| 00:00.10 | switchcat | yeah I use gaim for AIM, but I've previously used yahoo messenger for unix, and I've got all these message archives, etc. I want to integrate. |
| 00:00.12 | jelly-home | switchcat: or, maybe, do a dpkg -i package.deb, then after it fails, do apt-get -f install |
| 00:00.19 | GreaseMonkey | jelly-home, no, i just type in the ifdown/ifup combo |
| 00:00.27 | GreaseMonkey | anyways, here are those files: http://rafb.net/p/w5K9Ph29.html |
| 00:00.31 | jelly-home | GreaseMonkey: I didn't ask that. |
| 00:00.41 | GreaseMonkey | wait |
| 00:00.44 | GreaseMonkey | i'll try that |
| 00:00.47 | valdyn | switchcat: aptitude install `dpkg-deb -f file.deb Depends` |
| 00:01.46 | juanramb__ | switchcat: ok, maybe you can import those message archives to gaim |
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| 00:02.30 | switchcat | eh, I don't want to use gaim for yahoo messenger, nor do I want to integrate my various logon ids under one messaging client. it does not work well for me. |
| 00:02.45 | GreaseMonkey | jelly-home, it's fine when i do that |
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| 00:02.53 | GreaseMonkey | something's fucking up the route table |
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| 00:02.59 | jelly-home | GreaseMonkey: is this machine supposed to be always online? |
| 00:03.08 | regulate | valdyn: aptitude wont parse those parameters |
| 00:03.15 | GreaseMonkey | jelly-home, no |
| 00:03.46 | regulate | valdyn: in fact | will be interpreted as wildcard |
| 00:03.47 | juanramb__ | switchcat: an opinion as valid as mine, but I prefer to have just one program for everything |
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| 00:04.19 | jelly-home | GreaseMonkey: hmm. Do you have another dhcp client active? |
| 00:04.25 | GreaseMonkey | jelly-home, no |
| 00:06.18 | switchcat | valdyn - hmmm interesting solution there, thanks.. it seems to have at least partially worked. |
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| 00:08.08 | simmerz | how do i find out what program is using a port? |
| 00:08.17 | GreaseMonkey | problem has been solved due to a bit of rc#.d script hackery. |
| 00:08.32 | abrotman | simmerz: fuser -n tcp <port#> |
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| 00:09.04 | regulate | simmerz: netstat -ntp|grep 22 |
| 00:09.25 | jelly-home | simmerz: or lsof :-) |
| 00:09.37 | simmerz | thanks |
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| 00:16.41 | damog | beardy: http://www.enricozini.org/2007/debtags/ept-cache-related.html |
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| 00:18.38 | aleph0 | I have a system that won't boot anymore. I'm accessing it from a rescue system and trying to re-install etch over the old system with debootstrap etc... however it still won't boot..... |
| 00:18.43 | aleph0 | what can I check? |
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| 00:19.14 | aleph0 | there is nothing in the logs... |
| 00:19.35 | aleph0 | hence the system mus really not boot properly... since it never even gets to the logging stage.. |
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| 00:21.41 | yoshio | aleph0: did you run grub or lilo? |
| 00:21.58 | aleph0 | yeah. |
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| 00:22.36 | aleph0 | I'm really stuck for ideas... I'm currently trying again from scratch with a different debootstrap version |
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| 00:23.20 | aleph0 | the last option of course being to wipe the disk, install with debootstrap in blank disk and repair services and accounts one by one... and I'm trying to avid that by any cost! |
| 00:23.28 | yoshio | did debootstrap install a kernel? is the right partition marked bootable? |
| 00:23.58 | aleph0 | I installed a kernel linux-image-2.6.... by hand as explained in http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
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| 00:24.43 | yoshio | did you check your fstab? |
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| 00:25.26 | ruied_ | my postgresql just listen in the local computer, how can I make it running on a tcp port ? I've installed the package postgresql. do I need any other package? |
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| 00:26.46 | urv | aleph0: where does your bootprocess getting stuck? |
| 00:26.52 | aleph0 | well it's the same fstab I had in the system all along. after all, it worked this morning. |
| 00:27.03 | aleph0 | I can't tell where it stops -> it's a remote server |
| 00:27.07 | aleph0 | :( |
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| 00:28.06 | aleph0 | but I just saw that the new debootstrap exited without an error (the last one complained about stuff...) so I'll check this out now. |
| 00:28.12 | aleph0 | hold your breath ;) |
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| 00:29.46 | cchance | Ok this thing is killing me trying to get apache2 to work right, i go to the ip address of the box, and i get nothng |
| 00:29.55 | abrotman | try another browswer |
| 00:30.01 | cchance | any ideas? before i do a drastic reboot of the system? |
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| 00:30.15 | cchance | I dont have anything but IE |
| 00:30.21 | reed026 | usually the local IP address will work from FF |
| 00:30.35 | cchance | ff? |
| 00:30.37 | reed026 | like if you use a router if it's a different machine |
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| 00:30.47 | reed026 | FF= FireFox / IceWeasel |
| 00:31.47 | abrotman | stew: uhm .. can i take my tires/tubes to be recycled or something ? |
| 00:32.22 | aleph0 | what does "WARNING: invoke-rc.d called during shutdown sequence / enabling safe mode: initscript policy layer disabled" mean? |
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| 00:34.06 | aleph0 | it's an aptitude output... |
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| 00:35.54 | yoshio | cchance: does "ps -ef" show apache running? run "sudo lsof -i :80" - does it show apache2 owning the port? |
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| 00:37.37 | karmatronic | hi there |
| 00:37.52 | _Sketch_ | Hello! |
| 00:38.22 | karmatronic | i have a funky problem , i compiled jackd in order to have freebob support and it s working but client apps (like mplayer) still use old libs for jack |
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| 00:40.12 | n3kl_ | what is the standard suspend to dist/ram? Is there something that will Wake on Lan? |
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| 00:40.36 | Tino_ | hey guys |
| 00:40.42 | Tino_ | anyone here? |
| 00:40.57 | vorpal | no |
| 00:41.08 | Tino_ | lol |
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| 00:43.21 | _Sketch_ | xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/diPQNN87.html Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/p/6dVrYW96.html When X starts up and *doesn't* print a "(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have usable configuration.", the screen remains black (no X11 pixel-checkerboard). xorg.conf is the file generated by xdebconfigurator... |
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| 00:47.08 | ruied_ | I've installd postgresql, but it doesn't listening in any port.... what can I do? I'm lost... |
| 00:47.23 | inFw | Is there a way I can check the charset a text file is in? |
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| 00:48.07 | calin | ruied_: have you checked to see that the port that the sql server is trying to listne on is indeed open and not already taken by mysql or the likes? |
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| 00:51.24 | aleph0 | ok. I'm still stuck. I have a system a can access from a rescue system but I can't get it to boot. I've installed a base system on top of the old one with debootstrap and I'm trying to find out why it won't boot |
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| 00:51.41 | aleph0 | I installed a kernel and grub vie the rescue system /debootstrap / chroot |
| 00:51.59 | ruied_ | calin, I don't have mysql... just the odbc... should it run out-of-the-box in the postgres default port ? |
| 00:52.21 | vorpal | aleph0: any boot messages of interest? |
| 00:53.04 | aleph0 | no. thats the problem. it never gets to the logging stage and it's a remote system so I can't see the first boot messages.... |
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| 00:53.33 | vorpal | ahhhh, remote kernel install... tough one ;-) |
| 00:53.53 | vorpal | personally i usually avoid doing that |
| 00:54.01 | aleph0 | no choice... |
| 00:54.49 | vorpal | well, if you're doing it remotely, do you even see the grub menu? |
| 00:55.08 | vorpal | serial console? |
| 00:55.09 | aleph0 | could the problem be in any way that I'm installing on top of the old system I'm trying to repair? |
| 00:55.14 | aleph0 | ssh only! |
| 00:55.21 | vorpal | oh, dude, you are so hosed |
| 00:55.32 | aleph0 | ssh and rescue system remotely activated |
| 00:55.46 | aleph0 | vorpal: ah!!! don't type that! |
| 00:56.20 | vorpal | how does the remote rescue system work? never done that one before |
| 00:56.37 | Rei-chan | Right. _Sketch_ has a problem with the Debian version of XORG. To the tune that #xorg sent him here. |
| 00:57.04 | Rei-chan | Anyone good with xorg problems that could help the poor guy? He can't even start X. |
| 00:57.15 | abrotman | paste your X log somewhere we can see it |
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| 00:57.23 | Rei-chan | _Sketch_, your logs. |
| 00:57.26 | aleph0 | I can activate reboots and rescue systems via a browser from my hosting provider. what I mean is, I can click on "activate rescue on next boot" and then on "reboot" on the hosting providers website and that I can do ssh to the rescue system. |
| 00:57.42 | vorpal | i see |
| 00:57.52 | _Sketch_ | xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/diPQNN87.html Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/p/6dVrYW96.html |
| 00:58.02 | daeos | how would i go about changing what drivers are used for my GeForce4 MX 440 ? im using the standard linux nvidia driver... and i can't do opengl period... i suppose once i get the drivers i'd need to use them.. how could I do that? |
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| 00:58.11 | aleph0 | so I'm on the system that won't boot right now and there is nothing(!) in the logs to guide me. |
| 00:58.15 | vorpal | when you installed the kernel, did you take care of initrd? |
| 00:58.53 | aleph0 | no |
| 00:59.15 | vorpal | was it a debian stock hkernel, or your own? |
| 00:59.16 | aleph0 | I installed a kernel image and initrd and auto-generated the grub menu.lst |
| 00:59.24 | aleph0 | stock |
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| 00:59.31 | vorpal | mmm |
| 00:59.42 | aleph0 | initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-4-486 |
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| 01:00.01 | vorpal | without some console output this is going to be tough |
| 01:00.03 | Guerin | aleph0: so ... if it can't boot, how do you have this information? |
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| 01:00.09 | Rei-chan | I tried making sense of _Sketch_'s x.org log, but it just hurt my head. :( Its setting stuff that the xorg.conf doesn't talk about. |
| 01:00.30 | oMish_ | Why services in /etc/inid.d do not have 'status' command ? |
| 01:00.32 | aleph0 | Guerin: I'm on a rescue system |
| 01:00.35 | oMish_ | Is there any repalcement ? |
| 01:01.01 | Guerin | aleph0: that means nothing in debian terms - you're using your hosting provider's tools? |
| 01:01.13 | Guerin | oMish_: what does it do? |
| 01:01.15 | oMish_ | like, '/etc/init.d/ssh status' , isn';t is nice ? |
| 01:01.24 | oMish_ | shows whether service is running |
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| 01:01.36 | oMish_ | i thought it .... |
| 01:01.46 | Guerin | oMish_: look in /var/run/ |
| 01:01.46 | aleph0 | yes. it's a minimal unix-rescue system. I can also chroot into the debian I'm trying to fix, run aptitude etc.. etc... |
| 01:02.23 | _Sketch_ | I've also attempted to fix it by tweaking almost all relevant packages... It just suddenly stopped working one day, after an upgrade. :P |
| 01:02.24 | Guerin | aleph0: no way of knowing what's breaking without output. What spec is the system? |
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| 01:02.36 | oMish_ | Guerin, is there command that shows whether service X is actually running, or ... not ? |
| 01:02.45 | Guerin | oMish_: yes. I told you. |
| 01:03.06 | oMish_ | but pid can be not running |
| 01:03.17 | oMish_ | killed, or crashed |
| 01:03.32 | oMish_ | There is no command, correct ? |
| 01:03.40 | oMish_ | ok i get you |
| 01:03.43 | aleph0 | what do you mean? AMD Sempron 3000+ and I installed kernel-image-2.6.18-4-486 |
| 01:04.00 | Guerin | aleph0: what kernel previously worked? |
| 01:04.11 | oMish_ | But this is stupid |
| 01:04.14 | oMish_ | service name is ssh |
| 01:04.22 | oMish_ | file name is /var/run/sshd.pid |
| 01:04.27 | aleph0 | previously the system was runnig sarge |
| 01:04.38 | oMish_ | that's not serious |
| 01:04.41 | Guerin | aleph0: just answer the question. |
| 01:04.42 | aleph0 | it's the etch upgrade that started this mess |
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| 01:05.31 | Guerin | oMish_: if you want to know whether a network service is running, connect to it. An init script status check would just test for the pidfile anyway. |
| 01:05.37 | Azar | the etch upgrade require reading the release notes before..... preparation... dist-upgrade only just don't cut it |
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| 01:05.50 | redduck666 | if i by hand chown /var/log/lighttpd/access.log to www-data will syslogd chown it to root? |
| 01:05.51 | aleph0 | 2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 01:06.08 | Guerin | aleph0: ok. and how did you install the kernel package? |
| 01:06.13 | aleph0 | Azar: and sometimes even the releasse notes don't help |
| 01:06.31 | Guerin | redduck666: yes, because it will be rotated and a new log created. |
| 01:06.34 | Azar | aleph0: they really do... |
| 01:06.52 | Azar | aleph0: did you use apt-get or aptitude for dist-upgrade and kernel upgrade? |
| 01:06.55 | Guerin | redduck666: you might consider hard-linking it if you want it visible. |
| 01:06.57 | redduck666 | Guerin: thanks |
| 01:07.18 | aleph0 | I used aptitude |
| 01:07.36 | Guerin | aleph0: are you chrooted in now? |
| 01:07.40 | aleph0 | yes |
| 01:07.41 | Azar | do you know anything about major changes from sarge > to etch? |
| 01:07.50 | Guerin | aleph0: does aptitude -f install; run clean? |
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| 01:08.58 | stoned | 1 |
| 01:09.13 | Guerin | 0 |
| 01:09.15 | aleph0 | no. it recognises all the packages I had installed under sarge that I didn't re-install after doing the little debootstrap-minimal-system-thing |
| 01:09.30 | Guerin | aleph0: huh? |
| 01:09.35 | aleph0 | hang on |
| 01:09.41 | Guerin | aleph0: are you running a mixed system? |
| 01:09.47 | inFw | any way to echo all environment variables at once? or list them? |
| 01:09.58 | redduck666 | inFw: 'env' |
| 01:09.59 | Guerin | inFw: env |
| 01:10.11 | aleph0 | I'm plastering over the broken sarge->etch system with an etch debootstrap |
| 01:10.27 | Guerin | aleph0: aarghy |
| 01:10.38 | Azar | aleph, chapter 4.1.3: "Because of the many changes in the kernel between sarge and etch regarding drivers, hardware discovery and the naming and ordering of device files, there is a real risk that you may experience problems rebooting your system after the upgrade." << preparation is explained in detail after this |
| 01:10.39 | aleph0 | well that's what I wrote first... |
| 01:10.50 | Guerin | aleph0: fix it before you try to reboot |
| 01:11.01 | Guerin | if possible - I understand that the upgrade requires a new kernel |
| 01:11.06 | reed026 | hmm I have Apache2, mysql and PHP set up on my debian box. Now I would like to get a NO-IP address set up so I could view my server from the web, How would I go about doing this? |
| 01:11.08 | inFw | thanks |
| 01:11.16 | Guerin | this is why reading the install guide is fun |
| 01:11.25 | Guerin | redduck666: ask no-ip |
| 01:11.44 | redduck666 | Guerin: no-ip? |
| 01:11.49 | Azar | peeple don't have time to read the release notes... but time trying to fix a broken system |
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| 01:11.55 | stoned | 1 |
| 01:11.57 | Guerin | redduck666: if that's whose service you will be using, yes. |
| 01:12.02 | Azar | yo stoned |
| 01:12.04 | stoned | haha a red duck |
| 01:12.07 | stoned | hey buddy |
| 01:12.12 | redduck666 | Guerin: wrong person? |
| 01:12.21 | Guerin | redduck666: oh, sorry |
| 01:12.23 | redduck666 | :) |
| 01:12.25 | stoned | you better be |
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| 01:12.30 | Guerin | reed026: ask no-ip |
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| 01:12.42 | Guerin | redduck666: it's your fault for having a nick beginning with re |
| 01:12.53 | Azar | darn tab |
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| 01:13.21 | drbair | anyone have experience with gfs on etch? is it stable enough for daily use? |
| 01:13.50 | Guerin | !gfs |
| 01:13.50 | dpkg | i guess gfs is The Global File System (GFS): it allows multiple Linux machines to share storage devices over a network. See http://www.redhat.com/software/rha/gfs/ or http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ |
| 01:13.54 | Guerin | oo |
| 01:14.09 | Guerin | !anyone use gfs on etch? |
| 01:14.09 | dpkg | No, no one uses gfs on etch, not even the people who use it. |
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| 01:15.12 | dmesg | hi |
| 01:15.26 | dmesg | to pāste? |
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| 01:16.01 | stoned | !no |
| 01:16.01 | dpkg | No Offense |
| 01:16.07 | stoned | !yes |
| 01:16.07 | dpkg | really??? wohoo! |
| 01:16.09 | Guerin | dmesg: topic |
| 01:16.11 | stoned | wtf |
| 01:16.26 | jelly-home | !wtf |
| 01:16.30 | stoned | hah |
| 01:16.34 | stoned | burn :) |
| 01:16.35 | oMish_ | !etch |
| 01:16.35 | dpkg | Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of debian stable |
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| 01:16.44 | jelly-home | !wtf wtf |
| 01:16.46 | dpkg | WTF: {what,where,who,why} the fuck |
| 01:16.58 | stoned | when |
| 01:17.03 | _Sketch_ | !dpkg |
| 01:17.03 | dpkg | [dpkg] the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". also ask me about <apt howto> |
| 01:17.07 | jelly-home | sunday, obviously |
| 01:17.09 | stoned | !abuse |
| 01:17.10 | dpkg | RAPE! RAPE!! Don't ever come near me again! |
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| 01:17.12 | Guerin | manifestly |
| 01:17.19 | stoned | im bored man |
| 01:17.20 | Guerin | sunday in tv-dinnerland |
| 01:17.24 | stoned | bored shitless |
| 01:17.25 | jelly-home | obnoxiously |
| 01:17.30 | stoned | I have no fecal matter left |
| 01:17.33 | stoned | literally |
| 01:17.41 | _Sketch_ | If you're bored, I have a problem with Debian/X |
| 01:17.41 | jelly-home | !tmi |
| 01:17.41 | dpkg | somebody said tmi was too much information, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island |
| 01:17.46 | Rei-chan | Good, stoned... You can help _Sketch_ with his xorg problem. :) |
| 01:17.49 | Guerin | stoned: you seem to be extruding some from your keyboard |
| 01:18.08 | stoned | Guerin: go lay down |
| 01:18.17 | stoned | _Sketch_: whats the problem> |
| 01:18.18 | stoned | ? |
| 01:18.19 | dmesg | can i change my hostmask to /debian/user? |
| 01:18.19 | kingsley | Does anyone here happen to know how to tell when it's necessary to do an "m-a prepare" before "m-a a-i"? |
| 01:18.29 | Azar | Guerin check this out: There is support for the NVIDIA GeForce 7025/7050 with NVIDIA's binary display driver and emerging support coming through Nouveau. :) |
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| 01:18.32 | stoned | kingsley: just do it |
| 01:18.32 | Azar | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=771&num=1 |
| 01:18.41 | lekvar | Would it be asking for trouble in any way to use non-debian-patched kernels in debian? |
| 01:18.53 | zinx | lekvar: No, as long as you use make-kpkg |
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| 01:19.01 | _Sketch_ | stoned: xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/diPQNN87.html Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/p/6dVrYW96.html <-- Can't get X to start half the time. When it does, it's only a black screen. My monitor's highest resolution is 1024x768... X thinks not. :P |
| 01:19.04 | Azar | lekvar: compiling custom kernel the debian way? |
| 01:19.10 | zinx | lekvar: though the 2.6 series is pretty sick without patches |
| 01:19.21 | lekvar | i'm fiddling with some patches that apply cleanly to the vanilla source but not the debian source |
| 01:19.28 | Guerin | kingsley: it can't hurt. It just makes sure you have build-essential and some kernel headers and such installed |
| 01:19.48 | lekvar | sick as "whoa dude, sick!" or sick as in "literally unwell" |
| 01:21.08 | daeos | how would i go about changing what drivers are used for my GeForce4 MX 440 ? im using the standard linux nvidia driver... and i can't do opengl period... i suppose once i get the drivers i'd need to use them.. how could I do that? |
| 01:22.01 | lekvar | Azar: make-kpkg |
| 01:22.01 | stoned | _Sketch_: what os? |
| 01:22.09 | Azar | yeah... |
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| 01:22.18 | stoned | _Sketch_: release I mean |
| 01:22.33 | _Sketch_ | Lenny. |
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| 01:22.43 | _Sketch_ | stoned: Lenny |
| 01:22.49 | stoned | hmm |
| 01:22.51 | stoned | I dunno man |
| 01:22.56 | stoned | I looked at some stuff |
| 01:22.57 | oMish_ | lenny ? |
| 01:23.00 | stoned | and you know |
| 01:23.04 | stoned | I dunno |
| 01:23.09 | oMish_ | lenny! |
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| 01:23.25 | _Sketch_ | Really? Darn... Arg. |
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| 01:23.40 | stoned | yeh |
| 01:23.45 | stoned | config look fine |
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| 01:24.14 | stoned | look for EE in your log file |
| 01:24.18 | stoned | didn't come up with much |
| 01:24.19 | kingsley | daeos: I don't know, but the first two options that I'd look into are a.) a debian utility named "module-assistant" and b.) google's search results for "GeForce4 MX 440 debian" without the quotes. |
| 01:25.06 | stoned | Azar: I'm hungry |
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| 01:25.30 | _Sketch_ | stoned: This seems to be related (or exactly) bug #11148 in Xorg. The xorg package changelog also hints at a change..I2C/DDC is prefered over config files? |
| 01:25.44 | lekvar | diffing kerenel trees is "fun" |
| 01:25.50 | stoned | _Sketch_: so downgrade your xorg package |
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| 01:26.09 | stoned | or upgrade to one where this bug doesn't affect |
| 01:26.27 | stoned | use snapshots or something |
| 01:26.30 | stoned | or etch package |
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| 01:27.25 | daeos | so what package would i use then to install the legacy nvidia driver since the current one i have does not support openGL? |
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| 01:28.18 | stoned | search nvidia|grep legacy? |
| 01:30.06 | abrotman | they all support opengl |
| 01:30.27 | abrotman | !nvidia_legacy |
| 01:30.28 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia_legacy is If you're using a Geforce2 or older card, you need to use the nvidia legacy driver instead of the normal one. If you're asked to install packages, use nvidia-kernel-legacy-...... instead of nvidia-kernel-......, and nvidia-glx-legacy. Ask me about <nvidia_legacy_cards> for a list of old cards supported by the legacy driver. |
| 01:30.44 | frojnd | is debian compare to ubuntu a lot more complicated ? |
| 01:31.05 | daeos | abrotman: the one im using... the standard one that xorg or xfree, would not support and does not support opengl |
| 01:31.15 | abrotman | daeos: the 'nv' driver? |
| 01:31.16 | mosno | frojnd: complicated in what sense |
| 01:31.19 | Tobizaz | frojnd: that depends on a lot of things.. |
| 01:31.21 | _Sketch_ | frojnd: In my opinion, Debian is better. It doesn't try way-too-hard to be user-friendly. |
| 01:31.34 | abrotman | _Sketch_: obviously .. with your situation |
| 01:32.12 | aleph0 | "Debian is better. It doesn't try way-too-hard to be user-friendly" ... wow! |
| 01:32.19 | abrotman | daeos: the 'nv' driver supports opengl for some cards IIRC |
| 01:32.21 | _Sketch_ | abrotman: This is preferible over *randomly* freezing on bootup. |
| 01:32.27 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:32.41 | frojnd | _Sketch_ and does debian have 6 moths version upgrade? |
| 01:32.48 | daeos | abrotman: true, but not on my card it seems |
| 01:33.05 | _Sketch_ | frojnd: That, I don't know. I think it's about yearly, instead? |
| 01:33.36 | abrotman | !release history |
| 01:33.36 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06) and Etch (4.0; 2007-03-08). The next release will be lenny. See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
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| 01:33.36 | _Sketch_ | Nope, I'm dead wrong. |
| 01:33.36 | Tobizaz | frojnd: Debian upgrades version when the next one is ready ;) |
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| 01:34.00 | Bjerrk | "Done when it's done". |
| 01:34.00 | frojnd | Tobiaz: and do I have to install a brand new cd or I can just upgrade to the next version? |
| 01:34.10 | abrotman | just upgrade to the next one |
| 01:34.17 | aeshyamae | chroot complaince of missing shared libraries what could be the problem? |
| 01:34.26 | inFw | what happens when they run out of characters? |
| 01:34.38 | _Sketch_ | inFw: They move on to Bug's Life. O:D |
| 01:34.39 | Bjerrk | aeshyamae: _which_ libraries? |
| 01:34.53 | inFw | lol _Sketch_ ^^ |
| 01:35.03 | abrotman | inFw: there are a lot left |
| 01:35.09 | Bjerrk | inFw: then pixar will have to make another toy story movie with new characters. |
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| 01:35.17 | inFw | abrotman: never watched the movie |
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| 01:35.38 | abrotman | inFw: wikipedia has a decent article laying out the characters |
| 01:35.40 | Tobizaz | frojnd: you update to the next version via apt :) |
| 01:35.40 | aeshyamae | libcrypt.so.1 when i try chroot /mnt/buildroot/ /bin/su - |
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| 01:36.06 | frojnd | Tobiaz: and no errors? |
| 01:36.39 | aeshyamae | Bjerrk:and libdl.so.2 when i try chroot /mnt/buildroot /bin/bash |
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| 01:37.09 | aeshyamae | Bjerrk:/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/tls/libdl.so.2: invalid ELF header |
| 01:37.24 | abrotman | kingsley: a-i runs prepare |
| 01:37.25 | Bjerrk | aeshyamae: Your system sounds pretty whacky. libcrypt is a part of glibc, afair |
| 01:37.38 | aeshyamae | broken files? |
| 01:37.56 | Tobizaz | frojnd: I get some.. normally my nvidia drivers go to hell, and some packages might need to be reconfigured.. |
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| 01:38.22 | Bjerrk | aeshyamae: What is it that you're trying to build? Something's gone wrong, it seems.. |
| 01:38.24 | thorat | I want to use module-assistant to build and install nvidia driver but not for the kernel I'm running at the moment but for a new one I just installed. |
| 01:38.33 | thorat | should I just set KVERS? |
| 01:38.35 | kingsley | abrotman: Thank you. |
| 01:38.43 | aeshyamae | Bjerrk:i was installing debian in usb |
| 01:38.47 | abrotman | kingsley: man m-a would have told you this :) |
| 01:38.54 | karmatronic | anyone here using testing knows if jackd can use freebob ? |
| 01:39.26 | aeshyamae | and done debrootstrap from debian dvd to /mnt/buildroot where my usb lies |
| 01:40.10 | daeos | abrotman: so for those cards that the 'nv' driver does not support.. i have to go look for legacy drivers correct? i did not find a package already made for them , and I can not get more info from #nvidia as to what driver i'll need from their site. I can not tell if i need a gf2 driver or gf4 driver as my mx440 is considered a gf2 chip but is called a gf4 card |
| 01:40.21 | abrotman | daeos: depends on your card |
| 01:40.29 | daeos | itsa GF4MX440 |
| 01:40.37 | daeos | so lshw would say? |
| 01:40.42 | abrotman | lspci would say also |
| 01:41.02 | Tobizaz | frojnd: but i dont think there is a reason to upgrade every time there is a update, unless i need some packages som testing branch |
| 01:41.08 | abrotman | !tell daeos about nvidia_legacy_cards |
| 01:41.10 | Tobizaz | the * |
| 01:41.19 | aeshyamae | Bjerrk:the problem is with some files missing in /mnt/buildroot right? |
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| 01:41.42 | aeshyamae | BJerrk : and not in my main debian installation? |
| 01:43.00 | Bjerrk | aeshyamae: Depends.. Is chroot complaining, or is bash? :-P |
| 01:43.03 | asg | abrotman: is it cold mooby time? |
| 01:43.33 | Bjerrk | aeshyamae: But i'm a tad drunk, and i'm off to bed anyway, so please don't listen to me.. |
| 01:43.37 | hxizan | my laptop has a SD card reader but it doesn't work when I put the SD card to, anyone have any idea? |
| 01:43.39 | abrotman | asg: why can't i have a pub with good food damn it |
| 01:44.44 | aeshyamae | Bjerrk: ok i was not good in interpreting things...got it now...its /bin/bash that complaining...anyway ill reinstall usb with debootstrap..once more... |
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| 01:45.17 | asg | abrotman: pubs don't have good food, only useful food. Good and Useful can, in some contexts, be the same. |
| 01:45.33 | Bjerrk | aeshyamae: Okay. Good luck :-S |
| 01:45.37 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:45.42 | aeshyamae | Bjerrk:thanks and byee |
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| 01:46.09 | abrotman | asg: actually .. i lie .. Union Jack's has good beer and good food! |
| 01:46.11 | Guerin | asg: lots of suits in wellington go to the pub for lunch, and have, for instance, soda bread and beef and guinness pie, and a glass of coke |
| 01:46.18 | abrotman | asg: but it's not .. really a pub i guess |
| 01:46.19 | Guerin | because there's no drinking on the job, right |
| 01:46.23 | daeos | abrotman: dpkg did not name my card... only the GF2 cards |
| 01:46.40 | asg | abrotman, Guerin: I'll be at the Hobgoblin in Reading on Wednesday |
| 01:46.53 | abrotman | asg: reading,pa ? |
| 01:46.56 | abrotman | wait .. is asg on vacation ? |
| 01:46.57 | daeos | so even though my card has a GF2 chip in it, gl does not work prehaps since its not the same as a gf2 chip? |
| 01:46.59 | asg | abrotman: s/pa/.uk/ |
| 01:47.03 | frojnd | Tobizaz: k ... everything looks like I'm gonna swith to something more original :) |
| 01:47.04 | abrotman | damn you! |
| 01:47.07 | Guerin | asg: i won't be. But if my loan comes through I'll be at the pub here. |
| 01:47.08 | asg | abrotman: 3 weeks. 1 week in .uk, 2 weeks in .es |
| 01:47.17 | Guerin | asg: too short |
| 01:47.22 | asg | Guerin: if you get there, I'll buy |
| 01:47.25 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:47.28 | Guerin | you'd have to |
| 01:47.33 | abrotman | asg: you bastard! |
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| 01:47.58 | asg | abrotman: bit of touch-n-go but it's on now ... so I might be a bit incommunicado for a while |
| 01:48.07 | Tobizaz | frojnd: there isn't anything more original than Debian :D |
| 01:48.21 | Bjerrk | frojnd: "original"...? |
| 01:48.37 | abrotman | asg: i owe you a punch in the arm :) |
| 01:48.53 | Bjerrk | frojnd: Well, Debian is one of the oldest active distributions.. |
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| 01:49.21 | asg | abrotman: I'll bring you back a jar of Branson Pickle if it will help |
| 01:49.25 | asg | *Branston |
| 01:49.41 | abrotman | crabpaste!!! |
| 01:49.51 | abrotman | asg: as a side note .. 12strings is so much nicer than 6 :) |
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| 01:50.16 | asg | abrotman: if you have fat fingers |
| 01:50.27 | reed026 | when I do the NO-IP map to my IP address it gives me the log in screen for my Linksys Router |
| 01:50.36 | abrotman | asg: nope .. it's still nicer |
| 01:50.39 | reed026 | Is it port 80 I should be using? |
| 01:50.48 | reed026 | like myip:80 |
| 01:51.06 | stoned | well your router listens at that port |
| 01:51.07 | zinx | the fingers you have tried to pluck the string with are too large, if you would like to order a plucking wand please place your palm on the amp now |
| 01:51.23 | stoned | most isps also block port 80 cuz they don't want poeple runin servers ns hit |
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| 01:51.42 | MONO` | stoned: i found that out the annoying way |
| 01:51.50 | reed026 | hmm What port should I do for my Debian Box then? |
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| 01:52.02 | stoned | I use 8181 just to keep it simple |
| 01:52.04 | reed026 | Or do I need to change the port my Linksys Router listens to? |
| 01:52.08 | stoned | i have dyndns.org |
| 01:52.13 | stoned | !stoned |
| 01:52.17 | stoned | go to the link |
| 01:52.20 | stoned | see where it takes you |
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| 01:52.37 | asg | hopefully not the bit where you are touching yourself |
| 01:52.43 | stoned | lol |
| 01:52.47 | stoned | that wasn't me |
| 01:52.51 | MONO` | lol |
| 01:52.56 | Guerin | it's got your name on it |
| 01:53.00 | Guerin | anyway |
| 01:53.07 | Guerin | convention is to not ediut your own facoids |
| 01:53.09 | Guerin | it's vain |
| 01:53.28 | stoned | yeh ok mr philosophy boxen |
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| 01:54.31 | stoned | !luhar |
| 01:54.31 | dpkg | Luhar, son of Mogar, son of Wintar, daughter of Gabar, bastard of Dibar. It is rumored that Luhar's great-great-great-(*20) grandson, Rahul son of none, uses Lindows. |
| 01:54.34 | MONO` | stoned: i use port 8080 |
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| 01:55.24 | daeos | abrotman: the debian packages website shows several nvidia legacy packages available but for some reason apt is not showing them to me... does that mean my sources are wrong? |
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| 01:55.33 | elguille | hello |
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| 01:55.38 | stoned | yo |
| 01:55.46 | rahul | heh |
| 01:55.47 | abrotman | daeos: you need contrib and non-free |
| 01:56.17 | rahul | don't make me sic my great-great-great-(*21) grandfather, Mogar on you |
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| 01:56.24 | stoned | hey |
| 01:56.30 | stoned | you seen transformers yet |
| 01:56.51 | daeos | abrotman: i have this line, deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free |
| 01:56.58 | rahul | no\ |
| 01:57.05 | stoned | its a waste of time |
| 01:57.14 | rahul | figures |
| 01:57.26 | Guerin | i saw a good movie on the weekend |
| 01:57.29 | rahul | !penixstrike stupid movie making conglomerates |
| 01:57.29 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking stupid movie making conglomerates to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 01:57.36 | asg | stoned: the other night, you said it was the bomb and thought we were fools for thinking otherwise. What changed? |
| 01:57.47 | stoned | I watched it a few times over |
| 01:57.48 | stoned | :) |
| 01:57.54 | Guerin | this is something of an occasion, since about 11 out of 10 movies are complete bollocks |
| 01:58.04 | daeos | abrotman: so i do have the line then don't i? |
| 01:58.33 | stoned | I quite literally wasted my time watching the movie |
| 01:59.00 | daeos | Guerin: 11 out of 10? |
| 01:59.23 | stoned | yeh his math is backwards |
| 01:59.27 | Guerin | daeos: possible more. |
| 01:59.33 | stoned | its a special kind of math |
| 01:59.35 | Guerin | possibly, even. |
| 01:59.43 | rahul | no, the entertainment industry is bass ackwards |
| 01:59.47 | stoned | for special people |
| 01:59.49 | jzxu | ha, transformers, the second worst movie of recent times, runners up to ghost rider |
| 01:59.52 | reed026 | stoned, would I just port forwards 8181 to my Debian Server? |
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| 01:59.56 | Guerin | well, `all' just doesn't express how fucking shit movies are |
| 02:00.47 | predder | I upgraded a couple of boxes from sarge to etch. I was looking at the differences between bashrc files and I noticed the following is commented out in the new version: "# enable bash completion in interactive shells" What's an interactive shell versus a non interactive one? |
| 02:00.51 | Guerin | there are literally half a dozen movies I've seen in the last three years which were worth watching |
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| 02:01.06 | abrotman | Guerin: all starring Mandy Moore ? |
| 02:01.17 | predder | Likely, Jenna Jameson |
| 02:01.27 | Guerin | predder: an interactive shell is one you can typer commands to. A non-interactive one is one which you can't. |
| 02:01.28 | daeos | so it seems that abrotman is busy, so could anyone tell me if i have the correct line in my sources.list file? deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free , i need to get the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers and apt isn't showing me this in the available packages list |
| 02:01.34 | Guerin | abrotman: who the fuck is mandy moore? |
| 02:01.45 | daeos | Guerin: 90s pop teen idol |
| 02:01.49 | Guerin | daeos: oh. |
| 02:01.57 | daeos | 99 to 2001 or so |
| 02:02.01 | predder | thanks Guerin |
| 02:02.02 | Guerin | zz |
| 02:02.06 | SR71-Blackbird | how do I ssh to local subnet.. from server... with two ethernet cards.. one connected to internet... other to lan.. seems ssh doesn't take the lan ip directly.. |
| 02:02.07 | abrotman | Guerin: imdb.com |
| 02:02.12 | asg | Guerin: night |
| 02:02.13 | Guerin | abrotman: ELAZY |
| 02:02.18 | Guerin | asg: afternoon |
| 02:02.24 | abrotman | daeos: those are just security .. where is your regular line ? |
| 02:02.32 | asg | Guerin: then it's beertime all around then |
| 02:02.39 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: you don't connect to a subnet, you connect to an ip address. |
| 02:02.43 | Guerin | aye! |
| 02:02.55 | daeos | oh! |
| 02:03.06 | SR71-Blackbird | Guerin, i know.. it just isn't taking my local network's Ip |
| 02:03.19 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: what do you mean it isn't `taking' it? |
| 02:03.20 | abrotman | !google picture mandy moore |
| 02:03.33 | Guerin | be more abiguous; unless you're very careful, someone might understand you] |
| 02:03.41 | daeos | abrotman: ok, so... add a new line that says.... deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main ? but with contrib and non-free at the end? |
| 02:03.47 | abrotman | daeos: yep |
| 02:03.50 | rahul | being understood is dangerous |
| 02:04.02 | rahul | chicks only like you when they have no clue what you're talking about |
| 02:04.02 | Guerin | rahul: more than being misunderstood? |
| 02:04.08 | SR71-Blackbird | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.2 port 22: No route to host i get this message when i try to connect.. i can connect from other computer to server tho |
| 02:04.34 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: your routes are broken, or there's no gateway forwarding packets to that box |
| 02:04.34 | rahul | I have a chick in chicago who's all gaga over me now |
| 02:04.46 | asg | rahul: didn't know you were into fowl |
| 02:05.04 | Guerin | brrrawk! |
| 02:05.12 | daeos | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free <-- like that? |
| 02:05.14 | rahul | those soft feathers feel so nice against my... er |
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| 02:05.22 | SR71-Blackbird | Guerin, how do i fix it? |
| 02:05.23 | asg | rahul: beak? |
| 02:05.26 | cchance | What is LVM |
| 02:05.36 | asg | cchance: fucking google it |
| 02:05.37 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: depends on the problem |
| 02:05.51 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: that's a symptom, not the problem. |
| 02:06.00 | cchance | Id rather talk to someone about i |
| 02:06.20 | SR71-Blackbird | Guerin, well. i have been using ip masquerading.. ip forwarding.. for the other comp to use net |
| 02:06.30 | asg | cchance: then /join #lvm |
| 02:06.31 | rahul | beak... yeah... ahem |
| 02:06.38 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: i still don't understand your network topography |
| 02:06.43 | cchance | .. |
| 02:06.49 | rahul | ;; |
| 02:06.53 | asg | esac |
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| 02:06.56 | SR71-Blackbird | Guerin, its 2 computer peer to peer |
| 02:07.00 | cchance | i have no idea what it is |
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| 02:07.16 | cchance | what ever if your going to be taht wall il just install without it |
| 02:07.21 | asg | cchance: then fucking google it; it isn't hard |
| 02:07.24 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: so one box has two nics, and the other has one? |
| 02:07.29 | cchance | i did |
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| 02:07.34 | daeos | cchance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux) |
| 02:07.38 | Guerin | cchance: there is no hope for you. |
| 02:07.41 | shey | !dpkg nvidia sid |
| 02:07.46 | shey | hrmm |
| 02:07.50 | cchance | thats what i got |
| 02:07.53 | asg | Guerin: this has been apparent since early today EDT |
| 02:07.59 | ormandj | question: when I am using debuild -S to build the source package, where exactly *is* the resulting source package? same goes for pbuilder, because it's building to completion but I don't see a .deb |
| 02:08.00 | Guerin | heh |
| 02:08.01 | SR71-Blackbird | Guerin, yeah |
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| 02:08.15 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: so from which box are you trying to connect to which ip? |
| 02:08.57 | SR71-Blackbird | Guerin, i'm connecting from the gateway computer(server, router, whatever) to the other computer |
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| 02:09.41 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: what are the ip addresses? |
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| 02:10.03 | SR71-Blackbird | 192.168.0.1(server) and 2 (client) |
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| 02:10.33 | daeos | abrotman: would this be the one i want? nvidia-kernel-legacy-2.6.18-4-686 |
| 02:10.38 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: and ping 192.168.0.2 from the gateway yields `no route to host'? |
| 02:10.53 | abrotman | ma7yne; |
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| 02:11.07 | SR71-Blackbird | Guerin, yeah... i have to use -I eth1 to ping successfully |
| 02:11.16 | ormandj | sr71: netstat -rn |
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| 02:11.23 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: your routes are fux0red. |
| 02:11.41 | ormandj | SR71-Blackbird: run netstat -rn and paste the output into pastebin and give us the link |
| 02:11.57 | SR71-Blackbird | ormandj, doing that |
| 02:11.58 | Guerin | SR71-Blackbird: so, write another one after reading `man route' |
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| 02:13.01 | pm2 | If I have a software RAID 5 array, how easy is it to add another disk of the same size to the array? |
| 02:13.14 | ormandj | easy |
| 02:13.19 | daeos | would this be the right package for me ? --> nvidia-kernel-legacy-2.6.18-4-686 |
| 02:13.31 | abrotman | try it |
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| 02:13.46 | \amethyst | daeos: what's your kernel? (uname -r) |
| 02:13.55 | ormandj | daeos: probably helps if you specify what exactly constitutes the "right package"; ie: why are you asking? |
| 02:14.04 | ormandj | not all of us have seen your entire plight |
| 02:14.07 | daeos | \amethyst: 2.6.18-4-686 (SMP) |
| 02:14.17 | pm2 | ormandj, so provided the drive is the same size, it shouldn't me a problem? |
| 02:14.23 | daeos | ormandj: sorry, but i've been talking about my plight for the past 2 hours |
| 02:14.32 | \amethyst | daeos: then that will at least work with your kernel... whether it works with your hardware, I don't know |
| 02:14.40 | \amethyst | I don't know nvidia's stuff that well |
| 02:14.48 | daeos | \amethyst: i have an nvidia gf4mx440 |
| 02:15.08 | daeos | \amethyst: and the 'nv' driver does not support gl on my cardd |
| 02:15.22 | ormandj | pm2: correct, man mdadm |
| 02:15.24 | \amethyst | daeos: Does the 'nvidia' driver not work with your card? |
| 02:15.28 | pm2 | ormandj, thanks |
| 02:15.40 | ormandj | lots of people are using LVM now too |
| 02:15.45 | ormandj | but you'll have lots of options |
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| 02:15.51 | ormandj | http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/raid-lvm.php#expanding |
| 02:15.53 | \amethyst | daeos: that is, do you need the legacy version? |
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| 02:15.54 | daeos | \amethyst: i can see things, but can not use opengl |
| 02:15.56 | ormandj | that's the first thing that came up in google |
| 02:16.13 | daeos | \amethyst: and, i really do need opengl to work |
| 02:16.14 | \amethyst | daeos: note that nv and nvidia are two different drivers |
| 02:16.29 | daeos | \amethyst: i've tried both |
| 02:16.34 | daeos | .. i think |
| 02:16.39 | ormandj | daeos: it sounds like your X configuration file is bad |
| 02:16.41 | daeos | how can i tell which one is used right now? |
| 02:16.46 | SR71-Blackbird | Guerin, ormandj http://pastebin.ca/609793 |
| 02:16.46 | ormandj | assuming the nvidia drivers installed properly |
| 02:17.01 | daeos | well.. assumeing it is.. or that im using the wrong driver |
| 02:17.09 | daeos | what would i want to try next in order to fix my opengl issue |
| 02:17.20 | ormandj | SR71-Blackbird: wow, how did you manage to make such horrible routing tables? |
| 02:17.29 | \amethyst | daeos: you could look at the output of glxinfo |
| 02:17.37 | ormandj | daeos: goto nvidia's website and follow the directions? it's pretty clear |
| 02:17.43 | SR71-Blackbird | ormandj, haha.. |
| 02:17.54 | ormandj | SR71-Blackbird: how did you configure your network? |
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| 02:18.48 | ormandj | you've got two default routes pointing to nowhere |
| 02:18.59 | ormandj | and no proper default route for eth1 |
| 02:19.00 | SR71-Blackbird | ormandj, i used some tutorial to share internet... using iptables... ip masquerading and dns masquerading packages.. |
| 02:19.17 | xembrx | lol |
| 02:19.20 | daeos | ormandj: nice elitest response.. i'll remember not to ask you for help again |
| 02:19.53 | SR71-Blackbird | ormandj, how do i fix it? |
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| 02:20.08 | ormandj | SR71-Blackbird: see: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html , specifically 10.6 |
| 02:20.27 | xembrx | my network is only half-working for some reason |
| 02:20.29 | ormandj | 10.6.1.1 has example interfaces files with static configuration |
| 02:20.44 | ormandj | at the top it covers basic networking 101 which you'll need to know too |
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| 02:20.56 | ormandj | i suggest finding a different tutorial for setting up a router in linux, as well |
| 02:21.34 | ormandj | 10.6.1.6 covers multiple ethernet adapters in the interfaces file, which you'll need |
| 02:21.48 | abrotman | daeos: just try it .. if it does'nt work .. you'll know |
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| 02:23.27 | ormandj | daeos: i wasn't giving you an elitest response, i was giving you an HONEST response. i've installed the nvidia driver a thousand times over, and if you follow the directions to the letter, it works. it sounds like your X isn't getting configured properly, but the nvidia driver install is working |
| 02:23.52 | ormandj | so that being said, the most likely culprit is missing something on the instructions on nvidia's site, which *I* have also done many times before |
| 02:23.54 | ormandj | hence my suggestion |
| 02:24.48 | ormandj | I do suggest, however, that you do not get such an attitude with people who are honestly attempting to help you, it makes them less inclined to continue. anyways, good luck on it, i've got to go shortly |
| 02:24.56 | daeos | ormandj: their site does not specific anything to do with my card |
| 02:25.02 | ormandj | it doesn't need to |
| 02:25.06 | ormandj | it works the same for all hardware |
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| 02:25.11 | ormandj | one moment, i will give you a direct link |
| 02:25.33 | daeos | so then i could use the gf2 driver? or the gf4 driver? |
| 02:26.34 | ormandj | one moment, finding you a link |
| 02:26.35 | abrotman | ormandj: that's not the Debian way |
| 02:26.42 | lekvar | Anyone happen know whether etch/lenny need the kernel option "Create deprecated sysfs files"? I notice it's enabled in the stock kernels but it doesn't sound especially necessary... |
| 02:27.03 | abrotman | !tell daeos about nvidia_legacy |
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| 02:27.21 | abrotman | !tell daeos about nvidia one-liner |
| 02:27.32 | mfrisch | he he |
| 02:27.33 | abrotman | daeos: now put those two factoids together .. run the command .. and voila! |
| 02:28.06 | ormandj | daeos: listen to abrotman, he's obviously got his "stuff" more together when it comes to debian. i still build all my packages by hand :p |
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| 02:28.16 | abrotman | daeos: if you use the method ormandj is suggesting .. most of the regulars in here will first tell you to install them the Debian way before they'll help you |
| 02:28.59 | xerophyte | what package do i have to install to get pretty fonts .. i mean my browser does nto seems to support the common fonts all comes with same font .. is there any package i have to install ? |
| 02:29.11 | ormandj | abrotman: maybe you can tell me where debuild -S and pbuilder build are dumping the packages once built, because i can't find them in ./ |
| 02:29.25 | krazykit | lekvar, certain apps still use the deprecated stuff, but anything newer won't, and it's likely safe to remove it. |
| 02:29.32 | abrotman | uhm .. everytime i've done it .. they go in . |
| 02:29.46 | abrotman | ormandj: is there a conf file that suggests somewhere else ? |
| 02:30.15 | ormandj | nope. i'm getting some weird errors on dpkg-shlibdeps, saying it can't find a path for libname.so |
| 02:30.20 | ormandj | but i'm not seeing any failure errors |
| 02:30.30 | abrotman | well .. that doesn't sound good |
| 02:31.15 | ormandj | looks like just warnings though, and at the end it says "copying back cached apt archive contents" which i'm assuming is where the deb would be moved |
| 02:31.42 | ormandj | what's odd, even debuild -S isn't dumping a package anywhere, i only see some new tarballs |
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| 02:34.44 | moauud | i want to install a dvd verison on computer does net have dvd rom ...? |
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| 02:37.26 | xerophyte | I used to have panel notification blinks when i get gaim and others application does anybody know which package is responsible for that |
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| 02:40.28 | ormandj | SR71-Blackbird: what's the output of netstat -rn now? |
| 02:40.38 | ormandj | go ahead and put your interfaces file too |
| 02:41.07 | SR71-Blackbird1 | ormandj, same |
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| 02:42.02 | ormandj | let me see your interfaces file |
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| 02:43.41 | SR71-Blackbird1 | http://pastebin.ca/609817 ormandj here it is |
| 02:44.18 | Baldric | Hi i just installed Firestarter. How do i get it to load everyime the box boots |
| 02:44.22 | aleph0 | ok here's one. my rescue system has my disk as hda but etch has it as sda (I think). what is the correct way to install lilo? |
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| 02:45.21 | ormandj | SR71-Blackbird: what does ifconfig eth0 show? |
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| 02:45.42 | floppyears | hi |
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| 02:45.54 | floppyears | I"m trying to install libapache-mod-php5 |
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| 02:46.05 | floppyears | but for some reason I can't find it using apt-cache search |
| 02:46.11 | floppyears | any hints / help ? |
| 02:46.17 | wols_ | floppyears: it does not exist |
| 02:46.21 | _Sketch_ | Is there a package manager that does dependancy checking on downgrades? |
| 02:46.36 | ormandj | floppyears: what distro? |
| 02:46.45 | ormandj | sorry, version of debian |
| 02:46.46 | ricky | wols_: Weird- apt-get show libapache-mod-php5 works for me. |
| 02:46.48 | wols_ | _Sketch_: no |
| 02:46.58 | ormandj | it's probably a sources.list problem |
| 02:46.58 | ricky | Wait.. I'm on testing- perhaps that's it? |
| 02:46.59 | wols_ | ricky: that is not debian |
| 02:47.08 | ormandj | might need to enable an extra repository |
| 02:47.08 | ricky | OK- sorry. |
| 02:47.26 | ormandj | http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/libapache-mod-php5 |
| 02:47.26 | _Sketch_ | wols_: None? Wow. Thanks, though. :) |
| 02:47.36 | wols_ | ricky: I stand corrected. testing has it |
| 02:47.46 | wols_ | _Sketch_: use apache2 |
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| 02:48.05 | wols_ | oops. you're the downgrade guy |
| 02:48.08 | ricky | Aha. |
| 02:48.10 | wols_ | floppyears: use apache2 |
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| 02:48.31 | ormandj | wols_: the package relies on apache-common >= 1.3.34 |
| 02:48.41 | wols_ | ormandj: what package? |
| 02:48.52 | ormandj | read above where i posted a link to debian's repository |
| 02:49.33 | ormandj | it's in -stable |
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| 02:50.14 | wols_ | !info libapache-mod-php5 etch |
| 02:50.21 | dpkg | libapache-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 1.3 module)), section net, is optional. Version: 5.2.0-8+etch1 (etch), Packaged size: 2355 kB, Installed size: 5336 kB |
| 02:50.28 | ormandj | so i found my package, in /var/cache/pbuilder/result. weird. |
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| 02:50.45 | ormandj | wonder why it's not dumping it in ./ |
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| 02:51.11 | daeos | how can i restart xorg, after running the dpk-reconfigure? |
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| 02:51.19 | daeos | /etc/init.d/xorg restart? |
| 02:51.22 | daeos | or something else? |
| 02:51.44 | asg | startx |
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| 02:52.12 | xerophyte | which package has fixed-medium font? |
| 02:52.19 | wols_ | daeos: /etc/init.d/?dm start |
| 02:52.22 | daeos | asg: let me more specific.. im using ssh, im not locally loged in |
| 02:52.32 | wols_ | ? depends on your desktop environment |
| 02:52.34 | floppyears | wols_: what's wrong with apache 1.3 ? |
| 02:52.42 | floppyears | ormandj: debian |
| 02:52.54 | floppyears | wols_: I know that package used to exist what happened :( ? |
| 02:52.56 | wols_ | !tell xerophyte about search |
| 02:53.01 | ormandj | floppyears: yeah, i know debian, and i already pointed you to the package |
| 02:53.07 | ormandj | i was asking what version of debian, sorry |
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| 02:53.14 | wols_ | floppyears: it still exists. scroll up |
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| 02:53.26 | ormandj | click on the link i pasted, and you'll see the package |
| 02:53.32 | scorn- | i have slow net, is the netinst iso enouhg to run debian with? |
| 02:53.55 | ricky | scorn-: You still have to download the packages you install, but you only download what you need, which is probably ideal for your situation. |
| 02:54.16 | scorn- | ricky:mm. |
| 02:54.20 | enveezee | I got a debian 3.1 sarge system here that has been offline for awhile and its using ftp.debian.org and for some reason after doing an update && upgrade it's only showing like 34 packages to be installed |
| 02:54.55 | scorn- | ricky: but for 500mb doesn't it contain something that i could work with? |
| 02:55.04 | wols_ | enveezee: what is in your sources.list? "sarge" or "stable"? |
| 02:55.18 | wols_ | scorn-: yes, netinst |
| 02:55.27 | ricky | scorn-: Oh wait- my mistake- I was thinking about something else. |
| 02:55.28 | asg | enveezee: sarge has been through a number of revisions, those updates would probably be the cause of new packages being pulled in. |
| 02:55.33 | scorn- | :/ |
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| 02:56.04 | wols_ | scorn-: netinst gives you a base install and then you use aptitude to install stuff you want |
| 02:56.26 | enveezee | wols_, asg I just realized it's only showing but 61 packages installed.. gdm and gnome are running on the other window,, I guess its package info is fucked |
| 02:56.30 | ricky | scorn-: Yeah- that does contain packages for a base system, so it should be good. |
| 02:56.32 | wols_ | netinst is only 150MB so you have "room" for downloading another 350MB :) |
| 02:56.42 | floppyears | ormandj: I ran into the following problem libapache-mod-php5 depends on php5-common (= 5.2.0-10+lenny1); however: Version of php5-common on system is 5.2.3-1+b1. |
| 02:56.46 | samrocks | when using something such as simplyMEPIS i'm getting 404 errors when I apt-get update; this is what I'm assuming is causing Broken Dependencies...anyone know or seen how to fix this? |
| 02:56.49 | scorn- | i see |
| 02:56.56 | enveezee | isn't there some ignorant hack of a one-liner laying around to rebuild that dpkg info db? |
| 02:57.09 | wols_ | floppyears: /msg dpkg bat |
| 02:57.10 | ormandj | floppyears: can't help with depend issues, i don't run debian, so can't look into it. sorry :/ |
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| 02:57.31 | wols_ | enveezee: dpkg -l | wc -l |
| 02:57.40 | wols_ | enveezee: dpkg -l | grep ii |wc -l |
| 02:57.56 | floppyears | thanks wols_ |
| 02:58.09 | floppyears | ormandj: that's ok |
| 02:58.09 | enveezee | wols_: I did that it says 61 |
| 02:58.15 | _Sketch_ | How do I downgrade xorg to version 1:7.2-3? |
| 02:58.16 | enveezee | wols_: it somehow doesnt know it has the other 300 packges |
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| 02:58.51 | asg | enveezee: there should be a backup in /var/backups (at least for dpkg's status file) |
| 02:59.21 | aleph0 | ARGH!!!! Why can't I boot?!?! |
| 02:59.32 | aleph0 | I'mgoing crazy |
| 02:59.32 | ricky | aleph0: What error(s) do you get? |
| 02:59.35 | aleph0 | none |
| 02:59.49 | asg | aleph0: then what symptoms are you experiencing? |
| 03:00.11 | enveezee | yeah ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/| cut -d . -f 1 | uniq | wc -l is showing 1110 packages but dpkg -l | grep ^.i | wc -l is only showing 61 |
| 03:00.11 | ricky | OK. What do you see instead of what you expect? |
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| 03:00.21 | aleph0 | I tried to update a remote system from sarge to etch and now it wont boot. I can access a rescue system and I tried to repair it. whatever I do ... no boot |
| 03:00.22 | enveezee | the package info is messed up |
| 03:00.29 | aleph0 | and since it's remote -> no feedback |
| 03:00.52 | wols_ | enveezee: if your packages are rc they still show in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ but not in dpkg -l | grep ^.i |
| 03:01.04 | enveezee | enveezee: yep |
| 03:01.08 | enveezee | wols_: heh |
| 03:01.08 | aleph0 | I tried to install a clean etch on top of the other system with debootstrap and such... still no boot |
| 03:01.30 | asg | enveezee: doing such things leads to a hairy tongue |
| 03:01.32 | ricky | Ah- no feedback is pretty bad. Any logs? |
| 03:01.34 | wols_ | enveezee: so the system might be ok after all. just might |
| 03:01.37 | ricky | Grub configuration? |
| 03:01.48 | aleph0 | ricky: I never get to the looging stage... |
| 03:01.57 | wols_ | aleph0: how far do you get? |
| 03:01.58 | aleph0 | grub or lilo... currently lilo |
| 03:02.07 | aleph0 | I don't know. it's a remote system |
| 03:02.21 | aleph0 | I can just say that it doesn't ever get to writing in the logs |
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| 03:02.54 | enveezee | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:03.49 | ricky | aleph0: Do you have any known working configuration to fall back on (in terms of at least booting a kernel)? |
| 03:04.23 | aleph0 | I'm not sure.... |
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| 03:04.47 | enveezee | for some reason its not liking this line ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/| cut -d . -f 1 | uniq | tr "\n" " " | xargs apt-get install |
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| 03:05.03 | aleph0 | I plastered the root directory with a debootstrap a while age as an attempt to fix my brocken etch |
| 03:05.26 | aleph0 | the last proper boot was yesterday with sarge ... but I changed a lot since then I guess... |
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| 03:06.06 | ricky | And there's no way for you to get physical access? Is there a lot of important data? |
| 03:06.11 | aleph0 | but I can chroot into the system from the rescue system... |
| 03:06.33 | aleph0 | no. the server is half way accross the country at a hosting-provider |
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| 03:06.41 | enveezee | hmm thats not installing anything |
| 03:06.48 | khermans | how can i mark a package as "Not Installed" using aptitude? |
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| 03:06.58 | khermans | and then set it back |
| 03:07.05 | wols_ | khermans: by removing it |
| 03:07.20 | wols_ | khermans: what do you want to do and why? |
| 03:07.33 | khermans | wols_, the reason is that I corrupted some parts of my filesystem |
| 03:07.41 | aleph0 | do you have any suggestions? |
| 03:07.43 | khermans | some files are fine, but i dont knwo which are corrupted |
| 03:07.45 | wols_ | khermans: so reinstall the package |
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| 03:07.46 | aleph0 | please |
| 03:07.51 | urv | aleph0: is maybe your fstab messed up? |
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| 03:08.01 | khermans | wols_, exactly, i dont know which package's files are affected |
| 03:08.14 | khermans | so i wanted to do aptitutde reinstall ~i |
| 03:08.41 | khermans | but DEBs that I inserted outside of a repo are causing issues, like frostwire |
| 03:08.43 | aleph0 | hm... maybe I have to change device names in fstab.... |
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| 03:08.47 | aleph0 | I'll check |
| 03:08.55 | khermans | aleph0, related to 1? |
| 03:08.58 | khermans | :-P |
| 03:09.06 | Guerin | 0=null |
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| 03:10.31 | khermans | --> Writing extended state information... Error!E: I wasn't able to locate file for the frostwire package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. |
| 03:10.44 | khermans | --> aptitude reinstall ~i |
| 03:11.53 | aleph0 | nope no boot |
| 03:11.55 | aleph0 | :( |
| 03:12.04 | khermans | aleph0, what are you trying to do? |
| 03:13.07 | aleph0 | I have a remote system. tried to upgrade to etch. now disaster... from rescue system I can access it but can't get it to boot. no logs to read. can't see boot messages as the system is remote |
| 03:13.10 | aleph0 | I'm lost |
| 03:13.16 | \amethyst | khermans: is this etch, sid, or what? |
| 03:13.32 | khermans | \amethyst, sid |
| 03:13.43 | \amethyst | khermans: aptitude reinstall ~i~Aunstable |
| 03:13.56 | khermans | aleph0, you can ssh to it thought? |
| 03:14.25 | khermans | \amethyst, ~A is auto? |
| 03:14.34 | aleph0 | from a rescue system. (I can remotely boot the server into the rescue system of my hosting provider) |
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| 03:14.51 | ricky | aleph0: Would it be horrible costly/inconvenient to back important files/reinstall (etch to begin with)? At this point, it seems pretty impossible to diagnose remotely. |
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| 03:15.12 | aleph0 | but how?! |
| 03:15.16 | \amethyst | khermans: Afoo is "available from the 'foo' archive" |
| 03:15.35 | khermans | \amethyst, yeah i caught that in /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README after i asked :-P |
| 03:15.38 | aleph0 | I even did the etch-debootstrap onto the root dir -> still no boot |
| 03:15.44 | ricky | aleph0: What are the capabilities of the rescue system? |
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| 03:15.54 | aleph0 | I can't seem to get from rescue system into etch no matter what I do. |
| 03:15.57 | xerophyte | xterm: unable to open font "-*-fixed-medium-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-iso8895-*", trying "fixed".... how can i fix this ? |
| 03:16.13 | aleph0 | I don't know the rescue system well.... :( |
| 03:16.39 | aleph0 | it seems very versatile |
| 03:16.49 | khermans | aleph0, did you chroot? |
| 03:16.52 | ricky | aleph0: Well, if you can get a chroot, you can edit files, etc, right? |
| 03:16.59 | aleph0 | yes |
| 03:17.21 | khermans | aleph0, you may need to bind /dev and other trees |
| 03:17.29 | khermans | when you chroot |
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| 03:17.41 | aleph0 | I don't know what that means exactly |
| 03:17.42 | ricky | aleph0: Well, if worst comes to worse, it should be possible to reinstall (I think). Otherwise, start by checking if the lilo configuration is correct. |
| 03:18.10 | ricky | aleph0: Well, before that, see if any logs were written to- that'll help let you know how far the booting gets. |
| 03:18.21 | dasunt | Is it possible to resize a mounted lvm partition under debian? |
| 03:18.24 | aleph0 | well I read that what was /dev/hda before now is /dev/sda ... so I changed fstab and lilo.conf to sda. the only problem is that in the rescue system it's still hda |
| 03:18.39 | aleph0 | no logs were written to |
| 03:18.56 | aleph0 | none. zip. this system has never properly booted |
| 03:19.07 | aleph0 | the last entry in any log is from yesterday under sarge |
| 03:19.08 | ricky | OK- that's good knowledge. |
| 03:19.29 | ricky | So the first step would probably be to make sure that lilo.conf/fstab are right to begin with. |
| 03:19.36 | ricky | What do you mean it's still hda? |
| 03:19.56 | aleph0 | and may I point out: worst has come to worst |
| 03:20.03 | Guerin | aleph0: sata? |
| 03:20.06 | aleph0 | the rescue system reads the disk as /dev/hda |
| 03:20.12 | khermans | aleph0, everything is recoverable if you have the knowledge |
| 03:20.24 | aleph0 | but apparently etch will see it as /dev/sda.... |
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| 03:20.36 | khermans | aleph0, could this be a factor of libata ? |
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| 03:21.00 | aleph0 | sorry? |
| 03:21.06 | khermans | aleph0, pass the kernel option to disable libata or use the old method if you wish, but you shoudlnt need that |
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| 03:21.20 | khermans | aleph0, why does it matter if it is sda or hda? |
| 03:21.26 | khermans | its still the same device |
| 03:21.43 | aleph0 | will I have to write hda or sda in lilo.conf and fstab ans such. |
| 03:21.45 | khermans | i would fdisk it to ensure that your assumption that it is the same is correct as well |
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| 03:21.51 | Guerin | khermans: tell that to the bootloade which doesn't know where to find a kernel |
| 03:22.08 | Guerin | different kernels use sda/hda for sata |
| 03:22.14 | khermans | Guerin, sure, but why are we still using lilo ??!?? |
| 03:22.14 | aleph0 | I have never managed to boot into the etch system so I don't actually know what the device names are in etch! |
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| 03:22.17 | Guerin | so I expect that's the problem |
| 03:22.25 | Guerin | khermans: i can answer that question. |
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| 03:22.31 | enveezee | how can I take the ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/| cut -d . -f 1 | uniq info and get it to straighten out my /var/lib/dpkg/status file? |
| 03:22.48 | aleph0 | and my rescue system -> the one I'm in now does not have any sda devices |
| 03:23.12 | holycow | *hmm* |
| 03:23.18 | aleph0 | correction: it does. but that's not the hard disk |
| 03:23.22 | holycow | i have one box that after a while sets the file system to read only it seems |
| 03:23.38 | holycow | what generic circumstances might lead to this happening repeatedly? |
| 03:23.41 | khermans | holycow, a remote or local file system? |
| 03:23.47 | holycow | local strangely |
| 03:24.00 | \amethyst | holycow: grievous filesystem errors? |
| 03:24.01 | khermans | the root partition? |
| 03:24.02 | yoshio | enveezee: will probably be faster to do ls /usr/share/doc/ | tr "\n" " " | xargs apt-get install (Debian policy says that each package must have docs in /usr/share/doc). also, my "ls" is aliased to "ls -F" among other things, so that my directories have a trailing "/", so do "/bin/ls" at the beginning to get rid of that |
| 03:24.11 | khermans | holycow, try fsck |
| 03:24.21 | holycow | khermans, it seems all of it yes ... \amethyst you must be right |
| 03:25.12 | enveezee | yoshio: I know all the package names are showing up in there, but I don't know how to get the status of them set to install, I tried piping it to apt-get install and --reinstall but no go.. the status file seems to require a lot more info than just the package name |
| 03:25.15 | khermans | \amethyst, that aptitude hack saved my corrupted file system :-) |
| 03:25.27 | aleph0 | So how do I install lilo correctly? |
| 03:25.37 | enveezee | yoshio: I'd need info from apt-cache show for each one or somewhere |
| 03:25.38 | khermans | all packages replaced all corrupted or inode-fscked entries |
| 03:26.00 | aleph0 | "Once you are running a etch kernel and udev, you may reconfigure your system to access disks by an alias that is not dependent upon driver load order. These aliases reside in the /dev/disk/ hierarchy." |
| 03:26.01 | khermans | aleph0, can you install grub instead? |
| 03:26.14 | aleph0 | so what would my /dev/hda equate to? /dev/disk/what |
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| 03:26.38 | aleph0 | yes I can install grub. but I don't see how that changes anything. I've been trying to boot with grub too... |
| 03:26.56 | enveezee | yoshio: and it looks like it truncates its descriptions to the first two lines in that file |
| 03:27.11 | ricky | aleph0: Can you pastebin your grub configuration? |
| 03:27.43 | \amethyst | aleph0: look in /dev/disk/by-id/ |
| 03:28.09 | ricky | Hmm... does installing grub automatically run grub-install? |
| 03:28.52 | yoshio | enveezee: dpkg --set-selections |
| 03:29.16 | aleph0 | I don't have the /dev/disk/ folder as I can't boot into the system. |
| 03:29.18 | yoshio | enveezee: did you do an aptitude update first? |
| 03:29.18 | enveezee | yoshio: ah that might work |
| 03:29.23 | khermans | aleph0, i know exactly what your issue is :-) |
| 03:29.38 | \amethyst | aleph0: I mean from the rescue CD |
| 03:29.46 | enveezee | yoshio: yeah this system is sarge I'm trying to upgrade it to etch but it thinks there are only like 67 packages installed when there is lik 1110 |
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| 03:30.08 | enveezee | yoshio: I'll see if I can do it with --set-selctions I didn't think of that |
| 03:30.33 | aleph0 | \amethyst: no rescue CD. it's a rescue system of my hosting provider. I can enable it then reboot via the website of my provider |
| 03:30.38 | urv | enveezee: did you changed the sources.list? and dist-upgrade instead of upgrade? |
| 03:30.58 | yoshio | enveezee: that's a lot of work, the line with xargs should have worked - I once screwed up my system, and re-installed with all the names in /usr/share/doc |
| 03:31.17 | enveezee | urv: yes of course, but the problem is it doesnt even know like 1039 packages that are installed are installed ok |
| 03:31.29 | aleph0 | http://rafb.net/p/H9ni2W89.html |
| 03:31.49 | enveezee | yoshio: it's telling me that --set-selections doesn't take any arguments. |
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| 03:31.59 | enveezee | what's that factiod for this.. |
| 03:32.10 | enveezee | !listvals --get-selctions |
| 03:32.11 | dpkg | Factoid search of '--get-selctions' by value returned no results. |
| 03:32.17 | enveezee | !listvals --get-selections |
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| 03:32.18 | dpkg | Factoid search of '--get-selections' by value (4): list all packages ;; debian clone ;; package reselect ;; reinstall. |
| 03:32.20 | khermans | aleph0, first you need to mount -o bind /dev /mnt/debian/dev |
| 03:32.34 | enveezee | debian clone |
| 03:32.36 | khermans | and the others that are missing |
| 03:32.37 | enveezee | !debian clone |
| 03:32.37 | dpkg | One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want. Run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". you may want to ask me about <aptitude clone> |
| 03:33.14 | aleph0 | khermans: done: mount -o bind dev.... |
| 03:33.32 | khermans | ok, now you should have your /dev bound |
| 03:33.37 | khermans | inside your chroot, right? |
| 03:34.01 | aleph0 | now I have the rescue system's dev in the chroot |
| 03:34.03 | aleph0 | yes |
| 03:34.05 | khermans | aleph0, do the same for /proc and /sys |
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| 03:34.43 | khermans | also ensure /dev/pts and /dev/shm are in the chroot |
| 03:34.51 | aleph0 | done |
| 03:35.02 | khermans | ok, now chroot |
| 03:35.21 | aleph0 | yes |
| 03:35.26 | khermans | once in, you should have /dev/hda now right? |
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| 03:35.34 | khermans | or whatever you wanted before |
| 03:35.42 | khermans | now run ... grub-install /dev/hda |
| 03:35.46 | khermans | or you can do it manually |
| 03:35.48 | khermans | grub |
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| 03:36.32 | khermans | root(hd0,0) |
| 03:36.33 | aleph0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.36 | khermans | setup(hd0) |
| 03:36.41 | aleph0 | is gub-install output |
| 03:36.53 | khermans | aleph0, you want sda or hda? |
| 03:37.02 | yoshio | enveezee: you can edit /var/lib/dpkg/status directly too, to mark them installed |
| 03:37.05 | khermans | i think you wanted sda right? |
| 03:37.25 | aleph0 | khermans: I have only one disk. and the rescue system knows it as /dev/hda |
| 03:37.39 | khermans | aleph0, ok then /dev/hda should be in your chroot |
| 03:37.42 | khermans | aleph0, is it? |
| 03:37.47 | ricky | I didn't think grub cared about hda/sda, etc. |
| 03:37.50 | aleph0 | yes |
| 03:37.55 | ricky | (It has it's own little naming system, right?) |
| 03:38.05 | enveezee | yoshio: yeah but the format of that file is complicated getting all that info isn't easy |
| 03:38.06 | khermans | aleph0, now type grub |
| 03:38.16 | enveezee | yoshio: the --set-selections I don't think is working |
| 03:38.17 | aleph0 | but "grub-install /dev/hda" gives /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. |
| 03:38.20 | aleph0 | typing grub |
| 03:38.35 | khermans | aleph0, now if your /boot is on the first partition of hda, |
| 03:38.36 | khermans | ? |
| 03:38.50 | khermans | type --> root (hd0,0) |
| 03:38.54 | enveezee | yoshio: I tried ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/| cut -d . -f 1 | uniq > selections to make a file but its not working |
| 03:38.57 | aleph0 | no. it's all /hda2 |
| 03:39.01 | khermans | then -> setup (hd0) |
| 03:39.04 | khermans | quit |
| 03:39.16 | enveezee | when I do the dpkg --set-selections < selections |
| 03:39.20 | khermans | then root (hd0,1) |
| 03:39.22 | aleph0 | root (hd0,1) |
| 03:39.38 | khermans | aleph0, it should come back with "Linux system found" |
| 03:39.55 | aleph0 | well not quite |
| 03:39.56 | aleph0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.31 | aleph0 | unless you mean Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 |
| 03:40.41 | yoshio | enveezee: did you put the word "install" after each package name? |
| 03:41.01 | enveezee | yoshio: oh just with a space or what? |
| 03:41.02 | khermans | aleph0, did you do setup (hd0) ? |
| 03:41.09 | khermans | now quit |
| 03:41.19 | khermans | then reboot... see if your system works |
| 03:41.21 | yoshio | enveezee: in the file 'selections'? it looks like a few tabs, don't think it matters |
| 03:41.34 | aleph0 | khermans: http://rafb.net/p/l0hEFn63.html |
| 03:41.37 | enveezee | yoshio: no : just whitespace? |
| 03:41.44 | khermans | aleph0, the problem was your rescue system pwning yer /dev tree |
| 03:42.03 | khermans | aleph0, you are done my friend |
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| 03:42.40 | khermans | aleph0, say hello to aleph1 for me |
| 03:42.46 | khermans | :-P |
| 03:42.47 | aleph0 | can I reboot? |
| 03:42.48 | aleph0 | !yes |
| 03:42.48 | dpkg | really??? wohoo! |
| 03:42.50 | khermans | yup |
| 03:42.57 | aleph0 | ok. here goes... |
| 03:43.01 | yoshio | enveezee: I did a "dpkg --get-selections | od -a", and there are six "ht" (tabs) between the package name and "install", then a newline |
| 03:43.23 | yoshio | enveezee: I'm guessing a single space or tab is OK |
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| 03:44.53 | enveezee | yoshio: dpkg: unknown wanted status at line 1: installed, I guess I need to try a tab char \t I guess |
| 03:45.03 | khermans | ricky, are we taking bets? |
| 03:45.23 | ricky | heh. |
| 03:45.28 | khermans | i am in love with debian |
| 03:45.42 | enveezee | yoshio: nope thats not working either |
| 03:45.44 | yoshio | enveezee: "install", not "installed" |
| 03:45.47 | khermans | i run ubuntu, but i love Ian Murdock, it's my secret affair |
| 03:45.52 | enveezee | yoshio: oh |
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| 03:46.33 | aleph0 | khermans: ... I can't talk to the server... no response.... |
| 03:46.45 | khermans | O_o ? |
| 03:46.50 | ricky | Darn. |
| 03:46.51 | enveezee | yoshio: yay ;) |
| 03:47.08 | khermans | aleph0, well grub definitely installed correctly |
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| 03:47.33 | khermans | aleph0, your fstab was /dev/sda right? |
| 03:47.40 | aleph0 | no hda |
| 03:47.41 | yoshio | enveezee: you can mark packages as "to be installed" in aptitude, I'm guessing that it changes the line in the status file from "Status: purge ok not-installed", changing "purge" to "install", and aptitude should add the extra lines when the package is installed |
| 03:47.44 | khermans | :-( |
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| 03:47.56 | khermans | aleph0, you said only the resuce system used hda |
| 03:47.59 | aleph0 | should I change it to sda? |
| 03:48.07 | khermans | aleph0, yes in fstab |
| 03:48.12 | aleph0 | I said that I 'think' that etch uses sda |
| 03:48.20 | aleph0 | because that's what the release notes suggested |
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| 03:49.53 | aleph0 | so I'm chaning it to sda and trying to reboot |
| 03:50.16 | aleph0 | what about all those 'hda' things in grubs menu.lst I have to change those too right? |
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| 03:51.21 | enveezee | yoshio: its upgrading to sarge now with the apt-get --dselect-upgrade |
| 03:52.00 | yoshio | enveezee: you were on woody??? |
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| 03:52.06 | enveezee | yoshio: sarge |
| 03:52.22 | enveezee | yoshio: I'm upgrading to etch |
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| 03:52.35 | khermans | aleph0, yes |
| 03:52.43 | yoshio | enveezee: oh, ok :-) |
| 03:53.13 | aleph0 | no boot. no ping. |
| 03:53.34 | khermans | aleph0, did you change them both? |
| 03:53.47 | aleph0 | yes. menu.lst and fstab |
| 03:53.56 | khermans | aleph0, only other possibility is kernel panic on boot |
| 03:54.03 | khermans | aleph0, assuming it boots right |
| 03:54.27 | khermans | aleph0, it shyoudl boot |
| 03:54.30 | khermans | i do this all the time |
| 03:54.53 | khermans | i find pleasure in resurrecting broken systems, |
| 03:54.57 | aleph0 | it's 6 in the morning here and by 8 my boss is going to kill me :( |
| 03:55.08 | khermans | aleph0, ok dude, well ... |
| 03:55.12 | aleph0 | hehe |
| 03:55.14 | aleph0 | I'm dead |
| 03:55.19 | khermans | aleph0, what did you break? |
| 03:55.31 | enveezee | I got a whole new problem it says its going to fetch 908MB of archives that will take up 2.4gb of additional space, when I only have 1.8 left as / is only 5gb but it doesn't know half of them are already installed so I don't know if I need to repartition or not |
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| 03:55.40 | khermans | aleph0, germany? |
| 03:55.44 | aleph0 | yes |
| 03:56.05 | aleph0 | is this the time to wipe the disk and try a new system ans resurrect all services from backups |
| 03:56.10 | enveezee | I'd hate to run out of space during install but I may have enough to recover it as it removes/replaces other packages |
| 03:56.44 | enveezee | then again is it going to do that when it doesnt currently know the packages being installed from etch are already install from sarge |
| 03:57.21 | khermans | aleph0, i dont knwo what you broke |
| 03:57.22 | khermans | "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle." |
| 03:57.33 | yoshio | enveezee: you could control-c out of apt-get, and do apt-get autoclean (this deletes files in the cache that are obsolete) - don't do 'clean' - that wipes out all files in the cache |
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| 03:57.52 | sleek | hi |
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| 03:58.20 | sleek | I am trying to use obexpushd to accept a file from my mobile, but the daemon is stuck |
| 03:58.28 | aleph0 | khermans: one more thing |
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| 03:58.33 | khermans | ? |
| 03:58.41 | sleek | and the handset says, waiting for the other device to accept item |
| 03:58.42 | enveezee | yoshio: I cleaned before I started all this |
| 03:58.43 | yoshio | aleph0: could you have someone connect a monitor to the remote system, and watching for bootup messages for you? |
| 03:58.50 | aleph0 | which kernel should I use as the one that is most likely to work? |
| 03:58.58 | sleek | .1: size: 3360768 bytes |
| 03:58.58 | sleek | 0.1: got 968 bytes of streamed data |
| 03:58.58 | enveezee | yoshio: auto-clean does it as it installs? |
| 03:59.02 | sleek | it's stuck there |
| 03:59.03 | aleph0 | the -k7 or the -486 |
| 03:59.06 | aleph0 | on a sempron |
| 03:59.21 | khermans | aleph0, -386 is obviously the least common denominator |
| 03:59.28 | khermans | -486 is next |
| 03:59.30 | aleph0 | yoshio: maybe... just maybe when the techs start working at the hosting providers site.... |
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| 03:59.53 | yoshio | enveezee: no |
| 04:00.08 | aleph0 | I don't have a 386 linux-image in apt-cache |
| 04:00.11 | khermans | aleph0, why did you break it? |
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| 04:00.41 | aleph0 | I did'nt think upgrading to etch would cause me any problems. but I guess I messed up big time. |
| 04:03.50 | khermans | aleph0, can you downgrade? |
| 04:03.59 | khermans | aleph0, this is a production machine? |
| 04:04.33 | aleph0 | I'll downgrade... right now I'll take anything to get it running again... |
| 04:04.34 | wols_ | aleph0: what cpu? |
| 04:04.38 | yoshio | enveezee: if you run out of room, you may be able to do "dpkg --pending", and doing apt-get dist-upgrade again, to start off where you left off |
| 04:04.48 | aleph0 | AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+ |
| 04:04.56 | wols_ | k7 then |
| 04:05.16 | wols_ | also, don't know if it was already asked: what is in your bootloader and fstab/ hda or sda? |
| 04:05.25 | ricky | aleph0: Is there any extremely important data, etc. on the machine? |
| 04:05.49 | wols_ | aleph0: back up the data you need and reinstall |
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| 04:05.56 | wols_ | real reinstall this time :) |
| 04:06.08 | aleph0 | didn't work either way -> sda nor hda |
| 04:06.26 | khermans | aleph0, something is messed up in your install |
| 04:06.33 | aleph0 | right. |
| 04:06.36 | khermans | aleph0, also, i hoe you did an aptitude sit-upgrade |
| 04:06.43 | aleph0 | sit? |
| 04:06.56 | khermans | aleph0, and multiple times, since sometimes dist-upgrade can fail in processing the first time |
| 04:07.04 | khermans | dist-upgrade |
| 04:07.12 | aleph0 | I did dist-upgrade multiple times |
| 04:07.17 | khermans | or in your case, shit-upgrade |
| 04:07.22 | aleph0 | indeed. |
| 04:08.26 | khermans | aleph0, in order to debug this you need to see if you get past grub, etc -- biut its easier to just backup + reinstall |
| 04:08.43 | aleph0 | I'll do that now. I've run out of time... |
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| 04:09.10 | khermans | aleph0, save /etc, /home, and package listing |
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| 04:09.53 | aleph0 | actually I'm just checking if I can just restore everything from our dar backup |
| 04:10.06 | aleph0 | I have a dar backup of all files |
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| 04:12.57 | litage_ | when i run ``apt-get install --download-only php-pear'' why does apt say "The following extra packages will be installed: php5-common"? i'm not wanting to install php-pear. i only want to download the .deb |
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| 04:15.56 | thelostbutler | hello folks. i am trying to configure to allow sudo to allow a user to run sshfs. i have sudoers file as user ALL = /bin/mount /usr/bin/sshfs /usr/bin/fusermount but when i do sudo sshfs -o sshfs_sync user@hostn:dir . it says user not allowed to run this command |
| 04:16.00 | thelostbutler | would appreciate some help |
| 04:16.13 | sleek | rm all... RM ALLLLL HAHAHAHAHAHA |
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| 04:17.09 | Staz | hrmm, does crontab use the 'sh' shell by default? |
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| 04:21.23 | deadcat | something wrong with the mount command/package? i cant seem to mount my /dev/sda1. it just waits and 100% cpu |
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| 04:23.38 | GreaseMonkey | deadcat, i don't even have a /dev/sda1 |
| 04:23.50 | ec_ | I have problems with corrupted terminal text in my new debian unstable installation |
| 04:23.52 | GreaseMonkey | i've got a similar problem |
| 04:24.01 | GreaseMonkey | i'm just trying to mount it |
| 04:24.16 | ec_ | I get things like "man is the systemâs manual pager." in `man manan` |
| 04:24.20 | deadcat | GreaseMonkey: ah. yours must be a ntfs? mine is just a thumb drive. |
| 04:24.23 | ec_ | man* |
| 04:24.33 | ricky | Hehe. Problems + unstable - scary. |
| 04:24.45 | deadcat | GreaseMonkey: it mounts on my stable and unstable ppc,, just not unstable x86 |
| 04:24.46 | ec_ | and similar characters in curses dialogs instead of lines/borders |
| 04:25.02 | ricky | Funny- I don't see any corrupted-looking text. |
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| 04:26.11 | ec_ | ricky: what does "systemâs l" loo"k like to you? |
| 04:26.15 | GreaseMonkey | deadcat, mine is a thumbdrive |
| 04:26.25 | ec_ | wow this is messing up a lot :) |
| 04:26.31 | ec_ | "systemâs" |
| 04:26.35 | ricky | ec_: Oh, now I see a pipe there. |
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| 04:26.53 | deadcat | GreaseMonkey: lets conclude its the mount package is broken. (= |
| 04:27.07 | GreaseMonkey | no, /dev/sda1 is missing |
| 04:27.31 | deadcat | GreaseMonkey: lets conclude something is broken (= |
| 04:27.34 | GreaseMonkey | hey, i'm trying to mount my USB drive, but i can't find the device, as there is no /dev/sda1 for some stupid reason |
| 04:27.50 | GreaseMonkey | how the f' can they call etch "stable"? |
| 04:27.55 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: so find out what device it is |
| 04:28.01 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: what's unstable about it? |
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| 04:28.17 | GreaseMonkey | well, i've had two problems with it so far |
| 04:28.24 | holycow | etch is current stable right? |
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| 04:28.29 | Guerin | holycow: 1 |
| 04:28.30 | ricky | Yup. |
| 04:28.33 | holycow | danke |
| 04:28.36 | ricky | (As confirmed by /topic) |
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| 04:28.55 | GreaseMonkey | where the hell are usb disks located in /dev/* in etch? |
| 04:29.21 | vorpal | GreaseMonkey: /dev/sd* probably |
| 04:29.22 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: sd* - check dmesg or fdisk -l |
| 04:30.05 | GreaseMonkey | FAT: invalid media value (0xa5) / VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda. |
| 04:30.22 | GreaseMonkey | i generally acronym this, but what the fuck? it works on everything else |
| 04:30.35 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: sda or sda1? |
| 04:30.36 | vorpal | GreaseMonkey: define "Everything else" |
| 04:30.37 | GreaseMonkey | worked on sarge |
| 04:30.49 | GreaseMonkey | worked on knoppix 3.4 |
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| 04:31.00 | Guerin | because sda probably won't contain a filesystem |
| 04:31.08 | Guerin | (though some devices do) |
| 04:31.16 | GreaseMonkey | with sarge, it was /dev/sda1 |
| 04:31.43 | Guerin | what does fdisk -l |grep sd yield (as root) |
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| 04:32.43 | GreaseMonkey | Disk /dev/sda: 1027 MB, 1027080192 bytes | 253 heads, 32 sectors/track, 247 cylinders | Units = cylinders of 8096 * 512 = 4145152 bytes | This doesn't look like a partition table / Probably you selected the wrong device. |
| 04:32.44 | GreaseMonkey | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:32.50 | Guerin | ffs |
| 04:32.51 | GreaseMonkey | i bloody hope it ain't corrupted |
| 04:33.07 | Guerin | that wasn't what i asked for, and wtf are you pasting? |
| 04:33.48 | Guerin | and what is the output of mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /wtf |
| 04:34.15 | GreaseMonkey | it's not corrupted, works on xp |
| 04:34.34 | Guerin | that doesn't mean it's not corrupted |
| 04:34.35 | GreaseMonkey | Guerin, there is no /dev/sda1 |
| 04:34.40 | Guerin | it just means it works on xp |
| 04:34.47 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: yes, there manifestly is |
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| 04:34.56 | GreaseMonkey | it works on knoppix, it works on sarge |
| 04:35.02 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: though if you unplugged and re-plugged it, it may have changed |
| 04:35.09 | ricky | Funny. My USB stick is /dev/sdb |
| 04:35.14 | Guerin | so will you just give me the fucking output |
| 04:35.16 | GreaseMonkey | # ls /dev/sd* |
| 04:35.16 | GreaseMonkey | /dev/sda |
| 04:35.20 | Guerin | instead of pissing and moaning |
| 04:35.29 | ricky | Aha. |
| 04:35.35 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: that's not what fdisk-l said. What did you change? |
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| 04:35.46 | GreaseMonkey | mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist |
| 04:35.48 | ShockValue | hi everyone.. ive been a light linux user off and on.. this week M$ has totally pissed me off, so I thought I'd give Debian a go. Which "version" should I grab if im looking for the most up-to-date stuff? (Is this in a FAQ someplace? I couldnt find it :) |
| 04:35.56 | GreaseMonkey | Guerin, i didn't change a thing |
| 04:36.10 | GreaseMonkey | apart from reinsertion |
| 04:36.13 | ricky | ShockValue: I'd probably go with testing. |
| 04:36.20 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: unplug, replug, and look at the output of dmesg |
| 04:36.26 | Guerin | !ig |
| 04:36.26 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide .. see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0r0 (Stable as of April 8, 2007) .. or see http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1 ... 3.1r5). Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 04:36.33 | Guerin | ShockValue: âread that |
| 04:36.48 | ShockValue | roger that, thank you |
| 04:36.53 | aleph0 | ShockValue: try ubuntu is you want up to date stuff ;) |
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| 04:37.17 | Guerin | aleph0: if you could pimp your favourite distro somplace else |
| 04:37.19 | ShockValue | isnt ubuntu all wrapped up in gnome? |
| 04:37.27 | ricky | aleph0: Hey! :p |
| 04:37.33 | aleph0 | hehe |
| 04:37.34 | Guerin | ShockValue: quite. |
| 04:37.44 | ShockValue | im not a gnome fan... so i think ill skip that :) |
| 04:37.52 | aleph0 | actually my fav. distro is not ubuntu Guerin |
| 04:38.06 | ShockValue | im more of a KDE kinda guy (for as little as Ive used linux :) |
| 04:38.38 | Guerin | ShockValue: debian will install gnome by default if you choose `desktop environment' but installing kde instead is quite easy |
| 04:38.56 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: reinsertion can change things - that's my point |
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| 04:39.10 | aleph0 | well in debian (and ubuntu) isntalling kde should be no major problem |
| 04:39.12 | GreaseMonkey | still no sda1, pastebinning |
| 04:39.42 | GreaseMonkey | http://rafb.net/p/ekBJZg75.html |
| 04:40.36 | GreaseMonkey | i'm trying to recall the offset= hack |
| 04:40.38 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: and fdisk -l? |
| 04:41.18 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: it looks like the partition table is b0rk; unless there is no partition table and the device is simply meant to be mounted as sda |
| 04:41.21 | vorpal | sda: unknown partition table <-- that can't be good |
| 04:41.37 | Guerin | well, a windows partition table can often throw that error |
| 04:41.42 | vorpal | did you format it? |
| 04:41.47 | Guerin | just because they're usually quite stupid and broken |
| 04:42.16 | GreaseMonkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.16 | GreaseMonkey | /dev/sda1 ? 1 248 1002992 b W95 FAT32 |
| 04:42.39 | Guerin | so fdisk -l thinks there's a sda1, but the kernel doesn't. |
| 04:42.51 | Guerin | and it usually mounts as sda1? |
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| 04:43.06 | GreaseMonkey | yes |
| 04:43.07 | vorpal | Guerin: i remember reading somewhere that formatting a flash drive is bad voodoo, unless you know what you are doing |
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| 04:43.20 | GreaseMonkey | tried using dosfsck but it ain't working too well: |
| 04:43.21 | khermans | vorpal, nonsense |
| 04:43.21 | GreaseMonkey | dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN |
| 04:43.21 | GreaseMonkey | Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 6. |
| 04:43.29 | Guerin | vorpal: not really. Though if it's an embedded device it can brek the device's magic numbers. |
| 04:43.34 | ShockValue | hah,, well the online distro chooser thingy just suggested i use Debian :) (or freespire, whatever that is) |
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| 04:43.43 | jzxu | anyone know how to look up the client ids recorded in /var/log/acpid ? |
| 04:43.53 | vorpal | khermans: i know, i've formatted flash as ext2 before, and no problems |
| 04:43.54 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: i'm guessing some windows box has broken the partition table at some point |
| 04:44.15 | Guerin | ShockValue: freespire is a windows clone |
| 04:44.21 | ShockValue | oh, yuck |
| 04:44.58 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: do you need the data on it? |
| 04:45.04 | GreaseMonkey | Guerin, yes |
| 04:45.16 | holycow | what is the clever appending of $uname -r type of thing to apt-get install linux-image- to automagically install linux headers for currently running kernel? |
| 04:45.17 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: ok. Do you have another random *n?x box handy? |
| 04:45.26 | holycow | proper syntax rather |
| 04:45.29 | GreaseMonkey | Guerin, no |
| 04:45.34 | Guerin | holycow: linux-image-$(uname -r) |
| 04:45.35 | GreaseMonkey | sadly |
| 04:45.41 | holycow | doh! danke sir, very kindly |
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| 04:45.56 | GreaseMonkey | hmm, i could try and butcher an image of it |
| 04:46.09 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: then mount the thing on your xp box, dump the data off, nuke the partition table using cfdisk, and write a clean vfat to it |
| 04:46.28 | GreaseMonkey | ok |
| 04:46.28 | Guerin | holycow: or linux-whatever$( |
| 04:47.00 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: it's best that you make the partition table in debian rather than windows, because MS arbitrarily fuck up partitioning and stuff |
| 04:47.04 | holycow | *nod* i was missing the parantheses there, danke |
| 04:47.12 | GreaseMonkey | true. |
| 04:47.18 | Guerin | between versions - ie, w2k and wxp do it differently |
| 04:48.35 | Guerin | for no especially good reason |
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| 04:49.34 | yoshio | GreaseMonkey: you can try sudo fdisk /dev/sda ; do a "p" to print the partition table", and "w" to write it, and exit, and see if that mounts. worked for me once. |
| 04:49.46 | Guerin | mm, good point |
| 04:49.57 | Guerin | sometimes that will Just Work |
| 04:50.01 | GreaseMonkey | yoshio: just doing a dump of the disk, it's a 1gB |
| 04:50.26 | GreaseMonkey | small g as it's not a genuine 1024^3 GB, just the lameass 1000^3 |
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| 04:51.45 | Guerin | bad kitteh, political science texts are not yummy |
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| 04:52.16 | mosno | lol Guerin |
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| 04:53.17 | Gigantic | .!boo |
| 04:53.22 | wols_ | Guerin: no "goes witha fine chianti and chiava beans"? |
| 04:53.46 | Guerin | Danger doesn't like chianti; he prefers fish guts |
| 04:54.05 | Guerin | and coffee straight out of the cup |
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| 04:59.58 | Guerin | he can fit most of his head into a cup, but hasn't yet figured out how to work a plunger |
| 05:00.10 | Guerin | let alone boil milk |
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| 05:05.39 | nima | Hello |
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| 05:06.02 | nima | Aptitude is giving me a weird error |
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| 05:06.08 | nima | Uncaught exception: ../../../src/generic/problemresolver/problemresolver.h:2216: generic_problem_resolver<PackageUniverse>::generic_problem_resolver(int, int, int, int, unsigned int, int, const PackageUniverse&) [with PackageUniverse = aptitude_universe]: Assertion "bd.broken_under(solution::root_node(initial_broken, universe, weights))" failed. |
| 05:06.49 | nima | Anyone know what it means? |
| 05:08.20 | Guerin | nima: it means 'try that again and if it keeps happening file a bug' |
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| 05:08.39 | floppyears | hi |
| 05:08.55 | floppyears | I'm having problems enabling php5 support with apache2 |
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| 05:09.13 | floppyears | I know the webserver is up and running because I can access the ~username directory on the web |
| 05:10.15 | wad | Hi, folks. Quick question for ya. I did "apt-get install dansguardian", but it complained about something in the config file. It said: "The home directory `/var/log/dansguardian' already exists. Not copying from `/etc/skel'. adduser: Warning: that home directory does not belong to the user you are currently creating. DansGuardian has not been configured! Please edit /etc/dansguardian/dansguardian.conf manually then rerun this script." |
| 05:10.32 | wad | So, I edited the file, and I'd like it to proceed... how do I tell which script it's trying to run? |
| 05:10.35 | wad | So that I can rerun it? |
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| 05:12.11 | Guerin | wad: try installing it again |
| 05:12.15 | floppyears | when I try to view a php file, instead of the web server render it |
| 05:12.22 | floppyears | ff tries to download it :( |
| 05:12.26 | floppyears | any hints/help ? |
| 05:12.27 | wad | Guerin: I tried that: "apt-get install dansguardian" |
| 05:12.36 | wad | It said that it was already installed, and wouldn't do anything. :( |
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| 05:13.15 | Guerin | wad: consult the documentation then. it lives in /usr/share/doc/dansguardian |
| 05:13.25 | wad | Guerin: Allright, thanks! |
| 05:13.27 | Guerin | !php |
| 05:13.28 | dpkg | [php] #php or http://www.php.net/. Common installation methods include libapache-mod-php4(for apache1), libapache2-mod-php4(for apache2), php4-cli(CGI). PHP5 now in etch/sid. Don't forget to read http://www.php-security.org and http://www.hardened-php.net - use php4-suhosin/php5-suhosin, or see [php wants me to download still] |
| 05:13.39 | wad | floppyears: It should be pretty straitforward. I have it running on my system. |
| 05:14.03 | Guerin | floppyears: you haven't configured your webserver correctly. /msg dpkg php wants me to download still |
| 05:14.24 | wad | floppyears: Make sure that .. yeah, what Guerin said. :) |
| 05:14.29 | wad | Need to configure apache properly. |
| 05:14.33 | wad | google is your friend. |
| 05:14.50 | floppyears | yeah, I'm thinking it's something in apache that I haven't configured correctly |
| 05:14.59 | floppyears | but I know that debian stuff is different |
| 05:15.07 | floppyears | for example we use the command a2enmod to enable a module |
| 05:15.20 | floppyears | and I already have php5 module enabled using that command :( |
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| 05:15.54 | floppyears | never mind it's working :( |
| 05:16.15 | wad | floppyears: That's a happy thing. :) |
| 05:16.25 | wad | Wanna see my php site in action? frankfrazetta.org |
| 05:16.36 | floppyears | sure |
| 05:16.47 | GreaseMonkey | - it's currently doing the copying process |
| 05:17.02 | floppyears | wad: you drew all those images ? |
| 05:17.05 | holycow | wad, hes a great artist |
| 05:17.08 | wad | Heck no! |
| 05:17.14 | wad | I'm just a fan. |
| 05:18.02 | wad | When people click the ads, I get money from google. Feel free to click 'em... ;) |
| 05:18.15 | Guerin | ah, gods, wanktasy art |
| 05:18.25 | wad | lol@Guerin |
| 05:18.38 | Guerin | not QUITE the most overused form in existence, but close |
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| 05:19.01 | wad | Yeah, but see, this art is from the original master. |
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| 05:19.10 | wad | Most everything else is derivitave. |
| 05:19.28 | Guerin | i swear to christ if one more person shows me a chainmail bikini barbarianess painting i'm going to throttle them |
| 05:19.34 | Guerin | most everything ELSE? |
| 05:19.37 | holycow | haha! |
| 05:19.56 | Guerin | wanktasy art is the most derivative of all |
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| 05:20.09 | floppyears | wad: oh |
| 05:21.08 | wad | Frazetta rocks, in my book. But I totally understand: chainmail bikinis are pretty pathetic. |
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| 05:23.22 | Guerin | wad: yes, well, i guess this chap gets out of the chainmail bikini cliche by ... omitting the bikini altogether. Classy. |
| 05:23.34 | yoshio | wad: dpkg-reconfigure dansguardian or look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/dansguardian.{pre,post}inst |
| 05:24.00 | wad | heh |
| 05:24.12 | GreaseMonkey | cfdisk: FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition ends in the final partial cylind |
| 05:24.16 | GreaseMonkey | fdisk still works |
| 05:24.20 | wad | Guerin: To be more accurate, it's more like he instigated the whole genre. |
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| 05:24.45 | davidL | how can I disable sound in firefox? |
| 05:24.57 | wad | davidL: Unplug the speaker? |
| 05:24.57 | Guerin | wad: oh, ok. Well, in the immprtal words of Ordell Robbie, bully for that nigga. |
| 05:25.14 | Guerin | davidL: uninstall anything which wants to play sound. |
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| 05:25.42 | davidL | I still want to listen to music... |
| 05:25.42 | lekvar | Howcome a system would load a touchscreen driver when there isn't one? |
| 05:26.03 | davidL | does firefox use alsa or oss |
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| 05:27.02 | maxamillion | davidL: not to be rude, but why would you ask that here? ... first: this isn't #firefox, and second: debian doesn't use/offer/support firefox |
| 05:27.04 | Guerin | davidL: yes. What you want to disable is the plugin, not firefox's use of sound. |
| 05:27.15 | GreaseMonkey | Guerin: KDE Daemon window pops up: "A new medium has been detected. What do you want to do? Medium type: umounted removable medium" - icon of USB stick |
| 05:27.18 | GreaseMonkey | thanks Guerin |
| 05:27.26 | Guerin | davidL: firefox, natively, will never use sound; only java or flash or something evil like that will do so. |
| 05:27.27 | davidL | maxamillion: I meant iceweasel |
| 05:27.43 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: unfortunate that it took so much work. |
| 05:27.43 | GreaseMonkey | and there's now an sda1 |
| 05:28.02 | stylus | How do I add a user for shh access on my debian installation? |
| 05:28.09 | davidL | Guerin: I know, but I still want to use flash, otherwise I would have just navigated away from the page ;P |
| 05:28.10 | stylus | ssh* |
| 05:28.13 | GreaseMonkey | Guerin, i didn't even lose my data |
| 05:28.21 | Guerin | davidL: then mute the flash applet |
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| 05:28.44 | Guerin | GreaseMonkey: that's about all you can ask when a partition table gets busted ;) |
| 05:29.09 | Guerin | stylus: aptitude install ssh; any users will be able to ssh in |
| 05:29.13 | holycow | is anyone here running debian guest in vmware with vmware tools installed? |
| 05:29.19 | stylus | so i just add a normal account, Guerin? |
| 05:29.36 | holycow | i have the headers installed for my kernel but vmware refuses to acknowledge that ... just curious if there is a debian admin running this type of thing around |
| 05:29.39 | Guerin | !anyone use debian guest in vmware with vmware tools installed? |
| 05:29.39 | dpkg | No, no one uses debian guest in vmware with vmware tools installed, not even the people who use it. |
| 05:29.49 | holycow | lol |
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| 05:30.14 | aleph0 | holycow: look for the vmware any-any patch on google |
| 05:30.17 | Guerin | stylus: no. Install ssh. then any users you have will be able to log in. If you want to create a new user, that's another issue. |
| 05:30.29 | holycow | oh any any patch! i forgot! |
| 05:30.31 | holycow | danke! |
| 05:33.11 | Gigantic | any any patch is no longer required on 6 tho |
| 05:33.35 | Guerin | !vmware |
| 05:33.36 | dpkg | i guess vmware is Not Our Problem. If it was in debian, it would be, but since it ain't, it ain't. Ask the vendor for support. |
| 05:33.54 | Guerin | !vmware is also Or ask in #vmware. |
| 05:33.55 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
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| 05:38.02 | saintiss | hi all |
| 05:38.33 | saintiss | what's the conventional way to prevent an init.d script from starting at boot? |
| 05:38.33 | saintiss | update-rc.d -f remove ? |
| 05:38.33 | saintiss | seems somewhat drastic |
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| 05:38.52 | Guerin | saintiss: that only works until you upgrade te package, at which poin t it will restore defaults |
| 05:39.13 | saintiss | Guerin, right... so is there a more preferrable way? |
| 05:39.32 | Guerin | saintiss: you can change the S to a K, or better yet if there is a file in /etc/default/ you can often switch it to off in there |
| 05:39.45 | Guerin | most network services have such a mechanism |
| 05:40.05 | Guerin | of course, the best option is to just uninstall things you're not using |
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| 05:40.28 | saintiss | ic... |
| 05:40.33 | saintiss | well, it's actually mysql |
| 05:40.37 | saintiss | I use it in bursts |
| 05:40.51 | saintiss | and it doesn't seem to have a defaults file |
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| 05:41.09 | Guerin | change the rc[2345].d symlinks from S to K |
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| 05:41.25 | Guerin | or just 2 if that's all you use |
| 05:41.41 | saintiss | right... ok thanks |
| 05:41.43 | Guerin | you'll still be able to start it manually at will |
| 05:43.20 | artagnon | Can rscds work with MySQL as well? The documentation suggests PostgreSQL |
| 05:43.38 | Guerin | artagnon: you'd need to check the documentation. |
| 05:44.01 | artagnon | Guerin: It's here: http://rscds.sourceforge.net/installation.php |
| 05:44.11 | Guerin | artagnon: i'm not going to read it for you. |
| 05:44.21 | artagnon | It doesn't mention anything about using anything other than PostgreSQL |
| 05:44.25 | artagnon | you don't have to. I just read it |
| 05:44.41 | Guerin | artagnon: well, your options are to ask the devs, or try with mysql. |
| 05:44.54 | Guerin | i'm not sure how this becomes a debian issue |
| 05:45.25 | artagnon | well, it's an application that runs on debian as well. I don't see any harm asking in a debian channel |
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| 05:45.55 | artagnon | considering rscds channel has 3 people, the former option is eliminated |
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| 05:46.17 | Guerin | heh |
| 05:46.35 | Guerin | !info rscd |
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| 05:46.58 | artagnon | dpkg doesn't know anything about it either, it may seem |
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| 05:47.24 | phix | and neither do I :) what is it? some type of version control? |
| 05:47.28 | Guerin | yeah, not in debian, so NOFP |
| 05:47.43 | Guerin | oh |
| 05:47.47 | Guerin | !info rscds |
| 05:47.56 | Guerin | hm |
| 05:47.59 | Guerin | samesame |
| 05:48.12 | Guerin | artagnon: suck and see |
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| 05:48.49 | phix | heh |
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| 05:49.33 | artagnon | talk about being rude eh |
| 05:49.46 | artagnon | the poor kid doesn't have a sense of vocabulary |
| 05:50.11 | Guerin | ? |
| 05:50.16 | artagnon | next time, if you can't help, just say so |
| 05:50.53 | Guerin | i did help |
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| 05:50.57 | Guerin | well |
| 05:50.58 | matahari | hi folks |
| 05:51.06 | artagnon | shut up kid |
| 05:51.09 | Guerin | admittedly nothing you oughtn't have known already |
| 05:51.29 | Guerin | but since you appeared not to ... |
| 05:51.34 | artagnon | *yawn* |
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| 05:52.23 | matahari | is there a possibility that i can install debian by simply putting some data on the HDD? (the computer has no CD/Floppy Drive and PXE/BOOTP and USB-Booting seem not to work) |
| 05:52.29 | MangosDebian | Guerin: don't feel bad, the real slimbags just leave like that under a cloak to rejoin under a new nick either shortly before the planned /quit or moments later to bug you some more |
| 05:52.37 | kenji | hi guys, I have a old pc and I wanna install debian sarge because it don't need a lot of memory and proc speed, the sarge repos are working or I need to forgot the idea? |
| 05:53.02 | Guerin | MangosDebian: heh. If I felt bad about all the twats who got arsey at me for telling them to do their own legwork, I'd be an emo. |
| 05:53.06 | kenji | forget* |
| 05:53.24 | MangosDebian | Guerin: :) |
| 05:53.27 | kenji | can some one help me? |
| 05:53.34 | saintiss | kenji, are you saying etch is too heavy? |
| 05:53.40 | Guerin | matahari: yes, the best plan is probably to put the drive in another box, run the install, take it out and transplant. |
| 05:54.00 | Guerin | kenji: use etch. What sort of computer are we talking here? |
| 05:54.13 | predder | under a standard debian etch install, to modify the hostname on the prompt for all users, what file(s) should I be updating? |
| 05:54.14 | kenji | yes saintiss Im saying that |
| 05:54.17 | Guerin | there's no good reason to use sarge over etch; you can whittle etch down almost as small. |
| 05:54.29 | Guerin | predder: /etc/hostname? |
| 05:54.30 | matahari | Guerin: is it possibly to make this over USB too? it is a notebook-HDD and i have no notebook here at the moment |
| 05:54.30 | saintiss | kenji, >> Guerin |
| 05:54.49 | matahari | is there some OEM-Image somewhere or so? or an netinstall-Image |
| 05:54.54 | kenji | Guerin Im talking about 256ram, 4gb of hd and 333mhz amd proc |
| 05:54.58 | Guerin | matahari: mm, that's a bit more tricky, but still possible in theory using debootstrap and chroot |
| 05:55.19 | matahari | is there a howto somewhere? |
| 05:55.23 | predder | Guerin, prompt only, I want the hostname of the machine to stay the same. I'm guessing /etc/bash.bashrc but someone said /etc/profile |
| 05:55.41 | Guerin | kenji: plenty of grunt for etch. But to cut down on the install size, disable recommends: and don't install any of the tasks (desktop, etc) |
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| 05:55.57 | kenji | saintiss and Guerin, gnome 2.14 its to low and xfce its to bad for my mom, she need firefox and thunderbird, abiword and gnumeric and win98/office 97 and IE5.5 its a bether choice than etch for that hardware |
| 05:56.29 | Guerin | kenji: if you want to use windows, why aren't you? |
| 05:57.10 | saintiss | kenji, the window manager/desktop environment will indeed make a difference. Try fluxbox if you need lightweight? Although I wouldn't agree XFCE is bad either |
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| 05:57.22 | kenji | because I wanna usse a real desktop like gnome but the 2.14 etch its to low, she don't wanna wait 2 minutes to open firefox while she talk in gaim or she open a abiword file |
| 05:57.43 | Guerin | predder: yeah. /etc/profile is system-wide, you probably want to do this on a per-user basis (even for all users). read a bash prompt howto (there's one on tldp.org) and edit the files in /etc/skel/ when you're done |
| 05:57.48 | kenji | saintiss its for my mom, no fluxbox, no blacbox no windowmaker no xfce |
| 05:58.02 | kenji | no console ŽŽ |
| 05:58.02 | kenji | only mouse |
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| 05:58.19 | kenji | and sarge and gnome 2.8 and firefox 1.2 can do it :P |
| 05:58.26 | saintiss | kenji, can't you make xfce look like gnome? I'm sure you can... you don't need anything but a mouse indeed |
| 05:58.28 | kenji | can I use sarge repos or they are death |
| 05:58.34 | predder | thanks Guerin |
| 05:58.35 | saintiss | kenji, well, I think sarge is still up |
| 05:58.42 | Guerin | kenji: old flavours of gnome aren't significantly faster, once you uninstall most of the shite. You probably just need to trim the services down some. |
| 05:58.45 | saintiss | but maybe not for long |
| 05:58.48 | simonrvn | â° |
| 05:58.56 | kenji | Guerin gnome-core package ;) |
| 05:59.05 | MangosDebian | simonrvn: quit that |
| 05:59.06 | kenji | no cut needed ;) just sarge software |
| 05:59.24 | simonrvn | ⥠⎠|
| 05:59.28 | MangosDebian | ! |
| 05:59.36 | Guerin | kenji: you can install sarge, but it's only supported for another few months, and you won't get much sympathy on here. I'd say your best option is just to not use gnome if it's unbearably slow. |
| 05:59.44 | kenji | and yes I can resurrect a 16mb of ram, 512mb of hd and 90mhz proc with sarge and I can't doit with etch :P |
| 05:59.51 | simonrvn | â â |
| 05:59.56 | MangosDebian | simonrvn: let me guess, french keyboard? :) |
| 05:59.58 | Guerin | nothing wrong with xfce; my own mum has been using it since 2004 |
| 06:00.05 | Guerin | MangosDebian: utf-8 FTW |
| 06:00.19 | MangosDebian | putty suck with those |
| 06:00.21 | kenji | Guerin a rh8 with gnome 2.0 can do a bether work with usability than xfce 4.4 looking like gnome |
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| 06:00.27 | MangosDebian | i dont see them less you switch to console |
| 06:00.38 | Guerin | MangosDebian: nope, works fine if you set the language oroperly |
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| 06:00.56 | MangosDebian | in putty? or you mean export LANG |
| 06:00.57 | Guerin | kenji: bollocks. |
| 06:01.08 | simonrvn | kenji: prove it |
| 06:01.15 | kenji | in the real world the no geeks can't use xfce or fluxbox :P gnome its hard for the real people like my mom and she can't wait 2 minutes to get a iceweseal loaded |
| 06:01.15 | Guerin | MangosDebian: no, in putty. There's a language setting ewhich lets you choose your charset. |
| 06:01.25 | MangosDebian | ya i see it, thanks |
| 06:01.35 | MangosDebian | on utf8 now |
| 06:01.37 | simonrvn | that's called impatience |
| 06:02.00 | MangosDebian | ahh, a euro and a block? that what it should be simon? |
| 06:02.02 | Guerin | kenji: *MY* mother uses xfce. She's no more a geek than George W Bush. She still rings me up to ask why the little yellow man (gaim) isn't connecting. |
| 06:02.45 | saintiss | right... there's a huge difference between e.g. XFCE and fluxbox |
| 06:02.49 | saintiss | XFCE is a desktop environment |
| 06:02.57 | kenji | Guerin my mom don't use xfce |
| 06:03.02 | saintiss | fluxbox is just a WM, and therefore more 'geeky' |
| 06:03.03 | simonrvn | i use bits of xfce and openbox3... and? |
| 06:03.11 | Guerin | kenji: we established that already. |
| 06:03.23 | kenji | tnks guys, sarge its a good choice than etch for a older pc |
| 06:03.48 | Guerin | kenji: nothing prevents you from installing sarge using 3.1 install cds - but it will die off one day soon. |
| 06:04.03 | Guerin | kenji: ok, you keep saying that, but it's just plain bullshit. |
| 06:04.09 | simonrvn | fucking time-wasting pointless 'discussions' |
| 06:04.22 | Guerin | kenji: i ran etch on a 486 dx2-66 with 24MB recently |
| 06:04.23 | MangosDebian | simonrvn: yup |
| 06:04.29 | kenji | Guerin and? the installed system will work for years with sarge |
| 06:04.36 | Guerin | kenji: without security updates |
| 06:04.42 | Guerin | kenji: or new software |
| 06:04.53 | simonrvn | ...and become yet another zombie host |
| 06:05.01 | simonrvn | fun. NOT |
| 06:05.07 | kenji | Guerin new software its bad for old computers :) |
| 06:05.16 | simonrvn | ... |
| 06:05.16 | Guerin | !cluebat kenji |
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| 06:06.08 | MangosDebian | too bad all the smacktards that come here are only interested in stirring up emotional responses for logging and police/governemnt profilling 50% of the time |
| 06:06.09 | kenji | I can run a working kde 2.x enviroment with debian potatoe in 16mb of ram and its a bether chooice than etch with xfce in a 16mb of ram pc |
| 06:06.21 | Guerin | ok |
| 06:06.22 | Guerin | i get it |
| 06:06.31 | Guerin | you're prejudiced against anything younger than you |
| 06:06.41 | simonrvn | wake me up when he's done uttering nonsense |
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| 06:07.00 | MangosDebian | simonrvn: free for a sec? |
| 06:07.00 | Guerin | i bet you aspire to driving a 1956 VW beetle one day |
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| 06:10.15 | predder | !cluebat kenji |
| 06:10.37 | kenji | predder I don't understand that message |
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| 06:10.52 | sussudio | %potatoe |
| 06:10.52 | badgers | IT'S POTATO DAMMIT!! P-O-T-A-T-O!!, or please learn to spell better than Dan Quayle |
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| 06:11.10 | MangosDebian | predder: obviously your new to irc ;) people dont know how to read on their own |
| 06:12.00 | predder | .. I just wanted to re-roll the cluebat is all |
| 06:12.16 | MangosDebian | ahh, valid excuse, carry on then |
| 06:13.36 | Guerin | phew, that steeks |
| 06:13.42 | Guerin | ^n |
| 06:14.13 | matahari | has anyone of you a good howto for installing debian via debootstrap on an USB-HDD? |
| 06:14.20 | MangosDebian | mmmmmm......sauce |
| 06:14.40 | MangosDebian | matahari: you tried google yet? |
| 06:14.52 | Guerin | matahari: /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 06:15.03 | matahari | thanks |
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| 06:15.28 | MangosDebian | Guerin: man debootstrap little too much i assume? :) |
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| 06:15.48 | Guerin | matahari: more or less just run the install, chroot into the mount point, install a kernel and grub and init and so on, then hope it boots. |
| 06:16.01 | Guerin | if not, you can always find out why not ;) |
| 06:16.14 | Guerin | matahari: tbh i haven't looked at it in years |
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| 06:17.14 | matahari | i hope i don't destroy anything.... |
| 06:17.38 | MangosDebian | someone has high expectations :) |
| 06:17.44 | matahari | :-) |
| 06:18.05 | MangosDebian | matahari: dont worry, you will, but then we will just tell you to restore your backups |
| 06:18.18 | matahari | ^^ |
| 06:18.21 | matahari | backups? |
| 06:18.23 | matahari | ;-) |
| 06:18.46 | MangosDebian | :) |
| 06:19.09 | Guerin | !backups |
| 06:19.09 | dpkg | I don't need no steenkin backups However, I'm sure at least two other mes in parallel dimensions do, so I'm probably good to go. Hopefully the other mes in the other dimensions aren't counting on me to keep backups. Those idiots. <SlayerXP> there are two types of people in this world, those who take my advice regarding RAID and backups, and those who cry when they lose their data |
| 06:19.18 | Guerin | see the last quote ;) |
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| 06:22.12 | matahari | okay |
| 06:22.25 | matahari | so now i am mounting the USB-HDD |
| 06:22.35 | matahari | installing debootstrap on my ubuntu-system |
| 06:22.38 | MangosDebian | that was a fast backup :) |
| 06:23.00 | matahari | and then start it and afterwards chroot in it? |
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| 06:24.14 | intarwebz | is anyone here on a mac using fink? |
| 06:24.18 | Guerin | there is no start |
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| 06:24.22 | intarwebz | powerpc |
| 06:24.25 | Securi | Hi is their a tutorial on setting up a shell account? |
| 06:24.35 | intarwebz | useradd username |
| 06:24.37 | Guerin | !anyone use a mac using fink? |
| 06:24.37 | dpkg | No, no one uses a mac using fink, not even the people who use it. |
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| 06:24.56 | intarwebz | woah awesome |
| 06:25.05 | MangosDebian | Securi: /usr/share/doc/HOWTO has good info |
| 06:25.10 | Securi | thanks |
| 06:25.19 | Guerin | matahari: once the debootstrap is done, then you chroot |
| 06:25.28 | matahari | Guerin: Okay |
| 06:25.30 | intarwebz | Guerin: can i do that !anyone thing and ask it otehr questions? |
| 06:25.34 | intarwebz | Guerin: was that magic? |
| 06:26.30 | MangosDebian | intarwebz: /msg dpkg help |
| 06:26.36 | intarwebz | thx |
| 06:26.56 | matchbox20 | Does the swap partition can not be larger than 2G? |
| 06:27.28 | MangosDebian | matchbox20: the RIAA contacted you for royalty payments on that nick yet? :) |
| 06:27.28 | intarwebz | Guerin: so if i say i'm on a mac using fink, it will later tell people i am if they ask in that fashion? |
| 06:27.31 | Guerin | intarwebz: yes, the magick of teh intarwebs |
| 06:27.37 | intarwebz | Guerin: not to ask rtfm intarwebz questions |
| 06:27.59 | Guerin | intarwebz: only if you arean acolyte of the bloot |
| 06:28.10 | MangosDebian | heh |
| 06:28.12 | intarwebz | is that the name of the debian gang online? |
| 06:28.18 | Guerin | intarwebz: with your special bloot want and bloot cap, and having paid your bloot dues |
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| 06:28.27 | Guerin | s/want/wand/ |
| 06:28.34 | intarwebz | will that jeopardize things at #fedora? |
| 06:28.58 | Guerin | not if the #fedorian guard don't find out |
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| 06:29.06 | intarwebz | haha |
| 06:29.31 | Guerin | their intelligence gathering operation is lax |
| 06:29.39 | Guerin | they never expect the bloot inquisition |
| 06:29.52 | intarwebz | well with all the prohibitive security they probably can't get out of their servers to gather any data |
| 06:29.56 | exobyte | Is there a way to set up the interfaces file so the DNS is ignored from a specific interface's DHCP request? |
| 06:29.59 | intarwebz | (ooh snap) |
| 06:30.18 | Guerin | exobyte: there are both good and bad ways to do this |
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| 06:30.38 | MangosDebian | exobyte: yes. |
| 06:30.43 | Guerin | exobyte: and like many things, the good way is complicated and somewhat unreliable, while the bad way is extremely easy but somewhat dangerous |
| 06:30.50 | Guerin | !fixresolvconf |
| 06:30.50 | dpkg | ISP fucking with your /etc/resolv.conf file? Don't worry! just do echo -e "nameserver 4.2.2.1\nnameserver 168.126.63.1" > /etc/resolv.conf && chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf; as root, and your problems will be solved (permanently) a slightly more elegant solution is to use resolvconf instead, and specify the nameservers yourself, or to edit /etc/dhclient.conf |
| 06:31.28 | exobyte | Guerin: ah, so edit dhclient.conf? |
| 06:31.55 | Guerin | exobyte: i see you have chosen that path of righteousness. |
| 06:32.05 | exobyte | Guerin: not my isp, btw, but close enough. I have two interfaces due ot a vlan, and things are getting, umm... |
| 06:32.06 | Guerin | MangosDebian: there is no $1 |
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| 06:32.36 | MangosDebian | Guerin: thats funny, cause it looked like you just started a spoonfeeding session :) |
| 06:32.38 | exobyte | Guerin: well, I did already know about modifying resolv.conf |
| 06:33.13 | exobyte | Guerin: still- there should be a way to fix this in the interfaces file... |
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| 06:34.17 | exobyte | Guerin: now I might have a problem. Both interfaces use dhcp (I have no idea why resolv.conf is wrong) |
| 06:34.42 | intarwebz | yeah, i had a feeling this was coming |
| 06:34.50 | intarwebz | i kept thinking "how is this going to be per device..." |
| 06:34.55 | intarwebz | but what do i know? |
| 06:35.01 | Guerin | exobyte: you can make your dhcp client not accept the dns details |
| 06:35.16 | Guerin | dhcp is teh suck |
| 06:35.29 | Guerin | i don't use it unless i have no choice |
| 06:35.44 | exobyte | Guerin: right, but then how will the other interface get a DNS? |
| 06:35.59 | matahari | i know - this question sucks, but do you have any suggestions for a "GOOD" partitioning? |
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| 06:36.01 | exobyte | Guerin: it's made my life generally easier |
| 06:36.12 | Guerin | you will have a resolv.conf file all of your own, or use resolvconf in interfaces |
| 06:36.17 | Guerin | man interfaces tels you |
| 06:36.22 | Guerin | sl/ll/ |
| 06:36.24 | rossMoHaX | hi! I'm looking for lightweight WM which is able to create shortcuts on desktop |
| 06:36.39 | rossMoHaX | Is there any? xfwm4 is a little bit big =) |
| 06:36.51 | tralala | matahari, read the install guide - it discusses partitioning |
| 06:36.59 | matahari | thanks |
| 06:37.01 | Guerin | rossMoHaX: the main issue is getting something which has a windows-like desktop |
| 06:37.18 | Guerin | you can use nautilus, but that's about 50MB right there |
| 06:37.46 | saintiss | xfce can too these days |
| 06:37.55 | Guerin | oh, ok |
| 06:37.55 | saintiss | it's got a file browser as well, and icons |
| 06:37.57 | rossMoHaX | fluxbox has separate app for display icons on desktop, but fluxbox itself doesnt work with unicode in it's menus |
| 06:38.02 | Guerin | i haven't used it since 4.0 |
| 06:38.09 | intarwebz | i have xubuntu (xfce) on a p2 450mhz with 288mb ram and it's pretty slick |
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| 06:39.28 | rossMoHaX | saintiss, xfwm4 (xfce windows manager) takes about 40 mb too =) |
| 06:39.43 | saintiss | oh |
| 06:40.08 | saintiss | I personally use fluxbox, but it can take a while to set up if you want a newbie to use it |
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| 06:40.41 | Securi | <Securi> is there any facny debian tools |
| 06:40.42 | Securi | <Securi> where it can show my cpu/memory/hdd usage on graphs |
| 06:40.42 | Securi | <Securi> on the desktop? |
| 06:40.42 | Securi | <Securi> Perhaps net connection as well download/uploads? |
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| 06:41.10 | Securi | sorry about that! |
| 06:41.11 | Securi | :) |
| 06:41.16 | Securi | bitch didnt think was going to kick me |
| 06:41.17 | Securi | :) |
| 06:41.20 | Securi | anyone? |
| 06:41.26 | MangosDebian | how's aol.com? |
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| 06:41.39 | slack101 | anyone here program ? |
| 06:41.39 | Securi | pretty cheap and good :P |
| 06:41.42 | MangosDebian | guess they let that ban slip over the years |
| 06:41.45 | Securi | since the exchange is across the road |
| 06:42.13 | Securi | so are there any tools? |
| 06:42.43 | ricky | Securi: For GNOME, there's a System Monitor applet (for the panel, though) |
| 06:42.50 | MangosDebian | gkrellm perhaps |
| 06:43.09 | Securi | its for gnome |
| 06:43.17 | rossMoHaX | what is a debian way to add apps to X autorun? no wm, just one fullscreen app |
| 06:43.18 | Securi | oh right so nothing that would sit on your desktop live? |
| 06:43.21 | Securi | brb shower! |
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| 06:44.13 | MangosDebian | wow, those damn emergency showers in the middle of asking a support question.... |
| 06:44.42 | Danielss89 | hi, i need a SSH program which i can copy/paste into... right now im using putty, and when im editing files with nano, i cant paste into them... is there a program which can do this? |
| 06:44.57 | peterS | Danielss89: shift-middle-click |
| 06:45.18 | ricky | Wow, I've never used PuTTY in Linux before. |
| 06:45.20 | Danielss89 | middle-click? |
| 06:45.31 | ricky | In windows, right click or shift-insert seem to work, though. |
| 06:45.35 | MangosDebian | funny, right click works fine here |
| 06:45.43 | peterS | ricky: most of us don't use it in Linux, since the command-line openssh along with another terminal emulator does the job fine |
| 06:46.01 | ricky | Naturally. |
| 06:46.07 | MangosDebian | peterS: wow, they actually have putty for linux? :/ |
| 06:46.16 | peterS | MangosDebian: apt-cache show putty |
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| 06:46.42 | Tidus | i've used the *nix version of putty |
| 06:46.51 | Tidus | nearly identical to the windows version |
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| 06:47.04 | peterS | Tidus: on which *nix? Unix, Minix, Xenix, Irix...? |
| 06:47.09 | Tidus | only reason i have to use it on nix is ease of port forwarding since i'm too lazy to remember the command line for openssh |
| 06:47.13 | peterS | Note "Linux" is a *nux, not a *nix |
| 06:47.39 | MangosDebian | peterS: ahh k, X. was wondering why someone would bother with a cli ssh when the one we got already do it all already |
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| 06:47.40 | Tidus | peterS: according to any naming convention i've heard, linux gets classified as *nix |
| 06:47.41 | Tidus | lol |
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| 06:47.51 | Danielss89 | ahh shift-insert worked... thx ricky |
| 06:47.56 | Tidus | but i've used it on linux and solaris 10 |
| 06:47.57 | peterS | Tidus: I don't spell it Linix, so calling it *nix annoys me |
| 06:48.21 | peterS | but I suppose if you're willing to spell it Linix, that's a useful abbreviation |
| 06:48.36 | MangosDebian | peterS: purest a fitting term? |
| 06:48.57 | peterS | I prefer to call unix-like systems, as a general appellation, "unix" |
| 06:49.09 | peterS | never mind a fake shell glob that isn't even accurate |
| 06:49.31 | MangosDebian | linux is a unix. |
| 06:49.38 | peterS | and no, I don't particularly care about The Open Group's trademark of "Unix" |
| 06:49.43 | Tidus | and that right there is how linux can be classified as *nix |
| 06:49.44 | exobyte | Guerin: resolvconf seems to have fixed things. thanks for the pointer |
| 06:49.56 | diskus | as far as I know Linux can't call itself unix |
| 06:50.08 | peterS | diskus: it isn't calling itself Unix. peterS is calling it Unix. |
| 06:50.14 | Tidus | it's a unix-like system |
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| 06:51.14 | diskus | http://www.unix.org/what_is_unix.html |
| 06:51.22 | peterS | and peterS doesn't care about the trademark policy. the systems that are technically "Unix" are so diverse that if I just say "Unix" without specifying which Unix, it clearly encompasses Linux, which is more similar to System V than some other Unixes are |
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| 06:51.57 | peterS | unless I'm actually talking about details of the kernel ancestry, which I pretty much never am |
| 06:52.01 | MangosDebian | linux will be a unix onces the copyright expires on unix brand name i figure |
| 06:52.18 | MangosDebian | but i think those are like 100 years or something stupid arent they? |
| 06:52.19 | peterS | MangosDebian: don't confuse copyrights and trademarks. they are not the same thing and your statement makes no sense |
| 06:52.48 | peterS | you can't copyright a brand name, you can only trademark it, and the rules for trademark enforcement are very different |
| 06:53.01 | MangosDebian | hmmm, ianal, but I think i see your point. unix is a trademark then yes? |
| 06:53.07 | peterS | yes |
| 06:53.18 | MangosDebian | trademarks dont expire i assume? |
| 06:53.36 | matahari | making a swap partition logical isn't good? |
| 06:53.37 | peterS | correct. you can lose trademark protection if your trademark is used by too many people to refer to a more generic product |
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| 06:53.47 | peterS | but it doesn't expire after a fixed length of time |
| 06:54.05 | MangosDebian | peterS: interesting. thanks |
| 06:54.14 | peterS | thus, since the world used to talk about "xeroxing a document", Xerox no longer has the effective right to police their trademark |
| 06:54.29 | peterS | (this before we all just started calling the thing a "copier") |
| 06:54.48 | Guerin | the theory behind that rule is that trademarks will tend to expire naturally as the product they describe becomes obsolete |
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| 06:55.34 | peterS | some trademarks are still in full force after quite a long time, like Tabasco ("since 1868") |
| 06:56.02 | Guerin | right |
| 06:56.06 | peterS | because nobody has gotten the idea of calling _all_ hot pepper sauces tabasco |
| 06:56.27 | Guerin | though i saw some in Asia called `tarasco' and `tamasco' |
| 06:56.34 | peterS | hehe |
| 06:56.36 | Guerin | only in foreigner districts |
| 06:57.07 | Guerin | because lord know the locals make better sauces of their own than crappy knock-offs of american stuff |
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| 06:58.19 | Guerin | http://www.kaitaiafire.com/index.pasp is ours ;) |
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| 06:59.56 | xembrx | tamaco, wasn't that a simpsons thing? |
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| 07:00.30 | icarus | when i have sex with my bathrobe still on, it clings to my skin to much |
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| 07:00.36 | icarus | are there any .debs to help fix this? |
| 07:00.44 | peterS | icarus: nethack |
| 07:00.52 | icarus | yeh? |
| 07:00.59 | peterS | icarus: it will solve the problem by transforming you into the kind of person who never gets any anyway |
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| 07:01.15 | xembrx | or supertux! |
| 07:01.25 | xembrx | (da dada daaaa!!) |
| 07:01.31 | icarus | whats it do to hep a? |
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| 07:01.54 | xembrx | makes you think about something else :P |
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| 07:03.13 | wingot | icarus: If you play nethack, then you will officially be a geek. And as we all know, geeks never have had or will have sex. Therefore, your hep a will be cancelled out in a plethora of logic |
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| 07:03.25 | lkthomas | guys, I found something funny |
| 07:03.35 | lkthomas | [Mon Jul 09 15:02:58 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] File does not exist: /htdocs |
| 07:03.46 | lkthomas | I never define anything about htdocs |
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| 07:03.51 | lkthomas | how does it appear in my log |
| 07:04.16 | Dan39 | u dunno LOL |
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| 07:04.24 | wingot | lkthomas: Which log? |
| 07:04.28 | icarus | man i gotta piss |
| 07:04.34 | icarus | is there a bathroom here? |
| 07:04.37 | lkthomas | wingot: of course apache |
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| 07:05.03 | peterS | I'm guessing icarus wasn't particularly sober anyway |
| 07:05.12 | Supaplex | weekend drunk |
| 07:05.27 | wingot | peterS: Actually, he just came in here to piss people off |
| 07:05.31 | wingot | lkthomas: Sorry, just wanted to clarify |
| 07:05.45 | wingot | Your httpd.conf doesn't specifiy /htdocs anywhere in it? |
| 07:05.46 | lkthomas | wingot: so what do you think |
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| 07:05.50 | lkthomas | nope |
| 07:05.53 | peterS | wingot: he didn't do a very good job. I didn't see anyone particularly pissed off. I just figured he wasn't going to add any value |
| 07:06.15 | wingot | Two netsplits in a day, ouch |
| 07:06.18 | Supaplex | woops, the velcro didn't hold |
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| 07:06.36 | MangosDebian | Supaplex: i told you, duck tape! |
| 07:07.01 | Supaplex | quack |
| 07:07.03 | intarwebz | wicked |
| 07:07.07 | intarwebz | why did i stay on? |
| 07:07.33 | MangosDebian | intarwebz: are you on niven.freenode.net? |
| 07:07.36 | intarwebz | yup |
| 07:07.52 | intarwebz | no |
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| 07:07.55 | intarwebz | irc. |
| 07:08.14 | MangosDebian | intarwebz: your probably on niven with us thats why |
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| 07:08.29 | intarwebz | oh ok so in another world all those people are still on #debian? |
| 07:08.37 | MangosDebian | yes |
| 07:08.42 | MangosDebian | !netsplit |
| 07:08.42 | dpkg | methinks netsplit is A deliberate disconnection between (at least) two servers on one IRC network. Usually occurs when the output-queue for the link has filled up too much to make a timely (re)sync likely, so it's preferred to maintain sanity (and lag-freeness) for both parts of the network. Occurs anywhere where links between IRC-servers have too little bandwidth (available/allocated). |
| 07:08.42 | wingot | intarwebz: On their server, yes |
| 07:08.47 | wingot | It will rejoin soon enough |
| 07:08.55 | intarwebz | ohhhh ok |
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| 07:09.02 | intarwebz | that's neat, i never really understood what netsplits were |
| 07:09.11 | MangosDebian | easier to just pull the link than send the backlog |
| 07:09.20 | matchbox20 | how to change my hostname? |
| 07:09.31 | wingot | matchbox20: You have to be a PDP supporter |
| 07:09.46 | MangosDebian | depends what hostname you mean |
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| 07:09.51 | wingot | Unless you have direct access to your public IP :) |
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| 07:10.03 | wingot | Oh, yeah, that's if you mean the irc hostname |
| 07:10.10 | simonrvn | wingot: /whois me |
| 07:10.12 | wingot | Otherwise, the `hostname` command works well ;) |
| 07:10.33 | MangosDebian | simonrvn: you still got rev dns? |
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| 07:11.43 | matchbox20 | to:wingot what is PDP |
| 07:11.49 | wingot | tar: A lone zero block at 371 <-- That means there is a problem with the tgz yeah? |
| 07:12.09 | wingot | matchbox20: runs freenode |
| 07:12.16 | MangosDebian | !pdp |
| 07:12.17 | wingot | Err |
| 07:12.22 | wingot | !pdc |
| 07:12.22 | dpkg | hmm... pdc is primary domain controller |
| 07:12.35 | MangosDebian | peer directed something orother |
| 07:12.36 | wingot | pdpdc |
| 07:12.39 | wingot | gah |
| 07:12.41 | wingot | pdpc |
| 07:12.43 | wingot | !pdpc |
| 07:12.44 | simonrvn | wingot: re-download it, yeh |
| 07:12.49 | TiMiDO | !ppc |
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| 07:12.49 | dpkg | well, ppc is is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ or visit #debianppc |
| 07:12.53 | MangosDebian | !list values peer directed |
| 07:12.59 | MangosDebian | !listvalues peer directed |
| 07:13.00 | wingot | simonrvn: Have done a couple of time, I'm thinking corrupted on server end |
| 07:13.01 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'peer directed' by value returned no results. |
| 07:13.13 | simonrvn | wingot: could be |
| 07:13.19 | wingot | freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml |
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| 07:14.23 | peterS | MangosDebian: dude. just go to http://freenode.net/ |
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| 07:14.38 | MangosDebian | dpkg: pdpc is <reply> PDPC is an IRS 501(c)(3) tax-exempt corporation, was created in 2002 to run the freenode network and to establish a variety of programs relating to peer-directed project communities. See http://freenode.net/pdpc.shtml. |
| 07:14.39 | dpkg | MangosDebian: okay |
| 07:14.44 | MangosDebian | happy now? |
| 07:14.55 | MangosDebian | !lock pdpc |
| 07:15.03 | Supaplex | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:15.12 | MangosDebian | take out the last period :) |
| 07:15.18 | Supaplex | ewpz |
| 07:15.22 | MangosDebian | !pdpc =~ s/\.$// |
| 07:15.22 | dpkg | MangosDebian: that doesn't contain '\.$' |
| 07:15.29 | peterS | Supaplex: yeah he forgot to add space before punctuation, the usual thing you do to prevent these things |
| 07:15.34 | MangosDebian | !pdpc =~ s/.$// |
| 07:15.34 | dpkg | MangosDebian: that doesn't contain '.$' |
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| 07:15.54 | Supaplex | !pdpc =~ s/shtml/shtml / |
| 07:15.54 | dpkg | OK, Supaplex |
| 07:15.55 | MangosDebian | !pdpc =~ s/shtml./shtml/ |
| 07:15.55 | dpkg | MangosDebian: that doesn't contain 'shtml.' |
| 07:15.56 | wingot | MangosDebian: s/ml./ml/ |
| 07:16.03 | Supaplex | edit war :P |
| 07:16.05 | MangosDebian | lol, oops |
| 07:16.05 | simonrvn | my irssi urlgrab script choked on it too |
| 07:16.06 | peterS | STOP IT guys |
| 07:16.08 | peterS | do it in /msg please |
| 07:16.20 | peterS | the bot actually does respond to /msg, believe it or not |
| 07:16.30 | MangosDebian | thanks Supaplex |
| 07:16.37 | simonrvn | it does? :P |
| 07:16.56 | Supaplex | sometimes we're lazy. half of #debian isn't here anyways. =:-/ |
| 07:17.13 | MangosDebian | no doubt. thats a long split |
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| 07:18.36 | streuner | dpkg lagged for me the other day, sometimes it just needs some time |
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| 07:19.04 | wingot | Anyway, I'm off |
| 07:19.07 | MangosDebian | streuner: dpkg has a queue. he may have been sending to other ppl |
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| 07:19.35 | MangosDebian | unless an oper made him immune to floods which I doubt |
| 07:19.44 | Supaplex | !gender |
| 07:19.44 | dpkg | I'm sexless |
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| 07:22.37 | Guerin | mm, t-bone for dinnar |
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| 07:22.45 | Guerin | best steak evar |
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| 07:23.05 | Nesquick | hi there all |
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| 07:23.19 | Guerin | !greet Nesquick |
| 07:23.19 | dpkg | Howdy, Nesquick |
| 07:23.31 | Nesquick | i have a litle problem |
| 07:23.31 | vorpal | grilled onions, mustard, and a nice cold beer to finish it off ;-) |
| 07:23.32 | Guerin | that factoid needs souped up |
| 07:23.41 | Nesquick | i try to add a script to crontab... |
| 07:23.45 | Nesquick | but...no result |
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| 07:23.46 | Nesquick | 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /etc/firewall/check.sh |
| 07:23.49 | MangosDebian | vorpal: mustard on a steak? |
| 07:23.52 | Guerin | vorpal: hold the mustard; i don't hold with saucing good steak |
| 07:23.54 | Nesquick | this is my crontab rule... |
| 07:24.08 | vorpal | MangosDebian: not on it, but on the side |
| 07:24.21 | MangosDebian | Nesquick: btw, you can replace that with something like */5 |
| 07:24.26 | Nesquick | i tried with >/dev/null 2>&1 |
| 07:24.27 | Guerin | yeah |
| 07:24.28 | Nesquick | i know |
| 07:24.32 | Nesquick | i did that to... |
| 07:24.36 | vorpal | Guerin: if it is seasoned properly, sure |
| 07:24.39 | MangosDebian | vorpal: sounds interesting, havent tried it |
| 07:24.42 | Nesquick | but...the script dosen't run every 5min |
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| 07:25.07 | Guerin | Nesquick: in what file did you put it? |
| 07:25.10 | vorpal | MangosDebian: horse radish mustard is the best on steak |
| 07:25.24 | Nesquick | in /etc/crontab |
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| 07:25.34 | MangosDebian | Nesquick: crontab -e |
| 07:25.39 | Guerin | Nesquick: is the script +x? |
| 07:25.54 | Nesquick | yes |
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| 07:26.04 | MangosDebian | Nesquick: and the shebang? |
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| 07:26.29 | MangosDebian | Nesquick: head -n1 /etc/firewall/check.sh |
| 07:26.29 | Nesquick | i have the same script o a machine running other linux distribution and works great... |
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| 07:26.47 | Guerin | Nesquick: what shell does it call? |
| 07:26.55 | Nesquick | /bin/bash |
| 07:27.01 | MangosDebian | is that all it says? |
| 07:27.07 | Guerin | and does it run normally if you can it with ./check.sh ? |
| 07:27.08 | Nesquick | #!/bin/bash |
| 07:27.13 | MangosDebian | k |
| 07:27.17 | Guerin | no reason it shouldn't, but ... |
| 07:27.35 | Nesquick | yep...i can rule the script... |
| 07:27.37 | kendrick | is there something like "apt-get build-dep [package]" that simply SHOWS me what packages are required to build an app? |
| 07:27.38 | MangosDebian | Nesquick: is conrd running? |
| 07:27.42 | MangosDebian | crond* |
| 07:27.46 | kendrick | build-dep does nothing, since i already HAVE all of the dependencies met. |
| 07:27.55 | kendrick | but i want to list the _exact_ packages required, and not forget anything :) |
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| 07:28.34 | Guerin | kendrick: grep build-dep debian/rules (i think) or maybe debian/control in the package source tree |
| 07:28.36 | Nesquick | i dont have crond |
| 07:28.37 | Nesquick | just cron |
| 07:28.51 | tralala | debian/control |
| 07:28.56 | Guerin | makes sense |
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| 07:29.04 | Nesquick | root 24929 0.0 0.0 3524 984 ? Ss Jul06 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron |
| 07:29.08 | kendrick | Guerin: hrm |
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| 07:29.27 | tralala | and I don't think it's called build-dep there |
| 07:29.28 | MangosDebian | Nesquick: looks good |
| 07:29.39 | Nesquick | yep...but where is the problem... |
| 07:29.40 | kendrick | Guerin: found it, thx :) |
| 07:29.42 | kendrick | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/tuxpaint |
| 07:29.47 | MangosDebian | Nesquick: check your mailbox yet for output? |
| 07:30.00 | kendrick | thx, cya! :) |
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| 07:30.16 | Nesquick | yep.. |
| 07:30.20 | Guerin | MangosDebian: or just tag || echo $(date) failed >> /tmp/diditwork |
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| 07:30.26 | Guerin | on to the end of the cron line |
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| 07:30.36 | Guerin | you'll need some quotes in there too |
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| 07:31.02 | Nesquick | Guerin, can you help me please |
| 07:31.14 | Guerin | Nesquick: i'm trying |
| 07:31.31 | Nesquick | its a litle bit wierd... |
| 07:31.33 | Guerin | see above to MangosDebian |
| 07:32.01 | Nesquick | if i install fcron or other cron... |
| 07:32.01 | Nesquick | ? |
| 07:32.03 | Guerin | no |
| 07:32.06 | Guerin | cron works |
| 07:32.07 | thirst | i see f-spot is present in stable and unstable but not in testing ? why is that ? |
| 07:32.18 | Guerin | !why is f-spot not in testing? |
| 07:32.18 | dpkg | f-spot is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=f-spot |
| 07:32.22 | Guerin | thirst: â |
| 07:32.28 | thirst | ok |
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| 07:32.45 | Nesquick | hmmm |
| 07:32.45 | Guerin | Nesquick: does the script run from an interactive shell? |
| 07:32.53 | Guerin | and how do you know whether it's running or not? |
| 07:33.01 | streuner | testing is ATM pretty broken, use it on your own risk |
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| 07:33.07 | Nesquick | /bin/ping -c 5 192.168.32.2 >> /var/log/link0.log |
| 07:33.07 | Nesquick | /etc/firewall/check.sh (END) |
| 07:33.13 | Nesquick | this is the script |
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| 07:33.35 | MangosDebian | Nesquick: how did you setup the cron? in a file or with crontab -e? |
| 07:33.44 | Nesquick | i'm using for a ip ip tunnel... |
| 07:33.50 | thirst | thanks Guerin. |
| 07:33.57 | Nesquick | MangosDebian, with crontab -e |
| 07:34.03 | Guerin | thirst: no wuckin' furries mate |
| 07:34.07 | MangosDebian | Nesquick: as root i assume? |
| 07:34.11 | Nesquick | yep |
| 07:34.20 | Guerin | beats me |
| 07:36.00 | MangosDebian | Nesquick: check your syslog yet to see if its running? |
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| 07:36.25 | Nesquick | k |
| 07:36.40 | matahari | okay, it seems my client hook up... |
| 07:36.41 | matahari | :-( |
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| 07:37.03 | Nesquick | ghggggggg |
| 07:37.05 | Nesquick | works |
| 07:37.05 | Nesquick | :) |
| 07:37.05 | Guerin | Nesquick: instead of doing it in cron, try while true; do ./check.sh ; sleep 5m ; done |
| 07:37.06 | Nesquick | great |
| 07:37.07 | Nesquick | :) |
| 07:37.14 | Guerin | Nesquick: hm, what changed? |
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| 07:37.34 | Nesquick | */1 * * * * /etc/firewall/check.sh |
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| 07:37.47 | Nesquick | without root user... |
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| 07:37.53 | Guerin | hm |
| 07:37.57 | Guerin | fair enough |
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| 07:42.08 | matahari | which kernel do i need for a Geode GX1 CPU? (i mean i386, i486...?) |
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| 07:43.13 | Nesquick | thaks a lot guys |
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| 07:43.41 | sussudio | !fgi matahari which kernel do i need for a Geode GX1 CPU |
| 07:43.42 | dpkg | matahari: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=which kernel do i need for a Geode GX1 CPU |
| 07:44.39 | Guerin | matahari: 486 will be safe for an intel clone |
| 07:44.46 | vorpal | needs to encode those spaces as %20 ;-) |
| 07:44.48 | matahari | Guerin: thanks |
| 07:44.56 | Guerin | vorpal: as + |
| 07:45.15 | vorpal | ah, right |
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| 07:45.37 | Guerin | i think it is possible, i just couldn't be arsed when i made the factoid |
| 07:46.24 | MangosDebian | factoids cant do that i dont believe |
| 07:46.37 | MangosDebian | you would need to make a bloot module for it and have don add it |
| 07:46.45 | Guerin | meh |
| 07:46.58 | MangosDebian | or just alter the google one to work for fgi too |
| 07:47.35 | Guerin | or just do fgi blah don't+you+want+somebody+to+google |
| 07:47.48 | Guerin | not as if it comes up often |
| 07:47.51 | MangosDebian | or that :) |
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| 07:52.28 | metbsd | is there debian emergencies cd? |
| 07:52.33 | metbsd | to recover cd |
| 07:52.37 | metbsd | recover system |
| 07:52.39 | streuner | !grml |
| 07:52.39 | dpkg | grml is a bootable CD (Live-CD) originally based on Knoppix and Debian. grml includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of texttools and system administrators. grml provides automatic hardware detection. You can use grml for example as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. |
| 07:52.44 | Guerin | install cd can do |
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| 07:53.26 | streuner | some people created grml for that matter (recovering...) |
| 07:53.41 | streuner | minimal version has 50 MB |
| 07:53.45 | streuner | full 700 MB |
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| 07:55.16 | streuner | Guerin: ever used grml? |
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| 07:56.57 | Guerin | streuner: not much need for livecds |
| 07:57.03 | matahari | is there a command to automatically generate an fstab? |
| 07:57.12 | Guerin | matahari: nttbomk |
| 07:57.36 | Guerin | copy the one on your existing box |
| 07:57.41 | metbsd | what's the jigdo cd? |
| 07:57.56 | matahari | Guerin: nttbomk? |
| 07:58.03 | streuner | metbsd: useful in times when releases comes out |
| 07:58.09 | Guerin | !nttbomk |
| 07:58.10 | dpkg | Not To The Best Of My Knowledge |
| 07:58.24 | metbsd | what do you mean useful in times |
| 07:58.26 | streuner | metbsd: a way to download from serveral mirrors at the same time, not what you want actually |
| 07:58.54 | tralala | or obsolete by torrent |
| 07:59.09 | streuner | sure :-) |
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| 08:03.29 | tralala | !qotd0 |
| 08:03.29 | dpkg | <Hostile> RichiH: Im not fsking retarded |
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| 08:03.41 | matahari | when i'm chrooted in the USB-HDD - what kind of device shall i enter in the fstab? hda? sda? |
| 08:03.58 | tralala | sda |
| 08:04.13 | yayserver | cant find the more program and some other basic shell programs suddenly after restart, anyone help out |
| 08:04.32 | tralala | assuming you don't have any other scsi or sata devices |
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| 08:04.55 | streuner | knusper:/dos# dpkg -S /bin/more |
| 08:04.55 | streuner | util-linux: /bin/more |
| 08:05.04 | ttl_work | greetings everyone |
| 08:05.19 | streuner | yayserver: and util-linux is installed? |
| 08:05.32 | yayserver | which package contains the more binary and getopt? |
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| 08:06.13 | streuner | !info util-linux |
| 08:06.50 | vorpal | andrew morton had positive things to say about xfs in his google tech talk: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1742374580386548257 |
| 08:07.03 | ttl_work | i have a problem with apache2 as it is not recognizing index.php as a site index, index.html does work, i checked /etc/apache2/mods-available/dir.conf and index.php is listed there... |
| 08:07.07 | dpkg | util-linux: (Miscellaneous system utilities), section utils, is required. Version: 2.12r-19 (sid), Packaged size: 363 kB, Installed size: 992 kB |
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| 08:07.33 | ttl_work | i have PHP5 installed and all packages i think needed for apache and php |
| 08:07.54 | vorpal | ttl_work: #apache |
| 08:08.16 | Guerin | ttl_work: consult the apache documentation |
| 08:08.28 | yayserver | streuner: thanks! that was the one |
| 08:08.44 | ttl_work | k |
| 08:08.46 | yayserver | was removed for some reason |
| 08:08.55 | Guerin | ttl_work: or better yet, look through the config file for `index' |
| 08:08.58 | ttl_work | i thought it might be debian related |
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| 08:09.05 | Guerin | once you find it it will be clear |
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| 08:09.35 | ttl_work | Guerin: index.php is listed in /etc/apache2/mods-available/dir.conf |
| 08:10.18 | ttl_work | i'll ask in #apache |
| 08:10.22 | ttl_work | thanks |
| 08:12.19 | aleph0 | lilo: Fatal: Trying to map files from unnamed device 0x0010 |
| 08:12.20 | aleph0 | ? |
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| 08:15.02 | SlayerXP | aleph0: you're using lilo, that's problem enough. use grub. |
| 08:15.09 | aleph0 | k |
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| 08:17.04 | streuner_ | !start a bootloader war |
| 08:17.05 | dpkg | OS/2 Boot Manager is all you need |
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| 08:17.40 | tralala | !stop a flamewar |
| 08:17.55 | tralala | meh |
| 08:18.47 | matahari | Guerin: strange... i get (when running /sbin/lilo) an Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/sda") error... |
| 08:18.59 | matahari | is this because i use sda? shall i use hda instead? |
| 08:19.29 | Guerin | use grub' |
| 08:19.33 | Guerin | lilo bad |
| 08:19.35 | Guerin | grub good |
| 08:19.50 | Guerin | oh |
| 08:19.58 | Guerin | i see we already had this war |
| 08:20.11 | Guerin | i haven't used lilo since 2003, so i can't help you with it |
| 08:20.16 | matahari | okay |
| 08:20.26 | jelly-home | grub still doesn't handle raid1 in a nice way |
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| 08:20.32 | matahari | i will use grub |
| 08:20.45 | mindmedic | matahari: its really worth it |
| 08:20.49 | matahari | okay |
| 08:20.56 | matahari | i just need a little howto |
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| 08:21.44 | mindmedic | enough out there .. and remember the interactive mode, it helps you boot the system if the menu.lst has errors |
| 08:22.54 | mindmedic | !tell matahari about grub |
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| 08:23.20 | matahari | thanks mindmedic!!! |
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| 08:24.46 | aleph0 | dpkg: configuration error: unknown option log: Success |
| 08:24.47 | aleph0 | ? |
| 08:24.48 | metbsd | if your linux root is corruped, grub will fcked up |
| 08:24.55 | metbsd | that's grubs weakness |
| 08:25.46 | Sero | this is not a debian-specific question, but maybe some of you have some good suggestions; I need to back up some webfolders+some other stuff from my debian-server and would like to store remotely via for example FTP... I would like a web-interface for restore if that exists -- do any of you know of any good solutions? |
| 08:25.52 | antigod | typos are healthy |
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| 08:29.48 | matahari | mindmedic: grub-install doesn't work |
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| 08:30.31 | matahari | when i use logical partitions - do i have to use for example hd0,5 or hd0,0 (for sda1) |
| 08:30.45 | matahari | i'm very confused now... |
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| 08:31.04 | mindmedic | sda1 -> (hd0,0) afaik |
| 08:31.25 | matahari | and when i'm in chroot it WON't touch the Host-systems Harddisk? |
| 08:31.33 | matahari | only the USB-HDD? |
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| 08:33.35 | mindmedic | i know that file access is restricted to chrooted environment .. i do not know about device access .. |
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| 08:34.10 | Guerin | you may need to mount /proc /sys /dev and such inside the chroot |
| 08:34.19 | matahari | how do i do that? |
| 08:34.37 | Guerin | if you have fstab inside the chroot it should be trivial |
| 08:34.48 | matahari | i have an fstab created |
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| 08:34.58 | tralala | matahari, copy the relevant lines from your real fstab |
| 08:35.02 | Guerin | but no, when inside the chroot you'll only operate on the chroot disk, not the mount point |
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| 08:35.42 | matahari | okay. so i can run the grub-command without bad feelings? |
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| 08:35.56 | Guerin | matahari: INSIDE the chroot shell, yes |
| 08:35.59 | matahari | okay |
| 08:36.01 | Guerin | when install grub you'll install to sda1, but you'll want to change that to hda1 for all of it |
| 08:36.07 | Guerin | before putting it in the new drive |
| 08:36.18 | Guerin | err, the new box |
| 08:36.21 | matahari | ok |
| 08:36.29 | Guerin | unles sthe new box will be sda, which I don't believe it will be |
| 08:36.43 | Guerin | man, i can't england today |
| 08:37.23 | matahari | :-( |
| 08:37.23 | matahari | i get an error: "selected disk doesn't exist" |
| 08:37.23 | Guerin | which disk? |
| 08:37.23 | mindmedic | why do newer discs use sd naming? |
| 08:37.24 | matahari | tried root (hd0,0) |
| 08:37.31 | matahari | and root (hd0,1) |
| 08:37.38 | Guerin | matahari: try grub-install /dev/sda |
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| 08:39.19 | matahari | error: /dev/sda: Not found or not a block device. |
| 08:40.01 | matahari | same with sdb hda and hdb |
| 08:40.05 | matahari | :-( |
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| 08:41.43 | siimo | damn time flys fast.. i think it was just yesterday that sarge was testing branch |
| 08:42.18 | xand | nah |
| 08:42.48 | tralala | siimo, I guess this puts you in the minority that thinks debian release cycle is too fast |
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| 08:43.25 | siimo | it might be because sarge was testing for a few yrs |
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| 08:46.16 | siimo | whats this number game |
| 08:46.17 | tralala | 15 |
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| 08:47.22 | tralala | if we tell you we'd have to kill you |
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| 08:49.46 | siimo | !help |
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| 08:50.16 | streuner_ | !ask |
| 08:50.16 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 08:52.23 | tsrepadmin | if i want to diff two complete projects, for finding out which changes someone did to the files. ow could I do that effeciently? |
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| 08:52.57 | zecrazytux | diff3 ? |
| 08:53.31 | zecrazytux | big projects ? or just some files |
| 08:53.41 | tsrepadmin | oscommerce |
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| 08:53.55 | tsrepadmin | so its a big project :-) |
| 08:54.17 | zecrazytux | ok |
| 08:54.18 | zecrazytux | :o |
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| 08:54.27 | EHLOHIM | hello |
| 08:54.35 | EHLOHIM | how i can delete a directory non empty? |
| 08:54.38 | zecrazytux | why did'nt you use svn ! |
| 08:54.42 | tsrepadmin | rm -rf |
| 08:54.47 | EHLOHIM | thank you tsrepadmin |
| 08:54.49 | zecrazytux | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.51 | zecrazytux | :D |
| 08:55.05 | tsrepadmin | i did not program the changes |
| 08:55.57 | tsrepadmin | i got this project from the customer. he had another programmer before me, got sick of him, and now i have to look oer his code wether he put security holes into it or not |
| 08:56.16 | zecrazytux | maybe with a sheel script, with diff of two same filename, with a recursive ls |
| 08:56.27 | zecrazytux | but the result will be hard to read |
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| 08:56.58 | tsrepadmin | well its just important for me to find the places WHERE he chaned stuff |
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| 08:58.35 | tsrepadmin | another idea is: fetch the version of oscommerce he has changed. check it into my subversion repos. |
| 08:58.44 | tsrepadmin | then take his version and commit it |
| 08:58.58 | tsrepadmin | then have fun using snv |
| 08:59.01 | tsrepadmin | svn |
| 08:59.15 | tsrepadmin | I guess thats the easiest way. |
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| 09:00.16 | zecrazytux | sure |
| 09:00.26 | matahari | Guerin: i have no success at all... |
| 09:00.46 | matahari | i think i can' |
| 09:00.56 | matahari | t install grub on the usb-hdd |
| 09:01.10 | zecrazytux | cvs, and then svn have been created to solve the problem you now have |
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| 09:02.14 | zecrazytux | diff -r could be a start, but that's unreadable -_- |
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| 09:06.34 | Guerin | matahari: it is possible; I've done it |
| 09:06.47 | matahari | Guerin: how can i mount dev? |
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| 09:07.09 | matahari | it seems in the chroot it can't use my USB-HDD |
| 09:07.28 | Guerin | matahari: you have to mount the volume with -o dev (or at least without nodev, which is the default) |
| 09:07.57 | matahari | mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/debian -o dev |
| 09:07.58 | matahari | ? |
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| 09:08.39 | Guerin | man mount |
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| 09:15.40 | wols_ | good morning |
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| 09:16.10 | matahari | Guerin: i mounted it with mount -o dev /dev/sda5 /mnt/debian/ now - but grub-install still says: "not found or not a block-device" |
| 09:16.17 | matahari | Guerin: any ideas? |
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| 09:16.58 | CyberMad | what is the best mailing list manager? mailman, ezmlm or what? |
| 09:17.07 | xand | we use sympa |
| 09:17.10 | smiler | CyberMad: depends on who you ask |
| 09:17.28 | CyberMad | i need the newsletter feature.. |
| 09:17.48 | CyberMad | smiler anyone can give their opinion :) |
| 09:18.32 | Gigantic | damn, those boys in #politics are 13yr dumbasses |
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| 09:21.41 | zecrazytux | matahari: what do you want to do ? i arrived too late |
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| 09:22.21 | matahari | zecrazytux: i want to install etch on an usb-hdd to put it afterwards into an system (that has no CD-Drive and botting from network/usb seems not to work) |
| 09:22.27 | matahari | so i have a plain ech system |
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| 09:22.29 | matahari | etch |
| 09:22.36 | matahari | but i can't install grub |
| 09:22.58 | matahari | it always tells me "/dev/XdX: Not found or not a block device" |
| 09:23.08 | matahari | i don't know anymore what i can do... |
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| 09:23.29 | GreaseMonkey | matahari, grub-install is balls |
| 09:23.38 | Overflow | hi guys, i would like to resize my ext3, what is the best way of doing so? |
| 09:24.00 | GreaseMonkey | i have no idea. |
| 09:24.01 | zecrazytux | hmm |
| 09:24.04 | GreaseMonkey | good luck. |
| 09:24.39 | loca|host | i can't mount my memorystick when plugged into my laptop card reader, i have this in /var/log/messages: "kernel: [ 1391.924000] tifm_core: MemoryStick card detected in socket 0:0", and nothing else indicating the device name or the mountpoint ... |
| 09:25.03 | siimo | Overflow: try out gparted |
| 09:25.05 | zecrazytux | loca|host: modprobe mmc_block |
| 09:25.17 | zecrazytux | maybe mmc_core before |
| 09:25.32 | siimo | Overflow: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php |
| 09:25.44 | zecrazytux | matahari: but you can copy files into the partition ? |
| 09:25.50 | matahari | yes |
| 09:25.58 | Overflow | tried it, i resized my ntfs(to smaller one offcourse) but he won't give me ext3.. |
| 09:26.03 | matahari | debootstrap finished perfectly. apt works,... |
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| 09:26.36 | wols_ | Overflow: you had that ext3 mounted while you tried to rsize |
| 09:26.50 | Overflow | ohh yes |
| 09:26.51 | Overflow | lol |
| 09:26.53 | siimo | Overflow: try usingthe live cd from that page |
| 09:27.08 | wols_ | matahari: mount --bind olddir newdir |
| 09:27.13 | wols_ | and do this for proc and dev |
| 09:27.23 | matahari | okay |
| 09:27.36 | Overflow | okie |
| 09:27.38 | zecrazytux | matahari: grub is awesome when is installed, but something quite crappy when you wanna install... |
| 09:27.40 | Overflow | thx |
| 09:27.59 | zecrazytux | i had many problems with it.. |
| 09:28.15 | matahari | wols_: i mounted proc already with mount -t proc none mnt/proc |
| 09:28.26 | matahari | zecrazytux: yeah... |
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| 09:29.39 | Overflow | do i need any "before" and "after" things to do? (for the resize) |
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| 09:30.18 | zecrazytux | loca|host: does it works ? |
| 09:30.35 | loca|host | zecrazytux, am trying |
| 09:30.49 | loca|host | just a min to get where i put my stick :) |
| 09:30.55 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
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| 09:31.06 | siimo | Overflow: yes, backup ! |
| 09:31.15 | wols_ | Overflow: I'd fsck |
| 09:31.27 | Fox_1_ | does anyone know kernel model for pioneer dvd-rw? |
| 09:31.35 | wols_ | !anyone |
| 09:31.36 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you with or is a guru/expert of <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 09:31.47 | wols_ | Fox_1_: and it uses the same kernel like anything else |
| 09:31.56 | Overflow | ok thx |
| 09:31.57 | wols_ | it's a mmc atapi device |
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| 09:32.34 | Fox_1_ | ok, sorry |
| 09:32.41 | zecrazytux | i don't like popcorn... i prefer cookies :) |
| 09:33.01 | zecrazytux | does anyone as same taste ? |
| 09:33.03 | Fox_1_ | but in fact I couldn't use my dvd-rw. not as cdrom and not as dvd |
| 09:33.04 | zecrazytux | :D |
| 09:33.18 | zecrazytux | which kernel version ? |
| 09:33.24 | zecrazytux | IDE ? |
| 09:33.25 | buscon | HI, how can I collect all the links of an internet site ? |
| 09:33.31 | matahari | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH |
| 09:33.37 | matahari | grub kills me |
| 09:33.40 | wols_ | buscon: man wget |
| 09:33.40 | zecrazytux | matahari: ? |
| 09:33.49 | wols_ | matahari: did you do what I told you7? |
| 09:33.53 | wols_ | -? |
| 09:34.04 | Fox_1_ | 2.6.18-4-686 |
| 09:34.05 | matahari | wols_: yes - and still the same message |
| 09:34.07 | mindmedic | buscon: look at wgets recursive options |
| 09:34.17 | wols_ | matahari: how did you do it for /dev exactly? |
| 09:34.20 | buscon | mindmedic: ok, thanx |
| 09:34.29 | matahari | mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev |
| 09:34.44 | wols_ | and did you check /mnt/dev. are there device files? |
| 09:35.09 | matahari | wols_: seems so... |
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| 09:35.28 | matahari | wols_: BUT |
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| 09:35.38 | matahari | wols_: there is no hdX or sdX |
| 09:35.54 | matahari | the rest is here... ttyx,... |
| 09:36.22 | wols_ | ls /dev and ls /mnt/dev. pastebin |
| 09:36.55 | buscon | wols_, mindmedic: cannot find what I need... I have collect just all the links of an internet site |
| 09:37.23 | zecrazytux | and dmesg |
| 09:37.47 | bozi_ | i have mount problem since last upgrade |
| 09:38.22 | matahari | wols_: one second |
| 09:38.24 | bozi_ | problem: mount crashed with 100% cpu-load, no errormessage, hangs only, only kill -9 "solves" this |
| 09:38.36 | bozi_ | cardreader1(usb2) no card mountable |
| 09:38.44 | bozi_ | cardreader2(old,usb1) same card works nice! |
| 09:38.51 | wols_ | buscon: man wget. search for "Recursive Retrieval Options" |
| 09:38.51 | metbsd | so mirror is raid 0? |
| 09:38.54 | bozi_ | ext. hdd1 (3,5",usb2) fat-partition not mountable, ext3-part. works! |
| 09:39.05 | bozi_ | ext. hdd2 (2,5",usb2) all part. mountable, fat and ext3 |
| 09:39.18 | wols_ | bozi_: error messages are a wonderful thing |
| 09:39.53 | bozi_ | nothing appears wols_ it only hangs with 100% load |
| 09:40.19 | buscon | wols_: you mean the --delete-after option ? |
| 09:40.29 | Scurz | yo |
| 09:41.00 | antigod | add vfat to fstab |
| 09:42.22 | wols_ | buscon: no |
| 09:42.41 | matahari | pastebin is EXTREMELY slow |
| 09:42.55 | wols_ | !paste |
| 09:42.55 | dpkg | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
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| 09:43.09 | Scurz | I have this error message at the moment of the pc boots, ideas? |
| 09:43.13 | Scurz | * Not starting internet superserver: no services enabled. |
| 09:43.21 | rocketmagnet | hi, does someone know how to delete directories that are not empty with ftp ? |
| 09:43.22 | wols_ | Scurz: this is an error message how? |
| 09:43.32 | GreaseMonkey | gonna go now, cya |
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| 09:43.35 | wols_ | rocketmagnet: client feature. get a better client |
| 09:43.35 | rocketmagnet | mdelete tells me the dir is not empty =( |
| 09:43.36 | tralala | Scurz, it's fine |
| 09:43.36 | tonima | anyone using etch with 2.6.xx on esx 3 ? |
| 09:43.47 | wols_ | !vmware |
| 09:43.48 | dpkg | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported. Ask the vendor for support, or ask here: #vmware |
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| 09:44.00 | rocketmagnet | wols_: what is the good shell ftp for debian ? |
| 09:44.08 | wols_ | lftp, ncftp |
| 09:44.28 | matahari | wols_: /mnt/dev: http://rafb.net/p/d718rl85.html |
| 09:44.28 | shanky | is there any program in debian reconfigure network as during installation? |
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| 09:44.58 | Scurz | wols_: * Not starting internet superserver: no services enabled. |
| 09:45.09 | wols_ | matahari: and /dev ? |
| 09:45.17 | wols_ | shanky: no |
| 09:45.22 | wols_ | shanky: man interfaces |
| 09:45.31 | Scurz | wols_: on accout of this message, the pc doesn't boot |
| 09:45.33 | tralala | Scurz, that's not a problem, okay? |
| 09:45.38 | wols_ | Scurz: wrong |
| 09:45.39 | matahari | wols_: /dev: http://rafb.net/p/acgZ5249.html |
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| 09:46.18 | Scurz | tralala: "11:45 < Scurz> wols_: on accout of this message, the pc doesn't boot" |
| 09:46.45 | Overflow | where is the default script, so i can add a path to the $PATH? |
| 09:46.54 | tralala | Scurz, the pc not booting is totally unrelated to this message |
| 09:47.22 | shanky | wols_: I know how to edit interfaces file, but I need a tool to configure the network just answering some questions |
| 09:47.24 | tralala | Overflow, /etc/profile |
| 09:47.37 | wols_ | matahari: what was your mount line for that dev? |
| 09:47.45 | tralala | but it's generally a bad idea to modify it |
| 09:47.55 | Scurz | tralala: mm, I am not sure... |
| 09:47.57 | Overflow | thx |
| 09:48.04 | wols_ | Scurz: but we are very sure |
| 09:48.06 | matahari | wols_: i did it with mount --bind /dev /mnt/debian/dev |
| 09:48.09 | Scurz | wols_: okok |
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| 09:48.29 | Scurz | thank you |
| 09:48.33 | wols_ | matahari: I just tried that same line. works like a charm for me |
| 09:48.37 | tralala | Scurz, if you provide some more backgound we might be able to actually help you |
| 09:49.14 | matahari | wols_: don't ask me why - but now it seems to work too! |
| 09:49.14 | buscon | wols_: really can't find what I need... |
| 09:49.35 | wols_ | buscon: then give us more background what you need |
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| 09:50.02 | buscon | wols_: I just need a list of every links contained in an internet site |
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| 09:50.07 | buscon | *link |
| 09:50.28 | Scurz | tralala: the pc doesn't boot and it blocks on this message |
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| 09:50.46 | wols_ | buscon: wget downloads the whole site instead. doesn't generate a linklist |
| 09:50.48 | tbamr | oya. |
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| 09:50.59 | buscon | wols_: yez i know :) |
| 09:51.06 | tbamr | damn it. |
| 09:51.07 | tralala | Scurz, is this how you understande "more background"? |
| 09:51.09 | tbamr | !yum |
| 09:51.13 | tbamr | haha |
| 09:51.15 | tbamr | !beer |
| 09:51.15 | dpkg | beer is, like, liquid gold mate |
| 09:51.17 | matahari | wols_: but now i get the next error: /dev/sdb1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive |
| 09:51.22 | rocketmagnet | what does a connection with local port on 3246 ?? |
| 09:51.36 | rocketmagnet | the external port is 67 |
| 09:52.01 | cafuego | rocketmagnet: 67 is bootp |
| 09:52.02 | wols_ | cat /boot/grub/device.map |
| 09:52.22 | Scurz | tralala: I don't have more information. |
| 09:52.30 | rocketmagnet | but why does this need a open port ?? |
| 09:52.41 | rocketmagnet | i don't need any external boot options |
| 09:52.46 | wols_ | Scurz: ls /etc/rc2.d/S20* seems one of them hangs your PC for sme reason |
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| 09:53.00 | matahari | wols: (fd0) /dev/fd0 |
| 09:53.03 | wols_ | rocketmagnet: use netstat to find what process uses it |
| 09:53.07 | matahari | wols_: (fd0) /dev/fd0 |
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| 09:53.26 | tralala | Scurz, which debian, did it use to boot, how did it stop booting? |
| 09:53.47 | rocketmagnet | netstat -tape zeigt keinen port 67 oda 6667 =( |
| 09:54.19 | rocketmagnet | netstat -tape does not show any open ports 67 or 6667 |
| 09:54.38 | wols_ | !en |
| 09:54.38 | dpkg | english |
| 09:54.47 | wols_ | rocketmagnet: netstat -anp |
| 09:54.49 | Scurz | wols_: ok, |
| 09:54.50 | tralala | !engrish |
| 09:54.50 | dpkg | [engrish] at http://www.engrish.com |
| 09:54.57 | tbamr | heh |
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| 09:55.01 | Scurz | I will make start the PC on the live cd |
| 09:55.03 | tbamr | !finglish |
| 09:55.10 | tbamr | damn it.. |
| 09:55.13 | tbamr | :D |
| 09:55.40 | aleph0 | aptitude purge apache2; aptitude install apache2; /etc/init.d/apache2 start |
| 09:55.42 | aleph0 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:55.49 | aleph0 | module alias_module is built-in and can't be loaded |
| 09:55.53 | tralala | rocketmagnet, try something more modern like -cd or -dvd ;) |
| 09:55.54 | aleph0 | what is that?! |
| 09:56.28 | wols_ | aleph0: you did not remove apache |
| 09:56.36 | tralala | this is an apache configuration problem which happens to be irrelevant here |
| 09:56.45 | tbamr | aleph0, thereÅ always #apache :D |
| 09:56.47 | aleph0 | well they #apache people sent me here |
| 09:57.02 | wols_ | aleph0: dpkg -l |grep apache2. remove them ALL and purge |
| 09:57.15 | tbamr | haha |
| 09:57.23 | tbamr | aleph0, dpkg -P apache |
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| 09:57.48 | tbamr | hmm.. nice xenÅ downloaded |
| 09:57.49 | wols_ | tbamr: he doesn't even have apache installed |
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| 09:57.55 | tbamr | oh ok |
| 09:57.55 | tbamr | cool |
| 09:58.01 | tbamr | !enter syndrome |
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| 09:59.15 | fvwm | whois cvip |
| 09:59.24 | matahari | wols_: shall i change th device.map? |
| 10:00.12 | rocketmagnet | is it normal that both services are stared at startup: sysklogd AND klogd ? |
| 10:00.13 | metbsd | i want to setup raid0, with a stable kernel is it easy to do |
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| 10:02.19 | beaveling | hi |
| 10:02.44 | beaveling | id like to get some help |
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| 10:03.24 | beaveling | anyone? |
| 10:03.27 | tralala | beaveling, if you describe your problem you might get just that |
| 10:03.35 | beaveling | thanx |
| 10:03.54 | beaveling | [alpha] [amd64] [arm] [hppa] [i386] [ia64] [mips] [mipsel] [powerpc] [sparc] [s390] [source] [multi-arch] |
| 10:04.00 | tralala | I'm glad I could help |
| 10:04.06 | beaveling | I got P3 on my laptop |
| 10:04.16 | tralala | i386 |
| 10:04.17 | beaveling | should I get the i386? |
| 10:04.33 | metbsd | ... that's what you need to help about? |
| 10:04.39 | beaveling | yea |
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| 10:05.23 | mindmedic | beaveling: all desktop processors from intel/amd (since the 386) are kompatible to the i386 architecture |
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| 10:06.04 | beaveling | but a laptop? |
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| 10:07.12 | mindmedic | laptop processors are no different in their architecture .. you can use i386 for them too ... |
| 10:07.21 | beavel | ok |
| 10:07.39 | beavel | I tried Ubuntu but I got an error |
| 10:07.46 | eth01 | my core2duo, can virtually run anything (works backwards) |
| 10:08.16 | mindmedic | beavel: with the live-cd or with alternate cd? |
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| 10:14.13 | matahari | wols_: still here? |
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| 10:15.54 | buscon | does anybody know how to collect a list of every link of an internet site? |
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| 10:17.51 | TTT | hi, what package do I have to install to have standard C/posix functions in man? |
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| 10:20.10 | k-man__ | what is the debian way to build and install a kernel module not included with the kernel source? |
| 10:20.37 | RAOF | module-assistant, if possible |
| 10:21.09 | tralala | TTT, glibc-doc-reference it seems |
| 10:21.26 | k-man__ | raof, afaict, the module is not included with moduleassistant |
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| 10:23.32 | TTT | tralala, manpages-dev acually, found it, thanks for your help |
| 10:23.37 | beaveling | sorry, bad signal |
| 10:24.09 | tralala | using satelite? |
| 10:24.17 | beaveling | wifio |
| 10:24.46 | beaveling | had to change cards |
| 10:25.04 | RAOF | k-man__: Well. Then you probably want to install linux-headers, and just build the module |
| 10:25.45 | beaveling | that ubuntu error was Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0 |
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| 10:26.38 | matahari | wols_: everything appears in /dev (in the chroot) now - and i corrected the /boot/grub/device.map |
| 10:26.47 | k-man__ | RAOF, yeah, thats what I thought. But when I try and build it, I get this error: Makefile:266: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-2-k7/scripts/Kbuild.include: No such file or directory |
| 10:27.09 | matahari | wols_: but it is still strange - it tells me again, that it is not a block device or not found |
| 10:27.10 | eth01 | building from source is always dodgey. |
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| 10:28.25 | tralala | k-man__, here's an example makefile that I used to build an external module once: http://rafb.net/p/sZoX6j35.html |
| 10:28.45 | k-man__ | oh |
| 10:28.47 | k-man__ | thanks |
| 10:29.10 | k-man__ | i have a make file for it |
| 10:29.22 | k-man__ | its just it fails to build because of the error above |
| 10:29.31 | tralala | why are you using 2.6.17 anyway? |
| 10:29.38 | k-man__ | tralala, good question... |
| 10:30.06 | k-man__ | tralala, i tried upgrading to 2.6.22-rc5, but there are issues with getting it to work with the nvidia kernel module |
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| 10:30.49 | tralala | there's a good number of releases between 17 and 22, with 18 being the current debian stable |
| 10:31.08 | k-man__ | tralala, yeah.. i know |
| 10:31.22 | k-man__ | tralala, just that .17 was the one I had installed before i tried .22 |
| 10:31.26 | tralala | but anyway the make file I have does work |
| 10:31.26 | k-man__ | so i just went back to that |
| 10:32.01 | beaveling | trlala; do I have to get all files from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386/bt-cd/? |
| 10:32.08 | tralala | so I would suggest you to adapt it to your needs and use it |
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| 10:32.58 | tralala | beaveling, only netinstall is strictly needed if you have a good network connection. If not CD1 should be enough. |
| 10:33.15 | tralala | (and a supported nic) |
| 10:33.30 | k-man__ | tralala, the modules im trying to compile are for a usb dvb card |
| 10:33.38 | k-man__ | i suspect there are more than one to build |
| 10:33.44 | k-man__ | and theres a make file already |
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| 10:34.20 | RAOF | k-man__: You could always try getting the full kernel source. |
| 10:34.21 | beaveling | should I use torrent or from server is fast enough? |
| 10:34.35 | k-man__ | RAOF, yeah, i guess so |
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| 10:34.53 | RAOF | (as in, linux-source package) |
| 10:34.59 | tralala | k-man__, adapt the existing file using my example then |
| 10:35.04 | Gigantic | rsync :) |
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| 10:35.51 | beaveling | How much bandwith do servers give? or chold I dwnload thru torrent? |
| 10:35.53 | tralala | the most significant part is probably -C /lib/modules/2.6.17-2-amd64/build/ M=$(PWD) |
| 10:36.25 | tralala | download through torrent |
| 10:36.25 | inazad | Hi there, I want to recover a file from an .asc file but I don't have the key anymore... How !? |
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| 10:37.14 | Gigantic | beaveling: with rsync I'm getting about 200 |
| 10:37.21 | jelly-home | beaveling: you _don't_ need all the images, just netinst, and usually the mirrors are fast enough. |
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| 10:38.43 | rob33n_ | hi, I use xfce and I want to use a theme, but when I copy the theme in /usr/share/themes I get error like this: rob33n is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 10:38.43 | rob33n_ | what should I do? |
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| 10:39.27 | beaveling | in torrent getting 100 and going up, so thats fine |
| 10:39.27 | tralala | rob33n_, RUN!! |
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| 10:39.51 | rossMoHaX | how to take a screenshot not using ksnapshot? |
| 10:39.58 | rob33n_ | tralala, ?? |
| 10:40.01 | rossMoHaX | just X + fluxbox are running |
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| 10:42.18 | tralala | rob33n_, if you can't copy the theme to the system wide directory, copy it to your local one |
| 10:44.03 | rob33n_ | hmm, I think I understand let me try |
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| 10:44.48 | metbsd | spamassassin documentation is a piece of shit |
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| 10:45.09 | tralala | metbsd, ask your money back |
| 10:45.21 | dondelelcaro | SA's documentation isn't all that bad, actually. |
| 10:45.27 | dondelelcaro | it's just spread about a bit |
| 10:45.46 | metbsd | at least document it properly, dam it |
| 10:45.53 | dondelelcaro | metbsd: like what? |
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| 10:46.51 | metbsd | like, how do i configure spamasasin after i install it in exim |
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| 10:47.09 | dondelelcaro | metbsd: what type of configuration do you want to do? |
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| 10:47.22 | metbsd | exim4, SA, clamav |
| 10:47.25 | metbsd | mysql auth |
| 10:47.27 | kdeuser^ | Hey.. |
| 10:47.38 | metbsd | dovecot |
| 10:47.54 | dondelelcaro | metbsd: man Mail::Spamassassin::Conf; for SA; none of the other stuff has anything to do with spamassassin. |
| 10:48.10 | metbsd | that's why i want to config them one by one |
| 10:48.29 | dondelelcaro | well, there's no real problem with doing that |
| 10:48.35 | kdeuser^ | is there any way to surf anonymously in Debian ? |
| 10:48.50 | metbsd | where do they store that conf file for SA |
| 10:48.55 | dondelelcaro | kdeuser^: tor is a good place to start |
| 10:49.01 | kdeuser^ | each time i enter a chat channel.. I can see my ip |
| 10:49.02 | jelly-home | !test |
| 10:49.02 | dondelelcaro | metbsd: /etc/spamassassin |
| 10:49.09 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: fail. |
| 10:49.24 | jelly-home | I see :-) |
| 10:49.35 | jelly-home | no apt either? |
| 10:49.43 | kdeuser^ | dondelelcaro: does it hide the ip and location and stuff ? |
| 10:49.44 | jelly-home | oh it's just a bit slow |
| 10:50.25 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: yeah, the IRC server it's connected to seems to be a bit laggy |
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| 10:50.54 | dondelelcaro | kdeuser^: yes |
| 10:51.01 | kdeuser^ | installed it.. |
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| 10:51.23 | dondelelcaro | (course, there are many channels which just ban tor, like this one) |
| 10:51.38 | kdeuser^ | why ? |
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| 10:52.22 | jelly-home | because of the abuse? |
| 10:52.22 | kdeuser^ | oh.ok |
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| 10:52.55 | kdeuser^ | it even surfs websites anonymously ? |
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| 10:52.55 | dondelelcaro | kdeuser^: relatively so |
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| 10:53.06 | kdeuser^ | which is the best software other than tor ? |
| 10:53.17 | gordboy | i like vim |
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| 10:53.28 | tralala | hehe |
| 10:53.30 | kdeuser^ | heh.. |
| 10:53.46 | dondelelcaro | kdeuser^: a single piece of software won't actually anonymize anything. You have to use something like tor (or another proxy) to actually have some level of anonimity. |
| 10:54.01 | kdeuser^ | okay |
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| 10:54.08 | kdeuser^ | so I just run tor |
| 10:54.14 | dondelelcaro | 'course, at the end of the day, it doesn't really make much of a difference. |
| 10:54.30 | kdeuser^ | or do I need to do some configuration |
| 10:54.36 | dondelelcaro | kdeuser^: it has documentation |
| 10:54.43 | kdeuser^ | why does it not make any difference ? |
| 10:54.57 | wols_ | cause anonymous IP is a myth |
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| 10:55.14 | kdeuser^ | atleast I can hide the ip |
| 10:55.30 | kdeuser^ | rather than displaying it on every chat channel |
| 10:55.34 | wols_ | kdeuser^: it's about effective as copy protection. ever seen a working one? :) |
| 10:55.44 | kdeuser^ | nah |
| 10:55.45 | wols_ | kdeuser^: that's what cloaks are for |
| 10:56.01 | tralala | kdeuser^, if that's your only purpose you can get a cloak on freenode |
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| 10:56.30 | kdeuser^ | I would also like to surf without my ip |
| 10:56.44 | kdeuser^ | since I use im sites some times |
| 10:56.53 | tralala | kdeuser^, anonymity works as long as there isn't anybody strongly determined to find out who you are |
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| 10:57.27 | kdeuser^ | then that should work for mr |
| 10:57.31 | kdeuser^ | me * |
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| 11:00.21 | kdeuser^ | tor has too many options |
| 11:00.29 | kdeuser^ | I don`t know what to sue |
| 11:00.32 | kdeuser^ | use* |
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| 11:00.59 | tralala | don't use them all. Read the howtos/faqs/docs |
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| 11:01.36 | kdeuser^ | okay |
| 11:02.11 | metbsd | how do i enable ftpd? |
| 11:02.13 | metbsd | in inetd.conf |
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| 11:03.13 | xand | metbsd: why do you want to do that? |
| 11:03.14 | xand | !ftp |
| 11:03.14 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ftp is (File Transfer Protocol) This is a method of moving files from system to system using TCP/IP. There are three sane kinds of ftp: anonymous, encrypted and unprivileged (non-unix users). Unencrypted ftp using unix users will get your box pwn3d as fast as runnin windows on your firewall machine. |
| 11:03.31 | tralala | metbsd, I guess the installation should take care of that |
| 11:03.41 | metbsd | it does not |
| 11:03.45 | metbsd | my system is broken |
| 11:03.50 | metbsd | aptitude part |
| 11:04.11 | metbsd | how do i reinstall aptitude and apt-get? |
| 11:04.11 | tralala | and you're fixing it by installing ftpd?! |
| 11:04.19 | metbsd | no i can't fix it |
| 11:04.30 | metbsd | unless i delete everyting about apt-get and aptitdue |
| 11:04.40 | tralala | how came? |
| 11:04.43 | metbsd | and reinstall |
| 11:04.50 | metbsd | long story |
| 11:04.57 | metbsd | i've been here last week about a depencies problem |
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| 11:05.05 | metbsd | it installs shit and refuse to run init script |
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| 11:06.01 | metbsd | so i want to totally remove aptitude and apt-get |
| 11:06.05 | metbsd | is that possible? |
| 11:06.16 | Arafangion | metbsd: Yes, but idiotic. |
| 11:06.43 | metbsd | i've no choice here |
| 11:06.50 | metbsd | noone could help me |
| 11:06.57 | tralala | you might just as well install slackware |
| 11:07.04 | Marenz | what can i do, if xev recongnices different mouse buttons as the same? |
| 11:07.11 | Arafangion | metbsd: Nobody will help you unless you DETAIL THE PROBLEM! |
| 11:07.26 | metbsd | i'm not going to do that again, it's a waste of time |
| 11:07.31 | metbsd | it's not fixable |
| 11:07.36 | Arafangion | metbsd: Suit yourself. |
| 11:07.40 | tralala | reinstall |
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| 11:07.42 | metbsd | ok i'll show you |
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| 11:08.21 | Arafangion | metbsd: I assume you're using Etch? (Because otherwise you are assumed to be competent enough in Debian admin to fix it yourself) |
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| 11:08.44 | metbsd | we run etch only on our servers |
| 11:08.50 | Arafangion | Good. |
| 11:09.00 | metbsd | bad |
| 11:09.01 | Baldric | how do i fine where my Graphics cards are on th epci buss ? |
| 11:09.13 | Securi | Hi |
| 11:09.13 | Arafangion | Baldric: Maybe lspci. |
| 11:09.14 | kdeuser^ | tor doesn`t work..anyother app ? |
| 11:09.16 | tralala | do we read this as "etch only" or "onlyh on the servers"? |
| 11:09.17 | metbsd | debian is good without problem, it's not usable if there's anything fcked up |
| 11:09.26 | Securi | are there any tools that would show your memory/cpu activity on your desktop? |
| 11:09.33 | Securi | also your HDD space and network activity? |
| 11:09.36 | Baldric | thanks |
| 11:09.45 | Arafangion | Securi: gkrellm. |
| 11:09.48 | tralala | kdeuser^, tor works fine |
| 11:09.58 | Securi | ok thanks |
| 11:10.07 | kdeuser^ | I installed tor and privoxy |
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| 11:10.39 | kdeuser^ | and the tor plugin for firefox.. I am unable to view any site..its says your proxy is blocking sites |
| 11:10.55 | Securi | is there anything else as well? |
| 11:10.57 | kdeuser^ | I don`t have a proxy .. I using broadband at home |
| 11:11.21 | tralala | you don't need tor plugins, you need to configure privoxy as proxy |
| 11:11.23 | kdeuser^ | tralala: are you using tor ? |
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| 11:11.34 | kdeuser^ | oh.ok |
| 11:11.46 | metbsd | Arafangion, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29206/ |
| 11:11.47 | kdeuser^ | how do I do that ? |
| 11:11.52 | metbsd | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29206/ help!! |
| 11:12.17 | tralala | of course privoxy is to be configured to route connections through tor |
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| 11:12.51 | metbsd | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29206/ nonfixable debian bug |
| 11:12.51 | kdeuser^ | and I need to be root for all this ? |
| 11:12.59 | SoulChild | What programm (on debian) do i need to connect from windows to my debian desktop??? |
| 11:13.07 | SoulChild | via remote |
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| 11:13.27 | tarzeau | SoulChild: openssh-server ? |
| 11:13.30 | tralala | SoulChild, putty |
| 11:13.31 | kdeuser^ | then,,each time I connect to the net and want to use tor I have to su as root and do it |
| 11:13.36 | SoulChild | tarzeau: hi ,... thank you |
| 11:14.07 | kombi | rtc lost interrupts at 1024Hz <-- what is that? |
| 11:14.10 | tarzeau | SoulChild: you need what? an x server or ssh client on windows? |
| 11:14.20 | tarzeau | kombi: what are you doing? |
| 11:14.30 | kombi | tarzeau: playing audio files |
| 11:14.40 | tarzeau | kombi: one at a time? |
| 11:14.42 | SoulChild | tarzeau: ??? i want to connect with remote desktop ,.. so that i can control my debian from a windows machine |
| 11:14.52 | tarzeau | SoulChild: graphically? |
| 11:14.56 | kombi | tarzeau: maybe several, handled by asterisk |
| 11:14.59 | SoulChild | tarzeau: yes |
| 11:15.06 | __k|ArA | i can't find drivers for the modem URMET speed access usb . I use debian on a amd 64. Can you help me? |
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| 11:15.11 | tralala | kdeuser^, you need to confiugre tor and privoxy only once. THen you need to setup your iceweasel to use privoxy as proxy any time you need anonymous browsing. Disable it when you don't need anonymous browsing. Read the docs |
| 11:15.23 | kdeuser^ | okay |
| 11:15.23 | tarzeau | SoulChild: you might want to install xming on windows |
| 11:15.35 | tarzeau | SoulChild: then use putty with x forwarding |
| 11:15.36 | SoulChild | tarzeau: i ll try |
| 11:15.45 | kryptoz | Hi guys.. how do i filter out the ip addresses from the list --> 192.168.1.2,192.168.1.3,899,10.4.2.5 ? |
| 11:15.48 | Securi | is there an alternative to KGrellm ? |
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| 11:15.53 | Securi | i dont really like the style f it |
| 11:15.56 | tarzeau | Securi: what does it do? |
| 11:16.00 | kryptoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.17 | Securi | it tell you CPU usage |
| 11:16.17 | Securi | hdd |
| 11:16.19 | Securi | network |
| 11:16.20 | tarzeau | kryptoz: sed s/,/\n/g | grep whatever? |
| 11:16.20 | kdeuser^ | I`ll have to configure tor first right ? |
| 11:16.20 | Securi | ram usage |
| 11:16.21 | Securi | etc |
| 11:16.21 | Securi | :) |
| 11:16.27 | Securi | just a stats prog really |
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| 11:16.43 | tarzeau | Securi: bubblefishymon |
| 11:17.03 | hihiu | What are the advantages of Debian v Ubuntu? |
| 11:17.09 | kombi | tarzeau: I understand that rtc stands for real time clock, just how can it loose interrupts.. |
| 11:17.31 | tarzeau | !why debian |
| 11:17.37 | kdeuser^ | Do I have to configure it as a client or server ? |
| 11:17.40 | tarzeau | kombi: too much of them? |
| 11:17.54 | tarzeau | kombi: like when you care 10 bottles of wine, one falls down on the ground? |
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| 11:18.38 | hihiu | they why debian thing didn't work |
| 11:18.41 | hihiu | the* |
| 11:18.48 | kdeuser^ | tralala: http://tor.eff.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en It says tor comes configured by default |
| 11:18.51 | kombi | tarzeau: lol, good point, just increased /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq to 1024, but not sure that will help yet (let's share that bottle) |
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| 11:19.08 | kdeuser^ | I get this when I run tor |
| 11:19.10 | kdeuser^ | I learned some more directory information, but not enough to build a circuit. |
| 11:19.18 | hihiu | !why debian |
| 11:19.18 | Securi | tarzeau is there anything that stays on your desktop but transparent? |
| 11:19.27 | jatt | !ubuntu |
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| 11:19.39 | tarzeau | Securi: no |
| 11:19.39 | tralala | kdeuser^, however privoxy has to be configured manually, because it's not part of otr |
| 11:19.49 | tarzeau | Securi: you don't like bubblefishymon ? |
| 11:19.51 | Securi | iv seen some screenshots.. |
| 11:19.52 | kdeuser^ | is that error ok / |
| 11:19.57 | Securi | no its the same as the first one :S |
| 11:19.58 | Securi | lol |
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| 11:20.32 | tralala | kdeuser^, how do you run tor? |
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| 11:21.36 | jatt | what is tor good for? |
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| 11:21.54 | tralala | !tor |
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| 11:22.03 | tralala | %tor |
| 11:22.03 | badgers | tor is, like, a system of proxies to maintain anonymity, see http://tor.eff.org/ or not allowed on #debian, see http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#tor |
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| 11:23.01 | Gigantic | someone know where to get voices for Festivel? |
| 11:23.07 | Gigantic | Festival |
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| 11:23.41 | tralala | from #warez? |
| 11:23.43 | kdeuser^ | done.. I configured privoxy and restarted it |
| 11:23.56 | Gigantic | warez? |
| 11:24.05 | tralala | now configure iceweasel to use it |
| 11:24.15 | Gigantic | kdeuser^: I'd suggest you SOCKS |
| 11:24.39 | kdeuser^ | tralala: I google for a info page .. and do that |
| 11:24.46 | __k|ArA | how i can do? damn modem !!! |
| 11:25.28 | tralala | if the festival's homepage doesn't have any I guess you can find only propriarity |
| 11:25.31 | BadKernel | Iam trying to get 2x Nvida cards runnint as one desk top.... can someone tell me whee iam going wrong here http://paste.uni.cc/16673 |
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| 11:26.04 | lvh | BadKernel: SLI? |
| 11:26.05 | kdeuser^ | tralala: I looked for a guide.. it says install the switch proxy extension shall I do that ? or is there a better way |
| 11:26.14 | abrotman | BadKernel: you might want to ask #nvidia .. and they'll also need your X log |
| 11:26.15 | kdeuser^ | how did you do it? |
| 11:26.26 | BadKernel | ok thanks |
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| 11:26.37 | tralala | kdeuser^, have you never configured a web browser to use a proxy? |
| 11:26.45 | kdeuser^ | nope |
| 11:26.53 | lvh | btw |
| 11:27.00 | lvh | dont tell them you want 1 desktop, you'll confuse them |
| 11:27.06 | lvh | just say "I want to get xinerama to work" |
| 11:27.13 | BadKernel | kk |
| 11:27.16 | kdeuser^ | tralala: tell me how to do it |
| 11:27.25 | tralala | kdeuser^, edit->preferences->advanced->network->settings |
| 11:27.28 | kdeuser^ | I`ll learn now atleast :) |
| 11:28.06 | kdeuser^ | ok.now |
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| 11:28.38 | Gigantic | kdeuser^: there is a thing called FoxyProxy |
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| 11:29.04 | Gigantic | kdeuser^: this far it work togeter (addons.mozilla.org) |
| 11:29.08 | kdeuser^ | no I don`t want to use extensions...I `ll do what tralala says |
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| 11:29.27 | kdeuser^ | tralala: shall I give auto-detect ? |
| 11:29.40 | kdeuser^ | heh.. no hard feelings Gigantic |
| 11:29.51 | tralala | manual proxy configuration, server localhost port 8118 |
| 11:30.20 | kdeuser^ | for http proxy ? |
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| 11:30.27 | kdeuser^ | thats already there |
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| 11:30.59 | tralala | good |
| 11:31.20 | tralala | go to http://whatsmyip.org/ to see if your config is good |
| 11:31.41 | kdeuser^ | hey.. I checked . it worked |
| 11:31.52 | kdeuser^ | http://whatsmyip.org/ |
| 11:32.01 | tralala | you mean it shows a different IP than yours? |
| 11:32.07 | kdeuser^ | http://torcheck.xenobite.eu/ |
| 11:32.41 | kdeuser^ | I checked this site and it says |
| 11:32.41 | kdeuser^ | Your IP is identified to be a Tor-EXIT. |
| 11:32.41 | kdeuser^ | So you are using Tor successfully to reach the web. |
| 11:32.57 | tralala | congratulations! |
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| 11:33.07 | kdeuser^ | thanks mate |
| 11:33.19 | tralala | kdeuser^, you're welcome |
| 11:33.41 | kdeuser^ | see my ip in teh chat and my ip the site shows is 202.109.114.178) |
| 11:33.57 | kdeuser^ | my actual ip is 122 series |
| 11:34.08 | kdeuser^ | ok. thanks tralala |
| 11:34.10 | kdeuser^ | bye |
| 11:34.43 | kdeuser^ | its a bit slow though |
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| 11:45.47 | neobarn | Im trying to install python-compizconfig, but I get this error: "python (>= 2.5) but 2.4.4-6 is to be installed", I have python2.5 installed, so I dont know why it complains. Anyone? |
| 11:45.48 | ruied__ | I'm trying to install a raid1 controller with debian. My raid controller is srcsas18e... I don't find this in the kernel... |
| 11:45.48 | ruied__ | hardware raid |
| 11:46.59 | zecrazytux | maybe cuz python 2.4 is default |
| 11:47.26 | zecrazytux | python 2.5 is instalable but it doesn't upgrade python 2.4, there the two versions in the system |
| 11:47.37 | capiira | any dm-crypt master here? |
| 11:47.39 | zecrazytux | and python may be a symlink to python2.4 |
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| 11:48.01 | zecrazytux | look at it, neobarn |
| 11:48.10 | neobarn | zecrazytux: yeah, that's correct. I tried to make new symlinks to the 2.5 version, but same error |
| 11:48.12 | zecrazytux | capiira: no, sorry |
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| 11:48.31 | neobarn | zecrazytux: do you know how I can make 2.5 default? |
| 11:48.35 | zecrazytux | neobarn: might be more complex that a symlink |
| 11:48.38 | capiira | i wonder is its possible to setup home to a crypted partition while installing |
| 11:48.43 | zecrazytux | cuz there's dependencies |
| 11:48.47 | zecrazytux | librairies |
| 11:48.51 | neobarn | zecrazytux: might be so :-) guess I have to google some more |
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| 11:49.25 | zecrazytux | i think so, i had the same pb, but as i don't really give a fuck to beryl and so on... |
| 11:49.26 | capiira | i mean to a already crypted old partition |
| 11:49.41 | Maerz | how to reset my gamma in X? a game changed the setting and crashed before reseting it |
| 11:50.29 | Scurz | wols_: http://paste.debian.net/32340 |
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| 11:51.40 | abrotman | neobarn: you're not supposed to make it the default |
| 11:51.56 | neobarn | abrotman: ok. is there another way to solve it then? |
| 11:51.57 | wols_ | Scurz: find /eetc -name S??inetd |
| 11:52.12 | AKX | Good morning. I've a server, where lately Apache 2 has, when under rather heavy load, started spiking the server loads up to around 60 from their usual 1 to 4. Anyone know the reason to this and preferably a fix? |
| 11:52.45 | abrotman | neobarn: lots of system bits depend on python being 2.4 .. your python app can specify which python it uses .. when there's a python transition to 2.5 you'll be sure to notice |
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| 11:53.18 | wols_ | capiira: there is |
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| 11:54.23 | neobarn | abrotman: ok :-) guess my problem is that Im using ubuntu fiesty packages, will see if I can find compiz fusion for debian |
| 11:55.10 | Scurz | wols_: there is nothing |
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| 11:57.33 | zecrazyt1x | wooooaw lost packets -_- |
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| 11:58.38 | Gigantic | !broken |
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| 11:59.20 | zecrazyt1x | neobarn: which graphic card do you have ? |
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| 11:59.38 | abchirk | Which packacge I need to watch .wmv files...with kaffeine?? |
| 11:59.45 | zecrazyt1x | w23codecs |
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| 12:00.39 | neobarn | zecrazyt1x: GF 6600GT :-) why? |
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| 12:01.00 | abchirk | mh zecrazyt1x aptitude doesnt find it? |
| 12:01.19 | abrotman | neobarn: uhm .. mixing distro packages is bad |
| 12:01.27 | abrotman | really bad |
| 12:01.38 | abrotman | abchirk: /msg dpkg w32codecs |
| 12:01.46 | zecrazyt1x | neobarn: cuz ati sux |
| 12:01.50 | abrotman | abchirk: /msg dpkg debian-multimedia |
| 12:01.56 | Scurz | abchirk: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 12:01.58 | solemnwarning | Is there any video editing software similar to Ulead Video Studio 11? |
| 12:02.06 | abrotman | what does ulead do? |
| 12:02.28 | solemnwarning | Split/combine video, subtitles, audio tracks, encodes, ect |
| 12:02.28 | zecrazyt1x | no |
| 12:02.29 | neobarn | zecrazyt1x: yeah, trying to find a howto to install compiz fusion in debian |
| 12:02.30 | zecrazyt1x | lol |
| 12:02.34 | abrotman | why would anyone take the advice of a person who can't spell "cuz" or "sux" |
| 12:02.35 | zecrazyt1x | cinelerra, kino |
| 12:02.38 | neobarn | zecrazyt1x: and idd, ati sucks |
| 12:02.44 | solemnwarning | I need a simple one for someone else to use |
| 12:02.47 | Scurz | wols_: ideas? |
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| 12:02.55 | Dark_iNiTro | hi |
| 12:02.56 | solemnwarning | Cinelerra is good but way too complicated |
| 12:03.07 | zecrazyt1x | right |
| 12:03.10 | zecrazyt1x | kino is simple |
| 12:03.11 | jelly-home | abrotman: cuz they don't sux? |
| 12:03.23 | abrotman | jelly-home: you're not helping! |
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| 12:03.42 | jelly-home | I never meant to, so that's ok |
| 12:04.00 | zecrazyt1x | abrotman: what's the problem ? you prefer "sucks" and "because" ? |
| 12:04.04 | jelly-home | !penixstrike |
| 12:04.09 | zecrazyt1x | omg, abrev are evil |
| 12:04.11 | abchirk_ | mh, abchirk dpkg isnt here :( |
| 12:04.11 | abrotman | zecrazyt1x: at least an attempt :) |
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| 12:04.18 | Dark_iNiTro | When I try install BitchX from sources I get "configure: error: cannot find tgetent or setupterm" |
| 12:04.23 | abchirk_ | ack I meant abrotman ;) |
| 12:04.27 | abrotman | abchirk_: yes he is |
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| 12:04.31 | abrotman | oh bugger |
| 12:04.48 | abrotman | neither is aptitude .. grrr |
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| 12:04.53 | jelly-home | no wet spots today. |
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| 12:04.59 | abrotman | BOTS!!!! |
| 12:05.06 | jelly-home | ~test |
| 12:05.10 | apt | Test Passed! |
| 12:05.10 | abchirk_ | :( |
| 12:05.10 | jelly-home | %test |
| 12:05.10 | badgers | Test Failed. |
| 12:05.12 | abrotman | yeah .. but apt is useless |
| 12:05.19 | abrotman | badgers: debian-multimedia |
| 12:05.19 | badgers | debian-multimedia is, like, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch>. |
| 12:05.24 | abrotman | bah .. way way old |
| 12:05.40 | abchirk_ | badgers w32codecs |
| 12:05.40 | badgers | w32codecs is probably a non-free package that is not distributed by Debian due to legal issues. The package provides codecs for several multimedia formats, such as AVI, Realmedia, and Windows Media. To get w32codecs, ask me about <debian-multimedia> |
| 12:05.49 | abrotman | they're both old |
| 12:05.53 | abchirk_ | yes :) |
| 12:06.00 | solemnwarning | Where's dpkg? |
| 12:06.04 | abrotman | abchirk_: just go to debian-multimedia.org .. if you can't figure it out .. ask again |
| 12:06.14 | abchirk_ | mh yes ok thx :) |
| 12:06.19 | redpill | why not try mplayer |
| 12:06.25 | jelly-home | solemnwarning: in /usr/bin? |
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| 12:06.44 | abrotman | redpill: you still need some codecs from somewhere .. doesn't matter if it's xine or mplayer |
| 12:06.46 | abchirk_ | abrotman but I have the multimedia sources in my sources.list? |
| 12:06.52 | abrotman | abchirk_: you do ? |
| 12:07.05 | abchirk_ | Mh yes...but maybe they are too old :( |
| 12:07.17 | zecrazyt1x | did ya update ? |
| 12:07.26 | prahal | hi time-admin in gnome-system-tools tells me to install ntp when I try to use time servers. I already have ntp ... |
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| 12:07.44 | abrotman | abchirk_: and when you apt-cache policy w32codecs .. nothing ? |
| 12:07.45 | zecrazyt1x | i can read wmv with mplayer |
| 12:08.04 | abrotman | zecrazyt1x: and do you have the codecs installed also ? |
| 12:08.06 | jelly-home | kaffeine uses xinelib methinks |
| 12:08.10 | abrotman | it does |
| 12:08.26 | Gigantic | by default |
| 12:08.30 | abchirk_ | installed :(none) ... or is it forbidden to have the mudltimedia source for lenny? |
| 12:08.49 | abrotman | abchirk_: not at all |
| 12:08.49 | zecrazyt1x | abrotman: of course yes, w32codecs |
| 12:08.51 | Gigantic | not all wmv files can be run tho |
| 12:08.55 | abchirk_ | deb http://debian-multimedia.org lenny main |
| 12:08.57 | abrotman | zecrazyt1x: and that's why you can view them |
| 12:09.03 | zecrazyt1x | i did'nt try protected wmv |
| 12:09.10 | zecrazyt1x | is yours protected ? |
| 12:09.12 | solemnwarning | jelly-home: The bot I mean....... |
| 12:09.18 | abrotman | abchirk_: this is i386 .. right ? |
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| 12:09.25 | abchirk_ | No I have amd64 :( |
| 12:09.26 | jelly-home | so libxine1-ffmpeg or whatever? |
| 12:09.28 | abrotman | damn you! |
| 12:09.34 | abrotman | abchirk_: no wmv for you! |
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| 12:09.51 | zecrazyt1x | hmm, we're telling hi mto install w32codecs for 15mn :) |
| 12:09.51 | abchirk_ | Rly?? |
| 12:09.55 | jelly-home | abchirk_: at least some wmv can be viewed with ffmpeg/libavcodecs |
| 12:09.56 | zecrazyt1x | he should have isntalled it |
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| 12:10.02 | abrotman | abchirk_: i think you can get the codecs though |
| 12:10.12 | zecrazyt1x | you can also try vlc |
| 12:10.20 | wols_ | Scurz: find /etc -name S??inetd |
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| 12:10.36 | Scurz | wols_: there is nothing ! ;) |
| 12:10.51 | Gigantic | no diff betoween VLC and Xine in wmv |
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| 12:11.05 | abrotman | abchirk_: possibly ask #debian-amd64 on irc.oftc.net if there's somewhere to get codecs |
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| 12:11.31 | wols_ | Scurz: then your inetd never gets loaded |
| 12:12.15 | abchirk_ | mh ok thx |
| 12:12.24 | Scurz | ah |
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| 12:13.14 | Scurz | wols_: and, that to make? |
| 12:13.50 | wols_ | Scurz: no. since inetd gets loaded (you get the warning) but there is no place it gets called: you have been r00ted. reinstal. HAND |
| 12:14.24 | Scurz | :( |
| 12:14.42 | wols_ | Scurz: in translation: either give me proper info or go away |
| 12:15.48 | Scurz | wols_: I don't understand, I don't have more information... :( |
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| 12:16.17 | wols_ | Scurz: what exact debian version? |
| 12:16.24 | Scurz | etch |
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| 12:17.55 | wols_ | Scurz: then there is a /etc/rc2.d/S20inetd |
| 12:18.28 | Scurz | wols_: I use the official kernels of debian |
| 12:18.52 | prahal | no idea what could cause time-admin to fail ? |
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| 12:19.15 | anapivirtua | Hi all |
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| 12:20.03 | Scurz | wols_: no :( |
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| 12:20.57 | wols_ | Scurz: find /etc |grep inetd |
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| 12:21.28 | Scurz | wols_: http://paste.debian.net/32342 |
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| 12:22.12 | wols_ | lastlog Scurz |
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| 12:22.53 | wols_ | Scurz: do the other S20 initscripts put out messages? |
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| 12:23.21 | Scurz | wols_: But I have tried to install my_ kernel myself, and to reboot on this kernel, but I have a kernel panic, then, I try to reboot on the official kernel |
| 12:23.28 | abrotman | prahal: is ntpdate installed ? |
| 12:23.41 | Scurz | -myself |
| 12:24.12 | prahal | abrotman, no. gnome-system-tools suggest ntp but not ntpdate . I though it was not needed |
| 12:25.01 | abrotman | prahal: i'm just wondering |
| 12:25.38 | abrotman | prahal: and ntp is already installed ? |
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| 12:27.06 | prahal | abrotman, yes ntp was already installed and running. Adding ntpdate did not helped (though it may be disabled if ntp is already installed) |
| 12:27.39 | abrotman | prahal: maybe read the docs in /usr/share/doc/gnome-system-tools/ |
| 12:28.25 | subx | does anybody know of a good way of managing / creating passwords you can rememember or have easy access to? |
| 12:28.39 | tralala | subx, mypasswordsafe |
| 12:28.48 | subx | i need about 10000 passwords these days.. |
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| 12:30.04 | subx | tralala: im thinking the best passwords are the ones what are competely random but they are nearly impossible to rememeber |
| 12:30.11 | prahal | abrotman, I did and did again. Nothing about my issue |
| 12:30.16 | subx | what if im away from home and need to log into boxes? |
| 12:30.18 | boro | pwgen to generate |
| 12:30.29 | abrotman | prahal: anything in the bts ? |
| 12:30.36 | boro | and pgp to encrypt ? |
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| 12:30.49 | abrotman | they have password applications |
| 12:31.00 | prahal | no |
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| 12:31.12 | subx | k8Fc8X3yq <-- how is one meant to remember something like that? |
| 12:31.14 | tralala | subx, use a password manager - you need to remember only onemaster password. Mine is random and nearly impossible to remember. |
| 12:31.22 | subx | ok |
| 12:32.15 | subx | i think management of passwords is a important issue and quite often over looked |
| 12:32.33 | zecrazyt1x | subx, type it twenty times and you'll remember |
| 12:32.34 | zecrazyt1x | :) |
| 12:32.35 | tralala | subx, 16 chars long, randomly generated. When you type it a few times your fingers will remember it. |
| 12:32.36 | subx | i think its about time i stopped using test123 for everything |
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| 12:33.16 | tralala | the rest of my passwords are randomly generated. |
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| 12:33.30 | tralala | I don't know a single one of them |
| 12:33.45 | subx | im looking at this: http://www.semanticgap.com/myps/ |
| 12:33.46 | tralala | I'm just copying them from the password manager |
| 12:34.39 | subx | password manager should deal with the problems when working from home but when your away from home you will still need to rememeber various passwords for boxes, websites etc |
| 12:34.50 | boro | apt-get install pwgen |
| 12:35.08 | tralala | that's what I'm using. The etch version in the amd64 port has a nasty bug - you can't save the safe without destroying it |
| 12:35.17 | subx | :-S |
| 12:35.19 | boro | pwgen $password_length $number_of_them |
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| 12:35.52 | tralala | subx, not quite, you just need to have a copy of your safe with you/online |
| 12:37.31 | subx | is a bit worrying if one passwords protects 70 passwords? |
| 12:37.51 | boro | google found this for me: https://www.passpack.com/info/home/ |
| 12:38.15 | tralala | not if the master password is good enough |
| 12:39.00 | subx | one complex 16 character password should be ok? |
| 12:39.10 | tralala | of course, changing the passwords every once in a while is always a good idea |
| 12:39.31 | tralala | I consider it okay for my needs |
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| 12:39.59 | subx | i could a system where i use 2 complex passwords, 1 password to access the safe and another password to open the safe |
| 12:40.06 | subx | *haev |
| 12:40.08 | subx | have |
| 12:40.17 | abrotman | god forbid you forget one of them |
| 12:40.20 | subx | and have that safe online |
| 12:40.38 | subx | ill make a hard copy of both passwords and leave in a safe place at home |
| 12:41.08 | tralala | you don't really need a password for putting it online |
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| 12:41.16 | subx | why? |
| 12:41.26 | tralala | becaue it's already encrypted |
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| 12:41.37 | subx | the first layer of protection is for hiding it so people dont know its even there |
| 12:41.47 | subx | the 2nd layer is the encryption password key |
| 12:41.52 | Scurz | wols_: http://paste.debian.net/32343 |
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| 12:42.30 | tralala | of course you ming want to name the file something boring like docs.cue |
| 12:42.34 | tralala | might |
| 12:42.42 | subx | tralala: it doesnt stop people from cracking it if people can access it |
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| 12:43.29 | tralala | subx, it makes it a tiny target though |
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| 12:44.29 | tralala | and it saves you the trouble of remembering a second password |
| 12:44.39 | subx | yep |
| 12:44.55 | boro | here it proposes to be secure ;) https://www.passpack.com/info/home/ |
| 12:45.04 | subx | the idea of having every single password u use online is a scary thought |
| 12:45.08 | tralala | not and a second password gives you only marginal security increase anyway |
| 12:45.13 | subx | even if it is encrypted |
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| 12:46.27 | subx | maybe it would be better to choose a way of writing passwords what you can rememeber but they still appear random to anybody else |
| 12:46.33 | tralala | boro, right - giving your passwords to a random web site is a great idear! |
| 12:47.33 | boro | someone must be trusted, like CA's are |
| 12:48.17 | tralala | the chances are that using a password safe is going to be once of the strongest links in your chain |
| 12:48.44 | tralala | if your worried about security there's plenty of stuff that will come ahead of the safe |
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| 12:56.39 | abrotman | badgers: tell fqh about root |
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| 12:58.57 | tralala | what's wrong with dpkg/ |
| 12:59.16 | wols_ | tralala: on strike |
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| 12:59.36 | MilhousePunkRock | Hello everyone! |
| 12:59.40 | tralala | heh |
| 12:59.51 | tralala | %qotd0 |
| 12:59.51 | badgers | <Mandork_> how does pron work anyways ? |
| 13:00.48 | zecrazyt1x | he MilhousePunkRock |
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| 13:01.24 | MilhousePunkRock | How would I make those changes permanent on debian --> http://mediatomb.cc/pages/documentation#id2854769 ?? |
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| 13:06.12 | tralala | MilhousePunkRock, man interfaces |
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| 13:06.45 | user1__ | can someone tell me ow to completely remove apt-get aptitude ? |
| 13:07.02 | azeem | user1__: remove aptitude? |
| 13:07.09 | tralala | by installing slackware |
| 13:07.10 | wols_ | user1__: what is your problem? |
| 13:07.15 | azeem | tralala: eh? |
| 13:07.19 | user1__ | and all its belonging |
| 13:07.29 | azeem | user1__: what exactly do you want to remove, and why |
| 13:07.31 | user1__ | i need to reinstall it |
| 13:07.31 | zecrazyt1x | how do you tell using ? * + in shell ? |
| 13:07.39 | azeem | user1__: you can reinstall without removing |
| 13:07.40 | user1__ | my aptitude is fcked up |
| 13:07.42 | tralala | azeem, it doesn't have any evil package management |
| 13:07.49 | wols_ | zecrazyt1x: escape them with \ |
| 13:07.51 | azeem | tralala: slackware is off-topic here |
| 13:07.54 | user1__ | it won't execute postinstall script |
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| 13:08.01 | azeem | user1__: pastebin the error |
| 13:08.03 | azeem | !paste |
| 13:08.10 | wols_ | user1__: /msg dpkg bat |
| 13:08.14 | azeem | eh. |
| 13:08.15 | azeem | !hi |
| 13:08.23 | azeem | the bot is down |
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| 13:08.25 | wols_ | well. dpkg is on strike :( |
| 13:08.35 | zecrazyt1x | wols_: erf, my question is: what's the name its definition is "using ?, +, * |
| 13:08.58 | zecrazyt1x | sorry for my english, i'am a french and young noob =) |
| 13:09.12 | tralala | zecrazyt1x, wildcardsw? |
| 13:09.22 | tralala | globbing? |
| 13:09.26 | zecrazyt1x | globbing :) |
| 13:09.30 | zecrazyt1x | thanks |
| 13:09.37 | dimir | Moin! |
| 13:09.39 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29211/ |
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| 13:10.04 | Scurz | wols_: http://paste.debian.net/32344 |
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| 13:10.26 | azeem | user1__: that is about ftpd, not aptitude |
| 13:10.27 | user1__ | i want to keep everything excet this stupid package management system that disable my server |
| 13:10.48 | zecrazyt1x | user1__: which package mangement ? |
| 13:10.52 | user1__ | it's like this when i did to every single package |
| 13:10.55 | azeem | user1__: which version of Debian are you running? |
| 13:10.57 | user1__ | the debian package |
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| 13:10.58 | user1__ | etch |
| 13:11.00 | user1__ | 4.0 |
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| 13:11.30 | zecrazyt1x | user1__: stupid package management ? |
| 13:11.32 | azeem | user1__: this problem looks ftpd-specific to me |
| 13:11.39 | user1__ | so i want to keep mysql, exim4, everyting.. except this package system |
| 13:11.42 | azeem | zecrazyt1x: please don't get into a discussion about this |
| 13:11.49 | azeem | user1__: you cannot |
| 13:11.56 | user1__ | oh shit |
| 13:12.00 | user1__ | why the hell not |
| 13:12.01 | azeem | user1__: apparently you messed around with inetd |
| 13:12.04 | user1__ | fuck |
| 13:12.08 | user1__ | no fuck i did not |
| 13:12.15 | azeem | user1__: check your language |
| 13:12.17 | zecrazyt1x | calm down user1__ 0° |
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| 13:12.39 | user1__ | i can't remove it? i have to live with this bug? |
| 13:12.40 | azeem | user1__: and show what happens when you try to purge another program, please |
| 13:12.59 | azeem | user1__: this is likely a bug in the ftpd package or the way it interacts with other packages |
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| 13:13.07 | azeem | user1__: it is in no way a problem with the package management |
| 13:13.51 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29212/ |
| 13:13.58 | user1__ | now telnet has problem? |
| 13:14.12 | azeem | Errors were encountered while processing: ftpd |
| 13:14.13 | azeem | no. |
| 13:14.16 | azeem | it's still ftpfs |
| 13:14.17 | user1__ | btw |
| 13:14.18 | azeem | ftpd |
| 13:14.25 | user1__ | i m removing telnet |
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| 13:14.31 | user1__ | why it's doing shit on ftp |
| 13:14.36 | azeem | user1__: removing relnet workd |
| 13:14.47 | user1__ | ? |
| 13:14.49 | azeem | apt-get tried to configure ftpd, becuase it hasn't been successfully configured yet |
| 13:14.56 | azeem | telnet* |
| 13:15.05 | user1__ | but i already removd ftpd |
| 13:15.12 | azeem | not successfully |
| 13:15.27 | user1__ | so what do i do |
| 13:15.36 | azeem | paste the content of /var/lib/dpkg/info/ftpd.postinst to the pastebin, please |
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| 13:16.22 | vin` | post.rm probably, since he's trying to purge it |
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| 13:16.34 | azeem | "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" |
| 13:16.35 | ergin | hello fellow users |
| 13:16.44 | vin` | ah |
| 13:16.47 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29213/ |
| 13:16.57 | ergin | my question: what is s letter on directory listings? |
| 13:17.03 | Scurz | I have a big problem, the pc doesn't boot, it blocks on "* Not starting internet superserver: no services enabled.", that to make ? Thank you. |
| 13:17.04 | user1__ | i don't think is the ftpd package problem |
| 13:17.14 | ergin | like srwx--r-x |
| 13:17.33 | wols_ | ergin: d |
| 13:17.35 | tralala | ergin, sticky or man chmod |
| 13:17.44 | azeem | user1__: I think |
| 13:17.55 | ergin | tralala: thx bro |
| 13:18.00 | ergin | ill try |
| 13:18.27 | azeem | user1__: what does "dpkg -S /usr/sbin/update-inetd" say? |
| 13:18.45 | user1__ | you won't fix it, many debian experts were helping me the other day |
| 13:19.07 | azeem | that's a pretty fatalistic attitude |
| 13:19.08 | user1__ | diversion by rlinetd from: /usr/sbin/update-inetd |
| 13:19.09 | user1__ | diversion by rlinetd to: /usr/sbin/update-inetd.real |
| 13:19.09 | user1__ | rlinetd: /usr/sbin/update-inetd |
| 13:19.12 | azeem | aha |
| 13:19.23 | azeem | who said who didn't mess around with inetd? |
| 13:19.33 | zecrazytux | :) |
| 13:19.43 | azeem | your inetd implementation isn't able to deal with ftpd's postinst script |
| 13:19.44 | user1__ | i did not |
| 13:19.49 | azeem | user1__: then your admin did |
| 13:19.56 | wols_ | !inf rlinetd |
| 13:19.57 | user1__ | what should i do now |
| 13:20.09 | wols_ | user1__: install a proper inetd. what debian version is this? |
| 13:20.15 | user1__ | etcj |
| 13:20.17 | user1__ | 4 |
| 13:20.17 | azeem | Description: gruesomely over-featured inetd replacement |
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| 13:20.26 | azeem | user1__: either install the regular inetd again |
| 13:20.42 | user1__ | or |
| 13:20.43 | azeem | user1__: or disable the above ftpd postinst script by adding an "exit 0" as second line |
| 13:20.49 | azeem | I suggest the former |
| 13:20.53 | user1__ | ok |
| 13:20.58 | user1__ | what's the name of regular inetd |
| 13:21.05 | user1__ | i'd do anything you say |
| 13:21.08 | azeem | you'll probably have further trouble with other packages in the future |
| 13:21.12 | user1__ | to fix this problem |
| 13:21.22 | user1__ | why |
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| 13:21.38 | azeem | user1__: try "apt-get install openbsd-inetd" |
| 13:21.58 | azeem | user1__: further trouble if you do the second alternative, I mean |
| 13:22.01 | user1__ | why not aptitude |
| 13:22.12 | wols_ | user1__: aptitude is fine |
| 13:22.24 | azeem | or aptitude |
| 13:22.28 | chris_abyi | hi! I'd like to install the actual nvidia drivers here (on debian etch, amd64) and just downloaded them. Now the installer tells me that the "kernel sources" are missing. could you tell me which package I have to install for this? |
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| 13:22.35 | chris_abyi | running 2.6.18-amd64-smp |
| 13:22.47 | azeem | chris_abyi: don't use the nvidia.com installer |
| 13:22.56 | azeem | !hi |
| 13:23.01 | chris_abyi | azeem: why shouldn't i? |
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| 13:23.07 | chris_abyi | or what should I do instead? |
| 13:23.07 | tralala | %nvidia one liner |
| 13:23.08 | badgers | somebody said nvidia one-liner was apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. ... |
| 13:23.25 | wols_ | chris_abyi: we don't support nvidia.com isntallers. ask nvidia about that |
| 13:23.32 | chris_abyi | ok. thanks |
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| 13:23.54 | tralala | chris_abyi, see above |
| 13:23.55 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29214/ |
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| 13:23.59 | streuner | badgers, why nvidia installers suck |
| 13:23.59 | badgers | streuner: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 13:24.03 | streuner | hm |
| 13:24.20 | azeem | user1__: looks perfect |
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| 13:24.45 | user1__ | how do i check if it's perfect or not |
| 13:25.00 | xyz123 | Does anyone know how long it will take before 2.6.22 hits the unstable branch? |
| 13:25.01 | user1__ | what if i have problem in the future |
| 13:25.02 | techbee | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:25.22 | wols_ | user1__: then you come back here and ask about them |
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| 13:25.30 | azeem | user1__: try "apt-get -f install" |
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| 13:25.40 | azeem | user1__: if doesn't want to remove/install packages, you're fine |
| 13:25.52 | streuner | badgers, nvidia-installer really sucks |
| 13:25.53 | badgers | We don't tell you not to use drivers from nvidia.com for fun. We have valid reasons for it, based on extensive experience. What it boils down to is this: your system will "work fine" for a while, then break HORRIBLY, if you don't install the driver the Debian way. Don't expect sympathy. Do it RIGHT the first time - /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 13:26.46 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29215/ |
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| 13:26.53 | user1__ | same nightmare when i install ssh |
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| 13:27.01 | tralala | %nvidia one-liner |
| 13:27.02 | badgers | from memory, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. ... |
| 13:27.11 | celtics_fan | how do i get midnight commander to open a mpg file with vlc |
| 13:27.12 | tralala | the same |
| 13:27.28 | azeem | user1__: euh |
| 13:27.32 | azeem | user1__: try apt-get -f install again |
| 13:27.35 | user1__ | ? |
| 13:27.36 | tralala | you edit the associations |
| 13:27.38 | user1__ | k |
| 13:28.25 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29217/ |
| 13:29.01 | azeem | user1__: that's a different problem |
| 13:29.22 | user1__ | oh is it? |
| 13:29.37 | azeem | never saw that |
| 13:29.41 | azeem | /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 45: read: read error: 0: Resource temporarily unavailable |
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| 13:29.58 | azeem | user1__: do you have a dpkg-reconfigure or aptitude something running on a different terminal? |
| 13:30.09 | user1__ | no |
| 13:30.22 | user1__ | what if i delete confmodule |
| 13:30.27 | azeem | don't |
| 13:30.30 | azeem | try to reboot, maybe |
| 13:30.33 | azeem | if you can |
| 13:30.46 | user1__ | like reboot in windows? |
| 13:30.59 | azeem | user1__: or, try the following "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=readline apt-get -f install" |
| 13:31.03 | tralala | do you have any output of "pgrep apt" and "pgrep dpkg"? |
| 13:31.48 | user1__ | why is it Resource temporarily unavailalbe |
| 13:32.03 | user1__ | /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 45: read: read error: 0: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 13:32.06 | azeem | user1__: I don't know |
| 13:32.16 | user1__ | what kind of resource is that |
| 13:32.17 | user1__ | i wonder |
| 13:32.31 | capiira | hmm should i do a apt-get dist-upgrade or is a upgrade enough for testing ? |
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| 13:32.40 | Kobaz | of empty() |
| 13:32.41 | Kobaz | er |
| 13:33.26 | azeem | capiira: do upgrade first, then dist-upgrade |
| 13:33.31 | azeem | capiira: use aptitude, if possible |
| 13:33.47 | capiira | oky thx |
| 13:33.47 | azeem | user1__: did you try with DEBIAN_FRONTEND? |
| 13:33.48 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29219/ |
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| 13:34.08 | capiira | why is aptitude rarely used? |
| 13:34.15 | azeem | capiira: eh? |
| 13:34.18 | user1__ | cuz apt-get type faster |
| 13:34.20 | azeem | you should ask that yourself |
| 13:34.32 | azeem | user1__: one line |
| 13:34.34 | capiira | most things i read on the net use apt-get |
| 13:34.41 | user1__ | what if i delete that file, and then reinstall debconf? |
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| 13:34.53 | azeem | user1__: please try with DEBIAN_FRONTEND first |
| 13:34.54 | Nurbs | capiira: aptitude is newer and higher-level in some respects |
| 13:35.14 | Nurbs | capiira: additionally it can't do a few things that apt-get can do |
| 13:35.41 | capiira | ah ok then let me read about them |
| 13:35.45 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29220/ |
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| 13:36.01 | zinkeldonk | Ok, maybe someone can shed some light on what apt is doing here. I have my own repo (maintained with reprepro) and apt-proxy where all my clients connect to retrieve their packages |
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| 13:36.19 | zinkeldonk | Now, when I look at the repo, the clamav-base package is there, |
| 13:36.50 | zinkeldonk | but on the client, after an apt-get update, apt-cache policy clamav-base shows no installable candidate.... |
| 13:36.53 | celtics_fan | yay I figgied it out |
| 13:37.00 | azeem | user1__: hrm, that didn't help |
| 13:37.16 | azeem | user1__: are you in a position to reboot, or is this a server that needs to stay up? |
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| 13:37.56 | zinkeldonk | Why should the client not show an installable candidate for clamav-base even though it should be in the repo. |
| 13:37.56 | capiira | hmmm so hard to decide gnome or kde :) |
| 13:38.00 | user1__ | i can reboot, but will that help? |
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| 13:38.56 | capiira | decide without gnome/kde religion |
| 13:39.07 | tralala | user1__, there's only one way to tell... |
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| 13:39.31 | user1__ | i am rebooting |
| 13:40.09 | azeem | user1__: it might |
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| 13:40.36 | celtics_fan | midnight commander ist goooood |
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| 13:40.50 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29221/ after reboot |
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| 13:41.59 | chris_abyi | hi. had been here just some minute ago and had tried it with your nvidia-oneliner - unfortunately..it doesn't seem to work: worldwindow@BlackIce:/etc/X11$ glxgears |
| 13:42.00 | chris_abyi | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 13:42.00 | chris_abyi | Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual |
| 13:42.13 | chris_abyi | anyone already knows this problem? |
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| 13:43.44 | azeem | user1__: huh, aptitude seems to prefer rlinetd over openbsd-inetd |
| 13:43.49 | tralala | chris_abyi, paste the output of cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://rafb.net/paste |
| 13:43.54 | azeem | user1__: (you ran aptitude -f install, not apt-get -f install as before) |
| 13:44.03 | azeem | user1__: now you're back at square one |
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| 13:44.50 | azeem | user1__: wait, did you purge debconf? |
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| 13:44.57 | azeem | user1__: no wonder it wouldn't work anymore |
| 13:44.58 | user1__ | no |
| 13:45.08 | azeem | user1__: aptitude seems to think you did |
| 13:45.17 | azeem | user1__: what does "dpkg -l debconf | tail -1" say? |
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| 13:46.29 | chris_alt | ok. here's my xorg.0.log file |
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| 13:47.00 | chris_alt | http://rafb.net/p/5xOSgS19.html |
| 13:47.00 | chris_alt | guess this is the most important thing: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) |
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| 13:47.08 | user1__ | pn debconf <none> (no description available) |
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| 13:47.13 | azeem | user1__: there you go |
| 13:47.15 | azeem | hrm |
| 13:47.18 | wols_ | chris_alt: dpkg -l |grp nvidia |
| 13:47.43 | user1__ | what should i do |
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| 13:47.43 | azeem | user1__: what about "dpkg -l cdebconf | tail -1" ? |
| 13:47.43 | wols_ | chris_alt: and what nvidia chip is it? |
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| 13:47.43 | azeem | mind the 'c' |
| 13:47.44 | chris_prob | sorry..got some connection probs |
| 13:47.49 | armin76 | anyone running debian on alpha? |
| 13:47.56 | user1__ | ii cdebconf 0.114 Debian Configuration Management System (C-implementation) |
| 13:47.56 | tralala | chris_abyi, no wonder - you haven't used the nvidia driver |
| 13:48.00 | azeem | armin76: do you have a specific issue? |
| 13:48.02 | azeem | user1__: hrm |
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| 13:48.16 | armin76 | azeem: qt-4.3.0 doesn't work |
| 13:48.16 | user1__ | do i have to reinstall the whole system? |
| 13:48.18 | chris_prob | tralala: I used the nvidia-glx one |
| 13:48.30 | tralala | chris_abyi, reconfigure xorg again and this time select "nvidia" driver, not n"nv" |
| 13:48.43 | chris_prob | okay |
| 13:48.51 | chris_prob | I'll try. thank you. |
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| 13:48.56 | tralala | chris_abyi, did you actually reconfigure xorg to start with? |
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| 13:49.08 | chris_prob | could you give me the one-liner again, probably? |
| 13:49.22 | chris_prob | btw, I didn't find them on the wikipage.. would be a good idea to show them there I guess |
| 13:49.31 | tralala | %tell chris_prob nvidia one-liner |
| 13:49.39 | chris_prob | thank you |
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| 13:49.46 | tralala | you need only the reconrfigure part this time |
| 13:49.48 | azeem | user1__: try "aptitude install openbsd-inetd" again |
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| 13:50.18 | chris_prob | tralala: sure. thanks |
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| 13:50.49 | chris_prob | !tell chris_prob nvidia one-liner |
| 13:50.59 | tralala | chris_prob, you're welcome |
| 13:51.02 | chris_prob | %tell chris_prob nvidia one-liner |
| 13:51.06 | chris_prob | ah now |
| 13:51.07 | chris_prob | fine |
| 13:51.17 | tralala | use /msg botname factoid |
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| 13:51.51 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29224/ |
| 13:52.10 | user1__ | it looks ok now |
| 13:52.26 | kova | Hi all, I 'm a linux novice. I hope some of you can help me out on a strange problem |
| 13:52.27 | azeem | user1__: now try aptitude -f install again, but don't tell it to go ahead, just pastebin if it wants to do stuff |
| 13:52.28 | khermans | how can i do this with apt-get? -> aptitude reinstall ~i~Asid |
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| 13:53.06 | kova | I have a debian installed with only the basics |
| 13:53.06 | tralala | you can't |
| 13:53.28 | khermans | tralala, why not? |
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| 13:53.30 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29225/ |
| 13:53.37 | azeem | khermans: because it is not implemented |
| 13:53.39 | kova | and after one night of running idle, the system starts acting wierd |
| 13:53.55 | azeem | user1__: well, ok, if you don't want ftpd |
| 13:54.06 | user1__ | can i itry install ssh package? |
| 13:54.12 | azeem | user1__: yeah |
| 13:54.13 | khermans | tralala, azeem, ok then there is an issue with debian then in the coreutils/debianutils cycle |
| 13:54.16 | tralala | kova, define "wierd" |
| 13:54.23 | azeem | khermans: why? |
| 13:54.30 | khermans | azeem, try it yourself |
| 13:54.38 | kova | wierd is like top not showing output |
| 13:54.42 | khermans | azeem, tralala --> "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle." |
| 13:54.43 | kova | same for mc |
| 13:55.00 | kova | but free and df do show output as normal |
| 13:55.00 | tralala | khermans, in sid? |
| 13:55.29 | kova | not sure how to diagnose system any further |
| 13:55.32 | tralala | kova, is this a server? |
| 13:55.32 | user1__ | fcuk this |
| 13:55.42 | user1__ | everytime when i try install ssh, its fcked up |
| 13:55.48 | JoelR | if i installed a kernel via aptitude, how can i know what options are enabled in that configuration? i mean, something like see the .config file? |
| 13:55.55 | khermans | tralala, http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/09/msg00135.html |
| 13:56.04 | khermans | tralala, i am seeing the same issue |
| 13:56.32 | kova | system is only running init 3 (I think) |
| 13:56.32 | khermans | JoelR, go to /boot/kernel*-config |
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| 13:57.11 | azeem | user1__: pastebin? |
| 13:57.14 | JoelR | khermans: thanks |
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| 13:57.43 | kova | nope ... 2 is default runlevel |
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| 13:57.52 | tralala | khermans, maybe an apt bug. Is this in sid? |
| 13:57.58 | khermans | tralala, yes |
| 13:58.02 | khermans | tralala, what is the fix? |
| 13:58.16 | tralala | I don't know |
| 13:58.34 | tralala | kova, good. Is it a swerver? |
| 13:58.48 | kova | tralala, yes it is |
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| 13:59.18 | tralala | it might have been compromised |
| 13:59.20 | kova | meant to run asterisk on it ... when I get it stable |
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| 14:00.53 | user1__ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29227/ |
| 14:01.04 | MilhousePunkRock | How can I have the "allmulti" flag for a specific network interface set permanently? |
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| 14:01.54 | tralala | kova, has it been acting like that since the install or did it start later on? |
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| 14:02.04 | user1__ | if i want to rebuild server, what files should i back up for mysql, exim4, and other shit |
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| 14:02.39 | kova | it starts acting strangly after a long time (mostly over night) |
| 14:02.46 | azeem | user1__: wait, one more try |
| 14:02.48 | kova | a reboot is the cure for now |
| 14:02.54 | azeem | user1__: run "aptitude install debfconf" |
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| 14:03.06 | user1__ | my boss will kill me if i don't fix it |
| 14:03.12 | azeem | user1__: if that is fine, try to install ssh again |
| 14:03.27 | kova | that is, the 'reboot' command doesn't work |
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| 14:03.39 | tralala | kova, the question is how long has it been running normally before this problem started to appear? |
| 14:03.43 | kova | it says it sent the TERM signal ... and then nothing |
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| 14:03.52 | azeem | !hi |
| 14:03.52 | dpkg | hello, azeem |
| 14:03.53 | azeem | eb |
| 14:03.54 | azeem | wb |
| 14:03.59 | esters | folks, how can i force to load modules on boot-up ? |
| 14:04.03 | karpa | hi |
| 14:04.11 | stew | esters: list them in /etc/moduls |
| 14:04.11 | kova | tralala, good question, hard to respond ... |
| 14:04.12 | azeem | esters: add them to /etc/modules |
| 14:04.19 | esters | thanks |
| 14:04.31 | tsrepadmin | how can i grep {$ ? |
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| 14:04.41 | kova | haven't found anything in logs that tells me when problem begins |
| 14:04.56 | tralala | kova, I suppose your server is running a buggy rootkit. Perhaps reinstalling will solve the problem. |
| 14:05.07 | kova | I have the machine running in this wierd state right now |
| 14:05.18 | user1__ | same problem, azeem |
| 14:05.23 | user1__ | should i back up /etc? |
| 14:05.46 | azeem | user1__: let's debug this properly |
| 14:05.54 | user1__ | can't afford the time |
| 14:05.58 | tralala | kova, chkrootkit might help |
| 14:06.12 | user1__ | i should not spent more than 10 hours doing this |
| 14:07.08 | azeem | user1__: add "set -v" as second line in /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst |
| 14:07.14 | kova | a tool to check for rootkits I presume ... I'lle give it a try right away |
| 14:07.16 | khermans | kova, best to use chkrootkit from a live cd |
| 14:07.18 | azeem | user1__: then run "dpkg --configure -a" and pastebin |
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| 14:08.17 | kova | okÃĐ, thanks tralala |
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| 14:08.45 | tralala | kova, you're welcome |
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| 14:08.51 | tralala | and good luck |
| 14:09.21 | AndroidData | hi. is it possible to retrieve a list of IPs connected to a specific port? I'm writing a small application which watches over a server and displays the IPs connected to it |
| 14:10.23 | wols_ | AndroidData: man netstat |
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| 14:11.04 | AndroidData | wols_: I tried, but I don't understand... |
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| 14:11.42 | AndroidData | lots of information in there, but nothing as simple as "typing netstat -filter ip -p <port>" displays all IPs connected to that port in a list separated by commas. |
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| 14:13.08 | sandman | Xen is basically a Microkernel, right? |
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| 14:13.34 | azeem | sandman: that is basically off-topic here |
| 14:13.41 | wols_ | AndroidData: netstat gives you a list. to bring it into the proper for is your responsibility. you're a programmer |
| 14:13.52 | sandman | Why is that? It's in the Stable package repository |
| 14:14.09 | AndroidData | no filtering whatsoever? aww. |
| 14:14.10 | sandman | Actually, just forget it. I'll continue in Xen |
| 14:14.10 | wols_ | sandman: it's ahypervisor |
| 14:14.13 | azeem | sandman: gcc is also in the repo, that doesn't mean random questions about it are on-topic here |
| 14:14.22 | sandman | ##Xen, even. |
| 14:14.24 | wols_ | AndroidData: grep can filter |
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| 14:16.55 | AndroidData | oh I see |
| 14:16.58 | mrbnet | how do I get apt to reinstall a package and force it to overwrite its files? |
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| 14:18.20 | azeem | mrbnet: what is the error? |
| 14:18.26 | azeem | put it in a pastebin |
| 14:18.29 | azeem | !pastebin |
| 14:18.30 | dpkg | Please don't paste more than 3 lines here in the channel, use instead: http://paste.lisp.org or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: pastebin pipe |
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| 14:19.55 | mrbnet | I erased the /usr/share/sendmail |
| 14:20.14 | azeem | mrbnet: apt-get install --reinstall <package> should work |
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| 14:21.07 | mrbnet | azeem: I tried that didn't take care of it |
| 14:21.21 | mrbnet | for some reason it won't reinstall the missing files |
| 14:22.00 | azeem | mrbnet: what does "dpkg -S /usr/share/sendmail" say? |
| 14:22.37 | mrbnet | azeem: sendmail-base, sendmail-cf: /usr/share/sendmail |
| 14:22.52 | mrbnet | azeem: those are the packs I am trying to reinstall |
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| 14:23.50 | mrbnet | azeem: got it, i think |
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| 14:24.58 | czarny | hello |
| 14:25.24 | czarny | I've got a question bout a bug You guys seem to have rid off (or I'm told so) |
| 14:25.47 | czarny | the new xfcer (4.2) had a 'feature', that made each kde icon in it's tray 1px in width |
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| 14:26.09 | czarny | my friend tells me it isn't so for him with debian, so I wanted to ask how did You guys fix that please |
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| 14:26.53 | beardy | By running a decent distribution. You can to, have a nice day. |
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| 14:28.02 | bonez31 | I open an application...it opens fine EXCEPT...it's pushed up and beyond the top of my screen...I have no way to pull it back down..how do I get to open in middle, or maximized, so I can control it size? |
| 14:28.04 | czarny | beardy: I'm not looking for a 'why my distro is better they Yours' fight -- I'm looking for the patch You've guys obviousely have applied to Your vesion |
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| 14:28.30 | wols_ | czarny: packages.debian.org. you can get sources there plus any patches |
| 14:28.40 | beardy | We've guys are not developers of the package you are asking about. |
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| 14:29.05 | czarny | wols_: I know, but I don't know what was packaged. Kde? Some kdelibs? xfce itself? qt ? |
| 14:29.14 | wols_ | czarny: we don't know either |
| 14:29.30 | czarny | wols_: well -- some developper needs to know -- the one that commited the change ? |
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| 14:29.56 | wols_ | czarny: and what makes you think that developer is here. again: the maintainers are viewable on pdo |
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| 14:30.12 | wols_ | czarny: now either ask #xfce or go to pdo. you are OT here |
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| 14:30.46 | reiser2 | how can i configure ttyS0 Baud Rate speed ? |
| 14:30.59 | xand | reiser2: for what use? |
| 14:31.18 | reiser2 | to get data from device |
| 14:31.20 | czarny | wols_: well..the #debian channel name for one thing makes me think so...usually developpers stick on the channel -- right ? |
| 14:31.29 | urv | reiser2: setserial |
| 14:31.34 | wols_ | czarny: no |
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| 14:31.43 | xand | reiser2: you set tat in whatever program you're using to access the port |
| 14:32.05 | reiser2 | i am doing from console |
| 14:32.07 | czarny | wols_: ok...then what is on topic here, if debian packages aren't ? |
| 14:32.11 | reiser2 | cat /dev/ttyS0 |
| 14:32.13 | stew | czarny: do you have a bug number from the debian bug tracking system for this bug? |
| 14:32.14 | reiser2 | is a test |
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| 14:32.20 | wols_ | czarny: support for debian |
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| 14:32.42 | reiser2 | just tell me how to change |
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| 14:32.56 | wols_ | reiser2: minicom can |
| 14:33.07 | reiser2 | ? |
| 14:33.13 | czarny | stew: I'm not sure there is one. I've filled the bug upstream to xfce and they've said that it was somewhere in kde or qt |
| 14:33.16 | MangosDebian | reiser2: stty |
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| 14:34.33 | MangosDebian | reiser2: although setserial as urv said is an option |
| 14:35.15 | reiser2 | where is that? |
| 14:35.32 | stew | czarny: well without more information it would be hard to help you, but in general, if you find the bug in debians bts: '/msg dpkg bts' you could find out what version fixed the bug, then you could download the diff for that version |
| 14:35.34 | MangosDebian | apt-cache show setserial |
| 14:35.43 | danilom | cannot start the system, yesterday installing some package, apt remove the locale, today when reboot, the system say: cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: no such file or directory... im in a maintennance console.. can i fix it?? |
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| 14:36.15 | czarny | stew: oh -- that's a help -- thx -- I'll try that |
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| 14:37.06 | RichiH | !find qcow-create |
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| 14:37.26 | reiser2 | thanks MangosDebian |
| 14:37.30 | reiser2 | i installed |
| 14:37.31 | dhe | hi, i want to work with a textfile in a bashscript. i need a line in bash which does output all lines without a # in front. Does someone know? |
| 14:37.33 | reiser2 | let me test |
| 14:37.34 | MangosDebian | reiser2: thank urv |
| 14:38.03 | wols_ | dhe: grep with a regex |
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| 14:38.54 | kova | tralala still here? |
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| 14:39.09 | kova | I've run chkrootkit ... system seems clean |
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| 14:39.30 | lvh | dhe: grep with a regex is indeed what you are looking for |
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| 14:43.44 | tsrepadmin | gave to much memory to my apache. now i cannot even make an ps or an ls |
| 14:43.52 | tsrepadmin | how can i find out the pid to kill? |
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| 14:44.21 | matahari | can anyone of you please post his device.map and menu.lst in /boot/grub (from etch)? |
| 14:44.41 | xand | tsrepadmin: killall? |
| 14:44.51 | zecrazytux | tsrepadmin: without ps or pidof bwaaaa |
| 14:45.20 | tsrepadmin | -bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory |
| 14:45.30 | tsrepadmin | thats the result of killall ;-) |
| 14:45.33 | zecrazytux | matahari: sorry i currently work at mandriva, on mandriva, and my debian is a sid |
| 14:45.51 | zecrazytux | tsrepadmin: no swap :o ? |
| 14:46.05 | matahari | i am trying to find the error in my grub configs... i ALWAYS get an error 15: File not found |
| 14:46.14 | matahari | i think i messed up with hda and sda |
| 14:46.21 | zecrazytux | tsrepadmin: plug out the computer =) |
| 14:46.34 | tsrepadmin | it is a virtual server |
| 14:46.38 | xand | "unplug" |
| 14:46.44 | tsrepadmin | xand cannot unplug |
| 14:46.48 | zecrazytux | xand: ok, ty :) |
| 14:46.54 | xand | reboot |
| 14:47.06 | tsrepadmin | reboot and pray? |
| 14:47.11 | tsrepadmin | there MUST e a possibility |
| 14:47.15 | zecrazytux | and mkswap ! |
| 14:48.19 | tsrepadmin | what is mkswap? |
| 14:48.36 | humbolto | how to permanently set JAVA_HOME env the "debian way"? |
| 14:49.02 | ragnul | humbolto: /etc/environment |
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| 14:50.23 | karmatronic | matahari: maybe the partition /boot is separate from / |
| 14:50.35 | matahari | karmatronic: yes, the partition is seperated |
| 14:50.58 | tsrepadmin | boah echt mal! |
| 14:50.58 | matahari | which partition do i have do set as root partition? the /boot or the / partition? |
| 14:51.04 | tsrepadmin | so langsam reichts mir mit dem scheiss! |
| 14:51.05 | zecrazytux | tsrepadmin: don't you know what swap is ? |
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| 14:51.11 | xand | "de |
| 14:51.16 | xand | !de |
| 14:51.16 | dpkg | hmm... de is deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net und irc.freenode.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net and freenode) |
| 14:51.17 | tsrepadmin | oh, wrong channel. sorry |
| 14:51.53 | karmatronic | matahari: if you are to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst , you have to mount /boot first.... |
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| 14:52.33 | matahari | so my entries need to be root (hd0,4) assuming that the /boot partition is sda5? |
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| 14:53.00 | karmatronic | matahari: i d say "yes" |
| 14:53.16 | MangosDebian | karmatronic: sounds like a guess :p |
| 14:53.39 | matahari | karmatronic: okay, i'll try |
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| 14:54.05 | karmatronic | matahari: no no i m wrong |
| 14:54.33 | karmatronic | MangosDebian: not a guess but i didnt pay attention to the question |
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| 14:55.09 | MangosDebian | karmatronic: mmm, so you don't know 100% if it applies? how is that not guessing again? :) |
| 14:55.28 | matahari | karmatronic: so it is the real root-partition it needs? |
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| 14:56.32 | KLbkScriptV1 | hi |
| 14:56.47 | karmatronic | matahari:actually i was just saying that if you want to edit menu.lst , you have to be sure /boot is mounted |
| 14:56.57 | karmatronic | matahari: in order to edit the good file |
| 14:57.01 | matahari | karmatronic: how can i ensure that? |
| 14:57.13 | karmatronic | matahari: mount /boot |
| 14:57.22 | matahari | in menu.lst? |
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| 14:57.28 | matahari | oh, i understand now |
| 14:57.50 | matahari | . /boot is mounted properly... |
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| 14:59.28 | karmatronic | matahari: regarding your second question |
| 14:59.52 | karmatronic | matahari: root (hdx,y) represents the root partition |
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| 15:00.09 | karmatronic | so , in your case it depends on the partition where you have / |
| 15:00.16 | matahari | okay |
| 15:00.20 | matahari | it is sda9 |
| 15:00.22 | karmatronic | matahari: ok , hope i m beeing clear |
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| 15:00.42 | matahari | karmatronic: another question: which partition has to be marked as bootable? |
| 15:00.42 | karmatronic | matahari: ok , so root (hd0,8) |
| 15:00.54 | matahari | . /boot? |
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| 15:03.08 | jpduyx | /enter #plone |
| 15:03.26 | stew | matahari: as far as grub is concerned, 'root' is not the / partition but whichever partition contains /boot |
| 15:04.00 | matahari | stew: THAT may be the reason why it says "File not found" |
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| 15:04.16 | stew | matahari: and you shouldn't edit those root entries by hand, you should be changing the "#groot=" line and running update-grub |
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| 15:04.36 | stew | matahari: (and the # at the beginning of that line is needed) |
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| 15:05.30 | matahari | which entry in the menu.lst is the one for the boot-root and whcih one is for the "real"-root? |
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| 15:06.08 | stew | matahari: #groot= should refer to /boot ; #kopt=...root=.. should refer to / |
| 15:06.30 | urv | matahari: if you use grub there is no need for the bootable flag being set i guess |
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| 15:06.46 | stew | correct |
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| 15:07.01 | lindenle | What display do i use when I am using the -L forwarding option with ssh |
| 15:07.38 | karmatronic | matahari: i realize i m kind of confused with those issues actually , sorry :) |
| 15:07.47 | karmatronic | matahari: what s your problem exactly ? |
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| 15:08.25 | karmatronic | lindenle: -L is for port forwarding , so it hasnt to do with X11 forwarding |
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| 15:09.45 | lindenle | karmatronic: Sorry I am ssh port forwarding through a firewall so localhost:2222 connects to the host behind the firelwall host:22 and I am getting the warning "X11 forwarding is disabled to avoid man-in-the-middle attacks" |
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| 15:10.45 | karmatronic | lindenle: in this case, you must check X11 Forwarding in servers side |
| 15:10.46 | matahari | stew: , urv: thanks for the explanations |
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| 15:11.14 | lindenle | karmatronic:ah, ok well I do nor control that so...maybe tough luck |
| 15:11.16 | matahari | karmatronic: my problem is that i installed debian on an USB-HDD and want to put the HDD in a computer and it should boot from this systen |
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| 15:11.43 | matahari | karmatronic: and grub doesn't want to |
| 15:12.46 | stew | matahari: then i'd recommended using uuids or filesystem labels to refer to the root partition in both /etc/fstab and in the #kopt= line |
| 15:14.07 | matahari | stew: how can i do that? |
| 15:14.20 | karmatronic | matahari: and you get "file not found " message |
| 15:14.37 | matahari | karmatronic: yes |
| 15:15.09 | karmatronic | matahari: and what did you put as root in grub? |
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| 15:16.18 | lindenle | karmatronic: actually all i had to do was delete the known_hosts entry...but that should not have been required since i have strict checking disabled. |
| 15:16.26 | stew | matahari: if you use ext3 you can label a partition with e2label, then refer to it with root=LABEL=foo instead of root=/dev/sda1 or whatever, if you use udev you can find the uuid by looking in /dev/disk/bu-uuid and and use UUID= instead of LABEL= |
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| 15:17.28 | matahari | stew: i use ext3. Which one of both methods is less problematic |
| 15:17.28 | qrck | why does my xserver not start on tty7 but on tty8 ? inittab uses just 6 of em |
| 15:17.56 | stew | matahari: doesn't matter unless you end up with two different filesystems with the same label on the same machine |
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| 15:19.16 | harpal | how can I clear my preselect packages in apt-get |
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| 15:21.32 | qrck | preselect with what ? |
| 15:21.34 | qrck | aptitude ? |
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| 15:23.39 | harpal | ya |
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| 15:27.05 | matahari | stew: okay - changed now to label=root |
| 15:27.19 | matahari | i only had to change this in the kopts, right? |
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| 15:32.24 | stew | matahari: yes, but then you have to run update-grub to have it propagete the change. you also should probably be changing fstab |
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| 15:32.34 | matahari | okay |
| 15:32.44 | Ben_ | how can I make sshd listen on multiple ports? |
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| 15:33.38 | pb_werkin | add another port line to sshd_config. |
| 15:33.55 | Ben_ | pb_werkin: ok, thanks |
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| 15:33.59 | pb_werkin | (then restart the service.) |
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| 15:44.04 | matahari | YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!! |
| 15:44.06 | matahari | it runs! |
| 15:44.18 | urv | *grats* |
| 15:44.20 | matahari | now i have to correct several errors - but it runs! |
| 15:44.23 | matahari | thanks urv |
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| 15:47.38 | SoulChild | which window manager is this: http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/45837-1.jpg ??? |
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| 15:49.35 | esters | SoulChild it's a GNOME mockup i presume |
| 15:50.02 | SoulChild | esters: what is a mockup, a programm ? |
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| 15:50.24 | esters | SoulChild just some redesign/cleanup of something existing |
| 15:50.41 | SoulChild | esters: ahh okay |
| 15:51.03 | pb_werkin | a mockup could also be a prototype of something that doesn't actually exist beyond somebody's notion of a concept. |
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| 15:51.38 | esters | yes it could |
| 15:52.34 | DawnLight | IP v6 over IP v4 tunneling driver takes a long time to load during boot. do i need that? |
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| 15:52.45 | pb_werkin | do you use IPv6? |
| 15:52.52 | DawnLight | i don't think so |
| 15:54.20 | SoulChild | what programm in the top left of this image is showing all this infos , i need the name, please? http://www.box-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/61764-1.jpg |
| 15:54.31 | TeraHertz | pb_werkin, try http://www.whatismyipv6.net/ |
| 15:54.32 | pb_werkin | shouldn't be necessary, but not sure offhand how that's loading to recommend how to disable it. if it's init, you can update-rc.d it. |
| 15:56.06 | serengeti | hello, I need to move my home server to a new, bigger drive. the partition that holds the data is the last one. My plan is as follows: 1. plug the old and new drive to another PC. 2. clone the drive using something along the lines of "dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdd". 3.boot the server off the new drive and grow the last partition to fill the remaining space. I've never done something like this... |
| 15:56.08 | serengeti | ...before, do you think it's a correct procedure? |
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| 15:56.26 | esters | SoulChild it's conky |
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| 15:56.29 | esters | !conky |
| 15:56.29 | dpkg | highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo, and also peewee herman's robot |
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| 15:56.40 | SoulChild | esters: thank you |
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| 15:58.13 | pb_werkin | serengeti: personally, i wouldn't use dd. what i've always done is setup and partition the target drive then copy everything accordingly with cp -a. |
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| 15:59.28 | Kobaz | dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb |
| 15:59.32 | Kobaz | is teh sexy |
| 15:59.54 | serengeti | pb_werkin, it seems like more work ;) i was wondering if i can do it at one go |
| 16:00.12 | serengeti | well i'm not deleting anything so i guess I might just try it |
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| 16:00.39 | serengeti | and in case there are issues just use cp -a |
| 16:00.39 | Kobaz | serengeti: rsync works well too |
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| 16:01.24 | serengeti | Kobaz, but then I still have to set up the partitions, bootloader etc right? |
| 16:01.25 | Kobaz | serengeti: if something stupid happens and your cp gets inturupted, you can't nicely resume where you left off |
| 16:01.29 | Kobaz | serengeti: yeah |
| 16:01.52 | Kobaz | serengeti: if my new box is exactly the same... set up partitions... rsync over.. set up grub, reboot |
| 16:01.56 | pb_werkin | it probably is, but i've never botched a system that way. (i dunno, i guess i'm a little paranoid about dd -- i think i tried that once and not sure what i did but i got an unmountable volume. i ended up punting and going the cp route.) |
| 16:02.16 | Kobaz | i've used dd without problems |
| 16:02.21 | Kobaz | it's great for fs rescue |
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| 16:02.35 | Kobaz | dd your drive to another and work on the copy to get your data |
| 16:02.39 | MangosDebian | <3 dd, <3 <3 rsync |
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| 16:03.25 | Kobaz | serengeti: rsync -rauvH |
| 16:03.50 | Kobaz | serengeti: and throw in a -P for some nifty progress stats |
| 16:03.57 | serengeti | ok thanks :) |
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| 16:06.06 | serengeti | I guess I'll try dd first because it's like, tempting to issue just _one_ command and have everything set up ;) and then finish the job with rsync, the partition with the data is encrypted with LUKS so I guess I can't just grow it |
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| 16:08.52 | Kobaz | well if you dd, you wont need rsync |
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| 16:10.26 | techbee | \j #ubuntu |
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| 16:11.27 | SoulChild | i want a os x like panel ,... is there a programm ? |
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| 16:12.23 | serengeti | you see the new drive is bigger and I want to grow the last partition to use remaining space. But it's encrypted so I think I'll have to create a new partition in its place and manually copy the files to it |
| 16:12.57 | serengeti | and that's where rsync will come in handy |
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| 16:15.23 | SoulChild | WHich Panel is that: http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/60887-1.png |
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| 16:19.01 | Securi | hi iv got a shell script |
| 16:19.04 | Securi | how do i execute it? |
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| 16:19.19 | izzyb | I'm finding lots of docs on how to create the raid, but not how to repair it |
| 16:19.41 | izzyb | Securi, is the permisions set to allow execution? |
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| 16:20.12 | izzyb | ls -l scriptname should give you the permision details |
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| 16:20.25 | izzyb | you'll need the x bit set |
| 16:20.29 | izzyb | then you just run it |
| 16:20.31 | Securi | no |
| 16:20.34 | izzyb | maybe with ./scriiptname |
| 16:20.35 | Securi | iv just saved it as a .txt |
| 16:20.49 | izzyb | you trust the script I take it? |
| 16:21.00 | izzyb | chmod +x scriptname |
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| 16:21.13 | izzyb | should set the execute flag |
| 16:21.18 | izzyb | then ./scriptname |
| 16:21.20 | izzyb | to run it |
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| 16:21.43 | Securi | soroush@securicore:~$ chmod +x test.txt |
| 16:21.43 | Securi | chmod: cannot access `test.txt': No such file or directory |
| 16:21.43 | Securi | soroush@securicore:~$ |
| 16:21.52 | Securi | the script is on the desktop :S |
| 16:22.16 | ricky | chmod ~/Desktop/test.txt |
| 16:22.19 | ricky | Then ~/Desktop/test.txt |
| 16:22.40 | ricky | As izzyb said, make sure you trust the script/what it does first |
| 16:22.41 | izzyb | Securi, as ricky said |
| 16:22.59 | izzyb | yeah, blindly running scripts from unknown sources is bad idea |
| 16:23.03 | izzyb | especially if your roott |
| 16:24.13 | xand | izzyb: look at the prompts. |
| 16:24.42 | izzyb | good catch |
| 16:24.50 | izzyb | so, not running as root then :) |
| 16:25.22 | Securi | securicore:/home/soroush# ~/Desktop/test.txt |
| 16:25.22 | Securi | bash: /root/Desktop/test.txt: No such file or directory |
| 16:25.22 | Securi | securicore:/home/soroush# /Desktop/test.txt |
| 16:25.22 | Securi | bash: /Desktop/test.txt: No such file or directory |
| 16:25.22 | Securi | securicore:/home/soroush# |
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| 16:25.41 | Securi | it clearly is on the desktop :S |
| 16:25.48 | xand | yes |
| 16:25.49 | SoulChild | which video player do u guys prefer (Gnome) ??? |
| 16:25.54 | xand | Securi: your desktop is not your home directory |
| 16:25.58 | xand | SoulChild: "you", and VLC |
| 16:26.07 | SoulChild | since vlc is not in repositories anymore i need a new one |
| 16:26.17 | xand | SoulChild: yes it is. |
| 16:26.31 | SoulChild | xand: no it isn't . not in testing |
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| 16:26.51 | Securi | :S |
| 16:26.52 | Securi | im confused |
| 16:26.53 | izzyb | Securi, try using tab completion to find it |
| 16:26.55 | xand | SoulChild: you didn't specify and are therefore using etch |
| 16:27.01 | Securi | tab completion? |
| 16:27.03 | Securi | im new... |
| 16:27.03 | izzyb | Securi, remember case matters in linux |
| 16:27.22 | SoulChild | xand: i am sorry,... so i am right that it s not on lenny, right ? |
| 16:27.25 | izzyb | if you hit tab, it will fill in for dir/file names |
| 16:27.34 | xand | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 16:27.34 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
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| 16:27.45 | izzyb | try ls -l ~/Desk<tab> |
| 16:28.02 | izzyb | you should get ls -l ~/Desktop in response |
| 16:28.06 | SoulChild | xand: i can't find "you" |
| 16:28.15 | xand | I'm right here |
| 16:28.41 | Securi | izzb me? |
| 16:28.50 | izzyb | Securi, yes |
| 16:29.06 | izzyb | <tab> is the tab key |
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| 16:29.09 | xand | SoulChild: so yes, it's not there atm |
| 16:29.17 | xand | SoulChild: what about mplayer? |
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| 16:29.38 | Securi | ahh ok im getting the hang of this |
| 16:29.45 | SoulChild | xand: never tried mplayer |
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| 16:29.55 | izzyb | Securi, :) |
| 16:30.41 | SoulChild | xand: does mplayer integrate in iceweasel ? # |
| 16:30.41 | Securi | how do i chmod again? |
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| 16:31.01 | izzyb | chmod +x path/to/filename |
| 16:31.02 | xand | SoulChild: erm |
| 16:31.13 | xand | SoulChild: no, it's a cli program really |
| 16:31.20 | izzyb | and you can use tab completion |
| 16:31.23 | xand | well, it might do... no idea |
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| 16:31.47 | SoulChild | xand i ll simply try ,.. sorry for bothering you |
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| 16:31.51 | Securi | ok donw |
| 16:31.54 | Securi | and how do i execute? |
| 16:32.01 | xand | ./blah |
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| 16:32.05 | Securi | im so sorry im new im writing all this down for future reference |
| 16:32.27 | izzyb | Securi, no problem, we all had to learn this at some point :) |
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| 16:32.30 | Securi | soroush@securicore:~$ chmod +x /home/soroush/Desktop/test.txt |
| 16:32.30 | Securi | soroush@securicore:~$ ls /home/soroush/Desktop/test.txt |
| 16:32.30 | Securi | /home/soroush/Desktop/test.txt |
| 16:32.30 | Securi | soroush@securicore:~$ /test.txt |
| 16:32.30 | Securi | bash: /test.txt: No such file or directory |
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| 16:32.39 | Securi | :S |
| 16:32.44 | Securi | what am i doing wrong? |
| 16:32.47 | izzyb | Securi, you can't past much here |
| 16:32.49 | eald | pasting here |
| 16:32.56 | izzyb | you're getting kicked for pasting too much |
| 16:33.07 | Securi | yeh ill use pastebin from now on :) |
| 16:33.15 | Securi | iv done everything youv said but its not working |
| 16:33.21 | Securi | soroush@securicore:~$ chmod +x /home/soroush/Desktop/test.txt |
| 16:33.21 | Securi | soroush@securicore:~$ ls /home/soroush/Desktop/test.txt |
| 16:33.21 | Securi | /home/soroush/Desktop/test.txt |
| 16:33.21 | Securi | soroush@securicore:~$ /test.txt |
| 16:33.21 | Securi | bash: /test.txt: No such file or directory |
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| 16:33.33 | Securi | ffs |
| 16:33.35 | Securi | copied and pasted the wrong thing! |
| 16:33.37 | Securi | http://unix.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/shellscript-l/shell-script-to-know-the-list-of-machines-on-network-and-there-details-of-load-average-os-and-memory-etc-1514738# |
| 16:33.40 | Securi | im trying to run that |
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| 16:33.46 | Securi | just playing around to see how shell scripts work etc |
| 16:33.53 | Securi | and i cant even damn excecute it :( |
| 16:33.54 | izzyb | Securi, you run scripts by providing the full path and filename |
| 16:33.58 | pb_werkin | "/test.txt" means execute test.txt in the root directory, probably not what you want. |
| 16:34.03 | izzyb | or a reletive path and filenamee |
| 16:34.14 | sep | Securi, do you have the hashban in the top of your script ? |
| 16:34.16 | izzyb | so ../Desktop/Scriptname should probably do it |
| 16:34.18 | sep | hashbang |
| 16:34.26 | Securi | Yeh |
| 16:34.45 | xembrx | !kaffe |
| 16:34.45 | dpkg | kaffe is, like, claimed to be a PersonalJava 1.1 compliant java environment. In fact, it is developed under a contract to Microsoft - http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,20225,00.html ,Ask me about 'kaffe flaw'. |
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| 16:34.53 | Securi | bash: ./Desktop/test.txt: cannot execute binary file |
| 16:34.59 | psyco-obiwan | Securi: find / -name test.txt | xargs bash |
| 16:35.01 | xembrx | !kaffe flaw |
| 16:35.01 | dpkg | Kaffe has not implemented java.security. It is a mistake or an intention to make Java insecure? Ask me about kaffe, then read http://www.kaffe.org/cgi-bin/kaffe/security?user=guest;addsignature=1 |
| 16:35.19 | xembrx | !jamvm |
| 16:35.34 | Securi | i need to be in root to run that command dont i :P |
| 16:35.36 | Securi | silly me! |
| 16:35.50 | izzyb | Securi, probably not |
| 16:35.50 | Obligatory | Hi all, my printer's defunct after upgrade again... there's some trick to upgrading the cups ppd that fixes this, and I can't find the right GUI option. Help! |
| 16:35.51 | pb_werkin | no, you need to specify the path correctly. |
| 16:35.53 | izzyb | unless it needs root |
| 16:35.56 | Securi | im getting permission denied |
| 16:35.58 | Securi | so im assuming i do :) |
| 16:35.59 | psyco-obiwan | Securi: the above error has nothin to do with bein root... |
| 16:36.06 | izzyb | if yyou run a script as root, make sure you trust it |
| 16:36.10 | pb_werkin | also, a shell script should start with a line like, "#!/bin/sh" or it won't run either. |
| 16:36.19 | Securi | find / -name test.txt | xargs bash |
| 16:36.22 | Securi | im taking about that |
| 16:36.33 | ricky | Securi: I run if as root if I were you- what does head -1 ~/Desktop/test.txt give? |
| 16:36.35 | pb_werkin | eek. overkill. |
| 16:36.51 | psyco-obiwan | Securi: then its not a shell script, but a binary file. |
| 16:37.06 | psyco-obiwan | do find / -name test.txt | xargs file |
| 16:37.10 | Securi | oh isee |
| 16:37.39 | ricky | psyco-obiwan: Isn't that a bit of overkill for ~/Desktop/test.txt? |
| 16:37.39 | Securi | ahhh ok im getting it now |
| 16:37.46 | Securi | is there any command list for shells etc? |
| 16:37.54 | Securi | also where can i find some usefull shell scripts to play around with? |
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| 16:38.09 | izzyb | Securi, try man bash |
| 16:38.21 | psyco-obiwan | ricky: typing a binary file will hose his term completely. |
| 16:38.32 | izzyb | or perhaps do a search on digg for cli |
| 16:38.50 | izzyb | There seem to have been a rash of top ten type lists of linux commands to know |
| 16:39.17 | psyco-obiwan | Securi: start writing your own...its easy...get a decent o'reilly book about shell scripts and have fun |
| 16:39.24 | izzyb | unless someone here has a url handy with such a list |
| 16:39.29 | Obligatory | Printers, CUPS, anybody? |
| 16:39.29 | dkr | psyco-obiwan: "typing"? as in the DOS "type" command? instead of unix "cat"? ;) |
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| 16:39.59 | Hooooi | hi guys |
| 16:39.59 | Securi | ok thanks |
| 16:40.00 | psyco-obiwan | dkr: yeah...catting sounds strange, but right...dos times catched me.. ;-) |
| 16:40.02 | ricky | psyco-obiwan: But you're running file on it, so you're not catting it. |
| 16:40.13 | xand | Obligatory: what about them/it? |
| 16:40.17 | psyco-obiwan | but you advised him to head the file... |
| 16:40.24 | psyco-obiwan | i was referring to that |
| 16:40.25 | Hooooi | one small question....how do i find out what mail server is installed on my machine? |
| 16:40.36 | xand | Hooooi: several ways |
| 16:40.41 | Obligatory | xand, "my printer's defunct after upgrade again... there's some trick to upgrading the cups ppd that fixes this, and I can't find the right GUI option. " |
| 16:40.52 | xand | telnet localhost 25 and see what it says |
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| 16:41.11 | xand | umm |
| 16:41.22 | dkr | netstat -lp to see what proc is listening on port 25 |
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| 16:41.37 | dkr | look through /etc/init.d for mail programs. :) |
| 16:41.42 | izzyb | Securi, http://www.digg.com/search?s=linux+cli&submit=Search§ion=news&type=both&area=all&sort=score |
| 16:41.49 | Obligatory | xand, telnet who? |
| 16:41.52 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 16:42.04 | Hooooi | thanks guys :) will doo |
| 16:42.06 | Obligatory | xand, ahem, who should telent rather... |
| 16:42.11 | xand | Hooooi |
| 16:42.25 | dkr | Obligatory: Hooooi |
| 16:42.32 | Mazingaro | mi adventure with fedora core installed on my pc is end. I'm installing debian 4.0 over it right now! :) |
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| 16:42.46 | ricky | Hi1 |
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| 16:42.50 | ricky | **Hi! |
| 16:43.53 | Obligatory | xand, so, CUPS? |
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| 16:44.16 | Hooooi | it is Exim 4.5 |
| 16:44.32 | xand | Obligatory: sorry dont know |
| 16:44.38 | Hooooi | i need to configure it for a "catch all" thing, so it forwards all email to one email |
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| 16:45.02 | bzed | I have no idea how to do that, but I know you don;t want it, definitely. |
| 16:45.18 | Obligatory | xand, thank anyway. Odd I figured this problem would be very common... for folks running unstable anyway. |
| 16:45.20 | Hooooi | i need to install another server for pop3, right? |
| 16:45.29 | xand | yes, but imap is better |
| 16:45.42 | danilom | http://pastebin.ca/610733 please help i cant install locales |
| 16:45.48 | xand | Obligatory: if you use unstable you're meant to know how to fix it yourself :p |
| 16:45.51 | dkr | I used to do that, (so I can easiyl use custom addresses signing up for things, but I recently stopped doing it and spam dropped quite a bit, (and I just have to add a new alias before signing up for soemthing) |
| 16:45.51 | danilom | i cants start |
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| 16:46.31 | dkr | Hooooi: yes, exim just handles the incoming outgoing mail, you need a separate daemon like dovecot for pop |
| 16:46.31 | Obligatory | xand, well I do but I've either forgotten, or the old method no longer works due to something moving around, or uninstalling when I wasn't looking... |
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| 16:46.40 | bzed | danilom: you can, it'll remove base-config, which is depricated anyway., but it looks more like you have stable in your sources list and not yet updated to etch |
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| 16:47.23 | bzed | danilom: if that's the case you probably want to edit your sources.list and stick with sarge, or read the release notes and upgrade as destribed |
| 16:47.27 | bzed | *described |
| 16:48.14 | danilom | SquOnk bzed i have set stable in sources.list |
| 16:48.27 | Hooooi | dkr....thanks...but...how can i check if i have a pop3 server installed? u have a clue? |
| 16:48.51 | danilom | bzed so you think i have to change to sarge |
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| 16:49.01 | dkr | Hooooi: you could look for something listening on port 110 the way you looked at 2 for the mta |
| 16:49.09 | dkr | er, 25 |
| 16:49.33 | Hooooi | well there is something on 110 |
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| 16:49.53 | Hooooi | but it has no obvious fingerprint...it say "+ok, hello there" |
| 16:49.56 | izzyb | Hooooi, then I'd say you have a pop server running |
| 16:50.05 | Hooooi | +OK Hello there. |
| 16:50.14 | izzyb | yeah |
| 16:50.18 | izzyb | that sounds about right |
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| 16:50.43 | Hooooi | lol...bbut i am trying to configure it, and dunno what it is...since i have a preconfigured confixxx server with debian |
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| 16:53.23 | bzed | danilom: you either have to change your sources.list to point to sarge, and run apt-get update after that, or you ahve to read the release notes ono how to upgrade to etch |
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| 16:55.00 | eth01 | best bet, would be todo just install from CD or whatever |
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| 17:00.07 | daquino | does deb not use /etc/modules.conf any more ? |
| 17:00.30 | azeem | the kernel doesn't |
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| 17:01.54 | hmr | anyone can gimme a good sources.list |
| 17:02.17 | Skyrail | Say I have multiple PCs connected across the country via a VPN of some sort but each PC runs from a dynamic PC as they are all home run right, could I have a fixed IP server that stores all the IPs of the computers, which when they change IP they update the fixed IP server with the new IP which then distributes this new IP to all the other PCs so they all stay connected. Please ask if I've confused you :B |
| 17:02.43 | valdyn | !dyndns |
| 17:02.44 | dpkg | dyndns provides hostnames for dynamic/static ips for free: http://www.dyndns.org/, or apt-get install ddclient |
| 17:02.53 | valdyn | Skyrail: ^^ |
| 17:03.03 | SoulChild | xand thank you mplayer works great ,... |
| 17:03.16 | xand | good |
| 17:03.31 | Skyrail | valdyn: thanks I'll look into it :) |
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| 17:05.48 | hmr | ho2 |
| 17:06.02 | hmr | how i install a xsession in my debian? i forget to select in installation |
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| 17:06.13 | sebastian_ | hmr, |
| 17:06.34 | sebastian_ | apt-get install "xorg gnome/kde/xfce4 |
| 17:06.45 | sebastian_ | or what do you mean |
| 17:07.03 | hmr | sebastian_: my sources.list isnt working too |
| 17:07.08 | hmr | i've just installed |
| 17:07.19 | sebastian_ | apt-get update? |
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| 17:07.55 | hmr | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 17:08.03 | hmr | is that right? |
| 17:08.06 | sebastian_ | Yeah |
| 17:08.09 | hmr | give me some errors |
| 17:08.12 | sebastian_ | and deb-src |
| 17:08.17 | sebastian_ | What errors? |
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| 17:10.13 | hmr | sebastian_: failed to fetch... could't stat source package list |
| 17:10.14 | hmr | etc |
| 17:10.15 | hmr | a lot |
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| 17:10.43 | sebastian_ | Do you have internet connection? |
| 17:10.53 | hmr | sure |
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| 17:11.00 | sebastian_ | hm.. |
| 17:11.00 | hmr | i've get some packages |
| 17:11.03 | sebastian_ | Wierd |
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| 17:13.04 | cchance | I have googled and googled maby some one else can find it. How can i get no-ip to actuly work i had it set to update in intervals one 1 minute but its been 5 minutes now and i still can not connect to clubmckinley.no-ip.org |
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| 17:13.42 | sebastian_ | Im a bit too nooby to answer that :/ |
| 17:14.09 | cchance | (ue) |
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| 17:15.27 | wols_ | cchance: how is this a debian question? |
| 17:15.42 | cchance | because its a debian package |
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| 17:15.49 | wols_ | no-ip is? |
| 17:15.54 | cchance | yes |
| 17:16.00 | wols_ | !info no-ip |
| 17:16.09 | wols_ | %info no-ip |
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| 17:16.38 | badgers | no-ip: (A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service), section net, is optional. Version: 2.1.3-3 (sid), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 132 kB |
| 17:17.01 | SoulChild | how unstable is sid ? |
| 17:17.13 | SoulChild | does it crash often ? |
| 17:17.21 | chicalinux | nop |
| 17:17.39 | chicalinux | very stable in fact |
| 17:17.40 | abrotman | dpkg died again ? |
| 17:17.41 | wols_ | SoulChild: if you have to ask, you're not read for sid |
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| 17:17.56 | wols_ | abrotman: I prefer to call it being "on strike" |
| 17:18.11 | abrotman | did anyone ask stew for aptitude ? |
| 17:18.13 | wols_ | probably some commie agitator made him do it |
| 17:18.30 | SoulChild | abrotman: who is stew ? |
| 17:18.37 | SoulChild | !stew |
| 17:18.41 | abrotman | SoulChild: does it matter? |
| 17:18.43 | stew | SoulChild: very unstable, hundreds of packages change daily in unstable |
| 17:18.44 | wols_ | SoulChild: the big bad man in the corner |
| 17:18.57 | SoulChild | wols_: ahh okay |
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| 17:19.20 | aptitude | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of stew) |
| 17:19.50 | abrotman | aptitude: yay! |
| 17:19.50 | aptitude | yay! |
| 17:20.11 | wols_ | abrotman: badgers worked quite fine :) |
| 17:20.21 | abrotman | badgers is out of sync with the dpkg database |
| 17:20.21 | badgers | abrotman: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 17:20.29 | abrotman | badgers: go do something useful |
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| 17:20.42 | cchance | how do i transfer files over ssh? |
| 17:20.46 | abrotman | scp |
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| 17:20.54 | pb_werkin | or sftp. |
| 17:21.30 | cchance | i mean from me to it im on windows with no ftp server |
| 17:21.50 | mrsno | cchance winscp |
| 17:22.01 | wols_ | cchance: via sftp as abrotman and pb_werkin said. use filezilla |
| 17:22.05 | abrotman | filezilla works for the CLI-challenged |
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| 17:22.29 | wols_ | pickcoder: over ssh? |
| 17:22.39 | pickcoder | wols_: no |
| 17:22.43 | abrotman | keep up back there |
| 17:22.49 | pickcoder | sorry.. I'm working |
| 17:22.58 | pickcoder | I'll try to be more lazy |
| 17:23.07 | wols_ | then work and don't waste time on #debian. bad enough me and abrotman do |
| 17:23.10 | cchance | ok, maby this will be easyier, whats a good ftp server i can implemint on this since il haave to do it sometime |
| 17:23.15 | abrotman | wols_: i'm working! |
| 17:23.19 | pickcoder | heh |
| 17:23.20 | wols_ | cchance: none |
| 17:23.20 | pickcoder | sure |
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| 17:23.27 | wols_ | abrotman: as I said: you wast time |
| 17:23.28 | stew | cchance: vsftpd |
| 17:23.28 | wols_ | +e |
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| 17:23.40 | abrotman | wols_: amavis decided it would be fun to deliver the spam, and retain it in the spam directory! |
| 17:23.53 | wols_ | abrotman: evrey mail is sacred |
| 17:23.57 | abrotman | bullshit |
| 17:24.09 | wols_ | blasphemy! |
| 17:24.12 | pickcoder | I need to find some old memory reference data |
| 17:24.17 | stew | how else would i know that a family member sent me an ecard from hong kong |
| 17:24.22 | wols_ | ..if "Bull" is a god. jupiter I guess |
| 17:24.55 | pickcoder | abrotman: did you enable SA? |
| 17:25.01 | abrotman | yes |
| 17:25.01 | cchance | God* |
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| 17:25.38 | MrKeuner | hi, anybody using gnump3d? Are there gtk audio player applications that support gnump3d? I would like to take browser out of the way |
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| 17:26.28 | pickcoder | abrotman: you may need to tweak the SA settings for delivery/drop |
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| 17:26.48 | Supaplex | dpkg: ping |
| 17:26.53 | abrotman | pickcoder: shouldn't amavis be doing all that ? |
| 17:27.00 | pickcoder | abrotman: it is in amavis |
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| 17:27.07 | pickcoder | conf.d |
| 17:27.08 | abrotman | pickcoder: yeah .. it's set to D_PASS |
| 17:27.13 | pickcoder | 20-debian_defaults |
| 17:27.15 | pickcoder | oh |
| 17:27.45 | abrotman | and it's still going both places |
| 17:27.49 | pickcoder | I discard everything except $final_bad_header_destiny |
| 17:28.26 | nofxx | I wanna resolv names using bind. but a got firewall and gateway on diff boxes.. on witch on should I install bind |
| 17:28.48 | nofxx | \and witch port IÄšl need to forward so both my lan an external can use... so lost.. so lost |
| 17:29.05 | cchance | well since there is no Man entry for vsftpd, where are the user files keps? |
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| 17:29.39 | abrotman | pickcoder: i don't want to discard spam at that level |
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| 17:31.26 | abrotman | "1; # insure a defined return" |
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| 17:32.01 | abrotman | can we ban him just for that?! |
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| 17:32.18 | Muisje | sure |
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| 17:35.49 | maxamillion | why on earth don't i have a man page for gcc? ... i have build-essential, manpages, and manpages-dev installed .... but still no man page for gcc |
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| 17:36.46 | stew | maxamillion: its in the gcc-doc which is in non-free : /msg dpkg non-free |
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| 17:38.08 | pickcoder | abrotman: then when do you want to discard it? |
| 17:38.21 | pickcoder | amavis is operating as a content filter to the MTA |
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| 17:38.42 | abrotman | pickcoder: MUA level |
| 17:38.56 | pickcoder | abrotman: so why use SA? |
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| 17:39.51 | abrotman | pickcoder: possible better detection .. i'm trying to set the header .. TB can discard based on the header |
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| 17:40.14 | maxamillion | stew: uhmm... how is gcc non-free? |
| 17:40.18 | pickcoder | abrotman: disable SA then |
| 17:40.26 | pickcoder | and it won't scan it |
| 17:40.40 | pickcoder | I don't understand the purpose of amavis, though unless you just want clam av |
| 17:40.43 | themill | maxamillion: it's docs are under the GNU FDL which isn't free in debian |
| 17:40.58 | maxamillion | themill: ah, ok .. thanks |
| 17:41.00 | stew | maxamillion: it has invariant sections, meaning there are parts of it you are not allowed to modify, and therefore it is not free software as defined by the dfsg |
| 17:41.29 | stew | themill: gfdl without invariant sections is free in debian, the gcc docs have invariant sections though |
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| 17:41.49 | themill | maxamillion: actually stew's answer is more correct technically. |
| 17:42.00 | abrotman | pickcoder: clamav and SA .. but i'd like to get SA to just set the header and pass it on |
| 17:42.02 | themill | stew: yep. you're right |
| 17:42.18 | abrotman | and i thought D_PASS would do that |
| 17:42.20 | maxamillion | :) |
| 17:42.44 | themill | stew: it is a bit strange having to explain that to people all the time though, isn't it.... |
| 17:42.50 | pickcoder | abrotman: set the $sa_kill_level_deflt |
| 17:42.56 | pickcoder | set it to like 50 |
| 17:43.16 | themill | pickcoder: I regularly get spam that scores 50 in SA ;) |
| 17:43.16 | stew | themill: yes. and what is extra fun is trying to explain to someone from gnu/fsf that documentation is software |
| 17:43.52 | themill | stew: not going there..... |
| 17:43.52 | abrotman | pickcoder: that still doesn't really resolve the issue |
| 17:43.55 | abrotman | themill: you wouldn't get over 50 if you weren't subscirbed to all the pr0n lists :) |
| 17:44.11 | dpkg | no-ip: (A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service), section net, is optional. Version: 2.1.3-3 (sid), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 132 kB |
| 17:44.30 | dpkg | pong |
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| 17:44.33 | Zap-W | do i need CONFIG_QUOTA quota support in the kernel if i want to use quota from nfs ? |
| 17:44.36 | pickcoder | abrotman: you se $final_spam_destiny = D_PASS |
| 17:44.40 | pickcoder | ~set |
| 17:44.41 | apt | it has been said that set is xbmodder is a world record setting 14 year old awesomely great guy |
| 17:44.44 | themill | abrotman, pickcoder: at one stage I thought about writing a rule that kept a tally of the best SA scores and put the email aside for posterity... |
| 17:44.52 | abrotman | i did .. and amavis still dumps it in the amavis directory |
| 17:44.57 | Supaplex | dpkg is the lagg0red :P |
| 17:44.59 | pickcoder | did you restart amavis? |
| 17:45.02 | abrotman | yep |
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| 17:45.17 | Azar | is being abducted |
| 17:45.26 | pickcoder | abrotman: are you sure SA is the reason? |
| 17:45.39 | TeraHertz | have someone worked with cdrdao |
| 17:45.49 | abrotman | pickcoder: i'd guess amavis is doing it based on the results returned from SA |
| 17:46.01 | abrotman | pickcoder: amavis gzips it and dumps it in a directoryt |
| 17:46.14 | TeraHertz | I want to write 797mb iso on 870mb cd, but k3b recognize it as 702mb and stops |
| 17:46.26 | abrotman | pickcoder: it still delivers it to me .. but dumps it in that directory .. |
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| 17:47.21 | Securi | abrotman can you recommend any decent stat tools for debian that blend in into your desktop wallpaper which are opaque? |
| 17:47.27 | azeem | trace |
| 17:47.45 | abrotman | Securi: gnome? kde? |
| 17:47.48 | dkr | Securi: you mean transparent? |
| 17:48.03 | Securi | yes dkr |
| 17:48.03 | Securi | http://www.dancemammal.com/images/onscreen.png |
| 17:48.06 | cahoot | TeraHertz, wodim/cdrecord doesn't do better? |
| 17:48.07 | Securi | something like that |
| 17:48.08 | Securi | gnome |
| 17:48.09 | Securi | etch |
| 17:48.10 | dkr | Securi: gkrellm has some transparent themes |
| 17:48.21 | abrotman | !gdesklets |
| 17:48.26 | abrotman | grr .. darn bot |
| 17:48.30 | abrotman | aptitude: gdesklets |
| 17:48.34 | abrotman | or there is no factoid! :) |
| 17:48.38 | Securi | i couldnt find any themes for gkrellm which are transparnte |
| 17:48.46 | Securi | gdesklets i get that? |
| 17:48.54 | abrotman | Securi: you can look around .. there are quite a few on the website |
| 17:48.55 | dkr | Securi: there is a separate package which has gobs of gkrellm themes |
| 17:48.55 | TeraHertz | I'll check it now.. |
| 17:49.04 | dkr | by default it has like 5 |
| 17:49.15 | Securi | whats aptitude? |
| 17:49.20 | Securi | dkr whats the package called? |
| 17:49.21 | Azar | Securi: I use gkrellm and it does have transparency |
| 17:49.42 | Securi | screenshot to the themes if you have any please |
| 17:50.06 | pickcoder | abrotman: are they spam-<message>.gz files? |
| 17:50.47 | dkr | Securi: hrm, maybe I just downloaded the tarball with all the themes http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/ has them all, and screens |
| 17:51.05 | abrotman | pickcoder: yep |
| 17:51.08 | dkr | easier to just download and cycle through them to find ones you like |
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| 17:51.55 | Securi | thanks |
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| 17:52.13 | Securi | Abrtoman: gdesktlets only has 1 system info script which is Wireless Monitor |
| 17:52.17 | Securi | can you recommend anything else? |
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| 17:52.58 | dkr | a transparent terminal running top? ;) |
| 17:53.31 | TeraHertz | wow... gnome-baker is just fine, he detected the right size of the cd and uses that wodim.., 10x ;) |
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| 17:53.39 | abrotman | pickcoder: i mean .. i guess i could set $QUARANTINEDIRECTORY to /dev/null .. but then everything it detects would get deleted |
| 17:53.44 | Securi | dkr |
| 17:53.49 | Securi | just running on the desktip |
| 17:53.53 | Securi | behind everything else |
| 17:53.55 | abrotman | Securi: it used to have a lotm ore |
| 17:54.08 | pickcoder | abrotman: $spam_quarantine_method |
| 17:54.08 | pickcoder | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.09 | abrotman | gkrellm might be better suited |
| 17:54.21 | Securi | so when i open web browset its still on the desktop |
| 17:54.22 | pickcoder | gah.. set that to null in your 20-debian_defaults |
| 17:54.30 | Securi | abrotman anything else? |
| 17:54.41 | pickcoder | or "undef" |
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| 17:55.51 | abrotman | pickcoder: hrm .. i guess that'll have to do .. not much else in the docs seems relevant |
| 17:56.22 | pickcoder | you can set the kill level to an extremely high # or disable quarantine with that param set to undef |
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| 17:56.55 | pickcoder | abrotman: http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/amavisd-new-docs.html |
| 17:57.24 | abrotman | yeah .. i'm reading that |
| 17:58.19 | abrotman | Securi: http://gdesklets.zencomputer.ca/ .. but they're old and not guaranteed to wrok |
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| 17:58.33 | Bogus8 | how do I run a python script through init as a different user? |
| 17:58.38 | Securi | thanks |
| 17:58.41 | Bogus8 | I've tried various things but it never starts it |
| 17:58.46 | Securi | how do i install a gtkrellm theme? |
| 17:59.00 | abrotman | Bogus8: su -c ? |
| 17:59.05 | Bogus8 | it works fine under root but that causes issues on other levels that I want to avoid |
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| 17:59.19 | Bogus8 | abrotman: that goes in the init.d script? |
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| 17:59.37 | Bogus8 | abrotman: I'm evoking the daemon with start-stop-daemon |
| 17:59.52 | abrotman | pickcoder: thanks .. i think that'll do it .. |
| 18:00.31 | pickcoder | Bogus8: man start-stop-daemon |
| 18:00.35 | Securi | iv got a see through theme |
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| 18:00.37 | Securi | iv right clicked |
| 18:00.38 | Securi | gone to themes |
| 18:00.39 | pickcoder | look at the -c option |
| 18:00.44 | abrotman | Bogus8: i'm not sure if start-stop-daemon can launch as another user or not |
| 18:00.44 | Securi | but there is no uption to upload theme :S |
| 18:00.52 | Bogus8 | pickcoder: oh, I definitely have done that... but it's not starting when I try those things --chuid or --group |
| 18:01.08 | Bogus8 | pickcoder: ok, i'll check out -c |
| 18:01.35 | Bogus8 | pickcoder: ah, same as --chuid... yeah I've tried that |
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| 18:01.37 | pickcoder | Bogus8: it should.. is the script owned by that user? |
| 18:01.46 | pickcoder | a user can't run a script owned by root |
| 18:01.47 | Bogus8 | pickcoder: it doesn't run then :( |
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| 18:02.00 | xand | pickcoder: of course not. |
| 18:02.03 | Bogus8 | pickcoder: yes, I'll double check.. but I think it's <user>:users |
| 18:02.05 | TrueDD | Salut ā tous |
| 18:02.11 | xand | !fr |
| 18:02.11 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.debian.org or irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:02.11 | TrueDD | hi all |
| 18:02.12 | abrotman | pickcoder: a user can .. if it's setup correctly |
| 18:02.20 | abrotman | xand: he does that every day! |
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| 18:02.34 | xand | abrotman: you'd have thought he'd find the right channel by now then |
| 18:02.56 | Bogus8 | pickcoder: hmm, all the .py files are owned my me but the .pyc files are owned by root (I don't know what pyc is) |
| 18:03.13 | abrotman | xand: no .. he greets us every day in french .. then talks the rest of the time in english |
| 18:03.29 | xand | ok then... |
| 18:03.34 | wireless | I have just flashed my linksys 54gl with dd-wrt v23 sp2, did someone here try? |
| 18:03.35 | abrotman | Bogus8: "compiled" roughly |
| 18:03.43 | xand | !anyone |
| 18:03.43 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you with or is a guru/expert of <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 18:04.02 | Bogus8 | wireless: I've done that, why? |
| 18:04.32 | wireless | Bogus8: I try loging with roor/admin and I don't get access |
| 18:04.43 | Bogus8 | restart everything |
| 18:04.46 | wireless | Bogus8: I try loging with root/admin and I don't get access (sorry typo) |
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| 18:04.57 | wireless | Bogus8: what does everything mean? |
| 18:05.09 | Bogus8 | exactly what it means |
| 18:05.17 | wireless | Bogus8: laptop too? |
| 18:05.20 | Bogus8 | yep |
| 18:05.46 | wireless | Bogus8: oh come on! why do I have to restart my linux box if I flashed the router?!?! |
| 18:05.51 | Bogus8 | i've only done it in windows but as silly as it seams I've read that and it works |
| 18:06.11 | stew | wireless: no, there is no point in rebooting your laptop |
| 18:06.20 | Bogus8 | trust me, I was in complete defiance of it! |
| 18:06.32 | Bogus8 | eventually I just said fuck it let me try... bam it worked :( |
| 18:06.59 | wireless | Bogus8: but listen, if I telnet 192.168.1.1 I get the dd-wrt prompt, if I put root/admin I don't get in, but dd-wrt is on the other side already! |
| 18:07.00 | Dennyss | OI |
| 18:07.01 | xand | that's certainly not a reason to reboot |
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| 18:07.08 | Bogus8 | wireless: i know |
| 18:07.14 | xand | wireless: perhaps restart your browser |
| 18:07.18 | xand | Dennyss: YOU, NO |
| 18:07.31 | wireless | xand: oh well, perhaps some acche is in the middle? |
| 18:07.39 | stew | he's using telnet, not a browser, there is no way that rebooting the machine running the telnet client is going to do anything useful |
| 18:07.46 | jamonation | wireless: why aren't use using ssh with dd-wrt? |
| 18:07.59 | Bogus8 | abrotman: sorry, distracted... so do I need to chown those .pyc files also? |
| 18:08.07 | wireless | ssh is not supported with dd-wrt |
| 18:08.13 | wols_ | why ask #debian and not ask #openwrt ? |
| 18:08.14 | Bogus8 | wireless: yes it is |
| 18:08.17 | xand | ask the dd-wrt channel or whatever |
| 18:08.20 | jamonation | ssh is 100% supported |
| 18:08.26 | jamonation | i use it everyday on 3 ap's |
| 18:08.34 | wireless | xand: oh, is there any d-wrt channel? |
| 18:08.35 | Bogus8 | <- same |
| 18:08.45 | wireless | I couldn't find a dd-wrt channel |
| 18:08.46 | Bogus8 | wireless: yeah, but it's kind of lame |
| 18:08.47 | Dennyss | TC DEONDE? |
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| 18:08.57 | Securi | xand |
| 18:08.58 | xand | wols_ said #openwrt... |
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| 18:09.02 | Securi | you think you can help? |
| 18:09.03 | xand | yes? |
| 18:09.16 | wireless | xand: openwrt is a different firmware |
| 18:09.27 | xand | well I don't know. |
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| 18:09.38 | stew | !tell casper239 about root |
| 18:09.41 | xand | but unless it's running debian, this isn't the right channel |
| 18:09.48 | wols_ | wireless: no matter what channel, #debian is OT for your problem |
| 18:09.51 | wireless | Bogus8: could it be that root/admin aren't the words for user/passwd? |
| 18:09.53 | k31th | how do i query a name server? a specific name server |
| 18:09.58 | Securi | im trying to install a GKRellm theme |
| 18:10.03 | Bogus8 | wireless: why not try to restart everything... like I said, I stood in defiance for a while before trying and it worked |
| 18:10.03 | Securi | please point me in the right direction |
| 18:10.04 | xand | k31th: using what? nslookup? |
| 18:10.07 | wols_ | wireless, Bogus8: take it elsewhere please |
| 18:10.07 | chops | k31th: dig hosttoquery @dnsserver |
| 18:10.08 | wireless | wols_: what do you mean OT? |
| 18:10.14 | k31th | chops: thanks. |
| 18:10.15 | wols_ | wireless: off topic |
| 18:10.17 | xand | Securi: never used it i'm afraid |
| 18:10.34 | stew | Bogus8: there is no way that rebooting his machine is going to make the thing on the other side of the telnet connection act differently |
| 18:10.39 | wireless | wols_: oh sorry will try Bogus8 solution bye |
| 18:10.40 | Securi | ok |
| 18:10.45 | stew | wireless: don't bother |
| 18:11.06 | Bogus8 | stew: it worked with me getting in via www (even trying different browsers) granted I was on windows at the time |
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| 18:11.14 | wireless | stew: ok, I will be here then thanks |
| 18:11.52 | Bogus8 | keep up the good fight then... I'll just keep logging into my dd-wrt AP ;) |
| 18:11.53 | stew | Bogus8: that has nothing to do with what he is trying to do |
| 18:12.01 | wireless | Bogus8: I am not confortable that resetting my laptop is gonna arrange anything, I prefer to try resetting the router |
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| 18:12.18 | Bogus8 | stew: I understand that telnet is not www but it sounds a lot like what I read about and experienced |
| 18:12.27 | wols_ | Bogus8: browser have caches. ever heard of a telnte app with a cache? |
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| 18:12.48 | Bogus8 | wols_: I understand... like I said.. I tried diff browsers... it didn't make sense and I refused to do it for a while |
| 18:12.58 | wols_ | Bogus8: you don't understand. that's the point |
| 18:13.06 | wireless | Bogus8: I understand tou had to restart windows, but not linux |
| 18:13.09 | wols_ | and with browsers it can make sense |
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| 18:13.26 | Bogus8 | wols_: even if I never used that browser to log in before? |
| 18:13.31 | wireless | Bogus8: I ask again, could it be that user is not root and pass is not admin? |
| 18:13.51 | Bogus8 | wireless: what did the instructions say? |
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| 18:14.06 | Bogus8 | they didn't change it and not tell anyone |
| 18:14.08 | wireless | Bogus8: now if I put 192.168.1.1 I get a blank screen and telnet doesn't let me in |
| 18:14.14 | Azar | Securi: apt-cache search gkrellm << gonna give you a list of available plugins ... then aptitude install <package> |
| 18:14.22 | wols_ | wireless: you away swith your dd-wrt problem please |
| 18:14.34 | wols_ | s/you/go/ |
| 18:14.51 | hark | there's #dd-wrt :) |
| 18:15.01 | Securi | thanks |
| 18:15.01 | Securi | Azar |
| 18:15.08 | Securi | i have downloaded a see through theme |
| 18:15.11 | Securi | how do i install it? |
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| 18:15.26 | Azar | Securi: you do not "download" you use aptitude install |
| 18:15.32 | wireless | oh hark, thanks!! |
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| 18:16.03 | asphyxia | hi, im having some trouble installing esound on this machine. when using apt-get, it tries to start emifreq-applet, which will not start, as i dont have any cpufreq support in the kernel... |
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| 18:16.22 | asphyxia | (its my friend's laptop, which im trying to fix) |
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| 18:16.45 | asphyxia | is there any way of disabling the use of emifreq-applet? |
| 18:16.59 | chops | asphyxia: Is it a Debian stock kernel? |
| 18:17.16 | chops | asphyxia: If everything you're using is Debian-supplied, that sounds like a bug in something or other |
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| 18:18.03 | Securi | Azar thank you! |
| 18:18.20 | asphyxia | chops: no, its not a stock kernel |
| 18:18.28 | chops | asphyxia: I think I've discovered your problem, then :-) |
| 18:18.38 | asphyxia | it is somehow broke - non of the modules in .../cpu/cpufreq will load... |
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| 18:19.00 | asphyxia | chops: well, yeah... im a gentoo guy, so im fairly experienced in general :P |
| 18:19.04 | asphyxia | however, i |
| 18:19.16 | Azar | Securi: right click on gkrellm and look at configuration... |
| 18:19.18 | chops | asphyxia: There's very rarely a good reason to use a non-Debian kernel on a Debian system nowadays, and it does cause problems (like what you're experiencing now) |
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| 18:19.36 | asphyxia | however, i zless'ed the /proc/config.gz and it seems fine |
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| 18:20.13 | Securi | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "clear.tar.gz" |
| 18:20.45 | abrotman | asphyxia: is emifreq-applet installed ? |
| 18:20.45 | asphyxia | chops: yeah. i couldnt find any problems in the kernel config. i was just looking for a way to avoid rebooting... |
| 18:20.56 | abrotman | (admittedly .. esound is a pile of poo) |
| 18:21.18 | asphyxia | true, but i still think its better than kde's sound server. |
| 18:21.43 | abrotman | that's not saying much :) |
| 18:21.43 | asphyxia | however, ill try and reboot now... |
| 18:21.51 | asphyxia | abrotman: i know. |
| 18:21.53 | asphyxia | later. |
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| 18:22.07 | Securi | soroush@securicore:~$ aptitude install clear.tar.gz |
| 18:22.10 | Securi | is that right? |
| 18:22.29 | chops | Securi: He's saying that instead of downloading packages and then using a separate tool to install them, Debian is generally designed to install software using aptitude to install Debian-supplied software. |
| 18:22.37 | abrotman | Securi: not even clonse |
| 18:22.38 | Securi | ahhh ok |
| 18:22.39 | abrotman | close |
| 18:22.42 | Securi | damn so i type the URL |
| 18:22.46 | Securi | instead of the directory? |
| 18:22.49 | Securi | *file name |
| 18:23.03 | chops | Securi: Read a new user guide rather than asking us to explain it all to you here and now. There's a lot to it and it would take a while. |
| 18:23.10 | eald | I guess that the manual of apt has answer to that |
| 18:23.36 | techie | man, this is driving me nuts |
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| 18:24.33 | chops | Securi: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/ch-iraus.en.html might be a half-decent place to start |
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| 18:24.49 | abrotman | SoulChild: go fix bugs |
| 18:24.59 | techie | recovering a machine using a live cd is no fun |
| 18:25.01 | SoulChild | abrotman: not experienced enough |
| 18:25.11 | Securi | ok |
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| 18:25.52 | xembrx | jeez, even telnet can be a hacker tool |
| 18:26.49 | SoulChild | xembrx: telnet? how |
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| 18:28.08 | roby | Is there a common command available to wrap stdin stream and spit to stdout ? |
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| 18:28.33 | pickcoder | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.42 | Supaplex | fold (1) - wrap each input line to fit in specified width |
| 18:28.50 | alexIdoia | is there a way in /etc/hosts to set a domain so that it can be at two different ip address ? |
| 18:29.02 | stew | roby: there is also fmt |
| 18:29.07 | abrotman | maybe tee ? |
| 18:29.10 | alexIdoia | I am thinking about this because I have a laptop that I use wired or via wifi |
| 18:29.20 | alexIdoia | and it is not the same ip address |
| 18:29.22 | chops | SoulChild: Start installing things from experimental until something breaks. Then, figure out what went wrong, fix your system, and file a bug. |
| 18:29.23 | abrotman | though i'm not sure i get what he's after |
| 18:29.35 | abrotman | chops: uhm .. don't advocate that |
| 18:29.38 | chops | SoulChild: :-) |
| 18:29.49 | dimsuz | hi! after recent update of my lenny I get my system clock set 3 hours ahead. Wait! I'm living in +3 timezone. Seems like they're UTC. where to change them to local time? |
| 18:30.01 | chops | abrotman: He said he was bored. That'll keep him busy, certainly. |
| 18:30.04 | dimsuz | in /etc/something? |
| 18:30.49 | abrotman | chops: and could potentially screw up his machine badly |
| 18:30.55 | roby | stew: thanks |
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| 18:31.05 | chops | abrotman: Very badly |
| 18:31.27 | hark | dimsuz: /etc/default/rcS |
| 18:31.32 | Supaplex | !experimental |
| 18:31.33 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. for an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference, or http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
| 18:31.38 | chops | SoulChild: I guess abrotman's right -- if it wasn't clear from my "fix your system," don't ever install from experimental on a system you care very much about |
| 18:32.27 | stew | SoulChild: look under "work needed" here: http://qa.debian.org/ |
| 18:32.28 | dimsuz | hark: thanks! I just remembered that I switched to initng... Maybe this is faulty :) |
| 18:32.54 | abrotman | SoulChild: you could write man pages! |
| 18:33.37 | dimsuz | hark: hmm... I have UTC=no there. Why the clock shift then? Hmm... :) |
| 18:33.48 | carlos_ | How can I make mailscanner use the clamav daemon instead of the clamscan? |
| 18:34.11 | carlos_ | (which is painfull slow btw) |
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| 18:34.57 | alexIdoia | is there a way to see which machines are connected to the LAN ? |
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| 18:35.23 | dimsuz | alexIdoia: ping -b. but i guess there are better ways ;) |
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| 18:36.13 | junix|work | how do i setup my own little deb stable repository ? |
| 18:36.45 | thirst | at login prompt my box shows lenny/sid. I remember once switching to sid to install compiz. Is there anyway to completely switch back to all lenny packages using some smart apt command |
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| 18:36.53 | eddie__ | anyone around here that might have an idea on how to a setup a local mirror |
| 18:36.56 | alexIdoia | ping -b what ? dimsuz ? |
| 18:37.27 | chops | thirst: Not easily |
| 18:37.51 | chops | thirst: You can switch your sources back to testing, wait for testing to catch up to where sid is right now (which might take a few months or so), and then you'll have a testing system again |
| 18:37.55 | dimsuz | alexIdoia: see "man ping" - i don't remember exactly :). IIRC you should give it a network address e.g. ping -b 192.55.66.0 |
| 18:38.02 | Supaplex | !tell thirst -about downgrade |
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| 18:38.24 | MONO` | hey everyone |
| 18:38.27 | alexIdoia | dimsuz: yes if I want to know which machine are on the LAN, I can't specify any adress |
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| 18:39.08 | dimsuz | alexIdoia: but you can give a [sub]network address |
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| 18:39.17 | alexIdoia | ah |
| 18:39.40 | dimsuz | alexIdoia: -b stands for "broadcast" |
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| 18:40.08 | abrotman | junix|work: to do what? |
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| 18:40.18 | thirst | chops: i did change all apt sources to lenny around 6 months ago.. but it is still lenny/sid |
| 18:40.21 | thirst | Is there any easy way to get names of all apps which i have installed, that have ver info > lenny. Then I could just uninstall and reinstall.. |
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| 18:40.33 | dimsuz | alexIdoia: but actually it's not very useful - it'll just ping all machines it finds on a given network. So you'll see just whole lot of pings going and going :). No accurate summary :) |
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| 18:41.20 | chops | thirst: "lenny/sid" merely indicates that you're running either lenny or sid (or a combination) |
| 18:41.27 | dimsuz | alexIdoia: but you may find addresses if you'll look with attention :). As i said this is not most convenient way to solve your problem :) |
| 18:41.36 | chops | thirst: The versions that are printed on login change randomly as time passes if you're running lenny or sid |
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| 18:42.05 | abrotman | thirst: it wasn't six months ago |
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| 18:42.09 | Ovi_1 | can anyone tell me why search results in nautilus are always empty? |
| 18:42.19 | Ovi_1 | I can never find anything |
| 18:42.25 | dimsuz | let me ask once again. Guys, what can cause time shifts on reboots? Even if I do "rdate -s some.ntp.server.dom; rm /etc/adjtime"... |
| 18:42.33 | sbk | Any links2 users? How do I point it to an https (as opposed to an http) proxy? |
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| 18:42.55 | thirst | chops: yeah.. i know i am running a combination which is the problem.. but i wud luv to switch back to full lenny if possible.. |
| 18:42.56 | Ovi_1 | or at least how do I search for a file in bash |
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| 18:43.47 | dimsuz | Ovi_1: find ./ -name "filename" |
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| 18:43.58 | chops | thirst: What package has a version different from the one you'd like it to have? |
| 18:44.00 | thirst | abrotman: well i vaguely remember installing compiz sometime after i bought my new graphics card which around 6 months back.. i could be wrong though |
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| 18:44.05 | junix|work | abrotman: to have my own install repository |
| 18:44.06 | Ovi_1 | and does it check rec all dirs? |
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| 18:44.15 | abrotman | junix|work: you want to mirror the whole thing .. or just have a cache ? |
| 18:44.19 | Ovi_1 | thk dimsuz |
| 18:44.25 | wireless | hi, noone in the dd-wrt channel is replying, I come back here |
| 18:44.27 | chops | thirst: As I said, simply the fact that it prints "lenny/sid" on login doesn't mean you're running a combination. Why do you believe you're running a combination? |
| 18:44.29 | Bogus8 | pickcoder: still having problems launching that script as a user |
| 18:44.35 | junix|work | i don't know...how much space does it take up? |
| 18:44.46 | dimsuz | Ovi_1: don't know about nautilus though (not a gnome user) |
| 18:44.47 | abrotman | !dstats etch |
| 18:44.48 | Bogus8 | wireless: still defiant eh? |
| 18:44.54 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on etch... 18601 packages, 1728 maintainers, 41697 MB installed size, 13733 MB compressed size. |
| 18:44.55 | abrotman | junix|work: depends how much you mirror |
| 18:45.11 | thirst | chops: my system freezes up once in a while.. after a full apt-get upgrade yesterday.. |
| 18:45.15 | wireless | Bogus8: now I see that it is recommended to flash a mini file, but I didn't flash a mini one, could it be a reason? |
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| 18:45.19 | junix|work | abrotman: probably just etch |
| 18:45.32 | Bogus8 | wireless: umm, I don't think you need to in the latest versions |
| 18:45.33 | thirst | chops: i have a hunch that something that came in from sid could be causing the trouble.. |
| 18:45.33 | abrotman | junix|work: apparently about 13MB .. not to mention source packages |
| 18:45.34 | Bogus8 | I haven't |
| 18:45.34 | oMish_ | which http query returns me to which version and codename 'stable' is currently mapped ? |
| 18:45.36 | chops | thirst: That happens on testing sometimes as well. |
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| 18:45.37 | abrotman | junix|work: erm .. 13GB |
| 18:45.54 | wireless | Bogus8: after all I am getting the dd-wrt prompt |
| 18:45.56 | thirst | chops: i agree... |
| 18:46.05 | junix|work | abrotman: uh wha? |
| 18:46.14 | abrotman | junix|work: what what? |
| 18:46.22 | Bogus8 | wireless: you can be defiant all you want... but you better be patient also |
| 18:46.22 | wireless | Bogus8: will try resetting the router for LONG time |
| 18:46.24 | junix|work | abrotman: does that include the installer? |
| 18:46.26 | abrotman | sorry .. make that 14GB |
| 18:46.29 | abrotman | junix|work: doubtful |
| 18:46.43 | wireless | Bogus8: I am very patient :) |
| 18:46.44 | junix|work | OMG |
| 18:47.02 | Bogus8 | wireless: really? you came back in here crying about no one in dd-wrt pretty quickly ;) |
| 18:47.09 | junix|work | abrotman: what if i wanted to have my own nfs mirror here at work, to do network installs.. |
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| 18:47.19 | wireless | Bogus8: quickly? haha half an hour :) |
| 18:47.33 | Bogus8 | wireless: on IRC volunteer help channels... YES, quickly |
| 18:47.35 | abrotman | junix|work: apt-proxy might be better for you |
| 18:47.40 | BrutusUnix | looking for away to install xgl |
| 18:47.40 | junix|work | k |
| 18:47.57 | BrutusUnix | anyone know a good tutorial for nvidia card? |
| 18:48.02 | junix|work | abrotman: but not apt-mirror |
| 18:48.10 | abrotman | !apt-proxy |
| 18:48.10 | dpkg | [apt-proxy] a cool proxy for lots of Debian machines on a network together. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/237 |
| 18:48.12 | tarzeau | BrutusUnix: like installing it? |
| 18:48.14 | wireless | Bogus8: you know, chat is like air, your words go and they are lost, half an hour means noone is going to reply, I have been using this net for time |
| 18:48.23 | BrutusUnix | yes just how to install |
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| 18:48.34 | Bogus8 | wireless: you are completely wrong in a channel with no activity |
| 18:48.34 | tarzeau | BrutusUnix: there's an entry about it at wiki.debian.org |
| 18:48.38 | subx | what type of kernel would run best on a old AMD Barton 3000+ 32-bit chip? |
| 18:48.39 | BrutusUnix | ok thanks |
| 18:48.45 | tarzeau | BrutusUnix: try that, if it doesn't work feel free to get back here |
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| 18:48.58 | BrutusUnix | ok |
| 18:49.00 | wireless | Bogus8: you could be right, but when they reply, I wount be here so ... |
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| 18:49.21 | shenron | how do I get java working on debian |
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| 18:49.22 | Bogus8 | wireless: so standin silent defiance ;) |
| 18:49.23 | IsaqueFD | hi :) |
| 18:49.24 | shenron | for web surfing |
| 18:49.29 | tarzeau | shenron: using the java-package |
| 18:49.35 | chops | !tell shenron about java |
| 18:49.36 | wireless | Bogus8: I don't have my laptop connected all say :) |
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| 18:50.01 | shenron | ya what is it called |
| 18:50.05 | shenron | can I get it with aptitude? |
| 18:50.25 | chops | You could ask dpkg about "install java," like the message said |
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| 18:50.57 | aasd | how i can fix this problem? |
| 18:50.58 | aasd | Starting ftp server: proftpd - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'debian' error: Name or service not known |
| 18:51.21 | wireless | Bogus8: in any case, I am surprised I cannot log in using root/admin pair, did it happen to you? |
| 18:51.36 | chops | aasd: Fix your hostname (make sure there's an entry in /etc/hosts for the hostname configured in /etc/hostname) |
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| 18:52.33 | Azar | bah the kid was right... he has to download the tar theme on his home directory.. for gkrellm clear plugin |
| 18:53.30 | aasd | mmm chops |
| 18:53.30 | aasd | debian:/tmp/vhcs-2.4.8/etc/vhcs2/proftpd# cat /etc/hostname |
| 18:53.30 | aasd | palencia.mine.nu |
| 18:53.45 | eddie__ | anyone around here that might have an idea on how to a setup a local repository mirror for net install of debian? |
| 18:53.45 | tarzeau | aasd: that's probably not what you want |
| 18:54.02 | eddie__ | i been reading the docs on it they are not work too well.. |
| 18:54.03 | tarzeau | aasd: that's a fully qualified domain name (fqdn) |
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| 18:54.18 | tarzeau | aasd: try man hostname |
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| 18:55.27 | chops | aasd: Also, check the hostname command itself -- if you're in a strange configuration (e.g. virtual or chrooted servers) or you've done reconfiguration recently, the hostname may not match what's in /etc/hostsname |
| 18:55.34 | chops | */etc/hostname |
| 18:56.06 | alexIdoia | hi I can't get around the problem, on my LAN I can't get from on computer to another, but both of them can reach a third, three debian OS, when typing ssh blabla, it reports 'can't connect' straight away as if it was blocked, how can I solve this problem ? |
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| 18:57.03 | Bogus8 | wireless: I already told you that it did and I told you what I did to correct it... you didn't like that |
| 18:57.14 | chops | alexIdoia: Is the third machine capable of "get"ing to either of the first two machines? What exactly do you mean by "get to"? |
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| 18:57.52 | Bogus8 | any other ideas why I can't get my init.d script to launch a python script as a regular user --chuid doesn't seem to be working :( |
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| 18:57.59 | _Lucretia_ | how well does 64-bit work with debian? i.e. with 32-bit emulation also? I would need to be able to install flash/w32codecs/etc |
| 18:58.18 | alexIdoia | chops: yes, say I have machines A B and C; A can connect to B and C; B and C can connect to A but can't connect to each other. |
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| 19:00.12 | aasd | weel chops not proftpd is starting good |
| 19:00.16 | chops | alexIdoia: What do you mean by "connect to"? ssh? |
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| 19:00.55 | chops | _Lucretia_: Debian's way of handling that is currently a 32-bit chroot. Google can tell you more. |
| 19:01.22 | alexIdoia | chops: yes sorry ssh |
| 19:02.05 | chops | alexIdoia: What are the IP addresses of all the machines? If you could pastebin all of their networking configurations (/etc/network/interfaces or equivalent) it might help... |
| 19:03.03 | abrotman | !tell ooosanteooo about root |
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| 19:03.17 | alexIdoia | chops: nothing fancy : |
| 19:03.21 | alexIdoia | auto eth0 |
| 19:03.21 | alexIdoia | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 19:03.24 | aasd | mm chops can you try ftp to palencia.mine.nu please? |
| 19:03.54 | alexIdoia | the IPs are 192.168.0.2 for A 192.168.0.3 for B and 192.168.0.4 for C |
| 19:03.54 | chops | aasd: "Connection closed by remote host." |
| 19:04.04 | Bogus8 | what is the group utmp used for? |
| 19:04.13 | aasd | i don't know wht proftp close a coneections |
| 19:04.23 | aasd | in the log i see your coneection |
| 19:04.29 | abrotman | Bogus8: man -k utmp might be a good start |
| 19:04.35 | Bogus8 | abrotman: k thanks |
| 19:05.01 | Bogus8 | abrotman: that just says "...login records" |
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| 19:05.31 | versuchsanstalt | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.12 | Bogus8 | versuchsanstalt: well, I'm ignorant I guess... I'll read man utmp for a while |
| 19:06.25 | abrotman | Bogus8: read the darn man pages |
| 19:06.37 | Bogus8 | abrotman: ^^ |
| 19:07.01 | versuchsanstalt | :) |
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| 19:07.02 | abrotman | Bogus8: if you don't know what something is on your system .. `man -k <word>` might help you learn a little about it |
| 19:07.16 | abrotman | assuming a man page is installed that references it |
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| 19:07.32 | Bogus8 | abrotman: hmm, I'll keep that in mind... but the -k was very minimal this time |
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| 19:07.48 | abrotman | Bogus8: but there's enough to give you at least a general idea |
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| 19:08.05 | Bogus8 | abrotman: not for me, but ok |
| 19:08.15 | abrotman | Bogus8: it will certainly get you started |
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| 19:09.44 | jurjan | Hello, I'm trying to install SSL on apache but I'm missing the file apache2-ssl-certificate |
| 19:09.51 | jurjan | Does anyone have a suggestion? |
| 19:10.07 | abrotman | make-ssl-cert |
| 19:10.13 | jurjan | thanks |
| 19:10.43 | abrotman | nah .. that doesn't look like a spammer |
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| 19:11.28 | jurjan | make-ssl-cert generate-default-snakeoil |
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| 19:11.36 | jurjan | where does it leave the ssl certificate? |
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| 19:13.09 | oddjob | hello |
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| 19:13.47 | oddjob | i have overclocked my e6600 cpu (2.4 ghz) to 2.61 ghz according to my bios and windows anyways, but /proc/cpuinfo still says cpu MHz 2400.00... |
| 19:13.49 | oddjob | why is taht? |
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| 19:18.19 | pickcoder | oddjob: look at dmidecode |
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| 19:18.31 | oddjob | what |
| 19:18.35 | oddjob | where? how?:) |
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| 19:18.49 | pickcoder | dmidecode is a command line tool |
| 19:18.51 | pickcoder | run it |
| 19:18.56 | pickcoder | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.04 | pickcoder | dmidecode | less |
| 19:19.15 | oddjob | ok |
| 19:19.35 | abrotman | where's psrinfo when you need it! |
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| 19:21.05 | oddjob | hm |
| 19:21.09 | oddjob | pickcoder, Current Speed: 2610 MHz |
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| 19:21.15 | oddjob | but why not /proc/cpuinfo then? |
| 19:21.18 | oddjob | which one is right? |
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| 19:25.40 | [GABRI] | i have this error |
| 19:25.42 | blizzo1 | Is there a repository with an fglrx package or do I have to get ati drivers from ati and build them manually for etch? |
| 19:25.44 | [GABRI] | mod_sql_mysql.c:598: error: missing terminating " character |
| 19:25.45 | [GABRI] | make[1]: *** [mod_sql_mysql.o] Error 1 |
| 19:25.48 | pickcoder | oddjob: dmidecode will show what BIOS reports |
| 19:25.54 | [GABRI] | i installed libmysql++-dev |
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| 19:26.00 | pickcoder | cpuinfo should as well, so maybe that's a bug |
| 19:26.10 | [GABRI] | any solution? |
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| 19:27.34 | pickcoder | [GABRI]: everything you need is in the error message. There is a missing " on line 598 of mod_sql_mysql.c |
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| 19:29.24 | [GABRI] | i need type code in .h? |
| 19:29.25 | kupesoft | Where does $PATH get set? |
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| 19:29.31 | kupesoft | for my shell |
| 19:29.36 | kupesoft | (bash) |
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| 19:33.45 | pickcoder | kupesoft: look in ~/.bashrc and/or ~/.bash_profile |
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| 19:34.22 | norbert_ | is there /any/ graphical tool for /any/ linux distribution that will decrypt .rar and .kgb files? |
| 19:34.40 | kupesoft | Where does BASH come up with "/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games" as a default, though? |
| 19:35.02 | stew | kupesoft: /etc/profile |
| 19:35.18 | kupesoft | stew: Perfect, thanks, |
| 19:35.27 | rmwaite | Hi, all. I'm running a dns server on my firewall and when running nslookup from a remote windows computer it says "DNS request timed out" but I've opened 53 in the firewall (shorewall is what i'm using). Is there something I'm missing here? |
| 19:35.36 | pickcoder | norbert_: xarchive |
| 19:36.08 | pickcoder | norbert_: you'll need the respective archive tools for each format |
| 19:36.17 | norbert_ | pickcoder: thanks a bunch |
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| 19:40.44 | bonez31 | what is the file called, which contains streaming audio/music data? is there a name for this? |
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| 19:47.41 | chops | rmwaite: wireshark on one or both machines may help you debug |
| 19:47.45 | alexIdoia | I still have a problem to connect to my box. |
| 19:47.54 | alexIdoia | I can ssh in one way but not the other |
| 19:48.20 | alexIdoia | that is weird, maybe it has something to do with my netgear router, but I don't understand why it does not work |
| 19:48.36 | alexIdoia | connection refused |
| 19:49.01 | robin_sz | I see some packages (eg GnuPG) are beginning to release under gpl3, whats the current Debian position on GPL3? |
| 19:49.05 | stoned | ahh boy |
| 19:49.13 | stoned | I gotta do the entire website for this business |
| 19:49.15 | stoned | sweet |
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| 19:51.42 | robin_sz | is GPL3 now considered 'free' enough for Debian? |
| 19:51.54 | robin_sz | or is is it still persona non grata? |
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| 19:54.27 | alexIdoia | ok! do ssh logs all its ouput somewhere I can't find it under /var/log |
| 19:54.37 | simonrvn | auth.log |
| 19:54.41 | alexIdoia | ok |
| 19:55.11 | rmwaite | stupid dns. :\ |
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| 19:55.47 | robin_sz | rmwaite, yeah, poxy new fangled inventions, it'll never catch on |
| 19:56.02 | alexIdoia | ssh to another box on my lan returns connection refused and nothing is output in log, |
| 19:56.07 | simonrvn | good hosts file, and you're set |
| 19:56.10 | versuchsanstalt | apt-get -f install tries to remove mozilla-locale-de-at on my system, but update-mozilla-chrome is missing. what can i do? |
| 19:56.10 | alexIdoia | I am crazy can somehelp ? |
| 19:56.11 | chops | robin_sz: WINS is where it's at for true enterprise computing |
| 19:56.15 | sobersabre | hi. how can I know if a SCSI drive formatted as XFS by SGI IRIX can be mounted by linux XFS driver ? |
| 19:56.19 | xand | alexIdoia: a shrink? |
| 19:56.36 | alexIdoia | yeah well only on tuesdays |
| 19:56.38 | xand | sobersabre: try it? should work |
| 19:56.49 | xand | sobersabre: it's the same xfs |
| 19:56.56 | sobersabre | xand: i am afraid to corrupt the data, |
| 19:56.57 | chops | alexIdoia: Check the arp caches to find out if it's an IP address conflict? Use wireshark? |
| 19:56.57 | robin_sz | simonrvn, sure, but eventually, you get more machines and eventuallym, it becomes easier to have a DNS than to keep copying hosts files about |
| 19:57.00 | simonrvn | alexIdoia: connection refused: either the sshd isn't running, or you've been blacklisted, see /etc/hosts.deny |
| 19:57.02 | sobersabre | and I am not sure it's the same XFS. |
| 19:57.12 | sobersabre | xand: are you an XFS coder ? |
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| 19:57.22 | simonrvn | robin_sz: i was referring to the fact that that's what people did before dns ;) |
| 19:57.34 | xand | sobersabre: no, but it should be the same |
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| 19:57.45 | xerophyte | does anybody know what is the different between sshc and ssh .. ans which package has the sshc ? |
| 19:57.46 | abrotman | sobersabre: ask #xfs |
| 19:57.54 | xand | sobersabre: you could back it up using dd or something if you wanted |
| 19:57.57 | sobersabre | abrotman: thanks! |
| 19:58.05 | robin_sz | simonrvn, theres quite a lot of discussion about what the number of machines is at which DNS is a good plan ... some people claim its 2 machines, the rest think its less than that |
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| 19:58.20 | simonrvn | xerophyte: openssh-*; ssh, and sshd, there's no sshc |
| 19:58.52 | alexIdoia | simonrvn: nothing in hosts.deny the sshd is running since I can connect to another box on the same LAN |
| 19:59.02 | robin_sz | alexIdoia, nope |
| 19:59.08 | robin_sz | alexIdoia, bad logic |
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| 19:59.26 | robin_sz | you dont use sshd to connect to a another box on the lan |
| 19:59.29 | simonrvn | alexIdoia: ssh != sshd |
| 19:59.33 | robin_sz | you use your ssh client |
| 19:59.45 | robin_sz | alexIdoia, try ps -ef | grep sshd |
| 19:59.58 | robin_sz | on the server where you *THINK* it is runing |
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| 20:00.13 | alexIdoia | robin_sz: hum I have nothing |
| 20:00.16 | xand | connection refused very likely means sshd isn't running |
| 20:00.25 | robin_sz | alexIdoia, then, its not running |
| 20:00.27 | xand | at least, not on that port |
| 20:00.33 | alexIdoia | robin_sz: :) thanks |
| 20:00.39 | simonrvn | alexIdoia> robin_sz: hum I have nothing |
| 20:00.48 | simonrvn | it isn't running, period |
| 20:00.55 | iwkse | hi all, i installed bootsplash but i don't get it on the tty1...on all the others works |
| 20:01.11 | alexIdoia | yeah well ok I understood ! : |
| 20:01.16 | alexIdoia | :D |
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| 20:01.35 | assasukasse | hi everyone, is scp deprecated? should i use sftp instead? |
| 20:01.46 | robin_sz | nope |
| 20:01.54 | ricky | Nope- use whichever you feel is appropriate. |
| 20:01.55 | robin_sz | both are good, but different |
| 20:01.55 | alexIdoia | pff that was simple and I was trying to find something else ! |
| 20:02.02 | tarzeau | assasukasse: i'd use rsync |
| 20:02.17 | assasukasse | tarzeau: but if u need secure tunnelling? |
| 20:02.25 | tarzeau | assasukasse: yes rsync+ssh |
| 20:02.35 | robin_sz | rsync over ssh |
| 20:02.48 | robin_sz | rsync -e ssh -avu src/ dst/ |
| 20:02.49 | assasukasse | tarzeau: uhm good idea.. |
| 20:02.51 | tarzeau | check the -e option if you have both rsh and ssh installed |
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| 20:03.05 | tarzeau | some people need speed |
| 20:03.12 | robin_sz | its over ssh by default on Debian, if ssh is installed |
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| 20:03.56 | tarzeau | robin_sz: only because they create rsh symlinks |
| 20:04.26 | robin_sz | and, the devil made me do it |
| 20:04.47 | assasukasse | i have a question about ssh, i have a debian machine at uni, that does a reverse tunnel on my ubuntu machine at home, and i can access the debian easily by ssh -p port remoteuser@localhost, now i am on the debian machine on ssh, and i want to ssh to another debian, called "misnuc", if i ping it it answers, but ssh user@misnuc doesn't work, just hangs there forever.. |
| 20:04.53 | assasukasse | since i use RSA autentication |
| 20:05.05 | assasukasse | could it be that sshd crashed on the misnuc debian? |
| 20:05.35 | assasukasse | and i suppose there is no way but accessing personally to reboot or restart sshd.. |
| 20:05.43 | assasukasse | since at now is 10pm and university is closed.. |
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| 20:06.26 | alexIdoia | how do I get sshd to start at boot time ? |
| 20:06.37 | Supaplex | alexIdoia: update-rc.d |
| 20:06.43 | xand | alexIdoia: you dont need to |
| 20:06.48 | xand | it does it by default |
| 20:06.50 | assasukasse | it does start automagically |
| 20:06.55 | alexIdoia | when installing ? |
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| 20:07.05 | alexIdoia | ok |
| 20:07.08 | xand | apt-get install ssh.... and it'll start at boot |
| 20:07.11 | assasukasse | /etc/init.d/ssh start as root, if didn't start.. |
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| 20:07.37 | alexIdoia | assasukasse: well it says fail |
| 20:07.39 | xand | assasukasse: either machine is very busy/slow, sshd is broken, or it's firewalled |
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| 20:07.52 | pawalls | Is there any way to generate a preseed.cfg from manual run through the debian installer? |
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| 20:08.10 | assasukasse | xand: machine should be fine, and is on the same network..so i suppose sshd hang or something worse.. |
| 20:08.28 | alexIdoia | where would sshd output its log ? |
| 20:08.36 | xand | alexIdoia: we told you that |
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| 20:08.43 | alexIdoia | oops ok |
| 20:08.44 | xand | /var/log/auth.log |
| 20:09.28 | assasukasse | damn, if someone broke my debian in the measurements room is a problem... |
| 20:09.36 | MangosDebian | RichiH: you around? |
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| 20:10.06 | alexIdoia | xand: well /etc/init.d/ssh start returns [fail] and there is nothing interesting in auth.log any clue ? |
| 20:10.07 | chops | alexIdoia: Hmph -- I asked you over an hour ago whether the third machine could connect to the first two machines (that you've now found aren't running sshd), and you said "yes"! |
| 20:10.51 | alexIdoia | chops: no the machines that can't connect to each other could connect to another machine |
| 20:11.08 | alexIdoia | I thought being able to ssh to a machine meant that sshd was running |
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| 20:11.21 | chops | alexIdoia: (14:57:04) chops: alexIdoia: Is the third machine capable of "get"ing to either of the first two machines? What exactly do you mean by "get to"? |
| 20:11.25 | alexIdoia | this does not solve my problem now which is not being able to start sshd |
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| 20:11.50 | alexIdoia | chops: ok I misundertood then |
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| 20:12.37 | versuchsanstalt | should i choose a k7 flavor for an AMD of the cpu family 6? |
| 20:13.05 | abrotman | is it an athlon/sempron ? |
| 20:13.11 | versuchsanstalt | duron |
| 20:13.15 | xand | yes |
| 20:13.17 | abrotman | yep .. k7 will be fine |
| 20:13.25 | versuchsanstalt | thank you xand and abrotman |
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| 20:17.13 | versuchsanstalt | well, time to reboot moms machine then |
| 20:17.28 | abrotman | you gave your mom a duron ? |
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| 20:17.40 | versuchsanstalt | and a shared mem video card, yes |
| 20:17.43 | blizzo1 | my mom gave me durex |
| 20:17.48 | abrotman | she must really love you .. jeez |
| 20:17.49 | versuchsanstalt | *g* |
| 20:17.58 | blizzo1 | said "be safe" |
| 20:18.14 | versuchsanstalt | blizzo1: and thats really your mom, are you sure about that? |
| 20:18.16 | versuchsanstalt | :) |
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| 20:18.47 | blizzo1 | It was right after she met my first girlfriend. |
| 20:18.53 | versuchsanstalt | ok, i see. |
| 20:18.54 | versuchsanstalt | :) |
| 20:19.05 | blizzo1 | she didn't want to be a grandma ;) yet. |
| 20:19.35 | blizzo1 | maybe she just didn't like my girlfriend. |
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| 20:19.40 | Nazcafan | hi |
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| 20:20.51 | ampex | What does it mean when a process is contained in brackets? [bonnie] for example |
| 20:20.59 | ampex | This is output from ps -aux | grep bonnie |
| 20:22.45 | blizzo1 | ampex: I think it means your process is defunct or zombie. |
| 20:22.53 | ampex | I can't seem to kill it it |
| 20:22.59 | ampex | it's almost as if it's stuck in I/O wait |
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| 20:23.11 | demo_ | hi in order to get my wifi card working i had to upgrade to 2.6.20-1-686 kernel. This is not in the repos yet. Could anyone give me pointers as to how to compile a kernel module for this? specifically fglrx-kernel-src? |
| 20:23.12 | ampex | like the device it was writing to timed out |
| 20:23.17 | blizzo1 | use holy water, doh, wait that's for vampires. |
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| 20:23.35 | zinx | blizzo1: i think it works on zombies too |
| 20:23.47 | chops | demo_: That kernel is definitely in the repos |
| 20:24.30 | demo_ | is it? *demo googles |
| 20:25.02 | alexIdoia | ok I am sorry to insist but now sshd is running and I can't still connect to my box via another computer |
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| 20:25.50 | rmwaite | it just doesnt make sense. the dns server will answer requests using nslookup from a vista machine on the local lan, the dns machine itself, but when running it remotely it times out. |
| 20:26.09 | demo_ | chops - not for i686 i don't think |
| 20:26.13 | solemnwarning | What's the dpkg factoid for building packages? |
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| 20:26.58 | kingsley | Now that oss has been open sourced, has there been any talk about adding it to debian's archives? |
| 20:26.59 | Nazcafan | in order to have an easy access to usb keys and other removable devices without editing the fstab, which package should I install ? what should I do ? can someone point me to a tutorial or something like that ? |
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| 20:27.24 | pickcoder | I don't think dpkg is concious at the moment |
| 20:27.42 | solemnwarning | !make |
| 20:27.43 | dpkg | make: *** No rule to make target. Stop. See also Makefile |
| 20:27.48 | solemnwarning | Oh? :) |
| 20:27.50 | pickcoder | it's back |
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| 20:29.05 | adv0cate | has anyone else noticed a problem with gimp, gimp-data, and locales in Sid? |
| 20:29.24 | Nazcafan | !hal |
| 20:29.25 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, hal is a Hardware Abstraction Layer from freedesktop.org, which gives desktop software a programmatic way to examine the hardware present in a system and be notified of its changes. |
| 20:29.25 | abrotman | !bts |
| 20:29.25 | dpkg | bts is probably the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 20:31.04 | chops | demo_: Oh, it's been replaced with 2.6.21 and 2.6.22 in sid. My mistake; I didn't realize 2.6.20 was no longer in. It _was_, though :-) |
| 20:31.32 | demo_ | so i could upgrade to 2.6.21 |
| 20:31.55 | chops | demo_: Correct. That will probably be less painful for you than trying to do things with a non-Debian kernel (though as always YMMV). |
| 20:32.17 | demo_ | ok will try - thanks |
| 20:32.46 | frog | hi, i have newly installed debian etch and my alsa is not working. i have ac97 audio controller. these modules are probed: snd_via82xx, snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcmsnd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device |
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| 20:33.29 | chops | !doesn't work |
| 20:33.30 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 20:33.46 | chops | demo_: np |
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| 20:33.58 | szymon_g | :! nvidia one-liner |
| 20:34.07 | szymon_g | hi to all |
| 20:34.17 | szymon_g | ! nvidia one-liner |
| 20:34.17 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable. |
| 20:34.26 | stew | szymon_g: please /msg the bot |
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| 20:34.43 | szymon_g | stew : sorry, |
| 20:35.46 | szymon_g | see ya |
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| 20:38.30 | frog | ok, while usinig oss wrapper, the sound is clicking. while using alsa there is no sound at all. no messages in /var/log/syslog |
| 20:39.21 | chops | frog: Checked the volume with alsamixer? Does 'alsaplay' work? |
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| 20:41.26 | frog | chops: you mean aplay? |
| 20:41.45 | brunner | does anyone know how to dock gaim to the right side of my screen so that when I maximize windows, they don't overlap by buddy list? |
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| 20:42.57 | chops | frog: Er, yes, aplay. Sorry. |
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| 20:43.44 | _aib | what entry would I put in sources.list to get this url to be seen as a repository? http://grey.colorado.edu/apt/archives/binary/ |
| 20:43.48 | chops | frog: The fact that the OSS wrapper works makes it sound like it may be a problem with the application... also, are you using a standard Debian kernel? |
| 20:43.51 | dkr | brunner: make a new panel, put it right above gaim against side, make it transparent and as wide as gaim |
| 20:44.13 | frog | chops: yes, everything is standard |
| 20:44.41 | frog | chops: does aplay should play wav or mp3? |
| 20:45.14 | chops | frog: I know wav works, not sure about mp3 |
| 20:45.18 | brunner | dkr: that would prevent me from being able to use that space, right? |
| 20:45.27 | frog | chops: by me it doesnt work |
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| 20:45.46 | holycow | guys i'm on a bit of a fishing expedition here ... anyone manage to install vmware tools on debian 4.0 guest without problems? |
| 20:45.48 | frog | it starts to play wav and looping after 1s |
| 20:46.02 | holycow | the installer insists the headers do not match the kernel |
| 20:46.28 | holycow | and i would find it hard to believe that say debian shipped with one version of gcc while the kernel might have been compiled with another like ubuntu pulled a while back |
| 20:46.33 | chops | frog: Hm, I would guess that that's an alsa bug then (though I'm not sure) |
| 20:46.36 | holycow | anyone with experience on this? |
| 20:46.55 | frog | how can i fix it? |
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| 20:48.37 | chops | holycow: For stable Debian that is hard to believe. Have you installed linux-headers of the appropriate version, and are you compiling vmware tools against them? I have no experience with vmware, BTW :-( |
| 20:49.00 | chops | holycow: (Hard to believe that gcc would be incompatible with the version used to compile the kernel, I mean) |
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| 20:49.15 | holycow | chops no worries ... well apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) would do it so yeah i think so |
| 20:49.16 | holycow | but |
| 20:49.30 | holycow | the script INSISTS that ther emust be a /usr/src/linux dir |
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| 20:49.36 | holycow | which debian doesn' have or use a symlink |
| 20:49.48 | chops | holycow: That's because /usr/src/linux is a retarded approach |
| 20:49.57 | holycow | so i tried creating a symlink to the 2.6.18-4-686 dir and didn't work |
| 20:50.03 | holycow | chops, well yeah indeed |
| 20:50.04 | chops | holycow: google "linus /usr/src/linux redhat" I think leads to the discussion |
| 20:50.05 | holycow | i agree |
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| 20:50.21 | holycow | chops, oh so i'm not alone on thinking thats idiotic? |
| 20:50.21 | holycow | ha! |
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| 20:51.02 | chops | holycow: Not at all. It's a broken approach, and I beleive that it leads to visible brokenness if your kernel gets too out of sync with the kernel that glibc was compiled against. |
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| 20:52.16 | alexIdoia | I have an external drive hfs+ is there a way I can write to it ? -I can only read- |
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| 20:53.20 | FuzzyB | alexIdoia, far as i know the only thing outside of linux that can write of a hfs+ drive is darwin, maybe fbsd |
| 20:53.59 | alexIdoia | I thought they were a kernel module no ? |
| 20:54.10 | k31th | im attempting to use debian on a embedded device |
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| 20:54.29 | k31th | using a disk on module with like 2million r/w |
| 20:54.39 | k31th | how big is a minimal debian install ? |
| 20:54.45 | alexIdoia | what fs I can use for a drive to be readable and writable by both gnu and mac ? |
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| 20:54.59 | k31th | I aim to run asterisk and freepbx. |
| 20:55.02 | chops | alexIdoia: VFAT is a very popular choice |
| 20:55.14 | alexIdoia | on a mac as well ? |
| 20:55.28 | alexIdoia | ok I'll try |
| 20:55.30 | ceriand | alexIdoia: there's also an ext2 driver for OS X if you don't want to clobber your permissions |
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| 20:56.15 | alexIdoia | clobber my permissions ? |
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| 20:56.24 | tuxx | hey guys |
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| 20:56.39 | tuxx | i get the following error |
| 20:57.06 | tuxx | when i go to my phpmyadmin: http://81.95.4.162/phpmyadmin |
| 20:57.07 | tuxx | it was working a while ago until i installed the package: libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 20:57.17 | tuxx | i somehow broke it by doing that |
| 20:57.21 | tuxx | anyone know how i can fix that? |
| 20:57.28 | ceriand | alexIdoia: vfat doesn't know about the unix style permissions and user owner ship, so if you use vfat you'll lose that |
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| 20:57.45 | ceriand | doesn't affect the data in the files at all |
| 20:57.54 | tuxx | i need to install the phpmodule with mysql compiled in |
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| 20:58.09 | alexIdoia | ok |
| 20:58.20 | ceriand | vfat is a good option if you want it to work in linux, mac, and windows |
| 20:58.29 | tuxx | anyone know how i can fix it? |
| 20:58.36 | alexIdoia | ceriand: cool |
| 20:58.44 | abrotman | did you install php4-mysql ? |
| 20:59.03 | tuxx | i just did |
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| 20:59.07 | tuxx | 1 sec ago |
| 20:59.13 | ceriand | Anyone have any experience building the gcc-4.1.2 package as a cross compiler for arm? |
| 20:59.24 | tuxx | abrotman: that seems to have fixed it |
| 20:59.42 | chops | ceriand: I've built earlier gccs as arm cross-compilers |
| 20:59.59 | tuxx | abrotman: hm or maybe not actually |
| 21:00.06 | pickcoder | tuxx: it works fine |
| 21:00.12 | chops | ceriand: I just followed directions I found on the interweb, though. It seems that with Debians of several years ago it's actually very straightforward. |
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| 21:00.20 | tuxx | pickcoder: hm.. php isnt working |
| 21:00.29 | pickcoder | tuxx: close your browser |
| 21:00.33 | tuxx | i just did apache2ctl restart |
| 21:00.35 | tuxx | hm ok |
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| 21:00.50 | zapalotta | hi |
| 21:00.53 | pickcoder | tuxx: make sure you firewall that to your own IP |
| 21:00.59 | pickcoder | else anyone can get there and play |
| 21:01.00 | ceriand | chops: yeah, I've tried a bunch of howtos, but something always fails in a different spot |
| 21:01.13 | tuxx | pickcoder: ok |
| 21:01.24 | zapalotta | for some reason, my postfix insists in deleting /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf on startup on etch. Does body have an idea? |
| 21:01.29 | tuxx | pickcoder: im pretty sure its not working though |
| 21:01.37 | pickcoder | I just loaded the login page |
| 21:01.44 | pickcoder | and it didn't like my root password |
| 21:01.57 | tuxx | really? |
| 21:02.00 | pickcoder | yes |
| 21:02.04 | tuxx | here it always downloads a file called phpmyadmin :) |
| 21:02.06 | pickcoder | your browser is caching the old page |
| 21:02.12 | pickcoder | clear your history |
| 21:02.14 | pickcoder | and reload the page |
| 21:02.16 | tuxx | naw i just used a different browser |
| 21:02.19 | tuxx | firefox instead of safari |
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| 21:02.21 | pickcoder | works fine for me |
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| 21:02.48 | chops | ceriand: Hm, it works for me. If you pastebin your error I can take a look at it (as can everyone else here, obviously :-) |
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| 21:04.32 | k31th | how would i remove cached debian deb files pulled down by apt? |
| 21:04.57 | dkr | apt-get clean |
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| 21:05.21 | techbie | hello all |
| 21:05.35 | techbie | wat is the rght place to define system wide aliases |
| 21:06.25 | pickcoder | techbie: what kind of aliases |
| 21:06.47 | alexIdoia | I am using gparted to partition and format, I have a choice of FAT16 FAT32 but no VFAT, am I missing some lib ? |
| 21:06.49 | techbie | command aliases |
| 21:07.19 | tuxx | pickcoder: i dont have a static ip |
| 21:07.26 | tuxx | is there any way to firewall it anyways? |
| 21:07.36 | ceriand | chops: I dumped it in #flood |
| 21:07.42 | tuxx | not sure if i get a certain range like.. 75.42.x.x |
| 21:07.43 | tuxx | or something |
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| 21:07.56 | pickcoder | tuxx: you can limit traffic to 127.0.0.1 and use X to get to it |
| 21:08.03 | ceriand | alexIdoia: FAT32 is vfat |
| 21:08.05 | pickcoder | without a firewall |
| 21:08.08 | k31th | how do i configure apt mirrors? |
| 21:08.10 | techbie | pickcoder:command aliases |
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| 21:08.31 | k31th | i need to add some mirrors as it was not done at install time, dpkg-reconfigure ??????? |
| 21:08.45 | alexIdoia2 | sorry I have been disconnected, so is there some libs to install to format as vfat ? |
| 21:08.50 | ceriand | chops: it looks like the build script is compiling libiberty as i386 instead of arm and trying to link it with arm modules |
| 21:09.09 | ceriand | alexIdoia2: FAT32 is vfat |
| 21:09.09 | Baldric | How does a user run a command that requires root priv, everytime the user starts an Xsession? |
| 21:09.17 | alexIdoia2 | ok |
| 21:09.18 | alexIdoia2 | thanks |
| 21:09.33 | tuxx | pickcoder: or is it possible to firewall to a hostname |
| 21:09.36 | tuxx | such as... |
| 21:09.45 | tuxx | DSL01.83.171.148.33.ip-pool.NEFkom.net |
| 21:09.49 | techbie | k31th: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 21:09.56 | tuxx | then do: *.ip-pool.NEFkom.net |
| 21:10.36 | pickcoder | techbie: use alias or create symlinks yourself in a respective ./bin/ |
| 21:10.55 | k31th | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.01 | k31th | doh :p |
| 21:11.23 | techbie | pickcoder:i want to define it system wide , do i add entry in /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 21:12.27 | techbie | k31th: !sources.list |
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| 21:13.07 | pickcoder | profile |
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| 21:13.22 | pickcoder | or make a symlink |
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| 21:13.39 | techbie | pickcoder:thanks:) |
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| 21:13.55 | lindenle | any utility available to convert csh scripts to bash? |
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| 21:17.17 | shwouchk | why was I banned? |
| 21:17.29 | nile | does the "Native" hinter choice in the fontconfig-config package correspond to the use of the legally questionable Apple patents in Freetype? (http://freetype.sourceforge.net/patents.html) |
| 21:17.32 | FuzzyB | were you a douche? |
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| 21:17.44 | shwouchk | oh, apparently I wasnt banned |
| 21:17.45 | shwouchk | nm |
| 21:17.46 | shwouchk | hehe |
| 21:17.53 | shwouchk | FuzzyB: not that Im aware of |
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| 21:21.54 | AKX | Does anyone have a good idea why my prefork Apache's every process goes to some sort of CPU-eating loop when the server is high-loaded |
| 21:21.55 | AKX | ? |
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| 21:22.11 | AKX | That is, if I have 30 worker children in Apache, my loads spike up to near 30 |
| 21:22.44 | Supaplex | apache's loaded? woah ;) |
| 21:22.47 | Supaplex | !beer apache |
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| 21:23.32 | dvl_ | http://paste.debian.net/32389 |
| 21:23.32 | dvl_ | anyone knows why i'm getting this when try to update? |
| 21:23.36 | demo_ | hi I am trying to install fglrx on a 2.6.21-2-686 kernel, i have sid in my sources list. Module-assistant reports:Package fglrx-kernel-src was not built successfully, see /var/cache/modass/fglrx-kernel-src*buildlog* - that file does not appear to exist.. |
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| 21:24.37 | yster | hey, can a .deb determine whether or not it's being installed via apt at installtime? |
| 21:24.38 | wols_ | demo_: ls /var/cache/modass/ |
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| 21:25.19 | dvl_ | how i fix this ->>> http://paste.debian.net/32389 |
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| 21:25.40 | Cross-M | hi guys, i`ve installed beryl on etch but my desktop got froze when I active the beryl. I'm able to see the window effects, but I unable to click on anything. Does anyone know how i could fix it? |
| 21:25.44 | pickcoder | AKX: you may want to ask in Apache |
| 21:26.06 | demo_ | wols_ http://pastebin.ca/611312 |
| 21:26.36 | tuxx | pickcoder: i cant understnad how its working for you |
| 21:26.42 | tuxx | pickcoder: i tried on several comptuers |
| 21:26.47 | tuxx | and it always downloads the file phpmyadmin |
| 21:26.49 | demo_ | Cross-M are you starting it with beryl-manager? |
| 21:26.50 | chops | ceriand: Well, that doesn't sound right. File a bug? |
| 21:26.50 | tuxx | http://81.95.4.162/ |
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| 21:27.06 | pickcoder | tuxx: I got a blank page |
| 21:27.07 | Cross-M | demo_, hi demo, yes.. i'm |
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| 21:27.18 | demo_ | dunno then sorry |
| 21:27.30 | demo_ | try #beryl? |
| 21:27.43 | tuxx | pickcoder: hmm.. i have phpinfo() running |
| 21:27.47 | tuxx | in index.html |
| 21:27.49 | Cross-M | demo_, gonna try, thanks =) |
| 21:27.50 | tuxx | but it doesnt show me anything |
| 21:27.55 | tuxx | i guess php isnt working properly, huh? |
| 21:28.07 | tuxx | <body> |
| 21:28.07 | tuxx | <?php phpinfo(); ?> |
| 21:28.08 | tuxx | </body> |
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| 21:28.39 | valdyn | tuxx: |
| 21:28.41 | pickcoder | tuxx: is .html set as a PHP extension in apache? |
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| 21:29.02 | pickcoder | .php is normally the only file extension that will be passed through the php module |
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| 21:29.17 | tuxx | pickcoder: root@81-95-4-162:~# cat /etc/apache/conf.d/php5.conf |
| 21:29.18 | tuxx | <IfModule mod_php5.c> |
| 21:29.18 | tuxx | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.18 | tuxx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:29.35 | yster | anyone know? can a package determine whether or not it's being installed via apt or by dpkg -i, etc? |
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| 21:29.51 | tuxx | sry abt that |
| 21:29.59 | demo_ | could anyone help me interpret my pastebin please? it seems like i may have seprerate current/availible versions of fglrx-kernel-src... |
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| 21:30.33 | Lek | hello, my comp would start up anymore, missing device /dev/disk/by-uuid |
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| 21:31.20 | tuxx | pickcoder: i dont understand it was working fine |
| 21:31.26 | tuxx | until i installed libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 21:31.31 | tuxx | then it collapsed :) |
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| 21:32.33 | pickcoder | tuxx: apache will only use or the other in handler defs |
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| 21:33.03 | pickcoder | check the AddHandler statements for the php module loader/conf files |
| 21:34.22 | tuxx | root@81-95-4-162:/etc/apache2# grep -R AddHandler * |
| 21:34.26 | tuxx | apache2.conf: AddHandler type-map var |
| 21:34.38 | tuxx | thats all i got in apache2/ |
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| 21:34.46 | tuxx | and nothing in /etc/apache/conf.d |
| 21:35.25 | Lek | hello, my comp would start up anymore, missing device /dev/disk/by-uuid it don't load anymore as well as /dev/sda8, target system file missing, doesnot have /sbin//init |
| 21:35.48 | Lek | what to do? |
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| 21:36.59 | pickcoder | tuxx: decide which apache you're going to run and purge the other one |
| 21:37.42 | tuxx | apache2 |
| 21:37.55 | tuxx | apache isnt even installed |
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| 21:40.25 | holycow | the first cd should be enough to install a base debian install right? |
| 21:40.29 | pickcoder | apache was installed at some point else /etc/apache wouldn't exist |
| 21:40.45 | pickcoder | or an apache 1.3 module was installed |
| 21:41.35 | holycow | additionally ... how do i check if my kernel headers match my running kernel? |
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| 21:42.04 | holycow | i can install the correct ones of course, but one installer insists that as it tries to compile some modules the kernel headers for 4.0 do not match the kernels in the repos |
| 21:42.14 | holycow | which is very strange indeed, just wondering how one checks that |
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| 21:43.11 | ceriand | holycow: 'uname -a' will tell you what you're currently running |
| 21:43.44 | holycow | ceriand, *nod* and when i install the headers for said kernel i can't compile modules against the kernel headers |
| 21:43.46 | holycow | strange huh? |
| 21:44.23 | MONO` | anyone used Ultimate Boot CD before? |
| 21:44.52 | wols_ | MONO`: is debian on that CD? |
| 21:44.59 | ceriand | holycow: do you have any other versions of the headers installed? |
| 21:45.11 | holycow | yep |
| 21:45.16 | MONO` | wols_: no |
| 21:45.27 | wols_ | MONO`: then why are you asking that here? |
| 21:45.48 | adv0cate | has anyone else had a problem with gimp being uninstalled in Sid? apt-get install gimp lists gimp-data (= 2.2.15-2) as a required dep, but yesterday's apt-get update installed gimp-data (2.2.16-1) |
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| 21:46.29 | ceriand | try getting rid of them and just leave the version you want |
| 21:47.32 | ceriand | you might also have to reinstall the version you want |
| 21:47.50 | chops | adv0cate: Are you using http.us.debian.org (or whatever), or a specific mirror? |
| 21:48.41 | chops | holycow: You might try compiling some Debian module using make-kpkg, just to make sure that your headers are ok |
| 21:49.25 | chops | holycow: And if that works okay, you could complain to the vmware people that their tools-building script is a bollocks |
| 21:49.31 | holycow | chops, i'll try that, is it possible to check if the headers are for the running kernel without simly looking at the uname and package name data? |
| 21:49.41 | holycow | chops, *nod* aha right |
| 21:49.45 | holycow | indeedy |
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| 21:49.56 | holycow | i thank you for your help btw, appreciate it |
| 21:50.03 | chops | holycow: That's the way I would do it, but compiling a module using make-kpkg might be a good sanity check |
| 21:50.14 | adv0cate | chops: /etc/apt/sources.list uses ftp.us.debian.org unstable, a mirror from iweb.ca, non-us.debian.org, and security.debian.org |
| 21:50.19 | chops | Err m-a rather. You know what I mean :-) |
| 21:51.02 | chops | adv0cate: That sort of thing happens sometimes, then -- you'll get an up-to-date mirror one day, and the next day ftp.us.debian.org will resolve to a less up-to-date mirror and Debian will seem to go back in time a bit |
| 21:51.06 | pickcoder | holycow: make sure that uname -r matches the linux-headers-X.X.X symlink path in /usr/src/ |
| 21:51.17 | chops | adv0cate: You can use netselect to find a nearby mirror and specify that mirror explicitly to stop it from happening |
| 21:51.38 | pickcoder | holycow: look for the "linux" symlink |
| 21:51.49 | holycow | pickcoder, i had to create one actually, on debian it doesn't exist |
| 21:52.00 | pickcoder | holycow: it does on mine |
| 21:52.03 | pickcoder | Etch |
| 21:52.05 | adv0cate | chops: glad to hear it's not a big bug that everyone's experiencing. I rather expected it was a delay in getting all the updates to all the mirrors. thank you for clueing me on netselect. |
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| 21:52.12 | Supaplex | BAH. time to add sarge back into my sources.list. grumble old kernel headers gumble... |
| 21:52.17 | holycow | and when i point it to the right folder the buld scrpt directly tells me the header files are incorrect |
| 21:52.20 | holycow | pickcoder, etch eh? |
| 21:52.23 | pickcoder | you may need to run m-a prepare |
| 21:52.31 | holycow | pickcoder, i'm downloading cd1 from debian i'm going to rebuild this |
| 21:53.31 | tuxx | pickcoder: is there some way i can make apt-get reinstall /etc/apache2 |
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| 21:53.36 | tuxx | the standard configs? |
| 21:53.39 | Supaplex | !confmiss |
| 21:53.39 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 21:53.46 | Supaplex | tuxx: ^^^^ |
| 21:53.47 | SerajewelKS | tuxx: purge it and reinstall with confmiss |
| 21:54.01 | tuxx | SerajewelKS: pruge as in apt-get remove apache2 |
| 21:54.03 | Supaplex | confmiss is irrevelant after purge |
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| 21:54.07 | tuxx | what does reinstall with confmiss mean? |
| 21:54.12 | SerajewelKS | tuxx: as in apt-get purge apache2 |
| 21:54.13 | serengeti | Kobaz, if you're still there: dd worked great, I was able to clone my old drive to the new one and what is really cool, i was able to resize the encrypted filesystem using tips from debian-administration.org :) thanks for the help even though I didn't have to use rsync after all. |
| 21:54.26 | SerajewelKS | !tell tuxx about confmiss |
| 21:54.33 | adv0cate | netselect-apt, however, is |
| 21:54.36 | tuxx | SerajewelKS: it says the operation purge is not allowed |
| 21:54.42 | Supaplex | SerajewelKS: dpkg just said that here 1m ago |
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| 21:54.53 | SerajewelKS | tuxx: apt-get remove --purge apache2 |
| 21:54.58 | SerajewelKS | Supaplex: obviously he missed it |
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| 21:55.17 | Supaplex | apparently :) |
| 21:55.18 | aronofsky | hi, is there any package that provides the db_archive command on debian ? |
| 21:55.22 | serengeti | it's getting late, so many "ables" in one sentence... |
| 21:55.25 | serengeti | bye :) |
| 21:55.53 | chops | adv0cate: Well, netselect is a bit tangential -- you could pick any mirror you wanted, as long as it was a particular one and not ftp.us.debian.org. The point is that apt's behavior is better if you give it a particular mirror than if you specify the generic host (which will move randomly back and forth through the archive as the name resolves randomly to more- or less-up-to-date hosts). |
| 21:56.17 | tuxx | it tells me to try: apt-get -f installâ |
| 21:56.23 | tuxx | because it depends on apache2.2-common |
| 21:56.39 | adv0cate | chops: netselect-apt is a very nice automation tailored specifically for Debian mirrors. :) |
| 21:57.13 | techbie | aronofsky:man apt-file |
| 21:57.18 | tuxx | i installed |
| 21:57.25 | pickcoder | aronofsky: db4.X-util |
| 21:57.27 | tuxx | with apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install apache2 |
| 21:57.33 | pickcoder | there's like 3 versions |
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| 21:57.34 | tuxx | but it didnt give me the config files... :/ |
| 21:58.03 | pickcoder | tuxx: reinstall the common package |
| 21:58.09 | tuxx | oh ok |
| 21:58.20 | SerajewelKS | tuxx: this should do it |
| 21:58.34 | SerajewelKS | tuxx: dpkg --force-depends -P apache2.2-common ; apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install apache2.2-common |
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| 21:59.01 | chops | adv0cate: Ah, I see. Yes, that will work. |
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| 21:59.15 | Xander | anyone know if i need to do anything to the sources.list after i have updated my kernel to get the new kernel stuff such as linux-modules |
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| 21:59.51 | Supaplex | custom kernel, or debian-stock? |
| 22:00.11 | Xander | you got me on that one |
| 22:00.20 | Xander | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ |
| 22:00.25 | Xander | i downloaded the kernel from there |
| 22:00.26 | Xander | 2.6.22 |
| 22:00.31 | Xander | so, custom i think |
| 22:00.36 | Supaplex | did you use make-kpkg, or compile your own, or just install. ok, that's custom. |
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| 22:01.59 | Supaplex | Xander: it's provided by linux-image, so it's already there I guess. |
| 22:02.12 | Xander | hm |
| 22:02.13 | Xander | k |
| 22:02.18 | Xander | thanks |
| 22:02.23 | Xander | but when i did an apt-cache search |
| 22:02.28 | Xander | all i got was 2.6.18 stuff |
| 22:02.30 | Xander | nothing under 2.6.22 |
| 22:02.42 | Xander | what if i need to do other things in future, was there something i missed? |
| 22:03.00 | Xander | im guessing theres a pathway i need to change under sources.list to pick up the different kernel stuff |
| 22:03.25 | pickcoder | Xander: changing the sources.list isn't going to help |
| 22:03.32 | pickcoder | you've compiled a non-Debian kernel source tree |
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| 22:04.08 | Xander | ok, so ill just continue to compile stuff under 2.6.18 untill debian begins to update their own programs list |
| 22:04.21 | pickcoder | regardless of the source, the sources.list has nothing to do with the kernel version you're running |
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| 22:04.37 | pickcoder | it only denotes the repos and distro version you are wanting packages for |
| 22:04.58 | Xander | yeh, but what i mean is the sources.list contains the urls to the programs |
| 22:05.06 | Xander | the searches im doing are returning programs for 2.6.18 |
| 22:05.11 | Xander | linux-headers was only an example |
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| 22:05.28 | Xander | its mainly a future concern |
| 22:05.31 | pickcoder | Xander: changing the mirror won't make a difference |
| 22:05.32 | Xander | it works just fine now |
| 22:05.32 | chops | Xander: Debian is never going to distribute modules which will work for a hand-compiled kernel, no matter what versions are involved or how long you wait |
| 22:05.43 | cchance | would someone like the help me with this: http://pastebin.ca/611376 |
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| 22:05.50 | Xander | ah k |
| 22:05.50 | pickcoder | if you upgrade to Lenny or Sid, then you may or may not get a newer kernel |
| 22:06.03 | Xander | reason i upgraded was for the better wifi support |
| 22:06.04 | SJr|Work | Is there a clean and quick way I can get the php5 packages from unstable |
| 22:06.04 | pickcoder | review the packages site for versions |
| 22:06.25 | chops | Xander: It happens that the 2.6.18 stuff you see won't work with your 2.6.22 kernel -- but that has nothing to do with the version numbers specifically, and everything to do with the fact that your kernel is hand-compiled and Debian's stuff is designed to work with a Debian kernel. |
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| 22:07.00 | Xander | ok... |
| 22:07.09 | xembrx | sort of an obscure question, but what's the dillio with the grsecurity module in the debian packages |
| 22:07.17 | Xander | so im guessing it was a bad decision for me to upgrade? :p |
| 22:07.29 | xembrx | I remember installing it and it said it wasn't really installed and that I had to patch the kernel myself |
| 22:07.38 | pickcoder | Xander: you can boot into a 2.6.18 kernel if you haven't wiped the other grub installs |
| 22:07.46 | Xander | yeh, i can |
| 22:07.52 | pickcoder | no worries then |
| 22:07.56 | Xander | damn |
| 22:08.05 | Xander | i was kinda hoping to get my wireless card working |
| 22:08.12 | tuxx | http://pastebin.ca/611399 |
| 22:08.19 | Xander | the firmware keeps giving me jip about headers for 2.6.21 missing |
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| 22:08.36 | tuxx | i have an index.php witht he content: http://pastebin.ca/611399 at http://81.95.4.162/ |
| 22:08.39 | tuxx | but it shows me no output |
| 22:08.46 | tuxx | so i'm guessing my php isnt working properly? |
| 22:09.06 | techbie | Xander:2.6.21 is available in backport for etch |
| 22:09.08 | cchance | Anyone here? http://pastebin.ca/611376 Im trying to install vhcs2 |
| 22:09.17 | chops | Xander: You can also upgrade to a backported Debian kernel of a higher version, if you want a newer version. If your locally-compiled kernel is working for you, though, there's not a lot wrong with sticking with it and upgrading to a Debian kernel on the next stable upgrade |
| 22:09.33 | chops | Xander: You won't get security updates for your local kernel, but you won't get them for a backported kernel either. |
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| 22:10.12 | Xander | thanks chops |
| 22:10.23 | chops | Xander: np |
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| 22:12.15 | cchance | Anyone help me? |
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| 22:13.53 | mindmedic | cchance: if stdlib.h and the like aren't found by make something is very wrong .. is there a 'configure' script? |
| 22:14.31 | mindmedic | oops, i meant gcc insteat of make |
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| 22:15.07 | cchance | i dont know |
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| 22:15.28 | cchance | going to find out though |
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| 22:15.48 | yster | anyone know? can a package determine whether or not it's being installed via apt or by dpkg -i, etc? |
| 22:16.22 | cchance | no |
| 22:16.26 | techbie | !anyone |
| 22:16.27 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you with or is a guru/expert of <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 22:17.16 | xembrx | rawr |
| 22:17.24 | Supaplex | me0w |
| 22:17.42 | xembrx | why don't we just make it non-chat discussion |
| 22:17.44 | cchance | Yes there is a config |
| 22:17.49 | Supaplex | yster: there's a slim chance it's in your history. |
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| 22:18.54 | amphi | yster: all packages are installed by dpkg AFAIK |
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| 22:20.23 | xembrx | there's apt-cache policy I think |
| 22:20.31 | cchance | http://pastebin.ca/611376 |
| 22:20.55 | yster | amphi: err, yeah. you know what I'm getting at though, perhaps? :P |
| 22:22.05 | amphi | yster: yes, and I would think not |
| 22:22.12 | cchance | How hard is it to get a decent webhost started my Lord |
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| 22:24.58 | cchance | what dependencys are required for make? |
| 22:25.07 | SJr|Work | build-essentials probably |
| 22:25.17 | pickcoder | cchance: apt-cache show <package> |
| 22:25.21 | spherez | hi all |
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| 22:25.56 | spherez | Someone knows how to activate the plugin icemetaint of xmms ? |
| 22:25.58 | urv | SJr|Work: --force-depends |
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| 22:26.15 | rxKaffee | are /usr/sbin/pbuilder and /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends safe to give system-wide sudo access to? |
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| 22:26.50 | cchance | all of makes dependencys are all installed but i still get errors while makeing |
| 22:26.58 | tuxx | hey guys |
| 22:27.01 | tuxx | i simply cant get my |
| 22:27.03 | tuxx | php to work |
| 22:27.04 | cchance | http://pastebin.ca/611376 |
| 22:27.14 | cchance | tuxx |
| 22:27.22 | tuxx | cchance: yea? |
| 22:27.24 | cchance | install libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 22:27.28 | tuxx | its installed |
| 22:27.34 | cchance | restart apache |
| 22:27.37 | Supaplex | !tell tuxx -about don't work |
| 22:27.51 | stew | tuxx: are you useing apache or apache2? |
| 22:27.54 | Supaplex | since when is php suppose to work? </taunt> |
| 22:28.14 | tuxx | Supaplex: :) well i described it earlier |
| 22:28.17 | spherez | well no is icymetaint ! |
| 22:28.17 | tuxx | ahhh now its wroking.. |
| 22:28.22 | spherez | de xmms |
| 22:28.23 | cchance | Yeah |
| 22:28.40 | cchance | now some one help me here |
| 22:28.41 | cchance | http://pastebin.ca/611376 |
| 22:28.43 | Supaplex | tuxx: cool. |
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| 22:28.59 | urv | cchance: it is not a problem of make |
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| 22:29.11 | stew | !b-e cchance |
| 22:29.12 | dpkg | cchance: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 22:29.46 | ceriand | cchance: is there a /usr/include/stdlib.h on your system, if not install build-essential |
| 22:30.02 | cchance | it was not installed |
| 22:30.06 | cchance | im doing it now |
| 22:30.13 | cchance | Thanks |
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| 22:30.30 | Securi | does debian use 10GB for swap? |
| 22:30.40 | cchance | it better not |
| 22:30.50 | cchance | i only got a 5gb hard disk |
| 22:30.56 | ricky | Heh. |
| 22:31.00 | ampex | SEcki: it depends upon your usage patterns |
| 22:31.03 | ampex | Securi rather |
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| 22:31.14 | ricky | You can set the amount of swap as you see fit. |
| 22:31.15 | Supaplex | Securi: I consider that a very rare occurance. |
| 22:31.19 | Securi | my harddrive is 160gb only sees it as 147gb :S |
| 22:31.33 | karsten | Securi: Um, what's your question? |
| 22:31.37 | ricky | Securi: What does df -h give? |
| 22:31.40 | cchance | which remonds me |
| 22:31.43 | karsten | Securi: gigabytes v. gigibytes. |
| 22:31.45 | Supaplex | Securi: use free to see swap. |
| 22:31.47 | ricky | Securi: (Pastebin it somewhere) |
| 22:31.52 | cchance | how can i check my disk usage |
| 22:31.58 | stew | ! 160 * ( 1000*1000*1000) / (1024*1024*1024) |
| 22:31.59 | dpkg | 149.011611938477 |
| 22:32.00 | ricky | karsten: Aha- that must be it. |
| 22:32.00 | unlink | cchance: df -h |
| 22:32.01 | ampex | Securi: that's not debian, that just the way hard drive manufacturers calculate space |
| 22:32.06 | Securi | also why does it give me a choice of 2 debian OS when i reboot? |
| 22:32.06 | ricky | cchance: df -h |
| 22:32.13 | Securi | one has (single user) |
| 22:32.16 | Securi | in bracket next to it |
| 22:32.19 | unlink | cchance: or du, depending on what you want to do. read their respective man pages: man df, and man du |
| 22:32.23 | JordiGH | Sweet. |
| 22:32.27 | JordiGH | ! 2 ** 4 |
| 22:32.27 | dpkg | 16 |
| 22:32.28 | Supaplex | !tell Securi -about single |
| 22:32.30 | JordiGH | ! 2 ^ 4 |
| 22:32.30 | dpkg | 6 |
| 22:32.32 | ricky | Securi: What are the choices? I think debian keeps one or two older kernels. |
| 22:32.35 | Securi | df -h gives 146+5gb |
| 22:32.41 | ricky | Securi: Oh, single user mode. |
| 22:32.41 | stew | Securi: your hard drive is 160GB which is about 149GiB the difference between GB and GiB is where your confusion is |
| 22:32.42 | Securi | both amd 63's |
| 22:32.44 | karsten | Securi: 142 * (2^30) = 152471339008 |
| 22:33.07 | Securi | ahh ok makes sense now :) |
| 22:33.44 | Securi | damn |
| 22:33.47 | karsten | Securi: More on binary prefix units at wikipedia. |
| 22:33.47 | Securi | im love my new setup :P |
| 22:33.56 | Securi | yeh im going to read every single damn thing on |
| 22:33.59 | Securi | www.aboutdebian.com |
| 22:33.59 | karsten | Securi: Mfrs use base 10, computer programmers use base 2. |
| 22:34.01 | Securi | tomorrow :) |
| 22:34.11 | Securi | well not tomorrow the day after need to build my new pc tomorrow :) |
| 22:34.16 | Supaplex | Securi: I hope you can read fast ;) |
| 22:34.24 | Securi | is ther a script for Xchat which states your pc spec? |
| 22:34.29 | Securi | Supaplex |
| 22:34.35 | Securi | got friday night + sat + sun to read it |
| 22:34.36 | karsten | Securi: I'd recommend www.debian.org, particularly the docs system. |
| 22:34.47 | JordiGH | Can a DD check for me if jaybonci is MIA? |
| 22:34.50 | Securi | will read them as well going to read the securit article on about debian.com |
| 22:34.51 | Securi | :) |
| 22:35.34 | sandman | Is the package linux-image-2.6.18-4-xen-vserver-686 supposed to be used in dom0's? |
| 22:35.40 | sandman | Err |
| 22:35.43 | sandman | I mean, domU's |
| 22:36.22 | karsten | sandman: From the name I'd guess that that's a combination of xen + vserver, but I haven't been following it. |
| 22:36.22 | Securi | what do you guys think of www.wslabi.com ? |
| 22:36.25 | Securi | rather off topic |
| 22:36.34 | Securi | but id like to hear your views on it :) |
| 22:36.40 | Securi | tbh another money making scheme i think |
| 22:36.43 | JordiGH | He has a long backlog: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=jaybonci%40debian.org |
| 22:36.52 | karsten | sandman: IIRC the xenified kernels were being compiled with both dom0 and domU bits in them so yes, they should be interchangeable. |
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| 22:37.43 | Securi | lol |
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| 22:39.40 | JordiGH | !greet tont |
| 22:39.41 | dpkg | Tag, tont |
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| 22:41.04 | sandman | Really? |
| 22:41.33 | sandman | That's somewhat interesting... but a domU kernel is supposed to be 30% or more smaller than a dom0 kernel, since they former don't need to include any real device drivers |
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| 22:43.19 | tont | I have installed Virtual Box. .then to have added my customer to the group vboxusersâĶ I have restart the session. .when i have re-entered does not work to me more audio :* ... what has happened? |
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| 22:43.41 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 22:46.59 | ricky | Posterdati: Now look what you've done :o (;)) |
| 22:47.38 | xembrx | heh |
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| 22:48.37 | nightfreak_ | hi, is it possible to force a package to upgrade by adding a new source to the sources.list? |
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| 22:49.33 | adv0cate | huge split on two networks |
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| 22:51.04 | micky | can anyone tell me the name of the package that includes the mkinitrd command ? |
| 22:51.04 | micky | ping x |
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| 22:51.38 | micky | can anyone tell me the name of the package that includes the mkinitrd command ? |
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| 22:51.43 | sinizzl | hi |
| 22:51.43 | sinizzl | how can i display uptime in motd ? |
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| 22:52.15 | urv | micky: initrd-tools |
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| 22:56.47 | retro_neo | I'm trying to install bittornado on sarge and I get a weird error related to python : "bittornado: Dependecy: python (< 2.4) but 2.4.4-2 will have to be installed" I have python 2.4.4, does that mean bittornado requires an older version? |
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| 22:57.48 | micky | blow_fish then use alsaconf / alsaco*_something to configure it and alsamixer to set the volumes |
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| 22:58.22 | micky | can anyone tell me the name of the package that includes the mkinitrd command ? |
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| 22:58.42 | urv | micky: initrd-tools |
| 22:58.43 | PerfDave | Hi, I'm having trouble with my Debian Etch box. I've used module-assistant to build the rt2x00 drivers my wireless card needs, but now network-manager sees it as a wired rather than a wireless interface (wlan0) |
| 22:58.44 | simonrvn | holy smokes, that's quite the 'split |
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| 22:59.44 | micky | urv: Couldn't find any package matching "initrd-tools". However, the following packages contain "initrd-tools" in their description: cryptsetup |
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| 23:00.29 | micky | urv: i'm using etch with "stable" sources.list |
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| 23:00.56 | tuxx | hey guys |
| 23:00.58 | urv | micky: so am i |
| 23:01.01 | tuxx | i'm having some trouble setting this up |
| 23:01.02 | tuxx | http://forums.cacti.net/about9179.html&highlight= |
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| 23:01.22 | micky | urv and i cant find initrd-tools using aptitude.. should i try apt-get ? |
| 23:01.25 | tuxx | 81-95-4-162:/var/www# mysqladmin --user=root create cacti |
| 23:01.25 | tuxx | mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 23:01.25 | tuxx | error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' |
| 23:01.27 | ricky | Oops, that was answered already. |
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| 23:02.03 | DawnLight | does anyone know where i can find information on porting windows apps to linux? |
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| 23:02.05 | stew | micky: you should not use initrd-tools with kernels > 2.6.13, use initramfs-tools |
| 23:02.08 | micky | tuxx you need to add a -p at the end of the command then press enter and type your mysql root password |
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| 23:02.53 | mbor | how should my sources.list look like if I want packages for etch on an amd64? do I need to specify the amd64? currently I have deb http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/ etch main |
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| 23:02.58 | micky | stew: thanks.. and what command should i use to create the initrd image ? instead of mkinitrd |
| 23:03.14 | stew | micky: mkinitramfs |
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| 23:03.24 | micky | stew: thanks :) |
| 23:03.32 | DawnLight | is there a general development channel around here? |
| 23:03.33 | ricky | micky: Perhaps initramfstools? |
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| 23:03.43 | DawnLight | as in software programming? |
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| 23:03.47 | nightfreak_ | does aptitude read pins from /etc/apt/preferences? |
| 23:03.49 | stew | micky: in general, you should build your kernel using make-kpkg using the --initrd switch which makes initrd generation automatic: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 23:04.16 | PerfDave | Bah, this network-manager stuff is bloody hard to work out |
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| 23:04.23 | tuxx | micky: worked like a charm thx |
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| 23:04.33 | micky | stew i did use make-kpkg but the tutorial on the debian.net forums did not say anything about --initrd.. :) |
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| 23:04.53 | micky | tuxx anytime |
| 23:04.59 | ricky | I don't think sources.list has any arch-specific stuff, right? |
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| 23:05.41 | ricky | Not sure how useful a general channel can be. There are a ton of language channels, right? |
| 23:05.55 | micky | ricky what do you mean ? |
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| 23:06.20 | mbor | ricky: so I don't need to specify amd64 in sources.list? |
| 23:06.24 | dkr | he was answering DawnLight |
| 23:06.24 | blow_fish | nasty split |
| 23:06.39 | blow_fish | what do i need to do get sound again? |
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| 23:07.17 | micky | blow_fish -> aptitude install alsa-base alsa-tools alsa-utils |
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| 23:07.34 | micky | blow_fish it should give you the utils you need to configure it in console |
| 23:07.44 | mbor | how should my sources.list look like if I want packages for etch on an amd64? do I need to specify the amd64? currently I have 'deb http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/ etch main' |
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| 23:07.55 | StarkD | Hi! anyone got a link to a tutorial for getting mail from multiple IMAP accounts to the local computer? Been trying for days now... I want to start using Mutt but I can't find any complete tutorial |
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| 23:08.01 | floppyears | hi |
| 23:08.09 | JordiGH | mbor: No, you don't need to specify the architecture. |
| 23:08.15 | mbor | JordiGH: great! thx |
| 23:08.19 | floppyears | could you guys recommend me a good rss reader, but for the shell ? |
| 23:08.19 | dkr | StarkD: fetchmail? |
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| 23:08.29 | Noven | mbor, |
| 23:08.34 | Noven | check out my sources.list |
| 23:08.36 | Noven | michael@sunshine:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:08.36 | Noven | #Lenny |
| 23:08.36 | Noven | deb http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib |
| 23:08.36 | Noven | deb-src http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib |
| 23:08.36 | Noven | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 23:08.40 | micky | StarkD you want to use an email client or a server that will collect and store them locally ? |
| 23:08.42 | StarkD | dkr: sure, that is a start |
| 23:09.04 | mbor | what a sacrifice Noven did for me :P |
| 23:09.27 | StarkD | micky: does it matter? I'm a newbie in UNIX-mailing |
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| 23:09.54 | floppyears | anybody ? |
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| 23:10.03 | floppyears | do you guys use an rss reader but in the shell ? |
| 23:10.04 | blow_fish | do i run alsaconfig? |
| 23:10.07 | StarkD | micky: I've tried fetchmail, getmail, exim4 postfix and some more |
| 23:10.21 | blow_fish | what command do i execute from the command line? |
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| 23:10.28 | unlink | why isn't sudo prompting for my password? i don't have NOPASSWD in my /etc/sudoers |
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| 23:10.49 | PerfDave | Hi, I'm having trouble with my Debian Etch box. I've used module-assistant to build the rt2x00 drivers my wireless card needs, but now network-manager sees it as a wired rather than a wireless interface (wlan0), how do I change it? |
| 23:11.07 | JordiGH | info newsbeuter |
| 23:11.08 | stoned | alright im going home |
| 23:11.12 | JordiGH | !info snownews |
| 23:11.12 | stoned | hey PerfDave |
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| 23:11.16 | stoned | longo time no seeo |
| 23:11.17 | dpkg | snownews: (Text mode RSS newsreader), section net, is optional. Version: 1.5.7-7 (sid), Packaged size: 142 kB, Installed size: 596 kB |
| 23:11.26 | JordiGH | !info newsbeuter |
| 23:11.26 | eald | unlink, it has a timeout, if you already writted your password, it won't ask for a while |
| 23:11.29 | dpkg | newsbeuter: (text mode rss feed reader with podcast support), section net, is optional. Version: 0.4-3 (sid), Packaged size: 233 kB, Installed size: 768 kB |
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| 23:11.51 | stoned | alright im going home |
| 23:11.52 | JordiGH | !tell floppyears about apt-cache search |
| 23:11.56 | x_link | stoned: Hi |
| 23:12.00 | stoned | home! |
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| 23:12.18 | mbor | are md5 mismatchs common? I just experienced ~10 occurences of those after upgrade |
| 23:12.20 | floppyears | thanks JordiGH but I have used it and nothing pops up, so I figure I would ask here where there are a ton of users |
| 23:12.24 | StarkD | refrasing: anyone using Mutt here? |
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| 23:12.59 | RichiH | sorry for the splits |
| 23:13.00 | JordiGH | floppyears: Did you see the two that I found up there by typing "apt-cache search rss reader" ? |
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| 23:13.30 | JordiGH | unlink: Did you add yourself to the sudoers group? |
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| 23:13.46 | floppyears | JordiGH: none of them uses ncurses :( |
| 23:13.47 | JordiGH | unlink: sudo has a bug that it doesn't respect the sudoers file if you're in the sudoers group. |
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| 23:14.12 | JordiGH | floppyears: Wtf? Both I mentioned above do. |
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| 23:15.19 | onur | Hi. I am installet some build-dep packages for a package and i build package. I want to remove all build-dep packages now. Can i do this? |
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| 23:15.52 | JordiGH | onur: Yes. |
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| 23:16.12 | onur | JordiGH: how can i do this? |
| 23:16.17 | blizzo1 | Has anyone here worked on getting an intel i945gm graphics chipset working on etch? Specifically getting DRI to work. |
| 23:16.17 | blow_fish | coool i have sound now |
| 23:16.38 | blow_fish | million thx |
| 23:16.45 | blow_fish | thx micky |
| 23:16.55 | urv | !tell onur about pbuilder |
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| 23:17.08 | JordiGH | onur: Er. You have to manually remove them, I'm afraid. I don't suppose you took note of which ones were installed? |
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| 23:18.47 | blow_fish | anyone have dillo up and running? |
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| 23:18.55 | karmatronic | hello |
| 23:19.05 | JordiGH | It's a shame that aptitude can't fetch build-dependencies. |
| 23:19.13 | JordiGH | !anyone |
| 23:19.13 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you with or is a guru/expert of <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 23:19.13 | karmatronic | does mplayer on lenny or experimental support jack ? |
| 23:19.27 | onur | ok JordiGH thanks |
| 23:20.28 | JordiGH | onur: I'm not sure why apt-cache show won't show it, but you can get a list of a package's build-depends by looking at its full entry under /var/lib/apt/lists/[relevant-file] . |
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| 23:21.25 | spheard | !uptime |
| 23:21.25 | Jonbo | WindowsVista Uptime: 3days 1hr 25mins 9secs Best: 1wk 3days 17hrs 38mins 50secs |
| 23:21.26 | Pixer | I've been up for 0 Days, 02:54:42 |
| 23:21.51 | JordiGH | onur: The *_Release files are the ones you want to examine. |
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| 23:22.12 | cafuego | 09:22:05 up 658 days, 19:30, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
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| 23:22.22 | JordiGH | onur: And proceed carefully. You probably can't remove all the build-depends if you do any kind of coding yourself (e.g. build-essential). |
| 23:22.56 | Posterdati | hi where's the debian swirl wallpaper in /usr/ ? |
| 23:23.08 | JordiGH | onur: And I'm wrong. Not the _Release files. The ones that say which distro they're from. Ack. |
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| 23:23.41 | JordiGH | Posterdati: Try /usr/share/wallpapers ? |
| 23:23.50 | Posterdati | JordiGH: no :( |
| 23:24.02 | JordiGH | Posterdati: Are you referring to the default blue Gnome Debian Swirl background? |
| 23:24.13 | Posterdati | JordiGH: no kde one |
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| 23:24.42 | JordiGH | Posterdati: Er, Debian has never had a KDE wallpaper for me. Only Gnome comes with a blue Debian swirl. |
| 23:24.58 | JordiGH | Posterdati: Can you take a snapshot of what wallpaper you want? |
| 23:25.12 | PerfDave | My Etch desktop has KDE wallpaper in KDE |
| 23:25.21 | Posterdati | JordiGH: no, because I accidentaly change it :) |
| 23:25.30 | JordiGH | PerfDave: Snapshot, please? |
| 23:25.43 | bzed | the kdm at least has a nice blue background, I've set my own wallpaper since months, so I'm not sure about the one in kde, but I think there was a nice looking one, too |
| 23:27.16 | xembrx | hah.. uptime 5 days, 5 hours, 55 minutes :P |
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| 23:27.45 | JordiGH | Posterdati: Try /usr/share/images/desktop-base |
| 23:28.13 | StarkD | anyone know of a tutorial for getting mail a computer? exim, postfix, qmail, sendmail, fetchmail or whatever is fine as long as it works. been trying for days here... |
| 23:28.44 | Posterdati | JordiGH: no, the swirls was in the centre |
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| 23:29.14 | PerfDave | StarkD: To or from? |
| 23:29.26 | PerfDave | StarkD: What are you actually trying to do? |
| 23:29.38 | JordiGH | Posterdati: Was it blue? |
| 23:29.43 | JordiGH | Posterdati: Or red? |
| 23:29.48 | Posterdati | JordiGH: a kinda |
| 23:29.55 | Posterdati | JordiGH: grey |
| 23:30.10 | StarkD | PerfDave: sorry a bit fussy, to my local computer from several IMAP servers. I want to read my mail using Mutt |
| 23:30.22 | petemc | StarkD: mutt can read imap mailboxes |
| 23:30.29 | PerfDave | StarkD: You don't need any MTA to access mail via IMAP |
| 23:30.35 | JordiGH | Posterdati: Ugh. I think I know which you mean. debblue-1600x1200.png |
| 23:30.38 | StarkD | PerfDave: what! crap :) |
| 23:30.43 | PerfDave | StarkD: Though mutt isn't great at handling multiple IMAP servers. |
| 23:30.44 | JordiGH | Posterdati: The ugliest one. :-) |
| 23:30.52 | PerfDave | StarkD: MTAs are for transporting mail over SMTP. |
| 23:30.57 | Posterdati | JordiGH: let's see :) |
| 23:30.58 | PerfDave | (and local delivery) |
| 23:31.12 | StarkD | PerfDave: OK, any other suggestions than Mutt then? |
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| 23:31.36 | StarkD | PerfDave: as long as it is text-based |
| 23:32.05 | PerfDave | StarkD: http://wooledge.org/~greg/mail.html |
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| 23:32.10 | JordiGH | Posterdati: http://www.cimat.mx/~jordi/piccies/ugly-debian.png |
| 23:32.24 | JordiGH | Posterdati: There are also a few others on the rhs which may be the ones you like. |
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| 23:32.53 | PerfDave | StarkD: mutt's as good as it gets for text-mode MUAs. You might try using imapproxy to slurp multiple accounts into one local directory structure and access that with mutt. |
| 23:33.04 | xacier | irssi much better |
| 23:33.24 | xacier | geee, can i use twm install gnome? |
| 23:33.31 | xacier | **instead |
| 23:33.34 | xacier | of |
| 23:33.43 | mbor | after trying to upgrade to etch, my apach2.conf has gone mad. everywhere there's errors. what's going on? |
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| 23:34.05 | mbor | apache2.conf* |
| 23:34.36 | ricky | What kind of errors? |
| 23:35.02 | demo_ | i am having problems building a fglrx kernel-module module-assistant reports Bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could not be found |
| 23:35.03 | StarkD | PerfDave: ok imapproxy seems nice |
| 23:35.23 | mbor | ricky: Invalid command 'Order', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included |
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| 23:35.27 | mbor | ricky: just an example |
| 23:35.43 | dvs | demo_: aptitude install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 23:35.50 | jetscreamer | xacier: of course |
| 23:35.54 | JordiGH | Posterdati: Was that it? |
| 23:36.00 | jetscreamer | apt-get install twm iirc nowadays |
| 23:36.01 | mbor | ricky: and under wajig dist-upgrade I get in the end: Starting deferred execution scheduler: atdinvoke-rc.d: initscript atd, action "start" failed |
| 23:36.08 | dvs | or is it linux-headers? |
| 23:36.13 | jetscreamer | linux- |
| 23:36.16 | StarkD | PerfDave: thanks. Gonna give imapproxy a try |
| 23:36.20 | ricky | Hmm.. never seen that before. |
| 23:36.21 | dvs | doh! |
| 23:36.24 | jetscreamer | kernel in sarge & < |
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| 23:36.47 | Posterdati | JordiGH: no |
| 23:36.57 | mbor | ricky: what on earth should I do then? |
| 23:37.27 | demo_ | dvs : 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 919 not upgraded. |
| 23:37.40 | dvs | demo_: aptitude install kernel-linux-$(uname -r) |
| 23:37.46 | dvs | why is 919 not installed? |
| 23:38.09 | demo_ | it's etch machine with a sid kernel |
| 23:38.13 | demo_ | pinned packages |
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| 23:39.01 | dvs | oops. |
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| 23:39.26 | dvs | demo_: aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 23:39.35 | dvs | And yes, that's the right package |
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| 23:40.33 | mbor | ricky: I really need some help here |
| 23:41.05 | JordiGH | Posterdati: Was it supposed to be a lighter colour, but same kind of blue? |
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| 23:41.20 | Posterdati | JordiGH: yes |
| 23:41.28 | Posterdati | JordiGH: irregular swirl |
| 23:41.29 | JordiGH | Posterdati: Er, is it more like desktop-splash but centred? |
| 23:41.38 | Posterdati | JordiGH: yes! |
| 23:41.49 | ricky | mbor: a2Is mod_access enabled? |
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| 23:41.54 | JordiGH | Posterdati: You're picky. :-) |
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| 23:42.08 | Posterdati | JordiGH: it wasn't in the background images list :( |
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| 23:43.19 | mbor | ricky: hmm don't think so. how can I tell? |
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| 23:43.58 | mbor | ricky: I did keep my old apach2.conf under dist-upgrade btw |
| 23:44.40 | bk | Hi, I have a problem. I have booted a computer with two disks connected to a highpoint disk using a livecd. But when I try to mount /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 it sais that the device is already mounted or busy. why? |
| 23:45.03 | MONO` | bk: ...because it's already mounted? |
| 23:45.04 | bk | What is the correct devicename for the array if not /dev/sda /dev/sdb? |
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| 23:45.12 | bk | MONO` it is not |
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| 23:45.21 | MONO` | hm |
| 23:45.28 | PerfDave | bk: Is the decice already mounted or busy? Paste the output of "mount" to http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 23:45.45 | bk | PerfDave, hold on |
| 23:45.48 | ricky | mkey: Wait.. never mind- Apache 2.2 doesn't need mod_access anymore. |
| 23:45.56 | ricky | mkey: Sorry, meant mbor. |
| 23:46.40 | ricky | mbor: a2enmod authz_host - see if that helps. |
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| 23:47.12 | MONO` | is it possible to automatically detect and fix damaged sectors of a hd? |
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| 23:47.23 | xacier | is there a way to get sound in twm? |
| 23:47.27 | mbor | ricky: ehm, do you want to to run that command? what does it do? |
| 23:47.35 | mrsno | MONO` usually with the hdd manufacturer's boot disk yes |
| 23:47.45 | mrsno | detect, well that varies |
| 23:47.50 | ricky | mbor: Enable the module that provides the Order directive. |
| 23:47.54 | MONO` | mrsno: it's a Toshiba - no manufacturer's boot disk is available |
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| 23:48.17 | mbor | ricky: it is already enabled |
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| 23:48.54 | mrsno | MONO` someone on another irc network just mentioned TestDisk to me 10minutes ago, maybe check it out (boot able cd) |
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| 23:48.54 | MONO` | ok |
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| 23:48.58 | demo_ | that worked - thanks |
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| 23:49.08 | MONO` | mrsno: Ultimate Boot CD fails to suite it's name in any way what so ever, dont try it |
| 23:49.10 | tuxx | i just installed cacti |
| 23:49.25 | tuxx | and apt-get asked me some stuff if i want to create a mysql database and stuff |
| 23:49.33 | tuxx | then i messed it up |
| 23:49.36 | tuxx | and removed it |
| 23:49.44 | tuxx | now when reinstalling it it doesnt prompt me for that stuff anymore |
| 23:49.46 | ricky | mbor: Oh- and restarting apache gives an error about Order? |
| 23:49.54 | tuxx | is there some way to make it prompt me the configuration stuff again? |
| 23:49.57 | mrsno | MONO` i wonder why toshiba do not supply software for testing |
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| 23:50.08 | MONO` | mrsno: cuz they're retarded? lol idk |
| 23:50.09 | eald | tuxx, install, purge and reinstall |
| 23:50.10 | MONO` | brb |
| 23:50.11 | mbor | ricky: yes among others |
| 23:50.13 | demo_ | whoops spoke too soon, it fails with http://pastebin.ca/611545 |
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| 23:50.56 | ricky | mbor: Can you pastebin the entire list of errors that you receive? |
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| 23:51.26 | ricky | mbor: Does your apache2.conf include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.load and /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf? |
| 23:51.29 | demo_ | whoops missed the error, here is correct paste http://pastebin.ca/611547 |
| 23:51.36 | mbor | ricky: yes |
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| 23:52.06 | mrsno | ah so paravirt_ops gives fglrx issues as well, i thought it was only nvidia on 2.6.20 ;I |
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| 23:53.10 | bk | PerfDave http://www.pastebin.ca/611550 |
| 23:53.25 | bk | That's the mount output |
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| 23:54.36 | bk | root@0[~]# mount -o ro /dev/sda1 /target/ |
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| 23:54.37 | bk | mount: enten er /dev/sda1 allerede monteret eller /target/ optaget |
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| 23:54.57 | bk | Whatever that means, it doesn't work to mount the disks in the highpoint array |
| 23:55.23 | bk | I've no clue why, but neither /dev/sda1 och /dev/sdb1 works |
| 23:55.47 | mbor | ricky: this is after doing wajig dist-upgrade. but dist-upgrade didn't run succesfully. http://pastebin.com/945431 |
| 23:55.49 | bk | Are there any common array device created for highpoint raid controllers? |
| 23:55.50 | holycow | guys are the kernel headers supposed to be located in /usr/src or /lib/modules? |
| 23:55.51 | mrsno | demo_ you are compiling fglrx for a 2.6.20 kernel? |
| 23:56.03 | demo_ | trying to |
| 23:56.16 | demo_ | ohh am i |
| 23:56.29 | demo_ | i meant to do 2.6.21 |
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| 23:56.51 | demo_ | how do do i specify 2.6.21? |
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| 23:57.10 | fungo | hi, i'm having some weird trouble with my i386 chroot, it's not playing sound with iceweasel + flash |
| 23:57.12 | magic_pinguim_ | hello |
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| 23:57.27 | PerfDave | fungo: Have you bind-mounted /dev into the chroot? |
| 23:57.30 | fungo | it's playing fine with mpg123 |
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| 23:57.41 | fungo | yes, i did |
| 23:57.47 | mrsno | demo_ there is a patch i believe you can apply |
| 23:57.48 | bk | PerfDave, What am I doing wrong, why can't I mount the devices? |
| 23:57.54 | PerfDave | bk: You appear to be using Knoppix |
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| 23:58.07 | mrsno | demo_ on nvidia i used a modified sh installer to get around the issue, i dont know about fglrx however sorry |
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| 23:58.47 | fungo | http://rafb.net/p/J8ynD370.html |
| 23:58.51 | mbor | ricky: any thoughts? |
| 23:58.54 | fungo | PerfDave that's how my schroot is |
| 23:59.02 | mrsno | demo_ if you google that paravirt_ops error you will see many others experiencing similar problems, with possible solutions |
| 23:59.41 | PerfDave | fungo: I don't know what that is, I'm afraid. It's been years since I did chroot stuff, if bind-mounting /dev doesn't help then I'm out of ideas. |
| 23:59.42 | demo_ | OK will give it a try - thanks |
| 23:59.53 | ricky | mbor: Well, that looks unrelated to the apache issue- what does /etc/init.d/atd start give? |
