| 00:00.51 | tuv | I just installed anjuta, and when trying to start it, it showed the message "The Application "anjuta" has quit unexpectedly." !! |
| 00:00.58 | unfo | tuv: use emacs :) |
| 00:01.28 | l3m | tuv: use kdevelop ;) |
| 00:01.35 | unfo | tuv: i almost forgot: M-x global-font-lock-mode gives you color. |
| 00:01.37 | Xenguy | use vim |
| 00:01.38 | tuv | unfo: did you have anything to do with this happining? you made your point you know?! :) |
| 00:01.40 | Xenguy | :P |
| 00:01.45 | Hessophanes | Pollywog: You'll need kernel-builtin support (or the modules) for: scsi, sd (SCSI disk driver), usbcore, usb-storage, and a driver for the USB controller that is installed on your board (UHCI or OHCI). |
| 00:01.55 | unfo | tuv: yes, i used my leet skillz to haxxor your box. |
| 00:02.01 | unfo | :) |
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| 00:02.11 | Pollywog | Hessophanes: thanks |
| 00:02.33 | skopel | I'm trying to get x running, having trouble with nvidia 6600 card.. last log entry is "(WW) system lacks support for changing MTRRs" do I need to recompile the kernel with MTRR? any help would be appreciated, thanks |
| 00:02.46 | Pollywog | I wonder why those things do not get installed by default ;) |
| 00:03.15 | Terminus | skopel: don't the packaged kernel images support MTRR by default? |
| 00:03.27 | Pollywog | It must be that this laptop is so old |
| 00:03.40 | Hessophanes | Pollywog: Maybe the modules are already present, but not loaded... :) |
| 00:03.41 | unfo | Pollywog: no |
| 00:04.14 | Pollywog | I will play with it for a while thanks folks :) |
| 00:04.21 | matthew | Ok, I installed alsa and ran alsaconf and everything went well, but how do i turn up the volume? everything in Kmix looks ok |
| 00:05.00 | unfo | matthew: turn up Master, Headphone, and PCM. |
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| 00:08.06 | powder | ufno: they are all up |
| 00:08.39 | unfo | powder: what brand of machine are you on? |
| 00:08.40 | Pollywog | verlassend? Must be some sort of joke |
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| 00:09.09 | powder | unfo: it's custom... got a SB Audigy 2 |
| 00:09.41 | unfo | powder: does it have integrated 10-dollar audio too? |
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| 00:10.23 | powder | unfo: ? |
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| 00:11.01 | powder | ufno: you mean integrated in the motherboard? |
| 00:11.06 | unfo | yep |
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| 00:11.15 | powder | i do but it's disabled in bios |
| 00:11.33 | unfo | hmmm. |
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| 00:12.12 | unfo | powder: i assume you ran alsaconf? |
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| 00:12.44 | powder | unfo: yep. if i play an mp3 in xmms, it plays but i can't hear anything |
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| 00:12.56 | unfo | dmesg |
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| 00:13.34 | madd_matt | powder: youre unmuted and speakers are plugged into right output on soundcard? |
| 00:13.39 | loggygreg | powder: do you have selected the alsa output plugin in xmms ? |
| 00:14.14 | tuv | is this a known problem with anjuta? PS. I'm installing kdevelop right now |
| 00:14.21 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 00:14.21 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 00:14.23 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 00:14.23 | dpkg | <Mandork_> how does pron work anyways ? |
| 00:14.31 | Stevie | lol |
| 00:14.40 | powder | madd_matt: yep |
| 00:14.47 | Stevie | less /usr/src/pron.c |
| 00:14.52 | powder | loggygreg: just tried it, no dice :( |
| 00:15.07 | lightcap | is there any way to get a deb of the kernel source for 2.6.15 in sarge? |
| 00:15.23 | tarzeau | lightcap: kmuto installer has one |
| 00:15.30 | Stevie | lightcap: certainly |
| 00:15.34 | tarzeau | lightcap: you can make your own using kernel-package |
| 00:15.45 | rolo | what ftp program shoud i use to synchronize with a windows site ? |
| 00:15.47 | tarzeau | lightcap: it's really easy, i've got some notes on that at www.linuks.mine.nu/make-kpkg/ for myself |
| 00:15.53 | tarzeau | rolo: lftp, or any, really |
| 00:15.59 | lightcap | tarzeau: but doesnt debian add a bunch of patches? |
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| 00:16.07 | brainsik | !backports.org |
| 00:16.07 | dpkg | backports.org is probably an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. |
| 00:16.10 | tarzeau | lightcap: not that i know |
| 00:16.13 | tuv | rolo: wget is a good one, too |
| 00:16.16 | tarzeau | lightcap: they just do initrd kernels... |
| 00:16.26 | tarzeau | lightcap: want my .config of 2.6.15.6? |
| 00:16.37 | lightcap | sure |
| 00:16.46 | unfo | tuv: Why the bias vs. emacs? :) |
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| 00:16.49 | lightcap | matt@thekerns.net |
| 00:16.52 | tarzeau | let me start the e2fs reader.exe on my sexy windows xp |
| 00:16.59 | madd_matt | i'm installing debian and wondering, how stable is "testing". Like, am i risking occasional instablility, or crashing and burning? |
| 00:17.05 | unfo | madd_matt: no |
| 00:17.11 | unfo | madd_matt: stable is for servers. |
| 00:17.40 | Stevie | lightcap: you don't need to bother |
| 00:17.51 | tuv | unfo: not really, it's just that i have an idea about how emacs look like and how to deal with it, but i don't have a clue about the other ides, so i thought i give them a try before i decide on one |
| 00:17.51 | skopel | getting message "(WW) system lacks support for changing MTRRs" while startx.. any ideas would be appreciated, thanks |
| 00:18.01 | Stevie | I'm running Debian. I'm running Debian inside a UML. The UML kernel was built from source on www.kernel.org |
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| 00:18.14 | skopel | I'm trying to get x running, having trouble with nvidia 6600 card.. last log entry is "(WW) system lacks support for changing MTRRs" do I need to recompile the kernel with MTRR? any help would be appreciated, thanks |
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| 00:18.37 | unfo | tuv: emacs is FAR more powerful and customizable. it's harder to learn though. |
| 00:18.53 | ziky82 | c'è qualcuno italiano che mi puo aiutare? |
| 00:18.54 | pipeline | skopel: Well, first off, you shouldn't have been fooling with recompiling the kernel. |
| 00:18.55 | unfo | skopel: are you using closed-source drivers? |
| 00:18.56 | unfo | !it |
| 00:18.57 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 00:19.04 | tarzeau | lightcap: sent. got it? |
| 00:19.28 | thingfish | gawd, italian is so sexy to look at. |
| 00:19.35 | beardy | skopel: Does X start? |
| 00:19.52 | tarzeau | thingfish: why? |
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| 00:20.13 | tarzeau | thingfish: turns me so off, when i hear it |
| 00:20.15 | thingfish | tarzeau: I don't care to be rational right now. |
| 00:20.21 | tarzeau | thingfish: i like french, and swiss german |
| 00:20.25 | thingfish | pure aesthetics. |
| 00:20.32 | tarzeau | thingfish: you know swiss german is so sexy |
| 00:20.38 | thingfish | french is sweet, definitely, tarzeau. |
| 00:20.38 | tarzeau | thingfish: check out www.meinbild.ch |
| 00:20.48 | thingfish | tarzeau: what about russian? |
| 00:20.52 | thingfish | it's pretty sexy too. |
| 00:20.55 | tarzeau | thingfish: i don't know |
| 00:21.24 | tarzeau | thingfish: no language but moaning's nice too |
| 00:21.27 | lightcap | tarzeau: yeah thanks |
| 00:21.30 | thingfish | wait until you hear a beautiful blonde russian whispering sweet nothings to you in her native language. |
| 00:21.35 | tarzeau | thingfish: or noises like a dog from a woman |
| 00:21.37 | thingfish | hehe tarzeau |
| 00:21.42 | thingfish | you nasty |
| 00:21.45 | tarzeau | thingfish: there's so plenty much. hehehe |
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| 00:23.16 | tarzeau | thingfish: would yours do it for you? |
| 00:23.35 | tarzeau | someone knows abrotmans email address? |
| 00:23.39 | thingfish | tarzeau: my what? |
| 00:23.43 | tarzeau | thingfish: gf |
| 00:23.53 | thingfish | tarzeau: oh, I don't have a gf. I have a bf. |
| 00:24.04 | tarzeau | thingfish: and you're a boy yourself? |
| 00:24.05 | thingfish | a hubby, really. 11years. |
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| 00:24.08 | thingfish | yeppers. |
| 00:24.16 | tarzeau | huh hm |
| 00:24.20 | skopel | I didn't recompile, I'm using the driver named nvidia that came with the video card |
| 00:24.32 | ScottMac | does anyone know if there is an apache bench package? I searched using apt-cache but couldn't see any |
| 00:24.40 | beardy | tarzeau: Try the memoserv, if only to see if it works? |
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| 00:24.52 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:25.02 | tarzeau | beardy: i wish everybody used their irc client in gnu screen |
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| 00:25.25 | skopel | x doesn't start .. I get a black screen with blinking cursor nothing else |
| 00:25.36 | tarzeau | beardy: it works, i've gotten several messages using it |
| 00:25.38 | bcc | hi guys, are there any command-line utils that could strip silent parts out of a wav file? |
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| 00:26.43 | ScottMac | ah found apache bench its in apache2-utils |
| 00:26.52 | thingfish | I need an amp. |
| 00:27.00 | dooglus | bcc: "tr -d \\000"? |
| 00:27.00 | unfo | thingfish: i need a life |
| 00:27.01 | thingfish | this music is just not loud enough. |
| 00:27.09 | thingfish | unfo: you and me both. |
| 00:27.15 | thingfish | until then... |
| 00:27.18 | thingfish | !beer unfo |
| 00:27.19 | beardy | tarzeau: Ok, he seems to allow memos, so you can at least reach him that way. Yeah, screen is great. |
| 00:27.23 | unfo | !beer thingfish |
| 00:27.30 | bcc | dooglus: hmm, interesting idea |
| 00:27.41 | tarzeau | beardy: i'd rather throw some item from my desk at his desk than writing that bum a memo |
| 00:27.45 | thingfish | sorry, unfo, can't drink beer tonight. already started on the bourbon. |
| 00:27.47 | tarzeau | his head |
| 00:27.51 | bcc | dooglus: but it's not completely silent, there is background noice and that kind of stuff |
| 00:27.54 | unfo | !bourbon thingfish |
| 00:27.56 | tarzeau | beardy: he's so lazy |
| 00:27.59 | thingfish | I wish. |
| 00:28.01 | rolo | i am having trouble ftp connecting to a windows server from my debian ... where would be best place to ask ? |
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| 00:28.07 | bcc | noise |
| 00:28.09 | tarzeau | rolo: run a sniffer |
| 00:28.17 | unfo | rolo: what's the error message? |
| 00:28.18 | thingfish | !bourbon |
| 00:28.18 | dpkg | i guess bourbon is THE SHIT.. Damn, it's THe drink ;-) |
| 00:28.19 | tarzeau | rolo: what ftp server? ip address? username/password? |
| 00:28.19 | dooglus | bcc: I see. I don't know what to suggest then, sorry. |
| 00:28.20 | beardy | tarzeau: Oh, heh, what has he done/not done? |
| 00:28.33 | bcc | dooglus: it's cool. thanks |
| 00:28.35 | tarzeau | beardy: he has never packaged software for debian |
| 00:28.52 | tarzeau | beardy: and he doesn't even test software that i package |
| 00:29.14 | tarzeau | beardy: but he's the number one on debstats, see this: |
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| 00:29.16 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 00:29.16 | dpkg | debstats is, like, managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 00:29.20 | rolo | unfo: it kind of connects bust just freezes when trying to get information about it |
| 00:29.28 | rolo | such as a "ls" or anything |
| 00:29.35 | tarzeau | i mean 5187 lines ... |
| 00:29.35 | beardy | tarzeau: He probably has no time, if you check the stats. |
| 00:29.56 | unfo | rolo: what ftp server are you using on windows? |
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| 00:30.09 | sadrul | adil: ping |
| 00:30.18 | tarzeau | beardy: and the next on the list, dopesn't even half of what abrotman did on irc |
| 00:30.19 | rolo | unfo: its iis default ftp server |
| 00:30.29 | beardy | tarzeau: What have you packaged? |
| 00:30.38 | unfo | rolo: try ftp'ing in from a windows machine |
| 00:30.46 | rolo | i can ftping from a windows |
| 00:30.48 | tarzeau | beardy: lately? brutalchess and briquolo (both 3d opengl games) |
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| 00:30.52 | rolo | but not from this debian |
| 00:30.56 | unfo | rolo: from another linux box? |
| 00:30.56 | dooglus | debian seems to not have any access control on the X server by default - is that true? |
| 00:30.56 | tarzeau | beardy: working on dd2 and some other junk |
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| 00:31.01 | tarzeau | beardy: what have you packaged? |
| 00:31.07 | rolo | no i cant from a linux |
| 00:31.11 | beardy | tarzeau: nothing |
| 00:31.17 | rolo | its first time i try from a linux |
| 00:31.20 | beardy | tarzeau: Are you a DD? |
| 00:31.29 | tarzeau | beardy: no , i'm a debian maintainer |
| 00:31.31 | unfo | rolo: do you have a Linux liveCD hanging around? |
| 00:31.39 | rolo | no |
| 00:31.42 | rolo | why ? |
| 00:31.53 | Supaplex | dooglus: what kind of access control are you looking for? tcp is disabled per default, and you'd have to know the authentication key to connect locally. |
| 00:32.19 | unfo | rolo: you want to see if IIS is borked, or if Linux ftp is. |
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| 00:32.33 | dooglus | Supaplex: I can ssh to my box, set DISPLAY, and straight away connect to my display. I would expect to have to have the auth key before it would let me connect. |
| 00:32.34 | Supaplex | dooglus: xhost is a bad idea anyway, as is tcp. That's what ssh -X was designed for... |
| 00:32.42 | rolo | unfo: borked ??? whats that ? |
| 00:32.49 | unfo | rolo: means messed up. |
| 00:32.55 | beardy | tarzeau: But I've been thinking about trying to get a bit more involved, perhaps, try to help out fixing some small easy stuff and so, we'll see. |
| 00:32.55 | dooglus | Supaplex: agreed. but it doesn't seem to need the auth key either. |
| 00:33.04 | unfo | !bork |
| 00:33.04 | dpkg | well, bork is to sexor as in "bork bjork", lart to death, or a nicer curse word, or the Swedish Chef's favorite word, or broke |
| 00:33.14 | unfo | haha |
| 00:33.29 | Hessophanes | dooglus: How did you start your X server? |
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| 00:33.36 | dooglus | Hessophanes: from gdm |
| 00:33.37 | tarzeau | beardy: help port software to #gnu-kbsd (debian gnu/kfreebsd)? |
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| 00:33.45 | rolo | unfo : but i can ftp to the windows server from another windows machine .... from different windows machines .... but i cant from a linux |
| 00:33.52 | tarzeau | beardy: or package also software. isn't there nothing that you build manually from source? |
| 00:34.01 | rolo | i beleive its because of a misconfiguration i am doing in this machine |
| 00:34.10 | rolo | or maybe i am trying with a wrong client |
| 00:34.11 | tarzeau | beardy: translations? documentation? writing manualpages? |
| 00:34.22 | tarzeau | beardy: got popularity-contest installed? |
| 00:34.25 | dooglus | Hessophanes: according to ps: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -dpi 96 -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xaut |
| 00:34.28 | dooglus | h -nolisten tcp vt7 |
| 00:34.29 | unfo | rolo: as root try: apt-get install lftp |
| 00:34.35 | rolo | a client which doesnt support a certain encryption ... or a certain mode ?? |
| 00:34.36 | Hessophanes | dooglus: gdm should have created an auth key. But XAUTHORITY defaults to ~/.Xauthority, so if you've logged into a graphical session, and then ssh into your account, the authkey will be found without you specifying it. |
| 00:34.39 | unfo | rolo: then, not as root, try lftp to ftp in. |
| 00:34.47 | rolo | unfo: i did already |
| 00:34.56 | beardy | tarzeau: Not at the moment. Yes, I've thought about perhaps start with writing some docs and similar things. Yep, got it installed, your backport version. |
| 00:35.03 | unfo | rolo: can I try ftp'ing in? |
| 00:35.05 | rolo | unfo: that was how i was trying |
| 00:35.18 | rolo | unfo: hmmm nope sorry |
| 00:35.24 | dooglus | Hessophanes: is that why it's working, because .Xauthority exists? I don't have any env. var. set pointing to ~/.Xauthortity |
| 00:35.24 | tarzeau | beardy: wait wait, know gnustep? |
| 00:35.31 | tarzeau | beardy: yay :) good stuff |
| 00:35.42 | tarzeau | beardy: play any games? |
| 00:35.46 | tarzeau | unfo: teh magic! |
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| 00:35.54 | Hessophanes | dooglus: Yes, if you have none, X programs will look whether ~/.Xauthority exists (IIRC). Try setting XAUTHORITY to some bogus value, and try again. ;) |
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| 00:36.02 | tarzeau | unfo: ever looked at it from the user view or developer? |
| 00:36.05 | beardy | tarzeau: No. Not any deeper than I like wmaker, heh. |
| 00:36.13 | tarzeau | unfo: it's so sexy, no matter how you look at it |
| 00:36.28 | tarzeau | beardy: try timemon.app and volumemanager.app, just beautiful, ain't they? |
| 00:36.37 | tarzeau | terminal.app is my favourite |
| 00:36.44 | unfo | rolo: try channel #tcpip or better yet try googling for: iis ftp linux crash|hang |
| 00:36.49 | tarzeau | and textedit.app! |
| 00:36.56 | rolo | k cool ty unfo |
| 00:36.56 | dooglus | Hessophanes: that's it. "XAUTHORITY= DISPLAY=:0 xclock" fails, due to access control. |
| 00:36.58 | beardy | beardy: Yeah, I play some games, on the evil platform aswell though. |
| 00:37.01 | beardy | bah |
| 00:37.06 | Hessophanes | dooglus: Ah. :) |
| 00:37.07 | tarzeau | beardy: which games? |
| 00:37.08 | beardy | tarzeau: ^^^ |
| 00:37.11 | mileskeaton | Hey guys - wondering if I could ask your quick advice. |
| 00:37.15 | mileskeaton | I'm thinking of switching over to Debian for my day-to-day development box (laptop) that's running FreeBSD now. |
| 00:37.17 | tarzeau | beardy: i love some playstation games |
| 00:37.21 | mileskeaton | I'm tempted to go to Ubuntu, but my laptop is not very strong, not much RAM, and I'd rather keep the installed stuff to a minimum. |
| 00:37.28 | tarzeau | mileskeaton: wanna try debian gnu/kfreebsd ? #gnu-kbsd |
| 00:37.28 | mileskeaton | Just running xorg, icewm, terminal, kmail, kate, firefox, and acrobat with anti-aliased truetype fonts. Not much else. |
| 00:37.34 | mileskeaton | Since I don't need the full-blown grandma-pleasing pretty desktop, what would you recommend? |
| 00:37.37 | tarzeau | mileskeaton: you'll have the same kernel as before and apt-get |
| 00:37.39 | mileskeaton | Should I dive into Ubuntu anyway, and just not use that other stuff? |
| 00:37.44 | mileskeaton | Or is it pretty easy to turn a barebones Debian install into a basic usable (and nice-on-the-eyes) desktop? |
| 00:37.46 | unfo | tarzeau: user view. i dont know much about it though. |
| 00:37.50 | dooglus | Hessophanes: I'm surprised. ubuntu doesn't allow a connection unless XAUTHORITY is explicitly set to ~/.Xauthority. |
| 00:37.52 | rolo | i got another question |
| 00:38.06 | rolo | i just downloaded and installed this debian distro of sarge |
| 00:38.14 | rolo | but it came with kernelt 2.4 |
| 00:38.16 | tarzeau | mileskeaton: apt-get install x-window-system-core menu |
| 00:38.17 | tuv | does kdevelop allow me to find the declaration/implementation of a variable/method in the code directly? |
| 00:38.21 | dooglus | mileskeaton: ubuntu doesn't force you to install anything more than debian does |
| 00:38.23 | rolo | aint that too old ? |
| 00:38.37 | mileskeaton | dooglus: what's the advantage of Ubuntu over Debian, then? |
| 00:38.42 | Hessophanes | dooglus: Hm, didn't know that - maybe ubuntu is using different compile-time options... though I doubt that. |
| 00:38.44 | unfo | rolo: it's fine. |
| 00:38.45 | dooglus | mileskeaton: none that I can see |
| 00:38.46 | mileskeaton | Since it's just a programming laptop, I'd stay with apt-get unstable |
| 00:39.03 | beardy | tarzeau: Well, a bunch. I play ET some times. (Enemy Territory), and other, mainstream newer games, and I love console emulation, like NES, SNES, and arcade and so on. |
| 00:39.20 | tarzeau | beardy: neat |
| 00:39.26 | mileskeaton | tarzeau: x-window-system-core menu? where can I find out more about that? |
| 00:39.36 | tarzeau | beardy: i never managed to finish yoshi's island... |
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| 00:39.40 | unfo | mileskeaton: x-window-system-core is X |
| 00:39.41 | dooglus | mileskeaton: I guess the main advantage (if you see it as an advantage) is that they freeze and release (almost) every 6 months |
| 00:39.41 | tarzeau | mileskeaton: just run that command |
| 00:39.43 | beardy | tarzeau: slashem/nethack is fun too, I'm not that good though |
| 00:39.47 | unfo | menu is menu(1) |
| 00:39.51 | kyncani | mileskeaton: ubuntu has a fixed release cycle (6 months) |
| 00:39.53 | tarzeau | beardy: try mazeofgalious, great rpg! |
| 00:39.55 | unfo | beardy: ask your local LUG for help. |
| 00:40.01 | tarzeau | beardy: how far do you get in #nethack ? |
| 00:40.41 | mileskeaton | is there any point to the release cycle if I'm living in apt-get unstable land? |
| 00:40.43 | Tchiak | hmm |
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| 00:40.57 | mileskeaton | (always needing to use the newest release of MySQL / PostgreSQL / Ruby, etc) |
| 00:41.09 | dooglus | mileskeaton: if you're using unstable then ubuntu is probably a step backwards |
| 00:41.15 | kyncani | mileskeaton: well, with the fixed release cycle, you don't have to use unstable, and that's the point |
| 00:41.26 | mileskeaton | AHA! Ok. I'm catching on. |
| 00:41.33 | dooglus | mileskeaton: 'cos they only update from sid twice a year |
| 00:41.52 | tuv | kyncani, mileskeaton: ubuntu is a step backwards even compared to testing |
| 00:41.56 | mileskeaton | So - the advantages of Ubuntu over a regular plain Debian install are few, for my kind of work? |
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| 00:42.14 | beardy | tarzeau: heh, don't think I've been deeper than level 10-12 and about level 10 in experience level, how far do you get? |
| 00:42.24 | kyncani | tuv: one year ago, testing did not even have security updates |
| 00:42.34 | mileskeaton | And - sorry just to be clear : "apt-get unstable" stuff still basically WORKS, though, right? |
| 00:42.38 | tarzeau | beardy: i've ascended ;) |
| 00:42.39 | dooglus | beardy: I used to play far too much. I ascended quite a few times |
| 00:42.46 | tuv | kyncani, few years ago, ubuntu didn't exist |
| 00:42.50 | beardy | tarzeau: :) |
| 00:42.59 | mileskeaton | They don't even put it into apt-get stuff unless it's generally working, for most common use? |
| 00:43.00 | kyncani | tuv: created one year ago |
| 00:43.04 | tarzeau | beardy: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/nethack/ascend/ |
| 00:43.29 | Hessophanes | mileskeaton: Unstable usually just works, yes. |
| 00:43.51 | tarzeau | beardy: i was so good with walks, but my first was a female wizard... heh |
| 00:43.59 | mileskeaton | tarzeau, tuv, dooglus, kyncani - THANKS. I appreciate it. Very helpful. |
| 00:44.16 | mileskeaton | Off to bittorrent some ISOs, then. |
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| 00:45.27 | ResPiDeR | I know this is annoying, sorry, but is there any prediction of when gnome 2.14 is going to be avaiable in etch? based in previous versions, dunno.. |
| 00:45.37 | litage | where can i find information about the mod_log_config_ssl module? it's not in the usual module location (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_log_config_ssl.html) |
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| 00:45.58 | kyncani | !wir |
| 00:45.58 | dpkg | somebody said wir was When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
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| 00:47.36 | Teolupus | Hello, I'll need a help here to (re)compile kernel 2.6.8 on Debian Sarge. First I had a problem whith the default kernel: at boot it showed me a thousand of messages "devfs_mk_dir: invalide argment...some stuf... could not append to parent for / disc". (BTW: I think is important to say that I'm using MD Raid and LVM on everything except SWAP and /boot) |
| 00:47.36 | Teolupus | I saw someware that this error messages are due devfs which could not "see" the / filesystem over the MD + LVM. At the same place they said that if I recompile my kernel without devfs the messages are gone. So I did it, but now when booting I get the message: "modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.8/modules.dep: no such file or directory;" ...... What am I missing? |
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| 00:49.37 | hax | any keychain users here? |
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| 00:50.05 | hax | i have keychain running, but it still asks me for the key password every time i ssh to anything |
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| 00:52.44 | _JohnFlux | does anyone else leave their machine on at night |
| 00:52.53 | _JohnFlux | because otherwise they can't sleep |
| 00:52.59 | _JohnFlux | it's too...quiet |
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| 00:54.44 | rainman | hello?? |
| 00:54.49 | tuv | does kdevelop allow me to find the declaration/implementation of a variable/method in the code directly? |
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| 00:56.36 | lordnazgul | when i ssh into a machine is there any way to lock the terminal so that i can leave it unattended yet still have my tunnelled ports go through? |
| 00:57.26 | EdLin | lordnazgul, use screen |
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| 01:00.54 | fladd | hi there, does anyone know how i can remove dead entries from my /usr/share/info/dir file? |
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| 01:02.31 | rainman | man getting tired of a known problem in debian with the cdrom and usb-keyboard not recognized at install on SPARC Sun Blade machine..any helppp?? |
| 01:02.32 | lordnazgul | edlin- that doesnt seem to do what i want it to. ideally i would like to ssh into my computer from a remote location, tunnelling a port or two over at the same time, and then lock the ssh terminal window so that i can leave that unattended, but still connected. thus securing the terminal, but keeping access to the tunnelled ports |
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| 01:04.34 | lightcap | I just upgraded from 2.4.x to 2.6.x kernels and ssh is no longer accepting connection...any idea why? it just returns with Connection Closed by xx.xx.xx.xx |
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| 01:05.10 | navarr | I just ran an update and such, and installed windowmaker, and now im getting "/etc/X11/X is not executable" when my computer loads up, can someone help pls? |
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| 01:05.46 | fas3r | hi all |
| 01:05.52 | fas3r | anybody use phpslash ? |
| 01:06.14 | fas3r | it's just for know if phpslash interprete php ? |
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| 01:07.48 | fas3r | yes |
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| 01:08.01 | navarr | nobody that can help anybody. |
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| 01:10.00 | lightcap | I don't know if this is it or not but: debug1: Miscellaneous failure |
| 01:10.00 | lightcap | No credentials cache found |
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| 01:10.59 | g200x | hello is anybody there?. |
| 01:11.26 | tarzeau | yes? |
| 01:11.28 | popearz | hi 200 |
| 01:11.32 | bucky | !anyone |
| 01:11.32 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 01:12.24 | lightcap | so wierd...ssh -v reports debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive right before the server closes the connection without asking for my password |
| 01:12.46 | bkudria | i'm trying to compile 2.6.15.6 with make-kpkg on sid, and i get a different compile error every time i try...here is an example: http://pastebin.com/606624 How do I fix it? |
| 01:12.47 | bucky | lightcap: all that from just upgrading your kernel? |
| 01:12.53 | lightcap | I guess :) |
| 01:13.02 | lightcap | that's all I changed... |
| 01:13.10 | bucky | lightcap: how did you upgrade your kernel? |
| 01:13.17 | bkudria | lightcap, aah, i had that error before... |
| 01:13.18 | lightcap | bucky: it's a uml kernel |
| 01:13.28 | bkudria | lightcap, it is adebian ssh bug |
| 01:13.39 | lightcap | bkudria: is there a fix? |
| 01:13.59 | bkudria | lightcap, the official fix is to make sure /etc/environment exists.... |
| 01:14.04 | popearz | how do you find out what version or versions of a particular package you have on your system? |
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| 01:14.33 | TraceGreen | hello, fsck always scan my partition when boot up, how can i close it or delay its run? |
| 01:14.41 | bkudria | lightcap, try that, but it didn't work for me...i downgraded ssh, and it went away at the next upgrade |
| 01:15.01 | lightcap | bkudria: just an empty /etc/environment file? |
| 01:15.16 | g200x | hello. i've been having a big problem with sarge an i think it's xfree. I installed the system (kernel 2.4.27, xfree86-4.3.0) in a mendocino 433 with 184 Ram. The problem is that kde and gnome hangs temselves |
| 01:16.07 | bkudria | lightcap, i guess...like i said, it didn't help me |
| 01:16.10 | bkudria | lightcap, but try it |
| 01:16.19 | bkudria | lightcap, mine is currently empty |
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| 01:16.58 | lightcap | nope didn't fix it |
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| 01:17.19 | bkudria | what version of ssh do you have installed? |
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| 01:18.01 | bkudria | (dpkg -l ssh) |
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| 01:18.45 | lightcap | 3.8.1p1-8.sarg |
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| 01:19.19 | lightcap | tried removing it and purging, and reinstalling but that didn't help either |
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| 01:19.46 | g200x | i cannot do anything without having a hanging. The other distris worked fine in my pc. Should i try to upgrade the xfree?. & if i upgrade it, does it affect any other libs in my system? > Excuse me if you dont understand me. i barely speak english. |
| 01:19.58 | Bogaurd | does anybody know of an application or even a perl scrip using LWP that will tunnel SSH over a HTTP proxy requiring DIGEST authentication? I found one called connect-tunnel that uses LWP, but the authentication doesnt seem to work... |
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| 01:20.58 | lightcap | bkudria: do you have a bug number? |
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| 01:21.07 | bkudria | lightcap, i have 4.2...but i don't know how to help you |
| 01:21.19 | lilo | are we getting spambots? not seeing them |
| 01:21.20 | bkudria | lightcap, i suggest downgrading |
| 01:21.26 | popearz | is there an easy way to get versions of packages installed on a particular server? |
| 01:21.27 | bkudria | lightcap, no, but let me search |
| 01:21.30 | lightcap | downgrading what? ssh? |
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| 01:21.33 | lightcap | how do I do that? |
| 01:21.36 | bkudria | lightcap, yep |
| 01:21.45 | Stevie | popearz: dpkg -l |
| 01:21.52 | popearz | as it is now, I just type locate x and then dig through lots of stuff to finally find a version somewhere. |
| 01:21.59 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: not that I can tell |
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| 01:22.18 | popearz | thanks Stevie, I'll try that. |
| 01:22.25 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: what? |
| 01:22.30 | dondelelcaro | s/lightcap/lilo |
| 01:22.35 | lightcap | ah :) |
| 01:23.09 | bkudria | lightcap, i forgot |
| 01:23.26 | bkudria | lightcap, i think you can do apt-get install ssh={version} |
| 01:23.30 | Stevie | the latest version of uml-utilities in the official tree is 20040406. The latest version released is 20060216. Does dpkg have a factoid on an easy do-it-yourself deb-maker? |
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| 01:24.33 | lightcap | bkudria: sorry, my irc client just crashed...could you repost |
| 01:24.42 | dondelelcaro | Stevie: not for complex packages, no. Your best best is to use uscan and start with that. |
| 01:24.47 | mdmkolbe | How do I set up an IPSec tunnel? My university requires computers to be connected via a VPN tunnel. Unfortunately they only provide in structions for Windows. I haven't found an online guide that I can make sense out of |
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| 01:25.13 | bkudria | lightcap, i think you can do apt-get install ssh={version} |
| 01:25.30 | brianJP | hi, whats the command to add sources to apt? |
| 01:25.35 | lightcap | and what version do you suggest (without opening myself up to exploits like the CRC-32 one) |
| 01:25.57 | Pryon | vi /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:25.59 | stream_ | rm: cannot remove `/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock': Operation not permitted |
| 01:25.59 | stream_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.07 | lightcap | bkudria: out of curiousity what kernel are you runnig? |
| 01:26.20 | litage | where can i find information about apache/apache-ssl modules that seem to be specific to Debian? some modules, such as mod_auth_system and mod_put, are not mentioned on apache.org |
| 01:26.29 | brianJP | Pryon, yeah i thought there was a command to take you through the menu to add them |
| 01:26.32 | Stevie | dondelelcaro: The package isn't very complex. Just a few files |
| 01:26.32 | bkudria | lightcap, 2.6.14 |
| 01:26.39 | lightcap | hmm |
| 01:26.40 | bkudria | lightcap, aha! it is a pam issue |
| 01:26.50 | lightcap | ah...okay... |
| 01:26.56 | bkudria | lightcap, downgrade the pam ssh package, and read http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=314289 |
| 01:27.02 | bkudria | i think... |
| 01:27.04 | lightcap | okay |
| 01:27.05 | lightcap | thanks |
| 01:27.08 | popearz | dkpg -> command not found. Which one should I install? |
| 01:27.09 | bkudria | sure |
| 01:27.19 | bkudria | popearz, are you root? |
| 01:27.23 | popearz | erm dpkg |
| 01:27.26 | popearz | I can be |
| 01:27.37 | bkudria | 'dpkg' should be found :) |
| 01:28.02 | popearz | yeah, typo, it's there. |
| 01:28.19 | brianJP | is it possible to do it with dpkg-reconfigure something ? |
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| 01:29.01 | Stevie | do what? |
| 01:29.20 | vdhpe | I have a problem with a broken package that can not be removed |
| 01:29.23 | stream_ | sudo rm some.file tells me Operation not permitted; lsattr shows Operation not permitted do you know how i can remove this file? |
| 01:29.30 | brianJP | to add sources to apt |
| 01:29.55 | cat | brianJP: do apt-setup |
| 01:29.55 | Stevie | stream_: Lemme guess -- some.file is HUGE (>4GB) ? |
| 01:30.31 | brianJP | cat, apt-setup isn't install, nor does apt-cache search find it |
| 01:30.34 | Stevie | stream_: ? |
| 01:30.38 | stream_ | Stevie, no is a socket that mysql creates in /var/run |
| 01:30.45 | Stevie | oh |
| 01:30.49 | Stevie | well try this |
| 01:30.49 | cat | brianJP: it should be |
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| 01:31.02 | Stevie | sudo perl -le 'unlink "some.file";' |
| 01:31.02 | stream_ | thing is it wont go and mysql fails at start |
| 01:31.04 | cat | apt-setup it's a command |
| 01:31.19 | brianJP | cat, i know, i don't have it |
| 01:31.40 | cat | are you doing this as a $USER or root> |
| 01:31.46 | brianJP | root |
| 01:32.00 | cat | brianJP: do whereis apt |
| 01:32.09 | Stevie | stream_: try that |
| 01:32.17 | vdhpe | The package is libapache-mod-perl on etch and the error message is pre-removal script returns error status 10 |
| 01:32.21 | brianJP | ok |
| 01:33.22 | brianJP | apt: /etc/apt /usr/lib/apt /usr/share/apt /usr/share/man/man8/apt.8.gz |
| 01:33.26 | stream_ | Stevie, done it, file is still there your command return no message |
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| 01:33.53 | cat | brianJP: then apt-setup should be there, |
| 01:34.59 | stream_ | there was more of these files in var/run i had to change their attribs with chattr command just this one socket will not go ... |
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| 01:35.25 | gnufan | brianJP: what version of Debian are you running? |
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| 01:35.29 | cat | apt-setup it's a command |
| 01:35.54 | brianJP | gnufan, unstable |
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| 01:36.35 | brianJP | ok right now as root i'm running find / -name apt-setup |
| 01:36.47 | brianJP | that should find it if its there right? |
| 01:36.50 | cat | brianJP: just do apt-setup in a command line that's it |
| 01:36.56 | cat | brianJP: it should be there, |
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| 01:37.29 | brianJP | cat, no offense, but i'm not retarded, i know how to use the command line |
| 01:37.39 | brianJP | its just not there |
| 01:37.42 | cat | Just making sure |
| 01:37.51 | cat | let me see if there's any bug on apt for sid |
| 01:37.54 | brianJP | it least for sure its not in the path |
| 01:38.05 | cat | apt-setup it's part of apt, |
| 01:38.11 | cat | if you have apt you should have apt-setup |
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| 01:38.29 | strider | brianJP: sarge? |
| 01:38.50 | brianJP | strider, unstable |
| 01:39.03 | brianJP | ok find fineshed without finding it |
| 01:39.05 | strider | brianJP: no apt-setup then. |
| 01:39.19 | Gokee2_laptop | Hey all I need a ftp server in order to get ipcop to install. I could use my apatche web server serve ftp I think, but I was hoping for a easer way? It there a program I gat apt-get for a quick temp ftp server? needs to acept anonomus logon and download. Thanks! :) |
| 01:39.23 | cat | 0 bugs with apt-setup |
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| 01:39.29 | brianJP | strider, no apt-setup on unstable? |
| 01:40.05 | cat | brianJP: do apt-get install apt-setup-udeb |
| 01:40.07 | hexppl | hey, I'm trying to get Debian Sarge to work on my HP NetServer LH3R/...but it's not loading the megaraid driver...how do I get setup to load that drier? |
| 01:40.14 | strider | brianJP: right. AFAIk it's part of base-config |
| 01:40.18 | lightcap | well no luck with the bug fixes for ssh... |
| 01:40.23 | lightcap | anyone else have any ideas? |
| 01:40.31 | Xenguy | Gokee2_laptop: vsftpd is good |
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| 01:40.42 | cat | hexppl: is it a sata? |
| 01:40.45 | cat | scsi |
| 01:40.45 | mgoetze | hexppl: try booting the 2.6 install kernel instead of the default 2.4 |
| 01:40.46 | Gokee2_laptop | Xenguy, ok thanks I will try it |
| 01:40.55 | hexppl | SCSI, connected to embedded NetRAID controller |
| 01:40.56 | Xenguy | Gokee2_laptop: yw |
| 01:41.05 | hexppl | how do I do that? |
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| 01:41.26 | hexppl | er how do I boot the newer install kernel? |
| 01:41.35 | cat | hexppl: are you in the installation? |
| 01:41.42 | cat | or you ready installed debian? |
| 01:42.00 | mgoetze | hexppl: assuming you're installing off a cd, reboot and type "linux26" at the boot: prompt |
| 01:42.01 | hexppl | I cn't because I need that driver or something similar for it to seed the NetRAID |
| 01:42.09 | hexppl | ah OK |
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| 01:42.34 | hexppl | will try that and report back, thanks for the quick response :) |
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| 01:43.35 | waltz | is debian better than gentoo? |
| 01:43.58 | mgoetze | waltz: this isn't an advocacy channel |
| 01:44.07 | waltz | mgoetze: good answer, very witty ;) |
| 01:44.14 | hexppl | lol |
| 01:44.14 | brianJP | waltz, no, gentoo keeps your appartment warm in the winter |
| 01:44.36 | gravity | waltz: Such questions belong in ##linux or the like. Not #debian. |
| 01:44.37 | waltz | brianJP: what if I'm a polar bear..? |
| 01:44.39 | hexppl | I heard gentoo has no installer so in that aspect if you ike installlers debian is better |
| 01:44.56 | basbryan | where can i find an advocacy channel? |
| 01:45.03 | gravity | basbryan: ##linux |
| 01:45.09 | waltz | I was kidding guys, relax, shiesh |
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| 01:46.16 | astronut | what tool can i use to write arbitrary binary data to a file? |
| 01:46.18 | unix_infidel | its a sad day when you start compiling shit to keep your place warm as opposed to just inviting your gf over for some crown. |
| 01:46.35 | billatq | unix_infidel: Not really |
| 01:46.43 | billatq | unix_infidel: I generally do fractals |
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| 01:47.09 | billatq | It helps if you have an amd box though |
| 01:47.12 | mgoetze | unix_infidel: my gf doesn't like to come unless it's warm already, and her definition of warm is, unfortunately, not the same as mine... |
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| 01:47.31 | gnufan | brianJP: perspexed here -- sure I've used apt-setup -- but definitely nothing sensible suggests itself -- what were you planning to add -- I think you'll be doing it manually... Remember IBM :) |
| 01:47.58 | hexppl | nope, it still didn't load the megaraid driver :-( |
| 01:48.22 | kingsley | astronut: echo |
| 01:48.40 | hexppl | is there some way I can do it via the installers terminal? |
| 01:48.42 | brianJP | gnufan, yeah i know i've used it on other debian setups too, |
| 01:48.44 | billatq | Would anyone have any suggestions on the quickest way to do a network install using windows 95/loadlin as a host platform? |
| 01:48.57 | kingsley | astronut: Here's an example: echo -e '\xHH' > filename |
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| 01:49.09 | brianJP | it just would be nice to not have to go on the we to find the sources |
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| 01:49.14 | kingsley | astronut: "HH" is a hex code for binary data. |
| 01:49.16 | mgoetze | hexppl: well, you can get some help at the boot: prompt by hitting the various function keys, but if that doesn't do it, you'll need a custom kernel... megaraid support is pretty tough stuff i'm afraid |
| 01:49.17 | billatq | I've got this old tablet that wont boot from external media, has no floppy or cdrom, and windows95 preinstalled |
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| 01:49.38 | hexppl | fk |
| 01:49.42 | Stevie | kingsley: Wouldn't HH be octadecimal? |
| 01:49.49 | mgoetze | hexppl: you might try googling around though, could be someone already made a cd image with the kind of kernel you need |
| 01:50.00 | hexppl | what's so tough about megaraid? |
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| 01:50.31 | mgoetze | hexppl: dunno, but my dell poweredge fileserver sure is picky about which kernel versions it likes to run... |
| 01:50.43 | strider | brianJP: why apt-setup now? |
| 01:50.50 | stu_ | Hello #debian, I have a problem with an etch box, I just rebooted it for the first time in months and it's getting a kernel panic on boot, "VFS: cannot open root device "302" or unknown-block (3,2) / Please append a correct "root=" boot option" |
| 01:50.56 | billatq | mgoetze: Yeah, I had that problem when using poweredges too a while back |
| 01:51.08 | billatq | I like HP as far as linux support goes |
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| 01:51.36 | kingsley | stu_: Have you searched google's web and usenet archives for the error string? |
| 01:51.39 | gnufan | hexppl: I think they keep changing the technology and calling it all "megaraid", if all else fails try the legacy megaraid driver -- work for me -- but then I have an old PERC card (also megaraid of some sort). |
| 01:51.51 | lsald | any progress on the lightscribe support? |
| 01:52.14 | mgoetze | sometimes i dream of migrating the network at work over to NFSv4, then i recollect that it would mean getting all the hardware running under some ultramodern kernels... |
| 01:52.35 | stu_ | kingsley, i've googled and continue to google it.. one suggestion is to verify my grub.conf but I'm not sure how to boot an older kernel image, I'm used to getting a kernel selection screen from fedora and ubuntu |
| 01:52.43 | brianJP | strider, cause i'm lazy, it would be easier to just run a command than to go the web |
| 01:52.58 | billatq | mgoetze: Versus the postimpressionistic kernels? :) |
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| 01:53.10 | mgoetze | billatq: right |
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| 01:53.41 | strider | brianJP: well, if you just want mirrors /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 01:54.05 | mgoetze | stu_: did you use only debian kernel packages? |
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| 01:54.26 | kingsley | stu_: I recommend having some kind of a so called "rescue disk" available, like a live CD from knoppix or a Tom's rootboot floppy. You can boot from them and example grub.conf and other files. |
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| 01:54.37 | stu_ | moetze, I only use the stock kernel images that apt pulls down for me |
| 01:54.45 | brianJP | strider, cool thanks |
| 01:54.47 | kingsley | stu_: s/example/examine/ |
| 01:54.49 | billatq | So am I heading down the path of trouble if I have to use an orinoco card to do a network install? |
| 01:54.50 | mgoetze | stu_: in that case you should have a grub menu |
| 01:55.03 | mgoetze | stu_: just hit e before it boots |
| 01:55.23 | stu_ | gonna take a trip across the KVM switch and try that |
| 01:55.26 | mgoetze | stu_: and then replace root=302 with root=/dev/whatever |
| 01:55.32 | dooglus | which package do I need to make beep-media-player able to play .flac songs? |
| 01:56.25 | MatBoy | how often are sessions in mysql for horde being removed ? |
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| 01:57.03 | stu_ | sorry, turns out it's using lilo, not grub... I'm still not seeing an opportunity to choose boot parameters while it boots |
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| 01:57.32 | mgoetze | haven't used lilo for years, sorry :) |
| 01:57.57 | MatBoy | stu_, what? your problem with Lilo ? |
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| 01:58.19 | stu_ | this box is just full of surprises for me... it's been almost a year since i even hooked up a monitor to it |
| 01:58.40 | stu_ | i'm getting kernel panics on boot, and i'm not sure how to tell lilo to try using an older kernel image |
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| 01:59.23 | strider | brianJP: you'll probably like apt-spy as well ;) |
| 01:59.24 | johhny_b | any linux n00bs here who can share the experince? i am thinking of changing to linux |
| 01:59.53 | gnufan | stu_: lilo has a load of interrupt keys -- try guessing ;) or put caps lock on after the BIOS splash screen |
| 01:59.54 | MatBoy | stu_, can be done with changing the lilo.conf with a bootcd and reinstall it |
| 02:00.11 | MatBoy | or give it manually during the boot :) |
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| 02:00.46 | Azzkicker | HOW TO: Boot Windows XP on Intel Based Mac's *Instructions Inside* |
| 02:00.48 | Azzkicker | HOW TO: http://www.steaknbj.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83 |
| 02:00.49 | brianJP | strider, cool apt-spy - writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests |
| 02:00.50 | Azzkicker | HOW TO: Boot Windows XP on Intel Based Mac's *Instructions Inside* |
| 02:00.52 | Azzkicker | HOW TO: http://www.steaknbj.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83 |
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| 02:01.03 | gnufan | stu_: behaviour is sounds similar to what happens if you don't have initrd, and don't have a filesystem the kernel can recognise..... what happened since install to break it I wonder? |
| 02:01.07 | vdhpe | I have tried "apt-get --force-yes remove libapache-mod-perl" and "dpkg --force-all" to install a deb package but it gives a pre-removal and post-installation error. Is the only way to find the files for this package and remove them? |
| 02:01.13 | mgoetze | johhny_b: no need, you can just keep using mac os x and you'll be fine |
| 02:01.17 | strider | brianJP: yeah, it's awesome |
| 02:01.32 | johhny_b | mgoetze: new to linux? |
| 02:02.04 | mgoetze | vdhpe: /var/lib/dpkg/... iirc |
| 02:02.33 | mgoetze | johhny_b: who, me? |
| 02:02.35 | stu_ | i haven't done anything with the box hardware-wise, short of unplugging and reconnecting a flaky USB drive occasionally, the box runs headless with a stock kernel and I do regular apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrades |
| 02:02.39 | johhny_b | mgoetze: yea |
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| 02:03.09 | mgoetze | johhny_b: yeah, have been new to linux for years now, that's why they pay me so little for my sysadmin job |
| 02:03.10 | azeem | johhny_b: this is mostly a support channel, not for sharing experience |
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| 02:03.31 | azeem | johhny_b: just try out Debian and if you have questions or problems, ask here |
| 02:03.43 | gnufan | stu_: I think maybe you've done a kernel update and not run lilo again in the regular updated (grub doesn't need that, it just works in Debian grub does -- hence the slow response to lilo questions). |
| 02:04.10 | billatq | mgoetze: Heh, my problem is just that I used to work in academia |
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| 02:04.27 | vdhpe | mgoetze: I have added set -x to the prerm and postinst scripts but the output doesn't help me |
| 02:04.28 | stu_ | i'm thinking one of my apt-get dist-upgrades pulled down a kernel image that isn't getting along with my lilo configs somehow... it's puzzling since everything is stock, i just changed the apt sources to testing, never meddled with lilo configs or kernel configs on this box |
| 02:04.28 | gnufan | stu_: if so the recovery CD approach sounds good ..... worth bootings, mount disk, chroot, and run /sbin/lilo -- won't hurt and might fix or reveal the problem |
| 02:04.56 | mgoetze | billatq: actually that's what i'm doing... but part time, and i'm a student, nice to have an office to go to between lectures :) |
| 02:04.57 | gnufan | stu_: you have to run lilo manually after kernel upgrade.... |
| 02:05.47 | stu_ | that might be it, gnufan.. i have a screen session running constantly on that box so it's not unusual for me to walk away from a dist-upgrade and miss a warning |
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| 02:05.59 | mgoetze | vdhpe: if all else fails, just delete those scripts and fix your apache config by hand afterwards... i'm assuming that's all those scripts do, anyway |
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| 02:06.19 | stu_ | gonna see if i can't find a fairly recent knoppix cd lying around |
| 02:06.25 | egolost | how do I make gcc 3.4 default on my unstable system (its 4.0 right now)? |
| 02:06.29 | gnufan | stu_: when you get it working -- see if you can use grub -- it really is better for Debian kernel packages... |
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| 02:07.04 | ORTALDJ | /server vse.no.ip.info |
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| 02:07.11 | gnufan | egolost: try "export GCC=gcc-3.4" before the build |
| 02:07.37 | billatq | mgoetze: Well, it sure does pay the bills--I did that for a few years |
| 02:08.13 | gnufan | egolost: I think you can just relink gcc to gcc-3.4 but I wouldn't if it were my box.... |
| 02:08.14 | mgoetze | billatq: heh... i'd be pretty darn poor if that were my only source of income... fortunately my mother is very generous :) |
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| 02:08.45 | mgoetze | gnufan: should be CC=... |
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| 02:10.17 | gnufan | egolost: urm yes mgoetze is right export CC=gcc-3.4.... time for me to sleep some I think |
| 02:10.58 | mgoetze | sleep... good idea |
| 02:11.09 | mgoetze | gnight |
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| 02:12.50 | vdhpe | mgoetze: That worked, the package has been removed |
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| 02:13.35 | brianJP | strider, awesome...i'm not downloading at 500 kB/s :) |
| 02:13.50 | brianJP | *now |
| 02:13.52 | ma3x | what should I do to import marillat's key, so that I dont get this W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 02:15.13 | azeem | !marillat key |
| 02:15.13 | dpkg | it has been said that marillat key is gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
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| 02:15.44 | ma3x | thanks |
| 02:16.09 | strider | brianJP: cool :) |
| 02:16.39 | ma3x | azeem, now how did dpkg know that? how could I for eg. find out that information myself? |
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| 02:18.15 | azeem | ma3x: I knew dpkg knows it, cause I saw it mentioned earlier today |
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| 02:18.33 | ma3x | azeem, I mean how can you export the key yourself? |
| 02:19.06 | azeem | ? |
| 02:19.39 | azeem | somebody fed that information to dpkg under the `marillat key' factoid |
| 02:19.41 | rolo | does debian sarge comes with a tool to access a windows machine through Remote desktop connection ? |
| 02:20.32 | chealer9 | rolo: yes |
| 02:20.56 | rolo | chealer9: whats its name ? how can i find it in KDE? |
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| 02:21.40 | ma3x | I have mplayerplug-in installed, but I can't find it in the apt-cache... why/ |
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| 02:23.50 | chealer9 | rolo: there are VNC clients and RFB clients. KDE's krdc is a frontend for both protocols |
| 02:24.40 | azeem | ma3x: maybe the package is called differently, did you try apt-cache search rather than apt-cache show? |
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| 02:24.56 | azeem | also, run dpkg -S /path/to/mplayerplugin-binary |
| 02:25.13 | ma3x | azeem, it's just a plugin |
| 02:25.16 | ma3x | its okay thaks |
| 02:25.31 | rolo | chealer9: cool thank you... i got it now :D |
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| 02:32.01 | jetscreamer | how did you install the mplayer plugin, via apt-get? |
| 02:32.01 | IO-Jupiter | Hi! I am a newbie to Debian. Not Linux. After installing the netinst "testing", I booted and tried to use aptitude to install new applications. I was asked to insert a CD (cannot remember the name)! How do I tell aptitude to go only to the net for the new packages? |
| 02:32.28 | jetscreamer | IO-Jupiter: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the cd entry, then apt-get update |
| 02:32.51 | jetscreamer | nano should be available |
| 02:32.52 | Stevie | in "top", what is the 'wa' percentage (e.g. us=user, sy=system, id=idle) ? |
| 02:33.16 | rolo | chealer9: and do you know how the clipboard works on this ? |
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| 02:34.35 | chealer9 | rolo: hm, the clipboard? |
| 02:35.05 | IO-Jupiter | jetscreamer: I'll give it a try ... Another Q. How can I change from GRUB to LILO. Is it enough to install lilo? How to configure it the Debian way? |
| 02:35.05 | rolo | chealer0: yes, i want to copy some text from my local desktop to this remote |
| 02:35.29 | jetscreamer | apt-get install lilo, the run liloconfig |
| 02:35.59 | jetscreamer | s/the/then/ |
| 02:35.59 | rolo | chealer9: it passes something ... but its something i had on my clipboard before ... not what i have in it now |
| 02:36.05 | jetscreamer | then edit lilo.conf, make sure you like how it is, then run lilo |
| 02:36.12 | jetscreamer | /etc/lilo.conf |
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| 02:36.42 | jetscreamer | rolo: yeah, clipboards are weird in linux |
| 02:37.03 | chealer9 | rolo: OK. you can't exchange content between the clipboard of 2 PCs |
| 02:37.29 | jetscreamer | there may even be > 1 clipboard in linux/debian... not sure but it sure acts like it |
| 02:37.30 | zenbum | is gnome 2.14 in sid yet?.... when do you suppose it will be in etch? |
| 02:37.36 | jetscreamer | !info gnome |
| 02:37.40 | dpkg | gnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.12.3 (sid), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 20 kB |
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| 02:37.54 | jetscreamer | !info libgnome-vfs |
| 02:37.56 | rolo | cgealer9: i did that when RDP from a windows to another windows ... and i can pass something in the clipboard from this linux to the remote Windows |
| 02:38.06 | rolo | but its not what i have on the clipboard currently |
| 02:38.31 | zenbum | historically, how long does it take a new version of gnome to get into sid? |
| 02:38.38 | rolo | whats even stranger ... its that if i paste it in my local desktop it paste what i want , and if i do on the remote machine it pastes something else |
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| 02:38.42 | chealer9 | rolo: with simple copy paste? |
| 02:38.57 | jetscreamer | beats me but i think it's .14 |
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| 02:39.00 | rolo | chealer9: right, simple copy and paste |
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| 02:39.32 | rolo | the RDP in windows has an options to specify if you want to share the clipboard between both pc's ... |
| 02:39.48 | rolo | i cant find that in this rdp on linux ... but it passes something though |
| 02:39.50 | IO-Jupiter | jetscreamer: OK. I know how to edit lilo.conf. But sometimes (some distrs) some parameters are needed in the "append" option. These options are generally put there by the install process. Does "liloconf" create them or "no options" (no append) is enough to boot debian using lilo? |
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| 02:40.12 | chealer9 | rolo: historically, nobody keeps track of that, and you should just look at Debian changelogs versus upstream changelogs if you care so much |
| 02:40.16 | jetscreamer | append is usually blank |
| 02:40.20 | chealer9 | rolo: oops... |
| 02:40.20 | jetscreamer | by default |
| 02:40.27 | chealer9 | zenbum: historically, nobody keeps track of that, and you should just look at Debian changelogs versus upstream changelogs if you care so much |
| 02:40.32 | rolo | chealer: lol. dont worry |
| 02:40.34 | jetscreamer | but the entry is created |
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| 02:40.55 | zenbum | chealer9: sorry, thought someone might know off the top of their head |
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| 02:41.21 | IO-Jupiter | jetscreamer: Thenk you very much. I'm going to try it ... Bye |
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| 02:41.31 | jetscreamer | np |
| 02:41.43 | rolo | so we dont know how the RDP handles that ? |
| 02:41.48 | chealer9 | rolo: Windows' RFB is more elaborate than VNC. you use RFB? |
| 02:41.50 | rolo | ...in linux that is |
| 02:42.17 | rolo | chealer9: nope in Windows I use Remote Desktop Connection |
| 02:42.54 | rolo | chealer9: all programs> accesories> communications > Remote desktop Connection |
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| 02:43.09 | rolo | comes in winXP |
| 02:43.15 | ma3x | damn shouldn't have deinstalled marillat's mplayer |
| 02:43.21 | ma3x | now I get the same error |
| 02:43.24 | cshaman | hi |
| 02:43.27 | nevyn | krdp is the bomb |
| 02:43.32 | astronut | does any java person know what an IOException with the message "Bad file descriptor" mean when calling RandomAccessFile.setLength()? |
| 02:43.44 | ma3x | when I have option '-of mpeg' in mencoder, my sound corrupt for %90 |
| 02:43.50 | rolo | by the way .... any one knows of a nice free dvd player for linux ? or one that i can get with aptitude ? |
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| 02:44.01 | ma3x | vlc |
| 02:44.04 | disposable | astronut: try ##java |
| 02:44.33 | chealer9 | rolo: sorry, I'm confused. I meant RDP instead of RFB |
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| 02:45.04 | rolo | chealer9: right, in windows i use that one ,,,, the ones that comes with windows xp |
| 02:45.56 | ollanta | hello I need source.list for sid somebody me can provide porfavor? |
| 02:46.04 | ollanta | please |
| 02:46.22 | chealer9 | rolo: sorry, I'm not sure whether what you want is possible |
| 02:46.27 | dondelelcaro | ollanta: just use a sarge sources.list, and s/sarge/sid/; but you should know this if you're using sid. |
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| 02:47.02 | spoopin | rolo: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:47.03 | naphex | In firefox (on testing), if I type http//whatever (forgetting the colon), I and up at micrsoft.com. Am I the only one? |
| 02:47.16 | naphex | I end up, sorry. |
| 02:47.26 | rolo | chealer9: its ok. Thank you for your help .... I know its possible 1-) because it did from win to win 2-) because i am now passing somthing on the clipboard to the remote desktop ... but its not what i want |
| 02:47.28 | ollanta | dondelelcaro, I do not understand |
| 02:47.45 | rolo | its just that i dont know how to ... or how rdp's clipboard is managed |
| 02:47.46 | nevyn | rolo: which clipboard.. |
| 02:47.55 | nevyn | linux has like at least 2 if not more |
| 02:48.02 | ollanta | hello I need source.list for sid somebody me can provide please help me? |
| 02:48.04 | rolo | nevyn: really ??? |
| 02:48.09 | _jason | naphex: that's just a google I'm feeling luck search for ``http//'' |
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| 02:48.19 | nevyn | rolo: there's the highlight clipboard... and the copy paste buffer which are different |
| 02:48.23 | dondelelcaro | ollanta: run apt-setup; set up your sources.list for sarge. Replace sarge with sid. |
| 02:48.28 | dansan | when should I use upgrade and when should I use dist-upgrade? |
| 02:48.30 | rolo | nevyn: well i dont know which one ... how do i find out .... |
| 02:48.36 | nevyn | rolo: if you just highlight something and then middle click... that's one buffer |
| 02:48.38 | rolo | nevyn : what i want is the copy and paste one |
| 02:48.44 | naphex | _jason: great! thanks :). I've been wondering for a while... |
| 02:48.47 | ollanta | I want to migrate of sarge to sid I need source.list |
| 02:48.52 | nevyn | if you use ctrl-c ctrl-v that's a different buffer |
| 02:48.56 | rolo | nevyn: i am highlighing then right click then copy |
| 02:48.57 | _jason | naphex: no, no conspiracy :) |
| 02:49.13 | dansan | some people say: use upgrade other dist-upgrade, what's the deal on the difference between those 2? |
| 02:49.17 | nevyn | that's the ctrl-c ctrl-v one |
| 02:49.20 | naphex | _jason: not thinking of that :). just curiosity. |
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| 02:49.24 | rolo | nevyn: right |
| 02:49.26 | nevyn | dansan: upgrade won't remoe |
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| 02:49.45 | dansan | so... upgrade is safer? |
| 02:49.46 | itrebal | does Sarge come with a firewall of some sort? and how can i poke holes in it? |
| 02:50.00 | Stevie | iptables |
| 02:50.14 | chealer9 | dansan: it depends on what you want to do... |
| 02:50.14 | itrebal | thanks |
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| 02:50.39 | spoopin | itrebal: I don't think it installs by default, and it certainly doesn't configure itself |
| 02:50.47 | Stevie | iptables is the Linux firewall, and it has features that I don't think I'll ever use in a rule |
| 02:50.49 | disposable | itrebal: if you don't want to spend your youth setting it up, try Firestarter |
| 02:50.54 | itrebal | heh |
| 02:51.06 | itrebal | is it a gui app? |
| 02:51.07 | dansan | chealer9: I don't kow what the difference is, so how can I know what to use? |
| 02:51.12 | disposable | itrebal: yes. |
| 02:51.23 | itrebal | is there a commandline alternative? |
| 02:51.41 | spoopin | itrebal: yep. iptables ;) |
| 02:51.45 | disposable | itrebal: once you set it, you dont need to run it again. it runs as a daemon in the background. no need for gui anymore |
| 02:51.47 | rolo | well i will have to pass it through ftp |
| 02:51.50 | Stevie | Starting apt-proxy |
| 02:51.50 | Stevie | Failed to load application: No module named apt_pkg |
| 02:51.51 | chealer9 | dansan: did you check their description? if so and that didn't answer your question, what do you want to do? |
| 02:51.52 | Stevie | wtf |
| 02:51.53 | stu_ | woo-hoo! i recovered from my failed-to-run-lilo-after-kernel-upgrade fiasco.. booted knoppix, googled up some stuff on "mount -o dev" and chroot and lilo finally fixed me up |
| 02:52.05 | itrebal | disposable: its on a server, and i dont want X |
| 02:52.29 | disposable | itrebal: well, enjoy setting iptable rules :) |
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| 02:52.31 | george_ | stu_: nice job... might be a good thing for you to document what you did |
| 02:52.32 | spoopin | stu_: I hate it when that happens.. |
| 02:52.33 | rolo | when putting a linux text file tu a windows server through ftp ... should i use ascii or binary ? |
| 02:52.46 | itrebal | disposable: i have a book on it... provides a decent firewall |
| 02:52.48 | stu_ | so what's the best practice as far as switching from lilo to grub ? |
| 02:52.50 | spoopin | rolo: ascii |
| 02:52.52 | rolo | and how do i tell lftp to pass it as ascii or binary? |
| 02:53.11 | Stevie | anyone here running apt-proxy ? |
| 02:53.13 | george_ | stu_: practice peace and compassion |
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| 02:53.36 | stu_ | george_ .... done! what's next |
| 02:53.53 | george_ | umm, bow to east three times... |
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| 02:54.11 | maelztrom | Anyone in here use the webmin bandwidth monitoring tool in the packages? |
| 02:54.14 | disposable | itrebal: firestarter is gui to iptables. the safest bet is to download a readymade configuration script and just adjust it to your needs. no need to do it from scratch. |
| 02:54.19 | george_ | seriously,. the first thing to do is read up on grub |
| 02:54.25 | phaedral | hi all; I'm getting ready to put testing on my laptop...but need to prep the hd; usually use a live-cd with qparted, thought I'd check if there's a better way... |
| 02:54.31 | tuv | any elaborations/resources on kdevelop vs. anjuta? |
| 02:54.36 | stu_ | yeah, i'll google up a howto somewheres |
| 02:54.41 | itrebal | disposable: it has a ready-made one, i'm modifying it |
| 02:54.49 | george_ | you -could- just install it... but it would be a good thing for you to learn how it works |
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| 02:55.17 | george_ | because... grub has this shell |
| 02:55.24 | disposable | itrebal: looking at uif or uruk might be worth a while |
| 02:55.33 | george_ | you boot into that shell (nothing else loaded) |
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| 02:55.45 | george_ | and then you can arbitrarily boot anything that's there |
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| 02:56.33 | george_ | so you can learn how to boot something by doing it... and then save what you did so that grub automatically boots the way you discovered |
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| 02:57.20 | stu_ | thanks again for the help mgoetze, george_, kingsley, and a couple more whose names i lost to the scrollback buffer bit bucket during a reboot |
| 02:57.28 | Stevie | how do I file a dependency bug? (package A depends on package B, but does not list it as a dependency) |
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| 02:58.12 | gravity | Stevie: reportbug packageA |
| 02:58.21 | george_ | you could find the maintainer and drop him a short note, and ask him or her if an actual bug report is desired |
| 02:58.25 | gravity | Stevie: Just file it as a normal bug and explain what the dep is. They'll get it. |
| 02:58.40 | disposable | how do i kill a zombie? |
| 02:58.48 | george_ | wooden cross |
| 02:58.57 | Stevie | no no |
| 02:58.57 | disposable | george_: not what i meant |
| 02:59.00 | Stevie | that's vampires |
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| 02:59.06 | Stevie | zombies you have to destroy the brain |
| 02:59.07 | george_ | oh, right, sorry :) |
| 02:59.30 | dondelelcaro | BRAINS |
| 02:59.31 | disposable | how do i kill a zombie PROCESS? -9 or -15 no use anymore |
| 02:59.33 | Stevie | okay, now I need to learn how to file a bug |
| 02:59.38 | george_ | destroy brain with wooden cross... that way you cover cross-pollenation possibility |
| 02:59.43 | dondelelcaro | disposable: you don't kill a zombie, because they're already dead. |
| 03:00.02 | disposable | dondelelcaro: so how do i get rid of it? |
| 03:00.15 | Stevie | have you tried asking politely? |
| 03:00.17 | dondelelcaro | disposable: you wait for the parent, which is itself braindead, to call waitpid. |
| 03:00.26 | george_ | seriously, it has to be reaped (waited upon) by its owner process |
| 03:00.30 | Stevie | 'please, pid 12345, go away' |
| 03:00.45 | dondelelcaro | disposable: until that happens, it'll stay around... but it's not really a big deal anyway. |
| 03:00.49 | george_ | go away, little pid.... |
| 03:00.57 | disposable | xmms's been a zombie for almost half an hour now |
| 03:01.04 | Stevie | what ran it? |
| 03:01.06 | george_ | I know that your streams are sweet... |
| 03:01.11 | disposable | Stevie: I did :) |
| 03:01.14 | george_ | but our streams will never meet... |
| 03:01.19 | dondelelcaro | disposable: then your shell hasn't called waitpid onit |
| 03:01.57 | the_empty | A year or two ago I found a cool sniffer that would show images as they flew across the wire in an XWindow |
| 03:01.58 | disposable | i'll have to Search The Fine Web on what waitpid is... |
| 03:02.12 | Stevie | you could do man wait |
| 03:02.13 | the_empty | I cannot remember the name for the life of me... anyone know it? |
| 03:02.18 | george_ | it's a lib call |
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| 03:02.41 | george_ | the name for the life of you is "the_empty" |
| 03:03.12 | Pollywog | I just installed Sarge but KDE complains it cannot find dcopserver |
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| 03:03.34 | disposable | bye guys |
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| 03:03.52 | Stevie | did you call the dcops and report your server stolen? |
| 03:04.23 | the_empty | george_, thanks :P |
| 03:04.29 | pubkey | how do I fix this: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available |
| 03:04.53 | umeboshi | the_empty, it's on the tip of my tounge ; my friend used to run it all the time |
| 03:04.59 | Stevie | pubkey: Some people might read the topic and see the part that says "PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key" |
| 03:05.08 | umeboshi | something with 'drift' in it i think |
| 03:05.09 | Stevie | pubkey: But then, you are clearly not one of those people |
| 03:05.19 | the_empty | umeboshi, I know, it was a nifty app... Fun to run on the corporate LAN ;) |
| 03:05.26 | umeboshi | tha |
| 03:05.36 | umeboshi | t's exactly where it was run ;) |
| 03:06.14 | pubkey | Stevie: my apologies ... the top has scrolled off and I didn't realize my problem was generic ... tnx |
| 03:06.15 | Pollywog | Debian is such a pain to configure when installed, I don't recall what causes this dcop problem |
| 03:06.31 | Stevie | Pollywog: cat /etc/debian-version |
| 03:06.38 | umeboshi | the_empty, grep-available drift | grep-dctrl image | less |
| 03:06.41 | Stevie | err |
| 03:06.48 | Stevie | not that, which one is it |
| 03:06.56 | umeboshi | the_empty, i got driftnet, whit is whatit was |
| 03:06.57 | Stevie | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 03:07.04 | the_empty | YES |
| 03:07.08 | Stevie | NO |
| 03:07.10 | Stevie | MAYBE |
| 03:07.11 | the_empty | umeboshi, thank you |
| 03:07.13 | Pollywog | version 3.1 |
| 03:07.26 | the_empty | Stevie: Value out of range in binary string on line 3 |
| 03:07.27 | umeboshi | np, that brought back many fine memories :) |
| 03:07.39 | Pollywog | I think I will have to purge KDE and then install it again |
| 03:07.49 | Stevie | the_empty: you need to install libqbit5-dev |
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| 03:08.33 | the_empty | Stevie, I think I need a better laptop to compile it |
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| 03:09.24 | Stevie | lol |
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| 03:10.45 | itrebal | is unrealircd on some source server? its not on mine, and i'm having issues installing it |
| 03:12.27 | rakslice | Is it just me, or is stable boot-floppies handling of disklabels a little confusing? |
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| 03:13.19 | Pollywog | I have never seen this before my home directory is listed with 4 colums of numbers on it |
| 03:13.37 | Pollywog | I think I will need to reinstall and reformat /home |
| 03:14.55 | Pollywog | using a /home from a previous Linux did not go well |
| 03:15.12 | rakslice | I'm trying to get an install up and running on a sparc box and I'm having partitioning issues.... |
| 03:15.30 | pipeline | more detail, rakslice |
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| 03:16.17 | itrebal | Pollywog: thats never worked for me... or, rather, it worked long enough for me to copy my files over |
| 03:16.34 | rakslice | It took me a couple of tries going through partitioning and base install, but I realized that the install had picked up an old PC disklabel and was using it instead of creating a fresh sun disklabel |
| 03:16.42 | Pollywog | it worked for me under Xandros but not here |
| 03:16.52 | Stevie | itrebal: Agreed. What I did was take the old drive and stick it in a usb enclosure and transfer the files after installing to a new drive |
| 03:16.55 | rakslice | (which gives me a system that there's no way to boot from the hd) |
| 03:17.13 | itrebal | Stevie: sounds good to me |
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| 03:17.26 | Pollywog | I will lose my vmware directory |
| 03:17.29 | Stevie | rakslice: if you need to wipe the disklabel, dd is your friend |
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| 03:18.29 | Pollywog | I think I might be able to fix this without a reinstall |
| 03:18.45 | itrebal | has anyone had issues with iptables, or some other firewall not allowing thigns through? i've done iptables --flush, but it didnt do anything |
| 03:18.46 | rakslice | is there a way to switch VTs from a serial console so I don't have to play 20 questions to get to the install menu so I can run a shell from it? |
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| 03:19.44 | Overand | in the GNOME terminal, is there an easy way to get a 'classic' style (bitmapped) terminal font ala 'terminal' on win32 or 'Linux' in Konsole? |
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| 03:20.14 | curt | itrebal, do iptables --list and see what there |
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| 03:21.40 | itrebal | Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination |
| 03:21.40 | itrebal | Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination |
| 03:21.40 | itrebal | Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination |
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| 03:22.18 | Pollywog | I get that invalid magic cookie error when I startx |
| 03:22.19 | curt | itrebal, those are just the headers, no rules there |
| 03:22.37 | Pollywog | I seem to remember there is a wrapper or something for this problem |
| 03:23.07 | itrebal | any ideas what might be keeping my ircd from being accessed from outside the compy? |
| 03:23.28 | Pollywog | is there a way to install Debian and just have KDE work the first time? |
| 03:23.37 | rakslice | stevie: ah, k. found my way to a shell, zeroed out some blocks, and now the partitioning step asked me to write a fresh disklabel. excellent. thx! |
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| 03:24.17 | itrebal | Pollywog: you download the debian_kde_will_work_first_time_garanteed.iso file :) |
| 03:24.22 | george_ | ok, debootstrap completed, no problems. How would I now install an additional package on it, before actually booting into it? (want to install grub) |
| 03:24.35 | Stevie | rakslice: :) I used a similar technique to do a fresh Debian install over a drive that already had stuff on it (the partition manager doesn't want to screw around when it detects an existing system) |
| 03:24.49 | Pollywog | I used the CD that came with Debian System book |
| 03:24.57 | Stevie | Pollywog: use a netinst cd |
| 03:24.59 | powder | Hello guys, so I finally got Alsa working... :) |
| 03:25.25 | billatq | george_: You can chroot into the partition if you have everything working and apt-get install it |
| 03:25.38 | billatq | s/partition/install/ |
| 03:25.40 | Stevie | rakslice: By the way: Good job on figuring out what I meant :) |
| 03:25.47 | george_ | ok... say it's /mnt |
| 03:25.52 | Pollywog | I think Xandros spoiled me ;) |
| 03:25.54 | george_ | I do chroot /mnt bash? |
| 03:25.59 | itrebal | powder: i was having trouble with that too |
| 03:26.06 | george_ | is Xandros cute? |
| 03:26.06 | billatq | chroot /mnt would work |
| 03:26.08 | billatq | or chroot /bin/bash |
| 03:26.14 | billatq | er.. |
| 03:26.14 | Pollywog | success! |
| 03:26.20 | billatq | chroot /mnt /bin/bash |
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| 03:26.27 | Stevie | billatq: ENOTDIR |
| 03:26.28 | Stevie | ;) |
| 03:26.35 | d03boy | check out my error when installing kdevelop3-data http://pastebin.com/606787 |
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| 03:27.04 | billatq | Stevie: Well, he says he has it mounted there, so I'll take his word for it |
| 03:27.26 | george_ | the chroot pings... good... |
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| 03:28.01 | Stevie | /bin/bash: ENOTDIR |
| 03:28.10 | Stevie | d03boy: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 03:28.21 | Stevie | make sure that that locale you specified is built |
| 03:28.23 | d03boy | okie dokie |
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| 03:28.28 | d03boy | however I do that...... |
| 03:28.46 | d03boy | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed |
| 03:28.59 | emilio_quiron | Hello, I have a trouble setting up an snort server.. |
| 03:29.17 | umeboshi | george_, dont' forget to install a kernel-image package (debootstrap doesn't do that) and bootloader |
| 03:29.52 | billatq | umeboshi: Well, looks like that's what he's doing |
| 03:29.52 | emilio_quiron | Does anybody know about strange working of snort (sarge release) |
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| 03:30.22 | george_ | umeboshi: can I install a really new one like 2.6.15.5? |
| 03:30.24 | powder | Is it normal to receive this message when running a program as root? http://pastebin.com/606789 |
| 03:30.33 | emilio_quiron | It detects trafic for the rest of computers hooked on the switch |
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| 03:30.52 | emilio_quiron | but not the trafic to the machine running snort. |
| 03:30.58 | umeboshi | george_, sure, although you may need a newer mkinitrd package |
| 03:31.07 | george_ | sigh |
| 03:31.16 | billatq | george_: You might have to build your own package to do that. I'd suggest getting a stock kernel first |
| 03:31.29 | Stevie | is george_ bootstrapping a sarge or etch system? |
| 03:31.35 | george_ | sarge |
| 03:31.51 | Stevie | then it'd be tricky |
| 03:31.55 | d03boy | locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 03:31.59 | d03boy | how do I fix this locale stuff? |
| 03:32.02 | george_ | hmm, how goes etch? |
| 03:32.17 | d03boy | george_, sucks! |
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| 03:32.17 | Stevie | not for me, d03boy :) |
| 03:32.17 | george_ | does? |
| 03:32.21 | george_ | hmm |
| 03:32.25 | Stevie | d03boy: did you try dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 03:32.31 | d03boy | Stevie, yes |
| 03:32.39 | d03boy | errors |
| 03:32.41 | Stevie | okay |
| 03:32.45 | george_ | so if I get a new mkinitrd pkg, what does that thing depend on? |
| 03:32.46 | Stevie | are you at a command prompt? |
| 03:32.49 | d03boy | sure |
| 03:32.50 | lightcap | tarzeau: can I have that link again for the kernel-package stuff |
| 03:32.52 | Stevie | locale -a |
| 03:32.54 | umeboshi | george_, not much else |
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| 03:33.12 | umeboshi | george_, the mkinitrd is useful if you don;t know the hardware you are booting into |
| 03:33.21 | george_ | or holds off and considers that |
| 03:33.28 | Stevie | d03boy: locale -a |
| 03:33.34 | george_ | does mkinitrd have bins? |
| 03:33.38 | Stevie | d03boy: pastebot the output |
| 03:33.41 | d03boy | Stevie, http://pastebin.com/606792 |
| 03:33.56 | george_ | !info mkinitrd sarge |
| 03:34.05 | Stevie | okay |
| 03:34.11 | george_ | does not exist |
| 03:34.15 | Stevie | d03boy: LANG=en_US dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 03:34.22 | george_ | initrd-tools :) |
| 03:34.32 | george_ | !info initrd-tools sarge |
| 03:34.33 | umeboshi | george_, you don't really need mkinitrd if you compileyour own kernel and compile the ide drivers straight in |
| 03:34.34 | dpkg | initrd-tools: (tools to create initrd image for prepackaged Linux kernel), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.1.81.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
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| 03:34.55 | george_ | !depends initrd-tools sarge |
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| 03:34.58 | dpkg | initrd-tools: depends on coreutils | fileutils (>= 4.1.9) | stat (>= 3.0), cpio, cramfsprogs (>= 1.1-4), dash, util-linux (>= 2.11b-3) |
| 03:35.03 | umeboshi | else mkinitrd makes a temporary rootfs to load the ide modules then mount the real root |
| 03:35.09 | d03boy | Stevie, same type of errors |
| 03:35.13 | george_ | !depends initrd-tools etch |
| 03:35.19 | dpkg | initrd-tools: depends on coreutils | fileutils (>= 4.1.9) | stat (>= 3.0), cpio, cramfsprogs (>= 1.1-4), dash, util-linux (>= 2.11b-3) |
| 03:35.25 | Stevie | you did the LANG=en_US initially? |
| 03:35.30 | d03boy | oh wait |
| 03:35.36 | Stevie | :) |
| 03:35.43 | curt | george_, /msg dpkg ,.stuff |
| 03:35.44 | umeboshi | george_, if you are only managing a few machines, it would probably be easier for you to compile your own kernel |
| 03:35.48 | george_ | heyy :) that could wokr :) |
| 03:35.49 | d03boy | still have errors, but now its different |
| 03:35.59 | Stevie | that's promising |
| 03:36.32 | george_ | I was expecting a long twisty chain of deps, some different, some alike |
| 03:36.41 | d03boy | Stevie, actually no... I think it is the same :P |
| 03:36.44 | curt | d03boy, might be easier to apt-get remove --purge locales and then apt-get install locales |
| 03:36.49 | Stevie | You are in a maze of twisty little deps, all alike. |
| 03:36.57 | umeboshi | george_, the problem with new kernels and mkinitrd is more subtle |
| 03:36.59 | george_ | !info initrd-tools etch |
| 03:37.02 | dpkg | initrd-tools: (tools to create initrd image for prepackaged Linux kernel), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.1.84 (etch), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 180 kB |
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| 03:37.34 | umeboshi | i've had problems in the past when using an old mkinitrd on a newer kernel-source package using kernel-package |
| 03:37.37 | d03boy | Stevie, http://pastebin.com/606799 -- i'll try the purge thing |
| 03:37.50 | george_ | so it is a different version but it depends on exactly the same things |
| 03:38.09 | Stevie | aha! |
| 03:38.15 | Stevie | d03boy: hold off on that for a moment |
| 03:38.20 | d03boy | Stevie, ok |
| 03:38.32 | Stevie | unset LANGUAGE |
| 03:38.41 | umeboshi | george_, yes it's probably very easy to backport quickly |
| 03:38.41 | Stevie | (that's the exact command) |
| 03:38.49 | Stevie | then do the LANG=en_US yadda yadda |
| 03:38.57 | curt | i think there is a way to export LC_ALL i just don't remember it. |
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| 03:39.13 | Stevie | err, wait, hm, I have LANGUAGE too |
| 03:39.14 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | NOTE: this is NOT #ubuntu. | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: sid, etch and /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java |
| 03:39.17 | george_ | I like making initrd kernels... means I can take an existing kernel source and use the existing .config and add what I need without thinking about anything else |
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| 03:39.22 | dondelelcaro | diff: debate has already occured |
| 03:39.27 | Stevie | wait, what just changed in the topic? |
| 03:39.35 | Stevie | oh |
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| 03:39.43 | rolo | i got a winzipped file .... how do i extract the files from it on linux ? |
| 03:39.50 | dondelelcaro | rolo: with unzip |
| 03:39.50 | Stevie | apt-get install zip |
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| 03:39.55 | umeboshi | george_, I agree, but i also manage many different machines, so i already needed to take the time |
| 03:40.06 | powder | Is it normal to receive this message when running a program as root? http://pastebin.com/606789 |
| 03:40.14 | rolo | dondelelcar: do you know of a gui program for that ? |
| 03:40.15 | Stevie | hey d03boy |
| 03:40.19 | d03boy | ahoy |
| 03:40.25 | Stevie | try this: /usr/sbin/locale-gen |
| 03:40.47 | d03boy | k |
| 03:40.50 | george_ | learn your SHELL |
| 03:40.54 | Jarryd | So anyone care to troubleshoot my NIC issue with the netinst ? |
| 03:41.06 | george_ | there, I've been helpful :P |
| 03:41.16 | Stevie | Jarryd: Is the cable plugged in? |
| 03:41.19 | Pollywog | jarry which card do you have is it an onboard? |
| 03:41.23 | umeboshi | george_, it is a worthy investment to understand how to use the initrd, as the pxeinstaller and small rescue images can be made with a initrd, and the real root can even be mounted interactively |
| 03:41.33 | Jarryd | It's the integrated nic of the nForce4 mobo. |
| 03:41.41 | Pollywog | o |
| 03:41.47 | george_ | well here's my app: |
| 03:41.58 | Stevie | what are the vendor/product codes? |
| 03:41.59 | d03boy | Stevie, is that all I need to do? |
| 03:42.01 | Stevie | Jarryd? |
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| 03:42.06 | Stevie | d03boy: Did you do that? |
| 03:42.10 | Stevie | what did it say? |
| 03:42.32 | Pollywog | when I had an oddball mobo nic I had to install a cheap card to get started |
| 03:42.32 | d03boy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:42.32 | d03boy | Generation complete. |
| 03:42.33 | dondelelcaro | rolo: there may be some, but you really shouldn't need them. |
| 03:42.35 | Jarryd | basically it loads the forcedeth driver and then fails to actually connect to my network |
| 03:42.38 | pjv | how do i make xvidcap record the whole screen? |
| 03:42.58 | george_ | I got a laptop (dell inspiron 5100) running win xp (and no, I'm not changing that, as much as I'd otherwise want to) and I just bought a 250g sata drive I slapped into a esata/usb2 case |
| 03:42.59 | Pollywog | once I had all of Debian installed I was able to compile a new kernel to get thje mobo one working |
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| 03:43.07 | Stevie | d03boy: now what does 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' do? |
| 03:43.24 | george_ | right now my app is to try booting the laptop from the dribve |
| 03:43.41 | Stevie | Jarryd: what does mii-tool say? |
| 03:43.42 | d03boy | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed |
| 03:43.50 | d03boy | ^ for stevie |
| 03:43.55 | george_ | after that, I want to use the drive as ntfs storage and lvs storage |
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| 03:44.01 | Stevie | okay, that's a new one |
| 03:44.09 | Stevie | I have no idea how to fix that, but someone else here might. |
| 03:44.12 | george_ | lvm that is |
| 03:44.24 | curt | d03boy, did you check the bts for kdevelop3-data? |
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| 03:44.45 | d03boy | curt, I dont know |
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| 03:44.50 | redblade | Hi, I just installed bittorrent, but I don't know where it went! |
| 03:44.59 | redblade | I used the apt-get method |
| 03:45.17 | george_ | I guess I could try the latest sarge kernel on the laptop on the off chance it might work... what is that, 2.6.8? .11? |
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| 03:45.37 | d03boy | redblade, go to a bittorrent link in your browser and it should appear magically |
| 03:46.03 | curt | redblade, dpkg -L bittorrent |
| 03:46.03 | rbd | I set up a debian testing box, and have statically configured two interfaces (with a 10.1.18.xx address assigned to the first, and 1.1.1.1 assigned to the second (sniffing interface))...however ifconfig shows both of them having a 169.254.xxx range address. why is this? (it seems the true address is what I assigned as I can still access the lan and the internet) |
| 03:46.09 | george_ | in other news... I got a sata card based on a Silicon Image 3112 chip... what's the earliest kernel that supports that? |
| 03:46.11 | Pollywog | what is the update-alternatives command to change the wm? |
| 03:46.24 | umeboshi | 2.6.8 |
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| 03:46.47 | george_ | 2.6.8 will support that chipset? |
| 03:46.51 | george_ | cool :) |
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| 03:47.21 | george_ | I think this desktop is running 2.6.11 |
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| 03:47.23 | umeboshi | george_, i was stating the sarge kernel version |
| 03:47.25 | umeboshi | sorry |
| 03:47.30 | george_ | oh, ok |
| 03:47.44 | george_ | well questions stands back up then :) |
| 03:47.52 | rakslice | rbd: that's... strange. |
| 03:47.58 | chealer9 | Pollywog: try # update-alternatives --config x-session-manager |
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| 03:48.13 | Pollywog | chealer9: ty |
| 03:48.21 | tyler | can mplayer play asx file? |
| 03:48.26 | redblade | Well okay thanks, oh and is there a bittorrent client already in KDE? |
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| 03:48.42 | george_ | jim: why is tyler repeating? |
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| 03:49.25 | Jarryd | is there anyway to install the nvidia binary drivers for my nForce during the netinst? |
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| 03:49.31 | pubkey | I am getting package from debian but _not_ ftp.nerim.net. I am getting a "public key is not available" message _only_ from ftp.netrim.net - anyone know what to do about the public key problem with netrim? |
| 03:49.37 | pipeline | Jarryd: Not practically, no. |
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| 03:49.42 | Pollywog | jarry I don't think so, I wish there were |
| 03:49.46 | pipeline | pubkey: Read marillat's homepage. |
| 03:49.51 | powder | anyone have a debian package for the audacious-docklet ? |
| 03:49.55 | pubkey | pipeline: tnx |
| 03:50.21 | Jarryd | so I'm basically going to have to either do a base install from CD and then install the drivers or throw in another NIC? |
| 03:50.21 | d03boy | everyone gave up on me again :\ |
| 03:50.32 | Pollywog | I also have to install nvidia and I will need to get the tutorial |
| 03:50.40 | Pollywog | so I don't forget something |
| 03:50.44 | oswaldo | hello, i wanna help for sid backport |
| 03:50.59 | curt | d03boy, might be easier to apt-get remove --purge locales and then apt-get install locales |
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| 03:51.36 | george_ | you are root... there's the door... |
| 03:51.37 | d03boy | well |
| 03:51.38 | d03boy | wtf |
| 03:51.44 | curt | d03boy, you might have to do the same thing with kdevelop3-data |
| 03:51.46 | george_ | you're too much access to ignore... |
| 03:51.46 | d03boy | it wont let me do shit with apt-get because of the damn error I keep getting |
| 03:52.02 | cougar` | Hey all, How do I search current active ipTables rules? |
| 03:52.09 | cougar` | I forget |
| 03:52.12 | Pollywog | iptables -L |
| 03:52.19 | cougar` | Doh! |
| 03:52.23 | cougar` | Wow I should sleep! |
| 03:52.26 | george_ | search? I guess you'd get a listing of rules and then use grep |
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| 03:52.31 | jugglinx | d03boy, yep, locales are a serious prob... :-/ |
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| 03:52.39 | TheBest | me Guru ..ask :) |
| 03:52.43 | d03boy | well i'm a serious semi-noob |
| 03:52.48 | d03boy | i dont mix well with serious problems |
| 03:52.50 | curt | d03boy, apt-get remove gives you errors? |
| 03:52.53 | george_ | Guru: how do you spel guru? |
| 03:53.22 | cougar` | Anyone here familiar with PeerGuardian? |
| 03:53.26 | d03boy | curt gives me dependency errors |
| 03:53.29 | Pollywog | I have been a noob for 9 yrs |
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| 03:53.41 | george_ | me guru you janeru? |
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| 03:55.10 | redblade | I really can't find bittorrent! All these other files are just refering to it but I don't know where it is! |
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| 03:55.25 | curt | d03boy, I only show locales and localization-config as remove depends if thats the case remove --purge them both and then install them again. |
| 03:55.28 | Aghaster | redblade: download azureus... |
| 03:55.33 | dondelelcaro | redblade: you want rtorrent or similar. |
| 03:55.34 | oswaldo | i am trying use msg dpkg for sid backport, someone knows what are the words |
| 03:55.36 | jugglinx | d03boy, im a noob too, but i think u should try reconfigure locales... maybe some of the guys knows the exact command |
| 03:55.41 | dondelelcaro | !simple sid backport |
| 03:55.42 | dpkg | methinks simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 03:55.43 | george_ | HEY!! stop touching my eyebrow! |
| 03:56.04 | Pollywog | dpkg-configure locales ? |
| 03:56.05 | curt | george_, stop trolling. |
| 03:56.56 | george_ | don't talk to me |
| 03:56.58 | curt | Pollywog, gives him >locales is broken or not fully installed |
| 03:57.07 | Pollywog | oic |
| 03:57.10 | curt | dondelelcaro, george_ is a troll |
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| 03:57.18 | d03boy | curt, well the dependnecy is kdevelop3-data |
| 03:57.29 | d03boy | thats where my initial problem began... I wanted to install kdevelop3 |
| 03:57.38 | billatq | Oh, come now, he only said something in response to a comment I made |
| 03:57.46 | george_ | in what way am I hurting anything? |
| 03:57.56 | curt | apt-get remove --purge locales kdevelop3-data |
| 03:57.58 | Pollywog | does aptitude allow installation of packages by task? |
| 03:58.14 | Pollywog | say if I want development packages... can it do that? |
| 03:58.16 | powder | george_, you're being annoying |
| 03:58.25 | d03boy | Package kdevelop3-data is not installed, so not removed |
| 03:58.30 | george_ | whatever. |
| 03:58.33 | d03boy | this is so effing confusing |
| 03:58.47 | curt | d03boy, but locales was right? |
| 03:58.56 | d03boy | curt, it didnt say anything at all about locales |
| 03:58.58 | Pollywog | george you can go to #flood and do that |
| 03:59.03 | jugglinx | d03boy, sorry i ask, but are you actually using debian? |
| 03:59.06 | george_ | do what? |
| 03:59.10 | d03boy | jugglinx, yes....................... |
| 03:59.16 | curt | d03boy, nothiong about purging config files etc etc |
| 03:59.21 | d03boy | curt, nothing at all |
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| 03:59.25 | billatq | Geez, some people sure are touchy |
| 03:59.33 | Pollywog | what about reinstalling locales? |
| 03:59.44 | Pollywog | apt-get install --reinstall locales |
| 03:59.50 | george_ | exactly. next thing you know mob mentality will take over |
| 04:00.01 | Pollywog | would that get rid of the problems? |
| 04:00.06 | powder | what packages will i need to install in order to able to compile? |
| 04:00.07 | jugglinx | d03boy, ok, sorry, i use to have that problem tons of times with another distro... that s why i ask... sorry again |
| 04:00.13 | d03boy | jugglinx, no porb |
| 04:00.20 | curt | Pollywog, some of the package is missing or miconfigured. |
| 04:00.26 | george_ | powder: build-essential :P |
| 04:00.35 | d03boy | when I reinstall the locales, it gives me absolutely nothing except the usual (Rebuilding pkg list... and some dependency crap about kdevelop3-data |
| 04:00.51 | Pollywog | and apt-get -f install? |
| 04:00.59 | d03boy | Pollywog, tried that.. i'll try again |
| 04:01.01 | powder | george_, I know about that one but aren't there a few others that are necessary? |
| 04:01.30 | d03boy | I get an error when I do apt-get -f install |
| 04:01.35 | george_ | look into it before asking; that way we can really talk when you know more |
| 04:01.36 | Pollywog | mob mentality has certain dependencies we can't meet, George |
| 04:02.00 | george_ | debian has a dependency database; my hint to you is you view it |
| 04:02.13 | curt | george_, or why don't you /join 127.0.0.1 |
| 04:02.52 | billatq | curt, Pollywog: Honestly, your retorts to george are worse than his original comment--you should really stop |
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| 04:03.30 | george_ | powder: the question is, necessary for what specific type of programming or area? look into build-essential and see if it meets your needs |
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| 04:03.50 | george_ | maybe you already have it installed |
| 04:04.04 | george_ | if that's the case, then what else do you need? |
| 04:04.11 | Pollywog | billatq: okay I will stop |
| 04:04.52 | Stevie | d03boy: apt-get --reinstall install foo |
| 04:05.03 | d03boy | foo? |
| 04:05.08 | george_ | really, we need to know what you want to do -specifically- |
| 04:05.34 | Stevie | well, whatever package you want |
| 04:05.43 | george_ | because there are -thousands- of packages that support programming in one form or another |
| 04:05.43 | Stevie | !foo |
| 04:05.44 | dpkg | it has been said that foo is the first metasyntactic variable, it's a placeholder for some other term. See <http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/foo.html> and <bar> |
| 04:05.49 | d03boy | ya |
| 04:05.53 | d03boy | i figured that, just wasnt sure |
| 04:05.59 | d03boy | the problem is that I dont knwo what I want |
| 04:06.04 | Stevie | locales, I think |
| 04:06.07 | george_ | ahhhh' |
| 04:06.15 | george_ | now we're getting somewhere :) |
| 04:06.30 | d03boy | apt-get is completely ignoring my commands |
| 04:06.38 | d03boy | it just keeps bitching about that stupid kdevelop3 and kdevelop3-data |
| 04:06.47 | d03boy | its like a damn infinity loop |
| 04:06.56 | Stevie | when it does that I don't know how to fix it |
| 04:07.07 | george_ | so you have your choice... you can talk to us or anyone really about what interests you... you can try something and then try something else (repeat too), |
| 04:07.11 | d03boy | how can I get rid of kdevelop? |
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| 04:07.25 | d03boy | i need to force it |
| 04:07.28 | d03boy | or something |
| 04:07.34 | Gnea | !beer #debian |
| 04:07.34 | george_ | force? why? |
| 04:07.42 | jetscreamer | man dpkg |
| 04:07.45 | d03boy | george_, if you have a better idea let me know |
| 04:07.47 | Pollywog | apt-get remove kdevelop |
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| 04:08.04 | george_ | well not yet because I'm not sure what you want to do... |
| 04:08.06 | EleckttrusS | d03boy, aptitude remove kdevelop |
| 04:08.09 | george_ | let me ask you this... |
| 04:08.09 | d03boy | like I just said, any apt-get install/remove command results in it bitching about the kdevelop3 dependency even if its not even related |
| 04:08.22 | george_ | are you taking any school courses? |
| 04:08.29 | EleckttrusS | d03boy, aptitude is your new god! |
| 04:08.40 | Pollywog | d03boy: you might try installing a fake kdevelop package |
| 04:08.42 | GaiaX11 | What time is there? |
| 04:08.45 | Pollywog | then you can remove it |
| 04:08.54 | d03boy | lol |
| 04:09.00 | jetscreamer | man dpkg |
| 04:09.02 | d03boy | aptitude, didnt even think of that |
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| 04:09.06 | Pollywog | I have done that when in the predicament you have |
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| 04:09.08 | EleckttrusS | ?= |
| 04:09.12 | jetscreamer | why would aptitude work |
| 04:09.15 | EleckttrusS | sorry |
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| 04:09.26 | george_ | if so... then you could play with stuff that supports or is otherwise related to what you're doing in school |
| 04:09.35 | EleckttrusS | aptitude is a real power! |
| 04:09.36 | Pollywog | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:10.14 | okaratas | hello |
| 04:10.53 | d03boy | i think aptitude is fixing it all |
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| 04:12.11 | okaratas | are you there dondelelcaro ? |
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| 04:14.07 | jetscreamer | no he's in the other channel :) |
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| 04:14.45 | streuner | !ask |
| 04:14.46 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 04:16.47 | d03boy | does aptitutde use my sources.list? |
| 04:16.54 | Stevie | yes |
| 04:17.02 | Stevie | but only if you spell it correctly |
| 04:17.13 | d03boy | fuzzy logic |
| 04:17.15 | d03boy | so its ok |
| 04:17.49 | george_ | what's the difference between kernel-source and kernel-tree packages? |
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| 04:18.46 | george_ | what's the correct kernel arch for p4 (that is, other than i386) |
| 04:18.53 | dondelelcaro | okaratas: ? |
| 04:18.58 | d03boy | i686? |
| 04:19.07 | streuner | george_: /msg dpkg 686 |
| 04:20.08 | jetscreamer | you probably don't want the kernel tree, and the kernel-source is to build a kernel with |
| 04:20.49 | george_ | why are there so few kernel-image-2.6.8-11* packages? |
| 04:21.00 | Stevie | nobody uses a kernel that old, man |
| 04:21.08 | Stevie | that's like, a month ago |
| 04:21.19 | george_ | well |
| 04:21.19 | d03boy | aptitude is hard to use |
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| 04:21.27 | Stevie | you want 2.7.3-r1 |
| 04:21.28 | george_ | you'll get used to it |
| 04:21.29 | jetscreamer | that's so last month... |
| 04:21.36 | streuner | george_: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
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| 04:22.07 | george_ | I'll do that in the chroot |
| 04:22.16 | streuner | george_: if you running sarge/stable just add backports.org to your sources.list (/msg dpkg backports) |
| 04:22.22 | streuner | oh |
| 04:22.24 | d03boy | i cant get used to aptitutude if i dont know how it works |
| 04:22.25 | d03boy | lol |
| 04:22.41 | george_ | umm :) you really don't want me to flood all that do you? :) |
| 04:22.54 | george_ | it's more than 24 lines |
| 04:22.56 | streuner | no, only 2 lines |
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| 04:23.20 | streuner | 24 lines, interesting, just show it in paster bot (/msg dpkg paste) |
| 04:23.29 | jetscreamer | man aptitude |
| 04:23.33 | sanmarcos | > anybody know of a good tv watching software that supports mpeg2 encoder cards (ivtv), other than mythtv and mplayer/xine? |
| 04:23.41 | george_ | the chroot says ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
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| 04:23.54 | george_ | for the thing to the left of the && |
| 04:24.09 | streuner | george_: just add backports.org to your sources.list (/msg dpkg backports) |
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| 04:24.52 | streuner | and follow instructions at there website, run |
| 04:24.56 | george_ | wait, ok, I get it... this irc client doesn't cut well |
| 04:25.35 | george_ | ok, to the left of the && is: 500 http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu sarge/main Packages |
| 04:26.54 | d03boy | aptitude is my new friend if this works |
| 04:27.13 | george_ | streuner: so if I do that, what, that would allow me newer kernels or the ability to build them too? |
| 04:27.13 | paulproteus | sanmarcos: Does tvtime? |
| 04:27.22 | sanmarcos | paulproteus: it doesnt suppor tmpeg2 |
| 04:27.32 | paulproteus | sanmarcos: There's a KDE TV playing program, too, that my friend uses. I don't know if it supports MPEG2 cards, though. |
| 04:27.35 | streuner | george_: number 1 of your question |
| 04:27.36 | george_ | I'm absolutely comfortable with either |
| 04:27.41 | streuner | ok |
| 04:27.41 | paulproteus | mplayer/xine frontends also might, like kaffeine. |
| 04:27.51 | sanmarcos | paulproteus: mplayer sucks for tv |
| 04:27.57 | paulproteus | kaffeine is a xine frontend. |
| 04:27.58 | d03boy | well... kdevelop3-data still wont install |
| 04:28.02 | d03boy | using aptitutde |
| 04:28.08 | sanmarcos | paulproteus: its tv abstraction doesnt support mpeg2 ivtv |
| 04:28.10 | paulproteus | d03boy: pastebin the errors |
| 04:28.11 | streuner | george_: get some experience first, before you try to build a kernel... |
| 04:28.18 | sanmarcos | paulproteus: im stuck using myth shit, fucking hell |
| 04:28.28 | george_ | been building kernels since 1994 :P |
| 04:28.44 | streuner | !tell george_ about kp |
| 04:28.45 | pipeline | george_: Yeah, well, it's not 1994 any more. |
| 04:28.51 | pipeline | george_: Building your own kernel is a waste of time. |
| 04:28.54 | Supaplex | george_: that's one long compile time. |
| 04:28.58 | pipeline | george_: I haven't built a kernel in nearly two years. |
| 04:29.01 | paulproteus | lol, Supaplex. |
| 04:29.09 | george_ | I don't mind, and I get what I want |
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| 04:29.25 | streuner | george_: read newbiedoc.sf.net KERNEL-HOWTO for building debian kernels |
| 04:29.33 | d03boy | paulproteus, http://pastebin.com/606853 |
| 04:29.44 | Supaplex | Where can I get sarge/postgresql-pl? No candidate version found for postgresql-pl while attempting to install :-/ |
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| 04:29.52 | george_ | however in this particular case I agree with you since my goal is to create a demoer machine |
| 04:30.12 | george_ | I been using kp for quite awhile too |
| 04:30.16 | sanmarcos | fuck this shit |
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| 04:30.34 | Supaplex | !fuck sanmarcos's shit |
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| 04:30.47 | Pollywog | oh my |
| 04:30.51 | sanmarcos | Supaplex: stfu nigger |
| 04:30.53 | Pollywog | such language |
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| 04:31.12 | waltz | oh my FGOD! |
| 04:31.19 | AlienX | man, someone's asking to get banned |
| 04:31.26 | Supaplex | must of been something i said. ;) |
| 04:31.31 | paulproteus | d03boy: What distro? |
| 04:31.39 | paulproteus | I mean, what version. |
| 04:31.48 | d03boy | paulproteus, it was sarge but I recently changed it to testing |
| 04:32.03 | d03boy | after changing to testing all this crap happened when I tried to install kdevelop |
| 04:32.05 | streuner | george_: your questions confusing me more and more |
| 04:32.10 | waltz | people like that shouldn't be using Linux |
| 04:32.26 | streuner | george_: what's your question then? |
| 04:32.27 | Pollywog | I was thinking the same thing |
| 04:32.32 | paulproteus | Works for me fine here in Sid, at least. |
| 04:32.39 | Pollywog | they should use MS Windows |
| 04:32.39 | paulproteus | Let me look a little closer at your pastebin. |
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| 04:32.46 | waltz | Pollywog, yep, hehe |
| 04:33.01 | AlienX | i got excited because I saw new gnome packages in unstable but much to my dismay, it wasn't for 2.14 :( |
| 04:33.19 | george_ | streuner: I'm trying to debootstrap, it's almost done... I just gotta pick a kernel, and I'm likely to pick the 2.6.8 one so I don't have to deal with sata issues... |
| 04:33.20 | george_ | but |
| 04:33.36 | streuner | it doesn't work? |
| 04:33.55 | george_ | do I need to get a later kernel for Silicon Image 3112 chipset? |
| 04:34.00 | paulproteus | d03boy: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=kdelibs-data&version=testing&arch=all&page=1&number=all |
| 04:34.06 | paulproteus | This claims that the two do in fact conflict. |
| 04:34.19 | streuner | george_: most SATA chipsets are supported by newer kernels... |
| 04:34.35 | streuner | george_: so its likely that you need one |
| 04:34.46 | paulproteus | d03boy: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=kdevelop3-data&version=unstable&arch=all&page=1&number=all claims it's not in kdevelop3-data anymore. |
| 04:34.47 | d03boy | paulproteus, kdelibs? |
| 04:34.53 | d03boy | hmm |
| 04:34.58 | paulproteus | d03boy: Here's my suggestion. |
| 04:35.02 | paulproteus | cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 04:35.13 | paulproteus | dpkg -i --force-overwrite kdevelop3-data*deb |
| 04:35.17 | george_ | yes, I'm aware of that part.... but Silicon Image is known to be friendly toward developers... prog info freely available for that chipset |
| 04:35.20 | streuner | george_: use /msg dpkg driver locator |
| 04:35.28 | cougar` | Okay, how do I use a link that looks like this. deb http://mitglied.lycos.de/clessing/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 04:35.39 | cougar` | http://forums.phoenixlabs.org/t11294-repackaging-pg-for-debian.html |
| 04:35.42 | paulproteus | d03boy: It'll get fixed in a later version of kdevelop3-data; the conflicting file seems to have been removed in sid. |
| 04:35.47 | streuner | george_: and groups.google.com to find out which kernel you need in order to run that chipset then |
| 04:35.50 | paulproteus | d03boy: So this hack to install the package for now seems okay. |
| 04:36.08 | Pollywog | so there is no 2.6.11 kernel for Debian? |
| 04:36.13 | george_ | streuner: would I have to post a message there? |
| 04:36.26 | deadcat | !archive george_ |
| 04:36.29 | streuner | george_: no, you can just search there |
| 04:36.29 | duplex | Pollywog: You can compile your own and make a .deb for it. |
| 04:36.34 | d03boy | paulproteus, ok check thsi out |
| 04:36.36 | george_ | Pollywog: not sarge except by backport |
| 04:36.37 | cougar` | How the heck.... |
| 04:36.42 | paulproteus | d03boy: Okay...? |
| 04:36.48 | george_ | ok |
| 04:36.51 | Pollywog | Duplex: you mean from kernel.org? |
| 04:36.58 | duplex | Pollywog: Yep. |
| 04:37.00 | d03boy | paulproteus, http://pastebin.com/606860 |
| 04:37.14 | Pollywog | don't I need source that has Debian patches? |
| 04:37.20 | duplex | Pollywog: You can download the source and compile it and make it a .deb |
| 04:37.30 | Pollywog | but |
| 04:37.31 | Pollywog | don't I need source that has Debian patches? |
| 04:37.49 | george_ | Pollywog: that would be a good idea, but it's not strictly necessary (except in certain limited cases) |
| 04:37.50 | streuner | george_: well kmuto also brings happieness to debian folks, he made sarge/stable installer with newer kernels |
| 04:37.53 | paulproteus | d03boy: Notice that the package installed. |
| 04:37.55 | duplex | You don't *need* them.... |
| 04:37.59 | paulproteus | Now do the aptitude install kdevelop3. |
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| 04:38.05 | Pollywog | because my system uses mkinitrd |
| 04:38.07 | duplex | Pollywog: I'm running a custom kernel. |
| 04:38.14 | duplex | And I'm using sid. |
| 04:38.23 | d03boy | paulproteus, aw, thanks buddy :) |
| 04:38.28 | d03boy | you're the new smart guy here |
| 04:38.29 | paulproteus | d03boy: Did that fix it? |
| 04:38.56 | d03boy | ya |
| 04:39.03 | paulproteus | Kick-ass. (-: |
| 04:39.04 | d03boy | i think |
| 04:39.13 | george_ | streuner: ok, some more details: you know I got a portable drive? I bought a 250g sata drive and an enclosure that does esata and usb2 |
| 04:39.15 | d03boy | yep, seems to work |
| 04:39.20 | paulproteus | Great! (-: |
| 04:39.30 | chealer9 | Pollywog: I've been following loosely, but why do you want a 2.6.11 kernel? |
| 04:39.35 | deadcat | yay (= |
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| 04:39.51 | Pollywog | well I have been hearing that 2.6.8 is too old |
| 04:40.03 | chealer9 | Pollywog: too old for what? |
| 04:40.04 | george_ | old doesn't mean doesn't work |
| 04:40.09 | deadcat | if it works. dont worry aboutatit |
| 04:40.20 | Pollywog | and if I use 2.6.11 I can use my old config file from Xandros :) |
| 04:40.33 | george_ | you could do that yes |
| 04:40.46 | chealer9 | Pollywog: so you would also use a custom kernel? :/ |
| 04:40.47 | george_ | who is Xandros?? is she cute? |
| 04:40.54 | paulproteus | Pollywog: You could also use a Xandros kernel! (-: |
| 04:40.58 | Pollywog | yes a custom |
| 04:41.09 | streuner | !xandros |
| 04:41.09 | dpkg | well, xandros is a crappy Operating System that _they_ should support... I even think it runs as root. at http://www.xandros.com/ |
| 04:41.10 | chealer9 | Pollywog: did you already compile a kernel? |
| 04:41.31 | Pollywog | I might not need to do this if everything works with the stock kernel and I have compiled kernels before |
| 04:41.55 | chealer9 | Pollywog: so what specific problem do you expect with 2.6.8? |
| 04:41.56 | Supaplex | where is postgresql-pl (pl/perl)? aptitude shows it's a virtual package, but says no available canidate is available for install. |
| 04:41.57 | Pollywog | if sound works, etv |
| 04:41.59 | Pollywog | etc |
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| 04:42.15 | duplex | Pollywog: Why exactly do you want 2.6.11? I just check the repositories and there's a package for 2.6.15, at least in the sid repositories. |
| 04:42.19 | Pollywog | chealer9: I was told that the older kernels have some security issues |
| 04:42.33 | Pollywog | duplex: k |
| 04:42.34 | Pollywog | ty |
| 04:42.39 | chealer9 | Pollywog: 2.6.11 certainly has as much security issues as Sarge's 2.6.8 |
| 04:42.45 | Pollywog | k |
| 04:42.53 | duplex | linux-source-2.6.15 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Debian patches |
| 04:42.53 | paulproteus | Pollywog: Also, Debian issues security update kernels with backported patches. |
| 04:42.57 | Pollywog | I will keep 2.6.8 then |
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| 04:43.14 | paulproteus | Pollywog: If you want a fairly-tested newer kernel, try the Debian Testing kernels. |
| 04:43.21 | paulproteus | Testing even has a security team now. |
| 04:43.29 | george_ | different subject... when the lvm people went to device-mapper, does that mean that any device-mapper will hook onto any lvm vol? they keep that transparent? |
| 04:43.38 | benoitc | hi all, I've this error with postfix : arning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling |
| 04:43.42 | benoitc | any id ? |
| 04:43.49 | duplex | paulproteus: What's the "debian testing" kernels? What do you mean by that? |
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| 04:43.55 | benoitc | what's going on ? |
| 04:44.00 | Pollywog | let's see if Debian sees an external drive |
| 04:44.02 | paulproteus | duplex: I mean the kernels in the Testing branch of Debian. |
| 04:44.13 | paulproteus | "etch" |
| 04:44.28 | Nz17 | Would someone be kind enough to point me towards information on why my laptop (running Etch) freezes when I attempted to use the function keys? |
| 04:44.36 | streuner | hardware issues are likely Kernel issues... |
| 04:44.43 | george_ | benoitc: sounds like it can't start because it's not set up properly... more details not available without more details from you :) |
| 04:44.58 | duplex | paulproteus: ah okay the kernels in the etch repositories.... I thought you meant like experimental kernels, kinda like the old 2.5 series. |
| 04:45.19 | paulproteus | duplex: The current "experimental kernels" are Linus's 2.6 releases! (-: |
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| 04:45.58 | duplex | paulproteus: I know, that's why I was asking :-/ |
| 04:45.59 | Stevie | hey... what's the grep command you can use to determine what kernel version a particular vmlinuz is? |
| 04:46.08 | Pollywog | nope, Debian is not seeing the external drive so I think I might need to recompile the kernel |
| 04:46.25 | george_ | Stevie: for debian kernels, just look in /boot |
| 04:46.37 | Stevie | it's not in the context of an installed system |
| 04:47.00 | benoitc | george_, mmm k |
| 04:47.08 | benoitc | let me see how to have more details so |
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| 04:48.10 | maher | Stevie: is it a symlink? ls -l will tell you, otherwise use strings |
| 04:48.37 | thomb | I'm installing sarge on a new system, and I get "GRUB Loading stage1.5." in an infinite loop when the new system tries to boot the first time. |
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| 04:48.40 | thomb | Any thoughts? |
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| 04:49.18 | paulproteus | thomb: The hard drive might be set to LBA mode or LRG mode (etc.) in the BIOS. |
| 04:49.24 | paulproteus | thomb: If possible, set it to AUTO. |
| 04:49.38 | paulproteus | thomb: If that doesn't work, try LBA and LRG ("LARGE") and any other choices you have. |
| 04:49.46 | Pollywog | should I install discover... will that help detection of USB drives? |
| 04:49.55 | Pollywog | or does hotplug suffice? |
| 04:50.24 | george_ | benoitc: that's my best guess based on the message you got... once you get more details, you'll need someone familiar with that software, which I'm not |
| 04:50.29 | thomb | paulproteus: let me check |
| 04:50.51 | paulproteus | thomb: That's all the advice I have on this topic, I'm afraid, and I'm going to sleep. |
| 04:51.19 | maher | Pollywog: what are you doing? do you have an installed system? |
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| 04:51.34 | Pollywog | yes I just instgalled a sarge system |
| 04:51.42 | thomb | paulproteus: hrm, that doesn't seem to be it, but let me poke around. gnight. |
| 04:51.45 | Pollywog | it was Xandros |
| 04:51.51 | Pollywog | now Debian sarge |
| 04:51.58 | maher | Pollywog: did you do a fresh install? |
| 04:52.02 | george_ | Luther Xandros? |
| 04:52.05 | Pollywog | yes |
| 04:52.21 | maher | Pollywog: and you have an external drive which doesn't work? |
| 04:52.38 | Pollywog | it is detected on another xandros system |
| 04:52.45 | Pollywog | but not on Debian |
| 04:53.00 | Pollywog | and it was detected on this machine on Xandros |
| 04:53.04 | deadcat | try #xandros please |
| 04:53.07 | Pollywog | no |
| 04:53.10 | maher | Pollywog: what kernel |
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| 04:53.14 | Pollywog | it is a debian system now |
| 04:53.21 | Pollywog | 2.6.8 |
| 04:53.36 | maher | Pollywog: do you have hotplug installed? |
| 04:53.38 | george_ | but is that any particular problem? |
| 04:53.45 | Pollywog | yes hotplug is installed |
| 04:53.50 | maher | Pollywog: is it usb |
| 04:53.55 | Pollywog | yes usb |
| 04:54.02 | maher | Pollywog: does it show up in lsusb |
| 04:54.07 | Pollywog | I think I need to edit fstab |
| 04:54.12 | Pollywog | let me check |
| 04:54.35 | Pollywog | yes |
| 04:54.47 | Pollywog | it shows as an external drive |
| 04:55.13 | Pollywog | but not in file manager |
| 04:55.24 | maher | Pollywog: ok - that means it should work - you just need to know what its called - try cat /proc/partitions |
| 04:55.29 | Pollywog | k |
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| 04:55.54 | Pollywog | looks like it is sda1 |
| 04:56.23 | Pollywog | I think I need to put that in fstab |
| 04:56.33 | george_ | see if you can mount that somewhere, like on /mnt |
| 04:56.46 | maher | Pollywog: are you using gnome or kde or something else? |
| 04:56.53 | george_ | and see by looking at the filenames if it's the right thing |
| 04:57.04 | Pollywog | kde |
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| 04:57.17 | Pollywog | kde in Sarge |
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| 04:58.05 | maher | Pollywog: ok - i don't know how to make it like it automagically for kde, but you will at least need permissions to access the device - check ls -l /dev/sda1 |
| 04:58.11 | Pollywog | anyone watching the American Inventor program? |
| 04:58.19 | Pollywog | k |
| 04:58.20 | cougar` | What's the command to remove references from the run level directories? |
| 04:58.30 | maher | cougar`: update-rc.d |
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| 04:58.48 | cougar` | How com Ie I can't remember that! |
| 04:58.57 | Pollywog | update-rc.d? |
| 04:59.11 | Pollywog | oh someon already said it |
| 04:59.51 | Pollywog | I am going to login as root and see if it mounts |
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| 05:00.08 | maher | Pollywog: grab a root terminal... |
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| 05:00.28 | maher | Pollywog: or use su in an ordinary terminal |
| 05:00.32 | Pollywog | dang kde will not let me login as root, I will need to fix that |
| 05:00.38 | cleit0n | how i do to work? error while loading shared libraries: libtk8.3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 05:00.40 | maher | Pollywog: feature not bug |
| 05:00.46 | Pollywog | yes I know |
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| 05:00.53 | Pollywog | I need to fix the feature |
| 05:01.45 | maher | cleit0n: install tk8.3? |
| 05:01.51 | green_earz | cougar` here a handy intro into run levels script setup > http://www.debianhelp.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3306&theme=Printer |
| 05:01.51 | thomb | paulproteus (or anyone else): Ah, the problem is that my drives are RAID-mirrored, and grub doesn't support raid (apparently). |
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| 05:01.53 | cleit0n | maher: yes |
| 05:02.04 | cleit0n | maher: and tk8.4 too |
| 05:02.20 | cougar` | green_earz: Thanks but I'm good now. |
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| 05:03.32 | thomb | no, that's not it. |
| 05:03.33 | thomb | hrm. |
| 05:03.53 | green_earz | thomb: is it a software raid ? |
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| 05:04.24 | thomb | green_earz: It's set up to mirror in the BIOS. Not sure whether that counts as software or not. |
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| 05:04.51 | thomb | green_earz: But debian-installer seems to know about both disks when it runs, since it offers to erase both disks. |
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| 05:05.15 | VulpesFoxnik | Does any one here know how to get the webcollage xscreensaver to work? |
| 05:05.20 | iccle | i am attempting to install the unofficial Debian-AMD64 Sarge using the netinstall iso, i have a speedtouch usb dsl modem which appears to be supported, but when i enter the base install i get the message drivers/usb/misc/speedtch.c:unusable with this kernel! does anyone know of a solution to this? |
| 05:05.33 | Pollywog | okay I see the external drive now |
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| 05:06.58 | green_earz | thomb: yes it looks like its the motherboard chip thats doing the job. with a software raid its the kernel that raids the drives. |
| 05:07.24 | thomb | green_earz: right. it should be hardware raid. but then why would both disks be recognized? |
| 05:07.36 | Coweater | it's a fake raid |
| 05:07.38 | Pollywog | I get input output errors when I try to copy from the external drive and since this happened in two other systems, I think the drive is to blame |
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| 05:08.38 | thomb | Coweater: I rather doubt it. |
| 05:08.49 | Coweater | i don't |
| 05:09.10 | Pollywog | the drive was working until today |
| 05:09.15 | thomb | Coweater: do you have evidence? or something you think wolud indicate that? |
| 05:09.20 | Pollywog | and now it does this on 3 systems? |
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| 05:09.28 | thomb | Coweater: Or do you think that Tyan is lying to me? |
| 05:09.29 | Coweater | the fact that you can read both drives |
| 05:09.29 | Pollywog | I think itis the drive |
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| 05:09.42 | thomb | Coweater: that suggests to me that it's configured wrongly in the BIOS... |
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| 05:10.08 | valdyn | !sata raid |
| 05:10.08 | dpkg | The FAQ for linux SATA RAID is at http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html also a how-to for software SATA RAID can be found at http://xtronics.com/reference/SATA-RAID-debian-for-2.6.html |
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| 05:10.34 | SonnyBurnett | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.41 | thomb | valdyn: you rock |
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| 05:11.49 | iccle | does anyone have any idea why the speedtouch usb dsl modem driver preconfigured with the AMD64 sarge iso appears to be unusable with the kernel provided? |
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| 05:12.19 | LinuxNIT | what module runs Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) |
| 05:12.23 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 05:12.23 | cafuego | Burn your speedtouch usb after hitting it with a hammer |
| 05:12.46 | iccle | no choice cafuego its all i can get here |
| 05:12.57 | iccle | id prefer ethernet but there u go |
| 05:12.58 | cafuego | iccle: Surely not |
| 05:13.08 | iccle | caffei: yep im afraid so |
| 05:13.08 | cafuego | get a standalone router.modem |
| 05:13.17 | cafuego | linksys have very nice ones |
| 05:13.28 | cleit0n | how i do to work? error while loading shared libraries: libtk8.3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory? |
| 05:13.34 | Stevie | anybody got an irssi /version reply string handy? |
| 05:13.42 | dondelelcaro | Irssi: Client: irssi 0.8.10 (20051211 0941) |
| 05:13.45 | Stevie | ty |
| 05:13.52 | cafuego | LinuxNIT: snd-via82xx.ko |
| 05:13.59 | iccle | i just dont understand why the driver thats included gives the error "unusable with this kernel" |
| 05:14.02 | LinuxNIT | k thanks |
| 05:14.03 | dondelelcaro | cleit0n: that means that you're tyring to run something that linked against a library you don't already have. |
| 05:14.10 | dondelelcaro | cleit0n: aka, something that wasn't packaged for Debian. |
| 05:14.47 | cleit0n | dondelelcaro: one game, tibia.. |
| 05:14.49 | SonnyBurnett | ? |
| 05:14.50 | thomb | Coweater: ah, perhaps you were right. my apologies, and thanks for the pointers. |
| 05:15.25 | dondelelcaro | cleit0n: right, well, you don't have libtk8.3 installed. |
| 05:15.30 | dondelelcaro | !+find libtk8.3.so |
| 05:15.31 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 05:15.42 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libtk8.3.so' (2): (/usr/lib/libtk8.3.so.1) in libs/tk8.3 ;; (/usr/lib/libtk8.3.so) in devel/tk8.3-dev. |
| 05:15.52 | cleit0n | dondelelcaro: i have |
| 05:16.03 | dondelelcaro | cleit0n: dpkg -l tk8.3 |
| 05:16.12 | Stevie | hey dondelelcaro |
| 05:16.17 | dondelelcaro | (or better, dpkg -l tk8.3 tk8.3 |
| 05:16.27 | dondelelcaro | (or better, dpkg -l tk8.3 tk8.3-dev; rather.) |
| 05:16.36 | cleit0n | dondelelcaro: ii tk8.3 8.3.5-6 Tk toolkit for Tcl and X11, v8.3 - run-time files |
| 05:16.38 | Stevie | there's a way to grep a kernel image to figure out what version it is... any idea what the command is? |
| 05:17.35 | thomb | i clearly need a martini. |
| 05:17.42 | thomb | thanks for the help, those who read and replied. |
| 05:17.42 | george_ | when you look closer at grep, you see it likes text files... consisting of lines of text ending in <enter> |
| 05:18.01 | dondelelcaro | Stevie: strings on it will tell you |
| 05:18.08 | Stevie | ah yes |
| 05:18.10 | Stevie | that's what it was |
| 05:18.14 | dondelelcaro | cleit0n: and you have tk8.3-dev? |
| 05:18.51 | cleit0n | dondelelcaro: yes |
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| 05:19.17 | dondelelcaro | cleit0n: then ldd this binary, and see why it's not resolving libtk8.3.so |
| 05:19.55 | nicolas__ | what do you think of gnump3d vs. libapache-mod_musicindex ? |
| 05:20.09 | cleit0n | no.. dev no instaled.. i going now |
| 05:20.35 | deadcat | nicolas__: i use gnump3d. but i am gonna check the latter now (= |
| 05:21.10 | nicolas__ | deadcat: well im just wondering if its best to have only one daemon or two daemons but a nicer interface to mp3s |
| 05:21.39 | deadcat | nicolas__: is there a link for musicindex? |
| 05:24.10 | nicolas__ | hrm not especially |
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| 05:24.24 | nicolas__ | libapache2-mod-musicindex - Browse, stream, download and search through MP3/Ogg files |
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| 05:24.30 | nicolas__ | thats all i got |
| 05:24.42 | SonnyBurnett | I can you tell me how to move to gnome? |
| 05:24.43 | deadcat | ya. it doesnt really show how it looks like |
| 05:24.59 | deadcat | !confuse SonnyBurnett |
| 05:24.59 | dpkg | Yes, who are my badger yesterday, SonnyBurnett? trousers of the people's republic of swaziland with extra ham |
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| 05:25.44 | SonnyBurnett | deadcat: what???? I want to migrate to gnome from kde |
| 05:26.35 | deadcat | SonnyBurnett: apt-get install gdm gnome |
| 05:26.47 | nicolas__ | SonnyBurnett: apt-cache search gnome desktop, then apt-get install the most reasonable result |
| 05:27.25 | SonnyBurnett | nicolas_: what if i do apt-get install gnome |
| 05:27.41 | nicolas__ | SonnyBurnett: seems ok |
| 05:27.58 | SonnyBurnett | nicolas_: And to drop Kde? |
| 05:28.09 | SonnyBurnett | nicolas_: Or should I leave it installed |
| 05:28.11 | nicolas__ | apt-get remove k* |
| 05:28.14 | nicolas__ | ;P |
| 05:28.26 | valdyn | !remove kde |
| 05:28.26 | dpkg | hmm... remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 05:29.26 | nicolas__ | !install kde |
| 05:29.26 | dpkg | somebody said install kde was In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
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| 05:29.47 | nicolas__ | interesting |
| 05:29.51 | nicolas__ | !install gnome |
| 05:29.52 | dpkg | To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 05:30.12 | nicolas__ | dpkg is nice |
| 05:30.14 | SonnyBurnett | :o |
| 05:30.29 | nicolas__ | i would like to have it in a commandline |
| 05:31.11 | dondelelcaro | nicolas__: the factoid database is available if you want to write it |
| 05:31.13 | dondelelcaro | !your factoids |
| 05:31.13 | dpkg | My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. there is a searchable database of my factoids at http://dpkg.vireo.org/ |
| 05:31.47 | SonnyBurnett | which is more fast to use in sources.list? ftp or http reppositories? |
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| 05:32.47 | dondelelcaro | SonnyBurnett: doesn't really make much of a difference; probably http if I were to guess though. |
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| 05:34.32 | SonnyBurnett | dondelelcaro: can you recommend me a fast repositorie? |
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| 05:35.25 | nicolas__ | dondelelcaro: ohhh |
| 05:35.40 | nicolas__ | SonnyBurnett: apt-get install apt-spy |
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| 05:37.51 | SonnyBurnett | thanx |
| 05:39.32 | streuner | usually big mirrors have enough bandwidth... |
| 05:39.42 | nicolas__ | the problem with gnump3d is that its running its own server, do you think it is possible to run the same content with apache? |
| 05:39.53 | streuner | what kind of i-net connection do you have which makes you think you need apt-spy? |
| 05:40.21 | nicolas__ | i told him he needed it :P |
| 05:40.48 | streuner | Es wurden 3154kB in 16s geholt (188kB/s) |
| 05:41.38 | streuner | 13% [13 libstdc++6-4.0-dev 480669/1493kB 32%] 308kB/s 2m50s |
| 05:41.39 | nicolas__ | thats pretty slow |
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| 05:41.53 | dondelelcaro | Fetched 12.0MB in 11s (1077kB/s) ? |
| 05:42.02 | nicolas__ | dondelelcaro: thats pretty nice |
| 05:42.14 | dondelelcaro | (and that mirror isn't even very fast) |
| 05:42.15 | cafuego | Yeah, my proxy fetches it at around 12Mb/sec |
| 05:42.38 | dondelelcaro | heh |
| 05:42.57 | dondelelcaro | well, it is about 70 miles from where I'm sitting to that mirror |
| 05:43.02 | dondelelcaro | the other one is about 500 miles away |
| 05:43.36 | billatq | Hmm |
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| 05:43.45 | dondelelcaro | (but I get more "normal" speeds at home... university connections aren't really a fair comparison) |
| 05:43.45 | billatq | Is 16mb of ram going to be too small to install sarge? |
| 05:43.54 | dondelelcaro | billatq: likely |
| 05:43.56 | billatq | (not necessarily run it, just set it up) |
| 05:44.00 | cafuego | but then, that's as fast as my DSL can go |
| 05:44.03 | dondelelcaro | billatq: you can run with 16M no problem |
| 05:44.05 | billatq | yeah |
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| 05:44.31 | dondelelcaro | billatq: you may be able to get it to install, but it'll take a while, and it may swap quite a bit. |
| 05:44.33 | billatq | I'm wondering if I should make a fakie partition just for the purposes of installation |
| 05:44.48 | dondelelcaro | billatq: the best method is just to rip out the drive, install on a machine with memory, and then replace the drive |
| 05:44.51 | billatq | yeah, problem is that I'm getting __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed before I can finish init |
| 05:44.59 | billatq | Yeah, I'd like to do that, only it's a laptop |
| 05:45.06 | moath | I'm setting up a XDMCP server with gdm. How can I make GDM not try and launch a local X server on this machine? Is it an option I need to pass to X when i starts? |
| 05:45.07 | dondelelcaro | that's still not an excuse... |
| 05:45.11 | dondelelcaro | there are adapters... |
| 05:45.17 | streuner | cafuego: Es wurden 52,3MB in 2m43s geholt (321kB/s) |
| 05:45.19 | billatq | It is when I can't get an adapter locally |
| 05:45.31 | billatq | Though I'll just wait for the ram upgrade to show up |
| 05:45.50 | dondelelcaro | yeah, the other trick is to use 2.4 instead of 2.6; possibly 2.2 even. |
| 05:45.52 | billatq | Potato's installer will start up, but I'll probably need to set up infs to do that |
| 05:45.55 | cafuego | streuner: Once ADSL2+ is enabled I'll manage that just fine, currently it can't physically go over 163. |
| 05:46.02 | billatq | *nfs |
| 05:46.11 | Jay_R | im installing debian etch but im not sure what it means when it say "automatically partition hard drive warning this will erase all data on all disk" what does it mean by this? I have 2 hdd and I want to install on hdd2 and I dont want to format my hdd1 |
| 05:46.12 | billatq | Already tried 2.4 |
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| 05:47.14 | Jay_R | any body could shine light on this? im a bit scared to continue it might wipre out all data on all my Hdds |
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| 05:47.17 | streuner | cafuego: if that is not enough i don't know... |
| 05:47.18 | Jay_R | guys? |
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| 05:47.26 | billatq | I'm thinking that if I can maybe get a tiny 2.2-based distribution with 8139 support |
| 05:47.32 | billatq | Then maybe I can use debootstrap |
| 05:47.47 | streuner | cafuego: some time ago, i got my unstable packages via dialup... |
| 05:48.39 | cafuego | streuner: Still means OOo or ISOs would take ages ;-) |
| 05:49.10 | streuner | cafuego: one iso about 1 day |
| 05:49.29 | Jay_R | streuner: can you help me with this? |
| 05:50.11 | unlearn | what is a good program to convert mp3 to ogg format |
| 05:50.35 | streuner | Jay_R: so partition manually? |
| 05:50.37 | pipeline | unlearn: There is no such thing. |
| 05:50.39 | gravity | unlearn: Don't do that |
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| 05:50.41 | pipeline | unlearn: transcoding hurts quality terribly. |
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| 05:50.52 | pipeline | unlearn: It's going to come out sounding much worse than before no matter what program you use :( |
| 05:51.05 | unlearn | k |
| 05:51.06 | billatq | well, you can dump it to wav and use oggenc |
| 05:51.14 | billatq | But you shouldn't unless you really really need to |
| 05:51.16 | pipeline | billatq: That won't fix the quality problem, silly. |
| 05:51.21 | pipeline | unlearn: Avoid doing that at any cost :\ |
| 05:51.26 | BlueFish | Hi, I just installed Debian and I installed only the very base system. |
| 05:51.34 | billatq | pipeline: I didn't say it would, but if he knows that, well, that's that |
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| 05:51.54 | unlearn | but i thought ogg had superior quality |
| 05:52.01 | BlueFish | I then installed gnome but I don't know how to make gnome load on startup |
| 05:52.02 | Jay_R | theres only 1 option: automatically partition HDD and there's an <OK> or <Cancel> buttons |
| 05:52.08 | billatq | unlearn: If you start off with uncompressed media, yes |
| 05:52.18 | unstable | Is there a non-gnome program that can use network-manager..like a curses program...or something gtk*? |
| 05:52.19 | unlearn | k i understand |
| 05:52.24 | billatq | But you're limited by the beginning media, and since they use different algorithms, it'll probably sound worse |
| 05:52.45 | BlueFish | So how do I get gnome to run? |
| 05:53.11 | deadcat | BlueFish: apt-get install gdm gnome |
| 05:53.12 | unstable | BlueFish: apt-get install gnome gdm; update-rc.d -f gdm defaults; reboot; |
| 05:53.26 | deadcat | unstable: why reboot? |
| 05:54.03 | unstable | deadcat: /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
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| 05:54.23 | unstable | and have him control alt backspace |
| 05:54.29 | unstable | just easier to tell him to reboot |
| 05:54.31 | unstable | uses less chars |
| 05:54.38 | unstable | and he'll feel better about rebooting anyway |
| 05:54.50 | deadcat | i guess |
| 05:56.00 | nagashi | quick question. when I run startx, the default resolution is 320x200. I don't have that listed as a resolution at any bit color depth in my xf85Config file, and at 320x200 I can't navigate the kde menus to set the resolution higher |
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| 05:56.17 | unstable | lol |
| 05:56.21 | nagashi | so.. um. any suggestions as to how to get my resolution up to something more usable? ^^ |
| 05:56.23 | BlueFish | Okay I'll go do that thing now |
| 05:56.53 | deadcat | !drxx nagashi |
| 05:56.53 | dpkg | nagashi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 05:57.26 | nagashi | ok, I'll give that a shot. thanks. |
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| 05:57.41 | deadcat | nagashi: ya. select a diff resolution in the menu |
| 05:58.06 | streuner | unstable: isn't it nasty if someone using 'unstable' in every sentence...? |
| 05:58.09 | thedingus9 | hey any one else having trouble with udev in 2.6.15? |
| 05:58.11 | nagashi | which menu? the xf86Config menu? |
| 05:58.28 | nagashi | I tried setting the resolution on every bit color depth to 1280x1024 |
| 05:58.29 | unstable | streuner: nah, I have irssi setup just right |
| 05:58.31 | deadcat | nagashi: the !drxx menu |
| 05:58.34 | nagashi | it still comes up at 320x200 |
| 05:58.36 | streuner | TheBest: cat /proc/version |
| 05:58.57 | streuner | thedingus9: cat /proc/version |
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| 05:59.42 | streuner | thedingus9: if you using a debian kernel (official) and run etch/sid just check out BTS |
| 05:59.46 | nagashi | I'm sorry for being a n00b, but what/where is the !drxx menu? ^^; |
| 06:00.25 | unstable | !tell nagashi about drxx |
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| 06:00.33 | thedingus9 | streuner: BTS? |
| 06:00.39 | unstable | !tell thedingus9 about bts |
| 06:00.53 | streuner | thedingus9: /msg dpkg bts |
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| 06:01.44 | NimaK | how can i remotly close a cd tray? |
| 06:02.04 | streuner | eject? |
| 06:02.06 | NimaK | remotely? |
| 06:02.09 | NimaK | thanks |
| 06:02.09 | jbroome | telekenisis |
| 06:02.17 | streuner | haha |
| 06:02.30 | nagashi | well I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.. it returned: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed |
| 06:02.30 | NimaK | neither work |
| 06:02.44 | nagashi | startx definitely brings up kde though o.O |
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| 06:03.47 | Stevie | hrm |
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| 06:03.51 | Phated | Uninstall KDE ;) |
| 06:04.00 | streuner | NimaK: do you have telephone? |
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| 06:04.25 | nagashi | Phated: a joke, or would uninstalling/reinstalling seriously allow me to up my resolution? |
| 06:04.32 | NimaK | streuner, nevermind, i think eject worked, i had to run it as root |
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| 06:05.21 | NimaK | nagashi, i think he was joking |
| 06:05.32 | nagashi | yeah, thought so, just making sure though >_< |
| 06:05.40 | NimaK | !drxx |
| 06:05.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
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| 06:06.09 | nagashi | dpkg: I did this. it returned an error. xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed |
| 06:06.10 | dpkg | nagashi: what are you talking about? |
| 06:06.10 | NimaK | night, everyone |
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| 06:06.59 | NimaK | nagashi, dpkg is a bot |
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| 06:07.04 | Phated | nagashi: A joke. |
| 06:07.15 | nagashi | NimaK: noted, sorry |
| 06:07.22 | NimaK | :-) |
| 06:07.23 | Stevie | is there a way to netinst etch over dial-up? |
| 06:07.23 | nagashi | Phated: thought so, had to be sure, hehe |
| 06:07.33 | NimaK | Stevie, hahahaha |
| 06:07.39 | BlueFish | H. what's the command to go back to setup and alter the original choices? for example if i wish to install the desktop package. |
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| 06:08.18 | LinuxNIT | dpkg-reconfigure packagename? |
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| 06:09.02 | NimaK | BlueFish, just install it by hand |
| 06:09.02 | Stevie | NimaK: What's so funny? |
| 06:09.08 | BlueFish | That's the one thanks |
| 06:09.31 | NimaK | Stevie, its going to take a while |
| 06:10.07 | Stevie | NimaK: I'm not actually installing over dialup, but over a ppp-based connection (but not pppoe) |
| 06:10.07 | NimaK | Stevie, if you want to try, go ahead |
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| 06:11.05 | Stevie | 'go ahead'? |
| 06:11.08 | NimaK | time |
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| 06:11.55 | NimaK | Stevie, i was talking about trying to netinst over a slow connection |
| 06:12.11 | NimaK | im not sure how to do it over ppp |
| 06:13.37 | ollanta | hello somebody that me can send its reportorios of sid... him agradeceria |
| 06:13.39 | Stevie | blah. |
| 06:14.06 | cshaman | does anyone here have a problem with mozilla firefox's menubar font size being too small? |
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| 06:18.38 | cshaman | gtk's font size used to be small but i changed it to a slightly larger font to accomodate my vision using switch and switch2 packages -- i assumed it would affect firefox as well. |
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| 06:20.47 | cahoot | cshaman: look at ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
| 06:22.08 | Stevie | aha |
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| 06:22.38 | ollanta | hello somebody that me can send its reportorios of sid... him agradeceria |
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| 06:25.07 | Supaplex | sid users can build their own |
| 06:25.29 | tarzeau | lightcap: sure, www.linuks.mine.nu/make-kpkg/ |
| 06:25.30 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 06:25.30 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 06:29.13 | Deci | hi |
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| 06:29.40 | nicolas__ | how do i set an environment variable ? |
| 06:29.53 | nicolas__ | set JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/bin/ ? |
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| 06:30.56 | Azar | nicolas__: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ch-shell.html |
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| 06:37.49 | Azar | tarzeau have you read about the WoW player banned because he was using Wine? |
| 06:38.24 | Stevie | that's not why he was banned. |
| 06:38.40 | Stevie | It was a contributing factor, but that's not why he was banned |
| 06:38.44 | Azar | Stevie that what it said, I mean was written |
| 06:38.45 | tarzeau | Azar: yes. |
| 06:38.54 | tarzeau | Azar: have you got fast 3d opengl? |
| 06:38.57 | Azar | Stevie because of the keyboard? |
| 06:39.09 | Azar | tarzeau, no... |
| 06:39.15 | tarzeau | Azar: hey i'm packaging dodging diamonds 2! |
| 06:39.25 | Azar | :) wow nice |
| 06:39.28 | Stevie | he was using some automated macro system that triggered their anti-bot logic |
| 06:40.01 | Azar | Stevie oh, I see, the article I read mentioned that too |
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| 06:42.11 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 06:42.11 | dpkg | [qotd158] <paulswm> They don't make 2.25 ton mass storage drives any more :( |
| 06:42.14 | Stevie | Then they looked into it, and (probably because he was using Wine) his client was behaving subtly differently from one running under real Windows |
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| 06:42.41 | Stevie | so they thought that it was actually a bot trying to emulate the real WoW client |
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| 06:43.13 | Azar | it was a Wine emulator in fact |
| 06:43.36 | Azar | http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30346 |
| 06:43.45 | weasel00 | he was banned cause of the Wine emu? thats hilarious !! |
| 06:47.14 | jbroome | was it wine, or his macros on the keyboard? |
| 06:47.30 | weasel00 | eq TOS was based on "unattended macro'ing" i used to read a book while a macro fished when i waiting for a group =) |
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| 06:51.31 | tarzeau | !mosh |
| 06:52.04 | Stevie | jbroome: It was his macros on the keyboard that brought him to their attention; the fact that he was running under Wine simply made him look more like a bot |
| 06:52.50 | Stevie | Logically, Blizzard has absolutely no good reason to ban you just for playing under Wine -- if you're a legitimate human player, your money is as good as the next guy's |
| 06:53.24 | Azar | The way I keep reading about Blizzard... makes me think some bans may be abusive |
| 06:53.55 | Stevie | I suspect that they have something that detects things like shared library load addresses, and that those addresses were very different under Wine from what they would be in a real Windows system |
| 06:54.28 | Azar | few months ago with that Sony DRM well crafted Blizzard wasn't worth much |
| 06:54.28 | weasel00 | jbroome : ahh.. i see it... the based the ban on the idea that he wasnt there at the keyboard while admitting to using macro's. =( this in there mind is unattended and he was in another room watching movies... poor guy stated his argument wrong =( seen this many times during my 6 years with eq =( |
| 06:56.33 | jbroome | yeah, i think wine was a red herring. |
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| 06:57.14 | weasel00 | jbroome : when this would happen on eq the GM's would shoot an message to you to see if you were there. if you your character was still actively changing weapons, cast, attacking, they would suspend you. fool shoulda kept his volume turned up for the messages =\ |
| 06:57.25 | Azar | is that a fact, we not got linux-image instead of kernel-image? |
| 06:57.34 | Azar | s/not/now |
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| 06:58.28 | Stevie | yeah they renamed it |
| 06:58.29 | Stevie | for some reason |
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| 06:59.35 | Azar | not on Sarge.. I still show kernel-image in search |
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| 07:00.32 | Azar | I will miss mail from Martin Schulze |
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| 07:03.14 | mike_ | hi, i have 2 seperate networks and my debian box is connected to both. 2 ethernet cards. Is it possible to make the cards act as 1 and the then both networks can connect to each other.. (through me) |
| 07:03.20 | mike_ | is this possible? |
| 07:03.56 | jm_ | enable IP forwarding |
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| 07:04.37 | mike_ | but allow clients on both sides of the network can connect to each other... |
| 07:04.50 | mike_ | i have ip forwarding on atm |
| 07:05.01 | mike_ | but only 1 side of the network can connect to the other |
| 07:05.05 | mike_ | not the other way round |
| 07:06.14 | jm_ | then you didn't enable it for all interfaces or something else is wrong |
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| 07:07.48 | Azar | configure a star network structure |
| 07:08.00 | karsten | Azar: Please provide sufficient rocket fuel. |
| 07:08.17 | Azar | :) hi karsten |
| 07:08.35 | karsten | Azar: How goes. |
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| 07:09.24 | Azar | karsten: trying to go to sleep... |
| 07:09.45 | karsten | ...filled with rocket fuel. |
| 07:09.52 | Azar | if I understood well he is using the Debian box as a hub.... or am I wrong |
| 07:10.01 | Azar | :) hehe |
| 07:10.13 | karsten | Azar: mike? |
| 07:10.25 | Azar | kasten: yes mike |
| 07:11.05 | karma | anyone here know anything about highmem... I am trying to figure out how much RAM a machine has, top and cat /proc/meminfo both show MemTotal: 906736 kB... but the server provider is telling there is 1.5 gigs of ram installed |
| 07:11.29 | karsten | mike_: You need to either configure as a bridge (your Debian box is transparent and merely shuttles bits back and fourth), or configure routing on both sides of your box such that your box is the default route to the other network. Two seperate network segments? |
| 07:11.58 | karsten | karma: 960 MB is one of the memory segmentation boundaries for x86 architectures. |
| 07:12.20 | Azar | so zombie that I do a w and read USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT .. and I go : hmm who is that USER? |
| 07:12.35 | karsten | karma: demidecode should tell you how much real memory you've got on the box. |
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| 07:13.33 | karma | i am not sure what demidecode is |
| 07:13.47 | karsten | karma: apt-cache show demidecode |
| 07:13.53 | karsten | karma: It's a Debian package and command. |
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| 07:14.27 | karsten | See: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2150 |
| 07:14.42 | karsten | ... for sample output, two SoDIMMs, 192 MB total, installed on my box here. |
| 07:15.00 | karma | ty |
| 07:16.19 | dingus9 | Having troube auto mounting. I have udev, hal and pmount. tail dmesg shows a usb connect and mod load. I can manualy mount it. am I missing any thing? |
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| 07:17.14 | Azar | dingus9: from the top of my tired head: you got rights to that group? |
| 07:17.32 | Azar | ah nevermind, yes I am zombie |
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| 07:18.09 | dingus9 | Azar: ?? |
| 07:18.19 | Azar | dingus9: sorry I misread your question |
| 07:18.23 | karsten | dingus9: Got automounter running? Got auto.master & auto.misc properly configured? Um. If you 're using automounter. Not familiar with pmount. |
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| 07:19.34 | karma | W: Unable to locate package demidecode |
| 07:19.42 | dingus9 | well It works on my 2.6.12 but not now on a 2.6.15 I had to move to udev from hotplug wich worked fine so im not sure whats wrong |
| 07:19.51 | karsten | karma: Which release? Stable or unstable? |
| 07:20.05 | karsten | karma: 'dmidecode' not demidecode. |
| 07:20.21 | karma | :) |
| 07:20.21 | karsten | karma: please subscribe for remedial cut and paste ;-) |
| 07:20.42 | bony | my system is in proxy and i am unable to get mails to my evolution. i searched for proxy option in evolution but did not get one please help me on how to enable proxy for evolution so that i can download my mails it is urgent |
| 07:20.42 | karma | <karsten> karma: demidecode should tell you how much real memory you've got on the box. |
| 07:21.07 | karsten | karma: Damn it, read what I *meant*, not what I wrote. |
| 07:21.09 | karma | karma: apt-cache show demidecode |
| 07:21.24 | karma | copy paste seems to be working ;) |
| 07:21.34 | karsten | karma: You need a smarter paster. |
| 07:21.40 | karma | hehe |
| 07:22.21 | Azar | thats some sort of mail client? evolution? |
| 07:22.21 | bony | please help me on how to enable proxy for evolution |
| 07:22.34 | bony | yes it is a mail client |
| 07:22.36 | karsten | Azar: It's the Gnome email client. |
| 07:22.46 | Azar | thank you karsten |
| 07:22.47 | karsten | Azar: MS OutHouse knockoff. |
| 07:22.54 | Azar | hahahaha |
| 07:23.07 | bony | hahaha |
| 07:23.10 | Azar | bony, maybe gnome has some settings for proxy |
| 07:23.34 | bony | yes but that is not working i am manually editing each application like firefox gaim etc |
| 07:23.43 | karsten | bony: Where's your proxy? I'm guessing you want to specify the hostname or IP, the protocol, and any authentication tokens. Where is it failing? |
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| 07:24.07 | karsten | bony: Um. What sort of proxy is this? SMTP? IMAP? POP? Or general IP firewall/gateway? |
| 07:24.21 | bony | only ip and port are their no username and password to connect |
| 07:24.33 | karsten | bony: What port? |
| 07:24.36 | bony | it is squid |
| 07:24.37 | Stevie | Unpacking base-files... |
| 07:24.50 | karsten | bony: Um. Evo shouldn't need to connect to a Squid proxy. |
| 07:25.18 | bony | ok but who to enable proxy in it ? |
| 07:25.34 | karsten | bony: WTF are you trying to proxy Evo through Squid for? |
| 07:25.50 | Stevie | maybe he wants it to load faster |
| 07:25.51 | karsten | bony: ... and could you screenshot the relevant dialog and post somehwere? |
| 07:26.14 | dingus9 | are you stuck behind squid? |
| 07:26.15 | karsten | Stevie: Um. There may be a couple of things in Evo that use HTTP, but darned few. |
| 07:26.27 | Stevie | no, i mean the whole thing |
| 07:26.30 | Stevie | :) |
| 07:26.44 | Stevie | menus icons etc |
| 07:26.50 | bony | ok i will explain you the proxy setting in here i have a server which has squid in it and the system on which i am working has permmission to connect the net 24/7. |
| 07:26.51 | Azar | :) yay etch beta 2 out! and I am the last to know |
| 07:26.53 | karsten | Stevie: ln -sf $( which mutt ) /usr/bin/evolution ;-) |
| 07:27.02 | Stevie | haha |
| 07:27.09 | Stevie | elm! |
| 07:27.17 | bony | i configured firefox and i could browser sites |
| 07:27.21 | Stevie | mailx! |
| 07:27.31 | karsten | Stevie: mail! |
| 07:27.32 | karma | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2151 |
| 07:27.40 | Stevie | telnet host 110! |
| 07:27.47 | Azar | :) |
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| 07:28.30 | karsten | karma: Looks like 9216 MB to me. |
| 07:28.52 | karma | karsten: i wish |
| 07:29.00 | Stevie | 9GB? |
| 07:29.01 | karsten | Stevie: UUCP! |
| 07:29.06 | Stevie | gah |
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| 07:29.09 | Stevie | mercy! |
| 07:29.15 | Stevie | uncle! |
| 07:29.16 | karsten | Stevie: Uncle! |
| 07:29.21 | Stevie | lol |
| 07:29.21 | karsten | Heh. |
| 07:29.34 | Stevie | when I was a kid it was Mercy |
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| 07:30.26 | Stevie | Unpacking libssl0.9.8 |
| 07:30.27 | karsten | karma: I'd say you've got a sizeable amount of RAM there, you need to ensure you've got the big memory stuff configured properly. |
| 07:30.33 | Stevie | Unpacking modutils |
| 07:30.46 | Stevie | karsten: What kind of machine is this? |
| 07:30.48 | Stevie | err |
| 07:30.50 | Stevie | karma |
| 07:30.52 | karma | Something is not right... there is now way there is 9GB in this machine... It should have 2 but they said they were short and only had 1.5 installed |
| 07:30.55 | Stevie | karma: What kind of machine is this? |
| 07:31.01 | karsten | Stevie: karma's. |
| 07:31.13 | karsten | karma: Don't complain ;-) |
| 07:31.20 | Stevie | is this x86? |
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| 07:31.25 | karsten | karma: ... try memtest86+ at boot and see what it reports. |
| 07:31.33 | karma | I am sure they are not going to make a 7GB RAM mistake |
| 07:31.35 | adri | how to install build essential package in debian 3.1 ? |
| 07:31.42 | karsten | Stevie: There's servers with 16GB and up shipping these days. |
| 07:31.43 | Stevie | karma, what about dmesg|head ? |
| 07:31.57 | bony | and also i am unable to browse gmail |
| 07:32.01 | bony | from my firefox |
| 07:32.02 | karsten | karma: ... also check your BIOS boot messages. |
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| 07:32.42 | fr33mind | I loose the screen after install of mysql... I need to have the link of what to do after package installed... ? |
| 07:32.42 | dingus9 | bony: sounds like squid is set to filter secure transmisions |
| 07:32.55 | Stevie | Storing language... |
| 07:33.02 | karma | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2152 |
| 07:33.05 | fr33mind | I mean the doc of Debian install... and also for phpmyadmin. |
| 07:33.14 | bony | dingus9, yes exactly cause when i tried to browse gmail form links i got this error |
| 07:33.19 | karsten | fr33mind: What's your native language? |
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| 07:33.45 | adri | sorry gtg |
| 07:34.29 | fr33mind | karsten: french |
| 07:34.33 | karsten | karma: Well, you've got a discrepency. I'd say install memtest86+, reboot, check what BIOS reports, and check what memtest86+ reports. |
| 07:34.42 | karsten | fr33mind: Hrm. |
| 07:34.44 | bony | the error it shows is this version of links does not contain ssl/tls support |
| 07:34.56 | bony | now how to enable secure transmisions in squid |
| 07:34.56 | karsten | !tell fr33mind about french |
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| 07:35.07 | dingus9 | bony: well.... where exactly are you going with this? if you don't have control of the squid server you probably cant do much. Im guessing that your not using pop but a secure protocol? |
| 07:35.13 | Stevie | 901948k = 880.808594MB |
| 07:35.17 | karsten | bony: RTFM. You can proxy SSL, but only to the extent of passing it on through the proxy. |
| 07:35.22 | fr33mind | karsten: you don't understand my english? ;) |
| 07:35.26 | karma | karsten: the machine is remote... can see anything on reboot |
| 07:35.30 | karsten | fr33mind: Not particularly well, sorry. |
| 07:35.45 | karsten | karma: That makes things considerably more interesting. |
| 07:35.54 | Stevie | can or can't? |
| 07:35.55 | karsten | karma: dmesg | head |
| 07:36.06 | bony | dingus9, i do have enough permission to work around with squid |
| 07:36.09 | karsten | karma: Got remote hands? |
| 07:36.13 | Stevie | wasn't I just saying that? |
| 07:36.21 | fr33mind | karsten: Often, people here are more helpfull than in french chanels ;) |
| 07:36.22 | karsten | !thursday |
| 07:36.22 | dpkg | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent), or tight-underwear day. |
| 07:36.35 | karsten | fr33mind: Sure. We're mostly not French ;-) |
| 07:36.46 | karsten | fr33mind: Try asking again, not sure what you want. |
| 07:36.50 | Azar | good night honorables |
| 07:37.00 | karma | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2153 |
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| 07:37.55 | FlopsyPete | has there been no update to Testing in the last week or two or is it just me, or my mirror (Ticklers, UK)? |
| 07:38.18 | weasel00 | i like "freedom fries" =) |
| 07:38.22 | Stevie | hrm |
| 07:38.28 | Stevie | karma: try dmesg | head -n 20 |
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| 07:38.50 | fr33mind | After I installed mysql package, there was a link to doc to follow to finish installation... but, I close the terminal after the apt-get and forget to note... I would like the info on how to finish mysql server installation and the same for phpmyadmin |
| 07:38.53 | karsten | karma: I get about 1.5 GB out of that, if I'm reading it right. |
| 07:39.06 | karsten | fr33mind: /usr/share/doc/<packagename> usually. |
| 07:39.13 | karsten | fr33mind: ... or dpkg-reconfigure <packagename> |
| 07:39.22 | karma | http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 07:39.25 | karsten | fr33mind: You can also generally reinstall. |
| 07:39.29 | karsten | karma: Wrong URL |
| 07:39.29 | karma | ewps |
| 07:39.31 | Stevie | hey karma |
| 07:39.38 | karma | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2154 |
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| 07:39.50 | Stevie | karma |
| 07:39.55 | karma | yes |
| 07:39.58 | Stevie | you see that 'usable' region in the middle? |
| 07:40.11 | karma | yes |
| 07:40.11 | fr33mind | karsten: a kind of readme.debian for mysql-server (I'm looking for) |
| 07:40.12 | Stevie | that range is 1518.9375MB |
| 07:40.37 | Stevie | wait a minute... |
| 07:40.54 | fr33mind | karsten, ok!! found! sorry... |
| 07:41.05 | karsten | fr33mind: Bon! |
| 07:41.12 | fr33mind | karsten, I was looking in usr/share/doc/mysql-server but... it's in mysql-server-5.0 |
| 07:41.25 | karsten | fr33mind: Should be named the same as the package. |
| 07:41.33 | karsten | fr33mind: ... less any versioning. |
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| 07:41.42 | fr33mind | karsten, both directories are there |
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| 07:41.49 | mike_ | karsten: 1 network is gateway'd to my internet box. so how do I make it the machines on the first network use my machine as a gateway too? |
| 07:42.03 | fr33mind | karsten, (you understand better my english now? :p ) |
| 07:42.10 | mike_ | sorry for the delayed response |
| 07:42.26 | Stevie | karma, was your kernel compiled with CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G ? |
| 07:43.16 | karma | I am not sure... it is a dedicated server that just came up today... but I did see this: Use a HIGHMEM enabled kernel |
| 07:43.35 | karsten | karma: ... you can answer Stevie's question by looking at /boot/config-$( uname -r ) |
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| 07:44.25 | karsten | karma: I think it's on by default for Debian stock kernels. |
| 07:44.51 | Stevie | I seem to recall something about 800MB and not having himem enabled |
| 07:45.02 | jm_ | not sure if it's enabled in install kernels, but it is enabled in 2.6.8-2-foo |
| 07:45.55 | jm_ | 896M IIRC |
| 07:47.02 | jm_ | but that limitation doesn't require highmem option, it's enough if you patch it with different user/kernel space split config option |
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| 07:49.26 | karma | karsten: I did not follow the "by looking at /boot/config-$( uname -r )" |
| 07:49.54 | Stevie-O | stupid router |
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| 07:49.56 | karma | i see /boot/config-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 07:50.12 | Stevie-O | grep HIGH /boot/config-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 07:50.41 | karma | CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y |
| 07:50.46 | Stevie-O | there you go |
| 07:50.52 | Stevie-O | that's why you're limited to 800MB |
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| 07:51.49 | karma | I am still not sure what all that means... Does that mean it is not using all of the RAM? |
| 07:51.54 | Stevie-O | that's correct |
| 07:52.04 | Stevie-O | the kernel you have on there is not capable of using all your RAM |
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| 07:52.43 | karma | hmmmm.... seems odd that the company that is selling me the dedicated server would install that way |
| 07:52.58 | Stevie-O | it is optimized for less than 1GB of RAM (which was the case for almost every desktop machine until fairly recently) |
| 07:53.11 | karsten | karma: 'less /boot/config-$( uname -r )' or grep MEM /boot/config-$( uname -r )'. |
| 07:53.29 | Stevie-O | karsten: We already determined that his kernel has no highmem support |
| 07:54.10 | karma | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2155 |
| 07:54.15 | Stevie-O | Preparing texinfo |
| 07:54.31 | karsten | karma: ... the "$( command )" syntax expands to the output of the command in question. |
| 07:55.07 | Stevie-O | Configuring exim4-daemon-light |
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| 08:00.12 | noiesmo | ok i got debian stable set up with ide & sata drives a adaptec scsi control running 2.6.2 all appears good on boot up . now on monday i have to attach hp ultrium tape drive would like some help with how to mount it so i can use kdat to back up but not sure on mounting etc for tape drive any help please |
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| 08:00.43 | nevyn | noiesmo: you don't mount tape drives |
| 08:01.09 | noiesmo | nevyn, ok so i plug it all in and terminate it then what?? |
| 08:01.39 | nevyn | noiesmo: then run kdat |
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| 08:02.24 | noiesmo | nevyn, will it see the hp tape drive |
| 08:02.34 | Pollywog | I need to build a new kernel so I can use the fuse module |
| 08:02.46 | Pollywog | can I safely build an initrd kernel? |
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| 08:02.50 | noiesmo | nevyn, ok i see it will want a dev |
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| 08:02.59 | Stevie-O | which ssh command do I use to tweak known_hosts? |
| 08:03.05 | Pollywog | or do I need to do something else like add cramfs? |
| 08:03.22 | Pollywog | Stevie I just edit the list |
| 08:03.44 | noiesmo | nevyn, any howtos or links for setup |
| 08:04.16 | Stevie-O | okay |
| 08:04.21 | Stevie-O | I have done it. |
| 08:04.29 | Stevie-O | I have done what I'm sure many have thought to be impossible. |
| 08:04.39 | nevyn | noiesmo: it'll just take a device... |
| 08:05.02 | noiesmo | nevyn, ok thanks |
| 08:05.12 | nevyn | noiesmo: kdat's default settings are almost certainly wrong for the hp drive tho |
| 08:05.36 | Stevie-O | who wants to take part in a historic moment? |
| 08:05.39 | nevyn | noiesmo: have you considered something like amanda or just using tar and some scripts? |
| 08:05.52 | nevyn | Stevie-O: already did that. |
| 08:06.03 | Stevie-O | another historic moment, then |
| 08:06.14 | Pollywog | well I am going to find out right now if my new kernel compiled correctly |
| 08:06.23 | Stevie-O | good luck, Pollywog |
| 08:06.31 | noiesmo | nevyn, i need to have a gui for two other users to be able to backup and restore in case im not there |
| 08:06.39 | Pollywog | ty |
| 08:07.02 | Pollywog | I do see an initrd in there |
| 08:07.16 | noiesmo | nevyn, i work at a school and mostly m$ but tring to convert I just havent used tape backup before and wanted it to go smoothly |
| 08:08.18 | Stevie-O | nevyn: which historic moment did you take part in? |
| 08:09.22 | karma | thanks for all the help... i have to get some sleep :) back later |
| 08:09.47 | Pollywog | I need to remove that AppleTalk stuff next time I mess with the kernel, I don't know why it is even in the stock kernel |
| 08:10.11 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 08:10.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, qotd103 is <punchik> everytime i use google i get a message that says its no safe , and other people can read what im writing because its not encrypted <Guerin> punchik: do you care if people see what you google for? <punchik> yes <punchik> i dont want people to know that i use to look for shemales |
| 08:10.39 | Stevie-O | lmfao |
| 08:11.22 | Pollywog | I do not see the nvidia modules |
| 08:11.25 | Pollywog | uh oh |
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| 08:11.54 | Pollywog | but the kernel did boot :) |
| 08:12.09 | Stevie-O | that's its job |
| 08:14.11 | Pollywog | if I want to load a module on boot don't I put it in .etc.modules? |
| 08:14.18 | Pollywog | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.25 | tarzeau | someone has got the commands to create a black.png using some commandline tool, of 1024x1024? |
| 08:14.28 | Pollywog | and run update-modules ? |
| 08:14.33 | tarzeau | (imagemagick, or something else?) |
| 08:15.30 | Stevie-O | CG image of a black panther at midnight during a new moon? |
| 08:19.49 | brammator | should i apply linux-patch-debian-2.6.15 to linux-source-2.6.15 (both from debian repository) to compile kernel for debian? |
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| 08:20.44 | Pollywog | success :) |
| 08:20.52 | weary | hi.. is there some place where i can get acroread in a debian repos? |
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| 08:21.01 | jm_ | weary: Marillat |
| 08:21.02 | jeffrin | hello all |
| 08:21.17 | weary | tnx |
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| 08:21.21 | Pollywog | I got mine there |
| 08:21.31 | zinosat | how can I print a character starting from its unicode coordinate? iconv? given <U0033> I'd like to see "3" |
| 08:21.33 | jeffrin | how to configure exim to send username and password to the smarthost |
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| 08:22.06 | Zugschlus | jeffrin: exim or exim4? |
| 08:22.12 | jeffrin | exim4 |
| 08:22.20 | jm_ | zinosat: iconv won't help with that unless you have it in the right encoding already |
| 08:22.23 | Zugschlus | jeffrin: on sarge? |
| 08:22.29 | jeffrin | sid |
| 08:22.44 | Zugschlus | jeffrin: see /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/README.Debian.gz |
| 08:23.02 | Zugschlus | (and if you need to ask questions like this, you shouldn't be running sid, an unreleased development version) |
| 08:23.40 | zinosat | jm_, you mean <Uxxxx> is not a right format I can specify with --from ? |
| 08:23.48 | Zugschlus | [btw, how did you miss the reference for the README file - references are all over the place] |
| 08:24.28 | jm_ | zinosat: --from is used to specify original encoding, i.e. iso8859-1/utf-8/eucjp/... |
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| 08:25.14 | zinosat | jm_, yes, I meant "there's not an encoding associated to the <Uxxxx> format" |
| 08:25.30 | gba | How can I change the colors of my virtual terminal? |
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| 08:28.07 | karsten | gba: Appropriate use of LSD> |
| 08:28.48 | karsten | gba: Otherwise, console colors are possibly configurable if you're using framebuffer. Otherwise somewhat static. You can code for ANSI escape sequences if you want. |
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| 08:30.03 | gba | karsten, Can you explain me the way how a framebuffer functions 'cause framebuffer!=graphics card, right? |
| 08:31.13 | karsten | gba: NMAOE |
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| 08:32.09 | karsten | gba: Other than that fb > vga graphics, I really don't know a hell of a lot about how it works, or what it's capable of. You can do some graphics, more than rudimentary level. |
| 08:32.15 | george_ | not my angle on ether? |
| 08:32.35 | jm_ | zinosat: that's not an encoding ;) |
| 08:32.48 | karsten | !NMAOE |
| 08:32.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nmaoe is not my area of expertise |
| 08:32.48 | gba | karsten, thanks |
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| 08:33.25 | zinosat | jm_, yes:) well, is there any way to achieve it? |
| 08:33.35 | karsten | gba: Or you can install aalib and enjoy (aptitude install bb for fun and entertainment). |
| 08:34.38 | gba | karsten, The framebuffer thing should be compiled into the kernel, right? |
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| 08:34.54 | karsten | gba: Yeah. It's in stock Debian these days. |
| 08:35.01 | gba | Cool |
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| 08:35.49 | gba | The thing is that I like the blue colors of the terminal of the Gentoo Install CD. And I want to get this in my Sarge. |
| 08:35.54 | jm_ | zinosat: not with iconv no, but you can look it up on the web, there are pages with character tables I think |
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| 08:36.22 | billatq | gba: That really easy--just steal the colors out of the profile |
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| 08:36.45 | gba | billatq, Which profile? |
| 08:36.53 | gba | .profile? |
| 08:36.59 | billatq | No in /etc/profile |
| 08:37.03 | billatq | Or maybe /etc/bashrc |
| 08:37.15 | nonix4 | Why would iptables/conntrack fail to recognize traffic as belonging to a connection? |
| 08:37.19 | zinosat | jm_, the fact is that I wrote a scipt which finds the codepoints used in a (utf8 encoded) po file. see http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/spellcheck/level1/latest/nozip/ar_codes.txt for example |
| 08:37.29 | karsten | gba: You can run graphics and backgrounds and stuff w/ framebuffer. SuSE does something where you get a framed console sort of effect. Personally, I find other things to worry about. |
| 08:37.39 | zinosat | jm_, I'd like to add a third column with the character itself |
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| 08:37.51 | karsten | jm_: I'd like to add a fifth column. |
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| 08:38.25 | billatq | woohoo, I've finally got debian installing on my crusty old tablet with 16mb of ram |
| 08:38.35 | gba | billatq and karsten thanks for your tips. |
| 08:38.38 | karsten | gba: NP |
| 08:38.41 | unix_infidel | billatq: LOL, tablet with 16MB ram? |
| 08:39.04 | billatq | The damn thing required that I move files back and forth via a pcmcia card, shift around partitions, stick files in the right spots and then use loadlin to kickstart the thing |
| 08:39.06 | ubushine | hey folks -- am i in the right channel to ask about debian-nOOb questions about installation |
| 08:39.10 | billatq | unix_infidel: Yeah, google for the stylistic 1200 |
| 08:39.33 | billatq | It's a tablet pc from when before tablet pc's were "the thing" |
| 08:39.33 | karsten | ubushine: So long as it's Debian and not ubuntu. |
| 08:39.50 | tarzeau | !qotd |
| 08:39.50 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one, or <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already, or <literal qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". |
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| 08:39.54 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 08:39.54 | dpkg | <Guerin> JVaughn: it's probably bourbon. bourbon and whisky are different like knoppix and debian. |
| 08:39.57 | ubushine | karsten, lol - get enough of that huh? |
| 08:40.09 | karsten | !tell ubushine about ubuntu |
| 08:40.12 | george_ | how can I determine the modules necessary to mount a non-/ partition (so that I can build an initrd with those modules to later boot and mount it -as- /) |
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| 08:40.17 | tarzeau | our visio network plan of important machines, any comments? http://nic.phys.ethz.ch/readme/87 |
| 08:41.00 | unix_infidel | billatq: sounds like a trip. |
| 08:41.04 | ubushine | well i'm on the way (now) to installing debian for the first time. and all i chose during install was 'file server' option. what packages are needed for a very small xwindow system (gui) |
| 08:41.09 | billatq | tarzeau: Heh, that looks vaguely like my physics deployment from when I worked for a department |
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| 08:41.41 | tarzeau | billatq: it's pretty nice, we've got 150 debian workstations... |
| 08:41.49 | karsten | !tell ubushine about install x |
| 08:41.52 | billatq | Yeah, we finally moved to debian too |
| 08:42.07 | tarzeau | billatq: congrats, are you on www.debian.org/users already? |
| 08:42.09 | billatq | It was a pain maintaining redhat on them, especially when the powers that be decided that we should get one redhat subscription |
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| 08:42.34 | billatq | tarzeau: Oh, I didn't think to do that, perhaps I should have :) |
| 08:42.44 | tarzeau | billatq: and also install popularity-contest ;) |
| 08:42.53 | ubushine | i know i need x-windows-sytem, but what else to get minmum destop envronment? |
| 08:42.59 | billatq | Well, I moved on after getting everyone hooked on debian |
| 08:43.02 | tarzeau | ubushine: menu |
| 08:43.13 | tarzeau | billatq: so the users are happy? |
| 08:43.15 | billatq | But I'll drop them a line anyway to add them to the page |
| 08:43.16 | george_ | ubushine: if you want your machine to act as a display, you will need a server (and whatever is necessary to support that)... if you will run x programs on that same machine as well, you will need the client programs themselves, x client libs as well as anything necessary to support those |
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| 08:43.26 | billatq | tarzeau: Yeah, surprisingly so--physicists seem easy to please with *nix |
| 08:43.29 | tarzeau | billatq: great thanks. which *dm do you use? |
| 08:43.33 | billatq | The secretaries hate it, but we don't care about them |
| 08:43.50 | billatq | *dm? |
| 08:43.54 | tarzeau | billatq: our secretaries like it. they also like LaTeX, but mostly they've got mac os x, with a view exceptions |
| 08:44.00 | tarzeau | billatq: like wdm, gdm, kdm, xdm... |
| 08:44.05 | ubushine | george_, yes and how do no whch pacages exactly wll need? |
| 08:44.10 | billatq | Oh, we mostly used gdm and pam |
| 08:44.23 | tarzeau | billatq: we use wdm and pam |
| 08:44.28 | billatq | with an ldap backend |
| 08:44.34 | billatq | Though we had issues with slapd going crazy |
| 08:44.36 | tarzeau | billatq: we got ldap too, but also nis |
| 08:44.58 | billatq | We also had the windows clients joined to a samba domain |
| 08:44.59 | berzerka | hi guys. want to do a cifs mount. i get 'only root can do that'. although suid bit is set? -rwsr-xr-x 1 root bin 61308 2005-09-13 06:42 /bin/mount* |
| 08:45.01 | george_ | will you display on the video card in the machine you're installing on? |
| 08:45.03 | tarzeau | billatq: i've also got a nifty webkiosk mode for a bunch machines, here's the package |
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| 08:45.17 | tarzeau | billatq: www.linuks.mine.nu/webkiosk/ |
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| 08:45.20 | tarzeau | !webkiosk |
| 08:45.21 | tarzeau | !kiosk |
| 08:45.22 | dpkg | it has been said that kiosk is /bin/su -c "/usr/bin/X11/startx" - kiosk (/usr/sbin/kiosk); kk:2345:respawn:/usr/sbin/kiosk (/etc/inittab); telinit q |
| 08:45.22 | billatq | By the way, how did you deal with centralized file serving? |
| 08:45.33 | tarzeau | dpkg kiosk is also http://www.linuks.mine.nu/webkiosk/ |
| 08:45.33 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 08:45.34 | billatq | I was seriously considering doing AFS |
| 08:45.44 | billatq | But we didn't end up deploying that before I got hired off elsewhere |
| 08:45.55 | tarzeau | billatq: we also got some AFS, but hardly need it anymore (mostly nfs here) |
| 08:46.04 | billatq | V4? |
| 08:46.25 | tarzeau | billatq: openafs 1.4.0 client, it's on all machines, but only particle physics guys need it |
| 08:46.42 | billatq | (We were really worried about security of nfs, so we ended up using cifs as a short-term solution) |
| 08:47.01 | billatq | Heh, the guys that do anyting with Fermi need lots of weird stuff |
| 08:47.04 | tarzeau | billatq: our machines are all publicly on the internet, no firewall. with nfs (well access lists) |
| 08:47.20 | tarzeau | billatq: home and groups drivers are all nfs. so you can login anywhere and have you stuff wherever you are, pretty nice |
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| 08:48.04 | billatq | fair enough, I suppose |
| 08:48.13 | george_ | okay :) no response... I'm hungry now :) |
| 08:48.19 | billatq | we got anal on security when we had to deal with some kiddies from romania |
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| 08:48.56 | tarzeau | billatq: we've automated very much stuff, check this: |
| 08:48.58 | tarzeau | !dphys |
| 08:48.58 | dpkg | i guess dphys is http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys3/, or http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys-kernel-packages/ we build kernels with patched in supermount,sk98lin v2,nvnet for p1-1gb p1-smp-1gb p3-1gb p3-smp-1gb p3-smp-4gb p4-1gb p4-4gb p4-smp-4gb p4-smp-64gb k7-1gb k7-4gb k7-64gb k7-smp-4gb k7-smp-64gb and modules for 3w-9xxx, NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-7174, alsa-driver-1.0.10, openafs-1.4.0, vmware-modules-4.5.2 |
| 08:49.14 | billatq | Nifty |
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| 08:58.31 | Keefe | can you rsync to a vfat partition? |
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| 08:59.12 | Keefe | seems to not work properly |
| 08:59.23 | Keefe | it does not rember what it copied |
| 08:59.25 | billatq | Keefe: You can rsync to whatever you like, it just might not support all of the filenames or metadata attributes |
| 08:59.39 | billatq | It probably thinks that they're different files |
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| 09:01.31 | Keefe | thanks |
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| 09:02.23 | tarzeau | how can i convert a ppm to png using netpbm? |
| 09:02.42 | SimonRaven | i think you have to go through another step to get there |
| 09:02.58 | SimonRaven | i.e., convert to p?m then to png |
| 09:03.11 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: p?m what exactly? |
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| 09:03.22 | SimonRaven | pnm i *think* |
| 09:03.29 | SimonRaven | sec |
| 09:03.42 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: but there's no ppmtopnm... |
| 09:04.29 | lewis2 | silly question - amd64 etch doesn't seem to have a /etc/modprobe.conf - what am I doing wrong? |
| 09:05.00 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: basically i need a black 1024x1024 png... |
| 09:05.18 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: i couldn't find out how to do that using imagemagick... |
| 09:05.26 | george_ | couldn't you do that in gimp? |
| 09:05.35 | tarzeau | george_: no must be a command line tool |
| 09:05.44 | tarzeau | george_: it's for a debian package in the build process |
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| 09:06.20 | george_ | you couldn't just provide the file? if it's going to be the same every time... |
| 09:06.22 | SimonRaven | ppmtojpeg -> jpegtopnm -> pnmtopng |
| 09:06.30 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: thanks |
| 09:06.32 | tarzeau | george_: no |
| 09:06.34 | SimonRaven | yes, that sucks |
| 09:07.00 | SimonRaven | as long as it's just an icon or something, it won't be too bad |
| 09:07.11 | george_ | out of some interest, why? |
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| 09:07.39 | SimonRaven | you *could* try to see if there's a tifftopng or something, at least it won't degrade too much |
| 09:07.49 | tarzeau | george_: for brutalchess.free.fr it's got two same pictures of 1024x1024 each 1.7 mb. one is just another color |
| 09:07.54 | tarzeau | george_: checkerboard |
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| 09:08.08 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: black.png: PNG image data, 1024 x 1024, 1-bit colormap, non-interlaced |
| 09:08.12 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: netpbm isn't stupid... |
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| 09:08.22 | billatq | So does anyone know how to use an orinoco card on woody out of the box? |
| 09:08.33 | billatq | I need to update this thing, but I don't have any network connectivity |
| 09:08.34 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: thanks a lot |
| 09:08.52 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: perfect, http://io.debian.net/~tar/debian/test/ |
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| 09:11.32 | popearz | I just did an apt-get install php4-mysql which should have cleared up my error but same error. Is there something else I have to do to make sure that the changes are put into effect? |
| 09:11.36 | unix_infidel | billatq: i'm sure it just involves the proper kernel module. |
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| 09:11.46 | unix_infidel | i think orinoco_cs |
| 09:11.51 | billatq | hmm |
| 09:11.59 | george_ | for a laptop that is |
| 09:12.05 | unix_infidel | then check dmsesg to make sure that its recognized. |
| 09:12.14 | billatq | I modprob'd orinoco, and it gave me positive things in the messages |
| 09:12.19 | billatq | Though I'll try -cs |
| 09:12.23 | billatq | Since wireless tools isn't showing it |
| 09:12.40 | unix_infidel | not -cs |
| 09:12.41 | george_ | and cs means 32-bit pcmcia card |
| 09:12.45 | unix_infidel | orinoco_cs |
| 09:13.11 | george_ | is that what you have? |
| 09:13.15 | billatq | hmm |
| 09:13.25 | billatq | well, thing is, I'm getting eth0 set up properly |
| 09:13.30 | billatq | But I can't see it in iwconfig for some reason |
| 09:13.44 | billatq | It is the 5V 16-bit card though |
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| 09:13.56 | george_ | is it a pcmcia? |
| 09:14.02 | billatq | Yeah |
| 09:14.22 | george_ | oh, ok... I'm not sure you want the _cs version in that case |
| 09:14.29 | billatq | Yeah, out of it, I get |
| 09:14.46 | billatq | stuff like: "eth0: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 8.72" |
| 09:14.46 | george_ | unless that driver does both types of cards |
| 09:14.56 | billatq | "eth0: Station name "HERMES I" |
| 09:15.03 | billatq | and then ready |
| 09:15.14 | billatq | So everything looks mostly kosher |
| 09:15.36 | unix_infidel | isnt orinico prism2? |
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| 09:16.20 | billatq | well, the hermes and orinoco drivers seem to be related |
| 09:16.37 | george_ | I'll set my dividing line here... I -want- to get into wireless... but I'm not yet... but, I do know about cs is for 32b cards |
| 09:16.56 | unix_infidel | wireless is more trouble than its worth. |
| 09:17.02 | billatq | http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Linux/Q_21736660.html |
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| 09:17.07 | unix_infidel | except in ubuntu where it works outta the box :P |
| 09:17.08 | billatq | Heh, looks like it's this thing |
| 09:17.10 | liable | bah, wireless is good. |
| 09:17.21 | billatq | unix_infidel: It's the only card I've got that works with this thing |
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| 09:17.30 | billatq | alternatives include moving packages back and forth by hand |
| 09:17.37 | billatq | until I can get proper networking up |
| 09:17.49 | popearz | what's the deb equivalent to apachectl restart or /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart? I'm running sarge and apache2 |
| 09:17.52 | unix_infidel | lol. doesnt have ethernet/ |
| 09:17.53 | billatq | granted, at least now I have something that understands the ext2 filesystem |
| 09:17.56 | dingus9 | do I have to make individual rules for udev in order to get it to auto mount? |
| 09:18.06 | liable | popearz: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 09:18.11 | billatq | unix_infidel: Remember, no on-board ethernet, old-and-crusty, so I had to bring it up via hard disk, etc. |
| 09:18.13 | popearz | :-) |
| 09:18.19 | george_ | popearz: look in /etc/init.d |
| 09:18.25 | unix_infidel | billatq: lol, nice. |
| 09:18.27 | liable | popearz: apachectl works though |
| 09:18.42 | popearz | so many choices |
| 09:18.46 | unix_infidel | billatq: i'd give #wireless a try. |
| 09:18.59 | unix_infidel | smart kids in thurr, sometimes. |
| 09:19.12 | popearz | locate apachetl yields zero |
| 09:19.17 | billatq | oh wait, I brought the interface up |
| 09:19.21 | billatq | and now it's being better |
| 09:19.22 | billatq | kinda |
| 09:19.23 | george_ | popearz: look in /etc/init.d |
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| 09:19.35 | billatq | blah |
| 09:19.39 | liable | popearz: did you just install it? |
| 09:19.46 | liable | update-db |
| 09:19.48 | billatq | "Device eth0 has been compiled with a different version of wireless extensions than ours" |
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| 09:19.56 | billatq | And sure enough, things are weird |
| 09:19.59 | egolost | how do I make distcc to use gcc 3.4 instead of 4.0 ? |
| 09:20.05 | liable | err, without the - |
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| 09:20.26 | liable | !EXPORT |
| 09:21.03 | liable | egolost: export CC=GCC-3.4 |
| 09:21.16 | george_ | that won't work |
| 09:21.17 | popearz | Yes I just installed it. |
| 09:21.32 | george_ | export CC=gcc-3.4 |
| 09:21.38 | george_ | has a better chance of workgin |
| 09:21.59 | george_ | try typing gcc and then hit tab a coupla times |
| 09:22.04 | george_ | then you see your choices |
| 09:22.04 | popearz | just installed the php4-mysql package. I've had apache2, php4, and mysql4.1 |
| 09:22.31 | egolost | but isent the CC supposed to be distcc? |
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| 09:22.57 | billatq | whoop! |
| 09:23.00 | billatq | I have networking |
| 09:23.04 | george_ | yeah, maybe the variable you want is DISTCC |
| 09:23.22 | george_ | billatq: what was the problem? |
| 09:23.50 | billatq | george_: I had to bring up the interface and then tell iwconfig to use eth0. It wasn't noticing it for some reason, and funky things are happening because it's not the right version for the kernel |
| 09:23.57 | popearz | thanks guys, sorry dinner is calling. I think I should be able to figure it out when I get back thanks to your help. |
| 09:24.00 | billatq | But it's up, so I can now update and move to sarge |
| 09:24.30 | george_ | billatq: maybe you can put the commands that do that in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:24.48 | lewis2 | how can I get libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 for amd64 etch? |
| 09:24.58 | billatq | george_: I can, it's not a huge deal now that I can update and boot and have enough to go |
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| 09:26.29 | george_ | glad it worked out |
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| 09:29.50 | Beleys | Poy |
| 09:30.01 | george_ | if you don't know how to do that already (it's a special part of an interface spec) man 5 interfaces, look at preup, up, postup (maybe do that after upgrading; there seems to be more stuff available in there under sarge) |
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| 09:32.10 | Thanatermesis | x-window-system is really needed (because is a little big), for install a minimum graphical system ? (for example fluxbox or enlightenment), or i have sufficient with "xbase-clients" for example ? |
| 09:32.35 | jm_ | Thanatermesis: x-window-system-core |
| 09:32.39 | george_ | try x-window-system-core |
| 09:33.02 | george_ | which might not include xbase-clients |
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| 09:33.28 | billatq | http://anatifero.us <--picture of the box that's caused me this much grief |
| 09:33.34 | Thanatermesis | hum... core.. |
| 09:33.35 | billatq | er, http://anatifero.us/tablet.jpg |
| 09:33.39 | Thanatermesis | let me look it... |
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| 09:34.23 | george_ | the phone?? |
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| 09:34.58 | george_ | oh, got it |
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| 09:35.11 | billatq | I don't see a phone in that picture |
| 09:35.17 | jubei | howdy! I've installed debian as a guest on a vmware. I now want to build a custom kernel for it |
| 09:35.25 | george_ | well you do in the first link you posted |
| 09:35.36 | george_ | the boost mobile one |
| 09:35.36 | billatq | Oh, that thing runs java |
| 09:35.37 | Deffie | hi all, i'm installing debian on a tyan gt24, dual opteron, 2gb of ram, hw sata raid (tyan taro controller), there are cd images with kernel support for such systems ? |
| 09:35.46 | george_ | java. wndrfl. |
| 09:35.52 | jubei | anybody ever built a kernel to run on vmware?:) |
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| 09:36.03 | billatq | jubei: It's about the same as anything else |
| 09:36.45 | jubei | well I wanted to build it so that it's more "optimized" for the vmware environment's harwdare, and lose the stuff/modules that I don't need |
| 09:37.01 | george_ | Deffie: start by trying to boot the installer and see your HDs... if you get that far, you're in |
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| 09:38.42 | george_ | then install. if you need something special, wait until you have the ability to build kernels and maybe do that to support the special hw |
| 09:39.16 | george_ | what kind of HDs are they? |
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| 09:40.58 | george_ | why is there an epidemic of people not responding after they ask questions>?? |
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| 09:41.12 | kneet | rsync question. Running "rsync -rv src dest" - it syncs all the files. Run it again immediately and it syncs all the files again. What am I missing here? |
| 09:41.41 | weasel00 | 42 |
| 09:41.43 | weasel00 | :) |
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| 09:46.10 | incorrect | i was wondering if anyone here had used a S-AIT tape drive under debian? |
| 09:46.26 | george_ | what's sait? |
| 09:46.52 | incorrect | its sony's AIT drive |
| 09:47.13 | george_ | not me... but is it scsi? |
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| 09:47.22 | tarzeau | guys, i've got good news! |
| 09:47.22 | incorrect | the linux tape project says its pretty well supported, but i just can't find any good docs on it |
| 09:47.27 | incorrect | its sony |
| 09:47.31 | tarzeau | finally. links2 WILL be ssl enabled... |
| 09:47.31 | incorrect | tarzeau do tell |
| 09:47.35 | george_ | nono |
| 09:47.37 | tarzeau | that'll beat the shit out of firefox |
| 09:47.45 | billatq | I like ultrium2 better, personally |
| 09:47.46 | incorrect | lol |
| 09:47.46 | george_ | what kind of cable and interface does it use? |
| 09:47.51 | tarzeau | incorrect: i'm serious :) |
| 09:48.22 | incorrect | tarzeau well i guess if you can have it in a sexy eterm you will be fine |
| 09:48.44 | tarzeau | incorrect: it can render graphics, try xlinks2 or links2 -g |
| 09:48.53 | incorrect | oh right |
| 09:48.56 | george_ | you saved a buttload of money by switching to geiko? |
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| 09:49.05 | tarzeau | incorrect: and even frames! a much better bookmark and download manager. all languages and JAVASCRIPT |
| 09:49.39 | incorrect | tarzeau, and its console based? |
| 09:49.52 | tarzeau | incorrect: and it can render console only. fb. svgalib too |
| 09:49.52 | billatq | "You must have at least 32MB of memory and 110MB of hard disk space." |
| 09:50.00 | billatq | Hmm, guess that means I wont upgrade to sarge just yet |
| 09:50.01 | tarzeau | incorrect: and it's low-memory |
| 09:50.25 | george_ | why, which requirement is not met? |
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| 09:51.00 | incorrect | i remember my good old 386dx33 with 4mb |
| 09:51.11 | billatq | bill@debian:~$ cat /proc/meminfo | grep -i MemTotal |
| 09:51.11 | billatq | MemTotal: 13684 kB |
| 09:51.12 | incorrect | it was just enough to get slackware on |
| 09:51.44 | billatq | bill@debian:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz |
| 09:51.44 | billatq | cpu MHz : 120.001 |
| 09:51.48 | billatq | That should be fast enough though |
| 09:52.01 | billatq | I've got some EDO ram on the way for this thing though |
| 09:52.11 | george_ | yeah, that shoudn't matter as long as you're patient |
| 09:52.11 | billatq | I have to admit that I like how cheap all the parts for this thing turned out to be |
| 09:52.14 | incorrect | these days you don't need faster and faster cpu's |
| 09:52.18 | george_ | you could add swap space |
| 09:52.28 | billatq | Well, this thing is for a router anyway |
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| 09:52.35 | billatq | So that's more than enough for packet mangling |
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| 09:52.44 | george_ | yeah, they shove em at you like they're desparate for you to have them |
| 09:53.19 | billatq | Heh, I barely met woody's requirements of 12MB of memory |
| 09:53.20 | george_ | it would be nice to have a fair amount of ram in a router |
| 09:53.31 | billatq | I should have 80MB when all is said and done |
| 09:53.41 | george_ | that sounds fine |
| 09:53.44 | billatq | Mostly because they make 128MB modules these days, but I can't get them for $20 on eBay |
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| 09:54.02 | billatq | Yeah, the idea is a mobile router type thing |
| 09:54.23 | billatq | So I'll drop in the wireless card and a cellular modem and then walk around with wifi on my back |
| 09:54.56 | weasel00 | billatq: you going to make a stroller for the batteries? |
| 09:55.15 | george_ | won't the wifi be uncomfortable on your back?? she'll complain! |
| 09:55.17 | billatq | weasel00: Well, that's why it's a tablet machine with a monochrome display |
| 09:55.28 | billatq | weasel00: http://anatifero.us/tablet.jpg |
| 09:55.31 | weasel00 | billatq : i was thinking about the router lol |
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| 09:56.24 | billatq | Anyway, it's far past my bedtime |
| 09:56.36 | Deffie | there are netinstall isos with recent kernels ? |
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| 09:57.08 | josep_ | hi. I've made a script which needs to read and write to /dev/input/event[0-9], which is the best way to set permissions for that? |
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| 09:57.30 | jm_ | josep: maybe create a new group for it |
| 09:57.31 | george_ | using chmod |
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| 09:58.12 | josep_ | I'm using udev, should I change the permissions.rules? |
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| 09:58.26 | jm_ | yes |
| 09:58.53 | josep_ | thx :-) |
| 09:59.23 | incorrect | strange, my SAIT drive says it can hold 500GB while mt-st reports it can only hold 50 |
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| 10:02.38 | tehhh | a major problem in australia guys ;-)) i tried to modprobe -r iptable_nat, now modprobe is using 99% cpu and can't be killed even with -9, any idea? |
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| 10:06.48 | PSparrow | hi |
| 10:07.25 | PSparrow | something very strange is happening in my computer |
| 10:07.39 | PSparrow | i dont know if it is a bug, a virus, or something else |
| 10:08.16 | PSparrow | where can I ask abount strange behaviours? |
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| 10:08.43 | weasel00 | whats happening.. it might be just fine? -) |
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| 10:09.40 | PSparrow | happens some things... |
| 10:09.46 | PSparrow | the more simple is md5sum |
| 10:09.52 | PSparrow | usually works well |
| 10:10.08 | PSparrow | but there are some files that has 2 md5sums |
| 10:10.25 | PSparrow | sometimes md5sum said one and other times say other |
| 10:10.27 | PSparrow | but only 2 |
| 10:10.40 | PSparrow | so its not a memory failure |
| 10:12.05 | debshine | hello world -- just finished my first debian (sarge) install have a couple questions |
| 10:12.05 | PSparrow | the other thing happens when I compile the kernel |
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| 10:12.06 | PSparrow | gcc fails when compiling some files |
| 10:12.07 | george_ | !enter |
| 10:12.07 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 10:12.09 | PSparrow | but if I try do compile it again gcc do it goo |
| 10:12.18 | PSparrow | ...sorry... |
| 10:12.48 | PSparrow | sometimes the kernes is compiled perfectly and somethimes I have to retry |
| 10:13.02 | PSparrow | the error is something like... internal error... |
| 10:13.06 | debshine | i just set up a basic server install and added x-window-system and then xfce. i need a terminal with tabs, can anyone point one out? |
| 10:13.32 | debshine | withouth installing kde or gnome specific stuff? |
| 10:13.36 | LsD- | hmm when i try to mount my camera i get an error 'wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error' in syslog i see 'Unable to load NLS charset iso8859-1 FAT: IO charset iso8859-1 not found' how can i fix this? |
| 10:14.03 | PSparrow | weasel00, Do you have an idea? |
| 10:14.06 | george_ | looks like the problem is missing code page |
| 10:14.09 | PSparrow | where can I ask? |
| 10:14.33 | LsD- | george_, yea but how can i fix it |
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| 10:14.46 | george_ | install or build that codepage |
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| 10:15.03 | neo_ | Hiall |
| 10:15.08 | neo_ | Hi all |
| 10:15.15 | weasel00 | PSparrow : not really some one else here might though... i would guess would be to download from another mirror and reinstall. but thats just my bad guess |
| 10:15.18 | george_ | also the charset is not found? hmm, maybe there are multiple problems |
| 10:16.06 | LsD- | yeh :/ |
| 10:16.06 | PSparrow | ok, thanks, i'll try to ask in some lists |
| 10:16.08 | neo_ | I'm tryng to install my sql and when I did the ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mysql |
| 10:16.43 | debshine | anyone -- tab-based terminal? |
| 10:16.56 | neo_ | It all worked until it got to this line: |
| 10:16.57 | neo_ | checking for termcap functions library... configure: error: No curses/termcap library found |
| 10:17.00 | tehhh | a major problem in australia guys ;-)) i tried to modprobe -r iptable_nat, now modprobe is using 99% cpu and can't be killed even with -9, any idea? |
| 10:17.20 | george_ | you -could- just install the mysql package... but then again you could also install postgres which is worth looking into |
| 10:17.51 | neo_ | but I'm trying to install it and I got this message! |
| 10:18.05 | neo_ | how do I fix it? |
| 10:19.07 | SlayerXP | neo_: install a curses or termcap library |
| 10:20.28 | neo_ | Well I thought of that. but where? |
| 10:20.43 | liran | i'm seeing on netstat apache, postfix and sshd listening on tcp6 :::80, :::23, etc... this means they're working on ipv6? |
| 10:20.56 | tehhh | liran yes |
| 10:21.09 | debshine | well then - is there a way to launch synaptic from terminal as normal user? i try sudo synaptic and get Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 10:21.37 | liran | tehhh, can i go back to working with ipv4? |
| 10:21.39 | SlayerXP | neo_: if you can't figure this out, then you should just use binary packages. |
| 10:21.51 | liran | debshine, setup your $DISPLAY environment to read :0.0 |
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| 10:22.20 | tehhh | liran i'm sure they listen ipv4 too |
| 10:22.25 | debshine | liran, like that $DISPLAY 0:0 ? |
| 10:22.53 | liran | debshine, export DISPLAY=:0.0 - see if this works |
| 10:23.00 | liran | tehhh, not from what im seeing on netstat |
| 10:23.03 | LsD- | ahh george_ i figured it out... not compiled into kernel :/ |
| 10:23.06 | neo_ | SlayerXP, I looked in the repos and found termcap-compat |
| 10:23.13 | liran | tehhh, what are the consequences of these services listenin on ipv6 anyway? |
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| 10:23.25 | tehhh | liran try ipv4 connection and you will see. |
| 10:23.26 | mathieu | hi, my locale environment vars are set to en_US.UTF-8, but apps like bash and man still produce french output. what setting do i need to check? |
| 10:23.31 | SlayerXP | neo_: why are you compiling? |
| 10:23.48 | liran | tehhh, i can connect with ipv4 but im saying that i only see them runing as ipv6 :) |
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| 10:24.03 | neo_ | because I want the practise |
| 10:24.11 | debshine | liran, nope same error |
| 10:24.22 | sebkron | \join python |
| 10:24.26 | sebkron | \join #python |
| 10:24.27 | SlayerXP | neo_: then practice solving your own problems at the same time then :) |
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| 10:24.43 | LsD- | lol |
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| 10:25.06 | tehhh | liran that's ipv4+ipv6 for sure:) i just do ip6tables -P INPUT (OUTPUT and FORWARD) DROP |
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| 10:25.55 | snapy | hello, is anybody here familiar with OpenOffice UNO programming interface? (openoffice.org-dev package) |
| 10:25.59 | liran | debshine, try xhost + |
| 10:26.04 | debshine | is this the wrong channel? is there a more debian-n00b friendly channel? |
| 10:26.07 | tehhh | liran the consequences ... if you have that daemon listening to both ipv4 and ipv6 and you've done your firewall for only ipv4, ipv6 capable device that can reach you, may use it |
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| 10:26.53 | debshine | liran, cheers but i'd rather not screw with xhost. i've heard security issues |
| 10:27.13 | george_ | xhost lets everyone do everything moreorless |
| 10:27.53 | debshine | george_, thought so. isn't there a way to get synaptic to run. i tried as root and user. but display error? |
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| 10:28.56 | george_ | we can' |
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| 10:29.31 | george_ | we can't see the error unless you tell us... if it's long (more than 4 lines) use something like http://rafb.net/paste |
| 10:29.46 | george_ | anyways I'm out |
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| 10:30.31 | debshine | so -- a more newbie friendly channel for deb? |
| 10:30.57 | liran | right |
| 10:30.58 | liran | ok thanks |
| 10:30.59 | neo_ | where would I find ncurses-devel? |
| 10:31.04 | debshine | i got synptic running with gksu but gksudo still gave me erorrs. is there a reason for this? debian don't like sudo? |
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| 10:31.19 | neo_ | it doesn't seem to be in the repos |
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| 10:32.09 | debshine | ok one last question. mabye someone can point me to the right place. where do i get a list of official repos? |
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| 10:32.40 | quitte | i setup a firewall that i'm pretty happy with - but at least one of the users is a gamer. is there any better way to make him happy but allowing outgoing udp and tcp high ports? |
| 10:33.28 | debshine | official repositories? |
| 10:33.45 | debshine | can someone at least tell me what they have. newbie hear. just trying to learn. cheers |
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| 10:39.01 | quitte | debshine: if you asked only one question at a time it was easier to answer. man sudo |
| 10:39.01 | liran | im thinking that ssh is replying back in ipv6 (cause its listenin on ipv6) and i have hosts that don't support it. how do i turn it back to listen on ipv4? |
| 10:39.01 | debshine | man sudo? |
| 10:39.01 | debshine | official repositories. i'm passed the sudo part. |
| 10:39.01 | quitte | yes |
| 10:39.03 | Hessophanes | liran: man sshd_config, Listen directive. :) |
| 10:39.04 | Hessophanes | liran: Sorry - ListenAddress. |
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| 10:39.05 | orchid | debshine: try apt-setup |
| 10:39.06 | debshine | quitte, out of curiousity, any specific part of the sudo man page i should look at? |
| 10:39.06 | domster | Could somebody please paste me the Debian-exim lines of /etc/passwd and /etc/groups on a vanilla Sarge build? - I've just deluser'd Debian-exim and realised it was a bad idea when I started getting dpkg errors :-( |
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| 10:39.09 | Hessophanes | liran: But the client chooses whether ipv4 or ipv6 is used - sshd can't reply back "using the wrong protocol". |
| 10:39.11 | quitte | debshine: drink less coffee and don't rush things. and read the whole manpage. |
| 10:39.12 | debshine | orchid, thanks, but i think i went through that during the install a few hours ago |
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| 10:39.15 | orchid | domster: Debian-exim:x:102:102::/var/spool/exim4:/bin/false |
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| 10:39.16 | domster | thanks orchid |
| 10:39.16 | Keloran|Work | how can i fix this ??, http://pastebin.com/607096 |
| 10:39.18 | debshine | quitte, i don't drink coffeee. i'm just glad that i got my first debian up and running |
| 10:39.19 | Zugschlus | domster: careful, the UID is dynamically determined |
| 10:39.19 | orchid | domster: and groups Debian-exim:x:102: |
| 10:39.19 | domster | oh |
| 10:39.20 | Zugschlus | don't copy verbatim |
| 10:39.20 | orchid | yeah watch the uid |
| 10:39.21 | domster | Zugschlus: yeah, I'll check for a missing uid |
| 10:39.25 | quitte | debshine: congratulations. |
| 10:39.59 | debshine | quitte, ya - cheers. now on to the hard part. learning without the ubuntu hand-holding |
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| 10:40.00 | quitte | debshine: if you don't rush things it could well be the last time that you had to install an os on that machine |
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| 10:40.44 | debshine | can i ask one last thing? |
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| 10:41.08 | debshine | a hint on what packages i'm going to need to install stuff from source? |
| 10:41.09 | fireba11 | Keloran|Work: did you mix packages from different debian versions ? |
| 10:41.34 | Keloran|Work | fireba11, most likelly, debians stuff is more confusing than Gentoo's |
| 10:42.12 | quitte | debshine: usually you don't want to do that. or you read the new maintainer guide. build-essential is a good package to start with if you really think you need anything from source |
| 10:42.33 | Keloran|Work | if there was a set path, e.g. all config files go in /etc/conf, then it would be easier, but you just seem to install everywhere |
| 10:42.42 | debshine | build-essential -- cool, that was an ubuntu package too. cheers. |
| 10:42.59 | fireba11 | Keloran|Work ? |
| 10:43.04 | quitte | Keloran|Work: actually file hierarchy is pretty much standardized in debian |
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| 10:43.38 | Keloran|Work | k then must just be my dist, cause stuff seems to be randomly installed, instead of set paths |
| 10:44.07 | quitte | Keloran|Work: what do you mean with set paths? |
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| 10:44.37 | quitte | Keloran|Work: you cannot choose where stuff is installed |
| 10:45.20 | Keloran|Work | in gentoo, all configs are set in /etc/conf/<package>, e.g /etc/conf/apache, /etc/conf/gimp,, yeah you can choose where to install stuff, but the paths are so logical there is no reason to choose a different place |
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| 10:46.49 | quitte | Keloran|Work: all system wide configuration is in /etc in debian,too. packages that have more than one config file there often make a subdir there. |
| 10:46.56 | neo_ | HURRAY!!! I did it! |
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| 10:47.16 | quitte | neo_: the matrix is gone? we are now free? |
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| 10:47.25 | neo_ | lol |
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| 10:47.29 | YogSothoth | Hi |
| 10:47.32 | Keloran|Work | so how can i fix my problem |
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| 10:47.41 | neo_ | my box is called the matrix |
| 10:47.55 | quitte | Keloran|Work: what is your problem? |
| 10:48.04 | neo_ | but I got MySQL to get over a really annoying error |
| 10:48.06 | YogSothoth | I'm trying to use rdump but the backup server rejects me: why? http://rafb.net/paste/results/CCPIJ576.html |
| 10:48.28 | YogSothoth | I am able to mount it so why can't I directly connect rdump to it? |
| 10:48.48 | neo_ | actually, if SlayerXP is here still I'd like to thank him for not giving me the answer. |
| 10:48.50 | quitte | neo_: so you kind of had a problem with matrices,even |
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| 10:49.05 | SlayerXP | neo_: my pleasure. |
| 10:49.11 | neo_ | You could say that |
| 10:49.17 | neo_ | I really mean it though |
| 10:49.18 | Keloran|Work | quitte, , http://pastebin.com/607096 |
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| 10:50.03 | neo_ | I too often rush to get someone else to fix my problems and I actually researched and fixed my own this time! |
| 10:50.10 | neo_ | what a rush! |
| 10:50.12 | SlayerXP | neo_: any time you want answers to questions that a hamster could learn to ask google for, come here and ask me. I'll be sure to point that out. |
| 10:50.23 | SlayerXP | neo_: and I mean it too, really. |
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| 10:50.42 | neo_ | lol |
| 10:50.45 | quitte | Keloran|Work: did you mix debian with some other distribution? |
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| 10:52.43 | neo_ | Wow. I just typed make and boy is it taking it's time! |
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| 10:53.01 | Keloran|Work | quitte, Symphony according to the site, is Debian and Knoppix mixed |
| 10:53.12 | Ronin | Keloran|Work: on purpose? ick |
| 10:53.13 | rage | I was just thinking earlier today, there are a number of circumstances where I've come into possesion of old redhat servers which are physically inaccessable, I wonder if theres a way I can install Debian remotely from within Redhat :-) |
| 10:53.14 | quitte | !debian based |
| 10:53.14 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Xebian, Ubuntu, Mepis, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. We're supporting Debian, let your distro's support network support it. Ask me about "d-i". |
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| 10:53.26 | sep | !debtakover |
| 10:53.49 | Keloran|Work | Ronin, yeah it seems so |
| 10:53.56 | sep | !debtakeover |
| 10:53.56 | dpkg | Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin. |
| 10:54.02 | Keloran|Work | Symphony OS is a Desktop computer operating system based on Debian GNU/Linux and Knoppix GNU/Linux. |
| 10:54.07 | Ronin | i suggest backingup data then installing debian on it if at all possible |
| 10:54.11 | rage | Haha, sep, awesome :-) |
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| 10:54.21 | sep | rage, have good backups in place first. |
| 10:54.36 | neo_ | I used to use Ubuntu but a friend sugested I try Debian. |
| 10:54.45 | quitte | Keloran|Work: i agree with Ronin |
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| 10:54.57 | neo_ | I've never looked back |
| 10:55.00 | rage | Indeed, I could get phsyical access to the machines, but often a remote install is a lot more appealing than the organisations red tape I'd have to cut through |
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| 10:56.00 | rubajat | hi |
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| 10:56.36 | rubajat | I'm sorry for asking a trivial question, but how can I join python channel? |
| 10:56.42 | incorrect | does anyone know where i can get a more recent snmpd package than the one that is in sarge, doesn't appear to be one on backports or apt-get |
| 10:56.45 | Keloran|Work | im defatlly thinking about just getting the Gentoo live disk, installing and sticking mezzo on that, cause Debian is annoying me |
| 10:57.02 | Ronin | Keloran|Work: well seeing as your not running debian no wonder your gettingannoyed |
| 10:57.08 | Keloran|Work | lol |
| 10:57.12 | Ronin | rubajat: same way you joined here? /j #python |
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| 10:57.31 | neo_ | ronin, does /j work? |
| 10:57.39 | neo_ | I always use /join |
| 10:57.53 | Ronin | it should but heck /join will always work :) |
| 10:57.53 | Keloran|Work | on xchat, irssi, mIRC, yeah /j works |
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| 10:58.03 | rubajat | Ronin: Of course, I tried this. But I'm getting answer: :You need to be identified to join that channel |
| 10:58.16 | Ronin | rubajat: /msg nickserv help |
| 10:58.18 | Keloran|Work | rubajat, register then |
| 10:58.22 | neo_ | Well I only ever use mIRC and Xchat so... woohoo! |
| 10:58.36 | neo_ | Oh there! it finally stopped! |
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| 10:59.15 | dglerum | _ |
| 10:59.17 | neo_ | and now for # make install oh dear... |
| 10:59.42 | rubajat | Ronin: thanks.. I made it :) |
| 10:59.48 | Ronin | :) |
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| 11:02.08 | ma3x | can I chop off the end (10 MB) of a 6 GB file without having to copy the big file once again? |
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| 11:03.50 | Hessophanes | ma3x: dd if=big/file bs=32K of=tail/of/it skip=5990M |
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| 11:04.40 | unix_infidel | wtf, Openoffice doesnt support password protection on MS office files....? |
| 11:04.44 | unix_infidel | what a jip! |
| 11:04.56 | hipodilski | Hi there is there a text based bulletin board system for debian ? |
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| 11:05.15 | snapy | hello (again), is anybody familiar with IDLC in openoffice.org-dev? |
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| 11:05.46 | neo_ | No, sorry |
| 11:05.47 | Hessophanes | (ma3x: have a look at 'man dd' to adjust the parameters) |
| 11:05.59 | dglerum | me nether |
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| 11:06.09 | telenieko | Hi! I'm trying to get libnss-ldap to get users and groups from an Active Directory. I did everything i could, but when I do "getent passwd" tcpdump shows that getent get stuff from the AD but only 'files' are written to stdout. Any clues there? :) |
| 11:06.15 | neo_ | Where is the file that contains all the startup instructions? |
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| 11:10.34 | cmcq | ma3x: i think you could do perl -e 'truncate "file", 5990*1024*1024 or die "$!"', but i haven't tried it with big files |
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| 11:11.13 | Silent_al | .צדע גפלע מהןגןש |
| 11:11.17 | Silent_al | oops |
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| 11:12.03 | Hessophanes | thx weasel ;) |
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| 11:15.18 | weasel00 | haha.. rule#312: avoid all job offers that offer payment via paypal.. lmao |
| 11:16.26 | neo_ | If I wanted to make sure that mysql was started every time I boot debian, which file would I need to change? |
| 11:16.41 | unix_infidel | what's this userid thing gpg keeps on asking me for why I try to encrypt a file symmetrically using twofish. |
| 11:17.08 | Hessophanes | neo_: Just make sure there's a symlink to /etc/init.d/mysql in /etc/rc<your runlevel>.d |
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| 11:17.32 | Hessophanes | ... that's called S<two digit number>mysql. |
| 11:17.37 | unix_infidel | anyone? |
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| 11:22.19 | crazy_penguin | can anyone tell me the name of a good cd/dvd recovery tool? |
| 11:22.31 | crazy_penguin | and were can i find it |
| 11:23.07 | vira | http://trinityhome.org/trk/ |
| 11:23.30 | crazy_penguin | thanks |
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| 11:25.50 | weasel00 | i wonder we could hear a pin drop |
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| 11:27.17 | azau | hey |
| 11:27.21 | weissi | ho |
| 11:27.26 | neo_ | Hi, sorry could someone remind me how I change my password? |
| 11:27.32 | weissi | passwd |
| 11:27.38 | bibe | neo_ : passwd |
| 11:27.40 | weasel00 | neo_ : bah too slow =P |
| 11:27.54 | Fox | hi |
| 11:27.58 | neo_ | just passwd? |
| 11:27.59 | neo_ | hi |
| 11:28.00 | unix_infidel | i think that warrants a big fat booyah. |
| 11:28.02 | weissi | yes |
| 11:28.07 | unix_infidel | neo_: man passwd ;) |
| 11:28.15 | azau | i'm a novice |
| 11:28.25 | cmcq | gnome desktop preferences > about me > change password |
| 11:28.31 | azau | i know bothing about my OS |
| 11:28.41 | unix_infidel | and fonts, so so pretty :) |
| 11:28.47 | weasel00 | unix_infidel : are still twinking that? |
| 11:28.57 | weasel00 | tweaking* argh |
| 11:29.01 | unix_infidel | weasel00: lol, nope, just admiring now :) |
| 11:29.19 | unix_infidel | heh, gotta have the right impetus to avoid learning python. |
| 11:29.49 | weasel00 | i like my classy green on black.. im nastalgic so what? |
| 11:29.59 | unix_infidel | lol, no that's matrix style :P |
| 11:30.21 | unix_infidel | i actually have an old terminal that served as an contact list management terminal :P |
| 11:30.28 | weasel00 | matrix? pffffft... monchrome monitors booya |
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| 11:31.22 | unix_infidel | ugh, i honestly dont see how you people just LEARN programming...so tedious. |
| 11:31.27 | neo_ | My terminal is green and black |
| 11:31.42 | unix_infidel | my terminal is grey and white, as is my new gvim color schema. |
| 11:31.43 | unix_infidel | :) |
| 11:32.01 | weasel00 | green font on black is easier on the eyes... =) |
| 11:32.25 | neo_ | I have a question about SSH. It it possible to login to a computer that is turned on but not logged on? |
| 11:32.28 | unix_infidel | you know your a nerd when....you're up on IRC at 0530 debating what font color is cooler for your $TERM |
| 11:32.35 | weasel00 | neo_ : yes |
| 11:32.35 | unix_infidel | neo_: sure. |
| 11:32.58 | weasel00 | unix_infidel : whose debating? youre wrong and im right. *shrug* |
| 11:33.26 | neo_ | awesome, I was worried I would have to tell my dad my password and get him to turn on the computer for me! |
| 11:33.32 | Hessophanes | Don't worry, I |
| 11:33.39 | Hessophanes | 'm fine. *argh, spurious Enter* |
| 11:34.00 | neo_ | Also, you know how apt-get and aptitude require a CD being put in if thats how they are setup? |
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| 11:34.21 | unix_infidel | neo_: generally i just remove the cd from sources. |
| 11:34.22 | weasel00 | neo_ : your dad will have to "turn on" the computer for you ;) |
| 11:34.34 | Hessophanes | I'm glad it's 1230 here, so I can engage in any debates you're up to without regrets. ;) |
| 11:34.51 | weasel00 | 0330 here ;) |
| 11:34.56 | unix_infidel | neo_: you are on a static ip? |
| 11:35.07 | weasel00 | Hessophanes : IST good idea or bad idea? |
| 11:35.11 | unix_infidel | meh i'm on spring break here, ive totally wasted it, havent even gotten dunk yet. |
| 11:35.19 | neo_ | I know he will have to press the on switch but he's never used UNIx or Linux before so he'd have no ideaywell If I use SSH, can I insert the CD |
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| 11:35.41 | neo_ | oops two messages got squished! |
| 11:35.45 | Hessophanes | IST? |
| 11:35.58 | weasel00 | Hessophanes : internet standard time |
| 11:36.02 | neo_ | Yes static |
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| 11:36.39 | neo_ | Oh wait, it's changed again! |
| 11:36.44 | neo_ | not static then |
| 11:36.54 | neo_ | ah shit |
| 11:37.03 | unix_infidel | i think i need to get a dyndns account to manage my shit. |
| 11:37.15 | neo_ | I'm on ADSL, I thought that was Static! |
| 11:37.15 | unix_infidel | i've got DSL here and it sucks having a dynamic IP. |
| 11:37.18 | weasel00 | unix_infidel.kicks-ass.net << |
| 11:37.26 | unix_infidel | so kind of you :) |
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| 11:37.48 | weasel00 | kicks-ass.net is owned by dyndns.org.. you should grab it before i do *evil laugh* |
| 11:38.08 | unix_infidel | *shrug* |
| 11:38.27 | neo_ | Oh no... I can't SSH if I don't know my own address! |
| 11:38.44 | unix_infidel | neo_: lol, ask your dad to log into the router and findout. |
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| 11:38.53 | neo_ | find out what? |
| 11:38.55 | unix_infidel | your ip. |
| 11:39.02 | neo_ | It changes! |
| 11:39.20 | weasel00 | neo_ : does he have another computer that he is allowed ot use? |
| 11:39.23 | unix_infidel | usually it doesnt change once you've logged in or change every 10 minutes or so. |
| 11:39.46 | klis | It changes |
| 11:39.52 | neo_ | oh, so as long as the router stays on, the address stays the same? |
| 11:39.53 | klis | salve |
| 11:39.54 | unix_infidel | how do i find out my external ip form a term? |
| 11:39.59 | unix_infidel | from* |
| 11:40.10 | weasel00 | its the modem staying on, not the router |
| 11:40.13 | neo_ | why not go to one of the websites that tell you? |
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| 11:40.22 | weasel00 | http://www.whatismyip.com/ << tell you your ip |
| 11:40.26 | klis | italia |
| 11:40.27 | unix_infidel | neo_: heh, i know of those, wondering if there was a better day. |
| 11:40.45 | weasel00 | !it |
| 11:40.45 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 11:41.13 | neo_ | So I'm gonna have to buy a domain name! |
| 11:41.17 | neo_ | damn. |
| 11:41.28 | weasel00 | neo_ : check out dyndns.org |
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| 11:41.39 | unix_infidel | neo_: yea....'m gonna need to do that too. |
| 11:41.42 | unix_infidel | its free service. |
| 11:41.57 | unix_infidel | i dont really see the advantage of it though, other than mpd and icecast :P |
| 11:42.38 | weasel00 | its easier for my then yelling at someone for reseting the modem on me |
| 11:43.27 | neo_ | Is it free? |
| 11:43.30 | unix_infidel | neo_: yes. |
| 11:43.34 | neo_ | WOW! |
| 11:43.49 | weasel00 | neo_ : make the check out to Weasel00... |
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| 11:44.10 | neo_ | cheque |
| 11:44.14 | neo_ | not check |
| 11:44.42 | neo_ | So what exactly do they do? |
| 11:45.24 | unix_infidel | neo_: they allow you attach your ip to a name that you can query via ssh. |
| 11:45.39 | unix_infidel | and you just set your router to use that service. |
| 11:45.57 | weasel00 | neo_ : check out the site.. its well explained, from choosing a name to setting up your server to update the name to your external ip incase it changes |
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| 11:46.09 | neo_ | Oh. my dad won't let me near the router... |
| 11:46.19 | unix_infidel | neo_: lol, hack it :) |
| 11:46.37 | unix_infidel | reset it and set it up yourself :) |
| 11:46.38 | unix_infidel | LOL |
| 11:46.42 | unix_infidel | easy hack. |
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| 11:49.09 | weasel00 | neo_ : http://larping.kicks-ass.net .. dev account for an old project.. point is the ip changes all the time and never worrie about it =) |
| 11:49.27 | weasel00 | spelling + beer = bad |
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| 11:54.59 | tarzeau | i so love opencubicplayer! |
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| 11:55.38 | Hessophanes | weasel00: Ah, I had to read up on that (IST). Nice concept! |
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| 11:56.28 | weasel00 | Hessophanes : i think swatch was the first to make the concept really popular.. though i dont recall it gaining much appeal past gaming communities |
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| 12:00.48 | EmleyMoor | I have multiple tiff files I want to send to my insurance company - what's the easiest way for me to turn them into, say, a pdf? |
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| 12:04.44 | dvm1981 | EmleyMoor: With 'convert' ? |
| 12:04.59 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... my answer seems to be tiffcp then tiff2pdf |
| 12:06.49 | dvm1981 | EmleyMoor: Is that an possible option to convert that 'tiff' to an 'jpeg' file?? So the images would be smaller? |
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| 12:07.24 | EmleyMoor | Quality is vital, I'm afraid |
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| 12:07.44 | dvm1981 | EmleyMoor: jpg with so less compression |
| 12:08.08 | neo_ | I thought yo said it was free? |
| 12:08.18 | neo_ | it's asking me to pay for it! |
| 12:08.32 | EmleyMoor | neo_: Pay for what? |
| 12:08.37 | Fox | neo_: what are you talking about ? |
| 12:09.08 | neo_ | the address! |
| 12:09.08 | dvm1981 | EmleyMoor: If quality is really needed, send it then like it's already in tiff. Post that somethings and give him the link to download it? |
| 12:09.08 | weasel00 | neo_ : your looking at the advanced features |
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| 12:09.36 | neo_ | Sorry just realized |
| 12:09.37 | weasel00 | neo_ : gimme a sec ill walk you through it |
| 12:09.46 | incorrect | hmmm if you need to ask about these sorts of things you shouldn't be doing really |
| 12:09.53 | streuner | weasel: 'advanced features'? |
| 12:09.55 | weasel00 | neo_ shoot me apm |
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| 12:10.19 | dvm1981 | EmleyMoor: How big is all the things there? |
| 12:10.21 | streuner | what the hell is going on here? |
| 12:10.33 | citral | week-end |
| 12:10.43 | EmleyMoor | Combined tiff is just short of 10 megabytes |
| 12:10.46 | he1ix | hi, i'm a little bit confused: is 'found #bugnr version' via control@bugs.d.o intended to being used by ordinary users that report a bug, by package-maintainer only, or both ?!? |
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| 12:11.01 | neo_ | I just set up an address |
| 12:11.01 | weasel00 | neo_ : ok then.. top right corner is the "sign up now" link. start there |
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| 12:11.10 | weasel00 | im off late all -) |
| 12:11.16 | streuner | citral: haha |
| 12:11.24 | neo_ | seeya |
| 12:11.25 | dvm1981 | EmleyMoor: Or simply, burn it on an CD, and give it him?? Try to find an alternative solution :-/ |
| 12:11.25 | Hessophanes | he1ix: You may do so, sure. |
| 12:11.25 | citral | let me guess... dyndns ? |
| 12:11.30 | neo_ | yep |
| 12:12.01 | citral | choose a nice hostname :) |
| 12:12.03 | he1ix | Hessophanes: alright, thanks. :) (already did so and started thinking afterwards...) |
| 12:12.06 | Hessophanes | he1ix: You're just supplying additional information... and control@b.d.o is open for everyone. :) |
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| 12:12.30 | he1ix | Hessophanes: ok, that's what i thought of it. |
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| 12:13.23 | neo_ | so now can what do I do? |
| 12:13.31 | he1ix | Hessophanes: so, thanks for answering my act-and-then-start-thinking-question ;) |
| 12:13.32 | neo_ | sorry, what do I do now? |
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| 12:14.57 | weasel00_zzz | neo_ : as soon as you find out the ip at home, setup the computer with an auto-ip update app and point it at your domain. badda bing badda bang |
| 12:16.26 | neo_ | Oh I'm confused and I didn't sleep at all last night! |
| 12:16.35 | neo_ | Okay got to go now. |
| 12:17.01 | Hessophanes | Thx weasel! I'll return the favour next time. :) |
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| 12:17.21 | rlm | hello all |
| 12:17.37 | rlm | how change default iocharset and codepage in gnome-volume-manager? |
| 12:17.38 | rlm | i am change this in hal config: |
| 12:17.42 | rlm | volume.policy.mount_option.codepage=koi8-r = true (bool) |
| 12:17.46 | rlm | volume.policy.mount_option.iocharset=cp1251 = true (bool) |
| 12:17.49 | rlm | and restart dbus/gnome-volume-manager |
| 12:17.54 | rlm | result: |
| 12:17.58 | rlm | /dev/sda1 on /media/TOSHIBA2G04 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077) |
| 12:18.01 | rlm | help |
| 12:18.03 | rlm | anybody |
| 12:20.17 | Shadur | ... Why would they want Zend optimizer? They can't even fucking *spell* it, let alone know what it is... |
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| 12:21.12 | einsteinmg | hi all |
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| 12:21.52 | gartt | These messengers are plain stupid |
| 12:22.03 | gartt | google messenger, aim, msnim, yahoo... |
| 12:22.12 | gartt | And all the problems people have with specific messengers |
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| 12:22.31 | gartt | Have the same protocols and workings of instant messaging. Then any/all messengers could be used to talk/store contacts among others. People then could actually choose a messenger because they liked it more than the rest, not just because they have at least one friend on another messenger |
| 12:22.51 | einsteinmg | hmm... firehol does create a very strange ruleset, allowing services not noted in configfile... |
| 12:22.59 | EmleyMoor | Jabber is the one true IM |
| 12:23.00 | gartt | Lucky for me I use gaim to manage multiple messengers - If I had to individually launch the equivalents of google's messenger, yahoo, msn and aol, I'd be twice as pissed |
| 12:23.13 | Shadur | gartt: hear, hear. |
| 12:23.14 | gartt | EmleyMoor: I like it, although I don't use it |
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| 12:23.25 | einsteinmg | has anyone looked at the firewall rules created by firehol? |
| 12:23.40 | Shadur | EmleyMoor: Except for the fact that you'd have to have an account on the same jabber server as your friends. |
| 12:23.42 | gartt | It's just rediculous having to run another messenger just because your friend has that particular one |
| 12:23.50 | gartt | With no universality |
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| 12:23.58 | EmleyMoor | Shadur: No you don't |
| 12:24.03 | Shadur | And nowadays everyone and their fscking dog run their own jabber server. Which kind of defeats the point. |
| 12:24.16 | gartt | Christ- even phone text messaging is universal. They can't do the same with im clients? |
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| 12:24.36 | jm_ | who needs IM when we have IRC |
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| 12:24.52 | Shadur | Oh, yes, and you can tell your jabber server what all your other IM accounts and passwords are and it will link to those as well for you. Brilliant idea, that. |
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| 12:25.06 | gartt | jm_: Friends who use im |
| 12:25.23 | rrdf | hi, I seem to have problems with installing debian on a sun machine.. during setup there are dependency problems with some package called I think e2fs..I cannot install other packages |
| 12:25.24 | gartt | Shadur: Really? |
| 12:25.29 | Jimz | Im doing a netinstall and it fails at the first download (trys to get apt), the nic shows on ifconfig with the right ip etc, but im not sure whats up - can anyone help? |
| 12:25.39 | gartt | Sounds neat- too bad others don't use it to |
| 12:25.39 | Shadur | gartt: Word is that the gtalk team hired one of Gaim's top developers to make the gtalk jabber extensions work with gaim. |
| 12:25.41 | gartt | too* |
| 12:25.41 | plbgnr_ | hello, does anybody use hp usb printer? I have troubles with setting HPLIP/HPIJS; your /etc/cups/printers.conf will help...pls |
| 12:25.57 | jm_ | rrdf: /msg dpkg e2fsprogs loop |
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| 12:26.05 | streuner | rrdf: check out www.debian.org and a ML |
| 12:26.09 | streuner | oh |
| 12:26.17 | rrdf | ML? |
| 12:26.26 | streuner | mailing-list |
| 12:26.42 | gartt | Shadur: Cool |
| 12:26.44 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: Yes, i have an working USB HP 3550 here |
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| 12:26.46 | liable | Jimz: can you ping from it? |
| 12:26.59 | streuner | jm_: do you think there are the same problems in sparc than in i386? |
| 12:27.17 | jm_ | streuner: most likely, he can verify it himself anyway |
| 12:27.47 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981:ok super, can put here output from hp-probe command? |
| 12:27.54 | Jimz | I can ping it from another computer, but the netinstall doesnt seem to have the ping command |
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| 12:28.34 | liable | Jimz: net-inst or business card iso? |
| 12:28.39 | Jimz | net-inst |
| 12:29.02 | rrdf | I also seem to have a problem with 3.1r1 sarge on sun.. dvd not recognized. I now have a testing versionwhere it is recognized.. though I had to skip the keyboard konfig |
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| 12:29.25 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: http://pastebin.ca/46017 |
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| 12:29.48 | liable | Jimz: ok, go back, skip network setup and let it install from cd, get a base system and try from there. |
| 12:30.00 | rrdf | Is the Sun keyboard and DVD-CDROM issue with sun blade 100 known at debian? Would like to run stable version not testing |
| 12:30.26 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: But i think that it would not help you :-/. thinking how i have set that up. I forget it :-/ |
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| 12:31.21 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981:ok thanks and can you put content of /etc/cups/printers.conf there? |
| 12:31.23 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: It was autodetected after installing an application i think |
| 12:31.25 | jm_ | rrdf: is that USB keyboard? |
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| 12:31.52 | Jimz | liable : i get back to the main menu after it fails to download, try the "Install the base system" option and it goes through it again trying to download |
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| 12:32.06 | rrdf | yes USB Keyboard |
| 12:32.07 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: http://pastebin.ca/46020 |
| 12:32.12 | jm_ | Jimz: netinstall CD has base on the CD itself ... |
| 12:32.23 | jm_ | rrdf: try using 2.6 kernel |
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| 12:32.55 | liable | Jimz: take the iface down first |
| 12:33.02 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: Help that? |
| 12:33.09 | manu__ | ubuntu |
| 12:33.12 | manu__ | spanish |
| 12:33.21 | liable | debian |
| 12:33.24 | liable | english |
| 12:33.29 | streuner | manu: don't abuse us |
| 12:33.30 | dvm1981 | And really good^^ |
| 12:33.38 | dvm1981 | liable: :-) |
| 12:33.56 | rrdf | ubuntu is the only distri until now in version 6.04 where keyboard and dvd rom is recognized and it has kernel 2.6 for sparc nor 2.4 |
| 12:34.12 | manu__ | dont speking spanishh |
| 12:34.21 | jm_ | Debian doesn't? #debian-sparc might know |
| 12:34.23 | manu__ | dont speaking english |
| 12:34.28 | liable | manu__: /j #ubuntu-es |
| 12:34.28 | manu__ | hablo español |
| 12:34.29 | tarzeau | jm_: doesn't exist imho |
| 12:34.33 | tarzeau | but #sparc is fine |
| 12:34.36 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 12:34.38 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 12:34.38 | manu__ | chat spanish |
| 12:34.44 | tarzeau | !es |
| 12:34.44 | manu__ | ubuntu |
| 12:34.44 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:34.49 | liable | manu__: /j #ubuntu-es |
| 12:34.50 | manu__ | ok |
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| 12:38.23 | streuner | tarzeau: we told him earlier, that are ML's exist... |
| 12:38.24 | dvm1981 | What is that 'debhelper sets channel limit to 736'? |
| 12:38.41 | streuner | dvm1981: well, flood-protection |
| 12:38.48 | unix_infidel | streuner: flood protection? |
| 12:38.50 | jm_ | it's a channel mode, read some IRC docs |
| 12:38.54 | dvm1981 | streuner: The numbers of ch? |
| 12:38.59 | streuner | no |
| 12:39.07 | dvm1981 | characters?? |
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| 12:39.11 | jm_ | it means only 736 people can be on the channel |
| 12:39.20 | dvm1981 | hhhmm |
| 12:39.35 | Fraze | Help! Is there a way to restore deleted files with sarge and ext3? |
| 12:39.35 | streuner | dvm1981: debhelper sets the number of people who are able to join some numbers higher... |
| 12:39.35 | tarzeau | Fraze: no |
| 12:39.35 | dvm1981 | Thanks guys ;-) sometimes i have strange questions :-) |
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| 12:39.50 | tarzeau | Fraze: but should be fine with fat... |
| 12:39.55 | tarzeau | Fraze: check foremost |
| 12:39.58 | streuner | dvm1981: there are no strange questions, only strange answers ;-) |
| 12:40.07 | dvm1981 | streuner: ;-) |
| 12:40.12 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981:no :( ...I had different value in Location but it wasn't this :( |
| 12:40.28 | Fraze | tarzeau: foremost is for fat?.. but i'm using ext3.. |
| 12:40.39 | tarzeau | Fraze: no foremost is general |
| 12:40.39 | fireba11 | streuner: there are stupid questions though |
| 12:40.50 | tarzeau | Fraze: depends what file it is, it's size and if/how it was fragmented |
| 12:40.56 | tarzeau | Fraze: oh really, got no backup? |
| 12:41.03 | tarzeau | Fraze: undeleting stuff on ext2/3 is pain |
| 12:41.11 | tarzeau | not sure how it's for ufs |
| 12:41.23 | Fraze | tarzeau: No no no.. nothing happend yet.. don't worry.. I'm just want to know how to prevent this thing |
| 12:41.37 | tarzeau | Fraze: make backups |
| 12:41.37 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: I look here in my old notes, how i have setup my USB HP printer. But i have not make an note of it. Stupid me :-/ |
| 12:41.50 | tarzeau | Fraze: and rm -f /bin/rm |
| 12:41.59 | Fraze | tarzeau: Is there an automatic program that do it? .. |
| 12:42.04 | tarzeau | Fraze: no |
| 12:42.05 | Fraze | tarzeau: rm -f /bin/rm ?!! |
| 12:42.12 | Fraze | tarzeau: it will delete the rm command? |
| 12:42.15 | tarzeau | Fraze: that'll make sure you don't use rm accidently |
| 12:42.15 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: If i remeber good i have only install 'hpijs' |
| 12:42.18 | tarzeau | Fraze: yes it will |
| 12:42.29 | tarzeau | Fraze: pretty nice if you've got some free diskspace |
| 12:42.30 | Fraze | tarzeau: but i need to delete sometimes :) |
| 12:42.35 | streuner | Fraze: use an alias in .bashrc |
| 12:42.41 | tarzeau | streuner: that's the worst thing to do |
| 12:42.51 | tarzeau | Fraze: then be careful |
| 12:42.52 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: That is already done by you? Right? |
| 12:43.01 | Fraze | tarzeau: nothing like "trash can"? |
| 12:43.06 | streuner | Fraze: for example 'alias=rm=rm -i (interactiv) |
| 12:43.07 | tarzeau | Fraze: albeit probably nobody will die |
| 12:43.10 | tarzeau | Fraze: hahahaha |
| 12:43.14 | tarzeau | Fraze: you're kidding, right? |
| 12:43.15 | Zrin | is there a utility to control FSB clock generator? |
| 12:43.19 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981:yes |
| 12:43.27 | Fraze | tarzeau: why? |
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| 12:43.31 | tarzeau | Fraze: read the unix haters book |
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| 12:43.38 | tarzeau | !uhb |
| 12:43.38 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: And the printer is not detected? |
| 12:43.44 | azeem | wtf |
| 12:43.45 | Fraze | tarzeau: First time i heard about this book.. |
| 12:43.45 | azeem | 13:34 < tarzeau> Fraze: and rm -f /bin/rm |
| 12:43.52 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981:I always get 'client-error-not-possible' |
| 12:44.11 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: With 'lsusb' you see it? |
| 12:44.16 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981:yes it is detected |
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| 12:44.33 | rrdf | which boot option is netinstall kernel 2.6??? linux26 wont work on the silo sparc boot loader |
| 12:44.33 | tarzeau | dpkg uhb is the unix haters book, http://www.simson.net/ref/ugh.pdf |
| 12:44.34 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 12:44.43 | weissi_ | plbgnr_: just to be sure: do how have sufficent rights? did you try it as root? |
| 12:45.58 | plbgnr_ | weissi_:yes |
| 12:45.59 | unix_infidel | ahhh, the stupid sun is rising.... |
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| 12:46.04 | unix_infidel | 645am came too soon. |
| 12:46.07 | azeem | rrdf: try kernel26 |
| 12:46.16 | blondie | unix_infidel: will you burst into flames? |
| 12:46.18 | Fraze | tarzeau: ok.. :) |
| 12:46.45 | streuner | How can you avoid screen 'screen' message appears? |
| 12:46.52 | tarzeau | Fraze: there's a few things that went wrong with unix |
| 12:46.56 | streuner | when starting screen? |
| 12:47.08 | tarzeau | streuner: startup_message off |
| 12:47.20 | jm_ | streuner: startup_message off? |
| 12:47.20 | streuner | tarzeau: ah, thanks. |
| 12:47.22 | rrdf | I downloaded from ftp://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian3.1r1/main/installer-sparc/ in subfolder 2.6 the netinstall |
| 12:47.29 | Fraze | ha.. |
| 12:47.39 | rrdf | and still when I boot of it.. it`s 2.4 no boot options |
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| 12:47.54 | plbgnr_ | weissi_,dvm1981: I tried to set debug level for cupsys daemon to find out reason, but there are just meaningless information for me :( |
| 12:48.00 | enr1x | hi debians! |
| 12:48.12 | rrdf | jm_ : /msg doesn`t work |
| 12:48.15 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: Post it? |
| 12:48.16 | plbgnr_ | ....informations... |
| 12:48.25 | plbgnr_ | ok moment... |
| 12:48.25 | jm_ | rrdf: that's not netinstall, it's mini image - msg does work |
| 12:48.28 | tralala | rrdf: irrc your are presented with a list of options when you hit F1 at the boot prompt |
| 12:48.40 | jm_ | !tell rrdf -about e2fsprogs loop |
| 12:49.05 | unix_infidel | blondie: i dunno i suppose ill find out soon enough. |
| 12:49.21 | blondie | fun! |
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| 12:49.50 | tarzeau | haha gnomebaker shows me it's loading the gui in a splashscreen... and then |
| 12:50.07 | tarzeau | the shitnes quits unexpectedly. and tells me i can inform the developers... funny |
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| 12:50.46 | rrdf | so where can I find the netinstall stable 3.1r1?? I cannot find anything on the debian server.. so many versions |
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| 12:51.12 | grandpa | ~nfs |
| 12:51.17 | apt | Try using -o nolock,soft (soft will help stop the error cascades, especially over wireless) |
| 12:51.21 | grandpa | !nfs |
| 12:51.22 | dpkg | somebody said nfs was Sun's Network Filesystem, a reasonably simple file transfer protocol that is quite hard to secure. See the NFS-HOWTO for setup, or No Files Served. Network FaILurE System. Never Fscking Stable. No Fucking Security. Nightmare File System, or ask me about 'ssh tunneled nfs', or http://linuxslut.net/guides/nfs.php |
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| 12:51.28 | rrdf | so what do about the efs2progrs?? cannot enter /msg not found |
| 12:51.29 | tarzeau | when i click inform developers bug buddy is started, and gnomebaker is not listed... |
| 12:51.31 | grandpa | cheers dpkg |
| 12:51.45 | jm_ | rrdf: http://debian.inode.at/debian-cd/current/sparc/iso-cd/ |
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| 12:52.24 | plbgnr_ | weissi_,dvm1981:btw I find out that I have 'something wrong with the HPLIP/HPIJS installation' from document file:///usr/share/doc/hplip/hplip_readme.html which is installed with hpijs ...there is chapter '7.3 Printing Troubleshooting' and 'Issue 5: How do I verify the HPLIP/HPIJS installation?' ...but no howto what should I do next :((( |
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| 12:54.48 | rrdf | so does debian sparc netinstall recognize the dvd rom after install? is the usb keyboard issue solved in 3.1r1 for SPARC? |
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| 12:55.21 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: Is that on 'Stable', i have not the same sections there in that manual :-/ |
| 12:55.27 | jm_ | I wouldn't know, I tried Debian on sparc when 2.2 was current ;) |
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| 12:55.57 | streuner | rrdf: why not subsribe to a ML and ask there? |
| 12:56.23 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981:no ...unstable |
| 12:56.23 | streuner | rrdf: or/and just search on groups.google.com ? |
| 12:56.33 | streuner | rrdf: most of us here use x86 |
| 12:56.52 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: It's looks that it's not the same manual, or here are not these chapters about that :-/ |
| 12:57.17 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: I power on an virtual machine |
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| 12:57.39 | rrdf | why not ML? I hoped to get help here.. and I think I do get it here... ML to complicated for me |
| 12:57.44 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981:http://pastebin.com/607274 |
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| 12:58.19 | jm_ | rrdf: there may be more people running Debian on sparcs on the ML |
| 12:58.25 | streuner | rrdf: 2 minutes to subsribe and just run a MTU isn't harder than IRC |
| 12:59.12 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: Have you look in the 'CUPS error_log'? |
| 12:59.20 | rrdf | streuner: I also use x86, got a network at home AMD Athlon XP, Intel P4, P3, Duron... but I got this sun machine as a present...so I am also a ultrasparc user since 3 days ago |
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| 12:59.47 | streuner | CUPS error logs usually say not much :-/ |
| 12:59.50 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981:ok moment i'll paste it there |
| 13:00.04 | Stevie | streuner: ENOTMUCH? |
| 13:00.07 | tarzeau | rrdf: and #sparc |
| 13:00.36 | dvm1981 | streuner: Hope there is a bit of info :-/ |
| 13:00.41 | streuner | no |
| 13:00.47 | dvm1981 | aaai |
| 13:00.52 | streuner | not to get your printer working... |
| 13:00.57 | rrdf | I subscribe and then?? who do I send an email??? whats the package name for debian-sparc?? is it a package ? |
| 13:01.20 | streuner | rrdf: should be a debian-user-sparc or such there |
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| 13:01.45 | rrdf | there is a SPARC IRC channel also? #SPARC? |
| 13:01.53 | streuner | rrdf: check out 'ML' archive and run the complete list |
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| 13:02.05 | streuner | yes, if you are lucky some debian user is there |
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| 13:03.02 | rrdf | really dont know how it works... sorry.. help me out.. I subscribed yesterday.. and how do I send a message, and who to? I already searched the whole internet for the Sparc issue.. |
| 13:03.28 | azeem | rrdf: where did you subscribe to? |
| 13:04.01 | rrdf | developer I think.. |
| 13:04.09 | streuner | oh |
| 13:04.12 | azeem | debian-sparc would be the proper list |
| 13:04.21 | rrdf | but now I found debian-sparc-request |
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| 13:04.45 | YogSothoth | Hi |
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| 13:06.06 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981:http://pastebin.com/607286 |
| 13:06.15 | zignig | does anyone know (i've looked with no success) to do the equivilent of base-config/late_command in the new etch installer ? |
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| 13:06.37 | Stevie | they might know in #ebian-boot |
| 13:06.38 | streuner | zignig: no |
| 13:06.52 | streuner | zignig: base-config isn't avaiable in etch and sid |
| 13:07.27 | zignig | streuner: yah , that's my problem. It's good that the package install is not in the installer. |
| 13:07.29 | YogSothoth | I just read the article "Is dump really deprecated?" (http://tinyurl.com/54cg9) and I'm asking: how can I snapshot an entire partition then dump it? I'm using Debian of course |
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| 13:08.21 | streuner | zignig: 'package install'? |
| 13:08.28 | rrdf | is debian-devel also okai for mailing list sparc?? |
| 13:08.37 | zignig | streuner: what base-config did after a reboot. |
| 13:09.06 | jm_ | rrdf: no, debian-user |
| 13:09.13 | tralala | YogSothoth: umount /dev/hda7; dd if=/dev/hda7 of=/somewhere/with/enough/free/space/hda7.dump |
| 13:09.17 | rrdf | the kernel mailing list email adress for sparc is wrong ;( |
| 13:09.30 | stew | zignig: everything should be done before the first reboot now |
| 13:09.32 | streuner | rrdf: debian-devel is the ML for debian-developer |
| 13:09.48 | rrdf | majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu this one... cannot subscribe for questions for sparc kernel |
| 13:10.10 | streuner | sounds rather like LKML |
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| 13:10.33 | valdyn | YogSothoth: a mounted partition? |
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| 13:11.39 | zignig | stew: it is , it's great, but the script I wrote did the rest of the install as a part of base config. ;/ |
| 13:11.41 | YogSothoth | valdyn: yes mounted and in use |
| 13:11.43 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: I not know, what i do is an search with the keyword, hope it help http://www.google.be/search?hl=nl&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=cups+%2B+%27stopped+with+status+22%21%27&meta= |
| 13:11.49 | rrdf | okai I subscribed to debian-sparc-request.. now what do I do.. send an email again with my question? |
| 13:11.52 | valdyn | YogSothoth: i think lvm supports taking snapshots |
| 13:11.55 | dvm1981 | s/i/to do |
| 13:12.04 | zignig | stew: I've got some direction for #debian-devel now..... , more coding. |
| 13:12.09 | valdyn | YogSothoth: for 'standard' partitions that's not possible |
| 13:12.11 | Hessophanes | rrdf: Subscription is done via debian-sparc-request... now post your question to debian-sparc@l.d.o |
| 13:12.14 | YogSothoth | tralala: is there a way to do this without unmounting the partition? |
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| 13:12.26 | kimo | I will port 200 machines, from Win98 to Linux. Problem is, they're PII/64MB !! I can install local, or use network computing. Any recommendations for old dogs like that ? |
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| 13:12.36 | Nickname | hi. Is the CD1 of Sarge enough to get a basic gnome install ? |
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| 13:12.45 | rrdf | I never used a mailing list before.. now I send my request per email to the same email adress?? |
| 13:13.23 | valdyn | Nickname: yes |
| 13:13.38 | Hessophanes | rrdf: Without the -request part, yes. |
| 13:13.42 | fireba11 | kimo: any chance to use them as thin clients ? hardware seems to fit for that :-) |
| 13:13.57 | Nickname | valdyn : and can I then upgrade to etch using apt-get ? |
| 13:14.04 | kimo | fireba11: Yes I can do that. They r used over WAN |
| 13:14.04 | citral | kimo: what are the old dogs supposed to be used for? |
| 13:14.10 | tralala | YogSothoth: yes, with tar (as root) but if there are any programmes chaning file during the archiving you won't have the latest data. |
| 13:14.11 | valdyn | Nickname: yes |
| 13:14.21 | Hessophanes | rrdf: Just like an IRC channel - only the reply time is a bit longer. ;) |
| 13:14.21 | Nickname | Valdyn: ok.. thanks :) |
| 13:14.41 | kimo | on them all work is done via a browser, but occasionally, they will use office (OMG OOo sloow) |
| 13:14.44 | Hessophanes | rrdf: And the vehicle is email. |
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| 13:15.07 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981: ok i'll look at that; btw I have found now this package 'printconf - automatically configures USB and parallel printers with CUPS' and I am installing it now but I have probably problem with hpijs |
| 13:15.41 | fireba11 | kimo where the hell are 200 p2/64 boxes with win98 still used ? :-) |
| 13:15.57 | Stevie | inova hospital in fairfax |
| 13:16.00 | kimo | in the dark lands of africe where I live |
| 13:16.03 | Stevie | oh wait, no, those have win95 |
| 13:16.05 | citral | kimo: that will suck in any case, I bet for about 5 minutes to launch OOo |
| 13:16.08 | Stevie | and run netscape 4 |
| 13:16.15 | fireba11 | kimo: ah, okay, thats reasonable :-) |
| 13:16.26 | kimo | so for thin clients .. any recommendations |
| 13:16.33 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: Yes, possible wiht 'printconf', i not remeber how i have setup it. I have also not make an note of 'how to'. So i really think that i have do it with easy, otherwise i take an note when i found not the info :-/ |
| 13:16.44 | fireba11 | kimo hart to say without knowing what you want to do |
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| 13:17.13 | gartt | I love thin clients :) I never touch my boxes here except through my laptop |
| 13:17.24 | tralala | kimo: you can get around that by using the OOo on a remote desktop server |
| 13:17.36 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: And if i remeber good, (because an light goes on when you say it), it's with printconf |
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| 13:18.10 | kimo | for thin clients, must I use LTSP, or is there good projects to work on main stream servers (debian/redhat...) |
| 13:18.29 | rrdf | I`m now trying netinstall 3.1r1 on Sun machine...2.4 or 2.6 better? |
| 13:18.46 | streuner | try 2.6 |
| 13:18.47 | fireba11 | rrdf: i'd go with 2.6 |
| 13:18.48 | Zrin | I got I/O error while burning DVD+R DL (7.7 GB iso) with growisofs on 98%, the DVD is not recognized by the drive afterwards. What could cause that? |
| 13:18.55 | tralala | kimo: in debian there is lessdisks. I use it for a diskless router and I'm quite happy with it. |
| 13:19.02 | rrdf | only have 64 MB ram , and would like to run xfce4 instead if gnome |
| 13:19.09 | valdyn | Zrin: a broken dvd |
| 13:19.13 | rrdf | enough for 2.6? |
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| 13:19.16 | citral | rrdf: only 2.6 did it on my ultra 10 |
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| 13:19.30 | Zrin | valdyn: dvd drive or medium? |
| 13:19.36 | kimo | does anyone know why is LTSP better than plain XDMCP ?\ |
| 13:19.42 | valdyn | Zrin: one of both or both |
| 13:19.42 | tralala | Zrin: a bad disc, a bad drive, an IO bottleneck |
| 13:19.49 | citral | rrdf: forget gnome, xfce maybe, prefer fluxbox or so |
| 13:19.57 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: Let it know he ;-) |
| 13:20.00 | rrdf | whats the spec of your ultra 10? cpu etc |
| 13:20.11 | citral | they are all on google |
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| 13:20.42 | rrdf | yes I meant I want to install xfce not gnome, alhtough I got ubuntu working with gnome before with 64mb ram, but with error messages of the applet |
| 13:20.52 | tralala | kimo: irrc LTSP runs the apps on the server and XDMCP - on the client |
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| 13:21.07 | citral | rrdf: I use it as a server, I cannot say |
| 13:21.24 | citral | no desktop |
| 13:21.27 | kimo | AFAIK, XDMCP logs u in the server & everything runs over there |
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| 13:21.47 | tralala | kimo: this means you need a powerful server and a lot of network bandwidth with LTSP or powerful think clients with XDMCP |
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| 13:22.12 | citral | rrdf: you should really think about buying 128Mb of ram in ebay |
| 13:22.34 | citral | minimum, 256 for gnome and there you go |
| 13:22.38 | kimo | tralala: with XDMCP everything runs on server, not on client !!! Am I mistaken ? |
| 13:22.40 | tralala | could be, I have read about them a while ago so I don't remember very well. |
| 13:22.43 | bbb | I would like to boot my debian box with the kernel on debian installer CD (kind of rescue but without debian rescue system). Is it possible ? |
| 13:22.46 | rrdf | man.. ECC Ram are verryyy expensive even on ebay.. and dont know which work good.. |
| 13:23.05 | rrdf | I read minimum 96MB for gnome |
| 13:23.14 | alan | ~dpkg xfee86 |
| 13:23.21 | alan | bleh |
| 13:23.30 | alan | dpkg: xfree86 |
| 13:23.30 | dpkg | xfree86 is probably proof that world has gone mad, or a free open-source implementation of X11. http://www.xfree86.org/ or ask me about "install xf4" or "x.org", or something that moves so slowly, it doesn't feel like it's moved in years |
| 13:23.37 | azeem | rrdf: you want to run GNOME on your sparc? |
| 13:23.41 | tralala | anyway when you speak about think clients you have two options - run everything on the server or run everything on the client with the (dis)advantages I've described. |
| 13:24.08 | alan | dpkg: install x.org |
| 13:24.14 | kimo | tralala: if I decide to run all on server, what r my options beside LTSP ? |
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| 13:24.18 | rrdf | no xfce.. I just mentioned that I got gnome woorking on my sun blade.. not that it runs smoothly |
| 13:24.27 | azeem | ah |
| 13:24.43 | rrdf | I want to install xfce and vlc media player for watching dvd`s and mpeg... |
| 13:24.47 | plbgnr_ | dvm1981: :( 'Printer on usb:/dev/usb/lp0 was not automatically configurable by Debian.' I have newer printer...ok I'll find more... thanks for your attention |
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| 13:25.04 | tralala | kimo: I don't know. I prefer running on the client and this is what I've used so far (with lessdisks). |
| 13:25.06 | streuner | rrdf: you don't have fun with 64 MB |
| 13:25.22 | citral | rrdf: 10 Euros for 128Mb... remember they have to work by pair http://cgi.ebay.de/TOP-128MB-registred-ECC-EDO-Ram-Serverspeicher_W0QQitemZ6857476479QQcategoryZ1481QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 13:25.23 | alan | dpkg: x.org |
| 13:25.25 | dpkg | i guess xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.0. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg |
| 13:25.27 | kimo | tralala: thnx, will look into it too |
| 13:25.38 | dvm1981 | plbgnr: ;-) you're welcome :-) |
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| 13:27.12 | alan | dpkg: get xorg |
| 13:27.12 | dpkg | X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
| 13:27.12 | strider | alan: apt-get install x-window-system-core. use /msg dpkg |
| 13:27.12 | mrspock | hello zrin |
| 13:27.12 | Zrin | hi |
| 13:27.12 | citral | rrdf: don't know if this one is compatible with your system, though |
| 13:27.13 | rrdf | I downloaded netinstsall now.. cannot use "linux26" on silo |
| 13:27.13 | rrdf | expert26 neither!! |
| 13:27.13 | citral | try install26 |
| 13:27.23 | citral | or press F1 for options |
| 13:27.30 | rrdf | install26 neiter ;( |
| 13:27.35 | dvm1981 | Then F2, F3 ... |
| 13:28.21 | rrdf | THERE IS NO F1 F2 F3 funktion on silo for sparc |
| 13:28.32 | rrdf | help gives me the path to the images |
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| 13:28.53 | rrdf | and there is nothing about 2.6 there neither |
| 13:29.21 | dvm1981 | rrdf: When you boot the CD, then when you see the Debian logo? I not have an sparc, and know about it. |
| 13:29.56 | rrdf | there is no Debian logo on Sparc Sun Blade 100 before the boot: option |
| 13:30.04 | mrspock | I run sarge on i386. I have a LG DL DVD burner, 4,7 GB dvds no problem, but growisofs from an image to a DL-DVD brings input/output error after 98,3% |
| 13:30.08 | citral | rrdf: man help yourself a little bit. did you ever think to look if YOUR model is supported ? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ |
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| 13:30.39 | alan | dpkg: xfree86 reconfigure |
| 13:31.07 | tralala | mrspock: every time? |
| 13:31.11 | alan | dpkg: reconfigure xfree86 |
| 13:31.12 | mrspock | 2nd time not |
| 13:31.13 | mrspock | now |
| 13:31.17 | azeem | alan: what are you trying to do? |
| 13:31.18 | dvm1981 | alan: Try to use '/msg dpkg <msg>' |
| 13:31.23 | finn | after "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it cancels at "Please select your default color depth in bits" with: "System startup links for /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg already exist". I previously installed the nvidia drivers (followed the dpkg's - the bot - instructions). any ideas? |
| 13:31.29 | citral | rrdf: and you are probably not even in silo, but in the firmware, then type "boot cdrom" |
| 13:31.40 | tralala | mrspock: have you checked the bts? |
| 13:31.41 | alan | dvm1981: thanks. 8) |
| 13:32.02 | rrdf | I`m searching for every news on the net for 2 weeks now!! I cannot find everything concerning my sun blade 100!! And what do you mean with the sparc installer docu? Only thing it says it that there can be problems.. but not how to solve them |
| 13:32.16 | mrspock | what does bts mean? |
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| 13:32.42 | yhan | hi |
| 13:32.42 | tralala | dpkg:bts |
| 13:32.43 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 13:32.49 | yhan | quick question |
| 13:33.11 | yhan | my sendmail restores it's original config every boot |
| 13:33.16 | Zrin | mrspock: you may want to check for firmware update |
| 13:33.20 | yhan | which is a bit anoying |
| 13:33.25 | yhan | how could I fix that ? |
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| 13:33.40 | alan | azeem: trying to get the magic incantation to reconfigure xfree86. looks like it picked up the the VESA server. All I have is 800x600 |
| 13:33.41 | Fox | yhan: remove it ? |
| 13:33.53 | yhan | I've a sarge installation, I've checked in /etc/init.d what script could be responsible for that |
| 13:34.00 | finn | it sucks :( |
| 13:34.01 | mrspock | tralala:this is sarge, and no, I haven't yet, but I will go there |
| 13:34.02 | citral | rrdf: if you had read the doc, you would have see that when you boot a sparc, you land in the openboot firmware (kind of bios). then that you have to type "boot cdrom", then read troubleshooting section if that fails. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch05s01.html.en#id2521359 |
| 13:34.08 | azeem | !drx |
| 13:34.08 | dpkg | hmm... drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 13:34.09 | yhan | fox remove and resintall you mean ? |
| 13:34.30 | rrdf | I KNOW BOOT CDROM!! IM IN THE BOOT: PROMPT FROM DEBIAN INSTALL |
| 13:34.44 | azeem | rrdf: cool down |
| 13:34.46 | Fox | yhan: and install something else ;) but removing with --purge and reinstalling might help. did you try dpkg-reconfigure sendmail ? |
| 13:34.51 | rrdf | sorry |
| 13:34.54 | finn | azeem, I didn't change any config files myself |
| 13:34.59 | enr1x | hi people, i have a problem with apt. Everytime i want to install something, there are weird packages that refuse to reconfigure, uninstall or install. I have uploaded the problem. It's in http://pastebin.com/607321. Could you help? Thanx |
| 13:34.59 | yhan | yes I did |
| 13:35.55 | azeem | finn: no idea about nvidia drivers. Didn't know /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg existed at all |
| 13:36.07 | rrdf | the only problem is I cannot find anything about the silo boot options anywhere.. cant be that complicated starting with 2.6 kernel..on normal debian x86 I know it is linux26, expert26 or whatever.. but silo? |
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| 13:36.15 | finn | me neither untill it stopped working... |
| 13:36.36 | citral | rrdf: I have now a doubt, maybe there is only 2.6 available |
| 13:36.42 | yhan | Fox, dpkg-reconfigure sendmail is supposed to ask me a couple of questions, right ? |
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| 13:37.02 | citral | rrdf: so just press enter and try |
| 13:37.03 | dglerum | _ |
| 13:37.07 | rrdf | you mean only 2.4 available..thats the one always starting |
| 13:37.10 | jmd_ | Has anyone yet managed to get mbox-check-applet to work? |
| 13:37.16 | rrdf | when I press enter |
| 13:37.40 | rrdf | 2.4.27 I think... and I want 2.6 |
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| 13:37.46 | valdyn | enr1x: those arent debian packages |
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| 13:37.53 | dvm1981 | yhan: Yes, to reconfig it ... |
| 13:38.07 | dogmeat | is there a way to tell what the data i/o rate of the harddrives is? |
| 13:38.09 | citral | rrdf: are you sure your cdrom image is a sarge image (answer in lowcaps please :) |
| 13:38.20 | yhan | I've just done it, it asked anything |
| 13:38.21 | rrdf | ;) just a moment |
| 13:38.30 | yhan | going to check further |
| 13:38.54 | enr1x | yeah, i dont remember where i downloaded them, but they are debs ... |
| 13:39.11 | dvm1981 | yhan: Reinstall it?? |
| 13:39.19 | yhan | I'll do that |
| 13:39.23 | yhan | thks |
| 13:39.31 | yhan | I've an another question |
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| 13:39.42 | yhan | if I want to get a rid of ipv6 |
| 13:39.59 | alan | thanks guys. back in full 1600x1200 glory now. |
| 13:40.03 | enr1x | valdin, if they were (they are) how could i rsolve that? |
| 13:40.07 | yhan | I need to edit the alias file and to comment out all the modules I don't want right ? |
| 13:40.12 | rrdf | I used http://debian.inode.at/debian-cd/current/sparc/iso-cd/debian-31r1a-sparc-netinst.iso |
| 13:40.17 | valdyn | enr1x: remove those packages and dont use them |
| 13:40.42 | yhan | do I need to do something else ? |
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| 13:41.17 | rrdf | the jmd told me to use.. |
| 13:41.33 | valdyn | enr1x: or ask the supplier to fix them, we cant support every file just because it is a 'deb'.. |
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| 13:41.44 | enr1x | valdin, but how? |
| 13:41.52 | enr1x | i might look like a n00b :P |
| 13:41.56 | valdyn | !tab completion |
| 13:41.57 | dpkg | i heard tab completion is why karsten is sending you completely irrelevent messages. |
| 13:41.58 | jm_ | dogmeat: gkrellm can show you with data from /proc/partitions (I think), there's also iostat |
| 13:42.01 | rrdf | only distri working with 2.6 for now is ubuntu 6.04..but thats testing.. no software packages available online |
| 13:42.02 | valdyn | enr1x: apt-get remove |
| 13:42.04 | jmd_ | rrdf: Someone taking my name in vain? |
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| 13:42.31 | enr1x | let's see... |
| 13:42.47 | jm_ | dogmeat: I lied, /proc/diskstats |
| 13:42.48 | rrdf | nono ;) just talking about which version of sparc debian you told me to download.. netinstall.. is it sarge? |
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| 13:42.55 | rrdf | jmd |
| 13:43.02 | BillGates | could anyone help. I am looking for statistics of linux servers and what share does debian have among others |
| 13:43.12 | valdyn | !statistics |
| 13:43.13 | dpkg | from memory, statistics is a way of measuring something with numbers. |
| 13:43.14 | jm_ | rrdf: yes. you can find that link on the Debian web page |
| 13:43.17 | enr1x | valdix, '' subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10 |
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| 13:43.29 | rrdf | oh.. think I meant jm_ sorry jmd_ |
| 13:43.34 | enr1x | and then... dpkg exited with status 1 |
| 13:43.37 | yhan | anyway thks guys, see you later |
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| 13:43.46 | valdyn | enr1x: get someone who can read shell scripts to fix it |
| 13:44.08 | rrdf | jm_: thank you for the link, but how do I start 2.6 install on your iso of Debian sparc? |
| 13:44.08 | valdyn | enr1x: the scripts are in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 13:44.19 | rrdf | in silo |
| 13:44.23 | citral | rrdf: hmm, the online manual doesn't mention 2.6, I look on my machine |
| 13:44.33 | rrdf | thanks citral |
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| 13:45.02 | rrdf | so why does ubuntu bring out an version with 2.6 working.. doesn`t it come from debian original? |
| 13:45.13 | valdyn | enr1x: btw, its never a good idea to install packages from random sources... |
| 13:45.52 | rrdf | a sparc ubuntu I mean, I tried it |
| 13:45.53 | jmd_ | How do I run xset automatically whenever I start an X session ? |
| 13:45.58 | enr1x | valdyn, i am taking a look at the scripts |
| 13:46.01 | jm_ | rrdf: there is no 2.6 version listed separately there |
| 13:46.28 | rrdf | so there is none? |
| 13:46.34 | citral | rrdf: bad news, if "linux26" fails you have a stupid image |
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| 13:46.54 | jm_ | rrdf: maybe there is in Etch |
| 13:46.56 | enr1x | if you want to take a look... http://pastebin.com/607336 |
| 13:47.07 | rrdf | citral: but etch is experimental??? |
| 13:47.13 | rrdf | jm i meant |
| 13:47.28 | citral | etch is testing |
| 13:47.42 | citral | has bugs |
| 13:47.45 | rrdf | citral: dont think the image is wrong.. tried 2 different netinstall 3.1r1 |
| 13:47.56 | dvm1981 | btw is there an code name for experimental? |
| 13:47.56 | enr1x | shit i have to leave. See you on monday... |
| 13:47.59 | valdyn | enr1x: no idea, i'd put exit on top of this script, but that's just me |
| 13:49.46 | rrdf | I just read on netinstall: A bug has been discovered in the 3.1_r1 netinstall CD images: installable kernel images were missing. New installs from these images will most likely fail. |
| 13:49.46 | rrdf | The netinstall and business card CD images have been rebuilt to fix this bug; the new versions are called 3.1_r1a. We apologise for the inconvenience. |
| 13:49.48 | rrdf | A bug has been discovered in the 3.1_r1 netinstall CD images: installable kernel images were missing. New installs from these images will most likely fail. |
| 13:49.49 | rrdf | The netinstall and business card CD images have been rebuilt to fix this bug; the new versions are called 3.1_r1a. We apologise for the inconvenience. |
| 13:50.55 | jm_ | rrdf: Sarge CD install page has 3.1r1a images |
| 13:51.00 | Nickname | I've found loads of problems on the beta2 etch netinstall.... |
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| 13:51.10 | rrdf | a yeah *g* sorry |
| 13:51.17 | rrdf | i read r3.1r1 |
| 13:51.17 | key323|afk | hallo wieviel speicherplatz wird debian 3.1 brauchen? |
| 13:51.24 | azeem | key323|afk: #debian.de |
| 13:51.26 | Nickname | 1. if british layout is set, ispell doesn't configure correctly |
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| 13:51.42 | Nickname | 2. grub gives a error 25 disk read error. |
| 13:51.50 | rrdf | I`m kinda confused with all the versions I downloaded tried different debian ftp`s etc |
| 13:51.54 | key323|afk | (14:51:34) —› can't join #debian.de (you're banned (+b))! Press Control+F2 to retry! |
| 13:52.01 | key323|afk | why? |
| 13:52.20 | Nickname | next time, i'll stick to Sarge CD1 and upgrade to etch via apt. |
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| 13:52.35 | tralala | key323: someone's been doing nasty things with your IP probably |
| 13:52.54 | dvm1981 | There is no codename for experimental?? |
| 13:52.56 | key323 | but i wasnt ever there |
| 13:52.59 | citral | rrdf: what I said, your iso is borked ;) |
| 13:53.12 | jm_ | dvm1981: /msg dpkg experimental |
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| 13:53.47 | tralala | key323: do you have a dynamic IP? anyhow, debian doesn't need a lot of disk space, but the size depends on what you're going to use it for. |
| 13:53.55 | dvm1981 | jm_: Right, i asked to Google and and i was going to wave of all his results ;-) |
| 13:54.31 | st0ner | what do i have to do to use the fbdev driver for x.org? |
| 13:54.36 | key323 | no |
| 13:54.42 | st0ner | i get the error /dev/fb0 not found |
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| 13:54.49 | citral | key323: does someone else have access to your computer, or do you share your connection ? |
| 13:54.55 | rrdf | jm_: http://debian.inode.at/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-sparc/ I cannot find the etch release netinstall or anything, can you help? |
| 13:55.12 | jm_ | rrdf: blah, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 13:55.26 | rrdf | citral: do you know which kernel you have on your machine already? |
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| 13:55.52 | citral | christophe@n23:~$ uname -a |
| 13:55.52 | citral | Linux n23 2.6.15-1-sparc64 #2 Wed Feb 22 15:36:26 PST 2006 sparc64 GNU/Linux |
| 13:55.57 | tralala | key323: anyhow what are you going to do with debian when you have it installed? |
| 13:56.00 | citral | I have etch |
| 13:56.01 | dvm1981 | jm_: Wikepedia reveal me that there are no codename :-) |
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| 13:56.12 | key323 | my brother have the same connection but i dont think that he was ever here |
| 13:56.13 | jm_ | dvm1981: exactly |
| 13:56.26 | dvm1981 | jm_: ;-) great people here :-) |
| 13:56.57 | citral | key323: they could also have banned too large, like *@dip0.t-ipconnect.de, and you're a poor victim now |
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| 13:57.12 | key323 | sory for my bad english |
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| 13:57.34 | quiet | can someone please help with this? I installed Sarge to a Compaq Proliant 1600 Server (dual Pentium III 500mhz) with a Compaq Smart Array 3200(Ultra2 SCSI). Everything went fine. Then I wanted to upgrade to Etch, the linux-image-2.6-686-smp keeps failing on boot. It says the device /dev/ida/c0d0p1 doesn't exist. This is the same device that the 2.6.8 from Sarge uses, which still boots fine. Someone please help? |
| 13:57.35 | nkuttler | citral: iirc they did exactly that a few days ago |
| 13:57.56 | citral | key323: I can speak german, I tell them |
| 13:58.32 | tralala | quiet: are you using initrd image? |
| 13:58.45 | key323 | ok danke aber jetzt bin ich auch schon im deutschen raum |
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| 13:58.57 | dvm1981 | !de |
| 13:58.58 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 13:58.58 | quiet | tralala, I'm using whatever it does when I 'aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686-smp' |
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| 13:59.11 | rrdf | citral: I can also deutsch sprechen |
| 13:59.12 | quiet | tralala, i believe it uses an initrd |
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| 14:01.13 | snapy | hello, quick question, does anybody know what "bpo" means in the context of a Bug reporting? |
| 14:01.24 | nkuttler | Myon: are you here |
| 14:02.00 | hipodilski | Hi I have a CD-R with data on it as I can remember I did burned it as multisession how can I check is the CD multisession? and how much free space is left on it? |
| 14:02.01 | Myon | nkuttler: hi Nicolas |
| 14:02.15 | jm_ | hipob;list the tracks on it |
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| 14:02.20 | tralala | quiet: yeah, it does. When do you get this error - during the initrd image execution or after? It looks like you don't have the modules for the raid array loaded. |
| 14:02.29 | nkuttler | Myon: hi. can you unban key323 from debian.de? *@dip0.t-ipconnect.de |
| 14:02.45 | gnubien | debian and redhat seem to have the most security advisorys; is that because the code in there apps have been modified to suit the distro's requirements? if not then what is the reason? |
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| 14:02.53 | Myon | nkuttler: he's already in there |
| 14:02.58 | hipodilski | jm_: how? |
| 14:03.00 | nkuttler | ah, i see :) |
| 14:03.11 | jm_ | hipodilski: cdrecord -toc should show them |
| 14:03.12 | quiet | tralala, i have cpqarray in /etc/modules that correct? |
| 14:03.22 | Myon | 15:02 -!- 11 - #debian.de: ban *!*n=wanker@*.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [by maxx, 100045 secs ago] |
| 14:03.36 | Myon | doesn't sound like an entirely unreasonable ban :) |
| 14:03.44 | quiet | tralala, rebooting to give you more information preceeding the Drop to shell.. |
| 14:04.26 | hipodilski | jm_: done that how I can see is it multisession or not? |
| 14:04.31 | hipodilski | is that the space next to each track? |
| 14:04.31 | citral | easy to evade, anyway |
| 14:04.43 | quitte_ | hi. i'm looking for fb.modes that work for a vga-scart connector. |
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| 14:05.22 | citral | quitte_: to look on tv? try 800x600@60Hz |
| 14:05.33 | jm_ | hipodilski: single session discs only list one track ... |
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| 14:06.10 | snapy | jm_, hipodilski : that is false for audio CD's (for example) |
| 14:06.14 | pinucset | one think, i have an script in /home/me/.kde/Autostart in bash that says amarok -p, it supposes to be executed every time I open kde but it opens kate and shows my script but doesn't execute it... some help? |
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| 14:06.37 | jm_ | snapy: which part? |
| 14:06.38 | quitte_ | citral: it has to be interlaced and with csync enabled |
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| 14:07.06 | snapy | jm_: the part that "single session CD's" only have one track |
| 14:07.23 | jm_ | snapy: audio CD-s are nmot single session, they have multipe tracks |
| 14:07.30 | hipodilski | jm_: so I see more than one track but when I try to copy data I get err: "data does not fit on disk"? |
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| 14:08.41 | hipodilski | [hipo@davidian ~]$ du -hs /media/cdrecorder/ |
| 14:08.41 | hipodilski | 495M /media/cdrecorder/ |
| 14:08.58 | snapy | hipodilski, Does the CD contain data, music, both? |
| 14:09.01 | tralala | hipodilski: even the multisession cds could be closed for writing |
| 14:09.01 | hipodilski | snapy: nope only data |
| 14:09.22 | hipodilski | tralala: How can I check is the multisession closed? |
| 14:09.25 | snapy | hipodilski, then, as jm_ said, every track is a session |
| 14:10.04 | snapy | hipodilski, : Use cdrecord -ms, if it fails the CD is closed, if not it will tell you the offset of the last track (needed to continue burning) |
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| 14:10.08 | usn | hi folks |
| 14:10.22 | knvinh | How can I disable the icon jumping when I run an app in KDE? |
| 14:10.40 | dvm1981 | knvinh: 'kcontrol'?? |
| 14:10.52 | dvm1981 | knvinh: KDE control panel |
| 14:10.56 | mrspock | :tralala I have checked out for a firmwire update regarding my LG DVD burner - none available |
| 14:11.04 | snapy | hipodilski, jm_: If you understand spanish, I invite you to read my article here: http://linuca.org/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=344 |
| 14:11.28 | jm_ | snapy: I only know one word - cervezza :) |
| 14:11.30 | knvinh | dvm1981: which part? Sorry, I look arround KDE control Panel but perhaps I miss it |
| 14:11.50 | knvinh | dvm1981: Can you tell me where? |
| 14:12.01 | snapy | jm_: I guess I'll have to translate it to English one day :) |
| 14:12.01 | hipodilski | snapy: I don't ;[ |
| 14:12.02 | hipodilski | [hipo@davidian ~]$ cdrecord -msinfo |
| 14:12.02 | hipodilski | 311150,344703 |
| 14:12.04 | dvm1981 | knvinh: Currently looking for ;-) |
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| 14:12.16 | tralala | hipodilski: I use growisofs - it makes multisession easy. If you want to try it - growisofs -M /dev/cdrom. If that fails the cd is closed. |
| 14:12.17 | knvinh | dvm1981: :) |
| 14:12.18 | snapy | hipodilski, : You're right sorry for the typo |
| 14:12.48 | hipodilski | [hipo@davidian ~]$ growisofs -M /dev/cdrom |
| 14:12.48 | hipodilski | :-( /dev/cdrom: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 9 |
| 14:12.50 | tralala | mrspock: does bts say anything? |
| 14:12.50 | kronoz | hi, everytime i try to install something with apt it tries to upgrade debhelper and the box goes into a hard lockup |
| 14:13.04 | snapy | hipodilski, The numbers you see are the parameters that you need to give to mkisofs if you want to import the previous files |
| 14:13.25 | quiet | tralala, i am at the halted boot of the 2.6.15-1-686-smp kernel.. is there anythign specifically you would like to know? |
| 14:13.26 | knvinh | dvm1981: OK, I've found it, |
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| 14:13.48 | tralala | hipodilski: so it's either closed (very likely) or growisofs doesn't support cds (not so likely). |
| 14:13.50 | dvm1981 | knvinh: Also, Launch Feedback ;-) |
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| 14:13.53 | hipodilski | snapy: why k3b fails to write? I could ofcourse use cdrecord but I don't see logical reason for k3b not to write it? |
| 14:13.54 | knvinh | dvm1981: Appearance & Themes -> Faunch Feedback-> |
| 14:14.10 | tralala | quiet: so init doesn't start? |
| 14:14.11 | knvinh | dvm1981: Busy Cursor :) |
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| 14:14.45 | snapy | hipodilski, I am not familiar with k3b internals. I think that it's been long since they abandonned the "cdrecord call" philosophy |
| 14:15.12 | snapy | hipodilski, If cdrecord gives you those 2 numbers it means that the CD is open |
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| 14:15.50 | user__ | hi |
| 14:15.57 | snapy | hipodilski, I don't know growisofs very well neither, so I cannot tell you why it fails |
| 14:16.25 | user__ | whats the best way to automaticly block ssh bruteforce attepts? |
| 14:16.33 | hipodilski | snapy: k thanks |
| 14:16.42 | hipodilski | will try using cdrecord and will see what will happen |
| 14:16.54 | quiet | tralala, umm, i don't know? The last couple lines are: Begin: Moutning root file system... ... Begin: Running /scripts/local-top .... Done. ALERT! /dev/ida/c0d0p1 does not exist. Dropping to shell! |
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| 14:17.03 | tralala | user__: do not allow password logins. Not only this blocks brute force attempts but is also much more secure. |
| 14:17.04 | snapy | hipodilski, : The key is giving the multisession info to mkisofs correctly |
| 14:17.38 | snapy | hipodilski, and when you record with cdrecord, don't forget to give "-multi" to leave the disk still open |
| 14:17.39 | user__ | no, i cannot accept that |
| 14:17.43 | jm_ | snapy: it looks very informative though |
| 14:18.10 | tralala | quiet: do you know how to mount the initrd image? OK, mount -t cramfs -o loop /boot/initrd-whatever-2.6.15.image /somewhere; less /somewhere/loadmodules and see if your raid driver is there |
| 14:18.11 | mrspock | :tralala bts brings many bugs on dvd+rw-tools but non regarding input/output error |
| 14:18.26 | snapy | jm_: it took me two weeks to write it :) |
| 14:18.26 | user__ | im looking for sometool malbye that will block ip from login afterspecific number of failed login atepmts |
| 14:18.46 | quiet | tralala, do that from the busybox prompt?? or reboot into the 2.6.8 kernel?? |
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| 14:19.19 | tralala | mrspock: if you cannot find anything dual-layer or LG related there then it's probably the drive's fault |
| 14:19.19 | rrdf | citral: tried any other versions before etch? |
| 14:19.33 | rrdf | on your sun machine |
| 14:19.33 | tralala | quiet: boot with 2.6.8 |
| 14:20.05 | jm_ | is hipodilski still here? cdrecord -atip should tell you if it's closed or not |
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| 14:20.59 | mantang0 | any recommendations for an ftp daemon? |
| 14:21.21 | st0ner | shouldnt "modprobe nvidiafb" give me some framebuffer devices in /dev ?? |
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| 14:21.47 | jm_ | st0ner: are you using udev? |
| 14:21.47 | citral | rrdf: not really, I installed sarge and upgraded to etch directly |
| 14:21.52 | st0ner | yes |
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| 14:21.59 | jm_ | yeah I guess it should |
| 14:22.23 | citral | mantang0: depends, private or anonymous use ? |
| 14:22.23 | rrdf | and you did not have any dependency problems on sarge? |
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| 14:22.27 | tralala | st0ner: if it loads successfully |
| 14:22.29 | rrdf | citral.. |
| 14:22.30 | kronoz | hmm, when trying to install things with apt-get it trys to replace the current debhelper with the same version of debhelper, and then it goes into a hard freeze, can't kill X or use alt+sysrq+* |
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| 14:22.44 | lcore | Is it possible to mount ext3 partition ( m.point /media/data ) so that user mark will be able to read write to the partition? If so howto? |
| 14:22.58 | jm_ | lcore: mount it as user mark |
| 14:23.09 | st0ner | tralala: i dont see any complains so i assume it loads successful... |
| 14:23.27 | tralala | st0ner: not even in dmesg? |
| 14:23.35 | st0ner | tralala: lemme check |
| 14:23.36 | rrdf | citral: did you use current or beta2 in etch? |
| 14:23.40 | lcore | jm_: so /etc/fstab add opiton 'users' and mount as mark? |
| 14:23.46 | jm_ | lcore: right |
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| 14:24.11 | citral | rrdf: again, I installed with the sarge installer. Then I upgraded to etch. |
| 14:24.14 | jm_ | lcore: alternatively, even if you mount it as root and the dirs in /media/data have right permissions, your user can write to it |
| 14:25.12 | quiet | tralala, http://pastebin.com/607401 |
| 14:25.19 | lcore | jm_: That's what I'm doing now. Just wondering if I can shorten the path to /media/data/data a bit. :) |
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| 14:26.11 | st0ner | tralala: dmesg is fine |
| 14:26.11 | jm_ | lcore: some other filesystems, say vfat, let you do this via mount options (uid/gid), but not ext2/3 - there is a very old patch that adds such options, but I wouldn't bother with it |
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| 14:27.10 | lightcap | why would my kernel not be sitting in /usr/src after running make-kpkg? It looks like it exited cleanly, but there's no .deb |
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| 14:27.32 | silensius | how can i configure correctly font on xterm |
| 14:27.59 | lcore | jm_:Thanks just being curious. BTW your soultion: merk$ touch /media/data/file.txt gives perm denied. |
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| 14:28.28 | quiet | tralala, did you see my pastebin? |
| 14:28.34 | jm_ | lcore: chown the dir first |
| 14:28.42 | tralala | quiet: no - got disconnected |
| 14:28.48 | quiet | http://pastebin.com/607401 |
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| 14:29.15 | lcore | jm_: Oh. Just was going to ask that. |
| 14:29.20 | citral | silensius: create a .Xresources file. example: http://www.jjj.de/x11/.Xresources |
| 14:29.33 | lcore | jm_: before or afer mount? |
| 14:29.37 | silensius | thanks |
| 14:30.24 | tralala | quiet: are you sure you got the initrd filename right? |
| 14:30.33 | lcore | jm_: root# chown /media/data before or after mounting it as mark? |
| 14:30.36 | quiet | tralala, yep, tab completeion. |
| 14:30.40 | jm_ | lcore: before should do it I think |
| 14:30.42 | quiet | completion* |
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| 14:31.15 | citral | silensius: tip: use xrdb .Xresources to avoid login out/in of X every time you make changes |
| 14:31.28 | silensius | ok |
| 14:31.30 | tralala | quiet: msg me the ls /boot |
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| 14:31.54 | jm_ | lcore: works just fine for me |
| 14:32.15 | jm_ | lcore: when mounting it it gets my uid/gid |
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| 14:33.01 | jm_ | lcore: no chown needed |
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| 14:34.21 | lightcap | I ran fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=.060315 but there's not a file on my system that looks like anything make-kpkg would have built with part of the name 060315 |
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| 14:35.45 | Anthro | I am having an Xorg problem. I upgraded this morning (to 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4), and it now refuses to use 1280x1024 @ 16bit (which is what it had been using happily before the upgrade). It is using 856x480, for some reason. I tried this both with and without a Modeline for my monitor. Any suggestions? |
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| 14:36.21 | lcore | jm_: hah! Got my error : did users instead of user. thank you. |
| 14:36.29 | jm_ | lcore: both work |
| 14:36.32 | citral | Anthro: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 14:36.51 | lcore | jm_: Yes. Sorry :) |
| 14:37.12 | lcore | jm_: and thanks. |
| 14:37.17 | jm_ | lcore: no worries |
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| 14:38.03 | Anthro | citral: I have. It tells me: (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) |
| 14:38.20 | jm_ | Anthro: so find out why it's out of range then |
| 14:38.20 | Anthro | citral: Then, later: (II) SIS(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name) |
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| 14:38.33 | citral | Anthro: then adjust HorizSync30-90 |
| 14:38.40 | citral | and Vertsync |
| 14:38.44 | Anthro | citral: Okay, one sec... |
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| 14:39.00 | citral | Don't put 30-90 ! |
| 14:39.06 | mrspock1980 | I try to register myself to this irc, but it does not work? can anyone give me a quick help? |
| 14:39.24 | citral | Anthro: it's mine, but that is monitor-dependent |
| 14:39.29 | jm_ | !tell mrspock1980 -about register |
| 14:39.38 | Anthro | citral: That made it much happier. Thanks! |
| 14:39.44 | mrspock1980 | !tell mrspock1980 -about register |
| 14:39.48 | citral | ok |
| 14:39.48 | jm_ | haha he went and blindly applied it |
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| 14:40.14 | Anthro | jm_: Well, I knew that 1280x1024 had worked in the past and wasn't going to blow my monitor. |
| 14:40.25 | mrspock1980 | :jim_ not nice to make fun out of me... maybe you could help me? |
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| 14:40.36 | jm_ | Anthro: modern monitors have a protection against it, but that doesn't mean you should do it |
| 14:40.50 | jm_ | mrspock1980: wtf? you were told what to do to get help |
| 14:40.51 | tarzeau | could someone with opengl test a package? |
| 14:41.31 | mrspock1980 | :jim_ but the command, you sent me did not work |
| 14:41.42 | jm_ | it does work: *dpkg* told mrspock1980 about register. |
| 14:41.46 | silensius | i have erased dhclient.conf how can i regenerate it |
| 14:41.47 | Anthro | jm_: I'll put in more accurate settings later. In the meantime, it's up. |
| 14:41.53 | plbgnr | I get message 'g++: not found' which package should I install? |
| 14:42.00 | jm_ | !be plbgnr |
| 14:42.03 | tarzeau | plbgnr: g++ |
| 14:42.03 | jm_ | !b-e plbgnr |
| 14:42.04 | dpkg | plbgnr: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 14:42.19 | plbgnr | thanks |
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| 14:43.36 | gba | !tell gba -about register |
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| 14:44.03 | mrspock1980 | :jim_ possibly the problem is the irc client, I'm using? kopete? I know, that /msg nickserv register MYPASSWORD shoud regiter me... the manual sais that, but it seams not to have any impact |
| 14:44.12 | citral | gba: /msg dpkg register is much less noisy |
| 14:44.17 | jm_ | mrspock1980: /msg nickserv help |
| 14:44.45 | raul_24 | hi |
| 14:44.53 | raul_24 | i need help |
| 14:45.02 | citral | then ask a question... |
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| 14:45.26 | jm_ | mrspock1980: that works in most IRC client, no idea about Kopete |
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| 14:45.35 | DaBlade | Hey. |
| 14:45.49 | DaBlade | Is it possible to see from which repository a specific package was installed? |
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| 14:46.51 | DaBlade | Hello? Anyone around? :) |
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| 14:47.53 | gartt | Who would want to use kopete? |
| 14:48.11 | brianJP | DaBlade, I don't know, but ive wondered the same thing myself |
| 14:48.18 | DaBlade | ok. damn. |
| 14:48.28 | jm_ | apt-cache policy foo |
| 14:48.31 | dglerum | i'm still arounde |
| 14:48.55 | dglerum | what's up |
| 14:49.04 | thingfish | jm_: thanks |
| 14:49.21 | jm_ | thingfish: for? |
| 14:49.35 | thingfish | jm_: apt-cache policy * |
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| 14:49.42 | plbgnr | next problem:) : 'error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)' ...but I have python installed; and there is no result to 'dpkg -L python|grep config' or 'dpkg -L python|grep Makefile' ??? |
| 14:49.43 | jm_ | thingfish: ohh |
| 14:49.54 | jm_ | plbn;you need python-dev too |
| 14:50.02 | jm_ | for your python version that is |
| 14:50.09 | jm_ | so probably python2.3-dev |
| 14:50.11 | thingfish | although it looks like that gives the possible install origin, not the specific one. |
| 14:50.15 | plbgnr | jm_:thanks |
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| 14:50.40 | jm_ | thingfish: yes, indeed (i.e. if you remove something from sourcs.list you wouldn't know about it( |
| 14:51.22 | Kinxof_Sepluv | http://dat.4chan.org/b/src/1142606690226.jpg |
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| 14:52.12 | jm_ | plbgnr: "/msg dpkg search" to learn how to find out which package has given file |
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| 14:54.19 | abrotman | !moo |
| 14:54.20 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 14:55.15 | finn | how do I deaktivate rivafb support in the kernel? |
| 14:55.25 | finn | deactivate* |
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| 14:55.42 | jm_ | finn: Debian kernel? no need to, just don't load the module |
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| 14:57.51 | citral | jm_: first unload it, modprobe -r rivafb then, prevent it to load, you can rename it (mv rivafb.o rivafb.old) or use modconf, or whatever |
| 14:58.00 | jm_ | citral: not me :) |
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| 14:58.08 | citral | uh finn ;) |
| 14:58.34 | lightcap | for sarge, do I need to pass something to make-kpkg to create the initrd? |
| 14:59.02 | jm_ | --initrd IIRC, see /msg dpkg kp mantra |
| 14:59.06 | strider | lightcap: --initrd |
| 14:59.06 | hipodilski | snapy: thanks for the hint ;] |
| 14:59.06 | rrdf | now installing etch on sun blade thanks for the tip jm_ and citral... dvdrom detected, usb keyboard okai.. I hope it stays ;) |
| 14:59.08 | hipodilski | cya all |
| 14:59.14 | jm_ | rrdf: cool |
| 14:59.23 | lightcap | strider: any issues with doing that after the kernel_image target? |
| 14:59.27 | citral | rrdf: nice |
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| 14:59.50 | lightcap | strider: in other words I already ran it without --initrd |
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| 15:00.28 | rrdf | would have never found the link by myself to etch on the austrian debian mirrors.. |
| 15:00.42 | strider | lightcap: don't know, i haven't tried it separately |
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| 15:00.49 | lightcap | ok |
| 15:00.50 | abrotman | !tell citral about blacklist |
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| 15:03.02 | strider | lightcap: maybe use mkinitrd instead |
| 15:03.17 | raul_24 | hi my question is? you dont seem to be runnning a kernel with modular sound enabled |
| 15:03.36 | jm_ | strider: using --initrd will cause it to run mkinitrd |
| 15:03.39 | lightcap | I think I'll just rerun the kernel_image target with --initrd and see what happens :) |
| 15:03.44 | lightcap | I think it'll be fine |
| 15:03.50 | strider | jm_: he didn't use it |
| 15:03.53 | lightcap | then all I should have to do is run update-grub right? |
| 15:04.02 | abrotman | raul_24: that's not a question |
| 15:04.04 | jm_ | strider: yes, but he should use it if he needs an initrd image |
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| 15:04.54 | lewis2 | anyone know what the column headings are for 'ipmitool sensor' as there aren't any. |
| 15:05.02 | strider | jm_: yes, that he should ;) |
| 15:05.06 | plbgnr | \msg dpkg search |
| 15:05.12 | plbgnr | ops |
| 15:05.41 | sussudio | !\ |
| 15:05.41 | Eulex | s/\\/\// :) |
| 15:05.46 | raul_24 | abrotman my question is more long |
| 15:05.51 | Piggy | \o/ |
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| 15:06.02 | haseebu | i ahve a problem |
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| 15:06.15 | haseebu | abbt windows pls help me |
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| 15:06.31 | dvm1981 | !tell haseebu about ask |
| 15:06.34 | Eulex | !windows |
| 15:06.34 | dpkg | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
| 15:06.48 | haseebu | !windows |
| 15:06.49 | dpkg | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
| 15:06.56 | haseebu | ok listen |
| 15:07.02 | haseebu | abt windows vista |
| 15:07.07 | abrotman | WRONG CHANNEL |
| 15:07.12 | haseebu | pls |
| 15:07.33 | abrotman | your english is clearly substandard |
| 15:07.43 | abrotman | yay! |
| 15:07.47 | abrotman | !punish me |
| 15:07.56 | ekkikrist | what the heck was that :) |
| 15:08.03 | citral | methinks haseebu has something to do with abuse |
| 15:08.14 | Pryon | the game? |
| 15:08.21 | citral | the word |
| 15:08.28 | ekkikrist | the job |
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| 15:09.52 | nones210 | i use Mirc on WinXP |
| 15:09.59 | nones210 | please punish me |
| 15:10.09 | abrotman | nones210: no need .. you'll be hacked in a bit |
| 15:10.15 | thingfish | hehe |
| 15:10.25 | nones210 | i am rootkit for a long |
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| 15:10.53 | azeem | nones210: this is a Debian support channel, do you have any Debian-specific questions or want to help us do support? |
| 15:10.53 | thingfish | man, my sister's kids use aim...they get so filled up with viruses and trojans it's not funny. |
| 15:10.58 | azeem | if not, please stay quiet and watch |
| 15:10.59 | nones210 | my english is not very good but i try to ameliorate it |
| 15:11.12 | multi_io | wow, aptitude would be quite nice if it wasn't SEGFAULTING all the time... :-\ |
| 15:11.30 | rrdf | citral: any experience with non-ecc rams in your sun machine? |
| 15:11.32 | nones210 | azeem> iam a debian user but we need to developp on microsoft visual studio |
| 15:11.44 | nones210 | apologize me |
| 15:11.46 | azeem | nones210: that is irrelevant in here |
| 15:11.47 | citral | rrdf: no |
| 15:11.49 | azeem | no problem |
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| 15:11.49 | waltz | oh the horror! |
| 15:11.54 | coolpix | lo |
| 15:11.57 | nones210 | lo |
| 15:12.00 | waltz | lo |
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| 15:12.17 | dvm1981 | nones210: So try to read this stuff here without boring all the people then! |
| 15:12.24 | Eulex | nones210, try wine. if that doesn't work, dual boot. if that's not feasible, you're SOL |
| 15:12.36 | nones210 | ok |
| 15:12.50 | nones210 | i don't boring anybody |
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| 15:12.59 | concept10 | hehe |
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| 15:16.13 | J_P | hi all |
| 15:17.19 | dvm1981 | Yo |
| 15:17.57 | lightcap | why don't kernel images show up in the output of dpkg -l? |
| 15:18.15 | jm_ | they do |
| 15:18.15 | lightcap | I see kernel-source, but no kernel-images |
| 15:18.18 | lightcap | hmm |
| 15:18.27 | jm_ | perhaps it's named linux-image? |
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| 15:18.55 | raul_24 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.55 | raul_24 | am rooky in linux my question is |
| 15:18.55 | raul_24 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.56 | raul_24 | am use knoopix |
| 15:18.56 | raul_24 | y el operating system tell a message: |
| 15:18.56 | raul_24 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:19.00 | lightcap | it says No packages found matching kernel-image-2.6.15.6.060315_10.00.Custom_i386.deb. |
| 15:19.34 | lightcap | does the .deb need to be put in the apt cache or something? |
| 15:19.35 | jm_ | lightcap: dpkg -l 'kernel*' |
| 15:19.43 | dvm1981 | raul_24 : Go to #knoppix !!! |
| 15:19.59 | lightcap | ah, okay |
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| 15:20.02 | lightcap | bad syntax :) |
| 15:20.04 | lightcap | thanks jm |
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| 15:20.19 | Storkme | is there any way to synchronize my local time with some global GMT server or something? |
| 15:20.40 | jm_ | !tell Storkme -about setting time |
| 15:20.49 | lightcap | jm_: how can I get the full name of the package...it only shows kernel-image-2 with a version |
| 15:20.52 | ekkikrist | Storkme: yes, apt-get install ntpdate |
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| 15:20.53 | locus | I have a question regarding a custom kernel..are the debian patches already applied when I install kernel-sources-xxx? or do I need to do that manually before compiling |
| 15:21.15 | Jhair | lightcap: COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l 'kernel*' |
| 15:21.26 | lightcap | thanks Jhair |
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| 15:21.44 | jm_ | lightcap: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l .... |
| 15:21.52 | jm_ | too slow |
| 15:22.07 | thingfish | locus: if they are Debian provided kernel-sources, then no, you don't have to do anything. |
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| 15:23.05 | abrotman | !tell raul_24 about knoppix |
| 15:23.07 | mileskeaton | Anyone using PostgreSQL 8 via apt-get? |
| 15:23.09 | locus | thingfish, ok thanks |
| 15:23.21 | abrotman | mileskeaton: about 245,423 people |
| 15:23.42 | raul_24 | my problm is i can't install sound card |
| 15:23.53 | mileskeaton | I'm setting up a new Debian unstable box, but was surprised that even in apt-get unstable, PostgreSQL is in version 7. |
| 15:23.54 | abrotman | raul_24: /join #knoppix |
| 15:24.04 | raul_24 | ok thanks |
| 15:24.06 | abrotman | mileskeaton: apt-cache search postgresql .. they are both available |
| 15:24.21 | mileskeaton | abrotman: ah. ok. thanks. |
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| 15:24.30 | abrotman | mileskeaton: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=postgresql&searchon=names&subword=1&version=unstable&release=all |
| 15:24.42 | abrotman | for that matter .. 7.4,8.0, and 8.1 are available |
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| 15:24.59 | lucas_ | Good afternoon from Eindhoven, The Netherlands |
| 15:25.16 | mileskeaton | abrotman: Ah! Yeah - that's more like it. Thanks again. |
| 15:25.22 | abrotman | mileskeaton: enjoy |
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| 15:25.51 | lucas_ | Question: I have installed kde using 'apt-get install kde'. It installed a huge amount of packages. Now how am I going to uninstall kde? |
| 15:26.22 | thingfish | lucas_: /msg dpkg remove kde |
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| 15:27.18 | lucas_ | thingfish: not really... |
| 15:27.45 | lightcap | what symlinks is dpkg talking about: Not touching initrd symlinks since we are being reinstalled (10.00.Custom) |
| 15:27.51 | lightcap | I don't see any symlinks in /boot |
| 15:28.11 | _xavier | Hi, does anybody know how to launch a script when a module is inserted by udev |
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| 15:30.56 | lucas_ | The question is: if because of dependencies a lot of extra packages are installed, how can I deinstall a package with all its dependencies, withou breaking anything else? |
| 15:31.10 | jm_ | lucas_: aptitude does that for you |
| 15:31.21 | abrotman | aptitude can apparently do that .. or look at deborphan |
| 15:31.26 | abrotman | !udev |
| 15:31.27 | dpkg | udev is, like, at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
| 15:31.49 | lewis2 | anyone know about the PowerEdge 1850 sensor locations, shown by 'ipmitool sensors', or 'ipmitool sdr'? |
| 15:32.05 | abrotman | is this random question day? |
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| 15:32.48 | Daveman | sup abrotman? |
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| 15:33.04 | abrotman | hi |
| 15:33.18 | Daveman | how's your day doing? |
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| 15:34.23 | belkin | why echo "1" /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all doesnt write 1 inside that file ? |
| 15:34.41 | Daveman | ... |
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| 15:34.47 | Fox | tsss |
| 15:34.49 | Daveman | rofl |
| 15:34.52 | Fox | echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all |
| 15:34.52 | jm_ | hehe |
| 15:35.02 | abrotman | Daveman: really .. read the backlog .. |
| 15:35.04 | lucas_ | jm: COuld you give a suggestion which aptitude command to use? |
| 15:35.13 | Daveman | abrotman o.O |
| 15:35.20 | abrotman | lucas_: man aptitude |
| 15:35.23 | jm_ | lucas_: aptitude remove foo or aptitude purge foo, but it won't work if you haven't installed it with aptitude in first place |
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| 15:35.42 | Daveman | hahaha |
| 15:35.54 | Daveman | abrotman, heh :) |
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| 15:36.16 | lucas_ | jm: hmmm... ok thank you... I guess I have to reinstall my system and try again |
| 15:36.36 | jm_ | lucas_: naah |
| 15:37.10 | jm_ | lucas_: just use aptitude from now on, mark/unmarkauto commands might be needed |
| 15:37.13 | lucas_ | jm: because I never used aptitude before. Just apt-get... |
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| 15:37.44 | abrotman | lucas_: you can try deborphan |
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| 15:38.40 | jm_ | lucas_: yeah see what abrotman told you |
| 15:39.22 | lucas_ | jm_, abrotman: thanks for the advice! I think I have some path to follow. |
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| 15:40.20 | Daveman | yeah, always listen to what abrotman tells you :P |
| 15:40.23 | lewis2 | can anyone explain the following line from 'netstat -a': tcp6 0 0 ::ffff:192.168.0.3%:ssh ::ffff:192.168.0.1:2063 ESTABLISHED |
| 15:40.49 | abrotman | ACK! .. lots of 'f'! |
| 15:40.57 | abrotman | is valgrind the only thing to find memory leaks? |
| 15:41.07 | valdyn | lewis2: what's wrong with it? |
| 15:41.15 | dimir | abrotman: no |
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| 15:41.27 | abrotman | dimir: packaged in debian .. |
| 15:41.53 | abrotman | dimir: apt-cache show leak .. shows a lot |
| 15:41.57 | dimir | ccmalloc <-- but never used it. :-) |
| 15:42.15 | lewis2 | what does the ffff stuff mean, and tcp6? why is it using IPv6? and what is on port 2063? |
| 15:42.45 | dimir | abrotman: I personally use valgrind for a long time and am happy about it. |
| 15:42.50 | valdyn | lewis2: just ignore the ffff stuff if you do not actively use ipv6 |
| 15:43.13 | dimir | abrotman: that doesn't mean there is no better thing out there though. |
| 15:43.24 | abrotman | dimir: it's for a language called erlang .. i don't know if that matters |
| 15:43.50 | lewis2 | and port 2063? |
| 15:44.22 | abrotman | dimir: i'm asking for a guy trying to debug some server that seems to reset itself once or twice a day ... |
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| 15:45.32 | dimir | abrotman: Hmmm, I don't know if it matters. |
| 15:45.50 | dimir | abrotman: but you'll never know until you try, eh? ;-) |
| 15:45.53 | abrotman | dimir: apparently ejabberd is a hog :) |
| 15:46.10 | desk | alguien en español ??¿¿ |
| 15:46.13 | Fox | !es |
| 15:46.14 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 15:46.45 | dimir | abrotman: heh, I knew you needed it for ejabberd! |
| 15:46.50 | dimir | :-P |
| 15:46.59 | abrotman | dimir: did you really? |
| 15:47.03 | jair | guys I am trying to have a test debian server and apache server using IP style virtual hosting for a instructor of web design class. |
| 15:47.09 | valdyn | lewis2: looks like an ssh tunnel to me |
| 15:47.09 | abrotman | dimir: oh yeah .. what else uses erlang :) |
| 15:47.11 | dimir | abrotman: naaaah, just guessed. :-) |
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| 15:47.15 | desk | gracias !!! |
| 15:47.17 | nexus | anyone using fvwm95 |
| 15:47.17 | dimir | abrotman: exactly! |
| 15:47.22 | abrotman | dimir: stupid jabber.org :) |
| 15:47.26 | jair | abrotman, have you ever have a virtual domain host with apache 1.xx |
| 15:47.27 | dimir | :-P |
| 15:47.28 | valdyn | lewis2: netstat -punt should tell a little more |
| 15:47.40 | jair | hello valdyn :) |
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| 15:47.50 | abrotman | jair: the docs totally cover vhosts |
| 15:47.55 | jair | abrotman, right |
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| 15:48.10 | rolo | hi how do i mount my dvd unit ? |
| 15:48.34 | valdyn | rolo: mount what? |
| 15:48.43 | jair | abrotman, but my question is, that means that the ips that I will be using are the same ones on the local network?? like 192.168.0.1 ---> 2 ----> 3 ----->4 etc... if I want IP style. |
| 15:48.45 | rolo | my dvd drive |
| 15:48.50 | valdyn | rolo: what for? |
| 15:49.14 | rolo | to see what the dvds content ares |
| 15:49.14 | rolo | are |
| 15:49.22 | valdyn | rolo: man mount |
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| 15:49.59 | valdyn | rolo: though there's not much point mounting it if the 'contents' is a movie |
| 15:50.00 | sobersabre | hi. |
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| 15:51.16 | rolo | valdyn |
| 15:51.23 | rolo | so how do i read it ? |
| 15:51.30 | valdyn | rolo: read what? |
| 15:51.32 | rolo | i mean how do i see the movie ? |
| 15:51.40 | Fox | jair: is that the real question ? :/ |
| 15:51.42 | jair | anyone here have had figure out how to make the usb flash drive auto mounting and icon placing on the desktop of the debian system gnome or kde? |
| 15:51.44 | valdyn | !marillat |
| 15:51.45 | dpkg | somebody said marillat was an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> |
| 15:51.53 | jair | Fox, how are you |
| 15:52.04 | valdyn | rolo: with a dvd player software |
| 15:52.10 | sobersabre | I have a Q about ssl/wget/sh. I am trying to d/l many files from ssl'ed sites with my cert with wget via script. the problem is that I need to type in SSL key password each time. is there a wget's means to use the same password or maybe some other not expect'ed way ? maybe I should read, maybe I should use perl ? |
| 15:52.11 | Fox | fine, thanx |
| 15:52.13 | valdyn | rolo: vlc, xine, mplayer, totem, whatever |
| 15:52.18 | rolo | valdyn i got onw called okle |
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| 15:52.24 | rolo | but it says there is not /dev/dvd |
| 15:52.25 | sobersabre | I am currently using sh. |
| 15:52.27 | valdyn | rolo: thats probably ogle |
| 15:52.30 | jair | Fox, you have experience doing the vhost ip style with apache 1.3.3? |
| 15:52.35 | sobersabre | I have read man wget. |
| 15:52.35 | rolo | right gui for ogle |
| 15:52.44 | valdyn | rolo: maybe /dev/hdc |
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| 15:52.46 | rolo | kde gui for ogle is okle |
| 15:52.52 | Fox | jair: sure I do |
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| 15:53.31 | jair | Fox, I was reading the vhost document in the apache site |
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| 15:53.41 | jair | and so far I have a very simple http.conf |
| 15:53.54 | Fox | that's a good thing |
| 15:54.00 | jair | Fox, I need to create vhost in the internal network |
| 15:54.19 | rolo | how do i know which one is my dvd drive ??? hdc hdd ? |
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| 15:54.47 | Fox | jair: I still don't see where the problem is |
| 15:54.54 | jair | for example: I have so far one server debian 3.1 running apache 1.3.3 ok, and I have the doc root = /home/fox instead the default /var/www |
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| 15:55.57 | nuxil | hello people.. is there a kde3.5 pkg for sarge? |
| 15:55.58 | jair | Fox, I am now reading about the vhost and it looks like I will need to use couple of ips but I am not sure if this IPs are private ips or static ips externals? Can I use static ips form my private network, I do not need external access to this server. |
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| 15:56.41 | thingfish | nuxil: in backports, yes. |
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| 15:57.03 | belkin | why echo "1" /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all doesnt write 1 inside that file ? |
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| 15:57.17 | nuxil | thingfish backports?.. do i need to edit my source.list? |
| 15:57.34 | thingfish | nuxil: yes. backports.org should tell you what to do. |
| 15:57.41 | nuxil | ahh.. thxz |
| 15:57.49 | Sonny | Hi, I remored kde,,,, but all its apps left installed here, how can I remove all of them? |
| 15:57.53 | cahoot | belkin: echo "1" > etc |
| 15:58.02 | Eulex | belkin, you forgot the > between "1" and the file? |
| 15:58.08 | thingfish | nuxil: you add their line to sources.list, apt-get update, then proceed as normal. |
| 15:58.19 | Fox | jair: yes you can use private IPs |
| 15:58.41 | Eulex | !remove kde |
| 15:58.41 | dpkg | from memory, remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 15:58.52 | thingfish | nuxil: but watch the deps - backports packages can have extensive deps that might result in removing major things. |
| 15:58.55 | Eulex | Sonny, the kde packages is just a meta-package. |
| 15:58.57 | uwe | hello, does anyone know if there is a dlz patch for bind 9.2.4 that comes with debian stable ? |
| 15:59.13 | Eulex | !metapackage |
| 15:59.13 | dpkg | well, metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. |
| 15:59.41 | jair | Fox, ok that is good then basically I have to play with the directories and the http.conf right and normally those IPs will be private but static :) |
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| 16:00.01 | belkin | thanks guys |
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| 16:02.09 | TiTaN_pi8 | Hellow |
| 16:02.20 | TiTaN_pi8 | can anybody tell what the status is on X.org |
| 16:02.34 | st0ner | is the abiword debian binary compiled for aspell or ispell ? |
| 16:02.46 | Eulex | TiTaN_pi8, define "status" |
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| 16:03.20 | Eulex | st0ner, afaik it uses libenchant, which then uses aspell, ispell, whatever |
| 16:03.36 | TiTaN_pi8 | is it stable enought to use it in a desktop environment |
| 16:03.42 | st0ner | Eulex: okay thnaks |
| 16:03.46 | Eulex | TiTaN_pi8, yes, definitely |
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| 16:04.21 | Eulex | st0ner, libenchant1 depends on libaspell15 and libmyspell3, but not on ispell in any way. |
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| 16:04.40 | nukey | hi. i've just installed Sarge and its defaulted to running Gnome.. is there an easy way to use KDE instead (also installed I think) |
| 16:05.13 | TiTaN_pi8 | and I understand you can get some nice eyecandy, using X.org? Does that work with KDE? or do you need a special kind of window manager, or something... And does this eyecandy work on most videocards (Radeon 9600?)? |
| 16:05.16 | rrdf | so linux 2.6 on sun blade running.. what is needed for running xfce4 from X.org before? xserver-common enough? |
| 16:05.20 | Zrin | is there an usable file system for debian which has versioning and/or undeleting feature? |
| 16:05.23 | thingfish | nukey, at the gdm login screen, look under Session |
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| 16:05.40 | nukey | thanks thingfish :) |
| 16:05.48 | thingfish | ;) |
| 16:05.50 | st0ner | okay ill use enchant/aspell |
| 16:06.34 | Eulex | TiTaN_pi8, for a 9600, you'd need at least xorg 6.9.0. also, I don't know if kde includes a composite manager. otherwise, you could just run xcompmgr and transset |
| 16:07.17 | st0ner | the latest kde has a composite mngr |
| 16:07.19 | Eulex | rrdf, get x-window-system. or x-window-system-core if you want to stay light. |
| 16:07.40 | quiet | how can I verify dual cpu's and their usage? |
| 16:07.56 | st0ner | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 16:08.12 | Eulex | quiet, there should be a way of seeing both cpus in top. I don't remember it though. |
| 16:08.20 | st0ner | press 1 |
| 16:08.46 | thingfish | it seems like top used to show multiple cpus separately, but not anymore. |
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| 16:08.57 | quiet | oh neat. |
| 16:08.59 | quiet | thanks |
| 16:09.11 | thingfish | although I hadn't looked to see if there's a switch for it. |
| 16:09.36 | st0ner | there is ;) -- i love my x2 4200+ |
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| 16:13.22 | lkj1 | Why isn't my thumbrive showing up in/etc/fstab or /etc/mtab or konqueror? |
| 16:13.28 | TiTaN_pi8 | on packages.debian.org I see kde has version 5:44, how does this match to KDE's internal versioning (latest version is 3.5.1)? |
| 16:14.07 | cheal | TiTaN_pi8: it doesn't |
| 16:14.22 | abrotman | TiTaN_pi8: that's a metapackage |
| 16:14.23 | lkj1 | it showed up earlier. I have rebooted several times but it doesn't work |
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| 16:15.05 | thingfish | how the hell does one person accumulate so many ide cables... |
| 16:15.31 | initsix | I have an issue with apt-get dependencies.. i installed syslog-ng to handle external firewall logging only.. and now when i run apt-get to install anything else it complains that syslog-ng conflicts with sysklogd and the dependencies must be resolved |
| 16:15.36 | TiTaN_pi8 | I see, it's KDE base I should be looking at, right? |
| 16:15.43 | mrverbose | how can i burn dvd rams? |
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| 16:16.08 | quiet | thingfish, because motherboards gve you cables, boxes sometimes give you cables, etc... why the hell do we KEEP them all is the question ;) |
| 16:16.14 | quiet | i have a box full of them. |
| 16:16.27 | quiet | IDE cables and power cords... i could build a bridge.. |
| 16:16.28 | zinx | i have boxes full of them /o\ |
| 16:16.30 | quiet | heheh. |
| 16:16.33 | zinx | but i use them sometimes |
| 16:16.52 | quiet | i do too *sometimes* |
| 16:16.53 | zinx | it's handy having them around when needed for bringing old hardware back to life |
| 16:16.53 | cheal | TiTaN_pi8: see #debian-kde |
| 16:16.58 | zinx | now what i don't understand |
| 16:17.03 | quiet | but I'll never use 100 of 'em... heh. |
| 16:17.04 | zinx | is how the hell i accumulated so many screws |
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| 16:17.16 | quiet | zinx, YES! those too! |
| 16:17.38 | quiet | I have all mine in a snap craftbox.. ya know with all the little compartments |
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| 16:17.49 | zinx | yeah |
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| 16:18.01 | zinx | i've got 'em sorted by size and threads |
| 16:18.04 | wireddd | thingfish, i'm not sure where the ide cables come from but I have a box of just ide cables in my closet... |
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| 16:18.11 | zinx | and sometimes the style of the head |
| 16:18.13 | Led_Zeppelin | if I make an try to /etc/hosts , how can I validate the change? |
| 16:18.36 | quiet | wireddd, maybe... they have interest?? the collection just magically grows. |
| 16:18.39 | quiet | ;) |
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| 16:18.51 | thingfish | wireddd: me too. |
| 16:18.52 | wireddd | there breeding someone save me |
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| 16:18.58 | thingfish | hehe |
| 16:19.01 | quiet | Led_Zeppelin, ping one of the new hosts by name. |
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| 16:19.50 | Led_Zeppelin | quiet: its behind a DMZ |
| 16:20.08 | Led_Zeppelin | quiet: still be able to do that? also ping/icmp may be disabled |
| 16:20.23 | quiet | Led_Zeppelin, that's a question for you then..? |
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| 16:21.25 | Led_Zeppelin | quiet: heh not sure |
| 16:21.26 | borco | hi |
| 16:21.32 | wireddd | does anyone else have a computer with a 3dfx voodoo4 video card in it running 2.6.15? I ask because whenever I try and use it my 3dfx card doesn't work properly |
| 16:21.40 | Led_Zeppelin | quiet: I was wondering if there is a better way to verify my changes in /etc/hosts |
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| 16:21.55 | borco | anybody geting something like '*** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list' recently? |
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| 16:22.06 | azeem | borco: bug in the application |
| 16:22.15 | rrdf | xserver running on sun blade 100 but frequenzy of screen is wrong..cannot see anything... |
| 16:22.24 | quiet | Led_Zeppelin, like, what kind of change?? it's a pretty straight forward file.. I guess I don't understad what you need to verify? |
| 16:22.31 | borco | azeem, it was working nicely before my last upgrade... |
| 16:22.47 | azeem | borco: the bug didn't get exposed until then, maybe |
| 16:22.52 | borco | azeem, if I run the app with valgrind, it also runs ok, with no leaks ... |
| 16:22.56 | azeem | borco: is it an error or a warning? |
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| 16:23.09 | nicolas_1 | hello |
| 16:23.09 | Led_Zeppelin | quiet: once I apply the change, how can I know that my change has taken effect? |
| 16:23.09 | borco | azeem, error and then aborts. |
| 16:23.10 | azeem | borco: maybe a bug in a library it is using? |
| 16:23.31 | borco | azeem, maybe. it uses c++ and openssl. |
| 16:24.01 | azeem | borco: from what to what did you upgrade? |
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| 16:24.32 | quiet | Led_Zeppelin, they should take effect immediately... else you can /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 16:24.44 | Led_Zeppelin | aa okay..thanks quad3datwork2 |
| 16:24.46 | Led_Zeppelin | quiet |
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| 16:25.00 | borco | azeem, for unstable. upgraded today with changes done during last couple of 2-3 days ... |
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| 16:25.02 | rrdf | is there any method du start debian in 75hz mode on silo boot menü? |
| 16:25.13 | borco | azeem, the g++ was upgraded... |
| 16:25.18 | azeem | hrm |
| 16:25.28 | azeem | rrdf: you mean the framebuffer? |
| 16:25.35 | azeem | rrdf: maybe some vga= value? |
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| 16:26.12 | rrdf | well its a rage XL 8MB Onboard.. is framebuffer supported? I think the refresh rates are wrong on xserver |
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| 16:26.30 | azeem | rrdf: then change the server config, rather? |
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| 16:27.17 | rrdf | how can I change server config.. x starting automtically at boot ;(.. any idea? |
| 16:27.24 | Grumpy_joe | I'm using debian testing, but I want to use a package from stable, SCIM, however it conflicts with libstdc++6 for some reason, is it possible/safe to override this? |
| 16:27.30 | azeem | !nodm |
| 16:27.30 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
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| 16:27.46 | roconnor | when I do ifup eth0 I get (amoung other things) sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 irq 11: nobody cared! |
| 16:28.04 | azeem | rrdf: maybe you should start to use Debian on a regular PC for a while, before you try SPARC? |
| 16:28.12 | roconnor | What part of my pcmcia network card installation is broken? |
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| 16:28.55 | rrdf | I tried debian on a lot of pc`s already.. and I got this sparc machine as a present.. so why not use debian if its supported? |
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| 16:28.56 | roconnor | it goes on to give a long winded error trace before disabling IRQ 11 |
| 16:29.16 | azeem | rrdf: ok then |
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| 16:29.48 | StyXman | hi all. trying to generate a new self signed certificate for apache I get this: http://pastebin.com/607623 any hints? |
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| 16:30.29 | rrdf | I only have 64mb ram.. and want to use xfce4 with vlc media player.. solaris 10 and 9 need more than 96Mb RAM |
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| 16:31.55 | rrdf | I cannot get to the consol .. screen frequenzy stays with ctrl-alt-Fn |
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| 16:32.11 | Coweater | boot single user mode and fix it |
| 16:32.13 | Coweater | or ssh in |
| 16:32.44 | rrdf | single user, which boot option on silo? |
| 16:32.52 | azeem | rrdf: read the silo manual |
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| 16:32.57 | azeem | we don't know anything about sparc in here |
| 16:33.00 | azeem | hah, maybe helix does |
| 16:33.05 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 16:33.05 | dpkg | sparc is probably the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
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| 16:33.42 | azeem | to compile the kernel? |
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| 16:34.00 | azeem | !silo |
| 16:34.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, silo is the Sparc Improved Linux LOader. It is designed to boot GNU/Linux on Sun Sparc hardware. |
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| 16:34.41 | junocake | I'm trying to use VNC, but after I start up the server and connect I get a grey X screen and cursor. my ~/.vnc/xstartup has twm in it and the log shows VNC started properly. Any ideas? |
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| 16:35.01 | xoz | junocake: use vnc4server |
| 16:35.06 | rrdf | I already know this.. I got DEBIAN running on my sparc already, I just wanna know how to config xserver when my screen is not recognized with 75hz.. I`m one step next to getting everything to work..has nothing to do with sparc when refresh rate is wrong? |
| 16:35.08 | junocake | xoz, that's what I'm using |
| 16:35.19 | azeem | rrdf: no |
| 16:35.26 | azeem | rrdf: what you want to know is how to boot into the console |
| 16:35.31 | azeem | and THEN reconfigure X |
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| 16:35.48 | azeem | for the first, read the silo manual, I'd say |
| 16:35.50 | xoz | junocake: can you add xterm in xstartup and see if it is started? |
| 16:35.53 | azeem | for the second: |
| 16:35.55 | azeem | !drx |
| 16:35.55 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
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| 16:36.31 | treyh0 | why is portmap part of the default debian install but openssh-server isn't (in etch)? |
| 16:36.35 | borco | azeem, you were right - apparently it was some bug in my code that was not detected before ... interesting. |
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| 16:36.43 | xoz | !drx =~ s/ask/ask me |
| 16:36.44 | Ronin | *yawn* |
| 16:36.45 | azeem | borco: oh, cool :) |
| 16:36.46 | borco | azeem, thanx. |
| 16:36.47 | junocake | xoz, nope those aren't starting either |
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| 16:36.53 | pawdro | how to check informations about package using apt? |
| 16:36.59 | junocake | weird cause I don't see anything in my logs or any error messages |
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| 16:37.03 | Ronin | amazing folks still try that |
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| 16:38.33 | junocake | xoz, the xterm and xclock processes show up though |
| 16:38.41 | borco | azeem, do you know when is this happening? i fail to find exact (all) conditions for triggering this... |
| 16:39.03 | azeem | borco: no, sorry. I only know that glibc barfs about this for a while now |
| 16:39.20 | jazbo | Anyone have a favorite light-weight linux compatible device? |
| 16:39.20 | xoz | junocake: you said xterm is not started? |
| 16:39.23 | borco | azeem, oh ... |
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| 16:39.37 | junocake | xoz, it doesn't show up on the VNC screen, but it does show up as a process |
| 16:39.38 | jazbo | and cheap... |
| 16:39.45 | zinx | Ronin: amazing they still succeed |
| 16:39.53 | zinx | Ronin: vxworks is horrible :) |
| 16:40.08 | junocake | if I have the VNC server query GDM I can get a GDM login screen, but it won't display individual apps or a WM |
| 16:40.47 | xoz | junocake: can you paste in flood your xstartup and the ls output of .vnc? also the exact command to for the client |
| 16:41.16 | borco | bye |
| 16:41.17 | junocake | xoz, sure |
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| 16:42.51 | xoz | junocake: what about vncviewer? |
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| 16:43.59 | junocake | xoz, I don't know, haven't really used it, this machine is a headless mythtv box so I normally just connect to it |
| 16:44.14 | junocake | xoz, I'll check it out |
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| 16:44.26 | xoz | junocake: vncserver is to start it. you use vncviewer to view it. |
| 16:44.36 | junocake | xoz, yes I know that |
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| 16:44.58 | rrdf | what I want to know is how can I boot into linux with 75hz or 60hz refresh rate in silo.. theres nothing about silo oot options with these options on there homepage.. |
| 16:45.04 | junocake | xoz, normally I start the vncserver on the server, then connect to it with a vncviewer over a forwaded SSH connection |
| 16:45.18 | xoz | junocake: can you comment the xresources line and see if xterm and xclock shows up |
| 16:45.27 | xoz | junocake: same here |
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| 16:46.05 | junocake | xoz, nope, still shows a grey screen |
| 16:46.12 | xoz | junocake: can you use vnc4server :02 instead of simple vncserver? |
| 16:46.54 | junocake | xoz, same thing |
| 16:47.26 | rrdf | can I prevent xserver from beeing loaded?? |
| 16:47.40 | rrdf | at boot ? |
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| 16:47.47 | xoz | junocake: check the config in /etc/vnc.conf |
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| 16:48.07 | moi1392 | hello, I need xorg 7.0 in amd64, should I build it myself or it is going to migrate from experimental to sid soon (I can wait 1-2 month) |
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| 16:49.04 | quiet | how do I delete an entire database in mysql? |
| 16:49.23 | junocake | xoz, I pasted a link to it in flood |
| 16:49.24 | Daedalus_ | quiet: the DROP command |
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| 16:49.54 | quiet | Daedalus_, d'oh.. i knew that... thanks. ;) |
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| 16:50.37 | Daedalus_ | quiet: yup. No prob |
| 16:51.01 | xoz | junocake: no prob i guess. your vncserver worked before? |
| 16:51.25 | junocake | xoz, yes, it was working great for a couple days then it just stopped |
| 16:51.59 | xoz | junocake: is this sid? |
| 16:52.11 | junocake | xoz, no, it's sarge |
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| 16:53.14 | unstable | How can I tell how big a package is and it's dependencies if I already have it installed? |
| 16:53.22 | junocake | xoz, it happened after cedega crashed and I had to force kill it, then the WM wouldn't launch apps, I killed the vncserver and this happened when I tried to restart it |
| 16:53.24 | xoz | junocake: can you try another wm like fluxbox? |
| 16:53.50 | xoz | junocake: try another display number |
| 16:53.55 | junocake | xoz, yeah, I've tried fluxbox, wmaker, twm, kde, gnome, etc, the only time it does work is when I do a -query localhost, then it'll pull up GDM and I can login |
| 16:54.08 | junocake | xoz, did that too, all the way up to :09, still the same thing |
| 16:54.36 | quiet | can anyone help me with drupal on debian? |
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| 16:56.05 | xoz | junocake: im lost. try purgind and reinstalling vncserver |
| 16:56.14 | xoz | *purging* |
| 16:56.36 | junocake | xoz, haha, did that too, even compiled it from source packages |
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| 16:57.14 | xoz | junocake: and reboot? |
| 16:57.32 | quiet | I have apache2, mysql 5.0, php4 and php4-mysql installed. i installed drupal, allowed it to create the database and everything. It automatically configures apache to use <host>/drupal/ When I access the site though, all i have is a bit of bare text. None of the usual CSS and whatnot. |
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| 16:58.02 | Jimz | im using screen on a freshly installed system, and the monitor flashes white quickly for the first time when I tab-complete or use the left cursor key at the prompt - is there a config option or something to stop this? |
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| 16:59.17 | FoxAFK | bye |
| 16:59.23 | junocake | xoz, yup |
| 16:59.30 | junocake | xoz, it's one heck of a mess |
| 16:59.41 | abrotman | Jimz: it's your visual bell |
| 16:59.45 | d0ug | what's with some ISPs like aol that when i get a viewer from their domain, there are several proxy hosts tuning into apache for each different http request? Is this their trick to butt ahead in line of throttled servers? |
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| 17:00.55 | abrotman | d0ug: is that a debian question? |
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| 17:01.50 | jbroome | i'm sure aol is running debian *somewhere* |
| 17:01.59 | quiet | aol runs solaris |
| 17:03.20 | abrotman | i don't think me means the webservers |
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| 17:04.03 | Jimz | abrotman : ah thanks |
| 17:04.09 | abrotman | Jimz: make sense? |
| 17:04.11 | Jimz | yeah |
| 17:04.16 | quiet | I had a cousin that was the creator of the moviefone section, he said they run soalris for almost everything. |
| 17:04.32 | tdn | I would like to have some virtual servers on one of my Debian servers. How to I install a virtual server in Debian stable? |
| 17:04.39 | abrotman | quiet: all jbroome said was *somewhere* |
| 17:04.59 | quiet | yeah i know. |
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| 17:06.16 | tarzeau | !POPCON |
| 17:06.16 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 17:06.21 | xoz | solaris machine is slow/dollar |
| 17:06.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: wanna try dd2? |
| 17:06.31 | ifeanyi_ | hey I need help |
| 17:06.43 | ifeanyi_ | cannot configure my sound card |
| 17:06.48 | abrotman | tarzeau: i'm at work .. why don't you ever ask me at night .. are you too busy spanking the neighbor? |
| 17:07.12 | ifeanyi_ | can anyone help |
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| 17:08.02 | shafiq_n | hi guys |
| 17:08.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: secretary |
| 17:08.19 | ifeanyi_ | hey shafiq can you help |
| 17:08.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes, ah i've wanted to show you , right? |
| 17:08.28 | shafiq_n | wow, u guys r great |
| 17:08.29 | jazbo | !ask |
| 17:08.29 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 17:08.30 | ifeanyi_ | with my sound card |
| 17:08.32 | tarzeau | abrotman: man. you're never online at home |
| 17:08.46 | shafiq_n | yes thank u ifeanyi, i just installed debian linux 3.1 |
| 17:08.50 | junocake | xoz, haha, I'm working with one of our solaris machines at the moment, slowest one we have |
| 17:08.55 | ifeanyi_ | ok |
| 17:09.10 | shafiq_n | since last night, i'm infront of this black screen |
| 17:09.12 | ifeanyi_ | am new to all this am sorry for not been direct |
| 17:09.17 | jazbo | np |
| 17:09.18 | shafiq_n | i wanna get to the desktop now |
| 17:09.18 | xoz | junocake: syn ultra? |
| 17:09.23 | junocake | xoz, yeah |
| 17:09.24 | shafiq_n | i know no commands at all |
| 17:09.30 | ifeanyi_ | ok |
| 17:09.45 | ifeanyi_ | ok guys |
| 17:09.53 | ifeanyi_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:09.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: can you not stay logged in, and look up the urls when home? |
| 17:09.55 | junocake | we're going to replace it soon, hoping I can convince my boss to put Debian on it |
| 17:09.55 | xoz | junocake: if not for linux, unix is still *expensive* |
| 17:10.00 | tarzeau | abrotman: you know gnu screen and /lastlog ? |
| 17:10.19 | junocake | xoz, agreed, our RH machines are a quarter of the cost of one of these sparcs, and 10x faster |
| 17:10.23 | jazbo | xoz: bsd? |
| 17:10.47 | shafiq_n | helllooooooooooo, anyone! Can u help me with Debian please?!! :( |
| 17:11.14 | tarzeau | i feel the weekend |
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| 17:11.39 | xoz | jazbo: bsd license cuts the idea of sharing (as an option) which MS and other Unix vendors used without returning back the mods they made. |
| 17:11.42 | izzy | hi |
| 17:11.49 | shafiq_n | *********** HELP PLZZZZZZZZZZZ ************* |
| 17:11.51 | izzy | hi |
| 17:11.54 | izzy | wot |
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| 17:11.59 | azeem | shafiq_n: don't spam the chan, please |
| 17:12.04 | izzy | kk |
| 17:12.07 | azeem | shafiq_n: state your problm |
| 17:12.10 | azeem | problem |
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| 17:12.14 | izzy | nop |
| 17:12.21 | izzy | no our problem |
| 17:12.23 | a1fa | how can you tell if the ethernet card is forced to 100MBIT FULL? |
| 17:12.27 | shafiq_n | yes, i'm on the black screen of debian |
| 17:12.32 | a1fa | dmesg | grep eth doesnt show it all the time |
| 17:12.33 | shafiq_n | how do i start using it? |
| 17:12.43 | shafiq_n | like, where's the graphic desktop? |
| 17:12.45 | azeem | shafiq_n: did you choose the desktop task during installation? |
| 17:12.47 | jazbo | xoz: true but I think it good that both options exist (i.e. GPL and BSD type licences) |
| 17:12.51 | a1fa | shafiq_n : did you install X? |
| 17:12.54 | shafiq_n | yes |
| 17:13.00 | a1fa | login and type |
| 17:13.02 | a1fa | startx |
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| 17:13.15 | shafiq_n | i'm logged in as root |
| 17:13.22 | xoz | jazbo: if BSD license only, UNIX will still be expensive and development will still be slow |
| 17:13.23 | a1fa | apt tell shafiq_n about root |
| 17:13.38 | shafiq_n | thanx, a1fa |
| 17:13.39 | azeem | shafiq_n: does startx do anything? |
| 17:13.51 | shafiq_n | let me check |
| 17:14.11 | a1fa | how do you check ethenret duplex settings? |
| 17:14.16 | shafiq_n | no, when i typel startx, it says command not found. |
| 17:14.24 | jazbo | xoz, I guess you mean that the applications would be expensive right? I'm not positive that I agree but maybe I do. hmmm... |
| 17:14.25 | a1fa | shafiq_n : you didnt install x |
| 17:14.28 | azeem | shafiq_n: type /etc/init.d/gdm start |
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| 17:14.36 | azeem | a1fa: he didn't install startx, for starters |
| 17:14.41 | multi_io | how can I prevent dpkg-buildpackage from calling dh_strip (thereby stripping all executables) when the build is complete? |
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| 17:15.03 | shafiq_n | i just got the cd1 of debian and installed that |
| 17:15.04 | a1fa | azeem : ya? |
| 17:15.08 | a1fa | how do you check ethenret duplex settings? |
| 17:15.10 | shafiq_n | i don't know where to install the x |
| 17:15.30 | loggygreg | multi_io: comment out 'dh_strip' in debian/rules |
| 17:15.30 | xoz | jazbo: yeah, just partly true. with the pressure of LINUX, UNIX variant becomes cheaper. competition is a *blessing*. |
| 17:15.34 | azeem | shafiq_n: did you type that? |
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| 17:15.49 | shafiq_n | azeem, yes i typed startx |
| 17:15.53 | azeem | 18:07 < azeem> shafiq_n: type /etc/init.d/gdm start |
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| 17:15.56 | shafiq_n | azeem, it say, no command found |
| 17:15.59 | shafiq_n | ok |
| 17:16.26 | xoz | maybe he needs to install x related files |
| 17:16.27 | Eulex | shafiq_n, well, have you install x-window-system? |
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| 17:16.40 | multi_io | loggygreg: :) |
| 17:16.43 | multi_io | thanks |
| 17:16.47 | a1fa | ok |
| 17:16.50 | azeem | Eulex: shafiq_n chose the desktop task |
| 17:16.51 | a1fa | everybody be quiet for a econd |
| 17:16.53 | shafiq_n | eulex, i don't know what is x-window-system |
| 17:16.53 | possie | when i try to grub-install /dev/mapper/disk1-root i'm getting the error that /dev/mapper/disk1-root does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. how can i fix this? |
| 17:16.57 | a1fa | everybody be quiet |
| 17:17.01 | a1fa | thank you |
| 17:17.01 | azeem | a1fa: eh? |
| 17:17.09 | quiet | . |
| 17:17.12 | a1fa | how do you check ethenret duplex settings? besides dmesg | grep eth |
| 17:17.13 | jazbo | xoz, the thing that would really bother me would be getting served with a DMCA notice for reverse engineering software that included free software... |
| 17:17.16 | shafiq_n | azeem, when i typed ur command it says "no suc"h file or directory |
| 17:17.24 | xoz | jazbo: that also |
| 17:17.26 | azeem | shafiq_n: ok, type tasksel |
| 17:17.31 | azeem | shafiq_n: and select the desktop task |
| 17:17.32 | shafiq_n | ok |
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| 17:18.42 | xoz | jazbo: greed is a very big problem in our society. you can feel it everywhere but FSF idea is a good reminder of the benefits of sharing. |
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| 17:19.37 | xoz | jazbo: similar to what we are doing here in #debian sharing knowledge and experience/expertise with *enthusiasm* :) |
| 17:19.49 | StyXman | how can I generate enthropy? I want to generate a certificate and ssl blocks reading from /dev/random |
| 17:20.15 | azeem | try to move the mouse around? |
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| 17:20.42 | jazbo | xoz, yeah seems like GPL is a way of fighting back against the greed (expressed by things like the DMCA). However I think ideally free software would be better. Free software wouldn't be so problematic if we couldn't get thrown in jail for decompiling propriety soft... |
| 17:21.08 | Coweater | a1fa: ethtool |
| 17:21.09 | jazbo | propriety --> proprietary |
| 17:21.19 | Eulex | StyXman, bang on your keyboarda bit. no, seriously, a good way of generating lots of entropy is to compile a kernel. or at least something big. or cause lots of io in some other way. |
| 17:21.36 | StyXman | Eulex: k |
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| 17:22.17 | shafiq_n | azeem, now i'm on that blue and green screen. what to do next to install those packages? |
| 17:22.26 | azeem | blue and green? |
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| 17:22.59 | shafiq_n | ok, i pressed "g" and it's downloading |
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| 17:23.14 | azeem | it dropped you into aptitude? |
| 17:23.18 | Sonny | how can I play dvd's in gxie? |
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| 17:23.19 | azeem | well, fine |
| 17:23.22 | Sonny | gxine? |
| 17:23.40 | shafiq_n | azeem, i don't know what's aptitude, but i'm sure it's doing something now |
| 17:23.48 | Red_Cloud | My distro is etch. During configuration of a download, I get the message: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! What do I need to do to correct this? |
| 17:23.54 | azeem | shafiq_n: ok, so far so good |
| 17:23.58 | tuv | Sonny, i found ogle the best player supporting dvd playback |
| 17:24.10 | xoz | jazbo: the irony is similar to paper publication. researchers published their research in journals but basically, the paper is not complete because seldom do the authors provide their raw data and complete methodology. the rationale is, why should i give my data for others to use and analyze? i spent my life getting these data... and so, the development slows down because there is not data sharing... because people think first of themselves before the *goodness |
| 17:24.11 | Sonny | tuv, which one? |
| 17:24.13 | azeem | Red_Cloud: first off, check whether it might not be in Debian already |
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| 17:24.30 | azeem | Red_Cloud: then, install build-esssential and whatever -dev library that program needs |
| 17:24.32 | tuv | Sonny, ogle player |
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| 17:24.49 | azeem | Red_Cloud: read its documentation to find out, or check config.log for the actual error |
| 17:24.59 | Eulex | Red_Cloud, you need the dev packages. apt-get install xlibs-dev |
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| 17:25.23 | azeem | !info xlibs-dev etch |
| 17:25.27 | stew | its gone |
| 17:25.34 | azeem | right |
| 17:25.41 | Red_Cloud | Eulex, thanks. |
| 17:25.46 | azeem | why doesn't dpkg say that in here? |
| 17:25.49 | azeem | 18:18 <dpkg> Package 'xlibs-dev' does not exist. |
| 17:25.56 | Eulex | hmm, it is? |
| 17:26.02 | stew | azeem: it will if you !+info xlibs-dev |
| 17:26.19 | azeem | ah |
| 17:26.28 | stew | azeem: the + tells it to be verbose in channel, which means that it also might spit out a "updating debian packages" unfortunately |
| 17:26.29 | jazbo | xoz, what is really sad is how much it costs to subscribe to a scientific journal. Many of them cost upwards of $20,000 USD per year for full access to the archives |
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| 17:27.05 | Coweater | they expect uni's to subscribe |
| 17:27.09 | azeem | jazbo: you might want to consider taking this conversation private |
| 17:27.12 | tuv | writing research papers has to be standardized |
| 17:27.14 | Eulex | stew & azeem, well, did some package replace xlibs-dev? |
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| 17:27.20 | azeem | Eulex: no, it's gone |
| 17:27.36 | azeem | one should use the indvidual X -dev packages now, like libx11-dev |
| 17:27.37 | stew | Eulex: it got split in preparation for the xorg modularization |
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| 17:27.54 | stew | Eulex: or libxinerama-dev etc |
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| 17:28.11 | Eulex | stew, hmm, ok |
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| 17:29.13 | xoz | jazbo: yeah. the sad thing is authors published their paper and the journal earns money... the authors do not receive any commission and the journal controls the distribution. one cannot even see the final paper even though he/she is the author because the subscription is very expensive. in my case, i have to ask my friend from another school to give me a copy of my paper because i cannot afford the price of my paper :). |
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| 17:30.14 | azeem | xoz: you still have the copyright to any preprints you might have forked before the final submission, AIUI |
| 17:30.23 | azeem | xoz: but really, this is slightly off-topic |
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| 17:30.37 | xoz | azeem: yep |
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| 17:32.03 | xoz | azeem: but there are now open access journal publication similar to linux but not so popular yet compared to commercialized ones. |
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| 17:33.16 | azeem | tarzeau: quick, http://jabba.pl/fEnIo/id/9120 |
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| 17:33.42 | FarrisG | So I'm on a mostly-sarge machine, and if I use nedit, I get a segfault. However, if I run nedit with LD_LIBRARY_PATH pointing to /usr/lib, it works. How do I fix this cleanly, globally so that all users can safely use nedit. Nevermind that I HATE nedit, my engineers want it :) |
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| 17:34.04 | azeem | FarrisG: did you install some libraries in /usr/local/lib? |
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| 17:34.19 | FarrisG | azeem: Nope |
| 17:34.28 | zinx | FarrisG: your system is so b0rked |
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| 17:34.49 | zinx | FarrisG: ldd nedit |
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| 17:34.56 | zinx | FarrisG: env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib ldd nedit |
| 17:35.07 | zinx | FarrisG: maybe you can figure it out from there |
| 17:35.28 | Eulex | FarrisG, gdb it? |
| 17:35.50 | quiet | where do you set the hostname for apache2 in etch? |
| 17:35.58 | quiet | apache2.conf? i don't see it anywhere. |
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| 17:36.33 | ifeanyi_ | hey guys I have sound card STAC 9200,I do not how to configure that and I am newbie |
| 17:36.48 | Eulex | !alsa one-liner |
| 17:36.48 | dpkg | hmm... alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 17:36.53 | Eulex | ifeanyi_, ^^ |
| 17:36.59 | WireDDD | where does x save its log by default |
| 17:37.13 | Coweater | /var/log with everything else |
| 17:37.14 | ifeanyi_ | hey Eulex |
| 17:37.37 | ifeanyi_ | I already tried using alsa |
| 17:37.53 | stew | ifeanyi_: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 17:37.54 | ifeanyi_ | mabe am doing wrong |
| 17:38.12 | xoz | quiet: sites-enabled? |
| 17:38.24 | Eulex | ifeanyi_, well, it's pretty hard for us to guess what you did wrong. maybe you'd bother to tell us what didn't work? |
| 17:38.34 | ifeanyi_ | 2.6.10.181004 |
| 17:38.40 | Eulex | !ubuntu |
| 17:38.40 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
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| 17:38.46 | ifeanyi_ | yes |
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| 17:39.47 | Drakoooo | ey, anybody uses java? |
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| 17:39.59 | quiet | xoz, i don't know... here's the deal... just installed drupal.. and when i click on the link to register the initial username.. it redirects to: http://localhost/drupal/?q=user/register |
| 17:40.01 | moshii | Drakoooo: yeah, someone does |
| 17:40.01 | AlienX | Drakoooo, lots of people do :) |
| 17:40.12 | jazbo | Wow, I just learned that dpkg actually learns how to answer questions automatically; cool! |
| 17:40.15 | Eulex | Drakoooo, no, nobody uses java, not even the ones who use it |
| 17:40.16 | ifeanyi_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:40.20 | Drakoooo | AlienX: well, programing in java :p |
| 17:40.38 | stew | ifeanyi_: maybe you forgot to compile in the right alsa drivers. have you tried a debian compiled kernel? |
| 17:40.43 | Drakoooo | well, i need know something about java annotations |
| 17:40.48 | xoz | quiet: drupal adds its own virtual site i think in sites-enable dir |
| 17:40.54 | moshii | Drakoooo: #java |
| 17:40.55 | ifeanyi_ | no |
| 17:41.00 | Drakoooo | it's possible add annotation inside a method |
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| 17:41.10 | notnow | hello |
| 17:41.12 | ifeanyi_ | how do I do that |
| 17:41.13 | quiet | xoz, nope, it just adds a config to config.d/drupal.conf |
| 17:41.22 | Drakoooo | moshii: requiere registration, and i dont know where i need to go for registration |
| 17:41.32 | Drakoooo | it's possible add annotation inside a method?? |
| 17:41.40 | xoz | quiet: is it a virtual site or just a redirection. |
| 17:41.42 | moshii | Drakoooo: /msg nickserv help .. I think |
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| 17:41.52 | Eulex | ifeanyi_, you're on ubuntu right? |
| 17:41.57 | quiet | redirection... /drupal to /usr/share/drupal |
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| 17:42.05 | Scognito | hello |
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| 17:42.17 | notnow | I have two nics on two different networks, both configured by dhcp. I need to give a different metric to the default gw of one of the nics but I see that the metric parameter is only of static addresses |
| 17:42.26 | Eulex | ifeanyi_, or where did you get that kernel from? |
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| 17:42.47 | notnow | I looked at the dhclient.conf man page but it doesn't tell anything on metric |
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| 17:43.01 | quiet | xoz, everyone keeps telling me to check sites/default/settings.php in the drupal directory.. but whatever the debian package maintainer did, doesn't include that.. |
| 17:43.04 | xoz | quiet: ok. so you must ensure that php4 is enabled so that the php scripts are properly parsed before rendering it. |
| 17:43.08 | Scognito | i get this error each time i run any graphic application: ""Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file" how can i get rid of it?' |
| 17:43.08 | ifeanyi_ | oh i think is debian |
| 17:43.12 | quiet | xoz, it is.. |
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| 17:43.20 | quiet | xoz, phpinfo page is fine. |
| 17:43.45 | xoz | quiet: drupal seems to be easy to configure. are you using mysql or postgresql? |
| 17:43.51 | quiet | mysql |
| 17:43.58 | quiet | 5 |
| 17:44.06 | ekkikrist | hehe |
| 17:44.07 | xoz | quiet: tables are properly generated? |
| 17:44.10 | ekkikrist | mysql BETA |
| 17:44.10 | strider | Scognito: try dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig |
| 17:44.13 | quiet | xoz, i assume so. |
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| 17:44.22 | quiet | whatever the drupal config did. |
| 17:44.36 | xoz | quiet: no error during mysql table creation? |
| 17:44.40 | quiet | no. |
| 17:44.40 | Scognito | strider, i made it |
| 17:44.42 | Scognito | same thing |
| 17:44.52 | xoz | quiet: what about during register? |
| 17:44.57 | ifeanyi_ | so what do you suggest eulex |
| 17:44.57 | CptnObvious | Umm, I'm trying to get the nvidia drivers installed according to what dpkg said. Unfourtinately the 2.6.15 kernel doesn't have any kernel-headers to go with it |
| 17:45.01 | quiet | register? |
| 17:45.05 | quiet | the first username? |
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| 17:45.20 | xoz | quiet: make sure all files in drupal dir are owned by www-data |
| 17:45.27 | xoz | quiet: yep |
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| 17:45.39 | any | HI |
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| 17:45.42 | quiet | xoz that's what i can't do.. because clicking the link goes to http://localhost/drupal/?q=user/register |
| 17:45.45 | moshii | CptnObvious: really? |
| 17:45.46 | quiet | and i'm not on the localhost. |
| 17:46.00 | moshii | CptnObvious: use modules-assistant's prepare thingy |
| 17:46.09 | xoz | quiet: ah, you should configure drupal to use FQDN. |
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| 17:46.16 | CptnObvious | Yes module-assistant |
| 17:46.24 | Eulex | ifeanyi_, get a real kernel. apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686. if you're unsure what distro you're on, take a look in /etc/debian_version and also tell us what dpkg -l libc6|tail -1 prints |
| 17:46.24 | quiet | xoz, exactly... but how.. the settings.php file is nowhere to be found. |
| 17:46.26 | CptnObvious | m-a prepare is the step I'm on. |
| 17:46.44 | roler | I have a p4 3.0gig HyperThreading laptop. In the kernel config it has this option: "SMT (Hyperthreading) scheduler support" which is specifically for hyperthreading cpus but it says some parts of the system could be slower. Should I enable it? |
| 17:46.46 | CptnObvious | In Mandriva, you needed the kernel-source to match specifically for your kernel before building the nvidia drivers. |
| 17:47.02 | CptnObvious | I'm assuming the kernel-headers is the same thing. |
| 17:47.03 | xoz | quiet: you can go to /usr/share/drupal/ and look for the config related to hostname... use grep -iR hostname * in the dir. |
| 17:47.06 | moshii | CptnObvious: you only need the headers for the kernel you're running |
| 17:47.14 | CptnObvious | paul@upstairs:~$ uname -r |
| 17:47.14 | CptnObvious | 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 17:47.32 | any | I have control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz and debian-binary in a directory. If I do ar r mypackage.deb, dpkg says that it is not a debian binary archive. |
| 17:47.36 | moshii | CptnObvious: install the 2.6.15-1-686 linux-headers package |
| 17:47.46 | nanok | CptnObvious: headers and source are not the same thing |
| 17:47.51 | xoz | quiet: either in that dir or in the /etc fir |
| 17:47.52 | CptnObvious | Oh. |
| 17:47.57 | moshii | CptnObvious: module-assistant should do it for you if you do prepare |
| 17:48.02 | Scognito | i also reconfigured fontconfig-config |
| 17:48.03 | nanok | CptnObvious: FYI |
| 17:48.14 | stew | any: i belive the order that control and data appear in the .deb matters |
| 17:48.16 | CptnObvious | Got it. |
| 17:48.16 | moshii | nanok: but either can be used with module-assistant :) |
| 17:48.20 | Scognito | i don't have font.config file |
| 17:48.23 | stew | any: try reversing them |
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| 17:49.09 | nanok | moshii: yes, ofc. it was just for the man to get things straight, he should, evntually |
| 17:49.24 | xoz | quiet: there are about 5 critical but subtle steps and if you missed one step, you'll have problem. i think the FQDN is asked in one of those steps. retrace your steps. |
| 17:49.50 | strider | Scognito: wierd. ran fc-cache? |
| 17:49.53 | nicolas_1 | since im young im wondering whats so wonderful about emacs? |
| 17:49.59 | nicolas_1 | who uses that? |
| 17:50.01 | quiet | xoz, the only thing it asks is the database host. for that i used it's fqdn |
| 17:50.09 | moshii | nicolas_1: a guy called dave |
| 17:50.09 | any | stew: thank you ;) |
| 17:50.12 | Scognito | strider, yes |
| 17:50.15 | Scognito | same thing |
| 17:50.15 | stew | any: that worked? |
| 17:50.25 | xoz | quiet: your problem is common. google for drupal localhost problem |
| 17:50.27 | Scognito | i think i tried almost all things possible |
| 17:50.28 | nicolas_1 | hehe |
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| 17:50.44 | CptnObvious | Hmm, now I've foudn another problem. |
| 17:50.48 | any | stew: yes, it was in the wrong order. |
| 17:50.55 | CptnObvious | I have a linux-source 2.6.15-7 and my kernel is 2.6.15-1 |
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| 17:51.34 | CptnObvious | Should I upgrade my kernel to the -7? |
| 17:51.42 | moshii | CptnObvious: upgrade your kernel then .. |
| 17:51.42 | xoz | quiet: like this one: http://drupal.org/node/51770 |
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| 17:51.51 | Eulex | CptnObvious, no, upgrade both to -8. |
| 17:52.03 | moshii | CptnObvious: you should use the dummy packages anyhow |
| 17:52.14 | quiet | xoz, i found it... in /etc/drupal/conf.php |
| 17:52.20 | quiet | xoz, thanks man. |
| 17:52.25 | quiet | time for lunch now. |
| 17:52.35 | rrdf | is the consol normally in a different refresh mode than X ? |
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| 17:53.06 | CptnObvious | E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.15-8-686 |
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| 17:53.07 | adna | Why is Debian 3 default win manager gnome?!? |
| 17:53.08 | CptnObvious | :| |
| 17:53.21 | xoz | quiet: yep. i like drupal. very simple but powerful. |
| 17:53.30 | CptnObvious | moshii: Which dummy packages? |
| 17:53.31 | jetscreamer | adna: change it |
| 17:53.31 | adna | To switch to KDE do I just edit .xinitrc? |
| 17:53.32 | xoz | quiet: plone is also good. |
| 17:53.36 | Eulex | CptnObvious, no, not package name revisions. package versions apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 17:53.40 | moshii | CptnObvious: linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 17:53.41 | jetscreamer | adna: apt-get install kdm |
| 17:53.53 | moshii | CptnObvious: linux-headers-2.6-686 |
| 17:53.54 | Eulex | adna, gnome is not a window manager |
| 17:53.54 | adna | Already installed KDE. |
| 17:54.06 | jetscreamer | dpkg-reconfigure dmm |
| 17:54.11 | jetscreamer | dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 17:54.14 | adna | Right. Is there an easy way to switch? |
| 17:54.19 | jetscreamer | and i said install kdm not kde |
| 17:54.29 | moshii | CptnObvious: that way your system will install the latest 2.6 kernel for your arch automagically |
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| 17:54.31 | jetscreamer | or dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 17:54.36 | jetscreamer | choose kdm |
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| 17:54.48 | adna | Thanks. |
| 17:54.53 | CptnObvious | Ok moshii that's installing -7 |
| 17:54.56 | rrdf | is there a keyboard hotkey for entering consol safe mode?? or a way to quit X ? |
| 17:55.10 | jetscreamer | np. adna, check the session the 1st login |
| 17:55.19 | jetscreamer | make sure it's the one you want |
| 17:55.23 | moshii | rrdf: control alt backspace restarts x |
| 17:55.36 | CptnObvious | Now to reboot *sigh* |
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| 17:55.42 | rrdf | problem: refresh rate wrong. want to stop X not restart.. |
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| 17:55.55 | jetscreamer | /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 17:55.56 | moshii | rrdf: if you want to go to a console use ctrl alt F1 F2 etc |
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| 17:56.16 | rrdf | I know.. but I have the same refresh rate problem in the consol |
| 17:56.16 | GodpoT | hey... im having some weird problems with a debian etch... can someone help me? |
| 17:56.26 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 17:56.27 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 17:56.59 | moshii | rrdf: what's wrong with you're refresh rate? |
| 17:57.06 | adna | exit |
| 17:57.14 | moshii | rrdf: s/you're/your/ |
| 17:57.17 | rrdf | refresh rate over screen limit.. cant see a thing |
| 17:57.32 | moshii | rrdf: ah, have you changed the video mode for the framebuffer? |
| 17:58.00 | GodpoT | when i try to install courier-(services like pop, auth, etc) it says that the package was installed, and when im going to /etc/courier everything is empty... |
| 17:58.00 | rrdf | no.. just instsalled X and started it one time.. since then debian boots into X at reboot... |
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| 17:58.06 | Scognito | strider, any other hint? |
| 17:58.13 | jetscreamer | /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 17:58.16 | jetscreamer | rrdf |
| 17:58.19 | jetscreamer | !nodm |
| 17:58.19 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
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| 17:58.41 | jetscreamer | but the remove the package just for one or two times of not using it is kinda goofy imo |
| 17:58.53 | rrdf | I cannot see anything on my screen.. ;( |
| 17:59.07 | jetscreamer | backup & edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 17:59.15 | jetscreamer | ctrl+alt+f2 |
| 17:59.21 | strider | Scognito: not too familiar with it.I've fixed it with a reconfigure before. |
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| 17:59.32 | jetscreamer | or f1 |
| 17:59.33 | Scognito | so you had same problem |
| 17:59.37 | jetscreamer | or 3,4,5,6 |
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| 17:59.51 | Scognito | do you have $FONTsomething ? |
| 17:59.58 | Scognito | as variable |
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| 18:00.02 | strider | Scognito: it's been a long time. |
| 18:00.14 | rrdf | stopping X will turn the refresh rates to safe? |
| 18:00.36 | moshii | rrdf: the console and X are unrelated most of the time |
| 18:00.39 | jetscreamer | well yesh but it's different |
| 18:00.42 | jetscreamer | what he said |
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| 18:01.20 | jetscreamer | after you're in console rrdf apt-get install read-edid mdetect hwinfo then hwinfo --monitor |
| 18:01.23 | xoz | why is it that if you install a package like apache, the system automatically assumes that you gonna run it on boot. the default should be to install it and leave it not running unless enabled explicitly. installing it does not mean enabling it, right? |
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| 18:01.51 | moshii | xoz: some packages do that, radvd does |
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| 18:02.07 | jetscreamer | because if you didn't want to run it you wouldn't have installed it? |
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| 18:02.22 | xoz | this is a problem during upgrade because even if they are not enabled, they will be active after upgrade. it should not be the case. |
| 18:02.27 | Scognito | ok |
| 18:02.34 | Daedalus_ | xoz: probably because when many people install apache, they want it running. If it was the other way around, we'd have the other set of people grumbling. *shrugs* |
| 18:02.36 | Scognito | i did a strace in an X app |
| 18:02.49 | Scognito | and i got ""Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file"" |
| 18:02.50 | Daedalus_ | xoz: ooh. suck |
| 18:02.57 | rrdf | do you think I can enter that stuff without seeing it? jetstreaner? is there no way to boot into rescue mode and edit xorg.conf? |
| 18:02.58 | Scognito | sorry |
| 18:02.58 | nanok | i agree. on upgrades and such, that sucks |
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| 18:03.07 | Scognito | i got "access("/etc/fonts/fonts.conf", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 18:03.07 | Scognito | " |
| 18:03.09 | xoz | this should be part of the policy i think. upgrading should not automatically enabling init.d progs. |
| 18:03.14 | moshii | rrdf: are you using grub? |
| 18:03.21 | Scognito | so i need the package who provides that file |
| 18:03.23 | GodpoT | when i try to install courier-(services like pop, auth, etc) it says that the package was installed, and when im going to /etc/courier everything is empty... what could be happening? |
| 18:03.30 | rrdf | I`m using silo boot |
| 18:03.39 | moshii | rrdf: oh, it's a sparc? |
| 18:03.48 | rrdf | sun blade 100 machine, exactly moshii |
| 18:03.48 | xoz | i always end up hunting for those unwanted progs that you want to be installed but not active. |
| 18:03.49 | moshii | rrdf: I wouldn't bother with linux then.. slow |
| 18:03.49 | angus | hello. question: how do I download and reinstall all the installed packages? |
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| 18:04.04 | nonix4 | xoz: join the club :-/ |
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| 18:04.13 | shibby | howdyho |
| 18:04.18 | CptnObvious | Hmm. |
| 18:04.32 | CptnObvious | Package nvidia-kernel-source is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source |
| 18:04.33 | CptnObvious | E: Package nvidia-kernel-source has no installation candidate |
| 18:04.38 | abrotman | tarzeau: that wouldn't be nice |
| 18:04.42 | moshii | rrdf: hook up a serial cable to it |
| 18:04.43 | xoz | i think many of us do this stuff. program suddenly runs in init.d without your permission. |
| 18:04.47 | abrotman | tarzeau: /msg memoserv help :) |
| 18:04.54 | jetscreamer | !reinstall |
| 18:04.55 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 18:05.06 | rrdf | so any idea booting without X on Silo boot loader? |
| 18:05.25 | angus | thank you, jetscreamer (and dpkg :) |
| 18:05.25 | dpkg | angus: pas de quoi |
| 18:05.25 | CptnObvious | 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 18:05.25 | CptnObvious | linux-source-2 2.6.15-7bpo1 Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with |
| 18:05.29 | shibby | im having problems getting pass through for dvd playback to work with neither xine nor mplayer (digital output works perfectly) using sb live can someone help pls? |
| 18:05.31 | moshii | rrdf: you could try passing init=1 |
| 18:05.40 | jetscreamer | the first is to reinstall in your running system, the second is more like from a blank slate |
| 18:05.42 | rrdf | aha, how? ;) |
| 18:05.52 | azeem | rrdf: read the silo manual |
| 18:05.56 | angus | ok |
| 18:05.56 | CptnObvious | It doesn't seem to be finding the right kernel source when I do a m-a auto-install nvidia |
| 18:06.01 | moshii | rrdf: I can't remember how silo works though.. Linux was slow as poo on my sparc |
| 18:06.08 | xoz | the upgrade should at least preserve the old behaviour. |
| 18:06.12 | rrdf | not again.. I read it.. nothing on X there what I found |
| 18:06.17 | GodpoT | i think noone is reading my question :[ |
| 18:06.22 | azeem | rrdf: read on how to select runlevels |
| 18:06.27 | strider | Scognito: that's provided by fontconfig-config |
| 18:06.32 | azeem | you want to boot into runlevel 1, not 2 (which is default) |
| 18:06.55 | rrdf | moshii. which kernel did you use? I have a Ultrasparc IIe 500Mhz 64bit and 2.6 Kernel debian running aleady |
| 18:06.58 | xoz | GodpoT: read /usr/share/doc/courier... |
| 18:07.13 | nonix4 | GodpoT: maybe nobody uses those services? |
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| 18:07.41 | GodpoT | but its not a configuration problem, the problem its that it says that debian installed them but he didn't at all |
| 18:07.45 | moshii | rrdf: mine is a 32bit machine, I can't remember 64bit sparcs being that much better though. Um this was 2.4 I think |
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| 18:08.12 | shibby | does someone here use a sb live with external dts decoder? (pass through spdif) |
| 18:08.16 | rrdf | I tried 2.4 also.. but not running as good as 2.6 as far as I can say.. |
| 18:08.21 | Scognito | strider, i'm becoming crazy |
| 18:08.22 | Coweater | the 32 bit machines are downright slow |
| 18:08.37 | moshii | rrdf: netbsd is a good bit faster, and support for Sun hardware like framebuffers etc seems to be better |
| 18:08.52 | rrdf | yeah, but sound on netbsd? |
| 18:09.02 | rrdf | vlc for netbsd?? |
| 18:09.04 | xoz | GodpoT: dpkg -L courier.. |
| 18:09.04 | Scognito | i did dpkg-deb -c /var/cache/apt/archives/fontconfig-config_2.3.2-5_all.deb |
| 18:09.15 | moshii | rrdf: sound with every chipset but the one in mine I think heh |
| 18:09.16 | strider | Scognito: sid? and did it happen after an update? It seems to be pretty common an error acc to Google |
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| 18:09.38 | Scognito | and it has: -rw-r--r-- root/root 12884 2006-03-09 20:41:24 ./etc/fonts/fonts.conf |
| 18:09.47 | Scognito | i've sid, installed few days ago |
| 18:09.56 | Scognito | only yesterday i noticed this thing |
| 18:10.01 | Scognito | btw i've installed that deb |
| 18:10.16 | Scognito | but still the file is not in etc!!! |
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| 18:11.01 | rrdf | as I see it.. reinstalling debian would be the most uncomplicated way..and reinstalling x and this time I`ll edit xorg.conf first |
| 18:11.08 | cahoot | Scognito: the extra dot is a typo? |
| 18:11.09 | strider | Scognito: ENOENt afaik is when the file can't be found. So you don't have a /etc/fonts/fonts.conf? |
| 18:11.10 | azeem | rrdf: dude |
| 18:11.16 | azeem | rrdf: did you check on the runlevel stuff? |
| 18:11.26 | strider | Scognito: nm, try doing a --force-confmiss |
| 18:11.27 | koczkodan | hi there! i'm getting the following output after typing 'sensors' command: +2.5V: +0.06 V (min = +2.37 V, max = +2.62 V) ALARM Do I have to worry about that "ALARM"? |
| 18:11.29 | moshii | rrdf: or boot into run level 1 and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 18:11.29 | StyXman | Eulex: still no fun. I compiled a whole default kdenel 2.6.12. any other ideas? |
| 18:11.34 | azeem | I can't believe silo is unable to boot into runlevel 1 |
| 18:11.42 | moshii | rrdf: or use a serial console to login and do it |
| 18:11.44 | rrdf | man, I`m a newbie.. how can I set or do anything at boot with runtime? |
| 18:11.48 | nvz | damn I am picking up my pants to wash em, and hoping to find money.. but so far 6 pairs later no money, found drugs 3 times |
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| 18:11.51 | rrdf | runlevel |
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| 18:11.57 | Eulex | StyXman, sorry, I don't remember your problem |
| 18:12.00 | azeem | rrdf: tell silo to boot into runlevel 1 |
| 18:12.02 | moshii | rrdf: can you stop the machine at the openfirm'y bit |
| 18:12.11 | abrotman | stop-a |
| 18:12.15 | moshii | rrdf: openfirmware |
| 18:12.30 | rrdf | I can enter "boot disk" at Openboot, then boot: "enter" |
| 18:12.38 | Scognito | WHOA! |
| 18:12.45 | Scognito | it works wit --force-confmiss !!!! |
| 18:12.51 | Scognito | thank you! |
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| 18:13.02 | case__ | hi there. i'm looking for the best place to put my firewall script, where it will be launched _only_1_time_ at startup, and juste before the ifup -a ... any advices ? (thx) [ if-pre-up.d dones't match (all) my requierments... ] |
| 18:13.02 | Scognito | why then the conf is not installed by default? |
| 18:13.10 | stew | Scognito: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 18:13.11 | strider | Scognito: np ;) |
| 18:13.12 | rrdf | what command on silo is booting runlevel 1? |
| 18:13.20 | moshii | rrdf: I'm just finding it |
| 18:13.27 | Scognito | ok |
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| 18:13.28 | multi_io | is anybody using aptitude at all??? |
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| 18:13.29 | rrdf | THANKSSS!! ;) |
| 18:13.30 | Scognito | tnx again! |
| 18:13.34 | rrdf | MOSHII |
| 18:13.50 | beardy | rrdf: silo? |
| 18:13.56 | rrdf | yeah |
| 18:13.57 | multi_io | aptitude *always* segfaults here when I try to install packages |
| 18:13.58 | AM|R | how can i install gcc a complete compiler? |
| 18:14.01 | Daedalus_ | case__: use update-rc.d to add your script to the init scripts |
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| 18:14.08 | StyXman | Eulex: can't generate a certificate for apache because I'm out of entropy for /dev/random |
| 18:14.12 | azeem | AM|R: apt-get install build-essential |
| 18:14.29 | Eulex | StyXman, heh. I dunno then. |
| 18:14.31 | moshii | rrdf: ah don't do init=1 one.. been messing with init too much recently |
| 18:14.33 | moshii | rrdf: |
| 18:14.40 | moshii | rrdf: http://www.sparc-boot.org/usingsilo.html |
| 18:14.43 | Shadowcat | StyXman: well start typing random letters then |
| 18:14.46 | Shadowcat | and generate entropy |
| 18:14.47 | beardy | multi_io: You can't be running sarge. What are you running? |
| 18:14.59 | moshii | rrdf: I think you basically need the kernel to boot and then put init 1 at the end |
| 18:15.10 | Eulex | StyXman, though maybe you could make it use /dev/urandom instead. but that sacrifices a little security. |
| 18:15.12 | beardy | rrdf: What is silo? |
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| 18:15.28 | moshii | rrdf: silo is the sparc version of lilo |
| 18:15.28 | azeem | beardy: a boot loader |
| 18:15.33 | mmiikkee12 | does a linksys nc100 work in debian? |
| 18:15.38 | Eulex | !silo |
| 18:15.38 | dpkg | i guess silo is the Sparc Improved Linux LOader. It is designed to boot GNU/Linux on Sun Sparc hardware. |
| 18:15.48 | AM|R | why |
| 18:15.50 | AM|R | openssl/ssl.h: No such file or directory |
| 18:15.55 | rrdf | yeah I read this stuff.. and I`m a newbie.. I try to boot silo with no X because refresh rates are too high also in consol to beardy |
| 18:15.56 | Shadowcat | heh silo |
| 18:15.56 | beardy | azeem: Yeah, that much I figured. |
| 18:16.00 | beardy | Eulex: Ok |
| 18:16.14 | beardy | moshii: Thanks |
| 18:16.21 | Eulex | AM|R, get the dev package for openssl. |
| 18:16.24 | azeem | AM|R: you need the ssl development library |
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| 18:16.31 | Daedalus_ | AM|R: install openssl-dev? or some variant thereof? |
| 18:16.44 | beardy | rrdf: "<kernelname> single" should do it, if it behaves like lilo |
| 18:16.49 | abrotman | !tell AM|R about search |
| 18:16.55 | AM|R | ermm |
| 18:17.05 | abrotman | !find openssl/ssl.h sarge |
| 18:17.14 | StyXman | Shadowcat: can't reach, only ssh |
| 18:17.14 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'openssl/ssl.h' (1): (/usr/include/openssl/ssl.h) in libdevel/libssl-dev. |
| 18:17.20 | AM|R | ok |
| 18:17.39 | StyXman | Eulex: I don;t know how to tell openssl to use /dev/urandom |
| 18:17.44 | moshii | rrdf: you should really get a null-modem cable or a pda that can act as a vt100 terminal if you're running a sparc :) |
| 18:17.47 | Eulex | StyXman, neither do I. |
| 18:18.01 | StyXman | I made a cat of all the files in the server and it worked |
| 18:18.04 | case__ | Daedalus_, hum... will it work if i put it immediately before networking? or does iptables need some sort of iface configuration to work ? |
| 18:18.06 | beardy | rrdf: I'm not familiar with sparcs, can they be told to have vga=ask, in your silo config? |
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| 18:18.20 | multi_io | beardy: testing (is that the same as sarge?) |
| 18:18.34 | rrdf | but what linux kernel name do I enter?? linux wont work, linux single wont work |
| 18:18.50 | Daedalus_ | case__: It should work if you put it before networking. |
| 18:18.51 | beardy | multi_io: No, the current testing is called etch. Sarge is the current stable version of Debian. |
| 18:18.59 | xoz | rrdf: use tab key for the list |
| 18:19.01 | priscila | rrdf: you need use a rescue disk |
| 18:19.11 | beardy | rrdf: what xoz said |
| 18:19.17 | stew | rrdf: linux init=/bin/sh |
| 18:19.23 | StyXman | either openssl needs *lots* of random numbers or /dev/random is really difficult to fill |
| 18:19.24 | case__ | Daedalus_, thanks a lot |
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| 18:20.17 | rrdf | oh it "Linux" not "linux" thanks a looottttt.. lets see if refresh rate is okai |
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| 18:21.13 | beardy | Does sparcs have text console, or only framebuffer? |
| 18:21.16 | shafiq_n | azeem: after installing the desktop and everything else i run "startx", but i got an error screen saying "fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests "..... and then i'm back in the black screen with shafiq# |
| 18:21.21 | abrotman | there's a whole sparc channel |
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| 18:21.46 | moshii | beardy: sparcs have a framebuffer console and a serial console on the first serial port |
| 18:21.51 | azeem | shafiq_n: paste the content of /var/lib/XFree86.0.log to a pastebin |
| 18:21.53 | azeem | !paster |
| 18:21.53 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 18:22.10 | beardy | moshii: Ok |
| 18:22.18 | roler | I'm configuring my laptop (desktop) kernel again... I'm stuck on what to chose for "Preemption Model"... There is 'No Forced Preemption (server)', 'Voluntary Kernel Preemption (desktop)', and 'Premptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop)' |
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| 18:22.24 | roler | what one is best overall for a desktop? |
| 18:22.36 | Daedalus_ | roler: the last one |
| 18:22.42 | nse | hello everybody! Is there a way to print just some lines of a file? I mean, I want to print to output the lines 30-40 . what to do? |
| 18:22.47 | beardy | moshii: And the serial console is always "active", at another level than kernel level? So you get output as soon as it boots? |
| 18:22.59 | priscila | nevyn: you can use sed to do it |
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| 18:23.12 | moshii | beardy: I think some sparcs only have it if there is no keyboard .. but mine is active from power on |
| 18:23.31 | roler | Daedalus_; thanks. do you know if the SMT (Hyperthreading) scheduler support should be on? I have a p4-3.0GT HT System |
| 18:23.32 | moshii | beardy: all the Prom output is dumped out there, very handy |
| 18:23.32 | shafiq_n | azeem: this will be the command.... !paster /var/lib/XFree86.0.log /pastebin? |
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| 18:24.10 | beardy | moshii: I see, yes, sounds handy. |
| 18:24.12 | Daedalus_ | roler: It's not going to break anything if it's not on. You may get a speedup if it is on. |
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| 18:24.39 | moshii | beardy: my machine has no monitor, no keyboard, no floppy and no cdrom .. the serial console was the only way to install it ;) |
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| 18:24.48 | nvz | SMT? is that a legit acronym? |
| 18:24.58 | azeem | shafiq_n: no |
| 18:25.03 | Ronin | nvz: yep local bus line here :) |
| 18:25.07 | azeem | shafiq_n: let's do it otherwise |
| 18:25.14 | amee2k | i did as root 'cd; modprobe loop; dd if=/dev/zero of=hdimage bs=1M count=10; losetup /dev/loop0 hdimage; mkfs -t ext2 /dev/loop0' but mkfs reports 'mkfs.ext2: Drive size reported to be zero' and exits. any hints what I am doing wrong? |
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| 18:25.17 | nvz | how many TLAs do you need to describe virtually the same basic technology |
| 18:25.19 | roler | Daedalus_; from what i've read on it, its like the newest method of dealing with SMP.. But it mentions '...slightly increased overhead in some places' |
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| 18:25.24 | azeem | shafiq_n: run nano /var/lib/XFree86.0.log |
| 18:25.32 | Daedalus_ | nvz: simultaneous multi threading |
| 18:25.32 | stew | nse: sed -n '30,40p' |
| 18:25.33 | azeem | shafiq_n: then hit ctrl+w and type EE |
| 18:25.40 | roler | Daedalus_; I don't know if any of my applications are using SMP, so it's tough |
| 18:25.42 | priscila | nse: sed 'l1,l2;!d' were lines between l1 e l2 |
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| 18:25.59 | nvz | Daedalus_: hows that differ from Symmetric Multi-Processing? |
| 18:26.07 | moshii | roler: smt is multiple execution units opposed to multiple processors isn't it? |
| 18:26.32 | shafiq_n | azeem: ok thanx. hold on i'll run ur above instructions. |
| 18:26.39 | junocake | are there any alternatives to VNC (besides freenx) that allows you to keep a shared session open even after you disconnect? |
| 18:26.50 | Daedalus_ | roler: it's not a application decision. If there are multiple jobs, they will be split across different functional units. SMT allows different threads within a process to be run concurrently on different executiuon units |
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| 18:26.59 | roler | moshii; the desc in the kernel says: "SMT scheduler support improves the CPU scheduler's decision making when dealing with Intel Pentium 4 chips with HyperThreading at a cost of slightly increased overhead in some places.' |
| 18:27.08 | beardy | moshii: Must have taken some time? :) |
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| 18:27.26 | roler | Daedalus_; wow, so it seems like a good thing. Thanks! |
| 18:27.31 | Daedalus_ | nvz: SMP tends to require that the jobs run on different processors be from completely different processes |
| 18:27.44 | shafiq_n | azeem: it says "EE not found" |
| 18:27.45 | moshii | beardy: not really, a sparc can do tftp from firmware, so it was just a case of setting up a tftp server and booting the sparc from it |
| 18:27.49 | azeem | shafiq_n: ok |
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| 18:28.25 | azeem | shafiq_n: hrm |
| 18:28.30 | nvz | Daedalus_: seems like 6 in one half a dozen in the other to me.. where one lacks the other one may make up for it.. but they both have important enhancements as well as setbacks |
| 18:28.40 | moshii | roler: I see, you probably want SMT then |
| 18:28.48 | nvz | seems to me like we need to work on hybrid technology using both concepts :P |
| 18:28.59 | beardy | moshii: Oh, I thought you meant you transferred the data over serial aswell. |
| 18:29.01 | azeem | shafiq_n: hit ctrl+q, are you back at the prompt? |
| 18:29.08 | Daedalus_ | nvz: also, you can have a smt processor that's not dual core. THe processor can kedep track of the multiple threads that are passing through it and execute them simultaneously. Fun architecture stuff allows it. |
| 18:29.16 | eeyore- | my new sparc has funky console port. it's rj45 socket, custom cable |
| 18:29.24 | moshii | beardy: I could have, but with a 10mbit nic built into the machine that'd be insane |
| 18:29.36 | beardy | moshii: Yeah. |
| 18:29.36 | eeyore- | actually, the "custom cable" appears to be cat5, just has custom adaptor at the end |
| 18:29.36 | Daedalus_ | nvz: yup. Main drawback is that keeping track of that sort of stufff takes a lot of power. --> hot chips |
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| 18:30.00 | shafiq_n | azeem : i hit hrm nothing happenned. i hit Ctrl+w then hrm still nothing happenned. and no i'm not back at command prompt |
| 18:30.01 | nvz | Daedalus_: is it a whole new arch or just an added scheduling unit that simulates simultanious execution? |
| 18:30.09 | eeyore- | so it goes rj45 (console port) <-> cat-5 ethernet cable <-> dongle <-> pc serial port |
| 18:30.13 | azeem | shafiq_n: ctrl+q I said |
| 18:30.24 | azeem | shafiq_n: ah, ctrl+x, sorry |
| 18:30.56 | roler | Daedalus_; i'm not too worried about hot chips, I have my system setup with cpufreq and it rocks |
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| 18:31.16 | Daedalus_ | nvz: probably mostly a scheduler, but there would have to be some pipeline adjustments to keep the threads from being dependent on each other. It really would be a big change |
| 18:31.18 | shafiq_n | azeem: ctrl + x says "Answering NO will destroy Changes" , what do i hit? |
| 18:31.23 | azeem | no |
| 18:31.27 | azeem | or n |
| 18:31.30 | nvz | Daedalus_: not to mention the other things like inturrupt handling, memory addressing..etc these things cant happen simultaniously on a uni processor.. so it could be e3xecuting 10 threads at once, but an interrupt or memory access comes up and only one can be handled |
| 18:31.32 | Daedalus_ | roler: oh, yeah, you're fine. I was more talking from a chip design point of view. |
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| 18:31.44 | shafiq_n | azeem: i'm back at the prompt |
| 18:31.56 | azeem | shafiq_n: type "grep ^.EE /var/log/XFree86.0.log" |
| 18:31.58 | Daedalus_ | nvz: bingo |
| 18:31.59 | azeem | any output? |
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| 18:33.28 | vira | daedalus: AI? |
| 18:33.28 | rrdf | hmm, I changed xorg.conf... with correct refresh rates and also tried framebuffer off.. but still out of sync the screen |
| 18:33.28 | nvz | roler: the important advancement is the availability of source. |
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| 18:33.29 | roler | ya |
| 18:33.32 | rrdf | how can I set default refresh rate@1024x768 75hz? |
| 18:33.36 | Daedalus_ | vira: hrmm? |
| 18:33.44 | shafiq_n | azeem: how can i type the character " reverse V" i don't have it on my keyboard? |
| 18:33.49 | vira | daedalus: n/m, was wondering if you were a daedalus that i know |
| 18:33.50 | moshii | rrdf: you should google around, someone probably has a config for your framebuffer/monitor |
| 18:34.09 | eeyore- | caret? ^ |
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| 18:34.32 | azeem | shafiq_n: then type "grep \(EE\) /var/log/XFree86.0.log" |
| 18:34.39 | plight | What is a good bittorrent client to use with debian? one that supports encrypted header files and will be fast _for me_ |
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| 18:34.49 | azeem | shafiq_n: what kind of graphics card do you have? |
| 18:34.49 | beardy | shafiq_n: It's shift-6 on US keymap IIRC. |
| 18:34.57 | zinx | plight: how should we know what's going to be fast _for you_? |
| 18:35.09 | zinx | plight: and what the heck are encrypted header files? :D |
| 18:35.17 | xoz | !tell plight about search |
| 18:35.21 | nvz | azeem: I wouldnt type those 4 extra chars.. chances of EE comming up in another context is slim :P |
| 18:35.21 | eeyore- | zinx: i think it's sufficient to assume that when time starts to run backwards _for him_ then it's fast enough |
| 18:35.31 | plight | zinx: Well some bittorrent clients by default lean more towards sharing with others, and not necessarily getting the me the files quickly. |
| 18:35.48 | plight | zinx: isp are using packet shaping to slow/block out bittorrent |
| 18:36.07 | zinx | plight: read about search |
| 18:36.09 | shafiq_n | beardy : thanx buddy |
| 18:36.15 | jelly | does debian installer have support for resizing existing disk partitions, of ntfs type? |
| 18:36.19 | plight | zinx: I did. |
| 18:36.21 | shafiq_n | azeem: it says three errors |
| 18:36.29 | azeem | shafiq_n: which are they? |
| 18:36.29 | plight | zinx: There are 12 different bittorrent clients for linux. |
| 18:36.36 | shafiq_n | azeem: cannot open device/devinput/mice |
| 18:36.37 | plight | I wanted someone to recommend one if possible. |
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| 18:36.41 | rrdf | I had the same monitor running aleady with another PC with fb on.. and working |
| 18:36.43 | zinx | plight: apt-cache show <foo> will give you a good description usually |
| 18:36.44 | nvz | jelly: I've heard that it can. but I've got no sucess or failure stories to share |
| 18:36.56 | shafiq_n | azeem: cannot open input device |
| 18:37.02 | azeem | shafiq_n: ok |
| 18:37.05 | nvz | jelly: this is why we wrote the install guide /msg dpkg ig |
| 18:37.15 | shafiq_n | azeem: preinit failed for input device "configured mouse" |
| 18:37.23 | azeem | shafiq_n: what kind of mouse do you have? |
| 18:37.26 | moshii | rrdf: do you know what framebuffer hardware your sun has? |
| 18:37.44 | shafiq_n | azeem: wireless optique mouse |
| 18:38.01 | azeem | shafiq_n: ugh, can you get something more old fashioned? |
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| 18:38.04 | beardy | shafiq_n: That connects to the box via USB? |
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| 18:38.07 | azeem | a standard ps/2 mouse? |
| 18:38.12 | roler | Daedalus_; thanks again! |
| 18:38.12 | jelly | nvz: thanks, didn't occur to me to rtfm O:-) |
| 18:38.23 | nvz | I massage SPF 30 on my router routinely to keep out Sun technologies |
| 18:38.32 | nvz | jelly: heh |
| 18:38.35 | beardy | !mouse |
| 18:38.35 | dpkg | somebody said mouse was if you're having trouble with mice in XFree 4.0.2, go read /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.mouse.gz, or a small furry rodent found in many parts of this world. http://www.jahns-arpke.de/Privat/Bautagebuch_/Bautagebuch_mit_Fotos/15_05_2004/Maus.JPG |
| 18:38.41 | Sonny | hello how can I do to have an icon of any of my mounted partitions?(ntfs, usb key, etc) |
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| 18:38.49 | shafiq_n | azeem: yes sure. hold on, i'll connect my old mouse. brb |
| 18:38.52 | eeyore- | jelly: you trust linux to resize NTFS? undocumented NTFS? |
| 18:38.53 | stew | xfree 4.0.2? |
| 18:38.56 | nvz | Sonny: what desktop environment? |
| 18:38.59 | TiTaN_pi8 | Mmh when I try to boot from the current 'testing' cd, my pc reboots instantly |
| 18:39.31 | beardy | shafiq_n: use device /dev/input/mice protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X |
| 18:39.38 | jelly | eeyore-: yes. I'll just restore from the hidden partition if it fails, it's a new machine. |
| 18:39.51 | nvz | Sonny: in gnome there is a disk mounter applet, and also gdesklets has one too as for KDE I cant for the life of me understand their mounter applet |
| 18:39.55 | moshii | eeyore-: I've used some random linux based cd I found via google on a bunch of ntfs filesystems |
| 18:39.59 | shafiq_n | beardy: u mean i just type that now in the prompt? |
| 18:40.05 | azeem | shafiq_n: no |
| 18:40.09 | moshii | eeyore-: not one dead one :) |
| 18:40.13 | azeem | shafiq_n: type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 18:40.19 | beardy | shafiq_n: No, you should use that in your X configuration. |
| 18:40.28 | Sonny | nva_ gnome |
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| 18:40.33 | beardy | shafiq_n: Do what azeem said. |
| 18:41.07 | eeyore- | moshii: he's not asking whether you can *read* NTFS. he's asking to *resize* NTFS |
| 18:41.09 | shafiq_n | beardy & azeem : ok thanx guys, i appreciat ur patiance. i'll do the later |
| 18:41.14 | Sonny | nvz: before every time I load my system there was in my desk all my ntfs partitions as an icon... why not anymore? |
| 18:41.22 | eeyore- | moshii: go use linux to resize NTFS, then i'll be impressed |
| 18:41.23 | shafiq_n | i mean the last command azeem told me |
| 18:41.30 | azeem | ok |
| 18:41.33 | jelly | eeyore-: I don't like shelling out bucks for something like Partition Magic for a one-time job, but if that's what it takes... |
| 18:41.36 | beardy | shafiq_n: WHen it asks about the mouse, you select what I said above. |
| 18:41.38 | nvz | Sonny: you will need gnome-applets, capplets, gnome-panel, or gdesklets, gdesklets-data. for the panel applet, right click gnome-panel and Add> Applet > Disk Mounter> for gdesklets fire up the config and place some disk mounter desklets where you want them |
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| 18:41.55 | nvz | Sonny: if you want it to mount at boot you can do that. |
| 18:42.00 | eeyore- | jelly: if it's a new machine, why not just reinstall? |
| 18:42.14 | eeyore- | jelly: unless you have one of those no-media pc's |
| 18:42.16 | beardy | jelly: parted and/or qtparted, and ntfsresize can do it |
| 18:42.36 | nvz | Sonny: put it in your fstab to mount to say /media/windows if you need more than one user to access it you may want to create a group for access permisiion |
| 18:42.37 | shafiq_n | azeem: now i'm where it asks for graphic device |
| 18:42.38 | xoz | backup and play with the disk is safer |
| 18:42.45 | shafiq_n | mine is nVidia |
| 18:42.48 | azeem | shafiq_n: hit enter until you get to the mouse section |
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| 18:42.52 | nvz | Sonny: KDE and Gnome will put anything mounted to /media/ on your desktop automatically |
| 18:42.53 | moshii | eeyore-: http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/features.en.html |
| 18:42.58 | ma3x | how can I make crontab open my firefox browser every hour? |
| 18:43.00 | xoz | hd is cheapre than partition magic |
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| 18:43.03 | beardy | jelly: I don't know if the version in Debian can, but probably, Iäve used the livecd SystemRescueCD, and qtparted, to successfully resize ntfs partitions. |
| 18:43.05 | shafiq_n | azeem: ok got it |
| 18:43.10 | azeem | ma3x: I don't think you can |
| 18:43.14 | xoz | ma3x: why???? |
| 18:43.22 | ma3x | azeem, crontab runs itself doesn't it? |
| 18:43.27 | ma3x | it can't run my apps |
| 18:43.28 | azeem | ma3x: no |
| 18:43.33 | azeem | what? |
| 18:43.35 | ma3x | xoz I just want it to run some apps for me |
| 18:43.36 | nvz | Sonny: if its not a removable media, theres not much reason to need a disk mounter, just put it in your fstab to be mounted all the time. |
| 18:43.38 | azeem | who cannot run your apps? |
| 18:43.42 | jelly | beardy: that's what I wanted to hear. ;-) |
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| 18:43.49 | ma3x | azeem, eg. I am not here, I want it to run for me |
| 18:43.53 | azeem | ma3x: why do you want to run firefox every hour? |
| 18:43.58 | Quibus | any grub expert here? |
| 18:43.59 | xoz | ma3x: firefox to run apps? |
| 18:44.01 | ma3x | azeem, that was just a stupid example |
| 18:44.10 | azeem | ma3x: cron is meant to run console applications |
| 18:44.11 | ma3x | xoz, no , anything |
| 18:44.14 | Sonny | nvz : I did that |
| 18:44.16 | xoz | ma3x: crontab -e |
| 18:44.29 | ma3x | what about my applications, what can run them? |
| 18:44.55 | ma3x | let's say I want my xchat to open up exactly at 00:00 |
| 18:45.02 | azeem | ma3x: please |
| 18:45.12 | beardy | ma3x: 'man 5 crontab', 'man 1 crontab', crontab -e to edit with $EDITOR, crontab -l to list your jobs. |
| 18:45.16 | azeem | ma3x: why do you want to run graphical, interactive applications at a specific timeß |
| 18:45.19 | azeem | ? |
| 18:45.28 | jelly | azeem: there shouldn't be any big problem with running X apps from cron. Just set up DISPLAY and go? |
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| 18:45.36 | esher | hi |
| 18:45.38 | ma3x | jelly, how do I setup display? |
| 18:45.38 | shafiq_n | azeem: the mouse option passed to generic monitor, i didn't have a place to type the above command? |
| 18:45.42 | eeyore- | will have to try ntfsresize some day |
| 18:45.43 | beardy | ma3x: But those programs is no meaning to let cron start. |
| 18:45.50 | azeem | shafiq_n: sorry, I didn't get that |
| 18:45.51 | TiTaN_pi8 | anybody that has some info about why the latest netinst (testing) won't boot on my pc (my pc just reboots instantly when it tries to boot from cd)? |
| 18:45.51 | jelly | ma3x: what are you trying to do? |
| 18:45.55 | esher | are there an sarge for 64bit cpu out ?? or can i use "normal" sarge 3.1 netinstall ? |
| 18:46.02 | azeem | shafiq_n: it was not a command |
| 18:46.04 | jelly | s/do/accomplish/ |
| 18:46.05 | rrdf | no dont know chich framebuffer hardware.. it`s an ATI Rage XL 8MB onboard |
| 18:46.09 | azeem | 19:32 < beardy> shafiq_n: use device /dev/input/mice protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X |
| 18:46.18 | ma3x | jelly, vlc file.avi at a specific time |
| 18:46.28 | azeem | shafiq_n: there should be two questions about this, and those are the answers |
| 18:46.29 | ma3x | start playing the file |
| 18:46.53 | azeem | ma3x: do what beardy said |
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| 18:47.12 | mcquaid | hello, how can i determine what package provided a specific file |
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| 18:47.20 | jelly | ma3x: for a kiosk-like unattended machine, or something like an alarm? |
| 18:47.21 | azeem | mcquaid: apt-file |
| 18:47.42 | Sonny | how can I resize the icons of my desktop?... with the option with right click its disabled |
| 18:47.45 | shafiq_n | azeem: it says "Permission denied" |
| 18:47.48 | ma3x | jelly, exactly! |
| 18:47.56 | azeem | shafiq_n: who says that? |
| 18:48.02 | jelly | ma3x: what, the first or the second? |
| 18:48.11 | azeem | shafiq_n: what command did you run? |
| 18:48.13 | beardy | shafiq_n: WHen you do dpkg-reconfigure? You must run it as root. |
| 18:48.22 | Unetixs | I'm having serious issues with my linux system. Intermittantly (about once a day) I'll get a shitton of disk seek errors and DMA errors after which my system completely locks up and refuses to even respond to Numlock or Caps Lock (cruise control for cool). I just yanked the system and did a total surface scan and physical disk check, and it checked out. Fsck says the drive is clean. What do I do now, #Debian? |
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| 18:48.44 | ma3x | jelly, like an video-music-spot-alarm! |
| 18:48.50 | shafiq_n | azeem: computer says that. and i run this "/dev/input/mice protocol ExplorerPS/2" |
| 18:48.51 | jelly | rrdf: ATI Rage XL would be "atyfb" and maybe could run under vesafb. |
| 18:48.56 | mcquaid | azeem, apt-file looks cool, didn't know about that. but i think i want the opposite. i want to specify a file and have apt tell me what package it came from |
| 18:48.58 | azeem | shafiq_n: it's not a command |
| 18:49.04 | shafiq_n | beardy: i'm loged in as root |
| 18:49.08 | azeem | 19:39 < azeem> shafiq_n: there should be two questions about this, and those are the answers |
| 18:49.10 | Irrumator | mcquaid: dpkg -S <file> |
| 18:49.15 | eeyore- | Unetixs: motherboard chipset? |
| 18:49.17 | azeem | shafiq_n: rerun dpkg-reconfigure |
| 18:49.19 | beardy | Unetixs: What kind of disk, and what filesystem, and what version of Debian? |
| 18:49.27 | azeem | if you have not answered the mouse questions as indicated above |
| 18:49.30 | shafiq_n | azeem: ok |
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| 18:49.48 | Unetixs | eeyore-: Via chipset. Disk is a Maxtor 20gig, and distro is up-to-date Sarge |
| 18:49.51 | beardy | !drxx shafiq_n |
| 18:49.51 | dpkg | shafiq_n: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:49.52 | Unetixs | EXT3 |
| 18:49.56 | eeyore- | Unetixs: which VIA? |
| 18:50.07 | eeyore- | Unetixs: and what are expansion cards you have plugged in? motherboard? |
| 18:50.15 | jelly | ma3x: something like 51 19 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 vlc my_junk.avi # run vlc at 19:51 every day, on first X server. |
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| 18:50.32 | shafiq_n | dpkg: thanx :) |
| 18:50.32 | dpkg | shafiq_n: pas de quoi |
| 18:50.43 | Johannesen | does anyone know why I get this: [ 591.463980] bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.... when trying to modprope bcm43xx... I have done the fwcutter setup... does this have anything to do with udev or hotplug? |
| 18:50.45 | eeyore- | Unetixs: what's the IDE controller? |
| 18:50.51 | shafiq_n | dpkg: tu parle francias? |
| 18:50.55 | Sonny | Hi, I apt-install remove kde but there're still all the apps of kde, how can I remove all of them? |
| 18:50.56 | Unetixs | eeyore-: the one you can't figure out because there's an unmarked heat sink on the chipset. I don't have a single PCI card. I'm running a 950mhz AMD K6 |
| 18:51.01 | azeem | shafiq_n: dpkg is a bot |
| 18:51.04 | beardy | dpkg: It's a bot. |
| 18:51.08 | eeyore- | Unetixs: lspci will tell you |
| 18:51.09 | beardy | bah.. |
| 18:51.09 | ma3x | jelly, thanks a lot! |
| 18:51.21 | eeyore- | Unetixs: what's the IDE controller? |
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| 18:52.04 | Unetixs | eeyore-: SiS 730 Host |
| 18:52.57 | esher | are there an sarge for 64bit cpu out ?? or can i use "normal" sarge 3.1 netinstall ? |
| 18:53.26 | shafiq_n | azeem: thanx, i don't know that i can't msg bots. anyhow. I'm at the option for mouse and what u told me is not there i have "/dev/input/mice" and others |
| 18:53.32 | beardy | !amd64 |
| 18:53.32 | dpkg | [amd64] See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 18:53.45 | Red_Cloud | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.49 | eeyore- | Unetixs: kernel version? |
| 18:53.50 | azeem | shafiq_n: /dev/input/mice is fine |
| 18:53.59 | beardy | esher: what dpkg just said was for you |
| 18:54.04 | Berserker22 | Hi all ! I have 2 soundcards (snd_ens1371 & snd_via82xx) . How I can configure alsa to use first soundcard instead of second? It is possible with alsaconf tool, but I must run it after every reboot |
| 18:54.26 | Unetixs | !bash scripting |
| 18:54.32 | Unetixs | bah apt was better |
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| 18:54.44 | shafiq_n | azeem: after i choose yes for 3 button? |
| 18:54.46 | beardy | Unetixs: What are you looking for? |
| 18:54.50 | nvz | damn sissies.. I for one dont like the feel of lotion on my face.. these tissues with lotion are just rediculous |
| 18:54.53 | beardy | !absg Unetixs |
| 18:54.54 | dpkg | Unetixs: abs-guide is the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide to be found at http://www.tldp.org/guides.html#abs . It is also packaged, 'apt-get install abs-guide'. |
| 18:54.57 | eeyore- | Unetixs: i used to get (false) complaints from ide subsystem, when i was running 2.6.11-ish kernel, on promise pdc2026x controller |
| 18:54.58 | azeem | shafiq_n: yes, the protocol question is important |
| 18:55.26 | eeyore- | Unetixs: it might be possible you're getting one of those :-) esp. since you say you're not running any pci card, so it shouldn't be interrupt/dma conflict, or any bus-master issue |
| 18:55.27 | Unetixs | I happen to be running 2.6.11 |
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| 18:55.50 | shafiq_n | azeem: i hit yes for 3buttons and i hit yes for scroll option...then i'm done with mouse. it goes to monitor. so where's the protocol option? |
| 18:56.06 | azeem | shafiq_n: maybe before that? |
| 18:56.22 | azeem | shafiq_n: hit return till your done, and restart |
| 18:56.30 | beardy | shafiq_n: should be after the device question IIRC |
| 18:56.31 | eeyore- | nvz: i like the feel of desert sand on my face ... those fine 2000-grit grains :-) |
| 18:56.32 | jelly | bash scripting is for penguins. Real men use Bourne shell! |
| 18:56.37 | Unetixs | thanks a lot for the help eeyore-, I'll check into a new kernel and see how it works out |
| 18:57.03 | eeyore- | Unetixs: no prob. |
| 18:57.06 | beardy | !start a shell war |
| 18:57.07 | dpkg | zsh owns psh |
| 18:57.35 | E0x | psh |
| 18:57.36 | E0x | ? |
| 18:57.45 | nvz | eeyore-: hmm.. I dont know about that.. but I do know the reason peoples nose gets all sore is cause its got snot running out of it and they rake thick towels across a wet nose.. so adding a moisturizer doesnt seem to help much |
| 18:57.46 | jelly | !psh |
| 18:57.46 | dpkg | Path to Self Healing or PHP Syntax Highlighter |
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| 18:58.02 | eeyore- | coincidentally, i just plugged in a SIL31xx SATA controller to the pci bus, and it made my computer not boot, and made my hda go all funny and reset all the time :-) just goes to show you how there can still be PCI/DMA issues this day and age |
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| 18:58.06 | nvz | eeyore-: the tissues are soft, as apposed to say paper towels used for cleaning.. that alone was enough |
| 18:58.34 | shafiq_n | azeem: restart the system or that configration command? |
| 18:58.43 | azeem | shafiq_n: configuration |
| 18:58.46 | esher | hmkay, but ive use pentium not amd :) |
| 18:58.49 | eeyore- | BTW, that's a nice card "mSATA_pci", a 4-port (infiniband connector) PCI card, $49 |
| 18:58.49 | azeem | shafiq_n: you never have to restart the system |
| 18:59.17 | Unetixs | eeyore-: I remember once downloading a binary kernel, but what package should I search for? |
| 18:59.19 | eeyore- | so we run the infiniband cable into an external Sun 611 (i think) box that holds 4 SATA disks, nice, but very little room left |
| 18:59.25 | Unetixs | I know 2.6.8 at least is in Stable |
| 18:59.29 | eeyore- | Unetixs: linux-image or kernel-image |
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| 18:59.32 | Unetixs | thanks |
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| 18:59.54 | beardy | shafiq_n: The configuration! |
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| 18:59.58 | shafiq_n | azeem: ok thanx let me do the configration option again |
| 19:00.06 | nvz | eeyore-: in fact at closer examination of the contents of the lotion will reveal serious allergens |
| 19:00.15 | shafiq_n | beardy: yes thanx guys |
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| 19:00.33 | eeyore- | nvz: i hate moistened things of any kind |
| 19:00.46 | junocake | xoz, if you're still around I figured out he VNC issue. It was with /etc/hosts, my hostname was set to my real IP, so when it tried to open "hostname:02" it was going remotely instead of locally |
| 19:00.51 | nvz | eeyore-: yeah well I |
| 19:00.52 | eeyore- | nvz: my wife (used to) use baby wipes on my jeep ... |
| 19:01.00 | eeyore- | nvz: big mistake, that :-) |
| 19:01.01 | abrotman | freak! |
| 19:01.18 | nvz | eeyore-: 've not given it much thought but do have a thing about sticky stuff.. I dont really like to touch tape or stickers |
| 19:01.23 | TiTaN_pi8 | my computer hangs when I try to install debian testing (netinstall) |
| 19:01.46 | dv_ | is it true that ubuntu isn't exactly well received by debian user? |
| 19:01.52 | Coweater | TiTaN_pi8: when does it hang? |
| 19:01.56 | jelly | nvz: one could use the variants for babies, that are supposed to be free of allergens if one is too sensitive. one. |
| 19:02.02 | nvz | eeyore-: girls used to trade stickers and stuff in elementary school.. used to bug me the way people would put stickers all over everything.. cause I know they feel gross, and they leave their residue behind even after you remove em. |
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| 19:02.37 | Sonny | how can I resize the icons of my desktop? I use gnome |
| 19:02.45 | treyh0 | is k3bsetup broke for anyone other than me in testing / etch? |
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| 19:03.48 | nvz | that might be one of the reasons I am so against using post-its at work.. I am trying to make them realize its a waste of both time and money.. for marking the stuff we can use velcro or magnets.. for posting signs.. well we dont need to do that in the first place we need healthy forms of communication :P |
| 19:04.06 | eeyore- | nvz: that's carrying the fetish a little far :-) |
| 19:04.24 | jelly | nvz: hey, postits don't leave residue unless you mistreat them. |
| 19:04.48 | eeyore- | jelly: ever looked at the back of post-it's that have been sitting out for a while? eeeew. |
| 19:04.49 | SerajewelKS | treyh0: define "broke" |
| 19:04.58 | shafiq_n | azeem: how do i go back to root? |
| 19:05.04 | weasel00_zzz | nvz : i find communication via the water cooler gossip to be entertaining =) |
| 19:05.17 | gutano | with samba, is it possible to let windows users see available shares without password promp, but require a login when the try to access a secure share? |
| 19:05.18 | azeem | shafiq_n: where are you now? |
| 19:05.23 | jelly | eeyore-: yes, there is stuff on the postit, but not on the surface where it had been applied. |
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| 19:05.47 | shafiq_n | azeem: at command prompt and the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 is not working |
| 19:05.54 | nvz | jelly: thats besides the fact nobody should be posting signs.. they should be communicating properly.. and for marking our bins.. I write the same numbers on different post-its every damn day.. I can write it once on a magnet or velcro and pull it off and put it back every day and save the time of rewriting it, and the money of post-its |
| 19:05.54 | eeyore- | gutano: sure, man samba and read up on "browse" |
| 19:06.00 | azeem | shafiq_n: do you have a `$' as prompt? |
| 19:06.09 | shafiq_n | azeem: yes i do |
| 19:06.15 | azeem | shafiq_n: type `su' |
| 19:06.21 | shafiq_n | ok thanx |
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| 19:07.08 | treyh0 | bleh looks like the k3bsetup is broke from integration of an ubuntu patch, "hide k3bsetup" |
| 19:07.16 | jelly | nvz: or have a bulletin board ... with bullets. |
| 19:07.40 | weasel00 | nvz : corkboard poster boards with lots of pins =) |
| 19:08.06 | jelly | weasel00: for that nice antiquated office feeling. |
| 19:08.17 | shafiq_n | azeem: ok i'm back in configuration and first asks me about X-server driver? which one is the best? |
| 19:08.28 | shafiq_n | azeem: selected is "nv" |
| 19:08.28 | azeem | shafiq_n: just hit return for now |
| 19:08.37 | azeem | until you come to the mouse device or mouse protocol question |
| 19:09.07 | nvz | jelly: yeah well I work at a shithole where nobody knows their job, but likes to post signs telling other people what they should do. the damn foreman needs to step up and let them know _no_ _signs_ without his signature, and we do not have a complaint dept, if you have a legit concern adress at [daily|weekly|montly] staff meeting, if you want to bitch, go home. and I bet things improve. |
| 19:09.16 | shafiq_n | azeem: hit return on that, now i got "generic Video Card" so hit return? |
| 19:09.22 | azeem | shafiq_n: yes |
| 19:09.36 | nvz | you tell people to go the fuck home, and suddenly whatever is bothering them really doesnt seem that bad |
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| 19:10.06 | shafiq_n | azeem: it says "plz enter the video card's bus identifier." i don't know that. just hit return again? |
| 19:10.21 | azeem | shafiq_n: yes, until you get to the above mentioned questions |
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| 19:11.19 | paco | hello |
| 19:12.02 | nvz | weasel00: yeah we got two of em.. and the foreman uses em.. its the signs the other employees leave _all_ _over_ the plant that is rediculous.. each machine probably has 40 signs on it |
| 19:12.08 | shafiq_n | azeem: it goes through the configration of keyboard then the first question about mouse is the one with answer i told u above "/dev/input/mice" |
| 19:12.15 | paco | Yesterday I installed mail graph, but i still haven't any image displayed.. it gives me the alternate name... any idea ? |
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| 19:12.17 | shafiq_n | azeem: before this, there's nothing about mouse |
| 19:12.22 | azeem | shafiq_n: ok, so pay attention to the next one |
| 19:12.46 | weasel00 | nvz : suprised the machines work with all the clutter =) |
| 19:13.04 | shafiq_n | azeem: next question is about "emulate 3 button mouse?" |
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| 19:13.11 | azeem | bah |
| 19:13.13 | eeyore- | nvz: what kind of plant are you working in? |
| 19:13.17 | nvz | weasel00: bottom line is theres nobody in this particular plant that cares. I think its rediculous.. our biggest customer being a multi-billion dollar a year industry and being satisfied with the 20-40mil a year we gross is pathetic |
| 19:13.19 | azeem | shafiq_n: ok, hit enter till end |
| 19:13.24 | nvz | eeyore-: injection molding |
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| 19:13.30 | eeyore- | nvz: cool |
| 19:13.31 | azeem | then try startx again, did you plug in the other mouse now? |
| 19:13.52 | shafiq_n | azeem: ok i'm back at the prompt |
| 19:14.12 | eeyore- | nvz: why not look for another job? |
| 19:14.31 | nvz | not to mention we probably loose (garbage) 20% of all our product every day. |
| 19:15.34 | weasel00 | nvz : highering? i come clean up postits all day for the right price =) |
| 19:16.19 | nvz | eeyore-: there arent jobs any better or different in the state of pennsylvania.. and its dead simple.. I am just disgusted at the condition of the place. its disgraceful. on the one hand I look at a company with original patentens that are revolutionizing the industry and could be making billions hen I look and see a shit hole that is so close to being shut down from every angle, safty, customers dropping them for the way the place is run..etc |
| 19:16.36 | shafiq_n | azeem: what now? |
| 19:17.09 | azeem | startx |
| 19:17.41 | eeyore- | nvz: why not get out now before the ship sinks? |
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| 19:18.03 | nvz | eeyore-: they've got at _least_ $250,000 in pirated software which they dont even need.. they are running equipment they do not have permission from the labor and industry dept to run. they plant is dirty, unsafe, and doesnt to anyones standards meet OSHA requirements, the proper labor law posters are nowhere to be found, more than half our machines are down more often than not, and we are loosing 20% or better of everything we make each day |
| 19:18.05 | shafiq_n | azeem: i got again the very first error, it says "fatal IO error 104"? |
| 19:18.24 | nvz | eeyore-: I dont work for em.. I work for Gregg Services I will be positioned elsewhere when that happens |
| 19:18.34 | azeem | shafiq_n: run "grep \(EE\) /var/log/XFree86.0.log" again |
| 19:18.45 | nvz | eeyore-: they've already done everything I've said so far.. and slowly conditions are improving. |
| 19:19.38 | nvz | eeyore-: its the overall lack of desire to do what needs done vs. the bare minimum to stay afloat that disgusts me.. I can see how much money they could be making.. I could pay Dick his $40mil a year and walky away with 800mil a year with what they got going in there. |
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| 19:20.46 | nvz | eeyore-: any time we bring people in to sell an old machine or something.. they are all looking around at anything but what they are buying.. cause we are more advanced than most of the industry.. mist people are still feeding material by hand, blowinf on the parts to cool them.e.tc our shit is fully automated with custom patented technology we designed |
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| 19:23.32 | Pryon | they don't want to license the stuff? |
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| 19:24.09 | abrotman | that's a competitive advantage .. and probbly a big one |
| 19:24.14 | eeyore- | i've wanted to learn how to weld |
| 19:24.14 | nvz | eeyore-: I've been doing this for the past few years.. hopping around doing labor work for hurting companies.. when I get back into IT work I want to be working with open source, and with businesse not home users on windows like I used to.. that shit is tired.. so the knowledge I am gaining from seeing these companies at their worst point is invaluable research to my future |
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| 19:24.38 | cd_rom | quick question guys, how can i be sure that .xinitrc and .xsession will be executed in my ~? |
| 19:24.52 | zinx | .xsession won't if you use .xinitrc |
| 19:25.06 | cd_rom | i got both, i need it for startkde 3.5 |
| 19:25.13 | shafiq_n | azeem: when i run grep... it gives me the same errors as before "xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice....and... Configured Mouse: cannot open input device...and... PreInit failed for input device "configured mouse" |
| 19:25.15 | eeyore- | nvz: sometimes you have to relax :-) a bit of inefficiency is expected |
| 19:25.24 | xoz | debian uses .xsession |
| 19:25.27 | cd_rom | from source, try to figure it out for few days |
| 19:25.34 | nvz | eeyore-: yeah 5% or something is workable.. 20% or more is not |
| 19:25.35 | cd_rom | neither of those files exist by default |
| 19:25.46 | azeem | shafiq_n: bah |
| 19:25.46 | zinx | you shouldn't need .xinitrc |
| 19:25.51 | zinx | if you use it, it will override everything. |
| 19:26.00 | azeem | shafiq_n: is this the regular ps/2 mouse now? |
| 19:26.10 | cd_rom | zinx: so how can i start my new kde 3.5 from source? |
| 19:26.17 | zinx | cd_rom: you can use .xsession instead. |
| 19:26.17 | cd_rom | .xsession? |
| 19:26.17 | shafiq_n | azeem: yes, it's an old ps/2 mouse |
| 19:26.25 | nvz | eeyore-: thats why corporate sends us all the shitty broken equipment and we cant ever get anything done. cause we dont strive to improve both the product and the process like all those 15 year old posters hanging around say. |
| 19:26.40 | azeem | shafiq_n: type "ls /dev/input/mice", does it yield an error? |
| 19:26.47 | Quibus | To rescue my system, I ran grub-install from my Knoppix cd, targeting my debian root partition (grub-install --root-directory=/dev/hda6 /dev/hda), but now my kernel doesn't boot, it says that it can't find init |
| 19:26.53 | Quibus | Quibus, what's wrong? |
| 19:26.54 | eeyore- | nvz: we use post-its :-) |
| 19:26.56 | cd_rom | thanks zinx! i got the idea |
| 19:27.25 | nvz | eeyore-: this is a world-wide company with plants in italy, china.. engineering groups.. etc our plant is the only one with this much waste, with no union, with people who have worked for a decade without raises.. |
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| 19:27.29 | shafiq_n | azeem: it says command not found |
| 19:27.55 | azeem | shafiq_n: ls not found? |
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| 19:28.04 | eeyore- | nvz: well see, that's the problem. decade without raises? that's got to suck for morales |
| 19:28.04 | nvz | eeyore-: its downright pathetic when your customers are Delphi, Seaquest..etc basically the US govt, Automotive industy.. billion dollar industries and you cant even GROSS 50mill a year |
| 19:28.06 | azeem | sh that's a small "L" |
| 19:28.12 | azeem | shafiq_n: that's a small "L" |
| 19:28.14 | azeem | ls |
| 19:28.15 | xoz | Quibus: try chroot and install grub from there |
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| 19:28.39 | Quibus | xoz, I chrooted and installed the package. Should I really do a grubinstall from there? What params? |
| 19:29.08 | shafiq_n | azeem: oh sorry, i thought that's 1 or I.. so now when i type the right command it just returns with this line "/dev/input/mice" |
| 19:29.18 | azeem | shafiq_n: ok, so the device is there |
| 19:29.21 | nvz | eeyore-: oh it does, and this is contirbuting to the problems because Dick tells Terry to do something, he tells howie, and well howie says fuck them I've been here for 9 years as a supervisor and everyone just for a few cents raise, I am still making $9/hr |
| 19:29.40 | Quibus | (Note: i was using lilo before the problems started... see debian bug 354458) |
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| 19:30.15 | eeyore- | nvz: fire Howie and Terry. |
| 19:30.22 | amee2k | i did as root 'cd; modprobe loop; dd if=/dev/zero of=hdimage bs=1M count=10; losetup /dev/loop0 hdimage; mkfs -t ext2 /dev/loop0' but mkfs reports 'mkfs.ext2: Drive size reported to be zero' and exits. any hints what I am doing wrong? |
| 19:30.51 | joedoh | Can anyone tell me the how to see if I have php installed? |
| 19:30.57 | xoz | Quibus: use manual setup if grub-install in chroot doesnt work. goto grub shell and work from there. info grub. |
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| 19:31.26 | xoz | Quibus: sometimes, grub-install script doesnt work |
| 19:31.45 | Quibus | xoz - I haven't try the grub-install script from the chroot yet, because I was advised to run it from knoppix |
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| 19:31.47 | nvz | eeyore-: heh.. Terry is the new foreman probably less than 2 yrs there.. young man, still in school.. he has potential.. the problem is the people above him have no desire to do anything but make a profit.. Dick got this company cause his wife inheritied it and lets him run it into the ground and howie is a good man, just has two young kids and health problems and bitter-underpayed-employee syndrome. its not that he doesnt want to work. |
| 19:32.19 | amee2k | joedoh: enter 'php --help' on the command line? when it says 'command not found' php obviously is not installed |
| 19:32.20 | xoz | Quibus: run knppix. mount the real root. chroot to that real root. and install grub from there. |
| 19:32.48 | joedoh | amee2k: thanks that makes sense :) |
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| 19:35.15 | cisse | ugh how can you figure out the blocksize a filesystem was created with |
| 19:35.23 | shafiq_n | azeem: any suggestions? |
| 19:35.30 | azeem | shafiq_n: maybe it helps if you run "dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86" |
| 19:35.44 | azeem | shafiq_n: see whether that yields an additional question about the protocal |
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| 19:35.49 | azeem | shafiq_n: or wait |
| 19:36.04 | xoz | Quibus: /msg dpkg knoppix deboostrap. you can get some info from there. |
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| 19:36.20 | azeem | shafiq_n: what does "grep Protocol /etc/X11/XF86Config-4" say? |
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| 19:36.35 | shafiq_n | azeem: let me run it . |
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| 19:37.25 | xoz | shafiq_n: you can also use hwinfo to check your mouse protocol and where it is located. |
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| 19:37.49 | amee2k | any ideas about my loop device problem? |
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| 19:38.29 | shafiq_n | azeem: ur command came with a line that says "Option ..Protocol... ImPS/2" |
| 19:38.30 | xoz | shafiq_n: like sudo hwinfo |less .. then /mice |
| 19:38.41 | macsim | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.42 | shafiq_n | xoz: thanx |
| 19:39.59 | CptnObvious | I need help in getting the latest kernel. I am trying to get it from apt-get but for some reason it doesn't have matching kernels and kernel sources. I have a 2.6.15-1 kernel and the latest seems to be a -8. However it's not on my mirrors. |
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| 19:41.48 | shafiq_n | azeem: did u see my answer? |
| 19:42.00 | azeem | shafiq_n: yes, but I don't know |
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| 19:42.05 | xoz | CptnObvious: apt-cache show <kernel-image> | grep Version |
| 19:42.12 | stew | CptnObvious: the lastes kerenl is 2.6.15-1 version 2.6.15-8 the first part is the upstream version, the second part indicates its the 8th debian release of 2.6.15 |
| 19:42.21 | azeem | shafiq_n: maybe a reboot with the new mouse connected will help, dunno |
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| 19:43.11 | xoz | CptnObvious: i think you have the latest one if you check apt-cache show |
| 19:43.22 | jerware | fellaz |
| 19:43.54 | jerware | every time i restart my debian box, my route and ifconfig settings clear and i have to enter them back in. |
| 19:44.14 | shafiq_n | azeem: i rebooted and it says "I cannot start X graphical ....maybe it is not configured properly..." |
| 19:44.32 | xoz | jerware: did you set them in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 19:44.41 | xoz | jerware: else, man interfaces |
| 19:44.49 | jerware | xoz: ahh so thats the file, thanx |
| 19:45.15 | jerware | the debian book i was looking at sucks |
| 19:45.17 | xdr | anyone know if it's possible to use 2 soundcards (one usb) at the same time? |
| 19:45.21 | xoz | jerware: then check by, /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 19:45.25 | jerware | ok thanx |
| 19:45.35 | xdr | xoz: do you know? |
| 19:45.38 | raf256 | hello |
| 19:45.45 | ma3x | when I type 'firefox cnn.com' in the console, I want it to open in a new firefox window, but it always opens in the same one. how do I launch it in a new one? |
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| 19:45.57 | xoz | xdr: havent tried it but in theory it should be ok. |
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| 19:46.46 | cahoot | xoz: in practice also |
| 19:46.59 | strider | ma3x: man firefox |
| 19:47.26 | xoz | ma3x: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Command_line_arguments |
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| 19:49.53 | jerware | what was that nework interface file? |
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| 19:49.56 | jerware | sorry i got cut off |
| 19:49.58 | yassine | where can i set the time that the dhcp need to wait to gets an ip at boot time please ? |
| 19:50.00 | rrdf | is there a special option that I should use for onboard rage 8MB XL is "ati" correct, or do i need a different driver for rage? |
| 19:50.02 | xoz | shafiq_n: try google for the config. |
| 19:50.02 | jerware | when i moved my laptop to the basement |
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| 19:50.20 | xoz | jerware: man interfaces |
| 19:50.41 | xoz | /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:51.21 | jerware | thanx |
| 19:51.57 | xoz | yassine: dhcpd.conf somewhere in /etc |
| 19:52.09 | yassine | xoz, thanks |
| 19:52.39 | xoz | yassine: or dhclient.conf for clients |
| 19:52.43 | jelly | rrdf: does in not work with ati? |
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| 19:53.16 | xoz | rrdf: ati is a generic driver i think |
| 19:53.33 | ma3x | xoz, this switch -new-window requires me to specify profile, and is unable to use the default one, since I already have opened it |
| 19:53.35 | rrdf | no.. I searched for the right refresh rates for my compq 117FS Screen and entered it into xorg.conf.. but still refresh not sync |
| 19:53.48 | Jimz | Ive got X with a window manager but its off screen by about an inch to the top right, can anyone help? |
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| 19:54.23 | xoz | ma3x: killall firefox and start with -new-window everytime you start |
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| 19:54.46 | jazbo | Jimz, it's not just the settings on the monitor? |
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| 19:55.04 | rrdf | I even used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-blabla and entered 1024x768x75hz.. doesn`t work either |
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| 19:55.28 | ma3x | xoz, it still requires me to choose user profile |
| 19:55.41 | Mike-_- | anyone here craced a sony vaio eeprom password ? |
| 19:55.44 | strider | ma3x: works for me firefox -new-window url |
| 19:55.49 | xoz | ma3x: create one :) |
| 19:55.56 | ma3x | strider, type it twice |
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| 19:56.18 | ma3x | and tell me if you don't get the same profile pop-up window |
| 19:56.34 | strider | ma3x: well i typed it 4 times. 4 windows! |
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| 19:57.18 | strider | ma3x: man firefox. you could specify a profile if it dosen't work for you |
| 19:57.38 | yggdrasil | hi i was wondering if there was some sort of script that i can use to go thru all my mp3 folders and make playslists for them all ? |
| 19:58.00 | ma3x | strider, I type it 2 times, and the second time it wants me to choose a profile |
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| 19:58.06 | ma3x | and when I choose the profile, it says it's already in use |
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| 19:58.54 | SimonRaven | ma3x: lock file; it probably crashed (missed part of the convo) so you'll need to remove the lock file |
| 19:58.56 | xoz | ma3x: check preferences in your firefox. or you can install extensions like tab-mix-plus and configure it to open a new tab for every new link. |
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| 19:59.30 | ma3x | SimonRaven, where is the lockfile locate? |
| 19:59.50 | SimonRaven | in that's profile's dir |
| 19:59.58 | D3B|4N | need help |
| 20:00.06 | xoz | yggdrasil: cplay? |
| 20:00.06 | SimonRaven | s/that's/that/ |
| 20:00.18 | moshii | Is it possible to have pinyin input at the same time as using anthy for japanese with uim? |
| 20:00.21 | SimonRaven | D3B|4N: state your problem as clearly as you can |
| 20:00.48 | strider | ma3x: http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/ffwontstart.html see if it explains anything |
| 20:00.50 | D3B|4N | need reinstal the mouse in my destokp dell inspiron 6000 |
| 20:00.54 | xoz | moshii: can restate your question |
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| 20:01.21 | D3B|4N | but i don´t |
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| 20:01.31 | moshii | xoz: I want to have Chinese pinyin input with UIM, I already have Japanese using Uim-anthy |
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| 20:02.34 | jazbo | moshii, you could try #debian-zh |
| 20:02.45 | ma3x | oh great, I just deleted my default profile and all of my bookmarks are gone |
| 20:02.54 | Jimz | jazbo : heh thanks, didnt even cross my mind to sort the monitor - been dealing with config files all day |
| 20:03.00 | yggdrasil | xoz |
| 20:03.02 | ma3x | to make it worse, two hours ago I overwrote my DVD backup |
| 20:03.02 | yggdrasil | ? |
| 20:03.04 | moshii | jazbo: I only started learning Chinese today ;) |
| 20:03.07 | yggdrasil | hey moshii how you do |
| 20:03.21 | moshii | yggdrasil: good mate, yourself? |
| 20:03.23 | Dorset-Guy | Hi.... can someone remind me the command to restart the debian config ? |
| 20:03.28 | yggdrasil | yea right |
| 20:03.31 | yggdrasil | aright even |
| 20:03.34 | xoz | base-config? |
| 20:03.39 | D3B|4N | tnhx for the help bye |
| 20:03.41 | yggdrasil | jsut working on a laptop with a non public video card |
| 20:03.42 | yggdrasil | :( |
| 20:03.48 | Dorset-Guy | aha |
| 20:03.52 | yggdrasil | xoz cplay you say? |
| 20:03.53 | Dorset-Guy | ta |
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| 20:03.57 | jazbo | Jimz, yeah, it's like half the time something's not working it's just not plugged in, lol |
| 20:04.01 | strider | ma3x: you should have just deleted the .lock file. damn! |
| 20:04.02 | xoz | yggdrasil: just a guess |
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| 20:04.13 | yggdrasil | ahh... |
| 20:04.37 | yggdrasil | well see my home theater thing is driving me crazy because it will play mp3s only from a playlist |
| 20:04.40 | Pendragon | join #python says "You need to be identified to join that channel", what is that? I've never seen that in irc before. |
| 20:04.41 | SimonRaven | !ni |
| 20:04.56 | ma3x | strider, is there any way to get back my bookmarks? |
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| 20:05.07 | yggdrasil | so need to just make m3u files of all my stuff and its mostly organized in folders soo... |
| 20:05.12 | SimonRaven | Pendragon: has to do with the network. you need to register your nick and a passwd |
| 20:05.21 | SimonRaven | Pendragon: /msg nickserv help |
| 20:05.27 | SimonRaven | @ni |
| 20:05.28 | ravenbird | i heard ni is night |
| 20:05.39 | rrdf | I´m really one step before having X running on my sun blade.. could you please give me a hint on how to make the screen preference? |
| 20:05.47 | lewis | why would a changed /etc/motd not be saved across a reboot? |
| 20:05.55 | jazbo | yggdrasil, what kinda home theater setup you have going? |
| 20:06.00 | yggdrasil | vdr |
| 20:06.06 | moshii | yggdrasil: adding lot's of tracks to the mp3 playing in a dbox crashes it, so maybe playlists are the way to go |
| 20:06.09 | Ronin | Pendragon: /met nickerv, never mind heh |
| 20:06.25 | yggdrasil | moshii yea well it seems to work pretty good but its a bit of a process to make them... |
| 20:06.41 | moshii | rrdf: you select the monitor settings near the end of the xserver config |
| 20:06.43 | yggdrasil | jazbo you familiar with that ? |
| 20:06.56 | SimonRaven | @no ni is <reply>ni is Nicaragua; 2-letter: ni; 3-letter: nic; number: 558 |
| 20:06.57 | ravenbird | okay, SimonRaven |
| 20:07.00 | xoz | lewis: because of /etc/motd.static |
| 20:07.02 | yggdrasil | moshii so i was just wondering if there was some .sh or .py that would do it. |
| 20:07.08 | SimonRaven | !ni is <reply>ni is Nicaragua; 2-letter: ni; 3-letter: nic; number: 558 |
| 20:07.09 | dpkg | SimonRaven: okay |
| 20:07.19 | rrdf | yes... generic monitor I entered the refresh rates by myself into xorg.conf |
| 20:07.33 | strider | ma3x: don't know. but why delete the profile? |
| 20:07.37 | lewis | I don't have a motd.static, though I do have a motd.tail - what are these new files for? |
| 20:07.38 | moshii | yggdrasil: dunno, not too hard to write your own |
| 20:07.52 | jazbo | yggdrasil, no. Just googled it though, sounds cool. I'd love to have one of those large dishes when I have a house someday. I've got a myth box right now |
| 20:07.53 | yggdrasil | it would be my first .. script of that magnitude |
| 20:07.55 | Pendragon | what is the command to change your name? |
| 20:07.58 | Pendragon | in irc? |
| 20:08.05 | yggdrasil | jazbo works fine with small dishes too |
| 20:08.12 | yggdrasil | ive got four of them plugged onto it |
| 20:08.15 | SimonRaven | Pendragon: /nick newnick |
| 20:08.23 | Pendragon | thanks |
| 20:08.34 | ma3x | strider, I dunno I just did it |
| 20:08.38 | SimonRaven | Pendragon: /help will show you more stuff |
| 20:08.40 | AlienX | ooo now he's 31337 |
| 20:08.45 | jazbo | yggdrasil, do the small ones pick up the free international stuff? |
| 20:08.55 | plight | What is a good tracker to list my lug's meeting on, I have an ogg/theora video and I'm not sure a good tracker to go to for this sort of stuff. Is there a tracker site for oss stuff or no? |
| 20:09.01 | jelly | !nickometer Pendrag0n |
| 20:09.03 | dpkg | 'Pendrag0n' is 22.000% lame, jelly |
| 20:09.09 | yggdrasil | jazbo pretty much... |
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| 20:09.11 | jelly | not too bad |
| 20:09.14 | SimonRaven | AlienX: eh? |
| 20:09.19 | SimonRaven | oh, never mind |
| 20:09.25 | mantang0 | hmm.. Using Samba3. Only users in the Domain Admins group can create local profiles on workstations. Is there some privilege I'm missing from the Domain Users group? |
| 20:09.25 | AlienX | heh |
| 20:09.58 | lewis | what is the point of 'allow-hotplug eth0'? That was in my interfaces file, instead of 'auto eth0'. When I restarted networking, my interface wasn't brought back up, but it was when I had 'auto eth0' there instead. |
| 20:10.16 | SimonRaven | would've been mildly funny if s/he'd changed to 'newnick' =) |
| 20:10.43 | strider | ma3x: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Lost_bookmarks |
| 20:10.56 | SimonRaven | lewis: hotplug breakage. leave it at 'auto' you'll be ok |
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| 20:11.12 | SimonRaven | newnick: heh |
| 20:11.22 | lewis | what is it meant to do with hotplug? |
| 20:11.56 | tarzeau | azeem: haha |
| 20:12.04 | moshii | lewis: cardbus nic, i think maybe it handles laptop connections too |
| 20:12.17 | jazbo | yggdrasil, what prog needs to read the playlists? |
| 20:12.38 | SimonRaven | oh yeh, it's for switching networks for wifi shite |
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| 20:13.32 | lewis | and, the other new line I noticed in interfaces (compared to older versions of debian), is: mapping eth0, script grep, map eth0 |
| 20:13.39 | lewis | I couldn't make sense of the man page |
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| 20:14.21 | xoz | lewis: forget about mapping. |
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| 20:14.36 | peritus_ | how can i change MTU on a ethernet interface 'on the fly'? |
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| 20:15.12 | yggdrasil | jazbo its a plugin for vdr called mp3 |
| 20:15.13 | yggdrasil | haha go figure |
| 20:15.18 | lewis | ok - left that alone - just reading http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/HOTPLUG.txt at the moment, to find out more. |
| 20:15.20 | xoz | lewis: you can use switchconf for a better solution if you switch network often |
| 20:16.18 | xoz | peritus_: man ifconfig |
| 20:16.23 | lewis | I don't switch network at all, and I only use onboard NICs. I was just surprised that when I '/etc/init.d/networking restart', with no changes, I lost connection, with a default interfaces file. |
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| 20:17.11 | Unetixs | eeyore-: so far so good, my disk hasn't done anything weird yet. Thanks for the tip |
| 20:17.12 | xoz | lewis: are you sure you interfaces file is properly configured? |
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| 20:17.41 | lewis | well, there was no 'auto eth0' in it by default - I had to add it. |
| 20:17.55 | xoz | lewis: you need auto <interfaces> |
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| 20:18.06 | lewis | why wouldn't it have been there by default though? |
| 20:18.12 | xoz | lewis: otherwise, that interface wont work |
| 20:18.18 | lewis | all there was instead was the hotplug line, which I have since commented out. |
| 20:18.27 | jazbo | yggdrasil, do you know the format of the playlist? There should be a file mplayer.sh that "shows how a playlist can be passed to MPLayer" |
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| 20:18.56 | xoz | lewis: where did you get that interface line? usually it contains nothing unless you configure it. |
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| 20:19.18 | yggdrasil | jazbo as far as i can tell they are just standard m3u files |
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| 20:19.36 | zimnyx | How can i compare two binary files? |
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| 20:19.48 | yggdrasil | jazbo i used xmms to make a few playlists but ive gota ton of stuff |
| 20:19.53 | ma3x | strider, that's excellent, I got it back! |
| 20:19.54 | zimnyx | there is very little difference |
| 20:19.55 | yggdrasil | so i just thougth there might be some easy way |
| 20:20.17 | ma3x | strider, now just the settings. how can I make the default profile use my y3tao0bn.default folder/ |
| 20:20.18 | strider | ma3x: congrats! where was the backup? |
| 20:20.33 | ma3x | strider, in ~/.mozilla/firefox/y3tao0bn.default |
| 20:20.43 | lewis | I installed with debian etch (amd64) beta 2 yesterday. With woody, it would add 'auto eth0', above the other eth0 line. With etch, it didn't have the auto line. |
| 20:20.54 | ma3x | strider, but now firefox doesn't want that profile anymore, it always creates another one without asking me :( |
| 20:21.03 | lewis | I just want to know if I did anything wrong for it not to have been added automatically. |
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| 20:22.22 | ma3x | strider, hold on, now I can't even launch it , it says it's in use |
| 20:22.27 | cva | I'm stumbling with a udev issue. I need to change the permissions on /dev/inputs/events*. I've changed /etc/udev/permissions.rules to KERNEL="event[0-9]*", PROGRAM="/etc/udev/scripts/inputdev.sh %k", RESULT="inputdev", MODE="0660", GROUP="users", however rebooting still shows crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 64 2006-03-17 13:09 /dev/input/event0 |
| 20:22.27 | cva | crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 65 2006-03-17 13:09 /dev/input/event1 |
| 20:22.27 | cva | crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 66 2006-03-17 13:09 /dev/input/event2 |
| 20:22.27 | cva | crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 67 2006-03-17 13:09 /dev/input/event3 |
| 20:22.27 | cva | crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 68 2006-03-17 13:09 /dev/input/event4 |
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| 20:22.29 | ma3x | but I can't find the lockfile :( |
| 20:22.34 | strider | ma3x: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/profile#move |
| 20:22.36 | ekkikrist | oh no |
| 20:22.43 | cisse | ma3x: pkill firefox |
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| 20:22.59 | Quibus | xoz, I'm afraid I missed your replies after my last one... Can you please repeat? |
| 20:23.01 | jelly | cva: did you restart udev? |
| 20:23.10 | ma3x | cisse it doesn't help |
| 20:23.13 | cva | yes, rebooted as well. |
| 20:23.22 | lewis | xoz: this was my untouched interfaces: http://pastebin.com/607971 |
| 20:23.23 | cisse | ma3x: strace starting it ? |
| 20:23.56 | ma3x | cisse, console gets flooded, can't read anything useful |
| 20:23.59 | cva | I've tried changing the mode in the premissions file to 666 as well. restarted udev, no change |
| 20:24.04 | CoolCubix | I'm installing a Debian Etch (testing) and during Install process, aptitude gives a dependance error. What can I do ? |
| 20:24.13 | strider | ma3x: check the link? |
| 20:24.25 | ma3x | strider, can't open the browser |
| 20:24.25 | jazbo | yggdrasil, is there a reason you can use xmms or something similar to make the playlists? Do you want a command line way to do it? |
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| 20:24.47 | cva | running sarge, udev 0.056-3 |
| 20:24.56 | strider | cisse: he deleted his profile and wants to restore it |
| 20:24.59 | yggdrasil | jazbo i just want to run a script and have it make the playlists for me |
| 20:25.18 | strider | ma3x: use another browser, even links2 will do |
| 20:25.19 | ubushine | hello world -- can someone please tell me where i can get an 'official' list of debian repository options. |
| 20:25.20 | yggdrasil | because theres a bunch of mp3s |
| 20:25.25 | zimnyx | IS there diff for binary files? |
| 20:25.32 | zinx | xdelta |
| 20:25.39 | Quibus | xoz? |
| 20:25.40 | ubushine | right now i only have the base install. where can i see other options i can put in sources.llist |
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| 20:26.24 | zimnyx | zinx: thanks |
| 20:26.28 | zinx | there's also bsdiff apparently |
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| 20:26.34 | zinx | you can find more w/ apt-cache search binary diff |
| 20:27.10 | Quibus | Or, can someone send me the log of the last hour |
| 20:27.11 | Quibus | ? |
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| 20:27.19 | ma3x | strider, that's excellent I got everything back |
| 20:27.46 | ma3x | thansk! |
| 20:28.07 | jazbo | yggdrasil, check out `apt-cache show extract`. You could use this to get the id3 tag info in a script to write your m3u file. Looks like the m3u format is pretty simple |
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| 20:28.29 | yggdrasil | hmm.. |
| 20:28.32 | yggdrasil | thanks dood |
| 20:28.33 | strider | ma3x: np, careful with deleting next time :) use mv |
| 20:28.35 | jelly | is there a difference between external USB2 and firewire disks? This USB2 thing consumes a lot of cpu/interrupts. |
| 20:28.42 | yggdrasil | im surprised theres not one out there. |
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| 20:28.59 | ma3x | strider, I did 'mv * from the bak folder to the new default folder :) |
| 20:29.03 | xoz | Quibus: run knppix. mount the real root. chroot to that real root. and install grub from there. |
| 20:29.41 | Quibus | xoz, run: grub-install --root-directory=/dev/hda6 /dev/hda? |
| 20:29.51 | Quibus | xoz, /dev/hda6 is my real root |
| 20:30.26 | jelly | m3u can be a simple file list. I have alias m3u="ls -1 *.mp3 > 00-.m3u" |
| 20:30.34 | strider | ma3x: when you deleted your profile first ;) |
| 20:30.55 | ma3x | strider, I did delete it, and chose all files to be removed, but for some reason it was still there... :) |
| 20:31.07 | SerajewelKS | yggdrasil: what are you trying to do? sounds like something i wrote once upon a time. |
| 20:31.33 | ma3x | strider, you got firefox? |
| 20:31.38 | strider | ma3x: it gets recreated i think |
| 20:31.43 | yassine | any one can suggest me a tool like ibmonitor for debian please ? network traffic monitoring |
| 20:31.44 | strider | ma3x: yes |
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| 20:31.49 | yggdrasil | jsut a script taht goes thru your mp3 folders and makes a playlists for each folder.. |
| 20:31.52 | ma3x | strider, can we test together something? |
| 20:31.53 | yggdrasil | i think i found somethign guys |
| 20:31.57 | Quibus | yassine, iptraf or something |
| 20:32.00 | jazbo | yggdrasil: http://linux.com.hk/penguin/man/1/fapg.html |
| 20:32.09 | jazbo | apt-cache search is your friend |
| 20:32.22 | ma3x | strider, I am trying to do 'firefox -new-window cnn.com' type that twice in different console and tell me if it opens twice |
| 20:32.45 | yassine | Quibus, thanks |
| 20:32.52 | yggdrasil | jazbo thats it... |
| 20:32.53 | yggdrasil | thanks |
| 20:33.04 | strider | ma3x: hang on |
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| 20:33.23 | jazbo | np, I think i'm gonna install that too |
| 20:33.52 | strider | ma3x: again yes. no problem. both open :) |
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| 20:34.23 | ma3x | strider, here, I get the 2nd time the pop-up window to choose profile |
| 20:34.47 | ma3x | strider, and default is the only profile. when I choose it, it says it's already in use. so what should I do? |
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| 20:35.00 | strider | ma3x: hmm, try jusr deleting the .lock file in your profile |
| 20:35.03 | cva | any other thoughts on my udev issue? |
| 20:35.11 | ma3x | strider, there is no .lock file :) |
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| 20:35.19 | rib | hello |
| 20:35.50 | Quibus | xoz - do you think it can access the boot sector from the chroot? |
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| 20:36.03 | jazbo | So I was watching the #windows channel for kicks and someone was having problem with media player crashing with some error and the best anyone could come up with as a fix was to defrag the drive... hilarious |
| 20:36.33 | yggdrasil | sudo apt-get isntall fapg |
| 20:36.46 | rib | i want to upgrade kernel 2.4.31 to 2.6 but the last time i tried to do that my dedicated server is go down someone can help me please |
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| 20:37.17 | strider | ma3x: firefox 1.5? unstable? |
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| 20:39.08 | rib | please.... |
| 20:39.19 | fernando | hola |
| 20:39.25 | ma3x | strider, unstable :) |
| 20:39.31 | pipeline | rib: Perhaps you should configure a serial console before anything goes horrendously wrong, eh? |
| 20:39.38 | ma3x | strider, 1,0,6 |
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| 20:40.11 | rib | pipeline:how to do that ? please |
| 20:40.12 | Quibus | rib - it should work, but we're interested in what you mean with 'is go down'.... What exactly went wrong? |
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| 20:40.36 | strider | ma3x: have to go. brb |
| 20:40.58 | ma3x | strider, sure, laytah |
| 20:41.19 | fernando | hola |
| 20:41.55 | rib | my server is hosted , and when i have reboot after the apt-get install of the image , my server doesn't let me acces via ssh and appache,php,pureftp,mysql,.... dosent workk |
| 20:41.59 | jazbo | hola |
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| 20:43.17 | Quibus | rib - if it's hosted, there's not much you can do |
| 20:44.50 | yggdrasil | yea that works pretty good |
| 20:46.31 | lewis | how can I view system locale options? when viewing man pages through SSH, I often get skewed text. Is it something I should change through putty, or something I need to change on the box? |
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| 20:47.55 | Quibus | lewis - dpkg-reconfigure locales? |
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| 20:49.11 | evilbulgarian | hi, looking for some tips on managing more then 20 linux systems can someone recoomend some tools / documents ? |
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| 20:49.30 | lewis | bah - don't have dpkg-reconfigure :( |
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| 20:50.04 | grap | hi |
| 20:50.17 | Daedalus_ | evilbulgarian: cluster or deployment? |
| 20:50.23 | gnufan | evilbulgarian: doing what? |
| 20:50.31 | cva | lewis apt-get install debconf |
| 20:50.39 | evilbulgarian | Daedalus_ , gnufan : memcached boxes |
| 20:50.41 | lewis | already installed. |
| 20:50.51 | ma3x | strider? |
| 20:51.11 | gnufan | How to enable spell checker in Thunderbird? I can't spell accessibility apparently. |
| 20:51.20 | Daedalus_ | evilbulgarian, I'm not sure what that means |
| 20:51.20 | SerajewelKS | lewis: 'locate dpkg-reconfigure' |
| 20:51.44 | lewis | in: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:51.51 | lewis | oops |
| 20:51.52 | gnufan | Daedalus_: google knows |
| 20:51.55 | SerajewelKS | gnufan: that looks fine to me |
| 20:51.56 | evilbulgarian | Daedalus_ , gnufan : its a daemon that is sort of like a database |
| 20:52.04 | SerajewelKS | lewis: yeah you need to be root |
| 20:52.14 | Daedalus_ | evilbulgarian: so essentially this is a cluster setup |
| 20:52.15 | SerajewelKS | lewis: or that |
| 20:52.16 | rib | quibus: why ? please |
| 20:52.39 | evilbulgarian | Daedalus_: yes |
| 20:52.48 | SerajewelKS | gnufan: you don't 'enable' the spell checker, you click the 'check spelling' toolbar button |
| 20:52.55 | lewis | ooh - which is the better local of the EN_GB ones, ISO, or UTF-8? |
| 20:53.16 | Quibus | rib - well, you don't have any idea what went wrong, so it's hard to tell how you can prevent it, right? |
| 20:53.24 | SerajewelKS | lewis: define "better" |
| 20:53.30 | strider | ma3x: yes, have a look at this http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_in_use |
| 20:53.34 | Daedalus_ | evilbulgarian, clusterssh is a nice tool that allows you to run parallel ssh sessions on machines (eg: you can log in to the entire cluster, and execute the same command everywhere) |
| 20:53.45 | lewis | UTF gives me skewed characters over SSH. Should I remove it or have both? |
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| 20:53.49 | gnufan | SerajewelKS: that the greyed out icon I can't click on you mean? |
| 20:53.50 | SerajewelKS | rib: you upgraded the kernel remotely? |
| 20:53.58 | strider | ma3x: or create a new profile and try. Google should be able to help more as well. |
| 20:53.58 | SerajewelKS | gnufan: O_o |
| 20:54.00 | rib | whes |
| 20:54.03 | evilbulgarian | Daedalus_: ok il take a look at that |
| 20:54.16 | SerajewelKS | gnufan: apt-get install myspell-en-us |
| 20:54.29 | rib | yes via putty |
| 20:54.34 | SerajewelKS | rib: shame on you |
| 20:54.46 | strider | SerajewelKS: did you try the livecd? |
| 20:54.49 | gnufan | SerajewelKS: :( I just did myspell-en-gb installl --- I'll check the docs some more... |
| 20:55.02 | SerajewelKS | strider: yup, it failed after detecting ide0 and ide1 |
| 20:55.07 | strider | ma3x: it's .parentlock |
| 20:55.11 | SerajewelKS | strider: failed as in hang, ctrl+alt+del wouldn't work |
| 20:55.22 | strider | SerajewelKS: damn! |
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| 20:55.53 | SerajewelKS | strider: no idea why either... debian kernels boot fine |
| 20:56.01 | SerajewelKS | strider: this was really early in the boot process too |
| 20:56.08 | lewis | oh - might be putty passing 'local environment variables' to sshd? |
| 20:56.27 | SerajewelKS | rib: so you did a remote kernel upgrade and expected your box to boot properly |
| 20:56.45 | rrdf | I did it! Xorg on SPARC Sun Blade 100.. I had to add an entry into xorg.conf.. at the section ati: option="ReferenceClock" "29.50 Mhz |
| 20:56.49 | SerajewelKS | rib: please tell me you're not a trained professional |
| 20:56.59 | ma3x | strider, I tried locate .parentlock (with previous updatedb) but nothing comes out |
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| 20:57.54 | strider | ma3x: backup profile. Create a new one and then try. |
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| 20:58.49 | ma3x | strider, oaky let me try! |
| 20:58.49 | ryan` | I'm trying to run DHCPd on a bridge interface, and it does not seem to be seeing DHCP discover packets on the bridge, which contains eth1 and eth1.2 (a vlan) |
| 20:59.30 | strider | ma3x: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager |
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| 20:59.55 | strider | ma3x: and later if it works : http://kb.mozillazine.org/Migrating_settings_to_a_new_profile |
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| 21:02.14 | ma3x | strider, okay now I have 'lock' file which I removed it, but it keeps creating itself after every new opened window |
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| 21:04.01 | strider | ma3x: .parentlock? |
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| 21:04.09 | cpt-carter | I am writing an init script for Bea Weblogic on SID and am having a slight problem. I'm pretty experienced with shell scripting, but I have an obscure problem and was wondering inf anyone knows a fix. |
| 21:04.14 | gnufan | SerajewelKS: Spelling is working now -- not sure if it was the dictionary -- or correcting the dictionary setting in prefs.js... still it is spelling in proper English English. |
| 21:04.49 | gnufan | cpt-carter: what is obscure problem |
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| 21:05.32 | cpt-carter | I run su - www -c "/path/to/my/domain/startWeblogic.sh &" in the case statement when the start argument is passed as $1 |
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| 21:05.58 | cpt-carter | startWeblogic.sh will stay running as it starts one of the servers and stays in the foreground unless you background it with & |
| 21:06.22 | cpt-carter | I am running it on my test machine, and it hangs at the end until I press enter for it to return to a prompt |
| 21:06.24 | roxy_ | (more of an english problme than a debian problem :-)I am going over the Securing Debian Manual. In 4.7 it says: login.defs, editing the CONSOLE variable which defines a file or list of terminals on which root logins are allowed . Does it means only via su or su and sudo ? |
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| 21:06.58 | cpt-carter | roxy_: via login like ssh vs console vs serial I believe |
| 21:07.11 | ma3x | strider, not .parentlock, it's simply 'lock' filename |
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| 21:07.28 | SerajewelKS | gnufan: cool |
| 21:07.50 | SerajewelKS | strider: if the kernel paniced at east i would have some clue as to what went wrong =/ |
| 21:07.52 | ubushine | is it recommended to _always_ avoid installing an ubuntu .deb package for debian? |
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| 21:08.05 | roxy_ | cpt-carter: but is says before: Some security policies might force administrators to log in to the system through the console with their user/password and |
| 21:08.06 | roxy_ | then become superuser (with su or sudo) |
| 21:08.16 | ma3x | strider, it's a link file to lrwxrwxrwx 1 ma3x ma3x 17 2006-03-17 22:12 lock -> localip:18992 |
| 21:08.17 | SerajewelKS | ubushine: generally, yes. the dependency layout is probably different. |
| 21:08.36 | strider | ma3x: don't know. haven't experienced it so far in Linux. there are some other solutions. check the urls or google |
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| 21:08.47 | ubushine | SerajewelKS, thought so. i tried installing multi-aterm from ubuntu and it royally f'd up my system. |
| 21:09.04 | ubushine | luckily it's a bran new install and i don't mind reinstalling |
| 21:09.07 | strider | SerajewelKS: got some wierd new hardware? |
| 21:09.08 | cpt-carter | ubushine: Well try getting the source via apt-get source packagename. Then cd into the source directory and try dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot. If that doesn't work when you have the right packages installed, it wont work without some hacking |
| 21:10.04 | ubushine | well, having gone through that learning process, is there a multi-tabbed terminal for debian? |
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| 21:10.10 | ubushine | other than installing kde or gnome? |
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| 21:11.04 | Estes2 | anyone here do virtual dedicated for _cheap_ on debian ? notice i'll manage my own DNS |
| 21:11.21 | cpt-carter | ubushine: the xfce terminal has tabs |
| 21:11.23 | stew | ubushine: you can install konsole or multi-gnome-terminal without installing all of kde or gnoem, there is also mrxvt, but you really should just learn screen :) |
| 21:11.54 | gnufan | cpt-carter: hmm tset or similar in the ".profile" of the user? |
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| 21:12.33 | ubushine | stew, i tried konsole (35MB) with dependencies and gnome-terminal was about the same. screen. ya i've used it. i was talking about a local terminal not remote? |
| 21:12.45 | ubushine | cpt-carter, xfce terminal has tabs? |
| 21:12.58 | cpt-carter | ubushine: here is proof: http://www.os-cillation.com/fileadmin/templates/images/screenshots/terminal-tabbed.png |
| 21:13.00 | stew | ubushine: yeah screen works for local too, if you want something light you might try mxrvt-mini |
| 21:13.03 | dubbaluga | hi! i get this (http://pastebin.com/608054) error, when using make-kpkg - does anybody of you know what that means? i'm currently using linux-2.6.16-rc6 with the libata-patch |
| 21:13.19 | kronoz | is there a way to force apt ot pull in all possible dependencies of a package? |
| 21:13.22 | ubushine | cpt-carter, what's the package name? i installed xfce4 and the terminal included was just xterm? |
| 21:13.23 | strider | ubushine: screen rocks! |
| 21:13.32 | stew | ubushine: make that mrxvt-mini |
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| 21:13.36 | kronoz | namely gnomad2... |
| 21:13.42 | pipeline | ubushine: xfce doesn't have a terminal app -- it uses gnome-terminal.\ |
| 21:13.42 | ubushine | strider, screen from local use, not remote? |
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| 21:13.59 | ubushine | pipeline, i thought so |
| 21:14.21 | lewis2 | debian keeps replacing my motd upon reboot. I found a reference to /etc/motd.tail in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh - any ideas of how to prevent the automatic changing? |
| 21:14.23 | cpt-carter | ubushine: xfce4-terminal |
| 21:14.25 | pipeline | ubushine: gnome-terminal is one of the many gnome applications that doesn't use any more than the most basic gnome libraries :P |
| 21:14.28 | ubushine | cpt-carter, ya thanks but that's gnome-terminal |
| 21:14.33 | roxy_ | stew: wtf with screen. A lot of "knowlegeable" linux people use it. I try to read some doc but couldn't find anything mor than xterm |
| 21:14.47 | strider | ubushine: sure |
| 21:14.49 | jelly | ubushine: screen rocks both locally and remotely |
| 21:14.59 | ubushine | pipeline, i wanted to install it but it was over 28MB!!! |
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| 21:15.19 | asg | lewis2: /etc/default/rcS |
| 21:15.23 | cpt-carter | gnufan: How would I use tset like that? |
| 21:15.34 | ubushine | i never thought of using screen locally? where's my head been? |
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| 21:15.48 | ubushine | i thought it was for remote use only, for ssh sessions |
| 21:15.58 | stew | roxy_: i could never work without screen again. it lets you do stuff like save shells with commands running across x sessions or ssh sessions, lets you copy paste with no mouse, scrollback, share a terminal between two users... lots and lots of features |
| 21:16.01 | lewis2 | asg: EDITMOTD isn't in there - should I add it? |
| 21:16.07 | cpt-carter | ubushine: screen is a console window manager if you will |
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| 21:16.17 | gnufan | cpt-carter: I mean "tset" or something that tries to do terminal (tty) manipulation in .profile or .bashrc causing the "su -" to read the .profile and hang trying to set terminal settings... |
| 21:16.21 | asg | lewis2: are you running stable? |
| 21:16.23 | jelly | ubushine: you head has been looking at graphical displays with multiple terminals, probably |
| 21:16.31 | ubushine | jelly, yup! |
| 21:16.56 | lewis2 | asg: etch |
| 21:16.59 | asg | lewis2: well, it's in stable and unstable so if EDITMOTD=no isn't in there, add it and see. |
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| 21:17.27 | jelly | ubushine: but imagine a textual terminal is your only access to the machine, then screen is very useful. |
| 21:17.55 | cpt-carter | gnufan: Let me take a look. I'll check /etc/profile also |
| 21:17.58 | asg | ubushine: it's also useful for many people to collaborate on a single screen |
| 21:18.15 | jelly | ubushine: for example, if this machine is a user-mode-linux fake one, you can open each virtual console in a screen instead of the default lots-of-xterms. |
| 21:18.27 | roxy_ | stew: what more than M-x shell in Emacs. |
| 21:18.36 | ubushine | jelly, ya -- thanks for making me realize something i should have known. originally i wanted only shell access to this new debian install. but then i went for it and just installed basic x-windows and xfce4 |
| 21:18.46 | gnufan | cpt-carter: have you tried 'su - user -c "someother command" ' might shed light as well |
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| 21:19.15 | ubushine | asg, screen can be used to collaboate with many people? |
| 21:19.17 | eeyore- | lewis2: why not, grep -Hr EDITMOTD /etc /usr and see where it's used? :-) |
| 21:19.21 | cpt-carter | gnufan: I tried su - user -c "ls -R /" |
| 21:19.32 | ubushine | is there a good screen howto that you guys recommend. or just RTFM? |
| 21:19.35 | stew | roxy_: you can close an xterm, later open another and resume where you left off, even if you have shut down x in the middle, and your processes will still be running |
| 21:19.39 | cpt-carter | gnufan: I mean ls -R >/dev/null |
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| 21:19.43 | eeyore- | ubushine: yes, -x i think |
| 21:19.48 | ubushine | i've used screen with ssh pretty well |
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| 21:19.54 | asg | ubushine: sure, we use it when offsite vendors for our ERP system are making changes so we can watch what they are doing. |
| 21:19.55 | stew | roxy_: if you use it on a remote box, you can be sshed in from two different places and see the same screen |
| 21:20.02 | conga | can we apt-get install emerge |
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| 21:20.12 | conga | hey stew |
| 21:20.15 | conga | you are here |
| 21:20.15 | lewis2 | I have a file called /etc/motd.tail - ever heard/seen one of those before? |
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| 21:20.25 | stew | roxy_: my wife and i have it so that hitting f8 sshes into the machine hooked to the stereo and attaches you to the screen controlling the music/volume |
| 21:20.27 | lewis2 | EDITMOTD isn't referenced anywhere, but where I just added it. |
| 21:20.31 | eeyore- | asg: john /etc/passwd ...^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H |
| 21:20.32 | ubushine | eeyore-, -x? you mean screen -x? |
| 21:20.34 | SR|Ada | daft question, but I can't seem to find apt-setup in base-config on Debian etch/amd64 - where is it meant to be? or is it deprecated? |
| 21:20.35 | cpt-carter | ubushine: I just installed xfce4-terminal. it is *not* gnome-terminal |
| 21:20.49 | roxy_ | stew: lot of people I respect on #lfs are using it so I had a look on man but wasn't win over. Any screen tutorial or info node? |
| 21:20.50 | gnufan | ubushine: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/34 |
| 21:20.58 | ubushine | cpt-carter, really? sorry, i'll have a quick look then |
| 21:20.59 | asg | eeyore-: hah |
| 21:21.02 | cisse | SR| i think it was depreciated, not sure what for |
| 21:21.04 | Unetixs | I'm considering using a Debian machine as a corporate mailserver. I need to figure out how to scan my mails for viruses and spam. Can anyone tell me where I should start looking? |
| 21:21.04 | SerajewelKS | strider: no, just a standard nforce2 chipset |
| 21:21.16 | Unetixs | besides google, lol |
| 21:21.16 | stew | conga: you can look at apt-build, but its considered mostly a waste of time |
| 21:21.18 | errno | When we install postgresql while the installation ask he to enter an password for the 'postgre' user? I not remeber it, idem for the password. |
| 21:21.18 | SerajewelKS | strider: hda is western digital, hdb is seagate |
| 21:21.21 | asg | eeyore-: good to see you with your tail out :) |
| 21:21.25 | ubushine | gnufan, cheers. |
| 21:21.32 | cpt-carter | ubushine: If you open it up, it looks similar, but look at the menus and especially the about and you will realize there is nothing gnome other than gtk about it. |
| 21:21.33 | SR|Ada | Unetixs, erm, could try Sophos, or clamav - depending on situation |
| 21:21.40 | jelly | ubushine: I usually have one term per machine (including the local one), and a screen in each. Tabbed terminals like multi-gnome-terminal or konsole are nice but still a bit immature and prone to crashes. |
| 21:21.47 | SR|Ada | I think milter-ng rings a bell for email filtering |
| 21:21.50 | strider | SerajewelKS: and the part where it locks up? |
| 21:21.59 | Unetixs | SR|Ada: all of my clients are using windows |
| 21:22.05 | rib | i am a novice on linux and i want to install helix server |
| 21:22.10 | stew | roxy_: i don't know of a good tutorial off the top of my head, i wouldn't think it would be hard to find though |
| 21:22.17 | SerajewelKS | strider: after it says something like " ide0: ..." \n " ide1: ..." |
| 21:22.19 | ubushine | jelly, thanks again. never thought to use screen on a local box. |
| 21:22.26 | SerajewelKS | strider: the next line when i boot in vmware is "hda: ..." |
| 21:22.30 | SR|Ada | Unetixs, I'm not sure what relevance that bears to choosing an AV solution for a debian server? |
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| 21:22.35 | rib | but it work only on 2.6 and my hosted server is an 2.4 |
| 21:23.22 | Unetixs | SR|Ada: I want to make sure my mails don't contain virii that windows is vulnerable to. The Powers That Be have determined it's not worthwhile to have virus scanners on the clients. |
| 21:23.35 | roxy_ | stew: np, I'll google and give it another shot :-) |
| 21:23.38 | SerajewelKS | Unetixs: the powers that be are morons |
| 21:23.53 | SR|Ada | Unetixs, well, Sophos runs on linux too |
| 21:23.56 | Unetixs | doesn't change the fact that my job is to accomodate |
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| 21:24.11 | stew | roxy_: the first time someone showed it to me i said "so what" then a few years later i groked it and couldn't believe i was ever working without it |
| 21:24.14 | SerajewelKS | Unetixs: clamav is a pretty capable email scanner |
| 21:24.15 | SR|Ada | Unetixs, and Sophos and clamav are both, iirc, suitable for email scanning on a server |
| 21:24.17 | roxy_ | Unetixs: using virii is nice. I like it |
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| 21:24.18 | Unetixs | do you know if the linux and windows versions would contain the same virus definitions? |
| 21:24.20 | ubushine | thanks everyone for the great tips. |
| 21:24.30 | SerajewelKS | Unetixs: apt-get install clamav |
| 21:24.35 | errno | I have reinstall postgresql with 'apt-get install --reinstall postgresql' but he not ask to enter an password. I try to make an user for postgre, so that i can create an database |
| 21:24.50 | SR|Ada | I understand you can use milter-ng to interface your mailer to the AV tool, but check that out |
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| 21:25.01 | SerajewelKS | Unetixs: and clamav-freshclam |
| 21:25.10 | Unetixs | ok, thanks SR|Ada |
| 21:25.27 | SR|Ada | Unetixs, yes, the linux version of Sophos uses the same definitions as Windows (and as MacOS, UNIX,.... ad nauseum) |
| 21:25.41 | SR|Ada | Unetixs, I am a Sophos user myself |
| 21:25.51 | SR|Ada | but have not used it on linux recently |
| 21:25.59 | Unetixs | for client or server use? |
| 21:26.03 | strider | SerajewelKS: maybe try booting with kororaa-nofb and see where it's failing |
| 21:26.13 | SR|Ada | I use Sophos on my mum's machine |
| 21:26.22 | Unetixs | haha, ok |
| 21:26.22 | SR|Ada | but it's perfectly capable as a standalone scanning engine |
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| 21:26.32 | gutano | how can I make a dropbox in a samba share that ppl can't delete (but they can delete the items they've dropped in it) |
| 21:26.36 | roxy_ | stew: I am still in the so what period, but as I said, when you're on a channel and like:"hmm, that guy knows what is talking about", then another guy, then another and all of them are using screen...you start thinking :-) |
| 21:26.38 | SerajewelKS | strider: ... that's what i did ... |
| 21:26.48 | SR|Ada | gutano, erm... I think you can make the directory sticky |
| 21:26.50 | nvz | Unetixs: if you mean will linux virus scanners find windows virus yes most of them will thats the whole point keeping linux servers that have windows clients from transmitting the disease |
| 21:26.50 | strider | SerajewelKS: nah, check the site instead the forums :) |
| 21:26.51 | SerajewelKS | strider: i just gave you the info, how else do you think i got it? |
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| 21:27.04 | strider | SerajewelKS: just realized that :P |
| 21:27.08 | SR|Ada | gutano, so that they can write to it, but can't delete what they don't own |
| 21:27.09 | nvz | Unetixs: just cause its ammune to windows strains, doesnt mean it should be a carrier. |
| 21:27.32 | gutano | SR|Ada: thanks a bunch =D just need to know what it was called, I can google |
| 21:27.51 | asg | roxy_: I keep this irc session running in screen so I can connect to it from any suitably secure machine. I'm currently at the pub with my laptop. |
| 21:27.59 | SR|Ada | gutano, iirc it's chmod's +t option |
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| 21:28.08 | nvz | asg: heh you geek |
| 21:28.09 | SR|Ada | check the manpage, as always, gutano |
| 21:28.19 | cpt-carter | gnufan: I found 2 tset lines in ~/.profile, not in ~/.bash_profile or /etc/profile. I commented out the two in ~/.profile. Then I ran the script as root that does su - user -c "/path/script.sh & >/dev/null 2>&1" |
| 21:28.22 | SerajewelKS | asg: me too! |
| 21:28.27 | cpt-carter | gnufan: it still hangs |
| 21:28.31 | nvz | asg: I used to take mine to the library.. now a days hotspots have sprung up all over town. |
| 21:28.40 | stew | asg: i've more than once read someone saying that the reason they learned screen was to stay connected to irc more :) |
| 21:28.41 | asg | nvz: Drinking and Debbing is a standard policy ;) |
| 21:28.45 | roxy_ | asg: you're fucking geek, have a beer, get a girl a get your head out of your computer |
| 21:28.50 | asg | stew: there you go :) |
| 21:28.52 | stew | !pubtime |
| 21:28.52 | dpkg | pubtime is probably time for asg to go .. 3pm!, or http://jackalopejacks.com/ |
| 21:29.06 | asg | roxy_: the girl is on her way, and I've got the beer |
| 21:29.20 | SerajewelKS | strider: ... where are the forums |
| 21:29.22 | stew | and i really like never going offline on AIM so that my clients don't relize when i have a state change and start all hitting me at once |
| 21:29.35 | stew | yay bitlbee!! |
| 21:29.41 | cpt-carter | roxy_: Or even better... have a girl while drinking and debbing. |
| 21:29.45 | asg | stew: we must all hug bitlbee |
| 21:29.48 | strider | SerajewelKS: hmm, let me get the link |
| 21:30.19 | roxy_ | that's right, time to go, have a good one everybody :-) |
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| 21:31.02 | strider | SerajewelKS: http://kororaa.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=36&sid=fed328771669195a2344a8bb3e953733 |
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| 21:31.23 | strider | SerajewelKS: give it a go. seems fairly active :) |
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| 21:31.49 | SerajewelKS | strider: can i borrow your session cookie? ;) |
| 21:32.00 | ubushine | cpt-carter, what repositories do i need to see xfce4-terminal. i don't see it here? basic debian sarge install. |
| 21:32.18 | lewis2 | I found two interesting lines in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh : |
| 21:32.23 | lewis2 | uname -snrvm > /var/run/motd |
| 21:32.23 | lewis2 | [ -f /etc/motd.tail ] && cat /etc/motd.tail >> /var/run/motd |
| 21:32.28 | cpt-carter | ubushine: I figured you were using ubuntu as your name starts with ubu :-/ |
| 21:32.47 | lewis2 | any suggestions as to how I can tell it to stop doing that is good. should I just comment it out? |
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| 21:32.56 | ubushine | cpt-carter, ah ... yes i use ubuntu but i wanted to try a real debian install too |
| 21:32.57 | cpt-carter | ubushine: I play with both, but I would never use ubuntu on a server |
| 21:33.09 | strider | SerajewelKS: dosen't matter. not logged in :P |
| 21:33.20 | stew | lewis2: why not just comment them out from bootmisc? |
| 21:33.24 | SerajewelKS | strider: aww.... |
| 21:33.26 | ubushine | cpt-carter, i see. |
| 21:33.30 | cpt-carter | ubushine: apt-cache search xfce4 ? |
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| 21:33.43 | lewis2 | because that is the creation of /var/run/motd, not the copying to /etc/motd |
| 21:33.46 | strider | SerajewelKS: haven't tried it out, already have Xgl working |
| 21:33.47 | abrotman | ubushine: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 21:33.50 | ubushine | cpt-carter, ya tried that. no xfce-terminal or xfce4-terminal |
| 21:33.51 | nvz | speaking of the library.. I got a two week overdue book.. *sigh* |
| 21:34.25 | nvz | whats the fee now .10 a day I think? I am probably up to like $2 now :P |
| 21:34.25 | abrotman | more bills for nvz! |
| 21:34.33 | cpt-carter | ubushine: it's a pretty small app. I'm sure it would be easy to compile. And you could use checkinstall -D to make a deb of it |
| 21:34.54 | abrotman | ubushine: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 .. please .. it may not be available in your current version |
| 21:35.07 | ubushine | abrotman, ya there lies my problem and why i need to reinistall debian. i tried installing an ubuntu package and it replaced my debian libc6 package and broke some stuff |
| 21:35.21 | abrotman | ubushine: what does it say ... |
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| 21:35.35 | ubushine | iU libc6 2.3.6-0ubuntu9 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 21:35.41 | ubushine | it's broken though |
| 21:35.41 | abrotman | ubushine: and/or paste your sources |
| 21:35.42 | abrotman | !paste |
| 21:35.43 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 21:36.18 | nvz | they didnt even notify me until 2 weeks after the due date.. I dont see what the point in email notification is :P |
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| 21:36.52 | ubushine | dpkg, yes, i knew. cheers. check it here: http://pastebin.ca/46062 |
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| 21:37.37 | SimonRaven | it's a bot |
| 21:38.00 | abrotman | ubushine: those are legit sources .. but as you said .. you've infected your machine with the ubuntu virus |
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| 21:38.18 | ubushine | abrotman, yes, i now know. it's ok, live and learn |
| 21:38.42 | conga | hey people compile from source and binary which one is best? |
| 21:38.46 | abrotman | ubushine: it is possible to mix .. but things may break .. and you may cry .. and most likely .. noone will help you with a mixed machine |
| 21:38.56 | abrotman | !tell conga about why debian |
| 21:38.58 | ubushine | abrotman, now that you've seen my sources. where can i get a list of other options i can inlude in sources, like contrib, non-free, etc?? where are these offical repositories? |
| 21:38.59 | abrotman | !tell conga about apt-build |
| 21:39.09 | abrotman | !tell ubushine about contrib |
| 21:39.12 | abrotman | !tell ubushine about non-free |
| 21:39.13 | conga | thanks :) |
| 21:39.23 | conga | i'm a bit confuse |
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| 21:39.44 | abrotman | conga: in debian you can do both .. if you ocmpile .. you're on your own for security updates etc .. |
| 21:39.53 | chealer | conga: it depends of your situation and which package you're talking about |
| 21:39.55 | nvz | damn, I need to stop fucking around and do some work.. I keep spacing out cause I get all light headed every time I sneeze.. this cold creeped up on me the past few nights |
| 21:41.11 | ubushine | abrotman, thanks for the lesson |
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| 21:42.28 | nvz | my task is simple: burn sarge cd set.. I keep geting horribly sidetracked |
| 21:42.29 | Zugschlus | !dpkg start an mta war |
| 21:42.30 | dpkg | postfix owns |
| 21:42.38 | ioerror | Where's the best place to find an rpm of debootstrap? Should I just create it myself with alien? |
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| 21:43.12 | abrotman | you could ... |
| 21:43.16 | Stromberg | hello. i just installed debian. everythings fine but... no sound :/ Card is Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS |
| 21:43.25 | abrotman | Stromberg: what kernel? are you using alsa? |
| 21:43.32 | lewis2 | with etch, I no longer get that 'keyboard interactive authentication' message when logging in via SSH, that I did with woody. I have no idea what it meant, but I feel like I am missing about 'big-time'! |
| 21:43.36 | Stromberg | 2.6.15 |
| 21:43.37 | abrotman | Stromberg: and are you in the audio group ? |
| 21:43.40 | Stromberg | and yes alsa |
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| 21:43.43 | Stromberg | err |
| 21:43.47 | abrotman | uhh |
| 21:43.47 | Stromberg | audio group? :) |
| 21:43.56 | abrotman | does sound work for root and not your user? |
| 21:44.02 | Stromberg | didnt try |
| 21:44.11 | abrotman | Stromberg: also .. |
| 21:44.15 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 21:44.17 | abrotman | !alsa check list |
| 21:44.19 | abrotman | hrm |
| 21:44.25 | Stromberg | just start some sound thing with "su" ? |
| 21:44.31 | abrotman | !alsa-checklist |
| 21:44.31 | dpkg | from memory, alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
| 21:44.50 | Stromberg | mmh |
| 21:44.57 | nvz | I need to make a 15 cd wallet with debian logo to go with these damn cds. |
| 21:44.59 | Stromberg | seems i dont have alsaconf :S |
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| 21:45.10 | Stromberg | just alsamixergui |
| 21:45.10 | nvz | even 15 slim jewel cases is a little rediculous |
| 21:45.18 | Hessophanes | lewis2: keyboard-interactive is the regular password prompt SSH issues if PAM is enabled (sshd_config, UsePam yes). |
| 21:45.31 | Thrawn | Hey. I'm trying to use backports with this line in sources.list: deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main ; Every package I try to install (ie: libapache-mod-php5) it says that it is "not available, but is referred to by another package". Any Ideas? |
| 21:45.39 | User143 | hi ? |
| 21:45.45 | zenbum | apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils; alsaconf |
| 21:46.05 | User143 | do you know a program to format my memory card in fat 16 |
| 21:46.08 | nvz | bah! everytime I unshade a window it pastes the clipboard to irssi.. this is not cool. I need to rethink my key bindings here |
| 21:46.09 | lewis2 | I am using PAM, but it doesn't display that silly message. |
| 21:46.10 | SerajewelKS | Thrawn: you done 'apt-get update'? |
| 21:46.11 | Stromberg | running thx |
| 21:46.17 | Thrawn | SerajewelKS, Yes :/ |
| 21:46.27 | Stromberg | i thought it is installed as kde didnt complain when i chose alsa |
| 21:46.29 | nvz | or at least the focus model on my terminal window |
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| 21:46.41 | Thrawn | SerajewelKS, Even out of desperation, I removed all other sources, then did an update |
| 21:46.45 | Hessophanes | lewis2: What did it say before? Don't think it's a big deal that it's gone... |
| 21:46.46 | quiet | where would I put in a request for program update in Etch? |
| 21:46.47 | nvz | I think its enter-only when it should/could be enter-exit |
| 21:47.05 | abrotman | quiet: what kind of update? |
| 21:47.07 | karma | I just got a new dedicated server... remote.. and it has 2 harddrives, but only one is mounted. I tried mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /bkps but it says that hdb1 is not a valid block device. How can I find the location of the second drive? |
| 21:47.14 | quiet | abrotman, Drupal |
| 21:47.19 | lewis2 | Hessophanes: with woody, it says 'using keyboard interactive authentication' (or similar), after typing the username. with etch, you don't get it. |
| 21:47.21 | abrotman | quiet: file a wishlist bug ? |
| 21:47.22 | lewis2 | just curious. |
| 21:47.27 | quiet | abrotman, okay. :) |
| 21:47.28 | petemc | karma: look in dmesg |
| 21:47.30 | abrotman | karma: fdisk -l /dev/hdb .. as root .. show anything? |
| 21:47.32 | zenbum | imho, soundcard support is confusing/broken in default etch install |
| 21:47.36 | User143 | I'm searching a program to format a compact flash in FAT 16 |
| 21:47.41 | abrotman | zenbum: why is that? |
| 21:47.47 | nvz | man I swear puffs with lotion are designed to make you need to use more tissues |
| 21:47.51 | abrotman | User143: mkfs.vfat |
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| 21:48.03 | abrotman | nvz: more addictive than crack! |
| 21:48.04 | karma | abrotman: nope... check dmesg |
| 21:48.05 | zenbum | abrotman: because sound doesn't work and it's not obvious why |
| 21:48.14 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: you speak from experience? |
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| 21:48.18 | abrotman | zenbum: so that makes it broken? |
| 21:48.26 | nvz | abrotman: its not that, they actually make your nose run causing you to need more |
| 21:48.35 | abrotman | zenbum: what's your kernel? are you running alsa? are you in the audio group? are your levels up? |
| 21:48.40 | abrotman | nvz: oh |
| 21:48.45 | zenbum | abrotman: at the very least, confusing.... from a newbie's perspective, broken |
| 21:48.45 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i don't use tissues |
| 21:48.51 | abrotman | zenbum: not everyone likes sound |
| 21:49.02 | Hessophanes | lewis2: Hm, has been dropped, it seems. But nothing to worry about. |
| 21:49.02 | Stromberg | curious that i couldnt find alsa with that synaptic installer |
| 21:49.03 | djp | is it always necessary to run alsaconf? when i installed alsa-base etc, my soundcard worked as soon as i rebooted my machine. |
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| 21:49.08 | lewis2 | ok - appreciated. |
| 21:49.17 | abrotman | djp: i don't think it is |
| 21:49.21 | nvz | abrotman: the lotion just makes matters worse.. I dont have any bad allergies.. but if you had plant allergies.. this lotion would probably really aggitate you |
| 21:49.28 | zenbum | abrotman: agreed.... can't that be decided in debconf? |
| 21:49.41 | abrotman | zenbum: dunno .. but anyways .. why doesn't your sound work? |
| 21:49.43 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 21:49.43 | dpkg | rumour has it, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 21:49.48 | abrotman | !alsa-checklist |
| 21:49.48 | dpkg | somebody said alsa-checklist was 1) run alsaconf 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
| 21:49.49 | quiet | abrotman, do i just send an email to bugs@debian.org with a subject of wishlist? |
| 21:49.50 | lewis2 | it seems that /var/run/motd is being deleted upon reboot - any ideas? |
| 21:50.02 | abrotman | quiet: you can use reportbug if you want most of the work done for you |
| 21:50.10 | zenbum | abrotman: my sound does work.... but it took a while to figure out how to make that happen |
| 21:50.11 | abrotman | quiet: but check the BTS first .. it may already be there |
| 21:50.11 | djp | abrotman, ok, thanks. so alsaconf is more of a troubleshooting util? |
| 21:50.22 | abrotman | djp: no .. it's to setup alsa |
| 21:50.24 | Hessophanes | quiet: The address for new bugs is submit@bugs.d.o, if you intend to file one. ;) |
| 21:50.32 | abrotman | but some sound cards are pretty basic |
| 21:51.21 | zenbum | abrotman: if a user selects "Desktop Environment" during install, it would be nice if the sound were properly configured |
| 21:51.27 | djp | abrotman, oh i see. i have an old soundblaster live! card i think. |
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| 21:51.32 | Stromberg | grrr still no sound - do i need to reboot?= |
| 21:51.56 | dogmeat | which deb package do i need to support gif file format with perl? |
| 21:52.13 | jazbo | zenbum, usually it works off the bat |
| 21:52.14 | Hessophanes | lewis2: Sure, /var/run is (nearly) emptied on reboot, /etc/init.d/bootclean is responsible. |
| 21:52.20 | dogmeat | tried a couple already, but didnt work |
| 21:52.28 | Stromberg | where can i see if my user is in the audio group? |
| 21:52.34 | lewis2 | ok cool |
| 21:52.40 | Stromberg | sry but im pretty new to this stuff |
| 21:52.42 | zenbum | jazbo: doesn't work with a SB Live card |
| 21:52.45 | lewis2 | I won't symlink to /var/run/motd, I'll just create one flat out. |
| 21:53.05 | abrotman | zenbum: you can file a wishlist bug .. somewhere .. wouldn't actually know where to do that or rather .. on which package |
| 21:53.05 | strider | Stromberg: groups |
| 21:53.09 | Hessophanes | Stromberg: 'id' |
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| 21:53.25 | abrotman | Stromberg: groups |
| 21:53.41 | zenbum | abrotman: my wishlist would be: make debian install more like ubuntu ;-) |
| 21:53.43 | abrotman | Stromberg: if you just added yourself to the audio group .. you'll have to logout/login |
| 21:53.44 | Stromberg | /etc/group ? |
| 21:53.53 | abrotman | zenbum: thier response would be "Go use ubuntu" |
| 21:54.01 | abrotman | Stromberg: groups is a command |
| 21:54.03 | zenbum | abrotman: heh... fair enough |
| 21:54.09 | Stromberg | oooh sry :) |
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| 21:54.36 | Stromberg | i am in audio |
| 21:54.38 | Stromberg | weird |
| 21:55.00 | BillGates | is there some gui tool to control wifi card? |
| 21:55.22 | blondie | BillGates: WTF are you doing in here? |
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| 21:55.55 | blondie | BillGates: but you own MS! |
| 21:56.04 | BillGates | F it :) |
| 21:56.05 | Thrawn | Hey. I'm trying to use backports.org for Debian Stable with this line in sources.list: deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main ; Every package I try to install (ie: libapache-mod-php5) it says that it is "not available, but is referred to by another package". Any Ideas? I've done an apt-get update; even removed all other sources. |
| 21:56.06 | Spudchat | kwifimanager on sarge works for me |
| 21:56.11 | nvz | blondie: stealking ideas for finalizing vista |
| 21:56.26 | blondie | ahhh |
| 21:56.30 | abrotman | Stromberg: did you logout/in after adding yourself to the group? |
| 21:56.34 | nvz | blondie: making sure they havent overlooked anything |
| 21:56.36 | Stromberg | i didnt need to add |
| 21:56.42 | Stromberg | i was already in |
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| 21:57.09 | BillGates | Spudchat> thanks! |
| 21:57.11 | Stromberg | well im gonna do the windows trick... |
| 21:57.13 | Stromberg | reboot! |
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| 21:57.39 | TeXX | Hi, can anybody help me. I want any application, which make an IRC server on My Debian machine, something like IRCd for Windows |
| 21:57.44 | strider | Stromberg: no |
| 21:57.53 | abrotman | bah .. let him :) |
| 21:57.59 | abrotman | if it makes him feel better :) |
| 21:58.04 | buht-w | hello, i have a question. would 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller refer to a setting of PCI:0:01:0 during the configuration of xserver-xorg? |
| 21:58.14 | ioerror | Has anyone in here created a debian chroot on suse before? |
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| 21:58.37 | Daedalus_ | buht-w: looks right to me |
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| 21:59.15 | lewis2 | anyone know about disabling IPv6, and 'IPv6 over IPv4 tunnelling'? |
| 21:59.41 | Daedalus_ | lewis2: you uncheck the boxes in the kernel configuration... |
| 21:59.44 | abrotman | !blacklist |
| 21:59.44 | dpkg | i heard blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 21:59.48 | lewis2 | module wise? |
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| 21:59.57 | lewis2 | i.e. without changing kernels |
| 21:59.58 | kronoz | has anyone ever managed to gnomad2 to work properly on debian? |
| 22:00.20 | nvz | that never gets old.. xserver crashing when you are trying to work |
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| 22:00.30 | SerajewelKS | strider: http://kororaa.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4056 |
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| 22:00.37 | buht-w | Daedalus_, k damn. pci alignment errors when starting X :( i dont think the matrox parhelia works with the testing builds |
| 22:00.48 | SerajewelKS | strider: i swear this forum admin sits in front of his computer 24/7 refreshing every 10 minutes |
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| 22:01.08 | nvz | well looks like my cd is still burning, but k3b is dead |
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| 22:01.19 | strider | SerajewelKS: haha |
| 22:01.24 | MrFaber | Hi, has anyone experiences with adding own modes in xorg.conf? |
| 22:01.26 | nvz | I wonder if that means it will be a coaster |
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| 22:01.46 | Daedalus_ | nvz: wait and find out :) |
| 22:01.46 | cybermike | after apt-get'ing php-fpdf how do i get php4-apache2 to use it? |
| 22:01.49 | nvz | cdrecord is still alive.. so it may be fine |
| 22:01.56 | MrFaber | something like: |
| 22:01.58 | MrFaber | Mode "1366x768" |
| 22:01.58 | MrFaber | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.02 | MrFaber | .. |
| 22:02.04 | leaveone | how do i change from the graphical login to the command line.. so i can update my nvidia drivers.. editing my /etc/inittab wont work |
| 22:02.28 | Daedalus_ | leaveone:ctrl+alt+F1 |
| 22:02.51 | Daedalus_ | leaveone: ctrl+alt+F7 to get you back |
| 22:02.58 | bucky | leaveone: and then /etc/init.d/xdm stop |
| 22:03.05 | bucky | or whatever dm your using |
| 22:03.19 | leaveone | is that a command i need to run? |
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| 22:03.28 | leaveone | i think its gdm.. by default |
| 22:03.29 | Spudchat | does anyone know of an aim server? i found some for jabber, but id prefer aim |
| 22:03.32 | nvz | the ctrl... is pointless just needs to /etc/init.d/[x|g|w|k]dm stop and then start it back up when he's done |
| 22:03.43 | bucky | nvidia will want X to be stopped to install a new driver |
| 22:03.46 | Stromberg | still no sound... what was that command again for the workarounds? |
| 22:04.00 | Stromberg | !alsa |
| 22:04.00 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 22:04.20 | karma | ok... so i found the second drive. It is hdc and I created a partition with fdisk with 83 linux filetype, so that the right filetype? |
| 22:04.26 | abrotman | !alsa-checklist |
| 22:04.26 | dpkg | methinks alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
| 22:04.27 | Daedalus_ | leaveone: ok. concensus seems to be : open a terminal. execute /etc/init.d/gdm stop as root |
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| 22:04.42 | abrotman | Stromberg: does sound work for root? |
| 22:05.00 | Hessophanes | karma: yep |
| 22:05.22 | Stromberg | mmmh how can start sth with sound with root |
| 22:05.27 | nvz | yep thats a coaster.. well I am not using k3b any more.. cant afford that |
| 22:05.28 | leaveone | after ive logged in via the graphical login.. i run that command as root and it will put me at a command prompt? |
| 22:05.31 | karma | what do i use to mount it... mount -t ? /dev/hdc1 /bkps |
| 22:05.36 | Stromberg | su and xmms gives ** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display |
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| 22:05.50 | Hessophanes | karma: First you'll have to create a filesystem in your new partition. |
| 22:06.03 | Daedalus_ | leaveone: probably at a command line login |
| 22:06.12 | abrotman | Stromberg: try the cat ..... thing in that factoid |
| 22:06.33 | leaveone | ok.. i think i got it.. ill let ya know how it goes.. but i cant try it till later tonight |
| 22:06.34 | Daedalus_ | stromberg: why do you need to run that as root? |
| 22:06.46 | bucky | leaveone: Ctl+Alt+F1 will bring you to a login prompt |
| 22:06.47 | Stromberg | coz i was told to try :) |
| 22:06.48 | abrotman | Daedalus_: to see if sound works for root .. a permissions issue |
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| 22:07.00 | Daedalus_ | abrotman: ah |
| 22:07.03 | leaveone | thanks everyone! |
| 22:07.04 | Stromberg | but i dunno cat or factoid |
| 22:07.05 | karma | Hessophanes: I though the filesystem was ID 83 Linux? |
| 22:07.12 | abrotman | `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` |
| 22:07.18 | Hessophanes | karma: No, that's only the partition type. |
| 22:07.27 | Hessophanes | karma: What do you plan to use - ext2? reiser? |
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| 22:07.36 | Stromberg | now i have > ? |
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| 22:08.13 | karma | Hessphanes: I am guessing ext2, I have not used reiser before... what are the differences? |
| 22:09.02 | Stromberg | abrotman, worked now but no sound with root too |
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| 22:09.11 | Stromberg | i read i should uninstall OSS, how do i do that? |
| 22:09.14 | Hessophanes | !reiserfs |
| 22:09.14 | dpkg | i guess reiserfs is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See ext3, xfs, or jfs for safer filesystems. |
| 22:09.15 | abrotman | Stromberg: huh ? |
| 22:09.35 | Stromberg | i ran xmms with root |
| 22:09.38 | Stromberg | but still no sound |
| 22:10.01 | karma | Hessophanes: ok...ext2 it is |
| 22:10.04 | abrotman | Stromberg: paste your `lspci` in #flood |
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| 22:10.35 | pollywog | Mar 17 22:01:04 lilypad kernel: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 202.xxx.xxx.xxx:44026/25 shrinks window 619969453:619969510. Repaired. |
| 22:10.42 | pollywog | what does that mean? |
| 22:10.46 | pollywog | anyone know? |
| 22:10.47 | Hessophanes | karma: Then it's 'mkfs.ext2 /dev/hdc1'. If you add the '-j' flag, you'll get an ext3 FS (which is ext2 with an included journal). |
| 22:10.53 | pollywog | it is in my logs |
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| 22:11.24 | karma | Hessophanes: thanks... check that out now |
| 22:11.50 | abrotman | Stromberg: if you run alsaconf .. what happens ? |
| 22:12.05 | Stromberg | it runs |
| 22:12.17 | abrotman | and says what? |
| 22:12.23 | Stromberg | wait im running it again |
| 22:12.57 | Stromberg | my soundbox even tickers a bit while running it |
| 22:13.09 | Stromberg | see #flood |
| 22:13.52 | caffei | pollywog, it's pretty much just a debug message. Refer to the kernel source; linux/net/ipv4/tcp_timer.c |
| 22:14.00 | CoolCubix_ | Please, I can't find a way to make my microphone work, could someone help me ? |
| 22:14.04 | pollywog | oic thanks |
| 22:14.15 | pollywog | I thought someone was up to some tricks |
| 22:14.36 | Stromberg | on this debian help page is: |
| 22:14.37 | Stromberg | Blacklist the OSS driver by removing it from /etc/modules and adding skip drivername to /etc/discover.conf and drivername to /etc/hotplug/blacklist. |
| 22:14.40 | Stromberg | should i do this? |
| 22:14.53 | Estes2 | Anyone knows a "money proof" linux distribution ? |
| 22:14.56 | Estes2 | no |
| 22:15.01 | Estes2 | bad typo |
| 22:15.03 | pollywog | Estes what do you mean? |
| 22:15.04 | Estes2 | Anyone knows a "monkey proof" linux distribution ? |
| 22:15.08 | pollywog | oh |
| 22:15.13 | Estes2 | :D |
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| 22:15.17 | Stromberg | man i dont understand this... on fedora i had no problems at all with sound... its the same driver here isnt it? |
| 22:15.18 | pollywog | Xandros or Linspire |
| 22:15.19 | rrdf | ubuntu ;) |
| 22:15.35 | zOap | Windows |
| 22:15.39 | abrotman | Stromberg: so use alsamixer .. raise the levels |
| 22:15.42 | Stromberg | i did |
| 22:15.45 | pollywog | windows is not monkey proof |
| 22:15.45 | Stromberg | all to top |
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| 22:15.56 | abrotman | Estes2: debian |
| 22:16.01 | Estes2 | By monkey proof i mean, if something in the install goes wrong, having a way to fix it that a monkey could do |
| 22:16.09 | zOap | Oh, I think you said you were a monkey, and you needed.. oh, never mind :P |
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| 22:16.17 | rrdf | windows.. |
| 22:16.23 | Estes2 | abrotman, give a debian cd to a windows user.... |
| 22:16.24 | pollywog | oh then nevermind Xandros and Linspire |
| 22:16.24 | Coweater | Estes2: no such thing, that's why machine come pre-installed... |
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| 22:16.48 | zenbum | Estes2: better yet, how about an install that doesn't go wrong? |
| 22:16.56 | abrotman | Estes2: i don't see a problem with that |
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| 22:17.01 | rrdf | anyone an idea on how to make xfce4 the default display manager at debian boot? |
| 22:17.04 | pollywog | because if you do break them they are not easy to fix, unless you reinstall |
| 22:17.09 | abrotman | Estes2: you can't assume a windows user can't install debian |
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| 22:17.29 | pollywog | Debian is not easy to install if one is new to Linux |
| 22:17.37 | Estes2 | abrotman, ok, someone that never has touched a computer |
| 22:17.40 | Coweater | it's not any harder than anything else |
| 22:17.43 | rrdf | I found default-display-manager file.. but what do I enter for xfce4 instead of X? |
| 22:17.49 | pollywog | yes it is harder than some |
| 22:18.10 | rrdf | yes it is ;) |
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| 22:18.12 | zenbum | if you think debian is hard to install, try openbsd sometime |
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| 22:18.15 | karma | ok... new drive is mounted. :) thanks for the help. Next questions, being able to ssh as root is a security risk? right? if so, how do I turn it off. |
| 22:18.17 | Zrin | Estes2: i wasted 3 hours before finding out that i need acpi=off for 2.6 kernel, while 2.4 kernel did well without it |
| 22:18.22 | abrotman | Estes2: then they won't know that debian is more or less difficult than anything else |
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| 22:18.37 | Spudchat | karma: /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 22:18.38 | Hessophanes | karma: /etc/ssh/sshd_config, PermitRootLogin no. |
| 22:18.42 | zOap | You have no guarantee for such a thing. No matter what filesystem, kernel or system. All you can do is learn your tools well enough to minimize such errors. Oh, and a system which is not bloated or filled up with viruses or worms is always a good hand to bet on.. |
| 22:18.46 | Zrin | Estes2: so ... it depends on the hardware as well |
| 22:18.50 | Red_Cloud | Does anyone here use the fusion login on their etch? |
| 22:18.55 | karma | Spudchat: thanks |
| 22:19.01 | pollywog | like when I could not start KDE last night after installing a new Debian system |
| 22:19.04 | Estes2 | abrotman, then, they certainly won't succeed installing, it's like knowing you need a swap for wexample |
| 22:19.10 | pollywog | a newbie would not have known what to do |
| 22:19.11 | Coweater | rrdf: that file is used to select a display manager, not a window manager |
| 22:19.18 | zenbum | ubuntu, suse, fedora are usually easy for newbs to install |
| 22:19.26 | pollywog | I got it to work eventually but it was a pain |
| 22:19.43 | abrotman | Estes2: have you actually used the installer? .. if you hit enter 16 times or some crap .. it will format the whole drive .. give you swap .. and reboot the machin |
| 22:19.44 | rrdf | also wehn I start into X or xfce4.. there is no internet connection.. only in Linux single user mode ?! |
| 22:19.49 | pollywog | but Linspire and Xandros install easily in a few minutes |
| 22:19.53 | nvz | no pain, no gain |
| 22:19.55 | Estes2 | btw, why debian doesn't have a graphical installer like those ? No ressources to develop it or politic ? |
| 22:19.58 | bucky | rrdf: is xfce4 listed when you do the command update-alternatives --list x-session-manager |
| 22:19.59 | abrotman | it does |
| 22:20.00 | abrotman | wtf |
| 22:20.07 | abrotman | stupid people who can't fucking rad |
| 22:20.08 | abrotman | read |
| 22:20.10 | abrotman | or spell!!!!!!!!! |
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| 22:20.17 | Coweater | a graphical installer doesn't help anything |
| 22:20.26 | Coweater | it's not any harder or easier |
| 22:20.29 | abrotman | but it looks pretty! |
| 22:20.31 | pollywog | the thing I like about Debian is I can customize it |
| 22:20.45 | pollywog | those others I mentioned are resistant to change |
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| 22:20.54 | CoolCubix_ | Coweater: i first lost me when partitioning my HDD with text-mode installer |
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| 22:21.00 | linuxboyfriend | hi all |
| 22:21.02 | Zrin | Estes2: can your user answer the question if his hardware clock is (to be) set to UTC? |
| 22:21.06 | Estes2 | abrotman, didn't know this about this installer, i use it only once upon a time, i never have to reinstall :P |
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| 22:21.17 | linuxboyfriend | what option should i give to apt-get so that if any thing fails to download, apt automatically retry to download it? |
| 22:21.18 | Fluten | is it possible to disable the tap clicking on a touchpad? |
| 22:21.20 | zOap | I always install debian clean. And then install the packages I NEED, not the packages the distro think I need.. |
| 22:21.21 | abrotman | Estes2: the sarge installer is pretty darn good .. |
| 22:21.22 | rrdf | I`ll do it just a moment bucky |
| 22:21.24 | Estes2 | Zrin, who's question ? |
| 22:21.25 | bucky | rrdf: you can usually just run /usr/bin/xfce4_setup |
| 22:21.31 | Estes2 | abrotman, yes, it is |
| 22:21.34 | Zrin | Estes2: installer's |
| 22:21.38 | pollywog | Debian has come a long way with the installer, for sure |
| 22:21.39 | zenbum | zOap: yes, agreed |
| 22:21.39 | bucky | rrdf: as user |
| 22:21.54 | Estes2 | Zrin, i speak about a theorical user |
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| 22:22.08 | Zrin | Estes2: i know, i mean that theoretical user |
| 22:22.11 | Estes2 | so, by default a moron, since i say monkey proof |
| 22:22.17 | linuxboyfriend | can anyone tell me ehat will be my options |
| 22:22.25 | bucky | !moron monkey proof |
| 22:22.26 | dpkg | monkey proof: You are moron #74 |
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| 22:22.31 | zenbum | abrotman: somehow i get the impression that your idea of a good interface is toggle switches and LEDs ;-) |
| 22:22.31 | nvz | Estes2: careful what you say or you might be hearing from his theoretical lawyer |
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| 22:22.35 | Estes2 | Zrin, deduce "What is UTC?" |
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| 22:22.37 | Estes2 | :) |
| 22:22.46 | Estes2 | nvz, lol :) |
| 22:22.47 | abrotman | zenbum: i see no reason that anyone *needs* some fancy gui |
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| 22:23.01 | Zrin | Estes2: but installing isn't everything ... that user might try the rm command afterwards |
| 22:23.02 | abrotman | zenbum: certainly not to install .. given that winXP still starts its installer in a DOS looking shell |
| 22:23.04 | pollywog | well we don't need pictures |
| 22:23.08 | zenbum | abrotman: nobody needs it... but eye candy is fun |
| 22:23.12 | Zrin | Estes2: :)) |
| 22:23.24 | Coweater | a gui doesn't make things inherently better, in most cases the same things can be relayed in plain text and it's much more foolproof in the case of an installer |
| 22:23.30 | abrotman | thank god AMD makes these dual core CPUs .. now we can all run KDE with full eye candy! |
| 22:23.42 | zOap | abrotman, I would love to agree with you. But somehow I can't imagine a graphical designer without a gui :) |
| 22:23.43 | rrdf | so I have to run xfce4_setup.. there I can choose as default? |
| 22:23.45 | ioerror | I think if anything, most people never see the windows installer. When people install another os and they see ncurses or something like it, they may be put off |
| 22:23.57 | CoolCubix_ | beginners are kinda disappointed in front of a text-mode machine |
| 22:23.59 | abrotman | zOap: what do you need to design a GUI for? :) |
| 22:24.02 | zenbum | abrotman: heh.... eye candy has kept the hardware industry afloat |
| 22:24.09 | zOap | abrotman, haha |
| 22:24.10 | abrotman | zenbum: and video games ... |
| 22:24.26 | Zrin | CoolCubix_: text mode may look very powerfull as well |
| 22:24.44 | bucky | rrdf: if you don't have /usr/bin/xfce4_setup then you don't have xfce4 installed |
| 22:24.47 | zenbum | abrotman: oh yeah, i forgot about FPS games with realistic blood and gore |
| 22:25.02 | Zrin | CoolCubix_: like matrix ... running text streams ;) |
| 22:25.24 | Coweater | porn keeps the hardware industry afloat |
| 22:25.25 | Estes2 | I was just thinking about why linux isn't over windows yet, spreaded wise i mean, It's a way better system, so why people don't switch and how we can do something about it, more users mean we'd have scanner drivers for example for "all" scanners... |
| 22:25.40 | abrotman | Coweater: no .. that keeps Sony and thier Blu-Ray afloat :) |
| 22:25.47 | Zrin | Estes2: perhaps because it's unix? |
| 22:25.56 | zOap | Zrin, only the MATRIX view is more designed than any other app I'll ever see:) |
| 22:25.56 | Coweater | i'm always buying hard drives though |
| 22:26.17 | unix_infidel | i wish i could keep a little box of matrix code running in a borderless window on my desktop. |
| 22:26.25 | unix_infidel | i'd gladly waste cpu cycles for that :) |
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| 22:26.58 | Estes2 | Zrin, doesn't mean anything, if unix was more monkey proof (I include pseudo admins that only know windows and don't wish to move) people would switch, linux is free |
| 22:27.12 | zenbum | Estes2: drivers will always be an issue for linux.... many manufacturers don't want outsiders reverse engineering their gizmos |
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| 22:27.24 | unix_infidel | lol, if anyone knows anyway i can do the above, i'm open to ideas. |
| 22:27.32 | Zrin | Estes2: unix wasn't created to be monkey proof |
| 22:27.41 | Estes2 | zenbum, they would make linux drivers if LOTS of people were switching to linux |
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| 22:27.52 | Estes2 | Zrin, see MACOSX |
| 22:28.09 | dadexter | hey unix_infidel |
| 22:28.12 | zenbum | Estes2: perhaps they would make drivers.... but they would be binary not open source |
| 22:28.18 | JaVaSan | good evening |
| 22:28.22 | unix_infidel | hola. |
| 22:28.26 | Estes2 | zenbum, they at least would exist |
| 22:28.30 | dadexter | unix_infidel, I'm baaaaaaaaaaack lol |
| 22:28.34 | Zrin | Estes2: good point, I didn't have time to try it |
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| 22:29.10 | Estes2 | KDE is by far more usable than windows |
| 22:29.10 | abrotman | unix_infidel: talk to SGI |
| 22:29.10 | zenbum | Estes2: that platform already exists.... it's called mac osx |
| 22:29.20 | rrdf | I did update-alterntives --list... just went to next prompt nothing showing.. |
| 22:29.22 | Estes2 | zenbum, what am i told ? |
| 22:29.24 | Estes2 | :) |
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| 22:29.33 | Estes2 | but macosX is not free |
| 22:29.35 | Zrin | Estes2: prehaps they didn't have much choice when choosing basis for the OS anyway |
| 22:29.36 | mmiikkee12 | yay, i finally got debian installed |
| 22:29.41 | bucky | zenbum: monkey proof unix ? |
| 22:29.53 | epsilon | lol |
| 22:29.54 | rrdf | I did xfce4_setup saying for root its okai... is it now default GUI? |
| 22:29.54 | mmiikkee12 | but x crashed and i wound up reinstalling trying to fix it :s |
| 22:30.01 | zenbum | Estes2: linux with lots of proprietary drivers wouldn't be free either |
| 22:30.02 | mmiikkee12 | now |
| 22:30.06 | Zrin | Estes2: best OS without software you can run on it is not much worth |
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| 22:30.15 | bucky | rrdf: do it as user |
| 22:30.29 | mmiikkee12 | what do i apt-get install to get xfce? |
| 22:30.35 | Coweater | xfce4 |
| 22:30.37 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: apt-cache search xfce |
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| 22:30.47 | mmiikkee12 | will that get an x server also? |
| 22:30.55 | Estes2 | Zrin, there's plenty of software on linux |
| 22:30.56 | epsilon | maybe |
| 22:30.58 | nvz | Zrin: like WouldBeOS? Would be and OS if there was software that ran on it? |
| 22:31.01 | Zrin | Estes2: and porting old apps to OSX is all but trivial |
| 22:31.02 | abrotman | !tell mmiikkee12 about search |
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| 22:31.03 | zOap | well, I just finished seing resident evil.. I can't overcome how bad that movie is.. Now there is 2 hours I'll never get back(and the previous two hours I used to watch it when it first came out) *shrug* |
| 22:31.04 | abrotman | !tell mmiikkee12 about set up x |
| 22:31.06 | epsilon | check the dependencies |
| 22:31.31 | Hessophanes | unix_infidel: => cmatrix package? :) |
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| 22:31.44 | Estes2 | zenbum, i think this can be moved somehow, they still will be selling the hardware. If LOTS of people move, they will adapt or die, as everything |
| 22:31.47 | unix_infidel | Hessophanes: cmatrix? |
| 22:32.07 | rrdf | thanks a lot it worked bucky..did it as user also.. maybe as root wasnt so good |
| 22:32.26 | Hessophanes | unix_infidel: You wanted a little window with scrolling matrix code...? |
| 22:32.28 | bucky | rrdf: i did tell you that before ^^ |
| 22:32.30 | Estes2 | Zrin, out of macOS X KDE for example is very eaqsy to adapt to when one comes from windows |
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| 22:33.08 | zenbum | Estes2: perhaps.... that will prolly happen in the next few years as linux gains on the desktop |
| 22:33.09 | unix_infidel | Hessophanes: lol, nice, something wit hactual matrix glyphs instead of just random unicode. |
| 22:33.09 | abrotman | what channel is this? |
| 22:33.09 | unix_infidel | although that is pretty coo. |
| 22:33.09 | bnoji | So, the China content filters are kinda lax. |
| 22:33.09 | rrdf | I now have a Sun Blade 100 64bit Kernel running with XFCE4 and Sun Keyboard working at last and a optical mouse |
| 22:33.09 | Zrin | Estes2: I think the way to linux desktops leads over ported linux apps for win. once these get ground, linux can move in ... like openoffice |
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| 22:33.09 | bnoji | People say they are so strict, but they dont filter out much |
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| 22:33.34 | bucky | rrdf: if you ever need a monkey proof unix.. talk to zenbum |
| 22:33.57 | rrdf | ? |
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| 22:34.04 | zenbum | bucky: ? |
| 22:34.08 | Estes2 | zenbum, as long people think it's complicated to read a documentation and as long you don't have a GUI to administrate your whole machine, monkeys won't move, so we will gain a less on desktop if nothing is done this way, it'll simply stabilise |
| 22:34.09 | bucky | he's advocating mac |
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| 22:34.29 | ftp3 | i am having a hard time mounting my dvd player.. I did "cat /proc/partitions" but I am not really sure which of those is the dvd (if any) |
| 22:34.36 | karma | wo hoo... got my highmem working :) MemTotal: 2060764 kB |
| 22:34.37 | rrdf | who me? |
| 22:34.47 | bucky | that's all i want... proprietary software on proprietary hardware.. because i'm a monkey |
| 22:34.49 | zenbum | bucky: i don't recall advocating mac... just for the record, i prefer debian |
| 22:34.55 | Hessophanes | ftp3: /proc/partitions lists supported file systems, not drives. |
| 22:34.57 | Estes2 | ... without counting this HUGE amount of website that display videos in wmv is such |
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| 22:35.02 | Russel | hiho |
| 22:35.20 | bucky | the dairy oh? |
| 22:35.22 | Russel | i have a problem with apt: is it possible to remove a package with a broken deinstall skript? |
| 22:35.29 | bucky | !moo |
| 22:35.29 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 22:35.33 | Russel | or just comment it out in some list? |
| 22:35.37 | abrotman | Russel: what's broken about it ? |
| 22:35.49 | ftp3 | hessophanes, oh, well how do I find the drive? |
| 22:35.50 | Zrin | Estes2: I'm evaluating lx-office at the moment, an open source ERP running on PostgreSQL ... it's a üitty it lacks on-line documentation and the user interface is somewhat messy. I think that's typical for alot of linux and open source apps... |
| 22:35.54 | Russel | post removal skript throws an error |
| 22:36.09 | Hessophanes | ftp3: What kernel (2.4 / 2.6)? Regular IDE dvd drive? |
| 22:36.12 | Russel | so everything stops and this package blocks the whole upgrade |
| 22:36.16 | bucky | Zrin: i've never heard of lx-office |
| 22:36.30 | Zrin | bucky: www.lx-office.org |
| 22:36.40 | zenbum | Estes2: most people use windows because: a) it came bundled with their system, b) they need to use Word/Excel ... linux could easily overcome those hurdles in the next few years |
| 22:36.41 | abrotman | Russel: errors are helpful to us |
| 22:36.50 | mmiikkee12 | ooh, this isn't good. |
| 22:36.56 | mmiikkee12 | something crashed, badly |
| 22:36.57 | ftp3 | hessophanes: 2.6 and its a normal ide dvd drive |
| 22:36.59 | Russel | this is a ubuntu package and the system is quite a mess, so error will not help |
| 22:37.02 | Zrin | bucky: german / europen, has englich interface as well |
| 22:37.05 | abrotman | Russel: #ubuntu please |
| 22:37.07 | Russel | i just want an answer to my question |
| 22:37.15 | mmiikkee12 | how do i copy an entire file into a text field in links? |
| 22:37.16 | Russel | it is a apt/dpkg question |
| 22:37.21 | bucky | Zrin: wow.. i found the docs! http://www.lx-office.org/index.php?id=dokumentation |
| 22:37.22 | Russel | now package thing |
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| 22:37.32 | dadexter | wow, am I in #ubuntu again? |
| 22:37.34 | zOap | Personally I hope the monkeys stay were they are. If the monkeys move to Linux or any other 'nix, it'll be the end of the environment we know. We can allready see the future in wms like gnome and kde.. Stupidity is in, gui's are created for the smallest tasks.. I don't want that. Fortunately debian isn't at the top of the list, I hope... Hopefully the monkeys will take over redhat and take it down with them.. wishthinking:) |
| 22:37.40 | Estes2 | zenbum, c) apps that they can get in shops (like games and such) are running on windo~1 |
| 22:37.56 | Hessophanes | ftp3: Ok - check /proc/filesystems for udf and iso9660... |
| 22:38.04 | bucky | dadexter: does this look like #ubuntu? |
| 22:38.05 | Zrin | bucky: the docs are detached from the app, there is no context help / integrated docs |
| 22:38.20 | dadexter | bucky, well I'm not sure... I'm seeing ubuntu questions |
| 22:38.32 | Hessophanes | ftp3: ... and then try to mount. The dvd drive should show up as /dev/hda - /dev/hdd, along with your IDE harddisks. |
| 22:38.33 | karma | ok...next question: I have a few dedicated server and there is something that I may be doing wrong on a couple of them... they seem to grab all the memory: Mem: 223660K total, 200412K used, 23248K free... the new server with 2Gig of RAM that is a fresh install is not like that. Any ideas on what could be happening? |
| 22:38.34 | bucky | Zrin: typical of not very mature software |
| 22:38.46 | Russel | ok my question is: if a remove fails (because of errors in the skript) can i let apt think the package isn't there? |
| 22:38.51 | Zrin | bucky: combined with somewhat cryptic UI it is a problem ... yes, it is |
| 22:38.56 | Estes2 | zenbum, seen a nice GUI that makes easy to install without reading documentation a graphical card driver to run 3D games and such ? .... and think about ATI cards :) |
| 22:39.05 | zenbum | Estes2: yeah, agreed.... so go write a killer game for linux ;-) |
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| 22:39.13 | bucky | Zrin: anything written by germans is cryptic |
| 22:39.17 | rrdf | when I start debian normally.. with xfce4 now I dont have my IP setting.. their lost.. only in single user mode I can use apt per internet, any help? |
| 22:39.19 | Estes2 | zenbum, the problem is not the game |
| 22:39.32 | Zrin | bucky: well :) i didn't know that |
| 22:39.33 | mmiikkee12 | how can i paste a huge logfile into pastebin in links from the command line? |
| 22:39.37 | Russel | any list where apt stores the installed packages? |
| 22:39.38 | Estes2 | zenbum, the problem is first to configure easily the machine to run the game |
| 22:40.16 | zenbum | Estes2: chicken and egg problem.... write the game everyone wants, the rest will follow |
| 22:40.17 | Estes2 | This is what i would write i think if i had time |
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| 22:40.19 | zOap | mmiikkee12, select the text in term and paste it... with left and right button. |
| 22:40.29 | Hessophanes | karma: 2Gig Ram, but "Mem 223660K total"? |
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| 22:40.32 | jshoenberger | What's a command that can strip a series of symbols from text input? I need it to strip "< ./" |
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| 22:40.35 | Estes2 | zenbum, there's already 3D games on linux |
| 22:40.49 | mmiikkee12 | zOap: i'm in an 80x25 terminal and the file is over 600 lines :s |
| 22:40.49 | ftp3 | hessophanes: this is my /proc/filesystems.. http://pastebin.com/608211 |
| 22:41.03 | Estes2 | and an other problem also, good apps on linux are often ported to windows... |
| 22:41.05 | ftp3 | hessophanes: i do not see a hda, etc |
| 22:41.07 | bucky | rrdf: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-net-dhcp |
| 22:41.11 | Surferdude | anyone here know if the apache-ssl package includes mod_auth by default? |
| 22:41.15 | unix_infidel | Hessophanes: are there any other packages like cmatrix with actual glyphs? |
| 22:41.18 | karma | Hessophanes: that is a paste from one of the old servers that is grabbing all the memeoy here is the new server: Mem: 2060764k total, 73804k used, 1986960k free |
| 22:41.23 | zenbum | Estes2: maybe it's better if linux remains a niche market for geeks |
| 22:41.27 | rrdf | I dont wanna use dhcp ;( |
| 22:41.32 | mmiikkee12 | hmm |
| 22:41.44 | Estes2 | zenbum, right... i move to plan9 :) |
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| 22:41.49 | zOap | mmiikkee12, well, first start the term with more than 6000 lines memory. then repeat what I said. |
| 22:41.52 | Hessophanes | ftp3: Ok, iso is there, udf isn't... we'll see. Do you know to which IDE controller your DVD drive is attached? |
| 22:42.02 | rrdf | I set fix IP at install.. only at normal boot, since I installed X and xfce there is no internet connection no IP |
| 22:42.06 | Hessophanes | unix_infidel: There's even an cmatrix-xfont package, but I haven't looked into it... |
| 22:42.11 | ftp3 | hessophanes: secondary |
| 22:42.22 | zenbum | Estes2: if linux becomes popular, microsoft will just buy it ;-) |
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| 22:42.37 | Coweater | you can't buy it... |
| 22:42.42 | dadexter | you're joking right? |
| 22:42.43 | rrdf | yeah.. |
| 22:42.45 | Estes2 | zenbum, they can't and if they do it some day, i move to freebsd |
| 22:42.45 | bucky | rrdf: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-net-dhcp |
| 22:42.49 | Russel | nobody an answer? or is everybody ignoring be because i asked a "ubuntu" question? |
| 22:42.54 | unix_infidel | Hessophanes: cmatrix-xfont package is just xfonts.... |
| 22:43.03 | unix_infidel | not actual glyphs from whati ssee. |
| 22:43.05 | zOap | Russel, go to #ubuntu |
| 22:43.15 | Hessophanes | karma: Ah, I see, my fault. - Where's that output from? Cut&paste from 'top'? |
| 22:43.16 | bucky | Russel: is no one in #ubuntu? |
| 22:43.19 | Estes2 | zenbum, and i don't thin i'd be alone doing this |
| 22:43.22 | mmiikkee12 | zOap: i'm not in x |
| 22:43.23 | zenbum | microsoft has their evil ways.... they'll just patent the fork system call ;-) |
| 22:43.24 | Estes2 | think * |
| 22:43.26 | Russel | zOap, it is not ubuntu relatet, it is apt relatet |
| 22:43.34 | Estes2 | hehe |
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| 22:43.44 | zOap | Russel, then I'm sorry. I missed your question |
| 22:43.47 | Coweater | Russel: it's apt on ubuntu? |
| 22:43.49 | Hessophanes | ftp3: Ok, then it's hdc or hdd (master or slave on 2ndary IDE, respectively). What do you get if you try mount /dev/hdc /free/mount/point? |
| 22:43.58 | bucky | Russel: ubuntu has there on version of apt that doesn't have anything to do with ours |
| 22:43.58 | karma | Hessophanes: yes, from top |
| 22:44.06 | Eulex | Russel, and ubuntu uses a modified apt -- therefore it's an ubuntu question. |
| 22:44.22 | rrdf | and how do I change from dhcp to static? didnt find anything usefull until now |
| 22:44.23 | Russel | k, my question is: can i persuade apt, that there is a package not installed which is installed |
| 22:44.24 | Hessophanes | unix_infidel: Ah ok... hmmm. I couldn't find anything similar in the package list... |
| 22:44.25 | Estes2 | zenbum, we maybe would have ntfs support ? |
| 22:44.27 | Estes2 | :) |
| 22:44.36 | Eulex | Russel, equivs. |
| 22:44.36 | zenbum | Estes2 lol |
| 22:44.44 | Surferdude | anyone know anything about apache-ssl |
| 22:44.46 | Surferdude | ? |
| 22:44.51 | rrdf | why does ifconfig eth0 -dynamic work and -static doenst? ;) |
| 22:44.59 | Estes2 | Surferdude, why don't you ask your qustion ? |
| 22:44.59 | zOap | !anyone |
| 22:44.59 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 22:45.04 | Hessophanes | karma: What does 'free' say on these servers? |
| 22:45.04 | Surferdude | i already did |
| 22:45.17 | zenbum | does anyone use dpkg? |
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| 22:45.23 | bucky | rrdf: ifup reads the /etc/network/interface file |
| 22:45.36 | Surferdude | "does anyone know if apache-ssl has mod_auth installed by default" |
| 22:45.37 | zOap | zenbum, naah .) |
| 22:45.52 | bucky | rrdf: and you would know that if you would bother to read the docs i gave you the link to twice now |
| 22:45.54 | Russel | Eulex, sorry i am not so good in english |
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| 22:46.00 | Surferdude | i couldnt find anything in modules.conf |
| 22:46.02 | karma | Hessophanes: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2157 |
| 22:46.07 | Estes2 | Surferdude, just look if it's in modules.conf |
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| 22:46.09 | ftp3 | hessophanes: that worked, thanks |
| 22:46.28 | mmiikkee12 | anyway, X is crashing with some ***INVALID MEM ALLOCATION*** thing, which sounds bad. |
| 22:46.38 | Surferdude | its not there and i get an API error whenever i try to add it and run /etc/init.d/apache-ssl modules-reload |
| 22:46.39 | mmiikkee12 | i would paste a log but... |
| 22:46.46 | nzx | hey, how do i cange the way fn keys get handled in kde, on a sony laptop ? |
| 22:46.57 | Hessophanes | ftp3: np :) |
| 22:46.59 | Estes2 | mmiikkee12, pastebin |
| 22:47.15 | bucky | Surferdude: not sure about apache 1.3 and why would you use apache-ssl.. you don't want to use apache2 ? |
| 22:47.15 | Estes2 | !google pastebin |
| 22:47.19 | zenbum | i want gnome 2.14 in sid & i want it now! |
| 22:47.22 | dpkg | Google says pastebin is at http://pastebin.com/ or http://pastebin.com/?help=1 or http://pastebin.com/330893 or http://pastebin.com/398725 or http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 22:47.23 | karma | Hessophanes: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2158 |
| 22:47.27 | mmiikkee12 | Estes2: i can't figure out how to paste a 600 line file into pastebin |
| 22:47.36 | Estes2 | 600 ? |
| 22:47.39 | Estes2 | humm |
| 22:47.40 | rrdf | I AM reading your docs.. I read them already 5 times.. and last time I tried to change to fix ip at reboot it was not recognized |
| 22:47.42 | mmiikkee12 | Xorg.0.log |
| 22:47.47 | nvz | nzx: I have no idea. #debian-kde and #kde have many more kde users than #debian so it would help to join those as well and ask there in case nobody bites |
| 22:47.50 | Hessophanes | karma: Ah, there it is - look at the second line. Free: 2023308. |
| 22:47.52 | Estes2 | mmiikkee12, you have an httpd running ? |
| 22:47.52 | rrdf | I know the docs |
| 22:47.57 | mmiikkee12 | 639 lines |
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| 22:48.01 | mmiikkee12 | Estes2: no |
| 22:48.04 | Surferdude | i use apache-ssl because i dont want to bother having to install a bunch of crap just to serve one cgi script |
| 22:48.04 | Supaplex | !google it |
| 22:48.05 | nzx | nvz, thank you, i'm there already |
| 22:48.06 | greench | hello :) |
| 22:48.08 | dpkg | Google says it is at http://whatis.techtarget.com/ or http://www.itools.com/ or http://www.indo.com/distance/ or http://www.submit-it.com/ or http://www.itconversations.com/ |
| 22:48.10 | mmiikkee12 | freshly installed system |
| 22:48.18 | mmiikkee12 | !google google |
| 22:48.20 | Estes2 | mmiikkee12, a free hosting account somewhere ? |
| 22:48.20 | bucky | rrdf: well you're the big man with the sun blade server.. you can figure it out |
| 22:48.23 | dpkg | Google says google is at http://www.google.com/ or http://www.google.com/talk/ or http://www.google.com/language_tools or http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en or http://www.google.com/ig |
| 22:48.30 | Surferdude | is there such thing as an apache2-ssl? |
| 22:48.35 | bucky | no |
| 22:48.37 | mmiikkee12 | Estes2: no |
| 22:48.44 | rrdf | I got this sun blade as a present.. I didn`t buy it |
| 22:48.44 | Supaplex | apache-ssl sux, use mod_ssl |
| 22:48.46 | karma | Hessophanes: I think that is the server that is not yet grabbing all the RAM |
| 22:48.49 | Estes2 | mmiikkee12, proof is dome you should |
| 22:48.50 | mmiikkee12 | anyone know a site where i can just upload a text file |
| 22:48.51 | mmiikkee12 | ? |
| 22:49.00 | Estes2 | mmiikkee12, maybe pastebin will take your 600 lines after all |
| 22:49.02 | Supaplex | mmiikkee12: localhost ? pastebin ? |
| 22:49.06 | mmiikkee12 | Estes2: i know |
| 22:49.15 | mmiikkee12 | but i can't paste it all into pastebin |
| 22:49.23 | zenbum | question for the leet developers out there: how has the existence of ubuntu affected debian? good, bad, not at all? |
| 22:49.23 | mmiikkee12 | my terminal only holds 25 lines |
| 22:49.25 | Surferdude | despite it being old, it does everything i need it to do besides authentication |
| 22:49.28 | Estes2 | mmiikkee12, 300 + 300 ? |
| 22:49.43 | nvz | I was never real big on holidays.. mostly because I think we got too fucking many of em.. but whatever holiday you get servers for gifts, sounds good to me |
| 22:49.45 | zOap | mmiikkee12, are you in cli or a terminal emulator? |
| 22:49.45 | bucky | zenbum: not at all |
| 22:49.47 | greench | I ./configure fuse-2.5.2 and there`s an error *** Please specify the location of the kernel source with |
| 22:49.47 | greench | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.47 | greench | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.53 | nicolas_1 | zenbum: its probably good, since it removes the really newbies from this channel |
| 22:49.54 | mmiikkee12 | Estes2: pastebin *would* hold 600 lines. but i can't paste it into pastebin. |
| 22:49.58 | Surferdude | i really dont feel like upgrading, so can someone give me a clue of what I'm doing wrong |
| 22:50.01 | rrdf | is there no command for saving the ip after I use ifconfig eth0 192..... |
| 22:50.03 | Estes2 | mmiikkee12, what's your problem ? |
| 22:50.09 | mmiikkee12 | z0ap, no, /dev/tty0 |
| 22:50.20 | bucky | nicolas_1: i would hate to see what ubuntu's newbies are like if that is the case |
| 22:50.29 | mmiikkee12 | Estes2: i'm in a terminal and i can't select all 600 lines at once. |
| 22:50.30 | Russel | thanks for the help, going on the nerves of the ubuntu guys now |
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| 22:50.34 | rrdf | and also.. I`m the big man with the sun blade 100 that only has 64mb ecc ram you forgot |
| 22:50.34 | mmiikkee12 | (with gpm |
| 22:50.49 | Supaplex | bucky: we already know, they constantly harass us :) |
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| 22:50.58 | Hessophanes | karma: Ah, I guess it's too late for me already... ;) what does that second line say on the other, 220Meg RAM machines? |
| 22:51.02 | zenbum | has ubuntu's 6 month release schedule made it more likely that etch will release sooner? |
| 22:51.04 | bucky | rrdf: you don't know how to edit /etc/network/interfaces because you don't know how to read |
| 22:51.11 | Estes2 | zenbum, more pointless people coming into the chan.... "I got a question about ubuntu" |
| 22:51.21 | nvz | zenbum: who cares :P |
| 22:51.27 | Estes2 | mmiikkee12, no, i meant |
| 22:51.33 | zOap | zenbum, yeah, who cares:) |
| 22:51.34 | karma | Hessophanes: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2157 |
| 22:51.34 | bucky | zenbum: no |
| 22:51.36 | Supaplex | zenbum: we will release it when it's ready. |
| 22:51.43 | Estes2 | mmiikkee12, you certainly only need some of the last lines |
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| 22:51.51 | karma | Hessophanes: sorry wrong paste |
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| 22:51.56 | nvz | zenbum: historically debian releases when its ready. it usually takes a couple years 18-36months |
| 22:51.59 | bucky | zenbum: most people are already running etch anyways |
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| 22:52.02 | mmiikkee12 | Estes2: ok, trying, hang on |
| 22:52.08 | karma | Hessophanes: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2158 |
| 22:52.10 | rrdf | man, why do you think I`m here in this IRC?? Because I cant read? When I try things and they dont work.. I have to read again?? or again? |
| 22:52.15 | zenbum | ok... interesting |
| 22:52.15 | greench | ok and could someone help me :) pls |
| 22:52.25 | Spudchat | hi guys, im trying to install mysql5 from source, but during the configure i get checking for termcap functions library... configure: error: No curses/termcap library found |
| 22:52.31 | Spudchat | what do i need to install? |
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| 22:52.40 | zOap | bucky, on their desktops yes. But there are loooooooots of servers running sarge out there |
| 22:52.44 | eurisko | maybe ncurses |
| 22:52.48 | Estes2 | bbs |
| 22:52.56 | bucky | rrdf: edit your /etc/network/interfaces - ifdown and ifup quitchyerbitchin' |
| 22:52.59 | Surferdude | apt-get install libncursesw5 i think |
| 22:53.02 | g0th | hi |
| 22:53.02 | nvz | zenbum: ideas have swirled around about changing the release proceess... |
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| 22:53.06 | g0th | How do I find all packages that installed something in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox ? |
| 22:53.08 | g0th | I accidently removed the directory *g* |
| 22:53.19 | bucky | zOap: must work pretty good then |
| 22:53.23 | Spudchat | ncurses has no installation canidate |
| 22:53.24 | mmiikkee12 | great. now i can't paste anything. |
| 22:53.27 | mmiikkee12 | brb |
| 22:53.30 | zOap | bucky, yup |
| 22:53.36 | Supaplex | g0th: apt-file or /msg dpkg search (that's a literal, don't use search foo for the bot) |
| 22:53.39 | rrdf | okai I`ll do the same thing I always do.. editing interfaces file and hoping dhcp changes to fix IP |
| 22:53.48 | zenbum | nvz: weren't most of the delays with sarge due to the revamped install? |
| 22:53.57 | eurisko | any one here using a nvidia nforce 2 motherboard and kernel 2.6.15? |
| 22:53.59 | Hessophanes | karma: Ok, 132Meg used up by the cache, and only 63Meg really in use by some processes. |
| 22:54.15 | Spudchat | Surferdude: its telling me libncursesw5 is allready the newest version |
| 22:54.16 | mmiikkee12 | back |
| 22:54.20 | mmiikkee12 | now... |
| 22:54.22 | g0th | Supaplex: hmm, doesn't apt-file search from all packages? |
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| 22:54.25 | g0th | not only installed ones |
| 22:54.37 | nvz | zenbum: sarge was a big mess IMO it did take a bit longer.. but all releases generally take that long |
| 22:54.41 | mmiikkee12 | it's things like this, anyway.. |
| 22:54.46 | mmiikkee12 | (WW) ****INVALID MEM ALLOCATION**** b: 0xffe80000 e: 0xffefffff correcting^G |
| 22:54.47 | Surferdude | then it might need the other thing it asked for |
| 22:54.50 | karma | Hessophanes: but it the normal... the new server is not doing that? It seems like something I am installing or using it doing it |
| 22:54.53 | Supaplex | g0th: yes, that's what dpkg -S is for |
| 22:54.55 | bucky | Spudchat: are you running mixed packages from stable, testing or unstable? |
| 22:54.57 | mmiikkee12 | (only one line pasted on purpose ;) |
| 22:55.04 | Spudchat | no, this is all from stable |
| 22:55.06 | eurisko | i have a issue with the sound card... but it's so strange , if i boot a live cd linux it works perfectly but under this kernel i get some strange beeps, that as a coincidence match the wifi pci card led!I am going sick! |
| 22:55.09 | nvz | zenbum: you're either rolling out a new installer, changing compiler version.. or something.. and there are always issues that drag on for months at a time |
| 22:55.11 | Hessophanes | karma: That's the standard linux behaviour - using free RAM as cache... see http://www.tldp.net/LDP/sag/html/buffer-cache.html |
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| 22:55.17 | Spudchat | ohh hang on, is mysql5 not ready for stable yet? |
| 22:55.26 | g0th | thanks |
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| 22:55.37 | g0th | right :) |
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| 22:55.41 | quitte | is someone experienced with g400 tvout here? |
| 22:55.54 | Supaplex | Spudchat: we threw away mysql. use postgresql now. ;) hehe |
| 22:55.58 | Surferdude | looks like i'm taking down my server again :( |
| 22:56.01 | opioid | Hi i was wondering if any one could tell me which X driver supports a Intel Intergrated GMA900 |
| 22:56.09 | karma | Hessophanes: thanks... I just wanted to make sure I was not making a mistake that I would repeat on the new server |
| 22:56.12 | Spudchat | Supaplex: hmm ok ill look into it...i dunno that much about it |
| 22:56.13 | nvz | zenbum: its about priorities. debian's priorities are 100% DFSG free, working bug free, on all supported archs.. we dont have bottom lines, gameplans, scenarios, or deadlines to meet |
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| 22:56.29 | Supaplex | Spudchat: it's a great alternative =) |
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| 22:56.40 | zenbum | nvz: so would you argue that ubuntu releases are very iffy? |
| 22:57.06 | nono31 | any idea when thunderbird 1.5 will hit sid? It has been released few weeks ago now. |
| 22:57.09 | nvz | zenbum: I dont know a damn thing about ubuntu much less their release shedule and futhermore, I dont care |
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| 22:57.19 | nvz | zenbum: this is #debian I am a debian user. |
| 22:57.22 | bucky | zenbum: is ubuntu 100% DFSG free, working bug free, on all supported archs |
| 22:57.24 | rrdf | okai I enter interfaces file and then resolv.conf vor my router, right? |
| 22:57.38 | mmiikkee12 | well, anyone know how to fix that stupid x crash? |
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| 22:58.09 | eurisko | i have a issue with the sound card... but it's so strange , if i boot a live cd linux it works perfectly but under this kernel i get some strange beeps, that as a coincidence match the wifi pci card led!I am going sick! Does someone knows how can i manage irq's or something? i gues it's something related to a shared irq. |
| 22:58.12 | zenbum | nvz: sorry, i just find it interesting that ubuntu and others are making a business on "parasitizing" debian unstable code |
| 22:58.27 | bucky | zenbum: why do you want to compare apples to oranges? btw i heard dapper is being delayed |
| 22:58.38 | jshoenberger | Can I pipe text to the mail command? |
| 22:58.43 | cougar` | Hello all |
| 22:58.44 | cougar` | away |
| 22:58.46 | ioerror | zenbum, "parasitizing?" |
| 22:58.51 | nvz | zenbum: its peoples freedom to do what they like with what we do. as long as we dont care and keep doing what we do |
| 22:58.53 | nicolas_1 | zenbum: business ?! |
| 22:58.55 | opioid | Would anyone be willing to have a one on one convo with me i have a few questions? |
| 22:59.04 | cougar` | How do I add a key to apt? |
| 22:59.15 | zenbum | nicolas_1: yes... Canonical is a business |
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| 22:59.25 | unix_infidel | lol, i cant stop staring at cmatrix. |
| 22:59.26 | unix_infidel | :) |
| 22:59.30 | nvz | zenbum: the minute we give a shit what other people do is when debian no longer exists as you know it |
| 22:59.31 | quitte | opioid: just ask your questions and see if someone answers |
| 22:59.32 | streuner | opioid: ask your questions in channel |
| 22:59.37 | nicolas_1 | zenbum: if theyre not selling ubuntu, theyre not making business with it |
| 22:59.46 | zOap | unix_infidel, glad you found a hobby that suits you :P |
| 22:59.50 | ioerror | zenbum, it seems like you haven't read this: mako.cc/writing/to_fork_or_not_to_fork.html |
| 22:59.57 | bucky | zenbum: and also did you see this? http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/161 |
| 23:00.05 | zenbum | nicolas_1: they sell support, integration, etc |
| 23:00.16 | unix_infidel | zOap: is better than porn i guess :P |
| 23:00.16 | Hessophanes | jshoenberger: Sure. |
| 23:00.29 | nicolas_1 | well, others use debian as a base for a good reason. |
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| 23:00.52 | nvz | zenbum: got freedom? |
| 23:00.53 | Hessophanes | unix_infidel: Already looked at the keybindings? Adjustable speed, colors... ;) |
| 23:00.56 | jshoenberger | Hessophanes any special options that need to be set? or just <command> | mail <email@mail.com> |
| 23:01.02 | unix_infidel | Hessophanes: yea. |
| 23:01.07 | ftp3 | how can I tell if my kernel has udf built into it? |
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| 23:01.13 | jmd_ | Why does mbox-client-applet immediately crash ? |
| 23:01.20 | bucky | "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". that would include "parasitizing" others |
| 23:01.26 | zOap | unix_infidel, well, I would like to disagree with you on that part, but whatever gives you the kick :P |
| 23:01.27 | unix_infidel | Hessophanes: STILL no actuall fonts that resemble the matrix glyphs but i suppose this is the best low latency program i could hope for. |
| 23:01.28 | streuner | ftp3: grep your /boot/config* |
| 23:01.29 | zenbum | bucky: yes, that security bug was an amazing oversight |
| 23:01.30 | quitte | ftp3: cat /proc/filesystems |
| 23:01.32 | Hessophanes | jshoenberger: Just cat mailbody (or similar) | mail -s Subject <to@addr> should do. |
| 23:01.43 | bucky | zenbum: have fun with ubuntu then |
| 23:01.47 | jshoenberger | K, thanks! |
| 23:01.48 | pwnz | :troll bucky |
| 23:02.02 | Hessophanes | ftp3: It wasn't in /proc/filesystems, so the kernel itself hasn't... try modprobe udf... |
| 23:02.05 | nvz | zenbum: do things get harder to read the faster they fly by? |
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| 23:02.14 | Hessophanes | ftp3: ... and if that fails, there's no support in your configuration. |
| 23:02.18 | bucky | pwnz: are you a ubuntu user too? |
| 23:02.26 | zenbum | bucky: i'm not pro-ubuntu... i prefer to avoid religion |
| 23:02.27 | erhanr | hello everyone |
| 23:02.39 | Surferdude | Whats with all the ubuntu talk in #debian? |
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| 23:03.02 | bucky | zenbum: good.. does that mean we can talk about debian here in #debian now? |
| 23:03.11 | zenbum | Surferdude: just helping ISPs sell more bandwidth ;-) |
| 23:03.11 | pwnz | bucky: no. |
| 23:03.15 | erhanr | hehe |
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| 23:03.26 | zOap | you bastards :) |
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| 23:03.39 | erhanr | >topic |
| 23:03.51 | erhanr | ! topic |
| 23:03.51 | dpkg | from memory, topic is you're supposed to read the topic, even if that means you have to type /topic or scroll up beyond the nick list your client prints. if you fail to do that, make sure you can handle the harsh and insulting comments you'll (rightfully) face |
| 23:03.55 | zenbum | bucky: ok... how do you feel about debian vs fedora? ;-) |
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| 23:04.10 | bucky | zenbum: go ask in #fedora |
| 23:04.25 | opioid | I just installed debian and i got this when doing "startx" Xsession: unable to start Xsession --- no "/home/opioid/.xsession" file, no "/home/opioid/.Xsession" file , no session manager, no windows manager and no terminal emulatot found: aborting; does this have anything todo with which X driver my video card supports? |
| 23:04.29 | ftp3 | i am friggin goingt to scream. Has anyone seen/solved this error? I have been googling/trying and even bought a new drive.. error -> libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO. Can't open VMG info! <-- (i am simply trying to play a dvd with mplayer or xine which apt says are both up to date |
| 23:04.38 | eurisko | can someone give me some little help her please! i have a issue with the sound card... but it's so strange , if i boot a live cd linux it works perfectly but under this kernel i get some strange beeps, that as a coincidence match the wifi pci card led!I am going sick! Does someone knows how can i manage irq's or something? i guess it's something related to a shared irq.I am using 2.6.15, madwifi-ng driver for atheros card. |
| 23:04.41 | zenbum | bucky: ok calm down... just making conversation |
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| 23:05.02 | Kerr | 'lo .. I'm trying to install sarge ona friend's pc (linux26 debconf/priority=low, i'm in the tty2 ssh.) ...whenever it rebbots into the new system, grub can't mount the drive. error 17 or something. Would anyone know why? Debian has it's own hdd, and free reign over the mbr. |
| 23:05.24 | bucky | zenbum: since you're so smart why don't you help out with one of the last four questions asked |
| 23:05.27 | streuner | eurisko: did you try to disable ACPI? |
| 23:05.28 | jazbo | Is it always like this friday afternoon?? |
| 23:05.40 | zOap | zenbum, hmm, I would suggest disgussing releases rather than different distro's. we are kinda debian freaks u no |
| 23:05.45 | nvz | !permasunday |
| 23:05.45 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
| 23:05.48 | nvz | jazbo: ^ |
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| 23:06.20 | g0th | 'llo |
| 23:06.22 | zOap | friday?? isn't this saturday?? |
| 23:06.31 | eurisko | nope! is it an issue or something that is common to happen? |
| 23:06.32 | zenbum | bucky: i prefer philosophy to nitty-gritty technical details ;-) |
| 23:06.34 | nvz | its sunday, arent you paying attention? |
| 23:06.35 | Kerr | it won't be saturday herefor another 45 mins. |
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| 23:06.49 | eurisko | streuner i will compile a new kernel then :p |
| 23:06.50 | zOap | nvz, puuh, thank you:) |
| 23:06.52 | nvz | zenbum: then you are in the wrong channel. |
| 23:06.52 | bucky | zenbum: you'd like #debian-legal |
| 23:07.23 | rrdf | so bucky.. I checked interfaces file Its set to static!!! IP is fix.. still only in single user mode I have internet |
| 23:07.40 | opioid | hmm i guess no one knows the answer? |
| 23:07.56 | bucky | rrdf: is your driver for your nic loaded and does eth0 show up in ifconfig |
| 23:08.03 | zenbum | actually i like #debian just fine.... i'm not forcing anyone to step back and consider the larger picture... /ignore me if you don't like that sort of thing |
| 23:08.04 | streuner | eurisko: run 'cat /proc/interrupts' |
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| 23:08.34 | zenbum | anyway, i'll put on my techo-geek hat now.... |
| 23:08.45 | bucky | if you don't have a question or don't want to support some questions then you should spend your time somewhere else |
| 23:08.52 | eurisko | streuner i wish i could understand this :) |
| 23:08.53 | eurisko | lol |
| 23:08.59 | streuner | eurisko: kerneloptions via bootloader could help too (IRQ) |
| 23:09.03 | Kerr | zenbum: can'tyou put your shut up and go away hat on? |
| 23:09.07 | zenbum | bucky: ok.... point taken |
| 23:09.19 | eurisko | check flood streuner |
| 23:09.24 | streuner | eurisko: (altering IRQ's) |
| 23:09.29 | rrdf | do you mean me? I`m a newbie and first time in the irc today.. |
| 23:09.39 | quitte | any idea how i can make sure there is something to see on /dev/fb1? |
| 23:09.45 | bucky | rrdf: is your driver for your nic loaded and does eth0 show up in ifconfig |
| 23:09.54 | nvz | Kerr: heh, funny from where I am sitting.. but not very nice.. |
| 23:10.05 | zOap | agree |
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| 23:10.22 | bucky | !beer Kerr |
| 23:10.25 | g0th | how do I get the java plugin for firefox working with the java-package? |
| 23:10.29 | rrdf | yes it does.. only difference.. in single user mode I have a IP.. in normal mode nothing is assignet but I can see eth0 |
| 23:10.38 | opioid | is it ok to repeat your question if no one reply's? |
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| 23:10.47 | zenbum | Kerr: touche |
| 23:10.48 | bucky | rrdf: i don't know |
| 23:10.48 | Kerr | nvz: I'm not allowed to be nice on permasunday. It goes against my religion. |
| 23:10.49 | zOap | unix_infidel, hmm, cmatrix is driving me mad. How do you turn this off? :P |
| 23:10.59 | nvz | g0th: if you built it with java-package and installed it it should be working provided you use debian firefox too |
| 23:11.00 | g0th | I installed sun-j2re1.5 using java-package / make-jpkg |
| 23:11.24 | Kerr | beer ^.^ |
| 23:11.37 | Hessophanes | zOap: Press q. |
| 23:11.40 | rrdf | okai.. |
| 23:11.54 | zOap | Hessophanes, um, it was a joke:) |
| 23:11.57 | nvz | unless some version inconsistancies exist. I've seen that happen. back when they started building with new gcc and you had to rebuild your jre |
| 23:12.19 | nvz | well download a new one |
| 23:12.20 | nvz | anyhow |
| 23:12.36 | Hessophanes | :) |
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| 23:13.00 | MrFaber | hi all |
| 23:13.02 | opioid | I just installed debian and i got this when doing "startx" Xsession: unable to start Xsession --- no "/home/opioid/.xsession" file, no "/home/opioid/.Xsession" file , no session manager, no windows manager and no terminal emulatot found: aborting; does this have anything todo with which X driver my video card supports? |
| 23:13.06 | g0th | nvz: hmm, it doesn't work :( |
| 23:13.16 | g0th | hmm |
| 23:13.18 | MrFaber | Anyone has experiences with xorg.conf and external monitors? |
| 23:13.21 | opioid | i got that when i booted into debian and typed startx |
| 23:13.23 | g0th | I might need to reinstall everything |
| 23:13.33 | g0th | but my /etc/alternative/ shows a java plugin |
| 23:13.44 | g0th | it's just that it's not added to firefox somehow (probably) |
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| 23:13.49 | zOap | Thug-N-Me, please don't do that |
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| 23:14.09 | nicolas_1 | http://mako.cc/writing/to_fork_or_not_to_fork.html, nice reading |
| 23:14.17 | MrFaber | Nobody? |
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| 23:14.56 | nicolas_1 | MrFaber: ive never seen internal monitors |
| 23:15.02 | Spudchat | ok postgresql is installed, but i was wondering...is the version installed by default on sarge 7.4 |
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| 23:15.07 | MrFaber | nicolas_1, in laptops |
| 23:15.12 | MrFaber | :P |
| 23:15.12 | nicolas_1 | oh ok |
| 23:15.13 | MrFaber | ;) |
| 23:15.38 | MrFaber | nicolas_1, do you have a clue |
| 23:15.38 | nicolas_1 | MrFaber: ill think you should do some xinerama thing |
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| 23:15.41 | jazbo | !tell MrFaber -about ask |
| 23:15.45 | MrFaber | nicolas_1, that works |
| 23:15.51 | g0th | nvz: hmm, maybe I have the wrong firefox installed |
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| 23:16.07 | MrFaber | the problem is that my exernal monitor doesn't accecpt the mode |
| 23:16.08 | g0th | nvz: what is the official package name, firefox or mozilla-firefox? I got both |
| 23:16.11 | MrFaber | xorg ignores it |
| 23:16.20 | MrFaber | but not for the internal |
| 23:16.26 | MrFaber | it tells me that the mode isn't set |
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| 23:16.42 | zOap | MrFaber, try reconfiguring it |
| 23:16.44 | nicolas_1 | MrFaber: hrm, i believe this could be an HorizSync problem |
| 23:16.51 | MrFaber | I tried it in the monitor section and afterwards in the Modes-Section |
| 23:16.52 | nvz | g0th: not sure I thought it was mozilla-firefox |
| 23:16.54 | MrFaber | without success |
| 23:17.01 | zOap | hmm |
| 23:17.03 | MrFaber | nicolas_1, the monitor works fine |
| 23:17.14 | MrFaber | but it uses the wrong resolution |
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| 23:17.32 | nicolas_1 | MrFaber: some modes wont work is the horizontal sync does not permit it |
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| 23:17.50 | nicolas_1 | s/is/if |
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| 23:18.12 | MrFaber | nicolas_1, but the mode is exactly copy from xorg log |
| 23:18.17 | MrFaber | and xorg got it from dpms |
| 23:18.21 | MrFaber | from the monitor |
| 23:18.26 | MrFaber | but xorg ignores it |
| 23:18.27 | g0th | nvz: hmm, strange I seem to have both from the same repository!?! |
| 23:18.32 | nicolas_1 | MrFaber: so the resolution you have is the most acceptable |
| 23:18.42 | MrFaber | yes |
| 23:18.45 | g0th | or how is the command to show the repository? |
| 23:18.46 | nicolas_1 | MrFaber: you can do more, but by risking your monitors life |
| 23:18.47 | MrFaber | the correct flat resolution |
| 23:18.55 | MrFaber | noflex, they can't more |
| 23:19.00 | g0th | I tried apt-cache showpkg <name> |
| 23:19.00 | MrFaber | flatscreens afaik |
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| 23:19.09 | g0th | but I think this is the wrong command |
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| 23:19.22 | nicolas_1 | g0th: i think its just show |
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| 23:19.27 | nicolas_1 | apt-cache show |
| 23:19.29 | MrFaber | the funny thing is that my internal monitor shows the wrong resolution when an external is connected |
| 23:19.33 | Stromberg | gibts ein iptables frontend? |
| 23:19.35 | MrFaber | that could be fixed with the mode line |
| 23:19.36 | Stromberg | oops sry |
| 23:19.41 | MrFaber | Stevie, lol |
| 23:19.44 | MrFaber | Stevie, shorewall |
| 23:19.47 | g0th | and how do I get the repository with show? |
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| 23:19.49 | g0th | I don't see it |
| 23:19.49 | MrFaber | ups sorry Stevie |
| 23:19.50 | nicolas_1 | MrFaber: oh, thats pretty weirdier |
| 23:19.50 | Stromberg | is there an iptables frontend existing? |
| 23:19.55 | g0th | I mean the entry in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:20.01 | MrFaber | Stromberg, kmyfirewall, shorewall, ... |
| 23:20.09 | Stromberg | thx i try |
| 23:20.21 | nicolas_1 | g0th: you want to list all it contains? |
| 23:20.23 | Stromberg | firewall on debian is iptables right? |
| 23:20.24 | erhanr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.27 | MrFaber | nicolas_1, but it ignores the modline completly for the external |
| 23:20.31 | opioid | I just installed debian and i got this when using startx in cmdline "startx" Xsession: unable to start Xsession --- no "/home/opioid/.xsession" file, no "/home/opioid/.Xsession" file , no session manager, no windows manager and no terminal emulatot found: aborting; does this have anything todo with which X driver my video card supports? |
| 23:20.34 | MrFaber | it is so curious |
| 23:20.36 | g0th | erhanr: I don't see the repository there |
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| 23:21.08 | thingfish | opioid: it sounds like you're missing some stuff. |
| 23:21.09 | g0th | I want eg. ftp://debian.ethz.ch/... |
| 23:21.16 | nicolas_1 | opioid: is there something you dont understand in this error message? |
| 23:21.21 | g0th | such that I know from which source I installed the package |
| 23:21.49 | nicolas_1 | opioid: the answer is no |
| 23:22.01 | Hessophanes | g0th: apt-cache policy <pkgname>? |
| 23:22.03 | opioid | Well does anyone know how i can fix this? |
| 23:22.12 | g0th | yes! :) |
| 23:22.24 | g0th | well that doesn't tell me that neither |
| 23:22.29 | g0th | but it tells me what would be chose |
| 23:22.30 | nicolas_1 | opioid: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 23:22.37 | g0th | and as I didn't do it manually it's ok I'd say |
| 23:22.45 | thingfish | opioid: it seems like you need to install perhaps x-window-system, gnome or kde, gdm or kdm... |
| 23:22.54 | Hessophanes | MrFaber: Where did you put that ModeLine? Maybe the wrong section in xorg.conf? |
| 23:23.10 | MrFaber | Hessophanes, definatly not |
| 23:23.16 | g0th | hmm, so there indeed seems to be a firefox and mozilla-firefox package. Can anyone tell me the difference= |
| 23:23.25 | MrFaber | same position and structure like the internal monitor |
| 23:23.26 | thingfish | (I utterly despise windows. You can't do shit in it without something fucking up.) |
| 23:23.43 | Hessophanes | g0th: In unstable? |
| 23:23.43 | Coweater | g0th: in unstable? |
| 23:23.43 | MrFaber | Hessophanes, not same, equal postiion |
| 23:23.46 | g0th | yes |
| 23:23.52 | opioid | Thanks alot, this if my first time i've installed so what is x-window-system |
| 23:23.53 | Coweater | firefox is 1.5 |
| 23:23.58 | g0th | orafu: with what should I go |
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| 23:24.17 | g0th | 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-4 0 for both |
| 23:24.21 | thingfish | opioid: doesn't it seem obvious from the name? |
| 23:24.25 | g0th | they look exactly the same from the version |
| 23:24.32 | Hessophanes | g0th: mozilla-firefox is a transition package. It's empty. |
| 23:24.37 | g0th | ok |
| 23:24.40 | thingfish | opioid: "x" is the graphics system for linux. |
| 23:24.46 | g0th | thanks |
| 23:24.54 | erhanr | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=firefox&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all |
| 23:25.00 | erhanr | there says its unstable |
| 23:25.04 | erhanr | if its firefox |
| 23:25.05 | thingfish | I hate people with nicks that remind me of drugs I like. |
| 23:25.06 | g0th | hmm, and do I need it to get the java plugin from java-package working? |
| 23:25.46 | evilbulgarian | hi, if i had --get-selections file to give to dpkg would it install all the packages that are in it and remove the rest or would it leave the differing packages |
| 23:25.47 | Hessophanes | g0th: Need what? The transition package? |
| 23:25.50 | g0th | yes |
| 23:25.54 | opioid | thingfish thanks |
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| 23:26.06 | g0th | or how do I get the plugin working automatically |
| 23:26.11 | Hessophanes | g0th: No - it's completely empty, and only there to ease upgrades. |
| 23:26.23 | g0th | it seems to be installed (in /etc/alternatives/ at least) |
| 23:26.27 | Hessophanes | g0th: Don't know where the plugin installs itself to... |
| 23:26.30 | g0th | but it doesn't work |
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| 23:26.53 | g0th | I have the location |
| 23:27.07 | erhanr | if java doesnt work you probably need path it |
| 23:27.12 | g0th | so it would probably work if I move it to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ |
| 23:27.12 | *** join/#debian trancersz (n=trancers@Toronto-HSE-ppp3719423.sympatico.ca) |
| 23:27.21 | g0th | what do you mean? |
| 23:27.22 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.23 | *** part/#debian trancersz (n=trancers@Toronto-HSE-ppp3719423.sympatico.ca) |
| 23:27.25 | g0th | java works |
| 23:27.28 | g0th | but the plugin not |
| 23:27.31 | *** join/#debian trancersz (n=trancers@Toronto-HSE-ppp3719423.sympatico.ca) |
| 23:27.34 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.34 | Hessophanes | g0th: That's where firefox would expect it to be... |
| 23:27.34 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.36 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.38 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.40 | trancersz | . |
| 23:27.42 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.44 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.47 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.48 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.50 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.52 | trancersz | . |
| 23:27.55 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.56 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:27.57 | erhanr | wtf . that trancersz |
| 23:28.00 | zOap | ! troll trancersz |
| 23:28.01 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.03 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.04 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.05 | Shadowcat | !ops trancersz is flooding |
| 23:28.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: trancersz is flooding |
| 23:28.06 | trancersz | . |
| 23:28.08 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.10 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.12 | g0th | Hessophanes: well, I have /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so and |
| 23:28.12 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.13 | madona | shoot him |
| 23:28.13 | erhanr | where is op here |
| 23:28.14 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.16 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.18 | trancersz | . |
| 23:28.20 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.22 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.24 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.26 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
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| 23:28.28 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.32 | trancersz | . |
| 23:28.32 | g0th | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.34 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.36 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.40 | strider | trancersz: Stop! |
| 23:28.40 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.40 | dooglus | GNAA? |
| 23:28.42 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.44 | trancersz | . |
| 23:28.46 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.50 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.52 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.53 | Hessophanes | g0th: Ok, but no link in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins to point at that alternative? |
| 23:28.54 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.56 | trancersz | . |
| 23:28.58 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:28.59 | g0th | yep |
| 23:29.00 | g0th | no link |
| 23:29.02 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.04 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.08 | g0th | I might need to reinstall it |
| 23:29.08 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.11 | trancersz | . |
| 23:29.12 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.15 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.15 | nicolas_1 | how come there is people like this in here |
| 23:29.17 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.17 | jazbo | ignored before he pasted the 3rd time |
| 23:29.19 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.23 | trancersz | . |
| 23:29.24 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.27 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.27 | nzx | hey, if i install xp in linux using vmware, will i be able to use all features of xp ? |
| 23:29.30 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.32 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.33 | thingfish | oh lord |
| 23:29.34 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.37 | trancersz | . |
| 23:29.38 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.42 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.44 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.45 | _GecKo | lol |
| 23:29.46 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.47 | thingfish | !ops where the heck are you |
| 23:29.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: where the heck are you |
| 23:29.48 | trancersz | . |
| 23:29.50 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.54 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.56 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:29.58 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.02 | trancersz | . |
| 23:30.04 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.05 | *** join/#debian tag (n=chatzill@p3m/member/tag) |
| 23:30.06 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.08 | _GecKo | trancersz: you are the WIN |
| 23:30.09 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.09 | g0th | it still fails |
| 23:30.10 | g0th | hmm |
| 23:30.10 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.11 | thingfish | you're a donkey's anus. |
| 23:30.12 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.14 | trancersz | . |
| 23:30.16 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.18 | blondie | sigh |
| 23:30.18 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.22 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.24 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.25 | thingfish | yay for no ops. |
| 23:30.26 | trancersz | . |
| 23:30.28 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.31 | nzx | whats going on ? |
| 23:30.32 | thingfish | fuck this shit. |
| 23:30.32 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.35 | *** part/#debian thingfish (n=mark@dialup-4.245.40.8.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net) |
| 23:30.35 | dogmeat | !ops boot trancersz |
| 23:30.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: boot trancersz |
| 23:30.36 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.42 | trancersz | . |
| 23:30.42 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.44 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.45 | tag | There is some permission I can give that won't let other users do an ls in a directory, but will let them reach a directory within that directory |
| 23:30.46 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.48 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.50 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.52 | trancersz | . |
| 23:30.54 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.56 | blondie | tag: chmod -r |
| 23:30.56 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:30.58 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.02 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.03 | Wanderer | tag: give them no read, but allow execute |
| 23:31.04 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.06 | trancersz | . |
| 23:31.08 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.09 | dogmeat | heh |
| 23:31.09 | *** join/#debian debitest (n=test@home.nt-edv.de) |
| 23:31.10 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.12 | jazbo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Nigger_Association_of_America |
| 23:31.12 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.13 | dadexter | wow, you're excited... do see them, go see them! |
| 23:31.14 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.15 | tag | Wanderer: I tried that, 710 right |
| 23:31.17 | dogmeat | thank god for ignore |
| 23:31.17 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
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| 23:31.18 | trancersz | . |
| 23:31.20 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.24 | g0th | searchplugins -> ../../share/firefox/searchplugins |
| 23:31.24 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.26 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.32 | g0th | that's in /usr/lib/firefox |
| 23:31.32 | trancersz | . |
| 23:31.34 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.38 | dadexter | what an idiot |
| 23:31.38 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.45 | trancersz | . |
| 23:31.47 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.48 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.50 | debitest | hello |
| 23:31.51 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.54 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:31.56 | trancersz | . |
| 23:31.58 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.02 | nvz | heh |
| 23:32.03 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.04 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.07 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.10 | tag | I see |
| 23:32.11 | trancersz | . |
| 23:32.12 | Hessophanes | g0th: Hmm... and nothing more? |
| 23:32.13 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.14 | *** part/#debian erhanr (n=signorel@unaffiliated/erhanr) |
| 23:32.14 | tag | I had to do 711 |
| 23:32.15 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.16 | debitest | can anyone help me wit a debian ftp uploadspeed issue |
| 23:32.17 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.21 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.23 | trancersz | . |
| 23:32.24 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.24 | madona | How to ignor somebody in Xchat? Ignore user doesnt work |
| 23:32.26 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.32 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.33 | nvz | its official, the gay niggers are here |
| 23:32.33 | blondie | can someone ddos trancersz? :| |
| 23:32.34 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.35 | *** join/#debian alk (n=tony@71-13-40-131.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com) |
| 23:32.36 | trancersz | . |
| 23:32.38 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.39 | *** join/#debian holycow (n=a@mail.wjsgroup.com) |
| 23:32.40 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.41 | Coweater | madclicker: /help ignore |
| 23:32.42 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.46 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.47 | g0th | hmm, how do I reinstall a package that I created myself? |
| 23:32.48 | *** join/#debian erhanr (n=signorel@unaffiliated/erhanr) |
| 23:32.49 | trancersz | . |
| 23:32.49 | Coweater | madona: /help ignore i mean |
| 23:32.50 | trancersz | . |
| 23:32.52 | trancersz | . |
| 23:32.54 | Shadowcat | !ops ban trancersz |
| 23:32.54 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: ban trancersz |
| 23:32.55 | g0th | usually I do apt-get install --reinstall |
| 23:32.57 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
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| 23:32.59 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.02 | Hessophanes | g0th: dpkg -i |
| 23:33.02 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.04 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.05 | g0th | ahh |
| 23:33.06 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
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| 23:33.07 | madona | Coweater: ok |
| 23:33.08 | g0th | simply again dpkg -i |
| 23:33.09 | g0th | ok |
| 23:33.09 | trancersz | . |
| 23:33.10 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.11 | erhanr | hey BearPerson |
| 23:33.13 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.15 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.18 | erhanr | ignore trancersz |
| 23:33.19 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.21 | trancersz | . |
| 23:33.21 | Shadowcat | BearPerson: can you do anything about the flooder? |
| 23:33.23 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.28 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.33 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.35 | trancersz | . |
| 23:33.36 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.39 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.40 | Coweater | madona: if you can't get that, do it from window > ignore list |
| 23:33.40 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.43 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.45 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.47 | trancersz | . |
| 23:33.47 | madona | erhaner: thanks |
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| 23:33.49 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.51 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.52 | madona | ignore trancersz |
| 23:33.53 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.54 | _GecKo | /ignore trancersz |
| 23:33.54 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.56 | jerware | hahaha |
| 23:33.56 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:33.58 | trancersz | . |
| 23:34.02 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.04 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.06 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.07 | debitest | can anyone help me wit a debian ftp uploadspeed issue |
| 23:34.08 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.10 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.12 | jerware | haha |
| 23:34.12 | trancersz | . |
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| 23:34.16 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.18 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.22 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.23 | madona | /ignore trancersz does not work for me |
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| 23:34.24 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.26 | trancersz | . |
| 23:34.27 | jazbo | !tell debitest -about ask |
| 23:34.29 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.33 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.34 | Coweater | madona: /IGNORE trancersz!*@* ALL |
| 23:34.34 | erhanr | BearPerson: is number one :) |
| 23:34.34 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.36 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.40 | trancersz | . |
| 23:34.41 | *** part/#debian nalioth (n=nalioth@ubuntu/member/pdpc.bronze.nalioth) |
| 23:34.42 | GecKo- | madona: what about /silence trancersz |
| 23:34.42 | tag | wow this is annoying |
| 23:34.42 | trancersz | The Gay Niggers Are Here!!!!!!! |
| 23:34.47 | madona | Coweater, ok |
| 23:34.51 | nvz | did I call that or what? |
| 23:34.55 | BearPerson | *sigh* |
| 23:35.01 | jerware | trancersz you're funny |
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| 23:35.07 | *** part/#debian MrFaber (n=MrFaber@dslb-084-056-218-207.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:35.08 | jazbo | Just ignore him no big deal |
| 23:35.11 | Shadowcat | he'll be back |
| 23:35.12 | erhanr | hehe probably you dont remember me BearPerson |
| 23:35.16 | madona | aaha |
| 23:35.17 | Shadowcat | damned gnaa trollers |
| 23:35.18 | madona | done |
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| 23:36.38 | nvz | gnaa is cool. proves to you why internet security is important even if you dont care about it |
| 23:36.40 | debitest | iam running debian sarge an i want to use it as local ftp server so i installed proftpd and it workes fine but if i try to upload files ist is really slow down to a fey byte per secound |
| 23:37.20 | jazbo | debitest, why aren't you using sftp? |
| 23:37.24 | erhanr | :) it was funny than now i watch king of queens |
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| 23:37.30 | BearPerson | if any GNAA guys come back within the next 10 minutes you can /msg me, normally /stats p is your best bet |
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| 23:37.43 | erhanr | yea BearPerson |
| 23:37.46 | erhanr | thanks |
| 23:37.47 | g0th | ok |
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| 23:38.05 | g0th | it simply doesn't seem to be included in the java-package and / or firefox |
| 23:38.06 | debitest | jazbo: cause i do not know it i am new with debian |
| 23:38.07 | Shadowcat | damnit figures |
| 23:38.12 | Shadowcat | abrotman missed all the action |
| 23:38.12 | g0th | the (java plugin installation) |
| 23:38.20 | g0th | so I'll do it manually I guess |
| 23:38.20 | Shadowcat | WHERE WERE YOU! |
| 23:38.25 | abrotman | Shadowcat: action ? |
| 23:38.28 | nvz | abrotman: a friend of yours was here |
| 23:38.32 | Shadowcat | abrotman: gnaa flooder |
| 23:38.34 | BearPerson | gnaa paid a visit |
| 23:38.45 | abrotman | nvz: huh? |
| 23:38.46 | BearPerson | I got him klined for now |
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| 23:38.59 | jazbo | debitest, probably you have sshd intalled by default. What type of machine are you logging onto the debian server from? |
| 23:39.05 | abrotman | nvz: anything good? |
| 23:39.05 | Irrumator | What's GNAA? |
| 23:39.10 | abrotman | Irrumator: use google |
| 23:39.12 | Shadowcat | !gnaa |
| 23:39.15 | nvz | abrotman: the gnaa. I suppose you are gonna tell me they arent based out of Philly and you arent a card carrying member? |
| 23:39.21 | evilbulgarian | hi, if i had --get-selections file to give to dpkg would it install all the packages that are in it and remove the rest or would it leave the differing packages |
| 23:39.22 | Shadowcat | hmm.... |
| 23:39.24 | abrotman | nvz: what did they say? |
| 23:39.27 | dooglus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Nigger_Association_of_America |
| 23:39.29 | Shadowcat | !factinfo gnaa |
| 23:39.29 | dpkg | Shadowcat: there's no such factoid as gnaa |
| 23:39.33 | nvz | abrotman: no just wanted to let us know the gay niggers are here |
| 23:39.35 | gutano | anyone have any good/bad experiences with different vpn solutions? (i need a remote windows client to have access to my local lan, sarge as my endpoint) |
| 23:39.36 | debitest | jazbo iam loggin in from winxp or win 2k3 system |
| 23:39.44 | Irrumator | eh |
| 23:39.49 | *** part/#debian pere (n=pere@49.84-48-28.nextgentel.com) |
| 23:39.51 | abrotman | nvz: oh .. not about me? |
| 23:40.02 | jazbo | Both machines on the same LAN? |
| 23:40.05 | BearPerson | abrotman, you don't really want people googling for gnaa without warning ;-) |
| 23:40.13 | abrotman | BearPerson: he asked! :) |
| 23:40.13 | nvz | abrotman: nope.. but I figured they knew you anyhow.. just by the way they were acting :P |
| 23:40.19 | abrotman | nvz: huh? |
| 23:40.22 | evilbulgarian | gutano: openvpn is great! |
| 23:40.24 | erhanr | :) |
| 23:40.30 | abrotman | nvz: what does that have to do with me? |
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| 23:40.45 | nvz | abrotman: nothing.. I am just picking on you since you just walked in |
| 23:40.58 | abrotman | nvz: was it the google link again? |
| 23:41.11 | JaVaSan | how can i figure out if some user exist ? what command should i use? |
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| 23:41.31 | abrotman | JaVaSan: getent |
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| 23:41.43 | abrotman | guess what? |
| 23:41.55 | gutano | evilbulgarian: 1 vote openvpn =D (i had a previouse install on gentoo using openvpn, but I didn't research much before setting that one up, and I have the time to do it this round) |
| 23:42.04 | abrotman | nvz: i'm still confused what it has to do with me |
| 23:42.20 | dooglus | abrotman: are you gay? |
| 23:42.28 | abrotman | not even close |
| 23:42.29 | JaVaSan | abrotman, it does not work =/ |
| 23:42.29 | dooglus | abrotman: are you a nigger? |
| 23:42.36 | dooglus | abrotman: are you a gay nigger? |
| 23:43.08 | abrotman | JaVaSan: getent passwd <username> |
| 23:43.13 | abrotman | dooglus: no no |
| 23:43.32 | abrotman | nvz: were there no ops again? |
| 23:43.41 | Shadowcat | we need more ops |
| 23:43.46 | Shadowcat | abrotman: I called twice |
| 23:43.48 | Shadowcat | no ops |
| 23:43.53 | loggygreg | abrotman: :-) |
| 23:43.54 | dooglus | abrotman: I would think the 3rd question was redundant, but they seem to ask it anyway. |
| 23:43.55 | zenbum | tourette's syndrome is so sad |
| 23:44.09 | abrotman | dooglus: uhm .. ok |
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| 23:44.23 | abrotman | JaVaSan: make sense ? |
| 23:44.28 | debitest | so anyone has an idea of my upoad problem ?P? |
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| 23:45.02 | jazbo | debitest, the machines are both on the same LAN? |
| 23:45.07 | abrotman | oh ffs .. |
| 23:45.12 | JaVaSan | abrotman, what else key can i use? |
| 23:45.14 | debitest | yes they are |
| 23:45.21 | abrotman | JaVaSan: huh? that doesn't do what you want? |
| 23:45.56 | JaVaSan | i wanna know what user my apache is using... |
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| 23:46.09 | abrotman | JaVaSan: that's not what you originally asked |
| 23:46.20 | mmiikkee12 | anyone know how to fix this? http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=608277 (that's only part of the log, starting at the first problem) |
| 23:46.28 | *** part/#debian erhanr (n=signorel@unaffiliated/erhanr) |
| 23:46.38 | cva | I need to change the permissions on /dev/inputs/events*. I've changed /etc/udev/permissions.rules to KERNEL="event[0-9]*", PROGRAM="/etc/udev/scripts/inputdev.sh %k", RESULT="inputdev", MODE="0660", GROUP="users" |
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| 23:46.48 | e2e | Is that possible to combine 2 txt files? I need to join first file's first column to second file's first column |
| 23:46.53 | cva | restarting udev or rebooting has no effect |
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| 23:46.55 | JaVaSan | abrotman, sorry.. but is it what i wanna know... |
| 23:47.17 | abrotman | JaVaSan: ps aux |
| 23:47.20 | JaVaSan | e2e, see "paste" and "cut" |
| 23:47.26 | cva | I should say, I need them to stay through a reboot |
| 23:47.30 | jazbo | debitest, I would try downloading a sftp client for you win box and trying to use that. Might resolve the prob |
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| 23:47.54 | cva | try winscp for a win sftp client |
| 23:47.55 | pipeline | abrotman: GNAA is hilarious :P |
| 23:47.57 | abrotman | debitest: try filezilla |
| 23:48.02 | mike4479 | Hi guys is there any other programs other then ndiswrapper To load my wireless drivers? |
| 23:48.06 | abrotman | pipeline: bunch of sad sad wankers |
| 23:48.14 | abrotman | mike4479: that depends on the card |
| 23:48.18 | JaVaSan | abrotman, works =) |
| 23:48.34 | abrotman | JaVaSan: like i'd lie :) |
| 23:48.36 | mike4479 | abrotman: it a linksys :( |
| 23:48.37 | mmiikkee12 | ~anyone know how to fix this? http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=608277 (that's only part of the log, starting at the first problem) |
| 23:48.39 | pipeline | abrotman: We're a bunch of sad, sad wankers, and we're not hilarious |
| 23:48.43 | abrotman | mike4479: more info needed |
| 23:48.45 | debitest | jazbo: i think it worked well sice to certaint point su i assume there is any problem wit services or ports or whatever .. |
| 23:48.50 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: check google |
| 23:48.54 | mike4479 | abrotman: okone sec |
| 23:48.58 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: tried |
| 23:48.59 | mike4479 | abrotman: ok one sec |
| 23:49.08 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: what card is it ? |
| 23:49.12 | debitest | it do not seems to be the client |
| 23:49.26 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: intel 810 |
| 23:49.28 | mmiikkee12 | onboard |
| 23:49.31 | glazorgos | ===szs+===+>+============+++++===++<++<++++=======ssssssssshD |
| 23:49.33 | jazbo | debitest: maybe listen to abrotman, he's usually right... |
| 23:49.33 | glazorgos | ==+=zs=s==============+++++++++++<<<+<<+<++++====ssssss=szDB |
| 23:49.33 | debitest | maybe ill install the whole system agein |
| 23:49.35 | glazorgos | =++=s==s======ss==++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<<<(<<<<++++==sssssszsDBB |
| 23:49.37 | glazorgos | ++++=ssss==sss=+++++++<<(((((((((((((((<<<<<<<+++=szsszzDDDh |
| 23:49.39 | glazorgos | =+++=sssssss=+++<+++<<<(((~(((((<<<<<(((((<<<<++<+==zhhhDDhz |
| 23:49.40 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: so you're using the i810 driver? |
| 23:49.43 | glazorgos | s=++==zszs++<+<<++<<<<((((~~(<<<<<<<<((((<<<<+<<++++shDhzzzz |
| 23:49.45 | glazorgos | s====szz=++<<++<+<<<((((~~~~((<<<((<+<<<<<<<<<<<<<<+==++++=z |
| 23:49.47 | glazorgos | zs==+=s++<<<<+++<<<<((((((<((<<++<<+++++<<<((((<<(<==<(<<(+s |
| 23:49.49 | abrotman | !ops glazorgos flooding |
| 23:49.49 | glazorgos | z=++++=+<<<<++<+<<(((((((((<<+<<<<<++<<<(((~(~(<(+=+((~~((<= |
| 23:49.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: glazorgos flooding |
| 23:49.51 | glazorgos | s+++===++++<<<<<(((~~~~~(~~((<<<<+<+<<<(<(((((<<++<(~-~(~(<= |
| 23:49.53 | glazorgos | ss=+=ss=ss=+<<<(~~~~~~-----~((<<<++++<<<+<+<<<+<((~~---(~~(+ |
| 23:49.55 | glazorgos | ss=+====sss+<<<+(((~~-----~-~(<<<<<+<<+<<<<((<+<(~---(~~-~~< |
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| 23:49.57 | glazorgos | s=+=+==+=+++++<(<((~--'''--~(<++<<<<+++<(++=+++(-~~(<(~--~-( |
| 23:49.57 | tiCo89 | glazorgos: go and die |
| 23:49.59 | glazorgos | z==s=+=+++++<(<(~~(((~-'~~<<<<<++++++==++==s+<+<(~~(-''----( |
| 23:50.01 | glazorgos | ssss++=+==+<<<(~~~~((((((<<<+++===+========s+<<(~-'''-~~~~~< |
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| 23:50.02 | abrotman | can we just block ALL OF CANADA now? |
| 23:50.03 | glazorgos | sss===+++++<<<(~~~~~(((((<+==ss======+==ss+<~((-----~((~~((< |
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| 23:50.05 | glazorgos | ssss+==<<++=+<(~~~~~~(((((<<==+==+<++==szs<((<(~~~~~~(((((~( |
| 23:50.07 | glazorgos | sss====<<+++<(~-~~(~~~~(((<<+<<+=++++===ss+<<+(~((<<<<<(~~~~ |
| 23:50.09 | glazorgos | zzs=s=s+<+++<(---(<(~<<<((+<~-+ss=ss==+==z=+++(((~~~~~~~~--- |
| 23:50.13 | glazorgos | hzs=====<+++<--~-~~(~-+~<+<(+<====+ss+++=sss+<~--''--~~((~(( |
| 23:50.13 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: i don't know, haven't modprobed anything |
| 23:50.15 | glazorgos | hhzs++==++++<~-~~~~~~(~<((+ss=s=s=+=ssss=sss<~~~~---~((((<+= |
| 23:50.17 | glazorgos | <shz====++=+(~-~(~((((+<((<ssszzszzzzss=+szz<(~~(~~~((<<++=s |
| 23:50.19 | glazorgos | -(hzs=+==+=+<(-~~((<(<=<<(+sszzszssszss<=szz+(((((<<<<<<<(<+ |
| 23:50.20 | mmiikkee12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.21 | glazorgos | -'zzz==ss+==<(~~~~(<<(<(((<<szssssssssz=sszz=<~(<<<<(((~~~(< |
| 23:50.23 | glazorgos | ~'+zsz=+=s=++(-~~(((((((((((==+ss=+=ssssssz++=<(~~---~~~~~(< |
| 23:50.25 | glazorgos | ~-<zsss=+ss=+<((<<(((<<<<<((=sssss=sssssssz=++~~---~~(((((<+ |
| 23:50.27 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: for you |
| 23:50.27 | glazorgos | ~-~zs=s==ss=++<<<<<(<<<<<+<<=zsss==szsss==ss==(~~~~((<<<<+ss |
| 23:50.29 | Shadowcat | great |
| 23:50.29 | glazorgos | ~-~hz==+s=s=++<<(<((<<<<+<<+<szss===sss===ssss((((<<+++++=s= |
| 23:50.31 | glazorgos | (-(zzs=+==s=+<<((<<<(((((<<+==+==+=+<+++++==ss++<+++++++++++ |
| 23:50.31 | Shadowcat | here we go again |
| 23:50.32 | nanok | anyone? |
| 23:50.32 | mike4479 | abrotman: its a linksys WPC54GS wuth speedbooster wireles G PCMCIA |
| 23:50.33 | glazorgos | (~<szz======+<(--~((~~~~~~~++===++++++++++++++====++<<(<++++ |
| 23:50.35 | glazorgos | ~~+====s=+===+<(~(((~~--'-~<ss==+<<<<<<<++++++=+++<<(((+===+ |
| 23:50.37 | glazorgos | (~+++<+====ss==++<<<<<((~((+==++<(((<<<++=+====+<<(<((<+++++ |
| 23:50.39 | glazorgos | ((<=+<<<++===ss====+<<<<<+++=++++<<+++++=====++<<<<(<<==++++ |
| 23:50.41 | abrotman | mike4479: we need the chipset |
| 23:50.41 | glazorgos | (((+++(~(<++<<++======+++===s==+= |
| 23:50.43 | E0x | what about that lamer ? |
| 23:50.45 | glazorgos | ===szs+===+>+============+++++===++<++<++++=======ssssssssshD |
| 23:50.47 | glazorgos | ==+=zs=s==============+++++++++++<<<+<<+<++++====ssssss=szDB |
| 23:50.49 | nanok | !ops glazaros flood? |
| 23:50.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: glazaros flood |
| 23:50.49 | glazorgos | =++=s==s======ss==++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<<<(<<<<++++==sssssszsDBB |
| 23:50.51 | glazorgos | ++++=ssss==sss=+++++++<<(((((((((((((((<<<<<<<+++=szsszzDDDh |
| 23:50.53 | glazorgos | =+++=sssssss=+++<+++<<<(((~(((((<<<<<(((((<<<<++<+==zhhhDDhz |
| 23:50.55 | glazorgos | s=++==zszs++<+<<++<<<<((((~~(<<<<<<<<((((<<<<+<<++++shDhzzzz |
| 23:50.55 | abrotman | !afo |
| 23:50.56 | dpkg | anyone for ops! |
| 23:50.57 | glazorgos | s====szz=++<<++<+<<<((((~~~~((<<<((<+<<<<<<<<<<<<<<+==++++=z |
| 23:50.58 | mike4479 | abrotman: ok one sec |
| 23:50.59 | glazorgos | zs==+=s++<<<<+++<<<<((((((<((<<++<<+++++<<<((((<<(<==<(<<(+s |
| 23:51.01 | glazorgos | z=++++=+<<<<++<+<<(((((((((<<+<<<<<++<<<(((~(~(<(+=+((~~((<= |
| 23:51.03 | glazorgos | s+++===++++<<<<<(((~~~~~(~~((<<<<+<+<<<(<(((((<<++<(~-~(~(<= |
| 23:51.04 | debitest | damm spammer |
| 23:51.05 | glazorgos | ss=+=ss=ss=+<<<(~~~~~~-----~((<<<++++<<<+<+<<<+<((~~---(~~(+ |
| 23:51.07 | glazorgos | ss=+====sss+<<<+(((~~-----~-~(<<<<<+<<+<<<<((<+<(~---(~~-~~< |
| 23:51.09 | glazorgos | s=+=+==+=+++++<(<((~--'''--~(<++<<<<+++<(++=+++(-~~(<(~--~-( |
| 23:51.11 | glazorgos | z==s=+=+++++<(<(~~(((~-'~~<<<<<++++++==++==s+<+<(~~(-''----( |
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| 23:51.11 | orchid | don't block canada :-\ |
| 23:51.15 | glazorgos | ssss++=+==+<<<(~~~~((((((<<<+++===+========s+<<(~-'''-~~~~~< |
| 23:51.17 | glazorgos | sss===+++++<<<(~~~~~(((((<+==ss======+==ss+<~((-----~((~~((< |
| 23:51.17 | debitest | ill be back later |
| 23:51.18 | iMx | can someone boot him?!? |
| 23:51.19 | glazorgos | ssss+==<<++=+<(~~~~~~(((((<<==+==+<++==szs<((<(~~~~~~(((((~( |
| 23:51.21 | glazorgos | sss====<<+++<(~-~~(~~~~(((<<+<<+=++++===ss+<<+(~((<<<<<(~~~~ |
| 23:51.23 | glazorgos | zzs=s=s+<+++<(---(<(~<<<((+<~-+ss=ss==+==z=+++(((~~~~~~~~--- |
| 23:51.24 | bucky | !ops glazorgos spam |
| 23:51.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: glazorgos spam |
| 23:51.25 | glazorgos | hzs=====<+++<--~-~~(~-+~<+<(+<====+ss+++=sss+<~--''--~~((~(( |
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| 23:51.28 | debitest | cya ant thx for helping me |
| 23:51.28 | abrotman | iMx: no crap .. you think? |
| 23:51.29 | superNigger | hhzs++==++++<~-~~~~~~(~<((+ss=s=s=+=ssss=sss<~~~~---~((((<+= |
| 23:51.30 | nvz | bucky: staff is present |
| 23:51.31 | superNigger | <shz====++=+(~-~(~((((+<((<ssszzszzzzss=+szz<(~~(~~~((<<++=s |
| 23:51.33 | superNigger | -(hzs=+==+=+<(-~~((<(<=<<(+sszzszssszss<=szz+(((((<<<<<<<(<+ |
| 23:51.34 | mmiikkee12 | great, |
| 23:51.35 | superNigger | -'zzz==ss+==<(~~~~(<<(<(((<<szssssssssz=sszz=<~(<<<<(((~~~(< |
| 23:51.37 | superNigger | ~'+zsz=+=s=++(-~~(((((((((((==+ss=+=ssssssz++=<(~~---~~~~~(< |
| 23:51.39 | superNigger | ~-<zsss=+ss=+<((<<(((<<<<<((=sssss=sssssssz=++~~---~~(((((<+ |
| 23:51.41 | superNigger | ~-~zs=s==ss=++<<<<<(<<<<<+<<=zsss==szsss==ss==(~~~~((<<<<+ss |
| 23:51.42 | bucky | nvz: good question |
| 23:51.43 | Shadowcat | actually I've seen channels on efnet throw out the entire iSP |
| 23:51.45 | Shadowcat | ISP* |
| 23:51.46 | tag | dude this channel sucks |
| 23:51.47 | superNigger | ~-~hz==+s=s=++<<(<((<<<<+<<+<szss===sss===ssss((((<<+++++=s= |
| 23:51.48 | abrotman | superNigger: /nick superTard |
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| 23:51.49 | superNigger | (-(zzs=+==s=+<<((<<<(((((<<+==+==+=+<+++++==ss++<+++++++++++ |
| 23:51.51 | superNigger | (~<szz======+<(--~((~~~~~~~++===++++++++++++++====++<<(<++++ |
| 23:51.53 | superNigger | ~~+====s=+===+<(~(((~~--'-~<ss==+<<<<<<<++++++=+++<<(((+===+ |
| 23:51.55 | superNigger | (~+++<+====ss==++<<<<<((~((+==++<(((<<<++=+====+<<(<((<+++++ |
| 23:51.57 | superNigger | ((<=+<<<++===ss====+<<<<<+++=++++<<+++++=====++<<<<(<<==++++ |
| 23:51.59 | superNigger | (((+++(~(<++<<++======+++===s==+= |
| 23:52.01 | superNigger | ===szs+===+>+============+++++===++<++<++++=======ssssssssshD |
| 23:52.01 | Coweater | you can't troll a troll |
| 23:52.03 | superNigger | ==+=zs=s==============+++++++++++<<<+<<+<++++====ssssss=szDB |
| 23:52.05 | superNigger | =++=s==s======ss==++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<<<(<<<<++++==sssssszsDBB |
| 23:52.06 | abrotman | nalioth: can you do anything? |
| 23:52.07 | superNigger | ++++=ssss==sss=+++++++<<(((((((((((((((<<<<<<<+++=szsszzDDDh |
| 23:52.07 | Aghaster | ...wtf? |
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| 23:52.09 | superNigger | =+++=sssssss=+++<+++<<<(((~(((((<<<<<(((((<<<<++<+==zhhhDDhz |
| 23:52.11 | superNigger | s=++==zszs++<+<<++<<<<((((~~(<<<<<<<<((((<<<<+<<++++shDhzzzz |
| 23:52.13 | superNigger | s====szz=++<<++<+<<<((((~~~~((<<<((<+<<<<<<<<<<<<<<+==++++=z |
| 23:52.14 | mbishop | I think that's supposed to be a picture |
| 23:52.17 | superNigger | zs==+=s++<<<<+++<<<<((((((<((<<++<<+++++<<<((((<<(<==<(<<(+s |
| 23:52.19 | superNigger | z=++++=+<<<<++<+<<(((((((((<<+<<<<<++<<<(((~(~(<(+=+((~~((<= |
| 23:52.21 | superNigger | s+++===++++<<<<<(((~~~~~(~~((<<<<+<+<<<(<(((((<<++<(~-~(~(<= |
| 23:52.23 | superNigger | ss=+=ss=ss=+<<<(~~~~~~-----~((<<<++++<<<+<+<<<+<((~~---(~~(+ |
| 23:52.23 | Aghaster | i don,t see any picture in this |
| 23:52.23 | Shadowcat | gnaa insignia |
| 23:52.25 | superNigger | ss=+====sss+<<<+(((~~-----~-~(<<<<<+<<+<<<<((<+<(~---(~~-~~< |
| 23:52.27 | superNigger | s=+=+==+=+++++<(<((~--'''--~(<++<<<<+++<(++=+++(-~~(<(~--~-( |
| 23:52.29 | superNigger | z==s=+=+++++<(<(~~(((~-'~~<<<<<++++++==++==s+<+<(~~(-''----( |
| 23:52.31 | nvz | bucky: that was a statement not a question.. heh |
| 23:52.31 | superNigger | ssss++=+==+<<<(~~~~((((((<<<+++===+========s+<<(~-'''-~~~~~< |
| 23:52.31 | nanok | mbishop: i dont think anybody cares.. |
| 23:52.33 | superNigger | sss===+++++<<<(~~~~~(((((<+==ss======+==ss+<~((-----~((~~((< |
| 23:52.33 | iMx | urgh i cant stand it any more! |
| 23:52.35 | superNigger | ssss+==<<++=+<(~~~~~~(((((<<==+==+<++==szs<((<(~~~~~~(((((~( |
| 23:52.35 | mbishop | indeed |
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| 23:52.37 | superNigger | sss====<<+++<(~-~~(~~~~(((<<+<<+=++++===ss+<<+(~((<<<<<(~~~~ |
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| 23:52.39 | superNigger | zzs=s=s+<+++<(---(<(~<<<((+<~-+ss=ss==+==z=+++(((~~~~~~~~--- |
| 23:52.41 | superNigger | hzs=====<+++<--~-~~(~-+~<+<(+<====+ss+++=sss+<~--''--~~((~(( |
| 23:52.43 | superNigger | hhzs++==++++<~-~~~~~~(~<((+ss=s=s=+=ssss=sss<~~~~---~((((<+= |
| 23:52.45 | abrotman | FFS . op me .. i'll kill him :) |
| 23:52.47 | superNigger | <shz====++=+(~-~(~((((+<((<ssszzszzzzss=+szz<(~~(~~~((<<++=s |
| 23:52.48 | nanok | aaaah |
| 23:52.49 | superNigger | -(hzs=+==+=+<(-~~((<(<=<<(+sszzszssszss<=szz+(((((<<<<<<<(<+ |
| 23:52.51 | superNigger | -'zzz==ss+==<(~~~~(<<(<(((<<szssssssssz=sszz=<~(<<<<(((~~~(< |
| 23:52.53 | mike4479 | abrotman: it is a broadcom chipset |
| 23:52.53 | jazbo | HAHA his connection or computer is too slow to have the picture come out properly |
| 23:52.53 | superNigger | ~'+zsz=+=s=++(-~~(((((((((((==+ss=+=ssssssz++=<(~~---~~~~~(< |
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| 23:52.55 | superNigger | ~-<zsss=+ss=+<((<<(((<<<<<((=sssss=sssssssz=++~~---~~(((((<+ |
| 23:52.57 | nanok | the power of ignore |
| 23:52.57 | superNigger | ~-~zs=s==ss=++<<<<<(<<<<<+<<=zsss==szsss==ss==(~~~~((<<<<+ss |
| 23:52.59 | superNigger | ~-~hz==+s=s=++<<(<((<<<<+<<+<szss===sss===ssss((((<<+++++=s= |
| 23:53.01 | mbishop | but you'd think if they wanted to show a picture, they could do it, but they are clearly n00bs |
| 23:53.01 | superNigger | (-(zzs=+==s=+<<((<<<(((((<<+==+==+=+<+++++==ss++<+++++++++++ |
| 23:53.03 | superNigger | (~<szz======+<(--~((~~~~~~~++===++++++++++++++====++<<(<++++ |
| 23:53.05 | superNigger | ~~+====s=+===+<(~(((~~--'-~<ss==+<<<<<<<++++++=+++<<(((+===+ |
| 23:53.07 | superNigger | (~+++<+====ss==++<<<<<((~((+==++<(((<<<++=+====+<<(<((<+++++ |
| 23:53.09 | superNigger | ((<=+<<<++===ss====+<<<<<+++=++++<<+++++=====++<<<<(<<==++++ |
| 23:53.11 | superNigger | (((+++(~(<++<<++======+++===s==+= |
| 23:53.12 | nvz | abrotman: staff will kline.. there is like a dozen staffers in here right now |
| 23:53.13 | superNigger | ===szs+===+>+============+++++===++<++<++++=======ssssssssshD |
| 23:53.14 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: the active staff member is here |
| 23:53.17 | superNigger | ==+=zs=s==============+++++++++++<<<+<<+<++++====ssssss=szDB |
| 23:53.19 | superNigger | =++=s==s======ss==++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<<<(<<<<++++==sssssszsDBB |
| 23:53.19 | Shadowcat | I think nalioth is working on a gline |
| 23:53.21 | superNigger | ++++=ssss==sss=+++++++<<(((((((((((((((<<<<<<<+++=szsszzDDDh |
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| 23:53.22 | abrotman | nvz: really ..when? .. another five minutes? |
| 23:53.23 | superNigger | =+++=sssssss=+++<+++<<<(((~(((((<<<<<(((((<<<<++<+==zhhhDDhz |
| 23:53.25 | superNigger | s=++==zszs++<+<<++<<<<((((~~(<<<<<<<<((((<<<<+<<++++shDhzzzz |
| 23:53.27 | superNigger | s====szz=++<<++<+<<<((((~~~~((<<<((<+<<<<<<<<<<<<<<+==++++=z |
| 23:53.29 | superNigger | zs==+=s++<<<<+++<<<<((((((<((<<++<<+++++<<<((((<<(<==<(<<(+s |
| 23:53.31 | superNigger | z=++++=+<<<<++<+<<(((((((((<<+<<<<<++<<<(((~(~(<(+=+((~~((<= |
| 23:53.32 | mmiikkee12 | !ops somebody kline him. |
| 23:53.33 | superNigger | s+++===++++<<<<<(((~~~~~(~~((<<<<+<+<<<(<(((((<<++<(~-~(~(<= |
| 23:53.33 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: somebody kline him. |
| 23:53.35 | superNigger | ss=+=ss=ss=+<<<(~~~~~~-----~((<<<++++<<<+<+<<<+<((~~---(~~(+ |
| 23:53.37 | superNigger | ss=+====sss+<<<+(((~~-----~-~(<<<<<+<<+<<<<((<+<(~---(~~-~~< |
| 23:53.39 | superNigger | s=+=+==+=+++++<(<((~--'''--~(<++<<<<+++<(++=+++(-~~(<(~--~-( |
| 23:53.40 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: they can't kline |
| 23:53.41 | superNigger | z==s=+=+++++<(<(~~(((~-'~~<<<<<++++++==++==s+<+<(~~(-''----( |
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| 23:53.42 | mmiikkee12 | oh |
| 23:53.43 | superNigger | ssss++=+==+<<<(~~~~((((((<<<+++===+========s+<<(~-'''-~~~~~< |
| 23:53.43 | ftsac | I think we should not allow unregisted man join this channel |
| 23:53.47 | superNigger | sss===+++++<<<(~~~~~(((((<+==ss======+==ss+<~((-----~((~~((< |
| 23:53.49 | superNigger | ssss+==<<++=+<(~~~~~~(((((<<==+==+<++==szs<((<(~~~~~~(((((~( |
| 23:53.51 | superNigger | sss====<<+++<(~-~~(~~~~(((<<+<<+=++++===ss+<<+(~((<<<<<(~~~~ |
| 23:53.51 | mmiikkee12 | !staffers kline him. |
| 23:53.53 | superNigger | zzs=s=s+<+++<(---(<(~<<<((+<~-+ss=ss==+==z=+++(((~~~~~~~~--- |
| 23:53.53 | bucky | what's a good command line for sing? |
| 23:53.55 | superNigger | hzs=====<+++<--~-~~(~-+~<+<(+<====+ss+++=sss+<~--''--~~((~(( |
| 23:53.57 | superNigger | hhzs++==++++<~-~~~~~~(~<((+ss=s=s=+=ssss=sss<~~~~---~((((<+= |
| 23:53.59 | abrotman | bucky: ? |
| 23:53.59 | superNigger | <shz====++=+(~-~(~((((+<((<ssszzszzzzss=+szz<(~~(~~~((<<++=s |
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| 23:54.01 | superNigger | -(hzs=+==+=+<(-~~((<(<=<<(+sszzszssszss<=szz+(((((<<<<<<<(<+ |
| 23:54.03 | superNigger | -'zzz==ss+==<(~~~~(<<(<(((<<szssssssssz=sszz=<~(<<<<(((~~~(< |
| 23:54.05 | superNigger | ~'+zsz=+=s=++(-~~(((((((((((==+ss=+=ssssssz++=<(~~---~~~~~(< |
| 23:54.07 | superNigger | ~-<zsss=+ss=+<((<<(((<<<<<((=sssss=sssssssz=++~~---~~(((((<+ |
| 23:54.09 | superNigger | ~-~zs=s==ss=++<<<<<(<<<<<+<<=zsss==szsss==ss==(~~~~((<<<<+ss |
| 23:54.11 | superNigger | ~-~hz==+s=s=++<<(<((<<<<+<<+<szss===sss===ssss((((<<+++++=s= |
| 23:54.13 | superNigger | (-(zzs=+==s=+<<((<<<(((((<<+==+==+=+<+++++==ss++<+++++++++++ |
| 23:54.15 | superNigger | (~<szz======+<(--~((~~~~~~~++===++++++++++++++====++<<(<++++ |
| 23:54.17 | mmiikkee12 | hmm |
| 23:54.19 | superNigger | ~~+====s=+===+<(~(((~~--'-~<ss==+<<<<<<<++++++=+++<<(((+===+ |
| 23:54.21 | superNigger | (~+++<+====ss==++<<<<<((~((+==++<(((<<<++=+====+<<(<((<+++++ |
| 23:54.23 | superNigger | ((<=+<<<++===ss====+<<<<<+++=++++<<+++++=====++<<<<(<<==++++ |
| 23:54.23 | mmiikkee12 | i've figured it out |
| 23:54.25 | superNigger | (((+++(~(<++<<++======+++===s==+= |
| 23:54.27 | superNigger | ===szs+===+>+============+++++===++<++<++++=======ssssssssshD |
| 23:54.29 | superNigger | ==+=zs=s==============+++++++++++<<<+<<+<++++====ssssss=szDB |
| 23:54.30 | *** mode/#debian [+b %superNigger!*@*] by lilo |
| 23:54.32 | mmiikkee12 | it's a brainf*** program :D |
| 23:54.32 | streuner | ftsac: changing the channel politic only because one troll...? |
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| 23:54.39 | lilo | it's a child |
| 23:54.41 | mmiikkee12 | thank you lilo. |
| 23:54.44 | lilo | np |
| 23:54.45 | Aghaster | ah!!! thanks |
| 23:54.47 | bbrazil | second one tonight |
| 23:54.49 | dos000 | anyone : i have installed dhcp3-server and it works fine when my devices boot and send broadcast msgs. however i have a device that just keeps sending a dhcp request directly to the server (non broadcast) but the server is not replying. any ideas ? |
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| 23:54.50 | Shadowcat | lilo: he'll be back |
| 23:54.53 | slackyy | hey |
| 23:54.55 | slackyy | who can tell me what is the diference of umask and chmod ? |
| 23:54.55 | abrotman | lilo: you got that from the picture? |
| 23:54.56 | Shadowcat | you need to gline the host |
| 23:54.57 | mike4479 | abrotman: it is a broadcom chipset |
| 23:55.04 | abrotman | bbrazil: it's the same idiot every god damn time .. |
| 23:55.07 | ftsac | streuner, :) |
| 23:55.11 | mmiikkee12 | lilo, surprisingly, that one's not my brother :P |
| 23:55.16 | Aghaster | haha |
| 23:55.18 | lilo | I'm sure he will |
| 23:55.18 | nanok | streuner: not just one.. and it would be sensible, i think, with a proper warning |
| 23:55.18 | abrotman | lilo: can you do the real name +d thing again ? |
| 23:55.19 | erhanr | hehe again ? |
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| 23:55.37 | lilo | abrotman: he'll just change it |
| 23:55.39 | abrotman | mike4479: lspci says what about it ? |
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| 23:55.44 | abrotman | lilo: if he figures it out |
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| 23:55.47 | BearPerson | he already changed it once |
| 23:55.52 | abrotman | we have no ops apparently for the night |
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| 23:56.03 | nvz | they are out getting smasshed |
| 23:56.04 | mike4479 | abrotman: one sec I might have to reboot |
| 23:56.07 | madradrone | hello all. i'm trying to find out exactly what "obscure" means in common-password for pam. i have scoured around for info but have come up empty. |
| 23:56.11 | BearPerson | abrotman, you do now |
| 23:56.13 | erhanr | :) but tonight is very active |
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| 23:56.19 | mmiikkee12 | make me an op, i'll take care of it :) |
| 23:56.20 | abrotman | BearPerson: we have staff .. not ops |
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| 23:56.30 | Shadowcat | we need MORE ops |
| 23:56.34 | erhanr | yea |
| 23:56.35 | zenbum | he's using a dialup line.... you'll have to ban all of toronto |
| 23:56.36 | Shadowcat | a lot more of them |
| 23:56.40 | erhanr | we need op ss |
| 23:56.42 | lilo | Shadowcat: well, the GNAA children are more of a network-wide problem |
| 23:56.43 | abrotman | !sing blame canada |
| 23:56.44 | dpkg | blame canada, blame canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since canada came along, blame canada, blame canada, they're not even a real country, anyway |
| 23:56.58 | BearPerson | yup |
| 23:57.03 | Shadowcat | zenbum: back when gnaa was at war with our channel over at efnet |
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| 23:57.10 | Shadowcat | we banned all of Canada |
| 23:57.13 | nvz | I agree, this is not a problem for the #debian ops anyhow |
| 23:57.14 | BearPerson | you can either weed him out as he comes in or ban all of toronto |
| 23:57.14 | abrotman | is Md our op for the evening? |
| 23:57.17 | Shadowcat | and half the pacific |
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| 23:57.28 | zenbum | Shadowcat: lol |
| 23:57.28 | Md | ackron: only part time |
| 23:57.33 | abrotman | Md: ok |
| 23:57.35 | mmiikkee12 | !moo |
| 23:57.35 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 23:57.37 | streuner | abrotman: he is in .it .... |
| 23:57.37 | Md | abrotman: only part time |
| 23:57.42 | Shadowcat | zenbum: it wasn't very fun for the people who got banned |
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| 23:58.00 | streuner | Sa Mär 18 00:58:00 CET 2006 |
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| 23:58.06 | streuner | abrotman: the same TZ |
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| 23:58.20 | jazbo | !beer me |
| 23:58.26 | alvanson | odd question: is there a tool that I can use to change the mtime of files on a vfat system? (by change, I mean back in time) |
| 23:58.26 | mbishop | Shadowcat: that's what you get for using efnet |
| 23:58.27 | abrotman | streuner: who? md? |
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| 23:58.32 | jazbo | !beer everybody |
| 23:58.40 | mmiikkee12 | !lart mmiikkee12 for abusing the bot |
| 23:58.42 | streuner | yep |
| 23:58.44 | jazbo | 'gnight folks! |
| 23:58.44 | maalox | I'm having issues with my wavelan wireless card... I can connect to an access point just fine (according to iwconfig and ifconfig), but once I am connected I can't ping any address (including my own). Anyone have any ideas? |
| 23:58.45 | erhanr | i guess beer is over :) |
| 23:58.49 | abrotman | streuner: i'm aware of that |
| 23:58.52 | mmiikkee12 | !log |
| 23:58.53 | dpkg | Yeah, big guy, show me your /var/log!, or "It's /var/log, /var/log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood! It's /var/log, /var/log, it's better than bad it's good!" |
| 23:59.00 | Shadowcat | BearPerson: doubtful |
| 23:59.00 | Shadowcat | :( |
| 23:59.02 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: /msg dpkg log |
| 23:59.03 | madradrone | alvanson: mirrordir can |
| 23:59.11 | mgoetze | alvanson: yes, the tool is called dd |
| 23:59.15 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: i just larted myself for that :) |
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| 23:59.41 | mmiikkee12 | now, back to planet earth. |
| 23:59.48 | simonrvn | ffs |
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| 23:59.59 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: so what should i do about my x problem? |
