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| 00:00.15 | elik | dondelelcaro, oh, I see |
| 00:00.19 | ovnicraft | hi i am new in debian where i can find public main repo for lenny 5.0? |
| 00:00.25 | dondelelcaro | elik: yes, if you use m-a a-i nvidia; with 180.44-2, it will |
| 00:00.34 | dondelelcaro | ovnicraft: any Debian mirror has it. |
| 00:00.38 | dondelelcaro | !tell ovnicraft -about mirrors |
| 00:00.40 | ovnicraft | my installation just add to src.lst the dvd |
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| 00:01.16 | ovnicraft | the bot tell can tell me the mirrors? |
| 00:01.25 | elik | dondelelcaro, so m-a a-i will create the module and the nvidia-kernel-180.44 so I can update nvidia-glx... |
| 00:01.30 | dondelelcaro | ovnicraft: it told you where to look, yeah. |
| 00:01.53 | dondelelcaro | elik: it'll create the package which contains the module, and provides nvidia-kernel-180.44 |
| 00:01.58 | ovnicraft | dondelelcaro, thx |
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| 00:02.59 | elik | dondelelcaro, so basically, I uninstall nvidia-glx temporarily, fetch nvidia-kernel-source from sid, m-a a-i it, and then install nvidia-kernel-180.44 and nvidia-glx? |
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| 00:03.09 | elik | version 180.44-2? |
| 00:03.14 | simonrvn | yup |
| 00:03.26 | dondelelcaro | elik: you don't even need to remove it, actually |
| 00:03.30 | testi | Where is the action-scripts directory for openvz? |
| 00:03.40 | mythomaniac | here is the kernel panic that occurs every time i reboot the system while my network is connected, sometimes it can panic 8 or more times in a row, http://pastebin.com/d6366ea35 |
| 00:03.48 | kenjy | how can I know how many inodes I can handle in ram at the same time, how many I have used now and how many are empty in RAM not in the FS |
| 00:04.02 | elik | dondelelcaro, ok, it just doesn't like it much when I try to pull in nvidia-kernel-source/unstable... but fine, I'll give it a try |
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| 00:04.14 | elik | simonrvn, 2 yes is better than one :) |
| 00:04.18 | simonrvn | didn't remove it except in exceptional circumstance |
| 00:04.22 | simonrvn | s |
| 00:04.49 | elik | I think I did that the very first time, otherwise, I never really had to mess with nvidia-glx |
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| 00:05.15 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: man proc; and read about inode-state |
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| 00:05.38 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: though unless you're doing something exceptional, you generally won't care |
| 00:05.43 | mythomaniac | anyone able to help? |
| 00:05.47 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: done and proc don't have any /proc/sys/fs/inodes-max for example |
| 00:05.59 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: yes Im doing something exceptional |
| 00:06.36 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: inode-max doesn't exist anymore, afaik. |
| 00:06.48 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 00:07.15 | simonrvn | bit vague, frankly. try digging more. |
| 00:07.16 | dondelelcaro | (in fact, I think it was last around in 2.2) |
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| 00:07.49 | dondelelcaro | mythomaniac: it's probably a kernel bug, but since you're probably not running the newest development kernels, I wouldn't spend much time trying to track it down. |
| 00:07.53 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: Im trying to fix a issue in my system, it stoped working while uploading some files yesterday |
| 00:08.05 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: stopped working in what way? |
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| 00:08.20 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: what does df -i; df -h; output? |
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| 00:08.57 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: the HD space its ok, and the number of inodes in the HD its ok but I think that my debian kernel can't handle the number of sockets and inodes |
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| 00:09.22 | kenjy | sorry, the number of sockets and opened files ( that means inodes in ram, inodes at the same time= |
| 00:09.24 | kenjy | ) |
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| 00:09.30 | elik | How do I tell m-a to fetch sid's version? |
| 00:09.30 | mythomaniac | dondelelcaro, i'm using squeeze, kernel version 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 00:09.52 | elik | the /notation doesn't work :( |
| 00:10.05 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: well, inode-state will tell you about that |
| 00:11.29 | simonrvn | -t unstable |
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| 00:12.11 | elik | simonrvn, to module assistant??? cause -t is text mode... |
| 00:12.37 | simonrvn | oh, nm, thought it was something else.. |
| 00:13.58 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: well if thats true why /proc/sys/fs/inode-state shows that Im ussing 247112 and df -i show that Im ussing 252634 |
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| 00:20.45 | TemplaR | Hi, how do I do to install a local_file.deb with apt-get? |
| 00:20.53 | JordiGH | Hm, why the hell is dpkg loading Emacs when it's installing new packages? |
| 00:21.16 | JordiGH | Like... I get new GTK+ emacsen. |
| 00:21.20 | Sashi | hey a question |
| 00:22.00 | goedel | TemplaR: use: dpkg -i local_file.deb |
| 00:22.03 | elik | hum, swiss cheese crepes! |
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| 00:22.15 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: uh... they're measuring *totally* different things |
| 00:22.22 | Sashi | i want to be able to give multiple users a jailed ssh, but thats bad so to speak also i want to give them rtorrent as well |
| 00:22.38 | elik | dondelelcaro, how do I make sure I use nvidia-kernel-source 180.44 with m-a? |
| 00:22.42 | Sashi | should i use virtualization software to this or is there another way? |
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| 00:22.55 | creative2bad | TemplaR |
| 00:23.03 | creative2bad | http://www.everyjoe.com/newlinuxuser/howto-use-dpkg-to-install-deb-files/ |
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| 00:23.10 | creative2bad | ;) |
| 00:23.13 | beardy | Sashi: That would be the easiest and most secure, yes. |
| 00:23.14 | dondelelcaro | elik: if nvidia-kernel-source 180.44 is installed, it'll use that version |
| 00:23.29 | TemplaR | creative2bad, thanks |
| 00:23.31 | elik | dondelelcaro, hum... |
| 00:23.35 | Sashi | but the performance will def go down beardy |
| 00:23.39 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: assuming the second number in inode-state is positive, then you have free inodes |
| 00:23.50 | Sashi | the disk I/O writes is waht im worried about primarly |
| 00:23.56 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: regardless, what are the actual error messages you're getting? what's actually happening? |
| 00:24.35 | beardy | Sashi: Depends what virtualization you use, and how you set it up. |
| 00:24.44 | Sashi | oh beardy? |
| 00:24.52 | elik | dondelelcaro, so if apt-cache policy tells me 180.44-2 is installed, but m-a a-i nvidia-kernel-source still fails miserably, I guess I can assume the package is not quite ready yet, at least for amd64? |
| 00:24.58 | Sashi | whats a good software to use that doesnt hurt I/O writes |
| 00:25.10 | dondelelcaro | elik: dunno; depends on what the error is |
| 00:25.21 | elik | dondelelcaro, I get can't stat nvidia.ko |
| 00:25.23 | beardy | Sashi: If you give it it's own partition, and not a filesystem in a file, there will be some difference. |
| 00:25.40 | Sashi | beardy: what? |
| 00:25.42 | dondelelcaro | elik: there should be an error before that |
| 00:25.45 | oh_noes | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.52 | Sashi | yes i plan on having software raid 0 beardy |
| 00:25.59 | Sashi | with seperate partitions |
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| 00:26.56 | dondelelcaro | oh_noes: splashy or similar |
| 00:27.04 | beardy | Sashi: A separate disk for each virtual machine would of course give you least noticeable slowdowns disk-wise.. |
| 00:27.09 | elik | dondelelcaro, plenty of entering, leaving and such.. can I do a "make clean"... thinking some errors might have popped up at a previous attempt |
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| 00:27.14 | elik | dondelelcaro, m-a clean? |
| 00:27.23 | Sashi | beardy: i plan on using seperate partitions |
| 00:27.58 | macman_ | anyway to force a disk out from the cli besides just regualr eject ? |
| 00:28.10 | beardy | Sashi: Ok. What kind of virtualization where you planning? I haven't set one up, only used a guest machine, but, xen is nice. |
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| 00:28.30 | Sashi | beardy: ive tried xen but with no success |
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| 00:28.45 | Sashi | beardy: ive done openvz but it doesnt really play well |
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| 00:29.13 | beardy | Sashi: Hmm, Xen, on Debian, with Debian guests? |
| 00:29.14 | elik | dondelelcaro, ok... m-a update, m-a clean nvidia-kernel-source, m-a a-i nvidia-kernel-source went well... |
| 00:29.20 | Sashi | beardy: yes |
| 00:29.29 | beardy | Sashi: I'm sure it might be a bit tricky, but many people run that. |
| 00:29.48 | beardy | Sashi: Not sure how recent the wiki is, but there's some howto's on there for it. |
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| 00:30.17 | Sashi | beardy: with xen i need to have host-only networking, and IIRC xen doesnt have that |
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| 00:31.21 | beardy | Sashi: Have a look at virtualbox. But what do you mean with host-only? |
| 00:31.27 | dondelelcaro | macman_: eject is it; if it doesn't work, then you need to see whether it's in use by something |
| 00:31.31 | Sashi | host-only networking beardy |
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| 00:32.15 | beardy | Sashi: Yes, and what do you mean with that? One physical interface, that you want to bridge, or, what? |
| 00:32.22 | elik | dondelelcaro, could that be m-a sources that was out of date with apt ones? or the build was just in an unclean state? |
| 00:32.36 | Sashi | no, no bridgin |
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| 00:34.49 | beardy | Sashi: Hmm, ok. Well, virtualbox has it's own between-the-machines-network possibility, if that's what you mean.. Basically the guests get a NAT:ed connection, or their own VLAN. |
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| 00:37.05 | macman_ | dondelelcaro- how do i find what was using it |
| 00:37.13 | macman_ | dondelelcaro- i was using cd creator |
| 00:37.53 | dureyes | I installed HandBrake, and know where the .exe file is but I can not locate the folder that has the following file " user_presets.xml" where else can find? |
| 00:38.58 | martian67 | -_- |
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| 00:43.51 | TheSarge | I am trying to use rungetty to start screen on tty1 automaticly, this is what i added to inittab 1:23:respawn:/sbin/rungetty tty1 -w /home/seanjon -u seanjon screen /bin/bash I also commented out the old line. |
| 00:44.21 | TheSarge | But after using init 3 to respawn tty's I get Cannot open your terminal '/dev/tty1' - please check. |
| 00:44.25 | TheSarge | on tty1 |
| 00:45.05 | TheSarge | Funny thing is I have no tty's in /dev |
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| 00:48.04 | beardy | TheSarge: I'd run it in .bashrc instead.. |
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| 00:48.40 | TheSarge | beardy: That is specific to a user |
| 00:48.51 | TheSarge | I need it to work before I am logged in |
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| 00:49.17 | TheSarge | Thats kind of the whole point |
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| 00:50.03 | ttuttle_ | Hey. I'm trying to get A2DP (Bluetooth hifi audio) working on sid. I've done everything I think I need to do (installed bluez, set up an alsa output) and mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth file.mp3 gives me "bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)" |
| 00:51.02 | abrotman | is it even recognized as a BT device? |
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| 00:51.32 | ttuttle_ | abrotman: yeah |
| 00:51.37 | beardy | TheSarge: You can't run it with no user, or as another user than your own, who would have access to it? |
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| 00:52.04 | ttuttle_ | Oh, now I'm getting "BT_GETCAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5)" |
| 00:52.23 | beardy | TheSarge: Anyway. I see your line above so, not sure.. but I doubt it likes having no controlling shell. |
| 00:53.02 | TheSarge | beardy: thats the point of rungetty... |
| 00:53.15 | ttuttle_ | Never mind, it's working :) |
| 00:53.25 | beardy | I don't see the point of doing it that way at all. |
| 00:53.40 | beardy | Too lazy to put in a password is the only reason afaisee. |
| 00:53.43 | abrotman | ttuttle_: glad we could help |
| 00:54.16 | ttuttle_ | abrotman: :) |
| 00:54.27 | ttuttle_ | abrotman: it's just Bluetooth being Bluetooth :( |
| 00:54.40 | abrotman | shocker |
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| 00:56.45 | elik | Hum, X fails to start, after installing kernel 2.6.29 and updating to driver 180.44... |
| 00:56.59 | Manoj | can't reproduce that |
| 00:57.00 | elik | Looking at logs, I see a fatal error, signal 11, and a stack trace.. |
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| 00:58.13 | abrotman | elik: you ddi both at the same time? |
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| 00:58.28 | elik | I see compCreateWindow hands off to nvidia_drv.so, then another call in the black box, to come out in libc.so... and SignalHandler probably gives the signal 11 |
| 00:58.55 | elik | abrotman, well, I installed 2.6.29 a week ago or so, and headers were messed, so I sticked to 2.6.26 |
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| 00:59.15 | elik | abrotman, today, I saw nvidia-kernel-source had a fix in unstable, so I fetched it, installed and all |
| 00:59.20 | elik | abrotman, and here I am |
| 00:59.25 | abrotman | elik: does it still work with .26? |
| 01:00.10 | elik | abrotman, I didn't build nvidia-kernel-source against 2.6.26... so I'm hoping it does... |
| 01:00.40 | hacker_kid | i have been trying to configure xserver-xorg for the last couple days and only figured out a thousand ways to crash xserver lol. a bit of research makes me think that nvidia-glx would work but i cant seem to install it properly. could anyone point me to some documentation or walk me through it |
| 01:00.43 | elik | abrotman, my goal was, don't touch 2.6.26, as it's fully "testing" and mess with 2.6.29, cause it has updates I want |
| 01:00.51 | elik | abrotman, trying 2.6.26 right away... |
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| 01:02.34 | elik | abrotman, that would be a no, but different issue.. it just doesn't have the nvidia module for the kernel from what I can see |
| 01:02.37 | smacnay | Hi, is there any problem using m-a to set up nvidia drivers in sid with a 2.6.26 kernel? I see that my xorg stuff (after moving from testing to sid) seems to be in need of repair and most seems to depend on moving up to the newer nvidia drivers. |
| 01:02.59 | abrotman | smacnay: meet elik :) |
| 01:03.07 | smacnay | elik: problems with compiling the nvidia kernel module? |
| 01:03.08 | elik | smacnay, hello there :) |
| 01:03.14 | smacnay | abrotman: hehe -was wondering. |
| 01:03.22 | elik | smacnay, it compiled alright, but X just won't start |
| 01:03.30 | abrotman | elik: note he said .29 |
| 01:03.34 | abrotman | erm .. .26 |
| 01:03.35 | elik | right |
| 01:03.44 | elik | I want .29 though |
| 01:03.45 | smacnay | I know that the nvidia kernel mods will not compile against the 2.6.29 headers. |
| 01:03.46 | Manoj | I just compiled 2.6.29.1 and nvdia modules for my laptop a couple of hours ago, and things seem fine |
| 01:03.54 | elik | and I *think* .26 will be fine when I build them |
| 01:03.54 | smacnay | elik: won't work |
| 01:03.57 | Manoj | I did just use make-kpkg, and notm-a |
| 01:04.23 | smacnay | Manoj: really, I was using m-a but with a .deb kernel |
| 01:04.33 | smacnay | Manoj: did you compile your own kernel? |
| 01:04.36 | elik | I'm trying to use stock kernel |
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| 01:04.57 | smacnay | elik: I have tried and know it won't work - I read some stuff on the web about why. |
| 01:05.02 | elik | abrotman, maybe a piece of info that would be useful, if I log in an user from console, and startx, it works... |
| 01:05.14 | elik | smacnay, the webs move fast ;) |
| 01:05.16 | smacnay | elik: something to do with broken linkages and such - above my head and desire to fix. |
| 01:05.18 | abrotman | elik: not useful to me |
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| 01:06.28 | elik | smacnay, patch submitted a yesterday or earlier today by some COOL DUDE! |
| 01:07.21 | smacnay | elik: well, I am sticking with the 2.6.26 kernel for now. I am not sure about whether to upgrade the nvidia drivers in sid so that I can complete my upgrade (from testing to sid). |
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| 01:07.35 | jetscreamer | easiest to just build a new .29 kernel using the stock kernel's config |
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| 01:08.31 | smacnay | jetscreamer: true - just do a "make oldconfig" on it |
| 01:08.44 | jetscreamer | i've stuck with .26 also, cuz i'm too lazy to compile a kernel |
| 01:08.49 | jetscreamer | sid btw |
| 01:08.52 | smacnay | jetscreamer: me too |
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| 01:09.05 | elik | .29 is almost working |
| 01:09.12 | elik | working more than .26 now at least :( |
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| 01:09.34 | Manoj | smacnay: yeah, I compile my own. I can have a much less bloated kernel, since I can narrow down what hardware support I configure in |
| 01:09.35 | jetscreamer | uses the evil nvidia-installer |
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| 01:10.12 | smacnay | Manoj: I used to but found I always forgot some module I needed or wasn't sure of which hardware I really had. |
| 01:10.45 | Manoj | make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --append-to-version foo kernel-image && fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version foo modules_image |
| 01:11.11 | Manoj | I generally do zcat /proc/config.gz >| .config before |
| 01:11.31 | Manoj | this way, I never forget something; the machine hardware changes almost never |
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| 01:13.03 | jetscreamer | oh what release has 2.6.12 in it.. (or so, which stable release would be closest) i have a very old sid box, that's the kernel... no network. |
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| 01:13.28 | jetscreamer | searches |
| 01:13.53 | smacnay | xserver-xorg-video-all does not need to be installed, just the one package or few packages that are necessary for our hardware (mouse, kbd, nv, etc.)? |
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| 01:14.35 | jetscreamer | pre-udev even |
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| 01:15.35 | hacker_kid | i installed and ran nvidia-config and get a module does not exist error for "type1" and "nvidia" when loading xserver. where can i get these modules/ |
| 01:15.38 | hacker_kid | ?* |
| 01:15.50 | TheSarge | can anyone help me figure out why I cant get rungetty to open tty1? |
| 01:15.55 | Manoj | type1 is now gone |
| 01:15.57 | TheSarge | I thinks its a perminssions thing |
| 01:16.25 | Manoj | you need to install the nvidia-kernel-* .deb in order to get the nvidia module |
| 01:16.29 | TheSarge | All I wanted to do is get tty to start screen when invoked, and here I am 2 hours later |
| 01:16.44 | jetscreamer | etch i think |
| 01:16.56 | hacker_kid | Manoj: i didnt see that package in aptitude, if type1 doesnt exist then what do i do? |
| 01:17.23 | Manoj | I am not sure you need the type module in xorg anymore |
| 01:17.27 | jetscreamer | hacker_kid: are you trying to figure out why xorg doesn't work and all you see in the xorg log is EE type 1? |
| 01:17.42 | Manoj | I just deleted the type1 line from /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 01:17.50 | TheSarge | hacker_kid: Can you help, you saw what was going on with my issue in ##linux |
| 01:18.05 | hacker_kid | jetscreamer: no its a module does not exist error. |
| 01:18.05 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 01:18.07 | abrotman | TheSarge: did you try putting it in your inittab? |
| 01:18.19 | hacker_kid | Manoj: i will remove that, but where do i get that nvidia package? |
| 01:18.26 | hacker_kid | TheSarge: i wasnt paying attention, brief me |
| 01:18.28 | jetscreamer | the type1 error is ignorable afaict |
| 01:18.29 | TheSarge | abrotman: Yes its in my innittab thats the problem |
| 01:18.38 | jetscreamer | the nvidia you have to compile.. or just change it to nv |
| 01:18.47 | Manoj | hacker_kid: if you are using a stock kernel, there are nvidia-linux-foo packages in debian |
| 01:19.09 | Manoj | hacker_kid: or else install nvidia-kernel-source, and compile that for your non-stock kernel |
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| 01:19.20 | hacker_kid | Manoj: "aptitude search nvidia" did not show any other packages but nvidia-xconfig |
| 01:19.34 | hacker_kid | jetscreamer: good to know i will take care of that |
| 01:19.35 | jetscreamer | only in sid or stable probably... seems to be usual |
| 01:19.35 | TheSarge | But after using init 3 to respawn tty's I get Cannot open your terminal '/dev/tty1' - please check. |
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| 01:19.47 | Manoj | hacker_kid: those packages are in non-free |
| 01:19.49 | TheSarge | I am trying to use rungetty to start screen on tty1 automaticly, this is what i added to inittab 1:23:respawn:/sbin/rungetty tty1 -w /home/seanjon -u seanjon screen /bin/bash I also commented out the old line. |
| 01:19.55 | hacker_kid | Manoj: ok thank you :) |
| 01:19.58 | TheSarge | hacker_kid: ^ |
| 01:19.58 | Manoj | __> apt-cache search nvidia-kernel- | wc -l |
| 01:19.59 | Manoj | 32 |
| 01:19.59 | Manoj | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.00 | kickar | Hi i am trying to mount windows partition can someone assist me ? |
| 01:20.04 | jetscreamer | the nvidia packages i mean... check pdo |
| 01:20.11 | jetscreamer | !tell hacker_kid -about pdo |
| 01:20.24 | abrotman | kickar: which version of debian? |
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| 01:20.25 | jetscreamer | !tell kickar -about ntfs-3g |
| 01:20.34 | TheSarge | abrotman: ^ |
| 01:20.45 | hacker_kid | jetscreamer: Manoj: thank you very much |
| 01:20.55 | elik | abrotman, same issues with .26 and .29 now... gdm can't start X, but user can (startx) |
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| 01:21.18 | abrotman | wonders why he has packages in the 'in' state |
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| 01:21.38 | TheSarge | kicks himself in the face |
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| 01:22.30 | kickar | abrotman, 5.0.0.1 |
| 01:22.31 | TheSarge | abrotman: Are ya there? |
| 01:22.35 | jetscreamer | now do it in the back of your head! |
| 01:22.38 | abrotman | kickar: no such version |
| 01:22.53 | abrotman | TheSarge: and what happens when it runs? |
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| 01:23.00 | jetscreamer | too many 0's for abrotman to be able to guess... |
| 01:23.05 | elik | abrotman, you think X stack trace error could be useful to you? |
| 01:23.16 | kickar | abrotman, i am new sorry |
| 01:23.17 | TheSarge | The guy who was helping me was thinking maybe on my system rungetty didnt have perms to run tty1 |
| 01:23.22 | abrotman | elik: does it fail with the nv/ves driver ? |
| 01:23.29 | jetscreamer | vesa |
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| 01:23.44 | TheSarge | abrotman: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/tty1' - please check. |
| 01:23.56 | jetscreamer | s/ves/vesa/ btw elik |
| 01:24.05 | jetscreamer | goes off to lurk |
| 01:24.09 | macman_ | guys |
| 01:24.10 | elik | jetscreamer, right |
| 01:24.16 | macman_ | atapi is the cdrom right ? |
| 01:24.30 | elik | abrotman, I just need to change the device driver in Xorg.conf, right? |
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| 01:24.44 | TheSarge | he was having me use strace to see whats going wrong, but I have no clue what I am doing with that |
| 01:24.45 | kickar | abrotman, do i need to enable something in kernel ? |
| 01:24.59 | abrotman | kickar: the bot already told you |
| 01:25.16 | jetscreamer | ok so etch->lenny is what i need to look at |
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| 01:26.24 | TheSarge | abrotman: the funny thing is that he is on a debian 5 system as well... and it worked for him |
| 01:27.24 | abrotman | TheSarge: compare permissions ? |
| 01:27.57 | TheSarge | abrotman: Ya I showed him my permissions for tty1 and he said AHAH and then left? :( |
| 01:28.24 | abrotman | TheSarge: great plan ? |
| 01:28.45 | TheSarge | abrotman: huh? |
| 01:28.49 | Manoj | crw-------. 1 root root system_u:object_r:tty_device_t:s0 4, 1 2009-04-12 09:27 /dev/tty1 |
| 01:28.52 | Manoj | ? |
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| 01:29.15 | TheSarge | Beefix:/dev# ls -l /dev/tty1 |
| 01:29.15 | TheSarge | crw------- 1 root root 4, 1 2009-04-14 17:25 /dev/tty1 |
| 01:29.16 | abrotman | the 'leaving' part :) |
| 01:29.21 | jetscreamer | kickar: you'll need to install ntfs-3g and put a line SIMILAR to this in fstab: #/dev/sda1 /home/sda1 ntfs-3g auto,users,noexec,rw,umask=022,fmask=0113,dmask=002,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8 0 0 |
| 01:29.27 | TheSarge | lol ya, so now I am like ummm? |
| 01:29.31 | elik | abrotman, vesa doesn't seem to like my big ass screen, but it loads.. let's see if gdm can start it itself |
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| 01:29.53 | DrCheese | LINUX will kill your hard drive |
| 01:29.55 | elik | abrotman, going from one run level to another would be reliable and save me a restart every time? |
| 01:30.07 | abrotman | DrCheese: wrong channel |
| 01:30.14 | DrCheese | no correct |
| 01:30.20 | DrCheese | Debian will also kill your hd |
| 01:30.29 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 01:30.30 | DrCheese | fuck |
| 01:30.31 | elik | DrCheese, nice propagenda |
| 01:30.34 | elik | bye bye |
| 01:30.34 | DrCheese | noooooooo |
| 01:30.34 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@c-24-218-98-187.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] by abrotman |
| 01:30.34 | *** kick/#debian [DrCheese!n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman] by abrotman (abrotman) |
| 01:30.36 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 01:30.36 | jetscreamer | kill your hard drive AND your hd eh |
| 01:30.40 | jetscreamer | wow |
| 01:30.49 | jetscreamer | propaganda |
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| 01:31.01 | TheSarge | abrotman: So where to now lol? |
| 01:31.11 | jetscreamer | what's up with a2 leaving/going all the time |
| 01:31.15 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 01:31.34 | jetscreamer | or is it an on_join spam kill bot |
| 01:31.46 | abrotman | jetscreamer: latter |
| 01:31.52 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 01:32.08 | elik | abrotman, .29 starts fine with vesa |
| 01:32.18 | abrotman | elik: so it's an nvidia problem? |
| 01:32.21 | Manoj | according to /., linux can get you arrested and/or you computer confisticated by the cops (especially is you live in boston) |
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| 01:32.33 | elik | abrotman, certainly seems so... |
| 01:32.39 | jetscreamer | damn so i'll have to d/l an etch cd AND a lenny cd |
| 01:33.21 | elik | I don't see the difference between going from console through gdm into X and logging in as my user on console and doing startx... |
| 01:33.52 | macman_ | abrotman- .. know the funny thing of not having visable op .. is when somone is messing up and they see the whole sets mode +o .. they know they are in trouble |
| 01:33.56 | Nikke | is it possible to get better fonts in firefox? :O it looks kind of strange and ugly |
| 01:34.06 | macman_ | * ChanServ gives channel operator status to abrotman |
| 01:34.06 | macman_ | <DrCheese> fuck |
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| 01:34.19 | abrotman | macman_: no need to paste that |
| 01:34.34 | macman_ | my bad |
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| 01:34.54 | TheSarge | abrotman: if you know another method I'd be glad to completely abandon this one |
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| 01:35.39 | abrotman | TheSarge: do it with an @reboot cron task ? |
| 01:35.49 | hacker_kid | im getting a broken package error when installing nvidia-kernel-2.6-686 how could i resolve that? |
| 01:36.21 | TheSarge | abrotman: see I have no clue what that means... |
| 01:36.53 | TheSarge | and why is my nick hilighting broken! |
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| 01:37.43 | TheSarge | do I need to change my tty1 permissions? |
| 01:38.04 | abrotman | TheSarge: http://blog.moopsfc.com/37/2006/08/31/using-gnu-screen-to-launch-server-apps-from-inittab/ ? |
| 01:38.41 | TheSarge | abrotman: do you use screen? |
| 01:39.06 | elik | hacker_kid, you mena nvidia-kernel-180.44 or something like that? |
| 01:39.07 | abrotman | not like you're trying to |
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| 01:39.25 | TheSarge | abrotman: so you call it everytime you want to use it? |
| 01:39.42 | abrotman | or disconnect/reconnect |
| 01:39.46 | hacker_kid | elik, no i mean nvidia-kernel-2.6-686 the nvidia driver package for kernel 2.6 series i686 architecture |
| 01:40.16 | TheSarge | abrotman: how about using .bashrc? |
| 01:40.21 | hacker_kid | elik: i keep getting unresolvable dependancies and broken packages |
| 01:40.29 | abrotman | TheSarge: no |
| 01:40.44 | TheSarge | abrotman: it won't work? |
| 01:40.53 | abrotman | i didn't say that .. just that i don't do it |
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| 01:41.14 | TheSarge | okay I am asking if you know how I could do it using .bashrc |
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| 01:44.03 | elik | abrotman, anything I could try to work out from the fact that nvidia driver can be started from user through startx, and not from boot process gdm? |
| 01:44.36 | abrotman | does it throw any useful errors ? |
| 01:44.43 | jpinx | Nikke: you can try add-on themes |
| 01:45.07 | jpinx | Nikke: or configure your window manager |
| 01:45.35 | elik | abrotman, there is a stack trace |
| 01:45.52 | abrotman | there is? |
| 01:45.58 | Nikke | jpinx: i use wmii |
| 01:46.45 | elik | abrotman, yup |
| 01:46.55 | elik | I somewhat described it earlier, let me pastebin it |
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| 01:50.10 | jpinx | Nikke: I use openbox and configured that. Are you trying to change the look of the tool-bars on iceweasel or what is in the window/website ? |
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| 01:51.25 | elik_ | abrotman, pikaboo, http://pastebin.com/f71e0eef9 |
| 01:51.32 | Nikke | jpinx: its the websites |
| 01:51.47 | elik_ | fuck this is annoying, x will try to restart every 2 minutes -_- |
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| 01:52.48 | abrotman | elik_: cute ... tried an older nvidia version ? |
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| 01:53.30 | elik_ | abrotman, the patch for .29 is only on 180.44 :( |
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| 01:53.59 | abrotman | oh |
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| 01:55.17 | jpinx | Nikke: In Iceweasel menu > Edit > Preferences > Content > Fonts & Colours and make your choices there |
| 01:56.13 | jpinx | Nikke: in there is an "Advanced" option which allows you to force website to use your choices |
| 01:56.17 | Nikke | jpinx: ok i will try that |
| 01:56.55 | elik_ | abrotman, Patch for Debian 2.6.29: http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/news/20090411T224712Z.html |
| 01:57.25 | abrotman | he's hte package maintainer |
| 01:57.37 | elik_ | who he? |
| 01:57.40 | elik_ | I want him! |
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| 01:57.52 | abrotman | randall is |
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| 01:58.36 | elik_ | is he around? |
| 01:58.47 | abrotman | doubtful |
| 01:58.51 | justin__ | what would cause "(EE) No drivers available" when loading xserver |
| 01:59.33 | simonrvn | pretty obvious error message.... |
| 01:59.55 | justin__ | yes it is, there are no drivers available. but the question is what specifically caused it and how can i fix it |
| 02:00.14 | elik_ | abrotman, I guess posting a bug report on debian would be the best way to see what can be done of it... |
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| 02:00.37 | abrotman | elik_: or try again here tomorrow |
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| 02:02.44 | elik | abrotman, how do I stop gdm from retrying??? I am going to kill my computer!!! |
| 02:02.56 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 02:04.02 | gaintsura | is there anything like this http://revisor.fedoraunity.org/ for debian? |
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| 02:04.25 | jmeeuwen | gaintsura, preferably use http://fedorahosted.org/revisor |
| 02:04.32 | elik | abrotman, and to prevent it from loading gdm until there is a better solution, uppon reboot.. I guess i could just get rid of gdm ( :D ) but there must be a better way |
| 02:04.39 | jmeeuwen | it has more recent documentation and ticketing and stuff |
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| 02:04.52 | gaintsura | yeah, in any event, is there one for debian? |
| 02:04.57 | abrotman | elik: update-rc.d |
| 02:05.04 | abrotman | gaintsura: which part of that project? |
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| 02:05.19 | jmeeuwen | gaintsura, i believe ubuntu has a similar project, not sure what it's name is right now |
| 02:05.23 | gaintsura | revisor, the installation maker |
| 02:05.30 | gaintsura | err |
| 02:05.34 | gaintsura | installation media maker |
| 02:05.35 | abrotman | !fai |
| 02:05.36 | dpkg | an automated installation tool to install or deploy Debian GNU/Linux and other distributions on a bunch of different hosts or a Cluster. It's more flexible than other tools like kickstart for Red Hat, autoyast and alice for SuSE or Jumpstart for SUN Solaris. FAI can also be used for configuration management of a running system. channel: #fai site: http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ |
| 02:05.37 | elik | abrotman, last thing, I guess randall hangs around here as "randall"... |
| 02:05.42 | abrotman | !cdd |
| 02:05.42 | dpkg | somebody said cdd was "Custom Debian Distribution", see http://wiki.debian.org/CustomDebian and http://wiki.debian.org/Simple-CDD These are probably to be renamed "Debian Pure Blends". |
| 02:05.56 | jmeeuwen | tada ;-) |
| 02:05.59 | gaintsura | good stuffs |
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| 02:05.59 | gaintsura | =D |
| 02:06.17 | gaintsura | muchly appreciated |
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| 02:08.14 | TheSarge | I give up lol |
| 02:08.19 | gaintsura | abrotman: the fai link... I'm assuming could be used after the CDD stuff correct? |
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| 02:09.26 | abrotman | not sure .. i just gave you two possibilities ... not really sure what your goal is |
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| 02:09.45 | TheSarge | abrotman: how about making screen start inside of a gterm automaticly, is that any easier? |
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| 02:10.07 | abrotman | i don't use gterm .. no idea |
| 02:10.47 | gaintsura | TheSarge: I think you'd just execute a screen command in the ~/.bashrc |
| 02:11.04 | gaintsura | would prboably be the easiest |
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| 02:11.43 | bellorin | alguien de caracas |
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| 02:13.22 | macman_ | ok guys .. tell me if im executing this command right .. ok |
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| 02:13.39 | stew | !es |
| 02:13.39 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:13.52 | macman_ | find / -iname *.doc -exec cp -a {} /media/external/doc/ \; ? |
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| 02:14.15 | TheSarge | gaintsura: How do I make it for all users though? |
| 02:14.36 | elik | macman_, seems fine, but what is the issue anyway... |
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| 02:14.50 | macman_ | elky- want to move all docs from a hd to a folder called doc |
| 02:14.56 | elik | make that elik |
| 02:15.07 | elik | and does it work? |
| 02:15.35 | gaintsura | TheSarge: put it in the /etc/profile file and then source /etc/profile |
| 02:15.43 | justin__ | the debian documentation recommends using vesa or nv drivers for a nvidia card, whenever i add the line 'Driver "nv"' or "vesa" to the appropriate section of xorg.conf loading xserver cut monitor output until i switch to another tty |
| 02:15.56 | elik | macman_, are you trying to get us to certify it won't fail? |
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| 02:16.01 | TheSarge | gaintsura: what exactly do I add to .bashrc and where? |
| 02:16.06 | elik | macman_, moving is done with mv too, not cp |
| 02:16.10 | justin__ | i have nvidia-glx installed but cannot install nvidia-kernel-2.2.6-686 due to a broken package |
| 02:16.20 | elik | macman_, and DO TRY it one a part of your hd rather than the whole /... |
| 02:16.22 | enyawix | debhelper: help non-free help |
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| 02:16.23 | macman_ | elky- im just trying to copy |
| 02:16.33 | elik | make that elik |
| 02:16.35 | elik | macman_, do you have any backup? |
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| 02:16.50 | stew | enyawix: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:17.13 | gaintsura | TheSarge: 1) I don't know exactly what you are doing, 2) add whatever command you want to execute for all users on every terminal window to /etc/profile and what you want to happen for each individual's terminal's in ~/.bashrc, dont forget to source those files when you change them |
| 02:17.31 | macman_ | elik- im backuping up this computer slowley .. im taring each directory .. say for examples .. all the *.docs .. im creating a folder called doc/ and doing a tar czvf doc.tar.gz doc/ |
| 02:17.44 | enyawix | stew I want to turn the non free sources on. |
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| 02:18.08 | enyawix | debhelper: help |
| 02:18.14 | elik | macman_, sorry to bug you with that again, but you (or your client) adding - right after your name doesn't pop my client up... |
| 02:18.36 | stew | enyawix: edit /etc/init.d/sources.list and where it says "main" make it say "main non-free" or perhaps "main control non-free" |
| 02:18.36 | macman_ | yea elik im going to change that :P |
| 02:18.43 | elik | thank you :) |
| 02:18.49 | stew | enyawix: and you want "/msg dpkg help" ; debhelper is something different |
| 02:18.51 | elik | macman_, the comman seem ok |
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| 02:19.01 | macman_ | elik: how is that |
| 02:19.02 | macman_ | lol |
| 02:19.07 | elik | purrfect |
| 02:19.19 | macman_ | well i was doing elk .. thats why it wasn't working |
| 02:19.24 | TheSarge | gaintsura: I have no cluw how to do anything you just said, but its way more complicated than I thought, so I guess ill just give up. |
| 02:19.43 | enyawix | stew thanks |
| 02:19.48 | elik | macman_, give it a try by changin the root of your find and you'll know soon enough |
| 02:20.06 | elik | macman_, you might want to look into backup solutions such as rsync and the like... |
| 02:20.25 | macman_ | elik: the computer has no ethernet support |
| 02:20.44 | elik | macman_, rsync is not only over ethernet.. last time I checked |
| 02:20.52 | TheSarge | I just want screen to run whenever bash is invoked automaticly |
| 02:21.06 | abrotman | symlink bash to screen? |
| 02:21.15 | gaintsura | TheSarge: don't give up, only quitters quit, and quitters... are quitters |
| 02:21.15 | TheSarge | Surely people do this, or soes everyone just call screen everytime they login? |
| 02:21.58 | TheSarge | abrotman: That sounds simple |
| 02:21.58 | avu | TheSarge, ssh -t host screen -dr |
| 02:22.13 | abrotman | TheSarge: it's also very wrong ..and will break lots of things :) |
| 02:22.14 | \amethyst | TheSarge: usually they either use screen as their login shell, or they run something like xterm -e screen |
| 02:22.14 | TheSarge | avu: I am talking loacl |
| 02:22.15 | avu | TheSarge, or just add it to your shell's startup scripts |
| 02:22.19 | gaintsura | the sarge, from terminal: nano /etc/profile ; then page down to the end, add the command you want to use screen with at the end (as if you were typing it), then Ctrl+X, hit Y, hit enter, then type source /etc/profile |
| 02:22.26 | avu | TheSarge, why would you want to use screen locally? |
| 02:22.39 | stew | avu: i usually have 4 or 5 screens locally |
| 02:22.46 | TheSarge | avu: because its better than using up all my vt's? |
| 02:23.02 | avu | stew, doesn't your terminal emulator have nice tabbing and such builtin? :( |
| 02:23.16 | TheSarge | Tabbing eats resources |
| 02:23.21 | avu | haha |
| 02:23.26 | avu | while screen doesn't? :) |
| 02:23.28 | TheSarge | and I dont use x unless I have to |
| 02:23.30 | avu | that's cute |
| 02:23.33 | stew | avu: no, and those don't survive x restarting, and i like to be able to close terminal emulators without having to quit programs |
| 02:23.42 | \amethyst | avu: my terminal emulator doesn't support detaching a session and reattaching to it later |
| 02:23.54 | TheSarge | screen uses a quarter as much resources per tab/screen then gterm or xterm |
| 02:23.55 | stew | avu: i always at least have a "mutt" window with mutt/offlineimap and a "music" window with cplay/alsamixer |
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| 02:24.06 | avu | well, I must be quite special, not crashing X or randomly closing terminal emulators all the time :) |
| 02:24.12 | stew | avu: and i don't want th emusic to stop, just becuase i'm restarting my windowmanager |
| 02:24.26 | TheSarge | wow someone just got schooled lol |
| 02:24.29 | stew | avu: you don't author a buggy window manager :) |
| 02:24.42 | avu | stew, indeed I don't |
| 02:24.43 | abrotman | blames tritium for crashing all the time :) |
| 02:25.08 | avu | in fact I just use a quite stable one, that doesn't need restarting or anything like that even if I mess up its configuration |
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| 02:25.47 | TheSarge | I am currently using Gterm and I hate it, I want to keep out of x and use screen, just was looking for an easy way to have screen loaded automaticly so I dont have to call it each time. |
| 02:25.47 | stew | i also have one for each client, when i stop working on a clients stuff i want the window to go away, but when i start again, i don't want to have to again start all the terms that i might want... |
| 02:26.05 | Xenguy | screen FTW |
| 02:26.16 | stew | i used to always run my window manager in screen, so when it crashed i could see the stacktrace from a vt :) |
| 02:26.35 | \amethyst | TheSarge: chsh -s /usr/bin/screen to set your login shell to screen |
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| 02:26.42 | TheSarge | you can run x in screen? |
| 02:27.01 | gaintsura | TheSarge: from terminal: nano /etc/profile ; then page down to the end, add the command you want to use screen with at the end (as if you were typing it), then Ctrl+X, hit Y, hit enter, then type source /etc/profile <- |
| 02:27.09 | DeadFishMan | hi |
| 02:27.09 | TheSarge | \amethyst: wow thats simple, and that won't break anything? |
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| 02:27.23 | abrotman | TheSarge: you can run screen from the console and start X from within the running screen (like oyu can from the console) |
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| 02:27.43 | stew | gaintsura: realize the /etc/profile is used for non-interactive shells |
| 02:28.00 | TheSarge | lol so many conflicting ideas |
| 02:28.02 | gaintsura | oh |
| 02:28.18 | gaintsura | then it would be /etc/bash.bashrc I think? |
| 02:28.18 | TheSarge | I like \amethyst idea seems simple, will it work? |
| 02:28.23 | DeadFishMan | My touchpad no longer respond to tap or side scrolling after an X update that I ran yesterday on Debian Sid. It still works as a basic pointer device, though. But I need to resort to the physical button to 'click'. Any ideas? |
| 02:28.29 | gaintsura | TheSarge: try and see |
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| 02:29.00 | justin__ | i have been playing around for days. i got everything built for the nvidia driver, i used the config script it recommends even tried to fix the bugs in it, i used free drivers. i have tried everything. if anyone has an idea im willing to try it but after that im done i cant spend days configuring an xserver |
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| 02:31.03 | TheSarge | \amethyst: How can I test this after I changed it on tty1 w/o restarting? |
| 02:31.04 | Coweater | DeadFishMan: http://www.perrier.eu.org/weblog/2009/04/14 |
| 02:31.28 | DeadFishMan | Coweater: I will take a look at it. Thanks! |
| 02:31.30 | Xenguy | justin__: I feel your pain. After upgrading to lenny, the nvidia driver was offering this horrible resolution. Fortunately when I tried the 'nv' driver, it worked like a charm (I don't care about all that 3D stuff) |
| 02:31.30 | TheSarge | init 1 then init 3? Will that respawn my ttys? |
| 02:32.09 | justin__ | Xenguy: i have tried the nv driver and even vesa. when xserver loads the monitor doesnt get anything at all until i switch to another tty |
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| 02:32.54 | justin__ | Xenguy: ubuntu picks it up and installs the restricted driver in 3 seconds flat, no problem. i dont see why debian cant at least have a decent way to install the driver manually |
| 02:33.27 | DeadFishMan | Coweater: Oh, OK... I think I've seen that tip elsewhere. I will try it now. However, the page only mentions restoring the tapping. Any ideas if it also restore the scrolling as well? |
| 02:33.30 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 02:33.30 | jaggz | why's debian come up with a different network config than I requested? |
| 02:33.30 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (ie. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 02:33.44 | TheSarge | no it doesnt work :( |
| 02:33.50 | jaggz | after netinst it's trying to use someone else's network WITH MY key still |
| 02:33.59 | justin__ | abrotman: been there, i have google ;) |
| 02:34.16 | justin__ | Xenguy: mind pastebining your xorg.conf so i can see if im doing something stupid? |
| 02:34.18 | jaggz | and in etc/network/interfaces it shows my essid.. but in iwconfig it shows it's trying to use another's |
| 02:34.22 | jaggz | slut |
| 02:34.28 | Xenguy | justin__: well it worked quite nicely in etch, it was only when I upgraded to lenny that a problem appeared, and it is certainly possible that I am missing something too -- in any case, I am happy to run the free driver if I can (it did not work well in etch for me). So you tried the 'nv' driver already? |
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| 02:34.57 | Xenguy | justin__: sure, I can share my xorg.conf |
| 02:35.00 | justin__ | Xenguy: yes but im not too familiar with GUI configurations. some example code would help |
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| 02:35.30 | TheSarge | gaintsura: It worked! but when I get in screen I am getting a sh prompt instead of bash? |
| 02:35.32 | justin__ | Xenguy: i prefer free drivers but resort to closed on personal machines. only on servers am i the zealous no closed code type lol |
| 02:35.33 | sonnie | hi, i'm trying to setup bigdesktop for ATI X1550 on testing |
| 02:35.36 | Xenguy | dpkg: pastebin |
| 02:35.36 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
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| 02:36.13 | sonnie | my commands and xorg.conf are pasted in http://pastebin.com/m634f522a |
| 02:36.15 | maxagaz | hi |
| 02:36.32 | TheSarge | \amethyst: Thanks, it worked, but now I get sh prompt instead of bash... how can I fix this? |
| 02:37.07 | TheSarge | oh can I do chsh /bin/screen /bin/bash ? |
| 02:37.10 | sonnie | but I only got "clone" one. |
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| 02:37.26 | Xenguy | justin__: bear with me - I'm working on a pastebin here... |
| 02:37.40 | justin__ | Xenguy: thanks so much :) |
| 02:37.58 | justin__ | Xenguy: brb, reconnecting in a screen |
| 02:38.02 | justin__ | \quit |
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| 02:38.41 | justin__ | Xenguy: back :) |
| 02:39.41 | gaintsura | TheSarge: I'm really not sure, I stick with bash, serves me well |
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| 02:40.05 | TheSarge | gaintsura: I want to use bash... inside of screen |
| 02:40.16 | Xenguy | justin__: http://paste.debian.net/33514 |
| 02:41.01 | gaintsura | hmm... got me, I haven't played with any of that |
| 02:42.39 | justin__ | Xenguy: thank you, with a bit of reconfiguring that might work :) |
| 02:42.52 | justin__ | just gotta remember how to download it in lynx lol |
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| 02:43.51 | gaintsura | besides /proc and /dev what other locations should be skipped during backup? |
| 02:44.30 | Xenguy | justin__: good luck, let us know how it goes |
| 02:46.13 | Xenguy | justin__: copy/paste to a text editor? |
| 02:46.28 | Xenguy | justin__: oh you don't have X... |
| 02:46.50 | Xenguy | justin__: lynx -dump http://blah.html > blah.txt |
| 02:46.58 | Xenguy | justin__: then edit to taste |
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| 02:48.32 | justin__ | Xenguy: ah i forgot about that. i was using print to file :) |
| 02:48.52 | justin__ | Xenguy: thank you so much, im comparing the files and seeing what needs to edited. |
| 02:49.06 | Kobaz | Starting system message bus: dbus. |
| 02:49.07 | Kobaz | xargs: xargs.c:444: main: Assertion `bc_ctl.arg_max <= (131072-2048)' failed. |
| 02:49.11 | Kobaz | anyone know what might be the problem? |
| 02:49.16 | TheSarge | what is PAm authentecation? I am trying to run chsh and its asking for a password even know I am root, and if I type the root password it says PAM authentication failed? |
| 02:49.34 | Xenguy | justin__: have fun, and good luck |
| 02:49.35 | Kobaz | TheSarge: plugable authentication module |
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| 02:49.49 | TheSarge | Kobaz: so why is this happening? |
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| 02:50.03 | Kobaz | theDoc: using the wrong authentication method? |
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| 02:50.26 | TheSarge | authentication method? I am just running chsh? |
| 02:50.48 | Kobaz | in your pam configuration |
| 02:50.49 | DeadFishMan | Coweater: Thanks for the tip. It did not work. It seems as the settings on xorg.conf are not being respected or are simply being ignored. |
| 02:51.23 | DeadFishMan | Coweater: If I turn on those options plus the scrolling options manually through synclient, it work, though. |
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| 02:51.58 | DeadFishMan | Coweater: I got both tapping an side scrolling working on the touchpad this way. |
| 02:52.02 | zms | I am trying to upgrade xfce4 from 4.4 to 4.6 on Sid. It says it depends on xfce4-settigs which is a virtual package and does not upgrade. I waited for about a week thinking the packages are still coming... Should I file a bug about this? |
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| 02:52.49 | TheSarge | Kobaz: This started happening after I did chsh -s to an invalid shell... now i can't change it back, cause it keeps asking me for a password... did just break my system? |
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| 02:53.47 | Kobaz | TheSarge: edit /etc/passwd and you can fix the shell |
| 02:54.59 | TheSarge | Kobaz: how can I edit it? Everything I run as root is asking for a password? |
| 02:55.11 | TheSarge | oh wait |
| 02:55.26 | enouf | if shadowed passwds are in use, and they are, henve; PAM |
| 02:55.30 | Kobaz | if you have a root login, load up your favorite text editor |
| 02:55.34 | enouf | hence* |
| 02:55.54 | enouf | see /etc/{g}shadow |
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| 02:56.04 | enouf | also /etc/pam.d/* |
| 02:56.05 | Kobaz | you need to edit /etc/passwd to fix the shell |
| 02:57.08 | enouf | if you screwed up root's passwd/shell/login ; /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 02:57.37 | TheSarge | Kobaz: Thanks man whew |
| 02:57.49 | Kobaz | heh |
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| 02:58.19 | TheSarge | Kobaz: I want to make the default shell screen but with the option -s /bin/bash |
| 02:58.52 | Kobaz | yeah that doesn't work very well |
| 02:59.10 | Kobaz | run screen in your .bashrc |
| 02:59.18 | bluejeans | good evening debian |
| 02:59.22 | smacnay | Is nvidia-glx 180-xx in sid awaiting the nvidia-kernel-180.xx package? |
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| 02:59.52 | Kobaz | TheSarge: you can do it that way, but there's some extra options you need, i forget |
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| 03:00.09 | TheSarge | Kobaz: Ya everyone keeps saying that, but I looked at the .bashrc and I can't make any sense of it.... I dunno what to put or where |
| 03:00.27 | Kobaz | it's like autoexec.bat for dos |
| 03:00.32 | Kobaz | you just put shell stuff in there |
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| 03:00.42 | TheSarge | and I would need to change the .bashrc for each user right? |
| 03:00.43 | Kobaz | ie: you can just add a single line: screen |
| 03:00.55 | Kobaz | you want all your users to launch screen by default? |
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| 03:01.00 | Kobaz | are you trying to spy on your users? |
| 03:01.06 | TheSarge | Kobaz: Yes especially root |
| 03:01.13 | Xenguy | TheSarge: or /etc/profile for a global configuration (I think) |
| 03:01.19 | Kobaz | ttysnoop |
| 03:01.22 | TheSarge | This machine is used by 3 users all locally lol |
| 03:01.29 | enouf | see ~/.bash_profile |
| 03:01.47 | enouf | for ssh userss logged in ttysnoop |
| 03:01.49 | TheSarge | enouf: I am trying to do it for all users see above lol |
| 03:02.00 | TheSarge | I dont want to snoop on anyone |
| 03:02.02 | Kobaz | heh |
| 03:02.13 | TheSarge | we just all like screen and dont want to have to call it everytime |
| 03:02.17 | Kobaz | echo "screen" >> ~/.bashrc |
| 03:02.22 | Kobaz | done |
| 03:02.28 | enouf | er .. [22:59:47] <Kobaz> are you trying to spy on your users? |
| 03:02.28 | enouf | [22:59:53] <TheSarge> Kobaz: Yes especially root |
| 03:02.31 | Kobaz | you dont even need the quotes |
| 03:02.36 | TheSarge | For all users including root? |
| 03:02.38 | Kobaz | enouf: haha yeah, that's how i read it |
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| 03:03.25 | Xenguy | TheSarge: well if it is only 3 users, then whatever works :-) |
| 03:03.27 | enouf | TheSarge: root has it's own stuff in ... wait for it ... yep .. in /root/ |
| 03:03.37 | TheSarge | Kobaz: Will i need to run that for each user? is there a way to do this globally? |
| 03:03.42 | Kobaz | /etc/bashrc (or /etc/bash.bashrc) |
| 03:03.50 | Kobaz | depending which debian release you have |
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| 03:03.53 | TheSarge | which one? |
| 03:03.54 | martian67 | or /etc/profile |
| 03:03.57 | TheSarge | oh okay |
| 03:03.58 | Kobaz | or /etc/profile |
| 03:04.04 | enouf | there's usually already a /root/.profile there, but you can create add dotfiles |
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| 03:04.10 | Kobaz | but then the problem with putting it in /etc/profile |
| 03:04.14 | TheSarge | So how do I now which one to edit? I am running Debian 5 |
| 03:04.20 | Kobaz | it will get run when someone logs in remotely via like ssh or rsync |
| 03:04.32 | Kobaz | TheSarge: which ever one exists |
| 03:04.34 | TheSarge | know |
| 03:04.47 | Kobaz | if /etc/bashrc doesnt exist, edit /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 03:04.59 | TheSarge | ok |
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| 03:05.08 | Kobaz | ssh user@remotebox ls |
| 03:05.16 | Kobaz | you don't want screen running, when someone does that |
| 03:05.34 | TheSarge | This box is used locally only |
| 03:05.39 | enouf | shit gets sourced man .. read the files |
| 03:05.53 | TheSarge | huh sourced? |
| 03:06.09 | TheSarge | God you guys are the most confusing bunch of people. |
| 03:06.16 | Kobaz | heh |
| 03:06.25 | TheSarge | But helpful, thx |
| 03:06.29 | enouf | yeah .. all the ". ~bashrc" type lines you see ... |
| 03:06.34 | Kobaz | we've been using linux for a really long time... is the issue |
| 03:06.35 | enouf | er |
| 03:07.21 | enouf | yeah .. all the ". ~/.bashrc" type lines you see ... |
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| 03:07.59 | TheSarge | Kobaz: I tried it, logged in and got... /var/run/screen/S-root/3135.pts-0.Beefix: No such file or directory |
| 03:08.20 | Kobaz | TheSarge: well, something is screwy them |
| 03:08.32 | TheSarge | lol nothing is ever simple for me |
| 03:08.46 | TheSarge | something is screwy then? Okay? |
| 03:08.58 | enouf | TheSarge: not that it'll help now, but pts == pseudo terminal slave |
| 03:09.05 | Kobaz | i dunno, is screen fully installed? |
| 03:09.16 | TheSarge | yes I am using it now |
| 03:09.20 | TheSarge | inside of x |
| 03:09.24 | enouf | which is what a VC is when X is running |
| 03:09.30 | enouf | ugh |
| 03:09.51 | Kobaz | do you use a login shell for your terminals? |
| 03:10.03 | Kobaz | actually, that shouldn't matter |
| 03:10.03 | TheSarge | Kobaz: Okay it works in a VT |
| 03:10.10 | TheSarge | So thats all i wanted |
| 03:10.16 | TheSarge | I sont normally work in x |
| 03:10.21 | enouf | TheSarge: to see what i mean; "ps aux | grep pts" and compare that with "ps aux | grep tty" |
| 03:10.23 | TheSarge | So i dont care if it doesnt work in x |
| 03:10.39 | TheSarge | As long as it works in console and it does |
| 03:10.40 | Kobaz | if screen is set up right, it will work in any terminal |
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| 03:10.54 | martian67 | if its in bashrc |
| 03:10.56 | martian67 | it wont ever run on login |
| 03:11.02 | TheSarge | Kobaz: it was brobably cause i was trying to run screen from inside screen |
| 03:11.15 | TheSarge | martian67: it just did.... |
| 03:11.17 | WormFood | hi Kobaz |
| 03:11.32 | Kobaz | ooo |
| 03:11.41 | enouf | TheSarge: start here http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.27/Documentation/devices.txt#L3225 :-) |
| 03:11.55 | Kobaz | enouf: the poor guy's head is going to explode |
| 03:12.06 | Kobaz | WormFood: we need more bots in the chan |
| 03:12.10 | enouf | Kobaz: you're making me excited ;-) |
| 03:12.11 | TheSarge | Ya seriously it works, what is the problem? |
| 03:12.14 | WormFood | I found the weirdest problem yesterday....I just bought a new phone, a Nokia N85....If I boot with the phone connected, my fuckin' keyboard won't work in grub (think it won't work in the bios too) |
| 03:12.24 | Kobaz | WormFood: weird |
| 03:12.41 | TheSarge | I went to tty1 logged in as root, and was at the screen welcome screen |
| 03:12.41 | WormFood | Kobaz, yeah, I'll setup another bot as soon as I get some spare time...I already have a shell |
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| 03:12.44 | Kobaz | WormFood: i have some odd problems when i playing with the firmware on my razr |
| 03:12.56 | Kobaz | WormFood: i'll set up a bot too, if you link it in |
| 03:13.01 | TheSarge | So that means everything is okay right? |
| 03:13.02 | Kobaz | WormFood: need to run getops |
| 03:13.37 | WormFood | Kobaz, you're on my bot, right? |
| 03:13.48 | Kobaz | WormFood: if i monkey with the firmware on my razr and them power cycle the phone, it will come up unauthorized charger |
| 03:13.51 | Kobaz | WormFood: don't think so |
| 03:15.14 | WormFood | unauthorized charger? that is totally gay! |
| 03:15.19 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 03:15.27 | WormFood | are they trying to lock you into their charger? |
| 03:15.30 | Kobaz | i need to reboot the pc and then it will link up on usb again |
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| 03:15.55 | Kobaz | no it's not locked... the firmware editing software is borked up or something |
| 03:16.01 | WormFood | it sounds it |
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| 03:16.25 | Kobaz | but yeah it's semi-locked kinda.... |
| 03:16.31 | Kobaz | if you don't have the usb drivers, it won't charge |
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| 03:17.01 | WormFood | so you have to charge it under winblows? |
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| 03:17.23 | TheSarge | Okay its working |
| 03:17.35 | TheSarge | except screen wont let me create anymore screens wtf |
| 03:17.44 | TheSarge | says no more windows |
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| 03:18.27 | Kobaz | WormFood: yeap |
| 03:18.54 | Kobaz | TheSarge: man screen |
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| 03:19.08 | WormFood | Kobaz, that sounds like grounds for a lawsuit |
| 03:19.27 | Kobaz | TheSarge: i don't use screen for much more than keeping background apps going, so, i dunno |
| 03:19.28 | TheSarge | Kobaz: I know howto use screen |
| 03:19.32 | Kobaz | WormFood: you can use a wall charger |
| 03:19.52 | TheSarge | Kobaz at least I thought I did doesnt C-a c still spawn a new window? |
| 03:19.54 | Kobaz | i dunno, it's motorola... who knows what loopholes they are taking advantage of |
| 03:20.09 | WormFood | at least I can charge my phone, and do data transfers with it at the same time |
| 03:20.26 | Kobaz | yeah me too |
| 03:20.31 | Kobaz | if you have the driver... heh |
| 03:20.38 | Kobaz | or plug it into the wall, and use bluetooth |
| 03:20.55 | WormFood | I looked at those phones...glad I didn't get one |
| 03:21.42 | Kobaz | it's a pretty cool phone, for being a regular phone |
| 03:21.57 | WormFood | I've been happy with my N85, except for 2 things.....1. it MOVED my contacts from my sim card to the phone...not just copy them, deleted them off the phone...and 2. I don't like the way the keys are layed out...because I type without looking at the keypad a lot (like when I'm walking down the street) |
| 03:22.12 | WormFood | I mean, deleted them off the sim card |
| 03:22.24 | Kobaz | ghetto |
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| 03:22.30 | WormFood | then, when I do a software reset on the phone to fix some problem, it lost all my contacts |
| 03:22.36 | Kobaz | mine's a cdma phone, doesn't have a sim |
| 03:22.51 | WormFood | of course, I'm sure I screwed up something, but it wasn't obvious |
| 03:23.03 | WormFood | Kobaz, I think ALL the phones in China support a sim card |
| 03:23.31 | Kobaz | cdma is only pretty much in the us |
| 03:23.46 | Kobaz | best network is cdma over here... for the rest of the world it's gsm (with sim cards) |
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| 03:24.45 | martian67 | Kobaz, canada, auz and china too |
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| 03:25.11 | WormFood | ok, I have to boot into windows, so I can try to copy my contacts from my backup of my old phone, onto my new phone....talk with you later Kobaz |
| 03:25.45 | Kobaz | have fun |
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| 03:32.53 | Yi_ | hi, all, when I apt-get dist-upgrade, I can't install gnome now, |
| 03:33.26 | Yi_ | I hearded that gnome is upgrade from 2.22 to 2.24, |
| 03:33.43 | Yi_ | is that? |
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| 03:34.57 | Yi_ | ? |
| 03:35.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | !info gnome-core |
| 03:35.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | wakey wakey dpkg |
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| 03:35.56 | dpkg | gnome-core: (The GNOME Desktop Environment -- essential components), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.24.3~1 (sid), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 20 kB |
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| 03:40.11 | TheSarge | Finally my system is starting to work like I want |
| 03:40.23 | TheSarge | I can log straight into screen |
| 03:40.44 | TheSarge | I know how to use screen, I know how to use elinks irssi finch |
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| 03:42.40 | rsmith16384 | whats hapnin |
| 03:43.12 | Yi_ | I hearded that gnome is upgrade from 2.22 to 2.24, is it???????????????? |
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| 03:43.48 | TheSarge | lol and no one cares, lol I am sure I wouldn't either, but I am happy. |
| 03:44.20 | TheSarge | Only one thing left, I want a non x grub entry and an x grub entry... is this possible? |
| 03:44.27 | rsmith16384 | 2.26 |
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| 03:45.30 | Yi_ | rsmith16384: to 2.26?? |
| 03:45.48 | rsmith16384 | http://www.gnome.org/ |
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| 03:47.47 | smacnay | wow - is tracker ever borked right now - I search for *-1.jpg and come up with 30000+ hits and most have nothing to do with .jpg files |
| 03:48.04 | TheSarge | whats the diff between a 486 kernel and a 686 kernel? |
| 03:48.14 | pl4yer0ne | 2 |
| 03:48.20 | rsmith16384 | sse sse2 3dnow ect |
| 03:48.32 | TheSarge | oh |
| 03:48.55 | TheSarge | lol i used 486 |
| 03:48.59 | TheSarge | oh well it works well |
| 03:50.11 | rsmith16384 | linux from scatch? |
| 03:50.22 | TheSarge | debian |
| 03:50.37 | rsmith16384 | building it from the ground up? |
| 03:50.38 | TheSarge | the installer asked what kernel ti use |
| 03:50.43 | rsmith16384 | oh |
| 03:50.56 | enouf | TheSarge: in the -486 NOHIGHMEM=y is set |
| 03:51.21 | TheSarge | didnt even offer generic, just 686 or 486 |
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| 03:51.49 | TheSarge | enouf: i have no clue what that means |
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| 03:52.05 | enouf | use -686 if you have a p-pro or better CPU |
| 03:53.07 | enouf | and more than 1G of RAM installed |
| 03:53.29 | TheSarge | too late |
| 03:53.39 | TheSarge | system works fine though |
| 03:54.02 | TheSarge | I only have one gig and a celeron |
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| 03:54.48 | tux4prez | hi |
| 03:55.30 | rsmith16384 | hola |
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| 03:55.52 | enouf | celeries span many pentium generations |
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| 03:56.36 | enouf | well .. atleast a few |
| 03:58.25 | martian67 | enouf, every one but the first |
| 03:58.25 | martian67 | well first and second if you count p-pros as a second gen |
| 03:58.35 | rsmith16384 | can anyone recommend a distro for m daughter that will allow for at least directx 7 emulation? |
| 03:58.44 | TheSarge | its a 2ghz celeron |
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| 03:59.41 | enouf | that's p4 era celery |
| 03:59.50 | KC | it lives! |
| 04:00.25 | KC | how would I go about getting a package added to the repo? |
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| 04:01.47 | TheSarge | lol my roommate just paid 50 bux for a 500hmz emachine with 128mb of ram |
| 04:02.25 | enouf | i find those at the curb for free - heck i found a dual xeon p4 dell server for free ;-) |
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| 04:03.14 | enouf | TheSarge: but this machine (my main one) is a 350MHz p2 w/512 RAM, 100FSB |
| 04:03.28 | Kobaz | for 150 you can buy a motherboard/cpu/ram for a dual core 2ghz |
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| 04:05.21 | TheSarge | Ya the place I used to work at sells rebuilt comps from recycled parts, and you can get like a 3ghz AMD 1GB DDR for about 60 bux |
| 04:05.26 | spersaud | enouf: are you serious ? ... thats like since 1997 |
| 04:05.35 | TheSarge | total machine, including 17" display |
| 04:05.42 | spersaud | or 95 |
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| 04:05.53 | module000 | 95 was 133mhz max |
| 04:06.42 | TheSarge | I want 700 bux to build my dual quad core 8GB system |
| 04:07.00 | spersaud | I guess it still runs, but slowwww ........ my amdx2 3800+ is slow by today's standards |
| 04:07.43 | Kobaz | i was thinking of building a 4 way quadcore box so i can run firefox at decent speeds |
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| 04:07.55 | liable | hah |
| 04:08.01 | spersaud | Kobaz: :) add a lot of memory too |
| 04:08.08 | Kobaz | yeah like 64 gigs |
| 04:08.14 | TheSarge | Ya my firefox, err iceweasel is slow as hell |
| 04:08.24 | Kobaz | firefox runs better on slower hardware |
| 04:08.34 | Kobaz | my 1.6ghz laptop flys with firefox2 |
| 04:08.35 | TheSarge | Not mine |
| 04:08.47 | TheSarge | I have a 1.7 1GB Ram and its slow as all hell |
| 04:08.57 | simonrvn | sees the e-penis discussion going on and wanders away again |
| 04:08.58 | TheSarge | 266fsb |
| 04:09.02 | module000 | my firefox runs fine, stop buying into slashdot groupthink if it seems slow |
| 04:09.06 | Kobaz | yet firefox 3.0.x and 3.1 are terrible on my dual core 2.8ghz desktop |
| 04:09.30 | Kobaz | no it really is slow |
| 04:09.36 | Kobaz | firefox on linux is pretty crappy in general |
| 04:09.48 | TheSarge | Kobaz: What do you reccomend/ |
| 04:09.51 | TheSarge | Opera? |
| 04:09.57 | Kobaz | ditch the web alltogether |
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| 04:10.06 | Kobaz | use gopher |
| 04:10.12 | enouf | spersaud: 1999-2000 |
| 04:10.34 | Kobaz | chrome is looking pretty nice |
| 04:10.38 | Kobaz | webkit is *really* fast |
| 04:10.55 | Kobaz | i played with the chrome linux port that the guys at crossover did |
| 04:10.57 | Kobaz | it was impressive |
| 04:10.58 | TheSarge | lol I use elinks but for websites with pictures and such, embedded video, js, java etc... whats a good linux browser? |
| 04:11.07 | enouf | !links2 |
| 04:11.07 | dpkg | links2 is, like, a text and graphics browser with https and javascript. http://packages.debian.org/links2, or for using in Console as GUI (with mouse and keys support), see /usr/share/doc/links2/README.Debian (so you can use as regular non-root user when running in Console in GUI mode) Ask me about <links2 settings> |
| 04:11.10 | Kobaz | chrome running under wine, was 10 times faster than firefox 3 native on linux |
| 04:11.12 | spersaud | enouf: I had a p3 before then, P3 500 mhz ... had to be like 98 |
| 04:11.15 | enouf | ftw \o/ |
| 04:11.24 | enouf | spersaud: no |
| 04:11.41 | enouf | spersaud: 99 perhaps |
| 04:11.49 | TheSarge | But does Links 2 do embedded video and java? |
| 04:11.52 | Kobaz | chrome is the future |
| 04:12.00 | Kobaz | the firefox crew is behind |
| 04:12.01 | Gun_Smoke | fuck no |
| 04:12.04 | enouf | TheSarge: embedded sucks ass |
| 04:12.11 | TheSarge | So is chromium a good choice untill native chrome comes? |
| 04:12.20 | Gun_Smoke | Kobaz, read the eula for chrome? |
| 04:12.29 | TheSarge | Okay embedded sucks thats great but I use it... |
| 04:12.37 | enouf | !youtube script |
| 04:12.38 | dpkg | it has been said that youtube script is see http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=MPlayer_youtube_script so you can instantly watch youtube videos using mplayer No need for big BLOATED browsers and their Plugins and Extensions.. Recently updated (August 09 2008 - thanks amphi) added versatility and improved functionality. An alternate is the 'youtube-dl' pkg |
| 04:13.05 | TheSarge | I am not talking about youtube |
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| 04:13.20 | Kobaz | Gun_Smoke: yeah it sucks :( |
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| 04:13.22 | Kobaz | if chrome had multi-row tabs i would switch right now |
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| 04:13.23 | TheSarge | I am talking about the other million video sites i may use at any time... |
| 04:13.31 | KC | :D |
| 04:13.41 | KC | wait |
| 04:13.41 | enouf | TheSarge: and what format are the POS vids in? |
| 04:13.44 | KC | mplayer :( |
| 04:14.02 | Gun_Smoke | "7.3 Google reserves the right (but shall have no obligation) to pre-screen, review, flag, filter, modify, refuse or remove any or all Content from any Service. For some of the Services, Google may provide tools to filter out explicit sexual content." 7.3 |
| 04:14.04 | TheSarge | enouf: flv mostly I am guessing |
| 04:14.10 | TheSarge | sometimes google |
| 04:14.14 | enouf | TheSarge: well .. DUH! |
| 04:14.27 | enouf | follow the factoid url |
| 04:14.41 | TheSarge | I want to use a fu%^ing browser |
| 04:14.51 | enouf | meh .. anyways, who cares |
| 04:15.13 | enouf | your browser choices suck ass - they are bloated behemoths |
| 04:15.16 | TheSarge | You guys are crazy acting like using a browser is a bad thing... |
| 04:15.17 | enouf | ;-) |
| 04:15.39 | Kobaz | gopher ftw |
| 04:15.52 | TheSarge | How can I run chrome with wine, is it a long drawn out proccess? |
| 04:16.02 | enouf | most web sites suck ass .. due to webdev wannabee "Look at me, i'mMr. Framework" |
| 04:16.02 | Kobaz | TheSarge: nope, download chromium from the crossover peoples |
| 04:16.10 | TheSarge | Or is Chromium prettty good? |
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| 04:16.19 | Kobaz | chromium is highly bets |
| 04:16.21 | Kobaz | beta |
| 04:16.26 | enouf | wine? drink it - never install it :-P |
| 04:16.40 | TheSarge | So its broke? |
| 04:16.43 | TheSarge | too bad its installed by default lol |
| 04:16.44 | Kobaz | no |
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| 04:16.49 | Kobaz | just very beta |
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| 04:17.28 | TheSarge | So you would reccomend emulating chrome, even on a 1.7ghz 266fsb 1GB ddr? |
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| 04:19.18 | Kobaz | i would recommend firefox2, honestly |
| 04:19.25 | Kobaz | it's one of the fastest firefox's on linux |
| 04:19.40 | TheSarge | Thats what I am running, and it blows ass |
| 04:19.52 | Kobaz | but make sure you restart it at least once a day, because it will suck up all your memory |
| 04:20.06 | pab__ | hi all! What's the statis of 64bit? Are most things available? |
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| 04:20.28 | Kobaz | pab__: everything is available |
| 04:20.56 | Kobaz | pad_: 64bit x86 has 32bit support, so you can run 32bit stuff on a 64bit kernel |
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| 04:21.18 | TheSarge | Kobaz: it leaks? |
| 04:21.33 | Kobaz | oh yeah |
| 04:21.38 | TheSarge | Why the hell would I wanna use a leaky browser, my system is already fulla issues as it is |
| 04:21.48 | Kobaz | all firefox versions leak |
| 04:21.51 | Kobaz | some more than others |
| 04:22.06 | pab__ | no more chroot? whoa...yea....I'll give it another try |
| 04:22.09 | Kobaz | 3.1b3 seems to leak the least |
| 04:22.13 | TheSarge | Like something in dmsg says one of my ata drives is missing pins and can only use some weird mode, and something is clocking my proc down? wtf is up with that? |
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| 04:23.37 | TheSarge | I am using 2.2.23 is there a better version? |
| 04:23.47 | charitwo | !ops GoodBye |
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| 04:24.47 | Kobaz | yay |
| 04:25.30 | TheSarge | Kobaz: I need a better browser than ff 2.2.23? |
| 04:25.53 | Kobaz | good luck |
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| 04:27.17 | TheSarge | Seriously? |
| 04:27.30 | Kobaz | you can try opera, but i dunno |
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| 04:28.06 | Kobaz | or you could just sit and relax, and watch some girls having fun: http://www.rockclimbing.com/videos/Trad/Girls_on_Parede__419.html |
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| 04:29.56 | TheSarge | How can I start x with just one program? |
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| 04:30.19 | simplechat | hey, just as an odd question |
| 04:30.33 | simplechat | i'm trying to get lcap installed in lenny, however there doesn't seem to be a package for it in lenny |
| 04:30.36 | simplechat | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lcap |
| 04:30.43 | simplechat | would would it be in etch and sid, but not lenny? |
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| 04:31.09 | simonrvn | !why is lcap not in testing |
| 04:31.09 | dpkg | lcap is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=lcap |
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| 04:31.26 | simonrvn | er, never mind that... bad habit |
| 04:31.33 | simonrvn | s/bad/old/ |
| 04:31.36 | simplechat | lol |
| 04:31.44 | simonrvn | :) |
| 04:31.52 | simplechat | but yeah, why was it in the old stable |
| 04:31.54 | simplechat | but not the new stable? |
| 04:32.04 | simonrvn | probably because it didn't make it into the release... it happens. |
| 04:32.23 | simplechat | ok, so any advice as to what would be the best way to install it |
| 04:32.28 | simplechat | so that it doesn't fail spectacularly later on? |
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| 04:32.41 | simonrvn | some packages for various reasons won't make it into the soon-to-be-released relase, when that time comes, so they get excluded. |
| 04:33.13 | simonrvn | so grab squeeze's and build it |
| 04:33.22 | simplechat | squeeze? |
| 04:33.28 | simonrvn | testing |
| 04:33.56 | simplechat | from where, just as a question |
| 04:34.03 | simplechat | atm packages.debian.org is timing out for me |
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| 04:35.09 | simonrvn | ah, so was git.d.o for me a few minutes ago... |
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| 04:36.02 | simplechat | ouch |
| 04:36.05 | simplechat | maybe another core router died? |
| 04:36.08 | simonrvn | simplechat: your mirror, in pool/ |
| 04:36.19 | simonrvn | *shrug* could be anything |
| 04:36.24 | simplechat | hmmmm |
| 04:36.34 | simplechat | simonrvn, well, i'm just using us. |
| 04:36.40 | theswellseason | quick question: if I want to add my windows partition to /etc/fstab, my entry would look something like this: http://pastebin.com/m2c51c246 |
| 04:36.42 | theswellseason | correct? |
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| 04:36.56 | simonrvn | crap, so go see .nl or somewhere |
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| 04:38.21 | simonrvn | theswellseason: no. specify a filesystem type. change the second auto to defaults (and maybe add ",user") . |
| 04:38.49 | theswellseason | user would simply allow me to access it w/o being root, right? |
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| 04:39.46 | simonrvn | would allow anyone to mount it yes. |
| 04:40.01 | simplechat | what exactly is lenny-volitile? |
| 04:40.05 | simonrvn | but ntfs and ntfs-3g have some special "needs" |
| 04:40.13 | theswellseason | but what if I want it to mount when I boot up? |
| 04:40.15 | theswellseason | oh |
| 04:40.16 | theswellseason | okay? |
| 04:40.19 | simonrvn | !volatile |
| 04:40.19 | dpkg | well, volatile is a project that aims at keeping the <stable> and <oldstable> distributions up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. http://volatile.debian.org/ An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free |
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| 04:40.52 | simonrvn | theswellseason: it will, that's why you either do "defaults,user,noauto" or "defaults" |
| 04:41.00 | theswellseason | okay |
| 04:41.11 | theswellseason | you say that ntfs has 'special needs' |
| 04:41.17 | simonrvn | !ntfs |
| 04:41.17 | dpkg | ntfs is, like, Windows NT File System. There are 3 main drivers in Debian: the Linux kernel driver only able to read and FUSE drivers able to write too. For information about the former, ask me about <ntfsro>. For information about the read/write access, ask me about <ntfsrw>. See also http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ , http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html , http://wiki.debian.org/NTFS |
| 04:41.26 | simonrvn | see man mount too |
| 04:41.42 | simonrvn | !tell theswellseason -about ntfs-3g |
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| 04:43.15 | simonrvn | the -3g is pretty neat, don't see a difference in speed at all. |
| 04:43.25 | simonrvn | !ops GoodBye dcc send crap |
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| 04:43.38 | simonrvn | sorry |
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| 04:43.43 | simonrvn | taken care of |
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| 04:44.06 | theswellseason | gosh, whoever came up with that bot is should get a pat on the back |
| 04:44.30 | simonrvn | Kretuli, Orphis, gog: get your router firmware fixed and upgraded |
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| 04:45.26 | TheSarge | I wrote dpkg |
| 04:45.42 | simonrvn | you did not |
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| 04:45.59 | simonrvn | i know who did |
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| 04:46.24 | ltunes001 | hi, does anyone know why my "aslaconf" could be removed from system? |
| 04:46.37 | ltunes001 | I mean, alsaconf.. |
| 04:46.45 | simonrvn | sorry, my crystal ball is broken |
| 04:47.38 | TheSarge | simonrvn: it was a joke. |
| 04:47.49 | TheSarge | I cant even use vim, like I could make a bot that cool |
| 04:48.19 | ltunes001 | I have sid, kernel 2.26-1, snd_hda_intel (ich7 family soundcard) ... well and it is recognized using hdspconf... |
| 04:48.41 | simonrvn | TheSarge: sorry, i thought you were being serious (easy to be dead pan in text only with no smilies ;) |
| 04:49.00 | TheSarge | simonrvn: Breaks out the :) Gun |
| 04:49.09 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 04:49.17 | theswellseason | I think someone should come out with a "sarcasm/joking" font, but that's off topic |
| 04:49.24 | TheSarge | Man is there an Irssi script that doesnt look like deep fried dog doo? |
| 04:49.25 | simonrvn | ltunes001: maybe that hdspconf conflicts with alsaconf? |
| 04:49.53 | TheSarge | Is there something like darkconf that I can install on my debian system? |
| 04:49.56 | simonrvn | ltunes001: apt-cache show hdspconf ; look at Conflicts: if any |
| 04:50.21 | ltunes001 | simonrvn, suddenly:) i do not have alsaconf.. even i have all packages like alsa-base, alsa-utils, alsa-oss... |
| 04:50.43 | simonrvn | alsaconf is an add-on, it's not essential. |
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| 04:50.54 | TheSarge | apt-cache is not working too well for me, anyone know the package name for opera? |
| 04:51.19 | TheSarge | I tried searching opera, and opera browser |
| 04:51.44 | ltunes001 | simonrvn, hdspconf is provided by alsa-tools-gui but i do not see any gui... |
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| 04:51.51 | ltunes001 | thats what i wonder |
| 04:52.02 | theswellseason | TheSarge, it's just opera |
| 04:52.10 | jaggz- | installing xfce4 .. that the proper way to get that in here? |
| 04:52.11 | TheSarge | oh wow |
| 04:52.38 | theswellseason | lol, we all have our moments ;D |
| 04:52.46 | ltunes001 | lol |
| 04:52.57 | TheSarge | E: Package opera has no installation candidate |
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| 04:53.08 | TheSarge | I have all repos enabled... |
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| 04:53.20 | charitwo | !ops arejay |
| 04:53.20 | theswellseason | oh god |
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| 04:53.41 | arejay | ? |
| 04:53.42 | ltunes001 | lol i feel like my system sucks most when i need it worst:) |
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| 04:53.51 | cr4z3d | arejay: don't send dcc requests at me |
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| 04:53.58 | wrin | What is the status of Free drivers for the Mobile Intel GMA 4500 MHD video card? |
| 04:53.59 | TheSarge | what did arejay do lol? |
| 04:54.12 | cr4z3d | dcc request from 0.0.0.0 to port 0 |
| 04:54.15 | theswellseason | simonrvn, I installed ntfs-3g. would this be a proper entry to /fstab? http://pastebin.com/m3f6ef34c |
| 04:54.16 | simonrvn | ltunes001: *shrug* . follow the deps and stuff, you'll find out eventually. |
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| 04:54.29 | martian67 | TheSarge, you need to enable non-free and restricted |
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| 04:54.39 | martian67 | in your /etc/apt/sources.lst |
| 04:54.48 | TheSarge | martian67: i did |
| 04:54.51 | maxagaz | can i set a password in the command line with smbldap-passwd ? |
| 04:55.04 | ltunes001 | simonrvn, eventually, maybe, if i have luck.. BUT HOW? how a package could disapear and no one notice? |
| 04:55.05 | maxagaz | i mean without having to wait for the request to set it |
| 04:55.37 | simonrvn | theswellseason: like i said, it's better to leave off the "user" there if no "noauto". |
| 04:55.44 | ltunes001 | lol, i have a lightning in my brain i remove all alsa-tools-gui (and hdspconf this way) |
| 04:55.48 | ltunes001 | ;) |
| 04:55.49 | ajavid | hola |
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| 04:56.02 | theswellseason | okay, thanks! |
| 04:56.07 | ajavid | why ! |
| 04:56.16 | ajavid | like a very excited thanks!! |
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| 04:56.22 | simonrvn | ltunes001: easy, a conflicts/replaces could kick in, and not watching the package install, it could easily go by unnoticed. |
| 04:56.39 | valdyn | alsaconf was removed from debian however |
| 04:57.37 | simonrvn | well, at least aptitude won't remove it if you have don't "auto-remove if unused" enabled. it is by default, so *poof*. |
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| 04:57.57 | ltunes001 | and i wonder u have same problem: my aptitude was maybe 3 days old and now it wants download like 500mb and had like 50conficts to resolve, i wonder if all them package people doing holidays like me:) |
| 04:58.02 | TheSarge | whats that de called xfde? |
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| 04:59.50 | Yi_ | my gnome is broken(2.24), but I can't install gnome by "apt-get isntall gnome", there is so much dependence package can't be installed, why? can some one give me some source list I can use to upgrade my gnome? |
| 05:00.30 | Yi_ | can some one help me???? |
| 05:00.45 | Yi_ | sign~ |
| 05:00.46 | ltunes001 | ok i have now an important questions i need help: |
| 05:00.47 | Manoj | try aptitude safe-upgrade |
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| 05:01.23 | Manoj | that might fix up the state of the machine. _then_ try installing new stuff |
| 05:01.33 | ltunes001 | snd-page-allocFATAL: Error inserting snd_seq_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/a/sound/core/seq/oss/snd-seq-oss.ko): Device or resource busy |
| 05:01.43 | ltunes001 | omg..!! |
| 05:02.06 | Yi_ | Manoj: when I do this, I got: 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 28 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 05:02.19 | Manoj | Yi_: ok? |
| 05:02.33 | ltunes001 | i feel like i got owned:( why is my sound busy? what is it doing if it is doing nothing:( |
| 05:02.40 | Manoj | Yi_: What packages get removed? |
| 05:03.22 | simonrvn | ltunes001: take it easy. just means something is using it. |
| 05:03.38 | jaggz- | how do I change my manager to kde? |
| 05:03.45 | Yi_ | Manoj: http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/92C5TPqO9C |
| 05:03.58 | Yi_ | Manoj: you can see the result from the url I pasted. |
| 05:04.02 | jaggz- | or xfce for that matter.. I have xfce4 installed now |
| 05:04.09 | Yi_ | Manoj: I think my gnome is broken... |
| 05:04.15 | simonrvn | jaggz-: what "manager"? |
| 05:04.29 | jaggz- | it's gnome right now |
| 05:04.39 | jaggz- | I'm uncomfortable in gnome |
| 05:04.42 | simonrvn | jaggz-: what "manager"? |
| 05:04.53 | Manoj | Yi_: Hmm. synaptic and wodim going is unusual, and perhaps scary |
| 05:05.07 | jaggz- | my wife.. she's my boss.. I want to change her to a more easily managed wie |
| 05:05.14 | jaggz- | wife |
| 05:05.24 | simonrvn | Manoj: borked sources.list i bet |
| 05:05.25 | Manoj | Yi_: have you done an aptitude update lately? |
| 05:05.26 | jaggz- | no, seriously, I want to get X to come up in KDE instead of gnome |
| 05:05.29 | ltunes001 | yep, simonrvn.. i am on holidays.. i want relax, do the code-writing stuff a time - off, but i need ,my music .. i need it badly:) like i have so many youtube clips runnin in my head i would like to play.. i will find who or what is using my sound and destroy it;) |
| 05:05.37 | simonrvn | jaggz-: so how is x getting started? |
| 05:06.04 | simonrvn | startx, gdm or such... |
| 05:06.04 | Manoj | Yi_: also, check your /etc/apt/sources.list; it is a good idea to have more than one source in there |
| 05:06.06 | jaggz- | I ran it with startx... since it came up with normal shell prompt after installing the os fresh. |
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| 05:06.16 | Yi_ | Manoj: yes, I try to use aptitude to update/install the package, but, no use, I can't install gnome... |
| 05:06.25 | jaggz- | if I reboot, now that debian installed many packages, it might default to an X login |
| 05:06.25 | meshuggah | hello |
| 05:06.30 | simonrvn | jaggz-: /msg dpkg /.xsession |
| 05:06.35 | jaggz- | thakns |
| 05:06.45 | jaggz- | sorry, nails are too long so typing is difficult |
| 05:06.46 | Yi_ | Manoj: can u give me your source.list? |
| 05:06.56 | simonrvn | jaggz-: set it to run the default debian session |
| 05:06.58 | meshuggah | i downloaded a .daa file, how can i open it ? mount ? |
| 05:07.07 | jaggz- | thanks |
| 05:07.10 | Manoj | Yi: I use Sid |
| 05:07.22 | Manoj | Yi: I also use an approx proxy |
| 05:07.25 | meshuggah | jaggz, cut them :) |
| 05:07.56 | simonrvn | jaggz-: erm, if your fresh upgrade did indeed install some ?dm thing, that is. otherwise the ~/.xsession will be fine. |
| 05:07.57 | Yi_ | Manoj: I use sid before, but when I dist-upgrade from the source.list, my gnome crashed beacasue of the package remove. |
| 05:08.15 | ltunes001 | ok now i am at the core of the bug, (i can even smell him) when i remove the sound modules like snd_hda_intel and stuff and then try reload alsa it says: |
| 05:08.19 | ltunes001 | Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload). |
| 05:08.23 | jaggz- | gdm wasn't installed.. I'll try xfce4 first.. I don't believe I've ever used it |
| 05:08.24 | TheSarge | whats that lightweight de called something like xfde? |
| 05:08.29 | jaggz- | mesh, ok |
| 05:08.31 | jaggz- | brb |
| 05:08.36 | simonrvn | ltunes001: ok, so modprobe snd_hda_intel |
| 05:08.41 | jaggz- | sarg, xfce[4] |
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| 05:08.43 | simonrvn | TheSarge: xfce |
| 05:08.52 | TheSarge | no the DE |
| 05:08.56 | meshuggah | jaggz : you will really do it :) |
| 05:08.59 | simonrvn | xfce3 is long dead ;). |
| 05:09.05 | meshuggah | jaggz : it was only a suggestion |
| 05:09.07 | simonrvn | TheSarge: yes, that's the name... |
| 05:09.25 | Manoj | Yi_: first: make sure your sources.list has more than one entry so that you do not rely on a single mirror; second, do an aptitude update, third, do an apt-get safe-upgrade |
| 05:09.28 | TheSarge | simonrvn: No I don't mean xfce I am thinking of something else |
| 05:09.36 | Manoj | Yi_: and then we'll see about installing gnome |
| 05:09.42 | ltunes001 | ok simonrvn, somehow i could start snd_hda_intel.. it goes but still no sound |
| 05:11.40 | simonrvn | ltunes001: start? you modprobe it like i told you. put it in /etc/modules after - just 'snd_hda_intel' (no quotes) |
| 05:11.47 | ltunes001 | well now, i have no more ideas.. i removed all that hdspconf crap and alsa-tools-gui i have all the needed alsa packages (base, utils, tools) but i have no command "alsaconf" no more |
| 05:12.05 | ltunes001 | ltunes001, yes, yes i modprobed it |
| 05:12.10 | ltunes001 | lol... |
| 05:12.12 | simonrvn | 00:56 < valdyn> alsaconf was removed from debian however |
| 05:12.36 | TheSarge | is Awesome supposed to only be a Gterm ran at full screen? |
| 05:13.52 | Yi_ | Manoj: sign, I do like you said, but I failed, you can see the result from here: http://www.privatepaste.com/d002nu5CgS |
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| 05:14.05 | Yi_ | Manoj: my source.list is: http://www.privatepaste.com/8fJMri1yGB |
| 05:14.11 | meshuggah | i have debian lenny, how can install acetoneiso |
| 05:14.49 | simonrvn | meshuggah: /msg dpkg ssd |
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| 05:15.54 | meshuggah | simonrvn, thank but it is not what i need, i want a program to open .daa file, acetoneiso is |
| 05:15.54 | Manoj | Yi_: I do not see what failed |
| 05:16.03 | Manoj | Yi_: let it remove those packages |
| 05:16.24 | simonrvn | Yi_: you should have a security source in there too |
| 05:16.25 | meshuggah | simonrvn, my computer is really old, no i dont have ssd in it....3 x 40 gig ..:)) |
| 05:16.45 | Manoj | Yi_: I would be happier with at least one more mirror, too -- you have only two of them, which is better than just one, but three would be even better |
| 05:16.50 | simonrvn | meshuggah: that's how you get acetoneiso onto it... |
| 05:16.51 | meshuggah | can i download an ubuntu package without problem ? |
| 05:17.10 | meshuggah | simonrvn, uh..ok..wait a mintue..:) |
| 05:17.10 | simonrvn | meshuggah: no, do that "/msg dpkg ssd" here, in irc |
| 05:17.11 | Manoj | Yi_: and yes, you should have security updates in that list |
| 05:17.18 | meshuggah | simonrvn yes i did |
| 05:17.29 | simonrvn | meshuggah: don't mix and match, you can all too easily break stuff |
| 05:17.47 | TheSarge | Is there a website that has a good review of most DE/WM's? |
| 05:17.49 | meshuggah | simonrvn, thank for the advice |
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| 05:18.00 | Manoj | Yi: http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/sources.list is what I use on this machine |
| 05:18.01 | TheSarge | like a review with screenshots and a summary? |
| 05:18.04 | ltunes001 | ok simonrvn, i see the bugreport, but what is the replacement for alsaconf? |
| 05:18.22 | simonrvn | i don't know. i don't think there is one. |
| 05:18.23 | ltunes001 | it's like xserver-xorg, just for sound |
| 05:18.32 | Yi_ | simonrvn: can you give me some source.list? thankx |
| 05:18.32 | simonrvn | i haven't used that in 3 years or more. |
| 05:18.44 | simonrvn | Yi_: Manoj just gave you one. |
| 05:18.48 | Yi_ | Manoj: let me try your sources. |
| 05:18.59 | Yi_ | simonrvn: ok, thanks, I will try it now |
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| 05:19.21 | Manoj | Yi_: Careful. firstly, I use sid, I live in the US, and I use approx --- my sources.list might be an ill fit for you |
| 05:19.34 | simonrvn | Manoj: how are you, btw? nice to see you come around. |
| 05:19.42 | Manoj | Yi_: I meant you to use it as an example, no more |
| 05:20.02 | ltunes001 | hmm, i can use an unofficial package cross compiled from whrere the h3ll knows but how you guys do it without alsaconf? |
| 05:20.13 | simonrvn | yeh, don't cut and paste stuff - using discretion is always good. |
| 05:20.27 | Manoj | simonrvn: oh, getting back a bit into hacking on Debian. I am still not into doing a whole lot, like I used to (I just take care of my packages now) |
| 05:20.31 | simonrvn | ltunes001: easy |
| 05:20.46 | ltunes001 | x_X? |
| 05:20.51 | simonrvn | Manoj: that's cool. gotta take care of yourself too, eh :). |
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| 05:21.11 | Yi_ | Manoj: ok, i know...thanks |
| 05:21.21 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, but what dpkg say me, dont concern my problem, unless i am way more newbie that i think i am i dont know if u got my msg, if yes, sorry for double posting |
| 05:21.39 | simonrvn | i did see your message |
| 05:21.46 | meshuggah_ | so, sorry to everyone |
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| 05:22.08 | simonrvn | no worries - not your fault probably |
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| 05:22.19 | meshuggah_ | irc was lagging, so i reconnected |
| 05:22.49 | ltunes001 | meshuggah, dont feel sorry, tell your neighbour you hack his email if you feel sad:) |
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| 05:23.22 | reap3r | Hey, I am looking for a .deb package of the compat-wireless-old driver |
| 05:23.54 | reap3r | its for a eeepc 1000HE. its a friends. the wired and wireless do not work. im using GOS |
| 05:23.56 | ltunes001 | reap3r, why not buy a new shiny prism card :D? |
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| 05:24.25 | reap3r | i tried to build one on my mint machine but says i need a newer package because of my kernal |
| 05:24.30 | simonrvn | what's "GOS"? |
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| 05:24.31 | meshuggah_ | ok, i downloaded acetoneiso source, i want to install it the good way how do i do that(usually i do tar -xvf file.tar.gz, ./configure, make, make install) but should i do it in another directory like /etc or /usr or something? |
| 05:24.34 | smacnay | well crap, the reason my sd cards were shooting errors and corruting data was not software-related but related to my camera that was formatting the cards poorly. I had sent it to be fixed after a drop and all seemed to work EXCEPT for retrieval of photos from the card. I think the camera is not entirely fixed. |
| 05:24.45 | ltunes001 | reap3r, i had run wireless on 1000h via rt73 or rt25x00 if i remember correctly |
| 05:24.48 | simonrvn | meshuggah_: no! |
| 05:24.56 | smacnay | I was sure it was Gnome or some recently update lib |
| 05:25.04 | simonrvn | meshuggah_: don't ever build stuff in places like that. |
| 05:25.13 | reap3r | I believe the 1000HE is diff but where do i get the deb packages for what you have sugguested |
| 05:25.15 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, in /home ? |
| 05:25.23 | reap3r | i cant cmopile or build because the netbook has no internet access |
| 05:25.30 | smacnay | I even bimped up to sid in some insane belief that it would have more recen libs and up-to-date apps. |
| 05:25.43 | ltunes001 | simonrvn, what or how is "easy" ? |
| 05:25.53 | reap3r | GOS is a debian based OS thinkgos.com |
| 05:26.00 | simonrvn | make a dir somewhere in /home like src or something, then one for the project, then untar it there. |
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| 05:26.07 | smacnay | Well, I am in sid now and wonder how hard it will be to compile the newer nvidia drivers. |
| 05:26.13 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, ok |
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| 05:26.26 | simonrvn | reap3r: you'd be better off in their channel, this is debian only, no derivatives. |
| 05:26.48 | ltunes001 | reap3r, give us a hwinfo --wlan and lspci for starters.. |
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| 05:27.15 | simonrvn | in fact, we only support debian here. |
| 05:27.28 | reap3r | ok |
| 05:27.32 | ltunes001 | maybe i can point you the right firmware to inject into your kernel:) |
| 05:27.34 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, what about the thing about sudo make or sudo make install, when should i do that, and why? |
| 05:27.37 | d-b | reap3r: gos is based on ubuntu. |
| 05:28.03 | reap3r | yes wich is based on debian |
| 05:28.25 | reap3r | ok ill get hwinfo |
| 05:28.38 | d-b | reap3r: wait a second are you saying that because i can buy talk to a guy, who was the son of this other guy that he is the same as his grandfather ? |
| 05:28.43 | d-b | talk* |
| 05:28.44 | d-b | not buy |
| 05:28.44 | ltunes001 | anybody knows "Simon Bose Johann"? he made trigger happy tv and know comedy street;) |
| 05:28.57 | reap3r | ok im not going to get into this with you now |
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| 05:29.00 | reap3r | im going to fix my issue |
| 05:29.05 | simonrvn | meshuggah_: sudo make install. don't build stuff as root, either. you don't need to, and a potential security hazard. |
| 05:29.09 | d-b | reap3r: the son is different to the father which is different to the grandfather. reap3r sure what's the issue. |
| 05:29.14 | theswellseason | d-b, I laughed pretty hard |
| 05:29.25 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, thank, it was a question i had for a long time |
| 05:29.27 | reap3r | ltunes001: what command to i type because idont have hwinfo |
| 05:29.47 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, 2nd question(or maybe the 10th) :) how do i undo su without closing the terminal? |
| 05:29.53 | ltunes001 | if you have debian, just aptitude install hwinfo as sudo |
| 05:30.04 | simonrvn | meshuggah_: eh? |
| 05:30.09 | ltunes001 | reap3r, if not download hwinfo from source and compile |
| 05:30.25 | simonrvn | !not debian |
| 05:30.25 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 05:30.34 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, if i type su [password], i am root, but how can i return to normal user? |
| 05:30.38 | ltunes001 | !not sid |
| 05:30.40 | ltunes001 | lol |
| 05:30.43 | ltunes001 | ;) |
| 05:30.45 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, sudo doesnt seem to work..:) |
| 05:30.52 | simonrvn | meshuggah_: exit or ^d (control-d) |
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| 05:30.59 | ltunes001 | i feel like i deserve to be kicked from channel:) |
| 05:31.06 | simonrvn | meshuggah_: it has to be configured first ;). |
| 05:31.09 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, ho yes ok thank :) |
| 05:31.10 | ltunes001 | but plz dont ban me, LOL |
| 05:31.15 | ltunes001 | ^^ |
| 05:31.41 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, hehe ok, uh..11th question, how to configure :) |
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| 05:32.21 | simonrvn | meshuggah_: /msg dpkg visudo /msg dpkg sudoers /msg dpkg sudo |
| 05:32.50 | d-b | meshuggah_: you could just use su |
| 05:32.59 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, thank, you have been a great help to the newbie that i am, with stupid question i had for the 4month i am 100% using linux |
| 05:33.18 | meshuggah_ | d-b, yes it was what i was doing, but i wanted to know why it wasnt working |
| 05:34.01 | ltunes001 | i hate (!!!) for this constant large amount of data transfer.. every package maintainer should check his stuff like 10 times or so on 100 different computers before they even dare to upload it to the repository, dont they? |
| 05:34.42 | d-b | ltunes001: are you on sid ? |
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| 05:35.06 | simonrvn | ltunes001: that's excessive, but many do, some don't or won't. for me, it would be ok if they tried on a handful, if they have that sort of access to other machines. some can't. |
| 05:35.21 | ltunes001 | d-b, yes:( i thougth i would be cool and up-to-date, like the kids i see on streets with the newest mobiles and stuff:D ;) |
| 05:35.38 | miksuh | well sid is development version |
| 05:35.43 | simonrvn | ltunes001: you can't plan for every single eventuality however, that's just impossible. |
| 05:35.47 | miksuh | so sure it gets lots of updates |
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| 05:36.25 | ltunes001 | maybe you are right... but i think some people could check and debug a bit more before uploading.. |
| 05:36.26 | simonrvn | !sns syndrome |
| 05:36.26 | dpkg | hmm... sns syndrome is a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shite Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 05:36.30 | Wolfcastle | hello |
| 05:36.32 | Wolfcastle | anyone using lxde? |
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| 05:36.42 | simonrvn | !anyone use |
| 05:36.42 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 05:36.59 | simonrvn | Wolfcastle: just ask |
| 05:37.19 | ltunes001 | !anyone sns apart from me? |
| 05:37.23 | ltunes001 | ^^' |
| 05:37.31 | Wolfcastle | well i disabled the desktop icons |
| 05:37.39 | Wolfcastle | and now I don't know how to enable them again |
| 05:37.44 | Wolfcastle | please help |
| 05:37.53 | ltunes001 | !who are you by the way, mr smart 455? |
| 05:37.54 | dpkg | ltunes001: I think you lost me on that one |
| 05:37.54 | ltunes001 | ;) |
| 05:38.07 | simonrvn | doesn't it have a lxsettings or something? try lx<tab><tab> in a terminal |
| 05:38.17 | meshuggah_ | simonrvn, sudo is working now, thank you |
| 05:38.21 | simonrvn | np |
| 05:39.03 | simonrvn | i tried it briefly a coupla weeks ago. it's nice, but i prefer xfce and openbox. |
| 05:39.12 | ltunes001 | i think i have a great idea, i make a system like debian, but with apple or windows-like feeling |
| 05:39.17 | reap3r | <ltunes001> i cant build anything from source because im missing packages |
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| 05:39.26 | reap3r | and it cant conenct otye then et yet |
| 05:39.27 | Wolfcastle | lxde is very nice can't beat it's speed |
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| 05:39.44 | simonrvn | ltunes001: wth some themes you can do that... |
| 05:39.52 | ltunes001 | i make it 100times worse then debian, but i charge people like 100bugs a copy:) great plan? |
| 05:39.59 | simonrvn | reap3r: so install them? |
| 05:40.06 | Wolfcastle | theres lxde-settings but can't run it in the terminal |
| 05:40.16 | ltunes001 | reap3r, what is the wlan hardware? |
| 05:40.28 | simonrvn | Wolfcastle: i meant in something like xterm or such, *in* x |
| 05:40.32 | ltunes001 | :) |
| 05:40.54 | reap3r | its an asus eeepc 1000HE some type of atheros chip |
| 05:41.31 | ltunes001 | people do not want rubbish, but they LOVE it when they have pay for it, dont you think guys? |
| 05:41.32 | theswellseason | reap3r, did it occur to you to get the files you need and put them on a USB drive or something of that sort? |
| 05:41.54 | ltunes001 | reap3r, what does lspci say? and lspci -nn |
| 05:42.00 | reap3r | yes I have done this but I cant seem to get the correct build files to get it working |
| 05:42.37 | simonrvn | reap3r: you need various -dev packages. they contain stuff like header files and build scripts. |
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| 05:43.02 | reap3r | yes i do but i dont know what build files i need |
| 05:43.06 | ltunes001 | reap3r, there have to be sources for atheros, this is like ralink it has such a GOOD support, no i mean it, i wish i would have it |
| 05:43.11 | reap3r | im getting the lspci now |
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| 05:43.39 | simonrvn | reap3r: it'll tell you when you try to run ./configure, or whatever build system it uses. |
| 05:43.41 | ltunes001 | reap3r, just check out atheros webpage and look for the card lspci tells u, if it is atheros |
| 05:43.51 | reap3r | ok |
| 05:43.54 | reap3r | ill try that now |
| 05:43.56 | simonrvn | !atheros |
| 05:43.56 | dpkg | Atheros Communications is a developer of semiconductors. Ask me about <ath5k> or <ath9k> for stable wireless chipset drivers; <ar9170> or <otus> for wireless drivers under development. The non-free <madwifi> driver is not available post-Lenny. Ask me about <atl1>, <atl2> or <atl1e> for Ethernet adapter drivers. |
| 05:44.08 | simonrvn | reap3r: ^^^ |
| 05:44.19 | ltunes001 | !hacking wpa |
| 05:44.21 | simonrvn | the stuff in <> you /msg dpkg foo for |
| 05:44.23 | ltunes001 | :( |
| 05:44.32 | reap3r | it says Atheros Communication unknown device |
| 05:44.39 | ltunes001 | this dpkg is a fool, hehehe |
| 05:44.49 | theswellseason | simonrvn, is there a list of stuff the bot knows? I'd kinda like to pick it's brain similar to following links on wikipedia |
| 05:44.49 | simonrvn | reap3r: as root, do update-pciids, then try again. |
| 05:45.07 | ltunes001 | reap3r, post lspci -nn, the line with atheros |
| 05:45.23 | simonrvn | theswellseason: listkeys and listvals (or listvalues) should spit stuff out. |
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| 05:46.02 | theswellseason | sweet |
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| 05:48.36 | reap3r | <simonrvn> i read that but it does not seem to help me |
| 05:48.57 | reap3r | <ltunes001>01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. Unknown device [168c:002a] (rev 01) |
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| 05:49.59 | simonrvn | gotta know what to do with it :). ltunes001 said to do something. do that so he can help you with it. |
| 05:50.13 | reap3r | i did |
| 05:50.24 | simonrvn | lspci -nn ? |
| 05:50.25 | reap3r | ltunes001: 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. Unknown device [168c:002a] (rev 01) |
| 05:50.34 | reap3r | thats th output ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 05:50.59 | simonrvn | this is the important part right now 168c:002a |
| 05:51.09 | simonrvn | !pciid [168c:002a] |
| 05:51.09 | dpkg | grep -i `echo 168c:002a | sed 's/:/.*/'` /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.pcimap |
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| 05:53.22 | anoHito | can i ask a mysql question please,i cannot join #mysql says needs to be invite |
| 05:53.27 | reap3r | <simonrvn> waht do i do with that important part? |
| 05:54.07 | anoHito | documents says i need to set max_allowed_package in both of mysql server and mysql client |
| 05:54.28 | anoHito | so in my.cnf, i should set them in directive mysqld and in directive mysql ? |
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| 05:55.57 | simonrvn | reap3r: hold on |
| 05:56.04 | reap3r | ok |
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| 05:57.05 | simonrvn | reap3r: http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k see that, and other links in /msg dpkg ath9k |
| 05:57.32 | simonrvn | i don't do wireless, so i can't help much with that |
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| 05:59.09 | reap3r | well thankyou for you help so far simonrvn |
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| 06:01.28 | simonrvn | np |
| 06:02.18 | simonrvn | anoHito: what does http://dev.mysql.com/ manual say about it? |
| 06:02.45 | anoHito | simonrvn, there it says i need to do it both in mysql server and in my server client |
| 06:03.08 | anoHito | i know to do in mysql server,it is in the directive mysqld of the file my.cnf |
| 06:03.16 | meshuggah | simonrvn, with your help i succeed to understand how to install the right way, and install acetoneiso and open my .daa file, so i say you thank for the 10th time |
| 06:03.23 | anoHito | how about that mysql client ? where is it ? |
| 06:04.22 | meshuggah | my questions and thanks are finished for today |
| 06:04.25 | meshuggah | see ya |
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| 06:04.32 | simonrvn | anoHito: ok, the my.cnf is server only i think, but i'm not sure if the client reads that too. if it does it's probably in a section like [mysql] or something. they have a section in their online manual about that. |
| 06:04.45 | simonrvn | heh, cool |
| 06:04.59 | anoHito | hmm |
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| 06:07.01 | Gun_Smoke | couple weeks ago it was discussed on debian.user but I can't seem to locate what I'm after.. What causes the line Ign ftp://mirror.cc.columbia.edu stable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex the Ign being key.. |
| 06:07.23 | Gun_Smoke | when running aptitude update |
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| 06:08.39 | chordogg | hey everyone! is there a way to transfer a job to another session with bash? i started an ssh session but forgot to start screen...can i pause ssh, start screen, and then resume ssh? |
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| 06:10.31 | simonrvn | Gun_Smoke: usually i take that to mean either it's not present, or it's actually ignoring it. |
| 06:11.15 | Gun_Smoke | Just found this.... http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/11/msg03051.html |
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| 06:11.45 | ddalton | has anyone here used "ddclient"? |
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| 06:12.33 | Gun_Smoke | ddalton, I'd guess every 600 seconds.. :D |
| 06:13.19 | ddalton | Gun_Smoke: may i pm u and discuss configuration as im blind and the heavy messages makes it hard to follow... |
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| 06:14.11 | Gun_Smoke | ddalton, yes |
| 06:15.03 | aredhel | lusxy, xserver-xorg-input-joystick ? |
| 06:15.06 | chordogg | exit |
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| 06:17.04 | lusxy | aredhel bash: xserver-xorg-input-joystick: command not found |
| 06:17.12 | simonrvn | Gun_Smoke: ah equivalent to an HTTP 304 |
| 06:17.24 | simonrvn | lusxy: it's a package, not a command. |
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| 06:22.26 | stephanx | hello guys |
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| 06:23.30 | stephanx | I've installed sasl to activate the smtp in postfix, how you can |
| 06:24.51 | stephanx | activate sasl in postfix for debian |
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| 06:29.14 | simonrvn | you just make it use it. |
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| 06:53.33 | stephanx | apt-get what to install sasl |
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| 06:55.15 | usermake_ | stephanx: try packages.debian.org or packages.ubuntu.com |
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| 07:06.47 | wsxws | hi all. im running a perl script on several websers (mostly debian etch) and all of them have a certain script on it, which works pretty fine. just on the first lenny-server it doenst work fine. it seems like it would cache all the prozesses-windows untill everything is done, then they fly over to the endscreen. i already checked apache.conf and php.ini but i cant find the reason. do you have any suggestions ? |
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| 07:08.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, I hope I just configured my ftp server so that uploads by anonymous are possible, but the uploaded files cannot be read again from outside... |
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| 07:09.26 | dondelelcaro | shaft0: the armel port is supposed to work |
| 07:09.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | that should be sufficient to prevent me from finding my machine suddenly being a warez/pr0n/whatever server, right? |
| 07:09.48 | shaft0 | Dondelcaro: You've heard of people changing the OS of the pogoplug? |
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| 07:10.02 | shaft0 | That gives me a lot of hope! haha! |
| 07:10.12 | dondelelcaro | shaft0: yes, multiple people, actually. Search google if you want to see the reports for yourself |
| 07:10.42 | shaft0 | Dondel: I've heard of many people doing it for Sheevaplug, but wasn't able to find anything regarding the pogoplug. |
| 07:11.03 | stephanx | CutMeOwnThroat, verify your directory permissions |
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| 07:11.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems all ok... |
| 07:11.24 | Gryfelhase | Hi. Is there a compiled Version of eclipse ? (for debian?) On my eeepc its not that fast |
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| 07:11.44 | dondelelcaro | shaft0: it's the same thing |
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| 07:12.19 | dondelelcaro | shaft0: but you might as well get a sheva plug, since they supposedly run the same $$s |
| 07:12.23 | stephanx | some things are global like the anon and use of ano user |
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| 07:12.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm just a bit ... hesitant because.... uh, well, dunno :) |
| 07:13.11 | stephanx | brb |
| 07:13.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | I configured it to chown the files to my regular user - so the ftp user can't read them with rw------- permissions anymmore |
| 07:13.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | so I think :) |
| 07:13.26 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: that's the point of write only yeh. that sort of thing with ftp i stay away from - a long way. |
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| 07:13.50 | shaft0 | dondel: I wish I would've, to be honest. I preordered the pogoplug some time ago because I thought they were the same thing, but they're slightly different--the pogoplug lacks the miniusb and SD, which sucks. |
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| 07:14.13 | dondelelcaro | shaft0: right; the pogoplug is a implementation of the shevaplug reference design |
| 07:14.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, well, ftp is one thing that every windows machine has... |
| 07:14.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | so if you're somewhere weird (i.e. at an instrument) it might be the most convenient way to send yourself data |
| 07:15.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | however much the windows ftp client sucks |
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| 07:15.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, I could perhaps also make the directory non-readable |
| 07:15.45 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: no kidding, heh |
| 07:15.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | then one couldn't even see what's in 'incoming' |
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| 07:16.35 | simonrvn | usually it's the dir yes |
| 07:17.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems ok to me |
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| 07:17.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | want to try? |
| 07:18.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well, she'll be right :) |
| 07:19.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno why I'm worried |
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| 07:19.01 | Posterdati | hi |
| 07:19.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | should more worry about those tax forms |
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| 07:30.13 | dfss | hello everybody , i want to install debian 5.01 but i couldn't find the link. i ll boot with unetbootin so i need a amd64 iso file. could someone sent me a link? |
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| 07:30.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | !netinstall |
| 07:30.54 | dpkg | it has been said that netinst is a small CD image (or set of floppy images) which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but the connection is not required for a base install to complete. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ and ask me about <check iso image>. If you use a dial-up connection, ask me about <dialup install>. See also <pppoe install>, <netboot>. |
| 07:30.55 | dondelelcaro | dfss: you want debian 5.0r1 |
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| 07:31.19 | dfss | dondelelcaro ,it doesn't matter but i want the last one sure =) |
| 07:31.20 | dondelelcaro | dfss: and you can just use the 5.0 install media and upgrade to 5.0r1 (or you can use the 5.0r1 media if it's available) |
| 07:31.29 | Gun_Smoke | someone know a better line than grep -v \# foo |grep -v ^$ |
| 07:31.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | egrep -v '\# foo|^$' |
| 07:32.01 | dondelelcaro | Gun_Smoke: -e is your friend |
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| 07:32.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | I prefer prepending :) |
| 07:32.25 | dondelelcaro | Gun_Smoke: specifically grep -v -e '#' -e '^$'; |
| 07:32.30 | dondelelcaro | (or you can use egrep) |
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| 07:32.43 | Gun_Smoke | CutMeOwnThroat, dondelelcaro nice each.. |
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| 07:33.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, you want to remove comments, not comments saying foo? |
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| 07:33.48 | aprendiz001 | hi all |
| 07:33.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | then grep -v '^ *#*$' should suffice |
| 07:33.57 | Gun_Smoke | right clean up a conf file for pasting or the like... drop comments and blank lines. |
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| 07:34.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | ops |
| 07:34.24 | Gun_Smoke | only the meat and potatoes |
| 07:34.32 | dfss | dondelelcaro , did you find the link? |
| 07:34.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, no forget the last one |
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| 07:35.11 | dondelelcaro | dfss: link to what? |
| 07:35.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's stupid and I don't see the fix immediately |
| 07:35.54 | dfss | the last debian's amd64 iso file? |
| 07:36.07 | dondelelcaro | presumably you want ^.*#.*$ |
| 07:36.20 | dondelelcaro | dfss: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/ for example |
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| 07:37.03 | dfss | dondelelcaro, http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/amd64/iso-dvd/ , there is 5 iso file. which one? |
| 07:37.46 | klaz168 | u sure u want to grab a dvd? |
| 07:38.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | Gun_Smoke, guess the fix is grep -v '^ *\(#.*\)*$' - but really, you could also have read info sed :) ---> sed '/./!d;/^ *#/d;' |
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| 07:41.14 | Gun_Smoke | CutMeOwnThroat, thanks... I like that. |
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| 07:41.48 | mythomaniac | you know we should have like trivia in here based on fortune-debian-hints ;) |
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| 07:42.45 | dfss | dondelelcaro , ?? |
| 07:43.07 | at0m | dfss, just download a basic installer, like netinstall, then tever additional packages. more efficient for you, and for the mirror servers |
| 07:43.15 | dondelelcaro | dfss: the first one is all you need, but you can also download just the netinst images. |
| 07:43.24 | at0m | dfss, or are you going to install the full monty |
| 07:44.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | mythomaniac, that'd be more for #debian-offtopic |
| 07:44.12 | at0m | s/tever/ aptitude install whatever |
| 07:44.19 | at0m | gap in the wireless keyb :o |
| 07:44.29 | mythomaniac | CutMeOwnThroat, yeah, but think of the amount of people in here playing - it would be rocking |
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| 07:45.28 | at0m | mythomaniac, or like #debian on efnet, set a "hint of the day" in /topic ? but that seems pretty full already |
| 07:45.52 | mythomaniac | at0m, yeah that would cool too |
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| 07:46.25 | dfss | at0m, if i install net netins can i use wity unetbootin ? i tried to install with win32_installer it gave an error about dhcp-network. |
| 07:46.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, I just moved a directory in which a program is still creating new files... imo, that should be no problem.. .but better to wait until the next file turns up :) |
| 07:47.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe no! it's placing it in the directory with the original name |
| 07:47.39 | simonrvn | it won't follow it to the new place ;). |
| 07:48.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | it could have |
| 07:49.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... I think |
| 07:49.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh... of course.. it doesn't chdir into it |
| 07:49.36 | dfss | btw ubuntu was 690 mb why is debian 4.4 GB ? |
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| 07:49.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | dfss, lots of virtual french fries |
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| 07:50.24 | dfss | CutMeOwnThroat, i im sure that fat fag! |
| 07:50.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, other said... |
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| 07:50.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | "it depends on what you install" |
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| 07:52.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | dfss, here... but bah - why is the minimal install size of etch discussed in ubuntu forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=654374 |
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| 07:54.02 | AlHafoudh | what i have to do to mount nfs as root filesystem? i think the networking is not started before the mounting root filesystem is done |
| 07:54.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | dfss, disks today are >> 4GB, so a big default makes sense for the majority |
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| 07:55.56 | mythomaniac | yeah CutMeOwnThroat that is strange |
| 07:55.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | can you do that? I've never actually seen any nfs root install |
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| 07:56.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course, there were diskless stations... but that's not the same, I think |
| 07:56.38 | mythomaniac | i don't understand the question on ntfs root install? |
| 07:56.47 | mythomaniac | err |
| 07:56.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | not ntfs! nfs! |
| 07:57.18 | mythomaniac | yeah i see that now CutMeOwnThroat - hence the err |
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| 07:57.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-Root.html |
| 07:57.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | ain;t it amazing whta googilng nfs root can produce... |
| 07:58.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | and my browser claims I read that already :) |
| 07:59.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | but yeah, I'm rather sure I've never really seen such a setup |
| 07:59.14 | dfss | the stable netinst link : http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ is broken (?) |
| 07:59.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | (of course the cashiers in a shop I bought something in might have run it) |
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| 07:59.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | in how far? |
| 07:59.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, I see |
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| 08:00.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
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| 08:01.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | leads to e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-501-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 08:01.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, 3am |
| 08:02.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | bedtime, CutMeOwnThroat? |
| 08:02.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | CutMeOwnThroat, yes, bedtime, off with you |
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| 08:02.57 | dfss | CutMeOwnThroat , thanks |
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| 08:07.23 | izua | CutMeOwnThroat: still here? |
| 08:07.30 | at0m | AlHafoudh, http://www.pixelchaos.net/2009/02/15/diskless-booting-with-pxe-and-nfs/ |
| 08:07.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | izua, no |
| 08:07.45 | AlHafoudh | thx |
| 08:07.59 | izua | CutMeOwnThroat: http://eatliver.com/i.php?n=2434 |
| 08:08.12 | at0m | AlHafoudh, what kernel do you use? having problems with my -amd64 |
| 08:08.23 | AlHafoudh | iam trying to boot diskless xen |
| 08:08.26 | AlHafoudh | dom0 |
| 08:08.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | izua, I look a little bit like the right-hand side guy :) |
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| 08:09.11 | at0m | CutMeOwnThroat, dont CMOT! |
| 08:09.18 | izua | hahah, i ment about talking to yourself :P |
| 08:09.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | izua, at least he's not wasting water! |
| 08:09.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I knew what you meant |
| 08:09.50 | izua | he's wasting schizophrenic water? |
| 08:10.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | only using water in mirror-land |
| 08:10.11 | maxagaz | how to ping an address from eth1 (which is one of my ethernet card) ? |
| 08:10.30 | at0m | maxagaz, man ping is pretty straight-forward on that |
| 08:10.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm sure your reading of man ping is as good as mine |
| 08:10.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | hint: search for interface or device |
| 08:11.10 | maxagaz | at0m, i tried: ping -I eth0 www.google.com, but it doesn't work |
| 08:11.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | as root? |
| 08:11.25 | at0m | ping -I eth1 |
| 08:11.44 | at0m | ping -I eth1 sex.com, less typing :o |
| 08:12.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | I normally ping 134.34.3.2 |
| 08:12.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | no dns :) |
| 08:12.14 | at0m | :) |
| 08:12.16 | at0m | goes to work |
| 08:12.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | (and as the dns server of my 1st uni, it's the only IP that'll stay and that I'll remember) |
| 08:13.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | and me and me'll go to bed now |
| 08:13.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | together! |
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| 08:13.56 | maxagaz | this: ping -I 192.168.102.13 192.168.0.10 works |
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| 08:14.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's weird |
| 08:14.14 | maxagaz | but how to replace 192.168.102.13 by something like eth1 ? |
| 08:14.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | should use the device |
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| 08:15.26 | at0m | maxagaz, ifconfig shows eth1 ? now wlan0 or so? |
| 08:15.30 | at0m | s/now/not |
| 08:15.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | maxagaz, you're wrong - ping -I lo 134.34.3.2 doesn't give me a reply, ping -I eth0 134.34.3.2 does |
| 08:16.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | interface names *definitely* work |
| 08:16.11 | simonrvn | wtf would pinging lo get something on the 'net anyway? |
| 08:16.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, it would not... my point exactly |
| 08:16.43 | simonrvn | i'm agreeing ;) |
| 08:16.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, how else would you test if ping -I eth0 works as we all think/know it does? |
| 08:16.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | (if lo and eth0 are your only interfaces) |
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| 08:17.15 | simonrvn | enoparse |
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| 08:17.25 | mcbane | Hi |
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| 08:17.32 | simonrvn | it's ok, i'm tired too |
| 08:18.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, he says: ping -I eth0 no worky - I say ping -I (eth0 | lo) worky - proove it by comparing them |
| 08:18.54 | simonrvn | of course it'll work, you just gotta do it right |
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| 08:19.05 | simonrvn | (assuming the iface is up of course) |
| 08:19.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps it's different in ubuntu :-P |
| 08:19.37 | simonrvn | ba-dum-tssh |
| 08:19.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | (that's developing into my standard phrase when someone claims that simple things don't work) |
| 08:23.02 | maxagaz | at0m, it shows eth1 |
| 08:23.24 | at0m | maxagaz, with the IP you expected and all? |
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| 08:24.43 | maxagaz | CutMeOwnThroat, yes, for me too, ping -I eth0 192.168.0.10 works, but not ping -I eth1 192.168.0.10, while ping -I 192.168.102.14 192.168.0.10 works (eth1=192.168.102.14), so there's something i don't understand |
| 08:25.04 | at0m | weird indeed |
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| 08:25.18 | aprendiz001 | yesterday I have upgraded to lenny from etch |
| 08:25.30 | aprendiz001 | the kernel was upgraded but not the grub |
| 08:25.32 | maxagaz | at0m, yes |
| 08:25.39 | at0m | maxagaz, but glad you found a workaround :> |
| 08:25.41 | at0m | runs |
| 08:25.44 | aprendiz001 | happened the same to anyone? |
| 08:25.46 | aprendiz001 | is it a bug? |
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| 08:26.36 | Gast_565_ | http://brunokante.mybrute.com |
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| 08:28.42 | simonrvn | ... |
| 08:28.46 | simonrvn | !kill spammers |
| 08:28.47 | dpkg | chops spammers's head off with a Knoppix CD |
| 08:29.06 | wsxws | aprendiz001 where is the problem ? a simple update-grub would have fixed that |
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| 08:31.57 | izua | !bash dpkg |
| 08:32.08 | izua | !kill dpkg |
| 08:32.08 | dpkg | rips dpkg open with a whip |
| 08:34.09 | c0m1 | !kill aliens |
| 08:34.10 | dpkg | crushes aliens with a whip |
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| 08:34.18 | c0m1 | fascinating |
| 08:34.33 | c0m1 | i wonder what other commands are available? |
| 08:34.44 | izua | !kill zombies |
| 08:34.44 | dpkg | mangles zombies with a Knoppix CD |
| 08:34.51 | azeem | izua: please don't abuse the bot |
| 08:35.06 | izua | i'm abusing it? :/ |
| 08:35.18 | izua | sorry |
| 08:35.27 | c0m1 | !kill people who think it is possible to abuse a bot |
| 08:35.27 | dpkg | mangles people who think it is possible to abuse a bot with a rusty dagger |
| 08:35.42 | azeem | c0m1: please kepp it on topic |
| 08:35.45 | azeem | keep* |
| 08:36.03 | c0m1 | dang, I probably just offended an op. |
| 08:36.21 | c0m1 | Debian is the coolest OS ever. |
| 08:36.30 | c0m1 | :) |
| 08:36.42 | izua | i think thatline has been tried on ops before :P |
| 08:37.02 | c0m1 | actually, I do believe that (ask the six computers on my network running Debian) |
| 08:37.11 | izua | i only have two.. |
| 08:37.21 | izua | *in the process of converting a third one to debian* |
| 08:37.38 | c0m1 | i guess I'm going to take over the world before you do, then |
| 08:37.48 | izua | !kill c0m1 |
| 08:37.49 | dpkg | rips c0m1 open with a rusty dagger |
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| 08:38.08 | azeem | izua: uh? |
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| 08:38.36 | izua | come on, that was well used. |
| 08:39.28 | c0m1 | I like Debian particularly for the stability |
| 08:39.35 | c0m1 | and the package manager |
| 08:39.42 | c0m1 | except when it is trying to kill me |
| 08:39.51 | izua | well, i think that comes with linux |
| 08:40.01 | BennyParder1 | ?? |
| 08:40.19 | izua | i've played with slackware some months ago, but it was overkill when i wanted to install someting |
| 08:40.24 | c0m1 | my experiences with Ubuntu/Fedora/Mandy haven't been as good in the bug department |
| 08:40.37 | izua | tried a bit of kubuntu some years ago |
| 08:40.40 | BennyParder1 | linux only kills you ignoring the warnins.... because then you try to harm it |
| 08:41.17 | izua | like "kernel panic". ignore that. |
| 08:41.36 | izua | and then it will kill you. but it knows you'regoing to ignore it, so it kills you before you can ignore it. |
| 08:41.38 | c0m1 | Even though some criticize the release cycle, I think it is a much better approach than these other distros turning out bug-ridden releases all the time |
| 08:41.57 | BennyParder1 | c0m1 : Mandy ? Mandriva |
| 08:42.17 | c0m1 | Mandriva/Mandrake |
| 08:42.34 | c0m1 | (Well, I never actually used it back in the Mandrake days) |
| 08:42.42 | BennyParder1 | izua : safety come first ..like in nature ... if you try to damage ..., you ll be extincted |
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| 08:43.39 | c0m1 | so, my original question: does the bot have any other commands? |
| 08:43.48 | BennyParder1 | c0m1: i use it till today .... MDV 07 , 08 and 09 are good |
| 08:43.49 | dondelelcaro | c0m1: loads of commands. |
| 08:44.02 | c0m1 | !help |
| 08:44.10 | c0m1 | !commands |
| 08:44.11 | dpkg | i guess commands is The Linux command reference may be found here: http://justlinux.com/nhf/Command_Reference and here: http://justlinux.com/nhf/Shells/Basic_Console_Commands.html |
| 08:44.12 | BennyParder1 | how about "toad" commands |
| 08:44.36 | c0m1 | hmm... okay I'll bite |
| 08:44.37 | c0m1 | !toad |
| 08:44.55 | c0m1 | ? |
| 08:45.05 | c0m1 | !list |
| 08:45.05 | BennyParder1 | ? gummybears ? |
| 08:45.05 | dpkg | c0m1: VATTENE VIA |
| 08:45.46 | c0m1 | !install |
| 08:45.46 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images. Ask me about <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
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| 08:45.54 | BennyParder1 | !furry ? |
| 08:45.56 | c0m1 | !lenny |
| 08:45.56 | dpkg | hmm... lenny is the binoculars, or the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 5.0, released on 2009-02-15: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 Ask me about <lenny release notes>, <install debian>, <etch->lenny>, <release history>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.1>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
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| 08:46.17 | c0m1 | !squeeze |
| 08:46.17 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the Xfce archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze |
| 08:46.39 | AlHafoudh | why is loading initrd over network so slow? (pxe) |
| 08:47.08 | BennyParder1 | is there someone who knows good about LXDE ? |
| 08:48.08 | c0m1 | !unstable |
| 08:48.08 | dpkg | it has been said that unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges (!) See <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq><apt-listbugs><apt-listchanges>. |
| 08:48.59 | BennyParder1 | !lxde |
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| 08:49.24 | c0m1 | !testing |
| 08:49.24 | dpkg | [testing] a release/suite between <stable> and <unstable>. Testing currently points to <squeeze> and as <lenny> has only just been released, squeeze users are in for a bumpy ride. Either be clueful or be told that you shouldn't be using testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html, http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html. <lenny->squeeze><testing security><moving target><dda>. |
| 08:50.31 | c0m1 | !stable |
| 08:50.31 | dpkg | [stable] the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or new versions introduced, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Lenny (5.0); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the current version (ask me about <security backports>). http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
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| 08:51.16 | c0m1 | !security backports |
| 08:51.16 | dpkg | Debian incorporates security fixes into the version currently in <stable>. This is non-trivial so it may take a couple days. Backporting security fixes means that you can update the package without problems like changed behaviour that would come with updating to a new version of the software. The upstream version number doesn't change in the Debian package when this is done; check the changelog or the <tracker of doom>. |
| 08:52.02 | c0m1 | !tracker of doom |
| 08:52.03 | dpkg | well, tracker of doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.net or read http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ or http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences |
| 08:52.18 | azeem | c0m1: please /msg the bot |
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| 08:54.37 | c0m1 | that's okay, I already know everything in the universe. Just checking to see if the bot was accurate |
| 08:55.16 | azeem | c0m1: no, you've spammed the chane |
| 08:55.20 | azeem | chan* |
| 08:55.33 | azeem | c0m1: so please try to be more signal and less noise in the future |
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| 08:59.36 | c0m1 | win 5 |
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| 09:05.40 | boghog | what's the best way to make sure my firewall rules get applied on boot? is it ok to just create a script that gets called from /etc/rc.local ? I come from gentoo which has some init.d service that simply saves/restores iptables state but I'm not sure if Debian has something like that |
| 09:07.21 | xingu | boghog: I use interfaces(5) up/ down scripts, myself. |
| 09:07.40 | boghog | oh, that seems sensible yeah |
| 09:07.50 | xingu | boghog: nb, it's far better to use iptables-save/ iptables-restore to bulk-load rules than insert them one at a time with iptables |
| 09:08.10 | boghog | yeah I have some script that I use to apply rules at the moment |
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| 09:08.47 | xingu | boghog: that'll get cripplingly slow for large numbers of rules in current kernels (it's being worked on in 2.6.30git |
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| 09:09.29 | boghog | well it's a small script so far but maybe if I start blocking IPs that are bruteforcing ssh logins |
| 09:10.05 | boghog | should I call iptables-save/restore from the interface scripts or would it be better to create some init.d script for that? |
| 09:10.07 | xingu | boghog: having said that I haven't transitioned yet either, I have some shellscripts that are annotated and (to me) well laid out; still, I could replace them easily with a bit of sed magic |
| 09:10.14 | boghog | I guess it needs to be run on shutdown |
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| 09:10.27 | xingu | boghog: you can merge in new rules with iptables-restore |
| 09:12.07 | boghog | one more thing, does it matter when during boot the script is run? it seems the default policy right now is ACCEPT for all chains so I guess that means I am unfirewalled for a short while during boot, though I'm not sure if I should worry about that at all |
| 09:12.37 | xingu | boghog: yes that's quite stupid I agree; again I have an up action on lo interface that fixes that. |
| 09:13.25 | boghog | ah okay, well I found some article about iptables-restore etc ( http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/445 ) |
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| 09:15.35 | boghog | hmm, that article does not tell how to save the state, though I guess I should really make any changes in my permanent firewall config anyway |
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| 09:16.08 | xingu | boghog: oh, I don't bother with that; just dump *once* after you've got your rules inserted and then templatise the output. |
| 09:16.38 | xingu | boghog: from that point on work on the template rather than kernel state |
| 09:17.05 | boghog | hmm |
| 09:18.07 | boghog | dumping is done with iptables-save right? |
| 09:18.14 | xingu | yup |
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| 09:30.30 | abritschgi | Hi, everyone. my postgresql-8.1 db is crashed an now I can't the postgresql-8.1 stop, restart or reinstall. I get the message: * Insecure directory in $ENV{PATH} while running -T switch at /usr/bin/pg_ctlcluster line 352. Does anyone can help me? thanks |
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| 09:31.55 | xingu | abritschgi: not specifically but that error is being generated by a perl scrit (I assume - pg_ctlcluster) because your PATH environment variable includes something fishy (perhaps, owned by another user, or world writable) |
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| 09:32.21 | xingu | abritschgi: so; check your PATH and remove your own site-local changes to it, is my first suggestion |
| 09:32.49 | xingu | s/scrit/script/ |
| 09:33.04 | Honeyman | Hi. Can anyone suggest, what command/executable can I use to reconfigure AutoRepeat (of X.org) dynamically, from the script? |
| 09:33.18 | xingu | Honeyman: xset |
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| 09:33.26 | abritschgi | thanks xingu i'll try it |
| 09:33.45 | Honeyman | xingu: oh. Thanks. That should be it. |
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| 09:38.41 | Kanisterschleife | hi all |
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| 09:39.16 | Kanisterschleife | I'd like to choose internal links within xpdf without the need of using the mouse. Is there a way to configure xpdf so that one can select internal links via keyboard |
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| 09:58.43 | RichiH | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.51 | RichiH | how bad is that? |
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| 10:00.35 | Gryfelhase | RichiH: I had this error, when using virtualbox and its usb-function...... it was on an external harddisc, had afaik no data lost, but had to disable usb and remount the harddisc |
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| 10:01.03 | Gryfelhase | then it checked the journaling of the harddisc |
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| 10:07.47 | xingu | RichiH: anywhere from disaster through no problem. :) |
| 10:09.15 | CoolCold | hi |
| 10:09.35 | CoolCold | are there any ways except ls to get major, minor number of device? |
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| 10:10.32 | vi390 | hi, is there a way to find out what courier IMAP version i have running "imapd --version" did not work |
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| 10:11.04 | joltcan | vi390: dpkg -l|grep courier ? |
| 10:12.35 | vi390 | joltcan: oh, okey . thanks :) |
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| 10:12.53 | xingu | CoolCold: stat |
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| 10:18.04 | CoolCold | xingu: i c..thanks |
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| 10:28.16 | aprendiz001 | I have changed the source.list from debian to lenny |
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| 10:28.28 | ganu | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:28.29 | aprendiz001 | and in the aptitude update I received this error: W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
| 10:28.29 | aprendiz001 | 4D270D06F42584E6 |
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| 10:28.58 | aprendiz001 | I have tried: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net 4D270D06F42584E6 |
| 10:28.58 | aprendiz001 | gpg: can't open `4D270D06F42584E6' |
| 10:29.04 | aprendiz001 | any idea? |
| 10:29.29 | adb | install debian-archive-keyring |
| 10:29.36 | ganu | please how to proceed the xen in lenny |
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| 10:30.23 | petemc | ganu: check xend.log |
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| 10:30.39 | aprendiz001 | adb, thanks |
| 10:30.43 | adb | np |
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| 10:31.16 | ganu | petemc, i checked there i didnt find any error there |
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| 10:31.57 | petemc | ganu: would you recognise an error in there if you saw one? |
| 10:32.41 | ganu | petemc, this worked fine when i used the etch in my system |
| 10:33.01 | petemc | ganu: right, some things have changed, i use pygrub with my domUs now - do you? |
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| 10:34.36 | RichiH | xingu: yay ;) |
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| 10:38.35 | aprendiz001 | what is better for upgrading aptitude or apt? |
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| 10:40.00 | petemc | aptitude |
| 10:40.13 | adb | i'll update later ... |
| 10:40.31 | aprendiz001 | petemc, I thought that but I have a doubt |
| 10:41.06 | flipflop | hi. I removed some unneeded languages and now apt-get gives me errors like these: "update-alternatives: unable to make /usr/share/man/fr.UTF-8/man1/view.1.gz.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/view.fr.UTF-8.1.gz: No such file or directory" |
| 10:41.08 | aprendiz001 | in order to upgrade to lenny aptitude want to keep in the version of etch some package as openssh |
| 10:41.30 | petemc | aprendiz001: did you read the release notes? |
| 10:41.51 | aprendiz001 | more or less |
| 10:41.56 | aprendiz001 | have I to check again? |
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| 10:43.10 | adb | aprendiz001: #523896 |
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| 10:44.27 | flipflop | can someone help me with that update-alternatives business? |
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| 10:45.59 | aprendiz001 | petemc, what is the problem with those packages? |
| 10:46.29 | mejustuser | À ðóñêîÿçû÷íî ãîâîðÿùèå çäåñü åñòü? |
| 10:46.35 | adb | !ru |
| 10:46.35 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 10:47.43 | petemc | aprendiz001: im not sure, i dont recall having that problem |
| 10:48.02 | aprendiz001 | ok |
| 10:48.41 | aprendiz001 | petemc, with apt the problem disappear |
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| 10:55.18 | r0sk | Hi all |
| 10:55.26 | r0sk | is there any way to install mysql4 on Lenny? |
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| 11:04.00 | krisfremen | hmm i know this is a nooby question but... |
| 11:04.04 | krisfremen | any howtos for installing debian over a fedora distro? |
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| 11:07.30 | krisfremen | /usr/man or /usr/share/man i think |
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| 11:08.26 | flipflop | yea, but if I just remove the language directories, "update-alternatives" still tries to find them where they were... |
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| 11:29.43 | Gun_Smoke | i hate the word got.. There is almost always a better word. |
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| 11:47.48 | Pikachu320 | does debian packages changes anything related to bind9 and zone delegation ? |
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| 11:49.43 | Duddle | hello! urgent help needed: just did a dist-upgrade from etch to lenny, apart from minor error successfully. I did add a new entry to lilo.conf and ran "lilo" without a hitch. now when I boot it says "could not load /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686" and fails |
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| 11:50.03 | upIRC | Gun_Smoke: grabbed? |
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| 11:50.36 | abritschgi | hi all, my postgresql-8.1 is crashed, now i'd like to remove and install, but i can't remove. The error is: dpkg: error processing postgresql-8.1 (--remove): PAckage is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. But reinstall don't work and gives also errors. please, can someone help? |
| 11:51.13 | zamba | how can i see what packages are waiting to be installed? |
| 11:51.16 | Gun_Smoke | upIRC, have, purchased, etc etc.. |
| 11:51.21 | zamba | i want to not install them |
| 11:51.37 | zamba | (i'm currently upgrading from etch to lenny and getting errors on libc6) |
| 11:51.48 | zamba | forgot to first upgrade apt, dpkg and aptitude |
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| 11:52.30 | Polleke | I've mirrored a server from one system to another. By copying over the filesystem. Everything seems to work. But there is one program (closed source) that for some reasons "knows" the IP from the server where the filesystem is mirrored from. Where could this possibly be stored? |
| 11:52.56 | upIRC | Gun_Smoke: acquired? |
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| 11:54.25 | abrotman | Polleke: grep its configs |
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| 11:54.54 | Polleke | abrotman, I did.. I even redownloaded the program and its files. I grepped /etc too |
| 11:55.02 | Gun_Smoke | upIRC, that would do.. |
| 11:55.15 | Gun_Smoke | upIRC, like I said always a better word.. |
| 11:55.19 | Gun_Smoke | gtg |
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| 11:56.29 | Polleke | abrotman, I've got a strace log.. but it's giant. No idea how to start looking in that |
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| 11:57.50 | abrotman | Polleke: maybe it keeps stuff in /var/ too |
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| 12:01.13 | Polleke | abrotman, the old IP is in /var/cache/debconf/config.dat |
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| 12:02.27 | zl2tod | xorg is serving me up video modes which respect neither the edid data nor the conf ... anyone know how to make it behave ? |
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| 12:05.05 | abrotman | Polleke: can you dpkg-reconfigure the package? |
| 12:05.14 | jaggz | which is more developed and convenient (not necessarily user friendly -- but powerful) xfce or kde? |
| 12:05.31 | jaggz | like kde on this system seems to have a nice keyboard macro system |
| 12:05.32 | Polleke | abrotman, hehe.. it was looking up the systems hostname. Which was resolving to the old IP. Didn't realise some programs do this |
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| 12:05.50 | jaggz | xfce seems to only let me handle the normal windows/desktop mapping, and then map keys to run commands |
| 12:05.59 | jaggz | no "send keystroke to application" thing? |
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| 12:06.45 | abrotman | Polleke: all figured out? |
| 12:06.59 | lvh | anyone know how to get xaos to display color with the aalib driver? |
| 12:07.13 | Polleke | abrotman, crashing on something else now.. but yeah I think so |
| 12:07.21 | Polleke | abrotman, thanks |
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| 12:21.32 | ^shark_ | anyone installed otrs2 on lenny using apt or aptitude |
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| 12:23.43 | abrotman | ^shark_: and what if they have? |
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| 12:26.51 | ^shark_ | abrotman: i am having issues logging in to .. index.pl with username: root@localhost & password: root. |
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| 12:29.05 | ^shark_ | abrotman: i have tried #otrs but everyone there is asleep i think |
| 12:29.44 | abrotman | ^shark_: did you check /usr/share/doc/otrs2/ ? |
| 12:29.54 | JyZyXEL | what the heck is this aptitude Resolving depencies.... |
| 12:30.03 | JyZyXEL | its been going for 30 minutes |
| 12:30.15 | ^shark_ | abrotman: what should i be looking for? |
| 12:30.20 | JyZyXEL | all the numbers keep raising |
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| 12:30.29 | abrotman | ^shark_: documentation? |
| 12:30.37 | ^shark_ | abrotman: ok |
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| 12:32.44 | ProoD | hey |
| 12:32.46 | ProoD | need some help |
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| 12:32.58 | ProoD | how do i add a user in linux to give him permission to download files and execute them |
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| 12:34.07 | Polleke | ProoD, how do you want them to download the files? |
| 12:34.26 | ProoD | like |
| 12:34.29 | ProoD | wget http://website |
| 12:34.41 | jelly | JyZyXEL: it means your current mix of repositories and install requests won't likely be satisfied, ctrl-c it |
| 12:35.17 | jelly | ProoD: the "adduser" command |
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| 12:35.38 | jelly | ? |
| 12:36.07 | jelly | ProoD: or do you already have a user created, and wget doesn't work for them for some reason? |
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| 12:37.42 | ProoD | yeah |
| 12:37.45 | ProoD | adduser i know lol |
| 12:37.54 | ProoD | there is a cmd which i forgot now |
| 12:38.01 | ProoD | u have to type tht with adduser command |
| 12:38.06 | ProoD | then the user can install files |
| 12:38.06 | ProoD | etc |
| 12:38.30 | Polleke | ProoD, do you mean sudo? |
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| 12:39.09 | jelly | ProoD: any user can run wget by default, as long as their current directory allows writing (for that user) |
| 12:39.34 | jelly | ProoD: what is the real command you're running and the whole output when it fails? |
| 12:40.11 | drazzil | When I try to launch Synaptic, I get an error that says it is unable to create (blah) directory /home/root/.synaptic It is supposed to look in /root/.synaptic right? |
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| 12:41.00 | olejorgenb | how can I figure out which repository a package is from? |
| 12:41.39 | olejorgenb | eg. if a package is in squeeze or lenny |
| 12:41.44 | olejorgenb | (or both) |
| 12:42.02 | EmleyMoor | olejorgenb: Are you running a mixture? |
| 12:42.15 | ProoD | wait let me try |
| 12:42.24 | olejorgenb | yes |
| 12:42.41 | olejorgenb | I would think that apt-cache had a line like this |
| 12:42.45 | Polleke | drazzil, well.. yeah it is supposed to. But this might be a hint that this program is not supposed to run as root. What is it? |
| 12:42.51 | olejorgenb | origin: <url to repo> |
| 12:42.54 | olejorgenb | but nope |
| 12:42.59 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:43.04 | zl2tod | olejorgenb, http://packages.debian.org/packagename |
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| 12:43.25 | drazzil | Polleke, just happens when I try to start Synaptic, I enter root pasword and that error comes up |
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| 12:44.05 | Polleke | drazzil, the obvious hack to fix it is to make a symlink from /home/root to /root |
| 12:44.12 | yup1 | ÑÑÐ´Ð´Ñ |
| 12:44.12 | olejorgenb | zl2tod: yeah, but isn't there a way to do it with apt? |
| 12:44.12 | yup1 | hello |
| 12:44.16 | drazzil | E: ERROR: could not create configuration directory /home/root/.synaptic - mkdir (2 No such file or directory) |
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| 12:44.48 | yup1 | maybe someone knows, how can I change color depth per window ? |
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| 12:45.40 | zl2tod | drazzil, have a look at /etc/passwd and see what root's home directory is set to |
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| 12:46.41 | olejorgenb | adb: policy only shows what repos is "active" from what I can see |
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| 12:47.04 | olejorgenb | I want: apt-cache package-origin opera |
| 12:47.08 | drazzil | zl2tod: |
| 12:47.11 | drazzil | root:x:0:0:root:/home/root:/bin/bash |
| 12:47.20 | drazzil | how did that happen? |
| 12:47.21 | olejorgenb | -> deb.opera.com opera |
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| 12:47.49 | pantelis | i m in debian sid and have installed network-manager-kde i am connected but netwok-manager-kde's tray icon show network down any idea |
| 12:47.49 | pandator | how do I change my computer's host and domain names? |
| 12:48.07 | pantelis | ?? |
| 12:48.31 | yup1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.43 | Polleke | pandator, man hostname. And edit /etc/hostname. This may or may not be what you want |
| 12:48.44 | beardy | pandator: You set that in /etc/hostname, 'man 5 hostname' |
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| 12:48.57 | pandator | OK, thanks guys |
| 12:48.58 | pantelis | yup1 no |
| 12:48.59 | zl2tod | drazzil, that should probably read root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash |
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| 12:49.10 | petemc | pandator: you'll want to edit /etc/hosts too |
| 12:49.22 | JyZyXEL | ok what the fuck is this resolving depencies shit |
| 12:49.22 | JyZyXEL | its taking forever |
| 12:49.22 | pantelis | how can i do this |
| 12:49.25 | pantelis | ?? |
| 12:49.25 | pandator | Ok |
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| 12:49.38 | drazzil | thanks |
| 12:50.34 | Polleke | pantelis, huh what? You're asking how to run that command? |
| 12:50.37 | EmleyMoor | JyZyXEL: If it is continuing to count, rather than offer possible solutions, you may need to remove some packages to get past it |
| 12:50.45 | pantelis | yap |
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| 12:51.05 | JyZyXEL | EmleyMoor The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 12:51.07 | JyZyXEL | those packages? |
| 12:51.12 | zl2tod | JyZyXEL, the repository is a mess at the moment, probably best to hold off any major upgrades for a while .... a word of warning: don't try apt-get instead of aptitude or lotsa stuff will break |
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| 12:51.42 | JyZyXEL | zl2tod etch to lenny is a mess? |
| 12:51.45 | Polleke | pantelis, you open a console |
| 12:51.59 | EmleyMoor | JyZyXEL: Probably a good place to start |
| 12:52.10 | zl2tod | JyZyXEL, no - unstable is a mess |
| 12:52.15 | pantelis | ok |
| 12:52.21 | JyZyXEL | i don't doubt that |
| 12:52.23 | EmleyMoor | I had the same problem on two of my three when I went to lenny |
| 12:52.27 | zl2tod | i've never done an etch > lenny |
| 12:52.30 | pantelis | it always open |
| 12:52.34 | pantelis | :) |
| 12:52.47 | petemc | JyZyXEL: are you following the release notes? |
| 12:53.17 | JyZyXEL | petemc indeed i am |
| 12:56.03 | Frantic | does debian have a easy way to make iptables rules persistent? :) like some distros have /etc/init.d/iptables save ? |
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| 12:56.39 | justin | loves I2, 2009-04-15 08:55:59 (9.06 MB/s) - `debian_lenny_i386_small.qcow.gz' saved |
| 12:56.46 | pantelis | @poloke i find this http://duckzland.ismywebsite.com/about/network-manager-magic-without-gnome/ |
| 12:56.55 | pantelis | is it ok?? |
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| 12:57.42 | klync | i'm looking for some pointers on gnome vfs - e.g. when i plug in my usb pen, some apps don't see it in their open file dialogue .... any ideas? |
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| 13:03.11 | JyZyXEL | release notes tell to do "apt-get install apt" first |
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| 13:03.31 | JyZyXEL | apt: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 is to be installed \n Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 13:03.32 | apt | JyZyXEL: that's too long |
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| 13:04.23 | JyZyXEL | that makes no sense at all |
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| 13:06.26 | petemc | JyZyXEL: whereabouts does it say that? |
| 13:06.29 | mib_21l1uv | heya |
| 13:06.31 | JyZyXEL | fuck this ill just go with the aptitude install aptitude; aptitude upgrade; aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 13:06.36 | mib_21l1uv | can anyone help me w/ this problem http://tinyurl.com/yp5ctl |
| 13:06.48 | petemc | oh, nm |
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| 13:12.35 | xarvh | question: I want to compile from tarball package XX. How do I install all the required -dev packages? |
| 13:12.47 | tty | i booted this laptop without the ac connected and now it will not make the screeen brighter when i connect the ac |
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| 13:12.57 | tty | the screen is half-brightness now |
| 13:13.06 | abrotman | xarvh: use the build-dep argument for apt-get |
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| 13:13.29 | tty | i dont know how to change the brightness manually. the fn+brightness keys dont work |
| 13:13.36 | tty | are not supported by the kernel |
| 13:13.41 | tty | which is a shame! |
| 13:13.45 | hatter_au | how do use strace like tail -f ? |
| 13:13.57 | tty | hatter_au: strace>? |
| 13:14.09 | tty | tail -f /var/log/ ? |
| 13:14.19 | et | hatter_au: strace doesn't exit until the process it is attached to exits |
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| 13:14.25 | jelly | hatter_au: what do you mean? |
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| 13:14.26 | xarvh | abrotman: thanks!!! =) |
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| 13:14.47 | hatter_au | i want to see samba permissions whilst a windows program is running |
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| 13:15.06 | hatter_au | so to leave strace running |
| 13:15.18 | et | hatter_au: as i said, strace doesn't exit before the process exits |
| 13:15.32 | hatter_au | et, ah ok. |
| 13:15.35 | jelly | hatter_au: you can strace the main smbd process and follow its children with -ff |
| 13:16.40 | hatter_au | jelly, ok, thx |
| 13:17.17 | jelly | hatter_au: also there's "log level" for smb.conf |
| 13:17.35 | hatter_au | jelly, maybe thats better |
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| 13:17.53 | jelly | man smb.conf then, I guess, /log level |
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| 13:20.59 | tty | okay guys., i shall google it |
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| 13:22.10 | MrWax | If I am root, and want to search in all dirs + subdir of the location where I am in now (/home) for a file called .list |
| 13:22.14 | MrWax | how can I do this? |
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| 13:22.47 | abrotman | MrWax: find |
| 13:23.02 | sts | hello folks! i configured my ipv6 interface using "iface eth0 inet6 static" in /etc/network/interfaces, but it seems as the interface won't come up. |
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| 13:23.48 | sts | any ideas? |
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| 13:26.06 | esteel | hmm, should a dual core cpu with hyperthreading display 4 cpus in /proc/cpuinfo? |
| 13:26.23 | esteel | my old single core comuter with HT DID display 2 after all.. |
| 13:27.00 | klync | esteel: yes |
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| 13:27.06 | abrotman | esteel: yes,unless you disable it in your BIOS or kernel configu |
| 13:27.19 | jaggz- | or if they spawn or divide again and you get 8 |
| 13:27.32 | esteel | hmm, my dual core laptop does only display 2 cores.. i wonder how to fix that |
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| 13:27.49 | esteel | i'm using the sid 2.6.29 default kernel amd64 |
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| 13:29.27 | halflife08 | esteel: did you compile the kernel yourself ? |
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| 13:29.34 | Mik1977|| | Hi to all! |
| 13:29.41 | xxtjaxx | when I'm configuring my rules file do i have to look at it as this directory or will the command started from another? |
| 13:29.43 | Mik1977|| | Ne1 have experience with postfix? |
| 13:29.56 | theholyduck | esteel, what kind of cpu you got? |
| 13:30.03 | theholyduck | i think only i7 dual cores have ht |
| 13:30.05 | module000 | Mik1977||: just ask |
| 13:30.08 | theholyduck | of ALL dual cores in existance :P |
| 13:30.17 | theholyduck | since ever :P |
| 13:30.20 | esteel | halflife08: no.. |
| 13:30.22 | module000 | !ask |
| 13:30.22 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 13:30.32 | Mik1977|| | Postfix: 8500 messages in active queue.... |
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| 13:30.43 | theholyduck | esteel, what cpu you! |
| 13:30.45 | module000 | Mik1977||: and the logs say...? |
| 13:30.50 | theholyduck | :P |
| 13:30.52 | theholyduck | have |
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| 13:31.11 | zl2tod | amd64 X2 have HT for sure. I only see two cpus in /proc/cpuinfo which seems sane to me |
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| 13:31.16 | theholyduck | zl2tod, |
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| 13:31.17 | theholyduck | no |
| 13:31.20 | theholyduck | amd NEVER had ht |
| 13:31.21 | theholyduck | ever |
| 13:31.28 | theholyduck | as in hyperthreading |
| 13:31.32 | theholyduck | it DID have hyper transport |
| 13:31.37 | theholyduck | wich is 100% unrelated |
| 13:31.47 | ShredZ | any way to run a modbus server on debian ? |
| 13:31.53 | theholyduck | and intel droppeed hyperthreading after p4 |
| 13:31.56 | esteel | theholyduck: i'm not at my laptop atm.. i just have time for some irc right now :) its an intel.. wait maybe i can get some info from the laoptop manyfacturer :) |
| 13:32.01 | module000 | Mik1977||: if it's not erroneous, you can postqueue -f to try and send all the mail in the que |
| 13:32.01 | theholyduck | but reintroduced it in i7 |
| 13:32.15 | theholyduck | soo. unless you got a p4 or older or i7intel |
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| 13:32.18 | xxtjaxx | which channel is for debian packaging? |
| 13:32.23 | esteel | theholyduck: hmm, sounds strange |
| 13:32.25 | theholyduck | you dont have hyperthreading |
| 13:32.31 | abrotman | theholyduck: lay off the enter key |
| 13:32.34 | module000 | theholyduck: i once had a 3.2 p4 with HT....i can't remember if i liked it or not |
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| 13:32.36 | Enekismo | hola |
| 13:32.39 | abrotman | xxtjaxx: here or #debian-mentors on oftc |
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| 13:32.51 | theholyduck | module000, well hyper threading isnt really THAT usefull :P |
| 13:33.03 | Enekismo | ups, this is the english debian site? |
| 13:33.06 | theholyduck | especially not how it worked in the p4 :) |
| 13:33.34 | abrotman | !es |
| 13:33.34 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:33.50 | Enekismo | thanks :D |
| 13:34.01 | xxtjaxx | abrotman i want to debianuize a program but i dont know if i have to set the current dir to where the rules file is or where the src is |
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| 13:34.46 | abrotman | xxtjaxx: the packaging guide didn't help? |
| 13:34.47 | theholyduck | esteel, well i dont think there are any intel i7 laptops yet, so really. you DONT have hyperthreading. stop lloking for it |
| 13:35.08 | xxtjaxx | abrotman dunno |
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| 13:35.45 | burn-e | hi |
| 13:35.49 | burn-e | f2: |
| 13:36.00 | esteel | theholyduck: its a INTEL T9300 |
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| 13:36.20 | theholyduck | not an i7, no ht |
| 13:36.24 | esteel | theholyduck: well i wonder why /proc/cpuinfo claims HT support then.. |
| 13:36.33 | theholyduck | esteel, who knows, it lies? |
| 13:36.43 | theholyduck | its confused, whatever |
| 13:37.14 | MrWax | abrotman: can you explain how i should use find? |
| 13:37.19 | esteel | theholyduck: then it got me confused too :P |
| 13:37.25 | abrotman | MrWax: man find ? |
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| 13:37.44 | theholyduck | fact is, no cpus produced in the last ages have ht, cept the i7. and i7's are monsterously expensive |
| 13:37.48 | abrotman | MrWax: find <where> -name *.list ? |
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| 13:38.11 | MrWax | ok |
| 13:38.13 | MrWax | yep |
| 13:38.14 | MrWax | thanks |
| 13:38.29 | esteel | theholyduck: gnah.. i think you are right.. http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupId=33917 |
| 13:38.45 | adb | esteel: test .26 , .29 maybe wrong |
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| 13:39.22 | theholyduck | esteel, well we knew that from the start didnt we? |
| 13:39.22 | Duddle | please help :( i dist-upgraded to lenny and now nothing works... can I downgrade? |
| 13:39.28 | theholyduck | Duddle, no :P |
| 13:39.41 | Duddle | seriously? |
| 13:39.41 | theholyduck | Duddle, better off trying to fix it |
| 13:39.41 | abrotman | Duddle: what is "nothing" ? |
| 13:39.46 | esteel | theholyduck: you maybe.. i'm more sceptical by nature ^_^ |
| 13:39.48 | xxtjaxx | where is the debian developers refrence |
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| 13:39.59 | abrotman | !tell xxtjaxx about mg |
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| 13:40.11 | Duddle | well, mysql does not work for apache1.3... then I found that apache1.3 is not supported |
| 13:40.19 | theholyduck | Duddle, there is no system for reverting configs or antyhing like that to previous versions in debian ;P |
| 13:40.24 | htmlol | hey guys, quick question: is there any way to control the lights on my laptop? |
| 13:40.25 | abrotman | apache1 has been removed in lenny |
| 13:40.25 | theholyduck | Duddle, get apache2 then? |
| 13:40.30 | GBGames | If I do free -m, and it shows 1011 in the total column, that means it thinks I have a total of 1011 MB? |
| 13:40.30 | htmlol | I just want to turn some off. |
| 13:40.33 | GBGames | of RAM? |
| 13:40.36 | abrotman | htmlol: depends which lights |
| 13:40.41 | htmlol | specifically, the annoying wireless activity light |
| 13:40.51 | abrotman | GBGames: sounds reasonable |
| 13:40.51 | Duddle | yes, I'm trying to configure apache2 right now |
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| 13:40.58 | htmlol | it goes on when the wireless card is on and it goes off when its not |
| 13:41.15 | htmlol | but understandably I need to keep the wireless card on... |
| 13:41.17 | GBGames | abrotman: Ok, so something is wrong because I just threw 2GB in there for a total of 2.5GB |
| 13:41.19 | \amethyst | xxtjaxx: http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ is the developer's ref; http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ is Policy; and you already got the link for the new maintainers' guide |
| 13:41.22 | Duddle | how can I check which app listens on 8080? apache2 says its already bound? |
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| 13:41.35 | abrotman | GBGames: huh? |
| 13:41.42 | abrotman | Duddle: lsof or fuser |
| 13:41.45 | xxtjaxx | goofd |
| 13:41.54 | esteel | theholyduck: still, thanks... /me goes off cursing at /prco/cpuinfo :P |
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| 13:41.57 | GBGames | abrotman: I just upgraded my machine, so I expected it to find all the RAM. Something is obviously wrong. |
| 13:41.58 | \amethyst | Duddle: netstat -pant | grep 8080 as root |
| 13:42.00 | jelly | GBGames: uname -r? |
| 13:42.11 | Duddle | its empty :/ |
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| 13:42.19 | \amethyst | Duddle: are you running it as root? |
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| 13:42.22 | Duddle | yes |
| 13:42.25 | \amethyst | hm |
| 13:42.28 | Duddle | wait |
| 13:42.37 | Duddle | i will paste the full error msg tp pastey |
| 13:42.40 | GBGames | jelly: 2.6.26-1-686 |
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| 13:43.02 | Duddle | http://pastey.net/112333 |
| 13:43.06 | abrotman | GBGames: put the output of `free -m && cat /proc/meminfo` in a pastebin |
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| 13:43.10 | jelly | GBGames: hm. Ok, that kernel is supposed to be able to use up to 3.4GB |
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| 13:43.24 | GBGames | abrotman: Ok |
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| 13:43.30 | Duddle | I have basically taken the apache1.3 configs and changed all entries to apache2, and Port to 8080 |
| 13:43.56 | CharminTheMoose | Is it possible for me to remount my / partition readonly and then fsck it? |
| 13:44.30 | jelly | CharminTheMoose: not really |
| 13:44.33 | \amethyst | Duddle: perhaps you have stuff duplicated between apache2.conf, ports.conf, and httpd.conf ? |
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| 13:44.51 | patrikf | CharminTheMoose: I think that's not possible if applications have files open in writing modes |
| 13:45.09 | patrikf | (otherwise, mount -o remount,ro /) |
| 13:45.24 | Duddle | yes \amethyst , fixed it... but now I get sooooo many php-errors :( |
| 13:45.29 | jelly | CharminTheMoose: well, you can, but you have to reboot immediately afterwards, so you might as well reboot (into single user mode) first, and then fsck |
| 13:45.33 | Duddle | is php avaiable for apache2? |
| 13:45.35 | Duddle | for lenny |
| 13:45.39 | GBGames | abrotman: http://rafb.net/p/5SR7xv75.html |
| 13:46.02 | abrotman | GBGames: and your BIOS sees it all? |
| 13:46.12 | htmlol | I know there -is- a way to control the lights, because I remember an appliction doing it before |
| 13:46.21 | Duddle | s/is php/is php4/ |
| 13:46.36 | jelly | Duddle: php4 is gone from lenny |
| 13:46.38 | GBGames | abrotman: I don't think so. I think when it came up, I saw 1036100 in the memory test at POST. |
| 13:46.51 | GBGames | I am going to reboot the machine and see if I have to do anything in the BIOS. |
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| 13:47.15 | jelly | GBGames: sounds like that's all you get, then. you could try switching the module places? |
| 13:47.17 | abrotman | GBGames: you sure the mobo supports more than 1GB ? |
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| 13:48.44 | Duddle | does anyone know if php-includes depend on the server port? or do I have to somehow configure the php5-mod for apache2 to use 8080 while I try and get it running? |
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| 13:49.56 | abrotman | Duddle: if you have hrefs like a="http://your.server/foo/page.php" .. they won't work |
| 13:50.00 | GBGames | abrotman: When I purchased the memory online, I believe I saw that it did. I'll double check and hopefully won't be very upset with myself. |
| 13:50.10 | abrotman | GBGames: what is the mobo model? |
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| 13:50.52 | Duddle | it seems like the site I'm trying to run is coded so badly it depends on some special configurations (include_path)... I have to fix this :( |
| 13:51.43 | GBGames | abrotman: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=1666&ProductName=GA-7VT600 |
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| 13:52.43 | GBGames | Looks like I might have to try each memory module separately. |
| 13:52.49 | GBGames | Grrrr. |
| 13:53.04 | CharminTheMoose | that worked out. thanks guys |
| 13:53.05 | Duddle | ok, site is running |
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| 13:53.18 | Duddle | thanks guys so far |
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| 13:53.36 | Duddle | I've gone from "nearly crying" to "still shocked" |
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| 13:53.52 | Duddle | now i need to enable mysql |
| 13:53.56 | abrotman | waits for more crying |
| 13:54.25 | bsdnux | i'm writing a java program that should call rsync. i'm using some "trilead ssh2 library" to create a ssh tunnel to a remote rsyncd. on the command line when i specify "ssh -L 8730:127.0.0.1:873 user@domain" for the tunnel, "rsync -zaH --progress localpath rsync://localhost:8730/site/" works fine. but with the "trilead ssh2 lib" tunnel i get |
| 13:54.28 | abrotman | GBGames: might want to check your manual .. i've seen some from that era that if you use ddr400 can't do the full memory usage |
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| 13:54.53 | GBGames | abrotman: Ok, I took out the 512MB module, and now it recognizes the 2 x 1GB modules. |
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| 13:54.57 | bsdnux | "rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at /SourceCache/rsync/rsync-35.2/rsync/io.c(452) [sender=2.6.9]" on stderr. any hints? |
| 13:55.01 | abrotman | GBGames: cute |
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| 13:55.43 | GBGames | abrotman: I wonder if it is due to the 2 x 1GB modules being one brand while the 512MB is another, or if you can't have different sized modules together. |
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| 13:55.55 | GBGames | Either way, I have 2GB working at least. |
| 13:56.06 | GBGames | *sigh* Thanks for your help |
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| 13:59.49 | seghezzi | http://randomkiller.elbruto.es |
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| 14:00.19 | abrotman | uh oh .. he's back |
| 14:00.25 | GBGames | *sigh* Not so fast, self. |
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| 14:00.47 | htmlol | so, nobody knows anything about turning the wireless light off on an hp laptop... |
| 14:00.52 | GBGames | Yeah, now it seems that there was a kernel panic. Keep in mind, the system booted before when it only recognized about 1GB of memory. |
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| 14:01.09 | GBGames | I rebooted, and it is sitting at the "Booting to kernel." message. |
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| 14:01.55 | lancelot | hallo everybody |
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| 14:02.46 | zl2tod | GBGames, reset failsafe defaults in the bios ? |
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| 14:03.28 | GBGames | zl2tod: I just tried recovery mode from grub. I see No filesystem could mount root, tried: |
| 14:03.37 | GBGames | It lists all partitions...and sees none apparently. |
| 14:03.53 | GBGames | Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0, 0) |
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| 14:04.59 | zl2tod | GBGames, perhaps the disk is hosed ... tried a cd ? |
| 14:05.04 | GBGames | http://kerneltrap.org/node/7053#comment-219983 |
| 14:06.03 | GBGames | *sigh* so the memory might be bad. Now I have to find a way to do a memtest. |
| 14:06.06 | abrotman | all from changing RAM ? |
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| 14:07.16 | zl2tod | checked the disk cable ? |
| 14:07.33 | abrotman | GBGames: that's a seriously confusing manual |
| 14:07.36 | Baneo | what would you suggest would be the easiest way of going about merging two paritions? |
| 14:07.40 | lancelot | i'm trying to print a correctly visualized pdf document with formulae and graphs but for the first time when sent to the printer instead of graphs only black stains are printed..this problem is independent of visualizer software (acroread, evince, xpdf)...any suggestion? |
| 14:07.47 | abrotman | !unionfs |
| 14:07.48 | dpkg | methinks unionfs is union filesystem is mainly used in Live-CD systems or diskless systems, where the read-only root directory is combined (joined) with tmpfs filesystem (which resides in memory and is writable). http://www.am-utils.org/project-unionfs.html & http://www.unionfs.org/unionfs/ . Its weird. |
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| 14:09.05 | lancelot | another hint...that's the only document i'm in pain with.....the others are printed correctly |
| 14:09.16 | GBGames | abrotman: We'll see if knoppix 3.6 comes up. |
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| 14:10.52 | Gryfelhase | There are several java* files in /etc/alternatives (onl lenny). How do I change it to a (already installed) java-sun ? |
| 14:11.05 | abrotman | update-java-alternatives ? |
| 14:11.07 | Gryfelhase | (Ok, setting the link, but to all this java* files ? |
| 14:11.16 | Gryfelhase | ah, ok, thanks |
| 14:11.31 | GBGames | Woooo! memtest on Knoppix 3.6 says that none of the tests are passing! |
| 14:11.42 | GBGames | How is it running? |
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| 14:13.00 | module000 | trouble tickets are adding up...i can feel the bofh fighting to get out |
| 14:13.31 | lancelot | any suggestion for my trouble? |
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| 14:13.59 | zl2tod | lancelot, try a different pdf viewer |
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| 14:14.42 | smacnay | in sid, to migrate from the nvidia 174xx drivers to 180xx, do I need to remove all nvidia-glx and other 174 files and start a new install with m-a? |
| 14:14.47 | lancelot | zl2tod, as i wrote the problem is independent on viewer |
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| 14:16.42 | Young_ | Hi! I'm having problems to login in "Windows Live Messenger" through Squid. Seems it can't access my contact list, which (according to the official site) is provided by "https://*.contacts.msn.com". The user I'm using doesn't have limitations. Do I need any special configuration for https access? |
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| 14:17.35 | grirgz | hi |
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| 14:18.10 | Gryfelhase | ok.... is it a known bug, that java gcj don't compile/start even simple swing examples ? |
| 14:18.15 | grirgz | i dont know what happened, but now iceweasel have super tiny fonts, do you know which package i should install/upgrade ? (or a command ?) |
| 14:18.45 | module000 | grirgz: there is a keyboard shortcut...control+<plus-sign> i believe to increase font size..and a menu option. |
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| 14:19.39 | grirgz | no, not the police of the page, only the police of the menu and entry bar |
| 14:19.46 | grirgz | url bar |
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| 14:22.02 | Honros | hello |
| 14:22.04 | Honros | all |
| 14:22.11 | Honros | :) |
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| 14:22.54 | muh2000 | damn system locks up when logging in at a windows workstation connected to a samba domain. :/ issue is new since the last update of samba in lenny. |
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| 14:23.26 | muh2000 | and reproducable... |
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| 14:23.40 | Duddle | abrotman, \amethyst : thanks again for your great help earlier, I've got apache under control now, mysql is running, all other services are too |
| 14:23.55 | Duddle | byebye and have a great day |
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| 14:24.32 | grirgz | this is not the first time that all my X apps get super tiny fonts, i believe there is a rational explication |
| 14:25.20 | module000 | grirgz: your WM has a default font type/size/style...etc... look there? |
| 14:25.48 | module000 | grirgz: perhaps the font your app is requesting is not [any longer] existant, so it's falling back on something less preferable |
| 14:26.05 | grirgz | i think it's what happening |
| 14:26.24 | module000 | this is with iceweasel right? |
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| 14:26.33 | grirgz | yes |
| 14:27.52 | module000 | grirgz: in the menu..."Edit" -> "Content", see which font is default |
| 14:27.58 | module000 | grirgz: make sure you have that font installed next ;] |
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| 14:33.28 | grirgz | module000: i can't see what font used, it's too small :p |
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| 14:33.51 | grirgz | i tryed others fonts in the list, it the same |
| 14:35.13 | grirgz | i have upgraded xfonts-base and it says : warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a director |
| 14:35.56 | module000 | grirgz: hrm.. |
| 14:36.40 | module000 | grirgz: maybe it wants /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc to exist, then reinstall xfonts-base? sounds like it wants to dump the fonts[or symlinks to them] there |
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| 14:37.59 | boghog | anyone know how to get connection tracking with iptables if you're inside an openvz container and the host node doesn't have conntrack loaded? |
| 14:38.22 | boghog | not sure if there alternative ways of doing it |
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| 14:38.30 | gravity | grirgz: The fonts should be under /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc on a Debian system |
| 14:38.57 | boghog | i just want to drop all incoming traffic except new connections to some services, and packets belonging to existing connections to services |
| 14:39.08 | jetscreamer | hey so what's the type1 deal, why do i/we still get the EE |
| 14:39.30 | module000 | boghog: ie...you want to allow existing connections, and drop everything not explicitly allowed? |
| 14:39.45 | boghog | module000, pretty much yeah |
| 14:40.27 | boghog | module000, I have a firewall script that normally sets it up the way I want, but it depends on conntrack, which my current environment doesn't provide :/ |
| 14:40.46 | module000 | boghog: look at mine: http://pastebin.com/m6c2e5354 |
| 14:41.10 | module000 | boghog: that deny's everything that you don't see declared, all those -A INPUT lines are things i explicitly allow, you can remove those |
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| 14:41.38 | boghog | alright, thanks module000 |
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| 14:42.05 | cleber | hi |
| 14:42.11 | maligor | anyone god any good ideas why /var/lib/apt/lists/lock would be read only? |
| 14:42.30 | jetscreamer | other package manager open/you're not root |
| 14:42.37 | jetscreamer | oh nm |
| 14:42.42 | jetscreamer | wrong place |
| 14:42.44 | cps0 | i had a problem with the last upgrade from xorg packages in sid |
| 14:42.45 | boghog | module000, ah looks like your setup depends on conntrack as well :/ (-m state ESTABLISHED,NEW etc) |
| 14:42.52 | cps0 | where the best place to report them? |
| 14:42.56 | cps0 | or to get help? |
| 14:43.04 | jetscreamer | cps0: just apt-get install xorg |
| 14:43.06 | cps0 | my X do not work since this update |
| 14:43.13 | jetscreamer | and gnome-session if you use gnome |
| 14:43.23 | cps0 | but I had this packages before |
| 14:43.24 | maligor | jetscreamer, well... yes, it's just that I'm root, and it's rw for owner(root) |
| 14:43.26 | module000 | boghog: hrm..i wasn't aware of that. i've never done them any other way...but that iptables is inside a openvz vm |
| 14:43.27 | cps0 | and all was working |
| 14:43.33 | jetscreamer | cps0: yes.. so did i. |
| 14:43.42 | mns | What headers are looked at in order to determine where a bounced email should go to ? Is the "From " or "From: " or "Sender: " or "Reply-to: " ? |
| 14:43.48 | cps0 | after upgrading the X stopped working |
| 14:43.50 | maligor | oh.. read only filesystem.. how's that even possible |
| 14:44.15 | boghog | module000, I guess the real problem is that my openvz host node doesn't have the conntrack module, so I suppose I will just ask if they are willing to load it :D |
| 14:44.17 | jetscreamer | cps0: yes, but if you apt-get install xorg (or aptitude install xorg) it wil work again |
| 14:44.22 | module000 | boghog: who is your host? |
| 14:44.33 | gravity | cps0: There's some problems in unstable currently |
| 14:44.47 | boghog | module000, www.xenvz.co.uk |
| 14:44.51 | gravity | cps0: Check out http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/CurrentProblemsInUnstable for the latest |
| 14:44.53 | jetscreamer | thus spake zarathrustra :) |
| 14:45.05 | gravity | cps0: What exactly isn't working for you? |
| 14:45.09 | cps0 | my video card is an intel 965 |
| 14:45.13 | cps0 | oh tanks |
| 14:45.17 | cps0 | i' wll check this link |
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| 14:45.27 | maligor | oh.. I need a fsck |
| 14:45.35 | module000 | boghog: i like your prices better than mine...i'm using vpslink.com |
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| 14:45.57 | jetscreamer | x-strike-force always sounded cool to me |
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| 14:46.23 | cps0 | after upgrade my notebook, aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade, I saw some xorg packages been upgraded |
| 14:46.38 | cps0 | after this, when I restarted the machine the X do not open |
| 14:46.44 | boghog | module000, yeah it was so cheap Ijust had to try it for a month or two, I've never rented a VPS before |
| 14:46.47 | cps0 | and the log says some backtrace messages |
| 14:47.00 | jetscreamer | yes i believe you. but if you just install xorg again... |
| 14:47.27 | jetscreamer | goes away, to go to work :/ |
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| 14:48.34 | cps0 | I just tried reinstalling xo |
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| 14:48.41 | cps0 | xorg , but did not work |
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| 14:48.55 | gravity | Yeah, it shouldn't |
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| 14:49.06 | gravity | cps0: Could you file a bug against xserver-xorg-core using the reportbug program? |
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| 14:49.13 | gravity | (NOT reportbug-ng) |
| 14:49.37 | gravity | cps0: It'll be much easier to deal with it then |
| 14:49.40 | abrotman | gravity: that XAA/EXA/UXA thing reads like a syonpsis of Guiding Light |
| 14:50.01 | gravity | abrotman: I don't really know what that means... |
| 14:50.11 | abrotman | Guiding Light is a soap opera |
| 14:50.24 | cps0 | gravity: i' ll |
| 14:50.36 | liable | not that he watches it.. |
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| 14:50.39 | abrotman | oh .. jeez .. synopsis |
| 14:50.40 | gravity | ah |
| 14:51.14 | gravity | Well, yeah... that acutally makes a lot of sense given the politics over the acceleration subsystem for the past few years |
| 14:51.35 | abrotman | gravity: i'm just waiting for XAA and UXA to have a secret love child and run off to reno to get married |
| 14:52.16 | gravity | That's a horrific thought |
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| 14:56.39 | maligor | is there any tool to search for missing files that should be installed? |
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| 14:56.50 | maligor | just had some nasty filesystem corruption |
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| 14:57.19 | Mood | apt-get install update/upgrade? |
| 14:57.50 | maligor | I mean installed files that got lost in the corruption, as in match the dpkg file lists with existing files |
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| 15:00.07 | xxtjaxx | Hey people is qt and boost DFSG compliant= |
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| 15:00.17 | xxtjaxx | ? |
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| 15:01.20 | abrotman | xxtjaxx: they're in debian |
| 15:01.57 | cps0 | hi |
| 15:02.09 | grirgz | is it normal that the hal package is broken in sid ? |
| 15:02.12 | cps0 | gravity: I checked the link u send me |
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| 15:02.23 | xxtjaxx | abrotman, this doesnt mean they are completley compliant and in main |
| 15:02.27 | cps0 | there is a note there about XAA |
| 15:02.32 | cps0 | that solve my problem |
| 15:02.37 | abrotman | xxtjaxx: AFAIK yes |
| 15:02.44 | abrotman | !bts |
| 15:02.44 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges>. |
| 15:03.21 | cps0 | and changed my xorg.conf, replacing the AccelMethod from XAA to UXA and now the X is working again |
| 15:03.57 | gravity | cps0: Ok, great. So you had set XAA manually? |
| 15:04.01 | cps0 | as I' m using kernel 2.6.29 as noted there, i did not had problem |
| 15:04.05 | jetscreamer | worked just fine for me.. i'll leave my fix to myself |
| 15:04.20 | jetscreamer | must be the power of dselect |
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| 15:04.33 | jetscreamer | >aptitude |
| 15:04.34 | grirgz | abrotman: thanks |
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| 15:06.04 | jetscreamer | is really away now |
| 15:06.47 | grirgz | i have tested gedit, it have the same super tiny font problem that iceweasel, i've reinstalled xfonts-base and even xorg, i dont understand how all this font stuff work, could someone help me please ? |
| 15:07.00 | Manoj | is anyone having problems with the latest make-kpkg? have there been people coming in with reports? |
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| 15:07.25 | jetscreamer | or would it be the power of dselect + nvidia-installer ? |
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| 15:09.20 | abrotman | Manoj: a guy was in here earlier complaining he used make-kpkg in sid and it turned his dog pink |
| 15:09.53 | Manoj | heh. k-p prefers pink dogs⦠|
| 15:13.17 | roe_ | I'm trying to get flash 10 working in iceweasel (installing from sid) but flash blocks don't display anything, under "Add-ons" I do have "Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22" enabled |
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| 15:15.25 | halflife08 | hello folks, i am doing host discovery on the local network using nmap, while i have nmap -p 22 to discover all the ssh ports, the output is verbose, i rather have the output to be hostname, open , can this done be done natively in nmap or needs post processing |
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| 15:19.58 | cps0 | gravity: yes, i set XAA manually in the xorg.conf config file |
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| 15:21.09 | gravity | ok |
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| 15:22.29 | cps0 | thanks for the help |
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| 15:25.15 | |kush| | does the debian minimum cd iso work nicely? |
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| 15:27.04 | trifler | anyone know of a program which you can rotate a .jpg picture with in cli-mode? |
| 15:27.37 | liable | trifler: imagemagik has a rotate program |
| 15:27.51 | epsilon | convert should do it |
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| 15:28.22 | epsilon | (which is part of imagemagic) |
| 15:28.36 | Kobaz | imagemagick |
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| 15:29.37 | epsilon | .oO imagemagique? |
| 15:30.26 | Kobaz | heh, no... just imagemagick |
| 15:30.45 | grirgz | hi |
| 15:30.55 | grirgz | i have resolved my font problem |
| 15:30.57 | Kobaz | ii imagemagick 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-1 Image manipulation programs |
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| 15:30.59 | trifler | anyone know the commands or do I have to look it up <napoleon dynamite> ahhhh </naopleon dynamite> |
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| 15:31.40 | Kobaz | -rotate |
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| 15:32.50 | grirgz | however, now, i have the strangest problem ever seen : under X, if i type the letter A, X understand ctrl-A, but the next letter will be understood correctly, for exemple if i type hello, X will understand ctrl-H e ctrl-L l ctrl-O, strange no ? |
| 15:32.53 | roe_ | do I need to do something other than "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" to install the plugin for iceweasel? |
| 15:33.16 | roe_ | nm |
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| 15:37.54 | jair | guys If I am on vim and used [ctrl+v] selected a block and wan to move the whole block to the right couple of columns what will be the command? I try yanking the lines but just copy them I am looking for something more like cutting the block |
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| 15:40.54 | Gryfelhase | grirgz, : I guess there is durt in your keyboard |
| 15:41.03 | Gryfelhase | tried another keyboard? |
| 15:41.07 | Gryfelhase | A Livecd ? |
| 15:41.13 | grirgz | Gryfelhase: no, it work nice on text-mode |
| 15:41.40 | grirgz | Gryfelhase: when i launch X, xkbcomp show a lot of errors |
| 15:41.44 | Gryfelhase | ok, so I don't have an idea |
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| 15:43.06 | halflife08 | hello folks, i am using lenny and when i run handbrake-gtk from console i get this error (handbrake-gtk:8236): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_io_channel_set_encoding: assertion `channel != NULL' failed can some one shed info, google.com didn't shed light on this |
| 15:43.16 | gravity | grirgz: What version of Debian are you running? Is this unstable? |
| 15:43.30 | grirgz | sid |
| 15:43.36 | halflife08 | i am using lenny |
| 15:43.45 | gravity | grirgz: Do you have any customizations with something like xmodmap? |
| 15:44.26 | gravity | Or xbindkeys? |
| 15:44.33 | grirgz | no |
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| 15:45.12 | gravity | grirgz: Ok, that's strange. Can you file a bug against xserver-xorg-core using the reportbug (NOT reportbug-ng)? |
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| 15:46.53 | grirgz | gravity: in fact my system is pretty old (one year) i only upgrade software that i need, do you think this can be the cause ? |
| 15:47.24 | grirgz | ( ~ 1000 packages to be upgraded) |
| 15:47.27 | gravity | grirgz: Did you upgrade X, hal, and console-setup? |
| 15:47.41 | gravity | grirgz: And yes, it probably is. |
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| 15:47.57 | gravity | Well... possibly. I honestly am not sure. |
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| 15:48.21 | grirgz | yes, xorg xserver-xorg hal and console-setup are up to date |
| 15:48.48 | daedhel | need some help here... I'm using sidux. Since I installed acpi-support (I don,t really know if this is related) when GDM start "in init 5", the keyboard and mouse aren't responding |
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| 15:49.38 | gravity | grirgz: What about the rest of the X packages? |
| 15:50.12 | gravity | grirgz: Also, are you running Gnome or KDE? Or something else? |
| 15:50.14 | grirgz | gravity: i don't know, what are the others packages ? |
| 15:50.21 | gravity | grirgz: There's a lot of them. |
| 15:50.24 | grirgz | gravity: i'm running ion3 |
| 15:50.27 | Peanut | Hi - trying to create a small, signed debian archive. I use dpkg-scanpackages to create Packages.gz, create a toplevel Release with 'apt-ftparchive release' and then sign the new Release file. However, clients that have this key in their 'apt-key list' still complain that the packages cannot be authenticated. |
| 15:50.34 | grirgz | gravity: they are not in de dependencies ? |
| 15:50.36 | gravity | grirgz: Ok, that shouldn't be a problem |
| 15:50.39 | grirgz | s/de/the |
| 15:50.45 | gravity | grirgz: They should be |
| 15:50.56 | gravity | grirgz: Anyway, please file a bug report |
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| 15:51.27 | grirgz | gravity: i will do a system upgrade before |
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| 15:52.47 | grirgz | and maybe reconfigure X |
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| 15:53.47 | grirgz | hopefuly i'm a console-mode addict, losing X is not a problem =) |
| 15:54.02 | grirgz | if the problem persist, i will fill a bug report |
| 15:54.06 | gravity | grirgz: Ok, great. |
| 15:54.29 | troythetechguy | I set a static IP on my debian box by editing /etc/network/interfaces. I restarted networking services by entering /etc/init.d/networking restart, but my IP is still dynamic. How do I make the change w/ out restarting the entire box? |
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| 15:56.30 | abrotman | troythetechguy: that should do it |
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| 15:57.16 | troythetechguy | abrotman: Thanks. Might I have to set something on the router to allow the workstation to have static vs. dynamic IP? |
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| 16:00.25 | bit0 | hello. Thanks for gnome-session-2.26!, it works :) |
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| 16:02.08 | MrWax | Hey, i'm considering installing dual boot (together debian with windows vista) on my new hdd for my desktop - any particular installation sort is recommended? |
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| 16:05.55 | abrotman | troythetechguy: if the machine isn't requesting it .. shouldn't be doing that |
| 16:06.16 | Gryfelhase | MrwAX: Windiows-Partition on the first partition |
| 16:06.30 | MrWax | Gryfelhase: how so |
| 16:07.03 | Gryfelhase | mrWax: Did you ever partitioned a harddisc ? |
| 16:07.09 | MrWax | yes |
| 16:07.14 | MrWax | quite a while back though |
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| 16:07.22 | MrWax | but wasn't that hard from what i remember |
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| 16:07.33 | Gryfelhase | So your question was, what tool ? |
| 16:07.37 | MrWax | yes |
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| 16:07.59 | Gryfelhase | I prefer cfdisk as a root |
| 16:08.12 | MrWax | so debian first then you suggest? |
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| 16:08.41 | Gryfelhase | Ah..... I thought you have installed debian at the moment |
| 16:08.54 | Gryfelhase | or a 2nd hd installed with debian |
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| 16:09.32 | MrWax | no no just a new single hdd for in my desktop |
| 16:09.46 | MrWax | grub is best as boot handler? |
| 16:09.52 | MrWax | and set debian as primary in mbr? |
| 16:10.01 | Gryfelhase | If you install a fresh window, you can choose on the installer to create a parition |
| 16:10.12 | MrWax | yes |
| 16:10.26 | Gryfelhase | so I'd choose the size I wisch with this installer |
| 16:10.40 | Gryfelhase | install windows |
| 16:11.14 | Gryfelhase | add an seperate partition for windwos virtual memory |
| 16:11.15 | grirgz | no, install debian! |
| 16:11.20 | grirgz | --> [] |
| 16:11.39 | Gryfelhase | grirgz, : The ibnstalatiion ordr, if he wish duualboot |
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| 16:12.16 | grirgz | Gryfelhase: sorry, i just say crap :$ |
| 16:12.18 | Gryfelhase | Mr Wax, I use grub, but grup shut detect windows |
| 16:12.39 | Gryfelhase | and imßort it, if you install debian |
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| 16:13.16 | Gryfelhase | and a seperate partiton for (windows my documents) |
| 16:13.29 | MrWax | detect windows? |
| 16:13.31 | MrWax | how do you mean |
| 16:13.45 | MrWax | i dont understand last sentences |
| 16:13.59 | Brack10 | I want to make my debian box beep annoyingly when someone pushes the power button. However, both echo -e "\a" and beep don't work....I know the PC speaker works because it beeps on startup.. any ideas? |
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| 16:14.02 | Gryfelhase | If you install windows, and then debian (with grub) |
| 16:14.15 | jelly | MrWax: when grub is installed, it usually finds a present windows installation and adds it to the menu |
| 16:14.21 | Gryfelhase | grub finds windows, and will choosse you a menu, taht shows windows and debian |
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| 16:14.38 | MrWax | ok cool |
| 16:14.43 | MrWax | so if I install windows first |
| 16:14.48 | MrWax | and then later debian after that |
| 16:14.53 | MrWax | it should all be ok] |
| 16:14.55 | Gryfelhase | yes |
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| 16:15.16 | grirgz | Brack10: everybody want to disable it and you want to enable it ? :p |
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| 16:16.02 | Brack10 | grigz: yes so that if someone tries to power it off and they push the power button, they understand that I don't want them to because it beeps annoyingly at them |
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| 16:16.14 | grirgz | Brack10: i suggest you to look at "how to disable it" and do the reverse |
| 16:16.23 | Brack10 | lul |
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| 16:16.49 | Brack10 | actually I think I'm just going to have it play a wav file of a cat hissing since it has an internal audio speaker |
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| 16:17.41 | grirgz | Brack10: i've heard there are linux box which say "No, you turn off!" when you push the power button :p |
| 16:17.42 | cahoot | why not an educational message then? |
| 16:18.24 | Brack10 | I could play random simpsons quotes |
| 16:18.31 | Brack10 | god damn I'm such a nerd |
| 16:18.37 | grirgz | cahoot: educational ? like "brush your teets every days!" ? |
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| 16:18.54 | jelly | brush my ... teats? |
| 16:19.32 | grirgz | sorry if it's not the correct spelling, i am not english native |
| 16:19.36 | Brack10 | I'm afraid I cannot do that, dave is the best |
| 16:19.42 | Brack10 | I'm doing that |
| 16:19.51 | Brack10 | get it? Cuz it's a computer? |
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| 16:20.50 | grirgz | no |
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| 16:21.20 | ericP | i installed linux-image-2.6.29-1-686 a while ago and the kernel couldn't find my root file system |
| 16:21.28 | ericP | my drive and ext2 root fs (sda2) are pretty generic. any idea what module my initrd would be missing? |
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| 16:22.28 | jelly | ericP: is there an usb drive or something else plugged in that might be misdetected as /dev/sda instead of your boot disk? |
| 16:22.38 | ericP | ( i have another 'puter avail for irc so i could reboot into 2.6.29 to give real-time answers re: what my ramfs can tell us ) |
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| 16:23.16 | ericP | jelly, all ports are empty. nothing wierd in my Dell D820 apart from my (hey!) fingerprint reader |
| 16:23.34 | jelly | I guess that's not a bootable device |
| 16:23.34 | ericP | s'pose it could be that? |
| 16:23.56 | ericP | depends what's on 0,0 of your finger, no? |
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| 16:24.29 | jelly | perhaps you can tap in some Morse encoded binary |
| 16:24.45 | enouf | use punch cards |
| 16:24.48 | ericP | expects RSI |
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| 16:25.10 | enouf | s/RSI/RFI/ ? |
| 16:25.23 | ericP | repetative stress injury |
| 16:25.23 | enouf | er RFID :-P |
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| 16:25.29 | ericP | ahh |
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| 16:26.48 | enouf | !can't mount root |
| 16:26.48 | dpkg | If you can't mount the root file system when you boot your custom kernel, it means you have failed to include support for either: (a) your root file system (e.g. ext3), or (b) your disk controller (IDE, SCSI, etc.). These cannot be modules, unless you use an initrd. Go check your config again. or make sure your bootloader knows about your initrd |
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| 16:27.51 | ericP | so grub knows initrd, and /boot/initrd.img-2.6.29-1-686 is non-empty |
| 16:28.15 | ericP | i can re-build the initrd, but i have no idea what module it would be missing |
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| 16:28.28 | jelly | "try it and see" |
| 16:28.36 | enouf | ericP: got symlinks in / pointing to both (vmlinuz and initrd) of those? |
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| 16:29.53 | ericP | enouf, yeah, /initrd and /vmlinux to /boot/{initrd.img,vmlinux}-2.6.29-1-686 |
| 16:30.44 | ericP | that's a slight assumption. i reverted back to 2.6.26, so i'm examining the /{vminuz,initrd}.old links |
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| 16:31.00 | enouf | ericP: well.. the kernel loads, and then cant find/mount rootfs, you're missing modules then in the initrd IME |
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| 16:31.11 | ericP | "IME"? |
| 16:31.15 | enouf | !ime |
| 16:31.15 | dpkg | ime is, like, in my experience |
| 16:31.36 | enouf | er ..that should say; s/experience/estimation |
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| 16:31.47 | ericP | got that, dpkg? |
| 16:31.59 | enouf | <--there, closed the sed for jelly :-P |
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| 16:32.07 | enouf | bah .. here; / |
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| 16:32.26 | ericP | nice |
| 16:32.32 | enouf | dpkg: ime is also , or in my estimation |
| 16:32.32 | dpkg | enouf: okay |
| 16:32.53 | ericP | enouf, how do i un(tar,zip,ar,whatever) an initrd to examine it? |
| 16:32.53 | jelly | enouf: I'm ignoring you half the time, so no need for that! :> |
| 16:33.12 | enouf | jelly: only half? i feel honored now! :-p |
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| 16:35.45 | petemc | enouf: experience isnt the same thing as estimation |
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| 16:38.00 | Suppermann | msg dpkg lennyr1 |
| 16:38.03 | Suppermann | damn |
| 16:38.03 | jelly | petemc: what about an Educated guess, then! |
| 16:38.33 | petemc | i guess that could work.. |
| 16:38.47 | petemc | ive really just never heard of ime == in my experience, maybe i need to get out more |
| 16:38.57 | petemc | gah, i mean estimation |
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| 16:39.34 | enouf | guesstimates petemc 's experience :-) |
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| 16:40.00 | vyrus001 | how do i insert a newline char using find and replace in nano? |
| 16:40.09 | petemc | :) |
| 16:40.10 | jelly | IME I've only heard the experience version as well |
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| 16:40.23 | grirgz | the estimation is based on experience |
| 16:40.41 | grirgz | so this is the same finaly |
| 16:40.45 | ericP | it's not "in my e-Opinion" ? |
| 16:40.58 | Suppermann | estimate*, amiright? |
| 16:41.00 | enouf | ericP: absotively not |
| 16:41.03 | enouf | :-P |
| 16:41.11 | ericP | well, that's your e-opinion |
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| 16:41.40 | enouf | IMHe-O? .. nah, doesn't flow |
| 16:41.47 | ericP | used to be revolted by e-*, be (d)evolved to just being amused |
| 16:41.48 | jelly | grirgz: I'm not sure that "in my estimation" is an optimal English construct. "I estimate ..." or "my estimation is [that]..." sound better |
| 16:42.09 | jelly | ericP: you bought an iPhone, didn't you. |
| 16:42.16 | grirgz | ok |
| 16:42.27 | ericP | and i-* as well |
| 16:42.28 | enouf | shows jelly how to properly construct things |
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| 16:43.04 | enouf | im my estimation is perfectly legimate english, i know, i speak english :-P |
| 16:43.04 | ericP | http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Initrd indicates that i should be able to mount an initrd without supplying a fs type. my (very recent) experience runs contrary to that |
| 16:43.06 | jelly | AFAIK, IME is a well known idiom. |
| 16:43.13 | ericP | anyone know what fs an initrd image is? |
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| 16:43.33 | enouf | ericP: it's an gzipped cpio archive |
| 16:43.35 | Suppermann | http://www.epinion.dk/ |
| 16:43.39 | jelly | ericP: debian's initramfs images are cpio |
| 16:43.39 | enouf | s/an/a/ |
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| 16:43.48 | troythetechguy | I got the static IP I assigned to stick by rebooting the machine. |
| 16:43.55 | enouf | ericP: older mkinitrd's were usually ext2 or whatever |
| 16:43.57 | ericP | huh, why would a loopback mout ever work then? |
| 16:44.02 | ericP | ahh. that explains it |
| 16:44.07 | petemc | !initrd modules |
| 16:44.08 | dpkg | i heard initrd modules is zcat /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` | cpio -t | grep ko$; |
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| 16:44.23 | ericP | rock! |
| 16:44.31 | NeoLobster | Hey #debian... I have a (hopefully) simple apt-get question for you guys. I have in-house software that is absolutely dependent on postgres 8.1 or 8.2, but 8.2 got depricated a long time ago. Is there an easy way (other than setting the entire thing to use a snapshot mirror) to hold postgres at 8.2 and still make it satisfy the postgres virtual package dependency? |
| 16:44.46 | NeoLobster | (we cannot upgrade to 8.3, it was too invasive) |
| 16:44.53 | enouf | ericP: mkinitramfs, update-initramfs are the tools for initramfs-tools for making initrds nowadays; "make-kpkg .... --initrd" does the magic |
| 16:45.22 | NeoLobster | we were holding it on a snapshot mirror, but we really need to be able to upgrade other packages on the system |
| 16:46.13 | Kobaz | NeoLobster: 8.2 and 8.3 can coexist peacefully |
| 16:46.38 | enouf | ericP: what i usually do is cp the initrd somewhere; cd there; then zcat ./initrd-... | cpio -i |
| 16:46.56 | jelly | NeoLobster: um, which postgres virtual package dependency are you talking about (I don't see postgresql-8.3 providing one)? |
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| 16:47.44 | jelly | NeoLobster: can you pastebin what happens when you do "aptitude -s upgrade"? |
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| 16:48.51 | jelly | perhaps you just need to hold "postgresql" as well |
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| 16:49.33 | enouf | ericP: i once ended up with the initrd minimalist 'mount' command in my ~/bin dir, and had set ~/.bash_{rc,profile} to use (source?) ~/bin/* ... guess what, i couldn't figure out why mount was always acting funny on me, not working corrrectly since my PATH variable had ~/bin as 1st in path, or atleast prior to /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin ... |
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| 16:49.55 | JyZyXEL | !dpkg |
| 16:49.55 | dpkg | [dpkg] the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <apt howto>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 16:50.11 | NeoLobster | jelly: maybe something has changed in the last few months, but as of 4/24/2008, postgres 8.2 was no longer available in stable or testing... Only from a snapshot mirror. The issue is that we have software that depends on postgresql dependency, and 8.2 doesn't seem to satisfy the dependency. If I remove the snapshot mirror and go back to a current stable mirror (and hold postgresql, postgresql-common, postgresql-client, etc), is |
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| 16:50.49 | NeoLobster | Would it be advisable to download the package, then edit it so that it provides the dependency for this system, manually install it, then mark it as held? |
| 16:50.52 | JyZyXEL | is there documentation about how debians package management system works? |
| 16:51.05 | enouf | ericP: IOW, i didn't realize that's what was going on for some time .. the original mount (/bin/mount) was set uid root too .. sigh .. i was always hitting the minimal mount from the initrd ... /*sigh* |
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| 16:51.23 | enouf | inadvertantly |
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| 16:51.46 | jelly | NeoLobster: you'll likely need to hold it on the system anyway; it's just a question of whether messing with its control headers is needed or not |
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| 16:52.03 | ericP | enouf, that would have taken me a carreer to find |
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| 16:52.36 | ericP | 712 diffs between the module names in my 2.6.26 and 2.6.29 initrds |
| 16:52.39 | ericP | oof |
| 16:52.43 | jelly | NeoLobster: please pastebin the output of your current "apt-cache policy postgresql postgresql-8.2 postgresql-8.3"; that -s upgrade would also be nice |
| 16:52.51 | ericP | tempted to go read a comic |
| 16:53.07 | jeeger | Greetings! I'm having a /very/ annoying problem with the networking initscript not starting the loopback interface. I am using debian 4.0 in xen. Any tips? |
| 16:53.13 | Gun_Smoke | in /etc/aliases can roots mail be delivered to a non user such as foo@gmail.com ? |
| 16:53.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | uhu, xen |
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| 16:53.46 | jeeger | yeah, domu |
| 16:53.50 | MrWax | If I have the Dual core AMD 64 2 * 2.33 ghz is it best to choose for AMD64 installer? |
| 16:53.54 | MrWax | 64bit i mean |
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| 16:53.58 | MrWax | or unstable |
| 16:54.01 | MrWax | in any kind of way |
| 16:54.21 | jelly | Gun_Smoke: which MTA are you using? if it's exim, does "man etc-aliases" help you? |
| 16:54.29 | ericP | 80 diffs in the ide areas alone |
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| 16:54.32 | ericP | sighs harder |
| 16:55.25 | Gun_Smoke | jelly, it is exim-4... I'll have a look at that man page.. I can send mail fine other wise.. |
| 16:56.06 | jeeger | CutMeOwnThroat: Or was that a little reminder that I ought to ask in the xen channel?^^ |
| 16:56.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | jeeger, the usual tips, I guess, xen or not... dmesg, /var/log/messages, hmm... ifup -a? |
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| 16:56.18 | kelt_ | hi... my X11 screen is off center |
| 16:56.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | jeeger, no, just me thinking that I got no clue about xen :) |
| 16:56.34 | kelt_ | is there a way to adjust the position X11 screen? |
| 16:56.59 | NeoLobster | jelly: working on it. There's a difference (obviously) if I go based on the snapshot vs. the regular stable mirrors |
| 16:57.17 | wide | anyone aware of any requirement to run windows to diagnose or rma a laptop hard drive? I'm planning on purchasing two fujitsus after looking at comments, ratings, returns on newegg, am going to pull the original drive so I can save windows unaltered in case of warranty issues with laptop. |
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| 16:57.50 | wide | I looked at seagate & wd digital also, I prefer the fujitsu for now, hitachi isn't an option |
| 16:58.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | MrWax, not unstable, but if you need any 32bit software, that's a good reason to install i386 |
| 16:58.09 | jelly | NeoLobster: please use a repo that provides you with the version currently in use (I'm assuming you don't want to downgrade, either) |
| 16:58.20 | MrWax | CutMeOwnThroat: ok, I need flash |
| 16:58.28 | MrWax | which is still not 64 bit compitable for debian right? |
| 16:58.38 | MrWax | compatible i mean |
| 16:58.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | MrWax, although I think that most of the common things are sorted out now |
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| 16:59.01 | MrWax | Flash also? |
| 16:59.07 | jelly | wide: for a raid solution, consider using drives from different vendors |
| 16:59.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmm |
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| 16:59.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's a factoid |
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| 16:59.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | !flash64beta |
| 16:59.26 | dpkg | To use the beta flash non-free player without running into problems in usermode download the tar.gz from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html, mkdir /home/`whoami`/.mozilla/plugins and copy the extracted .so into it. |
| 16:59.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | that doesn't look too great to me... |
| 16:59.37 | jelly | wide: (you don't want them dying at the same time if there's a factory problem) |
| 17:00.21 | wide | jelly, yes, I thought of that, but the fujitsus aren't currently reporting problems, I'll order them to ship separately, cross fingers, run raid 1 except for swap which I probably will never touch |
| 17:00.43 | wide | swap to run raid 0, backup swapfile just in case |
| 17:00.43 | jelly | wide: keyword being _currently_ |
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| 17:00.49 | NeoLobster | jelly: http://pastebin.com/d22cb3e58 |
| 17:00.52 | wide | jelly, yes |
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| 17:01.18 | NeoLobster | The issue is... while we have postgres 8.1 installed, it's not satisfying the postgresql dependency |
| 17:01.21 | jelly | wide: swap on raid0 is a good way for your machine to panic when any member of it dies |
| 17:01.48 | jelly | NeoLobster: "postgresql" is a separate package. You're aware of that, right? |
| 17:01.53 | wide | jelly, other question, for raid set up in bios, will this work with lenny? is it hardware raid? fake hardware raid, or software raid? |
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| 17:02.08 | NeoLobster | jelly: isn't postgresql a virtual package for either a 7.x or 8.x version of postgres? |
| 17:02.09 | wide | jelly, thanks for the panic tip, forget raid 0 |
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| 17:02.54 | jelly | NeoLobster: afaict, it's a real package depending on whatever the current postgresql-* debian supports at the time |
| 17:02.56 | wide | jelly, referencing an asus laptop |
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| 17:03.03 | jelly | judd: versions postgresql |
| 17:03.04 | judd | jelly: postgresql -- etch: 7.5.22 sid: 8.3.5-1 lenny: 8.3.6-1 sid: 8.3.6-1 etch-backports: 8.3.7-0lenny1~bpo40+1 sid: 8.3.7-1 squeeze: 8.3.7-1 |
| 17:03.10 | jeeger | CutMeOwnThroat: Hm, I can manually bring up the lo interface after boot. But the problem is that it doesn't start when the machine is booted. |
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| 17:03.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | MrWax, hm see here http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/flashplugin-nonfree - there seems to be an amd64 version of the adobe flash installer... so I'd guess it can be done... proceed with caution :) - on the other hand, if you don't have one of the few reasons to go 64bit, you don't loose much with i386 |
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| 17:03.56 | ssd | hi how i can port nvidia graphic driver card from ubuntu -> debian ? |
| 17:04.08 | NeoLobster | jelly: regardless, there is no postgres 8.1 or 8.2 available on a non-snapshot mirror, am I correct? |
| 17:04.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | jeeger, oh, and check the bts |
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| 17:05.08 | jelly | NeoLobster: you didn't put -8.2 in the apt-cache command line, I'm afraid |
| 17:05.13 | NeoLobster | jelly: it's 8.1 |
| 17:05.15 | NeoLobster | not 8.2 |
| 17:05.20 | NeoLobster | I mis-spoke |
| 17:05.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | ssd, ubuntu wrote an nvidia gc driver?! |
| 17:05.27 | NeoLobster | we can *use* 8.2 |
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| 17:05.39 | NeoLobster | but 8.3 was an invasive upgrade that makes old dumps incompatible without some finesse |
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| 17:05.45 | jelly | NeoLobster: alright, so you can use either 8.1 or 8.2, but 8.1 is installed and works |
| 17:06.12 | NeoLobster | jelly: but it's installed from a snapshot mirror, and other packages that are postgres-dependent check for the postgresql dependency |
| 17:06.16 | jelly | NeoLobster: eh, use equivs to make a fake "postgresql" package, and depend it on postgresql-8.1 if you like |
| 17:06.22 | NeoLobster | (e.g. php's postgres driver) |
| 17:07.01 | jeeger | CutMeOwnThroat: bts? |
| 17:07.11 | NeoLobster | jelly: couldn't I just change the provides: line on the 8.1 package to include postgresql? |
| 17:07.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | jeeger, /msg dpkg bts |
| 17:07.28 | jelly | ssd: debian has its own way of installing nvidia's non-free drivers, /msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 17:08.10 | jelly | NeoLobster: sure. But this way it's closer to what debian uses at present. |
| 17:08.18 | jelly | s/uses/does/ |
| 17:08.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | jeeger, try packagenames netbase and ifupdown |
| 17:08.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess |
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| 17:09.02 | NeoLobster | jelly: well, we have our own debian package mirror for our own internal dependencies. I could throw the package up on our mirror for ease of deploying it to all our servers if I did it the other way, right? |
| 17:09.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't see any, though |
| 17:09.16 | jelly | NeoLobster: right |
| 17:09.25 | ssd | jelly: with this way i still get error/ crash in X |
| 17:09.50 | jeeger | ah thanks |
| 17:10.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, heh |
| 17:10.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | jeeger, did you look into your interfaces file? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=505674 |
| 17:10.29 | jeeger | CutMeOwnThroat: Nope, these packages don't cut it. |
| 17:10.48 | jelly | ssd: there's no guarantee the same thing won't happen with the ubuntu driver; versions of Xorg are also important |
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| 17:10.59 | jeeger | yeah, I have these entries. |
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| 17:13.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | jeeger, well, look though them... some interesting food for thought there, definitely... i.e. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=245028 (although you might/should not have hotplug or it shouldn't really bother about lo) |
| 17:13.10 | ssd | jelly ofc |
| 17:13.29 | jetpda | wweeeeeeeeee |
| 17:14.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | optical fiber communication? |
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| 17:14.40 | jeeger | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm using etch, so there aren't that many bugs... |
| 17:16.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | what about the logfiles |
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| 17:17.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | that wasn't the point... if you can start it lateron, it's obviously a sort of race condition, i.e. it tries to start it before that's possible or somesuch |
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| 17:19.30 | jeeger | CutMeOwnThroat: Yeah, that's what I thought too. Where is the interface stuff logged? |
| 17:20.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | "<CutMeOwnThroat> jeeger, the usual tips, I guess, xen or not... dmesg, /var/log/messages" |
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| 17:22.59 | SparFux | Hello. How am I supposed to change access right in polkit-gnome-authorization? Run it as root? |
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| 17:24.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | jeeger, of course, you can always bring it up in rc.local |
| 17:24.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | with the obvious disadvantages |
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| 17:25.50 | jeeger | CutMeOwnThroat: That would be a nice hack, except I need it up before the nfs server starts, because otherwise, the portmapper barfs. |
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| 17:27.40 | jeeger | hm, now it worked. |
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| 17:28.18 | jelly | that's what a race condition is all about! |
| 17:28.28 | jeeger | Hm, sadly enough, you're right. |
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| 17:28.51 | jeeger | However, I am testing now. It seems that auto lo eth0 works, while auto eth0 lo doesn't. |
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| 17:29.08 | jelly | you really want lo to go first |
| 17:29.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly, yeah!! let's race around the block... and see what condition we end up in! |
| 17:29.25 | Yasuo | hiho |
| 17:29.43 | NahuelM | Is gnome broken on sid? (haven't found much in google, I was wondering if anybody could enlighten me) |
| 17:29.50 | jeeger | jelly: But conceptually, both should work, shouldn't they? |
| 17:29.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | NahuelM, bts? |
| 17:30.01 | Yasuo | hello, my apache2 delivers php-files instead of running them. Libapache2-mod-php5 is installed, php5.load+php5.conf exists in /mods-enabled. a2enmod tells me that php5 is already enabled. |
| 17:30.08 | Yasuo | what should i do when apach2 delivers php-files for download instead of running them. its a fresh lenny+syscp install |
| 17:30.11 | NahuelM | CutMeOwnThroat: bts? |
| 17:30.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | NahuelM, /msg dpkg bts |
| 17:30.36 | jelly | jeeger: I've never seen a config where lo wasn't first in the file |
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| 17:31.18 | jeeger | Hm. But that should be a bug, shouldn't it? |
| 17:31.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | or a feature :) |
| 17:31.35 | jelly | jeeger: I don't know. Did you check the bts? |
| 17:32.14 | jelly | I remember portmap strongly disagreed with nonexistence of lo |
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| 17:32.37 | NahuelM | CutMeOwnThroat: nothing on the bug list :S |
| 17:32.56 | jeeger | thanks^^ |
| 17:32.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | NahuelM, well, that answers your question, really :) |
| 17:32.59 | NahuelM | the funny thing is that I get a list of packages that will not be installed but I can install them manually |
| 17:33.10 | jelly | jeeger: it could be a bug, thankfully it's easily remedied and not often triggered |
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| 17:33.24 | NahuelM | CutMeOwnThroat: the odd thing is that it's a fresh install of debian, and I've also experienced the problem on my other lapto |
| 17:33.25 | jelly | not triggered often* |
| 17:33.31 | NahuelM | p |
| 17:33.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | NahuelM, you can also _write_ bug reports :) |
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| 17:34.35 | jelly | NahuelM: hey, it's sid. You already know better than to ask here before checking the bts, right? |
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| 17:34.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly, not yet... but we're gonna make sure he knows in 10 minutes |
| 17:34.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | :-P |
| 17:35.01 | NahuelM | CutMeOwnThroat: yes of course, but i'm trying to see if it's not just my problem |
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| 17:35.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | heats the iron to glowing red |
| 17:35.25 | NahuelM | anybody else experiencing broken dependencies in gnome on unstable/sid? |
| 17:35.26 | jelly | also, apt/aptitude have a zillion buggy corner cases, you might be stumbling on one |
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| 17:36.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe... "ProN00b" is a funny nick... wonder if the "ProN" part is intentional |
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| 17:37.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | NahuelM, there'll surely be *one* that you can't install for some reason |
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| 17:39.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | Yasuo, I think it has to be activated... kind of similar to cgi-bin |
| 17:39.27 | kibibyte | hi |
| 17:39.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | Yasuo, hm... for starters, is the module loaded? |
| 17:40.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | l |
| 17:40.47 | pagarill | Can you make your notebook's fan stop working by making a mistake when installing Debian??? |
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| 17:42.01 | xingu | pagarill: not permanently, but if you don't load the acpi kernel modules it's possible that the fans will stay off |
| 17:43.12 | Yasuo | CutMeOwnThroat: flashung my browsercache helped, thanks |
| 17:43.22 | pagarill | xingu: and how can I do this? |
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| 17:45.01 | xingu | pagarill: install acpid, /etc/default/acpid: MODULES="all" |
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| 17:46.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh, if you install it, shouldn't they run independently? |
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| 17:46.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | i.e. fancontrol doesn't work for me at all |
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| 17:46.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | still, the fan goes on and off |
| 17:46.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just can't control it from the system |
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| 17:48.01 | ronh | Hi, I apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree on debian sid but it firefox will only play flash if it is started as the root user, what gives? |
| 17:48.21 | xingu | CutMeOwnThroat: not necessarily; never debugged down far enough to work it out but I gather some of these designs need some sort of initialisation/ boot in the nuts to kickstart the smm code into life |
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| 17:49.36 | pagarill | xingu: ok, I'll try that, thanks! |
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| 17:49.57 | xingu | CutMeOwnThroat: my own notebook is such a beast; I believe it's something common to tl56/tl60 designs of a certain vintage, too. |
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| 17:51.38 | mitrax | hello, what's the smallest package i can install to get the mail command working? mailx seems to be based on exim and mailutils wants to install lots of library such as mysql client etc |
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| 17:52.53 | abrotman | mitrax: try it without recommends |
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| 17:54.20 | SparFux | anybody running pulseaudio? I have the daemon running without errors but I only get connection refused for any sound app trying to connect to it. |
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| 18:00.18 | mitrax | abrotman: seems it wants to install mysql-common anyway... which i allowed and then it fails with a Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-common_5.0.32-7etch5_all.deb: 404 Not Found ... great! |
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| 18:00.42 | macman_ | guys |
| 18:00.46 | macman_ | what is mount --rbind ? |
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| 18:01.29 | abrotman | mitrax: which package are you trying to install ? mailx? |
| 18:01.36 | mitrax | abrotman: no mailutils |
| 18:01.41 | abrotman | dpkg: depends mailutils etch |
| 18:01.43 | abrotman | erm |
| 18:01.43 | hoxu | macman_, man mount, search for rbind, read the preceding paragraph |
| 18:01.45 | abrotman | dpkg: depends mailutils lenny |
| 18:01.49 | dpkg | mailutils: depends on guile-1.8-libs, libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libcomerr2 (>= 1.33-3), libfribidi0 (>= 0.10.9), libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.0), libgdbm3, libgmp3c2, libgnutls26 (>= 2.4.0-0), libgpg-error0 (>= 1.4), libgsasl7 (>= 0.2.21), libidn11 (>= 0.5.18), libkrb53 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2), libltdl3 (>= 1.5.2-2), libmailutils1 (>= 1.2), libmysqlclient15off (>= 5.0.27-1), libncurses5 (>= 5.6+20071006-3), libntlm0, libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), libreadline5 (>= 5.2), libtasn1-3 ... |
| 18:02.04 | dpkg | mailutils: depends on guile-1.6-libs, libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libcomerr2 (>= 1.33-3), libfribidi0 (>= 0.10.7), libgcrypt11 (>= 1.2.2), libgdbm3, libgnutls13 (>= 1.4.0-0), libgpg-error0 (>= 1.4), libgsasl7, libguile-ltdl-1, libidn11 (>= 0.5.18), libkrb53 (>= 1.4.2), libltdl3 (>= 1.5.2-2), libmailutils1 (>= 1.1), libmysqlclient15off (>= 5.0.24-2), libncurses5 (>= 5.4-5), libpam0g (>= 0.76), libqthreads-12, libreadline5 (>= 5.2), libtasn1-3 (>= 0.3.4), zlib1g ... |
| 18:03.02 | macman_ | hoxu: so the only way to get rid of it is to move the dir ? |
| 18:03.10 | abrotman | mitrax: and you want just the basic mail command ? |
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| 18:04.16 | abrotman | dpkg: find bin/mail$ lenny |
| 18:04.44 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/mail' (1): (/usr/bin/mail) in mail/mailutils. |
| 18:05.15 | abrotman | mitrax: well .. as dumb as that seems . i think you're stuck ? |
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| 18:05.36 | mitrax | abrotman: yeah just the basic mail command :/ and yeah looks like i'm stuck :( |
| 18:05.42 | abrotman | mitrax: moment |
| 18:05.48 | Brack10 | after assigning a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces, and doing ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up, my eth0 IP is still the one assigned by DHCP. What am I missing? |
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| 18:06.14 | abrotman | mitrax: apparently an old one too http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=253115 |
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| 18:06.28 | xingu | !describe bsd-mailx |
| 18:06.38 | enouf | Brack10: try /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 18:06.39 | zozo | Brack10 are you using allow hotplug |
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| 18:06.49 | enouf | or kill dhclient |
| 18:07.01 | xingu | !info bsd-mailx |
| 18:07.02 | mitrax | abrotman: is there a switch to install the package and discard a dependency? |
| 18:07.06 | dpkg | bsd-mailx: (A simple mail user agent), section mail, is standard. Version: 8.1.2-0.20081101cvs-2 (sid), Packaged size: 155 kB, Installed size: 288 kB |
| 18:07.27 | mitrax | ah |
| 18:07.42 | xingu | abrotman: mailutils is probably violating a policy, usr/bin/mail is alternative-ified. |
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| 18:08.25 | mitrax | xingu: is it supposed to be available for etch? E: Couldn't find package bsd-mailx |
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| 18:08.34 | xingu | mitrax: try "mailx" |
| 18:09.07 | Brack10 | zozo: yes |
| 18:09.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | xingu, pwmconfig doesn't find any fan... |
| 18:09.16 | mitrax | oh well i did try mailx but it's based on exim which seems like a full featured MTA, it seemed overkill |
| 18:09.19 | enouf | apt-cache search ... ? |
| 18:09.56 | xingu | mitrax: it shouldn't be based on anything more than the bsd source. |
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| 18:10.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | xingu, 'fan' is loaded, though... so perhaps it does control it - but then it'd be weird that *I* don't get the control as well |
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| 18:10.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, apt-cache search ... has 23881 hits for me :) |
| 18:10.55 | xingu | CutMeOwnThroat: not really; again you don't get any knobs that your acpi aml doesn't expose if you're going that route |
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| 18:11.36 | xingu | mitrax: you're getting thrown by the Depends: on exim4 | mail-transport-agent |
| 18:12.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | xingu, well, it should... that's what fancontrol from lm-sensors is for, no? |
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| 18:12.47 | xingu | CutMeOwnThroat: can't really comment; if it's lm-sensors, the knob is i2c |
| 18:13.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, you're right of course, just because the lm-sensors stuff doesn't work doesn't mean that no other acpi module has some control |
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| 18:13.21 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: now cut that out! |
| 18:13.34 | xingu | CutMeOwnThroat: typically the acpi stuff does its thing behind your back in smm |
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| 18:13.51 | xingu | CutMeOwnThroat: if it exposes a knob via aml more power; but your control is really, really limited. |
| 18:14.10 | profspaz | 900+ users.... |
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| 18:14.23 | xingu | CutMeOwnThroat: some systems entirely _emulate_ the i8042 for instance in smm just to give you some scope |
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| 18:15.52 | xingu | mitrax: nullmailer provides mail-transport-agent and has few moving parts |
| 18:15.55 | macman_ | anyway to kill a procecss by its name not the number ? kilall isn't working |
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| 18:16.04 | xingu | macman_: pkill |
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| 18:16.27 | profspaz | or on some I've used killp |
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| 18:16.50 | Samb1 | hi I'm having trouble trying to set up an Epson S20 printer on Lenny |
| 18:16.55 | Samb1 | I installed the gutenprint drivers |
| 18:17.00 | Samb1 | now it won't add a printer when I choose that one... it's not detecting a printer |
| 18:17.01 | xingu | macman_: or if you prefer kill $(pidof ...) |
| 18:17.07 | Samb1 | and when I have used the s20 local driver on the HP printer port it doesn't print |
| 18:17.34 | pagarill | xingu: sorry to bother you again.. I edited the file.. what do I have to do now? |
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| 18:18.08 | Samb1 | shouldn't it detect a printer thats turned on and connected to the USB port? |
| 18:18.19 | Samb1 | I installed the lsb packages |
| 18:18.58 | xingu | pagarill: invoke-rc.d acpid restart |
| 18:19.08 | Brack10 | enouf: did that and it didn't work...still gets DHCP |
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| 18:22.08 | Samb1 | ok... solved the problem.... I had the usb cable plugged into the ethernet port lololololol |
| 18:22.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | Samb1, look at dmesg | tail before/after plugging it in - then add it at http://localhost:631/ |
| 18:22.17 | Samb1 | :) |
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| 18:22.37 | Samb1 | I'm a real genius |
| 18:22.38 | akae | hi |
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| 18:26.34 | Samb1 | ok I'm a bit closer... when I go to my printer properties it says Status: Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstoraster failed |
| 18:26.44 | Samb1 | and I can't print anything |
| 18:26.51 | smacnay | I recently moved up to sid and have a working nvidia 174.xx version driver on this machine. To use the 180.xx version driver, I assume I need to remove the current version to build the newer? |
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| 18:34.02 | Samb1 | can anyone tell me what that means? /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstoraster failed ... ? |
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| 18:36.16 | simonrvn | in true cups style, it doesn't say how it failed... |
| 18:36.39 | dkr | smacnay: the nvidia installer for the new version will do that |
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| 18:37.05 | dkr | yeah, dunno what the deal is with cups devs, very poor error messages/logging |
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| 18:37.31 | dkr | but printing is unglamorous so no one helps, heh |
| 18:37.49 | smacnay | dkr: not the deb installed? |
| 18:38.27 | dkr | !tell smacnay about nvidia |
| 18:38.29 | kharloss | hi. i want to setup Trac for a project.i have only an account on a server powered by Ispcp. any ideeas ? |
| 18:38.34 | dkr | I think that outlines the detailed steps |
| 18:38.38 | smacnay | dkr: I was going to try m-a but it reports that the version (174.xx) is current - so I wonder if I need to remove that version first. |
| 18:38.55 | simonrvn | doesn't matter, could do a bit of effort to be clearer. *shrug* |
| 18:38.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | Samb1, run /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstoraster on a ps? |
| 18:39.03 | smacnay | dkr: thanks |
| 18:39.16 | Samb1 | k |
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| 18:40.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions nvidia-kernel-source |
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| 18:40.41 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: nvidia-kernel-source -- etch/non-free: 1.0.8776-4 lenny/non-free: 173.14.09-5 squeeze/non-free: 173.14.09-5 sid/non-free: 180.44-2 |
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| 18:41.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | smacnay, ^^ |
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| 18:42.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | smacnay, gotta take the one in unstable |
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| 18:44.24 | Samb1 | ok I tried running it as ./pstoraster /usr/share/cups/data/testprint.ps |
| 18:44.33 | Samb1 | and I got a lot of output |
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| 18:44.55 | Samb1 | which seemed to pause on some DEBUG2 msg |
| 18:45.48 | Samb1 | so it just kinda freezes there... doesn't return to the prompt |
| 18:45.53 | kenjy | guys Im trying to do a tar but I got this: root@www:/mnt/shares/bk# LANG=en tar -jcf htdocs.tar.gz /vz/private/101/home/jornada/htdocs/ |
| 18:45.54 | kenjy | tar: Removing leading `/' from member names |
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| 18:46.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | Samb1, it's a filter... |
| 18:47.02 | kenjy | what means that Removing leading '/' from member names ??? I had never seen it before |
| 18:47.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstoraster < some.ps |
| 18:47.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | you give it an empty pipe... |
| 18:47.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | kenjy, tar, I guess... means just what it says |
| 18:47.45 | Samb1 | ahh ok |
| 18:48.10 | kenjy | CutMeOwnThroat: but my file names don't have any '/' |
| 18:48.37 | hoxu | kenjy, those files will extract to 'foo/.../' and not '/foo/.../', that's what it means |
| 18:48.43 | Samb1 | ahh ok I seem to get output when I run it like that |
| 18:49.00 | Samb1 | i.e ./pstoraster < /usr/share/cups/data/testprint.ps |
| 18:49.15 | kenjy | hoxu: so it is ok then? that is not modifing my files names? |
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| 18:49.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | kenjy, you packed using an absolute path |
| 18:49.32 | rektide | is there a command i can use to activate my screen saver ? |
| 18:49.45 | kenjy | CutMeOwnThroat: so it is ok, the files are going to be fine? |
| 18:49.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 18:49.54 | Samb1 | a whole bunch of DEBUG stuff and a bunch of binary stuff (I'm assumign thats the test page image stuff) |
| 18:49.54 | kenjy | ok tnks |
| 18:50.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | rektide, you don't feel that this might depend on your screensaver? |
| 18:50.38 | rektide | xscreensaver |
| 18:50.49 | rektide | if you use anything else on linux, get the hell out |
| 18:50.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | look at xscreensaver-command |
| 18:50.56 | deb-eater | ? |
| 18:51.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | rektide, xlock? |
| 18:51.03 | rektide | will do, thank you |
| 18:51.07 | deb-eater | is there a command i could use to delete all of the tempoary files off of my system? |
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| 18:51.16 | rektide | xlock unfortunately prevents me from starting new applications |
| 18:51.20 | rektide | which is not acceptable to me |
| 18:51.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't care |
| 18:51.39 | rektide | i need to be able to turn on x11vnc, or to start new applications |
| 18:51.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's more than just xscreensaver around, is my point |
| 18:51.43 | teratoma | deb-eater: what is a temporary file ? |
| 18:51.59 | rektide | yes yes. |
| 18:52.05 | jelly-home | rektide: x11vnc can be started even when xscrensaver is active and locked |
| 18:52.15 | justin | rektide: xscreensaver-command |
| 18:52.24 | rektide | jelly-home: xlock, for whatever reason, appears to prevent me from starting new apps |
| 18:52.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | justin, I said that! |
| 18:52.36 | deb-eater | the contents of /tmp |
| 18:52.51 | jelly-home | rektide: so um, use that other thing? |
| 18:52.55 | rektide | xscreensaver-command does work, as justin & CutMeOwnThroat have both suggested. :) |
| 18:52.59 | rektide | thank you #debian |
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| 18:53.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | deb-eater, "rm -rf /tmp/*" ? |
| 18:54.10 | simonrvn | probably not a good idea |
| 18:54.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | deb-eater, but better install tempreaper, which deals with files in /tmp based on size/space and age of the files |
| 18:54.17 | jelly-home | deb-eater: it's usually not a really smart thing to do if you're in X |
| 18:54.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, now be fair, he didn't ask for something that was also a good idea! |
| 18:54.39 | Samb1 | will try restarting everything |
| 18:54.42 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 18:55.17 | deb-eater | I am not planning to use X very much atleast not on this machine jelly-home |
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| 18:56.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, actually there are some people who _insist_ on not using any of the smart solutions (I'm not implying he is one of them right now) |
| 18:56.59 | kibibyte | hi |
| 18:58.25 | simonrvn | silly imo |
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| 19:00.32 | simonrvn | silly rm'ing everything without thinking |
| 19:00.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | "Verlassend" ... what utterly stupid translation of "leaving" |
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| 19:01.03 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: file a bug! |
| 19:01.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, no problem though, because no small kittens die! |
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| 19:01.38 | simonrvn | heh |
| 19:01.46 | Suppermann | it's worse with danish |
| 19:01.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWOjmvWPRvQ |
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| 19:03.03 | simonrvn | no y00t00b for me today |
| 19:03.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | Suppermann, that is hard to imagine |
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| 19:04.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, there probably *is* no good translation... you just can't do one-word-gerunds in German - that doesn't make this one less horrible :) |
| 19:04.26 | deb-eater | I woounder if very many women use Linux Let alone debian? |
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| 19:04.42 | simonrvn | "wonder" |
| 19:04.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess debbie did :) |
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| 19:05.18 | deb-eater | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.22 | Suppermann | CutMeOwnThroat: what do you mean? |
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| 19:06.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | what do I mean with what |
| 19:06.31 | simonrvn | that |
| 19:06.42 | Suppermann | 'Supperman, that is hard to imagine' |
| 19:07.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | Suppermann, that there is a worse translation |
| 19:07.09 | Suppermann | ah |
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| 19:07.34 | paxcoder | can I get a recommendation for a printer in a low price range that I could use with CUPS. (I need it for home use) Uncostly cartridges (eg substitutes) are a must. Thanks for help in advance. |
| 19:08.06 | bzlbb | B&W or color ? |
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| 19:08.20 | deb-eater | squeze rums pretty stable on all of the computers i have installed it on |
| 19:08.33 | paxcoder | bzlbb: color would be nice. |
| 19:08.41 | deb-eater | paxcoder: Photo Smart C4280 |
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| 19:09.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, I once got a fully functional laser printer from ebay for under 2 euro :) |
| 19:09.44 | GT500 | Hello. |
| 19:09.49 | paxcoder | deb-eater: thx. how much are the cartridges? |
| 19:09.57 | bzlbb | yeah i dont understand how the costs of cartridges can surpass the cost of the printer in so little time |
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| 19:10.01 | GT500 | Does anyone know of a Live CD/DVD of Linux that comes with Opera 10 on it? |
| 19:10.05 | paxcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: I'd have to include shipping to Eu. |
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| 19:10.45 | deb-eater | the cartrigge I get are around 60usd b&w and 71 dollars Color |
| 19:10.47 | paxcoder | bzlbb: that's their cunning plan. they now even patent the cartridge design so it's illegal to make substitute cartridges. |
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| 19:10.54 | Ace2017_- | what do you do about this? in unstable xserver-xorg-core: Conflicts: xserver-xorg-video-2 which is a virtual package. |
| 19:11.06 | simonrvn | bzlbb: easy. sweatshop labour, throw-away parts, and environmentally degrading materials gathering. |
| 19:11.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, yes... of course I had to pay about 12 euro for shipping :) (and that was in Germany - some office was closed and they just threw everything on ebay ...) wasn't a fast printer, mind |
| 19:11.34 | paxcoder | deb-eater: considering I'm now paying about 3$ for b/w and 4$ for color, it's a lot for me. |
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| 19:12.41 | paxcoder | deb-eater: truth be told, i have an ancient printer. |
| 19:12.42 | deb-eater | paxcoder: well than your going to have to sebtle for a less compatible manufacturer like Kodak or Brother |
| 19:12.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, oops, I take it back - it was 2 euro 83 cent :) and it was a Hewlett Packard HP Laserjet 6 P (not useful if you have a lot to print, though, because it's so slow) |
| 19:13.27 | deb-eater | -6+ |
| 19:13.34 | gravity | Ace2017_-: All the Free drivers in unstable should be updated already. If you're not using one of those then wait it out |
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| 19:14.07 | smacnay | CutMeOwnThroat: that version is currently installed - I think I need to remove the operating module 174.xx and the nvidia-glx as well as nvidia-glx-dev before making the module. |
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| 19:14.24 | paxcoder | deb-eater: how much "less compatible" is that? |
| 19:14.28 | amse | hello! |
| 19:14.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | smacnay, didn't you see what judd printed? |
| 19:14.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | s/printed/wrote/ |
| 19:14.48 | smacnay | CutMeOwnThroat: my worry is that, if it doesn't work, I am not using accelerated graphice. Yes I did. Let me read again. |
| 19:14.49 | paxcoder | amse: try writing it with exclamation point first XD |
| 19:15.01 | Ace2017_- | gravity: oh xorg 1.6 was installed |
| 19:15.05 | amse | i have a trouble with my wireless card |
| 19:15.19 | amse | i've installed the driver correctly |
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| 19:15.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | the 180.x is only in unstable stable/testing have the 173.x |
| 19:15.35 | amse | but the device seems no exist |
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| 19:15.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | smacnay, the point is not that you have to uninstall anything 1st, but that you have to take the one from unstable |
| 19:16.02 | deb-eater | paxcoder: All Ican tell you is to steer clear of the x73 line of printers from lexmark |
| 19:16.02 | smacnay | thanks - I am now in unstable after being in testing for some time. |
| 19:16.36 | paxcoder | deb-eater: funny i remember reading somewhere lex mark is supposed to be good with GNU/Linux. |
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| 19:17.07 | deb-eater | paxcoder: Yes but not the x73 MFP |
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| 19:17.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, any old HP laser printer should do - if used is ok they can be really cheap... and they normally can do postscript |
| 19:17.32 | paxcoder | deb-eater: k. thx for advices. |
| 19:17.38 | deb-eater | paxcoder: you could always go for a hp 1022 lase printer |
| 19:17.47 | amse | can someone help me? |
| 19:17.48 | amse | thanks |
| 19:19.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, of course if you *need* color, that might not be it (but I much prefer laser as I usually let the ink dry anyway) |
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| 19:19.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | amse, check dmesg and /var/log/messages |
| 19:19.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | amse, when unloading/loading the kernel modul |
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| 19:19.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | e |
| 19:20.06 | Suppermann | an off-topic question: How do I identify myself on IRC? I have forgot |
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| 19:20.17 | paxcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: aren't laser cartages usually more expensive? |
| 19:20.24 | Conic | Use /msg nickserv identify <password> |
| 19:20.33 | deb-eater | Suppermann: /msg nickserv password |
| 19:20.34 | Suppermann | thank you Conic |
| 19:20.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, well... not if I let my ink cartridge dry out after 20 printouts |
| 19:20.48 | amse | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.10 | Gun_Smoke | jelly, what I needed was a ~/.forward file... |
| 19:21.20 | paxcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: what's that? |
| 19:21.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, err - and generally, I think not - per-copy printouts are more expensive with ink, iirc |
| 19:21.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | the cartridges might be more expensive because they can do more copies, though |
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| 19:23.10 | paxcoder | Well, I'd rather take less expensive things that do color. |
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| 19:24.05 | amse | cutmeownthroat: reading dmesg there's nothing related with the device |
| 19:24.05 | paxcoder | USB printers require specific drivers? |
| 19:25.35 | jelly-home | depends |
| 19:26.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, "expensive" is relative... e.g. http://preview.tinyurl.com/dhden5 |
| 19:26.29 | jelly-home | paxcoder: most printers connect via usb today, and many have PCL or PostScript |
| 19:26.40 | amse | and nothing happens when i unlod/reload the module |
| 19:26.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | bah, that should have been http://tinyurl.com/dhden5 I guess |
| 19:27.14 | jelly-home | 2100 is nice if well preserved |
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| 19:28.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, I think any oldish HP will work well and be cheap |
| 19:28.07 | jelly-home | we have at least one at work 6 years old and still going strong |
| 19:28.10 | paxcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: what does "ships to Germany" mean? |
| 19:28.38 | jelly-home | paxcoder: "not outside of it" |
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| 19:28.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, you said EU - what should I know where you are - and I'm not there to search you your exact printer - just saying that it's not necessarily *so* expensive |
| 19:29.34 | paxcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: my second "u" in "Eu" was small ;-) |
| 19:29.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmm |
| 19:29.48 | jelly-home | eugh |
| 19:29.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | what does a small u mean then :) |
| 19:30.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | Europium? :) |
| 19:30.29 | paxcoder | XD |
| 19:30.36 | Suppermann | mmmh, opium |
| 19:30.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's an element! |
| 19:30.49 | paxcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: it means Croatia of course. Duuh. |
| 19:30.57 | jelly-home | paxcoder: hey! |
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| 19:31.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | Eu is a short for Croatia? |
| 19:31.27 | jelly-home | !hr |
| 19:31.27 | dpkg | methinks hr is Croatia |
| 19:31.28 | paxcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: No Cro is. I'm kidding. I meant "Europe". We done with this Eu thing yet? :-P |
| 19:31.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | amazing... considering the amount of e's and u's in croatia |
| 19:31.58 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: well there's no hs either :-) |
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| 19:32.11 | paxcoder | and when you say abbreviation you mean domain... ts ts ts |
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| 19:32.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyway, my whole point was that lasers need not be expensive |
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| 19:33.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | and some of those old HPs are extremely robust and so I like 'em |
| 19:33.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/print_article.php?articleId=118248 |
| 19:33.54 | Suppermann | i love python |
| 19:34.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | "Cost per copy. Despite the low initial purchase price of an inkjet printer, the cost per printed page remains high when compared to laser printing..." |
| 19:34.36 | paxcoder | *shrugs* |
| 19:34.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | it was *your* concern |
| 19:35.25 | PeterFA | The stock kernel for Squeeze doesn't come with the appropriate snd-rtctimer module. |
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| 19:35.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think you already set your mind on an ink-pisser... but then... why ask at all :) |
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| 19:35.46 | PeterFA | I need that so I can play MP3s without horrible playback. |
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| 19:36.55 | PeterFA | CutMeOwnThroat, in a lot of cases, it's better not to buy a new cartridge, but a new printer altogether, unless the cartridges that come with the printer aren't full. |
| 19:36.56 | paxcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: Istill need a recommendation of one, that's why. Hard to believe 100's of ppl here don't use a low-price printer. |
| 19:37.25 | simonrvn | i haven't printed anything in 6 years. |
| 19:37.38 | PeterFA | CutMeOwnThroat, anyways, inkjets have a usage for really high quality printing like photo quality. |
| 19:37.38 | module000 | i print everyting at work |
| 19:38.16 | PeterFA | module000, just fork the stdout to lpr :) |
| 19:38.33 | Piet | how can i configure my openvpn client so that it will only route some of my traffic through the vpn, namely if the destination is a certain network? |
| 19:38.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | PeterFA, that is of course, true - also, if you need color for some reason, there is no reasonably cheap laser alternative imo |
| 19:38.58 | paxcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: laser fanboy. |
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| 19:39.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, just because laser is superior :) |
| 19:39.20 | PeterFA | Piet, you change the routing table on the computers you want to use the vpn. |
| 19:39.20 | simonrvn | fanboi ;p |
| 19:39.24 | paxcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: for cutting wood perhaps. |
| 19:39.31 | PeterFA | Piet, there is no OpenVPN configuration for this. |
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| 19:39.45 | paxcoder | raises sheild |
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| 19:40.01 | PeterFA | Piet, route add 10.0.1.0/24 gw [openvpn-server] |
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| 19:40.29 | Piet | PeterFA: so i assume i should edit /etc/network/interfaces and define a manual tun interface there? |
| 19:40.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, now that, I'm sorry to say, was just a stupid remark intended to be annoying |
| 19:40.37 | PeterFA | Piet, no. |
| 19:41.06 | PeterFA | Piet, you change the routing tables on the computers that you want to use the vpn, or change the default router to route to that vpn network. |
| 19:41.06 | Piet | PeterFA: my problem is that right now, when i start the connection, all of my traffic is routed through the vpn, even though i did not ask for it |
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| 19:41.29 | Piet | i see. |
| 19:41.31 | PeterFA | Piet, ok, set the default route on the router to ordinary, not to the vpn network. |
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| 19:41.46 | paxcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: look, lasers just don't pay off for me. I'm not Gideon. |
| 19:41.53 | PeterFA | Piet, then add a route in the router where if it's destined for the vpn, it uses the vpn router for the gateway. |
| 19:42.20 | PeterFA | Piet, make sure all computers are using that machine as the default router, and not the vpn. |
| 19:42.28 | PeterFA | Piet, or vpn gateway, I mean. |
| 19:42.29 | Piet | i only have one client/desktop, i assume that is also the router then, right? |
| 19:42.47 | PeterFA | Piet, nope. |
| 19:42.52 | PeterFA | Piet, but that is an interesting detail. |
| 19:42.52 | valdyn | Piet: you should configure this stuff IN the vpn client |
| 19:43.42 | PeterFA | Piet, OpenVPN has an internal router for its own special purpose. |
| 19:43.52 | PeterFA | Piet, then there is the real routing table. |
| 19:44.04 | PeterFA | Piet, you wont' need to worry about OpenVPNs internal routing table for this. |
| 19:44.17 | Piet | i see |
| 19:44.40 | PeterFA | Piet, I think it would be easiest in your case to add one routing table rule for the client that sends anything headed to the vpn network to the tun/tap interface. |
| 19:45.01 | PeterFA | Piet, but that should automagically be configured for you when you set up the interface. |
| 19:45.14 | PeterFA | Piet, in fact, it shouldn't be sending all information through that guy anyways. |
| 19:45.23 | PeterFA | Piet, unless you have a bad configuration |
| 19:45.32 | Piet | ...as well as to prevent that my default route is changed |
| 19:45.52 | PeterFA | Piet, your default route shouldn't change when you start openvpn. |
| 19:45.58 | Piet | that configuration is received via dhcp apparently |
| 19:46.20 | PeterFA | Piet, hmm, that sounds complicated, as to what is happening. Try #openvpn |
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| 19:46.28 | PeterFA | Piet, be careful with those folk, they're testy. |
| 19:46.45 | Piet | :9 thanks |
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| 19:48.26 | hesco | I need a cli jigdo, any recommendations? I'm looking for something I can use like wget, w/o the gtk gui overhead |
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| 19:49.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, I don't think you need to print the most-sold-book-on-earth for a laser printer - but you're of course free to do as you like... drill a hole in your knee and see if I care :) you asked for a good&cheap printer for linux and most older/used HP lasers fit that pretty well |
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| 19:54.00 | Mr-R | hesco: jigdo-lite? |
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| 19:55.35 | hesco | Mr-R: I looked for that, but could not find it in apt-cache search. only jigdo (GTK+) and jigdo-file. |
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| 19:55.53 | Mr-R | hesco: its in jigdo-file included |
| 19:56.00 | hesco | its a remote server. I really don't need to install and export X here. |
| 19:56.10 | hesco | ok, I'll try that |
| 19:56.12 | hesco | thanks |
| 19:56.21 | Finkregh | greetings, i have a bit complicated problem :) my setup is shown here <http://finkregh.pastebin.com/mbce0aa9> - GPT-device, on that one partition /w cryptosetup, inside that a LVM, and inside that a normal ext3-partition. the whole setup works as far as i am possible to see the LVM and its one logical volume. on that i get the following: <http://finkregh.pastebin.com/m4ca43422> and <http://finkregh.pastebin.com/m389f4e63>. i allready tried se |
| 19:56.21 | Finkregh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.30 | hesco | sweet, I now have the man page |
| 19:56.36 | hesco | thanks Mr-R |
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| 20:00.26 | hesco | Mr-R: thanks. I seem to be off the races now. Thanks again. |
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| 20:02.03 | kharloss | hi there. i`m new to linux, i`m webdesigner, but i started a project with a friend, and subversion and trac was someone recomandation; i follow a tutorial but something goes wrong. " [Errno 2] No such file or directory: ' /var/svn/xxxx any help ? if someone have a good tutorial install trac with svn i really apreciate. |
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| 20:03.01 | Mr-R | hesco: you are welcome. i used jigdo-lite with screen to fetch lenny-dvds and it works like a charm. |
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| 20:04.13 | wamty | is debian affacted by the udev exploit? |
| 20:04.27 | wamty | I wonder if this affects not just Ubuntu...I imagine so? http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/34536/info |
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| 20:06.03 | wamty | ??? |
| 20:06.59 | amse | oO |
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| 20:08.22 | wamty | I have an OLD debian UML 2.4.x kernel and it seems to run udev |
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| 20:09.21 | unop | wamty, it seems to affect version 0.124 (might affect older versions too) .. |
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| 20:09.58 | wamty | is that system of mine affected then? |
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| 20:13.15 | elik | !embedded |
| 20:13.19 | ejos | Greetings! |
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| 20:13.39 | elik | meh, what is the channel for embedded devices |
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| 20:17.11 | Dassu | OK, so I come to my home after visiting my parents ... It appears that my server no longer answers to pings (not even local ones) and it doesn't receive dhcp offers. JUst gr8 worked perfectly before leaving |
| 20:17.35 | Dassu | jUst leaves me wondering "wtf has happened" |
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| 20:17.55 | bpun | Dassu, timeout with isp |
| 20:18.21 | halflife08 | Dassu: the nic died ? cable got messed up ? |
| 20:18.27 | Dassu | Maybe but nothing said on their site. (There is a dialog which usuallyh indicates if there are problems) |
| 20:18.38 | ejos | I try to make a deb packages for dansguardian 2.10 version and i get this error: " applying patch 08_fix_manpagesection to ./ ... failed ", so what that it mean? |
| 20:19.12 | Dassu | halflife08: all my 3 network interfaces seem to reg. just fine |
| 20:19.32 | halflife08 | Dassu: are the routes in place ? |
| 20:19.46 | maligor | Dassu, it got infected by the packet eating monster |
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| 20:19.53 | Dassu | :P |
| 20:20.09 | halflife08 | Dassu: sorry take that back, did you assign a static ip and try to reach it ? |
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| 20:20.46 | Dassu | halflife08: yep... I have br0 which has static ip |
| 20:21.06 | maligor | a bridge then? |
| 20:21.09 | Dassu | for a local network |
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| 20:23.39 | halflife08 | Dassu: i am assuming br0 and ur other network interfaces are on the same box, were you able to ping from another system ? |
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| 20:24.28 | magyar_ | hi, what the difference between the two versions of lenny 2.6.26 kernel? 2.6.26-1 and 2.6.26-2 |
| 20:24.42 | joosu | is there a script to downgrade Xorg painlessly? |
| 20:25.20 | halflife08 | magyar: look at the changelog on packages.debian.org or you can use aptitude changelog option |
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| 20:28.02 | valdyn | magyar_: read the changelog |
| 20:29.08 | halflife08 | joosu: from what version to what version ? what version of debian are you running ? i don't think downgrade is supported though |
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| 20:31.23 | ejos | I try to make a deb packages for dansguardian 2.10 version and i get this error: " applying patch 08_fix_manpagesection to ./ ... failed and make: *** [patch-stamp] Error 1", so what that it mean? |
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| 20:31.45 | gewt | <Dave158> Debian isn't really good |
| 20:31.55 | magyar_ | valdyn, still dont see why they called it "2.6.26-2" |
| 20:31.59 | gewt | that dudes an idiot for other reaons |
| 20:32.57 | Suzula | Hello, I'm compiling my kernel, and I got this error: http://pastebin.com/m4f275cd4 |
| 20:33.05 | Suzula | How I can to solve? |
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| 20:35.26 | satHan1 | hey guys - I'm having trouble connecting to a PIX VPN. when I try to connect I get the message "vpnc: peer selected (single) DES as "encryption" method." even though I've verified that aes-256 and 3des are both turned on in the PIX server configuration files. any ideas? is there a library I'm missing or something else obvious? |
| 20:35.51 | paxcoder | is it me or cups supports not one HP Deskjet? |
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| 20:36.41 | maligor | hp's devices are mostly supported through hp's own stuff that interfaces with cups |
| 20:36.45 | ejos | Suzula, i'm not a expert but it seem that you have to change the permission for ` pwd ` directory, because when you going to make the packages it's impossible to write it |
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| 20:37.33 | maligor | paxcoder, http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/deskjet.html |
| 20:38.10 | halflife08 | Suzula: are you building the package with fakeroot or as root or as ? |
| 20:38.16 | Suzula | root |
| 20:38.46 | paxcoder | maligor: cups? |
| 20:39.09 | maligor | paxcoder, well, I think you'd use hpijs-ppd to make cups use it |
| 20:39.37 | paxcoder | maligor: oh. thx. |
| 20:40.03 | maligor | you'll have to check the hplip docs for more info tho, never used it |
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| 20:40.41 | ejos | Suzula it's very weird but try: chmod 775 * |
| 20:41.16 | Suzula | in which folder? current? |
| 20:42.19 | ejos | in a step back |
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| 20:45.18 | KDesk | hi |
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| 20:45.53 | KDesk | Any one knows if there are already deb packages for Amarok 2.1 beta (2.0.90)? |
| 20:46.12 | halflife08 | KDesk: aptitude search or packages.debian.org |
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| 20:46.22 | Dassu | AARGH |
| 20:46.25 | Dassu | finally got it. |
| 20:46.26 | KDesk | halflife08: is not there :( |
| 20:46.51 | Dassu | Just as I figured my eth's changed names for some mysterious reaso. |
| 20:46.52 | halflife08 | KDesk: if it is not there in the unstable/sid repos then it is not there, |
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| 20:47.15 | abrotman | KDesk: i don't think so .. |
| 20:47.31 | KDesk | halflife08: I need ony the package, it has not to be in the repo... |
| 20:47.32 | Suzula | Y typed chmod 755 * in /usr/src/ |
| 20:47.38 | Suzula | and in folder of kernel |
| 20:47.42 | Suzula | and same error |
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| 20:49.10 | drwn | are there a way for migrating maildir from davecot to courier ? |
| 20:49.30 | halflife08 | KDesk: well build a deb package from the source or just compile from source and install |
| 20:50.02 | KDesk | halflife08: I can't, that is way I search for the deb package, but thanks any way. |
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| 20:53.08 | halflife08 | oops sorry |
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| 21:07.58 | SparFux | I have a question about where to file bugs. There is the bluez package and it doesn't really work, it's outdated, and there are new bluez packages from ubuntu which I installed, but they don't work, too. There is a kernel patch which makes all the bluetooth stuff work and I would like to file a wishlist entry to include this patch. Do I have to file the bug against the kernel 2.6.29? or the bluez package? |
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| 21:09.05 | tec | hello |
| 21:09.37 | tec | I have a question about sata raid controller card support in debian |
| 21:10.43 | maligor | tec, debian will pretty much support anything linux does, but ask your question, not statement on intention |
| 21:10.52 | tec | I own a supermicro 1U server with sil3112 sata on board, which I can`t get to work with Debian. I tried to install, but no Driver can be found. |
| 21:11.26 | tec | maligor: is there a chance getting it to work? |
| 21:12.21 | tec | maligor: Now Im thinking about buying a 8506-4LP from 3ware (3ware Escalade) and am not 100% sure if it will native work with lenny |
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| 21:12.37 | maligor | are you sure the sil is a raid chip? |
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| 21:13.31 | tec | maligor: its a soft-raid chip (two of these) one for two disks. |
| 21:13.38 | maligor | oh, a fakeraid |
| 21:14.12 | tec | maligor: yes, because of that too I consider buying a 3ware Escalade 8506-4LP |
| 21:14.33 | tec | maligor: but now Im not sure if it will work out of the box with debian |
| 21:14.56 | maligor | a really old card? |
| 21:15.31 | drwn | what is better dovecot or courier ? |
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| 21:15.46 | tec | maligor: hm, not sure. but the only one which seems to work (as I said not sure) and which is affordable |
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| 21:16.15 | maligor | adapter lowerend sas's aren't that expensive |
| 21:16.25 | maligor | but it's quite relative |
| 21:16.29 | tec | maligor: 150 is this time my limit, because im a student ;) |
| 21:16.52 | tec | maligor: sas would be too expensive for me i think |
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| 21:17.17 | maligor | sas spec defines sata compability |
| 21:17.22 | maligor | all the better cards are sas |
| 21:17.31 | maligor | new ones that is |
| 21:17.33 | tec | maligor: i`ve used samsung spinpoint sata 500gig hdds for now many years an had never a problem |
| 21:17.52 | maligor | ie, you can plug sata devices in sas ports |
| 21:18.21 | tec | maligor: the server, that i bought was cheap on ebay and brand new (original packed) |
| 21:18.34 | tec | maligor: and now this f*** problem with these sata controllers |
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| 21:18.47 | maligor | tec, anyway, if you've found information that the 3ware card works in linux, it'll most likely work in debian |
| 21:18.52 | maligor | especially for a relatively old card |
| 21:18.58 | bolt | how can I see which video driver xorg automatically picked when none is specified in xorg.conf? |
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| 21:19.06 | tec | maligor: here is the link to that card: http://cgi.ebay.de/3ware-Escalade-8506-4LP-PCI-SATA-RAID-5-0-1-9500S_W0QQitemZ270372023913QQcmdZViewItemQQptZController?hash=item270372023913&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318#ebayphotohosting |
| 21:19.10 | mphill | drwn: dovecot |
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| 21:19.47 | pieter_ | Hi, I have a file that I can list with ls, but when trying to rm the file I get the following error: No such file or directory. How can I remove the file after all? |
| 21:20.16 | bolt | pieter_: what's the file name? |
| 21:20.24 | filePeter | pieter_: Any Spaces in filename? |
| 21:20.26 | pieter_ | rcS |
| 21:20.30 | pieter_ | no |
| 21:20.31 | tec | maligor: i only want to be sure about it, because i dont want to throw out money for a card that doesn`t work... |
| 21:20.49 | abrotman | pieter_: ls -l rcS |
| 21:21.00 | maligor | tec, http://lnxg.ca/?Hardware:Debian_Linux_with_a_3ware_Escalade_8506 refers to the card in relation to woody |
| 21:21.13 | maligor | and kernel 2.4 |
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| 21:21.45 | pieter_ | here comes something I've never seen: 'ls -l rcS' --> '-????????? ? ? ? ? ? rcS' |
| 21:22.07 | mphill | pieter_: nice |
| 21:22.08 | tec | maligor: ah, i found this site 2 hours ago or so, and because of 2.4 i was concerned if it is also in 2.6 supported... |
| 21:22.08 | pieter_ | the file has a name, but it doesn't have a user, filesize, group, date .... |
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| 21:22.13 | abrotman | pieter_: filesystem problems .. fsck the filesystem |
| 21:22.25 | \amethyst | pieter_: that probably means that stat failed... maybe you have only read but not execute access to the containing directory? |
| 21:22.26 | pieter_ | the filesystem should be ok |
| 21:22.32 | abrotman | pieter_: filesystem problems .. fsck the filesystem |
| 21:22.48 | tec | maligor: or is there the philosophy to kepp everything in kernel to support also the old stuff? |
| 21:22.57 | abrotman | pieter_: you ran that as root? |
| 21:23.50 | tec | maligor: also this confused me a bit: This included a new kernel and new 3ware modules. It's still 2.4-based, but the new kernel caused odd RAID problems that looked positively frightening. |
| 21:23.53 | pieter_ | the (ubuntu) ext3 filesystem is clean and is currently mounted with a gentoo live cd as root |
| 21:24.05 | abrotman | pieter_: go to #ubuntu for support |
| 21:24.51 | tec | maligor: but he also said: I haven't seen this problem with the 2.6 kernel. |
| 21:24.58 | kunal | hello. i am trying to connect to a wireless lan on my other system. i just did iwconfig wlan0 essid "myessid" |
| 21:25.18 | pieter_ | this is not a ubuntu specific problem, I assume you can have it with any filesystem |
| 21:25.21 | tec | maligor: now im bit confused about if i should buy or not |
| 21:25.29 | abrotman | pieter_: then go to ##linux .. it's certainly not a Debian problem |
| 21:25.39 | kunal | and i ran iwconfig to find that i have ESSID set but access point not associated. |
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| 21:25.59 | kunal | any idea how to get associated? my wlan has a WEP password protection |
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| 21:26.45 | maligor | tec, mm.. can't see any references in the kernel to 3ware |
| 21:26.59 | pieter_ | ##linux is busy talkin about java & python |
| 21:27.14 | kunal | yes. no one helped me there |
| 21:27.27 | tec | maligor: or is this maybe way more better? : http://cgi.ebay.de/3ware-9500s-4LP-4-Port-PCI-PCI-X-SATA-RAID-5-Card-2Tb_W0QQitemZ270373902230QQcmdZViewItemQQptZController?hash=item270373902230&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318#ebayphotohosting |
| 21:27.32 | abrotman | pieter_: This channel is to support Debian users. Please go to #ubuntu or ##linux for support. |
| 21:27.36 | kunal | they were all too busy talking about how they would run SUN and how they would fund projects |
| 21:27.42 | tec | maligor: seems to have double performance |
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| 21:28.59 | maligor | tec, oh.. the 3ware drivers are lowlevel scsi drivers in the kernel |
| 21:29.32 | tec | maligor: this is good i guess? |
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| 21:30.16 | maligor | I'm not familiar enough with the ata or scsi subsystems to comment |
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| 21:31.21 | tec | maligor: but you also suggest that the 3ware 9500S-4LP should work native without driver hassle? |
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| 21:32.12 | maligor | all I can say that the kernel refers to 3ware 9xxx/8xxx/7xxx/5xxx or so |
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| 21:33.43 | tec | maligor: ok, i think i will give it a try ;) thank you verry much! :)) |
| 21:33.57 | muh2000 | i am trying to pxe boot the lenny install, but it always says "invalid or corrupt kernel image" the old etch netboot is working though :/ |
| 21:34.12 | SparFux | HI all. What is the difference between "apt-get install linux-source-..." and "apt-get source linux-... |
| 21:34.17 | SparFux | ? |
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| 21:35.39 | maligor | tec, http://www.3ware.com/kb/article.aspx?id=14546 |
| 21:35.57 | Sashi | quick question |
| 21:36.04 | Sashi | does lighttpd and apache handle php differently? |
| 21:36.28 | Sashi | cuz ive noticed that lighttpd spawns fastcgi all the time |
| 21:37.06 | tec | maligor: you are a god :D this is definitely the bit i searched for!!! |
| 21:37.23 | tec | maligor: thank you in advance! |
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| 21:42.43 | cowboycoder | Looking for recommendations... I want to share usernames/passwords accross multiple debian servers.. Is NIS a bad option? Would using LDAP be better? |
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| 21:46.08 | Suzula | Hello, How I change this: Access: (2755/drwxr-sr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) |
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| 21:46.17 | Suzula | for this: Access: (0755/drwxr-sr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) |
| 21:46.18 | Suzula | ? |
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| 21:47.48 | \amethyst | Suzula: chmod g-s file or chmod 0755 file |
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| 21:48.12 | Suzula | I did this |
| 21:48.14 | Suzula | but dont solve |
| 21:48.38 | lucascoala | did you try chmod 0755 filename ? |
| 21:48.46 | Suzula | yes |
| 21:49.02 | Suzula | chmod 0755 src/ |
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| 21:49.58 | rhavenn | Suzula: that's the group sticky bit |
| 21:50.31 | rhavenn | Suzula: chmod 2755 filename |
| 21:50.35 | Suzula | worked only with "chmod g-s file" |
| 21:50.38 | lucascoala | yeah that is right, chmod 0755 filename shoudl works |
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| 21:51.07 | Suzula | thanks \amethyst lucascoala rhavenn |
| 21:51.39 | lucascoala | anytime |
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| 21:52.14 | mib_kz912g | hey |
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| 21:52.20 | mib_kz912g | anyone help me w/ this one: http://tinyurl.com/day4ru |
| 21:53.33 | lucascoala | hahahah |
| 21:53.48 | lucascoala | WTF |
| 21:54.43 | Suzula | ohh shit |
| 21:55.28 | mib_kz912g | HAHA PWNED IDIOTS HAHA |
| 21:55.30 | mib_kz912g | FUCK |
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| 21:55.33 | mib_kz912g | FUCK MY DICK |
| 21:55.34 | mib_kz912g | FUCK MY DICK |
| 21:55.35 | mib_kz912g | FUCK MY DICK |
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| 21:55.51 | Dassu | :( |
| 21:55.56 | HardDisk_WP | Suzula, oh, you clicked on the link? Try to close the tab |
| 21:55.57 | lucascoala | crap |
| 21:56.03 | HardDisk_WP | it will ask you 800 times HAHA |
| 21:56.07 | HardDisk_WP | then it will close |
| 21:56.19 | Suzula | thanks |
| 21:56.28 | lucascoala | i am trying to kill safari |
| 21:56.29 | HardDisk_WP | This very same fucking site behind this tinyurl fucked me already this day^^ |
| 21:56.33 | HardDisk_WP | lucascoala, no need... |
| 21:56.36 | lucascoala | WTF 800x |
| 21:56.47 | HardDisk_WP | lucascoala, simply stay on the ENTER key |
| 21:56.52 | HardDisk_WP | when you get the message box |
| 21:56.52 | lucascoala | dude, hit 800 that fuck pop up. |
| 21:57.08 | HardDisk_WP | nah, you musta achieve to close the tab |
| 21:57.18 | HardDisk_WP | then you will get an Alert with HAHA |
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| 21:57.35 | HardDisk_WP | then you press ENTER and don't release till the tab is closed |
| 21:57.46 | nayx | kill -9 pgrep firefox-bin |xargs kill -9 |
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| 21:57.52 | nayx | oops |
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| 21:59.18 | mib_ms7t04 | FREE PORN HERE http://tinyurl.com/cutepu55y |
| 21:59.19 | mib_ms7t04 | http://tinyurl.com/cutepu55y |
| 21:59.21 | mib_ms7t04 | FREE PORN HERE http://tinyurl.com/cutepu55y |
| 21:59.22 | mib_ms7t04 | FREE PORN HERE http://tinyurl.com/cutepu55y |
| 21:59.25 | mib_ms7t04 | FREE PORN HERE http://tinyurl.com/cutepu55y |
| 21:59.26 | mib_ms7t04 | FREE PORN HERE http://tinyurl.com/cutepu55y |
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| 22:02.23 | Suzula | I got the same error |
| 22:02.25 | Suzula | :( |
| 22:02.26 | Suzula | http://pastebin.com/m41c30d2 |
| 22:02.40 | Suzula | I did chmod g-s /usr/src |
| 22:02.56 | jpinx | can't believe that people actually click on these links |
| 22:03.23 | Suzula | and chmod 0775 /usr/src |
| 22:03.27 | Suzula | and nothind |
| 22:03.30 | Suzula | same error |
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| 22:07.48 | neosmatrix | hi, someone knows a way to delete old, unused libraries and/or programm files? |
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| 22:09.41 | Gryfelhase | neomatrix: deborphan/orphaner |
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| 22:12.40 | rgr | Do you think it would be ok to install 64 bit debian over a 32 bit one? or best to do from scratch? Could I just change the repositories and drag in the 64 bit programs and keep my existing config files in home and /etc? |
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| 22:14.24 | dusted | rgr, reformat, and next time: Put /home on it's own partition |
| 22:14.43 | dusted | then it won't be a factor |
| 22:14.52 | rgr | sorry? home is on its own partition. |
| 22:15.03 | rgr | but i was thinking more of etc |
| 22:15.23 | rgr | so I cant just install over and so keep configs? |
| 22:15.33 | dusted | you could backup the configs |
| 22:15.49 | rgr | yes, I know I could back them u, but thats not what I was asking :-; |
| 22:16.02 | rgr | so bottom line is no you cant install "over"? |
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| 22:16.19 | dusted | I'm not sure what'd happen if you just change repositories, |
| 22:16.27 | rgr | ok, so you dont know. ok. Thanks. |
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| 22:16.52 | dusted | but I'd imagine you could get hurt if you end up with a 32 bit kernel and 64 bit libs/bins :D |
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| 22:22.04 | _Megaf | lol, i have the solution to rgr problem... |
| 22:22.25 | _Megaf | but he's gone |
| 22:22.52 | _Megaf | well, i think i have |
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| 22:32.57 | sclebo05 | what will debian 6 be codenamed ? after lenny ? |
| 22:33.34 | amphi | squeeze |
| 22:33.41 | sclebo05 | thx |
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| 22:36.31 | Nexus | So, I just updated from etch... Go to use updatedb, and it's gone..? What did I miss while I was away for the last 400 days? :) |
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| 22:36.40 | elvirolo | hi everyone |
| 22:37.22 | elvirolo | i've just installed sid on my laptop - i'm trying to install kde4, but it seems there's a whole lot of dependency problems... why is that ? |
| 22:37.37 | dkr | Nexus: aptitude install mlocate :) |
| 22:38.17 | Nexus | dkr: How does that differ from the locate package? and why would upgrading have removed it if it was there previously? |
| 22:38.46 | dkr | Nexus: i don't know but that's what I did. aptitude show mlocate describes the differences between ol dlocate slocate and itself |
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| 22:40.08 | Nexus | dkr: Thanks for the suggestion! |
| 22:40.28 | Nexus | If only I could get someone in #vsftpd to respond that fast. |
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| 22:44.12 | bpun | Nexus, /etc/alternatives has locate.. maybe ur symlink is pointing to anothe locate binary |
| 22:45.57 | bpun | elvirolo, because sid is not a stable distro |
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| 22:48.23 | Juest1 | hello |
| 22:49.06 | fat_dallas | has anyone had much luck with the Logitech MX Revolution and Debian 5.0 64bit? |
| 22:49.11 | Juest1 | where to download a debian kernel + XWindow +X apps? |
| 22:49.15 | Juest1 | iso format |
| 22:49.31 | azeem | Juest1: cdimage.debian.org |
| 22:49.59 | Juest1 | is the official debian page? |
| 22:50.13 | azeem | everything with .debian.org in it is official |
| 22:50.19 | Juest1 | aah |
| 22:50.21 | Juest1 | cya |
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| 22:54.22 | schmichael | anybody know why qt font rendering sucks when using gnome in sid? |
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| 22:54.33 | schmichael | i'm not even sure what package to file a bug under |
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| 22:59.46 | theswellseason | When debian imports photos where does it put them by default, and how do I change that? |
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| 23:01.04 | Ace2017_- | well i couldn't even get vesa to start xorg 1.6, maybe this is why its called unstable |
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| 23:02.12 | Baneo | hey guys, im struggling to find a real answer to this, i want to merge two drives via ssh and no gui. what would be the easiest way to go? |
| 23:02.28 | Ace2017_- | merge? |
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| 23:03.05 | Baneo | yes, join two drives |
| 23:03.10 | Baneo | to become one paritions |
| 23:03.14 | azeem | theswellseason: that depends on the application you are using |
| 23:03.16 | Baneo | sorry my english is bad :D |
| 23:03.20 | azeem | Baneo: what does that have to do with ssh? |
| 23:03.31 | Baneo | nothing - it's how im connecting |
| 23:03.32 | theswellseason | azeem, I wasn't using any application |
| 23:03.35 | Baneo | i mean, no gui |
| 23:03.38 | azeem | Baneo: so you mean text-mode? |
| 23:03.40 | azeem | ok |
| 23:03.47 | theswellseason | it was just the default import utilityy |
| 23:03.49 | azeem | theswellseason: then nothing is being imported |
| 23:03.52 | Baneo | azeem: yes sorry, english is bad :) |
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| 23:04.02 | azeem | theswellseason: then *that* is the application |
| 23:04.07 | theswellseason | but I just installed gthumb, so I've solved the issue |
| 23:04.09 | Ace2017_- | Baneo: like raid? |
| 23:04.25 | Baneo | Ace2017_-: yes :D |
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| 23:05.32 | et | FoXyLiOn: absolute pfade in unix fangen mit einem / an |
| 23:05.36 | et | err |
| 23:05.39 | et | wrong channel |
| 23:05.41 | et | sorry ... |
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| 23:08.30 | aindilis | can anyone recommend a well supported cheap all-in-one printer/pagefeed scanner with cheap cartridges which hopefully has fully free software drivers? |
| 23:08.40 | aindilis | ~$100 |
| 23:08.41 | apt | ACTION gives aindilis full service! |
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| 23:11.03 | Ace2017_- | aindilis: i think for the moment hp has the best linux support |
| 23:11.27 | aindilis | Ace2017_-: k thanks! |
| 23:11.34 | Ace2017_- | my samsung all in one can print but not scan, and the printer driver is proprietary |
| 23:11.44 | jetscreamer | def. not lexmark |
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| 23:13.51 | jetscreamer | wonders how kodak is |
| 23:13.57 | Ace2017_- | aindilis: don't forget to check out the open printing database: http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi |
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| 23:28.39 | Zharf | infinity0, strings to see the symbols and deduce from those? |
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| 23:29.18 | infinity0 | bah |
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| 23:43.19 | grirgz | hi |
| 23:44.15 | grirgz | after upgrading my system, my soundcard is no longer configured, alsaconf don't exist anymore, what should i do ? |
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