| 00:00.10 | eldowan | Reiser_X: and PC A is 192.168.1.100? |
| 00:00.35 | Reiser_X | PC A 192.168.1.100 |
| 00:00.44 | Reiser_X | PC B 192.168.1.101 |
| 00:00.58 | Reiser_X | exactly |
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| 00:01.20 | eldowan | Reiser_X: did you run `exportfs -a` on PC B? |
| 00:01.26 | Reiser_X | no |
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| 00:01.30 | eldowan | Reiser_X: do that |
| 00:01.52 | Reiser_X | ok |
| 00:01.54 | Reiser_X | ready |
| 00:02.03 | eldowan | Reiser_X: then try mount 192.168.1.101:/home /mnt/home on PC A |
| 00:02.17 | norc | Is there any difference in DivX encoded videos and XviD encoded videos for decoding? |
| 00:02.28 | whadar | is there any tool that query popcon data? |
| 00:03.13 | twisted` | norc: yep, DivX is a commercial encoding, while XviD is a "free" implentation of it |
| 00:03.13 | eldowan | norc: I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. |
| 00:03.43 | Reiser_X | mount: RPC: No registered program |
| 00:03.44 | eldowan | norc: xvid should decode divx files fine, or at least that used to be the case. |
| 00:03.46 | twisted` | norc: actually DivX was derived from the same code as XviD only from 3.2 it went commercial and a new release was made... |
| 00:04.09 | twisted` | so I dunno what ur planning to do but if u plan to decode DivX with XviD it should work |
| 00:04.25 | norc | twisted`: so for decoding it does *NOT* matter if it was ENcoded with DivX or XviD? |
| 00:04.32 | eldowan | norc: that is correct. |
| 00:04.41 | norc | good, thanks for the confirmation. :) |
| 00:04.45 | eldowan | norc: :D |
| 00:05.40 | Reiser_X | eldowan: nothing |
| 00:06.46 | eldowan | Reiser_X: do you have nfs-common installed on PC A? use aptitude or apt-get |
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| 00:07.18 | Reiser_X | is already installed |
| 00:07.24 | eldowan | Reiser_X is having a problem with nfs. on PC B he has nfs-kernel-server installed, and has updated the /etc/exports file, and run exportfs -a. On PC A he has nfs-common installed, but when he tries to mound he gets the message "mount: RPC: No registered program" when run as root. |
| 00:08.13 | pablo_ | hi, i have a via unichrome as video card, will the drivers xserver-xorg-video-via from debian testing work? |
| 00:08.19 | Eclipser | which terminal would be good? konsole, gnome-terminal, urxvt, uxterm suck - eterm is nice but doesn't support wtf-8 :( |
| 00:08.21 | eldowan | Reiser_X: sorry, I have limited nfs experience, I just set up my first share when I was trying to help you. I haven't the skills to help you now, but hopefully someone else here will |
| 00:08.31 | abrotman | pablo_: check the man page for the driver |
| 00:08.47 | eldowan | Eclipser: I like konsole, but thats just a personal preference. |
| 00:09.02 | Eclipser | eldowan, I just tried it a while ago and didn't like it at all :) |
| 00:09.15 | SaintN | I like gnome-terminal |
| 00:09.21 | pablo_ | abrotman: man xserver-xorg-video-via? |
| 00:09.24 | abrotman | Eclipser: try them all! |
| 00:09.30 | eldowan | Eclipser: gnome=terminal would be my next step |
| 00:09.34 | abrotman | pablo_: man 4 via |
| 00:09.38 | Reiser_X | ok |
| 00:09.39 | SaintN | coz I love gnome :) |
| 00:09.40 | Reiser_X | thnaks |
| 00:09.41 | Eclipser | eldowan, I' |
| 00:09.50 | Eclipser | eldowan, I've used that many times at school and I never liked it |
| 00:09.55 | pablo_ | abrotman: where is that man? |
| 00:10.00 | Plantain | I'm trying to follow this guide here; http://thomer.com/howtos/nstx.html but all I ever get is "tun0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" |
| 00:10.00 | abrotman | pablo_: i just told you |
| 00:10.13 | pablo_ | abrotman: ahh thanks |
| 00:10.18 | eldowan | Reiser_X: on PC B, try `/etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start` |
| 00:10.32 | Plantain | Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? |
| 00:10.37 | eldowan | Eclipser: nfs? |
| 00:10.59 | Eclipser | I don't need tabs, menus or scrollbars or any of that crap, just a regular terminal with wtf-8 support :) |
| 00:11.05 | seb- | Plantain: what ru trying to install? |
| 00:11.11 | Eclipser | eterm would otherwise be near perfect but no wtf-8 :( |
| 00:11.16 | Plantain | seb-: NSTX |
| 00:11.28 | seb- | Plantain: never heard of it ...sorry |
| 00:11.31 | Plantain | But it refuses to launch |
| 00:11.42 | Reiser_X | Yeahhhhhhhhhh |
| 00:11.45 | Plantain | It's an application that tunnels data oveer DNS |
| 00:11.45 | Reiser_X | ready man |
| 00:11.56 | Plantain | *over |
| 00:12.03 | abrotman | Plantain: eh .. are you serious ? |
| 00:12.08 | eldowan | Reiser_X: works? |
| 00:12.11 | Reiser_X | thanks eldowan |
| 00:12.18 | Plantain | abrotman: Yes.... |
| 00:12.19 | twisted` | I have a gazillion files in a dir, but a lot have things in common (the 4 first digits), I'd like to make a script that creates a dir based on those numbers and then move them inside, how do I do this? |
| 00:12.20 | Reiser_X | yeah |
| 00:12.25 | eldowan | Reiser_X: remember to exportfs -a if you update /etc/exports |
| 00:12.31 | Reiser_X | ok |
| 00:12.46 | seb- | Plantain: first of all,,,DNS isn't a peer to peer protocol |
| 00:12.55 | abrotman | twisted`: a for loop and awk |
| 00:13.01 | twisted` | abrotman: hmm k |
| 00:13.07 | Reiser_X | one question, if we need to share the resource with 2000 PCs, i have to put all IPs in exports ? |
| 00:13.11 | abrotman | twisted`: might be better to ask #bash |
| 00:13.12 | eldowan | abrotman: what about cut? |
| 00:13.22 | abrotman | eldowan: that's another method |
| 00:13.22 | eldowan | Reiser_X: you can share to a subnetmask IIRC |
| 00:13.24 | seb- | Plantain: you receive info from DNS not push info |
| 00:13.37 | Reiser_X | humm |
| 00:13.38 | Reiser_X | ok |
| 00:13.41 | pablo_ | abrotman: is the same one as the xserver-xorg-video-via from ubuntu? |
| 00:13.43 | twisted` | abrotman: hmm... k |
| 00:13.48 | abrotman | pablo_: NFC |
| 00:13.55 | Plantain | seb-: It's a clever hack to get past firewalls and the like |
| 00:14.13 | abrotman | twisted`: cut might even be easier than awk ... |
| 00:14.13 | eldowan | Reiser_X: take this and modify: /mnt/cdrom 192.168.0.0/24(ro) |
| 00:14.16 | pablo_ | abrotman: nfc? |
| 00:14.19 | abrotman | !nfc |
| 00:14.19 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nfc is No Fucking Clue. National Football Conference |
| 00:14.42 | wgb | Hey, I have followed the alsa manual that dpkg gives me, but I can't get it to work. I installed alsa-base utils and libesd-alsa0 . I ran alsaconf but then when I try to do alsamixer I get alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 00:14.48 | SaintN | Plantain, never heard of this...... sounds interesting |
| 00:14.49 | eldowan | Reiser_X: that would go in your /etc/exports file, of course. |
| 00:15.10 | wgb | Its a brand new dell . . |
| 00:15.44 | eldowan | wgb: does lcpci show a soundcard? |
| 00:16.00 | eldowan | wgb: or I should say, is a soundcard detected on your system? |
| 00:16.32 | wgb | eldowan, yes and my module is loaded snd_hda_intel |
| 00:17.11 | eldowan | wgb: hmmm. I guess that might rule out your chipset not being supported... Sorry, I got nothing |
| 00:17.25 | wgb | :( |
| 00:17.33 | Plantain | For the unbeleivers, http://www.daemon.be/maarten/dnstunnel.html |
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| 00:18.59 | abrotman | for tun0 you need to load the correct driver .. and possibly make the device |
| 00:19.14 | abrotman | !tell wgb about which driver |
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| 00:19.32 | Plantain | ? |
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| 00:19.46 | justin | wgb: try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
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| 00:20.28 | eldowan | justin: is there a factoid that points to that url? |
| 00:20.39 | wgb | yeah abrotman just sent me that |
| 00:20.51 | abrotman | eldowan: /msg dpkg which driver |
| 00:20.51 | wgb | and abrotman / justin I have snd-hda-intel loaded |
| 00:21.04 | eldowan | I guess that does it then. :D |
| 00:21.08 | abrotman | anything useful in dmesg ? |
| 00:21.13 | wgb | 8086284b |
| 00:21.16 | wgb | that is the id |
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| 00:21.43 | wgb | Tons and tons of hda_codec: num_steps = 0 for NID=0x17 |
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| 00:22.02 | justin | dpkg: listkeys hcl |
| 00:22.04 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'hcl' by key (6): _default dhclient ;; #debian hcl ;; _default hcl ;; dhclient ;; CMD: deathclock (.*?) ;; hcl. |
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| 00:22.34 | abrotman | it's in the hcl factoid too |
| 00:22.46 | eldowan | Plantain: dns tunneling sounds fierce. |
| 00:23.47 | wgb | abrotman, any ideas? |
| 00:23.54 | abrotman | stop buying dell |
| 00:23.57 | abrotman | oh wait .. |
| 00:24.12 | eldowan | !prize abrotman |
| 00:24.13 | abrotman | wgb: lsmod .. see any 'snd' modules ? |
| 00:24.47 | wgb | yep |
| 00:24.49 | justin | snd_intel8x0 may be the right module.... |
| 00:24.55 | justin | that's what my dell uses :) |
| 00:25.15 | wgb | Hmm that link you sent me said snd-hda-intel |
| 00:25.32 | abrotman | snd-hda-intel 0x00008086 0x0000284b 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x0 |
| 00:26.05 | justin | wgb: are you using etch or sarge? |
| 00:26.09 | wgb | etch |
| 00:26.16 | wgb | and I am on 2.6.18 |
| 00:29.35 | Dual-MAn | hello everyone, i have windows 2003 server with active directory and folder redirection. Is it possible to replace the server the a linux box that will have similat capabilities |
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| 00:30.12 | Dual-MAn | like used database stored on a central server and documents redirected to a central server |
| 00:30.21 | eldowan | just setup nfs on my fileserver in tandem with smb. nfs transfers about 3x faster on the p3-450 machine. 3M vs 11M!! :D |
| 00:30.54 | eldowan | Dual-MAn: look into an ldap server would be my first guess. |
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| 00:31.32 | Miesco | Anyone know what the main server for jabber is? |
| 00:31.54 | abrotman | like jabber.org or jabber.com ? |
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| 00:32.33 | Miesco | I'll jst use jabber.lorg |
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| 00:33.52 | n3kl | !test |
| 00:33.52 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
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| 00:34.16 | eldowan | n3kl: flunks, and is doomed to repeat the 4th grade. |
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| 00:34.38 | apv | Hi I'm duel booting and need to bless my system with holy penguin pee, so debian boot first. If any one knows command I'd be really grateful. ps its ppc thanks |
| 00:34.40 | danf_1979 | Is there anyway that aptitude search command shows the versions of the packages found? |
| 00:34.42 | raf256 | heh |
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| 00:35.22 | Miesco | What is jabber :/ |
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| 00:36.04 | Reiser_X | eldowan: know you how to configure WIFI in laptops? |
| 00:36.07 | n3kl | Anyone know anything about setting up xen on etch? |
| 00:36.11 | abrotman | danf_1979: apt-cache policy |
| 00:36.21 | abrotman | Miesco: jabber.org should explain it |
| 00:36.21 | eldowan | Reiser_X: I have 3, and I haven't been able to do it yet. :D sorry. |
| 00:36.25 | abrotman | n3kl: it has docs |
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| 00:36.31 | n3kl | Reiser_X: kwlan |
| 00:36.33 | Reiser_X | hehe |
| 00:36.45 | Miesco | abrotman: Yea I get what it is, but like can I add people to my friends list? |
| 00:36.59 | Miesco | And do they have to be from jabber.org or what |
| 00:37.20 | danf_1979 | thanks abrotman |
| 00:37.36 | Plantain | How can I create /dev/net/tun ? |
| 00:37.44 | rares000 | how do I make virtualmin change the ips for sites? |
| 00:37.57 | abrotman | Miesco: you need to read a lot of jabber docs .. you can have a jabber.org account and talk to people using google talk |
| 00:38.30 | Miesco | abrotman: I think I get it, I looked at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabber |
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| 00:38.40 | abrotman | ok |
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| 00:38.52 | Miesco | But I guess you cant talk to people with MSN or anything like that |
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| 00:39.24 | efhutton | I have a wireless xp pro laptop...a wired xp pro desktop..and a wired linux box.....plus my main linux box...at home...the main box has port 22 forwarded...how would I forward other available ports to the other three machines? |
| 00:39.59 | abrotman | Miesco: with transports |
| 00:40.39 | thinkmassive | okay, I fixed almost all of my xfree86 problems by downgrading, but it still can't start because "xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux \n No such device." |
| 00:40.49 | Miesco | abrotman: Do you use jabber? |
| 00:40.49 | stew | thinkmassive: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 00:40.57 | abrotman | Miesco: yes |
| 00:41.04 | Miesco | abrotman: How do I add you |
| 00:41.09 | thinkmassive | stew: 2.6.8 |
| 00:41.18 | stew | thinkmassive: "modprobe psmouse" add psmouse to /etc/modules |
| 00:41.23 | Reiser_X | eldowan: are you there |
| 00:41.25 | Reiser_X | ? |
| 00:41.25 | thinkmassive | I have that |
| 00:41.33 | abrotman | Miesco: you ask me for my jabberid and request authorization |
| 00:41.40 | Reiser_X | i can create files in the shared resource |
| 00:41.44 | Reiser_X | from PC A |
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| 00:42.08 | Miesco_ | abrotman: Sorry I think I got d/c or something, how do I add you? |
| 00:42.10 | Plantain | what's wrong with "mknod /dev/net/tun c 10 200:? |
| 00:42.14 | abrotman | Miesco: you ask me for my jabberid and request authorization |
| 00:42.28 | Miesco_ | abrotman: Whats your jabberid? |
| 00:42.30 | efhutton | does anyone use jabber? I have added it to gaim....and yet...can''t ever find any discussions to join..... |
| 00:42.35 | thinkmassive | stew: since I have that line, what else could it be? |
| 00:42.38 | abrotman | Miesco_: why would i give it to you? |
| 00:42.45 | stew | thinkmassive: do you use udev? |
| 00:42.45 | Miesco_ | abrotman: Just to test |
| 00:42.48 | thinkmassive | google-chat uses jabber, doesn't it? |
| 00:42.51 | abrotman | my mom doesn't even have it |
| 00:42.53 | abrotman | thinkmassive: yes |
| 00:42.58 | thinkmassive | stew: I don't want to, maybe I need to remove it |
| 00:43.17 | Miesco_ | abrotman: How come it says protocol: jabber, and jabber.org |
| 00:43.19 | Miesco_ | I dont get that |
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| 00:43.28 | abrotman | on what? |
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| 00:43.42 | Malf | thinkmassive: Does something like /dev/input/mice work instead? |
| 00:44.13 | Miesco_ | abrotman: Why doesn't everyone from MSN go to jabber? |
| 00:44.47 | abrotman | because .. people are stupid ? |
| 00:45.23 | eldowan | Reiser_X: yes |
| 00:45.30 | Malf | because once someone is able to barely get one chat client working they don't feel it's worth it to get another one going |
| 00:45.31 | eldowan | Reiser_X: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:45.42 | abrotman | Malf: gaim solves that :) |
| 00:45.47 | Malf | I agree |
| 00:45.48 | thinkmassive | udev is not installed |
| 00:45.49 | Malf | but |
| 00:45.56 | Malf | most people don't know of gaim |
| 00:46.01 | thinkmassive | Malf: I'll try changing the xconfig |
| 00:46.06 | Plantain | Screw it, I'll try gentoo :< |
| 00:46.09 | abrotman | Malf: opencd.org |
| 00:46.18 | abrotman | erm .. wrong url |
| 00:46.21 | Malf | heh |
| 00:46.25 | abrotman | theopencd.org :) |
| 00:46.26 | Miesco_ | Can you voice talk with google talk? |
| 00:46.26 | norc | Im asking for some suggestions.. Im looking for a lightweigth music player with a database backend for the music library with graphical frontend that supports streaming to last.fm (audioscrobbler) somehow (native, plugin, hack, doesnt matter) |
| 00:46.28 | Miesco_ | in linux? |
| 00:46.37 | abrotman | Miesco_: unsure .. check the gtalk docs |
| 00:46.38 | Malf | yeah I certainly promote it all day long when I can |
| 00:47.26 | wgb | How can I see what version of alsa I have |
| 00:47.30 | concept10 | norc, exailoe is one |
| 00:47.40 | eldowan | norc: I prefer amarok, but that might not be lighweight enough... |
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| 00:47.56 | abrotman | the multimedia section of opencd needs a serious update |
| 00:48.02 | efhutton | How would I create forwarded ports to these three machines??? > wireless xp pro laptop...a wired xp pro desktop..and a wired linux box.....plus my main linux box...at home...the main box has port 22 forwarded.. |
| 00:48.23 | abrotman | norc: streaming to .. or feeding your data to ? |
| 00:48.35 | Miesco_ | abrotman: May I ask what jabber client you use (Im currently using Gajim |
| 00:48.46 | abrotman | Miesco_: gaim on linux, and exodus on win32 |
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| 00:48.55 | dendrite | efhutton: the same way you did 22? |
| 00:48.58 | Miesco_ | abrotman: You can use gaim? |
| 00:49.06 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:49.16 | efhutton | dendrite, ok, how then do I determine which ports are available? |
| 00:49.22 | abrotman | gaim supports quite a large number of protocols |
| 00:49.24 | stew | thinkmassive: cd /dev ; MAKEDEV input |
| 00:49.39 | dendrite | efhutton: netstat |
| 00:49.51 | stew | thinkmassive: and MAKEDEV busmice |
| 00:50.01 | Miesco_ | abrotman: And what server do you use jabber? |
| 00:50.13 | abrotman | Miesco_: i use three |
| 00:50.19 | abrotman | don't ask why ... |
| 00:50.57 | Roey | Mr. Brotman |
| 00:51.02 | Roey | Good evening |
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| 00:52.11 | thinkmassive | stew: thanks, I tried that an no go |
| 00:52.31 | abrotman | hi |
| 00:52.39 | Miesco_ | abrotman: Oh, how come? |
| 00:52.42 | stew | thinkmassive: the file /dev/psaux exists? and the psmouse kernel module is loaded? |
| 00:52.46 | abrotman | i just said not to ask! |
| 00:52.54 | stew | thinkmassive: how is your mouse connected? through a ps2 port? |
| 00:53.18 | thinkmassive | it's a synaptics trackpad on a ps2 bus |
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| 00:53.46 | Miesco_ | abrotman: Okay, what 3 do you use? |
| 00:53.49 | thinkmassive | stew: SynPS/2 according to dmesg |
| 00:53.52 | abrotman | some private |
| 00:54.31 | Miesco_ | abrotman: Okay so it does not really matter what server you use? |
| 00:54.45 | Miesco_ | abrotman: I see, so I could make my own server |
| 00:54.50 | thinkmassive | can I rm /dev/psaux and try MAKEDEV ? |
| 00:54.52 | abrotman | Miesco_: yes .. you can |
| 00:55.01 | thinkmassive | stew: yes, the file exists and the kernel is loaded at boot |
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| 00:56.00 | stew | thinkmassive: how is the mouse physically connected to your machine? |
| 00:56.06 | stew | thinkmassive: is the psmouse module loaded? |
| 00:56.17 | norc | abrotman: sorry, what do you mean? |
| 00:56.24 | stew | oh, nm i see you say ps2 |
| 00:56.26 | norc | 01:47 < concept10> norc, exailoe is one |
| 00:56.27 | norc | what? |
| 00:56.40 | thinkmassive | stew: yeah, it's a laptop, and the psmouse module is loaded |
| 00:56.49 | Miesco_ | abrotman: A server just stores people's accounts and stuff? |
| 00:56.51 | thinkmassive | I just rm'ed psaux |
| 00:57.02 | thinkmassive | how do I recreate it? |
| 00:57.06 | norc | eldowan: yeah, amarok pulls in kde, its not what I want.. |
| 00:57.07 | concept10 | norc, exaile is a music app that does what you asked for |
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| 00:57.30 | norc | concept10: ah.. exaile.. exailoe didnt give any match, thanks ;) |
| 00:57.34 | stew | thinkmassive: cd /dev ; /sbin/MAKEDEV busmice |
| 00:57.41 | concept10 | norc, sorry about that |
| 00:57.50 | Reiser_X | eldowan: i need some more config to write in the shared resource? |
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| 00:58.09 | norc | and thanks concept10, it seems to be exactly what I was looking for |
| 00:58.22 | concept10 | norc, np |
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| 00:58.25 | thinkmassive | damn, still no progress |
| 00:58.27 | Zarephath | Hi all...I am needing to learn how to search the repo packages for the package that contains jpeglib.h Anyone help? |
| 00:58.28 | stew | actually for the synaptics driver i don't think you even need to supply a device name |
| 00:58.33 | eldowan | Reiser_X: it takes the permissions of PC B you need to allow the uid of the php user to write in PC B |
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| 00:58.43 | stew | thinkmassive: "modprobe mousedev" and try /dev/input/mice instead |
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| 00:58.46 | karsten | exim 4 config tool is ... ? |
| 00:58.49 | Malf | Zarephath: apt-file |
| 00:58.54 | abrotman | Miesco_: and messages |
| 00:58.58 | abrotman | norc: ? |
| 00:59.02 | Zarephath | Malf: Thanks |
| 00:59.10 | norc | concept10: but it seems to be based on python.. id prefer something written in c/c++ :/ |
| 00:59.20 | abrotman | norc: there are a few gnome apps that do it .. quod libet is a decent one |
| 00:59.41 | Reiser_X | how? |
| 00:59.57 | eldowan | Reiser_X: what is your php user's uid on PC A? |
| 00:59.58 | norc | abrotman: meh.. also python =/ |
| 00:59.59 | concept10 | norc, ??? many gnome apps are written in python |
| 01:00.20 | abrotman | norc: apt-cache search audioscrobbler |
| 01:00.20 | thinkmassive | stew: you da man |
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| 01:00.37 | concept10 | norc, are you a programmer? |
| 01:00.37 | norc | abrotman: mhm.. :/ |
| 01:00.43 | thinkmassive | now I wonder if I can get the synaptics driver working heh |
| 01:00.53 | stew | !synaptics |
| 01:00.53 | dpkg | well, synaptics is a driver for the touchpad on many laptops for synaptics support in x install xfree86-driver-synaptics or xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and "man synaptics" for the driver options, if its not working try "modprobe -r psmouse ; modprobe psmouse". also see http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/index.html |
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| 01:01.45 | Reiser_X | root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash |
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| 01:01.56 | docelic | Hey folks, what's the convenient way to extract debconf settings for a package, in a format suitable for loading on another machine ? |
| 01:02.08 | ejb | does debian use alsa thats included in the kernel or does it use the external stnadalone driver |
| 01:02.16 | norc | concept10: why? |
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| 01:03.09 | concept10 | norc, im wondering why you are biased against a python music app? |
| 01:03.17 | abrotman | docelic: debconf-copydb .. maybe |
| 01:03.35 | norc | concept10: python is bloated and slow |
| 01:03.38 | abrotman | or debconf-get/set-selections |
| 01:03.47 | eldowan | Reiser_X: you have php set to run as root? |
| 01:03.55 | jelly-home | norc: they told that about java too. |
| 01:04.15 | concept10 | norc, thanks for the laugh |
| 01:04.25 | rahul | C is bloated and slow. |
| 01:04.27 | Reiser_X | hummmmm |
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| 01:04.38 | Reiser_X | actually i am testing from console |
| 01:04.39 | eldowan | Reiser_X: I'm sorry, can root write to the share? |
| 01:04.50 | Gnurdux | funnily enough, i like python and C but not java |
| 01:04.50 | jelly-home | rahul: assembler is bloated and slow. wires ftw |
| 01:05.00 | concept10 | norc, you still didnt answer the question |
| 01:05.04 | Reiser_X | have i to define hosts.allow ? |
| 01:05.08 | rahul | FPGA is bloated and slow |
| 01:05.11 | Reiser_X | in PC B ? |
| 01:05.15 | rahul | ASIC! |
| 01:05.18 | norc | concept10: there is no relevance, is it? |
| 01:05.42 | eldowan | Reiser_X: forget apache and php for right now. as root you can mount the share, yes? can you write to the share as root? |
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| 01:05.52 | Reiser_X | no |
| 01:05.55 | concept10 | norc, damn, im not asking you the root passwd of your box |
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| 01:06.33 | concept10 | norc, I was just curious into the insight on why you believe python is slow |
| 01:06.34 | eldowan | Reiser_X: you mounted to /home? as ls -l /home |
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| 01:06.43 | concept10 | for GUI apps on gnome |
| 01:06.47 | rahul | concept10: it doesn't have good data structures |
| 01:06.56 | rahul | everything is a hash and a lookup |
| 01:07.04 | jelly-home | concept10: ...which are bloated and slow anyway? :-) |
| 01:07.06 | norc | concept10: first of all python is an interpreted language.. |
| 01:07.13 | ejb | debian alsa is part of the kernel? |
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| 01:07.31 | norc | well |
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| 01:07.38 | dvs | Yay! Debian Vista was released today! |
| 01:07.41 | rahul | norc: CLPython probably compiles to native code. |
| 01:07.48 | jelly-home | modem |
| 01:07.50 | concept10 | norc, i know what python is, but you have to understand the pros and cons of using a so-called interpreted language... |
| 01:07.56 | Reiser_X | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6 2007-01-30 20:58 a |
| 01:07.56 | Reiser_X | drwxr-xr-x 2 x x 4096 2006-12-24 22:52 Desktop |
| 01:07.57 | eldowan | dvs: I can't believe it didn't make the room topic |
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| 01:08.14 | dvs | eldowan: yeah, tell me about it. ;-) |
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| 01:08.19 | rahul | concept10: there are no benefits, really, to an "interpreted language" |
| 01:08.21 | concept10 | Did you guys see Bill Gates on the Daily SHow? |
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| 01:08.27 | Reiser_X | i used ls -l /mnt/home |
| 01:08.30 | concept10 | rahul, are you kidding me? |
| 01:08.32 | hobz | damn, I miss cable |
| 01:08.33 | rahul | concept10: nope. |
| 01:08.39 | eldowan | Reiser_X: root doesn't have write access. try this. chmod 700 /mnt/home/a |
| 01:08.40 | linux_user400354 | hello, im using gnome-screensaver now instead of xscreensaver, but it is having an extra problem. the screensaver comes on while in a full screen game. ive tried scripts to pause it and they were not working, but it should be able to work the same as xscreensaver and see that i am using the computer to play a full screen game. |
| 01:08.44 | eldowan | Reiser_X: then ls -l /mnt/home again |
| 01:08.47 | jelly-home | dvs: I see they cut out DebianFS |
| 01:08.49 | concept10 | rahul, you have lost your mind |
| 01:08.53 | rahul | concept10: you just save a little time recompiling a function when you redefine it |
| 01:08.58 | dvs | heh |
| 01:09.03 | rahul | concept10: on the order of a fraction of a second |
| 01:09.25 | concept10 | rahul, a little time? thats it? hehahahaa! |
| 01:09.27 | rahul | (much shorter than the time it took to EDIT that function) |
| 01:09.45 | rahul | concept10: a typical function should take something like half a second to compile. |
| 01:09.48 | rahul | at most/. |
| 01:09.57 | concept10 | rahul, what about web programming? |
| 01:10.11 | rahul | concept10: what does that have to do with anything? |
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| 01:10.19 | eldowan | Reiser_X: let me know how that turned out. |
| 01:10.20 | rahul | and what is this gibberish term you use? |
| 01:10.32 | jelly-home | rahul: ever heard of "fast prototyping" or "proof of concept" concepts? :-) |
| 01:10.33 | rahul | "web programming" is dumping text to a socket. |
| 01:10.34 | Reiser_X | well |
| 01:10.37 | darthxaher | has anyone lately been able 2 run compiz in sid? im having some problems. |
| 01:10.40 | rahul | jelly-home: I compile when I do that |
| 01:10.41 | Reiser_X | i use 700 in PC B |
| 01:10.54 | Reiser_X | in genny directory |
| 01:10.56 | rahul | jelly-home: mostly because the keystrokes are easier :P |
| 01:11.02 | concept10 | rahul, well, I disagree my friend, I have been working on python and ruby apps (web) and its so great to be able to make a change and reload |
| 01:11.08 | rahul | jelly-home: it takes as long to compile the function as it does to kit the key |
| 01:11.09 | eldowan | Reiser_X: I don't understand |
| 01:11.15 | Reiser_X | ok |
| 01:11.16 | Supaplex | compiz was designed to annoy all the newhotness wannabes |
| 01:11.18 | rahul | concept10: I do that by compiling. |
| 01:11.36 | Reiser_X | in PC B, i use chmod 700 in /home directory |
| 01:11.47 | concept10 | rahul, well, you go ahead, sir.. I do that by pressing refresh |
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| 01:11.52 | rahul | concept10: I recompile a function I want to change while I'm in the debugger. |
| 01:11.54 | jelly-home | rahul: your module dependencies setup are only to be applauded |
| 01:12.03 | sorl_ | i ussued halt to my server in a data center, now its halted :) |
| 01:12.07 | rahul | jelly-home: module deps? |
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| 01:12.18 | rahul | jelly-home: I don't need to rely on those to redefine a function. it's just a function. |
| 01:12.26 | jelly-home | rahul: which language? |
| 01:12.28 | rahul | jelly-home: I only need to worry about deps when I redefine a language |
| 01:12.31 | rahul | jelly-home: lisp |
| 01:12.37 | concept10 | rahul, this argument is silly anyway, because im not a experienced c/c++ programmer |
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| 01:12.58 | rahul | concept10: I don't see what c/c++ has to do with this |
| 01:13.04 | jelly-home | rahul: ah, there's the rub |
| 01:13.12 | concept10 | rahul, my first point was that python is good enough for gui apps |
| 01:13.16 | Zarephath | Well that worked..heheh |
| 01:13.29 | norc | concept10: im just trying to avoid python where ever I can.. |
| 01:13.33 | abrotman | sorl_: and? |
| 01:13.44 | concept10 | norc, forget that, avoid Mono |
| 01:13.49 | rahul | concept10: shrug, I get more data types and more speed with a compiler for free. |
| 01:13.56 | jelly-home | rahul: most other languages don't compile that easily |
| 01:14.03 | rahul | jelly-home: that's their problem |
| 01:14.09 | rahul | newfangled crap... |
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| 01:14.15 | lindenle | Can someone tell me how to use ppp on my cell phone |
| 01:14.18 | concept10 | rahul, how many data types do you need? |
| 01:14.20 | stew | can someone just mention sml or ocaml so we can invoke a godwin corollary |
| 01:14.27 | rahul | concept10: as many as my target problem has |
| 01:14.41 | rahul | stew: CharminTheMoose |
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| 01:14.47 | rahul | oh wait, that's "a" camel. |
| 01:14.56 | Reiser_X | eldowan |
| 01:15.12 | sorl_ | abrotman, :) well i thought it would be possible to start it from the web panel... |
| 01:15.23 | linux_user400354 | why does gnome-screensaver-command -i not give me my prompt back. then what is it useful for? |
| 01:15.30 | abrotman | sorl_: it's off |
| 01:15.37 | concept10 | rahul, and another point is productivity with interpreted languages, and readability of the code |
| 01:15.48 | rahul | concept10: B.S. |
| 01:16.00 | concept10 | rahul, there are so many great things about python and ruby |
| 01:16.03 | eldowan | Reiser_X: you did the chmod? now ls -l /mnt/home |
| 01:16.08 | rahul | concept10: the immaturity of the implementation does not increase productivity or readability. |
| 01:16.21 | jelly-home | concept10: dude, he's using lisp. ruby has 60-80% of the features. |
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| 01:16.37 | Reiser_X | results |
| 01:16.38 | sorl_ | abrotman, is that custom behavior on a remote dedicated server? |
| 01:16.39 | Reiser_X | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6 2007-01-30 20:58 a |
| 01:16.39 | Reiser_X | drwxr-xr-x 2 x x 4096 2006-12-24 22:52 Desktop |
| 01:16.44 | rahul | python and ruby just took a small subset of the features of lisp and removed the compiler and customizability. |
| 01:16.46 | concept10 | jelly-home, and 80 percent more )))))))))))))) |
| 01:16.54 | jelly-home | ... at least that's what I read somewhere in a flame. |
| 01:17.05 | concept10 | meh |
| 01:17.22 | abrotman | sorl_: just hvae someone jog down there and hit the power button |
| 01:17.25 | concept10 | okay, do you guys remember the jabber conversation earlier? |
| 01:17.25 | rahul | and there's a lisp library to compile python |
| 01:17.34 | eldowan | Reiser_X: as root on PC A, chmod 744 /mnt/home/a; ls -lh /mnt/home/a |
| 01:17.40 | rahul | http://trac.common-lisp.net/clpython/ |
| 01:17.57 | jelly-home | rahul: so, would you use lisp to create a music app for Gnome? |
| 01:18.01 | norc | 02:15 < concept10> rahul, and another point is productivity with interpreted languages, and readability of the code < Wasn't perl one of the best languages to write obfuscated code? *shrugs* |
| 01:18.08 | rahul | jelly-home: I would never use gnome. |
| 01:18.08 | Reiser_X | Read only file system |
| 01:18.12 | rahul | jelly-home: or gtk |
| 01:18.16 | Reiser_X | can change permission |
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| 01:18.31 | rahul | jelly-home: gtk is too limiting. demented gtk_init() |
| 01:18.31 | eldowan | isn't lisp a language that was created *long* ago before the machines at the time could handle it? |
| 01:18.35 | jelly-home | rahul: then this conv. isn't really relevant to the original question anyway |
| 01:18.37 | rahul | eldowan: sure. |
| 01:18.42 | concept10 | norc, now perl is a different beast |
| 01:18.44 | linux_user400354 | why does gnome-screensaver-command -i not give me my prompt back. then what is it useful for? |
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| 01:18.55 | rahul | jelly-home: but you could do better in lisp than in most other languages. |
| 01:19.08 | w0rd55 | is there an option for grub to do a "1 time boot" of a kernel for a remote kernel recompile? |
| 01:19.14 | abrotman | linux_user400354: stop repeating please |
| 01:19.18 | rahul | jelly-home: if anyone cared to create bindings that actually worked instead of getting fed up of the limitations of gtk :P |
| 01:19.19 | eldowan | Reiser_X: look in /etc/exports on PC B, and do you have (ro) or (rw)? don't just answer, actually look. |
| 01:19.19 | stew | w0rd55: man grub-reboot |
| 01:19.31 | w0rd55 | in case it fails boot the 1st time I'd like it to default to the previous kern |
| 01:19.39 | concept10 | jabber.subscription_requests do |friend, presence| |
| 01:19.39 | concept10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.39 | concept10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.40 | Reiser_X | (rw) |
| 01:19.42 | jelly-home | rahul: there's something to be said about reusing code that's already there |
| 01:19.48 | concept10 | who cant read that? |
| 01:19.56 | rahul | jelly-home: tell that to the gtk people |
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| 01:20.03 | jelly-home | heh |
| 01:20.18 | eldowan | Reiser_X: can root write to /home/x on PC B? |
| 01:20.20 | abrotman | concept10: it's oooogly |
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| 01:20.31 | rahul | what the hell is |friend, presence|? |
| 01:20.32 | stew | w0rd55: i don't know that it works 100% though |
| 01:20.34 | concept10 | try that in c/c++ |
| 01:20.41 | Reiser_X | yes |
| 01:20.49 | rahul | and what is #{? |
| 01:20.50 | Reiser_X | root in PC B can write |
| 01:21.02 | Reiser_X | but root in PC A can write in PC B |
| 01:21.06 | jelly-home | looks like uglified python to me (cause I don't know ruby;) |
| 01:21.09 | stew | linux_user400354: what does "apt-cache policy gnome-screensaver" say for Installed: ? |
| 01:21.10 | Reiser_X | but root in PC A can't write in PC B |
| 01:21.21 | eldowan | rahul: I would guess the hash, and a curly bracket. :D |
| 01:21.23 | rahul | is || a destructuring operaotr? |
| 01:21.25 | rahul | heh |
| 01:21.28 | rahul | curly hash? |
| 01:21.39 | jelly-home | }#) |
| 01:21.42 | eldowan | rahul: :D |
| 01:21.57 | linux_user400354 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.59 | eldowan | Reiser_X: what command on PC A did you use to mount the nfs share? |
| 01:22.23 | stew | linux_user400354: debian doesn't have 2.16, and wouldn't put debian1 in the revision string |
| 01:22.33 | concept10 | That code is saying, for every subscription request, print Recieved update from this friend and show presence |
| 01:22.35 | stew | linux_user400354: are you sure it doesn't say 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 ? |
| 01:22.36 | rahul | (loop for (friend presence) in (jabber-subscription-requests) do (format t "Received presence update from ~a: ~a" friend presence")) |
| 01:22.45 | abrotman | i don't even have a gnome-screensaver package .. |
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| 01:22.59 | stew | (seeing that 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 is the current edgy version) |
| 01:23.04 | Reiser_X | mount 192.168.1.101:/home/genny /mnt/home |
| 01:23.13 | concept10 | rahul, dont spam the channel with that horrendous code :) |
| 01:23.16 | stew | linux_user400354: as i've told you several times before, you should be in #ubuntu for questions with ubuntu |
| 01:23.31 | abrotman | it's not even that fversion in experimental |
| 01:23.35 | rahul | concept10: right... |
| 01:23.48 | concept10 | what in the crap is ~a: |
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| 01:23.57 | rahul | concept10: ~a means to format aesthetically. |
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| 01:24.06 | rahul | concept10: same thing as your #{} |
| 01:24.16 | rahul | I assume, because it's just gibberish to me |
| 01:24.22 | concept10 | rahul, you need to run ~a: on the entire code block |
| 01:24.22 | eldowan | Reiser_X: umount /mnt/home. then mount it again, does the terminal output anything? |
| 01:24.29 | rahul | concept10: wtf does that mean? |
| 01:24.57 | Reiser_X | no |
| 01:25.06 | eldowan | Reiser_X: now try writing again. |
| 01:25.12 | concept10 | rahul, bring some aesthetics to that ugly code :) |
| 01:25.21 | eldowan | rahul: colorize it! |
| 01:25.22 | Reiser_X | Denied Permission |
| 01:25.23 | rahul | concept10: right.. and #{} is so aesthetic |
| 01:25.34 | rahul | concept10: I'm just guessing as to what your random syntax does |
| 01:25.36 | concept10 | rahul, its not so bad |
| 01:25.40 | norc | Is there a way to install also the suggested packages automatically? |
| 01:25.44 | rahul | concept10: for all I know, it's lisp code :) |
| 01:25.57 | rahul | norc: it's an apt preference |
| 01:25.58 | eldowan | norc: --recommends? |
| 01:26.15 | karsten | where are a package's conffiles noted? |
| 01:26.20 | abrotman | eldowan: recommends != suggests |
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| 01:26.28 | Reiser_X | sorry |
| 01:26.28 | stew | karsten: /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.conffiles |
| 01:26.44 | rahul | concept10: honestly, that code is very strange. |
| 01:26.46 | norc | rahul: mhm, thanks |
| 01:26.48 | concept10 | rahul, I want to learn lisp myself, I have been watching these MIT and Univ of California (berkley) videos |
| 01:26.50 | eldowan | abrotman: got you |
| 01:27.08 | rahul | concept10: oh, they won't teach you lisp. they'll teach you scheme, which is a very limited language. |
| 01:27.14 | eldowan | Reiser_X: I don't think I can provide any more assistance. restate your problem for the channel, and hopefully someone else will be able3 to help you more. |
| 01:27.30 | jelly-home | ( hate (i lisp_syntax) ) |
| 01:27.32 | Reiser_X | ok |
| 01:27.34 | rahul | concept10: some of the things they talk about will be helpful, but some will just be boring, confusing crap |
| 01:27.39 | Reiser_X | let me do some test |
| 01:27.44 | rahul | jelly-home: I just change syntax when I don't like it |
| 01:27.46 | Azar | hahahaha Define #AESTETHICS on the header |
| 01:27.51 | karsten | stew: Yeah, that's what I thought. Just installd libnss-ldap, it asked some conf questions, but there are no conffiles listed. Trying to track down where they went. |
| 01:27.52 | concept10 | rahul, I agree, they are boring |
| 01:28.02 | rahul | concept10: www.gigamonkeys.com |
| 01:28.10 | speyer | does exim4 has mysql support build in ? |
| 01:28.20 | concept10 | rahul, then I moved on to some Java lectures (hate em) |
| 01:28.22 | Plantain | Where's the configuration file for iptables? |
| 01:28.29 | stew | Plantain: there isn't one |
| 01:28.37 | norc | Plantain: you define your rules wherever you want |
| 01:28.44 | stew | karsten: check the .postinst then |
| 01:29.06 | rahul | norc: actually, you should be using aptitude instead of apt-get, and then you can set the pref in the prefs screen |
| 01:29.11 | concept10 | rahul, thanks man |
| 01:29.20 | stew | Reiser_X: "man exports" search for "squash" |
| 01:29.26 | rahul | apt-get is not really intended for real use. it was just a temporary hack. |
| 01:29.29 | Plantain | D: I'm meant to be editing /var/lib/iptables/active, does that no longer exist or something? |
| 01:29.31 | rahul | (like Xt) |
| 01:29.32 | Azar | rahul how you let him say your code is ugly? |
| 01:29.33 | norc | rahul: ah.. that could be a good idea.. tried avoiding aptitude until now, heh :-) |
| 01:29.34 | norc | oh? |
| 01:29.51 | rahul | Azar: I couldn't get over there fast enough to break his keyboard. sorry. |
| 01:29.51 | stew | Plantain: that no longer exists |
| 01:29.53 | Reiser_X | ok |
| 01:29.59 | karsten | stew: /etc/pam_ldap.conf |
| 01:30.01 | Azar | :) |
| 01:30.03 | eldowan | Reiser_X: what does ok mean? |
| 01:30.28 | Plantain | stew: so, how would I add something too it, like ":PREROUTING ACCEPT [6:1596]"? |
| 01:30.39 | lindenle | Does anyone know how to get ppp to work to ISP over a cell phone? I can get it to dial but i always get busy signal, if I do it by hand no busy signal. |
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| 01:30.58 | Reiser_X | well |
| 01:31.13 | stew | Plantain: create a script that runs iptables directly to set it up the way you want, the list that script in a "pre-up" line in /etc/network/interfaces (man interfaces) |
| 01:31.22 | jelly-home | Plantain: the init script was removed because people complained, but you can put it back if you wish |
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| 01:31.57 | Reiser_X | no_root_squash is used to: root in the client machine will have the same level of access to the files on the system as root on the server |
| 01:32.12 | jelly-home | Plantain: take a look in /usr/share/doc/iptables/examples/ |
| 01:32.17 | Plantain | jelly-home: so just create another one? |
| 01:32.21 | mfrisch | I love my ISP Fetched 833MB in 6h50m18s (33.8kB/s) its like no time went by |
| 01:32.22 | concept10 | I guess its just me, I can read code better than I can write it, but when I come across something that is nasty, I cringe and look for something better. I really like python and ruby because of this. They are easy to read |
| 01:32.46 | eldowan | mfrisch: thats pretty quick. |
| 01:32.52 | dvs | mfrisch: get a new modem. ;-) |
| 01:32.55 | Azar | concept10: you should have read that article link I put it earler in here |
| 01:32.57 | jelly-home | Plantain: what stew suggests is probably more correct (running iptables on ifup) |
| 01:33.29 | rahul | concept10: there should be some newlines in that code I wrote to increase readability |
| 01:33.29 | mfrisch | dvs this is CABLE |
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| 01:33.30 | dvs | OH? |
| 01:33.33 | Plantain | jelly-home: I don't know how to do that :P |
| 01:33.39 | mfrisch | yes oh |
| 01:33.45 | eldowan | mfrisch: everyone knows that cables are out of date, you need internet-by-wire |
| 01:33.52 | concept10 | Azar, i dont see it |
| 01:33.56 | karsten | stew: ... along with a few other spots. |
| 01:33.57 | dvs | mfrisch: get new cables. ;-) |
| 01:34.06 | rahul | (loop for (friend presence) in (jabber-subscription-requests) |
| 01:34.09 | rahul | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.12 | norc | Mhm.. meh... I shouldn't use xterm anymore.. whats the smallest terminal emulator around? |
| 01:34.14 | rahul | bleh, missed a space |
| 01:34.26 | jelly-home | Plantain: well, I took the old init script, put it back in /etc/init.d/iptables and added some rc.d links. |
| 01:34.28 | karsten | mfrisch: Its all tubes! Senator Stevens was sending an email! |
| 01:34.30 | rahul | ah, there's an extra #\" in there, too |
| 01:34.34 | mfrisch | dvs I gonna get dsl or something |
| 01:34.38 | karsten | norc: nc |
| 01:34.47 | concept10 | There should be a feature in IRC that allows you to filter the persons name and just see the posts they made |
| 01:34.48 | rahul | we go all the way / do we need the pain / waking up in a black tomorrow |
| 01:34.57 | rahul | I've been there before / was it just wasted time? |
| 01:34.59 | karsten | norc: ... rxvt / nvt likely. Actually, nc isn't a term emulo but might be a remote shell. |
| 01:35.02 | jelly-home | concept10: like /lastlog in xchat? |
| 01:35.13 | rahul | concept10: /last <string> |
| 01:35.21 | raf256 | I hate games that fuck up entire X session |
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| 01:35.24 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@bsm215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] by stew |
| 01:35.24 | *** mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
| 01:35.25 | karsten | concept10: /lastlog -file foo <nick> |
| 01:35.29 | Azar | concept10: How To Become a Better Programmer by Not Programming http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000543.html |
| 01:35.30 | norc | karsten: mhm.. nvt isnt in the debian repos? |
| 01:36.01 | Plantain | jelly-home: this is what I've been told to add to that file(http://pastebin.ca/333693), is there any other way to add it? I don't understand IP tables |
| 01:36.28 | concept10 | so someone thought of that already |
| 01:36.32 | concept10 | thanks guys |
| 01:36.34 | jelly-home | banned, not kicked |
| 01:36.40 | jelly-home | shaken, ... |
| 01:36.44 | concept10 | I guess im not the only genius in here |
| 01:36.47 | karsten | ... not stirred. |
| 01:36.48 | Azar | raf256: might be that you are using a bloated desktop and apps in X? |
| 01:36.54 | rahul | bashing at the keyboard is no way to write good software, yes :) |
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| 01:37.04 | rahul | see also: guru mediatation |
| 01:37.08 | karsten | norc: Might be dead. I remember it a long, long time ago. |
| 01:37.09 | rahul | erg |
| 01:37.11 | rahul | meditation |
| 01:37.15 | karsten | rahul: error. |
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| 01:37.30 | karsten | rahul: Hola Amiga! |
| 01:37.35 | rahul | !! |
| 01:37.35 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 01:37.52 | rahul | dpkg: you'll be my csh prompt when I give you that dress! |
| 01:37.52 | Azar | you know, I thing the guy in the article is right: there are forever good coders who got the skill, and coders who .. code but will never improve |
| 01:37.54 | rahul | I mean... |
| 01:37.58 | norc | karsten: mhm thanks anyway.. |
| 01:38.12 | rahul | Azar: most definitely |
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| 01:38.22 | norc | maybe I should write my own small terminal emulator.. I dont a big xterm with thousands of features im never going to use |
| 01:38.31 | norc | s/dont/dont want/ |
| 01:38.41 | rahul | norc: someone had that idea already |
| 01:38.49 | norc | rahul: and wrote exactly what? |
| 01:38.58 | rahul | norc: there's no one exact result |
| 01:38.58 | Azar | like me, I tried until I realized I am learning stuff but I will never be able to build something on my learnings |
| 01:39.09 | norc | Ronin: oh well, maybe you can give me some suggestions? :) |
| 01:39.11 | rahul | rxvt, nxterm, aterm, Eterm, etc |
| 01:39.35 | norc | mkay.. thanks :) |
| 01:39.38 | GNP_ | can debian be run through a gui interface or does it all have to be done through command line? |
| 01:39.39 | rahul | apt-cache showpkg x-terminal-emulator |
| 01:39.39 | concept10 | Azar, nice article. |
| 01:39.44 | rahul | there are literally dozens |
| 01:39.55 | rahul | GNP_: you can run commands in a gui |
| 01:39.57 | Azar | concept10: yep it answered some of my hidden questions |
| 01:39.59 | mike-e | rahul likes m-term, it's the terminal metallica uses. |
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| 01:40.09 | eldowan | Azar: a nice article indeed |
| 01:40.38 | concept10 | Azar, im not really passionate about coding. Im passionate about the possibilities of the Linux platform. This leads me to coding. |
| 01:40.46 | Azar | back like four years ago I was burning with the desire to learn C and build stuff, now I realized I am not having what it takes |
| 01:40.59 | rahul | Azar: C is not an easy language to learn |
| 01:41.08 | rahul | Azar: few people have what it takes to write C code |
| 01:41.24 | Azar | rahul: I found it pleasant and at the beginning as hard as learning to use Debian Woody :) |
| 01:41.33 | concept10 | I have just started to read the C books Ive had in my closet sine 1994 |
| 01:41.36 | GNP_ | will it boot to gui or do I have to start gui from command line after logging in? |
| 01:41.51 | norc | GNP_: dependes on how you set up your machine.. |
| 01:41.52 | rahul | Azar: eh, comparatively, I'd say it's many times harder than debian potato |
| 01:42.01 | Azar | rahul: I would rather differ, if someone really wants to learn C will find it (through hard learning work) that is really pleasant |
| 01:42.14 | rahul | Azar: not if they're trying to build large programs in it |
| 01:42.20 | GNP_ | well then I guess I set it up wrong hehe |
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| 01:42.51 | concept10 | Azar, but as I was saying, im passionate about Linux/Unix platforms, but it amazes me how many parts there are to it. Its a big world. |
| 01:42.56 | Azar | rahul: I would dare to compare C vs C++ as Debian Sarge and Debian Sid |
| 01:42.57 | rahul | Azar: and I can usually get more speed out of Lisp than C. |
| 01:43.07 | rahul | Azar: C++ is ubuntu |
| 01:43.17 | Azar | speed who cares? elegance and stability |
| 01:43.27 | Azar | haha yes |
| 01:43.30 | rahul | Azar: oh, I get more elegance and stability out of lisp, too |
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| 01:43.46 | rahul | a HELL of a lot more stability in less time. |
| 01:43.56 | rahul | Azar: lisp is about making it work, then making it fast. |
| 01:44.01 | stoned | lisp |
| 01:44.02 | rahul | Azar: C is about making it fast, then making it work. |
| 01:44.13 | concept10 | rahul, you like smalltalk? |
| 01:44.15 | stoned | that sounds like its something from dumb and dumber'er |
| 01:44.19 | Azar | rahul: stability depends on the coder. Sloppy coder will always create clowns |
| 01:44.22 | rahul | Azar: but I can give you a program that gives an incorrect answer faster than it can get the input |
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| 01:44.34 | stoned | concept10: whats up man |
| 01:44.42 | rahul | Azar: sure, but not all coders like to waste time making something stable instead of just having it work |
| 01:44.52 | concept10 | stoned, hows it going? |
| 01:44.57 | Azar | rahul: you speak like a gentoobie :) |
| 01:44.58 | rahul | concept10: eh, it doesn't provide much |
| 01:45.03 | concept10 | stoned, I was looking for you yesterday |
| 01:45.06 | stoned | its going man, its going. I'm trying to go with it |
| 01:45.06 | rahul | Azar: C is like gentoo |
| 01:45.15 | Azar | blasphemy! |
| 01:45.18 | rahul | Azar: debian is like lisp :) |
| 01:45.20 | stoned | 666 |
| 01:45.20 | dvs | exactly! |
| 01:45.21 | Azar | C is a classic symphony |
| 01:45.34 | stoned | Azar: some symphonies sucked man |
| 01:45.37 | stoned | ;) |
| 01:45.44 | eldowan | stoned: feeling better? |
| 01:45.49 | concept10 | stoned, I have VSTs running with gstreamer |
| 01:45.52 | rahul | Azar: C is a classic symphony that is created by typing the .wav file by hand. |
| 01:45.53 | Azar | heh how many heard of lisp? huh? |
| 01:45.53 | stoned | eldowan: hey bro! much better |
| 01:46.00 | eldowan | stoned: when's the moving date? |
| 01:46.05 | stoned | I dunno man |
| 01:46.09 | stoned | 10th is my last day here |
| 01:46.23 | Azar | stoned is moving in with me |
| 01:46.24 | dvs | where? |
| 01:46.28 | dvs | ok? |
| 01:46.33 | stoned | I put in my 1 month move out notice on the jan 10 |
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| 01:46.36 | rahul | wow, that relationship progressed fast |
| 01:46.37 | Plantain | jelly-home: this is what I've been told to add to add this (http://pastebin.ca/333693) to /var/lib/iptables/active, which is obselete, so is there any other way to add it to iptables? I don't understand iptables at all :< |
| 01:46.37 | stoned | minus the |
| 01:46.38 | eldowan | Azar: I didn't know you lived around here :D |
| 01:46.53 | Azar | eldowan: no, he is coming down here in L.A. |
| 01:47.00 | dvs | stoned: don't do it! ;-) |
| 01:47.02 | stoned | Azar: unless you have giant jugs, tiny waise and a long legs.. and not a penis.. then I'm in |
| 01:47.03 | rahul | Azar: who is buying who the ring? |
| 01:47.04 | Guerin | Azar: loooong time |
| 01:47.06 | Plantain | how'd I mess that up :< |
| 01:47.08 | rahul | when it gets to that time |
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| 01:47.18 | Azar | hi Guerin! :) |
| 01:47.25 | eldowan | I jut want to know who wears the pants... |
| 01:47.25 | concept10 | ahh, a connection in debian, nice! |
| 01:47.26 | TimeX | I cannot start x as common user |
| 01:47.32 | stoned | pants! |
| 01:47.36 | TimeX | hark: are you there? |
| 01:47.37 | Azar | ah so stoned is looking for a bride |
| 01:47.43 | stoned | Azar: got one |
| 01:47.44 | Gnea | TimeX: why not? |
| 01:47.46 | stew | TimeX: you can start as root but not user? |
| 01:47.48 | stoned | Gnea: ! |
| 01:47.52 | Azar | haha |
| 01:47.54 | Caelum | why the heck does samba make everything +x |
| 01:47.54 | Gnea | stoned: !! |
| 01:47.59 | stoned | whas up man dude homie bro |
| 01:48.04 | TimeX | user haven't authorized |
| 01:48.10 | Gnea | Caelum: because that's what it does unless you tell it to do otherwise |
| 01:48.11 | TimeX | stew: exactly |
| 01:48.12 | Azar | damn you made it sound like Gnea is your bride |
| 01:48.19 | Gnea | uh, no |
| 01:48.20 | stew | TimeX: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 01:48.24 | norc | Im really starting to love debian.. everything works fine.. /me spews on Gentoo ... |
| 01:48.33 | Gnea | stoned: chillin' |
| 01:48.33 | TimeX | stew: on the way |
| 01:48.40 | Azar | so the lisp coders say when they move to C |
| 01:49.11 | GNP_ | well Im a total n00b at linux and debian I ran the netinstall and thought I told it to download all the extras but its still booting into comand line interface how can I tell if I even have the gui package installed? |
| 01:49.27 | rahul | GNP_: there is no one gui program |
| 01:49.29 | TimeX | I was wondering if the order is OK: install fvwm before x-window-system-core |
| 01:49.30 | Caelum | Gnea: how do you change that? |
| 01:49.30 | dvs | !install kde |
| 01:49.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 01:49.36 | abrotman | GNP_: not by default .. what do you want to install ? |
| 01:49.41 | Gnea | Caelum: what are you using to configure samba with? |
| 01:49.41 | rahul | TimeX: doesn't make a difference |
| 01:49.42 | stoned | GNP_: install Xorg |
| 01:49.45 | stoned | !install xorg |
| 01:49.48 | stoned | !install x |
| 01:49.48 | dpkg | well, install xf4 is apt-get install read-edid mdetect discover; apt-get install x-window-system-core (plus whatever window manager you like, etc.), or ask me about <set up x> or <drxx> or <xorg> |
| 01:49.53 | abrotman | wtf |
| 01:49.56 | rahul | TimeX: order of installing packages making a diff is a bug. |
| 01:50.06 | abrotman | GNP_: which desktop would you like to install ? |
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| 01:50.09 | rahul | fftw |
| 01:50.15 | dvs | !ping |
| 01:50.15 | dpkg | pong |
| 01:50.19 | abrotman | !tell Cacciari about root |
| 01:50.23 | Caelum | Gnea: ehh...vim smb.con . Should I be using swat? |
| 01:50.25 | GNP_ | I want a home server to host a site for me to learn/play with but want to be able to run it through a gui system |
| 01:50.28 | stoned | GNP_: then after X is installed you can chose kde, or gnome, or xfce, or just a window manager |
| 01:50.34 | TimeX | stew: I don't install x11-common |
| 01:50.36 | Gnea | Caelum: yeah, swat's awesome |
| 01:50.37 | rahul | swat... eeeevol |
| 01:50.39 | Gnea | !swat |
| 01:50.40 | dpkg | i guess swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with, or apt-get install swat, enable it in /etc/inetd.conf if necessary, '/etc/init.d/inetd reload', then point your web browser to http://localhost:901/ |
| 01:50.41 | dvs | GNP_: a web site? |
| 01:50.46 | abrotman | GNP_: go look at xwinman.org .. choose one and tell us which you'd like to use |
| 01:50.58 | stoned | GNP_: I would just type apt-get install x-window-system-core and then apt-get install kde |
| 01:51.01 | Caelum | Gnea: I'll try that thanks |
| 01:51.03 | stoned | I recommend kde or xfce |
| 01:51.06 | stoned | gnome is horrible imo |
| 01:51.07 | GNP_ | dvs yes I want it to host a website |
| 01:51.14 | stew | TimeX: look at /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config then |
| 01:51.15 | TimeX | but I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common and set the console user to startx, but yesterday is OK, today something goes wrong |
| 01:51.18 | rahul | I recommend neither |
| 01:51.22 | TimeX | stew: OK |
| 01:51.28 | stoned | rahul: go eat ratpoison |
| 01:51.32 | stoned | s/eat/use |
| 01:51.32 | rahul | eew |
| 01:51.32 | stoned | :D |
| 01:51.47 | stoned | j/k |
| 01:51.48 | rahul | stoned: that's sick. |
| 01:51.52 | stoned | no it isn't |
| 01:51.55 | TimeX | allow_users=console |
| 01:51.58 | stew | TimeX: oh, ok xserver-common was what you wanted instead of x11-common, console users is what I would recommend |
| 01:51.58 | rahul | using ratpoison, I mean |
| 01:51.58 | stoned | ratpoison is a good software |
| 01:52.02 | rahul | eating it isn't bad. |
| 01:52.08 | rahul | (comparatively) |
| 01:52.09 | stoned | lol |
| 01:52.16 | stew | TimeX: are you actually on console? or are you trying to start X via ssh or something? |
| 01:52.20 | rahul | !penixstrike stoned |
| 01:52.21 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking stoned to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
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| 01:52.27 | stoned | dude.. no! |
| 01:52.33 | TimeX | stew: right, but I cannot startx as a common user |
| 01:52.37 | rahul | what? you're not in the mood? |
| 01:52.42 | stoned | go away. |
| 01:52.43 | stew | TimeX: on console? not ssh? |
| 01:52.46 | rahul | heh |
| 01:52.48 | stoned | :D |
| 01:52.53 | TimeX | stew: sure |
| 01:52.56 | rahul | shit I better go. you're right |
| 01:53.04 | GNP_ | Ive used kde on linux boot discs playing around a bit |
| 01:53.06 | Azar | TimeX: but you can start X as root? |
| 01:53.16 | stew | TimeX: what is the error you get? "user not authorized..."? or something else? |
| 01:53.21 | TimeX | stew: even if I startx as root, I can only get a gray background with a big X |
| 01:53.31 | TimeX | Azar: I think I can |
| 01:53.36 | Azar | :) but ofcourse you get a gray bg |
| 01:53.38 | norc | TimeX: time to (re)write your .xinitrc ;) |
| 01:53.49 | TimeX | stew: right, user not authorized and error number |
| 01:54.01 | Azar | you install and use "feh" then get an image of your like and use feh to put the bg |
| 01:54.03 | stew | hmm, that certainly sounds like Xwrapper.config |
| 01:54.11 | stoned | GNP_: I use kde and its beautiful and featureful and for a midrange system its not bloatware |
| 01:54.16 | TimeX | norc: wut do you mean by .xinitrc |
| 01:54.25 | stew | TimeX: you don't need to touch .xinitrc |
| 01:54.33 | TimeX | stew: but the configuration file is OK |
| 01:54.33 | Guerin | !wut |
| 01:54.33 | dpkg | hmm... wut is a lamer way of saying what |
| 01:54.35 | norc | oh >_> |
| 01:54.54 | stoned | wut in hindi means curve |
| 01:54.56 | stoned | :/ |
| 01:54.58 | norc | !dpkg |
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| 01:55.02 | norc | mhm... |
| 01:55.04 | stoned | or roll |
| 01:55.05 | TimeX | stew: right, I don't think it has anything to do with .xinitrc, because yesterday I did as you told me just now, everything is OK |
| 01:55.17 | TimeX | stew: all I did yesterday is reboot the system |
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| 01:56.00 | TimeX | I startx as root |
| 01:56.09 | Azar | not good |
| 01:56.28 | TimeX | stew: are you still there? |
| 01:56.30 | Azar | it should be backwards: blocked X in root and granted X access to user |
| 01:57.15 | TimeX | Azar: are you talking to me? |
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| 01:57.50 | Azar | TimeX: yes |
| 01:57.56 | pablo_ | hi, my via unichrome card works with vesa but not with via driver, is that normal? |
| 01:58.19 | TimeX | Azar: but I cannot startx as user although I know it is no good to start it as root |
| 01:58.21 | stew | TimeX: just for fun, try setting "anybody" in there instead of 'console' |
| 01:58.37 | GNP_ | hmmm when I ran netinstall it asked me to set up a user but it says that user is not root? what is the sysadmins user name by default? |
| 01:58.48 | TimeX | stew: just for fun? |
| 01:58.56 | Azar | GNP_: root is sysadmin |
| 01:59.09 | Gnea | GNP_: root is default, you need to name it something else |
| 01:59.18 | abrotman | stoned: are you biased ? |
| 01:59.21 | dvs | GNP_: but don't use root on a day to day basis |
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| 01:59.38 | stoned | abrotman: of course.. Who isn't? |
| 01:59.44 | TimeX | OK, can anybody tell the right order if I want a desktop |
| 02:00.07 | stew | TimeX: just try it |
| 02:00.10 | abrotman | stoned: jesus! |
| 02:00.19 | stoned | abrotman: yes my child? |
| 02:00.25 | abrotman | you are not even close |
| 02:00.32 | stoned | wtf are you on about man? |
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| 02:01.49 | dvs | stoned: a bot, man. |
| 02:01.55 | dvs | that's what he's on |
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| 02:02.01 | stoned | you forgot r |
| 02:02.04 | abrotman | dvs: gonads and strive |
| 02:02.04 | stoned | a brot man |
| 02:02.09 | TimeX | stew: oK |
| 02:02.10 | abrotman | stoned: no .. he didn't |
| 02:02.13 | speyer | its volatile.debian.net repo save to be used ? |
| 02:02.15 | dvs | ahhhhh! no more! ahhhhhhhhh! |
| 02:02.20 | stoned | I'm confused |
| 02:02.24 | stoned | abrotman: go away |
| 02:02.31 | abrotman | because you can't keep up ? |
| 02:02.35 | Zarephath | I get the following error when trying to autogen e17(I have already compiled the libs) ./autogen.sh: line 9: autopoint: command not found |
| 02:02.39 | dvs | stoned: you, out of all people, don't know what a bot is? |
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| 02:02.49 | abrotman | !find autopoint sarge |
| 02:02.51 | stoned | abrotman is NOT a fucking bot! |
| 02:02.58 | abrotman | I'm a bot! |
| 02:02.59 | stoned | wha tthe fuck is wrong with you |
| 02:03.01 | stoned | no you're not |
| 02:03.07 | stoned | shut up :( |
| 02:03.20 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'autopoint' (2): (/usr/bin/autopoint) in devel/gettext ;; (/usr/share/doc/gettext-doc/autopoint.1.html) in doc/gettext-doc. |
| 02:03.31 | abrotman | Zarephath: ^^ |
| 02:03.38 | Zarephath | abrotman: Thank you... |
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| 02:04.16 | krazykit | if abrotman, the nick would be abotman |
| 02:04.29 | krazykit | uh, "were a bot" should be before that comma. |
| 02:05.44 | stoned | well what do I know right |
| 02:06.05 | stoned | I can't play music, my wife to be doesnt love me, I know nothing about computers and I'm very clueless.. and I'm dumb cuz I smoek pot |
| 02:06.10 | ice63 | abrotman: what should i install xfce or fluxbox ? |
| 02:06.13 | stoned | abrotman: why do you even chose to address me? |
| 02:06.21 | stoned | go about your own life mate |
| 02:06.24 | abrotman | ice63: that's up to you |
| 02:06.29 | abrotman | stoned: what the hell is wrong with you ? |
| 02:06.44 | abrotman | ice63: have you tried them both ? |
| 02:06.53 | GNP_ | HEY!!! smoking pot makes you smarter |
| 02:06.59 | stoned | yeh |
| 02:07.01 | ice63 | abrotman: yes i have |
| 02:07.03 | Gnurdux | by killing brain cells? |
| 02:07.04 | stoned | we're not discussing pot in here |
| 02:07.10 | abrotman | ice63: then it's obviously up to you |
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| 02:07.19 | stoned | back to #debian support topic |
| 02:07.21 | w0rd55 | I did "apt-get install pot" and it tells me package not found |
| 02:07.21 | w0rd55 | :( |
| 02:07.26 | ice63 | hmm |
| 02:07.31 | dvs | w0rd55: find a dealer |
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| 02:07.40 | abrotman | try 'apt-get install kde' .. same effect |
| 02:07.42 | w0rd55 | dvs: I added dealer to sources.list |
| 02:07.45 | stoned | !ot |
| 02:07.46 | dpkg | somebody said ot was Off topic conversation belongs in #debian-offtopic please. We don't want the channel to get cluttered with off topic discussion so people who need help are not seen. |
| 02:07.46 | dvs | heh |
| 02:07.47 | Zarephath | dvs: A repo dealer? |
| 02:07.59 | abrotman | gah! |
| 02:08.00 | dvs | Zambezi: exactly. |
| 02:08.07 | w0rd55 | k, I'm done being off topic....to easy to get banned here |
| 02:08.11 | streuner_ | hm |
| 02:08.29 | dvs | w0rd55: but azeem isn't here. ;-) |
| 02:08.48 | w0rd55 | dvs: neither is ahkbar |
| 02:09.14 | Zarephath | Ok so with my limited experience searching packages and libraries I can't find X headers and libraries..apt-cache gave me a load of possibilities...running etch/xorg |
| 02:09.39 | karsten | Zarephath: apt-cache search x.*-client |
| 02:09.45 | stew | Zarephath: what are you trying to compile? |
| 02:09.47 | Zarephath | karsten: Thanks |
| 02:09.53 | karsten | Zarephath: bbiam. |
| 02:09.56 | Zarephath | stew: e17 |
| 02:09.57 | stoned | actually wouldnt he be looking for -dev packages? |
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| 02:10.02 | GNP_ | auto detect didnt find a video driver for x server if I have an nvidia video card do I select nv? |
| 02:10.16 | stoned | GNP_: for nv is good with stuff |
| 02:10.19 | Zarephath | GNP_: Yep |
| 02:10.23 | stoned | GNP_: if you want twinview or 3d, use nvidia |
| 02:10.27 | stoned | !nvidia |
| 02:10.27 | dpkg | For a guide to NVIDIA graphics cards drivers, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder if you've done it before. DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer (ask me about <nvidia-installer>). |
| 02:10.40 | streuner_ | wOrd: you don't have obviosly not to much experience with other channels. |
| 02:10.43 | abrotman | GNP_: which nvidia card ? |
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| 02:11.06 | kritical | Does anyone know.. when using dialog.. is it possible to have a progress bar? |
| 02:11.27 | abrotman | like with wget ? |
| 02:11.51 | GNP_ | g-force mx 4000 |
| 02:11.55 | stoned | oof |
| 02:11.58 | abrotman | nv should work |
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| 02:12.43 | Azar | GNP_: I use the same one |
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| 02:14.53 | stoned | double off |
| 02:14.57 | stoned | oof* |
| 02:15.04 | stoned | GNP_: Azar get with the times |
| 02:15.10 | Azar | hehe |
| 02:15.14 | abrotman | we can't all be rich kids |
| 02:15.18 | Azar | I have a song with of offf |
| 02:15.23 | stoned | abrotman: shut the FUCK up |
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| 02:15.33 | aTypical | Hello all. |
| 02:15.35 | Azar | stoned: I like antiques, makes me feel rich |
| 02:15.43 | graytron | stoned: how do you know she doesn't love you? |
| 02:15.45 | stoned | Azar: hehe im ust playing man |
| 02:15.51 | GNP_ | this is just a junker laying around collecting dust |
| 02:16.05 | GNP_ | got through the x server config now getting kde |
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| 02:16.16 | stoned | graytron: oh she loves me fine. abrotman brought me to #debian-offtopic to tell me those things.. |
| 02:16.27 | aTypical | I'm trying to make a deb out of Sun's java. When I do I get a message "No matching plugin was found" |
| 02:16.29 | stoned | graytron: I am just wondering what hes doing wasting time talking to a dumb stoner |
| 02:16.31 | aTypical | what causes that? |
| 02:16.32 | Azar | damn the gossips channel |
| 02:16.35 | graytron | stoned: i see |
| 02:16.49 | abrotman | aTypical: which version of debian ? |
| 02:16.56 | abrotman | stoned: you're a sad little man :) |
| 02:16.57 | aTypical | abrotman, testing |
| 02:17.08 | stoned | abrotman: what ever you say buddy |
| 02:17.11 | abrotman | aTypical: java5 is already available to you in non-free |
| 02:17.19 | aTypical | Ah |
| 02:17.24 | w0rd55 | abrotman: please no anti-semitism....it's disrespectful |
| 02:17.27 | abrotman | aTypical: do you have non-free sources ? |
| 02:17.36 | aTypical | I'm not sure. |
| 02:17.41 | Guerin | w0rd55: WTF |
| 02:17.45 | abrotman | w0rd55: are you partying with stoned? |
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| 02:17.52 | curt | There's a #debian-offtopic ???? |
| 02:17.53 | Ronin | sweet jebus its cold out there tonight |
| 02:17.57 | abrotman | curt: yes |
| 02:18.01 | Azar | abrotman do you remember the guy who came here to ask for "suppositories"? I don't have the logs I wanted to show it to liable :) |
| 02:18.01 | aTypical | abrotman, no. |
| 02:18.01 | stoned | Ronin: here too |
| 02:18.02 | streuner_ | Guerin: hell, you spoke what i thought :-) |
| 02:18.04 | graytron | non-free as in nongnu.org? |
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| 02:18.06 | dvs | Ronin: not here |
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| 02:18.12 | abrotman | aTypical: do you know how to add them ? |
| 02:18.14 | aTypical | abrotman, I didn't get a url for that one. |
| 02:18.18 | abrotman | graytron: /msg dpkg non-free |
| 02:18.24 | w0rd55 | abrotman: uhm....k, plz just stop the jewish hate....it doesn't help the channel....nor free society |
| 02:18.26 | aTypical | abrotman, I've manually edited sources.list |
| 02:18.26 | abrotman | aTypical: /msg dpkg non-free |
| 02:18.32 | Guerin | w0rd55: what jewish hate? |
| 02:18.36 | abrotman | w0rd55: shut up already |
| 02:18.39 | Guerin | w0rd55: and this is funnier than you know ... |
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| 02:18.48 | streuner_ | Guerin: use /lastlog ... |
| 02:18.48 | GNP_ | looks like kde will take a while to install |
| 02:18.53 | abrotman | w0rd55: please show me where i did such a thing ... |
| 02:19.04 | streuner_ | he talking only crap |
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| 02:19.05 | Azar | hehe we got ourselves a troll... |
| 02:19.05 | stoned | w0rd55: what in the gods name are you going on about |
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| 02:19.19 | Ronin | streuner_: so basically ssdd then heh |
| 02:19.23 | Azar | Cacciari: you made it :) |
| 02:19.25 | w0rd55 | k |
| 02:19.26 | stoned | afaik abrotman might be a penis but he is not a racist |
| 02:19.28 | abrotman | seems typical for w0rd55 .. come in .. get a question answered .. then troll awhile |
| 02:19.40 | streuner_ | hm |
| 02:19.43 | w0rd55 | abrotman: negativity *tsk* *tsk* |
| 02:19.44 | streuner_ | Ronin: heh? |
| 02:19.50 | graytron | w0rd55: does your gf love you? |
| 02:19.53 | Guerin | w0rd55: negativity == anti-semitism? |
| 02:19.55 | Ronin | i thought you meant abrotman was talking heh |
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| 02:20.05 | stew | please everybody get back on topic |
| 02:20.12 | abrotman | pot .. kettle |
| 02:20.14 | w0rd55 | gaytron: I'm not sure that's an issue here.... :( please stay on topic |
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| 02:20.26 | Guerin | w0rd55: no homophobia, plz |
| 02:20.30 | stoned | how do you pronouce debian |
| 02:20.34 | w0rd55 | Guerin: typo, sorry about that |
| 02:20.36 | stoned | deebian or deb ian |
| 02:20.40 | Guerin | w0rd55: it's not good for civil society |
| 02:20.41 | devicenull | how can I configure an arbitraty process to be started when the system starts, and ideally restarted if it crashes |
| 02:20.43 | Azar | debiaan |
| 02:20.48 | Guerin | streuner_: the latter |
| 02:20.53 | Guerin | stoned: the latter |
| 02:20.54 | stew | stoned: deh bee uhn |
| 02:20.56 | stoned | ahh |
| 02:21.04 | w0rd55 | Guerin: plz, take any more concerns/questions over to #debian-offtopic, I'm more than happy to discuss there |
| 02:21.07 | stoned | I've heard it pronouned like deep with a deebian |
| 02:21.09 | stoned | anyway |
| 02:21.14 | stoned | now were on topic again |
| 02:21.18 | stoned | hehe |
| 02:21.23 | stew | stoned: ian's wife's name is deb |
| 02:21.23 | abrotman | stoned: no .. Deb and Ian Murdock |
| 02:21.25 | Guerin | w0rd55: don't try to pull that shit with me |
| 02:21.32 | stoned | abrotman: yes I kow |
| 02:21.33 | stew | Guerin: w0rd55: please give it a rest |
| 02:21.34 | Guerin | w0rd55: you're a troll, you got called, now take your lumps |
| 02:21.36 | graytron | does Deb still love Ian? |
| 02:21.37 | devicenull | I figure I can write an init.d script to start it, but I'm not sure if thats the right way |
| 02:21.39 | stoned | but people pronouce it weird |
| 02:21.44 | curt | abrotman, we all really do appriciate your help .. just thought you should know. |
| 02:21.56 | abrotman | curt: it's okay .. noone loves me ... |
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| 02:22.01 | curt | hehe |
| 02:22.03 | Ronin | abrotman: ahh poor baby |
| 02:22.04 | stoned | abrotman: thats not true |
| 02:22.06 | stoned | I love you |
| 02:22.17 | aTypical | abrotman, should this get me java5 - deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free |
| 02:22.29 | Guerin | abrotman: it's because you're a jew! |
| 02:22.34 | dvs | oh! |
| 02:22.37 | stoned | Guerin: dude |
| 02:22.41 | Ronin | heathen!!! |
| 02:22.42 | streuner_ | heh, abrotman is jewish? |
| 02:22.46 | devicenull | ok, i'm going to assume theres no way to do this |
| 02:22.46 | Guerin | stoned: :) |
| 02:22.46 | abrotman | aTypical: yep .. apt-cache search sun-java |
| 02:22.53 | stoned | lol |
| 02:23.06 | stoned | im gonna sit back and watch stew kick ya'll in the patoot |
| 02:23.11 | abrotman | streuner_: part |
| 02:23.32 | Azar | who cares? abrotman is a bon-bon |
| 02:23.40 | abrotman | eh booboo ? |
| 02:23.43 | Gnea | cinna-bon-bon! |
| 02:23.56 | Azar | bon-bon = candy |
| 02:24.01 | streuner_ | Azar: i had hard times with him, and i didn't know why... |
| 02:24.04 | stoned | bon bon == good good |
| 02:24.07 | stoned | learn some french |
| 02:24.12 | stoned | lol |
| 02:24.19 | Gnea | you know, wikipedia and dictionary.com rock |
| 02:24.30 | graytron | how does that relate to debian |
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| 02:24.38 | stoned | debian users eat bon bons |
| 02:24.42 | stoned | its related |
| 02:24.43 | stoned | trust me |
| 02:24.49 | Gnea | graytron: and you are who? |
| 02:24.52 | hobz | is that a french joke? |
| 02:24.53 | eldowan | graytron: wikipedia and dictionary help users. :D |
| 02:25.05 | abrotman | streuner_: but what would that have to do with it ? |
| 02:25.13 | graytron | Gnea: lets stick to the topic |
| 02:25.22 | Gnea | graytron: yes, and you are who? |
| 02:25.25 | dvs | aw. it's a repeat |
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| 02:25.30 | stoned | lol |
| 02:25.34 | Gnea | :) |
| 02:25.35 | eldowan | pete |
| 02:25.35 | stoned | pop the popcorn! |
| 02:25.55 | streuner_ | abrotman: for me? nothing. Its not important to me which religion somebody has. |
| 02:25.56 | Gnea | ok, he wants to remain anonymous |
| 02:25.57 | stoned | vista is out... is etch! |
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| 02:26.04 | abrotman | streuner_: really .. i'm none |
| 02:26.09 | stoned | s/!/? |
| 02:26.19 | Gnea | stoned: did you know vista has tab-completion? |
| 02:26.21 | eldowan | stoned: you missed it earlier. Azar brought it up iirc |
| 02:26.27 | stoned | dangit |
| 02:26.31 | abrotman | Gnea: you can have that in 2k/xp |
| 02:26.32 | stoned | goddamn Azar |
| 02:26.33 | eldowan | Gnea: XP has tab completion |
| 02:26.36 | stoned | I'm gonna kick his ass |
| 02:26.39 | stoned | :) |
| 02:26.41 | Gnea | eldowan: by default? |
| 02:26.45 | eldowan | Gnea: yes |
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| 02:26.50 | Gnea | eldowan: uh, no. |
| 02:27.04 | eldowan | Gnea: uh, yes. |
| 02:27.06 | abrotman | eldowan: uhm .. yes |
| 02:27.09 | abrotman | erm .. Gnea |
| 02:27.11 | stoned | lol |
| 02:27.21 | dvs | stoned: "Go and kick him in the nuts!" |
| 02:27.31 | abrotman | Gnea: command and cmd do different things |
| 02:27.32 | eldowan | I have such a great personality, everyone mistakes everyone me for everyone else .:D :D |
| 02:27.32 | stoned | nut != ass |
| 02:27.39 | stoned | leave me alone |
| 02:27.40 | stoned | lol |
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| 02:27.52 | eldowan | Gnea: it is rudimentry and sucks, but it is there |
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| 02:29.04 | stoned | anyone use sid? |
| 02:29.14 | eldowan | I've never touched acid myself |
| 02:29.17 | stoned | yes that is my real question |
| 02:29.28 | lunaphyte | what are vserver kernel packages? |
| 02:29.37 | lunaphyte | and xen? |
| 02:29.42 | stoned | well rephrase: who here uses sid? and why? |
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| 02:30.31 | abrotman | lunaphyte: for running with xen .. obviously ;) |
| 02:30.39 | Gnea | eldowan: hrm nope, command.com and cmd both do not have tab completion turned on by default in windows XP |
| 02:30.54 | Reiser_X | Help |
| 02:30.57 | stew | Gnea: eldowan: please take it to a more appropriate channel |
| 02:30.58 | Gnea | stoned: i do, because it's the most stable for me |
| 02:30.58 | eldowan | Gnea: on ALL of my default loads, it works |
| 02:30.59 | abrotman | Gnea: cd <tab><tab> |
| 02:31.02 | Reiser_X | i am using NFS |
| 02:31.05 | stew | stoned: please don't poll |
| 02:31.06 | stoned | is there a way to find out the ratio of stable users to testing to unstable |
| 02:31.12 | stoned | stew: oh |
| 02:31.14 | stew | stoned: no |
| 02:31.18 | Reiser_X | but i can't write in the shared folder |
| 02:31.30 | abrotman | stoned: popcon might have some stats .. but i doubt it |
| 02:31.31 | stoned | stew: may I ask why? |
| 02:31.53 | lunaphyte | abrotman: xen ~= vmware ? |
| 02:31.53 | stoned | I fully comply, but I'm curious by nature |
| 02:31.56 | abrotman | !xen |
| 02:31.56 | dpkg | xen is, like, an open source virtual machine monitor, developed by the University of Cambridge. It is intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. Operating systems must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). This enables Xen to achieve high performance virtualization without special hardware support. try #debian-xen on oftc.net |
| 02:32.16 | lunaphyte | heh. |
| 02:32.28 | stoned | !poll |
| 02:32.29 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 02:32.36 | Gnea | eldowan, abrotman: i'm sorry, but you're both wrong, it is simply not turned on by default. you may have your own scripts to enable it to do so, but it is most certainly not a default XP option. |
| 02:32.38 | stoned | heh |
| 02:32.44 | abrotman | Gnea: yes .. it is |
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| 02:32.45 | stew | stoned: becuase nobody has any idea how many of the users i have chained to non-networked terminals in my basement are running stable vs. testing |
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| 02:33.07 | stoned | stew: I get it |
| 02:33.12 | dvs | o_O |
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| 02:33.25 | stoned | !dvs |
| 02:33.28 | graytron | how do i get debian to work like XP |
| 02:33.32 | stoned | er.. |
| 02:33.41 | stoned | graytron: like you mean the window manager? |
| 02:33.44 | dvs | graytron: remove the kernel |
| 02:33.44 | stew | graytron: you'd have to ask a more specific question |
| 02:33.47 | abrotman | Gnea: it works in XP .. i use it |
| 02:33.48 | stoned | there is one that looks like XP |
| 02:33.52 | abrotman | !xpde |
| 02:33.52 | dpkg | xpde is probably a desktop environment attempting to make it easier for the newbie. stands for "XP Desktop Environment.", or at http://www.xpde.com/ for more info. |
| 02:33.55 | Asc | graytron: hit control-alt-backspace every so often.... |
| 02:34.12 | graytron | thanks for your answers |
| 02:34.23 | Reiser_X | i am using NFS but i can't write in the shared folder |
| 02:34.33 | stoned | Reiser_X: did you mount as rw? |
| 02:34.43 | Reiser_X | stoned: yes |
| 02:34.43 | abrotman | Gnea: so yes .. it's there |
| 02:34.45 | stoned | go to /etc/exports and export it as (rw) |
| 02:34.54 | stoned | then mount it regularly |
| 02:34.54 | Reiser_X | Gnea: Hi |
| 02:35.06 | stoned | Reiser_X: check if user has proper perms on the mounted share |
| 02:35.07 | stew | Reiser_X: what are the permissions/ownership of the folder |
| 02:35.10 | eldowan | stoned: he did, but can't write to it as root |
| 02:35.28 | Reiser_X | root |
| 02:35.43 | Reiser_X | i am root in the client pc |
| 02:36.01 | Guerin | Reiser_X: don't be |
| 02:36.02 | stew | Reiser_X: who owns the folder on the server? |
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| 02:36.08 | Guerin | Reiser_X: root breaks NFS |
| 02:36.19 | abrotman | everything breaks nfs :) |
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| 02:36.26 | Guerin | unless you unsquash it, which is insanely bad practice |
| 02:36.37 | stoned | oh |
| 02:36.42 | stoned | and specify the soft option |
| 02:36.46 | stew | Reiser_X: when you try to do stuff on the client as root via nfs, it uses the "nobody" account on the server, which probably doesn't have write permission on the folder (rightfully so) |
| 02:36.53 | stoned | otherwise if the connection breaks it might hang your apps if youre in that dir |
| 02:37.06 | Reiser_X | ok |
| 02:37.17 | Reiser_X | so, i have to chown the folder? |
| 02:37.25 | stoned | no |
| 02:37.53 | Reiser_X | create a user? |
| 02:38.02 | stoned | I would think so |
| 02:38.38 | stoned | you have not answered some questions |
| 02:38.45 | Reiser_X | ok |
| 02:38.48 | stoned | on the server, the folder is owned by root? |
| 02:38.55 | Reiser_X | no |
| 02:39.01 | stoned | then just create a user |
| 02:39.28 | Reiser_X | how can i change the user logged from a console? |
| 02:39.43 | Reiser_X | i mean, x@pc |
| 02:39.56 | Reiser_X | i want to change ge@pc |
| 02:40.08 | stoned | su |
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| 02:40.19 | stoned | su username |
| 02:40.23 | stoned | then enter users pw |
| 02:40.30 | stoned | or logout and then login |
| 02:40.40 | aTypical | Thank you, abrotman. I'm all set now. |
| 02:40.56 | Reiser_X | ok |
| 02:41.00 | Reiser_X | i created the user |
| 02:41.06 | Reiser_X | but Permission Denied |
| 02:41.10 | Reiser_X | when i want write |
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| 02:41.31 | stoned | so I have laptops /home exported on nfs yeah |
| 02:41.41 | stoned | I acess it with desktop |
| 02:41.41 | abrotman | aTypical: enjoy |
| 02:42.01 | stoned | laptop /home or /xyz needs to have permissions to be able to get written |
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| 02:43.04 | Reiser_X | ?? |
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| 02:43.18 | karsten | Where is the default location of new users' home directories defined? Eg: I'm NFS mounting /home but want a localhome defined, so HOME should = /localhome/$USER for a given user. Thoughts? |
| 02:43.58 | Reiser_X | i have this: /home/gen |
| 02:44.00 | abrotman | adduser.conf maybe ? |
| 02:44.12 | dvs | karsten: I thought it was /etc/passwd |
| 02:44.14 | Reiser_X | i mount /home/gen /mnt/home |
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| 02:44.27 | abrotman | dvs: he means when you create them |
| 02:44.36 | karsten | stew: Can you access your console after starting X w/ your dual head config? My console is blank. |
| 02:44.42 | karsten | !win abrotman |
| 02:44.42 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 02:44.42 | dvs | abrotman: oh. |
| 02:44.46 | karsten | abrotman: You got it. |
| 02:44.48 | dvs | drat! |
| 02:44.56 | abrotman | !prize me |
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| 02:45.30 | Reiser_X | stoned: any idea? |
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| 02:46.23 | karsten | abrotman: Interesting, that also defines UIDs and GIDs, as well as system uid/gid values. |
| 02:46.36 | abrotman | karsten: messy stuff in there :) |
| 02:46.38 | stoned | Reiser_X: you have to check yoru permissions |
| 02:46.50 | karsten | abrotman: No such thing as messy. |
| 02:46.59 | eldowan | Reiser_X: what is the uid of gen on PC B? |
| 02:46.59 | abrotman | karsten: could be if you change those values :) |
| 02:47.01 | karsten | abrotman: Just a temporary shortage of blood sponges. |
| 02:47.15 | abrotman | i like LETTERHOMES :) |
| 02:47.20 | stew | karsten: i can't recall trying |
| 02:47.28 | karsten | abrotman: I swim at an outdoor pool, temps have been in the 30s and 40s of late. |
| 02:47.43 | abrotman | karsten: that's not messy .. that's crazy |
| 02:47.45 | dvs | karsten: F? |
| 02:47.50 | abrotman | dvs: yes |
| 02:47.51 | karsten | abrotman: Saying is: there's no such thing as cold. There's only very, very slow shampoo (sits in my swim bag on deck). |
| 02:47.58 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:48.05 | karsten | dvs: yeah. |
| 02:48.10 | Reiser_X | eldowan: how can i see it |
| 02:48.35 | eldowan | Reiser_X: not sure |
| 02:48.39 | stoned | Reiser_X: cat /etc/passwd |grep username |
| 02:48.39 | karsten | dvs: With flip-flops to insulate your feet, you hardly notice. A bit bracing when you first walk out of the locker room. Problem I usually have is that the water's too warm. |
| 02:48.46 | dvs | o_O |
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| 02:49.07 | Reiser_X | 1000 |
| 02:49.09 | eldowan | Reiser_X: once you get it, create a user with the same uid on PC A. Then login with PC A and see if you can write |
| 02:49.09 | stew | (uuoc) |
| 02:49.20 | karsten | abrotman: lettergroups. Reminds me of scool days. |
| 02:49.21 | eldowan | Reiser_X: ^^ |
| 02:49.30 | karsten | school, even. |
| 02:49.31 | stoned | hey |
| 02:49.38 | abrotman | karsten: exactly |
| 02:49.46 | eldowan | hey if for horses... |
| 02:49.52 | stoned | Reiser_X: who owns /mnt/home |
| 02:49.54 | stoned | ? |
| 02:49.55 | karsten | eldowan: two if by sea? |
| 02:49.58 | abrotman | eldowan: is for horses |
| 02:50.16 | eldowan | karsten: yes, I see too |
| 02:50.19 | stoned | Reiser_X: chown/grp /mnt/home and give it 755 or something for user gen or 1000 or whatever |
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| 02:50.25 | stoned | I believe that will fix your problem |
| 02:50.38 | stoned | I could be wrong but its happened to me |
| 02:50.47 | eldowan | stoned: I'm hoping that's what it is |
| 02:50.53 | eldowan | stoned: what was that about using soft for nfs? |
| 02:51.02 | stoned | eldowan: read manpage |
| 02:51.07 | stoned | i kinda forget exactly |
| 02:51.18 | karsten | eldowan: Don't, don't, don't, don't. |
| 02:51.21 | stoned | but it doesn't keep trying over and over on a broken connection |
| 02:51.35 | eldowan | karsten: Now I have double double vision |
| 02:51.37 | stoned | if soft isn't speficied, it will keep trying over and over after a timeout |
| 02:51.43 | stoned | IIRC |
| 02:51.50 | karsten | eldowan: hard,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 |
| 02:52.03 | eldowan | karsten: why that? |
| 02:52.10 | karsten | stoned: ... and you risk data corruption. |
| 02:52.18 | stoned | karsten: not at all |
| 02:52.23 | karsten | eldowan: 'intr' allow the access to be interrupted. |
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| 02:52.39 | GNP | ok I installed x server and kde now how do I launch or start kde? or even better how do I set it up so it boots into kde? |
| 02:52.39 | eldowan | karsten: ahh, a persistant hard connection? cool |
| 02:52.41 | stoned | karsten: it is useful when your connection isn't reliable |
| 02:52.51 | dvs | GNP: startx |
| 02:53.11 | dvs | GNP: oops. Install kdm |
| 02:53.14 | karsten | stoned: Um, who're you going to suggest we believe, some IRC stoner, or the Linux NFS HOWTO, Netapp's tuning recommendations, and the O'Reilly NFS & NIS docs? |
| 02:53.22 | karsten | stoned: Your data, your choice. |
| 02:53.28 | stoned | i did say IIRC |
| 02:53.30 | karsten | stoned: Hence: intr. |
| 02:53.34 | stoned | I must not have remembered correctly |
| 02:53.36 | eldowan | docs are for wimps! |
| 02:53.42 | karsten | stoned: munchies! |
| 02:53.52 | stoned | karsten: thanks for the attack on me |
| 02:53.54 | stoned | I appreciate it |
| 02:53.57 | karsten | stoned: No problems. |
| 02:53.58 | eldowan | thats low karsten |
| 02:54.03 | Guerin | yes, intr and sync are vital to NFS |
| 02:54.11 | streuner_ | !be a man page barbie |
| 02:54.11 | dpkg | Aww, man page is HARD! Let's go shopping, streuner_ |
| 02:54.27 | eldowan | :D love it! |
| 02:54.47 | eldowan | so would hard,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,sync be prefferable? |
| 02:55.12 | stoned | karsten: its been a while since I messed with NFS, a long while. Yes I am a stoner and yes I'm on IRC. You got a problem? |
| 02:55.12 | streuner_ | well, i want actually use 'be a reading barbie' - that was a mistake :-) |
| 02:55.12 | Guerin | i have found hard,intr to not work |
| 02:55.12 | GNP | when I do install kdm it says install: to few arguments |
| 02:55.25 | Guerin | i heard it's misimplemented in linux nfs |
| 02:55.37 | abrotman | GNP: aptitude install kdm |
| 02:55.38 | karsten | stoned: Just keep your facts straight. I cited my sources. |
| 02:55.50 | stoned | karsten: yeh, thanks |
| 02:56.05 | eldowan | karsten: he did say iirc, and told me to read the man page before he tried to remember. |
| 02:56.07 | stoned | your penis of knowledge is much larger than mine |
| 02:56.17 | dvs | heh |
| 02:56.18 | karsten | eldowan: I'd also specify TCP protocol. Checking other options. |
| 02:56.32 | karsten | stoned: Ain't disagreein'. |
| 02:56.41 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 02:56.45 | stoned | karsten: whaever helps you sleep at night man |
| 02:56.48 | stoned | :) |
| 02:56.51 | justin | yeah, nfs is a PITA, I can't get secure nfs to work on linux or solaris.. linux gets krb errors, solaris panics and reboots |
| 02:57.04 | GNP | Im getting the feeling I should have dl'd and burned all this stuff to cd so when I screw it up and have to start over dont have to dl it again via apt-get :P |
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| 02:57.11 | abrotman | justin: you should try irix! |
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| 02:57.34 | dvs | GNP: Debian isn't Windows. Chances are most things can be fixed. |
| 02:57.35 | justin | abrotman: so far solaris is the least stable OS i've ever used :-) |
| 02:57.49 | dvs | justin: and I use it daily! |
| 02:58.06 | GNP | ok install kdm is finished, whats next |
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| 02:58.17 | dvs | GNP: restart |
| 02:58.30 | abrotman | justin: it's not that bad .. i've used worse |
| 02:58.34 | karsten | eldowan: nosuid, vers=3 (or 4 if you like), 'bg' for non-critical (eg: not necessary at boot-time) mounts, a sane retry= value (100 or so?). |
| 02:58.37 | dvs | GNP: or /etc/init.d/kdm start |
| 02:58.50 | karsten | eldowan: The Linux NSF HOWTO summarizes 'em pretty well. |
| 02:58.56 | GNP | too late already restarted |
| 02:59.02 | justin | abrotman: the other day I managed to panic the kernel by doing 'route add somehost whateverthesyntaxis 127.0.0.1' |
| 02:59.02 | dvs | that's OK |
| 02:59.08 | speyer | does courier-authlib has authvchkpw support build in ? |
| 02:59.15 | eldowan | karsten: thanks for the tips, I'm sure my data will appreciate it. :D |
| 02:59.22 | abrotman | justin: wow .. i only ever got it to crash with hardware failure |
| 02:59.29 | abrotman | maybe that's your problem :) |
| 02:59.38 | Reiser_X | stoned |
| 02:59.40 | stoned | yo |
| 02:59.45 | Reiser_X | stoned: i did |
| 02:59.54 | Reiser_X | thanks |
| 02:59.55 | stoned | Reiser_X: I dunno what I'm talking about |
| 02:59.58 | stoned | sorry |
| 03:00.04 | justin | abrotman: doubt it, it's repeatable |
| 03:00.05 | speyer | anyone ? |
| 03:00.07 | eldowan | Reiser_X: it worked? |
| 03:00.10 | Reiser_X | NFS |
| 03:00.15 | abrotman | justin: same bad hardware! |
| 03:00.16 | GNP | ok do I log back in as root or as the user I created when I set it up |
| 03:00.17 | hagbard | justin: word. |
| 03:00.20 | karsten | eldowan: The rsize/wsize are performance tuning values. Most vendors suggest ~8192, though I've heard one suggest 32768, for local (non-bridged/non-routed) data only. Most routers will fragment those packets though. |
| 03:00.22 | abrotman | justin: is this Sol10 ? |
| 03:00.26 | Reiser_X | yeah |
| 03:00.27 | hagbard | justin: I work at the lab that does nfsv4 for linux. Can I help? |
| 03:00.33 | Reiser_X | eldowan: yes |
| 03:00.33 | dvs | GNP: X won't allow you to log in as root |
| 03:00.42 | Reiser_X | i test from my php app |
| 03:00.46 | Reiser_X | and work fine |
| 03:00.56 | stoned | well whaddya know |
| 03:00.58 | eldowan | Reiser_X: I'm glad we were able to help you get going. :D |
| 03:01.01 | stoned | some irc stoner kows what hes talking about |
| 03:01.02 | stoned | wow |
| 03:01.03 | justin | hagbard: cool! what does 'WARNING: Failed to create krb5 context' mean |
| 03:01.06 | stoned | how the fuck did that happen |
| 03:01.07 | hagbard | karsten: if you're using ethernet without gigabit, the ip frames will be most certainly fragmented. |
| 03:01.14 | justin | abrotman: SunOS pip 5.11 NexentaOS_20070105 i86pc |
| 03:01.16 | hagbard | justin: Where are you seeing that? |
| 03:01.24 | abrotman | justin: last time i used solaris a bunch was 8 |
| 03:01.26 | justin | hagbard: rpc.gssd |
| 03:01.37 | GNP | ok Im logged in as the user do I do startx now? |
| 03:01.46 | justin | hagbard: I even deleted the whole krb5 setup and redid everything with des-crc-cbc keys, still no go |
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| 03:01.58 | dvs | GNP: X didn't come up when you rebooted? |
| 03:02.03 | Reiser_X | thanks |
| 03:02.04 | GNP | no |
| 03:02.07 | hagbard | justin: you have a key on each host for principle "host/nfs"? |
| 03:02.20 | hagbard | justin: do you have the krb5 secrpc module loaded? |
| 03:02.26 | Reiser_X | but i have to use chmod 777 in folder i shared |
| 03:02.27 | dvs | GNP: If you installed kdm it should bring up X when you rebooted |
| 03:02.28 | hagbard | justin: err, rpcsec |
| 03:02.39 | karsten | hagbard: 10g/20g here. |
| 03:02.54 | justin | hagbard: yep, rpcsec_gss_krb5 |
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| 03:03.26 | karsten | eldowan: http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/ftp/3183.pdf |
| 03:03.30 | justin | hagbard: klist -c /tmp/krb5cc_machine_* shows the nfs/fqdn key being pulled in |
| 03:03.39 | karsten | eldowan: ... is Netapp's whitepaper on the topic, pretty good. |
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| 03:03.51 | GNP | first I did apt-get install x-window-system-core and then apt-get install kde then did aptitude install kdm and rebooted |
| 03:03.52 | gookhits | Can someone help me with a simple routing questions. I got a pix 515e, and a server using the LAN ip, but the external ip is publish on the pix and it forward it to the LAN ip. So my qeustions is outside can type in the WAN IP and get in, but inside LAN i type in the WAN IP it doesn't resolve anyone know how to make it resolve. what do i need? thanks.. |
| 03:03.55 | eldowan | karsten: I'll try to read that before long. |
| 03:04.15 | justin | hagbard: oooh! you are one of the citi people, cool :-) |
| 03:04.16 | dvs | !install kde |
| 03:04.16 | GNP | did I miss a step? |
| 03:04.16 | dpkg | hmm... install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
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| 03:04.55 | hagbard | justin: I'm a student as well, though. I've been focussing more on classes lately. |
| 03:05.03 | hagbard | justin: Oh, are you trying to use krb5p? |
| 03:05.16 | justin | hagbard: for now, just sec=krb5, with nfs4 or 3 |
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| 03:05.53 | karsten | eldowan: It mostly boils down to a few short examples (and negative examples) of what you should specify. |
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| 03:06.12 | gluser | any 3D destop for debian? |
| 03:06.25 | hagbard | justin: which nfs-utils are you runnning? |
| 03:07.03 | abrotman | mildly OT .. anyone know where spamhaus went ? |
| 03:07.09 | Guerin | gluser: make some goggles with red in one eye and blue in the other |
| 03:07.09 | gluser | 3D desktop |
| 03:07.14 | justin | 1.0.9 from ubuntu on one machine, got the same results with 1.0.10 on etch |
| 03:07.16 | gluser | :D |
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| 03:07.34 | hagbard | justin: can you cut and paste your krb5.conf somewhere? if it has private details in it, feel free to privmsg me the url |
| 03:07.36 | gluser | Guerin: what about the green? |
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| 03:07.45 | Guerin | gluser: i only have two eyes |
| 03:07.55 | uoeh | I have a very old exim setup from like 2004 that I basically used the exim-config package to use. |
| 03:07.56 | uoeh | to setup |
| 03:08.21 | GNP | I ran aptitude install kde and rebooted and it still boots to command prompt wanting me to login |
| 03:08.22 | SJr | My question is what is: /var/spool/exim/msglog |
| 03:08.27 | justin | hagbard: it's pretty much stock, the only thing I tried adding was default_tkt_enctypes = des-cbc-crc and default_tgs_enctypes = des-cbc-crc |
| 03:08.56 | hagbard | justin: and you defined your domain? |
| 03:09.05 | gluser | my search brought up Beryl, will it be available for Debian? |
| 03:09.11 | hagbard | justin: Specifically, domain_realm entries? |
| 03:09.27 | justin | hagbard: yep, that all seems to be working, I can login over ssh with no password using gssapi auth |
| 03:09.27 | dvs | GNP: login and try "startx" |
| 03:09.43 | GNP | login as root or as user |
| 03:09.51 | dvs | user |
| 03:10.25 | hagbard | justin: that's the only syslog message you get? nothing about failed upcalls? |
| 03:10.34 | GNP | came back with errors |
| 03:10.35 | justin | hagbard: lemme enable debugging and re-run it |
| 03:10.46 | gluser | more pressing matter. how to make a script be executed automatically during shutdown? |
| 03:10.47 | dvs | that's what I thought. X isn't set up. |
| 03:10.50 | hagbard | justin: -vvvvf |
| 03:10.57 | dvs | right |
| 03:11.22 | GNP | failed to initialize core devices and X10 fatel IO error 104 |
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| 03:11.49 | justin | hagbard: yep, I'm quite familiar with those options :( |
| 03:11.51 | stew | GNP: modprobe mousedev |
| 03:12.03 | dvs | GNP: post /var/log/xorg.0.log in paster |
| 03:12.16 | dvs | uh... listen to stew |
| 03:12.35 | stew | GNP: if that fixes it, add "mousedev" to /etc/modules |
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| 03:12.48 | stew | i really need a irssi macro that says that |
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| 03:13.02 | gluser | how to make a script be executed automatically during shutdown? |
| 03:13.28 | GNP | modprobe command not found |
| 03:13.32 | abrotman | gluser: put a script in /etc/init.d/ and link it in /etc/rc0.d/ |
| 03:13.41 | stew | GNP: as root |
| 03:13.42 | abrotman | gluser: and please don't repeat |
| 03:13.44 | dvs | GNP: you have to do that as root |
| 03:13.51 | GNP | oh ok 1 sec |
| 03:13.56 | justin | hagbard: http://channels.debian.net/paste/5223 |
| 03:14.29 | gluser | abrotman: is it update-rc or rc-update? no man for either? |
| 03:14.44 | GNP | ps/2 mouse device common for all mice |
| 03:14.45 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
| 03:14.47 | justin | hagbard: that is from running mount.. if I mount using version3 with sec=krb5, it works, but I get similar errors when trying to access the mountpoint, but instead of uid 0 it is my uid |
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| 03:14.59 | gluser | abrotman: thks. |
| 03:15.12 | wes | !tell wes about nvidia |
| 03:15.16 | hagbard | justin: and in the syslog/message/debug? |
| 03:15.46 | stoned | !dpkgbot |
| 03:15.46 | dpkg | it has been said that dpkgbot is Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also see <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. |
| 03:15.50 | justin | hagbard: nothing, just that |
| 03:15.51 | stoned | wes ^^ |
| 03:16.08 | wes | shut up stoned :D |
| 03:16.14 | stoned | awe |
| 03:16.18 | stoned | I'm only trying to help :( |
| 03:16.34 | wes | ;p |
| 03:16.37 | hagbard | justin: gonna be around for a few? Lemme ask some others. |
| 03:16.38 | eldowan | damn, it must be bash stoned night |
| 03:16.48 | stoned | its always bash stoned night |
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| 03:17.09 | justin | hagbard: sure :-) I fought with this for a whole day and then gave up, but it's not like me to give up :-) |
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| 03:17.11 | dvs | stoned getting stoned, in the bad way! |
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| 03:17.23 | Reiser_X | thanks stoned |
| 03:17.27 | abrotman | stoned: maybe if you didn't jump on everyone else ... |
| 03:17.38 | stoned | you are welcome |
| 03:17.46 | stoned | abrotman: projection isn't good |
| 03:17.49 | Reiser_X | see you tomorrow |
| 03:17.56 | stoned | Reiser_X: have a good one |
| 03:17.58 | justin | I think the only thing I didn't try yet was running the kdc on linux |
| 03:18.03 | abrotman | stoned: depends what you're watching |
| 03:18.12 | stoned | abrotman: you're dumb. |
| 03:18.18 | abrotman | see what i mean ... |
| 03:18.23 | Reiser_X | with some more questions |
| 03:18.23 | Reiser_X | heheh |
| 03:18.23 | Reiser_X | bye |
| 03:18.23 | eldowan | lets play nice, huh? |
| 03:18.26 | stoned | you completely missed wtf projection was about |
| 03:18.28 | stoned | so nevermind |
| 03:18.31 | abrotman | no .. i didn't |
| 03:19.02 | niles | hi |
| 03:19.22 | niles | i was playing a dvd with xine. then it froze do to a bad spot on the disk. kill wont kill it |
| 03:19.29 | niles | and now the cd tray wont open |
| 03:19.30 | stoned | kill -9? |
| 03:19.31 | gluser | stoned: abrotman is dumber than dumb. don't waste time on him. |
| 03:19.48 | justin | niles: paperclip should fix it |
| 03:19.49 | stoned | hes smart with certain things |
| 03:19.51 | abrotman | wtf |
| 03:19.56 | dvs | justin: hahahahahah |
| 03:19.59 | dvs | clippy? |
| 03:20.01 | stoned | for example he knows debian |
| 03:20.03 | justin | dvs: it wasn't a joke :) |
| 03:20.09 | abrotman | oh ..that's why .. the .sg troll! |
| 03:20.17 | Wyzard | niles: Try "cdreset"... if that doesn't work, the drive is confused and needs to be power-cycled, which probably means rebooting the whole computer because that's the only safe way to power-cycle most internal drives |
| 03:20.23 | dvs | justin: oh? you were serious? I just thought about Clippy. |
| 03:20.26 | justin | cdroms really get stuck sometimes, they don't seem to just fail like hds |
| 03:20.32 | GNP | ok kde is up and running but my mouse dont work |
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| 03:20.38 | niles | ok thanx guys |
| 03:20.59 | justin | on earlier 2.6 kernels in my other machine, the drive would go nuts on IO errors, eventually cause the ide-bus to reset over and over again and eventually panic |
| 03:21.18 | dvs | GNP: you did add mousedev to /etc/modules, right? |
| 03:21.33 | GNP | no I missed that |
| 03:22.05 | GNP | I did modprobe mousedev and then startx |
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| 03:22.48 | karsten | justin: Have you considered it's a bad drive? |
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| 03:23.00 | thug | need help getting rid of one package |
| 03:23.16 | eldowan | :D |
| 03:23.18 | thug | E: amavisd-new: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 |
| 03:23.18 | GNP | can I go to start/run command and do it or do I have to start over in command prompt mode? |
| 03:23.24 | thug | karsten :) |
| 03:23.38 | justin | karsten: possibly, it was a oem HP cdrw.. 4x! |
| 03:23.46 | thug | karsten because of the package i canot install or remove anyother |
| 03:23.57 | karsten | thug: bash -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/amavisd-new.postrm |
| 03:24.00 | enouf | niles: sudo eject /dev/cdrom does nothing? |
| 03:24.23 | karsten | thug: ... see where it's puking. If you can fix it, do, otherwise add 'exit 0' to the top of the script and fake it. |
| 03:24.52 | wes | how do I remove x and nvidia so I can start fresh? |
| 03:24.52 | thug | karsten postrm called with unknown argument |
| 03:24.54 | karsten | thug: If you can, file a bug report. |
| 03:25.05 | karsten | wes: man aptitude |
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| 03:25.36 | thug | karsten help me getting read of it please |
| 03:25.39 | stew | thug: edit the .postrm script, add "set -x" as the second line, then try removing it again |
| 03:25.39 | karsten | thug: Look for anything referencing $1 in the script and see if you can suss the args it's expecting. Or maybe someone here knows. |
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| 03:25.53 | dvs | GNP: huh? |
| 03:25.57 | karsten | stew: I already had him run 'bash -x' which is the same thing. |
| 03:26.06 | karsten | thug: Gotta split, you're in good hands here. |
| 03:26.13 | thug | aight |
| 03:26.16 | thug | thanks |
| 03:26.39 | GNP | how do I add mousedev to /etc/modules, right |
| 03:26.41 | stew | karsten: well tell him how to get dpkg to run it with "bash -x" instead. or tell him what arguments to pass |
| 03:26.50 | dvs | GNP: with an editor. |
| 03:26.53 | stew | GNP: echo mousedev >> /etc/modules |
| 03:26.58 | dvs | GNP: that too |
| 03:27.01 | dvs | (as root) |
| 03:28.04 | thug | stew thanks |
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| 03:30.08 | Miesco_ | It says that gabber has no process, but why is it minimized and wont close |
| 03:30.49 | Miesco | Maybe its gnome? |
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| 03:33.42 | karsten | stew: Um, dunno how to make dpkg run it w/ bash -x. Point taken WRT adding 'set -x' then. |
| 03:33.53 | GNP | I restarted system, logged in as root, typed modprobe mousedev then typed echo mousedev >> /etc/modules and then typed startx |
| 03:34.28 | GNP | but mouse still didnt work |
| 03:34.28 | justin | GNP: no startx as root |
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| 03:36.10 | parsonsd | are there any manuals for artsd? |
| 03:36.45 | stew | parsonsd: /usr/share/doc/arts ? |
| 03:37.31 | rpc | guys, can someone please tell what basic steps does it take to run my own name server so others can use it for their ns queries? |
| 03:37.31 | stoned | concept10: you there |
| 03:37.31 | parsonsd | come to think of it -- the whole question is: my sound system seems to have gone haywire and i get no sound -- everything returns "/dev/dsp busy" -- lsof doesn't say anything about /dev/dsp being used, so where else can i go? |
| 03:37.31 | rpc | any special setup besides the daemon needed? |
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| 03:37.37 | parsonsd | stew - thanks. that's got some opened files, so i'll start looking into it |
| 03:37.39 | stoned | concept10: I'm trying to configure audacity.. trying to find out how to not get clipping when I record. I turned my amp way down. |
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| 03:37.55 | GNP | Im not the brightest apple in the barrel but this is harder than I thought it would be |
| 03:38.03 | stoned | lol |
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| 03:38.13 | concept10 | stoned, let me install audacity and see |
| 03:38.16 | GNP | now it boots into kde and wont let me log in as root |
| 03:38.17 | wes | user not authorized to run the x server how do allow a user to be able to startx ? |
| 03:38.19 | stoned | oh thank go |
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| 03:38.24 | stew | parsonsd: try fuser /dev/dsp /dev/snd/* |
| 03:38.26 | dvs | GNP: That's normal |
| 03:38.35 | stew | wes: which version of debian are you running? |
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| 03:38.40 | GNP | but my mouse still dont work |
| 03:38.41 | stoned | concept10: thank you.. I'm abou ready to start recording.. just need a bit of help with tweaking the knobs and settings |
| 03:38.49 | stoned | concept10: lets go to ##recording |
| 03:38.51 | wes | etch I just installed 2.6.19 |
| 03:38.51 | stew | GNP: how is your mouse attached? |
| 03:38.59 | GNP | ps/2 |
| 03:39.02 | stew | wes: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 03:39.12 | abrotman | stoned: have you looked at rosegarden ? |
| 03:39.13 | stew | GNP: modprobe psmouse ; add psmouse to /etc/modules |
| 03:39.18 | stew | abrotman: i have |
| 03:39.21 | stoned | abrotman: no |
| 03:39.24 | abrotman | stew: i know you have ;) |
| 03:39.47 | GNP | but I need to do that logged in as root correct? |
| 03:39.56 | abrotman | stoned: you might like it ..give it a whirl .. i use audacity .. but my needs are simple |
| 03:40.17 | parsonsd | stew - ok. that gave me some output on the console |
| 03:40.26 | parsonsd | not sure what it means.... |
| 03:40.41 | stew | parsonsd: its a list of process ids of processes using your sound card |
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| 03:40.53 | stew | GNP: yes, you can use "su" to switch to root, and "exit" to then return to your account |
| 03:40.56 | wes | stew: I did that , and selected anyone to start x, but it still gives me that error. . do I have to do anything after that? |
| 03:40.58 | parsonsd | stew -ahhh. i just got the manpage up. |
| 03:42.39 | hark | wes: what does /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config say? |
| 03:42.39 | stew | wes: you shoulnd't have to. how are you trying to start x? |
| 03:42.58 | wes | nvm got it, thanks |
| 03:43.51 | parsonsd | stew - it looks like (from the arts-project.org site) that juk will simply restart arts if i kill it. |
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| 03:44.19 | dthomas | because i'm ignorant i used apt pinning to install a kernel, samba, and their dependencies from unstable on a sarge box. now i want to do something like "apt-get build-dep pkg-with-lots-of-deps" but it fails when it selects (for example) libgcrypt-dev from stable because libgcrypt from unstable is installed. is there some way to tell apt, "install what you can from stable, but install packages from unstable if required to mee |
| 03:44.20 | dthomas | t dependencies"? |
| 03:45.43 | stew | dthomas: yes, but its not a recommended way of handling things. you can try upgrading your whole box to testing, or you can reinstall stable |
| 03:45.46 | GNP | modprobe cant locate module psmouse |
| 03:45.59 | stew | GNP: oh, a 2.4 kernel, i guess? |
| 03:46.06 | dvs | yikes! |
| 03:46.12 | GNP | I heard setting up a nix box was easy I must be an idiot |
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| 03:46.55 | karsten | GNP: Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. |
| 03:47.00 | karsten | GNP: patience. |
| 03:47.02 | GNP | dont know nothing about a 2.4 kernal |
| 03:47.21 | dvs | GNP: Did you install Debian 3.1 with no boot: options? |
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| 03:48.05 | dthomas | stew: i'm feeling somewhat masochistic. can you give me some hint of how i'd accomplish what i described with apt? |
| 03:48.11 | GNP | I used netinstall, not sure if I set up any boot options or not Ive answered a lot of questions throught the install and cant remember them all |
| 03:48.46 | stew | dthomas: /msg dpkg pinning |
| 03:48.46 | bkudria | texlive-base-bin postinst fails with: "fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found.". what could be wrong? |
| 03:48.56 | GNP | this is my first go at installing |
| 03:50.20 | parsonsd | stew : thanks for pointing 'fuser' |
| 03:50.40 | eldowan | where can I find the information on the kernel naming scheme for debian? |
| 03:51.16 | parsonsd | juk stalled on opening so i am using xmms.... are there any options to make xmms is big enough to see the controls? any skins? |
| 03:51.45 | karsten | parsonsd: There's a doublesize option. |
| 03:52.01 | parsonsd | karsten : on start or in a menu? |
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| 03:52.20 | karsten | parsonsd: Default skin, it's the 'D' on the left side, next to the waveform displah. |
| 03:52.21 | parsonsd | karsten : nevermind. |
| 03:52.23 | parsonsd | just found |
| 03:52.37 | parsonsd | karsten : also [CTRL] + [D] |
| 03:52.42 | parsonsd | karsten, thanks |
| 03:52.47 | karsten | Schwing. |
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| 03:53.10 | parsonsd | karsten, yeh, i'd have never seen the D on the side of the equalizer |
| 03:53.14 | Kobaz | is there a way to control brightness at the software level with the fglrx driver |
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| 03:53.39 | karsten | Kobaz: No, intelligence is a genetic attribute ;-) |
| 03:53.41 | scud | what is the package name for install mkfs.xfs ? |
| 03:53.51 | pipeline | scud: xfsprogs |
| 03:53.53 | pipeline | scud: apt-cache search |
| 03:53.54 | Kobaz | karsten: heh |
| 03:53.55 | abrotman | !search |
| 03:53.55 | dpkg | hmm... search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. |
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| 03:54.26 | Kobaz | i may just buy an nvidia card so i can control the brightness, my lcd is pretty bright at it's lowest settings |
| 03:55.12 | scud | pipeline: i did a apt-cache search xfs and saw xfsprogs - Utilities for managing the XFS filesystem but i thought it was something like mkfsreiserprogs not the module to use xfs |
| 03:55.15 | scud | but thank you |
| 03:55.34 | hagbard | justin: the best guy to ask isn't responding - if you'd like, privmsg me tomorrow - preferrably during business hours |
| 03:56.41 | justin | hagbard: will try and remember :) |
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| 03:59.19 | GNP | Im guessing at this point I should maybe start over |
| 03:59.25 | maddash | I think my opera browser just got hijacked by some program I installed through wine, because all of a sudden, nonsensical urls return a search page from cyberfinder.com . anyone have ideas? |
| 04:00.09 | stew | what is the name of 'psmouse' in a 2.4 kernel? anyone? |
| 04:00.19 | maddash | also, I'm pretty sure that I didn't `sudo win` |
| 04:00.30 | maddash | s\win\wine\ |
| 04:00.44 | abrotman | stew: psmouse .. i think ? |
| 04:00.45 | dthomas | stew: it seems to me all the apt pinning examples there work fine if i want to install all dependencies from one distribution or another. however, i want to install dependencies from unstable only when the version in stable conflicts with package(s) already installed from unstable. |
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| 04:01.30 | dthomas | stew: for example, libfoo-dev-1.0 from stable can be installed because libfoo-1.0 (from stable) is installed, but libbar-dev-1.0 from stable can't be installed because libbar-2.0 from unstable is already installed; so choose libbar-dev-2.0 from unstable instead. |
| 04:02.16 | het | Hi, I just upgraded apache2 (running etch) and I can't seem to get it to treat perl scripts as CGI scripts |
| 04:02.34 | het | does that ring a bell with anyone? |
| 04:02.47 | yunhual | hi, the ksoftirqd eat 100% CPU on my machine. |
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| 04:03.31 | het | I updated /etc/apache2/apache2.conf on the upgrade, but even adding an AddHandler cgi-script .pl line doesn't work |
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| 04:03.50 | Kobaz | yunhual: is dma enabled on your hdds |
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| 04:04.04 | yunhual | yes |
| 04:04.13 | yunhual | kobaz, yes |
| 04:04.13 | Kobaz | hmm i forgot what causes that |
| 04:04.41 | Kobaz | anything else running? |
| 04:04.43 | stew | abrotman: its not |
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| 04:04.46 | yunhual | kobz, my promble seems like this http://oss.sgi.com/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=%2Bsubject:%2F%5E%28%3F:%5E%5Cs%2A%28re%7Csv%7Cfwd%7Cfw%29%5B%5C%5B%5C%5D%5Cd%5D%2A%5B:%3E-%5D%2B%5Cs%2A%29%2Aksoftirqd%5Cs%2Buses%5Cs%2B99%5C%25%5Cs%2BCPU%5Cs%2Btriggered%5Cs%2Bby%5Cs%2Bnetwork%5Cs%2Btraffic%5Cs%2B%5C%28maybe%5Cs%2BRLT%5C-8139%5Cs%2Brelated%5C%29%5Cs%2A%24%2F&idxname=netdev&sort=date%3Alate |
| 04:04.54 | stew | !find psmouse.o sarge |
| 04:05.20 | Kobaz | heh, next time use tinyurl |
| 04:05.52 | abrotman | stew: there's a mousedev in 2.4 |
| 04:06.00 | stew | abrotman: yes, but no psmouse |
| 04:06.01 | Kobaz | yunhual: you have that nic? |
| 04:06.08 | abrotman | builtin ? |
| 04:06.15 | stew | maybe |
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| 04:06.47 | yunhual | i have e100 nic |
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| 04:06.57 | dthomas | 2.4.28 drivers/char/pc_keyb.c says it handles both ps/2 keyboard and mouse? |
| 04:07.51 | Kobaz | yunhual: do you get the same result when the minumum is running.. ie kill -9 -1 (don't do that now) |
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| 04:09.24 | stew | !find keyb.o sarge |
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| 04:09.48 | stew | must be built in |
| 04:09.55 | abrotman | stew: yes .. builtin |
| 04:09.58 | Kobaz | yunhual: the problem is, it could be any number of things |
| 04:09.59 | abrotman | !kernel config |
| 04:09.59 | dpkg | well, kernel configs is found in /boot/config-* for installed kernels, and a collection of (hopefully currently) available kernel configs can be found at http://vireo.org/~stew/kconfig/ |
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| 04:10.08 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'keyb.o' returned no results. |
| 04:10.20 | hellop | Can someone help me install my USB disk on etch? My prob is that I have no serial devices like /dev/sda |
| 04:10.22 | Kobaz | yunhual: latest kernel? |
| 04:10.22 | abrotman | $ grep PSMOUSE /boot/config-2.4.27-3-586tsc |
| 04:10.22 | abrotman | CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y |
| 04:10.26 | dthomas | stew: yeah, drivers/char/Config.in lists CONFIG_PSMOUSE as bool not tristate. |
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| 04:10.30 | Mevbob | hi all |
| 04:10.34 | Mevbob | FREE MEMBERSHIP ::::::::: ADULT FORUM FOR YOU :::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com |
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| 04:10.37 | abrotman | stew: see |
| 04:10.38 | abrotman | above |
| 04:10.39 | hellop | Although, when etc boots up with the drive plugged in, it mentiones /dev/sda |
| 04:10.41 | abrotman | besides that :) |
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| 04:10.59 | hellop | How do I get /sda to show up in /dev? |
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| 04:11.21 | stew | hellop: do you have the udev package installed? |
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| 04:11.39 | hellop | stew, I'll check.. I have hotplug installed |
| 04:12.08 | hellop | that was supposed to read when etch boots up |
| 04:12.22 | n0mad | hi. im looking for a foss xml schema editor ala oxygen. any suggestions ? (no eclipse crap please) |
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| 04:12.59 | yunhual | kobaz, my kernel is 2.4.20 |
| 04:13.51 | hellop | I get this stuff on bootup: sda: Write Protect is off, sda:sda1, attached scsi disk sda |
| 04:14.16 | stew | hellop: you are running etch? |
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| 04:14.23 | hellop | stew, udev not installed. yes etch |
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| 04:14.41 | daf_ | Can anyone give me a hand? I get this error when I try mount /cdrom mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist |
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| 04:14.57 | stew | hellop: cd /dev ;/sbin/MAKEDEV generic |
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| 04:16.01 | dthomas | 7 |
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| 04:18.05 | hellop | please purge the hotplug package? |
| 04:18.13 | hellop | so... I can't have hotplug with udev? |
| 04:18.22 | Malf | yeah they're exclusive of each other |
| 04:18.35 | Malf | they both do the same thing in some respects |
| 04:18.36 | stew | hellop: no, you cannot |
| 04:18.41 | enouf | hellop: I wou;dn't know how to do it using hotplug instead of udev (esecially on a 2.6.17+ kernel), but maybe also see linux-usb.org (nice older docs) |
| 04:18.54 | stew | how to do what? |
| 04:18.59 | enouf | hellop: udev and hotplug conflict |
| 04:19.05 | GNP | should I just wipe the drive and start over with a bit of install help so everything is set up correctly? |
| 04:19.20 | hellop | enouf, hmm my touchscreen instructions say to use hotplug.. |
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| 04:19.39 | enouf | hellop: USB disk and touchscreen? |
| 04:20.23 | hellop | enouf, CF disk and touchscreen... I'm actually doing an NTFS data recovery on an IDE drive to the USB drive. |
| 04:20.52 | hellop | Windows My Computer and disk admin locks up with the drive installed, Ubuntu Live gets kernel panic.. But, etch sees it! |
| 04:21.00 | Malf | GNP: I must admit I had to try installing at least twice before I got things basically working and ended up reinstalling once more a few months later after I had more of a firm grasp on things. With that said your issues should be resolveable, the hard part is really finding out what the underlying issue is. |
| 04:21.24 | Malf | GNP: I haven't been paying much attention to the channel so I'm not sure if your situation would merit a reinstall or not really |
| 04:21.42 | hellop | enouf, installed udev, purged hotplug, reboot, now have /dev/sda |
| 04:21.43 | GNP | basicly my mouse dont work |
| 04:21.54 | enouf | <hellop> Can someone help me install my USB disk on etch? My prob is that I have no serial devices like /dev/sda <-- hrmm .. besides I don't know about CF disks, nor XPoop much, se the url I gave ya |
| 04:21.59 | GNP | other than that kde seems to be running fine |
| 04:22.02 | hellop | thanks for the help |
| 04:22.04 | stew | GNP: "cat /dev/psaux" then move the mouse, does junk get printed? |
| 04:22.11 | enouf | ok |
| 04:22.38 | Malf | yeah a mouse should in theory be easy enough to fix |
| 04:23.26 | magyar | hi, where can i set mime-types in apache on etch? |
| 04:24.07 | GNP | where do I type that? |
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| 04:24.42 | Malf | GNP: In a terminal, probably need to do it as root |
| 04:24.54 | GNP | and I dont have a printer hooked to the machine yet |
| 04:25.03 | Malf | it'll print on the screen |
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| 04:25.38 | GNP | how do I switch from user to root in the terminal window |
| 04:25.46 | Malf | su |
| 04:25.54 | Malf | then enter your root password |
| 04:26.02 | Malf | when it prompts for it |
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| 04:26.12 | MatBoy | is it normal that when you do a "route add -net nblabalbalbal" and you restart the network, that this route is gone ? |
| 04:26.34 | hellop | Linux always saves my ass when it comes to data recovery. It doesn't choke and lockup like windows |
| 04:26.54 | stew | MatBoy: yes, routes are deleted when the interface goes down |
| 04:26.55 | Malf | I've had to use linux to save data off of so many broken windows drives |
| 04:26.55 | GNP | cat/dev/psaux: no such file or directory |
| 04:26.56 | MatBoy | hellop, damn, you must have a nice ass by now than :P |
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| 04:27.09 | stew | GNP: "cat /dev/psaux" |
| 04:27.10 | MatBoy | stew, is it possible to "let them live" ? |
| 04:27.10 | Malf | you need a space between cat and the /dev/psaux |
| 04:27.30 | garotosopa | is it normal that X uses 41% of 906MB of memory? considering some windows opened on kde with transparencies |
| 04:27.49 | stew | MatBoy: no, but ou can have them automatically added when you bring the interface up by adding the command to add them to an up line in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:27.51 | GNP | ok... yes junk gets printed on the screen |
| 04:28.12 | stew | GNP: that means your mouse is working |
| 04:28.19 | stew | GNP: hit ctrl-c to quit that |
| 04:28.33 | stew | GNP: what device did you choose when you configured x? /dev/psaux? /dev/input/mice? |
| 04:28.38 | MatBoy | stew, ok, so on the bottom of every ethX file, it's no problem |
| 04:29.00 | GNP | yes I think so |
| 04:29.23 | GNP | dev/psuax |
| 04:29.30 | GNP | psaux |
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| 04:30.29 | iain | Is it possible to use zenity to display a folder selection dialog instead of a file selection dialog? |
| 04:30.32 | stew | GNP: put your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and /var/log/XFree86.0.log into a pastebin |
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| 04:32.16 | hellop | <---- everytime green led flashes on USB drive I make a dollar |
| 04:32.22 | GNP | how would I do that? |
| 04:32.46 | stew | GNP: use w3m to upload to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php |
| 04:32.46 | GNP | Im chatting on one pc while trying to set up nix on the other |
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| 04:36.44 | Malf | GNP: Are you able to get to that site to upload a file without a mouse on that box? or not so much |
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| 04:37.17 | maher | stupid question - is there an easy way to do ssl authentication against /etc/passwd / pam? how about via ldap from another machine? |
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| 04:38.05 | GNP | trying to figure out a way now |
| 04:38.22 | GNP | Im very new to nix |
| 04:38.29 | enouf | !tell GNP -about pastebin |
| 04:38.56 | GNP | I can probably get to the site on that machine but 1 not sure where those files are and 2 not sure how to get them to upload |
| 04:39.18 | GNP | I know what pastebin is |
| 04:39.30 | enouf | the factoid tells you "how" |
| 04:39.52 | Malf | the files are going to be under /etc/X11/ |
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| 04:40.16 | Malf | well |
| 04:40.24 | Malf | the config is |
| 04:40.38 | Malf | stew wrote out the path to both earlier |
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| 04:40.45 | concept10 | I read about an package somewhere that makes kde widgets look like gnome in gnome.. anyone know of this? |
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| 04:40.53 | tuvwx | isn't xfig going to get gtk'ed some day? |
| 04:41.38 | enouf | I know what an F-22 raptor is, but don't know how to fly it :-p |
| 04:41.40 | tuvwx | its combined ps/latex export is absolutely perfect |
| 04:42.19 | maher | tuvwx: yah - when someone wants to strip out the custom written in c widgets... |
| 04:42.47 | tuvwx | maher, ? |
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| 04:43.42 | maher | tuvwx: afaik xfig uses a bunch of its own widget code which would need to ported to gtk somehow |
| 04:45.32 | tuvwx | dondelelcaro, any particular advantages? if it takes multiple packages to do what xfig does alone, then it's got an advantage |
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| 04:47.00 | Faithful | Is dual head possible/easy for 945GM integrated Intel® Graphics? |
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| 04:49.07 | hellop | everyone know they found a cure for cancer |
| 04:49.23 | Malf | vista cures cancer!? |
| 04:49.34 | hellop | and its a cheap un-patented chemical |
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| 04:50.58 | roue | hola |
| 04:51.18 | tuvwx | hellop, are you serious? reference? |
| 04:51.28 | roue | anyone know why ssh keeps creating .serverauth.pid# files in my home directory whenever I ssh from an etch box? |
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| 04:52.18 | rpc | Malf no, not really - vista causes cancer ;) |
| 04:52.36 | Malf | I always get those two mixed up... cures and curses |
| 04:53.06 | hellop | tuvwx, fark, slashdot |
| 04:53.11 | hellop | yes serious |
| 04:53.28 | hellop | Cure for Cancer thread: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2576454 |
| 04:53.34 | rpc | hellop jokes about cancer aren't really this good |
| 04:53.37 | GNP | ok Im at pastebin.ca/upload.php I saved a file in my personal files (home) |
| 04:54.10 | GNP | but without a mouse can not access the browse button on the web page |
| 04:54.28 | Malf | you should be able to tab to it |
| 04:54.33 | Malf | it'll take a lot of tabbing but |
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| 04:54.49 | hellop | rpc aparently it is no joke, Univ of Alberta link on cancer cure: http://www.depmed.ualberta.ca/dca/ |
| 04:54.49 | Xorm | You could use a textmode browser. =\ |
| 04:54.54 | GNP | no it tabs from the file text box to the upload button skipping over the browse button |
| 04:55.00 | rpc | hellop hm |
| 04:55.51 | Xorm | (6aR,9R)-N,N-diethyl-7-methyl-4,6,6a,7,8,9- |
| 04:55.51 | Xorm | hexahydroindolo-[4,3-fg]quinoline-9-carboxamide |
| 04:56.11 | Xorm | omgsuperlongorganicnomenclature |
| 04:56.15 | Malf | you could try typing the path to the file directly into that box and uploading |
| 04:56.18 | rpc | hellop please note they are talking about tumor regression in human cancers growing in animals... |
| 04:56.25 | ice63 | i installed mplayer and iceweasel what plugin do i install ? |
| 04:56.28 | Malf | not sure why tab is skipping over the browse |
| 04:56.37 | rpc | hellop so your information is slightly misleading as no one tested that on human beings yet |
| 04:56.45 | ice63 | mozilla's |
| 04:56.50 | stew | GNP: use the arrow keys to move the cursor to browse and hit enter |
| 04:56.54 | hellop | rpc, ok, they found a cure for animal cancer |
| 04:57.03 | rpc | hellop wrong again |
| 04:57.11 | stew | hellop: rpc: please take it to a more appropriate channel |
| 04:57.13 | rpc | hellop it's a human cancer they grow in animals |
| 04:57.19 | rpc | stew true, ok. |
| 04:57.28 | GNP | Ive been trying arrow keys, tab, etc can not get the browse button to highlight |
| 04:58.06 | stew | GNP: try links2 |
| 04:58.19 | rpc | w3m is better |
| 04:58.22 | rpc | much better :) |
| 04:58.42 | rpc | you will certainly manage it with w3m, i use it often and been there many times |
| 04:58.43 | stew | rpc: well if he can't get it to move to a button using the arrow keys in w3m... |
| 04:59.01 | rpc | hm how come |
| 04:59.02 | stew | or install gpm and use "links2 -g" and you can even use your mouse! (to get help on making your mouse work) :) |
| 04:59.20 | rpc | i used to "click" and move around with keyb in w3m |
| 04:59.31 | jetscreamer | my kids dog died.. i got to move the body ohboy |
| 04:59.43 | rpc | jetscreamer sorry to hear that |
| 04:59.52 | GNP | Im just gonna start over tomorrow |
| 04:59.58 | rpc | poor kid, poor dog :/ and poor father too |
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| 05:00.03 | GNP | you guys have been a big help |
| 05:00.11 | GNP | and Im not being a smart ass I mean it |
| 05:00.24 | Malf | GNP: You can type the file path |
| 05:00.25 | jetscreamer | poor kid poor dog... poor dad is used to it :( |
| 05:00.27 | Malf | into that field |
| 05:00.29 | Malf | and submit it |
| 05:00.30 | rpc | ok, is there anything but BIND that i should consider when attempting to setup my own dns? |
| 05:00.32 | GNP | you have a lot of patients with a n00b |
| 05:00.34 | Malf | so you could just put in |
| 05:00.44 | GNP | I have no idea what the file path would be |
| 05:00.50 | rpc | jetscreamer doh |
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| 05:01.03 | Malf | /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 05:01.09 | jetscreamer | he was a good boy |
| 05:01.12 | Malf | and then submit |
| 05:01.40 | Malf | then you'll have to tab again down to submit post |
| 05:02.36 | Malf | I suppose it is getting late. Not a big deal if you want to try again tomorrow instead. |
| 05:02.36 | Rusty1 | rpc perhaps dnsmasq |
| 05:02.50 | rpc | Rusty1 is it worth trying or should i stick to BIND instead? just making sure i learn the right stuff |
| 05:03.00 | stew | P_Kable: please turn that off in here |
| 05:03.21 | GNP | sorry but the file you sent is more than 10% binary char in it guessing its a binary file and will be ignored |
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| 05:04.26 | Rusty1 | rpc http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html take a look |
| 05:04.33 | enouf | GNP: dude .. just reconfigure X using /dev/input/mice .. maybe .. make sure lsmod shows psmouse and mosuedev are loaded |
| 05:04.46 | enouf | er mousedev |
| 05:04.55 | dondelelcaro | tuvwx: the main advantages of inkscape is that it produces svg, which almost everything nowadays can deal with; tikz/pgf is actually rather specialized, as it's a latex/tex drawing environment... but if you do a lot of work in latex, it's quite useful |
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| 05:05.25 | GNP | I think Ill just redo it all tomorrow, my head hurts lol |
| 05:05.59 | GNP | I appreciate all the help you guys are great, its not your fault Im such a n00b at nix |
| 05:06.16 | Malf | GNP: Meh. Configuring X can be a bitch sometimes |
| 05:06.20 | Malf | especially when you're just starting |
| 05:06.22 | Malf | don't worry about it |
| 05:06.31 | GNP | be assured a donation will be sent to debian when its all said and done |
| 05:06.44 | enouf | GNP: don't feel bad .. and atleast you're sincerely trying .. there's a lot to learn indeed |
| 05:07.03 | enouf | !tell GNP -anout reference |
| 05:07.08 | enouf | !tell GNP -about reference |
| 05:07.39 | dondelelcaro | tuvwx: yeah, I personally find it really useful for doing diagrams in presentations, since it interleaves really nicely with latex beamer |
| 05:08.10 | GNP | ya it is a lot, I just figured out how to run my shoutcast server via ssh and stream live video |
| 05:08.35 | GNP | other than that html and windows is all Ive messed with |
| 05:08.35 | tuvwx | dondelelcaro, you won't have any problems with xfig for beamer. it's just that sometimes i need something programmable for things like state machine diagrams |
| 05:08.57 | enouf | maybe you can make a video about "how to configure your mouse" and broadcast it all over the world .. lol |
| 05:09.12 | GNP | hehe |
| 05:09.17 | rpc | Rusty1 thanks very much! |
| 05:09.23 | dondelelcaro | tuvwx: it'll show bits, but it's nice to be able to show and hide parts of the drawing on different slides |
| 05:10.00 | GNP | I have a usb wireless mouse what are the chances of hooking it up and it working off the bat? |
| 05:10.16 | tuvwx | dondelelcaro, ever tried xfig's combined pdf/latex export? |
| 05:10.23 | Malf | mine did |
| 05:10.28 | dondelelcaro | tuvwx: not recently, no |
| 05:11.11 | tuvwx | dondelelcaro, well true you won't be able to show parts of the drawings (only the text) |
| 05:11.14 | Malf | with udev, and I'm using /dev/input/mice as my mouse driver |
| 05:11.18 | Malf | rather than /dev/psaux |
| 05:11.25 | dansushi | how do i install a different locale withour installing debian from scratch like said here:http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~diffusor/xim/#locales |
| 05:11.27 | dondelelcaro | Malf: that's normal |
| 05:11.29 | dansushi | i'd like to install ja_JP.EUC-JP EUC-JP |
| 05:11.29 | dansushi | ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8 |
| 05:11.40 | dondelelcaro | Malf: /dev/input/mice also has the output from /dev/psaux |
| 05:11.44 | GNP | Ill be a sum bitch :( |
| 05:11.46 | Malf | dondelelcaro: Yeah I know. Just pointing it out for GNP |
| 05:11.58 | dondelelcaro | Malf: ah; carry on then. ;-) |
| 05:12.00 | Malf | heh |
| 05:12.05 | GNP | dont know why I didnt think up getting out my laptop mouse |
| 05:12.09 | Malf | which is why I have that and my ps2 mouse plugged in and working |
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| 05:12.59 | GNP | well at least now I have a mouse so tomorrow will be easier getting the ps2 mouse working |
| 05:13.07 | Malf | heh |
| 05:14.00 | tuvwx | dondelelcaro, i used to use jpicedt (or something like that) for changing pictures over slides, but that required pstricks afair |
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| 05:15.38 | dondelelcaro | tuvwx: archimdes.ucr.edu/ss/cmdb258_presentation_2006.pdf has a simple example of playing with pgf |
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| 05:16.23 | Diamond | Morning |
| 05:16.46 | tuvwx | dondelelcaro, server not found |
| 05:16.53 | Diamond | i'v got a problem i can't login as root by command su |
| 05:17.10 | Diamond | but i can login with as single user root |
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| 05:17.17 | Diamond | someone knows this problem? |
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| 05:18.14 | Azar | I got a burning question: right now I am very happy with sarge, I don't care if others say now or will say six months from now sarge is old, obsoleted etc. The main reason I am not attracted to etch is the "nvidia" issue which, sarge solved with the nvidia one-liner installation, and the change from xfree86 to xorg. Is there any light in the future that the nvidia installation for etch will be solved? |
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| 05:18.43 | duo_ | anyone know if there is a way that i can use kde icons theme in gnome? |
| 05:20.01 | Azar | so I take it I will have to wait and hope for an open video hardware to move up on etch? |
| 05:20.04 | GNP | http://pastebin.ca/333876 |
| 05:20.04 | craigevil | takes 2 minutes to install nvidia in etch using module-assistant |
| 05:20.33 | Azar | craigevil: same in sarge but I take it nvidia was taken out from etch |
| 05:20.50 | Azar | .... |
| 05:20.53 | craigevil | no i just installed it friday with the 8776 driver |
| 05:20.57 | Azar | !etch nvidia |
| 05:20.57 | dpkg | As of 2006-04-18, nvidia-graphics-drivers was removed from testing. Try getting the necessary files from http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/index.php. |
| 05:21.11 | craigevil | thats old |
| 05:21.15 | GNP | now to find that other file you guys wanted uploaded |
| 05:21.19 | Azar | ah? wow cool |
| 05:21.51 | Azar | ooookk then it will be fun and interesting |
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| 05:23.36 | Malf | I had some problems with my nvidia drivers once I updated my kernel and haven't had a chance to give it another go yet |
| 05:24.26 | craigevil | the steps here http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers are very clear and simple |
| 05:25.21 | GNP | http://pastebin.ca/333900 |
| 05:25.27 | Malf | I'll have to run through that this weekend |
| 05:25.40 | GNP | there are the pastebins of both those files |
| 05:25.42 | Malf | but for now, bed |
| 05:26.55 | GNP | might just be easier to buy another usb mouse lol |
| 05:27.43 | Malf | I think i had to have two config lines to get my ps2 mouse going in XFree86 |
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| 05:28.40 | Malf | anyway I'm out. I don't have the energy left for more X config fun tonight |
| 05:28.49 | Azar | my only reason I would upgrade to etch: more games :) |
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| 05:32.56 | Azar | well, craigevil, I used to install nvidia that way back when I was using Woody |
| 05:33.21 | karrotx | fenus |
| 05:33.21 | Diamond | Hi |
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| 05:33.23 | Azar | which asks me to have my gcc same as my kernel source version and stuff |
| 05:33.33 | Diamond | anyone knows why the command su doesn't work |
| 05:33.57 | Azar | secondly the wiki should update their stuff and advise people to use "aptitude" instead... |
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| 05:35.27 | wawowe | i'm trying to set up a router and other computers on the network can ping it but no internet access |
| 05:36.39 | wawowe | i have ip forword enabled |
| 05:37.31 | wawowe | i'm just don't know how to route my eth1 to eth2 |
| 05:37.58 | dendrite | wawowe: Use iptables, either MASQ (dynamic ip) or snat. |
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| 05:38.30 | voltranc | if i use "write" command to another user. how another user will answer me? |
| 05:38.35 | bariel | hello, how can i reinstall php with fribidi functionality? |
| 05:38.56 | dendrite | wawowe: The idea is you catch packets coming in from the lan, rewrite their source address to be the external IP, and off they go. |
| 05:39.04 | nvz | how the hell do I remove a plugin I installed using firefox's plugin finder thing? I see no way to bring that up like I can for extensions. |
| 05:39.23 | danf_1979 | Hi, where may I find out what type of protocol a given service uses? I'm trying my first time at iptables, so I dont really know if, for example, ssh uses udp or tcp only, etc... |
| 05:39.36 | bwlang | danf_1979: look in /etc/services |
| 05:39.39 | wawowe | dendrite: thanks |
| 05:39.58 | nvz | danf_1979: netstat might help too, see the manpage |
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| 05:40.11 | danf_1979 | aah bwlang, I had completely forgotten about that... and thanks also nvz |
| 05:40.17 | dendrite | danf_1979: It's not always obvious. As bwlang suggests, /etc/services can help suss that. ssh uses tcp. |
| 05:40.45 | Azar | checking my /etc/modules I do not see any "nvidia" module there but I see agpgart, is agpgart module keeping the nvidia module place? |
| 05:40.58 | danf_1979 | Ok, got it... I'll check that now |
| 05:41.00 | danf_1979 | thanks |
| 05:41.37 | bwlang | Azar: you might be using hotplug... to see what's loaded used lsmod. /etc/modules is only the list of forced modules if hotplug is in play |
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| 05:42.51 | Azar | bwlang: thanks |
| 05:43.46 | bariel | i tried to install phpize, but apt cant find it, how can i install it? |
| 05:44.11 | dondelelcaro | tuvwx: archimedes.ucr.edu/ss/cmdb258_presentation_2006.pdf, actually. |
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| 05:45.04 | Azar | woohoohoo!!! ipv6 running |
| 05:45.21 | wes | where can I download startx? |
| 05:45.30 | wes | somehow x tweakedout and deleted it |
| 05:45.34 | Azar | wes: startx is a command |
| 05:45.34 | wes | somehow |
| 05:45.37 | wes | I know |
| 05:45.54 | Azar | well then you need X |
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| 05:46.01 | hark | it's a part of xbase-clients |
| 05:46.14 | wes | I still have X I think |
| 05:46.19 | wes | somehow startx got deleted |
| 05:46.33 | hark | how did you install X? |
| 05:46.37 | wes | it was weird, the graphics like zoomed in really close |
| 05:46.50 | wes | and I am new so I hit ctrl alt delete rather than backspace |
| 05:46.54 | wes | and when I rebooted, bam startx was gone |
| 05:47.01 | positrix | wes: apt-get install x-window-system-core ? |
| 05:47.06 | bwlang | wes: uh... that shoudl not have deleted anything. |
| 05:47.13 | hark | bariel: php4-dev or php5-dev |
| 05:47.28 | bwlang | wes: ctrl-alt-delete causes an orderly shutdown in debian |
| 05:47.33 | wes | Hey I dont have all the answers |
| 05:47.38 | Azar | maybe he moved to a cli terminal using an Fn key :) |
| 05:47.41 | wes | I dont know how it happened |
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| 05:47.49 | bwlang | wes: try locate startx |
| 05:48.02 | wes | positrix: I think that did the trick |
| 05:48.05 | wes | I am back in fluxbox |
| 05:48.07 | wes | amazing |
| 05:48.10 | bwlang | sudo if you don't find it then follow the other's directions |
| 05:48.12 | wes | thank you. . |
| 05:48.51 | tuvwx | dondelelcaro, nice |
| 05:49.09 | tuvwx | dondelelcaro, except for the first few images.. |
| 05:49.35 | parsonsd | wes -- maybe a statement in PATH go lost so you cann't find startx |
| 05:49.59 | wes | parsonsd: I thought of that, but then I looked in /usr/bin and startx wasnt there anymore |
| 05:50.16 | positrix | I reinstalled last night, and now my keyboard is a bit messed up. I have a wierd L here I should have a hash, and " and @ got swapped. I assume this is becuase it thinks I have a european keyboard. How do I tell it otherwise? |
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| 05:51.16 | tronyx | question about rm, can it remove any file on the system that isnt write protected or just any file that the user owns? |
| 05:51.46 | LeFallen | tronyx: Only if you are root, can you remove files that you DON'T have write permission to. |
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| 05:52.23 | d0uglas | Hey now ppl. Looking to enable root logins in kdm, not seeing anything in the kontrol panel or whatever in kde.. is there a conf file somewhere i can edit? |
| 05:52.46 | d0uglas | kdm_config says it cannot be run manually |
| 05:52.48 | LeFallen | tronyx: You can howveer, remove a file that doesn't "belong" to you, if other has write or group has write and you're a member of the group owning the file. |
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| 05:53.36 | positrix | d0uglas: You're not supposed to lok in a root. It is considered naughty. |
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| 05:53.57 | bwlang | d0uglas: it's a bad idea... really. learn to use sudo |
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| 05:55.02 | d0uglas | yeah i know i know but please i'm curious |
| 05:55.07 | d0uglas | accademically |
| 05:55.15 | d0uglas | not actually gonna do anything as root obviously |
| 05:55.34 | d0uglas | besides why would i want to log in as root when gtk-gnutella must be run as nonroot :) |
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| 05:55.45 | Diamond | anyone knows why the command su doesn't work |
| 05:55.53 | Diamond | i can login as root by single user |
| 05:56.13 | Diamond | but dot with su |
| 05:56.24 | d0uglas | wait a sec does kubuntu even use kdm? |
| 05:56.26 | Diamond | password is incorrect |
| 05:56.27 | d0uglas | looks funny |
| 05:56.46 | bwlang | Diamond: have a look at /var/log/auth.log maybe you'll see something interesting |
| 05:56.48 | LeFallen | Diamond: I asssume you have execute permissions for su. |
| 05:57.14 | Diamond | debian says password incorrect of su |
| 05:57.20 | Diamond | su : root right ? |
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| 05:58.19 | bwlang | Diamond: are you entering your password or root's password? |
| 05:58.31 | Diamond | i enter roots password when i type su |
| 05:58.34 | hellop | is there a smart copy tool that can recover from errors? |
| 05:58.38 | zenwryly | I'm trying to write a regexp something like '\(local\)\!.\?group' which will match "foo group" but not "local group". '\(local\)!.\?group' doesn't work. Any suggestions? |
| 05:58.48 | bwlang | Diamond: should work... what does /var/log/auth.log say? |
| 05:59.03 | Diamond | Jan 30 22:09:01 DebianServer CRON[2538]: (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) |
| 05:59.03 | Diamond | Jan 30 22:09:01 DebianServer CRON[2539]: (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) |
| 05:59.03 | Diamond | Jan 30 22:09:01 DebianServer CRON[2538]: (pam_unix) session closed for user root |
| 05:59.03 | Diamond | Jan 30 22:09:01 DebianServer CRON[2539]: (pam_unix) session closed for user root |
| 05:59.03 | Diamond | Jan 30 22:17:01 DebianServer CRON[2555]: (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) |
| 05:59.20 | Diamond | one sec |
| 05:59.23 | bwlang | Diamond: don't paste lots of lines here. |
| 05:59.39 | bwlang | Diamond: put in in a pastebin like http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 06:00.18 | LeFallen | Does samba have/support/understand a "log on as service" flag? |
| 06:00.25 | hellop | Say you try to copy a large dir but one file chokes. You'd like to copy the rest of the files, but you don't know which dirs where copied. |
| 06:00.39 | hellop | So you have to manually look through them and check sizes.. |
| 06:00.42 | parsonsd | arg! iceweasel is holding my window hostage waiting to display a javascript dialog! |
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| 06:01.47 | hellop | Is there a better way? |
| 06:02.01 | Diamond | v |
| 06:02.03 | Diamond | http://www.pastebin.ca/333915 |
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| 06:02.11 | Diamond | that is what is sayinh |
| 06:02.18 | Diamond | http://www.pastebin.ca/333915 |
| 06:02.25 | positrix | aha. dpkg-reconfigure console-data allowed me to select the proper keyboard layout. |
| 06:03.45 | Diamond | bwlang : http://www.pastebin.ca/333915 that what it say when i use su command |
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| 06:06.24 | bwlang | Diamond: sorry - i don't see anything wrong... try this: ssh -l root localhost |
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| 06:07.14 | Diamond | bwlang thats working |
| 06:07.28 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'psmouse.o' returned no results. |
| 06:07.36 | bwlang | Diamond: i'm stumped. gotta sack out. best wishes |
| 06:07.46 | Diamond | thnx |
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| 06:08.09 | parsonsd | oh wack. iceweasel won't accept any mouse input, but ctrl+t brings up more tabs (that I can't use) |
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| 06:08.42 | Lord_Devi | I have a question about Xinerama. I am trying to get Dual Head working for the first time. 1 card, 2 monitors. I have it working I believe, however i can't drag from monitor to monitor |
| 06:09.15 | Lord_Devi | And each monitor has it's own 4 seperate virtual desktops, making me think maybe they are seperate instances, altho I only see one X in my process list. |
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| 06:09.24 | Lord_Devi | I was wondering if anyone might have some insight? |
| 06:10.12 | dondelelcaro | Lord_Devi: do you have an Option "Xinerama" "true" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
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| 06:10.47 | dondelelcaro | (dual head doesn't necessarily imply xinerama, although you've got to have multihead to have xinerama) |
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| 06:13.08 | hellop | should a bad hard drive, that is a non-system disk, make linux have kernel panic? |
| 06:14.13 | predder | was it mounted? |
| 06:14.26 | Lord_Devi | dond: No I don't have that xinerama true line.. |
| 06:14.36 | hellop | predder, yes copying files |
| 06:15.11 | Lord_Devi | Hrm I must have missed that in the faq/howto |
| 06:17.57 | Lord_Devi | Thanks dond |
| 06:18.45 | rpc | hellop yes |
| 06:19.08 | rpc | hellop try to disable DMA, might help sometimes |
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| 06:19.49 | Lord_Devi | Works perfectly now, woohoo |
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| 06:21.49 | Dark_Apostrophe | Does anyone know of any graphical apps with which one can write keyboard layouts, instead of editing .kmap files? |
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| 06:23.55 | cahoot | wasn't xkeycaps something in that line? |
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| 06:24.38 | hellop | whats the command to list just directories not files? |
| 06:24.46 | Dark_Apostrophe | cahoot: No idea... |
| 06:25.09 | hellop | like dir *. |
| 06:25.17 | stew | hellop: find -type d -maxdepth 1 |
| 06:25.23 | stew | Dark_Apostrophe: yes, xkeycaps |
| 06:25.31 | Dark_Apostrophe | cahoot: But not just for Xorg, I also need it for the CLI |
| 06:25.34 | Dark_Apostrophe | stew: ^ |
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| 06:26.48 | stew | Dark_Apostrophe: i don't know of any, i doubt one exists |
| 06:26.57 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ok.. |
| 06:27.02 | Dark_Apostrophe | Well, thanks anyway |
| 06:27.22 | DimmuR | morning |
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| 06:36.13 | sciboy | Anyone familiar with the BadRam kernel patch? |
| 06:39.03 | Asc | no, but it sure sounds like something I could use |
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| 06:39.12 | keram | is this mirror down or wut? ftp://ftp.us.debian.or |
| 06:39.15 | keram | .org* |
| 06:41.31 | Asc | it gives me a directory index |
| 06:42.09 | keram | since that one is down which can i use in its place? |
| 06:42.17 | Asc | so either it's now down, or it is down and a band of hackers has put up a seemingly-identical repository of compromised files |
| 06:42.29 | Asc | s/now/not |
| 06:43.04 | Asc | hm, badram page says it's included in Debian by default |
| 06:43.29 | Asc | maybe is time for me to try putting that fried stick back in the laptop. |
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| 06:43.56 | sciboy | Well how do i apply the kernel patch? I've never done this under debian before. |
| 06:43.57 | keram | thats odd |
| 06:44.33 | keram | well i know http://saens.debian.org/debian/ gives me a directory listings |
| 06:44.54 | keram | err i mean http://ftp.us.debian.org gives me a listing |
| 06:44.56 | LoneWlf | anyone have any hot tips for getting compiz to work under debian? I have a new installation, done off of goodbye-microsoft.com and its really starting to piss me off that it doesn't work ... *sighs* |
| 06:44.58 | LoneWlf | if I could get an error message I'd be a bit happier ;0) |
| 06:45.02 | keram | but ftp://ftp.us.debian.org doesnt :/ |
| 06:45.06 | LoneWlf | and by it doesn't work, I mean that I get to the part in the Wiki where you type 'compiz --replace' and the screen looses its windows decorations and then locks up... |
| 06:45.56 | keram | is anyone having the same problem?? |
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| 06:47.52 | d0uglas | to get wifi going after a boot or a dropped signal i have to do dhclient eth1... got ifplugd, waproamd (configged it to eth1).. nothing |
| 06:48.02 | Asc | keram: try going to 35.9.37.225 instead of ftp.us.debian.org |
| 06:48.07 | Asc | could be a nameserver problem |
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| 06:48.24 | Asc | because it sure works just fine for me |
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| 06:50.19 | d0uglas | asc: talking to me? |
| 06:50.23 | danf_1979 | This would be wrong for SMTP? => iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport smtp -m state --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT <= It need to be NEW,ESTABLISHED for it to be able to send email? |
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| 06:50.35 | d0uglas | nameservers are there from previous dhclient run before reboot in resolv.conf |
| 06:50.46 | d0uglas | ... eth1 is off though unless i do dhclient |
| 06:52.02 | keram | yeah thats probably it kuz its trying to go to 128.101.240.212 not that 35.9.37.225 one that yours is going to |
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| 06:56.52 | voltranc | i'll run a command but it sometimes take very much time to completed. how can i stop that command after 5 seconds if it doesn't complete the proccess? |
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| 06:58.05 | incorrect | what is the best ditributed compile system? |
| 06:58.22 | Xormic | distcc? |
| 06:58.28 | Xormic | it's the only one I know of. =p |
| 06:59.00 | incorrect | icecream is better than distcc, there is also teambuilder from trolltec |
| 06:59.08 | LeFallen | What a cool idea, I've got heaps of computers just lying around, I should compile X or something. |
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| 06:59.33 | incorrect | i need to setup a compile farm for my developers |
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| 07:03.07 | denyeverything | hi, is any debian cd coming with 2.6.18+? |
| 07:03.42 | sussudio | denyeverything: no. |
| 07:04.11 | parsonsd | denyeverything - no, but if you wanted it, you'd get apt to get it for you |
| 07:04.51 | denyeverything | parsonsd my problem is I'm using nvidia 430, and i think < 18 won't detect eth |
| 07:04.56 | bucky | !2.6.18 |
| 07:04.56 | dpkg | 2.6 |
| 07:06.23 | hark | the etch dailies (atleast netinst') have 2.6.18, iirc or try sarge with 2.6.18 |
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| 07:08.19 | denyeverything | hark thanks a lot. |
| 07:08.33 | TbbW | !null |
| 07:08.33 | dpkg | null's not |
| 07:08.37 | TbbW | lol |
| 07:08.47 | TbbW | !random |
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| 07:09.05 | TbbW | finds what? tell me! |
| 07:09.18 | parsonsd | hahahaha |
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| 07:11.13 | Raging_Hog | I've got problems with non-ascii chars. In some programs they show up as question marks even tho keymap is good and I can insert them and after that they're ok. Is that the programs' fault? |
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| 07:12.42 | dondelelcaro | Raging_Hog: are you using the right löcálȩ? |
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| 07:14.43 | insmod | Raging_Hog: sounds like suse lol |
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| 07:15.31 | Raging_Hog | löcálê seems good. Where can I check it? |
| 07:16.02 | dondelelcaro | Raging_Hog: that's the typical reason why you'll have issues like that; you're editing files that are in a different character encoding than your current locale, or similar. |
| 07:16.37 | dondelelcaro | Raging_Hog: however, if you're able to see what I just wrote, and enter it back in, you're probably ok. More details on exactly what information is showing up as question marks or boxes would be useful. [Not all fonts have every glyph, so that could be part of the problem too.] |
| 07:16.52 | Raging_Hog | well whattaya know, my lócäle isn't ok |
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| 07:17.37 | Raging_Hog | I'll try reconfiguring |
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| 07:20.02 | Raging_Hog | hmmm should I only have one locale? |
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| 07:20.31 | insmod | as many lang you will encounter |
| 07:20.35 | Raging_Hog | I added my own countrys locale next to the en_US but it doesn't seem to help |
| 07:21.29 | dondelelcaro | Raging_Hog: nah, you can have as many locales as you want. You'll just only be able to use one at a time per program. |
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| 07:23.04 | Raging_Hog | fi_FI.UTF-8... done Generation complete. perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" |
| 07:23.15 | Raging_Hog | tried to use only fi_FI locale and it gave me that |
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| 07:33.03 | Raging_Hog | eclipse seems to be ok now, but I'm having rock-hard time with samba mounting |
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| 07:35.04 | draga | I've a question, perhaps a FAQ but I can't find any info around: when will 2.6.19 be included in sid? |
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| 07:35.08 | sciboy | Bugger can't get it to compile. =( |
| 07:35.23 | incorrect | where is a good step by step guide to creating a .deb? |
| 07:35.33 | incorrect | i just found one that dated by to 1997 |
| 07:36.04 | hark | draga: probably after etch releases |
| 07:37.36 | draga | hark: ok, thank you. I thought it was because of some problems with that revision. |
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| 07:42.37 | Supaplex | ewps, i tripped on the cord :( |
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| 07:43.00 | hark | !blame Supaplex |
| 07:43.06 | hellop | Uncompressing Linux... invalid compressed format (err=1) -- System halted... is this bad? |
| 07:43.43 | nvz | hellop: is bad still the oppisite of good? |
| 07:43.45 | sciboy | Crap |
| 07:43.56 | sciboy | mm/page_alloc.c:2533: error: ‘mem_map’ undeclared (first use in this function) |
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| 07:45.25 | hellop | huh... it went further this time... maybe I have a hardware error |
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| 07:47.35 | hellop | so, I guess I have to reinstall |
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| 07:48.06 | hellop | it happened when I was copying from a bad HD to another drive.. now the system wont boot.. |
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| 07:48.20 | hellop | I wonder if a bad HD could fry a MB.. like draw too much power or something. |
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| 07:49.02 | `ns` | I had a bad HD which would lock up motherboards .... |
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| 07:50.56 | hellop | destroy them, or just temporary? |
| 07:51.29 | parsonsd | must have been one of those failures..... |
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| 07:52.16 | `ns` | they would just lock up solid. Would work fine when the drive was removed |
| 07:52.28 | eisen_ | it may have not been the hd going bad but the controller on the mobo |
| 07:52.52 | eisen_ | it's very unlikely that a hd could fry a board imho |
| 07:52.55 | `ns` | that was an interesting experience .... I tried to run ntpdate and it killed X |
| 07:53.21 | `ns` | think I'll try again :) |
| 07:53.37 | parsonsd | `ns` : bye. :) |
| 07:53.43 | shingouz | hellop: did you install the boot sector on the new hd? just copying the files over does not make the new drive bootable |
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| 07:54.04 | `ns` | parsonsd, it worked fine that time ..... wierd |
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| 07:54.39 | Guerin | http://tuc.swaziboy.com/Bill.jpg # this is the state of the internet in New Zealand |
| 07:54.54 | Guerin | and, yes, xtra is the formerly-government-owned monopoly |
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| 07:55.29 | Logansan | Hello World! ;) |
| 07:55.40 | parsonsd | Guerin : yikes! |
| 07:56.09 | Guerin | parsonsd: formerly govt-owned - now the most profitable company in NZ |
| 07:56.09 | shingouz | Guerin: they bill the transferred data too? jfc! |
| 07:56.14 | Guerin | yeah, privatisation is a GREAT idea |
| 07:56.18 | shingouz | most profitable.. no wonder... |
| 07:56.24 | Logansan | i'm first-timer here! :) |
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| 07:57.17 | hellop | shingouz, no my system drive is a CF memory card.. I was copying between 2 other drives, hen I got kernel panic. |
| 07:57.43 | `ns` | Guerin, nasty ! Provider I am with here in Canada charges $1/gig for excess |
| 07:57.46 | Supaplex | cf cards don't play well with bus resets :( |
| 07:57.50 | Guerin | Logansan: /quit, and next time that won't be true. |
| 07:57.54 | hellop | System drive would then not boot like 10 times, but it's working now after reseating. |
| 07:58.22 | Guerin | `ns`: yeah, mine charges NZ$3/G for overage, but my cap is 20G to begin with |
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| 07:59.26 | shingouz | luckily i do not have a cap at all. caps suck |
| 07:59.53 | `ns` | Guerin, not a bad cap, depending on what you are doing online. Won't cover heavy usenet, etc |
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| 08:00.11 | Guerin | `ns`: i normally burn about 3/4 of it in the first week of any given month |
| 08:00.19 | Guerin | yes, caps do suck |
| 08:00.32 | Guerin | however NZ is the third world as far as telecommunications are concerned |
| 08:00.48 | Guerin | mostly because of the fucking monopoly, which is only this year being regulated |
| 08:01.12 | parsonsd | Guerin : perhaps you should consider getting into telecom there. |
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| 08:01.20 | parsonsd | Guerin : sounds rather lucrative |
| 08:01.20 | Guerin | parsonsd: ? |
| 08:01.21 | shingouz | monopolies do have the tendency to screw up things |
| 08:01.25 | `ns` | NZ is just too far from anywhere else ..... expensive running lines to anywhere |
| 08:01.36 | Guerin | parsonsd: yeah, me and everyone else wants in on that pie |
| 08:01.46 | hark | Guerin: just one ISP? |
| 08:01.50 | Guerin | telstra, the australian monopoly, is the least-worst option |
| 08:02.44 | Guerin | hark: no, there are a ton of isps - but where cable hasn't yet been laid (95% of the country), all the other ISPs have to wholesale DSL bandwidth off xtra - at marginally lower rates than we get it as consumers |
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| 08:02.55 | Maliuta | Guerin: it's not an ISP monopoly |
| 08:02.58 | Guerin | i am fortunate enough to live within reach of the cables |
| 08:03.02 | Maliuta | they just own 99.9% of the copper |
| 08:03.06 | Guerin | Maliuta: no, it's a telecommunications monopoly. |
| 08:03.12 | Guerin | Maliuta: yes. |
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| 08:03.44 | Maliuta | that soooo should have been kept away from them in the privatisation |
| 08:03.49 | Guerin | yes |
| 08:03.56 | Maliuta | privatise the service provision all you want |
| 08:03.56 | Guerin | but it was the 80s |
| 08:04.05 | Maliuta | '90s |
| 08:04.11 | Maliuta | Howard did helstra |
| 08:04.16 | Maliuta | not us |
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| 08:04.27 | Maliuta | we did CommBank |
| 08:04.42 | Guerin | bleached spiky hair, blue shirts with white collars, and evil deregulation |
| 08:05.01 | Maliuta | sounds like the libs to me |
| 08:05.05 | Maliuta | :) |
| 08:05.14 | Guerin | only two good things came out of the 1980s: sonic youth, and the pixies |
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| 08:05.29 | Guerin | oh, and nick cave, I suppose |
| 08:05.30 | Maliuta | The Smiths |
| 08:05.36 | Guerin | though i think he got going in the 70s\ |
| 08:05.40 | Guerin | nah, fuck the smiths |
| 08:05.41 | Maliuta | Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus |
| 08:05.42 | sciboy | http://paste.husk.org/7637 |
| 08:05.48 | Guerin | whinging motherfuckers |
| 08:05.54 | Guerin | no time for goth music either |
| 08:06.10 | `ns` | Dayglo Abortions , DOA, Dead Kennedys ? |
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| 08:06.15 | Maliuta | I have no time for mainstream wank |
| 08:06.33 | Guerin | yeah, DK had their moments, mostly when Jello wasn't orating |
| 08:06.57 | Guerin | all punk is mainstream |
| 08:07.06 | Guerin | some just has the decency to not pretend otherwise |
| 08:07.11 | Guerin | sorry, I should say all 80s punk |
| 08:07.30 | `ns` | Attila The Stockbroker :) |
| 08:07.35 | Guerin | heh |
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| 08:08.31 | Arafangion | How do I reconfigure the urxvt menu entry to NOT use Xft, because that looks exceptionally blurry. |
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| 08:09.04 | Guerin | Arafangion: which urxvt menu entry? |
| 08:09.29 | Arafangion | Guerin: The one that, coincidently, specifies Xft ;) |
| 08:09.39 | starz | how is the support for ndiswrapper + prism2 chipset wireless cards? |
| 08:09.42 | Guerin | Arafangion: solution: don't use it |
| 08:09.51 | Guerin | starz: ndiswrapper=shit |
| 08:09.53 | Supaplex | starz: why? prism2 is native |
| 08:09.54 | Arafangion | Guerin: Ok, let me rephrase. |
| 08:10.00 | Guerin | get a real card, like a ralink |
| 08:10.00 | starz | um |
| 08:10.09 | starz | migrating from ubuntu on this particular box |
| 08:10.12 | Arafangion | Guerin: How do I configure a menu item so that it starts urxvt with the colours I like? :) |
| 08:10.45 | starz | dlink air dwl-520 card sux over there w/o ndiswrapper ... also had to use the alternate install cd.. hoping that the normal install cd will work over here.. |
| 08:10.50 | Arafangion | starz: Use whatever works, if it works keep it to yourself. |
| 08:11.06 | Arafangion | starz: On the other hand, if you need advise, then get something that actually supports Linux. |
| 08:11.08 | starz | Arafangion use what works and if it works tell those who wanna know ~_~ |
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| 08:11.37 | Guerin | Arafangion: ah, a much more sensible question. I don't know how to configure the menu item, probably in /usr/share/menu/ or something; the way to make urxvt Just So is to put your preferred config in .xresources and call xrdb -merge ~/.xresources in .xsession |
| 08:11.40 | starz | Arafangion as its the card that came with the computer and its not my personal computer i find myself asking if the chipset is supported which supposedly it is? |
| 08:11.51 | starz | sigh. |
| 08:12.24 | Guerin | starz: my response was an oblique way of saying `i don't use ndiswrapper because it's shit, sorry' |
| 08:12.38 | Arafangion | starz: People confuse "support" with "Somehow works despite major hack jobs and crap drivers" |
| 08:12.38 | Guerin | so i'd suggest ... |
| 08:12.39 | Guerin | !hcl |
| 08:12.56 | Guerin | dpkg: hello? |
| 08:13.02 | Guerin | *sigh* |
| 08:13.09 | starz | which i understood fine.. and if it WORKS natively thats all i need to know.. |
| 08:13.15 | starz | but the more i listen the less i know |
| 08:13.16 | Maliuta | starz: I managed to get one of thoser working |
| 08:13.19 | hark | ~hi |
| 08:13.20 | apt | hello, hark |
| 08:13.26 | Arafangion | Guerin: So, where can I read about that? I do not have xrdp installed. |
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| 08:13.29 | Guerin | ~hcl |
| 08:13.31 | apt | http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpaqHardwareCompatibility |
| 08:13.34 | starz | Maliuta did you get it working via the built in stuff? |
| 08:13.41 | Maliuta | starz: I used it for about 3 months, then got a better chipset :) |
| 08:13.59 | Maliuta | starz: no, external driver ... I _think_ it was madwifi |
| 08:14.05 | Guerin | Arafangion: xrdb is in xbase-clients. If you google urxvt xresources you'll see some samples. |
| 08:14.13 | Maliuta | starz: no ndiswrapper |
| 08:14.16 | starz | hm |
| 08:14.29 | starz | yeah exactly what i had to do on the other setup |
| 08:14.33 | Arafangion | Guerin: I would've just liked to be able to change "urxvt foo" to "urxvt betterFoo" system wide. |
| 08:14.34 | Maliuta | ot was the the oddball chip??? |
| 08:14.37 | starz | and for the record i agree this card is a pos |
| 08:14.51 | incorrect | how can i list the packages that are installed? |
| 08:14.52 | Maliuta | yeah it was crappy |
| 08:15.00 | Arafangion | starz: dpkg -l |
| 08:15.00 | Maliuta | incorrect: dpkg -l |
| 08:15.12 | incorrect | ty |
| 08:15.21 | Arafangion | incorrect: Or dpkg --get-selections |
| 08:15.31 | Maliuta | starz: is the the rtXXXX chipset? |
| 08:15.35 | starz | um |
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| 08:15.39 | starz | one second Malagmyr |
| 08:15.43 | starz | Maliuta rather |
| 08:16.27 | Maliuta | I have that card in the next room, it hasn't had power to it for about 2 years though ... I refuse to stick it in a machine |
| 08:16.28 | hark | Arafangion: try /usr/share/menu/ and edit rxvt-unicode |
| 08:16.35 | incorrect | thanks :) |
| 08:17.15 | Arafangion | hark: Perfect :) Thanks. |
| 08:17.22 | starz | 0000:00:0b.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01) |
| 08:17.22 | starz | Subsystem: D-Link System Inc DWL-520 Wireless PCI Adapter, Rev E1 |
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| 08:17.39 | Guerin | Arafangion: you can specify any such thing in the file |
| 08:17.43 | Guerin | oh, as hark said |
| 08:17.44 | Maliuta | prism should "just work(tm)" |
| 08:18.00 | starz | Maliuta so sayeth the ppl |
| 08:18.02 | Maliuta | as in if you compile it in or as a module from stock source |
| 08:18.04 | starz | so sayeth we all |
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| 08:18.19 | Maliuta | pretty sure my netgrear is a prism54 |
| 08:18.23 | Steven_M | hi all |
| 08:18.27 | Arafangion | Ironically, OpenBSD's wifi support is supposed to be one of the best of the OSS OS's. |
| 08:18.42 | Maliuta | starz: have are you using it as a module? |
| 08:18.45 | starz | Maliuta ive got no exprience with making wireless work in debian: gonna do a server + icewm + x-window-system-core isntall |
| 08:18.49 | starz | what else do i need? |
| 08:18.54 | Maliuta | Arafangion: support for what? |
| 08:19.15 | Maliuta | starz: you need to read the iwconfig man page |
| 08:19.18 | hark | starz: a dm? |
| 08:19.41 | Arafangion | Maliuta: Wifi devices, using completely free drivers. |
| 08:19.46 | Maliuta | starz: iwconfig <eth-dev> essid <ssid> .... |
| 08:19.49 | starz | Maliuta i know how to get the card itself working i mean what package |
| 08:20.05 | starz | so no extra packages its in there on the server install?? |
| 08:20.17 | Maliuta | starz: just the iwconfig one |
| 08:20.35 | Maliuta | otherwise it's treated just like etherner |
| 08:20.37 | starz | i also have the windows driver on the box as its a windows dual boot box if needed |
| 08:20.38 | Maliuta | ethernet |
| 08:20.47 | starz | but ok i'll add iwconfig to that then |
| 08:20.59 | markybob | does anyone have any real advice on creating registration numbers? for the life of me i cant seem to figure out how to deploy a method that cant be cracked and a keygen written for. |
| 08:21.03 | starz | cause its not gonna get anything from apt till i get that card working XD |
| 08:21.18 | Arafangion | markybob: Such a method does not exist. |
| 08:21.40 | Maliuta | markybob: go do some large number theory |
| 08:21.40 | markybob | Arafangion, so what is there left to do? |
| 08:21.42 | Arafangion | markybob: But the most difficult method to crack is to use an encrypted dongle. |
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| 08:22.10 | Arafangion | markybob: Then learn that Vista *already* has been cracked, and the security features bypassed. |
| 08:22.41 | d0uglas | whatever is in /etc/init.d must be in a script form, not just a text file of, say, /usr/sbin/dhclient? |
| 08:22.51 | d0uglas | what's the autoexec.bat of linux |
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| 08:23.05 | markybob | !update-rc.d |
| 08:23.13 | Arafangion | d0uglas: init |
| 08:23.19 | Arafangion | d0uglas: Which is a program. |
| 08:24.03 | Arafangion | d0uglas: Different distros sometimes use different init's, so it's impossible to say what is *the* autoexec.bat of linux, especially since there is no relation or comparison. |
| 08:25.19 | d0uglas | not much of a man page for init.. all i want is dhclient to run on boot, any way to do that? |
| 08:25.29 | markybob | d0uglas, man update-rc.d |
| 08:25.39 | d0uglas | ok |
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| 08:25.48 | Supaplex | d0uglas: that's unless you reall should be editing /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:25.54 | Supaplex | d0uglas: man 5 interfaces |
| 08:26.00 | blondie | if you set your interface to use dhcp, dhclient should run on boot anyway |
| 08:26.09 | Supaplex | exactly =) |
| 08:27.20 | Steven_M | does anyone know where I can get an iso for a usb boot cd, for computers that don't support usb booting? |
| 08:28.01 | markybob | Steven_M, huh. now that's interesting. i never would've thought of that. why dont you just use a boot cd instead, since you'll be using a boot cd to begin with? |
| 08:28.23 | Arafangion | markybob: How would he boot it then, doesn't he need a usb key to do that? |
| 08:28.38 | Supaplex | Steven_M: the debian-installer can do that. |
| 08:28.39 | d0uglas | okay cool |
| 08:28.41 | d0uglas | thanks fellas |
| 08:29.11 | Supaplex | Steven_M: well, does booting cd work? |
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| 08:31.05 | d0uglas | blondie: lot of lines on interfaces, the top two are auto eth1, inet eth1 inet dhcp (followed by a bunch of other lines)... is that correct or should i go ahead and man the thing |
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| 08:32.00 | d0uglas | well actually eth1 was futher down the list originally, i tried moving it up to the top to see if that would get the wireless working |
| 08:32.14 | d0uglas | simply running dhclient as root without even specifying eth1 does the trick |
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| 08:33.28 | Steven_M | Supaplex: how do i get the debian installer to do a usb boot |
| 08:33.31 | Steven_M | ? |
| 08:33.34 | d0uglas | <--- manning |
| 08:33.53 | d0uglas | hmm, allow hotplug |
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| 08:36.18 | Supaplex | Steven_M: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ |
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| 08:38.33 | d0uglas | all right gonna try this out |
| 08:38.33 | d0uglas | thanks again |
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| 08:43.16 | BassFool | hello all, I just compiled in the 2.6.19 version of debian and I get a atckb.c Spurious message. I have seen the info on the net but no solutions that I could find. Can anyone help? |
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| 08:45.00 | Supaplex | yea, regress to a stable kernel. or, try a backport. |
| 08:45.12 | BassFool | backport? |
| 08:45.23 | BassFool | so go with sarge instead of testing? |
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| 08:45.46 | Supaplex | no, not sarge. something else that works. *g* |
| 08:46.06 | njkt | Hi, i'm trying to get ndiswrapper working on my Etch system but i'm getting compile errors.. http://rafb.net/p/wM4jGn28.html I was following the instructions on the Wiki webpage, its on an amd64 and uses the 2.6.20rc6 kernel' |
| 08:46.09 | hark | BassFool: ask #kernel |
| 08:46.19 | BassFool | ok I will sure... |
| 08:46.21 | BassFool | thanks |
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| 08:46.59 | Supaplex | BassFool: generally when the latest and greatest don't work, you scale back. when you isolate it, (see linux docs, Documentation/BUG-HUNTING), you make progress. |
| 08:47.06 | hark | did you mean atkbd.c? |
| 08:47.17 | BassFool | yes atkbd.c |
| 08:47.33 | hark | ~typosmite BassFool |
| 08:47.44 | BassFool | sorry hehe |
| 08:47.44 | Supaplex | lol |
| 08:47.48 | tuvwx | why doesn't debian's gnuplot support the pdf terminal? |
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| 08:49.46 | keeganX | Does anyone know about gslist |
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| 08:50.02 | cydork | njkt: why 2.6.20?? what happens with etch kernel? |
| 08:50.38 | njkt | with my laptop it doesn't work very well |
| 08:50.56 | njkt | the only kernel that's remained "stable" is the 2.6.20 release |
| 08:51.37 | BassFool | Ahh where is the 2.6.20. The latest one I saw on the kernel page was 2.6.19...? |
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| 08:52.11 | Supaplex | then 2.6.20 is hype. murder the rumor mill. |
| 08:52.27 | njkt | BassFool: on the kernel website /pub/2.6/testing/ |
| 08:52.42 | tarzeau | tuvwx: or readline tab completion |
| 08:52.49 | BassFool | hm how long cause I got 2.6.19 earlier tonight |
| 08:52.53 | BassFool | let me check again |
| 08:52.58 | tarzeau | BassFool: i also have that atckb.c problem |
| 08:53.04 | njkt | location is liberal.. i forgot the exact path heh |
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| 08:53.29 | cydork | njkt: i dont know about 2.6.20 but try googling :P |
| 08:53.40 | tarzeau | cydork: it's not released yet, still rc6 |
| 08:54.03 | cydork | tarzeau: yep i meant the rc6 |
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| 08:54.29 | BassFool | ok I found the 2.6.20, so is the stable one -rc6? |
| 08:54.55 | njkt | its not stable yet, still a release candidate |
| 08:54.58 | hark | heh, no it's not stable yet ;) |
| 08:55.01 | Supaplex | rc = reelase candidate |
| 08:55.03 | tarzeau | BassFool: no |
| 08:55.12 | BassFool | oh ok rc is release candidate ahh ok.. |
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| 08:56.09 | BassFool | man, so is there anything out there that doesn't have the atkbd.c error... any of you using a 2.6.20 release? |
| 08:56.25 | tarzeau | BassFool: 2.6.18 |
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| 08:56.31 | tarzeau | or 2.6.17 even |
| 08:56.38 | BassFool | ok 2.6.18 it is.. |
| 08:56.46 | tarzeau | BassFool: haven't tried the 2.6.20-rc yet, waiting for the stable release of it to try |
| 08:56.51 | cydork | tuvwx: check the source package if it was configured with --with-pdf, i dont think so. |
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| 08:57.18 | cableroy | how do i make gcc compile 64bit? |
| 08:57.31 | tuvwx | cydork, that's the actual question, why so? |
| 08:58.25 | cydork | tuvwx: ask the maintainer :P |
| 08:58.47 | hark | tuvwx: /usr/share/doc/ mention anything? |
| 08:58.48 | BassFool | also, what are the .sign extensions for? |
| 08:59.23 | tuvwx | hark, looked pretty fast there.. couldn't find anything obvious |
| 09:00.01 | hark | hmm, or you could file a bug report/wishlist |
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| 09:02.00 | d0uglas | my runit stuff is all messed up, something to do with /etc/inittab .. can't reinstall/reconfig it, any ideas? |
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| 09:03.40 | BassFool | tarzeau: .sign extension? |
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| 09:04.31 | tarzeau | BassFool: no idea about it. what says file on it? or your brain when you look at it in an editor? |
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| 09:05.11 | BassFool | I just downloaded the one without the .sign extension.. doing a wget on it now. I assume all the patches are already in this correct? |
| 09:06.14 | d0uglas | I can't do anything because runit is broken, no /etc/inittab.. help |
| 09:08.15 | azeem | d0uglas: why did you install runit? |
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| 09:08.39 | d0uglas | azeem: dont remember doing that, did install xinit i think |
| 09:08.48 | d0uglas | azeem: am i completey broked here? |
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| 09:09.11 | d0uglas | can i touch an /etc/inittab? |
| 09:09.40 | Alver | Hello... can someone point me to an (archived) woody mirror? I have to install an extra package on an old beast that I'm not allowed to update. |
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| 09:10.15 | d0uglas | azeem: huh.. touched inittab and it's done. :) |
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| 09:11.03 | yunhual | hi, after run aclocal, i got a file named aclocal.m4. relly not know what is role of this file ? |
| 09:12.24 | azeem | yunhual: why did you run aclocal? |
| 09:12.53 | yunhual | i am study gnu automake |
| 09:12.59 | yunhual | and autoconf utilitys |
| 09:13.28 | azeem | it should be described in the manual |
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| 09:14.24 | yunhual | yes, i try to find some info through google, but after read it, i am fell some question. |
| 09:14.31 | yunhual | sorry for my english. |
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| 09:15.17 | azeem | yunhual: try to read the autobook, apt-get install autobook |
| 09:16.12 | yunhual | azeem, thank you |
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| 09:17.25 | Alver | Ah, found one. |
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| 09:25.17 | cableroy | How do i upgrade from i386 to 64bit? i can't find the apt source |
| 09:25.33 | Theory | anyone else having issues with xorg in sid? |
| 09:25.45 | karsten | cableroy: Um. In hardware? |
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| 09:25.54 | karsten | Theory: Just ask. Like what? |
| 09:26.06 | cableroy | karsten, the packages |
| 09:26.37 | cableroy | the system... |
| 09:26.47 | karsten | cableroy: Install a 64 bit kernel. IIUC your architecture should dectect and present itself to apt as 64 bit. |
| 09:26.59 | cableroy | i do run xen kernel |
| 09:27.12 | cableroy | thats why i need to upgrade system so i can get 64bit xen |
| 09:27.24 | Theory | karsten: kdm works fine, however attempting to login, or attempting to startx as user results in X stopping |
| 09:27.33 | Theory | no log messages I can find |
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| 09:27.51 | lately | Can anyone recommend a few DNS servers with LDAP backend? |
| 09:27.58 | karsten | Theory: ~/.xsession-errors or /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 09:28.33 | Theory | karsten: former is empty, latter shows nothing unusual |
| 09:28.46 | karsten | Theory: Probably something in your startup. Try a "safe-mode" X session (just an xterm, no windowmanager). |
| 09:28.56 | Theory | karsten: does exactly the same |
| 09:29.18 | karsten | Theory: Create a new user (just for testing) and try logging in as same. |
| 09:29.35 | cableroy | How do i a arch upgrade with debian? |
| 09:29.41 | Theory | yeah, just tried that, and it works |
| 09:29.53 | karsten | Theory: OK, then it's not your system, it's you ;-) |
| 09:29.54 | Theory | so, time to figure out what is broken in my profile |
| 09:30.03 | karsten | Theory: Right. |
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| 09:30.22 | karsten | Theory: Got an ~/.xsession, ~/.xinitrc, or ~/.Xsession file (or anything similar)? |
| 09:30.24 | TRTint | i have installed debian 3.1 |
| 09:30.29 | karsten | !win TRTint |
| 09:30.48 | karsten | Feh, dumb bot.... |
| 09:31.14 | TRTint | i want use the Debian server as Print/file share, PDC |
| 09:31.29 | karsten | TRTint: OK, that's Samba. |
| 09:31.32 | TRTint | yes |
| 09:32.01 | karsten | TRTint: There's an excellent set of Samba docs that pretty much walks you through that. aptitude install samba-doc |
| 09:32.45 | karsten | Theory: If it's something affecting even a failsafe, I'd also look at Xresources and similar. Can you startx from console OK? |
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| 09:33.53 | karsten | Theory: It's way past bedtime here, I'm out. Good luck. |
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| 09:36.23 | Theory | karsten: cheers, sorted now |
| 09:36.42 | Theory | was .xinitrc being "interesting" |
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| 09:38.18 | Theory | well, that was part of the problem anyway... |
| 09:38.34 | capiira | hrrrr still no etch stable |
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| 09:40.14 | TRTint | i have installed Debian with http-install, my screenmode is now 640x480 73Hz , i cant change the resolution, what can be the problem |
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| 09:40.53 | capiira | maybe a fixed resolution writen in xorg? |
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| 09:41.11 | cahoot | TRTint: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (or xfree86) -plow |
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| 09:41.47 | Theory | hrm, if you said "no space left in /home" then you are winner |
| 09:41.49 | davi__ | Is it possible disable the SASL check to the slapd LDAP server? |
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| 09:42.23 | lately | davi__ Try ldapsearch -x ? |
| 09:42.34 | davi__ | thanks lately |
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| 09:45.18 | LLcoolM | does any use for mtrr other than by graphic cards? |
| 09:45.30 | LLcoolM | or can nics be also speeded up? |
| 09:45.55 | Arafangion | LLcoolM: Why not ask on the mailing lists? |
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| 09:46.27 | LLcoolM | because i compile the kernel now, if i ask now, i will recieve an answer when it is already too late |
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| 09:46.51 | Arafangion | LLcoolM: That doesn't make sense. |
| 09:46.56 | Arafangion | LLcoolM: What's your native language? |
| 09:47.24 | LLcoolM | Arafangion: doesnt matter :) i probably skipped a "there" |
| 09:47.37 | petemc | made sense to me.. |
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| 09:48.06 | Arafangion | Perhaps "will i" should be "i will"? |
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| 09:48.52 | LLcoolM | Arafangion: because i compile the kernel now, if i ask there now, i will recieve an answer when it is already too late |
| 09:49.17 | LLcoolM | syntax: check, grammar: check, contents: check |
| 09:49.23 | Nemoder_ | Is it possible to dualboot between i386 and amd64 without using separate partitions? |
| 09:49.31 | Arafangion | LLcoolM: All checks pass :) |
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| 09:49.46 | dubis | #debain-fr |
| 09:49.57 | dubis | hello |
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| 09:50.05 | Hoxzer | ;) |
| 09:50.22 | dubis | What is the name of the channel of DEbain in French |
| 09:50.33 | LLcoolM | Nemoder_: difficult, however many linux distributions can run 32 and 64 bit binaries at the same time where the cpu supports it |
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| 09:51.11 | LLcoolM | dubis: debian not debain |
| 09:51.18 | LLcoolM | at least last time i checked :) |
| 09:51.52 | Nemoder_ | LLcoolM: well I currently have i386 running on an amd64 cpu system, i'd like to install the amd64 base programs without wiping the current install |
| 09:52.19 | cahoot | !fr |
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| 09:52.29 | MindCr | dubis, #debian-fr |
| 09:52.34 | LLcoolM | Nemoder_: hm, are you sure you want that? |
| 09:52.49 | LLcoolM | 64bit only makes sense in case you have a lot of ram (>2GB) |
| 09:52.55 | Nemoder_ | LLcoolM: I used debootstrap to download the files to a seperate dir but I'm not sure how to boot to it |
| 09:53.01 | hannes__ | has the apache-ssl package anything todo with apache2? or does is the apache-ssl package part of the old apache package? |
| 09:53.37 | Nemoder_ | LLcoolM: I just want to play with it (which is why I want to keep 32bit the way it is) |
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| 09:54.14 | LLcoolM | Nemoder_: then don't it is as simple as that. It is slower and has virtually no advantages other than some additional quirks |
| 09:54.42 | Nemoder_ | LLcoolM: :( |
| 09:55.00 | LLcoolM | never touch a running system (without a good reason) |
| 09:55.09 | LLcoolM | and this reason is no good |
| 09:55.33 | Nemoder_ | the reason is to learn how it works.. |
| 09:56.16 | LLcoolM | Nemoder_: a lot of drivers make problems with 64-bit, you cannot run 32-bit windows binaries with a 64bit wine, some software doesnt even compile - just to name a few of the problems you are going to have if you try |
| 09:56.31 | Nemoder_ | yeah I know about some of the issues |
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| 09:56.49 | LLcoolM | Nemoder_: it doesnt work any different from the application perspective |
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| 09:57.06 | Nemoder_ | that's why I wanted to dualboot instead of changing the whole system |
| 09:57.54 | Nemoder_ | I suppose I could just repartition the existing drive but that always makes me nervous |
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| 09:57.56 | LLcoolM | Nemoder_: you need another partition I'm afraid - at least for debian |
| 09:58.21 | LLcoolM | Nemoder_: another suggestion: get an additional drive |
| 09:58.40 | Nemoder_ | might do that too |
| 09:59.26 | LLcoolM | but as i said, i've been through all this and i was disappointed. I thought it would at least boost disc cryptography - in fact it slowed it down :( |
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| 10:00.20 | Arafangion | LLcoolM: Yes, why would it speed it up? |
| 10:00.35 | Arafangion | LLcoolM: Current algorithms are very highly tuned to 32-bit operation. |
| 10:00.50 | Arafangion | LLcoolM: And using 64-bit simply *doubles* the size of pointers, as a minimum. |
| 10:01.01 | LLcoolM | Arafangion: well, both x86 and x86_64 versions were assembly optimized |
| 10:01.19 | Arafangion | So? |
| 10:01.28 | Arafangion | I'm talking *algorithms* here. |
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| 10:01.55 | gebruiker_ | I want to add a init script to my system |
| 10:02.01 | gebruiker_ | but it only has to start when it boots |
| 10:02.04 | gebruiker_ | how do I do that? |
| 10:02.10 | Arafangion | :) |
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| 10:02.24 | LLcoolM | thing is: a lot of xor operations occur in those algorithms and if you need to do an xor in 256bit size you need 4x64bit or 8x32-bit. |
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| 10:02.44 | LLcoolM | gebruiker_: consider adding it to rc.local |
| 10:02.51 | gebruiker_ | LLcoolM, how? |
| 10:03.01 | LLcoolM | vi /etc/rc.local and then paste |
| 10:03.06 | LLcoolM | the file is already there |
| 10:03.30 | gebruiker_ | ok then I just enter the name of the initscript? |
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| 10:03.47 | LLcoolM | another method: you just have update-rc.d create a symlink for launch in rc.[2345] |
| 10:04.07 | LLcoolM | gebruiker_: no you write the script inside rc.local (only for small scripts) |
| 10:04.19 | LLcoolM | for bigger ones handle them as i said |
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| 10:04.23 | gebruiker | i prefer the other method |
| 10:04.26 | gebruiker | hmm |
| 10:04.32 | LLcoolM | update-rc.d -h |
| 10:04.35 | gebruiker | so what get's launched at boot? |
| 10:04.42 | gebruiker | which runlevels? |
| 10:04.49 | LLcoolM | look at what i said |
| 10:04.53 | LLcoolM | 2345 |
| 10:05.10 | PingFloyd | gebruiker: that's based on what it's rc.n n being the runlevel |
| 10:05.23 | PingFloyd | *what's in |
| 10:05.37 | gebruiker | PingFloyd, let me ask you differently |
| 10:05.54 | gebruiker | what runlevels does linux enters when it reboots? |
| 10:05.56 | gebruiker | juist 0? |
| 10:05.59 | gebruiker | *just |
| 10:06.11 | LLcoolM | gebruiker_: 2345 |
| 10:06.21 | LLcoolM | i am not gonna say it again, you want 2345 |
| 10:06.21 | PingFloyd | gebruiker: I think it's 6 iirc |
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| 10:07.43 | gebruiker | LLcoolM, thnx |
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| 10:07.53 | gebruiker | however update-rc.d memtester defaults 2 3 4 5 doesn't work |
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| 10:10.37 | mcnaft | Hi, I thought devfs was removed in kernel 2.6.19? but I get kernel panic concerning devfs.. |
| 10:10.39 | ctp_ | hm, i try to chroot into a debootstrap env. executing "chroot /deb" results in "chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory". but there exist /bin/bash and /deb/bin/bash. anyone here has a hint whats going wrong? |
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| 10:16.33 | zOap | how to I clear bash cache? "clear" only clears the screen but the history is still there... |
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| 10:17.38 | tomekk | hi |
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| 10:18.07 | tomekk | Debian Sarge autodetect HT ?? |
| 10:18.22 | tomekk | I must compile Kernel ?? |
| 10:18.42 | GutterPunk | tomekk, you just need to install the smp version of the kernel |
| 10:18.51 | GutterPunk | oh no woops sorry |
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| 10:19.20 | GutterPunk | no, still, you need to install that one :) |
| 10:19.29 | tomekk | smp kernel versions is in repo ?? |
| 10:19.33 | GutterPunk | yep |
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| 10:20.04 | GutterPunk | e.g. kernel-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 10:20.11 | tomekk | ok |
| 10:20.37 | tomekk | I thougt that I must to compile a kernel .... |
| 10:21.42 | tomekk | and I have next guestions ... |
| 10:21.57 | tomekk | because I want to install KDE |
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| 10:22.16 | tomekk | Debian has Gnome as default enviropment |
| 10:22.59 | tomekk | may I install this KDE during installtion but after installtion ?? |
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| 10:26.51 | cydork | tomekk: if you are not installing it on a server go for etch, it also has dedicated install cd for kde. |
| 10:27.20 | cydork | tomekk: of i you want to install kde in sarge dont select anything in the begining and check /msg dpkg install kde |
| 10:28.08 | tomekk | ok |
| 10:28.12 | tomekk | thanks |
| 10:28.32 | tomekk | I want to change a distro |
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| 10:28.48 | tomekk | I used Ubuntu actulty |
| 10:28.57 | tomekk | acutally |
| 10:29.09 | tomekk | actually |
| 10:29.20 | cydork | tomekk: go for etch :) |
| 10:29.28 | sparr | i need a KDE app with a funky shaped window. a round clock would be ok, funkier is better. help? |
| 10:29.38 | tomekk | but Ubuntu used many RAM !!! |
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| 10:30.10 | tomekk | ok |
| 10:30.19 | tomekk | very thakns |
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| 10:30.24 | tomekk | thanks |
| 10:30.39 | tomekk | etch supports KDE ?? |
| 10:30.49 | Ronin | tomekk: yes and what do you mean by used many ram? |
| 10:30.53 | tomekk | but sarge supports Gnome ?? |
| 10:31.19 | tomekk | hmmm |
| 10:31.29 | Eclipser | tomekk, err what? |
| 10:31.48 | Ronin | tomekk: no i think the default is gnome but they had to pick one, you can install kde if you like |
| 10:31.59 | Eclipser | ... |
| 10:32.06 | Eclipser | debian has no preference over any of those |
| 10:32.08 | Eclipser | really.. |
| 10:32.20 | _FeelFree_ | eisen_ ? |
| 10:32.23 | tomekk | when I used a 2 - 3 application Ubuntu used 90 ...% RAM |
| 10:32.26 | cydork | tomekk: no sarge and etch both support kde and gnome, |
| 10:32.35 | Eclipser | yeah |
| 10:32.56 | Ronin | tomekk: but was the system slow? linux looks at unused ram as wasted |
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| 10:33.42 | Eclipser | linux caches a lot to "unused" ram :) |
| 10:33.51 | Ronin | heh |
| 10:34.13 | norc | cached ram? |
| 10:34.30 | Eclipser | no, *to* |
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| 10:34.45 | Eclipser | it caches filesystem stuff and such into ram |
| 10:34.46 | norc | oh |
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| 10:34.54 | norc | Eclipser: that dependes on the filesystem itself.. |
| 10:35.00 | tomekk | Memory ...sory not RAm |
| 10:35.29 | Ronin | *blink* |
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| 10:36.21 | cydork | o.0 |
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| 10:36.57 | E-bola | Hello |
| 10:37.10 | E-bola | Do anybody have experience with uninstalling the debian packed version of exim and using a tarball instaid? |
| 10:37.20 | E-bola | I would imagine there would be a lot of dependency problems... |
| 10:38.04 | Eclipser | hm |
| 10:38.41 | Eclipser | for a while I thought this conversation was weird but then I noticed this was #debian and not #vim... stupid irssi messed up my window order |
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| 10:39.19 | utab | when I highlight some lines of text and paste that text in the insert mode in vi, I get a strange ladder like format. why is this so? |
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| 10:41.15 | Jachin | i need help, i have installed debian, but i cant edit my screen resolution, and the webbrowser arent opening anymore |
| 10:42.16 | azeem | Jachin: which version of Debian, which graphics card? |
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| 10:46.58 | Knight_Lord | Is there any log that tells me the computers that request information from the NIS server? |
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| 10:54.01 | Jachin | i have debian stable version 3.1 |
| 10:54.12 | azeem | and which graphics card? |
| 10:54.23 | Jachin | vesa , i dont know the exact model |
| 10:54.38 | azeem | vesa only reliably works in 800x600 |
| 10:54.46 | azeem | I guess you have that resolution now? |
| 10:54.55 | Jachin | it worked with other resolutions in Fedora |
| 10:54.58 | Jachin | yes |
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| 10:55.17 | azeem | Jachin: what does "lspci | grep VGA" say? |
| 10:55.19 | Jachin | i made an http install, without selecting packages |
| 10:55.45 | Jachin | i think thats the problem, and now my webbrowser has crashed, i cant search on the net |
| 10:55.45 | Zarephath | Hi I am running etch....should I not be able to just add unstable to my sources.list and run apt-get update? |
| 10:56.07 | azeem | Zarephath: you should be able, but why would you want that? |
| 10:56.11 | azeem | unstable is not supported |
| 10:56.22 | Jachin | 0000:00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82810 DC-100 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 02) |
| 10:56.54 | Zarephath | I know...I wanted to try a couple of simple packages that are on debian news mailing list |
| 10:56.56 | azeem | Jachin: that looks like a i810? |
| 10:57.05 | azeem | Zarephath: and they are not in etch? |
| 10:57.09 | azeem | !drxx |
| 10:57.14 | azeem | eh. |
| 10:57.16 | azeem | !hi |
| 10:57.49 | Zarephath | azeem: Apparently not..as they are listed as being in unstable, and just for grins I tried to install them from the regular repos.. |
| 10:57.59 | Jachin | do i need to install xfree86 ? |
| 10:58.02 | sussudio | !test |
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| 10:58.11 | azeem | sussudio: down |
| 10:58.15 | sussudio | i see. |
| 10:58.26 | azeem | Jachin: if you have 800x600 graphics, you already have xfree86 |
| 10:58.52 | azeem | Jachin: try to run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", hit enter on all questions except for the driver selection, select "i810" instead of "vesa" there |
| 10:59.07 | clem | Hi there, I'm maintaining a repository but my packages are not signed. Could someone help me with GPG/PGP signing them? |
| 10:59.45 | Jachin | xserver-xfree86 or -dbg ? |
| 10:59.50 | azeem | Jachin: the former |
| 10:59.58 | clem | do I have to sign each package, or can I just "sign" the repository itself ? |
| 11:00.01 | azeem | clem: you mean your Release file isn't signed? |
| 11:00.13 | azeem | clem: the latter is the usual way |
| 11:00.16 | clem | azeem: I don't have any Release files.. it's a trivial repo. |
| 11:00.41 | azeem | it's the Release file you need to sign, try to find documentation on how to create a Release file and then sign it |
| 11:00.47 | azeem | I've never done it myself |
| 11:00.48 | clem | azeem: ok |
| 11:01.04 | clem | azeem: do I generate my own GPG key myself ? |
| 11:01.46 | azeem | yes |
| 11:02.00 | clem | azeem: ok I'll have a look at that. Thanks a lot. |
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| 11:02.37 | Jachin | azeem: it is still 640x480 , i cant change |
| 11:02.41 | clem | azeem: I'm glad I can do it through the repo.. I was afraid I would have to sign packages individually... |
| 11:03.16 | compDo | When I execute "ulimit -c 1024" as normal user, I get "-bash: ulimit: core file size: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted". As root, this is working. Where can I enable changing of the core size for all users? |
| 11:04.10 | azeem | Jachin: and maybe your monitor settings aren't good |
| 11:04.27 | azeem | Jachin: what happens if you press ctrl+alt+<numpad +> |
| 11:04.41 | Jachin | nothing |
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| 11:05.36 | Jachin | when i type mozilla in terminal it says segmentation fault |
| 11:05.49 | azeem | Jachin: alternatively, check /var/log/X*log |
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| 11:15.24 | Jachin | my webbrowsers arent working anymore after installation of Debian |
| 11:15.38 | Jachin | Mozilla isnt opening, and epiphemy is crashing each time i open it |
| 11:16.07 | blondie | your question doesn't make sense |
| 11:16.17 | blondie | how would they be working when debian wasn't installed? |
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| 11:16.17 | badgers | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of sussudio) |
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| 11:16.22 | sussudio | %test |
| 11:16.23 | badgers | Test Failed. |
| 11:16.23 | kryl | hi |
| 11:16.34 | blondie | 15 badgers in your trousers |
| 11:17.04 | Jachin | blondie, after installation mozilla worked 1 time, and after that it isnt opening anymore, i tried to reboot |
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| 11:20.32 | Jachin | i think it is a gtk2 problem, how can i change to KDE |
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| 11:21.05 | azeem | Jachin: KDE is a desktop environment, GTk2 is a toolkit |
| 11:21.17 | azeem | when you switch to KDE, mozilla will still use GTK+ |
| 11:21.35 | Jachin | Jachin: there are probs with gtk2 at the moment. i have random crashiness in thunderbird & firefox just now |
| 11:21.42 | Jachin | how can i resolve this problem then |
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| 11:22.20 | Shadur | Fitzgerald ran a hand through his silver hair. "Okay, Harry, we'll table this issue for the moment. I'd like for you to come by my office at a later date, however, because in spite of what you may think there are a number of options available to you which you should know about." |
| 11:22.33 | kryl | Hi, bind 9.2.4 under sarge distribution crash every two day this week ... I don't understand why , I think it can be a ram problem but I want to test the processor, My question is : how to monitor temperature on two processor with lm-sensor or other tools please ? |
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| 11:22.39 | Shadur | ... Okay, I starting to severely hate this keyboard. One moment. |
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| 11:24.36 | kryl | my Mother board is : A7M266-D |
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| 11:25.38 | sussudio | kryl: That motherboard doesn't have a CPU temperature sensor as far as i know. |
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| 11:26.20 | sussudio | %tell kryl about memtest86 |
| 11:26.36 | kryl | Yes but I can't restart the server at this time :-( |
| 11:26.39 | murd3r2 | is there anyone here that knows a little delphi? |
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| 11:26.50 | kryl | libsensors return temperature informations for ONE processor |
| 11:28.04 | sussudio | kryl: 9 out of 10 times the powersupply is the problem, by the way. |
| 11:28.44 | kryl | mmm |
| 11:28.45 | kryl | and ... |
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| 11:29.08 | kryl | I have a problem with the keyboard too !! I can't use the keyboard now on the MB ! |
| 11:29.17 | kryl | it's curious ... |
| 11:29.26 | tomekk | I want Kanotix installed on ma disk |
| 11:29.28 | kryl | the server use a battery system |
| 11:29.45 | tomekk | its compile under i586 |
| 11:30.04 | tomekk | but after installtion Kanotix used debian's repo |
| 11:30.11 | sussudio | %kanotik |
| 11:30.14 | tomekk | debian is i386 |
| 11:30.26 | sussudio | tomekk: this isn't #kanotix. go away. |
| 11:30.27 | sussudio | %kanotix |
| 11:30.28 | badgers | it has been said that kanotix is not Debian, and we can't help you. Go /join #kanotix, or such a big fan of debian, it has sources for woody, sarge AND sid in sources.list (sid default) See <Based On Debian>, or go to #kanotix |
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| 11:30.41 | tomekk | ok |
| 11:30.56 | tomekk | maybe somebody used Kanotix ?? |
| 11:31.02 | sussudio | go away. |
| 11:31.10 | tomekk | :) |
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| 11:46.41 | Eclipser | utab, did you solve your problem yet? |
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| 11:48.50 | bloodknight | hey\ |
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| 11:49.33 | bloodknight | If I want to switch from connecting to the internet via dhcp (a router) to direct (pppoe), what package should I reconfigure? |
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| 12:01.57 | utab | Eclipser: sorry for the late reply, I ewnt to luch |
| 12:02.08 | Eclipser | no problem |
| 12:02.16 | Eclipser | solved it yet then? |
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| 12:02.35 | utab | Eclipser: no still the paste problem |
| 12:02.54 | fluppet | Hi I'm trying to install Dillo as a local user (I don't have root access), can anyone help me? |
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| 12:03.25 | Eclipser | utab, :he paste (this is not in Vi and I think you *are* actually using vim :) |
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| 12:04.43 | utab | Eclipser: right, if I select some code or text from a web browser and paste that, then I get this problem I thought that I am not the 1st to confront with this and searched google but no use and then dropped here |
| 12:05.21 | christopherl | someone know how to change the color of the hostname in Gnome terminal? |
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| 12:05.34 | Eclipser | utab, :set paste (paste your stuff in insert mode) <ESC> :set nopaste |
| 12:05.53 | E-bola | is there anyway to tell debian to "apply the permissions of THISFILE on THATFILE" ? |
| 12:05.55 | utab | Eclipser: hmmm, thanks |
| 12:06.04 | E-bola | so it changes owner,group and perms to the same as another file has? |
| 12:06.16 | Eclipser | utab, there's also #vim :) |
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| 12:07.03 | utab | Eclipser: yep,thx |
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| 12:07.42 | nevyn | Eclipser: yeah |
| 12:07.51 | Eclipser | nevyn, missed |
| 12:08.08 | Diamond | Hi |
| 12:08.11 | nevyn | E-bola: chmod --reference=thisfile thatfile |
| 12:08.20 | E-bola | nevyn: cool |
| 12:08.20 | utab | :q |
| 12:08.21 | nevyn | E-bola: I think it exists for chown as well |
| 12:08.24 | Diamond | how can i change standard network card in linux |
| 12:08.25 | utab | exit |
| 12:08.36 | nevyn | E-bola: it may be a two pass thing... |
| 12:08.45 | nevyn | you might need to chmod and chow |
| 12:08.47 | E-bola | would be nice if u could do both user grp and perms in 1 |
| 12:08.48 | Diamond | i'v got two network cards in my computer |
| 12:08.49 | nevyn | chown even |
| 12:09.18 | Diamond | and i changed the cable how can i change default network card |
| 12:09.35 | Diamond | btw : my problem whas i can not update from apt-get databases |
| 12:09.37 | Diamond | ;( |
| 12:10.13 | Diamond | don't know why when i ping some adres it can reach it |
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| 12:10.31 | Diamond | but apt databases are unreachable |
| 12:10.32 | Diamond | ;/ |
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| 12:10.45 | Diamond | someone that can help me here? |
| 12:11.19 | analeptic | yes |
| 12:11.51 | Diamond | okay |
| 12:12.05 | Diamond | Hi analeptic |
| 12:12.19 | analeptic | Hay |
| 12:13.12 | Diamond | analeptic : i can't update my debian |
| 12:13.18 | Diamond | apt databases unreachable |
| 12:13.36 | Diamond | on sec i give you there error |
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| 12:14.58 | Diamond | hmm |
| 12:15.05 | Diamond | he can not reach the sites |
| 12:15.10 | Diamond | reache* |
| 12:15.20 | Diamond | ftp.debian.nl |
| 12:15.24 | Diamond | is not reachable |
| 12:15.48 | fireba11 | !tell diamond about enter |
| 12:16.03 | Diamond | i know fireba11 :) sorry for that |
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| 12:19.28 | fluppet | Okay, since noone replied to my previous message, I'll just tell you about my problem installing Dillo without root access: I downloaded the .tar.bz2 and extracted it. I ran configuration, it seemed to go okay. I then ran make, which took about a minute and although it was going too fast for me to read, it seemed to be giving quite a few errors, then I tried running install-dpi-local which executed without giving any messages, but dillo doesn't seem to |
| 12:19.28 | fluppet | 'dillo' executable anyway... any ideas? Thanks |
| 12:20.08 | analeptic | any error message? |
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| 12:22.41 | fluppet | error messages when running make, but nothing when I ran install-dpi-local |
| 12:22.57 | fluppet | just went back to command prompt again |
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| 12:23.23 | Moarc | Good morning! :) |
| 12:24.25 | fluppet | is there a more appropriate channel for my question? There doesn't seem to be a dillo channel... |
| 12:27.37 | row | sasl2 in etch supports courier authdaemon for authentication does it not? |
| 12:27.58 | tarzeau | where and how is defined as which priority number some init.d script from debian/ is installed? |
| 12:28.16 | liable | hrm, openoffice has suddenly started playing sounds from .pps files for me |
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| 12:58.13 | mosty | is it possible to get make-kpkg on sarge to build an initramfs initrd image? |
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| 12:59.54 | larsl | How do I get Iceweasel to antialias all fonts? |
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| 13:01.09 | fluppet | Is it in any way possible to install a package (locally) without root access? |
| 13:01.45 | janttsu | how could i check ide disk for corruptions? my 80gb drive seems to have some problem. gparted tell's that total size is only 30 gb.... |
| 13:02.13 | fireba11 | janttsu: run fdisk after mounting read-only or at next boot |
| 13:02.18 | fireba11 | er . .fsck |
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| 13:02.43 | petemc | some disks have jumpers to set them to 32gig |
| 13:03.44 | row | I am getting issues of authdaemon refusing my connection from sasl, how can I find out why its being refused? |
| 13:03.58 | row | postfix is chroot'ed and I hardlinked the socket file into the chroot. |
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| 13:06.19 | frafra | I've downloaded skype for linux. It looks dirty and bad, so I've used qt3-config for set a better theme. Skype still use the default, old, dirty qt theme. How to fix it? I'm on sid for amd64 |
| 13:06.44 | janttsu | petemc: good thought.. jumpers were wrong :D |
| 13:06.49 | Tenkawa | frafra: what does that have to do with debian? |
| 13:07.50 | frafra | Tenkawa, I want to use skype with another qt theme under gnome... The default theme is dirty... I've set another theme qith qt3-config, but nothing happens in skype |
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| 13:08.17 | Braindead | frafra: so it's a Skype problem. |
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| 13:09.37 | frafra | Braindead, if this is a skype problem, skype will looks ugly in every linux desktop, with the motif default theme... |
| 13:10.03 | zamaliphe | what is the last kernel in sid ? |
| 13:10.18 | Braindead | zamaliphe: 2.6.18-9 |
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| 13:10.36 | cahoot | hopefully not the last though |
| 13:10.43 | Sero | what's the best torrent client for debian? |
| 13:10.50 | Braindead | Sero: rtorrent |
| 13:11.26 | Sero | and I should trust braindeaD? |
| 13:11.32 | zamaliphe | when the kernel 2.6.20 relase ? |
| 13:11.37 | larsl | ktorrent is OK, I haven't really tried that many though. |
| 13:11.58 | lncast | Sero: rtorrent is also ok |
| 13:12.14 | Braindead | zamaliphe: what's the point? upstream vanilla kernel still is in RC state |
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| 13:12.49 | frafra | dpkg (the bot in this channel) seems dead :D |
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| 13:13.06 | larsl | zamaliphe: It's pretty easy to build your own 2.6.20 packages if you want to install it. |
| 13:13.46 | zamaliphe | larsl: i do |
| 13:13.53 | larsl | zamaliphe: Download code from kernel.org, copy .config from the latest linux-headers package, make oldconfig, make-dpkg |
| 13:13.55 | larsl | Oh. |
| 13:14.36 | cahoot | zamaliphe: waiting for something special? |
| 13:15.36 | zamaliphe | cahoot: no i just want to test whats new in 2.6.20 |
| 13:16.06 | Braindead | read the changelog. |
| 13:16.08 | cahoot | zamaliphe: as already pointed out there is no 2.6.20 yet anyways |
| 13:16.46 | Trewas | zamaliphe: 2.6.20-rc6 is supposed to be the last -rc before the final release, so it should be quite safe to test and the final should be ready in few weeks |
| 13:16.46 | zamaliphe | cahoot: ok |
| 13:17.40 | zamaliphe | Trewas: will that is good news |
| 13:17.45 | larsl | zamaliphe: Sorry - when you said "i do", did you mean that you already build your own kernel packages or that you do want to install 2.6.20? |
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| 13:19.09 | zamaliphe | larsl: meant want to install 2.6.20 |
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| 13:19.53 | zamaliphe | larsl: i haven't compill any kernel before |
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| 13:20.36 | drako | Anyone can recommend me a good SIP client? |
| 13:21.02 | larsl | zamaliphe: Get the 2.6.19 package and the latest RC patch to 2.6.20 from kernel.org, apply the patch, install the latest version of the Debian package linux-headers, copy /usr/src/linux/.config to the new kernel source, run 'make oldconfig' and answer the questions, then run 'make-kpgk --root fakeroot --initrd binary' in the source directory and it should create Debian kernel packages for you. |
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| 13:21.09 | Braindead | zamaliphe: can't you resist the compelling urge of rolling your own kernel? is it some sort of initiatic experience ? |
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| 13:21.58 | drako | larsl, does that command make modules aswell? what the binary is for? |
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| 13:22.15 | cahoot | Braindead: you never compiled a kernel? |
| 13:22.54 | Braindead | cahoot: sure. but not because "I want" or "i just want to test whats new in FOOVERSION" |
| 13:23.14 | larsl | drako: Yes, all modules that are configured to be built will be part of the linux-image package. |
| 13:23.20 | cahoot | Braindead: isn't it really a quite harmless itch to scratch? |
| 13:23.34 | larsl | drako: That command actually build source, header and manual packages as well. |
| 13:23.41 | Braindead | and by the way pure vanilla kernels aren't exactly destined to final user,he'd better be sticking to Debian sources |
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| 13:23.56 | zamaliphe | larsl: thanks alot i'm gona try it now |
| 13:24.11 | drako | larsl, i do make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image modules |
| 13:24.15 | larsl | zamaliphe: You'll probably need to install some packages first. |
| 13:24.49 | Braindead | and add the fact that 2.6 developement really is "on the edge",so why bothering trying RC releases of an anyway "unpolished" kernel ? |
| 13:24.49 | drako | when I did without 'modules' in the end i was getting panic |
| 13:24.58 | larsl | drako: Maybe 'binary' adds it automatically. |
| 13:24.59 | Braindead | see the recent mmap/MMSYNC bug,for example |
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| 13:25.23 | zamaliphe | Braindead: will compill the kernel make you feel you have your one system for real :D |
| 13:25.24 | larsl | Braindead: I'm doing it to get the latest RT preemption patch. |
| 13:25.32 | drako | larsl, good hint |
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| 13:26.11 | Braindead | larsl: adding a patch you need is a thing. compiling a RC vanilla kernel "to become a real man" seems a bit out of time |
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| 13:27.25 | berkes | can anyone point me to a standard debian solution to sync a second remotely hosted bind9 nameserver? |
| 13:27.54 | berkes | that is, I want 'the other server' to reflect any changes I make to the first server. |
| 13:28.10 | row | Is there anyway to run postfix's smtpd chrooted while using sasl+courier authdaemon? |
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| 13:28.36 | row | I tried hardlinking the socket for authdaemon but I get connection refused when I do. |
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| 13:30.03 | Shadur | row: postfix already chroots everything it can safely do so on and runs without privileges on everything that doesn't need them. |
| 13:30.03 | nm_ | re * |
| 13:30.20 | nm_ | i got streamer source package from responstive |
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| 13:30.37 | nm_ | how do i build this source for an arm arch ? |
| 13:30.48 | Sero | is rtorrent text-based? I don't have any desktop systems installed |
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| 13:31.19 | row | Shadur: yeah but I can only get it to work when not chrooted, when smtpd is chrooted I need to symlink the socket file and get connection refused when doing so. |
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| 13:31.39 | dustyr | Hey guys I am trying to get my USB adsl modem working in debian, however i need to install hotplug when i do it conflicts with usbdev (now im going to need that) i tried -f install and it still complains, any ideas? |
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| 13:32.29 | Kitu | france 2, envoyé spécial, sarkozy (auto promo france 2 pour l'émission, vers environs 13h30): "/say c'est un match qui se joue en V sets" :D, ( [11h53m17s] * Vous-vous appelez maintenant Kituu|sarkozy_V ). |
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| 13:32.55 | Braindead | Sero: at least look for the package description,it isn't that hard |
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| 13:34.46 | Sero | Bd: i've done that, but haven't tested the client yet. But; is it possible to limit the number of ports opened by the client + is it possible to set the max upload rate? I can only find switches for file limits |
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| 13:34.55 | [1]Jeremy | http://comparateurdeprix.zlio.com/ |
| 13:35.21 | [1]Jeremy | ? |
| 13:35.38 | Braindead | Sero: yes,it's a very flexible and configurable client |
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| 13:39.37 | Sero | how on earth do I quit the clien? :)) |
| 13:39.37 | Sero | t |
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| 13:40.05 | Braindead | Sero: by reading the fine manual |
| 13:40.14 | Sero | my shell is locked! |
| 13:40.51 | Braindead | it's the FIRST key they explain how to use. |
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| 13:43.06 | Jachin | when i type this : [root@hostname root]# chown root.admins /home/netlogon , it gives error , chown: `root.admins': unknown group |
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| 13:43.37 | Jachin | i made a group admins, and a dir mkdir -m 0775 /home/netlogon |
| 13:44.14 | Thms | anyone knows a thing like gkrell ? |
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| 13:44.26 | justin | Jachin: try root:admins ? is . supposed to work? |
| 13:44.43 | justin | Jachin: ah yeah, apparently . works too... check /etc/group |
| 13:44.54 | Jachin | same error |
| 13:45.50 | Jachin | group -g 200 admins , isnt working on debian is this normal |
| 13:46.49 | Jachin | ok i added admins with kde users and groups, but i didnt press ok, now it works |
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| 13:48.26 | cahoot | Jachin: skip the s - admin |
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| 13:52.56 | Thms | anyones knows a good system monitor which is showed on the wallpaper ? |
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| 13:54.07 | cydork | Thms: conky or superkaramba for kde or gdesklets for gnome |
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| 13:54.44 | erchache | malaputa |
| 13:54.56 | erchache | ooops |
| 13:54.57 | erchache | sorry |
| 13:55.16 | erchache | this error can be solved upgrading kernel? |
| 13:55.18 | erchache | attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 13:55.18 | erchache | sda1: rw=1, want=11133931640, limit=142110927 |
| 13:55.44 | Thms | thanks a lot cydork |
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| 13:56.52 | LeFallen | Thms: There's also adesklets which IMHO are better than gdesklets |
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| 13:59.10 | christopherl | how do I copy the contents from a folder to another folder? |
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| 13:59.56 | Atomy | hi how to change that syslog is sending me every hour an mail? |
| 14:00.49 | Polleke | christopherl, cp -r /path/to/dir/* /other/dir/. |
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| 14:01.07 | christopherl | thanks |
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| 14:03.42 | thm09830 | does anybody as experience with the --root option of the dpkg tool ? |
| 14:04.11 | sussudio | !test |
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| 14:06.18 | thm09830 | dpkg -i --root=/loctmp/test lacheck_1.26-7_i386.deb gives me an errormsg |
| 14:06.57 | thm09830 | (dpkg: kann auf den Statusbereich von dpkg nicht zugreifen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden) |
| 14:07.25 | Thms | cydork: do you know any other please ? |
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| 14:08.20 | thm09830 | translation: dpkg: cant access the status of dpkg: cannot find file or directory |
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| 14:09.47 | wwallace | sussudio you still alive? |
| 14:10.12 | erchache | attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 14:10.12 | erchache | sda1: rw=1, want=11133931640, limit=142110927 |
| 14:10.12 | erchache | This can be solved upgrading kernel? |
| 14:10.19 | azeem | wwallace: people go away from time to time, better to address the whole channel, not individuals |
| 14:10.23 | erchache | or is a hardware error disk? |
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| 14:11.13 | cydork | Thms: as LeFallen mentioned there is adesklets too! i dont know any other.. |
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| 14:11.23 | Thms | okay |
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| 14:15.49 | larsl | Thms: There is gkrellm that displays monitors in its own window and kima which displays it in the KDE panel. Not on the desktop though. |
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| 14:16.18 | sulo | hi |
| 14:16.28 | Thms | larsl: I know grkellm and I use gnome |
| 14:16.29 | Hoxzer | Hi |
| 14:16.30 | Hoxzer | HEissan |
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| 14:20.05 | junix|work | what si the debian pastebin? |
| 14:20.15 | Eulex | !pastebin |
| 14:20.21 | Eulex | !paste |
| 14:20.29 | Eulex | !test |
| 14:20.31 | Eclipser | :p |
| 14:20.33 | cydork | junix|work: use pastebin.ca |
| 14:20.34 | Eulex | dpkg apperas to be dead |
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| 14:20.37 | junix|work | lol |
| 14:20.59 | junix|work | k |
| 14:21.31 | streuner | apt, pastebin |
| 14:21.33 | apt | it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 14:21.55 | junix|work | could someone look at this http://pastebin.ca/334309 for me? |
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| 14:22.37 | streuner | uh, that looks ugly! |
| 14:22.37 | junix|work | ? |
| 14:22.44 | Jachin | how can i see in which dir smb is ? |
| 14:23.02 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:23.06 | petemc | dpkg -L package |
| 14:23.25 | streuner | junix|work: show us your sources.list |
| 14:23.29 | junix|work | k |
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| 14:24.12 | junix|work | streuner: http://pastebin.ca/334311 |
| 14:25.04 | streuner | apt, tell junix|work about sid faq |
| 14:25.23 | junix|work | ok... |
| 14:25.31 | junix|work | i know about sid |
| 14:25.44 | junix|work | i want to know how to force the install so i can continue... |
| 14:25.59 | streuner | read the FAQ first, before asking questions here. |
| 14:26.25 | streuner | read also 'man sources.list' and USE ONLY official mirrors. |
| 14:27.16 | streuner | 1) line 14 - comment that line. |
| 14:27.20 | junix|work | am i not? |
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| 14:27.46 | junix|work | oh i'm not worried about that source, it was for a specific package |
| 14:27.55 | streuner | 2) line 6 + 10, comment that too, and use an official mirror |
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| 14:28.51 | cydork | junix|work: what does apt-cache policy apache2-common say? |
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| 14:29.44 | junix|work | cydork: http://pastebin.ca/334316 |
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| 14:32.01 | nachox | i'm fighting a bit with debian and ldap authentication, i've configured libnss-ldap, set up nsswitch.conf and modified the pam files and still no go, is there any way to check things are ok in the ldap database? |
| 14:32.05 | cydork | junix|work: no candidate for that.. did you just upgrade from stable to sid? |
| 14:32.12 | junix|work | no |
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| 14:34.29 | junix|work | cydork: ?? |
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| 14:34.49 | cydork | junix|work: well there is no apache2-common in unstable there is apache2.2-common though. |
| 14:35.11 | streuner | junix|work: Did you read Sid FAQ yet? |
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| 14:35.18 | Jachin | domain admin group = @admins root; line in smb.conf gives error, Unknown parameter encountered: "domain admin group" |
| 14:35.53 | junix|work | streuner: yes i did, all i want to do is force apache to load or remove it completely and continue on |
| 14:36.23 | streuner | junix|work: so scroll up and follow those steps we told you before. |
| 14:36.47 | streuner | junix|work: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 14:36.51 | streuner | btw |
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| 14:37.18 | junix|work | why does the mirror make a difference, the official debian mirrors take forever to download update from. which is why i moved to anl |
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| 14:37.40 | junix|work | streuner: MEGATRON:~# dpkg -l libc6| tail -1 |
| 14:37.40 | junix|work | ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-10 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 14:37.52 | mosty | i'm looking for a small, fast filtering web proxy (i think squid would be overkill). i want to deny access to all sites except my list of about 10 websites |
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| 14:38.01 | mosty | can anyone suggest anything like that? |
| 14:38.02 | streuner | only official gurantee the right packages and the rigth structure, you are on the safe site then. |
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| 14:38.08 | streuner | mirrors* |
| 14:38.26 | junix|work | anl is not an official mirror? |
| 14:38.50 | Stardust | hi, does anybody know some application to solve equations? |
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| 14:39.17 | larsl | Stardust: YACAS |
| 14:39.35 | junix|work | streuner: did the output help at all? |
| 14:39.38 | larsl | Stardust: I haven't used it much though, but the name "Yet Another Computer Algebra System" seems promising. |
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| 14:40.33 | cydork | Stardust: there is maxima too.. |
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| 14:41.23 | Stardust | larsl: thanx, i will try them |
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| 14:43.22 | giupy | did you noticed that procmeter3 crahes with 2 cpus info? is that a bug or it's my problem ? |
| 14:43.48 | abrotman | !bts |
| 14:44.00 | abrotman | giupy: look at bugs.debian.org .. see if there's a bug arleady filed |
| 14:44.01 | Apparent | its dpkg down ? |
| 14:44.09 | giupy | abrotman: ok |
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| 14:44.13 | streuner | apt, no mirrors is <reply> Official Debian archive mirrors get an address of the form ftp.<country>.debian.org. These are the best advertised and most used sites; the face of Debian for most people. Official Debian archive mirrors get an address of the form ftp.<country>.debian.org. These are the best advertised and most used sites; the face of Debian for most people. A list is avaiable at http://www.debian.org/mirror/official |
| 14:44.14 | apt | streuner: okay |
| 14:44.21 | streuner | junix|work: no. |
| 14:44.22 | Apparent | !key |
| 14:44.27 | abrotman | bot is broken |
| 14:44.30 | junix|work | streuner: :-( |
| 14:44.36 | streuner | abrotman: yeah |
| 14:44.37 | Apparent | wtf ? dpkg does not respond ;) |
| 14:44.44 | streuner | use apt instead |
| 14:44.46 | abrotman | streuner: i already noticed |
| 14:44.53 | abrotman | badgers: apt key |
| 14:44.54 | badgers | abrotman: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 14:44.56 | Apparent | abrotman need to get the apt-get install sourcekey or something .. what was that ? |
| 14:44.59 | abrotman | badgers: key |
| 14:45.00 | badgers | For the new apt key, download it with "gpg --recv-keys 6070d3a1", then verify in whatever way you normally do that it is signed by the Debian ftpmasters. you can then use "apt-key" to install it. |
| 14:45.08 | abrotman | Apparent: apt-get install debian-archive-keyring |
| 14:45.13 | abrotman | badgers: yay! |
| 14:45.14 | badgers | yay! |
| 14:45.18 | streuner | or aptitude, stew: where is your bot? |
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| 14:45.29 | Apparent | abrotman thanks |
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| 14:48.21 | streuner | junix|work: also, anl.gov shouldn't be an offical mirror as well, according to the defination of A list is avaiable at http://www.debian.org/mirror/official |
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| 14:49.16 | streuner | s/defination/definition/ |
| 14:49.43 | whaq | deviance |
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| 14:50.11 | pablo_ | hi, how do i highlight synthax in vim? what is the debian.vim? |
| 14:51.34 | junix|work | streuner: ftp.us.debian.org would always take soooo long to download from |
| 14:52.31 | Thms | how can I configure conky for my SMP cpu ? |
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| 14:53.13 | streuner | junix|work: apt-get install apt-spy |
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| 14:54.00 | junix|work | if i could i would.... |
| 14:54.17 | streuner | ok, fix your sources.list first |
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| 14:59.25 | junix|work | streuner: fixing |
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| 15:00.14 | Knight_Lord | ypcat -k auto.master works and i have nis in nsswitch.conf for automount but automount doesn't seem to work |
| 15:00.17 | Knight_Lord | What could be the problem? |
| 15:00.23 | junix|work | streuner: ftp.us.debian.org is taking forever on a apt-get update |
| 15:00.27 | junix|work | this is what i'm talking about |
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| 15:01.12 | andrunko | hi all, i have a package that used to contain a lot of plugins, and now i splitted the package in separate plugins packages + the central package, but when i try to install the new plugins packages i got " trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/canola-1.0/libcontaineraudio.so', which is also in package libcanola-plugins-base1.0-0" |
| 15:01.16 | valdyn | pablo_: ':syntax on' or 'syntax on' in your .vimrc |
| 15:01.26 | andrunko | does anyone know how can i fix that? |
| 15:01.45 | andrunko | without using --force-overwrite |
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| 15:02.12 | azeem | andrunko: you need versioned conflicts/depends |
| 15:02.42 | andrunko | all plugins conflicts with old libcanola-plugins-base1.0-0 version |
| 15:02.56 | andrunko | azeem: and all plugins depends on the new one |
| 15:03.33 | azeem | andrunko: then you might need Replaces: as well |
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| 15:04.07 | junix|work | streuner: take a look at this http://pastebin.ca/334344 |
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| 15:04.46 | Thms | I have some segfault with apt-spy, why ? |
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| 15:05.06 | chris_goe | why not? (SCNR) |
| 15:05.17 | cr3 | for some reason, I changed my window manager from gnome to ratpoison and now my audio is not working. what might be wrong? |
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| 15:05.23 | venganza | hi |
| 15:05.44 | Knight_Lord | cr3 maybe you were relying on esd |
| 15:05.47 | andrunko | azeem: could you please take a look at http://pastebin.ca/334345? it's my debian/control file |
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| 15:05.51 | venganza | i have tried make raid 1 software in a debian running system but it cant boot :/ |
| 15:05.53 | venganza | http://rafb.net/p/JgvCPW45.html |
| 15:05.56 | Knight_Lord | cr3 try running "esd &" and see if your sound starts to work |
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| 15:05.57 | venganza | those was my steps |
| 15:05.59 | andrunko | it already uses Replaces |
| 15:06.06 | venganza | i have used Rainer Jochem howto |
| 15:06.09 | cr3 | Knight_Lord: interesting idea! one sec... |
| 15:06.20 | Apparent | abrotman does courier package have authmodule (authvchkpw) support build in in etch rc1 ? |
| 15:06.23 | venganza | anyone could check that please? |
| 15:06.28 | venganza | i suspect something is wrong :P |
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| 15:06.35 | azeem | andrunko: sorry, I'm busy right now |
| 15:06.47 | andrunko | azeem: np |
| 15:06.49 | azeem | andrunko: you can ask in #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org I think |
| 15:06.51 | abrotman | ~find authvchkpw etch |
| 15:07.00 | andrunko | azeem: hmm great, tnx |
| 15:07.08 | cr3 | Knight_Lord: nope, still doesn't work :( |
| 15:07.10 | Apparent | abrotman ? |
| 15:07.38 | abrotman | badgers: find autvchkpw etch |
| 15:07.39 | ralph_spencer | hello, i have a problem with a cross-compilation http://paste.debian.net/21117 , somebody can me help? |
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| 15:08.18 | hark | Thms: apt-spy does segfault for many people, you can try netselect-apt instead. |
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| 15:08.53 | badgers | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'autvchkpw' returned no results. |
| 15:09.00 | Thms | hark: netselect-apt is unknow command |
| 15:09.02 | abrotman | badgers: find authvchkpw etch |
| 15:09.03 | streuner | junix|work: use a different mirror like ftp.de.debian.org tempo instead. |
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| 15:09.10 | badgers | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'authvchkpw' returned no results. |
| 15:09.11 | junix|work | ok |
| 15:09.13 | Knight_Lord | cr3 check alsamixer, maybe volume is low |
| 15:09.14 | Apparent | abrotman so not is it ? |
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| 15:09.24 | abrotman | Apparent: guess not .. try packages.debian.org for more info |
| 15:09.34 | Apparent | abrotman thanks |
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| 15:09.46 | cr3 | Knight_Lord: I tried and changing alsamixer settings didn't change anything and, this is a laptop, so I also tried the audio up and down buttons |
| 15:09.52 | x_link | hrmmm. I can't install apt-get install flashplayer-plugin-nonfree or what it's called |
| 15:10.00 | hark | Thms: well, you do have to install it first ;) |
| 15:10.07 | x_link | I need the latest version of flash, could somebody help me out with this one? |
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| 15:10.13 | Thms | hark: it is not in apt too |
| 15:10.22 | atmos | if run dpkg --get-selections on one box and i want another box to have the same pkgs |
| 15:10.28 | hark | Thms: etch? |
| 15:10.28 | atmos | i can use --set-selections i see |
| 15:10.34 | Thms | hark: yeah |
| 15:10.38 | atmos | but how do i tell it to install those files from the set-selections ? |
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| 15:11.20 | Thms | W: Impossible de localiser la liste des paquets sources http://ftp.fr.debian.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type) |
| 15:11.20 | Thms | W: Impossible de localiser la liste des paquets sources http://ftp.fr.debian.org etch/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type) |
| 15:11.20 | Thms | W: Impossible de localiser la liste des paquets sources http://ftp.fr.debian.org etch/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type) |
| 15:11.23 | Thms | W: Impossible de localiser la liste des paquets sources http://ftp.fr.debian.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type) |
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| 15:11.59 | Darth_DrAk0 | I need a good Soft Phone for VoIP |
| 15:12.15 | Thms | hark: my sources.list was fucked up by apt-spy, I try now netselect thanks a lot |
| 15:12.44 | x_link | Shouldn't apt-get instlal flashplugin-nonfree install the latest flash player? |
| 15:13.02 | Apparent | abrotman please get dpkg to work |
| 15:13.19 | abrotman | Apparent: the bot ? |
| 15:13.23 | Apparent | yeah |
| 15:13.23 | abrotman | it's not my bot |
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| 15:13.44 | abrotman | i'm sure dondelelcaro has been notified |
| 15:14.14 | Apparent | ok |
| 15:14.14 | hark | x_link: if you have the right sources |
| 15:14.15 | x_link | hark: the right repo you mean? |
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| 15:16.12 | hark | ~tell x_link about contrib |
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| 15:17.22 | x_link | hark: http://www.pastebin.ca/334355 |
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| 15:17.45 | x_link | hark: Ahh... so I should take away "contrib non-free" from the first two lines that I have? |
| 15:18.11 | honschu | How to simulate a mouse-press in X? |
| 15:18.28 | hark | ~find flashplugin-nonfree etch |
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| 15:19.08 | x_link | hark: Is that something I need to do? |
| 15:19.56 | hark | x_link: huh.. that's the package you need for Flashplayer |
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| 15:20.20 | x_link | ahh ok |
| 15:20.28 | x_link | apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree etch |
| 15:20.38 | x_link | hark: Thanks alot! I really appreciate it man. |
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| 15:28.46 | baroni | Hi all. Does anybody knows how to link the middle-button-mouse-paste-resource to some shortcut? |
| 15:29.28 | x_link | flashplugin-nonfree etch didn't work. |
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| 15:30.11 | hark | etch is not a package! |
| 15:30.25 | whadar | how can i make unattended installs? those blue screens are driving me crazy.... |
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| 15:30.55 | cydork | whadar: preseed or fai |
| 15:31.15 | x_link | hark: I did apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree as well. Doesn't install it. |
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| 15:31.52 | hark | x_link: paste your sources.list |
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| 15:32.07 | x_link | Ahh wait |
| 15:32.23 | x_link | apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree worked this time. |
| 15:32.28 | x_link | This was the fith time I tried it. |
| 15:32.36 | Thomaschaaf | I want to fetch mail with php5 but the mail server is on a nother Server what do I do? |
| 15:32.37 | hark | amazing.. |
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| 15:32.58 | x_link | hark: Sorry for my stupid questions, I'm new with this. |
| 15:33.07 | x_link | I really appreciate that you helped me, thanks alot man! |
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| 15:33.30 | hark | yw |
| 15:33.40 | x_link | =) |
| 15:34.22 | junix|work | streuner: ok cahgned my sources |
| 15:34.32 | x_link | So from now on when I do apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade. Will that upgrade my flash version as well when new versions are out? |
| 15:34.34 | Thomaschaaf | please help.. |
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| 15:35.37 | whadar | fai clones existing machines via pxe? |
| 15:36.28 | abrotman | Thomaschaaf: ask ##php ? |
| 15:36.32 | hark | x_link: it should |
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| 15:36.48 | x_link | hark: Alright =) |
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| 15:39.03 | efaistos | hi |
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| 15:39.38 | efaistos | since i upgraded to iceweasel flash didnt work anymore ... |
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| 15:40.49 | abrotman | tried reinstalling flash ? |
| 15:41.39 | efaistos | i installed the .gz and some pkg but maybe not the right one ... |
| 15:42.16 | streuner | junix|work: what does 'apt-get -f install' say now? |
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| 15:42.38 | junix|work | 1 zsec |
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| 15:46.52 | edc | which version of debian is STABLE ? |
| 15:46.53 | edc | 3.1 ? |
| 15:46.55 | edc | or 4.0 ? |
| 15:47.00 | Eulex | 3.1 |
| 15:47.03 | edc | ok, thnx |
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| 15:47.47 | abrotman | efaistos: probably should go in /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/ or similar |
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| 15:49.31 | jumpship | I cant express enough the wonderful job by the Debian GIS developers/users who all made the GIS software work so well on debian with the apt repo. A sincerest thanks from a grateful GIS user! keep up the great work! =D |
| 15:49.32 | Ramattack | hi everybody |
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| 15:50.25 | Ramattack | why is happenning that when I go to 2 terminal for example (ctrl+alt+f2) the / doesn't work? and on graphical environment or by ssh is working??? |
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| 15:52.19 | tam | most likely a stupid question but is there a way to decode those image login screens with a text browser? |
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| 15:53.27 | Ramattack | tam could you know the answer please? |
| 15:53.31 | efaistos | abrotman: its okay |
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| 15:53.56 | tam | Ramattack: sorry, don't know about that. |
| 15:54.11 | Ramattack | ok then... thanks |
| 15:54.19 | Azar | Ramattack: did not understand your question |
| 15:54.41 | Ramattack | hi Azar |
| 15:54.48 | abrotman | efaistos: try about:plugins .. make sure flash is there |
| 15:55.01 | Azar | you try to go remote? |
| 15:55.30 | Ramattack | well I use european keyboard I'm spanish and when I go to second or third or non graphical environment the / doesn't work... but it works on ssh or in graphical environment |
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| 15:55.38 | Ramattack | why is that? |
| 15:55.43 | Ramattack | how could I resolve it? |
| 15:55.49 | Azar | on the same PC or from another PC? |
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| 15:56.14 | thug | hmm my apache doesnt start Forcing reload of web server (apache2)...httpd (no pid file) not running |
| 15:56.24 | Ramattack | nope graphical from same pc and ctrl+alt+f2 fron same pc |
| 15:56.28 | Ramattack | but ssh from another one |
| 15:56.28 | Azar | I would guess you go for a cli interface as user.. right? |
| 15:56.33 | thug | even /etc/init.d/apache2 start wont start it |
| 15:56.40 | Azar | .. not as root |
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| 15:56.52 | Ramattack | Azar yep truly as root too... |
| 15:57.01 | Ramattack | normally I use those screens for stating some services |
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| 15:57.21 | Ramattack | and for that purpose I use root and later cd /etc/init.d and ./..... start |
| 15:57.31 | Azar | Ramattack: did you tried another F keys? |
| 15:57.45 | Ramattack | F keys? |
| 15:57.58 | Ramattack | sorry don't understand you |
| 15:58.09 | Ramattack | if I use behing 8 key it sets / |
| 15:58.16 | Azar | as I vaguely remember F1 through F5 are for one and F6 through F12 for the other interface |
| 15:58.36 | thug | httpd (no pid file) not running |
| 15:58.40 | thug | can anyone please help |
| 15:58.45 | thug | why no pid ? |
| 15:59.01 | Ramattack | It doesn't happen in another debian servers I have |
| 15:59.13 | Ramattack | only in this one... |
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| 15:59.30 | Ramattack | and today in the morning I've tried to restore an image of it for testing that |
| 15:59.35 | Ramattack | and the same happens in another pc |
| 15:59.36 | Azar | Ramattack: you say you do not get root on a cli terminal? |
| 15:59.56 | Ramattack | I login as root on ctrl+añt+f2 |
| 16:00.14 | Azar | and you get no access to / ? |
| 16:00.22 | Diamond | Hi |
| 16:00.23 | Diamond | :) |
| 16:00.23 | Ramattack | that's it |
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| 16:00.32 | Diamond | does anyone know a easy way to configure ftp server |
| 16:00.33 | Ramattack | I have to use behing 8 key |
| 16:00.50 | Diamond | for non anonymous |
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| 16:00.58 | Diamond | for debian? |
| 16:01.02 | Ramattack | is there any place in wich to modify keyboard language? |
| 16:01.14 | Ramattack | for those consoles? could be that? |
| 16:01.35 | Azar | not sure might be locales.. |
| 16:01.50 | Ramattack | I've done it.... |
| 16:02.06 | Ramattack | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 16:02.29 | Ramattack | well the server is working properly so it doesn't worry lots to me... |
| 16:02.48 | Ramattack | but its curious |
| 16:03.00 | Ramattack | and its debian sarge stable |
| 16:03.04 | Ramattack | packages |
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| 16:04.11 | Azar | hmmmm sorry I never had an issue with a keyboard, it seems your keyboard works, the access to / does not |
| 16:04.41 | Azar | Ramattack: try using su while in user on a xterm |
| 16:07.40 | GNP | good morning folks... Im back ;) |
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| 16:08.12 | alterego | Is etch deemed stable enough for production server usage? |
| 16:08.36 | karsten | alterego: That's your decision to make. |
| 16:08.40 | Ramattack | ok thanks a lot then |
| 16:08.43 | Ramattack | bye!!! |
| 16:09.01 | junix|work | streuner: http://pastebin.ca/334409 |
| 16:09.02 | karsten | alterego: In practice: it's frozen, shouldn't change much before release, and is being used by a lot of folks now. |
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| 16:09.15 | smimp | Diamond: i think they swear by vsftpd here. havent set it up before, but it looks like its simple enough to get what you need... just change 3 settings in the config file |
| 16:09.17 | alterego | karsten, yeah I use it at home. |
| 16:09.17 | Azar | unbelievably delicious! We get a second set of news on Debian !!! |
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| 16:09.34 | nixbox | hi all |
| 16:09.41 | karsten | alterego: The release updates page should list major bugs / issues pending release. In past releases, the installer was a major roadbump, not sure now. |
| 16:09.52 | karsten | Azar: ? |
| 16:09.53 | nixbox | i have an old machine without a monitor and i want to install debian on it, how should i go about that? |
| 16:09.57 | alterego | karsten, I think I'll stick with compiling other packages from source until it gets released. |
| 16:10.02 | karsten | nixbox: Read the installation manual |
| 16:10.04 | karsten | !di |
| 16:10.17 | karsten | Where's dpkg? |
| 16:10.47 | karsten | nixbox: Serial install is possible. Or rig a monitor on it for the install. |
| 16:10.50 | nixbox | karsten, i just want to know if i can somehow move the display to my laptop? |
| 16:10.58 | nixbox | karsten, the rest i know |
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| 16:11.21 | nixbox | karsten, i can access the machine over the network... |
| 16:11.21 | karsten | nixbox: Serial install. Or remote chroot install if it's already running a 'nix. Eg: debootstrap. |
| 16:11.24 | karsten | nixbox: debootstrap then. |
| 16:11.32 | Azar | karsten: lately Debian News publishes only once /month. Now we got a second one |
| 16:11.42 | Azar | http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/current/issue/ |
| 16:11.47 | karsten | Azar: Ah. |
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| 16:13.05 | metaperl | The debian installer guessed that my domain name was utekcorp.local not utekcorp.com ... |
| 16:13.54 | karsten | metaperl: only the hostname is assigned locally. Rig up the rest in DNS. |
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| 16:15.50 | Ronin | metaperl: so change it |
| 16:15.57 | Diamond | Hi |
| 16:16.11 | Diamond | does anyone knows a good ftp server non anonymous ? |
| 16:16.15 | Diamond | for debian r4 |
| 16:16.23 | keith80403 | Anyone know what screen grab tool is used to create .png or .gif graphics of text mode screens, like those here: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_sarge ? |
| 16:16.26 | karsten | Diamond: oxymoron. |
| 16:16.29 | Diamond | easy to config |
| 16:16.31 | metaperl | Ronin - i did. I was just wondering why that happened. I suppose because our network here is windows-based and this machine did DHCP or something to a windows box |
| 16:16.36 | SpeedyG | Diamond: I use pure-ftpd |
| 16:16.40 | SpeedyG | works like a charm :) |
| 16:16.48 | streuner | apt, find libaprutil-0.so.0 |
| 16:16.48 | karsten | Diamond: authenticating ftp is so 1980. |
| 16:17.15 | Diamond | SpeedyG : can you help me installing and configuring pure-ftpd ? |
| 16:17.21 | Diamond | i am not that good with linux |
| 16:17.24 | Azar | keith80403: I use the gkrellm screen shot in combination with imagemagick |
| 16:17.27 | Diamond | so i need some help |
| 16:17.37 | Diamond | have some time to help me ? |
| 16:17.38 | karsten | keith80403: Probably any of the standard screencapture utilities + vmware or qemu. |
| 16:17.42 | Ronin | Diamond: apt-get install pure-ftpd and read teh docs and thier website |
| 16:17.55 | keith80403 | Azar, karsten, I'll check out gkrellm - thanks. |
| 16:18.03 | SpeedyG | Diamond: what Ronin says |
| 16:18.04 | streuner | junix|work: libaprutil-0.so.0 isn't in debian... |
| 16:18.05 | karsten | Diamond: Friends don't let friends send passwords in plaintext over the IntarWeb any more. |
| 16:18.26 | Azar | keith80403: karsten knows better the tools he propose might fit your needs better |
| 16:18.40 | karsten | keith80403: ... or you could ask Mr. Falko. |
| 16:18.45 | GNP | OK for those who dont remember me I am very new to debian/nix... I want to turn the box into a home server that will house a domain/website. I want to end up with it being just like my regular hosting accounts with cpanel and the works. Should I start with something like xampp or install apache, php and all seperatly?? |
| 16:19.05 | streuner | junix|work: what does that mean for you, well just remove any *apache* package installed on your box. |
| 16:19.16 | jumpship | vuts the main diff between apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. the man page seems to indicate that update syncronizes the list, while upgrade actually upgrades the packages? |
| 16:19.43 | Azar | jumpship: exactly |
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| 16:20.08 | jumpship | azar: so update doesnt really "update packages" it updates the list ? |
| 16:20.29 | Azar | jumpship: yes, and it is needed as a preparation for the actual upgrade |
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| 16:20.40 | jumpship | azar: ok cool. thanks so much |
| 16:21.22 | streuner | junix|work: *Those* packages MUST go away of your system, no matter what happens. |
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| 16:21.31 | jumpship | gnp: maybe install all that stuff on the initial install of Debian |
| 16:22.00 | CrippsFX | when I do apt-get upgrade, apt holds back firefox, xchat, and kernel upgrades. What do I have to edit to allow some of these updates through, and/or prevent others from coming through? |
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| 16:22.29 | GNP | well Ive got debian installed now along with x and kde |
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| 16:23.16 | Azar | that for is aptitude, it removes, reinstalls and brings the dependent packages with what you need. If you got a mess , "aptitude" fixes it |
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| 16:23.43 | CrippsFX | Azar, was that directed at me? |
| 16:24.06 | Azar | CrippsFX: yes |
| 16:24.17 | Azar | apt-get = works, aptitude = works better |
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| 16:25.07 | Azar | jumpship: is same thing, only aptitude installs/uninstalls all friends and relatives of a package |
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| 16:25.34 | jumpship | azar: where apt just maybe finds friends and no relatives? |
| 16:25.38 | Azar | dependents... damn I have to do the taxes too |
| 16:25.52 | Azar | jumpship: something like that |
| 16:26.50 | Azar | with apt-get sometimes say you install a package. You will see a list of "recommends" for others that will not get installed. I used to write all them down then do apt-get again to install those |
| 16:27.35 | Azar | aptitude goes in and installs all of them. Ofcourse sometimes you might not want them so that when you use apt-get |
| 16:27.39 | karsten | jumpship: It's long past time. OTOH, it's a drop-in replacement for apt-get on the commandline (very nearly entirely). |
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| 16:27.46 | |ac3| | What is the best way to call amavisd-new? => http://pastebin.com/872214 |
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| 16:28.29 | jumpship | great. thanks |
| 16:28.57 | Azar | jumpship: aptitude is great when doing something major like say installing a new kernel or doing a dist-upgrade to jump to the next Debian |
| 16:29.12 | abrotman | Azar: that's a setting you can change |
| 16:29.17 | jumpship | oh cool. cause i had some kernel issues with sarge to etch |
| 16:29.32 | Azar | abrotman: on aptitude? to select what you want ? |
| 16:29.45 | hark | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.52 | abrotman | Azar: for recommends .. and to uninstall them automagically |
| 16:30.13 | Azar | abrotman..... :) cool, which setting? |
| 16:30.20 | abrotman | poke around |
| 16:30.28 | Azar | ok , thanks for the tip |
| 16:30.56 | GNP | how do I get a list of packages to download that Ill need to set up a server with apt-get |
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| 16:31.38 | GNP | or how do I get just a basic list of packages available to dl |
| 16:31.38 | jumpship | I'm really stoked about Debian. I been using RH/FC since 2000 which i learned on, and while there is some learning curve to Debian, all in all it has been nothing short of awesome. the package management is definatly a hot feature for users who just want software installed and need to spend more time on applications/development, rather than system/application/package configuration |
| 16:31.38 | Azar | GNP use apt-cache search <packagename> |
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| 16:33.16 | Azar | GNP: or here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 16:33.52 | streuner | abrotman: http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;311998848;fp;2;fpid;1 |
| 16:33.58 | hark | GNP: tasksel can give you the list of default applications for a specific 'task', say dns-server |
| 16:34.03 | jumpship | GNP: what features are you looking to have installed? I've found that if you identify main ones like "apache2" or "php", all the other dependencies/details are taken care of for you |
| 16:34.13 | GNP | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.48 | Azar | GNP maybe is not in the Stable repositories, might use backports to get a higher version |
| 16:34.49 | Ronin | GNP: because php5 isn't in sarge |
| 16:34.49 | jumpship | hark: o nice. that tasksel sounds like sweet feature! |
| 16:35.04 | GNP | Im wanting to turn the box into a server |
| 16:35.11 | Azar | :) |
| 16:35.23 | Ronin | GNP: yes we know :) |
| 16:35.25 | abrotman | streuner: i saw quite some time ago |
| 16:35.34 | hark | GNP: if you're on sarge yes. Unless you use backports |
| 16:35.36 | abrotman | streuner: notice the date on the article |
| 16:35.42 | streuner | abrotman: well, they (HP) give telephon support... |
| 16:35.54 | abrotman | yeah .. i saw |
| 16:36.07 | hark | jumpship: you probably have noticed it when you installed Debian. man tasksel |
| 16:36.14 | streuner | abrotman: sure, but HP use Debian since a few days for more servers now... |
| 16:36.35 | Diamond | hmm pure-ftpd i way to complex for me |
| 16:36.39 | Azar | yep HP is on same train for long now |
| 16:36.44 | Diamond | i want to setup a'n easy ftp server for linux |
| 16:36.56 | hark | try vsftpd |
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| 16:37.30 | Azar | you know, I have this feeling that because Debian community don't bow under media pressure to release earlier, draws respect from interested parties |
| 16:37.45 | Azar | and confidence on the upcoming OS |
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| 16:39.53 | jumpship | harK: actually i missed it... |
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| 16:40.58 | abrotman | streuner: yeah .. i know |
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| 16:41.39 | crazy_penguin | hello! |
| 16:41.49 | streuner | abrotman: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/84591 |
| 16:42.02 | streuner | abrotman: thats pretty new, in german |
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| 16:44.14 | nixbox | i am installing using debootstrap, when i do /usr/sbin/base-config new i get a "Terminated" message |
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| 16:49.09 | Azar | streuner: http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/3E7DD83A3AD071DFCC25726F000B80B3 |
| 16:49.15 | GNP | when I apt-cache search cpanel I get back A config tool for chinese desktop inviornment |
| 16:49.26 | GNP | I assume thats not the cpanel I want |
| 16:49.32 | petemc | cpanel isnt free |
| 16:49.33 | jorgeu | hi, why dpkg doesn't respond to my messages? |
| 16:49.47 | Azar | jorgeu: lunch break? |
| 16:50.01 | jorgeu | Azar, isn't a bot? |
| 16:50.20 | Azar | jorgeu: yep but sometimes it gets offline for grooming, feeding.. |
| 16:50.39 | jorgeu | Azar, yeah, right |
| 16:50.39 | smimp | jorgeu: Azar is dpkg's alter ego |
| 16:51.04 | Azar | yep he is already out |
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| 16:51.39 | jorgeu | i just wanted to know the status of the etch release |
| 16:51.43 | Ronin | jorgeu: its a union thing for dpkg |
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| 16:52.05 | Azar | jorgeu: etch will not be released soon, no date of release |
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| 16:53.05 | jorgeu | i'm tired to compile everthing in slackware for several years, so i'm looking for another distro |
| 16:53.16 | jorgeu | debian etch looks good for me |
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| 16:54.02 | Azar | jorgeu: get Sarge then dist-upgrade to Etch when it gonna come out |
| 16:54.06 | jorgeu | some friends told me that "testing" should work for me now |
| 16:54.09 | cwheeler | likewise jorgeu |
| 16:54.14 | cwheeler | i'm using etch |
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| 16:54.46 | jorgeu | cwheeler, any know fatal bug? |
| 16:54.59 | cwheeler | no, i've had no problems |
| 16:55.11 | cwheeler | just learning to do things the debian way |
| 16:55.15 | jorgeu | cwheeler, what about gnome? |
| 16:55.30 | Ronin | what about it? |
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| 16:55.47 | cwheeler | I had to learn how to get it to work the way i want |
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| 16:55.51 | cwheeler | it works fine |
| 16:55.58 | jorgeu | simple, good, 2.14, 2.16, any comments? |
| 16:56.03 | Azar | jorgeu: by now many use etch in "testing" and mostly are happy with it |
| 16:56.08 | metaperl | someone pinged me? |
| 16:56.35 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:57.18 | metaperl | I dont think my IRC client supports that petemc |
| 16:57.20 | jorgeu | well, maybe i will try etch "testing" soon |
| 16:57.29 | jorgeu | thanks for the attention |
| 16:57.37 | metaperl | so my options for a guI pkg mgr for Debian/testing are Synaptic and Aptitude? |
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| 16:57.45 | Ramattack | hi everybody |
| 16:57.52 | charzero | There is a GUI package manager?! |
| 16:58.13 | charzero | Next you'll tell me that Etch is going to have a graphical installer. |
| 16:58.20 | Ramattack | from the seven consoles debian has... only seventh console (the x console) deals correctly with keyboard simbols... how could I repair this? |
| 16:59.32 | cwheeler | charzero synaptic |
| 16:59.49 | metaperl | cwheeler - what about aptitude? |
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| 17:00.26 | cwheeler | I haven't tried aptitude |
| 17:00.43 | metaperl | cwheeler - do you like synaptic? I like the Fink Commander when using Fink |
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| 17:00.45 | bony | i have a via board is it possible to get beryl working on it? |
| 17:00.50 | fs-a | hi, how can i in X swap the 'x' key with 'r' in a simple way? |
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| 17:01.09 | metaperl | fs-a - xmodmap? |
| 17:01.14 | Ronin | fs-a: you want to type in jumbles? |
| 17:01.22 | Humanoid | Why do many programs now keep saying: "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib"? It used to work perfectly a long time ago. Even if I use LC_ALL="C" or LC_ALL="POSIX" it still gives me the same error. |
| 17:01.28 | fs-a | Ronin: i dont want it for those two specifically |
| 17:01.33 | cwheeler | synaptic usually works fine, i've had to use apt-get a couple times |
| 17:01.35 | fs-a | metaperl: do you know the line that would do it? |
| 17:01.45 | metaperl | fs-a - i do not |
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| 17:01.49 | fs-a | k |
| 17:02.25 | Humanoid | At what version did xlib suddenly stop supporting all locales? I think back when we used xfree it was working fine. |
| 17:03.02 | GNP | is there a free version of something like cpanel? |
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| 17:03.18 | metaperl | GnP - webmin? |
| 17:03.28 | metaperl | wait, what is cpanel? |
| 17:03.45 | GNP | a web hosting admin tool |
| 17:03.59 | metaperl | GnP - yeah I tought so. webmin does things like that |
| 17:04.12 | metaperl | GNP - we use domtool at http://www.hcoop.net |
| 17:04.22 | metaperl | but domtool is command line... we like it though |
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| 17:04.56 | GNP | Im to new to the game to go command line only lol |
| 17:05.08 | metaperl | lol |
| 17:05.36 | dusty-sts | Hey guys, I keep having to do mknod /dev/pppp c 108 0 when i reboot my system because /dev/ppp disappears, is there anyway to make it stay there? |
| 17:06.09 | Azar | nice, a log colorizer tool : ccze http://debaday.debian.net/2007/01/31/ccze-a-robust-modular-log-coloriser/ |
| 17:06.25 | metaperl | dusty-sts - if nothing else, an @reboot command in cron might work |
| 17:06.39 | metaperl | i need to ge tout of this channe. I will waste all mornin typing :) |
| 17:07.00 | dusty-sts | metaperl, what do you mean an @reboot command? |
| 17:07.19 | Humanoid | dusty-sts: your /dev directory is probably a tmpfs check "/proc/mounts", in that case, either write a bootscript the creates it. Or if you're using the udev package you can set its config files to do that on every reboot. |
| 17:07.25 | metaperl | dusty-sts - man crontab(5) |
| 17:08.02 | dusty-sts | Humanoid, I am using udev, how would i do it that way? |
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| 17:09.08 | wathek | hello all |
| 17:09.16 | metaperl | wathek - hi |
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| 17:09.32 | Humanoid | dusty-sts: Take a look at /etc/init.d/udev, which is run at every reboot, and see which scripts it calls. Or maybe read "man udev" |
| 17:09.41 | wathek | some one could help me to configure a QoS ? |
| 17:10.28 | Humanoid | dusty-sts: I think it's in /etc/udev/links.conf |
| 17:11.00 | Humanoid | My links.conf already contains the line: "M ppp c 108 0" |
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| 17:11.40 | christopherl | how can I change colors in GNU bash? |
| 17:12.14 | Humanoid | dusty-sts: /etc/init.d/udev reads the /etc/udev/links.conf file. |
| 17:12.45 | GNP | will tasksel install web server work for setting up the box with everything needed to run a webserver? |
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| 17:13.41 | Gathond | GNP: probably depends on your definition of everything needed |
| 17:14.04 | sepski | GNP ofcourse not since the needs of one person is wildly different from another. |
| 17:14.09 | Noky | i think that slackware is most better than debian |
| 17:14.11 | Noky | debian suck |
| 17:14.11 | Noky | sorry |
| 17:14.13 | Noky | is my opinion |
| 17:14.13 | Noky | :P |
| 17:14.21 | Gathond | GNP: it will probably install anything required to display webpages yes, but it might not include database servers/scripting language or choice etc.etc. |
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| 17:14.38 | Gathond | Noky: great, but why bother comming here to tell us this? bored? |
| 17:15.00 | GNP | ok, so at least its a good place to start since Im not sure what all is needed anyway |
| 17:15.18 | Noky | Gathond: i like to think the same way that u |
| 17:15.22 | Noky | :> |
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| 17:15.48 | PupenoR | Hello. |
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| 17:16.07 | Gathond | GNP: probably is |
| 17:16.36 | charzero | christopherl: Do you mean the colors of your prompt? |
| 17:17.35 | unix_infidel | anyone happen to know of a file format that handles account settings for pop and imap clients like evolution, outlook, entourage, thunderbird, etc etc. |
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| 17:18.10 | PupenoR | A client unplugged a server from the power which seems to have broken the FS. I managed to fsck it and mount it and now it's working, but I've got these errors: ext3_readdir: directory #1141442 contains a hole at offset <various offsets>, and eventually EXT3-fs error (device md0) in start_transaction: Readonly filesystem. Any ideas what's wrong and/or how to fix it? |
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| 17:18.25 | wathek | some one could help me to configure a QoS ? |
| 17:19.18 | Azar | wathek: I saw your question. Personally I have no idea about QoS, maybe others but others might be at lunch, dinner.. shower |
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| 17:19.29 | Humanoid | Does anybody know why I keep getting warnings like: "locale not supported by Xlib" by so many programs? |
| 17:19.30 | wathek | lol ok |
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| 17:21.31 | Azar | Humanoid: looking at your question: "so many programs" might run on certain xlibs that you are missing, try maybe reinstalling the xserver-xorg or xserver-xfree86 using "aptitude" command ... just a thought |
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| 17:22.26 | JordiGH | If you enlarge fonts in Firefox, it takes longer to render a page, correct? |
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| 17:22.51 | mc__ | JordiGH: yes |
| 17:23.18 | JordiGH | I'll need to figure out another way to enlarge X fonts, then. Mess around with dpi and whatnot. |
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| 17:23.32 | Azar | JordiGH: get a pair of prescription glasses? |
| 17:23.37 | PWizard | Why would it slow down rendering? |
| 17:23.45 | JordiGH | Azar, heh. :-) |
| 17:24.27 | Ronin | JordiGH: stop using such an insanely high resolution on the monitor then |
| 17:24.28 | Azar | maybe he uses the fancy resolution on his display that why the text become minuscule |
| 17:24.51 | Azar | yea use the normal resolution man |
| 17:25.08 | PWizard | jordigh: use the gnome/kde font preferences to crank up the dpi |
| 17:25.21 | JordiGH | My resolution is 1024x768. I think that's reasonable. |
| 17:25.33 | Azar | hmm ype that's the normal |
| 17:25.37 | JordiGH | http://wiki2.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg7#Display_Size.2FDPI |
| 17:25.44 | JordiGH | That's what I'm going to try to follow now. |
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| 17:28.38 | christopherl | charzero: yes |
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| 17:29.06 | christopherl | charzero: Do you know how to customize the colors? |
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| 17:30.00 | charzero | christopherl: I did once, give me a sec... |
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| 17:30.25 | cyzie | christopherl, ls color ? |
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| 17:30.56 | christopherl | cyzie: the promt color in Bash |
| 17:31.38 | charzero | christopherl: See man bash, the PROMPTING section |
| 17:31.38 | cyzie | check in .bashrc or .bash_profile |
| 17:31.47 | cahoot | christopherl: you might be interested in the bash prompt howto |
| 17:31.51 | ralph_spencer | hello, i have a problem with cross compile, problem with coreutils (pc with compiler 5.97 and pc destination 5.2) |
| 17:31.57 | christopherl | ok thanks |
| 17:32.26 | ralph_spencer | this is error: http://paste.debian.net/21117 |
| 17:32.37 | charzero | charzero: \[ gets you into the terminal control sequences, which can be used to control colour. |
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| 17:33.21 | JordiGH | If I want bigger fornts, I need to use more DPI, right_ |
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| 17:33.22 | JordiGH | ? |
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| 17:33.26 | JordiGH | Argh. |
| 17:33.37 | ralph_spencer | 1st system is with debian etch 2.6.18-686; 2nd (destination) debian sarge 2.6.15-486 |
| 17:33.47 | charzero | christopherl: google search for "terminal control sequence color" should find you a listing of the colors. |
| 17:33.53 | cahoot | JordiGH: the reverse I'd say |
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| 17:34.23 | JordiGH | Hm. X already says it's at 75 DPI. |
| 17:34.26 | christopherl | ok |
| 17:34.29 | charzero | christopherl: example: http://www.sbyrne.org/~sbyrne/prompt |
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| 17:35.35 | JordiGH | In fact, KDE apps show good fonts. |
| 17:35.50 | JordiGH | There was this thing somewhere to make GTK apps be controlled by KDE... |
| 17:36.27 | cahoot | JordiGH: tried change your .gktrc? |
| 17:37.00 | JordiGH | There is no .gtkrc |
| 17:37.12 | charzero | christopherl: refresh that page, there was a mistake |
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| 17:37.21 | christopherl | ok |
| 17:37.24 | JordiGH | I think gtk-qt-engine is what I like. |
| 17:37.30 | JordiGH | what I want... |
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| 17:38.22 | thug | whats the " cpan " channel ? |
| 17:38.28 | thug | does anyone know ? |
| 17:38.32 | justin | thug: #perl |
| 17:38.44 | JordiGH | comprehensive perl archive network. |
| 17:38.45 | JordiGH | !cpan |
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| 17:40.15 | ralph_spencer | hello, i have a problem with cross compile, problem with coreutils (pc with compiler 5.97 and pc destination 5.2) |
| 17:40.18 | ralph_spencer | this is error: http://paste.debian.net/21117 |
| 17:40.20 | christopherl | charzero: so you know which file I need configure? |
| 17:40.21 | ralph_spencer | 1st system is with debian etch 2.6.18-686; 2nd (destination) debian sarge 2.6.15-486 |
| 17:40.48 | charzero | christopherl: I have that file in /etc/prompt, and my .bashrc does "source /etc/prompt" |
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| 17:41.02 | christopherl | ok |
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| 17:48.45 | Zap-W | does stage1 file also contain the partition table? |
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| 17:52.24 | mindframe | where should my kernel header files be located? (vmware is looking for version.h) |
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| 17:52.49 | mindframe | i found version.h in /usr/include/linux - is this the correct spot? |
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| 17:53.27 | justin | mindframe: no |
| 17:53.37 | justin | mindframe: apt-cache search `uname -r` headers |
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| 17:54.32 | Coke | Hi! I'm having problems with the 2.6.18 kernel (testing source package) and my on-board Ethernet (nvidia MCP51 rev a1). The driver loads and my eth0 interface is up, but no communication gets through. When I look at the LED's of the NIC and DSL modem slots they flash. My Realtek NIC on the same box works without problems. A 2.6.18 bug? |
| 17:54.34 | mindframe | should go to /usr/src/linux*/include now right? |
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| 17:56.19 | abrotman | streuner: it's also in german |
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| 17:57.39 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 17:57.43 | abrotman | still dead |
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| 18:00.10 | jetscreamer | mindframe: usually /usr/src/linux-heades-`uname -r` |
| 18:00.29 | jetscreamer | headers' |
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| 18:15.54 | ^Timo^ | Hi |
| 18:15.57 | ^Timo^ | someone alive out here? |
| 18:16.14 | Ronin | ^Timo^: nope we're all dead |
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| 18:16.25 | DemonJester | including dpkg :) |
| 18:16.35 | Ronin | especially dpkg |
| 18:16.36 | frafra | :) |
| 18:16.36 | ^Timo^ | i have question how do i copy all files from a dir to another dir ? |
| 18:16.46 | DemonJester | mv |
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| 18:16.49 | rahul | .. |
| 18:16.55 | rahul | !unixbasics |
| 18:16.56 | Cabezza | mv -r |
| 18:16.58 | pumpkin0 | [gnome, etch] is it possible to use a script as screensaver ? I want to dim the TFT on my laptop after 3min... (echo "1" > proc/acpi/ibm/...) |
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| 18:17.15 | charzero | ^Timo^: cp -r |
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| 18:17.24 | rahul | ^Timo^: http://freeengineer.org/learnUNIXin10minutes.html |
| 18:17.58 | Ronin | nice url rahul :) |
| 18:18.08 | DemonJester | lol |
| 18:18.10 | zOap | is there a linux shortcut program that can read values from Showkeys? |
| 18:18.21 | rahul | shortcut program? showkeys? |
| 18:18.47 | Cabezza | what are the showkeys? |
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| 18:19.19 | zOap | rahul, a global keyboard shortcut daemon, which can read values from Showkeys. Showkeys is a program that shows hex values of key presses |
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| 18:19.31 | rahul | what on earth |
| 18:19.37 | rahul | !wayttd zOap |
| 18:19.46 | rahul | !penixstrike dpkg |
| 18:19.52 | zOap | rahul, wayttd? |
| 18:19.53 | gnp_nix | cool, got irc working :) |
| 18:20.03 | rahul | no, waYttd? |
| 18:20.05 | ^Timo^ | uhzm... cp -r does not work |
| 18:20.12 | rahul | ^Timo^: man pc |
| 18:20.14 | rahul | erg |
| 18:20.16 | rahul | ^Timo^: man cp |
| 18:20.25 | zOap | rahul, could you say that in real words? |
| 18:20.29 | cahoot | man pc would be a start |
| 18:20.45 | rahul | zOap: well... could you say what you want in real words? heh |
| 18:21.14 | x-and | No manual entry for pc |
| 18:21.14 | Cabezza | cp |
| 18:21.15 | rahul | is it sunday again? |
| 18:21.15 | cahoot | slapstick |
| 18:21.15 | DemonJester | hehe |
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| 18:21.33 | x-and | rahul: yes |
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| 18:22.01 | zOap | rahul, I told you. I am asking if anyone knows of a program/dameon that works like a global keyboard shortcut app. That daemon needs to accept values from the program Showkeys, which shows you hex values when you do a key press... what could be more clear than that? |
| 18:22.03 | rahul | hey look, it's a camel |
| 18:22.18 | rahul | zOap: and what the hell is a global shortcut keyboard app? |
| 18:22.41 | rahul | where is this showkeys program found? |
| 18:22.48 | ^Timo^ | okay |
| 18:22.49 | zOap | rahul, you don't know? both Gnome, Xfce, KDE and the like has one. |
| 18:23.03 | zOap | rahul, just apt-get install showkeys |
| 18:23.08 | rahul | zOap: how can anything in that be global? |
| 18:23.23 | zOap | rahul, just about anything |
| 18:23.28 | rahul | ... |
| 18:23.31 | rahul | what does that mean? |
| 18:23.48 | rahul | those things run in X. they can't be global. |
| 18:23.57 | zOap | rahul, that it works all over, not just in one specific program... |
| 18:24.04 | rahul | W: Unable to locate package showkeys |
| 18:24.14 | rahul | "all over" is not in X only. |
| 18:24.17 | rahul | what do you want? |
| 18:24.19 | zOap | rahul, pretty weird. try sudo showkeys |
| 18:24.30 | zOap | offcourse I mean in x |
| 18:24.41 | rahul | zOap: the only showkeys I have is for latex |
| 18:24.53 | rahul | of course X is not global. or anything CLOSE to global |
| 18:25.00 | rahul | say what you mean. mean what you say. thanks. |
| 18:25.13 | zOap | omfg. |
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| 18:25.58 | Greyscale | Can someone help me with dovecot? I don't get any error launching it, and it doesn't repond when I telnet to it |
| 18:26.14 | Greyscale | See for yourself: telnet dontpoke.us 110 |
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| 18:26.20 | ShredZ | yeey, got beryl working accelerated with nvidia on etch :) |
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| 18:26.56 | frafra | noveau 3d open accellerated driver for nvidia card in debian? |
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| 18:27.08 | ^Timo^ | how can i check rights stats of some dir? |
| 18:27.17 | sepski | ShredZ, frafra either open, or 3 accelerated, you have to pick one, |
| 18:27.20 | abrotman | Greyscale: waht's the error ? |
| 18:27.26 | Greyscale | no error at all. |
| 18:27.29 | abrotman | frafra: i don't think so |
| 18:27.31 | justin | frafra: you mean the pre pre pre pre pre alpha one that doesn't actually work? |
| 18:27.32 | Greyscale | It just fails silently |
| 18:27.38 | abrotman | Greyscale: you mean the daemon doesn't start ? |
| 18:27.40 | Greyscale | and when you telnet to it, it seems dead |
| 18:27.43 | Greyscale | no, it does start |
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| 18:27.58 | ShredZ | sepski: using the 96xx drivers on my geforce3 |
| 18:27.58 | frafra | justin, yes... will enter in experimental? |
| 18:27.59 | Greyscale | it just won't do anything when you telnet to it on port 110 |
| 18:28.04 | sepski | frafra, it's the open driver called nv, or the propritary accelerated driver called nvidia |
| 18:28.11 | ^Timo^ | ls -??? /dir/ ? |
| 18:28.19 | Paivakil | qiot |
| 18:28.32 | rahul | ^Timo^: have you considered going to the URL I directed you to? |
| 18:28.35 | abrotman | !open ports |
| 18:28.38 | abrotman | bah |
| 18:28.44 | Greyscale | not a ports problem either |
| 18:28.45 | ^Timo^ | ok |
| 18:28.45 | abrotman | Greyscale: netstat -plunt .. is it listening ? |
| 18:28.58 | rahul | netstat -tupl |
| 18:29.04 | rahul | pfft. |
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| 18:29.25 | Greyscale | tcp 0 0 *:pop3 *:* LISTEN 22927/dovecot |
| 18:29.25 | Greyscale | tcp 0 0 *:imap2 *:* LISTEN 22927/dovecot |
| 18:29.26 | jjazz | plunt is more pronouncable than tupl |
| 18:29.39 | Greyscale | jjazz, yes :) |
| 18:29.40 | abrotman | not for a DBA :) |
| 18:29.41 | justin | and the n shows numeric ports |
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| 18:29.56 | rahul | fine then, netstat -tuple |
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| 18:30.28 | ^Timo^ | rahul : i must check what the rights rwxx.. of that dir that i am in ?? |
| 18:30.36 | ^Timo^ | its something like ls -?? |
| 18:30.36 | Greyscale | tcp 0 0 *:pop3 *:* LISTEN root 582137 22927/dovecot |
| 18:30.37 | Greyscale | tcp 0 0 *:imap2 *:* LISTEN root 582136 22927/dovecot |
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| 18:30.44 | rahul | ^Timo^: READ THE PAGE |
| 18:30.53 | Greyscale | can someone tell me what to do next to diagnose the problem? |
| 18:31.00 | rahul | ^Timo^: LEARN, then use. |
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| 18:32.53 | streuner | abrotman: i know |
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| 18:32.58 | abrotman | okay! |
| 18:33.14 | streuner | abrotman: altavista.com --> babelfish |
| 18:33.20 | curt_ | Greyscale, i just logged in .. isn't dovecot usually setup to listen on specific ports? |
| 18:33.21 | abrotman | no way! |
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| 18:33.33 | Greyscale | curt_, :( what? |
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| 18:34.10 | curt_ | Greyscale, I just got here so I don't really know what your problem is ... but |
| 18:34.10 | wwallace | enouf, you hiding here? |
| 18:34.27 | curt_ | Greyscale, I have tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:110 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 16156/dovecot |
| 18:34.34 | g_o_o-d | I am having pentium 3 - 933 MHz machine and having serial D shaped connector for mice.. I am getting error in startx .. the device file is not opening.. tried all the options /dev/psaux with this option it says no and /dev/ttyS0 with this it hangs to the graphical screen with vertical static lines . |
| 18:34.39 | Greyscale | hehe, dovecot isn't working, doesn't give any errors, and doesn't give any ouput when I telnet to it on port 110 |
| 18:34.42 | qwehnce | hi, i just installed sarge and i am trying to move to etch, after changing the source.list and trying to apt the kernel headers, its telling me depends cannot/havenot been met? |
| 18:34.44 | Greyscale | it connects though |
| 18:35.16 | Greyscale | g_o_o-d, Easy method: Get a USB mouse |
| 18:35.25 | justin | g_o_o-d: /dev/psaux is for ps/2 mice. |
| 18:35.30 | curt_ | Greyscale, there is reference in the config notes that if you want to define specific ports you need to do so in a special way |
| 18:35.45 | Greyscale | I just want it to run on the standard ports |
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| 18:36.06 | yang | has anyone ever tried dns tunneling using ozyman ? |
| 18:36.16 | curt_ | Greyscale, from netstat it doesn't look like you have it setup that way (ie the *:* for port) |
| 18:36.22 | Greyscale | :| |
| 18:36.26 | wwallace | not but i try a tunnel to sneak in the us :P |
| 18:36.35 | Greyscale | curt_, do you know how to do that with dovecot? |
| 18:36.35 | g_o_o-d | any method to know the device file for mouse |
| 18:36.47 | Greyscale | /dev/serial I think |
| 18:36.48 | rahul | know where it's plugged in. |
| 18:36.52 | Greyscale | probably wrong though |
| 18:37.18 | abrotman | !mousedev |
| 18:37.33 | abrotman | use mousedev .. use /dev/input/mice .. put mousedev in /etc/modules |
| 18:37.46 | curt_ | Greyscale, dovecot almost completely works 'out of the box' on Debian .. I would purge and reinstall then just uncomment the listen directive in the config |
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| 18:38.12 | g_o_o-d | abrotman : i have also tried to use /dev/input/mice. i am having logitech serial mouse |
| 18:38.12 | Greyscale | curt_, did that, didn''t work |
| 18:38.17 | Greyscale | I will, however, try again |
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| 18:39.12 | g_o_o-d | where i find mousedev ? |
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| 18:40.24 | frafra | does exist a graphical tool for edit xorg.conf? |
| 18:40.58 | Greyscale | frafra, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver |
| 18:41.00 | wwallace | find mousedev |
| 18:41.24 | frafra | yes, but is not graphical :) |
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| 18:42.21 | Greyscale | abrotman, same error |
| 18:42.30 | janttsu | can't get rid of this: |
| 18:42.32 | janttsu | Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) |
| 18:43.32 | janttsu | when using fdisk |
| 18:43.33 | slept | hello, I somehow managed it by using compiz and switching abck and forth between kde and gnome to make all my windows in gnome to not have the maximize, minimize and close buttons ? how is this setting called and where can I change it (back) ? |
| 18:43.57 | justin | slept: sounds like your window manager is not running |
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| 18:44.50 | Ramattack | hi everybody |
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| 18:45.17 | slept | ok, that would be metacity for gnome default ? but I replace it by compiz anyway , don t I ? |
| 18:45.24 | Ramattack | My keyboard doesn't not work well on a to 6 console and yes in senventh console (X console) and via ssh what could I do? |
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| 18:45.58 | slept | Ramattack, what do you mean by well ? wrong keymap ? |
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| 18:46.46 | Ramattack | slept for example from one to six I do the key beside caps lock and 7 and should appear / |
| 18:46.51 | Ramattack | in x and ssh works |
| 18:46.56 | Greyscale | abrotman, you still there? :P |
| 18:46.58 | Ramattack | but in consoles one to six it doesn't |
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| 18:47.09 | Ramattack | the simbols are changed |
| 18:47.13 | curt_ | Greyscale, still not working? |
| 18:47.17 | Greyscale | nope |
| 18:47.22 | Greyscale | purged and reinstalled |
| 18:47.27 | Ramattack | for example a 8 instead of ( it's an * |
| 18:47.27 | Greyscale | same issue |
| 18:47.44 | Greyscale | icedove reports: Connection timeout to dontpoke.us |
| 18:47.49 | slept | Ramattack, you need to change your keymap - y and z might be changed aswell ... |
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| 18:48.13 | DemonJester | ls |
| 18:48.16 | Ramattack | not sure... but / this one yep |
| 18:48.22 | rahul | Ramattack: you've become french! |
| 18:48.25 | rahul | or perl |
| 18:48.31 | Ramattack | and can't find it on letters keyboard |
| 18:48.41 | Ramattack | can only use / on numerical keyboard |
| 18:48.52 | Ramattack | but on gnome works well and via ssh too... |
| 18:49.12 | rahul | you console keymap is set to the french one, probably |
| 18:49.19 | Ramattack | and how could I repair it? |
| 18:49.20 | rahul | azerty, I think |
| 18:49.30 | Greyscale | curt_, any idea what the hell is causing this for me? |
| 18:49.36 | Ramattack | although in gnome works well? |
| 18:49.38 | curt_ | Greyscale, did you setup the auth parts? |
| 18:49.43 | Greyscale | hmm |
| 18:49.53 | curt_ | Greyscale, I have a passusrdb in /etc/dovecot |
| 18:49.58 | Greyscale | no.. hmm |
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| 18:50.14 | Greyscale | curt_, what do I need to add to the stock conf? |
| 18:50.45 | rahul | dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 18:50.45 | rahul | Ramattack: dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
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| 18:50.57 | curt_ | Greyscale, there are a couple of examples in /usr/share/doc/dovecot-common |
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| 18:51.05 | Greyscale | thanks :) |
| 18:51.24 | Thms | I will reinstall windows, for reinstall grub can I insert a disk of debian etch and go to the step grub installation ? |
| 18:51.37 | Greyscale | curt_, which one am I looking for? |
| 18:52.03 | Ramattack | rahul and could be so posible... to work bad on console (control+alt+f1-6) but fine on gnome or ssh? |
| 18:52.07 | curt_ | Greyscale, you need select your auth method (login) and then add you users to a password database |
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| 18:52.23 | rahul | Ramattack: they handle the keyboard separately |
| 18:52.24 | Greyscale | okay :) |
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| 18:52.43 | rahul | Ramattack: X goes directly to the keyboard. remote connections aren't even relevant. they're not on the same computer. |
| 18:53.15 | slept | where is dpkg ? |
| 18:53.18 | curt_ | Greyscale, there are other ways of doing it but that is how I did it. |
| 18:53.21 | Ramattack | ok then guys thanks a lot and how could I become french? quite strange don't you think ? |
| 18:53.30 | Ramattack | wow... really weird |
| 18:53.32 | Greyscale | curt_, so which line is it? |
| 18:54.13 | Ramattack | only curiously.... |
| 18:54.21 | Ramattack | it's a job server that makes this |
| 18:54.28 | Ramattack | I'll try it tomorrow |
| 18:54.44 | Ramattack | only that question how could I become french folks? |
| 18:55.20 | curt_ | Greyscale, see /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf and search for the auth default section and passdb passwd-file |
| 18:56.33 | robin_sz | Ramattack, well, I guess you would have to live there for a few years, learn the language and then apply for nationality. |
| 18:56.50 | Ramattack | lol robin_sz ..... |
| 18:57.05 | Ramattack | rahul, slept installing some wrong package? |
| 18:57.08 | curt_ | Greyscale, http://wiki.dovecot.org/AuthDatabase/PasswdFile explains hoe to setup the passwdFile |
| 18:57.18 | curt_ | hehe s/hoe/how/ |
| 18:57.27 | Greyscale | curt_, the issue raelly isn't logging in |
| 18:57.34 | Greyscale | it just doesn't even get to that bit |
| 18:57.52 | Greyscale | try connecting to it with telnetosee what Imean |
| 18:58.00 | rahul | Ramattack: I doubt that's what would do it |
| 18:58.02 | Greyscale | stupid space bar is on its way out |
| 18:58.12 | Greyscale | telnet dontpoke.us 110 :P |
| 18:58.17 | slept | Ramattack, when you do the dpkg-reconfigure console-data you select the keymap its the awert or somthing like that the line under the numbers |
| 18:58.25 | curt_ | Greyscale, well if you have the base packages installed you only have to uncomment a few things at the top of the conf and setup the auth part to get it working afiak |
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| 18:59.11 | Ramattack | I don't think never have done dpkg-reconfigure console-data.. but perhaps after installing any package... done a reconfiguration... don't know |
| 18:59.29 | Ramattack | well anyway thanks a lot again folks |
| 18:59.32 | Ramattack | bye!!! |
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| 18:59.47 | slept | Ramattack, no you have to do it to make it work |
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| 19:00.22 | Ramattack | and how could it be make work... installing some package perhaps? |
| 19:00.41 | slept | no just type the line , thats it nothing else |
| 19:00.55 | Ramattack | ok ok folks |
| 19:00.58 | gnp_nix | is it possible to use remote desktop and kde to have someone take control of my box and set it up to be a home server? |
| 19:01.04 | Ramattack | thanks a lot as said again |
| 19:01.19 | Ramattack | good night!! |
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| 19:02.08 | cernui | Hi! I have to launch a process, wich aftrer I logoff has to be alive. How can I? |
| 19:02.27 | JordiGH_ | Correct me if I'm wrong and I'll eat a bug, but is the testing version number of maint-guide higher than the unstable version number? |
| 19:02.50 | zinx | !info maint-guide testing |
| 19:03.02 | Greyscale | arrgh curt_, can you look at my conf and tell me where I am totally screwing up? |
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| 19:03.24 | curt_ | !paste |
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| 19:03.31 | JordiGH_ | !test |
| 19:03.41 | JordiGH_ | Where did dpkg go? :-( |
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| 19:03.43 | gnp_nix | godaddy.com |
| 19:03.49 | gnp_nix | opps sorry |
| 19:03.51 | curt_ | dpkg where are you? |
| 19:03.51 | zinx | ~info maint-guide testing |
| 19:03.53 | zinx | :( |
| 19:04.00 | gnp_nix | wrong keyboard |
| 19:04.33 | ice63 | hello can i get some help on installing ati driver in Debian pl |
| 19:05.17 | zinx | ~info maint-guide unstable |
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| 19:05.40 | JordiGH_ | Hrrmmm.... |
| 19:05.54 | zinx | Jordi: eat a bug blz |
| 19:05.59 | JordiGH_ | I guess my apt list is wrong, then. Wtf. I thought I just apt-got updated. |
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| 19:09.40 | curt_ | Greyscale, mine is here http://channels.debian.net/paste/5225 |
| 19:09.53 | abrotman | Greyscale: error ? |
| 19:10.14 | Greyscale | eep, lots of people talking at me |
| 19:10.35 | curt_ | abrotman, dpkg seems to have gone away... |
| 19:10.45 | abrotman | curt_: been gone all day :) |
| 19:10.48 | curt_ | oo |
| 19:10.57 | abrotman | dpkg: stop being lazy! |
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| 19:11.03 | esters | yeah dpkg |
| 19:11.11 | abrotman | badgers: eat curt_ |
| 19:11.42 | curt_ | abrotman, to bad my wifes not a bot .. heh |
| 19:12.23 | abrotman | curt_: you want her to use her teet ? |
| 19:12.23 | slept | what is the name of the compiz option that makes the windows loose their borders and all the buttons close etc. |
| 19:12.41 | abrotman | man compiz ? |
| 19:13.11 | justin | slept: are you paying attention? |
| 19:13.15 | slept | abrotman, no, thats one of the worst man pages ... no information |
| 19:13.17 | justin | 13:43 < justin> slept: sounds like your window manager is not running |
| 19:13.35 | justin | compiz == window manager. no compiz -> no window manager |
| 19:13.58 | slept | justin, it is running |
| 19:14.26 | justin | slept: sure about that? |
| 19:14.36 | slept | it makes all the other fancy things it just lacks those buttons and the possibility to move windows without pressing ALT |
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| 19:15.34 | justin | slept: oooh |
| 19:15.40 | justin | slept: you need to run the separate window-border program |
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| 19:16.03 | slept | justin, do you know its name ? |
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| 19:16.20 | justin | slept: apt-cache search compiz |
| 19:16.30 | slept | justin, no |
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| 19:16.51 | slept | justin, it was working i am not missing software , the configuration is bad |
| 19:17.10 | slept | i am just searchin for the name of an option, but thanks |
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| 19:17.52 | justin | slept: it's not an option |
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| 19:18.18 | slept | well than its a bug ... |
| 19:18.25 | justin | slept: no, pay attention |
| 19:18.29 | justin | 14:15 < justin> slept: you need to run the separate window-border program |
| 19:18.53 | karsten | System accounts such as saned, ntp, vde-net, haldaemon, which have home directories specified: should said directories really exist (they don't) and if so with what perms? |
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| 19:20.58 | gnp_nix | do I need to install some kinda sw to get a better res for my desktop in kde? highest it goes now is 800x600 |
| 19:21.21 | libben | gnp_nix: do u have correct drivers? |
| 19:21.30 | Thug-N-Me | gnp_nix install the right video driver |
| 19:21.57 | libben | and have u changed your horizontals,verticals scan lines so they match ur monitors? |
| 19:22.06 | gnp_nix | can I just install from video card cd or do I need to find them with apt-get |
| 19:22.28 | libben | gnp_nix: what graphics card do u have? |
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| 19:22.42 | libben | please say nvidia =) |
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| 19:22.47 | gnp_nix | nvidia g-force mx 4000 |
| 19:22.51 | libben | good |
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| 19:23.21 | nvz | libben: you were right the first time. Hsync, Vrefresh |
| 19:23.32 | nvz | gnp_nix: its more important what monitor you have |
| 19:23.33 | libben | then typ this in terminal less /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:23.35 | nvz | !sync |
| 19:23.47 | libben | nvz: yeah... but making him update his drivers is a good thing also =) |
| 19:23.52 | libben | im pretty sure his on nv |
| 19:24.06 | gnp_nix | kds 17" flatscreen |
| 19:24.17 | karsten | haldaemon: nope, saned, nope, vde2-net nope. All have postinst scripts w/ --no-create-home arg to adduser. |
| 19:24.17 | nvz | libben: yeah well that doesnt address the issue at hand if you want to work harder go ahead :P |
| 19:24.27 | karsten | Question becomes: why specify a home dir at all. |
| 19:24.35 | libben | nvz: well i will make him change scanlines |
| 19:24.43 | libben | its allways scanlines that mess the res up |
| 19:24.57 | sussudio | %eat abrotman |
| 19:25.03 | karsten | Damn! Missing again. |
| 19:25.03 | abrotman | hi! |
| 19:25.18 | abrotman | badgers: love sussudio |
| 19:25.18 | nvz | sussudio: why the change in trigger? |
| 19:25.30 | sussudio | what? |
| 19:25.35 | karsten | nvz: Different bot. |
| 19:25.41 | karsten | nvz: dpkg is dead. |
| 19:25.45 | nvz | karsten: yeah, so? |
| 19:25.46 | abrotman | nvz: badgers has always been % |
| 19:25.46 | gnp_nix | /etc/X11/xorg.conf no such file or directory |
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| 19:25.53 | libben | gnp_nix: wich brand do u have on ur monitor ? browse to its exactly specs =) |
| 19:25.54 | karsten | dondelelcaro: Ping WRT dpkg |
| 19:26.14 | karsten | !ur |
| 19:26.18 | karsten | %ur |
| 19:26.19 | nvz | abrotman: umm, don't call me crazy.. heh.. I clearly remember him filling in for dpkg and using the same trigger |
| 19:26.19 | badgers | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. ... |
| 19:27.14 | abrotman | nvz: you're nuts! |
| 19:27.33 | libben | gnp_nix: type: less /etc/X11/xorg.conf in terminal |
| 19:27.37 | nvz | abrotman: oh well, I'm in love.. same thing right? |
| 19:27.53 | abrotman | nvz: does her name end with a vowel ? |
| 19:27.55 | metaperl | I had the Debian/testing installer write over the MBR but when I reboot I get "disk boot failure, insert system disk and continue" |
| 19:28.05 | nvz | abrotman: heh. Yep |
| 19:28.11 | abrotman | you're fucked |
| 19:28.16 | nvz | hah |
| 19:28.26 | abrotman | metaperl: is there anything in any drive ? |
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| 19:28.48 | gnp_nix | when I type that in terminal it returns /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory |
| 19:28.59 | metaperl | I checked. I dont think so |
| 19:29.17 | nvz | gnp_nix: are you using sarge? |
| 19:29.28 | gnp_nix | yes |
| 19:29.33 | nvz | gnp_nix: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 19:29.38 | norc | I'm having a very weird problem with my DVD writer, when I try `dd if=/dev/hdc of=foo.is': |
| 19:29.41 | norc | http://rafb.net/p/RQdF6p37.html |
| 19:29.57 | norc | I had this problem once, and im 100% sure none of the hardware (even not the dvd itself) is damaged. |
| 19:30.08 | norc | But that was back in times when I had Gentoo |
| 19:30.11 | gnp_nix | Permission denied |
| 19:30.34 | gnp_nix | and yes Im logged in as root |
| 19:30.37 | norc | Does anyone have a clue how to fix this thing? I think its somehow (?) connected to scsi.. |
| 19:30.57 | metaperl | apparently my boot problem can be handled like this : http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch07s01.html.en ... let's hope so |
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| 19:32.23 | CharminTheMoose | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:32.31 | gnp_nix | why would I get Prem Denied if Im logged in as root? |
| 19:32.33 | charzero | norc: do you usually use ide-scsi? |
| 19:32.56 | norc | charzero: no.. |
| 19:33.06 | norc | charzero: Im totally confused with this whole problem.. |
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| 19:33.09 | CharminTheMoose | this is my umsdos mini distro. that i'm trying to put into a zip file |
| 19:33.11 | nvz | gnp_nix: only way root can be denied is if its trying to do something that isnt possible.. i.e. execute a file without an executable bit. |
| 19:33.20 | norc | Somehow nobody is able to figure out what the cause of this problem is.. |
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| 19:33.35 | norc | Back then I solved it by updating udev in Gentoo, but currently Im even using a newer version.. |
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| 19:33.49 | nvz | gnp_nix: thats irrelevant anyhow I think he was just havin you check what driver you were using. you need to find the make/model of your monitor and program in the right settings |
| 19:34.01 | nvz | gnp_nix: is this an LCD or a CRT? |
| 19:34.08 | gnp_nix | lcd |
| 19:34.12 | smacnay | is there a correct Debian way to use latex packages not in the Debian repository? |
| 19:34.36 | nvz | gnp_nix: did you tell the system you had an LCD when prompted? |
| 19:34.42 | gnp_nix | yes |
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| 19:35.16 | nvz | gnp_nix: do you know offhand the resolution and refresh rate for that thing? |
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| 19:35.54 | gnp_nix | what its set to now or what its max is? |
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| 19:36.25 | nvz | gnp_nix: well usually LCDs only have one.. but your's is probably a variable. so yeah what the max is |
| 19:36.55 | gnp_nix | max res is 1280x1024 |
| 19:37.00 | nvz | gnp_nix: you need to reconfigure xfree86 and choose the right settings for your display |
| 19:37.05 | gnp_nix | not sure what max refresh rate is |
| 19:37.40 | gnp_nix | so would I nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 19:37.40 | nvz | gnp_nix: you could try simple config choosing that res and different refresh rates until you get one that lets you go above 800x600 |
| 19:37.55 | nvz | gnp_nix: not unless you know what the exact values are |
| 19:38.07 | nvz | gnp_nix: otherwise you need to use simple config and trial-and-error |
| 19:38.08 | metaperl | I dont understand why having GRUB take over the MBR failed... instead of booting up, I get: "disk boot failure, insert system disk and continue" |
| 19:38.23 | nvz | gnp_nix: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 19:38.45 | rahul | metaperl: have the BIOS use that drive to boot up |
| 19:38.46 | nvz | gnp_nix: if you edit the file manually without updating the checksum dpkg-reconfigure (debconf) wont touch it anymore |
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| 19:39.14 | metaperl | rahul - well, it tries CD, then floppy, and then HD by default |
| 19:39.17 | ma3x | hey |
| 19:39.22 | nvz | hey what? |
| 19:39.23 | gnp_nix | driver would be nv correct? |
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| 19:39.25 | ma3x | how can I detect if I get dossed? |
| 19:39.28 | ma3x | I got router |
| 19:39.31 | ma3x | but the router doesnt log shit |
| 19:39.41 | nvz | gnp_nix: that will give you non-accelerated 2d support for your card, yes |
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| 19:40.01 | Ronin | ma3x: easy your network connection will die :) |
| 19:40.08 | karsten | ma3x: Then you'll have to log elsewhere. Monitoring your inbound traffic / outbound latency would be a good test. |
| 19:40.08 | gnp_nix | is there a better choice? |
| 19:40.14 | nvz | gnp_nix: you would need to install kernel modules for nvidia to get the most out of your card. but that has nothing to do with your resolution problem right now |
| 19:40.36 | ma3x | karsten: I have bandwidth metter, but I just arrived, and it just happened 5 minutes ago |
| 19:40.40 | danf_1979 | I need to repartition my disks, remotely. I want to make /var bigger... any good howto about this? |
| 19:40.40 | metaperl | rahul - oh I see, the BIOS has HDD-0 as the 3rd boot device after cdr and floppy... I also have options for hdd-1, hdd-2 and hdd-3 ... which o those would it be to boot? |
| 19:40.43 | nvz | gnp_nix: not in debian you need to install nvidia's drivers to get the "nvidia" driver which offeres 3d accelleration |
| 19:41.41 | karsten | ma3x: What just happened? |
| 19:41.42 | ma3x | karsten: connection not available |
| 19:41.42 | ma3x | disconnected |
| 19:41.42 | gnp_nix | bus identifier? |
| 19:41.51 | karsten | ma3x: Run a standard network diagnostic. Climb the OSI model, start at physical. |
| 19:41.53 | nvz | gnp_nix: you can leave that blank if you only have one video card |
| 19:42.28 | karsten | ma3x: physical, device, interface configuration, routing, DNS, connectivity. |
| 19:42.29 | nvz | gnp_nix: its mostly just used to tell the difference between multiple cards |
| 19:42.30 | ma3x | karsten: that's too complicated, I don't understand much of an OSI model |
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| 19:42.57 | karsten | ma3x: The gist isn't to understand so much as it is to start with the basics and find out where things break. |
| 19:43.02 | karsten | ma3x: See above. |
| 19:43.02 | ma3x | karsten: I got ADSL router, I don't run my dns and stuff |
| 19:43.15 | karsten | ma3x: I didn't say *run* them, I said *test* them. |
| 19:43.26 | karsten | ma3x: Workee. Have fun. |
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| 19:44.02 | ma3x | karsten: I tried pinging but it didn't work, and for 1 minute all the traffic was blocked |
| 19:44.11 | ma3x | how can I test it now when it's working |
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| 19:45.09 | gnp_nix | mouseport? I have a ps/2 |
| 19:45.14 | nvz | gnp_nix: choosing medium config 1280x1024@72 or something might help, if that doesnt work you might want to try @60 or whatever until you figure out something that works. also make sure you choose multiple resolutions in that screen. Otherwise you need to check online for the exact hsync and vrefresh rates for your screen you need the make and model number |
| 19:45.37 | nvz | gnp_nix: the mouse would usually be /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mice depending on what drivers you have loaded |
| 19:45.47 | gnp_nix | had trouble with this yesterday my ps/2 mouse never worked |
| 19:46.04 | gnp_nix | my usb mose worked |
| 19:46.08 | h3sp4wn | Or you can just write 1280x1024_60 in xorg.conf (you don't need modelines anymore) |
| 19:46.12 | nvz | gnp_nix: /dev/psaux is the legacy ps/2 device.. now they just use an input driver to link all input devices to teh /dev/input/ layer |
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| 19:46.41 | rahul | metaperl: I would guess 0 is primary master, 1 primary slave, etc |
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| 19:46.59 | metaperl | well, for some reason, it is not booting |
| 19:47.01 | nvz | gnp_nix: you probably had it configured /dev/input/mice but didnt have the driver loaded to make /dev/input/mice common for all mice i.e. to link the ps2 mouse driver to the input layer |
| 19:47.18 | Surferdude | dumb question: how do i select an item from the list in a debconf prompt? |
| 19:47.22 | nvz | gnp_nix: the usb mouse drivers automatically link to the input layer |
| 19:47.48 | Surferdude | i.e: result of apt-get localepurge |
| 19:48.00 | nvz | Surferdude: is it a single selection list or a multiple selection list? |
| 19:48.07 | Surferdude | multiple |
| 19:48.10 | nvz | Surferdude: usually spacebar |
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| 19:48.29 | garo | Where does debian keep it's iptables config ? |
| 19:48.33 | Surferdude | thats it, thanks |
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| 19:48.44 | gnp_nix | configurating the monitor do I want medium or advanced? |
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| 19:49.22 | nvz | gnp_nix: medium. advanced will ask you for the hsync and vrefresh which would be the end-all solution if you knew the values |
| 19:49.47 | ma3x | hey karsten there is some log on the router which displays this: http://channels.debian.net/paste/5226 |
| 19:49.51 | Shadow_mil | I need help... I just installed debian and the package xorg does not exist, its installing XF86 |
| 19:49.55 | Shadow_mil | or something like that |
| 19:50.00 | yang | has anyone ever tried dns tunneling using ozyman ? |
| 19:50.04 | ice63 | can i install ati driver jest like nvidia drivers |
| 19:50.05 | Shadow_mil | and its not working |
| 19:50.07 | ma3x | karsten: do you think some of the technicians restarted the modem, or it have restarted itself? |
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| 19:50.25 | jjazz | Shadow_mil: xorg isn't in stable, if that's what you installed. |
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| 19:50.37 | blinx | why my firefox32 doesn't work after update to iceweasel 2.0? |
| 19:50.43 | blinx | I removed and reinstalled it |
| 19:50.49 | ice63 | hmm |
| 19:51.02 | nvz | ice63: you cant install the nvidia driver just like the ati driver no more than you could eat a watermellon the same way you eat and orange |
| 19:51.04 | blinx | it doesn't load url |
| 19:51.06 | nvz | heh |
| 19:51.11 | gnp_nix | do I need to reboot the machine for the new config to load and get a 1024x768 option? |
| 19:51.21 | Shadow_mil | jjazz: it was stable on my last distro |
| 19:51.24 | blinx | Server not found |
| 19:51.34 | blinx | is there anywhere an option changed? |
| 19:51.35 | jjazz | Shadow_mil: I'm not sure how that's relevant. |
| 19:51.39 | sepski | gnp_nix, the only reason you reboot a linux box is to change the kernel. |
| 19:51.42 | nvz | gnp_nix: no, just restart the xserver are you using gdm login? |
| 19:51.46 | Azar | gnp_nix: no just exit X and restart it |
| 19:51.48 | x-and | Shadow_mil: xorg isn't in stable. |
| 19:52.06 | Shadow_mil | xorg has been around, for like a year!?! |
| 19:52.07 | jjazz | Shadow_mil: If you're installing stable, you can look into the backport of xorg or you can go with XF86. |
| 19:52.09 | Shadow_mil | or mroe |
| 19:52.12 | nvz | gnp_nix: /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
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| 19:52.15 | ice63 | nvz: ok is there a how to ? |
| 19:52.20 | x-and | Shadow_mil: and stable has been round longer |
| 19:52.21 | Ronin | Shadow_mil: doesnt mean it is in stable |
| 19:52.31 | Shadow_mil | -_- |
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| 19:52.37 | Shadow_mil | what is the stable version? |
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| 19:52.43 | Ronin | xfree |
| 19:52.47 | nvz | ice63: I am not the person to ask about ATI I never had any luck with it.. I'm an nvidia kinda guy |
| 19:52.51 | nvz | %ati |
| 19:52.51 | badgers | want to use a newer ATI videocard in sarge? for etch/testing and sid/unstable, just install fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src and read /usr/share/doc/fglrx-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz Try to avoid using ati's stuff directy unless you have to. |
| 19:52.58 | Shadow_mil | because xorg 7.X has worked fine for me, for like 8 months |
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| 19:53.06 | gnp_nix | bash: /etc/init.d/gdm: No such file or directory |
| 19:53.12 | x-and | it'll be in the new stable (etch)... soon |
| 19:53.13 | Shadow_mil | and XFree86 is not working at all |
| 19:53.17 | jjazz | Shadow_mil: You can complain or you can look into the solutions. Your choice. |
| 19:53.29 | nvz | gnp_nix: then you obviously dont use gdm.. do you use a graphical login manager? kdm maybe? or what |
| 19:53.44 | Azar | Shadow_mil: if you use Debian 3.1 - stable - aka Sarge xorg does not work on it |
| 19:53.54 | gnp_nix | yes I installed x, kde and kdm |
| 19:54.04 | Shadow_mil | I don't even know what version of Debian I am using, I did a net install |
| 19:54.07 | nvz | gnp_nix: then use /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
| 19:54.08 | ma3x | can I somehow hack my router? :p |
| 19:54.15 | bariel | hello, is there any quick way to know how many lines of code all do php files in a (sub) folder have? |
| 19:54.23 | Azar | Shadow_mil: then expect more weird things to happen |
| 19:54.30 | jjazz | bariel: man wc |
| 19:54.44 | bariel | jjazz, i know, but i must do it with ls |
| 19:54.47 | gnp_nix | Stopping K Display Manager: kdm not running/etc/init.d/kdm: line 104: kill: (1327) - Operation not permitted |
| 19:54.54 | jjazz | bariel: it counts lines, though if you want to exclude comments, you'll have to write a filter. |
| 19:54.58 | bariel | jjazz, i am thinking about ls -R *.php | wc -l or something like that |
| 19:55.22 | bariel | but somehow ls -R *.php wont work |
| 19:55.23 | Shadow_mil | Azar: I have never used XFree86, and I don't know how to configure it to work, how can I get a backport to xorg? |
| 19:55.28 | ice63 | nvz: i like nvidia to but i have a compaq i need to install Debian on and it has a ati video card |
| 19:55.29 | jjazz | bariel: Why not just wc *.php? |
| 19:55.49 | Azar | Shadow_mil: then I assume you are using some "derivative" Debian distro like Ubuntu |
| 19:55.58 | bariel | jjazz, ahh, can i do it with subdir? |
| 19:56.02 | Shadow_mil | Azar: I have been using ubuntu |
| 19:56.06 | mc__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.07 | nvz | ice63: well see what badgers said or /msg badgers ati |
| 19:56.09 | Ronin | Shadow_mil: maybe #ubuntu then |
| 19:56.17 | Azar | Shadow_mil: well see? that is the reason |
| 19:56.18 | amphi | ice63: is it supported by the xorg driver? |
| 19:56.19 | Shadow_mil | Ronin: I am using debian right now |
| 19:56.21 | jjazz | bariel: Ah, you want recursion. Hrm... |
| 19:56.33 | nvz | ice63: or just ask someone else.. heh .. I've installed ATI cards but never really got it working so I dont feel comfortable telling someone how to do it |
| 19:56.41 | Azar | Shadow_mil: tell then us what version of Debian and what kernel |
| 19:56.44 | andrew_p | what options are there to listen to .ape audio files in debian etch? i see none... nothing in main repository, nothing in debian-multimedia.org and nothing in rarewares.org :( |
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| 19:56.54 | jjazz | bariel: Maybe xargs |
| 19:56.56 | bariel | jjazz, ofcours i can copy all php files into one folder, but i think there must be a way to do it |
| 19:57.05 | hark | gnp_nix: as root! |
| 19:57.26 | Shadow_mil | GNU/Linux |
| 19:57.32 | Shadow_mil | Linux debian 2.4.27-3-386 #1 Thu Sep 14 08:44:58 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 19:57.39 | Azar | Shadow_mil: the version NUMBER of Debian |
| 19:57.49 | Ronin | Shadow_mil: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 19:58.02 | bariel | jjazz, this will work find . -iname '*.php' | xargs wc -l |
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| 19:58.09 | Shadow_mil | 3.1 |
| 19:58.22 | Ronin | sarge it is |
| 19:58.32 | Azar | Shadow_mil: ok you are using Debian 3.1 Sarge with a 2.4.27 kernel. Xorg does not work on that |
| 19:58.33 | jjazz | bariel: It should. Try it. |
| 19:59.08 | Azar | Shadow_mil: did you tried and installed xorg on it? |
| 19:59.15 | Shadow_mil | Azar: all the packages seem old, like python is only like 2.3 |
| 19:59.19 | Surferdude | is there such a package as kernel-image-2.6.16-1-686? |
| 19:59.24 | Shadow_mil | Azar: no, its not in the package manager |
| 19:59.44 | Azar | Shadow_mil: yes because the stable version never upgrades packages versions, it only upgrades the security patches |
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| 20:00.07 | hark | Surferdude: why? |
| 20:00.12 | Azar | ..that why it is stable :) |
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| 20:00.51 | Shadow_mil | well I am a python dev, and I know python 2.5 is out, and its also has PHP4, and PHP5 stable has been out for a long time |
| 20:00.57 | Surferdude | trying to install debian to a flash drive via debootstrap |
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| 20:01.12 | Surferdude | i need to download a kernel image i believe |
| 20:01.19 | Azar | Shadow_mil: well, install the "testing" 4.0 version of Debian then : Etch |
| 20:01.24 | jjazz | Shadow_mil: I think you might want to consider upgrading to a newer version of Debian. It sounds like you want a bunch of newer packages. |
| 20:01.36 | hark | Surferdude: linux-image-* |
| 20:01.36 | Ronin | or possibly look into backports as well |
| 20:01.55 | gnp_nix | well not sure what I did wrong but still only have 800x600 as max res |
| 20:01.55 | Azar | Ronin: he would have to upgrade the kernel first, is using a 2.4.27 |
| 20:01.55 | Surferdude | hark: huh? |
| 20:02.19 | norc | Do I understand that correctly that if I send a mail to debian-users@lists.debian.org I should also receive a copy of this mail? |
| 20:02.19 | Azar | I guess the faster and more direct way is to install Etch directly |
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| 20:03.40 | Azar | Shadow_mil: if you can't do a net install for Debian 4.0, then first you have to upgrade your exitent kernel to at least 2.6.8 then try to dist-upgrade to Debian 4.0 Etch |
| 20:03.47 | Surferdude | hmmm, maybe my sources.list is screwed up |
| 20:04.07 | Surferdude | i put in a 2nd repository though and it still doesnt work |
| 20:04.50 | Shadow_mil | Azar: how? |
| 20:05.14 | Azar | Shadow_mil: what is your cpu ? |
| 20:05.25 | Shadow_mil | its a i686 |
| 20:05.39 | Shadow_mil | 2.2GHz, Celeron D |
| 20:05.43 | Shadow_mil | I believe |
| 20:06.02 | hark | Surferdude: it's linux-image-* instead of kernel-image-* |
| 20:06.04 | Azar | Shadow_mil: ok do apt-cache search kernel-image gonna give you a long list, look for "2.6.8" on a 686 and note down the entire line |
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| 20:06.36 | Azar | Shadow_mil: then aptitude install kernel-image-xxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxxxxx << that line you noted down |
| 20:06.50 | Azar | hark no, thats on etch |
| 20:07.04 | Azar | Sarge still uses "kernel-image" |
| 20:07.12 | Azar | Shadow_mil: do you use lilo or grub? |
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| 20:07.22 | Shadow_mil | grub |
| 20:07.23 | Surferdude | both dont work... apt-get install linux-image-2.6.16-1-686 |
| 20:07.28 | hark | Surferdude: sarge or etch? |
| 20:08.00 | Azar | Shadow_mil: ok do that but use "aptitude" rather than apt-get |
| 20:08.05 | gnp_nix | well my ps/2 mouse works now :) but still stuck with 800x600 |
| 20:08.11 | hark | Surferdude: linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 20:08.11 | Surferdude | sarge |
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| 20:08.28 | Azar | hark see my comment up ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 20:08.31 | hark | Surferdude: then, that kernel is not available |
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| 20:08.42 | Surferdude | nope |
| 20:08.45 | Shadow_mil | Azar: ok its downloading |
| 20:08.46 | Shadow_mil | :D |
| 20:08.49 | Azar | Surferdude: use aptitude install kernel-image-xxxxx-xxxxx |
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| 20:09.13 | hark | Azar: yes, he was looking for 2.6.16. assumed etch |
| 20:09.29 | hark | Surferdude: then kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 20:09.32 | Azar | aaaaaahhh zoooooooooooo, use backports for higher kernel |
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| 20:09.49 | Shadow_mil | is anyone else here excited about KDE 4.0!?! |
| 20:09.59 | Azar | Shadow_mil: nope |
| 20:10.01 | Shadow_mil | its due to come out late this year |
| 20:10.03 | Shadow_mil | :( |
| 20:10.41 | libben | anyone trigger fstab for me i want to permanent mount my ntds drive so i can read from it |
| 20:11.04 | Surferdude | i think that did it |
| 20:11.16 | Shadow_mil | Azar: KDE is not bloated, what, you a gnome guy? |
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| 20:11.29 | Azar | Shadow_mil: naked X with a bg image here |
| 20:11.37 | Azar | and openbox |
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| 20:11.51 | Shadow_mil | lol |
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| 20:12.08 | Azar | yes and looks nicer than anyone else's desktop |
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| 20:12.32 | Shadow_mil | Azar: bg images take up so much memory, use just a soild color |
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| 20:12.40 | schwepp | hi, how can i apt-get a bittorrent client? |
| 20:12.57 | Azar | hehe I don't think so a simple bg image will take more than kde or gnome |
| 20:12.58 | ofer0 | schwepp, use azureus. you can't apt-get it right now |
| 20:13.00 | ofer0 | !azureus |
| 20:13.04 | ofer0 | wait a sec. |
| 20:13.09 | schwepp | i only have a console! :) |
| 20:13.15 | ofer0 | oh |
| 20:13.23 | ofer0 | so wait 2 seconds please. |
| 20:13.27 | schwepp | ok ;) |
| 20:13.35 | Shadow_mil | Azar: what do you think about fluxbox or jwm? |
| 20:13.41 | Shadow_mil | or window maker |
| 20:13.47 | Azar | schwepp: that good too, I sat 3 years on cli using irssi for irc , links for surfing and nethack for gaming |
| 20:13.55 | Shadow_mil | Azar: ok its done |
| 20:13.57 | Shadow_mil | init 6? |
| 20:14.06 | Azar | Shadow_mil: never used them , I fell inlove with openbox from the first sight |
| 20:14.27 | Azar | Shadow_mil: ok now do uname -r see what you got, err reboot first |
| 20:14.34 | ofer0 | schwepp, use "bittorrent", and run /usr/bin/bittorrent-curses |
| 20:14.40 | Shadow_mil | br |
| 20:14.43 | schwepp | thanks |
| 20:14.43 | Shadow_mil | brb |
| 20:14.45 | ofer0 | schwepp, http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/vivek/blogger/uploaded_images/bittorent-client-758129.png |
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| 20:17.16 | shadow_mil | ok rebooted |
| 20:17.56 | shadow_mil | apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 20:17.58 | Azar | ok now shadow_mil it is imperative you read main points before you upgrade to etch, some things will change, some packages might be removed, so you MUST read this |
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| 20:18.10 | Azar | http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 20:18.38 | Azar | if you not read it is on your own if you will have an unsuccessful upgrade |
| 20:19.19 | shadow_mil | reading the site might be a bit hard |
| 20:19.27 | Azar | hmm no X ? |
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| 20:19.39 | Azar | ok |
| 20:19.39 | shadow_mil | why do you think I am using irssi |
| 20:19.43 | amphi | shadow_mil: use w3m |
| 20:19.50 | shadow_mil | w3m? |
| 20:19.53 | cydork | shadow_mil: coz it rocks :P |
| 20:20.00 | amphi | shadow_mil: console browser |
| 20:20.02 | Azar | you could use "links" if you installed it |
| 20:20.02 | hark | well, basically install aptitude first and then use it to dist-upgrade |
| 20:20.14 | DemonJester | cydork: I agree! |
| 20:20.33 | amphi | shadow_mil: it spawns an editor for filling in multiline web form fields |
| 20:20.42 | cydork | !pastewithoutx |
| 20:20.44 | Azar | shadow_mil: question number 1: do you have any non-debian packages installed now? |
| 20:20.44 | junix|work | streuner: ??? |
| 20:20.50 | cydork | damn dpkg is still dead. |
| 20:20.51 | shadow_mil | Azar: nope |
| 20:20.56 | shadow_mil | Azar: I blew out my system |
| 20:21.03 | shadow_mil | other then my /home |
| 20:21.22 | Azar | shadow_mil: question # 2 are your /etc/apt/sources.list ok? |
| 20:21.48 | Azar | any pointing at other distro ( / testing ) than / stable? |
| 20:21.52 | shadow_mil | I believe so... I think the packages are old, but I hear thats normal |
| 20:21.58 | shadow_mil | let me check |
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| 20:22.30 | shadow_mil | Azar: they are all porint at stable |
| 20:22.37 | shadow_mil | pointing* |
| 20:22.55 | streuner | junix|work: hm? |
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| 20:23.20 | sid | http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php 168 etch rc bugs |
| 20:23.29 | blinx | hm |
| 20:23.29 | junix|work | streuner: http://pastebin.ca/334409 |
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| 20:23.42 | blinx | why my firefox32 doesn't load the urls |
| 20:23.53 | blinx | and the other normal firefox loads them |
| 20:23.57 | Ronin | whats firefox32 |
| 20:24.03 | blinx | for 64bit |
| 20:24.05 | shadow_mil | Azar: and they are only debian sources |
| 20:24.05 | Azar | shadow_mil: ok edit the file so that ALL sources will show / etch instead of / stable (or / sarge) and all end with : non-free contrib |
| 20:24.13 | blinx | because of amd64 |
| 20:24.16 | blinx | and flash |
| 20:24.22 | blinx | is only on i386 |
| 20:24.22 | Azar | if you got any "cdrom" source , #comment it out |
| 20:24.25 | blinx | java, too |
| 20:24.26 | zinx | blink: that's not a standard debian package |
| 20:24.41 | streuner | junix|work: #dpkg: apache2-common: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request:# apache2-mpm-prefork depends on apache2-common (= 2.0.55-4.2); however:# Package apache2-common is to be removed. |
| 20:24.45 | zinx | and java does amd64 just fine |
| 20:24.50 | streuner | junix|work: you have to fix this |
| 20:25.03 | Azar | shadow_mil: example: deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib |
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| 20:25.13 | streuner | junix|work: so just remove those packages |
| 20:25.17 | junix|work | streuner: ok |
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| 20:25.36 | streuner | apt, unix lessons |
| 20:25.37 | apt | well, unix lessons is (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until ... |
| 20:25.38 | blinx | no one has an actual deb of iceweasel32? |
| 20:25.56 | streuner | junix|work: #9 here... |
| 20:25.57 | Azar | guys which is the most stable kernel for Etch? |
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| 20:26.12 | sid | Azar: the one that ships with etch |
| 20:26.15 | Azar | 2.6.16? |
| 20:26.23 | shadow_mil | Azar: I am sending you a pm |
| 20:26.25 | Azar | sid, right now 2.6.18 is uploaded but not ready |
| 20:26.26 | zinx | blinx: there's no standard debian package for that - if the one you have isn't working, it's because it's broken, and there's not really a whole lot we can do to help you with it since it's unofficial |
| 20:26.29 | streuner | junix|work: the same goes with any apt problem, the first counts |
| 20:26.36 | junix|work | k |
| 20:26.42 | blinx | zinx: but how I can use flash?! |
| 20:26.45 | junix|work | so remove all those packages? |
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| 20:26.59 | zinx | blinx: bitch at adobe until they port it |
| 20:27.06 | blinx | hrm |
| 20:27.07 | blinx | ok |
| 20:27.12 | streuner | junix|work: any packages which is related to *apache* |
| 20:27.16 | junix|work | k |
| 20:27.19 | streuner | s/is/are/ |
| 20:27.22 | libben | flashplayer would work wouldent it? |
| 20:27.25 | junix|work | would i have to force remove it? |
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| 20:27.47 | streuner | junix|work: well, try first apt-get, if that doesn't work use dpkg |
| 20:28.25 | streuner | junix|work: and if those doesn't work you have to manipulate dpkg's db |
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| 20:29.09 | Azar | shadow_mil: aptitude update and aptitude upgrade |
| 20:29.18 | shadow_mil | ok :D |
| 20:29.35 | Azar | shadow_mil: aptitude install aptitude |
| 20:30.18 | Azar | shadow_mil: after that upgrade your kernel again, same way only you need now 2.6.16 |
| 20:30.37 | TbbW | http://xkcd.com/c178.html <- haha :D |
| 20:30.55 | junix|work | streuner: k |
| 20:30.55 | Azar | reboot then now you can run: aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 20:31.44 | shadow_mil | Azar: k |
| 20:31.46 | Azar | streuner is it ok to upgrade the kernel before dist-upgrade to etch? |
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| 20:31.56 | shadow_mil | its still upgrading |
| 20:32.03 | Azar | good |
| 20:32.27 | streuner | Azar: i don't any sense to install a new kernel before |
| 20:32.30 | Azar | well its been six month but I vaguely remember I did upgrade the kernel before going to etch |
| 20:32.31 | shadow_mil | says it will take about 10 min, be right back in like 10-15 |
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| 20:33.14 | shadow_mil | how old is sarge anyways? |
| 20:33.14 | Azar | streuner: back then I was reading some howto prep for etch and I think it was saying is better to have a higher than 2.6.8 kernel when you go to etch |
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| 20:33.25 | Azar | shadow_mil: is younger than win xp |
| 20:33.37 | Azar | one and half year |
| 20:33.42 | streuner | Azar: well, the release notes should know more about... |
| 20:33.46 | shadow_mil | Azar: my grandmom is younger then XP |
| 20:34.12 | shadow_mil | Azar: yeah, one and a half years is a long time in the Linux world |
| 20:34.16 | Azar | streuner: I think was not something official just a quick workaround to some hardware support |
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| 20:34.41 | Azar | shadow_mil: for me an "old" Debian has to be at least four years |
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| 20:35.05 | shadow_mil | Azar: for me, old anything has to be about 6 weeks |
| 20:35.17 | shadow_mil | lol |
| 20:35.29 | Azar | shadow_mil: well get used to Debian or if impatient pick a quickie distro |
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| 20:36.23 | shadow_mil | Azar: Well one thing, I have always thought that that ubuntu packages were fliter down from debian |
| 20:36.43 | Azar | so to summarize: shadow_mil you can do both ways now: 1. upgrade the kernel to 2.6.16 or... go directly aptitude dist-upgrade and upgrade the kernel immediately after. |
| 20:36.44 | shadow_mil | I thought that debian team tested them and all before they get ported to ubuntu |
| 20:37.25 | Azar | shadow_mil: with all respect, ubuntu is a quickie who satisfies the impatient users' needs. if you like it quick stay with ubuntu |
| 20:37.29 | wwallace | im trying to start proftpd but i have the following error can nyon ehlp please? roFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration. |
| 20:37.46 | Azar | shadow_mil: please remember ubuntu is ANOTHER Operating System |
| 20:37.50 | Azar | is not Debian |
| 20:38.09 | streuner | !start a distro war |
| 20:38.10 | shadow_mil | please, ubuntu is aferica for "I don't understand debian" |
| 20:38.17 | streuner | apt, start a distro war |
| 20:38.18 | apt | Mandrake owns! |
| 20:38.19 | giupy | how can put my pc-desktop in standby mode like a notebook, making it like power off and resuming without passing trough the bios ? |
| 20:38.52 | Azar | shadow_mil: I like ubuntu for the fact that satisfied those not satisfied with Debian, and this is a big thing |
| 20:39.03 | shadow_mil | apt, Mandrake is old, its Mandriva now |
| 20:39.04 | apt | ...but mandrake is already something else... |
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| 20:39.07 | shadow_mil | :P |
| 20:39.07 | Azar | this way everyone on Debian is happy |
| 20:39.24 | streuner | apt, literal start a distro war |
| 20:39.26 | apt | "start a distro war" is "<reply> (SuSE|RedHat|Mandrake|Progeny|Slackware|Gentoo|Rock) (rocks|owns|0wnz|r0x0z|is (lame|stupid))!" |
| 20:39.45 | Azar | lemme see that gentoobie thing again, streuner :) |
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| 20:40.12 | wwallace | im trying to start proftpd but i have the following error can nyon ehlp please? roFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration. |
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| 20:40.41 | streuner | apt, start a distro war =~ s/Mandrake/Mandriva/ |
| 20:40.41 | apt | OK, streuner |
| 20:41.02 | Azar | dpkg is on day off? hello apt! |
| 20:41.23 | shadow_mil | Azar: but ubuntu, while I do like it, it just does not seem to be consider, a gaint. ubuntu is more or less for people who don't have a idea how to use Linux |
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| 20:41.49 | asg | Azar: there's also badgers |
| 20:41.49 | shadow_mil | I have been using a mix of redhat, Fedora, DSL, Suse, ubuntu, for years now |
| 20:42.04 | rahul | ~badger asg |
| 20:42.06 | Azar | shadow_mil: I beg to differ, I think ubuntu is a nice distro, no need to snub.. |
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| 20:42.18 | hannes__ | hello |
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| 20:42.24 | dav_ | elo |
| 20:42.32 | hannes__ | is there a pear package for php5 for debian? |
| 20:42.39 | dav_ | i just installed a debian yesterday, but there is something strange |
| 20:42.40 | shadow_mil | Azar: I think ubuntu is a great distro, but I wanna see what else there is |
| 20:42.42 | Azar | shadow_mil: and if you think you really are a leet one, you can do same things with ubuntu like you try learn here |
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| 20:42.58 | streuner | apt, tell hannes__ about search |
| 20:42.59 | dav_ | when i do a nmap 127.0.0.1 it said me i have a smtp server opened |
| 20:43.02 | phud | secret |
| 20:43.02 | hannes__ | i just found a pear package for php4 |
| 20:43.07 | hannes__ | streuner heheh |
| 20:43.08 | dav_ | that is true but i can't find it |
| 20:43.10 | rahul | dav_: uh... |
| 20:43.21 | rahul | dav_: why are you using nmap to see what you have locally running? |
| 20:43.24 | dav_ | even with a ps -auwwx or on inetd or with netstat |
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| 20:43.35 | Azar | ok I am away, I hope now you know what to do shadow_mil |
| 20:43.36 | curt_ | I got lucky, i wanted to try linux and started with Debian, I see no reason to use anything else. |
| 20:43.45 | hannes__ | streuner does it at least exist? |
| 20:43.46 | rahul | dav_: netstat -tuple |
| 20:43.51 | dav_ | rahul, just to be sure of what services are running on it |
| 20:44.00 | rahul | then look at what's RUNNING |
| 20:44.02 | shadow_mil | Azar: cya, thanks for the help |
| 20:44.25 | dav_ | rahul, thank you very much |
| 20:44.26 | dav_ | :) |
| 20:44.37 | dav_ | the name is exim4 |
| 20:44.39 | dav_ | :) |
| 20:44.42 | streuner | hannes__: i can only see via apt-cache search in unstable php4-pear... |
| 20:45.02 | hannes__ | streuner yes, and i do need it for php5 unfortunately |
| 20:45.29 | rahul | dav_: you need an MTA. you might be able to get away with having it not listen on port 25, but as long as it's not listening on an external port 25, you can't get remote connections |
| 20:45.38 | streuner | apt, info pear |
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| 20:46.10 | hannes__ | would there be a conflict if i would use pear from the source, can this be done? |
| 20:46.16 | dav_ | rahul, what is MTA (Mail Transport Agent ? perhaps ?" because i tryied to send a mail with the mail command and it came back to me with error |
| 20:46.20 | rahul | yes |
| 20:46.33 | hannes__ | apt, info php5 |
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| 20:46.37 | dav_ | rahul, but no way to find any logs in /var/log i m not used to debian |
| 20:46.46 | HardDisk_WP | disconnecting...good night |
| 20:46.47 | wwallace | Starting ftp server: proftpd - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'MP3J' error: No address associated with hostname |
| 20:46.50 | wwallace | help please? |
| 20:46.57 | rahul | dav_: consider having your mta use your ISP's mail relay as a smarthost |
| 20:47.00 | rahul | dpkg-reconfigure exim4 |
| 20:47.03 | hannes__ | apt, info pear |
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| 20:47.26 | streuner | apt, info php-pear |
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| 20:47.48 | rahul | perl-orange |
| 20:48.13 | DemonJester | hannes__: what about php-pear? that is for php5 in etch |
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| 20:48.17 | streuner | hannes__: ^^^ |
| 20:48.17 | hannes__ | omgs yes, thats what i'm looking for |
| 20:48.39 | hannes__ | DemonJester ahhhh, the php-pear is for php5 i didn't know. how can i find this out for the future? |
| 20:48.58 | streuner | hannes__: apt-cache show <package> |
| 20:48.59 | shadow_mil | brb |
| 20:49.13 | DemonJester | what he said :) |
| 20:49.28 | hannes__ | yes, cool, thank you all very much |
| 20:49.33 | dav_ | rahul: thks very much for your help |
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| 20:50.32 | hannes__ | but now i would need pear-log and this is just for php4 |
| 20:50.37 | hannes__ | ;-( |
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| 20:51.02 | rahul | dav_: np |
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| 20:51.55 | streuner | hannes__: did you read the factoid yet? |
| 20:52.25 | DemonJester | hannes__: you mean php-log? |
| 20:52.26 | hannes__ | streuner factoid? no, what is it? |
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| 20:52.49 | hannes__ | DemonJester no, it is this Pear::Log needs to be installed for egroupware |
| 20:52.52 | streuner | apt, factoid |
| 20:53.03 | hannes__ | apt, factoid |
| 20:53.09 | streuner | badger, factoid |
| 20:53.17 | jelly-home | !factoid |
| 20:53.35 | streuner | well, it exists in 'dpkg' |
| 20:54.00 | hannes__ | streuner what? and how can i find it? |
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| 20:54.14 | jelly-home | !test |
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| 20:54.33 | streuner | hannes__: /msg (message) dpkg, apt (bot) foo (factoid) |
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| 20:54.59 | streuner | hannes__: in this case i told apt to tell you about search (factoid) |
| 20:55.04 | jelly-home | ... when dpkg works. |
| 20:55.12 | streuner | apt> told hannes__ about search (i guess search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg apt find <thing> if you're already here.) |
| 20:55.13 | apt | streuner: that's too long |
| 20:55.25 | asg | %botsnack |
| 20:55.25 | badgers | asg: aw, gee |
| 20:55.35 | asg | streuner: badgers should be more up to date |
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| 20:56.42 | jelly-home | <burek-baja> factoid might be something resembling a fact or unverified (often invented) information that is given credibility because it appeared in print or a brief (usually one sentence and usually trivial) news item, or often-repeated info, stored to keep people from having to repeatedly explain something This thing you're reading right now is called a "factoid". |
| 20:56.43 | streuner | asg: no idea, look at this http://dpkg.vireo.org/factoid.php?key=factoid |
| 20:56.56 | streuner | asg: strange |
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| 20:57.07 | metaperl | I chose ftp.debian.org and it is taking forever to download... how can I abort this and choose a different place to d/l things? |
| 20:57.39 | ofer0 | metaperl, etch? |
| 20:57.49 | asg | streuner: hmmm, dunno |
| 20:57.55 | metaperl | ofer0 - yes Debian/testing |
| 20:58.11 | streuner | asg: both bots should 'factoid' in there db |
| 20:58.19 | streuner | have* |
| 20:58.39 | ofer0 | metaperl, use netselect-apt |
| 20:58.42 | pinks | how do I force a 2nd hdd to mount when it is brand new and unformatted? |
| 20:59.00 | ofer0 | pinks, force? |
| 20:59.05 | jelly-home | pinks: you'll have to partition and format it. |
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| 20:59.26 | ofer0 | pinks, mk2efs |
| 20:59.30 | ofer0 | mke2fs* |
| 20:59.30 | streuner | asg: well, at least that's funny:Creation Date Wed Dec 31 18:00:00 CST 1969 ;-) |
| 20:59.35 | pinks | how can I format it if it isn't mounted? |
| 20:59.45 | asg | streuner: :) |
| 20:59.46 | ofer0 | pinks, man mke2fs |
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| 21:00.04 | pinks | ofer0: ta ... |
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| 21:00.44 | DnD | HI |
| 21:00.53 | ofer0 | DnD, HELLO. |
| 21:00.56 | DnD | got some question : i need to install a .deb package |
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| 21:01.05 | ofer0 | DnD, dpkg -i blah.deb |
| 21:01.12 | DnD | thnx |
| 21:01.18 | ofer0 | DnD, you're welcome |
| 21:01.38 | pinks | ofer0: I want part of this HDD as NTFS -- so I need to partition frist -- no? |
| 21:01.45 | ofer0 | pinks, use gparted. |
| 21:02.01 | ofer0 | pinks, it may be easier for you :) |
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| 21:02.34 | pinks | ofer0: gparted isn't on my system.... |
| 21:02.39 | ofer0 | pinks, install it. |
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| 21:02.52 | pinks | no -- I'm all out of space - hence the new hdd |
| 21:02.59 | dav_ | is swap needed in debian installation becaus ei have defined a swap partition of 1go but doesn't appear on mount |
| 21:03.01 | RvGaTe | In debian Etch, what are CTRL+ALT+F8 to F12 normally used for ? |
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| 21:03.22 | krazykit | dav_, highly recommended. you can add it to your fstab if it isn't already in there |
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| 21:04.03 | pinks | what's the standard partition tool in Sarge? |
| 21:04.15 | streuner | cfdisk |
| 21:04.26 | dav_ | krazykit, 1 go is enough ? |
| 21:04.29 | libben | do i need to restart/reload anything when i change something in samba? |
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| 21:04.42 | xand | libben: /etc/init.d/samba restart |
| 21:05.14 | krazykit | dav_, dunno how much physical memory you have, but most likely yes, it's plenty |
| 21:05.19 | RvGaTe | libben, thats a yes :P |
| 21:05.34 | dav_ | krazykit, ok thks |
| 21:05.42 | streuner | asg: german justice looking for some CIA agents |
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| 21:06.22 | streuner | asg: they think, they live in NC ;-) |
| 21:06.47 | asg | streuner: I'm not a CIA agent though ;) |
| 21:06.48 | dav_ | rahul, i have tried to configure exim4 what i have done ok aparently, but now i have sent an email in exim log it is said completed after relaying with mysmtp isp but i don't receive anything on my account |
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| 21:07.22 | streuner | asg: well, maybe a neighbor :-) |
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| 21:07.40 | rahul | dav_: hmm dunno |
| 21:07.46 | asg | streuner: possible, the guy that married mrs. asg and I used to work for the CIA |
| 21:08.07 | dav_ | rahul: do i need to make my exim server seen out of the firewall ? |
| 21:08.08 | rahul | dav_: that's strange. |
| 21:08.17 | libben | if i wanna be able to share something with samba.. i just change user to share in smb.conf? |
| 21:08.22 | rahul | dav_: no, you should be using pop or imap to access your mailbox from the isp |
| 21:08.39 | pinks | ok -- I've done the cfdisk thing - now what do I do to get the filesystems in place for a bootable Debian in one aprtition and ntfs in the other? |
| 21:09.04 | dav_ | rahul: i hvae a unix shell on rootshell and i tried to send on my account the log said thatt the mail is completed but nothing append in my console |
| 21:09.26 | streuner | hell, playing with partitions isn't a good thing, without knowing what to do :-) |
| 21:09.36 | rahul | dav_: do they give you a mailbox there? |
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| 21:09.49 | dav_ | rahul: yes |
| 21:09.55 | rahul | strange... |
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| 21:10.15 | dav_ | rahul: is it possible that my isp doesn't accept to transport mail coming from a mail server |
| 21:10.15 | rahul | I don't know what to say, really... maybe put the relevant log lines in a pastebin? |
| 21:10.23 | rahul | it wouldn't know |
| 21:10.33 | rahul | it's connecting using the same protocol anything else would connect to it with |
| 21:10.47 | streuner | pinks: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/ |
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| 21:11.12 | pinks | streuner: ta.... |
| 21:11.17 | dav_ | rahul, ho no |
| 21:11.22 | dav_ | rahul, realy slow but it works |
| 21:11.25 | dav_ | rahul, :) |
| 21:11.27 | rahul | heh |
| 21:11.32 | rahul | such is life. |
| 21:11.37 | dav_ | rahul, thks anyway |
| 21:11.51 | rahul | np |
| 21:13.04 | dav_ | rahul, just to know how to manage service that are running on boot with debian ? |
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| 21:15.10 | rahul | dav_: update-rc.d |
| 21:15.23 | rahul | dav_: or just uninstall them if you don't want them |
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| 21:16.43 | dav_ | rahul, tes by example to remove portmap on startup update-rc.d portmap remove |
| 21:17.36 | streuner | asg: heh |
| 21:18.07 | rahul | dav_: you should just remove it if you don't need it |
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| 21:20.08 | mu36s321k | hi channel |
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| 21:22.10 | MjolnirHoT | Is there an mplayer for Debian, will it play x-mplayer2 format and, if so, where can I get it? |
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| 21:22.47 | ofer0 | MjolnirHoT, mplayer-686 |
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| 21:23.06 | MjolnirHoT | and if it won't play x-mplayer2, what will and where do I get that? |
| 21:23.29 | Eulex | MjolnirHoT, for sarge? |
| 21:23.41 | MjolnirHoT | yes...3.1 |
| 21:23.46 | Eulex | !marillat |
| 21:24.06 | Eulex | apt, marillat |
| 21:24.07 | apt | [marillat] an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
| 21:24.20 | MjolnirHoT | okay..I will try...thanks |
| 21:24.24 | Eulex | hmm, that isn't up to date |
| 21:24.42 | Eulex | the correct link is debian-multimedia.org |
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| 21:25.38 | wes__ | how do i get sshd to start pon boot? |
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| 21:25.57 | sepski | wes__, install it, it's the default |
| 21:26.04 | wes__ | ah |
| 21:26.10 | wes__ | then how do I change it so it doesn't? |
| 21:26.19 | mu36s321k | hi can someone help a newbie ? |
| 21:26.51 | mu36s321k | need to install irda what packages do i need ???? |
| 21:26.58 | sepski | wes__, edit the boot symlinks or use a tool to edit them, eg like update-rc.d |
| 21:28.07 | norc | where is the config file for my kernel located? |
| 21:28.36 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.51 | norc | thanks streuner |
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| 21:29.07 | streuner | norc: why? |
| 21:29.35 | norc | streuner: because im going to use a newer kernel.. |
| 21:29.48 | streuner | norc: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 21:29.57 | norc | ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-8 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 21:30.43 | DemonJester | mu36s321k:I believe you are looking for irda-utils |
| 21:31.21 | libben | i want to be able to share my folder with samba... http://rafb.net/p/j1oUWw52.html this is my smb.conf eth0 is the card that is connected for sharing.... what is wrong.. when im on xbox it tells me... no workgroup found |
| 21:31.24 | norc | streuner: the problem is that im experiencing a problem noone has been able to explain or solve for some reasons |
| 21:31.31 | norc | and I assume that changing the kernel might help |
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| 21:32.37 | Rug | Is there anyway to change the default term that opens on Konq from konsole to xterm? |
| 21:32.42 | dusty_ | Hey guys, i'm trying to run a command: update-rc.d iptables default <-- but it doesn't seem to work, what am I doing wrong? |
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| 21:33.06 | streuner | norc: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en |
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| 21:34.04 | sepski | dusty_, check that your /etc/init.d/iptables script is present and working |
| 21:34.15 | dusty_ | it is |
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| 21:34.36 | sepski | and the error it gives is ? |
| 21:34.36 | dusty_ | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2080 2007-01-31 21:26 /etc/init.d/iptables |
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| 21:34.47 | dusty_ | It just returns the command syntax, as if I got it wrong.. |
| 21:34.49 | dusty_ | lemme pastebin. |
| 21:35.28 | lepine_h | greetings all, i just got a machine formatted at the planet with debian stable ... i've never used debian, would someone have a collection of links on how to get acquainted ... especially with APT |
| 21:35.47 | dusty_ | http://rafb.net/p/JB1nGe17.html |
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| 21:36.09 | karsten | Is there a way to cache known good certs for fetchmail to avoid it puking about untrusted certs? Msg: fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: unable to get local issuer |
| 21:36.11 | dusty_ | lepine_h, man apt-get also apt-get.org iirc and google has LOADS of tutorials/howtos on debian. |
| 21:36.14 | karsten | certificate |
| 21:36.23 | Anarka | lepine_h http://anarka.org/linux/debian_pkgmanager.php see if it helps :) |
| 21:36.45 | sepski | dusty_, defaults (+s) |
| 21:36.50 | lepine_h | thanks! |
| 21:36.54 | dusty_ | doh |
| 21:36.54 | ctp | hi folks. how to list all files a .deb file will install? |
| 21:36.57 | sepski | dusty_, iow you did get it wrong :) |
| 21:37.27 | dusty_ | i've been sat there looking at that for ages! |
| 21:37.27 | dusty_ | lol |
| 21:37.29 | dusty_ | :| |
| 21:37.31 | dusty_ | thanks |
| 21:37.38 | karsten | ctp: dpkg -L <packagefile> I think.' |
| 21:37.48 | ctp | karsten: thx |
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| 21:38.30 | sepski | dusty_, no problem, know the feeling :) |
| 21:38.37 | Anarka | -L is only for installed packages... i think |
| 21:38.47 | karsten | ctp: That's not quite right. You can view the deb interactively in mc. |
| 21:38.49 | dusty_ | hehe ;) |
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| 21:38.50 | Anarka | dpkg -c fjkgf.deb shows the contents of the deb |
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| 21:39.53 | garotosopa | is it usual that ACPI leads to total crash after some hours of normal usage? or it usually crashes during boot/shutdown? |
| 21:39.59 | karsten | !win Anarka |
| 21:40.11 | karsten | garotosopa: Unfortunately, yes. |
| 21:40.39 | karsten | %acpi |
| 21:40.40 | badgers | it has been said that acpi is Advanced Configuration and Power Interface -- a power management interface that gives more control to the BIOS, or horribly horribly broken. for suspend software check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/ , or "run this arbitrary code in ring 0", or http://acpi.sf.net/ |
| 21:40.57 | h3sp4wn | garotosopa: newer kernels are often better if you have very new hardware |
| 21:41.03 | karsten | garotosopa: ISTR that it gets better on newer kernels. |
| 21:41.16 | ctp | karsten: i didnt mean the .deb structure, but the files it installs into the file system. what you mean is to 'ar -x foo.deb' with mc? |
| 21:41.46 | karsten | ctp: No, you can read the internal CONTENTS file. |
| 21:41.59 | ctp | karsten: ah, ok. thx |
| 21:42.14 | dusty_ | sepski, to remove it i just add remove right? |
| 21:42.24 | dusty_ | update-rc.d iptables defaults remove |
| 21:42.25 | karsten | ctp: Um. Sorta. |
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| 21:42.36 | dusty_ | some reason that aint working either |
| 21:42.39 | dusty_ | damn this aint my night :| |
| 21:42.42 | karsten | ctp: Anarka's answer is much better than mine. |
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| 21:43.10 | garotosopa | actually I'm on 2.6.18 and my computer was totally crashing (not user land) for days. I disabled acpi and could experience more than 12 hours ok. enabled it again and it crashed after about 4 hours. does it make sense or it was just coincidence? |
| 21:43.14 | mu36s321k | can someone tell me packages i need to use infra red port ? (im newbie) to linux |
| 21:43.36 | ctp | karsten: i see i have to read more dpkg man pages ;-) |
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| 21:43.42 | karsten | mu36s321k: apt-cache search irda |
| 21:43.45 | dusty_ | nm |
| 21:43.45 | DemonJester | mu36s321k:I believe you are looking for irda-utils |
| 21:43.48 | dusty_ | fixed it ;) |
| 21:43.54 | karsten | mu36s321k: irda module and IIRC irda-tools or similar. |
| 21:44.08 | mu36s321k | cool that you ... |
| 21:44.12 | DemonJester | depends if it is sarge or etch |
| 21:44.15 | karsten | ctp: dpkg isn't quite like RPM in that you can tell it to act on a file _or_ the packagename. |
| 21:44.19 | mu36s321k | me ? |
| 21:44.27 | DemonJester | ^^yes |
| 21:44.30 | mu36s321k | etch i believe |
| 21:44.41 | DemonJester | irda-utils is what you need |
| 21:44.47 | karsten | mu36s321k: irda-utils |
| 21:44.53 | mu36s321k | cool ... |
| 21:45.47 | ctp | karsten: i'm switching some boxes from openbsd to debian, so no experiences with ugly rpms ;-) |
| 21:45.47 | mu36s321k | is there any sites you could point some to thats a total beginner as far as *nix / debain is comcerned ????? |
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| 21:46.26 | sepski | !reference |
| 21:46.30 | mu36s321k | just to do basic things |
| 21:46.38 | cydork | %reference |
| 21:46.39 | badgers | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/#contents . Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install it too, the packagename is "debian-reference", 'apt-get install ... |
| 21:46.59 | mu36s321k | ty ... |
| 21:47.25 | karsten | ctp: Emerge from darkness! |
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| 21:48.00 | ctp | karsten: we have to switch some of the boxes cause of RoR development |
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| 21:48.09 | karsten | RoR? |
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| 21:48.52 | ctp | karsten: ruby on rails |
| 21:48.52 | karsten | Ah. |
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| 21:48.53 | utab | I know that this is not a "vim" channel but I will ask : when I put "set paste" in vimrc then "cindent" is not active anymore. why is this so?? |
| 21:49.12 | karsten | utab: paste disables indent rules. |
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| 21:49.31 | karsten | utab: My workaround: r ! cat |
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| 21:49.47 | karsten | utab: ... followed by xpaste, followed by ^D. |
| 21:50.06 | karsten | utab: ... pastes w/o vim trying to do anything smart, and w/o having to unset paste options. |
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| 21:50.27 | utab | karsten : hmmm |
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| 21:51.31 | Frozen_ | Heya, Im looking for a lil' tool to listen on a port and forward all traffic on this port to another WAN IP on a different port |
| 21:51.36 | Frozen_ | so to a static ip/port |
| 21:51.43 | Frozen_ | in that way not a usual proxy |
| 21:51.54 | utab | karsten: what is r ! cat for |
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| 21:52.05 | Frozen_ | any ideas? |
| 21:52.21 | wwallace | no |
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| 21:52.54 | alephant | Hi all |
| 21:53.01 | alephant | added disks and broke md RAID |
| 21:53.07 | karsten | utab: 'r' == read into current buffer. '!' == shell command. 'cat' == command you're going to run. |
| 21:53.22 | alephant | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.26 | utab | karsten : I see now |
| 21:53.31 | karsten | utab: So, from edit mode: <esc>:r!cat <paste buffer>^D<enter> |
| 21:53.32 | alephant | now /boot is md1 and / is md2... |
| 21:53.36 | alephant | so fstab is broken |
| 21:53.51 | karsten | wire. |
| 21:53.56 | alephant | thanks |
| 21:54.14 | alephant | Seriously though, any clues how to remedy this? |
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| 21:55.02 | utab | karsten:tx |
| 21:55.08 | karsten | utab: NP |
| 21:55.28 | dav_ | i d like to know if now that i have installed Debian it is possible to install Windows because i ask my self what to do when the grub mdr will be deleted , will it be possibleto take a live CD like Knoppix to setup a good grub with the two boot option Linux and Win ? |
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| 21:56.13 | karsten | dav_: You'll probably have to reinstall GRUB after doing Windows. Not a biggie. Helps to have a Knoppix disk around. |
| 21:56.44 | karsten | dav_: ... generally you install Windows first, then Linux. Win98 and earleir in particular don't paly well when there are existing OSs on disk. |
| 21:56.48 | lindenle | Hi I am having a kernel dump with my nvidia card...I know it is a proprietery drier but is there an IRC channel or something to discuss this problem? |
| 21:56.55 | karsten | !nvidia |
| 21:56.59 | karsten | %nvidia |
| 21:56.59 | dav_ | karsten, but my new mbr will work even if it is a Debian on the box |
| 21:56.59 | badgers | For a guide to NVIDIA graphics cards drivers, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder if you've done it before. DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer (ask me about <nvidia-installer>). |
| 21:57.13 | karsten | dav_: Yes. |
| 21:57.23 | karsten | dav_: See the Dual Boot HOWTO. |
| 21:57.25 | dav_ | karsten, ok thanks for your infos |
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| 21:58.17 | seb__ | hi everybody |
| 21:58.48 | seb__ | i have a server which don't give any respond at http://84.4.179.37/ ? do you access it ? |
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| 21:59.34 | limpio | oKtosiTe, the numlock light stays on in my kbd after shutdown, i can turn it off by pressing the numlock key, the shut down is done manually, can it be done to shutdown automatically? |
| 22:00.02 | lindenle | badgers: I know how to install it...it works for a while then core dumps the kernel. |
| 22:00.03 | badgers | You are moron #1, lindenle |
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| 22:00.29 | limpio | sorry oKtosite, my mistake with auto complete |
| 22:00.30 | karsten | lindenle: badgers is a bot |
| 22:00.32 | cydork | hehe |
| 22:00.36 | lindenle | badgers: Oh ok |
| 22:00.36 | badgers | lindenle: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 22:00.43 | lindenle | makes sense |
| 22:00.47 | Joachim | Evening |
| 22:00.54 | lindenle | !query badgers |
| 22:00.57 | cydork | badbugs: shudda up |
| 22:01.08 | Joachim | Is there some debian package which manages auto updates of debian |
| 22:01.17 | karsten | Joachim: cron-apt |
| 22:01.29 | Joachim | thanks karsten |
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| 22:01.37 | karsten | Joachim: Be careful what you ask for. |
| 22:01.52 | Joachim | does this brake debian often ? |
| 22:02.05 | LabThug | is dpkg down, it doesn't seem to be answering PMs |
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| 22:02.19 | karsten | Joachim: Only when used as directed. |
| 22:02.30 | karsten | LabThug: We know. Use badgers. Attention string '%' |
| 22:02.33 | cydork | LabThug: yep use badgers or apt |
| 22:02.43 | Joachim | In huh |
| 22:02.47 | LabThug | thanky thanky |
| 22:03.05 | karsten | What's apt's attention string? |
| 22:03.08 | Joachim | karsten: what is this supposed to mean ? |
| 22:03.15 | karsten | ofer0: |
| 22:03.16 | justin | karsten: ~ ? |
| 22:03.28 | karsten | Joachim: Be careful what you ask for. |
| 22:03.41 | karsten | Joachim: Unattended updates are inherently dangerous. |
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| 22:04.07 | justin | !+apticron |
| 22:04.09 | justin | apticron good |
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| 22:04.51 | smacnay | is there a correct Debian way to use latex packages not in the Debian repository? |
| 22:05.04 | karsten | smacnay: Yes. |
| 22:05.07 | karsten | smacnay: Correctly. |
| 22:05.28 | karsten | smacnay: Remember: *you* own /usr/local/. Use as you wish. |
| 22:05.34 | qwehnce | gentoo user trying etch, how do i obtain the latest kernel without have to configure it? |
| 22:05.36 | Greyscale | Any postfix people here? |
| 22:05.39 | cydork | apticron or cron-apt is good to just download the required debs to upgrade but can cause trouble if used for unattended upgrade. |
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| 22:06.09 | cydork | qwehnce: which kernel do you have now? |
| 22:06.11 | chops | smacnay: I've found GNU stow to work well for ad hoc "package management" outside of dpkg |
| 22:06.17 | karsten | Greyscale: No. They're fixing the post. |
| 22:06.22 | karsten | Greyscale: Just ask. |
| 22:06.23 | Greyscale | heh |
| 22:06.24 | qwehnce | 2.6.8-3 |
| 22:06.31 | smacnay | karsten: thanks - I was wondering if there was some Debian-specific process to add components. |
| 22:06.32 | qwehnce | cydork, 2.6.8-3 |
| 22:06.34 | smacnay | chops: thanks |
| 22:06.46 | qwehnce | cydork, just performed a net install |
| 22:06.47 | h3sp4wn | there is no debian kernels for <2.6.18 |
| 22:06.49 | cydork | qwehnce: you sure it's etch?? |
| 22:06.55 | karsten | smacnay: You could always package them yourself, should be pretty basic. |
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| 22:07.05 | cydork | h3sp4wn: nope. not yet! |
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| 22:07.49 | cydork | qwehnce: run dpkg -l libc6 |tail -1 |
| 22:07.50 | qwehnce | cydork, performed a net install with sarge, changed source.list to etch, upgraded. |
| 22:08.14 | dav_ | hum, i need the kernel-headers to use vmware |
| 22:08.22 | dav_ | but i cn't find them for my kernel |
| 22:08.23 | h3sp4wn | cydork: Its not overly important really important to me other than the apic / acpi stuff for this (too new) board is getting better with the newer ones |
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| 22:08.41 | dav_ | Linux debian 2.6.18-3-486 #1 |
| 22:08.43 | Greyscale | karsten, I got help now :) |
| 22:08.45 | dav_ | what should i take ? |
| 22:08.50 | cydork | qwehnce: oh ok, then install linux-image-686/486 |
| 22:08.55 | qwehnce | cydork, 2.3.2 ie not 2.4 |
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| 22:10.37 | qwehnce | cydork, and after it completes and warns me of removing the kernel i am currently using? |
| 22:11.14 | junix|work | is there a propsed relase for 4.0? |
| 22:11.17 | cydork | qwehnce: ahh install linux-image-2.6.18-3-686/486 then. |
| 22:11.22 | junix|work | a timeframe maybe? |
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| 22:12.23 | helloyo | i am running debian amd64 and trying to setup skype, but i cannot run "skype" from the untarred folder i downloaded for no apparent reason |
| 22:12.37 | Greyscale | Where is the cyrus-sasl package? |
| 22:12.38 | cydork | %skype |
| 22:12.39 | badgers | skype is probably a non-free (beer) voip application that is cross platform. See http://www.skype.com/, or based on proprietary, closed-source protocols, or debs for skype are available with and without a static qt library from http://debian-unofficial.org, or for official debs, add "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free" to sources.list. |
| 22:13.06 | cydork | helloyo: ^^ the last one |
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| 22:13.29 | helloyo | cydork: thanks, i did find that, but it doesn't seem to be up, or at least not work with amd64 |
| 22:13.48 | helo | how do i install flash 9? |
| 22:14.00 | cydork | helloyo: ahh dont know about amd64 :P |
| 22:14.08 | Far^Side | does anyone know how did the Iceweasel about artwork/logo wich is kinda Web 2.0? I really just wondered how the artist made the reflection, and what program(s) he used |
| 22:14.13 | helo | following the install instructions didn't do it... still using libflashplayer.so v 7 |
| 22:14.28 | helloyo | cydork: haha, no problem, thanks anyway |
| 22:14.33 | h3sp4wn | helo: remove flashplugin-nonfree (if installed) - put it in |
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| 22:14.41 | helloyo | can anyone help me setup SKYPE on AMD64? |
| 22:14.42 | h3sp4wn | helo: ~/mozilla/plugins |
| 22:15.46 | dav_ | how to install gcc on debian becaus ei don't know why it hasn't been installed by default |
| 22:15.56 | chops | helloyo: You might also try running it in a 32bit chroot |
| 22:16.21 | helloyo | chops: i haven't looked into that, but have heard its a hassle to setup? |
| 22:16.30 | chops | It is :-( |
| 22:16.51 | helloyo | chops: dang... |
| 22:17.31 | norc | Is there a way to remove udev without removing all packages that depend on it (that I can manually install another udev package) |
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| 22:18.38 | Xenguy | dav_: just install gcc IIRC |
| 22:18.45 | rahul | why would anything depend on udev? |
| 22:19.01 | dav_ | Xenguy, how |
| 22:19.15 | norc | rahul: well, what about hal, initramfs-tools, the kernel images.. |
| 22:19.17 | norc | etc.. |
| 22:19.19 | Xenguy | dav_: be root, then: apt-get install gcc |
| 22:19.20 | zaphands | Hello. I'm trying to install a wacom tablet on my pc. When X loads it says the following: (EE) No Input driver matching `wacom' does anyone know how to solve this? |
| 22:19.37 | dav_ | Xenguy, it doesn't work |
| 22:19.48 | Xenguy | dav_: define doesn't work |
| 22:19.52 | rahul | norc: that makes no sense... |
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| 22:20.13 | dav_ | Xenguy, it seems to need several dependencies and under dependencies |
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| 22:20.17 | rahul | or maybe it does, since they're debian-speicifc things |
| 22:20.27 | rahul | they're built to use udev. |
| 22:20.29 | Xenguy | !info gcc |
| 22:20.38 | Xenguy | bah |
| 22:20.45 | norc | asterix norc # apt-get remove udev [...] The following packages will be REMOVED: hal initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-486 linux-image-2.6-686 linux-image-2.6.18-3-486 linux-image-2.6.18-3-686 [...] |
| 22:20.48 | sparr | where can i find a program that can take data like (a-b, a-c, b-c, c-a) and turn it into a picture like this: http://www.utm.edu/departments/math/graph/gifs/drgrph3.gif |
| 22:20.50 | norc | And I dont want them to be removed |
| 22:20.55 | norc | ^- rahul |
| 22:21.20 | rahul | norc: so don't remove udev |
| 22:21.28 | rahul | norc: if you want a different version, install that |
| 22:21.38 | Xenguy | dav_: I dunno - dependencies should automagically be resolved as usual |
| 22:21.41 | vulture | sparr: 'dot' |
| 22:21.58 | g333k_work | what are the files inside /etc/X11/Xsession.d for? |
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| 22:22.23 | sparr | vulture: thanks |
| 22:22.32 | norc | rahul: how do I install udev-069 then? :/ |
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| 22:23.39 | kaffien | i cannot seem to install libical properly |
| 22:23.45 | norc | rahul: because I dont think its in the repos anywhere.. |
| 22:23.50 | h3sp4wn | norc: are you using the above on sarge ? |
| 22:24.08 | kaffien | scalix still says that libical .24 is not installed yet i built it from scratch installed it and verified the library locations |
| 22:24.15 | norc | h3sp4wn: etch |
| 22:24.21 | eleckttruss | who use kde with beryl= |
| 22:24.22 | eleckttruss | ?= |
| 22:24.50 | h3sp4wn | norc: Why such an old version of udev you need ? |
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| 22:25.24 | lontra | anyone in here had success using oo.org 2.1 from experimental? |
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| 22:25.51 | norc | h3sp4wn: Because I have good reason to believe that any newer version fscks up with the device node for my dvd drive |
| 22:26.00 | zamaliphe | !nvidia |
| 22:26.28 | h3sp4wn | norc: check snapshot.debian.net there was one point where any lower version will not work though (around 2.6.16 or so maybe) |
| 22:26.54 | h3sp4wn | norc: Does it work right with a static /dev ? |
| 22:26.56 | abrotman | norc: more than likely it won't help to use an older version |
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| 22:27.07 | abrotman | dpkg!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:27.16 | pinks | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.23 | rahul | !!! |
| 22:27.23 | norc | abrotman: Im just trying to reproduce a solution for a problem nobody could help me so far |
| 22:27.37 | abrotman | udev rules don't help ? |
| 22:27.59 | norc | abrotman: since I dont know whats wrong I cant say |
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| 22:28.12 | norc | abrotman: I dont know where or what causes the problem :/ |
| 22:28.28 | zamaliphe | dpkg is out !!!!!! |
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| 22:29.02 | stoned | zamaliphe: yeh, dpkg was released from its botty prison |
| 22:29.19 | stoned | how dpkg roams the lands free looking for packages to install etc. |
| 22:29.42 | stoned | !dpkgbot |
| 22:29.45 | stoned | er.. |
| 22:29.46 | stoned | haha |
| 22:29.48 | norc | 23:26 < h3sp4wn> norc: check snapshot.debian.net there was one point where any lower version will not work though (around 2.6.16 or so maybe) |
| 22:29.50 | stoned | dpkg.vireo.org |
| 22:29.52 | norc | thanks btw. |
| 22:29.58 | stoned | for factoids when bot is not available |
| 22:30.01 | stoned | there are backup bots here too |
| 22:30.05 | stoned | apt: hi |
| 22:30.20 | apt | hello, stoned |
| 22:30.20 | stoned | badgers: hi |
| 22:30.20 | badgers | bonjour |
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| 22:30.23 | cydork | yay |
| 22:30.26 | cydork | !wb |
| 22:30.31 | dpkg | thanks, cydork. It's good to be back. |
| 22:30.31 | stoned | different trigger |
| 22:30.38 | stoned | s |
| 22:30.52 | dav_ | for gcc uninstalled: |
| 22:30.57 | dav_ | aptitude install build-essencial |
| 22:30.59 | dav_ | and |
| 22:31.02 | dav_ | apt-get install gcc |
| 22:31.06 | dav_ | and it worked |
| 22:31.16 | stoned | sicne I need these things anyway |
| 22:31.24 | stoned | I just install module-assistant and let it prepare |
| 22:31.34 | dav_ | i have a FUCKING problem :) |
| 22:31.35 | stoned | it gets build essential, plus kernel sources, and whatever else |
| 22:31.40 | stoned | sometimes |
| 22:31.55 | dav_ | whn i browse the web with mozilla , nw when i click on a link nothing append |
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| 22:32.49 | lepine_h | nmap localhost gives tell me that auth (identd) is running ... update-inetd --disable auth doesnt seem to fail |
| 22:33.04 | lepine_h | but another portmap tells me it's still running |
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| 22:33.26 | lepine_h | the man page says that disabling services will kill the process, is that activated by default? |
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| 22:35.11 | lepine_h | never mind, the process kill was an invention on my part ... killing and restarting inetd manually did the trick |
| 22:35.26 | stoned | fabrication/invention |
| 22:35.28 | stoned | heh :) |
| 22:35.30 | BullWeivel | im use to doing cat filename | mail email@whatever.com what is the name of the package for mail ?? I can't find it when i apt-cache search ??? |
| 22:35.54 | lepine_h | stoned, indeed, fabrication does sound better :) |
| 22:36.20 | stoned | lepine_h: yup, 65nm fabrication process.. quit it |
| 22:36.22 | stoned | lol |
| 22:36.33 | abrotman | BullWeivel: all the SMTP servers should provide that for you |
| 22:37.03 | BullWeivel | abrotman: well i use to use that mail command... im running postfix. so im not sure where the mail command comes from. |
| 22:37.10 | lepine_h | grrr |
| 22:37.18 | BullWeivel | i know its a program, but dont see it installed after installing postfix |
| 22:37.26 | xand | mailx? |
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| 22:38.05 | lepine_h | how can i tell at which run levels such and such service will run? |
| 22:38.24 | lepine_h | reading the update-rc.d man page ... seems to only take care of linking and unlinking |
| 22:38.40 | BullWeivel | interesting...they are calling it nail instead of mail. |
| 22:39.22 | Irrumator | lepine_h: read it closely - it explains exactly what you asked. |
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| 22:39.53 | h3sp4wn | lepine_h: maybe try sysv-rc-conf (easy to look at it then or just ls /etc/rc[0-6].d |
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| 22:40.53 | Thug-N-Me | is there any gui php html editor ? |
| 22:41.21 | lepine_h | Thug-N-Me: zend studio, eclipse, macromedia dreamweaver ... |
| 22:41.42 | lepine_h | pico can work as well (regex syntax highlighting) |
| 22:41.45 | Thug-N-Me | lepine_h dreamweaver on debian? without wine ? |
| 22:41.50 | abrotman | BullWeivel: dpkg -S |
| 22:42.03 | lepine_h | zend studio then, runs on java |
| 22:42.10 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: bluefish |
| 22:42.19 | alephant | Anybody able to help with this LVM problem? |
| 22:42.24 | alephant | I have a missing PV |
| 22:42.38 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman thanks |
| 22:42.40 | alephant | how can I remove the LVs that use that PV so that I can activate the rest of the LVs in the VG? |
| 22:43.09 | abrotman | HS |
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| 22:46.44 | compDo | When I try to change the size of the core dump with "ulimit -c 1024" I get the error message "-bash: ulimit: core file size: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted". Any ideas what's wrong? |
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| 22:47.14 | stoned | omg! |
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| 22:47.33 | stoned | I bought a stick of 512 ddr2-800mhz ram.. I just got to 500FSB on a E6300 cpu!!! |
| 22:47.35 | stoned | 3500Mhz |
| 22:47.45 | stoned | thats like a 90% overclock! |
| 22:47.56 | lunaphyte | why would /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.15-1-686.postrm return exit 0 but dpkg -P linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 says "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 128? |
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| 22:49.32 | zamaliphe | W: GPG error: http://ftp2.de.debian.org etch Release: Unknown error executing gpgv |
| 22:49.35 | dondelelcaro | lunaphyte: because you're not calling the postrm with the proper options |
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| 22:50.06 | norc | wow, dpkg even warns me if I try to remove my current kernel |
| 22:50.22 | zamaliphe | gpgv: keyblock resource `/root/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': general error |
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| 22:50.29 | karsten | dondelelcaro: dpkg is back, yays! |
| 22:50.37 | stoned | dondelelcaro: the backup bots are not synced with dpkg. I don't know who to tell this to.. you're around so I'm telling you. |
| 22:50.52 | stoned | dondelelcaro: do you know the botmasters? |
| 22:51.04 | jelly-home | !test |
| 22:51.04 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 22:51.05 | zamaliphe | how to fix that ? |
| 22:51.07 | jelly-home | ooh |
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| 22:51.31 | h3sp4wn | lunaphyte: I would say its a bug in kernel-package (happens for me if I build an image with -rc? anywhere in the name - but only then) |
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| 22:52.16 | norc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.18 | norc | mhmm.. |
| 22:52.22 | norc | what does depend on what |
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| 22:53.00 | lunaphyte | dondelelcaro: how can i determine what options it needs to be passed? |
| 22:53.46 | garo | iptables/netfilter question: Do packets from localhost to localhost pass trough PREROUTING ? |
| 22:54.57 | zamaliphe | how can i add this repository http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/12/08/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/ |
| 22:54.57 | pinks | I have partitioned and made a filesystem on my new HDD, but it refuses to mount -- any ideas? |
| 22:55.50 | amphi | pinks: what command are you using, and what error do you get? |
| 22:57.02 | pinks | amphi: just fixed it thanks -- I was asking for mount -a -t ext2fs and it didn't like that |
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| 22:57.58 | pinks | amphi: but it seems happy with just mount -a |
| 22:58.03 | Thug-N-Me | what could this pid be ? >>> /usr/lib/bonobo-activation/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate --ior-out |
| 22:58.22 | dondelelcaro | lunaphyte: it's easier to modify the postrm with set -x, actually, and then run it again |
| 22:58.58 | dondelelcaro | lunaphyte: but the arguments are described in policy |
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| 23:00.05 | dondelelcaro | @owner |
| 23:00.11 | dondelelcaro | stoned: apt is TimRiker, and I don't think it's going to keep sync; the other backup was ravenbird, but I haven't seen it recently |
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| 23:00.57 | stoned | yeh Rikers been gone a while |
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| 23:02.26 | Thug-N-Me | wine its eating my cpu :) |
| 23:02.38 | agent | how is it that by using only the free repo (default), a fresh desktop install (via netinstall task) has mp3 playback support? i always thought that mp3 support was non-free |
| 23:03.01 | Thug-N-Me | agent debian world made easy :) |
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| 23:03.32 | zoddan | hi |
| 23:03.43 | stoned | agent: thats why I never liked redhat9 |
| 23:03.57 | Thug-N-Me | installing macromedia dreamweaver with wine doesnt go any fowrd then 30 % :) |
| 23:04.23 | stoned | Thug-N-Me: try vmware and a copy of windows or get a windows box |
| 23:04.25 | Thug-N-Me | stoned its not only redhat who hasnt mp3 support by default |
| 23:04.30 | stoned | Thug-N-Me: try a 299$ dell |
| 23:04.33 | stoned | it works for that at least |
| 23:04.59 | Thug-N-Me | stoned no need vmware i only want dreamweaver |
| 23:05.13 | stoned | well if wine isan't running it then its kinda useless no |
| 23:05.14 | agent | Thug-N-Me , stoned: thank you for your responses, but my question was what allows mp3 support in free repo? i would look into it myself but I do not have the computer in front of me |
| 23:05.20 | Thug-N-Me | stoned it worked last time :) |
| 23:05.23 | lepine_h | nmap -sT -sU -p 1-65535 tells me there a UDP thing going on. netstat -nlp nor fuser -n udp 37835 ( the actual port has changed at reboots ) |
| 23:05.28 | stoned | ohh ok. well good luck then bro |
| 23:05.30 | lepine_h | any idea what that could be? |
| 23:05.36 | zoddan | anyone in here running a Linksys WRT54G(L) with DD-WRT? |
| 23:05.53 | krazykit | zoddan, yep |
| 23:05.59 | agent | Thug-N-Me, stoned: or to go further: _why_ is it in free and non-free? |
| 23:06.00 | stoned | lepine_h: my I suggest a manpage of nmap plus nmapfe to make life a bit easier |
| 23:06.19 | Thug-N-Me | agent you`re going to far now ;) |
| 23:06.20 | stoned | agent: I don't know. It is.. Accept it as a gift. |
| 23:06.24 | agent | Thug-N-Me:, stoned: that should say "in free and not in non-free" |
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| 23:06.48 | stoned | I don't mess around with should or shouldn't |
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| 23:07.09 | zoddan | krazykit: i have some wierd problems with mine, when i have entered a port forward ip,port and so on and pressing apply settings, everything i have entered disapers and all the fields is blank!, do you know anything about this problem? |
| 23:07.10 | stoned | there are people much smarter than you or I that work on debian |
| 23:07.15 | agent | stoned: being decieving is not a gift.... i would expect Debian to have everything that is non-free in non-free no questions asked (ok, binary blobs not being counted) |
| 23:07.21 | fas3r | hello |
| 23:07.37 | stoned | agent: I honestly don't know. Don' single me out. |
| 23:07.41 | xand | salut! |
| 23:07.53 | agent | stoned: ok, i am just asking tis all :) |
| 23:07.57 | stoned | :) |
| 23:07.59 | jelly-home | Thug-N-Me: apparently, Crossover Office supports Dreamweaver MX -- http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/?app_id=14 |
| 23:08.08 | zoddan | krazykit: ? |
| 23:08.18 | krazykit | zoddan, apply? i only have "save settings" also learn patience :-P |
| 23:08.31 | zoddan | krazykit: ok save settings then |
| 23:08.38 | krazykit | zoddan, don't think it should matter, but is javascript turned off? |
| 23:08.39 | zoddan | krazykit: how do i solve this? |
| 23:08.46 | zoddan | krazykit: yes java is on |
| 23:08.52 | krazykit | zoddan, javascript. |
| 23:08.54 | fas3r | a router is on the first layer ( physic ) in the OSI models ? |
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| 23:09.06 | zoddan | krazykit: tested with IE7,FF,Opera same problem |
| 23:09.09 | krazykit | zoddan, anyway, it's not related to debian, so go to ddwrt's support channel |
| 23:09.17 | zoddan | krazykit: and with 2 different versions of DD-WRT |
| 23:09.31 | zoddan | krazykit: whats the channel-name? |
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| 23:09.54 | krazykit | zoddan, http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Support:IRC |
| 23:09.54 | stoned | ddwrt is awesome |
| 23:10.00 | stoned | more awesome than any other firmware i'ive used |
| 23:10.02 | nitro4ce | how do u own a directory? (not a file) |
| 23:10.05 | stoned | thumbs up |
| 23:10.11 | stoned | chown |
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| 23:10.13 | zoddan | you can just say #dd-wrt |
| 23:10.15 | stoned | man chown |
| 23:10.19 | stoned | or chown -R |
| 23:10.21 | stoned | recurse |
| 23:10.27 | krazykit | zoddan, it's not as fun as pointing out that it's in the docs, easily accessible |
| 23:10.33 | zoddan | ... |
| 23:10.34 | zoddan | plz |
| 23:10.50 | nitro4ce | stoned: chown lucas /usr/share/java doesnt work |
| 23:10.58 | nitro4ce | the owner is root |
| 23:10.59 | stoned | of coruse it doesn't |
| 23:11.03 | stoned | do it as root |
| 23:11.18 | nitro4ce | stoned: yes i did it as root |
| 23:11.45 | stoned | you only want the dir to be or everything under it? |
| 23:11.48 | jelly-home | agent: well, at least for xmms, the decoder they use is free. |
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| 23:12.02 | nitro4ce | stoned: only the dir |
| 23:12.16 | zoddan | krazykit: nice, the channel is completly dead :/ |
| 23:12.24 | nitro4ce | stoned: not the files under it |
| 23:12.28 | zamaliphe | how can i add this repository http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/12/08/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/ |
| 23:12.35 | Thug-N-Me | jelly-home wine should to .. thanks i give it a try |
| 23:12.38 | krazykit | zoddan, not my problem, really. |
| 23:12.38 | stoned | nitro4ce: just sudo chown user:group file |
| 23:12.43 | stoned | just read the manpage man |
| 23:12.44 | karsten | zamaliphe: man sources.list |
| 23:12.57 | zoddan | krazykit: .... thanks for..... hum nothing i guess |
| 23:13.01 | nitro4ce | stoned: no i dont want to own any files |
| 23:13.06 | krazykit | zoddan, no problem. |
| 23:13.09 | nitro4ce | stoned: just the directory |
| 23:13.34 | stoned | is the same |
| 23:13.35 | stoned | dude |
| 23:14.02 | nitro4ce | stoned: hmm. it doesnt work |
| 23:14.04 | jstevens | Why am I able to configure gnome-terminal t use fonts that don't even show up in xfontsel?? |
| 23:14.05 | nitro4ce | stoned: :( |
| 23:14.07 | agent | jelly-home: i see... but i thought mp3 playback, no matter whether or not the software is free, requires a non-free license |
| 23:14.12 | jelly-home | Thug-N-Me: well, Crossover can and does sometimes implement dirtyish hacks to make certain apps work but which wine doesn't want to use. |
| 23:14.42 | zamaliphe | karsten: i know how to add repository to sources.list files just how to split it case i need to install the nvidia-glx_1.0.9631-1_i386.deb pkg |
| 23:14.42 | jelly-home | agent: reference? |
| 23:14.43 | jstevens | Do gnome apps have access to fonts that are separate from the X font system? |
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| 23:15.01 | karsten | zamaliphe: Sorry, I don't follow. |
| 23:15.37 | stoned | zamaliphe: deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/12/08/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/ ./ |
| 23:15.49 | agent | stoned: no, that is wrong |
| 23:16.01 | stoned | well that sucks |
| 23:16.05 | agent | stoned: that is the directory of the file :) |
| 23:16.07 | nitro4ce | jstevens: yes |
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| 23:16.22 | abrotman | stoned: did you try rosegarden ? |
| 23:16.30 | jstevens | nitro4ce: Mmm.. Ok. Thanks. |
| 23:16.32 | stoned | abrotman: nah man.. my input signal is too hot |
| 23:16.40 | agent | zamaliphe: i do not know for sure, but try deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/12/08/debian/ <dist> <other> |
| 23:16.40 | stoned | abrotman: I must find a compresser box |
| 23:16.51 | stoned | everything clips out |
| 23:16.53 | stoned | I mean everything |
| 23:16.59 | nitro4ce | abrotman: how do u own a directory? (not a file) |
| 23:17.01 | stoned | recording souns horrible |
| 23:17.09 | agent | zamaliphe: that debian/ dir has pool and dist which is required in a root folder for apt/aptitude to work normally |
| 23:17.31 | jelly-home | stoned: what is your source? |
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| 23:18.13 | abrotman | stoned: erm .. ok |
| 23:18.17 | abrotman | nitro4ce: chown |
| 23:18.36 | fas3r | a router is on the first layer ( physic ) in the OSI models ? |
| 23:18.43 | abrotman | wikipedia |
| 23:18.45 | jelly-home | fas3r: no, third |
| 23:18.57 | zamaliphe | agent: thanks I'm trying that now |
| 23:19.16 | eldowan | I see that debian.org provides security advisories via RSS, does debian.org also provide news via RSS? if so, i couln't fine it. |
| 23:19.21 | fas3r | oki thank jelly-home |
| 23:19.23 | jelly-home | fas3r: it's not really a Debian question is it |
| 23:19.24 | agent | zamaliphe: just replace <dist> <other> with whatever you need for you system |
| 23:19.35 | stoned | eldowan: sup |
| 23:19.51 | stoned | abrotman: you ever been in a rosegarden? |
| 23:19.55 | agent | !repository | zamaliphe |
| 23:19.59 | stoned | isn't it fantastic |
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| 23:20.06 | agent | !repository |
| 23:20.06 | dpkg | it has been said that debian repository is a set of Debian packages organized into a predefined structure for fetching with apt-get. A howto is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html |
| 23:20.14 | fas3r | jelly-home, yes i know ... ;) thank a lot |
| 23:20.24 | stoned | the smell of moist soil and plants and roses' fragrance.. |
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| 23:20.35 | stoned | and then you bring your debian laptop there |
| 23:20.41 | stoned | and is like whoah! awesome |
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| 23:20.52 | eldowan | stoned: big howdy from down south |
| 23:20.53 | agent | zamaliphe: you can always browse the dist folder to see what is available for the <dist> <other> fields |
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| 23:21.05 | zamaliphe | agent: i use etch normally but I'm ready to install that nvidia driver even form hill |
| 23:21.26 | abrotman | stoned: yes .. but time to go home! |
| 23:21.32 | stoned | see ya |
| 23:21.36 | stoned | drive carefully |
| 23:21.50 | agent | zamaliphe: yes, but etch is a name for the stable distro that is not yet stable: right now etch can be etch testing, unstable or experimental :) |
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| 23:24.00 | zamaliphe | agent: that is what i need new version every day |
| 23:24.24 | eldowan | heh, looks like we have magic mushrooms in the channel |
| 23:24.36 | eldowan | oops, no more magic |
| 23:24.45 | PraiseChaos | :( |
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| 23:26.12 | Roey | hi, how do I get packages without isntalling them, with apt-get? |
| 23:26.20 | Roey | I'm trying to follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188198 |
| 23:26.21 | jelly-home | Roey: -d |
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| 23:26.34 | Roey | jelly-home: ah, and this will download it even if it's already installed? |
| 23:26.38 | jelly-home | Roey: or even, apt-get -d install some-foo |
| 23:26.41 | Roey | I ran apt-get clean so I don't have it in my cache |
| 23:26.50 | Roey | but Ineed the lib to install flash |
| 23:26.55 | jelly-home | Roey: might need to add --reinstall |
| 23:27.04 | kaffien | so i fixed this libical problem |
| 23:27.09 | kaffien | now apache wont install YAY |
| 23:27.20 | Roey | jelly-home: that's what I thought of doing, yes. |
| 23:27.27 | kaffien | i thought apt-get understood dependancies |
| 23:27.52 | mfrisch | kaffien: aptitude is better |
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| 23:29.11 | kaffien | interesting ill try that |
| 23:29.19 | kaffien | same result |
| 23:29.54 | mfrisch | kaffien: but you may have not selected one of the builds of apache |
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| 23:30.23 | kaffien | perhaps not lets let -f fix things first |
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| 23:30.35 | mfrisch | kaffien: whats your line? |
| 23:31.08 | kaffien | aptitude install apachae2.2 |
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| 23:31.39 | benja22 | Hello, putting debian on a laptop for first time. No X. Is there a modprobe line that can get basic gui up. It's an ati radeon on a ze5300. Thanks. |
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| 23:31.56 | mfrisch | kaffien: dont think thats a debian version of apache |
| 23:31.57 | amphi | !tell benja22 about laptop |
| 23:32.02 | Guerin | benja22: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 23:32.27 | benja22 | thanks much guys |
| 23:33.15 | kaffien | well aptitude -t stable install apache2 got me apache 2.0.54 whichi cant use lol |
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| 23:34.23 | Thug-N-Me | jelly-home crossover 1000 times better then wine , got my application installed in seconds |
| 23:34.47 | jelly-home | Thug-N-Me: that's what you pay for. But wine's getting better every day. |
| 23:35.03 | Guerin | Thug-N-Me: that's only because they make wine purposefully shit so there's amarket for crossover. |
| 23:35.18 | Guerin | jelly-home: yeah, and it'll never be `good enough' |
| 23:35.28 | Thug-N-Me | :) |
| 23:35.39 | jelly-home | Guerin: I don't care, it's a good product and they trickle back their changes. |
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| 23:35.54 | Guerin | jelly-home: it would be good if it were free. |
| 23:36.05 | Guerin | as it is, it's just more untrustable code |
| 23:36.07 | jelly-home | Guerin: no, it's good even for $40 |
| 23:36.48 | jelly-home | seeing as I'm running effin m$ office inside it, I don't really care about an extra untrusted layer |
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| 23:36.57 | Guerin | !pity jelly-home |
| 23:36.58 | dpkg | I pity da fool jelly-home! |
| 23:37.45 | hanneso | is anyone using syncml and could point meto a howto |
| 23:38.13 | jelly-home | Guerin: frankly, it would be a bit nicer if it was free, and I'd still buy it. |
| 23:38.58 | kaffien | if i wants to update apache with say .. apt-get -t sarge-backports install apacah2 how do i make it so that aptget or aptitude automagically resolves the dependancies? |
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| 23:40.48 | yetifoot | Hi, i have a folder full of deb files i've downloaded, and want to make a packages.tar.gz in order to use this folder in aptitude, what program should i use? thanks |
| 23:41.34 | eldowan | yetifoot: why not dpkg -i *.deb? |
| 23:42.13 | peterS | kaffien: that does not already work? it should. |
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| 23:42.40 | jelly-home | yetifoot: in that directory, dpkg-scanpackage . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz |
| 23:43.19 | yetibot | thanks jelly-home, i'll look that up |
| 23:43.21 | peterS | jelly-home: heh, -c is implied if you don't give a filename |
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| 23:43.26 | jelly-home | yetifoot: then you can add deb file:/some/where ./ to sources.list |
| 23:43.29 | Stevie-O | greetings |
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| 23:44.09 | jelly-home | peterS: didn't know. Well, that's one letter off the incantation. |
| 23:44.41 | peterS | jelly-home: and my .bashrc ensures that I have GZIP='-9 --rsyncable' so for me that's 2 more chars off the incantation |
| 23:44.57 | zamaliphe | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 23:44.58 | zamaliphe | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.35 | jelly-home | peterS: I actually have a script that updates the repo too, but still |
| 23:45.39 | peterS | jelly-home: (btw 'rsyncable' really means 'deltas of this file can be stored efficiently in svn', among other things) |
| 23:46.13 | jelly-home | petemc: hmm, interesting idea putting binaries in svn |
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| 23:47.17 | peterS | jelly-home: I don't put a lot of binaries in svn but there is the occasional use for it. I'm just disappointed that after several years, gzip --rsyncable is still a debian-specific patch, so I can't tell other people to use it for generating tar.gz files and such |
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| 23:48.37 | jelly-home | upstream no like? |
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| 23:49.06 | lindenle | Would it be considered a bug if SMP is enabled in the 2.6-k7 linux image package? |
| 23:49.21 | Guerin | lindenle: no, why would it? |
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| 23:49.40 | lindenle | Guerin: Well there is a package 2.6-k7-smp too |
| 23:50.03 | helo | lindenle: i brought up the same point... no answer to be found :) |
| 23:50.06 | eldowan | lindenle: I believe >= 2.6.18 have smp in the binary by default. |
| 23:50.16 | lindenle | Guerin: And I just realized the reason my NVIDIA card is oopsing the kernel is the SMP and I did not know until I looked at config |
| 23:50.17 | Guerin | lindenle: smp support means the kernel image is marginally larger, but doesn't affect the performance of single-cpu machines |
| 23:50.26 | Guerin | oh, it is? |
| 23:50.30 | helo | lindenle: if you want a non-smp system, you have to compile yourself |
| 23:50.34 | kaffien | my god ... apache 2.2 is being picky as hell |
| 23:50.41 | Guerin | that would be an nvidia bug |
| 23:50.44 | lindenle | That is fine i just found it cryptic |
| 23:50.45 | Guerin | complain to them |
| 23:51.17 | lindenle | Guerin: i know that but I need to get it working and i found the same error i was getting for SMP kernels but ignored it b/c i am not running one...or so i thought |
| 23:51.40 | kaffien | can i specify what version for aptitude to grab? |
| 23:51.40 | mfrisch | nvidia graphics cards is spitting kern oops |
| 23:52.00 | Guerin | kaffien: be our guest. |
| 23:52.05 | lindenle | mfrisch: Yep and X zombies and no display ..:) |
| 23:52.08 | eldowan | kaffien: we wont mind |
| 23:52.09 | lindenle | fun fun |
| 23:52.12 | kaffien | like aptittude install sqlite3.3.3.3 |
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| 23:52.34 | Guerin | kaffien: man aptitude |
| 23:52.47 | lindenle | Kind of a bummer that i will always have to build kernels now |
| 23:52.59 | kaffien | i know theres a man page but reading the whole damned thing for one command or answer is annoying |
| 23:53.00 | kaffien | brb |
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| 23:54.08 | karsten | How do I make tcpspy sane? |
| 23:54.19 | karsten | ... other than removing it? It's logging every single web access. |
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| 23:54.45 | mfrisch | karsten: thats what it does ;=) |
| 23:55.17 | karsten | mfrisch: I took a quick gander at the config file manpage. No !@#$%^&*() examples. |
| 23:55.53 | yetibot | thanks jelly-home, I got my packages folder all set up |
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| 23:56.24 | kaffien | grrr |
| 23:56.31 | jelly-home | yetibot: you're a bot! |
| 23:56.44 | kaffien | a packare requires 3.7.7 but 3.5.0 is all i can find with either ports, stable, unstable or testing |
| 23:56.45 | karsten | jelly-home: With big feet and white fur. |
| 23:56.52 | kaffien | and i did an apt-get update |
| 23:57.03 | jelly-home | karsten: that's the best kind! |
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| 23:57.22 | antlarr | hi |
| 23:57.30 | yetibot | jelly-home, lol, my other connection died, and i was too lazy to ghost |
| 23:57.45 | antlarr | is there any way to make the equivalent of dpkg -S /path/to/file but also for uninstalled packages? |
| 23:57.58 | lncast | antlarr: apt-file |
| 23:58.22 | antlarr | lncast: great, thanks! |
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| 23:59.01 | kerneloops | interesting... Does anyone around have/tried Cruzer Profile Fingerprint scanner ? |
| 23:59.47 | mfrisch | kerneloops: does it work with luks |
