| 00:00.12 | themill | enouf: there was some move to include backports.org in the sources.list in future debian releases (as volatile will be included by default for lenny). *If* that happens, then such things will become easier. |
| 00:00.18 | abrotman | randall: you sure the driver supports whatever encryption you're using ? |
| 00:00.27 | enouf | but .. i'd much rather not sacrifice the DFSG for any POS like that anyway |
| 00:00.28 | randall | yes |
| 00:00.38 | enouf | themill: ok .. |
| 00:00.39 | randall | abrotman! yes |
| 00:00.40 | Toad | themill: sure, it just bugs me when people claim linux is "just as easy" or whatever :) |
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| 00:01.05 | abrotman | Toad: Debian is a bit of a special case because of the DFSG |
| 00:01.11 | streuner | Toad: for most things yes |
| 00:01.13 | enouf | Toad: you hear what you want to hear ;-) |
| 00:01.17 | Toad | :P |
| 00:01.31 | Toad | also bugs me because whenever anyone suggests that it may not be easy to use you get a lot of people upset ;-) |
| 00:01.44 | themill | Toad: it is for many things; it's harder for some things too. Swings and round-abouts. (have you ever tried installing windoze+office+other-crap?) |
| 00:01.48 | enouf | Toad: don't let idle chatter bug you so much |
| 00:01.58 | Toad | themill: heh, nope, I don't use Windoze either |
| 00:02.00 | Toad | I use Linux |
| 00:02.23 | Toad | this is just my first attempt at 64-bit except for servers |
| 00:02.32 | abrotman | using flash ? |
| 00:02.37 | Toad | abrotman: *nod* |
| 00:02.47 | abrotman | uh .. why? |
| 00:02.54 | themill | Toad: If you want to find out just how hard things can be, then try that for shits and giggles. But make sure you have a day or two spare and plenty of bandwidth in your monthly allowance left... |
| 00:02.54 | abrotman | why does the server have X at all |
| 00:02.55 | Toad | abrotman: because I want to watch videos on youtube? :P |
| 00:02.59 | abrotman | wtf |
| 00:03.02 | abrotman | use a desktop |
| 00:03.05 | Toad | abrotman: ... this is a desktop |
| 00:03.08 | themill | abrotman: first install *except* for server |
| 00:03.09 | Toad | this is my first *except* for servers |
| 00:03.16 | abrotman | oh .. misread |
| 00:03.17 | abrotman | sorry |
| 00:03.18 | Toad | I've got 18 amd64 servers in a colo |
| 00:03.22 | abrotman | goes back to the hole |
| 00:03.25 | Toad | they don't have X :) |
| 00:03.35 | enouf | Toad: wait .. how did you ever get your bork3d? system installed? i recall your Marvell controller issue |
| 00:04.08 | Toad | enouf: I ended up taking kmuto's boot image, modifying the initrd to include nls_utf8.ko, putting that on a USB stick, and installing |
| 00:04.21 | Toad | needed a BIOS reset too after we'd fiddled with all the settings |
| 00:04.21 | enouf | Toad: because of vfat? |
| 00:04.26 | Toad | yea |
| 00:04.34 | enouf | Toad: was the memtest86+ successful? |
| 00:04.36 | Toad | I dunno why other people didn't seem to run into the vfat utf8 issue |
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| 00:04.40 | enouf | i recall leaving off there |
| 00:04.42 | Toad | enouf: I only ran for half an hour |
| 00:04.53 | Toad | but I determined it was probably bios settings |
| 00:04.58 | enouf | Toad: so RAM wasn't an issue at all then? |
| 00:05.09 | Toad | given I tried 3 times and it crashed immediately, then flashed bios, then installed fine and have been running stably since |
| 00:05.12 | Toad | don't think so |
| 00:05.21 | enouf | wel, hehe, wrong BIOS settings can REALLY screw you up ;-) |
| 00:05.39 | enouf | and bad/corrupt BIOS even moreso :-P |
| 00:06.20 | enouf | so Asus sucks ass, or you got a bad board, or you screwed it up somewhere along the line :-P |
| 00:06.35 | Toad | oh, I just reset the settings |
| 00:06.40 | Toad | not the bios itself |
| 00:06.48 | enouf | flashed BIOS != reset BIOS |
| 00:07.41 | enouf | what you did was clear the CMOS then |
| 00:07.44 | enouf | all you did |
| 00:07.57 | enouf | or .. return them to factory defaults |
| 00:07.59 | Toad | right |
| 00:08.30 | enouf | ok, this bicardi is starting to work - gotta run .. ciao ;-) |
| 00:08.51 | G-- | have to vomit? |
| 00:09.29 | Toad | hrm, so I installed the flashplugin-nonfree from sid, but still no sound |
| 00:10.12 | abrotman | do you use alsa or oss ? |
| 00:10.24 | Toad | abrotman: I don't really care which I end up using... right now just alsa |
| 00:10.32 | Toad | mpg123 from the command line runs fine |
| 00:10.53 | abrotman | Toad: did you restart the browser ? is something locking the sound device ? |
| 00:11.04 | Toad | abrotman: yea restarted the browser |
| 00:11.26 | Toad | regarding blocking, don't think so, since mpg123 plays |
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| 00:12.24 | Toad | I tried installing alsa-oss too but no go |
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| 00:13.31 | draeath | Whats the best way to get debian-testing installed? I tried the lenny-beta2 businesscard ISO, but that failed to install with invalid sigatures by the etch mirror signing thingy... |
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| 00:13.48 | draeath | Or, rather, what's the "official" way to get it on, if there is one? |
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| 00:14.21 | abrotman | draeath: i've used the netinst without issue .. but that was awhile ago |
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| 00:14.51 | draeath | hmm, i did try the eve-smaller-one, that pulls the installer components down... i can try the netinst instead. |
| 00:15.16 | randall | i have a question i have debian lenny installed and it got b43-fwcutter installed and it installed my wireless driver. im using wifi-radar to pick up networks and it connect to my encrypted network and it gets a ip but internet wont work but it works if i unencrypt it how can i fix that |
| 00:15.33 | draeath | That said, is there a way to get the installer to ignore bad signatures? I'm fairly confident nobody is man-in-middle'ng me with the debian archive |
| 00:16.12 | abrotman | draeath: there is an option to aptitude to have it ignore that |
| 00:16.48 | draeath | in aptitude yes, but what about the installer? in particular when it's pulling the udeb stuff for the actual installation? |
| 00:17.23 | abrotman | i'd have to see the errors i think .. |
| 00:17.58 | draeath | invalid signature from (something about etch mirror signing) |
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| 00:18.10 | draeath | when starting to download packages for initial install |
| 00:18.53 | draeath | (i'm kind of wondering why it was using the etch key for lenny/testing?) |
| 00:19.26 | abrotman | draeath: is there a notice on the d-i page about beta2 being broken ? |
| 00:19.42 | draeath | not that I saw |
| 00:20.01 | draeath | theres a notice about changing PRE-beta2 breaking |
| 00:20.28 | abrotman | aho k .. that's what i remember |
| 00:20.40 | draeath | Of note, i've tried this with lenny beta1 and dailies from back then too... this hasn't been a single occurance for me. |
| 00:20.48 | draeath | I'm using amd64 if that is of importance. |
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| 00:21.36 | draeath | Nothing in eratta |
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| 00:24.04 | draeath | Ill try again with netinst later. If i run into the issue again ill write it all down and file a report. |
| 00:24.19 | abrotman | draeath: there's also #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net |
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| 00:25.22 | draeath | I think either something funny with the mirrors, or the lenny discs are trying to use the etch gpg key... ill find out later! |
| 00:25.36 | draeath | if it where the mirrors, im sure i wouldn't be the only one having trouble |
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| 00:26.34 | Toad | interseting, vlc doesn't play mpgs with sound either |
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| 00:28.35 | reZo | i'm trying to apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-1-686 however it says it's already the newest version, what's wrong? |
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| 00:29.05 | abrotman | Toad: do you ahve the OSS compat stuff loaded ? |
| 00:29.07 | reZo | and uname -r says i only have 2.6.18-6-686 installed :/ |
| 00:29.22 | Toad | abrotman: I think so... |
| 00:29.27 | abrotman | reZo: apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.24-1-686 |
| 00:29.41 | Toad | oss-compat is installed |
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| 00:30.05 | reZo | *confused* |
| 00:30.36 | jstad | i am trying to configure Debian Etch with Postfix & Dovecot. I am running into the following problem: I apparently do not have a auth file in my postix directory: "Connect to private/auth failed: No such file or directory" is the error |
| 00:30.38 | abrotman | Toad: does /dev/dsp exist ? |
| 00:30.46 | Toad | abrotman: yep |
| 00:30.58 | Toad | abrotman: interesting... alsaplayer won't play a .mp3 |
| 00:31.01 | abrotman | Toad: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ? |
| 00:31.05 | Toad | (though mayeb it doesn't play mp3s) |
| 00:31.14 | Toad | abrotman: yep, pink noise came out |
| 00:31.34 | abrotman | pink ? |
| 00:31.39 | abrotman | not rosy? |
| 00:31.41 | Toad | white maybe :P |
| 00:31.50 | Toad | I took my headphones off first |
| 00:32.53 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:33.02 | abrotman | so some stuff plays .. and some doesn't ? |
| 00:33.41 | Toad | abrotman: well, mpg123 is the only thing I've gotten to work |
| 00:33.54 | Toad | (and catting to d/ev/audio or /dev/dsp) |
| 00:33.56 | abrotman | Toad: some other audio player ? |
| 00:34.15 | abrotman | Toad: what if you use the youtube-dl .. and use that with vlc or something ? |
| 00:34.24 | Toad | abrotman: tried vlc with a .mpg that has an audio track |
| 00:34.38 | Toad | no audio cmoes out, though it seems to lock something or other, because vlc complains if I try to do both at once |
| 00:34.44 | Toad | downloading audacious now |
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| 00:35.16 | Toad | though I should probably give up for now... got a poker game in 25 minutes and I live 40 minutes away :) |
| 00:35.38 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:35.54 | dsl_ | !gnome |
| 00:35.54 | dpkg | i guess gnome is a desktop environment - see http://www.gnome.org. a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, see #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org, or - to get gnome, ask about <install gnome>, or the human G-nome, or ask me about <gnome status> |
| 00:36.08 | Toad | abrotman: audacious can't seem to play either |
| 00:36.12 | abrotman | cute |
| 00:36.12 | Toad | though it says it loaded ap-alsa.so |
| 00:36.12 | dsl_ | !install gnome |
| 00:36.13 | dpkg | To install GNOME on sarge or later, install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <set up x>. |
| 00:36.18 | abrotman | dsl_: msg the bot |
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| 00:37.24 | Toad | aha! |
| 00:37.36 | Toad | I changed audacious's alsa plugin to use the "analog" output instead of "default" |
| 00:37.40 | Toad | so how do I change the alsa default? |
| 00:38.10 | abrotman | i think you just select it .. and quit normally nad it saves it |
| 00:39.45 | draeath | Toad it looks like you dont have your MP3 decoder installed. |
| 00:39.52 | draeath | probably liblame or libmad |
| 00:39.56 | abrotman | no |
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| 00:39.57 | Toad | draeath: no, I'm pretty sure it's the ALSA device |
| 00:39.58 | draeath | maybe ffmpeg |
| 00:40.02 | abrotman | not needed |
| 00:40.15 | draeath | If you get noise if you pipe to /dev/dsp, its not your sound device |
| 00:40.24 | abrotman | he said mpg123 works |
| 00:40.33 | draeath | mpg123 has mp3 built-ion |
| 00:40.35 | Toad | draeath: if I change audacious to point to "default" under the alsa plugin it doesn't work |
| 00:40.37 | draeath | er, built-in |
| 00:40.43 | Toad | if I change it to "analog" it works fine |
| 00:40.43 | draeath | vlc and friends use libraries |
| 00:40.47 | Toad | so I'm betting it's going out my digital spdif out |
| 00:40.49 | abrotman | draeath: you don't need liblame .. |
| 00:40.58 | abrotman | Toad: pcm vs master ? |
| 00:41.13 | draeath | hmm. im just gonna step out of the discussion ;) |
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| 00:42.17 | Toad | abrotman: digital vs analog |
| 00:42.45 | abrotman | maybe you have to configure the asound to only use hte one output |
| 00:42.57 | Toad | not using asound |
| 00:43.05 | Toad | oh wait, I am |
| 00:43.08 | Toad | that's alsa's lib eh? |
| 00:43.21 | dsl_ | how much damage could someone do as far with about 4 minutes access to my machine? bios password is enabled. |
| 00:43.22 | Toad | where is alsa.conf though? |
| 00:43.57 | Toad | /usr/share/alsa/ ? |
| 00:44.02 | abrotman | dsl_: huh ? |
| 00:44.07 | abrotman | Toad: likely in /etc/ somewhere |
| 00:44.14 | Toad | abrotman: nope, checked |
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| 00:44.36 | abrotman | /etc/asound.conf ? or something liek that ? |
| 00:44.54 | abrotman | Toad: you might want to go to the poker game .. and ask #alsa later |
| 00:44.57 | randall | how can i get to other computers on my network using debian like i wanna get files off my wifes computer |
| 00:45.13 | abrotman | scp is easy |
| 00:45.29 | Toad | abrotman: :P you're right. ttyl |
| 00:45.39 | abrotman | later |
| 00:45.39 | dsl_ | abrotman: nm. |
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| 00:48.49 | draeath | dsl_: sledgehammer |
| 00:49.23 | draeath | lots of damage. Now, if you are interested in a particular KIND of damage.... ;) |
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| 00:50.24 | dsl_ | draeath |
| 00:50.30 | Sling | ahh sledgehammers |
| 00:50.32 | dsl_ | meh |
| 00:50.36 | Sling | gotta love 'em |
| 00:50.49 | dsl_ | NOT PHYSICAL |
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| 00:51.36 | dsl_ | anyway. i got gnome, kde, and xfce installed. when i start x it automatically selects gnome. is there some sort of intermediary between the console and the WM so that when i start x i will have the option to choose which WM to use right then? |
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| 00:52.11 | abrotman | okay then |
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| 00:52.50 | dsl_ | closed the wrong window |
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| 00:53.54 | Supaplex | Windows? where we're going, we don't need Windows(tm). |
| 00:54.08 | dsl_ | so is that possible? I think i remember that's how redhat was when i used it years ago |
| 00:54.21 | dsl_ | did that even print to the channel? |
| 00:54.34 | Supaplex | !xinitrc |
| 00:54.34 | dpkg | methinks xinitrc is just use ~/.xsession, or (See entry for ".xinitrc"), or (See entry for "xsession") |
| 00:54.45 | abrotman | dsl_: then use gdm or kdm or something like that |
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| 01:02.58 | dsl_ | abrotman: does either have any advantages? |
| 01:03.18 | dsl_ | or is it personal prefference |
| 01:03.25 | zophy[] | how do i view or convert a bin/cue video file ? |
| 01:03.29 | abrotman | dsl_: no idea .. i use gdm |
| 01:03.46 | abrotman | !bin/cue |
| 01:03.46 | dpkg | .bin and .cue files are part of a Golden Hawk Technology CDRWIN image. You can convert a CDRWIN image to ISO/WAV with "bchunk". You can also burn the image using cdrdao. |
| 01:03.52 | dsl_ | zophy[]: you mean the one you illegally downloaded off of limewire? |
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| 01:04.17 | zophy[] | what's limewire ? |
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| 01:05.52 | bobstro | i foolishly installed a bunch of X stuff on a box that runs headless and would like to purge that stuff off. any tools for "server-izing" a box short of individually selecting and uninistalling packages? |
| 01:06.17 | abrotman | remove like libx11 etc ... |
| 01:06.30 | abrotman | bobstro: did you use aptitude to instlal them ? |
| 01:06.46 | bobstro | abrotman: no, been built up over a couple of years via apt mostly. |
| 01:07.05 | themill | !remove x |
| 01:07.06 | dpkg | hmm... remove x is "aptitude remove x11-common" will remove X. use "purge" instead of remove if you want it to also remove X's configuration. |
| 01:07.06 | stew | bobstro: /msg dpkg remove x |
| 01:07.06 | abrotman | bobstro: dpkg -l libx* ... start removing |
| 01:07.13 | abrotman | or that .. cheater |
| 01:07.24 | abrotman | tells mrs themill that he's up past his bed time |
| 01:07.38 | themill | yeah... there is that... |
| 01:07.38 | bobstro | ah thanks! that will yank out dependencies too then? |
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| 01:10.47 | stew | bobstro: yes |
| 01:11.32 | bobstro | hmm. getting a message about downgrading x11-common, xserver-xorg. looks like i have some homework to do, but that gets me very close. thanks guys. |
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| 01:14.55 | jpin | Hi, does anyone know how can i set a timeout on DHCPREQUEST ? |
| 01:15.06 | jpin | (I'm trying to set a shorter one)... |
| 01:15.31 | jpin | i mean, a timeout on the dhcp discover process |
| 01:16.04 | jstad | If i am trying to setup a mail server for mail.insyntax.com and my box name is dopey.insyntax.com how do I go about setting this up without risking getting blacklisted? |
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| 01:16.31 | lazarus477 | Good evening |
| 01:17.16 | lazarus477 | Does someone here know if there has been some odd change to OpenSSH in Debian Lenny recently. I am having trouble doing ssh to my box as root? |
| 01:18.47 | abrotman | it defaults to not allow root IIRC |
| 01:19.00 | lazarus477 | IIRS? |
| 01:19.06 | lazarus477 | IIRC? |
| 01:19.07 | abrotman | !iirc |
| 01:19.07 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 01:19.16 | lazarus477 | aha! |
| 01:19.24 | lazarus477 | that would explain plenty |
| 01:19.25 | blameless | what do you guys do when dpkg bot is down? heh |
| 01:19.27 | lazarus477 | ty |
| 01:19.37 | abrotman | blameless: we would type it out |
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| 01:19.53 | abrotman | jpin: man 5 interfaces .. or read the dhclient.conf stuff |
| 01:19.58 | abrotman | jpin: but i'm not sure you can |
| 01:20.07 | jrabbit | I'm reciving a perl error in apt : http://rafb.net/p/mZ686b96.html |
| 01:20.16 | lazarus477 | Na my mistake. I have been out of the chat loop for some time so when I get an acronym I think it is some tech jargon, lol. |
| 01:20.18 | abrotman | jstad: probably ask the channel for your smtp server |
| 01:20.45 | abrotman | jrabbit: which version of debian ? |
| 01:20.59 | jrabbit | Etch dist-upgrading to testing |
| 01:21.07 | abrotman | !find File/Copy.pm etch |
| 01:22.08 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'File/Copy.pm' (1): (/usr/share/perl/5.8.8/File/Copy.pm) in perl/perl-modules. |
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| 01:22.36 | jrabbit | ? |
| 01:23.18 | abrotman | can you install that ? |
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| 01:24.24 | jrabbit | abrotman: what do you mean? |
| 01:25.11 | abrotman | the perl-modules package |
| 01:25.37 | jrabbit | doing an ls on it i don't have it |
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| 01:26.09 | jrabbit | abrotman: how do I install it?? |
| 01:26.34 | abrotman | jrabbit: dpkg -l perl-modules .. do you have it? |
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| 01:26.49 | jrabbit | i checked in /File |
| 01:26.50 | jrabbit | no |
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| 01:27.29 | abrotman | wget http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/p/perl/perl-modules_5.8.8-7etch3_all.deb |
| 01:27.31 | jrabbit | it says iU? |
| 01:27.37 | jrabbit | ugh |
| 01:27.37 | abrotman | and then dpkg -i perl-modules_5.8.8-7etch3_all.deb |
| 01:27.52 | jrabbit | massive PITA I have to manually copy that to my debian box |
| 01:27.53 | jrabbit | <_< |
| 01:27.59 | abrotman | why? |
| 01:28.02 | abrotman | no network? |
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| 01:28.22 | jrabbit | I guess I could ftp it... |
| 01:28.37 | jrabbit | gnome is beyond fucked though |
| 01:28.46 | abrotman | use the cli .. it works fine with wget |
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| 01:29.17 | jrabbit | what do you not understand |
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| 01:29.38 | jrabbit | I cannot transfer that to it. |
| 01:30.10 | jmichaelx | when i try to run synaptic in a fresh lenny install, i get the message "Failed to execute child process "synaptic" (No such file or directory)". any idea what the issue may be? |
| 01:30.13 | abrotman | how did you install etch? how are you dist-upgrading ? |
| 01:30.23 | abrotman | jmichaelx: did you install it ? |
| 01:30.34 | jmichaelx | abrotman, yes, i did. |
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| 01:30.49 | cast | i have to download a series of files from a download section of a site requiring login, any suggestions on how i can pull this off? wget --load-cookies $site gets me a 'need to login', firefox $site will go straight to the download page though. any suggestions? |
| 01:30.58 | jmichaelx | i did the net install, like i had talked about a few hours ago |
| 01:31.43 | abrotman | oh .. the wireless guy |
| 01:31.48 | jmichaelx | abrotman, this old machine is running better right now than it has in years |
| 01:31.54 | jmichaelx | yeah, the wireless guy |
| 01:32.56 | abrotman | could be a bug in synaptic .. bugs.debian.org/synaptic .. i'm on lenny, but i don't use synaptic |
| 01:33.35 | jmichaelx | i did a base install, added xorg and xfce, and a few dozen other apps, etc., and this is running so much better than xubuntu |
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| 01:34.08 | jmichaelx | abrotman, synaptic did run at least once immediately after i first installed it, but now it refuses |
| 01:34.09 | netdaemon | aptitude's fine with me |
| 01:34.19 | abrotman | jmichaelx: strace it ? |
| 01:34.29 | jmichaelx | yeah, i will just need to learn how to use aptitude |
| 01:34.51 | jmichaelx | abrotman, i am not familiar with strace, but i will look into it |
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| 01:35.42 | abrotman | jmichaelx: from an xterm .. 'strace synaptic' |
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| 01:37.30 | jmichaelx | abrotman, that gave a significant amount of output |
| 01:37.43 | abrotman | i bet it did |
| 01:37.47 | abrotman | anything look useful near the end ? |
| 01:38.03 | jmichaelx | i will post one line in here |
| 01:38.10 | lazarus477 | OpenSSH. I have read through the man pages and check my ssh_config and find no /etc/nologin file. I cannot ssh to host as root not even with "ssh root@localhost", I get "permission denied", "Permission denied (publickey,password).". Any hint as to what the heck is going on? |
| 01:38.21 | jmichaelx | synaptic:7320): Gtk-WARNING **"..., 56 |
| 01:38.21 | jmichaelx | (synaptic:7320): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 01:38.21 | jmichaelx | ) = 56 |
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| 01:38.28 | abrotman | lazarus477: but as a user ? |
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| 01:38.35 | abrotman | jmichaelx: are you starting it as root? or a user ? |
| 01:39.00 | jmichaelx | abrotman, i ran strace as root, but i have been starting synaptic as user |
| 01:39.08 | lazarus477 | as a user works fine |
| 01:39.13 | lazarus477 | locally and remotelly |
| 01:39.15 | abrotman | you should probably do the strace the same as normal |
| 01:39.31 | abrotman | lazarus477: did you set AllowRoot to yes ? or whatever the option is ? |
| 01:39.48 | jmichaelx | i think strace has to be run as root |
| 01:39.52 | lazarus477 | nope because I did not find that option in the config or the man page, lol. |
| 01:39.56 | abrotman | jmichaelx: nope |
| 01:39.57 | lazarus477 | I shall check it again |
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| 01:40.09 | Baloo | jmichaelx: no.... |
| 01:40.15 | abrotman | lazarus477: PermitRootLogin |
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| 01:40.29 | Baloo | jmichaelx: If you run man <command> and it has a (1) after it, you don't need root. |
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| 01:40.39 | Baloo | strace(1) |
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| 01:40.48 | jmichaelx | abrotman, ok, interesting. when strace is run as user, it says strace: synaptic: command not found |
| 01:41.02 | jmichaelx | ty Baloo |
| 01:41.12 | abrotman | jmichaelx: does /usr/bin/synaptic exist ? |
| 01:41.16 | lazarus477 | AllowRoot and PermitRootLogin are not in the man page for sshd, hmm. I could have sworn I saw it once upon a time........ |
| 01:41.34 | abrotman | lazarus477: it's PermitRootLogin .. not AllowRoot .. and man sshd_config |
| 01:41.44 | lazarus477 | will do |
| 01:41.45 | abrotman | jmichaelx: sorry .. does /usr/sbin/synaptic exist ? |
| 01:41.54 | jmichaelx | abrotman, it does not appear to |
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| 01:42.09 | abrotman | jmichaelx: aptitude install synaptic |
| 01:42.31 | jmichaelx | ok, /usr/sbin/synaptic does exist |
| 01:42.39 | saskwach | I recently upgraded my nvidia drivers (the Debian way, m-a) and now glxinfo gives NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run. \n The current CPU does not support SSE. Is there a driver that doesn't require SSE that will work on a GeForce 5200FX? (my system: sid/athlon Tbird) |
| 01:42.44 | lazarus477 | I just checked man ssh_config, there is no text matching "PermitRootLogin", something is off here! I ran a full-upgrade last night. |
| 01:42.45 | abrotman | jmichaelx: so if you type the full path .. any better ? |
| 01:42.50 | jmichaelx | /usr/bin/synaptic does not exist |
| 01:42.58 | lazarus477 | I shall add it though to try it. |
| 01:42.59 | abrotman | lazarus477: man sshd_config |
| 01:43.04 | lazarus477 | aha |
| 01:43.05 | abrotman | the *d* is important |
| 01:43.22 | lazarus477 | Halleluja! |
| 01:43.23 | lazarus477 | Thanks |
| 01:43.29 | lazarus477 | Shall see if thats my prob |
| 01:44.21 | lazarus477 | that was set to no, lol. |
| 01:44.24 | lazarus477 | Thanks a bunch |
| 01:44.38 | lazarus477 | Now I only wasted like 3 hours trying to figure that out, lol. |
| 01:44.55 | jmichaelx | abrotman, if i run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user, synaptic does start, although it tells me that since i am not root, i will not be able to make any changes |
| 01:45.09 | abrotman | okay .. and if you run it as root from the shell ? |
| 01:45.18 | jmichaelx | if i run the same as root, i get a GTK warning |
| 01:45.28 | jmichaelx | and it does not start |
| 01:45.43 | lazarus477 | perfect, works now, ty so much! SmOoCh! |
| 01:46.01 | jmichaelx | PDAs are not allowed in this channel |
| 01:46.40 | abrotman | jmichaelx: is gksu installed ? |
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| 01:47.42 | jmichaelx | abrotman, yes, gksu is already installed |
| 01:48.39 | abrotman | jmichaelx: and if you run `gksu synaptic` ? |
| 01:49.39 | jmichaelx | abrotman, that did the trick. may thanks. |
| 01:49.46 | jmichaelx | many* |
| 01:50.04 | abrotman | seems silly .. like it should do that on its own |
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| 01:50.19 | jmichaelx | it does seem unusual |
| 01:50.32 | Nyle | is sunday over yet |
| 01:50.37 | Nyle | ? |
| 01:50.45 | abrotman | Nyle: your autojoin channel list is missing an entry :) |
| 01:50.52 | jmichaelx | sunday had 4.5 hours to go here |
| 01:50.54 | Nyle | heh |
| 01:50.58 | Nyle | ye yeh :) |
| 01:51.04 | dustybin | this is excellent |
| 01:51.05 | dustybin | http://youtube.com/watch?v=WVTWCPoUt8w |
| 01:51.06 | Nyle | i'll add it here soon enough |
| 01:52.09 | bpgoldsb | I'm looking to setup a cronjob to email me of any outstand package updates on my Debian machine. Anyone know of a package that can do this? |
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| 01:52.54 | abrotman | !info cron-apt etch |
| 01:52.56 | dpkg | cron-apt: (automatic update of packages using apt-get), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.4.14 (etch), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 88 kB |
| 01:53.34 | bpgoldsb | Thank you sir. |
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| 01:55.29 | jmichaelx | i hate to ask this, but... is there by chance anyone who is maintaining a repo that contains xmms right now? |
| 01:55.40 | abrotman | xmms2 is in lenny |
| 01:55.44 | abrotman | or try audacious ? |
| 01:56.00 | Nyle | Amarok! |
| 01:56.33 | miksuh | rhytmbox :) |
| 01:56.37 | miksuh | +h |
| 01:56.44 | jmichaelx | i have installed audacious... but it's just not my good old xmms |
| 01:57.35 | abrotman | no it's not |
| 01:57.44 | jmichaelx | does xmms2 have a decent front end yet? |
| 01:57.52 | abrotman | no idea .. |
| 01:58.01 | Nyle | what is so special about xmms? |
| 01:58.12 | jmichaelx | audacious takes longer to fire up, and it often chokes on live streaming |
| 01:58.22 | Nyle | jmichaelx, what kind of a computer do you have? |
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| 01:58.40 | Nyle | you have 32mb of ram? or a p2 cpu? |
| 01:58.42 | Nyle | 1gb hdd? |
| 01:59.04 | abrotman | jmichaelx: http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Clients |
| 01:59.05 | jmichaelx | Nyle, i have several, but this is a 500Mhz AMD K6-2 w/ 256MB RAM |
| 01:59.12 | Nyle | jmichaelx, I was close! |
| 01:59.23 | Nyle | I had a p3 866mhz with 128mb ram |
| 01:59.23 | jmichaelx | Nyle, not too far off |
| 01:59.31 | Nyle | shit took ages to start man |
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| 01:59.35 | jmichaelx | nyle, that is a nice machine |
| 01:59.38 | miksuh | English is weird language, come on.. Rhythmbox.. That's difficult to write and impossible to pronounce :) |
| 01:59.44 | Monobi2 | http://pastebin.com/d1dc61d40 - what am I doing wrong |
| 02:00.03 | Nyle | miksuh, RIDHH UM BOX |
| 02:00.18 | Nyle | its not hard at all to say, if you can't type, thats a different thing, but spelling isn't hard either |
| 02:00.25 | Nyle | its just rhythm and box |
| 02:00.28 | Nyle | wth |
| 02:00.52 | miksuh | well rhythm is impossible too :) |
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| 02:01.05 | Nyle | exasperation! |
| 02:01.14 | abrotman | Monobi2: it tells you to read the docs |
| 02:01.51 | jmichaelx | maybe it is time to play with xmms2.... or just have my live streaming go to mpg321 |
| 02:02.03 | Nyle | jmichaelx, I think is a BMP (Beep media player) |
| 02:02.07 | Nyle | its a winamp/xmms lookalike |
| 02:02.14 | Nyle | I don't know about the functionality |
| 02:02.38 | jmichaelx | i think that has been replaced with bmpx |
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| 02:03.00 | Monobi2 | abrotman: there is no README |
| 02:03.10 | Nyle | all debian packages have a readme |
| 02:03.31 | abrotman | Monobi2: /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.0/README.Debian.gz |
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| 02:03.57 | Nyle | Monobi2, zcat/zless |
| 02:04.16 | mredz | hi all help with a bash script prob pls... |
| 02:04.17 | Nyle | I actually read about this ubuntu user who ungzipped the doc and then read it |
| 02:04.20 | Nyle | heh |
| 02:04.27 | Nyle | some forum |
| 02:04.33 | Nyle | mredz, probably #bash |
| 02:04.39 | Nyle | mredz, unless its debian specific... |
| 02:05.02 | mredz | nah not really ok i'll give em a try |
| 02:06.26 | Monobi2 | Yeah |
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| 02:06.27 | Monobi2 | Thanks |
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| 02:11.09 | brick | i have my NAS mounted as //10.1.1.16/main on /synology type cifs (rw,user=rw,passwd=xxx) and despite being root, cannot change permissions of files on it. what do i need to alter so i can chown the files to my users? |
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| 02:11.42 | punto | hi.. how do I tell apt-get to purge a package and then install it, all on the same command? |
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| 02:12.45 | abrotman | punto: dpkg -P <pkg> && aptitude install <pkg? |
| 02:12.45 | abrotman | > |
| 02:12.46 | brick | punto, i think you have to purge with dpkg first, then apt-get instal |
| 02:13.34 | JyZyXEL | !windows |
| 02:13.34 | dpkg | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
| 02:13.37 | JyZyXEL | thats funny |
| 02:14.18 | punto | the problem is that I can't just purge the package because it has a bunch of dependencies, that's why I have to tell it that I'm doing both operations at the same time (purge and reinstall) |
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| 02:16.39 | abrotman | punto: why not just reinstall it ? |
| 02:21.29 | abrotman | punto: ? |
| 02:21.41 | punto | abrotman: when I try to install it it says to purge the old version first (because it's too old I guess) |
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| 02:22.19 | abrotman | punto: paste the error somewhere |
| 02:22.21 | punto | and it's module-init-tools, so to remove it I have to remove all sorts of dependencies |
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| 02:24.37 | msshams | how can i draw an Algebraic curve in linux? with which software? |
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| 02:25.01 | abrotman | gnumeric ? |
| 02:25.06 | abrotman | gnuplot ? |
| 02:25.06 | punto | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/7301/ |
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| 02:25.51 | stiv2k | is there any way to get gedit to recognize custom file extensions as a PHP script and hilight the syntax accordingly? |
| 02:26.21 | Coweater | msshams: geg, graphmonkey |
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| 02:28.20 | abrotman | stiv2k: uhm .. anjuta and bluefish do that |
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| 02:29.56 | stiv2k | abrotman: what are these? |
| 02:30.17 | abrotman | stiv2k: apt-cache show |
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| 02:31.52 | stiv2k | abrotman: cool |
| 02:32.00 | stiv2k | abrotman: I kind of like gedit though, its nice and simple :P |
| 02:32.10 | abrotman | okay |
| 02:32.25 | stiv2k | I think I will give those a try |
| 02:32.51 | damog | vim is too! ;D |
| 02:33.11 | punto | nevermind, I was able to purge it with --force-all |
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| 02:39.18 | komila | hi |
| 02:39.41 | komila | all |
| 02:43.35 | stiv2k | abrotman: is it possible to change the background color with bluefish? |
| 02:43.37 | stiv2k | I do not like white. |
| 02:43.50 | abrotman | stiv2k: uhm .. i can look .. i use vim |
| 02:44.00 | DeltaS4 | anyone tried gnash on lenny? |
| 02:44.58 | facedown | vim > * |
| 02:45.03 | abrotman | stiv2k: not that i can see .. you might want to ask on irc.gnome.org ( think that's wher ethe bluefish cahnnel is) |
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| 02:45.23 | stiv2k | abrotman: ok |
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| 02:52.49 | South3rn | Dusty Kid - The Cat - Crookers Eurocrunk Remix |
| 02:53.17 | abrotman | South3rn: turn that off |
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| 03:04.01 | Nyle | jams to Music Spam - #deibian - do not spam.mp3 |
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| 03:05.49 | abrotman | waves |
| 03:06.37 | Nyle | abrotman, later |
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| 03:07.08 | Nyle | facedown, as Mystikal says... Ain't No Limit |
| 03:07.14 | Nyle | emacs > * |
| 03:07.18 | Nyle | !start an editor war |
| 03:07.18 | dpkg | nvi doesn't deserve to be in BSD |
| 03:07.22 | Nyle | !start an editor war |
| 03:07.28 | Nyle | ops |
| 03:07.30 | Nyle | oops |
| 03:07.42 | facedown | ? |
| 03:07.46 | facedown | Mystikal is lame. |
| 03:08.02 | facedown | Wow, I can't believe you used him as an example |
| 03:08.07 | facedown | One of the lamest people living |
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| 03:08.32 | Nyle | I'm sure many musicians and wrappers have said "Aint no limit" pick one of them if it makes you feel better |
| 03:08.38 | Nyle | rappers |
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| 03:13.43 | n-iCe | is there anyway to request free debian cds? |
| 03:15.27 | Nyle | n-iCe, no |
| 03:15.32 | Nyle | we are not filthy rich |
| 03:15.40 | Nyle | we don't have any billionairs backing us up |
| 03:15.48 | n-iCe | ubuntu is? |
| 03:15.53 | Nyle | yes |
| 03:16.01 | n-iCe | why? |
| 03:16.03 | Nyle | they sell enterprise suppor contracts |
| 03:16.06 | n-iCe | oh |
| 03:16.15 | Nyle | AND Mark Shuttleworth is a multi billionair |
| 03:16.32 | Nyle | the president/owner of canonical, the company tht supports ubuntu |
| 03:16.34 | n-iCe | Well I tried to install debian, but wireless,video card, monitor, etc, didn't work |
| 03:16.45 | n-iCe | Someone was helping me but all crashed I needed to reinstall |
| 03:17.05 | Nyle | there is nothing wrong with using ubuntu if that makes your life easier |
| 03:17.23 | Nyle | if you don't want to go through the hassles of using debian, use something else |
| 03:17.32 | H2S04 | Nyle: yeah well what computer do you have :P |
| 03:17.57 | n-iCe | Nyle like what? I reinstalled vista :S |
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| 03:20.04 | Nyle | n-iCe, have you read the debian install guide? |
| 03:20.45 | Nyle | n-iCe, what is your hardware? tell us the model video/nic? |
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| 03:23.36 | bobstro | n-iCe: you can order debian cds very inexpensively if you want. |
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| 03:24.34 | Nyle | bobstro, how will that help him? |
| 03:24.50 | Nyle | he would still need to go through hardware configuration |
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| 03:29.07 | bobstro | Nyle: was referring to his question about getting free discs... so yes? |
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| 03:38.47 | n-iCe | Nyle is a gateway intel centrino duo mx6901m |
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| 03:40.56 | odla | i just lenny on a laptop and it has a synaptics touchpad but i don't have vertical scrolling set up ... how can i do this? |
| 03:41.11 | odla | er ... just installed lenny |
| 03:41.21 | erpo | odla: *shrug* It was automatic on Ubuntu. I'll see if there's anything good in my xorg.conf file. |
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| 03:42.14 | maxamillion | it was automatic on my machine running debian as well ... it might just have to do with your model of touchpad that wasn't detected correctly |
| 03:42.32 | odla | maxamillion: but it's been detected before on debian |
| 03:42.33 | erpo | odla: http://pastebin.com/m7a48318c |
| 03:42.37 | erpo | odla: That's what I have. |
| 03:42.44 | maxamillion | odla: interesting |
| 03:44.36 | odla | erpo: thanks i'll try that |
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| 03:48.43 | shifty | anybody know how to get bash autocompletion to play nicely with a sudo'd command? as in 'sudo emac <TAB>' to get 'sudo emacs' ??? |
| 03:48.45 | owen1 | how do i get info about the -R optiot |
| 03:48.54 | owen1 | option in aptitude install? |
| 03:49.31 | erpo | owen1: man aptitude ? |
| 03:49.55 | owen1 | erpo: ok. i thought it's somewhere else.. |
| 03:50.08 | erpo | owen1: It shows up in my man page... |
| 03:50.10 | Agrajag- | shifty: i'm pretty sure the bash-completion package provides that functionality |
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| 03:52.30 | owen1 | erpo: how do i find it in the man. i type /-R but can't see any result. |
| 03:52.58 | shifty | agrajag: thanks! i changed systems and that functionality disappeared. Of course, it also annoyed me, but I've had to type invoke-rc.d one too many times! |
| 03:53.14 | erpo | owen1: And you hit enter after typing /-R ? |
| 03:53.23 | owen1 | erpo: let me try. |
| 03:54.14 | owen1 | erpo: \fB-R\fR, \fB--without-recommends\fR i guess that's it? |
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| 03:54.35 | odla | erpo: what do you have in your serverlayout section? |
| 03:54.48 | shifty | agrajag: update, 100% accurate diagnosis. works a charm. |
| 03:55.43 | erpo | owen1: That's what I get. |
| 03:56.14 | erpo | owen1: Are you actually seeing backslash f B hyphen R backslash... on your screen? |
| 03:57.11 | owen1 | erpo: i am trying to understand what aptitude install -R means? |
| 03:57.22 | erpo | odla: Here's the whole thing: http://pastebin.com/m6218e0f |
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| 03:58.01 | erpo | owen1: I think the man page is pretty clear. Is there any part of it that's not clear to you? |
| 03:58.14 | path_ | what was the package to autcomplete using apt ? |
| 03:58.19 | path_ | autocomplete* |
| 03:59.24 | Nyle | bash-completion |
| 03:59.27 | Nyle | ? |
| 03:59.28 | owen1 | why \fB-R\fR, \fB--without-recommends\fR equals to what i am looking for? |
| 04:00.16 | erpo | owen1: Are you comfortable with using man pages to find information? |
| 04:00.22 | path_ | Nyle it can be used to complete packages as you install them through apt ? |
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| 04:00.31 | path_ | s/complete/autocomplete |
| 04:00.31 | erpo | path_: It does that on my machine. |
| 04:00.39 | path_ | thanks erpo :-) |
| 04:01.14 | erpo | path_: Actually I should be more careful. My machine does that, and also that package is installed. It could be correlation rather than causation. |
| 04:01.25 | erpo | path_: But I suspect it's causation. |
| 04:01.35 | path_ | um |
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| 04:02.25 | Nyle | $>zless /usr/share/doc/bash/README.bash_completion.gz |
| 04:02.49 | path_ | :D |
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| 04:04.52 | R_YoYo_R | is #debian bakc on freenode or is this unofficial? |
| 04:05.19 | Nyle | unofficial |
| 04:05.32 | R_YoYo_R | ahh |
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| 04:05.47 | R_YoYo_R | whats the official? do more people come here? |
| 04:05.51 | owen1 | erpo: i am trying to get used to it. |
| 04:06.20 | owen1 | erpo: it's not the most usable interface in the world. |
| 04:06.30 | erpo | owen1: Ok. If you're actually seeing things like \fB-R\fR on your screen, something is wrong. |
| 04:07.38 | erpo | owen1: It should say -R, --without-recommends on that line. |
| 04:07.52 | R_YoYo_R | whats the official channel?> |
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| 04:15.05 | Kumool | R_YoYo_R, its in the OFTC server |
| 04:15.31 | R_YoYo_R | Kumool: thanks. |
| 04:15.36 | Kumool | R_YoYo_R, and it currently only has 30x ppl |
| 04:15.48 | R_YoYo_R | Kumool: so .... i don tget it\ |
| 04:15.50 | Kumool | so more ppl here... and more ppl that can help ya so dont worry |
| 04:15.51 | beardy | Either is equally inofficially official afaik. The only thing is that irc.debian.org points to OFTC. |
| 04:16.15 | beardy | Nowadays. |
| 04:16.16 | owen1 | erpo: let's hope it's only this man page. |
| 04:17.30 | Kumool | R_YoYo_R, this used to b official (or something i cant remember i may be xtremely wrong about this) but they changed it due to the way freenode works or the license or something like that |
| 04:18.19 | R_YoYo_R | Kumool: yea i remember that. I have come back to debian stable .... bleeding edge distros are sooo buggy......not debian |
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| 04:27.25 | Kumool | hmm why is it that pidgin is on the backports? |
| 04:27.41 | Kumool | is there a newer version available? the current is incredibly old |
| 04:28.03 | Nyle | kopete ftw |
| 04:28.09 | Nyle | pidgin suxors |
| 04:28.14 | R_YoYo_R | Kumool: get the one in backports |
| 04:28.21 | Kumool | kopete? KDE? rite? |
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| 04:28.25 | Kumool | yes i did |
| 04:28.26 | R_YoYo_R | Nyle: kopete doesnt have all protocols |
| 04:28.33 | Kumool | but its still a very old version |
| 04:28.33 | odla | what's the gnome clock applet called? |
| 04:28.39 | Nyle | like which ones does it not have? |
| 04:28.47 | R_YoYo_R | myspace is a big one |
| 04:29.00 | Nyle | man fuck myspace |
| 04:29.03 | Nyle | and fuck myspace users |
| 04:29.10 | Kumool | hmm well not much but i think pidgin has options to not see pix |
| 04:29.16 | R_YoYo_R | easy for you to say. everyone is on myspace |
| 04:29.19 | Kumool | Nyle, good thing u noticed that |
| 04:29.25 | Nyle | :) |
| 04:29.29 | Kumool | yeah its horrible |
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| 04:29.38 | Nyle | plague upon society |
| 04:30.20 | erpo | Hey, my friend met his wife on myspace. |
| 04:30.29 | Nyle | great, fuck them too |
| 04:30.36 | wols_ | Nyle: you don't know what's in: everybody was on facebook and is now on twitter |
| 04:30.44 | wols_ | myspace is last decade's news |
| 04:30.48 | Nyle | wols_, oh really? |
| 04:30.54 | Nyle | hanh |
| 04:30.55 | wols_ | myspace is not even a has been anymore |
| 04:31.01 | erpo | I tried twitting but I just don't have the stamina. Anyone else have that problem? |
| 04:31.21 | Kumool | KDE uses more resources Nyle so i cant do kopete |
| 04:31.22 | R_YoYo_R | i manage facebook servers |
| 04:31.24 | Nyle | I only got on facebook cuz of my family |
| 04:31.34 | Nyle | all my cousins my age getting married having babies |
| 04:31.42 | Nyle | my old middle school friends |
| 04:31.46 | Nyle | people I've not seen in ages |
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| 04:32.06 | Nyle | thats why I liked facebook, also because it has a option for closed profile so other people can't see it |
| 04:32.08 | Nyle | private |
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| 04:32.18 | R_YoYo_R | Nyle: myspace like invented that |
| 04:32.28 | Nyle | umm no |
| 04:32.33 | erpo | And it didn't work. |
| 04:32.33 | R_YoYo_R | Nyle: ummm ya |
| 04:32.35 | Nyle | by default every profile was public |
| 04:32.41 | Nyle | and still is |
| 04:32.51 | erpo | Remember that torrent of pics from supposedly private myspace profiles? It was on slashdot a while ago... |
| 04:32.52 | R_YoYo_R | Nyle: ok....by default. its one checkbox to switch |
| 04:33.05 | Nyle | why do they assume I want the whole world to know my business? |
| 04:33.19 | R_YoYo_R | Nyle: dunno |
| 04:33.23 | Nyle | then fuck em |
| 04:33.31 | Kumool | myspace only took making a personal website and automate it thats all it did |
| 04:33.35 | Nyle | just like MS, who think they know what I want in a OS |
| 04:33.42 | R_YoYo_R | Nyle: all im saying is i have alot of friends that use the IM so thats why i use pidgin over kopete |
| 04:33.46 | Nyle | or any other exmaple |
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| 04:35.30 | Kumool | pidgin is light also :) |
| 04:35.44 | Kumool | either way nobody asked the question haha |
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| 04:36.46 | owen1 | guys, give myspace the credit since it was the first one. and use finch (text-based version of pidgin). |
| 04:37.03 | R_YoYo_R | finch.....yes thats what i was thinking of |
| 04:37.12 | R_YoYo_R | on the tip of my tounge |
| 04:37.14 | wols_ | owen1: it wasn't. stuff like friendster and such existed before |
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| 04:37.56 | owen1 | true. but MS realy lets u edit the look of your page. |
| 04:37.59 | Kumool | owen1, i looked for a download of finch in the pidgin page and it doesnt even hav a link |
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| 04:38.17 | R_YoYo_R | Kumool: should be in repos |
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| 04:38.25 | owen1 | Kumool: aptitude install finch |
| 04:39.05 | R_YoYo_R | or for the backport http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/finch |
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| 04:40.10 | Kumool | i hav a prob with the backport repository... it says something about there being no public key or something like that |
| 04:40.27 | R_YoYo_R | Kumool: read the backport website |
| 04:40.31 | wols_ | reread the bpo instructions again |
| 04:40.39 | R_YoYo_R | Kumool: you can ignore it.....or fix it |
| 04:41.51 | erpo | Kumool: You probably need to install the public key for that repo. |
| 04:42.29 | Kumool | k k im reading the instructions on the site |
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| 04:44.20 | owen1 | Kumool: i added this: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free |
| 04:44.50 | owen1 | and run this pt-get install debian-backports-keyring (but i don't know what it means) |
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| 04:49.00 | owen1 | kunwon1: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Finch - how to use it |
| 04:49.36 | owen1 | Kumool: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Finch - how to use it |
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| 04:50.40 | owen1 | Kumool: try those keys: F10, F11, alt+n and you should be fine. |
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| 04:52.56 | Guerin | potentially stupid question: if my box with a raid-1 array suffers power failure, will it automatically have to rebuild parity on boot? |
| 04:53.25 | Guerin | (I know as much about raid as I know about explosives - that is, enough to get me into trouble) |
| 04:53.36 | Kumool | argh none of the 3 instructions worked |
| 04:53.47 | Kumool | xcept the 2nd but not the 2nd part |
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| 04:56.26 | erpo | Guerin: There is no parity in raid 1. It's all just duplication of one disk. |
| 04:57.01 | Guerin | erpo: it claims it's rebuilding parity. Since parity means `sameness' it makes sense to me. |
| 04:57.30 | erpo | Guerin: I meant parity in the sense of a checksum or ECC. I guess raid 1 is a simple kind of ECC. |
| 04:57.44 | erpo | Guerin: Anyway, your disks can get out of synch with eachother after a power failure. |
| 04:57.58 | Guerin | ok. |
| 04:58.27 | Guerin | bloody hell, it's going to take hours to rebuild |
| 04:58.40 | Guerin | i guess there's no hurrying it |
| 04:58.48 | erpo | Guerin: Say you write to the array. Your writes may be committed to the second disk but not the first one when power fails (they could have been stuck in disk 1's volatile write cache). |
| 04:59.07 | valdyn | Guerin: that is why you can create many small raids accross 2 disks instead of a large one |
| 04:59.11 | erpo | I guess "rebuilding" in this case would mean copying from one disk to all the others. |
| 04:59.29 | valdyn | Guerin: thats not exactly nice but will avoid most of the rebuild time |
| 04:59.36 | Kumool | hahaha this is sort of funny = W: GPG error: http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
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| 04:59.45 | Guerin | valdyn: impractical in my case since it's a 10g/ and a 220G /data |
| 04:59.54 | Kumool | that happened while running apt-get update |
| 05:00.19 | valdyn | Guerin: guess you arent using lvm |
| 05:00.25 | Inazad | hi there, which is the best company for power supplies ? |
| 05:00.29 | erpo | Guerin: Of course, maybe the filesystem on the disk that's the "master" has less integrity than the filesystems that are being overwritten on the other disks. |
| 05:00.37 | Guerin | valdyn: nope. |
| 05:01.01 | Guerin | Inazad: dumb question. |
| 05:01.25 | Inazad | Guerin, why ? |
| 05:01.40 | erpo | Guerin: raid has a whole host of hidden problems. ZFS solves many of them. :) |
| 05:01.50 | Kumool | Inazad, whats the best lightbulb maker? |
| 05:02.03 | Guerin | Inazad: it's like asking what the best company for making clothes, or cars, or beer. THere's no answer. |
| 05:02.41 | Kumool | :) Guerin that was exactly my point... in a way only i can understand it... |
| 05:02.46 | Guerin | erpo: yeah. I just want to be protected from sudden disk failures without having to keep track of backups all the time. |
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| 05:03.15 | erpo | Guerin: Well if you're using ext* on RAID1, you're not protected. |
| 05:03.54 | Guerin | erpo: I'm not concerned about power loss leading to data loss. |
| 05:04.04 | Guerin | just about random disk failure |
| 05:04.08 | Guerin | i'm due for one, |
| 05:04.45 | erpo | Guerin: Even so, there are so many things that can go wrong that happen as often as random disk failure. |
| 05:04.58 | erpo | And are just as bad. |
| 05:06.38 | Guerin | erpo: you needn't edumacate me on data integrity. I've really just decided to care about disk failure and I realise I'm not protected from a host of other things. But those are mostly too much effort or too expensive to care about at the moment. |
| 05:09.53 | erpo | Even if you don't care about data integrity, zfs-fuse isn't very hard to use or expensive, and it does really fast resilvering after a power failure. |
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| 05:10.55 | erpo | It even does really fast resilvering after a whole disk failure if that's what you're primarily concerned about. |
| 05:11.06 | Guerin | erpo: yeah, I'm cagey about immature technology. |
| 05:11.11 | Supaplex | resilver? |
| 05:11.17 | Guerin | (and I'm not running debian on this box :) |
| 05:11.22 | samplr | I just downloaded the netinstall ISO, but "Configuring apt" is locked at 60% while "Scanning the mirror..." The ISO was debian-40r3-i386-netinst.iso, and my network is up and functional |
| 05:11.32 | erpo | It's not in the repos anyway ;) |
| 05:11.36 | Guerin | hah |
| 05:11.43 | Guerin | bleedin' edge |
| 05:12.01 | erpo | ZFS itself has I think 10 years behind it. |
| 05:12.24 | Supaplex | only 10 programmer years ;) |
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| 05:12.43 | Guerin | hah |
| 05:12.56 | erpo | And it's really resilient. The guy who did the porting made an error where the filesystem driver's internal disk cache was being read from but not written to (that part was #define'd out). So the filesystem driver was getting bad data from teh cache sometimes. |
| 05:13.01 | Guerin | puts it on about a par with reiserfs, then |
| 05:13.16 | erpo | The upper level integrity features caught it and dealt with it beautifully. It's really fault-tolerant, even to coding errors. |
| 05:13.31 | Supaplex | nice :) |
| 05:13.50 | erpo | s/bad data/stale data/ |
| 05:14.01 | erpo | s/teh/the/ :/ |
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| 05:15.25 | Tapout | RIP George Carlin |
| 05:15.37 | diveli | gah! really? |
| 05:15.51 | Tapout | ya :( |
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| 05:16.10 | samplr | :( |
| 05:16.13 | shyam_k | entering through mibbit.com is banned? |
| 05:16.24 | diveli | crap :( |
| 05:16.24 | samplr | Tapout: glad I got to see him |
| 05:16.25 | Supaplex | Tapout: oh my. |
| 05:16.51 | arubin | Tapout: where are you hearing/reading this? |
| 05:16.52 | shyam_k | it was so convinent for me to log on to the channel when i am in college.. |
| 05:16.52 | Tapout | i never got to see him in real life. I watched him for years tho since I had my directv |
| 05:17.02 | Tapout | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,370121,00.html |
| 05:17.07 | Tapout | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Carlin |
| 05:17.08 | samplr | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25322638 |
| 05:17.09 | Tapout | right side of that |
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| 05:18.57 | Tapout | http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/702556/?search_redirect=george%20carlin&tm_link=tm_header_search <-- hrmm |
| 05:19.29 | diveli | hmm... i doubt it! |
| 05:21.20 | arubin | yeah, glad I didn't buy a ticket to his Chicago show! |
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| 05:36.42 | erpo | Is /etc/pam.d/gnome-screensaver the right file to edit if I want to control how I can "unlock" a locked X screen? |
| 05:36.47 | steve_11111 | hello i need help starting X or video or whatever on my newly installed debian.. |
| 05:37.02 | steve_11111 | i signed in, but it didnt start x automatically...and i cant find the commands on google.. |
| 05:37.37 | steve_11111 | and if somebody knows the code..i will ask if there is a command to have X run automatically on startup? |
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| 05:38.09 | Supaplex | !dm |
| 05:38.09 | steve_11111 | can somebody please help me/ |
| 05:38.09 | dpkg | DM means Display Manager, the app that brings up a graphical login screen and starts your login session. <xdm>, <gdm>, <kdm>, <wdm>, pdm, and login.app are all examples of display managers. Ask me about <nodm> if you want to disable the DM.. Dungeon Master |
| 05:38.11 | steve_11111 | ? |
| 05:38.27 | Supaplex | steve_11111: run startx if you don't have a display manager installed. |
| 05:38.37 | steve_11111 | ok.. |
| 05:38.53 | steve_11111 | -bash: startx: command not found |
| 05:39.00 | steve_11111 | thats the error that i recieve when i type startx |
| 05:39.06 | steve_11111 | and no im not logged in as root |
| 05:39.12 | steve_11111 | or superuser..whatever lol |
| 05:39.13 | Supaplex | it appears you do not have xorg installed |
| 05:39.21 | steve_11111 | how do i install xorg? |
| 05:39.32 | Supaplex | you should avoid running it as root anyway (save for some troubleshooting only) |
| 05:39.38 | Supaplex | !xorg |
| 05:39.38 | dpkg | it has been said that xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.3. Ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg (freenode), or ask about <drxx> to reconfigure. |
| 05:39.48 | Supaplex | !get xorg |
| 05:39.48 | dpkg | X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
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| 05:40.10 | steve_11111 | how do i update? |
| 05:40.30 | Supaplex | 1m |
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| 05:40.58 | Supaplex | odd. I have neither of those installed, but I'm clearly running in X. |
| 05:41.30 | Supaplex | do you have a preference for a specific desktop env etc? |
| 05:41.51 | steve_11111 | umm |
| 05:42.10 | steve_11111 | what do you mean by that/ |
| 05:42.11 | steve_11111 | ? |
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| 05:42.39 | Supaplex | !install kde |
| 05:42.40 | dpkg | The metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core, 'kdebase' is the smallest. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at d-i's boot prompt. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/KdeDebInstall |
| 05:43.01 | Supaplex | you install with aptitude install <something ...> |
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| 05:45.00 | steve_11111 | it says i need to get OB of archives...should i just put back in the disk and "attempt" to install it through the CD? |
| 05:45.02 | steve_11111 | or no? |
| 05:45.38 | fl | any plans to switch from gzip2 baded compression of *.deb files to lzma ? |
| 05:45.40 | Supaplex | if you have the cd, it will be faster. if you do not have, or do not wish to use the cd, a one time change is needed to remove the cd line from /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 05:46.42 | steve_11111 | okay..well im just going to use the CD.. |
| 05:46.43 | steve_11111 | lol |
| 05:46.45 | steve_11111 | if its faster |
| 05:47.42 | steve_11111 | what is the wireless internet package? |
| 05:47.57 | steve_11111 | i mean what is it called? |
| 05:47.58 | Supaplex | well, if you have a DS3 connection or better, it's quite possible a mirror is faster. Someone gave me their DVD1 of Sarge back in the day, and it was actually slower to install from the DVD than it was to install via netinst. :) |
| 05:48.06 | Supaplex | !tell steve_11111 -about search |
| 05:48.42 | Supaplex | I don't recall anything significant about wireless. I got it to work once, and forgot everything. :P |
| 05:49.16 | erpo | steve_11111: There's a piece of software called NetworkManager that works quite well. You'll need drivers for your wireless cards too... |
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| 05:49.36 | steve_11111 | okay..thanks |
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| 05:57.58 | liable | wireless-tools has iwconfig and friends |
| 06:00.07 | preds | how can i configure debian to send all http traffic out through a proxy server? |
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| 06:02.22 | erpo | preds: There is more than one way to do that. Where is this http traffic originating? |
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| 06:02.56 | peterrooney | preds: usually this is set in individual applications, not in the OS. |
| 06:02.58 | preds | just apt/wget |
| 06:03.32 | preds | I read about exporting http_proxy and apt will check that env apparently, I was just wondering if I could do it as a system wide thing easily |
| 06:03.45 | erpo | preds: Each application is different. |
| 06:03.47 | preds | perhaps ip tables would be the simplest method? |
| 06:04.14 | erpo | preds: Sounds like a headache waiting to happen. I would recommend iptables as a last resort only. |
| 06:04.15 | bpgoldsb | random (non-debian) question |
| 06:04.30 | bpgoldsb | If I want to use find to search my whole file system, but exclude /home/, any idea how to do that? |
| 06:04.40 | peterrooney | preds: what erpo said. try "man 5 sources.list" , search for proxy |
| 06:04.43 | erpo | preds: Also, google for wget proxy. That will set you right. |
| 06:05.23 | Supaplex | preds: some apps require http_proxy, others require HTTP_PROXY, some require configuration in the application itself, and some (few?) may not support it. /etc/profile might be a semi-central place you can keep it. |
| 06:05.28 | erpo | bpgoldsb: Why do you want to exclude /home? |
| 06:05.41 | peterrooney | bpgoldsb: find -prune |
| 06:05.49 | bpgoldsb | Because it has about 7.4 million files in it, and I know they don't match what I want :) |
| 06:05.54 | \amethyst | bpgoldsb: find / -path /home -prune -o -print |
| 06:06.04 | bpgoldsb | peterrooney: thanks |
| 06:06.06 | bpgoldsb | \amethyst: thanks |
| 06:06.07 | erpo | bpgoldsb: You could try locate. It's quite fast. |
| 06:06.15 | preds | okay, thanks for the input guys - I'll just stick with application specific stuff |
| 06:06.19 | bpgoldsb | I don't run the locate cronjob |
| 06:06.32 | bpgoldsb | And I need to find on -uid, not -name |
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| 06:08.39 | EE_BB | hii all I have downloaded 4.0 r3 then I will install etch or lenny ? how can I configure lenny or etch when I am installing debian ? |
| 06:09.01 | preds | EE_BB: 4.0r3 will be installing etch |
| 06:09.07 | Supaplex | EE_BB: the stable installer will only install stable (etch) |
| 06:09.13 | Guerin | so ... how long would one expect a ~220g raid-1 array a bit over half-full to rebuild? |
| 06:09.15 | preds | if, after install you want to upgrade to lenny you would alter your sources.list |
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| 06:09.40 | EE_BB | preds: ok thanks |
| 06:09.47 | erpo | Guerin: cat /proc/mdstat ? |
| 06:09.58 | preds | Guerin: my guess would be ~3hours +-5 hours :P |
| 06:10.34 | preds | watch -n1 cat /proc/mdstat if you're impatient |
| 06:10.36 | Guerin | erpo: i don't have a shell |
| 06:10.39 | peterrooney | EE_BB: I've sometimes gone over to tty2 and edited /target/etc/apt/sources.list just before downloading :) |
| 06:11.35 | EE_BB | peterrooney: :)) |
| 06:11.48 | EE_BB | good tactic |
| 06:12.08 | erpo | Guerin: I think it works by copying from one disk to all of the others, so I guess divide the capacity of one disk by its sustained write speed. |
| 06:12.09 | peterrooney | EE_BB: I did it first when i had a testing cd, but wanted stable |
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| 06:14.01 | steve_11111 | can somebody help me find the right X11 thing that i need in order to start debian??!? |
| 06:14.03 | steve_11111 | lol |
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| 06:14.16 | Supaplex | apt-get install kdm ? |
| 06:14.17 | Lagbolt | steve_11111, the right x11? |
| 06:14.31 | Lagbolt | steve_11111, apt-get install xorg :) |
| 06:14.42 | Baloo | Wait, there was something there? Or has lol turned into an AOL version of the TTY "GA"? |
| 06:14.55 | Baloo | err, something funny said there/ |
| 06:14.56 | Supaplex | !lol |
| 06:14.56 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 06:15.37 | Supaplex | steve_11111: also, you can hold the nervous laugh, and trade it for a little patience. |
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| 06:15.41 | steve_11111 | yeah but none of those work... |
| 06:15.47 | saint-takeshi | i'm thinking about switching back to debian (went back to window$ for college, when i was doing multimedia, been using ubuntu since then, because it does everything for you) |
| 06:15.49 | EE_BB | when installing software via apt can I choose package options like make configure or gentoo's use flag ? |
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| 06:16.10 | erpo | EE_BB: I don't think so. |
| 06:16.32 | erpo | EE_BB: It's all precompiled. However, debian makes it relatively easy to rebuild packages. |
| 06:16.32 | streuner | !gentoosmite EE_BB |
| 06:16.33 | dpkg | spends 6 days recompiling EE_BB, and when it's all done, EE_BB runs 0.3% faster than previously |
| 06:16.37 | Supaplex | steve_11111: by login to debian, you want a graphical setup to login with your username and password, and then run your stuff after that, right? |
| 06:16.46 | steve_11111 | yes |
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| 06:16.59 | saint-takeshi | any huge changes i should know about? last time i used debian, i think 3.1 was "testing" |
| 06:17.05 | Ozux | hi, any body knows why /proc/kcore size in debian is 0 ? |
| 06:17.27 | Supaplex | steve_11111: did you install kde? I'm just assuming KDE is an okay option for you. there are dozens of different ways to do this with, or without KDE. |
| 06:17.47 | EE_BB | if so how can I know which options enabled with package ? |
| 06:18.05 | streuner | EE_BB: debian/control |
| 06:18.07 | Supaplex | EE_BB: apt-get source. there's no equivilent to USE flags |
| 06:18.11 | steve_11111 | umm |
| 06:18.22 | steve_11111 | when i apt-cache search for kde...it doesnt show up.. |
| 06:18.37 | streuner | EE_BB: get the sources and look into debian/control folder |
| 06:18.55 | Supaplex | steve_11111: did you add any mirrors to sources.list? /msg dpkg sources.list and optionally /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 06:19.09 | Supaplex | steve_11111: after you modify sources.list, run aptitude update |
| 06:19.20 | steve_11111 | how must i do that? |
| 06:19.25 | steve_11111 | add mirrors? |
| 06:19.41 | Supaplex | steve_11111: edit sources.list. did you ask dpkg the factoids I suggested? |
| 06:19.59 | steve_11111 | noo... |
| 06:20.04 | Supaplex | nano is a popular editor for beginners |
| 06:20.14 | steve_11111 | yeah ive used nano before |
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| 06:20.23 | steve_11111 | nano sources.list ...right? |
| 06:20.42 | Supaplex | try it and see |
| 06:20.55 | steve_11111 | nope not it |
| 06:21.10 | Supaplex | sources.list lives in /etc/apt |
| 06:21.11 | streuner | Magic: make a VW become a Porsche, just switch flags |
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| 06:21.43 | steve_11111 | got it |
| 06:21.48 | steve_11111 | now where do i put them? |
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| 06:22.14 | Supaplex | steve_11111: review the suggestions I just gave you. noone is going to do this by hand for you. |
| 06:22.20 | steve_11111 | can you nopaste yours so i can see it? |
| 06:22.22 | steve_11111 | or no? |
| 06:23.00 | Supaplex | I just gave you the tools to approach the same result. |
| 06:24.25 | owen1 | is there a way to automatically mount ipod when it's plugged in (not using desktop environment, just dwm) |
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| 06:26.51 | saint-takeshi | owen1: add it to fstab? |
| 06:27.09 | erpo | owen1: Maybe some sort of udev rule... |
| 06:28.45 | owen1 | saint-takeshi: cool. so if i do something like this: dev/disk/by-id/usb-Apple_iPod_000A27001829456C-0:0-part2 /media/ipod vfat umask=000,uid=0,gid=0,noauto,rw,user 0 0 |
| 06:28.56 | owen1 | saint-takeshi: i am all set. |
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| 06:29.52 | Supaplex | and to add to that, can I run a script after the ipod mounts? |
| 06:30.56 | enouf | iPoop? |
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| 06:32.18 | Supaplex | well suppose it's not an ipod.... |
| 06:32.35 | enouf | owen1: usbmount was made for you |
| 06:33.54 | enouf | farts in Supaplex 's general direction |
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| 06:34.09 | lysdexic | evening |
| 06:34.23 | lysdexic | I have a problem with samba and cups on lenny |
| 06:34.48 | lysdexic | it prints once to the windows printer, then it wont print any more jobs after that |
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| 06:35.13 | lysdexic | I get the error "Unable to connect to Cifs host" |
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| 06:35.42 | lysdexic | if I restart samba and cupsys, it doesnt help in any way, but if I reboot it all works agagin... once |
| 06:36.01 | enouf | ouch |
| 06:36.14 | owen1 | enouf: let me google |
| 06:36.27 | enouf | no |
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| 06:37.44 | Supaplex | no google for yew. |
| 06:37.57 | enouf | apt-cache show |
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| 06:38.51 | enouf | it took me a whole minute to get those few letters correct |
| 06:39.25 | Supaplex | !win enouf |
| 06:39.25 | dpkg | Congratulations, enouf! You have won a one way ticket to Gaza! |
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| 06:39.53 | enouf | farts in Supaplex 's general direction |
| 06:40.12 | Supaplex | hi again :P |
| 06:40.16 | simonrvn | !fart |
| 06:40.16 | dpkg | farts, releasing large quantities of methane and sulfur dioxide. "Evacuate the channel! GO! *gag* SAVE YOURSELVES *cough* MOVE *choke* MOVE!" |
| 06:40.32 | enouf | !moo |
| 06:40.32 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
| 06:40.34 | Supaplex | strikes a match |
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| 06:40.54 | bokey | !poo |
| 06:40.58 | simonrvn | explosion gone? |
| 06:41.05 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 06:41.13 | Supaplex | nope. it didn't light. |
| 06:41.34 | bokey | !@#!@#!@#!#!@# |
| 06:41.37 | saint-takeshi | heh. i've missed the sarcasm in here, since i stopped running debian. |
| 06:41.37 | bokey | :D |
| 06:41.44 | Supaplex | strikes it again while flicking it towards bokey *FOOM*! |
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| 06:42.00 | owen1 | !win enouf |
| 06:42.00 | dpkg | Congratulations, enouf! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 06:42.08 | bokey | heh |
| 06:42.26 | bokey | !spam |
| 06:42.26 | dpkg | somebody said spam was a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, to destroy it, try <spamassassin> (spamd+spamc), razor, crm114 (but be ready to train it for a week), <dspam>, http://www.craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt, <list spam> |
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| 06:43.05 | ReKlipz | !fglrx oneliner |
| 06:43.05 | dpkg | To install fglrx, first make sure you have contrib and non-free sources in your sources.list (ask me about <non-free sources>). Then: aptitude install module-assistant fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src && m-a a-i fglrx && modprobe fglrx && echo fglrx >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 06:44.28 | owen1 | enouf: i got usbmount. where is my ipod? |
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| 06:44.47 | ReKlipz | anyone know how i can run mplayer without having a desktop environment setup> |
| 06:45.21 | owen1 | ReKlipz: u can run it from the cli |
| 06:45.21 | erpo | ReKlipz: Can't you run it from a console? |
| 06:45.25 | wols_ | just run it |
| 06:45.33 | ReKlipz | what about... starting it via ssh |
| 06:45.33 | Blast_Hardcheese | Will it launch X? |
| 06:45.47 | wols_ | no |
| 06:46.01 | wols_ | ReKlipz: no. unless you do X forwarding |
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| 06:46.18 | ReKlipz | I want to watch it on the box that i'm terminal'd into |
| 06:46.29 | Lagbolt | ReKlipz, you can use the aa plugin (i think that is what it is called) and watch in ascii :) |
| 06:46.29 | ReKlipz | just using ssh as a "wireless keyboard" of sorts |
| 06:46.30 | Supaplex | uh, xforwarding would pipe the video back to the login-from side |
| 06:46.43 | wols_ | ReKlipz: not possible except with libcaca0 |
| 06:46.43 | Supaplex | !aalib |
| 06:46.43 | dpkg | aalib is probably a library to do graphics in text mode. Combined with GGI, this will even let you run X or quake in pure text mode. or (actually, trying to run quake or X on the aalib target kinda fails miserably, but it's still a cool idea) or (you _can_ have quake run in text mode, but that's a seperate port of quake to aalib; nothing to do with ggi) |
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| 06:47.38 | ReKlipz | so, it sounds like i need a desktop environemtn |
| 06:47.38 | gunsndroses24 | hi...how do i set my username and password? |
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| 06:47.45 | gunsndroses24 | i never did on the CD..or if i did i did it wrong.. |
| 06:47.53 | Supaplex | ReKlipz: when I want to do something like that, I start screen in an xterminal, then ssh from somepleace else, and share the screen session (no-detach). like screen -xr <session> |
| 06:48.05 | Supaplex | gunsndroses24: adduser |
| 06:48.28 | gunsndroses24 | how do i get into terminal or "stop x" from the login screen? |
| 06:48.31 | gunsndroses24 | alt-f4? |
| 06:48.33 | gunsndroses24 | or what... |
| 06:48.36 | ReKlipz | supaplex, can you walk me through the steps quick? |
| 06:48.37 | gunsndroses24 | imnew to debian |
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| 06:49.07 | wols_ | gunsndroses24: if you install debian it asks you for it and you MUST do it |
| 06:49.08 | Supaplex | wonders if permasunday will ever end |
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| 06:49.24 | wols_ | gunsndroses24: ctrl+alt+f2 |
| 06:49.30 | gunsndroses24 | its already installed..and it didnt ask me for it.. |
| 06:49.36 | gunsndroses24 | should i go into single-user mode/ |
| 06:49.39 | wols_ | gunsndroses24: we don't believe you |
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| 06:49.58 | wols_ | what version of debian did you install exactly? what did you download? |
| 06:49.58 | gunsndroses24 | ??? |
| 06:50.27 | Supaplex | ReKlipz: on the player side, just run screen. when you ssh in, run screen -xr to reconnect. you'll want to reference the screen man page for extended details. screen is nice, but there's a few things to learn about it. |
| 06:50.33 | wols_ | gunsndroses24: what version of debian did you install exactly? what did you download? |
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| 06:51.18 | ReKlipz | Supaplex: there is no keyboard to use on the remote side |
| 06:51.39 | gunsndroses24 | wols_: if you don't believe me...then i don't need your help.. |
| 06:51.50 | gunsndroses24 | the login screen was there...i typed my info and it didn't work.. |
| 06:51.59 | Bert_2 | Hi, does the debian repository contain a nice tool to permanently monitor bandwidth usage on all ports cause I can only find apache mods and temporary monitors ? |
| 06:51.59 | wols_ | !doesn't work |
| 06:51.59 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 06:52.14 | wols_ | Bert_2: iptraf, ipac-ng, etc |
| 06:52.16 | gunsndroses24 | now i went into single-user mode and setup the account |
| 06:52.19 | wols_ | mrtg |
| 06:52.22 | Bert_2 | wols_: okey, thanks man |
| 06:52.28 | gunsndroses24 | it wasn't accepting my login information |
| 06:53.24 | wols_ | gunsndroses24: what version of debian exactly? |
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| 06:53.29 | wols_ | dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 06:53.30 | dpkg | ii libc6 | tail -1 2.2-15.1 wols_'s private porn collection |
| 06:53.34 | Supaplex | ReKlipz: that gets more complicated. :) you could put "screen /bin/bash" into your .xinitrc, ssh in, and run startx. one problem is, I don't recall how to allow remote ssh sessions to startx |
| 06:53.36 | wols_ | run this command |
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| 06:54.15 | Bert_2 | wols_: ipac-ng or ipac or not found in the list, did you miss-spell it or something ? |
| 06:54.31 | wols_ | I really hope ReKlipz has a FAST connection or the movie watching won't work very well |
| 06:54.48 | ReKlipz | i'm not transfering the video... |
| 06:54.55 | wols_ | maybe it's deprecated. use mrtg instead then |
| 06:55.07 | wols_ | you are transfering something worse: the video output |
| 06:55.30 | ReKlipz | i simply dont have a keyboard on my NAS box, want to use the the NAS to watch videos, but dont want to install a desktop environment, or have to attach a keyboard |
| 06:55.37 | ReKlipz | wols_: you're still misunderstanding |
| 06:55.43 | ReKlipz | wols_: I have a tv connected to the NAS |
| 06:55.58 | ReKlipz | want to watch the video on the TV, via the nas, and control it via a ssh session |
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| 06:56.34 | ReKlipz | and, i do have a FAST connection, so i could stream the video if that was the case, but it isnt |
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| 06:57.03 | ReKlipz | anyways, I think it's time to invest in a wireless keyboard... |
| 06:57.07 | ReKlipz | or just install gnome again |
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| 06:59.23 | ReKlipz | okay, i've installed gnome and gdm, the box is sitting at the gdm login screen. how can i have mplayer play on this screen? |
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| 07:09.51 | Ace2016_ | try kde |
| 07:10.41 | elitemind | need some help, I mounted my psp to my system mount /dev/sdc1 psp it shows the files but i cant move any files i want over from my computer to it. What am i doing wrong? |
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| 07:12.23 | elitemind | anyone? |
| 07:12.56 | elitemind | be back in a minute or two |
| 07:13.04 | Ace2016_ | have you mounted it somewhere? |
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| 07:25.32 | reZo | howto make grep exclude certain text? |
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| 07:25.42 | reZo | !grep exclude |
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| 07:25.56 | CryptoMole | hi a' |
| 07:26.04 | CryptoMole | hi all |
| 07:26.14 | reZo | hi |
| 07:26.50 | CryptoMole | ive been having troble with iwlwifi on this thinkpad t60 can anyone help |
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| 07:27.00 | reZo | never mind, -v for my grep q >_> |
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| 07:27.45 | CryptoMole | im using lenny with 2.6.24 kernel |
| 07:28.03 | pozic | What is the Debian version of thunderbird? |
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| 07:28.37 | CryptoMole | ice dove |
| 07:28.43 | CryptoMole | i beleive |
| 07:28.43 | pozic | Thanks |
| 07:29.25 | CryptoMole | i miss thunderbird |
| 07:29.45 | CryptoMole | and the old mozilla browser |
| 07:29.46 | henry_nicolas | Hi, I'v got a problem with Evolution, when I started it, it doesn't display any calendar or tasks (but file looks ok on disk), they are empty. |
| 07:29.46 | henry_nicolas | Any idea ? |
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| 07:30.35 | CryptoMole | dont use it my self |
| 07:30.40 | CryptoMole | gmail |
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| 07:48.19 | JyZyXEL | well pineapples taste kinda good |
| 07:48.24 | JyZyXEL | and cherrys also |
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| 08:00.54 | badcfe_ | openssh server question welcome here? i copy my id_rsa.pub to remote .ssh/authorized_keys and so ssh-add localy and then ssh to the remote host. it asks me for password anyway, any hints? |
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| 08:01.36 | cast | yeah, i just don't have a password on id_rsa :) |
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| 08:02.31 | badcfe_ | cast: no no the problem is not that am asked for the passphrase. it is that the remote sshd asks me for login password |
| 08:02.36 | joltcan_ | badcfe_: wrong permisson on either .ssh or authorized keys file. set .ssh to 0700 and authorized_keys to 0600 |
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| 08:03.44 | joltcan | badcfe_: don't copy it by hand, use ssh-copy-id, it does everything for you |
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| 08:04.07 | badcfe_ | my .ssh is 700 and authorized_keys is 600 on the remote host. |
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| 08:04.28 | cast | fwiw it's fine to have .ssh and authorized_keys world readable afaik. as long as they're not world writable or some such :) |
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| 08:04.55 | becks`` | hi, can i somehow simulate packet loss on e.g. eth0? withouth having another maching running nistnet? |
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| 08:05.32 | badcfe_ | Identity added: .ssh/id_rsa (.ssh/id_rsa) |
| 08:05.51 | badcfe_ | and the id_rsa.pub content is only content in the remote .ssh/authorized_keys |
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| 08:06.08 | badcfe_ | still, the remote sshd asks for login password |
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| 08:06.53 | cast | ssh -v and paste :o |
| 08:07.23 | badcfe_ | cast: on my local host or the remote? |
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| 08:07.41 | badcfe_ | so my problem is that i did http://www.linuxproblem.org/art_9.html but without result |
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| 08:08.15 | badcfe_ | local version is OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-12, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007 |
| 08:08.23 | cast | ssh -v user@host, and paste |
| 08:08.29 | cast | from local to remote |
| 08:08.33 | badcfe_ | remote version is OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9etch2, OpenSSL 0.9.8c 05 Sep 2006 |
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| 08:08.55 | cast | - |
| 08:09.02 | cast | -V is version, -v is verbose :P |
| 08:09.10 | badcfe | oops |
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| 08:10.27 | badcfe | http://yourbackuponline.net/pastebin/20080623101018.txt |
| 08:10.59 | badcfe | sorry for the extremely crappy pastebin site. |
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| 08:13.08 | cast | so can you paste the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub on localhost and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on remotehost |
| 08:15.06 | badcfe | cast: ill do that. by the way -- am i correct in doing ssh-add on the private key or should i have added the private? |
| 08:15.25 | cast | don't need a ssh-add |
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| 08:16.12 | cast | all you need to do is ssh-keygen, don't set a pass, then ssh-copy-id |
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| 08:16.32 | cast | you could use ssh-add, if you wanted the agent to cache your passphrase, mmm, |
| 08:16.32 | pozic | In many e-mail programs one can choose between Sendmail and some smtp server. If one can only choose an smtp server and one still wants to use Sendmail, then one should just select localhost? |
| 08:16.49 | badcfe | http://yourbackuponline.net/pastebin/20080623101628.txt |
| 08:17.44 | petemc | pozic: sendmail is that context means messages not submitted over smtp, but using the local sendmail binary |
| 08:18.21 | pozic | petemc: right, but I supposed that binary (or some related one) was also listening on some port. |
| 08:18.38 | badcfe | cast: all seems well in that paste no? |
| 08:18.44 | cast | badcfe: afaics |
| 08:19.23 | badcfe | cast: nevertheless we saw in that ssh -v session that ssh client kind of jumps over publickey even if it has it good |
| 08:19.35 | badcfe | cast: wats going on in there? |
| 08:20.01 | petemc | pozic: it may well be, but you miss the point, locally submitted does not use smto |
| 08:20.04 | petemc | smtp |
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| 08:21.12 | nick_fn | Hi. Is there a way to have dpkg (or something else?) tell me which conf-files have been edited on a Debian 4.0r3 machine, so they differ from the package maintainer's version? |
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| 08:22.18 | pozic | petemc: if I run a local smtp server (Exim4, which Debian does by default), why shouldn't a mail client be able to send a message to it via the smtp protocol? I am not trying to be a smartass, although that might seem that way. |
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| 08:23.10 | petemc | pozic: it can, im just trying to point out that its submitted different when using local sendmail, than when its submitted via smtp to localhost |
| 08:23.49 | pozic | petemc: sure, I suppose the sendmail binary can just write something to some socket directly (an optimization). |
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| 08:24.19 | petemc | pozic: it calls the binary with various arguments to send the mail |
| 08:24.47 | pozic | petemc: ok, let's put this real simple: what can I fill in the form to make sure that the mail client uses the local mail server? |
| 08:25.02 | petemc | pozic: localhost would work :) |
| 08:25.14 | pozic | petemc: ok, that's what I thought too, just wanted to make sure. |
| 08:25.18 | pozic | petemc: thanks |
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| 08:26.13 | dirkson | Hey all. What package owns Xtest? I've searched and installed packages that I /thought/ could contain xtest, but the package I'm attempting to compile still complains of its absence |
| 08:26.33 | petemc | dpkg -S /path/to/xtest |
| 08:26.33 | dpkg | Badgers ate my /path/to/xtest! |
| 08:26.53 | wols_ | ~!tell dirkson about search |
| 08:26.58 | petemc | dirkson: or if its not installe,d apt-file /msg dpkg search |
| 08:27.24 | wols_ | dirkson: if you compile stuff you usually need the corresponding -dev package |
| 08:27.34 | dirkson | wols_: Ah! Point. |
| 08:27.43 | c0nfl|ct | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:27.52 | dirkson | wols_: Too used to Gentoo. You install the software, you automatically get the source :D |
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| 08:31.37 | dirkson | Any chance anyone here uses Synergy? The copy of synergy on my debian box recently stopped working correctly after a system update. (Synergy still works fine on two other boxen, and has not been updated, so there's no changes in it, merely changes in Debian.) |
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| 08:33.37 | dirkson | Well, too good to expect : ) .... But that package is still complaining about the lack of xtest >.< |
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| 08:34.26 | craigevil | tried apt-get install --reinstall synergy ? |
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| 08:35.51 | dirkson | craigevil: Er... Sorry, I'm not being specific. I'm trying to compile something (as the debian binary isn't working) , and ./configure is complaining. I may have just figured /that/ out, though. (Xtest is actually named xtst in the repositories.) |
| 08:35.52 | se7en | !info mbr |
| 08:36.20 | dpkg | mbr: (Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.1.10-1 (sid), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 92 kB |
| 08:36.24 | dirkson | Buuuuut installing xtst doesn't appear to do anything either. |
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| 08:36.48 | amine | hello, where do you guys rent your dedicated servers from? |
| 08:36.51 | nergalix | When trying to install a package with "apt-get install" I get the error message: "Failed to fetch ... Size mismatch". Anyone has a clue how I can handle this? |
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| 08:37.35 | dirkson | nergalix: When did you last apt-get update ? |
| 08:37.38 | craigevil | dirkson: did you try installing libxcb-xtest0-dev |
| 08:37.45 | nergalix | dirkson: just before |
| 08:37.50 | dirkson | craigevil: Yup |
| 08:37.51 | craigevil | nergalix: apt-get update or try a different server |
| 08:38.05 | dirkson | nergalix: Aye, I'd try to update from a different server. |
| 08:38.09 | nergalix | craigevil: The package is from my own local repository |
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| 08:38.21 | dirkson | nergalix: (Not that I know how to DO that in Debian :D ) |
| 08:38.28 | Ongavezir | Hallelujja testverek |
| 08:38.40 | Ongavezir | Dicsoseges Ongavezir szol hozzatok! |
| 08:38.47 | Ongavezir | Halljatok az iget! |
| 08:39.13 | craigevil | dirkson: sorry havent had to compile anything in forever, if its synergy that your having issues with its in debian repos |
| 08:39.17 | dirkson | What language is that, I can't readily identify it. |
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| 08:40.03 | dirkson | craigevil: Yup, it's synergy. It's not working correctly. My input randomly starts and stops when I move it over to the debian box. |
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| 08:40.42 | craigevil | dirkson: might check the BTS |
| 08:40.57 | dirkson | craigevil: BTS? Bug Tracker? |
| 08:41.01 | nergalix | dirkson, craigevil: You know where apt/dkpg is storing the package information on the local machine? |
| 08:41.33 | dirkson | craigevil: I tried the debian bug tracker, but there are no new issues. |
| 08:41.51 | craigevil | nergalix: in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 08:42.18 | nergalix | craigevil: thx |
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| 08:44.13 | dirkson | Is there anything beyond Synergy that will do the same thing? I'm willing to give up windows computability to get my setup working again. (Work starts soon. It's not like I'll be booting up windows for WORK. Hahaha, the idea of using that OS for anything productive...) |
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| 08:44.52 | craigevil | which version of synergy are you using? |
| 08:45.45 | dirkson | craigevil: Whatever the most recent is? 1.3.1, I think? |
| 08:46.00 | craigevil | Candidate: 1.3.1-3 you run unstable? |
| 08:46.20 | dirkson | *compatibility (Spell checker messed me up) |
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| 08:47.17 | dirkson | craigevil: I am currently running 1.3.1-2.1 |
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| 08:48.17 | dirkson | craigevil: The servers that I potentially connect to are a gentoo box and a windows box, running the version off the synergy website. |
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| 08:49.37 | dirkson | craigevil: I'm unsure where you were going, so you'll have to take the lead here : ) |
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| 08:50.39 | stranger_ | greetings |
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| 08:51.21 | dirkson | stranger_: Heya stranger. (couldn't resist the siren call of the pun...) |
| 08:52.35 | themill | dirkson: I have synergy happily working on both etch and lenny without any problems. Have you tried running it in a debugging mode to find out what's happening? |
| 08:53.00 | stranger_ | I just got a dell vostro desktop computer. I am trying to install debian in it. I downloaded th net install cd. it seems that the installer kernel doesn't support the network chipset and I need to either compile the new driver, which I downloaded, or compile a new kernel, which I downloaded as well |
| 08:53.07 | dirkson | themill: It has a debugging mode! Clever boy! |
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| 08:53.25 | blueberry122 | hello, i am trying to install my wireless card drivers, but i do not know how to.. |
| 08:53.32 | blueberry122 | can somebody please assist me? |
| 08:53.58 | blueberry122 | the name of the card is Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG |
| 08:53.58 | JyZyXEL | isn't there a better grapher than cacti? |
| 08:54.01 | themill | dirkson: both client and server have varying levels of debug spew that they can put out |
| 08:54.08 | stranger_ | but with no net connection I can only depend on cd to transfer data. I copied the files from the cd to the dell computer and tried compiling but got a 'make is not available command' or something like this |
| 08:54.14 | rodneyk | im havin problems with leftover dependencies after apt-get remove or aptitude purge on packages, are there any tools out there that will take the output from dpkg -l (aka list all installed pkgs) and output all that were not implicitly added by you. and or maybe output packages that are still installed after being a dependency to a package removed or purged |
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| 08:54.25 | dirkson | themill: How do you make it spew more than the default? |
| 08:54.40 | stranger_ | I searched aptitude for make but found nothing in the net install cd |
| 08:55.11 | stranger_ | I am in a closed circle awaiting for strangers to help |
| 08:55.11 | stranger_ | :-) |
| 08:55.17 | themill | dirkson: man synergyc; man synergys; synergyc -d DEBUG is usually more than enough (there's other levels in the man page) |
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| 08:57.27 | dirkson | themill: Zero unusual information from client OR server on -d DEBUG |
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| 08:58.37 | ecakar | Hi all,... how do i give a function as a paramter of another function, for example i want "apt-get remove (other function which returns the packages)" |
| 08:58.54 | dirkson | themill: Using debug2 also fails to print any error messages. However, it looks like the server is sending stuffs, but the client is dropping them. That's sort of useful info. |
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| 08:59.14 | erpo | ecakar: apt-get remove `echo packagename1 packagename2` |
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| 08:59.16 | themill | dirkson: didn't you say it was a period drop out not that it was failing all the time? |
| 08:59.22 | stranger__ | so Where to start? |
| 09:00.01 | ecakar | erpo: erpo thanks, it works |
| 09:00.09 | erpo | ecakar: np |
| 09:00.16 | wols_ | stranger__: at the beginning :P |
| 09:01.03 | wols_ | stranger__: what network chipset is it exactly? |
| 09:01.12 | stranger__ | sorry, wols_ , I am a stranger here, where exactly is the begining? :-) |
| 09:01.20 | dirkson | themill: Problem: I move mouse on server screen. All is normal. I move mouse to client screen. All is normal, all is normal, mouse pointer (and keyboard input) freeze. Wait 5 seconds. All mouse movement done in those five seconds populates, all keyboard information types. Everything is fine for 5 seconds. Freeze. Repeat. |
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| 09:03.50 | themill | dirkson: eww... I only see that sort of jerkiness when either (a) I have a shitty network connection (wireless dropping in/out sort with experimental iwlwifi drivers was a problem for a while) or (b) if the load on the server is massive (such as when it's running a big backup, transcoding, etc... the server is only a celery so you can't expect too much of it!) |
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| 09:03.55 | stranger__ | wols_, this is a link that is supposed to work out this: http://mail.linux.ie/pipermail/ilug/2008-February/096741.html the problem is I can not mak install as make seems not there |
| 09:04.47 | ecakar | *pricised |
| 09:04.53 | wols_ | !tell stranger__ about kmuto |
| 09:05.07 | wols_ | stranger__: your netinst lacks a compiler |
| 09:06.02 | dirkson | themill: Cat 6 cable, multiple cables tested. 100mbit/s connection, stress tested two ways, turns out fine. Server load zilcho. |
| 09:06.10 | stranger__ | wols_, I thought a compiler is an essential part of the netinst cd ! |
| 09:06.17 | wols_ | no |
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| 09:06.29 | wols_ | debian doesn't even install a compiler with the base system |
| 09:06.29 | dirkson | themill: It's driving me up a wall! :D All this started when I made the mistake of updating my perfectly functioning debian. |
| 09:06.34 | themill | dirkson: nfc then... :( |
| 09:06.35 | clusty | hey |
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| 09:06.43 | dirkson | themill: nfc? |
| 09:06.48 | wols_ | !nfc |
| 09:06.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, nfc is No Fucking Clue. National Football Conference |
| 09:06.49 | themill | dirkson: what did you update too/from? |
| 09:07.12 | dirkson | themill: Just packages. I finally heard about that ssh vulnerability, figured it was time to update everything |
| 09:07.13 | clusty | i am still having problems making the linux PCs advertise their hostname to the network |
| 09:07.21 | dirkson | wols_: Thanks |
| 09:07.30 | wols_ | clusty: DNS? |
| 09:07.45 | themill | dirkson: but old etch->etch or was it old lenny->lenny? or etch->lenny? |
| 09:07.56 | wols_ | dirkson: /etc/hostname won't advertise to the network |
| 09:08.02 | wols_ | clusty: ^^ |
| 09:08.08 | rodneyk | clusty, did you change your workgoup or domain in samba.conf |
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| 09:08.17 | wols_ | for the network it's only DNS which means you need to fix your DNS servers |
| 09:08.24 | clusty | wols_, I mean I want all computers that ask for dynamic IP's to also be accesible by hostname |
| 09:08.28 | dirkson | themill: Just current etch > current etch |
| 09:08.39 | clusty | rodneyk, screw samba :D |
| 09:08.44 | wols_ | clusty: over what protocol? |
| 09:09.00 | clusty | i want to be able to ping PC's by hostname |
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| 09:09.06 | dirkson | wols_: Is it supposed to, automatically? That'd be awesome. |
| 09:09.09 | wols_ | then it's DNS. fix your DNS server |
| 09:09.10 | clusty | i managed to do this ages ago |
| 09:09.17 | themill | dirkson: hmmm... that shouldn't do that at all; there were no recent updates to x or synergy |
| 09:09.34 | dirkson | themill: Huh. |
| 09:09.45 | clusty | wols_, how can DNS work with dynamic IPs? |
| 09:09.58 | dirkson | themill: I am flummoxed. Perhaps it's time to try a reformat? |
| 09:10.10 | wols_ | clusty: normally |
| 09:10.19 | themill | dirkson: no... that would be pretending you were using windoze. |
| 09:11.13 | clusty | wols_, i tried saying: send host-name "algorithmica"; |
| 09:11.13 | clusty | inside dhclient.conf |
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| 09:11.13 | dirkson | themill: Well, there's been quite a bit of work on the eeepc debian in the meantime, I've been thinking about doing it anyway, to get those. |
| 09:11.38 | wols_ | clusty: does it? |
| 09:11.39 | dirkson | themill: It is a bit of a pain, though, and I've got a handy gadget coming in the mail soon. |
| 09:11.45 | clusty | wols_, could you please get me started in the right direction with confing the DNS? |
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| 09:11.48 | clusty | wols_, nope |
| 09:11.50 | slxix | i'd only recommend a reformat if someone went and deleted /etc/* or something like that. |
| 09:11.56 | wols_ | #dns |
| 09:12.02 | wols_ | clusty: how do you know it doesn't? |
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| 09:12.34 | themill | dirkson: there's also x2x that you could investigate btw. |
| 09:12.48 | clusty | wols_, i pugged in some new PC and was not accesible by hostname :D |
| 09:13.10 | clusty | wols_, can it be this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=151820 ? |
| 09:13.12 | wols_ | clusty: that doesn't prove a thing |
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| 09:13.21 | dirkson | themill: It's just occurred to me that while I have only 3 pairs of pants remaining that do not have obvious holes, I have an eeepc in my lap, a 9600 GT in my main comp, and a kindle in the mail... Score one for priorities. |
| 09:13.30 | vadmeste | Hi |
| 09:13.36 | clusty | wols_, so how should I check then? |
| 09:13.54 | dirkson | themill: Installing |
| 09:13.57 | wols_ | clusty: by sniffing the traffic |
| 09:13.59 | slxix | dirkson: atleast you have more than 3 pairs of pants. :) |
| 09:14.13 | vadmeste | How to verify if a host in a LAN is connected directly to the NET without having physical access to the host |
| 09:14.16 | vadmeste | ? |
| 09:14.32 | clusty | vadmeste, tried pinging? |
| 09:14.37 | themill | dirkson: that is somehow disturbing... |
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| 09:15.01 | dirkson | slxix: Well, not really. I have three pairs of pants and ~5 crotchless outergarments. |
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| 09:15.19 | slxix | themill: that's how it's disturbing. ;) |
| 09:15.30 | dirkson | ^.^ |
| 09:16.04 | vadmeste | clusty, how for example ? |
| 09:16.20 | vadmeste | I tried with my own but it didn't succeed.. |
| 09:16.27 | themill | dirkson: tmi |
| 09:16.29 | slxix | refrains from continuing to go offtopic. |
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| 09:17.30 | vadmeste | and all that without having to add a gateway to the route table (using route commande) |
| 09:17.53 | wols_ | vadmeste: you are connected with ssh? |
| 09:18.07 | vadmeste | wols_, no |
| 09:18.09 | slxix | you don't need a gateway if you define each host you connect to individually. :) |
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| 09:18.22 | wols_ | vadmeste: so what do you know about the host then? |
| 09:18.43 | vadmeste | wols_, just its IP address |
| 09:18.49 | wols_ | which is? |
| 09:18.59 | wols_ | and what services run on this host? |
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| 09:19.49 | vadmeste | wols_, no |
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| 09:20.05 | wols_ | "no" doesn't answer my question |
| 09:21.25 | drax2gma | Hi ppl. How can I make sure that an .exe file started from samba logon.bat running without exclusive lock? Now the second logged in user cannot use the same .exe file from the samba share. Anyone? |
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| 09:24.11 | pozic | drax2gma: that's not a complete sentence. |
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| 09:24.45 | slxix | i would assume he meant "is running" |
| 09:25.01 | drax2gma | pozic: probably :) sorry, my english is sh** |
| 09:25.15 | drax2gma | yep, i meant "is running" |
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| 09:25.53 | clusty | ping <my machine> |
| 09:25.59 | clusty | by hostname or IP |
| 09:26.03 | pozic | drax2gma: I am not sure on what level that lock is working or why there would be such a lock to begin with. |
| 09:26.17 | clusty | vadmeste, ping <host> |
| 09:26.19 | slxix | drax2gma: you could run tcpdump/wireshark and look for clues? |
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| 09:26.37 | vadmeste_ | sorry |
| 09:26.39 | clusty | vadmeste_, ping <my machine> |
| 09:26.58 | pozic | drax2gma: so, where is the lock coming from? |
| 09:27.30 | drax2gma | sorry guys, I really cannot play with this, it's a production environment. |
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| 09:27.40 | drax2gma | But I'm sure the lock is from the samba |
| 09:27.51 | vadmeste_ | clusty, <my_machine> ? |
| 09:27.57 | vadmeste_ | you didn't understand me |
| 09:27.58 | Ast001 | I have tried to install Debian GNU/Linux rc3 on GA-EP35-DS3R motherboard and after install when I did reboot I've seen messages like hda lost interrupt (my both hard disks are sata-2 so I guess hda is dvd) which repeated themselves after few seconds and computer never boots until I reset it and then everything looks fine. |
| 09:28.07 | masus | hi all,anyone know how to assign a user to a new created group in debian etch. Thanks. |
| 09:28.28 | vadmeste_ | clusty, I wanna write a script that verify if a host in my LAN is connected > directly < to the net ? |
| 09:28.52 | clusty | vadmeste_, as in pingable from exterior? |
| 09:29.09 | Ast001 | dvd is pioneer I tried to disable it in bios and when i did it the same message show up again |
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| 09:29.16 | vadmeste_ | clusty, yes |
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| 09:29.33 | sysadmin-lb22 | hi all..is there a tool like tcpdump but for udp traffic ? |
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| 09:31.05 | slxix | tcpdump does udp. |
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| 09:31.40 | slxix | don't let the name fool you. :) |
| 09:31.44 | themill | drax2gma: is this file on a writable share? (that's probably not what you want...) |
| 09:32.15 | drax2gma | nope, the users just can r-x |
| 09:32.19 | slxix | ie. tcpdump udp dst port 53 |
| 09:33.18 | themill | drax2gma: then they also should not be able to get an exclusive lock, aiui. But I think you're going to get more help from #samba than you are from us here. |
| 09:33.45 | slxix | Ast001: when i put computers together, i used to troubleshoot by removing everything and adding things back peices by peice until i found what made things fail. |
| 09:34.01 | drax2gma | themill: okay, I'll try there. Anyway, thanks guys for the help |
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| 09:34.15 | themill | drax2gma: good luck with it. |
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| 09:34.55 | joako | hi, im sorry for the OT but anyone knows an active chat of java or a good forum? |
| 09:35.32 | rvsjoen | the #java channel ? |
| 09:35.41 | Ast001 | I tried 3 times to install Debian from netinst disk and after every attempt I get that message hda ... lost interupt ... |
| 09:35.42 | themill | joako: there are lots of java channels; /msg alis list *java* |
| 09:36.05 | Ast001 | I wonder is it indication that motherboard is not good or is it Debian problem ? |
| 09:36.32 | Ast001 | I have noticed that rc1 did not even recognize dvd |
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| 09:36.49 | themill | Ast001: rc1 of what? the lenny installer? |
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| 09:37.18 | Ast001 | I think its etch rc1 |
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| 09:37.59 | Ast001 | is said please put your floppy disk in and find driver for cdrom |
| 09:38.20 | themill | Ast001: an installer with a newer kernel might help you. /msg dpkg kmuto ; /msg dpkg etchnhalf |
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| 09:39.07 | Ast001 | /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 09:39.14 | themill | dpkg: tell Ast001 about kmuto |
| 09:39.32 | vadmeste_ | what does this command : "ping hop www.google.com" ? |
| 09:39.35 | Ast001 | ok thanks |
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| 09:40.43 | et | this may be a stupid question, but where in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=opencv can I *file* a bug? |
| 09:40.48 | vadmeste_ | it sends ICMP packet to the hop first ? |
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| 09:40.57 | wols_ | !tell et about reportbug |
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| 09:43.12 | vadmeste_ | Ok, let's me ask question with another words |
| 09:44.02 | hoxu | et, bugs.debian.org also contains loads of info |
| 09:44.04 | cb3rob2 | wow.. you almost got 2 words correct out of that whole line :P |
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| 09:44.11 | cb3rob2 | but still it computes :P |
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| 09:44.26 | gizlbizl | ^_^ |
| 09:44.26 | vadmeste_ | cb3rob2, I try |
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| 09:45.34 | vadmeste_ | I found a ROUTER that it's pingable from exterior and interior |
| 09:45.43 | vadmeste_ | I wanna use it |
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| 09:46.06 | vadmeste_ | I execute "route add default gw router_ip" |
| 09:46.08 | milligan_ | Does anyone here use ISPConfig ? |
| 09:46.18 | vadmeste_ | but it didn't work |
| 09:46.51 | vadmeste_ | that is normal ? |
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| 09:47.38 | vadmeste_ | I cannot ping google |
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| 09:47.57 | vadmeste_ | although I have a router that is connected directly to the NET |
| 09:48.09 | vadmeste_ | I can ping the router from my laptop |
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| 09:48.34 | petemc | vadmeste_: can you ping 66.249.91.99 ? |
| 09:48.35 | vadmeste_ | and the router is pingable from the NET |
| 09:48.41 | vadmeste_ | petemc, no |
| 09:49.15 | petemc | then either you got the gateway address wrong, or its not forwarding packets for you |
| 09:49.56 | vadmeste_ | petemc, how to verify if it doesn't forward packet ? |
| 09:50.12 | vadmeste_ | petemc, i cannot access to the route |
| 09:50.14 | petemc | vadmeste_: do other devices work that use it? |
| 09:50.26 | vadmeste_ | petemc, i don't know |
| 09:50.37 | petemc | well thats one way to find out |
| 09:50.51 | petemc | other ways would be dependant on what kind of device the router is |
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| 09:51.25 | vadmeste_ | petemc, i cannot know it work with other devices (there are no other devices) |
| 09:52.54 | becks`` | hi, how can i install the sch_netem kernel module using apt-get? |
| 09:53.39 | vadmeste_ | petemc, can I specify the route followed by a ping packet ? |
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| 09:54.55 | debianite | Hi all! :) |
| 09:55.09 | petemc | vadmeste_: i would concentrate on finding out whats wrong with the router rather than trying to think of silly ways around things |
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| 09:55.43 | slxix | vadmeste_: specifying the route will only work if every router along the way will cooperate. unlikely. |
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| 09:57.13 | vadmeste_ | slxix, I understand this, but I wanna test |
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| 09:57.21 | vadmeste_ | slxix, how to test it ? |
| 09:57.49 | vadmeste_ | how can I specify a route to the ping packet ? |
| 09:57.56 | petemc | you cant |
| 09:58.22 | vadmeste_ | I mean "Loose Source Routing" |
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| 09:59.31 | slxix | vadmeste_: i've never tried, so i don't know how. if it worked, i'd pack up and leave the internet. |
| 10:01.22 | vadmeste_ | i found an utiliy "sing" |
| 10:01.29 | vadmeste_ | !dpkg sing |
| 10:01.29 | dpkg | Heyyyyy, Macarena! |
| 10:02.00 | slxix | !wtf sing |
| 10:02.01 | dpkg | Gee... I don't know what sing means... |
| 10:02.32 | themill | !info sing |
| 10:02.43 | themill | dpkg, you're slow |
| 10:02.43 | dpkg | No, I'm not slow, I'm just overworked, underpaid, underappreciated and much maligned. Now STOP NAGGING ME!!!! |
| 10:03.14 | dpkg | sing: (A fully programmable ping replacement), section net, is optional. Version: 1.1-17 (sid), Packaged size: 46 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
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| 10:05.15 | aljosa | how can i remove broken package? i tried "dpkg --force-all -r db2exc" but it didn't work. package is ibm db2. |
| 10:06.37 | wols_ | aljosa: depends on the breakage |
| 10:06.51 | wols_ | but db2 is not debian. maybe ask whoever gave you that package |
| 10:07.10 | slxix | aljosa: i had a similar experience once before. i didn't properly install/configure the package, so it couldn't properly get rid of it.. |
| 10:07.25 | slxix | "the package" being a database package, not db2. :) |
| 10:08.10 | aljosa | wols_: package is deb, installed via apt-get |
| 10:08.23 | wols_ | it's not a deb by debian is it? |
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| 10:11.31 | aljosa | wols_: no, but i'm trying to find dpkg command to remove installed files so i guessed that #debian would be a good choice. is there some option to remove package even if post-removal script fails? |
| 10:12.05 | wols_ | aljosa: dpkg -l libc6 |tail -1 |
| 10:13.14 | aljosa | wols_: 2.7-10ubuntu3 |
| 10:13.35 | wols_ | aljosa: #ubuntu then |
| 10:14.09 | aljosa | wols_: sorry and thanks |
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| 10:15.32 | MacGyverNL | Can anyone remind me which script to edit if I want to run programs on gnome startup? |
| 10:15.52 | MacGyverNL | /home/usr/.xinit or something? |
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| 10:16.47 | erpo | MacGyverNL: Gnome menu->System->Preferences->Session. |
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| 10:18.39 | MacGyverNL | Found it, thanks. |
| 10:19.01 | erpo | np |
| 10:19.05 | cb3rob2 | arr. it |
| 10:19.07 | cb3rob2 | s |
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| 10:32.51 | et | are debian bugs moderated? |
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| 10:39.28 | ronr | hi, on one of my servers libgmp was using 200+ MB because of clamd, I restarted clamav-daemon and everything looks good now, any idea how I can prevent this from happening again? |
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| 10:45.07 | macoute | ronr: you are using debian volatile packages for clamav? |
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| 10:47.38 | liable | et: what do you mean? |
| 10:47.50 | ronr | macoute: I use the debian unstable clamav packages |
| 10:48.10 | Federico2 | hi there |
| 10:48.21 | liable | ronr: you should use volatile |
| 10:48.21 | macoute | ronr: they should be okay too. |
| 10:48.29 | macoute | liable: on unstable too? |
| 10:48.51 | macoute | my bugs with clamav stopped at the very second i moved to volatile |
| 10:48.55 | liable | macoute: no, but it shouldnt be an email server running unstable |
| 10:49.08 | ronr | macoute: I just noticed they're a bit outdated, I'll upgrade and hopefully it'll fix the issue |
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| 10:49.28 | liable | volatile can be a bit slow at times for clamav |
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| 10:50.25 | themill | clamav-freshclam... |
| 10:50.56 | liable | meaning? |
| 10:51.29 | themill | liable: isn't the speed of volatile is irrelevant to obtaining up-to-date signatures if you are using that method |
| 10:51.40 | et | liable: reportbug said i should have an answer usually within an hour, but that hasn't happened ;) |
| 10:51.56 | liable | themill: nah, it whines when the base package is out of date |
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| 10:52.06 | themill | liable: how out of date? |
| 10:52.09 | liable | et: you should get an automated response, yeah |
| 10:52.36 | liable | themill: as soon as the server that serves the signatures realises your clamav isnt the latest |
| 10:53.09 | themill | liable: engine not defs? Isn't the point of freshclam to update the def signatures? |
| 10:53.43 | liable | themill: dunno which bit exactly it is, but it whines about it 24 times a day |
| 10:54.02 | themill | liable: ugh... never seen that. |
| 10:54.02 | liable | dont make me look in my logs |
| 10:54.10 | liable | really? |
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| 10:56.40 | liable | WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED! |
| 10:56.40 | liable | WARNING: Local version: 0.93 Recommended version: 0.93.1 |
| 10:56.58 | themill | 0.93.1 is in volatile ... |
| 10:57.13 | liable | duh, that was before it hot volatile :P |
| 10:57.19 | liable | s/hot/hit/ |
| 10:57.27 | themill | liable: also, that's only a warning; the freshclam updates still work |
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| 10:58.57 | liable | themill: i didnt say it never worked, just that volatile lags behind. not long ago it took a month or more to get the latest version. there was some dependancies holding it up apparently |
| 11:00.01 | themill | liable: [11:49] <liable> volatile can be a bit slow at times for clamav <=== could be interpreted as you suggesting to *not* use volatile for clamav but to use sid instead, in the context of what was being said |
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| 11:00.26 | liable | erm, why dont you read the comment i actually said before that.... |
| 11:00.35 | themill | what read?!??!!1! |
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| 11:01.20 | liable | please dont preach to me about how my comments may be interpreted |
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| 11:22.15 | russianmafia | whatz can you provide? |
| 11:22.15 | russianmafia | HAHHAAHAHHA |
| 11:22.15 | russianmafia | TOTAL CHAOS |
| 11:22.15 | russianmafia | :!!!111 |
| 11:22.15 | fireba11 | net.split ^^ |
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| 11:22.18 | russianmafia | TOTAL ANRCHY |
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| 11:22.20 | russianmafia | FUCK THE INTERNET |
| 11:22.50 | russianmafia | AGAINST THE JEWS |
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| 11:24.28 | fireba11 | !ops russianmafia is begging to get banned |
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| 11:24.32 | themill | dpkg: wb |
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| 11:24.33 | fireba11 | haha |
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| 11:24.33 | pozic | Why doesn't this command find where JAVA_HOME is being set? find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -name '.*'|xargs grep JAVA_HOME |
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| 11:24.33 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: fireba11 complains about: russianmafia is begging to get banned |
| 11:24.33 | dpkg | thanks, themill. It's good to be back. |
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| 11:24.34 | wols_ | fireba11: it's just a netsplit |
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| 11:24.34 | pozic | Or, where is JAVA_HOME being set? |
| 11:24.34 | fireba11 | wols_: was loughing about the moring getting kicked by debhelper for flooding |
| 11:24.34 | themill | pozic: JAVA_HOME isn't usually set on debian |
| 11:24.35 | pozic | themill: hmm, maybe I set it system wise some time ago. |
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| 11:24.35 | pozic | themill: no idea where, though. |
| 11:24.35 | themill | pozic: no debian package should require it to be set. If you did that, look in /etc/environment and /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/profile.d/ |
| 11:24.36 | pozic | If I were to design an OS, I would include a way to answer queries like: where was this variable set last? |
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| 11:24.36 | pozic | themill: thanks, I found it. |
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| 11:24.46 | russianmafia | DCC SEND jewsdidwtclol91112345623 |
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| 11:24.47 | themill | russianmafia: stop doing that |
| 11:24.48 | russianmafia | ok |
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| 11:24.48 | russianmafia | my little brother |
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| 11:27.17 | hoxu | !ops MacM3dik was spamming and is still on freenode |
| 11:27.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: hoxu complains about: MacM3dik was spamming and is still on freenode |
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| 11:28.00 | ummjustmeagain | so anybody have an idea on the gnome icon problem? |
| 11:28.31 | ummjustmeagain | hello people, I'm building Gnomesword on a non-gnome distro, It works very well, I was just wondering does anybody know how to get the icons on the right hand side working in gnomesword? heres a picture of it. It shows bibletime and gnomesword http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=10346 |
| 11:28.40 | ummjustmeagain | repasted it |
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| 11:29.28 | themill | ummjustmeagain: is this really debian related? |
| 11:30.17 | ummjustmeagain | well I got the gnomesword from the debian package repository |
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| 11:30.30 | ummjustmeagain | so I guess so |
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| 11:30.49 | themill | ummjustmeagain: what do you mean by "on a non-gnome distro" then? |
| 11:31.02 | themill | ummjustmeagain: just that you're running debian but not using gnome? |
| 11:31.05 | ummjustmeagain | well I have better odds with 800 people here than at the #gnomesword with 5 people and nobody talks |
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| 11:31.47 | slxix | ummjustmeagain: i wouldn't be so sure. :) |
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| 11:33.05 | themill | ummjustmeagain: I'm guessing you need to install something like gnome-icon-theme (or whatever the current name is for that damned package). Also, exactly what linux distro are you running? |
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| 11:33.53 | ummjustmeagain | no I'm running puppy linux which can use debian and slackware, I have kde BibleTime working and Gnomesword working, around 80MB total in libraries and a lot of hours work to get it running on a non kde/gnome distro. And before you ask, no nobody has an idea on puppy how to do anything with gnome or kde since it isn't a part of it also |
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| 11:34.22 | themill | ummjustmeagain: well we don't any idea about puppy at all... |
| 11:34.24 | happy_squid | hello |
| 11:34.30 | happy_squid | what port does apt-get use? |
| 11:34.41 | hoxu | happy_squid, http of ftp |
| 11:34.42 | wols_ | it uses ftp and http |
| 11:34.50 | themill | (or ssh) |
| 11:35.02 | wols_ | ummjustmeagain:unless you run debian you are OT here. please ask elsewhere |
| 11:35.04 | happy_squid | ah, awesome |
| 11:35.06 | happy_squid | cheers |
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| 11:35.18 | kienerii_ | happy_squid, if ftp it uses port 21 |
| 11:35.21 | hoxu | happy_squid, also netstat -npt as root |
| 11:35.37 | hoxu | !ftp |
| 11:35.37 | dpkg | from memory, ftp is (File Transfer Protocol) This is a method of moving files from system to system using TCP/IP. There are three sane kinds of ftp: anonymous, encrypted and unprivileged (non-unix users). Unencrypted ftp using unix users will get your box pwn3d as fast as running windows on your firewall machine. ask me about <ftp must die> |
| 11:35.59 | hoxu | ftp uses two ports, 20 and 21 |
| 11:36.06 | happy_squid | then what could be wrong here..... |
| 11:36.07 | ummjustmeagain | ok now i have my debian powered up on my other pc and I was wondering how I could get gnomesword icons working on the right hand side,lol |
| 11:36.16 | happy_squid | my poor debian box can't reach the internet it seems. |
| 11:36.18 | et | !ftp must die |
| 11:36.18 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://wooledge.org/mywiki/FtpMustDie |
| 11:36.22 | happy_squid | hehe |
| 11:36.24 | wols_ | ummjustmeagain: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 11:36.24 | hoxu | happy_squid, what's the problem? And show us the sources.list |
| 11:36.42 | russianmafia | i like the 3rd. reich! |
| 11:36.48 | russianmafia | not! |
| 11:36.59 | themill | russianmafia: please be silent |
| 11:37.14 | russianmafia | okehy |
| 11:37.16 | wols_ | themill: don't encourage him. ops are the only answer |
| 11:37.26 | happy_squid | hoxu: well, I can't get apt-get update to run as it should. one sec and I'll put up the sources.list. |
| 11:37.35 | themill | ummjustmeagain: as I said earlier, probably something like gnome-icon-theme. |
| 11:38.06 | kienerii_ | happy_squid, did you try a normal ping to e.g. google.com? |
| 11:38.08 | happy_squid | hoxu: http://pastebin.com/d2837a009 |
| 11:38.11 | wols_ | as if he'd have a debian |
| 11:38.12 | cb3rob2 | they do have some points regarding that ftp must die thing |
| 11:38.12 | hoxu | !ops please ban *!*@i577AF8DB.versanet.de (russianmafia trolling / MacM3dik spamming) |
| 11:38.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: hoxu complains about: please ban *!*@i577AF8DB.versanet.de (russianmafia trolling / MacM3dik spamming) |
| 11:38.19 | ummjustmeagain | yes I tried the icon theme thing and nothing, Must be a program which runs the icons, Kde had 2 programs that did it, not the same on gnome |
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| 11:38.31 | russianmafia | MacM3dik? |
| 11:38.33 | wols_ | ummjustmeagain: what does the dpkg command say? |
| 11:38.41 | happy_squid | kienerii_: well, this box is on the same net, so it should be alright. |
| 11:38.50 | cb3rob2 | i guess this macm3dik has got his prepaid card by now hehe :P |
| 11:38.53 | wols_ | happy_squid: no "should". test |
| 11:39.01 | kienerii_ | happy_squid, did you try it or not? |
| 11:39.05 | ummjustmeagain | it doesn't work wols |
| 11:39.07 | cb3rob2 | (nothing a popup on any of our websites front page would not fix in seconds ;) |
| 11:39.18 | happy_squid | kienerii_: hold on, have to open up the firewall for pinging =) |
| 11:39.23 | russianmafia | this channel ist LOST |
| 11:39.25 | russianmafia | HAHAHAHAHAHAAH |
| 11:39.40 | ummjustmeagain | # dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 11:39.41 | ummjustmeagain | bash: dpkg: command not found |
| 11:39.42 | russianmafia | ANARCHY!!! |
| 11:39.49 | russianmafia | ummjustmeagain: YOUR MOMMA |
| 11:39.50 | cb3rob2 | licks russianmafia |
| 11:40.01 | wols_ | ummjustmeagain: you do not run debian. so please leave |
| 11:40.03 | cb3rob2 | russianmafia: why don't you go to #debian-offtopic |
| 11:40.21 | ummjustmeagain | ok wols take it easy, thanks |
| 11:40.25 | wols_ | cb3rob2: he's not a halfway normal troll but a crapflooder. he won't go away |
| 11:40.26 | ummjustmeagain | bye |
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| 11:40.41 | slxix | that ftp must die thing is a bit over the top. |
| 11:40.52 | russianmafia | i leave now |
| 11:40.53 | russianmafia | bye |
| 11:40.58 | russianmafia | :--**** |
| 11:40.59 | cb3rob2 | slxix: no it's not. it's actually a pretty good idea. |
| 11:41.10 | cb3rob2 | yet, someone still has to come upwith something better |
| 11:41.25 | cb3rob2 | one outgoing tcp stream with some block system for teh data of individual transfers within it |
| 11:41.29 | cb3rob2 | something like that. |
| 11:41.32 | kienerii_ | happy_squid, your sources.list seems to be okay |
| 11:41.37 | slxix | cb3rob2: I'm losing faith in the guy after point #4 |
| 11:41.46 | themill | slxix: it's pretty accurate, actually. Ever tried crossing two NATs with ftp? |
| 11:41.50 | happy_squid | kienerii_: cheers for looking mate :> |
| 11:42.07 | kienerii_ | happy_squid, so it should be your internet connection |
| 11:42.13 | cb3rob2 | slxix: thing is, it should just ALWAYS work |
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| 11:42.26 | cb3rob2 | themill: ever tried crossing two nats with ANYthing ? :P |
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| 11:42.34 | kienerii_ | happy_squid, the port for http (your port) is 80 |
| 11:42.35 | cb3rob2 | or does he mean two nats behind each other haha |
| 11:42.46 | wols_ | cb3rob2: with ssh it's pretty easy comparatively |
| 11:42.54 | kienerii_ | happy_squid, so you should forward this port to your box |
| 11:42.56 | themill | cb3rob2: yeah well... that's true too. |
| 11:43.12 | slxix | how do you cross two nat's with ssh? |
| 11:43.14 | kienerii_ | forward - open |
| 11:43.22 | cb3rob2 | ssh is bloatware full of remote-root-exploit-bugs and way to complex for anyone to fix, never mind the overhead due to the crappy not needed encryption |
| 11:43.26 | happy_squid | hmm...uh oh |
| 11:43.33 | happy_squid | acedev:~# ping www.dn.se |
| 11:43.33 | happy_squid | connect: Network is unreachable |
| 11:43.40 | kienerii_ | ;-) |
| 11:43.42 | rvsjoen | not needed encryption ? |
| 11:43.50 | cb3rob2 | and most deamons even insist on having crap like working reverse dns instead of just fucking doing their job |
| 11:43.51 | kienerii_ | happy_squid, check ifconfig |
| 11:43.58 | wols_ | cb3rob2: you are getting OT again |
| 11:44.04 | cb3rob2 | yes, not needed encryption |
| 11:44.16 | happy_squid | kienerii_: looks alright I guess, at least I think so. |
| 11:44.22 | happy_squid | and I've aset at default gw. |
| 11:44.31 | happy_squid | *and I've set a default gw. |
| 11:44.37 | cb3rob2 | it's not much use to encrypt stuff with an algorithm that everyone knows anyway AND the nsa and fbi can just decrypt within let's say 3 months without having the keys (or isntantly with the keys ;) |
| 11:44.40 | wols_ | happy_squid: ping your gateway then |
| 11:44.46 | cb3rob2 | kinda like defeats the object |
| 11:44.47 | wols_ | !tell cb3rob2 about OT |
| 11:45.03 | cb3rob2 | jajajaja :P |
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| 11:45.25 | cb3rob2 | + neither ftp, nor ssh can do multiple transfers in both directions over teh same tcp stream |
| 11:45.27 | dererk | so you believe in the "obscure to secure", great, you must join M$ team :) |
| 11:45.33 | cb3rob2 | which would be a desired feature in something new as well |
| 11:45.41 | slxix | wols_: can you cross two nat's with ssh without a third party relay? |
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| 11:45.54 | happy_squid | wols_: well, I can ping my gateway, no problem :> |
| 11:46.05 | rvsjoen | it still does a pretty good job keeping the kiddies out of the ssh conversations |
| 11:46.12 | wols_ | happy_squid: DNS working? |
| 11:46.22 | themill | points the discussion of ftp to #debian-offtopic |
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| 11:46.40 | happy_squid | wols_: thanks, I totally forgot. checking now. |
| 11:46.47 | cb3rob2 | dererk: let's just say that if we're gonna have open communication with otehr comptuer systems there is no need to encrypt it as everyone is allowed to know (we have no conrol over the remote network/server anyway) and as for our OWN communications IF they go over some radio link or other untrusted media we encrypt tehm with something we designed ourselves and the documentation stays in the safe. |
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| 11:47.38 | rvsjoen | so everyone should design their own encryption ? |
| 11:47.46 | wols_ | rvsjoen: stop it! |
| 11:48.17 | wols_ | cb3rob2 is a moronic troll. as history shows he nevre stops but I really hope you people aren's so low |
| 11:48.36 | crashanddie | then why not just get him out of here ? |
| 11:48.45 | wols_ | tell the ops. not us |
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| 11:49.01 | rvsjoen | i'll stop before I get carried away |
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| 11:51.42 | happy_squid | wols_, kienerii_, hoxu : thanks, now I've got it fixed :> |
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| 11:52.02 | hoxu | happy_squid, firewall problem? |
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| 11:52.42 | happy_squid | no, turned out that I'd set a bad netmask on the default gw =) |
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| 11:57.13 | happy_squid | so, correct me if I'm wrong here, but fixing the openssl vulnerability is as easy as apt-get install openssl, right? |
| 11:57.49 | abrotman | happy_squid: it's supposed to be .. but you'll need to check your keys anyways |
| 11:58.08 | happy_squid | right |
| 11:58.10 | happy_squid | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:58.48 | dererk | happy_squid, and libssl9.8 too |
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| 12:05.06 | hoxu | !ftp ports |
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| 12:05.06 | MacGyverNL | Is it possible to force a program to start on a different desktop (or whatever the 4 different screen representations are called)? |
| 12:05.07 | dpkg | somebody said ftp ports was the ftp server listens on tcp/21 for the control stream. The data stream uses a separate port. In active mode, the server connects back to the client using source tcp/20 as source port. In the passive mode, the client connects to a dynamic server port (56226) |
| 12:05.07 | happy_squid | dererk: cheers :> |
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| 12:05.08 | MacGyverNL | (Sorry, that was insufficient info: Gnome desktop manager) |
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| 12:07.52 | Standalf | hi |
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| 12:09.55 | Standalf | Is debian sortable if I wanna stable and variable system? |
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| 12:09.59 | abrotman | MacGyverNL: i believe it is if you use the gnome autostart stuff .. |
| 12:10.04 | abrotman | sortable? |
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| 12:10.45 | Standalf | I have ubuntu 8.04 and I'm disgusted, many bugs, unstable I cant repair it or learn how to repair from other people |
| 12:11.02 | Standalf | abrotman: sortable, desirable :) |
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| 12:11.24 | abrotman | Standalf: etch is stable, you may find some of the packages to be older .. Lenny is more up to date, but less stable |
| 12:11.26 | Standalf | or just good |
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| 12:12.18 | trn- | damnit. why apt-get dist-upgrade want to install a LOAD of packages WITHOUT upgrading anything? The summary is: 0 upgraded, 18 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. damnit! |
| 12:12.22 | Anarka | heys :) anyone knows how to add a windows entry to grub2 ? |
| 12:12.23 | Standalf | Aha, I wanna have it forever =) some stable system easy to update because I dont want to reinstall often |
| 12:12.35 | trn- | he wants to install the DAMNED hal at any cost on my machines |
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| 12:13.34 | Standalf | I thought about gentoo. Some people tell it's madness or for linux madmen and a few tell it's amasing |
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| 12:13.48 | \bin\tclsh | hello |
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| 12:13.58 | et | madness? |
| 12:14.13 | abrotman | Anarka: i believe the grub2 docs cover that |
| 12:14.14 | Standalf | *amasing - bug, I meant nice |
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| 12:14.42 | Standalf | et: yes madness for normal users |
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| 12:14.59 | Standalf | can you give me an advice? |
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| 12:15.07 | dw | hi there. i've just installed a linux-image-....-xen and ran update-grub, but it's not seeing the new xen image. any ideas? |
| 12:15.11 | LimCore | slaps dpkg developer around with a big octopus |
| 12:15.27 | \bin\tclsh | i have installed freenx from apt-get, i have successfully configured every thing to authorized keys and that part is working, but when I log in, and i see the desktop, i get a message: the connection with the remote server was shut down. Please check the state of your network connection. |
| 12:15.34 | LimCore | how to show info about package foo, without having it idiotically cut to column width like dpkg -l foo does |
| 12:15.40 | Standalf | Debian or Gentoo, I dont know... can anyone give me an advice? |
| 12:15.40 | \bin\tclsh | i read somwehere it is possible to missing some fonts |
| 12:15.51 | et | Standalf: correct answer would have been "THIS IS SPARTAAAA!" |
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| 12:16.08 | LimCore | Standalf: I would use gentoo if I have time. Or ubuntu if I need it to Just Work |
| 12:16.08 | Standalf | et: lol, sure XD gentoo is for spartans :D |
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| 12:16.28 | stew | LimCore: apt-cache show packagename ; dpkg -s packagename ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l packagename ; COLUMNS=200 aptitude show packagename |
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| 12:17.14 | Standalf | LimCore: I have to programming, I dont know how long time it would be took... gentoo or debian, basically set it up, i need some libraries and kdevelop |
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| 12:18.03 | LimCore | stew: apt-cache shows the installed one or the one cached from repo? or both? its confusing |
| 12:18.04 | Anarka | abrotman okis... ill look better at what ivwe installed :) |
| 12:18.07 | Standalf | sure I have time but after instalation if gentoo would take 1 day and then I could work / set up and such :) |
| 12:18.14 | Standalf | is it possible? |
| 12:18.25 | LimCore | Standalf: for development gentoo would be nicer |
| 12:18.28 | LimCore | imho |
| 12:18.53 | LimCore | Standalf: I use debian (ubuntu) for dev since I didnt had days to learn and install gentoo yet |
| 12:19.26 | cyzie | how do i rebuild the cache for apt ? |
| 12:19.30 | Standalf | LimCore: isn't it too hard to set up? I know about linux almost nothing, sure I can learn new things, I don't mind. but if I could set it up :D |
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| 12:19.56 | stew | LimCore: both |
| 12:20.03 | stew | cyzie: aptitude update or apt-get update |
| 12:20.22 | LimCore | Standalf: if you dont know linux well yet, I guess I would in your place start with Ubuntu (its debian + some extra stuff, more for desktop), and in time try gentoo |
| 12:20.48 | Standalf | LimCore: aha, I know gentoo is known for developers, I don't know just if I will be able to set it up for using in normal time :) cca2 days |
| 12:20.48 | cyzie | stew, i would liek to clean the existing apt file in my system and get a new update from the repo |
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| 12:21.08 | stew | cyzie: aptitude update or apt-get update |
| 12:21.14 | cyzie | ok |
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| 12:21.33 | Standalf | LimCore: I have ubuntu and I'm disgusted of 8.04 version, I don't wanna reinstall to 7.10 version :( |
| 12:21.33 | cyzie | for some reason when try to evolution, it is broken |
| 12:21.40 | stew | cyzie: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 12:21.53 | LimCore | Standalf: partition hard drive to make space for 2 systems (but share common /home) and install ubuntu (2 hours) and then start with gentoo. Remember to tell gentoo installer to 1) use same /home partition but dont OVERWRITE it |
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| 12:22.14 | LimCore | Standalf: whats wrong with 8.04 ? works nice for me. Tell me in #ubuntu-bugs |
| 12:23.15 | Standalf | LimCore: I can tell you bugs but internet is full of them. Ubuntu websites. I have windows too, so I could delete this ubuntu and install clean gentoo |
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| 12:23.34 | LimCore | Standalf: well ok then, try gentoo :) |
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| 12:23.40 | LimCore | have to try it too |
| 12:23.42 | \bin\tclsh | someone know about: i have installed freenx from apt-get, i have successfully configured every thing to authorized keys and that part is working, but when I log in, and i see the desktop, i get a message: the connection with the remote server was shut down. Please check the state of your network connection. |
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| 12:23.59 | Standalf | LimCore: you say try gentoo but I can just hope I wont be disgusted more :D |
| 12:24.07 | putnam | anyone have experience with pptpd/pppd? |
| 12:24.14 | valdyn | \bin\tclsh: does that client you are using have a keepalive option or something? |
| 12:24.16 | LimCore | Standalf: well... best, try it and see |
| 12:24.35 | Standalf | ok, ok :) thanks |
| 12:24.44 | \bin\tclsh | valdyn: let me check, its client for windows that i did not reconfigured anything |
| 12:25.05 | valdyn | \bin\tclsh: this sounds like a router issue |
| 12:25.14 | cyzie | stew, http://rafb.net/p/CYNkGI32.html |
| 12:25.19 | \bin\tclsh | ah, im logged via ssh |
| 12:25.29 | \bin\tclsh | i just reinstalled debian yesterday, it were working at the moment |
| 12:26.11 | valdyn | \bin\tclsh: is that ssh session closing down too? |
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| 12:26.26 | stew | cyzie: show us the output of "apt-cache policy evolution" |
| 12:26.27 | \bin\tclsh | no, im using irssi right now via ssh |
| 12:26.30 | \bin\tclsh | it is works |
| 12:26.45 | valdyn | \bin\tclsh: thats bad to compare it then, irssi has constant traffic |
| 12:26.59 | valdyn | \bin\tclsh: thats bad to compare it then, irssi has constantly traffic |
| 12:27.06 | cyzie | stew, why is that? |
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| 12:27.18 | \bin\tclsh | well, i think the message does not says what is the real error |
| 12:27.35 | \bin\tclsh | the server does not closes the connection |
| 12:27.35 | gamla_kossan | ok, so now that I've performed my 'apt-get install openssl', everything is cool? I haven't used any of my debian boxes to generate any keys.. |
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| 12:27.55 | stew | cyzie: why do I want to see "apt-cache policy evolution" ? becuase it would tell me what version you are installing, where you are installing it from, which would tell me where your sources.list is pointing |
| 12:27.56 | \bin\tclsh | reading in somewhere it says it is a missing font, or something like that, but i have downloaded the right fonts and it is still closing |
| 12:28.08 | \bin\tclsh | is there a log of nxserver? i did not found it |
| 12:28.44 | cyzie | 2.22.2-02 0 |
| 12:28.50 | Standalf | ok, see ya :) |
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| 12:29.45 | cyzie | stew, so is it possible to specify which in the apt-cache policy to install ? |
| 12:30.00 | stew | cyzie: is there some reason you don't want to show me the output of "apt-cache policy evolution"? |
| 12:30.39 | cyzie | ok, i will paste to you |
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| 12:31.59 | abrotman | stew: third time is a charm? :) |
| 12:32.32 | stew | i dunno |
| 12:32.52 | stew | cyzie: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 12:33.00 | stew | cyzie: and please stop flooding me in /msg |
| 12:33.02 | cyzie | stew, taht's the reason ;) |
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| 12:33.28 | cyzie | stew, so is it possible to specify which in the apt-cache policy to install ? |
| 12:33.40 | stew | cyzie: wrong channel |
| 12:33.52 | valdyn | cyzie: you can always use "apt-get install packagename=version" |
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| 12:34.10 | cyzie | thanks valdyn, im thinking install the old one and then do the upgrade |
| 12:34.12 | cyzie | update sorry |
| 12:34.33 | stew | cyzie: and you obviously know this is the wrong channel, for you tried to deceive me about what the actual situation is |
| 12:34.43 | cyzie | lol |
| 12:34.46 | cyzie | ok |
| 12:34.49 | cyzie | to the ubuntu then |
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| 12:35.26 | cyzie | valdyn, thanks for the nice tip |
| 12:35.28 | cyzie | appreciate yoru help |
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| 12:39.42 | G-- | at the internet setup of debian, you can choose several packages to install, including basic system, what does it install if I tick the box for basic system? |
| 12:40.06 | valdyn | G--: not much at all i think |
| 12:40.22 | valdyn | G--: certainly no X |
| 12:40.34 | G-- | no x? |
| 12:40.40 | valdyn | !X |
| 12:40.41 | cyzie | G--, install the basic only then do dpkg -l after it is done install, then u can see yourself. |
| 12:40.44 | valdyn | !x |
| 12:40.47 | valdyn | !Xorg |
| 12:40.51 | dpkg | it has been said that xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.3. Ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg (freenode), or ask about <drxx> to reconfigure. |
| 12:40.51 | valdyn | !test |
| 12:40.55 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 12:40.58 | valdyn | oh, are we slow today |
| 12:41.20 | G-- | so basic system is not required? |
| 12:41.34 | G-- | I want to start a web server |
| 12:41.43 | G-- | but I am wondering if I need that package |
| 12:41.54 | valdyn | G--: those are tasks, not packages |
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| 12:42.05 | valdyn | G--: they're for people who dont know exactly what they want |
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| 12:42.35 | cyzie | valdyn, hehe, deja vu |
| 12:42.42 | G-- | i see. |
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| 12:43.21 | neurodamage | this is a pretty bad ass distro in comparison, it's funny that so many distributions are based off of it :) |
| 12:43.30 | G-- | ok, i'll install that task then |
| 12:43.44 | putnam | man, VPN stuff is so incredibly difficult to configure |
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| 12:44.02 | putnam | it's too bad hamachi got acquired by logmein, that's pretty much the end of the only decent thing out there |
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| 12:44.42 | stew | putnam: what is wrong with openvpn? |
| 12:44.50 | putnam | stew: native client support on os x and windows |
| 12:44.53 | putnam | you have to install stuff |
| 12:45.08 | Anarka | abrotman sprry but can you point me to where debian has info on grub2 and windows ? i cant see it :/ |
| 12:45.08 | putnam | i'm trying to setup just something very simple where it just works on both os x and windows |
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| 12:45.32 | putnam | i had to give up on openswan because it was needlessly complicated. then i tried pptpd/poptop today and still can't quite get what i want. |
| 12:45.43 | stew | putnam: i have no idea which work with windows and osx out of the box, but i'd guess if any, it would be pptp |
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| 12:45.50 | putnam | yep, pptp looks like the winner. |
| 12:46.01 | putnam | openswan has pretty much no configuration where both windows and os x will work out of the box. |
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| 12:46.09 | putnam | ther eexists something close, but requires registry hacks on windows. |
| 12:46.26 | putnam | i guess there is apparently some security issues with pptp but really this is meant for lightweight stuff and i don't even care |
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| 12:46.42 | putnam | however i cannot seem to get pppd to behave properly on incoming connections and i'm ready to pull my hair out over it |
| 12:47.12 | abrotman | Anarka: google ? you can also use .. something like uhm .. grub2-scan .. i'd have to find it |
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| 12:48.10 | Anarka | yeah i have been in google just tough debian included the "option", but tnx ill try harder :) |
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| 12:48.22 | abrotman | Anarka: there's a program that will scan all of them |
| 12:49.15 | abrotman | Anarka: let me look |
| 12:49.27 | Anarka | thank you |
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| 12:49.56 | abrotman | !info os-prober lenny |
| 12:50.04 | Anarka | !info os-prober lenny |
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| 12:50.08 | abrotman | once is enough |
| 12:50.12 | Anarka | oops ;) |
| 12:50.21 | dpkg | os-prober: (utility to detect other OSes on a set of drives), section utils, is extra. Version: 1.26 (lenny), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 160 kB |
| 12:50.34 | abrotman | Anarka: you can try installing that .. it worked well on my laptop at home |
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| 12:52.06 | Anarka | just install it and grub2 detects win ? cool trying it |
| 12:52.08 | Sertse | I wonder which mirror is faster. My isp or my uni heh |
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| 12:52.11 | Anarka | abrotman tnx :) |
| 12:52.15 | TiMiDo | is there something like php-nuke but free? |
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| 12:53.19 | folke | TiMiDo: postnuke? |
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| 12:53.32 | valdyn | TiMiDo: apt-cache search cms ? |
| 12:53.41 | abrotman | Sertse: apt-spy |
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| 12:55.09 | Sertse | thanks. wow there's a command for everything :) |
| 12:55.34 | LimCore | make-me-dinner-women --now |
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| 12:56.15 | abrotman | LimCore: not funny |
| 12:56.23 | crashanddie | LimCore, I'm guessing you say that because you don't have one ? |
| 12:56.30 | slxix | LimCore: http://xkcd.com/149/ |
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| 12:58.14 | LimCore | abrotman: why are you so grumpy missed you meal? here, have a chilloutburger (==) |
| 12:58.15 | dustybin | i can print to my cups server from my desktop machine, when i try and do it from mac os x it crashes, why? |
| 12:58.15 | slxix | dustybin: what crashes? |
| 12:58.16 | LimCore | dustybin: for whatever reason/whatever crashes, it sounds like a candidate for bugreport, if none yet |
| 12:58.16 | dustybin | mac os x |
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| 12:58.22 | dustybin | my linux desktop works ok |
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| 13:01.51 | slxix | dustybin: that's tough.. what makes you think it's a debian problem? ;) |
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| 13:03.36 | stew | dustybin: what crashes? the cups server? or something on the mac? |
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| 13:05.20 | slxix | stew: he said 'mac os x'.. i don't know enough about cups to make it gentler on the poor mac. :) |
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| 13:06.03 | stew | slxix: yes, i read what he said. he said "it crashes" i dont' know if 'it' was mac osx or the cups server |
| 13:06.29 | slxix | that's the question i asked. |
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| 13:08.30 | stew | it was worded oddly then |
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| 13:15.33 | ankka | is there a simple way to move stuff from ./*/ to ./ ? |
| 13:15.51 | wols_ | use mc. it's easiest |
| 13:16.14 | ankka | wols_: really? how manually do I need to do it? |
| 13:16.26 | justin | ankka: mv */* . ? |
| 13:16.28 | valdyn | ankka: mv ./*/* ./ doesnt work for you ? |
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| 13:17.11 | themill | inserts a -i to make sure filenames don't clash |
| 13:18.16 | ankka | justin, valdyn: ohh, thanks, I'm really crazy today... mv and cp work differently with that command. Thanks! |
| 13:18.28 | justin | ankka: no they don't |
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| 13:19.08 | valdyn | ankka: only difference is when -R is needed / used and when its not, globbing works same |
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| 13:19.55 | ankka | oh, ok.. I've always had problems with cp because I haven't grabbed the logic. Maybe now I will |
| 13:20.15 | treb0r | anybody know how to rename an external usb hard drive in gnome? |
| 13:20.19 | valdyn | ankka: you can just mv a directory as long as you stay on the same filesystem |
| 13:20.20 | schmidt | ankka: mv does recursive move by default, cp does not :) |
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| 13:20.26 | valdyn | ankka: but you cannot just cp a directory |
| 13:20.42 | valdyn | schmidt: umm |
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| 13:21.14 | valdyn | schmidt: no its not recursive |
| 13:21.16 | ankka | valdyn: that's excactly my problem |
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| 13:22.06 | valdyn | schmidt: but the effect can be identical to recursion in the case where source and destination are on the same fs |
| 13:22.38 | valdyn | ankka: i dont know what you really need, but maybe cp -a does already what you want |
| 13:22.39 | schmidt | valdyn: otherwise it's a cp with new inodes and unlink ... |
| 13:23.02 | valdyn | schmidt: yea |
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| 13:24.52 | hg87 | hello |
| 13:25.30 | hg87 | is it possible to have severall apt sessions at once? like with portage under gentoo? or is apt restricted to one session? |
| 13:25.55 | valdyn | hg87: its restricted to one session |
| 13:26.02 | hg87 | valdyn, thanks |
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| 13:26.18 | valdyn | hg87: as far as package management is concerned, apt-get does not only do package management |
| 13:26.30 | valdyn | hg87: the program locking up stuff is dpkg, not apt |
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| 13:27.00 | valdyn | hg87: hmm, no, both are locking |
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| 13:27.07 | hg87 | valdyn: ah, okay. |
| 13:27.08 | valdyn | hg87: but still, not all apt-get actions cause a lock |
| 13:27.29 | valdyn | hg87: apt-get source <package> does not lock anything |
| 13:27.30 | abrotman | like apt-get source |
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| 13:27.40 | hg87 | i just wonderd if it would be possible, but if not its also okay. |
| 13:27.41 | abrotman | jinx you owe me a coke! |
| 13:27.49 | valdyn | hah |
| 13:28.20 | abrotman | hg87: however .. for downloading .. if you have two sources (with differing package sets) you can download from two at once |
| 13:28.28 | valdyn | hg87: gentoo allowing several instances has to be fugly at some point |
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| 13:29.28 | valdyn | hg87: like if 2 pull the same stuff partially, what happens? |
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| 13:29.45 | MacGyverNL | valdyn: I believe you can run emerge from two different terminals though... Not sure what would happen. |
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| 13:30.03 | valdyn | MacGyverNL: sounds like they just dont do locking cleanly then |
| 13:30.04 | hg87 | valdyn: gentoo locks at a point where two processes want to install the same for instance |
| 13:30.13 | valdyn | hg87: ah |
| 13:30.18 | hg87 | valdyn: the process which is first does the job, the second waits that time |
| 13:30.30 | valdyn | hg87: thats neat |
| 13:30.50 | MacGyverNL | What gets ugly is if the second installs an older version, would be my guess. |
| 13:31.03 | MacGyverNL | Not sure if emerge allows *that* though. |
| 13:31.08 | valdyn | not like id want to apt-get's thrashing my disks |
| 13:31.13 | valdyn | concurrently |
| 13:31.18 | valdyn | but uh, maybe it has its uses |
| 13:31.21 | hg87 | valdyn: and it works fine, no problems at all with several emerge instances at once, but just the cpu load is high when doing so. ;) |
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| 13:32.14 | abrotman | hg87: what if two things you're emerging are compiling the same depenedency but with different flags? |
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| 13:32.34 | hg87 | MacGyverNL: if you want to merge an "old" version of some packge you've to call that explicit, and normally the last available is installed. |
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| 13:32.55 | hg87 | abrotman: if you handle portage as expected, that shouldn't be able to become a real case. |
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| 13:33.14 | abrotman | okay then |
| 13:33.22 | hg87 | abrotman: you normally add all special use-flags and stuff into a file, and that once are used, and no others. |
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| 13:33.37 | abrotman | okay .. good enough .. enough OT :) |
| 13:33.39 | themill | prefers the idea of a lock that stops that from happening |
| 13:33.39 | hg87 | abrotman: but it could happen, if you don't know portage. |
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| 13:34.23 | hg87 | but i'm not here to learn or defend portage, i'm setting up a new muiltimedia system with debian, and that's why i'm here. ;) |
| 13:34.45 | hg87 | and maybe some questions to pinning and the apt way of handling packages. |
| 13:35.22 | themill | hg87: you probably don't really want to go anywhere near pinning. It's not normally needed. |
| 13:35.47 | valdyn | in the last 10 years all i ever pinned is wine |
| 13:35.56 | slickming | how to install pdo package on debian? |
| 13:35.57 | valdyn | because it regresses just as much as it improves |
| 13:36.03 | slickming | php _dpo |
| 13:36.08 | abrotman | slickming: which package, and why not just use apt-get ? |
| 13:36.09 | slickming | php-pdo |
| 13:36.10 | valdyn | ( or nearly ) |
| 13:36.11 | abrotman | or aptitude ? |
| 13:36.29 | slickming | abrotman: cannot seem to find the package with' apt-cache search' |
| 13:36.37 | abrotman | slickming: which version of debian ? |
| 13:36.45 | slickming | lastest stable |
| 13:36.50 | abrotman | etch ? |
| 13:36.50 | hg87 | the thing is i'm going to mix several deb sources, and i just want to have the right packages from the right places installed, i don't know how to handle that at best. |
| 13:36.52 | slickming | yes |
| 13:37.01 | valdyn | hg87: no, you dont mix |
| 13:37.11 | abrotman | slickming: there is no php5-pdo .. you sure that's the name ? |
| 13:37.13 | valdyn | hg87: theres well define ways to get your stuff, mixing is not the one |
| 13:37.29 | slickming | abrotman: sorry, nope. |
| 13:37.39 | abrotman | slickming: what are you trying to do with php ? |
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| 13:38.13 | slickming | abrotman: install PDO and mysql driver |
| 13:38.26 | abrotman | mysql is php5-mysql |
| 13:38.27 | hg87 | valdyn: do you have a link to some doku on that topic? |
| 13:38.34 | abrotman | slickming: what is PDO? |
| 13:38.36 | slickming | abrotman: for an app written in zend framework and use zend_db |
| 13:38.38 | themill | slickming: that's in php5-mysql |
| 13:38.50 | valdyn | hg87: it depends on the stuff you need |
| 13:38.51 | reZo | how does xrandr work, do i type the command and params into a terminal in x, and does it change the resolution etc on the fly? |
| 13:39.02 | valdyn | hg87: and the release of debian you are going to use |
| 13:39.17 | abrotman | reZo: try it an dsee |
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| 13:39.30 | themill | reZo: yes. Try it. man xrandr or just xrandr. Also see krandr etc. |
| 13:39.37 | valdyn | hg87: i can tell you a way to get it on a per package basis |
| 13:39.41 | hg87 | valdyn: i'll go to use lenny at first. i want to add 2 or more repositorys for different software stuff. |
| 13:39.51 | slickming | themill: thank you ! |
| 13:39.59 | valdyn | hg87: dont do that |
| 13:40.08 | hg87 | valdyn: lenny? or something else? |
| 13:40.12 | valdyn | hg87: at least not "blindly", repository is not a quality statement |
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| 13:40.21 | valdyn | hg87: lenny is ok, mixing isnt |
| 13:40.44 | hg87 | valdyn: yes, i know that, but how to handle some other repositorys then? |
| 13:40.47 | valdyn | hg87: lenny + debian-multimedia.org stuff is ok |
| 13:40.54 | themill | hg87: If you mean adding in debian-multimedia.org, then that's fine. Same with backports.org. But don't mix anything else in unless you want to screw yourself over. |
| 13:41.01 | valdyn | hg87: some repositories are just plain dangerous, some are ok |
| 13:41.09 | hg87 | valdyn: i want to use lenny and 64studio.com |
| 13:41.30 | hg87 | debian-multimedia maybe too. ;) |
| 13:41.44 | valdyn | hg87: 64studio.com has a repository? |
| 13:41.49 | hg87 | and for vdr the e-tobi repository |
| 13:41.52 | trumpen | in debian lenny, apt-get build-dep vlc fails with "E: Build-dependencies for vlc could not be satisfied.". Why? Should I install those packages manually? |
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| 13:41.53 | hg87 | valdyn: yes, it has |
| 13:42.24 | valdyn | hg87: if thats binary only software you dont have a choice but to pray they support lenny, i guess |
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| 13:43.01 | hg87 | valdyn: i think there is an src repro too |
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| 13:43.19 | valdyn | hg87: i see just iso images |
| 13:43.38 | abrotman | i thought everything in the studio64 was in debian now |
| 13:43.48 | abrotman | except the w32codecs i guess |
| 13:44.15 | valdyn | abrotman: what is it? |
| 13:44.23 | abrotman | !studio64 |
| 13:44.26 | abrotman | bah ... |
| 13:44.29 | abrotman | !64studio |
| 13:44.32 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 13:44.43 | abrotman | valdyn: it's a distro based on debian optimised for A/V stuff |
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| 13:44.44 | liable | !lose abrotman |
| 13:44.44 | dpkg | abrotman: You Lose. |
| 13:45.00 | valdyn | hg87: i wouldnt mix that into debian |
| 13:45.03 | liable | i thought it was a 60's nightclub |
| 13:45.07 | valdyn | hg87: its defenitely not supportable |
| 13:45.14 | hg87 | oh, it seems the have just etch support |
| 13:45.20 | hg87 | didn't read careful enaugh |
| 13:45.25 | valdyn | hg87: sounds like the software is available for debian elsewhere |
| 13:45.38 | valdyn | hg87: like debian-multimedia.org |
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| 13:46.14 | hg87 | valdyn: i've too look that up.... |
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| 13:46.55 | valdyn | jack and aeolus certainly are in debian |
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| 13:47.17 | valdyn | as is bristol |
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| 13:47.32 | abrotman | jack or jackd? .. well they're both in and have been for awhile |
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| 13:47.39 | zxxd | how can kill -0 pidnumber , return 0 , if there is no such pid showing in PS? |
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| 13:48.53 | justin | zxxd: it does? |
| 13:49.23 | hg87 | abrotman: jackd is in debian, but i can't find ardour for example |
| 13:49.44 | hg87 | rosegarden is the last version, i suppose |
| 13:49.58 | zxxd | justin: yes it returns true , and it dosen't even show in /proc |
| 13:50.01 | zxxd | where is this process |
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| 13:51.05 | abrotman | hg87: it's currently only in unstable .. and you can do a backport of taht (or wait for it to get to lenny which it should) |
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| 13:51.35 | abrotman | !why is ardour not in testing |
| 13:51.35 | dpkg | ardour is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=ardour |
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| 13:52.47 | hg87 | how is the "best" solution to add the unstable repository to just build backports to lenny? |
| 13:53.03 | abrotman | !tell hg87 about ssb |
| 13:53.03 | wols_ | only at the sources for sid |
| 13:53.15 | abrotman | hg87: we have ways of making it work! |
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| 13:53.36 | liable | <said with a german accent> |
| 13:53.48 | jelly | liable: vhat? |
| 13:54.06 | hg87 | is there some good documentation on backporting debian packages? |
| 13:54.10 | themill | liable: heh |
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| 13:54.15 | themill | dpkg: tell hg87 about ssb |
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| 13:55.02 | jelly | maybe someone should tell him about ssb, people. [15:53] <abrotman> !tell hg87 about ssb [15:54] <themill> dpkg: tell hg87 about ssb |
| 13:55.16 | themill | zxxd: bash's builtin kill or /bin/kill |
| 13:55.33 | hg87 | dpkg already talked to me ;) |
| 13:55.33 | dpkg | hg87: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 13:55.34 | hg87 | thanks |
| 13:56.13 | themill | jelly: yeah, well. Second time lucky, perhaps... |
| 13:56.37 | abrotman | hg87: i think you just got the documentation :) |
| 13:57.26 | themill | hg87: also /msg dpkg nmg |
| 13:58.23 | Leafwiz_ | Hi. I can't see the traffic with tcpdump on eth0 when it's directiing packets from 10.10.10.y to 10.10.10.1. It's all done on eth0. The card dosen't seem to go into promiscuous mode. |
| 13:58.44 | Leafwiz_ | eth0 has 10.10.10.2 |
| 13:58.46 | hg87 | themill: oh, yes that's what i want to look at. and maybe it's the reason why i use gentoo until now. ;) - not able to build suitable debian packages. |
| 13:58.46 | liable | try mii-tool |
| 13:59.12 | NoxIn | Leafwiz_: if you have a switch it's normal |
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| 14:00.09 | NoxIn | Leafwiz_: even in promiscuis mode, eth0 can't grab a paquet between 10.10.10.1 and 10.10.10.10 (for instance) as the switch won't send the paquet there |
| 14:00.41 | Leafwiz_ | Yes, but the server is acting as an gateway. |
| 14:01.08 | Leafwiz_ | All the hosts on the network has 10.2 as its gateway, and the server routes them to 10.1 |
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| 14:01.19 | NoxIn | ho ok ... then .. do you run tcpdump as root ? |
| 14:01.26 | NoxIn | do you allow ICMP redirects ? |
| 14:01.29 | Leafwiz_ | Yeah. |
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| 14:01.46 | waspius | hi.how do you run a cvs command? |
| 14:02.32 | NoxIn | like ... 10.10.10.10 send paquet to 10.10.10.2 .. 10.10.10.2 replys ICMP REDIRECT to 10.10.10.1, then 10.10.10.10 use 10.10.10.1 after that |
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| 14:02.39 | asg | waspius: man cvs |
| 14:02.41 | luxh | waspius: what you want to do? |
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| 14:03.25 | waspius | luxh: i want to enable drag and drop in amsn and the man i am following says i need to get some binaries through that command from some server |
| 14:03.37 | Leafwiz_ | No, I don't get redirected. I get an reply from the host i'm pinging |
| 14:03.51 | waspius | asg: no man for cvs |
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| 14:04.24 | asg | waspius: $ apropos cvs |
| 14:04.25 | asg | cvs (1) - Concurrent Versions System |
| 14:04.31 | asg | waspius: did you install the cvs package? |
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| 14:04.45 | waspius | luxh: asg i dont think so |
| 14:04.50 | waspius | i will try |
| 14:05.10 | themill | waspius: http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 14:05.53 | Leafwiz_ | NoxIn: I don't think it's like that. When I do a tracreroute from the client to the internet. I go through 10.2 |
| 14:06.01 | themill | waspius: if you have the option of choosing a version control system, then don't choose cvs though. |
| 14:06.25 | et | and neither svn |
| 14:06.38 | luxh | mercurial? |
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| 14:06.48 | waspius | themill: ok.. i will try and see what is out there..although everything i have found goes around cvs |
| 14:06.53 | et | for example, yes |
| 14:06.54 | justin | !wayttd Leafwiz_ |
| 14:06.55 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Leafwiz_? |
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| 14:08.01 | themill | waspius: If you have the option, then something like svn is much easier to get on top of. There are also nice frontends for svn like tortoisesvn for windoze and kdesvn for kde. There are others like mercurial, git etc, but they will take even more learning. |
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| 14:08.47 | Leafwiz_ | I'm trying to monitor the traffic from the clients to the router(10.1). From the GW (10.2) |
| 14:10.03 | Leafwiz_ | I did a new traceroute. And I don't hop through 10.2. So I probably get redirected? |
| 14:10.11 | NoxIn | Leafwiz_: can you do a tcpdump on one if the client and check the macadress of the destination host of the paquet ... to see if it's the 10.2 or if it goes directly to the 10.1 |
| 14:10.20 | justin | Leafwiz_: there is no such thing as a "redirect" |
| 14:10.22 | NoxIn | yes probably ... |
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| 14:10.43 | NoxIn | the first paquet use 10.2 and then you should get an ICMP message telling to use 10.1 |
| 14:10.51 | NoxIn | justin: ICMP REDIRECT |
| 14:11.06 | Leafwiz_ | mm.. That's probably it :) |
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| 14:12.52 | stiv2k | what is a powerful yet lightweight calendar app for GNOME/GTK ? |
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| 14:16.17 | peter86 | Hello guys |
| 14:16.46 | peter86 | I have question: why does my firefox is closing from time to time? |
| 14:17.02 | peter86 | for exampla, I enter youtube site and my ff is crashing |
| 14:17.19 | Unitux | flash glitch maybe |
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| 14:19.31 | abrotman | flash is junk :) |
| 14:19.40 | peter86 | hello abrotman ;) |
| 14:19.49 | peter86 | you guys have any ideas? |
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| 14:20.09 | zxxd | what is task in /proc/$PID/task ~? |
| 14:20.13 | abrotman | peter86: flash on linux is sometimes unstable |
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| 14:21.01 | peter86 | abrotman, you go and make it stable :) |
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| 14:21.37 | abrotman | peter86: complain to adobe.com |
| 14:21.48 | abrotman | peter86: alternately .. see how old your flash version is |
| 14:21.54 | ezguy | hi, when i start to compile/build i get this message: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incompleted |
| 14:22.01 | ezguy | any ideas? |
| 14:22.19 | valdyn | ezguy: ignore it if the build worked |
| 14:22.23 | peter86 | right now, lots websites are using flash, you cant complain about adobe when on windows the app is working? |
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| 14:22.39 | ezguy | how can i fix this? |
| 14:22.46 | valdyn | ezguy: or redo the build after running the autogen.sh or configure script again |
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| 14:23.13 | themill | peter86: you can if you are using flash for linux from adobe... |
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| 14:23.16 | ezguy | what could be causing this? |
| 14:23.29 | valdyn | ezguy: a file with an impossible date on it |
| 14:23.57 | valdyn | ezguy: i.e. a file with a mtime of later than now will not be rebuilt |
| 14:24.38 | stiv2k | what is a powerful yet lightweight calendar app for GNOME/GTK ? |
| 14:24.56 | valdyn | stiv2k: does not exist |
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| 14:25.18 | stiv2k | valdyn: oh really? why do you say this |
| 14:25.25 | stiv2k | valdyn: I mean there are apps like evolution... |
| 14:25.36 | valdyn | stiv2k: evolution is hardly lightweight |
| 14:25.40 | stiv2k | I know |
| 14:25.54 | stiv2k | there really arent any other alternatives??! |
| 14:25.55 | abrotman | peter86: i fail to see how flash on win32 is related to flash on linux |
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| 14:26.13 | abrotman | i think balsa has a calendar |
| 14:26.17 | peter86 | abrotman, and? was there something important? |
| 14:26.22 | stiv2k | balsa... |
| 14:26.28 | abrotman | peter86: you're the one complaining |
| 14:26.38 | peter86 | =] |
| 14:26.43 | valdyn | stiv2k: calendars are probably best done over the web |
| 14:26.49 | peter86 | but the truth is out there :) |
| 14:27.06 | valdyn | stiv2k: or that might be why no one built a serious linux calendar application that has not a web interface |
| 14:27.19 | stiv2k | valdyn: true, google calendar ftw |
| 14:27.46 | MacGyverNL | I'm trying to create a debian install package from a Sun java installer. The command "fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-<version>.bin" fails because it doesn't seem to be able to run gcc. |
| 14:28.05 | MacGyverNL | Do I need to permit access for normal users to gcc? |
| 14:28.11 | cb3rob2 | calendars are best done over telnet. one just types ' |
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| 14:28.16 | cb3rob2 | cal 2007 |
| 14:28.24 | cb3rob2 | no need for google |
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| 14:28.45 | themill | MacGyverNL: why not just use the sun-java6-jdk package? |
| 14:28.45 | valdyn | stiv2k: korganizer is one i found, i havent used it |
| 14:28.54 | themill | korganiser is good |
| 14:29.01 | MacGyverNL | themill: Uh... |
| 14:29.11 | valdyn | stiv2k: but deciding if thats light or not, thats up to you |
| 14:29.12 | MacGyverNL | Good point.. Is there such a package now? |
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| 14:29.18 | cb3rob2 | there has always been such packages |
| 14:29.20 | valdyn | stiv2k: i doubt it can suck more than evolution |
| 14:29.24 | cb3rob2 | sun-java5.* |
| 14:29.32 | themill | MacGyverNL: yes. It's in non-free for lenny/sid and on backports.org for etch. |
| 14:29.41 | MacGyverNL | I thought there were license issues? |
| 14:29.44 | cb3rob2 | everyting except for sun-java5-doc or something (one of them either -doc or -demo is bitching) |
| 14:29.44 | themill | cb3rob2: "always" |
| 14:29.50 | Leafwiz_ | NoxIn: 10.2 (gw) has now cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/send_redirects -> 0 . But it still redirects. |
| 14:29.50 | themill | MacGyverNL: hence it being in non-free |
| 14:29.53 | cb3rob2 | well. since sunjava5 |
| 14:29.55 | cb3rob2 | :P |
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| 14:30.44 | NoxIn | Leafwiz_: it still redirect even from a freshly rebooted client ? I mean... the redirection stay in memory for a while |
| 14:31.27 | Leafwiz_ | NoxIn: yeah, I thought I had to reboot. I will do a reboot then. |
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| 14:32.20 | NoxIn | Leafwiz_: in fact you don't have to ... just try to ping an ip adresse you didn't try before |
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| 14:32.37 | NoxIn | too late |
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| 14:33.56 | elitefor1e | is `sudo su - <user>` the wrong way of doing what I want to do? ;) |
| 14:33.57 | stiv2k | valdyn: heh |
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| 14:35.19 | getxsick | hi |
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| 14:35.59 | getxsick | i have a problem with building of package |
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| 14:36.18 | getxsick | normally when i run `make` it compiles ok |
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| 14:36.40 | getxsick | but with `dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot` it doesn't |
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| 14:37.34 | getxsick | http://rafb.net/p/dszrI831.html |
| 14:37.45 | E-bola | Do any programs exist that can ghost debian isntallation and take hw changes into consideration? |
| 14:38.04 | NoxIn | mondo-rescue ? |
| 14:38.05 | valdyn | E-bola: you dont need that |
| 14:38.25 | E-bola | valdyn: why not? |
| 14:38.27 | valdyn | E-bola: a debian system with a debian kernel will run on any supported hardware without special considration |
| 14:38.48 | hoxu | um |
| 14:38.53 | hoxu | really? :p |
| 14:38.54 | E-bola | valdyn: which modules that are loaded etc arent customized at installation? |
| 14:39.02 | valdyn | E-bola: nope |
| 14:39.03 | NoxIn | valdyn: except that if you dump your installation from a scsi disque and wan't to restore it on a sata for instance ... you have to take this change in consideration |
| 14:39.16 | E-bola | valdyn: neat :) So any partition/hdd copy tool should work? |
| 14:39.18 | valdyn | NoxIn: the boot manager? |
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| 14:39.30 | NoxIn | valdyn: the fstab need to be changed, the boot manager too |
| 14:39.31 | valdyn | E-bola: you probably want to use something like mondo |
| 14:39.42 | petemc | virtualize everything |
| 14:39.52 | valdyn | NoxIn: yea, that depends on various things |
| 14:39.53 | E-bola | googles mondo |
| 14:40.54 | valdyn | E-bola: the crucial stuff is done by just cloneing the disk data, like cat /dev/sda > /dev/sdb |
| 14:41.14 | valdyn | E-bola: the subtle stuff you can or even need to use a live disk for |
| 14:41.26 | valdyn | E-bola: like boot manager changes, /etc/fstab |
| 14:41.46 | E-bola | valdyn: wouldn mondo automate that? |
| 14:41.52 | valdyn | E-bola: no |
| 14:41.59 | valdyn | E-bola: at least i dont think so |
| 14:42.10 | E-bola | know of any utils that will take you through those steps as part of the cloning? |
| 14:42.11 | valdyn | E-bola: mondo is made for backup , not for cloning systems |
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| 14:42.27 | valdyn | !clone debian |
| 14:42.32 | valdyn | !debian clone |
| 14:42.32 | dpkg | One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want. Run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". you may want to ask me about <aptitude clone> |
| 14:42.56 | NoxIn | mondo don't automatisate it, but it's interface will ask you questions about the filesystem and is able to change the fstab (I tried this just once and it worked, but I won't say it was "automatique") |
| 14:43.18 | cb3rob2 | just shuv a clean disk into an empty slot and go 'dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc bs=4096 (in runlevel1 with / mounted ro) |
| 14:43.30 | cb3rob2 | tadaa. cloned. |
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| 14:44.12 | E-bola | NoxIn thats precisely what i meant |
| 14:44.25 | E-bola | besides fstab/grub stuff im not sure what else you would need to adjust? |
| 14:44.30 | petemc | would want a bigger byte size unless you want to wait all day |
| 14:44.38 | NoxIn | nothing else should need to be adjusted |
| 14:44.42 | cb3rob2 | petemc: that depends on the bytes per inode |
| 14:44.50 | E-bola | Ok ile install mondo now and test it |
| 14:44.51 | petemc | cb3rob2: no, it depends on the cache size of the disks |
| 14:45.07 | E-bola | is trying to make it a bit faster when he deploy Asterisk installations for new costumers |
| 14:45.20 | valdyn | or you could just let the linux kernel handle caching and use cat, and not care about insignificant micro optimisation |
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| 14:45.32 | petemc | its not insignificant |
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| 14:45.49 | petemc | its the difference between hours and days |
| 14:45.55 | hellues | how can i set my wireless network with static ip address |
| 14:46.03 | cb3rob2 | since when does cat not stop after receiving and end of file char. |
| 14:46.14 | abrotman | hellues: man 5 interfaces .. same as a wired connection |
| 14:46.17 | valdyn | petemc: if you use few byte sized blocks, sure, we'Re not even talking about that |
| 14:46.33 | hellues | man 5 interface oki check it out |
| 14:46.39 | E-bola | hmm this looks kind of weird? I went to aptitude to isntall mondo, and it auto selects an amd64 kernel as a dependancy? |
| 14:46.51 | abrotman | E-bola: maybe your kernel is out of date? |
| 14:47.05 | E-bola | abrotman: i just updated it to newest 686.... |
| 14:47.08 | E-bola | ile try to investigate a bit |
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| 14:48.11 | E-bola | hmm weird mus have been an error |
| 14:48.23 | E-bola | nope it does it again :( |
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| 14:48.43 | E-bola | it says its cuz the mindi package recomends it.... |
| 14:48.55 | E-bola | is that normal behavior, to install packages that are only recomended? |
| 14:49.13 | valdyn | E-bola: you can fix this by using a kernel of your choice |
| 14:49.25 | NoxIn | E-bola: since lenny ... yes ... in etch no |
| 14:49.29 | SerajewelKS | E-bola: it seems to be a bug in the mindi dependencies |
| 14:49.30 | valdyn | E-bola: like aptitude install mindi linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 14:49.36 | NoxIn | (with apt-get , but with aptitude, yes ) |
| 14:49.39 | SerajewelKS | E-bola: it is missing a dependency on the -686 metapackage |
| 14:49.46 | valdyn | E-bola: the recommends are alternatives , if you look at them |
| 14:49.46 | E-bola | ahh so its a known bug? |
| 14:49.54 | valdyn | uh |
| 14:49.55 | valdyn | that i didnt look at |
| 14:50.03 | SerajewelKS | E-bola: known to you and me, yes |
| 14:50.13 | NoxIn | it's not a bug, it's a feature |
| 14:50.17 | E-bola | :) |
| 14:50.19 | NoxIn | (sorry) |
| 14:50.41 | valdyn | E-bola: maybe thats intentional to increase compatibility |
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| 14:50.59 | E-bola | well i dont like install a kernel im not gonna use |
| 14:50.59 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: seems more like somebody forgot a dependency |
| 14:51.05 | E-bola | especially a wrong architecture |
| 14:51.12 | valdyn | no |
| 14:51.15 | SerajewelKS | E-bola: so don't install it |
| 14:51.41 | E-bola | wonders how many of the other auto select packages he does not need hehe |
| 14:51.43 | MacGyverNL | Hmm. |
| 14:51.52 | valdyn | E-bola: the recommends list contains alternatives, you can pick one like kernel-image-2.6-386,or use -R i think to ignore it |
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| 14:52.30 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: it seems odd to me to recommend -486 and -386 as well as several other arches without recommending -686 too |
| 14:52.30 | hellues | how can i restart network |
| 14:52.34 | MacGyverNL | I'm getting a "No public key" error after adding the backports.org apt line into synaptic. Though I think I understand why after reading dpkg no public key, I as yet fail to grasp how to solve it. |
| 14:52.35 | valdyn | hmm, the list is still fucked no matter what |
| 14:52.36 | E-bola | the problem is the recomended lists is missing 2.6 686 |
| 14:52.41 | SerajewelKS | hellues: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 14:52.46 | valdyn | seeing theres STILL _kernel_ -image* |
| 14:52.47 | hoxu | MacGyverNL, read the bpo instructions |
| 14:53.08 | MacGyverNL | I did. I think? |
| 14:53.14 | MacGyverNL | checks. |
| 14:53.16 | hoxu | MacGyverNL, http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
| 14:53.21 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: no idea why a package is recommending kernels anyway, presumably you already have one... |
| 14:53.34 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: it needs a debian kernel |
| 14:53.39 | MacGyverNL | D'oh. It's cut off neatly, hadn't noticed there was more text. |
| 14:53.40 | MacGyverNL | Sorry. |
| 14:53.47 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: or a special kernel, random self compiled kernels wont work |
| 14:53.49 | hoxu | :) |
| 14:54.33 | hellues | !paste |
| 14:54.34 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 14:54.35 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: if it needs one it wouldn't be recommending one |
| 14:54.39 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: it would be depending on one |
| 14:54.43 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: no |
| 14:54.48 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: and either way i'd think linux-image-2.6 would work fine |
| 14:55.04 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: you are free to fix this yourself by running a fitting custom kernel |
| 14:55.17 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: yea |
| 14:55.45 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: you are also free to satisfy other package library dependencies yourself |
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| 14:55.54 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: that doesn't mean that every library dependency is a "recommends" |
| 14:55.56 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: thats something else really |
| 14:56.11 | SerajewelKS | not in the strictest sense, no |
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| 14:56.17 | SerajewelKS | you need X to run, you depend on X |
| 14:56.26 | SerajewelKS | "recommends" is for "will enhance the function of" |
| 14:56.26 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: yes, not in the strictest sense but |
| 14:56.32 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: yea |
| 14:56.41 | hellues | http://paste.debian.net/7345/ i do "restart network" after i do dhclient but tis is not working why |
| 14:56.42 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: thats right. |
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| 14:57.00 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: mindi will work fine without a fitting kernel |
| 14:57.11 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: but features that many users will need wont work |
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| 14:57.30 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: ah, that's not what you said though :) |
| 14:57.31 | abrotman | hellues: didn't you just ask how to make it static ? |
| 14:57.36 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: true |
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| 14:57.39 | SerajewelKS | actually "suggests" is "will enhance the function of" |
| 14:57.51 | SerajewelKS | "recommends" is "will be missing significant functionality without" |
| 14:57.52 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: recommends is good for this |
| 14:57.53 | flami | Hi, Im trying konqueror as webbroser, but when it comes to websites with no style information it renders the site with a dark background ( due to my color scheme ) and black text. is there a way to correct that ? |
| 14:57.53 | abrotman | hellues: what is "eth0-home" ? |
| 14:57.55 | SerajewelKS | which does make sense |
| 14:58.06 | SerajewelKS | still the package list is fuxx0red |
| 14:58.10 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: because people who dont read the docs are best off using a debian kernel for mondo |
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| 14:58.30 | E-bola | And i am, the one im using just isnt on the list of recomends... |
| 14:58.32 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: yea |
| 14:58.36 | hellues | eheh i am careless i delete home |
| 14:58.39 | MacGyverNL | hoxu: Working now, thanks. |
| 14:58.44 | valdyn | E-bola: just disable pulling recommends |
| 14:58.47 | ghatak | I am trying to setup serial redirection on one of my servers. The output shows up in telnet session after grub, it shows till it is detecting devices, however after that the serial output hangs, I got my inittab enabled correctly and and kernel line is correct too. Can someone suggest anything ? |
| 14:58.59 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: good god, this isn't even fixed on unstable |
| 14:59.02 | hellues | is it ok abrotman |
| 14:59.05 | E-bola | valdyn: Yep i will, i just wanted to under stand what was wrong. |
| 14:59.06 | SerajewelKS | shame |
| 14:59.09 | E-bola | Thank you both for clearing it up |
| 14:59.12 | hoxu | hellues, eth0-xxx is for when you use mapping, you normally use just eth0 |
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| 14:59.53 | hellues | yeah i uıse eth0 |
| 15:00.38 | hoxu | hellues, you want to use dhcp and static IP? |
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| 15:00.47 | hellues | http://paste.debian.net/7346/ thats ok now ? |
| 15:00.59 | hellues | i wonna use static ip |
| 15:01.08 | NoxIn | hellues: "netmask 208.67.220.220" <-- that is not correct |
| 15:01.25 | hellues | hmm |
| 15:01.26 | NoxIn | and remove the comment befor "auto eth0" |
| 15:01.26 | cb3rob2 | not really no :P |
| 15:01.48 | SerajewelKS | hellues: uhm wtf, those are OpenDNS addresses |
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| 15:01.53 | SerajewelKS | hellues: are you opendns.net? |
| 15:01.59 | hellues | i command out auto eth0 |
| 15:02.01 | NoxIn | and you probably should have a line like "gateway 208.67.220.1" for instance |
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| 15:02.18 | SerajewelKS | hellues: did you accidentally paste DNS server addresses there or what? |
| 15:02.25 | abrotman | yay free dns! |
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| 15:02.38 | hellues | free dns my friend said to me |
| 15:02.41 | cb3rob2 | oh dear. free dns.. |
| 15:02.46 | hoxu | uh |
| 15:03.05 | hoxu | hellues, do you know what dhcp is? Or static IP? |
| 15:03.22 | hoxu | hellues, if you don't, you probably want to use dhcp |
| 15:03.23 | SerajewelKS | hellues: don't take this the wrong way but do you know the difference between DHCP, DNS, and IP? |
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| 15:03.39 | hellues | actually i dont know i just use that |
| 15:03.39 | hellues | :d |
| 15:03.39 | SerajewelKS | hellues: and that they are not all an interchangeable glob? |
| 15:03.54 | SerajewelKS | hellues: you are lucky your system actually works with that configuration |
| 15:04.14 | SerajewelKS | hellues: if you don't know and "just use that" then you want dhcp configuration |
| 15:04.33 | hellues | yeah i know but i am from Turkey some web site is banned for example youtube |
| 15:04.47 | hellues | because of that i wonna use static ip that works |
| 15:04.47 | SerajewelKS | hellues: wtf difference does that make |
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| 15:04.58 | SerajewelKS | hellues: no, that's not how routing works. |
| 15:05.09 | SerajewelKS | hellues: use tor or something |
| 15:05.11 | hoxu | hellues, interfaces is for configuring your network address, not DNS servers |
| 15:05.12 | cb3rob2 | if it's dns 'banned' just use 84.22.96.10/84.22.97.10 as dns servers, in all other cases, we can provide you with some tunnel solution, at a price. |
| 15:05.13 | cb3rob2 | :P |
| 15:05.21 | hoxu | !lart cb3rob2 |
| 15:05.21 | dpkg | gives cb3rob2 a good seeing to |
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| 15:05.45 | SerajewelKS | hellues: dicking with your IP is not going to help you and has a higher chance of "blocking" all of your access than helping you |
| 15:05.59 | E-bola | SerajewelKS / valdyn: Do you know if mindi REALLY requires mdadm? |
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| 15:06.26 | hellues | hmm |
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| 15:06.52 | cb3rob2 | so which idiot came up with the 'use tor' thing for youtube :P |
| 15:06.56 | NoxIn | hellues : you can't put any IP adresse you wan't |
| 15:07.03 | cb3rob2 | any idea how much bandwidth youtube takes? :P |
| 15:07.03 | hoxu | hellues, use dhcp, and in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf add "supersede domain-name-servers IP1 IP2;" |
| 15:07.09 | cb3rob2 | that really won't go over tor. |
| 15:07.11 | NoxIn | so if your provider is banned ... putting a static IP won't change anythging |
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| 15:07.18 | SerajewelKS | cb3rob2: yes it will |
| 15:07.30 | hoxu | hellues, where those IPs are the opendns DNS IPs |
| 15:07.32 | SerajewelKS | cb3rob2: it won't be zippy but it will work |
| 15:07.34 | hoxu | -DNS |
| 15:07.46 | hoxu | SerajewelKS, that was a bad suggestion, admit it |
| 15:07.51 | cb3rob2 | serajewelks: last time we tried it it had uh.. severe bandwidth problems :P |
| 15:07.58 | hellues | i dont know |
| 15:08.10 | SerajewelKS | hoxu: have you used tor before to do large transfers? |
| 15:08.15 | hoxu | hellues, if you don't know, then don't mess with the DNS |
| 15:08.18 | \amethyst | hellues: do you have a machine outside Turkey you can ssh to? |
| 15:08.42 | hellues | no |
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| 15:08.55 | hellues | \amethyst, no i dont have |
| 15:09.05 | SerajewelKS | hoxu: i actually do run an exit node, so whatever |
| 15:09.14 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: we all do |
| 15:09.16 | abrotman | runs |
| 15:09.24 | \amethyst | hellues: unfortunate; if you did you could (with the admin's help) set up a VPN tunnel through ssh |
| 15:09.25 | cb3rob2 | hellues: we'll gladly ship you a vpn router that'll solve that for you, and will even give you google in english/dutch or german (you get to choose upon ordering :P) for a mere 1200/month |
| 15:09.31 | kringalf | why not use http://proxy.org/? |
| 15:09.32 | abrotman | cb3rob2: stop |
| 15:09.45 | kringalf | if its only for youtube that should work |
| 15:09.52 | cb3rob2 | abrotman: why? am i breaking some law again? :P |
| 15:09.55 | cb3rob2 | oh dear. |
| 15:09.56 | hoxu | runs a mill |
| 15:10.11 | hoxu | *themill |
| 15:10.52 | themill | grinds up hoxu |
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| 15:19.51 | clif4d | Hi, is there a way to patch modules before building them with module-assistant, or should I just use make-kpkg? |
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| 15:20.48 | twobitwork | man... I installed ubuntu on my laptop last night to just see what all the fuss is about... and it's no better then debian... |
| 15:21.04 | twobitwork | in fact, it was fairly flakey |
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| 15:21.43 | PinkFreud | heya folks. |
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| 15:21.52 | PinkFreud | I have a bit of a head-scratcher here. |
| 15:22.14 | PinkFreud | According to section 4.4.3 in the installation manual: The installer will look for a Debian ISO image on the stick as its source for additional data needed for the installation. So your next step is to copy a Debian ISO image (businesscard, netinst or even a full CD image) onto your stick (be sure to select one that fits). The file name of the image must end in .iso. |
| 15:22.20 | abrotman | PinkFreud: they make shampoo for that |
| 15:22.51 | ronr | I'm looking for a package that will take some numbers (perhaps from a file), labels and a type (eg pie or histogram) and input and gives me some image (ie png) with that data plotted, anyone has a recommendation? |
| 15:22.55 | PinkFreud | abrotman: really? There's a shampoo which will fix the debian installer? Cool! |
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| 15:23.16 | abrotman | ronr: gnumeric or gplot ? |
| 15:23.30 | vsd | what is the environmental variable that affects interactivity |
| 15:23.34 | vsd | DEBIAN_ENVIRONMENT? |
| 15:23.37 | PinkFreud | in any case, the docs seem to indicate that when booting from flash drive, the installer will specifically look for an iso on it and use that for the cd image. |
| 15:23.44 | ronr | abrotman: gnumeric is an X app right? I'll check gplot though |
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| 15:23.55 | abrotman | ronr: erm .. sorry .. gnuplot |
| 15:23.59 | PinkFreud | I've copied the netboot iso to said flash drive, and while I can boot into the installer, it simply fails to find the iso and mount it. |
| 15:24.00 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 15:24.00 | dpkg | i heard usb install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: Details in the Installation Guide http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/ch04s04.html.en , see "usb stick" section http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. (Older, outdated articles http://d-i.pascal.at/ and http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian) |
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| 15:24.17 | rahul | ronr: gnuplot or R are what I use typically |
| 15:24.26 | PinkFreud | abrotman: What I pasted above is from http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en |
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| 15:24.33 | rahul | ronr: neither can do pie charts, since they're serious applications |
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| 15:24.49 | PinkFreud | So, what does one do when the installer fails to do what the install doc says it'll do? :) |
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| 15:25.05 | themill | ronr: I use PyX for that. There's quite a thread on the debian-science mailing list about plotting programs. |
| 15:25.10 | rahul | PinkFreud: check the capitalization of the filename, maybe |
| 15:25.12 | ronr | rahul: I can live without those... many people like them though; a well, they'll live |
| 15:25.20 | rahul | ronr: good man :) |
| 15:25.45 | abrotman | PinkFreud: i was giving you other reference material |
| 15:25.49 | ronr | rahul: where can I find info on R (it's kinda a shitty term to search for) |
| 15:25.49 | themill | ronr: http://lists.debian.org/debian-science/2005/10/msg00053.html |
| 15:26.00 | PinkFreud | rahul: A. It's a vfat fs, which is case-insensitive. B. I didn't actually specify which iso to load - the docs seem to indicate it'll do this automatically. |
| 15:26.02 | rahul | teach them to not need goofy visuals... a bar chart is more visually meaningful anyway |
| 15:26.21 | rahul | PinkFreud: wrong. that's what "v" means. |
| 15:26.21 | themill | ronr: http://www.r-project.org/ |
| 15:26.23 | ronr | themill: thx |
| 15:26.32 | PinkFreud | abrotman: so, where's the magical shampoo to fix the debian installer? |
| 15:26.34 | PinkFreud | :) |
| 15:26.49 | ronr | nice, thanks guys, this'll get me going |
| 15:26.52 | rahul | ronr: r-base is the debian package |
| 15:27.24 | vsd | anyone? |
| 15:27.34 | rahul | ronr: R is actually a reimplementation of a really powerful statistics programming language |
| 15:27.36 | PinkFreud | rahul: no, I do believe I'm right. While filenames can be stored with upper- and lowercase letters, the fs is still case insensitive :) |
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| 15:27.51 | rahul | PinkFreud: ah, but you're using unix, which is case sensitive |
| 15:28.11 | PinkFreud | rahul: and it's a moot point anyway, as, if you'll read above, I didn't specify an iso filename anywhere. |
| 15:28.18 | rahul | PinkFreud: unix doesn't care what the rules of the filesystem are. it does whatever it would do, regardless. |
| 15:28.27 | rahul | PinkFreud: huh? the file has no name? |
| 15:28.33 | PinkFreud | The docs don't list a place to tell the installer what the filename of the iso is. |
| 15:28.44 | rahul | PinkFreud: I said the capitalization, not the name itself |
| 15:28.50 | simonrvn | vsd: interactivity for what? |
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| 15:28.52 | PinkFreud | In fact, the docs, if you read them, indicate that it'll figure out what iso to use automatically. |
| 15:29.11 | simonrvn | and it does |
| 15:29.15 | PinkFreud | rahul: Now, what would that matter, if the installer is going to figure out the iso name automatically? |
| 15:29.16 | vsd | simonrvn, so that i can do aptitude install postfix and not presented with ncurses meny |
| 15:29.20 | vsd | menu* |
| 15:29.33 | simonrvn | what? |
| 15:29.41 | PinkFreud | rahul: Kindly read what I said above. Thanks. |
| 15:29.41 | rahul | PinkFreud: I'm going to stop helping you before I get silenced... |
| 15:30.00 | vsd | when you do aptitude install postfix you are presented with ncurses menu to do some basic config |
| 15:30.03 | vsd | i don't want that |
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| 15:30.15 | rahul | vsd: read up on debconf docs |
| 15:30.25 | simonrvn | that's debconf. dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
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| 15:30.34 | rahul | vsd: you can set the priority and even pre-seed the answers |
| 15:30.47 | vsd | but dpkg-reconfigure will still bring up an ncurses menu |
| 15:30.53 | vsd | i want to do it from a script |
| 15:30.58 | vsd | i don't want ncurses |
| 15:31.16 | simonrvn | this is why rahul said read the debconf docs |
| 15:31.17 | rahul | sigh |
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| 15:31.32 | rahul | I guess I should stop talking to vsd before I get silenced, too |
| 15:31.33 | anirban | Hi I am using lenny |
| 15:31.53 | anirban | and I want to install a package which is in sid |
| 15:31.57 | anirban | what to do |
| 15:32.18 | anirban | should I download the source and compile |
| 15:32.20 | simonrvn | /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 15:32.30 | anirban | is there any way I can back port using apt |
| 15:33.27 | stew | anirban: yes, /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 15:33.53 | PinkFreud | abrotman: the other urls aren't much help, alas |
| 15:33.53 | hoxu | backport from sid to lenny? Isn't pinning for that? :) |
| 15:34.00 | nergalix | you can add a sid server to your sources.list and install via apt-get install -t unstable <package> |
| 15:34.08 | PinkFreud | abrotman: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ doesn't actually have a usb stick section |
| 15:34.20 | petemc | nergalix: thats pretty bad advice |
| 15:34.25 | ronr | rahul: R is based on S-plus, it's been quite a few years, but I actually had to use that back in college :) |
| 15:34.52 | nergalix | petemc: why that? |
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| 15:35.08 | rahul | ronr: yeah... I find the way it deals with data structures to be rather non-intuitive... I usually need to run it in X to guess and check as to which axes go where |
| 15:35.27 | anirban | thanks simonrvn and stew |
| 15:35.31 | rahul | ronr: but the graphs it makes are really nice |
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| 15:35.59 | petemc | nergalix: because that will often pull in libraries like libc6, meaning you're essentially running unstable now |
| 15:35.59 | anirban | is any one know a good c/c++ web service tool kit for Linux |
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| 15:36.13 | treb0r | anybody know if it's possible to change the names of external drives in gnome? |
| 15:36.19 | PinkFreud | hmmm. Wonder if I can file a bug against the documentation. :) |
| 15:36.22 | justin | anirban: thrift |
| 15:36.33 | ronr | rahul: I'll read the introduction manual (it's only 100 pages :D) |
| 15:36.41 | justin | treb0r: change the filesystem label |
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| 15:36.57 | treb0r | justin: do I use gnomeconf for that? |
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| 15:37.06 | SerajewelKS | petemc: i thought anirban was using lenny |
| 15:37.16 | SerajewelKS | petemc: libc should be pretty much the same between lenny and sid these days, no? |
| 15:37.23 | malomalo | how do "hit the insert key" so to speak if i don't have on on my keyboard? |
| 15:37.31 | petemc | SerajewelKS: not to my knowledge |
| 15:37.33 | malomalo | i'm sshed into my server and it's on insert |
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| 15:37.37 | justin | treb0r: no idea |
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| 15:37.46 | petemc | SerajewelKS: i wasnt following the conversation, just commenting on what nergalix said |
| 15:37.47 | justin | malomalo: insert is the default |
| 15:38.14 | rahul | malomalo: M-x overwrite-mode |
| 15:38.19 | SerajewelKS | lenny and sid libc are off by two debian package revisions |
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| 15:38.29 | SerajewelKS | sid packages should be able to use the lenny libc fine |
| 15:38.34 | rahul | hmm, that probably doesn't work in ash |
| 15:38.38 | nergalix | petemc: true. Such stuff has to be checked when using packages from sid. Though it is an option if an backport doesn't exist and you don't want to recompile |
| 15:38.47 | adama | what is this +AVERSIONA crud 'freenode-connect |
| 15:38.50 | rahul | oh, it seems to only work in zsh |
| 15:38.51 | adama | is messaging me about |
| 15:39.14 | stew | adama: #freenode |
| 15:39.14 | rahul | adama: the server checking for bots |
| 15:39.20 | malomalo | rahul: and that changes the default or just changes it for my session? |
| 15:39.29 | rahul | malomalo: just for that session |
| 15:39.32 | adama | hmmm |
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| 15:39.57 | adama | how does that tell it if I'm a bot? |
| 15:39.58 | petemc | SerajewelKS: its pretty much never a good idea to mix releases, im not sure what your point is at all |
| 15:40.56 | malomalo | rahul: do i just run this in the terminal, because i get an error |
| 15:41.29 | rahul | malomalo: M-x means meta-x |
| 15:41.32 | enouf | adama: go ask in #freenode-help or something |
| 15:41.41 | rahul | malomalo: and I don't know if it works outside of zsh |
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| 15:42.42 | enouf | malomalo: get a better keyboard ;-P |
| 15:42.54 | malomalo | enouf: i'm using a mac |
| 15:43.03 | enouf | malomalo: right - get a better keyboard ;-P |
| 15:43.12 | enouf | oh wait |
| 15:43.24 | enouf | erm .. what's that mac keyboard factoid? |
| 15:43.29 | malomalo | enouf: dude this one is awesome, i love it, its one of the newerones |
| 15:43.36 | enouf | wait |
| 15:43.54 | SerajewelKS | petemc: i mix testing and unstable regularly. usually the packages i pull in from unstable become testing relatively quickly. |
| 15:44.03 | enouf | omg, 15 of 423 returned for mac O_o |
| 15:44.13 | SerajewelKS | petemc: IIRC stable and anything else is dangerous. testing and unstable is relatively safe if you know what you're doing. |
| 15:44.19 | enouf | it's not the forcedeth one either |
| 15:44.45 | petemc | SerajewelKS: its not good advice, no matter what you do |
| 15:44.47 | enouf | ahh! |
| 15:44.53 | enouf | !mac-delete |
| 15:44.53 | dpkg | somebody said mac-delete was [Shift]+[Backspace which is labeled as [Delete]] |
| 15:44.59 | SerajewelKS | petemc: if you say so |
| 15:45.00 | enouf | wait |
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| 15:45.14 | petemc | SerajewelKS: im glad you agree |
| 15:45.54 | lbt | dpkg question - I have an app and I'd like to see it's version, so: dpkg-query -l $app |
| 15:45.55 | dpkg | - I have an app and I'd like to see it's version, so: dpkg-query -l $app: Do you have a Debian-related question that we can help you with? If you do, please ask it and someone will try to help; if you do not, then please be quiet. |
| 15:45.57 | lbt | Now I'd like to see a recursive list of all things it depends on: dpk-query -lr $app |
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| 15:46.04 | lbt | a dpkg question - I have an app and I'd like to see it's version, so: dpkg-query -l $app |
| 15:46.06 | lbt | Now I'd like to see a recursive list of all things it depends on: dpk-query -lr $app |
| 15:46.15 | lbt | any idea how? |
| 15:46.22 | enouf | hrm .. malomalo "/msg dpkg backspace and delete reversed" and "/msg dpkg backspace problem" .. see if that applies - if not, i apologize |
| 15:47.13 | G-- | does anyone know how to run a command via SSH, so the command will stay running even after you have logged out? |
| 15:47.15 | enouf | but i could've swore there was one about somehow going into the setup of the terminal and enabling/disabling UTF or someshit .. dammit |
| 15:47.24 | petemc | G--: use screen |
| 15:47.30 | G-- | screen? |
| 15:47.32 | petemc | yes |
| 15:47.43 | G-- | is that a program? |
| 15:47.46 | petemc | yes |
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| 15:47.55 | G-- | apt-get install screen? |
| 15:48.04 | SlayerXP | G--: aptitude install screen |
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| 15:48.33 | G-- | so if I login back via SSH, I will still see the command running? |
| 15:48.38 | MrNaz | SlayerXP whats the difference between aptitude install and apt-get install ? |
| 15:48.41 | G-- | to the account |
| 15:48.50 | themill | dpkg: tell MrNaz about why aptitude |
| 15:48.52 | rahul | MrNaz: different applications. aptitude is more advanced |
| 15:48.57 | SlayerXP | MrNaz: cool kids use aptitude |
| 15:49.01 | enouf | lbt: apt-get rdepends pkgname ? |
| 15:49.05 | rahul | (but is missing 2 or 3 features that apt-get provides...) |
| 15:49.06 | SlayerXP | I'm told it's the future |
| 15:49.08 | MrNaz | SlayerXP but i'm not cool :( |
| 15:49.18 | luxh | G--: yes. you just have to resume your running screen, 'screen -r' |
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| 15:49.42 | enouf | lbt: crap - apt-CACHE rdepends pkgname ? |
| 15:49.43 | G-- | wasnt there a file extension with you can do the same? |
| 15:49.56 | G-- | and what is the difference between aptitude and apt-get? |
| 15:50.11 | malomalo | enouf: yeah didn't work |
| 15:50.28 | lbt | enouf: depends, not rdepends but I'll explore apt-cache - ta :) |
| 15:50.45 | enouf | malomalo: ask maybe in #debian-mac , #debianppc .. some form of that? |
| 15:51.09 | enouf | lbt: ok, thought you wanted reverse depends :-P |
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| 15:51.22 | lbt | enouf: it's for a bug report - I figured it'd be good to look at the top level version and then all the libraries etc... |
| 15:51.50 | malomalo | enouf: k will do, thanks for the help |
| 15:51.58 | enouf | lbt: one sec |
| 15:51.58 | G-- | what is the difference between aptitude and apt-get? |
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| 15:52.44 | rahul | G--: it's like the difference between bash and zsh... they're different interfaces. |
| 15:52.49 | enouf | lbt: could also try stuff like; ~$ ldd `which hdparm` <--for the hdparm binary say |
| 15:52.59 | G-- | alright |
| 15:53.12 | G-- | thanks for all your help |
| 15:53.45 | enouf | G--: the debian reference talks about it a bit - also "/msg dpkg why aptitude" (and then 'why not aptitude') |
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| 15:55.33 | MrNaz | when booting for a debian install, do you have to specify that you're installing on a system with scsi or does that happen automatically ? coz i'm trying to install debian on a ibm xseries 330 and the partition manager doesnt seem to see any disks |
| 15:55.58 | rahul | MrNaz: you might need to boot with the right image that has scsi drivers |
| 15:56.03 | enouf | MrNaz: well, the controller needs a driver ... |
| 15:56.13 | valdyn | MrNaz: the installer has a driver for your disk controller or it does not, scsi has nothing to do with that |
| 15:56.13 | rahul | I think the default images these days don't have scsi any more |
| 15:56.15 | MrNaz | rahul the standard image doesnt have scsi drivers ? |
| 15:56.30 | enouf | ? |
| 15:56.32 | valdyn | what the |
| 15:56.36 | valdyn | sure they have scsi |
| 15:56.36 | rahul | well, they need scsi for sata |
| 15:56.41 | rahul | I mean controllers |
| 15:56.44 | MrNaz | right |
| 15:57.00 | enouf | hit the Fn keys ;-P |
| 15:57.02 | rahul | (since in linux sata is a kind of scsi :P) |
| 15:57.06 | MrNaz | well i'm installing on a pretty old machine, an ibm xseries 330, which is a very widely used machine with linux... |
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| 15:57.33 | valdyn | rahul: how is it a kind of scsi? |
| 15:57.42 | MrNaz | not sure if that indicates the likelihood that there's a driver for it |
| 15:57.51 | valdyn | rahul: only commonality is that drivers use the same infrasctructure |
| 15:57.55 | MrNaz | valdyn i think he means it's handled by the same subsystem |
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| 15:58.22 | G-- | thanks, screen is working fine |
| 15:58.50 | MrNaz | i dont suppose anyone has any experience using these ibm machines? |
| 15:58.52 | valdyn | MrNaz: all block device storage is the same subsystem ( or will be soon ) |
| 15:59.07 | enouf | oh, it's older? there's a tad of info here http://wiki.debian.org/ServerHardware/Sarge?highlight=%28server%29%7C%28hardware%29 BUT it might be outdated .. so |
| 15:59.42 | clipper | hey. nmap is acting buggy. is this normal? |
| 15:59.43 | clipper | http://paste.debian.net/7355/ |
| 16:00.10 | adama | clipper use -P0 |
| 16:00.19 | valdyn | clipper: what is the output of "host localhost" |
| 16:00.21 | adama | your localhost is blocking pings apparently |
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| 16:00.36 | clipper | 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:00.55 | stew | clipper: what happens when you run "ping localhost"? do you get replies? |
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| 16:03.07 | clipper | not yet |
| 16:03.25 | clipper | ...no replies |
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| 16:04.13 | clipper | oh. lo was down |
| 16:04.18 | stew | clipper: then i don't think that it is a bug in nmap |
| 16:04.35 | clipper | i have to bring lo and eth1 up manually after loggin in |
| 16:04.53 | clipper | is that something for the /etc/networks/interfaces file? |
| 16:04.54 | simonrvn | why? |
| 16:05.02 | simonrvn | yes |
| 16:05.03 | stew | clipper: do you have "auto lo" and "auto eth1" in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 16:06.45 | clipper | http://paste.debian.net/7358/ |
| 16:08.19 | simonrvn | suffice it to say it's a bit of a mess |
| 16:08.55 | stew | clipper: that is the entire file? |
| 16:09.14 | stew | clipper: it appears to have been truncated |
| 16:09.22 | enouf | wow, there's an old dell debian iso (2.4.31) mentioned here, that boots those ibms |
| 16:09.27 | enouf | er here http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers |
| 16:09.56 | clipper | stew: that's the whole file |
| 16:10.39 | stew | clipper: you should fix it. man interfaces |
| 16:10.48 | stew | clipper: or /msg dpkg man interfaces |
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| 16:15.59 | G-- | which ftpd would you recommend? |
| 16:16.20 | justin | G--: no ftpd |
| 16:16.29 | G-- | I currently have installed proftpd |
| 16:16.32 | GuilhermeCunha | proftpd |
| 16:16.34 | GuilhermeCunha | :) |
| 16:16.37 | G-- | but I find it not very userfriendly |
| 16:16.43 | Coke | Hi. Can someone recommend an audio player that is small, does not require kde/gnome, does not run as a daemon, just simple play multiple audio files? |
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| 16:16.46 | GuilhermeCunha | and client gftpd |
| 16:16.47 | GuilhermeCunha | :) |
| 16:16.49 | prisoner1 | why is it that there is no i386 sid version of git-core? |
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| 16:17.16 | prisoner1 | Coke xmms? |
| 16:17.36 | G-- | I cannot even find the option to enable that all users can upload a file |
| 16:17.39 | G-- | files* |
| 16:17.47 | G-- | and I cannot login as root |
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| 16:18.45 | cahoot | Coke: mplayer? |
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| 16:19.11 | GuilhermeCunha | G--: find for proftpd.conf and enable root login |
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| 16:19.21 | G-- | i found it |
| 16:19.32 | enouf | Coke: aplay :-p |
| 16:19.36 | G-- | ok, lets take a look again |
| 16:19.38 | simonrvn | bad idea, btw |
| 16:19.38 | GuilhermeCunha | found option allow root ogin ? |
| 16:19.43 | diego | hi, i have a problem with package conflicting, someone installed exim and i had postfix installed... now i can't remove exim |
| 16:19.45 | enouf | Coke: (doesn't like mp3 though) |
| 16:19.46 | diego | it says that it's conflicting |
| 16:20.06 | cahoot | enouf: or anything else besides wav |
| 16:20.10 | justin | diego: it says what? |
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| 16:20.21 | enouf | cahoot: oh well - 16 bit PCM ftw :-P |
| 16:20.24 | G-- | GuilhermeCunha: couldnt find an option in the conf file to enable it |
| 16:20.36 | enouf | cahoot: @ 1411kb/sec |
| 16:20.37 | GuilhermeCunha | wait |
| 16:20.41 | diego | justin: http://pastebin.com/m5bf16f77 |
| 16:20.49 | Coke | prisoner1: I'm in debian testing, it seems to have been removed in favour of some server based crap |
| 16:20.57 | Coke | enouf: and pcm encoded wavs |
| 16:21.06 | Coke | enouf: in fact, there's alot of stuff it doesn like |
| 16:21.09 | justin | diego: where does it say anything about a conflict? |
| 16:21.10 | enouf | encoded? |
| 16:21.15 | Coke | cahoot: I need it to have a playlist which I can randomize |
| 16:21.20 | prisoner1 | I see |
| 16:21.22 | Coke | XMMS was _perfect_ |
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| 16:21.30 | justin | diego: remove the exim packages that it mentions |
| 16:21.31 | cahoot | Coke: aqualung? |
| 16:21.32 | enouf | xmms2 needs a DE? |
| 16:21.51 | Coke | enouf: well, I need the daemon package for it |
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| 16:22.14 | defrysk | get audacious |
| 16:22.26 | GuilhermeCunha | G--: http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-Authentication.html |
| 16:22.27 | diego | justin: http://pastebin.com/m2fcf7b27 |
| 16:22.47 | Coke | aqulung gives me "No usable output driver was found. Please see aqualung --help" |
| 16:22.54 | Coke | I need something that "just works" |
| 16:23.02 | justin | diego: remove the exim packages, run the command it tells you to run |
| 16:23.18 | G-- | thanks, GuilhermeCunba |
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| 16:24.30 | prisoner1 | jlgui Coke |
| 16:24.47 | prisoner1 | requires java |
| 16:25.01 | Coke | prisoner1: NO NO NO NO |
| 16:25.27 | GuilhermeCunha | :) |
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| 16:25.30 | justin | Coke: lol |
| 16:25.31 | Coke | Aside the fact that I boycot Java if I don't want Gnome, KDE or other bloat stuff Java just won't cut it. |
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| 16:25.44 | justin | Coke: vlc will work fine |
| 16:25.47 | adama | is there a way to use activeX controls on debian? wine? |
| 16:25.49 | Coke | time for rubarb pie. |
| 16:25.52 | el_critter | Hi, I'm trying to install debian on a PowerPC G4, I'm having a lot of trouble with installer hangs... is this common or should I check my hardware? |
| 16:26.09 | Coke | justin: I'll see if it does what I want properly later. like I said before, XMMS was truly perfect for my needs. |
| 16:26.31 | justin | Coke: so use beep-media-player |
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| 16:26.46 | G-- | damn, that proftpd configuration file really isnt easy |
| 16:26.58 | G-- | does someone know a good alternative? |
| 16:27.41 | luxh | vsftpd? |
| 16:27.56 | justin | G--: yes, don't run ftpd |
| 16:28.06 | G-- | why not? |
| 16:28.11 | diego | justin: i tried, but it fails with some dpkg error... http://pastebin.com/m166938cf |
| 16:28.25 | G-- | I need an FTPd |
| 16:28.38 | G-- | is vsftpd any good? |
| 16:28.56 | luxh | well it's very secure |
| 16:29.12 | justin | diego: odd, dunno what you did to break your system like that, but removing line 96 of the file should make that error go away |
| 16:29.28 | G-- | does it also have a lot options? |
| 16:29.32 | rahul | uh |
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| 16:29.36 | rahul | why do you need an ftpd? |
| 16:30.01 | G-- | to give access to a webhost |
| 16:30.31 | luxh | you can read it's features here: http://vsftpd.beasts.org/#features |
| 16:30.43 | diego | justin: i didn't do anything... i had postfix working, then another guy come and installed exim and this is what occurred |
| 16:31.07 | justin | diego: I don't know what HE did then |
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| 16:31.18 | G-- | ok, looks good, will try that one |
| 16:31.20 | rahul | G--: ftp has nothing to do with web hosting... |
| 16:31.23 | justin | diego: maybe the shell history would have some clues |
| 16:31.40 | G-- | well, it is an easy way for customers to place their files on their site |
| 16:31.46 | rahul | G--: so is http |
| 16:32.00 | rahul | G--: or sftp, for that matter |
| 16:32.01 | themill | G--: so is sftp |
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| 16:32.16 | ampex | most web hosts offer ftp |
| 16:32.23 | ampex | it's fairly ubiquitous |
| 16:32.23 | themill | unfortunately |
| 16:32.25 | rahul | most computers run MS windows |
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| 16:32.33 | G-- | oh, sftp is new for me |
| 16:32.34 | ampex | what's wrong with ftp? |
| 16:32.44 | treb0r | plain text passwords |
| 16:32.51 | rahul | treb0r: uh, that's not a feature of ftp |
| 16:33.01 | treb0r | it's an unfeature |
| 16:33.03 | rahul | treb0r: you can use other auth methods |
| 16:33.11 | treb0r | yes, but nobody does |
| 16:33.11 | themill | ampex: what other than it's a horribly broken protocol and most implementations don't have good support for TLS |
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| 16:33.20 | hereje | Hi all... I have a file and it's respective patch... How can i apply this patch ? |
| 16:33.25 | rahul | treb0r: and nobody runs debian |
| 16:33.33 | ampex | right, but it wasn't meant to be a secure protocol |
| 16:33.42 | rahul | boggles |
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| 16:33.53 | themill | ampex: so therefore shouldn't be used for uploading things where auth is required... |
| 16:34.00 | rahul | ampex: if it's not secure, you'd advise using it for a commercial web hosting company? |
| 16:34.01 | treb0r | rahul: the number one cause of hacked sites is people using ftp and having their passwords stolen |
| 16:34.18 | G-- | no |
| 16:34.23 | G-- | #1 is exploits |
| 16:34.26 | treb0r | just use scp instead |
| 16:34.27 | G-- | in web software |
| 16:34.30 | rahul | treb0r: the number one cause of hacked myspace pages is idiots putting their password into sites that aren't myspace, but look like it |
| 16:34.46 | rahul | therefore http is bad. |
| 16:34.47 | G-- | and keyloggers of course |
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| 16:35.11 | hereje | Anybody can help me? I need to apply a patch to a file write in perl... |
| 16:35.15 | NeoLobst1r | Does anyone know when postgres 8.2's package became obsolete? |
| 16:35.18 | themill | Anyway... this is the second time we've done the "ftp is bad" thing on #debian today. It wasn't on topic last time either.... ==> #debian-offtopic, please. |
| 16:35.20 | maligor | rahul, http isn't the problem, people are |
| 16:35.27 | treb0r | rahul: i'm not sure what you're getting at |
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| 16:35.59 | rahul | will vsftpd even support the kind of thing he wants to do without crazy chroot setup? |
| 16:36.08 | dryrot | tcp is insecure |
| 16:36.17 | rahul | he _wants_ the most insecure setup of an ftpd |
| 16:36.27 | ampex | vsftpd will "chroot" users via the configuration file |
| 16:38.09 | G-- | i'll just stick with FTP and try vsftpd |
| 16:38.35 | G-- | server is becoming a trash already |
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| 16:46.26 | Gm4n | what does it mean if my box keeps detecting soft lockups on cpu #0 and needing a reboot? |
| 16:46.47 | _moro_bana_ | will installing on the root path "\" remove all the apps that are installed? |
| 16:47.18 | simonrvn | what is \ ? |
| 16:47.32 | simonrvn | you trying to install windows or something? |
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| 16:48.49 | _moro_bana_ | simonrvn; no, , those are options when manually selecting points where to install |
| 16:49.06 | _moro_bana_ | simonrvn: or maybe its / |
| 16:49.22 | themill | _moro_bana_: which install disk are you using? |
| 16:49.28 | hoxu | yeah, it's '/', the microsoft guys had a funny layout and thought typing '\' is easier |
| 16:50.19 | simonrvn | they were trying to have a path separator different from then mac os and unix, by using \. which is really lame, but : is just as lame too. |
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| 16:50.35 | el_critter | Hi, I'm trying to install debian on a PowerPC G4, I'm having a lot of trouble with installer hangs... is this common or should I check my hardware? |
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| 16:50.38 | simonrvn | IMO |
| 16:50.59 | diego | how do i remove a package and all it's dependencies |
| 16:51.16 | simonrvn | el_critter: #debianppc |
| 16:51.27 | el_critter | simonrvn: thanx |
| 16:51.46 | themill | diego: if you installed with with aptitude, then you can just remove it with aptitude and aptitude will handle that for you. Else, look at deborphan or debfoster. |
| 16:51.47 | hoxu | simonrvn, heh well, I don't know what the truth is :P |
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| 16:52.17 | themill | _moro_bana_: please keep it in the channel so that other people can help you should I get hit by a bus mid sentence. |
| 16:52.39 | rahul | wonders why themill is IRCing in the middle of the street |
| 16:52.40 | diego | themill: i've installed with apt |
| 16:52.42 | diego | apt-get |
| 16:52.52 | themill | _moro_bana_: if you're trying to install ubuntu, which is sounds like you are, then you should ask in #ubuntu as their installer is quite different. |
| 16:53.14 | themill | dpkg: tell diego about deborphan |
| 16:53.14 | _moro_bana_ | themill: thank you |
| 16:53.24 | hoxu | diego, I suggest you start learning aptitude then, you need to go through the dependencies manually anyway and mark them automatically installed |
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| 16:53.42 | hoxu | diego, IMHO aptitude is much better than deborphan or debfoster |
| 16:53.56 | themill | yes, there's a lot less left to chance |
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| 16:54.46 | samuel16 | On which Debian DVD can I find XFCE? |
| 16:54.56 | themill | !cd contents |
| 16:54.56 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, use the searchable index at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. Also ask me about <cd contents sarge>. |
| 16:55.12 | samuel16 | thanks |
| 16:56.33 | enouf | samuel16: there might even be a CD made to install XFCE |
| 16:56.53 | enouf | along with a KDE one - so you only need 1 CD say |
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| 16:57.08 | enouf | erm, i mean /as well as/ a kde one |
| 16:57.19 | justin | xfce is pretty small, you can just install it after the base system |
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| 16:58.29 | justin | no point in downloading an entire CD for 20M of packages |
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| 16:58.39 | enouf | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r3/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r3-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso |
| 16:58.53 | enouf | he wants a DVD O_o |
| 16:59.15 | enouf | so i figure, cutting that down to a CD == save :-p |
| 16:59.21 | justin | heh, any system I would consider running xfce on doens't even have a dvd drive |
| 16:59.47 | samuel16 | I'm downloading the cd |
| 16:59.53 | samuel16 | thanks guys |
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| 17:00.31 | enouf | justin: is xfce + it's depends really that small? |
| 17:00.40 | enouf | and is that xfce4? |
| 17:00.54 | justin | on a currently headless box: Need to get 30.9MB of archives |
| 17:01.04 | enouf | not bad ;-) |
| 17:01.09 | justin | on my desktop that already has X: Need to get 12.2MB of archives |
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| 17:01.24 | enouf | well, considering Firepoop source is over 40MB :-p |
| 17:01.38 | enouf | IIRC |
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| 17:12.13 | enouf | samuel16: oh yeah, ensure your ISO is good, compare md5sum http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r3/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS |
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| 17:23.34 | diego | hoxu: ok |
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| 17:26.07 | nvz | how could I say add the packages from debian-multimedia.org to the 3rd DVD iso, as its not quite as large as the other two, or otherwise make a cd/dvd for D-M? |
| 17:26.44 | nvz | I'm trying to make a complete Stable set of everything someone would need if they don't have an internet connection |
| 17:26.55 | enouf | !custom cd |
| 17:26.55 | dpkg | methinks custom cd is So you want to build a debian installer with a custom kernel image eh? Well then, read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel | Also see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianCustomCD | http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?CustomDebian | #debian-custom on irc.oftc.net http://lists.debian.org/debian-custom/ |
| 17:27.47 | nvz | the wiki.debian.net doesn't resolve for me |
| 17:27.54 | nvz | but the last url came up |
| 17:28.13 | enouf | well, i would just add whatever i wanted .. |
| 17:28.29 | enouf | naturally, it'll no longer be "official" |
| 17:28.48 | enouf | nor will md5sums nor sha*sums matcg |
| 17:28.49 | nvz | yeah well I'm not sure entirely how to do that. I know I can mount the ISO loopback.. and thats about as far as my knowledge on the subject goes |
| 17:28.53 | justin | nvz: wiki.debian.org |
| 17:28.53 | enouf | match* |
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| 17:29.00 | clipper | ok. is this correct. i'm trying to avoid reboot till i have it right |
| 17:29.01 | clipper | http://paste.debian.net/7368/ |
| 17:29.08 | nvz | as far as how to put the packages on there and how to update the packages.gz and stuff.. I have no idea |
| 17:29.25 | enouf | nvz: you need to mkisofs from that then - use genisoimage |
| 17:29.54 | enouf | nvz: with the various boot options to make it bootable - if needed |
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| 17:30.08 | nvz | I already got the first DVD image burnt, and the 2nd one is on the way right now via bittorent |
| 17:30.33 | nvz | I just figured before I get to the 3rd one I should think about how to also include the debian-multimedia repository since there are lots of important things on there |
| 17:30.39 | enouf | you loop mount the ISO , add what you want, and reroll the ISO |
| 17:30.56 | enouf | from that /mnt/point |
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| 17:31.32 | nvz | okay, well what about the process of adding the packages? I can't just drop em in the /pool/ they have to be in the package files or apt won't know about em |
| 17:32.03 | dutchfish | nvz, there is (at the top of my head) a script for that |
| 17:32.18 | nvz | I checked d-m.o and they don't have an ISO of any kind pre-made |
| 17:32.33 | clipper | http://paste.debian.net/7368/ |
| 17:32.42 | ampex | how can I easily determine which package provides a binary or file? |
| 17:32.51 | wols_ | dpkg -S <file> |
| 17:32.51 | dpkg | There is no record of a <file> package |
| 17:32.55 | nvz | it would probably be easiest to just make a seperate cd for the d-m.o repo and not mess with the official ISO |
| 17:33.29 | dutchfish | ampex, use apt-file |
| 17:33.34 | nvz | I'm guessing the d-m repo will fit on a standard CD |
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| 17:34.32 | enouf | something like; genisoimage -o name-of-your.iso -R -J -D -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table |
| 17:34.48 | enouf | gah, drop that -D though ,not needed |
| 17:35.00 | enouf | the -J is joliet crap |
| 17:35.45 | enouf | oh, and add the /mnt/point on the end as the directory to create it from ;-) |
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| 17:37.13 | enouf | make your own cd and use apt-cdrom to add that cd as a mirror/repo ? |
| 17:37.28 | nvz | Idk wtf happened there :-P |
| 17:37.30 | nvz | afaik the two most important things or I should say commonly used things on d-m are the w32codecs, and the libdvdcss stuff |
| 17:37.48 | dutchfish | nvz, dpkg-scan(packages|sources) for building a packagelist |
| 17:37.59 | nvz | cause all the mplayer stuff seems to be in debian now |
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| 17:38.34 | enouf | well, supposedly the ffmpeg atleast is different .. or parts of it are missing .. idk |
| 17:38.35 | nvz | dutchfish: ok, is that on all debian systems or do I need to install something? |
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| 17:38.56 | themill | nvz: mencoder still isn't in debian, only on dmm |
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| 17:39.14 | nvz | what about things like Java, Flash.. etc.. are those installable from the 3 dvd isos? |
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| 17:39.46 | nvz | I mean they are basically more useful with an internet connection anyway, so I guess thats not too important |
| 17:40.00 | dutchfish | nvz, i think so yes |
| 17:40.08 | themill | nvz: flash is not in stable at all, so no; java is in non-free and I don't think anything from non-free is on the DVDs |
| 17:40.44 | nvz | ah.. no big deal then |
| 17:40.47 | dutchfish | nvz, or at least (not sure) in build-eesential, but i think its in the base system |
| 17:41.26 | themill | nvz: You'll probably want thing like drivers out of contrib and firmware out of non-free too. |
| 17:42.11 | nvz | these people just returned their PC to rent-a-center and I'm building them a debian/xp dual boot system and I want to encourage them to get used to debian cause I don't really wanna be supporting all the annoying problems they are gonna have with xp.. heh |
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| 17:42.59 | dutchfish | nvz, luckely they didnt ask for vista ;) |
| 17:43.13 | nvz | I burned the first two CD isos and come to find out there are like 0 games other than fortunes-mod on the first two cds.. heh |
| 17:43.17 | G-- | does anyone know if the problem that I cannot upload to my server or make a file has to do with my vsftpd.conf or with the access of the user? |
| 17:43.25 | nvz | he specifically asked for supertux, cause he thought it was cool |
| 17:43.33 | enouf | dutchfish: build-essential is for building shit ;-) |
| 17:43.40 | nvz | which is why I figured I'd just burn the whole repo on DVDs |
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| 17:44.06 | dutchfish | enouf, ok, in wich package is dpkg-scan ? |
| 17:44.20 | larsl | Does anyone know why krfb would think that it's running on port 0 (that's what it says in all generated invitations) and how to fix that? |
| 17:44.25 | nvz | something I found interesting is I burned the gnome cd (iso 1) and iso2, and there were all the international language packages for KDE in his synaptic package manager... yet there was no kde packages at all.. |
| 17:44.29 | dutchfish | enouf, its there but apt-file is not pooping it out |
| 17:44.34 | enouf | dutchfish: hrm .. |
| 17:44.36 | nvz | I can't help but think popcon failed us there |
| 17:44.36 | enouf | ~$ dlocate dpkg-scan |
| 17:44.37 | enouf | dpkg-dev: /usr/share/man/man1/dpkg-scanpackages.1.gz |
| 17:44.51 | enouf | dpkg-dev: /usr/bin/dpkg-scanpackages |
| 17:45.26 | dutchfish | so dpkg-dev base ? or part of build-essential? |
| 17:45.35 | enouf | dpkg-dev |
| 17:45.49 | themill | larsl: I would guess that it's saying "screen 0" not "port 0". That will be the offset to the well-known port which for vnc is 5900. |
| 17:45.55 | nvz | stuffs his pants in the oven |
| 17:46.17 | enouf | ~$ apt-cache show dpkg-dev |
| 17:46.24 | themill | dutchfish: build-essential depends on dpkg-dev |
| 17:46.43 | dutchfish | themill, righty, that explains it |
| 17:46.48 | dutchfish | themill, thanks |
| 17:46.52 | themill | np |
| 17:47.09 | larsl | themill: Aha. |
| 17:47.10 | enouf | themill: Recommends: build-essential |
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| 17:47.50 | enouf | themill: crap - sorry |
| 17:47.58 | enouf | i did that backwards :-P |
| 17:48.05 | themill | :) |
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| 17:49.36 | larsl | themill: That was it, thanks. |
| 17:49.40 | nvz | I wonder if the cost of these DVDs I am making should reflect the speed of my internet connection.. heh.. took me like 10hrs to get the first dvd |
| 17:49.40 | larsl | RIght. |
| 17:49.45 | enouf | nvz: cdimage dir contains a kde specific CD, as well as an XFCE one |
| 17:49.50 | themill | larsl: excellent |
| 17:50.08 | larsl | Don't open a VNC client on the same desktop as the server is running on. =) |
| 17:50.18 | nvz | enouf: yeah I thought about that after I said it.. but if you're not using the KDE cd having the intl packages for it seems to be silly |
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| 17:50.58 | enouf | nvz: well, i use localepurge a lot ;-) |
| 17:51.07 | nvz | enouf: what I wonder then, are the kde packages exclusivly on the kde iso1, or if I use the gnome iso1, and burn the other 13 isos, would I still have kde packages? |
| 17:51.24 | xerophyte | say i have 3 debian repository on my source.list i have pin stable and backport for some packages . but i have new version of kernel on our local repository but .. when i do apt-get update and upgrade .. its not picking the local repository .. may be the way i pin the satble and backport how can i pin the other local pository which also stable(etch)? |
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| 17:51.31 | enouf | nvz: sure you will - the installation guide talks about it |
| 17:51.36 | dutchfish | larsl, i do that many times without a glitch, but i tell explicitly wich ports to use ;) |
| 17:52.35 | larsl | dutchfish: Don't you get infinite loops of the client window? |
| 17:52.45 | nvz | enouf: I must figure since I installed debian like 8 years ago reading that page is useless.. heh.. though the installer has significantly changed since then |
| 17:52.45 | enouf | nvz: if you used the orig CD1 (with gnome) and passed the options at boot "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" that would install KDE, BUT, you'd need either DVD1 or the 1st NN CDs |
| 17:53.08 | dutchfish | larsl, nope |
| 17:53.19 | enouf | nvz: no, it's been extremely well updated for Etch |
| 17:53.25 | dutchfish | larsl, ah connecting from within you meant? |
| 17:53.26 | nvz | isn't sure how to tell when pants are done.. |
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| 17:53.49 | enouf | hehe |
| 17:54.14 | nvz | I underestimated the weather last night, and don't have a dryer |
| 17:54.17 | enouf | nvz: are your feet warm? :-P |
| 17:54.29 | nvz | warm enough.. I put socks on |
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| 17:54.56 | enouf | oh .. lmao, i thought you said "...pants are down" |
| 17:55.03 | nvz | just the cleanest pair of pants I have are the ones I put on late last night and they are wet.. so I had to decide to wear dirty pands, or wet pants |
| 17:55.06 | dutchfish | 0.o |
| 17:55.10 | nvz | na, I put my pants in the oven |
| 17:55.12 | enouf | i should stop reading sideways :-P |
| 17:55.12 | nvz | heh |
| 17:55.43 | dutchfish | listening to a chplin story ? |
| 17:55.52 | dutchfish | s/chplin/chaplin |
| 17:55.55 | xingu | nvz: is that a roundabout way of saying you peed your pants? |
| 17:55.59 | enouf | cracks himself up sometimes .. |
| 17:56.13 | enouf | smacks desk |
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| 17:56.22 | nvz | na I got caught in the rain last night |
| 17:56.35 | rahul | xingu: and they're still the cleanest pair! |
| 17:56.41 | wols_ | nvz: were you singing? |
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| 17:56.53 | nvz | it was lightning for hours before I walked to the store.. but it wasn't thundering.. so I figured it would be awhile before it rained.. |
| 17:57.16 | dutchfish | wols_, i remember that one in the cinema ;) |
| 17:57.46 | nvz | I mean Fleetwood Mac said thunder only happens when its raining, and players only love you when they're playing.. heh |
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| 17:58.41 | nvz | I probably would have heard the thunder if I hadn't been walking with my pocketpc blasting music in my ears |
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| 17:59.18 | stew | so when you take meterological advice from coked out 70s rock and roll bands, you end up with wet pants |
| 17:59.29 | dutchfish | nvz, luckely it runs on battery instead of 230v |
| 17:59.45 | dutchfish | nvz, stay optimistic ;) |
| 17:59.57 | nvz | haha, yeah.. I've found it takes a long time for water to actually soak through the pockets of blue jeans |
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| 18:00.13 | nvz | or else I would have removed the battery to avoid ruining it |
| 18:00.52 | nvz | I got caught in a straigh downpour for like 15min the other night and was soaked head to toe, and when I got home my cell phone was completly dry |
| 18:00.58 | xingu | thunder tends to happen slightly before it starts raining in my experience |
| 18:01.14 | enouf | nvz: got an umbrella? |
| 18:01.25 | dutchfish | xingu, wasnt lightning first .... |
| 18:02.01 | enouf | lightning makes thunder |
| 18:02.02 | dutchfish | xingu, you can even notice that with a gettoblaster on you ears ;) |
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| 18:02.23 | nvz | enouf: no, and I was on the rail trail on a bike, on that 2-3 mile strech behind the Arboreatum where there was nowhere else to go. |
| 18:02.50 | nvz | other than into the river or up through the arboretum, and thats no place to be at 1am in a rain storm |
| 18:02.52 | xingu | dutchfish: depends on how far the observer is from the event I'd imagine |
| 18:02.59 | enouf | nvz: got a car? :-) |
| 18:03.04 | xingu | dutchfish: light travelling somewhat faster than sound and all :) |
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| 18:03.48 | enouf | xingu: just a tad bit :-p |
| 18:03.59 | dutchfish | xingu, mmm... i gues you must be deaf & blind to miss the event, even with a walkman ... |
| 18:04.11 | nvz | I really had no reason to be out riding at 1am other than I was bored and decided to take a 10mile ride around town |
| 18:04.49 | enouf | just making sure the streets are safe from those loose drunk college girls, eh? |
| 18:04.53 | enouf | hides |
| 18:05.40 | dutchfish | mumbles, so deaf and blind ...ok ... but drunk too? |
| 18:05.47 | nvz | its more fun to ride the trail when nobody's on it anyhow |
| 18:05.51 | enouf | gives away coordinates by smacking knee, and laughing uncontrollably |
| 18:06.33 | nvz | enouf: yeah, its a tought job, but someone's got to do it.. |
| 18:07.03 | nvz | enouf: are you kidding me? car? with the price of gas? |
| 18:07.10 | enouf | nvz: well, atleast 'part' of the dream came true; you got wet :-P |
| 18:07.29 | enouf | nvz: just turn on the engine to go uphill :-P |
| 18:07.40 | nvz | not to mention a bike is a quicker way around town anyhow.. the rail trail goes all around the WVU campus and its flat, and low traffic |
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| 18:08.23 | enouf | the car usually has a thing called a roof, and windows, and heat/AC for protection against the elements :-P mobile shelter ftw |
| 18:08.48 | nvz | yeah well that would cost more a month than my stationary shelter |
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| 18:09.02 | nvz | and I really don't travel that much for it to be economically feasable |
| 18:09.05 | dutchfish | enouf, but we dont like windows so you must have a convertable .... |
| 18:09.09 | enouf | nvz: invent a bicycle bubble O_o |
| 18:09.19 | helo | wth... firefox on etch is acting very strange today... |
| 18:09.39 | helo | random crashes and 100% cpu usage on multiple sites i routinely visit |
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| 18:10.26 | enouf | nvz: borrow the car - where is that place in euro that has those rent-a-jobs, like a bike, but it's a community car .. whatever |
| 18:10.34 | _ZeuZ_ | Hey guys, I´ve got a little issue... through webmin I´ve set the ACL for 172.16.0.0/24 so users can browse and SQUID record in cache,though now I cant get the ACL to work |
| 18:10.46 | enouf | </offtopic nonsense> |
| 18:10.57 | nvz | yeah well around here you have to be 25 and have a credit card. I won't be 25 for two more months |
| 18:11.21 | enouf | 25 to rent a car, and 18 to die? wtf .. sorry |
| 18:11.44 | nvz | enouf: democracy is full of hypocracy in this country |
| 18:12.10 | enouf | nvz: i'm in a few offtopic channels - one being #debian-offtopic |
| 18:12.55 | nvz | ah right.. maybe I;ll look in after I go see if these morons got me a job application yet.. heh.. been there every day for the past week.. they told me the first day they were about to run an ad to hire someone.. yet they have no job applications |
| 18:13.09 | nvz | rolls his eyes |
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| 18:36.58 | CrashSys | Anyone know if a rocketraid 2320 works with Etch without extra drivers? |
| 18:37.37 | Cyorxamp | CrashSys: check the manufacturers site to see any mention of what version Linux Kernel it may need |
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| 18:38.14 | infinitycircuit | how do you boot into the initramfs from grub again? |
| 18:38.20 | CrashSys | It says "2.6 Open Source" |
| 18:38.49 | Cyorxamp | does it say 'Linux' anywhere? |
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| 18:39.19 | Cyorxamp | if not then your chances are nil :P unless they don't know the chipset they decided to use works anyway |
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| 18:40.44 | CrashSys | Operating system support for Windows, Windows x64 Editions Linux (open source), FreeBSD (open source) and Mac OS X |
| 18:41.08 | Cyorxamp | yeah seems ok then, how old is the thing? |
| 18:41.21 | Cyorxamp | oh its highpoint - yeah they work |
| 18:41.36 | CrashSys | Yeah, a HighPoint 2320 |
| 18:41.42 | CrashSys | err RR2320 |
| 18:41.55 | CrashSys | So a Etch DVD will see it correctly and all that jazz? |
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| 18:42.40 | Cyorxamp | well CrashSys they made an open source driver available for kernel 2.4.x and 2.6.x so I'd say its a good bet someone put it into your distro's kernel yes |
| 18:43.08 | CrashSys | Ok. Just trying to eliminate surprises :) |
| 18:43.45 | Cyorxamp | it's no guarantee however, I stil see on google people attempting to install the driver for some reason |
| 18:44.13 | CrashSys | Yeah, which is why I came to ask, since the postings where fairly old... |
| 18:44.18 | Ace2016 | Yay its time to install debian sid on my desktop |
| 18:44.35 | Cyorxamp | WOO! whens the funeral ;P |
| 18:44.43 | ay^ | hmm whenever I try to edit the menu ithems the "starting main menu" windows pops up, but then dies, what is the command to start this process CLI-wise? |
| 18:44.52 | enouf | infinitycircuit: you want busybox? or a more robust boot? use init=/bin/sh |
| 18:44.56 | Cyorxamp | ay^: it's called alacarte |
| 18:45.07 | ay^ | Cyorxamp: Thanks! |
| 18:45.12 | Cyorxamp | np |
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| 18:46.50 | Ace2016 | ooo i'm feeling brave, should i go with amd64? |
| 18:46.51 | infinitycircuit | enouf: i am experimenting with startpar booting and if it fails to boot i want to be able to get into the initrd to remount the partitions and remove the changes |
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| 18:47.07 | Cyorxamp | Ace2016: YYeeea... NO |
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| 18:47.14 | Ace2016 | huh? |
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| 18:47.23 | Cyorxamp | IMO :P |
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| 18:47.33 | Ace2016 | oh ok |
| 18:48.04 | Cyorxamp | You'll find a headache of grabbing 32bit libraries to run things that arn't 64bit yet |
| 18:48.09 | themill | Ace2016: why are you trying to install sid? (You know that this is not possible, don't you?) |
| 18:48.19 | Ace2016 | yes it is |
| 18:48.23 | Ace2016 | install testing, jump to sid |
| 18:48.25 | Cyorxamp | it'll pretty much restrict you to whats in the repo's and not much else for download 'out there' |
| 18:48.29 | Ace2016 | well netinstall testing then go sid |
| 18:48.36 | Cyorxamp | why sid? |
| 18:48.47 | infinitycircuit | Ace2016: just boot a business card cd with "expert" and you can install a fresh sid without upgrade |
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| 18:48.55 | enouf | actually, there are ways, but i won;t mention them ;-) |
| 18:49.02 | Ace2016 | because i run it on my laptop and i want a matching package set on my desktop |
| 18:49.09 | enouf | infinitycircuit: bah! |
| 18:49.10 | Cyorxamp | Hi enouf |
| 18:49.17 | infinitycircuit | oops |
| 18:49.27 | enouf | !fruitsmite infinitycircuit |
| 18:49.28 | dpkg | smites infinitycircuit with a dozen blueberries |
| 18:49.34 | enouf | ;-P |
| 18:49.42 | enouf | Cyorxamp: ola! |
| 18:50.01 | Cyorxamp | thinks of something equally exotic... |
| 18:50.08 | Cyorxamp | enouf: EH UP DUCK! |
| 18:50.27 | Ace2016 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:50.35 | enouf | hey man, don't upchuck on the duck |
| 18:50.42 | Cyorxamp | o_O |
| 18:50.44 | enouf | dogg |
| 18:50.53 | Cyorxamp | your good at this |
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| 18:52.03 | xingu | Ace2016: that'd be "chkconfig irix on" |
| 18:52.15 | Ace2016 | wha? |
| 18:52.39 | Ace2016 | whats wrong with calling init.d directly? |
| 18:52.39 | enouf | pulls out an SGI interface and start swinging wildlu |
| 18:52.45 | enouf | wildly* |
| 18:52.54 | CharminTheMoose | gets clobbered as he passes by. |
| 18:53.00 | irix|Stopped | Ace2016: xingu lol |
| 18:53.21 | Ace2016 | :D |
| 18:53.55 | themill | infinitycircuit: you probably can't directly install sid even the way you mentioned. sid is often uninstallable. |
| 18:54.18 | Cyorxamp | hense... 07:48PM <<Cyorxamp>> why sid? |
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| 18:55.26 | enouf | themill: netboot is also another way |
| 18:55.37 | themill | enouf: still not guaranteed to work |
| 18:55.39 | Cyorxamp | trying lenny is another :P |
| 18:56.14 | enouf | themill: i don't think anything anywhere is guaranteed :-P |
| 18:57.12 | dutchfish | enouf, you can always get your refund for the investment you made in the software ... |
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| 18:57.59 | ZeuZ | "sid is often uninstallable." :::: WTH? |
| 18:58.16 | themill | enouf: yeah, but sid is often just plain broken and uninstallable. If an essential package is uninstallable for some reason, then you're hosed. It doesn't matter how you try to install it directly. Bootstrapping via testing, however, will always work and you'll get a lenny/sid mix. |
| 18:58.19 | enouf | dutchfish: nah, i'll just defer my risk onto all others :-P |
| 18:58.56 | dutchfish | enouf, daredevil ;) |
| 18:59.00 | themill | ZeuZ: yes. That's perfectly true. |
| 18:59.10 | enouf | themill: always? not even the Lenny beta installer always works |
| 18:59.28 | themill | enouf: yeah well... I'm ignoring that sort of mess... |
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| 18:59.49 | enouf | well dang - that's a big what if to ignore :-p |
| 19:00.00 | ZeuZ | themill, Uninstallable? False, format and it´s uninstalled ^_^ |
| 19:00.01 | dutchfish | you can freeze the moments it works quiet easely, so its instalable all the time |
| 19:00.21 | themill | ZeuZ: you've got the negative in the wrong place |
| 19:00.31 | enouf | dutchfish: stop that - we've had enough of your logic! :-p |
| 19:00.44 | ZeuZ | themill, oh, sorry mate |
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| 19:01.01 | enouf | ZeuZ: fix your rectangles man |
| 19:01.07 | enouf | you're killing me here |
| 19:01.09 | themill | ZeuZ: don't worry... english is a damned stupid language and not even the poms can speak it |
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| 19:02.28 | xingu | it's all gone downhill since they stopped having services in latin |
| 19:02.36 | enouf | haha |
| 19:02.50 | dutchfish | enouf, you can roll you rown repo, that is want i meant, sorry if i upsett you |
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| 19:03.07 | dutchfish | enouf, thats not so far fetched |
| 19:03.10 | enouf | dutchfish: omg O_O .. i'm teasing ;-) |
| 19:03.13 | enouf | stop that! |
| 19:03.37 | dutchfish | almost had a hardattack |
| 19:03.52 | enouf | dutchfish: in reality what you said makes perfect sense ... but i thought it'd be fun to flip it on it's head ;-) |
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| 19:04.24 | enouf | dutchfish: heart != hard .. unless you're dead i guess :-P |
| 19:04.37 | dutchfish | enouf, ok, it got ripped out of context, let us conclude that ( i was serious about it) |
| 19:04.49 | enouf | dutchfish: i know ;-) |
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| 19:06.13 | dutchfish | enouf, its alot of work to roll your own, but at least i got a working solution WHEN i nead it, maybe there is a more convinient way? |
| 19:06.17 | enouf | dutchfish: usually when you see a :-P or similar, it's a sign that somehow, what was said, should be considered a bit of a pun, or a metaphor, or sarcastic :-) |
| 19:06.40 | dutchfish | enouf, frankly i dont know what :P means .... |
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| 19:07.05 | enouf | dutchfish: perhaps - i'm too lazy :-) .. and :-P is "stick out tongue" smiley/emoticon |
| 19:07.18 | dutchfish | enouf, ah ... ok |
| 19:07.39 | enouf | dutchfish: many people use all weird forms of that though, like even =p |
| 19:07.51 | dutchfish | enouf, yes, i saw that |
| 19:09.05 | themill | enouf: which is a guy snorting coke ... |
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| 19:09.22 | enouf | shhh!!! |
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| 19:09.53 | enouf | iksnay on the amskray .. sheesh |
| 19:10.19 | sneex | /msg dpkg guidelines |
| 19:10.31 | abrotman | almost |
| 19:10.37 | sneex | :P |
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| 19:10.47 | enouf | fix your rectangles |
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| 19:10.57 | enouf | and drop that crap web chat crap |
| 19:11.04 | abrotman | thinks enouf uses kde |
| 19:11.06 | abrotman | hides |
| 19:11.06 | enouf | er IM thingy |
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| 19:11.55 | enouf | abrotman: kde is the only one capable of showing tabs as boxen? :-P |
| 19:12.53 | dutchfish | xingu, tardus stabilis poema poematis of Linux kernel est: 2.6.25.8 |
| 19:13.05 | abrotman | enouf: answer the question! |
| 19:14.09 | enouf | go back into hiding before i ... |
| 19:14.25 | abrotman | get your own country and do stupid things on the intarweb ? |
| 19:14.32 | enouf | have to explain useless nonsense to nobody who cares :-P |
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| 19:26.01 | mixtank | non related question. what can be done with a VPN except to remote control other comuters over tunnel.... ? |
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| 19:28.16 | sneex | Debian Lenny (and Etch for that matter) recognize and "mirror" my laptop display to an attached monitor -- but what I want is one large desktop spanning both displays -- any ideas? I have been trying various incantations of this http://sneex.pastebin.com/d3d6f15f6 |
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| 19:29.10 | pablo | hi, is debian´s spiral non-free? |
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| 19:30.50 | Fabio_Como | hello, i'm not sure what to choose for my Desktop OS between debian testing or ubuntu8.04, which are the pros and cons of these 2 solutions? thanks |
| 19:31.17 | mixtank | both use the same package system. i see no diffrence to be honest... |
| 19:31.22 | mixtank | im on debian though |
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| 19:32.17 | fnmueller | Fabio_Como: well, you are likely to have to update every six mnth or so with ubuntu |
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| 19:33.27 | dalurka | fnmueller: why would dist-upgrade be harder on ubuntu? |
| 19:33.42 | fnmueller | dalurka: I didn't say that |
| 19:33.43 | mixtank | you just click a button to upgrade in ubuntu |
| 19:33.45 | mixtank | its very easy |
| 19:33.49 | up365 | Fabio_Como, if you pretty much want "fire and forget" use ubuntu |
| 19:33.53 | mixtank | ubuntu is just like windows |
| 19:34.11 | dalurka | not really like windows |
| 19:34.20 | mixtank | eh yeah it is |
| 19:34.21 | mixtank | lol |
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| 19:34.32 | dalurka | mixtank: :P |
| 19:34.35 | sneex | if you want to click and break its a lot like windows |
| 19:34.36 | fnmueller | mixtank: hte ubuntu community is normally filled with ex windows users, so it's probably the best place to start for windows users |
| 19:34.41 | themill | ubuntu upgrades from one release to the next have a reputation for being pretty flakey and usually end up in a reinstall instead |
| 19:34.44 | stanis_sh | hello |
| 19:34.46 | mixtank | but its okey. im not a linux nazi. i run debian/winxp dual boot |
| 19:34.52 | mixtank | both have good and bad sides |
| 19:35.03 | Fabio_Como | i'm not a "very newbie", i'm now using etch on servers |
| 19:35.14 | mixtank | :) |
| 19:35.14 | dalurka | fnmueller: yea and you can really get a lot of relevant help from former windows users |
| 19:35.15 | stanis_sh | did anybody installed ja2 to wine? |
| 19:35.39 | fnmueller | dalurka: but it feels homey ;-), and that generates a good warm feeling in most users |
| 19:35.55 | ZeuZ | hey guys, I commited a mistake... I configured my whole kernel, forgotting to apply one patch, would it be any trouble if I apply it now? |
| 19:36.09 | Fabio_Como | one positive aspect about ubuntu is that, there is a big community, very big web forums and so on. |
| 19:36.09 | fnmueller | Fabio_Como: but if you know debian there probably is no sense in not using testing on a desktop |
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| 19:36.39 | dalurka | Fabio_Como: yea but the forums are full of shit |
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| 19:37.21 | dalurka | to many noobs asking stupid questions because the be bothered to read the previous post |
| 19:37.21 | sneex | Any ideas about a single virtual desktop? --->> http://sneex.pastebin.com/d3d6f15f6 |
| 19:37.30 | Fabio_Como | often i solve debian problems using ubuntu guides, eheh |
| 19:37.40 | Fabio_Como | i mean some configuration stuff |
| 19:37.47 | mixtank | eh i would never use ubuntu but its good for people who want to run linux but only run windows before.... |
| 19:38.05 | dalurka | Fabio_Como: yea sure I'm not saying that the forums are totally useless |
| 19:38.36 | MayerEugen | iam using exim4 / debian etch and my emails are bouncing first from yahoo ( with an 421 ) and then after retrying, they get into the spam folder, while the email should not get any spam-point ( RFC set header, plain etc ) could that be a problem with my DNS setup or somethin similar? |
| 19:38.48 | dalurka | (I use ubuntu myself on a box) |
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| 19:39.11 | Fabio_Como | mixtank i don't think there is a so big difference between debian and ubuntu, ubuntu uses mainly debian code, I think. A very positive aspect for people is that with ubuntu with a 650mb cdrom you can have a full working and useful system, though you have not a internet connection. |
| 19:39.16 | enouf | ZeuZ: haha .. you're funny |
| 19:39.51 | Fabio_Como | about debian i love very much netinstall, when i need to install it in the office, since i have a very quick connection there |
| 19:39.58 | mixtank | Fabio_Como ubuntu is the same as debian because ubuntu uses debians 'package system' *.deb |
| 19:40.01 | fnmueller | Fabio_Como: well, ubuntu has a horrible way of not bringing anything upstream |
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| 19:40.25 | dalurka | MayerEugen: the first bounce could be greylisting |
| 19:40.26 | buntfalke | Are debian binaries shipped already prelinked? No, right? |
| 19:40.31 | Fabio_Como | fnmueller: sorry for my english, what you mean with "not bringing anything upstream" ? |
| 19:40.49 | itchi | Fabio_Como: Take a look to the debian preseed (to automate installs) and apt-cacher (to centralize deb downloads) ;-) |
| 19:40.50 | fnmueller | mixtank: that logic implies that all rpm distributions are fedora like |
| 19:40.56 | MayerEugen | dalurka: yeah ok, but afterward, putting me into spam is quite strange |
| 19:41.12 | fnmueller | Fabio_Como: meaning I see so commits to kernel, driver, any software from the ubuntu side |
| 19:41.31 | mixtank | fnmueller well i just think that the debian package system is the most logical in the linux world.... debian and slackware are the best linux distros iv used to be honest... |
| 19:41.32 | sneex | MayerEugen: is the spam issue Yahoo specific -- can you replicate it using GMail too? |
| 19:41.44 | itchi | Fabio_Como: If some Ubuntu devs do some (good) changes, they don't inform "the right way" |
| 19:42.06 | MayerEugen | sneex: hotmail / jahoo, did not tried GMail |
| 19:42.10 | fnmueller | mixtank: well, but deb and apt are not debian specific. You can use those on any distribution, like you can use rpm in Debian |
| 19:42.33 | mixtank | fnmueller i still think deb packages is the best package system :P |
| 19:42.40 | Fabio_Como | oh ok thank you everyone. |
| 19:42.48 | fnmueller | np |
| 19:42.58 | mixtank | Fabio Como do this: use windowsxp and ubuntu dual boot |
| 19:43.02 | mixtank | have the best of both worlds |
| 19:43.10 | dalurka | MayerEugen: try http://dnsreport.cooltoolonline.com/ |
| 19:43.20 | itchi | mixtank: Use XP in virtual pc's :-p |
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| 19:43.30 | MayerEugen | dalurka: yahoo give me a hint in the docs : http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/postmaster-22.html |
| 19:43.34 | mixtank | itchi lol qemu? |
| 19:43.36 | MayerEugen | dalurka: in the logs i mean |
| 19:44.00 | itchi | mixtank: I use vmware-server (free to use), but virtualbox and qemu are nice too |
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| 19:44.28 | itchi | mixtank: vmware-server is actually the fastest of the three at the moment |
| 19:44.30 | mixtank | itchi i never manged to get vmware to work. so i went with qemu and installed windows micro on it |
| 19:44.31 | fnmueller | hmm, the virtualbox usb support is proprietzry iirc |
| 19:44.50 | agnitio | are there any guides for getting used to aptitudes output when one is used to gentoo? they're quite different, for instance, when performing a dist-upgrade, not all packages are possible to update, and you have to run it several times, why is that? |
| 19:44.51 | Ace2016 | When is debian going to start compiling for i686??? i mean i386 is really really old not isn't it? |
| 19:45.05 | agnitio | and the automagic resolving of conflicting dependencies. |
| 19:45.22 | Fabio_Como | another question: i have a "etch" on a VmWare Server. I had to shrink its image, and I installed "vmware-tools" following the correct procedure. A think that made me mad is that I had to install all the X windows system (on a server machine..) just to use the vmware toolbox for shrinking the image. How is possibile they didn't made a command line software for it? |
| 19:45.26 | dalurka | MayerEugen: but try the dnsreport on your domain |
| 19:45.28 | itchi | mixtank: Running it here without any problem, or maybe just during the install you just need to provide the gcc version: CC=gcc-4.1 ./vmware-install.pl |
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| 19:46.06 | themill | !vmware compiler fix |
| 19:46.07 | dpkg | To solve the vmware compiler problem ("Inappropriate build environment: you wanted to use gcc version 4.2.3 while kernel attempts to use gcc version 4.1.3") in an ugly but effective way: mkdir -p ~/bin; ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.1 ~/bin/gcc; export PATH=~/bin:$PATH; ./vmware-setup.pl; rm ~/bin/gcc |
| 19:46.07 | fnmueller | Fabio_Como: in my vmware workstation I can shrink any image from the options menu |
| 19:46.27 | itchi | Fabio_Como: Cause that vmware-toolbox use gfx libs |
| 19:46.35 | mixtank | itchi yupp well i just think windows in qemu went really slow |
| 19:46.49 | mixtank | so the apps like skype and oovoo laged way to much |
| 19:46.54 | themill | mixtank: with kvm, it's not bad |
| 19:46.54 | itchi | mixtank: You don't use the accelerator? |
| 19:46.56 | mixtank | so i just run linux and windows dual boot now |
| 19:47.02 | Fabio_Como | itchi: exactly.. in fact to shrink my image i had to install X... but on a server machine i'm not interested in installing X... |
| 19:47.06 | mixtank | itchi waht accelerator? |
| 19:47.11 | itchi | mixtank: kqemu |
| 19:47.19 | mixtank | oh yeah i did |
| 19:47.26 | mixtank | otherwize it would be still :P |
| 19:47.29 | Fabio_Como | fnmueller: i think the free vmware server has not the shrink option from the hosting machine |
| 19:47.31 | MayerEugen | dalurka: Reverse for the nameserver IP address doesn't match AND Address is not listed on the bogon list |
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| 19:48.06 | fnmueller | Fabio_Como: did you ever try vmshrink |
| 19:48.07 | fnmueller | ? |
| 19:48.41 | itchi | Well, i never used that shrink |
| 19:48.43 | Fabio_Como | fnmueller: no.. i used vmware-toolbox |
| 19:48.49 | dalurka | MayerEugen: the reverse may trigger some stuff |
| 19:48.49 | fnmueller | Fabio_Como: http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vmtools.html#vmshrink |
| 19:49.14 | Fabio_Como | thanks, i bookmark it |
| 19:49.14 | MayerEugen | dalurka: yeah i use this for spam detection too. A idea how to fix that ? |
| 19:49.14 | itchi | Still have 277G for my vmware stuff |
| 19:49.59 | dalurka | use your real hostname |
| 19:50.24 | mixtank | any1 here into vpn? |
| 19:50.46 | fnmueller | Fabio_Como: also check out vmware-vdiskmanager -d fragmented-disk.vmdk |
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| 19:51.14 | fnmueller | ohh and I just discovered vmware-vdiskmanger -k |
| 19:51.17 | dalurka | MayerEugen: But I must say that I'm not sure in that this is your problem |
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| 19:51.33 | Fabio_Como | thanks |
| 19:52.20 | Fabio_Como | mixtank: i don't know vpn, but often you can do almost the same with ssh tunnelling |
| 19:52.51 | mixtank | Fabio_Como yeah VPN is a private secure internet tunnel |
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| 19:53.59 | Fabio_Como | i mean, that if you have external access just on a "public" machine of the intranet, you can ssh to that box, and with tunnelling you can reach passing through that box the other pc in that intranet |
| 19:54.41 | mixtank | ok but how to surf HTTP with it? |
| 19:54.43 | mixtank | 8) |
| 19:54.49 | mixtank | or do VoIP? |
| 19:54.51 | mixtank | IRC? |
| 19:55.39 | fnmueller | mixtank: links, irssi, ... |
| 19:55.49 | Fabio_Como | you need to exit from a closed intranet or to enter in a closed intranet? |
| 19:56.22 | mixtank | i mean via the VPN |
| 19:57.03 | abrotman | like any normal network .. the trick is setting up the VPN |
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| 19:58.20 | Fabio_Como | about irc, with ssh tunnelling, you can forward a XXX port of your local machine to a remote YYY port of the IRC server passing through the ssh server. |
| 19:58.52 | Fabio_Como | you'll setup your irc client to connect to localhost:XXX |
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| 20:02.54 | Fabio_Como | thank you everyone i leave |
| 20:02.55 | Fabio_Como | see yuo |
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| 20:04.54 | _overflow_ | Hi, Is everything Ok with lenny gcc version update? I didn't want to dist-upgrade because of that. |
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| 20:09.01 | assasukasse | hi, i need to backup my whole /home, following all the symlinks ... if i use midnight commander what option should i give? |
| 20:09.21 | magyar_ | hi, looking for php5-ffmpeg for etch. Where could I get this package? |
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| 20:11.13 | tcltk | hello, about freenx: it opens the session but suddenly closes it with a ilogical message: the connection with the remote server was shut down |
| 20:11.23 | tcltk | ssh is working ok, verified |
| 20:11.31 | tcltk | and nxserver --usercheck also works |
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| 20:12.48 | enouf | magyar_: does bpo have it? |
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| 20:13.38 | enouf | assasukasse: rsync -a /home /somewhere/else |
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| 20:16.20 | assasukasse | enouf: this backups my whole dir following symlinks and preserving attributes? |
| 20:17.27 | magyar_ | enouf, bpo <<backport? is there a repo? |
| 20:17.33 | enouf | assasukasse: not sure about it following symlinks .. i wouldn't want that myself, but man rsync |
| 20:17.39 | Fabio_Como | i missed to ask another question, what's teh best debian book? i am mainly interested to work with command line on server environment, and i'm not interested at all in GUI |
| 20:17.44 | enouf | !bpo |
| 20:17.45 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update |
| 20:18.32 | magyar_ | ding!.... thanks enouf |
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| 20:18.41 | magyar_ | !beer |
| 20:18.41 | dpkg | beer is probably liquid gold mate |
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| 20:18.54 | themill | dpkg: tell Fabio_Como about debian system |
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| 20:19.58 | enouf | ahh .. cold refreshing ;-) |
| 20:20.05 | Fabio_Como | tnx |
| 20:20.18 | magyar_ | -_- |
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| 20:23.18 | magyar_ | enouf, no luck, the package exists for lenny but cant install on etch due to libc compatibilities |
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| 20:23.43 | EE_BB | hii all do you know any usefull web address about aptitude specially talking about gui |
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| 20:24.32 | Buck | hai |
| 20:24.42 | Buck | how can I get a list of IPs that logged in on a specific account? |
| 20:24.47 | miksuh | EE_BB: eh? i didn't quite understand what you mean |
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| 20:25.25 | enouf | magyar_: ahh .. so sowwy ;-P |
| 20:25.34 | NeoLobst1r | Can anyone tell me where there's a working snapshot mirror? I need an old package. |
| 20:25.42 | stew | Buck: 'last username' |
| 20:25.59 | enouf | NeoLobst1r: see sdn ? |
| 20:26.10 | NeoLobst1r | enouf: what? |
| 20:26.13 | enouf | NeoLobst1r: /msg dpkg sdn |
| 20:26.17 | NeoLobst1r | oh, okay |
| 20:26.28 | Buck | thank you stew |
| 20:26.34 | enouf | NeoLobst1r: and /msg dpkg ado |
| 20:26.39 | magyar_ | takes his empty can of Heineken back |
| 20:26.40 | miksuh | EE_BB: hm ah, nevermind, you mean help for using aptituides gui.. |
| 20:26.48 | itchi | What was that dpkg's factoid about deleted config files? I need to get back a config file with aptitude install that is manually deleted |
| 20:26.50 | miksuh | don't know any sites.. |
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| 20:27.07 | enouf | mugs magyar_ with a mug |
| 20:27.28 | EE_BB | miksuh: I need a website about aptitude that has information about aptitude gui for example how can I install a package via aptitude gui or search or what is the mean "p" or "u" flags that adjacent package name |
| 20:27.33 | magyar_ | themill, how do you use "tell" with dpkg for other users? |
| 20:27.35 | EE_BB | is this clear ?? |
| 20:27.38 | enouf | itchi: confmiss |
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| 20:28.11 | miksuh | EE_BB: yep :) |
| 20:28.11 | stew | EE_BB: /usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en in the aptitude-doc-en package |
| 20:28.13 | themill | magyar_: erm... I have no idea what you mean. |
| 20:28.15 | magyar_ | enouf, I found some compiled debs for etch, but dont know if the source is good |
| 20:28.22 | enouf | !tell itchi -about confmiss |
| 20:28.25 | itchi | enouf: He don't get it too :-( Tried already some values like this |
| 20:28.43 | magyar_ | themill, "dpkg: tell Fabio_Como about debian system" |
| 20:28.45 | enouf | magyar_: no idea |
| 20:28.46 | itchi | enouf: Ah cool, now it's ok, cool, thanks! |
| 20:29.00 | enouf | itchi: ;-) |
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| 20:29.23 | themill | magyar_: ummm just like that. tell <nick> about <factoid> There's not much else to it. |
| 20:29.28 | enouf | magyar_: you can use dpkg or use a ! |
| 20:29.34 | jdahm | how can I print to a wireless printer in debian? what package/command do I run to set it up? |
| 20:29.43 | jdahm | or rather, network printer |
| 20:30.11 | themill | dpkg: tell jdahm about cupsys |
| 20:30.12 | magyar_ | themill, bahh, I keep /msg -ing the bot and it keeps telling me to "get a life" |
| 20:30.21 | enouf | haha |
| 20:30.22 | Jygga | hi, got some problems with etch installation and a sata drive (ich9...) any workarounds known for that? read a lot about a new sata driver in the newest etch kernel that bugs with ich9 (?) |
| 20:30.30 | enouf | are you on crack?! |
| 20:30.30 | stew | magyar_: you are probably asking the bot about stuff it doesn't know about, then |
| 20:30.48 | enouf | magyar_: /msg dpkg listvals <keyword> |
| 20:30.56 | themill | magyar_: heh... if you're msging the bot, then just us the factoid name. You don't need any tell+about or anything like that. |
| 20:31.02 | magyar_ | enouf, i like "themill's" aproach, it nice and clean |
| 20:31.04 | stew | Jygga: you can try an etch installer with a newer kernel: /msg dpkg etchnhalf ; or /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 20:31.10 | enouf | magyar_: for? |
| 20:31.47 | magyar_ | enouf, "!" spews shiat on the main channel |
| 20:31.54 | Jygga | hm okay thanks stanis_sh |
| 20:31.57 | Jygga | err stew |
| 20:32.01 | enouf | magyar_: no it doesn't |
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| 20:32.19 | magyar_ | !php5-ffmpeg |
| 20:32.19 | enouf | !tell magyar_ -about msg the bot |
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| 20:32.45 | dimir | hogy vagy |
| 20:33.01 | themill | magyar_: the bot doesn't know anything about php5-ffmpeg. No-one has told it anything about it yet. |
| 20:33.30 | enouf | magyar_: i meant when using the bot to "tell <someone> about <factoid>" i could prefix that with dpkg or i could simply use a ! |
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| 20:33.36 | twobitwork | why does it seem like aptitude is getting slower at searching an installing |
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| 20:34.12 | enouf | magyar_: if you haven't put it together yet, the ! at the beginning of a line is the trigger |
| 20:35.29 | enouf | magyar_: but what comes directly after has to be something in the db, and dpkg is, as well as 'tell' which i'm sure links to dpkg .. i mean one could also use ! to call !ops .. got it? |
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| 20:35.47 | Jemt | I'm trying to install the NVidia driver (official). It complain about that the Kernel Source Tree is not installed. I did install both 'linux-souce-2.6.18' and 'linux-tree-2.6.18'. Suggestions ? |
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| 20:37.32 | enouf | magyar_: the - in -about keeps it from spewing shite to me in PM (since i know what the factoid says, i don't need to see it most times) |
| 20:37.50 | enouf | now .. where's my keg! |
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| 20:37.54 | magyar_ | enouf, yeap, i got it |
| 20:38.14 | magyar_ | !beer enouf |
| 20:38.15 | dpkg | pulls out a fine Piraat for enouf |
| 20:38.28 | enouf | ahh .. cold refreshing ;-) |
| 20:38.34 | magyar_ | eheheh |
| 20:39.11 | magyar_ | dimir, kosz , te? |
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| 20:41.51 | Jemt | Ah, I needed the linux-headers package |
| 20:42.21 | tcltk | about freenx: it opens the session but suddenly closes it with a ilogical message: the connection with the remote server was shut down |
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| 20:47.32 | magyar_ | anyone is using "dotdeb.org" repo? Is it safe? |
| 20:47.52 | abrotman | don't use those |
| 20:48.18 | themill | magyar_: don't go there if you want to be able to upgrade your machine later |
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| 20:48.50 | magyar_ | bahh, how do i get php5-ffmpeg on etch? |
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| 20:49.50 | themill | magyar_: you could try making your own backport. Don't know how easy it will be (I suspect hard), but /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 20:52.12 | adama | what's this mean? ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted |
| 20:53.47 | stew | adama: either that ping is no longer suid root, or that you have a firewall rule disallowing the ping packet |
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| 20:56.02 | Dr-knoK | hi |
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| 20:57.07 | magyar_ | themill, "unable to find source for $package" I seem to see the source "lenny" at "lftp ftp.us.debian.org:/debian/pool/main/f/ffmpeg-php/" |
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| 20:57.37 | adama | hmm |
| 20:57.57 | magyar_ | adama, user has no rights to ping |
| 20:57.58 | themill | magyar_: can you pastebin your sources.list? |
| 20:58.08 | Jemt | I have just set up the NVidia driver on one computer. Is it possible to copy the driver to another computer? |
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| 20:58.23 | Jemt | .. I don't want to install the compiler, source tree etc. on all my computers |
| 20:58.29 | adama | it happens when running as root, it might be iptables though |
| 20:58.54 | stew | adama: then yes, its likely iptables |
| 20:59.46 | magyar_ | themill, http://pastebin.ca/1054286 |
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| 21:00.01 | magyar_ | pastebin.com is telling me I am spamming |
| 21:00.57 | magyar_ | adama, nic is up? |
| 21:01.35 | adama | I'm trying to troubleshoot a weird VPN system |
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| 21:02.09 | PriitM | haha, 150 000 lines of xorg.log about open acpi failed ;> |
| 21:02.14 | stew | if the problem was that the nic wasn't up, the error would be "Network is unreachable", not "Operation not permitted" |
| 21:02.52 | themill | magyar_: you don't have a deb-src line for lenny or sid in your sources.list anywhere. you need something like: deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ lenny main contrib non-fre |
| 21:03.18 | stew | themill: deb-src ? |
| 21:03.24 | themill | gah |
| 21:03.32 | themill | magyar_: you don't have a deb-src line for lenny or sid in your sources.list anywhere. you need something like: deb-src http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ lenny main contrib non-fre |
| 21:03.39 | themill | magyar_: (not a deb line) |
| 21:03.45 | stew | non-fre? :P |
| 21:03.50 | themill | ffs |
| 21:03.55 | themill | !beer stew |
| 21:03.56 | dpkg | pours a quart of Yuengling Lager for stew |
| 21:04.05 | stew | !fewer beers themill |
| 21:04.11 | themill | now now |
| 21:04.26 | magyar_ | themill, i got that, thx, the issue is I am on etch, will it still work? |
| 21:04.28 | adama | gateway: 192.168.2.1 internal, ADSL IP#1 external, default gateway for entire 192.168.2.* LAN, running ipmasq. Smoothwall: 192.168.2.21 internal, ADSL IP#2 external, with a VPN to remote office LAN 192.168.9.* |
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| 21:04.55 | themill | magyar_: that's the point; it allows you to download source code from lenny (or sid) and then compile it for use in etch. |
| 21:04.56 | pinnen | I get this error, "dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received.;dhclient: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping." and there's nothing wrong with the dhcp-server, tried many different nic's, tried two different motherboards with the same harddrives/debian system, so it has to be something on the debian system ? I have tried dhcpcd as my second dhcp-client, but that didn't work eighter. What could be the problem? |
| 21:05.19 | magyar_ | bows to themill |
| 21:05.26 | magyar_ | thanks |
| 21:05.28 | stew | pinnen: bad cable? do you get a link light? |
| 21:05.34 | themill | magyar_: no worries |
| 21:05.55 | pinnen | stew: tried many different cables |
| 21:05.56 | G-- | does anyone here have experience with Debian + vsftpd? |
| 21:06.04 | G-- | since it causing MAJOR PROBLEMS! |
| 21:06.11 | pinnen | stew: nothing wrong with the cables, they're brand new :-) |
| 21:06.25 | adama | gateway:~# route -n shows 192.168.9.0 192.168.2.21 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 eth2 (added by me) |
| 21:06.38 | adama | not sure what iptables is doing |
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| 21:06.50 | G-- | does anyone? |
| 21:06.59 | G-- | I've been bashing at this problem almost all day |
| 21:07.13 | Jygga | stew looks like it works with ide controller in compatible mode (currently partitioning) |
| 21:07.31 | Jygga | just fyi :) |
| 21:07.39 | G-- | does anyone have experience with Debian plus VSFTPD? |
| 21:07.43 | stew | adama: show us the output of "iptables -L OUTPUT -n" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 21:07.56 | stew | G--: lots of people. just ask your question |
| 21:08.00 | G-- | ok |
| 21:08.06 | G-- | when I add a new user |
| 21:08.12 | G-- | I cannot upload to any dir |
| 21:08.16 | G-- | via that user |
| 21:08.24 | G-- | I can only upload to my home dir |
| 21:08.28 | G-- | with the original user |
| 21:08.31 | stew | !tell G-- about enter |
| 21:08.34 | G-- | made via the setup |
| 21:08.55 | G-- | ok, sorry |
| 21:09.04 | stew | G--: what does "ls -ld /path/to/dir" say for one of the directories you are trying to upload to and cannot |
| 21:09.10 | G-- | I am just so worn out about it, and want to get it working |
| 21:09.22 | themill | G--: you were trying to chroot the users weren't you? |
| 21:09.22 | magyar_ | themill, worked like a dream, i got php5-ffmpeg installed |
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| 21:09.27 | hardon | does anyone no how to setup a fast config for vpn? |
| 21:09.37 | themill | magyar_: excellent. Have fun with it. |
| 21:09.47 | stew | hardon: what do you mean by "fast config"? |
| 21:09.51 | G-- | I can upload only in my home dir with the user I made via the setup |
| 21:09.57 | G-- | even when it is not chrooted |
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| 21:10.41 | adama | stew: http://pastebin.ca/1054324 |
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| 21:10.55 | hardon2 | like someone gave me a ling that created a php script for iptables im wondering if there is something like that for open vpn |
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| 21:11.08 | G-- | is it normal that I can only upload to my home dir? |
| 21:11.15 | stew | G--: yes |
| 21:11.21 | G-- | ok then |
| 21:11.29 | G-- | is there a way to disable that? |
| 21:11.32 | stew | G--: unless you have given permissions somewhere else |
| 21:12.27 | stew | G--: by changing the permissions of some directory you are trying to allow uploads to |
| 21:12.28 | G-- | ok |
| 21:12.28 | adama | stew: (it has a lot of interfaces) |
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| 21:12.28 | G-- | but changing the chmod doesnt work |
| 21:12.28 | tcltk | ok i have this http://rafb.net/p/WryZRh98.html but i am not runing any proxy or similar |
| 21:12.34 | Jygga | adama www.aboutdebian.org/network.html |
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| 21:12.55 | Jygga | sry |
| 21:12.56 | Jygga | http://www.aboutdebian.com/network.htm |
| 21:14.08 | G-- | stew, this is what it says |
| 21:14.09 | G-- | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-06-23 23:13 hlds |
| 21:14.12 | stew | adama: yeah, your OUTPUT defaults to DROP, and you have no rule overriding this for packets going to 192.168.9.0/24 |
| 21:14.21 | G-- | that is what ls -ld says |
| 21:14.27 | stew | G--: yes, so only root has permission to alter that directory |
| 21:14.46 | G-- | aha |
| 21:14.54 | stew | G--: http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions ; you'll probably want to also find some basic reference on unix filesystem permissions |
| 21:14.59 | G-- | how cna I change that? |
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| 21:17.16 | G-- | ok, that is awesome |
| 21:17.18 | G-- | thanks! |
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| 21:17.30 | G-- | I think that we have my problem there |
| 21:18.05 | G-- | or maybe not |
| 21:18.20 | G-- | that permission code is the same as my 1st user |
| 21:18.32 | G-- | user's home directory where I can upload stuff in |
| 21:18.43 | G-- | so that cannot be it, I think.. |
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| 21:18.53 | G-- | or am I wrong, stew? |
| 21:19.05 | ay^_ | hmm I'm having this wierd problem editing my menus. If I right click on, say, "Applications" and choose "Edit menus" the opening main menu will appear, and then shut down. If I on the other hand tries the command "alacarte" in command prompt there will be an error given that I don't have enough permission to edit ~/.config/menus/gnome-applications.menu so I then try "sudo alacarte" and that works, but the changes I make, won't |
| 21:19.11 | stew | G--: show me the output of "ls -ld /home/whomever" |
| 21:19.34 | G-- | ok |
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| 21:19.49 | G-- | drwxr-xr-x 2 gamer gamer 4096 2008-06-23 22:21 gamer |
| 21:19.59 | G-- | that is the 1st user I made, with the setup |
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| 21:20.14 | stew | G--: that one is owned by the user "gamer" so the user gamer and the root user can alter that directory |
| 21:20.17 | G-- | if I login with that username into the ftp, I can upload in that home dir |
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| 21:20.22 | G-- | ah |
| 21:20.31 | G-- | ah, you're right |
| 21:20.49 | george___ | Hello, I've installed fluxbuntu on an acer satellite pro A120 I input my uname and password the screen flashes and gets me back to the login window again. ive made sure that my login details are corrent, i manage to boot into root and try to startx but same thing there.. |
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| 21:21.13 | G-- | how can I change that user then? |
| 21:21.27 | stew | G--: the owner of a file/directory you mean? |
| 21:21.29 | george___ | i reckon its an Xorg problem or ATI radeon xpress 200M, can some1 assist me ? |
| 21:21.34 | G-- | yeah! |
| 21:21.38 | stew | G--: with chown |
| 21:21.43 | G-- | aha |
| 21:22.08 | stew | george___: you should be asking in a channel specific to fluxbuntu, we only support debian here |
| 21:22.11 | Bushmills | george___: there is no debian installation disk by the name of "fluxbuntu" |
| 21:22.20 | G-- | now it is hlds root |
| 21:22.27 | G-- | lets see if it works |
| 21:22.31 | george___ | im on the fluxbuntu channel but no1 provides help |
| 21:22.45 | george___ | ubuntu is a deb based distro isnt it ? |
| 21:22.48 | Bushmills | george___: http://debian.org that's where you can get proper install images |
| 21:23.19 | stew | george___: sorry. perhaps try a fluxbuntu mailing list or a fluxbuntu web forum. ubuntu is based on debian, yes. we also don't support ubuntu here. you can get help with ubuntu in #ubuntu |
| 21:23.48 | george___ | stew: i did try there as well.. |
| 21:24.18 | ay^_ | okej, just a quicky then, what output do you get from "ls -lH ~/.config" considering the owner of "menus" ? |
| 21:24.24 | G-- | ok, it is working now, stew! |
| 21:24.33 | G-- | I still have one question left though |
| 21:24.34 | ay^_ | is it really supposed to be root? |
| 21:25.19 | G-- | at the gamer directory you see: gamer gamer, and now I did chown on the hlds dir and now it says hlds root, what does the second user stand for? |
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| 21:25.47 | stew | G--: the group owner |
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| 21:26.50 | Bushmills | ay^_: no, files in your home dir should generally be yours |
| 21:26.58 | G-- | ah, ok |
| 21:27.30 | ay^_ | Bushmills: thanks for confirming that.. now all I need to figure out is why it's become root-owned |
| 21:27.52 | G-- | thanks a ton, stew! |
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| 21:28.20 | G-- | they couldnt help me with this problem on the official channel: #vsftpd |
| 21:28.23 | nick_fn | Hi. Is there a way to have dpkg (or something else?) tell me which conf-files have been edited on a Debian 4.0r3 machine, so they differ from the package maintainer's version? |
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| 21:32.11 | stew | nick_fn: debsusms has an option to only tell you about conffiles |
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| 21:32.43 | stew | nick_fn: but note it would probably only tell you about conffiles and not all configuration files |
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| 21:33.06 | nick_fn | I think that's probably the best I can expect for now? |
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| 21:33.13 | aHTu4aJlrap | please join in #Forbbiden |
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| 21:33.39 | stew | nick_fn: yes |
| 21:34.14 | dogfrog | I see, I can fetch source packages by 'apt-get source pkgname'. Is there a way to achieve that from within aptitude too? |
| 21:34.42 | nick_fn | stew: that works well, thanks. |
| 21:34.51 | themill | dogfrog: no |
| 21:35.01 | nick_fn | now I wonder how to compare it with the package to get a diff... |
| 21:35.02 | stew | nick_fn: you might also check if there is a way to find out about the files maintained by ucf |
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| 21:36.19 | nick_fn | ah, ucf, thanks. I wondered what did that... |
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| 21:38.29 | dogfrog | themill: thanks. Does that imply that I can remove the apt-get'ed source files without breaking anything, like any dependencies? |
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| 21:39.11 | themill | dogfrog: the source is just dumped in your current directory and you are free to do with it want you want as any user you want. |
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| 21:40.22 | CristianCT46 | hi! |
| 21:40.25 | cb3rob2 | themill: apart from selling it as your own product |
| 21:40.37 | themill | yeah well... |
| 21:40.46 | ay^ | but you can still sell it, right? |
| 21:40.52 | cb3rob2 | you just gave him a license to do so :P |
| 21:40.55 | pickcoder | cb3rob2: if it's public domain you can sell it if you want |
| 21:41.08 | pickcoder | depends on the license |
| 21:41.16 | cb3rob2 | if it's public domain it's unlikely to be apt-get'able :P |
| 21:41.42 | dogfrog | themill: thanks for that |
| 21:41.43 | ay^ | so I can't sell irssi on cds? |
| 21:41.49 | twobitwork | isn't dc pubdomain? |
| 21:42.01 | cb3rob2 | ay: no you can sell cd's with irssi on them :P |
| 21:42.01 | themill | cb3rob2: not true |
| 21:42.02 | pickcoder | ay^: depends on the license. the GPL allows for media cost reimbursement |
| 21:42.40 | ay^ | cb3rob2: ;P pickcoder mkay. |
| 21:42.44 | cb3rob2 | 'media cost' ofcourse includes your offices, villas and some 20000 employees to produce them for you :P |
| 21:42.52 | ay^ | haha |
| 21:42.57 | ay^ | of course |
| 21:42.58 | helo | how can debian help me get beer? |
| 21:43.09 | themill | !beer helo |
| 21:43.10 | dpkg | deftly decants a fine Yuengling Lager for helo |
| 21:43.11 | helo | or scotch |
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| 21:43.27 | Bushmills | gpl doesn't limit sales price. whether media or program |
| 21:43.28 | cb3rob2 | helo: you can use it to google for your local delivery service |
| 21:43.31 | pickcoder | helo: run a booze store on it |
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| 21:44.07 | pickcoder | just don't do system upgrades while enjoying the inventory |
| 21:44.08 | helo | ahhh... deliver service... |
| 21:44.25 | helo | that will have to do for now... cheers! |
| 21:44.32 | themill | Bushmills: check section 6b of GPL3. |
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| 21:45.36 | Jemt | Is the "GeForce 6800" graphic card included in the "GeForce6 class" cards ? I have an onboard GeForce6 class gfx card on my Asrock motherboard - not sure whether it's supported by the Debian NVidia package though |
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| 21:46.35 | ec_ | Jemt: are you sure the geforce 6800 is onboard? |
| 21:46.57 | wols_ | 6800 is never onboard |
| 21:47.03 | wols_ | and yes it's a gf6 |
| 21:47.04 | tcltk | if someone want know, i have found my problem |
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| 21:47.10 | tcltk | AFTER 17 hours |
| 21:47.14 | wols_ | your asrock is a shity gf6100 or 6150 |
| 21:47.20 | Bushmills | themill: "Conveying Non-Source Forms" |
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| 21:47.49 | Jemt | ec_: Yes. And the 6800 was just an example. All I know is that my card is "GeForce6 class" |
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| 21:48.45 | Jygga | hi again, i got 3 NICs in this server and each has a subnet attached, then there is another NIC that is connected to a printer. Id like to enable all subnets to connect to the printer but not each other. Should i read more about network bridges or should i focus on iptable configuration ? |
| 21:48.46 | Bushmills | themill: but indeed the gplv3 is more explicit concerning price limiting |
| 21:48.53 | themill | yes |
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| 21:51.55 | hipodilski | Hi guys. I have problems with having multiple sound streams at the same time how can I fix that? |
| 21:51.57 | Bushmills | themill: ah ..wrong. that describes mereley the requirement to deliver sources, for "reasonable" fee ... doesn't say anything about limit to price of object code |
| 21:52.02 | hipodilski | I'm using ubuntu lenny |
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| 21:52.20 | hipodilski | my sound card is Intel Corporation 82801H |
| 21:52.23 | Bushmills | hipodilski: why should we know? |
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| 21:52.42 | hipodilski | Bushmills: you shouldn't but you may? :) |
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| 21:53.21 | Bushmills | hipodilski: i guess chances are better on a channel which supports the distribution you are using |
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| 21:53.32 | CristianCT46 | having a 64bit processor, is better to install the AMD64 version or the i386? |
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| 21:53.46 | ras | hey |
| 21:53.47 | themill | Bushmills: true. it never has. But we were talking about source. |
| 21:53.53 | ras | is there a french debian room ? |
| 21:54.03 | Bushmills | !fr |
| 21:54.04 | dpkg | i heard fr is Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 21:54.15 | ras | i'm tired i don't want to speak english tonight ><' |
| 21:54.18 | CristianCT46 | !it |
| 21:54.19 | hipodilski | Bushmills: I'm using debian |
| 21:54.19 | dpkg | #debian-it is probably Ciao! Utilizzi prego #debian-it per aiuto Italiano-orientato. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 21:54.21 | ras | thaks :) |
| 21:54.41 | Bushmills | hipodilski: that was a quick reboot |
| 21:54.42 | hipodilski | testing/unstable (lenny) |
| 21:55.03 | Bushmills | because a minute ago you weren't |
| 21:55.41 | hipodilski | Bushmills: oh now I see I have made a mistake above i said ubuntu sorry |
| 21:55.47 | hipodilski | you know there is no such animal as ubuntu lenny |
| 21:55.57 | hipodilski | what I meant was debian lenny |
| 21:55.59 | hipodilski | :) |
| 21:56.08 | wols_ | hipodilski: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 21:56.47 | hipodilski | wols_: ii libc6 2.7-10 |
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| 21:57.02 | stew | hipodilski: are you using alsa? what exactly is the problem with playing multiple streams? |
| 21:57.09 | hipodilski | yes I forgot I'm using the amd64 debian build |
| 21:57.18 | hipodilski | stew: yes I'm using alsa |
| 21:57.40 | stew | hipodilski: what happens when you try to play two streams at once? |
| 21:57.58 | hipodilski | stew: well the problem is for example I have an mpg321 instance playing mp3 and at the same time I try to play an xm file with mikmod and mikmod doesn't play it |
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| 21:59.42 | hipodilski | actually when I try to play two instances of mpg321 there is this error occuring |
| 22:00.04 | Bushmills | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.28 | hipodilski | ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:1494:(_snd_pcm_direct_get_slave_ipc_offset) Invalid value for card |
| 22:00.59 | hipodilski | here is the full error |
| 22:01.02 | hipodilski | http://pastebin.ca/1054522 |
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| 22:01.47 | stew | is dmix not enabled by default yet? |
| 22:01.51 | stew | !dmix |
| 22:01.52 | dpkg | [dmix] an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 22:02.28 | abrotman | no |
| 22:03.41 | Eulex | eh, it is |
| 22:03.44 | hipodilski | ok I have .asoundrc in my home directory ~/.asoundrc |
| 22:03.51 | Eulex | since before etch if I'm not mistaken |
| 22:04.03 | hipodilski | I have copy pasted the content from http://img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf |
| 22:04.11 | hipodilski | still no simultaneous sound |
| 22:04.15 | hipodilski | ? |
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| 22:06.08 | Eulex | hipodilski, note that all apps that use the sound card must go through the alsa api. |
| 22:06.25 | Eulex | if one instead goes through the oss api, other apps won't be able to play any sound |
| 22:06.45 | Eulex | and likewise, if alsa apps are playing sound, apps going through the oss api won't be able to |
| 22:07.00 | PhrkOnLsh | I just upgraded virtualbox and virtualbox-modules-2.6.24-1-686 and now virtualbox is complaining that the driver version doesn't match teh virtualbox version. Has anyone else encountered this?? |
| 22:07.25 | hipodilski | dunno but it's pretty dumb creating virtual sound channels in bsd is so simple that you only set a variable in sysctl ... |
| 22:07.51 | Eulex | in linux it's supposed to 'just work' |
| 22:07.53 | hipodilski | why is linux so garbled |
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| 22:08.06 | Eulex | if none of the apps use deprecated apis, that is |
| 22:08.15 | hipodilski | Eulex: yes btw in most of the times on pcs I had linux this feature wasn't working |
| 22:08.17 | abrotman | we replaced a simple/broken sound system with a complicated/broken one! :) |
| 22:09.44 | Eulex | hipodilski, historically, apps have been set to use the oss api by default... |
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| 22:10.59 | hipodilski | Eulex: ok how can I know whic app exactly can be eventually using it |
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| 22:11.42 | ma3x | how do i pick up the color code from a website in iceweasel? |
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| 22:12.05 | Eulex | hipodilski, that differs from app to app. some have a setting for it. some use for example gstreamer, which means that you'll have to to configure gstreamer to use alsa by default |
| 22:12.25 | abrotman | ma3x: multiple ways .. "easiest" take a screen shot .. go into gimp and use the dropper |
| 22:12.30 | stew | hipodilski: "fuser /dev/dsp" will list applications currently using the oss interface |
| 22:13.10 | hipodilski | stew: well it seems nothings is using /dev/dsp |
| 22:13.38 | hipodilski | still I can't run two instances of mpg321 and have 2 or more sound channels |
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| 22:14.48 | hipodilski | maybe mikmod is using oss? |
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| 22:15.45 | Bushmills | hipodilski: i just tried it with mpg321 defaults here, and both instances play |
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| 22:16.06 | Flooaglomb | Is there no way to recursively move a folder with sftp? |
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| 22:16.28 | hipodilski | Bushmills: yes I just figured it out with .asoundrc and two mpg321 there is sound of the two streams |
| 22:16.47 | Bushmills | Flooaglomb: scp can, -r |
| 22:16.51 | hipodilski | but still while one of the 3 mpg321 is playing skype doesn't support calls |
| 22:16.57 | hipodilski | and stuff .. |
| 22:17.01 | dondelelcaro | Flooaglomb: you're really better of using rsync, though. |
| 22:17.24 | Bushmills | hipodilski: 1.3 skype should support alsa, 1.2 doesn't |
| 22:17.40 | hipodilski | Bushmills: I'm using skype 2.0 |
| 22:17.41 | Bushmills | (and needs some setup somewhere) |
| 22:17.54 | Bushmills | skype defaulted to oss in the past |
| 22:18.50 | Bushmills | not sure about current versions - not used skype since 1.2/1.3 |
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| 22:19.51 | pickcoder | libasound2 according to the page |
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| 22:20.09 | pickcoder | 1.0.12 min |
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| 22:28.50 | Bushmills | fas3r: dig -x. or host |
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| 22:33.30 | agur | I've installed alsa, run alsaconf without any errors, lsmod tells me the correct modules are loaded, I've adjusted the volume levels with alsamixer, but I still can't get audio to work. Does anyone have any suggestions? |
| 22:33.57 | feitingen | cat /proc/asond/cards |
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| 22:34.53 | feitingen | agur: what card/module are you using? |
| 22:35.16 | agur | ich6 |
| 22:35.35 | agur | snd_intel8x0 |
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| 22:36.12 | agur | feitingen: 0 [ICH6 ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH6 |
| 22:36.13 | agur | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.43 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 22:36.44 | dpkg | 1) run alsaconf as root 2) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 3) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 8) does "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. |
| 22:36.51 | feitingen | wow, almost same card as me |
| 22:36.59 | Phase | Is there a way to get the total filesize of every file in a folder? Something like ls -ldah * .. except it automagically totals it for me. |
| 22:37.02 | cwraig | hi all, sorry to be a pain, i have been updating my ssh keys & it worked fine on most machines but on one it keeps regenerating blacklisted keys (etch, updated 24hours ago) any ideas? |
| 22:37.19 | feitingen | Phase: man du |
| 22:37.31 | Phase | feitingen, Thanks. |
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| 22:38.30 | agur | abrotman: All done |
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| 22:38.42 | abrotman | done? |
| 22:38.55 | agur | Yes, done all of those steps, still no sound |
| 22:39.40 | feitingen | agur: check plugs? |
| 22:39.53 | agur | Done |
| 22:39.57 | abrotman | that was step 6) |
| 22:40.04 | feitingen | ah |
| 22:40.27 | abrotman | agur: you didn't really give us the results of the tests .. does say .. #8 work ? |
| 22:40.37 | agur | The pc-speaker works, which for some reason is connected to the audio output so I get it on my speakers |
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| 22:42.08 | agur | abrotman: Okay, I forgot step 8. It doesn't give any results |
| 22:42.21 | abrotman | errors? |
| 22:42.23 | abrotman | mesages? |
| 22:42.25 | abrotman | sounds? |
| 22:42.38 | agur | No, nothing as in just loads |
| 22:42.38 | abrotman | it runs ? |
| 22:42.39 | agur | Yes, but nothing happens |
| 22:42.47 | agur | No sound, no errors, nothing |
| 22:42.50 | abrotman | okay .. step #3 ? |
| 22:43.03 | abrotman | so you didn't actually do all the steps ? |
| 22:43.04 | agur | Done |
| 22:43.19 | agur | Yes I did, I just forgot 9 |
| 22:43.20 | agur | 8* |
| 22:43.25 | agur | I had done most of them beforehand |
| 22:43.37 | abrotman | and the arts and esd ? |
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| 22:43.49 | abrotman | unless you're on sarge .. ich6 shuld work |
| 22:44.06 | abrotman | you could try a newer kernel/alsa |
| 22:44.10 | agur | I know, it worked untill aptitude removed almost everything on my system |
| 22:44.19 | abrotman | you left that out |
| 22:44.50 | agur | Yeah, but I spent 3 hours noting down everything that was uninstalled and reinstalled them with apt-get |
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| 22:45.40 | abrotman | agur: give us the full output of uname -a |
| 22:45.45 | abrotman | or /proc/version |
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| 22:45.53 | Bladesman | has similar problems with module loading after a reboot. They never seem to consistantly load the same way from one reboot to the next. |
| 22:45.54 | abrotman | cat /proc/version |
| 22:46.06 | agur | Okay, stab me in the eye please, pcm was muted |
| 22:46.14 | abrotman | goes back to bed |
| 22:46.21 | agur | God damn, I've spent 3 days trying to get it working |
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| 22:46.41 | abrotman | agur: good thing you did all the steps on the chekclist above .. eh ? :) |
| 22:46.53 | agur | i did |
| 22:47.04 | agur | I've been pressing M like a madman in alsamixer |
| 22:47.16 | abrotman | glad to help! :) |
| 22:47.23 | agur | Thanks loads |
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| 22:47.27 | feitingen | agur: i've spent almost the same amount of time trying to fix similar problems |
| 22:47.51 | agur | it's the curse of thinking you know how to use linux |
| 22:48.29 | agur | Well, my curse |
| 22:48.29 | feitingen | i am mostly cursed with those loose cables that keep falling out |
| 22:48.48 | agur | I'm using a laptop, so I have to plug them in every time I get home |
| 22:49.11 | agur | What the heck is PCM anyways, I've tried googling for it but can't find out what it is |
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| 22:49.48 | feitingen | agur: i have no idea, i just accept it as a word |
| 22:50.01 | aleksanteri | ask wikipedia, it knows everything http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCM :) |
| 22:50.19 | Joelito | anyone know if there's going to be iceweasel 3 on stable? |
| 22:50.19 | Bushmills | agur: pulse code modulation. a way to generate analogs output from digital iinout |
| 22:50.21 | Bushmills | put |
| 22:50.23 | aleksanteri | (not that i understand what does it read on that page anyway...) |
| 22:50.57 | agur | Aha |
| 22:51.02 | agur | Well that I do know about |
| 22:51.03 | Bushmills | you could call it "ballistic signalling" |
| 22:51.44 | Bushmills | Joelito: eventually. |
| 22:51.53 | agur | PCM and FCM |
| 22:51.54 | Bushmills | on future stable |
| 22:52.09 | Joelito | Bushmills: oh, ok. |
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| 22:52.23 | Bushmills | Joelito: i.e. not in etch |
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| 22:54.02 | Joelito | Bushmills: I'm planning to use debian testing |
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| 22:55.45 | feitingen | just wondering, what is the charset for this channel? |
| 22:56.03 | abrotman | uh |
| 22:56.12 | feitingen | as in, would people become mad if i used utf-8? |
| 22:56.31 | zyx386 | how can install GD library on Debian Etch server 64X |
| 22:56.34 | rgr | Whats the best procedure for replacing a program with its debug equivalent when it crashes so I can send in a proper backtrace? |
| 22:57.30 | abrotman | zyx386: libgd ? |
| 22:57.38 | abrotman | feitingen: depends on their client |
| 22:58.03 | zyx386 | abrotman, gd library for php |
| 22:58.38 | abrotman | !stupid nickcomplete feitingen |
| 22:58.38 | dpkg | /°¤> feitingen <¤°\ Isn't my nick complete really annoying? |
| 22:58.48 | abrotman | zyx386: apt-cache search php gd ? |
| 22:58.53 | Bushmills | feitingen: not often that other chars than ascii 32..127 are seen here, use others, and they may not display well. so it is in your interest to use 7 bit ascii. |
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| 22:59.18 | rgr | Anyone? How to replace an app with its debug version in order to send in a proper backtrace after an application crash under debian? |
| 22:59.28 | Bushmills | feitingen: sometimes a diacritic nick |
| 23:00.25 | \amethyst | rgr: what app? Are debugging symbols available for it in Debian? |
| 23:00.26 | feitingen | i see. but my nick isnt stupid. |
| 23:00.58 | abrotman | feitingen: not your nick .. we had a guy here that his client would surround the person he was addressing with that |
| 23:01.05 | abrotman | rgr: stop repeating |
| 23:01.42 | feitingen | ah, lol |
| 23:01.56 | \amethyst | and apparently pidgin, at least sometimes, will stick a BOM at the beginning of each line |
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| 23:02.16 | feitingen | sounds weird |
| 23:02.28 | slim1 | how to startx automatic at startup ? |
| 23:02.40 | abrotman | !dm |
| 23:02.40 | dpkg | DM means Display Manager, the app that brings up a graphical login screen and starts your login session. <xdm>, <gdm>, <kdm>, <wdm>, pdm, and login.app are all examples of display managers. Ask me about <nodm> if you want to disable the DM.. Dungeon Master |
| 23:03.10 | \amethyst | and possibly |
| 23:03.12 | \amethyst | !autologin |
| 23:03.13 | dpkg | If you want an insecure box that boots into a session with your user. Xdm cannot do autologin but gdm and kdm can if you really want them to. (But do you?) |
| 23:03.33 | rgr | \amethyst: I dont know. I wanted to know if there was a general synaptic approach. abrotman : do you never tire of bullying people? Give it a rest. I repeated after 4 minutes. |
| 23:03.51 | Bladesman | slim1: You can also edit ~/.bash_profile and add the startx command at the end of the file. |
| 23:04.04 | abrotman | rgr: yeah .. wait longer |
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| 23:04.36 | dondelelcaro | rgr: most everything has the debugging information available in -dbg packages. If not, rebuild the packages with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="nostrip" |
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| 23:04.41 | slim1 | thanks all, Bladesman i have only one application that can run with xinit .., |
| 23:04.41 | rgr | abrotman: go boil your head :-; But yeah a couple of minutes more would be better. |
| 23:04.46 | \amethyst | rgr: see if there are -dbg packages for the app and for the library it uses, and install them |
| 23:04.57 | rgr | thanks guys. |
| 23:05.08 | abrotman | rgr: try to be more polite with volunteers |
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| 23:05.49 | cloakable | slim1: for an even more minimal approach, try rungetty with a personal .xinitrc |
| 23:05.49 | slainer68 | hi |
| 23:05.54 | zyx386 | abrotman, thanx but ican just via ssh connect to server, because the server is in another land? |
| 23:06.09 | abrotman | zyx386: to install packages? |
| 23:06.23 | zyx386 | just with SSH |
| 23:06.26 | zyx386 | with ip |
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| 23:06.40 | dondelelcaro | zyx386: there's no reason why you couldn't just use ssh |
| 23:06.49 | slim1 | thanks cloakable i will try it |
| 23:06.58 | rgr | abrotman: stop being such a prissy jobsworth. I waited 4 minutes. I contribute too on other groups. You're nothgn special. If you want to be so adored then go do something else. Cheers you others - thanks for your help. |
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| 23:07.32 | slainer68 | i've just installed apache2 on my debian 4.0 but my /etc/apache2 is empty, there are the folders mods-availables, mods-enabled, etc. but there are all empty! what's the problem ? |
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| 23:08.02 | \amethyst | slainer68: did you ever have apache2 installed on this machine before now? |
| 23:08.04 | marka | would anybody recommend debian for setting up a shared host server? |
| 23:08.07 | zyx386 | dondelelcaro, how can run command on my server with SSH |
| 23:08.08 | cloakable | slainer68: have you installed any of the mods? |
| 23:08.19 | konsl__ | How can I find out what's telling mysql to run on boot? (It's nowhere in rc.local; it's a default apt-get install) |
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| 23:08.32 | konsl__ | heh |
| 23:08.45 | \amethyst | konsl__: ls /etc/rc2.d/*mysql* |
| 23:08.48 | Bladesman | Try running tasksel to install the web server. |
| 23:08.57 | slainer68 | \amethyst, cloakable i don't know. how can i cleanup this, and install apache2 clean again ? |
| 23:09.13 | konsl__ | \amethyst: I get three results |
| 23:09.14 | \amethyst | slainer68: is the package apache2.2-common installed right now? |
| 23:09.26 | slainer68 | yes apache2.2-common is installed |
| 23:09.27 | abrotman | zyx386: just like normal .. how do you normally install stuff ? |
| 23:09.32 | konsl__ | mysql-ndb-mgm, mysql-ndb, mysql |
| 23:09.33 | abrotman | marka: why not? what concerns do you have? |
| 23:09.40 | \amethyst | konsl__: do any of them start with an S ? |
| 23:09.44 | konsl__ | Yes |
| 23:09.51 | konsl__ | S17-19 |
| 23:09.53 | \amethyst | konsl__: that's what's starting them up then |
| 23:10.01 | zyx386 | abrotman, the server is all installed standard i install nothing before :) |
| 23:10.07 | konsl__ | Ok, but these start mysqld_safe and thereby mysqld? |
| 23:10.10 | abrotman | zyx386: okay .. and ? |
| 23:10.14 | konsl__ | They are named for "mysql" |
| 23:10.20 | Bladesman | prefers 'aptitude install <package>' |
| 23:10.20 | konsl__ | and how do I stop them from starting it @ boot? |
| 23:10.27 | feitingen | amee2k: should he remove them or rename them? |
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| 23:10.32 | \amethyst | konsl__: they are scripts, you can read them to see what they do |
| 23:10.34 | cb3rob2 | your apache2 dir is probably empty because it's installed by some other package.. while you installed some other version of apache |
| 23:10.53 | cb3rob2 | there is one of those packages which creates an apache2 dir even if you don't run apache2 but some other version. |
| 23:10.59 | \amethyst | konsl__: I'd recommend renaming them, changing S17 to K83 S18 to K82 and so on |
| 23:11.18 | konsl__ | Ok, they can't be removed? |
| 23:11.23 | cb3rob2 | anyway, who cares, you usually wipe it all out and copy your own config giles into that anyway |
| 23:11.28 | konsl__ | What does renaming them to the K* naming scheme achieve? |
| 23:11.30 | zyx386 | abrotman, i install script need GD library , and i look the phpinfo isn't installed, can i insatll it? |
| 23:11.31 | \amethyst | konsl__: they can be, but that can cause problems sometimes |
| 23:11.33 | abrotman | cb3rob2: wrong .. |
| 23:11.40 | cb3rob2 | abrotman: not wrong |
| 23:11.54 | \amethyst | konsl__: the K makes init stop mysql in runlevel 2 |
| 23:11.55 | cb3rob2 | at a certain point i ended up with a box with apache1 and it still had an apache2 dir. |
| 23:11.58 | abrotman | you usually .. you also rent to spammers and think you live in a sovereign nation |
| 23:12.03 | konsl__ | Ok, cool |
| 23:12.18 | cb3rob2 | abrotman; see the comments on you from rgr :P |
| 23:12.31 | abrotman | slainer68: did you have apache2.2-common installed once before and remove it manually ? |
| 23:12.54 | cb3rob2 | and where the hell do you live, land stolen from the indians run by a back-end-of-a-pig who no-one elected but is the result of a bug in voting machines |
| 23:12.57 | cb3rob2 | that one? |
| 23:13.08 | konsl__ | \amethyst: one more question: why are the S* ascending and the K* descending -- any reason for renaming htem that way? |
| 23:13.09 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 23:13.12 | cb3rob2 | let's not get started on sovereignity shall we |
| 23:13.12 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*i=sven@*.cb3rob.net] by abrotman |
| 23:13.12 | *** kick/#debian [cb3rob2!n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman] by abrotman (abrotman) |
| 23:13.15 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 23:13.32 | slainer68 | i don't know this is not my server. sorry. i just want to be able to install apache2 with all the standard mods and default sites/config. for now, my apache2 etc dir is empty. |
| 23:14.07 | \amethyst | konsl__: so that stopping happens in the opposite order of starting |
| 23:14.09 | abrotman | slainer68: /msg dpkg confmiss .. roughly .. aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall apache2.2-common |
| 23:14.11 | Bladesman | konsl__: try 'cat /etc/rc2.d/README |
| 23:14.22 | konsl__ | Thanks |
| 23:14.27 | \amethyst | konsl__: since you're not planning to start them at all, the numbers don't matter that much |
| 23:14.32 | zyx386 | abrotman, can install GD library via SSH? |
| 23:14.36 | abrotman | yes |
| 23:14.53 | abrotman | zyx386: did you find the package you want? aptitude install <pkg> as root .. via ssh |
| 23:15.07 | zyx386 | ok |
| 23:15.29 | zyx386 | thanx |
| 23:15.31 | slainer68 | abrotman, this worked!!! thank you very much. |
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| 23:15.44 | abrotman | slainer68: have a good day |
| 23:15.48 | feitingen | \amethyst: thanks for the informative lesson on init, i've been wondering a long time about just that |
| 23:16.02 | Baloo1 | Oh, dammit. I just lost. Everybody here just lost, too. |
| 23:16.32 | Bladesman | There's also an /etc/init.d/README and an /etc/rcS/README |
| 23:17.05 | feitingen | Bladesman: thanks |
| 23:17.52 | konsl__ | \amethyst: I notice S*mysql* in rc3.d as well, should I rename these too? |
| 23:18.26 | \amethyst | konsl__: if you want; by default, Debian doesn't use the other runlevels, but if you might do so in the future it's not a bad idea |
| 23:18.52 | marka | abrotman: well, I'm running a debian shared host, automating the user creation process. But I'm running into a wall about how to restrict users beyond not giving sudo |
| 23:18.57 | \amethyst | konsl__: debian normally uses runlevels S, 2, 0, 1, and 6 |
| 23:19.15 | abrotman | marka: restrict them how? they all have their own $HOME .. what more do you want them to be able to do ? |
| 23:19.22 | konsl__ | Ah I see, thanks |
| 23:19.44 | Jygga | hi, i got 3 NICs in this server and each has a subnet with some clients attached, then there is another NIC that is connected to a printer. Id like to enable all subnets to connect to the printer but not each other. Can i use several bridge devices to bridge all client subnets to the printer subnet or do i have to bridge them all and then filter ip based? |
| 23:20.38 | abrotman | iptables rules ? |
| 23:20.49 | marka | abrotman: basically i'm making everywhere that's not the userspace $HOME's all chmod 771. Thanks btw for responding |
| 23:21.23 | abrotman | marka: that's not a great plan |
| 23:21.40 | Bladesman | rwxrwx--x? |
| 23:21.40 | marka | abrotman: Yeah, it feels like this isn't the best way of doing things, and googling/forums aren't getting me far |
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| 23:22.04 | abrotman | marka: in general .. changing perms like that all around the system is a pretty bad plan |
| 23:22.04 | fas3r | how to locate command ? (for example where is the command radiusd) |
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| 23:22.21 | abrotman | !tell fas3r about apt-file |
| 23:22.58 | Bladesman | locate <file> | grep "bin" |
| 23:23.02 | fas3r | abrotman: but apt-file search in apt package ( i have install from source) |
| 23:23.18 | abrotman | fas3r: installed what from source? radiud ? |
| 23:23.29 | fas3r | no i search nagios |
| 23:23.34 | marka | abrotman: It seems very undebian, what would you recommend? I've heard you can custom complile security kernels that give debian more permission features? |
| 23:23.36 | fas3r | radiusd is an example |
| 23:23.59 | abrotman | fas3r: updatedb && locate radiusd ? |
| 23:24.10 | fas3r | yes ^^ |
| 23:24.22 | abrotman | marka: so what's wrong with sudo ? |
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| 23:24.54 | fas3r | i just want to know if exist other command |
| 23:25.00 | Bladesman | likes the whereis command for finding stuff. |
| 23:25.23 | abrotman | there is whereis .. there's find .. numerous ways to search a local filesystem |
| 23:25.39 | Baloo1 | beagle |
| 23:25.42 | Baloo1 | Beagle rocks. |
| 23:26.16 | marka | abrotman: Well, I'd like to set up something where multiple users can play (but not interfere with each other). sudo shutdown / sudo apt-get / etc gives them too much power over the entire OS |
| 23:26.42 | abrotman | and 771 ? |
| 23:27.04 | Baloo1 | abrotman: I'm not sure there's anything particularly /wrong/ with sudo, so much the users/groups system is a tad hard to wrap your head around compared to ACLs. I don't give MS much credit, but at least NTFS supports ACLs by default, even if the default permissions tend towards retarded on that platform. |
| 23:27.43 | marka | Oh, basically to let them execute commands / run daemons.... but not to give them roaming access to peek around |
| 23:27.47 | Baloo1 | I believe SELinux, among other things, implements ACLs. |
| 23:28.01 | Baloo1 | marka: That's possible within the existing permission structure. |
| 23:28.09 | marka | don't get me wrong, I love sudo |
| 23:28.25 | Baloo1 | IIRC, you can access a directory but not list if it the directory is set readable but not executable. |
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| 23:29.04 | marka | baloo1: wouldn't you do that with x only? |
| 23:29.36 | justin | marka: you don't need to allow them to run everything under sudo |
| 23:29.58 | marka | justin: I was saying the exact opposite |
| 23:30.15 | baloo1 | ACLs? No, that's a filesystem thing what I'm talking about... not sure how X comes into play. |
| 23:30.23 | justin | marka: ooh, you want them to be able to run everything? |
| 23:30.34 | Bladesman | man sudoers |
| 23:30.36 | abrotman | not everything .. but non-destructive things .. apparently |
| 23:30.55 | baloo1 | abrotman: Isn't that default behavior? |
| 23:31.07 | abrotman | baloo1: a bit more than usual |
| 23:31.14 | baloo1 | Hmm. |
| 23:31.20 | abrotman | so he seems to be implying |
| 23:31.20 | marka | Sorry, I think I need to clarify. I'm making a shared host where users ssh in, run servers, etc. But they caveat is they _share_ it. So yea, non-destructive permissions are needed |
| 23:32.13 | marka | i phrased poorly also, b/c right now i'm doing this with execute permissions (chmod x) |
| 23:32.15 | savetheWorld | sounds like a job for ACL's ? |
| 23:32.41 | abrotman | we've covered ACLs |
| 23:32.55 | savetheWorld | you want read, write, create append, but not delete, or truncate. |
| 23:33.09 | marka | savetheworld: + everybody: awesome, I'll have to check it out |
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| 23:33.26 | savetheWorld | abrotman: sorry- just stumbled in now |
| 23:33.52 | abrotman | marka: you could just give each of them their own VM :) |
| 23:34.26 | marka | abrotman: funny you should mention, I'm also looking into using xen vm's (but they can be memory hogs) |
| 23:34.29 | Bladesman | wonders if rsh would work. |
| 23:34.58 | marka | bladesman: Yeah, I tried using rsh but it's just not secure enough |
| 23:35.14 | abrotman | marka: they can .. but then if the people you share with hose their own .. it's on them |
| 23:35.51 | marka | abrotman: true, and that's something I could live with ;-) |
| 23:36.30 | Baloo | Woo. Freenode appears to have finally seen the light about NickServ enforcement. |
| 23:36.54 | nevyn | ? |
| 23:37.56 | Baloo | For a long time, /msg nickserv set enforce on resulted in Nickserv directing you to a Freenode page telling you to go get stuffed: You registered the nick, you can release it. Never mind it's a PITA. |
| 23:38.58 | Baloo | Just tried it, and it successfully set the enforce bit. So now I'm a happy bear when it comes to the Freenode NickServ: It works as expected. |
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| 23:40.28 | Bladesman | prefers ghosting the sucker. |
| 23:43.45 | Bladesman | sighs, wondering when testing is ever gonna support SpeakUP kernel modules. |
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| 23:58.53 | Nyle | Good evening |