| 00:00.04 | abrotman | nvz: you should get a job :) |
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| 00:00.10 | nvz | abrotman: I got a job |
| 00:00.11 | FieldySnuts | Ungy: depends what you do. i have 2GB swap with 512MB ram, i get close to using all of it because I open lots of huge images at once and edit them. if I didn't do that with those images, I would have 1GB |
| 00:00.24 | jair | I have a little situation with my IBM laptop, everything turn off when i run the halt command or shutdown -h now command except the battery and the fan iinside the machine continue running. |
| 00:00.25 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: you planning on going give me a call.. I will go with you.. |
| 00:00.27 | Geraldine | hola |
| 00:00.36 | abrotman | jair: i think it's supposed to |
| 00:00.36 | Dict_02x | Geraldine, hola como estas!!! |
| 00:00.37 | xtension | hi Geraldine |
| 00:00.40 | Dict_02x | :P |
| 00:00.41 | FieldySnuts | Ungy: my general rule is go 2 times what you think you'd use. to be safe. |
| 00:00.42 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: i am thinking. since its traffic jam now. (= or tomorrow heheh |
| 00:00.44 | FieldySnuts | !irritate Dict_02x |
| 00:00.45 | dpkg | Dict_02x: wenas how can I make my mepis werkz lol |
| 00:00.50 | xtension | Geraldine cheer me up please |
| 00:00.51 | Geraldine | bien y tu |
| 00:00.58 | abrotman | !fr |
| 00:00.58 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 00:01.02 | jair | I though that was acpi but i installed and it damage all the alasa sound configuration |
| 00:01.04 | abrotman | err .. |
| 00:01.06 | abrotman | !es |
| 00:01.06 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:01.07 | abrotman | duh |
| 00:01.19 | Ungy | ok sounds good thanks 2 gigs it will stay |
| 00:01.20 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: How long is it at that price? 15$ for a wireless card is a gooooood fucking deal. |
| 00:01.21 | xtension | Geraldine is a man :/ |
| 00:01.21 | jair | haha |
| 00:01.26 | ifvoid | you sure it isn;t portugese? |
| 00:01.34 | [Elvis] | AHHHHHHHHHHHH I GIVE UP!!!! have to format I guess |
| 00:01.36 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: $9 is (=.. till 7th. |
| 00:01.41 | [Elvis] | everyone thanks for the help... |
| 00:01.42 | abrotman | [Elvis]: good plan |
| 00:01.48 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: but you know frys. they never have good shits there. |
| 00:01.49 | [Elvis] | I got no choice |
| 00:01.52 | jair | abrotman: you can understand what I am talking about. or you are saying that spanish speakers know more about debian? |
| 00:01.52 | FieldySnuts | yeah I agree. i've been there, it's not fun. backups backups backups. |
| 00:01.54 | Ungy | [Elvis], thank you for coming to your senses |
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| 00:02.00 | [Elvis] | fucked up beyond all recognition |
| 00:02.01 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: true... but their sales are good... |
| 00:02.02 | FieldySnuts | if you think you got rooted etc, ... reinstall |
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| 00:02.11 | Ungy | FUBAR |
| 00:02.19 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: you want to go now? i can come pick you up |
| 00:02.22 | abrotman | jair: no .. i'm saying that if you don't speak english very well . use the spanish channel if that is your native language .. but it wasn't intended for you |
| 00:02.24 | FieldySnuts | I'm paid a LOT of money by people to restore their exploited systems.. |
| 00:02.26 | [Elvis] | yeah, that's the only possibility probably |
| 00:02.28 | swim | hey, I need to install deb on a drive that is connected to ide 3... raid/ata other distros seem to recognize it as a regular ide drive but sarge doesnt... anyone know anoything about this? |
| 00:02.29 | jair | abrotman: debian do not turn off completly my laptop, that is the issue. |
| 00:02.30 | FieldySnuts | pain in the arse |
| 00:02.37 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: sure... whenever you go I am down |
| 00:02.37 | abrotman | jair: acpid installed ? |
| 00:02.44 | abrotman | jair: and how old is the laptop ? |
| 00:02.45 | jair | ohh ok |
| 00:02.51 | [Elvis] | FieldySnuts this isn't fixable anymore I guess :P |
| 00:02.52 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: k. i am coming over. |
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| 00:03.00 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: grab the video card too |
| 00:03.00 | jair | abrotman: the laptop is a IBM R51 brand new |
| 00:03.06 | abrotman | jair: apt-get install acpid |
| 00:03.09 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: ;) |
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| 00:03.18 | jair | abrotman: with a abrotman I did that and it mess the sound |
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| 00:03.28 | jair | abrotman: I had to reinstall the kernel |
| 00:03.29 | abrotman | jair: well .. you've got a choice to make then :) |
| 00:03.34 | Ungy | [Elvis], anything is fixable but the time and effort and knowledge to do so might be out of your grasp |
| 00:03.42 | abrotman | jair: use a 2.6 kernel and acpi and alsa .. should work fine |
| 00:03.53 | [Elvis] | ungy...not even my cp and mv commands work anymore |
| 00:03.54 | jair | I use 2.6.8 |
| 00:03.55 | [Elvis] | I cna't use ls |
| 00:03.58 | [Elvis] | or anything else |
| 00:04.01 | Ungy | [Elvis], to me I rather not spend 20 hourts trying to fix somethign I can reinstall in an hour |
| 00:04.03 | [Elvis] | rmdir isn't working |
| 00:04.04 | abrotman | Ungy: or it's totally rooted .. and not worth any effort since you can never be certain it's secure |
| 00:04.16 | jair | abrotman: do you think that doing just apt-get install acpid will get fixed? |
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| 00:04.22 | abrotman | jair: possibly |
| 00:04.25 | jair | ohh |
| 00:04.25 | Ungy | abrotman, I totally agree |
| 00:04.27 | jair | hmmm |
| 00:04.29 | mlalkaka | hi |
| 00:04.36 | jair | ok |
| 00:04.39 | jair | then i will try that |
| 00:04.41 | CyisWork | hmm... I keep getting an error from hald when it loads about kernel not supporting capabilities... an thoughts where to look as I just rebuilt kernel hopping to solve this problem |
| 00:04.42 | jair | ;) |
| 00:04.46 | [Elvis] | is the some sort of checkprogram to see if you're infected? |
| 00:04.54 | jair | abrotman: also the centrino network was staying on |
| 00:04.54 | abrotman | !chkrootkit |
| 00:04.55 | dpkg | chkrootkit is known to generate false positives on recent (2.4.24 and 2.6.*) kernels - it will complain about a few "processes hidden from the ps command". |
| 00:05.00 | FieldySnuts | yes, we've mentioned them a few times.. chkrootkit and rkhunter |
| 00:05.14 | abrotman | jair: i don't know anything about centrino .. my ibm has a minipci card |
| 00:05.14 | FieldySnuts | running those in a compromised system is possibly worthles |
| 00:05.16 | jair | abrotman: the acipd will take care of the centrino too? you think? |
| 00:05.21 | abrotman | jair: possibly |
| 00:05.25 | FieldySnuts | you can copy everything somewhere else and later chroot in and do it then |
| 00:05.27 | jair | abrotman: ok |
| 00:05.32 | jair | abrotman: thank you. |
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| 00:05.53 | FieldySnuts | actually I have a dvd with a full system that was compromised... i should do it to that, haven't had time to figure out what happened |
| 00:05.55 | mlalkaka | can i send emails using postfix or exim3 as smtp servers? or do they send the email to other smtp servers? |
| 00:06.10 | FieldySnuts | mta's send to other mta's |
| 00:06.13 | FieldySnuts | it's how that works |
| 00:06.46 | [Elvis] | am off to bed |
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| 00:06.51 | [Elvis] | later |
| 00:07.00 | nvz | ... momentarily |
| 00:07.36 | abrotman | nvz: you have no money!!!! |
| 00:07.44 | nvz | its payday |
| 00:07.48 | jair | it is no way of install gnome of kde light all the time you try to install it install all the stuff with it, gaim, gimp, mozilla, etc.. |
| 00:07.54 | abrotman | nvz: church brewery ? :) |
| 00:07.54 | Ungy | mlalkaka, postfix exim qmail all mta's capable of sending to other mta's |
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| 00:08.10 | abrotman | jair: yes .. there are |
| 00:08.14 | nvz | I am building a house right now in Georgetown or somewhere |
| 00:08.25 | abrotman | !tell jair about install kde |
| 00:08.30 | abrotman | jair: and .. i think it's gnome-base |
| 00:08.36 | abrotman | nvz: erm. . ok |
| 00:08.40 | silverton | How would I get my hp deskjet printer working? |
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| 00:09.00 | Ungy | ok just upgraded kernel to 2.6.11-1-686 gonna reboot and see if it lives |
| 00:09.01 | nvz | if I get my cousin on the same page with me, I will get a place here, and continue to work with him while I get my shit straight.. but if not, I got to move away and do my own thing |
| 00:09.12 | abrotman | nvz: starfish ? |
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| 00:09.22 | nvz | abrotman: no, I definatly could not rely on him |
| 00:09.24 | jair | abrotman: what do you mean? nice man |
| 00:09.28 | jair | abrotman: thank you |
| 00:09.28 | abrotman | nvz: heh |
| 00:09.31 | jair | again |
| 00:09.42 | mlalkaka | Ungy, so i have to direct them to send to another smtp server? for example, if i wanted to send an email to fooperson@foomail.com, would postfix, qmail, etc be able to send directly to foomail.com or does it have to proceed indirectly through another smtp server (like one provided by my isp) |
| 00:09.57 | nvz | abrotman: this one is a lisc contractor that has contract work to build townhouses untill next winter. |
| 00:10.10 | abrotman | jair: gnome-desktop-environment |
| 00:10.17 | abrotman | nvz: yay!!! |
| 00:10.44 | nvz | abrotman: if I can get him to stop wasting _my_ time, I am going to get myself liscenced and expand our crew |
| 00:11.06 | jair | abrotman: so I should use this: gnome-desktop-environment to install the very basic stuff |
| 00:11.07 | tabris|away | mlalkaka: either one is an option. however given that your IP may be blocked as a 'spammer' you're better off using your ISPs SMTP server |
| 00:11.10 | jair | cool |
| 00:11.12 | abrotman | nvz: licensed porn star ? |
| 00:11.17 | abrotman | jair: yeah .. afaik anyways |
| 00:11.18 | sparr_ | I would REALLY like to get rid of all traces of RAID on my system. I have screwed everything up royally, I want to start over from scratch. How can I achieve this? zeroing and recreating the partition tables on the drives only helped temporarily, it all came back when I rebooted. |
| 00:11.22 | Anthro | I used to have all my fetchmail log output going to /var/log/fetchmail.log, but then I had to rebuild my server and I forgot how to make it do that. Any ideas? |
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| 00:11.56 | nvz | he is a roofer, but also does siding, and has a box van with a seemless gutter machine, and can frame some. I want to learn to to electrical and the other stuff he doesnt do. I got a crew back in PA ready to go, skilled friends of mine that are down when I got the work lined up |
| 00:11.58 | abrotman | sparr_: is it the whole system ? |
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| 00:12.17 | sparr_ | abrotman: no, its 4 brand new drives. my main system lives on its own two drives that im not touching |
| 00:12.23 | erps | Hmm.. adduser .. can I create multiple accounts/users that all go back to the same user? I know, that sounds weird : |
| 00:12.29 | abrotman | sparr_: dd .. that's the only thing i know of |
| 00:12.29 | sparr_ | abrotman: i can do anything to those drives. im tempted to rip them out and demagnetize them |
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| 00:12.39 | mlalkaka | tabris|away, alright. thanks. what mta do you suggest? |
| 00:12.44 | nvz | if we are doing these townhouses inside and out, instead of just half the job, we can make real money, and not be wasting each others time anymore |
| 00:12.45 | abrotman | sparr_: if it were the whole system .. i'd say dban.sf.net |
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| 00:13.26 | sparr_ | ok, how do i blank the drives with dd? thats gonna take hours, but im desperate |
| 00:13.29 | tabris|away | mlalkaka: why not just keep postfix? |
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| 00:13.48 | mlalkaka | tabris|away, isn't postfix an mta? |
| 00:13.48 | tabris|away | mlalkaka: postfix is one of the easier ones to use. I don't know much about exim4. I never used sendmail. |
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| 00:13.54 | tabris|away | mlalkaka: yes, postfix is an MTA |
| 00:14.08 | mlalkaka | tabris|away, alright. i dont think if have any mta installed. |
| 00:14.15 | tabris|away | apt-get install postfix |
| 00:14.15 | mlalkaka | tabris|away, actually nm. i have to have one installed |
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| 00:23.48 | abrotman | nvz: grows ? |
| 00:23.51 | abrotman | shades ? |
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| 00:25.01 | tarzeau | abrotman: and i work here: http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~sengun/hpre861.jpg |
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| 00:25.20 | TNKS | hi all. I'm having trouble setting up grub for a windows drive the way I had it set up with lilo.conf. |
| 00:25.24 | abrotman | tarzeau: they make bombs there! |
| 00:25.30 | tarzeau | abrotman: crap! |
| 00:26.04 | TNKS | In lilo.conf I had "other=/dev/hdb1" and I did this map-drive swapping of 0x80 with 0x81. |
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| 00:27.31 | TNKS | I haven't opened up my box in a long, long time, but I remember that my Windows drive was a slave to a master Linux drive. |
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| 00:27.42 | TNKS | Has anyone done this kind of thing with grub? |
| 00:28.02 | zumbi | did you check man grub ? |
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| 00:28.31 | foka | Hello! |
| 00:29.15 | abrotman | update-grub ; grub-install .. iirc anyways |
| 00:29.37 | foka | I have a (probably newbie) question. I have both Ethernet (cabled) connection and WiFi. Should I enable them both and have them both work together? |
| 00:29.54 | abrotman | foka: channel bonding |
| 00:30.03 | TNKS | update-grub seems to do all the Linux kernels stuff great. But it doesn't do anything to set up dual-booting with a slave Windows drive. |
| 00:30.26 | abrotman | TNKS: so add it .. google for instructions .. it's quite easy |
| 00:31.32 | zumbi | foka: i have both interfaces, but i only use one to conect to the router. |
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| 00:31.53 | foka | abrotman, Oh, cool! Didn't think of that. |
| 00:32.48 | foka | zumbi: So, only one default gateway, and not both set to the same gateway, otherwise trouble would come, is that correct? |
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| 00:33.44 | sparr_ | I would REALLY like to get rid of all traces of RAID on my system. I have screwed everything up royally, I want to start over from scratch. How can I achieve this? zeroing and recreating the partition tables on the drives only helped temporarily, it all came back when I rebooted. i dont care if it takes hours, im desperate enough to dd zeros over the entire TB of space if someone will help |
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| 00:33.50 | TNKS | okay, I found it. I just found out about grub "map" entries. Seems to work just like the map-drive lilo entries. |
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| 00:36.17 | abrotman | sparr_: dd |
| 00:36.30 | abrotman | sparr_: or remove the drives you need .. dban.sf.net |
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| 00:37.00 | abrotman | sparr_: though . just writing over the first 1MB should get rid of it |
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| 00:37.24 | sparr_ | abrotman: i did that already. it got rid of it til i rebooted, then it all came back |
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| 00:37.37 | sparr_ | FieldySnuts walked me through dd'ing /dev/zero over the first meg |
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| 00:38.06 | abrotman | sparr_: it doesn't just .. come back .. |
| 00:38.18 | sparr_ | tell that to /proc/mdstat |
| 00:38.21 | abrotman | sparr_: how big are these drives ? |
| 00:38.25 | sparr_ | 250GB |
| 00:38.33 | sparr_ | dd over the whole drive will take like 6 hours each :( |
| 00:38.55 | abrotman | so tell the system it's not raid anymore ... then kill off the first 1MB of each one |
| 00:39.06 | sparr_ | how do i "tell the system its not raid anymore"? |
| 00:39.11 | sparr_ | i used mdadm to --create the RAID |
| 00:39.13 | thorie | please |
| 00:39.17 | sparr_ | but mdadm doesnt have any way to 'uncreate' |
| 00:39.18 | thorie | can someone help me undelete my file?????? |
| 00:39.20 | abrotman | sparr_: man mdadm ? |
| 00:39.24 | thorie | i don't have a backup of my file :(((( |
| 00:39.25 | sparr_ | ive already done that |
| 00:39.33 | abrotman | thorie: no undelete in unix |
| 00:39.39 | abrotman | !undelete |
| 00:39.44 | abrotman | see |
| 00:39.48 | abrotman | oh hist |
| 00:39.50 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 00:39.50 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 00:39.51 | thorie | it's going to be a nightmare for me to try to create this file... i dont even think i can |
| 00:39.54 | abrotman | oh . .he is here |
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| 00:39.59 | thorie | it's a sendmail configuration file |
| 00:40.10 | abrotman | haha |
| 00:40.13 | sparr_ | i shall try rebooting again |
| 00:40.13 | abrotman | pick another MTA :) |
| 00:40.16 | sparr_ | with blank partition tables |
| 00:40.19 | thorie | please help me :( |
| 00:40.26 | abrotman | thorie: there is no undelete |
| 00:40.39 | trave11er | there is for ext2 |
| 00:40.40 | trave11er | but not for ext3 |
| 00:40.42 | thorie | why not??? what are people who make mistakes (i.e. everybody who is human) supposed to do? |
| 00:40.50 | abrotman | thorie: backups |
| 00:40.58 | thorie | i can't backup a file every single time i change it |
| 00:41.04 | thorie | that's a nightmare in and of itself |
| 00:41.12 | abrotman | thorie: once a week would be a start don't you think ? |
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| 00:41.18 | thorie | that's worthless |
| 00:41.21 | abrotman | thorie: and .. it's not that bad |
| 00:41.23 | thorie | the file is completely different every week |
| 00:41.25 | abrotman | man dump |
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| 00:41.38 | thorie | and it gets changes that cannot be reproduced |
| 00:41.41 | xquercus | thorie, in general, you aren't going to find undelete on a unix type system. |
| 00:41.46 | abrotman | thorie: then .. make an hourly cron script that backs up the sendmail.cf to a floppy |
| 00:41.50 | Anthro | Repeat: I used to have all my fetchmail log output going to /var/log/fetchmail.log, but then I had to rebuild my server and I forgot how to make it do that. Any ideas? |
| 00:42.02 | thorie | hourly isn't even enough, i need it constantly backing up every 0.01 seconds |
| 00:42.09 | trave11er | thorie: you can very easily write a wrapper around rm to move files to some location instead of deleting them |
| 00:42.22 | thorie | this sucks :( |
| 00:42.29 | abrotman | thorie: if you're changing your sendmail.cf that often .. you should know enough to do a backup |
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| 00:42.55 | thorie | the backups are worthless |
| 00:42.58 | FieldySnuts | if you're using sendmail, you don't know much... |
| 00:43.06 | thorie | i can backup every hour and it's still useless, the cf file is completely different |
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| 00:43.12 | abrotman | thorie: apparently not .. since you don't have any file now |
| 00:43.23 | abrotman | why the fuck would you be changing your sendmail.cf file hourly ? |
| 00:43.28 | FieldySnuts | no kidding |
| 00:43.38 | thorie | new employees |
| 00:43.42 | thorie | and leaving employees |
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| 00:43.49 | abrotman | uhm .. use an include file ? |
| 00:44.02 | thorie | there's more to it than that |
| 00:44.12 | abrotman | or use postfix with a mysql backend |
| 00:44.18 | FieldySnuts | make backups every single minute of it then, man cron |
| 00:44.23 | thorie | this e-mail server is quite old and complex and it has to handle over 4,000 employees |
| 00:44.31 | abrotman | it's not debian is it ? |
| 00:44.35 | thorie | but now its missing the .cf file, of which there is no backup |
| 00:44.35 | abrotman | it's SunOS isn't it ? |
| 00:44.43 | thorie | and now i need to undelete it |
| 00:45.04 | FieldySnuts | this isn't windows... geez, back it up every minute if you have to. if you didn't have backups or they're useless, time to finx out why and prevent it in the future |
| 00:45.05 | thorie | before 4,000 employees begin calling me and saying, "what the hell is wrong with the e-mail server?" |
| 00:45.09 | abrotman | thorie: what file system ? |
| 00:45.14 | thorie | i dont know |
| 00:45.19 | FieldySnuts | wtf |
| 00:45.21 | abrotman | !rootsmite thorie |
| 00:45.22 | thorie | i dont know anything about linux or filesystem or e-mail servers |
| 00:45.28 | abrotman | thorie: cat /etc/fstab |
| 00:45.30 | FieldySnuts | then why the hell are you trying to admin it? |
| 00:45.34 | FieldySnuts | eh screw it, have fun |
| 00:45.37 | trave11er | thorie: if it is old (woody) then there is a chance that it's ext2 |
| 00:45.48 | thorie | FieldySnuts: im a C++ programmer but im the only one who even remotely knows how to use a computer in this company |
| 00:45.51 | trave11er | and it is possible to undelete from ext2 |
| 00:45.54 | trave11er | theoretically |
| 00:45.59 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: stick around .. could get funny :) |
| 00:46.02 | FieldySnuts | seriously. HIRE an admin. |
| 00:46.03 | thorie | FieldySnuts: so i started to fiddle around with the sendmail.cf, and then i deleted it |
| 00:46.05 | abrotman | thorie: cat /etc/fstab |
| 00:46.05 | FieldySnuts | oh i'll be watching. |
| 00:46.34 | thorie | FieldySnuts: im the admin/programmer/it/analyst/developer/documentation/coffeemaker/janitor |
| 00:46.44 | thorie | so its tough |
| 00:46.48 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.52 | abrotman | thorie: cat /etc/fstab |
| 00:46.57 | FieldySnuts | yeah well. if there weren't working backups, i ahve zero sympathy, hire a real admin or have fun with problems like this |
| 00:47.00 | thorie | root@inc_wall:/etc/mail# cat /etc/fstab |
| 00:47.00 | thorie | /dev/wd0a / ffs rw 1 1 |
| 00:47.08 | FieldySnuts | that's freebsd or some sort of bsd. |
| 00:47.09 | abrotman | it's god damn BSD |
| 00:47.09 | trave11er | haha |
| 00:47.10 | FieldySnuts | so quit asking us. |
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| 00:47.14 | thorie | what is BSD? |
| 00:47.18 | bdl | yikes |
| 00:47.22 | FieldySnuts | ah christ... |
| 00:47.24 | abrotman | thorie: not Linux .. and certainly not Debian |
| 00:47.26 | FieldySnuts | anyway, shutting up. |
| 00:47.30 | thorie | how do i fix this crazy thing |
| 00:47.33 | abrotman | thorie: uname -a |
| 00:47.35 | FieldySnuts | HIRE A FUCKING ADMIN |
| 00:47.43 | thorie | root@inc_wall:/etc/mail# uname -a |
| 00:47.43 | thorie | OpenBSD inc_wall 3.6 GENERIC#59 i386 |
| 00:47.49 | abrotman | thorie: /j #openbsd |
| 00:47.56 | MasterChief | Can someone please tell me how to make a new user in proftpd? |
| 00:48.02 | abrotman | thorie: and i'm not joking .. |
| 00:48.07 | thorie | im confused :( |
| 00:48.09 | abrotman | MasterChief: #proftpd |
| 00:48.13 | abrotman | thorie: /j #openbsd |
| 00:48.19 | abrotman | thorie: debian is not OpenBSD |
| 00:48.25 | thorie | ok |
| 00:48.32 | bdl | thorie> try the #openbsd channel, or google.com for openbsd / sendmail |
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| 00:48.40 | FieldySnuts | thorie: simply you're in the wrong place, we couldn't help with openbsd even if we wanted to really really badly |
| 00:48.48 | abrotman | maybe greycat could :) |
| 00:48.58 | FieldySnuts | yeah but he'd refuse to here hehe |
| 00:49.11 | bdl | heh |
| 00:49.22 | thorie | ok |
| 00:49.28 | MasterChief | abrotman: That doesnt do anything. |
| 00:49.30 | FieldySnuts | and seriously consider setting up or having someone set up a backup system... things like this CAN be avoided. |
| 00:49.35 | abrotman | MasterChief: what doesn't ? |
| 00:49.42 | thorie | i hate being a C++ programmer who has to do e-mail administration |
| 00:49.42 | abrotman | MasterChief: /j #proftpd :) |
| 00:49.47 | abrotman | thorie: then don't do it |
| 00:49.49 | MasterChief | ok |
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| 00:49.51 | FieldySnuts | been a while since i played with a bsd, i should again, good stuff |
| 00:49.53 | abrotman | tell them to hire an admin |
| 00:49.53 | MasterChief | thanks |
| 00:50.02 | thorie | abrotman: they refuse |
| 00:50.10 | bdl | thorie> I can appreciate that, Im in the same boat |
| 00:50.11 | abrotman | thorie: then don't do it .. christ .. you're not an admin |
| 00:50.12 | FieldySnuts | then they won't get a working system. that is THEIR fault not yours. |
| 00:50.13 | thorie | abrotman: they said that i should do it |
| 00:50.16 | treyh0 | abrotman: get commercial software |
| 00:50.24 | MasterChief | abrotman: That doesnt work eaither |
| 00:50.26 | abrotman | treyh0: for what ? |
| 00:50.27 | treyh0 | or thorie |
| 00:50.28 | treyh0 | i mean |
| 00:50.29 | treyh0 | nevermind |
| 00:50.30 | abrotman | MasterChief: what doesn't ? |
| 00:50.33 | treyh0 | i am lost |
| 00:50.38 | FieldySnuts | too bad it's not a linux box.. i'd only charge 500 bucks to fix it up. |
| 00:50.39 | abrotman | MasterChief: you're not even there |
| 00:50.42 | thorie | FieldySnuts: well, i dont want to get fired... i'd rather do e-mail admin than be jobless |
| 00:50.44 | FieldySnuts | but then again sendmail? no :( |
| 00:50.46 | MasterChief | What? |
| 00:50.52 | treyh0 | i suppose with commercial software its less work for an administrator because they pay for support |
| 00:50.53 | abrotman | MasterChief: /j #proftpd |
| 00:51.02 | MasterChief | I tried that doesnt work |
| 00:51.04 | abrotman | MasterChief: /join #proftpd |
| 00:51.08 | abrotman | that doesn't work ? |
| 00:51.14 | MasterChief | OHHHHHHHHHHHH Sorry lol |
| 00:51.19 | bdl | works for me |
| 00:51.26 | FieldySnuts | thorie yeah I know what you mean. you just must must make it clear you don't know how to do this, they can't expect a fix out of someone who hasn't done it... |
| 00:51.28 | abrotman | bdl: not all clients have that shortcut |
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| 00:51.49 | bdl | right, I just meant there IS a proftpd channel |
| 00:51.50 | thorie | they asked for a C++ programmer with 5 years of experience with VC++ and knowledge of Microsoft SQL... so i got the job. And then, they told me "ok fix this e-mail server". |
| 00:52.05 | thorie | I was like, "huh??" |
| 00:52.10 | bdl | so you're more an MS guy then |
| 00:52.18 | thorie | yeah |
| 00:52.20 | treyh0 | thorie: tell them you can take a class to learn but it will cost $2k |
| 00:52.21 | treyh0 | heh |
| 00:52.38 | bdl | thats even worse, at least if you had some sort of Nix background you could make it work |
| 00:52.44 | thorie | their expectation is that a C++ programmer should be able to do e-mail administration |
| 00:52.48 | FieldySnuts | best you can do in that case is tell them "I will try but I was not hired to do this, and I am not qualified" |
| 00:53.06 | FieldySnuts | that's really unreasonable.. consider searching for a new job, that has to be ungodly stressful |
| 00:53.11 | bdl | this isnt for a school or non-profit is it? |
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| 00:53.18 | thorie | no its for a company |
| 00:53.21 | bdl | hmm |
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| 00:53.31 | thorie | i graduated with a computer science degree a few years ago |
| 00:53.33 | FieldySnuts | anyway you want to be in #openbsd , all i can tell you |
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| 00:53.43 | MasterChief | abrotman: I went to that channel and noone is talkin |
| 00:53.56 | thorie | i thought i'd be programming, i love software engineering, opengl programming, and stuff like that |
| 00:53.59 | treyh0 | thorie: i feel your pain, they expect me to administer their webserver and mail server 24/7 |
| 00:54.06 | treyh0 | at least i get a free cell phone |
| 00:54.19 | thorie | and then, i get my first job... and instead of a compiler i get the password to their e-mail server and they tell me to fix it |
| 00:54.27 | bdl | MasterChief> Try these: http://www.google.com/search?&q=proftpd%20linux%20add%20user and http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ProFTPD |
| 00:54.29 | treyh0 | lol |
| 00:54.30 | abrotman | MasterChief: what kind of authentication ? |
| 00:54.32 | FieldySnuts | i was hired on as a linux admin yet i end up dealing with windows "servers" here and there. fuck, i hate that. but i always cover my ass "okay, this isn't my job and I can't guarantee it but I will try since you told me" |
| 00:54.41 | FieldySnuts | hehe and I got a phone too, i can do anything I want with it, they don't bitch |
| 00:54.59 | FieldySnuts | tip: if you get an admin job, pretend you don't have a phone so they get you one :P (I didn't have to pretend, I really don't have one of my own) |
| 00:55.14 | thorie | FieldySnuts: but it *is* my job... when they hired me, they made me sign a document that said, "willing to do some IT administration" and i figured, "oh sure... i can do some." |
| 00:55.18 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: i've almost gotten fired because i won't give them my phone number |
| 00:55.27 | FieldySnuts | well then that's your mistake, so please stop telling us about it. |
| 00:55.35 | abrotman | thorie: did you ask #openbsd ? |
| 00:55.37 | thorie | FieldySnuts: yeah i know... I learned my mistake :( The Hard way. |
| 00:55.43 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: for HR purposes I can understand... but past that, fuck them |
| 00:55.47 | bdl | BTDT |
| 00:55.51 | treyh0 | i doubt the bsd camp is one to help |
| 00:55.57 | FieldySnuts | thorie: those are the best lessons, actually.. |
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| 00:56.07 | thorie | FieldySnuts: how so??? doesnt feel that way right now |
| 00:56.09 | FieldySnuts | treyh0: well he needs to start there |
| 00:56.16 | MasterChief | abrotman: I don't know. Sorry I'm new. Basically all I want to do is have a server that lets me have users like mysite.com/theresubdir. I also want them to be able to connect to thier subdir with ftp. |
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| 00:56.28 | FieldySnuts | thorie: course not. later though, you might be faced with a similar situation of signing something, and go "oh hell no" |
| 00:56.31 | abrotman | MasterChief: you're not an admin are you ? |
| 00:56.43 | thorie | FieldySnuts: yeah |
| 00:56.46 | MasterChief | Yes, I am. |
| 00:56.50 | abrotman | MasterChief: you are ? |
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| 00:57.00 | thorie | FieldySnuts: why can't people teach me these things in advance though?? |
| 00:57.01 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: and yet .. i can't find a new job :) |
| 00:57.04 | FieldySnuts | yes, you can add users to proftpd and not the system. you will want to visit proftpds web site and read the docs, spend some time with them |
| 00:57.18 | thorie | FieldySnuts: besides, when you are desperate you will sign anything |
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| 00:57.30 | Vlat- | hi there |
| 00:57.35 | FieldySnuts | the more i talk to "admins" in my industry, the more I realize I have 12.5 times the clue most people who call themselves "admins" do... and realize how much I'm really worth (a lot) |
| 00:57.37 | MasterChief | I own the server and have access to it. |
| 00:58.02 | thorie | FieldySnuts: i highly respect all real admins. just as much as any C++ programmer |
| 00:58.09 | FieldySnuts | going to #proftpd even in the middle of a weekday is unfortunately useless, I have NEVER gotten a reply out of them. read the docs at the web site, join the mailing list, you can do what you are tryign to do |
| 00:58.21 | FieldySnuts | thorie: exactly. I'm not a programmer, ic ouldn't do it to save my life. I can respect it. |
| 00:58.27 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: there's one guy there with *fantastic* docs |
| 00:58.35 | sparr_ | I zero'd out my partition tables, rebooted. drives showed as unpartitioned, no sign of RAID anywhere on the system. repartitioned the drives, still no sign of RAID. rebooted, and now /proc/mdstat has restored all 8 RAID volumes. W T F. if i cant fix this by the time i go to sleep then im just gonna resort to zeroing the entire drives overnight |
| 00:58.38 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: yeah, tj saunders or something |
| 00:58.39 | sparr_ | FieldySnuts: :( |
| 00:58.46 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: really good stuff |
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| 00:58.58 | FieldySnuts | though I still don't get the config file, it really irritates me |
| 00:59.03 | FieldySnuts | probably try vsftpd down the line |
| 00:59.03 | sparr_ | so, once again, I ask... how can i delete RAID volumes created with mdadm? |
| 00:59.19 | abrotman | sparr_: tell the system they aren't raid drives |
| 00:59.20 | thorie | FieldySnuts: admins are such a huge part of everything... they are the drummers in the band. they are the ones keeping the beat and keeping the song together. and they dont get as much respect as they should, because it looks like (from a distance) there ain't much to it |
| 00:59.23 | FieldySnuts | dunno, raid-howto maybe, it's been a long time since i messed with software raid |
| 00:59.32 | thorie | FieldySnuts: do you know what I mean? |
| 00:59.40 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: why? .. cause it sucks rocks ? :) |
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| 00:59.46 | FieldySnuts | thorie: being a full time admin yeah. the only time we're noticed is when shit breaks |
| 00:59.46 | sparr_ | abrotman: HOW? |
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| 00:59.57 | FieldySnuts | sparr_: comment out everything in raidtab? |
| 00:59.59 | sparr_ | abrotman: i dont even know how it knows they are RAID drives. its like magic |
| 01:00.00 | FieldySnuts | that's a guess |
| 01:00.06 | sparr_ | FieldySnuts: i dont have a raidtab, or a mdadm.conf |
| 01:00.06 | FieldySnuts | raidtab is how |
| 01:00.11 | FieldySnuts | wtf? |
| 01:00.15 | abrotman | sparr_: if you can't tell the system it's not a raid drive .. then software raid sucks way more than i previously thought |
| 01:00.24 | FieldySnuts | any time i've used software raid, i have had to set up an /etc/raidtab |
| 01:00.26 | abrotman | sparr_: you're 100% sure it's not hw raid ? |
| 01:00.29 | FieldySnuts | so i have no idea |
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| 01:00.31 | thorie | FieldySnuts: and when stuff breaks, people get pissed as YOU |
| 01:00.39 | sparr_ | abrotman: yes, 100% |
| 01:00.42 | bdl | is there a startup script controlling your raid config? |
| 01:00.48 | sparr_ | bdl: not that i can find |
| 01:00.53 | js | sparr_: i got this drive that has a partition table which always resets, no matter what i write to it |
| 01:00.57 | thorie | FieldySnuts: which makes no sense, because without YOU there wouldn't even be anything at all and nobody would be able to fix it |
| 01:01.02 | FieldySnuts | thorie: oh. EXTREMELY Pissed, it can be stressfull. then they keep bothering you to the point you can't even fix the problem, i've had to unplug phones and lock doors, pissing management off, to get shit done |
| 01:01.03 | js | sparr_: perhaps youre experiencing something similar |
| 01:01.15 | sparr_ | js: no, the partition table is working fine. its following exactly what i put on it. the problem is that the RAID volumes keep coming back |
| 01:01.17 | jasoncohen | for some reason my clock is set to 1 AM an i'm in EDT |
| 01:01.21 | FieldySnuts | hehe i got an "involuntary vacation" of a week because i did that once |
| 01:01.26 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: my bosses know when to leave me alone |
| 01:01.27 | jasoncohen | it should be 9 PM. I set it to EDT but it's still showing as 1 |
| 01:01.28 | FieldySnuts | lame, but oh well |
| 01:01.31 | js | sparr_: did you mdadm -r device? |
| 01:01.33 | thorie | FieldySnuts: how come people treat admin's like the bottom of the pile? |
| 01:01.35 | abrotman | jasoncohen: UTC |
| 01:01.42 | abrotman | thorie: because we're an expense |
| 01:01.53 | FieldySnuts | thorie: they think things Just Work magically, and when they don't, they tend to think we did something to break it |
| 01:01.56 | MasterChief | Can someone just tell me what to type in to create a new user, and set their password. |
| 01:02.03 | sparr_ | js: yes, i have. |
| 01:02.03 | FieldySnuts | when the truth is things are broken by default |
| 01:02.11 | jasoncohen | abrotman, it's showing as UTC. When i change to EDT nothing happens and ntpdate returns it to UTC. how do i fix this? |
| 01:02.13 | abrotman | thorie: and if you're a good admin .. you do your job right the first time .. and hopefully stuff never breaks .. you're an insurance policy |
| 01:02.20 | trave11er | MasterChief: adduser |
| 01:02.21 | jasoncohen | abrotman, it began after installing ubuntu. ubuntu must have set the clock wrong |
| 01:02.23 | abrotman | jasoncohen: tzconfig .. i think |
| 01:02.25 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: that's true |
| 01:02.34 | MasterChief | thanks you |
| 01:02.36 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: sad .. but true :) |
| 01:02.39 | jasoncohen | Your current time zone is set to America/New_York |
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| 01:02.44 | jasoncohen | it's set correctly |
| 01:02.45 | FieldySnuts | well, it can be an advantage. |
| 01:02.51 | abrotman | jasoncohen: sounds like ubuntu did it |
| 01:02.51 | FieldySnuts | but if stuff goes south, holy shit look out |
| 01:03.03 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: yeah .. but i haven't had anything go south in a while |
| 01:03.15 | FieldySnuts | i have only had things go seriously south twice. and they were both caused by my boss. |
| 01:03.15 | MasterChief | adduser doesnt work |
| 01:03.16 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: except the samba server .. which was faulty hardware |
| 01:03.16 | sparr_ | this is ridiculous. i cant even figure out where the data is coming from |
| 01:03.23 | thorie | admin's are viewed as LAZY and USELESS when things are working smoothly, because they don't have to work as much... and they are considered INCOMPETENT and STUPID when things break and they actually do have to start working |
| 01:03.24 | sparr_ | it has to be getting the volume information FROM somewhere |
| 01:03.28 | sparr_ | but i dont know what IT is |
| 01:03.30 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: but cpuburn took care of the box :) |
| 01:03.31 | sparr_ | or where SOMEWHERE is |
| 01:03.38 | FieldySnuts | on a weekend, he thought he could just use webmin to modify the settings for samba... which was being a domain controller. he broke it. |
| 01:03.51 | FieldySnuts | because he won't give me overtime, i didn't find out until monday, and not until i discovered it myself. |
| 01:03.53 | jasoncohen | Local time is now: Sat Jun 4 21:03:22 EDT 2005. Universal Time is now: Sun Jun 5 01:03:22 UTC 2005. |
| 01:04.03 | FieldySnuts | so i caught hell, but I made sure they knew who really caused it |
| 01:04.07 | thorie | so regardless of what the situation is, admins are either USELESS or INCOMPETENT from a typical end-user point of view |
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| 01:04.20 | FieldySnuts | thorie: pretty much. people think we sit in a nice office and don't do shit all day. |
| 01:04.30 | thorie | FieldySnuts: that sucks man |
| 01:04.31 | FieldySnuts | which IS true once in a while, but no way is it most of the time |
| 01:04.37 | FieldySnuts | and they think we're overpaid |
| 01:04.52 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: you're not? :) |
| 01:04.54 | evand | awww, poor admins... I will say I've worked around admins I thought were competent |
| 01:05.09 | evand | but then again, they never heard about it, because I almost never saw them :p |
| 01:05.10 | FieldySnuts | i ended up working 18 hours a day 7 days a week for 3 weeks for this place once... yeah, easy job. |
| 01:05.23 | FieldySnuts | me and one other guy pulling 12,000 feet of cable, with no help |
| 01:05.26 | FieldySnuts | easy job right? |
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| 01:05.33 | FieldySnuts | hehe anyway |
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| 01:05.52 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: i feel your pain .. and even when you're right .. bosses don't listen to you |
| 01:05.53 | evand | heh, I haven't pulled near that much in my entire life :) |
| 01:06.02 | thorie | FieldySnuts: so is admin even WORTH it??? ? ? |
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| 01:06.15 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: that's how i ended up with a shitty exchange server .. that totally sucks ass ... and the boss decided after 3 months of using to find a replacement |
| 01:06.19 | FieldySnuts | thorie: definately. i do what i like, and I can go mostly anywhere and do it |
| 01:06.42 | abrotman | thorie: admins are always worth it |
| 01:06.42 | FieldySnuts | if I get pissed enough, i can wait a few weeks and work somewhere else and tell them to buzz off |
| 01:06.47 | FieldySnuts | which is what I'm doing right now |
| 01:06.49 | thorie | FieldySnuts: yeah i guess if you can ignore everyone's crappy attitude, its ok |
| 01:07.08 | abrotman | i'm the one with the crappy attitude :) |
| 01:07.17 | abrotman | not really .. but they think i'm angry all the time |
| 01:07.25 | FieldySnuts | i only get an attitude with windows admins, fuck I can't stand working with them |
| 01:07.31 | thorie | C++ programmers usually get static from end-users who get what they asked for, and not what they think they asked for |
| 01:07.36 | FieldySnuts | i've met a few who really knew their stuff, but so very few |
| 01:07.54 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: they suffer from the shiny/new syndrome .. badly |
| 01:07.57 | evand | the ones who know their stuff decide unix is friendlier :) |
| 01:07.58 | FieldySnuts | always a strong anti-anything-not-windows attitude which gets REALLY Old |
| 01:07.58 | thorie | similar story in this arena too |
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| 01:08.20 | FieldySnuts | I have an extremely, EXTREMELY strong anti-not-unix attitude, but I NEVER show it at work.. that's unprofessional |
| 01:08.21 | jasoncohen | abrotman, i got it back to EDT but i apparently had to restart KDE for it to take affect. It was showing the correct time in "adjust date & time' but not on the clock itself |
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| 01:08.39 | abrotman | jasoncohen: that's pretty odd .. but i don't use kde .. can't really comment on that issue |
| 01:08.45 | FieldySnuts | yuck it's hot in here. |
| 01:08.51 | WiFiTux | :( something is fulling my kern.log and is 500MB!! :( |
| 01:08.56 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: aren't you in the midwest ? |
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| 01:08.59 | FieldySnuts | and my disk drive is sitting at 46C... usually 30C |
| 01:09.01 | evand | jasoncohen: that's weird. whenever ntpdate changes things here, the clock updates |
| 01:09.09 | jasoncohen | abrotman, it was all ubuntu's doing. i noticed the problem as soon as i installed it |
| 01:09.18 | abrotman | jasoncohen: delete it :) |
| 01:09.36 | evand | FieldySnuts: and here I thought AC was supposed to be one of the perks of IT :) |
| 01:09.37 | FieldySnuts | drive is roasting... i have to go anyway, shut it down for the night |
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| 01:09.48 | FieldySnuts | evand: at work yeah, 62F room... not here at home |
| 01:09.56 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:09.57 | evand | FieldySnuts: ah-hah :( |
| 01:09.59 | jasoncohen | evand, actually the problem was that ntpdate was undoing my manual time change |
| 01:10.13 | abrotman | damn it .. where does that stupid setting get set for the UTC thingie ? |
| 01:10.14 | evand | jasoncohen: ah, weird |
| 01:10.23 | jasoncohen | evand, it was setting to UTC rather than EDT |
| 01:10.27 | abrotman | /etc/defaults ... i thought |
| 01:10.30 | abrotman | default |
| 01:10.33 | jasoncohen | even though tzconfig showed EDT |
| 01:10.35 | jasoncohen | oh well |
| 01:10.42 | thorie | i regularly delete files in unix just to see if i need them or not... if something goes wrong, i undelete the file... but then i realize, "oh crap! i can't undelete files in unix!" and then the cycle continues, over and over and over |
| 01:10.45 | evand | jasoncohen: hmm. I think I have it configured to run UTC internally ever since I got rid of windows |
| 01:10.47 | abrotman | ah /etc/default/rcS |
| 01:10.59 | thorie | unix is not friendly for the "delete-and-check" type of user |
| 01:10.59 | sparr_ | one thing i will say for certain, i shall never worry about losing RAID volume data after this, the shit is impossible to get rid of |
| 01:11.07 | jasoncohen | abrotman, do you know how to overwrite the ubuntu grub loader with the debian grub loader? |
| 01:11.16 | abrotman | jasoncohen: just install grub ... |
| 01:11.17 | jasoncohen | currently it's using the ubuntu one so i can't change the default selection from debian |
| 01:11.19 | abrotman | grub-install |
| 01:11.41 | evand | thorie: so change to "mv and check" :) |
| 01:11.43 | thorie | in windows, i delete a lot of source files to see if my program compiles, and then i undelete them as the make errors appear... so i know which ones i need and which ones i dont... i can recover from the recycle bin |
| 01:11.57 | thorie | evand: its too late, its a habit to delete |
| 01:12.06 | evand | heh :) |
| 01:12.17 | thorie | rm rm rm rm -rf rm -rf . rm -rf / |
| 01:12.20 | evand | well, for things like source code and docs and such, cvs id good for you anyway ;) |
| 01:12.28 | WiFiTux | :( |
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| 01:12.54 | jasoncohen | abrotman, grub-install just shows me the help. should i do grub-install --rot-directory=/ ? |
| 01:13.02 | jasoncohen | --root-directory=/ |
| 01:13.07 | abrotman | jasoncohen: no .. grub-install <device> |
| 01:13.12 | abrotman | ie .. /dev/hda .. or whatever |
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| 01:13.18 | abrotman | might want to update-grub first |
| 01:13.42 | WiFiTux | a |
| 01:13.43 | jasoncohen | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.44 | _brasil_ | anyone can help-me how to set my dns-server in demudi 1.2.1 ? plz !!! |
| 01:13.47 | abrotman | /dev/hda |
| 01:13.58 | abrotman | !d-i _brasil_ |
| 01:13.59 | dpkg | _brasil_, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:14.09 | abrotman | we don't support demudi here |
| 01:14.20 | _brasil_ | <abrotman> i know |
| 01:14.26 | WiFiTux | My /var/log is getting like crazy full, with messages, kern.log, debug and others., what could be wrong? this is crzy |
| 01:14.28 | _brasil_ | <abrotman> than\k you |
| 01:14.35 | jasoncohen | abrotman, "This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map." that correct? |
| 01:14.42 | jasoncohen | it installed to (hd0) /dev/hda |
| 01:14.45 | abrotman | jasoncohen: if it looks right .. should be |
| 01:14.50 | abrotman | jasoncohen: i don't know your system |
| 01:14.58 | abrotman | jasoncohen: not sata drives ? |
| 01:15.19 | jasoncohen | abrotman, no- one IDE |
| 01:15.22 | jasoncohen | it's on a laptop |
| 01:15.25 | abrotman | should be /dev/hda then |
| 01:15.35 | jasoncohen | ok, now i guess i'll reboot and test it out |
| 01:15.43 | jasoncohen | update-grub shows all my kernels |
| 01:15.57 | abrotman | hopefully works :) |
| 01:16.00 | abrotman | !bless jasoncohen |
| 01:16.01 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless your child jasoncohen, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
| 01:16.15 | WiFiTux | help? :( |
| 01:16.17 | jasoncohen | lol, thanks |
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| 01:17.43 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: drive cooled down already ? |
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| 01:18.05 | swim | hey, I need to install deb on a drive that is connected to ide 3... raid/ata other distros seem to recognize it as a regular ide drive but sarge doesnt... anyone know anoything about this? |
| 01:18.17 | abrotman | wtf is ide 3 ? |
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| 01:18.33 | swim | i have four ide connetions |
| 01:18.35 | FieldySnuts | or 2 much less |
| 01:18.48 | abrotman | you mean .. the secondary master ? |
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| 01:19.26 | swim | no 4 seperate connectors... the motherboard has built in ata/raid connectors, and you can use those two as regular ide connectors |
| 01:19.43 | Supaplex | abrotman: the controller wouldn't be a master. |
| 01:19.57 | abrotman | Supaplex: uhm .. wtf are you talking about ? |
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| 01:20.05 | abrotman | it's the secondary controller .. master drive |
| 01:20.12 | Xinux | ugh |
| 01:20.17 | Supaplex | that'd be hdX not ideX |
| 01:20.26 | abrotman | Supaplex: read his fucking question |
| 01:20.26 | Xinux | my chmods got f'ed up |
| 01:20.28 | abrotman | idiot |
| 01:20.30 | Xinux | now things won't loa |
| 01:20.32 | Xinux | load |
| 01:20.38 | swim | anyways |
| 01:20.43 | Supaplex | abrotman: oh gee, that raises your iq. |
| 01:21.02 | jasoncohen | abrotman, back |
| 01:21.02 | abrotman | Supaplex: read his question .. do you know what ide 3 is you fucking genius ? |
| 01:21.07 | jasoncohen | abrotman, worked fine |
| 01:21.07 | abrotman | jasoncohen: all good ? |
| 01:21.10 | abrotman | yay |
| 01:21.47 | Xinux | well, you guys are mature :) |
| 01:21.56 | jasoncohen | thanks |
| 01:22.07 | abrotman | Xinux: chmod got fucked up ? |
| 01:22.07 | Xinux | lol |
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| 01:22.11 | Xinux | yeah... |
| 01:22.16 | Xinux | i just rebooted the system and they reset |
| 01:22.17 | abrotman | chmod of what ? |
| 01:22.28 | Xinux | ~/.fluxbox/ |
| 01:22.35 | Xinux | ~/.xchat2/ |
| 01:22.39 | abrotman | why would you chmod those ?> |
| 01:22.44 | Xinux | ummm |
| 01:22.45 | gvandora | Can anyone tell me why this doesn't work? find -name "*.mp3" -exec "chmod -x {}" ; |
| 01:22.50 | Xinux | so that xchat can load scripts |
| 01:22.54 | Xinux | and fluxbox can load the menus |
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| 01:23.04 | abrotman | Xinux: that doesn't make sense |
| 01:23.09 | Xinux | ............................. |
| 01:23.16 | abrotman | Xinux: you should own those folders |
| 01:23.25 | gvandora | bash says "missing argument to '-exec'" |
| 01:23.28 | Xinux | bash: /home/Decrypt/.xchat2/sysinfo.pl: Permission denied |
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| 01:23.29 | swim | whats a folder :P |
| 01:23.56 | trave11er | gvandora: you need to escape {} |
| 01:24.00 | trave11er | i would guess |
| 01:24.00 | Xinux | i donno |
| 01:24.23 | Xinux | i tried chmod -r ~/.xchat2/ |
| 01:24.24 | trave11er | gvandora: a cleaner way is find . -name '*.mp3' | xargs chmod -x |
| 01:24.31 | abrotman | Xinux: chmod +x sysinfo.pl ? |
| 01:24.42 | Xinux | i need to chmod whole folders |
| 01:24.48 | gvandora | traveller: is that gonna choke on file names w/ spaces? |
| 01:24.54 | dondelelcaro | even better, find . -type f -name '*.mp3' -print0|xargs -0 chmod -x; |
| 01:25.17 | trave11er | gvandora: good question, i don |
| 01:25.20 | trave11er | gvandora: good question, i don't know |
| 01:25.28 | Supaplex | then use find . -name '*.mp3' -print0 | xargs -0 chmod -x |
| 01:25.34 | dondelelcaro | gvandora: the variant that I gave won't. |
| 01:25.38 | Xinux | anybody |
| 01:25.39 | gvandora | trying.... |
| 01:25.45 | Xinux | willing to help me chmod it back? |
| 01:25.59 | FieldySnuts | man chmod |
| 01:26.50 | Xinux | brb |
| 01:26.53 | Xinux | i think i got it |
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| 01:27.59 | abrotman | i still don't understand why he wants to do that |
| 01:28.08 | abrotman | but i'll let chealer help him when he comes back :) |
| 01:28.21 | chealer | heh...what's the issue? :) |
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| 01:28.38 | abrotman | chealer: wait for it ... |
| 01:28.41 | Xinux | yay |
| 01:28.52 | Xinux | i usually never need support |
| 01:28.56 | Xinux | i always fix it myself |
| 01:28.57 | Xinux | lol |
| 01:29.15 | abrotman | chealer: i think you're off the hook |
| 01:29.51 | evand | Xinux: I think you want -R, not -r, for recursive mode.... |
| 01:30.01 | Xinux | nah |
| 01:30.02 | Xinux | +r |
| 01:30.03 | Xinux | +w |
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| 01:30.34 | paulienyc | hello |
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| 01:30.50 | evand | do you just need to run chmod -R u+r [dir names], or is the problem messier in some way I'm not following? |
| 01:31.03 | Xinux | i already fixed it |
| 01:31.04 | Xinux | lol |
| 01:31.09 | evand | oh, nm then :) |
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| 01:31.13 | Xinux | :) |
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| 01:32.54 | fas3r | +++++++++++ |
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| 01:33.28 | paulienyc | hey |
| 01:33.29 | paulienyc | dpfodsp[]af |
| 01:34.06 | paulienyc | i have a ? |
| 01:34.09 | paulienyc | anyone there |
| 01:34.19 | Supaplex | paulienyc: no. we're not here. |
| 01:34.23 | abrotman | !ask |
| 01:34.23 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic (sicco)! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 01:34.27 | paulienyc | ok |
| 01:34.44 | paulienyc | i jsut installed ubuntu |
| 01:34.53 | paulienyc | a clone of debian i heard |
| 01:34.53 | chealer | abrotman: I thought you had figured at least that much about me already |
| 01:34.54 | evand | !ubuntu |
| 01:34.55 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879, or "Based on Debian" like Hollywood movies are "Based on a true story", or I'm not Debian but I play one on TV. |
| 01:35.01 | paulienyc | just looks different or somthing |
| 01:35.06 | abrotman | chealer: ? |
| 01:35.26 | Supaplex | paulienyc: and mandrake just *looks different* or something vs redhat. |
| 01:35.33 | Kizmet | !gentoo |
| 01:35.33 | dpkg | gentoo is, like, a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/, or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385, or rice rice rice rice |
| 01:35.40 | paulienyc | ok |
| 01:35.43 | paulienyc | my ? is |
| 01:35.49 | abrotman | paulienyc: #ubuntu |
| 01:35.52 | paulienyc | how do |
| 01:35.52 | Supaplex | paulienyc: you don't get it do you? |
| 01:35.53 | paulienyc | i |
| 01:35.57 | chealer | abrotman: sorry, I'm going to switch in intelligible mode soon |
| 01:36.07 | abrotman | chealer: unintelligible ? |
| 01:36.07 | chealer | abrotman: I mean...I hope I will... |
| 01:36.16 | paulienyc | i did not get my ? answered in #ubuntu |
| 01:36.19 | paulienyc | so i am here now |
| 01:36.24 | paulienyc | cause they are similar distros |
| 01:36.26 | abrotman | paulienyc: #ubuntu |
| 01:36.28 | paulienyc | stop bustin my balls |
| 01:36.30 | Kizmet | well go back and wait ! |
| 01:36.31 | abrotman | that's two |
| 01:36.50 | abrotman | debian is NOT ubuntu .. ubuntu is NOT debian |
| 01:36.58 | paulienyc | anyone gonna help or am i gonna sit here in shame |
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| 01:37.11 | FieldySnuts | not if you're going to be a cock about it |
| 01:37.14 | abrotman | go to #ubuntu .. please .. this is #debian |
| 01:37.21 | paulienyc | i have already |
| 01:37.23 | Kizmet | paulienyc: i suggest that you leave this channel and goto #ubuntu. ok!!!!! |
| 01:37.24 | Supaplex | paulienyc: by the same logic you could argue mandrake and redhat are similar. don't expect us to handle someone else's distro, sorry. |
| 01:37.25 | evand | most likely the latter.... I would also suggest google, linuxquestions.org, etc |
| 01:37.30 | FieldySnuts | no shit, go there already, you are in the WRONG CHANNEL AND BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HELP YOU DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN SO FUCK OFF ALREADY |
| 01:37.56 | paulienyc | u guys are a joke |
| 01:37.58 | LinuxJones | paulienyc, ask in #ubuntu again dude |
| 01:38.00 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:38.00 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:38.00 | paulienyc | suck my dick niggers |
| 01:38.05 | FieldySnuts | @ops paulienyc trolling |
| 01:38.06 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: paulienyc trolling |
| 01:38.07 | abrotman | paulienyc: please go .. |
| 01:38.08 | paulienyc | swallow my cum too motherfuckers |
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| 01:38.14 | LinuxJones | paulienyc, ok don't ask in #ubuntu idiot |
| 01:38.15 | Supaplex | make us |
| 01:38.22 | FieldySnuts | thank you!! |
| 01:38.25 | abrotman | k-lined ? |
| 01:38.27 | abrotman | damn .. that's good |
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| 01:38.37 | Kizmet | :) |
| 01:38.50 | dvs | I probably asked this before but what does k-lined mean? |
| 01:38.56 | abrotman | !k-line |
| 01:38.56 | Rez | looked like porn spam to me... |
| 01:39.03 | abrotman | Rez: really ? |
| 01:39.05 | dvs | !k-lined |
| 01:39.13 | abrotman | dvs: the staff killed him |
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| 01:39.29 | dvs | abrotman: Oh. That is good then. |
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| 01:39.31 | Rez | abrotman: "<paulienyc> swallow my cum too motherfuckers" |
| 01:39.32 | FieldySnuts | banned from the entire server |
| 01:39.49 | dvs | How can the staff monitor the entire server? That's baffles me! |
| 01:39.50 | abrotman | Rez: heh |
| 01:40.00 | abrotman | dvs: there are a few of them here |
| 01:40.01 | Rez | dvs: we see all :) |
| 01:40.02 | alindeman | Carefully ;) |
| 01:40.02 | demon | anyone know if there's a way to automate the selection of a set of locales to compile when installing the locales package as part of a debootstrap? |
| 01:40.08 | dvs | Uh oh |
| 01:40.26 | abrotman | dvs: three here usually i know of .. err four |
| 01:40.37 | abrotman | at least .. if not more |
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| 01:41.30 | demon | anybody? |
| 01:41.31 | abrotman | dvs: and i'm not even looking for them :) |
| 01:41.48 | abrotman | demon: you could prefill the file i suppose |
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| 01:42.11 | evand | abrotman: fortunately, we have people like paulienyc to find them for us :) |
| 01:42.27 | abrotman | evand: well .. rez is an op here and a ircop |
| 01:42.40 | dvs | and an irc cop |
| 01:42.44 | abrotman | i said that |
| 01:42.49 | Bac9 | abrotman: you could have at least let him ask the question |
| 01:42.55 | abrotman | Bac9: who ? |
| 01:43.09 | evand | Bac9: well, he was being kinda an ass about it... |
| 01:43.11 | Bac9 | abrotman: paulienyc |
| 01:43.13 | abrotman | Bac9: no .. he's using ubuntu |
| 01:43.27 | Bac9 | evand: he was kinda shut out a tad, don't you think? |
| 01:43.35 | evand | Bac9: yeah, I do |
| 01:43.39 | Bac9 | abrotman: so? there are some similarities |
| 01:43.42 | abrotman | Bac9: will #reactos answer my questions about athenos ? |
| 01:43.56 | Bac9 | abrotman: and even if you didn't want to answer, someone else might have |
| 01:44.09 | abrotman | Bac9: yes .. in #ubuntu |
| 01:44.18 | evand | Bac9: but there really are limited support resources, and there are other places that make it their business to help ubuntu users |
| 01:44.24 | Bac9 | abrotman: maybe, if there's anyone there who knows about it |
| 01:44.34 | abrotman | Bac9: are you personally going to support every person that comes in here with a debian-derived-distro question ? |
| 01:44.52 | abrotman | Bac9: do you iknow how many debian-derived-distros there are ? |
| 01:44.55 | Bac9 | evand: "support resources" are for paid support, for voluntary support I help with what I can |
| 01:45.10 | evand | Bac9: that doesn't make them unlimited |
| 01:45.23 | Bac9 | abrotman: if I can help then I try, no mater even if it's win32 |
| 01:45.35 | Bac9 | evand: true, but you never know |
| 01:45.45 | evand | Bac9: the people here are a limited resource, which should be used toward debian-related questions, not ubuntu ones, particularly when there's #ubuntu, linuxquestions.org, etc |
| 01:45.55 | Bac9 | abrotman: pardon me for being nice |
| 01:46.11 | abrotman | Bac9: i mean .. you didn't jump up and ask .. or offer to help him in the CORRECT channel |
| 01:46.17 | evand | Bac9: I think that's an admirable thing to do, and I try to do the same |
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| 01:46.32 | Bac9 | evand: and what aout people who are idling because they can't answer any debian related questions currently out, maybe they'd answer other questions |
| 01:47.05 | Bac9 | abrotman: I didn't even have a chance to read his question |
| 01:47.12 | Bac9 | evand: thanx |
| 01:47.20 | evand | Bac9: limited resource isn't just time on irc -- it takes time away from other things they were doing, which means they might not answer deb questions later, and also adds to frustration levels etc |
| 01:47.26 | abrotman | Bac9: you could have said "paulienyc: please come to #ubuntu and i'll help you there" |
| 01:47.49 | abrotman | why am i even discussing this .. #debian doesn't support debian-derived-distros |
| 01:48.23 | Bac9 | evand: or people like me who answer any question they can (if I know the answer that is) which isn't really much... so I hardly see how this is the case for a slow day in #debian |
| 01:48.36 | Bac9 | abrotman: I am not in #ubuntu |
| 01:48.38 | evand | Bac9: grand scheme of things, it's not |
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| 01:48.58 | abrotman | Bac9: but you could be |
| 01:49.02 | Bac9 | evand: so what exactly are we debating then? |
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| 01:49.05 | evand | Bac9: but making the distinction clear is a good thing nonetheless |
| 01:49.16 | Papiertiger | Hi guys i'm trying to compile the wacom-drivers and they need the xf86Version.h, which doesn't seem to be included in the debian dev-packages. Any tip how to solve this prob? |
| 01:49.19 | Bac9 | abrotman: I can't really track too many rooms simultaneously |
| 01:49.19 | evand | Bac9: I think you should have offered to help in #ubuntu |
| 01:49.35 | abrotman | Papiertiger: xlibs-dev |
| 01:49.40 | abrotman | !tell Papiertiger about search |
| 01:49.47 | Bac9 | evand: destinction yes, pushing the guy out without letting him say another word is a tad rude though |
| 01:49.54 | quitte | now taht debmake doesnt work anymore, what example debian dir should i use as an example for package creation now? |
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| 01:49.58 | abrotman | Papiertiger: that should get you the .h you need |
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| 01:50.17 | Bac9 | evand: how can I offer to help anywhere if I don't know what the question is and hence don't know if I could actually help? |
| 01:50.19 | evand | Bac9: sure, but he was also being rude. continuing to ask the question, as opposed to say asking what a better approach would be, is also rude |
| 01:50.32 | Papiertiger | I've already installed the xlibs-dev this headerfiles isn't shipped with this package |
| 01:50.43 | abrotman | Papiertiger: hrm .. are you sure that's the file ? |
| 01:50.45 | evand | Bac9: *shrugs* so you offer to go hear his question in #ubuntu, and maybe you don't have an answer |
| 01:51.03 | Bac9 | evand: I got the impression that he only got rude after repeatedly being forced out |
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| 01:51.22 | evand | Bac9: yeah, perhaps. but he did get *really* rude |
| 01:51.29 | Bac9 | evand: not really efficient... but yes a posible solution |
| 01:51.50 | Bac9 | evand: every person has their own limit to patience... his was just shorter then most |
| 01:52.01 | abrotman | Papiertiger: you sure ? |
| 01:52.02 | evand | Bac9: /join #ubuntu isn't really that hard, either :) |
| 01:52.02 | Xinux | sigh |
| 01:52.05 | Papiertiger | yep i'm sure. |
| 01:52.06 | Bac9 | evand: he didn't start out being rude, rather quite nice |
| 01:52.10 | Xinux | i gotta install gnome just for a few programs to work |
| 01:52.11 | Xinux | >.< |
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| 01:52.15 | abrotman | Papiertiger: got an error message with the missing file name ? |
| 01:52.32 | evand | Bac9: yeah, but some people get impatient and leave, or follow the advice given, rather than using foul language |
| 01:52.59 | Bac9 | evand: would you recomend I join every channel on freenode just in case someone has a question that I could answer? you never know what channel that might be in, but as you might guess it's not overly practical |
| 01:53.04 | Papiertiger | i searched the web for a solution, but everyone keeps telling me the file should be in the devs, even the wacomdebianhowto :( |
| 01:53.23 | Bac9 | evand: foul language is commonly a tool to vent frustration |
| 01:53.23 | Papiertiger | yes the configure-skript is complaining about that certainfile |
| 01:53.25 | abrotman | Papiertiger: error message line ? |
| 01:53.43 | sparr_ | i finally managed to mostly disable RAID by zeroing the superblocks and the partition tables and repartitioning the drives. now, i want to start over making RAID volumes, but when i try 'mdadm -Cv -l0 -n2 /dev/md0 /dev/hda2 /dev/hdc2' i get 'mdadm: ADD_NEW_DISK for /dev/hda2 failed: Device or resource busy' or 'mdadm: SET_ARRAY_INFO failed for /dev/md0: Device or resource busy', help? |
| 01:53.45 | Bac9 | ec: :-) |
| 01:53.50 | ec | Bac9: your right, i would need to be in atleast 15 channels! |
| 01:53.54 | evand | Bac9: no, I'm really not saying that... I'm saying that in cases like this one, people should respect the topic, and if you'd like to offer to help anyway, then *you* should speak up and offer |
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| 01:54.13 | abrotman | Bac9: no .. join the ones you can help in |
| 01:54.18 | Xinux | gnome is HDD intensive |
| 01:54.20 | Xinux | geeze |
| 01:54.30 | Xinux | 37 minutes to download |
| 01:54.30 | Bac9 | evand: in cases like this it's impolite to shut out a person so strongly, at least let him ask |
| 01:54.34 | abrotman | Bac9: answering questions for EVERY debian based distro .. would occupy all our time .. and end up with bad results |
| 01:54.40 | evand | Bac9: venting is fine, but expecting people to let you hang around while you vent at them, when you're the one offtopic, is unreasonable |
| 01:54.53 | Bac9 | abrotman: and how would I know which of those channels might have a question I can help with? |
| 01:55.00 | evand | Bac9: *shrugs* agreed |
| 01:55.20 | Bac9 | abrotman: so don't answer if you don't want to, but don't assume others in this channel might not want to answer |
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| 01:55.45 | abrotman | Bac9: you dont' understand .. we don't support debian based distros here |
| 01:55.50 | abrotman | i told him twice to go to #ubuntu |
| 01:55.55 | abrotman | !based on debian |
| 01:55.55 | evand | Bac9: you're missing the point: if others in this channel want to answer, they should *answer in #ubuntu* |
| 01:55.55 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 01:55.56 | Bac9 | evand: I was refering to the period of time before he started venting, and the reson he started |
| 01:55.59 | Papiertiger | abrotman: the script reports: Unable to compile wacom_drv.o without XF86 build environment |
| 01:56.08 | evand | Bac9: which they can join after the fact instead of always monitoring |
| 01:56.08 | abrotman | Papiertiger: but no missing file ? |
| 01:56.13 | petemc | Bac9: you might not be aware, but its a fairly contentious issue, and the powers that be have decided its off topic |
| 01:56.18 | Bac9 | abrotman: do you speak for every person in then channel? because you certainly aren't speaking for me |
| 01:56.30 | abrotman | Bac9: then go to #ubuntu and help him |
| 01:56.35 | Papiertiger | abrotman i checked what file the script is checking and thats the xf86Version.h |
| 01:56.43 | petemc | (theres nothing to stop someone not saying they're using ubuntu..) |
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| 01:56.55 | Bac9 | evand: fine, but they should at least know the question, for example I don't go to #flood unless I am expecting something there, same point |
| 01:57.01 | abrotman | Papiertiger: that's all it says ? |
| 01:57.20 | PhorceP | I'm not able to apt-get install libuim0 on sarge. I believe it is because of this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=304888 however the fix that the dev suggests doesn't work. I spoke with ethics about this earlier and he suggested I ask again later. Any suggestions? |
| 01:57.23 | evand | Bac9: well, if he'd followed the !ask advice, they would have ;) |
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| 01:57.47 | evand | PhorceP: still no luck? that looks like a sucky problem... |
| 01:58.07 | Bac9 | petemc: offtopic yes, but it's a tad rude to just shut out a person before letting them even ask... I believe there's an ongoing descussion about manners in the help channels... something about females not feeling welcome in male channels... same idea |
| 01:58.15 | offby1 | man, hundreds of megabytes of new stuff in sarge ... scary... |
| 01:58.16 | PhorceP | evand: Yeah, I couldn't stay awake long enough last night to hang out much past the two hours |
| 01:58.16 | abrotman | no it's not ... |
| 01:58.23 | abrotman | we don't fucking support ubuntu in this channel |
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| 01:58.42 | Bac9 | abrotman: that would require me to at least hear his question before knowing if I should go to another channel |
| 01:58.47 | abrotman | we don't fucking support ubuntu in this channel |
| 01:59.01 | dvs | abrotman: So what are you saying? |
| 01:59.11 | abrotman | ec: don't touch the stuff |
| 01:59.15 | evand | Bac9: if you want to get into the social aspects... then well, geeks are much better at behaving in a polite and useful manner when there are nice, simple, relatively rigid rules about etiquette |
| 01:59.16 | Bac9 | evand: he did try to ask, I'd say he followed it, he just was basically told to shut up before he could finish his question |
| 01:59.17 | Papiertiger | abrotman: yes that's all, this file is also mentioned in the wacom-documention as an indicator for the xfree-dev |
| 01:59.23 | petemc | Bac9: know nothing about it, i dont care much for politics, in any form :) |
| 01:59.24 | Bac9 | evand: and that sounded a tad rude |
| 01:59.25 | quitte | please stop it. |
| 01:59.30 | abrotman | Papiertiger: i'm looking |
| 01:59.47 | Bac9 | petemc: :-) |
| 01:59.56 | abrotman | god .. we just don't support ubuntu .. there's no question about it .. we just don't |
| 02:00.04 | evand | Bac9: I agree with you. I think it was rude. I also think it was relatively predictable |
| 02:00.14 | FieldySnuts | if he won't go away just friggin @ops him |
| 02:00.18 | Bac9 | evand: I believe there are peleanty of books written on the topic of etiquette, with quite rigid rules |
| 02:00.33 | evand | Bac9: I also think you lose a lot or right to complain when you don't offer to help |
| 02:00.54 | Bac9 | evand: I disagre on the predictable part, I don't have the feeling he would have been rude if he was at least let to ask his question |
| 02:00.57 | quitte | why does everybody have to agree on everything first to stop this argueing? |
| 02:01.09 | abrotman | i don't understand why you guys are even discussing this |
| 02:01.09 | evand | Bac9: and among those books, you will surely find that etiquette is circumstantial. and for the convenience of all, this channel has the basic rules posted. which *he* was the first to violate |
| 02:01.11 | Bac9 | evand: I try to offer help when I can |
| 02:01.15 | abrotman | he was using ubuntu .. this isn't #ubuntu |
| 02:01.21 | evand | quitte; you have a point there. I shall shut up now. |
| 02:01.28 | Papiertiger | abrotman: ok |
| 02:01.38 | sparr_ | Can anyone suggest what steps I might take to restore my new hard drives and RAID drivers (or lack thereof) to the state they were in yesterday before I started working on setting up my first RAID volumes? I have managed to mostly eliminate the volumes i created, but now when I try to create new ones i get 'device or resource busy' on the md device or the hd device |
| 02:01.50 | abrotman | Papiertiger: what's that url again ? |
| 02:01.59 | Bac9 | evand: as I recall etiquette, even if one side violates some rules it's still polite for the other side to at least try to turn the other cheek if you will |
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| 02:02.18 | evand | sparr_: is there important data on them? |
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| 02:02.32 | Bac9 | quitte: because it's a descussion channel, that's what people do, discuss |
| 02:02.34 | Papiertiger | abrotman: linuxwacom.sourceforge.net |
| 02:02.40 | pngwn | Bac9, my gawd can't you stfu |
| 02:02.48 | abrotman | not about ubuntu we don't |
| 02:02.49 | Bac9 | pngwn: :-) |
| 02:02.54 | quitte | Bac9 but it's offtopic |
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| 02:03.07 | quitte | we discuss debian not discussions |
| 02:03.15 | Bac9 | quitte: are you saying I should be banned too? |
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| 02:03.24 | abrotman | depends who you ask |
| 02:03.34 | Bac9 | quitte: and it's actually on topic as it's a discussion of how people interact in #debian |
| 02:03.41 | quitte | if you continue and pull me deeper in this argueing yes |
| 02:03.50 | evand | Bac9: I think he's doing a relatively patient and polite job of asking you to get back on topic |
| 02:03.58 | abrotman | Bac9: do you write articles for Ars Technica ? |
| 02:04.05 | Bac9 | abrotman: nope |
| 02:04.14 | Bac9 | evand: oh ok, thanx for the translation |
| 02:04.17 | abrotman | bah .. noone got the joke :) |
| 02:04.49 | e0n | hi, i'm trying to setup a NAP with a buetooth usb adapter on my debian box as a server, the client (laptop with xp) can connect to te server but I can't browse the net... anyone willing to help here? |
| 02:04.58 | abrotman | Papiertiger: libx11-dev doesn't have it ? |
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| 02:05.20 | Bac9 | Supaplex: did you have to do that? |
| 02:05.21 | sparr_ | evand: no, they are blank, save for partition tables and possibly (hopefully not) raid superblocks |
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| 02:05.39 | Supaplex | Bac9: yes. it was tempting, and I was impulsive. :) |
| 02:05.47 | Bac9 | Supaplex: :-) |
| 02:06.14 | evand | sparr_: then I would suggest going to single user mode to make sure nothing thinks they're in use, the dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/harddisk over the first few blocks |
| 02:06.30 | Papiertiger | abrotman: i've installed libx11-dev and the headerfile isn't contained in |
| 02:06.35 | evand | sparr_: that should convince them there aren't raid blocks on there :) |
| 02:06.41 | evand | sparr_: then back to normal mode and fdisk, etc |
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| 02:07.03 | erps | How do I (is there a way) set up additional user accounts for exim4 & pop -- without having to create a server shell acount? |
| 02:07.23 | abrotman | Papiertiger: i really can't find it anywhere .. you sure that's the right file ? |
| 02:07.27 | Bac9 | erps: /etc/aliases or somesuch |
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| 02:07.37 | abrotman | Papiertiger: i can't find that file in any package in any version of debian |
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| 02:08.17 | Bac9 | erps: but that's only if you want to alias incoming mail to an existing account |
| 02:08.30 | sparr_ | evand: ive already done that, well nigh a dozen times |
| 02:08.36 | Bac9 | erps: otherwise it depends on the pop server I think |
| 02:08.41 | evand | sparr_: oh. hrm. |
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| 02:08.56 | Bac9 | sparr_: a bios thing maybe? |
| 02:09.03 | sparr_ | evand: it never helped, backup raid superblocks came into effect. i finally discovered mdamd --zero-superblock just recently and it seems to have worked, but now i cannot recreate the volumes |
| 02:09.03 | makaveli | does anyone know how to set up a shortcut that would allow you to switch between workspaces |
| 02:09.36 | Bac9 | makaveli: depends on the wm |
| 02:09.37 | sparr_ | ishall try rebooting again |
| 02:09.47 | evand | sparr_: then I think I'm out of ideas, good luck :( |
| 02:10.00 | makaveli | bac9: like i have gnome |
| 02:10.18 | makaveli | bac9: or do u mean metacity |
| 02:10.18 | Bac9 | makaveli: sorry donno that one |
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| 02:10.37 | Bac9 | makaveli: it'd be whoever handles workspaces |
| 02:11.05 | makaveli | bac9: i know how to set up the hotkey i just don't know what the command would be or mor to say what i would tell the hotkey to execute |
| 02:11.15 | Xinux | i need to make a script to set my bg auto-matically when i boot up |
| 02:11.19 | erps | Bac9, yah. . I don't think I can get aroun wanting to use SASL for authentication on top of everything else and not actually create a user anyway :p Although I suppose I could direct their home directory for mail-only to somewhere else. |
| 02:11.23 | Xinux | fbsetbg ~/tux.jpg |
| 02:11.24 | Bac9 | makaveli: sorry donno those two |
| 02:11.29 | makaveli | oh ok |
| 02:11.42 | LinuxJones | makaveli, System>>Preferences>>Keyboard Shortcuts (in Gnome) |
| 02:11.48 | LinuxJones | bah |
| 02:11.53 | Xinux | laugh |
| 02:12.09 | Bac9 | erps: I recall reading some package descriptions that stated the server could be set up to have vertual users... but I don't recall which one |
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| 02:12.53 | erps | Bac9, ok. |
| 02:13.15 | erps | Bac9, silly thing of the day, I just realized I have absolutely no clue what pop server I'm using atm :p |
| 02:13.21 | erps | other than it works. |
| 02:13.22 | abrotman | erps: aliases is what you want from what it sounds like |
| 02:13.34 | Papiertiger | abrotman: I'm quite sure, watching the script. And users of other linuxdistributions seem to have it |
| 02:13.59 | abrotman | Papiertiger: you could email the Debian Project Leader .. ask him :) |
| 02:14.25 | Bac9 | erps: I prefer imap myself |
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| 02:15.00 | erps | abrotman, possibly... have virtual users set up. exim4 is authenticating via SASL which hits the /etc/passwd file for autehntication at the moment. And pop does essentially the same. |
| 02:15.19 | erps | Bac9, I actually like using both. That way the user chooses and I don't worry about it :p |
| 02:15.53 | Bac9 | erps: oh for public access yes, but for private I prefer imap so that I can store my e-mail on it and use any client I feel like |
| 02:16.18 | erps | Bac9, true. I have some famiy users that use the same server. |
| 02:16.25 | erps | err, family :p |
| 02:16.29 | e0n | hi, i'm trying to setup a NAP with a buetooth usb adapter on my debian box as a server, the client (laptop with xp) can connect to te server but I can't browse the net... anyone willing to help here? (the problem may be related with /etc/network/interfaces configuration) |
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| 02:16.43 | Papiertiger | abrotman: I think I'll do if i sleept another night about the problem. Just to be sure that it isn't one of the cases, where i don't see the wood for trees ;) |
| 02:17.03 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Hey everyone |
| 02:17.12 | TwistedLappy | Where is the sudo config file located? |
| 02:17.14 | Papiertiger | abrotman: thx for you help |
| 02:17.19 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Ive been inand out of here trying to get some help |
| 02:17.26 | mrwill | so, I've got mysql running, and all the separate threads are displayed as multiple processes, as per linuxthreads. isn't there a better threading library I can install on sarge that will make the mysql daemon display as just one process? or is it simply 'top' at fault? |
| 02:17.48 | trave11er | TMD-TheIOTOWER: /etc/sudoers |
| 02:18.01 | Bac9 | mrwill: that's just the way linux displays threads |
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| 02:18.21 | Xinux | how do i run gkrellm in the background ? |
| 02:18.28 | Xinux | as a background process? |
| 02:18.37 | Bac9 | mrwill: I think there were talks on changing that soon, but I know of no actual available implementation in Linus' tree |
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| 02:18.56 | abrotman | Papiertiger: erm .. ok |
| 02:18.59 | mrwill | Bac9: oh, ok. I thought it might be different for 2.6 or something, but maybe not. |
| 02:19.00 | Xinux | ugh |
| 02:19.02 | Xinux | guys |
| 02:19.13 | Bac9 | Xinux: there's a gkrellm daemon plugin/server thingy, use that |
| 02:19.15 | Xinux | anybody know how to run a program as a background process? |
| 02:19.24 | mrwill | Xinux: 'program&' |
| 02:19.38 | Bac9 | Xinux: or you meen just appending an ampersand kinda thing? |
| 02:19.39 | Xinux | gkrellm& ? |
| 02:19.57 | Xinux | i mean running the process in the background |
| 02:20.08 | Bac9 | mrwill: nope, i still see multiple lines per process (1/thread) |
| 02:20.08 | mrwill | Xinux: that will launch that process into the background, yes. |
| 02:20.15 | Xinux | kewl |
| 02:20.18 | Xinux | how easy :) |
| 02:20.25 | mrwill | Bac9: ok, I'm not going to worry about it then. thanks. |
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| 02:20.54 | Xinux | ugh that didn't work |
| 02:20.59 | Xinux | it ran it as a regular process |
| 02:21.02 | Xinux | its on the taskbar |
| 02:21.13 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | OK heres my probrlem I have a Digital hiNote ultra II and when I use a Ps/2 mouse it is fine but when I use the laptop mouse it freezez up |
| 02:21.16 | Bac9 | Xinux: and where do you want it to be? |
| 02:21.24 | Xinux | i don't want it to appear on the taskbar |
| 02:21.26 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | how Do I fix this problem? |
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| 02:22.03 | Bac9 | Xinux: it's an app that draws to screen, so it'll appear, but check with your taskbar if there's a way to hide from it |
| 02:22.17 | mrwill | TMD-TheIOTOWER: which kernel? and haven't I seen you on irc.criten.net? |
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| 02:22.52 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yes i serv there |
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| 02:22.58 | Xinux | dude i've seen gkrellm run without it being on the taskbar |
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| 02:23.12 | sparr_ | I would really appreciate any help in figuring out the cause of this error, hda2 is unformatted and nothing but mdadm should be touching it. "mdadm: ADD_NEW_DISK for /dev/hda2 failed: Device or resource busy" |
| 02:23.16 | evand | Xinux: I think gkrellm has an option to do that |
| 02:23.18 | Bac9 | Xinux: same taskbar as yours? then maybe there's a way, sorry donno |
| 02:23.22 | Xinux | yse |
| 02:23.23 | Xinux | yes |
| 02:23.26 | Xinux | same DE also |
| 02:23.43 | evand | sparr_: what does lsof|grep /dev/hda2 say? |
| 02:23.57 | mrwill | TMD-TheIOTOWER: neato, I like TMD releases a lot. |
| 02:24.04 | ec | Xinux, it may depend on your wm could also be e wm setting. I know fluxbox has a option like that. |
| 02:24.19 | evand | Xinux: have you checked the gkrellm settings?? |
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| 02:24.26 | Xinux | ya |
| 02:24.30 | Xinux | i've been looking in em |
| 02:24.32 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | the kernel is version 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 |
| 02:24.45 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Yeah ther top notch |
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| 02:25.27 | evand | Xinux: tried general -> properties -> "Do not include on a taskbar"? |
| 02:25.44 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | is there a fix for this problem? |
| 02:25.45 | Xinux | ahhh |
| 02:25.49 | Xinux | completely passed that |
| 02:25.49 | evand | :) |
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| 02:25.59 | Xinux | thx evand |
| 02:26.01 | mfrisch | How do you make a list of installed packages only? not dpkg -l |
| 02:26.04 | evand | np :) |
| 02:26.04 | mrwill | TMD-TheIOTOWER: hmmm, that's not what I expected, thought this might be problem upgrading to 2.6 from 2.4. I'm not sure what to tell you. |
| 02:26.06 | sparr_ | evand: nothing |
| 02:26.15 | evand | mfrisch: dpkg -l |grep ii |
| 02:26.21 | mrwill | TMD-TheIOTOWER: you might try a different mouse driver -- this is in Xfree86, right? |
| 02:26.25 | evand | sparr_: :( |
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| 02:26.46 | Xinux | i need a better bg |
| 02:26.48 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yes |
| 02:26.54 | Xinux | mines soo plain, just a symbol in the middle |
| 02:27.15 | mrplum | symbol of? |
| 02:27.27 | evand | Xinux: fractals are fun :) |
| 02:27.33 | mrwill | TMD-TheIOTOWER: maybe try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 as root. |
| 02:27.38 | mfrisch | no I mean just the package names? |
| 02:27.41 | mrwill | TMD-TheIOTOWER: see if that lets you pick a mouse driver. |
| 02:27.59 | abrotman | !moo |
| 02:27.59 | evand | mfrisch: same thing, but feed through a sed script? |
| 02:27.59 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939 |
| 02:28.38 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok tryinf reconfig now |
| 02:28.52 | evand | there's an apt-get moo option? I think someone was bored... |
| 02:28.58 | evand | funny tho :p |
| 02:29.03 | mfrisch | that won't help dpkg -l cuts off |
| 02:29.14 | abrotman | export COLUMNS=150 |
| 02:29.16 | abrotman | err |
| 02:29.19 | abrotman | export COLUMNS=150;dpkg -l |
| 02:29.37 | cafuego | iyee |
| 02:29.42 | mfrisch | abrotman thats it thanks!! |
| 02:29.59 | cafuego | just 'COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l' is fine too |
| 02:30.14 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | What do I do when i get there? Handle by debconf? or no |
| 02:30.14 | abrotman | http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?part=rss&tag=5731398&subj=news |
| 02:30.19 | abrotman | hehe .. apple sucks :) |
| 02:30.36 | evand | mfrisch: I think you want dpkg-query |
| 02:31.00 | evand | mfrisch: ie dpkg-query -l --show-format=something |
| 02:31.33 | evand | err... -W, not -l |
| 02:31.52 | mfrisch | got it THANKS |
| 02:32.10 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | OK what do I do when I reconfigure? |
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| 02:33.29 | poonj | if that happens... |
| 02:33.34 | poonj | apple would become a software company |
| 02:33.40 | poonj | who would buy their computers?! |
| 02:33.57 | Xinux | my desktop is starting to own :) |
| 02:33.58 | abrotman | poonj: price of OSX going up up up :) |
| 02:34.21 | poonj | heh |
| 02:34.32 | Xinux | got a cradle of filth bg |
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| 02:34.37 | abrotman | sadly .. doubt IBM cares .. they're selling chips to MS,Sony,Nintendo :) |
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| 02:34.48 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | si there anyone that knows if theres a fix for the Digital Hinote Ultra 2 laptop |
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| 02:35.14 | Xinux | WTF |
| 02:35.19 | Xinux | gnome is reinstalling everything... |
| 02:35.27 | Xinux | shit... |
| 02:36.24 | quitte | TMD-TheIOTOWER: describe the problem - maybe somebody can help then |
| 02:37.37 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I have a DIGITAL HINOTE uLTRA 2 AND i HAVE dEBIAN lINUX WITH x RUNNING gNOME BUT WHENEVER i USE THE lAPTOP mOUSE iT FREZZEZ U[P |
| 02:37.52 | sussudio | ... |
| 02:38.03 | dvs | !sing sunday |
| 02:38.03 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 02:38.07 | quitte | TMD-TheIOTOWER: and you got a broken keyboard. fix that first. then stop gpm |
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| 02:38.34 | ec | quitte: :) |
| 02:38.52 | quitte | well i doubt it'S a gpm problem |
| 02:39.52 | abrotman | tHAT sOUNDS lIKE a pROBLEM |
| 02:39.53 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | The keyboard and is fine when I use a ps/2 mouse it works fine |
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| 02:40.21 | jasoncohen | TMD-TheIOTOWER, lol, what's with the caps? |
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| 02:40.46 | evand | he's jus demonstrating that if you shout, people notice and respond :) |
| 02:40.50 | jasoncohen | anyone go through the trouble of porting ubuntu's update-manager to debian? |
| 02:40.58 | lanchow | what is the "sound server" that non-kde users have instead of arts ? |
| 02:41.03 | sussudio | !be ubuntu barbie |
| 02:41.09 | jasoncohen | it needs a few python2.4 packages that debian doesn't have unfortunately |
| 02:41.12 | quitte | evand: yes. to tell them to lower their voice |
| 02:41.14 | ec | jasoncohen: we had enough ubuntu for one day. |
| 02:41.19 | anthony_ | is there anyway to get menu to stop generating a menu for fluxbox? it's really annoying |
| 02:41.20 | abrotman | jasoncohen: we use debian :) |
| 02:41.24 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | http://www.iki.fi/markus.levlin/hinote this site talks about a patch that fixes it but I don't know how to retrive it and install it properly |
| 02:41.30 | sussudio | that's nice. now go back to #ubuntu. |
| 02:41.44 | jasoncohen | sussudio, i'm using debian testing on both my boxes. |
| 02:41.52 | jasoncohen | i just like that program |
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| 02:42.46 | abrotman | jasoncohen: is it like synaptic ? |
| 02:43.07 | anthony_ | anyone? how can i get rid of stupid "menu" so i can make my own menu in fluxbox, it just overrides my custom menu |
| 02:43.35 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | http://www.iki.fi/markus.levlin/hinote This is the site that explains my problem |
| 02:43.38 | Xinux | run fluxbare |
| 02:43.41 | ec | anthnony, try renaming the fluxbox menugen application. or try #fluxbox. |
| 02:43.43 | jasoncohen | abrotman, it's just for updates. it shows a list of updates with descriptions and it can be used with a desktop applet to inform users of updates |
| 02:43.45 | Xinux | anthony_: run fluxbare |
| 02:43.47 | quitte | TMD-TheIOTOWER: the patch is for 2.2 kernels. will be quite a problem applying it to 2.6 |
| 02:43.47 | sussudio | Penix: http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/lionmidget.asp |
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| 02:44.05 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I had a 2.2 kernel still have it |
| 02:44.18 | Xinux | anthony_: join #fluxbox |
| 02:44.19 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | It is the only one that works with my PCMCIA card |
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| 02:44.46 | abrotman | jasoncohen: hrm .. synaptic is a gui thing for package management .. but not for updates |
| 02:44.48 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | But how do I retrive it as a package? |
| 02:45.00 | abrotman | jasoncohen: there's a mailing list for debian security updates though |
| 02:45.05 | jasoncohen | abrotman, yeah, that's why i liked update-manager. |
| 02:45.06 | quitte | TMD-TheIOTOWER: oh. well you're stuck on woody then anyways. why dont you just use the debs on that page? |
| 02:45.21 | ultraviolet16 | hello everyone... I have a small windows network at home on a dhcp server and I want to access one of the computers through the command line... |
| 02:45.26 | ultraviolet16 | I already have samba installed |
| 02:45.44 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | becuase when I click on them it opens them instead of downloading them |
| 02:45.53 | ultraviolet16 | and the smb protocol is recognized through gnome, yet I want to access it through the terminal |
| 02:46.08 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | and the file gets curupt if I transfer it from my windows box |
| 02:46.20 | quitte | TMD-TheIOTOWER: press shift and click then. or try right clicking |
| 02:46.33 | abrotman | ultraviolet16: man smbclient |
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| 02:46.40 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | it just says save target as |
| 02:46.46 | ultraviolet16 | ok thanks abrotman |
| 02:46.47 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | or save link as I mean |
| 02:47.12 | mischko | Why doesn't sarge have an /etc/hosts file? |
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| 02:47.29 | cafuego | mischko: But it does. |
| 02:47.32 | dvs | mischko: Mine does |
| 02:47.41 | abrotman | quitte: but why ? |
| 02:47.47 | lanchow | what is the "sound server" that non-kde users have instead of arts ? |
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| 02:47.55 | abrotman | alsa ? |
| 02:47.59 | abrotman | dmix? |
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| 02:48.13 | abrotman | esound ? |
| 02:48.20 | dvs | oss ? |
| 02:48.20 | sbcl3 | does anyone here use TiLP? |
| 02:48.22 | cafuego | lanchow: esound 9esd) if they use Gnome, otherwise whatever one they choose. |
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| 02:48.37 | quitte | abrotman: try to help him please. i cant continue. had hard enough a day already |
| 02:49.01 | abrotman | help him what ? |
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| 02:49.07 | abrotman | dvs: not a sound server |
| 02:49.16 | quitte | download a file |
| 02:49.25 | abrotman | are you serious? |
| 02:49.26 | abrotman | using what ? |
| 02:49.28 | abrotman | wget ? |
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| 02:49.33 | cafuego | abrotman: Neither are alsa or dmix. |
| 02:49.34 | iLLf8d | ls |
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| 02:49.40 | quitte | i think so. if he is serious |
| 02:49.41 | sbcl3 | does anyone here use TiLP? |
| 02:49.44 | abrotman | cafuego: i thought dmix was |
| 02:49.49 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | and the kernel is uncompiled |
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| 02:49.49 | abrotman | cafuego: i realize alsa isn't |
| 02:50.10 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I dont know enough about linux to compile the kernel. |
| 02:50.13 | abrotman | quitte: i think you got trolled |
| 02:50.22 | abrotman | TMD-TheIOTOWER: are you running linux now ? |
| 02:50.23 | ec | :| |
| 02:50.35 | sparr_ | im going to have to reinstall :( |
| 02:50.36 | sparr_ | this sucks |
| 02:50.46 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Yes |
| 02:50.51 | evand | sparr_ sounds it :( |
| 02:51.12 | quitte | TMD-TheIOTOWER: so you actually think the kernel source code for 2.2.19 is 619kb? |
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| 02:51.27 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | no its jsut the patch |
| 02:51.30 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | jsut |
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| 02:51.41 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | its only a patch module |
| 02:51.42 | mischko | what package provides the /etc/hosts file? |
| 02:51.57 | abrotman | mischko: it's installed by default |
| 02:51.57 | ec | mischko: cat >/etc/hosts |
| 02:52.01 | abrotman | !find etc/hosts |
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| 02:52.18 | klaxian | I just installed a new sound card - Sound Blaster Live 24 bit - ALSA doesn't seem to see it, but it shows in lspci - any help would be appreciated |
| 02:52.23 | jasoncohen | most gtk programs seem to use my qt theme but others are boxy and ugly- amule and nmapfe for instance. what controls these apps? |
| 02:52.31 | evand | klaxian: tried alsaconf? |
| 02:52.36 | klaxian | yah it doesn't see it |
| 02:52.51 | evand | klaxian: got all the modules installed? |
| 02:52.52 | iLLf8d | klaxian: try loading the module in question |
| 02:52.57 | klaxian | it only sees my motherboard sound card |
| 02:53.00 | quitte | TMD-TheIOTOWER: no. it is a kernel deb. |
| 02:53.05 | klaxian | ok i will modprobe for it |
| 02:53.06 | trave11er | TMD-TheIOTOWER: the .deb file linked from that page is a binary kernel package |
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| 02:53.16 | evand | klaxian: or try modconf :) |
| 02:53.23 | mischko | how do I change hostname's output in debian? |
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| 02:53.29 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | so How do I get it and install it? |
| 02:53.36 | klaxian | evand: ok... |
| 02:53.39 | sanxiyn | mischko: man hostname |
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| 02:53.58 | trave11er | TMD-TheIOTOWER: are you running woody? |
| 02:53.59 | sanxiyn | "hostname is used to either set or display the current host..." |
| 02:54.01 | evand | klaxian: modconf has the nice attribute of saving across reboots :) |
| 02:54.16 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Yes I think so |
| 02:54.24 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | its woody 3.0 I think |
| 02:54.25 | klaxian | evand: i'm trying it now :) |
| 02:54.38 | abrotman | i can't even help him .. he has caps in his nick :) |
| 02:54.39 | nvz | evand: modprobe foo; echo "foo" >> /etc/modules |
| 02:54.42 | nvz | same thing |
| 02:54.54 | trave11er | TMD-TheIOTOWER: then download the file and use 'dpkg -i kernel.deb' to install it |
| 02:54.55 | evand | nvz: yes, that too :) |
| 02:55.07 | nvz | abrotman: its not like you have to type caps to help |
| 02:55.10 | klaxian | evand: it doesn't list the module that i need in modconf |
| 02:55.16 | klaxian | the driver i mean |
| 02:55.35 | klaxian | evand: i'm looking for ca0106 which is what the ALSA site says my card needs |
| 02:55.40 | trave11er | TMD-TheIOTOWER: as the origin of this kernel is largely unknown, it may or may not break |
| 02:55.42 | abrotman | nvz: i can't do it! |
| 02:55.51 | abrotman | trave11er: that's a bad idea |
| 02:56.15 | trave11er | abrotman: sure it is |
| 02:56.15 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | how Do I download the file from the console |
| 02:56.15 | jasoncohen | anyone know what controls the font sizes & theme used for nmapfe and amule? |
| 02:56.26 | evand | klaxian: do you have the driver? |
| 02:56.27 | abrotman | trave11er: NO .. it's not |
| 02:56.31 | klaxian | evand: perhaps I need a newer ALSA version? what is bundled with kernel 2.6.10? |
| 02:56.33 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | the gui wont let me downlaod it as a package |
| 02:56.43 | sanxiyn | jasoncohen: GTK 1.2. |
| 02:56.48 | evand | klaxian: that should be new enough.... not sure |
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| 02:56.52 | sanxiyn | (via wxWidgets, that is.) |
| 02:56.54 | trave11er | abrotman: eh? i agree that it's a bad idea |
| 02:56.56 | klaxian | evand: i couldn't find the driver listed in modconf - perhaps i don't have it but ALSA says it has it |
| 02:57.09 | klaxian | evand: should it be listed in modconf? |
| 02:57.12 | evand | klaxian: try modprobe then? |
| 02:57.16 | klaxian | ok |
| 02:57.18 | evand | klaxian: should be, if you have it |
| 02:57.31 | klaxian | evand: FATAL: Module ca0106 not found. |
| 02:57.33 | trave11er | abrotman: or which one did you refer to? |
| 02:57.35 | trave11er | :-) |
| 02:57.41 | abrotman | dpkg -i stuff |
| 02:57.46 | ec | TMD-TheIOTOWER: take a look at http://www.debian.org/doc/ :) |
| 02:57.54 | trave11er | abrotman: why? |
| 02:57.55 | dvs | doh! |
| 02:57.57 | evand | klaxian: well then, that answers that question :) |
| 02:57.58 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok thanks |
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| 02:58.11 | FieldySnuts | into his anus?? wtf |
| 02:58.15 | jasoncohen | sanxiyn, what do i use to control the font/themes for gtk 1.2? |
| 02:58.15 | FieldySnuts | @spank dpkg |
| 02:58.17 | ec | TMD-TheIOTOWER: they have a great how-to section :) |
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| 02:58.25 | abrotman | trave11er: which debian and which kernel ? |
| 02:58.34 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | But its hard to find your way around it |
| 02:58.38 | wobbler | klaxian have you tried the snd-emu10k1 driver to see if it works |
| 02:58.44 | ec | TMD-TheIOTOWER: ? |
| 02:58.54 | ec | TMD-TheIOTOWER: click how-to and goto the section you need. |
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| 02:58.58 | klaxian | wobbler: no,but the ALSA page says I need ca0106 |
| 02:58.58 | ec | :| |
| 02:59.00 | trave11er | abrotman: TMD-TheIOTOWER does not know how to build a patched kernel for his keyboard problem |
| 02:59.04 | klaxian | i will try emu10k1 |
| 02:59.05 | evand | klaxian: I have the module (running debian 2.6.11 kernel) |
| 02:59.07 | trave11er | abrotman: but he found a binary kernel |
| 02:59.16 | trave11er | which supposedly works |
| 02:59.19 | abrotman | his mouse problem |
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| 02:59.25 | abrotman | good thing you've been paying attention |
| 02:59.27 | wobbler | make sure you use snd-emu10k1 |
| 02:59.29 | astronut | hey abrotman, you know much about packaging? |
| 02:59.31 | klaxian | hmm maybe it's in the newer ALSA bundled with 2.6.11 |
| 02:59.51 | abrotman | astronut: a wee bit .. why ? |
| 02:59.54 | trave11er | abrotman: i actually googled and the patch in question patches the keyboard driver |
| 02:59.56 | evand | klaxian: could be. that would be a relatively straightforward fix. |
| 03:00.00 | abrotman | trave11er: erm .. ok |
| 03:00.01 | astronut | had a question, debian-mentors is small |
| 03:00.05 | trave11er | if that's the same problem we are talking about here |
| 03:00.08 | klaxian | wobbler: snd-emu10k1 doesn't seem to work |
| 03:00.09 | astronut | i decided to make the leap and try to package something |
| 03:00.15 | klaxian | let me try upgrading to 2.6.11 |
| 03:00.32 | abrotman | astronut: you read the nm docs ? |
| 03:00.36 | abrotman | and mg docs |
| 03:00.43 | wobbler | klaxian sorry then no clue |
| 03:00.52 | astronut | abrotman: ya |
| 03:00.54 | trave11er | abrotman: is there something generally wrong with installing kernels with dpkg -i? |
| 03:00.54 | FieldySnuts | @clue wobbler |
| 03:00.57 | astronut | i already built one package |
| 03:01.00 | astronut | but it's already in there |
| 03:01.00 | abrotman | trave11er: can be |
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| 03:01.01 | astronut | I was packaging "dav" to fulfill RFP 161106, and after building the package, lintian complained that the manpage wasn't compressed enough... I recompressed it using gzip -9, now the build fails when it makes the diff because a binary file changed...what is the correct procdedure? |
| 03:01.01 | astronut | <astronut> Do I delete the file and move it into debian/ with the new compression? Do I redo it in the .orig.tar.gz? Something else? I can't leave it according to lintian... |
| 03:01.03 | astronut | oops |
| 03:01.07 | trave11er | abrotman: like? |
| 03:01.09 | astronut | forgot to delte the \n and my nick |
| 03:01.17 | klaxian | wobbler: i'm upgrading to 2.6.11 now to see if that helps |
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| 03:01.38 | abrotman | trave11er: kernel-image-2.6 on woody .. if you force it .. your system won't boot anymore |
| 03:01.40 | klaxian | i could also install alsa-source and build a module with module-assistant |
| 03:01.42 | P8ntKid | Whats the best irc client that i can have transparent? |
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| 03:01.56 | abrotman | transparent ? |
| 03:01.59 | FieldySnuts | only one i know of is xchat 2 |
| 03:01.59 | P8ntKid | yes |
| 03:02.08 | klaxian | brb |
| 03:02.16 | P8ntKid | I have xchat 2... How do i make it transparent? |
| 03:02.23 | FieldySnuts | settings/prefs.. you'll find it |
| 03:02.33 | trave11er | abrotman: yeah |
| 03:02.34 | astronut | it's on the first page |
| 03:02.44 | Vortech | someone help me i am new at linux |
| 03:02.46 | Vortech | and I need help |
| 03:02.50 | ec | with? |
| 03:02.51 | FieldySnuts | !vague |
| 03:02.52 | dpkg | Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 03:02.52 | astronut | you can also run irssi in a transperent xterm |
| 03:03.06 | P8ntKid | I set it to be transparent, but it doesnt chagne anything |
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| 03:03.09 | Vortech | i need |
| 03:03.10 | Vortech | help |
| 03:03.12 | Vortech | w/ knoppix |
| 03:03.16 | ec | :| |
| 03:03.19 | evand | !ask |
| 03:03.19 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic (sicco)! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 03:03.20 | FieldySnuts | ask #knoppix then please, we don't deal with knoppix |
| 03:03.22 | mhall | How do I figure out the quantity of space reserved for root on an XFS and change this value? |
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| 03:03.34 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: some people want to .. |
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| 03:03.36 | mhall | I am in an urgent situation and need to make a little more room available. |
| 03:03.41 | ec | knoppix and unbuntu is making me depressed. |
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| 03:03.58 | FieldySnuts | fine, tell their respective channels then (not here) |
| 03:04.01 | toresbe | ec: why is that? |
| 03:04.25 | Rez | mhall: no tunexfs? |
| 03:04.25 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: mhallsmite test |
| 03:04.25 | dpkg | Fuck test. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 03:04.25 | astronut | abrotman: did you see my question? |
| 03:04.25 | FieldySnuts | heh that's an old one |
| 03:04.27 | abrotman | mhall: deborphan |
| 03:04.35 | mhall | Rez: I did not know of that. |
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| 03:04.35 | abrotman | astronut: i did . and it's beyond me .. sorry |
| 03:04.48 | astronut | ok, cool |
| 03:04.56 | mhall | Rez: no, it does not exist |
| 03:04.57 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: penixsmite test |
| 03:05.00 | Rez | mhall: I dunno if it exists or not, but to change that parm on ext2.... |
| 03:05.01 | FieldySnuts | :x |
| 03:05.06 | mhall | abrotman: that's not going to give me enough |
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| 03:05.43 | trave11er | astronut: is upstream shipping binary manpages in the orig.tar.gz? |
| 03:05.54 | astronut | yes |
| 03:05.59 | trave11er | ugh |
| 03:06.00 | astronut | and that's what causes the error |
| 03:06.06 | trave11er | that's pretty dumb |
| 03:06.14 | astronut | because upstream didn't do the gzip high enough |
| 03:06.24 | trave11er | astronut: ask them not to do that? :-) |
| 03:06.32 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | How do I download in binary mode from the gui |
| 03:06.49 | FieldySnuts | what gui? what program? |
| 03:06.57 | abrotman | mhall: rm ? |
| 03:07.02 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER usually, from a web browser, you would rt-click, select 'save link as' and choose a path |
| 03:07.07 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Linux woody gnome Mozilla |
| 03:07.08 | abrotman | trave11er: that's dumb ? |
| 03:07.16 | quitte | i've got a problem with some debs i made. the xlibs that i compiled using debian source from freeedesktop.org don't ad /usr/X11R6/lib to ld.so.conf - and the tslib package i made doesn't install ts.conf in /etc/ for some reason. |
| 03:07.28 | astronut | so do i leave the error? |
| 03:07.30 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | It only says text file in the choces |
| 03:07.33 | trave11er | abrotman: yes. since the distribution tarball is compressed anyway |
| 03:07.36 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | choices |
| 03:07.42 | astronut | or do i move the manpage into debian or what? |
| 03:07.43 | trave11er | so they are putting .gz in a .tar.gz |
| 03:07.48 | astronut | yes |
| 03:07.50 | FieldySnuts | smart. |
| 03:07.53 | astronut | it's a very small package |
| 03:07.58 | astronut | i wanted something easy |
| 03:08.02 | astronut | i saw it on the RFP page |
| 03:08.08 | astronut | it looked like my skill level |
| 03:08.20 | evand | astronut: can you get things from upstream cvs instead? |
| 03:08.28 | astronut | evand: maybe, it's SF |
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| 03:08.35 | trave11er | astronut: why don't you uncompress it during build, install it uncompressed and then let dh_compress DTRT? |
| 03:08.41 | evand | astronut: if they're doing it right, there should be a release tag, right? |
| 03:08.57 | astronut | evand: hmm? |
| 03:08.59 | astronut | not sure |
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| 03:09.09 | astronut | evand: my 2nd package... first was just practice |
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| 03:09.20 | astronut | trave11er: uhmmm...how do i do that? |
| 03:09.26 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | The package im trying to download is in binary is a binary deb file |
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| 03:09.45 | astronut | pre/post build scripts? |
| 03:09.49 | astronut | or makefile magic or? |
| 03:09.51 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Im trying to download it with Mozilla |
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| 03:10.03 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | but the path only gives me the text option |
| 03:10.05 | abrotman | TMD-TheIOTOWER: right click .. Save As |
| 03:10.06 | astronut | TMD-TheIOTOWER: right click, save as, as root dpkg -i file |
| 03:10.07 | gongoputch | any GRUB wizards around? |
| 03:10.20 | abrotman | if that doesn't work .. use wget |
| 03:10.28 | trave11er | astronut: in the rules file |
| 03:10.33 | astronut | trave11er: mind PM? |
| 03:10.41 | trave11er | astronut: shoot |
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| 03:12.08 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | It only lets me save the link if I click on the lik in windows it asks me where I want to save the file in linux it jsuts opens the file in the browser in Binary |
| 03:12.23 | FieldySnuts | doesn't sound like you are right clicking. |
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| 03:12.55 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | if I right click on the link it asks me where ot save the link not the file itself |
| 03:13.18 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: rt-click -> save link as will do what you want |
| 03:13.22 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: trust me on this one |
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| 03:13.37 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | save link as A text file in root |
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| 03:13.56 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: I promise it will do the right thing |
| 03:14.09 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: have you actually tried selecting a path and saving it? |
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| 03:15.16 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yes I cant save it in root it says the file is cannot be written in root |
| 03:15.27 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: ahh, ok |
| 03:15.33 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: that is a permission thing |
| 03:15.46 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: you as the user can't splatter things all across the file system |
| 03:15.50 | abrotman | it doesn't matter where you save it .. just remember where |
| 03:15.54 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: save it in your home directory |
| 03:15.55 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | it says Directory is not writable |
| 03:15.57 | abrotman | !d-i TMD-TheIOTOWER |
| 03:15.57 | dpkg | TMD-TheIOTOWER, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 03:16.13 | evand | abrotman: I don't think that's really the issue... |
| 03:16.39 | abrotman | evand: it's worth a shot . he's dicking around with woody |
| 03:16.51 | evand | abrotman: oh. hrm. |
| 03:16.53 | cinix | dicking, *sigh* |
| 03:17.06 | abrotman | boobing ? |
| 03:17.17 | cinix | I would love to do either of those |
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| 03:17.48 | sanxiyn | Will #debian have a release party |
| 03:17.57 | abrotman | sanxiyn: they usually coordinate them |
| 03:18.01 | abrotman | at least they did with woody |
| 03:18.11 | FieldySnuts | been so long, they probably forgot how |
| 03:18.20 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: If you're using an old version of debian (ie woody) you should probably upgrade anyway, like abrotman was suggesting |
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| 03:18.28 | sanxiyn | well release is real soon now (<24 hours, I think) |
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| 03:19.00 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ona 120 mhz P I with 48 MB ram |
| 03:19.02 | abrotman | not should .. just make him |
| 03:19.05 | abrotman | sanxiyn: no .. noteven close |
| 03:19.14 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: ouch.... |
| 03:19.16 | sanxiyn | abrotman: Hm, what happened? |
| 03:19.16 | abrotman | sanxiyn: bugs.debian.org/release-critical |
| 03:19.18 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | and A gig of hard drive space |
| 03:19.23 | abrotman | sanxiyn: RC bugs went up :) |
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| 03:19.45 | quitte | TMD-TheIOTOWER: 133mhz 32Mb here and running sid and experimental |
| 03:20.09 | abrotman | i've got a 486 DX2/66 with 36MB running sarge |
| 03:20.13 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: yeah, I'd be tempted to go with new releases, but choose lightweight programs... newer stuff can be faster :) |
| 03:20.34 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | only have a floppy dive |
| 03:20.37 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | drive |
| 03:20.39 | sanxiyn | abrotman: Seen http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/06/msg00113.html ? |
| 03:20.39 | abrotman | so what ? |
| 03:20.41 | FieldySnuts | !rube goldberg install |
| 03:20.41 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 03:20.42 | abrotman | !sarge bf |
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| 03:20.46 | abrotman | !sarge floppies |
| 03:20.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, sarge floppies is http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitue your arch for i386 |
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| 03:21.17 | evand | FieldySnuts: heh :) |
| 03:21.53 | PhorceP | I'm not able to apt-get install libuim0 on sarge. I believe it is because of this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=304888 however the fix that the dev suggests doesn't work. Any suggestions? |
| 03:22.08 | evand | so, how many little words of wisdom does dpkg have, anyway? |
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| 03:22.32 | FieldySnuts | ass loads, someone make it spit out stats |
| 03:22.41 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | are you saying that there are other distros onfloppy that will fit my needs? |
| 03:22.50 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 03:22.58 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: they're saying that a more modern version of debian might be better |
| 03:23.14 | abrotman | fucking dpkg |
| 03:23.46 | TwistedLappy | Uhhh... I accidentally lost my XFCE Panel... anyone know how to get it back? |
| 03:23.57 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | but how can I get a more modern version if all I have is a floppy drive and A PCMCIA card that ws only supported in 2.2 |
| 03:24.27 | sanxiyn | PhorceP: Hm, file conflict. it seems suggested workaround should work? |
| 03:24.27 | abrotman | !d-i TMD-TheIOTOWER |
| 03:24.27 | abrotman | ffs |
| 03:24.27 | dpkg | TMD-TheIOTOWER, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 03:24.27 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: ok, that would be hard |
| 03:24.28 | TwistedLappy | Anyone? |
| 03:24.28 | abrotman | !sarge floppies |
| 03:24.28 | dpkg | sarge floppies is probably http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitue your arch for i386 |
| 03:24.40 | abrotman | it's a fuckign laptop ? |
| 03:24.46 | TwistedLappy | Bringing XFCE Panel back? |
| 03:24.47 | sanxiyn | TwistedLappy: You have terminal? |
| 03:24.58 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yes |
| 03:25.00 | TwistedLappy | sanxiyn: yes |
| 03:25.02 | sanxiyn | TwistedLappy: Just launch xfce4-panel. |
| 03:25.10 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yes |
| 03:25.30 | TwistedLappy | sanxiyn: didnt do anything |
| 03:25.34 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: laptops are rarely fun... ok, if you've got something on it, I'd consider just continuing with that |
| 03:25.36 | sanxiyn | Strange... |
| 03:25.46 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: have you got the file saved yet? |
| 03:25.46 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | the binary image is now a .txt file instead of a .deb file |
| 03:25.47 | TwistedLappy | sanxiyn: worked! ;) Sudo |
| 03:25.54 | abrotman | sanxiyn: bugs still at 16 currently |
| 03:25.55 | sanxiyn | TwistedLappy: That's even more strange. :( |
| 03:26.01 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yes |
| 03:26.06 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | as a txt file |
| 03:26.08 | PhorceP | sanxiyn: Well the workaround doesn't specify the correct directory, and even if it did I don't have uim-applet-gnome* |
| 03:26.13 | TwistedLappy | sanxiyn: agreed. |
| 03:26.16 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWERwhat do you mean by "as a text file" |
| 03:26.35 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | it asved it as a txt fiel instead of an image file |
| 03:26.44 | abrotman | !es |
| 03:26.44 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:26.48 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | the extentions is deb.txt |
| 03:27.10 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER so rename it? |
| 03:27.20 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | can I take that off like in windows just change the name |
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| 03:27.25 | swim | anyone happen to know if there is a sid iso with a kernel that supports ata/raid? |
| 03:27.33 | sanxiyn | abrotman: RM thinks snort/openldap/samba/nagios/sendmail (missing a build or two in architectures) can be ignored and be synced in point release. |
| 03:27.40 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: just change the name |
| 03:27.41 | swim | unofficial somewhere perhaps? |
| 03:27.42 | sanxiyn | (From debian-release post) |
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| 03:28.14 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: extensions under linux have no "special" meaning anyway |
| 03:28.15 | abrotman | sanxiyn: of course he does .. runs around closing bugs like a mad man .. just to get the release out :) |
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| 03:29.08 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | so how do I change it like this <filename> new <name> create |
| 03:29.17 | abrotman | damn it .. just install sarge |
| 03:29.26 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | LOL |
| 03:29.31 | gandy909 | when you do an "apt-get -t stable upgrade" will it normally pull packages from unstable and/or testing? |
| 03:29.35 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | is it that bad |
| 03:29.45 | evand | gandy909: it shouldn't |
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| 03:30.09 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: I'm confused. you just need to rename the file, right? |
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| 03:30.27 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yes |
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| 03:30.38 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: so what are you using to do that? |
| 03:30.48 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: a gui thing, a console, etc? |
| 03:31.00 | trave11er | gandy909: you can control this quite precisely using apt pinning |
| 03:31.01 | PhorceP | sanxiyn: When I try to apt-get install uim-applet-gnome it says it requires nine other packages that "won't be installed" |
| 03:31.05 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | console |
| 03:31.17 | sanxiyn | PhorceP: Hm. Mirror lag? |
| 03:31.18 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | gui wont run in root for some reason |
| 03:31.19 | abrotman | just freaking install sarge/upgrade |
| 03:31.24 | abrotman | whatever .. |
| 03:31.31 | PhorceP | sanxiyn: It's been like this for several week snow |
| 03:31.33 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | abrotman you werent born a linux wiz were you |
| 03:31.34 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: you shouldn't run things as root |
| 03:31.34 | PhorceP | err, weeks now |
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| 03:31.38 | sanxiyn | PhorceP: Oh, that's bad. |
| 03:31.46 | trave11er | gandy909: man apt_preferences |
| 03:31.50 | FieldySnuts | @troll TMD-TheIOTOWER |
| 03:31.51 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: the reason is a good one |
| 03:31.55 | Solet-deb | whats the command to show a packages description? |
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| 03:32.23 | sanxiyn | Solet-deb: apt-cache show <package name> |
| 03:32.33 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | you had to learn and it probably took you some time and your proud of the fact that you learned all you have |
| 03:32.42 | Solet-deb | sanxiyn: thanks |
| 03:32.46 | FieldySnuts | great. and your point is? |
| 03:32.49 | abrotman | TMD-TheIOTOWER: i was .. chemical imbalance :) |
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| 03:32.57 | gandy909 | i have Apt::Default-Release stable; in a file in apt.conf.d and it still wants to pull a few packages from unstable when I do an upgrade |
| 03:33.09 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | all im asking is for a little patience from A guy that feels like he is running out of time |
| 03:33.17 | FieldySnuts | i'm not drunk; i'm just not sober |
| 03:33.23 | evand | gandy909: that's prob because you have some unstable packages installed already |
| 03:33.32 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: you lush :) |
| 03:33.34 | Solet-deb | TMD-TheIOTOWER: no worries, i'm still pretty new... i still suck running linux... but i'm getting better you will too.... they just dont remember what its like not knowing... (i have the same problem trining people at work) |
| 03:33.40 | trave11er | gandy909: read man apt_preferences |
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| 03:33.54 | trave11er | it's a longish read, but it's worth it |
| 03:33.57 | dodgyville | Hi, I replaced my SCSI cdrom with an IDE one, and debian (sid) automagically has it running fine, but now the automount feature seems a bit dodgy. It mounts it as media/hdc instead of /cdrom, this stuffs up apt. |
| 03:34.05 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: isn't phated at class ? |
| 03:34.10 | abrotman | oh . it's saturday there |
| 03:34.12 | FieldySnuts | :) |
| 03:34.17 | abrotman | no class on saturday right ? |
| 03:34.32 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a badger war |
| 03:34.32 | dpkg | mushrooms suck compared to FieldySnuts |
| 03:34.35 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 03:34.37 | skaught | dodgyville: Fix your sources.list |
| 03:34.37 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I have alot of patience I spent 8 years in the joint for a family member and so I always feel like time is never on my side been free for four years |
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| 03:34.55 | skaught | dodgyville: Things in SID are supposed to change, that's the idea. |
| 03:34.56 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | and still feel that way in 2 months Ill have a degree in Programming and networking |
| 03:35.08 | abrotman | TMD-TheIOTOWER: honestly . if i were you . i'd at least attempt the upgrade .. |
| 03:35.10 | gandy909 | evand, ahhh, didn't think so but I guess it could be... whats the command to show pkgs installed? |
| 03:35.32 | evand | gandy909: dpkg -l, but it gives a lot of output.... |
| 03:35.46 | Solet-deb | abrotman: is he running woody? |
| 03:35.57 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:36.00 | evand | Solet-deb: yes |
| 03:36.13 | evand | Solet-deb: something about hardware only supported on a 2.2 kernel |
| 03:36.14 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I jsut felt like unix and linux started the computer world so why not use it |
| 03:36.28 | skaught | dodgyville: If you're statically mounting your CDROM drive, you could alternatively edit your /etc/fstab |
| 03:36.40 | abrotman | Solet-deb: P120 w/48MB |
| 03:36.46 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: you might find it easier on a more modern computer |
| 03:36.52 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Id upgradde but right now I have very litle resources and I know that Linux can exploit a sytem to it fullest potential |
| 03:36.56 | poonj | hey guys |
| 03:37.03 | poonj | I'm using a SBLive card with 4 channel output |
| 03:37.12 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: I thought you had another windows box? |
| 03:37.18 | poonj | hoever, I can only get output for 2 ch....is there something I'm doing wrong? |
| 03:37.30 | Solet-deb | what hardware is only supported on 2.2.... i dont see why a new kernel would drop support |
| 03:37.44 | poonj | I have the volume control and made sure all channels were not muted |
| 03:37.44 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I have mandrake running on my server ubuntu on the computer in my office and now Im trying to bring back this old laptop becuase I was told it would never happen |
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| 03:37.52 | evand | Solet-deb: pcmcia is a giant mess |
| 03:38.03 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a bus war |
| 03:38.08 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a disk war |
| 03:38.08 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I have twelve computers in my House 8 up and running |
| 03:38.09 | FieldySnuts | bleh |
| 03:38.22 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: so... learn a bit more linux on one of them? |
| 03:38.25 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | 2 for the kids one in each bedroom and 2 in the office |
| 03:38.33 | FieldySnuts | fine. one level higher. |
| 03:38.36 | Solet-deb | eek... i dont know if i can be any help with laptops :( i've never done a lappy install |
| 03:38.36 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a fs war |
| 03:38.37 | dpkg | ReiserFS is better than NTFS!! |
| 03:38.40 | abrotman | !start a branch war |
| 03:38.40 | dpkg | The Navy Blows |
| 03:38.40 | FieldySnuts | haha. |
| 03:38.46 | FieldySnuts | HEY@!! i wasi n the navy! |
| 03:38.53 | Solet-deb | onya dpkg |
| 03:39.07 | evand | Solet-deb: they're messy... I installed deb on a laptop with just a usb floppy, and it wasn't fun |
| 03:39.08 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | well the laptop is a chalange |
| 03:39.26 | Solet-deb | rofl |
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| 03:39.37 | FieldySnuts | splat. |
| 03:39.40 | evand | TMD-TheIOTOWER: but if you're having issues *downloading and renaming a file* you should spend a bit more time familiarizing yourself with the basics first |
| 03:40.00 | Xinux | laugh. |
| 03:40.09 | petemc | cry |
| 03:40.23 | Solet-deb | deficate |
| 03:40.36 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | This is true and your right |
| 03:40.37 | petemc | discombobulate |
| 03:40.37 | FieldySnuts | feces |
| 03:40.37 | evand | defenestrate |
| 03:40.52 | abrotman | petemc: nutate! |
| 03:40.57 | abrotman | !nutate |
| 03:41.01 | FieldySnuts | ? |
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| 03:41.06 | Solet-deb | defenestrate? wtf does that mean? |
| 03:41.12 | abrotman | !dict defenestrate |
| 03:41.14 | dpkg | could not find definition for defenestrate |
| 03:41.16 | FieldySnuts | masticate? |
| 03:41.19 | TwistedLappy | I for some reason or another I lost the xfce4 panel.. now I have to run it manually and under root 1) Anyone know why? 2) Can I delete all the xfce settings and use as if a fresh install? |
| 03:41.24 | evand | !dict defenstrate |
| 03:41.26 | dpkg | could not find definition for defenstrate |
| 03:41.28 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: heh |
| 03:41.30 | evand | hrmm... |
| 03:41.32 | evand | one sec |
| 03:41.32 | FieldySnuts | !dict masticate |
| 03:41.34 | dpkg | could not find definition for masticate |
| 03:41.37 | FieldySnuts | lol. |
| 03:41.39 | abrotman | !dict barf |
| 03:41.42 | dpkg | Dictionary 'barf' (2 of 7): In Commonwealth Hackish, "barf" is generally replaced by "puke" or "vom". barf is sometimes also used as a metasyntactic variable, like foo or bar. ;; 2. To say "Barf!" or emit some similar expression of disgust. "I showed him my latest hack and he barfed" means only that he complained about it, not that he literally vomited.. |
| 03:41.43 | abrotman | is his dict broken |
| 03:41.44 | abrotman | ? |
| 03:41.46 | abrotman | oh .. guess not |
| 03:41.49 | FieldySnuts | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=masticate |
| 03:41.54 | petemc | its limited |
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| 03:41.54 | skaught | TwistedLappy: Of course, XFCE will likely store it's settings in a folder called .xfce or something in your ~ |
| 03:42.00 | Solet-deb | masticate = chew bfd |
| 03:42.02 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I have a redhat 2.0 Toolkit still in the Wrapper still sealed with debian 1.0 |
| 03:42.06 | evand | nope... had it right the first time... means to throw out a window |
| 03:42.12 | FieldySnuts | n/m not the definition i'm thinking of |
| 03:42.17 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | never opened but its all CD's |
| 03:42.21 | Solet-deb | there is no such thing as debian 1.0 |
| 03:42.32 | Solet-deb | TMD-TheIOTOWER: i'll buy that from you if its still sealed |
| 03:42.36 | abrotman | !releases |
| 03:42.37 | Solet-deb | cause debian 1.0 was a fuckup |
| 03:42.37 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-08-28), Potato(2.2; 2001-04-17[?]), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19). The next release will be Sarge. You can call Sarge+1 "Etch". See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
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| 03:43.03 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | well let me go look at the pacjkage hold on |
| 03:43.08 | Solet-deb | its accually the 0.9something beta that some stupid company released as debian 1.0 |
| 03:43.12 | Solet-deb | thats why buzz is 1.1 |
| 03:43.29 | abrotman | !dstats potato |
| 03:43.36 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on potato... 4305 packages, 541 maintainers, 5097 MB installed size, 1799 MB compressed size. |
| 03:43.37 | abrotman | !dstats sarge |
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| 03:43.50 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on sarge... 15680 packages, 1471 maintainers, 28321 MB installed size, 8915 MB compressed size. |
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| 03:44.05 | abrotman | in 4 years |
| 03:44.16 | evand | impressive |
| 03:44.20 | abrotman | !dstats bo |
| 03:44.21 | gandy909 | evand I remembered that apt-show-versions will do it. I forgot that installing makejail wanted some stuff from testing. the items that came from testing are the ones that apt-get upgrade wants to pull in from unstable, which still sounds wierd to me |
| 03:44.25 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on bo... 1126 packages, 183 maintainers, 924 MB installed size, 399 MB compressed size. |
| 03:44.27 | abrotman | heh |
| 03:44.31 | FieldySnuts | wow |
| 03:44.34 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | who can recieve pics I git A oic from Ebay when I was trying to sell it |
| 03:44.34 | Solet-deb | some one do the math and figure out 4 years from now given those numbers :) |
| 03:44.52 | evand | gandy909: probably an apt-preferences weirdness and/or sources.list |
| 03:45.02 | FieldySnuts | !dstats buzz |
| 03:45.04 | abrotman | Solet-deb: for which stat ? |
| 03:45.05 | evand | gandy909: I think reading man apt-preferences will be worth your time |
| 03:45.13 | gandy909 | more /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:45.15 | FieldySnuts | <dpkg> Debian(iS): internal error. |
| 03:45.16 | FieldySnuts | ;/ |
| 03:45.17 | gandy909 | crap |
| 03:45.19 | Solet-deb | potato to sarge... |
| 03:45.21 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | This box says debian 1.0 |
| 03:45.27 | abrotman | Solet-deb: for all of them ? |
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| 03:45.42 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | it was packaged by info magic |
| 03:45.43 | Solet-deb | package number and install size |
| 03:45.46 | evand | Solet-deb: linear or exponential? |
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| 03:46.17 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Slackware 3.0 Redhat 2.1 |
| 03:46.21 | abrotman | 50k packages and 120000MB installed |
| 03:46.24 | abrotman | Solet-deb: ^ |
| 03:46.25 | Solet-deb | if you're gonna do the math i guess you can choose :P i was just curious and dont have a calc handy |
| 03:46.32 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Vi refernce Card |
| 03:46.57 | Solet-deb | TMD-TheIOTOWER: do you have a pic of the deb 1.0 box? |
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| 03:47.23 | abrotman | Solet-deb: dpkg has one |
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| 03:47.29 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Yeah Im looking for it now |
| 03:47.31 | abrotman | !15000/4000 |
| 03:47.32 | dpkg | 3.75 |
| 03:47.32 | TwistedLappy | skaut I killed that folder and still boots up normal as if nothing was deleted? Any ideas? Is there a higher level folder that will for sure kill all the settings? |
| 03:47.33 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | on esec |
| 03:47.42 | bryanw | anyone have any NAS solutions they would reccommend? |
| 03:47.46 | TwistedLappy | skaught: ^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 03:47.52 | abrotman | bryanw: one that doesn't die |
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| 03:48.03 | bryanw | yeah LOL |
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| 03:48.14 | Solet-deb | abrotman: whats the trigger for the link to the deb1.0 pic? |
| 03:48.17 | skaught | TwistedLappy: perhaps .xfce-4 or something. Do an 'ls -a' in your home directory |
| 03:48.18 | mhall | How do I get dvdrecord working? |
| 03:48.21 | useruser | !NAS |
| 03:48.22 | dpkg | from memory, nas is a network audio system, a lot like esound with special features, like a module wich can hijack your /dev/dsp on clients. (libaudiooss/http://www.mo.himolde.no/~knan/linux.html). Network Attached Storage |
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| 03:48.57 | abrotman | Solet-deb: huh? |
| 03:49.17 | useruser | TwistedLappy: what happens when you run xfce4-panel as non-root? |
| 03:49.21 | Solet-deb | oh nvm you were talking about the calculator not the pic |
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| 03:49.28 | mhall | !dvdrecord |
| 03:49.28 | dpkg | dvdrecord is probably For real support, use growisofs from dvd+rw-tools,cdrecord(-ProDVD) |
| 03:51.00 | dodgyville | I can't readd my CDs in Synaptic because it's waiting for a cdrom to be placed in the drive (i think at /cdrom not /mount/hdc) |
| 03:51.16 | skaught | dodgyville: Did you read any of the replies I gave you above?? |
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| 03:51.23 | abrotman | heh |
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| 03:51.35 | useruser | dodgyville: ln |
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| 03:52.13 | skaught | dodgyville: You shouldn't be running Sid. Edit either your /etc/apt/sources.list file, or /etc/fstab |
| 03:53.26 | TwistedLappy | Uhhh... well good news/bad news... good: none bad: I deleted .gnome .gnome2 .xfce4.... and now when I try and login it sais that my home directory is missing do I want to login with / (root) directory as home? |
| 03:53.56 | TwistedLappy | do I need to create empty folders there? |
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| 03:54.25 | useruser | TwistedLappy: what have you done to your poor computer? |
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| 03:54.57 | TwistedLappy | useruser: kicked its ass I suppose ;( |
| 03:55.18 | evand | and forgot to save the pieces ;) |
| 03:55.33 | TwistedLappy | apt-get remove --purge xfce4? |
| 03:55.36 | TwistedLappy | and reinstall? |
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| 03:55.42 | abrotman | why ? |
| 03:55.47 | evand | that sounds like it would work, but.... |
| 03:57.44 | mhall | hello |
| 03:57.49 | mhall | am i here? |
| 03:58.26 | useruser | mhall: no |
| 03:58.30 | abrotman | !test |
| 03:58.30 | dpkg | Sorry, abrotman, I didn't get your test. |
| 03:59.04 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: i doubt its the package. you sure you didnt do anything? |
| 03:59.20 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: ~/.config/xfce4 |
| 03:59.56 | Solet-deb | to create a mount point for a fs, all i need is an empty directory right? or do i need to do something to it to make it a mount point |
| 04:00.10 | skaught | Solet-deb: and dir will do |
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| 04:00.15 | skaught | s/any/and |
| 04:00.17 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: too late... already fuckered everything ;) trying to fix now ;) |
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| 04:00.47 | deadcat | haha |
| 04:00.57 | gongoputch | looking for a bit of advise from a grub wizard ... |
| 04:01.04 | TwistedLappy | I keep getting dependency errors with apt-get how do I just get it to install? |
| 04:01.22 | TwistedLappy | with the dependencies? |
| 04:01.23 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: damn. this guy is asking $100 to sell me an old cobalt qube3 machine.. i want $75, and i still have to think about. |
| 04:01.37 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: apt-get install -f, |
| 04:01.39 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: wtf is that? |
| 04:01.40 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Ok got the Picture |
| 04:02.08 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: http://www.craigslist.org/eby/sys/76486285.html |
| 04:02.28 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: are you getting dependencies on apt-get install xfce4? |
| 04:02.46 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: yeah... even with -f |
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| 04:03.38 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Ok I have the Picture oF the Package that says Debian 1.0 |
| 04:03.39 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: care to take a look? I will love you forever and ever |
| 04:03.52 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: is this from os-works.com? |
| 04:04.07 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: let me in |
| 04:04.16 | TwistedLappy | os-works is in the sources but I think I just fuckered something up |
| 04:04.22 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: kk gimme a sec |
| 04:04.22 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: oh ya. the linux picnix is going to be on a sunday this year. |
| 04:04.42 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: after the expo |
| 04:04.43 | TwistedLappy | ? |
| 04:04.48 | deadcat | ya |
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| 04:05.23 | pekkele | is there any chance to play counter strike in debian -.- ?? |
| 04:05.32 | deadcat | pekkele: yes. wine |
| 04:05.38 | abrotman | cedega/wine/transgaming |
| 04:05.41 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | <Solet-deb> I found the Pic |
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| 04:05.56 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: ssh ready? |
| 04:05.56 | Solet-deb | TMD-TheIOTOWER: do you have a link to it? |
| 04:06.04 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: 68.126.232.171 |
| 04:06.06 | Hyde | how do you download something through the terminal? |
| 04:06.09 | pekkele | debhelper: how is somewhere manual how to make dat possible |
| 04:06.20 | deadcat | Hyde: wgeyt |
| 04:06.21 | deadcat | wget |
| 04:06.32 | Hyde | wget, lol i've been thinking just get, thanks |
| 04:06.37 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: i am in |
| 04:06.38 | abrotman | pekkele: winehq.com |
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| 04:06.45 | deadcat | Hyde: lazy bastard (= |
| 04:06.56 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | hMMM WELL OK LET ME SEE GIVE ME A SEC |
| 04:07.23 | TwistedLappy | TMD-TheIOTOWER: you like capslock? |
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| 04:07.30 | sanxiyn | Use wget -U <something> for stupid sites forbiding wget. |
| 04:07.47 | Solet-deb | TMD-TheIOTOWER: your cap lock is on :P |
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| 04:08.01 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: watching ypu |
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| 04:08.31 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | nO |
| 04:08.44 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Sorry |
| 04:08.45 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: i think you will have to wait on this one. since one package is not ready. |
| 04:08.58 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: hrm, neat trick ;-) |
| 04:09.02 | sanxiyn | pekkele: Transgaming DB for counter strike: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3542 |
| 04:09.13 | sanxiyn | pekkele: You can lookup other games too. |
| 04:09.30 | Solet-deb | when apt downloads a source where does it put it? |
| 04:09.31 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: I dont mind installing testing... |
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| 04:09.46 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: i know. but its not working. and the desktop is only testing. |
| 04:10.27 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: try apt-get remove xfce4 |
| 04:10.34 | deadcat | i did |
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| 04:10.41 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: it only removes like 20k worth of files wtf.. |
| 04:10.41 | pekkele | debhelper: wine is somekind windows emulator for linux ?? |
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| 04:10.49 | abrotman | !wine |
| 04:10.49 | dpkg | it has been said that wine is at http://www.winehq.com/ or #winehq. It stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator or alternative win32 API. very buggy, will be a major part of the death of M$. The sources.list lines are: deb http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main, deb-src http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main. apt-get install shiraz, or a tasty alcoholic beverage. |
| 04:10.51 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: oh |
| 04:11.09 | sanxiyn | pekkele: Yes. |
| 04:11.13 | Xenguy | Solet-deb: /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 04:11.48 | sanxiyn | pekkele: wine is windows emulator (there acronym notwithstanding), winex is a fork concentrating on gaming. |
| 04:11.57 | sanxiyn | (winex=cedega=transgaming, roughly speaking) |
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| 04:12.00 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: should I test it? |
| 04:12.10 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: ya. start it |
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| 04:12.15 | Xenguy | pekkele: a commercial fork in fact |
| 04:12.21 | Solet-deb | Xenguy: those are just the .debs... where do they go when they are unpacked? |
| 04:12.26 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | <Solet-deb> I found the Pic http://www.geocities.com/jasonviera1976/IM002042.JPG |
| 04:12.35 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: Well, nothing forbids commercializing GPL product. |
| 04:12.38 | Xenguy | Solet-deb: ahh... dunno |
| 04:12.41 | pekkele | cool |
| 04:12.59 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: 'commercial' may be the wrong term... |
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| 04:13.13 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: said that my home directory is missing... do I with to login wiht / (root) yada yada... |
| 04:13.18 | deadcat | TMD-TheIOTOWER: thats some old shits (= |
| 04:13.19 | Solet-deb | TMD-TheIOTOWER: can i pm you? |
| 04:13.20 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: I think maybe I mean cedega is 'proprietary' ? |
| 04:13.24 | TwistedLappy | it didnt delete old settings |
| 04:13.29 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: No, it isn't, as far as I know. |
| 04:13.31 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: hmm. |
| 04:13.40 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | <Solet-deb> I found the Pic hers the other pic http://www.geocities.com/jasonviera1976/IM002041.JPG |
| 04:13.43 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: damn you removed /home/ash? |
| 04:13.50 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: no, it is certainly not open source/free software |
| 04:13.58 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: I didnt mean to.. |
| 04:13.59 | TwistedLappy | fuck |
| 04:14.01 | TwistedLappy | did I? |
| 04:14.01 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: try again. |
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| 04:14.12 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Finally got that fix installed and you know what it did it disabled the mouse |
| 04:14.20 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: yes you did. |
| 04:14.28 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | altogether only PS2 mouse will work now |
| 04:14.33 | deadcat | you should only rm .xfce4 or something. ~/.config/xfce4 actually. |
| 04:14.38 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | but at least it doesnt freeze up |
| 04:14.44 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: Eh, no. It is free software, in letter. |
| 04:14.44 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: AWWWWW!!!! I had hella shit in there |
| 04:14.48 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: works |
| 04:14.49 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: You can download source and build. |
| 04:14.50 | Solet-deb | TMD-TheIOTOWER: why would you use any mouse other than ps2 ??? |
| 04:15.03 | Solet-deb | TMD-TheIOTOWER: can i pm you |
| 04:15.04 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | becuase its a laptop |
| 04:15.10 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: If you are not sure, then you should default to a cautious stance... |
| 04:15.14 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | <Solet-deb> yes |
| 04:15.14 | Solet-deb | oohhh :S |
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| 04:15.15 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: But Transgaming urges any distributors not to provide any automation aid for source downloading and building. |
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| 04:15.38 | pekkele | if someone can make counter strike for linux it will be huge succes for linux!!! |
| 04:15.43 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: you lost everything. |
| 04:15.46 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: I am fairly certain (the last time I checked) that cedega is a proprietary extension of the WINE code |
| 04:15.52 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: No. |
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| 04:15.53 | deadcat | pekkele: it works. you just dont know how to get it. |
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| 04:16.00 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: I HATE YOU |
| 04:16.01 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: Wine is GPL. |
| 04:16.06 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: you didnt backup (= |
| 04:16.07 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: ;) jkin |
| 04:16.08 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: having said that I *could* be wrong, but I don't think I am |
| 04:16.20 | pekkele | deadcat: yeah but without emulator ;9 |
| 04:16.25 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: all good... gotta update to testing package now? |
| 04:16.36 | deadcat | pekkele: tell the fuckers at HL to write the codes for linux then (= |
| 04:16.45 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: yes, WINE is GPL, true enough |
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| 04:17.01 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: its already from os-work. i commented the debian line. then install xfce4 then uncomment the line back. |
| 04:17.07 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: And if what you say is true, Transgaming is violating GPL, but they aren't as far as I can tell. |
| 04:17.22 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: so its a new version? |
| 04:17.27 | quitte | Xenguy: you are wrong. once upon a time wine wasn't under the gpl. then there were two licenses applied. on gpl and the other mit. winex used the mit licensed code base |
| 04:17.41 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: i am trying to open the crappy card's case and take the paper out. (= |
| 04:17.43 | sanxiyn | quitte: Really? |
| 04:17.44 | pekkele | deadcat: it was so fantastic for users if they make deb packets, and then just apt-get install counter-strike-1.6 ;) |
| 04:17.45 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: I understand the logic of what you're saying, and now I'm confused :-) |
| 04:17.45 | pekkele | :D |
| 04:17.47 | pekkele | hehe |
| 04:17.48 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: ya. dpkg -l xfce4 |
| 04:17.49 | gandy909 | when sarge becomes stable, all I will have to do from a current stable system is a "apt-get upgrade"? |
| 04:17.52 | pekkele | im dreaming ;) |
| 04:17.55 | sparr_ | i FINALLY got RAID to work again. i had to purge mdadm, zero everything, and start over |
| 04:17.57 | sanxiyn | quitte: That's wrong I think... |
| 04:18.00 | Solet-deb | ~sarge-ttl |
| 04:18.01 | Solet | Sarge is expected to be released in: 2days 37mins 9secs |
| 04:18.07 | Xenguy | quitte: I think you've hit the nail on the head :-) |
| 04:18.08 | gandy909 | ...theoretically |
| 04:18.09 | deadcat | pekkele: if the fuckers willing to give out the source (= |
| 04:18.13 | sanxiyn | quitte: MIT-licensed codebase of Wine is ReWind, not WineX. |
| 04:18.17 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: what quitte said |
| 04:18.31 | pekkele | deadcat: yeah :) |
| 04:18.41 | quitte | sanxiyn: cedega doesnt use wine. that's codeweavers. |
| 04:19.04 | Xenguy | quitte: hrm |
| 04:19.27 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: the shitty card is opened (= |
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| 04:19.47 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: can you use as AP? |
| 04:20.01 | sanxiyn | quitte: No. |
| 04:20.04 | kooldeb | any one knows the difference between step, si and step under GDB ? |
| 04:20.21 | sanxiyn | quitte: winex CVS is public, and winex is using GPL'd wine branch, and backport mainline from time to time. |
| 04:20.23 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: only on windows. linux cant do shit yet. |
| 04:20.42 | quitte | sanxiyn: url? |
| 04:21.01 | gandy909 | Would I be correct in thinking that when Sarge becomes stable, all I will have to do from my Woody system is a "apt-get upgrade" and I'll magically be Sarge? |
| 04:21.04 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: sshonly.sytes.net/airlink101.jpg |
| 04:21.38 | Xenguy | sanxiyn quitte: I'm going to /join #winehq and see what opinions are there |
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| 04:21.50 | Xinux | anybody know any good dock applications for quick launches ? |
| 04:22.05 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: That'd be better :-) |
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| 04:22.27 | Mr-Falkor | SUSE!! |
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| 04:22.40 | kingsley | Has anyone here tried compiling Apple's Tiger Darwwin 8 on x86? Evidently it works. |
| 04:22.43 | sanxiyn | quitte: Yes, WineX CVS is not same as Cedega binary release, but they are including Windows bits (InstallShiled, etc.) |
| 04:23.11 | sanxiyn | quitte: But all wine-derived codes are public, as far as I know. |
| 04:23.13 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: damn i suck at using the camera. blur as hell |
| 04:23.24 | sanxiyn | :pserver:cvs@cvs.transgaming.org:/cvsroot winex |
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| 04:23.45 | kingsley | I think it'd be fun to run OSX under qemu. |
| 04:24.20 | sanxiyn | Eh, not. |
| 04:24.22 | sanxiyn | (wait a min) |
| 04:26.15 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: "< cmorgan> its proprietary and closed" |
| 04:26.18 | Xinux | 1... 2... 3... DESTROY YOUR BIOS CHIP :) |
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| 04:26.45 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: Well, a year or two ago, it was public. |
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| 04:27.37 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: I can't say; I only knew that I'd crossed this bridge sometime recently and the conclusion was that winex was closed |
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| 04:28.38 | zinx | winex, in its fully function form, is closed |
| 04:28.53 | Xenguy | zinx: indeed |
| 04:29.05 | zinx | the CVS is not fully functional |
| 04:29.40 | zinx | fwiw wine proper (the GPL'd one) is improving quite a bit faster than winex anyway |
| 04:30.08 | Xenguy | zinx: that's interesting |
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| 04:30.52 | zinx | Xenguy: kinda what i would expect, really :/ |
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| 04:31.44 | Xenguy | zinx: there is a cool wine site (http://frankscorner.org/) that has instructions for running a *lot* of d0ze apps (including games) apparently |
| 04:31.51 | xaphod | heya... I have an IBM thinkpad with an Intel Centrino wireless card, the ipw2200 chipset/driver. I've been using it on debian for a while, just upgraded to 2.6.x kernel series. I'm finding that discover/hotplug (not sure which) loads the driver before wpa_supplicant starts, which completely crashes the machine (1000s of printk errors), probably becuase ipw2200 driver has some bug (am using newet version, 1.0.4). How does one tell if |
| 04:31.56 | xaphod | it's hotplug/discover loading the module? |
| 04:31.57 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: Well, most of them are available in winehq.org too... |
| 04:32.02 | zinx | Xenguy: oh, i tend to avoid windows software myself |
| 04:32.08 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: (Application Database) |
| 04:33.10 | Xenguy | zinx: me too, but the idea of gaming on linux (without needing d0ze) is kind of interesting (even tho I'm no gamer myself) |
| 04:33.21 | Xenguy | sanxiyn: checking, tx |
| 04:33.52 | sanxiyn | Xenguy: Actually, I think useful compat info elsewhere should be incorporated to WineHQ AppDB. |
| 04:34.10 | sanxiyn | (After registration, you can put comments yourself) |
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| 04:37.55 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | so how do I install sarge |
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| 04:39.07 | xaphod | man wpa supplicant is just a POS |
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| 04:39.39 | Azar | xaphod, you could look at discover and at hotplug to see which drivers loads |
| 04:40.05 | Azar | erm which drivers blocks I mean |
| 04:40.08 | xaphod | yeah, i found that they both load it. I blacklisted ipw2200 in both and that prevented it from being loaded, but, this new version of ipw2200 (1.0.4) just seems to not work with wpa supplicant (0.3.8) |
| 04:40.12 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Anyone know How I can get Sarge Floppies |
| 04:40.39 | trave11er | TMD-TheIOTOWER: the url has been quoted to you numerous times |
| 04:41.02 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | !sarge |
| 04:41.02 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the current testing release code-name, and will be 3.1 when it's released. Ask me about <d-i> to get the installer. Sarge is now FROZEN (no changes except bug fixes). |
| 04:41.04 | Azar | xaphod, maybe your kernel version is not supporting newer drivers? |
| 04:41.20 | trave11er | !debian-installer |
| 04:41.21 | dpkg | i guess debian-installer is the replacement for the aging "boot-floppies" installation system used in all previous versions of debian. The Debian Installer will be the installer for future versions of Debian, beginning with sarge. It has been designed to be more modular, easier to use, and more extensible than the old installation system. see http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/, or ask me about d-i |
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| 04:41.50 | ash_ | how do I list tvtuner cards again? |
| 04:41.53 | bucky | TMD-TheIOTOWER, http://archive.progeny.com/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ |
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| 04:42.40 | Azar | xaphod are you running Woody or Sarge? |
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| 04:43.06 | ash_ | or how to list video cards? |
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| 04:46.41 | deadcat | ash_: lspci -v |
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| 04:47.35 | Solet-deb | can anyone in here help me compile and install the lufs module? |
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| 04:48.55 | sanxiyn | Solet-deb: Use module-assistant! |
| 04:49.01 | mousex | how do I configure my network (domain?) name??? /etc/hostname only shows the name of my debian box, but it doesn't show the local network domain name. However, programs show an attached network name (like localhost.myLANname) |
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| 04:49.06 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: How do I check to see if 0000:00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) is supported or not? |
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| 04:49.21 | Xenguy | yeah, even tho I've managed to ween myself off d0ze software, it's still kind of a cool concept |
| 04:49.25 | Xenguy | ww |
| 04:49.28 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: modprobe bttv and it should work. then install tvtime or somthine |
| 04:49.30 | Solet-deb | sanxiyn: but which file in the lufs directory do i m-a a-i ? |
| 04:49.37 | Azar | hmm people donating money to LinuxFund, nobody picks them up.... |
| 04:49.53 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat, |
| 04:49.55 | Lightning | compiled a new kernel, of course it is having trouble, is there a way to slow down or read all the kernel output? i checked the dmesg file but it only has the last boot, not the failing boot |
| 04:49.59 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat, Weeee... it works. |
| 04:50.18 | mousex | what's the difference between the domain name and the network name, anyway? |
| 04:50.19 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: sweet (=. |
| 04:51.06 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i found the driver for the crappy usb card. it aint prism54. its zd1211 and its not compiling yet. |
| 04:51.32 | xaphod | azar: I'm running sarge. I've just been reading on the ipw2200 mailing list. This new version (1.0.4) is the first to offer monitor mode, and it's severely buggy. Many peeps have my problem, it's just a bad release. So i'll wait for a new version :D |
| 04:52.09 | Azar | mousex I would guess that the domain name would be something like "osix.info" or "mydomain.com" and PC name would be like "MyPCName" aka "ANAMEFORYOURCOMPUTER" |
| 04:52.09 | deadcat | !peeps |
| 04:52.10 | dpkg | peeps is probably a marshmallow chick product by Just Born, http://www.marshmallowpeeps.com There have been no confirmed sightings of these marshmallows on IRC, so anyone asking for them is being optimistic at best. stick them in the microwave for 30 seconds for a yummy treat. The Unofficial Peeps FAQ is available at (http://www.geekbabe.com/peeps/peepfaq.html) |
| 04:52.22 | deadcat | !moron xaphod |
| 04:52.23 | dpkg | xaphod: You are moron #28 |
| 04:52.45 | xaphod | i am? how did I manage to have this honor bestowed upon me? |
| 04:52.47 | Azar | xaphood, what kernel version with that sarge? |
| 04:52.53 | xaphod | 2.6.11.11 |
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| 04:53.11 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: gay. |
| 04:53.23 | xaphod | ohhhh because I used the word "peeps". Man I thought #linux on EFNet was bad :P |
| 04:53.31 | mousex | Azar, not the the pc (host) name, but the "network" name that many routers allow you to have. What's the difference? |
| 04:53.33 | Azar | damn oh well, I picked a safe officially sarge precompiled kernel... so I guess it is on your own if you use an unofficial kernel |
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| 04:53.43 | fan | jogja |
| 04:54.00 | xaphod | Azar: true, true. No worries, it's definitely a buggy driver and they're working on it (2 P1-critical bugs) |
| 04:54.12 | Azar | mousex, the network name would be the gateway IP but I might be dumb... |
| 04:54.24 | mousex | Azar: :D |
| 04:54.29 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: no wonder its $15. shitty chipset |
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| 04:55.23 | mousex | Azar: anyway, I got rid of the "network" name on my router, but I had already configured Linux to use that network name (as the domain name, I think), so now giFTd won't work and mozilla freezes. |
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| 04:56.07 | fan | yupyyyyyyyol |
| 04:56.11 | mousex | Azar: any idea how to get rid of the network name in the debian box? |
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| 04:56.31 | mousex | Azar: the option was originally at install time, when configuring the network. |
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| 04:56.49 | Azar | mousex, the way I remember the settings are in /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 04:57.08 | Azar | mousex so you could experiment editing that file |
| 04:57.18 | kalessin | mousex you might also look in /etc/hostname. |
| 04:57.29 | mousex | Azar, yeah, that's what I though too, but I only see stuff about eth0 and wireless in there |
| 04:57.57 | mousex | kalessin, Azar: /etc/hostname only shows "quantumIP" -- which is the name of my computer |
| 04:58.04 | Azar | mousex, I do not have a network name but if you see anything that reminds you of that network name, you can # comment that line out see what happens |
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| 04:58.24 | kalessin | mousex what then do you mean by 'network name' ? |
| 04:58.33 | mousex | Azar, I will if I see it, but first I have to find the file . . . |
| 04:58.45 | Azar | kalessin, yeah me too is the first time I hear that, but hey I do not have a network |
| 04:59.18 | mousex | kalessin, that's what I'm trying to figure out. My router had an option to give my network a name, so I did. Then, I installed Linux, and used the same thing, probably as dns name . . I don't know. |
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| 04:59.29 | Azar | getting inventive here, is dpkg-reconfigure working for the network settings? |
| 04:59.52 | mousex | Azar: on what, especifically? base-config? |
| 05:00.08 | Azar | ahhhhh then I guess you could work to reconfigure your router instead |
| 05:00.19 | kalessin | mousex What router are you using? maybe the documentation for the router (if it is online) might be more specific about what the frack this means. |
| 05:00.46 | mousex | it's a weird d-link voip router/phoneATA . . . I'll look it up |
| 05:00.52 | Azar | mousex, when I used D-Link I had an online interface and OVER THERE I would reconfigure whatever the router configuration was, not on the OS |
| 05:01.28 | kalessin | mousex "network name" sounds vaguely like a samba "workgroup". |
| 05:01.51 | mousex | I now, but the nework name gave me some trouble with voip on internal computers, so I had to get rid of it; it was easy to get rid off in windows computers, but I don't know how to do it here. I don't think its got to do with samba, though. |
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| 05:01.55 | mousex | or who knows . . . |
| 05:01.59 | Azar | some routers have outside the PC configuration, independent |
| 05:02.00 | mousex | :? |
| 05:02.12 | hackers | hmm |
| 05:02.15 | hackers | so im wondering |
| 05:02.33 | hackers | wtf happened to my icons from my desktop in gnome here |
| 05:02.34 | mousex | isn't there a package to reconfigure the network using dpkg-reconfigure??? |
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| 05:02.48 | mousex | hackers: did you upgrade, or something? |
| 05:02.56 | hackers | yeah a couple times |
| 05:03.01 | hackers | finally restarted |
| 05:03.07 | mousex | hackers: maybe a refresh and restarting the session helps? |
| 05:03.10 | hackers | but not just before the icons disappears |
| 05:04.05 | hackers | well |
| 05:04.07 | sparr_ | how can i tell what filesystem is on a partition? |
| 05:04.17 | hackers | not knowing what to do im running a new update/upgrade cycle |
| 05:04.26 | hackers | i just did a restart of the computer mousex |
| 05:04.29 | r3tr0 | sparr_: man df |
| 05:04.42 | mousex | sparr_: mount it as "auto" and then read /proc/mounts |
| 05:04.59 | mousex | hackers: are you running sarge? |
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| 05:05.18 | hackers | um |
| 05:05.34 | hackers | im running whatever was the very latest a few weeks ago was testing or something |
| 05:05.45 | mousex | hum.... |
| 05:05.56 | hackers | how do i tell what version im running? |
| 05:05.57 | sparr_ | r3tr0: you realize "df -T" would have been less characters to type, saving both of us time? |
| 05:06.13 | Azar | hackers uname -r |
| 05:06.40 | mousex | Azar, uname -r shows the kernel version |
| 05:06.47 | Azar | oh |
| 05:06.56 | hackers | 2.6.10-1-k7 |
| 05:07.14 | Hyde | sarge :) |
| 05:07.20 | mousex | hackers, cat /proc/version |
| 05:07.26 | r3tr0 | sparr_: give a man a fish... ;) |
| 05:07.44 | hackers | Linux version 2.6.10-1-k7 (dilinger@mouth) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8)) #1 Fri Mar 11 03:13:32 EST 2005 |
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| 05:07.48 | trave11er | latest kernel in sarge is 2.6.8 |
| 05:08.00 | mousex | hackers, did you upgrade with "apt-get dist-upgrade" or just "apt-get upgrade" ??? |
| 05:08.03 | Hyde | really? |
| 05:08.17 | Hyde | it hadn't changed in a while then |
| 05:08.42 | hackers | did both mousex |
| 05:08.42 | Azar | sarge release notes recommends that aptitude be installed before upgrading |
| 05:08.48 | mousex | Azar, it seems installing etherconf solved my problem :) |
| 05:08.48 | trave11er | not only it is latest, but it it is going to be The Kernel of sarge |
| 05:08.49 | hackers | and apt-get update too |
| 05:08.51 | trave11er | :-) |
| 05:09.20 | mousex | hackers, then may I suggest you start with a new session (as oppossed to a saved session)? |
| 05:09.30 | Azar | the new aptitude prevents package dependencies conflicts at upgrade time better than apt-get |
| 05:09.43 | hackers | ah i c |
| 05:09.46 | hackers | ok brb then |
| 05:09.53 | Hyde | so debians naming should is now where it should of started at |
| 05:09.56 | mwilson | Azar: Except that it doesn't, of course. |
| 05:10.14 | Azar | mwilson it does not? oh my I am being so naive |
| 05:10.25 | mousex | !congratulate Azar |
| 05:10.27 | dpkg | Woohoo Azar, you did it! |
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| 05:11.13 | Azar | upon my dreaded experiences from 2 weeks ago: I just went bold and upgraded to Sarge without aptitude, installed aptitude only "the day after" and I had all kind of mess struggling to install driver modules |
| 05:11.15 | plovs | anybody install debian on an ibm pc server 330? |
| 05:11.48 | mousex | !tell plovs about polls |
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| 05:11.53 | Azar | then I reinstalled, Woody ofcourse, updated/upgraded, installed aptitude then switced to sarge, everything went way nicer than the first try |
| 05:11.55 | sparr_ | r3tr0: all i wanted was a fish :) |
| 05:11.58 | mwilson | Azar: The package manager, of course, has zero influence over "package dependency conflicts", since it can neither set those dependencies, nor alter them once they have been set by the package(s) being installed. |
| 05:12.12 | hackers | nope no good mousex |
| 05:12.23 | mousex | hackers, man, that sucks |
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| 05:12.38 | r3tr0 | sparr_: i'll blame my pole-giving attitude on my [hour|lack of coffee|marital problems] |
| 05:12.46 | Azar | mwilson what I can only say is that the last install/upgrade went way better and the nvidia and alsa went smooth this second try |
| 05:12.54 | swim | anyone know where the i686 precompiled kernel is? |
| 05:13.08 | mousex | hackers, it happened sometimes to me with KDE because certain net modules were installed, so I just deleted the /home/mousex/.kde, but that made me lose my configuration settings |
| 05:13.11 | mwilson | Azar: Further, aptitude and apt-get are both using the same library for dependency resolution... namely, libapt. |
| 05:13.22 | plovs | lets put that differently :-) i can't get my cd do be recognized in install step 2 |
| 05:13.34 | mousex | hackers: you might think about it as a last resort . .. or you might try http://www.debianhelp.org/ |
| 05:13.34 | plovs | on a pc 330 server |
| 05:13.40 | hackers | see i dont know shit about all this man |
| 05:13.40 | Solet-deb | hey i did m-a a-i lufs-source and i got this error: |
| 05:13.41 | Azar | mwilson why then the sarge release notes stress on getting aptitude before upgrading to sarge? |
| 05:13.42 | Solet-deb | FATAL: Could not rename /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/modules.dep.temp into /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/modules.dep: No such file or directory |
| 05:13.57 | hackers | got to understand my best thinking just got me here from windows a few weeks ago |
| 05:14.24 | mousex | hackers: do you have any configurations you really don't want to lose, apart from desktop background, etc.? |
| 05:14.25 | mwilson | Azar: Because apt-get is a demonstration tool written to showcase libapt, and was *never* intended to be anything other than that. |
| 05:14.43 | mousex | hackers: uh, migrating from windows . . . |
| 05:14.55 | mwilson | Azar: Aptitude is a package manager. Apt-get is not. |
| 05:15.00 | Azar | hackers, I have 3 years of learning Debian, and I am still a newbie, but I like learning so I keep going at it |
| 05:15.26 | Azar | oh mwilson, thanks for the enlightning |
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| 05:16.00 | mousex | hackers, if you really have nothing to lose, delete the .gnome and .gnome2 directories in your home file (but without loggin into gnome!!!) |
| 05:16.02 | Azar | hackers, but do not get horrified, I have a full time job Debian is my 2 hours day hobby |
| 05:16.08 | mousex | hackers, wait . . . |
| 05:16.33 | mousex | hackers, in that window where you type your password to login, do you see a menu that says sessions? select failsafe |
| 05:17.01 | mousex | hackers, and then type "exit" and login with gnome again. |
| 05:17.37 | mousex | you little . . . |
| 05:17.44 | hackers | ooo |
| 05:17.46 | hackers | hey mousex |
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| 05:18.48 | hackers | i saw something about someone having trouble with nautilus, and i think that was what crashed not too long before i noticed the icons were gone.. was watching some anime at the time >.< what can i do to see 1. if its running and 2. to run it if not and 3. to fix it if broken? |
| 05:19.19 | mousex | hackers: type "ps -e" to see what's running |
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| 05:19.38 | mousex | hackers, now, to fix it if it's broken . . . your screwed until they fix it. |
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| 05:20.44 | mousex | hackers, but as a suggestion from newbie to newbie, KDE is far easier to use and much more stable than gnome for somebody coming from the M$-Window$ monopoly. |
| 05:20.46 | hackers | nope ^_^ i dont think its running at all :D |
| 05:21.07 | hardcampa- | KDE is hardly stabler than gnome |
| 05:21.12 | hackers | yeah there are nice things in gnome i guess i got used to i guess |
| 05:21.15 | hackers | *sighs |
| 05:21.25 | mousex | hardcampa-: it is, since nautilus was made default fm |
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| 05:21.41 | hardcampa- | Nautilus used to be a real mess I agree |
| 05:21.46 | hackers | so lets see how do i tell it to run nautilus? |
| 05:21.52 | Azar | I have no idea about KDE or Gnome, I go with whatever Sarge gives, xdm and hop openbox on top ... |
| 05:22.59 | mousex | I still don't like nautilus |
| 05:22.59 | hardcampa- | I don't really like it either |
| 05:22.59 | mousex | so dropped gnome a year ago |
| 05:22.59 | hardcampa- | why not just drop nautilus |
| 05:22.59 | hardcampa- | use rox for example instead |
| 05:22.59 | mousex | because nautilus is really the heart of gnome |
| 05:22.59 | hardcampa- | nah |
| 05:22.59 | mousex | besides, kde offers more functionality than gnome . . . especially on the desktop and window manager |
| 05:23.01 | mousex | (s) |
| 05:23.16 | mousex | Azar: that's fast |
| 05:23.19 | hackers | well |
| 05:23.22 | hackers | ill brb again |
| 05:23.31 | hardcampa- | mousex mor functionality isn't always a good thing imho |
| 05:23.34 | hardcampa- | more* |
| 05:23.48 | hardcampa- | matter of taste |
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| 05:23.54 | Azar | mousex, I am not quite using a desktop yet, X scares me |
| 05:23.56 | mousex | hackers, what options do you get in the login window? |
| 05:24.01 | hackers | bingo |
| 05:24.04 | hackers | got it to work man |
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| 05:24.33 | mousex | hardcampa-: I admit, kde isn't so fast, but now that I got an AMD at 2+ GHz, that's not an issue |
| 05:24.45 | hackers | what i did was just type nautilus in a terminal window and close the terminal and get a nautilus error and chose the option to restart it and boom! there they were again |
| 05:24.46 | deadcat | oh man. i got master mode on my crappy usb wireless g card (= |
| 05:24.46 | hackers | LD |
| 05:24.49 | hackers | er :D |
| 05:24.49 | Azar | damn #xmms people are not helping at all |
| 05:24.52 | mousex | Azar: consoles care me :) |
| 05:25.18 | Azar | mousex, X is a totally new field for me it is a big unknown so I shy of using something I do not know |
| 05:25.20 | hardcampa- | mousex: I really like KDE only thing I got against it is that it's built ontop of qt. Which I really can't stand. |
| 05:25.22 | mousex | hackers, Azar, I guess consoles CAN be helpful . . . |
| 05:25.31 | hackers | sweet, thanx for the mental prodding lol mousex |
| 05:25.35 | hackers | hmm brb |
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| 05:25.44 | mousex | hackers, good job, man |
| 05:26.07 | mousex | hardcampa-, what's qt, and what's wrong with it? |
| 05:26.12 | mousex | a non-free gtk? |
| 05:26.45 | swim | what in gods name... apt-get install gnome wants to install 659MB! |
| 05:26.45 | hardcampa- | qt is the widget toolkit kde uses |
| 05:26.46 | swim | ? |
| 05:26.47 | mousex | Azar, what help do you seek on xmms? |
| 05:27.02 | hardcampa- | mousex: qt is what creates the button etc |
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| 05:27.20 | mousex | hardcampa-: but what's so wrong with it? |
| 05:27.30 | mousex | swim: wow |
| 05:27.31 | hardcampa- | Too blocky feeling |
| 05:27.46 | hardcampa- | there's a feeling of borders upon borders etc for me |
| 05:27.48 | mousex | hardcampa-: blocky? doesn't it depend on the theme? |
| 05:27.59 | mousex | uh, i c |
| 05:28.02 | hardcampa- | mousex haven't found a single theme that gives me narrow borders |
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| 05:28.31 | Azar | mousex, I am not sure but it might be that the only filetype I listen to : .it, .xm, .mod are not playing |
| 05:28.45 | mousex | hardcampa: well, then I guess it is a matter of taste. I've got a laptop now, so big borders make using the stupid touchpad easier :D |
| 05:29.05 | mousex | Azar: do you have the mod plug-in active? |
| 05:29.17 | mousex | Azar: and do other type of files play well? |
| 05:29.26 | Azar | mousex, I have no idea , I am new at this type of player |
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| 05:29.42 | Azar | mousex, I do not have other type of files, just .mod type |
| 05:29.49 | mousex | Azar: right click, and go to options -> preferences |
| 05:30.26 | Azar | mousex ok |
| 05:30.36 | Solet-deb | how do i make chmod change permissions on all contents of a directory |
| 05:30.48 | mousex | Azar, what do you see in the input plugins? |
| 05:30.49 | drp | chmod -R |
| 05:30.50 | drp | ? |
| 05:31.12 | Solet-deb | thanks... if it works that is... :P |
| 05:31.17 | Azar | plugins: CD Audio Player, MPEG Layer, OggVorbis Player, Tone Generator, Wave Player ... thats all |
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| 05:31.55 | mousex | Azar: I'm not sure if any of those plays mod, but we have to check if other files are playing first. |
| 05:31.58 | Solet-deb | yeah thanks drp |
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| 05:32.11 | mousex | Azar: /usr/share/sounds might have some wave or ogg files |
| 05:32.58 | Azar | the only reason I picked xmms is because it is "said" to play 'mod' files but I see it does not |
| 05:33.34 | mousex | Azar: you need xmms-modplug to play mod files |
| 05:33.51 | Azar | cool getting it now |
| 05:34.15 | kputnam | i can't figure this out: i'm running a command like this ssh host 'tail -f log' | ./filter > out and it doesn't produce output to "out" until i kill it. when i run it without output redirection it, it displays output in real-time |
| 05:34.19 | pekkele | where is can get unrar |
| 05:34.29 | pekkele | where i can get unrar |
| 05:34.39 | pekkele | im running sarge |
| 05:34.57 | Dashiva | i thought it was in non-free |
| 05:35.10 | pekkele | with what name |
| 05:35.13 | FlimFlamMan | i'm installing a debian server dual-boot with a red hat 7.2 server. can i use the same /boot, /home, and swap used by red hat? |
| 05:35.14 | mousex | isn't it part of the rar package> |
| 05:35.29 | r3tr0 | kputnam: maybe use 'cat' instead of 'tail'... |
| 05:35.49 | trave11er | kputnam: tail -f blocks |
| 05:35.50 | pekkele | Dashiva: i check |
| 05:35.59 | Azar | mousex, it does suggest installation of "rar" |
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| 05:36.11 | r3tr0 | kputnam: trave11er's got it. words failed me. |
| 05:36.41 | mousex | Azar, once you apt-get install xmms-modplug, restart xmms or the plugin won't load. |
| 05:36.45 | trave11er | pekkele: unrar-nonfree, i think |
| 05:36.49 | kputnam | r3tr0, trave11r: okay. why does it work without output redirection (on the client) though? |
| 05:37.03 | jablko | i keep getting - |
| 05:37.05 | jablko | dpkg: error processing pdns-server (--configure): |
| 05:37.05 | jablko | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:37.08 | trave11er | there was recently some unrar juggling going on, like some old free version appeared in main |
| 05:37.20 | Azar | mousex when I install I allways get out of X so it gonna be ok |
| 05:37.21 | trave11er | and the one in non-free is more recent |
| 05:37.26 | jablko | but i'm not sure what's wrong with the postinst script |
| 05:37.35 | jablko | any suggestions for debugging shell script? |
| 05:37.41 | trave11er | jablko: look at it? |
| 05:37.55 | mousex | Azar: there's no need for that, though |
| 05:37.57 | jablko | trave11er: : ) done that |
| 05:38.00 | r3tr0 | kputnam: not flushing to disk until you kill it? maybe try running it through 'tee'? |
| 05:38.05 | pekkele | cant install unrar :( |
| 05:38.14 | Azar | mousex, I feel better installing from console, X is scaring me |
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| 05:38.27 | r3tr0 | jablko: lots of "echo" statements? |
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| 05:38.30 | mousex | Azar: I take it you were never a windows user . . . |
| 05:38.33 | kputnam | r3tr0: i tried tee also, strangely it doesn't produce any output (to the file or terminal) even after being killed |
| 05:38.35 | Azar | pekkele unrar seems to be either obsolete, either not working with Sarge |
| 05:39.03 | trave11er | oh, the old one is unrar-free, and unrar is recent |
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| 05:39.12 | trave11er | pekkele: why can't you install it? |
| 05:39.13 | jablko | r3tr0: isn't there some flag to show on which line it's exiting w/ status 20? |
| 05:39.14 | Azar | mousex, I am but I feel more comfortable in console, I can "see" stuff that windows covers |
| 05:39.16 | Solet-deb | what are "uid" and "gid" |
| 05:39.33 | pekkele | trave11er: apt-get install unrar dont work |
| 05:39.36 | Solet-deb | user and group? thats all i can think of |
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| 05:39.42 | mousex | Azar: there's also xterm and tkworld, you know . . . |
| 05:39.43 | trave11er | jablko: you can just stick set -x at the top somewhere |
| 05:39.54 | trave11er | jablko: it will print all commands as they are executed |
| 05:40.00 | kputnam | r3tr0: scratch that, it behaves the same as output redirection... only produces output when ssh is done |
| 05:40.01 | trave11er | pekkele: error message please |
| 05:40.12 | P8ntKid | Ok can someone choose for me. What should i isntall, Sarge, Mepis, Ubuntu or Gentoo? |
| 05:40.23 | mousex | sarge |
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| 05:40.25 | mousex | there |
| 05:40.32 | Azar | uh yeah but they look like DoS-Clone in WinXP :) |
| 05:40.47 | P8ntKid | But isnt sarge mostly for servers? |
| 05:40.59 | mousex | Azar: :) well, give tkworld a shot; it's a hybrid of console and buttons .. . quite fun |
| 05:41.15 | Solet-deb | P8ntKid: why do you ask a question then agrue with your answer? |
| 05:41.32 | pekkele | trave11er: Package unrar is not available, but referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only abailable from another source |
| 05:41.36 | Solet-deb | p8ntkid: you're in the debian channel ofcourse everyone here is gonna say install debian |
| 05:41.44 | Solet-deb | and sarge is the only debian os you listed |
| 05:41.54 | Solet-deb | s/os/distro |
| 05:42.05 | Solet-deb | fuck |
| 05:42.11 | mousex | P8ntKid, sarge is not only for servers; it's great for desktop |
| 05:42.12 | trave11er | pekkele: do you have any non-free sources in you /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 05:42.29 | Azar | awesome!! thanks mousex, now I can have my .it files playing :) |
| 05:42.33 | mousex | P8ntKid, in fact, sarge is the recommended version of debian for desktop users |
| 05:42.36 | Solet-deb | s/s\/os\/distro/s\/os\/version |
| 05:42.40 | mousex | Azar: yup |
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| 05:43.09 | kjparker | hi, I have an asus wifi@home wireless card in my system. I have found some instructions here: http://www.linux-militia.net/howtos/asus/asuswifi.html on how to install it however when I go to the section where it says to "make" i get the following error |
| 05:43.12 | pekkele | trave11er yeah |
| 05:43.16 | mousex | Azar: what's .it and .mod, anyway? I installed the plug-in without having any idea what it plays . . . |
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| 05:43.22 | kjparker | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 05:43.22 | kjparker | rt2400.ko failed to build! |
| 05:43.22 | kjparker | make: *** [module] Error 1 |
| 05:43.39 | kjparker | ooops that was meant to be one line... |
| 05:43.59 | mousex | kjparker: don't paste here |
| 05:44.00 | Azar | mousex, let me give you one to listen ( there are superenhanced midi sound files ) |
| 05:44.05 | pekkele | trave11er: deb http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/linux/mirrors/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 05:44.12 | mousex | kjparker: do you have the kernel-headers package installed? |
| 05:44.25 | kjparker | i beleive so, but I will double check |
| 05:44.32 | kjparker | is that what it's looking for? |
| 05:44.51 | trave11er | pekkele: Get:1 http://archive.progeny.com sid/non-free unrar 1:3.5.2-0.1 [87.9kB] |
| 05:44.56 | trave11er | works fine here |
| 05:44.58 | mousex | kjparker: that's my guess; also, you might have to do ./configure before make |
| 05:45.16 | trave11er | pekkele: ahh, it's not in testing probably |
| 05:45.17 | mousex | Azar: superenhanced midi? interesting. |
| 05:45.24 | trave11er | pekkele: only in sid |
| 05:45.35 | Azar | mousex go here: http://www.modarchive.com/artists/solo/ scroll down and download a sample solo-coa.it (Coming of Age) , unzip and listen |
| 05:45.37 | pekkele | i need to add http://archive.progeny.com sid/non-free in sources.list ?? |
| 05:46.08 | trave11er | pekkele: this will upgrade your entire system to sid, if you run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade |
| 05:46.19 | Azar | mousex I got an entire collection of hand-picked mod's solo collection is awesome |
| 05:46.20 | mousex | Azar: downloading . . . |
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| 05:47.06 | liable | kjparker: I think you'll find you need the kernel source as well, build is a symlink back to , /usr/src.linux |
| 05:47.24 | rob_lt | Can somebody recommend a fully supported PCMCIA wireless card, preferably with the ability to attach an external antenna? My eyes are going to fall out from reading all the useless info on the net. |
| 05:47.28 | liable | s/.linux/ /linux |
| 05:47.59 | pekkele | trave11er: i did it, still dont find package ::8 |
| 05:48.02 | pekkele | :( |
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| 05:48.13 | mousex | rob_lt: roamabout, or a prism-based card |
| 05:48.33 | simonrvn | kjparker: try make menuconfig first... |
| 05:48.37 | rob_lt | mousex: did not read about he roamabout, thanks.. I'll check into that too. |
| 05:48.46 | trave11er | pekkele: you did what? |
| 05:49.29 | pekkele | trave11er: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 05:49.42 | mousex | Azar, this .it files are huge! unlike midi . . . |
| 05:49.51 | pekkele | trave11er: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, then i try apt-get install unrar. |
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| 05:50.14 | trave11er | pekkele: dunno, your mirror is outdated, or something? |
| 05:50.22 | toto | hi |
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| 05:50.42 | pekkele | trave11er maybee :) |
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| 05:50.58 | pekkele | trave11er: can i someway update mirrors |
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| 05:51.50 | toto | is there a toolkit like php-my-admin on linux(which packages on debian please) |
| 05:52.36 | trave11er | pekkele: you can switch to an up-to-date one |
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| 05:52.56 | simonrvn | toto: apt-cache search foo bar |
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| 05:53.26 | jablko | now i get - |
| 05:53.27 | jablko | exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/pdns-server.postinst configure 2.9.17-12 |
| 05:53.28 | jablko | dpkg: error processing pdns-server (--configure): |
| 05:53.28 | jablko | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.28 | jablko | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 05:53.28 | jablko | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:54.00 | Azar | mousex, yes but great sound quality |
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| 05:54.57 | simonrvn | ... |
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| 05:55.57 | toto | when i open the mozilla browser ,i've always this error : label="&vnkbutton.label;"tooltiptext="&vnkbutton.label;"/> |
| 05:56.26 | toto | in all pages i'm opening!! |
| 05:56.38 | simonrvn | try updating and upgrading. it's probably fixed |
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| 05:56.55 | toto | and it's always in the bottom of gui |
| 05:57.44 | binarydigit_ | ahhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 05:57.44 | binarydigit_ | im freaking out |
| 05:57.44 | Azar | oops |
| 05:57.44 | pekkele | what was dat |
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| 05:57.56 | simonrvn | plop, 'split |
| 05:57.56 | r3tr0 | PRESSING Y! |
| 05:57.56 | simonrvn | pekkele: a netsplit |
| 05:58.07 | binarydigit_ | banana actually |
| 05:58.16 | pekkele | aha |
| 05:58.16 | simonrvn | WALLOP dmwaters: Hi all! We just lost one of our main rotation servers. I'm currently looking into the situation |
| 05:58.20 | HC|Idler | as i said |
| 05:58.22 | Azar | hmm strange I am on tolkien why haven't I disconnected? |
| 05:58.36 | Phated | Azar: To people on other servers, you have. |
| 05:58.36 | binarydigit_ | Azar: dont push your luck |
| 05:58.43 | Azar | :) |
| 05:59.15 | simonrvn | 2 days to release |
| 05:59.22 | Solet | Sarge is expected to be released in: 1day 22hrs 55mins 48secs |
| 05:59.26 | Azar | nice |
| 05:59.27 | Solet | to be exact |
| 05:59.41 | Solet | ~sarge-ttl will trigger it if you care :P |
| 05:59.46 | Azar | I just got a new dpkg too with dist-upgrade right now |
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| 06:00.34 | JDahl | aren't there still release critical bugs that needs to be fixed before the release? |
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| 06:01.51 | Solet | JDahl: they got about 2 days... come on trust in them... |
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| 06:01.51 | Solet | plus i've heard its ready the just pushed it back to let all the hype build... but i cant verify that |
| 06:02.06 | streuner | anyway, we have a party to fix those ;-) |
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| 06:03.27 | streuner | party in this case = hard work |
| 06:04.02 | simonrvn | then we can get xorg, and oldap 2.2 and 2.3, and some other new stuff (that i've been building locally) ;) |
| 06:04.19 | Solet-deb | how do i turn mount -t lufs none /home/solet/soletscripts.com -o fs=ftpfs,host=mydomain.com,username=me,password=secret,uid=solet,gid=lufs into a line for /etc/fstab |
| 06:04.20 | liable | sounds like a good one to be fasionably late too. |
| 06:05.45 | streuner | simonrvn: well :-) |
| 06:05.59 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 06:07.22 | streuner | simonrvn: still on woody? |
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| 06:07.54 | simonrvn | no. moved from woody a while ago. this thing is sid, one of my home servers is too, another on sarge |
| 06:08.22 | Solet-deb | a server on sid? hope its nothing important |
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| 06:08.45 | pekkele | fuq i cant install unrar :( it dont find a package |
| 06:09.02 | simonrvn | main box actually. yes i know, i'm nuts ;) |
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| 06:09.24 | liable | pekkele: you need no free, I think, or just get the .deb from sid |
| 06:09.28 | simonrvn | i keep it up to date, build stuff local, etc. |
| 06:09.29 | liable | non |
| 06:09.30 | toto | in which file can i configure my iptables |
| 06:09.40 | pekkele | liable: i have non-free |
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| 06:09.50 | streuner | mhall: hi |
| 06:10.04 | liable | pekkele: updated after putting it in? |
| 06:10.05 | pekkele | liable where i can can that in *.deb |
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| 06:10.22 | pekkele | liable yeah |
| 06:10.34 | liable | pekkele: debian.org of course :) |
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| 06:11.32 | kjparker | ok, the kernel headers did the trick, it's now asking for qt-x11-free-3.1.1 or later..... |
| 06:11.42 | kjparker | i can't find that package... |
| 06:12.08 | kjparker | any suggestions? |
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| 06:14.28 | damripp | where do i go for xebian info? |
| 06:14.56 | streuner_ | xebian? |
| 06:15.00 | streuner_ | !xebian |
| 06:15.00 | dpkg | i guess xebian is debian for xbox, probably comletely broken, or yet another not-debian distro |
| 06:15.39 | streuner_ | damripp: using google? |
| 06:16.21 | Solet | debian for an xbox.... thats fuckin cool |
| 06:16.38 | pekkele | hehehe |
| 06:16.52 | streuner_ | xbox is a 700 Mhz with nvidia videocard - not more |
| 06:17.46 | Solet-deb | how do i force a umount.... it says the device is busy but it cant be its a mounted ftp and its not sending or recieving anything |
| 06:17.54 | simonrvn | -l |
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| 06:18.00 | damripp | i need live help. ohwelll., but im using my xbox here now. |
| 06:18.00 | simonrvn | means lazy umount |
| 06:18.02 | fo0bar | Solet: we have a machine at work named xbox... but it's a box that has X on it :) |
| 06:18.06 | streuner_ | i create a whole bs and take an african name - voila i have success ;-) |
| 06:18.19 | raghu | hi all i am generating ssl certificate ....when it asks password if i hit enter it says it should be 4 char...but if i give password when rebooting system hangs at apache...whwt to do? |
| 06:18.29 | toto | what is this package apt-cache search foo bar what's that?(foo bar) |
| 06:19.11 | streuner_ | searchstring |
| 06:19.23 | toto | i've asked a question about php-my-admin and someone gived me this response but.. don't unerstand! |
| 06:19.52 | streuner_ | damripp: prolly out of luck here... |
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| 06:20.20 | simonrvn | toto: apt-cache search php mysql admin |
| 06:20.37 | toto | ok |
| 06:20.41 | Solet-deb | toto foo and bar are universal variables.... if you were looknig for php-my-admin and they sad apt-cache search foo bar your command is.... ok what simonrvn just said |
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| 06:21.35 | damripp | where can i find a list of keyborad shortcuts for the GUI im running? |
| 06:21.44 | Devida | fdsddf |
| 06:21.58 | toto | oh i'm sorry ! |
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| 06:22.18 | Solet-deb | anyone in here use lufs? i cant make it mount a specific directory from the ftp host using the mount command.... i can with the lufsmount but with lufsmount i wont be able to easily change that to an fstab line |
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| 06:22.41 | simonrvn | damripp: and we're supposed to guess what it is right? |
| 06:22.43 | liable | Solet-deb: lsof /dev/blah and kill the prcess using it |
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| 06:22.55 | streuner_ | damripp: are you learn-resistent? |
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| 06:22.59 | Devida | Palangkaraya |
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| 06:23.05 | daye | is there a package for animation, say, to produce animated gif images? |
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| 06:23.06 | simonrvn | liable: what? |
| 06:23.11 | Solet-deb | liable fixed that problem a while ago |
| 06:23.13 | simonrvn | Gershwin: um |
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| 06:23.22 | streuner_ | damripp: I told you before, we have hardly no idea about xebian, nor xbox |
| 06:23.27 | liable | simonrvn: I wrote that before his last post |
| 06:23.31 | Devida | Hi |
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| 06:23.48 | liable | yes I am a bit slow today |
| 06:24.26 | Solet-deb | liable: any ideas on my current question? |
| 06:24.39 | streuner_ | damripp: go and google for a ML (mailing-list) or a forum or such |
| 06:24.48 | liable | Solet-deb: nope, sorry, never used it :( |
| 06:24.51 | damripp | k. ill piss off now |
| 06:26.31 | Huddlebum | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:26.36 | sussudio | !annoy penix |
| 06:26.36 | dpkg | exit |
| 06:27.29 | daye | anyone knows of any package for animation, say, to produce animated gif images? |
| 06:28.46 | sussudio | !tell daye about search |
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| 06:30.03 | Solet-deb | hey with mount are the options uid and gid numbers or is uid=solet correct? |
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| 06:31.14 | liable | either should work I think |
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| 06:32.08 | toto | what is the processus getty? |
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| 06:33.41 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 06:34.00 | daye | sussudio, no help at all, i can't even guess the package name. |
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| 06:34.49 | liable | daye: not very graphics oriented, but I believe gimp can do it. |
| 06:35.07 | nullvoid | I got a website project to complete, I had look at mambo and plone, but confuse in better content based website to venture on, any advice is appreciated |
| 06:35.13 | simonrvn | gimp can. make layers for each frame. |
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| 06:35.35 | simonrvn | make a lyer per frame, then save it as an animated gif |
| 06:35.51 | simonrvn | might be some steps missing, but that's the gist |
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| 06:36.27 | kpg | has anyone configured an smc 7007 adsl usb modem to work in sarge? |
| 06:36.31 | daye | liable, simonrvn, what about the timing? |
| 06:36.56 | simonrvn | you'll see it when it comes to it. there's a plugin too IIRC |
| 06:37.12 | kpg | pppoeconf does not seem to detect the modem on my usb port. |
| 06:37.42 | Solet-deb | when mounting a filesystem, if i just want to mount a particular directory on that file system how would i do it |
| 06:38.05 | liable | daye: irc.gimp.org /j #gimp |
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| 06:38.30 | liable | daye: tons of tutorials about gimp out there too. |
| 06:38.39 | daye | liable, that place is as good as dead. i've been there. |
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| 06:38.54 | openfly | so uhm... |
| 06:39.08 | ardy | what linux kernel sound lib shoul I use for a Creative Audigy 2 when making a custom kernel |
| 06:39.13 | openfly | who do i inform about a thoroughly broken set of packages in the stable apt repository branch? |
| 06:39.23 | daye | i am currently using gimp. it is a good image generator but not animated image. |
| 06:39.33 | simonrvn | alsa will work i think. |
| 06:39.36 | openfly | anyone? |
| 06:39.48 | ardy | simonrvn: but which alsa driver? |
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| 06:39.56 | Solet-deb | openfly: thuroughly broken woody packages? are you sure? what packages |
| 06:40.06 | openfly | the openafs packages. |
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| 06:40.20 | ardy | simonrvn: I tryied the (Creative) Ensoniq AudioPCI but it didn't work |
| 06:40.22 | lith | where can i find a debian build of php5? |
| 06:40.23 | openfly | they have apparently not been seeing updates for quite some time. |
| 06:40.34 | openfly | they are looking for dependencies that are legacy at best. |
| 06:40.37 | Solet-deb | *shrug* no idea.... i'd suppose you might track down any maintainers |
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| 06:40.43 | openfly | in short... they have unmet dependencies... |
| 06:40.53 | liable | openfly: bts |
| 06:40.56 | simonrvn | ardy: www.alsa-project.org |
| 06:41.01 | Solet-deb | google for the dependancies and do it manually i guess |
| 06:41.04 | openfly | well yes that was the thrust of my being here. |
| 06:41.07 | openfly | well the thing is. |
| 06:41.13 | openfly | the dependencies no longer exsist. |
| 06:41.16 | openfly | in some cases. |
| 06:41.17 | Solet-deb | but it doesnt matter... woody is dead soon anyway |
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| 06:41.23 | simonrvn | !tell lith -about php5 |
| 06:41.31 | openfly | the point is. the apt repository is broken |
| 06:41.31 | Solet-deb | if they ever exested... they are out there some where |
| 06:41.35 | Solet-deb | try archive.debian.org |
| 06:41.40 | Azar | woody is unbreakable unless you bring in packages not ment for woody |
| 06:41.47 | simonrvn | !tell Solet-deb -about php5 |
| 06:41.56 | openfly | azar the apt repository is flawed. |
| 06:42.04 | Solet-deb | openfly: woody dies in 2 days |
| 06:42.07 | Azar | openfly read and learn the apt primer |
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| 06:42.15 | Solet-deb | simonrvn: why needst i know about php5? |
| 06:42.18 | openfly | solet i'll check sarge on laptop |
| 06:42.24 | openfly | but i doubt its any better =/ |
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| 06:42.43 | openfly | azar... openafs packages in apt are erronous and out of date. |
| 06:42.54 | openfly | the repository is therefore flawed. |
| 06:43.00 | Azar | openfly unless you are an expert, and you know what is going on, read this: http://os.newsforge.com/os/04/12/02/1710208.shtml?tid=2&tid=130 |
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| 06:43.05 | openfly | certainly apt itself is fine. |
| 06:43.10 | Azar | oh sorry, I see then |
| 06:43.13 | openfly | however my point stands. |
| 06:43.26 | openfly | blah |
| 06:43.31 | ardy | simonrvn: Thanks, I found it at alsa-project |
| 06:43.36 | Solet-deb | ~sarge-ttl |
| 06:43.37 | Solet | Sarge is expected to be released in: 1day 22hrs 11mins 34secs |
| 06:43.45 | openfly | i'll try to laptop... but i think these packages have their origins in redhat 7.3 |
| 06:43.47 | lith | ahh thx |
| 06:43.52 | Solet-deb | toss 6 months onto that and woody will no longer be supported at all |
| 06:43.56 | openfly | so its quite likely that sarge has the problem as well. |
| 06:43.57 | openfly | =/ |
| 06:44.06 | Phated | aidehua: \ |
| 06:44.09 | simonrvn | more like 12 months |
| 06:44.10 | Azar | Woody still kicks ass and will still kick one more year |
| 06:44.10 | Phated | Whoops. |
| 06:44.13 | Phated | aidehua: Sorry. |
| 06:44.30 | Solet-deb | simonrvn: sry i thought it was 6 :/ |
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| 06:44.38 | openfly | well i do like how woody doesn' |
| 06:44.44 | Solet-deb | simonrvn: why did you have dpkg spam me about php5? |
| 06:44.45 | openfly | t self corrupt its apt db =? |
| 06:44.50 | openfly | unlike sarge =P |
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| 06:45.17 | Azar | openfly I am a newbie and used Woody for 3 years now, with no "corrupt" stuff , the most solid distro ever |
| 06:45.24 | simonrvn | because you were going on about archive.d.o and other stuff when there's already a factoid for it |
| 06:45.33 | openfly | yeah i keep one of testing and stable going all the time. |
| 06:45.40 | openfly | <3s for woody |
| 06:45.42 | openfly | thing is solid. |
| 06:45.43 | Azar | woody endured lots of s**t from a newbie like me and NEVER broke on me |
| 06:45.50 | openfly | hope sarge can live up to it. |
| 06:46.11 | Azar | if you complain about woody, I doubt you will like sarge |
| 06:46.16 | lith | what about php5 for sarge? |
| 06:46.24 | lith | or does it matter? |
| 06:46.40 | openfly | well to be honest... openafs packages are wicked hard to come by |
| 06:46.50 | openfly | i'm not surprised debians are completely borked. |
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| 06:47.11 | Azar | openfly it seems you are one of the "few" to get that openafs or whatever it is |
| 06:47.39 | openfly | well it will be increasing in use shortly i am sure. |
| 06:47.42 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know how to get streaming video to work from music.yahoo.com (launch)? |
| 06:47.44 | Azar | beware of what you ask , if you tell apt-get install "s**t" that is what you might get |
| 06:47.52 | sussudio | !stab TwistedEmotions |
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| 06:48.19 | TwistedEmotions | !bitchslap sussudio |
| 06:48.27 | TwistedEmotions | Anyhow.. |
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| 06:48.29 | sussudio | !tell TwistedEmotions about polls |
| 06:48.32 | sussudio | !tell TwistedEmotions about anyone |
| 06:48.33 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i got the card to do master mode. not regular mode though (= |
| 06:48.35 | sussudio | now stfu |
| 06:48.46 | Azar | openfly you seem a perfect candidate to another distro then :) |
| 06:49.27 | TwistedEmotions | sussudio: Suck my cock ;) Not taking a fucking poll and if you dont like it... jump off a fucking bridge ;) |
| 06:49.34 | sussudio | !troll TwistedEmotions |
| 06:49.59 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Uhhh... shouldnt master mode be harder? |
| 06:50.09 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i guess not |
| 06:50.21 | Solet-deb | for instance if /music is a directory on /dev/hda9 how can i mount it to /home/solet/music? |
| 06:50.26 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: thats new.. |
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| 06:50.54 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Well I mean thats what you wanted to do anyways so what's the problem? |
| 06:50.55 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: its not working now (= |
| 06:51.06 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i want to use it too hahah |
| 06:51.08 | Solet-deb | TwistedEmotions: everything is easier once you're a master... thus master mode is easier :P |
| 06:51.10 | deadcat | not just share it |
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| 06:51.33 | Azar | good night and thanks again, everyone who helped |
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| 06:51.39 | gvandora | I want to use xargs w/ mv... can anyone give some advice? |
| 06:51.49 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb, you give me headache... thought I still love you. |
| 06:51.59 | gvandora | ind -type f -printf '"%p"\n' | xargs chmod 0644 |
| 06:52.02 | Solet-deb | hehe |
| 06:52.08 | gvandora | ind -type f -printf '"%p"\n' | xargs chmod 0644 |
| 06:52.15 | gvandora | woops.... |
| 06:52.15 | simonrvn | um |
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| 06:52.35 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Uhhh.... get another USB card and use that as a normal card... then use the 15$ one for AP ;) |
| 06:52.53 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Or if you want I can custom write a driver for you.. |
| 06:53.02 | gvandora | find -type f -printf '"%p"'\n' | xargs mv ...... |
| 06:53.17 | deadcat | haha |
| 06:53.40 | TwistedEmotions | Has anyone even gotten yahoo launch cast to work? Fucking IE... |
| 06:53.58 | Solet-deb | yahoo? work? since when? |
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| 06:54.37 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb, you are truely not helpful ;) And damn good at being truely not helpful too |
| 06:55.10 | Solet-deb | the great part is i'm only 2 hours in to today... and you're not the first person to tell me that today... :P |
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| 06:55.23 | Solet-deb | !confuse TwistedEmotions |
| 06:55.24 | dpkg | No, what are our badger today, TwistedEmotions? lederhosen of the dictatorship of liechtenstein with extra herring |
| 06:55.53 | TwistedEmotions | !eat Solet-deb |
| 06:56.01 | TwistedEmotions | Hehehe... I win ;) |
| 06:56.07 | Solet-deb | rawr.... |
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| 06:56.26 | TwistedEmotions | Uhhh.. thats *not* how I meant it.. |
| 06:56.33 | Solet-deb | !fuck me |
| 06:56.49 | Lathiat | Hi Guys -- I saw a package once that creates fake packages to satisfy dependencies and and provides: etc but i cant find its name - -anyone know what its called |
| 06:56.56 | Solet-deb | ahhhh i didnt want it that way |
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| 06:57.24 | sussudio | Lathiat: yes, someone probably knows. |
| 06:57.41 | Lathiat | good work sussudio |
| 06:57.51 | Lathiat | your officially todays most useless person of the day |
| 06:57.53 | sussudio | !tell Lathiat about search |
| 06:58.04 | sussudio | Lathiat: foad ubuntu boy. |
| 06:58.16 | Solet-deb | Lathiat: there are 15k packages we cant keep track of all of them |
| 06:58.33 | Lathiat | im fully aware of how to search, ive been searching for a bit but i cant find it under a number of terms, hence im asking because someone may know off-hand wha tit is |
| 06:58.39 | Lathiat | so stop being smart fucks and go play with yourself |
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| 06:58.50 | Solet-deb | ok |
| 06:58.58 | Solet-deb | bbiab... off to go play with myself |
| 06:59.03 | Lathiat | if you cant help me just be quiet and ignore me |
| 06:59.16 | Solet-deb | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:59.21 | Lathiat | thanks Solet-deb |
| 06:59.27 | Solet-deb | fkn space bar :P |
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| 07:01.02 | Solet-deb | accually.... you've been unignored... trolling you sounds like more fun than playing with myself :P |
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| 07:01.56 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: I'd perfer to play with myself... dont know what your talking about. |
| 07:02.27 | poonj | hoever, I can only get output for 2 ch....is there something I'm doing wrong? |
| 07:02.31 | poonj | I'm using a SBLive card with 4 channel output |
| 07:02.33 | Solet-deb | TwistedEmotions: i get that much pleasure from being a nipple jackass (not to be confused with an utter jackass which i can not be as i am not bovine) |
| 07:02.45 | poonj | I'm using the built-in kernel module |
| 07:02.53 | poonj | do I need to download or do something to get 4 channel output? |
| 07:03.17 | Lathiat | poonj: perhaps you need to fiddle with your mixer or user a program that provides 4 channel output |
| 07:03.22 | Solet-deb | poonj: "however" is a really bad way to start a statemen... i feel as iff i missed something |
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| 07:03.35 | poonj | Solet, heh, I know |
| 07:03.37 | TwistedEmotions | poonj: your a idiot... absolute idiot... |
| 07:03.43 | poonj | TwistedEmotions: thanks |
| 07:03.44 | deadcat | HAHAHA |
| 07:03.54 | poonj | TwistedEmotions: I was actually posting the question again |
| 07:03.58 | TwistedEmotions | poonj: thats your only problem in life.. your stupidity. |
| 07:04.14 | TwistedEmotions | poonj: posting same question twice? |
| 07:04.20 | sussudio | helix? |
| 07:04.20 | Solet-deb | TwistedEmotions: i'd imagine he has problems getting laid too :P |
| 07:04.22 | TwistedEmotions | !tell poonj about spam |
| 07:04.22 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you know whos poonj right? (= |
| 07:04.38 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: yeah but he doesnt know who I am ;) |
| 07:04.38 | poonj | wow |
| 07:04.43 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahah. |
| 07:04.46 | poonj | speak for yourselves guys |
| 07:05.05 | Solet-deb | cause that would be really funny |
| 07:05.18 | poonj | you guys are pretty quick to speak for others..usually that means the individual is having that problem |
| 07:05.20 | Solet-deb | or even funnier... greycat's wife... oh that would be great |
| 07:05.27 | helix | sussudio: yes? |
| 07:05.49 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you thinks he knows who I am yet? |
| 07:05.49 | poonj | TwistedEmotions: thanks |
| 07:05.51 | sussudio | helix: TwistedEmotions has been trolling for at least several weeks now and there doesn't seem to be an end in sight to it. |
| 07:06.01 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i doubt it (= |
| 07:06.06 | poonj | ash? |
| 07:06.06 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: he knows me though. |
| 07:06.10 | TwistedEmotions | poonj: ;) |
| 07:06.13 | deadcat | HAHAHAHAH |
| 07:06.16 | poonj | sounds about right |
| 07:06.27 | TwistedEmotions | poonj: I love you... I was just kidding |
| 07:06.28 | Solet-deb | TwistedEmotions: you're someone? like... important? what do you mean "knows who you are"? |
| 07:06.28 | deadcat | (= |
| 07:06.32 | helix | "your a idiot" |
| 07:06.35 | helix | he's not very bright |
| 07:06.41 | helix | so anyway, TwistedEmotions stop trolling |
| 07:06.55 | TwistedEmotions | helix: not trolling... sussudio is a jackass. |
| 07:07.05 | deadcat | !ops |
| 07:07.05 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 07:07.09 | TwistedEmotions | helix: im here everyday... no one else complained. |
| 07:07.11 | helix | deadcat: hi, I'm an op |
| 07:07.20 | helix | TwistedEmotions: ok, well I'll be watching you anyway |
| 07:07.25 | deadcat | helix: i know. i just want to list the ops to TwistedEmotions (=... |
| 07:07.33 | TwistedEmotions | helix: ;) |
| 07:07.37 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I know. |
| 07:07.49 | poonj | anyhow..if anyone know how to enable the other 2-channels on the snd-card |
| 07:07.50 | sussudio | debian.log.20050516:[07:55] <Guerin> TwistedEmotions: because you have two modes : whining and trolling. |
| 07:07.59 | sussudio | debian.log.20050519:[09:08] <jetdotnet> ~troll Twisted_Emotions |
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| 07:08.25 | deadcat | aint sussudio op too? |
| 07:08.25 | sussudio | and so forth. |
| 07:08.25 | sussudio | deadcat: no, that would work out bad for users. |
| 07:08.25 | liable | poonj: isnt there like a second screen in alsamixer for it? alsa.org |
| 07:08.25 | deadcat | (= |
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| 07:08.35 | deadcat | poonj: you have the 5.1 card right? |
| 07:08.38 | TwistedEmotions | sussudio: wow.. you have no fucking life... ask Guerin or jetdotnet if they have a problem with me ;) |
| 07:09.02 | poonj | yeah |
| 07:09.17 | deadcat | poonj: the card works for me. |
| 07:09.32 | poonj | your module built from the kernel directly? |
| 07:09.34 | poonj | or alsa? |
| 07:09.36 | deadcat | ya |
| 07:09.45 | poonj | ummm..thats weird...I wonder if its my card |
| 07:09.50 | deadcat | modues not in kernel |
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| 07:09.58 | poonj | built from the source |
| 07:10.08 | deadcat | ya |
| 07:10.12 | poonj | not downloaded from the alsa package |
| 07:10.13 | Solet-deb | yet again, anyone around yet that knows how to mount a particular directory from a partition instead of the whole partition? |
| 07:10.18 | poonj | umm, okay |
| 07:10.35 | deadcat | poonj: apt-get the util. thats about it |
| 07:10.42 | poonj | okay |
| 07:10.44 | poonj | let me do that |
| 07:10.53 | deadcat | poonj: 2.6 right? |
| 07:11.50 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i want a better case for the usb wireless card. this sucks. |
| 07:11.53 | poonj | yeah |
| 07:11.54 | deadcat | cheap ass plastic |
| 07:12.07 | deadcat | poonj: must be the card dude. mine is blasting like a bitch right now |
| 07:12.09 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: If I want to read this... lg-issue113 - Issue 113 of the Linux Gazette. Install and ? |
| 07:12.23 | poonj | yeah |
| 07:12.26 | poonj | it must be the card |
| 07:12.34 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: 15$ man... how much were you expecting out of the POS? |
| 07:12.56 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i expect excellent quality... |
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| 07:13.42 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you kids... optimistic about life... cant wait till your depression sets in... |
| 07:13.45 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: heheheh |
| 07:13.50 | deadcat | hahah |
| 07:14.22 | llama32 | im looking for either small OS projects that lack a GUI, or old-ish GUI OSs that werent popular but were interesting (as in not just a clone of mac/win/X) |
| 07:14.27 | llama32 | any suggestions? |
| 07:14.41 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: did you get it working in normal mode? |
| 07:14.42 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: damn taht guy is asking $100 for that stupid server (cobalt)... i told him $75 last time. |
| 07:14.59 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: did he give you a counter offer or no? |
| 07:15.00 | Solet-deb | llama32: yeah join the gnome maintainence team |
| 07:15.12 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: nah. its not even working on master now. i am gonna sleep the laptop and wake itup (= maybe its mad ad me (= |
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| 07:15.32 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. counter is $100.. he started with $100. i say $75, he say $100 now |
| 07:15.35 | Solet-deb | oh deadcat guess what i bought earlier tonight? |
| 07:15.43 | deadcat | Solet-deb: what? |
| 07:15.46 | deadcat | cheese? |
| 07:15.48 | llama32 | Solet-deb: no thanks |
| 07:15.50 | Solet-deb | nope |
| 07:15.58 | deadcat | Solet-deb: macmini? |
| 07:16.07 | Solet-deb | llama32: you'll be my personal hero if you do |
| 07:16.13 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Hmm... he sucks as bargaining... or he's very good at it... |
| 07:16.21 | Solet-deb | deadcat: a boxed debian 1.0... ya know the fuck up release |
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| 07:16.43 | Solet-deb | still in its celophane |
| 07:16.47 | deadcat | Solet-deb: HAHAH. collector;s item (= |
| 07:16.59 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i think hes messing wit me |
| 07:17.12 | poonj | deadcat, TwistedEmotions I'm out |
| 07:17.17 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I think hes just cheap.. |
| 07:17.19 | deadcat | poonj: later |
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| 07:17.25 | TwistedEmotions | poonj: later man.. good luck |
| 07:17.29 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: but i am cheaper (=. |
| 07:17.29 | Solet-deb | ok fine poonj dont say bye to me..... stupid cunt |
| 07:17.38 | deadcat | Solet-deb: hahah. |
| 07:17.44 | llama32 | Solet-deb: you have issues if someone joining the gnome maintenence team would become your hero... |
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| 07:18.06 | TwistedEmotions | he didnt even wait for my goodbye either... Solet-deb me and you boycott him next time he shows up. |
| 07:18.07 | Solet-deb | llama32 i love gnome... but it has some issues |
| 07:18.14 | deadcat | simonrvn: we know jonathan |
| 07:18.23 | Solet-deb | or just !lart the fuck out of him :P |
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| 07:18.51 | TwistedEmotions | ;) Whats with all the anger in this room? |
| 07:18.57 | Solet-deb | hard drive magnets are fun as fuck to play with.... i should break hard drives more often |
| 07:19.00 | TwistedEmotions | !calm everyone. |
| 07:19.04 | TwistedEmotions | damn... |
| 07:19.13 | Solet-deb | !fuck everyone |
| 07:19.16 | simonrvn | anger? what expressing yourslef is angry? |
| 07:19.17 | TwistedEmotions | even the bot is too stressed to work. |
| 07:19.32 | llama32 | Solet-deb: XFCE4 + Rox kicks far more rear than Gnome, but i agree - gnome is good (so is KDE tho) |
| 07:19.49 | Solet-deb | i hate kde... its so damned fake |
| 07:20.03 | Solet-deb | single click to open files.... ewww |
| 07:20.03 | TwistedEmotions | llama32: I tohught that they stop making rox? |
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| 07:20.07 | roadgo | i so |
| 07:20.24 | simonrvn | Solet-deb: um, that's editable... |
| 07:20.38 | Solet-deb | simonrvn: but that takes time... |
| 07:20.42 | TwistedEmotions | llama32: sorry thinking of wrong thing... |
| 07:20.46 | Solet-deb | gnome was cute the way it was installed |
| 07:20.51 | simonrvn | 10 minutes |
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| 07:21.12 | Solet-deb | plus gnome says gnome... and gnomes are cool as shit |
| 07:21.30 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i want to put the sub card into one of those mini cruizer usb flash drives. those are sturdy. |
| 07:21.49 | simonrvn | "oooh, i'll die if it takes me more than 30 seconds to conf something". sheesh, i wonder what you people are going to say when you get old and wrinkly and takes you ~1 min to cross the street |
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| 07:22.19 | Solet-deb | simonrvn: i dont plan to live that long |
| 07:22.29 | simonrvn | attention span of carrots, i tell ya |
| 07:22.39 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: overkill? Your going to spend like 4 hours working on a 15$ card... |
| 07:22.40 | Solet-deb | what? |
| 07:22.41 | Solet-deb | :P |
| 07:22.54 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: (= |
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| 07:23.03 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: it would worth it if its $9 |
| 07:23.04 | Solet-deb | TwistedEmotions: i spent 16 hours working on a free machine once :P |
| 07:23.23 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: your "special" |
| 07:23.33 | Solet-deb | twisted it was my first deb install |
| 07:23.35 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i still think this card is too $$. |
| 07:23.54 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: there we go... glad you turned cynical ;) |
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| 07:24.00 | Solet-deb | and it was on a p1 200mhz 32mbram 4.3gig hd no eth so cd install... |
| 07:24.26 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: that doesnt count.. |
| 07:24.26 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: what did you install all the packages with? dialup? |
| 07:24.39 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I want http://www.codeweavers.com/products/ |
| 07:24.39 | Solet-deb | re read the last thing i said |
| 07:24.51 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: torrent (= |
| 07:24.51 | Solet-deb | the last 2 words even |
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| 07:25.15 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: Ahhh... read it as eth so net cd install... |
| 07:25.31 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: added words where I wanted.. |
| 07:25.50 | Solet-deb | haha you'll make a great gov't official some day |
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| 07:26.00 | TwistedEmotions | hahahah |
| 07:26.34 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you can download a trial version from their website... cant I just... |
| 07:26.53 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: no clue. i used to have winex. |
| 07:27.08 | Solet-deb | whats the trigger to display stats on the various releases? |
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| 07:27.18 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: search torrent. i bet they have it there. |
| 07:27.19 | Solet-deb | is it rstats |
| 07:27.28 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: thats how i got limewire. |
| 07:27.31 | damripp | ok , im root and i wanna update apt-get packages list. what arguement do i run? |
| 07:27.44 | Solet-deb | apt-get update |
| 07:27.46 | Solet-deb | :P |
| 07:28.05 | simonrvn | man apt-get |
| 07:28.12 | damripp | im on dialup. will it take awhile? |
| 07:28.17 | Solet-deb | HOLY CRAP did everyone see that? i answered a question... |
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| 07:28.22 | simonrvn | depends |
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| 07:28.27 | Solet-deb | damripp: depends on how big the update is |
| 07:28.48 | reka | damripp: ~1/2mins |
| 07:28.51 | Solet-deb | if you did it yesterday no... if you did it 7 years ago.... call anyone you plan on talking to for the next week righ now |
| 07:28.59 | K-sPecial | anyone know if there is a .deb for the xineplugin.so mozilla module |
| 07:29.08 | simonrvn | oh, the update shouldn't take too long |
| 07:29.09 | TwistedEmotions | damripp: man apt... basic commands are apt-cache search <package> - searches for packages... apt-get update - updates packages available... apt-get install/remove <package> - installs/removes a package.. |
| 07:29.16 | TwistedEmotions | DAMN |
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| 07:29.25 | TwistedEmotions | they leave right before I hit enter |
| 07:29.37 | Solet-deb | TwistedEmotions: oh fuck you..... always trying to one up me |
| 07:29.39 | Phated | K-sPecial: You can probably just copy the .so file to your plugins dir. |
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| 07:30.01 | K-sPecial | Phated: nod, see i'm trying to find the .so file, not how to install it. |
| 07:30.20 | Phated | K-sPecial: Oh, right. Google should turn up something, perhaps? |
| 07:30.22 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: I'm a future politician... take someone elses work... add something to it and claim that I am a genius. |
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| 07:30.29 | K-sPecial | Phated: no, not realy, that's why i'm here. |
| 07:30.43 | Phated | K-sPecial: Ah. |
| 07:30.48 | Solet-deb | oh fuck off... |
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| 07:31.10 | Solet-deb | whats the release stats trigger oh great bastard of democracy? |
| 07:31.37 | TwistedEmotions | Heh? |
| 07:31.43 | TwistedEmotions | Missed the joke. |
| 07:32.20 | K-sPecial | oh I finaly got it, HAHAHA |
| 07:32.24 | Phated | K-sPecial: Am I right in thinking that you want media files clicked on in mozilla to open in xine? |
| 07:32.34 | Solet-deb | TwistedEmotions: check mirror.yourself.com |
| 07:32.35 | Phated | Eh, never mind then. :) |
| 07:32.41 | TwistedEmotions | Damn... have to buy a 40$ software to get launchcast working.. |
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| 07:32.56 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: then I did get it.. not appreciated. |
| 07:33.32 | Solet-deb | polititions + psychotic nix users = bastards of democracy |
| 07:34.09 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: true... so that's what its come down to huh? |
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| 07:34.22 | Solet-deb | what? |
| 07:34.36 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: dumb(me)+dumber(you)= good movie.. |
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| 07:34.50 | TwistedEmotions | Im going to shutup now. |
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| 07:35.13 | Solet-deb | dude lighten the fuck up.....i'm just fuckin around jesus |
| 07:35.23 | TwistedEmotions | ;) I know... me 2 |
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| 07:36.51 | Solet-deb | damnit... see... one upping me.... you play pissed off longer than i can play jackass just to one up me.... |
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| 07:37.07 | KerPlunk | !start a distro war |
| 07:37.08 | dpkg | Rock 0wnz! |
| 07:37.22 | sanxiyn | What is Rock? |
| 07:37.39 | Alex | Dunno, but it 0wnz. |
| 07:37.45 | Phated | A distro, probably. |
| 07:37.47 | Phated | !rock |
| 07:37.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, rock is dead! |
| 07:37.57 | Phated | Right, a dead distro that 0wnz. |
| 07:37.57 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: dont blame your insecurities on me... Ill make you a deal... ill stop being pissed off if you can figure out http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/2/2004/04/2/147715 for me. |
| 07:37.58 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
| 07:38.03 | sanxiyn | Phated: heh |
| 07:38.08 | Phated | :) |
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| 07:38.21 | sanxiyn | Perhaps this: http://www.rocklinux.org/ |
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| 07:38.27 | Phated | Perhaps. |
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| 07:38.55 | initech | "rock" is bad Michael bay movie |
| 07:39.01 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know what the "Crossover Plug-in" is and/or if it really relates to Macromedia Flash? |
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| 07:39.13 | TwistedEmotions | *related |
| 07:39.20 | Solet-deb | why in the name of jesus would you put ie on a nix machine..... |
| 07:39.43 | initech | TwistedEmotions: crossover is a wine based windoze thing, nothing to do with flash, though I assume you could run flash from it |
| 07:40.29 | TwistedEmotions | initech: Err.. kk. |
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| 07:41.13 | initech | TwistedEmotions: there's a perfectly working flash plug in for linux, no need for crossover |
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| 07:41.36 | simonrvn | it 0wned itself into oblivion |
| 07:41.50 | TwistedEmotions | initech: no I am trying to get launchcast working.. |
| 07:41.57 | sanxiyn | initech: Is there Quicktime plugin for Mozilla on Linux? |
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| 07:42.08 | Phated | sanxiyn: Try mozilla-mplayer? |
| 07:42.18 | sanxiyn | Phated: Maybe that's a good idea... |
| 07:42.22 | initech | sanxiyn: the mplayer plugin works sometimes :) |
| 07:42.42 | Phated | sanxiyn: It plays most stuff. And thanks to .deb magic, no fiddling required! ;) |
| 07:42.42 | TwistedEmotions | ;( Not on launchcast... |
| 07:42.58 | sanxiyn | I think CodeWeavers once developed something let you use Explorer plugin from Windows that way. |
| 07:43.50 | ricochet | anyone around to help me with my sound setup? Onboard (Intel board) AD1985 6 channel with optical digital out. The normal speaker out works, but the optical out doesnt seem to be working. I played with alsamixergui, still no sound. any ideas? |
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| 07:44.47 | sanxiyn | Hm, it seems to be this: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5463 |
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| 07:45.10 | sanxiyn | A thing of past, I guess. |
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| 07:46.20 | Solet-deb | argh... whats the trigger to see a release's stats? |
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| 07:46.30 | Phated | !dstats sarge |
| 07:46.38 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on sarge... 15680 packages, 1471 maintainers, 28321 MB installed size, 8915 MB compressed size. |
| 07:46.46 | Solet-deb | thank you |
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| 07:47.08 | liable | sanxiyn: there is a quicktime plugin, but fucked if I remember, and I cant check now, doesnt sound like anything to do with movie stuff though |
| 07:47.12 | swim | hey, i just installed gnome, and then xserver-xfree86, but wheres startx ? |
| 07:47.18 | Solet-deb | umm... |
| 07:47.21 | Solet-deb | !dstats buzz |
| 07:47.37 | Solet-deb | why does he break when i do that |
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| 07:48.15 | Phated | Proably because buzz is too long ago for anyone to really care how big it is? :) |
| 07:48.32 | sanxiyn | swim: Eh, you install x-window-system, not xserver-xfree86. |
| 07:48.44 | sanxiyn | (Installing xserver alone won't work.) |
| 07:49.00 | sanxiyn | !dstats woody |
| 07:49.03 | Phated | Metapackages are there to help! :) |
| 07:49.05 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on woody... 8969 packages, 986 maintainers, 13426 MB installed size, 4303 MB compressed size. |
| 07:49.05 | swim | oh ive not installed x on debian before thx |
| 07:49.27 | sanxiyn | (startx is in xbase-clients, FWIW.) |
| 07:49.48 | Phated | (But just install x-window-system.) |
| 07:50.01 | swim | yup doing it |
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| 07:51.02 | sanxiyn | I want to say that you can choose "Desktop" task while installing, but well, I don't think it's what people want. |
| 07:51.20 | Phated | Feh, the Desktop task installs far more than just an X server. |
| 07:51.25 | sanxiyn | (Instead of saying "apt-get install gnome-core x-window-system, that is.) |
| 07:51.45 | Phated | (Some people will probably want apt-get install kdebase x-window-system.) |
| 07:52.04 | swim | or many other choices |
| 07:52.11 | Phated | Preciely. |
| 07:52.13 | Phated | +s |
| 07:53.28 | swim | ah nowonder apt-get install gnome was friggen 650mb |
| 07:53.37 | sanxiyn | swim: Yeah, you want gnome-core, not gnome. |
| 07:53.55 | Phated | Well, it installs something like 20 games, four productivity apps, a file manager, a browser, the panel, etc, etc. |
| 07:53.59 | swim | i was pretty surprised with 650mb ! |
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| 07:57.57 | hackers | hmm |
| 07:58.31 | hackers | i keep getting some in out error when burning dvds in k3b... any clue what it could be? im trying another burn to see if it does the same thing for a fourth time |
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| 08:01.10 | Solet-deb | omfg i found a site with buzz images |
| 08:01.19 | Solet-deb | fuckin floppy .bins |
| 08:01.45 | TwistedEmotions | hackers: bad cds/dvds... bad drive... any driver... anything... need more info... give me the error or the problem with the DVD's. |
| 08:01.48 | initech | you're installing buzz?!? |
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| 08:02.36 | TwistedEmotions | *bad driver |
| 08:02.44 | Solet-deb | initech... i am going to put it on a machine thats just taking up floor space atm |
| 08:02.49 | Solet-deb | i cant decide what to do with it yet |
| 08:02.56 | llama32 | wheres a good place to find out how to do loopback devices? is it relatively easy (one-line mount command?)? |
| 08:02.57 | Solet-deb | i just wanna see buzz... |
| 08:03.04 | initech | Solet-deb: i guess it's fine for some old ass machine |
| 08:03.25 | Solet-deb | nah its an a64, is that bad? |
| 08:03.31 | TwistedEmotions | I dont understand... whats all the BUZZ about? |
| 08:03.35 | Solet-deb | jk its an old ass p1 |
| 08:03.50 | initech | but really, for something hopelessly old (like a pentium 200 or less), I'd probably install slack on it |
| 08:03.58 | Solet-deb | !twistedemotions-- bad pun |
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| 08:04.15 | sanxiyn | TwistedEmotions: buzz is a very old Debian release. |
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| 08:04.23 | Solet-deb | initech i've accually had woody on it before..... |
| 08:04.24 | initech | i think buzz was the first |
| 08:04.28 | Solet-deb | yeah |
| 08:04.32 | kensuke | w |
| 08:04.35 | sepski | !releases |
| 08:04.35 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-08-28), Potato(2.2; 2001-04-17[?]), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19). The next release will be Sarge. You can call Sarge+1 "Etch". See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
| 08:04.38 | Solet-deb | well there was a fuckup release before that but it shouldnt have happened |
| 08:04.42 | TwistedEmotions | sanxiyn: thought I *didnt* know that... it was a joke ;) |
| 08:04.56 | initech | i didn't start debian until the slink release |
| 08:05.24 | initech | does buzz even have apt? |
| 08:05.24 | TwistedEmotions | I didnt start till sarge... |
| 08:05.31 | sanxiyn | initech: I don't think so. |
| 08:05.34 | hackers | write failed input output error |
| 08:05.38 | hackers | thats all it says TwistedEmotions |
| 08:05.44 | jaalto | solet-deb: There is small Debian at http://debian.cante.net/stem |
| 08:06.24 | hackers | then at the same time nautilus crashes again |
| 08:06.27 | hackers | i think |
| 08:06.31 | hackers | my linux is fuxxored |
| 08:06.31 | sanxiyn | Debian 2.1 Slink (March 9th, 1999): Named for the slinky-dog in the movie. Two more architectures were added, Alpha and SPARC. With Wichert Akkerman as Project Leader, this release consisted of about 2250 packages and required 2 CDs in the official set. The key technical innovation was the introduction of apt, a new package management interface. -- A Brief History of Debian |
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| 08:06.48 | sanxiyn | initech: It seems Slink was the first to have APT. |
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| 08:06.57 | Phated | Heh, where's the Brief History? |
| 08:06.57 | TwistedEmotions | hackers: that doesnt help much... uhhh.. still could be back quality dvd's and/or bad quality drive... probably not driver if it's a I/O error.. |
| 08:07.04 | hackers | well |
| 08:07.08 | Solet-deb | jaalto: why'd you gimme that link? |
| 08:07.08 | hackers | i know the dvds are shit |
| 08:07.13 | hackers | i bought them at frys |
| 08:07.20 | sanxiyn | Phated: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ |
| 08:07.25 | Phated | sanxiyn: Thanks. |
| 08:07.25 | hackers | i just dont wanna toss the whole stack of the dam things |
| 08:07.31 | hackers | still got 30 in the stack |
| 08:07.43 | abrocadabro | hackers: what kernel are you running? |
| 08:07.45 | Phated | hackers: Make a dud-DVD discoball! |
| 08:07.50 | jaalto | solet-deb: I juats saw your message where you wondered what you'd do with an old machine |
| 08:08.00 | hackers | oi |
| 08:08.09 | hackers | i forgot the kernal |
| 08:08.11 | Solet-deb | i'm not wondering.... i want to put buzz on it |
| 08:08.13 | john | uname -r |
| 08:08.14 | hackers | what was the command to see again |
| 08:08.14 | Solet-deb | cause i wanna see buzz |
| 08:08.23 | john | hackers: uname -r |
| 08:08.39 | initech | i just put some old slackware on them. it's pretty useful and very fast. |
| 08:08.43 | hackers | 2.6.10-1-k7 |
| 08:08.48 | TwistedEmotions | hackers: I bought the "GQ - Good Quality" DVD's from frys... theyre fucking horrible quality and they just gave me error after error after error.. |
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| 08:08.54 | hackers | yeah |
| 08:08.56 | initech | i still have slack 3.6 cd's :) |
| 08:08.58 | hackers | same ones TwistedEmotions |
| 08:09.02 | hackers | same fucking ones |
| 08:09.02 | abrocadabro | hackers: try to burn it under root see what happens |
| 08:09.05 | Solet-deb | initech: i dont need the machine for anything... and i wanna see buzz :/ |
| 08:09.15 | hackers | i suppose i should try to use the ones i got from newegg |
| 08:09.19 | initech | Solet-deb: yeah, kinda curious myself |
| 08:09.20 | TwistedEmotions | hackers: the only way you can burn those DVD's is with a lighter.. |
| 08:09.22 | hackers | see if i get the same error |
| 08:09.28 | hackers | yeah huh TwistedEmotions |
| 08:09.44 | hackers | i think i might steal something from frys to even out the money they ripped me out of |
| 08:09.57 | TwistedEmotions | Has anyone been able to use pokerstars on linux yet? |
| 08:10.00 | Phated | Feh. Disco balls are good investments. |
| 08:10.12 | Solet-deb | well... if there is any sort of remote desktop package on it (i have doubts) i will load it up and let anyone who wants to play have a go at it :P |
| 08:10.17 | TwistedEmotions | hackers: steal me a laptop ill pay you. |
| 08:10.20 | hackers | abrocadabro, how do i go to root from terminal so i can run it that way |
| 08:10.29 | hackers | if i was stealing something it would be for me |
| 08:10.30 | hackers | :D |
| 08:10.41 | abrocadabro | hacker: sudo k3b |
| 08:10.57 | hackers | oh ok |
| 08:11.05 | hackers | thought you meant to log in as root or something |
| 08:11.06 | hackers | well |
| 08:11.08 | hackers | here goes nothing |
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| 08:11.13 | Phated | hackers: Learn about su, too. |
| 08:11.15 | TwistedEmotions | hackers: steal me a fine looking female employee I'll fuck her and we both get free shit ;) |
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| 08:11.52 | abrocadabro | hacker: open up a terminal and sudo k3b |
| 08:12.33 | Solet-deb | http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-linux/distributions/debian/1.1/i386/buzz/ |
| 08:12.33 | TwistedEmotions | abrocadabro: you think sudo is going to find IO errors with k3b? |
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| 08:13.13 | TwistedEmotions | Solet-deb: jesus... huge install... like 15 megs. |
| 08:13.28 | Solet-deb | huh? |
| 08:13.32 | abrocadabro | TwistedEmotions: I vaguely remember 2.6.10 kernel has a bug with cd burn, you need to burn it under root |
| 08:13.35 | Solet-deb | where'd you find the install at? |
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| 08:13.47 | abrocadabro | s/burn/burning |
| 08:14.00 | TwistedEmotions | abrocadabro: ohh.. didnt know ;) |
| 08:14.01 | hackers | Unable to find growisofs executable |
| 08:14.01 | hackers | K3b uses growisofs to actually write dvds. Without growisofs you won't be able to write dvds. Make sure to install at least version 5.10. |
| 08:14.01 | hackers | Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package. |
| 08:14.11 | hackers | okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk what do i do to get that thing in |
| 08:14.17 | sanxiyn | Heh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Debianaptget.jpg |
| 08:14.32 | Phated | hackers: Uh, do that it says and install the package? |
| 08:14.44 | Phated | Feh, what* it says. |
| 08:14.54 | Solet-deb | !confuse hackers |
| 08:14.56 | dpkg | No, them was their badger yesterday, hackers? wellies of the monarchy of tibet with extra anchovies |
| 08:15.16 | sepski | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-leaders.en.html needs updating |
| 08:15.17 | sanxiyn | The monarchy of tibet with extra anchovies! |
| 08:15.17 | llama32 | rofl |
| 08:15.42 | hackers | no package called growisofs |
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| 08:15.58 | Phated | hackers: FFS, it SAYS to install dvd+rw-tools. |
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| 08:16.20 | cahoot | shouldn't it be FSF? |
| 08:16.21 | sanxiyn | Tibet is inland, perhaps there are anchovies in the lake? |
| 08:16.42 | hackers | and that is already the newest version phated |
| 08:16.48 | d03boy | i'm trying to install Cinellera from source... not having a bit of luck though. Has anyone tried this? |
| 08:16.50 | Phated | Aren't anchovies salwater fish? |
| 08:17.01 | d03boy | there isnt an apt get repository thingy for it is there? |
| 08:17.07 | sanxiyn | !confuse me again |
| 08:17.08 | dpkg | Yes, those is our mushroom yesterday, me again? lederhosen of the monarchy of tibet with extra cream |
| 08:17.15 | hackers | yes phated |
| 08:17.15 | hackers | taste like crap too |
| 08:17.23 | sepski | it sayes !confuse. its not meant to make sense :P |
| 08:17.28 | Phated | Depends. If you put them on pizza, yes. |
| 08:17.38 | sanxiyn | I like anchovies. |
| 08:17.42 | llama32 | ROFL |
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| 08:18.39 | sanxiyn | !confuse |
| 08:18.42 | initech | anchovies on pizza is gross |
| 08:18.47 | Phated | Fuck yes. |
| 08:18.56 | hackers | so yeah, package is IN and newest version and it cant find it i guess |
| 08:19.07 | initech | anchovies are meant to be melted/mixed up in things |
| 08:19.20 | Phated | Ehm, no. Fry them. |
| 08:19.25 | d03boy | they're meant to be used as bait |
| 08:19.31 | popey | ops, semiha^ is a spamming bot, can someone remove please? |
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| 08:19.41 | Phated | !ops semiha^ spamming |
| 08:19.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: semiha^ spamming |
| 08:19.44 | d03boy | now what the heck do I do when I try installing Cinerella from source and I get all sorts of errors? |
| 08:19.45 | hackers | i get wierd errors like this: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-poscomponmyend" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. |
| 08:19.45 | hackers | Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root" |
| 08:20.38 | sanxiyn | !confuse o muse, the anger of Achilles son of Peleus |
| 08:20.40 | dpkg | Yes, who was their badger today, o muse, the anger of Achilles son of Peleus? pants of the republic of belarus with extra crabpaste |
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| 08:20.50 | Fleck | semiha^ spamer - BAN him |
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| 08:21.23 | ardy | huh I'm not a spammer |
| 08:21.24 | initech | d03boy: cinelerra is not known for actually "working" |
| 08:21.47 | initech | d03boy: surprised it compiled actually |
| 08:21.55 | Fleck | [11:19:36] <semiha^> Photo http://busecik.aLLhyper.com/photo.jpg << priv |
| 08:22.02 | d03boy | hmm |
| 08:22.05 | sepski | !ops semiha^ spambot |
| 08:22.06 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: semiha^ spambot |
| 08:22.06 | d03boy | damnit |
| 08:22.10 | d03boy | i need a video editor |
| 08:22.17 | hackers | ok how do i find where a package is installed to? k3d just cant find it it seems |
| 08:22.25 | initech | d03boy: yeah, it sucks, since it looks very promising |
| 08:22.35 | d03boy | initech, know of any others that actually work? |
| 08:22.40 | sanxiyn | kino? |
| 08:22.40 | Solet-deb | !info tob |
| 08:22.42 | initech | d03boy: no, sorry |
| 08:22.47 | dpkg | tob: (Small yet powerful program for tape oriented backups), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.26.cvs.20040226-5 (sid), Packaged size: 93 kB, Installed size: 260 kB |
| 08:23.08 | Solet-deb | lol tob is the ONLY admin package in buzz |
| 08:23.13 | ardy | I have an Audigy 2 value and ALSA recognises it but the sound in kde is non-existant.. the asla mixer says its all the way up? |
| 08:23.23 | sanxiyn | !info kino |
| 08:23.27 | dpkg | kino: (Non-linear editor for Digital Video data), section graphics, is extra. Version: 0.75-7 (sid), Packaged size: 1472 kB, Installed size: 4644 kB |
| 08:23.46 | simonrvn | ardy: turn off the arts daemon. you don't need it for alsa |
| 08:23.56 | d03boy | hmm.. i'll try that |
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| 08:24.28 | initech | d03boy: video editing is very primitive at this point for free software |
| 08:24.44 | d03boy | ya I suppose |
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| 08:24.59 | ardy | simonrvn: I just did and still now sound |
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| 08:25.32 | ardy | simonrvn:sorry still no sound... |
| 08:25.52 | initech | ardy: in the kcontrol applet, what is your sound system set to? |
| 08:25.56 | hackers | hmm |
| 08:26.01 | sanxiyn | Audacity is great for sound editing though. |
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| 08:26.13 | Phated | Audacity is cool. |
| 08:26.16 | d03boy | sanxiyn, for music? |
| 08:26.19 | initech | ardy: i use alsa and "autodetect" works for me |
| 08:26.25 | hackers | so i look in /usr/bin and i dont see dvd+rw-tools wtf is up my comp thinks its in dammit |
| 08:26.30 | d03boy | or for anything |
| 08:26.34 | hackers | this thing is so fuxxored somewhere |
| 08:26.37 | sanxiyn | d03boy: Any sound. |
| 08:26.48 | d03boy | cool, i'll get that while im at it |
| 08:26.56 | sanxiyn | (cut, copy, paste, mix sounds, change speed, pitch, etc.) |
| 08:27.06 | sanxiyn | ogg, mp3, wav, etc. |
| 08:27.08 | Phated | Exports into a number of different formats, too. |
| 08:27.13 | d03boy | excellent |
| 08:27.13 | ardy | initech: well I just turned it off but I just turned it on with autodetect and no sound.. |
| 08:27.33 | initech | ardy: does your sound work in the console? |
| 08:27.58 | initech | ardy: as in with splay / mpg321 or whatever? |
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| 08:28.07 | sinope | hihi... |
| 08:28.13 | ardy | initech: actually I hear sound but its very faint |
| 08:28.16 | sinope | my slackware install seems to have broken :( |
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| 08:28.26 | Phated | sinope: Erm, WTF. #slackware. |
| 08:28.26 | sinope | and i am considering debian |
| 08:28.36 | Phated | Ah, better. Apologies. |
| 08:28.41 | sinope | Phated: no harm. |
| 08:28.59 | sinope | i am just wondering what the deal is with stable/testing/unstable |
| 08:28.59 | cahoot | triggerhappy? |
| 08:29.04 | Phated | Of course. |
| 08:29.23 | sinope | i'm something of a power user... but i hate things fighting each other... |
| 08:29.29 | sinope | i was thinking testing? |
| 08:29.43 | sinope | what would y'all suggest |
| 08:29.53 | initech | sinope: sarge will go stable in perhaps a week ... I'd reccomend that |
| 08:30.03 | Fleck | how to remove ipv6 module from kernel, rmmod says that ipv6 module is busy, how to know who is using it etc... ? |
| 08:30.08 | sanxiyn | If you want cutting edge stuffs, use unstable; |
| 08:30.09 | sanxiyn | ;;; |
| 08:30.10 | sinope | initech: oh! i see... |
| 08:30.11 | Phated | sinope: Stable is the current release, testing is in line to become the next stable, unstable is constantly changing. Testing is a good choice for a desktop user. You might want to wait until sarge releases, and then get etch. though. |
| 08:30.38 | sanxiyn | Sarge will release at most in a week... |
| 08:30.44 | sinope | hmm. but when sarge replaces stable (woody?) nothing will really change... right9$? |
| 08:30.45 | llama32 | how do i let a normal user use loopback? it says "only root can do that", and i chmodded /dev/loop* so all users have r/w to them... |
| 08:31.01 | llama32 | mounting it, that is... |
| 08:31.11 | Phated | sinope: For one, sarge will no longer get new packages. Go with etch, when sarge comes out. etch is the new testing. |
| 08:31.11 | sinope | llama32: /etc/fstab can do it |
| 08:31.12 | ardy | initech: Its really faint from the console |
| 08:31.26 | sinope | Phated: 'etch'.... humm |
| 08:31.28 | initech | sinope: it depends on whether your sources.list points to 'testing' or 'sarge' |
| 08:31.33 | llama32 | thanks sinope |
| 08:31.45 | sinope | Phated: but can't i just download 'testing' packages for my 'stable' install ? |
| 08:31.51 | initech | ardy: sounds like a mixer problem |
| 08:31.52 | sinope | initech: ah. |
| 08:31.58 | sinope | initech: so yes. |
| 08:31.59 | Phated | sinope: It would be wiser not to. You can always use backports. |
| 08:32.22 | sinope | Phated: what's the problem there, though? slackpacks aren't version specific.... |
| 08:32.30 | sanxiyn | What will happen to Debian release cycle post-Sarge |
| 08:32.34 | Phated | Oh, someone ELSE explain this to him... :| |
| 08:32.41 | sinope | :( |
| 08:32.43 | cahoot | ardy: no volume controls ont the speakers (turned down)? |
| 08:32.53 | initech | sinope: warning - testing and unstable are fairly high maintenance |
| 08:33.04 | Phated | Testing is decent, though. |
| 08:33.07 | initech | sinope: but perfectly usable |
| 08:33.07 | ardy | cahoot: no the the volume is all the way ip on both the speakers and the kmix |
| 08:33.11 | scarynetworkguy | sinope: Because it will pull depends automagially depending on exactlly what it does or does not do this may result in braeakage. |
| 08:33.15 | sanxiyn | Phated: Eh, it is, recently. Not always. |
| 08:33.19 | sinope | initech: meaning.... "apt-get --some-command" and i'm all updated? |
| 08:33.35 | Phated | sanxiyn: Hardly my fault. :) BEsides, I'm using sid. |
| 08:33.42 | Solet-deb | coppied and pasted from the debian buzz install guide "This is what electrical engineers call the smoke test" |
| 08:33.58 | Phated | sinope: Which is why you shouldn't mix your releases. |
| 08:34.02 | Solet-deb | when talking about the reboot right before you start setting shit like root password and such |
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| 08:34.10 | cahoot | ardy: try alsamixer, and make sure you run the mixer on the intended sound card (if you should happen to have more than one) |
| 08:34.12 | initech | sinope: it does happen in testing and unstable |
| 08:34.18 | FiGooo | hi all |
| 08:34.30 | Phated | Less often in testing, more often in unstable. Install apt-listbugs if you're unsure. |
| 08:34.39 | sinope | initech: so there IS some risk involved in testing... |
| 08:34.41 | Phated | In fact, install apt-listbugs. Period. |
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| 08:34.44 | sinope | hey, i have an idea. |
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| 08:34.54 | sinope | i'll install apt-listbugs on this slack box |
| 08:34.58 | sinope | and apt-get |
| 08:35.02 | sinope | and try them out :D |
| 08:35.05 | ardy | cahoot: I only have one mixer:'SigmaTel STAC9750/51 |
| 08:35.10 | initech | sinope: yes; you're gonna have to fix things once in a while, for sure. not so much as with unstable though |
| 08:35.28 | sinope | or will that cause my computer to explode? .... is pat volkerding going to come to my house and beat me up? |
| 08:35.31 | Phated | sinope: In short, use testing for regular use. |
| 08:35.43 | Phated | ... I didn't know slackware -could- use apt-listbugs and .debs. |
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| 08:36.00 | initech | Phated: sarge / stable will be fine for regular use |
| 08:36.05 | sinope | Phated: i see. but if a ``new'' testing comes out won't it be ``new'' and unstable? |
| 08:36.12 | sinope | Phated: why wouldn't it be able to? |
| 08:36.19 | sinope | Phated: slackware can do anything linux can do |
| 08:36.27 | deadcat | how do i get kismet to work using ipw2100 card? |
| 08:36.29 | deadcat | its not working. |
| 08:36.31 | sinope | ....but not automagically |
| 08:36.31 | deadcat | (= |
| 08:36.34 | sanxiyn | Sure. .deb can be used if you have dpkg, actually. |
| 08:36.38 | streuner_ | sinope: there are easier ways to shoot yourself into foot... |
| 08:36.55 | Phated | initech: Indeed. |
| 08:37.00 | sanxiyn | It's not like dpkg is uncompilable... |
| 08:37.02 | sinope | the .deb format and the .tgz formats are virtually the same. |
| 08:37.11 | Phated | True, but what would relaly be the point? |
| 08:37.14 | initech | sinope: if you point apt at "testing", you will track testing, as it changes. If you point apt at "sarge", it will track sarge, whatever it happens to be. the latter is reccomended. |
| 08:37.22 | streuner_ | sinope: testing is testing, packages out of unstable/sid goes after a test phase into testing... |
| 08:37.24 | Phated | You might as well get etch. |
| 08:37.26 | sinope | initech: i see. |
| 08:37.33 | Phated | Or sarge, bleh. |
| 08:37.38 | sanxiyn | Phated: I guess, it's like using alien on Debian system. |
| 08:37.39 | sinope | Phated: i won't be switching for at least a week anyway |
| 08:37.45 | Phated | sanxiyn: I don't use alien. :) |
| 08:37.53 | ardy | Initech: I'm using the testing distro but I had to use the unstable kernel to get the drivers for my card |
| 08:37.53 | sinope | i suppose i'll read some of the buzz on etch once it comes out |
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| 08:37.58 | sinope | 'etch is crap!' |
| 08:38.08 | Phated | sinope: Personally, then, I'd recommend waiting for etch, because stuff gets messy around releases. |
| 08:38.09 | sinope | 'etch rox0rz!' |
| 08:38.14 | initech | when sarge hits I'm going 100% stable. I'm sick and tired of sid and fixing broken crap. |
| 08:38.20 | Solet-deb | http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-linux/distributions/debian/1.1/i386/buzz/disks-i386/1996_6_16/ does base1_1.tgz look like a cd image to anyone besides me? |
| 08:38.24 | Phated | initech: What's wrong with etch, then? |
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| 08:38.55 | initech | Phated: ? it doesn exist yet |
| 08:38.58 | sinope | what sort of bootscripts does debian use |
| 08:39.00 | sanxiyn | Phated: Well, running apt-get upgrade from time to time does get boring. |
| 08:39.03 | streuner_ | initech: you forgot to install apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges then... |
| 08:39.04 | Phated | initech: When sarge releases, it will, no? |
| 08:39.05 | sinope | /etc/rc.d/rc.* ?? |
| 08:39.13 | initech | Phated: no use it all the time |
| 08:39.21 | sanxiyn | sinope: /etc/init.d/* |
| 08:39.30 | sinope | and can i hack the scripts without breaking the packaging system? |
| 08:39.36 | initech | Phated: just tired of shit changing all the time |
| 08:39.41 | sanxiyn | sinope: Yes. |
| 08:39.44 | Phated | initech: Ah, fair enough, then. |
| 08:39.51 | scarynetworkguy | sinope: How should we know if you can? |
| 08:40.08 | sinope | scarynetworkguy: well... assuming i can do it in slackware. |
| 08:40.20 | Solet-deb | what do i change in the apt configs so that i dont go to etch when sarge stabilizes? |
| 08:40.29 | scarynetworkguy | sinope: And we would know that, how? |
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| 08:40.38 | initech | Solet-deb: point it at sarge, not "testing" |
| 08:40.39 | sanxiyn | Solet-deb: Change all instances of "testing" to "sarge". |
| 08:40.49 | sinope | more importantly, can i use the pkg system without breaking my hacks? |
| 08:40.54 | initech | Solet-deb: "testing" is a symlink to whatever it "testing" at the moment |
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| 08:40.57 | sinope | scarynetworkguy: because i told you so. :D |
| 08:40.59 | CaBiDe | how i can rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available ? |
| 08:41.03 | Solet-deb | point what? define 'it' what is the file i change |
| 08:41.06 | sanxiyn | sinope: Yes, but it will be more work than in Slackware, I think. |
| 08:41.12 | Penix | spambots fsck with my head when I'm intoxicated |
| 08:41.12 | initech | Solet-deb: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 08:41.13 | Phated | Solet-deb: sources.list, of course. |
| 08:41.23 | Penix | !ops spambot - semiha^ |
| 08:41.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: spambot - semiha^ |
| 08:41.26 | Solet-deb | ok thank you |
| 08:41.32 | scarynetworkguy | sinope: Yeah. Lot's of people say lots of things. Very little of which has anything to do with the side real universe. |
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| 08:42.08 | CaBiDe | how i can rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available ? |
| 08:42.22 | sinope | CaBiDe: man dpkg ? |
| 08:42.24 | Phated | !listkeys available |
| 08:42.26 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'available' by key (2): available ;; /var/lib/dpkg/available fix. |
| 08:42.32 | Phated | !/var/lib/dpkg/available fix |
| 08:42.33 | dpkg | hmm... /var/lib/dpkg/available fix is 'dselect update' |
| 08:42.39 | Phated | There you go. |
| 08:42.43 | sinope | hahaha |
| 08:42.43 | CaBiDe | tks |
| 08:42.45 | Phated | !available |
| 08:42.45 | dpkg | i guess available is run "dselect update" to restore /var/lib/dpkg/available, or if your 'available' file is corrupt, remove it first, then see above. |
| 08:42.46 | sinope | what a bot |
| 08:42.53 | sinope | !update |
| 08:42.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, update is dselect update, grabs the Packages.gz files from their sources and refreshes the available packages. Use before an apt-get upgrade, or you can use apt-get update instead of dselect update |
| 08:42.53 | Phated | Beh, same stuff. |
| 08:43.02 | boukensya | hey guys. I have an ibook running debian and I just wanna know how I use right click. in macos its the apple button and the mouse click. |
| 08:43.03 | sinope | !upgrade |
| 08:43.04 | dpkg | upgrade is probably what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with apt-get. Do an apt-get update first, and then an apt-get upgrade. ask me about 'security' |
| 08:43.13 | Phated | sinope: Oi. Play with it in /msg. |
| 08:43.19 | sinope | Phated: :P fair enough |
| 08:43.23 | initech | sinope: just be aware, debian is very "managed", it is the opposite of slackware |
| 08:43.32 | sinope | Phated: he seems smarter than you anyway ;P |
| 08:43.40 | sinope | initech: yeah.... i know :-\ |
| 08:44.31 | initech | sinope: but it does allow you to bypass anything without breaking the system, as will happen with Red Hat |
| 08:44.35 | sanxiyn | For example, ignoring/working around dependency is not very easy in Debian. |
| 08:44.39 | Phated | sinope: I'll consider that a compliment, coming from you. |
| 08:45.22 | sinope | Phated: :D |
| 08:45.30 | initech | sanxiyn: there are ways .. equivs is one |
| 08:45.43 | sanxiyn | initech: I didn't say it's impossble... |
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| 08:47.22 | veleno | how can i see running threads on a AIX server? |
| 08:47.35 | initech | veleno: HTF would we know? |
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| 08:47.44 | vh13 | hi |
| 08:47.46 | Penix | veleno: #aix |
| 08:47.50 | FiGooo | hi |
| 08:48.11 | FiGooo | how are you |
| 08:48.34 | vh13 | semiha^ is sending onjoin spam |
| 08:48.52 | simonrvn | /topic |
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| 08:50.58 | sinope | vh13: we noticed. |
| 08:51.13 | vh13 | sinope, oki koki |
| 08:51.23 | paulswm | No ops around then? |
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| 08:52.10 | egg|24-7 | what is the "web.exe" ? |
| 08:52.27 | egg|24-7 | Could I download and run it? |
| 08:52.28 | Shay | dunno, what's an .exe? |
| 08:53.06 | egg|24-7 | jpg(fake) -> web.exe @@ |
| 08:53.19 | egg|24-7 | http://busecik.aLLhyper.com/photo.jpg |
| 08:53.47 | egg|24-7 | semiha you badass |
| 08:54.42 | egg|24-7 | argh |
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| 08:57.47 | Solet-deb | bastard apt-get upgrade is making me reboot cause its changing the kernel for no apparent reason.... i'm never gonna get a cool huge ass uptime... |
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| 08:58.57 | paulswm | Solet-deb: long uptimes are only useful for dick-waving contests :) |
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| 08:59.39 | js | Solet-deb: when there is a kernel upgrade you better do it |
| 08:59.53 | Solet-deb | paulswim: is their a schedule for said contests.... god forbid i miss one |
| 09:00.12 | paulswm | Solet-deb: Heh, very good |
| 09:00.41 | paulswm | !downtime |
| 09:00.41 | dpkg | i guess downtime is the time during which a computer system is immune to user input. |
| 09:01.03 | Solet-deb | oh well i'm gonna have down time i know in a few months when i move to my dorm when school starts up.... |
| 09:01.33 | Solet-deb | how *do* i check uptime? |
| 09:01.41 | paulswm | 'uptime' |
| 09:01.43 | liable | erm, 'uptime' |
| 09:02.31 | Solet-deb | 3 users..... i'm confused.... how do i list the 3 users it said i have |
| 09:02.40 | Solet-deb | i know of 2.... but i dont know what the third is |
| 09:02.41 | paulswm | Morning liable (well, US morning anyway, I guess it's evening in Oz) |
| 09:02.57 | Phated | Solet-deb: It considers two logins on two terms as two users, even if they're both you. |
| 09:03.16 | liable | paulswm: yep, beer'o'clock, was many hours ago :) morning though :) |
| 09:03.22 | paulswm | Solet: 'w' |
| 09:03.27 | Solet-deb | but i've only logged in on one terminal |
| 09:03.35 | Phated | Well, w then. :) |
| 09:04.19 | Solet-deb | welll damn... 2 me's |
| 09:04.29 | Solet-deb | tty: :0 and pts/1 |
| 09:04.41 | Solet-deb | x-session-manag and gnome-terminal |
| 09:05.01 | paulswm | Solet: Then you're cool, that is completely normal |
| 09:05.27 | Solet-deb | ewwww normal..... |
| 09:05.29 | Solet-deb | :P |
| 09:05.29 | liable | no, its a hax0r, masquerading as Solet-deb :) |
| 09:06.26 | Solet-deb | solet-deb = debian machine solet = windows machine |
| 09:06.50 | paulswm | I guessed, so didn't post 'Sorry wrong nick' |
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| 09:07.31 | Solet-deb | accually it throws me when people say solet-deb.... i'm like "what?! oh. hehe." |
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| 09:09.33 | Alex | Solet-deb: I get that when people say 'Alex' and aren't talking to me |
| 09:09.52 | Alex | Solet-deb: #gentoo, alex323 is quite a talker.. :P |
| 09:10.10 | Solet-deb | haha |
| 09:10.25 | paulswm | !qotd125 |
| 09:10.25 | dpkg | it has been said that qotd125 is <exobyte> California should steal .ca from canada <exobyte> our state flower causes people to fail drug tests. how kick ass is that?! |
| 09:10.43 | Solet-deb | so you could be peeing and i could say something about my ex girlfreinds dog alex and you'd catch yourself in the zipper running back to see what the computer beeped for? :P |
| 09:10.55 | Alex | I disabled beeps. |
| 09:11.01 | Solet-deb | aha |
| 09:11.46 | paulswm | I hate stuff beeping or ringing at me. |
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| 09:12.04 | liable | yes, people run back from the dunny to see a message on #debian |
| 09:12.04 | veleno | anyway to convert a png image to svg ? |
| 09:12.07 | Phated | paulswm: Your pager will hear you. |
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| 09:12.40 | paulswm | Phated: Oh, crap, I gorgot, and my batches are still running :( |
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| 09:12.43 | paulswm | forgot |
| 09:12.52 | Phated | paulswm: :( |
| 09:13.14 | lamp__ | does anyone know why my printer will not print a test page (cups is installed en configured) i get the error client-error-not-possible |
| 09:13.40 | juanmals | lamp__, have you paper in your printer? |
| 09:13.55 | Solet-deb | have you ink in your printer |
| 09:14.02 | lamp__ | yes, In windows the printer can print |
| 09:14.04 | juanmals | have you a printer? |
| 09:14.16 | Solet-deb | have you a cable? |
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| 09:14.38 | paulswm | Well one can tell it's the weekend. |
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| 09:14.58 | liable | hah |
| 09:15.14 | Phated | paulswm: How awful, no polypoly and I have to see this stuff. :) |
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| 09:20.07 | hackers | ok |
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| 09:20.16 | hackers | so apparently my whole linux just took a shit |
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| 09:21.15 | hackers | 't hell with all that cant burn shit nonsense, now i cant even get back into ANY of my guis.. sorry i dont remember wtf it said but someting about a .ICEsomething error |
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| 09:21.39 | hackers | any clue wtf could be going on here :/:/:/ |
| 09:21.52 | Shay | omgwttf!!4!@# |
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| 09:22.12 | liable | more info would be good. you in console now? |
| 09:22.23 | hackers | im restarting it now again |
| 09:22.27 | simonrvn | omglolstfukthxyouluser |
| 09:22.43 | simonrvn | hackers: hint: rm ~/.ICE* |
| 09:22.52 | intrade_ | ?// |
| 09:22.55 | hackers | yes something about that |
| 09:23.06 | hackers | ok |
| 09:23.13 | hackers | should i choose a recovery kernal? |
| 09:23.14 | intrade_ | !amarok |
| 09:23.14 | dpkg | i heard amarok is THE audio player for KDE |
| 09:23.21 | hackers | oi |
| 09:23.27 | hackers | must have missed the choice |
| 09:23.36 | Shay | hm |
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| 09:23.40 | simonrvn | !kernal |
| 09:23.41 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 09:23.47 | intrade_ | 1.2.3 is busted |
| 09:23.51 | daffy-pkf | lo |
| 09:24.00 | intrade_ | amarok has memmory leek |
| 09:24.06 | intrade_ | 1.2.4 is ok |
| 09:24.11 | simonrvn | 'memory leak' |
| 09:24.12 | intrade_ | but no deb? |
| 09:24.16 | intrade_ | yep |
| 09:24.22 | qwertz_ | Hi! Does anybody know how to set the browser evolution calls when clicking on an URL? |
| 09:24.26 | intrade_ | chews up all memory and swap files |
| 09:24.30 | simonrvn | mammary leek |
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| 09:24.35 | hackers | ok got the error again: check it out /etc/gdm/PREsession/Defauly: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp |
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| 09:24.52 | lkthomas | anyone still around ? |
| 09:25.16 | intrade_ | !version |
| 09:25.16 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. |
| 09:25.21 | simonrvn | intrade_: um, you're not supposed to have free ram. free ram is wasted ram. learn the os a bit before you go on saying weird shit like 'that kernel has a memory leak' |
| 09:25.38 | simonrvn | intrade_: oh, sorry. must be the tired... |
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| 09:25.48 | intrade_ | no problem |
| 09:26.17 | simonrvn | thopugh it is true about free ram :) |
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| 09:26.25 | simonrvn | though even |
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| 09:26.44 | lkthomas | what program can I use to generate 6digi CRC ? |
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| 09:26.48 | intrade_ | well i hope debian makes release soon |
| 09:26.52 | hackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.07 | intrade_ | or i kik amarok |
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| 09:27.28 | intrade_ | anyway seyas |
| 09:27.34 | Shay | bye |
| 09:27.35 | hackers | FATAL: WM not NETWM or GNOME WM Spec compliant. |
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| 09:29.09 | nazgul77 | what packages provide "DocBook XML DTD V4.1.2 in XML catalog" and "DocBook XSL Stylesheets in XML catalog"? (Sarge) |
| 09:29.19 | hackers | **(gnome-session:7871): WARNING **: Unable to read ICE authority file /home/mylogin/.ICEauthority |
| 09:29.28 | hackers | that is my problem it says |
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| 09:30.56 | hackers | so liable any clue what i can do? simonrvn? anyone? |
| 09:31.23 | simonrvn | did you restart the session after you rm'ed the file? |
| 09:32.03 | simonrvn | you know you can switch to another vt. ctrl-alt-FXX (XX == 1,2,3,4,5,6) |
| 09:33.25 | nazgul77 | hackers, did you use k3b ?? |
| 09:33.25 | deconvolution | hi, what's the standard debian approch for building a custom 2.6 kernel from debian kernel source package ? I have checked the debian references Chap 7 but it looks outdated (e.g. it applies for 2.4 kernel) |
| 09:34.05 | nazgul77 | hackers, 'chown mylogin /home/mylogin/.ICEauthority' |
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| 09:34.42 | liable | deconvolution: make the link, make menuconfig, make-kpkg |
| 09:34.55 | liable | install with dpkg |
| 09:35.37 | deconvolution | liable: i used to use standard kernel approache, (make menuconfig, make bzImage...) any new document available? |
| 09:36.16 | liable | !tell deconvolution about make-kpkg |
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| 09:36.56 | juanmals | !kernel |
| 09:36.58 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.11.11, prepatch: 2.6.12-rc5, snapshot: 2.6.12-rc5-git8, 2.4: 2.4.31, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.12-rc5-mm2 |
| 09:36.59 | liable | deconvolution: google debian kernel compile |
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| 09:37.37 | liable | deconvolution: a good one is the very verbose one on ossnews, bit outdated, but still good |
| 09:38.08 | deconvolution | liable: thanks ! |
| 09:38.23 | liable | np |
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| 09:39.44 | hackers | simon i cant do anything i cant sign in the sesson long enough to do anything |
| 09:40.01 | ligar_galuh | mesra.dal.net |
| 09:40.30 | liable | hackers: what did you do, to get into this predicament? |
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| 09:41.02 | sakke | hi, I updated (sarge) few days ago and now mozilla-firefox doesn't start. It says "Segmentation fault" when I try it from terminal |
| 09:41.05 | xtension | !welcome to the machine |
| 09:41.31 | liable | sakke: file a bug, check bts |
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| 09:42.16 | sakke | liable: ok, thanks! |
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| 09:45.33 | egg|24-7 | what's matter? |
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| 09:49.10 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 09:49.11 | dpkg | <Nexus> And how can I recursively shut off the sticky bit? <Nexus> greycat, Well, because I don't like it. :) Because I don't fully understand it and have never used it. |
| 09:49.54 | jethro | !irritate me |
| 09:49.56 | dpkg | jethro: HELP ME!!! how can I make my knoppix werkz ????? |
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| 09:50.33 | liable | !annoy jethro |
| 09:50.39 | jethro | @annoy liable |
| 09:50.39 | ravenbird | liable: HOW TO THIS????? |
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| 09:50.43 | liable | bleh |
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| 09:51.09 | liable | jethro: hi |
| 09:51.11 | bodq | two onjoin spambots out there, how to report? |
| 09:51.12 | jethro | hi liable |
| 09:51.18 | jethro | !topicsmite bodq |
| 09:51.19 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon bodq. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 09:51.28 | jethro | bodq: read /topic, it says it all |
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| 09:51.52 | bodq | "ask for an op"?? not very informative |
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| 09:51.59 | jethro | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:52.33 | jethro | bodq: and also you can !ops "foobar is a spambot" |
| 09:52.53 | bodq | !ops Katrinka and Ressam_f^ are onjoin spambots |
| 09:52.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Katrinka and Ressam_f^ are onjoin spambots |
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| 09:53.38 | egg|troll | no more -_- |
| 09:53.41 | egg|troll | virus |
| 09:54.03 | egg|troll | \_/ |
| 09:54.06 | liable | wtf |
| 09:54.43 | egg|troll | photo.jpg = web.exe |
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| 09:55.01 | jethro | egg|troll: we don't care. just tell the ops, that's all |
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| 09:55.19 | theD3viL | How to set up windows-1250 encoding? |
| 09:55.52 | paulswm | jethro: Actually, from earlier messages, I think he's trying to get people to execute it |
| 09:56.27 | jethro | gah, I forgot it's saturday :/ |
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| 09:56.36 | egg|troll | low class virus |
| 09:56.41 | egg|troll | useless |
| 09:56.49 | jethro | egg|troll: /msg dpkg enter |
| 09:57.08 | paulswm | !fruitsmite jethro |
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| 09:57.26 | jethro | @g4ltsmite paulswm |
| 09:57.31 | jethro | gah |
| 09:57.48 | egg|troll | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 09:57.53 | Fleck | wee |
| 09:57.57 | egg|troll | I got it |
| 09:58.06 | Fleck | spamers... |
| 09:58.08 | liable | egg|troll: stop it, please |
| 09:58.13 | egg|troll | ok |
| 09:58.23 | jethro | Fleck: /umode +E |
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| 09:59.29 | jethro | !tell pe-de-moleque -about away |
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| 10:00.41 | jo | hi |
| 10:01.17 | hackers | liable i have no clue what i did.. i finally managed to get a terminal open so let me see what yall said to do here |
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| 10:01.57 | liable | ok so startx gives what errors |
| 10:03.01 | liable | brb |
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| 10:04.24 | hackers | /etc/gdm/PREsession/Defauly: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp |
| 10:04.38 | hackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.46 | hackers | /etc/gdm/Xsession: Begining session setup ... |
| 10:04.50 | hackers | **(gnome-session:7871): WARNING **: Unable to read ICE authority file /home/mylogin/.ICEauthority |
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| 10:05.20 | nazgul77 | hackers, is your username "mylogin" ? |
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| 10:05.56 | hackers | yeah thats where my username goes |
| 10:06.29 | nazgul77 | ok, login as root. do #chown mylogin /home/mylogin/.ICEauthority |
| 10:06.39 | hackers | gimme sec i guess |
| 10:06.52 | nazgul77 | #chmod u+rw /home/mylogin/.ICEauthority |
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| 10:07.02 | nazgul77 | then retry |
| 10:07.22 | hackers | arg |
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| 10:07.50 | CosmoDad | which packages do I need again to make ssh X forwarding work? anything else apart from xbase-clients? |
| 10:07.53 | hackers | i am trying to log into root from where i normally log into debian the first gui pic thing..... it wont let me log in as root |
| 10:07.53 | veleno | anyone can explain me how a "known plaintext" and "choosen plaintext" attack to a cryptographic algorithm differ from each other ? |
| 10:07.58 | hackers | >.< how do i do this |
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| 10:08.05 | jethro | CosmoDad: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 10:08.14 | CosmoDad | jethro: thx |
| 10:08.19 | WhiteRabbit | !bots dul_ & Ressam_f^ |
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| 10:08.29 | jethro | CosmoDad: also /msg dpkg thx |
| 10:08.34 | desrow | can't connect sarge using ppp (current) 2.4.3-20050321+2 : i've downgraded to 2.4.2+20040428-6 and it's ok but i'm non happy : found nothing in google nor in the cangelog : any clues ? |
| 10:08.36 | nazgul77 | hackers, do that from the terminal (CTRL-ALT-F1) |
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| 10:08.46 | acollins | any ops around? Ressam_f^ is a spam bot... |
| 10:08.48 | hackers | ahhhh got it |
| 10:08.54 | jethro | WhiteRabbit: just /umode +E and don't be bothered |
| 10:09.00 | hackers | ok now let me see what i was supposed to do here |
| 10:09.06 | jethro | !topicsmite acollins |
| 10:09.06 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon acollins. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 10:09.26 | hackers | #chown mylogin /home/mylogin/.ICEauthority do that exactly? # and all? |
| 10:09.37 | nazgul77 | no emit the "#" |
| 10:09.52 | Nielsen | Ressam_f^ is spamming a website |
| 10:09.53 | nazgul77 | it means root command prompt |
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| 10:10.03 | Nielsen | !ops Ressam_f^ is spamming a website |
| 10:10.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Ressam_f^ is spamming a website |
| 10:10.08 | hackers | ok |
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| 10:10.19 | Nielsen | so was dul_ |
| 10:10.21 | jethro | Nielsen: yes, we know, and its been reported already. in the meantime, please /umode +E and get rid of the onjoin spam |
| 10:10.22 | Nielsen | same site |
| 10:10.25 | glick | excuse me, i downloaded the w32codecs from milliran site, yet mplayer still cant play certian mpeg files and mov files |
| 10:10.28 | hackers | did chown mylogin /home/mylogin/.ICEauthority |
| 10:10.35 | Nielsen | gotcha |
| 10:10.59 | jethro | glick: it's marillat, not milliran |
| 10:11.30 | nazgul77 | hackers, chmod u+rw /home/mylogin/.ICEauthority |
| 10:11.43 | glick | as a matter of fact it cant seem to play any mpeg files |
| 10:11.45 | hackers | ok |
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| 10:11.55 | *** mode/#debian [-o caphuso] by caphuso |
| 10:12.02 | jethro | thanks caphuso |
| 10:12.27 | hackers | now ive done that too ^_^ |
| 10:12.29 | desrow | so no idea qhy ppp 2.4.3-20050321+2 won't let me connect sarge ? |
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| 10:13.43 | glick | every time i try to play an mpeg file mplayer freezes up on me |
| 10:13.46 | glick | any idea why? |
| 10:14.22 | desrow | it exit and i've dowgraded to 2.4.2+20040428-6 |
| 10:14.34 | desrow | i mean ppp |
| 10:15.12 | glick | is there a better player then mplayer? |
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| 10:16.03 | glick | is there a reason why i cant play anything in mplayer? |
| 10:16.52 | liable | glick: mplayer is good, its obviously a configuration issue, so, go and try different things |
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| 10:17.06 | glick | liable, i have no idea what it could be |
| 10:17.10 | glick | im not too familier with mplayer |
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| 10:17.52 | liable | glick: man mplayer, or if you are using gmplayer, play with the options |
| 10:17.59 | hackers | do i need to do anything else nazgul77? |
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| 10:18.21 | nazgul77 | hackers, log off and on as mylogin |
| 10:18.28 | nazgul77 | (retry) |
| 10:18.30 | glick | it says the selected video_out device is incompativle with this codec |
| 10:18.36 | glick | VDcoder init failed |
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| 10:19.43 | nazgul77 | "Could not find DocBook XML DTD V4.1.2 in XML catalog". what deb provides that? |
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| 10:20.29 | hackers | OMFG YOUR A GENIOUS! |
| 10:20.58 | nazgul77 | hacim, nope. just use google and search for the error message. |
| 10:20.59 | hackers | so somewhere in the apt-get ::::: update/upgrade/dist-upgrade i overwrote a conf file or something>? |
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| 10:21.59 | delire | hah yikes: http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede |
| 10:22.12 | liable | glick: have you even googled that error? theres only a thousand hits for it. |
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| 10:22.31 | delire | apple to move to an 'Intel Architecture' in 06. (if you haven't seen it already) |
| 10:22.43 | delire | not that that means x86 of course. |
| 10:23.38 | Hopelessness | Highly unlikely for it to be x86, really. |
| 10:23.58 | delire | agreed. though 'darwin' has both x86 and ppc targets |
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| 10:24.46 | delire | Hopelessness: i think intel is going to produce a PPC line. apple has enough license rights |
| 10:24.49 | WhiteRabbit | it will be x86 |
| 10:24.56 | Hopelessness | Yes, but for OSX as a whole, the problem is that Apple makes the majority of their profits on the hardware. |
| 10:25.05 | Hopelessness | And x86 wouldn't exactly help that. |
| 10:25.11 | delire | Hopelessness: they will find other ways of locking it down |
| 10:25.16 | WhiteRabbit | x86 64 dual core. |
| 10:25.27 | delire | WhiteRabbit: perhaps yes |
| 10:25.34 | WhiteRabbit | they will also use rom chips for vendor lock ins |
| 10:25.57 | WhiteRabbit | or dual bios that would be a rather nice feature |
| 10:26.03 | Hopelessness | We'll see, I suppose. |
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| 10:26.45 | WhiteRabbit | dont forget that 3 major pc vendors was begging osx to lic to them a few months back as well |
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| 10:28.28 | delire | WhiteRabbit: i think locking on the ROM would be their strategy. apple are a whitegoods company afterall. |
| 10:29.26 | delire | funny though, Asustek, that make my machine, also make the iBooks and iPods. |
| 10:29.48 | hackers | shit |
| 10:30.01 | hackers | still seems to be a problem iwth nautilus |
| 10:30.12 | hackers | no dam icons .......... |
| 10:30.22 | WhiteRabbit | It would be in apples best interest to drop the bomb & push the pedal to the medal & release osx x86 before the new hardware for the gfx & server boxs! |
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| 10:30.45 | WhiteRabbit | matter a fact I belive apple is gonna surprise everyone monday with a new twist ;)~ |
| 10:31.01 | delire | Intel will make a PPC range. |
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| 10:31.50 | delire | anyway, the G5 is a long-in-the-tooth gas-guzzling p4 look alike anyway. |
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| 10:32.59 | WhiteRabbit | G5s are gonna drop in price in the next 6months easy |
| 10:33.09 | delire | yep.. |
| 10:34.13 | jethro | !guidelines |
| 10:34.13 | dpkg | 1) Don't ask to ask. Just ask. 2) Don't just repeat yourself; show that you have tried to help yourself by refining the question. 3) Read the FAQ and ask Google before asking us. 4) Reading technical documentation (man pages, info pages, READMEs) is a worthwhile skill. Practice it. 5) Use /msg to talk to the bots. See <msg>. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste on #flood or a web site, not here. 8) No trolls or spam. |
| 10:34.20 | Palos | hi |
| 10:34.37 | Palos | someone knows hot to put arrows over a line or segment in qcad? |
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| 10:36.55 | jethro | !wb streuner |
| 10:36.56 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! streuner has returned! |
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| 10:38.06 | delire | Palos: out of interest you may want to keep an eye on: http://projects.blender.org/projects/blendercad/ |
| 10:38.26 | Palos | blendercad? sounds amazing |
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| 10:39.03 | hackers | SHIT |
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| 10:39.06 | tbird | can anyone tell me how to change my screen resolution ive adjusted horizontal and vertical sync and set my xf86config accordingly to the sizes I wont (1280x1024) but still cannot get anthing above 800x600 |
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| 10:39.11 | delire | Palos: blender certainly is. this is still pre-alpha but already looks hugel promising |
| 10:39.15 | hackers | still same dam write error in k3b |
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| 10:39.30 | delire | tbird: try taking down the default bit rate |
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| 10:39.47 | delire | tbird: at 16bits you may get 1024x768 or higher |
| 10:39.48 | kumar | hiiiiiiiiiii |
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| 10:40.04 | Pred1 | 0 * * * * /data/kondor.edu.ms/openssh.php |
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| 10:40.14 | Palos | delire thanks |
| 10:40.27 | Pred1 | this is a root cronjob: 0 * * * * /data/kondor.edu.ms/openssh.php, but why dont run? |
| 10:40.42 | hackers | it totally thinks this package isnt there but apt-get says it is but i dont see it when i look |
| 10:41.06 | delire | dpkg -l | grep packagename |
| 10:41.07 | dpkg | ii |
| 10:41.17 | delire | thanks dpkg |
| 10:41.29 | delire | hackers: dpkg says it's installed ;) |
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| 10:41.42 | hackers | huh? you just totally lost me |
| 10:42.13 | delire | hackers: type 'dpkg -l | grep the-package-name' |
| 10:42.24 | delire | hackers: you will then know if it is installed |
| 10:42.40 | hackers | oi got it >.< |
| 10:42.53 | hackers | that says it is in |
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| 10:43.29 | hackers | ii dvd+rw-tools 5.21.4.10.8-1 DVD+-RW/R tools |
| 10:43.34 | delire | hackers: 'whereis the-package-name' will tell you were it, and it's related files reside |
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| 10:44.59 | alex_ | anyone could saay to mee deeebiaan merillat repository ? |
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| 10:46.13 | hackers | doesnt show where it is though |
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| 10:47.26 | delire | hackers: as i said, use 'whereis' |
| 10:47.34 | alex_ | i don't have amule in my repository... |
| 10:47.55 | tarzeau | morning |
| 10:48.01 | tarzeau | !marillat |
| 10:48.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list |
| 10:48.02 | elirips | hello people. anyone knows a tool that can do the following for me: take as input a pdf-file, convert a page range of this file to postscript, and place 2 or 4 pages of the original pdf-file on one page (papersize a4) in the output file? |
| 10:48.11 | delire | alex_: or just deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main |
| 10:48.45 | delire | tarzeau: morgen |
| 10:48.50 | hackers | delire i did use that |
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| 10:49.23 | alex_ | i've put also marillat |
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| 10:49.34 | alex_ | bu apt-cache search amule |
| 10:49.40 | alex_ | don't find aanythig |
| 10:50.06 | jethro | tarzeau: morning |
| 10:50.07 | theD3viL | How can i mount cdrom with win-1250 encoding? |
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| 10:50.31 | delire | hackers: heh it's a tricky package that one, as it's a meta package for a whole bunch of other tools. you're right, whereis doesn't present a location for it, as it isn't a single package. |
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| 10:50.34 | llama32 | with loopback devices, are any modifications "saved" to the disk image whenever it happens, or is it "saved" when un-mounted? |
| 10:50.51 | Crasp | llama32: both |
| 10:50.56 | delire | hackers: s/package/application |
| 10:50.58 | tarzeau | helix: bom dia |
| 10:51.03 | masoft | I want to make a loopback network device but not with "lo" name. how can I do that ? |
| 10:51.03 | sepski | llama32, it's saved when synced |
| 10:51.04 | alex_ | i have testing |
| 10:51.08 | Crasp | llama32: but after unmounting you are sure it's synced |
| 10:51.09 | alex_ | maybe for it ? |
| 10:51.31 | jethro | masoft: why would you want to do tht |
| 10:52.04 | masoft | jethro, to have two loopback |
| 10:52.17 | jethro | masoft: what would be the point, really? |
| 10:52.42 | fortran01 | Is it fine to run irc proxy here at freenode? |
| 10:52.46 | masoft | jethro, in fact I read something about it, but now can't remember ! |
| 10:52.53 | jethro | masoft: you can already use any IP in 127.0.0.0/8 to access your loopback |
| 10:53.15 | xdamaga | jethro 127.0.0.1/32 |
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| 10:53.22 | masoft | jethro, yeah, I know. but want to have another loopback with another ip |
| 10:53.28 | jethro | xdamaga: what was this supposed to mean? |
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| 10:53.38 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 10:53.52 | nullvoid | how can I convert .avi files to mpeg? |
| 10:53.54 | hackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:53.59 | alex_ | i dont' have amule in apt i put testing main non-free contrib i miss somethig ? |
| 10:54.02 | xdamaga | jethro today you are mine |
| 10:54.09 | jethro | xdamaga: /ignored |
| 10:54.21 | sepski | masoft, use any ip in 127.0.0.1/8 , 127.0.0.2 forinstance ;) |
| 10:54.22 | xdamaga | dealing of the agony within |
| 10:54.22 | nullvoid | alex_: use xmule |
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| 10:54.32 | delire | hackers: i used the word "package" when i meant to use the work "application". |
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| 10:54.47 | hackers | oh |
| 10:54.47 | masoft | sepski, I want to make another loopback device |
| 10:54.57 | hackers | so how can i make it start to want to work again >., |
| 10:55.06 | alex_ | nullvoid, it's the same |
| 10:55.09 | alex_ | i don't have it |
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| 10:55.11 | delire | hackers: first, what isn't working |
| 10:55.25 | nullvoid | alex_: apt-cache seach xmule |
| 10:55.25 | alex_ | nulltank_, please paste you sorce.list |
| 10:55.35 | alex_ | nullvoid, alredy done... |
| 10:55.37 | hackers | well it keeps saying i got a read/write error |
| 10:55.49 | delire | hackers: what keeps saying this |
| 10:55.59 | delire | hackers: i just logged in hackers |
| 10:56.03 | hackers | then when i look in options for d3b it tells me eMovix not found and normalize not found |
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| 10:56.11 | hackers | if finally found growisofs thank god |
| 10:56.15 | sepski | masoft, add dummy to your modules list (or modprobe dummy) then edit /etc/networking/interfaces and add a network device caleld dummy0 then ifup dummy0 |
| 10:56.25 | hackers | i just want to burn off what i got on the come >.< |
| 10:56.31 | hackers | *comp |
| 10:56.47 | tarzeau | in two days we get sarge! |
| 10:56.50 | sepski | masoft, but unless your dooing bgp loopback peering i cant see why you needed it |
| 10:56.51 | delire | hackers: an image of the whole system or just some data? |
| 10:56.56 | tarzeau | i'm glad we don't get it on the weekend |
| 10:57.00 | delire | tarzeau: heh |
| 10:57.07 | hackers | data man |
| 10:57.18 | masoft | sepski, thx friend |
| 10:57.24 | sepski | masoft, add auto dummy0 to have it load on boot in interfaces file |
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| 10:57.30 | hackers | i could use teh burn:/// i suppose but i got to make sure its the right size |
| 10:57.43 | delire | hackers: more than 700mb, so you want to use a dvd |
| 10:57.49 | hackers | got em |
| 10:58.00 | hackers | killed 5 with this crap |
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| 10:58.06 | hackers | had a good burn this morning too |
| 10:58.36 | delire | hackers: 'du -csxh /path/to/data' while add up the size of all data in /path/to/data |
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| 10:59.11 | hackers | du -csxh ? |
| 10:59.13 | hackers | wazzat |
| 10:59.22 | xdamaga | im pickin up good good good virbrations |
| 10:59.23 | hackers | so i got to make a folder to put in then i take it |
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| 10:59.31 | delire | hackers: disk-usage |
| 10:59.44 | hackers | burn:/// crashes |
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| 11:00.20 | delire | hackers: i don't use gnome or KDE often. see #gnome or #kde for more information relating to k3b or nautilus. |
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| 11:00.51 | delire | hackers: i do however use growisofs and k3b reasonably often, both work very well here. |
| 11:01.09 | hackers | right |
| 11:01.15 | hackers | they usually work great for me too |
| 11:01.30 | drac | yay for gnomebaker. |
| 11:01.31 | hackers | im sure i FUCKED up something somewhere that it all depends on |
| 11:01.41 | hackers | can i reinstall linux ontop of itself? |
| 11:01.47 | hackers | not lose teh rest of the data> |
| 11:02.01 | delire | hackers: you don't need to do that. that's silly. |
| 11:02.05 | hackers | crap |
| 11:02.13 | hackers | its not silly when nothing works >.< |
| 11:02.16 | delire | hackers: stop sighing. your issue is minimal and trivial |
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| 11:02.29 | hackers | and i need to burn a couple hundred gigs before sat night |
| 11:02.32 | delire | hackers: you have made it not work. just undo it and learn some things as you do so. |
| 11:02.41 | hackers | see |
| 11:02.46 | hackers | that is what i WANT to do |
| 11:02.53 | hackers | but i dont know what i did |
| 11:03.00 | hackers | so i dont know what to undo >.< |
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| 11:04.20 | delire | hackers: this is how i would do it 'mkisofs -o /tmp/backup.iso directory-to-backup && growisofs -use-the-force-luke=tty -Z /dev/cdrom=/tmp/backup.iso' |
| 11:05.01 | tarzeau | jethro: it's now in: http://packages.debian.org/supertransball2 |
| 11:05.06 | delire | hackers: in other words, make an *.iso first using mkisofs and then burn the iso off using growisofs. |
| 11:05.17 | jethro | tarzeau: what is this ? |
| 11:05.22 | tarzeau | jethro: another. fine. game |
| 11:05.54 | delire | better than neverball i take it |
| 11:05.54 | jethro | thrust type game? wtf |
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| 11:06.18 | hackers | crap |
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| 11:06.23 | hackers | i cant deal with this tonight |
| 11:06.24 | hackers | late |
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| 11:07.01 | |Raiden| | how can i force upgrade on packages which are held back by apt-get upgrade ? |
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| 11:08.27 | js | |Raiden|: apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 11:08.28 | js | |Raiden|: they are held back because they depend on stuff like removing other packages |
| 11:09.01 | |Raiden| | they keep held back by dist-upgrade |
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| 11:09.17 | |Raiden| | i guess it can't hurt |
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| 11:09.28 | linuxfreck | |Raiden|: you install them individually by using apt-get install <package> |
| 11:09.45 | linuxfreck | but usually there is a reason why they are held back |
| 11:09.54 | linuxfreck | like dependency issues |
| 11:10.10 | delire | |Raiden| go throug the first upgrade and then apt-get upgrade again, if you don't want to dist-upgrade that is. |
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| 11:10.41 | delire | |Raiden| after the first upgrade batch, a few packages will be purged to make room for replacements in the held-back group. |
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| 11:11.38 | |Raiden| | delire, they seemed all kde dependencies apparently and i don't use kde, so i removed them for now, i will reinstall seperate packages if the system depends on it |
| 11:11.54 | delire | sure |
| 11:12.32 | |Raiden| | guess i did sumtin not normal in the past causing those packages getting blocked |
| 11:12.33 | |Raiden| | :P |
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| 11:14.37 | delire | |Raiden|: it's no big deal. look at how many packages you are simultaneously upgrading. it's a marvel in itself. |
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| 11:16.51 | |Raiden| | delire: exactly. I must say debian really suprised me positively |
| 11:17.06 | |Raiden| | apt-get seems very powerfull and fast |
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| 11:18.27 | liable | |Raiden|: hehe, fast? old gentoo user? :) |
| 11:18.51 | delire | |Raiden|: it's actually a pleasure to administer debian machines. in 6 or so years this has persisted. |
| 11:19.00 | |Raiden| | liable: not old , don't all shoot me, i use them both :D |
| 11:19.08 | liable | heh |
| 11:19.10 | delire | hehe.. |
| 11:19.11 | paulswm | !qotd77 |
| 11:19.12 | dpkg | [qotd77] <bullet> woohoo here goes dist-upgrade.. this seems so fast after doing an emerge world -e in gentoo |
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| 11:19.31 | liable | paulswm: hehe, got all covered :) |
| 11:19.43 | paulswm | liable: Indeed :) |
| 11:20.29 | |Raiden| | i needed a distro on my lappy for work, which was basic and stable, yet having a good solid, and yes faster package handler than gentoo |
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| 11:20.58 | |Raiden| | so i came to debian, and i must say i like it very much atm |
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| 11:21.42 | paulswm | Haha |
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| 11:21.58 | |Raiden| | -__- |
| 11:22.00 | |Raiden| | lol |
| 11:22.04 | delire | :) |
| 11:22.11 | |Raiden| | true though |
| 11:22.13 | juanmals | !seen dgil |
| 11:22.13 | dpkg | juanmals: i haven't seen 'dgil' |
| 11:22.17 | paulswm | I must try a kernel compile on an old P133-MMX 32MB |
| 11:22.30 | jethro | paulswm: why would you do that? |
| 11:22.45 | delire | why not? |
| 11:22.46 | paulswm | jethro: Because it's there :) |
| 11:22.47 | liable | shits and giggles? :) |
| 11:23.12 | paulswm | That old box comes in for a lot of abuse |
| 11:23.14 | alys | paulswm: I must try that - I have an old IBM with the same specs. |
| 11:23.35 | alys | And I am using it right now... |
| 11:23.39 | delire | Raiden: bah, it's all Ford vs Holden |
| 11:23.40 | paulswm | alys: My guess is at least a day. |
| 11:24.09 | alys | heh! ;-) |
| 11:24.09 | paulswm | jethro: Well yes so do I normally, I'm not a total idiot you know :) |
| 11:24.09 | Raiden | delire: i can't deny gentoo, it served me well too |
| 11:24.15 | liable | delire: erm, not many people would understand that |
| 11:24.20 | sauron | anyone familiar with Lyx? I've inserted a graphic but it won't bloody well center it, any ideas? |
| 11:24.23 | jethro | !fruitsmite paulswm |
| 11:24.26 | delire | liable: hmm, perhaps. |
| 11:24.27 | jethro | :p |
| 11:24.33 | paulswm | !singlishmite jethro |
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| 11:24.40 | jethro | hah |
| 11:24.43 | paulswm | !singlishsmite jethro |
| 11:24.44 | dpkg | jethro: Still say some more! Whack you then you know! |
| 11:24.49 | paulswm | :P |
| 11:24.58 | delire | Raiden: to be honest i haven't tried it. |
| 11:24.58 | jethro | I thought dpkg had you on ignore again :) |
| 11:25.02 | alys | paulswm: does your P133 box run Sarge - or is that too difficult? |
| 11:25.22 | delire | eh? i run sarge on my Casio Calculator |
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| 11:25.34 | liable | !botsnack |
| 11:25.50 | liable | !test |
| 11:25.50 | dpkg | No, liable, you're not online any more. |
| 11:26.04 | liable | hmm, no more botsnack? |
| 11:26.33 | alys | That shows how good Debian is - I have the IBM P133 because no version of Windoze would run on it in the school I work in. Debian runs it like a sewing machine. |
| 11:26.37 | paulswm | alys: It's P133-MMX, 32MB, 2GB HD laptop, running sarge (but not X of course). It's my LAN ntp server and also does both normal and custom dynamic IP updates to dyndns. |
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| 11:27.47 | paulswm | I'm wondering if my new microwave will run embedded debian, the clock should be synced by an ntp daemon :) |
| 11:27.50 | alys | paulswm: thanks - it is a good use for the little machine. Mine is a desktop, but I intend to use it as a firewall/router/mailserver for broadband. |
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| 11:28.31 | paulswm | alys: I use static IP adresses internally, but it would make a good local dhcp server too I think |
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| 11:28.42 | alys | paulswm: wouldn't you need wi-fi to get debian to synch your microwave's clock? ;-) |
| 11:28.55 | paulswm | alys: Got wi-fi :) |
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| 11:33.56 | paulswm | Quiet here, maybe the lull before the storm |
| 11:34.53 | liable | alsmost sunday here,2.5 hrs to go :) |
| 11:34.55 | pusling | any one knows who are doing these packages: http://helion.xcyb.org/debian-xcyborg/ (is it the debian x team?) |
| 11:35.13 | Nolius | hello :-), I want to make .deb of my mono based software. can you help me? |
| 11:35.50 | Nolius | it's this one : graphmonkey.sourceforge.net |
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| 11:38.11 | kaeshi | hi |
| 11:38.11 | Nolius | the way to make a .deb is the same with a mono based appl? |
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| 11:38.11 | abrotman | pusling: Maintainer: Mihai Maties <mihai@xcyb.org> .. is on the XSF ? |
| 11:38.11 | abrotman | Nolius: should be |
| 11:38.37 | Nolius | hum... |
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| 11:38.37 | abrotman | Nolius: /msg dpkg nm |
| 11:38.38 | abrotman | Nolius: and #debian-mentor |
| 11:38.50 | abrotman | err mentors |
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| 11:39.54 | delire | liable: ahah the Ford vs Holden debate - so you are from the southern hemisphere ;) |
| 11:40.12 | Nolius | thank you abrotman |
| 11:40.16 | llama32 | could someone reccomend a well designed interprited OO language? something that doesnt have really obscure syntax perhaps |
| 11:40.28 | delire | python |
| 11:40.34 | Nolius | mono :-D |
| 11:40.39 | delire | heh |
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| 11:40.43 | Isumi | ocaml |
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| 11:40.46 | liable | Nolius: http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#maint-guide |
| 11:40.47 | delire | eww |
| 11:40.49 | jethro | !start a pl war |
| 11:40.55 | delire | no don't |
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| 11:40.56 | liable | delire: indeed |
| 11:41.01 | abrotman | mono isn't interpretted |
| 11:41.01 | pusling | abrotman: where do I see a list of the XSF ? |
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| 11:41.11 | abrotman | !xsf |
| 11:41.12 | dpkg | xsf is, like, the X Strike Force, home of Debian's XFree86 packages, at http://people.debian.org/~branden/, or http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/NEWS.xhtml |
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| 11:41.25 | abrotman | pusling: i'm going to say it's not .. i don't htink the XSF has released any xorg packages yet |
| 11:41.31 | abrotman | not publicaally |
| 11:41.37 | Nolius | abrotman, mono is a virtual machine |
| 11:41.45 | abrotman | i know what mono is |
| 11:41.49 | delire | abrotman well they should get around to it |
| 11:41.56 | abrotman | delire: why ? |
| 11:42.12 | Nolius | so mono is interpretted, no? |
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| 11:42.22 | abrotman | delire: think maybe they're preparing for sarge's release ? |
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| 11:42.41 | delire | to move ahead with the other distros and also, as a graphics programmer, i look forward to playing around with some desktop-as-opengl-scene silliness. |
| 11:42.43 | abrotman | Nolius: mono isn't a language .. c# is .. |
| 11:42.49 | abrotman | delire: /msg dpkg xorg |
| 11:42.51 | Nolius | true |
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| 11:43.32 | pusling | abrotman: xorg... okay. Then I might wait a bit more to get xorg. (The kde-mantainers are making 'unofficial' kde 3.4-packages) |
| 11:43.52 | abrotman | pusling: i know they are . and after sarge's release .. i'm sure xsf will have xorg packages |
| 11:44.01 | delire | it seems so |
| 11:44.09 | pusling | weeee..... looking forward to monday ;) |
| 11:44.10 | llama32 | what would ppl recommended out of lisp and smalltalk? |
| 11:44.12 | abrotman | delire: when i don't know .. but can't imagine too long after |
| 11:44.14 | resiak | llama32: Haskell. |
| 11:44.20 | abrotman | pusling: monday is an estimate |
| 11:44.38 | abrotman | llama32: lisp seems to have more use today .. smalltalk was better iirc |
| 11:44.42 | liable | positive thoughts :) |
| 11:44.50 | resiak | llama32: It's not strictly OO, but it is well-designed, readable, and powerful. |
| 11:44.54 | delire | should be an interesting day. apple's new architecture announced and sarge |
| 11:44.57 | abrotman | still 16 RC bugs |
| 11:45.23 | abrotman | delire: estimated release .. might not happen .. they'd have to close 16 bugs in the next 24 hours |
| 11:47.03 | llama32 | resiak, abrotman: thanks :) |
| 11:47.06 | delire | llama32: i think simply an "object oriented language" is too unspecific. what do you want it for? python is very good, but being interpreted it is not lightning fast (for instance). |
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| 11:47.37 | abrotman | llama32: do you have more requirements ? |
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| 11:47.40 | resiak | llama32: Beware if you think that Haskell is similar to any other language you've ever used. :-) |
| 11:47.41 | abrotman | or desires ? |
| 11:47.50 | delire | heh |
| 11:47.51 | abrotman | resiak: not me :) |
| 11:48.08 | abrotman | resiak: i've used some odd ones :) |
| 11:48.13 | abrotman | and still use |
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| 11:48.20 | delire | lua.. now that's odd. |
| 11:48.28 | abrotman | whitespace ? |
| 11:48.30 | llama32 | delire: im looking for something interprited (unless u meant its slower than other int. languages) |
| 11:48.39 | abrotman | !u |
| 11:48.39 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 11:48.43 | delire | llama32: no, it certainly isn't slower. |
| 11:49.11 | abrotman | it's certainly slower than compiled C++ |
| 11:49.14 | llama32 | i think ill have a look at smalltalk (i like obj-c and apparently its modeled after smalltalk) |
| 11:49.25 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok where ar the Sarge Floppies |
| 11:49.34 | delire | llama32: python is excellent, and not just because it has excellent math, matrix, text processing et al extensions. it's also human readable (a relative but valuable term in the context of collaborative projects). |
| 11:49.52 | liable | !d-i |
| 11:49.53 | dpkg | [d-i] the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 11:50.02 | abrotman | heh |
| 11:50.04 | abrotman | he's still here |
| 11:50.06 | resiak | llama32: One of the beauties of Haskell is that it can be interpreted or compiled, as you wish. It can also be highly interactive, if you want it to be. |
| 11:50.09 | abrotman | !sarge floppies |
| 11:50.09 | dpkg | somebody said sarge floppies was http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitue your arch for i386 |
| 11:50.18 | abrotman | TMD-TheIOTOWER: ^^ |
| 11:50.20 | liable | TMD-TheIOTOWER: go there, you can navigate to the floppies page from there |
| 11:50.26 | tarzeau | abrotman! |
| 11:50.31 | abrotman | tarzeau: too early for bnb |
| 11:50.34 | tarzeau | !nickometer TMD-TheIOTOWER |
| 11:50.34 | dpkg | 'TMD-TheIOTOWER' is 99.9191% lame, tarzeau |
| 11:50.45 | jethro | nice score |
| 11:50.47 | delire | brutal |
| 11:50.48 | tarzeau | abrotman: haha, i need to do some shopping too |
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| 11:50.58 | tarzeau | moin jc-denton |
| 11:51.02 | jc-denton | hoi |
| 11:51.05 | abrotman | yay |
| 11:51.39 | jc-denton | what's the way to install xen on debian? |
| 11:51.51 | jc-denton | build from source, or use a packet? |
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| 11:51.59 | jc-denton | i'm unsure cos i also have to patch the kernel |
| 11:52.00 | abrotman | damnit .. 5 minute s.. still at 16! |
| 11:52.07 | abrotman | !find xen |
| 11:52.09 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'xen' (15 of 92): gtk-engines-xenophilia ;; kernel-image-2.4.25-xeno-p2 ;; kernel-image-2.4.25-xeno-p2-modules ;; kernel-patch-xen ;; libexene-smlnj ;; libjaxen-java ;; libroxen-123session ;; libroxen-adbanner ;; libroxen-asis ;; libroxen-calculator ;; libroxen-calendar ;; libroxen-cloakingdevice ;; libroxen-columnify ;; libroxen-deepleap ;; libroxen-diary. |
| 11:52.22 | abrotman | xeno-p2 ? |
| 11:52.35 | abrotman | maybe that's the patch |
| 11:52.46 | delire | out for lunch. |
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| 11:53.01 | abrotman | jc-denton: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/xen |
| 11:53.03 | Nigel | xen is a vm type thing IIRC |
| 11:54.17 | jc-denton | abrotman that's old |
| 11:54.23 | jc-denton | anyway i know how to search packages |
| 11:54.26 | abrotman | jc-denton: i dont' use it .. i was pointing it out |
| 11:54.30 | jc-denton | there is a newer version in experimental |
| 11:54.36 | abrotman | so install it ? |
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| 11:54.40 | jc-denton | but i probably build it better myself.. |
| 11:54.46 | jc-denton | not sure |
| 11:54.57 | jc-denton | does anybody here already run xen on deb? |
| 11:55.25 | jetscreamer | i have seen that exact question before |
| 11:56.27 | abrotman | jetscreamer: you lie! |
| 11:57.57 | abrotman | jetscreamer: no kidding |
| 11:58.01 | abrotman | resiak: it was on! |
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| 11:59.55 | tarzeau | jc-denton: i'd build it myself too |
| 11:59.58 | resiak | abrotman: So? DON'T LET YOUR MIND BE TAINTED! |
| 12:00.06 | fwest | is there an alternative to prelude ? |
| 12:00.22 | tarzeau | jc-denton: until there's a packaged patch and you prefer dpkg-mkpkg or whatever that tonguebreaker is called to rape kernels |
| 12:00.31 | resiak | fwest: Define "prelude" |
| 12:00.36 | jetscreamer | postlude? quaalude? |
| 12:00.44 | jc-denton | tarzeau: ok i'll build it in /opt |
| 12:00.45 | jc-denton | :) |
| 12:01.02 | fwest | resiak, the IDS frame work ? |
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| 12:01.21 | BoD_SWAT | Please help! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39116 (in search of a FTP client with SSL encrypted data channels) |
| 12:01.22 | tarzeau | jc-denton: BAH! |
| 12:01.32 | tarzeau | !ubuntu |
| 12:01.32 | dpkg | i heard ubuntu is ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879, or "Based on Debian" like Hollywood movies are "Based on a true story", or I'm not Debian but I play one on TV. |
| 12:01.36 | tarzeau | BoD_SWAT: go away |
| 12:01.41 | pusling | BoD_SWAT: try #ubuntu |
| 12:01.47 | resiak | fwest: Not a clue. I thought you might be talking about the Haskell Standard Prelude. :-) |
| 12:01.48 | tarzeau | BoD_SWAT: if you have debian, there's some really good ones (curl!) |
| 12:01.53 | jc-denton | ubuntu is cool |
| 12:01.58 | BoD_SWAT | tarzeau, pusling, I have a debian server :) |
| 12:02.02 | tarzeau | jc-denton: whatever, it's NOT debian |
| 12:02.15 | tarzeau | BoD_SWAT: was that question related to your debian server? |
| 12:02.20 | pusling | tarzeau: same shit, different flavour ;) |
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| 12:02.41 | BoD_SWAT | tarzeau, not really, but it's a general linux question which I can't find an answer to |
| 12:02.59 | jetscreamer | did you try ##linux? |
| 12:03.01 | tarzeau | BoD_SWAT: apt-cache search ftp ssl ? |
| 12:03.09 | BoD_SWAT | not yet |
| 12:03.12 | resiak | jc-denton: Yes, but it's not Debian. :) |
| 12:03.16 | resiak | !polls |
| 12:03.16 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 12:03.28 | abrotman | !tell jc-denton about stow |
| 12:03.33 | BoD_SWAT | tarzeau, I only need a working FTP SSL client (with encrypted data channels) |
| 12:03.43 | BoD_SWAT | somehow that doesn't exist for linux |
| 12:04.18 | abrotman | scp |
| 12:04.19 | BoD_SWAT | on my server I use VSFTPd, which supports that encryption...... yet.... there's no client :( |
| 12:05.12 | abrotman | ftp-ssl - The FTP client with SSL encryption support |
| 12:05.14 | abrotman | works for me .. |
| 12:05.15 | abrotman | next |
| 12:05.20 | jetscreamer | your google-fu sucks |
| 12:05.22 | jetscreamer | http://www.usinglinux.org/ftp/bsdftpd-ssl.html |
| 12:05.49 | BoD_SWAT | abrotman, thnx, I'll try it :D |
| 12:05.50 | technos | *bangs his head on the desk* |
| 12:05.53 | jetscreamer | http://www.google.com/linux?q=FTP+SSL+client+with+encrypted+data+channels&restrict=linux |
| 12:06.00 | jc-denton | i just use rm -rf /opt/app if i want to del something |
| 12:06.43 | abrotman | jc-denton: ok |
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| 12:07.04 | tarzeau | BoD_SWAT: do some apt-cache search ftp ssl |
| 12:07.09 | llama32 | anyone know if there are there any really small open source smalltalk interpreters? |
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| 12:08.10 | tarzeau | llama32: heh, ask in #gnustep ? |
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| 12:09.20 | technos | Grr.. Somehow removing STI framebuffer support from the kernel didn't clear up the bug the kernel hits when it goes to init it. |
| 12:10.30 | shingouz | groceries, i hate going out for groceries but i guess i have to do it :p |
| 12:10.44 | jetscreamer | i hate going anywhere |
| 12:11.07 | jetscreamer | hey have your groceries delivered |
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| 12:11.15 | abrotman | shingouz: send the woman! |
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| 12:11.19 | shingouz | jetscreamer: i can tell. do you have the same problem that i do? burst into flames in daylight? ;) |
| 12:11.29 | jetscreamer | he has no woman his breath stinks |
| 12:11.30 | kc2 | does any1 know how to get xglx going on debian ? |
| 12:11.32 | BoD_SWAT | tarzeau, abrotman, thank you guys :D:D:D:D |
| 12:11.35 | shingouz | abrotman: i had a dpkg --autopurge wife last week |
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| 12:11.46 | technos | Buy instant ramen in bulk from an internet grocer. Then all you need is one of those USB powered ramen cookers. |
| 12:11.50 | abrotman | shingouz: no chance for reinstall ? |
| 12:12.02 | tarzeau | BoD_SWAT: omg newts and dragons! |
| 12:12.08 | shingouz | abrotman: probably not. i havent lost hope though but probably not |
| 12:12.14 | abrotman | shingouz: sorry |
| 12:12.19 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 12:12.30 | jetscreamer | or :) whichever is applicable |
| 12:12.33 | abrotman | shingouz: on the bright side .. less nagnag :) |
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| 12:12.45 | shingouz | abrotman, jetscreamer: i'll survive. luckily i have had some interruptions lately |
| 12:12.55 | abrotman | shingouz: like .. TV! |
| 12:12.56 | shingouz | she never nagged... maybe she had a bug that way |
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| 12:13.06 | abrotman | !pt |
| 12:13.06 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 12:13.11 | yacoob | greetings, folks. |
| 12:13.13 | jetscreamer | !br |
| 12:13.14 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 12:13.30 | shingouz | abrotman: there are other things than tv you know.... not everytyhing has to be digital |
| 12:13.39 | abrotman | shingouz: your tv is digital ? |
| 12:13.52 | shingouz | abrotman: just the cable and i sucks |
| 12:13.54 | yacoob | woot, new stable upcoming 8) |
| 12:13.56 | yacoob | it |
| 12:13.57 | shingouz | s/i/it |
| 12:13.59 | abrotman | shingouz: i know there are other things .. i play a good bit of guitar :) |
| 12:14.03 | yacoob | it's been, like, three years? :D |
| 12:14.20 | shingouz | abrotman: so you do not do tar in cli then? ;) |
| 12:14.34 | abrotman | shingouz: is there any other way ? |
| 12:14.39 | abrotman | damn you! |
| 12:14.41 | abrotman | guitar! |
| 12:14.45 | shingouz | abrotman: search for guitar |
| 12:14.49 | jetscreamer | you have a peavey trainer |
| 12:14.50 | abrotman | shingouz: i know what it is |
| 12:14.56 | shingouz | :) |
| 12:14.56 | yacoob | s/guitar/dueling banjo/ :) |
| 12:15.24 | jetscreamer | peavy |
| 12:15.37 | shingouz | anyways, i need to hit the store for somethign edible. and a crapload of caffeine, sunday is coming |
| 12:15.41 | abrotman | two washburns, uhm .. a garcia .. and a small Crate amp |
| 12:15.43 | jetscreamer | !worship gibson & marshall |
| 12:15.43 | shingouz | bbiab |
| 12:15.57 | shingouz | !worship nikon |
| 12:16.08 | abrotman | jetscreamer: next one is intended to be a 12 string martin |
| 12:16.17 | yacoob | !worship noone |
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| 12:16.19 | lewis | i get a daily e-mail from /etc/cron.daily/logrotate saying: error: apache:11 unexpected log filename |
| 12:16.24 | lewis | any ideas? |
| 12:16.28 | yacoob | have some proud. |
| 12:16.36 | abrotman | lewis: sounds like a bad filename :) |
| 12:16.42 | jetscreamer | i had a crate a long time ago, one of those heavy ass bastards built like a crate |
| 12:16.47 | yacoob | lewis: hmm. check the logs, perhaps something is wrong there. |
| 12:16.56 | abrotman | jetscreamer: just a little one .. don't play electric much |
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| 12:17.20 | lewis | well, I do have a /var/log/apache/access.log and error.log |
| 12:17.27 | abrotman | lewis: also check your logrotate conf file for apache |
| 12:17.42 | jetscreamer | laterz, workieworkie ethic |
| 12:17.54 | abrotman | ew |
| 12:18.02 | lewis | logrotate.conf has a 'include logrotate.d/' part in it. and there is a special apache file in /etc/logrotate.d/apache |
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| 12:18.08 | yacoob | lewis: I'd suspect two cases: 1/ logrotate is finding some log file that he don't know what to do with |
| 12:18.26 | yacoob | or 2/ you've got some crap in the log directory, perhaps ls -l and look for I/O error? |
| 12:18.29 | lewis | i edited the /etc/logrotate.d/apache file to add some scripts in it. |
| 12:19.18 | liable | lewis: apache11 or apacheII |
| 12:19.26 | abrotman | doesn't know what to do with? .. it would ignore |
| 12:19.40 | lewis | error: apache:11 unexpected log filename - is the exact line from the e-mail |
| 12:19.58 | abrotman | check the logrotate conf file for apache |
| 12:20.14 | liable | check your confs and scripts you made |
| 12:20.18 | lewis | the logrotate.conf file has include /etc/logrotate.d |
| 12:20.22 | technos | Probably a typo on line 11 of it. :) |
| 12:20.28 | lewis | ah... |
| 12:21.00 | lewis | technos: that is quite clever. line 11 has the first line of the script command. |
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| 12:21.42 | lewis | i think I included a line space when I should'nt have, and didn't add 'endscripts' - let me check |
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| 12:22.21 | abrotman | still 16 RC bugs! |
| 12:23.08 | lewis | ah - I think I found the problem. anyway I can run cron.daily now, or should I just wait? |
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| 12:23.33 | gravity | I only count 10 |
| 12:23.37 | Knight_Lord | Does anyone have a solution for the problem of migrating an nfs server from one computer to the other without shutting down all the clients? If so i would like to listen to it. |
| 12:23.47 | abrotman | gravity: bugs.debian.org/release-crtical |
| 12:23.54 | gravity | abrotman: http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?ignore=sid&new=5&refresh=900 |
| 12:24.09 | abrotman | gravity: yeah .. i figure the graph thing is a bit behind |
| 12:24.17 | Knight_Lord | Right now i always have to reboot all the clients |
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| 12:24.26 | gravity | The page I pointed you to is the one that you can get rid of bugs just affecting sid |
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| 12:24.46 | abrotman | gravity: it also only does newer than 5 days |
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| 12:24.58 | gravity | abrotman: You can tell it not to |
| 12:25.08 | abrotman | gravity: and then it defaults to 7 :) |
| 12:25.10 | gravity | I have it not ignoring new bugs |
| 12:25.43 | lewis | ok - while I am here, might as well ask about my problem from yesterday. I have been trying to get ssh keys to work, so that I can connect from one machine to another via SSH without a password. I have followed many guides without success, and -ddd at the remote end doesn't give much, and neither does -vvv on the client end. I can however ssh locally without the need for a password. |
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| 12:26.03 | abrotman | gravity: regardless .. i think the other page needs to get to 0 before release |
| 12:26.16 | gravity | abrotman: Why? Some of those bugs are only in unstable and will remain in unstable |
| 12:26.33 | abrotman | gravity: Number concerning the next release (excluding ignored and not-in-testing): 16 |
| 12:26.38 | abrotman | gravity: from that page |
| 12:26.48 | gravity | hrm |
| 12:26.54 | abrotman | i can read .. i thnik |
| 12:26.56 | abrotman | think |
| 12:26.58 | abrotman | tink |
| 12:27.01 | abrotman | bah |
| 12:27.07 | gravity | It probably includes non-us |
| 12:27.12 | technos | abrotman: Your typing needs work though |
| 12:27.15 | abrotman | there is no non-us for sarge |
| 12:27.29 | abrotman | technos: i actually can barely see my monitor :) |
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| 12:28.10 | gravity | Meh... non-us isn't totally dead yet |
| 12:28.20 | abrotman | gravity: it's empty :) |
| 12:28.40 | paulswm | !fruitsmite Phated |
| 12:28.51 | abrotman | do eet again |
| 12:29.05 | technos | abrotman: Ever consider piping your log to sphinx? :) |
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| 12:29.24 | technos | abrotman: Err, Festival. |
| 12:29.26 | abrotman | technos: no .. i usually wear the damn things |
| 12:29.42 | abrotman | technos: i just know that i have to go get a shower .. then go do laundry |
| 12:29.46 | abrotman | then try to avoid sex |
| 12:29.49 | abrotman | erm .. |
| 12:29.54 | liable | eh |
| 12:29.55 | abrotman | yes .. i'm crazy |
| 12:30.10 | abrotman | i'm trusting resiak to keep me under control |
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| 12:30.24 | technos | abrotman: Why not just get the sex out of the way now.. I mean, you don't have to see her and you're going to hose the stank off in a minute anyway.. |
| 12:30.41 | abrotman | technos: good plan |
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| 12:32.23 | abrotman | gravity: are you still confused by the discrepancy ? |
| 12:32.35 | gravity | abrotman: Do you know what it is? |
| 12:32.41 | gravity | I stopped looking |
| 12:32.50 | abrotman | gravity: i think some of them are just really old bugs |
| 12:33.01 | sanxiyn | Have anyone tried building Fedora Directory Server on Debian? |
| 12:33.06 | abrotman | we should ask damog :) |
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| 12:33.14 | zefred | where is the patch to view it? www.site.com/awstats/awstats.pl? |
| 12:33.23 | gravity | abrotman: Why would damog know? |
| 12:33.24 | abrotman | bastard probably drank too much tequila last night |
| 12:33.30 | abrotman | gravity: he knows things |
| 12:33.39 | abrotman | gravity: or ask overfiend |
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| 12:33.43 | abrotman | he should know :) |
| 12:33.49 | gravity | abrotman: Are you just name dropping? |
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| 12:34.00 | abrotman | gravity: no .. damog does seem to know odd things ... |
| 12:34.03 | abrotman | and overfiend is the DPL |
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| 12:34.33 | abrotman | gravity: damog has not passed the DAM yet though .. but seems pretty involved |
| 12:34.36 | gravity | abrotman: Well, the turzimmer page lists what it shows at the top. It's probably a pseudo-package thing |
| 12:34.58 | lewis | once sarge becomes stable (in a few days), will there be many updates thereafter? |
| 12:35.15 | gravity | And I see 4 bugs on the bugs.debian.org/r-c page for main-non-us |
| 12:35.24 | abrotman | gravity: why woudl i name drop? .. i mean .. i can just have resiak kill the people! |
| 12:35.29 | gravity | Which would not be counted on the turzimmer page |
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| 12:35.45 | gravity | And a non-free-non-us bug |
| 12:35.48 | gravity | That's 5 |
| 12:35.52 | abrotman | gravity: heh .. if you check the remove,psedo .. way more than 16 |
| 12:36.07 | gravity | Not sure where that last bug is. Probably just something recently closed |
| 12:37.19 | abrotman | gravity: so how many? |
| 12:37.21 | abrotman | 15? :) |
| 12:37.26 | gravity | 10 |
| 12:37.30 | abrotman | 10 real ones |
| 12:38.06 | abrotman | still 15 or so somewhere |
| 12:38.17 | gravity | No one's bothering with non-us |
| 12:38.28 | gravity | And the pseudo-package one is probably the d-i bug that needed to be downgraded |
| 12:38.36 | abrotman | it will never release!!! |
| 12:38.38 | abrotman | yay |
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| 12:38.54 | abrotman | so sad that xorg could have made it in .. easily |
| 12:38.57 | Shay | !tell Haribo_ about root |
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| 12:39.09 | gravity | Not if no one was going to do the work |
| 12:39.12 | abrotman | Shay: he already has been told |
| 12:39.21 | abrotman | gravity: afaik .. work is done already .. |
| 12:39.29 | abrotman | gravity: you can get the /debian for xorg |
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| 12:39.39 | gravity | abrotman: It has to be checked |
| 12:39.45 | gravity | And the rest of the archive has to work with it |
| 12:39.51 | gravity | Ubuntu broke a lot of stuff making changes. |
| 12:39.59 | sanxiyn | Well, xorg could be uploaded to experimental? |
| 12:40.07 | gravity | sanxiyn: That's what's going to happen, asap |
| 12:40.10 | abrotman | gravity: yes .. no shit .. but it could have been done .. what .. 18 months ago ? :) |
| 12:40.15 | sanxiyn | gravity: Nice to hear that. |
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| 12:40.19 | gravity | abrotman: True, but it was a good decision at the time |
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| 12:40.26 | abrotman | gravity: yeah .. i know |
| 12:40.26 | Shay | Haribo_: better |
| 12:40.26 | Shay | heh |
| 12:40.41 | Haribo_ | didn't quite think there. just installed the client :P |
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| 12:41.51 | rixth | How do I add new resolutions to X? |
| 12:42.13 | Phated | !drxx rixth |
| 12:42.14 | dpkg | rixth: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 12:43.11 | rixth | Thanks |
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| 12:47.26 | llama32 | is lisp still used? it seems sorta... crappy... |
| 12:47.44 | asg | llama32: it's still used and is fundamental for emacs hackery |
| 12:47.47 | gravity | People adore lisp |
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| 12:48.06 | sanxiyn | llama32: Lisp is alive and well. |
| 12:48.40 | viyyer | why doesn't moinmoin-common package install the moinmoin python package ... very strange |
| 12:49.14 | sanxiyn | viyyer: Huh? it does. |
| 12:49.15 | llama32 | thanks as, gravity, sanxiyn |
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| 12:49.21 | llama32 | *asg |
| 12:49.23 | viyyer | moinmoin-common package doesn't contain a setup.py file either wierd |
| 12:49.40 | sanxiyn | viyyer: moinmoin-common recommends python-moinmoin. |
| 12:49.45 | paulswm | adore lisp? |
| 12:49.54 | paulswm | !ganjasmite gravity |
| 12:49.59 | viyyer | sanxiyn, import MoinMoin doesn't work |
| 12:50.01 | viyyer | aah |
| 12:50.06 | sanxiyn | viyyer: Since you aren't buliding or installing things, setup.py is not in Debian package. |
| 12:50.14 | abrotman | there are like .. tons of crap in lisp |
| 12:50.22 | abrotman | like .. the Linux kenrel is in lisp |
| 12:50.24 | paulswm | Yeah, like the language |
| 12:50.34 | paulswm | !kenrel |
| 12:50.37 | viyyer | how dumb of.. |
| 12:50.37 | sanxiyn | Like... Javascript was initially written in Lisp. |
| 12:50.38 | viyyer | me |
| 12:50.49 | abrotman | sanxiyn: it shows :) |
| 12:50.55 | Phated | There'sth one ethample of crap in lithp already. |
| 12:51.06 | paulswm | Which just goes to show that shit multplies |
| 12:51.12 | abrotman | Phated: crapth ? |
| 12:51.19 | abrotman | crathp ? |
| 12:51.21 | Phated | No. |
| 12:51.50 | sanxiyn | I used to like CLISP and MetaCVS -- well Subversion rules. |
| 12:52.13 | sanxiyn | Lisp certainly has very advanced compiler technologies. |
| 12:52.15 | llama32 | what would be a good interpreted language to base a small GUI system around? |
| 12:52.32 | liable | hehe |
| 12:52.33 | sanxiyn | llama32: Python. :-) |
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| 12:52.49 | Phated | Ith not. Lazy basthtard. |
| 12:52.51 | technos | I always liked Forth. |
| 12:53.11 | sanxiyn | technos: Which Forth? |
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| 12:53.23 | paulswm | Yeth it ith. You Thingaporean lithper, you :) |
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| 12:53.27 | liable | !lispthsmite phated |
| 12:53.30 | gravity | ruby |
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| 12:54.01 | kaiowa | hi, could i do to open an app that when i launch it open maximized?? |
| 12:54.01 | abrotman | gravity: are you a ruby person ? |
| 12:54.03 | sanxiyn | Python rules. :-) |
| 12:54.05 | gravity | abrotman: Yeah |
| 12:54.09 | sanxiyn | !start language war |
| 12:54.12 | Phated | Notithe how I have cleverly avoided lithping. |
| 12:54.16 | abrotman | gravity: did you see the ruby primer with the funny illustrations ? |
| 12:54.18 | theD3viL | How can i mount cdrom with win-1250 encoding? PLEASE HELP! |
| 12:54.23 | technos | sanxiyn: Not sure which variant it was. Ran on a Motorola debug controller an ex-employer made, was just heavy duty enough to do whatever you wanted without cruft. |
| 12:54.24 | gravity | abrotman: Yeah, but I haven't read the whole thing. |
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| 12:54.36 | abrotman | gravity: with the cats and stuff . it was pretty funny |
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| 12:54.48 | gravity | He also wrote the yaml lib, so it's got kind of weird docs too |
| 12:54.55 | abrotman | heh |
| 12:55.04 | paulswm | !chocolate |
| 12:55.04 | dpkg | from memory, chocolate is the food of the gods |
| 12:55.14 | sanxiyn | !god |
| 12:55.15 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, god is See 'beer'. |
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| 12:55.21 | paulswm | heh |
| 12:55.21 | jethro | !beer |
| 12:55.21 | dpkg | from memory, beer is liquid gold mate |
| 12:55.28 | Phated | Chocolate is the food of liquid gold mate? |
| 12:55.30 | abrotman | !crap |
| 12:55.30 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, crap is if its not crap, its hilarious |
| 12:55.33 | paulswm | Yes! |
| 12:55.34 | sanxiyn | What a useless craps. |
| 12:55.36 | jethro | heh |
| 12:55.44 | abrotman | !useless factoids |
| 12:55.44 | dpkg | Every time you create a useless factoid, God kills a kurumin user |
| 12:55.53 | Phated | Well, then. |
| 12:55.54 | sanxiyn | Is that good? |
| 12:55.54 | liable | excellent |
| 12:55.54 | paulswm | !singlishsmite abrotman |
| 12:55.55 | dpkg | abrotman: Say some more, lah! Like I care! |
| 12:55.58 | abrotman | !useless factoids |
| 12:55.58 | dpkg | Every time you create a useless factoid, God kills a knoppix user |
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| 12:56.02 | dan2 | abrotman: whats so great about ruby? |
| 12:56.04 | Phated | Also good. |
| 12:56.10 | abrotman | dan2: no .. the manual was funny |
| 12:56.18 | tavo | hi i'm tavo |
| 12:56.23 | abrotman | gravity: you have the url ? |
| 12:56.27 | sanxiyn | Ruby is great because you don't need to manage memory yourself. |
| 12:56.35 | gravity | abrotman: "why's poigniant guide to ruby" |
| 12:56.35 | jethro | !say hi tavo, asl ? |
| 12:56.35 | sanxiyn | Same for Python, Java. |
| 12:56.36 | tavo | i'm spanish |
| 12:56.36 | dpkg | hi tavo, asl |
| 12:56.41 | gravity | (don't recall the url) |
| 12:56.55 | paulswm | asl? |
| 12:56.58 | tavo | I'm spanish |
| 12:57.00 | sanxiyn | http://poignantguide.net/ruby/ |
| 12:57.02 | gravity | !es |
| 12:57.02 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:57.06 | Phated | paulswm: You know not asl? |
| 12:57.14 | paulswm | !asl |
| 12:57.15 | dpkg | paulswm, American Sign Language isn't very useful on Internet Relay Chat Old enough, Yes please, My place. above sea level |
| 12:57.15 | jethro | !tell paulswm -about asl |
| 12:57.23 | paulswm | Git it |
| 12:57.27 | paulswm | Got it |
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| 12:57.54 | abrotman | dan2: http://poignantguide.net/ruby/ .. read it ! |
| 12:57.56 | tavo | can you speak spanish??? |
| 12:57.59 | paulswm | Phated: I know not, indeed. |
| 12:58.03 | suman | hi all |
| 12:58.04 | jethro | tavo: no, in #debian-es they can |
| 12:58.08 | abrotman | !es |
| 12:58.08 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:58.14 | paulswm | tavo: ^^^^ |
| 12:58.22 | Phated | paulswm: AOLspeak for hi. "Age/Sex/Location?" |
| 12:58.25 | abrotman | resiak: why ? |
| 12:58.32 | abrotman | resiak: oh .. the sex thing |
| 12:58.33 | jethro | !aolify paulswm |
| 12:58.39 | paulswm | Phated: Oh, after my time :) |
| 12:58.45 | resiak | abrotman: Well, partly. |
| 12:58.45 | paulswm | !irritate jethro |
| 12:58.46 | dpkg | jethro: wenas how can I make my lindows werkz !!!! |
| 12:58.49 | Phated | paulswm: Replies are usually "Oppositeofyours/Yesplease/Nearyou." |
| 12:58.50 | jethro | heh |
| 12:58.50 | suman | what does the error "FAT: IO charset iso8859-1 not found" mean... i am getting this error whenever i try to load a FAT partition |
| 12:59.01 | paulswm | Ah |
| 12:59.24 | jethro | paulswm: followed by "you have a cam?" |
| 12:59.24 | tavo | I sometimes speak english |
| 12:59.24 | paulswm | Hah |
| 12:59.24 | abrotman | suman: guess you need to dpkg-reconfigure locales .. and pick that one eh ? |
| 12:59.24 | xerophyte | how can i exactly grep this sid:27 ... i tried grep -w sid:27 * that didnt work |
| 12:59.24 | tavo | no |
| 12:59.24 | jethro | paulswm: or whatever they spell it |
| 12:59.24 | Phated | paulswm: And then CYBAARRRR?!!11 |
| 12:59.30 | tavo | youhave a cam |
| 12:59.31 | Phated | jethro: "u hav cam?" |
| 12:59.32 | liable | suman: home rolled kernel? |
| 12:59.42 | jethro | Phated: heh |
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| 12:59.47 | Kingmilo | hey guys. |
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| 12:59.56 | tavo | how old are you?? |
| 13:00.01 | Phated | See? :) |
| 13:00.02 | paulswm | Mine would be something like, "Looking for woman with truck, please send picture of truck." |
| 13:00.08 | Kingmilo | how would i update my env vari. if i make changes to ~./bashrc and ~/.profile ? :) |
| 13:00.12 | resiak | tavo: 13, female, california. |
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| 13:00.27 | liable | resiak: wanna meet? |
| 13:00.31 | tavo | I live in almeria |
| 13:00.32 | liable | :) |
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| 13:00.38 | paulswm | resiak: Got a tutu? |
| 13:00.39 | abrotman | almeria ? |
| 13:00.40 | ahmetsar | türkçe yardım lütfen |
| 13:00.43 | abrotman | is that a country ? |
| 13:00.44 | suman | liable: yeah, i tried with the regular kernel but ended with an error saying size too big one fine day... so decided to use a homerolled one , which i had |
| 13:00.51 | tavo | I 11 years |
| 13:00.53 | resiak | liable: omg yes lolol my msn is fluffybunnygirl92@hotmail.com msg me!11! |
| 13:00.58 | gravity | tavo: Go to #debian-es |
| 13:01.02 | gravity | Please |
| 13:01.05 | abrotman | heh |
| 13:01.08 | paulswm | Now |
| 13:01.09 | liable | suman: well, you didnt include the codepage likely |
| 13:01.09 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: irritate resiak |
| 13:01.10 | dpkg | resiak: hi every1 who uses dvd lol |
| 13:01.11 | Phated | Or #debian-kids-es. |
| 13:01.17 | FieldySnuts | Phated: :) |
| 13:01.22 | suman | liable: what is a codepage? |
| 13:01.22 | ahmetsar | ubuntu hakkında |
| 13:01.22 | resiak | FieldySnuts: im serious its my msn!! |
| 13:01.23 | FieldySnuts | ow |
| 13:01.35 | FieldySnuts | resiak: asl??? |
| 13:01.42 | resiak | FieldySnuts: 13/f/cali ^_^ |
| 13:01.48 | FieldySnuts | ack system slow, tar xzf ing a 3.6GB tar.gz |
| 13:01.50 | paulswm | Heh |
| 13:02.00 | liable | suman: just try with the standard kernel again |
| 13:02.04 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: asl? |
| 13:02.04 | abrotman | resiak: cali ? |
| 13:02.05 | dpkg | fieldysnuts, American Sign Language isn't very useful on Internet Relay Chat Old enough, Yes please, My place. above sea level |
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| 13:02.10 | FieldySnuts | !asl |
| 13:02.10 | tavo | you have kopete |
| 13:02.11 | dpkg | fieldysnuts, American Sign Language isn't very useful on Internet Relay Chat Old enough, Yes please, My place. above sea level |
| 13:02.13 | FieldySnuts | hrm... |
| 13:02.15 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: asl? |
| 13:02.15 | ravenbird | fieldysnuts, American Sign Language isn't very useful on Internet Relay Chat Old enough, Yes please, My place. above sea level |
| 13:02.18 | FieldySnuts | nevermind |
| 13:02.21 | liable | resiak: message failed to deliver :( |
| 13:03.01 | Phated | RESIAK! Did you NOT check your mail at least once every 30 days? :| |
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| 13:04.00 | FieldySnuts | /dev/hde: ST3200822A: 48 C damnit i gotta tear my system apart and find out wtf is wrong, thats nuts it's usually 28 - 31 |
| 13:04.05 | FieldySnuts | lame. |
| 13:04.09 | tavo | you have kopete??? |
| 13:04.16 | asg | tavo: no, try #debian-kde |
| 13:04.31 | suman | liable: doesn't dpkg-reconfigure locales help? |
| 13:04.33 | resiak | liable: Amandah is online! |
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| 13:04.42 | tavo | I yes |
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| 13:04.51 | liable | resiak: heh |
| 13:05.02 | liable | suman: no, its a kernel module |
| 13:05.04 | schrankwand | does anyone know why famd had listen to a port? |
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| 13:05.09 | resiak | liable: It's true! She just talked to Phated! And got slapped! |
| 13:05.13 | sanxiyn | http://bugs.debian.org/265273 removed Mozilla Directory SDK because it's "not used any more by other packages" Hm. |
| 13:05.23 | liable | resiak: ohh, what channel |
| 13:05.25 | Phated | resiak: You need to check hotmail once at least a week to keep the account active. |
| 13:05.30 | resiak | liable: On MSN! |
| 13:05.36 | resiak | Phated: I do! |
| 13:05.37 | suman | liable: ok will do thanks... btw, the error did suggest a probable missing code page |
| 13:05.49 | resiak | Phated: Oh, wait. |
| 13:05.50 | Phated | resiak: Apparently NOT, if mail not delivered. |
| 13:06.00 | liable | suman: use standard kernel. come back with that error |
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| 13:06.37 | liable | resiak: I dont have msn :( can we meet :) |
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| 13:06.49 | FieldySnuts | liable is probably a cop :P |
| 13:06.54 | resiak | liable: omg yes |
| 13:06.57 | liable | damn |
| 13:06.58 | resiak | Phated: Point taken :-) |
| 13:07.00 | tarzeau | abrotman: feel bubbly? |
| 13:07.03 | liable | excellant |
| 13:07.12 | luulis | FieldySnuts: what are you using to display the temperature? I just use smartd and check /var/log/messages, it once a while updates temperature_celsius and its always around 120 :D |
| 13:07.14 | llama32 | what would be an easy but useful language to interpret? (im thinking basic or just some subset of C) |
| 13:07.17 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: irritate liable |
| 13:07.18 | dpkg | liable: HELP ME!!! how can I make my knoppix werkz !!!! |
| 13:07.23 | abrotman | tarzeau: gotta do laundry! |
| 13:07.29 | liable | !bite FieldySnuts |
| 13:07.36 | abrotman | tarzeau: and seeing as how i haven't even showered yet :) |
| 13:07.42 | Phated | !bite me |
| 13:07.45 | Phated | Woooo. |
| 13:07.52 | resiak | </channelspam> |
| 13:07.55 | FieldySnuts | luulis: hddtemp, if your stuff is around 120C you have major problems and a very short drive life ahead of you, if you meant F, that's high but not horrible |
| 13:08.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: you won't get into the dragon sky |
| 13:08.27 | Knight_Lord | luulis if it's 120K i must congratulate you for the cooling |
| 13:08.27 | FieldySnuts | !kill ide drives when making DVD images |
| 13:08.43 | abrotman | tarzeau: is that code for something ? |
| 13:08.48 | liable | hmm, that makes sense |
| 13:08.49 | FieldySnuts | haha |
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| 13:08.57 | FieldySnuts | sounds like a drug term "you won't get into the dragon sky" |
| 13:09.08 | tarzeau | abrotman: when you die, you either get to the sky or to hell |
| 13:09.09 | luulis | FieldySnuts: it shows temperature_celsius in logs but those drives i have definately arent that hot :D |
| 13:09.20 | tarzeau | abrotman: maybe my english sucks |
| 13:09.24 | FieldySnuts | yeah i guess that could be wrong |
| 13:09.29 | abrotman | tarzeau: yes .. but .. the dragon sky ? |
| 13:09.30 | resiak | liable: my hotmali wrx agen! |
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| 13:09.44 | Knight_Lord | luulis maybe it's an american celsius |
| 13:09.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: well aren't those dragons in http://bub-n-bros.sf.net ? |
| 13:09.52 | tavo | how is california?? |
| 13:09.57 | liable | resiak: kthx w1l m3g u |
| 13:10.00 | abrotman | tarzeau: i wouldn't say dragons |
| 13:10.04 | paulswm | !qotd125 |
| 13:10.04 | jethro | tarzeau: heaven/hell |
| 13:10.04 | dpkg | from memory, qotd125 is <exobyte> California should steal .ca from canada <exobyte> our state flower causes people to fail drug tests. how kick ass is that?! |
| 13:10.10 | luulis | Knight_Lord: american celsius ? :P |
| 13:10.10 | tarzeau | jethro: awww, i meant heaven |
| 13:10.16 | jethro | tarzeau: :) |
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| 13:10.29 | abrotman | resiak: why ur h0tmail borken ? |
| 13:10.38 | FieldySnuts | freaks. |
| 13:10.41 | tarzeau | jethro: you join, right? |
| 13:10.44 | jha | how do i drop all tables from a mysql database? |
| 13:10.45 | resiak | abrotman: i ddnt chx it 4 30 dayz =[ |
| 13:10.50 | jethro | tarzeau: in a minute |
| 13:10.53 | abrotman | resiak: lam4r |
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| 13:11.02 | FieldySnuts | jha: a google search can find that. go find out |
| 13:11.14 | asg | jha: parse the output of mysqlshow and use a loop to feed said output to mysqladmin |
| 13:11.17 | paulswm | !prize FieldySnuts |
| 13:11.21 | resiak | abrotman: omg yes |
| 13:11.23 | asg | jha: try #mysql for other options |
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| 13:11.40 | jha | asg: is there nothing like drop table 8; ??? |
| 13:11.47 | jha | s/8/* |
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| 13:11.48 | abrotman | resiak: asg thinks ur cootie! |
| 13:11.54 | paulswm | Yay, asg is here! |
| 13:11.55 | liable | hehe |
| 13:11.56 | resiak | abrotman: omg |
| 13:11.59 | tarzeau | anyone is invited to join http://bub-n-bros.sf.net and #bub-n-bros |
| 13:12.02 | FieldySnuts | !fgi mysql drop tables |
| 13:12.02 | dpkg | mysql: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=drop tables |
| 13:12.08 | tavo | hehe |
| 13:12.09 | asg | jha: oh, sorry. for just dropping tables from a single database, just drop the database and recreate it. |
| 13:12.11 | FieldySnuts | er |
| 13:12.11 | paulswm | Good one Fieldy |
| 13:12.19 | tavo | bye |
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| 13:12.22 | FieldySnuts | !fgi jha mysql drop tables |
| 13:12.23 | dpkg | jha: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=mysql drop tables |
| 13:12.25 | jha | asg: i do not have the permissions |
| 13:12.26 | abrotman | or fucking shit .. ASK #mysql maybe ? |
| 13:12.31 | abrotman | there would be the smart thing to do |
| 13:12.35 | paulswm | Indeed |
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| 13:12.39 | abrotman | since they acutally use that horrid piece of shit |
| 13:12.42 | asg | jha: then getting the permissions is really the first thing you need. |
| 13:12.47 | tavo | byebye |
| 13:12.51 | FieldySnuts | actually that URL needs %20 in place of spaces after = |
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| 13:13.46 | paulswm | !be mysql barbie |
| 13:13.47 | dpkg | reading the README.Debian is HARD! |
| 13:13.50 | FieldySnuts | hah |
| 13:14.04 | FieldySnuts | Let's go shopping instead! |
| 13:14.10 | paulswm | HAHA |
| 13:14.30 | FieldySnuts | apt_: start a database war |
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| 13:14.41 | FieldySnuts | uh wrong key |
| 13:14.45 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: start a db war |
| 13:14.46 | ravenbird | MySQL is better than Berkeley db |
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| 13:15.13 | FieldySnuts | at least someone spelt berkeley right |
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| 13:15.40 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: who spells it wrong ? |
| 13:15.41 | Nolius | where is the packahe wishlist for the debian project? |
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| 13:16.09 | Knight_Lord | abrotman what Berkley? |
| 13:16.12 | Nolius | sorry: the package wishlist |
| 13:16.24 | abrotman | ok |
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| 13:16.34 | FieldySnuts | !strangle Knight_Lord |
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| 13:16.58 | paulswm | Cool, I didn't know dpkg was a strangler |
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| 13:17.40 | tavo | hi |
| 13:17.50 | paulswm | *sigh* |
| 13:17.59 | daesotho | hi |
| 13:18.03 | tavo | hello |
| 13:18.08 | FieldySnuts | , |
| 13:18.16 | daesotho | whats up tavo? |
| 13:18.51 | paulswm | daesotho: he is like 11 and shouldn't be here |
| 13:19.11 | daesotho | why don't we like 11yrolds? |
| 13:19.13 | tavo | how is california? |
| 13:19.21 | FieldySnuts | turing test? a bot? |
| 13:19.26 | paulswm | daesotho: You'll see. |
| 13:19.28 | FieldySnuts | tavo: what is the refridgerator? |
| 13:19.38 | FieldySnuts | !dict refridgerator |
| 13:19.40 | dpkg | could not find definition for refridgerator |
| 13:19.43 | FieldySnuts | bleh |
| 13:19.55 | liable | hah, you had me fucked then too :) |
| 13:19.59 | asg | FieldySnuts: lose the d |
| 13:20.03 | paulswm | FieldySnuts: You may actually be right |
| 13:20.05 | FieldySnuts | nehh. |
| 13:20.17 | FieldySnuts | tavo: what time is it on NBC? |
| 13:20.32 | asg | tavo: yo quiero taco bell? |
| 13:20.35 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 13:20.36 | joel_ | !fuck liable |
| 13:20.42 | paulswm | No, I looked back, I don't think it's a bot |
| 13:20.46 | liable | why thank you joel |
| 13:21.13 | joel_ | ;) |
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| 13:21.16 | tavo | 17:11 o'clock |
| 13:21.21 | liable | tavo: wanna meet? |
| 13:21.31 | daesotho | 17:11 o'clock? |
| 13:21.39 | daesotho | ?? |
| 13:21.56 | daesotho | o'clock for hours |
| 13:22.16 | daesotho | your not programmed well tavo. |
| 13:22.20 | liable | tavo: what are you? |
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| 13:24.25 | asg | liable: just tell him to buy this http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=489 |
| 13:25.15 | tavo | I'm sorry |
| 13:25.28 | tavo | I speak spanish |
| 13:25.44 | asg | !es |
| 13:25.45 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:25.47 | asg | tavo: ^^^ |
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| 13:25.52 | liable | asg: hehe, I like how it says up to 5XL :) |
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| 13:26.05 | asg | liable: yeah, they have some good ones. |
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| 13:26.18 | liable | tavo: /j #debian-es |
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| 13:27.18 | schrankwand | I use xampp with linux and I want to prevent that the http-, https-, ftp- and mysql-server are reachable from the network |
| 13:27.33 | LordMicr0 | hi@all |
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| 13:28.15 | asg | schrankwand: xampp? |
| 13:28.24 | schrankwand | yes |
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| 13:28.51 | schrankwand | resp. lampp |
| 13:29.02 | llama32 | anyone know of a small BASIC interpreter? i dont mind if its line numbers based or doesnt have floating point, just want a small one :) |
| 13:29.08 | asg | schrankwand: we don't support that here. Try their website or forums. |
| 13:29.09 | xdamaga | schrankwand dl a firewall |
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| 13:29.39 | xdamaga | schrankwand a firewall is to protect you from the evil net |
| 13:29.58 | LoneTech | llama32: maybe yabasic will do? |
| 13:29.59 | LordMicr0 | so is this the official Debian channel ? |
| 13:30.07 | liable | no |
| 13:30.09 | asg | LordMicr0: yes |
| 13:30.22 | liable | err, yes :) |
| 13:30.27 | LordMicr0 | ... |
| 13:30.32 | liable | hehe |
| 13:30.34 | schrankwand | isn't there away to say a daemon that he sould only listen to requests that comes from the own machine? |
| 13:30.45 | asg | schrankwand: yes |
| 13:30.53 | LoneTech | llama32: or bwbasic. both found using "apt-cache search basic interpreter". |
| 13:31.06 | asg | schrankwand: /etc/apache/httpd.conf or /etc/apache/ports.conf (depending on if you use woody or sarge) |
| 13:31.10 | tavo | bye |
| 13:31.23 | tavo | good bye |
| 13:31.26 | schrankwand | well thanks |
| 13:32.12 | LordMicr0 | how can i install an application in a custom folder using apt-get ? |
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| 13:33.27 | liable | LordMicr0: why do you want to? |
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| 13:33.56 | sly007 | Does anyone use fluxbox? I'd like to hide XMMS icon, I wrote [app] (XMMS_Player) |
| 13:33.56 | sly007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.56 | sly007 | [end] |
| 13:33.56 | sly007 | , but it doesn't work. Any idea? |
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| 13:34.05 | LordMicr0 | low HD space |
| 13:34.35 | liable | apt-get clean? |
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| 13:34.56 | sly007 | Does anyone use fluxbox? I'd like to hide XMMS icon, I wrote [app] (XMMS_Player) [IconHidden] {yes}[end] but it doesn't work. Any idea? |
| 13:35.01 | asg | sly007: try #fluxbox |
| 13:35.12 | sly007 | join #fluxbox |
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| 13:35.51 | liable | its silly, but I always laugh when that happens |
| 13:36.13 | LordMicr0 | no that's not the point, i mean is there kinda tool for installing .debs in custom folders ? |
| 13:36.18 | asg | liable: rectal seepage? |
| 13:36.24 | helios | sorry for my english: I was rushing on my prompt (silly me!) and just stopped in time an "rm -rf /etc"...but I deleted all /etc/init* files and dirs |
| 13:36.44 | paulswm | !folders |
| 13:36.44 | dpkg | in non-moronic language, directories |
| 13:36.54 | asg | helios: restore from backups. |
| 13:37.01 | helios | any way to get my system back with any debian cd? |
| 13:37.11 | liable | asg: no, rectal seepage *isnt* something to laugh about, and that wasnt what I was talking about anyway. |
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| 13:37.24 | helios | asg, backups? |
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| 13:37.32 | paulswm | o.O |
| 13:37.57 | paulswm | !qotd81 |
| 13:37.58 | dpkg | <ricky_clarkson> kinema: Always back up your data. <kinema> ricky_clarkson: interesting idea. i think i'll do that. |
| 13:38.17 | asg | helios: /msg dpkg reinstall (however, you will manually have to use dpkg after downloading all debs with the --force-confmiss options. Better just to backup what you have now and reinstall) |
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| 13:38.40 | liable | helios: wtf were you doing rm -rf in /etc anyway? |
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| 13:38.54 | LordMicr0 | damn, this proxy sucks :| i'm not anonymous anymore |
| 13:39.10 | helios | liable, "rm -rf /etc/vmware" to reinstall vmware |
| 13:39.20 | helios | but the tab tricked me |
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| 13:40.08 | joel_ | KjetilK: kjetil! in uno :) |
| 13:40.50 | KjetilK | hi joel! |
| 13:41.07 | LordMicr0 | is there something like Loki installer for debian packages ? |
| 13:41.22 | gandy909 | When Sarge becomes the new stable, will a Woody syatem become a Sarge system with a simple 'apt-get upgrade'? |
| 13:41.42 | zOap | KjetilK, do you think Kjetil is a good name? What about Ketil? Naah, I don't like it either |
| 13:41.50 | drac | gandy909: dist-upgrade to get everything covered, but basically yes. |
| 13:41.55 | KjetilK | zOap: sure it is! |
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| 13:42.06 | paulswm | gandy909: apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:42.12 | zOap | KjetilK, , yeah, I thought so:) me too |
| 13:42.32 | berzerka | is there already a new testing codename? |
| 13:42.48 | Phated | berzerka: etch. |
| 13:42.49 | paulswm | berzerka: It will be etch |
| 13:43.16 | Phated | The ETCH-a-sketch? |
| 13:43.23 | KjetilK | I see stuff like this in my snort statistics: 46.67 7 217.77.32.186 (portscan) TCP Portsweep |
| 13:43.39 | KjetilK | where 217.77.32.186 is the originating host, and is my box |
| 13:43.50 | KjetilK | anyone know what does this and why? |
| 13:44.04 | asg | KjetilK: try #snort |
| 13:44.17 | liable | the hax0r that p0wns your box |
| 13:44.26 | KjetilK | heh |
| 13:44.26 | FieldySnuts | !hack KjetilK |
| 13:44.37 | KjetilK | LOL |
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| 13:44.59 | LordMicr0 | on my way |
| 13:45.01 | KjetilK | FieldySnuts would be disappointed... :-) |
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| 13:45.14 | KjetilK | there aren't a lot of people in #snort usually |
| 13:45.14 | berzerka | so if i have testing standing in my sources.list instead of sarge, will i automatically have the etch system as soon as sarge becomes stable? or isnt it a good idea to do the upgrade that way? |
| 13:45.37 | liable | yes and prolly no |
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| 13:46.04 | Phated | Things will get messy, for sure. |
| 13:46.19 | asg | KjetilK: 57 people right now |
| 13:46.24 | berzerka | so you mean change it to sarge, and if i want the upgrade, change the entries to etch and do a dist-upgrade? |
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| 13:46.50 | KjetilK | asg: yup, I'll try there |
| 13:46.51 | LordMicr0 | :> |
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| 13:47.27 | berzerka | well i think thats the cleanest way to do it.. |
| 13:47.30 | liable | berzerka: yeah, probably best to wait a bit, but then again, if no-one upgrades immediately, then the bugs wont get fixed, so, upgrade immediately :) |
| 13:47.42 | KjetilK | but I guess it is not actually a problem with snort |
| 13:48.14 | berzerka | liable, i will in any case :) |
| 13:48.24 | liable | good :) |
| 13:48.40 | liable | let me know when its running smoothly. :) |
| 13:48.45 | berzerka | hehe yep |
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| 13:51.50 | Trewas | etch will be initially equal to sarge anyway so there won't be any drastic change when etch is started |
| 13:52.15 | adaran | if i want to concatenate multiple pages (in ps format) to a single ps (or pdf) file, what utility would i need? |
| 13:52.28 | Trewas | though of course lots of new packages will come soon afterwards |
| 13:52.44 | zOap | I like etch, etch is a good name for a debian release. But does anyone know where it's originated from? |
| 13:52.53 | gravity | zOap: toy story |
| 13:53.00 | gravity | Like all the others |
| 13:53.03 | byomekanoid | join /debian brasil |
| 13:53.31 | zOap | gravity, ooh, did NOT know that:) always wonderred where they came up with those:) |
| 13:54.01 | liable | byomekanoid: /j #debian-br :) |
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| 13:55.19 | byomekanoid | thanks liable |
| 13:55.38 | liable | asg: so, had rectal leakage? |
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| 13:55.44 | liable | byomekanoid: np |
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| 13:56.19 | asg | liable: no |
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| 13:57.11 | liable | hmm, thought you had an amusing anectdote to tell :) |
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| 13:58.07 | asg | liable: well, a friend once had a McStuffin that affected him so viciously that he shat on the ceiling and had to hide in the stall until we could go home and get him a new set of pants. |
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| 13:58.12 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know of a great TV Tuner program except TvTime? |
| 13:58.28 | asg | liable: more explosive than seepage though |
| 13:59.14 | GreekGirl | dont tell me this is a helping channel..... |
| 13:59.20 | LoneTech | GreekGirl: isn't afaict, more flaming. |
| 13:59.25 | asg | GreekGirl: it is |
| 13:59.32 | liable | asg: hehe, ahh, thats pretty good, yes heard a story of a friend who had way to many guinesses, and a similar story, in the toilet of the girl that he just picked up, had me in stiches for hours. |
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| 13:59.35 | GreekGirl | wow wee.... |
| 13:59.42 | GreekGirl | this shall be fun... |
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| 13:59.49 | FieldySnuts | @troll GreekGirl |
| 13:59.52 | GreekGirl | i need help actually |
| 14:00.00 | Phated | GreekGirl: Ask away. |
| 14:00.01 | FieldySnuts | GreekGirl: which is fine.. but you have to tell us what about |
| 14:00.05 | GreekGirl | im a troll? |
| 14:00.14 | asg | liable: hah |
| 14:00.20 | GreekGirl | well thanks people |
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| 14:00.29 | FieldySnuts | !! |
| 14:00.29 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 14:00.31 | gravity | GreekGirl: Just ask pleas |
| 14:00.46 | liable | asg: said the only place there wasnt shit was the light bulb. :) |
| 14:00.47 | GreekGirl | how do you people do them things? |
| 14:00.56 | FieldySnuts | !vague |
| 14:00.56 | dpkg | Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
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| 14:01.05 | asg | liable: ouch |
| 14:01.11 | liable | yes |
| 14:01.17 | paulswm | With soap and vegetable oil, of curse |
| 14:01.21 | paulswm | course |
| 14:01.35 | zOap | who talked about soap?!! Gr |
| 14:01.44 | paulswm | :D |
| 14:01.46 | GreekGirl | lol |
| 14:01.57 | Phated | "hi i have a prob but im not explainin it and im goin 2 use werds lik ur and ne and make my abbs of your stupid complicated jargon" |
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| 14:02.12 | FieldySnuts | Phated: hehe |
| 14:02.15 | paulswm | Phated: goondu |
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| 14:02.18 | Phated | Whoever wrote that factoid should be shot. |
| 14:02.21 | resiak | What the fuck. |
| 14:02.26 | FieldySnuts | what an annoyance |
| 14:02.28 | Phated | resiak! |
| 14:02.35 | liable | aww, look you made her leave |
| 14:02.35 | Phated | What annoyance? |
| 14:02.39 | Phated | Hurrah. |
| 14:02.39 | paulswm | But entrtaining, nevertheless. |
| 14:02.40 | FieldySnuts | GreekGirl |
| 14:02.45 | FieldySnuts | all that and leaves |
| 14:02.48 | FieldySnuts | Phated: yay |
| 14:02.56 | FieldySnuts | hag (her) sorry |
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| 14:03.04 | Phated | I don't see why you complain, liable, you've had a girl here often enough. |
| 14:03.08 | Phated | FieldySnuts: :) |
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| 14:03.16 | FieldySnuts | Phated: ssh don't tell hehe |
| 14:03.29 | liable | Phated: but I cant get the email to go through :( |
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| 14:03.45 | FieldySnuts | uh oh |
| 14:03.45 | liable | oooh |
| 14:03.49 | FieldySnuts | i'm in trouble, darn |
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| 14:04.04 | Phated | !spank FieldySnuts |
| 14:04.08 | Phated | Wheee! |
| 14:04.21 | FieldySnuts | tsk |
| 14:04.50 | Phated | Feh, bored now. |
| 14:05.03 | Phated | Bring GG back, we need to spank her, too. |
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| 14:05.11 | liable | break out the hitachi :) |
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| 14:05.26 | Phated | How bourgeois. |
| 14:05.33 | FieldySnuts | !nickometer xXx_lUvGiRl_xXx |
| 14:05.33 | dpkg | 'xXx_lUvGiRl_xXx' is 99.975% lame, fieldysnuts |
| 14:05.36 | xXx_lUvGiRl_xXx | !win me |
| 14:05.37 | FieldySnuts | yowser. |
| 14:05.37 | dpkg | Congratulations, xxx_luvgirl_xxx! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
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| 14:07.04 | TwistedEmotions | !test |
| 14:07.04 | dpkg | No, twistedemotions, you're not online any more. |
| 14:07.19 | lewis | I have been trying to get ssh keys to work, so that I can connect from one machine to another via SSH without a password. I have followed many guides without success, and -ddd at the remote end doesn't give much, and neither does -vvv on the client end. I can however ssh locally without the need for a password. Any tips? |
| 14:07.32 | liable | !ignore TwistedEmotions |
| 14:07.39 | FieldySnuts | heh |
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| 14:07.48 | Phated | Well. |
| 14:07.51 | Phated | !spank dpkg |
| 14:07.57 | FieldySnuts | oh my |
| 14:08.01 | Phated | Gleeeeep, dpkg has sex-changed! |
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| 14:08.07 | TwistedEmotions | liable: thanks. ;P I love you too. |
| 14:08.13 | Phated | How DOES she do it? |
| 14:08.38 | Phated | Heh. |
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| 14:08.46 | paulswm | !gender |
| 14:08.47 | dpkg | I'm male |
| 14:08.54 | FieldySnuts | @gender |
| 14:08.55 | ravenbird | I'm lesbian |
| 14:08.57 | FieldySnuts | hah |
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| 14:09.03 | drac | ~gender |
| 14:09.04 | apt | I'm gay |
| 14:09.06 | FieldySnuts | how is that a gender heh |
| 14:09.06 | paulswm | !gender |
| 14:09.07 | dpkg | I'm pregnant |
| 14:09.07 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 14:09.09 | FieldySnuts | !gay |
| 14:09.10 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
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| 14:09.30 | idnar | !pregnant |
| 14:09.30 | dpkg | Yes, idnar, and it's your child. |
| 14:09.35 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 14:09.35 | idnar | bwahaha |
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| 14:09.36 | liable | /dpkg is seriously confused as to its gender |
| 14:09.38 | Phated | You know, if a girl fantasised about men and enjoyed anal stimulation... |
| 14:09.41 | LoneTech | doesn't gay mean happy? |
| 14:09.47 | FieldySnuts | @spank Phated |
| 14:09.48 | resiak | LoneTech: Yes. |
| 14:09.52 | Phated | Would she be gay? |
| 14:09.57 | giupy | hi all |
| 14:10.05 | FieldySnuts | naughty Phated |
| 14:10.13 | Phated | I'm gaaaaay! |
| 14:10.16 | Phated | Wheeeee! |
| 14:10.21 | FieldySnuts | reallly. |
| 14:10.34 | liable | wtf, that gay factoid is fucking out there. |
| 14:10.34 | resiak | mess-mate: Yes. |
| 14:10.34 | paulswm | mess-mate: debian channel if that's what you mean |
| 14:10.37 | Phated | Minorly, I think. As far as biting you too often. |
| 14:10.39 | xdamage | Phated does that make you a better person ? |
| 14:10.49 | FieldySnuts | hehe |
| 14:10.50 | Phated | xdamage: Who caaaares, I got a girl right heeeere. |
| 14:11.01 | resiak | mess-mate: It may look like an erotic discussion channel, but it's not. |
| 14:11.03 | FieldySnuts | yes i mean no |
| 14:11.15 | resiak | mess-mate: Stop starting everything with /me ... |
| 14:11.21 | Phated | mess-mate: You can talk out of actions now. |
| 14:11.24 | FieldySnuts | !actionsmite |
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| 14:12.35 | mess-mate | Ahh.., ok. Typing without any command ? |
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| 14:12.46 | liable | yes |
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| 14:12.49 | zOap | mess-mate, much better |
| 14:13.03 | adadeh | kokopjjhobkjhbc |
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| 14:13.20 | Phated | For hell's sake, it's not Sunday YET! |
| 14:13.28 | adadeh | adaapa dengan kuh |
| 14:13.38 | liable | adadeh: english? |
| 14:13.38 | mess-mate | is there a doc ( resume) about the commands to printout ? |
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| 14:14.04 | zOap | mess-mate, ALL commands in terminal???? |
| 14:14.06 | mess-mate | well, not yet :) |
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| 14:14.25 | goldfish | anyone know of a better window manager for cli than screen - i am trying to find one that has tabs |
| 14:14.38 | LoneTech | mess-mate: there are many books around, for instance the "linux bible" iirc is a hardcopy of some howtos and man pages. |
| 14:14.41 | Phated | twin does windows. |
| 14:14.47 | adadeh | ljljhhfhfPNVPBPY[[r0uuur |
| 14:15.13 | jethro | adadeh: stop that |
| 14:15.16 | mess-mate | Ok, not a newbie about linux, irssi yes. |
| 14:15.22 | LoneTech | sakura, you are allowed to stop the dadaism. |
| 14:15.22 | zOap | jethro, ignore him |
| 14:15.54 | luulis | goldfish: well, there's terminal emulators with tabs.. |
| 14:16.22 | helios | I'm backing up all of my data, how may I have the same packages after re-installing Debian? Which are the necessaries files related to apt I have to back-up too? |
| 14:16.23 | goldfish | i am after one for using via ssh |
| 14:16.29 | Phated | Fluxbox does tabbed windows. :) |
| 14:17.01 | goldfish | without X |
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| 14:17.13 | Phated | Twin does windows, without tabs. |
| 14:17.36 | helios | shit, I really messed everything, no /etc/fstab etc...all this with those 2 sec of "rm -rf /etc"...:( |
| 14:17.37 | mess-mate | helios: setselections ? |
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| 14:17.57 | luulis | goldfish: i havent heard of such thing, could you just use tabbed terminal emulator with multiple ssh sessions on? or if you dont use X at all, perhaps multiple ssh sessions on different virtual terminals on console? |
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| 14:18.27 | thomas_adam | helios: You should have just done a straight package dump, and backed up /etc, and the like. |
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| 14:18.58 | goldfish | yeah - it would be so usefull if something like screen had tabs |
| 14:19.01 | helios | thomas_adam, I'm regretting it now |
| 14:19.07 | thomas_adam | LoneTech: Why do you want a hardcopy of those -- they're usually in a state of flux. |
| 14:19.20 | goldfish | i think that is what i will have to continue doing though |
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| 14:19.55 | thomas_adam | !tell helios -about debian clone |
| 14:19.57 | goldfish | i am installing twin to take a look at that |
| 14:20.04 | thomas_adam | goldfish: It's very buggy. |
| 14:20.18 | thomas_adam | goldfish: It also doesn't handle locale definitions very well. |
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| 14:20.25 | ulala | hi |
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| 14:20.31 | thomas_adam | IMO, 'screen' is the better "WM" in this instance. |
| 14:20.34 | ulala | cu |
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| 14:21.19 | thomas_adam | goldfish: What is it you're after, anyway? |
| 14:21.20 | LoneTech | thomas_adam: well, I had it long before I had net access. |
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| 14:21.42 | jetscreamer | !be a urdic barbie |
| 14:21.43 | dpkg | Aww, urdic is hard! Let's go shopping, jetscreamer |
| 14:21.44 | thomas_adam | LoneTech: I know a lot of cover CDs used to, and presumably still do, ship with the HOWTOs... |
| 14:22.02 | jetscreamer | i have no life |
| 14:22.10 | LoneTech | I didn't pick the book |
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| 14:22.25 | LoneTech | it just appeared to be an answer to some question |
| 14:22.31 | paulswm | jetscreamer: lives are expensive and overrated |
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| 14:22.54 | thomas_adam | LoneTech: Which question was that? |
| 14:23.00 | jetscreamer | and take up too much time? |
| 14:23.02 | LoneTech | never mind, I forgot. |
| 14:23.10 | thomas_adam | Must have been important, then. |
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| 14:23.21 | LoneTech | quite |
| 14:23.34 | nvz | well, looks like my hd may be alright after all.. I got it back in my pc now and its not acted up so far. I think all the drive cables are bad in my cousin's pc |
| 14:23.38 | paulswm | jetscreamer: Yes, you have to do stuff like socialize with people and you're not allowed to wander round in your underwear. |
| 14:24.30 | nvz | I've got enough things to be upset about.. I don't need my hd dying on me at a young age. |
| 14:24.34 | Wille88_ | I'm trying to do make menuconfig, but it says this: arch/i386/Kconfig:513: can't open file "kernel/Kconfig.preempt" |
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| 14:25.20 | thomas_adam | Wille88_: What export lines did you run before that? |
| 14:25.29 | liable | Wille88: you doing this with kde? |
| 14:25.41 | Wille88_ | thomas_adam: export lines? |
| 14:25.53 | Wille88_ | liable: no. I don't have kde |
| 14:26.17 | berzerka | thunderbirds displays 'all' messages which i compose in the color i selected for display of html messages. is that correct? |
| 14:26.45 | jetscreamer | Wille88: is this virgin source? |
| 14:26.50 | thomas_adam | berzerka: Perhaps. |
| 14:27.08 | Wille88_ | I'm just trying to compile my kernel. I untarred/bziped the kernel and tried to do make menuconfig |
| 14:27.08 | berzerka | thomas_adam, thanks :) |
| 14:27.25 | Wille88_ | jetscreamer: Do you mean vanilla? |
| 14:27.30 | thomas_adam | Wille88_: Do you have build-essential and friends installed? |
| 14:27.37 | liable | Wille88: pastebin, the whole command |
| 14:27.45 | Wille88_ | thomas_adam: yes |
| 14:27.46 | jetscreamer | you used tar xvjf ? willie i mean clean, like make clean |
| 14:27.57 | Wille88_ | liable: sudo make menuconfig |
| 14:28.11 | Wille88_ | jetscreamer: yes |
| 14:28.17 | thomas_adam | sudo? |
| 14:28.21 | thomas_adam | tut tut. |
| 14:28.50 | jetscreamer | i only do the root thing when compiling |
| 14:29.04 | jetscreamer | and i'm in the src group |
| 14:29.07 | paulswm | Don't use root for compiling kernels, it's unneccessary if you set the perms right and use fakeroot |
| 14:29.15 | jetscreamer | yeah yeah i know |
| 14:29.18 | liable | dont let people here you say that |
| 14:29.21 | liable | haha |
| 14:29.28 | jetscreamer | i know that too :) |
| 14:29.31 | liable | !root |
| 14:29.31 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 14:29.41 | liable | blah |
| 14:29.41 | thomas_adam | liable: /msg dpkg, please. |
| 14:29.44 | paulswm | !beat jetscreamer for using root to compile kernels |
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| 14:29.50 | liable | yeah right |
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| 14:30.04 | jetscreamer | i take many chances, but calculated ones |
| 14:30.21 | liable | thomas_adam: wasnt doing it for my benefit |
| 14:30.35 | FieldySnuts | !what does thomas_adam pay you for? |
| 14:30.36 | dpkg | sometimes thomas_adam pays me for genital shaving, fieldysnuts, but I've really had enough... |
| 14:30.41 | thomas_adam | Ha. |
| 14:30.43 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 14:30.45 | FieldySnuts | :) |
| 14:30.49 | liable | hahahah |
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| 14:30.52 | kullanici | drweb 8269 0.0 0.5 7988 5908 ? Ss Jun02 0:00 /opt/drweb/drwebd |
| 14:30.52 | paulswm | jetscreamer: When he's here, for a brief lecture from scarynetworkguy, say "I just use telnet on my LAN because I'm behind a firewall." :P |
| 14:31.16 | jetscreamer | :) |
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| 14:32.21 | goldfish | thomas_adam: twin is similar to what i was looking for - prob a bit of overkill - i was just after something along the lines of links for consoles |
| 14:32.39 | thomas_adam | goldfish: links? |
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| 14:33.16 | goldfish | like lynx but with menus an mouse support |
| 14:33.18 | kullanici | how can i close drweb ? |
| 14:33.24 | thomas_adam | goldfish: elinks, then. |
| 14:33.28 | kullanici | when i try to kill it.. sh: kill: (8274) - Operation not permitted |
| 14:33.29 | FieldySnuts | man killall |
| 14:33.30 | thomas_adam | kullanici: killsll drweb |
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| 14:33.45 | FieldySnuts | you have to be the drweb user, or root, to do it. |
| 14:33.50 | paulswm | kullanici: sudo kill, then |
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| 14:34.00 | Void_main_voiD | Anyone here use Hula on Debian? |
| 14:34.01 | paulswm | What FieldySnuts said. |
| 14:34.02 | thomas_adam | goldfish: elinks has mouse support, LUA support, tabbed-browsing, etc, etc. |
| 14:34.06 | kullanici | euheuhe sorry |
| 14:34.24 | thomas_adam | Void_main_voiD: That's a poll, got a question? |
| 14:34.27 | goldfish | yeah same thing |
| 14:34.32 | Void_main_voiD | sure do |
| 14:34.39 | thomas_adam | goldfish: No, different 'thing'. |
| 14:34.42 | goldfish | depends on the distro what they call it |
| 14:34.49 | Void_main_voiD | Was looking for more inforation on backup and recovery of Hula |
| 14:34.52 | neoxite | hi, i've written a small init-script, but i dont know how to detach it from the console when it gets started like "myscript start", any ideas? |
| 14:35.00 | thomas_adam | goldfish: But how does that tie in with twin? |
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| 14:35.07 | resiak | What the hell... X just fell over, and I have "Fuck yah. Core dumped." at the end of my .xsession-errors :-\ |
| 14:35.15 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 14:35.29 | thomas_adam | neoxite: What does this script do? |
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| 14:35.56 | paulswm | resiak: Did X fall, or was it pushed? Like were you doing something? |
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| 14:36.22 | neoxite | thomas_adam: it starts an ssh-tunnel in an infinite loop, should the tunnel die |
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| 14:36.36 | resiak | paulswm: I was closing my Gaim window. The error's from Openbox -- I just grepped the source. |
| 14:36.43 | thomas_adam | neoxite: Nasty. |
| 14:37.15 | paulswm | resiak: Phew, that 'Fuck yah." did look worrying, as in malevolent. |
| 14:37.16 | neoxite | thomas_adam: nasty to come with or nasty to detach? |
| 14:37.29 | thomas_adam | neoxite: Bit of both -- why at init? |
| 14:37.41 | goldfish | thomas_adam: dont worry |
| 14:37.53 | neoxite | thomas_adam, i want it started at system bootup |
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| 14:38.16 | lewis | thomas_adam: my favourite buddy. |
| 14:38.21 | resiak | paulswm: Yeah. |
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| 14:38.25 | tarzeau | paulswm: working? |
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| 14:38.41 | FieldySnuts | !kill ##channels (##freebsd in this case, joining #freebsd redirects to there, lame) |
| 14:38.42 | schrankwand | cu |
| 14:38.49 | lewis | thomas_adam: my only issue at the moment, is SSH keys, for password-less rsync usuage. |
| 14:38.59 | paulswm | tarzeau: No, but not bulling, I have some dev work of my own which I wish to do today :) |
| 14:39.04 | thomas_adam | lewis: There's stacks of tutorials out there... |
| 14:39.07 | paulswm | s/bull/bubble/ |
| 14:39.11 | paulswm | s/bull/bubbl/ |
| 14:39.18 | thomas_adam | neoxite: How are you doing it at the moment? |
| 14:39.48 | tarzeau | paulswm: you should really do something for you joy , instead of working so much |
| 14:39.57 | FieldySnuts | amen |
| 14:40.04 | lewis | thomas_adam: yeh - I have tried quite a few without any luck, and will find a new one today. My problem is that it always asks for a password for remote connections, though I can SSH locally without needing a password. |
| 14:40.25 | paulswm | resiak: Wrote to Openbox developers and say "Which wanker decided to construct an error mesage which looks like a hacker's message?" |
| 14:40.25 | thomas_adam | lewis: Give an example. |
| 14:40.32 | paulswm | s/Wrote/Write/ |
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| 14:40.40 | trygvebw | Hi |
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| 14:40.48 | resiak | paulswm: I'm gonna mosey on over to their IRC channel, actually. |
| 14:40.48 | trygvebw | Question about package making: |
| 14:41.05 | neoxite | thomas_adam: in the start case it starts the ssh session under its own user. it also works fine exactly how i want it |
| 14:41.18 | trygvebw | I've made a change to the debian/control file, how do i rebuild the package? |
| 14:41.29 | FieldySnuts | gahh, #openbox redirects to ##unavailable |
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| 14:42.01 | paulswm | trygvebw: debian Reference Manual may help you out. |
| 14:42.17 | trygvebw | paulswm: where is it? |
| 14:42.26 | neoxite | thomas_adam: i just need a bash instruction or something that will instantly detach this script |
| 14:42.27 | lewis | thomas_adam: on machine1, I'll 'ssh-keygen -t rsa'. I'll then scp id_rsa.pub to machine2, and in user/.ssh/, cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys. on machine1, with 'ssh -i id_rsa user@machine2', it asked for a pass. |
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| 14:42.36 | FieldySnuts | !fgi trygvebw debian%20reference%20manual |
| 14:42.37 | dpkg | trygvebw: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=debian%20reference%20manual |
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| 14:42.48 | trygvebw | thanks :) |
| 14:42.52 | tavo | hi |
| 14:42.55 | lewis | thomas_adam: if authorized_keys is on machine1, and I 'ssh -i id_rsa localhost', no pass is asked for. |
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| 14:43.09 | tavo | hello |
| 14:43.16 | tavo | I'm tavo |
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| 14:43.22 | Fatal | hello |
| 14:43.22 | FieldySnuts | god not again |
| 14:43.25 | tarzeau | tavo: do you have a homepage? |
| 14:43.28 | Fatal | I'm not |
| 14:43.29 | liable | tavo: go away |
| 14:43.31 | FieldySnuts | tavo: what are you? |
| 14:43.32 | tarzeau | tavo: and where's your pet? |
| 14:43.46 | FieldySnuts | tavo: nslookup warez.dal.net |
| 14:43.50 | paulswm | It's a package (apt-cache search debian-reference) and it's on the web site |
| 14:43.52 | tavo | I have a dog and a cat |
| 14:43.55 | dvs | tavo: al-anon is that way ----------> |
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| 14:44.01 | FieldySnuts | HEHEHEHE |
| 14:44.02 | tarzeau | paulswm: that's a qotd? no "<tavo> hello\n<tavo> i'm tavo" |
| 14:44.07 | tarzeau | LOL |
| 14:44.08 | paulswm | trygvebw: It's a package (apt-cache search debian-reference) and it's on the web site |
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| 14:44.12 | tarzeau | paulswm: and i have a dog and a cat |
| 14:44.18 | FieldySnuts | !irritate tavo |
| 14:44.18 | trygvebw | paulswm: ok |
| 14:44.19 | dpkg | tavo: hi every1 who uses cable kk |
| 14:44.34 | paulswm | tarzeau: It's an 11 yr old kid |
| 14:44.46 | FieldySnuts | gotta hand it to the parents, nice letting your kid on irc |
| 14:44.49 | paulswm | tarzeau: qotd125 |
| 14:44.55 | tarzeau | !qotd125 |
| 14:44.55 | dpkg | i heard qotd125 is <exobyte> California should steal .ca from canada <exobyte> our state flower causes people to fail drug tests. how kick ass is that?! |
| 14:44.59 | paulswm | :D |
| 14:45.00 | tavo | i not understand |
| 14:45.06 | colter | I'm running sarge. debsums for /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/modules.dep failed, any idea why this could be? |
| 14:45.13 | trygvebw | what has Tavo done? |
| 14:45.24 | zOap | colter, download again |
| 14:45.38 | tarzeau | trygvebw: said hi, i'm tavo, and i have a dog and a cat |
| 14:45.44 | trygvebw | Oo |
| 14:45.55 | FieldySnuts | trygvebw: please don't msg me, I don't know you |
| 14:46.01 | FieldySnuts | eh screw it, another ignore entry. anyone else? |
| 14:46.02 | paulswm | tarzeau: OK, I will have to qotd it |
| 14:46.12 | dvs | me please |
| 14:46.19 | FieldySnuts | want me to ignor eyou? |
| 14:46.20 | paulswm | !irritate FieldySnuts |
| 14:46.20 | liable | !ignore me |
| 14:46.21 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: wenas who uses kde thx |
| 14:46.23 | FieldySnuts | lol |
| 14:46.32 | dvs | ;-) |
| 14:46.34 | colter | z0ap: shouldn't aptitude warn during install if the checksum for an installed package fails? |
| 14:46.44 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: irritate test |
| 14:46.44 | ravenbird | test: HELP ME!!! how does I run teh grafixx windows ????? |
| 14:46.55 | liable | hah |
| 14:46.57 | lewis | thomas_adam: maybe I should do a test, with a passphrase on the keys. |
| 14:47.00 | Fatal | o_O |
| 14:47.08 | thomas_adam | Blasted netsplits. |
| 14:47.08 | FieldySnuts | apt_: annoy test |
| 14:47.12 | FieldySnuts | hrm. ok |
| 14:47.22 | FieldySnuts | anyway enough bot wanking |
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| 14:47.38 | llama32 | how do i check my network uptime[s]? |
| 14:47.56 | FieldySnuts | what's a network uptime? |
| 14:47.59 | zOap | colter, Aah, through aptitude? That's weird |
| 14:48.03 | thomas_adam | neoxite: You'll have to either exec the ssh process, or call the actuall init script indirectly with 'nohup'. You can't do it from within. |
| 14:48.20 | paulswm | Heh, that is a good phrase, "bot wanking" |
| 14:48.21 | TwistedEmotions | Trying to install mythtv... I think there is something wrong with mysql settings or something... 2005-06-04 07:51:45.926 Driver error was [1/1045]: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| 14:48.21 | TwistedEmotions | Database error was: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| 14:48.39 | TwistedEmotions | How do I fix that? |
| 14:48.47 | llama32 | FieldySnuts: as in how long ive been connected to each network connection (eg my dialup connection) |
| 14:48.54 | paulswm | FieldySnuts: "I thought Wanking was a city in China until I discovered dpkg" |
| 14:48.54 | sparr_x4 | took all day yesterday, but I finally got RAID working |
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| 14:49.02 | FieldySnuts | er. |
| 14:49.08 | sparr_x4 | tonight i actually get to move my data over to the new drives |
| 14:49.17 | zOap | colter, but try to find the package through apt-get. that's more safe than downloading a deb package... |
| 14:49.20 | FieldySnuts | i should do software raid1 again, the speed was nic |
| 14:49.22 | dvs | !beer sparr_x4 |
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| 14:49.26 | xdamage | TwistedEmotions wrong password maybe ? |
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| 14:49.38 | sparr_x4 | FieldySnuts: you mean raid0? raid1 is slower |
| 14:49.50 | TwistedEmotions | xdamage: do you know how to setup sql passwords? |
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| 14:49.52 | FieldySnuts | no it was 1, i will never use 0, it's not raid at all, doesn't belong |
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| 14:49.59 | xdamage | TwistedEmotions yes |
| 14:50.02 | FieldySnuts | was a lot faster than a single drive |
| 14:50.11 | xdamage | TwistedEmotions mysql -u root ? |
| 14:50.11 | sparr_x4 | raid 1 is faster for reading, slower for writing |
| 14:50.21 | FieldySnuts | it was faster for both for me, shrug |
| 14:50.27 | sparr_x4 | unless youve got magical drive controllers :) |
| 14:50.29 | FieldySnuts | just don't feel like picking up a second 200GB drive... |
| 14:50.41 | colter | z0ap: i'll try |
| 14:50.45 | paulswm | sparr_x4: Shouldn't be if you have the drives on different controllers |
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| 14:51.13 | zOap | People, this is a support channel, take your bullshit to #bullshit |
| 14:51.15 | sparr_x4 | paulswm: why? all of the data is written to every disk, at best it will be the same speed as writing it all to one disk, at worst there is overhead |
| 14:51.22 | FieldySnuts | 90MB/s sustained reads and 50MB/s sustained writes were common |
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| 14:51.26 | FieldySnuts | @stfu zOap |
| 14:51.27 | ravenbird | SHUT THE FUCK UP zOap! |
| 14:51.31 | TwistedEmotions | xdamage: ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)? |
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| 14:51.47 | xtension | TwistedEmotions maybe you have set a root password |
| 14:51.49 | zOap | FieldySnuts, yeah, :) |
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| 14:51.55 | paulswm | !singlishsmite zOap |
| 14:51.56 | dpkg | zOap: Ah, shaddup lah. You all fart and no shit only. |
| 14:52.00 | paulswm | :D |
| 14:52.05 | FieldySnuts | this is a discussion channel as the notice you get when you join says |
| 14:52.10 | FieldySnuts | if we feel like supporting, we will |
| 14:52.12 | TwistedEmotions | xtension: is there a reconfigure command for sql? |
| 14:52.27 | xtension | TwistedEmotions apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server |
| 14:52.43 | FieldySnuts | telling us what to do generally puts you in the "don't want to help this person" category pretty fast |
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| 14:52.44 | xtension | TwistedEmotions dont know oterhwise |
| 14:52.44 | zOap | yeh yeah... |
| 14:52.47 | TwistedEmotions | xtension: thanks |
| 14:52.53 | FieldySnuts | so have fun! |
| 14:53.05 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: aussiesmite? |
| 14:53.28 | tarzeau | takatumi: THAT WERE MY DIAMONDS! |
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| 14:53.32 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: aussiesmite is <reply> $1: oi there ya (dingo|sheila|dunny door)! |
| 14:53.32 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: okay |
| 14:53.40 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: aussiesmite Phated |
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| 14:53.46 | FieldySnuts | damn it i don't know wtf i'm doing |
| 14:53.47 | Phated | Oi! |
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| 14:53.58 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: forget aussiesmite |
| 14:53.58 | Phated | dpkg forget aussiesmite |
| 14:53.58 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: i forgot aussiesmite |
| 14:54.06 | FieldySnuts | :( |
| 14:54.11 | xtension | tarzeau i dl that new game ... it gives an XLib error |
| 14:54.14 | bernouli | what is wrong with this command route add -net 10.128.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 eth0 |
| 14:54.18 | Phated | dpkg: aussiesmite $1 is <reply> $1: oi there ya (dingo|sheila|dunny door)! |
| 14:54.19 | dpkg | Phated: okay |
| 14:54.24 | Phated | !aussiesmite FieldySnuts |
| 14:54.25 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: oi there ya sheila! |
| 14:54.25 | tarzeau | xtension: got xlib-dev ? |
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| 14:54.27 | FieldySnuts | your netmask is badgered. try 255.255.0.0 instead |
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| 14:54.41 | FieldySnuts | ah okay |
| 14:54.43 | tarzeau | xtension: or you mean supertransball2? |
| 14:54.48 | FieldySnuts | i'll extend it later :) |
| 14:54.52 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: forget aussiesmite |
| 14:54.52 | bernouli | 255.255.0.0 works |
| 14:54.53 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: i didn't have anything called 'aussiesmite' to forget |
| 14:54.56 | bernouli | why? |
| 14:54.59 | Phated | <sigh> |
| 14:55.06 | FieldySnuts | read about subnetting etc, i don't feel like explaining it |
| 14:55.06 | tavo | bye |
| 14:55.07 | liable | aussiesmite? |
| 14:55.09 | Phated | dpkg, forget cmd: aussiesmite (.*?) |
| 14:55.10 | dpkg | i forgot CMD: aussiesmite (.*?), Phated |
| 14:55.13 | Phated | There. |
| 14:55.16 | dvs | bernouli: Because the 128 part is outside the netmash |
| 14:55.16 | FieldySnuts | fuck |
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| 14:55.20 | FieldySnuts | thanks Phated |
| 14:55.28 | Phated | FieldySnuts: *hughug* Anytime, deary. |
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| 14:55.37 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: reward Phated |
| 14:55.43 | FieldySnuts | oi. |
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| 14:55.54 | xtension | tarzeau what package do i install for xlib-dev ? |
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| 14:56.19 | bernouli | i go here http://jodies.de/ipcalc it gave me 255.0.0.0 |
| 14:56.31 | xtension | tarzeau yes supertransball2 |
| 14:56.32 | FieldySnuts | it was wrong then or you fed it the wrong data |
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| 14:56.47 | thomas_adam | More people dicking with things they shouldn't. |
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| 14:57.02 | tarzeau | xtension: hwat error does it give you excatly? can you run using gdb? |
| 14:57.04 | bernouli | i gave 10.128.0.0/8 |
| 14:57.04 | zOap | FieldySnuts, I agree, and I agree to give trollers a bad time here. But what if you scare off some potential debian users, that would be sad, yeah? Lol, just janking your chain. |
| 14:57.15 | tarzeau | xtension: can you rebuild? i know there's a bug, i have the fix, just need to do it |
| 14:57.17 | thomas_adam | lewis: So you can do: ssh-askwhateveritis < /dev/null |
| 14:57.18 | lewis | thomas_adam: ooh - I made progress. |
| 14:57.28 | valdyn | xtension: xlibs-dev |
| 14:57.41 | FieldySnuts | zOap: if they can't take a little hazing, then maybe they should use a cute distro like redhat or some shit. |
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| 14:57.49 | helios | may I rescue all of my installed software, I mean not base-system packages while reinstalling Debian from a netinst iso image for example? |
| 14:57.54 | lewis | thomas_adam: perhaps it was caused by the remote user name having a - in it... or the remote username being different. |
| 14:57.57 | zOap | FieldySnuts, hehe, agree, RH sucks |
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| 14:58.12 | liable | helios: look at apt-zip |
| 14:58.14 | helios | may I just install the base system with a d-i? |
| 14:58.15 | lewis | thomas_adam: i managed to connect remotely with a passkey to the same username. I am going to try the same username without a passkey now. |
| 14:58.16 | thomas_adam | helios: /msg dpkg debian clone (for the second time) -- you'll get base no matter what, but that doesn't matter. |
| 14:58.27 | xtension | tarzeau Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server and freezes X |
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| 14:58.40 | thomas_adam | xtension: What are you trying to do? |
| 14:58.40 | liable | nite folks. |
| 14:58.55 | zOap | FieldySnuts, but the thing that surpriced me the most is that Linus is using RH... why Linus, why???? |
| 14:59.02 | tarzeau | xtension: ouf, that's bad |
| 14:59.08 | tarzeau | xtension: ahhh that's exactly the bug |
| 14:59.16 | tarzeau | xtension: can you get the source? |
| 14:59.25 | tarzeau | xtension: i have not enough memory for an strcat :) |
| 14:59.27 | tarzeau | xtension: lol |
| 14:59.36 | xtension | tarzeau whats the link again ? |
| 15:00.02 | lewis | thomas_adam: woohoo - I managed to connect without a password to the same username on the remote machine. All I have to do now, is try for the different username. |
| 15:00.04 | FieldySnuts | zOap: don't know, don't care |
| 15:00.12 | tarzeau | xtension: apt-get source supertransball2 |
| 15:00.15 | FieldySnuts | open source is about choice, don't bother others about it |
| 15:00.16 | tarzeau | xtension: and then edit the source ;) |
| 15:00.23 | thomas_adam | lewis: passphrases would be preferrable. |
| 15:00.27 | valdyn | bernouli: the 8 in this case means 255.0.0.0, thats your fault, not ipcalcas, your could have written the right thing: 10.128.0.0/16 |
| 15:00.30 | tarzeau | xtension: i didn't fix it yet ;) but bugs.debian.org/supertransball2 explains what's wrong more or less |
| 15:00.41 | xtension | tarzeau supertransball2 is already the newest version. |
| 15:00.50 | tarzeau | xtension: yes but it has a bug ;) |
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| 15:01.29 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: aussiesmite phated |
| 15:01.30 | dpkg | phated: yee bloody yank) |
| 15:01.33 | FieldySnuts | ok fixing |
| 15:01.40 | FieldySnuts | pleaes don't try to fix it for me |
| 15:01.50 | valdyn | zOap: linus isnt an admin, and he probably doesnt "use" distro features at all. |
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| 15:02.27 | zOap | valdyn, yeah, you may be right |
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| 15:03.07 | xtension | tarzeau eheh |
| 15:03.10 | lewis | thomas_adam: right - it is official. having a - in a username prevents ssh keys to work. |
| 15:03.31 | lewis | thomas_adam: I have found a bug, and I have solved my problem. I am happy. |
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| 15:03.37 | xtension | tarzeau so i guess i have to dl the src and debug it and build it ? |
| 15:03.49 | tarzeau | xtension: yes, but i can tell you how to fix it, very easy |
| 15:03.57 | tarzeau | xtension: just let me win this bubble bobble game |
| 15:04.00 | xtension | tarzeau ok |
| 15:04.02 | tarzeau | YAY! DOUBLE BUBBLE WINNER |
| 15:04.06 | zOap | valdyn, It may be RH which is just lamers. I don't like it, to much windoes |
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| 15:05.13 | PuGz | so... who here will be running debian stable when sarge is released? |
| 15:05.27 | tarzeau | PuGz: i will, at work (150 workstations) |
| 15:05.28 | xtension | tarzeau getting the src now |
| 15:05.30 | valdyn | !polls |
| 15:05.31 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 15:05.33 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: aussiesmite phated |
| 15:05.34 | dpkg | phated: yee bloody yank |
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| 15:05.41 | FieldySnuts | oh come on it keeps picking that one |
| 15:05.47 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: aussiesmite phated |
| 15:05.47 | dpkg | phated: godamnit mate it's about time i mow the brigalo suckers bloody hell |
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| 15:05.53 | mc_ | hi, what can i do if my nautilus need at least 2 minutes to open a directory? (cpu, hdd not in use) |
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| 15:05.58 | FieldySnuts | ok. happy now |
| 15:06.08 | PuGz | valdyn: so what is this channel for then... is it purely a help channel? |
| 15:06.16 | zOap | mc_, lol |
| 15:06.17 | FieldySnuts | discussion channel, if we wanna help we might |
| 15:06.25 | xtension | tarzeau youre a c progremmer ? |
| 15:06.29 | PuGz | can we discuss debian in any way? or is that what #windows is for? |
| 15:06.34 | mc_ | zOap, not lol |
| 15:06.37 | FieldySnuts | PuGz: trolling won't help you. |
| 15:06.37 | tarzeau | xtension: well yes i do sometimes. and objective-c |
| 15:06.51 | tarzeau | !windows |
| 15:06.51 | dpkg | i heard windows is from memory, windows is a 32 bit shell on a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system, originally designed for a 4 bit microprocessor, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition, or if it doesn't work there's this little button called "off" on your computer. praying helps too. es una mierda! :), or not on topic here, or see panic(3) |
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| 15:07.07 | PuGz | FieldySnuts: what do you mean by trolling? |
| 15:07.16 | zOap | mc_, yeah, I assume you're using gnome then... |
| 15:07.21 | mc_ | jes |
| 15:07.22 | asg | PuGz: read the jargon file |
| 15:07.25 | dvs | PuGz: Posting things just to get attention |
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| 15:08.03 | PuGz | dvs: meh... dont want attention... i am just saying... can we have casual conversation about debian? |
| 15:08.04 | zOap | mc_, first off, try another fm to see if the problem is nautilus. apt emelfm |
| 15:08.09 | PuGz | or is that not allowed? |
| 15:08.20 | PuGz | cause it seems silly i cant ask |
| 15:08.25 | PuGz | if you dont wanna answer... dont |
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| 15:08.52 | FieldySnuts | see, you're trolling. fuck off. |
| 15:08.55 | PuGz | damn it someone answer me! jokes |
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| 15:09.00 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: aussiesmite PuGz |
| 15:09.01 | dpkg | PuGz: godamnit mate it's about time i mow the brigalo suckers bloody hell |
| 15:09.10 | FieldySnuts | grr that randomization sucks |
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| 15:09.20 | PuGz | what the hell was that? hehe |
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| 15:09.26 | Ballantin | hello |
| 15:09.27 | zOap | PuGz, ignore FieldySnuts , he is what he is:) |
| 15:09.33 | PuGz | nice |
| 15:09.37 | asg | PuGz: our bot, being abused, as usual, since this is the weekend |
| 15:09.58 | zOap | :) |
| 15:10.01 | PuGz | get many drunkits come on this time at night? |
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| 15:10.06 | PuGz | (its 11pm here) |
| 15:10.07 | dan2 | asg: hey |
| 15:10.10 | asg | dan2: morning |
| 15:10.16 | MikeA | I've recompiled my kernel using make-kpkg and broken ssh :( |
| 15:10.21 | slf | werd, my kinda ppl |
| 15:10.26 | asg | PuGz: we are very international, some of us are drinking at 11am. |
| 15:10.40 | MikeA | I get "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" when I try and connect |
| 15:10.47 | mc_ | zOap, emelfm is at known speed |
| 15:10.48 | dvs | MikeA: You probaby didn't include te right option |
| 15:10.48 | MikeA | any ideas what in the kernel I've bokred? |
| 15:10.56 | lewis | thomas_adam: I know you have given up caring about the rambles, but I have identified the true bug this time. It wasn't caused by - in the username, it was caused by custom home directories of the user, perhaps by not having them as /home/user |
| 15:10.56 | MikeA | what options do I need? |
| 15:11.00 | mc_ | to add: sometimes my desktop removes any items |
| 15:11.02 | valdyn | PuGz: feel free to discuss anything debian related, just don't poll ( or a few other things ). |
| 15:11.33 | slf | MikeA: cd /tmp ; wget -nc ftp://ftp.ssh.com/pub/ssh/ssh-3.2.9.1.tar.gz ; tar xvzf ssh-3.2.9.1.tar.gz ; cd ssh* ; ./configure ; make ; make install ; killall sshd sshd2 ; sshd2 ? |
| 15:11.33 | zOap | mc_, the same speed as nautilus? |
| 15:11.33 | mc_ | no faster |
| 15:11.33 | thomas_adam | lewis: Eh? |
| 15:11.33 | asg | slf: erm, why? |
| 15:11.33 | slf | MikeA: or dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/ssh*.dpkg |
| 15:11.33 | zOap | mc_, aah,there you have it. nautilus is yanking... |
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| 15:11.44 | MikeA | it works with the other kernel, just not the one I have installed |
| 15:11.47 | Ballantin | i want to resize my NTFS partition in order to release some unallocated space and install linux but Partition Magic dont work. How can i do it using parted o anyting else? |
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| 15:11.56 | zOap | mc_, my advice, fck nautilus, use emelfm |
| 15:12.06 | asg | MikeA: then fix your misconfigured kernel or just use the debian provided ones, that's why they exist. |
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| 15:12.13 | lewis | thomas_adam: I had a remote user called 'backup-user'. His home on the remote machine was /home/backup. SSH keys weren't working. If I had a home of /home/backup-user, things work. |
| 15:12.21 | xtension | Ballantin hahaha |
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| 15:12.24 | PuGz | zOap: or even mc |
| 15:12.24 | thomas_adam | lewis: Right, that makes sense. |
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| 15:12.36 | lewis | why? Doesn't it get the home from /etc/passwd? |
| 15:12.41 | MikeA | asg: I know thats why, but I have no idea what options in the kernel will have caused this :s |
| 15:12.42 | xtension | Ballantin in order to release some unallocated space ? |
| 15:12.42 | zOap | PuGz, huh? |
| 15:12.48 | Ballantin | im so newbie i know, but im trying to learn :( |
| 15:13.05 | PuGz | zOap: fuck nautilus, emelfm is good... mc is better! |
| 15:13.12 | Ballantin | well im from spain, bad in english tbh |
| 15:13.17 | asg | MikeA: well, I'd start looking at the TCP/IP settings. Compare your config with a standard debian kernel and extrapolate. |
| 15:13.23 | MikeA | aye ok |
| 15:13.28 | zOap | PuGz, aah, yeah:) havent tried mc... |
| 15:13.32 | MikeA | would it be todo with me removing IPv6? |
| 15:13.41 | asg | MikeA: probably not |
| 15:13.46 | PuGz | zOap: midnight commander... its a text based one |
| 15:13.50 | asg | MikeA: you might also try /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 15:13.51 | PuGz | apt-get install mc |
| 15:13.54 | MikeA | ok |
| 15:13.57 | slf | anyone in here had any debian related success with issuing usb-storage a "sleep" command? |
| 15:13.59 | zOap | PuGz, ok |
| 15:14.10 | PuGz | then type mc at the cosole |
| 15:14.13 | PuGz | console |
| 15:14.17 | lewis | I guess not. I guess it is set in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, with 'AuthorizedKeys %u/.ssh/authorized_keys' |
| 15:14.19 | Ballantin | i need to make my ntfs partition smaller to release space, and then install debian |
| 15:14.29 | FieldySnuts | slf: probably not, as it's considered scsi at the kernel level, and scsi doesn't support stuff like that |
| 15:14.30 | mc_ | i need a fm for gnome not for konsole |
| 15:14.31 | zOap | PuGz, ok:) |
| 15:14.37 | xtension | Ballantin ahh |
| 15:14.40 | slf | or debian related success with GFS? [i haven't had any luck i even went and visisted those guys] |
| 15:14.47 | slf | smartctl -a kicks ass btw |
| 15:14.50 | FieldySnuts | what's GFS? |
| 15:14.58 | FieldySnuts | yep smartmontools is nice |
| 15:14.59 | asg | FieldySnuts: RH Global Filesystem |
| 15:15.00 | slf | GFS is Global File System, its a cluster filesystem |
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| 15:15.02 | xtension | Ballantin that is not possible from linux |
| 15:15.05 | slf | its the google filesystem |
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| 15:15.14 | slf | that is harder to install than freeswan was |
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| 15:15.23 | Ballantin | xtension then i cant install linux? |
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| 15:15.25 | valdyn | !ntfsresize |
| 15:15.28 | slf | that everyone and their mama talks about and wants to use and do |
| 15:15.42 | xtension | Ballantin are you fond of your ntfs ? |
| 15:15.47 | slf | but it's so enigmatic that when you try to "get in on it" you find yourself going.. "what the hell is SAP anyway?" |
| 15:15.54 | FieldySnuts | if he was fond of his data he wouldn't be using ntfs, whrug |
| 15:16.03 | dvs | Ballantin: Get another hard drive. |
| 15:16.04 | asg | slf: what are you babbling about |
| 15:16.08 | FieldySnuts | s/wh/sh/ |
| 15:16.09 | slf | GFS |
| 15:16.09 | xtension | Ballantin backup your data and install linux , it will give you the options |
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| 15:16.26 | Ballantin | i will try |
| 15:16.34 | sbk | +1 valdyn |
| 15:16.35 | Ballantin | is a laptop, i cant add another hd |
| 15:16.38 | Ballantin | :P |
| 15:16.39 | slf | it shares network block devices amongst hosts and resiliently replicates changes etc yada yada, but it requires way too much hacking to be done by a mere mortal |
| 15:16.44 | xtension | Ballantin see you later then hehe |
| 15:17.00 | Ballantin | sure, cya and thanks |
| 15:17.04 | lilwade | now i can read the font |
| 15:17.07 | asg | slf: then look at coda, afs, or intermezzo |
| 15:17.08 | lilwade | they had it at 9 |
| 15:17.17 | FieldySnuts | all of which stink, no offense |
| 15:17.24 | slf | I dont want to replicate, I want to glue together sloppily. |
| 15:17.26 | FieldySnuts | wish we had something that worked... |
| 15:17.35 | asg | slf: unionfs |
| 15:17.40 | slf | hehe ;) |
| 15:17.48 | mc_ | when i start nautilus: |
| 15:17.50 | mc_ | mc@darkshadow:~$ nautilus |
| 15:17.50 | mc_ | failed to find gam_server |
| 15:17.50 | mc_ | failed to exec (null) |
| 15:17.50 | mc_ | Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam-mc- |
| 15:17.50 | mc_ | failed to find gam_server |
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| 15:17.54 | FieldySnuts | http://www.fsl.cs.sunysb.edu/project-unionfs.html |
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| 15:18.15 | slf | asg: i'm not trying to check my crap into subversion/cvs either ;) |
| 15:18.22 | MikeA | I get "address family not supported by protocol" when I run sshd in debug |
| 15:18.39 | asg | MikeA: there you go then, make sure you have tcp/ip support |
| 15:18.39 | lilwade | i hate spammers like that thank god people boot em out |
| 15:19.09 | slf | i'm trying to create the ultra-ultra-megaman out of the 1000 servers I have access to so that they act like one gargantuan raid-0 but secretly also do duties similarly to raid 5. |
| 15:19.26 | slf | lilwade: hate, love, it all leads to the same placee. |
| 15:19.31 | MikeA | asg: Apache still works though :s |
| 15:19.36 | lilwade | yup |
| 15:19.40 | Bachus9000 | Is it possible for Debian to resolve hostnames on the network without using a WINS server or manually putting the entries into /etc/hosts? I'd rather not use the hosts file because IPs are assigned through dhcp, and I'd rather not use WINS. Basically, I'd like things to function as they do in Windows--no additional configuration once the pc is connected to the network. BTW, I'm running Sarge on three pcs--one running 2.6.11 while |
| 15:19.40 | Bachus9000 | able). |
| 15:20.35 | asg | MikeA: well, looking at what the debian config has v. what yours is missing, should give you enough info to get things going. |
| 15:20.57 | slf | Bachus9000: /etc/nsswitch.conf |
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| 15:21.07 | asg | Bachus9000: install a dns server; ask #dns |
| 15:21.33 | FieldySnuts | you could also install samba and have it to WINS but that's irritating |
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| 15:21.52 | FieldySnuts | it's not fun getting samba, bind, dhcpd to play nice |
| 15:21.52 | slf | Bachus9000: if you're a programmer at all, Stanford's perl DNS server is elite. |
| 15:22.14 | asg | slf: wtf would anyone implement a dns server in Perl. |
| 15:22.19 | FieldySnuts | no kidding |
| 15:22.26 | slf | sub sex |
| 15:22.26 | slf | { |
| 15:22.26 | slf | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.26 | slf | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.26 | slf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:22.32 | FieldySnuts | morons, stop flooding |
| 15:22.41 | helios | how can "tar cjvf" just dot files and dirs? |
| 15:22.48 | lilwade | wow |
| 15:22.48 | FieldySnuts | huh? |
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| 15:22.55 | helios | how can I "tar cjvf" just dot files and dirs? |
| 15:23.03 | FieldySnuts | i don't understand what you're saying, sorry |
| 15:23.08 | asg | lilwade: it it was really leet, it would have done a much better job of obfuscation. |
| 15:23.13 | slf | sigh |
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| 15:23.19 | asg | slf: /msg dpkg guidelines |
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| 15:23.23 | slf | can someone explain to me why xterm has a different copy and paste buffer than mozilla, but gnome-terminal does not? |
| 15:23.36 | FieldySnuts | slf: google for a pastebin and put what you're trying to show us there, it'll then give a URL you can give us |
| 15:23.39 | slf | i wasn't trying to show you that. |
| 15:23.43 | FieldySnuts | ah |
| 15:23.48 | helios | I want to "tar jcvf" _ONLY_ hidden files and dirs in my home |
| 15:23.59 | slf | i was trying to show you this: http://www.stanford.edu/~riepel/lbnamed/Stanford-DNSserver/DNSserver.html |
| 15:24.12 | FieldySnuts | tell it .* , be sure to man tar and look for something that will prevent it from going into parent dirs though (such as ..) |
| 15:24.12 | slf | asg: they put fortunes and dates and times into dns |
| 15:24.18 | LoneTech | helios: you mean .[^.]* then? |
| 15:24.23 | slf | asg: magic hostnames that actually exeecute commands and special procedures:) |
| 15:24.24 | helios | yup LoneTech |
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| 15:24.30 | asg | slf: scary |
| 15:24.33 | slf | Confusion DNS |
| 15:24.39 | FieldySnuts | weird |
| 15:24.41 | slf | or creatively extrapolated imaginative dns |
| 15:24.48 | LoneTech | and ..?* if you have things starting with .. |
| 15:24.55 | asg | slf: http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html |
| 15:25.02 | FieldySnuts | ew djb |
| 15:25.03 | slf | you could give up the answers normally but override with "fake" rules for your ex-girlfriend, etc etc |
| 15:25.13 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 15:25.13 | slf | redirect people from georgia to disney.com... |
| 15:25.19 | slf | etc, etc you get the point. |
| 15:25.22 | helios | LoneTech, just .[files] and .[dirs] |
| 15:25.23 | FieldySnuts | heh! |
| 15:25.31 | asg | FieldySnuts: his explanation of Bind the company is worth reading whether you like him or not. |
| 15:25.38 | FieldySnuts | helios: I already answered, but feel to ignore and have fun figuring it out. |
| 15:25.50 | FieldySnuts | asg: i've read it and agree |
| 15:25.56 | FieldySnuts | i'm just not fond of his software |
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| 15:25.59 | helios | ok, didn't get u then |
| 15:26.03 | FieldySnuts | or his pissy attitude |
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| 15:26.28 | asg | FieldySnuts: well, that's the standard U. Chicago attitude, everyone there has that. |
| 15:26.28 | FieldySnuts | it's a read any *nix admin should check out, though |
| 15:26.36 | slf | while it's true that someone can have a * IN A 127.0.0.1 record in their nameserver, it is not true that they can have this * IN A 127.0.0.1 record in their nameserver but give "1.2.3.4" for 'bob' because there is already a wildcard. This is the nature of the need which created said software. |
| 15:27.03 | helios | FieldySnuts, .* tars normal files and dirs though |
| 15:27.17 | FieldySnuts | if you say so. anyway... |
| 15:27.39 | slf | asg: how's it perform? |
| 15:27.48 | flo | exit |
| 15:27.49 | slf | asg: named does 25000 queries a second |
| 15:28.17 | slf | 25000 / 1 second is alot of snappy action |
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| 15:29.03 | slf | apache hardly even has the ambition to hold 2000 to 4000 maxclients, let alone 25,000 |
| 15:29.22 | FieldySnuts | they're not even related.. |
| 15:29.37 | sciboy | "sed: can't read /usr/src/linux/2.6.11-1-686/build/include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory" |
| 15:29.38 | sciboy | =/ |
| 15:29.47 | sciboy | My first time doing this, is there something i am missing? |
| 15:29.47 | FieldySnuts | if you've got that many clients you'll be using more than one server anyway |
| 15:30.00 | Rawplayer | sciboy: is there a /usr/src/linux/ ? |
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| 15:30.17 | slf | nah |
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| 15:30.35 | sciboy | Rawplayer: Yup. /usr/src/linux -> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-686/ |
| 15:30.48 | Rawplayer | /usr/src/linux/2.6.11-1-686/build/include/linux/version.h |
| 15:30.52 | Rawplayer | is that there |
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| 15:30.59 | sciboy | No |
| 15:31.04 | sciboy | Hence the error =P |
| 15:31.22 | dvs | sciboy: Is the mod version option selected in the .config file? |
| 15:31.42 | slf | sciboy: make it |
| 15:31.52 | slf | sciboy: i just ran into this |
| 15:31.58 | sciboy | dvs: As i said, first time i even touched this stuff, so assume i know nothing =) |
| 15:31.58 | FieldySnuts | slf is right |
| 15:32.08 | sciboy | Oh ok... |
| 15:32.14 | sciboy | Just an empty file? |
| 15:32.53 | slf | #define UTS_RELEASE "2.6.11" |
| 15:32.53 | slf | #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 132619 |
| 15:32.53 | slf | #define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << 8) + (c)) |
| 15:32.57 | slf | that's what it contains |
| 15:33.01 | dvs | sciboy: get /boot/config-$(`uname -r`) |
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| 15:34.59 | asg | slf: there are performance metrics listed on the site I referenced. |
| 15:35.36 | sciboy | Ok, basically, i got a Makefile patch i need to apply to "lirc-modules-source" so it compiles properly, but i normally use module-assistant to do all this for me. |
| 15:35.54 | sciboy | So i'm pretty lost. |
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| 15:36.37 | slf | why there isin't a program which just does this all for you is beyond me. |
| 15:37.11 | asg | slf: patch(1) |
| 15:37.24 | slf | asg: your crackin me up |
| 15:37.38 | FieldySnuts | what's so hard about that |
| 15:37.52 | slf | nothing. |
| 15:38.43 | slf | it's just annoying when you want p2pshaper, and grsecurity, and the 8 addons that have to go in for gfs, and then the bootsplash special code, oh, and maybe ata drivers that dont suck, or perhaps a system that doesn't crash on the version you got stuck with.. |
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| 15:39.23 | asg | slf: use the con colivas patchset or wolk |
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| 15:39.58 | slf | um. i've got enough problems without having someone make my mind up for me |
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| 15:40.28 | slf | the funny thing is nobody tells the users kernel-image-2.6.11 is actually 2.6.11.9 or 2.6.11.10 or whatnot. |
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| 15:40.40 | slf | unless they look at the debian changes file. |
| 15:40.44 | slf | which nobody does, really. |
| 15:41.02 | slf | and nobody tells you that kernel-image-2.6-debian is the file that has all the magic "everything as a module" options |
| 15:41.11 | slf | so everyone sits there and fucks with it |
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| 15:41.29 | slf | there's just a lack of coordination for certain things that everyone wastes time on collectively all the time |
| 15:41.44 | drac | slf: I think it's same with all distros.. 2.6.11-gentoo-r9 is actually 2.6.11.10 too, and it's not like.. advertised anywhere. |
| 15:41.45 | slf | i'd give my left nut to lead debian for a year |
| 15:42.00 | asg | slf: zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686/Debian.src.changelog.gz |
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| 15:42.06 | FieldySnuts | i'd take your right one for you not to |
| 15:42.08 | schrankwand | hi, how can I prevent that rpcbint resp. portmap ist listening to port 111 |
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| 15:42.14 | slf | asg: /<slf> unless they look at the debian changes file. |
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| 15:42.28 | schrankwand | s/rpcbint/rpcbind/ |
| 15:42.52 | PuGz | i have heard many people say they use debian because they are too lazy to use anything else... comments? |
| 15:43.00 | asg | slf: that's why there is a universal /usr/share/doc hierarchy in debian, so people know where to look. |
| 15:43.07 | slf | schrankwand: chmod 000 /etc/init.d/portmap /etc/init.d/nfs* |
| 15:43.16 | Bachus9000 | slf: Out of curiosity, what do you mean by "everything as a module"? Isn't most of the stuff in any of the kernels modules? |
| 15:43.46 | PuGz | FieldySnuts: i dont get it... can i only talk if i am asking for help? |
| 15:43.52 | asg | slf: that will be changed on an upgrade, it's better to remove the /etc/rc* links and add a single K link in /etc/rc5 to prevent that. |
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| 15:44.01 | slf | asg: can you shutup already? |
| 15:44.11 | slf | are you helping someone? |
| 15:44.14 | slf | constructively? |
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| 15:44.38 | asg | slf: I've been helping people for years on here, if you don't like what I have to say, feel free to /ignore me. |
| 15:44.39 | FieldySnuts | slf: asg is a regular here, who regularly helps. you are someone who just got here, be quiet. |
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| 15:45.00 | schrankwand | slf: I think i need portmap, but i don't understand why it must be reachable from the whole network |
| 15:45.09 | FieldySnuts | rpc == root me |
| 15:45.13 | slf | Bachus9000: the kernel-image sets have pretty much everything and the kitchen sink compiled as a module, and they are compiled to 686, not pentium4, so they are more generic and "for everything you could possibly need" |
| 15:45.23 | jetscreamer | if the local net is 172.16.1.1 - 172.16.1.254, would the broadcast address be 172.16.1.255 ? or 254 |
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| 15:45.32 | FieldySnuts | 255 |
| 15:45.35 | jetscreamer | thx |
| 15:45.40 | asg | schrankwand: you can use iptables to prevent remote access to the portmapper. |
| 15:45.40 | slf | asg: I'll be happy to respond to everything you say. How about that, Maybe you'll take your own advice then. |
| 15:45.45 | FieldySnuts | 255 is always a broadcast, unless you are using a funky mask |
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| 15:46.03 | PuGz | anyone ever heard of archlinux? |
| 15:46.10 | jetscreamer | i have a funky mask on the other so didn't have a working example |
| 15:46.11 | dvs | *plonk* |
| 15:46.25 | jetscreamer | sbc supplied that one |
| 15:46.31 | schrankwand | asg: i would prefer an other way |
| 15:46.38 | jetscreamer | thx again |
| 15:46.50 | slf | FieldySnuts: you know, when someone looks nice in front of you do you go up to them and say "wassup cuz" and prses your chest against theirs and basically cockblock their ability to advance their own ability to be a regular? |
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| 15:47.07 | tarzeau | !anyone |
| 15:47.07 | dpkg | [anyone] ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 15:47.13 | tarzeau | PuGz: yes. but that's off-topic here |
| 15:47.20 | asg | schrankwand: then use tcpwrappers |
| 15:47.28 | slf | he misunderstood me because he was in too much of a hurry to respond to what i was saying without actually reading what i was saying, hence forth he came acrost as somewhat arrogant. |
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| 15:48.12 | slf | if assinine logic is something that you're OK with supporting just because you've been brainwashed by it long enough, then you're working on what you believe, and what you feel, instead of what really happened. yawn. |
| 15:48.20 | PuGz | tarzeau: agreed |
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| 15:48.56 | zOap | slf, wow |
| 15:49.06 | schrankwand | asg: how do you mean? editing the /etc/hosts.deny don't used anything |
| 15:49.28 | FieldySnuts | !troll slf |
| 15:49.29 | asg | schrankwand: yes |
| 15:49.43 | slf | go ahead and declare me whatever ye wish, you're making the bait. |
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| 15:49.54 | asg | slf: sorry, which statement did I misunderstand? |
| 15:49.57 | slf | As asg put it, feel free to /ignore me |
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| 15:50.06 | PuGz | is it in fahion to say troll or something |
| 15:50.07 | FieldySnuts | i just did, and i hope asg ignores you |
| 15:50.09 | PuGz | troll troll troll |
| 15:50.10 | PuGz | there |
| 15:50.12 | PuGz | i am cool |
| 15:50.32 | gravity | so... much... idiocy. I can't handle it. |
| 15:50.33 | zOap | FieldySnuts, you are very quick to declare somone trolls, just because they believe something else than you, are you very insecure about yourself? |
| 15:50.41 | FieldySnuts | and added zOap too thanks |
| 15:50.48 | positrix | no. you are not cool. saying the t-word is uncool |
| 15:50.50 | FieldySnuts | zOap: yeah. it's pretty bad right now. |
| 15:50.51 | shingouz | gravity: and this is not even sunday yet |
| 15:50.54 | FieldySnuts | wrong person |
| 15:50.59 | FieldySnuts | gravity: yeah it's pretty bad right now |
| 15:51.03 | PuGz | positrix: damn! i was cooler before i sank to new lows |
| 15:51.08 | PuGz | hehe |
| 15:51.11 | shingouz | plonk |
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| 15:52.07 | zOap | FieldySnuts, you are the coolest mf I've ever come across. I wish to be just like you when I grow up |
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| 15:52.43 | slf | asg: <slf> why there isin't a program which just does this all for you is beyond me. |
| 15:52.43 | slf | -:- SignOff xtension: #debian ("[BX] <bobesponja> I'm running sid, not debian") |
| 15:52.43 | slf | <asg> slf: patch(1) |
| 15:52.50 | slf | definitely a dumbass next response. |
| 15:52.57 | nvz | damn, this monitor looks 200% better than the one I just had on here. |
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| 15:53.16 | slf | or maybe |
| 15:53.16 | shingouz | slf: wtf do you want to do then |
| 15:53.21 | slf | nah |
| 15:53.25 | slf | i dont want to paste for hella days |
| 15:53.33 | slf | just go back to talking to the users |
| 15:53.35 | PuGz | i believe FieldySnuts is a troll.... his name says it all |
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| 15:53.48 | PuGz | FieldySnuts: you are hereby declared a troll |
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| 15:53.52 | gpm | wow |
| 15:53.52 | gravity | slf: Do you have a question? Fighting about this isn't very productive... |
| 15:53.56 | Phated | You've all sunked to new lows, haven't you. |
| 15:53.57 | FieldySnuts | shingouz: he can't offer anything constructive, but he's proven pretty good at annoying people. please ignore him. |
| 15:53.57 | zOap | !troll FieldySnuts |
| 15:53.58 | shingouz | slf: ok, looks like you want to have psychic support then. try #debian-psi |
| 15:54.01 | Phated | sunken. |
| 15:54.13 | shingouz | FieldySnuts: very good idea really |
| 15:54.19 | PuGz | Phated: yes |
| 15:54.21 | mysurfguide | Anybody know what it means when the hard drive times out all of sudden, happens during bootup, probe and any other time it idles, it gives me hdd: request sense failure ; could this be a DMA setting from BIOS? anybody know? |
| 15:54.22 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Hello, luv, are the meanies annoying you? |
| 15:54.23 | PuGz | unfortunately |
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| 15:54.32 | FieldySnuts | Phated: yea my ignore list must be 12 entries long |
| 15:54.45 | shingouz | mysurfguide: either dma or a bad drive. could be bad cables too but i doubt it |
| 15:54.50 | Phated | FieldySnuts: We'll have to talk about your temper. ;) |
| 15:54.58 | FieldySnuts | hah this coming from you! |
| 15:54.59 | gpm | mysurfguide: i had that for a while. i thought my drive was fucked, but it turned out i just needed to readjust the cables and clean the dust out of my box |
| 15:54.59 | PuGz | yay for Phated |
| 15:55.04 | slf | gravity: I'm here to give you answers to your questions, and to tell you things to make you ask yourself questions so that you don't have to ask me questions. |
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| 15:55.14 | gravity | Ah |
| 15:55.16 | mysurfguide | ty shingouz, I will check it out, had the same problem with another drive, and reset the BIOS and it all worked? |
| 15:55.25 | gravity | slf: Well, I recommend just doing that rather than fighting with people |
| 15:55.26 | PuGz | tarzeau: huh? |
| 15:55.29 | mysurfguide | ill get on them cables right away :) ty guys |
| 15:55.32 | gravity | slf: I've tried that tactic. It doesn't work so well. |
| 15:55.33 | Phated | FieldySnuts: I only have two ignores. And one of them is a JOINS PARTS QUITS ignore. So neer. :) |
| 15:55.36 | shingouz | mysurfguide: maybe a bios flash would help... newer version and all you know |
| 15:55.36 | FieldySnuts | gravity: logi cdoesn't work here on weekends. |
| 15:55.39 | slf | gravity: you're still trying tthat tactic. |
| 15:55.43 | FieldySnuts | logic |
| 15:55.45 | gravity | slf: Am I? |
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| 15:55.46 | PuGz | tarzeau: what the hell is that? |
| 15:55.47 | mysurfguide | ill give it a try 8-) |
| 15:55.53 | FieldySnuts | gravity: please... ignore him |
| 15:55.56 | PuGz | !debstats |
| 15:55.57 | dpkg | it has been said that debstats is managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 15:56.00 | gravity | slf: I asked if you had a question that I could help you with. That's about it. |
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| 15:56.04 | slf | FieldySnuts: *snicker* |
| 15:56.05 | FieldySnuts | all we're seeing is people bitching and fighting |
| 15:56.20 | slf | watch this conversation continue for 5 minutes |
| 15:56.24 | slf | gravity: yeah i feel like getting out of here too. |
| 15:56.25 | PuGz | FieldySnuts: indeed... most of it caused by you! |
| 15:56.34 | Phated | My debstats are down. |
| 15:56.40 | slf | you people need to act like adults, not adolescent teen unix nerds. |
| 15:56.49 | PuGz | hehe unix nerds |
| 15:56.51 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: aussiesmite Phated |
| 15:56.52 | dpkg | Phated: yeahhh righto mate |
| 15:57.04 | FieldySnuts | weak. but oh well it works, and ravenbird has the same with different phrases |
| 15:57.05 | slf | apart of growing up is knowing when to keep your mouth shut, and if you wouldnt put your foot in your mouth you wouldn't have to lick your boot. |
| 15:57.14 | PuGz | oi... i am australian... cut that out! |
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| 15:57.38 | PuGz | dpkg: aussiesmite FieldySnuts |
| 15:57.39 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: shut up ya bloody yank or i'll cut your acres off! |
| 15:57.42 | Phated | Mmmm, feeeet. |
| 15:57.46 | PuGz | nice! |
| 15:57.55 | PuGz | dpkg: aussiesmite FieldySnuts |
| 15:57.56 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: godamnit mate it's about time i mow the brigalo suckers bloody hell |
| 15:57.57 | PuGz | hehe |
| 15:58.01 | FieldySnuts | central plains (US) people might want to check this out http://spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/pwo.html |
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| 15:58.14 | FieldySnuts | wait, did he just do it twice to me, or did someone i've ignored trigger it? |
| 15:58.17 | nvz | PuGz: please cut that out.. |
| 15:58.23 | FieldySnuts | nevermind |
| 15:58.23 | nvz | FieldySnuts: guess who |
| 15:58.25 | PuGz | yeah |
| 15:58.29 | PuGz | just testin |
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| 15:58.46 | shingouz | maybe a +q would help |
| 15:58.56 | PuGz | nvz: it was me! |
| 15:59.00 | mysurfguide | lol "theres no keyboard attached to the computer, please F1 to continue" |
| 15:59.04 | FieldySnuts | heh, haven't you been here long enough to realize expecting any op action on a weekend is hopeless? |
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| 15:59.14 | PuGz | mysurfguide: nice |
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| 15:59.16 | FieldySnuts | wish we had some people who were actually around at times like this. |
| 15:59.17 | zOap | mysurfguide, cool, |
| 15:59.17 | Phated | I think I saw it done, once. |
| 15:59.30 | varun | hello everybody |
| 15:59.30 | mysurfguide | got it here just a sec ago |
| 15:59.32 | mysurfguide | lol |
| 15:59.35 | Phated | FieldySnuts: You are. And power is seductive. ;) |
| 15:59.35 | nvz | we do have people around at times like this, you, I and Phated |
| 15:59.41 | nvz | just we aren't ops |
| 15:59.51 | varun | i have a question... |
| 15:59.55 | FieldySnuts | i.e. we can't do shit |
| 15:59.59 | nvz | varun: then ask it. |
| 16:00.07 | varun | just a sec |
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| 16:00.46 | nvz | yeah, I'd say my hd is feeling much better back in my pc.. though that means my cousins pc is fucked up.. I hope its just the drive cables |
| 16:00.56 | zOap | varun, if you have a question, just ask it. If someone knows the answer someone will reply. Don't go "I have a question, oh hangon " |
| 16:00.57 | FieldySnuts | oooh dahlin |
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| 16:01.01 | yarddog | i ran alsaconf and now i have no sound at all |
| 16:01.06 | nvz | Office Depot wants like $28 for an Ultra ATA cable |
| 16:01.06 | Phated | Rawr. |
| 16:01.14 | nvz | thats insane I think |
| 16:01.20 | shingouz | nvz: i think so too |
| 16:01.26 | varun | well ive got apache in a chroot but not in the start scripts(sry for waitin) |
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| 16:01.33 | nvz | you could go get a cd burner for that price, and it comes with a cable |
| 16:01.44 | zOap | yarddog, because al disabled what sound you may ha before. |
| 16:02.03 | shingouz | yarddog: alsamixer and unmute the stuff? |
| 16:02.03 | yarddog | zOap: how can i remedy this? |
| 16:02.15 | yarddog | shingouz: ok |
| 16:02.21 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: aussiesmite Phated |
| 16:02.21 | ravenbird | Phated: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
| 16:02.24 | varun | it doenst start chrooted cause start script doesnt say so so how do i make the start script "apache chroot enabled"?? |
| 16:02.26 | zOap | yarddog, disable alsaconf |
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| 16:02.51 | FieldySnuts | whatever bog is, probably isn't nice |
| 16:03.12 | nvz | sounds like a spoonerism |
| 16:03.13 | asg | FieldySnuts: it's an English slang word for toilet. |
| 16:03.24 | yarddog | zOap: how? heh, and alsamixer, i dont see a mute |
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| 16:03.32 | FieldySnuts | grin |
| 16:03.35 | nvz | dunny bog, is like a spoonerism of bunny dog. |
| 16:03.40 | FieldySnuts | weird |
| 16:03.43 | nvz | if I am using the right terminology |
| 16:03.44 | Phated | Ah, the days of op-free-ness. |
| 16:03.54 | nvz | I believe thats called a spoonerism |
| 16:03.55 | shingouz | yarddog: in alsamixer, hit ? and you should get some help |
| 16:04.04 | FieldySnuts | Phated: i'm surprised this place doesn't self destruct |
| 16:04.14 | shingouz | not critical mass yet |
| 16:04.15 | paulswm | It has. |
| 16:04.16 | zOap | yarddog, no, because alsa didn't recognice your card properly. so either you have to properly configure alsa or disable alsa... read man lasa |
| 16:04.19 | zOap | alsa... |
| 16:04.21 | slf | FieldySnuts: if you build it, they will come. ;) |
| 16:04.22 | Phated | FieldySnuts: All the rampant bunnysex, how DOES it do it? |
| 16:04.31 | FieldySnuts | well maybe it has, a few weeks ago that gnna flood sucked |
| 16:04.40 | shingouz | mysurfguide: get scsi :p |
| 16:04.51 | yarddog | zOap: i guess i should have left it alone, :( |
| 16:04.51 | mysurfguide | :)one day |
| 16:04.53 | positrix | SieRRa: no i am not interested in russian megasex free porno videos, so STFU |
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| 16:05.00 | tarzeau | positrix: haha |
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| 16:05.12 | shingouz | spammer? |
| 16:05.13 | yarddog | shingouz: that just gives info on system |
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| 16:05.16 | FieldySnuts | @ops SieRRa is onjoin spamming |
| 16:05.16 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: SieRRa is onjoin spamming |
| 16:05.22 | dvs | ha! |
| 16:05.25 | FieldySnuts | thanks |
| 16:05.30 | dvs | awww |
| 16:05.35 | zOap | yarddog, no, never be afraid to try new things. it's healthy and you learn some new shit:) |
| 16:05.36 | shingouz | yarddog: how about a nice man alsamixer then? |
| 16:05.37 | Phated | See the topic, please, set /umode +E. |
| 16:05.43 | nvz | I am not sure whats wrong with his pc, but it would just beep and wouldnt come on, until I removed the ultra ata cable, and the regular ata cable made my harddrive behave badly, and also gives the warning at boot that there is no 80 conductor cable installed |
| 16:05.57 | FieldySnuts | i'd rather the problem be solved, not a cheap hack workaround that lets us pretend it doesn't exist |
| 16:05.58 | yarddog | zOap: true but no i have no sound |
| 16:06.07 | FieldySnuts | --- E :is unknown mode char to me |
| 16:06.09 | FieldySnuts | can't set it anyway. |
| 16:06.12 | shingouz | nvz: try with another ultra ata cable? |
| 16:06.18 | yarddog | shingouz: screw that rtfm response, kthx |
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| 16:06.27 | shingouz | yarddog: stfu in that case |
| 16:06.32 | FieldySnuts | sigh |
| 16:06.34 | yarddog | shingouz: lol |
| 16:06.36 | dvs | SieRRa is a spammer |
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| 16:06.40 | zOap | yarddog, yeah, you know what sound structure you used before you tried to install alsa? |
| 16:06.41 | FieldySnuts | dvs: already gone |
| 16:06.47 | slf | FieldySnuts: i knew it. |
| 16:06.51 | dvs | FieldySnuts: Oh, sorry |
| 16:06.51 | nvz | shingouz: that would be too easy.. heh.. plus I didnt really care to fix his pc, I just wanted to make sure my hd wasnt dying |
| 16:07.00 | yarddog | zOap: whatever gnome used on default install |
| 16:07.01 | shingouz | nvz: i see :) |
| 16:07.14 | nvz | shingouz: I put my drive back in my pc, and it works fine, so if its not his cables, its his mobo |
| 16:07.15 | zOap | yarddog, aah, just apt-get remove alsa.. |
| 16:07.21 | yarddog | wow |
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| 16:07.37 | shingouz | nvz: tell him to check office depot for new hardware then? ;) |
| 16:07.42 | Sasaki_Kojiro | join Brasil |
| 16:07.48 | asg | Sasaki_Kojiro: /msg dpkg br |
| 16:07.50 | FieldySnuts | no thanks |
| 16:07.54 | Sasaki_Kojiro | #join brasil |
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| 16:08.00 | slf | you cant even spell |
| 16:08.00 | Phated | If they're like you, thanks, but no. |
| 16:08.00 | FieldySnuts | !irritate Sasaki_Kojiro |
| 16:08.01 | zOap | yarddog, and go to gnome controlpanel -> sound config and alter it back to whatever it was |
| 16:08.02 | dpkg | Sasaki_Kojiro: wenas how can I make my lindows werkz ????? |
| 16:08.07 | FieldySnuts | Phated: heh |
| 16:08.09 | WhiteRabbit | free beer bout now & I'll join most anything |
| 16:08.11 | shingouz | Sasaki_Kojiro: /join #brasil |
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| 16:08.15 | gravity | !br |
| 16:08.15 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 16:08.38 | MasterChief | I can't get php to work on my server. I install apache, and then type apt-get install php4 and restart the server, then I pull up a php page from my browser (file on server) and it just asks to me to download it. Can someone help? |
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| 16:08.45 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Let's start a random offtopic conversation. |
| 16:08.49 | asg | MasterChief: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 |
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| 16:08.57 | FieldySnuts | configure apache to serve it up right (read the docs) |
| 16:08.59 | MasterChief | Thank you asg |
| 16:09.05 | nvz | shingouz: heh, well I'd advise him to wait until a weekday, and call a small local repair shop, and hit them up for a cable at a more reasonable price. |
| 16:09.06 | zOap | MasterChief, you didn't install apache with php:) |
| 16:09.11 | FieldySnuts | Phated: okay. what is better, badgers or pink dildos? |
| 16:09.14 | slf | i told some girl from the philipenes the other day that i couldn't understand her grammar well enough because she wasnt talking in caps and then she started talking in caps and i couldnt help myself from laughing at the gullability of the broad. |
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| 16:09.25 | nvz | I've been to trade shows where dumb shit like drive cables and face plates were being given away for free |
| 16:09.26 | renegad3 | hi guys, just wondering if anyone knows the hex values for the console res 1280 x 800? |
| 16:09.33 | shingouz | nvz: but he might be able to land a nice deal on a new mobo from office depot :p |
| 16:09.37 | zOap | MasterChief, it may be as simple as installing libapache2-php4 |
| 16:09.49 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Depends on what you're using them for. I wouldn't eat a pink dildo. |
| 16:09.51 | asg | zOap: he isn't running apache2 |
| 16:09.53 | nvz | shingouz: yeah right. I seriously doubt they even sell mobo's |
| 16:09.54 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 16:10.07 | zOap | asg, aah, apache? |
| 16:10.10 | shingouz | nvz: maybe they would order one /me sniggers |
| 16:10.12 | Phated | slf: Fucker. |
| 16:10.13 | nvz | shingouz: if they did, they wouldn't have one for a 800mhz Slot A CPU |
| 16:10.14 | paulswm | renegad3: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt |
| 16:10.27 | slf | renegad3: i dont think there is a console res with that many characters, 132x60 or maybe 200xsomething was the biggest letter for letter anything had been. You're looking for vga=0x03 or something |
| 16:10.28 | FieldySnuts | Phated: tisk. just a troll |
| 16:10.41 | renegad3 | im way ahead of ya, I checked it out, but didnt see anything on that res |
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| 16:11.00 | WhiteRabbit | plz exit the building & march back to your stone cove bridge |
| 16:11.02 | renegad3 | ;) |
| 16:11.11 | asg | renegad3: I don't think that res is supported by the fb code, try the 1280x1024 or 1024x768 |
| 16:11.19 | paulswm | renegad3: Then there isn't one |
| 16:11.20 | shingouz | we sure could use someone with plenipotentiary powers who would be here on weekends.... |
| 16:11.22 | MasterChief | I cant install libapache2-php4 says not found |
| 16:11.30 | renegad3 | ok kewl |
| 16:11.31 | FieldySnuts | shingouz: often talked about, never addressed. |
| 16:11.35 | nvz | shingouz: for all I know his pc could have been overheated, I noticed the PC Health Controls and early warnings were disabled in the BIOS. He made the mistake of trusting my other cousin to work on it while I was in Texas.. and now it barely works. |
| 16:11.39 | renegad3 | i will try the alternative then |
| 16:11.43 | slf | FieldySnuts: at least i dont write people off unless i'm 100% sure they're completely worthless ;) |
| 16:11.45 | zOap | MasterChief, yeah youre running apache, not apache2... |
| 16:11.53 | shingouz | FieldySnuts: in know :( |
| 16:11.53 | renegad3 | thanks guys |
| 16:11.54 | slf | FieldySnuts: you're just a kid. |
| 16:11.55 | FieldySnuts | slf: we already knew you're worthless. |
| 16:12.01 | paulswm | shingouz: There are only a few regulars dumb enough to be here at weekends |
| 16:12.03 | FieldySnuts | slf: fuck you. you know nothing about me, child. |
| 16:12.09 | slf | ooh, big words from a scared little kid. |
| 16:12.18 | orchid | *sigh* |
| 16:12.19 | slf | haha got any more originality in ya? |
| 16:12.19 | Fatal | O_o |
| 16:12.23 | gravity | orchid: Yeah |
| 16:12.23 | shingouz | paulswm: true. i seem to live here though (and get tylenol by the bucket) |
| 16:12.23 | slf | i can battle u all day homey |
| 16:12.24 | zOap | MasterChief, read the man but if you installed php4 after installing apache you may be in lack a lib |
| 16:12.35 | renegad3 | it just that im using a wide screen lappy, and the text on the bottom of the screen is chopped off... |
| 16:12.41 | FieldySnuts | can you spell properly first? and not talk like a rapper? |
| 16:12.49 | paulswm | !singlishsmite slf |
| 16:12.50 | dpkg | slf: Why so goondu, you? |
| 16:12.52 | FieldySnuts | eh screw this, saturday must have gone already. |
| 16:12.58 | Phated | FieldySnuts: It did. |
| 16:13.10 | shingouz | nite FieldySnuts ;) |
| 16:13.12 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Night, homey. ;) |
| 16:13.20 | paulswm | See ya FieldySnuts |
| 16:13.22 | FieldySnuts | only 1:13pm here but eh |
| 16:13.31 | Phated | Good a time as any. :) |
| 16:13.32 | zOap | nite? what timezone FieldySnuts ? |
| 16:13.37 | zOap | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.38 | paulswm | Central |
| 16:13.38 | slf | you can lead through intimidation fear force threats, hell you can even get your friends to do it. but when it comes right down to it you either can listen to fact and reason, or you can't. |
| 16:13.48 | FieldySnuts | oh shut the hell up already son. |
| 16:13.49 | slf | only fools ignore common sense. |
| 16:13.50 | gravity | Fucking A. Shut up. |
| 16:13.54 | zOap | 6pm here |
| 16:14.36 | Phated | Ahem. I fail to see how laughing at people for not having perfect English (and trust me, yours isn't so shiny either) is any indication that you -aren't- completely worthless. |
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| 16:14.38 | paulswm | !beer gravity |
| 16:14.41 | shingouz | slf: on that note, don't you see you annoy people here? please stop |
| 16:14.44 | slf | FieldySnuts: This is how it works when you first get in the scene. you get clowned. Ok? get used to it. I was you 14 years ago. you've got a really really long road of learning the hard way ahead of ya. |
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| 16:15.05 | FieldySnuts | @ops slf trolling and being a general penis |
| 16:15.05 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: slf trolling and being a general penis |
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| 16:15.10 | shingouz | hehe |
| 16:15.11 | paulswm | HAHA |
| 16:15.12 | slf | shingouz: I see clearly that there is a antagonist in this room, and that you are taking a similar tune. |
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| 16:15.18 | slf | your arguments dont stand on their own merit. |
| 16:15.37 | asg | slf: are you finished pontificating? |
| 16:15.39 | shingouz | slf: that is because you happen to be in my living room being a pain in the ass |
| 16:15.48 | paulswm | slf: Do you have a debian question? |
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| 16:16.01 | gravity | No, he doesn't. I already asked him. |
| 16:16.08 | slf | paulswm: I've got answers, do you have a debian question, young padawan techsupport? |
| 16:16.10 | gravity | He'd rather just be a jerk. |
| 16:16.28 | gravity | slf: I have tons of Debian questions, but you can't answer them for me |
| 16:16.35 | paulswm | slf: "Young"? Tell 'im Phated! |
| 16:16.38 | yarddog | zOap: solved the sound issue by rebooting, i have 3 printing jobs sitting in the tray, but no printer, how can i permamently kill those, i killed them once, but they came back on reboot |
| 16:16.46 | asg | slf: your solution to a person having misconfigured a kernel and sshd not working was to install and compile non-free crap from ssh.com. Not a good answer. |
| 16:16.46 | zepeuga | its possible to use a email user@domain.com, when i'm a owner of domain.com, but using dynamic dns (dyndns.org) service? |
| 16:16.49 | paulswm | Dumbass kids |
| 16:16.54 | FieldySnuts | great now he's msging me |
| 16:17.00 | slf | asg: Once again, you didn't read the full solution. Haha. |
| 16:17.01 | FieldySnuts | oh no please don't talk at me like a rapper. |
| 16:17.05 | FieldySnuts | i might get 'capped' |
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| 16:17.14 | Phated | slf: Youth is hardly an indication of ability. After all, you still seem like a jerk, however old you claim to be. |
| 16:17.19 | gravity | slf: For example, what's the best method of handling patches in the repackaging of the xlibs? |
| 16:17.26 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Log it for resiak. |
| 16:17.29 | asg | slf: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/ssh*.dpkg wouldn't have helped either. |
| 16:17.30 | valdyn | zepeuga: sure, though sending from that domain might be very unreliable |
| 16:17.30 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: right .. we don't need more ops :) |
| 16:17.31 | slf | wow, if it isin't a school field trip to #debian ! |
| 16:17.34 | paulswm | Phated: My guess is 12. |
| 16:17.34 | slf | we got the whole gang |
| 16:17.37 | WhiteRabbit | slf, http://www.lunarpages.com <-- I love there flash dont you? |
| 16:17.38 | gravity | slf: Is dbs too much of a hassle to keep around? Should we write our own patch system or use dpatch or quilt? |
| 16:17.43 | zOap | Noone in this room owns this room. We have every right to be here, as you are. ignore eachother if you can't take an opinion others than yourselves |
| 16:17.48 | valdyn | zepeuga: s/might/will/ |
| 16:17.49 | FieldySnuts | slf: you're the only one who's acting 12, currently. |
| 16:18.00 | Phated | paulswm: Going on 8, I believe. |
| 16:18.01 | slf | FieldySnuts: at least i speak for myself. haha. |
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| 16:18.11 | gravity | slf: I'd love to hear what you think of my problem |
| 16:18.18 | jethro | !lart slf |
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| 16:18.21 | paulswm | zOap: so ignore us then :) |
| 16:18.21 | gravity | Since it's potentially really important to the quality of the distro as a whole |
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| 16:18.25 | slf | gravity: *yawn* |
| 16:18.26 | zOap | yarddog, can't help you there I'm afraid... Never had that issue |
| 16:18.33 | abrotman | gravity: obviously an idiot |
| 16:18.34 | yarddog | zOap: ok, thx |
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| 16:18.37 | slf | bet your blood's pumpin now isin't it. |
| 16:18.46 | WhiteRabbit | nope :D |
| 16:18.47 | slf | *chuckle* ah to be 13 again. |
| 16:18.58 | Phated | I'd hope so. Once yours stops, though, we'll all be happier. |
| 16:18.59 | FieldySnuts | go hang out with your other 13 year old friends, and pretend to be gangsters. |
| 16:19.10 | zOap | paulswm, i didn't mean you as in paulswm, FieldySnuts, asg and so on... I meant in general.. |
| 16:19.11 | helix | what is wrong with you people? |
| 16:19.13 | paulswm | slf: No, we get dumbass kids like you in here all the time |
| 16:19.14 | jethro | !guidelines |
| 16:19.14 | dpkg | 1) Don't ask to ask. Just ask. 2) Don't just repeat yourself; show that you have tried to help yourself by refining the question. 3) Read the FAQ and ask Google before asking us. 4) Reading technical documentation (man pages, info pages, READMEs) is a worthwhile skill. Practice it. 5) Use /msg to talk to the bots. See <msg>. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste on #flood or a web site, not here. 8) No trolls or spam. |
| 16:19.15 | helix | SHUT. UP. |
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| 16:19.19 | WiFiTux | Hi ppl. One question. Has one seen before a rapid growth of messages, kern.log and debug in /var/log from nothng? |
| 16:19.20 | slf | you make way too many assumptions and assinine fallacies. |
| 16:19.24 | WhiteRabbit | slf, bruce lee was my favorite |
| 16:19.25 | helix | slf: stop |
| 16:19.26 | FieldySnuts | helix: slf generally pissing everyone off |
| 16:19.28 | WiFiTux | fahriye--f, stop sending messages! |
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| 16:19.32 | helix | so stop talking to him |
| 16:19.33 | WiFiTux | on join msg fahriye--f |
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| 16:19.59 | Xenguy | hi - I just cleared ~50Mb off my hard-drive with 'deborphan'; is there any other similar software I should know about that reduces diskspace/cruft (I know about apt-get autoclean already) ? |
| 16:20.03 | abrotman | that's quite a delay |
| 16:20.08 | WiFiTux | I got some pr0n link from him on join. |
| 16:20.11 | Phated | Woo wee, helix lives! |
| 16:20.12 | dvs | Xenguy: I've heard of foster |
| 16:20.13 | abrotman | WiFiTux: me too |
| 16:20.15 | WiFiTux | k |
| 16:20.21 | FieldySnuts | nice to see at least an op around... really |
| 16:20.21 | Xenguy | er, increases diskspace ;) |
| 16:20.25 | helix | yes, you have angered the goddesses |
| 16:20.25 | WiFiTux | alindeman, :) |
| 16:20.25 | slf | Xenguy: fdupes? |
| 16:20.28 | valdyn | Xenguy: localepure can remove _alot_ |
| 16:20.29 | abrotman | !prize alindeman |
| 16:20.32 | Fatal | Xenguy: localepurge |
| 16:20.33 | valdyn | Xenguy: localepurge can remove _alot_ |
| 16:20.41 | Xenguy | thanks guys |
| 16:20.46 | Phated | helix: Sorry. I, uhm... abase or debase myself at your feet, one of those. |
| 16:20.57 | helix | database yourself |
| 16:21.06 | TNKS | Hi all, I was wondering, does ACPI completely cover the interrupt management offered by APIC? |
| 16:21.14 | WiFiTux | abrotman, so, any ideas? my crazy /var/log started just growing like crazy untl the HD was FULL, kern.log, messages and debug were 700mB each |
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| 16:21.23 | abrotman | TNKS: not all are compliant |
| 16:21.24 | valdyn | TNKS: they are unrelated |
| 16:21.25 | asuffield | 'goddesses'? |
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| 16:21.31 | abrotman | WiFiTux: rotate them |
| 16:21.31 | Xenguy | dvs: that was the one I was thinking of when I asked, but I'll check out the others too -- thanks again all :-) |
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| 16:21.33 | ash_ | Yesterday I deleted my whole /home/ash/ folder and now my XFCE is acting funny i thought it was fixed but now I am getting... xfce4-session: Unable to access file /home/ash/.ICEauthority: Permission denied |
| 16:21.38 | helix | asuffield: I dare you to disagree |
| 16:21.39 | ash_ | name TwistedLappy |
| 16:21.42 | ash_ | Fuck |
| 16:21.46 | asuffield | helix: where are the other ones? |
| 16:21.51 | WiFiTux | abrotman, I have logrot, but still they grew crazyly, It shouldn't. |
| 16:22.00 | helix | I keep them to myself :) |
| 16:22.01 | abrotman | WiFiTux: did you actually *read* the logs ? |
| 16:22.09 | asuffield | helix: unfair! |
| 16:22.39 | WiFiTux | abrotman, no. Else I would have known. I was so crazy about the space ITM that I simply removed them. |
| 16:22.58 | abrotman | WiFiTux: i guess that's one way .. are they growing as quickly now ? |
| 16:23.07 | FieldySnuts | consider backups in the future, life saver |
| 16:23.13 | paulswm | No shit. |
| 16:23.26 | FieldySnuts | however, people don't seem to find that out until too late |
| 16:23.30 | TNKS | valdyn, I'm just trying to get a feel for some basic configurations of my computer. I have APIC disabled in the BIOS, and dmesg seems to be reporting things like "ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing" |
| 16:23.30 | tarzeau | why would pkill something in zsh ask me about: kill ? (y/n) and do some sort of ps ? |
| 16:23.45 | paulswm | FieldySnuts: Like the /etc delter earlier today |
| 16:23.49 | paulswm | deleter |
| 16:23.52 | FieldySnuts | someone did that? d'oh |
| 16:24.01 | abrotman | paulswm: delta? :) ... silly southern accent :) |
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| 16:24.04 | slf | e2extract works pretty good |
| 16:24.06 | WiFiTux | abrotman, nop. it was so strange. from 2mb to 700mb each! I never thought I could even ever open them. |
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| 16:24.12 | FieldySnuts | hehe it's okay I once did rm -rf ~someusername/.* (DON'T do that) |
| 16:24.19 | FieldySnuts | as root no less. backups save the day again |
| 16:24.28 | mysurfguide | lol |
| 16:24.38 | FieldySnuts | "wtf did /home go?!" |
| 16:24.54 | ash_ | Anyone know why I am getting the freaking xfce error? |
| 16:24.57 | abrotman | !prise FieldySnuts |
| 16:24.57 | paulswm | <helios> sorry for my english: I was rushing on my prompt (silly me!) and just stopped in time an "rm -rf /etc"...but I deleted all /etc/ |
| 16:25.10 | FieldySnuts | ouch |
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| 16:25.22 | abrotman | paulswm: given it goes alphabetically .. wouldn't /bin and /boot be gone also ? |
| 16:25.28 | abrotman | i think it goes alphabetically |
| 16:25.32 | flawd | can someone explain what "bugs with release-critical severities" means? The bugs are "severe" but not enough to hold back the release? |
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| 16:25.37 | shingouz | ash_: how about telling us what the error is? |
| 16:25.44 | flawd | I am cofnused |
| 16:25.47 | Phated | abrotman: He used "rm -rf /etc", not "rm -rf /" |
| 16:25.48 | flawd | confused even |
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| 16:25.51 | abrotman | flawd: there's a description somewhere |
| 16:25.52 | orchid | ash_: create another user, log on an test that |
| 16:26.10 | ash_ | shingouz: did already Yesterday I deleted my whole /home/ash/ folder and now my XFCE is acting funny i thought it was fixed but now I am getting... xfce4-session: Unable to access file /home/ash/.ICEauthority |
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| 16:26.11 | shingouz | ash_: how about xfce_setup as the user in question, might help a lot |
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| 16:26.16 | idnar | flawd: "release-critical" generally means "we will not release until this bug is gone" |
| 16:26.21 | paulswm | Yup, and then ... <asg> helios: restore from backups. <helios> asg, backups? |
| 16:26.28 | shingouz | ash_: sorry, scrolled a bit ;) |
| 16:26.34 | FieldySnuts | heh famous last words |
| 16:26.35 | ash_ | orchid: ;) |
| 16:26.50 | shingouz | rottweiler? |
| 16:26.55 | ash_ | orchid: If I wanted to create anew user what would I have to do? |
| 16:27.04 | FieldySnuts | /dev/hdf1 38G 29G 8.8G 77% /mnt/backup |
| 16:27.06 | orchid | adduser newdude |
| 16:27.07 | FieldySnuts | yay |
| 16:27.21 | paulswm | !prize FieldySnuts |
| 16:27.24 | ash_ | orchid: I dont need to set any kind of access for xfce? |
| 16:27.28 | FieldySnuts | !medal paulswm |
| 16:27.32 | flawd | idnar yeah but on http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ the page says The red line graphs all bugs with release-critical severities; the green line graphs the number of bugs that are actually a concern for the next release |
| 16:27.36 | paulswm | :D |
| 16:27.39 | orchid | ash_: you using gdm/kdm or what? |
| 16:27.45 | flawd | and that there are Total number of release-critical bugs: 578 |
| 16:27.47 | ash_ | gdm |
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| 16:28.02 | gravity | It's more like 10 |
| 16:28.02 | orchid | ash_: so login with gdm, choose xfce4 |
| 16:28.06 | dvs | flawd: They could just hold back the packages for sid |
| 16:28.06 | flawd | and Number concerning the next release (excluding ignored and not-in-testing): 16 |
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| 16:28.34 | gravity | It's 10. The 16 count includes non-us and a pseudo-package bug, neither of which are a concern for release |
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| 16:28.43 | ash_ | orchid: no I know.. I mean as far as the adduser command... I dont need to give that user any special privilages to get it to work with xfce? |
| 16:28.51 | orchid | ash_: no |
| 16:28.52 | Phated | 10! Almost down to single digits now! |
| 16:28.53 | idnar | flawd: ah |
| 16:29.00 | ash_ | orchid: thanks |
| 16:29.02 | abrotman | Phated: i filed an RC bug two minutes ago |
| 16:29.02 | tarzeau | it's really two |
| 16:29.03 | kanzure | Is it possible to setup a dual monitor system with the onboard video and a vid card? |
| 16:29.08 | Phated | abrotman: YOU SUCK! |
| 16:29.10 | tarzeau | or none |
| 16:29.13 | dvs | abrotman: spoiler! |
| 16:29.13 | abrotman | Phated: i lie@ |
| 16:29.14 | Phated | abrotman: What package? |
| 16:29.15 | idnar | flawd: some release-critical bugs apply to versions of the package that are not in sarge, or packages that are not in sarge at all |
| 16:29.19 | gravity | http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?ignore=sid&new=5&refresh=900 |
| 16:29.20 | Phated | abrotman: YOU SUCK! |
| 16:29.21 | abrotman | Phated: xlibs .. |
| 16:29.27 | Phated | Yes, see above. |
| 16:29.34 | idnar | flawd: they are still release-critical, but as they are not present in what will be released, they do not obstruct the release |
| 16:29.38 | asg | kanzure: look at xinerama |
| 16:29.39 | tarzeau | Phated: hegh /msg dpkg repêat |
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| 16:29.43 | kanzure | asg: an X app? |
| 16:29.45 | slf | the intelligence of a scene is the number of people in a room divided by the stupidest person, i swear. |
| 16:29.47 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Weren't you going to sleep? *nudge* |
| 16:29.49 | gravity | xlibs had better not have another RC bug |
| 16:29.58 | FieldySnuts | nah, someone else said I was, but I'm not |
| 16:29.58 | gravity | I will personally kill the one who finds it |
| 16:30.02 | flawd | idnar why are they in the graph for the relase of sarge if they do not affect sarge at all? |
| 16:30.02 | FieldySnuts | it's early afternoon here |
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| 16:30.04 | abrotman | nagios-common: purging package removed configuration files from another package |
| 16:30.07 | orchid | gravity: heh |
| 16:30.07 | shingouz | kanzure: depends on how the hardware is designed, some mobo's disable the onboard video when you plug in another card |
| 16:30.09 | abrotman | what kidn of retarded bug is that > |
| 16:30.10 | abrotman | ? |
| 16:30.10 | slf | you people are such newbs |
| 16:30.15 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Ah. |
| 16:30.16 | tarzeau | !noob |
| 16:30.16 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 16:30.20 | asg | kanzure: it's a part of X |
| 16:30.31 | kanzure | shingouz: Hm.. that'll suck. How can I figure that out? |
| 16:30.33 | abrotman | cute .. the op leaves .. he returns |
| 16:30.34 | FieldySnuts | slf: please stop trying to get the channel aggitated again, okay? we can all get along. |
| 16:30.35 | idnar | flawd: it's not the "sarge release graph" |
| 16:30.41 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: you know the drill. |
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| 16:30.45 | idnar | flawd: only the green line on that graph applies to sarge |
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| 16:30.52 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: yes |
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| 16:30.54 | flawd | idnar oh |
| 16:31.07 | FieldySnuts | i'll be sure to ignore earlier though, not fair to the chan to complain |
| 16:31.17 | Phated | You know, if you extrapolate that line, sarge will be out somewhere in... July? |
| 16:31.19 | FieldySnuts | damnit i goofed up my e17-cvs install |
| 16:31.24 | asg | kanzure: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/ |
| 16:31.27 | slf | FieldySnuts: was i talking to you? |
| 16:31.30 | shingouz | kanzure: try to use both cards on the computer unless the documentation plainly states that the onboard is disabled. some can be disabled in the bios, some need a jumper or dip to be set. depends on the hardware |
| 16:31.32 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: you should ask Gnea about that |
| 16:31.36 | flawd | idnar that makes alot more sense. I thought that page only described the situation regarding testing to stable |
| 16:31.41 | slf | FieldySnuts: at any time have i indicated that I give a fuck what you think? |
| 16:31.49 | abrotman | heh |
| 16:31.50 | FieldySnuts | helix: here we go again. and i'm ignoring. |
| 16:31.51 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Or jethro, he seems keen on e. |
| 16:31.52 | slf | heard that before. |
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| 16:31.53 | asuffield | slf: oh, do sod off |
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| 16:32.00 | paulswm | !qotd126 |
| 16:32.00 | dpkg | from memory, qotd126 is <helios> sorry for my english: I was rushing on my prompt (silly me!) and just stopped in time an "rm -rf /etc"...but I deleted all /etc/init* files and dirs <asg> helios: restore from backups. <helios> asg, backups? |
| 16:32.01 | orchid | FieldySnuts: are you building e-17 debs from cvs or compiling normally? |
| 16:32.02 | Xenguy | hi again - a question for those knowledgeable about 'deborphan' and 'debfoster' usage... |
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| 16:32.05 | slf | asuffieidl: do i detect a englishman? |
| 16:32.14 | abrotman | Xenguy: what about it ? |
| 16:32.16 | slf | canuck, perhaps? |
| 16:32.18 | FieldySnuts | normally, so it's my fault, i can't complain here |
| 16:32.26 | FieldySnuts | entranced won't start anything but twm now hehe |
| 16:32.27 | tarzeau | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/pod.jpg/ |
| 16:32.36 | FieldySnuts | oh well, no big deal |
| 16:32.43 | helix | slf: what's your problem? |
| 16:32.50 | slf | helix: all these dumbass newbies |
| 16:32.52 | flawd | idnar so the green line is sarge release bugs, and the red line is unstable to testing or what? |
| 16:33.04 | zOap | slf, chill. |
| 16:33.04 | slf | helix: regulars or not, they're collectively retarding the movement that this used to stand for. |
| 16:33.05 | idnar | flawd: the red line is everything in the bts |
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| 16:33.10 | Xenguy | abrotman: I've run 'deborphan'; will running 'debfoster' offer any additional short-term benefits (i.e. disk-space recovered), or will 'deborphan' suffice? |
| 16:33.13 | helix | oh jeez |
| 16:33.13 | flawd | idnar I see ty |
| 16:33.15 | gravity | flawd: There are a number of bugs that are only in unstable, not sarge, so they don't apply to the release |
| 16:33.17 | shingouz | popcorn time i think |
| 16:33.21 | FieldySnuts | helix: he's been saying stuff like this about 12 times so far, till an argument starts |
| 16:33.28 | helix | slf: you do realize you are not helping matters, right? :) |
| 16:33.30 | FieldySnuts | but anyway lemme try to fix my install |
| 16:33.33 | abrotman | Xenguy: afaik .. you have to tell debfoster before you want to reclaim diskspace |
| 16:33.37 | helix | slf: in any case, if you do not stop being abusive, I will ban you. ok? |
| 16:33.46 | slf | helix: they're just buttons, you're on your own with how to respond to the input. |
| 16:33.49 | codester | how do i change my mouse cursor under gnome? cause at the moment it is reverted back to the old X black mouse style |
| 16:34.00 | abrotman | Xenguy: did you apt-get clean ? |
| 16:34.10 | flawd | gravity nod. The page confused me since I somehow got the idea it only described bugs concerning the release of the next stable |
| 16:34.12 | zOap | helix, you op? |
| 16:34.12 | Phated | Xenguy: debfoster just goes through all your packages and asks you what you want to keep, you might see a few packages you do want to remove, which will save some space. Tried apt-get clean? |
| 16:34.17 | helix | yes |
| 16:34.22 | flawd | thank you for clearing this out for me guys |
| 16:34.23 | slf | helix: Uh you mean if I have a mind of my own? and Logic? And Reason? Rationalization perhaps? Analytical thought instead of just a hunch, or a blond-joke-transition-into-heresay-nonsense? |
| 16:34.24 | flawd | :) |
| 16:34.28 | zOap | helix, good |
| 16:34.30 | gravity | flawd: Nope. Just all bugs. There's also things like pseudo-package bugs on there. |
| 16:34.35 | slf | i'll save you the trouble. |
| 16:34.37 | slf | *yawn* |
| 16:34.38 | flawd | nice |
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| 16:34.39 | Xenguy | abrotman: (after reading about both of them, I'm inclined to take the lazy route and stop with 'deborphan' -- unless I'm missing something) |
| 16:34.39 | *** mode/#debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
| 16:34.40 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 16:34.41 | FieldySnuts | thank god. |
| 16:34.43 | helix | oh good |
| 16:34.50 | abrotman | ban him anyways .. please ? |
| 16:34.50 | shingouz | thanks helix |
| 16:34.51 | FieldySnuts | he'll be back though, he's done this at least 3 times |
| 16:34.53 | helix | I hate it when the ban list scrolls |
| 16:34.55 | FieldySnuts | yeah, please do ban |
| 16:35.02 | paulswm | Yes, I vote for ban |
| 16:35.09 | shingouz | ditto |
| 16:35.09 | FieldySnuts | or +q maybe |
| 16:35.10 | asuffield | this is not a democracy |
| 16:35.15 | Phated | Fourthed. |
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| 16:35.20 | dvs | Fifth |
| 16:35.21 | FieldySnuts | asuffield: then your opinion doesn't matter :) |
| 16:35.26 | abrotman | asg: warm beer movement ? |
| 16:35.28 | Xenguy | abrotman Phated yep, I know about apt-get clean, thanks |
| 16:35.30 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@support4.jupiterhosting.com] by helix |
| 16:35.30 | abrotman | asuffield: are you sure? |
| 16:35.32 | FieldySnuts | german beer? |
| 16:35.33 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 16:35.37 | gravity | helix: Thanks |
| 16:35.38 | abrotman | helix: thank you |
| 16:35.42 | codester | anyone know how to change the mouse cursor under gnome? |
| 16:35.42 | paulswm | !medal FieldySnuts |
| 16:35.44 | Phated | !beer helix |
| 16:35.45 | war- | awk '/cache size/ {print $4}' /proc/cpuinfo <- that gets the cache size of your CPU, but say the line was "the cache is 512kb" OR "the cache size is definitely 512kb" - then $4 would not match 512kb, how do you match the 512kb no matter where it is in the string? |
| 16:35.46 | FieldySnuts | lol |
| 16:35.47 | shingouz | ty helix |
| 16:35.48 | paulswm | Noooo |
| 16:35.50 | asg | abrotman: I'm a huge fan of the right beer being served at the right temperature, yes. |
| 16:35.58 | abrotman | asg: you bud drinker! |
| 16:36.01 | FieldySnuts | ew bud |
| 16:36.02 | asuffield | Phated: you don't know helix, do you? :P |
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| 16:36.03 | FieldySnuts | you-rine |
| 16:36.07 | paulswm | For " then your opinion doesn't matter" |
| 16:36.11 | Phated | Oh, yes. |
| 16:36.13 | Phated | !veggie helix |
| 16:36.19 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: aussiesmite paulswm |
| 16:36.20 | ravenbird | paulswm: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
| 16:36.21 | Phated | :( |
| 16:36.22 | helix | there is also nearbeer or something |
| 16:36.27 | FieldySnuts | what's that? |
| 16:36.28 | abrotman | asuffield: we don't have a !veggie helix .. do we ? |
| 16:36.34 | gravity | heh... that should be a catch phrase. "You don't know helix." |
| 16:36.39 | asuffield | abrotman: I have no idea |
| 16:36.41 | FieldySnuts | do i wanna even know what veggie was |
| 16:36.42 | paulswm | !veggiesmite helix |
| 16:36.45 | paulswm | There |
| 16:36.46 | Phated | There we go! |
| 16:36.48 | FieldySnuts | eh |
| 16:36.53 | abrotman | !helixsmite paulswm |
| 16:36.56 | helix | I'm underwhelmed |
| 16:36.57 | flawd | mmm veggies |
| 16:36.59 | Phated | Eeep. |
| 16:36.59 | paulswm | o.O |
| 16:37.00 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 16:37.04 | shingouz | i do not want to know... |
| 16:37.08 | abrotman | i so didn't write that .. don't blame me |
| 16:37.18 | asg | abrotman: actually, the perfect temperature I've found for a bottled lager is defined by: 1) open bottle before going to bed. 2) drink when you wake up. |
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| 16:37.25 | BenDrake | hellp |
| 16:37.29 | BenDrake | er.. hello |
| 16:37.32 | shingouz | ask |
| 16:37.37 | dvs | I think you were right the first time |
| 16:37.38 | shingouz | :) |
| 16:37.39 | abrotman | asg: uhm .. i've done that .. but usually after a night of drinking .. doesn't go over so well :) |
| 16:37.46 | FieldySnuts | heh one of the rules in that monty python sketch at the aussie university of walamaloo "I don't want to catch ANYONE NOT DRINKING after 10 pm!!" |
| 16:37.53 | BenDrake | I am trying to get my lexmark x73 printer scanner to work |
| 16:37.56 | helix | you drinkers are disgusting |
| 16:38.00 | asg | abrotman: lightweight. |
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| 16:38.13 | FieldySnuts | i'm not a drinker, german beer, some hard stuff once in a while and that's it. definately not regular |
| 16:38.18 | shingouz | helix: i'll drink to that. a coke |
| 16:38.23 | Phated | Coke! |
| 16:38.27 | helix | how about juice or water? |
| 16:38.27 | Phated | !cokesmite me |
| 16:38.28 | FieldySnuts | blow? |
| 16:38.30 | abrotman | asg: you drink 10 yuengling lagers .. then get up and start again with the first thing in your mouth being another :) |
| 16:38.33 | asuffield | coke is almost as bad |
| 16:38.34 | Phated | Tea! |
| 16:38.35 | shingouz | helix: that is good too. and tea |
| 16:38.40 | tarzeau | !cocksmite Phated |
| 16:38.40 | paulswm | !ganjasmite FieldySnuts |
| 16:38.41 | helix | no, no tea for me |
| 16:38.42 | orchid | <-- worst drinker ever |
| 16:38.46 | FieldySnuts | ....... |
| 16:38.50 | shingouz | FieldySnuts: not blow but the sloshy kind |
| 16:38.51 | abrotman | asg: coffee ? |
| 16:38.53 | flawd | BenDrake what is the problem` |
| 16:38.53 | Phated | helix: Oh, hush, don't you have a carrot to eat? |
| 16:38.54 | asuffield | it's a supersaturation of sugar in water, combined with crap that can strip paint |
| 16:38.54 | lewis | is an empty lost+found directory in /home safe to delete? |
| 16:38.54 | flawd | ? |
| 16:38.55 | asg | abrotman: Yuengling is too hoppy and dries me out in no time. |
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| 16:39.01 | FieldySnuts | !win Phated |
| 16:39.02 | ash_ | how do you reconfigure alsa? |
| 16:39.02 | dpkg | Congratulations, Phated! You have won the US presidency! |
| 16:39.04 | helix | mmm, carrots |
| 16:39.07 | abrotman | asg: yes .. but it's like $2 a bottle around here :) |
| 16:39.08 | Phated | There. |
| 16:39.20 | asg | abrotman: yes, nothing better than a nice black coffee (well, with some milk and sugar in it.) |
| 16:39.26 | shingouz | tea about as black as a minight is good |
| 16:39.27 | dvs | ash_: alsaconf |
| 16:39.27 | FieldySnuts | lewis: the contents of, if you don't need it yes. but leave the directory itself there |
| 16:39.28 | abrotman | asg: how about juice ? |
| 16:39.43 | helix | hot drinks in the summer in florida aren't good |
| 16:39.51 | shingouz | icetea :) |
| 16:39.52 | asg | abrotman: grapefruit juice on special occasions (when I can't get milk, coffee, or beer.) |
| 16:39.53 | lewis | FieldySnuts: ah ok - directory was empty. |
| 16:39.55 | helix | wait, Phated, your climate is just like mine. wtf? |
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| 16:40.02 | helix | iced tea is super bleh |
| 16:40.08 | abrotman | mmm .. wheat beer in the summer |
| 16:40.12 | WhiteRabbit | malt liquor mmm Red Bull |
| 16:40.12 | Phated | helix: Meh? I like tea. |
| 16:40.14 | flawd | BenDrake what is the problem? |
| 16:40.31 | asg | shingouz: s/warm/sweltering/ |
| 16:40.32 | lewis | can I delete the /home/ftp directory, if I don't have anonymous ftp enabled? |
| 16:40.33 | FieldySnuts | whatchew talkin aboot willis |
| 16:40.36 | helix | daytona is a shanty town |
| 16:40.38 | shingouz | asg: just warm |
| 16:40.42 | tarzeau | WhiteRabbit: ahh Red Bull, from the fridge |
| 16:40.47 | Phated | helix: Plenty of people drink hot drinks around here. |
| 16:40.47 | tarzeau | WhiteRabbit: minus liquor |
| 16:40.48 | helix | asg: daytona's on the beach so it doesn't get that bad |
| 16:40.50 | shingouz | helix: i know but it sure as helll beats this place |
| 16:40.51 | abrotman | helix: that was generous to say :) |
| 16:40.53 | BenDrake | it will allow it to print.. but it will detect the scanner, and wont allow it to work.. |
| 16:40.54 | helix | miami, otoh, is disgusting |
| 16:40.55 | WhiteRabbit | porkchop sandwitch |
| 16:41.05 | helix | Phated: your people are morons |
| 16:41.11 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 16:41.11 | asg | helix: on the beach with a breeze true, 1 mile inland ... armpit weather. |
| 16:41.16 | Phated | helix: Your people are pathetic. |
| 16:41.21 | helix | I have no people |
| 16:41.26 | Phated | Precisely. |
| 16:41.34 | asuffield | Phated: your people made a ridiculous fuss about two schoolgirls kissing |
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| 16:41.43 | Phated | Oh, shut up, do. |
| 16:41.49 | helix | in theory, my people keep killing little girls |
| 16:41.54 | asuffield | Phated: I bet you were one of them |
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| 16:42.00 | FieldySnuts | yeah, you can get away with that in florida. or at least protecting the killer. |
| 16:42.01 | helix | it is hunting season in florida |
| 16:42.01 | shingouz | asg: move your butt here to western siberia and you wish the temps would go up to 70 |
| 16:42.05 | flawd | BenDrake It behaves the same way as root and user? user is in scanner group? |
| 16:42.09 | abrotman | helix: it always is .. new law :) |
| 16:42.17 | FieldySnuts | i like how they won't prosecute those three guys that knew where that girl was, before she died |
| 16:42.22 | Xenguy | asuffield: that cola definition was classic; I'm keeping it :P |
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| 16:42.28 | helix | abrotman: there's a law that allows it to be hutning season on little girls all year? |
| 16:42.28 | FieldySnuts | anyway </politics> |
| 16:42.44 | TwistedEmotions | ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Permission denied |
| 16:42.44 | TwistedEmotions | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:42.45 | abrotman | helix: the "I feel threatened law" your governor just passed |
| 16:42.55 | helix | TwistedEmotions: la -la /dev/dsp ? |
| 16:42.56 | dvs | TwistedEmotions: Are you part of the audio group? |
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| 16:43.00 | abrotman | TwistedEmotions: are oyu in the audio group ? |
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| 16:43.30 | TwistedEmotions | Errr... I guess I'm not... didnt know I needed to be... how do I add myself to that? |
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| 16:43.44 | abrotman | !tell TwistedEmotions about audio |
| 16:43.44 | BenDrake | doesnt work either way |
| 16:43.46 | shingouz | TwistedEmotions: yes |
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| 16:43.59 | codester | how can i change my mouse cursor under gnome? |
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| 16:44.13 | zOap | codester, why would you? |
| 16:44.22 | FieldySnuts | !confuse e17-cvs setup |
| 16:44.23 | dpkg | Yes, those is their pants yesterday, e17-cvs setup? lederhosen of the dictatorship of mongolia with extra crabpaste |
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| 16:44.32 | FieldySnuts | cabpaste? nice addition |
| 16:44.43 | abrotman | codester: it's not nearly as easy as it should be |
| 16:44.43 | codester | zOap: its reverted to the old style cursor |
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| 16:44.53 | flawd | BenDrake dunno sorry |
| 16:44.56 | flawd | good luck |
| 16:44.57 | zOap | oh, try the control panel and mouse |
| 16:45.05 | TwistedEmotions | sudo adduser linux audio |
| 16:45.05 | TwistedEmotions | Adding user `linux' to group `audio'... |
| 16:45.05 | TwistedEmotions | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:45.15 | dvs | TwistedEmotions: Log out |
| 16:45.16 | codester | zOap: nah its not in there |
| 16:45.29 | mysurfguide | weird now I get "hdc: lost interrupt" |
| 16:45.31 | abrotman | TwistedEmotions: did you log out ? |
| 16:45.32 | zOap | hmm, can't help you. maybe someone else can |
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| 16:45.35 | TwistedEmotions | dvs: logout of gdm? |
| 16:45.39 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman, no |
| 16:45.44 | dvs | TwistedEmotions: yes |
| 16:45.46 | abrotman | TwistedEmotions: you should |
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| 16:45.53 | codester | abrotman: do you know how i can change it back to what it was ? |
| 16:45.54 | dvs | TwistedEmotions: like the instructions said |
| 16:46.09 | abrotman | codester: i'm checking |
| 16:46.17 | TwistedEmotions | kk thanks ;) dvs: I read selectively I guess ;) |
| 16:46.20 | codester | abrotman: thanks =) |
| 16:46.20 | abrotman | codester: though i just noticed mine reverted too :) |
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| 16:46.50 | codester | abrotman: mine was reverted cause i installed artwiz-cursor |
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| 16:47.10 | abrotman | codester: /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme .. point it at the theme you want |
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| 16:47.17 | zOap | codester, use ion and you'll soon discover that a mouse is unneeded:) |
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| 16:47.29 | abrotman | zOap: that's a really shitty answer |
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| 16:47.40 | codester | abrotman: thanks |
| 16:47.40 | resuDaed | afternoon... just wondering how difficult it is to run x on a non primary gfx card? |
| 16:47.47 | abrotman | codester: think you can handle it from there ? |
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| 16:47.52 | zOap | abrotman, I know, it was just for fun, no pun intended |
| 16:47.55 | codester | abrotman: yep |
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| 16:48.20 | abrotman | aw crap .. my whole mouse theme is gone |
| 16:48.22 | abrotman | god damn it |
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| 16:49.17 | Czesiu | hello |
| 16:49.37 | gravity | abrotman: Screw you |
| 16:49.42 | abrotman | gravity: ? |
| 16:49.46 | abrotman | what did i do? |
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| 16:50.06 | gravity | Rather than lart the XSF you could, like, help out |
| 16:50.12 | FieldySnuts | wah. |
| 16:50.23 | abrotman | gravity: oh .. no .. my mouse theme is gone :) |
| 16:50.28 | abrotman | gravity: it's not that severe :) |
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| 16:50.36 | gravity | Then don't bitch about it |
| 16:50.44 | FieldySnuts | someone needs a pacifier. |
| 16:50.50 | zOap | wow, gravity, chill |
| 16:50.50 | abrotman | gravity: well .. it did remove them .. without warning |
| 16:51.03 | gravity | zOap: I *am* a member of the XSF |
| 16:51.06 | TwistedEmotions | Is there anyway to move all the adduser settings from one user to another? |
| 16:51.10 | *** part/#debian largezhang (~largezhan@cm185.omega176.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 16:51.12 | gravity | And I'm kind of working on it. So... yeah. |
| 16:51.17 | gravity | Blow me. |
| 16:51.17 | zOap | gravity, hehe, lol, ok:) |
| 16:51.23 | abrotman | gravity: oh wait .. i've got one for you then :) |
| 16:51.24 | TwistedEmotions | Like all the groups they're in and all that? |
| 16:51.27 | FieldySnuts | you are really representing the XSF *very* well. |
| 16:51.32 | abrotman | gravity: and it is potentially severe |
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| 16:51.34 | FieldySnuts | are all XFS members such cocks? |
| 16:51.41 | gravity | FieldySnuts: Why yes. Yes we are. |
| 16:51.41 | FieldySnuts | XSF |
| 16:51.46 | abrotman | gravity: i'm actually serious |
| 16:51.49 | FieldySnuts | okay, just so I know. i'll remember. |
| 16:51.50 | gravity | abrotman: What is it? |
| 16:51.51 | shingouz | TwistedEmotions: /etc/defaults? |
| 16:51.53 | TNKS | does anybody know a quick way to see if a system has an io-apic? |
| 16:51.55 | dvs | FieldySnuts: You missed their old slogan |
| 16:51.59 | abrotman | gravity: gotta track it down .. moment |
| 16:52.13 | gravity | I've been working on X.org stuff, but I can take a look really fast |
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| 16:52.26 | WiFiTux | Hey, nobody has done like a cheers song for IRC? something like: sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your nick, and they are always glad you came, you wanna be were people are all the same, were everybody knows your name :/ |
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| 16:52.33 | FieldySnuts | what's xsf's web site anyway |
| 16:52.40 | zOap | Man, I feel so much anger, We all need a girl... |
| 16:52.49 | FieldySnuts | already a few in here.. |
| 16:53.01 | abrotman | gravity: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=272294 |
| 16:53.03 | zOap | It is? whio who who who?:D |
| 16:53.04 | dvs | In think he means in person |
| 16:53.24 | abrotman | gravity: i got around it by disabling all GL screensavers .. and i don't play many games .. so i can't test the GL there |
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| 16:53.27 | tarzeau | hey raboof |
| 16:53.27 | paulswm | There are several girls, or should I say goddesses, in here |
| 16:53.31 | abrotman | !xsf |
| 16:53.32 | dpkg | xsf is, like, the X Strike Force, home of Debian's XFree86 packages, at http://people.debian.org/~branden/, or http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/NEWS.xhtml |
| 16:53.36 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: ^^ |
| 16:53.36 | raboof | evening tarzeau |
| 16:53.44 | zOap | aaaah, I looooove godesses:) |
| 16:53.45 | FieldySnuts | ok |
| 16:53.51 | WiFiTux | zOap, you are the only one without one. |
| 16:53.54 | Phated | zOap: I suppose you need to be laids. |
| 16:53.54 | FieldySnuts | 404 on that url. |
| 16:53.58 | Phated | Ahem, laid. |
| 16:54.02 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 16:54.03 | abrotman | laids is good too |
| 16:54.06 | zOap | haha, I might:D |
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| 16:54.15 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: the second |
| 16:54.17 | user___ | how can i specify a proxy server to be usid with apt connections? |
| 16:54.22 | FieldySnuts | that url needs corrected. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |
| 16:54.31 | Phated | zOap: And you -really- think girls are just going to lay you. |
| 16:54.35 | Phated | You are deluded. |
| 16:54.39 | user___ | s/usid/used |
| 16:54.40 | mysurfguide | lol |
| 16:54.41 | tarzeau | does someone prefer $SHELL job control over screen ? |
| 16:54.44 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: he stopped using it afaik |
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| 16:54.51 | shingouz | !phated++ |
| 16:55.00 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: they both owrk |
| 16:55.00 | Phated | Woo, karma. |
| 16:55.03 | zOap | Phated, no, not at all. But that doesn't mean that I don't need to get laid:) |
| 16:55.03 | Xenguy | tarzeau: why not use both? :-) |
| 16:55.05 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: just not with a comma on the end |
| 16:55.06 | abrotman | !sf |
| 16:55.07 | dpkg | somebody said sf was sourceforge, at http://www.sourceforge.net, or san francisco |
| 16:55.09 | abrotman | !xsf |
| 16:55.09 | dpkg | xsf is, like, the X Strike Force, home of Debian's XFree86 packages, at http://people.debian.org/~branden/, or http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/NEWS.xhtml |
| 16:55.09 | takatumi | shingouz: kissing butt to get laid? :P |
| 16:55.10 | gravity | abrotman: There are two things to be done. The workaround is that the GL screensavers are enormously buggy in my experience, so they often crash things. Two is that upstream may have a fix for you. |
| 16:55.23 | gravity | abrotman: If upstream doesn't fix it, we'd have to track the problem down further. |
| 16:55.24 | Phated | zOap: I fail to see how girls in here will help you, then. Go find a hooker or something. |
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| 16:55.25 | shingouz | takatumi, Phated: nope, just that her point was so good |
| 16:55.28 | abrotman | !xfs s#branden/,#branden/ # |
| 16:55.33 | abrotman | !xfs =~ s#branden/,#branden/ # |
| 16:55.33 | dpkg | that doesn't contain 'branden/,', abrotman |
| 16:55.41 | abrotman | it did dam nit |
| 16:55.48 | tarzeau | i wonder if someone enjoys playing freedroid ? |
| 16:56.00 | Phated | !xfs |
| 16:56.01 | dpkg | hmm... xfs is the filesystem developed by SGI for high-performance journalling and large disk support. see http://linux-xfs.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ or http://www.lwfug.org/debian/ for xfs deb tools and deb kernels, or far better and more mature than reiserfs, but not as mature (in linux) as ext3. check out http://people.debian.org/~blade/XFS-Install/ if you want to install woody with XFS support, or more ISOs are at ... |
| 16:56.05 | Phated | Ehm. |
| 16:56.09 | abrotman | gravity: i haven't tried it in quite some time .. never got a contact back from XSF .. i'm just optimistic that xorg will fix it |
| 16:56.12 | Phated | !xsf |
| 16:56.13 | dpkg | hmm... xsf is the X Strike Force, home of Debian's XFree86 packages, at http://people.debian.org/~branden/, or http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/NEWS.xhtml |
| 16:56.17 | Phated | abrotman: No, it didn't. ;) |
| 16:56.28 | zOap | Phated, well, I don't know what to reply to that... I can find a girl outside IRC... no? |
| 16:56.35 | abrotman | !xsf =~ s#branden/,#branden/ # |
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| 16:56.36 | dpkg | abrotman: OK |
| 16:56.36 | paulswm | !lose abrotman |
| 16:56.36 | dpkg | abrotman: You Lose. |
| 16:56.38 | abrotman | yay |
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| 16:56.44 | idnar | heh |
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| 16:57.00 | shingouz | furrywolf: a milkbone? ;) |
| 16:57.01 | abrotman | furrywolf: you should talk to furrywolf .. he always wants more sex |
| 16:57.02 | raboof | furrywolf: nack |
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| 16:57.03 | Phated | zOap: Precisely, which is why girls in here won't be helping, eh? |
| 16:57.05 | idnar | now it has a double space in it |
| 16:57.08 | gravity | abrotman: Well, I'm very optimistic that X.Org can enter experimental really soon. It's basically dependant on when I finish it. |
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| 16:57.18 | furrywolf | abrotman: huh? |
| 16:57.19 | gravity | abrotman: Although it'll probably be a while until it gets in to unstable. |
| 16:57.20 | abrotman | gravity: quick slacking |
| 16:57.22 | idnar | !xsf =~ s/ / / |
| 16:57.22 | dpkg | idnar: OK |
| 16:57.27 | Phated | furrywolf: Come off it, you're the one always pasting links to sex toys. |
| 16:57.28 | takatumi | \o/ X.org |
| 16:57.28 | gravity | abrotman: It's building right now |
| 16:57.32 | abrotman | gravity: dunno why .. just dump it in :) |
| 16:57.41 | gravity | heh |
| 16:57.45 | dvs | gravity: you won't get in trouble. ;-) |
| 16:57.47 | abrotman | gravity: as long as it doesn't eat the system .. who cares |
| 16:57.48 | gravity | We're not ubuntu. We don't do source-only uploads |
| 16:57.58 | abrotman | gravity: and if you can make them co-exist in unstable .. even better |
| 16:58.04 | gravity | Not gonna happen |
| 16:58.08 | abrotman | gravity: do eet! |
| 16:58.15 | zOap | Phated, did I say that a girl in here should help ME? |
| 16:58.27 | Phated | zOap: It was implied. |
| 16:58.39 | furrywolf | phated: liking sex toys doesn't mean that I'm not far more interested in someone to snuggle and hold tight and have kids and grow old together with... |
| 16:58.48 | Phated | zOap: Besides, if all else fails, "you started it". |
| 16:58.51 | abrotman | furrywolf: pups |
| 16:58.56 | paulswm | HAH |
| 16:58.56 | takatumi | furrywolf: that's how it starts. |
| 16:59.02 | zOap | Phated, well, I don't think my english is as good as anything i write is implied:D |
| 16:59.07 | Phated | furrywolf: And how, precisely, does someone wanting a lay mean that he or she does NOT want the mentioned? |
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| 16:59.14 | nagual | furrywolf: but i bet youd rahter have a lifemate that also likes sextoys :) |
| 16:59.14 | zOap | Phated, hehe, lol:) |
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| 16:59.50 | zOap | Phated, I guess, you're not a girl? |
| 16:59.51 | gravity | shingouz: :-) |
| 16:59.54 | furrywolf | phated: dunno, but it seems to. for example, when was the last time you say a guy complaining about not getting laid that had a brain, was more mature than a 3 year old, or didn't see women as objects? |
| 16:59.55 | gravity | That's a terrifying thought |
| 16:59.58 | paulswm | shingouz: no debian-animal-sex |
| 16:59.59 | abrotman | bah .. where did my mouse go |
| 17:00.01 | De_Mon | shingouz I'm been trying to figure that one out too |
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| 17:00.08 | De_Mon | s/m/ve/ |
| 17:00.12 | tarzeau | paulswm: does that include insects? |
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| 17:00.14 | takatumi | abrotman: you didn't sit on it did ya? |
| 17:00.15 | dvs | abrotman: Look under the couch |
| 17:00.19 | paulswm | tarzeau: HAH |
| 17:00.20 | gravity | furrywolf: Sadly I see it a lot. Too many guys with no spine, but with all the other good stuff going for them |
| 17:00.21 | zOap | abrotman, did gnome totally kill your mouse now? |
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| 17:00.32 | Phated | furrywolf: I want a lay. Does that mean I -automatically- am immature as a three-year-old, lack a brain, and see women as sex objects? |
| 17:00.37 | paulswm | tarzeau: Well we all get fucked by bugs now and then :) |
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| 17:00.41 | abrotman | zOap: yeah .. but it's been days since i noticed :) |
| 17:00.48 | zOap | lol |
| 17:00.52 | abrotman | zOap: and not gnome .. X |
| 17:00.59 | De_Mon | wouldn't it be 'men' not women? |
| 17:01.01 | abrotman | gnome doesn't contorl my mouse |
| 17:01.07 | toresbe | De_Mon: normally, yes |
| 17:01.10 | Phated | De_Mon: Both. |
| 17:01.11 | De_Mon | agh, you will not suck me into this stupid conversation, i'm going to play guildwars |
| 17:01.19 | furrywolf | phated: yes, but do you go to random channels and ask about it from strangers? :P |
| 17:01.23 | tarzeau | De_Mon: guildwars? /me checks... |
| 17:01.23 | gravity | De_Mon: Good call :-) |
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| 17:01.36 | abrotman | god damn it .. |
| 17:01.37 | FieldySnuts | er lays on. |
| 17:01.39 | tarzeau | De_Mon: not in debian, eh? |
| 17:01.46 | Phated | furrywolf: I don't see anyone here asking to be laid, either. |
| 17:01.47 | toresbe | hmm, I want to build a variation of guild wars... |
| 17:01.49 | tarzeau | FieldySnuts: in nethack you can lay eggs |
| 17:01.50 | toresbe | Guilt wars!! |
| 17:01.52 | De_Mon | tarzeau windows only I'm afraid |
| 17:01.58 | furrywolf | zOap? :P |
| 17:02.00 | FieldySnuts | Oo |
| 17:02.01 | tarzeau | De_Mon: infidel! |
| 17:02.11 | takatumi | heh |
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| 17:02.20 | zOap | furrywolf, huh?:) |
| 17:02.30 | toresbe | "You want to hurt your mother? Sure, go ahead, I only RAISED you! And gave you food, and you want to go out just like that with your new boyfriend." |
| 17:02.32 | alekibango | zOap: get some porn and spend a honeymoon with it, lol |
| 17:02.49 | alekibango | maybe you will find a firm relation to it |
| 17:02.49 | Phated | furrywolf: He didn't -ask- for it. Just because -you- happened to see him mention wanting a lay does not mean he was asking for it. |
| 17:02.55 | zOap | alekibango, I'm married, my porn is all I got:) |
| 17:03.12 | Phated | furrywolf: Further, don't you profess tolerance and stuff? How about exercising it? |
| 17:03.32 | asuffield | hah, Phated likes porn |
| 17:03.36 | burd | just a little info, i just did a sarge upgrade and using lilo I had my kernels as such.. default="Linux 2.6.8-1" with the new lilo this didn't work, I had to remove any spaces and the quotes otherwise i got >> fatal:default kernel not found >> checked debian list and the only answer was to install grub, this is a simple fix in case anyone hasn't come across it yet |
| 17:03.38 | alekibango | btw furrywolf is right... boys you should read www.savethemales.ca |
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| 17:03.46 | FieldySnuts | we knew that :) at least, I did. |
| 17:04.00 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Thanks, now they all know. |
| 17:04.07 | FieldySnuts | "boys", what is this, high school? |
| 17:04.14 | zOap | well, you can't say much in here and get away with it:) |
| 17:04.24 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Kindergarten. |
| 17:04.33 | paulswm | You don't have a tail you twit |
| 17:04.34 | FieldySnuts | ah |
| 17:04.36 | alekibango | FieldySnuts: most people talking about getting laid are <30 :) |
| 17:04.46 | FieldySnuts | i'd get more specific, <26 |
| 17:04.46 | Phated | furrywolf: Indeed. Back, now, and don't return for about six hours, shoo, go on. |
| 17:04.50 | alekibango | lol |
| 17:04.55 | drac | 23yrs <3 |
| 17:05.00 | zOap | FieldySnuts, I'm 28...... |
| 17:05.02 | tarzeau | alekibango, FieldySnuts and those over, just get laid and don't talk? |
| 17:05.03 | furrywolf | paulswm: and what kind of a comment is that? |
| 17:05.11 | shingouz | kids, don't fight |
| 17:05.23 | asuffield | furrywolf: an accurate one, I'd say |
| 17:05.24 | zOap | shingouz, hear hear |
| 17:05.27 | paulswm | furrywolf: a factual one. |
| 17:05.36 | Phated | !paulswm++ |
| 17:05.36 | FieldySnuts | tarzeau: they have maturity. it turns from just banging someone into making love, and no need to run around and brag about it |
| 17:05.47 | FieldySnuts | can't expect men to be too mature anyway </troll> |
| 17:05.48 | furrywolf | don't make me go get my faux fur tail out of the garage. :P |
| 17:06.01 | alekibango | hmmm.. may should be gone... |
| 17:06.10 | alekibango | but most channels still fight with it |
| 17:06.24 | Phated | furrywolf: Please do. Take a picture. We'll point and snigger. |
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| 17:06.34 | furrywolf | phated: too much work |
| 17:06.37 | FieldySnuts | nice. my web server went down |
| 17:06.44 | shingouz | Phated: snigger? laugh |
| 17:06.46 | furrywolf | and I don't take pictures of me. somehow they always end up on GBS. |
| 17:06.49 | tarzeau | can someone ban me for only the weekends please? |
| 17:06.53 | FieldySnuts | first time in a half year, no biggie |
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| 17:07.11 | raboof | to get back on topic (sorta), i was curious about what the last 16 rc bugs of sarge are. so I ticked the Include boxes for `sarge' and `critical' on bugs.debian.org and hit `Find', only that gives me an error message |
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| 17:07.20 | raboof | is that a bug or am i doing something wrong? |
| 17:07.22 | FieldySnuts | yikes, route failure three hops up from it, now that's bad |
| 17:07.31 | tarzeau | raboof: check the /topic of #debian-bugs |
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| 17:07.42 | tarzeau | raboof: it's only about 3 now |
| 17:07.44 | zOap | FieldySnuts, did you say something bad to someone in here?:D |
| 17:07.50 | raboof | oh sweet |
| 17:07.50 | tarzeau | (well when i checked some hours ago) |
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| 17:08.08 | FieldySnuts | oh i'm sure I did, not a single person here knows the address of my stuff though |
| 17:08.16 | tarzeau | raboof: you'll have a party too? |
| 17:08.24 | zOap | FieldySnuts, yeah:) hehe:) |
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| 17:08.36 | FieldySnuts | zOap: are you trying to threaten me? |
| 17:08.58 | zOap | FieldySnuts, no no, not in any way, I'm just trying to be humerous |
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| 17:09.03 | raboof | tarzeau: heh, not sure, might be a nice idea :) |
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| 17:09.33 | DrX | hello, is there a command to retrive information about the processor on the system ? |
| 17:09.39 | FieldySnuts | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 17:09.45 | TwistedEmotions | I have a install script here and when I try and run it I get access denied and they when I sudo it I get file not found... I hate my life.. I mean anyone know how to open this fawqer? |
| 17:09.49 | zOap | FieldySnuts, I just came to think of that dude who tried to hack someone in a channel which abused him.. and he hacked 127.0.0.0. |
| 17:09.50 | zOap | :) |
| 17:10.00 | shingouz | dammit, i just hate it when xchat crashes |
| 17:10.12 | DrX | FieldySnuts: thanks |
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| 17:12.04 | raboof | anyway |
| 17:12.28 | paulswm | I've never had xchat crash. |
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| 17:12.36 | zOap | Aaah, I just rememberred I'm out of soap.. Have to go buy some... See ya later |
| 17:13.02 | Bachus9000 | I've been trying to get hostnames working on a mixed Windows & Linux (Debian sarge, to be specific) without using DNS, WINS, or inserting the hostnames into /etc/hosts. At this point, the Windows pcs can ping the sarge machines using the hostname, but none of the debian machines can ping the Windows machines or each other with the hostname. Everything works flawlessly if I stick to the ip addresses, but I would rather not do that s |
| 17:13.02 | Bachus9000 | times it can be difficult to remember which pc has which ip. :) |
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| 17:13.26 | Gnurdux | will gnome 2.10 and kernel 2.6.11 go into testing the day sarge comes out? |
| 17:13.28 | tarzeau | raboof: someone organizes one on 11 june here in zurich... (on the debian.net wiki, called release party) |
| 17:13.35 | shingouz | paulswm: i think it may have somethign to do with the fact that this is a dual with EISA and the latest xchat that i have managed to get really working is 1.8.9 for some reason. besides i like the 1.x gui better than the 2.x :) |
| 17:13.46 | Gnurdux | Bachus9000, never gotten that working |
| 17:13.54 | tarzeau | raboof: here: http://wiki.debian.net/?ReleaseParty |
| 17:14.04 | Gnurdux | basically, not part of linux's hostname resolver |
| 17:14.06 | shingouz | paulswm: with the 2.6 kernel xchat looks like it stays up for about a month or so at a time |
| 17:14.11 | zOap | shingouz, I totally agree |
| 17:14.16 | Gnurdux | linux uses dns |
| 17:14.32 | FieldySnuts | you can use a combination of samba, bind/named and dhcpd |
| 17:14.34 | Gnurdux | basically windows system uses broadcast |
| 17:14.38 | paulswm | shingouz: Ah, I'm running 2.4.1 with 2.6.8 kernel |
| 17:14.47 | Gnurdux | it broadcasts and asks everyone to tell their hostname |
| 17:14.55 | Gnurdux | or it broadcasts a hostname |
| 17:14.55 | powerson_ | anyone used fglrx drive in AMD64? |
| 17:15.00 | FieldySnuts | enable wins in samba. make it the domain/workgroup wins server. have dhcpd assign hosts names. have dhcpd tell the dns server about them. |
| 17:15.01 | Gnurdux | and an ip says "me!" |
| 17:15.14 | Gnurdux | he doenst want to use wins |
| 17:15.15 | FieldySnuts | powerson_: you can't, ati still doesn't have a 64 bit version |
| 17:15.26 | shingouz | paulswm: 2.6.10 and 1.8.9. realtime patches in the kernel |
| 17:15.30 | FieldySnuts | in a windows network you're going to end up using something like that, have fun trying |
| 17:15.30 | Gnurdux | its called NetBios name resolution i think |
| 17:15.40 | Gnurdux | and i dont know how to set it up in linux |
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| 17:15.43 | powerson_ | FieldySnuts// there is fglrx drive in ati homepate. |
| 17:15.46 | FieldySnuts | i know, i'm an admin and have to take care of such a mess |
| 17:15.54 | FieldySnuts | not 64 bit. |
| 17:15.58 | powerson_ | FieldySnuts// there is fglrx drive in ati homepate for amd64. |
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| 17:16.04 | FieldySnuts | news to me then |
| 17:16.11 | FieldySnuts | ask ati, proprietary driver, not ours |
| 17:16.20 | tarzeau | you can use "vesa" |
| 17:16.36 | tarzeau | or run 32bit mode :) |
| 17:17.02 | Gnurdux | can 64bint x use 32bit drivers (I wouldnt know, im on a p4) |
| 17:17.18 | Gnurdux | Unpacking replacement libc6 ... |
| 17:17.30 | powerson_ | FieldySnuts// Can i don't used driver in ati homepage for 64bit? |
| 17:17.36 | FieldySnuts | huh? |
| 17:18.14 | abrotman | Gnurdux: only if you have multiarch installed .. and even them i'm not sure |
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| 17:18.25 | Bachus9000 | Well, I wouldn't be so dead set against using DNS or WINS if I hadn't had this working in Gentoo 8 months ago...or at least I'm pretty sure I did. I guess now that I think of it I don't believe I ever used that install to connect to another pc... Well, then, which would be easier/better to set up between WINS and DNS? :) |
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| 17:18.52 | FieldySnuts | none of it is really easy to set up, i don't really remember the details |
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| 17:19.28 | Bachus9000 | Although I am running Samba anyway, so I suppose I'll use WINS.. |
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| 17:19.51 | Bachus9000 | Thanks, guys. :) |
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| 17:20.00 | powerson_ | FieldySnuts// Do you know http://rufus.hackish.org/~rufus/files/fglrx/? |
| 17:20.14 | paulswm | !be unix barbie |
| 17:20.15 | dpkg | Vwls r HRD! |
| 17:20.20 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 17:20.24 | paulswm | :D |
| 17:20.31 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: aussiesmite dpkg |
| 17:20.32 | ravenbird | dpkg: i wouldnt take a back hander for that bush pig bloody mate |
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| 17:20.39 | paulswm | HAHA |
| 17:20.54 | powerson_ | FieldySnuts// i installed there. |
| 17:20.56 | FieldySnuts | that could almost fit in the confuse factoid |
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| 17:21.02 | Phated | Heh. |
| 17:21.10 | alekibango | what do you have against bush, lol |
| 17:21.17 | FieldySnuts | bush pig is an animal |
| 17:21.26 | powerson_ | FieldySnuts// but my machine isn't work direct rendering. |
| 17:21.26 | tarzeau | FieldySnuts: no, lower than an animal |
| 17:21.37 | alekibango | he is just son of a bush... |
| 17:21.38 | tarzeau | FieldySnuts: bushes are plants |
| 17:22.02 | FieldySnuts | i didn't write the slang, don't blame me. "bush pig" is supposed to be a type of wild, introduced boar or pig in .au |
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| 17:22.20 | paulswm | 'bloody mate' is clumsy |
| 17:22.29 | FieldySnuts | result of my sloppy factoiding |
| 17:22.30 | elirips | hello. i would like to install mplayer from an unofficialy repository on a machine without internet connection. can i somehow tell apt to download all the necessary packages (and dependencies) to a directory, so i can burn them to a cd and install them on the other computer? |
| 17:22.34 | paulswm | 'bloody bush pig, mate' is less so |
| 17:22.35 | atomi | hi all, i heared from an pure-64 bit debian release. is there a sarge cd-image for em64t out? |
| 17:22.37 | powerson_ | why know you? |
| 17:22.47 | shingouz | elirips: why not |
| 17:23.04 | elirips | shingouz: can you give me a hint how to do that? |
| 17:23.31 | TwistedEmotions | A program is asking.... What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] and I just used apt-get install kernel-image to install the kernel... do I need to apt-get install kernel headers? or apt-get install kernel-source? |
| 17:23.42 | shingouz | elirips: wget, ftp, apt-get... take your pick, you just need to know what you have to get and then grab it |
| 17:24.09 | robin_sz | TwistedEmotions: which package is asking that? |
| 17:24.20 | TwistedEmotions | robin_sz: VM Ware.. |
| 17:24.25 | nse | hmm, I want to do something, I want to remove all the packages that do not come from an official debian source, I had recently added a marillat's url to my soruces.list and had installed some .debs from. Is there any pragmatic way to do this? |
| 17:24.46 | shingouz | TwistedEmotions: headers i think |
| 17:24.49 | raboof | TwistedEmotions: not 100% sure, but i'd guess kernel-headers is what you want |
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| 17:25.03 | robin_sz | TwistedEmotions: ahh, OK, not a debian package then .. thats OK |
| 17:25.36 | powerson_ | i am going to sleeping. everyone good day.~ |
| 17:25.43 | codester | can i use update-alternatives --set x-cursor-theme to add new cursor theme path? |
| 17:25.43 | TwistedEmotions | powerson: gnite |
| 17:26.15 | elirips | shingouz: but then i still have to follow the dependencies on my own (?) |
| 17:26.38 | tarzeau | nse: hmmm not really |
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| 17:26.46 | tarzeau | nse: vrms is a good one step, and deborphan |
| 17:26.47 | shingouz | elirips: i havent done such a thing but i think dpkg would prompt you |
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| 17:26.52 | tarzeau | nse: and then manually check the packages |
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| 17:27.46 | TwistedEmotions | I did apt-get install kernel-header and kernel-source... but it's still asking me the location of the directory of C header files... Anyone know where that installs to by default? |
| 17:27.58 | thomas_adam | TwistedEmotions: What's asking you? |
| 17:28.01 | elirips | shingouz: okay, thanks, i'll try |
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| 17:28.15 | TwistedEmotions | thomas_adam: hahah... VMWare |
| 17:28.15 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: usually to /usr/include |
| 17:28.21 | shingouz | TwistedEmotions: /usr/src but i think you have to untar them manually |
| 17:28.22 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: that's non-free |
| 17:28.33 | tarzeau | shingouz: c header files don't go into /usr/src |
| 17:28.39 | shingouz | k |
| 17:28.45 | tarzeau | and tehy don't ever go to /opt |
| 17:28.49 | takatumi | and just untarring it won't do either. |
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| 17:28.55 | TwistedEmotions | /usr/src/linux/include <<--- program defaults to there |
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| 17:29.01 | shingouz | havent used the headers, i just roll my own kernels |
| 17:29.03 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: that's not c header files |
| 17:29.08 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: that's linux kernel c header files |
| 17:29.09 | TwistedEmotions | I guess I need to untar first.. |
| 17:29.14 | TwistedEmotions | yeah |
| 17:29.17 | TwistedEmotions | sorry |
| 17:29.26 | TwistedEmotions | whoops... kernel c header files |
| 17:29.27 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
| 17:29.28 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: linux is usually a symlink to linux-2.0.23 |
| 17:29.32 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: or whatever version of linux you run |
| 17:29.34 | nse | tarzeau: I'll try those, thanks. |
| 17:29.35 | paulswm | TwistedEmotions: If you did apt-get install kernel-source... yes, you have to cd to /usr/src and untar |
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| 17:29.45 | tarzeau | nse: good luck |
| 17:29.57 | pavlix | Hi people, can I make midnight commander to work with utf8??? |
| 17:30.08 | tarzeau | pavlix: hmmm let me check |
| 17:30.17 | EfaistOs | hi |
| 17:30.19 | pavlix | tarzeau: thanks |
| 17:30.30 | EfaistOs | does someone have a nokia 6330 ? |
| 17:30.32 | tarzeau | pavlix: utf8 what? textfiles? filenames? |
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| 17:30.44 | tarzeau | EfaistOs: can you post a picture of it? i never know which are which |
| 17:30.55 | pavlix | tarzeau: utf8 textfiles |
| 17:31.04 | tarzeau | pavlix: so you mean mcedit |
| 17:31.11 | pavlix | and hopefully also use utf8 locale |
| 17:31.35 | pavlix | tarzeau: filenames would be nice but I don't need it |
| 17:31.43 | pavlix | yes mcedit |
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| 17:32.13 | shingouz | EfaistOs: is that a poll or do you have a question about the phone? |
| 17:32.13 | tarzeau | pavlix: i don't have utf8 locale, so mcedit shows me a text like gürkan sengün like Gürkan Sengün |
| 17:32.18 | tarzeau | pavlix: just like the shell |
| 17:32.30 | tarzeau | pavlix: filenames with non-ascii are teh sukc |
| 17:32.35 | js | which one of loop-aes and dm-crypt gives the strongest encryption? |
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| 17:32.37 | EfaistOs | shingouz, don't know if it works under linux ... |
| 17:32.40 | EfaistOs | tarzeau, http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,58708,00.html |
| 17:32.50 | shingouz | EfaistOs: what do you want it to do? |
| 17:33.04 | FieldySnuts | that's a warning i haven't seen before (the pink one) http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/tfx/ |
| 17:33.05 | tarzeau | pavlix: textedit.app can handle utf8 files perfectly |
| 17:33.09 | EfaistOs | shingouz, to update some stuffs like softwares, themes, put mp3 on it ... |
| 17:33.18 | scud | has anyone messed with Sony Ericsson GC79 GPRS-GSM/WLAN pc card? |
| 17:33.32 | pavlix | tarzeau: sorry? |
| 17:33.33 | shingouz | EfaistOs: that is something i am not too sure about |
| 17:33.35 | abrotman | kawfee: you realize i'm not an op .. and i have no idea why you target me |
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| 17:33.40 | tarzeau | EfaistOs: is that java or flash? don't have it, according the small pictures below, no mine is older |
| 17:33.41 | shingouz | scud: no polls please |
| 17:33.48 | tarzeau | pavlix: i don't know, i don't have utf8 locale |
| 17:33.53 | FieldySnuts | kawfee is here? |
| 17:33.57 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: he was /msg'ing me |
| 17:34.08 | FieldySnuts | oh |
| 17:34.11 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: he's always here . .watching etc .. creepy eh ? :) |
| 17:34.12 | tarzeau | !seen kawfee |
| 17:34.13 | dpkg | kawfee <~kawfee@CPE-24-166-190-59.kc.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 224d 1h 21m 27s ago, saying: 'helix: silence'. |
| 17:34.17 | scud | shingouz: its a question, like have they got it working in debian |
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| 17:34.20 | tarzeau | FieldySnuts: wow, that's some time ago |
| 17:34.20 | FieldySnuts | he's a weirdo |
| 17:34.23 | EfaistOs | shingouz, since i saw that these days nokia is coming close to linux and particularly GNOME i thought maybe they done something for linux .... |
| 17:34.27 | tarzeau | FieldySnuts: why? |
| 17:34.29 | FieldySnuts | oh no he hangs around as other nicks |
| 17:34.30 | abrotman | tarzeau: less than g4lt |
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| 17:34.53 | abrotman | tarzeau: he's always here .. he has some grievance with the channel .. and for some reason .. he thinks i'm part of it |
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| 17:35.06 | abrotman | someday i'll figure it out |
| 17:35.13 | k0r3 | !seen k0r3 |
| 17:35.14 | dpkg | k0r3 is currently on #debian (3h 57m 48s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 1s |
| 17:35.24 | abrotman | or i wn't .. cause i don't care :) |
| 17:35.27 | ralf | what a DEBIAN/shlibs file does? |
| 17:35.31 | shingouz | scud: that is a poll. does the card look like a serial port to the system? if it does it should work |
| 17:35.45 | tarzeau | ralf: www.debian.org/devel read |
| 17:35.52 | ralf | thanks |
| 17:35.54 | pavlix | can any other help with the utf8 locale in mc? |
| 17:36.07 | shingouz | EfaistOs: nokia doing something for linux? dream on pal, that is a finnish company |
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| 17:36.28 | tarzeau | shingouz: they have some small device with debian software... |
| 17:36.43 | shingouz | still a *.fi company |
| 17:36.47 | tarzeau | shingouz: and they seem to run netbsd/gnu software on some other firewall hardware of theirs |
| 17:36.54 | tarzeau | shingouz: and yes, they don't do anything |
| 17:37.01 | tarzeau | for it, just use it |
| 17:37.02 | FieldySnuts | doesn't mean they'll give anything back |
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| 17:38.03 | shingouz | tarzeau: i do not use anything nokia anymore, not even their tires |
| 17:38.47 | raboof | nokia did make a contribution to GNOME at some point |
| 17:38.51 | raboof | http://lwn.net/Articles/138043/ |
| 17:38.56 | jamuraa | is it possible to burn CDs in linux without using cdrecord? |
| 17:39.00 | tarzeau | shingouz: we've got a set top tv box and some mobile telephones of them |
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| 17:39.05 | tarzeau | shingouz: not that i like them... |
| 17:39.08 | Supaplex | jamuraa: why no cdrecord? |
| 17:39.17 | tarzeau | jamuraa: but why? |
| 17:39.20 | Supaplex | jamuraa: that's like asking how to make .gz files w/o using gzip |
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| 17:39.48 | openfly | hrmmm |
| 17:39.54 | openfly | out yet? |
| 17:39.58 | shingouz | i could turn you prematurely bald if i told what nokia does in real life /me lets the dead dogs lie |
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| 17:40.33 | jamuraa | tarzeau, Supaplex: I'm just curious, you know |
| 17:40.45 | tarzeau | jamuraa: there's cdrdao |
| 17:40.54 | tarzeau | jamuraa: so yes, there is another way |
| 17:40.54 | TwistedEmotions | I am getting the error "The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.11.10+splash) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.8-2-686-smp)." How do I expand or untar or do whatever to get it to replace the 2.6.11.10+splash header files in /usr/src/linux/include? |
| 17:41.18 | openfly | dpkg vancouver |
| 17:41.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, vancouver is the city with the highest standard of living on earth. the vancouver prospectus proposes criteria for architectures support aiming to reduce release times : http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/03/msg00012.html |
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| 17:42.03 | openfly | oh and openafs works in sarge |
| 17:42.06 | openfly | but not stable |
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| 17:42.08 | openfly | go figure |
| 17:42.09 | shingouz | TwistedEmotions: you grabbed the wrong headers, man |
| 17:42.20 | TwistedEmotions | I have both the kernel image and kernel-source located in the /usr/src folder I just dont know what to do to replace the existing /use/src/linux/include files... |
| 17:42.30 | TwistedEmotions | shingouz: no those files were alreayd there |
| 17:42.36 | openfly | make clean? |
| 17:42.38 | TwistedEmotions | shingouz: I'm trying to replace them |
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| 17:42.52 | LordMicr0n | hi |
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| 17:43.11 | TwistedEmotions | linux@Twisted:/usr/src$ sudo make clean |
| 17:43.12 | TwistedEmotions | make: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. |
| 17:43.38 | Supaplex | TwistedEmotions: do you have a Makefile in that directory? |
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| 17:43.55 | LordMicr0n | how can i add a user to the sudoers |
| 17:43.57 | LordMicr0n | ? |
| 17:44.05 | js | LordMicr0n: visudo |
| 17:44.09 | TwistedEmotions | Supaplex: no.. sorry man i dont know anythink about kernel files |
| 17:44.12 | shingouz | man sudoers, visudo, LordMicr0n |
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| 17:44.27 | TwistedEmotions | LordMicr0n: nano or vi /etc/sudoers |
| 17:44.34 | TwistedEmotions | vi is perfered I think.. |
| 17:44.44 | LordMicr0n | ohh i got the list now thx ;) |
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| 17:44.49 | TwistedEmotions | or what js said 30 minutes ago ;) |
| 17:45.24 | Supaplex | TwistedEmotions: make can't do any of that w/o the Makefile present in that directory. It appears you need to cd into the source directory of your kernel tree first. |
| 17:45.45 | tarzeau | LordMicr0n: check www.linuks.mine.nu/conf/ the sudoers file |
| 17:45.56 | tarzeau | LordMicr0n: EDITOR=whatever visudo |
| 17:46.11 | Supaplex | TwistedEmotions: well, the man page on visudo has a clear advisement against edit the file directly. (visudo) |
| 17:46.14 | LordMicr0n | i got it already thx :) the rest is a walk in a park |
| 17:46.31 | TwistedEmotions | Supaplex: oh. ;) |
| 17:46.55 | shingouz | LordMicr0n: pay attention to the trucks so you do not get run over |
| 17:47.05 | TwistedEmotions | Supaplex: Weee... ;) Thanks... make clean worked... |
| 17:47.23 | LordMicr0n | ... |
| 17:47.25 | TwistedEmotions | Supaplex: so now go to the kernel-souce folder I want and make? |
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| 17:48.03 | Supaplex | TwistedEmotions: I perfer to use kernel-package to build them the debian way. try /msg dpkg kp |
| 17:48.40 | k4dgw | i have a question about the net install |
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| 17:48.53 | shingouz | !tell k4dgw about ask |
| 17:48.57 | Supaplex | k4dgw: that's nice. |
| 17:49.05 | k4dgw | k |
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| 17:49.09 | TwistedEmotions | k4dgw: just ask... |
| 17:49.16 | k4dgw | tnx |
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| 17:49.39 | abrotman | nvz: you make it to canada yet ? |
| 17:49.51 | k4dgw | net install goes through initial setup and detects eth0 and sets up dhcp |
| 17:50.11 | k4dgw | after reboot, can't get dhcp to connect to setup ip address |
| 17:50.13 | shingouz | why is it |
| 17:50.14 | shingouz | so |
| 17:50.22 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.24 | shingouz | hard not to use enter as a punctuation |
| 17:50.28 | shingouz | ;) |
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| 17:50.39 | LordMicr0n | can u tell me why gtk apps are running so slow, the Qt are kinda faster... |
| 17:50.41 | nvz | abrotman: I am not going to canada anytime soon... though the thought has crossed my mind |
| 17:50.45 | TwistedEmotions | k4dgw: dhclient eth0? |
| 17:50.51 | k4dgw | yes |
| 17:50.57 | TwistedEmotions | k4dgw: you sure it's eth0? |
| 17:50.57 | nvz | abrotman: I am heading back to Da Burg asap |
| 17:50.58 | abrotman | nvz: heh |
| 17:50.59 | k4dgw | does not detect |
| 17:51.02 | k4dgw | yes |
| 17:51.05 | abrotman | !u |
| 17:51.05 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 17:51.06 | shingouz | dammit, unless i get a smoke and a lot of caffeine i will lart people left and right. and it is not even sunday yet |
| 17:51.20 | k4dgw | there is an eth0 and eth1, only eth0 is connected |
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| 17:51.36 | LordMicr0n | u2 |
| 17:51.37 | abrotman | k4dgw: laptop/pcmcia ? |
| 17:51.43 | k4dgw | desktop |
| 17:51.45 | LordMicr0n | :) |
| 17:51.50 | nvz | abrotman: my cousing I was working for got me standing around with a nickel holding a dollar up, and is talking shit behind my back.. and I already got my own asshole to do that. |
| 17:52.06 | abrotman | nvz: you have weird family :) |
| 17:52.15 | nvz | so its back home to PA for me.. he can sit here and work himself to death |
| 17:52.32 | k4dgw | detects fine in knoppix and unbuntu, even updates, trying debian for first time, experienced fedora user |
| 17:52.49 | abrotman | k4dgw: dmesg | grep eth ... it's there right ? |
| 17:52.58 | abrotman | both of them ? |
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| 17:53.25 | LordMicr0n | can YOU tell me why are the gtk apps running so slow ?, the Qt are kinda faster... |
| 17:53.46 | abrotman | LordMicr0n: depends on the app |
| 17:53.47 | vh13 | how can i set a package on hold so its not upgraded? |
| 17:53.48 | k4dgw | just tried another re-install, but was able to do an ifconfig eth0 and see it. didn't do a dmesg |
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| 17:53.55 | tarzeau | LordMicr0n: gtk1 or gtk2? |
| 17:53.55 | abrotman | !tell vh13 about hold |
| 17:54.01 | vh13 | thanks |
| 17:54.10 | LordMicr0n | erm... i think it's gtk2 |
| 17:54.14 | tarzeau | LordMicr0n: which app? |
| 17:54.14 | abrotman | whihc app |
| 17:54.23 | k4dgw | dhcp said it was searching with a netmask of 255.255.255.255 whcih seemed to me like it would NEVER find anything with that tight a mask |
| 17:54.24 | LordMicr0n | nautilus |
| 17:54.27 | abrotman | uhm |
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| 17:54.32 | tarzeau | haha |
| 17:54.33 | abrotman | nautilus isn't just a GTK app |
| 17:54.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: but it's sure as hell slow ;) |
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| 17:54.46 | abrotman | tarzeau: heh |
| 17:54.48 | nvz | abrotman: he's in no position to be talking shit to me I am 21 and in good shape, he's 40 and has back problems, and the whore he lives with has all his houses and work vehicles in her name, soon as he's unable to rake in the cash she spends, she's taking all his shit and all the cash she's banked from her job at the hospital and leaving... I tried to offer him reorganization and expansion of his business, so he can secure his future and I could |
| 17:54.53 | abrotman | tarzeau: it's not bad when you use all of gnome |
| 17:55.06 | eugenesan | hi all, how can i pass parameters to compiled in module? |
| 17:55.31 | tarzeau | eugenesan: just add it on the right side in /etc/modules |
| 17:55.31 | abrotman | nvz: why don't you get a geek job ? |
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| 17:55.45 | tarzeau | eugenesan: i've got this for example: bttv tuner=1 |
| 17:55.58 | tarzeau | abrotman: i tried. and i was disappointed badly |
| 17:56.10 | nvz | abrotman: I honestly dont know how to get paid doing this stuff anymore. I cannot stand dealing with M$ shit.. and its everywhere |
| 17:56.17 | eugenesan | tarzeau: is it right for compiled in modules? are you sure? |
| 17:56.28 | tarzeau | eugenesan: yes. yes. |
| 17:56.34 | tarzeau | eugenesan: parameters are not left, they are right |
| 17:56.37 | abrotman | nvz: it's not bad when it's just desktop |
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| 17:56.44 | tarzeau | eugenesan: unless you turn the monitor on its head |
| 17:56.50 | tarzeau | eugenesan: then the parameters are left |
| 17:57.04 | LordMicr0n | well i like the gnome desktop, but, the GUI is slower than the QT gui (like KDE) |
| 17:57.06 | k4dgw | is there anything special you have to do to get dhcp to work on the net installs for ia64 |
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| 17:57.25 | eugenesan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.35 | tarzeau | eugenesan: i don't understand your question |
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| 17:57.48 | tarzeau | eugenesan: modules as in kernel drivers? they are compiled usually *.o and *.ko |
| 17:57.50 | abrotman | k4dgw: for itanium ? |
| 17:57.54 | nvz | abrotman: bullshit :P I cant even hear people say they've got viruses, and spyware and shit... it just doesnt make sense to me.. I've ran debian for 5 years, and never had so much as a "popup", "spyware", or a "virus" ever |
| 17:57.55 | tarzeau | eugenesan: which module are we talking about? |
| 17:58.03 | k4dgw | amd64 |
| 17:58.11 | eugenesan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.11 | abrotman | k4dgw: that's not ia64 |
| 17:58.19 | abrotman | k4dgw: did you install 64bit or 32bit |
| 17:58.22 | k4dgw | k, that may be part of the problem |
| 17:58.31 | tarzeau | nvz: true. but then if only apple mac os x had a decent office suite, and not this crap microsoft office shit |
| 17:58.34 | k4dgw | was trying to grab 64bit |
| 17:58.35 | abrotman | nvz: but you're also not working in business |
| 17:58.40 | tarzeau | eugenesan: debian will do it for you |
| 17:58.44 | abrotman | k4dgw: you can ask #debian-amd64 also |
| 17:58.52 | tarzeau | eugenesan: there's some startup script somewhere in /etc/init.d/ |
| 17:59.02 | abrotman | !tell keikoz about away |
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| 17:59.19 | keikoz | hu ? |
| 17:59.32 | tarzeau | !hu |
| 17:59.32 | dpkg | rumour has it, hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t. |
| 17:59.34 | abrotman | as in .. don't use it in this channel |
| 17:59.54 | nvz | abrotman: M$ has lead people to believe than can do things with a pc that they are either not smart enough to do, or the machine wasnt meant to do in the first place. once you put enough gaming hardware into a system, its become a wintendo, and can no longer be used for _any_ serious application.. and so on.. machines are to be used for one specific purpose IMHO.. and thats where I intend to reenter the field.. as an embedded systems specialist |
| 18:00.01 | onoon | do you have to use gnome to be able to program with gtk+? |
| 18:00.08 | k4dgw | ok, is there a different iso for 64? |
| 18:00.12 | abrotman | onoon: no |
| 18:00.13 | eugenesan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.19 | onoon | abrotman: thanks |
| 18:00.22 | abrotman | k4dgw: there can be .. amd64 can run either 32bit or 64bit |
| 18:00.33 | tarzeau | eugenesan: that's a kernel parameter then, not one for a module |
| 18:00.33 | abrotman | nvz: office lock-in sucks :) |
| 18:00.35 | keikoz | away messages disturbs here ? |
| 18:00.36 | tarzeau | eugenesan: check your boot loader |
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| 18:01.04 | k4dgw | understand, do i pull down a different iso for 64 bit, or is it just a different istallation process? |
| 18:01.07 | tarzeau | k4dgw: 64 what? alpha? sparc? |
| 18:01.11 | k4dgw | amd |
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| 18:01.25 | LordMicr0n | <- 1 more question here, is there any driver for Linux that makes it possible to write to the NTFS ? |
| 18:01.32 | nvz | people are so brainwashed by microsoft and other big companies, that they wouldnt want to know the truth. I cant be bothered with people who want to do something and insist on using the wrong tools to do it |
| 18:01.35 | tarzeau | LordMicr0n: yes |
| 18:01.36 | schleyfox | Hello, would it be innapropriate to ask for reccomendations of a debian based, rather than a debian distro here? |
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| 18:01.49 | abrotman | schleyfox: which distro ? .. most have thier own channel |
| 18:01.51 | tarzeau | schleyfox: yes. try http://livecd.gnustep.org |
| 18:01.58 | abrotman | LordMicr0n: it's not recommended |
| 18:02.01 | tarzeau | abrotman: no, don't say it |
| 18:02.03 | schleyfox | no, I just need a general reccomendation |
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| 18:02.14 | abrotman | nvz: i know .. sucks bad |
| 18:02.20 | schleyfox | the latest ubyuntu failed on me |
| 18:02.22 | abrotman | schleyfox: use debian .. no need to go elsewhere |
| 18:02.33 | LordMicr0n | @abrotman : why not |
| 18:02.37 | tarzeau | schleyfox: nobody cares! |
| 18:02.39 | abrotman | !ntfs write |
| 18:02.40 | tarzeau | !debian based |
| 18:02.40 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Xebian, Ubuntu, Mepis, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. We're supporting Debian, let your distro's support network support it. Ask me about "d-i". |
| 18:02.40 | Supaplex | schleyfox: keep the cdrw handy. be prepared to rewrite it a few times. :) try them all. heh |
| 18:02.42 | schleyfox | I know, the thing is I needed this installed like yesterday |
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| 18:02.45 | abrotman | !ntfswrite |
| 18:02.48 | alekibango | schleyfox: debian is best |
| 18:02.49 | keikoz | ok abrotman no pbl, i'm sorry (just read the message ^) |
| 18:02.55 | abrotman | LordMicr0n: basically .. it can eat your ntfs |
| 18:03.01 | nvz | abrotman: thats what branding does.. people want to type a document, they want MS Word, they dont care that OpenOffice.Org costs $119 less and works exactly the same, and saves the same format. |
| 18:03.04 | zinx | nsfw > ntfs |
| 18:03.07 | tarzeau | abrotman: he didn't ask if it's safe or not ;) |
| 18:03.14 | abrotman | nvz: not really the same format |
| 18:03.14 | tarzeau | abrotman: i would have run him into the wall. BONG |
| 18:03.19 | abrotman | tarzeau: heh |
| 18:03.21 | nvz | ..and has a public bug tracking system.. etc..etc |
| 18:03.25 | LordMicr0n | abrotman : gush |
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| 18:03.42 | abrotman | schleyfox: try the debian sarge installer |
| 18:03.45 | abrotman | !d-i schleyfox |
| 18:03.46 | dpkg | schleyfox, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 18:03.46 | schleyfox | ok |
| 18:03.50 | abrotman | schleyfox: get the 105MB image |
| 18:03.51 | nvz | abrotman: well it saves files that are compatible with MS Office.. or it can.. it by default selects its own format |
| 18:03.55 | eugenesan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.55 | schleyfox | nice |
| 18:03.59 | schleyfox | thank you |
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| 18:04.02 | Supaplex | if someone really wants to try a #debian-like channel, I'm all for loosing that noise here. *gah* |
| 18:04.08 | tarzeau | eugenesan: what do you want? |
| 18:04.09 | abrotman | nvz: yeah .. i've tried .. it's not as good as they say |
| 18:04.17 | Supaplex | just put all the wannabe debian distros there. :p |
| 18:04.24 | tarzeau | 20:04 [gnu] CTCP VERSION reply from eugenesan: Trillian |
| 18:04.24 | LordMicr0n | abrotman : can i sort off emulate the windows drivers ? |
| 18:04.30 | tarzeau | you want a real irc client |
| 18:04.33 | abrotman | LordMicr0n: drivers for what ? |
| 18:04.33 | intero | i am experiencing firefox probelms on startup: it quits with The error was 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)'. |
| 18:04.42 | tarzeau | intero: on i386? |
| 18:04.46 | LordMicr0n | abrotman : windows NTFS drivers |
| 18:04.46 | tarzeau | intero: HEY ;) |
| 18:04.50 | intero | hi tarzeau :D |
| 18:04.52 | intero | tarzeau: yes |
| 18:04.55 | abrotman | LordMicr0n: not that i'm aware |
| 18:04.57 | tarzeau | intero: where the fuck have you been? |
| 18:05.05 | tarzeau | intero: is that TEH .it gnustep fan intero ? |
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| 18:05.06 | abrotman | tarzeau: that's a win32 client afaik |
| 18:05.18 | intero | tarzeau: busy with uni :) yes it's me :) |
| 18:06.11 | tarzeau | intero: /win 14 |
| 18:06.30 | nvz | I just keep quiet, happily run my Debian.. and one day I may learn enough about the kernel to make interesting changes, and build some cool embedded gadgets and be able to brand my own products in a new market.. but I am long away from that.. need to start attending conferences, and trade shows, expos..etc |
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| 18:07.00 | nvz | I prefer right now to work like a slave, than to be annoyed in the computer business. |
| 18:07.06 | abrotman | nvz: OLS!!! |
| 18:07.31 | eugenesan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.34 | nvz | OLS??? |
| 18:07.37 | abrotman | !ols |
| 18:07.38 | dpkg | methinks ols is Ottawa Linux Symposium |
| 18:07.41 | intero | tarzeau: /win 14 ?? |
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| 18:07.56 | nvz | heh.. you really want me to go to canada or something |
| 18:07.57 | myren | intero: mistake? |
| 18:08.12 | myren | they have decent weed in ottawa? |
| 18:08.14 | danini | hy everybody |
| 18:08.23 | abrotman | nvz: no .. just i know some people going/presenting |
| 18:08.40 | intero | tarzeau: i gtg, later |
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| 18:09.25 | nvz | yeah well I will be spending more time here anyhow.. since I am going back home. I will try make the time to get online more, and actually do some of my school work as well. |
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| 18:10.03 | tarzeau | eugenesan: YOU DON?T |
| 18:10.09 | tarzeau | eugenesan: YOU PUT IT IN /ETC/MODULES |
| 18:10.27 | tarzeau | intero: sorry wasn't for you |
| 18:10.51 | myren | nvz: being online or in irssi AND productive? i'm not sure how you figure that |
| 18:11.00 | myren | the only way i can be productive is to axe my net connection |
| 18:11.08 | nvz | heh |
| 18:11.12 | Supaplex | ditto |
| 18:11.14 | shingouz | myren: want an axe? :) |
| 18:11.22 | Supaplex | speaking of which I'll /detach now. |
| 18:11.37 | myren | heh, good luck with that productive thing Supaplex |
| 18:11.41 | nvz | I am very comfortable on freenode, it doesnt take away from what I am doing |
| 18:11.48 | myren | yeah, my axe supply is running low |
| 18:12.02 | nvz | people know how to communicate here, and for the most part don't become a distraction |
| 18:12.25 | eugenesan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.31 | nvz | dcc'ing an axe is likely to cause netsplits |
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| 18:12.38 | shingouz | heh |
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| 18:13.01 | tarzeau | eugenesan: you have compiled the driver into the kernel, not as module? |
| 18:13.11 | shingouz | nvz: you actually think i would send him a sharp axe? he is liable to hurt himself with it |
| 18:13.20 | eugenesan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.32 | myren | damnit, i need to rewrite screen. |
| 18:13.36 | tarzeau | eugenesan: i don't know. read the Documentation of your kernel then |
| 18:13.42 | tarzeau | myren: why? |
| 18:13.53 | myren | so support inter-system screening |
| 18:14.10 | nvz | anyone who could get hurt with a sharp axe, could probably manage to get hurt with a dull one as well |
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| 18:14.13 | myren | this nested screen in screen in screen stuff just doesnt cut it |
| 18:14.28 | eugenesan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.40 | shingouz | eugenesan: tulip ethernet in the kernel? try "ether=<irq>,0x<io>,eth0" |
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| 18:14.59 | tarzeau | myren: yeah that's not fun |
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| 18:15.10 | tarzeau | myren: also nethack in screen is not fun |
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| 18:15.19 | myren | really? i wouldnt have figured |
| 18:15.28 | tarzeau | and minicom |
| 18:15.34 | myren | the one thing that does strike me about screen is how rarely it botches anything |
| 18:15.51 | myren | i have nothing but hatred and pestillence for minicom |
| 18:15.54 | myren | we just dont get along |
| 18:15.56 | zinx | The dungeon collapses... You die. |
| 18:16.12 | tarzeau | zinx: hehe, also got www.linuks.mine.nu/conf/dotscreenrc ? |
| 18:16.26 | eugenesan | shingouz: yes, that's close but i need to force trafic modes and not IO/IRQ :-( |
| 18:16.41 | tarzeau | You cannot escape from window 0! |
| 18:16.44 | zinx | tarzeau: i can't help but notice you're missing the extremely important "defc1 off" command |
| 18:16.52 | tarzeau | zinx: what's that for? |
| 18:17.02 | zinx | tarzeau: it turns off c1 processing |
| 18:17.13 | shingouz | eugenesan: in that case i am stumped, been a long time since i did a static network driver |
| 18:17.24 | tarzeau | zinx: can you explain it so even a moron like me understands it? |
| 18:17.38 | zinx | …tarzeau: if your client doesn't filter it, this is going to screw it up. |
| 18:18.24 | idnar | nethack in screen is cool |
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| 18:18.36 | tarzeau | idnar: especially to repeat the last command |
| 18:18.42 | zinx | tarzeau: c1 sequences are one-character replacements for ESC then a character, for certain escapes |
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| 18:19.10 | tarzeau | zinx: how can i check the difference with c1 and without? what it effects |
| 18:19.19 | zinx | tarzeau: may be some differences too, i forget (and to think i wrote my own terminal emulator..) |
| 18:19.24 | tarzeau | idnar: s/in screen// |
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| 18:19.37 | idnar | heh |
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| 18:20.14 | idnar | You escaped the dungeon. |
| 18:21.01 | nvz | oh well, I think I've about exausted my resources for a way back to the burg... might have to hang out here a while |
| 18:21.06 | tarzeau | idnar: telnet linuks.mine.nu 27015 |
| 18:21.24 | newcoast | any updates on the june6 release? |
| 18:21.42 | abrotman | newcoast: /topic #debian-bugs |
| 18:21.56 | abrotman | newcoast: when it hits 0 .. and stays there .. release will happen |
| 18:22.08 | tarzeau | newcoast: they tricked you. it's out already |
| 18:23.17 | D347hD011 | Excuse me, I am going from a Static IP to DHCP, What do I change? |
| 18:23.17 | idnar | tarzeau: nice |
| 18:23.36 | shingouz | D347hD011: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:23.41 | alekibango | man interfaces |
| 18:23.43 | abrotman | !tell D347hD011 about interfaces |
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| 18:24.36 | WhiteRabbit | !tickles for nobody |
| 18:24.45 | nvz | I wonder what the easiest method would be to recursivly scan a directory tree, and return directories names that do not contain .jpg files.. or furthermore contain files that are not .jpg even if it contains .jpgs I got a tree of photos, and some other things got mixed in.. I am feeling lazy about locating them and fixing it.. want to script it |
| 18:24.47 | holo | is there a command to send an aplication to a X virtual desktop? |
| 18:24.56 | tarzeau | idnar: damn that happens sometimes with zsh, i don't feel like running nethack/recover (since i wasn't far) |
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| 18:24.58 | zinx | tarzeau: with c1 on, characters 128-159 are escape codes |
| 18:25.10 | zinx | tarzeau: with c1 off, they're characters |
| 18:25.13 | shingouz | holo: startx -- :1 |
| 18:25.27 | tarzeau | zinx: ok i'll put it in... |
| 18:25.28 | shingouz | holo: oh, not that one |
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| 18:25.43 | holo | shingouz: :S agree, i already made startx |
| 18:25.52 | schrankwand | Hi, how can i change the owner of a file? |
| 18:25.52 | zinx | tarzeau: though with a iso8859-1{,5} font, they are blank characters ;) |
| 18:26.03 | abrotman | schrankwand: chown |
| 18:26.06 | schrankwand | thnaks |
| 18:26.20 | tarzeau | zinx: how can i change to c1 off in runtime? |
| 18:26.24 | shingouz | holo: i think what you want is to click around with the mouse then, try right click on the leftmost thingie in the titlebar |
| 18:26.29 | zinx | tarzeau: :c1 off |
| 18:26.31 | tarzeau | zinx: don't feel like killing this screen session: [20:26][tarzeau(+ei)][49:#debian[Act: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,29,31,32,33,35,36,37,42,44,45,46,47,50,51,52,53,54] |
| 18:26.41 | tarzeau | zinx: thanks |
| 18:27.10 | holo | shingouz: no i don't want to use the mouse, its too far away, i wanted a command like `command:X application' |
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| 18:27.45 | shingouz | holo: no idea, sorry. i go either full CLI or use a rodent if in X :) |
| 18:28.01 | holo | rodent heh |
| 18:28.13 | zinx | abrotman: oh, please, he doesn't do crack |
| 18:28.17 | shingouz | holo: yea, i cannot really call a trackball a mouse |
| 18:28.19 | zinx | abrotman: it's meth |
| 18:28.23 | abrotman | ok |
| 18:28.30 | tarzeau | abrotman: why's that? |
| 18:28.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: only 54 ? |
| 18:29.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: 54 what? |
| 18:29.13 | abrotman | windows in irssi |
| 18:29.22 | zinx | abrotman: nah, there just isn't any action in the last 46 windows. |
| 18:29.25 | shingouz | abrotman: think that is enough? |
| 18:29.27 | abrotman | heh |
| 18:29.37 | abrotman | shingouz: i'm trying to imagine that with xchat |
| 18:29.41 | tarzeau | abrotman: haha, i usually have 200 or so (after 3-6 months ;) |
| 18:29.48 | shingouz | abrotman: i try not to :) |
| 18:29.53 | zinx | tarzeau: new windows on query? |
| 18:29.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: that all huh? |
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| 18:30.04 | tarzeau | zinx: more like channels ;) |
| 18:30.13 | shingouz | don't you guys know how to close them when you are done? |
| 18:30.29 | abrotman | shingouz: /wc i think |
| 18:30.30 | zinx | tarzeau: how many networks? |
| 18:30.31 | tarzeau | abrotman: TA being? |
| 18:30.33 | abrotman | !ta |
| 18:30.34 | dpkg | ta is probably an abbreviation for thomas_adam, or antipodean slang for "thank you". Total Annihilation(Best RTS *evar*). Teaching Assistant |
| 18:30.36 | tarzeau | zinx: 3 - 8 |
| 18:30.49 | aldug | what is the find command to find all files that are *.c *.h or *.cc? |
| 18:30.53 | zinx | tarzeau: i'm surprised you managed to get that many channels with that few networks :) |
| 18:30.54 | abrotman | man find |
| 18:31.01 | tarzeau | zinx: half of it are queries, that' i'm lazy to close (and the other with important info in it) |
| 18:31.03 | nvz | this seems like a job just a little too complex for a simple grep -v |
| 18:31.08 | zinx | tarzeau: oh, ah |
| 18:31.11 | tarzeau | zinx: how many networks are you on? |
| 18:31.17 | zinx | tarzeau: only 7 i think |
| 18:31.27 | nvz | though maybe not.. |
| 18:31.29 | tarzeau | zinx: no wonder, when so many irc networks have idiot channel limits |
| 18:31.30 | zinx | no, only 6 at the moment |
| 18:31.34 | tarzeau | zinx: 20 on freenode |
| 18:31.54 | shingouz | now i really feel non-geek. only 2 networks and four channels |
| 18:31.59 | zinx | "29 channels across 6 servers", says my network/channel counter |
| 18:32.20 | aldug | nvz: are you referring to my question? |
| 18:32.22 | nvz | I think I will script something to walk through all dirs, and take anything that doesnt end in .jpg, and add .jpg to the end.. afaik they are all photos, its just some of them somehow didnt get the proper (any) extensions on them |
| 18:32.24 | idnar | I only have about 38 windows |
| 18:32.39 | nvz | aldug: nope.. mumbling about my screwed up photos |
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| 18:34.06 | nvz | I just need to work out a deal with GNU Find I think |
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| 18:34.58 | tarzeau | damn i hate two altars in the same level, and so early |
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| 18:36.12 | pusling | any one got a file: /usr/dict/words (if yes, from which package) |
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| 18:37.09 | tarzeau | pusling: dpkg -S /usr/dict/words |
| 18:37.37 | sparr_x4 | why the hell would someone make the common name on their ssl cert www.SITENAME.COM |
| 18:37.57 | gvandora | I have a question regarding linux_wlan_ng... I'm getting an from /etc/wlan/shared ... it looks for other files named /etc/wlan/shared.* am I right to assume I need to create them with information about my network card? Or do they serve some other function? |
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| 18:38.08 | Wille88_ | apt-get dist-upgrade wants to install whole xfree, but I have xorg installed(under /usr/local/). Will xfree replace my xorg? |
| 18:38.11 | tarzeau | sparr_x4: because they are teh moron? |
| 18:38.35 | gvandora | sparr_x4: yeah I'd have to agree www.SITENAME.com is dumb |
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| 18:38.54 | sparr_x4 | nono |
| 18:38.54 | shingouz | this is not fu, galeon barfs on me |
| 18:38.57 | sparr_x4 | not sitename |
| 18:38.59 | shingouz | s/fu/fun |
| 18:39.00 | sparr_x4 | they got the name right |
| 18:39.04 | sparr_x4 | but the capitalization was funky |
| 18:39.18 | pusling | tarzeau: I have not got the file, but I have a program needing it ;) |
| 18:39.34 | tarzeau | pusling: then check packages.d.o |
| 18:39.37 | gvandora | sounds like they don't know how to work the caps lock key |
| 18:39.42 | BoD_SWAT | how do I change a user's password? (and can it have signs like &@^!%)(? ) |
| 18:39.56 | sparr_x4 | BoD_SWAT: passwd user |
| 18:40.00 | Phated | BoD_SWAT: passwd <user>, and yes. |
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| 18:40.02 | gvandora | as root type passwd user |
| 18:40.10 | BoD_SWAT | thnx :) |
| 18:40.14 | Phated | Ehm, actually, not sure. |
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| 18:40.19 | tarzeau | gvandora: heh |
| 18:40.22 | gvandora | he'll need to escape the funny charactrs? |
| 18:40.29 | sparr_x4 | is there any way to give a user's shell the permissions of another user? |
| 18:40.35 | Phated | Ah-hah, he can! |
| 18:40.43 | Phated | BoD_SWAT: Yes, you can. Go ahead. |
| 18:40.54 | pusling | tarzeau: hmm... packages.debian.org (and apt-file) is not very helpful. It might be a symlink placed by a postinst |
| 18:41.16 | tarzeau | pusling: hmmm wait |
| 18:41.25 | shingouz | BoD_SWAT: remember to make the pw 20 characters minimum, upper and lower case, alphas and numerals, at least one hash and make it rhyme with grep ;) |
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| 18:41.35 | tarzeau | pusling: what software wants it? |
| 18:41.52 | BoD_SWAT | thnx guys... sweet :D, it works. It is said that 'usermod -p <pw> <user>' SHOULD work, but it only screwed up my passwords |
| 18:42.10 | pusling | tarzeau: xscreensaver |
| 18:42.55 | kullanici | hey |
| 18:43.27 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: u there? |
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| 18:44.48 | gvandora | Can anyone help with my linux_wlan question? |
| 18:44.56 | tarzeau | gvandora: we can't read mind |
| 18:45.26 | gvandora | WHY NOT?!? I thought you were linux gods.... I have a question regarding linux_wlan_ng... I'm getting an from /etc/wlan/shared ... it looks for other files named /etc/wlan/shared.* am I right to assume I need to create them with information about my network card? Or do they serve some other function? |
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| 18:46.11 | kullanici | how can i change all Ã^Ç to Ç with vim? |
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| 18:46.44 | pusling | tarzeau: a symlink: sudo ln -s /usr/share/dict/words /usr/dict/words |
| 18:46.49 | pusling | made it work |
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| 18:47.20 | tarzeau | pusling: aha ;) |
| 18:47.34 | Phated | kullanici: I think the Ã^Ç will appear as \u and a bunch of numbers, you can do :%s/<\u bunch of numbers>/Ç/g to change all instances in a file. |
| 18:47.35 | pusling | so I might use reportbug ;) |
| 18:47.36 | hdo781 | How do I add non-free repository to resources.lst? |
| 18:48.20 | Phated | hdo781: Add "non-free" to the end of your source line, and the file is sources.list. |
| 18:48.20 | shingouz | gvandora: did you install the wlan-ng with module-assistant as i told you yesterday? i hope you did.. |
| 18:48.29 | gvandora | yup |
| 18:48.40 | tarzeau | haha mjollnir with T:2199 |
| 18:48.47 | gvandora | the card does work.. but only when I juryrig it |
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| 18:48.58 | shingouz | gvandora: what happens when you plug in the usb thingie? |
| 18:49.44 | gvandora | shingouz: the system recognizes it and loads the prism2_usb module |
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| 18:49.52 | e0n | hello! I'm setting up a bluetooth NAP so I can share my connection with a laptop running winXP, I've managed to access my server from the laptop but I think XP is not getting the IP... how do I set up dhcp on the interface?(bnep0 on /etc/network/interfaces) |
| 18:49.57 | hdo781 | Do you mean like this: deb-src ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ non-free main |
| 18:50.02 | shingouz | gvandora: and that is the correct module, isnt it? |
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| 18:50.09 | gvandora | shingouz: yup |
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| 18:50.25 | Phated | hdo781: Yes. Remember to apt-get update afterwards. |
| 18:50.36 | gvandora | shingouz: I know the module is fine... becuase I'm using it to type these very words... its auto startup scripts they are messed up |
| 18:50.39 | shingouz | gvandora: ok, now you have the card there and the module installed, what does ifconfig -a tell you? does there appear to be a card? |
| 18:50.53 | shingouz | apparently there is... :) |
| 18:50.56 | hdo781 | Is contribued add like "contrib" or "contributed"? |
| 18:51.01 | MasterChief | Hi, I am having a problem. I cant get PHP4 to work. When I pull up a PHP page it just asks me to download it. I am running Apache 1.3 Any ideas? |
| 18:51.03 | Phated | hdo781: contrib. |
| 18:51.08 | hdo781 | Thanks |
| 18:51.18 | shingouz | gvandora: check /etc/network/interfaces to see if you have a proper entry there? |
| 18:51.43 | hdo781 | Can I mix testing, non-free, and contrib repositories? |
| 18:51.57 | Phated | hdo781: If you mean main, non-free, and contrib, yes. |
| 18:52.05 | gvandora | shingsouz: something like: auto wlan ; iface wlan0 inet dhcp; no? |
| 18:52.21 | tarzeau | hdo781: non-free and contrib are not part of debian |
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| 18:52.50 | kullanici | Phated can you explain more please? |
| 18:52.56 | shingouz | gvandora: something like that, yes. (/msg dpkg nicktab) ;) |
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| 18:53.09 | kullanici | with an example :s how will i specify those characters ? |
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| 18:53.31 | Phated | kullanici: ... Explain what? I gave you the command. How does Ã^Ç appear when you open vim? |
| 18:53.35 | shingouz | gvandora: do you have WEP or some other encryption on? it should be in the same file afaik |
| 18:53.57 | gvandora | shingouz: ok... I'm playing with the wlan script... i don't think its being recognized by hotplug |
| 18:53.58 | MasterChief | Can anyone help me? |
| 18:54.05 | gvandora | shinggouz: no WEP |
| 18:54.39 | alekibango | MasterChief: try asking real questions |
| 18:54.41 | m4lu7 | ok. um... uh... how many kilobytes per second should i see transferring over a 100 mbit network? |
| 18:54.47 | shingouz | hotplug... i hate hotplug... usbmgr is something that i can tolerate |
| 18:55.06 | alekibango | aha :) MasterChief :) |
| 18:55.07 | MasterChief | Wow thanks for the help :( |
| 18:55.08 | gvandora | singouz: there's a if statement that checks for hotplug and its saying no... |
| 18:55.25 | gvandora | MasterChief: what's your question |
| 18:55.26 | shingouz | gvandora: did you /msg dpkg nicktab ? |
| 18:55.29 | alekibango | look u need to uncoment something in apache server settings to allow running php |
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| 18:55.41 | schrankwand^ | cu |
| 18:55.43 | MasterChief | Ok, were is it at. |
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| 18:55.48 | kullanici | Phated, i want to change all "Ã~G" characters to "Ç"... Ç is turkish character and "Ã~G" utf8 maybe.. but when i search or try to use sed on "Ã~G" these characters.. vim don't find them |
| 18:55.57 | MasterChief | Or what is it called. |
| 18:55.59 | alekibango | MasterChief: try rgrep php /etc/apache* |
| 18:56.05 | MasterChief | ok |
| 18:56.12 | alekibango | u will find it |
| 18:56.22 | gvandora | shingouz: what does /msg dpkg nicktab mean? |
| 18:56.31 | Phated | kullanici: The characters, as I said, would appear as \usomething. Look in the file for \u and copy it, and the string of four numbers behind it. |
| 18:56.40 | shingouz | gvandora: type /msg dpkg nicktab here on irc |
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| 18:57.09 | Phated | kullanici: Then use the vim command :%s/\\u<numbers>/Ç/ to replace them. |
| 18:57.30 | e0n | hello! I'm setting up a bluetooth NAP so I can share my connection with a laptop running winXP, I've managed to access my server from the laptop but I think XP is not getting the IP... how do I set up dhcp on the interface?(bnep0 on /etc/network/interfaces) |
| 18:57.38 | alekibango | MasterChief: #AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 18:57.58 | MasterChief | Ok thanks I will try that. |
| 18:58.14 | gvandora | shingouz: ok ... like the bash thingy |
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| 18:58.38 | shingouz | gvandora: did the information help a bit? :) |
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| 18:58.55 | gvandora | shingoooooouz: perfectly |
| 18:59.10 | MasterChief | alehibango: Already uncommented |
| 18:59.38 | kullanici | Phated how can i insert key-notation on vim ? |
| 18:59.45 | shingouz | gvandora: excellent. the thing is that i do not have highlighting on if my nick is typoed and it makes the conversation a bit hard to follow |
| 18:59.54 | Phated | kullanici: However you insert them normally, one supposes. |
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| 19:00.23 | simonrvn | yeh, coffee mug in one hand, and cigarette in the other |
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| 19:00.47 | gvandora | shingouz: ok I gotcha. when you have a line in a bash script that starts with . /etc/somescript is that like a #include in C? |
| 19:00.55 | jim | how would I read my lmsensors once I got the module loaded properly? |
| 19:01.02 | simonrvn | shingouz: ^^^^ |
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| 19:01.26 | shingouz | gvandora: not really, irc sees anythign with a leading slash as a command |
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| 19:01.42 | gvandora | shingouz: no no in a shell script.. not here on IRC |
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| 19:01.57 | shingouz | simonrvn: not really, my landlord would kill me if i smoked indoors and i do not drink coffee. basically you do have a point though |
| 19:02.10 | simonrvn | gvandora: . == source, yes |
| 19:02.28 | MasterChief | alekibango: Still cant get it to work, It was already uncommented. |
| 19:02.39 | Phated | shingouz: Multitasking means you're doing both things, not being distracted at one while doing another. |
| 19:02.58 | simonrvn | gvandora: but it's more for stuff like including variables, not actually running the sourced file |
| 19:03.13 | alekibango | MasterChief: restarted apache? |
| 19:03.17 | shingouz | Phated: that is what i usually do, multitask. just taht when trying to do four or five things at the same time a 21-inch screen is a bit small |
| 19:03.20 | simonrvn | @dict multitask |
| 19:03.23 | ravenbird | Dictionary 'multitask' n. Often used of humans in the same meaning it has for computers, to describe a person doing several things at once (but see {thrash}). The term `multiplex', from communications technology (meaning to handle more than one channel at the same time), is used similarly. |
| 19:03.33 | alekibango | hmm is your php page enging .php ? |
| 19:03.37 | Phated | shingouz: You're not doing it well, you're not supposed to be confused at any of them. :) |
| 19:03.46 | jim | gvandora: yes, . <file> is like source <file>, is similar to #include. the main effect, is that if the script affects the environment of the shell process, this effect is passed back when the . is done |
| 19:04.00 | shingouz | Phated: not confused, just that it is hard to see under the other open windows |
| 19:04.04 | alekibango | s/enging/ending/ |
| 19:04.13 | Phated | shingouz: Seeing is one of your tasks, too. |
| 19:04.25 | shingouz | Phated: behind walls too? :o |
| 19:04.34 | shingouz | Phated: you from Krypton? |
| 19:04.36 | jim | you see the walls at least |
| 19:04.44 | shingouz | i bump into them... |
| 19:04.46 | jim | superPhat! |
| 19:04.50 | simonrvn | when i've smoked i'm doing 16 thing at once. "oooh, that's an idea", and i try to do it right away. then i make notes so as to not forget them ;) |
| 19:04.52 | Phated | shingouz: You're supposed to SEE the walls. |
| 19:04.55 | simonrvn | s |
| 19:04.56 | asuffield | who'd want to see through walls? |
| 19:05.01 | zinx | Phated: omg wallhax! |
| 19:05.01 | shingouz | really? :) |
| 19:05.02 | asuffield | now, seeing through skirts, that'd be more useful |
| 19:05.21 | zinx | asuffield: omg skirthax! |
| 19:05.28 | FieldySnuts | sif, n00b |
| 19:05.33 | shingouz | <sigh> |
| 19:05.37 | jim | no, what would be more useful would be to get her to want you to see behind her skirt |
| 19:05.54 | Phated | shingouz: If you got a sense of humour, this wouldn't have gone this far. :| Sorry. |
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| 19:06.09 | gvandora | shingouz: thanks for your help... I'm going to spend some time reading and debugging the scripts... I'll cya |
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| 19:06.25 | MasterChief | alekibango: Ill try that |
| 19:06.26 | shingouz | Phated: ok, i need a smoke, that is for sure but the fact remains that i do smile here :) |
| 19:06.31 | jim | asuffield: that's the difference between a successful normal guy and a creep |
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| 19:07.02 | shingouz | Phated: it is pretty hard to really irritate me and i am not too easily offended either. plus i have a black sense of humor ;) |
| 19:07.12 | FieldySnuts | !irritate shingouz |
| 19:07.13 | dpkg | shingouz: HELP ME!!! who uses gnome kk |
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| 19:07.19 | shingouz | heh |
| 19:07.28 | hyde | anyone knows why rhel vsftpd only supports 2 "quote site" commands? |
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| 19:07.40 | Phated | #rhel? |
| 19:07.42 | FieldySnuts | ask a redhat channel? or better yet since it's enterprise, ask redhat themselves |
| 19:07.45 | simonrvn | no idea. go ask the redhat folks |
| 19:07.48 | FieldySnuts | this isn't the place |
| 19:07.51 | jim | hyde: and the #redhat people said? :) |
| 19:08.10 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: aussiesmite rhel |
| 19:08.10 | ravenbird | rhel: cheerio mate |
| 19:08.24 | jim | that's not a smite :P |
| 19:08.32 | FieldySnuts | have to try again i guess |
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| 19:09.05 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: aussiesmite rhel |
| 19:09.05 | ravenbird | rhel: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
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| 19:09.10 | FieldySnuts | bbl food |
| 19:09.24 | jim | bubble food! |
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| 19:09.32 | FieldySnuts | lick it. |
| 19:09.44 | jim | what do you feed a bubble? |
| 19:09.51 | asuffield | only if it's cute |
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| 19:10.17 | jim | how would I read my lmsensors once I got the module loaded properly? |
| 19:10.21 | shingouz | jim: soap? |
| 19:10.21 | tarzeau | did i hear bubble? |
| 19:10.32 | tarzeau | jim: you playing #bub-n-bros http://bub-n-bros.sf.net ? |
| 19:10.58 | jim | I've been experimenting with it... I joined a netgame once yesterday |
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| 19:11.10 | tarzeau | jim: wanna play again? i'll start a new server |
| 19:11.21 | jim | not just now... |
| 19:11.40 | jim | I want to see if my lmsensors are sensing anything :) |
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| 19:11.55 | tarzeau | jim: i've started it anyways. jethro? |
| 19:12.02 | drmorelove | thanks |
| 19:12.08 | jim | I don't know the name of any app that reads em |
| 19:12.12 | shingouz | jim: i just hope you do not run a thinkpad there..... |
| 19:12.17 | jim | no |
| 19:12.24 | shingouz | good |
| 19:12.40 | jim | thinkpads are overpriced and grossly underpowered for the price |
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| 19:12.54 | zinx | jim: but they have a nipple! |
| 19:12.58 | FieldySnuts | most laptops are |
| 19:13.34 | eflynn | what's new in sarge? |
| 19:13.34 | tarzeau | eflynn: twice as much software |
| 19:13.34 | zinx | eflynn: everything |
| 19:13.34 | shingouz | installer |
| 19:13.34 | jim | eflynn: sarge has frozen |
| 19:13.34 | tarzeau | eflynn: all software updated and newer kernels |
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| 19:13.34 | eflynn | twice... holy crap |
| 19:13.37 | simonrvn | stinkpad with a ppc cpu. that'd be nice |
| 19:13.53 | shingouz | simonrvn: yes it would. they are there biut very hard to find |
| 19:13.56 | zinx | simonrvn: haven't you heard? even apple doesn't use ppc anymore |
| 19:13.57 | jim | I'd still like to see a scsi laptop |
| 19:14.11 | jim | what do they use? |
| 19:14.19 | shingouz | jim: the PPC thinkpads and tadpoles have scsi i think |
| 19:14.33 | JoshH | they still use ppc, but they will switch to intel sometime in 2006 |
| 19:14.33 | simonrvn | and only older models :|. yes i heard. IMO it's stupid of them to do yet another arch shift... |
| 19:14.47 | jim | intel?? |
| 19:14.55 | holo | ??? |
| 19:14.57 | JoshH | i dont know it it will be x86, but they will use intel chips instead of motorola |
| 19:15.01 | jim | well it does sorta make sense |
| 19:15.03 | JoshH | there were articles about it yesterday |
| 19:15.13 | simonrvn | instead of freescale/moto |
| 19:15.14 | jim | simonrvn: and a very rich one. |
| 19:15.22 | tarzeau | eflynn: grub is now default! |
| 19:15.26 | simonrvn | still an idjit |
| 19:15.31 | tarzeau | eflynn: sarge has alot of GNUstep stuff |
| 19:15.32 | eflynn | tarzeau, w00t |
| 19:15.43 | eflynn | I run ubuntu anyway :) |
| 19:15.43 | jim | don't you wish you were as idiotic? |
| 19:15.45 | jim | I do |
| 19:15.50 | JoshH | same here |
| 19:15.53 | simonrvn | i don't care how much money you have, if you're an idjit, you still are one |
| 19:15.56 | tarzeau | !topicbadger eflynn |
| 19:15.57 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that eflynn didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 19:16.11 | holo | if being an idiot would make me that rich, i would gladly be an idiot |
| 19:16.27 | simonrvn | http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede |
| 19:16.38 | eflynn | tarzeau, what, i can't even mention ubuntu? :) |
| 19:16.47 | simonrvn | http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=html.alert even |
| 19:16.48 | JoshH | ugh, i meant ibm not motorola |
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| 19:17.23 | jim | eflynn: well, sure... but asking questions and expecting help here is ineffective (and evidently annoying) |
| 19:17.28 | tarzeau | eflynn: you'll switch to debian when sarge is stable? |
| 19:17.36 | shingouz | eflynn: yes if you wash your mouth with soap afterwards |
| 19:17.46 | eflynn | tarzeau, depends what my mood is |
| 19:17.58 | eflynn | i'll prolly install it on another machine |
| 19:18.16 | simonrvn | ubuntu stayed on this thing for about a week |
| 19:18.25 | simonrvn | only thing i have left is xorg |
| 19:18.27 | eflynn | stayed on mine for three months solid |
| 19:18.33 | jim | eflynn: bottom line, run anything you want. but having said that, understand what your support options are |
| 19:18.50 | simonrvn | you do your own support ;) |
| 19:18.51 | eflynn | jim, yes i know... |
| 19:19.04 | jim | also see: simonrvn |
| 19:19.10 | tarzeau | simonrvn: i tried the live cd on a very new/fast computer and was badly disappointed |
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| 19:19.15 | simonrvn | DIY support |
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| 19:19.33 | simonrvn | tarzeau: i tried it too, briefly. not super, but it works |
| 19:19.51 | simonrvn | rather pokey on a p2 |
| 19:19.53 | jim | someone should topic that |
| 19:19.57 | eflynn | whatever, support is pretty good on ubuntu. all i need is a fast smooth desktop with apt-get |
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| 19:20.16 | streuner | eflynn: your are pretty wrong |
| 19:20.19 | simonrvn | streuner: sure we are =;) |
| 19:20.40 | jim | streuner: but whether wrong or not, he has to make up his own mind |
| 19:20.42 | tarzeau | streuner: heh :) |
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| 19:20.48 | streuner | eflynn: if you wanna have _ONLY_ a nice desktop system why not just use XP? |
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| 19:21.05 | Phated | Because XP isn't? |
| 19:21.06 | streuner | for that i dont need debian or ubuntu at all |
| 19:21.09 | jim | are you saying XP is -nice-? :P |
| 19:21.19 | eflynn | streuner, linux == less hostile programming environment? |
| 19:21.30 | streuner | as desktop system vs. ubuntu? :-)) |
| 19:21.38 | streuner | better hardware-support |
| 19:21.40 | simonrvn | who wants a pos like xp when you can have a nice desktop *and* a stable os :) |
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| 19:21.56 | jim | eflynn: microsoft considers it hostile :) |
| 19:22.04 | tarzeau | streuner: not on sparc ;) |
| 19:22.11 | streuner | simonrvn: if thats the only reason, XP is pretty stable |
| 19:22.26 | streuner | tarzeau: well, not on sparc :-) |
| 19:22.32 | simonrvn | debain works fine as a desktop. it's not all done for you. which i dislike of ubuntu in my more hackerish moods |
| 19:22.34 | asuffield | Phated: what the heck is a 'plain english speaking competition'? |
| 19:22.44 | JoshH | streuner: it can be stable for someone who isnt an idiot who installs a ton of spyware. ;) |
| 19:22.56 | simonrvn | debian even, sorry |
| 19:23.07 | JoshH | but the typical home xp user completely screws their xp up to the point that its barely useable |
| 19:23.09 | jim | an english speaking competition that takes place on a plain? |
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| 19:23.14 | Phated | asuffield: It's a competition in public speaking. Why in heck would you care? |
| 19:23.16 | streuner | simonrvn: well, sid works here like a charm in years as desktop-systen :-P |
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| 19:23.27 | streuner | system* |
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| 19:23.38 | simonrvn | streuner: exactly |
| 19:23.54 | asuffield | Phated: I don't really, it was just a little 'wtf?' |
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| 19:24.04 | streuner | JoshH: well, there are software to get a spyware-free system |
| 19:24.32 | JoshH | it doesnt always work that well though |
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| 19:24.40 | JoshH | depending on how infested the box is |
| 19:25.49 | jim | XP as infestation is bad enough :P |
| 19:25.50 | streuner | JoshH: point taken, i dont wanna fight against those bs (registry and stuff)... |
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| 19:25.50 | gvandora | I can't figure out why a module alias isn't working... besides being in modules.conf, is there somesort of enable aliases option? |
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| 19:25.56 | simonrvn | gvandora: 2.4.x? |
| 19:26.03 | gvandora | 2.6.8 |
| 19:26.26 | simonrvn | module-init-tools stuff doesn't even read modules.conf anymore |
| 19:26.27 | streuner | JoshH: besides, you can install the OS on a little partition and the rest one the big one and re-install if needed... |
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| 19:26.33 | MasterChief | I need help. I cant get PHP4 to work with Apache 1.3, Can someone help? |
| 19:26.38 | jim | gvandora: what message do you get when you invoke the loading of this module via its alias? |
| 19:26.45 | JoshH | yes, but then the start menu shortcuts are all gone |
| 19:26.50 | simonrvn | MasterChief: try #apache |
| 19:26.52 | FieldySnuts | you've been asking for hours and I know someone gave you the right info... |
| 19:26.56 | FieldySnuts | so anyway |
| 19:26.58 | JoshH | and you have to repatch and everything |
| 19:27.04 | gvandora | jim: FATAL: Module wlan0 not found |
| 19:27.08 | MasterChief | I know but I wont work |
| 19:27.16 | FieldySnuts | wlan0 wouldn't be a module, it would be an interface |
| 19:27.20 | jim | MasterChief: might have to build the module against apache's dev libs |
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| 19:27.30 | PeTiLLoN | re |
| 19:27.32 | PeTiLLoN | coupure de courant :D |
| 19:27.38 | FieldySnuts | english, please |
| 19:27.43 | FieldySnuts | !fr |
| 19:27.43 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 19:27.52 | PeTiLLoN | i know i know ;) |
| 19:27.57 | gvandora | jim: but... damnit, I look in modules.conf and see alias wlan0 prism2_usb |
| 19:28.00 | streuner | JoshH: i guess iam a lazy guy, because debian is so damn easy to use... ;-) |
| 19:28.16 | JoshH | debian is the shit, no doubt about that |
| 19:28.17 | jim | gvandora: you have a prism2 card? |
| 19:28.17 | streuner | JoshH: apt-get install, done. |
| 19:28.22 | eflynn | !eo |
| 19:28.26 | simonrvn | gvandora: he-llo, 2.6 doesn't *use* modules.conf. |
| 19:28.31 | streuner | JoshH: heh? :-) |
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| 19:28.57 | eflynn | JoshH, "Da Shit", get it right ;) |
| 19:28.58 | gvandora | simonrvn: where would I put the alias in 2.6.8 |
| 19:29.00 | jim | streuner: E: Couldn't find package done |
| 19:29.08 | bwlang | i've got a wierd problem... packets for the localnetwork are going to the gateway... is that normal? |
| 19:29.22 | gvandora | bwlang: what is your netmask set to? |
| 19:29.24 | streuner | jim: haha, debian is just genius. |
| 19:29.39 | streuner | JoshH: ^^^ |
| 19:29.46 | streuner | jim: wrong nick, sorry. |
| 19:29.48 | holo | agree, i think windows XP is for expert spyware/virus users only, a less savvy user would be better in linux |
| 19:29.48 | gvandora | bwlang: if its 255.255.255.255 of course they will go there |
| 19:29.56 | jim | np :) |
| 19:30.00 | simonrvn | gvandora: dunno, i don't bother usually |
| 19:30.12 | bwlang | gvandora: it's a 24 bit netmask.. 255.255.255.0 |
| 19:30.45 | gvandora | bwlang: well that should tell the system to keep them local.... |
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| 19:31.06 | bwlang | gvandora: yeah... i thought so too... i can't figure out why this is happening |
| 19:31.14 | jim | bwlang: put this stuff in a text file... (ifconfig ; route -n) > someFile |
| 19:31.36 | jim | then put the content of someFile on rafb.net/paste |
| 19:31.43 | bwlang | jim: okay... |
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| 19:32.05 | jim | that could help whoever to help you |
| 19:32.17 | Petro | i |
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| 19:32.29 | streuner | JoshH: and better hardware-detection, lol, do you think someone get those issues not solved? :-) |
| 19:32.54 | streuner | JoshH: all distros still use _Linux_ ... ;-) |
| 19:33.02 | bwlang | jim: here's the URL http://pastebin.ca/13380 |
| 19:33.29 | streuner | JoshH: and if they doesnt work there they dont work in 99,9 % in another distro as well... |
| 19:33.39 | jim | the other thing, is you might trace your ethernet cables and make sure it's what you expect... then (if needed) use dia and diagram your net, showing addresses/netmasks expected at each point, etc |
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| 19:34.22 | jim | then you can tell dia to convert to a gif or (preferably) a png, put it on a web page somewhere, and have someone look at it |
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| 19:34.33 | sparr_x4 | after mke2fs has chekced bad blocks (using badblocks i assume), how can i see how many (or which) blocks are bad? |
| 19:34.43 | streuner | JoshH: in 1991-92 you had to choose between 40-50 options for your videocard, we get those issues in most case solved and our videocards run then... |
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| 19:35.07 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: you know xrick? |
| 19:35.20 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, nope |
| 19:35.23 | jim | wow... you have lots and lots of errors there :) |
| 19:35.27 | bwlang | jim: the network diagram is pretty simple... just a few hosts on a switch |
| 19:35.34 | JoshH | heh, i still use xf86config/xorgconfig when setting up X these days |
| 19:35.35 | Rickdangerous | by the way kde 3.4.1 is in expereimental |
| 19:35.40 | Rickdangerous | regarding to the topic |
| 19:35.45 | bwlang | jim: how do you figure? |
| 19:35.47 | jim | and you are using a linux box as a gateway? |
| 19:35.58 | jim | the second eth0 says so |
| 19:36.05 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: freshmeat.net/projects/xrick/ ;) |
| 19:36.07 | jim | collisions |
| 19:36.10 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, oh xrick. I thought it's n |
| 19:36.12 | bwlang | jim: yep - lrp is the gateway. |
| 19:36.16 | Rickdangerous | ick |
| 19:36.33 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, yes I2ve played it long time ago and forgot. |
| 19:36.47 | bwlang | jim: eth0 is not active... it's only listed as up so ifplugd can watch for link... the route looks pretty simple to me. |
| 19:36.47 | streuner | JoshH: i didnt touch the setting in months, because in most cases xorg dont bring the winner vs. xfree86 |
| 19:36.52 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: heh cool ;) |
| 19:37.33 | streuner | JoshH: for my old ATI Rage 128 there arent any new drivers and for my new SiS i have to use a extern driver in order to get it to work |
| 19:37.49 | Rickdangerous | dieing* |
| 19:37.55 | mysurfguide | hehe |
| 19:37.58 | jim | you have a masq net inside a masq net?? |
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| 19:38.04 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: i'm fine as long as it's large (num pads!) |
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| 19:38.25 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, do you enter many numbers? :) |
| 19:38.27 | mysurfguide | I love the big rocks with huge keys |
| 19:38.36 | mysurfguide | too use to them for any new small buttons |
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| 19:38.40 | bwlang | jim: no - but i have a route to vmware - it's a local route only |
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| 19:39.03 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: i play nethack often ;) |
| 19:39.03 | GueVolt | Hi! I'm have a little problem. When i try change the ip(other subnet) of my eth0 the system is froze. I tried change the IP from the /etc/networks/interface and the ifconfig. I had seeing the logs but nothing is wrong. What is happening? |
| 19:39.15 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: hehe what a question "do you enter many numbers?" lolz |
| 19:39.18 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, I knew that :) |
| 19:39.30 | Rickdangerous | RichiH, and you prefer emacs too ;) |
| 19:39.41 | jim | GueVolt: safer to take the interface down before changing the ip in interfaces |
| 19:40.01 | jim | then bring the interface up |
| 19:40.11 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, i.e do you work at a bank. :) |
| 19:40.20 | GueVolt | jim: i tried do this. |
| 19:40.23 | jim | note that if you have open connections thru the interface you're changing, they will all hang |
| 19:40.40 | jim | and hopefully time out eventually |
| 19:40.44 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: nope i hate to shave me. and i hate that "beautiful" dresses |
| 19:41.10 | jim | twice... |
| 19:41.45 | simonrvn | spunds a bit like those nonsense phrases like some spammers use.. |
| 19:41.47 | GueVolt | jim: using the netstat, right ? |
| 19:41.50 | simonrvn | sounds* |
| 19:42.08 | jim | GueVolt: sure, you can see connections that way |
| 19:42.08 | toresbe | mysurfguide: those keytronics do rock. |
| 19:42.13 | tarzeau | jim: mine? |
| 19:42.14 | mysurfguide | I love em man |
| 19:42.15 | toresbe | mysurfguide: I'm using a Model M |
| 19:42.18 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: like that: http://www.lebenshilfe.de/marketing/rudi-design/Krawatte-Vogler2.jpg |
| 19:42.20 | mysurfguide | got 7 boxes here with em |
| 19:42.22 | GueVolt | jim: thanks jim! |
| 19:42.34 | mysurfguide | Keytronic MPR II here |
| 19:42.34 | toresbe | mysurfguide: also, there's a beautiful Norwegian brand KB |
| 19:42.42 | toresbe | mysurfguide: they were used in terminals. |
| 19:42.49 | mysurfguide | Not sure if I had that toresbe |
| 19:42.56 | jim | tarzeau: yeah... I couldn't make sense out of it... of course, maybe I don't have proper context |
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| 19:43.06 | mysurfguide | I had a brand new IBM keyboard, used it for 2 days and threw it out |
| 19:43.17 | mysurfguide | buttons way to small and too tight to eachother, annoyed me |
| 19:43.17 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, heh |
| 19:43.25 | mysurfguide | love the original ones |
| 19:43.29 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: where do you work? |
| 19:43.34 | jim | mysurfguide: too stiff, keys placed differently? |
| 19:43.47 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, I'm a student |
| 19:43.52 | mysurfguide | naw not too stiff but just a "Typo keyboard" instead of "Typing keyboard" hehe |
| 19:43.58 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: of what? |
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| 19:44.15 | jim | yeah, I didn't like mine for those reasons |
| 19:44.19 | jim | but it was cheap |
| 19:44.22 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, of mathematics department |
| 19:44.58 | mysurfguide | you use them oldies original as well? |
| 19:45.21 | mysurfguide | I cant help but love em |
| 19:45.51 | Rickdangerous | mysurfguide, those old IBM's are very good. |
| 19:45.52 | jim | what do you like about them? |
| 19:45.56 | tarzeau | i like them all, if they are US! |
| 19:46.03 | tarzeau | and not TR or DE or some other strange layout |
| 19:46.09 | jim | but if they are THEM? |
| 19:46.09 | mysurfguide | I dont have any :( ibm yet |
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| 19:46.20 | mysurfguide | oh man the sound, the feel, the spacing between the keys, the size of the keys |
| 19:46.24 | Rickdangerous | they have a small sewing system :) |
| 19:46.25 | mysurfguide | so much easier to work with |
| 19:46.47 | mysurfguide | they kickass for CLI |
| 19:46.55 | simonrvn | i find the us one to be a strange layout |
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| 19:47.04 | mysurfguide | lol same here simon |
| 19:47.20 | Rickdangerous | wasn't q layout for slowing fast typists? |
| 19:47.20 | mysurfguide | im in sweden, but my gf is from the states and I was there for a few years and had to deal with em |
| 19:47.23 | mysurfguide | it sucked |
| 19:47.52 | Rickdangerous | *invented for* |
| 19:48.06 | simonrvn | on old typewriters |
| 19:48.17 | jim | Rickdangerous: the qwerty layout, yes |
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| 19:48.20 | Rickdangerous | to prevebt jamming. |
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| 19:48.34 | mysurfguide | I got about 20 old keytronics laying here |
| 19:48.37 | shingouz | Rickdangerous: yes |
| 19:48.39 | mysurfguide | so I got spare :) |
| 19:48.41 | Rickdangerous | jim, so it's time to change the standard :) |
| 19:48.54 | jim | well you might try dvorak |
| 19:48.57 | Rickdangerous | mysurfguide, ming to send me one :) |
| 19:49.02 | Rickdangerous | mind* |
| 19:49.14 | mysurfguide | hehe naw not at all aslong as you pay the S&H :P |
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| 19:49.21 | jim | I never have, but people who have committed to it say it's much faster and easier |
| 19:49.30 | simonrvn | i don't mind qwerty, i'm a leftie |
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| 19:49.32 | GueVolt | hey jim! humm.. don't worked. look the state of packets on my eth0: Iface MTU Met RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg |
| 19:49.32 | GueVolt | eth0 1500 0 0 0 0 0 12 0 0 0 BMRU . Saw? 0.. |
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| 19:49.40 | tarzeau | some tv programs are just retarded |
| 19:49.47 | Yaroon | So, I just installed Debian Sarge NetInstall on this brand new PowerBook... |
| 19:49.56 | jim | tarzeau: s/some // |
| 19:50.00 | mysurfguide | am installing sarge right now on box 4 |
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| 19:50.04 | Yaroon | Will the backlight keyboard ever work? Or is that MacOSX only. |
| 19:50.20 | simonrvn | Yaroon: there's a module for it |
| 19:50.20 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, nearly all of them here. I don't watch tv |
| 19:50.26 | simonrvn | (kernel module) |
| 19:50.36 | dirthead | I am running woody r6 and the nfs server is not responding to nfs requests from client machines. Logs on the server show the requests are making it to the server, but logs on the client show RPC timeout. Any ideas? |
| 19:50.44 | jim | Yaroon: how do you like it so far? first time installing debian? |
| 19:50.47 | Yaroon | simonrvn: sweet. |
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| 19:50.50 | Fleck | how does debian spells in english ? |
| 19:50.58 | mysurfguide | Got 7 boxes at home with only debian |
| 19:50.58 | Yaroon | jim: I've used Debian for 6 years on my older laptop. |
| 19:51.01 | caphuso | Fleck: D-e-b-i-a-n |
| 19:51.06 | Fleck | :p |
| 19:51.14 | tarzeau | [de:bain] |
| 19:51.15 | streuner | hehe |
| 19:51.18 | Rickdangerous | Fleck, DEBorah and IAN |
| 19:51.20 | jim | Fleck: Deb married Ian |
| 19:51.23 | mysurfguide | :)yup |
| 19:51.30 | Yaroon | It broke down last month... and I was like, OK _everyone_ makes the switch to Apple because it has this cool MacOSX with all the Unix functionality... |
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| 19:51.46 | vile_maxim | trying to make an apache-ssl cert last more than 30 days and cannot seem to figure it out... any clues |
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| 19:52.08 | Yaroon | jim: but I've used it a little and was like hmm... I'm _too_ used to Linux and the way of doing things. So I just tried Sarge for ppc |
| 19:52.26 | dirthead | how do I debug nfs problems? |
| 19:52.31 | lucox | i have a problem start-stop-daemon --pidfile somefile ... doesn't create and nothing writes to this file even if's created |
| 19:52.54 | Yaroon | But it does look good, Tiger. |
| 19:53.08 | streuner | dirthead: you want do it professional? |
| 19:53.15 | jim | lucox: in a maintainer script/ |
| 19:53.16 | jim | ? |
| 19:53.30 | dirthead | streuner: what do you mean? |
| 19:53.32 | streuner | dirthead: or you wanna just fix your problems? |
| 19:53.33 | jim | or in a script in /etc/init.d? |
| 19:53.36 | slgreene | what up cheif |
| 19:53.40 | slgreene | chief |
| 19:53.50 | streuner | dirthead: in short tell us the first error you got |
| 19:54.32 | dirthead | Jun 4 12:53:20 brown automount[22470]: mount(nfs): nfs: mount failure 172.16.1.5:/mirror/home on /home/tbrown/automounts/nfs/home |
| 19:54.49 | lucox | jim: in my ini script in /etc/init.d/ |
| 19:54.49 | streuner | oh, autofs? |
| 19:54.54 | dirthead | Jun 4 12:53:35 brown automount[22472]: >> mount: RPC: Timed out |
| 19:55.08 | dirthead | yes autofs, even manual mount fails |
| 19:55.17 | streuner | dirthead: first thing comin to mind, is portmap running? |
| 19:55.31 | dirthead | portmap is running on both the client and server |
| 19:55.37 | streuner | firewall? |
| 19:55.44 | dirthead | no firewall |
| 19:55.52 | Rickdangerous | tcp wrapper? |
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| 19:56.18 | dirthead | i don't know about the tcp wrapper, how do I check that? |
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| 19:56.38 | jim | lucox: do you use --pidfile /fully/qualified/path/to/the/pid/file? |
| 19:56.39 | Rickdangerous | dirthead, /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} |
| 19:56.58 | dirthead | both allow and deny are empty |
| 19:57.04 | Rickdangerous | ok |
| 19:57.05 | jim | but they exist? |
| 19:57.14 | dirthead | things were working fine then all of a sudden it quit working |
| 19:57.19 | dirthead | they do exist |
| 19:57.43 | jim | you might check out man hosts_access to see what the implications of those files existing are |
| 19:58.13 | jim | the fact they exist has an effect... I just forgot what it is :) |
| 19:58.30 | streuner | dirthead: so what did you change in the meantime? |
| 19:58.41 | streuner | dirthead: upgrade to sarge? |
| 19:58.47 | Rickdangerous | they souldn't have |
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| 19:59.06 | dirthead | the only thing i can think of is i did an update from woody r5 to r6 about that time |
| 19:59.08 | Rickdangerous | ... "Otherwise, access will be granted." |
| 19:59.13 | Frafra | hi all |
| 19:59.26 | Frafra | are there w32codecs for amd64? |
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| 19:59.39 | Frafra | or w64 :D |
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| 19:59.52 | jim | err, man 5 hosts_access that is |
| 19:59.53 | Rickdangerous | hey what's the score betwwen greece and turkiye match? |
| 19:59.59 | streuner | dirthead: play with ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and find out which packages changed... |
| 20:00.02 | kullanici | ayy delircem |
| 20:00.10 | kullanici | Rickdangerous 0-0 |
| 20:00.27 | Rickdangerous | kullanici, hm ok |
| 20:00.44 | streuner | Rickdangerous: pretty boring, no goals... |
| 20:00.51 | jim | hmm, that's not what I remember, but you're right... |
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| 20:01.02 | Rickdangerous | streuner, because it's too import for the sides. |
| 20:01.09 | Rickdangerous | at least for turkey. |
| 20:01.18 | streuner | Rickdangerous: sure, but turkey have to win... |
| 20:01.18 | kullanici | yes :( |
| 20:01.29 | Rickdangerous | streuner, correct... |
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| 20:01.36 | jim | "A non-existing access control file is treated as if it were an empty file." |
| 20:02.20 | Rickdangerous | jim, so it doesn't matter. |
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| 20:02.43 | lucox | jim: yes |
| 20:02.57 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: do you remember bubble bobble? |
| 20:03.07 | jim | Rickdangerous: right... that used to be different... |
| 20:03.11 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, yes it was a capcom game for me. |
| 20:03.30 | jim | he's trolling for players :P |
| 20:03.33 | jim | it is fun tho |
| 20:03.46 | Rickdangerous | jim, hm the tcp wrapper concept is old. |
| 20:03.47 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: not taito? |
| 20:03.55 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: check this, http://bub-n-bros.sf.net #bub-n-bros |
| 20:03.59 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, well could be. I mean coin machine , |
| 20:04.02 | Rickdangerous | :) |
| 20:04.06 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: 10 player network crazy fun! |
| 20:04.14 | mysurfguide | I tried getting contra to work in a emulator, couldnt get it to work :( |
| 20:04.17 | dirthead | here is what was upgraded: bzip2.list libbz2-1.0.list vim.list vim-gtk.list |
| 20:04.38 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, I have to study. :( |
| 20:04.49 | streuner | dirthead: they aren't relevant |
| 20:04.52 | mysurfguide | anybody like to read Ebooks? |
| 20:05.00 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: mabbe another time |
| 20:05.22 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, sure. is it packaged for debian? |
| 20:05.37 | dirthead | also, when I ssh into the server, it is slow to login, usually it is right away |
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| 20:05.58 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: nope, it's a windows dir structure and not so easy to package (python, just unpack n run, ./BubBros.py) |
| 20:05.59 | jim | Rickdangerous: it might be, but you can get the tarball, unpack it, cd in there and run it |
| 20:06.05 | tarzeau | Rickdangerous: i started, gnu.ethz.ch/debian/bubnbros/ |
| 20:06.13 | Rickdangerous | tarzeau, I see. |
| 20:06.25 | Rickdangerous | got to study. later... |
| 20:06.29 | dirthead | i was thinking of upgrading the kernel in hopes that would fix things |
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| 20:07.25 | dirthead | this happened once before for a few hours then it fixed itself |
| 20:07.46 | jim | dirthead: possible... but you should read what the kernel changes in the summary |
| 20:07.48 | tarzeau | RichiH: we're at 99. wann ajoin the uber-banana-bonus 3minutes fun? |
| 20:08.02 | lucox | jim: any advice ? |
| 20:08.17 | streuner | dirthead: just install another kernel-image on both sides |
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| 20:09.05 | HyperZid | whats a good program to dissasamble a c binary to assembler or c code? |
| 20:09.10 | jim | lucox: see if you can tell start-stop-daemon to be verbose and see what it says |
| 20:09.24 | dirthead | streuner: ok, I'll give that a shot, thanks |
| 20:09.24 | jim | HyperZid: why not just start from the source |
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| 20:09.41 | HyperZid | jim: because I dont have the source |
| 20:10.01 | jim | download it... it's free software isn't it? |
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| 20:10.22 | Detox | anyone know what a th.k include file is ? ? |
| 20:10.34 | onoon | Does anybody know if a GTK+ 2.6 package for debian exists? Im having a hell of a time finding it |
| 20:10.58 | jim | onoon: try packages.debian.org |
| 20:11.13 | HyperZid | jim: no.. its a friend of me created it.. |
| 20:11.29 | jim | HyperZid: ask your friend for the source |
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| 20:11.35 | streuner | dirthead: man portmap would help too, option -v and/or -d |
| 20:11.37 | HyperZid | I should ask him for it.. |
| 20:11.37 | borius | WTF IS UP WITH GMAIL??? |
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| 20:12.04 | lucox | jim: nothing saying ... but i realised sth ... and i'm asking ... should daemon write his pid to pidfile alone ? |
| 20:12.07 | smacnay | how does one clear a jammed scsi device? I have my scsi card module loaded but not working. I try to rmmod it and it is in use. I try to kill the process ( 8015 ? 00:00:00 scsi_eh_0) using the module and it will not die. |
| 20:12.10 | onoon | jim: Im there right now but nothings coming up |
| 20:12.12 | HyperZid | but I want to check how its done.. |
| 20:12.17 | borius | arrggghh!!!! |
| 20:12.20 | borius | the end is nigh! |
| 20:12.34 | dirthead | struener: thanks, i'll try that also |
| 20:12.48 | HyperZid | i've been programming alot assembler theese days.. so its cool to see how its done in assembler |
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| 20:13.08 | streuner | dirthead: ls -lt /var/lib/dpkg/info/* | less |
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| 20:13.22 | jim | HyperZid: ask your friend for the source... if he/she wants you to have it, he/she will give it to you |
| 20:13.24 | streuner | dirthead: and look there which packages changed lately |
| 20:13.24 | Detox | help on finding about th.k include file ? ?? |
| 20:13.30 | kullanici | . |
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| 20:13.39 | jim | what's th.k? |
| 20:13.40 | HyperZid | jim, do you know about an good dissasambler? |
| 20:13.50 | Detox | dont know |
| 20:13.53 | Detox | but it is missing |
| 20:14.01 | HyperZid | jim: the thing is... that I want to check out how to dissasamble it.. |
| 20:14.06 | jim | Detox: sure you're spelling it right? |
| 20:14.07 | Detox | when itry to install quasar it sqys it is missing |
| 20:14.17 | kullanici | can you say an editor without vim pico emacs ? |
| 20:14.22 | lucox | should daemon write his own way his pid to pidfile or should it start-stop-daemon do ? |
| 20:14.27 | Detox | here is the message:: |
| 20:14.27 | jim | HyperZid: if you have the source, you can produce an asm listing |
| 20:14.31 | Detox | checking for tcl.h include... yes |
| 20:14.31 | Detox | checking for library containing Tcl_Init... -ltcl8.4 |
| 20:14.31 | Detox | checking for tk.h include... no |
| 20:14.31 | Detox | configure: error: missing tk.h include file |
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| 20:14.32 | FieldySnuts | @start an editor war |
| 20:14.32 | ravenbird | nano sucks |
| 20:14.37 | paulswm | kullanici: ed |
| 20:14.39 | FieldySnuts | yeah it does |
| 20:14.59 | HyperZid | jim: its possible to produce an asm listing from the binary too |
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| 20:15.18 | HyperZid | jim: i've done it before.. but cant remember with what program |
| 20:15.26 | Detox | checking for tcl.h include... yes |
| 20:15.26 | Detox | checking for library containing Tcl_Init... -ltcl8.4 |
| 20:15.30 | paulswm | Also cat .file, if you are creating a new file. |
| 20:15.36 | paulswm | cat > file I mean |
| 20:15.37 | jethro | !irritate paulswm |
| 20:15.38 | dpkg | paulswm: hi every1 how can I make my knoppix werkz !!!! |
| 20:15.40 | Detox | checking for tk.h include... no |
| 20:15.40 | dirthead | struener: that shows me that the pkgs that have changed recently (yesterday) were the same ones I listed before |
| 20:15.40 | Detox | configure: error: missing tk.h include file |
| 20:15.40 | streuner | Detox: /msg dpkg flood |
| 20:15.45 | streuner | Detox: /msg dpkg search |
| 20:15.52 | paulswm | !singlishsmite jethro |
| 20:15.53 | dpkg | jethro: Still say some more! Whack you then you know! |
| 20:15.55 | streuner | dirthead: ok |
| 20:16.05 | FieldySnuts | wtf? |
| 20:16.15 | FieldySnuts | !aussiesmite jethro |
| 20:16.16 | dpkg | jethro: yeahh bob's your uncle you stupid wanker |
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| 20:17.27 | sparr_x4 | where is the irc channel for the unreal ircd? |
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| 20:17.56 | jim | sparr_x4: maybe google knows |
| 20:18.11 | Esotericisms | how do I configure the xserver ... I Just installed it using apt-get |
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| 20:18.25 | Detox | ok can u tell me what dpkg -s /bin/foo means? |
| 20:18.34 | CruX_ | Sinistrad: /wc |
| 20:18.38 | streuner | Esotericisms: what videocard do you have? |
| 20:18.39 | CruX_ | sorry |
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| 20:18.42 | Detox | bin is a dir,,,, but what is foo? |
| 20:18.45 | sparr_x4 | jim: think about that for a second. im searching for the irc channel... FOR AN IRC DAEMON. not exactly a very quantifiable search |
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| 20:18.48 | gass | http://img122.echo.cx/my.php?image=gdmtheme23bt.png |
| 20:18.51 | jim | Detox: meaningless... it wants packagename |
| 20:19.00 | Detox | ok |
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| 20:19.13 | Esotericisms | hold on ... I need to check something first |
| 20:19.30 | jim | Detox: btw... do you see .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives? |
| 20:19.31 | Detox | so it would be dpkg -S tk.h ? |
| 20:19.38 | dabreegster | What's the easiest way to see your own IP (I don't mean 127.0.0.1, I mean the one others can use to talk to you? If it matters, I connect using wvdial. |
| 20:19.46 | vile_maxim | How do you get make-ssl-cert to allow a cert to last longer than 30 days? |
| 20:19.51 | jim | Detox: oh, -s or -S? |
| 20:20.04 | gass | dabreegster: ifconfig |
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| 20:20.15 | Detox | example shows capital S |
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| 20:20.49 | jim | Detox: that means search your filesystem for the file and if found, tell what package it's part of |
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| 20:21.38 | jim | Detox: but you might also try packages.debian.org to search the packages for tk.h and tell you what package it's in |
| 20:22.00 | Detox | thanks |
| 20:22.03 | dabreegster | gass: thanks |
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| 20:24.55 | flamesrock | hey, is gmail down for anyone else? |
| 20:24.56 | gurubie | Had Quicken working on it's crappy Win partition right from Debian Sid. Reinstalled, added wine packages and now lock up. What do I do know? I can't find google fix. I just want to be able to run it (again) so I can migrate to Kmymoney or something. |
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| 20:25.28 | flamesrock | gurubie: , have you tried crossover office? |
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| 20:25.36 | borius | what's going on with gmail????????!!!! |
| 20:25.43 | tarzeau | borius: it's broken |
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| 20:25.49 | FieldySnuts | uh, who cares this isn't #gmail |
| 20:25.49 | tarzeau | borius: wtf has it to do with debian? |
| 20:25.50 | tarzeau | !gmail |
| 20:25.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, gmail is a web mail service from Google that is _still_ not supported by Konqueror.... http://isnoop.net/gmailomatic.php |
| 20:25.51 | borius | tarzeau: arrghhhh! |
| 20:26.00 | borius | tarzeau: it's making me panic |
| 20:26.06 | gurubie | Crossover failed install into Linux so I'm falling back to what did work (before). |
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| 20:26.10 | tarzeau | borius: can't you run your own smtp server? |
| 20:26.16 | WildFire` | hello (: |
| 20:26.22 | borius | tarzeau: ah i remember you |
| 20:26.26 | FieldySnuts | !lart people depending on one system for mail |
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| 20:26.35 | tarzeau | borius: so? |
| 20:26.39 | gurubie | Anyone else running Sid upgraded and quicken via wine? |
| 20:26.40 | WildFire` | how would i go about getting a net install, i need to install linux on a 500 mb hdd with 128 megs and a 56k connections connected at 28.8 |
| 20:26.49 | tarzeau | gurubie: checked BTS yet? |
| 20:26.51 | tarzeau | !sid faq |
| 20:26.52 | dpkg | sid faq is, like, http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
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| 20:27.36 | gurubie | tarzeau, BTS? |
| 20:27.44 | tarzeau | !BTS |
| 20:27.44 | dpkg | it has been said that bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
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| 20:27.54 | borius | tarzeau: you were that unfriendly guy from #linux.ch |
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| 20:28.05 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 20:28.07 | gurubie | Oh I use apy-listbugs |
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| 20:28.10 | gurubie | apt |
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| 20:28.26 | gurubie | No bugs listed |
| 20:28.36 | paulswm | I never thought of tarzeau as unfriendly. |
| 20:28.38 | tarzeau | gurubie: got gdb? |
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| 20:28.41 | dondelelcaro | uh, apt has a few hundred bugs |
| 20:28.51 | tarzeau | paulswm: i wasn't. he was majorly off-topic looking for gun fans in switzerland |
| 20:28.55 | gurubie | tarzeau, gdb? |
| 20:28.57 | paulswm | Ah |
| 20:29.00 | tarzeau | !gdb |
| 20:29.00 | dpkg | well, gdb is gnu debugger |
| 20:29.02 | WildFire` | how would i go about getting a net install, i need to install linux on a 500 mb hdd with 128 megs and a 56k connections connected at 28.8 |
| 20:29.04 | shivraj | is there a debian package for RAR ? |
| 20:29.08 | shivraj | rarsoft ?? |
| 20:29.11 | dondelelcaro | shivraj: yes. |
| 20:29.12 | tarzeau | shivraj: yes, no |
| 20:29.15 | drp | !ddd |
| 20:29.16 | dpkg | rumour has it, ddd is The Data Display Debugger, a graphical frontend for GDB. |
| 20:29.18 | dondelelcaro | !tell shivraj about search |
| 20:29.33 | shivraj | oh I see |
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| 20:29.45 | jp | !gnome |
| 20:29.45 | dpkg | it has been said that gnome is a desktop environment - see http://www.gnome.org. a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, or not the same as gtk but the gnome developers don't know that, or see #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org, or not a window manager, or a barely-usable pile of crap |
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| 20:30.00 | cafe_roy | chan name pls > debian 64 |
| 20:30.03 | gurubie | shivraj, Unpack it with ark and run the result. |
| 20:30.12 | FieldySnuts | ask an actual question we can understand |
| 20:30.19 | dondelelcaro | cafe_roy: ? |
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| 20:30.42 | cafe_roy | can't find 64-bit channel |
| 20:30.56 | dondelelcaro | cafe_roy: it's #debian-amd64 |
| 20:31.02 | cafe_roy | thanks |
| 20:31.02 | dondelelcaro | unless you want sparc |
| 20:31.04 | gurubie | shivraj, or naybe I should say ark will combine them to a viewable file. Ark the main one. |
| 20:31.28 | shivraj | I think I'll compile the source |
| 20:31.30 | tarzeau | cafe_roy: #sparc is one |
| 20:31.40 | tarzeau | cafe_roy: so is #alpha and #mipslinux |
| 20:31.46 | shivraj | I dont know why people use RAR |
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| 20:32.09 | FieldySnuts | i guess they like lame licenses |
| 20:32.17 | vile_maxim | shivraj, unrar is free.... |
| 20:32.19 | gurubie | Anyone have wine sucess with Sid updated? |
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| 20:32.58 | jim | gurubie: sid is on you for the most part... it's known to be unstable, sometimes more than other times |
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| 20:33.05 | tarzeau | gurubie: /msg dpkg repeat |
| 20:33.13 | addNtoX | hoi folkzZzZzZzZzZzZzZz |
| 20:33.21 | simonrvn | ffs |
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| 20:33.51 | cafe_roy | yes yes - right 1st time ! |
| 20:34.26 | jim | it's absolutely possible for you to come across a problem that no one else has seen... you're pretty much expected to have the ability to find, isolate, fix and post such problems if you run sid. |
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| 20:35.09 | shivraj | vile_maxim : how do you compile it ? |
| 20:35.27 | jim | not by typing make? |
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| 20:36.10 | shivraj | jim: nope that doesnt work |
| 20:36.40 | shivraj | it has some makefile.unix and makefile.msc makefile.bcc |
| 20:37.01 | jim | ok... when you're given the sources for some program, you unpack the source... the first thign to do after that is read any README |
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| 20:37.45 | shivraj | jim: there aren't any :) |
| 20:38.01 | shivraj | let me try google |
| 20:38.15 | jim | then INSTALL? |
| 20:38.23 | jim | is there no docs at all? |
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| 20:38.34 | jim | if yes... pick somethign else to compile :) |
| 20:39.18 | jim | go to gnu.org, get hello-*.tar.gz |
| 20:39.20 | jim | unpack |
| 20:39.28 | jim | read every file in there |
| 20:39.36 | jim | (won't take you too long) |
| 20:39.50 | jim | (yes friends, that's -every- file) |
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| 20:40.39 | shivraj | no there arent any, and on freshmeat there are all kinds of postings |
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| 20:40.47 | shivraj | someone should write a Makefile for this project |
| 20:40.56 | jim | it's a REALLY good intro to a lot of different things, including compiling from fairly standard-laid-out sources |
| 20:41.05 | shivraj | u gotta compile it with gcc |
| 20:41.09 | jim | someone should write a README for that project :P |
| 20:41.34 | addNtoX | when i want to have latex inputenc, which package do i have to install? |
| 20:41.35 | jim | anyways, my earlier suggestion still stands... |
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| 20:42.06 | jim | addNtoX: see if packages.debian.org knows |
| 20:42.35 | jim | the tex that debian has packaged is tetex |
| 20:42.43 | shivraj | jim: someone should create a .deb package |
| 20:43.01 | jim | that can be you! :) |
| 20:43.27 | shivraj | I am clueless, just started using debian |
| 20:43.37 | dondelelcaro | !info rar |
| 20:43.38 | dpkg | rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (sid), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 419 kB |
| 20:43.46 | jim | you could try make -f makefile.unix |
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| 20:44.25 | shivraj | I dont think its in my sources.list |
| 20:44.54 | jim | shivraj, my earlier suggestion -still- stands... get hello from gnu.org and read all files and try to build it |
| 20:45.37 | Esotericisms | when I go to startx I get error '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or directory' |
| 20:45.39 | Esotericisms | any ideas? |
| 20:45.40 | jim | it's a -stellar- intro to a lot of different things, not the least of which is how to build from source |
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| 20:46.23 | jim | ftp the damn thing from ftp.gnu.org |
| 20:46.33 | dondelelcaro | Esotericisms: you haven't installed xserver-xfree86 |
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| 20:47.07 | shivraj | jim: hello ? |
| 20:47.08 | Esotericisms | k |
| 20:47.11 | shivraj | or rar ? |
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| 20:47.18 | jim | shivraj: hello |
| 20:47.20 | OBGurl | can anyone tell me how I find the path to exim? |
| 20:47.37 | juanmals | !reddo |
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| 20:48.16 | jim | OBGurl: you can look at the full list of all files installed by the exim package. want to do that? dpkg -L exim |
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| 20:48.45 | trenl | Hi, I'm trying to set quota on my server, I have kernel with quota compiled in (CONFIG_QUOTA=y; CONFIG_QFMT_V2=m; CONFIG_QUOTACTL=y), quota_v2 module loaded, then touch /home/aquota.user; chmod 600 /home/aquota.user and quotacheck -vagum. Bud when I try to set quota to user with quotatool -u trenl -bq 200M -l '250 Mb' /home it write: quotatool: Error while detecting kernel quota version: No such process -kernel 2.6.11.9 |
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| 20:48.47 | trenl | any idea ? |
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| 20:50.08 | Esotericisms | what is the command to configure my display settings? |
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| 20:50.27 | KerPlunk | Depends on the window manager you are using. |
| 20:50.30 | valdyn | !drxx Esotericisms |
| 20:50.30 | dondelelcaro | !tell Esotericisms -about xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:50.31 | dpkg | Esotericisms: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 20:50.34 | Esotericisms | k |
| 20:50.47 | Esotericisms | thanks |
| 20:50.48 | dondelelcaro | !tell Esotericisms -about set up x |
| 20:51.11 | KerPlunk | !tell Esotericisms -about window manager |
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| 20:51.30 | Frater_Sx | hello |
| 20:51.38 | Frater_Sx | I need help in changing the keyboard in Xwindows. |
| 20:51.47 | KerPlunk | Frater_Sx: No one can help you unless you ask a question. |
| 20:51.48 | Frater_Sx | I remember there was a file to edit but I forgot which |
| 20:52.28 | dondelelcaro | Frater_Sx: the keyboard is typically set in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 20:52.34 | Frater_Sx | YEP!!! |
| 20:52.38 | Frater_Sx | that was the file!!!! |
| 20:52.41 | Frater_Sx | thanks a lot =)))) |
| 20:52.46 | Frater_Sx | I just forgot which =) |
| 20:52.49 | Frater_Sx | you are great |
| 20:52.52 | Frater_Sx | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 20:53.47 | Esotericisms | error 'Fatal server error: failed to initialize core devices' |
| 20:53.50 | Frater_Sx | I have checked google but I have found nothing |
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| 20:54.03 | Frater_Sx | where can I learn more about configuration files of X_ |
| 20:54.04 | Frater_Sx | ? |
| 20:54.40 | silverton | Esotericisms, did you do a net install? it got to the gui, then you restarted? |
| 20:55.00 | Esotericisms | I did a kde and xserver-free86 install from apt-get |
| 20:55.21 | silverton | Esotericisms, normally, you want to do a x-window-system-core |
| 20:55.33 | silverton | 'apt-get install x-window-system-core' |
| 20:55.48 | Esotericisms | k |
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| 20:56.17 | jim | Frater_Sx: for one, you might try man X |
| 20:56.39 | streuner | Esotericisms: what videocard do you have? |
| 20:56.51 | jim | that right there is a lot of information |
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| 20:57.08 | dut | hello all! |
| 20:57.14 | Esotericisms | streuner, unfortunately a radeon ati |
| 20:57.17 | Frater_Sx | jim: thanks. does it tells even about configuration files? |
| 20:57.35 | silverton | damn 'man X' does have a lot of information |
| 20:57.41 | jim | Frater_Sx: take a look :) |
| 20:57.50 | streuner | Esotericisms: sent the card to me ! |
| 20:57.52 | silverton | Esotericisms, :( I feel sorry for you :) |
| 20:57.54 | Frater_Sx | great! thanks a lot =) |
| 20:58.15 | jim | if you have questions after that, feel free to stick around and ask |
| 20:58.28 | streuner | Esotericisms: maybe you have more luck then ... ;-) |
| 20:58.41 | jim | (I suspect you might have questions that you do not expect to have at this moment) |
| 20:58.51 | silverton | hmm....I need to get this 486SX up... |
| 20:59.14 | jim | the sx is the one without math? |
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| 20:59.28 | streuner | Esotericisms: install X now and /msg dpkg ati |
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| 21:00.08 | mysurfguide | got a problem getting the RSA key for my SSH box right again, anybody know how to shut this off in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? |
| 21:00.15 | silverton | jim, I believe so, but it has the the "OverDrive" |
| 21:00.38 | streuner | mysurfguide: by reading man sshd_config? |
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| 21:01.51 | hoopy_ | is there a way to search for packages with apt-get? |
| 21:02.02 | streuner | !tell hoopy_ about search |
| 21:02.20 | jim | hoopy_: you can use apt-cache search, or look on packages.debian.org |
| 21:02.20 | rubicant | !borken |
| 21:02.20 | dpkg | borken should auto-correct to broken |
| 21:02.30 | mysurfguide | how would I go about getting my RSA key? |
| 21:02.48 | jim | mysurfguide: look in (yourhomedir)/.ssh |
| 21:03.01 | mysurfguide | ty jim |
| 21:03.28 | jim | and also man 5 ssh_config and man 5 sshd_config |
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| 21:03.47 | silverton | ROFL! |
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| 21:03.58 | silverton | "Key Board Error Press <F1> to continue" |
| 21:04.01 | jim | (if as and when you want to change the attributes described by those files) |
| 21:04.03 | silverton | omg... |
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| 21:04.27 | jim | silverton: press any key to continue; press any other key to abort |
| 21:04.34 | silverton | werd |
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| 21:04.44 | paulswm | dammit, jim beat me to it, I was just typing that |
| 21:04.57 | jim | i'm quicker than you :) |
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| 21:05.30 | papaj | hey all |
| 21:06.00 | paulswm | Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers, and nobody thinks of complaining. |
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| 21:06.33 | paulswm | ^^ Jeff Raskin in DDJ |
| 21:06.59 | jim | one thing, don't fly in a plane on thursdays... |
| 21:07.13 | Nielsen | This happens to us all the time with WINDOWS! |
| 21:07.20 | sparr | smartctl is telling me foreboding things about my hard drive, how bad is it? Self-test execution status: ( 116) The previous self-test completed having the read element of the test failed. | ATA Error Count: 5465 | # 1 Extended offline Completed: read failure 40% 5801 388527 |
| 21:07.25 | Nielsen | Microsoft PlaneOS ? |
| 21:07.26 | jim | not jsut thursdays?! |
| 21:07.45 | simonrvn | never had that happen in linux... wtf is that guy talking about? |
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| 21:08.03 | Nielsen | simonrvn: guess you never had a redhad workstation :P |
| 21:08.12 | paulswm | One more, sorry, but it is kind of apropos to #debian... |
| 21:08.14 | paulswm | Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. |
| 21:08.28 | Nielsen | so true |
| 21:08.31 | simonrvn | Nielsen: nor a redhat one |
| 21:08.35 | Frater_Sx | bye and thanks!!! you are precious!! |
| 21:08.35 | Frater_Sx | =))) |
| 21:08.58 | kromagg | and bad metaphors are the number one reason for bad policy |
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| 21:10.04 | papaj | what do run levels 2-5 do in debian |
| 21:10.14 | papaj | anything in paticular? |
| 21:10.19 | maher | papaj: they all do the same thing by default |
| 21:10.28 | papaj | ive been uing mandrake |
| 21:10.34 | DaCa | papaj: they are all the same by default, its up to you if you want to change it |
| 21:10.35 | jim | !u |
| 21:10.36 | paulswm | papaj: They are left for the local administrator |
| 21:10.36 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 21:10.47 | jim | oh, wait, uing != u |
| 21:10.53 | papaj | and some are multi user with or with out networking |
| 21:11.03 | jim | wasn't JR a uing? |
| 21:11.06 | paulswm | !fruitsmite jim |
| 21:11.06 | papaj | oh ok |
| 21:11.17 | pingouin | dpkg: go listening old school prince's lp with lyrics printed on..stupid bot ! |
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| 21:11.42 | papaj | im running Xebian on the xbox and i want to go to a runlevel with out X |
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| 21:11.53 | raboof | hum. does bash tab-completion fail for files with a space in the filename for you, too? |
| 21:11.57 | simonrvn | #xebian |
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| 21:12.12 | raboof | (unstable, looks kinda like bug 306043, but that only talks about executables) |
| 21:12.14 | papaj | when using mandrake i just go to 3 |
| 21:12.21 | paulswm | !xebian |
| 21:12.21 | dpkg | [xebian] debian for xbox, probably comletely broken, or yet another not-debian distro |
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| 21:12.49 | valdyn | papaj: debian does not use runlevels for this, try '/etc/init.d/[k|d|x]dm stop' |
| 21:12.57 | paulswm | papaj: /join #xebian - xebian is not debian |
| 21:13.02 | plugwash | i'm sure i read before that cp -r and cp -R were different but the debian man page and cp -? don't seem to mention this |
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| 21:13.08 | papaj | thoguth i was based on it |
| 21:13.10 | jim | papaj: normally all runlevels are the same by default... if you want one to be different, alter the runlevel to make that happen |
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| 21:13.20 | paulswm | !based on debian |
| 21:13.20 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 21:13.49 | jim | papaj: well see, yes, it is based on it.... but note that people would have to learn every one |
| 21:14.05 | papaj | hmm ok |
| 21:14.07 | papaj | thanks guys |
| 21:14.23 | beardy | raboof: If you do like this 'ls "some ugly space fi<TAB>' it should work. |
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| 21:15.22 | raboof | beardy: oh, hey. it works find with `ls', indeed. only with openoffice it fails |
| 21:15.42 | raboof | interesting :) |
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| 21:16.16 | DaCa | mv /etc/rc2.d/S??laptopmode K00laptopmode |
| 21:16.30 | DaCa | wce |
| 21:16.35 | hackeron | can someone tell me how debian manages to overcome the restriction of not allowing '.' in usernames? |
| 21:17.17 | p2-mate | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.25 | raboof | hackeron: i guess by not allowing them, and configuring whatever mail server software is used to convert names-with-dots into the actual usernames |
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| 21:18.11 | mae | so what are the plans to migrate to xorg? |
| 21:18.15 | hackeron | raboof: no, they are allowed on debian, but not on other distributions, I'm asking how |
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| 21:18.22 | deadcat | mae: when sarge is out. |
| 21:18.28 | deadcat | mae: first thing in the morning |
| 21:18.32 | thayboiMu | wow |
| 21:18.35 | sparr | hackeron: err, we compiled adduser without that restriction? :) |
| 21:18.35 | thayboiMu | i can't wait :D |
| 21:18.36 | mae | sarge is out tommorow? :) |
| 21:18.43 | deadcat | mae: then tomorrow morning. |
| 21:18.43 | thayboiMu | 6 |
| 21:19.04 | hackeron | sparr: hmm |
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| 21:19.14 | thayboiMu | sarge is out on Monday right? |
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| 21:19.32 | alekibango | thayboiMu: TOPIC |
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| 21:19.38 | thayboiMu | yup |
| 21:19.41 | gravity | mae: As soon as the packages are ready to go, x.org will go in to experimental. As for unstable, that's not really certain yet |
| 21:19.43 | mae | you mean sarge is stable on monday, right? |
| 21:19.52 | gravity | mae: That's the plan |
| 21:19.53 | paulswm | Supposedly |
| 21:19.58 | mae | hehe |
| 21:20.01 | gravity | Sarge will likely beat out X.org packages by a few days |
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| 21:20.05 | dubba | hi all |
| 21:20.07 | dubba | someone from usa with knowledge about internet connections and some time here ? If yes please query me |
| 21:20.12 | hackeron | sparr: dont see that option in either pam or shadow |
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| 21:20.13 | mae | ic. |
| 21:20.18 | dondelelcaro | dubba: if you have a question, just ask it. |
| 21:20.22 | Virtual | When I try to resize my desktop I get the message : "Your X server does not support resizing the display. Please update to version 4.3 or higher. You need the X resize and rotate extension (RANDR) version 1.1 or grater to use this feature" |
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| 21:20.31 | Virtual | Does anybody have any idea:? |
| 21:20.39 | mhall | Couple of questions. 1) What's the best way to increase the amount of text that will fit on my console if the nvidia fb driver won't display on my nv card? 2) What is there that is a good KDE/Qt/X audio player that does not use skins? I hate skins. |
| 21:20.49 | deadcat | dubba: we aint gonna come to you just so we can help your ass. |
| 21:20.55 | gravity | Virtual: What version of X are you running? |
| 21:20.56 | dondelelcaro | Virtual: it means pretty much what is says. 1) You need to be using X > 4.3; 2) you need to have xrandr |
| 21:20.59 | alekibango | mhall: vga=791 |
| 21:21.07 | dondelelcaro | s/>/>=/ |
| 21:21.08 | alekibango | (vesa) |
| 21:21.08 | sparr | mhall: consolefonts! :) |
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| 21:21.13 | JoeyG | Is VMWare the best solution for me to offer VPS hosting services? |
| 21:21.14 | sparr | what alekibango said too |
| 21:21.16 | mhall | alekibango: alright, i'll do vga=ask on next boot and try it |
| 21:21.25 | mhall | alekibango: what character res is it? |
| 21:21.26 | Virtual | well 1 is wrong, I have 4.3 |
| 21:21.32 | Virtual | and 2 how do I get xrandr? |
| 21:21.33 | alekibango | hmm lots, lol |
| 21:21.33 | dondelelcaro | dubba: read /topic and refrain from /msg'ing me. |
| 21:21.36 | sparr | mhall: change from a 9x16 font to a 8x9 font |
| 21:21.49 | gravity | Virtual: Check /var/log/XFree.log to see if it was loaded at all |
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| 21:21.50 | hackeron | is there any specific option in pam to allow '.' in usernames? |
| 21:21.56 | alekibango | mhall 128x48 |
| 21:22.03 | mae | how does debian do on g5 |
| 21:22.04 | trenl | Has anybody working qouta on 2.6.11 kernel ? |
| 21:22.04 | sparr | alekibango: with 8x16? |
| 21:22.07 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: hahah. |
| 21:22.13 | adrian_h | One of my /etc/init.d/ services always starts itself every day. How can I turn it off permanently, yet still keep it installed and keep the ability to turn it on manually whenever I need it? |
| 21:22.15 | deadcat | trenl: yes. |
| 21:22.27 | JoeyG | Is VMWare the best solution for me to offer VPS hosting services? |
| 21:22.29 | alekibango | sparr: heh i do not know i do not see well |
| 21:22.36 | sparr | Adrian: unlink it from /etc/rc.something |
| 21:22.38 | maher | adrian_h: use update-rc.d |
| 21:22.40 | paulswm | adrian_h: edit the script and make the first line 'exit 0' |
| 21:22.48 | mhall | sparr: any idea for a UTF8 one? |
| 21:22.48 | mhall | also, about UTF8, how do I get manpages to quit putting fucked up control sequences onto my screen all the time? |
| 21:22.48 | mhall | fuck |
| 21:22.49 | deadcat | JoeyG: not sure for you. but definately not for me |
| 21:22.52 | silverton | okay, not sure if any of you can help me with this but, when booting from the floppy disks, I get this error (after putting in the root.bin floppy) modprobe: modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.2.20/modules.dep (No such file or directory) |
| 21:23.00 | Virtual | gravity in that log it says that Randr is enabled |
| 21:23.03 | JoeyG | deadcat: what would you recommend? |
| 21:23.04 | adrian_h | paulswm: Are you joking? |
| 21:23.05 | trenl | deadcat: works on your system command quotatool ? |
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| 21:23.24 | deadcat | JoeyG: i dont use vpn. sorry. no clue here. |
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| 21:23.44 | mhall | motherfuckin flaky wireless |
| 21:23.45 | deadcat | trenl: repquota, quota works for me.. you do have to set it up dont you know? |
| 21:23.51 | JoeyG | I want to setup a VPS not VPN |
| 21:24.02 | mhall | I have doubled up directional 8db antennae and it still drops |
| 21:24.02 | maher | JoeyG: some people use uml or xen |
| 21:24.05 | mhall | what that hell? |
| 21:24.11 | paulswm | adrian_h: no, that would work fine, but you may prefer to unlink it instead |
| 21:24.32 | mhall | how do i keep the man page rendering from putting fucked up characters on my utf8 console |
| 21:24.34 | trenl | deadcat: I've tryied quotatool -u trenl -bq 20G -l '25Gb' /home and it write: quotatool: Error while detecting kernel quota version: No such process |
| 21:24.38 | deadcat | mhall: you telling me brother. i got this crappy ZyDas g usb card. i got the driver compile. i can set it to master/ad-hoc/managed mode, but it wont connect to no one. |
| 21:24.39 | gravity | Virtual: What program is giving you that error? |
| 21:24.42 | adrian_h | paulswm: Would I still be able to start the service by running "/etc/init.d/foo start"? Wouldn't the "exit 0" prevent that? |
| 21:25.01 | mhall | deadcat: yeah i finally gave up on cards and used an ethernet bridge device |
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| 21:25.10 | Virtual | I am sorry gravity what did you say ? |
| 21:25.16 | gravity | Virtual: What program gives you that error? |
| 21:25.20 | mhall | deadcat: so it's not a driver problem because i've sent hundreds of gigs with that net driver before |
| 21:25.26 | paulswm | adrian_h: yes, I thought you said you wanted it turned off permanently, sorry |
| 21:25.26 | deadcat | trenl: have you just use quota to set? |
| 21:25.28 | mhall | deadcat: it's more a question of interference |
| 21:25.38 | maher | deadcat: is it usb? |
| 21:25.45 | Virtual | when I try to resize the desktop from Configure Desktop |
| 21:26.02 | adrian_h | paulswm: I just don't want it to start itself each morning. Which runlevel is telling it to start itself every morning? I haven't rebooted the machine in months. |
| 21:26.05 | gravity | Virtual: I don't know what that is |
| 21:26.08 | deadcat | maher: ya. another one (=. this is $15 .11g though. quality of the product is bad. design is bad. chipset is not working yet. (= |
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| 21:26.19 | trenl | deadcat: I have kernel with quota compiled in (CONFIG_QUOTA=y; CONFIG_QFMT_V2=m; CONFIG_QUOTACTL=y), quota_v2 module loaded, then touch /home/aquota.user; chmod 600 /home/aquota.user and quotacheck -vagum. Bud when I try to set quota to user with quotatool -u trenl -bq 200M -l '250 Mb' /home it write: quotatool: Error while detecting kernel quota version: No such process -kernel 2.6.11.9 |
| 21:26.26 | simonrvn | dude, you get what you pay for |
| 21:26.29 | mhall | deadcat: but one would think it's a little hard for interference to fuck up a 50-foot link with 2 8dbs on one end and 1 8db on the other |
| 21:26.31 | maher | adrian_h: if it runs every day its probably started by cron - look in cron.aily |
| 21:26.39 | mhall | deadcat: that really should be sufficient juice |
| 21:26.45 | deadcat | (= |
| 21:26.47 | gravity | Virtual: Is this a KDE control panel thing? |
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| 21:27.09 | maher | deadcat: i have a usb one which is b i think - it doesn't confirm to usb spec and so i had to patch the kernel to even get the kernel to see it |
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| 21:27.10 | mhall | deadcat: i could cook a chicken with these fucking antennae |
| 21:27.10 | paulswm | adrian_h: check the runlevel directories for the link(s) to the script in /etc/init.d |
| 21:27.13 | Virtual | gravity, yes |
| 21:27.21 | deadcat | mhall: hahaha. |
| 21:27.52 | maher | adrian_h: i mean /etc/cron.daily |
| 21:28.01 | silverton | when booting from the floppy disks, I get this error (after putting in the root.bin floppy) modprobe: modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.2.20/modules.dep (No such file or directory) |
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| 21:28.15 | mhall_ | fucking shit |
| 21:28.23 | humbolt | Is there any open source editor that is capable of formatting a html file for me? I want tabs and spaces set in a way that makes it easy to read, so I can see on the first sight, where tables begin and end. |
| 21:28.24 | adrian_h | maher: Nothing in there, but I notice it has an entry in /etc/logrotate.d -- would that start the service? |
| 21:28.26 | mhall | wtf |
| 21:28.30 | simonrvn | plonp |
| 21:28.34 | beardy | !tell silverton about repeat |
| 21:28.42 | mhall | humbolt: there's got to be one |
| 21:28.50 | gravity | Virtual: Run xrandr -v in console |
| 21:28.50 | mhall | humbolt: it's more of a question of which is best |
| 21:28.51 | maher | adrian_h: quite possibly |
| 21:29.09 | mhall | humbolt: for one thing i have some rules that will syntax highlight the code, you could use that with nano |
| 21:29.16 | humbolt | quante does not seem to have such a feature nor does bluefish |
| 21:29.25 | luulis | silverton: do you really want to use woody when sarge is out tomorrow (well, depending on where you live (timezone)) |
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| 21:29.33 | deadcat | maher: i got this: the usb: http://www.netaffilia.com/ad/electronics/frys/i/2005/06/03/10709.html |
| 21:29.38 | mhall | humbolt: one option is using what's called a pretty printer |
| 21:29.39 | Virtual | gravity: Virtual:~# xrandr -v |
| 21:29.39 | Virtual | Can't open display (null) |
| 21:29.41 | gravity | Hopefully out... there's still a few RC bugs |
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| 21:29.42 | silverton | luulis, it's for a 486SX |
| 21:29.45 | silverton | with no cd-rom drive |
| 21:29.48 | humbolt | syntax highlight is one thing, everybody can do that, but none formats the code for you |
| 21:29.50 | eddyp | does anybody experiences problems with gaim in sarge? |
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| 21:29.54 | mhall | humbolt: another thing, there are some good PHP editors that work well with HTML |
| 21:29.55 | gravity | Virtual: That's odd. How did you install? |
| 21:29.59 | luulis | silverton: ah, ok |
| 21:30.09 | mhall | humbolt: and the PHP editors will usually support what you need |
| 21:30.20 | jim | eddyp/msg dpkg sicco |
| 21:30.28 | silverton | luulis, yeah, so I'm kinda stuck with using the floppies ;P |
| 21:30.36 | humbolt | mhall: so what is a good php editor? |
| 21:30.39 | Virtual | as always apt-get install x-window-system-core after that kde and after that I installed the ati drivers |
| 21:30.41 | maher | deadcat: well i hope its less of a pain for you than my one was for me... |
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| 21:30.51 | eddyp | read(9, "", 131072) = 0 |
| 21:30.51 | eddyp | _llseek(9, 335609856, [335609856], SEEK_SET) = 0 |
| 21:30.55 | eddyp | err |
| 21:30.57 | eddyp | sorry |
| 21:31.19 | deadcat | maher: did you try the 2.4 kernel with the linux-wlan module? |
| 21:31.31 | gravity | Virtual: That's it. You installed the ati drivers. I can't help you. non-free software with problems is out of bounds. |
| 21:31.34 | mhall | humbolt: if you have a look at packages.debian.org and freshmeat, there are several |
| 21:31.47 | mhall | humbolt: and people reported good results to me with those |
| 21:32.03 | gravity | Virtual: You can use your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file to change your screen res and such, but not on the fly |
| 21:32.06 | maher | deadcat: for zd1201? no i used the zydas driver off of the sourceforge site |
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| 21:32.15 | Virtual | gravity, ok thanks |
| 21:32.21 | trenl | deadcat: no idea ? |
| 21:32.22 | JoeyG | Can Debian run on XEN? |
| 21:32.23 | deadcat | maher: oh. this is not the prism usb? |
| 21:32.25 | deadcat | trenl: nope |
| 21:32.26 | beardy | humbolt: take a look at hindent |
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| 21:32.30 | gravity | JoeyG: Yes |
| 21:32.32 | Virtual | but the ati drivers aren`t free ? :) |
| 21:32.37 | JoeyG | gravity, thnx |
| 21:32.42 | gravity | Virtual: Not in the DFSG-sense |
| 21:32.48 | maher | JoeyG: yes - xen is a virtual machine - any os can run on it |
| 21:32.49 | deadcat | maher: haha. then we have a similar crappy zd12[01]1 HAHHA. |
| 21:33.06 | trenl | deadcat: any other way how to set quota to user as with quotatool via script ? |
| 21:33.14 | maher | deadcat: zd1201 is in 2.6.12-rcwhatever |
| 21:33.38 | eddyp | I am experiencing problems when trying to start gaim; it never does; I want to see if this is a gaim/debian/ppc problem? |
| 21:33.38 | deadcat | trenl: i use setquota -p protouser thisuser |
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| 21:33.50 | tarzeau | eddyp: also try #debianppc |
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| 21:34.02 | DaCa | maher: thats not true, the os has to be ported to be run under xen, its paravirtualization, not emulation |
| 21:34.18 | deadcat | maher: ah. mine is zd1211, the origin of the driver is "a mystery" (= |
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| 21:34.32 | trenl | deadcat: ok thnx |
| 21:34.50 | mhall | dpkg: hello |
| 21:34.50 | dpkg | Hi, mhall! |
| 21:35.02 | eddyp | tarzeau: I never get rid of you, do I ? :) |
| 21:35.04 | mhall | !botsnack |
| 21:35.12 | maher | DaCa: well - there you go |
| 21:35.20 | tarzeau | eddyp: do you want to? |
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| 21:35.53 | mhall | does anybody know of an XFS free space wiper |
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| 21:36.17 | eddyp | tarzeau: not quite. You've been helpful |
| 21:37.04 | jetscreamer | abrotman: so how went the helping static ip become dhcp |
| 21:37.14 | mhall | how about an X media player with Qt/KDE look and no evil skins? |
| 21:37.15 | deadcat | maher: how do i know if zd1211 is going to be in 2.6.12... ? |
| 21:37.15 | K_Dallas | Hi guys! I have a big problem with my desktop. Running Sarge-2.4.11-1. I cannot log into gnome or kde (havent tried the rest) as myself not the root and i get this error: Cannot find ICE authenticity or Authorisation or something. Could comeone please help here? thanks |
| 21:37.16 | abrotman | jetscreamer: huh?: |
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| 21:37.44 | jetscreamer | that's .ICEauthority |
| 21:37.50 | maher | deadcat: umm... grep the changesets? |
| 21:37.55 | K_Dallas | No write access to '/home/user/.ICEauthority' is actually the error |
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| 21:38.07 | maher | deadcat: i only found out about zd1201 by accident |
| 21:38.08 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: hahaha |
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| 21:38.13 | jetscreamer | chown you:you ~ |
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| 21:38.22 | K_Dallas | how on hell has this happened? |
| 21:38.31 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: i find people like you , with your "i have a BIG problem" messages very funny. especially on the weekends |
| 21:38.32 | jetscreamer | K_Dallas: chown you:you ~ |
| 21:38.39 | maher | K_Dallas: can you log in on console? |
| 21:38.42 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: and it's funny you mention "gnome or kde" on the same line |
| 21:38.44 | paulswm | K_Dallas: is yur home directory a seperately mounted filesystem? |
| 21:38.44 | tarzeau | cracks me so up |
| 21:38.45 | jetscreamer | -R even |
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| 21:38.55 | K_Dallas | all on the same hd and partition |
| 21:39.03 | JoeyG | Does XEN run as its own OS or on top of a linux install like Debian? |
| 21:39.06 | jetscreamer | K_Dallas: chown you:you ~ -R |
| 21:39.06 | swim | do i need to install gtk2-engine or something seperatley? |
| 21:39.08 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: and you haven't done anything. it all worked yesterday |
| 21:39.11 | tarzeau | HILARIOUS |
| 21:39.14 | K_Dallas | tarzeau, it is a big problem, i just got home and cannot log into my system! |
| 21:39.20 | paulswm | !prize tarzeau |
| 21:39.20 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: OMG |
| 21:39.21 | maher | JoeyG: why not read the xen faq |
| 21:39.24 | jetscreamer | actually, i got that one once |
| 21:39.31 | tarzeau | paulswm: come on |
| 21:39.31 | jetscreamer | and i didn't do anything either |
| 21:39.39 | K_Dallas | i have logged as root right now tho |
| 21:39.41 | gravity | K_Dallas: Did you change anything between the time you last were able to long in and now? |
| 21:39.46 | jim | K_Dallas: try ctrl-alt-F1 |
| 21:39.49 | gravity | s/long/log/ |
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| 21:39.52 | K_Dallas | gravity, i think i did some update |
| 21:39.55 | paulswm | Sometimes people do it when they create a separate filesystem and forget to mount it and set the perms right |
| 21:39.58 | gravity | K_Dallas: What updated? |
| 21:40.09 | K_Dallas | well let me think :) one was gaim |
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| 21:40.24 | K_Dallas | i did also used some xfree86 updates |
| 21:40.29 | jetscreamer | tsk |
| 21:40.41 | jim | K_Dallas: go through each and every item you updated then determine if and how this could/did affect your situation |
| 21:40.47 | jetscreamer | why |
| 21:41.00 | gravity | K_Dallas: Who owns your ~/.ICEauthority? |
| 21:41.03 | jetscreamer | delete .ICEauthority and .Xauthority and some others |
| 21:41.11 | K_Dallas | i try so but this does not mean that my system is compromised, does it? |
| 21:41.15 | jetscreamer | no |
| 21:41.19 | silverton | So, when sarge is released, do I have to change my sources.list from testing to stable ? |
| 21:41.20 | K_Dallas | good |
| 21:41.24 | K_Dallas | let me check the owner |
| 21:41.25 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: unlikely |
| 21:41.30 | jetscreamer | silverton: you don't have to, but you could |
| 21:41.32 | gravity | silverton: If you want to keep using sarge, then yes |
| 21:41.35 | jim | silverton: change it to sarge now |
| 21:41.42 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: i don't know anyone who wants to break into a system that has gnome or kde |
| 21:41.43 | gravity | silverton: If you want to keep using testing when it becomes etch, then no |
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| 21:41.49 | jasoncohen | how do i remove unused dependencies? |
| 21:41.55 | K_Dallas | gravity, root is the owner! |
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| 21:41.57 | gravity | jasoncohen: deborphan is great |
| 21:42.00 | silverton | Okay, thanks for the answers... I think I'll stick with testing :D |
| 21:42.01 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: apt-get --purge remove `deborphan` |
| 21:42.01 | jim | that's one way to continue using sarge |
| 21:42.02 | jetscreamer | deborphan seems unlikely |
| 21:42.05 | tarzeau | jasoncohen: also run vrms |
| 21:42.07 | gravity | K_Dallas: Well, you botched something. Delete them and then try logging in |
| 21:42.11 | jasoncohen | tarzeau, thanks |
| 21:42.30 | tarzeau | paulswm: maybe he can NEVER login anymore! |
| 21:42.48 | jetscreamer | i told you it's easy to fix, ignore me |
| 21:42.57 | paulswm | tarzeau: tut, tut, bad :) |
| 21:43.05 | jetscreamer | at worst, delete ~ cept for .bash* |
| 21:43.09 | jetscreamer | or mv |
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| 21:43.16 | acidbeat311 | does anyone know if it is possible to open Mplayer from within a C file? |
| 21:43.19 | paulswm | Noooo |
| 21:43.20 | gravity | What a waste. Just delete the ones that give errors. Duh. |
| 21:43.22 | jim | K_Dallas: that would tend to explain why write access not granted for nonroot user :P |
| 21:43.24 | tarzeau | acidbeat311: but why? |
| 21:43.29 | jetscreamer | yeah i think it's doable |
| 21:43.33 | paulswm | It's prolly just the authorities |
| 21:43.38 | SerajewelKS | i'm having trouble using a Logitech Attack 3 joystick on debian... dmesg shows some odd error, and after i stick it in the whole USB hub dies |
| 21:43.40 | K_Dallas | jim: i rarely log in as root |
| 21:43.48 | K_Dallas | i have to sudo for updates only |
| 21:43.51 | acidbeat311 | i am using an LCD with a keypad to control a streaming radio box |
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| 21:43.57 | mae | is kde 3.4 in sid? |
| 21:44.01 | tarzeau | mae: no |
| 21:44.02 | acidbeat311 | and the navigation is written in c |
| 21:44.06 | jetscreamer | no but it's on alioth |
| 21:44.16 | jim | K_Dallas: perhaps the file was created when you did |
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| 21:44.26 | K_Dallas | probable |
| 21:44.28 | maher | acidbeat311: you can run a command from c |
| 21:44.33 | SerajewelKS | first i get 'usb 1-3.2: new low speed USB device using address 5' |
| 21:44.35 | tarzeau | acidbeat311: there's fork/exec or system() |
| 21:44.41 | SerajewelKS | then: |
| 21:44.42 | SerajewelKS | drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: ctrl urb status -2 received |
| 21:44.42 | SerajewelKS | drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: usb_submit_urb(ctrl) failed |
| 21:44.53 | SerajewelKS | then the hub dies |
| 21:44.54 | mae | jetscreamer is there a good place where i can find out about the main 3rd party repo's? |
| 21:45.00 | acidbeat311 | fork/exec or system()? how would that work? |
| 21:45.06 | tarzeau | acidbeat311: man |
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| 21:45.11 | jim | anyways... you could get a list of all files in your home dir beginning with .<someLetter> |
| 21:45.22 | jim | and make sure your user owns them all |
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| 21:46.36 | jetscreamer | mae i'm sure there is but all i know about is alioth and marillat |
| 21:46.49 | jetscreamer | (or care about eh ) |
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| 21:47.33 | K_Dallas | so, now you could laugh :) i might laugh along too ;) |
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| 21:48.00 | K_Dallas | i also updated thunderbird from sid! |
| 21:48.21 | FieldySnuts | !aussiesmite K_Dallas |
| 21:48.22 | dpkg | K_Dallas: yeahh bob's your uncle you stupid wanker |
| 21:48.57 | K_Dallas | i said laugh not to insult |
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| 21:49.50 | Gnea | hrm |
| 21:50.40 | jim | K_Dallas: if you run sid, you're expected to have the ability to find and fix your own problems... which might be ones never seen by helpers... after you find and fix, send the fix to the BTS |
| 21:51.23 | paulswm | !fruitsmite FieldySnuts |
| 21:51.37 | FieldySnuts | pointed stick? |
| 21:51.49 | Gnea | !helixsmite paulswm |
| 21:52.07 | paulswm | o.O |
| 21:52.09 | K_Dallas | jim: i try only to install those packages from sid which are not critical to the system but i might be wrong sometimes |
| 21:52.21 | paulswm | That's kind of creepy |
| 21:52.45 | SerajewelKS | so um yeah |
| 21:52.53 | SerajewelKS | still waiting on the joystick-bringing-down-usb problem |
| 21:52.56 | Gnea | K_Dallas: your best bet here is to take everything with a grain of salt. :) |
| 21:53.18 | jim | K_Dallas: whenever you do that, you take on full responsibility for all consequences for that... but then, you always have that responsibility anyway |
| 21:53.23 | Gnea | there's a joystick-bringing-down-usb problem? |
| 21:53.32 | K_Dallas | have you guys ever thought that maybe some of the visitors here are minors and that this chan is not an 18+ chan after all? |
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| 21:53.42 | K_Dallas | that is true jim |
| 21:53.44 | zOap | SerajewelKS, you'll get your help faster without comments like that |
| 21:53.47 | paulswm | Gnea: scroll back 9 mins |
| 21:54.01 | Gnea | K_Dallas: has it ever occurred to you that this is real life chat, not tv? |
| 21:54.03 | SerajewelKS | zOap, you wouldn't have noticed without my comments |
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| 21:54.10 | gravity | K_Dallas: The minors are usually the ones with the perverted humor anyway |
| 21:54.13 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: yes i always do |
| 21:54.29 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: that's why i try to be nice, honey |
| 21:54.30 | K_Dallas | gravity, that is true yet doesnt remove the responsibilty from others |
| 21:54.39 | K_Dallas | ;) tarzeau |
| 21:54.45 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: you want me to spank FieldySnuts, love? |
| 21:54.47 | paulswm | SerajewelKS: you've been patient, I would have done the same |
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| 21:54.52 | K_Dallas | i was not critisizing tho |
| 21:54.54 | tarzeau | FieldySnuts: come over here you naughty boy! |
| 21:55.00 | SerajewelKS | paulswm, thanks |
| 21:55.07 | zOap | SerajewelKS, that may be true |
| 21:55.07 | tarzeau | FieldySnuts: we are responsible for you |
| 21:55.10 | FieldySnuts | boy? |
| 21:55.14 | Gnea | K_Dallas: if it's not criticism then what is it? |
| 21:55.14 | FieldySnuts | Phated: help! |
| 21:55.25 | K_Dallas | wasnt it a question? |
| 21:55.26 | paulswm | SerajewelKS: yw, I wish I could help. |
| 21:55.27 | FieldySnuts | it was me being a dick, sorry |
| 21:55.29 | tarzeau | FieldySnuts: girl then |
| 21:55.37 | tarzeau | FieldySnuts: hey ;) you know i was kidding |
| 21:55.44 | SerajewelKS | so does this joystick just not comply with HID standards, or is my linux setup borked? |
| 21:55.47 | paulswm | !tell _darkKnight_ about away |
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| 21:56.02 | jim | K_Dallas: as far as I'm concerned, if a minor comes in here, I don't get to know whether they are a minor unless they yell "ImaMiner!!!" really loud |
| 21:56.14 | tarzeau | jim: hahaha |
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| 21:56.41 | K_Dallas | i know and even so who could rely on the saying ;) i was merely talking in general not a person in particular |
| 21:56.44 | jim | but if I do that, I ask if they're a miner for the county... |
| 21:56.44 | zOap | paulswm, I still think it's better to ask the question all over again, rather than.. umm, yeah. are you gonna help me or what |
| 21:56.58 | SerajewelKS | zOap, so you want me to flood my 7 lines again |
| 21:57.08 | jim | SerajewelKS: NO. |
| 21:57.14 | jim | put it on a web page |
| 21:57.14 | SerajewelKS | okay then |
| 21:57.18 | zOap | yes |
| 21:57.24 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: don't assume we know the problem. |
| 21:57.28 | paulswm | ! what's really annoying |
| 21:57.28 | dpkg | repeating |
| 21:57.37 | Gnea | !tell SerajewelKS about ask |
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| 21:57.41 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, even though i told you |
| 21:57.48 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: no, you did not. |
| 21:58.08 | jim | doesn't matter |
| 21:58.11 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, scroll up |
| 21:58.17 | SerajewelKS | bye, gotta run |
| 21:58.18 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: hell no |
| 21:58.20 | SerajewelKS | thanks for being so helpful |
| 21:58.23 | paulswm | SerajewelKS did the right thing IMO, asked a question, waited 10 minutes, then did a one line reminder |
| 21:58.54 | Gnea | he could've taken it to #flood |
| 21:59.01 | Gnea | instead of getting an attitude about it |
| 21:59.02 | joel_ | any hints on getting flash player to work with mozilla? I can't remember what made the trick last time I installed it.. (had to reinstall firefox) |
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| 21:59.22 | paulswm | And all anyone wanted to do was argue about it |
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| 21:59.34 | Gnea | well i asked what the problem was |
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| 21:59.41 | jim | or put it on a web page like requested... but yeah, the one-line reminder was fairly smart and not too intrusive |
| 21:59.42 | joel_ | I have the flash player files in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox (flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so) |
| 21:59.51 | Gnea | then the only direct response i got was "i already said what the problem was" |
| 21:59.54 | Gnea | so |
| 21:59.56 | Gnea | whatever |
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| 22:00.03 | paulswm | Gnea: It was a few lines scrollback, unless you joined sice |
| 22:00.08 | joel_ | sorry typo: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins of course |
| 22:00.35 | jim | joel_: look at about:plugins |
| 22:00.41 | Gnea | oic it now |
| 22:00.42 | Gnea | oh well |
| 22:00.52 | paulswm | !fruitsmite Gnea |
| 22:00.54 | paulswm | :D |
| 22:01.01 | Gnea | his attitude sucked, fuck 'em till he gets a clue, i'm not getting paid for this ;) |
| 22:01.15 | Gnea | mmm pineapples |
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| 22:01.19 | Gnea | yum |
| 22:01.32 | tarzeau | Gnea: you like them on toast too? |
| 22:01.39 | paulswm | That sounds good |
| 22:01.44 | Gnea | tarzeau: and pizza |
| 22:01.44 | joel_ | jim: it looks alright, but it doesn't work |
| 22:01.48 | tarzeau | yeah |
| 22:01.50 | paulswm | I like them on gammon steaks |
| 22:01.52 | Gnea | :) |
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| 22:02.34 | silverton | can someone explain the differences of "bf2.4" "compact" "idepci" and "safe" to me? |
| 22:02.42 | tarzeau | silverton: woody? |
| 22:02.50 | tarzeau | !bf24 |
| 22:02.51 | dpkg | i guess bf2.4 is boot floppies with a 2.4.x kernel. Read the install guide (ask me about "install guide"). Press F3 when the woody CD is at the boot: prompt for a list of images. |
| 22:02.51 | jim | silverton: those are all the old installer |
| 22:02.51 | silverton | I believe so, they are boot floppies |
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| 22:03.15 | SunUltra5 | Hi all has anyone gotte the new Deer Park Alpha 1 release of Firefox to compile yet? I keep getting a message saying that I need GTK >2.0 installed and I have 2.4.0. |
| 22:03.27 | jim | and that was the name of the old installer too, boot-floppies... the name of the new installer is debian-installer |
| 22:03.35 | silverton | I think there is something wrong with the "safe" images since it can't open the "modules.dep" file, I think I"ll try bf2.4 |
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| 22:03.43 | paulswm | How quaintly last century :P |
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| 22:04.02 | jim | last millenium too :) |
| 22:04.06 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: u here? |
| 22:04.11 | paulswm | Heh, true |
| 22:04.27 | tarzeau | and before billennium too, no? |
| 22:04.28 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: what up. the card dont so shit. |
| 22:04.50 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: the card doesnt work ? |
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| 22:05.01 | jim | billennium can get his own time divider :P |
| 22:05.09 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: add fry's to the list.. |
| 22:05.13 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. it loads/cmopile. but nobody can connect to or from |
| 22:05.18 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: (=. |
| 22:05.30 | paulswm | tarzeau: 'billennium"? No more talk about Microsoft, please :P |
| 22:05.36 | tarzeau | !billennium |
| 22:05.36 | dpkg | Got the archives? Check'em out at http://properkernel.com/billennium/ . |
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| 22:05.50 | tarzeau | paulswm: you've missed the great date +%s fun? |
| 22:06.05 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i will try to ask online for some help though. some people got it to talk to an AP. damn them. |
| 22:06.51 | paulswm | tarzeau: you mean http://www.armory.com/~images/?s=billionSecBday |
| 22:06.59 | tarzeau | paulswm: yeh |
| 22:07.08 | initech | paulswm: oh no not that! |
| 22:07.21 | paulswm | initech: :) |
| 22:07.22 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I need you to do something for me... I need you to put the C header files that match my running kernel into /usr/src/linux/include,,,, I dont think you are suppose to move them there.. your suppost to build it or something and get those files there.. |
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| 22:07.38 | paulswm | tarzeau: I thought I was geeky, but that is utra-geek |
| 22:07.43 | paulswm | ultra |
| 22:07.45 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: what you trying to build? |
| 22:08.00 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: user "ash" wouldnt work after I tried to reboot so I just make a new user... |
| 22:08.02 | jasoncohen | is there any way to remove all the build-deps for a package. I built gnomemeeting and since i found the problem i have no need to build it again or to keep the 44 build deps. |
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| 22:08.18 | initech | paulswm: that is geeky in a non-positive way. I don't think one could put a good spin on that web page. No way. |
| 22:08.26 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: installing nmware-distrib |
| 22:08.28 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: whats that got to do with C header files? |
| 22:08.34 | deadcat | o |
| 22:09.02 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.11.10) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.8-2-686-smp). Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] |
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| 22:09.45 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh. but whats that got to do with ash? |
| 22:10.03 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: it's asking me where they are and I dont know... already downloaded this kernels -header and -source files... |
| 22:10.11 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: nothing... was just telling you.. |
| 22:10.19 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: made a new user called linux |
| 22:10.23 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: works fiune |
| 22:10.26 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: let me in and take a look. no guarantee |
| 22:10.31 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh. |
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| 22:10.58 | hackers | ok |
| 22:11.11 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: go ahead. |
| 22:11.21 | deadcat | ip |
| 22:11.37 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: 68.126.232.171 |
| 22:11.48 | hackers | so i get my k3b burning and it all burns great till it goes to flush the cache... SYNCHRONOUS FLUSH CACHE failed with SK=3h/ |
| 22:11.53 | deadcat | in |
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| 22:12.16 | pekkele | how i can counter strike 1.6 server on debian :-) |
| 22:12.26 | hackers | asc=0Ch/ACQ==00h] input output error |
| 22:12.30 | hackers | any clue what that means |
| 22:12.31 | zOap | hackers, your nick offends me:D |
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| 22:12.40 | zOap | hackers, your nick offends me:D |
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| 22:12.48 | hackers | lol zOap |
| 22:12.54 | bucky | hackers, i had that problem once with knoppix |
| 22:12.57 | hackers | <3 THE MOVIE |
| 22:13.07 | TwistedEmotions | Are you serious? |
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| 22:13.12 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: try with ash again. your perm is all fucked. |
| 22:13.18 | TwistedEmotions | that movie was the worse... |
| 22:13.23 | hackers | it was telling me before i had problems with dvd+rw-tools |
| 22:13.25 | john | no, it's a good movie ;p |
| 22:13.36 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: dont trip... fuck the ash account.. ill just delete it.. |
| 22:13.38 | hackers | can i uninstall that and install that with inpunaty ? |
| 22:13.39 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hes a moron (=. morons love that movie. |
| 22:13.41 | zOap | TwistedEmotions, $#%# y%$elf |
| 22:13.44 | zOap | :D |
| 22:13.45 | bucky | TwistedEmotions, that movie was made before you were born |
| 22:13.50 | hackers | yeah |
| 22:13.54 | hackers | GREAT movie |
| 22:13.56 | pekkele | how i can counter strike 1.6 server on debian :-) tips re welcome!! |
| 22:13.57 | hackers | and besides |
| 22:14.00 | zOap | aah, the age thingy... not again... |
| 22:14.08 | hackers | it had angelina joli before all the surgery |
| 22:14.12 | pekkele | how i can make counter strike 1.6 server on debian :-) tips re welcome!! |
| 22:14.14 | deadcat | pekkele: RTFMMF |
| 22:14.27 | john | I enjoy most computer movies, we don't own the movie industry you know. |
| 22:14.28 | TwistedEmotions | bucky: 1) no... 2) a worm doesnt ACTUALLY look like a worm jumping around on your HD... |
| 22:14.29 | zOap | agreed, in hackers you can actually see her face, not just all lips |
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| 22:14.36 | pekkele | hi all anyway =) |
| 22:14.39 | pekkele | <# |
| 22:14.42 | pekkele | <3 |
| 22:14.43 | pekkele | :D |
| 22:14.48 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i forgot what to do again. (= |
| 22:14.51 | zOap | pekkele, stop trolling |
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| 22:15.05 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: #flood |
| 22:15.12 | yacoob | hm, release date from topic still fresh? |
| 22:15.21 | zOap | yes |
| 22:15.35 | pekkele | zOap: stop stoping me |
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| 22:15.52 | zOap | ! troll pekkele |
| 22:15.58 | soyuz | hi kids |
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| 22:16.39 | pekkele | zOap =) NEED TO MAKE COUNTER 1.6 !!!! |
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| 22:16.50 | hackers | so yeah can i uninstall that thing and install it and not worry ? the um dvd+rw-tools package? |
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| 22:16.54 | yacoob | only 9 bugs to go... |
| 22:16.55 | dondelelcaro | pekkele: stop with the caps, please. |
| 22:16.56 | zOap | pekkele, yeah, I noticed. This is not the way to get help |
| 22:17.11 | leoster | has anyone had azureus worked in debian? |
| 22:17.15 | pekkele | ok thnx anyway for lintenin ;) |
| 22:17.17 | hackers | yeah |
| 22:17.21 | hackers | az in debian is the shit |
| 22:17.28 | hackers | make sure your java is in rihgt |
| 22:17.32 | hackers | *right even |
| 22:17.48 | hackers | but it runs so dam smooth |
| 22:17.51 | leoster | hackers: but i can't install java |
| 22:18.09 | zOap | leoster, you can't?? |
| 22:18.17 | soyuz | I've picked up a really strange problem: despite several reboots samba is no longer allowing NT domain logins. This is really strange because there has been no change on the server, the smb.conf is the SAME as it has been for the last five years, no software has been added or changed recently... and I am STUMPED. |
| 22:18.29 | leoster | hackers: apt-get install says its not installable |
| 22:18.43 | dondelelcaro | soyuz: have you changed smbpassword? Did the nt machines change? have you added them to the domain? |
| 22:18.54 | themolester | libapache-mod-php4: Depends: php4-common (= 4:4.3.10-13) but 4:4.3.10-15 is to be installed |
| 22:19.00 | leoster | zOap: where can i find the package |
| 22:19.11 | tarzeau | soyuz: hey kid |
| 22:19.11 | bucky | soyuz, new firewall rules ? |
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| 22:19.28 | themolester | nm |
| 22:19.32 | themolester | needed apt-get update |
| 22:19.34 | zOap | leoster, apt-cache search java |
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| 22:19.43 | tarzeau | soyuz: it's not nice to call the people here kids, and then ask for help |
| 22:19.47 | soyuz | dondelelcaro: hey there! no, nothing has changed. I came in this morning, booted up the two win98 machines and a w2k machine, and none of them wants to log in |
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| 22:20.02 | jasoncohen | so, once you install the build-deps for a package, you can't easily uninstall them unless you do it individually? |
| 22:20.08 | bucky | soyuz, something has changed then |
| 22:20.15 | leoster | zOap: i tried that jamvm, kafee... but no sun java |
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| 22:20.29 | Esotericisms | how can I force the vncserver to use kde? |
| 22:20.37 | maher | tarzeau: you don't like being reminded you're still in high school, do you? |
| 22:20.52 | zOap | leoster, go to sun.com/java and look for the linux download. compare this to whatever is in apt-cache |
| 22:21.04 | tarzeau | maher: you've got a problem? |
| 22:21.05 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: compile seems done. try to start it or something |
| 22:21.11 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: are you screen -x? |
| 22:21.42 | maher | tarzeau: many - can I tell you about them? |
| 22:21.44 | soyuz | bucky, in the log it shows a message at 1:29 am (after I left) : [2005/06/04 01:29:07, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_data(436) read_data: read failure for 4. Error = No route to host |
| 22:22.03 | deadcat | maher: can your zd1201 do master mode? |
| 22:22.11 | tarzeau | maher: feel free to, if they are on-topic |
| 22:22.18 | hackers | zOap, sorry to repeat again, but can i just uninstall and reinstall dvd+rw-tools and not worry about breaking too much stuff in teh process? |
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| 22:22.25 | bucky | soyuz, some ip addresses changed |
| 22:22.31 | dondelelcaro | soyuz: hrm... well, that's the typical reason... sometimes the windows machines fall off of the domain |
| 22:22.33 | czm | Is it possible with adsl connection with dynamic dns in the sense that if i ever had a power cut and my router disconnected and reconnected to adsl then my ip would change to setup dns server on my local machine to server my own domain name e.g. www.mydomain.com ? |
| 22:22.35 | bucky | are you running it as a win server |
| 22:22.36 | soyuz | that in itself is wierd... because there were no smbmounts ... and no w98/2k clients (they had been shut down |
| 22:22.39 | Esotericisms | how can I make vncserver use KDE |
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| 22:22.43 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: screen -x didnt work |
| 22:22.44 | zOap | hackers, well, you might. Why do you wanna do that anyway? |
| 22:22.51 | maher | deadcat: no |
| 22:22.51 | soyuz | bucky: checked that first :) |
| 22:22.53 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hmm. well its compiled. |
| 22:23.05 | bucky | soyuz, listen to dondelelcaro ^^ |
| 22:23.07 | TwistedEmotions | kk gimme a second |
| 22:23.26 | soyuz | bucky, thx |
| 22:23.37 | deadcat | maher: mine comes with a cd for windows which can do master and managed. and i can set them to master/managed/ad-hoc on linux. but none of them do anything (=. |
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| 22:23.44 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: aww fuck you installed the program? |
| 22:23.45 | soyuz | dondelelcaro I'm sorry, what do you mean by "fall off of the domain" ? |
| 22:23.54 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. am i not suppose to? |
| 22:23.59 | bucky | tarzeau, you can get a lot out of that.. look at Mary Kay Letourneau and Vili Fualaau |
| 22:24.02 | Esotericisms | how can I make vncserver use KDE |
| 22:24.04 | leoster | zOap: i tried it, but no progress, can you tel me the package name, there are java-runtime , ... but none of them can be installed :( |
| 22:24.17 | zOap | hackers, just be careful with dependencies while you do it |
| 22:24.20 | dondelelcaro | soyuz: in order for a machine to log into the domain, it must be part of the domain. In order for it to do that, it must have been added to the domain by an administrator |
| 22:24.29 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: no not that... I just though you complied so I ran the script again now it removed the install and reinstalling... its okay should work now |
| 22:24.33 | soyuz | dondelelcaro correctamundo |
| 22:24.43 | maher | deadcat: i don't have any windows boxes to test with - I stopped fiddling with it once I got it to work... |
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| 22:24.49 | zOap | leoster, no, I don't know the name... hang on a minute. what debian are you using? |
| 22:24.51 | soyuz | dondelelcaro and that is exactly how they've been for the last 5 years |
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| 22:25.03 | Esotericisms | how can I make vncserver use KDE |
| 22:25.07 | deadcat | maher: ya. i used my sis's machine. since i took the ther prism2 usb card from taht box. (=. |
| 22:25.10 | dondelelcaro | soyuz: yes, and that's most likely what is broken now. |
| 22:25.19 | leoster | zOap: woodie |
| 22:25.28 | soyuz | dondelelcaro it's got me frikkin stumped |
| 22:25.30 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i am gonna get some breakfest now (=. |
| 22:25.32 | FieldySnuts | Esotericisms: edit ~/vnc/xstartup |
| 22:25.36 | dondelelcaro | soyuz: have you attempted to add these machines back to the domain? can you even see the domain? can they ping anything? |
| 22:25.41 | zOap | leoster, ok, hang on |
| 22:25.55 | maher | soyuz: turn up the log level and stare at the logs |
| 22:25.59 | FieldySnuts | same format as ~/.xinitrc |
| 22:26.03 | soyuz | dondelelcaro everyone pings everyone else perfectly |
| 22:26.11 | leoster | zOap: thx in advance :) |
| 22:26.43 | soyuz | dondelelcaro haven't TOUCHED the smb.conf (cause it WORKS -- er worked) |
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| 22:27.10 | dondelelcaro | soyuz: the smb.conf has nothing to do with this |
| 22:27.10 | Esotericisms | FieldySnuts, that didn't seem to work |
| 22:27.29 | abrotman | did winbindd die ? |
| 22:27.37 | FieldySnuts | http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/features/found_mol_spacesuits.html |
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| 22:27.50 | soyuz | dondelelcaro apparently from smbclient -L it shows all the machines happy happy |
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| 22:28.07 | Esotericisms | FieldySnuts, what should I change exactly in that file, maybe I changed to wrong line |
| 22:28.10 | soyuz | one big happy CIF-alous family ... |
| 22:28.51 | soyuz | dondelelcaro from the server I can mount the w98/2k shares no problem |
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| 22:31.12 | FieldySnuts | Esotericisms: i have no idea i don't run kde |
| 22:31.12 | zOap | leoster, you can try java-common, libapache-mod-jk, libcommons-daemon-java, I don't know what you are trying to do with java though... |
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| 22:31.48 | leoster | zOap: i am going to install azureus |
| 22:31.49 | dondelelcaro | soyuz: yes, but can the clients see them? |
| 22:32.21 | zOap | leoster, aah, yes that's true... Well, it's a tough one, I've never done it myself... |
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| 22:33.20 | paulswm | FieldySnuts: Thanks for the NASA link, that's interesting :) |
| 22:33.23 | leoster | zOap: it seems sun's java is not free software, im reading the faq |
| 22:33.29 | zOap | leoster, read the azureus docs and look for "what you need" |
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| 22:33.46 | zOap | leoster, java is free under gnu/gpl I think |
| 22:34.42 | leoster | zOap: you are right but they cant make a debian package, read the faq |
| 22:35.04 | soyuz | dondelelcaro apparently not. checked the w2k machine, it sees the two w98 machines and their shares... and their files |
| 22:35.27 | zOap | leoster, that's true. But if you only need the java for browser say mozilla, then you can use the mozilla vlc plugin |
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| 22:35.30 | leoster | zOap: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/InstallJava |
| 22:35.31 | soyuz | dondelelcaro I meant to say apparently yes. |
| 22:35.40 | zOap | leoster, ok |
| 22:35.44 | luulis | zOap: GNU classpath, kaffe, gcj etc. are free but not, for example sun's jvm |
| 22:35.45 | marcelo3587 | hola |
| 22:36.06 | soyuz | dondelelcaro the w2k machine sees THIS machine right here (a samba print server) |
| 22:36.08 | zOap | luulis, ok, leoster , did you get that? |
| 22:36.12 | leoster | zOap: but the problem is azureus, i need vm installed |
| 22:36.43 | zOap | leoster, then apparently you need to compile it yourself from the binaries |
| 22:36.44 | paulswm | sun java is certainly not GPL'ed |
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| 22:37.28 | zOap | paulswm, ok, thanks:) |
| 22:37.36 | soyuz | dondelelcaro and it seems the w98 machines see everyone else ... |
| 22:37.36 | leoster | zOap: perhaps, but it seems i can make the debian package im trying from the faq and google |
| 22:37.41 | paulswm | zOap: yw |
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| 22:38.00 | zOap | leoster, ok, try that. and come back if it fails |
| 22:38.07 | soyuz | dondelelcaro EXCEPT THE SERVER! the machines see everyone else EXCEPT the domain controller! wtf? |
| 22:38.21 | zOap | paulswm, pardon my english, but what does yw stand for? |
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| 22:38.42 | paulswm | zOap: 'You're Wlecome', sorry |
| 22:38.46 | paulswm | Welcome |
| 22:38.57 | tarzeau | paulswm: it's so hard to resist |
| 22:39.10 | zOap | paulswm, ok, it's my head, it's twisted:) and veeery slow:D |
| 22:39.14 | paulswm | !fruitsmite tarzeau |
| 22:39.21 | soyuz | dondelelcaro I've rebooted the server TWICE as well today... cause the machines wouldn't log on... weird |
| 22:39.27 | tarzeau | i love strawberries |
| 22:39.31 | paulswm | zOap: :) |
| 22:40.01 | dondelelcaro | soyuz: well, there you go... |
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| 22:40.26 | soyuz | dondelelcaro for sure, dealing with MS CIFS waddaya expect |
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| 22:40.34 | zOap | soyuz, well, rebooting rarely is the answer... |
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| 22:40.46 | mae | oh how i loathe my isp |
| 22:41.06 | soyuz | z0ap: thanks, but I knew that already. |
| 22:41.12 | zOap | mmm, I can smell the vibes in here... people all stressed out |
| 22:41.19 | tarzeau | mae: what does he do (not)? |
| 22:41.23 | paulswm | mae: That sounds like the fisrt line of a song :P |
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| 22:41.26 | soyuz | in fact, rebooting only helps MS products |
| 22:41.36 | mysurfguide | Guys I got a small problem while trying to remove BIND |
| 22:41.37 | tarzeau | minor problems of ms products |
| 22:41.37 | zOap | soyuz, just a reminder, many thinks that reboot is a good thing, coming from windoes |
| 22:41.38 | mysurfguide | dns:~# apt-get --purge remove bind |
| 22:41.38 | mysurfguide | Segmentation faultsts... 0% |
| 22:41.41 | mae | hehe |
| 22:41.43 | mysurfguide | Sorry for the paste |
| 22:41.44 | tarzeau | reinstalls helps major problems |
| 22:41.51 | mae | never ever get direcway |
| 22:42.06 | soyuz | zOap you got that right |
| 22:42.17 | tarzeau | zOap: i'm chilling honey, it's weekend |
| 22:42.30 | soyuz | my servers run 24/7/365 |
| 22:42.38 | paulswm | mae: That's the directv satellite thing isn't it? |
| 22:42.43 | soyuz | mostly I'm to lazy to reboot them |
| 22:42.49 | zOap | soyuz, I actually had a similar problem. It solved itself after i reinstalled windoes... so... |
| 22:42.50 | soyuz | or shut them down overnight |
| 22:43.07 | zOap | tarzeau, mmm, honey, yummi |
| 22:43.08 | soyuz | zOap FU*K that! |
| 22:43.10 | mysurfguide | Anybody else ever had a segfault occure while trying to remove with APT? |
| 22:43.13 | mae | paulswm: yes, i didn't have much of a choice .. but its not worthit.. i live beyond cable and dsl.. the only other alternative is starband internet and i have a feeling it is better.. |
| 22:43.13 | tarzeau | soyuz: and your isp never has outages? and your power neither? |
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| 22:43.32 | tarzeau | zOap: :) |
| 22:43.43 | tarzeau | zOap: when i removed windows, i never had problems anymore |
| 22:44.09 | mae | they cut corners on their bandwidth and make their customers pay. you can only dl like 200 megs and then you get "fap'd" fair access policy.. then you download at 200B/s ... until you are unfap'd 2 hours later. |
| 22:44.11 | zOap | soyuz, yeah, so I don't have a straight answer for you. And if all NT stations have the same problem... it seems fair that its samba.. |
| 22:44.20 | zOap | tarzeau, agreed:D |
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| 22:44.46 | zOap | soyuz, go to #samba and ask there. Maybe they have an answer for it.. |
| 22:44.47 | tarzeau | zOap: maybe reinstalling all nt stations solves the problem? maybe |
| 22:44.54 | zOap | lol:D |
| 22:45.25 | zOap | 43NT stations reinstalled times 2 hours.... calculating.... calculating... no, not worth a try:D lol |
| 22:45.37 | soyuz | zOap well... it's strange to me... I'm going to reboot all hubs and peripherals, JIC. |
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| 22:45.42 | hackers | ok |
| 22:45.52 | paulswm | mae: I had the same situation here (Kissimmee, FL) until December, thought hard about direcway but never got it, then Brighthouse Networks came in December and made 6MBit cable available, no caps. Sorry to hear about your experience, that sucks, it's not like it's cheap. |
| 22:45.54 | hackers | ill bbiab now that i managed to get this all done ..... |
| 22:45.54 | zOap | soyuz, ok, |
| 22:45.55 | soyuz | I just can't believe that it's hardware based... |
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| 22:46.29 | zOap | hehe |
| 22:46.36 | mae | paulswm: hehe . ya i just deal with it, luckily I am going off to college for my upper division studies and i will have a t3 there :D |
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| 22:46.51 | zOap | oh, you guys, you'll have to love such good guys:D |
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| 22:47.30 | nader | hi |
| 22:47.37 | tarzeau | hi honey |
| 22:47.38 | soyuz | zOap I mean, think about it. the server will mount the w98/w2k shares without a problem, it says it sees everyone... what the fark. |
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| 22:47.47 | nader | how can i let my cron execute my report.sh every minut |
| 22:47.53 | Tokaji | Hi, will the new debian installer or it's daily built images "natively" support the Silicon Image 3114 SATA controller used on MANY A64 boards ? (Instead of sata_nv) |
| 22:47.55 | tarzeau | man 5 crontab |
| 22:47.57 | hackers2 | ok |
| 22:48.00 | soyuz | well... I'll be disappearing in an Ethernet mushroom cloud any second now... |
| 22:48.12 | nader | i use this syntax and it's faild 1 * * * * * /root/shaper.sh |
| 22:48.12 | hackers2 | now if i was having problems with nautilus can i also uninstall and reinstall that one too zOap ? |
| 22:48.22 | tarzeau | nader: you want */1 |
| 22:48.29 | hackers2 | heh |
| 22:48.31 | tarzeau | nader: 1 is only 1 minute past every hour |
| 22:48.46 | nader | ok |
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| 22:49.03 | nader | if i want every 5 minut then */5 * * * * * /root/shaper.sh |
| 22:49.07 | nader | right |
| 22:49.10 | tarzeau | nader: yes honey |
| 22:49.12 | zOap | hackers2, well, you could try, but I can't promise anything. It may be some dependencies that's all f$5ed up... |
| 22:49.17 | nader | 10x tarzeau |
| 22:49.20 | tarzeau | !10x |
| 22:49.21 | dpkg | Unless you mean 10 times, please spell it out: "thanks". IRC doesn't charge you by the character, nor is it AOHELL instant messenger. add a space since it's ten times not tentimes |
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| 22:49.45 | hackers2 | gnome gnome-core gnome-desktop-environment gnome-office nautilus |
| 22:49.45 | hackers2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.48 | Tokaji | sata_nv is okay, but it doesn't allow overclocking, not even a single MHz, because it's frequency not fixed 33, for A64 systems sil3114 is a better way for sata support.. |
| 22:49.52 | hackers2 | dam all of those depend on that thing |
| 22:49.53 | hackers2 | oi |
| 22:50.00 | tarzeau | hackers2: yes it sucks |
| 22:50.15 | zOap | hackers2, please use #flood or go to pastebin.com for pastes |
| 22:50.59 | hackers2 | well let me see if uninstalling and reinstalling worked for this thing, ok ill use that one sorry, and the problem doesnt seem to come up till the cache flushes in k3b so bah! running kde now so here we go *bets on another coaster* |
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| 22:51.56 | zOap | hackers2, well... It's just an idea... kill nautilus and switch to a better fm... like emelfm... or mc |
| 22:52.15 | hackers2 | o.O |
| 22:52.26 | hackers2 | i have no problem doing that but how do i do so >.< |
| 22:52.36 | zOap | hackers2, Personally O don't like nautilus at all, |
| 22:52.37 | hackers2 | and what is it that they are? |
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| 22:53.23 | zOap | hackers2, emelfm and midnight commander are file managers like nautilus. Just use one of those for your file managing needs |
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| 22:54.34 | zOap | hackers2, just bare in mind that in emelfm you'll need to let it know what app you want to open when you click on a file... like .mp3 or .jpg... it's very simple. just need to do it once... |
| 22:54.59 | zOap | hackers2, and emelfm is a twopane kinda fm, much better than nautilus |
| 22:55.24 | hackers2 | sounds reasonable and it wont mess with the behind the scenes files right? like the ones that are specific to a app cause only that app opens them hidden like>? |
| 22:55.43 | hackers2 | sudo apt-get install emelfm ? |
| 22:55.47 | zOap | hackers2, emelfm won't mess with anything, it's VERY standalone |
| 22:55.52 | zOap | yes |
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| 22:56.21 | zOap | hackers2, I can promise you, when you'll get used to it, youll never go back:) |
| 22:56.26 | hackers2 | sweet! |
| 22:56.33 | zOap | yeah:) |
| 22:56.42 | soyuz | damn... I think my problem is HERE! |
| 22:56.43 | hackers2 | im just hoping i dont need to uninstall a bunch of stuff to make all this work lol |
| 22:56.59 | hackers2 | ok bbiab |
| 22:57.20 | zOap | hackers2, no no, you dont have to uninstall anything, emelfm have no dependencies other than x. |
| 22:57.28 | zOap | good luck |
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| 22:58.34 | zOap | aah, peace and quiet:) |
| 22:58.41 | silverton | http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/ the root.bin image is b0rked... I'm not sure who the contact, so maybe one of you do the modules.dep file is corrupt or something |
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| 22:59.08 | zOap | silverton, hang on |
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| 22:59.43 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 22:59.54 | zOap | silverton, you are trying to download the 1,44 images for woody? |
| 23:00.07 | ribnitz | Anything special when going from lvm2 to evms (in sarge)? |
| 23:00.20 | silverton | zOap, yes, it's for an old 486, the bf2.4 floppy images are working though |
| 23:00.49 | silverton | though, I'd rather just use the normal images.. |
| 23:01.07 | zOap | silverton, ok, well, we don't have the opportunity to do anything with the files.. you'll have to contact the debian devel team |
| 23:01.34 | silverton | zOap, and where do they hang out? |
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| 23:02.28 | zOap | silverton, they might hang out in here for all I know, but since you didn't get any replies I don't think so. just email them |
| 23:02.38 | silverton | okay |
| 23:02.54 | toresbe | silverton: #debian-devel is the developer channel |
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| 23:03.09 | zOap | there you go, thank you toresbe:) |
| 23:03.16 | silverton | thanks toresbe :) |
| 23:03.40 | zOap | toresbe, is our main channel up yet, or is cato` drewling around |
| 23:03.41 | zOap | ? |
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| 23:04.27 | toresbe | zOap: *shrug* |
| 23:04.36 | toresbe | silverton: 'twas a pleasure |
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| 23:05.29 | paulswm | !downtime |
| 23:05.29 | dpkg | rumour has it, downtime is the time during which a computer system is immune to user input. |
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| 23:05.40 | kullanici | hey |
| 23:05.42 | zOap | whoops |
| 23:05.46 | kullanici | can you help me about iconv please |
| 23:05.54 | kullanici | iconv -s -f utf-8 -t iso-8859-9 0202.sql > 0202x.sql |
| 23:05.55 | tarzeau | kullanici: haha you're so funny |
| 23:06.02 | kullanici | tarzeau :))) |
| 23:06.10 | silverton | They aren't responding to me >.< |
| 23:06.11 | kullanici | i'm using this but.. |
| 23:06.11 | tarzeau | kullanici: you've had this like 8 hours ago, and now you're so far? |
| 23:06.18 | gass | ttp://nosso-sitio.ath.cx/~gass/gdm_theme2.png |
| 23:06.32 | kullanici | tarzeau i'm searching this subject for about 25 hours :) |
| 23:06.43 | tarzeau | kullanici: ouf |
| 23:06.46 | Supaplex | RTFM is coughing up hairballs when attempting to create a new class. http://channels.debian.net/paste/180 Was there something else I was suppose to do after apt-get install rtfm ? (request-tracker3 is installed and working properly) |
| 23:07.11 | kullanici | iconv -s -f utf-8 -t iso-8859-9 0202.sql > 0202x.sql <- i use this but 0202.sql has iso8859-9 characters and utf8 characters together.. |
| 23:07.29 | deadcat | gass: i told you. it dont look good (= |
| 23:07.40 | kullanici | when i try to change encode from utf-8 to iso8859-9, iconv delete iso8859-9 characters from file.. |
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| 23:07.54 | kullanici | i don't want iconv to delete iso8859-9 characters from that file |
| 23:07.56 | kullanici | what can i do |
| 23:08.05 | zOap | I went down toresbe, you said? |
| 23:08.06 | kullanici | please read me lines and help me pls :( |
| 23:08.16 | ribnitz | kullanici: what encoring is -9? - russian? |
| 23:08.20 | gass | deadcat: humm ... i am trying to convence you |
| 23:08.26 | kullanici | ribnitz turkish |
| 23:08.26 | tarzeau | ribnitz: .tr |
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| 23:08.31 | gass | deadcat: it is too empty, i know |
| 23:08.41 | toresbe | zOap: I shrugged :P |
| 23:08.55 | ribnitz | tarzeau: what special char do they have except the ü? |
| 23:08.59 | zOap | toresbe, aah, well. that cato`... |
| 23:09.10 | toresbe | zOap: Crazy gentoo mans. |
| 23:09.16 | tarzeau | ribnitz: i without dot |
| 23:09.22 | tarzeau | ribnitz: g with half a ° on top |
| 23:09.30 | zOap | toresbe, yeah, should not give such a madman op.. |
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| 23:09.32 | kullanici | ribnitz ÝÞÐÜÇÖýðüþçö |
| 23:09.33 | paulswm | heh, toresbe said gentoo |
| 23:09.48 | zOap | lol |
| 23:09.51 | ribnitz | kullanici: quite a few :) |
| 23:09.51 | toresbe | heh, paulswm said gentoo :P |
| 23:09.59 | hackers2 | zOap, do i need to change all the conf files somehow to make it run that? |
| 23:10.05 | hackers2 | shit |
| 23:10.06 | kullanici | pls help me :(( |
| 23:10.12 | TwistedEmotions | Installing win2k on VMWare... talk about self conflict |
| 23:10.13 | hackers2 | still got that god dam error in k3b |
| 23:10.26 | tarzeau | hackers2: why not just use cdrecord? |
| 23:10.29 | hackers2 | fucker cant seem to clear cache or something and gives me an error |
| 23:10.34 | hackers2 | cdrecord? |
| 23:10.35 | zOap | hackers2, conf files? to run emelfm? not just run it, if you want it to be root, just gksu it |
| 23:10.36 | ribnitz | hackers2: xcdroast? |
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| 23:10.58 | tooes | hi |
| 23:11.01 | ribnitz | hackers2: cdrecord is the lowlevel program doing the write. |
| 23:11.19 | tarzeau | hackers2: what do you want to do? |
| 23:11.20 | hackers2 | ok tarzeau how do i use it, and xcdroast? how do i use that? |
| 23:11.22 | zOap | hackers2, oj, it seems that nautilus isn't the only problem you have |
| 23:11.24 | hackers2 | i want to just burn data |
| 23:11.32 | tooes | i have just instaled a sarge and Xfree and he on't start because of no screen detected :( i have lauch Xf86config but still o screen :( |
| 23:11.42 | hackers2 | zOap, yeah soemthing is fuxxored for sure somewhere |
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| 23:11.49 | zOap | hackers2, with nautilus? |
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| 23:11.55 | BleSS | i need help: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-345318-highlight-.html |
| 23:12.03 | zOap | hackers2, yeah, it seems |
| 23:12.08 | hackers2 | i dont know whats wrong anymore |
| 23:12.19 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: wow... it works and its preety fucking quick too for being a Virtual deal... |
| 23:12.32 | hackers2 | i would love to just reinstall everything but i dont know that i want to reinstall all the proggies, but i guess i got no choice |
| 23:12.52 | zOap | hackers2, well, I hate to say this. But try a dist upgrade or something, just to get dependencies in order... |
| 23:12.58 | dirthead | i'm still having nfs problems. I upgraded the client and server to the latest kernel and it still does not work. does anybody have any ideas what else to look at? |
| 23:12.59 | ribnitz | hackers2: its for cd burning? |
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| 23:13.19 | hackers2 | dvd burning and yeah doing all the upgrades and dist- stuff now |
| 23:13.31 | tarzeau | hackers2: www.linuks.mine.nu/cdrecord/ |
| 23:13.32 | tarzeau | hackers2: very easy |
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| 23:13.35 | hackers2 | im tired of burning blanks >.< |
| 23:13.37 | swim | what is it in the debian precompiled kernel that makes it take so long to boot? |
| 23:13.41 | zOap | hackers2, ok, lol |
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| 23:13.46 | kullanici | ah well |
| 23:13.50 | BleSS | i'm developing a tool for configure x, and i need help for get x module in each graphic card: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-345318-highlight-.html |
| 23:13.51 | kullanici | anyone help me please ? |
| 23:14.01 | ribnitz | hackers2: install xcdroast. |
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| 23:14.17 | Azar | swim I guess depends how many modules it is loading |
| 23:14.20 | paulswm | BleSS: you're spamming |
| 23:14.24 | ribnitz | tarzeau: no need to twiddle with cdrecord, is there? |
| 23:14.25 | zOap | swim, well, debian IS a very advanced system, if you have alot of things needed to load, then it will take some time... |
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| 23:14.30 | hackers2 | ok ill install that ribnitz, does it have a gui interface by chance? |
| 23:14.34 | tarzeau | ribnitz: i always use it |
| 23:14.41 | tarzeau | ribnitz: it's no twiddling. it just works |
| 23:14.59 | BleSS | paulswm, no, i'm asking help |
| 23:15.19 | paulswm | I always use cdrecord from the command line, like tarzeau says it just works |
| 23:15.20 | ribnitz | tarzeau: true. but usually I copy cds, so xcdroast is good for that too. And for dvd's, its harder anyways. |
| 23:15.36 | BleSS | paulswm, i need get info. about x module for each graphic card |
| 23:15.38 | tarzeau | ribnitz: i don't have dvd |
| 23:15.44 | tarzeau | ribnitz: copying cd's is as easy. seen my link? |
| 23:15.51 | hackers2 | ok zOap did all the upgrades |
| 23:16.00 | hackers2 | any way to tell if its gonna work before i burn another dvd? |
| 23:16.09 | hackers2 | can i just burn to iso and see if i get same error? |
| 23:16.11 | tooes | no idee why xfree dont see my screen |
| 23:16.13 | paulswm | BleSS: You're aksing people to go to a gentoo link, download and execute code on their machines and send you the results, looks like spamming to me |
| 23:16.44 | zOap | hackers2, no, it really isnt... |
| 23:16.45 | ribnitz | tarzeau: where? |
| 23:17.01 | zOap | hackers2, if there isnt some test program in cdrecord... |
| 23:17.31 | tarzeau | ribnitz: 01:13 < tarzeau> hackers2: www.linuks.mine.nu/cdrecord/ |
| 23:17.31 | hackers2 | ribnitz, its telling me it uses scsi cd devices etc i dont have anything scsi |
| 23:17.32 | hackers2 | tarzeau, i read that its not totally clear from here... |
| 23:17.37 | BleSS | paulswm, that link is a forum, it's the same that it's of gentoo, the end is build a tool for whatever linux flavour |
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| 23:18.05 | zOap | BleSS said gentoo :D |
| 23:18.06 | Azar | BleSS if it would be a Debian forum maybe it would have worked here |
| 23:18.34 | hackers2 | ribnitz, i told it to just make the scsi devices and whatnot even though i dont have any |
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| 23:18.39 | paulswm | BleSS: This is a channel for debian users to help each other out, /join #gentoo and spam there |
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| 23:18.44 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: vmware sucks. |
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| 23:19.03 | paulswm | zOap: Heh |
| 23:19.15 | zOap | paulswm, I hear ya:) |
| 23:19.20 | tarzeau | BleSS: gentoo sucks |
| 23:19.24 | shawarma | Hi! Isn't there a channel for debian developers? |
| 23:19.25 | Azar | Bliss the issue is: Debian is unique not mixing matching with on other distro stuff |
| 23:19.35 | ribnitz | hackers2: using ide-scsi for cd burning is discouraged as of 2.6.x kernel |
| 23:19.37 | zOap | shawarma, #debian-devel |
| 23:19.39 | tarzeau | shawarma: this is not for debian developers, it's for debian users |
| 23:19.43 | paulswm | !qotd77 |
| 23:19.44 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd77 is <bullet> woohoo here goes dist-upgrade.. this seems so fast after doing an emerge world -e in gentoo |
| 23:19.45 | ribnitz | shawarma: debian-devl |
| 23:19.49 | shawarma | zOap: Thank you! |
| 23:19.55 | toresbe | paulswm: heh |
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| 23:20.00 | BleSS | paulswm, i knowed that in the only channel that i was going to have problems is here |
| 23:20.00 | toresbe | !gentoo |
| 23:20.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/, or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385, or rice rice rice rice |
| 23:20.04 | paulswm | :D |
| 23:20.04 | toresbe | is the factoid still there |
| 23:20.06 | toresbe | it is! |
| 23:20.17 | Eclipser | !greenhouse |
| 23:20.18 | dpkg | Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Debian! |
| 23:20.32 | paulswm | !gentoosmite BleSS |
| 23:20.32 | toresbe | teehee |
| 23:20.39 | Eclipser | :D |
| 23:20.39 | silverton | rofl @ gentoobies |
| 23:20.39 | ribnitz | tarzeau: plus you forget I have apes running around. apes want to burn cd. |
| 23:20.43 | tarzeau | toresbe: the bash.org one is hilarious ;) |
| 23:20.45 | BleSS | paulswm, i not developing for gentoo or debian, i build programs for linux |
| 23:20.48 | Azar | :) haha |
| 23:20.54 | tarzeau | ribnitz: well i teached my apes cdrecord |
| 23:20.55 | toresbe | tarzeau: I know, I put tit ther :) |
| 23:20.59 | toresbe | uh, put it there |
| 23:21.01 | tarzeau | ribnitz: it just works(tm) |
| 23:21.02 | zOap | paulswm, hahaha, lol |
| 23:21.10 | paulswm | zOap: :D |
| 23:21.18 | zOap | 0.6% lol |
| 23:21.20 | toresbe | paulswm: You wouldn't believe the in fights in #linux.no |
| 23:21.23 | ribnitz | tarzeau: I know. |
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| 23:21.36 | BleSS | dpkg, but that's my problem if i want compile all |
| 23:21.46 | Azar | :P |
| 23:21.49 | tarzeau | ribnitz: so why do you insist apes can't run cdrecord? |
| 23:21.51 | zOap | toresbe, isnt sindre a gentoobie? |
| 23:21.59 | toresbe | zOap: NO! |
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| 23:22.06 | AK-87 | ugh |
| 23:22.07 | hackers2 | ribnitz, so i fucked up when i told it to go ahead and do the scsi thing? |
| 23:22.09 | AK-87 | hello all |
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| 23:22.14 | ribnitz | tarzeau: most of my apes fear the command line. |
| 23:22.15 | silverton | I want to be a gentoobie... |
| 23:22.19 | zOap | toresbe, then who is? It seems i missed those fights:) |
| 23:22.25 | toresbe | zOap: The stated hardware policy for Ping is "If it boots Debian, we want it" ;) |
| 23:22.26 | AK-87 | could someone help this absolute linux noob with making partitions? |
| 23:22.27 | toresbe | zOap: cato |
| 23:22.43 | toresbe | How DARE he! |
| 23:22.44 | tarzeau | !noob |
| 23:22.44 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 23:22.46 | zOap | toresbe, that#%#$ cato |
| 23:22.50 | Eclipser | hmm |
| 23:22.50 | tarzeau | AK-87: just cfdisk thedisk? |
| 23:22.59 | Eclipser | RC bug amount has increased a bit it seems |
| 23:23.02 | AK-87 | hrm |
| 23:23.04 | AK-87 | yes |
| 23:23.04 | ribnitz | AK-87: how big is your disk, how much memory, whats the intended use? |
| 23:23.06 | tarzeau | ribnitz: send them to me then |
| 23:23.09 | AK-87 | i am in cfdisk |
| 23:23.11 | zOap | toresbe, that's what I'm talking about |
| 23:23.17 | tarzeau | AK-87: what's your problem, honey? |
| 23:23.33 | AK-87 | 40 gig, 128 mb, server |
| 23:23.39 | toresbe | zOap: bastard :P |
| 23:23.52 | AK-87 | how many partitions, and primary or logical? |
| 23:23.55 | toresbe | he must obviously die. |
| 23:24.01 | zOap | !troll cato` |
| 23:24.04 | hackers2 | lol toresbe |
| 23:24.17 | ribnitz | AK-87: dual boot windows? |
| 23:24.19 | silverton | what are "trolls" ? |
| 23:24.21 | AK-87 | no |
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| 23:24.28 | tarzeau | ribnitz: he said server, not toy |
| 23:24.30 | zOap | AK-87, cato is |
| 23:24.38 | dirthead | ok, my nfs is fixed. my /etc/exports file was too complicated |
| 23:24.38 | silverton | define "troll" |
| 23:24.45 | AK-87 | z0ap: ??? |
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| 23:24.52 | dirthead | happy happy joy joy |
| 23:24.55 | zOap | !troll |
| 23:24.55 | dpkg | [troll] a race on some muds;a guy under a bridge: an annoying robot; a port scanner, or somebody faking being clueless to be shown the One Linux Way so he can argue against it for his psychology thesis on linux advocates, or an employee of trolltech, or at http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/27/51233/2979 or http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/troll.html |
| 23:24.58 | AK-87 | zOap |
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| 23:25.13 | tooes | noone can help me about conf xfree86 ? i dpkg-econfigurate all well but no screen :( |
| 23:25.15 | silverton | heh... |
| 23:25.15 | wwallace | hello 2 all |
| 23:25.22 | zOap | there you go |
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| 23:25.26 | silverton | thank you zOap |
| 23:25.31 | zOap | np |
| 23:25.36 | tarzeau | !2 |
| 23:25.36 | dpkg | It's TO, not '2'. This is not l33t3 sp34k nor is this AOL. |
| 23:25.42 | AK-87 | anyway... how much partitions should I create and what size should they be? |
| 23:25.55 | tarzeau | AK-87: one or two |
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| 23:26.02 | silverton | I've got five >.< |
| 23:26.06 | AK-87 | hrm |
| 23:26.11 | AK-87 | 2 gig for the swap? |
| 23:26.12 | ribnitz | AK-87: my "server" has: small primary (ext3) partition for (/), primary partition for swap (2G), primary partition for usr and var, jfs, 2.5G each. |
| 23:26.12 | zOap | aah, I love dpkg, you are my friend |
| 23:26.20 | abrotman | !bub-n-bros-smite tarzeau |
| 23:26.20 | tarzeau | AK-87: maximum |
| 23:26.26 | AK-87 | ok |
| 23:26.28 | tarzeau | abrotman: haha, let's play? |
| 23:26.30 | AK-87 | 2 gig it is |
| 23:26.30 | silverton | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:26.34 | AK-87 | 2 partitions |
| 23:26.39 | abrotman | tarzeau: not right now .. maybe in a bit .. you gonna be around ? |
| 23:26.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: sure |
| 23:26.50 | AK-87 | I should make the biggest bootable? |
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| 23:26.58 | abrotman | tarzeau: yay |
| 23:27.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: would i ever miss http://bub-n-bros.sf.net #bub-n-bros action? |
| 23:27.06 | ribnitz | AK-87: and for the data volumes I use lvm2, they are basically a largeish /home, plus project specific partitions, all jfs |
| 23:27.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: i mean my dragon is gonna kick your dragons ass! |
| 23:27.19 | paulswm | AK-87: You don't need boot as a separate partition |
| 23:27.28 | AK-87 | eh? |
| 23:27.35 | paulswm | AK-87: You don't need /boot as a separate partition |
| 23:27.56 | silverton | paulswm, I think you're trying to say that to me :) |
| 23:27.57 | ribnitz | AK-87: you dont need /boot on a part of its own. |
| 23:27.59 | hackers2 | ribnitz, prodvd support???? wazzat a package again? |
| 23:28.04 | AK-87 | ok |
| 23:28.06 | paulswm | AK-87: sorry |
| 23:28.18 | ribnitz | hackers2: cdrecord-prodvd (in marillat) |
| 23:28.21 | AK-87 | lol |
| 23:28.25 | paulswm | silverton: sorry, I'll try to keep up :) |
| 23:28.29 | AK-87 | i should apologize :P |
| 23:28.32 | silverton | paulswm, it might help a little :) |
| 23:28.37 | tarzeau | hackers2: beware this is not official debian stuff |
| 23:28.47 | hackers2 | now its telling me bah on atapi devices bad burning etc |
| 23:28.48 | hackers2 | look |
| 23:28.52 | hackers2 | i just wanna make a dam dvd |
| 23:28.57 | zOap | paulswm, dude, you're glowing, take a break:) |
| 23:29.02 | hackers2 | i need to burn 120gb of data like yesterday |
| 23:29.27 | ribnitz | AK-87: if you use lvm2, you can dynamically grow /shring partitions, without reboot.. |
| 23:29.27 | AK-87 | eh |
| 23:29.27 | AK-87 | ???? |
| 23:29.27 | toresbe | zOap: check #linux.no :P |
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| 23:29.30 | TwistedEmotions | AK-87: Akash? |
| 23:29.30 | zOap | toresbe, ok |
| 23:29.32 | tarzeau | hi quitte |
| 23:29.37 | quitte | hi |
| 23:29.38 | silverton | AK-87, he meant, you can change parition sizes on the fly |
| 23:29.42 | AK-87 | oh |
| 23:29.43 | silverton | *partition |
| 23:29.45 | ribnitz | hackers2: 120G to dvd is like masochism. |
| 23:29.47 | zOap | toresbe, still +m |
| 23:29.48 | AK-87 | thats cool :) |
| 23:29.51 | tarzeau | quitte: you missed the sarge release |
| 23:29.53 | paulswm | zOap: Off in a few, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban is on SHowtime HDTV in 30 mins :) |
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| 23:30.03 | zOap | paulswm, wheeee!! |
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| 23:30.06 | Xenguy | paulswm: excellent :-) |
| 23:30.06 | toresbe | zOap: do you have some join/part ignoere or something? |
| 23:30.07 | silverton | damn, we don't have showtime |
| 23:30.10 | abrotman | tarzeau: heh |
| 23:30.12 | quitte | tarzeau: oh! been sleeping. when was it exactly? |
| 23:30.14 | tarzeau | abrotman: :) |
| 23:30.17 | zOap | toresbe, no, hang on |
| 23:30.18 | AK-87 | should both partitions be a primary partition? |
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| 23:30.24 | silverton | AK-87, yes |
| 23:30.25 | hackers2 | ribnitz, i burn that much every few days |
| 23:30.29 | AK-87 | ok |
| 23:30.32 | AK-87 | thanks :) |
| 23:30.33 | tarzeau | quitte: 0:07 UTC |
| 23:30.36 | paulswm | zOap: And 57" HTDV with 6.1 surround here :) |
| 23:30.39 | ribnitz | AK-87: primary/logical does not matter. |
| 23:30.40 | silverton | but, if you are only going to have two partitions, / and swap don't bother doing lvm2 |
| 23:30.46 | zOap | toresbe, still +m for me... |
| 23:30.54 | hackers2 | you dont even wanna know how long 200 dvd's last me |
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| 23:31.07 | toresbe | zOap: yeah, it's still +m |
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| 23:31.22 | AK-87 | ok |
| 23:31.22 | quitte | someones gotta chjange the topic then |
| 23:31.22 | zOap | paulswm, neet, i love sound, and is in fact a soundengineer:) oh, *bragging*:D |
| 23:31.26 | ribnitz | AK-87: except that you only have 4 primary, and if you use liogicals, theres one primary gone for the logicals |
| 23:31.27 | tarzeau | quitte: j/k ;) |
| 23:31.31 | paulswm | zOap: Cool! |
| 23:31.34 | tarzeau | quitte: wasn't it planned for tomorrow |
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| 23:31.41 | zOap | paulswm, have a nice one:) |
| 23:31.49 | tarzeau | quitte: why do you wake up when the night just begins? |
| 23:31.58 | paulswm | zOap: You too, stay safe and try not to break anything :P |
| 23:32.02 | ribnitz | hackers2: I am considering an lto or somesuch (to get like 200-300gb out ot disk. |
| 23:32.02 | quitte | tarzeau: because i slept all day. |
| 23:32.12 | tarzeau | quitte: hopefully not alone, at least |
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| 23:32.14 | silverton | for me, /boot == 100MB primary, / == 2GB primary, swap == 1152MB primary, /usr == 15GB logical, and /home == the rest logical |
| 23:32.14 | monolith- | im having trouble isntalling mysql |
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| 23:32.21 | toresbe | zOap: check msg :P |
| 23:32.22 | zOap | paulswm, yeah, thanks |
| 23:32.25 | hackers2 | ribnitz, lto? whats that? |
| 23:32.27 | quitte | tarzeau: actually yes :( |
| 23:32.38 | hackers2 | i was looking into tape drives, but dvd is still cheaper |
| 23:32.38 | AK-87 | ok |
| 23:32.43 | zOap | toresbe, lol :D |
| 23:32.44 | ribnitz | hackers2: "tape ohlding 300gb uncompressed". |
| 23:32.47 | AK-87 | its now writing the partition |
| 23:32.48 | hackers2 | ill be making 4 or 5 disk arrays soon |
| 23:33.02 | silverton | AK-87, what does your partition table look like? |
| 23:33.02 | tarzeau | hackers2: why not another disk? |
| 23:33.04 | hackers2 | with hdd's when they go down just a little more |
| 23:33.22 | quitte | tarzeau: been building packages all the nights before. my sleeping rythm is totally fscked |
| 23:33.23 | hackers2 | tarzeau, i would need 600+GB storage more a month man |
| 23:33.24 | zOap | toresbe, he probably forgot, that %#$ |
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| 23:33.30 | hackers2 | it gets rather expensive fast |
| 23:33.32 | AK-87 | 1 38GB partition and 1 2GB partition |
| 23:33.41 | ribnitz | hackers2: you want to read the linux software raid, the lvm raid, and you might consider evms. |
| 23:33.41 | tarzeau | quitte: you make packages of your own? or just rebuilding ready packages? |
| 23:34.01 | quitte | tarzeau: rebuilding mostly. |
| 23:34.01 | ribnitz | hackers2: true. |
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| 23:34.11 | hackers2 | yeah ill be raiding the arrays, if i can make 5 hdd arrays then ill raid 5 it |
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| 23:34.38 | quitte | tarzeau: i hope to get the sh3 port in sync with etch - and then will start work more on the emdebian approach. |
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| 23:34.49 | tarzeau | quitte: so cool! |
| 23:34.49 | zOap | oooh, it's my turn. please guys, let me hack him, lol |
| 23:35.02 | hackers2 | what was the command to purge again? |
| 23:35.07 | tarzeau | hackers2: --purge |
| 23:35.08 | hackers2 | apt-get purge package? |
| 23:35.10 | hackers2 | ahh |
| 23:35.17 | paulswm | Hah |
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| 23:35.29 | hackers2 | apt-get --purge uninstall package or apt-get --purge package |
| 23:35.30 | zOap | hackers2, see how neet it is? I LOVE apt |
| 23:35.34 | med_debian | ^_^ |
| 23:35.36 | hackers2 | yeah apt is the shit |
| 23:35.44 | hackers2 | way the fuck better than anything gates ever did |
| 23:35.48 | tarzeau | hackers2: also try moo |
| 23:35.53 | ribnitz | AK-87: 1x500mb (/), 2x2.5G (/usr, /var), 1x2G (swap), /home takes rest |
| 23:36.00 | paulswm | !moo |
| 23:36.01 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939 |
| 23:36.14 | paulswm | OK, gone... |
| 23:36.25 | hackers2 | sudo apt-get --purge uninstall xcdroast |||| E: Invalid operation uninstall |
| 23:36.38 | zOap | paulswm, lol:D |
| 23:36.41 | tarzeau | hackers2: remove |
| 23:36.45 | hackers2 | oi |
| 23:36.46 | hackers2 | thanx |
| 23:36.50 | ribnitz | hackers2: "remove" instead of uninstall |
| 23:36.53 | tarzeau | hackers2: welcome honey |
| 23:37.20 | hackers2 | yeah you would think i would remember as i JUST used it... sighs |
| 23:37.22 | tarzeau | you're tickling me, hackers2 |
| 23:37.32 | hackers2 | 'tis the intention tarzeau |
| 23:37.41 | zOap | aah, a nice spanking, you guys...:) |
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| 23:37.55 | hackers2 | ok now to reinstall xcdroast and not do scsi |
| 23:38.09 | Azar | ok since I suffer from Xfobia (extremely shy when it comes to X) : I use xdm with openbox on top how do I manage to increase the text in open consoles? any package out there? |
| 23:38.09 | tarzeau | hackers2: what says uname -a |
| 23:38.32 | hackers2 | oh im on kernal 2.6 soemthing gimme sec i think its .10 |
| 23:38.41 | tarzeau | hackers2: and what says cat /proc/cmdline |
| 23:38.43 | Azar | I forgot I used to have something that on right click would give me a list of font sizes.. |
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| 23:38.56 | ribnitz | Azar: xterm? |
| 23:39.03 | hackers2 | Linux compname 2.6.10-1-k7 #1 Fri Mar 11 03:13:32 EST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:39.04 | Azar | ribnitz, yes |
| 23:39.05 | quitte | what is the proper way to let a package add a path to /etc/ld.so.conf when it is installed? |
| 23:39.06 | tarzeau | Azar: ctrl |
| 23:39.24 | Azar | thanks tarzeau, checking now |
| 23:39.47 | hackers2 | root=/dev/hdc1 ro |
| 23:39.59 | Azar | super, thanks :) |
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| 23:40.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: server's started |
| 23:40.55 | hackers2 | interesting, it seems that the dam thing automatically remembered a few things even after the purge |
| 23:41.20 | quitte | hackers2: user settings in $home |
| 23:41.32 | mhall | Hey, I'm having some serious issues with KDE from Sid freezing on start for non-root and kicker locking up and not opening the K menu for non-root. Any ideas? |
| 23:41.52 | hackers2 | its still yammering about atapi devices // scsi emulation |
| 23:41.56 | hackers2 | fuck this |
| 23:42.01 | mhall | Usually it does eventually start after like 5 or 6 minutes, must be some kind of timeout problem. |
| 23:42.03 | hackers2 | i got to get the original shit working dammit |
| 23:42.05 | jason_ | mhall, you might want to ask in #debian-kde |
| 23:42.15 | mhall | hackers2: Er, yeah, don't use SCSI emulation any more. |
| 23:42.20 | abrotman | tarzeau: isn't it always ? |
| 23:42.30 | hackers2 | im not using it mhall |
| 23:42.34 | mhall | hackers2: Try cdrecord -v -v driveropts=burnfree dev=/dev/hd<foo> |
| 23:42.36 | hackers2 | ok lets see here |
| 23:42.46 | mhall | hackers2: or better yet put -raw96r as well |
| 23:42.48 | tarzeau | abrotman: nop, only when i play |
| 23:42.50 | hackers2 | waaaa |
| 23:42.52 | abrotman | tarzeau: oh ok |
| 23:42.55 | hackers2 | i dont even know what that does |
| 23:42.58 | hackers2 | let me try it |
| 23:43.12 | zOap | http://testbooth.zoapmedia.net/images/zoaplappy2.jpg |
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| 23:43.47 | mhall | jason_: i'll try it |
| 23:43.48 | hackers2 | cdrecord -v -v -raw96r driveropts=burnfree dev=/dev/hd<foo> like that? |
| 23:44.16 | hackers2 | syntax error near unexpected token |
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| 23:44.22 | hackers2 | 'newline' |
| 23:44.23 | quitte | how can i add a config file in /etc/ with my own package? |
| 23:44.39 | pekkele | zOap what desktop u re using ?? |
| 23:44.42 | timo | zOap, ion? |
| 23:44.46 | zOap | pekkele, ion3 |
| 23:44.48 | hackers2 | ok |
| 23:44.49 | hackers2 | i think |
| 23:44.57 | hackers2 | i got to reinstall linux to make everything work |
| 23:45.15 | zOap | nice eh? I love ion:) |
| 23:45.18 | hackers2 | zoap what was that fs manager again? and how do i make that default from the start |
| 23:45.33 | hackers2 | and what iso should i install on a amd atholon xp 2000+ |
| 23:45.37 | zOap | hackers2, emelfm |
| 23:45.47 | pekkele | zOap: look nice :) |
| 23:45.59 | zOap | default I dunno. I just use i |
| 23:46.04 | hackers2 | yeah i installed that now and its in but i dont know that its running, but when i reinstall how do i tell it to use that one instead of nautilus |
| 23:46.08 | hackers2 | unless |
| 23:46.21 | hackers2 | is there a way to undo every upgrade over sya the last 5 days? |
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| 23:46.42 | quitte | hackers2 if you made backups |
| 23:46.48 | hackers2 | heh |
| 23:46.49 | hackers2 | no then |
| 23:46.53 | hackers2 | ok~! |
| 23:47.02 | hackers2 | so i get to install this bugger on my own it seems i guess |
| 23:47.06 | zOap | hackers2, no, I don't think so. How to make it default in gnome i don't know, maybe in control panel somewhere... I just opens it and uses it for all my fm needs |
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| 23:47.26 | hackers2 | where should i start? i386 iso right? |
| 23:47.53 | hackers2 | its not the sixth so the new sarge isnt out yet, but what can i use that i can just upgrade to that? |
| 23:47.55 | zOap | hackers2, yes. |
| 23:47.58 | hackers2 | shit |
| 23:48.01 | hackers2 | i just realized |
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| 23:48.12 | hackers2 | i dont think i can even burn a disk to do an install with |
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| 23:48.19 | zOap | hackers2, you can download sarge from debian.org |
| 23:48.32 | zOap | hackers2, whoops:) |
| 23:48.34 | hackers2 | can i start the install and do what is that a chroot? |
| 23:48.44 | pwned | I am looking for a debian package for gdl (or tdl?) http://gnudatalanguage.sourceforge.net/ |
| 23:48.56 | hackers2 | where i install a new os and just tell system that thats really the new root etc? |
| 23:49.04 | zOap | hackers2, eh, I didnt get that one |
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| 23:49.15 | hackers2 | well |
| 23:49.15 | hackers2 | either |
| 23:49.16 | pwned | I could find nothing in the testing or unstable mirrors. |
| 23:49.22 | hackers2 | i got to install windows |
| 23:49.31 | hackers2 | ruin everything on disk |
| 23:49.35 | hackers2 | steal nero |
| 23:49.40 | hackers2 | burn an iso |
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| 23:49.43 | hackers2 | and go fromt here |
| 23:50.05 | hackers2 | or i can try to dl iso and install without burning a disk somehow |
| 23:50.06 | zOap | yeah, well, you need to burn a iso... or do a network install.. but that's more complicated... |
| 23:50.06 | Supaplex | steal nero? wtf, they have a trial version *g* either that or alochol 120 |
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| 23:50.44 | hackers2 | didnt know there was a trial |
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| 23:51.26 | mhall | trial of what |
| 23:51.26 | Supaplex | thats cause you decided to steal it first :-X |
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| 23:51.26 | mhall | steal what |
| 23:51.26 | Supaplex | nero |
| 23:51.26 | zOap | hackers2, be patient, all good comes to the one who waits:) or something:) |
| 23:51.26 | Azar | steal what? bwahahahahaha |
| 23:51.27 | hackers2 | zOap, if i could i would |
| 23:51.34 | hackers2 | but hey i got to get this burned |
| 23:52.11 | zOap | good luck hackers2 :) |
| 23:52.11 | hackers2 | cause i got a shitload more tomorrow |
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| 23:52.12 | Azar | hackers has a gentoonian profile |
| 23:52.12 | hackers2 | ok: what else is there to use to burn dvds other than xcdroast and k3b |
| 23:52.31 | zOap | yeah, and a sunday.. |
| 23:52.32 | tarzeau | abrotman: you joining or not? |
| 23:52.32 | mhall | hackers2: cdrecord-prodvd |
| 23:52.32 | abrotman | tarzeau: i should eat before you sheep me |
| 23:52.36 | mhall | hackers2: i burnt a data disc with it the other day and it worked |
| 23:52.45 | mhall | hackers2: was even bootable |
| 23:53.03 | hackers2 | huh |
| 23:53.04 | hackers2 | ok let me try to apt-install that |
| 23:53.04 | Supaplex | you could try cdrecord for cygwin, if it's still around somewhere. |
| 23:53.04 | mhall | you can't |
| 23:53.14 | mhall | it's payware with a free key for noncommercial use |
| 23:53.15 | oigres | hackers2: growisofs, dvdrecord |
| 23:53.29 | mhall | dvdrecord did not work for me |
| 23:53.31 | mhall | but try it first since it's freer |
| 23:53.37 | oigres | mhall: try growisofs instead! |
| 23:53.46 | mhall | oigres: it can burn? |
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| 23:53.53 | med_debian | anyone know which is the lastest build of KDE compatable with debian? |
| 23:53.54 | mhall | oigres: i figured it was an image tweaking utility |
| 23:53.54 | dfdfdfdf | hey hey |
| 23:54.06 | benjamindees | yes growisofs can burn |
| 23:54.16 | hackers2 | dvdrecord is replaced with dvdrtools ;) |
| 23:54.39 | mhall | hackers2: but oddly the binary is still named dvdrecord |
| 23:54.45 | mhall | it's too bad schily went non-free on us |
| 23:54.52 | mhall | he makes such good stuff |
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| 23:55.24 | tarzeau | med_debian: no |
| 23:55.29 | hackers2 | Get:1 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/non-free dvdrtools 0.2.1-1 [132kB] <<-=-=- thats what its called now |
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| 23:55.41 | mhall | hackers2: i know that's the package it's in |
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| 23:55.49 | mhall | hackers2: i dled it yesterday and got the same message |
| 23:55.51 | hackers2 | whats with the non free thing, ahh i c |
| 23:55.58 | hackers2 | but what is non free anyway |
| 23:56.03 | hackers2 | and why do i get it free? |
| 23:56.08 | Supaplex | there's always growweedfs right? |
| 23:56.13 | hackers2 | o.O |
| 23:56.15 | mhall | hackers2: cdrecord-prodvd is non-free as in closed source |
| 23:56.20 | hackers2 | <3 that |
| 23:56.20 | ribnitz | hackers2: free as in beer vs. free as in freedom. |
| 23:56.20 | hackers2 | oic |
| 23:56.21 | hackers2 | that sux |
| 23:56.32 | Silicon | freedom isn't free |
| 23:56.39 | zOap | hackers2, it means,that by us law it's not free.. you can still use it outside us for free... |
| 23:56.46 | hackers2 | hellos Silicon |
| 23:56.48 | Gnea | neither is your mom |
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| 23:56.53 | Silicon | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 23:56.55 | Supaplex | but she's cheap! |
| 23:57.00 | Gnea | :) |
| 23:57.01 | hackers2 | how ya been? |
| 23:57.06 | benjamindees | zOap, umm, no |
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| 23:57.26 | mhall | hackers2: but free as in beer, you can use it for free for non commercial purposes |
| 23:57.26 | mhall | hackers2: like pirating things |
| 23:57.26 | zOap | benjamindees, oh, no? |
| 23:57.35 | benjamindees | zOap, perhaps you're thinking of non-US |
| 23:57.38 | zOap | yes I did.. silly me:) |
| 23:57.44 | hackers2 | mhall_, sounds good |
| 23:57.56 | mhall_ | hackers2: figured it would |
| 23:57.59 | ribnitz | mhall_: that'd be something interesting ot defen in court.. |
| 23:58.04 | hackers2 | hmm |
| 23:58.09 | hackers2 | lets see if this shit works now |
| 23:58.10 | Gnea | ;) |
| 23:58.16 | mhall_ | ribnitz: i'm not saying the piracy is legal |
| 23:58.29 | Gnea | just pay for it and be done with it |
| 23:58.31 | mhall_ | ribnitz: i'm saying the license on cdrecord-prodvd does not restrict it from being used for that purpose |
| 23:58.36 | Azar | hahaha oh sorry: <a_gentoobie> HOLY COW I'M TOTALLY GOING SO FAST OH F*** |
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| 23:58.55 | ribnitz | hackers2: the only other option there is is growisofs. |
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| 23:59.19 | hackers2 | im pretty sure i got that in there, i mean i did for a bit |
| 23:59.22 | *** part/#debian billguedes (~billguede@200-206-150-247.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 23:59.27 | *** join/#debian vsquared (~michael@ip68-14-184-47.pn.at.cox.net) |
| 23:59.36 | ribnitz | hackers2: and I also found that windows is able ot burn at 8x, where linux only uses 3x |
| 23:59.42 | jasoncohen | what do i need to install to enable spellchecking for evolution? |
| 23:59.51 | MasterChief | Can someone tell me a if there is a way to upgrade a user account to have root privlages |
| 23:59.57 | mhall_ | MasterChief: yes and no |
