| 00:00.25 | Hoxzer | On the otherside |
| 00:00.38 | aarkerio | I heard something about use "aoss firefox" command, using alsa-oss |
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| 00:02.27 | nyk2005 | Hello! I currently have this problem: Package clustalw is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 00:02.39 | EmleyMoor | I have a hosed grub installation on a system with no floppy drive. How do I get into it to fix it? |
| 00:02.46 | EmleyMoor | (using a CD...) |
| 00:02.51 | JordiGH | Ooh, neato. A biologist. |
| 00:03.09 | nyk2005 | I mean I could compile it, but then it already in some repo apparently, just where? |
| 00:03.18 | JordiGH | nyk2005: Will clustalw-mpi do what you want? |
| 00:03.21 | JordiGH | !info clustalw-mpi |
| 00:03.25 | dpkg | clustalw-mpi: ([Biology] MPI-distributed global sequence alignment with ClustalW), section non-free/science, is optional. Version: 0.13-3 (sid), Packaged size: 131 kB, Installed size: 328 kB |
| 00:03.29 | abrotman | EmleyMoor: grab an ubuntu CD i guess |
| 00:03.55 | enouf | has to go for now |
| 00:04.00 | EmleyMoor | No way using the official CD? |
| 00:04.15 | nyk2005 | JordiGH: yep... I guess! |
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| 00:04.42 | abrotman | EmleyMoor: you can try .. i've never done it |
| 00:05.02 | JordiGH | nyk2005: Aww.. clustalw is non-free.. maybe that's the problem. Do you have non-free sources available? |
| 00:05.03 | nyk2005 | JordiGH: But it has the same problem... |
| 00:05.23 | nyk2005 | JordiGH: non free? its in gentoo... |
| 00:05.33 | ironfroggy | so i was using my laptop, and i closed it to move to my office to work, and when i opened it back up i had no network. i can't grab dhcp leases, even tho the server is granting them, dhclient doesnt seem to get the response. is there something, anything i can do? |
| 00:05.34 | JordiGH | nyk2005: It's non-free. Free as in freedom. |
| 00:05.48 | JordiGH | !non-free |
| 00:05.48 | dpkg | non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html Also ask me about "vrms" |
| 00:05.55 | abrotman | unload the modules and reload them ? |
| 00:06.39 | ironfroggy | ive even tried rebooting, without any affect. |
| 00:06.51 | abrotman | maybe the cable isn't hot |
| 00:06.52 | abrotman | ? |
| 00:06.55 | nyk2005 | JordiGH: well that's bad... but I have to use some multiple alignment tool... :) |
| 00:06.56 | JordiGH | Of all non-free software, seeing non-free scientific software pains me the most. Of all things, science should be free. :-( |
| 00:06.57 | ironfroggy | wifi |
| 00:07.22 | abrotman | out of range? |
| 00:07.29 | ironfroggy | three feet away. |
| 00:07.37 | abrotman | it just hates you? :) |
| 00:07.41 | ironfroggy | i love it! |
| 00:07.48 | abrotman | the module is loading for the NIC? |
| 00:07.51 | abrotman | and it's in dmesg? |
| 00:07.56 | abrotman | and dhclient tries like 10 times ? |
| 00:07.59 | ironfroggy | anyway im gonna go watch house |
| 00:08.00 | ironfroggy | yeah |
| 00:08.07 | ironfroggy | i fixed it. |
| 00:08.07 | JordiGH | nyk2005: You can install non-free sources with apt. You'll need to modify your /etc/apt/sources.list file as dpkg just kindly told us how. But I would strongly urge you to peruse the science section in Synaptic/Aptitude/Kpackage and see if you can find a free replacement. |
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| 00:09.00 | abrotman | ironfroggy: you fixed it already? |
| 00:09.47 | abrotman | ok ... well then |
| 00:09.56 | brianski | how long should it take to build a kernel on a P4/3.0GHz with just about everything enabled? |
| 00:10.23 | abrotman | 10 minutes? |
| 00:10.26 | abrotman | depnds how much RAM |
| 00:10.31 | brianski | 1G |
| 00:10.36 | abrotman | and what else is going on .. and what -j setting you used |
| 00:10.42 | nyk2005 | JordiGH: I know no free replacement, but would like to know if one existed. the multiple alignment algorithm is free, I saw the paper it would be easy to implement I think.. |
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| 00:10.56 | brianski | if -j is threads, i did 1 |
| 00:11.30 | Hoxzer | :( |
| 00:11.33 | JordiGH | nyk2005: Peruse the science section. I've seen lots of stuff there for molecular biology and dealing with neuclotide sequences. |
| 00:11.34 | abrotman | brianski: so how long so far? |
| 00:11.47 | brianski | i dunno, long enough for me to be impatient :) |
| 00:11.51 | abrotman | nice |
| 00:11.55 | Hoxzer | WHat PHP server do you guys prefer? |
| 00:11.58 | brianski | just curious if someone had built one recently and had an idea offhand |
| 00:12.01 | JordiGH | nucleotide |
| 00:12.04 | brianski | Hoxzer: perl :) |
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| 00:12.34 | Hoxzer | ok... |
| 00:12.46 | abrotman | Hoxzer: that was a bit vague |
| 00:12.51 | SubStack | mason! |
| 00:12.59 | brianski | SubStack: :) |
| 00:13.07 | JordiGH | nyk2005: I don't work in your field, so I don't know exactly what you need, but if you can support free software, well... ;-) |
| 00:13.10 | brianski | my favorite php serv ers are from dell |
| 00:13.24 | Hoxzer | :( |
| 00:13.25 | brianski | web servers are also good with php |
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| 00:13.45 | SubStack | wikipedia is actually my favorite php server |
| 00:13.52 | SubStack | despite the fact that it uses php |
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| 00:14.02 | mick_linux | hi everyone, I'm having some problems setting up wireless on testing using my Linksys WPC11 v.3 card and a 2.4.27-2-386 kernel. Could someone lend me a hand? |
| 00:14.03 | brianski | yeah i hate that about mediawiki |
| 00:14.39 | nyk2005 | JordiGH: I browsing the science section of debian packages now... maybe I find an alternative.... but I have to transfer a web-app toolchain from gentoo to debian and using the same helper apps makes it easier... :) |
| 00:14.59 | SubStack | kwiki is perl though |
| 00:15.54 | JordiGH | nyk2005: I find it that it helps if you compare yourself to the rebels in Zion in the Matrix... you're enlightened.. you know what freedom costs.. and you're willing to fight for it... Free your drive... |
| 00:16.32 | Ronin | and the rest will follow |
| 00:16.44 | EmleyMoor | When I try using the official CD, booting with linux26 root=/dev/hda3, I get VFS: Cannot open root device "hda3" or unknown-block(0,0) |
| 00:16.57 | EmleyMoor | Plesse append a correct "root=" boot option |
| 00:17.17 | EmleyMoor | ...followed by a kernel panic... why would this be, exactly? |
| 00:17.25 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: You need to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 00:17.38 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: debconf got confused about where your hard drive is. |
| 00:17.41 | EmleyMoor | JordiGH: I need to be able to get at it first! |
| 00:17.50 | nyk2005 | JordiGH: yeah... I found "muscle", it sound like a possible replacement! Strange that they keep clustalw non-free tough, but some universities (or most?) keep their copyright secured.. :( I also use a non-free neural network C library and can't find a free one that's as good.. |
| 00:18.10 | mick_linux | i tried to install via ´apt-get install pcmcia-cs´ (since linux-wlan-ng was giving me problems |
| 00:18.38 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: Do you get a kernel panic or booted into a busybox? Do you have a livecd? Those things are always handy for rescue operations. |
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| 00:19.08 | EmleyMoor | Kernel panic. Can you recommend a good livecd that is not too bloated (i.e. I can download quickly) |
| 00:19.10 | EmleyMoor | ? |
| 00:19.11 | nyk2005 | JordiGH: even the paper on it is free! :) |
| 00:19.40 | mick_linux | exact issues were: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.o |
| 00:19.49 | JordiGH | nyk2005: Debian is sometimes much too picky for the tastes of some as to what it considers free or not. I'm sure that there are talk pages somewhere that detail the decision to put clustalw in the non-free section. |
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| 00:20.30 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: Yipes... you're not on dialup, are you? I suppose Damn Small Linux could work. It's about 80 megs, I think, and it fits into a USB key. |
| 00:20.44 | hatezilla | i installed debian off a usb key once upon a time |
| 00:21.09 | litage | what's the difference between Debian 3.1 r0a, 3.1 r1, and 3.1 r2? |
| 00:21.13 | EmleyMoor | No, I'm on broadband, but need small, for speed |
| 00:21.20 | nyk2005 | JordiGH: muscle is even better that clustalw, as stated in their own paper... thanks for pointing out alternatives! |
| 00:21.24 | EmleyMoor | I will look at that |
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| 00:22.24 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: Even Damn Small Linux might be too big, heh. It has stuff like X and a window manager. :-) |
| 00:22.26 | abrotman | depmod |
| 00:23.00 | EmleyMoor | Jordi: It will take 10% or so of the download time of, say, Knoppix! |
| 00:23.28 | abrotman | EmleyMoor: ask #grub if they have a CD ISO |
| 00:23.53 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: Knoppix is a wonderful little thing and worth downloading when you have the time. I love their chubby little penguin. |
| 00:24.11 | EmleyMoor | JordiGH: Correction, it's a wonderful big thing |
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| 00:25.10 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: Well, if you get the DVD it is... anyways, get your DSL distro and de gustibus, etc. |
| 00:25.39 | EmleyMoor | Even the CD is big, compared to what I actually need right now |
| 00:26.28 | JordiGH | This is really strange.. my firewall or whatever blocks damnsmalllinux.org and debian.org. I smell a plot. |
| 00:26.42 | mick_linux | abrotman: me? (the depmod thing) |
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| 00:26.59 | abrotman | depmod -a |
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| 00:27.37 | mick_linux | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.o |
| 00:27.38 | mick_linux | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.o |
| 00:27.51 | mick_linux | that is what i get (only that error) |
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| 00:32.01 | mick_linux | thecard gets power (and the link light flashes) |
| 00:32.18 | mick_linux | actually, no it is solid |
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| 00:33.17 | lnxr | hey |
| 00:34.06 | lnxr | how do i get back to the initial setup in debian to install extra packages? |
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| 00:34.55 | Ronin | lnxr: why not just install them now? |
| 00:35.07 | lnxr | because i dont know how to |
| 00:35.09 | JordiGH | lnxr: aptitude |
| 00:35.15 | JordiGH | lnxr: as root. |
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| 00:35.28 | JordiGH | Debian virgins are so cute. :-) |
| 00:35.33 | lnxr | lol |
| 00:35.37 | lnxr | :) |
| 00:35.41 | lnxr | ouch :( |
| 00:35.44 | Ronin | lnxr: apt-get |
| 00:35.45 | lnxr | lol |
| 00:35.50 | lnxr | i got it |
| 00:35.52 | Ronin | lnxr: ask him what cheek i dare you |
| 00:36.01 | lnxr | what cheek? |
| 00:36.02 | lnxr | hmmm? |
| 00:36.14 | abrotman | ass cheek? |
| 00:36.16 | Ronin | lnxr: you run stable? |
| 00:36.31 | lnxr | :S |
| 00:36.45 | lnxr | i duno, im on vmware with an image that i downloaded from a random site |
| 00:36.46 | lnxr | lol |
| 00:36.55 | lnxr | debian 3.1r1 |
| 00:37.17 | JordiGH | Yep, that's stable. |
| 00:38.45 | lnxr | hmm, how do i install kde? its there in that aptitude thing, but its massive. i saw a smaller .deb download on the kde website |
| 00:38.47 | Ronin | lnxr: in that case you may want to run apt-setup as root first |
| 00:38.54 | lnxr | but i dont know how to run that |
| 00:39.06 | Ronin | kde and small in the same sentence? heh |
| 00:39.26 | abrotman | !install kde |
| 00:39.26 | dpkg | rumour has it, install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 00:39.39 | abrotman | so .. apt-get install <oneoftheabove> |
| 00:39.53 | JordiGH | aptitude! |
| 00:39.56 | JordiGH | !aptitude |
| 00:39.57 | dpkg | hmm... aptitude is a powerful and flexible package manager which is not afraid to experiment with new ideas. http://aptitude.sourceforge.net, or 'apt-get install aptitude', or http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg03138.html. But be careful boys'n'grilfs: Bug# 299009 |
| 00:39.58 | Ronin | or that one |
| 00:40.09 | tvn | how do I make a 'maildir' ? |
| 00:40.30 | EmleyMoor | tvn: maildirmake |
| 00:40.39 | JordiGH | aptitude moo |
| 00:40.41 | abrotman | yeah .. should really swtich to aptitude |
| 00:40.42 | JordiGH | aptitude -v moo |
| 00:40.45 | JordiGH | aptitude -vv moo |
| 00:40.45 | JordiGH | (etc) |
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| 00:41.11 | predder | I'm about to do a net install of debian onto a newish intel entry-server motherboard with a Pentium D (dual core). Any hints for this combination of hardware? Start with the 2.6 kernel? |
| 00:41.34 | dvs | predder: if that kernel recognizes the chipset |
| 00:41.47 | predder | It uses the ICH7-R so I know I should disable the hardware raid before installing.. |
| 00:41.49 | tvn | EmleyMoor: I can't find it on Sarge .. do you know what package contains it ? |
| 00:41.54 | dvs | predder: I'd use the sarge 2.6.16 CD image |
| 00:42.21 | EmleyMoor | tvn: Which imap server are you using? |
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| 00:42.36 | predder | dvs, I have my own local repository which is why I was going with a net install |
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| 00:42.56 | tvn | EmleyMoor: um , none ? I don't have any of those |
| 00:43.19 | EmleyMoor | tvn: Well, courier is what I use and it came as part of that |
| 00:43.22 | lnxr | anybody in the uk willing to show up a scam? |
| 00:43.26 | tvn | EmleyMoor: I use getmail to fetch the emails |
| 00:43.29 | lnxr | (has to be over 18) |
| 00:43.30 | lnxr | lol |
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| 00:43.46 | Ronin | lnxr: no thanks, |
| 00:43.51 | lnxr | okay |
| 00:43.55 | lnxr | just wondering |
| 00:44.34 | lnxr | are there any small desktop environments that i can get precompiled for debian? |
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| 00:44.54 | dvs | lnxr: xfce seems to be very popular |
| 00:44.58 | Ronin | lnxr: small? fluxbox, blacbox, whitebox, umm xfce or is it xfce4 now |
| 00:45.03 | pipeline | lnxr: "small" and "desktop environment" are mutually exclusive. |
| 00:45.14 | Hoxzer | WOUld you offended if I told you I like the way you lick your lips |
| 00:45.15 | dvs | pipeline: true |
| 00:45.17 | Ronin | pipeline: true but i think we can safely guess what he meant |
| 00:45.19 | predder | dvs, I only have a 2.6.8 CD image.. Where can I get a 2.6.16 from? |
| 00:45.23 | pipeline | lnxr: The smallest as far as memory footprint versus features is probably KDE. |
| 00:45.24 | aeolus | Not always. Look at Win3.1 - only 6MBG |
| 00:45.27 | aeolus | *6MB |
| 00:45.27 | dvs | !sarge 2.6.16 |
| 00:45.27 | dpkg | if you want to run a 2.6.16 kernel on debian sarge, first follow the instructions on http://backports.org/instructions.html then "aptitude update ; apt-get -t sarge-backports install grub udev initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-$arch" where $arch is one of 486 686 k7. also ask me about <bpo>, or for a sarge 2.6.16 installer see http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2616.htm |
| 00:45.28 | Hoxzer | would you be offended if I showned you how I would like to work those hips |
| 00:45.33 | pipeline | lnxr: The absolute smallest is probable CDE, but C DE costs money. |
| 00:45.35 | dvs | predder: the last link |
| 00:45.52 | JordiGH | lnxr: All Debian packages are precompiled, by the way. You can also get source if you want. |
| 00:46.05 | pipeline | aeolus: Look at the features available in 3.1. No thanks. Now, Windows 2000, a complete desktop in 50M of RAM, that's really something. |
| 00:46.22 | predder | thanks dvs.. |
| 00:46.28 | lnxr | the only desktop environment thats listed in aptitude is kde though.... |
| 00:46.30 | dvs | you're welcome |
| 00:46.40 | dvs | lnxr: nope |
| 00:46.44 | Ronin | lnxr: not quite |
| 00:46.45 | aeolus | I use Win2000 on this computer, dual-boot. |
| 00:46.47 | pipeline | lnxr: Well, KDE has a lot of features given howh little memory it takes up. |
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| 00:47.03 | plopa | hi |
| 00:47.04 | JordiGH | lnxr: "aptitude source packagename" downloads the source. "aptitude build-dep packagename" downloads and configures the dependencies you may need in order to compile the source. |
| 00:47.06 | plopa | when i rmmod ndiswrapper, the module is auto reloaded |
| 00:47.08 | plopa | anyway to stop auto reload? |
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| 00:47.27 | aeolus | I'd be using Win XP, but M$' WGA claims my legitimate copy is pirated. |
| 00:47.31 | litage | what's the difference between Debian 3.1 r0a, 3.1 r1, and 3.1 r2? |
| 00:47.38 | dvs | litage: fix levels |
| 00:47.53 | litage | dvs: what sorts of fixes are we talking about? |
| 00:48.04 | dvs | litage: security mainly |
| 00:48.07 | Ronin | aeolus: so call them and bitch |
| 00:48.11 | JordiGH | litage: high-priority security fixes. |
| 00:48.27 | dvs | litage: including kernel fixes |
| 00:48.39 | JordiGH | aeolus: Windows XP's license agreement says its illegal to lend your computer to a friend to check their email. |
| 00:48.39 | aeolus | I did; their "script-reading" Indian tech support drones tell me I gotta pay $199 for a new key |
| 00:49.07 | litage | dvs, JordiGH: i have my own apt repository and am doing a network install, should i bother upgrading my netinst CD from r0a to r2? |
| 00:49.16 | EmleyMoor | aeolus: Whereabouts in the world are you? |
| 00:49.21 | dvs | litage: no |
| 00:49.29 | litage | dvs: why's that? |
| 00:49.48 | thingfish | ooo where's greeley |
| 00:49.49 | dvs | litage: if you're doing a net install, you'll get the new packages over the internet anyways |
| 00:49.49 | EmleyMoor | aeolus: Shame... could have told you what to do if you were in the UK |
| 00:49.59 | aeolus | What could I have done? |
| 00:50.04 | dvs | litage: actually, you're getting it from your local repository anyways |
| 00:50.08 | litage | thanks dvs |
| 00:50.21 | EmleyMoor | Gone through your supplier under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 |
| 00:50.34 | dvs | litage: you're welcome |
| 00:50.43 | aeolus | hmm, there's something like that in the US... |
| 00:50.55 | aeolus | Can't remember what it's called but... |
| 00:51.05 | EmleyMoor | I'm pretty sure there is... ours is very firm though... |
| 00:51.12 | aeolus | I could use the US equivalent of that toward M$ |
| 00:51.29 | sparr | aeolus: just ignore WGA, and remember not to install it again |
| 00:51.54 | aeolus | Then I can't get IE7, Windows Defender, Windows Live Messenger, etc. |
| 00:51.54 | JordiGH | Where can I find the rationale behind why a package was put into the non-free section? I thought it would be easy to google for clustalw, but... |
| 00:51.57 | Ronin | and if you really want to be devious, and im not promotting it either theres ways around that |
| 00:52.18 | EmleyMoor | JordiGH: What's its license? |
| 00:52.36 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: In /usr/share/doc, right? I guess I'd have to install it. |
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| 00:53.44 | aeolus | Who knows? Eventually Microsoft might shut out security patches, and then what happens if I get exploited? |
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| 00:53.57 | dvs | aeolus: hahahhahaha. You're funny |
| 00:54.11 | EmleyMoor | JordiGH: In this case you probably just have to know what it is |
| 00:54.16 | JordiGH | aeolus: See: Skynet. |
| 00:54.35 | aeolus | JordiGH: See Netsky |
| 00:54.56 | aeolus | 'Tis a Windows thing. You might not understand. |
| 00:55.54 | EmleyMoor | non-free because distribution at will is not permitted |
| 00:56.00 | aeolus | If Adobe releases Linux versions of their apps, I'll buy. |
| 00:56.03 | plopa | when i rmmod ndiswrapper, the module is auto reloaded. How can i stop auto reload and switch to other driver ? |
| 00:56.17 | rustifer | hey gang... I'm uh running Debian Etch... and stupidly ran an apt-get upgrade (well, I marked all upgradable packages in synaptic and let 'er run). My radeon driver for xorg (now version 7, I think) and I'm back to the sluggish ati driver. I can't get the fglrx-driver package to install; any tips? |
| 00:56.36 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: Yeah, the /usr/share/doc/clustalw/copyright file contains the details. The authors demonstrate some goodwill towards Debian but got their hands tied legally because of politics and economics. |
| 00:57.30 | JordiGH | aeolus: What's that Netsky thing, a virus? |
| 00:57.37 | aeolus | Yes./ |
| 00:57.46 | aeolus | One of the worst things a Windows user can get. |
| 00:58.01 | JordiGH | There are viruses for Linux too! |
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| 00:58.09 | JordiGH | And we're very, very proud of them. |
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| 00:58.17 | JordiGH | Top ramen! |
| 00:58.46 | aeolus | Yes, the dreaded fork() bomb. |
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| 01:00.10 | aeolus | It's kinda annoying, but you can just reboot nonchalantly. |
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| 01:00.34 | JordiGH | And it goes out of its way to be helpful to remove itself. |
| 01:00.41 | aeolus | haha |
| 01:01.06 | JordiGH | It really does. It's a very cute little virus. And I do love ramen myself too. |
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| 01:01.14 | aeolus | Then there's the "User/Rmrf" exploit, takes out a whole Linux install in one swath |
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| 01:02.23 | dvs | aeolus: cannibal! |
| 01:02.24 | aeolus | Actually, wait... I eat Maruchan Ramen. |
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| 01:02.54 | JordiGH | Hm, what's that exploit thing? Don't think I've heard about it. |
| 01:03.22 | abrotman | eh .. wrong channel ? |
| 01:03.24 | aeolus | JordiGH: It's a message from a sysadmin that entices the user to type "rm -rf *" on their console. |
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| 01:03.41 | abrotman | aeolus: stop |
| 01:03.43 | aeolus | Doing that will completely and utterly mess up a Linux distro. |
| 01:03.48 | EmleyMoor | How can I be "root" in DSL? |
| 01:03.52 | aeolus | I advise against it, in fact. |
| 01:03.56 | abrotman | aeolus: STOP |
| 01:04.00 | plopa | when i rmmod ndiswrapper, the module is auto reloaded. How can i stop auto reload and switch to other driver ? |
| 01:04.02 | Ronin | EmleyMoor: you ask #dsl but su then the root password will help |
| 01:04.20 | JordiGH | Hehehe... I love this description of the Ramen virus. "The script programs are ".sh" files that are run by a Linux command shell (like DOS BAT files and Windows CMD files)." |
| 01:04.39 | JordiGH | Yeah, gotta tell us that they're like .bat files, otherwise we'd be confused! |
| 01:04.55 | JordiGH | aeolus: rm -rf would only trash my home directory. |
| 01:05.07 | Ronin | JordiGH: i dont then the did that to tell us but non linux readers |
| 01:05.07 | abrotman | JordiGH: stop |
| 01:05.11 | plopa | can someone help me with modules? |
| 01:05.27 | streuner | !tell plopa about ask |
| 01:06.19 | streuner | !tell plopa about repeat |
| 01:06.21 | streuner | ;-) |
| 01:06.35 | plopa | streuner: it was just a lame attempt to get you more interested in my problem :) |
| 01:07.12 | plopa | knew it wouldnt work :) |
| 01:08.15 | JordiGH | Eh? |
| 01:08.16 | abrotman | yay! |
| 01:08.16 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... GRUB still giving error 22 when I boot |
| 01:08.40 | JordiGH | Wait, so it's wrong to type "rm -rf" even when I say it's a bad thing to do? |
| 01:09.00 | dvs | JordiGH: go |
| 01:09.05 | dvs | ;-) |
| 01:09.08 | abrotman | JordiGH: just don't talk about it |
| 01:09.16 | EmleyMoor | It looks like I *should* be able to repair my grub from DSL - but no luck yet |
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| 01:09.57 | Ronin | EmleyMoor: broken grub? did someone suggest disk 1, f1, rescue, then rebuild boot loader? ive been out most of the night so im not sure |
| 01:10.07 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: What's shaking? Did you boot? |
| 01:10.11 | Flav | is it possible to create a dump (core file) of a process as you're debugging it in gdb (it's currently stopped in a sigsegv)? |
| 01:10.13 | abrotman | Ronin: shovelling snow ? |
| 01:10.33 | rustifer | you guys don't know, huh ? |
| 01:10.36 | Ronin | abrotman: ha, at least it would cool freaking down, nope i spent the night bitching at my domain registrar |
| 01:10.39 | EmleyMoor | Ronin: F1 then rescue? Didn't seem to work when I tried it... |
| 01:10.47 | Ronin | rustifer: know what? |
| 01:10.53 | rustifer | hey gang... I'm uh running Debian Etch... and stupidly ran an apt-get upgrade (well, I marked all upgradable packages in synaptic and let 'er run). My radeon driver for xorg (now version 7, I think) and I'm back to the sluggish ati driver. I can't get the fglrx-driver package to install; any tips? |
| 01:11.19 | abrotman | !fglrx |
| 01:11.19 | dpkg | it has been said that fglrx is add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line; aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant; then use module-assistant to create a binary drm module (fglrx-kernel-xyz) |
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| 01:11.44 | rustifer | abrotman: why thank you. |
| 01:11.48 | rustifer | dpkg: thank you too |
| 01:11.48 | dpkg | rustifer: pas de quoi |
| 01:11.55 | Ronin | aeolus: play nice there, we dont need a # war :) |
| 01:12.11 | abrotman | aeolus: do you have anything debian related to say? |
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| 01:12.39 | aeolus | Yes. I love Debian, but I thought this was #fedora. |
| 01:12.43 | aeolus | My bad. |
| 01:12.48 | abrotman | damn troll |
| 01:12.56 | Ronin | sweet jebus, here comes in the days email that were snagged thanks to the registrar |
| 01:12.59 | aeolus | abrotman: you don't even know me... |
| 01:13.11 | abrotman | i know you're not helping or asking |
| 01:13.11 | aeolus | ...so how can you call me a troll? |
| 01:13.17 | abrotman | i jsut did .. tough shit |
| 01:13.20 | Ronin | he's pretty good that way :) |
| 01:13.46 | streuner | don't feed! |
| 01:14.00 | Ronin | but we'll starve then ;) |
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| 01:14.05 | aeolus | I do use Debian occasionally. |
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| 01:15.10 | streuner | abrotman: what's up there, its pretty hot in .de, what are doing against the heat? |
| 01:15.19 | GeorgeS069 | hi folks...had a problem with dovecot so I apt-get remove'd it and removed the .conf files and dir for it in /etc/ and now when I apt-get install dovecot it won't setup the .conf files in /etc/...what am I doing wrong? |
| 01:15.19 | streuner | you* |
| 01:15.21 | zepeuga | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.27 | Ronin | streuner: dont know about streuner but here in .ca we drink more beer |
| 01:15.34 | Ronin | doh |
| 01:15.38 | abrotman | what heat? .. it's awesome here .. it was like 85F today .. i'd like it a bit hotter .. but oh well |
| 01:15.46 | EmleyMoor | Can someone please guide me in fixing grub? My only means of getting at it is with DSL - I can get in and do as I wish but still get error 22 |
| 01:15.54 | abrotman | zepeuga: ask #ati |
| 01:15.56 | streuner | Come to germany! :-) |
| 01:16.00 | c|int | hello all.. testing with testing/unstable, didn't work really good with packages.. well I should of known that.. but I didn't like the lilo. I guess I should or could of changed that at instal. but I guess my question is.. how hard is it to change or upgrade to xorg from XFree86, and also get xgl installed, I recently just got some awesome books |
| 01:16.04 | abrotman | EmleyMoor: what does error 22 mean ? |
| 01:16.05 | rustifer | abrotman: that's not working :( I have contrib non-free at the end of all my sources.list lines, and aptitude claims no candidate for fglrx-driver, no package whose name or desc. matched fglrx-control, no candidate version for fglrx-kernel-src :( |
| 01:16.05 | dvs | abrotman: you too? It was about 85F up here too |
| 01:16.11 | zepeuga | abrotman: getting no response |
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| 01:16.15 | Ronin | streuner: love to , dads from there, excellent beer and pastry |
| 01:16.18 | zepeuga | abrotman: and my distr its debian |
| 01:16.19 | abrotman | rustifer: don't forget to run apt-get update |
| 01:16.45 | rustifer | ran it less than an hour ago, didn't have to add anything to sources.list |
| 01:16.49 | streuner | Ronin: the last i asked told me the same, but he has an air-condition :-) |
| 01:16.49 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: Did you look at menu.lst and the line where the kernel is loaded? Did you specify a different drive? |
| 01:16.50 | aeolus | *IRC |
| 01:16.52 | EmleyMoor | "No such partition" |
| 01:16.55 | Ronin | EmleyMoor: did you install windows recently by any chance? |
| 01:17.01 | abrotman | zepeuga: i understand that .. but your only hope is the binary non-free drivers from ATI .. so ask #ati |
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| 01:17.21 | EmleyMoor | JordiGH: Yes - and changed it appropriately as far as I can tell |
| 01:17.24 | JordiGH | EmleyMoor: Can DSL see your hard drive? |
| 01:17.25 | c|int | The Debian System Concepts and Techniques (No Starch Press) Sep 2005 |
| 01:17.25 | EmleyMoor | Ronin: No |
| 01:17.30 | EmleyMoor | JordiGH: Yes |
| 01:17.31 | JordiGH | Oh, it can. |
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| 01:17.38 | c|int | :) |
| 01:17.46 | plopa_ | !tell plopa about rm -rf |
| 01:17.48 | plopa_ | !tell plopa about 'rm -rf' |
| 01:17.54 | c|int | its looking really nice.. compared to even when I orderd. Debian 3.1 GNU linux |
| 01:17.55 | abrotman | plopa_: stop |
| 01:17.59 | c|int | the Bible |
| 01:18.09 | imme-emosol | Is deian hard to configure for a noob? |
| 01:18.12 | plopa_ | abrotman: ? |
| 01:18.16 | c|int | its not so bad |
| 01:18.17 | Ronin | imme-emosol: not really |
| 01:18.21 | streuner | imme-emosol: nope |
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| 01:18.27 | JordiGH | imme-emosol: Reputedly, yes, but depends on the n00b and the configuration desired. :-) |
| 01:18.32 | Ronin | EmleyMoor: interesting everything i see about error 22 and grub points to windows |
| 01:18.36 | c|int | well for a noob.. reading is good.. and I been using and working with linux as well, other than other systems. since spring of 2004 |
| 01:18.36 | imme-emosol | :) |
| 01:18.40 | GeorgeS069 | imme-emosol depends on your hardware |
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| 01:18.53 | imme-emosol | pentium 1, want to run a web-server, apache |
| 01:18.54 | imme-emosol | geneweb |
| 01:18.57 | c|int | debian gives you a really nice, stable fast, linux system to build on top of |
| 01:18.58 | streuner | imme-emosol: most problems are with videocards, but you configure it easily nowadays |
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| 01:19.12 | c|int | VMware is going run awesome. with my xfs file system.. :) |
| 01:19.29 | Ronin | aeolus: back away get your own beer |
| 01:19.36 | GeorgeS069 | imme-emosol a P1 should setup fairly easily |
| 01:19.38 | c|int | hey guys, I was wondering.. is xorg easy to install and configure, on debian 3.1 latest build.. and also to get xgl on? |
| 01:19.40 | xam | !beer |
| 01:19.40 | dpkg | i guess beer is liquid gold mate |
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| 01:19.52 | Ronin | indeed dpkg indeed |
| 01:19.56 | c|int | I know the books I got. should help me plenty, I was just wondering :) |
| 01:19.58 | abrotman | c|int: if you want xgl on debian .. you're on your own |
| 01:20.01 | xam | !beer xam |
| 01:20.06 | c|int | hee |
| 01:20.11 | Ronin | aeolus: i thought you said beer? now swill |
| 01:20.14 | c|int | well, glad i got the books :) |
| 01:20.19 | imme-emosol | GeorgeS069: how about 2 videocards, will that give trouble? |
| 01:20.22 | Ronin | streuner: fedex me some of that |
| 01:20.22 | EmleyMoor | I changed all references to hda2 in menu.lst to hda3 and did update-grub (chrooted) |
| 01:20.29 | xam | dpkg: thanks, one of my favouries ... |
| 01:20.29 | dpkg | de nada, xam |
| 01:20.36 | evilgeek | franziskaner is not swill! |
| 01:20.44 | GeorgeS069 | imme-emosol I have no experience with setting up 2 video cards |
| 01:20.46 | aeolus | He was referring to my coors! |
| 01:20.48 | imme-emosol | frnziskaner is juch |
| 01:20.49 | evilgeek | it may not be the best hefe on the planet, but it's far from swill. |
| 01:20.59 | imme-emosol | GeorgeS069: k, thnX. |
| 01:21.06 | c|int | I know I"ll have to get.. xorg on.. I was testing.. testing/unstable, and I did alot good for my laptop.. even with.. getting my wide screen resolution on it.. 1280x800, but had to have. Xorg, which I Did, and give it the i810 driver, for my driver :) |
| 01:21.06 | aeolus | Coors began as a local beer here in Colorado |
| 01:21.09 | EmleyMoor | Should that have worked? |
| 01:21.12 | Ronin | coors is without a doubt swill :) and i meant that in the best was possible |
| 01:21.21 | evilgeek | aeolus: coors blue moon white? |
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| 01:21.37 | aeolus | Nope, I'm drinking Original Coors "Banquet Beer" |
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| 01:21.52 | GeorgeS069 | imme-emosol I would suggest you setup the system with just 1 video card for now and get everything working....then work on adding the 2nd card after ALOT of reading about multi-headed systems |
| 01:22.14 | streuner | Ronin: wine-over-TCP? ;-) well, any idea how much 1 kilogram costs to ship? |
| 01:22.19 | imme-emosol | Hm okay bummer. :) |
| 01:22.33 | streuner | Ronin: (oversea) |
| 01:22.41 | Ronin | streuner: i was thinking fedex actually, send to it my work, its govt address theyll never know |
| 01:22.41 | aeolus | I could call myself Coors if I wanted to. |
| 01:22.52 | aeolus | (here in IRC) |
| 01:23.07 | brianski | i can drag and drop and everything, copy buffers are shared, etc. |
| 01:23.10 | rustifer | abrotman: this page http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=462310 suggests I do: badger:/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers# ln -s $(locate fglrx_drv) |
| 01:23.17 | rustifer | so :) trying that. |
| 01:23.27 | abrotman | ok |
| 01:23.30 | Ronin | aeolus: call yourself whateveryou want but dont call coors/bud good beer hah |
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| 01:23.35 | abrotman | rustifer: wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 01:23.39 | dvs | Ronin: right on |
| 01:23.41 | EmleyMoor | STILL error 22 (!) |
| 01:24.03 | c|int | this is some books I recently got.. and I have alot of others as well, thats what i need to be doing alot of . readin g and applying ,, which I do. just busy alot with.. editing..systems.. Wine, CodeWeavers.. Cedega.. VMware, etc, http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/modules/products/product_offers.php/mode/Books/ASIN/1593270690/cond/used |
| 01:24.12 | c|int | anyone check that book out? |
| 01:24.27 | evilgeek | Ronin: coors produced a few good beers, including the aforementioned coors blue moon white. |
| 01:24.37 | evilgeek | but yeah, i should stop talking about beer. |
| 01:24.49 | aeolus | Meh. Too much beer here. |
| 01:24.56 | abrotman | c|int: many people im' sure .. it was written by a DD |
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| 01:25.04 | Ronin | aeolus: not possible to have too much beer |
| 01:25.17 | aeolus | In #debian it is. |
| 01:25.22 | aeolus | Apparently. |
| 01:25.26 | c|int | I was also at barnes, and I had to get these books too... really awesome.. just can't wait to get alot of information from them, (Security - McGraw-Hill) Hack Notes. Linux and Unix Security. Portable Reference, & Linux Desktop Hacks 2005 , I also need to get the LInux MUltimedia Hacks, thats cool as heck |
| 01:25.30 | borisko | are printer drivers in debian packages? |
| 01:25.37 | c|int | cool abchirk |
| 01:25.37 | streuner | yes |
| 01:25.38 | c|int | abrotman: |
| 01:25.57 | streuner | borisko: check out linuxprinting.org first |
| 01:26.06 | thingfish | !beer Ronin |
| 01:26.12 | streuner | !wine Ronin |
| 01:26.14 | aeolus | abrotman: Do you contribute code to any Linux projects |
| 01:26.18 | Ronin | why thank you one and all |
| 01:26.24 | c|int | so. you can see an IT. like myself, going far.. I plan to develop/program an A.I linux system, with advance Voice Recognition, a system that you can interact with.. and it will perform commands for you. etc and more |
| 01:26.27 | thingfish | bah bordeaux |
| 01:26.35 | abrotman | aeolus: i used to |
| 01:26.38 | EmleyMoor | Does dpkg do !tea? |
| 01:26.53 | thingfish | burgundy is where it's at |
| 01:26.53 | Ronin | thingfish: hey ill give the real stuff a shot, compared to what we get sent here in canada |
| 01:26.53 | aeolus | abrotman: What did you contribute? |
| 01:26.54 | c|int | ? |
| 01:26.56 | abrotman | aeolus: code .. duh |
| 01:26.59 | Ronin | heh |
| 01:27.03 | abrotman | aeolus: and it doesn't matter .. it's not relevant |
| 01:27.07 | aeolus | Oh. |
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| 01:27.21 | abrotman | aeolus: really .. if you have nothing Debian related to say .. please move on |
| 01:27.22 | borisko | streuner: ok, thks, but if they are in debian packages, why do i have to go to linuxprinting.org? |
| 01:27.31 | c|int | abrotman: . what would be a nice.. binary, I can grab.. for debian stable. but also have.. nice acpi support. and especially because I liked the acpi support debian testing/unstable had for my laptop.. Acer Aspire 3610 |
| 01:27.36 | c|int | and also. the xorg.. :) |
| 01:27.45 | thingfish | aeolus: human spoken, or computer? |
| 01:27.48 | streuner | borisko: well, they have some trics and tips too, it doesn't hurt ;-) |
| 01:27.59 | c|int | I also, am on my workstation , and I want to get it running debian, and get my nivida all hooked up nicely and the xgl too and xorg :) |
| 01:28.03 | abrotman | !tell c|int about backports |
| 01:28.05 | aeolus | thingfish: computer programming |
| 01:28.12 | c|int | yeah, I seen that stuff, |
| 01:28.31 | c|int | thanks |
| 01:28.45 | sparr | I have a yaffs filesystem .img, but no yaffs support in my kernel. I apparently dont even have the option to build a yaffs module for my kernel. What tools can I use to mount or extract that image, then rebuild it later? |
| 01:28.53 | c|int | but, with the will, it has to be possible to get .. and go from Xfree86, to xorg, and also to get xgl up and going on debian |
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| 01:29.14 | c|int | I have seen alot of people. showing there systems off, on video.google, and at conventions |
| 01:29.18 | thingfish | aeolus: probably C then. lots of stuff is written in C. I'm not a coder myself, but I know C is real popular. |
| 01:29.23 | GeorgeS069 | hi folks...had a problem with dovecot so I apt-get remove'd it and removed the .conf files and dir for it in /etc/ and now when I apt-get install dovecot it won't setup the .conf files in /etc/...what am I doing wrong? |
| 01:29.34 | streuner | borisko: plus in debian printer drivers are packaged in different packages... |
| 01:29.38 | aeolus | I got Kernighan and Ritchie around somewhere's... |
| 01:29.43 | abrotman | !tell GeorgeS069 about confmiss |
| 01:29.55 | borisko | streuner: i would think installing the driver thro' apt is all is needed, isn't it? right now, i want to know how the drivers packages are named, are they prefix by the vendor name? |
| 01:30.04 | EmleyMoor | When I try to install-grub, I get /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly |
| 01:30.19 | abrotman | GeorgeS069: don't forget about dovecot-common |
| 01:30.23 | GeorgeS069 | abrotman : cool...thanks! |
| 01:30.44 | streuner | borisko: no, just check out at linuxprinting.org what driver you need for your printer... |
| 01:30.49 | GeorgeS069 | I knew there was something I could do to fix it....forgot the command |
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| 01:34.20 | topher | im setting up a linux software to run an old version of the realplayer server (we can't afford to upgrade and already offer icecast streams) but our copy requires the old libc5. i see that debian still has libc5 has an option. this is true, right? or is this page old? page: http://packages.debian.org/stable/oldlibs/libc5 |
| 01:34.25 | topher | *linux server |
| 01:36.09 | abrotman | try it! |
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| 01:37.18 | topher | abrotman: ive set aside tonight to see for sure! :) ill let you guys know how it goes. im glad debian stable offers libc5 compatibilty. i know it's largely not needed but when you run into ugly commercial software, sometimes there's no way around it! (matlab has the same problem, at least, the one released in 2002 or so) |
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| 01:37.37 | abrotman | topher: no other way to stream stuff ? |
| 01:38.25 | topher | abrotman: we do use the excellent icecast for aac, mp3 and vorbis streams (it's for a community radio station) but honestly, no, there's no easy, free way to stream real player. we have a number of users who want real player as well, so i figured id give it a shot |
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| 01:38.46 | abrotman | topher: weird .. but ok |
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| 01:38.53 | xam | topher: it is still in sarge, but no longer in etch/testing ... IIRC I was able to install it manually on a etch system though |
| 01:39.12 | topher | abrotman: real has that "helix project" "open source" server but it's a load of crap. they disabled everything. it's basically a streaming aac server enclosed in real format; real's "open source" initiative is a joke |
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| 01:39.24 | topher | xam: is sarge the stable debian? |
| 01:39.25 | abrotman | topher: it works for everything non-real :) |
| 01:39.41 | evilgeek | 2.6 means udev, which is almost certainly a lose. |
| 01:39.48 | xam | topher: ... but that was long time ago, I don't know whether it will still work with etch |
| 01:39.50 | dvs | topher: for about another 4 months |
| 01:39.54 | aeolus | udev? |
| 01:39.55 | topher | abrotman: yes, i personally dont even use real player because mp3 is so universal and vorbis is great too but some people .. you know, heh |
| 01:40.16 | evilgeek | udev is yet another attempt to automatically delete things from /dev. |
| 01:40.22 | aeolus | oh. |
| 01:40.23 | topher | dvs: libc5 is only in stable for another 4 months? |
| 01:40.27 | evilgeek | (while retaining a working system.) |
| 01:40.28 | aeolus | !udev |
| 01:40.28 | dpkg | udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.15 in testing and unstable |
| 01:40.31 | xam | topher: yes, sarge is the current stable. Etch will be stable probably at the end of the year (earliest) |
| 01:40.35 | abrotman | topher: no .. the plan is to release etch in 4-5 months |
| 01:40.36 | evilgeek | in my experience, it doesn't work particularly well. |
| 01:40.38 | borisko | streuner: have looked thro' linuxprinting.org. general stuff. i want to install a driver for an apollo printer. how are the drivers orgamised in debian packages, are they prefixed by the vendor's name? |
| 01:40.51 | topher | abrotman: oh, i see. |
| 01:41.57 | xam | topher: as I said, you still might be able to (wanually) install and use the package on a etch system, but there is definitely no support for it in etch |
| 01:42.01 | aeolus | So I should use the 2.4 kernel? |
| 01:42.05 | xam | manually even |
| 01:42.28 | dvs | wanually? Must be over a wireless network? ;-) |
| 01:42.28 | topher | xam: that's alright, i have to download either distribution anyway so i might as well grab stable since it has a libc5 compat package for sure |
| 01:42.40 | topher | dvs: haha |
| 01:43.16 | xam | dvs: well, 'w' and 'm' are so close together on my keyboard ... or perhaps I transform into Elmer Fudd |
| 01:43.34 | evilgeek | to be honest, it really doesn't matter very much which kernel you use. |
| 01:43.38 | borisko | can someone tell me how to search for a printer driver among debian packages? |
| 01:43.46 | abrotman | !search |
| 01:43.46 | dpkg | i guess search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. |
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| 01:44.04 | borisko | i have tried using the printer model name. |
| 01:45.41 | borisko | abrotman: i know about 'apt-cache search'. in my case i am looking for the driver for a particular printer. |
| 01:45.50 | abrotman | i don't own a printer .. |
| 01:45.57 | abrotman | borisko: ask google!@ |
| 01:46.42 | borisko | abrotman: this is specific to debian. i want to install a driver fr a debian package. |
| 01:46.54 | abrotman | it might not be packaged |
| 01:47.14 | borisko | someone told me earlier that it is. |
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| 01:48.17 | borisko | abrotman: next time, if you don't have a solution to offer, just shut the fuck up and go fuck yourself. |
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| 01:48.30 | abrotman | borisko: well . i was just going to help you search .. but oh well |
| 01:48.50 | evilgeek | wow, you weren't even being a dick. |
| 01:48.59 | abrotman | must be something about angst-ridden kids from .sg |
| 01:49.18 | aeolus | I'm angst-ridden, but not from .sg |
| 01:49.38 | abrotman | you're from colorado .. we've seen what your kind can do |
| 01:49.56 | aeolus | OK |
| 01:50.06 | dvs | yeah, especially those South Park people! |
| 01:50.13 | aeolus | Where are you from, abrotman? |
| 01:50.26 | abrotman | .us |
| 01:50.44 | simonrvn | repressive gov'ts eventually make kids really nuts |
| 01:50.49 | aeolus | that dont say alot but meh. |
| 01:51.03 | simonrvn | a lot is 2 words |
| 01:51.12 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:51.22 | aeolus | OK, "that doesn't say a lot, but meh." |
| 01:51.28 | simonrvn | heheh |
| 01:51.42 | simonrvn | aeolus++ # for having a good sense of humour |
| 01:52.13 | aeolus | simonrvn++; # for being a good sport |
| 01:52.27 | simonrvn | :) |
| 01:52.35 | abrotman | now if only that were real karma |
| 01:52.58 | simonrvn | the bots don't grok the "# ..." |
| 01:53.19 | aeolus | abrotman: modded up +3 Insightful |
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| 01:53.32 | abrotman | simonrvn: raseac does |
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| 01:54.22 | mrcoyote | Good Night all see u later maybe ++ |
| 01:54.35 | simonrvn | yeh, i know. wish resiak would have some public RCS ... |
| 01:55.38 | abrotman | simonrvn: uh .. i don't think he did that .. i think it's part of the cvs code now |
| 01:55.53 | simonrvn | oh, yeh? then it probably has it |
| 01:56.01 | abrotman | !simonrvn++# just testing |
| 01:56.06 | simonrvn | @aeolus++ # for having a good sense of humour |
| 01:56.07 | abrotman | guess not |
| 01:56.10 | abrotman | !simonrvn++ # just testing |
| 01:56.14 | simonrvn | @karma aeolus |
| 01:56.14 | ravenbird | aeolus has neutral karma |
| 01:56.18 | simonrvn | nope |
| 01:56.19 | abrotman | dpkg doesn't have it .. oh well |
| 01:56.23 | abrotman | simonrvn: ask resiak |
| 01:56.30 | simonrvn | rb has CVS / svn in it |
| 01:56.34 | abrotman | simonrvn: maybe it's an option ? |
| 01:56.39 | simonrvn | (switched to svn) |
| 01:56.42 | simonrvn | possibly |
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| 01:56.58 | Drakeson | is there a multiverse-like (ala ubuntu) repos in debian? |
| 01:57.35 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 01:57.35 | abrotman | yeah .. |
| 01:57.37 | Drakeson | or where one can get restricted drivers/modules/codecs from |
| 01:57.41 | abrotman | non-free |
| 01:57.43 | simonrvn | oh, non-free |
| 01:57.46 | Drakeson | thanks |
| 01:58.50 | abrotman | Drakeson: there are three main sections .. main, contrib, non-free |
| 01:59.12 | aeolus | Can someone explain the DFSG and how it compares to/contrasts with GPL? |
| 01:59.15 | Drakeson | thanks |
| 01:59.52 | abrotman | aeolus: that's on the website |
| 02:00.04 | abrotman | !dfsg |
| 02:00.04 | dpkg | it has been said that dfsg is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which can be found at http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 02:00.05 | aeolus | k, thanks. |
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| 02:01.47 | aeolus | Open-source/free software is one of the best things to come along in computing, IMO. |
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| 02:04.18 | Nick1 | anyone know where i can read documentation/changes for 2.4.32 without dl'ing the whole tarball? |
| 02:04.39 | abrotman | for the kernel ? |
| 02:04.48 | roberto | What program can I use to burn a UDF data DVD with a single file larger than 4GiB? K3b can't do it. |
| 02:04.53 | Nick1 | abrotman yeah. |
| 02:05.00 | abrotman | Nick1: kernel.org ? |
| 02:05.09 | dvs | roberto: baloney. I use it all the time |
| 02:05.10 | abrotman | Nick1: kerneltrap.org used to have a nice changelog page |
| 02:05.14 | Nick1 | only seem to have tarballs.. |
| 02:05.21 | abrotman | dvs: you can't be trusted .. you're canadian! |
| 02:05.28 | roberto | dvs: K3b gives me the error that it cannot accept files over 4GB. |
| 02:05.29 | Nick1 | not changelog... |
| 02:05.31 | dvs | abrotman: damn right. muhahahaha |
| 02:05.31 | abrotman | http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/ChangeLog-2.4.32 |
| 02:05.33 | Nick1 | changes |
| 02:05.39 | roberto | Sebastian said it was a limitation of mkisofs. |
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| 02:05.54 | Nick1 | abrotman that does me no good. i need changes not changelog. |
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| 02:06.24 | Nick1 | changelog tells me about bugfixes in the kernel, changes gives me minimum versions of dependent tools for compilation. |
| 02:06.28 | c|int | topher. yep |
| 02:06.28 | abrotman | isn't that what the changelog documents ? |
| 02:06.34 | abrotman | Nick1: oh |
| 02:06.41 | abrotman | Nick1: google "browse linux source" |
| 02:06.42 | roberto | dvs: So you use k3b to burn single files that are OVER 4.0GiB in size to a single DVD-5? |
| 02:06.47 | c|int | I probably got to.. compile vlc from source.. on testing/unstable :P |
| 02:06.55 | abrotman | no |
| 02:07.07 | abrotman | !info vlc sid |
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| 02:07.09 | c|int | I tried. getting even sarge package in. wouldn't work :P |
| 02:07.14 | dpkg | vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.5.debian-2 (sid), Packaged size: 6315 kB, Installed size: 15516 kB |
| 02:07.23 | dvs | roberto: What's a DVD-5? A 4.7GB disc? I use it to burn Debian DVD images which are over 4GiB |
| 02:07.52 | roberto | DVD-5's are marketed as 4.7GB, actual capacity ~4.38GiB |
| 02:08.06 | c|int | well abrotman, only reason I used and was wanting to use testing/unstable, is because My ubuntu system, used that too.. but getting vlc on there, wans't a problem.. eh.. and had the xorg, already, and acpi support for my laptop. but.. erm. how easy would it be. to get nvidia drivers. etc.. and xorg on my workstation.. for debian 3.1 rc2 |
| 02:08.21 | roberto | dvs: It doesn't sound like you are burning the image itself to a data DVD with the UDF filesystem. |
| 02:08.25 | abrotman | c|int: vlc is in sarge and in sid |
| 02:08.33 | roberto | It sounds like you are burning the image to a DVD? |
| 02:08.34 | c|int | ah |
| 02:08.35 | c|int | I had etch |
| 02:08.50 | roberto | I want to burn this large video file I have to a *data DVD* with the UDF filesystem. |
| 02:08.50 | Nick1 | abrotman: linux kernel souorce navigator? misconfigured. error 403. |
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| 02:09.00 | roberto | What program can I use to do that? |
| 02:09.00 | abrotman | Nick1: eh? |
| 02:09.04 | c|int | what would be a better, stable version of debian for me to use.. well, I better just use.. 3.1.. because of the books.. for an IT< but I want acpi support etc.. xorg. and xgl |
| 02:09.10 | dvs | roberto: Yes, I'm burning an image to DVD. What are you trying to do? Burn an image you made yourself? |
| 02:09.12 | c|int | and wireless for laptop. thats not asking a whole lot :) |
| 02:09.22 | abrotman | http://lxr.linux.no/source/?v=2.4.28 |
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| 02:09.44 | roberto | dvs: I'm trying to burn a FILE that's OVER 4.0GiB to a DATA DVD with the UDF filesystem. |
| 02:09.53 | roberto | What program can accomplish this, because k3b can;t do it. |
| 02:10.33 | dvs | roberto: Oh, so there's a filesystem on the DVD already and you're trying to copy a file to it? |
| 02:10.37 | jetscreamer | growisofs -Z maybe |
| 02:10.56 | c|int | hey.. anyway to purge. etc.. or stop kde from installing. lets say if I do.. a debian 3.1 net install, or binary cd.. etc.. rc2 etc.. |
| 02:10.59 | roberto | No, the DVD-5 is blank. I want to create the UDF filesystem on it and put this ~4.2GiB file on it. |
| 02:11.13 | c|int | I like.. gnome, and fluxbox. so stable to me :) |
| 02:11.31 | c|int | I used to use KDE< but havn't . but I can.. also want to say.. upgrade KDE< and gnome.. if I choose :) |
| 02:11.44 | c|int | sorry, I just need to read :P |
| 02:12.01 | dvs | roberto: oh, so you're trying to create a DVD image file and put this file on it. I've never done that so I can't help. |
| 02:12.13 | roberto | heh, no |
| 02:12.35 | Nick1 | cool. now'll i'll just find source for sex. |
| 02:12.45 | jetscreamer | !info pornview |
| 02:12.51 | dpkg | pornview: (Image and movie viewer/manager), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.2pre1-6 (sid), Packaged size: 230 kB, Installed size: 668 kB |
| 02:12.56 | c|int | oh thanks abrotman, for that backports informatino, apt etc. you gave me earlier.. |
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| 02:13.06 | abrotman | SEE .. i'm helpful sometimes! |
| 02:13.17 | roberto | Okay so I have a .avi that's 4.2GiB in size on my hard drive. I want to burn this avi to a data DVD. What program can do that? |
| 02:13.20 | c|int | yeP :) |
| 02:13.22 | sng | abrotman: ARE NOT!!! |
| 02:13.28 | c|int | he is |
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| 02:13.32 | sng | Oh wait. |
| 02:13.34 | Nick1 | jetscreamer: no, sex as in the text editor. |
| 02:13.36 | sng | That's me. |
| 02:13.38 | roberto | k3b can't burn files that are ver 4.0GB to a data DVD |
| 02:13.40 | roberto | What can? |
| 02:13.51 | c|int | what would be the best way, me go about , getting. xorg.. xgl , and nvidia drivers on my workstation, and then I got a laptop to do :) |
| 02:13.52 | jetscreamer | man growisofs |
| 02:13.53 | abrotman | sng: i agree |
| 02:13.55 | sng | Sometimes I don't know where abrotman ends and I begin. |
| 02:14.00 | sng | abrotman: :) |
| 02:14.07 | c|int | I know its.. 100% possible |
| 02:14.11 | abrotman | sng: some where around st louis i think |
| 02:14.18 | freeone3000 | c|int: apt-get install xserver-xorg. Install the Nvidia drivers fromt he website. Build xgl from source, probably. |
| 02:14.22 | abrotman | sng: you are a fat fuck! |
| 02:14.25 | dvs | roberto: I'd create an iso file and put the avi on it then burn it to the DVD. |
| 02:14.26 | c|int | ah.. k |
| 02:14.34 | c|int | thanks :) |
| 02:14.57 | c|int | so that would probably as well, fix laptop synaptic touchpad issues, installing xserver-xorg , on my laptop and stuff, and maybe for acpi? |
| 02:15.01 | roberto | dvs: Ah, that might work. That's a silly extra step to get around this bug. |
| 02:15.05 | abrotman | c|int: i told you already .. xgl isn't in debian . .ask #xorg |
| 02:15.06 | roberto | I never had this problem with Nero. |
| 02:15.17 | c|int | but I seen people having xgl on debian systems |
| 02:15.22 | c|int | o.o |
| 02:15.33 | abrotman | yeah .. but it wasn't from debian packages |
| 02:15.46 | c|int | should i just reverse engineer ubuntu how I do with run levels, init scripts. |
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| 02:16.33 | c|int | oh okay.. I'll just build it from source, etc.. then |
| 02:16.36 | xam | okay 'reverse engineer ubuntu' ... and I thought today was already strange enough .... |
| 02:16.43 | c|int | hee :) |
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| 02:16.50 | c|int | well. thats what you do. to make something better. and us IT do |
| 02:16.55 | roberto | dvs: What can I use to create the ISO file though? |
| 02:16.58 | abrotman | xam: and then the gentoo guy enters ... |
| 02:17.04 | c|int | in the concept, us here, in my city do.. :) |
| 02:17.17 | c|int | lol.. I don't just use debian, ubuntu etc :P |
| 02:17.30 | dvs | roberto: I'd use k3b but growisofs would work too. |
| 02:17.39 | xam | really, I need a beer but this fecking coutry doesn't sell alc in the shops after 23:00 ,,, |
| 02:17.54 | dvs | xam: same here |
| 02:17.56 | abrotman | xam: wtf |
| 02:18.17 | abrotman | dvs: considering it's 2300 .. he's probably in your country |
| 02:18.38 | abrotman | erm .. i mean .. he's on atlantic time .. in canada |
| 02:19.01 | predder | !swap |
| 02:19.02 | dpkg | from memory, swap is still a useful and good thing to have, even with lots of available memory: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html |
| 02:19.04 | dvs | abrotman: could be.... Brazil. Aw... who am I kidding. |
| 02:19.50 | xam | abrotman: iresand sucks ... alc is expensive and bars close at 2 ... and smoking is not allowed anywhere ... a nanny state ... but heh, just found my friend's secret stockpile of cider! |
| 02:19.51 | abrotman | you can't buy been in .ca after 11pm? except in a bar? |
| 02:19.58 | xam | ireland |
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| 02:20.05 | abrotman | oh |
| 02:20.12 | abrotman | so it's not even close to 2300 where xam is |
| 02:20.14 | dvs | !beer me |
| 02:20.19 | roberto | erg, this is a restarted bug =[ |
| 02:20.23 | roberto | *retarded |
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| 02:20.37 | xam | abrotman: yeah, it is 3:20 here |
| 02:21.09 | abrotman | !petemcsmite xam |
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| 02:28.51 | Nick1 | anyone know where to get the source for welcome21? |
| 02:28.58 | xam | abrotman: heh ;) |
| 02:30.08 | Nick1 | nope.. won't work without glibc2.3.2 anyway.. |
| 02:30.52 | abrotman | you could upgrade libc |
| 02:32.03 | Nick1 | abrotman and hose my whole install, just like i did on my intel based machine. |
| 02:32.13 | abrotman | wtf is running on this machine? |
| 02:32.24 | Nick1 | nothing yet. |
| 02:32.35 | Nick1 | i'm still getting it up to speed. |
| 02:32.51 | abrotman | wait .. so you have a slackware libc 2.1 box .. that you won't upgrade because .. there's nothing on it ? |
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| 02:33.36 | c|int | whats a good version of debian for me to get .. rc2 .. etc |
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| 02:33.50 | Nick1 | no, see, last time i tried upgrading from glibc 2.1.3 i completely hosed my install. ls wouldn't even work, the machine was just short of not booting |
| 02:34.21 | abrotman | so do a fresh install ? |
| 02:34.44 | Nick1 | abrotman doesn't exist. |
| 02:34.57 | abrotman | i do too! |
| 02:35.14 | Guerin | he does! |
| 02:35.17 | Guerin | cakes know this |
| 02:35.18 | Nick1 | i've got the newest stuff hanging around for slackware alpha on that box. |
| 02:35.25 | Guerin | he sits on them, and they become squashed |
| 02:35.32 | abrotman | they attack me! |
| 02:35.45 | Guerin | abrotman: sticking to your arse isn't an attack |
| 02:35.56 | Guerin | at least I get attacked by cool things like gravity |
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| 02:36.14 | abrotman | better than lipstick i guess |
| 02:36.18 | Guerin | yeah |
| 02:36.25 | abrotman | or meatloaf |
| 02:36.28 | Guerin | lipstick on your arse would require some explanation |
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| 02:36.55 | abrotman | she better be really cute |
| 02:37.08 | Guerin | raaw, back to skool I go! |
| 02:37.20 | Nick1 | abrotman: even though they say it can be done in the glibc source, upgrading glibc just doesn't seem to work. |
| 02:37.24 | tvn | how do I check what package owns a specific file ? |
| 02:37.30 | abrotman | dpkg -S |
| 02:37.51 | abrotman | Nick1: i vote for a clean install! :) |
| 02:38.11 | xam | Nick1: what kind of alpha do you have? |
| 02:38.17 | Nick1 | abrotman: if slack 10.2 ran on alpha i'd install it |
| 02:38.36 | Nick1 | this particular one is a server 3000 |
| 02:38.36 | abrotman | debian 3.1 will work just fine |
| 02:38.55 | Nick1 | abrotman: no, it won't. it's debian. |
| 02:39.05 | c|int | can you give me good link.. on latest.. |
| 02:39.20 | xam | Nick1: just upgraded my as500/500 yesterday for the first time in a year ... no problem with debian ;) |
| 02:39.26 | abrotman | Nick1: you don't seem to mind our help though ... |
| 02:39.30 | Nick1 | abrotman: this is actually my experiment on getting rid of debian on all my alphas. |
| 02:39.47 | Nick1 | knowledge is distro independednt |
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| 02:40.10 | abrotman | i'm not buying it .. noone would "experiment" with a libc2.1 based distro unless they have brain damage |
| 02:40.44 | Nick1 | abrotman: I"ve been running slack for a long time. I've run debian for better than a year on my other 164, and it did not do much but anger me. |
| 02:41.20 | abrotman | works fine for me! :) |
| 02:41.28 | abrotman | and very well |
| 02:41.32 | Nick1 | abrotman: i wouldn't mind a new glibc, but for some reason last time i did that on a slack 8.0 box, i installed it and all of a sudden all my applications quit |
| 02:41.46 | abrotman | so install debian |
| 02:42.18 | Nick1 | that may be, but i don't like the package system, it may make some things easier, but it has it's troubles for everyday use as well. |
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| 02:42.33 | abrotman | uh .. no |
| 02:42.41 | Nick1 | it'll foul up on a package, and keep trying to install it... |
| 02:43.00 | abrotman | so come here and ask us for help with that instead of asking how to fix your busted slack install |
| 02:43.10 | Nick1 | i still haven't ever got any of the compaq utilities to run... |
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| 02:44.00 | Nick1 | the bootscripts.. I don't like them. slackware has much saner bootscripts )except for the system maintenance mode part) |
| 02:44.20 | abrotman | so go to #slackware |
| 02:44.54 | Nick1 | noone there seems to actually know anything right now. |
| 02:44.58 | zebalin4 | When are screen fonts loaded? At reboot by kernel, or later on at (re) start of KDE? |
| 02:45.22 | Nick1 | infact, it seems irc is kind of sparse on people from what it has been... |
| 02:45.49 | abrotman | maybe because noone has run that crap in five years? |
| 02:45.52 | enouf | Nick1 : you mean Comcrud? No wonder you're pissed |
| 02:46.04 | xam | zebalin4: screen fonts? do you mean those used by X11? you can reload them while X is running |
| 02:47.24 | zebalin4 | xam: I use FreeSans as my screen font. I downloaded a new version. How do I get it in use by KDE? Restart KDE and X (ctl-alt-bkspace) or reboot computer? |
| 02:47.49 | Nick1 | abrotman: anything I run linux on, I generally run slackware. I tried NetBSD for alpha, before going to debian. I've run debian for better than two years on my 21066, and better than a year on my other 164, and the package management really caused some big problems. |
| 02:48.04 | Nick1 | NetBSD really sucked bad... |
| 02:48.06 | enouf | zebalin4: AFAIK, K Control Center | System Admin | Install Fonts (or somesuch) |
| 02:48.15 | zebalin4 | xam: I did an apt-get install ttf-freesans (or something like that.) |
| 02:48.22 | Nick1 | it was completely unusable... |
| 02:48.31 | xam | zebralin4: you'll never have to restart the PC, unless you upgrade the kernel, kernel modules or kernel related services like udev |
| 02:48.47 | zebalin4 | I used synaptic to get the current version of the font. Don't I have to restart X to get it to be used? |
| 02:48.51 | abrotman | Nick1: i suspect you're not working with dpkg/apt .. but against it .. which is probably due to your inexperience with a decent packaging system |
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| 02:49.11 | enouf | zebalin4: Likely yes: just restart the session is all |
| 02:49.17 | xam | zebalin4:try 'xset fp rehash' |
| 02:49.49 | xam | zebalin4: else restarting X11/KDE should be enough |
| 02:49.52 | zebalin4 | enouf: won't ctl-alt-blkspace restart X session (and KDE)? |
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| 02:50.09 | Nick1 | I really did my best to get along with it.. but wqhen you have something that does braindead things like install xdm, then uninstalls x-window-system when you uninstall xdm.... |
| 02:50.11 | enouf | Nick1 : NetBSD, what did you use it for? expect it to do for you? |
| 02:50.17 | zebalin4 | enouf: or does it just restart KDE and not X? |
| 02:50.20 | abrotman | Nick1: i'm not trying to cut you down .. but most of the people that complain about apt/dpkg usually didn't have the patience to learn it |
| 02:50.41 | enouf | zebalin4: it'll restart X which KDE relies upon |
| 02:50.42 | Nick1 | enouf: just an everyday knockaround desktop. |
| 02:50.45 | xam | zebalin4: yes, it will restart X (and KDE etc) |
| 02:50.47 | abrotman | Nick1: that's exactly what i mean .. x-window-system is a metapackage .. and your system won't miss it .. but you never asked anyone here .. so you didn'tk now |
| 02:50.50 | abrotman | didn't know |
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| 02:51.09 | Nick1 | well, when it was done xserver-xfree86 was gone.. |
| 02:51.21 | abrotman | then you did something else |
| 02:51.23 | zebalin4 | xam: someone told me that the only sure way to restart X is to go to root and enter init 3 or something similar. |
| 02:51.24 | Nick1 | i had no frickin X. startx didn't even exist |
| 02:51.30 | predder | are hyphens allowed in drive mount points? I want to create a partition /var/mysql-cluster |
| 02:51.33 | xam | zebalin4: hahahahhaa |
| 02:51.48 | Nick1 | I admit, dpkg did a good job of deleting everything |
| 02:52.18 | zebalin4 | In kanotix init 3 will stop X and init 5 will start it up again. I forget what it is in Etch (I run them both) |
| 02:52.20 | abrotman | even x-window-system-core depends on xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:52.28 | enouf | Nick1 : NetBSD is specifically designed for ?? I dunno, I haven't been there yet -- but I'm sure it's got Networking down to a science |
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| 02:52.42 | Nick1 | it handles dependencies annoyingly well. |
| 02:53.01 | abrotman | they're dependencies for a reason |
| 02:53.02 | Nick1 | enouf: yeah right.. you have to twiddle with a new install to even get it to boot multiuser.... |
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| 02:53.08 | enouf | zebalin4: Debian default runlevel is 2 and you need to know that |
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| 02:53.18 | abrotman | enouf: portability |
| 02:53.33 | enouf | abrotman: as in POSIX? |
| 02:53.38 | abrotman | enouf: netbsd runs on your mom's hair curlers |
| 02:54.00 | abrotman | http://netbsd.org/Ports/ |
| 02:54.06 | enouf | abrotman: and in your mum's tin foil hat ? :P |
| 02:54.19 | abrotman | enouf: her hat has no power .. wtf is wrong with you |
| 02:54.30 | zebalin4 | enouf: Kanotix reworked the boot scripts. I think I remember that Debian loads X on all of the different run levels? No. That can't be right. |
| 02:54.32 | Nick1 | abrotman: i like the manual and minimal nature of slack. you have no idea how relieved I was when slack installed so easily on that machine |
| 02:54.33 | enouf | Thanks for the link -- whoops -- apologies :) |
| 02:54.50 | abrotman | Nick1: i still think your failure with debian was a pebkac |
| 02:54.58 | Nick1 | openbsd for alpha last i heard was unmaintained... |
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| 02:55.17 | Nick1 | abrotman how about the screwy compiler they never fixed? |
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| 02:55.31 | abrotman | Nick1: nice and vague .. good job |
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| 02:55.49 | zebalin4 | Nick1: I have Slackware on an old lappy. It's crap compared to the modern Debian distros, IMO. |
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| 02:56.01 | enouf | zebalin4: Kanotix (Knoppix w/KDE), Gnoppix (Knoppix w/GNOME), U|K|Xubuntu, etc are all Debian BASED, but they are NOT Pure Debian |
| 02:56.38 | Nick1 | abrotman: there was a major 64 bit bug in gcc 2.95.3 (i think) it broke javascript math in firefox for one thing.... |
| 02:56.45 | zebalin4 | enouf: I know. I used to run Etch most of the time, but these days I spend more time in Kanotix. Not much difference to be honest. |
| 02:56.55 | enouf | abrotman: the Tylenol w/Codiene and the Bicardi and coke must be getting to me :-) |
| 02:57.02 | abrotman | Nick1: javascript is broken :) |
| 02:57.08 | abrotman | enouf: perhaps |
| 02:57.23 | enouf | Takes a break for a refill ... ^_^ |
| 02:57.27 | abrotman | enouf: last i checked .. you weren't supposed to mix those |
| 02:57.43 | Nick1 | zebalin4: i've run slack since 3.5, and I have my gripes about it too... but i don't find it as uncomfortable as i do debian |
| 02:57.43 | abrotman | Nick1: you ship me the system .. i'll ship it back installed :) |
| 02:58.20 | abrotman | Nick1: and gcc3 is in sarge .. |
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| 02:58.40 | Nick1 | yeah, but with debian, i don't particularly want another debian box. i already have two. |
| 02:58.45 | ApTek | su |
| 02:58.46 | ApTek | whoops |
| 02:58.53 | cplx | 'two' |
| 02:58.54 | cplx | lol |
| 02:58.54 | cplx | :D |
| 02:58.58 | zebalin4 | Nick1: there is a certain minimilist charm to Slack, and if you have the time and interest to fiddle with it when you get a new scanner or or some other new piece of hardware, great. Debian is more user friendly to me. |
| 02:58.59 | abrotman | ApTek: Password: |
| 02:59.19 | enouf | abrotman: It's alright for me -- I'm taking it s-l-o-w ...and in small doses -- plus I'm HUGE ;-) |
| 02:59.24 | Nick1 | the server 3300 is my experiment in seeing just how close to 10.2 I can bring it. |
| 02:59.26 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:59.32 | ApTek | abrotman: s3cr3t |
| 02:59.46 | Nick1 | then i package it all up, and install my other two with it. |
| 02:59.53 | enouf | abrotman: had an accident earlier today -- 17 stiches |
| 02:59.54 | abrotman | ApTek: Last Login: Oct 24th 1923 08:23AM |
| 02:59.55 | zebalin4 | Nick1: I find the Slack (non) package system to be archaic. |
| 03:00.04 | abrotman | enouf: ew |
| 03:00.21 | Nick1 | zebalin4: you should have seen some of the things i've made slackware do... |
| 03:00.21 | enouf | abrotman: All on my left middle finger |
| 03:00.25 | xam | enouf: you or the other guy? |
| 03:00.35 | abrotman | enouf: i've heard this joke before |
| 03:00.40 | enouf | xam: come again? |
| 03:00.44 | Nick1 | zebalin4: and one hundred percent standard... |
| 03:00.53 | enouf | No friggin Joke!! |
| 03:01.12 | Nick1 | zebalin4: it's all blood simple. |
| 03:01.12 | zebalin4 | Nick1: if Slack had a deb-like, slam-dunk, idiot-proof, GUI friendly (Syanpatic) pkg manager it would be a great distro. But I find it just mediocre these days. |
| 03:01.12 | abrotman | standard? |
| 03:01.24 | enouf | I did it with a sheetrock knife while wittling at coping crown moulding |
| 03:01.27 | abrotman | slackware is dying! |
| 03:01.55 | abrotman | enouf: uh ... |
| 03:01.55 | Nick1 | abrotman: it's just a tarball and a shellscript... doesn't depend on anything, doesn't need a seperate program to run it... |
| 03:02.07 | zebalin4 | Slack has a hard-core group of users but I don't see it attracting many new users these days. |
| 03:02.19 | abrotman | Nick1: excpet .. tar? |
| 03:02.24 | zebalin4 | I think of it as the best distro 1997 has to offer!! |
| 03:02.25 | Nick1 | iand don't get me started on redhat... |
| 03:02.31 | abrotman | Nick1: you know a debian package is an 'ar' archive right? |
| 03:02.35 | enouf | I can see how it could be taken as the premise to a punchline --- but I assure you = no joke -- enough about me - back onto others' topics |
| 03:03.06 | abrotman | Nick1: if you wanted to manually extract a .deb .. you need ar and tar |
| 03:03.10 | abrotman | oh .. and gzip |
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| 03:03.30 | Nick1 | tttrue, but all of the other machinery that's built to make ttem usable is really... bulky. |
| 03:03.38 | enouf | zebalin4: Waht exactly was the issue agian? |
| 03:03.43 | abrotman | yeah ... actually having dependencies sucks .. |
| 03:03.46 | Nick1 | like i said.. i still haven't been able to get ccc to work.. |
| 03:03.55 | abrotman | Nick1: which version of debian? woody? |
| 03:03.56 | zebalin4 | enouf: I forget! |
| 03:04.04 | Nick1 | 3.0 I think... |
| 03:04.08 | abrotman | right .. try sarge |
| 03:04.11 | enouf | Restarting KDE or X for Fonts |
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| 03:04.28 | enouf | I ain't that drunk yet ;-) |
| 03:04.28 | abrotman | of course .. you won't because you'd rather spend three months making slackware suck.. slightly less |
| 03:04.52 | zebalin4 | enouf: oh yes. People seem to be divided on how to stop and start X. Some say ctl-alt-bkspace will do it. Others say it won't... only starts KDE. |
| 03:04.58 | enouf | Do you use Konq??? and if so do you have the K Control Center? |
| 03:05.05 | Nick1 | abrotman: once i get it done once the next two times are cake. |
| 03:05.18 | enouf | ctrl+alt+backspace WILL restart X |
| 03:05.24 | zebalin4 | I have K control ctr. |
| 03:05.35 | abrotman | Nick1: you could upgrade your debian boxes to sarge ... |
| 03:05.50 | enouf | BUT -- it'll likely resatart the session to your k/x/gdm |
| 03:05.53 | zebalin4 | I thought it would, but some say no. Not a big deal. I take your word for it. |
| 03:05.58 | abrotman | !tel Nick1 about woody->sarge |
| 03:06.04 | enouf | IF -- you have it setup that way |
| 03:06.08 | abrotman | did the bot die? |
| 03:06.14 | abrotman | eh .. wtf |
| 03:06.21 | abrotman | !tell Nick1 about woody->sarge |
| 03:06.23 | zebalin4 | abrotman: tell? |
| 03:06.24 | abrotman | yay |
| 03:06.28 | abrotman | zebalin4: i saw :) |
| 03:06.33 | zebalin4 | beep! |
| 03:06.37 | enouf | zebalin4: I'm running KDE now - should I do it for ya ? |
| 03:06.43 | abrotman | BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP |
| 03:06.53 | zebalin4 | enouf: no. I was just interested. I believe you. |
| 03:07.03 | predder | !sarge 2.6.16 |
| 03:07.03 | dpkg | if you want to run a 2.6.16 kernel on debian sarge, first follow the instructions on http://backports.org/instructions.html then "aptitude update ; apt-get -t sarge-backports install grub udev initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-$arch" where $arch is one of 486 686 k7. also ask me about <bpo>, or for a sarge 2.6.16 installer see http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2616.htm |
| 03:07.05 | abrotman | eh .. hopefully i get home in time tomorrow to do something productive :) |
| 03:07.12 | abrotman | predder: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.16 |
| 03:07.28 | Nick1 | i'll prolly end up with another new, screwy bug like the b0rked compiler...or the X that refuses to run my fireGL 3000 pro.. |
| 03:07.42 | abrotman | sarge has X3.3.6 and 4.4-ish |
| 03:07.45 | zebalin4 | What's the state of Sid these days? I hear that cups is borked??? |
| 03:07.48 | enouf | zebalin4: Pastebin the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or XF86Config-4) file somewhere |
| 03:07.54 | abrotman | zebalin4: /topic .. see the Status page |
| 03:08.30 | enouf | !paster |
| 03:08.30 | dpkg | from memory, pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 03:08.43 | sparr | how can i write a script to modify my PATH? |
| 03:09.06 | enouf | sparr: 1st echo $PATH ? |
| 03:09.16 | sparr | enouf: and? |
| 03:09.16 | abrotman | export PATH=$PATH:<newpath> |
| 03:09.25 | sparr | abrotman: that doesnt seem to survive the ending of the script |
| 03:09.32 | SuperCouilles | I need help setting up a VNC server. Anyone to help? |
| 03:09.34 | zebalin4 | abrotman: I see. no mention of cups. I guess it is fixed. I hear that some deb-based distros are waiting on cups to settle before they release a new ver. |
| 03:09.37 | abrotman | sparr: why would it? |
| 03:09.40 | enouf | sparr: What dio you want your PATH to be? and more importantly WHEN? |
| 03:09.49 | sparr | abrotman: so, back to square 1... |
| 03:09.53 | enouf | sparr: Global or Env Variable |
| 03:09.57 | abrotman | sparr: put it in your profile |
| 03:10.02 | sparr | enouf: something. forever. |
| 03:10.07 | sparr | abrotman: i dont always want it |
| 03:10.22 | enouf | sparr: I'll let abrotman take over... |
| 03:10.28 | abrotman | sparr: write an alias instead |
| 03:10.40 | sparr | err, an alias for what? |
| 03:10.43 | abrotman | to do it |
| 03:10.51 | sparr | ahh, interesting idea |
| 03:10.57 | abrotman | no kidding |
| 03:11.08 | abrotman | no more slackware! \o/ |
| 03:11.40 | enouf | sparr: edit /.bashrc or like abrotman says -- insert an Alias -- depending upon what your need are |
| 03:12.17 | enouf | sparr: doh! s/.bashrc/~./bashrc |
| 03:12.39 | enouf | sparr: doubledoh! ~/.bashrc |
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| 03:12.47 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:13.18 | enouf | abrotman: Lol ... |
| 03:13.32 | sparr | is there a command line ftp client that will run noninteractively? something like scp |
| 03:13.51 | enouf | sparr: sure |
| 03:15.30 | enouf | sparr: 'apt-cache search scp' -- openssh-client ? |
| 03:15.45 | abrotman | ftp client? |
| 03:15.57 | enouf | sparr: 'apt-cache search scp' -- putty-tools ? |
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| 03:16.39 | sparr | enouf: those have ftp clients? |
| 03:16.44 | sparr | abrotman: yes |
| 03:16.46 | bd_ | that's... sftp? |
| 03:16.58 | bd_ | wxcept |
| 03:16.59 | bd_ | not FTP :p |
| 03:17.00 | abrotman | sparr: i wasn't asking you .. i was asking enouf |
| 03:17.05 | enouf | sparr: I'm not sure - just trying to help |
| 03:17.07 | sparr | bd_: sftp can run noninteractively? the first sentence of the man page disagrees |
| 03:17.11 | bd_ | sparr: Do you need upload, or just download? |
| 03:17.13 | bd_ | Well |
| 03:17.16 | bd_ | sftp isn't FTP first |
| 03:17.22 | sparr | actually just upload |
| 03:17.23 | bd_ | and if you can use sftp you can usually use scp |
| 03:17.29 | abrotman | lftp? ncftp? |
| 03:17.30 | enouf | goes off -- for another refil ^_^ |
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| 03:17.37 | bd_ | ncftpput |
| 03:17.40 | bd_ | in the ncftp package |
| 03:17.53 | sparr | awesome |
| 03:17.55 | sparr | thanks |
| 03:19.16 | enouf | Thanks bd_ and abrotman ;-) |
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| 03:19.25 | abrotman | ? |
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| 03:20.03 | sng | abrotman: Why don't you suck less? |
| 03:20.09 | enouf | abrotman: for filling in for my ignorance :P |
| 03:20.23 | abrotman | sng: because then i'd be lucky enough to be living in OR .. and who would want that ... |
| 03:20.33 | abrotman | enouf: blame the codiene |
| 03:21.16 | sng | abrotman: Me!!!! |
| 03:21.18 | roberto | Codiene... when it comes to psychoactive antitussives, I far prefer Dextromethorphan Hydrobomide. |
| 03:21.21 | roberto | =] |
| 03:21.23 | enouf | abrotman: Can I certifiably call you a Bozo now - for making a dumbass joke about my injury? |
| 03:21.30 | abrotman | sng: Maine is nice too |
| 03:21.40 | enouf | Back on Topic folks |
| 03:21.42 | abrotman | enouf: everyone else does ... |
| 03:21.48 | enouf | hehehe |
| 03:21.57 | sng | abrotman: It's on the Evil Coast. OR is on the Cool Coast. |
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| 03:22.19 | abrotman | sng: Maine doesn't count ... it's different |
| 03:22.24 | abrotman | yonkeltron: good shabbos! |
| 03:22.30 | sng | abrotman: it's all evil. :) |
| 03:22.43 | abrotman | sng: we have morimotos? :) |
| 03:22.56 | sng | SUSHI!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:23.00 | sng | I'll grant you that. |
| 03:23.06 | abrotman | and susanna foo's |
| 03:23.08 | enouf | sng: how's about the torcherous weather coast? |
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| 03:23.31 | enouf | sng: how's about the s/torcherous/tortuous weather coast? |
| 03:23.34 | sng | abrotman: Dany you! |
| 03:23.43 | sng | Damn even. |
| 03:23.47 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:23.52 | yonkeltron | yayay |
| 03:23.53 | sng | enouf: There is only One True Coast. |
| 03:24.01 | abrotman | ivory coast? |
| 03:24.23 | enouf | awaits with baited breath |
| 03:24.27 | simonrvn | can't blame others for your failings ;) |
| 03:24.32 | sng | I'll ivory ya into the middle of next week. |
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| 03:24.54 | sng | simonrvn: There's a song and everything. What are you going to do. Argue with the song? That's just silly. |
| 03:25.05 | abrotman | !sing blame canada |
| 03:25.06 | dpkg | blame canada, blame canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since canada came along, blame canada, blame canada, they're not even a real country, anyway |
| 03:25.08 | enouf | sng: Rosewood, Mahogany, and mPingo ? |
| 03:25.08 | sng | simonrvn: Long time no see. How's it hanging? |
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| 03:25.20 | abrotman | simonrvn: i didn't know you had six names! |
| 03:25.21 | simonrvn | that's TMI territory |
| 03:25.30 | sng | simonrvn: Coward. :P |
| 03:25.45 | simonrvn | no, in polite company ;) |
| 03:26.00 | sng | Since the fuck when is #debian polite company? :P |
| 03:26.18 | enouf | Fuck you b0z0 -- how's that? |
| 03:26.27 | sng | :) |
| 03:26.49 | sng | Of course I don't even use Debian anymore so who am I to talk, eh? |
| 03:26.51 | abrotman | it's not my fault! |
| 03:27.03 | enouf | AGAIN : awaits with baited breath |
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| 03:27.13 | simonrvn | how's it hanging? left. why? busier than ever as mofo, and damned happy i am. |
| 03:27.24 | abrotman | and when you're not busy .. to the right ? |
| 03:27.39 | simonrvn | no, even when i'm not |
| 03:27.42 | sng | simonrvn: Excellent. :) |
| 03:28.06 | simonrvn | :) |
| 03:28.34 | simonrvn | see you |
| 03:29.18 | enouf | Ok folks -- anyone have a clue as to why 'ifdown' and subsequent 'ifup' would cause the stupid iface to want to wirelessly search for pre-up.d settings ? |
| 03:29.47 | enouf | simonrvn: Takes the bait |
| 03:29.49 | simonrvn | because you installed something you don't need? |
| 03:30.03 | dondelelcaro | enouf: uh... what do you have in pre-up.d? |
| 03:30.18 | enouf | simonrvn: yeah -- but why would it override when there's NO wifi anything here |
| 03:30.39 | enouf | dondelecaro ... hold on please |
| 03:30.53 | simonrvn | because it was written that way, and it's in pre-up.d ... |
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| 03:31.29 | sng | Logic is for lusers. |
| 03:31.55 | simonrvn | logical users? |
| 03:32.08 | xam | simonrvn: logic is not like a large stick, more like a sharp knife ... |
| 03:32.18 | simonrvn | double-edged =) |
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| 03:33.00 | enouf | dondelecaro: for starters see http://paste.debian.net/9684 |
| 03:34.17 | enouf | dondelecaro: deeeper is http://paste.debian.net/9685 |
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| 03:35.27 | enouf | whoops -- apologies dondelecaro for spelling you fsken name wrong :-) |
| 03:35.32 | farous | with alsa-oss modules i have /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 what is the diff and which to use for oss progs |
| 03:35.50 | enouf | whoops -- DOH!!apologies dondelelcaro for spelling you fsken name wrong :-) |
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| 03:37.14 | enouf | dondelelcaro -- BTW running SID -- $ uname -r |
| 03:37.14 | enouf | 2.6.16-2-686 |
| 03:38.17 | enouf | Someone 'kickme' for pasting ;-).... |
| 03:39.39 | enouf | I sincerely hope I did NOT offend anybody with my renegade behavior ....<crawls off into WHITEFISH shell and eats a turtle for repentance> :P |
| 03:39.57 | enouf | Goodnight folks |
| 03:40.47 | xam | simonrvn: stab him!!! |
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| 03:58.29 | vinay | what is the best option these days to do 2 way webcam with a linux client and a windows ? |
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| 04:00.56 | farous | vinay: for me it was qnext. as it depend on java |
| 04:03.50 | vinay | farous: i'll check it out. thanks |
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| 04:05.13 | farous | vinay: goodluck it support audio-visio chat and file sharing. otherwise if you are only looking for video and text chat no audio check amsn as it connects to msn |
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| 04:07.40 | neuro_damage | anybody had any problems where apparently libebook & libecal1.2-dev must be downloaded |
| 04:07.55 | neuro_damage | because i'm having a problem where it says those are required but it will fail on the install for it? |
| 04:08.08 | neuro_damage | should I pastebin ? and then ask if anyone has a solution |
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| 04:09.58 | cougar` | OKay, I need some help. I jsut got home from work after a nice afternoon of troubleshooting why a net address was harassing my machine - Turned out the ip for the net address was the same IP as 1 of my local machines - 192.168.1.3 |
| 04:10.28 | vinay | farous: i just need video.. we use skype for audio .. i'll check amsn out als.. thanks again! |
| 04:10.58 | cougar` | Some people here were gracious enough to help me but I had to run to work - Now I'm trying to change my LAN IP from 192.168.1.x to 192.168.0.x and DHCPD is reporting a problem with my configuration. |
| 04:11.13 | cougar` | Anyone here? |
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| 04:12.22 | cougar` | I jsut got home from work after a nice afternoon of troubleshooting why a net address was harassing my machine - Turned out the ip for the net address was the same IP as 1 of my local machines - 192.168.1.3 |
| 04:12.25 | cougar` | oops |
| 04:13.07 | neuro_damage | cougar`, yeah what's up? |
| 04:13.11 | neuro_damage | what do you want to do? |
| 04:13.17 | neuro_damage | !dpkg help |
| 04:13.36 | cougar` | Hey neuro |
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| 04:26.42 | predder | I was just setting up software raid on a machine using the custom 2.6.16 kernel image dpkg recommended. |
| 04:27.03 | predder | I configured the partitions and selected the type as "physical volume for raid" |
| 04:27.38 | predder | then, when going into the create md menu it said it could not detect any partitions of type "linux raid autodetect" and fails.. any suggestions? |
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| 04:34.11 | jmd | What does 'B' mean as a flag in aptitude search ? |
| 04:34.37 | cougar`1 | When you /etc/init.d/networking restart, what does that restart? All services that use the net? |
| 04:35.29 | dvst | LoRez, |
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| 04:35.52 | Agrajag- | cougar`1: i believe it restarts your network interfaces. no services are restarted |
| 04:36.14 | Agrajag- | (unless you have services configured to start/stop when interfaces go up/down) |
| 04:36.20 | cougar`1 | So, if I had to change the local IP and subnet, I should restart them manually? Or just be better to restart machine? |
| 04:36.29 | dvst | LoRez, I understand that you are a staff of freenode, join #choroni please |
| 04:36.33 | cougar`1 | Agrajag-: I don't know how to configure that |
| 04:36.51 | Agrajag- | cougar`1: yeah just use /etc/init.d/networking restart if that's all you want to do |
| 04:37.23 | cougar`1 | Agrjag: Will other networking services reflec tthe new IP change |
| 04:37.27 | dvst | nalioth, Madkiss RichiH you too, please |
| 04:37.44 | Agrajag- | cougar`1: the services bind to the interface, not the address, so yes |
| 04:38.59 | cougar`1 | okay |
| 04:39.00 | cougar`1 | BRB! |
| 04:39.00 | Agrajag- | well actually some might bind to addresses, so you may have to reconfigure and restart them |
| 04:39.12 | cougar`1 | rgr. I did anyway |
| 04:39.14 | cougar`1 | Sucks |
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| 04:48.25 | kpgeek | is debian 3.1r1 can be installed on SATA drive |
| 04:48.47 | jetscreamer | r2 is better |
| 04:48.57 | kpgeek | for SATA drive ? |
| 04:49.07 | jetscreamer | better than r1 |
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| 04:50.16 | predder | kpgeek, if you can, go into the bios of your motherboard and set your drives to detect as IDE. Most bios's support this and it can save potential headaches where chipsets arent fully supported |
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| 05:00.05 | predder | http://www.debian.com <-- lol :) |
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| 05:01.55 | blazefx | Hey all, |
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| 05:02.11 | blazefx | I am having some problems unraring a file which is spread across multiple parts. |
| 05:02.25 | blazefx | what is the best what to go about unraring files over multiple parts? |
| 05:02.28 | tenzing_ | what keyboard indicator do we use in KDE |
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| 05:03.01 | Konqui | hi all |
| 05:03.36 | Konqui | sorry to trouble you |
| 05:03.46 | Konqui | but i have a problem |
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| 05:04.13 | Konqui | i need update KDE from 3.3.2 to 3.5.2 |
| 05:04.25 | Konqui | does exit some tool to this update? |
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| 05:06.50 | Konqui | did you hear me? |
| 05:07.05 | PumpkinPie | how do I do ls but sort by time created? |
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| 05:07.51 | Guerin | Konqui: what branch of debian are you using? |
| 05:07.53 | tenzing_ | Konqui, doesnt apt-get work... |
| 05:08.12 | Konqui | i am using debian sarge 3.1 |
| 05:08.24 | Konqui | if i write apt-get install kde |
| 05:08.37 | Konqui | ap-get can install only kopete |
| 05:08.46 | Konqui | and some other libraries |
| 05:09.29 | Guerin | there's no kde 3.5 on sarge, nor will there ever be |
| 05:09.58 | Konqui | i know |
| 05:10.01 | Guerin | you could try to upgrade, but if you can't figure out how to do so yourself, it's too complex and will probably break your system horribly |
| 05:10.08 | Konqui | but i want to upgrade it |
| 05:10.23 | Guerin | you could try to use konstruct, but a) it probably won't build on sarge and b) see above |
| 05:10.37 | Guerin | Konqui: on sarge, this is almost certainly not possible |
| 05:10.48 | Guerin | Konqui: unless you have a lot of skillz |
| 05:11.18 | Konqui | can i uninstall kde and install from ftp mirrors? |
| 05:12.14 | Guerin | you have my permission to do whatever you like |
| 05:12.44 | Guerin | but what I'm trying to get through to you is that it's MICROSCOPICALLY unlikely that you'll get kde 3.5 working on sarge |
| 05:12.47 | Guerin | ever |
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| 05:20.45 | Zardino | How do I do basic hardware management in Linux? Like... install drivers, check to see if hardware is detected/working? Find out what my system has installed? |
| 05:20.53 | Zardino | I tired lsmod... but it gave me a list of stuff that doesn't seem very helpful |
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| 05:21.40 | Tallu | Zardino: try lspci for one :) |
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| 05:22.34 | w1\astronaute | hello deb pple !! =) |
| 05:23.15 | w1\astronaute | can someone help me with rewrite module for apach2 plz ? i'm getting this error while trying to launch apache2 : |
| 05:23.18 | w1\astronaute | Can't locate API module structure `module_rewrite' in file /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rewrite.so: /usr/lib/libapr-0.so.0: undefined symbol: module_rewrite |
| 05:23.30 | w1\astronaute | and noone responds on #apache ^^ |
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| 05:30.00 | minerale | what does the latest wikipedia article mean ( debian to run on amd64 ) did it not run amd64 before ? |
| 05:30.19 | valdyn | minerale: it did |
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| 05:31.38 | valdyn | minerale: a release being official is foremost a release-technical thing that may or may not matter for users |
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| 05:36.38 | linux123 | help. can't set-up my printer. gone thro' the steps in linuxprinting.org. when i do 'kde control cneter->peripherals->printers', i get msg: "Enable to retrieve printer list. Connect to CUPS server failed. Check that CUPS servers is correctly installed and running. Error: host not found". And there is server at /var/srun/cups/sups.cock:163. ps -e shows that that is a cupsd. |
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| 05:38.01 | linux123 | server should be at: /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631 |
| 05:38.10 | Chandu | hi |
| 05:38.20 | valdyn | linux123: eh? it should be at localhost:631 |
| 05:39.00 | linux123 | valudyn: thks but how to make it so? |
| 05:39.19 | valdyn | linux123: it already is so i suppose |
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| 05:41.10 | linux123 | in kde, below Print System currently used, there is 'server: /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631'. |
| 05:41.32 | blarp | does the command lsof -i show it actually running? |
| 05:41.54 | linux123 | blarp: that meant for me? |
| 05:41.56 | cplx | how do I close a TCP Socket? |
| 05:41.57 | blarp | yes |
| 05:42.00 | valdyn | linux123: run 'netstat -plunt | grep cups | grep tcp' |
| 05:42.03 | linux123 | let me try |
| 05:42.11 | blarp | run lsof -i tcp:631 |
| 05:42.52 | cplx | blarp: how do I close a TCP socket for say apache on port 80? |
| 05:43.07 | linux123 | blarp: yeh, there's 2 cupsd . |
| 05:43.13 | valdyn | cplx: what do you really want to do? |
| 05:43.20 | valdyn | linux123: doubt that |
| 05:43.37 | valdyn | linux123: '/msg dpkg paste' and paste the output |
| 05:43.48 | cplx | valdyn: close a socket.. tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN it didnt unbind properly |
| 05:43.52 | linux123 | sorry, i was runing lsof -i. let me try lsof -i tcp:631. |
| 05:44.06 | valdyn | cplx: you cannot do that |
| 05:44.26 | cplx | valdyn: I cant unbind a socket and then rebind it? |
| 05:44.42 | blarp | your httpd is stuck huh cplx |
| 05:44.47 | cplx | yes blarp |
| 05:44.55 | linux123 | i got this output: cupsd 1213 root 0u IPv4 2380 TCP themachine:ipp (LISTEN) |
| 05:45.10 | blarp | cplx: try /etc/init.d/apache2 stop |
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| 05:45.19 | linux123 | ok |
| 05:45.50 | yang | what replaces bidentd in etch...? |
| 05:46.00 | linux123 | blarp: done that. |
| 05:46.46 | linux123 | should i try the kde control center again? |
| 05:46.53 | blarp | you can |
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| 05:47.11 | blarp | try using themachine:631 |
| 05:47.18 | Tallu | Is there a way to make vlc add to playlist as default action? |
| 05:47.27 | valdyn | linux123: go to http://themachine:631/ on your webbrowser and set up a printer |
| 05:47.41 | blarp | the cups web server should answer |
| 05:47.51 | linux123 | let me try |
| 05:48.27 | blarp | Tallu: did you set up the /etc/mailcap for that ? |
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| 05:48.48 | linux123 | i get the web page for cups 1.2.1. |
| 05:48.56 | Tallu | blarp: hmm no, i'll take a look.. thanks :) |
| 05:49.00 | blarp | np |
| 05:49.05 | roxy_ | when I reboot I always got a artsmessage: Error while initializing the sound driver:device: default can't be opened for playback(No such file or directory) |
| 05:49.34 | roxy_ | When I do alsaconf, everything work fine after, but I alwasy has to run alsaconf. Why ? |
| 05:49.43 | valdyn | !alsa |
| 05:49.43 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist>, or http://alsa-project.org/, or see <alsa one-liner> |
| 05:49.48 | linux123 | valdyn: i set up the printer from the cups 1.2.1 webpage? |
| 05:49.55 | valdyn | linux123: yes |
| 05:50.45 | roxy_ | valdyn: thanks |
| 05:50.46 | Abe | hmm, any suggestion on ftp server which support directory based permission (such as an upload dir for upload only) |
| 05:50.53 | Abe | apart from proftpd ;) |
| 05:50.59 | blarp | lol |
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| 05:52.20 | blarp | Abe: apt-cache policy vsftpd |
| 05:52.57 | Abe | blarp, but it doesn't have directory based permission it seems |
| 05:53.14 | blarp | Abe: apt-cache search ftpd ; then look thru them all |
| 05:53.34 | blarp | upload dumps is a function of the configuration -- but I use sftp |
| 05:53.39 | Abe | that's what I'm doing, but seems can't find any until now :( |
| 05:54.17 | blarp | Abe: try wu-ftpd |
| 05:54.17 | blarp | ? |
| 05:54.37 | Abe | well, stupid windows dont support it :( and ppl are complaining :( |
| 05:54.52 | linux123 | valdyn: i have completed the Add Printer process. Is that all? |
| 05:55.06 | Abe | hmm, wu-ftpd seems to have something like that... let me have a look. |
| 05:55.06 | blarp | ouchies |
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| 05:55.26 | Guerin | wu-ftpd is like swi=ss cheese |
| 05:55.38 | minerale | Hi, I'm a novice when it comes to this -- I have a currently running gnome session, I have tightvnc, and I'd like to reconnect to the running session, using tightvncserver all I get is a 'new' x server / vnc session. How can I use the vnc server to connect to my current window, as if I were sitting in front of the computer |
| 05:55.50 | Abe | Guerin, too fat u mean? or too good? :D |
| 05:55.57 | Guerin | Abe: too holey |
| 05:56.00 | blarp | security |
| 05:56.21 | Abe | oh |
| 05:56.41 | Abe | I thought ftp is insecure enough already......rofl |
| 05:56.58 | jair | guys I am having a little hang up with the xmms player when I am trying to listen streaming music from the interet (shoutcast) |
| 05:57.15 | jair | it is any plugin I have to install on xmms? |
| 05:57.17 | blarp | minerale: do you have remotedesktop? Im not sure you can hi-jack the current window session |
| 05:57.26 | Guerin | jair: that's nice |
| 05:57.37 | jair | Guerin: what do you mean? |
| 05:57.39 | Guerin | jair: what, to listen to music? |
| 05:57.43 | Guerin | jair: i'm lagging |
| 05:57.58 | blarp | Is your httpd still stuck cplx ? |
| 05:58.00 | Guerin | jair: describe the problem. |
| 05:58.08 | linux123 | valdyn: i am having basically the same msg about CUPS server failure when I try to print. |
| 05:58.19 | jair | Guerin: I am listening a shoutcast server I configure and I am testing it, form windows it opens with not problems with winamp |
| 05:58.35 | roxy_ | valdyn: I don't have any oss driver in /etc/modules and I have a linux-sound-base_noOSS in /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/ . I am running unstable, 2.6.17 vanilla kernel. |
| 05:59.04 | cplx | blarp: yes.. mydomain.com:80 doesnt work only mydomain.com:2086 works |
| 05:59.05 | jair | Guerin: but when I try to open the .pls the xmms et hang, and close right away or just stay there and does not do anything and I have to kill manually the process |
| 05:59.15 | Guerin | jair: what format is it broadcasting? mp3? |
| 05:59.20 | jair | Guerin: but I can play other mp3s with not problem |
| 05:59.24 | jair | yes |
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| 05:59.27 | jair | mp3 |
| 05:59.32 | blarp | cplx: do you have more than one httpd process in /etc/init.d ? |
| 05:59.39 | Guerin | jair: does it work using other programs in debian? like mplayer or mpg321 |
| 06:00.07 | cplx | blarp: yes |
| 06:00.15 | minerale | blarp: is the name of the package just that 'remotedesktop' ? |
| 06:00.31 | jair | Guerin: I will try those |
| 06:00.39 | jair | let me install them |
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| 06:00.53 | minerale | blarp: you know, I'd like to have vnc the same way it's implemented in osx and windows |
| 06:00.55 | jair | Guerin: how can I install mplayer by the way |
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| 06:01.01 | jair | I kno is an special repo |
| 06:01.06 | jair | or sourcelist |
| 06:01.13 | jair | !mplayer |
| 06:01.13 | dpkg | i heard mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 06:01.18 | jair | got it |
| 06:01.44 | jair | Guerin: that is all i will need right? |
| 06:01.53 | jair | for mplayer and look for the codecs |
| 06:01.56 | simonrvn | politics sucks |
| 06:02.02 | Guerin | jair: just try it |
| 06:02.08 | jair | ok |
| 06:02.12 | linux123 | 'netstat -plunt | grep cups | grep tcp' gives me 'tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1213/cupsd" but i am still having "Connection to CUPS server failed". help! |
| 06:02.22 | Guerin | jair: any other program you have is fine - i just want to see if it's an xmms fart |
| 06:02.22 | blarp | minerale: I made a mistake, I see grdesktop and rdesktop -- both for talking to Windows -- not X Windows |
| 06:02.23 | jair | and I know that vlc comes with a gui as well but don't know which to install |
| 06:02.30 | jair | I have vlc on the system installed |
| 06:02.32 | Guerin | simonrvn: i'm studying it again this year |
| 06:02.33 | simonrvn | linux123: *how* are you 'connecting'? |
| 06:02.52 | simonrvn | i hope you have a speedy and good recovery |
| 06:02.54 | linux123 | simonvrn: sorry, don't get you. |
| 06:03.00 | blarp | cplx: execute sudo lsof -i tcp:80 and tell me what you see |
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| 06:03.19 | simonrvn | what is complicated about what i said? |
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| 06:03.26 | linux123 | simonvrn: it is a local printer via parallel port. |
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| 06:03.31 | Abe | how about mod_ftpd in apache2. how's it anyone knows? |
| 06:03.35 | cplx | blarp: no such command.. |
| 06:03.40 | simonrvn | i mean to the cupsd ... |
| 06:03.49 | linux123 | simonrvn: is that what u mean? |
| 06:03.54 | nopalin | i have this error when i compile an application: ../libtool: line 1657: cd: NONE: No such file or directory |
| 06:03.54 | blarp | what version of Debian cplx |
| 06:04.21 | simonrvn | ok... how. are. you. connecting. to. cups? |
| 06:04.23 | linux123 | simonrvn: how to know how the printer is connecting to the cupsd? |
| 06:04.41 | blarp | nopalin: did you install build-esstentials? |
| 06:04.49 | simonrvn | !b-e nopalin |
| 06:04.49 | dpkg | nopalin: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 06:05.01 | linux123 | simonrvn: i am using the pcl3 driver. |
| 06:05.29 | valdyn | roxy_: set arts to use alsa in kde or add snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss to /etc/modules |
| 06:05.50 | simonrvn | never mind |
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| 06:06.29 | nopalin | blarp and simonrvn : thanks |
| 06:07.11 | nopalin | what does the build-essential do? |
| 06:07.19 | blarp | adds stuff you need |
| 06:07.22 | blarp | lol |
| 06:08.16 | nopalin | blarp: stuffs like what? |
| 06:08.20 | nopalin | stuufs for compile? |
| 06:08.27 | linux123 | simonrvn: that's all you can do? |
| 06:08.31 | simonrvn | !depends build-essential |
| 06:08.35 | dpkg | build-essential: depends on libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 4:4.1.1), g++ (>= 4:4.1.1), make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.5) |
| 06:08.35 | blarp | nopalin: when you say 'compile' -- do you mean 'make' or 'gcc -c some.c -o some.prog' ??? |
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| 06:08.50 | nopalin | make |
| 06:09.08 | blarp | listen to simonrvn then |
| 06:09.21 | blarp | you need all the build stuff |
| 06:09.31 | simonrvn | linux123: that's all you can give me? how can i help with "it's a parallel port printer and i'm using the pcl3 driver" and some netstat output grepping for the cupsd process |
| 06:09.50 | nopalin | blarp: iok thanks |
| 06:10.10 | Chandu | hi , from where can I get the Debian etch installer or sarge installer with G-I |
| 06:10.21 | Chandu | I want to try installing thru Debian G-I |
| 06:10.22 | simonrvn | i'm going to make the bot tell you how you can help us help you, ok? |
| 06:10.32 | linux123 | simonrvn: you ask "how do you connect". if i now say as device LPT#1, will it help? |
| 06:10.32 | simonrvn | !tell linux123 about smart questions |
| 06:10.36 | simonrvn | !tell linux123 about ask |
| 06:10.40 | Chandu | I downlaoded two images,but they are textmode installer |
| 06:10.51 | valdyn | linux123: a) can you access http://localhost:631/? b) can you add a printer there? c) does printing a testpage from there work? |
| 06:11.02 | roxy_ | valdyn: thank, testing it |
| 06:11.04 | simonrvn | linux123: no it doesn't. right now that doesn't matter because i have no idea what you want help for |
| 06:11.34 | linux123 | simonrvn: stfu and gfy |
| 06:11.48 | blarp | \= |
| 06:11.51 | jair | !marillant |
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| 06:13.08 | linux123 | valdyn: i have added a printer via localhost:631. let me try the test page, i did not see it earlier on. |
| 06:14.43 | simonrvn | oh, one more thing, i will not be told to STFU unless i insulted you, which i didn't. you didn't get what you wanted to hear, so you started telling me to STFU. |
| 06:14.52 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
| 06:15.11 | simonrvn | fricking little brat |
| 06:15.19 | simonrvn | *now* you can tell me to stfu |
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| 06:15.58 | linux123 | valdyn: no test page from localhost:631. when i tried my own created doc, it can't print. |
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| 06:16.37 | linux123 | it has the same "Connection to CUPS server failed" msg. |
| 06:17.27 | linux123 | simonrvn: i am communicating with valdyn. is that your nick too? |
| 06:17.56 | streuner | linux123: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 06:18.19 | linux123 | streuner: checking it out. |
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| 06:18.52 | roxy_ | valdyn: still same pb :( |
| 06:18.56 | linux123 | streuner: ii libc6 2.3.6-15 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
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| 06:19.24 | snoop | how can you shadow your password in debian? |
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| 06:19.44 | streuner | linux123: What does BTS say about? |
| 06:20.38 | linux123 | streuner: i am not familiar wiht the BTS. |
| 06:20.55 | cafuego | !bts |
| 06:20.56 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 06:20.58 | simonrvn | you don't shadow your passwords, it means shadow passwords, which means the use of /etc/shadow and related files is used, and /etc/passwd doesn't actually store the passwords. usually md5 crypt is enabled along with this (stronger than unix crypt() ) |
| 06:21.34 | cafuego | streuner: 'tail -1' is deprecated and newer versions of tail fail. Please use 'tail -n 1' ;-) |
| 06:21.38 | roxy_ | valdyn: when I run alsaconf, it is terminating a process and unloading module, so I presume that everything that was supposed to be there were:http://rafb.net/paste/results/Pofo0z95.html |
| 06:21.49 | snoop | how can I do that simonrvn |
| 06:22.04 | linux123 | streuner: u think i should check bugs on cupsys? |
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| 06:22.52 | streuner | linux123: as long as you are not using stable, it wouldn't be a bad idea to check BTS too. |
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| 06:23.23 | simonrvn | iirc, you can do dpkg-reconfigure passwd. brb |
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| 06:25.03 | cafuego | simonrvn: that won't go from crypt to md5 though (but would 'passwd' upon next use overwrite the pw field with am md5 string?) |
| 06:25.26 | linux123 | streuner: checked thro bts. no case filed for cupsys. |
| 06:25.40 | simonrvn | i think you had to convert the old and change the pam.d stuff to using md5 |
| 06:26.24 | linux123 | valdyn: in the 'Add Printer', for Device, I choose LPT#1 for my local printer. Is that correct? |
| 06:26.30 | streuner | linux123: so the CUPS-system worked and suddently it doesn't? |
| 06:26.44 | streuner | oh :-) |
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| 06:27.18 | yos87 | hello |
| 06:27.24 | linux123 | streuner: no, i want to install a new printer, and i can't. |
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| 06:28.04 | streuner | linux123: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 06:28.33 | yos87 | Is there any IBM laptops without Windows OS? |
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| 06:29.42 | snoop | how can I use /etc/shadow ? |
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| 06:29.52 | jair | guys in the mplayer installation I have a centrino processor will be consider 386? or 586? |
| 06:30.15 | zl2tod | should be safe with 586 |
| 06:30.47 | jair | but how I determine that? |
| 06:30.58 | linux123 | streuner: Linux version 2.6.8 (root@themachine) (gcc version 3.3.4 (Debian 1:3.3.4-13)) #1 Wed Mar 1 17:13:12 EST 2006 |
| 06:31.02 | streuner | !686 |
| 06:31.02 | dpkg | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M (as in the chip used in the "Centrino" brand). not correct for EM64T Xeon/Pentium4's, which should use a -em64t-p4 kernel, or if you want to take advantage of hyperthreading support, you should install a -smp kernel. |
| 06:31.05 | jair | I mean I see some times 686, 586, 386 |
| 06:31.37 | streuner | 586 are Pentium or similar chips which have about 200 Mhz |
| 06:31.50 | streuner | so pretty old... |
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| 06:32.01 | jair | yes but whhmm so 586 is older than 386? |
| 06:32.15 | streuner | 386 is older |
| 06:32.22 | jair | haha |
| 06:32.45 | zl2tod | linux123, I think you can successfully set up a printer using http://localhost:631/ I dunno what in going on with the /var/whatever |
| 06:32.49 | jair | so if I have centrino and mplayer comes in an option 586 and 386I should go with 586 :) |
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| 06:32.57 | cafuego | 386 is really only used for generic kernels; non-hardware specific. |
| 06:33.32 | simonrvn | for a start, do this: in /etc/pam.d/common-password: password required pam_unix.so use_authtok nullok_secure md5 shadow and comment out the stuff above that |
| 06:33.35 | simonrvn | oh ffs |
| 06:33.44 | jair | cafuego: so i should go with 86 |
| 06:33.49 | jair | 386 |
| 06:33.57 | cafuego | jair: No, 586 :-) |
| 06:34.02 | jair | ok |
| 06:34.04 | zl2tod | jair, accroding to the above you could use the 686 option if it exists, and yes it's a good idea |
| 06:34.05 | streuner | jair: so not k7 :-) |
| 06:34.10 | jair | :) |
| 06:34.11 | linux123 | zl2tod: thks, i have tried that. let me walk thro it again. when it comes to 'Device', what should i choose? |
| 06:34.12 | jair | thanks |
| 06:34.14 | cafuego | jair: Your 686 cpu supports ALL 586 instructions too. |
| 06:34.29 | jair | cool thanks guys |
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| 06:37.18 | zl2tod | linux123, I use LPT #1 |
| 06:37.19 | streuner | linux123: /msg dpkg hpinkjet install |
| 06:37.51 | streuner | linux123: and install an official kernel |
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| 06:38.18 | simonrvn | and stop acting like a brat |
| 06:38.23 | streuner | linux123: go to linuxprinting.org and see what driver works for your printer best. |
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| 06:43.10 | linux123 | zl2tod: ? |
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| 06:44.00 | keram | hey |
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| 06:44.06 | keram | what do i need to install to get xfce4 working? |
| 06:44.13 | keram | like what is the x11 server that i need |
| 06:44.17 | keram | whats hte pakcage |
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| 06:45.46 | zl2tod | keran: apt-cache search xfce4 |
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| 06:46.17 | roxy_ | government: :-) |
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| 06:47.15 | keram | how do i upgrade to the testing version? |
| 06:47.21 | keram | etch? |
| 06:47.31 | keram | the one past unstable |
| 06:47.47 | streuner | keram: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 06:47.59 | keram | wait |
| 06:48.02 | keram | isnt sid unstable? |
| 06:48.17 | streuner | yes |
| 06:48.29 | keram | so whats the one after sid? |
| 06:48.45 | keram | dont u just need to edit the /etc/sources.list file? |
| 06:49.14 | keram | but i forgot how to edit it for that one and then i forgot the commands to update your system |
| 06:49.35 | streuner | !sarge->etch |
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| 06:50.08 | streuner | keram: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
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| 06:52.26 | descl-rc2 | hi |
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| 06:53.37 | danf_1979 | were can I report a bug about apt-cache? |
| 06:53.45 | predder | anyone point me in the right direction for reading about re-building the debian installer with a newer kernel? |
| 06:53.51 | danf_1979 | !bts |
| 06:53.51 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 06:54.25 | streuner | predder: what kernel do you need? |
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| 06:54.46 | Dahgol | eclipse or kdevelop? |
| 06:54.46 | streuner | predder: daily built beta etch have 2.6.17 kernels |
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| 06:56.39 | predder | streuner, I have 4 servers that need to go into a data centre with ICH7 chipsets (supported=>2.6.11). Was hoping I could avoid installing etch until it hits stable.. |
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| 06:57.48 | streuner | predder: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.16 |
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| 06:58.10 | Deffie | hi all, anyone using gobby on sarge ? |
| 06:58.17 | predder | thanks streuner, I downloaded that and installed it but unfortunately the software raid functionality is broken :( |
| 06:58.23 | cydork | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.33 | cydork | ~ /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.16 |
| 06:58.40 | streuner | predder: and 2.6.15 didn't work too? |
| 06:59.00 | predder | oh, I didnt try that? |
| 06:59.16 | streuner | predder: ok, try /msg dpkg di |
| 06:59.21 | streuner | too |
| 06:59.48 | predder | thanks for your help |
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| 06:59.56 | streuner | good luck |
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| 07:00.29 | streuner | predder: if that doesn't help, ask in #debian-boot (irc.oftc.net) |
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| 07:01.02 | flur | is enlightenment worth installing? anyone have any opinions about what wm to install? i'm looking for something lightweight but visually appealing (not interested in kde/gnome/fluxbox)... |
| 07:02.55 | MZM | how to set environmental variables for Apache2? (for apps launched by httpd process) |
| 07:03.42 | government | MZM: Prolly just export 'em in the init script; I'd hazard. |
| 07:03.48 | government | MZM: It should then inherit. |
| 07:05.51 | government | MZM: Yep. See /etc/init.d/apache2; edit the ENV= line to add whatever you need. |
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| 07:09.29 | MZM | cafuego: TNX. It worked. |
| 07:12.46 | keram | how do i update my kernel? |
| 07:12.49 | keram | to a newer version |
| 07:13.01 | keram | bekuz i need a higher version for xfce4 and x11 i believe |
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| 07:15.29 | cafuego | MZM: Yeh, checked it here on mine; which now has $CHICKEN=EGG set for all requests ;-) |
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| 07:24.22 | Tallu | pfft |
| 07:24.36 | Tallu | trying to crack my passwords, probably going to take a while :P |
| 07:24.58 | keram | how do i upgrade my kernel? |
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| 07:25.58 | waiting | keram: get the latest package with kernel image :) |
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| 07:27.44 | waiting | keram: i think it's called linux-image-<something> |
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| 07:28.39 | newbcoder | how do i enable xv? |
| 07:28.41 | newbcoder | (mplayer complains) |
| 07:28.41 | keram | ic |
| 07:28.43 | newbcoder | yes, Im running debian |
| 07:28.46 | newbcoder | compiled mplayer from source |
| 07:28.52 | keram | where do iget the image from? |
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| 07:29.23 | SlayerXP | good morning, octothorpe dweebians. |
| 07:29.42 | waiting | newbcoder: apt-get install libxv1 (for the binaries, there's a -dev package, too) |
| 07:29.58 | waiting | g'morning, SlayerXP |
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| 07:32.03 | newbcoder | waiting, it's installed already |
| 07:32.11 | waiting | newbcoder: then I dont know o O |
| 07:32.19 | newbcoder | okay; thanks for your help[ anyway :-) |
| 07:32.53 | keram | what kernel do i need for xfce4 and xserver-xorg |
| 07:33.00 | keram | i know i need a new kernel or my keyboard doesnt work |
| 07:33.11 | keram | because i have the default kernel that came with the net install cd |
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| 07:33.17 | waiting | keram: USB kezboard? |
| 07:33.19 | FatLoser | i think i asked this question here a few month ago, but my hard drive crashed, and for some reason i completely forgot the solution... well, can someone point me to a tutorial/how to about mounting a vfs? specifically by ftp, and i dont need the secure kind |
| 07:33.25 | keram | wireless usb keybaord |
| 07:33.29 | waiting | keram: oha |
| 07:33.33 | keram | and mouse |
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| 07:34.04 | Domi`needs`help | good morning |
| 07:34.05 | waiting | keram: do you have the "hotplug" package installed? |
| 07:34.07 | keram | last time after i installed xorg and restarted my mouse/keyboard stopped working until i upgraded my kernel |
| 07:34.17 | keram | how do i check? |
| 07:34.25 | roxy_ | keram: did you load mousedev ? |
| 07:34.28 | waiting | keram: dpkg -l hotplug |
| 07:34.40 | wassim | good morning every body |
| 07:34.54 | wassim | how to install avi plugin |
| 07:34.57 | waiting | I think hotplug loads those things at boot |
| 07:35.04 | keram | yeah hot plug is installed |
| 07:35.07 | keram | not hotplug-utils tho |
| 07:35.09 | waiting | keram: weird o O |
| 07:35.14 | waiting | I know not enough :S |
| 07:35.36 | keram | i know almost certainly that i need a new kernel |
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| 07:35.48 | Domi`needs`help | howto run exim in debug mode with lookup? |
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| 07:35.56 | roxy_ | keram: I had to add mousedev to /etc/modules for my usb keyboard/mouse to work. |
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| 07:36.02 | itchi | FatLoser: Can you not look in your log files?? |
| 07:36.21 | keram | roxy_, ah ic |
| 07:36.37 | keram | roxy_, are you using sit or etch or wut? |
| 07:37.45 | roxy_ | keram: I had the problem on testing and unstable. Do you have /dev/input/mice ? |
| 07:38.01 | wassim | keram: how to install avi plugin |
| 07:38.02 | FatLoser | no, i dont have those log files, my hard drive crashed |
| 07:38.21 | keram | roxy_, and u have teh default kernel that came with the install?? |
| 07:38.37 | roxy_ | keram: you got the 2.4 ? |
| 07:38.52 | keram | yes i have mice |
| 07:38.59 | keram | umm i think i do |
| 07:39.06 | keram | how do i check again? |
| 07:39.14 | roxy_ | uname -r |
| 07:39.36 | keram | yea 2.4.27 |
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| 07:39.50 | roxy_ | try: modprobe mousedev |
| 07:40.12 | keram | sudo? |
| 07:40.16 | Domi`needs`help | how can i bring exim to debug mode? |
| 07:40.18 | roxy_ | yes |
| 07:40.38 | keram | it gave me no output |
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| 07:41.00 | wassim | Domi`needs`help: why doing that? |
| 07:41.04 | roxy_ | keram: good. |
| 07:41.16 | roxy_ | do you have xfree or xorg ? |
| 07:41.21 | wassim | Domi`needs`help: why not to use postfix |
| 07:41.23 | keram | umm |
| 07:41.44 | Guerin | exim is worthy |
| 07:41.47 | roxy_ | keram: dpkg -l | grep xserver |
| 07:41.51 | Domi`needs`help | if i'm startin fetchmail -a i get a ..fetchmail: SMTP-Fehler: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later |
| 07:41.55 | Guerin | you just need to read the docs |
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| 07:42.01 | Guerin | at least exim HAD documentation |
| 07:42.03 | Guerin | bah |
| 07:42.04 | Guerin | HAS |
| 07:42.05 | wassim | roxy_: how to install an avi plgin |
| 07:42.11 | keram | i dont have xfree |
| 07:42.13 | Domi`needs`help | now i want to look what exim is doin |
| 07:42.14 | keram | but i have xserver-xorg |
| 07:42.17 | roxy_ | wassim: what is avi ? |
| 07:42.29 | Guerin | there's no such thing as an avi plugin |
| 07:42.35 | wassim | Domi`needs`help: working in a local mailserver, or a wide one? |
| 07:42.41 | Domi`needs`help | local. |
| 07:42.43 | Guerin | avi is just mpeg-4 |
| 07:42.51 | wassim | ok |
| 07:42.52 | Guerin | which everything knows how to play |
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| 07:43.01 | Domi`needs`help | it sands 5 meters away ;) |
| 07:43.06 | keram | roxy_, well i have xfree86-commmon |
| 07:43.08 | Domi`needs`help | stands* |
| 07:43.33 | keram | roxy_, and i have xserver |
| 07:43.47 | roxy_ | keram: why not just getting the 2.6.8 kernel and upgrading |
| 07:43.59 | wassim | Domi`needs`help: great, try to do better (6 metter) :D |
| 07:44.05 | keram | yeah thats what i wanted to do, but how do i get the 2.6.8 kernel? |
| 07:44.11 | ttyfscker | has anybody here successfully got vmware to work on 2.6.17?? |
| 07:44.13 | Domi`needs`help | ^^ |
| 07:44.23 | wassim | Domi`needs`help: lets get it from the begining |
| 07:44.39 | roxy_ | keram: apt-cache search linux | grep image |
| 07:44.45 | Domi`needs`help | well, now i want to observe why exim can't connect to my mysql database. |
| 07:46.29 | keram | roxy_, i see 2.6.16 |
| 07:46.35 | keram | but not 2.6.8 |
| 07:46.52 | Domi`needs`help | but how can i do this? someone told me: use debug wirh lookup |
| 07:46.56 | roxy_ | keram: in stable ? |
| 07:46.59 | Domi`needs`help | but how, wassim? |
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| 07:47.54 | keram | in testing |
| 07:47.55 | wassim | Domi`needs`help: just a moment .... |
| 07:47.57 | roxy_ | keram: yes, 2.6.8 is called kernel-image, and from 2.6.12 it is called linux-image. |
| 07:48.06 | Domi`needs`help | k |
| 07:48.23 | keram | roxy_, so what do i need? |
| 07:48.26 | keram | kernel-image 2.6? |
| 07:48.59 | roxy_ | keram: just use: aptitude install linux-image-xxx |
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| 07:49.39 | roxy_ | keram: reboot into your new kernel, run aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade; |
| 07:49.51 | keram | roxy_, with the x's or what |
| 07:50.09 | keram | i see 2.6-386 and 686 |
| 07:50.20 | roxy_ | keram: no :-) . use apt-cache search | grep linux-image to find the number for xxx |
| 07:50.57 | wassim | Domi`needs`help: version of exim? |
| 07:51.08 | Domi`needs`help | exim 4 |
| 07:51.13 | keram | roxy_, it says you need to give exactly one pattern |
| 07:51.54 | keram | roxy_, so which one do i want the kernel-image or the linux-image?? |
| 07:51.54 | roxy_ | keram: apt-cache search linux | grep image |
| 07:52.22 | roxy_ | keram: take linux image. |
| 07:52.26 | keram | okay |
| 07:52.45 | keram | so linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 07:52.53 | wassim | Domi`needs`help: great, look at this http://www.tty1.net/virtual_domains_en.html |
| 07:53.08 | roxy_ | keram: yes |
| 07:53.43 | Domi`needs`help | i'm using vexim, too. |
| 07:54.08 | wassim | Domi`needs`help: and this http://support.atmail.com/exim.html |
| 07:54.26 | Domi`needs`help | k. ll read it.. |
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| 07:55.05 | roxy_ | bbl |
| 07:55.12 | keram | ok |
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| 07:57.31 | keram | i'm getting this error when i startx |
| 07:57.46 | keram | could not find init front path element /usr/share/fonts/X11 |
| 07:57.53 | keram | removing from list |
| 07:58.10 | vorsprung | yawnin |
| 07:58.18 | keram | then i get fatal server error: couldnt open default font 'fixed' XIO fatal IO error 104 connection reset by peer on x server |
| 07:58.24 | keram | can anyone help? |
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| 07:58.41 | wassim | i have a problem with sounds in internet pages, |
| 07:58.50 | wassim | i need help |
| 07:58.59 | ttyfscker | damnit.. i know someone has to know about the bug with 2.6.17 and vmware.. cant someone help me out? |
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| 08:00.08 | evilgeek | ttyfscker: this is not the channel for such discussion. |
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| 08:00.46 | MichaelDaum | good morning debian |
| 08:01.05 | wassim | morning MichaelDaumhael |
| 08:01.05 | ttyfscker | evilgeek:: well its a debian 2.6.17 related issue. i dont see why not |
| 08:01.17 | MichaelDaum | anybody about to fix apt-proxy on testing/unstable? |
| 08:01.24 | evilgeek | it's fundamentally a vmware issue. |
| 08:01.29 | MichaelDaum | is there a hotfix/patch somewhere |
| 08:01.30 | danf_1979 | When using: LANG=C dpkg-reconfigure some_package, there are still 'some' strings in spanish for example. Why does this happen? I should be 'all' in english does it? |
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| 08:01.48 | danf_1979 | It* |
| 08:01.59 | Johnny_5 | i finally got a webcam that works in debian, but how do i get it where other |
| 08:02.01 | Johnny_5 | s |
| 08:02.06 | Johnny_5 | can see me? |
| 08:02.11 | wassim | MichaelDaum: go to source.list and get lines containing testing/unstable and comment them |
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| 08:02.55 | yage | is there anyway to use pam_radius with some kind of encryption (i mean, using something different than pap) |
| 08:02.56 | MichaelDaum | wassim, source.list? |
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| 08:04.45 | MichaelDaum | wassim, it would be great if you could be more precise (your answer didn't parse for me) as we have a compute cluster on debian/testing and the nodes need security updates ... |
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| 08:05.32 | MichaelDaum | apt-proxy is broken in testing and I have not enuf info to get it fixed |
| 08:05.38 | MichaelDaum | this is for quite some time now |
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| 08:06.14 | wassim | MichaelDaum: /etc/apt/source.list |
| 08:06.25 | Johnny_5 | i finally got a webcam that works in debian, but how do i get it so others can see me on it? |
| 08:06.28 | ivan` | if i just changed unstable to testing in my sources.list, do I need to do anything else to downgrade to testing? |
| 08:06.50 | wassim | MichaelDaum: then run apt-get update |
| 08:06.59 | ivan` | update/upgrade says 0 to update |
| 08:07.20 | MichaelDaum | wassim, ah you mean I should downgrade apt-proxy .... |
| 08:07.28 | wassim | yes |
| 08:07.52 | KTW | Hi. Does anyone know if it's possible to somehow map the localhost:9011 to my ip's port 9011? The localhost is 127.0,0.1 and it refuses connections from other machines. |
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| 08:08.04 | MichaelDaum | hm, ok, I will fetch the stable deb and dpkg -i, and then pin it. |
| 08:08.43 | MichaelDaum | so is there a bug being reported for apt-proxy (url) ? |
| 08:09.43 | Guerin | !bts |
| 08:09.43 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 08:11.22 | MichaelDaum | dpkg, thanks |
| 08:11.22 | dpkg | MichaelDaum: de nada |
| 08:13.40 | keram | how do i upgrade my kernel to 2.6.8 on the testing version |
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| 08:14.51 | Guerin | testing's kernel is WAY newer than 2.6.8 |
| 08:15.12 | Guerin | apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 |
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| 08:16.48 | keram | i dont get anything beyond 2.6 :/ |
| 08:17.09 | keram | the highest i get is 2.6.16 |
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| 08:17.18 | keram | ohhh 5hq5 iw higher thn 2.6 huh |
| 08:17.22 | keram | err 2.6.8 |
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| 08:17.26 | keram | hmm |
| 08:17.34 | keram | well i get an error when i try to startxfce4 |
| 08:17.46 | keram | it says fatal io error and it has to do with fonts |
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| 08:17.51 | keram | 104 error |
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| 08:18.02 | ucho | hello |
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| 08:18.17 | ucho | i have small problem with SVN and perl |
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| 08:19.12 | ucho | i have installed libsvn-core-perl , it depends on /usr/lib/libsvn_swig_perl-1.so.0 from libsvn0 |
| 08:19.37 | ucho | problem is that after installing libsvn0 i still dont have /usr/lib/libsvn_swig_perl-1.so.0 installed 0_o |
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| 08:19.53 | seek | Hello |
| 08:20.17 | seek | How do you set the amount of memory your video card has in your XF86Config file? |
| 08:20.26 | blondie | I don't bother |
| 08:20.26 | Guerin | you probably don't need to |
| 08:20.42 | Guerin | if you must, /m~.sg dpkg drxx |
| 08:21.06 | seek | ok, well I'm trying to figure out why my icons will not show fully then I move the mouse over them and they are fine |
| 08:21.19 | keram | fatal server error: couldnt open default font 'fixed' XIO: fatal io error 104 connectoin reset by peer on x server ":0.0" after 0 requests o known processed with 0 events remaining. |
| 08:21.31 | Guerin | !fixed |
| 08:21.31 | dpkg | if you have a problem XFree86 it not finding 'fixed' font, see fonts.alias, or /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz, or make sure xfonts-base is installed, or purge and reinstall it, or see fontfix, or if you are having trouble with xorg r7, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 08:21.50 | Guerin | !fixed is also a bad remix of a good ep |
| 08:21.50 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
| 08:22.38 | keram | ah thanks |
| 08:22.41 | keram | it wasnt installed |
| 08:22.59 | keram | warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory |
| 08:23.01 | keram | when i install it |
| 08:23.07 | Guerin | !warnings |
| 08:23.08 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 08:23.13 | keram | also /etc/X11/fonts/misc |
| 08:23.25 | keram | lol |
| 08:23.29 | keram | okay |
| 08:23.35 | Guerin | !lol |
| 08:23.36 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 08:23.59 | keram | aol rox :P |
| 08:24.10 | keram | woho its working |
| 08:24.12 | keram | thx a million d00d |
| 08:24.16 | Guerin | !aolify keram |
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| 08:27.34 | seek | wtf. I'm trying to install VMWare and when it asks for the directory of C header files that match my running kernel, I supply it with /usr/src/linux which does indeed point to /usr/src/linux-2.6.17.7 .. then it says |
| 08:27.38 | seek | The kernel defined by this directory of header files does not have the same |
| 08:27.38 | seek | address space size as your running kernel. |
| 08:28.02 | seek | I'm positive this is the directory I used to compile the running kernel |
| 08:29.34 | MichaelDaum | downgrading apt-proxy alone does not suffice, will try a previous twisted |
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| 08:44.39 | coywolf | !scratchbox |
| 08:44.40 | dpkg | rumour has it, scratchbox is you can get this croosscompiler tools adding to sources.list -> deb http://scratchbox.org/debian/ ./ |
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| 08:52.38 | streuner | hm |
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| 08:56.51 | RvGaTe | streuner, hm ? |
| 08:57.42 | streuner | hm! :-) |
| 08:58.02 | RvGaTe | aah.. hmm |
| 08:58.56 | thyko | i need some advice |
| 08:59.09 | thyko | which is better for a company mail server: |
| 08:59.15 | thyko | qmail or postfix? |
| 08:59.23 | streuner | second |
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| 08:59.59 | streuner | use exim or postfix, but not sendmail or qmail |
| 09:00.25 | MZM | streuner: why not use qmail? |
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| 09:02.13 | streuner | !qmail |
| 09:02.13 | dpkg | from memory, qmail is a non-free (it's illegal to distribute modified binaries) MTA by djb, or http://www.qmail.org/, or for good getting-started docs see LWQ: http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html, or an MTA that insists on having 3.4 million configuration files spread throughout the filesystem. for reasons why you shouldn't use qmail, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2004/02/msg00179.html or ... |
| 09:02.44 | streuner | http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html |
| 09:02.55 | MZM | w0w |
| 09:03.17 | r_marvin | does anyone here uses asterisk on sarge? i'm a bit stuck in codec-land |
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| 09:10.04 | uwe | anyone running testing/etch can test this link http://www.alarabiya.net/Articles/2006/07/25/26032.htm#0 if it crashes firefox |
| 09:10.17 | uwe | i have Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060406 Firefox/1.5.0.4 |
| 09:10.29 | uwe | Debian-1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-1 |
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| 09:11.03 | uwe | r_marvin, yes, i do |
| 09:11.19 | outlaw84 | how do you reformat a vfat partition? I used mkfs.vfat but it doesnot seam to do anything |
| 09:11.31 | RvGaTe | uwe, testing it on windows xp pro, ff 1.5.0.4, works perfect |
| 09:11.38 | uwe | hmmm |
| 09:12.26 | r_marvin | uwe: i just found out that both g723 and g729 are proprietary, i'll have to contact the license holders |
| 09:12.36 | r_marvin | but i still have a small problem |
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| 09:13.49 | r_marvin | i see ulaw used instead of g726, although it's set as the only codec and it appears in "show translation" |
| 09:13.58 | RvGaTe | uwe, seems to crash on IE... |
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| 09:17.01 | r_marvin | uwe: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-1 here, too , it works |
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| 09:24.53 | BlueBeret | hello, I've encountered a problem when trying an USB2 interface. everytime I try to read more than about 8 megabytes, I get the message: usb 1-4: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4. then it starts over and keeps printing this message until I kill the process. any ideas? |
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| 09:29.11 | linux123 | hi, i ahve set up my printer with CUPS but when i print a file, it stays in the queue and get printed. what could be the problem? |
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| 09:29.41 | linux123 | sorry, sould be 'never get printed'. |
| 09:30.09 | MZM | linux123: start printer in CUPS control center |
| 09:30.45 | linux123 | MZM: thks, i'll try that. |
| 09:31.57 | linux123 | MZM: how to get to the CUPS control center? |
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| 09:32.28 | MZM | navigate to localhost:631 |
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| 09:36.55 | linux123 | MZM: i was there. when i choose 'Manage Job', i saw the jobs there labelled 'Hold Up' in red. when i do 'Reprinting', it says 'Job# incomplete'. |
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| 09:38.34 | jabka | ifup eth1 returns Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1 |
| 09:38.57 | linux123 | MZM: could it be spooling daemon not started? |
| 09:38.57 | MZM | linux123: look at printer section |
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| 09:39.18 | jabka | im unable to connect to the internet after dist-upgrade |
| 09:39.49 | zl2tod | linux123, can you print a test page ? |
| 09:40.59 | zl2tod | jabka, is it a long time since your last dist-upgrade ? |
| 09:41.08 | jabka | zl2tod: i did it half an hour ago .. |
| 09:41.16 | zl2tod | and before that ? |
| 09:41.24 | linux123 | r we talking about the 'localhost:631' page? No 'printer' and no 'test page' there. |
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| 09:41.47 | jabka | i upgraded from 3.1 rc1 |
| 09:42.02 | jabka | i made clean install and upgraded .. |
| 09:42.14 | azeem | jabka: upgraded to what? |
| 09:42.20 | jabka | unstable |
| 09:42.37 | zl2tod | there's been some stuff like that around rDNS or something |
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| 09:43.11 | azeem | jabka: what is eth1, WLAN? |
| 09:43.32 | MZM | linux123: go to CUPS page (localhost:631), then to "manage printers" and look for "Printer State" line |
| 09:43.41 | jabka | azeem: nope it's is regular Realteck ethernet card |
| 09:43.48 | strk | I attempted a dist-upgrade yesterday, and my system is online for a miracle now ... moduitls seems out of sync with kernel or something: |
| 09:43.54 | strk | # depmod -a |
| 09:43.54 | strk | depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented |
| 09:43.56 | azeem | jabka: check dmesg |
| 09:44.37 | linux123 | MZM: i go to kde control center to start printer, the jobs in the queue disappear but no printing occurred. |
| 09:44.45 | jabka | azeem: no good errors (with what i can work .. ) |
| 09:44.57 | azeem | jabka: and signs of detection? |
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| 09:45.21 | jabka | azeem:ill post it on pastebin |
| 09:45.32 | jabka | azeem: it is detected |
| 09:45.55 | strk | any tip on how to fix things ? |
| 09:45.58 | azeem | what does ifconfig eth1 say? |
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| 09:46.17 | jabka | Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output. |
| 09:46.17 | jabka | Segmentation fault |
| 09:46.18 | azeem | strk: from where to where did you dist-upgrade? |
| 09:46.34 | jabka | azeem:mirror in isreal .. |
| 09:46.36 | azeem | jabka: so there's your problem |
| 09:46.41 | strk | from stable to testing |
| 09:46.45 | jabka | azeem:ha ? .. |
| 09:47.04 | azeem | jabka: fix ifconfig, ifup probably runs that behind the curtain |
| 09:47.28 | jabka | azeem:how ? .. |
| 09:47.31 | azeem | strk: what kernel are you running |
| 09:47.40 | azeem | jabka: I don't know, *you* are running unstable not me |
| 09:47.44 | strk | azeem: 2.6.7 |
| 09:48.05 | azeem | jabka: is /proc mounted? |
| 09:48.10 | jabka | azeem: :'-( |
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| 09:48.44 | azeem | jabka: please understand that running unstable is not supported, you might get help here, but you cannot count on it. In general, you should be able to fix breakage yourself if you run unstable |
| 09:48.47 | jetscreamer | oh shit omg last beer! |
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| 09:49.19 | Tallu | hmm, i'm looking to spend around 1000euros to a laptop, anyone have good suggestions for a lappy that works with debian and has nice battery life? :) |
| 09:49.45 | linux123 | MZM: i go to 'manage printer', 'print test page', then 'start printer', after a while, i get 'stop printer' but no printing. damn, somehting wrong with the printer? |
| 09:49.46 | mrcoyote | Yop all |
| 09:49.48 | jabka | azeem: here is the issue .. as far as i understand etherconf makes my life missirable |
| 09:49.51 | Tallu | jetscreamer: i hope you have whiskey after that! |
| 09:49.57 | jetscreamer | no |
| 09:49.58 | azeem | jabka: is /proc mounted? |
| 09:50.01 | jabka | azeem:it can't find eth also |
| 09:50.10 | MZM | linux123: what does printer state line says? |
| 09:50.19 | jabka | azeem: im runnig from other distro now |
| 09:50.22 | azeem | jabka: there seems to be a problem further down the stack than etherconf or ifup |
| 09:50.30 | azeem | jabka: oh well |
| 09:50.37 | jabka | azeem:i chrot it and it is empty |
| 09:50.50 | azeem | jabka: well, that doesn't say much |
| 09:50.58 | zl2tod | jabka: any interesting reading in dmesg ? |
| 09:51.06 | azeem | reboot for real, check dmesg and diagnose with ifconfig etc. |
| 09:51.17 | strk | azeem: I'm trying to build apt source of modutils, w/out success |
| 09:51.25 | azeem | strk: why? |
| 09:51.31 | linux123 | MZM: Printer State: idle, accepting jobs, published. |
| 09:51.34 | azeem | strk: is module loading not working? |
| 09:51.41 | strk | azeem: exactly |
| 09:51.46 | azeem | modprobe? |
| 09:51.51 | strk | QM_MODULES: Function not implemented |
| 09:52.04 | strk | I keep getting that error from all modutils |
| 09:52.11 | azeem | strk: is this a self-compiled kernel? Did you try the stock kernel? |
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| 09:52.32 | jabka | azeem:here is the dmesg from debian (when it didn't connect to the net) |
| 09:52.32 | MZM | linux123: and you have ## printer model ##? |
| 09:52.50 | linux123 | MZM: its Apollo P-1200 |
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| 09:53.07 | strk | azeem, this is self-compiled, which was working fine before dist-upgrade. How do I isntall a stock-kernel instead ? |
| 09:53.07 | EvilDin | how do i add to my locale sl_SI.UTF-8 |
| 09:53.32 | linux123 | MZM: the complete line is: Make and Model: Apollo P-1200 Foomatic/pcl3 (recommended) |
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| 09:53.35 | Tallu | Hmm, how would this sound for partitioning: /var 10gb /swap 2gb /usr 10gb /tmp 1gb / 10gb /home rest I'd like to hear input on people who've had theyre systems running for a longer time, I'm looking at around 50 users, html and webmail will be in home directories, server will also run squid etc |
| 09:53.53 | Tallu | That leaves the /home with around 200gb |
| 09:53.55 | azeem | strk: simply via apt-get |
| 09:54.04 | azeem | strk: apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 |
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| 09:54.49 | linux123 | MZM: my pc is a client in a wlan. could the printing occur in another printer in the wlan? |
| 09:55.03 | strk | # depmod -a |
| 09:55.14 | strk | sorry, kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 ? |
| 09:55.19 | EvilDin | am how to install slovenian locale with utf8 encoding? is it possible? |
| 09:55.42 | strk | what's the difference between linux-image-* and kernel-image-* ? |
| 09:55.54 | MZM | linux123: look at device URI string for wlan answer |
| 09:56.15 | zl2tod | strk: recent name change, kernel- is the older |
| 09:56.17 | petemc | strk: the name changed in etch due to other non-linux kernels being available |
| 09:57.06 | linux123 | MZM: what i meant to say was "could the printing had gone to another printer in the wlan"? |
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| 09:57.45 | strk | dpkg -l shows I do have linux-kernel-headers 2.6.17.3-1 installed |
| 09:57.45 | dpkg | ii shows I do have linux-kernel-headers 2.6.17.3-1 installed 1.1-13 strk's private porn collection |
| 09:57.54 | MZM | linux123: look at device uri for this |
| 09:58.07 | strk | does it mean I'd have to install 2.6.17 kernel ? |
| 09:58.27 | azeem | strk: 2.6.17 isn't in testing, are you running unstable? |
| 09:58.36 | linux123 | MZM: i have specified localhost lpt#1 |
| 09:58.54 | strk | argh, against my will, but if you say so I assume yet |
| 09:58.55 | strk | *yes |
| 09:59.25 | MZM | linux123: then no. it goes localy. now check log files (/var/log/syslog, messages) |
| 09:59.33 | jabka | azeem: i posted the dmesg on #flood |
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| 09:59.55 | Terr[4Q5] | s |
| 09:59.57 | strk | azeem: my source.list did not have any 'unstable' before running dist-upgrade |
| 10:00.03 | azeem | jabka: I'm not on #flood |
| 10:00.18 | azeem | strk: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 10:00.22 | azeem | what does that say? |
| 10:00.34 | jabka | azeem:oops could you join to check it out ? . |
| 10:00.44 | EvilDin | hm how do i add sl_SI locale in utf8 encoding? |
| 10:00.54 | azeem | jabka: post it on a pastebin |
| 10:00.55 | azeem | !paster |
| 10:00.55 | dpkg | pastebin is probably a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 10:01.07 | jabka | http://pastebin.com/757106 |
| 10:01.47 | strk | ii libc6 2.3.6-15 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
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| 10:02.52 | azeem | jabka: sorry, that page times out for me it seems |
| 10:03.13 | azeem | strk: well, anyway, install a linux-image if you want a stock kernel |
| 10:03.25 | coywolf | !scratchbox |
| 10:03.25 | dpkg | methinks scratchbox is you can get this croosscompiler tools adding to sources.list -> deb http://scratchbox.org/debian/ ./ |
| 10:04.35 | strk | azeem: how do I drop the 2.6.7 headers installed so that I can re-install the 2.6.6. ? (dependencies doesn't allow me to) |
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| 10:06.18 | jabka | azeem:ill try to reinstall and upgrade again .. |
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| 10:06.46 | jabka | where can i get unstable snapshot ? |
| 10:06.53 | Pntkl | I'll think about it |
| 10:06.55 | Durtro | you tell me ;) |
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| 10:08.03 | azeem | jabka: why are you running unstable in the first place? |
| 10:08.38 | jabka | azeem: just couse kde 3.5.2 |
| 10:09.13 | jabka | or is it 3.5.3 ? |
| 10:10.13 | azeem | jabka: uhm, testing has the same version of KDE AFAICT |
| 10:10.31 | MZM | linux123: have you found comething interesting in log files? have look also on LPT permissions (ls -l /dev/lpt1) |
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| 10:13.03 | jmd` | apt has decided to remove xfree86 for me, and install x.org |
| 10:13.11 | jabka | azeem:usint internet --connect i was able to connect for a few moments |
| 10:13.16 | jmd` | How am I supposed to get x.org going? |
| 10:13.17 | jabka | azeem:could be ppp prob ? |
| 10:13.31 | jmd` | dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do anything useful. |
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| 10:15.32 | azeem | jabka: I don't know |
| 10:15.51 | azeem | jmd`: what package did you reconfigure? |
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| 10:16.55 | jmd` | azeem: xserver-xorg |
| 10:17.01 | xav_ | hello |
| 10:17.02 | azeem | jmd`: so what did happen? |
| 10:17.20 | azeem | jmd`: actually, testing has x.org-7.0 now as well I think |
| 10:17.39 | jmd` | It ran through the normal questions. I hadn't changed any hardware, so I accepted defaults. |
| 10:17.59 | xav_ | does it exist an unixoid lighter than 1mĂŠga? |
| 10:18.02 | jmd` | But when I do startx, It tells me No drivers available. |
| 10:18.32 | jabka | azeem:il go to reinstall my debian .. |
| 10:19.01 | jmd` | and a lot of warnings about modules not existing. |
| 10:19.15 | azeem | jmd`: you're running testing? |
| 10:19.19 | jmd` | yes |
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| 10:19.39 | azeem | jmd`: what chipset? |
| 10:19.56 | jmd` | pass. I *think* its i810 ?? |
| 10:20.14 | azeem | so do you have the xserver-xorg-video-i810 package installed? |
| 10:20.20 | jmd` | yes |
| 10:20.35 | azeem | check the X log for EE |
| 10:21.02 | azeem | jmd`: also, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 10:21.20 | jmd` | Like I say. "Failed to load modules" and "No drivers available" |
| 10:21.35 | jmd` | I don't know if I have a browser that doesn't need X |
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| 10:21.49 | azeem | jmd`: so install one |
| 10:22.03 | jmd` | How can I be sure of what chipset I have ? |
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| 10:22.16 | azeem | jmd`: lspci will give you hints |
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| 10:22.55 | Chandu | hi \ |
| 10:23.23 | Chandu | where can I get the Debian etch instalar CD for download , |
| 10:23.38 | Chandu | Is there Debian G-I for installing etch |
| 10:23.44 | azeem | Chandu: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 10:23.52 | azeem | I don't think the released beta includes G-I |
| 10:23.59 | Chandu | azeem: is that text mode instalar or G-I |
| 10:24.00 | jmd` | It tells me nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15) |
| 10:24.05 | azeem | the next beta should have it, but is not out yet |
| 10:24.09 | Chandu | azeem:ok |
| 10:24.18 | azeem | jmd`: might be that X.org doesn't support that one anymore |
| 10:24.24 | azeem | jmd`: not sure |
| 10:24.24 | Chandu | azeem: When it supposed to be out |
| 10:24.30 | azeem | Chandu: I don't know |
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| 10:24.38 | Chandu | azeem:ok |
| 10:24.40 | jmd` | Wonderful! |
| 10:24.41 | azeem | soon I think |
| 10:24.51 | azeem | jmd`: well, check the x.org website |
| 10:25.06 | Chandu | azeem: Is there any way to build our own distro based on Debian with G-I |
| 10:25.18 | jmd` | If it doesn't support it, then I'm stuffed? |
| 10:25.55 | azeem | Chandu: I'd wait until at least the beta is out |
| 10:26.01 | azeem | jmd`: try the vesa driver |
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| 10:26.48 | MZM | jmd`: it will work with nv driver. |
| 10:27.30 | jmd` | azeem: I'll try it. |
| 10:28.54 | azeem | jmd`: well try nv first if that isn't configured yet |
| 10:29.55 | jmd` | I'll try that too. (no dice with vesa) |
| 10:30.48 | jmd` | nv gets a bit further! "No core keyboard" is the error now. |
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| 10:33.24 | azeem | jmd`: check the installed input drivers |
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| 10:33.52 | jmd` | Wahoo! Success(ish). X starts, but the mouse doesn't work. Probably selected the wrong type? |
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| 10:35.36 | planetsim | im thinking about using debian. does debian support SATA? also whats debians raid support like? |
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| 10:36.46 | roxy_ | what time/day does backup-manager do the back up ? I had a look in backup-manager.conf but can't find anything relevant |
| 10:37.03 | Eulex | planetsim, yes, debian supports sata. but the kernel in debian stable might not support your sata *chipset*. |
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| 10:38.47 | MZM | roxy_: one day too late ;) |
| 10:39.37 | roxy_ | oops. found it in cron.daily/backup-manager. Is cron run if the time is passed but the system was shutdown at that time ? |
| 10:39.38 | infernix | roxy_: probably want to check crontabs; /etc/cron.*/* or crontab -l -u backup (or maybe backupmanager, no idea which user it runs as) |
| 10:39.42 | roxy_ | MZM: :-) |
| 10:39.54 | infernix | roxy_: nope. cron doesnt do that. |
| 10:39.56 | c|int | hello all, I was just trying to set up a gentoo system.. on my laptop. and its complex as heck, was doing the minimal install, and to think debian was a little difficult, for getting resolution, on laptop right, and workstation, but its all worht it, especially the new books I just got |
| 10:40.01 | planetsim | Eulex, do you know where i could find a list of supported chipsets? |
| 10:40.12 | roxy_ | infernix: what is the cron like prog that does it ? |
| 10:40.21 | c|int | planetsim: , sata , you can enable that ot the kernel . |
| 10:40.25 | infernix | roxy_: i think 'at' can. not sure tho. |
| 10:40.32 | c|int | and yes, debian supports raid, and supports alot of systems |
| 10:40.50 | jmd` | Well I can run startx now, but when I switch to runlevel 4, I just get a "Failed to start the X server" message. |
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| 10:41.09 | c|int | I'll help you rebuild your X configuriong |
| 10:41.19 | c|int | configuration.. which version of debian are you running |
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| 10:42.01 | jmd` | etch |
| 10:42.19 | c|int | okay.. are you in console |
| 10:42.27 | roxy_ | infernix: cron is gonna be good enough |
| 10:42.30 | jmd` | yes |
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| 10:42.38 | pdani | hi |
| 10:42.43 | c|int | okay , switch to super user.. . su - |
| 10:42.47 | jmd` | yes |
| 10:42.52 | c|int | and then run the command... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 10:42.52 | roxy_ | infernix: thanks |
| 10:43.01 | pdani | how can i start a dd, and check its state during the process? |
| 10:43.04 | jmd` | done that already. |
| 10:43.10 | c|int | okay |
| 10:43.16 | c|int | what type of video card do you have |
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| 10:43.33 | jmd` | It's not an X config problem anymore. It's gdm/xdm I think. |
| 10:43.45 | jmd` | Like I say, "startx" works now. |
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| 10:44.15 | dazjorz | Hi |
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| 10:44.31 | planetsim | thanks c|int |
| 10:44.44 | dazjorz | I need to format a partition as ext3 (or reiser) how do I do that ? |
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| 10:44.56 | petemc | mkfs.ext3 |
| 10:44.57 | dazjorz | is there an easier tool ? |
| 10:45.00 | dazjorz | oh ok, thnaks |
| 10:45.09 | c|int | yes |
| 10:45.17 | c|int | gparted. etc. and they have others for KDE |
| 10:45.26 | c|int | and other gui's.. desktop environments, if you wish .. gui |
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| 10:47.35 | c|int | me,, I"m doing my custom system again, with XFS :) |
| 10:48.21 | EvilDin | hm how do i add sl_SI locale in utf8 encoding? |
| 10:49.26 | petemc | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 10:55.01 | Edward_TLS | can I check my disk firmware from linux... ? |
| 10:55.06 | Chandu | is etch beta3 release going to be with G-I |
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| 10:55.39 | g333k | Hi Folks |
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| 10:56.38 | EvilDin | petemc am when i choose to install that sl_SI.UTF-8, i made it good, but whe i choose it in php application doesn't work |
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| 10:58.05 | EvilDin | ok i already solve, apache2 restart vas needed |
| 10:58.09 | EvilDin | *was |
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| 11:07.00 | dany_ | Hello |
| 11:08.25 | liable | hola |
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| 11:10.07 | infernix | i have some obscure libs that'll be going into /usr/local on several machines, so i'd like to package it as a .deb. what should I use? stow? |
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| 11:10.45 | dany_ | hello |
| 11:10.55 | dany_ | I would need help on netcat |
| 11:11.17 | dany_ | I'm trying to make a script that emulate an smtp client session with it |
| 11:11.36 | dany_ | how can I make it wait for answers ? |
| 11:12.08 | wam | dany_: don't do this with netcat. Lern any scripting language you want and use this. |
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| 11:13.15 | Fox | dany_: apt-cache show expect |
| 11:13.35 | liable | is verdana fonts available in the repos? |
| 11:14.00 | Fox | liable: msttcorefonts ? |
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| 11:14.39 | liable | Fox: thats what i thought, i installed that, but dont have verdana.. |
| 11:14.45 | Fox | fox@host1 :~$apt-cache show msttcorefonts | grep Verdana |
| 11:14.46 | Fox | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:14.46 | Fox | fox@host1 :~$ |
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| 11:14.51 | Fox | you did something wrong then |
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| 11:15.22 | g333k | Hi, whats the best way to install java in debian etch? |
| 11:15.26 | Fox | I'm a font tard as well :) |
| 11:15.34 | infernix | g333k: apt-get install java-package |
| 11:15.38 | Shadowcat | >:) |
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| 11:16.07 | g333k | I mean is better than use the java from the sun page? |
| 11:16.22 | Shadowcat | !tell g333k about java-package |
| 11:16.28 | Shadowcat | !tell g333k about install java |
| 11:16.39 | g333k | I've already read that |
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| 11:17.07 | liable | doh, its tahoma, i got verdana.. |
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| 11:17.47 | liable | ah fuck it, verdana looks good enough |
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| 11:18.43 | Shadowcat | Fox: there are kids in here |
| 11:18.55 | Shadowcat | at least draw the curtains before you do that |
| 11:18.56 | Shadowcat | ! |
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| 11:22.27 | g333k | If I use j2re from sun's page I dont need java-package right? |
| 11:22.36 | Shadowcat | ..... |
| 11:22.43 | Shadowcat | you obviously didn't understand that factoid |
| 11:23.18 | Shadowcat | speaking of |
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| 11:23.23 | Shadowcat | did they freeze the packages in sid? |
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| 11:23.58 | petemc | Shadowcat: no, they never do |
| 11:24.13 | Shadowcat | strange |
| 11:24.18 | Shadowcat | no updates from tomorrow to today |
| 11:24.30 | petemc | you want updates from the future? |
| 11:24.31 | Shadowcat | petemc: well they're pretty much frozen for a while before a major release |
| 11:24.36 | Shadowcat | err |
| 11:24.42 | Shadowcat | from yesturday to today I mean |
| 11:24.51 | Shadowcat | it really shows I've spent 10 hours hacking C++ |
| 11:24.55 | petemc | they freeze testing |
| 11:24.58 | azeem | a problem with the archive scripts is more likely |
| 11:25.06 | Shadowcat | azeem: ah ok |
| 11:25.06 | azeem | they somtimes hang/take ages |
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| 11:25.18 | g333k | Shadowcat, tell me yes or not |
| 11:25.43 | azeem | g333k: use java-package |
| 11:25.59 | Shadowcat | sigh |
| 11:25.59 | Shadowcat | ¨ |
| 11:26.07 | Shadowcat | now I have to figure out how to run svn+ssh in Windows |
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| 11:39.16 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 11:39.17 | dpkg | <rich_> Thats really the reason you have so much trouble. Linux is just a kernel to you. Without the apps yould be lost. For me, the kernel is the os, and if thats all I had, Id write my own apps |
| 11:40.09 | liable | why is dpkg +v again? |
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| 11:45.02 | thyko | im on debian sarge3.1 |
| 11:45.27 | thyko | i put the Protocol 2 setting on /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 11:45.41 | thyko | but its still alowing ssh1 connections through |
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| 11:45.53 | thyko | actually none of the settings i put there work! |
| 11:45.55 | thyko | why? |
| 11:46.02 | azeem | did you restart the daemon? |
| 11:46.03 | jduggan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:46.05 | thyko | yes |
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| 11:46.13 | thyko | the entire machine actually |
| 11:46.15 | thyko | twice |
| 11:46.17 | petemc | !debug sshd |
| 11:46.18 | dpkg | To debug sshd (server), run this as root on the server: "/usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222". Then use "ssh -p 2222 username@servername" on the client. |
| 11:46.42 | thyko | !thanks |
| 11:46.42 | dpkg | no problem, thyko |
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| 11:49.17 | jmd` | After getting my xserver finally working, I find that I can no longer switch to a terminal using Ctrl-F1 Has this feature been removed? |
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| 11:52.21 | tunedi | try alt-ctrl-F1 ? |
| 11:52.45 | Ronin | ctrl alt f7 to get back as well jmd` |
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| 11:53.59 | g333k | Hey friends, I feel my debian very slow, I have a P4 3Ghz + HT, 1G RAM, and it's supposed to work "fast", but I feel it very slow, any advice to optimize my debian? |
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| 11:54.07 | bl00dz3r0 | hello |
| 11:54.23 | bl00dz3r0 | how to create deb boot floppy from windows? |
| 11:54.27 | bl00dz3r0 | windows xp sp2 |
| 11:55.59 | jmd` | g333k: What in particular is slow? |
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| 11:56.43 | GeNiUS | bl00dz3r0: can u download debian bootdisk image file and later write it with ultraiso program to flopy disk. |
| 11:57.20 | bl00dz3r0 | hmmm boot.img |
| 11:57.21 | bl00dz3r0 | or root.img? |
| 11:57.32 | GeNiUS | boot.img |
| 11:57.43 | GeNiUS | him wait. |
| 11:57.54 | liable | bl00dz3r0: have a read of the install guide, it tells you how |
| 11:58.20 | g333k | jmd, well when I have azureus and mercury msn, both use java..... and sometimes amsn looks slow.... switching from one window to another I feel a delay, even launching some apps, and firefox looks very heavy |
| 11:58.45 | dimir | čä00Ć http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en check section 4.3.2 |
| 11:58.48 | bl00dz3r0 | install guide ;_ |
| 11:58.49 | bl00dz3r0 | :) |
| 11:58.51 | dimir | Oops. |
| 11:58.57 | dimir | bl00dz3r0: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en check section 4.3.2 |
| 11:59.01 | bl00dz3r0 | tnx |
| 11:59.04 | dimir | np |
| 11:59.08 | bl00dz3r0 | i see now |
| 11:59.31 | bl00dz3r0 | but here write that rewrite program can be used only in dos?? |
| 11:59.39 | bl00dz3r0 | Trying to use these programs from within a DOS box in Windows |
| 11:59.47 | dimir | Is that a problem? |
| 11:59.51 | dimir | Use cmd. |
| 11:59.53 | bl00dz3r0 | i try now |
| 11:59.53 | bl00dz3r0 | :) |
| 12:01.48 | dimir | http://debian.teleglobe.net/tools/ there is rwwrtwin |
| 12:02.04 | dimir | Maybe it even works. :-P |
| 12:03.11 | bl00dz3r0 | i try now |
| 12:03.12 | bl00dz3r0 | tnx :) |
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| 12:05.23 | bl00dz3r0 | i get rewrite2 |
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| 12:07.41 | dimir | get rwwrtwin, I thinkk rawrite is for DOS. |
| 12:08.21 | bl00dz3r0 | i write something on disk |
| 12:08.24 | bl00dz3r0 | must reboot to try out |
| 12:08.24 | bl00dz3r0 | :0 |
| 12:08.30 | bl00dz3r0 | wish me luck |
| 12:08.31 | bl00dz3r0 | :) |
| 12:08.58 | spo0nman | is there something that runs on linux that i can use to create quake 3 maps? |
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| 12:12.55 | jengelh | perl -e 'fork while 1' |
| 12:13.16 | biz | i need some help using awk or sed.. i've got a file with hundreds of lines (nothing else in there!) of the following. each one separated by a newline. i need to create a bash variable with the value of the matching value. please note the spaces and sometimes special chars within the value. here comes one example line: |
| 12:13.21 | biz | <option class="opa" value="500 Ft. of Pipe">500 Ft. of Pipe |
| 12:13.42 | biz | this is what i need: "500 Ft. of Pipe" |
| 12:13.55 | jengelh | who says the string ends there? |
| 12:14.06 | jengelh | html allows it to continue on the next line |
| 12:14.44 | biz | oh, i didn't know that. then i think the second double quote ends it? however i would need to cut out the newline within the value, if so |
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| 12:15.30 | biz | however within my file all these lines are on one line |
| 12:15.39 | biz | whatever html allows |
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| 12:16.03 | ApTek | LS |
| 12:16.05 | jengelh | you're missing </option> |
| 12:16.19 | ApTek | gah |
| 12:16.39 | biz | no closing </option> in there |
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| 12:17.22 | dimir | Your XML is fsked then. |
| 12:17.28 | dimir | fscked too. |
| 12:18.30 | jengelh | use a proper parser, then use a proper perl->bash thing |
| 12:18.33 | biz | who cares? i don't need the rendered output, i just need the data in there.. if the html or xml is not valid, i don't care |
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| 12:18.45 | jengelh | who cares? maybe you do when it behaves unexpectedly |
| 12:18.50 | biz | no |
| 12:18.53 | jengelh | RFC791 says you should be liberal in what you accept |
| 12:19.00 | biz | i'm sure i can get this out without a parser |
| 12:19.09 | jengelh | yes you can, technically |
| 12:19.18 | biz | so, why do you blame on me? |
| 12:19.26 | jengelh | It's not The Right Thing To Do |
| 12:19.43 | biz | thanks for your help |
| 12:19.47 | jengelh | np |
| 12:20.31 | biz | 25 |
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| 12:22.46 | bl00dz3r0 | grr |
| 12:22.47 | bl00dz3r0 | :) |
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| 12:23.35 | bl00dz3r0 | i have root.img net-boot.img and boot.img which of them to write with rawrite? |
| 12:23.45 | SlayerXP | the one you want |
| 12:24.00 | bl00dz3r0 | what is diferense |
| 12:24.14 | bl00dz3r0 | diference |
| 12:24.30 | SlayerXP | bl00dz3r0: is that not indicated on the place where you downloaded them from? |
| 12:25.03 | bl00dz3r0 | problem is when i first write |
| 12:25.12 | bl00dz3r0 | my flopie dont work now:) |
| 12:25.18 | bl00dz3r0 | rawrite destroy him :) |
| 12:26.29 | bl00dz3r0 | i downloaded from : http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/floppy/ |
| 12:26.54 | bl00dz3r0 | ok i get manifest |
| 12:26.56 | bl00dz3r0 | of img |
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| 12:28.38 | manju | #firewalls |
| 12:29.47 | eps | mmm what is a dcpp server for linux? I can't find the one I'm trying to remember in apt-cache? |
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| 12:32.07 | manju | Hi.. Anyone confirtable with irssi? |
| 12:32.15 | Ronin | manju: some are some arent |
| 12:32.18 | manju | I need some help.. |
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| 12:32.39 | eps | don't ask to ask |
| 12:32.41 | Ronin | manju: ask your question then but #irssi knows all about irssi |
| 12:32.58 | manju | Ooops.. sorry... But... |
| 12:33.27 | manju | I have joined three different channells.. How do i swicth b/w them |
| 12:33.34 | manju | any shortcut keys.. |
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| 12:33.46 | Ronin | aft # |
| 12:33.59 | Ronin | doh, i mean alt # as in alt 4 etc |
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| 12:35.38 | manju | Ronin: Doesnt work :( |
| 12:35.51 | manju | i pressed alt + 1 |
| 12:35.55 | manju | and alt + 2 |
| 12:36.02 | manju | no changes |
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| 12:36.11 | Ronin | then it may be a term thing, www.irssi.org but in the mean time /window # also works |
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| 12:36.53 | manju | nope.. neither doesn /window.. I tried that.. However ... /chanel #chanlel name.. works |
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| 12:37.25 | liable | manju: ^n, ^p and esc then <window no> |
| 12:38.48 | liable | capish? |
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| 12:39.41 | liable | manju: ^n, ^p and esc then <window no> |
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| 12:42.29 | manju_ | clear |
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| 12:44.22 | manju_ | . |
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| 12:45.08 | biz | jengelh: sed -ne 's/.*value="\(.*\)".*/\1/p' data.lst | while read line; do... just does the trick, thanks to #bash. sometimes you have to use kind of invalid, broken data.. so for you i should have first made sure the xml is valid and then parse it.. for what? wasted time. now don't blame on me, i just wanted to give you this tip for the next time you want to help (or blame?) someone. cheers |
| 12:45.09 | spo0nman | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:45.31 | Ronin | think you missed part of that command spo0nman |
| 12:45.52 | spo0nman | Ronin: and i did it in the wrong server. |
| 12:45.55 | Ronin | spo0nman: heh |
| 12:46.02 | spo0nman | :-| |
| 12:46.20 | spo0nman | :) |
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| 12:52.42 | wdamn | Hi, I'm trying to make udev 093 work with a usb pen - I've found different tutorials but it still doesn't work: I think it's a version-tutorial problem |
| 12:53.00 | debbon | I am installing Debian and I wonder whether it's possible to have modular xorg installed |
| 12:53.03 | debbon | thanks |
| 12:53.06 | wdamn | do you know a good tutorial for debian etch, udev and usb drive? |
| 12:53.22 | debbon | I need deperately modular xorg |
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| 12:53.44 | wdamn | debbon: initrd ? |
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| 12:54.18 | Drune | hi guys |
| 12:54.32 | Drune | how ignore certain packages in a apt-get upgrade? |
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| 12:55.08 | krins | hi all i am installing debain 32 bit 2.6 kernel on amd 64 |
| 12:55.14 | krins | i have sata drive |
| 12:55.31 | krins | during installation it wont pick sata drive |
| 12:55.38 | krins | waht to do |
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| 12:55.53 | debbon | wdamn: what was that |
| 12:56.00 | manju_ | krins: during bootup.. try.. |
| 12:56.02 | nakeee | Drune, you can do it with aptitude |
| 12:56.06 | manju_ | linux26 |
| 12:56.19 | krins | what i tru on bootup |
| 12:56.25 | krins | i do linux26 |
| 12:56.29 | manju_ | It works for sarge 3.1 |
| 12:56.33 | Drune | nakeee, how? i want to ignore all zope-* packages |
| 12:56.43 | krins | it picks ip frpm dhcp |
| 12:56.48 | manju_ | krins: Yes.. In the boot prompt.. type linux26 and hit enter |
| 12:57.09 | nakeee | Drune, just deselect them or use pinning to tell apt to keep their version |
| 12:57.12 | wdamn | debbon: if you use initrd image you can compile static stuff as modular |
| 12:57.25 | debbon | ayone know whether modular xorg is available for Debian |
| 12:57.30 | krins | i give hostname but when it goes for disk partioning it says no partition medium found |
| 12:57.41 | krins | check hard dissk is connected to ur system |
| 12:57.45 | debbon | wdamn: I am talking about X in order to have a Graphical interface |
| 12:58.24 | wdamn | debbon: explain your problem |
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| 12:59.14 | krins | manju am doing that |
| 12:59.18 | manju_ | krins: that means ur SATA controller is not detected |
| 12:59.26 | manju_ | krins: k |
| 12:59.29 | krins | it seesm odd |
| 12:59.43 | krins | should i try debain for amd |
| 12:59.44 | Tallu | uhm is it possible to partition the drive with the lvm during install or should i go for a big chunk during install and partition right after that? |
| 12:59.49 | debbon | wdamn: well I have installed minimal Debian and I am in cli, now I am trying to install Xorg for the X system and I wonder whether xorg 7 is available the one that was made modular |
| 13:00.15 | manju_ | krins: ??? |
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| 13:00.34 | freebox | hello! |
| 13:00.44 | freebox | I can "assist" an ssh session? |
| 13:00.53 | krins | yes |
| 13:00.58 | freebox | how? |
| 13:01.18 | wdamn | debbon: why do you need xorg module? |
| 13:01.25 | SlayerXP | freebox: call the person concerned and talk to them |
| 13:01.36 | manju_ | krins: what do u mean by shall i try debian for AMD? |
| 13:02.16 | azeem | freebox: the `screen' package can do that |
| 13:02.22 | freebox | hmm |
| 13:02.38 | Tallu | this is going to take a while.. guesses: 0 time: 0:06:03:46 (3) c/s: 4086 trying: 10dsuD |
| 13:02.46 | debbon | wdamn: because I have and old system and in this way I can install just what I need |
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| 13:03.08 | debbon | wdamn: is not a modular, it's X made modular |
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| 13:03.38 | debbon | wdamn: xorg 7.0 |
| 13:04.12 | debbon | does anyone know whether xorg is available for Debian Sarge |
| 13:04.26 | manju_ | debbon: Yes it does |
| 13:04.50 | debbon | manju_: I've tried to search in aptitute like this xorg and nothing came up |
| 13:04.51 | manju_ | debbon: apt-cache search xserver |
| 13:04.54 | Drune | nakeee, i just want to ignore all packages started by zope word. |
| 13:05.02 | krins | manju |
| 13:05.04 | krins | what i do now |
| 13:05.11 | krins | its realy imp to do |
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| 13:05.16 | debbon | manju_: why not aptitude? |
| 13:05.35 | manju_ | debbon: ur wish.. |
| 13:05.42 | manju_ | debbon: anything |
| 13:05.53 | debbon | manju_: thanks :-) |
| 13:06.02 | manju_ | np |
| 13:06.11 | azeem | manju_: xorg is not available for Debian sarge |
| 13:06.15 | azeem | it is only in backports |
| 13:06.51 | manju_ | azeem: if i do apt-cache search xserver i see quite alot of result... |
| 13:07.11 | manju_ | xserver-xorg-driver-i128 - X.Org X server -- i128 display driver |
| 13:07.12 | manju_ | xserver-xorg-driver-i740 - X.Org X server -- i740 display driver |
| 13:07.12 | manju_ | xserver-xorg-driver-i810 - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver |
| 13:07.20 | manju_ | Just a few |
| 13:07.36 | azeem | manju_: you're either not running sarge or have backports in your sources list |
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| 13:07.51 | manju_ | azeem: Sarge for sure... 3.1 |
| 13:08.00 | azeem | manju_: and no testing or unstable in sources.list? |
| 13:08.03 | manju_ | backports.. lemme check one sec |
| 13:08.07 | azeem | !+info xserver-xorg-driver-i128 sarge |
| 13:08.08 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 13:08.10 | dpkg | Package 'xserver-xorg-driver-i128' does not exist. |
| 13:08.13 | manju_ | azeem: sorry my mistake... Its there |
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| 13:08.22 | manju_ | testing and few other repositories |
| 13:08.32 | manju_ | azeem: thnx for the correction |
| 13:08.36 | manju_ | :) |
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| 13:09.09 | debbon | manju_: why isn't showing that on mine? nothing appears as xserver xorg, what mirror do you have? |
| 13:10.49 | azeem | debbon: it is only in backports, see backports.org |
| 13:10.54 | azeem | x.org 6.9, that is |
| 13:11.02 | azeem | xorg 7.0 is not available for sarge at all |
| 13:11.37 | debbon | can I mix testing packages with sarge? |
| 13:11.47 | manju_ | debbon: ur own risk.. |
| 13:11.49 | azeem | debbon: it's not recommended |
| 13:11.56 | azeem | debbon: use backports, rather |
| 13:12.13 | manju_ | debbon: I have done that but never faced a problem sofar... But its all upto u |
| 13:12.32 | Tallu | hmm! |
| 13:12.37 | azeem | this channel in general does not support people who do that |
| 13:13.10 | manju_ | Well.. A choice |
| 13:13.12 | manju_ | :) |
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| 13:13.34 | m0dY | hello, is there any limit of the number of passed packages to apt-get ? |
| 13:14.05 | azeem | manju_: yeah, but if you recommend it to people, you should promise to support them with problems as well, as we do not in general |
| 13:14.08 | Tallu | I'm going to partition my drive with LVM, so that I can dynamically set /home etc sizes. can I do it during installation or should it be done right after the installation, or can it be done later? |
| 13:14.21 | nemontemi | m0dY: did you overflowed it? =P I don't know the answer to you question... but it's a bit strange =P |
| 13:14.48 | azeem | m0dY: maybe pass them to apt-get via xargs |
| 13:14.55 | debbon | azeem: where is the repository for xorg 7? |
| 13:15.04 | azeem | debbon: for sarge? |
| 13:15.22 | debbon | azeem: yeah |
| 13:15.25 | azeem | 15:02 < azeem> xorg 7.0 is not available for sarge at all |
| 13:15.31 | m0dY | nemontemi: well, for some reason when i do `apt-get install pkg1 pkg2....etc` till about 50 pkgs it some how strangely skips some pkgs from the middle and when i get those pkgs to be installed in a separate apt-get process they're well done |
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| 13:16.02 | debbon | manju_: where is the repository of xorg 7 for sarge? |
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| 13:16.11 | m0dY | azeem: how to pass them by xargs ? |
| 13:16.11 | azeem | debbon: are you not listening? |
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| 13:16.32 | debbon | azeem: he said he did it, will xorg 6 be ok then? |
| 13:16.34 | azeem | m0dY: see the xargs documentation |
| 13:16.42 | azeem | debbon: he said he made a mistake |
| 13:16.51 | cydork | !tell debbon about sarge xorg |
| 13:16.57 | ktwilight | would openvz work well with debian sarge? |
| 13:17.00 | azeem | debbon: there is no functional difference between xorg 6.9 and 7.0 |
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| 13:17.10 | azeem | debbon: unless you are an xorg developer/hacker, than it might matter to you |
| 13:17.11 | ktwilight | from openvz's wiki, there's a doc for debian installation |
| 13:17.23 | ktwilight | but the kernel is 2.6.16, so i'm thinking, it's most likely running sid? |
| 13:17.34 | krins | manju any idea |
| 13:17.43 | krins | how i install |
| 13:17.46 | krins | debian |
| 13:17.49 | Eclipser | how can I set a parameter to a module which would then be loaded automatically on boot? |
| 13:18.00 | azeem | Eclipser: /etc/modprobe.d |
| 13:18.10 | azeem | Eclipser: and /etc/modules |
| 13:18.12 | debbon | azeem: do I add backports.org to the source list? Sorry but I am in the cli installer and with no X I can't browse online |
| 13:18.31 | nemontemi | m0dY: ah, try the xargs aproach, like azeem said |
| 13:18.37 | azeem | debbon: use a text mode browser like lynx or links |
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| 13:18.53 | azeem | debbon: you can easily break your system with backports, so please read the instructions on backports.org |
| 13:19.08 | m0dY | nemontemi: will check the man pgs |
| 13:19.22 | azeem | Eclipser: actually, I think you can just add "foo io=bar" to /etc/modules |
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| 13:19.51 | Eclipser | azeem, the module is loaded by udev I think |
| 13:19.58 | scarface | what do I have to do if the X server wont start anymore, because I switched monitors to a LCD? |
| 13:20.04 | abrotman | Eclipser: doesn't matter |
| 13:20.06 | azeem | Eclipser: so it is loaded, just not with the right parameters? |
| 13:20.15 | Eclipser | yep |
| 13:20.30 | azeem | Eclipser: then add the params somewhere to /etc/modprobe.d I'd say |
| 13:20.34 | thyko | how do i install many packages at once with aptget? |
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| 13:20.53 | azeem | apt-get install package1 package2 package3... |
| 13:20.54 | infernix | thyko: apt-get install package1 package2 package3 |
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| 13:22.33 | Zaib | scarface: was X working when u were on ur normal monitor ? |
| 13:22.53 | debbon | sorry where do I find the source list? |
| 13:22.58 | |dennis| | Question: for the weekly builds of the testing distribution, aka etch, how comes the last weekly release was on the 17th of July and not 23rd July |
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| 13:23.15 | debbon | got it |
| 13:23.21 | abrotman | |dennis|: maybe they were busy? |
| 13:23.35 | mha13 | where can i get libqt-perl ? |
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| 13:24.41 | |dennis| | abrotman: maybe..heh..thanks...just wondering... |
| 13:25.03 | mha13 | i can't find it in testing |
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| 13:26.40 | scarface | how can I reconfigure the X server? I've changed the monitor and X doesnt want to show me the graphical screen :( |
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| 13:27.47 | cydork | mha13: it is in the main repo. Are you have proper mirrors listed or updated? |
| 13:28.13 | infernix | im having trouble displaying something in X whilst in a chrooted enviroinment. i ran "xhost +127.0.0.1" and "export DISPLAY=:0.0" but xterm isnt showing. what did i forget? |
| 13:29.30 | mha13 | cydork:yep ill try changing the mirror.. |
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| 13:30.53 | mha13 | what package holds the kcm_kicker.la file /what to send to dpkg bot to know how to search for it ? |
| 13:31.17 | petemc | search |
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| 13:32.25 | roxy_ | is this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html the best thing to read to secure a home computer ? |
| 13:33.30 | maer4 | is there a way to make a "beep" sound coming out of the pc speaker by running a command in console ? |
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| 13:33.56 | petemc | !beep |
| 13:33.57 | dpkg | [beep] /exec -o echo -ne "\007". A generic application level transport, with multiple channels over TCP and a nice standard auth section + many other goodies, see www.beepcore.org for more info, or apt-get install beep, or ^G, or a buggy xmms gtk2 port |
| 13:34.04 | mha13 | petemc: 10x .. |
| 13:34.10 | mop | hi guys, i'm trying to use gdbserver on a mipsel sarge connected with gdb under x86 and I have "Reply contains invalid hex digit 59", some suggest (all packets are official) |
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| 13:34.21 | lnxr | hey |
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| 13:34.30 | lnxr | how do i uninstall a package in debian? |
| 13:34.40 | Ronin | lnxr: apt-get remove |
| 13:34.46 | lnxr | thanks |
| 13:35.14 | mha13 | im getting an error that kcm_kicker.la is missing but "apt-file search kcm_kicker.la" gave no output |
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| 13:36.23 | abrotman | !tell lnxr about grounding |
| 13:36.26 | abrotman | !tell lnxr about refcard |
| 13:36.47 | cydork | mha13: your repositories are definately not updated !! it's there in kcontrol: usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kicker.la |
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| 13:38.41 | mha13 | cydork:i even changed to other mirror (using testing) .. |
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| 13:38.44 | lnxr | okay, one more question that doesnt involve debian, but it involves X windows |
| 13:38.47 | lnxr | is that okay? |
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| 13:38.47 | fjsanchez | Hi |
| 13:40.05 | ec_ | One of my Debian boxes does not display the lines and windows in curses console apps correctly |
| 13:40.17 | cydork | mha13: did you do apt-get update? |
| 13:40.27 | mha13 | cydork:yep .. |
| 13:40.48 | fjsanchez | I'd like to catch all HTTP headers incoming and outgoing, modify them and them proceed to send or receive, how can I do this? |
| 13:40.51 | ec_ | I get lots of accented characters and such |
| 13:40.52 | mha13 | cydork: can it becouse im behind proxy ? |
| 13:41.19 | ec_ | I'm not sure if it's a locale problem - the box is set to en_US |
| 13:41.21 | lnxr | wheres the .conf file that stores the configuration for x windows? |
| 13:41.47 | ec_ | lnxr: man xorg.conf |
| 13:41.49 | mha13 | lnxr: /etc/X11 |
| 13:41.53 | lnxr | thanks |
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| 13:49.04 | lnxr | hmm, in xwindows, ive set it up wrong (messed up in the initial settings) |
| 13:49.13 | lnxr | the ones that it asks for when its first installed |
| 13:49.17 | lnxr | can i get back to that? |
| 13:49.26 | lnxr | there is no xorg.conf :( |
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| 13:50.10 | mha13 | lnxr: get into /etc/x11 |
| 13:50.32 | mha13 | lnxr: do you use xfree or xorg? |
| 13:50.44 | lnxr | i dont have a clue lol |
| 13:51.31 | lnxr | theres no xfree.conf either |
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| 13:52.46 | abrotman | XF86Config-4 |
| 13:52.53 | jharrisonwk | blah |
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| 13:53.02 | abrotman | lnxr: what are you trying to do? |
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| 13:53.19 | abrotman | mha13: did you find libqt-perl ? |
| 13:53.32 | lnxr | im trying to get x windows working with fluxbox |
| 13:53.38 | mha13 | abrotman:still not .. |
| 13:53.41 | abrotman | lnxr: and what's the problem? |
| 13:53.49 | abrotman | mha13: apt-cache policy libqt-perl .. what does it say? |
| 13:53.50 | debbon | the cli mouse is it hard to set up? |
| 13:54.00 | abrotman | debbon: apt-get install gpm |
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| 13:54.08 | debbon | abrotman: thanks |
| 13:54.18 | abrotman | might take some tinkering though |
| 13:54.30 | mha13 | abrotman:W: Unable to locate package libqt-perl |
| 13:54.47 | mha13 | i try to connect to difrent proxy .. |
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| 13:55.02 | Jemt | Greetz. I need some data files from a Windows game (Quake 4) in order to get the server to work. Unfortunately I no longer uses Windows. Is there some way I can extract the files from the .exe file ? |
| 13:55.58 | abrotman | Jemt: unzip or unrar maybe .. use file to determine the file type .. otherwise .. ask on quakenet or whatever it is |
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| 13:56.37 | Jemt | I'll give it at shot as soon as the Q4Demo is fetched. Thanks, abrotman :) |
| 13:56.40 | debbon | abrotman: does it matter what input I choose? I have many mice in /dev which one should I pick? |
| 13:57.12 | abrotman | debbon: /dev/input/mice if it will work |
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| 13:57.18 | lnxr | abrobotman: x windows is crashing because i messed up the keyboard and mouse settings when i installed it |
| 13:57.23 | SN^Vampire | hello |
| 13:57.31 | debbon | abrotman: thanks |
| 13:57.38 | lnxr | oops |
| 13:57.39 | lnxr | lol |
| 13:57.40 | abrotman | !drxx lnxr |
| 13:57.40 | dpkg | lnxr: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:57.42 | lnxr | abrotman* |
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| 13:58.04 | SN^Vampire | somebody tell me how to make transparent application buttons in taskbar? |
| 13:58.13 | abrotman | WHICH taskbar? |
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| 13:58.35 | SN^Vampire | where clock and tray |
| 13:58.38 | SN^Vampire | :) |
| 13:58.58 | mha11 | at last i got libqt-perl !!! (i changed proxy ... ) |
| 13:59.01 | abrotman | SN^Vampire: IN WHAT ? KDE? GNOME? what? |
| 13:59.04 | SN^Vampire | KDE |
| 13:59.18 | abrotman | have you asked #kde? |
| 13:59.20 | SN^Vampire | yes |
| 13:59.25 | SN^Vampire | silcence |
| 13:59.26 | abrotman | and they said? |
| 13:59.28 | abrotman | so wait |
| 13:59.40 | abrotman | ask #debian-kde if you want |
| 13:59.51 | SN^Vampire | ok |
| 13:59.57 | mha11 | does anyone know how to install lexmark all-in-one x3330 printer ? .. |
| 14:00.10 | mha11 | or to use win driver icups ? |
| 14:00.19 | mha11 | *in cups |
| 14:00.56 | debbon | greatĄĄ I don't have middle button because it's a lousy apple mouseĄĄ |
| 14:01.17 | abrotman | debbon: do you even have two buttons? |
| 14:01.55 | Jemt | SN^Vampire: You might find this interesting too : http://www.kde.me.uk/index.php?page=x-6.8-xcomposite-howto |
| 14:01.56 | debbon | abrotman: has one... is there a combination key which I can use in order to paste? |
| 14:02.12 | abrotman | NFC .. i have a mac but not an apple mouse :) |
| 14:02.40 | debbon | damnĄĄ |
| 14:02.57 | abrotman | maybe ask #debianppc |
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| 14:03.48 | abrotman | simonrvn: http://www.yahoo.com/s/355680 .. notice the quotes from the archaeologist |
| 14:04.05 | abrotman | bah .. nm .. |
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| 14:11.16 | winters | sziasztok |
| 14:11.32 | Hoxzer | I agreed |
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| 14:15.47 | Myrth | hi |
| 14:15.48 | Myrth | if i'll kill ext2prepare will it break fs? |
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| 14:16.37 | Gathond | Myrth: I would not attempt it:), not sure if it breaks but from what its supposed to do I would assume so |
| 14:16.54 | Myrth | :( takes long time |
| 14:17.04 | Myrth | and i just learned that i could do i online using lvextend |
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| 14:17.09 | jrf | it would likely cause corruption |
| 14:17.46 | Gathond | would lvextend not just change the partition? |
| 14:18.01 | peterS | correct |
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| 14:18.30 | Gathond | in what case lvextend would as far as I know require the filesystem to be resized before anyway |
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| 14:19.24 | Myrth | i did lvresize before |
| 14:19.40 | Myrth | but fs didn't grow, i didn't know the difference between partition and fs |
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| 14:19.55 | Myrth | then i could resize using ext2online to 32G |
| 14:20.21 | Myrth | when lv is 200G |
| 14:20.41 | Myrth | so i had to run livecd |
| 14:21.00 | Myrth | and while i was running ext2prepare, i've read that i can do it with lvextend online |
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| 14:25.02 | Elops | how do we hide folder or file..not to mention adding . in front of it which still can be visible by show hidden file ? |
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| 14:25.08 | lnxr | whats the package name for firefox? (apt-get install <package>) |
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| 14:25.46 | Hoxzer | Elops: add "." in front of the name |
| 14:25.58 | Hoxzer | if that's what you mean |
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| 14:26.03 | Ronin | lnxr: apt-cache search |
| 14:27.24 | fernandomm | hello, could someone help me with this problem? -> http://forumdebian.pastebin.ca/100853 |
| 14:27.32 | fernandomm | it is about nvidia driver on debian etch |
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| 14:29.15 | roxy_ | I added that line to /etc/timeouts : Al:*:*:*:2:0:0:5 I was expecting to have all users logged out after 2 mn. But I have been logged in for longer with no warning nothing :( |
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| 14:29.51 | roxy_ | I reload after making the change |
| 14:30.57 | Hoxzer | RELOAD |
| 14:31.10 | Hoxzer | dont reload god damnit |
| 14:31.12 | Hoxzer | >:D |
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| 14:32.01 | beefs | anyone familiar with mutt? |
| 14:32.13 | Hoxzer | roxy_: in BF2 you usually get killed if you reload |
| 14:32.14 | beefs | i'd like to know how i can see the contents of my 'mbox' file in the program |
| 14:32.22 | Hoxzer | roxy_: :D it is just so funny |
| 14:32.30 | petemc | beefs: mutt -f /path/to/mxbox |
| 14:32.30 | Hoxzer | noway to survive |
| 14:32.38 | Hoxzer | well once I knifed 3 guys :DD |
| 14:32.41 | petemc | roxy_: or press c in mutt and navigate to it |
| 14:32.42 | Hoxzer | it was pretty lol |
| 14:32.47 | petemc | ermm |
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| 14:33.20 | beefs | thanks pete |
| 14:33.44 | roxy_ | Hoxzer: what is BF2 ? |
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| 14:34.38 | jes-o-mat | battlefiled 2 |
| 14:35.21 | roxy_ | I probably would have smiled if I have known |
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| 14:56.09 | thyko | is there a way i can quickly change my hostname? |
| 14:56.17 | thyko | and it be the same @ startup? |
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| 14:57.06 | cb | echo mynewhostname > /etc/hostname ? |
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| 14:58.08 | abrotman | !hostname |
| 14:58.08 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
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| 14:58.51 | Orfeous | where are the dhcp leases stored? |
| 14:58.57 | Orfeous | are there any file? |
| 14:59.05 | Orfeous | i just debian's default dhcp cklient |
| 14:59.06 | infernix | in /var/cache/dhcp* |
| 14:59.07 | Orfeous | client |
| 14:59.21 | Orfeous | i had no dhcp-dir.. |
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| 14:59.44 | Orfeous | dhcpcd is installed |
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| 15:01.16 | linuxboyfriend | hi all |
| 15:01.20 | linuxboyfriend | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.31 | cb | the client need no files? |
| 15:01.49 | Drakeson | what packages do I need to get my sound working? I assume this is not enough: alsa-base alsa-utils |
| 15:02.16 | thyko | !thanks |
| 15:02.17 | dpkg | thyko: pas de quoi |
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| 15:03.26 | ec_ | Drakeson: why do you assume that is not enough? |
| 15:03.42 | ec_ | that and kernel support should get you running |
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| 15:04.24 | Drakeson | I have got /dev/dsp there, alsamixer is in place, but I cannot make a sound! |
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| 15:05.23 | debbon | how do I update aptitude after fiddling with the configuration files? |
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| 15:05.51 | debbon | I get tons of errors after adding source lists |
| 15:05.52 | RoyK | hm. i just installed etch and it came up with gnome/[gx]dm. how can I have it _not_ start [xg]dm? |
| 15:06.03 | Orfeous | infernix: maybe i should change dhcp-client with better config.. |
| 15:06.10 | Orfeous | what is recommended? |
| 15:06.19 | linuxboyfriend | can anyone guide me about that cd writer question? |
| 15:06.41 | infernix | orpheus: i use dhcp3-client. but what is the actual problem? |
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| 15:07.21 | eleftherios | does anyone know how I can have readline support for php in Debian Etch? |
| 15:07.36 | abrotman | linuxboyfriend: just ask |
| 15:07.48 | abrotman | eleftherios: uh .. apt-cache search php5 .. look for it ? |
| 15:07.58 | eleftherios | abrotman, nothing |
| 15:08.05 | eleftherios | abrotman, I have searched and searched |
| 15:08.07 | Orfeous | infernix: there are no prbolem.. i just wonder if its possible to tell the client to look for a specific ip and if that is available it will be leased. |
| 15:08.11 | linuxboyfriend | abrotman: I have changed my cd rom with cd writer, do I have to make any change in fstab? or is there any tool to make automatic change in fstab? |
| 15:08.26 | Orfeous | infernix: i have mailed my ISP about this and he said that it was possible. |
| 15:08.29 | abrotman | i didn't mean to ask me :) |
| 15:08.37 | azeem | well, he asked before |
| 15:08.39 | roxy_ | is unstable woody or sid ? I am trying to understand dpkg's: use ln -s /etc/cups/cgi-bin /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin to get cups to print in woody or sid. |
| 15:08.40 | Shadowcat | any particular reason you got that nickname? |
| 15:08.42 | infernix | Orfeous: that's done in the dhcp server as a static lease, or in the dhclient.conf |
| 15:08.43 | abrotman | oh ..i missed it |
| 15:09.07 | Shadowcat | you know what's really sad |
| 15:09.08 | infernix | roxy_: woody=oldstable, sid=unstable |
| 15:09.09 | azeem | linuxboyfriend: your question is somewhat puzzeling, what do you want to achieve by adjusting fstab? |
| 15:09.23 | Orfeous | infernix: so it is possible to do? i can do anything about dhcp-server because its my ISP's :) |
| 15:09.29 | roxy_ | infernix: thats for me then |
| 15:09.30 | Orfeous | i can only do something about client |
| 15:09.33 | azeem | linuxboyfriend: if your cd writer is on the same IDE channel than your cd reader was, everything should be fine |
| 15:09.33 | roxy_ | infernix: thanks |
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| 15:09.37 | Shadowcat | I don't feel like installing an svn server on a windows box because I think Windows isn't stable enough |
| 15:09.38 | abrotman | eleftherios: where's the function in the docs? |
| 15:09.57 | infernix | Orfeous: man dhclient.conf |
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| 15:10.03 | eleftherios | abrotman, what function? |
| 15:10.15 | abrotman | eleftherios: it's suspect readline() is part of the php5 package .. no module needed |
| 15:10.16 | neo| | roxy_: i try some german channels too |
| 15:10.18 | thyko | !ssh debug |
| 15:10.24 | Orfeous | infernix: is it possible to do? |
| 15:10.28 | azeem | eleftherios: I guess the php5 license is incompatible to the GPL |
| 15:10.29 | azeem | duno |
| 15:10.31 | thyko | !sshd debug |
| 15:10.36 | infernix | Orfeous: if the server supports it. all depends on that. |
| 15:10.39 | azeem | that would explain why there is no libreadline support |
| 15:10.54 | eleftherios | abrotman, I am trying to use phpa (http://david.acz.org/phpa/) with php4 and it complains about lack of readline support. That was the point :-) |
| 15:10.56 | roxy_ | neo|: do /msg dpkg cups-unstable |
| 15:11.14 | baver | I've tried to update postgresql on my computer -- but I'm getting an error when trying to install postgresql-common_57_all.deb (pre-install script error 1). I'd like to find out why there's an error, but dpkg -D2000 doesn't print anything more. Anyone know how I can get some more info on why this is happening? |
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| 15:11.20 | abrotman | eleftherios: on php4 with apache1? |
| 15:11.20 | thyko | !sshd |
| 15:11.21 | Orfeous | infernix: ok, i am gonna try. how do i tell my debian that i want to use dhcp3-client instead of dhcpcd? |
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| 15:11.35 | eleftherios | abrotman, no, on php-cli |
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| 15:11.37 | infernix | Orfeous: apt-get install dhcp3-client |
| 15:11.49 | eleftherios | abrotman, I use apache2 by the way |
| 15:12.00 | abrotman | if it's cli .. i don't think apache version will matter |
| 15:12.07 | eleftherios | abrotman, I doesn't |
| 15:12.13 | Orfeous | infernix: i allready have. |
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| 15:12.39 | infernix | Orfeous: then you are using it. |
| 15:12.43 | rmbrain | How can I get Debian GNU/Linux to automount in KDE? |
| 15:12.46 | dooglus | hey #debian - is there any 2.4 kernel in the sid repos? |
| 15:13.04 | Orfeous | infernix: but dhcpcd wasnt removed when i installed dhcp3-client |
| 15:13.08 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.09 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:13.33 | dooglus | oh, sorry. I just found it. it's called 'kernel', not 'linux' for 2.4 |
| 15:13.35 | rmbrain | nevermind --- it just did it |
| 15:13.41 | dooglus | kernel-image-2.4-686, for instance |
| 15:14.02 | abrotman | !azeem++ |
| 15:14.05 | thyko | http://rafb.net/paste/results/ImhTag70.html |
| 15:14.05 | infernix | Orfeous: dhcpcd = dhcp SERVER, not client |
| 15:14.14 | thyko | why are thos bad configuration options |
| 15:14.14 | thyko | ? |
| 15:14.16 | abrotman | eleftherios: check http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.readline.php .. seem to have workarounds |
| 15:14.26 | Orfeous | infernix: ah, ok :) but what is the default client then? |
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| 15:14.31 | Orfeous | somehow it is working :P |
| 15:14.34 | schasi | dhclient |
| 15:14.36 | thyko | my ssh server is emitting that |
| 15:14.42 | Orfeous | dhclient isnt installed |
| 15:14.44 | thyko | any ideas? |
| 15:14.45 | infernix | orfeu: dhcp-client is standard, dhcp3-client isnt. |
| 15:14.58 | Orfeous | dhcp-client isnt installed |
| 15:15.05 | infernix | orfeu: because dhcp3-client is. |
| 15:15.14 | Orfeous | no, it wasnt before.. |
| 15:15.14 | eleftherios | abrotman, there must be somethign else going on...I don't understand why such a standard thing won't work on Debian |
| 15:15.26 | Orfeous | the only dhcp was my local server.. |
| 15:15.31 | debbon | what's this? E: dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 15:15.47 | abrotman | eleftherios: see the changelog item that azeem posted |
| 15:15.50 | infernix | Orfeous: possibly the 'pump' package gave you an IP. but make proper distinction between client and server. |
| 15:16.03 | neo| | roxy_: the message is away but the printer is still no connected... |
| 15:16.29 | eleftherios | abrotman, ooops |
| 15:16.33 | amee2k | i want to have an encrypted partition mounted by a script and the key read from a file (on a removable device). are there any howtos/tutorials for such a setup? |
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| 15:16.52 | Orfeous | infernix: how can i be sure if dhcp3-client is used now? |
| 15:16.53 | debbon | I am trying to update aptitude and I get the above error |
| 15:17.10 | eleftherios | abrotman, azeem thank you |
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| 15:17.52 | infernix | Orfeous: ps axuw | grep dhclient |
| 15:18.14 | Orfeous | root 7422 0.0 0.1 1800 580 pts/2 R+ 17:18 0:00 grep dhclient |
| 15:18.20 | dooglus | I'm unable to install the 2.4 kernel in unstable: kernel-image-2.4-686 depends on kernel-image-2.4.27-3-686, which doesn't exist. what to do? |
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| 15:18.50 | xai | is there a way to clean out /var/lib/dpkg/info ? |
| 15:18.51 | infernix | Orfeous: do you have a dhcp setting in /etc/network/interfaces? if so, do 'ifdown ethX && ifup ethX' for the correct ethX itnerface |
| 15:19.04 | infernix | orfeus: it should start dhclient3 |
| 15:19.13 | azeem | xai: what do you mean by 'clean out'? |
| 15:19.24 | Orfeous | infernix: yes, i have the dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:19.28 | xai | azeem: safely reduce the size to zero or near zero |
| 15:19.38 | Orfeous | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 15:19.42 | azeem | xai: the information in that directory is essential |
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| 15:20.40 | xai | azeem: it can't be rebuilt? |
| 15:21.23 | petemc | xai: its what, 20 or 30 meg? are you that short on space? |
| 15:21.31 | azeem | xai: only if you reinstall all packages |
| 15:21.33 | stew | xai: there isnt' any non-essential information in there, what do you expect to gain by "rebuilding" it? |
| 15:22.01 | azeem | xai: you could may purge all packages in state 'rc', that would remove the maintainer scripts of those packages |
| 15:22.06 | azeem | s/may/maybe/ |
| 15:22.13 | stew | xai: the only thing you could maybe do is to purge packages which have been removed but not purge, understand that this would also remove configuration files for the package |
| 15:22.15 | azeem | I doubt it will make a big difference |
| 15:22.19 | thyko | thanks yahh |
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| 15:22.43 | xai | I'm just trying to size down.. ok.. thanks. |
| 15:23.01 | azeem | xai: really, it's not worth it |
| 15:23.19 | dooglus | how can I install a 2.4 kernel in unstable please? |
| 15:23.31 | azeem | dooglus: build it manually |
| 15:23.48 | dooglus | azeem: is there no binary package I can use? |
| 15:23.51 | azeem | dooglus: no |
| 15:24.01 | stew | dooglus: do you run udev? |
| 15:24.01 | azeem | etch will still support 2.4, but not ship it |
| 15:24.10 | Orfeous | infernix: maybe something with "request" |
| 15:24.15 | Orfeous | in dhclient.conf |
| 15:24.18 | dooglus | stew: I guess so |
| 15:24.27 | stew | dooglus: it won't be functional under 2.4 |
| 15:24.51 | stew | dooglus: unstable's udev requires 2.6.15 at a minimum |
| 15:24.52 | dooglus | stew: ok. maybe 2.4 isn't what I need then. debian keeps freezing on me, about once a day. |
| 15:25.07 | stew | dooglus: have you run memtest86? |
| 15:25.13 | roxy_ | neo|: I could set it up with localhost:631 |
| 15:25.15 | dooglus | I'm guessing it's something in the kernel - it freezes when I do a lot of SMB traffic |
| 15:25.22 | dooglus | I've run memtest86, yes |
| 15:25.29 | azeem | which kernel are you using currently? |
| 15:25.31 | dooglus | and windows will run without locking up, too |
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| 15:25.44 | dooglus | uname -r tells me 2.6.17-1-686 |
| 15:26.00 | azeem | dooglus: maybe try 2.6.16, dunno |
| 15:26.24 | dooglus | the logs are full of messages like Jul 26 17:07:05 chrislap kernel: smb_add_request: request [b1472e80, mid=3011] timed out! just before the crash |
| 15:26.42 | dooglus | and Jul 26 17:05:25 chrislap kernel: smb_get_length: Invalid NBT packet, code=6d, and such like |
| 15:27.01 | azeem | dooglus: that's the stock Debian kernel I assume? |
| 15:27.16 | dooglus | yes |
| 15:27.16 | azeem | did you check the BTS/file a bug? |
| 15:27.17 | stew | dooglus: maybe try cifs instead of smbfs? |
| 15:27.22 | dooglus | cifs is worse |
| 15:27.37 | dooglus | I used to use cifs, but it has been unbearable in recent kernels |
| 15:27.40 | neo| | roxy_: it works now... |
| 15:27.51 | neo| | thx |
| 15:27.56 | dooglus | I found this report: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0404.1/0703.html - from 2004 about 2.6 kernels giving these error messages under SMB load |
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| 15:31.59 | dooglus | stew: hmmm, I just tried cifs again and it's working well on my benchmark so far. thanks for suggesting trying it - maybe I didn't since the last kernel update |
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| 15:33.16 | stew | hmm, i should maybe update the kernel on my cifs machine |
| 15:33.19 | onweald_tim | I have a process called "migration" that I can't find out what it is or what it does. |
| 15:33.38 | onweald_tim | Googling is useless. (try "process migration" and you get everything BUT what you need to know) |
| 15:33.44 | Orfeous | infernix: i have found this.. option dhcp-requested-address ip-address; |
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| 15:33.50 | Orfeous | i think that is the one i want to use |
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| 15:34.08 | simonrvn | abrotman: pong |
| 15:34.12 | onweald_tim | find doesn't find anything that starts with "migration" so I can't find it via file search. |
| 15:34.17 | abrotman | simonrvn: nm .. i misread! |
| 15:34.27 | abrotman | simonrvn: it's my poor american upbringing |
| 15:34.41 | onweald_tim | Can anyone suggest other places to look? Or how can I tell what the process's executable is? |
| 15:35.37 | alex_ndc | hi people ... I have a simple question ... how stable is Etch ? |
| 15:35.38 | alex_ndc | (normally I would test it, but right now I don't have the time) |
| 15:36.08 | Ronin | alex_ndc: depends on the day i bet :) |
| 15:36.23 | alex_ndc | :) |
| 15:36.31 | simonrvn | mildly funny though, found a show at the bottom |
| 15:36.36 | simonrvn | shoe* |
| 15:36.51 | alex_ndc | RoninL I am using Ubuntu from some time, and I thought about giving Debian a try |
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| 15:37.11 | dooglus | stew: I spoke too soon - it was just having a lucky patch. now I see a lot of: "Jul 26 17:35:24 chrislap kernel: CIFS VFS: No response to cmd 46 mid 20344" |
| 15:37.26 | arod | are there some sid cd image out there? |
| 15:37.55 | Ronin | alex_ndc: i run stable so im not the best person to ask but idle around a etch user will answer |
| 15:38.00 | dooglus | Ronin: I switched from breezy to etch, and found etch mostly unusable. sid was both newer and more usable at the time |
| 15:38.02 | Ronin | arod: not that i know of |
| 15:38.27 | Ronin | dooglus: etch unusable? and sid was usable? you sure you have that in the right order? |
| 15:38.29 | arod | so testing netinst -> dist-upgrade is the way, I guess |
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| 15:38.49 | Ronin | arod: yep |
| 15:38.54 | arod | ok |
| 15:38.55 | dooglus | Ronin: yes, indeed. whole bunches of packages just wouldn't install due to dependency issues in etch, whereas I've had few problems with sid |
| 15:38.57 | arod | thanks |
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| 15:39.09 | Ronin | dooglus: dep issues? how were you installing them |
| 15:39.19 | dooglus | Ronin: 'sudo apt-get install' |
| 15:39.25 | Ronin | dooglus: interesting |
| 15:40.22 | alex_ndc | Ronin: if I install Sarge, does it work to install newer packages from Etch or Sid ... like KDE 3.5.2 ? |
| 15:40.41 | Ronin | !tell alex_ndc about backports |
| 15:41.08 | dooglus | Ronin: it may just have been a bad time I guess |
| 15:41.09 | stew | alex_ndc: no, use backports |
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| 15:41.27 | alex_ndc | ok, so there is a backports repository ? |
| 15:41.40 | stew | alex_ndc: an unofficial one, but yes, /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 15:42.23 | linux_manju | clear |
| 15:43.13 | INIT07 | is there a way to rebuild the entire dpkg cache? |
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| 15:43.35 | yassinework | hi everyone |
| 15:44.12 | jharrisonwk | howdy |
| 15:44.59 | yassinework | i have a strang issue with my aptiude i want to install the libmysqlclient12 and when select it i can than see its already installled but when i start an apache modules which requires it apache claims that these functions (which should be provided by libmysqlclient) are not found |
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| 15:45.15 | yassinework | any idea what i could be doing wrong |
| 15:45.23 | simonrvn | you sure that's the one it wants? |
| 15:45.39 | jharrisonwk | what is aptiude? |
| 15:45.58 | azeem | jharrisonwk: aptitude |
| 15:46.08 | jharrisonwk | yes i knew that |
| 15:46.24 | azeem | jharrisonwk: oh, thought you were a newbie |
| 15:46.31 | jharrisonwk | nope |
| 15:46.34 | yassinework | simonrvn, this is how the modules i compiled normally: apxs -q -lmysqlclient -lz -L /usr/local/mysql/lib/ -I/usr/local/mysql/include <path to module>/mod_auth_cookie_mysql2.c |
| 15:46.39 | azeem | yes, I knew that |
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| 15:46.45 | jharrisonwk | < not a newbie |
| 15:46.49 | simonrvn | um, why are you compiling it? |
| 15:47.16 | yassinework | since the deb package i found did not works |
| 15:47.34 | jharrisonwk | yassinework: sarge, etch, or sid? |
| 15:47.34 | simonrvn | then you file a bug |
| 15:47.46 | simonrvn | !tell yassinework about reportbug |
| 15:47.46 | yassinework | jharrisonwk, sarge |
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| 15:48.27 | yassinework | simonrvn, i would do if it was an offical package but its not |
| 15:48.34 | Orfeous | is this gonna work? http://pastebin.se/3278 |
| 15:48.37 | Orfeous | dhclient.conf |
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| 15:48.44 | simonrvn | then you file a bug with whomever built it |
| 15:49.03 | yassinework | okay but now back to my question |
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| 15:51.14 | RoyK | hm. i just installed etch and it came up with gnome/[gx]dm. how can I have it _not_ start [xg]dm? |
| 15:51.22 | azeem | !nodm |
| 15:51.22 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
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| 15:55.48 | peder_ | Does anyone know why I get a error like this: http://pastebin.no/202 |
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| 15:56.17 | azeem | peder_: I suggest you describe your problem in one sentence and then point to the pastebin |
| 15:56.27 | azeem | people might get more interested in looking at the paste that way |
| 15:57.41 | linux_manju | peder_: do u have selinux installed and enabled ? |
| 15:57.56 | abrotman | !tell linux_manju about u |
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| 15:58.06 | peder_ | linux_manju- No, I just installed Debian |
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| 16:03.04 | jhernandez | Hi, I'm using debian's emacs-snapshot and python auto-indent is not working, is this a known problem? |
| 16:03.32 | azeem | jharrisonwk: check the BTS |
| 16:03.42 | azeem | and possibly the upstream bug tracker |
| 16:03.56 | azeem | eh |
| 16:03.59 | azeem | jhernandez: check the BTS |
| 16:04.05 | jhernandez | I already do that and I can't find it |
| 16:04.16 | azeem | jhernandez: so file a bug |
| 16:04.34 | jhernandez | ok, I'll do that |
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| 16:06.13 | fernandomm | Hello, i have the following situation. I have 50 terminals (ltps) that will be used by 500 users, each one with their own account. I have configured kde in one of those accounts, how can i export it to the other accounts? |
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| 16:07.23 | cb | when they all have an normal homedir like /home/userdir just copy the dotfiles? |
| 16:08.13 | lunitik_ | fernandomm: what cb said would work... should look into kiosktool though... |
| 16:08.50 | darren | I am looking to upgrade my 40GB IDE drive to a SATA drive. What's the least painful way to achieve this or am I faced with reinstalling? |
| 16:08.51 | lunitik_ | fernandomm: its a tool that pretty much does exactly what you want (configure users KDE's...) |
| 16:09.18 | lunitik_ | fernandomm: not as pretty or modern looking as sabayon though... but it works |
| 16:09.40 | lunitik_ | and doesn't depend GTK ^_^ |
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| 16:10.26 | fernandomm | lunitik_: i have kiosk installed here, but does it copy the users preference too ? |
| 16:10.26 | lunitik_ | fernandomm: should look around http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin/ too |
| 16:11.04 | lunitik_ | fernandomm: no idea, I've only used it with from-scratch users... |
| 16:11.32 | lunitik_ | fernandomm: shouldn't be hard to base kiosk rules on a given users .kde though... |
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| 16:12.17 | lunitik_ | fernandomm: the tool I speak of by the way, is a frontend for kiosk ... an assistant application for kiosk |
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| 16:13.30 | Eclipser | who broke xfce4 dependancies :) |
| 16:13.33 | debbon | can I make questions about pinning here? |
| 16:13.45 | debbon | is it possible to upgrade from stable to testing? |
| 16:13.46 | fernandomm | lunitik_: thanks for the site, there are some good tools there. |
| 16:13.47 | lunitik_ | I think there is talk of a newer tool to the same end... but thats all there is for a graphical way to configure kiosks at the moment |
| 16:13.49 | Orfeous | infernixx: got new problems with dhclient |
| 16:13.49 | cb | darren: just set your partitions like on the old hdd, copy the files and set the mountpoints in /etc/fstab to sda1 or something and be sure the support for your sata-controller is build in your kernel. |
| 16:13.57 | lunitik_ | fernandomm: you're welcome |
| 16:14.19 | Orfeous | infernixx: http://pastebin.se/3281 |
| 16:14.22 | lunitik_ | !tell debbon about pinning |
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| 16:14.27 | lunitik_ | debbon: yes |
| 16:14.39 | fernandomm | the only problem that seens remaining is, when i create a new user, which groups should i add this user in order to get cdrom/floppy/audio (etc..) working ? |
| 16:14.57 | lunitik_ | debbon: you don't want to pin things from etch/sid in stable though... different C lib etc... just bad |
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| 16:15.20 | lunitik_ | !simple sid backport |
| 16:15.20 | dpkg | i heard simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 16:15.43 | lunitik_ | thats easiest way for backports from sid/etch ... to not end up with a broken system |
| 16:15.49 | darren | cb: will that copy everything needed to boot to the sata drive? |
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| 16:16.08 | pythos | wondering about debian masq. I have difficulty trying to run a debian box behind another debian doing a masq. Ideas? |
| 16:16.15 | debbon | lunitik_: damnĄĄ I am scrwed now |
| 16:16.36 | lunitik_ | debbon: haha... why you say that? |
| 16:16.37 | stew | pythos: you have to be more specific |
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| 16:16.38 | PDani_ | hi |
| 16:16.56 | Orfeous | maybe someone else can help me with my problem with the dhcp3-client config |
| 16:17.05 | debbon | asfd |
| 16:17.11 | Eclipser | xfdesktop4: Depends: libxfce4util2 (>= 4.3.90.1) but it is not installable |
| 16:17.14 | Eclipser | libxfce4util2 ; Status: install ok installed ; Version: 4.3.90.1-1 |
| 16:17.16 | Eclipser | >.<; |
| 16:17.17 | lunitik_ | debbon: if you pinned things from etch... best bet is to just dist-upgrade to etch now... |
| 16:17.28 | lunitik_ | debbon: december it'll be current stable anyways... |
| 16:17.33 | PDani_ | does anyone know a really very good (it can be commercial, or expensive or anything) ext3 recovery tool? |
| 16:17.49 | debbon | lunitik_: just dist-upgrade? |
| 16:17.53 | debbon | that simple? |
| 16:17.56 | pythos | stew: ok: So I set up a debian box with ipmasq, and a private subnet. Then I try to get another machine to do a net-install using an ip from the private subnet, but it won't get past the masq box. |
| 16:18.03 | lunitik_ | !sarge->etch |
| 16:18.22 | lunitik_ | !stable->testing ? |
| 16:18.26 | lunitik_ | stupid bot |
| 16:18.27 | stew | pythos: on the masq box, what does "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" return? |
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| 16:19.00 | stew | dpkg: sarge->etch |
| 16:19.00 | dpkg | Edit your sources.list ('editor /etc/apt/sources.list'), change all non-local mentions of 'sarge' or 'stable' to 'etch'. Save the file, then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. Then consider subscribing do debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. ask me about <testing security> |
| 16:19.04 | lunitik_ | You have to change /etc/apt/sources.list cases of "stable" or "sarge" to "testing" or "etch" |
| 16:19.21 | lunitik_ | stew: ahh... the bot just doesn't like me? :( |
| 16:19.30 | stew | !sarge->etch |
| 16:19.43 | debbon | ok thanks |
| 16:19.51 | lunitik_ | hmm... idgi |
| 16:19.54 | pythos | stew, it cat's "1" However, I have a more telling situation: I have a few various kinds of routers on the shelf. Some of them do work using the private subnet, some dont. Just the part where the net-install wont work is most irritable, but the part where some routers work and other don't is telltale. |
| 16:19.56 | stew | dondelelcaro: did that patch i sent to fix that bug ^^ get lost when you synced to upgream? |
| 16:20.05 | lunitik_ | The bot forgot its trigger? |
| 16:20.29 | stew | lunitik_: no there was a bug having to do with short addressing (!) and factoids with a '>' |
| 16:20.58 | lunitik_ | stew: ahh |
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| 16:21.47 | celenk | I believe I managed to screw up my nvidia driver install - is there a simple way to do it? |
| 16:21.50 | Eclipser | meh |
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| 16:22.24 | Eclipser | it appears libxfce4util4 wants to remove libxfce4util2 but other packages get broken because of that :< |
| 16:22.37 | Eclipser | guess I'll just wait for a fix :> |
| 16:22.40 | lunitik_ | !tell celenk about nvidia |
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| 16:22.54 | lunitik_ | celenk: ignore that... wrong one |
| 16:23.28 | debbon | bye the way is testing/etch being done with gcc 4.* by any chanceż |
| 16:23.34 | lunitik_ | !tell celenk about nvidia-graphics-drivers |
| 16:23.51 | lunitik_ | celenk: read the link that factoid tells you about... the "non-free" section probbaly |
| 16:23.54 | lunitik_ | probably* |
| 16:24.23 | lunitik_ | debbon: yes... gcc4.1 is in etch afaik |
| 16:24.26 | debbon | lunitik_: 'cause you mentioned a different libs |
| 16:24.31 | debbon | lunitik_: kewl then |
| 16:24.35 | lunitik_ | debbon: certainly gcc4.0 is |
| 16:25.01 | lunitik_ | debbon: libc6 versions are different in testing/unstable and stable... |
| 16:25.23 | lunitik_ | (current sid and testing libc6 is the same) |
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| 16:25.40 | celenk | lunitik_, see but according to these directions.. I did it right, I installed nvidia-glx-legacy, and nvidia-kernel-legacy-2.6-15-1-686 I believe |
| 16:26.05 | lunitik_ | celenk: that link mentions nvidia-common ... |
| 16:26.23 | celenk | I think nvidia-common is installed with nvidia-glx-legacy, hmm |
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| 16:27.01 | lunitik_ | celenk: no |
| 16:27.21 | rutski89 | The resolution options on my default debian install (Gnome) is rather small |
| 16:27.27 | rutski89 | I mean, the max is 800x600 |
| 16:27.38 | rutski89 | how can I bump that up? I know my monitor can do more |
| 16:28.06 | lunitik_ | rutski89: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... |
| 16:28.22 | lunitik_ | (GUI apps only allow for whats defined in that file) |
| 16:28.25 | bonefry | shouldn't work with ... dpkg --configure xserver-xorg ? |
| 16:28.26 | rutski89 | no such file :( |
| 16:28.43 | rutski89 | XF86Config-4? |
| 16:28.47 | lunitik_ | bonefry: dpkg-reconfigure ... sure ... takes longer though |
| 16:28.55 | lunitik_ | rutski89: yes... |
| 16:29.43 | lunitik_ | bonefry: I wish there was a way to say something like "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --question=resolution" or something |
| 16:30.01 | lunitik_ | eh... he left |
| 16:30.26 | lunitik_ | Would be nice to define which question you want asked again either way though... would make things a lot faster |
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| 16:30.57 | lunitik_ | Users tend to ask you every question again, which is annoying... when all you want them to do is see one question again :/ |
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| 16:31.24 | enouf | lunitik_ : you can use the -plow, or -phigh option when running dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 16:31.41 | debbon | should I reboot after dist upgrade? |
| 16:31.56 | lunitik_ | enouf: yes... that can limit questions ... but still not really good for helping some people |
| 16:32.21 | enouf | lunitik_ : I concur I guess ;-) |
| 16:32.21 | Orfeous | lunitik_: maybe you can help me with my dhclient.config |
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| 16:32.58 | lunitik_ | Orfeous: I let me ISP handle my DHCP settings.... so probably not... I can take a look though? |
| 16:33.40 | lunitik_ | uses* |
| 16:34.06 | Orfeous | lunitik_: i want to use the option "option dhcp-requested-address ip-address;" but it doesnt work for me |
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| 16:34.34 | debbon | is it a good idea to reboot after dist-upgrade? |
| 16:34.36 | vessial | oh,cool |
| 16:34.40 | Orfeous | lunitik_: when i restart the client it tells me this http://pastebin.se/3281 |
| 16:34.49 | vessial | the first time come here |
| 16:34.49 | rutski89 | lunitik_: I edited every Modes section under the Section "Screen" and prepended my desired resolution the list, but there was no change after a reboot, i'm still at 800x600 |
| 16:34.50 | Orfeous | seems that it dont like the numbers.. |
| 16:34.53 | Orfeous | "213 |
| 16:34.53 | petemc | debbon: its not needed |
| 16:35.03 | debbon | petemc: thanks |
| 16:35.20 | debbon | and in order to run X is something like xorconfigure right? |
| 16:35.38 | vessial | hey,can you guys tell me where the fast kernel image update websit? |
| 16:35.43 | vessial | thanks |
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| 16:35.50 | petemc | !drxx debbon |
| 16:35.50 | dpkg | debbon: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 16:35.50 | Orfeous | ftp.kernels.org? |
| 16:35.51 | lunitik_ | rutski89: remove things you don't want to use to force it to use a desired resolution (only after checking that 'vesa' isn't being used.... |
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| 16:36.06 | rutski89 | lunitik_: oh... but I think vesa is being used |
| 16:36.18 | debbon | ok |
| 16:36.22 | petemc | vessial: you can get debian kernels from your closest/fastest debian mirror via apt-get |
| 16:36.24 | vessial | oh,no,i mean sources.list |
| 16:36.31 | lunitik_ | rutski89: umm... then change that.... |
| 16:36.43 | rutski89 | to? |
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| 16:36.54 | lunitik_ | rutski89: thats also like the culprit for your shitty resolution |
| 16:37.02 | rutski89 | yea :-/ |
| 16:37.06 | lunitik_ | rutski89: no idea... what graphics card? |
| 16:37.08 | rutski89 | but what do i set Driver to if not "vesa"? |
| 16:37.16 | rutski89 | no clue :( |
| 16:37.31 | vessial | petemc: yeah,i know,but i cann't find 2.6.16.18 kernel image |
| 16:37.45 | rutski89 | ah, Geforce2 GTS/Pro |
| 16:37.51 | rutski89 | three cheers for lspci |
| 16:37.56 | foobared | rutski89: lspci | grep VGA ? |
| 16:38.00 | lunitik_ | rutski89: nv for now |
| 16:38.21 | lunitik_ | rutski89: you get to have fun with the nvidia drivers eventually though |
| 16:38.25 | rutski89 | awesome, running at 1280x1024 :D |
| 16:38.41 | lunitik_ | rutski89: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#head-bae079b46519cdb997c0ecb8ed33528a17864946 |
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| 16:38.51 | rutski89 | lunitik_: heh, yea; but what's the point if I'm not going to be using / programming any 3D stuff |
| 16:39.01 | lunitik_ | rutski89: true... |
| 16:39.14 | vessial | cool,i got it |
| 16:39.16 | lunitik_ | rutski89: seems a waste kinda to not get the most out of the card |
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| 16:39.51 | rutski89 | not if you won't ever push it beyond a day-to-day use level |
| 16:40.24 | rutski89 | lunitik_: stop it with the "get the most of your hardware" stuff, are your starting to sound like a Genootbie :-p |
| 16:40.29 | Orfeous | lunitik_: did you check the link? |
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| 16:42.00 | lunitik_ | Orfeous: I think you should be defining that on the server... is the one you want being taken by someone else? |
| 16:42.44 | lunitik_ | Orfeous: I'm not sure but maybe you need to define the full address too, not just the last section of the IP? |
| 16:43.35 | Orfeous | lunitik_: no, its not my server so i cant define in it. |
| 16:44.02 | lunitik_ | can you ping 213.114.140.213 ? |
| 16:44.30 | lunitik_ | like I said, maybe they are using it already ... but the line is wrong anyways ... |
| 16:44.39 | lunitik_ | So try the full IP imo |
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| 16:44.59 | Orfeous | the full ip? |
| 16:45.10 | Orfeous | 213.114.140.119 is the full ip |
| 16:45.10 | lunitik_ | Looks like you just define "213" as your requested IP |
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| 16:45.31 | Syria | we have opened a new server for the coders please take a look : irc.wecoders.net thanks :) |
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| 16:46.18 | Orfeous | lunitik_: its strange |
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| 16:47.15 | lunitik_ | Orfeous: I can't see the dhclient.config ... so its hard to guess at the issue.... |
| 16:48.21 | rutski89 | how do i remap caps lock to be control? |
| 16:49.02 | Orfeous | lunitik_: http://pastebin.se/3282 |
| 16:49.04 | Orfeous | dhclient.conf |
| 16:49.31 | stew | rutski89: systemwide or just for your user? |
| 16:49.41 | rutski89 | well I'm the only user, so either or |
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| 16:50.17 | debbon | perl setting locale failed |
| 16:50.26 | devsforev | Good afternoon everyone. Could somebody please enlighten me as to how to list all the installed packages on my system? |
| 16:50.31 | rutski89 | debbon: huh? |
| 16:50.38 | petemc | devsforev: dpkg -l |
| 16:50.44 | devsforev | petemc: thanks a bunch ;) |
| 16:50.59 | stew | rutski89: you can put this in the Keyboard section of your x config: Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" (or rerun dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and enter ctrl:swapcaps when you are prompted for keyboard options) |
| 16:51.17 | rutski89 | awesome, ty |
| 16:51.32 | stew | rutski89: ctrl:nocaps is alsa available |
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| 16:51.59 | rutski89 | what's the diff? |
| 16:52.19 | stew | rutski89: with the second you wont have a caps_lock at all, just two left controls |
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| 16:52.40 | rutski89 | ah, gotcha |
| 16:54.41 | lunitik_ | Orfeous: I don't see anything about "option dhcp-requested-address" ... only fixed-address ... tried that? |
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| 16:55.39 | badgers | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of sussudio) |
| 16:55.40 | abrotman | Ronin: you should put a third(broken) one up .. and when they ask why you get three .. say "Dunno .. i never use the third one, but they won't let anyone else take it" |
| 16:55.42 | rutski89 | stew: Option "XkbOption" "ctrl:nocaps" didn't do it |
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| 16:56.23 | stew | rutski89: Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" ; in the InputDevice section for Driver "kbd" |
| 16:56.39 | rutski89 | ah, oops, Options, not Option; i forgot the "s" |
| 16:57.12 | Cuddles_in_KY | hi folks. new to debian on my desktop, and i've got a question. |
| 16:57.14 | Orfeous | lunitik_: here you have... http://www.daemon-systems.org/man/dhcp-options.5.html |
| 16:57.32 | Ronin | abrotman: nice but i took the 3rd one and put it on a secratarys desk, it will tick off her boss nicely when he gets back from vacation on monday |
| 16:58.17 | sussudio | !test |
| 16:58.21 | Cuddles_in_KY | i'm using kde, but when i right-click on the panel, i get no menu. click on a panel handle, choose the submenu marked panel menu, and i still get nothing. what's wrong with it? |
| 16:58.34 | stew | sussudio: no, sussudio, your bot isn't online :P |
| 16:58.50 | sussudio | %eat stew |
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| 16:59.46 | Cuddles_in_KY | anyone? |
| 17:00.42 | lunitik_ | Orfeous: Says its "not user configurable" .... hmm |
| 17:01.44 | Orfeous | lunitik_: why then have that option? :) |
| 17:01.44 | madclicker | does anyone checks packages before they are pushed out the repositories for etch. I just did an update for squid, now it keeps crashing with "parseConfigFile" |
| 17:04.04 | lunitik_ | Orfeous: no idea... tried fixed-address though? |
| 17:04.13 | Cuddles_in_KY | can someone please help me? |
| 17:04.26 | Orfeous | lunitik_: no i havent |
| 17:04.45 | lunitik_ | Cuddles_in_KY: You get no menu at all? |
| 17:04.56 | Orfeous | lunitik_: i dont know if that is doing what i want. |
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| 17:05.03 | lunitik_ | Cuddles_in_KY: can just do KControl > Desktop > Panels |
| 17:05.03 | sussudio | %kde |
| 17:05.03 | badgers | i heard kde is a desktop environment based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details, or not a window manager, or ask your questions about it in #debian-kde |
| 17:05.05 | Cuddles_in_KY | lunitik_: nope. |
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| 17:05.55 | Cuddles_in_KY | lunitik_: i've tried that. no joy. |
| 17:06.15 | lunitik_ | Cuddles_in_KY: it doesn't exist for you? |
| 17:06.51 | Cuddles_in_KY | lunitik_: i've been through kcontrol. when i right click on the panel, i get nothing. |
| 17:07.57 | abrotman | !ronin++ |
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| 17:09.09 | Hotwire | hey, grub wouldn't have any problems booting deb off a slave drive would it? |
| 17:09.21 | jetscreamer | no |
| 17:09.29 | jetscreamer | not when configured correctly |
| 17:09.48 | Hotwire | great |
| 17:10.06 | Hotwire | saves me moving my /home drive off this drive before i install deb |
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| 17:10.41 | jade | how can i determine what motherboard i have in my system? |
| 17:10.45 | jade | lspci didn't show |
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| 17:11.16 | stew | jade: your best bet is dmidecode |
| 17:11.42 | foobared | jade: lshw ? |
| 17:11.55 | jade | thanks |
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| 17:13.24 | sussudio | %biosid |
| 17:13.24 | badgers | http://bakunin.xs4all.nl/software/biosid-0.23.tar.gz |
| 17:13.30 | sussudio | jade ^ |
| 17:13.50 | tziku | hello, how can i spy a user from root in ssh mode ? (watch -W pttyp2 dosn't work :((( ) |
| 17:14.05 | abrotman | ttysnoop |
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| 17:14.39 | abrotman | and you're an evil admin |
| 17:14.50 | tziku | hehehheeh :)) thank |
| 17:14.52 | tziku | thanks |
| 17:15.03 | debbon | hi I have an awful problem, I can't log in as root and I was able to do that before |
| 17:15.08 | dragan | is it possible to install qt4 on debian sarge??? |
| 17:15.10 | Ronin | debbon: thats a good thing |
| 17:15.11 | debbon | I can login as user but not as root |
| 17:15.32 | debbon | Ronin: I don't wanna start all over |
| 17:15.38 | Ronin | debbon: good, when logged on as user open a term and type su, then the rooot password |
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| 17:15.49 | debbon | Ronin: I did that |
| 17:15.50 | Ronin | debbon: why would you start over? |
| 17:15.52 | Ronin | debbon: and? |
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| 17:16.24 | Hotwire | how hard is it to set up lvm in deb? |
| 17:16.27 | debbon | Ronin: doesn't let me, I suspect it has to do with the weird apple keyboard and mixed languages |
| 17:16.42 | abrotman | debbon: that's the way it shuld be |
| 17:16.44 | abrotman | should |
| 17:16.47 | Ronin | mixed languages? |
| 17:16.58 | Ronin | abrotman: i think he meant in a term and not in x right debbon? |
| 17:17.16 | Ronin | debbon: mixed languages? and what message do you get when you try |
| 17:17.19 | debbon | Ronin: because I set language as English then I set the keyboard as Spanish then Keyboard as MAC USB |
| 17:17.30 | Ronin | good gawd |
| 17:17.39 | debbon | just odd I can login as user but not as root |
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| 17:17.54 | Ronin | debbon: login as root where????:??? |
| 17:18.00 | Ronin | do you mean in X? |
| 17:18.23 | debbon | Ronin: I don't even have X |
| 17:18.30 | Ethan_Loves_Men | hey ronin, do you know any servers i can go that have cracks and keys to games? |
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| 17:18.36 | debbon | Ronin: after booting |
| 17:18.43 | Ronin | its like pulling teeth some days i swear :) |
| 17:18.47 | ryan` | Ethan_Loves_Men, Off topic..... |
| 17:18.53 | tziku | abrotman: ttysnoop pttyp1 |
| 17:18.53 | tziku | can't connect to server |
| 17:18.54 | Ronin | Ethan_Loves_Men: try #2,000 they may |
| 17:19.05 | Ethan_Loves_Men | do you know what i have to type in |
| 17:19.14 | Ronin | Ethan_Loves_Men: just join that channel |
| 17:19.14 | ryan` | /j #2,000 |
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| 17:19.49 | ryan` | hah! |
| 17:19.53 | Ronin | i love that one |
| 17:19.59 | ryan` | me too. |
| 17:20.04 | abrotman | tziku: i told you the tool .. you get to learn how to use it .. you're still an evil admin! |
| 17:20.05 | tziku | abrotman i have this: George pts/1 ip.ip.ip.ip 19:27 1:53 0.14s 0.14s -bash |
| 17:20.26 | dragan | is it possible to install qt4 on debian sarge??? |
| 17:20.45 | ryan` | debbon, you can get back in by booting into single user mode |
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| 17:20.49 | abrotman | why would you .. that'd be kde stuff ... eww |
| 17:21.01 | ryan` | debbon, do you have grub or lilo as your bootloader? |
| 17:21.36 | abrotman | !tell dragan about backports |
| 17:21.37 | abrotman | dragan: or ask #debian-kde |
| 17:22.09 | Eclipser | how can I make a .deb package out of something that only has autohell way of building/installing? |
| 17:22.41 | debbon | I can't even shutdown since I am not root |
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| 17:22.59 | ryan` | debbon, CAD |
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| 17:23.01 | Ronin | debbon: what error does it give you and why not just pick one language? |
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| 17:23.07 | rutski89 | why does setting a custom path in ~/.bash_profile not have an effect? (yes, I do use the exprot statement at the end) |
| 17:23.23 | ryan` | debbon, ctrl-alt-del |
| 17:23.46 | ryan` | should reboot, if done from a tty (ctrl-alt-f1 will get you to one) |
| 17:23.55 | foobared | rutski89: forgot to relogin? |
| 17:24.10 | ryan` | debbon, you can also press the reset button |
| 17:24.22 | debbon | I don't have delete because this is a mac |
| 17:24.27 | ryan` | haha |
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| 17:24.51 | ryan` | debbon, there must be some equivilant on a mac |
| 17:24.59 | ryan` | i do not know what it is, though. |
| 17:25.04 | AciD | since I reinstalled my debian, some characters in my /home directory aren't well displayed (chars like 'ĂŠ'), how can you know which encoding the fs use ? I need to know to be able to use convmv |
| 17:25.07 | jharrisonwk | anyone know how to bring an interface up without an ip or anything in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 17:25.14 | ryan` | debbon, just hard boot it. |
| 17:25.20 | debbon | ok |
| 17:25.28 | rutski89 | foobared: opening a new Gnome Terminal shouldn't do it? |
| 17:25.34 | rutski89 | i'll try to fully relog i guess |
| 17:25.42 | jduggan | hey i have a file, whats the easiest way to find out which package it got installed from, if there is one? |
| 17:25.44 | ryan` | debbon, jurnaled filesystem will keep your disk from being trashed. |
| 17:25.45 | debbon | ryan`: the mac doesn't have hard boot though |
| 17:25.51 | ryan` | yes it does |
| 17:25.52 | AciD | jdhutchin1 > dpkg -S |
| 17:25.54 | jharrisonwk | jduggan: dpkg -S filename |
| 17:25.58 | jduggan | yea found it already |
| 17:26.00 | AciD | jduggan even |
| 17:26.00 | jduggan | sorry |
| 17:26.00 | ryan` | see the power cord? |
| 17:26.04 | Ronin | heh |
| 17:26.05 | jduggan | i ask before i man :P |
| 17:26.06 | abrotman | debbon: pull the power cord |
| 17:26.19 | dragan | abrotman: thanks |
| 17:26.33 | Ronin | then when it comes back up pick one language and stop confusing that poor distro |
| 17:26.37 | abrotman | dragan: ? |
| 17:26.42 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: you know how to set an interface without an ip in /etc/network/interfaces so it just comes up? |
| 17:26.53 | ryan` | jharrisonwk: set the ip to 0.0.0.0 |
| 17:27.00 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: are you serious? |
| 17:27.09 | ryan` | jharrisonwk, why do you want to do that, though? |
| 17:27.13 | dragan | abrotman: "#debian-kde" |
| 17:27.29 | AciD | and as a side question, does the locales you choose while configuring the locales pkg affect the filenames ? |
| 17:27.34 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: yes im serious |
| 17:27.39 | foobared | rutski89: it works only for login shells (or --login option), I guess |
| 17:27.44 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: its an interface for snort |
| 17:27.53 | ryan` | ah |
| 17:28.06 | ryan` | yup, configure it with address 0.0.0.0 |
| 17:28.21 | rutski89 | foobared: so i can't get it to work with gnome term in any way shape or form? |
| 17:28.26 | jharrisonwk | ryan`: I tried that but in interfaces file I need a netmask and using address 0.0.0.0 and netmask 255.255.255.255 does not work because the netmask cant be set |
| 17:28.39 | ryan` | um |
| 17:28.52 | ryan` | i think you set the mask to 0.0.0.0 |
| 17:28.55 | jharrisonwk | ryan`: im pretty sure I did that a while ago and it worked fine but it doesnt work anymore it seems |
| 17:28.59 | abrotman | dragan: ah .. ok :) |
| 17:29.00 | jharrisonwk | ok let me try that too |
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| 17:29.25 | abrotman | lovely |
| 17:29.37 | stew | cakeybutt? |
| 17:29.40 | jharrisonwk | SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address |
| 17:29.43 | abrotman | stew: yeah |
| 17:29.46 | ryan` | jharrisonwk: bleh. |
| 17:29.47 | foobared | rutski89: hm, put it into .bashrc if you do not want to start a new xsession |
| 17:29.50 | jharrisonwk | :) |
| 17:29.53 | rutski89 | foobared: nm, Gnome Term has an option for that |
| 17:29.56 | rutski89 | ahh, ok; or that |
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| 17:30.13 | ryan` | jharrisonwk, do you have iproute installed? |
| 17:30.19 | ryan` | (try running ip) |
| 17:30.39 | jharrisonwk | ryan`: I can bring the interface up with ifconfig eth1 up |
| 17:30.40 | stew | jharrisonwk: instead of "static" or "dhcp" use "manual" |
| 17:30.51 | jharrisonwk | ryan`: but I would like to do it with interfaces |
| 17:30.54 | jharrisonwk | stew: ok trying |
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| 17:31.19 | stew | jharrisonwk: (its a semi-educated guess) |
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| 17:31.25 | debbon | how do I configure a package that's new? |
| 17:31.29 | ryan` | jharrisonwk: well i was gonna say set a garbage IP then add a line that says 'up ip addr flush dev ethX' |
| 17:31.31 | jharrisonwk | stew: perfect |
| 17:31.40 | foobared | stew: use manual souds good :) |
| 17:31.47 | debbon | I clearly reacall installing xorg and when I tab xor nothing shows up |
| 17:31.55 | debbon | is it preconfigure? |
| 17:31.56 | ryan` | didn't know about manual |
| 17:32.01 | stew | i knew that manual was valid and you didn't need an ip, but i don't know what it actually does :) |
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| 17:32.51 | Ronin | debbon: dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 17:33.44 | kristalino | does /etc/network/interface support ipv6 ? |
| 17:34.14 | carlito | i have removed something important from my debian sarge box, is there any way to get them back? |
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| 17:34.34 | azeem | carlito: you mean you deleted your data? |
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| 17:35.11 | carlito | yes by accidentally |
| 17:35.22 | azeem | carlito: what file system are you using? |
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| 17:35.26 | dylan_ | i am using Debian 3.1 and am having a problem with graveman. I own a 52x cd recorder, but graveman reports a max. speed of 12x ... what can i do? |
| 17:35.27 | foobared | carlito: ext3? |
| 17:35.35 | carlito | yes |
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| 17:36.21 | carlito | yes it is ext3 |
| 17:37.18 | azeem | carlito: ext3 is really hard to recover |
| 17:37.37 | carlito | :/ |
| 17:37.46 | ryan` | carlito, grepping the partiton device works on text docs |
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| 17:37.55 | petemc | someone on planet debian reported some success with recovering files from ext3 |
| 17:37.56 | ryan` | mount the damned filesystem read only ASAP |
| 17:37.56 | dylan_ | can somebody please help me? |
| 17:38.14 | ryan` | carlito: was the a text file? |
| 17:38.38 | carlito | was a directory with many files |
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| 17:38.54 | ryan` | carlito: Ick. |
| 17:38.58 | foobared | ryan`: do you know about the zero-filling in ext3? |
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| 17:42.01 | abrotman | petemc: it was pabs3 that suggested the fix .. don't remember who had the problem :) |
| 17:42.52 | carlito | ryan`: it is not possible to recovery ext3? |
| 17:43.05 | abrotman | http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2006/07/20/ |
| 17:43.13 | stew | s/possible/easy/ |
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| 17:43.33 | ryan` | carlito: It's very hard except for text files you know partial content of. |
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| 17:44.17 | dylan_ | i am using Debian 3.1 and am having a problem with graveman. I own a 52x cd recorder, but graveman reports a max. speed of 12x ... what can i do? |
| 17:44.37 | ryan` | that magicrescue program may help |
| 17:44.56 | ryan` | you're screwed if the files are fragmented, though |
| 17:45.29 | lunitik_ | dylan_: it uses cdrecord ... poke around /etc/cdrecord/ |
| 17:45.35 | ryan` | dylan_: are you using crap media? |
| 17:45.40 | dylan_ | ryan`, i am using Memorex |
| 17:46.04 | lunitik_ | ryan`: shouldn't matter... cdrecord lets you explode discs if you want to |
| 17:46.08 | ryan` | dylan_, try cdrecord -prcap dev=(read the man page for this part) |
| 17:46.26 | ryan` | lunitik_, only with the force speed option. |
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| 17:46.33 | dylan_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.36 | ryan` | and only on drives that support it. |
| 17:46.42 | dylan_ | so it should write at 52 |
| 17:46.47 | ryan` | dylan_, bug in graveman, then. |
| 17:46.51 | dylan_ | ah really |
| 17:47.07 | dylan_ | i'll just use k3b then |
| 17:47.28 | dylan_ | its better anyway |
| 17:47.37 | lunitik_ | dylan_: gnome user? bonfire is your best option |
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| 17:47.48 | lunitik_ | dylan_: on Gnome, K3B would take forever to load |
| 17:48.05 | dylan_ | lunitik_, you're right. it does. but bonfire is not yet "debian stable" |
| 17:48.05 | lunitik_ | dylan_: I use KDE, and love K3B, but wouldn't use it w/ Gnome |
| 17:48.15 | dylan_ | is gnomebaker any good? |
| 17:48.23 | lunitik_ | !tell dylan_about simple sid backport |
| 17:48.34 | lunitik_ | !tell dylan_ about simple sid backport |
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| 17:48.44 | lunitik_ | !talk |
| 17:48.47 | lunitik_ | ffs |
| 17:48.55 | simonrvn | @tell dylan_ about simple sid backport |
| 17:48.58 | kennM | Greetings. I need install help here. Running Sarge, and I've already installed freetds, I'm trying to install php4-odbc ... get message The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 17:48.58 | kennM | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.59 | kennM | The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| 17:48.59 | kennM | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.07 | lunitik_ | simonrvn: thank you :D |
| 17:49.10 | simonrvn | :) |
| 17:49.13 | dylan_ | but the package is not stable |
| 17:49.17 | dylan_ | id rather not take the risk |
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| 17:49.40 | lunitik_ | dylan_: its the stable upstream package... |
| 17:49.40 | Ronin | dylan_: backports are packaged for stable |
| 17:49.45 | abrotman | dylan_: gnomebaker is very good |
| 17:50.25 | lunitik_ | Bonfire or K3B only for meeee :D |
| 17:50.26 | Ronin | have to admit though its a nice change seeing that attitude as opposed to the i need the bleeding edge syndrome :) |
| 17:50.29 | dylan_ | lunitik_, has chosen a good IRC name. |
| 17:50.37 | dylan_ | lol |
| 17:52.02 | abrotman | yeah .. he does things crazy people do .. like use kde! |
| 17:52.54 | seeds | abrotman you don't use kde? |
| 17:53.03 | Ronin | seeds: many dont |
| 17:53.09 | seeds | k |
| 17:53.29 | seeds | cos its too heavy or bloated |
| 17:53.41 | Ronin | that or a personal choice |
| 17:53.43 | abrotman | or both |
| 17:54.11 | abrotman | or because it's written in C++ .. or because the library isn't truly free ... |
| 17:54.14 | abrotman | lots of reasons |
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| 17:54.38 | Ronin | some good some bad and some just strange |
| 17:54.38 | seeds | k |
| 17:54.44 | abrotman | s/the library/Qt/ |
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| 17:57.43 | dylan_ | what is the BurnFree option in GnomeBaker? And why does GnomeBaker have a speed option? It says '4', but the speed should be '52' should I change this? |
| 17:59.05 | Eclipser | very "nice" script which tells what a package depends on from configure script... it gives lots of extra dependancies I'm quite sure have nothing to do with the package I'm trying to make :p |
| 17:59.13 | debbon | how do I start fluxbox? |
| 17:59.28 | dylan_ | debbon, you have to select it from the Session menu |
| 17:59.36 | dylan_ | in gdm |
| 18:00.02 | debbon | I dont have a gdm |
| 18:00.05 | debbon | I am in cli |
| 18:00.23 | Ronin | umm startx? start fluxbox? man fluxbox |
| 18:00.28 | debbon | aha |
| 18:00.46 | abrotman | dylan_: it depends what you're burning |
| 18:00.52 | Ronin | i use gdm even though technically i dont need it |
| 18:01.19 | dylan_ | abrotman, im burning an audio cd |
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| 18:02.16 | dylan_ | abrotman, why does it matter on what im burning? |
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| 18:04.26 | Markov | howdy. does anyone know of a linux utility for converting Word documents to plain text? |
| 18:04.51 | Gathond | Markov: antiword |
| 18:05.57 | dylan_ | abrotman, please help. |
| 18:06.03 | abrotman | dylan_: huh ? |
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| 18:06.13 | abrotman | dylan_: oh .. if you're burning an ISO .. don't go faster than 16x |
| 18:06.18 | cr3 | where can I specify arguments when starting X, like -ignoreABI |
| 18:06.49 | Markov | thanks Gathond ! i'm going to try it out |
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| 18:07.39 | dylan_ | abrotman, but why does it say 4? |
| 18:07.53 | dylan_ | dylan_, i guess i'll just say 52 then |
| 18:07.57 | abrotman | dylan_: maybe the dfault? |
| 18:07.59 | dylan_ | and what is BurnFree ? |
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| 18:08.47 | Mitja | How do I run an app from console in full screen (Advanced->Fullscreen command in KDE)? |
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| 18:11.21 | wizzomafizzo | What's the command to set what sensible-browser, sensible-editor etc. runs? |
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| 18:12.02 | stew | wizzomafizzo: for systemwide: update-alternatives --config editor ; for just your user, set the EDITOR env variable |
| 18:12.17 | Nigromante | hi |
| 18:12.35 | wizzomafizzo | stew, Ah, thanks for that =) |
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| 18:13.14 | stew | wizzomafizzo: same goes for pager, i don't know if sensible-browser runs www-browser or x-www-browser, hopefully it does something smart based on DISPLAY |
| 18:14.50 | wizzomafizzo | stew, I think it said it does in the man page, how could I use the tool to change my default browser? |
| 18:14.55 | wizzomafizzo | I can't figure out the right options |
| 18:15.29 | stew | wizzomafizzo: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
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| 18:16.34 | wizzomafizzo | Alright, got it, thanks again |
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| 18:24.48 | abrotman | !moo |
| 18:24.53 | abrotman | :( |
| 18:24.55 | abrotman | &moo |
| 18:25.00 | abrotman | i give up |
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| 18:25.35 | sng | abrotman: And you wonder why we won't let you into OR. |
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| 18:26.12 | abrotman | sng: because i'm a better cook than every crap restaurant in the state? |
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| 18:26.56 | mha13 | how to make that debconf will always use dialog frontend ? |
| 18:27.10 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 18:28.24 | mha13 | abrotman:10q .. (how didn't i thouth about it before ? .. ) |
| 18:28.37 | abrotman | mha13: you're welcome |
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| 18:29.01 | sng | abrotman: No touching there! |
| 18:29.06 | sng | That's a private area! |
| 18:29.13 | abrotman | sng: there won't be .. *crack* |
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| 18:29.29 | sng | Hehe. |
| 18:29.40 | peder_ | Whats the default cgi-bin , I installed apache2 with apt |
| 18:29.56 | azeem | peder_: did you read the documentation? |
| 18:30.04 | jharrisonwk | crack? |
| 18:30.11 | jharrisonwk | who has crack? |
| 18:30.18 | jharrisonwk | where is it? |
| 18:30.34 | kristalino | how can i dig an ipv6 name ? |
| 18:31.03 | simonrvn | you just do |
| 18:31.10 | simonrvn | like an ipv4 addie |
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| 18:35.12 | stoned | hi |
| 18:35.18 | simonrvn | lo |
| 18:35.54 | stoned | i spoke with rusty cooley in person |
| 18:36.05 | stoned | he told me that my timing is horrible, but my technique is very good |
| 18:36.13 | stoned | :( |
| 18:36.16 | abrotman | no soul |
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| 18:36.32 | stoned | no, my sweep picking is not solid |
| 18:36.43 | stoned | I'm on the beat, but individual notes can't be heard |
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| 18:37.55 | simonrvn | i don't play guitar =) |
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| 18:38.53 | abrotman | simonrvn is a member of the unrhythm section |
| 18:39.03 | stoned | I'm not looking to get big or popular or whatever. I just want to serenade myself. I enjoy it very much. |
| 18:39.06 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 18:39.17 | stoned | so basically, the better I get, the more fun it becomes for me |
| 18:39.17 | speeves | hmmm... |
| 18:39.18 | simonrvn | stoned: for sure |
| 18:39.29 | stoned | usually to challenge myself, if I can play something or not |
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| 18:39.59 | stoned | I don't want technique/timing to limit me or hinder me from letting my mind connect with the fretboard |
| 18:40.26 | abrotman | no soul |
| 18:40.34 | stoned | yeah, you're demonic, we get it |
| 18:40.34 | simonrvn | yeh, i know what you mean. i want to get there with my singing and drumming |
| 18:41.02 | simonrvn | get that deep spiritual connection ... |
| 18:41.03 | stoned | simonrvn, good luck dude, keep at it |
| 18:41.12 | simonrvn | you too dude :) |
| 18:41.14 | stoned | dude man you know exactly what I'm talking about |
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| 18:41.29 | stoned | I've had that a few times, but mostly by accident I think |
| 18:41.42 | speeves | technique != musicality |
| 18:41.45 | Hotwire | hi, i just install deb sarge on my pc which uses a usb wireless adaptor (which works on ubuntu dapper), deb doesn't detect this card in lspci but it does show in kinfocenter, how can i get it working? |
| 18:41.48 | stoned | but when I can control that connection I can truely be a shredder |
| 18:42.00 | stoned | speeves, you might want to reconsider that |
| 18:42.27 | simonrvn | speeves: if you don't have a foundation, you can't be musicial |
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| 18:42.31 | simonrvn | cal* |
| 18:42.55 | lunitik_ | simonrvn: musician ... surely? |
| 18:43.04 | simonrvn | you don't biuld a house without a frame or a foundation |
| 18:43.07 | simonrvn | build* |
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| 18:43.27 | speeves | listen to the difference between John Williams and Segovia... |
| 18:43.29 | lunitik_ | simonrvn: irssi doesn't support spell checking? :P |
| 18:43.31 | stoned | speeves, have a look at some toccatas and fugues by JSBach, there are so many finger twisting fast and HARD runs. The point is, true harmonic movements and the embellishement of melody comes FROM having such a high class of musicality |
| 18:43.31 | simonrvn | pow-wow singer and drummer |
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| 18:43.52 | stoned | s/musicality/technique |
| 18:44.23 | stoned | if he could not play all those virtouso runs ON time having such a great organ/piano technique he would never have been able to play that |
| 18:44.26 | speeves | but, can you make Bach's pieces musical? |
| 18:44.34 | jharrisonwk | stoned: do you make music with Debian? |
| 18:44.37 | stoned | yes |
| 18:44.40 | speeves | sorry y'all |
| 18:44.41 | stoned | I do actually :D |
| 18:44.47 | speeves | i will stop the music stuff |
| 18:44.47 | jharrisonwk | oh ok |
| 18:44.49 | speeves | :P |
| 18:44.52 | debian | hi |
| 18:44.53 | jharrisonwk | its making more sense now then |
| 18:45.06 | debian | hi ... everybody |
| 18:45.12 | jharrisonwk | uh |
| 18:45.13 | jharrisonwk | hi |
| 18:45.14 | simonrvn | hi |
| 18:45.54 | stoned | Actually I export *.wav files from Hydrogen, and then import audio into Audacity and layer guitar/bass over it |
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| 18:46.23 | stoned | then I use some filters to clean it out of course. I also record clean tone sometimes and add distortion with software stompboxes |
| 18:46.33 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 18:46.58 | simonrvn | i like the results :) |
| 18:47.06 | stoned | lol |
| 18:47.16 | stoned | well I learned to clean the noise a bit more |
| 18:47.18 | jharrisonwk | I mainly run some mp3 files through amarok or so and enjoy what comes out of my speakers |
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| 18:47.32 | stoned | http://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/song2.mp3 |
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| 18:47.45 | stoned | this is what the end result is so far |
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| 18:47.51 | stoned | I can't seem to get a good tone for the guitar |
| 18:48.05 | stoned | if you know anything about it, don't hold out on me hehe |
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| 18:49.30 | stoned | btw, this is the riff rusty cooley commented on. He said you're on time, with the beat, but the individual arpeggios don't sound the same each time you play the riff, the high note keeps moving forward in the chord, so I need to modify my time signature a bit, add/remove a note or two to even it out so you can hear the individual notes |
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| 18:49.58 | azeem | stoned: can I suggest you take the conversation to #debian-offtopic? |
| 18:50.06 | stoned | yes you can |
| 18:50.08 | syntaxx | how can i install apache2 with php4 support? do i just need apt-get install apache2 php4 and apache2 with php4 support already? |
| 18:50.46 | rickbauls | hey, i figured this would be the right room to go to for apt questions. I there a way to remove libraries that have no reason to be installed (ie the program they were installed for was removed)? |
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| 18:50.56 | azeem | rickbauls: deborphan |
| 18:51.14 | rickbauls | ooh sweet. |
| 18:51.23 | beer | can I install debian with only a cd ? |
| 18:51.31 | rickbauls | offtopic, kinda, but how about for fedora? |
| 18:51.33 | allefant | how could i find out why "cmake" depends on "emacsen-common"? |
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| 18:52.16 | allefant | i need to install cmake, but don't want emacsen-common (too big for my dialup connection) |
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| 18:54.11 | azeem | allefant: probably it's written in lisp |
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| 18:55.46 | ed_ | i have to do some reinstallations shortly, i've noticed that apt doesn't always check to see if a package has alreay been downloaded in /var/cache/apt/archives, what's the simplst way of avoiding the re-downloading on my various boxes? |
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| 18:57.49 | smax | hi gang |
| 18:58.20 | smax | is installing ATI Radeon drivers just as feasable as nvidia cards ? |
| 18:58.30 | ed_ | i think so |
| 18:58.32 | abrotman | !ati |
| 18:58.38 | pollywog | I was using my Palm T2 with VMware on Sarge and after upgrading to Etch, my T2 is not detected in VMware. Anyone happen to know what changed? |
| 18:58.41 | abrotman | %ati |
| 18:58.41 | badgers | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt, or for etch/sid see <fglrx> |
| 18:58.45 | stew | smax: which radeon chipset do you have? |
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| 18:58.52 | sandro_ | hi |
| 18:58.53 | ed_ | abrotman: dpkg has left the building |
| 18:59.04 | abrotman | i keep forgetting |
| 18:59.11 | sandro_ | is possible to wodnload via dcc with bitchx? |
| 18:59.16 | stew | dpkg is in a building with no power |
| 18:59.18 | smax | i believe its a radeon 9000 |
| 18:59.21 | smax | how can i tell ? |
| 18:59.29 | stew | smax: lspci |
| 18:59.57 | smax | ho well i'll have to check that out when i go home. im not at my linux box at the moment. im in my schools computer lab |
| 19:00.01 | smax | no internet at home. |
| 19:00.15 | smax | is there a web page on this issue? |
| 19:00.22 | stew | smax: if its <= 9200 you don't need the non-free drivers, the free drivers that come with x support 3d accelleration |
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| 19:00.48 | pollywog | how do I know if I need the hotplug package in Etch? |
| 19:01.06 | pollywog | I used it in Sarge but it does not appear to be installed now |
| 19:01.07 | stew | pollywog: if you are going to need to load firmware and you are NOT going to have udev installed |
| 19:01.09 | abrotman | are you going to install gnome ? |
| 19:01.19 | pollywog | stew: tnx |
| 19:01.24 | smax | stew: i cant get a resolution beyond 600x400 i believe. does this necessarly mean that i lack drivers, or will debian automattically install them upon debian installation? |
| 19:01.38 | abrotman | stew: i have firmware with udev |
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| 19:02.12 | azeem | allefant: emacsen-common is 17KB here |
| 19:02.20 | pollywog | is hotplug incompatible with udev? |
| 19:02.21 | abrotman | too big! |
| 19:02.31 | stew | smax: if you can't get higher resolution than that is not becuase of the driver, its because of the config, the free drivers support lots and lots of cards for 2d, just not for 3d |
| 19:02.36 | abrotman | i think udev is incompatible with everything ... |
| 19:02.37 | allefant | azeem: ah, thanks |
| 19:02.50 | allefant | i'll download it then after all, i had read it as MB :) |
| 19:02.51 | pollywog | abrotman: yes it seems it is |
| 19:02.57 | stew | pollywog: udev replaces it in testing/unstable (udev requires it in stable) |
| 19:03.08 | pollywog | stew: tnx |
| 19:03.27 | pollywog | I guess I will have to ask the VMware folks what is going on then |
| 19:03.31 | stew | afaict the trend is for more and more things to require udev and less things to conflict with it |
| 19:04.38 | pollywog | where is the bot? |
| 19:04.59 | abrotman | dpkg is dead |
| 19:05.03 | pollywog | oic |
| 19:05.11 | abrotman | you have badgers available |
| 19:05.33 | pollywog | badgers is a bot? |
| 19:05.33 | badgers | pollywog: i don't know |
| 19:06.14 | smax | how do I congigure my video card? |
| 19:06.30 | smax | err configure |
| 19:06.34 | ed_ | smax: what did google say? |
| 19:06.39 | stew | !drxx smax |
| 19:06.49 | stew | &drxx smax |
| 19:06.52 | ed_ | smax: try, "ati graphics the debian way" |
| 19:06.55 | abrotman | badgers: drxx smax |
| 19:06.56 | badgers | smax: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 19:07.08 | abrotman | i don't know what trigger bagders has |
| 19:07.10 | abrotman | badgers |
| 19:07.13 | smax | thanx fellaz. |
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| 19:07.43 | pollywog | I think dpkg was smarter but that's just me |
| 19:08.02 | abrotman | i don't htink sussudio has synced badgers in a while |
| 19:08.10 | stew | i'll get aptitude in here, which has synced more recently |
| 19:08.11 | ed_ | pollywog: do you know how i can setup an apt source on nfs? |
| 19:08.17 | ed_ | scratch that. |
| 19:08.24 | zirikili | does anyone can suggest pop3 debian package that uses passwd for authentication? |
| 19:08.33 | pollywog | ed_: sorry I have not used nfs in a long time |
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| 19:08.47 | aptitude | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of stew) |
| 19:08.50 | abrotman | zirikili: any of them should be able to |
| 19:08.52 | abrotman | aptitude: wb |
| 19:08.53 | aptitude | thanks, abrotman. It's good to be back. |
| 19:08.57 | abrotman | aptitude: who owns you |
| 19:08.57 | aptitude | stew does |
| 19:09.00 | abrotman | yay! |
| 19:09.17 | abrotman | i wonder if don got hit with a rolling blackout |
| 19:09.32 | stew | abrotman: he said it shoudln't be, they are on thier own grid |
| 19:09.43 | abrotman | with their own generator ? |
| 19:09.46 | sussudio | abrotman: i synced badgers last bleeding week |
| 19:09.47 | stew | aparantly not |
| 19:09.53 | abrotman | sussudio: eh .. no |
| 19:09.55 | stew | which are the bleeding weeks? |
| 19:09.57 | zirikili | abrotman: is there any special configuration to use that authentication? |
| 19:10.00 | sussudio | abrotman: eh YES |
| 19:10.02 | abrotman | aptitude: drxx sussudio |
| 19:10.03 | aptitude | sussudio: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 19:10.06 | abrotman | wtf .. |
| 19:10.14 | abrotman | aptitude: xmd5 |
| 19:10.15 | aptitude | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 19:10.23 | abrotman | where did the bit about xorgmd5 go ? |
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| 19:10.41 | stew | i guess badgers is more up to date then |
| 19:10.43 | sussudio | %listkeys xorg |
| 19:10.44 | badgers | Factoid search of 'xorg' by key (15 of 44): #debian xorg7 ;; #debian xorgmd5 ;; _default ati+xorg blankscreen ;; _default xorg ;; _default xorg howto ;; _default xorg sid ;; _default xorg69to7 ;; _default xserver-xorg ;; get xorg ;; xorg howto ;; xorg sarge ;; xorg sid ;; xorg-nvidia ;; xorg7 ;; xorgmd5. |
| 19:10.52 | zirikili | abrotman: I remember it was default some years ago. Now seems to be a special feature. |
| 19:10.53 | simonrvn | %xorgmd5 |
| 19:10.54 | badgers | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will no longer work, To see if this is the case 'md5sum -c /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf/md5sum' - if this files differ, then dpkg-reconfigure will not overwrite your existing xorg.conf. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure ... |
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| 19:10.58 | abrotman | no .. the damn drxx factoid mentioned xorgmd5 |
| 19:10.59 | smax | where can i find the source to an existing program? (being sort) |
| 19:11.03 | madclicker | is there any other command to talk to a user on console beside "talk"? |
| 19:11.09 | abrotman | zirikili: depends on the pop3d |
| 19:11.21 | r_marvin | madclicker: write sau wall |
| 19:11.24 | abrotman | madclicker: wall will talk to all of them .. try write |
| 19:11.25 | smax | do the source code to bash commands come with linux ? |
| 19:11.43 | zirikili | abrotman: do you know some server that uses that as default? |
| 19:11.45 | abrotman | sussudio: sorry .. carry on! :) |
| 19:11.50 | abrotman | zirikili: courier i think |
| 19:11.53 | sussudio | you're confusing linux with gnu, smax. |
| 19:11.53 | stew | madclicker: write is more simple and there is ytalk which is a beefed up talk |
| 19:11.58 | abrotman | probably dovecot |
| 19:12.07 | madclicker | r_marvin, abrotman thanks |
| 19:12.10 | stew | smax: "apt-get source bash" will get you the source |
| 19:12.14 | wizzomafizzo | Would anybody be able to point me to a tutorial on getting mpd running in Debian? I've tried so many times and I can never get it right. |
| 19:12.14 | stew | nooo |
| 19:12.22 | madclicker | stew, got it |
| 19:12.23 | zirikili | abrotman: thanks |
| 19:12.36 | smax | i want the source to the command 'sort' no the bash interpreter itself |
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| 19:13.42 | simonrvn | wizzomafizzo: cp /etc/mpd.conf .mpd.conf; editor ~/.mpd.conf; mpd ~/.mpd.conf |
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| 19:14.14 | wizzomafizzo | simonrvn: I'll try that =P |
| 19:14.33 | lmh | hi all. need to add a new kernel to my lilo-config (XEN-Kernel), but can't figure out how to do that, because the initrd.img - file seems missing for my new kernel |
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| 19:15.01 | lmh | i installed a precompiled-xen - kernel |
| 19:15.40 | lmh | this one: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/downloads/xen-3.0.2-install-x86_64.tgz |
| 19:15.45 | abrotman | sussudio: please forgive me!!!! |
| 19:16.22 | sussudio | :-| |
| 19:17.09 | lmh | it left me with those files in my boot-dir: vmlinuz-2.6.16-xen, xen-3.0.2.gz, System.map-2.6.16-xen, config-2.6.16-xen |
| 19:17.24 | lmh | but no initrd.img - xen |
| 19:17.35 | simonrvn | then you don't need one... |
| 19:18.06 | sussudio | traceroute stops somewhere at ucr.edu. what happened with dpkg? |
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| 19:18.58 | lmh | simonrvn: but what shall i put into the lilo.conf - file then? |
| 19:19.06 | wizzomafizzo | simonrvn: I can't believe it was that easy, thanks |
| 19:19.08 | Ronin | sussudio: poweroutage i think |
| 19:19.15 | simonrvn | uh... the kernel image... |
| 19:19.17 | lmh | this:?image=/vmlinuz-xen |
| 19:19.17 | lmh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.17 | lmh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.17 | lmh | # restricted |
| 19:19.17 | lmh | # alias=1 |
| 19:19.18 | lmh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.19 | sussudio | :-| |
| 19:19.21 | sussudio | ... |
| 19:19.32 | simonrvn | remove the initrd line (or comment it) |
| 19:19.40 | simonrvn | thank you sussudio :) |
| 19:19.54 | gteppel_ | I have a directory on a windows box that I would like to mirror (in realtime) to a directory on a linux box that I only have ssh access to. What is the best tool for the job? |
| 19:19.55 | lmh | simonrvn: that's all? |
| 19:19.56 | simonrvn | pasting isn't tolerated here |
| 19:20.07 | simonrvn | yes. it's not something complicated |
| 19:20.17 | lmh | ok |
| 19:20.19 | lmh | thanks |
| 19:20.21 | simonrvn | :) |
| 19:20.59 | lmh | simonrvn: got an error message of lilo |
| 19:21.04 | lmh | on the cmd-line |
| 19:21.13 | simonrvn | did you re-run it? |
| 19:21.29 | lmh | yes, always this error: Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. Name change: '/dev/dm-0' -> '/dev/evms/hda1' Fatal: Kernel /vmlinuz-xen is too big |
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| 19:22.04 | simonrvn | you can ignore the first. what's the kernel size? ls -l vmlinuz-whatever |
| 19:22.08 | Darxus | Resolving dependencies... |
| 19:22.10 | Darxus | open: 9067; closed: 4966; defer: 0; conflict: 7 .No solution found within the allotted time. Try harder? [Y/n] |
| 19:22.13 | Darxus | hahah |
| 19:22.19 | Darxus | "aptitude -f install" actually said that on my debian testing machine |
| 19:22.19 | simonrvn | stop fricking pasting here |
| 19:22.28 | azeem | simonrvn: uhm, he just joined |
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| 19:22.41 | azeem | it's not entirely obvious for new users that they shouldn't paste in here |
| 19:22.43 | simonrvn | i know. and he started right away |
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| 19:22.54 | simonrvn | sorry, that's true |
| 19:23.15 | Darxus | I knew better, sorry, but it cracked me up enough that I thought it was worth it |
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| 19:23.31 | usama | h all |
| 19:23.34 | usama | hi all |
| 19:23.35 | azeem | Darxus: ah, so: 21:13 < simonrvn> stop fricking pasting here |
| 19:23.37 | usama | :) |
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| 19:23.47 | lmh | simonrvn: : 1606788 |
| 19:23.50 | usama | how can I change the password of my irc account? |
| 19:24.00 | asg | usama: /msg nickserv help |
| 19:24.03 | ed_ | usama: /msg nickserv help |
| 19:24.09 | Ronin | usama: irc account? /msg nickserv help |
| 19:24.15 | simonrvn | it shouldn't be too big... i wonder why it's whining |
| 19:24.17 | WoodyWoodpecker | Can someone post his '' /etc/bash_complitation '' is he runs '' etch '' please? |
| 19:24.17 | ed_ | st st stereo |
| 19:24.20 | psychonate | I'm on Etch, and I see no nvidia-glx package, only nvidia-glx-legacy? Is there no nvidia-glx package at all? |
| 19:24.31 | asg | !sing sussudio |
| 19:24.32 | simonrvn | bash_completion |
| 19:24.38 | azeem | asg: down |
| 19:24.51 | WoodyWoodpecker | Sorry: s/complitation/completion/ |
| 19:24.52 | asg | azeem: yeah, just noticed :/ |
| 19:24.58 | lmh | simonrvn: my normal one is 1479966 |
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| 19:25.12 | simonrvn | weird |
| 19:25.19 | sussudio | %why is nvidia-glx not in testing |
| 19:25.19 | badgers | nvidia-glx is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx |
| 19:25.20 | simonrvn | install grub :P j/k |
| 19:25.25 | lmh | simonrvn: shall i switch to grub? |
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| 19:25.41 | simonrvn | well, you could, won't hurt anything |
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| 19:25.44 | simonrvn | oh |
| 19:25.45 | sussudio | psychonate: try that url. |
| 19:25.48 | simonrvn | @wb paster |
| 19:25.48 | lmh | my prob: my boot-partition is XFS |
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| 19:25.50 | ravenbird | Welcome back paster, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of cheese. |
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| 19:26.08 | simonrvn | lmh: so is mine: /dev/hda1 / 277.7 204.2 73.5 74% xfs |
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| 19:26.39 | lmh | simonrvn: doesn't grub have a prob with XFS-boot - parts? |
| 19:26.46 | OleMoudi | question: can I expect *all* debian stable packages to be secure according with the latest bug/exploit reports? |
| 19:26.52 | ed_ | lmh: no probs |
| 19:26.57 | azeem | debhelper: wb |
| 19:27.00 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: It had probs. |
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| 19:27.13 | lmh | simonrvn: any idea how to switch from lilo to grub? |
| 19:27.13 | azeem | !hi |
| 19:27.13 | dpkg | hello, azeem |
| 19:27.15 | simonrvn | dpkg -l lilo grub : pn lilo; ii grub |
| 19:27.16 | dpkg | ii lilo grub : pn lilo; ii grub 1.5-1.1 simonrvn's private porn collection |
| 19:27.24 | lmh | i did a ap-get install grub up to now |
| 19:27.26 | ed_ | lmh: if you do that, make sure you build xfs as a kernel driver, not as a module, which i think is is in stable |
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| 19:27.37 | WoodyWoodpecker | Please, somebody post '' /etc/bash_completion '' running on '' debian etch ''. |
| 19:27.37 | simonrvn | *HAD* being the operative word |
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| 19:27.55 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: apt-get --purge remove lilo && apt-get install grub |
| 19:28.09 | Rebekah | Hi, I want to install Debian on my Laptop. What is the latest install I should Download? |
| 19:28.09 | azeem | WoodyWoodpecker: why don't you get it yourself? |
| 19:28.22 | ed_ | lmh: remember to run grub setup, if it isn't run automagically for you |
| 19:28.22 | WoodyWoodpecker | azeem: From where? |
| 19:28.27 | simonrvn | WoodyWoodpecker: dude, it's a long file. apt-get --reinstall install bash; dpkg -x bash*.deb /tmp; or /msg dpkg force-confmiss |
| 19:28.33 | azeem | nighthawk~/build$ dpkg -S /etc/bash_completion |
| 19:28.33 | azeem | bash: /etc/bash_completion |
| 19:28.58 | psychonate | sussudio: I see. I suppose I shall use the legacy packages in the meanwhile. |
| 19:29.04 | WoodyWoodpecker | simonrvn: I am not on debian :-// |
| 19:29.13 | azeem | WoodyWoodpecker: so why do you need it? |
| 19:29.23 | speeves | Rebekah: I would start with sarge, and if that doesn't install, move to etch |
| 19:29.29 | simonrvn | ed_, lmh: rootfs FSes and boot devices should always be built-in, unless there's unusual circumstances |
| 19:29.30 | azeem | WoodyWoodpecker: plus you can unpack .deb files with standard unix tools |
| 19:29.31 | WoodyWoodpecker | Reading a book about regex. |
| 19:29.33 | abrotman | !find bash_completion etch |
| 19:29.36 | speeves | i couldn't get sarge to install on my acer aspire 1690 |
| 19:29.38 | speeves | :( |
| 19:29.41 | ed_ | simonrvn: i often use initrd |
| 19:29.42 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: : is that all? no config? |
| 19:29.57 | Rebekah | well thanks speeves. |
| 19:29.59 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bash_completion' (5 of 7): (/usr/share/doc/ddtc/bash_completion) in text/ddtc ;; (/usr/share/wajig/bash_completion.py) in admin/wajig ;; (/usr/share/doc/acheck/bash_completion) in text/acheck ;; (/usr/share/doc/monotone/contrib/monotone.bash_completion.gz) in devel/monotone ;; (/usr/share/zsh/4.3.2/functions/Completion/Base/_bash_completions) in shells/zsh. |
| 19:30.04 | azeem | WoodyWoodpecker: whatever, please don't repeat your question all the time |
| 19:30.04 | speeves | you bet :) |
| 19:30.08 | abrotman | less than helpful |
| 19:30.09 | simonrvn | ed_: i don't like using them.. but some people obviously do :) |
| 19:30.11 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: grub-install /dev/hda |
| 19:30.45 | simonrvn | it's an l, not i |
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| 19:30.45 | ed_ | simonrvn: well, its not that i like, its just that i have so many boxes here that i like to keep one .config, and copy a single i386 kernel around the boxes |
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| 19:30.53 | abrotman | WoodyWoodpecker: get the bash package for etch .. and ar x <pkg> and then you get to find your file!~ |
| 19:30.57 | WoodyWoodpecker | azeem: I trying to read a book and without the file ... just won't work out well :-/ |
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| 19:31.05 | simonrvn | ed_: i see |
| 19:31.07 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: : also if /dev/hdc1 is my boot-partition?: /dev/hdc1 54G 2,8G 52G 6% / |
| 19:31.19 | azeem | WoodyWoodpecker: that's fine, please don't annoy this channel |
| 19:31.21 | simonrvn | holy.. 52 G |
| 19:31.29 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: Depends if you want it in you MBR or in the head of a specific Partition. |
| 19:32.02 | azeem | WoodyWoodpecker: you're free to ask once for trivial off-topic stuff, but please don't repeat all the time |
| 19:32.02 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: : MBR |
| 19:32.02 | WoodyWoodpecker | azeem: I understand that well, I am no noob on IRC. |
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| 19:32.10 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: Then on the dev-file of your HDD. |
| 19:32.16 | lmh | simonrvn: : what's wrong with 52G? |
| 19:32.45 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: that'd mean grub-install /dev/hda, as you said, right? |
| 19:32.49 | simonrvn | nothing :) |
| 19:32.50 | WoodyWoodpecker | azeem: Hm, #bash told me to come here. #regex didn't bother at all and #debian is off-topic. |
| 19:33.12 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: Yes, but read '' grub-install '' |
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| 19:33.52 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: yes, thanks |
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| 19:34.18 | deeghetal | does anyone know if GRUB would cause problems when trying to install a second OS like Windows XP? |
| 19:34.31 | deeghetal | When I run the setup from the CD it says I don't have any hard drives. |
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| 19:35.10 | Gathond | deeghetal: I dont think grub does, though winXP will remove grub during the installation |
| 19:35.18 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: ever did this? is it normal that it takes some minutes? |
| 19:35.26 | deeghetal | I can't get to the installation lol |
| 19:35.32 | deeghetal | So maybe it's another problem. |
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| 19:35.41 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: without notices? |
| 19:35.55 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: Without notice? |
| 19:35.55 | Gathond | deeghetal: I dont think grub has anything to do with the installer not even seeing the harddisk |
| 19:36.09 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: Yes, sometimes it takes some time. |
| 19:36.20 | sanrou | hello all~! how do i know if my fonts are managed by defoma or fontconfig? |
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| 19:36.33 | jharrisonwk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.17 | deeghetal | Could it be a SATA problem? When I tried running a partitioning CD it told me it couldn't initiate SATA... a similar error appeared when I installed Ubunutu though Ubuntu still worked. |
| 19:37.52 | enouf | deeghetal : yep |
| 19:38.06 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: doesn't it take a bit long now? |
| 19:38.14 | lmh | q |
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| 19:38.21 | deeghetal | It's just strange because Windows was on my PC and working 4 days ago. I haven't touched anything inside the case, installed Linux, and now I can't put windows back on. |
| 19:38.27 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: Yeah. What was the _exact_ comand you used? |
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| 19:38.43 | lmh | grub-install /dev/hda |
| 19:38.52 | enouf | deeghetal : You'll need to use the MAP function in GRUB to Fool win XPoop into thinking it's the 1st HDD -- it's fairly easy to do |
| 19:39.15 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: can't login to another console |
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| 19:39.18 | deeghetal | enouf: what does that entail? |
| 19:39.29 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: doesn't look good |
| 19:39.39 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: CTRL+\ |
| 19:39.42 | Weber | I cant find af guide on www.debian.org on howto configure/install my GFX or hov to configure/install fglrx ? |
| 19:39.53 | WoodyWoodpecker | SIGKILL |
| 19:40.07 | WoodyWoodpecker | Then read the manual again and do what they tell you to do. |
| 19:40.10 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: how can i do this |
| 19:40.22 | deeghetal | Can I just delete all my partitions and repartition my drive to NTFS from within Linux? |
| 19:40.24 | lmh | Ctrl+C doesn't helkp |
| 19:40.39 | enouf | deeghetal : Can you boot into GRU now ? |
| 19:40.48 | enouf | s/GRU/GRUB |
| 19:41.08 | deeghetal | how do i boot into grub |
| 19:41.22 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: ssh server asks me for login & pass, then doesn't tell me anything |
| 19:41.26 | enouf | deeghetal : How is Linux Loading now ? |
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| 19:41.41 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: so i can't start another Console |
| 19:41.48 | deeghetal | it goes through the Ubuntu boot up |
| 19:41.59 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: Well CTRL+C is SIGKILL, which is traped by someting. Use CTRL+\ witch is SIGKILL and is intrepreted by kernel rather then some userspace application. |
| 19:42.06 | simonrvn | no it isn't |
| 19:42.08 | deeghetal | If I remove the Ubuntu partition GRUB loads up and then says error |
| 19:42.15 | simonrvn | it's SIGINT |
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| 19:42.19 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: Why CTRL+F{1..6} should be free. |
| 19:42.21 | enouf | deeghetal : So Ubuntu is installed ? or just running from LiveCD ? |
| 19:42.29 | deeghetal | enouf: it's installed |
| 19:42.41 | WoodyWoodpecker | simonrvn: You mean CTRL+\ is SIGKILL? |
| 19:42.46 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: can press what i want, no change |
| 19:42.46 | WoodyWoodpecker | or SIGINT? |
| 19:42.47 | roxy_ | I am not doing any C++ dev. Can I purge all the gcc* packages ? |
| 19:42.50 | simonrvn | ^c is SIGINT |
| 19:42.59 | WoodyWoodpecker | That is what I said. |
| 19:43.00 | enouf | deeghetal : OK -- have you wiped the XPoop partitions at all ? or do they still exist |
| 19:43.08 | simonrvn | [15:41:59] WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: Well CTRL+C is SIGKILL, |
| 19:43.09 | WoodyWoodpecker | Oh no, sorry. |
| 19:43.12 | simonrvn | :) |
| 19:43.16 | WoodyWoodpecker | Yeah I saw the mistake. |
| 19:43.18 | WoodyWoodpecker | :D |
| 19:43.24 | simonrvn | np |
| 19:43.38 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: What did you do exactly? |
| 19:43.41 | deeghetal | enouf: My second hard drive is still partitioned as NTFS but there is no software on it only music files. My primary hard drive is clean of all NTFS and Fat32, it is all Linux. |
| 19:43.47 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: can press what i want, it writes it to stdout, no change |
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| 19:44.14 | enouf | deeghetal : give me a moment to propose a plan ;-) |
| 19:44.19 | deeghetal | okay :) |
| 19:44.21 | Drakeson | how can I change my session manager (e.g. from gdm to other things) |
| 19:44.22 | ed_ | deeghetal: installing linux onto a NTFS partition is not advised |
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| 19:44.34 | deeghetal | ed_: i didn't. Linux isn't on my second hard drive. |
| 19:44.40 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: ResetButton? |
| 19:44.53 | lanchow | Q: i have to many Go to transmit. Is it safe to do a "partial" rsync, like : "rsync ctrl+c rsync ctrl+c rsync ctrl+c .." on a few days ? |
| 19:44.54 | ed_ | deeghetal: it should be, you dont want a crappy windows partition taking up space |
| 19:44.55 | lmh | without bootloader installed? |
| 19:44.56 | wam | Hi, where do I find how to overlay the boot-sequence (kernel and init) with some nice graphics? |
| 19:45.06 | deeghetal | ed_: i want both. lol |
| 19:45.09 | ed_ | deeghetal: just email your mp3 files to yourself and get them after the format |
| 19:45.14 | petemc | lanchow: thats fine |
| 19:45.36 | lmh | anybody an idea? |
| 19:45.43 | deeghetal | ed_: I was just going to use Wine to play all of my games in Linux but I found out yesterday that Wine doesn't work on x86_64 architecture. |
| 19:45.54 | lanchow | petemc: good, you did try so ? :) |
| 19:45.57 | WoodyWoodpecker | Imh: Twice I asked and you didn't tell me what I wanted to know. Just do so and I will be glad telling you that you can or can not reset your computer. |
| 19:46.07 | deeghetal | Really nothing works on x86_64. I can't get very much software. |
| 19:46.13 | petemc | lanchow: ive done it before, aye |
| 19:46.46 | enouf | deeghetal : One more question -- does Primary mean 'hda' (ext3) and is it ATA/IDE or SATA ? . ..and does "Second"(NTFS) mean IDE or SATA ...or Slave and hdb ?? |
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| 19:47.05 | deeghetal | they're both Sata and yes primary is hda |
| 19:47.06 | rcbarnes | I want to replace a literal string with the contents of a variable in a pipe (i.e. OLD='[[/'; NEW='te$[/t'; echo "blagh [[/ blup :-" | something [yields>] "blagh te$[/t blup:-") Naturally, regex chokes on the odd chars that may be in the NEW string, so sed is out. |
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| 19:47.19 | enouf | deeghetal : OK - hang on |
| 19:47.36 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: I did an apt-get --purge remove lilo && apt-get --purge remove grub, afterwards i did an grub-install /dev/hda |
| 19:48.11 | kbrooks | I'd like some SSH access to a Debian machine that is on amd64, so that I can compile libdvdcss2 for md64. |
| 19:48.18 | kbrooks | amd64* |
| 19:48.19 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: sorry, did an apt-get install grub inbetween |
| 19:48.36 | lmh | (after all the removes) |
| 19:48.36 | lanchow | petemc: sorry but what do you mean by "aye" (you say "aye" in french when something hurt you :)) ? |
| 19:48.39 | liran_ | i tried setting dma on using hdparm -d1 /dev/sda and got " HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device". any ideas why? |
| 19:48.54 | petemc | lanchow: aye = yes |
| 19:49.05 | lanchow | petemc: thank you |
| 19:49.08 | enouf | deeghetal : 1st you're going to need to make sure you're using a Kernel that has SATA support see http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html -- then I'll post some info on Chainloading NTFS, and using map(0,1) , map(1,0) for the NTFS HDD)) |
| 19:49.15 | valdyn | liran_: you are trying to manually set dma on where its not supported |
| 19:49.19 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: So, no signal will do anything to your console? Do you see the cursor blinking or not? |
| 19:49.31 | deeghetal | enouf: ok i'll go check that now |
| 19:49.33 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: Tell me why you don't have a second tty? |
| 19:49.37 | liran_ | valdyn: you mean the hard drive doesn't support dma? |
| 19:49.44 | enouf | deeghetal : Ok |
| 19:49.46 | valdyn | liran_: is that a SATA drive? |
| 19:49.48 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: I do this by SSH |
| 19:50.06 | liran_ | valdyn: i believe so. |
| 19:50.07 | valdyn | liran_: harddisks have nothing at all to do with dma support ever |
| 19:50.14 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: I can't login because it gives me the cursor, but no prompt |
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| 19:50.24 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: Yes, but at home :D |
| 19:50.28 | valdyn | liran_: just dont try to set dma on, its pointless |
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| 19:50.30 | liran_ | valdyn: its a laptop :P |
| 19:50.37 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: even if i do it without ssh |
| 19:50.48 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: yes, @ home |
| 19:50.49 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: You did this actually _over_ ssh? |
| 19:51.00 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: I am not @ home. |
| 19:51.05 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: yes, that's a prob? |
| 19:51.23 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: No, but that is something you could have mentioned some time earlier. |
| 19:51.33 | WoodyWoodpecker | Start a second ssh-session. |
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| 19:51.49 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: i cant |
| 19:51.53 | WoodyWoodpecker | Check if a grub process is running and kill it. |
| 19:51.59 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: why? |
| 19:52.16 | deeghetal | enouf: I'm using the Silicon Image 3112 (2-port Integrated Chip) and it looks like the site says it works? |
| 19:52.34 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: : it asks me for user & pass, then i put it in, and it doesn'T geive me a shell |
| 19:52.57 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: only a cursor |
| 19:53.02 | Ryushin | What is the best way to test the age of a file in seconds? If it's older than 90 seconds I want to do something to it. |
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| 19:53.14 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: and i can write stuff to the monitor |
| 19:53.15 | enouf | deeghetal : Ok -- I have to also check with which kernel too -- but I think you have GRUB related issues |
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| 19:53.27 | valdyn | Ryushin: what are you trying to do? |
| 19:53.28 | deeghetal | ok |
| 19:53.31 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: Hm, that is weird. |
| 19:53.40 | deeghetal | I'm using Ubuntu Dapper if that helps |
| 19:53.42 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: doesn't this look as a major kernel prob? |
| 19:53.43 | cr3 | where can I specific the ignoreABI flag when starting xorg? |
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| 19:53.54 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: It is not a kernel problem. It is grub |
| 19:53.59 | stew | deeghetal: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 19:54.01 | Drakeson | what does db_get do? |
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| 19:54.08 | Hocus | hi, grub can boot from an hard disk that has a pure-windows installation (nt mbr) ? |
| 19:54.24 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: Now, I would kill the computer (where ever it is) and do this: '' grub-install --no-floppy /dev/hd? '' |
| 19:54.28 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: even without ssh, directly i can't log in |
| 19:54.44 | valdyn | Hocus: eh? |
| 19:54.45 | WoodyWoodpecker | But do it _local_ and try to go to '' init S '' before. |
| 19:54.56 | stew | Ryushin: "info find" and go to finding files->time, but i dunno if you can test by seconds, only by minutes |
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| 19:55.00 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: Then do a hardware interrupt. |
| 19:55.01 | enouf | deeghetal : Map command (and whole GRUB Manual) http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#map -- http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows |
| 19:55.02 | valdyn | Hocus: the mbr is either grub, then grub can load, or its not, then it cant |
| 19:55.07 | stew | Ryushin: or you are going to have to do something like parse the output of stat |
| 19:55.47 | Ryushin | valdyn: I'm have mrtg monitor the cpu stats for user, wait, system. I don't want to run vmstat 3 times each minute, just once. If the file exists, and is younger than 60 seconds, then respond with that data, otherwise, run vmstat again. |
| 19:56.00 | Ryushin | stew: Yea, find can do minutes. |
| 19:56.00 | enouf | deeghetal : I'll post what the NTFS should look like in GRUB -- you may need to use a GRUB Boot floppy and run certain commands to edit the entries in /etc/boot/menu.lst |
| 19:56.15 | deeghetal | ok thanks |
| 19:56.16 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: still lilo active, does the booting |
| 19:56.16 | Hocus | valdyn i've two hard disks; one has grub and a linux installation |
| 19:56.21 | Hocus | the other just has windows |
| 19:56.29 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: strange, i thought i removed it |
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| 19:56.33 | valdyn | Ryushin: why dont you script that then instead of polling the file? |
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| 19:56.56 | Hocus | previously i got grub on windows too and all worked |
| 19:56.58 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: No, it is removed if you have lilo completet your installatin. |
| 19:56.58 | lmh | root |
| 19:57.16 | Hocus | now the 2nd hard disk just has windows and grub refses to boot |
| 19:57.18 | Hocus | ;( |
| 19:57.19 | WoodyWoodpecker | s/completet/completed/ |
| 19:57.27 | Hocus | valdyn : that's all |
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| 19:58.16 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: : my system is up, I just try it again |
| 19:58.33 | Ryushin | valdyn: I did have a response for you, like it's polling a different machine through NRPE, but do you have another idea on how to do it? |
| 19:58.43 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: looks like the same prob |
| 19:58.43 | roxy_ | why is firefox dependent of gcc ? |
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| 19:59.01 | valdyn | Ryushin: beside stat? no |
| 19:59.14 | Ryushin | Then I'll parse stat then. Thanks much. |
| 19:59.18 | lmh | and b4 it tells me stuff like [ 126.222405] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 |
| 19:59.19 | valdyn | roxy_: it isnt? |
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| 19:59.57 | lmh | and it tells me: Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation fault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and can be ignored. |
| 20:00.03 | Hocus | valdyn HELP me svp ,9 |
| 20:00.05 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: fd0 is your "floppy disc 0" |
| 20:00.17 | smax | peace gang |
| 20:00.21 | WoodyWoodpecker | Add '' --no-floppy '' to your command. |
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| 20:00.39 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: shall i kill grub-install first? |
| 20:00.49 | roxy_ | valdyn: I am following the debian security book. It says to uninstall dev package such as gcc for user like me(not developper). Look : http://rafb.net/paste/results/2lvido49.html |
| 20:01.20 | lmh | WoodyWoodpecker: can't kill it, have to hardwarereset again |
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| 20:01.54 | valdyn | roxy_: try fixing your install first |
| 20:01.58 | Gathond | roxy_: firefox (as far as a quick look tells me) depends on libgcc1, which depends on gcc-base, this it not as such gcc itself (note this is on sid, so YMMV) |
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| 20:01.59 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: Try to kill it before you do a hardware reset. |
| 20:02.17 | aeronadix | I am trying to compile a kernel for my system. How do I modify mkinitrd not to use cramfs by default? |
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| 20:02.40 | stew | aeronadix: what version of the kernel are you comiling? |
| 20:02.47 | stew | compiling* |
| 20:02.47 | valdyn | roxy_: or run 'apt-get remove gcc', some aptitude features are more confusing that useful |
| 20:02.48 | aeronadix | 2.6.16 |
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| 20:03.18 | stew | aeronadix: you dont' want to use mkinitrd for >= 2.6.13, its devfs based. use yaird or initramfs which create cpio based ramdisks |
| 20:03.35 | roxy_ | valdyn: will that still tells me if some package may be broken ? |
| 20:03.48 | valdyn | roxy_: yes |
| 20:03.51 | stew | aeronadix: initramfs-tools depends on udev, but is preferred, so unless you are trying to avoid udev, use it, otherwise use yaird |
| 20:03.54 | roxy_ | valdyn: thanks |
| 20:04.00 | lmh | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.12 | lmh | even with --no-floppy |
| 20:04.47 | magnus | Hm I have a strange problem, when I do the command "ls *" or any derivative using *, all I get is: "ls: invalid option -- =", anyone know what can be wrong? |
| 20:04.54 | WoodyWoodpecker | lmh: Well I don't have the manual, so I can't help you then. Try some other stuff what maybe is documented in the man. |
| 20:04.56 | aeronadix | stew, I don't really care which I use, as long as it boots, cause I keep getting kernel panic. I configured the kernel to use file system staticly instead of modules, and didn't use the make-kpkg --initrd option, but it doesn't work |
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| 20:05.18 | stew | aeronadix: "cant' mount root"? or something else? |
| 20:05.27 | aeronadix | stew, yep, exactly |
| 20:05.48 | aeronadix | stew, but when I made the file system stuff static instead of modules, same thing |
| 20:05.59 | Gathond | magnus: is there by any chance something called "=" in that directory |
| 20:06.00 | stew | aeronadix: if the fs is already compiled in, you probably forgot the driver for your ide/sata/scsi controller |
| 20:06.17 | valdyn | !custom kernel |
| 20:06.17 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD", or see <debian kernel image> |
| 20:06.21 | magnus | Gathond: yes, thanks, that explains it |
| 20:06.54 | stew | magnus: "ls -- *" should work in that case |
| 20:06.56 | aeronadix | stew, you know if I take my current config file and then do make oldconfig, it asks a series of questions, is there a way to do an make oldconfig using menuconfig? |
| 20:07.11 | magnus | Thanks! :) |
| 20:07.18 | magnus | stew: (it did work) |
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| 20:07.28 | stew | aeronadix: there is not. but you can take the default for all those by doing "make oldconfig < /dev/null" iirc |
| 20:07.32 | magnus | Gah hate nonalphanumerical chars in names |
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| 20:08.30 | Suprano | even ' - ' ? |
| 20:08.46 | Suprano | (just the -) |
| 20:08.53 | aeronadix | stew, do you know how to modify mkinitrd or what is that talking about, is it a file, where? |
| 20:09.05 | magnus | ..stupid mininova always uses = in their torrent names :( (using mininova to download debian only ofc) ;) |
| 20:09.25 | stew | aeronadix: you mean modify a mkinitrd generated initrd? |
| 20:09.27 | stew | aeronadix: or what? |
| 20:09.29 | hjubal | hola |
| 20:09.56 | Hoxzer | hjubal: if you heard that your girl friend was a cylon would you still fuck her? |
| 20:09.59 | aeronadix | stew, Ahh, i don't know, just tell me what to do, cause I am not understanding the above |
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| 20:10.28 | aeronadix | !kp |
| 20:10.28 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra' |
| 20:10.36 | Thelma | :) |
| 20:10.41 | aeronadix | !kp mantra |
| 20:10.41 | dpkg | The kernel compilation mantra is make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
| 20:11.17 | hjubal | Hoxzer, am I a boy? |
| 20:11.41 | Hoxzer | :/ .? |
| 20:12.00 | Hoxzer | Maybe depends on your sexual state |
| 20:12.05 | Hoxzer | http://www.rp-online.de/layout/showbilder/641-BUSH__3P756_EQG_NHI.jpg |
| 20:12.07 | stew | Hoxzer: please keep it on topic |
| 20:12.28 | aeronadix | stew, when I tryto compile using --initrd option it says you must either apply the initrd cramfs patch or modify mkinitrd not to use cramfs by default. I would like to do either of those two |
| 20:12.51 | stew | aeronadix: oh you can ignore that, cramfs isn't used anymore. do you have udev installed? |
| 20:13.20 | aeronadix | stew, not sure |
| 20:13.47 | Weber | Could someone please give me a link on howto install my ati 9700 gfx ? Please.. Im desperate |
| 20:13.55 | aeronadix | stew, I am gonna go ahead and ignore it and see how it goes, thank sir |
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| 20:14.14 | azeem | hjubal: do you know Hoxzer? |
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| 20:14.57 | hjubal | azeem, no |
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| 20:15.20 | hjubal | I'm here to talk/learn about linux ;) |
| 20:15.24 | azeem | hjubal: hi |
| 20:15.24 | aeronadix | stew, what udev? |
| 20:15.31 | azeem | Hoxzer: stop harassing newcomers |
| 20:15.36 | hjubal | hi azeem |
| 20:15.52 | enouf | deeghetal : you've been patient -- see http://pastebin.ca/101340 -- NOTE: I hope I have that correct (I'm used to win98, no NTFS, but I've seen/heard it done before) -- Hope Someone else takes a look too please, and corrects whatever mistakes I may have made |
| 20:16.12 | aeronadix | Wa Huwal, ALi Al, Azeem |
| 20:16.25 | stew | aeronadix: does "dpkg -l udev" give you a version number in the second column or (none) |
| 20:16.27 | azeem | aeronadix: please write in english in here (I don't speak arabic) |
| 20:17.25 | aeronadix | stew, yep |
| 20:17.38 | aeronadix | stew, yep 0.056-3 |
| 20:17.46 | stew | oh |
| 20:17.48 | stew | hmm |
| 20:18.07 | stew | aeronadix: so you are on stable |
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| 20:18.18 | aeronadix | stew, yeah, I'm no genius |
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| 20:18.43 | stew | aeronadix: np :). is there a reason you are compiling your own kernel isntead of just using a stock kernel? |
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| 20:18.57 | aeronadix | stew, wireless networking |
| 20:19.04 | lunitik | most would prolly tell you you're an idiot for running unstable actually |
| 20:19.07 | abrotman | COWS! |
| 20:19.13 | stew | aeronadix: i'd recommend you use a backported kernel, /msg dpkg stable 2.6.16 |
| 20:19.17 | abrotman | and you're definitely not a genius |
| 20:19.53 | enouf | deeghetal : See this too ;-) http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/45223-quad-booting-windows-linux.html >> oh boohoo... << ""deeghetal has left channel #debian"" |
| 20:20.19 | enouf | oh well -- better luck next time :P |
| 20:20.29 | dj_ryan | ok so installing on a non-raid works for 'testing' |
| 20:20.36 | dj_ryan | but trying to install on a root raid, fails on bootup. |
| 20:20.39 | dj_ryan | <sad> |
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| 20:21.30 | stew | dj_ryan: you might check http://bugs.debian.org/debian-installer |
| 20:21.55 | enouf | has taken only 1 Codeine so far all day :-) -- I'm signing off anyway for now - I need to rest |
| 20:22.10 | dj_ryan | the issue is on restart however |
| 20:22.20 | hjubal | stew, why do you think it's not a good idea using a custom kernel? |
| 20:23.58 | stew | hjubal: in his case he's trying to use a much newer kernel than what is supported by the tools in stable, afaict the only reason he's compiling is becuase no newer pre-compiled image is available in stable, that "/msg dpkg stable 2.6.16" will give him instructions that will give him a newer kernel + the newer tools he needs like newer grub newer initrd generator, newer udev |
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| 20:24.23 | dj_ryan | stew: as in i should file one or look for one? |
| 20:24.40 | stew | dj_ryan: look for one, and maybe file one if you don't find one |
| 20:24.48 | hjubal | stew, ok, tnx |
| 20:24.53 | stew | dj_ryan: are you using a daily or the beta2? |
| 20:25.06 | dj_ryan | good question, beta2 i think. |
| 20:25.23 | dj_ryan | when i do a raid1 install i _need_ /boot right? |
| 20:25.24 | stew | dj_ryan: that's several months old at this point, you should try a daily before filing probably |
| 20:25.52 | aeronadix | azeem, the Most High, the Supreme in Glory |
| 20:26.13 | dj_ryan | yeah i downloaded it from http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 20:26.20 | dj_ryan | so i need to nab the daily wherever that is |
| 20:26.32 | dj_ryan | oh nm |
| 20:26.35 | stew | dj_ryan: same place |
| 20:26.56 | stew | might as well tape it into the off position |
| 20:26.56 | dj_ryan | man my work internet is slower than my home internet! |
| 20:26.57 | stew | :) |
| 20:27.20 | dj_ryan | i have a light switch that controls computers, and it has a label 'no' |
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| 20:30.33 | gniretar_work | hi all |
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| 20:33.29 | possie | are the non-US branches still alive in debian ? |
| 20:33.41 | stew | possie: no, /msg dpkg crypto in main |
| 20:34.04 | possie | stew, well i'm looking at bugs.debian.org at the release-critical bugs, and i still non-US stuff |
| 20:34.36 | stew | possie: can you give me an example? |
| 20:34.42 | azeem | possie: maybe you look at RC bugs in stable? |
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| 20:35.31 | possie | stew, http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ down at the bottom |
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| 20:36.33 | evilbulgarian | hi, looking for a good imap server what do u guys recommend cyrus or courier? |
| 20:36.41 | tbx | Doltron, defender of the Stupidverse, created a file named "-=exit=-.rar" all attempts to rename fail, with "mv: invalid option -- =" - I tried mv "\-\=...."; mv '\-\=..."; how do I do this? |
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| 20:37.06 | stew | tbx: mv -- -=exit=-.rar someothername.rar |
| 20:38.00 | tbx | stew: Thank you -- /very/ -=very=- much! Perfect! |
| 20:38.16 | stew | possie: i think what you are seeing is an artifact, the first few i checked are all available from us repositories |
| 20:38.31 | stew | tbx: -=you're welcome=- |
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| 20:39.18 | possie | stew, ah okee, i found it strange because i just read about how non-US isn't used anymore |
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| 20:39.32 | possie | stew, but there is a 'us' repository then? |
| 20:39.53 | stew | possie: no, i just meant that if it was really in non-US it wouldn't show up on a mirror located in the US |
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| 20:40.52 | possie | stew, ow like that :-) |
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| 20:43.40 | sybariten | excuse me, but i have a vague memory of being pointed to an "apt" channel when asking questions about apt-get and such .... now #apt seems empty. Did i dream this ? Or is it on another network ? |
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| 20:44.56 | stew | sybariten: you should just ask in a channel specific to your distro, which distro are you running? |
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| 20:48.45 | ChrisW | hi all, what package is dos2unix in? |
| 20:48.59 | nsx | just use tr |
| 20:49.07 | ChrisW | what's tr? |
| 20:49.23 | nsx | cat foo.txt | tr -d '\r' > foo.txt~; mv foo.txt~ foo.txt |
| 20:49.33 | pngwn | chrisw, apt-cache search dos2unix |
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| 20:49.38 | nsx | i mean, if you can't find what package it's in |
| 20:49.41 | streuner | dpkg, alsa =~ s/http://alsa-project.org/http://wiki.debian.org/?ALSA/ |
| 20:49.55 | nsx | it's always handy to know how to do it using tools that would be on any unix system |
| 20:49.57 | azeem | leaning toothpick syndrome |
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| 20:52.01 | streuner | dpkg, no alsa is <reply> Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist>, or http://wiki.debian.org/?ALSA , or see <alsa one-liner> |
| 20:52.01 | dpkg | streuner: okay |
| 20:53.34 | streuner | *bronco* |
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| 20:53.45 | hyde | can ethereal be used to search some string in the captured HTTP traffic? |
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| 20:54.26 | sybariten | stew, DSL, but that channel is very sleepy and if there is an apt-specific chan i could probably get help there..... |
| 20:54.44 | streuner | !they don't know |
| 20:54.44 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 20:55.23 | stew | !tell six_year_old about root |
| 20:55.27 | Maulkin | hyde: Have a look at Read filters. |
| 20:55.37 | streuner | damn, you are fast today stew :-) |
| 20:55.39 | Maulkin | hyde: if that doesn't do what you want, see ngrep |
| 20:56.08 | streuner | stew: first asg and now you... |
| 20:56.21 | phatmonkey | etch, trying to install liblablgtk-ocaml. it depends on libpng10-0, but it does not install it. i install that, but it removes gdk-imlib1, which is also a dependancy of liblablgtk-ocaml! liblablgtk-ocaml also depends on ocaml-base-3.08.3, which does not exist |
| 20:56.45 | streuner | phatmonkey: show us the whole error in paster bot (/msg dpkg paste) |
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| 20:56.55 | streuner | phatmonkey: plus your sources.list |
| 20:57.05 | aeronadix | stew, you around? |
| 20:57.11 | seeds | how do i convert a zip file to a deb package? |
| 20:57.18 | streuner | heh |
| 20:57.20 | streuner | why? |
| 20:57.39 | streuner | seeds: what kind of file is that? |
| 20:57.41 | stew | seeds: /msg dpkg mg |
| 20:57.44 | stew | aeronadix: yes |
| 20:57.54 | abrotman | stew: ELIVE!!! |
| 20:57.56 | aeronadix | I just compiled and installed my first kernel. uname -r 2.6.16, so now I am doing the we just got electricity in our village dance |
| 20:57.58 | phatmonkey | unable to load http://channels.debian.net/... um |
| 20:58.06 | seeds | cedega |
| 20:58.09 | seeds | ok |
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| 20:58.49 | streuner | phatmonkey: http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 20:58.53 | abrotman | phatmonkey: use pastebin.ca if it doesn't work |
| 20:59.00 | phatmonkey | ah, there we go, ta |
| 20:59.00 | aeronadix | stew, I did it! |
| 20:59.07 | stew | !congrats aeronadix |
| 20:59.12 | aeronadix | stew, thanks |
| 20:59.13 | stew | !congratulate aeronadix |
| 20:59.13 | dpkg | Woohoo aeronadix, you did it! |
| 20:59.21 | aeronadix | hehe |
| 20:59.23 | abrotman | does it actually work? |
| 20:59.35 | aeronadix | yeah, but the wireless situation is still the same |
| 20:59.49 | aeronadix | no wireless extensions |
| 20:59.51 | streuner | hm wired |
| 21:00.04 | streuner | zerberus:/home/streuner# ping -c1 channels.debian.net |
| 21:00.13 | streuner | 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss |
| 21:00.29 | aeronadix | the main reason I compiled is to include host_ap which I did, but its not loaded or something |
| 21:00.45 | sybariten | aeronadix, LOL @ dance |
| 21:01.24 | aeronadix | sybariten, aahhh, most of those place have 18 hours of daylight anyway |
| 21:02.19 | sybariten | streuner, i asked if someone knew an apt-centered channel, i cant really see how that can be concidered "hassling" people .... unless you're very sensitive |
| 21:02.46 | streuner | sybariten: read /topic |
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| 21:03.07 | aeronadix | sybariten, try #apt |
| 21:03.21 | SebastianG | Buenas Gente |
| 21:03.38 | sybariten | streuner, yeah, its a nice topic |
| 21:04.03 | phatmonkey | http://paste.debian.net/9732 |
| 21:04.11 | SebastianG | sorry is only english the channel? |
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| 21:04.23 | sybariten | aeronadix, yeah, thats what i asked about originally, i entered apt but it was empty so i was curious if it existed or if i was at the wrong network |
| 21:04.27 | dj_ryan | heh |
| 21:04.52 | streuner | !es |
| 21:04.52 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 21:05.02 | aeronadix | sybariten, wrong network if its not here |
| 21:05.15 | SebastianG | thx dpkg |
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| 21:08.17 | phatmonkey | whoops, any idea? is this an out of date package or something? |
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| 21:13.38 | wam | Hi all, when I have an image-file of a hdd with partitions, how can I mount one partition? |
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| 21:14.39 | streuner | phatmonkey: do you know 'bobbitt'? |
| 21:15.00 | phatmonkey | streuner, nope |
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| 21:15.08 | streuner | !bobbitt |
| 21:15.08 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
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| 21:15.48 | streuner | deb http://debian:9999/debian sarge main non-free contrib |
| 21:15.56 | streuner | deb http://debian:9999/debian etch main non-free contrib |
| 21:16.00 | phatmonkey | lol, right, hokay |
| 21:16.08 | streuner | phatmonkey: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 21:16.08 | dj_ryan | lolerskates |
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| 21:16.27 | phatmonkey | ii libc6 2.3.6-15 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
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| 21:17.37 | streuner | phatmonkey: comment all lines, exept 61 + 66 |
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| 21:17.48 | DustyDingo | hi |
| 21:17.55 | phatmonkey | yes, done that |
| 21:18.10 | phatmonkey | streuner, aaahhh, there's a version 2 in the etch repositories, i'll see if that works |
| 21:18.40 | DustyDingo | how can i add/remove services from a runlevel in debian? |
| 21:19.25 | streuner | man update-rc.d |
| 21:19.40 | phatmonkey | streuner, those packages work, thanks |
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| 21:20.58 | phatmonkey | streuner, i guess i should scrap the sarge repositories then? i'm not sure why they're there in the first place, i just use that configuration for all my debian machines |
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| 21:21.32 | streuner | phatmonkey: yes |
| 21:21.49 | streuner | if you running etch/testing it makes no sense then |
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| 21:28.49 | seeds | how to get hfs support in kernel 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 21:29.27 | Guerin | seeds: rebuild |
| 21:29.51 | seeds | k. what lines i gotta add? |
| 21:30.04 | Guerin | dunno |
| 21:30.17 | Guerin | you'll need to look at menuconfig |
| 21:30.18 | seeds | k |
| 21:30.25 | Guerin | i'm not sure if you'll have to ptch it |
| 21:30.26 | stew | seeds: that kernel already has hfs support |
| 21:30.35 | seeds | am tryin to mount an ipod |
| 21:30.40 | stew | modprobe hfs |
| 21:30.52 | seeds | k. stew |
| 21:31.04 | stew | seeds: you should, however be getting a newer kernel, that one has security vulnerabilities, /msg dpkg security |
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| 21:31.18 | seeds | k |
| 21:32.23 | seeds | i did the modprobe. and saw nothing |
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| 21:33.11 | stew | seeds: no news is good news |
| 21:33.30 | Shadowcat | heh |
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| 21:34.07 | Cooner750 | Is it possible to dual boot Debian and OS X? |
| 21:34.10 | seeds | yea kinda guess that |
| 21:34.13 | seeds | thnx |
| 21:34.28 | Shadowcat | Cooner750: yes |
| 21:34.40 | stew | seeds: if you wish you can now verify that hfs is now listed in /proc/filesystems |
| 21:34.41 | Cooner750 | Can I do it with OS X already installed though? |
| 21:35.00 | seeds | aight lemme chx |
| 21:35.49 | _rain | hi, has anyone ever had a problem where pressing a key would cause the console to just print forward slashed forever? 0_o |
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| 21:37.06 | stew | seeds: and you proabably want to read: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 21:37.16 | seeds | k |
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| 21:41.12 | DustyDingo | hm, what is the best way to edit my runlevels (manag my services) |
| 21:41.24 | dondelelcaro | DustyDingo: try update-rc.d |
| 21:41.36 | stew | DustyDingo: update-rc.d for lots of control, rcconf for just turning stuff on or off |
| 21:41.46 | DustyDingo | dondelelcaro: well the man page itself means, that it isnÄt a good idear :) |
| 21:41.57 | DustyDingo | stew: thanks |
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| 21:43.40 | enouf | !hi |
| 21:43.40 | dpkg | hello, enouf |
| 21:44.13 | enouf | !that's my bot :) |
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| 21:45.50 | devicenull | is it possible to get grub working with a USB keyboard? |
| 21:46.18 | stew | devicenull: depends on your bios |
| 21:46.27 | devicenull | bios detects it fine |
| 21:46.30 | devicenull | grub doesnt |
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| 21:47.16 | DustyDingo | devicenull: hm it should work |
| 21:47.24 | enouf | devicenull: does your POST say : Enable legacy USB support detected (or similar) |
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| 21:47.42 | devicenull | I think its a bios option |
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| 21:48.06 | unseensoul | hi |
| 21:48.07 | enouf | devicenull: You have to enable it -- depending upon how old ...what mobo? |
| 21:48.14 | devicenull | ASrock something |
| 21:48.17 | devicenull | its pretty recent |
| 21:48.22 | devicenull | LGA775 socket |
| 21:48.29 | enouf | devicenull: that's rich :p |
| 21:48.38 | enouf | Oh ok |
| 21:48.46 | stew | devicenull: on the machines i have where usb kb works in the bios, it works in grub for me |
| 21:49.13 | unseensoul | there is a mysql devel package? |
| 21:49.43 | stew | unseensoul: yes, search --names-only mysql dev |
| 21:49.47 | devicenull | my keyboard is one where if it's working, the keys light up |
| 21:49.52 | devicenull | grub doesnt light the keys up |
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| 21:49.59 | stew | unseensoul: err, apt-cache search --names-only mysql dev |
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| 21:52.34 | enouf | devicenull: the "keys light up" as a result of BIOS code and it's message |
| 21:52.46 | enouf | devicenull: during POST |
| 21:53.02 | enouf | devicenull: Can you even see your POST onscreen messages ? |
| 21:53.08 | devicenull | not without rebooting |
| 21:53.23 | devicenull | and usually they go by too fast |
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| 21:53.27 | enouf | devicenull: that's not my question |
| 21:53.46 | devicenull | let me go try it now |
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| 21:54.21 | enouf | devicenull: I'm talking about BEFORE linux starts loading -- the Power On Self Test |
| 21:54.37 | devicenull | yes |
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| 21:54.54 | devicenull | because I can press f2 on the usb keyboard to get into the bios config |
| 21:54.57 | unseensoul | stew thank you :) |
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| 21:55.15 | devicenull | after the comp has completed POST, keyboard gets disabled until an OS loads |
| 21:55.48 | Shadowcat | uhhh |
| 21:55.53 | Shadowcat | upgrade your bios |
| 21:56.01 | enouf | devicenull: hmmm.... |
| 21:56.01 | Shadowcat | btw, asrock is a cheap brand |
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| 21:56.08 | devicenull | enouf, fixed it |
| 21:56.08 | Shadowcat | and I always say buy cheap buy twice |
| 21:56.18 | devicenull | Shadowcat, I learned that after I had the mobo |
| 21:56.20 | Shadowcat | what was the problem? |
| 21:56.22 | enouf | devicenull: how so ? |
| 21:56.24 | devicenull | I enabled Legacy support in the bios |
| 21:56.27 | devicenull | I had disabled it awhile ago |
| 21:56.32 | enouf | ^_^ |
| 21:56.37 | Shadowcat | asrock is what asus rebrands components as when they don't pass verification |
| 21:56.39 | Shadowcat | aka don't use it |
| 21:57.01 | devicenull | Shadowcat, yes, but unless you want to buy me another one, I dont have a choice :P |
| 21:57.30 | enouf | Shadowcat: Well that combo Mobo w/AGP and PCIe was pretty impressive for $80.00 USD |
| 21:57.55 | Shadowcat | not really |
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| 21:58.03 | Shadowcat | if you must buy conroe, why deal with legacy? |
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| 21:58.38 | enouf | Shadowcat: Yes really -- I know of O/cers (gamers) who've maxed out their AMD64 |
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| 21:58.46 | marsje | I'm using debian testing with a 2.4.27 kernel and I want to upgrade to a 2.6 kernel. I did "apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686". Is this all I have to do? |
| 21:59.01 | Shadowcat | that should be it yes |
| 21:59.06 | marsje | wow... |
| 21:59.17 | Shadowcat | actually linux-image-2.6 |
| 21:59.20 | Shadowcat | I think |
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| 21:59.33 | enouf | who's talking to whom ???? |
| 21:59.33 | Shadowcat | you might wanna apt-cache search for a few names |
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| 21:59.58 | stew | marsje: /msg dpkg etch upgrade kernel |
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| 22:00.05 | marsje | Shadowcat: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 does something... |
| 22:00.07 | k-god | What's the preferred response to "um, Debian won't let me install two or more MTAs at the same time" these days? |
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| 22:00.25 | k-god | ... with "well, don't do that then" being relatively acceptable. |
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| 22:00.54 | azeem | "install the other ones in /usr/local and let them bind to other ports" might be an alternative |
| 22:01.11 | marsje | stew: apt-get told me to purge hotplug... maybethat needs to be added? |
| 22:01.19 | Shadowcat | no |
| 22:01.58 | stew | marsje: no that is expected |
| 22:02.46 | marsje | stew: I need to do that before I boot 2.6? |
| 22:02.57 | stew | marsje: no |
| 22:03.09 | dutche- | does anybody have a good howto about quota in debian |
| 22:03.10 | dutche- | ? |
| 22:03.31 | marsje | stew: it's udev who says it |
| 22:04.46 | stew | marsje: yes, udev is replacing the hotplug functionality |
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| 22:06.55 | Shadowcat | !asc |
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| 22:07.16 | k-god | dutche-: TLDP should be appropriate |
| 22:07.25 | k-god | dutche-: Any reason it isn't? |
| 22:07.27 | Shadowcat | heh |
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| 22:13.41 | dutche- | k-god, somebody told me it is old, but if yar sayn' |
| 22:14.34 | k-god | dutche-: I'd give it a shot and holler if docs don't seem to match reality. |
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| 22:15.22 | p0t | how do i restart my "snd" audio device |
| 22:15.51 | k-god | p0t: Load modules. |
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| 22:18.04 | g333k | Hi, I trying to burn a iso into a CD-RW but I receive a error erasing the cd-rw, why? I have installed cdrecord, cdrdao and dvdrtools.... I tried with nautilus and k3b |
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| 22:18.31 | p0t | k-god, ? |
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| 22:18.51 | amphi | g333k: try using cdrecord with different blanking options |
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| 22:20.11 | k-god | p0t: Load your sound device modules. |
| 22:20.16 | itchi | How can i echo somethings of the /proc/acpi/ I have try echo /proc/acpi/bla_bla But i have forget the exact command. Also i look how to define there an valu |
| 22:20.22 | Gnurdux | i jhust dist-upgraded; i haven;t for a while, and it borked my gnome mouse pointer; now its just default X ones |
| 22:20.23 | p0t | k-god, how |
| 22:20.44 | k-god | p0t: man modprobe. |
| 22:20.52 | amphi | itchi: WAYTTD? |
| 22:20.59 | marsje | while watching my system boot I saw it's starting AppleTalk takes a lot of time. The only apples I have are in my fridge. How do I disable AppleTalk? |
| 22:21.27 | itchi | amphi: How to get the temp value of the /proc/acpi/... ? |
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| 22:22.15 | itchi | marsje: Remove that Appletalk, if you not need it. He wait for nothings probably |
| 22:22.20 | amphi | itchi: acpi -t |
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| 22:23.04 | itchi | amphi: No, i want it with the 'echo bla_bla bla' But i forget the command of it. It's because i need to define after that an value in the proc system |
| 22:23.11 | marsje | itchi: is the package called appletalk? |
| 22:23.39 | itchi | marsje: I not more remember, but apt-cache search appletalk, gona help, i do it also now ;-) |
| 22:24.10 | itchi | marsje: Probably you have find it, there is only on result item |
| 22:24.14 | beardy | marsje: Now, the support for AppleTalk is in the kernel, strange that you have it, or that it loads, or that it takes a long time. What kernel is that? |
| 22:24.22 | beardy | s/Now/No |
| 22:24.39 | amphi | itchi: you don't get a value with echo - again, WAYTTD? |
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| 22:24.46 | marsje | beardy: I *just* upgraded from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 22:24.51 | itchi | beardy: Probably the 'netatalk - AppleTalk user binaries' is installed |
| 22:25.06 | marsje | beardy: now 2.6.16-2-686 to be exact |
| 22:25.07 | beardy | itchi: Possible, but why would it be? |
| 22:25.14 | Gnurdux | anyone else heard of that?? |
| 22:25.21 | aeronadix | oh shit my new kernel doesn't have sound |
| 22:25.33 | itchi | amphi: I'm not sure that it's with the echo, i still think, but not sure like i have forget the command, but it's somethings like that lol |
| 22:25.48 | beardy | marsje: Do you have netatalk installed? |
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| 22:25.55 | marsje | I just did apt-get remove netatalk |
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| 22:26.06 | itchi | beardy: He complain that his computer while boot time, wait to long on that appletalk; probably he not use it btw |
| 22:26.08 | enouf | marsje : are you referring to appletalk, netatalk, atalk |
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| 22:26.33 | itchi | Ronin: Can you help me? |
| 22:26.34 | marsje | enouf: I think so... I just saw it on my screen while booting |
| 22:26.55 | beardy | marsje: How long time is a "long time"? |
| 22:26.57 | itchi | marsje: Use you it? |
| 22:27.12 | itchi | marsje: Othewise remove that package, it's an classic trouble |
| 22:27.19 | beardy | marsje: And why was it installed? |
| 22:27.21 | enouf | marsje: apologies I haven't been following along -- can you inform me a bit? |
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| 22:28.16 | enouf | marsje: I got all thaty installed when choosing [+]FileServer from the d-i |
| 22:28.24 | marsje | oops, I think I saw that AppleTalk message when actually booting the previous kernel... Anyway, I removed the netatalk package now |
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| 22:28.38 | Gnurdux | Hey, a debian upgrade broke my mouse pointers in gnome |
| 22:28.39 | efaistos | hi |
| 22:28.52 | efaistos | is there a pkg of libdvdcss2 in etch ? |
| 22:28.58 | marsje | enouf: that could have been the reason I had it.. |
| 22:29.03 | itchi | marsje: Reboot once done; and you see you win 8 seconds of boot time :-p |
| 22:29.07 | efaistos | I cant read a DVD on it :( |
| 22:29.11 | Gnurdux | can somebody please help me? |
| 22:29.18 | beardy | efaistos: No. |
| 22:29.23 | itchi | marsje: Maybe, you not use that netatlk?? |
| 22:29.25 | beardy | !tell efaistos -about marillat |
| 22:29.26 | marsje | itchi: ok, I will reboot once more time.. it was pretty fast anyway |
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| 22:29.52 | marsje | itchi: I don't use netatalk that I know off.... |
| 22:29.57 | enouf | marsje: Ok -- i just installed 'apt-get install rcconf ' |
| 22:29.57 | marsje | of |
| 22:30.27 | enouf | marsje: Then 'sudo rcconf' to configure all the startup services |
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| 22:30.52 | itchi | marsje: Yeah; btw install that rcconf package, or just before installing that look to apt-cache show rcconf. Usefull app, probably you want that ;-) |
| 22:30.52 | marsje | enouf: nice tip, thanks |
| 22:31.00 | enouf | marsje: Then use the SpaceBar to tick/Untick which ines you don't wan/t ;-) |
| 22:31.16 | enouf | marsje: s/ines/ones ;-) |
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| 22:31.54 | Gnurdux | hmm |
| 22:32.55 | marsje | enouf: removed some stuff... it's leaner and meaner now... handy tool! |
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| 22:34.19 | itchi | He, no one an respons for my stupid question?? How can i get the value of "/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/C106/temperature" in the cli without an app? after that i need to define there an value in the proc also.(In another section) |
| 22:35.25 | Eulex | itchi, well, what do you mean? what are you trying to do? |
| 22:36.19 | itchi | Eulex: Trying first to get the temperature of the fan, then if to high, activating an second fan. I need to write an summer script :-/ |
| 22:36.29 | beardy | itchi: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/C106/temperature |
| 22:37.00 | beardy | itchi: But it's probably supposed to be read by a program. |
| 22:37.34 | itchi | beardy: Yeah :-) And now how to define there an value in the proc system? |
| 22:37.41 | beardy | itchi: Use some sensorreading program and parse it's output instead? |
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| 22:38.12 | itchi | beardy: No, i need to write an script to automatisate it |
| 22:38.14 | beardy | itchi: echo foo > /proc/foo/bar, but know what you are doing |
| 22:38.46 | beardy | itchi: I meant the script should read the output from a program, instead of the proc value, but perhaps it is readable? |
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| 22:39.03 | itchi | beardy: Yeah; that's is it :-) I had delete that note of it on my laptop, how to do ;-) |
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| 22:40.24 | itchi | beardy: Btw; when i boot my laptop with the powercable, the fan will not runn, if i boot the computer without the powercable an put it after 4 minutes, the fan start then. Not ask me why this stupid bugy laptop ... |
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| 22:40.30 | beardy | itchi: Notes are menat to be saved :) |
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| 22:40.58 | beardy | meant |
| 22:41.07 | beardy | itchi: Heh, sounds strange.. |
| 22:41.09 | CHodapp | I've got an FTP directory here with 'Packages' and 'Release' files that seem to mark it as a Debian repo of some unofficial software. What directory do I need to put in sources.list? |
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| 22:41.23 | itchi | beardy: I did an bad thing lol; reinstall of that thing; and had forget that not :-) The rest are synced, that note was not stored on the right place lol ;-) |
| 22:41.35 | beardy | !ownrepo |
| 22:41.36 | azeem | CHodapp: depends |
| 22:41.37 | itchi | s/not/note/ |
| 22:42.10 | stew | CHodapp: /msg dpkg repository |
| 22:42.12 | beardy | !own repo |
| 22:42.12 | dpkg | Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./"; |
| 22:42.19 | marsje | as far as I can see my system works fine with the 2.6 kernel... good enough for me to go to bed and sleep peacefully :) |
| 22:42.31 | marsje | thanks for your help |
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| 22:43.25 | itchi | beardy: It's an Compaq Armada 1750 laptop, somethings bugy :-/ |
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| 22:43.38 | beardy | itchi: I see. |
| 22:44.25 | slew | hi. im using etch. i want to install nvidia-glx but i get this error: Package nvidia-kernel-source has no installation candidate. anyone know where i can find this package? |
| 22:45.02 | itchi | slew: You need to get these of the sid version :-/ These of the Etch are remove at this moment :-/ |
| 22:45.21 | slew | itchi, how do i do that? |
| 22:46.02 | itchi | beardy & Eulex Ice cold beer to you, and thanks for the help :-) |
| 22:46.35 | itchi | slew: Get the deb file manually, look on the web repo, wget that package, then install it with dpkg -i package |
| 22:46.44 | Eulex | itchi, eh? you don't have to thank me, I just asked you to clarify what you meant. |
| 22:47.09 | itchi | Wait; i move that big external fan :-) |
| 22:48.07 | enouf | marsje: apologies ... been busy -- excellent news! thanks for the update |
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| 22:48.58 | Drakeson | what is the channel for questions about unstable? |
| 22:49.09 | itchi | Right the temp solution are working :-p |
| 22:49.24 | enouf | marsje: kinda like 'msconfig' in win98 -- but screw winblows chunks ;-) |
| 22:49.38 | itchi | Guys, not buy an old Compaq Armada 1750 ;-) |
| 22:49.40 | azeem | Drakeson: you can try here, there is no other AFAIK |
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| 22:50.07 | itchi | But was an donation; so i not complain :-) |
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| 22:51.02 | Drakeson | is it only me who gets a b0rked antialiasing/hinting for qt3 apps? |
| 22:51.14 | Drakeson | gtk apps look fine |
| 22:51.19 | Drakeson | and other apps |
| 22:51.48 | deconvolution | hi, i am using bittornado to an image. Can I resote the session after reboot my computer ? |
| 22:51.58 | p0t | how do i restart my sound device |
| 22:52.13 | CHodapp | okay, dkpg's hints really didn't tell me anything . . . and the manpage isn't making sense to me... what is the "base of the Debian distribution" for a random unofficial directory? |
| 22:52.18 | Hoxzer | * |
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| 22:53.47 | CHodapp | the manpage gives an example using unstable/binary-$(ARCH)/ for the distribution . . . is this a directory, or just some name? |
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| 22:53.56 | keram | hello |
| 22:53.58 | keram | i'm using xfce4 |
| 22:54.05 | keram | and my system time is wayy off |
| 22:54.07 | keram | how can i change it |
| 22:54.09 | crazy_penguin | night all! sleep well! |
| 22:54.09 | azeem | CHodapp: is the Packages.gz in the same dir as all the .debs? |
| 22:54.24 | CHodapp | azeem, no, it's one directory below |
| 22:54.31 | azeem | keram: way off by exactly some hours? |
| 22:54.41 | azeem | CHodapp: uff, no idea then |
| 22:54.51 | keram | 6 |
| 22:54.55 | keram | its +6 |
| 22:54.56 | azeem | CHodapp: it really depends on the individual repostory structure |
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| 22:55.01 | ttyfscker | anybody in here running the 2.6.17 kernel and got vmware working with it? |
| 22:55.03 | azeem | keram: where are you located? |
| 22:55.19 | CHodapp | azeem, the manpage just seems to be amazing ambiguous about what the parameters mean |
| 22:55.27 | keram | casli |
| 22:55.29 | keram | california |
| 22:55.31 | keram | pacific |
| 22:55.57 | azeem | keram: did you try running tzconfig |
| 22:55.58 | azeem | ? |
| 22:56.04 | keram | no.. |
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| 22:56.20 | keram | tzconfig command not found |
| 22:56.38 | CHodapp | azeem, ok, I think I figured it out by having apt-get print out all the URIs it was using |
| 22:56.57 | azeem | keram: which version of Ubuntu are you using? |
| 22:57.04 | keram | etch |
| 22:57.15 | azeem | keram: did you run it as root? |
| 22:57.21 | keram | ah no i did not |
| 22:57.25 | azeem | ah :) |
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| 22:57.35 | keram | Your current time zone is set to US/Pacific |
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| 22:57.55 | azeem | sounds right |
| 22:58.02 | azeem | keram: run `hwclock' as root |
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| 22:58.16 | keram | oh now its working |
| 22:58.23 | keram | well it says its working |
| 22:58.32 | keram | but the xfce4 display panel says its 10:58 PM |
| 22:58.36 | azeem | keram: and check /etc/default/rcS for the UTC options, though that doesn't explain the +6 I guess (California should be more?) |
| 22:58.53 | azeem | 10:58 PM is UTC |
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| 22:59.10 | azeem | so check /etc/default/rcS |
| 22:59.36 | keram | # Set UTC=yes if your system clock is set to UTC (GMT), and UTC=no if not. |
| 22:59.36 | keram | UTC=no |
| 22:59.55 | azeem | so what does hwclock say? |
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| 23:00.07 | keram | Wed 26 Jul 2006 04:00:19 PM PDT -0.709639 seconds |
| 23:00.21 | keram | maybe i just need a reboot? |
| 23:00.26 | azeem | is that your local time? |
| 23:00.29 | keram | yeah |
| 23:00.37 | azeem | and what does date say? |
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| 23:00.43 | keram | 26 |
| 23:00.55 | keram | and i think today is the 26th |
| 23:01.02 | azeem | eh, date returns a time as well here |
| 23:01.13 | keram | ohh |
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| 23:01.16 | keram | Wed Jul 26 16:01:26 PDT 2006 |
| 23:01.17 | azeem | it's till the 26th in UTC |
| 23:01.18 | keram | thats date |
| 23:01.42 | keram | that seems right |
| 23:02.00 | azeem | so restart xfce if it doesn't change on itself |
| 23:02.08 | keram | okay i'm restarting |
| 23:02.09 | keram | brb |
| 23:02.20 | keram | oh wow |
| 23:02.23 | keram | i'm an idiot |
| 23:02.31 | keram | i was doing that in a shell that was connected to my other computer |
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| 23:03.24 | keram | UTC is still set to no however |
| 23:03.36 | keram | Wed 26 Jul 2006 11:03:22 PM PDT -0.918109 seconds |
| 23:03.36 | CHodapp | Why does it add 'dist' to the end of all the URIs but mine? |
| 23:03.37 | itchi | keram: lol |
| 23:03.38 | keram | thats hwclock |
| 23:03.44 | keram | Wed Jul 26 23:03:30 PDT 2006 |
| 23:03.45 | keram | thats date |
| 23:03.48 | lunitik | CHodapp: quit that shit! this is a family channel damnit! |
| 23:03.48 | keram | and they are both wrong |
| 23:04.14 | lunitik | CHodapp: they set up an alias... but you didn't? |
| 23:04.46 | keram | Your default time zone is set to 'US/Pacific'. |
| 23:04.46 | keram | Local time is now: Wed Jul 26 23:04:19 PDT 2006. |
| 23:04.46 | keram | Universal Time is now: Thu Jul 27 06:04:19 UTC 2006. |
| 23:04.59 | keram | is that right? |
| 23:05.11 | keram | i think its like way off |
| 23:05.13 | CHodapp | lunitik, I don't know any of these things.... all I know is, if I leave 'dists' off of my URL, it doesn't add it for me when I do 'apt-get update'... and when I add it, 'apt-get update' works but then when I'm getting the actual files 'dists' is in there twice |
| 23:05.27 | keram | what should i do? |
| 23:05.27 | Guerin | yeah |
| 23:05.33 | Guerin | your local time is actually UTC |
| 23:05.41 | Guerin | change it |
| 23:05.43 | keram | no my local time is 4 PM |
| 23:05.45 | keram | how? |
| 23:05.49 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.55 | Guerin | the local time ABOVE |
| 23:06.04 | Guerin | !date |
| 23:06.04 | dpkg | The current date is 2006.07.26 23:06:04 (UTC of course, this is *NIX) |
| 23:06.07 | Guerin | see? |
| 23:06.42 | itchi | keram: Did you use that tzconfig? |
| 23:06.46 | keram | yeah |
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| 23:06.49 | keram | its giving me the wrong stuff |
| 23:07.09 | itchi | keram: Normally it's applied directly, once done |
| 23:07.11 | CHodapp | lunitik, any ideas? |
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| 23:07.30 | keram | this is weird |
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| 23:08.05 | keram | okay |
| 23:08.10 | keram | i installed ntpdate and it fixed it |
| 23:08.11 | keram | :] |
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| 23:08.28 | lunitik | keram: you had ntpdate installed like a week ago? |
| 23:08.32 | ru | hi guys |
| 23:08.38 | ru | i am getting "file size limit exceeded" |
| 23:08.44 | ru | is it an ext3 limitation? |
| 23:08.48 | keram | no it wasnt installed |
| 23:08.49 | keram | lol |
| 23:09.00 | keram | isnt that weird? |
| 23:09.19 | lunitik | keram: I swear you were part of an ntp discussion in here? |
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| 23:09.31 | keram | lol no |
| 23:09.33 | lunitik | guess not *shrug* |
| 23:09.53 | keram | i hate not knowing what time it is lol |
| 23:10.03 | keram | it was killing me yesterday till i figured out it was wrong |
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| 23:12.02 | Yarou | hey guys, i have a problem... dselect doesn't work? i'm using etch beta 2 btw |
| 23:12.29 | Yarou | any dpkg derivative, apt, synaptic, etc... |
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| 23:13.26 | Yarou | hello? |
| 23:13.38 | ru | i have a file size limit on my mouted shared - 2gb |
| 23:13.44 | ru | how do i fix that? |
| 23:13.56 | ru | apparently u can use lfs? |
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| 23:16.24 | infernix | ru, mount -o lfs,...... //server/share /mountpoint |
| 23:16.47 | infernix | if possible though ,with a 2.6 kernel, use mount -t cifs instead of smbfs |
| 23:16.55 | ru | what does lfs do? |
| 23:17.12 | infernix | largefilesize |
| 23:17.16 | ru | aah |
| 23:17.23 | ru | wtf isnt that set by default? |
| 23:17.28 | Yarou | can someone help me? |
| 23:17.38 | infernix | wtf isnt set by default no. |
| 23:17.50 | infernix | in fact, i dont think wtf is a mount option |
| 23:18.00 | itchi | Yarou: It's not clear, re formulate it?? |
| 23:18.09 | infernix | yerou: define "not working" |
| 23:18.10 | Eulex | hmm, anyone know of some software that will convert pdf into a bitmap format (png, jpg, whatever) |
| 23:18.13 | ru | lol |
| 23:18.15 | BankHead | Hello |
| 23:18.15 | callas | Hi |
| 23:18.22 | Yarou | well |
| 23:18.31 | ru | no i meant why dont they set "lfs" by default |
| 23:18.33 | Yarou | when i run dpkg --configure -a |
| 23:18.35 | BankHead | you tell me |
| 23:18.37 | callas | that's a secret |
| 23:18.37 | infernix | Eulex: apt-cache search pdf and check pdf tools for output conversion; i doubt imagemagick can, but you could try |
| 23:18.49 | Eulex | infernix, thank you :) |
| 23:18.55 | Yarou | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0001' near line 1: |
| 23:18.55 | Yarou | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.56 | infernix | Eulex: you could of course take a hard route through printing but try others first |
| 23:19.05 | beardy | Eulex: The GIMP, but one page a time I guess.. |
| 23:19.15 | itchi | Eulex: I not know, but with convert?? |
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| 23:19.25 | Eulex | beardy, doesn't matter. |
| 23:19.36 | Eulex | nice |
| 23:19.37 | Eulex | pstoedit - PostScript and PDF files to editable vector graphics converter |
| 23:19.52 | Eulex | then export from inkscape... |
| 23:20.22 | infernix | Eulex: ah, buying microsoft? |
| 23:20.33 | Yarou | Microl33t |
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| 23:29.38 | freeone3000 | Wha tpackage has 'libclearlooks.so'? |
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| 23:30.05 | Knorrie | freeone3000: you can search at packages.debian.org or with apt-file |
| 23:30.30 | killown | whats the best mirros for apt-get? |
| 23:30.33 | Yarou | i wish my apt would work |
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| 23:30.37 | killown | mirror* |
| 23:31.02 | Knorrie | killown: the nearest? |
| 23:31.50 | killown | Knorrie I cannot get babytrans |
| 23:31.59 | itchi | Which cpu throttling can i use? Any advieces? |
| 23:32.00 | killown | apt-get install babytrans no found |
| 23:32.02 | magyar | which is the most cutting edge release for debian(besides sid)? |
| 23:32.11 | itchi | killown: It's in the non-free or in the marrilat |
| 23:32.12 | Knorrie | etch |
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| 23:32.55 | magyar | Knorrie: :) nice |
| 23:33.09 | Knorrie | magyar: http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 23:33.55 | Guerin | magyar: sid is the cutting edge |
| 23:34.00 | magyar | Knorrie: there is one beyond Sid, even more unstable |
| 23:34.07 | Guerin | magyar: no, there isn't |
| 23:34.10 | magyar | Guerin: now now |
| 23:34.46 | Knorrie | magyar: experimental, but that's not a complete set of packages |
| 23:34.51 | Guerin | magyar: you might be thinking of experimental, which isn't even close to a full archive - it's a few packages which are too insane even for sid |
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| 23:35.05 | Yarou | etch has problems |
| 23:35.10 | Yarou | dpkg doesn't work :( |
| 23:35.38 | Knorrie | Yarou: your systems has problems, dpkg works like a charm on my etch system |
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| 23:41.24 | magyar | Knorrie: so debian is not even testing nor have a "extreme experimental" packages for rc? |
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| 23:41.34 | Guerin | magyar: no. |
| 23:41.46 | stew | !dbugs 378947 |
| 23:41.48 | Guerin | magyar: if you watnt to use rc packages, you presumably have the skills to build them yourself. |
| 23:41.49 | dpkg | #378947:W[ktorrent] ktorrent: KTorrent 2.0rc1 is released; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:03:02 UTC |
| 23:41.54 | stew | magyar: you should monitor that bug^^ |
| 23:42.22 | Guerin | magyar: why would I not? I'm providing correct, rational answers to your questions. |
| 23:42.36 | Knorrie | magyar: ubuntu guys are putting in newer packages like crazy... it's because of the bugs in that newer software why i switched back from ubuntu dapper to debian etch on my desktop |
| 23:42.43 | Guerin | just because they're not the answers you WANT doesn't make them any less real. |
| 23:43.31 | Knorrie | sure... Fetched 15.0MB in 7s (2052kB/s) it's more bandwidth, but it saves me 10 seconds :P |
| 23:43.49 | stew | you're gonna clog the intertubes! |
| 23:44.01 | Knorrie | etch+sid+experimental+marillat+myownrepo |
| 23:44.03 | Guerin | and you took how many seconds to fix it? |
| 23:44.04 | magyar | stew: so there is some pkg's available for rc releases judging by the bug |
| 23:44.08 | Knorrie | Guerin: hehe |
| 23:44.20 | Guerin | still |
| 23:44.21 | xopher | Is there a way to remove packages that you no longer need? Like libs that arent associated to any installed application etc |
| 23:44.25 | stew | magyar: no, that is a bug submitted to the maintainer to say, "there is a new release, please package it" |
| 23:44.28 | abrotman | deborphan |
| 23:44.36 | dondelelcaro | xopher: use aptitude instead |
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| 23:44.48 | Guerin | it's a noble goal to spend 59 seconds hacking together something which will save 60 seconds over the next year |
| 23:44.50 | itchi | xopher: Or use aptitude and not apt-get install |
| 23:44.59 | magyar | bahh |
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| 23:45.08 | xopher | itchi, what do I gain from using aptitude instead of apt-get? |
| 23:45.23 | itchi | xopher: aptitude have a brain |
| 23:45.24 | Guerin | magyar: ah, so you didn't even READ the bugreport? |
| 23:45.42 | xopher | allright |
| 23:45.43 | itchi | xopher: He store some more informations; if you prefer |
| 23:45.47 | xopher | Ill keep that in mind.. |
| 23:45.48 | magyar | Guerin: i figured a bug report = pkg avail |
| 23:45.55 | Guerin | ... |
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| 23:46.21 | itchi | xopher: It's the same way to install and remove stuff with aptitude |
| 23:46.42 | itchi | xopher: Just s/apt/aptitude/ |
| 23:46.49 | xopher | ye, thanks |
| 23:47.20 | magyar | or is it !(easy) |
| 23:47.26 | itchi | magyar: Begin with the '/msg dpkg grounding' ?? |
| 23:47.37 | beardy | !beer itchi |
| 23:47.45 | Knorrie | Guerin: Fetched 359kB in 42s (8532B/s) (my router) ;p |
| 23:47.49 | sussudio | %bear beardy |
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| 23:48.36 | magyar | always rtfm |
| 23:48.37 | itchi | beardy: Eugh, use the !coffee :-) |
| 23:48.38 | magyar | grrr |
| 23:48.51 | stew | !why aptitude is <reply>aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info |
| 23:48.51 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 23:49.20 | itchi | bbbrrr fck laptop |
| 23:49.30 | itchi | Some time it's so delayed :-/ |
| 23:49.42 | Knorrie | magyar: yes.. it's reading and reading and trying and etc etc and rtfm'ing again etc etc that's how everybody learns |
| 23:49.46 | Yarou | i wish dpkg would work |
| 23:49.54 | beardy | !what does sussudio pay you for |
| 23:49.55 | dpkg | often sussudio pays me for a good kick in the kidneys, beardy, but I'm open to suggestions! |
| 23:50.10 | itchi | I do; ssh other_box; screen -x irssi; And some time it's so delayed if i look to my other screen |
| 23:50.27 | beardy | itchi: ungreatful .. human |
| 23:50.41 | Knorrie | ungreatful? |
| 23:50.53 | beardy | grate? |
| 23:50.58 | Knorrie | ah :) |
| 23:51.17 | itchi | Or is it because i do to many screen -x irssi on differents boxes? Actually i see screen on 4 comps :-) |
| 23:52.05 | itchi | I see irssi on 4 boxes at the same time, i mean |
| 23:52.25 | itchi | Next one; put irssi on the TV :-) |
| 23:52.48 | itchi | But there i have no clue for :-/ |
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| 23:53.59 | name | hey |
| 23:54.42 | itchi | hhhmm, if i close some screen irssi session, it goes a bit better it's looks |
| 23:55.06 | beardy | sussudio: Does he only have dpkg's database, or his own stuff aswell? |
| 23:56.21 | sussudio | %status |
| 23:56.21 | badgers | Since Sat Jul 22 11:15:56 2006, there have been 0 modifications, 13 questions, 3 dunnos, 0 morons and 9 commands. I have been awake for 4d 12h 40m 25s this session, and currently reference 36811 factoids. I'm using about 19788 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 197.53/10.62 child 109.41/3.66 |
| 23:56.25 | sussudio | !status |
| 23:56.26 | dpkg | Since Wed Jul 26 19:26:50 2006, there have been 3 modifications, 46 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 22 commands. I have been awake for 4h 29m 35s this session, and currently reference 36819 factoids. I'm using about 14008 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 23.68/1.34 child 0/0 |
| 23:56.32 | sussudio | :-| |
| 23:57.04 | beardy | ~status |
| 23:57.04 | apt | Since Wed Jul 26 23:39:44 2006, there have been 0 modifications, 6 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1 command. I have been awake for 17m 20s this session, and currently reference 111240 factoids. I'm using about 15300 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 59.38/6.36 child 0.03/0.01 |
| 23:57.04 | aptitude | Since Wed Jul 26 19:07:56 2006, there have been 0 modifications, 4 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1 command. I have been awake for 4h 49m 7s this session, and currently reference 35979 factoids. I'm using about 17112 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 6.48/0.49 child 0.03/0.01 |
| 23:57.05 | dpkg | Since Wed Jul 26 19:26:50 2006, there have been 3 modifications, 46 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 22 commands. I have been awake for 4h 30m 13s this session, and currently reference 36819 factoids. I'm using about 14008 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 23.72/1.35 child 0/0 |
| 23:57.05 | ravenbird | Since Fri Jul 21 15:15:08 2006, there have been 0 modifications, 10 questions, 1 dunno, 0 morons and 7 commands. I have been awake for 5d 8h 41m 56s this session, and currently reference 20839 factoids. I'm using about 23688 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1155.39/72 child 0.18/0.75 |
| 23:57.14 | sussudio | ehh. |
| 23:57.15 | beardy | Not my fault! |
| 23:57.16 | stew | oh boy |
| 23:57.22 | beardy | fix it.. |
| 23:57.24 | stew | partially mine |
| 23:57.29 | sussudio | why are 3 bots responding to ~ ? |
| 23:57.34 | sussudio | or 4 |
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| 23:58.10 | stew | aptitude becuase of some wierd hard coded thing for Riker's bot |
| 23:58.14 | beardy | oh, I wonder what treasures lies in apt |
| 23:58.17 | stew | which i thought i had fixed |
| 23:58.32 | itchi | sussudio: It's the reply charachter ... Probably it go fixed right now ;-) |
| 23:58.39 | stew | beardy: apt is in more channels and probably has many more channel specific factoids |
| 23:58.51 | killown | apt-get install mplayer no found package |
| 23:58.57 | sussudio | so, apt is just fucked up. |
| 23:58.58 | stew | killown: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 23:58.59 | killown | why? |
| 23:59.16 | dondelelcaro | apt_: wantnick |
| 23:59.27 | beardy | stew: Yeah. But I still wonder what treasures there might be ;) |
| 23:59.45 | dondelelcaro | it's because apt_ has the wrong nick |
| 23:59.59 | stew | oh |
