.34 | Drakeson | (aptitude install pdfjam) |
| 13:29.49 | Mariusika | in synaptic? |
| 13:29.50 | cast_ | asg: hmm, i like the immutable one way, thanks :) |
| 13:30.19 | Drakeson | Mariusika: the package name is pdfjam (e.g. in synaptic), and the command you should look for after you install the package is pdfjoin. |
| 13:30.21 | Mariusika | Drakeson: pdfjam = pdfjoin |
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| 13:33.45 | gothenburg | kot |
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| 13:47.26 | dimm | what last stable kernel for etch ? |
| 13:47.59 | OpenTokix | !debian kernel-version |
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| 13:48.05 | OpenTokix | !debian kernel |
| 13:48.05 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
| 13:48.12 | OpenTokix | bah |
| 13:48.21 | OpenTokix | !debian linux-image |
| 13:48.40 | RichiH | i seem to remeber that there is a limit on how many cnames you can daisy-chain..? |
| 13:48.58 | asg | dimm: 2.6.18 |
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| 13:49.54 | dimm | hm, i think my question was wrong... becouse i don't specify arch, am i right? |
| 13:50.17 | asg | it is 2.6.18-6-arch on all arches |
| 13:50.38 | asg | i.e., Linux gimp 2.6.18-6-ixp4xx #1 Wed May 6 00:18:36 BST 2009 armv5tel GNU/Linux |
| 13:50.50 | dimm | thanks |
| 13:50.55 | petemc | and 2.6.24 for etchnhalf |
| 13:51.10 | dimm | next question from newbie: this is from handbook |
| 13:51.20 | dimm | Then install your choice using its package name. |
| 13:51.21 | dimm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.35 | dimm | what -etc at the end of package-name? |
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| 13:52.01 | asg | -etc could be vserver, xen, kvm, etc., etc. |
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| 13:52.59 | dimm | how i can to know about my package name? something like this -> kernel-image-2.6.18-s390x ? |
| 13:53.00 | asg | dimm: apt-cache search linux-image will give you all the flavours |
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| 13:53.07 | dimm | great! |
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| 13:54.35 | dimm | asg, yes, it is in handbook, but i was think, that i can find more fresh kernel than 'apt-cache search' showing |
| 13:55.04 | asg | !etchnahalft |
| 13:55.09 | asg | eep |
| 13:55.13 | asg | !etchnhalf |
| 13:55.14 | dpkg | "etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf Installation instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf See also http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf or <etchnhalf facts> |
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| 13:55.37 | asg | dimm: check ^^^ for newer etch kernels that were released half way through |
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| 14:04.20 | ToreadorVampire | Argh, I keep having to re-ask this question, each time someone answers and I keep forgetting the answer the next time I need to ask it :( How do I search for a package based on "the name of the application it installs in /usr/bin (or wherever)" |
| 14:04.35 | ranix | apt-file |
| 14:04.53 | ToreadorVampire | I'm looking for mencoder, but apt-cache search finds nothing with that name, so if the package exists I don't know what it's called |
| 14:05.08 | petemc | ToreadorVampire: /msg dpkg dmm |
| 14:05.12 | stew | ToreadorVampire: mencoder isn't in debian |
| 14:05.20 | ToreadorVampire | oh? Crap :( |
| 14:05.40 | kurkale6ka | Hi, my hp laptop has a native resolution of 1440... Apparently debian didn't guess this and does not allow me to use higher than 1280... Can it be fixed? |
| 14:06.00 | kurkale6ka | I mean 1028 |
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| 14:17.22 | groton | which tool to store the stream of data in a file via tcp? |
| 14:17.41 | asg | groton: netcat or socat |
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| 14:22.48 | Binnisb | Can I create a tar.gz that does not write over folders when extracted but replaces files in the folders that already exist or creates them? Or is it only in the extraction process that I can decide that? |
| 14:24.36 | dimm | Binnisb, you can |
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| 14:24.50 | dimm | my english is too low, sorry |
| 14:25.03 | asg | kurkale6ka: if you run 'xrandr', does it list the higher resolution? |
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| 14:25.50 | j0n23 | Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 \n \l + mysql Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.32 |
| 14:25.56 | j0n23 | i want to 5.0.35 |
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| 14:25.57 | j0n23 | anyways? |
| 14:26.07 | j0n23 | i mean 5.0.45 |
| 14:26.09 | dimm | Binnisb, as far as i understand you, you want extract files from tar.gz to something path without 'tar -C' for change dir to extract? |
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| 14:27.26 | kai4711 | hi guys... is it possible that some debian distribution server for apt-get is down for 2 days? i get this for days when doing a apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/d6c8a2c8 |
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| 14:28.33 | dimm | Binnisb, don't read my last post |
| 14:28.33 | wizl | everything is possible |
| 14:28.37 | anxiolytic_1 | I'm missing lsmod - not in /sbin, nowhere to be found |
| 14:28.39 | anxiolytic_1 | ??? |
| 14:28.56 | dimm | apt-file ? |
| 14:29.08 | justin | kai4711: try http instead of ftp |
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| 14:29.22 | JPT | anxiolytic_1: if its installed try which lsmod |
| 14:29.31 | fraff | anxiolytic_1: apt-get --reinstall install module-init-tools ? |
| 14:29.35 | asg | anxiolytic_1: make sure module-init-tools is installed |
| 14:30.05 | fraff | modprobe and insmod parts module-init-tools, can't run without it |
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| 14:30.31 | j0n23 | hey |
| 14:30.36 | fraff | is that possible to say to the kernel not to load anything about IDE ? |
| 14:30.41 | j0n23 | how can i get latest repo for mysql |
| 14:30.43 | j0n23 | in debian |
| 14:30.53 | fraff | man bootparam doesn't help for that |
| 14:30.54 | asg | fraff: /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 14:31.27 | anxiolytic_1 | fraff/asg: thanks, that worked. But why would lsmod be missing? I upgraded from Sarge to Lenny awhile back, but never used lsmod on this server so I don't know if it ever existed. I figure it's part of the standard install though? |
| 14:31.49 | anxiolytic_1 | do I gotta restart before lsmod will show anything? |
| 14:31.54 | asg | anxiolytic_1: if you were running a pure monolithic kernel, such utilities would not be needed. |
| 14:32.24 | fraff | asg: is it from command line ? I don't want to re-create an other live cd ... lazy (I like that bot by the way) |
| 14:32.27 | anxiolytic_1 | I'm suspicious because rkhunter seems to be gone too .. hmm ! |
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| 14:33.05 | asg | fraff: oh, that's different. |
| 14:34.31 | kurkale6ka | Hi, my hp laptop has a native resolution of 1440... Apparently debian didn't guess this and does not allow me to use higher than 1024... Can it be fixed? |
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| 14:36.05 | nkuttler | kurkale6ka: do you have a Modes line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 14:36.14 | asg | fraff: why are you wanting to blacklist the ide code? is it freezing on boot? |
| 14:36.53 | kurkale6ka | nkuttler: lemme check |
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| 14:37.46 | kurkale6ka | nkuttler: no |
| 14:37.59 | mamalujo | hi! how would I setup the .ssh/authorized_keys as mentioned i should in ftpsync'r README, to make a local mirror of debian for my architecture? Im expecting not to have much internet connectivity rest of the summer, and would like to continue exploring the system.. |
| 14:38.08 | ranix | Is there a good way to automatically blacklist any host who makes some amount (say 50) rejected email attempts in exim4? |
| 14:38.45 | ranix | I am having people try to hit me with a whole name dictionary and just returning "no, you're in the PSBL" every time |
| 14:38.53 | ranix | it's a waste of bandwidth |
| 14:38.56 | fraff | asg: just a try, it seems it doesn't see my serverworks ide raid controler so I'd like to modprobe it myself, not at boottime (on a live cd) |
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| 14:39.07 | daedhel | hi |
| 14:39.30 | asg | fraff: you may want to look at the hd=noprobe bit in bootparams(7) to prevent auto-probing |
| 14:39.35 | daedhel | my usb external drive isn't automatically populated in /dev/ |
| 14:39.54 | daedhel | any suggestions ? |
| 14:40.07 | kurkale6ka | nkuttler: next? |
| 14:40.14 | asg | ranix: setup an acl to deny or drop connections from a list of ips in a file. Then write a small daemon or cron job to isolate the offenders from the exim rejectlog based on your threshold |
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| 14:40.24 | nkuttler | kurkale6ka: see man xorg.conf or xrandr -s |
| 14:42.05 | nkuttler | mamalujo: hm? |
| 14:42.11 | fraff | asg: I've seen that but it doesn't blacklist ide and man says disk is still a valid block device .. |
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| 14:42.12 | x4d | Hello, I have a backup drive that I plug in with a USB base and I would like it to automount to /mnt/backup/, in fstab I have set the UUID so and the path to this directory, however when I boot up I have to press control+D because usually I have this disk disconected. There is probably an option in fstab so that it ignores some drives if they are not found, which I think is noauto. Now when I plug in the disk will I have to manually mount the disk or does it recogni |
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| 14:42.12 | mmlj4 | how do I set LANGUAGE, etc.? |
| 14:42.12 | kurkale6ka | nkuttler: the max xrand shows is 1024x768. this is my problem. the screen is natively 1440... |
| 14:42.12 | asg | fraff: you might also want to try booting in expert mode and dropping to a shell before the probes begin though I think that happens before the installer starts. You may end up having to build another live cd. |
| 14:42.13 | nkuttler | mmlj4: in your ~/.bashrc ? |
| 14:42.16 | daedhel | mmlj4, try "dpkg-reconfigure locales" |
| 14:42.22 | ranix | asg: hm, thanks. I guess nobody else has something like that written already. Is it possible to drop all incoming TCP connections from an IP address, like with iptables or something? I don't know where to begin looking that up |
| 14:42.25 | nkuttler | kurkale6ka: ah, bad. try different video driver? |
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| 14:42.37 | mamalujo | nk, I think Im asking how to get the public key of a debian mirror, not sure though :) |
| 14:42.41 | mmlj4 | ah, locales, thanks |
| 14:42.44 | scream_ | x4d, set last two numbers on the drive's line in fstab to 0 0 |
| 14:42.44 | nkuttler | kurkale6ka: or maybe you need to specify sync/refresh |
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| 14:43.04 | x4d | scream_: without noauto then ? |
| 14:43.12 | kurkale6ka | nkuttler: whit xrand? |
| 14:43.25 | asg | ranix: yes, iptables can do that. There are existing scripts to do it for ssh scans; you might adapt one of them. |
| 14:43.28 | nkuttler | kurkale6ka: i guess that works too, i'd do it in the config |
| 14:43.37 | scream_ | x4d, no the dump and pass columns |
| 14:43.45 | x4d | scream_: thanks |
| 14:43.52 | nkuttler | mamalujo: what are you trying to do? |
| 14:43.54 | ranix | thank 'ya asg. One more thing, do you think this is a reasonably good idea, or is it a waste? |
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| 14:44.01 | scream_ | x4d, no prob :) |
| 14:44.38 | mamalujo | nkuttler: a mirror of debian, amd64 arch. |
| 14:44.39 | edwin_quijada | I get this error with NC Can't grab 0.0.0.0:2020 with bind |
| 14:44.45 | edwin_quijada | any clueeS? |
| 14:44.46 | asg | ranix: well, it depends on how much bandwidth is consumed for a full connection versus a single syn packet. It is a fun exercise though. |
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| 14:45.26 | asg | ranix: something we do with OpenBSD at work is to tarpit known idiots by speaking to them very slowly causing them to waste their time. |
| 14:45.33 | emiltin | i have a problem with /etc/profile and PATH. it seems only to be loaded when i ssh to my server from a terminal, not when i use the ruby lib Net::SSH. what could cause /etc/profile not to be loaded? |
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| 14:46.06 | ranix | asg: yeah, I was considering doing something like that, as well. Since they're going to spam me all day anyway, it doesn't waste any of my resources to just have them sit there waiting |
| 14:46.10 | daedhel | my usb external drive stopped being automatically populated in /dev/ . anyone can help ? |
| 14:46.19 | nkuttler | emiltin: man bash, see invocation |
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| 14:46.35 | emiltin | nkuttler: ok i'll try.. |
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| 14:46.55 | asg | ranix: I also use honeypots that aren't listed in DNS as MX for our sites that do the same thing for the autoscanners. |
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| 14:47.07 | kurkale6ka | nkuttler: where can I have a driver for: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M](rev a2) |
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| 14:47.31 | IneQuati1n | hi all, I have a little question about squeeze and kde4 |
| 14:47.53 | nkuttler | kurkale6ka: /msg dpkg nvidia for the non-free ones, or nv afaik, or vesa |
| 14:48.34 | asg | !tell IneQuati1n about ask |
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| 14:49.13 | kurkale6ka | nkuttler: sorry, is this for apt-get? |
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| 14:49.32 | nkuttler | kurkale6ka: /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 14:50.11 | daedhel | IneQuati1n, ask your question clearly, concisely with many details. dont ask to ask. I will do what I can to help you |
| 14:50.33 | kurkale6ka | nkuttler: /msg dpkg nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
| 14:50.41 | nkuttler | !tell kurkale6ka about nvidia |
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| 14:50.56 | DiabolusFilius | !tell DiabolusFilius about life, the universe, and everything |
| 14:51.07 | DiabolusFilius | thereby proving that noone knows |
| 14:51.10 | DiabolusFilius | :P |
| 14:51.11 | DiabolusFilius | sorry |
| 14:51.28 | IneQuati1n | I've made countless installs of lenny from netinst CDs when it was still in testing. My procedure used to be install a base system, boot from it and then install kde-core kdm yakuake to get a base KDE system. Now I wanted to do the same with the new testing (squeeze), but to my surprise the installation of these packages doesn't even install xserver. |
| 14:51.41 | hikenboot_ | sorry to bug you guys but where do i go to find out what the latest stable version of the linux kernel is from debians perspective? |
| 14:51.58 | daedhel | IneQuati1n, so ? |
| 14:52.09 | daedhel | IneQuati1n, you want to install xserver ? |
| 14:52.26 | nkuttler | hikenboot_: apt-cache search linux-image |
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| 14:52.32 | careta | hello |
| 14:52.45 | IneQuati1n | daedhel: so I'd like to know how to get kde4 running? the kde metapackage wants to downgrade some of kde-core dependencies I've already installed |
| 14:53.13 | daedhel | hikenboot_, search in the packages on the website, in the stable (lenny) version. search for kernel |
| 14:53.33 | nkuttler | IneQuati1n: if you get errors pastebin them |
| 14:53.34 | hikenboot_ | ah simple as that thanks |
| 14:53.35 | daedhel | IneQuati1n, let it do what it has to do |
| 14:53.40 | IneQuati1n | deadhel: correction, at first I didn't install kdm, only kde-core, then I installed kdm and it depended on x.org so I got it downloaded |
| 14:53.50 | IneQuati1n | nkuttler: negative, no errors |
| 14:54.09 | IneQuati1n | daedhel: but why downgrade to 3.5.9? |
| 14:54.30 | daedhel | IneQuati1n, no idea... might be compatibilty issues or something |
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| 14:55.27 | IneQuati1n | dadhel: but how on earth? this is a fresh install, I just booted up after installing the base system |
| 14:55.58 | nkuttler | IneQuati1n: it |
| 14:55.58 | nkuttler | IneQuati1n: it's testing.. |
| 14:56.07 | IneQuati1n | daedhel: I haven't even installed any console tools, using my shell account to access IRC |
| 14:56.12 | daedhel | ^ yup |
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| 14:56.48 | daedhel | IneQuati1n, if you want bleeding edge versions, I suggest Sidux. it works |
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| 14:56.56 | IneQuati1n | I've been using debian for 2 years and I never had an issue like this before |
| 14:57.15 | IneQuati1n | daedhel: it's not about bleeding edge, it's about not being obsolete... |
| 14:57.21 | nkuttler | IneQuati1n: you have been lucky so far |
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| 14:57.37 | DiabolusFilius | IneQuati1n: having every single package up-to-date at all times is an impossible goal |
| 14:57.40 | DiabolusFilius | be realistic |
| 14:57.41 | daedhel | IneQuati1n, still, Sidux distro is much better than testing |
| 14:58.04 | daedhel | IneQuati1n, give it a try, you wont come back |
| 14:58.17 | nkuttler | IneQuati1n: sidux is off-topic and not supported here, jfyi |
| 14:58.17 | daedhel | DiabolusFilius, archlinux does it |
| 14:58.38 | j0n23 | hey |
| 14:58.39 | DiabolusFilius | daedhel: hmmm... |
| 14:58.47 | DiabolusFilius | it's not a goal i would set for myself |
| 14:58.52 | j0n23 | i would like to update mysql-servr to the lates |
| 14:58.56 | DiabolusFilius | i want a little slack |
| 14:59.20 | daedhel | DiabolusFilius, archlinux is a distro |
| 14:59.51 | DiabolusFilius | i know |
| 14:59.55 | DiabolusFilius | i don't use arch |
| 14:59.56 | daedhel | my usb external drive stopped being automatically populated in /dev/ . anyone can help ? |
| 14:59.57 | DiabolusFilius | i don't like it |
| 15:00.14 | DiabolusFilius | i don't like the overall feel of it |
| 15:00.17 | nkuttler | daedhel: dmesg | tail, /var/log/messages, lsusb |
| 15:00.21 | DiabolusFilius | i'm more of a BSD person |
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| 15:00.27 | IneQuati1n | DiabolusFilius: I'm not expecting everything to be up to date, it's just that I have a working squeeze (installed yet as lenny) on the pc right next to me with kde4 and I can't seem to be able to install it on a fresh install! |
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| 15:00.44 | IneQuati1n | DiabolusFilius: that's my problem |
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| 15:00.56 | DiabolusFilius | IneQuati1n: i don't know how to solve your problem |
| 15:01.01 | nkuttler | IneQuati1n: it's testing. testing is changing rapidly. if you have problems with kdm or whatever it was don't install it |
| 15:01.06 | ryanprior | With cdbs, how is the destination directory passed to my makefile? My package build always fails at the end. |
| 15:01.14 | DiabolusFilius | i have a suckish connection, and have a not update version of lenny |
| 15:01.24 | j0n23 | hey what is the name of debian testing repository |
| 15:01.24 | DiabolusFilius | i use local repos a friend burned for me |
| 15:01.25 | j0n23 | ? |
| 15:01.35 | nkuttler | j0n23: testing/squeeze |
| 15:01.49 | nkuttler | j0n23: /msg dpkg backports |
| 15:01.54 | IneQuati1n | nkuttler: is there any difference if I use testing or squeeze? |
| 15:02.01 | nkuttler | IneQuati1n: no |
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| 15:02.05 | alkisg | Hi, I'd like to host an apt repository on my own server. My main concern is that the server will be remote, and each package will be >100Mb, so I want to be able to only send the changes every time I change something. What should I use for that, reprepro? |
| 15:02.33 | ryanprior | alkisg: rsync? |
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| 15:02.53 | alkisg | ryanprior: I thought of working with dput or something more specialized to .deb packages... |
| 15:03.00 | dabreegster | All the links from http://debian.org/CD/netinst are broken; 5.01 is in http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd, but not 5.0.2 |
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| 15:03.22 | ryanprior | rsync works at the block level, so it doesn't matter what you're syncing |
| 15:03.36 | alkisg | ryanprior: so that the building process happens on the server with pbuilder or something, not locally |
| 15:03.38 | nkuttler | dabreegster: you can file a bug against the website |
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| 15:04.07 | IneQuati1n | maybe it's just t he polish mirror... I'll try updating from the main one |
| 15:04.16 | ryanprior | alkisg: so you're building more like a compile farm, then? |
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| 15:04.28 | nkuttler | dabreegster: acutally, debian-www@lists.debian.org |
| 15:04.49 | dabreegster | nkuttler: Thanks, i was trying to find a package that somehow represented the website, that works better |
| 15:05.10 | nkuttler | dabreegster: i thing there used to be one, but http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ lists the email |
| 15:05.47 | alkisg | ryanprior: I guess so. How Debian archives or launchpad work? There, I can send the .changes and .diff files with dput... |
| 15:06.06 | daedhel | nkuttler, http://pastebin.com/f78bc2a86 |
| 15:06.39 | nkuttler | daedhel: hm, that looks like it's not partitioned? |
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| 15:06.57 | daedhel | nkuttler, okay... one sec |
| 15:07.33 | nkuttler | daedhel: cat /proc/partitions |
| 15:07.40 | ryanprior | alkisg: I've never set one of those up before; you might try searching Google for advice on building Debian build farms or Ubuntu build farms. |
| 15:08.33 | daedhel | nkuttler, plugged it in my other box, and in gparted, I see the fat32 partition. I will check if dosfstools is intalled on the debian box |
| 15:08.37 | alkisg | Thanks ryanprior, I was looking for the advice of someone more experienced, e.g. "prefer that tool over the other" - because google can't give me experience :) |
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| 15:08.58 | zxd | does anyone know a gui tool for alerting when quota soft limit is reached |
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| 15:09.17 | ryanprior | alkisg: the best tool is the one you can get working. ;-) Good luck. |
| 15:09.22 | alkisg | THanks |
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| 15:10.33 | daedhel | nkuttler, http://pastebin.com/f4dc952e6 |
| 15:10.40 | daedhel | nkuttler, still not working |
| 15:11.03 | nkuttler | daedhel: did you build your own kernel? |
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| 15:11.11 | daedhel | nkuttler, nope |
| 15:11.33 | nkuttler | daedhel: no idea then. certainly odd. |
| 15:11.40 | daedhel | nkuttler, Linux mx.jordanroy.info 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Sun Jun 21 04:57:38 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:12.49 | daedhel | nkuttler, any hints on what I should look for ? |
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| 15:14.47 | nkuttler | daedhel: dmesg | tail when pluggin in? |
| 15:15.58 | daedhel | nkuttler, http://pastebin.com/f625e5eb4 |
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| 15:16.42 | xsdg | hey, all. I'm trying to mirror my root device, but I can't figure out how to make the kernel boot off of the md device. Any suggestions? |
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| 15:16.58 | xsdg | if I try using root=/dev/md1 or root=0901, it says it can't find the device |
| 15:17.03 | boha_ | how do i change gnome foot for debian logo in menu ? |
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| 15:17.55 | nan8 | xsdg: which boot loader do you use? |
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| 15:18.08 | xsdg | nan8: grub, but it's not a bootloader problem |
| 15:18.40 | nan8 | xsdg: your kernel is booted but the kernel does not find the root fs? |
| 15:18.55 | xsdg | nan8: correct |
| 15:19.07 | j0n23 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:19.37 | nan8 | xsdg: do you use a initrd image? |
| 15:19.46 | xsdg | nan8: no |
| 15:19.52 | xsdg | nan8: raid1 is compiled into the kernel |
| 15:20.33 | nan8 | xsdg: hmm - i think the typical approach is to let the initrd image assemble the md raid |
| 15:21.08 | xsdg | :o/ |
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| 15:21.21 | nan8 | xsdg: maybe you have to tell the kernel to auto assemble the raid |
| 15:21.28 | nan8 | xsdg: which kernel version do you use? |
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| 15:22.17 | xsdg | nan8: 2.6.30 |
| 15:22.40 | nan8 | xsdg: i think the behaviour regarding auto assembling of md raid was changed recently |
| 15:22.54 | nan8 | xsdg: i think it is considered dangerous |
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| 15:23.06 | nan8 | xsdg: but please note those: i think - prefixes ;-) |
| 15:23.13 | xsdg | nan8: :o) |
| 15:23.47 | daedhel | nkuttler, should I try a backport kernel or something ? |
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| 15:24.13 | nan8 | xsdg: i use quite the defaults you get if you install lenny with lvm on md raid - no problems here |
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| 15:24.59 | xsdg | nan8: ::nod:: |
| 15:25.02 | nkuttler | daedhel: no idea |
| 15:25.18 | daedhel | ok thanks |
| 15:25.21 | xsdg | nan8: I'm just specifically trying to avoid using an initrd/initramfs |
| 15:25.48 | nan8 | xsdg: watch for related kernel arguments in the kernel docs |
| 15:26.04 | nan8 | xsdg: maybe also look into the changelog |
| 15:26.16 | xsdg | nan8: cool; thanks |
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| 15:26.54 | nan8 | xsdg: ::nod:: = ? |
| 15:27.18 | xsdg | nan8: same as *nod*; to signify the action of nodding :o) |
| 15:28.05 | j0n23 | how can i upgrade a single package |
| 15:28.20 | nan8 | must update his jargon file |
| 15:28.53 | nan8 | or maybe learn some english |
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| 15:30.14 | daedhel | my usb external drive stopped being automatically populated in /dev/ . anyone can help ? |
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| 15:32.13 | petemc | daedhel: do you see anything in dmesg/messages/syslog ? |
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| 15:33.07 | daedhel | petemc, everything is there in dmesg. it just don't appear in /dev/ : http://pastebin.com/f625e5eb4 |
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| 15:35.55 | nkuttler | daedhel: lsmod | grep sd ? |
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| 15:37.06 | daedhel | nkuttler, nothing |
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| 15:37.15 | nkuttler | daedhel: modprobe sd_mod |
| 15:38.08 | daedhel | nkuttler, module loaded |
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| 15:38.30 | nkuttler | daedhel: plug in the drive again, paste /var/log/messages |
| 15:38.39 | daedhel | nkuttler, took the usb drive ou and back in |
| 15:38.42 | daedhel | nothing |
| 15:38.44 | daedhel | ok wai |
| 15:38.47 | daedhel | wait |
| 15:39.02 | mamalujo | where is this lockfile created w ftpsync - starting typicalsync says: aryah is unable to start sync, lock file exists |
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| 15:39.40 | nkuttler | daedhel: and dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 15:39.48 | daedhel | nkuttler, http://pastebin.com/f17542eb8 |
| 15:39.51 | Dunge | Any reason why after calling "strip" it don't return to bash? Using another tty and "ps -A", strip is not running. I tried ctrl+z ctrl+c.. it just have the cursor flashing and don't exit. I also tried "shutdown -r now" from another tty and it don't want to.. tty1 seems froze and I can't reboot. |
| 15:40.13 | nkuttler | daedhel: there you go |
| 15:40.31 | daedhel | dpkg : http://pastebin.com/f7bfd6a4d |
| 15:40.31 | dpkg | daedhel: I give up, what is it? |
| 15:40.34 | nkuttler | daedhel: really odd, did you blacklist sd_mod or something? |
| 15:40.47 | daedhel | nkuttler, : http://pastebin.com/f7bfd6a4d |
| 15:40.57 | daedhel | nkuttler, nope |
| 15:41.10 | daedhel | nkuttler, still dont see it in /dev/ tho |
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| 15:42.07 | Dunge | guess I will have to hard reset it... |
| 15:42.19 | Dunge | even if it's on a sdcard and it will probably corrupt it |
| 15:42.40 | nkuttler | daedhel: sounds like a udev issue |
| 15:43.18 | daedhel | hmmm |
| 15:43.47 | daedhel | <nkuttler> daedhel: there you go <--- what ? |
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| 15:44.06 | nkuttler | daedhel: the kernel clearly recognizes the partition now |
| 15:44.13 | daedhel | oh ok |
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| 15:44.41 | unicum | anyone here firm with ssh agent forwarding? |
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| 15:45.52 | nan8 | unicum: just ask your question |
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| 15:47.50 | unicum | uhm.. i ssh from my box to boxA and then to boxB (which i have to do this way). both, boxA and boxB, have my public keys. now "man ssh | grep agent | grep forward" suggests to use -A for agent forwarding, but doing a ssh -A unicum@boxB from boxA still asks for a password |
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| 15:48.07 | unicum | i'm probably just doing something wrong.. though i dunno what |
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| 15:54.40 | stevo32_ | hi. i'm trying to grab lenny, but when i click the i386 link on this page http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#smallcd i get redirected to this page which 404s: http://caesar.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/5.0.2/i386/iso-cd/debian-502-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 15:54.59 | zeta3 | ops |
| 15:55.07 | zeta3 | please ban Vanessa984 for spamming porn links via pm. |
| 15:55.36 | stevo32_ | i just got spammed too |
| 15:55.37 | nkuttler | stevo32_: try 5.0.1 and 501 |
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| 15:55.46 | nkuttler | !ops Vanessa984 spam |
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| 15:55.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: nkuttler complains about: Vanessa984 spam |
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| 15:55.56 | stevo32_ | nkuttler: kk |
| 15:55.58 | stevo32_ | thanks |
| 15:56.06 | RichiH | nkuttler: ta |
| 15:58.44 | karlpinc | stevo32_ : You should be able to use another mirror. |
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| 15:59.52 | IneQuati1n | daedhel> wait |
| 15:59.53 | IneQuati1n | 10:39 < mamalujo> where is this lockfile created w ftpsync - starting typicalsync says: aryah is unable to start sync, lock file exists |
| 15:59.56 | IneQuati1n | 10:39 -!- MJS [n=MJS@p4FD0DEF0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian |
| 15:59.58 | IneQuati1n | 10:39 < nkuttler> daedhel: and dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 16:00.01 | IneQuati1n | 10:39 < daedhel> nkuttler, http://pastebin.com/f17542eb8 |
| 16:00.03 | IneQuati1n | 10:39 < Dunge> Any reason why after calling "strip" it don't return to bash? Using another tty and "ps -A", strip is not running. I tried ctrl+z ctrl+c.. it |
| 16:00.20 | IneQuati1n | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.20 | IneQuati1n | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.20 | IneQuati1n | 10:40 < nkuttler> daedhel: there you go |
| 16:00.20 | IneQuati1n | 10:40 < daedhel> dpkg : http://pastebin.com/f7bfd6a4d |
| 16:00.20 | IneQuati1n | daedhel> wait |
| 16:00.21 | IneQuati1n | 10:39 < mamalujo> where is this lockfile created w ftpsync - starting typicalsync says: aryah is unable to start sync, lock file exists |
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| 16:00.25 | IneQuati1n | 10:39 < nkuttler> daedhel: and dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 16:00.28 | IneQuati1n | 10:39 < daedhel> nkuttler, http://pastebin.com/f17542eb8 |
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| 16:00.39 | daedhel | !!! |
| 16:00.39 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 16:00.53 | nkuttler | karlpinc: even the stuff linked from http://debian.org/CD/netinst/ 404s |
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| 16:02.25 | FJ_Sanchez | Hi |
| 16:02.39 | FJ_Sanchez | How can I force apt-get to install a package with broken deps? |
| 16:03.14 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: why would you want to? when are you going to fix the broken deps? |
| 16:03.26 | nkuttler | FJ_Sanchez: try aptitude first |
| 16:03.32 | FJ_Sanchez | It's a very old system |
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| 16:03.37 | FJ_Sanchez | reps are down |
| 16:03.44 | FJ_Sanchez | But I want to install a package anyway |
| 16:03.45 | nkuttler | FJ_Sanchez: archive.debian.org |
| 16:04.02 | FJ_Sanchez | It's a debian like, but no debian, just using apt |
| 16:04.02 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: show us your sources.list ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 16:04.27 | FJ_Sanchez | I've tried using -f, -m and nothings seems to work |
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| 16:05.03 | FJ_Sanchez | It's a stupid problem with name of the packages |
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| 16:05.50 | FJ_Sanchez | What is the file where all the deps are stated for a package? |
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| 16:10.30 | FJ_Sanchez | Do you know how can I change deps of a package? |
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| 16:10.36 | FJ_Sanchez | What file should I mod? |
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| 16:12.43 | FJ_Sanchez | Ok, I got it |
| 16:13.10 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: what depds are you trying to change. you are probably trying to fix this the wrong way |
| 16:13.28 | FJ_Sanchez | Sure, but it's an old debian like installation |
| 16:13.33 | FJ_Sanchez | So don't worry about it |
| 16:13.47 | FJ_Sanchez | It wants a package with a different name |
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| 16:13.53 | FJ_Sanchez | But I know that this doesn't matter |
| 16:13.56 | linduxed | im doing a net install, what are the benefits of setting up LVM or an encrypted LVM? why not go with the classic use entire disk? |
| 16:14.09 | FJ_Sanchez | Just changed deps in /var/lib/apt/list... |
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| 16:14.51 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: yeah, you are DEFINATELY going about this the wrong way |
| 16:15.03 | FJ_Sanchez | I know |
| 16:15.14 | FJ_Sanchez | But it doesn't matter, it's just a sandbox |
| 16:15.25 | FJ_Sanchez | I can fully destroy it |
| 16:15.28 | FJ_Sanchez | ^^ |
| 16:15.33 | stew | i don't doubt it |
| 16:15.49 | FJ_Sanchez | Anyway, what should be the right way? |
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| 16:16.22 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: show us your sources.list ; tell us what package it is and what dependency you are changing |
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| 16:16.56 | FJ_Sanchez | But I just want to know how can I solve this, no you solving it |
| 16:17.09 | stew | ok |
| 16:17.13 | FJ_Sanchez | I'd like to know the way to fix my packages deps |
| 16:17.18 | stew | which deps? |
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| 16:17.41 | rudi_s | !tell linduxed about lvm |
| 16:17.47 | daedhel | my usb external drive stopped being automatically populated in /dev/ . anyone can help ? |
| 16:17.52 | FJ_Sanchez | What I want to do is to change the version of a package dep |
| 16:17.54 | FJ_Sanchez | Just this |
| 16:18.23 | rudi_s | linduxed: Encrypted LVM should be clear, the whole disk (except /boot) is encrypted, even swap. |
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| 16:18.36 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: which dep? what version do you want to change it to? |
| 16:19.01 | linduxed | rudi_s: is there a downside to it? |
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| 16:19.41 | flourish | dear all, question about temperature. My notebook will be very hot after running for a while. and when execute acpi -V |
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| 16:19.48 | flourish | Thermal 0: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at temperature 120.0 degrees C |
| 16:19.53 | rudi_s | linduxed: It's more complicated to set up if you want different partion sizes (at least the last time I tried to change the sizes it didn't work, I had to create a LVM with my sizes on my own). |
| 16:19.58 | flourish | what can i do |
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| 16:20.22 | rudi_s | And encrypted LVM is a bit slower, but works really fine for me. |
| 16:20.29 | FJ_Sanchez | Argg, forget it |
| 16:20.38 | FJ_Sanchez | It's a very old ubuntu installation |
| 16:20.47 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 16:20.58 | FJ_Sanchez | I don't like #ubuntu channel |
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| 16:21.09 | FJ_Sanchez | Most people want their bluetooth working |
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| 16:21.11 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: perhaps try a ubuntu web forum or mailing list then |
| 16:21.14 | FJ_Sanchez | And similar things |
| 16:21.28 | FJ_Sanchez | I just want to know more about apt system |
| 16:21.44 | FJ_Sanchez | And AFAIK it's at Debian core |
| 16:22.33 | FJ_Sanchez | Just one thing, do you how to change the deps of a given package? |
| 16:22.34 | FJ_Sanchez | Or you have absolubtley no idea? |
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| 16:22.42 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: wrong channel |
| 16:23.03 | FJ_Sanchez | Mmm, ok and then, where can I ask for apt help? |
| 16:23.06 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: #ubuntu |
| 16:23.14 | flourish | can someone help me! my cpu temperature is very high |
| 16:23.24 | flourish | i don't know what to do |
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| 16:23.33 | JPT | mhh |
| 16:23.38 | JPT | 1) check cpu usage |
| 16:23.40 | careta | flourish, what is your cpu? |
| 16:23.42 | JPT | 2) check airflow |
| 16:23.42 | xororand | have you tried cleaning the fans & coolers? |
| 16:23.53 | FJ_Sanchez | Ok stew, I think you should be a bot or a really stupid person |
| 16:23.59 | FJ_Sanchez | Not sure yet... |
| 16:24.00 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: neither |
| 16:24.16 | FJ_Sanchez | Then a really stupid bot, as I supoused from the begining |
| 16:24.18 | craigevil | !tell FJ_Sanchez about Ubuntu |
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| 16:24.57 | FJ_Sanchez | Stop bugging me man! |
| 16:24.58 | FJ_Sanchez | I just want to know more about apt |
| 16:24.59 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: and i would have been able to answer your question, if you had given me the info I was asking for, without the answers to my questions, it would be impossible to accurately help you |
| 16:25.06 | FJ_Sanchez | Forget the f**n Ubuntu! |
| 16:25.10 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: anyway, you are in the wrong chnanel, this channel is only for end-user support of debian |
| 16:25.18 | flourish | careta: AMD Turion(tm) 64 |
| 16:25.22 | FJ_Sanchez | end-user? |
| 16:25.28 | FJ_Sanchez | Ok I get it know |
| 16:25.37 | FJ_Sanchez | I need dev help |
| 16:25.42 | JPT | mhh.. a laptop... |
| 16:25.42 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: yes, users of debian. #ubuntu is the channel for help for users of ubuntu |
| 16:25.49 | CryWolf | I have an older package installed which requires cracklib2. This has since been renamed to libcrack2. While I got the package installed, the dependency now prevents other packages from installing, unless I tell it to ignore dependencies. How do I tell it that libcrack2 is the same as cracklib2, or to ignore that dependency? |
| 16:25.56 | JPT | flourish: verify that your fans are all okay |
| 16:25.57 | FJ_Sanchez | I need debian developer help |
| 16:26.03 | stew | FJ_Sanchez: try #ubuntu-devel |
| 16:26.04 | FJ_Sanchez | No Ubuntu end-end-end-user help |
| 16:26.05 | dimm | who can help newbie with zipl.conf ? |
| 16:26.09 | FJ_Sanchez | That is!! |
| 16:26.11 | FJ_Sanchez | Thank you man |
| 16:26.21 | flourish | JPT: howto? |
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| 16:26.38 | flourish | JPT: I guest this is the problem with my fan |
| 16:26.42 | JPT | hmm |
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| 16:27.04 | JPT | maybe your bios and/or some software allows you to check the fan's rpm |
| 16:27.37 | careta | what are the modifications that debian does to the vanilla kernel? it is only removal of firmware? where can i inspect these modifications? |
| 16:27.52 | mininat | hi ! is anybody know where to find good ressources about wiki programming ? |
| 16:27.53 | flourish | ls -lh /proc/acpi/fan/ total 0 |
| 16:28.06 | JPT | mh |
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| 16:28.10 | JPT | okay... |
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| 16:28.30 | flourish | it seems fan doesn't work on my notebook |
| 16:28.33 | daedhel | my usb external drive stopped being automatically populated in /dev/ . anyone can help ? |
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| 16:31.11 | wildc4rd | afternoon all |
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| 16:33.30 | mederEsite | you know how you can run open a terminal / console infinite times on a GUI desktop? what's the equivalent of that on a non-GUI pure command line server? would I have to resort to other tty's or what? I'm trying to run 2 irc bots basically and each run in their own prompt |
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| 16:33.52 | micols | http://pastebin.com/m7a6b2e26 anyone, why is the "reply ok" nfs packets the only ones that i cannot get mangled to TOS 0x10? |
| 16:34.14 | careta | mederEsite, read "man screen" |
| 16:34.35 | mederEsite | careta: is that what guis use to open multi terminals |
| 16:34.45 | mederEsite | ill read now |
| 16:34.52 | careta | no, but it is like a window manager for the command like |
| 16:34.58 | mederEsite | Oh. |
| 16:35.00 | mederEsite | Wow, sounds useful |
| 16:35.05 | careta | you can do "screen bash" and it will open a bash prompt |
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| 16:35.16 | careta | and you can open as many as you want |
| 16:35.21 | mederEsite | Ic. |
| 16:35.32 | careta | it takes some time to learn, but it is quite useful |
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| 16:41.38 | karlpinc | mederEsite : See the emacs wiki for how to configure screen for use with emacs. |
| 16:42.09 | karlpinc | Anybody have any clues about this bug I just filed? Bug#535093 Apt-cacher is just not working for me. |
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| 16:50.11 | CryWolf | Is it possible to tell apt to install an unmet dependency for an already installed package, so it doesn't prevent other packages from being installed? |
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| 16:51.03 | jair | I wonder if there is a 64bit attclient vpn software for linux, I am trying to get the vpn client i386 and I get an architecture error...on lenny amd64 |
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| 16:52.00 | jair | also I noticed that lenny amd64bit doe not support the intel 82567LM-3 gigabit ethernet adapter :( |
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| 16:52.08 | NetEcho | jair amd64 isn't i386 |
| 16:52.15 | NetEcho | or x86 for that matter |
| 16:52.38 | jair | NetEcho: right but i though the all 32 bit code will run on the 86_64 architecture |
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| 16:53.14 | NetEcho | I'm not 100% sure but I do believe some code has issues |
| 16:53.35 | NetEcho | which would be where your arch error is coming from |
| 16:53.50 | jair | correct |
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| 16:54.22 | nkuttler | CryWolf: apt-get install whatever? |
| 16:54.23 | jair | I may need to contact ATT to see if they have any 64bit code support or if I can use a free software vpn that will connect me the same way att does. |
| 16:54.28 | valan | need multilib for 32 bit on 64 bit |
| 16:54.43 | jair | valan: is that for us? |
| 16:54.47 | jair | or for me? |
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| 16:54.56 | valan | for you |
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| 16:55.20 | jair | valan: what about libs? so to run 32bit code programs I will need to install the 32bit libs? |
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| 16:55.26 | valan | multilib means building 32 bit libs and stuff alongside your 64 bit system so you can still run 32 bit stuff |
| 16:55.29 | valan | yes exactly |
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| 16:56.00 | CryWolf | nkuttler: Yes, that's what I'm trying to do, but it complains about the missing dependency. |
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| 16:56.23 | nkuttler | CryWolf: pastebin error |
| 16:56.35 | jair | valan: let me ask you, I am not too experienced with amd64 in linux, what package contains the 32bit layer libraries in lenny? |
| 16:56.40 | debuz | Hey guys... what tools does debian installer includes that can be used to shrink a ntfs partition? |
| 16:56.50 | valan | nfc i never did multilib on debian |
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| 16:57.12 | jair | valan: hahaha |
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| 16:57.36 | valan | heh i've only done multilib on lfs |
| 16:57.37 | CryWolf | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/m7ab6f140 |
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| 16:58.13 | nkuttler | CryWolf: did you try what the error suggests? |
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| 17:00.04 | debuz | Hey guys... what tools does debian installer includes that can be used to shrink a ntfs partition? |
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| 17:00.27 | CryWolf | nkuttler: Yes. It wanted to uninstall cpm, which I don't want it to do. |
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| 17:01.07 | jvogel | debuz: just use ubuntu live cd |
| 17:01.19 | ranix | dpkg -S pork |
| 17:01.19 | dpkg | Package: pork: Status: install ok installed |
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| 17:01.22 | debuz | jvogel: no blank cds here =D |
| 17:01.29 | debuz | otherwise I'd use gparted |
| 17:02.01 | ranix | debuz: I would back up the data on the partition with ntfstools' ntfsclone |
| 17:02.13 | ranix | debuz: then I would alter the partition table with fdisk |
| 17:02.18 | ranix | debuz: then write the data back |
| 17:02.47 | debuz | ranix: hmmm... it's over 350G of important data to save... I don't know if that's the best option hehehe |
| 17:02.51 | debuz | it's one option tho... |
| 17:03.01 | ranix | debuz: the only unusual caveat when working with ntfs is that the boot partition must be the first primary partition |
| 17:03.10 | ranix | due to the way the nt bootloader works |
| 17:03.28 | ranix | debuz: 350G of important data is important enough to make a copy of |
| 17:03.48 | ranix | trust me, your peace of mind is worth the 4 hours |
| 17:03.50 | debuz | ranix: we do have a copy, but it is on tape... don't want to NEED it, you see hehehe |
| 17:03.57 | ranix | ah ok |
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| 17:04.12 | ranix | debuz: then defrag the drive and just shrink the partition with fdisk |
| 17:04.21 | ranix | make sure it starts on the same block, but end it wherever you want |
| 17:04.39 | debuz | ranix: hmm I did not know fdisk could shrink partitions... |
| 17:04.42 | jair | does anyone uses the att client vpn software on Linux? is there an alternative like openvpn client for example or vpnc? |
| 17:04.43 | debuz | ranix: nice to know |
| 17:04.48 | ranix | 'shrink partition' is a misnomer |
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| 17:04.53 | ranix | you're just altering the partition table |
| 17:04.58 | valan | fdisk doesn't shrink partitions |
| 17:05.10 | valan | it deletes the partition and creates a new one of a different size |
| 17:05.41 | debuz | hmmmm... |
| 17:05.44 | debuz | won't lose any data this way? |
| 17:05.45 | ranix | 'deletes the partition' is also a little bit of a strange way to put it |
| 17:05.50 | valan | depending on the fs and tools used the new partition can either start at the same block or end at the same block |
| 17:06.11 | valan | partitions don't get deleted, but they do get overwritten when you create a new one |
| 17:06.36 | debuz | the strange thing is that vista gives me access denied to shrink inside it with it's native storage manager |
| 17:06.43 | debuz | that makes me a little bit scared to do it on fdisk |
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| 17:08.26 | ranix | debuz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning |
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| 17:09.03 | valan | print (or write or save) a copy of the partition table before you mess with it |
| 17:09.03 | valan | if you save a copy of it, don't save it on the drive you're partitioning! |
| 17:09.06 | debuz | ranix: thanks man, gonna check it out |
| 17:09.12 | debuz | hmmm I c valan |
| 17:09.46 | valan | see you can rewrite your partition table all you want |
| 17:10.04 | valan | nothing actually happens to the data until you create a new fs on the new partition |
| 17:10.21 | debuz | valan: but windows would not work anymore, right? |
| 17:11.52 | valan | not until you resize the fs |
| 17:11.52 | valan | or at least you couldn't expect it to work properly until then |
| 17:11.54 | iluminator101 | How do i download a debian squeeze desktop cd? |
| 17:11.54 | debuz | valan: define "resize the fs"... how would I do that? |
| 17:11.54 | valan | i dunno the specific tool though, i think someone mentioned it earlier |
| 17:11.55 | debuz | valan: I thought that rewriting it to be smaller, it would be resized already |
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| 17:11.55 | valan | rewriting the partition doesn't not change the fs |
| 17:12.01 | valan | oh apparently there is a tool called ntfsresize |
| 17:12.09 | debuz | hum! seems interesting |
| 17:12.14 | debuz | I'll search for it =) |
| 17:12.46 | valan | probably part of the ntfsprogs package |
| 17:13.44 | iluminator101 | Is there way to download debian squeeze desktop straight to the computer without doing netinstall? |
| 17:14.16 | nkuttler | iluminator101: what do you mean? |
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| 17:14.42 | iluminator101 | i want to install from a cd the debian squeeze desktop install |
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| 17:15.29 | nkuttler | iluminator101: hm, not sure how many cds you need for that. /msg dpkg cd contents |
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| 17:16.30 | iluminator101 | Also how do you the bootcd, i couldnt figure it out |
| 17:18.19 | nkuttler | iluminator101: hm? /msg dpkg ig |
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| 17:26.09 | jair | I have this network adapter on my brand new Lenovo Thinkcentre "Intel Corporation 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02)" when I try to install lenny 64bit I the system does not recognize the network adapter, what should I do? I research a little bit and noticed that there is a tar.gz driver on the intel website. |
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| 17:27.17 | justin | jair: didn't we go over this on friday? |
| 17:27.35 | jair | hello justin |
| 17:27.43 | jair | justin: it did not work :( |
| 17:27.49 | justin | and 'it' is? |
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| 17:28.52 | mernil | hi all! |
| 17:28.53 | jair | justin: I downloaded what I thougt was the driver and compiled on a 64bit lenny environmet, created a .deb package transferred to the desktop lenny 64bit install using dpkg and nothing no success. |
| 17:29.08 | justin | jair: did you try the kmuto installer cd like I told you to? |
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| 17:30.14 | jair | justin: nope I haven't but I am checking on that right now |
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| 17:30.33 | jair | justin: what I wanted to understand is how could I install the driver and make the debian system to work. |
| 17:30.54 | justin | jair: generally: build the driver, load the driver |
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| 17:31.30 | jesseboy | what would you guys recommend if I receive this error when doing an apt-get install hprsm |
| 17:31.30 | jesseboy | Building custom cpqci driver |
| 17:31.30 | jesseboy | Failed to rebuild for custom kernel. |
| 17:31.44 | jair | justin: that did not work for me or I did something wrong. But how can I build the driver if I am using netinst to load lenny (very minimal) code =) |
| 17:32.07 | justin | jair: don't use netist? |
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| 17:32.12 | justin | jair: there are other cds and dvds for a reason |
| 17:32.22 | justin | the full cd1 should have everything you need to compile a driver |
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| 17:32.43 | jair | justin: correct, I guess I will have to use other installers with mode packages availables at default |
| 17:33.18 | sylar | these spam never come when you need them :/ |
| 17:33.35 | justin | jair: you dont need to reinstall, just put in the cd and run apt-cdrom |
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| 17:36.02 | Dunge | What kind of speed boost would I get passing from debian etch/arm to debian latest with armel for a Cirrus EP9302 processor (ARM920T with Maverik FPU unit)? My application is not floating-point extensive but use graphical libs who probably are |
| 17:36.48 | jair | justin: on what cd? the kmuto? |
| 17:36.53 | justin | jair: cd1 |
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| 17:37.00 | jair | ohhh |
| 17:37.05 | jair | ok |
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| 17:37.21 | jair | but then I can also try to install using the kmuto? |
| 17:37.25 | mederEsite | should i use useradd or adduser |
| 17:37.54 | justin | jair: you can try whatever you want |
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| 17:46.17 | hochron | can someone help me get an 'export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1' command to work? |
| 17:47.40 | bullgard4 | What sound devices are stored in /dev/snd/ and what sound devices are there not stored? |
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| 18:07.31 | niklas | Hey. I got a machine with 2 disks that just have been booted on disk 2, so that disk 1 isn't in use. However, when i try to change the partition table on disk 1, it says disk is use. What can cause this? |
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| 18:09.01 | karlpinc | niklas: Maybe you're using swap on disk1? |
| 18:09.11 | niklas | checked for that, not in use :/ |
| 18:09.17 | epsilon | does it have any partition already`` |
| 18:09.24 | niklas | yeah some old ones |
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| 18:09.31 | epsilon | maybe it's auto-mounted |
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| 18:09.38 | niklas | i have checked df -h, /proc/mounts and it's not mounted |
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| 18:10.44 | drake_Choson | hello, how to make sure that grub/menu.lst ain't changed by the package manager? |
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| 18:12.42 | cahoot | drake_Choson: eidt /etc/kernel-img.conf |
| 18:12.58 | drake_Choson | instead of menu.lst? |
| 18:13.16 | cahoot | drake_Choson: read /etc/kernel-img.conf |
| 18:14.47 | drake_Choson | cahoot: it seems wrong |
| 18:14.57 | drake_Choson | should I add my entries to that? |
| 18:15.06 | niklas | Beside that, anyone with any information regarding installing Xen 3.4 on Debian? |
| 18:15.37 | krfkeith-i7 | when mounting a device as writable, how do I specify what type of filesystem it is? |
| 18:15.37 | cahoot | drake_Choson: no line like: postinst_hook = update-grub + |
| 18:15.49 | krfkeith-i7 | for instance, my device is fat16 |
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| 18:17.34 | drake_Choson | cahoot: can I just add a sed script after the plus? |
| 18:17.58 | cahoot | drake_Choson: the + was intended to be a ? |
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| 18:18.36 | cahoot | drake_Choson: you said you wanted to disable the automagic update of menu.lst - no? |
| 18:19.28 | drake_Choson | cahoot: yes |
| 18:19.51 | drake_Choson | cahoot: so I just remove the line or comment it out? |
| 18:20.01 | cahoot | comment it out |
| 18:20.13 | drake_Choson | alright |
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| 18:20.26 | drake_Choson | I have to do it to both those hooks or what? |
| 18:20.49 | cahoot | do that |
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| 18:21.34 | drake_Choson | cahoot: ok |
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| 18:22.07 | drake_Choson | it's because it changes the bios hd interface |
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| 18:22.43 | cahoot | sounds more like you want to learn how to config menu.lst |
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| 18:23.02 | cahoot | it's heavily documented |
| 18:23.21 | jblyberg | does anyone know the proper link for the stable netinst CD image? |
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| 18:24.43 | drake_Choson | cahoot: I just changes the root() commands but update-grup changes them to a wrong value |
| 18:24.43 | drake_Choson | changed* |
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| 18:25.18 | adb | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-501-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 18:26.12 | cahoot | drake_Choson: take your time and read menu.lst including comments |
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| 18:26.35 | drake_Choson | cahoot: alright |
| 18:26.49 | p4tr0p1 | hi!!! |
| 18:26.55 | `ns` | debin/testing I run a number of different storage devices on a single usb port, each time I change devices the /dev/sd## changes. Since I do not run a 'desktop manager', is there any way for me to control this so that fstab can will be useful to me for mounting them ? |
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| 18:27.12 | jblyberg | adb: thanks |
| 18:27.18 | adb | np |
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| 18:27.29 | p4tr0p1 | anybody knows what I have to do to Debian Lenny show the "date" like in Etch when listing files "ls -lh" ????? |
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| 18:28.06 | jair | justin: thank you buddy, I think I am good with the information you gave me. This installer will have what I need to get my 64bit debian system going |
| 18:28.08 | p4tr0p1 | ETCH = -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 69 2009-03-25 13:26 tes |
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| 18:28.29 | p4tr0p1 | LENNY = rwxrwxrwt 13 root root 4,0K Jun 29 15:14 tes |
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| 18:28.50 | p4tr0p1 | only "date" field |
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| 18:29.19 | norbert_ | just for the fun of it I ran a # wipe -rf / |
| 18:29.34 | norbert_ | guess at which file it stopped working... place your bets :) |
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| 18:30.28 | jblyberg | adb: was 5.0.2 rescinded? |
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| 18:30.40 | adb | not yet |
| 18:30.56 | exobyte | Is there a way to "move" a block device from one machine to another virtually? say host1 has /dev/hda. I'd like to give host2 direct access to hda over the network |
| 18:31.14 | jblyberg | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ says that 5.0.2 is stable but I don't see it anywhere |
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| 18:32.17 | drake_Choson | cahoot: ok. it seems as I should set the groot option instead |
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| 18:36.31 | p4tr0p1 | ? |
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| 18:41.31 | drake_Choson | why in the world does `less' want to expand filenames after it got started from a shell that does filename-expansion? (Might be a GNU question) |
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| 18:42.02 | justin | drake_Choson: huh? |
| 18:42.23 | drake_Choson | it invokes a shell to do filename-expansion according to manual pages |
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| 18:43.44 | drake_Choson | strange |
| 18:44.06 | justin | drake_Choson: for the 'e' command |
| 18:44.42 | drake_Choson | justin: ok. but it also invoke a shell for something else |
| 18:45.12 | drake_Choson | justing: maybe it does a `cat' on the argv |
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| 18:45.29 | justin | drake_Choson: no, less '/etc/mo*' doesn't open /etc/motd |
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| 18:46.05 | drake_Choson | justin: thats right, just found out. |
| 18:46.13 | enouf | bullgard4: almost all if using ALSA .. if using OSS, not sure, but check out what alsamixer ; then '/' shows you, but also what 'lshal | grep device_file | sort' does |
| 18:46.17 | drake_Choson | justin: but it uses a subshell for something |
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| 18:47.00 | drake_Choson | im in the middle of cooking food. brb |
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| 18:48.32 | enouf | there's a LESSPIPE |
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| 18:48.56 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 18:49.48 | enouf | TrueDD: yo |
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| 18:50.18 | TrueDD | yo enouf |
| 18:50.23 | TrueDD | how are you ? |
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| 18:50.45 | under | Hi. Whaat is the better way to set OpenDNS? |
| 18:51.13 | funky | editing your /etc/resolv.conf ? |
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| 18:52.27 | under | funky, is it enough? I'v readed about bind |
| 18:53.39 | funky | when I want to use opendns, i just comment out these lines in my resolv.conf |
| 18:53.41 | funky | #nameserver 208.67.222.222 |
| 18:53.41 | funky | #nameserver 208.67.220.220 |
| 18:53.44 | funky | that's all |
| 18:53.59 | funky | I guess you could also use as forwarders in your bind |
| 18:54.05 | funky | use them* |
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| 18:54.47 | under | If that strings are commented, how they can be util? |
| 18:55.12 | funky | "comment out" |
| 18:55.14 | nooper | comment out = uncomment |
| 18:55.27 | nooper | ? |
| 18:55.28 | under | ah, ok sorry |
| 18:55.42 | under | I'm not english |
| 18:55.46 | starenka | hi my system failes to boot |
| 18:55.47 | funky | me neither |
| 18:56.03 | starenka | what should i check first (soory for newline - just typo) |
| 18:56.20 | under | So you have studied better than me :) |
| 18:56.20 | nooper | its ok. although i've always used 'comment out' to mean add comment. "That piece of code didn't work, so i commented it out" |
| 18:56.50 | funky | nooper: I'm probably mistaken |
| 18:57.03 | funky | actually I'm pretty sure |
| 18:57.21 | funky | (that I'm mistaken) |
| 18:57.29 | funky | so, you two win :D |
| 18:57.30 | nooper | about being mistaken? |
| 18:57.35 | funky | yes |
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| 18:58.35 | starenka | what should i check when my system failes to boot (i checked syslog, which doesnt have any lines from today, and dmesg seems okay) |
| 18:59.06 | starenka | i haven't done anything invasive, except installin wifi driver (deb-all package) |
| 18:59.13 | funky | how can you see those logs if the system has failed booting ? |
| 18:59.22 | starenka | it faiks to boot even in single user |
| 18:59.51 | starenka | funky: dunno, i'm linux noob, but i presumed there should be some generated during boot |
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| 19:00.13 | funky | what do you see on the screen when it fails ? |
| 19:00.14 | mederEsite | how can i run a service on my server without like, needing to ssh to it basically.. like how apache runs as a daemon, except in this case i want my phenny bot to run by itself, of course ill start it up and stop it |
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| 19:00.29 | bullgard4 | enouf: Very good! The second command is very enlightening (or should I say 'heuristic'?) and confirms what you said and I supposed: /dev/snd/ is a directory for ALSA sound devices. The other sound device files are there for compatibility with (older or other) sound programs. -- Thank you. |
| 19:00.35 | dondelelcaro | !tell mederEsite -about run at startup |
| 19:00.52 | starenka | funky: in normal boot nothing - splash just hangs and than nothing (1 minute), on single user it just writes configuring ntwrk ifaces and hangs |
| 19:01.12 | starenka | i did a sync then and rebooted (after ~45s) |
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| 19:02.27 | funky | splash ? are you using some bootsplash crap ? |
| 19:02.47 | funky | you shouldn't if you want to see something about the error |
| 19:03.06 | starenka | funky:; yes, i was trying to do su mode to disble ii, but it fails to boot too |
| 19:03.30 | p4tr0p1 | nobody |
| 19:03.35 | starenka | funky: i know, but the system was okay, so no need to see geeky symbols ;) |
| 19:03.36 | funky | mount the partition and remove in your grub.conf (menu.lst or whatever) the splash command |
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| 19:03.49 | starenka | oh |
| 19:03.51 | starenka | okay |
| 19:03.51 | mederEsite | dondelelcaro: how does update-rc.d work |
| 19:04.11 | starenka | funky: and than just observe what it writes, rite? |
| 19:04.21 | funky | starenka: if you are using grub, you can edit your grub.conf on the fly |
| 19:04.23 | funky | before booting |
| 19:04.27 | TheOnly | mederEsite, update-rc.d --help |
| 19:04.34 | funky | pressing 'e' once the menu appears |
| 19:04.35 | starenka | funky: oh, yep forget that |
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| 19:04.46 | TheOnly | mederEsite, or: man update-rc.d |
| 19:04.47 | starenka | funky: w/ e? right? |
| 19:04.48 | mederEsite | TheOnly: im staring at the help but i'm still confused. |
| 19:04.52 | funky | yes |
| 19:05.02 | funky | [21:04] < funky> pressing 'e' once the menu appears |
| 19:05.04 | starenka | funky: ok, see ya in a while |
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| 19:06.31 | TheOnly | mederEsite, basically update-rc.d adds symbolic links in the /etc/rcN.d directories to the file in /etc/init.d. when you have just added a new file to /etc/init.d you can do update-rc.d add <filename> defaults |
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| 19:06.47 | TheOnly | mederEsite, this would add symbolic links for the default runlevels |
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| 19:08.18 | TheOnly | mederEsite, you can also specify specific run levels, but in your case I doubt you'll need something more than the defaults. But the script you put in /etc/init.d is what must be done right, because it is the actual file that's going to be run on system startup and shutdown |
| 19:08.52 | enouf | mederEsite: read /etc/init.d/README and /etc/init.d/skeleton if you plan on creating your own script, and /msg dpkg rcconf for some URLs - note using 'defaults' with update-rc.d might make your symlinks at /etc/rc?.d/S20scriptname which might not be the apropos time for it to startup - also note what /etc/default/ is for (configuring system startup daemon usages) |
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| 19:09.19 | drake_Choson | justin: ok. I just made a shell_wrap to see what's hapepning. it's using it for the lesspipe. |
| 19:09.52 | justin | drake_Choson: oh yeah.. of course :) |
| 19:10.03 | drake_Choson | smart enough |
| 19:10.12 | cirzgamanti | hi, any suggestions on a nice + powerful gui to create playlists from a rather huge mp3 collection (for use in mpd) ? |
| 19:10.14 | TheOnly | mederEsite, although the documentation is pretty much all you need to know, you may well need some basic knowledge of bash shell scripting - not necessarily though just read the README and the comments inside /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 19:10.33 | drake_Choson | is says -c /usr/bin/lesspipe on invocation |
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| 19:10.49 | cirzgamanti | i'm currently trying gmpc, which is not too bad on this, but i suppose there are better ones around. |
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| 19:14.30 | froggles | hi |
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| 19:15.17 | froggles | im updating my kernel, yet i got the error --> make[1]: *** [lguest] Error 1 |
| 19:15.32 | froggles | lguest.c:34:18: error: zlib.h: No such file or directory |
| 19:15.42 | froggles | what are all the libraries i need to compile this ? |
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| 19:18.59 | helo | how do i know what files in /usr/src/ i can delete? |
| 19:19.10 | helo | some are from packages, m-a calls, etc |
| 19:19.32 | helo | but it's taking up abot 40% of my root partition |
| 19:19.33 | drake_Choson | depends which source you'll be missing |
| 19:20.25 | ranix | if you're using /usr/src, chances are you're savvy enough to repair anything in there you need anyway |
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| 19:20.52 | ranix | keep linux-headers and linux-kbuild directories where the version matches uname -r |
| 19:21.00 | ranix | and the rest should be safe to go |
| 19:21.03 | FairFight | cant someone guide me through getting pure-ftpd-mysql to work? http://www.howtoforge.com/pureftpd_mysql_virtual_hosting followed this, but my server wont start now!! |
| 19:21.26 | FairFight | my pure-ftpd server* |
| 19:21.27 | froggles | what do i need to compile the kernel |
| 19:21.30 | froggles | E: Couldn't find package zlib |
| 19:21.35 | froggles | make[1]: *** [lguest] Error 1 |
| 19:21.40 | froggles | lguest.c:34:18: error: zlib.h: No such file or directory |
| 19:21.55 | drake_Choson | FairFight: if you have to copy the data directory, first you have to lock the database server |
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| 19:22.02 | enouf | !lguest |
| 19:22.12 | enouf | heh .. mini-KVM :-) |
| 19:22.19 | FairFight | what do you mean drake_Choson? |
| 19:22.27 | acemi | zlib1g-dev |
| 19:22.35 | Lirion | froggles: use aptitude search or apt-cache search. |
| 19:22.35 | drake_Choson | FairFight: that if you aint locking it, curruption can occur |
| 19:22.41 | enouf | froggles: /msg dpkg apt-file |
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| 19:22.56 | froggles | apt-cache search give too much info |
| 19:23.00 | FairFight | what do you mean by data directory? |
| 19:23.04 | drake_Choson | corruption of course |
| 19:23.08 | ranix | froggles: iirc, apt-get build-dep (the thing you're trying to build) |
| 19:23.08 | stew | FairFight: what command are you running that gives you that error? |
| 19:23.10 | stew | err |
| 19:23.11 | Lirion | for compiling and header files, you need -dev at most times |
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| 19:23.15 | Lirion | that kinda narrows it down |
| 19:23.15 | stew | FairFight: ignore that |
| 19:23.19 | FairFight | i will |
| 19:23.19 | drake_Choson | FairFight: in the copy |
| 19:23.21 | ajavid | !ping |
| 19:23.21 | dpkg | Yes, ajavid, you are online. |
| 19:23.22 | stew | froggles: what command are you running that gives you that error? |
| 19:23.28 | ranix | !pong |
| 19:23.28 | dpkg | i heard pong is the best name on IRC eg. /ping pong, or *the* classic video game |
| 19:23.36 | FairFight | I dont think i have copied something drake_Choson? |
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| 19:23.43 | ajavid | weird, 1 machien can't resolv |
| 19:23.46 | drake_Choson | FairFight: isn't that what the ftp is for? |
| 19:23.49 | froggles | stew fakeroot make-kpkg --append_to_version -amd64 --initrd --revision=rev.01 kernel_image modules_image |
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| 19:23.57 | froggles | from http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch09.en.html#_the_kernel |
| 19:23.57 | ajavid | but irssi machine is fine... |
| 19:24.08 | FairFight | drake_Choson: But the ftpd wont start! |
| 19:24.16 | drake_Choson | FirFight: oh! |
| 19:24.18 | drake_Choson | hehehe |
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| 19:24.32 | FairFight | :D |
| 19:24.33 | stew | FairFight: what kernel version are you trying to build? the kernel shouldn't need any external libraries |
| 19:24.35 | enouf | froggles: dpkg -l kernel-package | tail -1 says? |
| 19:24.36 | stew | ugh |
| 19:24.36 | drake_Choson | FairFight: that a completely different thing |
| 19:24.45 | helo | hug |
| 19:24.47 | stew | FairFight: ignore that again, i don't know what is wrong with my tab completion, sorry |
| 19:24.51 | stew | froggles: ignore that again, i don't know what is wrong with my tab completion, sorry |
| 19:24.56 | stew | omg, forget it |
| 19:25.34 | FairFight | lol (: thats okay stew |
| 19:25.34 | FairFight | drake_Choson: Yes it is :> |
| 19:25.34 | enouf | stew: the 'lguest' thing makes me wonder about it's kvm relationship - but whatever |
| 19:25.35 | mederEsite | well so far, i copied the skeleton to /etc/init.d/phenny and tried to run the default skeleton service which i guess does nothing, via "update-rc.d add phenny" but it complains that there's no file by that name. i did something silly, huh? i did not create a .sh file at all, btw. |
| 19:25.35 | drake_Choson | FairFight: try to run it from the command-line |
| 19:25.38 | FairFight | I have, but it just doesnt start :( |
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| 19:25.49 | drake_Choson | FairFight: are you sure? |
| 19:25.51 | MadMoney | I want Apache 1.3. |
| 19:25.51 | stew | froggles: what kernel version are you trying to build? the kernel shouldn't need any external libraries |
| 19:26.01 | froggles | stew 29 |
| 19:26.05 | drake_Choson | FairFight: something --verbose can help |
| 19:26.07 | stew | froggles: what? |
| 19:26.09 | drake_Choson | sometimes* |
| 19:26.12 | acemi | froggles: zlib1g-dev |
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| 19:26.16 | froggles | 2.6.29 |
| 19:26.21 | starenka | funky: heh |
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| 19:26.26 | stew | froggles: where did you get the kernel source from/ |
| 19:26.32 | MadMoney | Apache 1.3 |
| 19:26.39 | MadMoney | I can't find it. |
| 19:26.43 | FairFight | yea, it just goes in that mode where nothing happens, i have to press ctrl+c to get out - i have tried that --verbose drake_Choson - same shit, nothing happens, just comes in that mode and have to press ctrl+c to get out |
| 19:26.48 | MadMoney | apt-get install apache-1.3 |
| 19:26.49 | froggles | acemi: but how did you know that? |
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| 19:26.57 | MadMoney | apt-cache search apache-1.3 :( |
| 19:26.57 | enouf | http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.29/Documentation/lguest/lguest.txt |
| 19:26.58 | starenka | funky: it hangs, because it's obtaining dhcp lease from router, which is kinda lazy, how can i disable thisduring boot? |
| 19:27.05 | froggles | stew aptitude install linux-tree-<version> |
| 19:27.08 | drake_Choson | FairFight: and not listening daemon? |
| 19:27.14 | acemi | I compiled 2.6.29 with this |
| 19:27.19 | froggles | oh ok |
| 19:27.20 | stew | froggles: you should be using linux-source-$version |
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| 19:27.24 | FairFight | nope? Dont think so.. But im noob. |
| 19:27.28 | starenka | funky: also hangs on init of MTA (which i assume is a sendmail or smthng which hangs because of n net connection) |
| 19:27.31 | jair | so did anyone found out how to get the latest version of lenny "5.0.2"? |
| 19:27.38 | mederEsite | ok |
| 19:27.45 | stew | froggles: and for the "how would you know zlib1g-dev" have a look at /msg dpkg apt-file |
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| 19:27.50 | mederEsite | i just did 'update-rc.d phenny defaults 99' instead of add |
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| 19:27.52 | enouf | jair: there's a mail on #debian-cd mailing list about it |
| 19:27.52 | drake_Choson | FairFight: you can see who's listening with the `netstat -l' command |
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| 19:28.10 | froggles | hi |
| 19:28.10 | tarzeau | anyone with a local ultrasparc + debian? |
| 19:28.12 | mederEsite | followed by '/etc/init.d/phenny start' but it says permission denied even though i'm root |
| 19:28.27 | enouf | jair: http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2009/06/msg00052.html |
| 19:28.29 | funky | starenka: you should get a timeout from your dhcp client |
| 19:28.35 | funky | starenka: btw the mta is exim |
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| 19:28.39 | froggles | stew: i was reading chapter 9.7.4 of http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch09.en.html#_the_kernel |
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| 19:28.48 | FairFight | drake_Choson: Nope, nothing on 21/ftp |
| 19:29.03 | drake_Choson | FairFight: sounds really strange |
| 19:29.10 | FairFight | yea :(!! |
| 19:29.15 | MadMoney | apt-cache search apache-1.3 Not working! |
| 19:29.41 | MadMoney | I want Apache-1.341 |
| 19:29.49 | mederEsite | Why |
| 19:30.02 | stew | MadMoney: apache 1.3 is not in the current version of debian, is there a reason you want this instead of apache 2? |
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| 19:30.19 | drake_Choson | FairFight: I don't know anything about debians ftp programs so please ask someone else :-) |
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| 19:30.25 | FairFight | oh :( |
| 19:30.29 | stew | MadMoney: apache 1.341 was never in debian (and never will be) |
| 19:30.32 | MadMoney | stew: Yes there is. |
| 19:30.35 | FairFight | I hate all those strange problems I get in :( |
| 19:30.38 | mederEsite | What is that, MadMoney? |
| 19:30.40 | ranix | froggles: just try installing libz-dev or something and see if it solves your problems |
| 19:30.42 | stew | MadMoney: what is the reason? |
| 19:30.43 | starenka | how can i disable dhcp lease on startup (hangs a comp for a while on wifis) |
| 19:30.44 | FairFight | But thanks for trying drake_Choson |
| 19:30.47 | MadMoney | Apache 2 is breaking my module. |
| 19:30.49 | drake_Choson | np |
| 19:30.53 | stew | MadMoney: which module? |
| 19:31.05 | MadMoney | The one I implemented in C years ago. |
| 19:31.15 | stew | MadMoney: you should fix you module |
| 19:31.15 | mederEsite | heh. |
| 19:31.18 | mederEsite | Yep |
| 19:31.24 | Metalex | someone around having experience with wireshark? |
| 19:31.32 | mederEsite | your module caters to an old ass version of Apache that's outdated |
| 19:31.32 | MadMoney | stew: Not when I can get Apache 1.3. |
| 19:31.37 | starenka | Metalex: what do you need? |
| 19:31.43 | stew | MadMoney: ok |
| 19:31.47 | ranix | !tell froggles -about compile kernel |
| 19:31.49 | MadMoney | Actually, Apache 1.3 is the current major version used in OpenBSD> |
| 19:31.50 | mederEsite | MadMoney: Grab the source file |
| 19:31.56 | mederEsite | From apache.org or whatever |
| 19:31.59 | mederEsite | and good luck |
| 19:32.04 | ranix | !tell froggles -about kernel build deps |
| 19:32.09 | ranix | !tell froggles -about kernel build-deps |
| 19:32.21 | Metalex | starenka: got time for a quick pm? |
| 19:32.21 | stew | MadMoney: apache 1.3 is in oldstable. its not in stable and will no longer be supported in debian beyond security updates for etch |
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| 19:32.47 | MadMoney | stew: So I'll add oldstable to my sources.list, if the mirror has it still. |
| 19:32.52 | starenka | Metalex: np, not sure if i have skills to help ;) |
| 19:33.21 | nkuttler | MadMoney: if you're running current stable you'll probably have to re-build apache1 |
| 19:33.38 | MadMoney | I appreciate your forward-thinking sentiment behind updating my code to work with an httpd of this decade, but I just don't have the time. |
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| 19:33.54 | MadMoney | Ah, I see. Different libc. |
| 19:34.03 | MadMoney | Good point. Better rebuild. |
| 19:34.17 | nkuttler | MadMoney: /msg dpkg ssbp, and s/unstable/oldstable/ i guess |
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| 19:34.49 | MadMoney | Eh, hmm. If I have to rebuild, I might as well just use current Apache and fix my module. |
| 19:34.56 | MadMoney | I'll do that. Thanks. |
| 19:35.15 | drake_Choson | also don't be paranoid. libc has weak symbol support for intelligent symbol resolution |
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| 19:35.27 | stew | MadMoney: you shouldn't have to rebuild. but you should use current Apache and fix your module anyway |
| 19:35.49 | MadMoney | I hope Apache still allows me to read from special/device files in /dev/ |
| 19:35.53 | mederEsite | can someone help me with modifying the do_start function to run ~/.foo ? do i just modify the 'test > /dev/null' part? i dont want to redirect the output to anywhere, just run it as is.. |
| 19:35.53 | mederEsite | http://dpaste.com/61270/ |
| 19:36.10 | MadMoney | I need to communicate with my kernel module through /dev/ |
| 19:36.26 | jair | enouf: thank you, I will check that link |
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| 19:37.29 | drake_Choson | thanks for the help. bye |
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| 19:38.28 | jair | enouf: I go it, I really appreciatte the hard work that team does :) |
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| 19:39.37 | starenka | hi, how to disable dhcp on boot? |
| 19:40.02 | froggles | Module /usr/src/modules/fglrx failed. |
| 19:40.03 | froggles | Hit return to Continue |
| 19:40.04 | froggles | why |
| 19:40.22 | froggles | nm i just saw the dpkg message |
| 19:40.30 | stew | probably becuase it is closed source crap software |
| 19:41.37 | jair | enouf: I have a quick question I am not sure if you will know or will be able to point me to the place where I can find the answer. I have a pretty new Lenovo desktop machine with 8GB memory and I want to use 64bit lenny on it. The network adapter this desktop have is "Intel Corporation 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02)" the current netinst installer did not recognized the card, do you think on this new installer and release will? |
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| 19:49.41 | norbert_ | hi, I'm trying to set up X on a new machine and tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and X -configure, but don't work as I wish, that is, X isn't working; any ideas? |
| 19:49.48 | norbert_ | it's a really old monitor |
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| 19:51.12 | cmyers_work | norbert_: can you give some details beyond "doesn't work"? Are any errors printed out? Does X fail to start? Have you checked the logs? |
| 19:51.18 | adb | dpkg: tell jair about kmuto |
| 19:51.49 | norbert_ | cmyers_work: it says no screens are found - but I don't want to edit xorg.conf by hand |
| 19:51.58 | froggles | stew: i need that closed source crap software to play quake. |
| 19:52.17 | froggles | what, am i supposed to just Not have video card drivers ? |
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| 19:53.55 | stew | froggles: which chipset do you have? are you sure your chipset isn't supported by one of the free drivers like radeon or radeonhd? |
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| 19:54.56 | norbert_ | cmyers_work: I'm used to it asking me about what screens I want (800x600, 1024x768, and so on), but it only asks me about my keyboard and such... any ideas on how to make it ask me more? |
| 19:55.03 | froggles | stew 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780MC [Radeon HD 3100 Graphics] |
| 19:55.15 | norbert_ | I think xf86config did that, but that's no longer on the system these days |
| 19:55.36 | froggles | SB700/SB800 |
| 19:55.45 | stew | froggles: according to "man radeon" that on is already supported by free drivers |
| 19:55.57 | cmyers_work | norbert_: do you know what video card/chipset you have? |
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| 19:56.31 | Vonoff | hi |
| 19:57.05 | Vonoff | anyone using ltsp and could tell me what the binary of the ltsp-controlaula is? |
| 19:57.51 | norbert_ | cmyers_work: yes, a VGA compatible one, Intel Corp. 82865G integrated thingy |
| 19:58.20 | cmyers_work | norbert_: ah, so that probably precludes using the nvidia or ati setup programs |
| 19:58.23 | mederEsite | i think i'm confusing myself here |
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| 19:59.00 | norbert_ | cmyers_work: yeah, it's pretty stone age 'n stuff |
| 19:59.11 | cmyers_work | norbert_: can you post your xorg.conf file? pastebin.com |
| 19:59.18 | mederEsite | in the init.d skeleton file, theres a.. DAEMON = /usr/sbin/$NAME .. im guessing $NAME is the name of the script, so it tries to run /usr/sbin/phenny, if this assumption is correct, i dont have anything in /usr/sbin/phenny.. all i want to do is execute a program in ~/.foo/ named bar |
| 19:59.45 | mederEsite | so would i modify the DAEMON to be that? |
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| 20:00.58 | norbert_ | cmyers_work: I have no X there, so I'd probably have to use that command - what was it again... - but I don't think it's necessary: Screen had nothing but Identifier and Monitor in it, Monitor just Identifier, Device also just Identifier, InputDevice just Driver "mouse" and an Identifier, and the keyboard is the only thing that's properly configured |
| 20:02.22 | cmyers_work | the screen section should have "device" in it also, I think |
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| 20:02.38 | cmyers_work | which lists your video card device name |
| 20:02.40 | norbert_ | probably, but not here :) |
| 20:02.50 | cmyers_work | maybe that is the problem? |
| 20:03.09 | norbert_ | well, that's part of the problem |
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| 20:03.17 | norbert_ | but I don't really want to edit the xorg.conf file by hand |
| 20:03.29 | norbert_ | because there's also the BusID, the BoardName, the VendorName, and so on |
| 20:03.44 | norbert_ | why can't I just run something that will either autodetect or ask me about things? |
| 20:03.50 | norbert_ | I don't want to vi a file |
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| 20:03.55 | norbert_ | it's 2009 |
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| 20:04.12 | norbert_ | I've been using Linux for 12.5 years now and since the beginning of time I've had to do that |
| 20:04.15 | enouf | jair: /msg dpkg installer firmware |
| 20:04.15 | nkuttler | norbert_: xorg is supposed to auto-configure itself. if that doesn't work... edit the file |
| 20:04.23 | cmyers_work | norbert_: usually you can, I am assuming you already tried that and it didn't work which means you have to do it the hard way. |
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| 20:04.48 | frostschutz | norbert_: I wrote my xorg.conf from scratch and would never want a generated one ;) |
| 20:04.49 | elisboa | hi; does anyone know which vnc debian package does the xen server use? |
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| 20:05.13 | cmyers_work | norbert_: are you running modern debian? Which flavor (etch, lenny, squeeze?) and when did you last update? |
| 20:05.20 | froggles | installing the freedriver is too much work. |
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| 20:05.25 | norbert_ | Debian stable, just ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 20:05.40 | cmyers_work | hmmm |
| 20:05.46 | enouf | jair: although i have no idea if that chip is supported in the kernel at all - check places like source, and http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_29 and such |
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| 20:06.20 | norbert_ | I think I will try to apt-get install -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" xserver-xorg |
| 20:06.26 | stew | froggles: it is already installed |
| 20:06.39 | CryWolf | What do I need to do to modify a .deb, to change its dependencies? |
| 20:06.41 | cmyers_work | norbert_: that couldn't hurt. Should put a sane default config there. |
| 20:06.52 | froggles | oh |
| 20:06.52 | cmyers_work | maybe back up your current file first just in case. |
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| 20:07.01 | froggles | im gonna reboot and see if quake wars works. |
| 20:07.04 | adb | norbert_: so you know want what to do, do it ! ` and since the beginning of time I've had to do that` |
| 20:07.38 | cmyers_work | CryWolf: I believe deps are specified in the control files - have you read the new maintainer's guide? |
| 20:08.07 | stew | CryWolf: exactly what dependencies do you want to change, and why? |
| 20:08.16 | enouf | jair: and, were you using the Lenny installer? if necessary, try a Daily snapshot of testing, just to see as well .. ahh .. i guess it is in the mainline kernel http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.29/drivers/net/e1000e/ich8lan.c#L49 |
| 20:08.23 | enouf | jair: since when? no idea |
| 20:08.26 | CryWolf | cmyers_work: I haven't, yet. |
| 20:08.54 | cmyers_work | http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 20:08.57 | CryWolf | stew: I need to change a dependency on cracklib2 to libcrack2. Because it's an old deb, and the library was renamed. |
| 20:09.06 | adb | dpkg: tell norbert_ about etch->lenny |
| 20:09.15 | enouf | jair: note; http://lwn.net/Articles/300202/ try to follow up what's been happening with that |
| 20:09.27 | stew | CryWolf: do you have the source of the package which depends on cracklib2? |
| 20:09.33 | CryWolf | And while I installed it without problems, telling dpkg to ignore the dep, apt-get now refuses to do anything until the dep is resolved. |
| 20:09.49 | nkuttler | CryWolf: still not wanting to apt-get -f install? |
| 20:10.15 | CryWolf | stew: Yes, but getting libcdk4 installed can be problematic. |
| 20:10.24 | CryWolf | nkuttler: I already answered that. I don't want to uninstall this program, which is what 'apt-get -f install' will do. |
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| 20:10.53 | stew | CryWolf: then in the source package, you'd change the Build-Depends in debian/control to point at the newer libcrack2-dev and rebuild the package |
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| 20:11.20 | enouf | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=4a7703582836f55a1cbad0e2c1c6ebbee3f9b3a7 seems to indicate it was fixed last year |
| 20:11.33 | nkuttler | CryWolf: are you mixing different releases? |
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| 20:11.56 | cmyers_work | CryWolf: If you plan to submit a patch to the maintainer and fix the package, that'd be great, but if you are just trying to make it work for you, have you tried using dpkg directly instead of apt? Also, I have found sometimes aptitude fixes dependency problems better than apt. Just some things to try... |
| 20:12.01 | nkuttler | CryWolf: even if apt-get -f install uninstalls something you should be able to install it again later |
| 20:12.03 | adb | dpkg: tell norbert_ about why aptitude |
| 20:12.22 | CryWolf | nkuttler: No, it's an external package. The program was never in a debian release. |
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| 20:12.30 | JyZyXEL | how do you rsync multiple sources? |
| 20:12.34 | JyZyXEL | multiple directories |
| 20:12.44 | CryWolf | I'm sure I can install it again later. And then I'd have to uninstall it to install anything else. |
| 20:12.45 | froggles | stew: i removed the fglrx drivers. After i reboot i dont even get the window manager. just a login prompt |
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| 20:12.59 | stew | froggles: did you login? |
| 20:13.03 | froggles | do i have to configure x to point to the free radeon drivers? |
| 20:13.06 | stew | JyZyXEL: yes |
| 20:13.07 | froggles | stew: as root yes |
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| 20:13.10 | nkuttler | CryWolf: doesn't that external app come with sources? |
| 20:13.18 | JyZyXEL | stew, but how |
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| 20:13.25 | froggles | it's just a terminal |
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| 20:13.31 | stew | froggles: not unless you configured them specifically to point to non-free drivers |
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| 20:13.39 | CryWolf | cmyers_work: Using dpkg directly, I was able to get it to install by telling it to ignore the dependency, giving me the problem I have now. |
| 20:13.44 | stew | JyZyXEL: rsync source1 source2 source3 destination |
| 20:13.49 | froggles | well how do i configure them to point the the free drivers |
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| 20:13.51 | CryWolf | nkuttler: Yes, it does, but installing libcdk4 has proven even more problematic. |
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| 20:14.25 | nkuttler | CryWolf: never heard of that. doesn't seem to be in debian |
| 20:14.32 | stew | froggles: you shoudln't need to, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" would get you a generic conf that doesn't point to any particular driver |
| 20:14.47 | froggles | well how do i make this work. |
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| 20:15.00 | CryWolf | nkuttler: libcdk4 I can install from an older release, but finding actual sources seem impossible. |
| 20:15.14 | stew | froggles: show us your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 20:15.15 | froggles | what do you mean i shouldn't need to. IM in a commandline prompt |
| 20:15.17 | stew | froggles: use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 20:15.20 | froggles | ok |
| 20:15.25 | nkuttler | CryWolf: check if archive.debian.org has sources |
| 20:15.36 | stew | froggles: i mean "you shoudln't need to 'configure them to point the the free drivers'" |
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| 20:16.35 | ajavid | firefox 3.5 in lenny anyoen? |
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| 20:16.45 | vimpulse | ajavid: is it? |
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| 20:17.03 | nkuttler | ajavid: unlikely |
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| 20:17.11 | Nationiante | How can't I download Debian? |
| 20:17.16 | nkuttler | is 3.5 even released yet? |
| 20:17.20 | ajavid | no but I'm gonna build it, I can't find/download an amd64 build (apart from 3.6alpha/pre nightly) |
| 20:17.23 | vimpulse | Nationiante: hi. What language do you speak? |
| 20:17.26 | nkuttler | Nationiante: getting 404s on debian.org? |
| 20:17.37 | ajavid | ahh screw it, I'll use nightly svn trunk |
| 20:17.41 | Nationiante | vimpulse: Finnish as 1st language adn English |
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| 20:18.12 | Nationiante | nkuttler: yep |
| 20:18.14 | vimpulse | Nationiante: you only spoke one line, but you made a grammar error in it :) Did you know Debian has a Finnish channel? |
| 20:18.18 | CryWolf | and now around the wheel we go, where we stop, no one knows |
| 20:18.18 | vimpulse | !fi |
| 20:18.18 | dpkg | hmm... fi is Finland, or the end of an if block, or an abreviation for First-In....as in FIFO First In First Out, or /join #debian-fi |
| 20:18.22 | ZitZ | i have a strange samba problem, whenever i try to browse MSHOME I get a password prompt, I never set a password |
| 20:18.34 | nkuttler | Nationiante: looks like 502 isn't on the mirrors yet, replace 5.0.2 with 5.0.1 etc |
| 20:18.38 | Nationiante | vimpulse: debian-fi ? |
| 20:18.42 | vimpulse | Nationiante: yes. |
| 20:18.46 | Nationiante | vimpulse thanks |
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| 20:18.57 | vimpulse | Nationiante: if they don't help you, of course ask again here. |
| 20:18.59 | Nationiante | vimpulse, there is no such a channel |
| 20:19.08 | vimpulse | Nationiante: maybe it is on irc.oftc.net. Let me check. |
| 20:19.12 | Nationiante | hmm |
| 20:19.16 | ajavid | http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ |
| 20:19.28 | froggles | stew: driver is still set to ---> Driver "fglrx" |
| 20:19.32 | vimpulse | Nationiante: yes, it is. |
| 20:19.41 | Nationiante | vimpulse: thankx |
| 20:19.46 | ajavid | firefox-3.6a1pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 I guess I'll just use this... I wonder why they never make available amd64 builds more publically |
| 20:19.46 | vimpulse | Nationiante: welx. |
| 20:19.49 | ajavid | or soemthing |
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| 20:19.54 | ajavid | always have to hunt that down |
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| 20:20.09 | vimpulse | ajavid: please consider the 32-bit version instead; it works with more plugins. |
| 20:20.17 | stew | froggles: you should either change that to be "radeon" or "radeonhd" or run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to get a generic configuration that doesn't point to a specific driver |
| 20:20.34 | ajavid | vimpulse, thank you for your advice. I am not using 32bit plugins |
| 20:20.35 | dbbolton | i am looking for a qt4 mail notification application that operates in the kde4 system tray. any suggestions? |
| 20:20.37 | vimpulse | dear all -- I can't kill -9 firefox-bin. ps aux says "Sl". strace says "futex(0xadc15190, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 3, NULL" and never finishes. I don't want to start up a second Firefox, since that would be confusing when I Alt-Tab within KDE. What can I do? |
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| 20:21.01 | nkuttler | dbbolton: doesn't their kmail app do that? |
| 20:21.07 | ajavid | vimpulse, I don't use java or what not, even silverlight works in lenny firefox amd64 build and what not |
| 20:21.09 | CryWolf | apt gets unhappy really fast as soon as you deviate at all from the norm. |
| 20:21.18 | ajavid | vimpulse, I only use flash for youtube etc. and no other plugins |
| 20:21.26 | ajavid | vimpulse, there is a 64bit flash now so its ok |
| 20:21.28 | froggles | stew why would i want a generic configuration that doesent point to a specific driver? |
| 20:21.29 | nkuttler | CryWolf: you're not supposed to mix old packages etc |
| 20:21.31 | dbbolton | nkuttler i have kmail installed, and have run it, but it doesn't seem to provide atray icon |
| 20:21.42 | froggles | what program configures the xorg file to work withthe radeon driver |
| 20:21.45 | ajavid | dbbolton, i think it does |
| 20:21.54 | stew | froggles: becuase right now you have a specific driver which is the wrong driver |
| 20:21.54 | nkuttler | froggles: /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 20:21.55 | CryWolf | nkuttler: I don't have much choice in this case. |
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| 20:22.19 | dbbolton | ajavid if so, how would i enable it? |
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| 20:22.49 | ajavid | dbbolton, Kmail -> Settings -> Appearance -> LAST TAB = systray (check enable it) |
| 20:23.15 | nkuttler | CryWolf: http://archive.debian.net/uk/source/woody/i386/libcdk |
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| 20:23.30 | froggles | is radeonhd better than radeon |
| 20:24.13 | stew | froggles: better in what respect? |
| 20:24.14 | dbbolton | ajavid is it possible that the tabs would be in a different order in another language? i don't see a tray option under the last tab |
| 20:24.26 | Nationiante | Where can I download DEbian 5.02? |
| 20:24.36 | ajavid | dbbolton, kde4 kmail? |
| 20:24.38 | froggles | well i got KDE back, but now quake wont even launch |
| 20:24.46 | ajavid | dbbolton, or kde3? I only use kde3, and I'm looking at it |
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| 20:24.56 | dbbolton | ajavid 4 |
| 20:24.59 | cmyers_work | Nationiante: debian.org? |
| 20:25.00 | ajavid | #kde |
| 20:25.06 | ajavid | dbbolton, go there |
| 20:25.07 | nkuttler | Nationiante: looks like 502 isn't on the mirrors yet, replace 5.0.2 with 5.0.1 etc |
| 20:25.13 | vimpulse | Nationiante: see what <nkuttler> said at 20:18 |
| 20:25.15 | Nationiante | cmyers_work: I get "404 Error" |
| 20:25.28 | Nationiante | vimpulse: How could I see what he has said? |
| 20:26.00 | vimpulse | Nationiante: use your scroll bar to scroll up :) |
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| 20:26.38 | norbert_ | by the way, I changed it to the "vesa" driver and that worked out |
| 20:26.39 | Nationiante | vimpulse: I can't see messages before I came here (and it was over 22:00) |
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| 20:27.02 | nkuttler | Nationiante: ... i just repeated it |
| 20:27.22 | froggles | stew: i dont think 3D Rendering is working. I can play DVD but can't get 3D games to work. |
| 20:27.25 | Nationiante | nkuttler: You mean there's no more mirrors? |
| 20:27.26 | ajavid | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20090629 Minefield/3.6a1pre what is minefield? |
| 20:27.27 | vimpulse | Nationiante: oops, I meant 22:18 in your time zone :) but anyway, he repeated it now. |
| 20:27.36 | nkuttler | Nationiante: no |
| 20:27.39 | froggles | it worked witht he fglrx driver. how do i make it work with radeon |
| 20:27.39 | ajavid | what happened to firefox? I guess 3.65 is called minedfield |
| 20:27.50 | Nationiante | nkuttler: What then (Could you repeat once again, please) |
| 20:27.56 | nkuttler | ajavid: minefield is their dev version |
| 20:27.59 | Nationiante | vimpulse: Well that's what I thought |
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| 20:28.15 | enouf | ajavid: i think it's called something else .. but |
| 20:28.29 | nkuttler | Nationiante: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-501-i386-businesscard.iso |
| 20:28.31 | vimpulse | nkuttler: by the way, most people don't like to repeat 3 times :) |
| 20:28.34 | vimpulse | oops |
| 20:28.36 | enouf | maybe it's 3.x.x |
| 20:28.39 | vimpulse | Nationiante: by the way, most people don't like to repeat 3 times :) |
| 20:28.49 | froggles | err 3D acceleration |
| 20:28.56 | Nationiante | vimpulse: okay then, can I update from 5.01 to 5.02 when i have installt? |
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| 20:29.06 | nkuttler | Nationiante: yes |
| 20:29.14 | Nationiante | nkuttler: okay thanks |
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| 20:29.42 | nkuttler | Nationiante: you may want the netinst though, that was the link to the business card thing |
| 20:29.53 | nkuttler | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-501-i386-netinst.iso |
| 20:30.06 | Nationiante | nkuttler: Well, last time I installed Debian, I couldn't start it because I could use only the command line |
| 20:30.22 | nkuttler | Nationiante: what do you mean? |
| 20:30.22 | jair | enouf: thank you so much for the information and links =) |
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| 20:30.24 | enouf | start it? |
| 20:30.29 | enouf | jair: ;-) |
| 20:30.42 | jair | adb: Thank you again for that link i will check if I can run one of those installers |
| 20:30.46 | Nationiante | nkuttler: I mean, I installed Debian, and tried to boot it |
| 20:30.59 | Nationiante | nkuttler: And then I was not able to use it becuase the resolution was too high :/ |
| 20:31.04 | vimpulse | repeat: dear all -- I can't kill -9 firefox-bin. ps aux says "Sl". strace says "futex(0xadc15190, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 3, NULL" and never finishes. I don't want to start up a second Firefox, since that would be confusing when I Alt-Tab within KDE. 1. What can I do? 2. Should I reboot? 3. Was my question unclear? |
| 20:31.24 | nkuttler | Nationiante: why didn't you change the resolution? |
| 20:31.31 | Nationiante | nkuttler: How can I do that? |
| 20:31.37 | enouf | vimpulse: if you can;t kill it, it's likely owned via init at this point |
| 20:31.48 | nkuttler | Nationiante: xrandr, /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 20:32.01 | ajavid | hah |
| 20:32.08 | nkuttler | Nationiante: xrandr -s 800x600 |
| 20:32.08 | ajavid | no wonder I can't isntall shit |
| 20:32.08 | enouf | vimpulse: you could restart your kde session only, see if that helps |
| 20:32.10 | ajavid | Minefield/3.6a1pre <- stupid useragent |
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| 20:32.24 | Nationiante | nkuttler: I think I could just set up 1280x1024 instead of 800x600? |
| 20:32.31 | ajavid | cool, firefox 3.6 is awesome! |
| 20:32.47 | nkuttler | Nationiante: probably |
| 20:32.48 | enouf | vimpulse: does pstree.x11 show firefox-bin ? |
| 20:32.55 | vimpulse | enouf: it is owned by ksmserver |
| 20:32.58 | Nationiante | nkuttler: Thanks, I'm downloading the netinst |
| 20:32.58 | enouf | vimpulse: if not some fool ran it as root |
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| 20:33.09 | enouf | vimpulse: kill kdecrap |
| 20:33.14 | vimpulse | enouf: i ran it, and not as root :) kill what? |
| 20:33.34 | enouf | vimpulse: just restart the session normally |
| 20:33.36 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.42 | norbert_ | cmyers_work: changed it from intel (i810) to vesa and that worked out; thanks for trying to help a while back; gotta go now |
| 20:34.08 | froggles | well radeonhd didn't work. it put me back to the login prompt with no window manager. so i guess radeon is better. |
| 20:34.09 | enouf | ksmserver --help is not very helpful .. but ok |
| 20:34.16 | froggles | how do i make 3D Acceleration work? |
| 20:34.22 | Nationiante | nkuttler: btw, can I use WLAN conection with Netinstall? |
| 20:34.26 | froggles | the reason i got a radeon card is for 3D Stuf |
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| 20:34.30 | enouf | froggles: radeonhd is wrong for that card AFIACT |
| 20:34.36 | froggles | ohok |
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| 20:34.57 | enouf | froggles: man radeon, find x600 |
| 20:35.00 | vimpulse | enouf: it was started by kde autostart, as i wished. enouf, adb: Never mind, I killed it. Let me investigate more then report. |
| 20:35.19 | froggles | ok |
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| 20:35.23 | enouf | vimpulse: i understand, but kde is a mess .. to say the least |
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| 20:36.09 | enouf | vimpulse: you have an entry in ~/.kde/Autostart for it i guess? |
| 20:36.15 | vimpulse | enouf: yes. |
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| 20:36.29 | starenka | wha thsould i do, when a power failrure happened during opackage install and apt-get keeps complainin on failed install (cant add/remove packages)? i did solve postgress error, but stuck w/ last one - xmail :( |
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| 20:36.58 | vimpulse | starenka: what did apt-get recommend that you should do? |
| 20:37.04 | froggles | enouf: the only line that had X600 ---> RV380 Radeon X600, M24 |
| 20:37.12 | enouf | froggles: bingo |
| 20:37.14 | froggles | what do i do with that info |
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| 20:37.26 | enouf | froggles: it means it's supported |
| 20:37.33 | nkuttler | starenka: dpkg --configure -a |
| 20:37.35 | enouf | how well? not sure |
| 20:37.58 | nkuttler | Nationiante: if the NIC is supported by the kernel. i prefer cables. |
| 20:38.02 | froggles | enouf: well why isn't quake wars starting ? |
| 20:38.03 | enouf | starenka: or 'apt-get -f install' |
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| 20:38.23 | starenka | nkuttler: vimpulse http://openpaste.org/en/15336/ |
| 20:38.31 | enouf | froggles: how the heck should i know? does your xorg,conf say fglrx under driver? |
| 20:38.33 | froggles | i need 3D Acceleration, no ? |
| 20:38.38 | enouf | what about dri and drm modules? |
| 20:38.41 | froggles | no it says radeon |
| 20:38.46 | starenka | enouf: still the same as w/ above |
| 20:38.48 | enouf | froggles: see #radeon |
| 20:38.52 | nkuttler | starenka: fix the postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 20:39.01 | froggles | this is worse than the fglrx driver. |
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| 20:39.15 | starenka | nkuttler: thx |
| 20:39.17 | stew | the one that doesn't compile? |
| 20:39.33 | enouf | fglrx will always be atleast one step ahead - it's their coveted tech that they'll never release docs for |
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| 20:39.46 | stew | froggles: is the radeon kernel module loaded? |
| 20:40.06 | froggles | no |
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| 20:40.07 | stew | froggles: can you pastebin your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log? |
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| 20:40.40 | stew | froggles: you can't possibly get 3d with the radeon driver if the radeon kernel module isn't loaded |
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| 20:41.20 | froggles | there is no command modprobe |
| 20:41.21 | starenka_ | nkuttler: the postinstall one? |
| 20:41.23 | froggles | nor is it in the repos |
| 20:41.28 | enouf | ... |
| 20:41.32 | stew | froggles: sure there is |
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| 20:41.44 | debuz | Hi guys. I've just installed debian 5.1 on my desktop but X appears all wrong... where can I get "wizard" of xorg? I've used it some time ago |
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| 20:41.53 | debuz | Now I can't find it again.. there is no such package hehe |
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| 20:41.58 | enouf | debuz: no longeer the case |
| 20:42.05 | enouf | debuz: see /msg dpkg xrandr |
| 20:42.06 | vimpulse | adb: enouf: It looks like Emacs eshell's built in kill command (in esh-proc.el) never works for me. /bin/kill always works. Odd. So adb, thank you for your killall suggestion: it inspired me to /bin/kill it :) Enouf, thanks for your help too. |
| 20:42.12 | vimpulse | debuz: which wizard? |
| 20:42.15 | debuz | thanks enouf |
| 20:42.20 | froggles | my bad, wasnt root |
| 20:42.20 | stew | debuz: there is no such wizard. can you be more specific than "appears all wrong"? |
| 20:42.23 | enouf | debuz: /msg dpkg drxx (for the details) |
| 20:42.39 | debuz | stew: yeah, it appears just on the left |
| 20:42.39 | debuz | and my monitor has no range for it |
| 20:42.43 | debuz | I see only a thin line of the X |
| 20:42.53 | enouf | vimpulse: i use pkill a lot ;-) |
| 20:43.37 | enouf | vimpulse: pkill firefox-bin |
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| 20:43.37 | enouf | debuz: set your Vert/Hor refresh rate ranges |
| 20:43.37 | enouf | in your xorg.conf |
| 20:43.41 | debuz | enouf: thx =) |
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| 20:43.52 | froggles | enouf; i ran modprobe radeon. it's loaded. still no 3D Acceleration http://pastebin.com/m79eac7fa |
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| 20:43.57 | enouf | or use cvt to find out a modesetting you could use |
| 20:44.10 | debuz | cvt? |
| 20:44.11 | enouf | froggles: do what stew asked |
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| 20:44.16 | enouf | debuz: man cvt |
| 20:44.28 | debuz | thx =) |
| 20:44.46 | enouf | debuz: the Vert/Hoz ranges go in Section Monitor |
| 20:44.54 | froggles | what package has glxinfo ? |
| 20:45.00 | stew | froggles: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 20:45.04 | enouf | mesa-utils? |
| 20:45.06 | debuz | thanks enouf =) |
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| 20:45.59 | anddam | how can I check if my user has access to usbfs? |
| 20:46.00 | vimpulse | froggles: or, if you're in a hurry, try a google search for [ debian glxinfo ] . It is not as good as apt-file, but it sometimes works. |
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| 20:46.26 | froggles | im apt-getting apt-file now |
| 20:46.53 | vimpulse | debuz: by the way does your monitor have an Auto Adjust button? some LCDs do. it's worth a try. |
| 20:46.54 | debuz | enouf: xorg.conf is empty o_O |
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| 20:47.02 | debuz | vimpulse: yes, but it does not fix it =( |
| 20:47.06 | Canar | hi, i'm trying to access the daily netboot builds that were once available at people.debian.org/~joeyh |
| 20:47.10 | Canar | is there some other mirror for them? |
| 20:47.16 | enouf | debuz: the factoids told you to X -configure to generate a minimal one |
| 20:47.21 | Canar | i need i386 arch |
| 20:47.25 | debuz | aaah ok... thanks enouf |
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| 20:47.45 | enouf | debuz: then man xorg.conf and man <intel,radeon,nv, whatever> |
| 20:47.47 | vimpulse | Canar: hi, when we are busy, please try not to press Enter in mid-paragraph :) I don't know. Anyone? |
| 20:48.10 | debuz | thanks ;))) |
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| 20:48.43 | Canar | vimpulse: Peculiar IRC custom, but understandable... Sorry, this is the first time I've heard of such a thing. |
| 20:49.10 | enouf | !netbootg |
| 20:49.12 | enouf | !netboot |
| 20:49.12 | dpkg | [netboot] a Debian installation method involving the use of TFTP and DHCP (or BOOTP, RARP) servers, to provide installation media to clients on a local network. Not recommended for novice users, ask me about <netinst> instead. See also <install guide>, <netboot miniiso>, <installer firmware>. |
| 20:49.18 | anddam | is there a default gid for usb users? |
| 20:49.21 | vimpulse | Canar: no worries. |
| 20:49.28 | enouf | anddam: plugdev |
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| 20:50.25 | enouf | anddam: if the FSType on the disks are ntfs, consider ntfs-3g and FUSE for rw capabilities |
| 20:50.40 | enouf | anddam: /msg dpkg pmount (as well) |
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| 20:51.25 | enouf | anddam: /msg dpkg groups (while you're at it) |
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| 20:52.26 | anddam | enouf: it's not an usb disk |
| 20:52.31 | anddam | enouf: it's a cell phone |
| 20:53.10 | enouf | it's still a usb removable .. but i dunno |
| 20:53.10 | anddam | enouf: this is my issue http://i44.tinypic.com/33dv8f4.jpg |
| 20:53.30 | gothenburg | Windows |
| 20:53.32 | enouf | maybe /dev/ttyUSB0 or ASM0 or something |
| 20:53.34 | anddam | the usb device is shown in Vbox filter but not the guest os |
| 20:53.39 | eyeris | I have a debian installation running under user-mode-linux. I've enabled ACLs, but setfacl still gives me the Operation Not Supported error: http://pastebin.ca/1478776 |
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| 20:53.56 | enouf | anddam: you have the virtualbox-ose-guest pkg? |
| 20:54.03 | anddam | the point is the only software to manage this phone runs in win |
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| 20:54.06 | enouf | or whatever it is |
| 20:54.13 | enouf | use WINE? |
| 20:54.13 | anddam | enouf: I don't, I think but I installed GUest Additions |
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| 20:54.20 | enouf | !vbox |
| 20:54.21 | dpkg | i guess virtualbox is a virtual machine solution. VirtualBox Open Source Edition (OSE) is available for Lenny and as a backport for Etch. Ask me about <vbox-install lenny>, <vbox-install etch>, <vbox-install squeeze>. http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ http://www.virtualbox.org/ #vbox on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 20:54.30 | anddam | enouf: you can't install drivers with wine, afair |
| 20:54.33 | anddam | afaik* |
| 20:54.43 | froggles | /var/log/Xorg.0.log says ---> |
| 20:54.44 | enouf | huh? |
| 20:54.47 | JPT | wine can just run windows software |
| 20:54.49 | froggles | (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering not officially supported on RN50/RC410/R600 |
| 20:54.50 | froggles | (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled |
| 20:54.52 | anddam | Vbox is my best chance |
| 20:54.53 | enouf | how does anything work anddam ? |
| 20:54.56 | JPT | the linux kernel has to do the hardware stuff |
| 20:54.56 | froggles | this driver sucks. |
| 20:55.09 | anddam | enouf: "anything"? |
| 20:55.31 | anddam | that's a too wide question |
| 20:55.32 | froggles | stew: this driver sucks. |
| 20:55.33 | froggles | (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering not officially supported on RN50/RC410/R600 |
| 20:55.33 | froggles | (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled |
| 20:55.34 | enouf | froggles: you just might need to tweak xorg.conf and comment out 'dri' lines under modules or something |
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| 20:56.05 | Kuifje111 | hello all. |
| 20:56.10 | froggles | you mean there's no programs to configure xorg.conf for me? |
| 20:56.11 | enouf | froggles: i told you - see #radeon for details, the r5xx work pretty well |
| 20:56.11 | Kuifje111 | is it possible to allow characters such as $ in echo "test, blah $" |
| 20:56.13 | Kuifje111 | ? |
| 20:56.31 | wizl | on which language? |
| 20:56.40 | JPT | just escape them with backslashes |
| 20:56.52 | Kuifje111 | ok, thanks |
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| 20:57.04 | _KaszpiR_ | hi |
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| 20:57.18 | debuz | enouf: I'm still doing something wrong |
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| 20:57.34 | debuz | I've added the line on the Monitor Section... it opens the same, all on the left, can't see a thing =] |
| 20:57.38 | Kuifje111 | oh and another question |
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| 20:57.47 | _KaszpiR_ | quiestion: i got midning commander running, lenny, when i press ctrl+o it shows the subshell, then when i press up/down arrows it shows the command history |
| 20:57.50 | anddam | enouf: the point is the phone manager needs 4 drivers, a virtual com, an usb-to-serial converter and so. Lot of crap |
| 20:57.51 | Kuifje111 | how to allow quotation marks in echo? |
| 20:57.57 | debuz | enouf: isnt there something to download to make this easier? :) |
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| 20:58.13 | _KaszpiR_ | the poblem is, that the histor contains 'echo' and other control code chars, and actual history command is useless - how to avoid this? |
| 20:58.16 | anddam | I have to logout |
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| 20:58.26 | enouf | debuz: lspci -nn | grep VGA |
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| 20:59.05 | debuz | enouf: Geforce 6150SE nForce 430 |
| 20:59.08 | enouf | debuz: wiki.x.org should have examples as well as the URLs listed in /msg dpkg dual monitors |
| 20:59.16 | pherthyl | for some reason I can't access debian-multimedia.org.. just comes back as address not found |
| 20:59.29 | enouf | debuz: so, using the 'nv' driver? |
| 20:59.31 | pherthyl | but it works fine if I reboot into windows, on the same connection |
| 20:59.37 | debuz | enouf: I am using the nv driver |
| 20:59.43 | pherthyl | anyone know what I can check to figure out what could be causing that? |
| 20:59.43 | debuz | well, at least I've installed it with aptitude |
| 20:59.46 | enouf | debuz: grep drv /var/log/Xorg/0/log | xargs |
| 20:59.52 | enouf | debuz: grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log | xargs |
| 20:59.56 | pherthyl | seems to be nothing much in the hosts file... |
| 21:00.18 | debuz | enouf: yeah, nv_drv.so =) |
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| 21:00.37 | enouf | debuz: so man nv, tweak accordingly |
| 21:00.43 | debuz | ok, thank you enouf |
| 21:01.01 | enouf | debuz: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] works here |
| 21:01.16 | debuz | hmmm I'll try that |
| 21:01.17 | debuz | ;) |
| 21:01.42 | enouf | debuz: and that's NOT lspci -nn output |
| 21:01.48 | Free5 | sry newb here, but i see a lot of command examples use the term bar? what is bar? |
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| 21:02.06 | debuz | enouf: what do you mean? |
| 21:02.18 | enouf | Free5: bar is fooB |
| 21:02.41 | enouf | Free5: soo fooA == var1, bar == var2, baz == var3 |
| 21:02.57 | enouf | er s/fooA/foo |
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| 21:03.11 | enouf | 16:47 < enouf> debuz: lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 21:03.12 | enouf | 16:48 < debuz> enouf: Geforce 6150SE nForce 43 |
| 21:03.16 | enouf | == fail debuz |
| 21:03.57 | Free5 | enouf, thanks. |
| 21:05.15 | enouf | Free5: basically the way x y and z are used |
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| 21:05.32 | enouf | (in algebraic stuffs and such) |
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| 21:05.58 | debuz | enouf: yeah, I re-wrote it from the results |
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| 21:06.05 | debuz | afraid to exec -o output here =) |
| 21:06.11 | enouf | debuz: very incomplete |
| 21:06.20 | enouf | one line is ok |
| 21:06.28 | debuz | ok, then, ... |
| 21:06.33 | debuz | 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 [10de:03d0] (rev a2) |
| 21:06.53 | Mariusika | does someone know how to fix pidgin messenge? Can connect to internet? |
| 21:06.53 | enouf | judd: pciid 10de:03d0 |
| 21:06.54 | judd | enouf: [10de:03d0] is 'C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430]' from 'nVidia Corporation' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:03d0 |
| 21:06.55 | Mariusika | 10x |
| 21:07.02 | enouf | ouch |
| 21:07.33 | enouf | Mariusika: maybe http://www.celticwolf.com/useful-information/faqs/26-pidgin-yahoo |
| 21:07.54 | debuz | yeah =/ |
| 21:08.13 | MadMoney | Okay, this isn't good. I noticed that when I run 'reboot', the computer shuts down properly, gets to the boot loader (GRUB), but then the kernel either freezes up (before DMESG stuff), or it kernel panics. If I shut my computer completely off and then reboot, everything is okay. |
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| 21:08.56 | MadMoney | Now it won't turn back on! |
| 21:09.11 | MadMoney | I keep pressing the power button, and the laptop won't turn on. :( |
| 21:09.22 | debuz | enouf: before debian, gentoo was installed on this machine and runnign perfectly =/ |
| 21:09.25 | MadMoney | I'll have to remove the battery and put it back in... |
| 21:09.34 | _KaszpiR_ | HP? |
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| 21:09.42 | MadMoney | Wow, my laptop hates not having XP Home. |
| 21:09.45 | enouf | Mariusika: sounds like your RAM isn't clearing on reboot .. or shutting down properly (perhaps you toyed with the rcS,0,6 scripts or /etc/inittab ?) |
| 21:09.53 | MadMoney | Dell |
| 21:10.00 | _KaszpiR_ | try passing acpi=off noacpi o kernel |
| 21:10.02 | _KaszpiR_ | AFAIR |
| 21:10.31 | Mariusika | enouf: what ? |
| 21:10.35 | enouf | MadMoney: try going into BIOS and look to disable QuickBoot/FastBoot/Splash/OEM screen crap |
| 21:10.45 | enouf | Mariusika: bad tab |
| 21:11.01 | Mariusika | enouf: :) |
| 21:11.25 | MadMoney | I put the battery back in, and it still won't turn on. |
| 21:11.26 | enouf | debuz: just needs some tweaking ;-) |
| 21:11.36 | debuz | enouf: which I don't know how to do =( hehe |
| 21:12.40 | debuz | enouf: is it about reading "man nv" and configuring xorg.conf accordingly? |
| 21:12.40 | enouf | i told you where to find plenty of info and examples even |
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| 21:12.41 | Mariusika | for those of u in europe http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9134914 |
| 21:12.41 | MadMoney | Okay, time to take it apart and reseat the CMOS battery. That fixed it last time. |
| 21:12.42 | enouf | MadMoney: yeah, replace it while in there |
| 21:13.03 | debuz | enouf: is there any soft that can help me on tweaking? |
| 21:13.10 | JPT | i wonder what happens if you really do that... but i already paid 50 euro on a bad bios... so i won't try |
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| 21:13.28 | enouf | MadMoney: check if the BIOS clock is maintaining the time across the rebooting phases - enter BIOS setup right away after reboot - try 'shutdown -r now' instead of reboot |
| 21:13.28 | JPT | *spent |
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| 21:14.06 | seria-mau | someone playing alien arena 2009 here? i can't get it working on squeeze -> segfault |
| 21:14.51 | enouf | debuz: not really .. it's supposed to autoconfigure - check bugs.debian.org perhaps - if you want, play with the nvidia 3d driver, /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 21:15.04 | debuz | hmmm ok, thanks enouf |
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| 21:15.15 | debuz | basically, I'm lost =) |
| 21:15.17 | debuz | Don't know what to do... |
| 21:15.20 | TiMiDo | IPv6 support must be enabled in the kernel for radvd to work how can i do this? |
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| 21:15.47 | enouf | debuz: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1478803 here's mine., as a sort of guide ONLY |
| 21:16.15 | debuz | ok, thanks |
| 21:16.18 | cmyers_work | TiMiDo: is there a reason you think it isn't enabled? I would be really surprised if it isn't enabled by default |
| 21:16.28 | froggles | if told to upgrade x to 1.5 is that xserver-xorg ? |
| 21:16.40 | froggles | or xorg |
| 21:16.48 | enouf | debuz: all lines with # are commented out, not processed |
| 21:17.07 | TiMiDo | cmyers_work, nope is not |
| 21:17.09 | enouf | froggles: probably |
| 21:17.11 | debuz | enouf: hehe that I know ;) |
| 21:17.17 | valdyn | TiMiDo: use a debian kernel |
| 21:17.19 | enouf | judd: versions xorg |
| 21:17.19 | judd | enouf: xorg -- etch: 1:7.1.0-19 lenny: 1:7.3+18 squeeze: 1:7.3+19 sid: 1:7.4+3 |
| 21:17.35 | enouf | judd: versions xorg-xserver |
| 21:17.35 | judd | enouf: xorg-xserver -- |
| 21:17.56 | enouf | judd: versions xserver-xorg |
| 21:17.56 | judd | enouf: xserver-xorg -- etch: 1:7.1.0-19 lenny: 1:7.3+18 squeeze: 1:7.3+19 sid: 1:7.4+3 |
| 21:18.44 | enouf | i thought the windows versions use the 1.x naming conventions , see wiki.x.org |
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| 21:19.35 | enouf | TiMiDo: might be blacklisted? |
| 21:19.50 | Gun_Smoke | Is there a preferred kernel to use along with virtualbox? Or should I be considering a different option for virtualization all together? |
| 21:19.53 | enouf | TiMiDo: what happens if you modprobe ipv6 ? |
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| 21:20.55 | debuz | enouf: it worked ;) |
| 21:20.57 | TiMiDo | WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. |
| 21:20.58 | debuz | thank you very much |
| 21:21.02 | debuz | enouf: ^^ |
| 21:21.11 | valdyn | TiMiDo: ignore |
| 21:21.21 | enouf | debuz: er .. what worked? :-) |
| 21:21.30 | valdyn | TiMiDo: thats a new topic, dont you want to fix your first issue first? |
| 21:21.41 | debuz | enouf: I was using the Modes statement in a wrong way |
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| 21:21.48 | debuz | looking at your config I could see what was wrong |
| 21:21.56 | debuz | and now xorg is running perfectly :) |
| 21:21.58 | debuz | thank you |
| 21:21.59 | enouf | debuz: ok ;-) |
| 21:22.02 | debuz | gonna conf the other stuff now |
| 21:22.06 | debuz | thank you very much! ;) |
| 21:22.09 | debuz | cya |
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| 21:23.05 | valdyn | TiMiDo: i believe you want to read the *complete* error message from radvd again |
| 21:23.19 | TiMiDo | how do i do that? |
| 21:23.29 | valdyn | TiMiDo: what? reading? |
| 21:23.47 | TiMiDo | the error message from radvd |
| 21:23.48 | enouf | !be a reading barbie |
| 21:23.48 | dpkg | Aww, reading is HARD! Let's go shopping, enouf |
| 21:24.00 | valdyn | TiMiDo: /etc/init.d/radvd start |
| 21:24.13 | TiMiDo | IPv6 support must be enabled in the kernel for radvd to work. |
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| 21:24.26 | valdyn | TiMiDo: that is not the complete message |
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| 21:25.01 | enouf | Gun_Smoke: AFAIK, doesn't matter for vbox, for openvz, xen, vserver, then yes |
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| 21:25.49 | TiMiDo | that was the message that i got |
| 21:25.52 | Gun_Smoke | enouf, that's what I was thinking when I looked at the list of available kernels... |
| 21:25.53 | enouf | Gun_Smoke: though /msg dpkg vbox and note the virtualbox-ose-* pkgs |
| 21:26.11 | valdyn | TiMiDo: it is not the complete message or you lied about the ipv6 thing |
| 21:26.30 | valdyn | TiMiDo: testing if ipv6 is loaded : "lsmod | grep ipv6" |
| 21:26.32 | enouf | $ apt-cache search virtualbox-ose |
| 21:26.53 | valdyn | TiMiDo: then once that module is loaded, i *know* that radvd gives a different error. |
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| 21:28.36 | Gun_Smoke | enouf, do you remember off the top of you head what features were/are lost between the ose edition and the non-free edition? USB support perhaps? |
| 21:29.10 | enouf | Gun_Smoke: no idea, likely maybe that and perhaps 3D? |
| 21:29.27 | Gun_Smoke | ah.. |
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| 21:29.44 | enouf | Gun_Smoke: i thought vmware had that USB issue - i don't know offhand |
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| 21:32.14 | Gun_Smoke | enouf, well I just went with vbox ose.. find out shortly.. |
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| 21:37.49 | Gun_Smoke | enouf, well that's odd.. the ose edition doesn't seem to work with amd64.. virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.26-2-amd64 is installed, but when trying to install a 64bit guest it complains I'm on 32bit hardware... on to the next solution I guess.. |
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| 21:46.03 | feld | any sid/nvidia users in here having issues since some recent updates? |
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| 21:46.38 | fedorauser162 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.38 | fedorauser162 | /sbin/ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" |
| 21:46.41 | fedorauser162 | "operation failed" |
| 21:46.43 | fedorauser162 | any ideas? |
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| 21:50.02 | adb | fedorauser162: paste /etc/network/interfaces , use paste.debian.net , or read/correct line 28 of that file |
| 21:50.19 | fedorauser162 | k |
| 21:50.22 | fedorauser162 | 1sec |
| 21:50.38 | adb | fedorauser162: use fedora ? |
| 21:50.38 | froggles | can i use my sources.list from lenny on testing if i replace all instances of lenny with testing ? |
| 21:51.00 | fedorauser162 | adb, on my other puter |
| 21:51.20 | helo | if i want to apply a patch to fluxbox, is there an easy way to get the source from apt, apply the patch, and create a .deb to install? |
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| 21:57.32 | dustybin | what is the name of the tool what checks your cpu temp etc |
| 21:57.38 | dustybin | i have it installed, just cannot remember the name |
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| 21:58.50 | TheJonJon | What's a good IRC client for Debian? |
| 21:59.10 | TheJonJon | I just installed xChat but don't think I like it much--- The only IRC client I ever used with mIRC years and years ago |
| 21:59.11 | mederEsite | irssi |
| 22:00.02 | mederEsite | , TheJonJon |
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| 22:01.03 | TheJonJon | mederEsite, Hmm, says terminal based, I'd rather something with a bit of graphical flair |
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| 22:01.22 | mederEsite | TheJonJon: cant hurt to try it |
| 22:01.46 | wizl | bitchx:D |
| 22:02.04 | mederEsite | heh |
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| 22:04.04 | TheJonJon | mederEsite: True that, I'll check it out- |
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| 22:07.05 | faffi | enouf: i fixed my wifi, the kernel upgrade to even with the headers didnt let me compile my nvidia modules but my hardware wireless switch had somehow turned itself off.... |
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| 22:08.24 | enouf | faffi: i'm lost .. but ok |
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| 22:09.04 | faffi | you were helping me yesterday updating kernel to .30 to use the ssb module since the regular ones in my kernel werent working |
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| 22:11.16 | enouf | faffi: ahh enouf> fraff: add serverworks to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.x.x |
| 22:11.34 | enouf | oh wait .. wrong nick? :-P |
| 22:11.37 | faffi | O_O |
| 22:11.38 | faffi | lol |
| 22:11.51 | betrayed | s |
| 22:12.00 | faffi | im back to my .26 kernel in squeeze with wl driver from broadcome i compiled :D |
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| 22:12.01 | faffi | all is good |
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| 22:12.17 | enouf | faffi: that's all that matters then ;-) |
| 22:12.40 | faffi | haha ya |
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| 22:17.24 | Z_God2 | I don't get an ipv6 default route, but I do get an ipv6 address |
| 22:17.38 | Z_God2 | the routing advertisement is done correctly according to the network admin |
| 22:17.42 | Z_God2 | how can I check this out? |
| 22:18.10 | Z_God2 | I'm running debian lenny |
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| 22:21.36 | karlpinc | Z_God2: With the "ip route" command? |
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| 22:23.41 | Z_God2 | karlpinc: it shows me the routes |
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| 22:23.51 | Z_God2 | but the default route is indeed missing |
| 22:24.25 | ryanprior | If I'm building a package and it fails in the end stages, is there a way I can run debuild again without having to recompile everything? I'm getting a bunch of messages like "dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to ecere-sdk-0.44d2.1/ec/release/pass15.o: binary file contents changed"How can I start the process again without having to clean everything and compile over again? |
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| 22:24.40 | skor_ | 'lo all. Trying to install kde4 on etch, but running into problems with kdebase-data being 4.2.4 instead of 4.2.2. Is there a workaround ? |
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| 22:25.48 | fedorauser162 | when it says "wireless-essid EeeAP" and i want to connect to a diff network can i just erase the EeeAP |
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| 22:27.16 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 22:27.49 | skor_ | hmm bad timing I guess. |
| 22:28.13 | skor_ | (transition between 4.2.2 and 4.2.4 ?) |
| 22:28.43 | Binnisb | I need some help with users and permissions. |
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| 22:29.23 | Binnisb | I have a user that downloads files to a folder and I want another user to be able to open and delete them from samba |
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| 22:30.32 | Binnisb | Can you help me or point me to a site with info? |
| 22:32.35 | cg_uira | Hi, I have the follow error with a nic 3c509 ISA in Lenny: 'SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy' |
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| 22:36.21 | bit0 | hello, i can't scan and print, i've a HP1315, any help, please? |
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| 22:52.56 | eviltux | hi all/hola a todos |
| 22:53.20 | Metalex | Anybody around with some good knowledge about RSA/DES encryption? |
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| 22:55.24 | craigevil | bit0: take a look at http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-1315 |
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| 22:59.28 | blast_hardcheese | So I'm kind of in a bad situation, |
| 22:59.50 | blast_hardcheese | The squeeze fun last night broke lvm2 |
| 22:59.56 | Free5 | what is the best site to learn the debian package management system? |
| 22:59.59 | macrobat | Binnisb: maybe http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/acl.htm |
| 23:00.19 | blast_hardcheese | pvck /dev/md0 repots "Could not find LVM label on /dev/md0" |
| 23:00.22 | blast_hardcheese | *reports |
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| 23:00.55 | blast_hardcheese | I can confirm that my XFS partition is there, I can see it when I hexdump the md device |
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| 23:02.26 | craigevil | Free5: read the debian docs |
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| 23:02.29 | blast_hardcheese | (I can't, however, mount -o offset= the XFS partition, which worries me.) |
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| 23:10.13 | ponyofdeath | hi, im using dnsmasq for dns on a local network. wondering what the best way to add some diff dns servers for it to use for some vpn domains that i have? |
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| 23:11.36 | blast_hardcheese | ponyofdeath: dnsmasq sources /etc/resolv.conf unless you tell it not to |
| 23:11.52 | blast_hardcheese | if you have, you can specify extra DNS servers in the dnsmasq.conf |
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| 23:12.05 | ponyofdeath | blast_hardcheese: yeah but it chooses a server at random from there i think i might have found it its the -S flag |
| 23:12.06 | blast_hardcheese | If you need me to look up the option I will, but it should all be self-documenting |
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| 23:12.27 | blast_hardcheese | You can tell to not choose them at random |
| 23:12.51 | froggles | is there a way to have testing with out kde4 ? |
| 23:12.55 | froggles | i prefer kde 3.5 |
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| 23:13.25 | blast_hardcheese | Should be able to pin kde 3.5 |
| 23:13.38 | blast_hardcheese | Don't know for sure though |
| 23:15.10 | ponyofdeath | blast_hardcheese: yeah i only want it to use it for certain subments that i have connected via openvpn |
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| 23:29.03 | skor_ | anyone using nvidia drivers on a PowerMac ? I only see IA32 and AMD64 drivers available for download |
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| 23:45.19 | szymon_g | hi |
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| 23:46.14 | Gokee2 | So I was trying to play blobAndConquer and not getting any sound. Then I found "Remove all music and sound files from the upstream tarball, as they are not DFSG compliant. Closes: #495531" Does this mean all sound is gone in the Debian package? |
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| 23:47.49 | exobyte | I'm trying to use nbd to share a hard drive, but I'm getting this: "error: cannot open nbd: no such file or directory" |
| 23:47.54 | exobyte | google wasn't ANY help |
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| 23:48.56 | Fedor | Hi |
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| 23:56.15 | MadMoney | Does Debian ever stop supporting an architecture? |
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| 23:57.03 | stew | MadMoney: yes, the next release will have the arm arch dropped, for instance |
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| 23:57.27 | c0m1 | stew: really? |
| 23:57.31 | stew | c0m1: yes |
| 23:57.39 | stew | c0m1: its already dropped in testing and unstable |
| 23:57.59 | stew | there is a good chance we will also drop hpux |
| 23:58.55 | `ns` | debin/testing I run a number of different storage devices on a single usb port, each time I change devices the /dev/sd## changes. Since I do not run a 'desktop manager', is there any way for me to control this so that fstab can will be useful to me for mounting them ? or am I just going to the logs and finding out what the latest /dev/???? is ? |
| 23:59.20 | c0m1 | stew: why drop ARM (not an expert on ARM, in case u hadn't noticed) |
| 23:59.55 | skor_ | arm, such as the arm cortex and similar for embedded devices / phones ? |
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| 23:59.56 | stew | c0m1: becuase there are not enough volunteers to support it |
