| 00:00.05 | ska-fan | I.e. find out whether a service is running? |
| 00:00.08 | bhearsum | what packages do i need when using a PPPoE connection? |
| 00:00.10 | LeoNerd | Are there likely to be any improvements to the config update system at all..? The part that asks me if I want to throw away my local changes, or else lose the updates, whenever I upgrade a package...? |
| 00:00.13 | resiak | ska-fan: ps? |
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| 00:00.25 | pureone | ps aux | grep process |
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| 00:00.39 | EvilSporkMan | directhex: erm. is it recommended to avoid firefox use for this bug? |
| 00:00.47 | Anthro | [OT] Anyone know what OOA&D stands for? I assume the OO part means "object oriented" but I'm not sure of the A&D part. |
| 00:00.59 | Wyzard | Anthro: analysis & design |
| 00:00.59 | directhex | EvilSporkMan, i expect so. try galleon or epiphany |
| 00:01.06 | ska-fan | so there is no such thing as /etc/init.d/foo status, like in fedora? |
| 00:01.18 | EvilSporkMan | directhex: how about konqueror? |
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| 00:01.34 | bhearsum | ska-fan: no status action, no |
| 00:01.35 | tode | when I do an "apt-get source ..." where does the source get put? |
| 00:01.42 | _morbid_ | does sarge has the openswan package? |
| 00:01.44 | Wyzard | tode: current directory |
| 00:01.51 | Anthro | Wyzard: Ah, that makes sense. Thank you. |
| 00:01.53 | bhearsum | tode: /usr/src i believe |
| 00:01.53 | EvilSporkMan | directhex: on second thought, i have plenty of gnome installed anyway due to gaim |
| 00:01.56 | _morbid_ | the openswan's wiki says it has the debian page says it does not have |
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| 00:02.05 | Wyzard | tode: Source packages don't actually get installed to the system like binary packages do |
| 00:02.07 | tode | Wyzard: Thanks. sure enough there it is. |
| 00:02.19 | bhearsum | or not |
| 00:02.38 | ska-fan | thanks |
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| 00:02.51 | Wyzard | tode: It creates several files (orig.tar.gz, patch, .dsc, and the unpacked directory) so I usually run it in an empty directory |
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| 00:03.32 | EvilSporkMan | directhex: galeon and epiphany bring in mozilla-browser - won't they be subject to the same issues? |
| 00:03.52 | cafuego | bhearsum: `pwd` actually. |
| 00:03.57 | directhex | EvilSporkMan, last time there was a FF vuln they weren't. only one way to know i supose |
| 00:04.00 | bhearsum | cafuego: it seems so |
| 00:04.13 | bhearsum | i thought /usr/src because that is where kernel source goes |
| 00:04.13 | bhearsum | s |
| 00:04.20 | resiak | directhex, EvilSporkMan: Looks like this affects Gecko, not Firefox specifically. |
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| 00:04.33 | EvilSporkMan | resiak: maybe i can just disable javascript? |
| 00:04.56 | resiak | EvilSporkMan: That might work. |
| 00:04.56 | _joey | is anyone using commercial ati driver? |
| 00:05.03 | resiak | !tell _joey -about ati driver |
| 00:05.06 | EvilSporkMan | resiak: well, i now fail the vulnerability test |
| 00:05.06 | resiak | !tell _joey -about ati drivers |
| 00:05.08 | tode | Wyzard: does it automagically apply the patch? |
| 00:05.13 | resiak | EvilSporkMan: Well, there you go. |
| 00:05.21 | EvilSporkMan | resiak: yep, good enough for me =) |
| 00:05.26 | Wyzard | tode: yes |
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| 00:06.13 | _joey | I am running sarge and flkrx driver. There's update for xfree86 and it fails because libGL.so is already included in the driver |
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| 00:06.43 | _joey | I can't update xfree86 package. should I deinstall the driver first? |
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| 00:08.32 | astronut | Did the DWN not get posted properly? |
| 00:08.45 | dvs | astronut: I got it |
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| 00:09.16 | astronut | dvs: as did i, i meant the HTML version on the web |
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| 00:10.11 | blahdeblah | Hi all, where can i find a list of the packages moving from sid into sarge? |
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| 00:11.38 | carrett | dondelelcaro: could you possibly make dpkg not hate me. i'm sorry for whatever harm my stupidity has done. i'm not as bad as i once was |
| 00:12.01 | dvs | dpkg hates everybody |
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| 00:12.29 | carrett | dvs: no, dpkg won't talk to me period |
| 00:12.29 | stew | !hate carrett |
| 00:12.42 | carrett | dpkg: hi |
| 00:12.44 | carrett | see/ |
| 00:12.44 | astronut | ag |
| 00:12.45 | astronut | ah* |
| 00:12.45 | carrett | ? |
| 00:12.45 | astronut | This also means that this issue |
| 00:12.45 | astronut | cannot be read on the web when it is distributed via mail. |
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| 00:13.07 | dvs | !hello |
| 00:13.08 | dpkg | Hi, dvs! |
| 00:13.17 | dvs | carrett: I guess you're right. |
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| 00:14.10 | random0ne | greetings. can anyone point me to a multi-host ping program. i want updated status like mtr does. i would like to monitor ping to multiple hosts while gaming. |
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| 00:14.29 | random0ne | fping doesn't quite do it. i want numbers, which poing doesn't provide |
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| 00:15.31 | kurumin | oi |
| 00:15.42 | kurumin | hello |
| 00:15.49 | directhex | !kikismite random0ne |
| 00:15.55 | brlancer | a 3c59x card in Woody cannot see hosts which are on the local subnet but not on its switch; arp who-has requests go out but never reach the destination host |
| 00:16.05 | directhex | !listkeys poing |
| 00:16.07 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'poing' by key (1): poing. |
| 00:16.11 | directhex | !poing |
| 00:16.11 | dpkg | directhex: wobble? |
| 00:16.17 | directhex | XD |
| 00:16.23 | brlancer | it's on a cheap linksys switch, nothing that should require any config - all other hosts are fine |
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| 00:16.56 | kurumin | oi tem alguem que escreve em portugues |
| 00:17.12 | directhex | !portugese |
| 00:17.13 | dpkg | Por favor, fale em ingles quando estiver no #Debian, assim todos poderão entender. Se você quiser usar um outro idioma, entre em #debian-rs. Para ser ajudado em portugues, use o canal #Debian-BR |
| 00:17.38 | kurumin | legal |
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| 00:18.54 | milwatts | hey ppl |
| 00:19.09 | milwatts | have sarge and my ALT GR doesn't work |
| 00:20.25 | LeoNerd | Console or X? |
| 00:20.32 | LeoNerd | console ==> check console keymappings |
| 00:20.40 | LeoNerd | X ==> check xkbd settings |
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| 00:21.04 | LeoNerd | And define "doesn't work". |
| 00:22.07 | milwatts | LeoNerd, to make the AT symbol, and all 2nd symbol of 7, 8, 9, 0 keys |
| 00:22.27 | CyberShadow | say, what channel should I go to if I need help on a programming question for linux? |
| 00:22.27 | milwatts | LeoNerd, in console and X |
| 00:22.38 | stew | CyberShadow: in what language? |
| 00:22.39 | dvs | CyberShadow: What language? |
| 00:22.44 | LeoNerd | CyberShadow: I'd suggest a channel for that language in question... |
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| 00:23.03 | carrett | anyone wanna help me? |
| 00:23.04 | carrett | http://tsn.dk/p/?id=3630 |
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| 00:23.17 | carrett | nobody in #bash has an answer... |
| 00:23.20 | CyberShadow | it doesn't matter... it's actually pascal but it's the same thing (I can call all the C++ libc APIs) |
| 00:23.22 | LeoNerd | milwatts: What keyboard layout are you using..? I know on my UK layout I only need shift to type @ |
| 00:23.33 | LeoNerd | Ditto for &*() |
| 00:23.33 | dvs | Pascal? |
| 00:23.36 | milwatts | LeoNerd, Potugal |
| 00:23.40 | milwatts | *portugal |
| 00:23.41 | CyberShadow | make that Free Pascal |
| 00:23.48 | LeoNerd | Ahh.. I see.. You've got the keyboard map set correctly I hope..? |
| 00:23.56 | milwatts | yes, all to PT |
| 00:24.05 | CyberShadow | Free Pascal isn't all that helpless nowadays :) |
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| 00:24.20 | T_T | quien habla español y sabe de bittorrent==??? |
| 00:24.26 | dvs | speak about university life... |
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| 00:24.38 | MobyTurbo | !spanish |
| 00:24.39 | CyberShadow | the question: "anybody knows how can I write pseudo-graphics chars to the terminal? I need to enable raw mode, right? or where should I ask this?" |
| 00:24.39 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:24.53 | T_T | ok |
| 00:24.58 | humbolt | what are the best packages for SPAM filtering on the mailserver side in Debain? |
| 00:24.59 | T_T | thanks |
| 00:25.11 | MobyTurbo | np |
| 00:25.21 | milwatts | LeoNerd, what can be? |
| 00:25.21 | T_T | I`m speak in english, too |
| 00:25.23 | CompBrain | Does anyone know of the bug where old sarge netinst CD's fail on libgnutls10? |
| 00:25.35 | humbolt | And what can I use for Virus filtering?? |
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| 00:25.49 | caphuso | CompBrain: use an up-to-date version of the netinst |
| 00:25.51 | directhex | a spoon |
| 00:26.03 | stew | carrett: find . -name \*.mp3 -print0 | xargs -0 -n1 ~/bin/id3 |
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| 00:26.27 | LeoNerd | milwatts: I don't know that one... I don't know how to set up a Portugese system... :/ |
| 00:26.50 | T_T | I`m from argentina |
| 00:26.51 | milwatts | LeoNerd, ok man :) thx anyway |
| 00:27.04 | _morbid_ | milwatts: try #debian-br |
| 00:27.07 | stew | carrett: or maybe the command you tried before with "{}" in stead of {} |
| 00:27.09 | p8m | I'm from America |
| 00:27.11 | bsims | where should I set the xprint default printer env var? |
| 00:27.14 | DarknessX | hi -- I just ran a dist-upgrade [my normal practice] and it spit out this huge exim4-config file, and now it appears to be frozen there (the terminal isn't frozen, but dpkg isn't doing anything). Any ideas? The last line is "end auth/30_exim4-config_examples" |
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| 00:28.04 | T_T | p8m america latina, hanglosajona?? |
| 00:28.05 | CompBrain | caphuso: Heh, its tricky to locate them, but i did find that out. I was suprised that i didnt find much on google |
| 00:28.10 | CompBrain | so i thought id throw it out here |
| 00:28.10 | carrett | stew: i'm still getting the same errors |
| 00:28.13 | zodiaq | god damn... i broke my sources.list when i tried to swith to unstable >_< |
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| 00:28.26 | random0ne | Greetings. Can anyone point me to a multi-host ping program (like fping or poing). I am looking for something that displays ping statistics like mtr, but without a traceroute. Thank you. |
| 00:28.28 | MobyTurbo | zodiaq: apt-setup |
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| 00:28.40 | zodiaq | MobyTurbo: thanks :) |
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| 00:29.04 | MobyTurbo | zodiaq: np |
| 00:29.37 | zodiaq | MobyTurbo: oh, another thing... how do i swith to the unstable tree without wreaking havoc? ;) |
| 00:29.46 | caphuso | zodiaq: you don't |
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| 00:30.16 | zodiaq | hmm... but it seems i dont have access to the packages i need to compile x.org in the stable tree |
| 00:30.27 | MobyTurbo | zodiaq: unless you know what you're doing and are willing to work with breakage, you need sarge. |
| 00:30.40 | MobyTurbo | zodiaq: x.org is not in *any* Debian branch |
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| 00:31.16 | MobyTurbo | zodiaq: and if you're thinking of compiling X which so many packages depend on instead of getting it from a repository you're crazy. |
| 00:31.21 | zodiaq | yeah i know but i found a howto wich covered the x.org on debian issue |
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| 00:31.51 | trentbuck | zodiaq: The easiest way to get xorg on Debian is to add an Ubuntu repository to your sources.list. |
| 00:31.58 | trentbuck | But xorg isn't worth it. |
| 00:32.04 | trentbuck | xorg sucks |
| 00:32.08 | zodiaq | oke |
| 00:32.13 | WiFiTux | stew, what does that do? |
| 00:32.15 | p8m | Why does xorg suck? |
| 00:32.19 | zodiaq | well then ill just stick with the old one :) |
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| 00:32.24 | zodiaq | thanks for the help |
| 00:32.25 | xSAPPYx | i hosed a box bad trying to use a ubuntu repository to get xorg running, be careful with that one |
| 00:32.32 | trentbuck | p8m: it kept hanging my unstable box. |
| 00:32.38 | p8m | ah :) |
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| 00:32.44 | MobyTurbo | zodiaq: if you're on a desktop though you probably do want to upgrade from stable to sarge.... |
| 00:33.23 | sparr_ | what software is there for sending files to a pocketpc from linux? |
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| 00:34.39 | zodiaq | MobyTurbo: yeah it is a desktop. what should i do to upgrade to sarge? |
| 00:35.01 | trentbuck | zodiaq: woody is very old, but very stable |
| 00:35.06 | dvs | !tell zodiaq about woody->sarge |
| 00:35.11 | MobyTurbo | !tell zodiaq woody->sarge |
| 00:35.21 | MobyTurbo | dvs: GMTA |
| 00:35.27 | trentbuck | !tell trentbuck about woody->sarge |
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| 00:35.31 | dvs | ??? |
| 00:35.33 | p8m | Is there a place that lists all of the dpkg triggers? |
| 00:35.46 | calin | !keys |
| 00:35.50 | chealer | p8m: /msg dpkg help |
| 00:35.51 | DarknessX | p8m: "man dpkg" |
| 00:35.56 | calin | listkeys? |
| 00:35.59 | DarknessX | oh, the bot. Duh |
| 00:36.29 | p8m | thanks |
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| 00:40.33 | poser | If I get the kernel-source, is that the equivalent of getting a kernel as far as all the options are preselected? |
| 00:40.48 | maher | poser: no |
| 00:41.23 | maher | poser: look in /boot for the configs of debian packaged kernels |
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| 00:43.27 | poser | maher: do the configs address every option in xconfig of the kernel.. or is it just the important ones? |
| 00:43.44 | maher | poser: debian kernels have a maximal set of options selected |
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| 00:44.45 | bluefoxicy | anyone remember where the blackdown repo was? for java |
| 00:45.20 | poser | maher: if I would like to use the debian config, do I just move it to the /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8-2 dir? |
| 00:45.49 | maher | poser: cp it to the build dir as .config and run make oldconfig |
| 00:45.51 | nevyn | bluefoxicy: which distribution are you using? |
| 00:45.55 | bluefoxicy | nevyn: ubuntu hoary |
| 00:46.07 | nevyn | bluefoxicy: doesn't that ship with java-package? |
| 00:46.20 | nevyn | or make-jpkg or whatever they're calling it this week |
| 00:46.45 | nevyn | bluefoxicy: there's an automated tool to convert sun's .bin to a .deb |
| 00:46.56 | poser | maher: so if an option isn't set, it is assumed a no? |
| 00:47.03 | calin | doesn't sun distrobute a .deb? |
| 00:47.09 | nevyn | calin: no. |
| 00:47.10 | bluefoxicy | apparently |
| 00:47.18 | maher | poser: make oldconfig will ask you for new options |
| 00:47.21 | bluefoxicy | nevyn: there was a blackdown repository for debian though |
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| 00:47.29 | bluefoxicy | for blackdown java sdk |
| 00:47.41 | nevyn | hrm blackdown was re-packing the sun jdk. |
| 00:47.54 | nevyn | just build the deb using java package. |
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| 00:48.06 | Trev1 | /j#perl |
| 00:48.10 | bluefoxicy | nevyn: no can do. |
| 00:48.14 | nevyn | Trev1: need a space. |
| 00:48.17 | bluefoxicy | nevyn: It's for a mac user, and I have to tell him what to do |
| 00:48.17 | nevyn | bluefoxicy: why not? |
| 00:48.26 | bluefoxicy | you know how apple users are |
| 00:48.33 | nevyn | write a script. |
| 00:48.40 | CompBrain | Im getting an error during sarge install `No installable kernel was found in the defined apt sources` |
| 00:48.44 | bluefoxicy | I could, but I'm lazy :) |
| 00:48.57 | CompBrain | `The current default kernel package is 'kernel-image'` |
| 00:49.10 | CompBrain | This is sarge-ppc btw |
| 00:49.22 | nevyn | http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/java-linux-d2.html |
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| 00:52.19 | calin | jesus, java in linux ISN'T DIFFICULT |
| 00:52.34 | calin | download the file from sun, install it, modify your path |
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| 00:53.45 | EricBlade | then spend the next week of your life trying to get it to run in mozilla, give up, and use Opera |
| 00:54.04 | calin | EricBlade: Or you could install a mozilla plugin |
| 00:54.13 | calin | EricBlade: *gasp* Yes, a plugin |
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| 00:54.39 | Eclipser | !tell calin about java-package |
| 00:54.55 | Eclipser | whops |
| 00:54.55 | Eclipser | sorry |
| 00:55.02 | calin | ... |
| 00:55.02 | Eclipser | I missread your sentence |
| 00:55.14 | EricBlade | at which point, you discover that because mozilla was compiled with one version of gcc, and the java version with another, that you're not likely to ever get it to work without using deb's for all of it |
| 00:55.56 | calin | EricBlade: Bad experiences? Because MY java works with mozilla |
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| 00:56.55 | CyberShadow | What's that codepage name that contains IBM pseudo-graphic chars? |
| 00:57.10 | calin | CyberShadow: we-45nQ |
| 00:57.11 | Eclipser | my java works perfectly on firefox |
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| 01:00.02 | abrotman | Phated: i love you! |
| 01:01.23 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 01:01.40 | zignig | does anyone have any comments/trouble with amd64 debian? |
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| 01:03.08 | xtream | hi guys |
| 01:03.18 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 01:03.19 | dpkg | methinks amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. unofficial at the moment, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 01:04.08 | WiFiTux | I have to say that Totem really has cool visualizations, they are real, not like Media Player or so. |
| 01:04.18 | abrotman | WiFiTux: write better ones you lazy bumm |
| 01:04.33 | xtream | someone knows how do i get the amsn by the apt ? need i change the sources.list to a unstable repository? |
| 01:04.44 | WiFiTux | abrotman, wtf I'm saying they are very good! |
| 01:05.20 | abrotman | WiFiTux: write better ones you lazy bumm |
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| 01:06.41 | WiFiTux | abrotman, :) |
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| 01:11.01 | xophEr | how can I enable my middle-mouse button in firefox? It doesnt work to close a tab with it. |
| 01:11.03 | WiFiTux | abrotman, look for a song called Bush Doctor it's singed by Peter Tosh. |
| 01:11.25 | WiFiTux | xophEr, does the middle mouse works at all? |
| 01:11.29 | abrotman | no |
| 01:11.33 | abrotman | hell no |
| 01:11.40 | CyberShadow | xophEr: by default, the middle mouse button pastes an URL in the address bar |
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| 01:11.41 | WiFiTux | abrotman, your bad then. |
| 01:11.43 | CharlesBrown | Why isn't gnomebaker in debian/sarge repositories? |
| 01:11.49 | CharlesBrown | Isn't it popular enough? |
| 01:11.56 | WiFiTux | CharlesBrown, no |
| 01:11.58 | WiFiTux | :/ |
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| 01:12.31 | CharlesBrown | damn |
| 01:12.32 | CharlesBrown | lol |
| 01:12.33 | WiFiTux | CharlesBrown, I have it. Maybe in marillat? |
| 01:12.35 | stew | !why is gnomebaker not in testing |
| 01:12.36 | dpkg | gnomebaker is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=gnomebaker |
| 01:12.37 | WiFiTux | !marillat |
| 01:12.38 | dpkg | methinks marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list |
| 01:12.42 | CharlesBrown | no, not marillat either |
| 01:12.53 | WiFiTux | CharlesBrown, then it is in Sid. |
| 01:12.58 | CharlesBrown | yea |
| 01:13.10 | xophEr | the middle button works in X and it works partially in firefox too, eg. when clicking on links with it. |
| 01:13.25 | WiFiTux | CharlesBrown, what's that? a cd burner? k3b is good enough. |
| 01:13.25 | CharlesBrown | If dpkg has an entry for why it's not in there.. |
| 01:13.29 | CharlesBrown | It must be popular enough. |
| 01:13.30 | CharlesBrown | lol |
| 01:13.42 | gaasfet | pcHDTV HD-3000 experience? |
| 01:13.51 | CharlesBrown | WiFiTux, Not when you use gnome/xfce or something |
| 01:13.52 | WiFiTux | abrotman, why not? |
| 01:13.58 | CharlesBrown | It takes like 4 minutes to load k3b |
| 01:13.59 | CharlesBrown | literally |
| 01:14.07 | CharlesBrown | On my 2.6 intel, with a gig of ram. |
| 01:14.24 | WiFiTux | CharlesBrown, 15 seconds. |
| 01:14.27 | CyberShadow | xophEr: by default, the middle mouse button pastes an URL in the address bar - not closes a tab. |
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| 01:14.38 | MobyTurbo | CharlesBrown: use cdrecord directly, it has an excellent manpage. |
| 01:14.42 | xophEr | CyberShadow, yes, how do I change that? :) |
| 01:14.50 | CyberShadow | xophEr: I have no idea :( |
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| 01:14.59 | CyberShadow | anyone knows which of the thousands of terminfo entries is most DOS-compatible (outputs pseudo-graphic chars for 0x80-0xFF etc)? |
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| 01:15.20 | WiFiTux | !praise gtkpod |
| 01:15.26 | CharlesBrown | "gnomebaker is only 6 days old. It must be 10 days old to go in." |
| 01:15.35 | CharlesBrown | Does that mean gnomebaker will be in sarge repos in 4 days? |
| 01:15.40 | CyberShadow | dpkg is female?!? |
| 01:15.46 | cafuego | CharlesBrown: Hurray. You discovered k3b is crap. |
| 01:15.52 | cafuego | CharlesBrown: Since the operation, yes. |
| 01:15.56 | WiFiTux | CharlesBrown, I don't think so. |
| 01:15.57 | cafuego | CyberShadow too |
| 01:16.00 | dondelelcaro | CharlesBrown: that means it may go in in 4 days. |
| 01:16.03 | CharlesBrown | yea, k3b is kinda crappy |
| 01:16.11 | CharlesBrown | I mean, the user interface is nice...but it's just so slow. |
| 01:16.19 | WiFiTux | k3b is good. |
| 01:16.21 | CharlesBrown | No one should use libraries as big as kdelibs |
| 01:16.26 | Sirgado | k3b is crap? why do you think such thing? |
| 01:16.27 | WiFiTux | there might be better ones... |
| 01:16.27 | CharlesBrown | Should have used qt or gtk |
| 01:16.32 | MobyTurbo | who needs all of these GUI front-ends when mkisofs/cdrecord do all you need to do by themselves? |
| 01:16.33 | cafuego | CharlesBrown: The way it hngs X on my machine is a small negative point, too. |
| 01:16.35 | CyberShadow | "dpkg prostrates *herself* before gtkpod" |
| 01:16.39 | Sirgado | wich program is better? |
| 01:16.46 | CharlesBrown | cool, it hangs on your box too |
| 01:16.50 | CharlesBrown | I tried to fix it, nothing worked. |
| 01:16.57 | bluefox83 | CyberShadow, dpkg is a bot.. |
| 01:17.09 | cafuego | Sirgado: k3b is a *front end* not a program. |
| 01:17.16 | CyberShadow | duh, bots can have gender too! |
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| 01:17.25 | WiFiTux | MobyTurbo, we don't burn things like you. I remind you your command. cdrecord ~/pr0n |
| 01:17.29 | MobyTurbo | that's bottette |
| 01:17.38 | cafuego | WiFiTux: mkisofs you mean |
| 01:17.47 | WiFiTux | cafuego, same thing. |
| 01:17.48 | WiFiTux | :) |
| 01:17.54 | cafuego | WiFiTux: since when? |
| 01:17.59 | WiFiTux | cafuego, whatever. |
| 01:18.00 | Sirgado | yes, i know, is a frontend of multiple programs, but user percibe it as a program, and i think it works fine |
| 01:18.16 | cafuego | Sirgado: Well, it doesn't work at all, here. |
| 01:18.17 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: since cdrecord version 3.2.1059DWIMDAMNIT |
| 01:18.21 | WiFiTux | Sirgado, don't worry. k3b is good. |
| 01:18.22 | MobyTurbo | WiFiTux: mkisofs -R /var/cache/apt/archives ~/archives |
| 01:18.34 | cafuego | Sirgado: That makes it crap in my book. |
| 01:18.59 | bluefox83 | what the hell..my second hard drive is mounted as read only and it shoul be read-write..wonder how that happened O.o |
| 01:19.06 | bluefox83 | *should |
| 01:19.14 | MobyTurbo | WiFiTux: oops, forgot the -o cd.iso |
| 01:19.23 | Sirgado | wich alternative is better cafuego? |
| 01:19.36 | _morbid_ | how to enable/disable services without have to handle directely the synlinks? |
| 01:19.38 | mentor | dpkg gender |
| 01:19.38 | dpkg | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 01:19.52 | asg | _morbid_: man update-rc.d ; install rcconf |
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| 01:20.00 | Sirgado | wow, can you have real sex yourself? |
| 01:20.06 | cafuego | Sirgado: I find nautilus-cd-record to actually work very well. |
| 01:20.06 | _morbid_ | thanks asg |
| 01:20.14 | CyberShadow | :) |
| 01:20.17 | cafuego | Sirgado: or even cdrecord and mkisofs on the command line |
| 01:20.21 | MobyTurbo | Sirgado: since they are all front ends to mkisofs and cdrecord you might as well use the real thing and enjoy all the features you need without the overhead. |
| 01:20.43 | CyberShadow | anyone knows which of the thousands of terminfo entries is most DOS-compatible (outputs pseudo-graphic chars for 0x80-0xFF etc)? |
| 01:20.57 | meff | anyone know how to modify the gnome (nautilus) preferred multimedia app? |
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| 01:21.09 | Sirgado | not too much overhead for k3b |
| 01:21.36 | bluefox83 | grrrr... |
| 01:21.38 | ongeboren | somebody with positive experience with gmailfs ? i can't start it on my box althought I did read and followed the steps from readme.debian |
| 01:21.38 | Sirgado | and always think there also unexperienced and winodws style users |
| 01:21.42 | cafuego | Sirgado: I consider 'locking up X' a bit much. |
| 01:21.42 | MobyTurbo | Sirgado: only if you're running KDE, and even then it's overhead. |
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| 01:21.59 | asg | bluefox83: a filesystem error probably resulted in the filesystem being remounted ro |
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| 01:22.11 | cafuego | People who want windows should use windows, not KDE. |
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| 01:22.24 | shiversisshiveri | #goshivers |
| 01:22.26 | bluefox83 | how do i find out how my partitions are mounted? mount just said my second partition is mounted rw, but when i try to move a file to it, it says it's read only.. |
| 01:22.52 | Sirgado | i hope linux will be userfriendly |
| 01:22.59 | bluefox83 | ... |
| 01:23.07 | bbrazil | bluefox83: cat /proc/mounts |
| 01:23.13 | asg | bluefox83: since it is read-only ; fsck it. Then, remount it rw. |
| 01:23.32 | asg | Sirgado: it is |
| 01:23.52 | Sirgado | k3b is userfriendly, cdrecord no |
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| 01:24.29 | asg | Sirgado: it isn't i-can't-read-for-toffee-weed-you-fuX0rs friendly though |
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| 01:24.51 | Sirgado | sorry, don't understand that large expression |
| 01:25.06 | asg | Sirgado: watch more Blackadder episodes |
| 01:25.47 | Sirgado | english is not my language, i must learn more |
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| 01:26.31 | asg | !qotd88 |
| 01:26.31 | dpkg | < quadrata> debiant: well, I want to run aol on debian, but my cd only works in windows < quadrata> I'll brb, I gotta get some fruitcake. Hope you guys will help me with the aol soon. |
| 01:26.43 | cafuego | Sirgado: k3b is far from userfriendly. |
| 01:26.43 | MobyTurbo | Sirgado: cdrecord's manpage is one of the best in free software. If you can't figure out what is in the "EXAMPLES" section of that manpage perhaps you should reconsider your decision to use a Unix-like OS. |
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| 01:27.02 | cafuego | it's has a massively overfeatured GUI, users would get lost in there. |
| 01:27.05 | drini | it's much more userfriendly than lpain cdrecord, anyway |
| 01:27.29 | DarknessX | cafuego: I've never gotten lost in k3b :-/ |
| 01:27.29 | cafuego | when i insert a blank cd, it shows up on the desktop. i then drag data ont it, right click and choose 'Burn CD' |
| 01:27.30 | Sirgado | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.30 | MobyTurbo | drini: cdrecord is only unfriendly to people who don't bother reading manpages. |
| 01:27.39 | Sirgado | but not my friends |
| 01:27.45 | drini | as k3b uis only ufriendly to people who don't read documenttion |
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| 01:27.47 | drini | :P hehe |
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| 01:28.11 | cafuego | drini: The docs don't cover 'locks up X' |
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| 01:28.20 | drini | cdrecord also have bugs |
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| 01:28.39 | cafuego | drini: But cdrecord nevertheless doesn't lock up X. |
| 01:28.51 | MobyTurbo | drini: if cdrecord has a bug, so does k3b, because k3b is a front end. |
| 01:28.55 | bluefox83 | burn is a nice little app, you might like it..but it's command line.. |
| 01:28.59 | drini | no, it can freeze your whole machine |
| 01:29.04 | Sirgado | you linux taliban :-P |
| 01:29.07 | drini | http://www.google.com/search?&q=cdrecord%20freezes&sourceid=firefox |
| 01:29.16 | xophEr | does anyone know what to do so you can close tabs in firefox with the middle button? |
| 01:29.39 | MobyTurbo | drini: which makes k3b more stable how? |
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| 01:29.56 | deadcat | xophEr: not on linux. they used to have a plugin for .9 but doesnt work on 1.0+ |
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| 01:30.11 | xophEr | ok.. |
| 01:30.14 | drini | claim: cdrecord is unfriendly only if you don't read manpages |
| 01:30.22 | drini | well k3b only is if you don't rad docs |
| 01:30.25 | astronut | that's crap, and you know it |
| 01:30.27 | astronut | lol |
| 01:30.30 | drini | but.. k3b have undocumented bugs! |
| 01:30.34 | drini | cdrecord may also have them |
| 01:30.35 | drini | so? |
| 01:31.18 | MobyTurbo | k3b is blessed both with it's own bugs and cdrecord's bugs, because it is a front end to cdrecord/mkisofs. Therefore arguing that k3b avoids cdrecord bugs is nonsenesical. |
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| 01:31.32 | CyberShadow | how to set a charmap for the current terminal? |
| 01:31.34 | Jarn | what is the name of the oss pkg |
| 01:31.39 | Jarn | i wanna apt-get remove it to stick in alsa |
| 01:31.40 | calin | can someone tell |
| 01:31.42 | Jarn | and alsa-oss |
| 01:31.42 | astronut | The device refers to scsibus/target/lun of the CD/DVD-Recorder. Communication on SunOS is done with the SCSI general driver scg. Other operating systems are using a library simulation of this driver. Possible syntax is: dev= scsibus,target,lun or dev= target,lun. |
| 01:31.43 | asg | CyberShadow: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 01:31.44 | calin | erk |
| 01:31.48 | astronut | ya, that's very clear to joe user |
| 01:31.50 | drini | I didn't claim it avoid bugs |
| 01:32.09 | calin | can someone tell me where i should check if all of my dns querys resolve to localhost/my ip |
| 01:32.10 | calin | ? |
| 01:32.11 | drini | I only claim that crying that k3b has bugs and it makes it less userfriendly |
| 01:32.15 | drini | applies the same way to cdrecord |
| 01:32.20 | astronut | some grandma's not going to understand it |
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| 01:32.39 | MobyTurbo | drini: if you haven't figured out the hole in your logic yet I pity you. |
| 01:32.40 | CyberShadow | asg: I said charmap, for the current console only (not system-wide) |
| 01:32.43 | BrianAnthony | where would a USB game deivce be located? |
| 01:32.53 | bluefox83 | calin, the config file for whatever dns prog you're using i'd imagine.. |
| 01:32.53 | CyberShadow | it has something to do with snny I think |
| 01:33.03 | CyberShadow | *stty |
| 01:33.14 | Jarn | what is the name of the oss package please? |
| 01:33.24 | calin | what's the default dns serveR? |
| 01:33.24 | bluefox83 | BrianAnthony, please tell me that's not your real name you're using in chat... |
| 01:33.29 | calin | for debian? |
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| 01:33.38 | asg | calin: there isn't one |
| 01:33.44 | Soda_and_Debian | jarn: for alsa? |
| 01:33.49 | calin | asg: that sux |
| 01:33.52 | BrianAnthony | bluefox83: No, it's mu uncle's |
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| 01:33.55 | asg | calin: no |
| 01:33.58 | BrianAnthony | s/mu/my |
| 01:34.07 | Jarn | Soda_and_Debian: i want to remove oss and put in alsa, but i dont know the name of oss so i cant apt-get remove it |
| 01:34.10 | calin | asg: it does for me. means that it can't be that. |
| 01:34.12 | bluefox83 | BrianAnthony, you might conscider changing it... |
| 01:34.14 | drini | I onlly claim k3b is not inherently less userfriendly than cdrecord, all programs have bugs but being userfriendly goes beyond bug numbers |
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| 01:34.20 | calin | asg: so i'm back on no feet to stand on |
| 01:34.22 | BrianAnthony | bluefox83: why...? |
| 01:34.22 | asg | calin: man 5 resolv.conf |
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| 01:35.10 | drini | and if you pity me fo not using your "logic" i just shrug for you not seeng my point, I don't care if you pity me or not, bleh |
| 01:35.11 | MobyTurbo | drini: locking up your system while burning a CD makes that CD into a coaster. |
| 01:35.28 | Jarn | if anyone has the answer to my question, I would appreciate it if you would msg me. I need to go afk, but I can read it when I get back |
| 01:35.31 | Soda_and_Debian | Jarn: you don't just install alsa then run alsaconf |
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| 01:35.37 | bluefox83 | BrianAnthony, because anyone can find out exactly where you are with your name and ip, and since this server doesn't even try to mask ip's you can find it really easily |
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| 01:35.43 | drini | neither cdrecord nr k3b do that usually, unless you use a speciall y buggy version, then you can upgrade |
| 01:35.45 | asg | Jarn: if someone knows, they will answer. |
| 01:35.59 | BrianAnthony | bluefox83: ...My mom taught me about internet stalkers when I wa slike 10... |
| 01:36.05 | Jarn | Soda_and_Debian: Don't I need to remove oss though? |
| 01:36.11 | BrianAnthony | I don't give a crap |
| 01:36.13 | mrhemlock | pdo is down, This means no testing updates ? |
| 01:36.21 | asg | mrhemlock: no, /topic |
| 01:36.33 | BrianAnthony | Do you know where I would I find my USB game device? |
| 01:37.02 | asg | BrianAnthony: look in /var/log/dmesg (see if anything interesting shows up when you plug it in) |
| 01:37.12 | bluefox83 | BrianAnthony, i'm not familiar with any usb game devices that have drivers in linux..so i don't know where they'd be located |
| 01:37.13 | Jarn | Soda_and_Debian: anyway, afk a bit |
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| 01:37.50 | Soda_and_Debian | Jarn: I think that what you want to do is remplace PCM oss for alsa instaed. if so, install alsaplayer-alsa |
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| 01:38.39 | deadcat | what lang is this: http://software.thai.net/locale/locale/14652/i18n.txt |
| 01:39.04 | asg | deadcat: from the domain name, I'd guess thai. |
| 01:39.14 | deadcat | asg: no. computer lang. (= |
| 01:39.21 | Shane^ | hmm |
| 01:39.29 | deadcat | assembly? |
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| 01:39.53 | asg | deadcat: no, looks like a really fucked up fortune file to me ;) |
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| 01:40.04 | cafuego | From the maintainer's email address, i'd hazard "Danish" |
| 01:40.49 | deadcat | asg: nah. i think its the exploit prog used to get root on my friend's work system |
| 01:40.56 | Shane^ | easy way to get my box to start dhclient @ boot? it cound not get it right under d-i so I had to fix it manually during install. Now I'm not sure where to change tehe default behavior |
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| 01:42.06 | bbrazil | deadcat: I'm guessing data for is_alpha, is_space etc. for unicode |
| 01:42.09 | asg | deadcat: I seriously doubt that (though it does make a rather odd but workable fortune file.) |
| 01:42.16 | Flimzy | Shane^: edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:42.35 | mithro | hello, i'm currently having problems with debootstrap, it dies when trying to download console-tools |
| 01:42.55 | WiFiTux | will alsa give me better quality than OSS? |
| 01:43.07 | mithro | any idea what could be causing this? |
| 01:43.28 | Flimzy | WiFiTux: It depends on your sound card, and on your sound applications. |
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| 01:43.50 | WiFiTux | Flimzy, Intel ICH classic old card. |
| 01:43.56 | Flimzy | WiFiTux: alsa has a lot more capabilities than oss. But not all sound cards or apps can take advantage of those capabilities. |
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| 01:44.27 | Flimzy | WiFiTux: I know nothing about an Intel ICH card... but if it's old, then chances are that ALSA will offer little or no improvement in most cases |
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| 01:44.53 | Shane^ | Flimzy: thanx |
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| 01:45.03 | Flimzy | WiFiTux: In my case, ALSA wouldn't even work with the card in my laptop (altho it's supposed to, the module wouldn't even load. OSS works okay, tho) |
| 01:45.05 | Enolayale | why can't I mount my second hard drive? does the default kernel have support for fat32 or ntfs? |
| 01:45.07 | WiFiTux | Flimzy, snd_intel8x0 or so. |
| 01:45.21 | asg | Enolayale: the standard debian kernels do |
| 01:45.22 | WiFiTux | Flimzy, which card? |
| 01:45.27 | deadcat | asg: ah. those might be the outputs of strings |
| 01:45.45 | abrotman | asg: oh come on .. it was innocent |
| 01:46.08 | asg | deadcat: well, they are delimited in some way 'FOO .... END FOO' |
| 01:46.12 | asg | abrotman: ;) |
| 01:46.12 | Flimzy | WiFiTux: My card is a CS4237 or somesuch |
| 01:46.19 | WiFiTux | Flimzy, oh. |
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| 01:46.22 | Enolayale | asg: I tried to mount but it says it can't find it |
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| 01:46.37 | asg | Enolayale: find what? |
| 01:46.52 | Enolayale | the entry in fstab, do I have to enter it manually? |
| 01:47.06 | asg | Enolayale: yes, if it isn't in there. |
| 01:47.22 | Enolayale | how do I automount? which file is it? |
| 01:47.44 | asg | Enolayale: egrep |
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| 01:47.49 | abrotman | asg: phatd hates me anyways :( |
| 01:47.57 | asg | Enolayale: disregard that |
| 01:48.04 | asg | abrotman: why? I thought you were buds? |
| 01:48.26 | asg | Enolayale: is there anything in /etc/fstab that has vfat or ntfs for the filesystem type? |
| 01:48.30 | abrotman | asg: noone likes me :( |
| 01:48.45 | Enolayale | nothing |
| 01:48.53 | asg | abrotman: you're just saying that because you've had too many beers |
| 01:49.03 | abrotman | asg: no beers |
| 01:49.27 | asg | Enolayale: do you know which device your vfat or ntfs filesystem lives on? /dev/hda3 for instance? |
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| 01:49.42 | Enolayale | asg: /dev/hdb1 and hdb2 |
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| 01:49.53 | Enolayale | hdb1 = ntfs, and the other is vfat |
| 01:50.06 | mithro | it only dies when doing sarge or sid debootstrap, not when bootstrapping woody |
| 01:50.18 | asg | Enolayale: does 'mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt' work? |
| 01:50.34 | zodiaq | small problem with my newly updated system(sarge) and kde+xfree... i cant use the keyboard at all in kde. anyone have a clue what might have caused this? |
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| 01:50.45 | Enolayale | wow! worked! |
| 01:50.50 | Enolayale | asg: thanks |
| 01:51.02 | asg | Enolayale: sub ntfs for vfat for the other. |
| 01:51.07 | Enolayale | which file can I use to automount? |
| 01:51.18 | asg | Enolayale: apt-cache show autofs |
| 01:51.36 | Flimzy | zodiaq: keyboard unplugged? |
| 01:52.00 | asg | abrotman: bah, you know you are beloved on #debian. Either way, have a beer. |
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| 01:52.13 | abrotman | asg: but i've been slacking .. |
| 01:52.16 | Enolayale | asg: well it shows up in df -h but it seems a little screwed. |
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| 01:52.26 | asg | Enolayale: in what way? |
| 01:52.30 | abrotman | asg: i've fallen behind bob2 :) |
| 01:52.30 | Flimzy | For Linux-to-Linux filesharing, is SMB, NFS3 or NFS4 faster? (Security is not a big concern) |
| 01:52.31 | asg | abrotman: in what way? |
| 01:52.42 | Enolayale | both b1 and b2 are showing up as the same |
| 01:52.45 | Enolayale | and I can't go into them |
| 01:52.46 | Flimzy | or CIFS, I guess, which I would be using with Samba anyway, I suppose |
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| 01:52.53 | asg | abrotman: bah, bob2, when he is here, is a maniac. He just comes in spurts |
| 01:52.57 | asg | er ... hmmm |
| 01:53.07 | zodiaq | Flimzy: nah i tried installing it in the ps2port several times... |
| 01:53.15 | asg | Enolayale: don't try to mount both on /mnt (that was just for testing) |
| 01:53.19 | abrotman | asg: heh |
| 01:53.28 | Flimzy | zodiaq: Which one? |
| 01:53.40 | Enolayale | asg: thanks for helping |
| 01:53.41 | asg | Enolayale: mount one on, for instance, /mnt/vfat, the other on /mnt/ntfs (or whatever makes sense for you.) |
| 01:53.42 | Flimzy | zodiaq: can you use the keyboard at the console? |
| 01:53.45 | asg | Enolayale: you're welcome |
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| 01:54.16 | abrotman | who here washes lots of clothes? |
| 01:54.24 | abrotman | maybe i should rephrase that |
| 01:54.28 | stew | uhh |
| 01:54.37 | MobyTurbo | abrotman: washes? What's washes? |
| 01:54.44 | abrotman | anyone make mistakes with dry clean stuff going in the w/d ? |
| 01:54.57 | Flimzy | abrotman: I've done that |
| 01:55.04 | zodiaq | Flimzy: the first one where its always been ;) |
| 01:55.09 | abrotman | i'm wondering if you can wash a pair of dry clena only pants |
| 01:55.15 | zodiaq | Flimzy: yeah i can use it in the console |
| 01:55.21 | maher | abrotman: hot wash then tumble dry - if it doesn't survive throw it out |
| 01:55.28 | Flimzy | abrotman: had a pair of dry-clean-only pants... didn't realize at time of purchase. Wasn't willing ot dry clean it weekly, so machine washed |
| 01:55.31 | stew | abrotman: you can always handwash stuff |
| 01:55.35 | Jarn | Soda_and_Debian: back |
| 01:55.36 | stew | and hang to dry |
| 01:55.38 | WiFiTux | cafuego, nothing on the boot menu colors? |
| 01:55.43 | Flimzy | abrotman: I washed it in cold water |
| 01:55.48 | Flimzy | abrotman: The result after many washings was that the black pants turned green. |
| 01:56.02 | abrotman | Flimzy: that's awesome ..glad i didn't wash them |
| 01:56.03 | Flimzy | abrotman: they sell stuff to do a home 'dry cleaning' in a dryer |
| 01:56.50 | Flimzy | abrotman: I'd only machine wash in an emergancy :) |
| 01:57.08 | abrotman | how about i don't then |
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| 01:57.14 | abrotman | stupid dry clean only stuff ... |
| 01:57.28 | abrotman | i have a nice sweather .. thought it was w/d safe .. it would fit a 7 y/o now |
| 01:57.30 | abrotman | maybe |
| 01:57.38 | abrotman | !hit resiak with a bottle |
| 01:57.52 | resiak | !hit abrotman with a pie |
| 01:57.57 | resiak | How long will this go on? |
| 01:58.05 | astronut | !kick resiak |
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| 01:58.08 | astronut | !kick abrotman |
| 01:58.09 | astronut | hmm |
| 01:58.10 | abrotman | !smack resiak with a large elephant |
| 01:58.13 | astronut | doesn't quite work as intentended |
| 01:58.15 | dondelelcaro | yeesh, stop abusing the bot |
| 01:58.16 | abrotman | doh! |
| 01:58.22 | calin | !trout astronut |
| 01:58.26 | calin | =\ |
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| 01:58.42 | calin | lol |
| 01:58.55 | resiak | Sorry dondelelcaro... |
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| 01:59.20 | dondelelcaro | resiak: no need to apologize... (or at least, not to me specifically) |
| 01:59.35 | resiak | dondelelcaro: He's your bot. I have my own to abuse elsewhere :) |
| 01:59.46 | abrotman | dpkg: sorry ... |
| 02:00.01 | dondelelcaro | oh, I don't care about people playing with the bot... it's the whole useless traffic in the channel that's annoying. |
| 02:00.08 | abrotman | dpkg: say I want to make sweet love with raseac |
| 02:00.09 | dpkg | I want to make sweet love with raseac |
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| 02:00.33 | dondelelcaro | if you need to play with it, use /msg |
| 02:00.53 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: why would i do that .. i've got a bed .. and a shower .. and all kinds of places |
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| 02:01.34 | Varanger | hello |
| 02:01.40 | Varanger | I has installed Debian |
| 02:01.52 | Varanger | I am in console and I can't type ^ |
| 02:02.11 | Varanger | My keymap is Latin American: loadkeys la-latin1 |
| 02:02.14 | Varanger | how can I do? |
| 02:03.13 | zodiaq | now i got some more info... "Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registrered at priority 0" |
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| 02:04.12 | Phated | abrotman: ? |
| 02:04.20 | Phated | asg: Why thank you. :) |
| 02:04.27 | asg | Phated: you're welcome |
| 02:04.31 | abrotman | Phated: !!! |
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| 02:04.45 | Jarn | How do I remove oss? |
| 02:04.59 | abrotman | Phated: i miss you! |
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| 02:05.07 | Phated | abrotman: ... |
| 02:05.17 | abrotman | Phated: ??? |
| 02:05.52 | abrotman | such witty banter |
| 02:05.53 | mrhemlock | how can i get sarge updates for today, i don t understand topic, sorry ! |
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| 02:06.08 | asg | mrhemlock: apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade |
| 02:06.37 | asg | mrhemlock: /topic has nothing to do with your ability to get today's updates |
| 02:07.06 | abrotman | mrhemlock: man apt-get .. understand the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade |
| 02:07.32 | mrhemlock | but update didnt get any new sources.lst ? |
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| 02:07.47 | mrhemlock | sorry new package lists |
| 02:08.07 | abrotman | do it again |
| 02:08.15 | abrotman | the server you hit might not have synced yet |
| 02:08.52 | mrhemlock | nothing from http://http.us.debian.org |
| 02:09.04 | abrotman | there are like 7 of those |
| 02:09.18 | abrotman | ok .. 5 |
| 02:09.21 | asg | The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 02:09.21 | asg | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.23 | mrhemlock | no new packages is what i get |
| 02:09.27 | asg | mrhemlock: that is since this morning |
| 02:09.36 | mrhemlock | yesterday |
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| 02:10.24 | myren | anyone familiar with Kahlil Gibran? - The Prophet? |
| 02:10.32 | mrhemlock | asg, i am PSTPDT i update around 3pm yesterday |
| 02:10.51 | abrotman | !katie |
| 02:10.51 | dpkg | [katie] who I seek to emulate, or the daemon in the Debian archive system that processes new packages and inserts them into the archive. It runs at 1952 UTC daily. the women.kde.org mascot, or 166.82.1.7 |
| 02:11.01 | asg | mrhemlock: well, the machine from which I pasted the above was updated this morning at 7:30am EST |
| 02:11.08 | myren | i'm looking for something in that vain but a little more flowery & rougish |
| 02:11.11 | abrotman | myren: wrong chanel ? |
| 02:11.39 | asg | myren: any Jethro Tull pre 1980 should fit the bill. |
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| 02:12.00 | abrotman | there's stuff after 1980 ? :) |
| 02:12.06 | billyoc | lol |
| 02:12.07 | asg | abrotman: quite a bit |
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| 02:12.42 | abrotman | asg: wow .. must be good stuff :) |
| 02:13.18 | asg | abrotman: not really. There are some surprising highlights but mostly they have been mediocre for a while. |
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| 02:13.55 | abrotman | asg: it was all a joke .. i know there is plenty of newer tull .. and it all is pretty bad :) |
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| 02:14.13 | abrotman | asg: come on .. give me some credit .. i've got the thick as a brick on vinyl . the newspaper one :) |
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| 02:14.19 | asg | abrotman: hehe |
| 02:14.40 | asg | !give abrotman credit |
| 02:14.41 | dpkg | give abrotman credit |
| 02:14.50 | abrotman | that worked well |
| 02:14.53 | zignig | man that mp3 has been collecting dist for a while |
| 02:15.02 | zignig | s/dist/dust |
| 02:15.03 | asg | someone's been fooling with the factoids *again* |
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| 02:15.47 | spoopin | asg: hi |
| 02:15.50 | asg | anyone with Judas Priest's 'Rocka Rolla' in ogg format gets extra points. |
| 02:15.55 | asg | spoopin: hiya |
| 02:16.02 | marco_ | hello |
| 02:16.07 | asg | polo |
| 02:16.07 | spoopin | asg: how's it going, eh? |
| 02:16.11 | abrotman | asg: lots of people mess with them |
| 02:16.23 | abrotman | !factinfo cmd: give (.*?) |
| 02:16.23 | dpkg | abrotman: there's no such factoid as CMD: give (.*?) |
| 02:16.24 | asg | spoopin: long day but okay. |
| 02:16.29 | abrotman | wtf |
| 02:16.35 | spoopin | asg: quite. talk to Kev today? |
| 02:16.38 | mward | I did a debian-installer install that put an initrd on my system. I'd like to stop using the initrd. I've recompiled a new kernel, and installed it the proper way, but nevertheless, my kernel has a panic: Cannot open root device. I've made sure I have IDE, EXT3 support and lba32 set (in lilo.conf). What am I missing? |
| 02:16.43 | asg | abrotman: give $1 (.*?) maybe |
| 02:16.46 | abrotman | !literal cmd: give (.*?) |
| 02:16.55 | asg | spoopin: no, I talked over the weekend but briefly. |
| 02:16.56 | abrotman | !factinfo cmd: give $1 (.*?) |
| 02:16.56 | dpkg | abrotman: there's no such factoid as CMD: give $1 (.*?) |
| 02:17.01 | abrotman | !factinfo cmd: give $1 |
| 02:17.01 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as CMD: give $1, abrotman |
| 02:17.02 | resiak | !literal cmd: give (.*?) (.*?) |
| 02:17.02 | dpkg | CMD: give (.*?) (.*?) is ($1,$2): give $1 $2 |
| 02:17.08 | asg | !win resiak |
| 02:17.09 | dpkg | Congratulations, resiak! You have won the US presidency! |
| 02:17.10 | resiak | !win me |
| 02:17.10 | dpkg | Congratulations, resiak! You have won the US presidency! |
| 02:17.15 | spoopin | asg: Ah. He put in his notice at work :) |
| 02:17.17 | resiak | XD |
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| 02:17.37 | asg | spoopin: ah, he said he was going to. What's he going to do now? |
| 02:18.01 | marco_ | I want config a firewall in debian, with ferm. it's good? |
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| 02:18.08 | spoopin | asg: Umm. Study for exams, then have a few drinks on the lawn, most likely |
| 02:18.12 | sgeigerbot | abrotman, no, I'm not mad at you...and I never was. |
| 02:18.16 | asg | spoopin: ah :) |
| 02:18.22 | asg | spoopin: we having beers this week? |
| 02:18.48 | spoopin | asg: dunno actually. I was pretty sick yesterday, so I've been laying off the alcohol |
| 02:18.57 | spoopin | asg: had to call in and everything |
| 02:19.05 | asg | spoopin: ouch |
| 02:19.09 | spoopin | asg: yeah |
| 02:19.33 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: you are! |
| 02:19.36 | spoopin | asg: Em took good care of me, though :) |
| 02:19.37 | asg | spoopin: well, if you feel up to a few later on, let me know. |
| 02:19.41 | asg | spoopin: hehe |
| 02:19.50 | sgeigerbot | abrotman, why would I be? |
| 02:19.54 | spoopin | asg: cool. Will do. |
| 02:20.05 | Soda_and_Debian | mrhemlock: apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:20.06 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: your primary language assumption |
| 02:20.07 | abrotman | :) |
| 02:20.07 | spoopin | asg: I think the Neuros died today :( |
| 02:20.14 | asg | spoopin: oh no? |
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| 02:20.40 | sgeigerbot | I did a debian-installer install that put an initrd on my system. I'd like to stop using the initrd. I've recompiled a new kernel, and installed it the proper way, but nevertheless, my kernel has a panic: Cannot open root device. I've made sure I have IDE, EXT3 support and lba32 set (in lilo.conf). What am I missing? |
| 02:20.46 | spoopin | asg: It won't power up. I'm trying to recharge the battery. Maybe it's just too low to boot. |
| 02:20.55 | sgeigerbot | abrotman, what? |
| 02:20.59 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: nm |
| 02:21.01 | Chrissy2k5 | Hey.. how can i rmdir so it removes all the directorys sub-directories even though they still contain files |
| 02:21.02 | asg | spoopin: maybe. Odd though |
| 02:21.13 | asg | Chrissy2k5: rm -Rf foo/ |
| 02:21.24 | b3tty | hi guys, im having a problem setting up my linksys wpc54gs in debian sarge. What I did was apt-get install ndis* then I got the latest windows driver from linksys, and did a ndiswrapper -i on the .inf file provided, it said that it installed the driver and the hardware |
| 02:21.24 | Chrissy2k5 | cheers |
| 02:21.29 | sgeigerbot | abrotman, Don't worry. You can tell me. I don't mind that your English is bad. |
| 02:21.31 | b3tty | what am I supposed to do next? |
| 02:21.51 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: right ... |
| 02:21.52 | katya | b3tty: you need the ndiswrapper module |
| 02:21.59 | katya | b3tty: i've used it, but only from source. |
| 02:22.01 | spoopin | asg: yeah. I hadn't used it since Friday, so I don't know when it died. |
| 02:22.09 | asg | spoopin: ah, okay |
| 02:22.13 | b3tty | katya, can I install that with apt ? |
| 02:22.16 | ongeboren | what should I do to get rid of the warning telling me a .wmv file is actually a .asf file when I click on it to open it ? it's really annoying to gi via the "open with" menu |
| 02:22.28 | katya | b3tty: i'm not sure, does it show up in apt-cache search? |
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| 02:22.56 | katya | ndiswrapper-source - Source for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module <- at least the source is there |
| 02:23.03 | b3tty | katya, just source and utils |
| 02:23.19 | katya | well |
| 02:23.31 | katya | unless it comes with your kernel... |
| 02:23.34 | katya | which i doubt, really |
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| 02:24.24 | b3tty | i guess i have some more reading too do, am I going to have to compile the kernel aswell as the source ? |
| 02:24.37 | Jarn | how do I remove oss? I want to use alsa instead, have all my stuff use alsa |
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| 02:25.34 | deadcat | Jarn: you dont, |
| 02:25.37 | katya | b3tty: i compiled ndiswrapper's driver outside of my kernel without any problem |
| 02:25.52 | katya | b3tty: but i have all my kernel source setup, so make sure you installed it too |
| 02:26.09 | deadcat | b3tty: ndiswrapper.sf.net has a link to .deb source. all you need is kernel-headers-`uname -r` to compile the driver |
| 02:26.10 | b3tty | katya, ok, ill have to get the source atlesat, then compile it |
| 02:26.21 | Jarn | deadcat: then how do I make things use alsa once its installed? |
| 02:26.36 | b3tty | thanks alot, ill come back if i have any more questions |
| 02:26.44 | Flimzy | Jarn: You load the alsa modules instead of the oss modules. |
| 02:26.49 | deadcat | Jarn: options within the app |
| 02:26.58 | Flimzy | Jarn: Or if you're not using modules, then you just compile the kernel with alsa support instead of oss support. |
| 02:26.58 | Jarn | Flimzy: how do I do that? |
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| 02:27.05 | deadcat | katya: did you use: deb http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/debian ./ ? |
| 02:27.47 | deadcat | sgeigerbot: i surrender... )= |
| 02:28.14 | sgeigerbot | :-) |
| 02:28.39 | sgeigerbot | deadcat, the proper response is "Thank you, sir! May I have another!?" |
| 02:28.48 | Flimzy | Jarn: do which? |
| 02:28.55 | deadcat | sgeigerbot: HAHAHAHA. |
| 02:29.01 | myren | are there any sites which track cultural movements? |
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| 02:29.09 | Jarn | Flimzy: the modules |
| 02:29.34 | myren | i'm trying to use Wikipedia to find offshoots of the beat generation, but its defiantely not working |
| 02:29.40 | Flimzy | Jarn: man insmod/lsmod/modprobe |
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| 02:29.47 | Flimzy | Jarn: possibly edit /etc/modules |
| 02:30.00 | abrotman | donde esta gluck? |
| 02:30.11 | abrotman | nm |
| 02:30.14 | abrotman | stupid dns |
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| 02:31.01 | Jarn | Flimzy: oss isnt in /etc/modules. all that is is ide-cd and ide-detect |
| 02:31.15 | myren | i want a subculture database damnit |
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| 02:33.14 | deadcat | Jarn: no such module called oss |
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| 02:34.07 | dasameog408 | hello |
| 02:34.12 | deadcat | ciao |
| 02:34.19 | dasameog408 | who is really good with debian and wants to make money |
| 02:34.30 | deadcat | dasameog408: nope. |
| 02:34.39 | dasameog408 | a lot of cash |
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| 02:34.49 | deadcat | dasameog408: wrong channel |
| 02:34.59 | dasameog408 | buts its debian |
| 02:35.00 | dasameog408 | please |
| 02:35.05 | deadcat | dasameog408: just ask the damn q |
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| 02:35.24 | dasameog408 | well i need someone to setup a webserver |
| 02:35.27 | dasameog408 | ill pay |
| 02:35.33 | deadcat | dasameog408: where? |
| 02:35.41 | dasameog408 | debian so far is the only thing that works on my server |
| 02:35.43 | dasameog408 | i have a server |
| 02:35.47 | jond3rd | dasameog408: you'll pay the plain fare? |
| 02:35.53 | deadcat | jond3rd: (= |
| 02:36.02 | jond3rd | s/plain/plane |
| 02:36.07 | dasameog408 | ill pay a lot |
| 02:36.08 | p8m | I like the fancy fares. |
| 02:36.14 | deadcat | first class? |
| 02:36.23 | deadcat | where they call you sir|maddam |
| 02:36.25 | jond3rd | hmm, book me please :) |
| 02:36.41 | dasameog408 | no ill install os |
| 02:36.56 | dasameog408 | but someone can ssh and config everything |
| 02:37.02 | deadcat | dasameog408: oh. you mean paypay pay? |
| 02:37.13 | deadcat | dasameog408: too lazy to RTFM? |
| 02:37.41 | deadcat | dasameog408: no you may not /msg me please |
| 02:37.53 | ryan` | anyone have compression working with IPsec under linux 2.6? It's not working for me, the packets seem to be getting dropped. (I'm using debian sarge with racoon to manage the ipsec tunnel) |
| 02:37.54 | dasameog408 | sorry |
| 02:38.02 | resiak | !raccoons |
| 02:38.02 | dpkg | raccoons are http://raccoon.boom.ru/RACCOONS.JPG |
| 02:38.03 | dasameog408 | ill pay 850 |
| 02:38.05 | dasameog408 | at least |
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| 02:38.27 | deadcat | dasameog408: too much for my blood |
| 02:38.44 | Chrissy2k5 | hmm how do i untar a tar.gz to a specified directory .. tar xzfv foo.tar.gz .... something |
| 02:39.02 | resiak | Chrissy2k5: man tar |
| 02:39.05 | deadcat | Chrissy2k5: tar -option asdf.gz /path dont work? |
| 02:39.14 | abrotman | doesn't |
| 02:39.18 | ryan` | Chrissy2k5, it's the -C option |
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| 02:39.33 | Chrissy2k5 | Cool ta |
| 02:39.40 | deadcat | ah. si |
| 02:39.42 | jond3rd | Chrissy2k5: try --directory=/path |
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| 02:39.57 | MobyTurbo | Chrissy2k5: gzip -dc foo.tar.gz | ( cd /the/path ; tar xvf - ) |
| 02:40.08 | trentbuck | I say... my new sarge install sorts files differently to my old sid install. |
| 02:40.16 | deadcat | hell. untar then mv |
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| 02:40.51 | trentbuck | In ls, that is. Instead of placing uppercase files and .foo files first, they get mixed in with the rest of the fiels. |
| 02:41.22 | deadcat | trentbuck: and what distro is this? |
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| 02:41.27 | Chrissy2k5 | MobyTurbo- was that a piss take ?¿ :| |
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| 02:41.36 | trentbuck | deadcat: debian/sarge |
| 02:41.44 | deadcat | trentbuck: try export LC_COLLATE=C |
| 02:41.58 | MobyTurbo | Chrissy2k5: it works fine. Note the closing parentheses that ended up (on my IRC client) on the next line. |
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| 02:42.50 | trentbuck | deadcat: Cool, that works. |
| 02:42.57 | Chrissy2k5 | sweet cheers moby |
| 02:43.02 | deadcat | trentbuck: must be some locales thats screwing with you. |
| 02:43.25 | ryan` | !racoon |
| 02:43.28 | deadcat | trentbuck: i think thats the reason i like woody->sid rather than sarge or sarge->sid. |
| 02:43.41 | ryan` | hmm\ |
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| 02:44.33 | trentbuck | deadcat: If I put LC_COLLATE=C; export LC_COLLATE in /etc/profile, that should be fixed for all subsequent login shells (with bash or dash), yes? |
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| 02:46.15 | starscalling | hello all! |
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| 02:46.50 | deadcat | 'ello there |
| 02:46.53 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody here uses mini-dinstall and can help me debug why it won't get an older version of a certain package? |
| 02:47.18 | deadcat | tzafrir_laptop: it never does. |
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| 02:47.28 | starscalling | um |
| 02:47.35 | tzafrir_laptop | s/older/newer/, sorry |
| 02:47.35 | starscalling | what about usb drivers? |
| 02:47.43 | deadcat | tzafrir_laptop: apt-get update |
| 02:47.45 | starscalling | to get piccy's out of my camera for instance? |
| 02:47.50 | Jarn | how do I run alsaconf |
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| 02:48.00 | deadcat | starscalling: gphoto2 |
| 02:48.05 | tzafrir_laptop | deadcat, I'm trying to use it to build an apt source of locally-created packages |
| 02:48.06 | deadcat | !alsa |
| 02:48.07 | dpkg | alsa is probably On Sarge, when using a debian 2.6 kernel, to use ALSA, ensure you have discover1 1.7.2 or higher, then apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils. You may need to run alsaconf too. No more faffing about with OSS modules. Remember to tell your applications and libraries to use alsa, to get any benefit. |
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| 02:48.59 | deadcat | tzafrir_laptop: dont get it. you want to create a local repository right? |
| 02:49.05 | Jarn | deadcat: i did all that |
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| 02:49.11 | Jarn | deadcat: i dont have a program called alsaconf |
| 02:49.24 | abrotman | you run it by installing alsaconf for starters |
| 02:49.25 | bluefox83 | if i swap my 15" crt monitor out for a 17 or 19" lcd monitor, would i have to change anything first to get it to work? |
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| 02:49.33 | Jarn | deadcat: *slaps self* |
| 02:49.35 | deadcat | Jarn: install alsa-base alsa-common |
| 02:49.39 | Jarn | deadcat: i needed to be root |
| 02:49.40 | abrotman | bluefox83: you'd want to reconfigure X |
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| 02:49.44 | tzafrir_laptop | yes. I have versions 0.0.86, 0.0.87 and 0.0.88 in a directory |
| 02:49.46 | Jarn | deadcat: i did that already, i needed to be root |
| 02:49.54 | deadcat | !bitchslap Jarn like a worthless whore |
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| 02:50.00 | starscalling | oh my |
| 02:50.01 | phin | are there any apt sources with fbsplash or bootsplash enabled kernels? |
| 02:50.02 | Jarn | haha |
| 02:50.04 | tzafrir_laptop | I copy them to the incoming dir of mini-dinstalld |
| 02:50.05 | starscalling | can yall see me now? |
| 02:50.06 | abrotman | !tell starscalling about usb-storage |
| 02:50.10 | starscalling | yay! |
| 02:50.11 | bluefox83 | abrotman, would i have to do that before or after i hook in the new monitor? |
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| 02:50.21 | a_monkey | for some reason when i try to install eterm (apt-get install eterm), i get 404 errors |
| 02:50.22 | phin | i dont care if they are third party, im just having a hard time building one correctly and this machine is to slow to sit thru it again |
| 02:50.24 | deadcat | phin: bootsplash.de but its old. he doesnt update it no more |
| 02:50.32 | abrotman | bluefox83: uhm... i guess after .. but it may not start .. so you might need console crap |
| 02:50.37 | phin | that has a bootsplash enabled kernel thou?? |
| 02:50.40 | phin | cause i just see the patch |
| 02:50.45 | phin | not the kernel image |
| 02:50.49 | a_monkey | should i use a different mirror? |
| 02:50.52 | tzafrir_laptop | deadcat, when I run it with --verbose I see it processes the 0.0.86 first |
| 02:50.56 | abrotman | a_monkey: yes |
| 02:50.58 | deadcat | phin: oh no. you have to compile your own. |
| 02:51.07 | phin | someone should make some! |
| 02:51.07 | phin | hehe |
| 02:51.07 | tzafrir_laptop | deadcat, when I run it with --verbose I see it processes the 0.0.86 last, that is |
| 02:51.10 | bluefox83 | abrotman, should i kill X before i do it, so that th emonitor will work? |
| 02:51.16 | abrotman | bluefox83: you can |
| 02:51.22 | bluefox83 | ok |
| 02:51.23 | bluefox83 | thanks |
| 02:51.27 | deadcat | tzafrir_laptop: oh. using your own .debs during install? that i have no clue. |
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| 02:51.33 | phin | i rolled one with fbsplash |
| 02:51.43 | tzafrir_laptop | and all I have of the newer versions is the orig tar. Yes, packages I built on my own |
| 02:51.43 | a_monkey | abrotman: let me try ftp.debian.org. what should my sources.list look like if i were to use debian's main ftp site |
| 02:51.47 | a_monkey | abrotman: ? |
| 02:51.49 | deadcat | phin: patch your /etc/init.d/{rc,rcS} |
| 02:51.58 | phin | but it says that it cant find the VFS or something, and with fbsplash you need initrd for the image |
| 02:52.08 | Jarn | my arts control applet doesnt seem to be working with alsa |
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| 02:52.51 | deadcat | phin: deb http://www.bootsplash.de/files/debian unstable main |
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| 02:52.56 | nnnnnn | whats the package name for X11 in debian?.. |
| 02:52.58 | nnnnnn | x-server? |
| 02:53.06 | deadcat | nnnnnn: x-window-system-core |
| 02:53.13 | nnnnnn | thanks |
| 02:53.20 | phin | deadcat |
| 02:53.23 | phin | thats just the patch |
| 02:53.25 | phin | not a kernel image |
| 02:53.37 | deadcat | phin: you siad you have a kernel already |
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| 02:53.46 | phin | yes it failed thou |
| 02:53.49 | phin | hmm |
| 02:53.53 | deadcat | phin: then fix it. |
| 02:54.03 | phin | that would mean a rebuild |
| 02:54.06 | phin | its a vfs error |
| 02:54.08 | deadcat | no shit |
| 02:54.23 | phin | thou i added the controller, device drivers for the ide and the filesystems built in |
| 02:54.27 | phin | so i dunno why it failed |
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| 02:55.00 | abrotman | !moo |
| 02:55.00 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. |
| 02:55.43 | MobyTurbo | phin: your usage of "thou" and "dunno" makes you look even stupider than you are. |
| 02:55.45 | starscalling | hmm |
| 02:55.48 | p8m | i thought cows burped the methane |
| 02:55.51 | phin | heh |
| 02:55.54 | phin | ok |
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| 02:56.10 | starscalling | having consulted that bit from the tell thingie |
| 02:56.11 | deadcat | MobyTurbo: maybe hes from the medievel time? |
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| 02:56.38 | MobyTurbo | deadcat: I think thou dost protesth too much |
| 02:56.42 | smacnay | is mgetty-fax the equivalent to hylafax-server+client? |
| 02:56.55 | starscalling | it seems i dont have a /etc/fstab |
| 02:56.58 | starscalling | >.< |
| 02:57.05 | MobyTurbo | deadcat: s/I think/methinks/ |
| 02:57.06 | starscalling | to make a usb entry in |
| 02:57.17 | deadcat | MobyTurbo: (= yes sire. |
| 02:57.18 | starscalling | though i do have it partitioned |
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| 02:57.52 | MobyTurbo | deadcat: of course, strictly speaking, the Elisabethan period was not medieval. |
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| 02:58.39 | MobyTurbo | brb |
| 02:58.42 | deadcat | MobyTurbo: i should be ashame of myself, being a history major and all and NO clue what the hell you talking about |
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| 02:59.16 | WiFiTux | what program will run RealPlayer files, .rm? |
| 02:59.25 | deadcat | WiFiTux: mplayer xine |
| 02:59.26 | katya | kaffeine, mplayer, xine |
| 02:59.26 | p8m | ya, the middle ages ended in the 15th century right? |
| 02:59.42 | MobyTurbo | deadcat: the elisabethan period is around the time Queen Elisabeth I ruled over England, 17th century. |
| 02:59.44 | deadcat | kaffeine IS xine i believe |
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| 02:59.55 | deadcat | MobyTurbo: that i know (= |
| 03:00.03 | trentbuck | Marillat only has mplayer binaries for i386. Anywhere I can get them for powerpc? |
| 03:00.05 | katya | deadcat: then firefox IS gecko |
| 03:00.11 | deadcat | p8m: ~1300s |
| 03:00.15 | starscalling | crap :P |
| 03:00.22 | Wyzard | Is there a way, from a root shell, to run a program with permission to bind to ports below 1024, but no other root capabilities? |
| 03:00.22 | MobyTurbo | gtg, brb |
| 03:00.24 | starscalling | i even have sda and sda1 in my /dev |
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| 03:00.29 | deadcat | katya: arent they just front-end? |
| 03:00.39 | katya | deadcat: xine-ui is a frontend, for the xine engine |
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| 03:00.54 | p8m | deadcat: really? I thought it was around the time of Gutenberg, ~1450 |
| 03:00.56 | katya | so.. yeah, pretty much |
| 03:01.16 | bwlang | how do i disable the boot logo at the kernel boot prompt? video=vga:off (nor video=vga16:off) does not work |
| 03:01.17 | deadcat | p8m: according to my source. maybe we have diff sources |
| 03:01.43 | deadcat | bwlang: vga=off maybe? |
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| 03:02.00 | trentbuck | vga=normal, I've always used |
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| 03:02.50 | dasameog408 | can u download debian any other way then cd? |
| 03:02.56 | dondelelcaro | dasameog408: yes, you can. |
| 03:03.03 | dasameog408 | how? |
| 03:03.08 | dondelelcaro | dasameog408: see the install manual for a full list. |
| 03:03.14 | deadcat | dasameog408: jigdo |
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| 03:03.27 | dasameog408 | ill pay someone just for that |
| 03:03.36 | dondelelcaro | usb, ftp, nfs, http... the list goes on |
| 03:03.46 | deadcat | dasameog408: your $s no good here. |
| 03:03.50 | mwilson | dasameog408: You'lll pay someone, but you won't read for yourself? |
| 03:03.51 | dasameog408 | well i want to use either ftp or http |
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| 03:04.22 | mwilson | dasameog408: And...? |
| 03:04.24 | dondelelcaro | dasameog408: so get yourself a netinst image or a netinst usb flash drive or something that you can boot your machine, and install via http. |
| 03:04.33 | dondelelcaro | dasameog408: it's all documented in the install manual. |
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| 03:04.41 | dondelelcaro | !install manual |
| 03:04.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 03:04.43 | dondelelcaro | dasameog408: ^^^ |
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| 03:04.52 | bwlang | trentbuck: i think that's it... thanks |
| 03:05.03 | trentbuck | dasameog408: The "business card" install cd is about 30Mb. |
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| 03:05.15 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: You know how elitist we are for actually expecting him to read, of course. |
| 03:05.36 | deadcat | mwilson: hes gonna pay someone to read it. |
| 03:05.37 | deadcat | i bet |
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| 03:05.56 | dondelelcaro | we're elitist bastards... |
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| 03:06.18 | deadcat | mwilson: is it $$ to live in SD? |
| 03:06.38 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: Well, considering how few people can even read these days, it's actually pretty elitist to make that skill a requirement. |
| 03:06.44 | mwilson | deadcat: Yeah. |
| 03:06.44 | trentbuck | dondelelcaro: Every time you say that a newbie likes Gentoo :-) |
| 03:06.45 | danikata | hi all |
| 03:06.55 | deadcat | damn |
| 03:07.02 | dondelelcaro | trentbuck: I should say it more often then... |
| 03:07.03 | danikata | how to start cups service ? |
| 03:07.03 | mwilson | deadcat: Highest gas prices in the nation again this week, right here. |
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| 03:07.20 | mwilson | trentbuck: Who cares what newbies like? |
| 03:07.28 | deadcat | mwilson: damn. crazy man.. CA is too $$ |
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| 03:07.36 | ChompWizd | 91.7 a liter here for regular, just south of detroit |
| 03:07.39 | starscalling | ok |
| 03:07.42 | ChompWizd | whatever that is in american dollars :) |
| 03:07.45 | bwlang | trentbuck: nope... i still get tux up there... |
| 03:07.46 | starscalling | i found everything for the stupid usb thing |
| 03:08.01 | starscalling | just how do i edit that darn file to make a entry ? |
| 03:08.02 | stew | ChompWizd: they sell gas by the liter near detroit? |
| 03:08.17 | ChompWizd | stew: in windsor, yes :) |
| 03:09.03 | mwilson | deadcat: Yeah, it's not cheap. Fortunately, I have cheap tastes, so I'm OK. |
| 03:09.04 | ChompWizd | about 3 bucks a gallon for unleaded, if i calculated it right |
| 03:09.15 | deadcat | (= |
| 03:09.35 | ChompWizd | google calculator won't do "91.7 cents per liter in us dollars per gallon" |
| 03:09.36 | ChompWizd | heh. |
| 03:09.44 | starscalling | .. |
| 03:09.55 | starscalling | its about 4 of em |
| 03:10.07 | ChompWizd | maybe if i put some brackets in? :D |
| 03:10.21 | starscalling | im sorry to keep buggling all yall |
| 03:10.26 | shingouz | ChompWizd: 3.8 liters per gallon |
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| 03:10.30 | starscalling | but how do i edit that /etc/fstab file |
| 03:10.33 | starscalling | do add an entry? |
| 03:10.42 | Shamilton0360 | #mepis |
| 03:10.47 | deadcat | mwilson: it doesnt seem to give me a list of classes required for this major: http://arweb.sdsu.edu/es/admissions/ab/history.htm |
| 03:11.04 | cplx | fuel is so cheap in the us.. |
| 03:11.11 | cplx | stupid subsidization |
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| 03:11.33 | cplx | look at us here in aus, we pay what everyone else should be.. and we have the oil here |
| 03:11.43 | trentbuck | starscalling: you are trying to mount a usb key? |
| 03:11.52 | kasper | i've changed the login manager in /etc/X11/default-display-manager but still no dice do i need to change any other locates? |
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| 03:12.04 | bwlang | if i have video=vga16:off (which is what the deb manual says... but do i need something else in the kernel to make that effective? |
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| 03:12.53 | dasameog408 | can i like install via usb drive |
| 03:13.49 | trentbuck | dasameog408: If you can boot from the USB drive, yes. |
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| 03:14.28 | jefffo | hey, i want to make a server out of an old 200 mhz box. a webserver..will this suit my needs? |
| 03:14.41 | MarcosGG | hello, from argentina, i have a little problem with cache mem; i just want to decrease the amount of RAM used for cache operations |
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| 03:14.56 | zinx | MarcosGG: why the heck do you want to do that? |
| 03:15.22 | MarcosGG | jeje, zinx, it is dificult to say it in english... but i will try |
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| 03:16.00 | stew | MarcosGG: unless your answer is, "i want to make my machine slower" then you dont' want to decreace the memory used for cache |
| 03:16.02 | zinx | MarcosGG: the kernel discards the cache when an application needs the memory it's taking up |
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| 03:16.30 | zinx | MarcosGG: and cache helps quite a bit with disk access (i.e., not doing disk access, which is very slow) |
| 03:16.36 | MarcosGG | mi PC has 128 mb of RAM. Ok? well, 50mb are used in cache operations, so, i think that with less cache, the apps should run faster. |
| 03:16.45 | zinx | MarcosGG: you think wrong. |
| 03:16.52 | zinx | MarcosGG: the kernel discards the cache when an application needs the memory it's taking up |
| 03:17.09 | zinx | MarcosGG: your system will run slower if you lower the amount of cache. |
| 03:17.16 | MarcosGG | but, zinx, I must test diferent configurations to tune the system, this configuration is very generic |
| 03:17.33 | MarcosGG | zinx, I must try it. |
| 03:17.36 | jefffo | will a 200mhz cpu run debian as a webserver decently? |
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| 03:18.27 | zinx | MarcosGG: turn the 'swappiness' way down. (/proc/sys/vm/swappiness) |
| 03:18.31 | CompWizrd | jeffo: what's your intended load/connection? |
| 03:18.33 | zinx | MarcosGG: that's as close as you're going to get. |
| 03:18.34 | MarcosGG | and, zinx, my PC is not a server, it is used to make MUSIC, so, I need the ram to be free, and to be oriented to another things than cache. |
| 03:18.36 | cafuego | Fark |
| 03:18.53 | cafuego | And then the optus pacific link went dead... |
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| 03:18.56 | zinx | MarcosGG: like i said, THE RAM WILL BE GIVEN TO APPLICATIONS AS IT IS NEEDED BY APPLICATIONS |
| 03:19.00 | dds_ | so, I'm trying to fix this machine, right... |
| 03:19.12 | zinx | MarcosGG: If it's not needed, it is used as cache. Free ram is _WASTED_ ram. |
| 03:19.13 | dds_ | and it seems that most of the coreutils are corrupted |
| 03:19.18 | mwilson | MarcosGG: So, what you're saying is that you have no clue how memory management works, and aren't interested in being told, right? |
| 03:19.33 | tzafrir_laptop | Before I spend hours debugging mini-dinstall: any other reasonable alternative for maintaing a local apt source? |
| 03:19.35 | MarcosGG | wait just a moment please mwilsonm |
| 03:19.37 | MarcosGG | wait just a moment please mwilson |
| 03:19.40 | dds_ | they segfault, don't follow proper options, etc.. like cp, grep, mv, and ln |
| 03:19.50 | dds_ | I'm sitting in a sash |
| 03:19.50 | CompWizrd | marcosgg: ram usage in debian isn't like the way windows presents it |
| 03:20.11 | dds_ | I copy over some replacements from a known good machine, check that the md5sums are different before and after installation, and use them for a while.. |
| 03:20.13 | dds_ | everything's fine |
| 03:20.19 | dds_ | then I try to upgrade libc6 using apt |
| 03:20.22 | MarcosGG | aja, CompWizrd |
| 03:20.28 | dds_ | it fails (so far a variety of ways) |
| 03:20.51 | dds_ | but the really interesting thing is that after I'm done, those binaries have been reverted to the versions they were before I copied new ones over |
| 03:20.53 | mwilson | dds_: Why are you trying to replace your libc6? Other than trying to kill the machine, of course. |
| 03:21.07 | CompWizrd | i uninstalled libc6 once.. that was a fun machine to fix |
| 03:21.22 | dds_ | mwilson, the machine is already dead, I'm trying to figure out why all of the coreutils programs keep dying, just read the rest. |
| 03:21.22 | MarcosGG | i think tha i must try diferent configurations to obtain the results i need |
| 03:21.30 | mwilson | dds_: There are far easier ways to kill the machine. |
| 03:21.40 | zinx | MarcosGG: from the view of the application wanting more memory, you can see cache/buffers as being free. as soon as the application requests more memory, it will take it from the memory that is being used for cache/buffers |
| 03:21.48 | mwilson | MarcosGG: And we all think you need to leave things that you don't understand alone. |
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| 03:21.54 | zinx | MarcosGG: I think you need to listen to people that have more of a clue than you. |
| 03:22.13 | dds_ | mwilson, the machine is already dead. This whole problem started because the machine wouldn't boot. Apparently, whenever any startup script ran grep, grep would just print it's copyright information and hang. |
| 03:22.17 | MarcosGG | well, i am listening. |
| 03:22.31 | stew | MarcosGG: decreasing the amount of cache will make your machine slower, not faster |
| 03:22.35 | mwilson | MarcosGG: No, you're not listening, you're telling us all that we're wrong. We're not wrong. |
| 03:22.42 | cafuego | MarcosGG: No, you're not. You've been two THREE times already. |
| 03:22.46 | jetscreamer | america: it's not just a melting pot, it's a crockpot |
| 03:22.52 | dds_ | so, brought it up with init=/bin/sh and walked the person sitting at the machine through enough so I could ssh in, and have been inspecting from there. |
| 03:22.55 | dds_ | but |
| 03:23.06 | dds_ | why on earth would the binaries be reverting to these broken segfaulting ones |
| 03:23.16 | CompWizrd | dds: rootkit? |
| 03:23.19 | dds_ | I am thinking bad RAM, but even that doesn't explain this well. |
| 03:23.21 | cafuego | MarcosGG: Linux uses all you ram as cache. When an application needs ram, linux makes the cache smaller and gives the ram to the application. End of story. |
| 03:23.43 | zinx | dds_: get memtest86 :/ |
| 03:23.48 | dds_ | CompWizrd, that idea is lurking in the back of my mind but considering that this machine was sitting behind a firewall with the only accessible port being ssh... |
| 03:23.49 | cafuego | dds_: busted disk? |
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| 03:24.05 | dds_ | zinx, yeah, planning on that, just need to find a way to teach the gf to use dd to make the floppy ;) |
| 03:24.16 | zinx | dds_: hehe :) |
| 03:24.17 | dds_ | (I happen to be about 11,000 km away from this machine...?) |
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| 03:24.30 | dds_ | cafuego, possibly, but the disk was replaced roughly 8 months ago... |
| 03:24.33 | MarcosGG | cafuego, that is the short way of telling me how it works, thanks, it was not to get angry |
| 03:24.37 | zinx | dds_: actually, i think there's a script to make one |
| 03:24.43 | dds_ | cafuego, and if it was a busted disk, I would be seeing stuff in dmesg methinks... |
| 03:24.51 | dds_ | zinx, oh yeah, it writes directly to fd0 |
| 03:24.55 | zinx | dds_: in the memtest86+ package |
| 03:24.56 | stew | dds_: cp is easier than dd |
| 03:25.05 | cafuego | MarcosGG: Ram that isn't used by an application AND isn't used as cache is a waste. |
| 03:25.31 | dds_ | stew, true |
| 03:25.36 | dds_ | zinx, right right |
| 03:25.45 | dds_ | so, we'll run the memtest86 and see what happens |
| 03:25.52 | dds_ | but just the strangest thing... |
| 03:26.05 | MarcosGG | cafuego: I can understand perfectly that, but I just think tha I must try some things to see with my own eyes how them work |
| 03:26.20 | jefffo | compwizard, mabey light to medium traffick, with about 38k upstream. think an old 200 mhz box can run debain with apache reasobaly? |
| 03:26.25 | cafuego | MarcosGG: You can try all you like, it's just a waste of time <heh> |
| 03:26.28 | dds_ | I hate prematurely blaming hardware, but, damnit, if binaries are changing md5sums between invocations... I think busted libc6 or busted RAM (and that busted libc6 may be a rootkit) |
| 03:26.45 | zinx | dds_: you're not blaming it.. you're ruling it out.. |
| 03:26.54 | dds_ | zinx, yeah true |
| 03:26.58 | MarcosGG | for example, you are saying me, cafuego, that all PCs with Linux in the world must have the same configuration? |
| 03:27.07 | CompWizrd | jeffo: depends on what you're doing.. if it's straight static stuff, i wouldn't be surprised if that 200mhz machine can keep up with a t1 |
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| 03:27.22 | dds_ | (just getting the system up to the point that I have it now that I can ssh in and poke is so much work that rebooting seems like quitting) |
| 03:27.25 | CompWizrd | get into heavy databases and stuff, or something memory intensive, who knows |
| 03:28.05 | zignig | jefffo: if you are just serving static pages then sure , but php , database or zope(bleh) not so much. |
| 03:28.09 | stouset | Argh, this is getting aggravating. Within five minutes of booting, I start having a problem where every other second, the machine freezes, unfreezes, freezes, unfreezes. |
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| 03:28.37 | stouset | It makes me think that something which blocks every second is being polled. |
| 03:28.52 | stouset | This occurs in X and the console as well. |
| 03:29.06 | jefffo | compwizard thanks, its a site with news, and also it needs to be interactive, as in users can post thier thoughts in a "blog" type deal. dosent this need php/my sql? |
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| 03:30.24 | witless | how can i get my system to mount a usb hard disk automatically, both startup (when HD is present) and when it's plugged in? |
| 03:30.24 | dasameog408 | is there a miniinst |
| 03:31.11 | ethics | well you could put a script to mount the USB drive.......the hard part is getting it to fire automatically when hotplug finds it |
| 03:31.50 | stouset | Anyone have an idea what that might be? |
| 03:31.50 | stouset | It gets in the way of typing. |
| 03:31.59 | witless | ethics: yeah |
| 03:32.19 | stouset | For instance, if I try to type this sentence at normal speed: For ince, if I trype this senten tnormal speed |
| 03:32.42 | ysothoth | stouset: Check top |
| 03:32.55 | stouset | ysothoth: no luck there |
| 03:32.56 | mwilson | dasameog408: Still haven't read the installation guide, huh? |
| 03:33.10 | stouset | I think something is blocking; wouldn't be a CPU issue. |
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| 03:33.53 | MarcosGG | well, some one knows how to configure de cache by my self? |
| 03:33.57 | ethics | witless: perhaps you could make something like IFup/ifdown..... |
| 03:34.00 | dondelelcaro | stouset: there's almost nothing that could be blockign like that. |
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| 03:34.13 | cafuego | MarcosGG: As far as cache/rma use is concerned, pretty much. I bet the kernel developers know much better then you (or me) how to tweak it for performance. |
| 03:34.17 | dondelelcaro | stouset: you may have triggered some wierd kernel bug, or if you're using X, X is having issues. |
| 03:34.23 | ysothoth | stouset: If you remove gdm/xdm, so you get no x, does it still do it? |
| 03:34.32 | Agrajag- | hey all - is there a debianised way of install perl modules that are on cpan that aren't packaged? |
| 03:34.41 | stouset | ysothoth: aye |
| 03:34.42 | dondelelcaro | Agrajag-: yes. dh-make-perl |
| 03:34.47 | Agrajag- | great, ta |
| 03:34.49 | MarcosGG | yes, cafuego, i agree |
| 03:34.49 | ysothoth | stouset: Are you using a standard debian kernel image? |
| 03:34.57 | stouset | don: it's not X, if I quit X same problem |
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| 03:35.02 | stouset | ysothoth: aye |
| 03:35.03 | zinx | MarcosGG: there are tweakable things in /proc/sys/vm/, if you really must. |
| 03:35.13 | dondelelcaro | Agrajag-: ala: apt-get install dh-make-perl build-essential fakeroot; dh-make-perl --build --cpan Foo::Bar; |
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| 03:35.22 | mtrujillo | hola |
| 03:35.29 | mtrujillo | como estan? |
| 03:35.33 | MarcosGG | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:35.35 | dondelelcaro | !spanish |
| 03:35.35 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:35.36 | ysothoth | stouset: Anything plugged into your computer like usb, firewire devices? |
| 03:35.37 | MarcosGG | 25 50 |
| 03:35.37 | MarcosGG | , show that |
| 03:35.42 | stouset | dondelelcaro: I'm stopping daemons but no luck |
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| 03:35.44 | mtrujillo | hello |
| 03:35.48 | stouset | ysothoth: nothing |
| 03:35.53 | ysothoth | man |
| 03:36.01 | ethics | witless: when hotplug finds USB devices it pumps out a message in syslog or somewhere.....maybe you could mod hotplug to fire a script after it finds a USBFS device or something |
| 03:36.12 | cafuego | MarcosGG: So now you get to spend 2 days reading what they are and what twekaing them does. |
| 03:36.15 | dondelelcaro | stouset: it's almost impossible for anything but the kernel or hardware to be causing that type of issue. |
| 03:36.35 | dondelelcaro | stouset: so either change kernel versions, or check out your hardware. |
| 03:36.43 | MarcosGG | yes, i do not want to disturb you, I just come here because I dont find anithing in man pages, sorry |
| 03:36.43 | ysothoth | I am going to have to agree, you may have really bizarre hardware |
| 03:36.56 | witless | ethics: thx. reading hotplug site now |
| 03:36.56 | stouset | dondelelcaro: tha =\ |
| 03:37.03 | stouset | dondelelcaro: thanks =\ |
| 03:37.45 | dondelelcaro | np |
| 03:37.54 | ethics | witless: NP there must be a way to do it because magic can see cameras from hotplug automatically i think |
| 03:38.03 | MarcosGG | cafuego, do you know some music made just with GNU/Linux? |
| 03:38.07 | ysothoth | Install the 386 version of the kernel image if you are using the 686/k7/etc ones |
| 03:38.09 | starscalling | what if |
| 03:38.18 | starscalling | you have the usb drives partitioned and all |
| 03:38.23 | starscalling | just there is no entry in um |
| 03:38.33 | mtrujillo | hello |
| 03:38.40 | starscalling | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.42 | starscalling | mount: can't find /mnt/usb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 03:38.44 | starscalling | hello :P |
| 03:38.52 | stew | witless: you can drop a script in /etc/hotplug/usb |
| 03:39.35 | ethics | stew,witless: yeah thats where magic endsup i think |
| 03:40.09 | stew | ethics: read the docs in /usr/share/doc/hotplug |
| 03:40.10 | mtrujillo | what is the best fronend to firewall in iptables?????? |
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| 03:40.20 | mwilson | mtrujillo: Define "best". |
| 03:40.24 | mtrujillo | for debian |
| 03:40.41 | soto | mtrujillo scripts |
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| 03:41.01 | ethics | mtrujillo: alot use firestarter but if your getting beyond the basics scripts are the go |
| 03:41.07 | mwilson | mtrujillo: Again, define "best". |
| 03:41.15 | cafuego | MarcosGG: /dev/urandom is full of music |
| 03:41.34 | mtrujillo | the best one |
| 03:41.38 | starscalling | well crap |
| 03:41.39 | ysothoth | Heh... all this time I thougt there was an init.d/iptables script in debian but apparently I just picked that up from someplace else |
| 03:41.40 | deadcat | ya. /dev/urandom was playing "damn it feels good to be a gangsta" last time. |
| 03:41.54 | ethics | mtrujillo: the BEST one is the one that does the job you need... |
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| 03:42.05 | Bac9 | ysothoth: it's in one of the packages |
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| 03:42.17 | mwilson | mtrujillo: Apparently you don't have any idea what the word "define" means. |
| 03:42.17 | ryan` | ysothoth: it's in the iptables package.... |
| 03:42.31 | ryan` | ysothoth: It begs you not to use it though. |
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| 03:42.47 | mtrujillo | ok |
| 03:42.53 | ethics | mtrujillo: what do you need to do? |
| 03:43.07 | MarcosGG | yes, cafuego, but it is just pi pit |
| 03:43.08 | ysothoth | ryan`: Must be in examples then. |
| 03:43.10 | mtrujillo | thanks |
| 03:43.25 | danikata | how to activate cups service ? |
| 03:43.39 | cafuego | danikata: /etc/init.d/cupsys start |
| 03:43.51 | ethics | danikata /etc/init.d/cupsd start |
| 03:43.58 | mtrujillo | better I follow with my project |
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| 03:44.02 | ryan` | ysothoth: it doesn't install itself as /etc/init.d/iptables by default. |
| 03:44.08 | ysothoth | ryan`: Gotcha. |
| 03:44.14 | zignig | ryan`: not any more. |
| 03:44.21 | zignig | ryan`: its in iptables doc. |
| 03:44.27 | zignig | ryan`: for sarge anyway |
| 03:44.29 | ryan` | in sarge? |
| 03:44.31 | themusicgod1 | I have observed that kcontrol crashes under predictable conditions (when certain 'modules'(?) of which I have a list of are clicked). I have looked through the bug list (it's a big one), and I'm pretty sure the condition is not there, and I have recently upgraded kcontrol through dselect. Is there a reason why not to send a bugreport, and if not is there anything outside of reinstalling kde (ugh) that can be done to aid the tracking down of the bug |
| 03:44.33 | danikata | ok thk cafuego, ethics |
| 03:44.33 | TypeRite | Hi. I'm setting up a new server and need some things in Sarge that Woody doesn't have. I actually use Sid on my laptop and have no problems with it, but am not so sure how manageable that will be as the number of servers I maintain grows. If I decide to use Sarge, does it get security updates as decently as Woody and Sid do, even while it's not (yet) the stable branch? |
| 03:44.43 | Kupal[]__ | operator: you know where the mozilla team meets? or mozilla freaks? |
| 03:44.45 | ryan` | any of you use ipsec under 2.6? |
| 03:45.00 | ryan` | or know where i could get some help with it on irc? |
| 03:45.04 | deadcat | Kupal[]__: mission district in SF. |
| 03:45.05 | ysothoth | TypeRite: Sarge won't get security updates regularly until it is tagged stable |
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| 03:45.19 | ysothoth | TypeRite: So ya takes ya chances. |
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| 03:45.37 | WiFiTux | Has someone heard of a Looking Glass beta... Would be cool to have it running on debian. |
| 03:45.51 | trentbuck | WiFiTux: IIRC you have to build it from sources. |
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| 03:45.56 | Kupal[]__ | ryan`: ipsec is tough.. ppl who know it don't wanna talk about cause it takes an iq of 175 to truly understand it. Then it takes alinux grun (iq of 130+ w/ cofee addiction) to deploy it. |
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| 03:46.01 | trentbuck | Go to the dev page off the main Looking Glass site. |
| 03:46.02 | mtrujillo | I want to mount firewall like service |
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| 03:46.22 | ryan` | Kupal[]__: I have it working. |
| 03:46.23 | WiFiTux | trentbuck, I don't see it there. Is it alrady available??? |
| 03:46.26 | Kupal[]__ | ryan: find a guide, goto the library spend 4 weeks on it. Or use openvpn and tun devices. |
| 03:46.29 | Kupal[]__ | ryan your smart. |
| 03:46.34 | ryan` | Kupal[]__: BUT... |
| 03:46.34 | ethics | TypeRite: having said that Sarge is commonly used as the current release..stable should be just around the corner.. |
| 03:46.40 | TypeRite | Okay. Does anyone here maintain many (hrmm... does 10 count as many?) production servers running Sid? Any tips on how to manage a setup like that? |
| 03:46.42 | themusicgod1 | Kupal[]__: what kind of modifier are you suggesting a coffee addiction has on intelligence there ? :D |
| 03:46.47 | ryan` | Kupal[]__: it stops working when I enable ipcomp |
| 03:46.49 | Kupal[]__ | ryan you use Im at all? |
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| 03:46.54 | Kupal[]__ | none. |
| 03:46.57 | ethics | <-----: got ipsec working right |
| 03:47.05 | Kupal[]__ | So did i on some ciscos. |
| 03:47.12 | Kupal[]__ | but did you understand it.. or did you do it? |
| 03:47.14 | ryan` | kaplanfx, Ryan Castellucci on aim. |
| 03:47.15 | trentbuck | WiFiTux: I can't recall. I lost interest when I looked at the Java dependencies. |
| 03:47.26 | ysothoth | TypeRite: You might not want to use sid |
| 03:47.27 | danikata | it can't .. the message is : bash: /etc/init.d/cupsd: No such file or directory |
| 03:47.45 | Kupal[]__ | i got masq working and done some iptables tricks, yet i shouldn't instruct anyone on it. |
| 03:47.46 | WiFiTux | trentbuck, dependencies? Well is not only to install Java plugins? |
| 03:47.50 | mwilson | danikata: Considered installing it before you try to use it? |
| 03:48.15 | WiFiTux | trentbuck, make-jpkg? |
| 03:48.23 | mtrujillo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:48.23 | ethics | Kupal: whats to understand.....public key, private key....... roadwarrior mode is quirky in early versions but all worked well enough....about a year ago i did that last tho |
| 03:48.24 | danikata | how to install cups ? im newbie.. ill try to apt-get install cups |
| 03:48.29 | Kupal[]__ | ryan`: just added you. |
| 03:48.55 | ryan` | Kupal[]__, ANyway. I set it up on 2.6 under racoon in about an hour, but when I use compression, it fails to decompress my packets. |
| 03:49.01 | simonrvn | danikata: cupsys |
| 03:49.05 | ethics | danikata: apt-cache search cups gives you the apt-getinstall names |
| 03:49.13 | mtrujillo | somebody knows ferm |
| 03:49.15 | trentbuck | WiFiTux: make-jpkg? I can't see it in my sarge repository. |
| 03:49.17 | simonrvn | danikata: probably want cupsys-client too |
| 03:49.21 | ryan` | kinda confusing, compression works, decompression doesn't :/ |
| 03:49.26 | ethics | danikata: i think all you want is under cupsys |
| 03:49.33 | Kupal[]__ | ethics.. yeah but did you setup a CA? your running ipsec. but your really couldn't goto a windows box and set it up. now if you KNEW it you could .. Just as if it where DNS cause an A record is an A record and PKI chain is a PKI chain. |
| 03:49.34 | simonrvn | ethics: they're called package names |
| 03:49.43 | Kupal[]__ | anyone lets not troll. i won't continue. |
| 03:49.48 | WiFiTux | trentbuck, Installing java is as easy as doing make-jpkg javadownload.bin and done. |
| 03:49.50 | Kupal[]__ | err tired. i mean anyhow. |
| 03:50.16 | ryan` | Kupal[]__: my application does not require speaking with windows. |
| 03:50.34 | WiFiTux | trentbuck, apt-get install java-package |
| 03:50.50 | trentbuck | WiFiTux: I use the blackdown version when I have to... |
| 03:50.51 | Kupal[]__ | danikata or do apt-get install `apt-cache search cups | awk {'print $1'}` and watch me laugh as you put apt through hell downloading bloat. |
| 03:50.53 | ryan` | so I don't really care. |
| 03:50.59 | trentbuck | WiFiTux: But the fact is that I just plain don't like Java. |
| 03:51.05 | WiFiTux | trentbuck, oh, so do you recall on where was the source? |
| 03:51.06 | kingsley | Which linux command, if any, will report the parameters defining a Microsoft Windows file system? (For example, whether it's FAT16 or FAT32, how big it is, etc...) |
| 03:51.10 | trentbuck | WiFiTux: The doc you wanted was LC_COLLATE=C |
| 03:51.11 | trentbuck | export LC_COLLATE |
| 03:51.18 | trentbuck | Whoops, wrong cut buffer. |
| 03:51.28 | WiFiTux | trentbuck, Java is heavy, yeah. |
| 03:51.37 | Kupal[]__ | ryan`: its not my point. My point is, the guy your looking for doesn't exist cause you will get someone who will wanna change your whole conf to match his. you will walk backwards and not really know it.. but very cool either way man.. |
| 03:51.42 | trentbuck | WiFiTux: https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/lg3d-getting-started.html |
| 03:51.45 | Kupal[]__ | im a pestimest tonight.. sorry.. i will stfu. |
| 03:51.51 | ryan` | heh |
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| 03:53.27 | Kupal[]__ | well im goign to bed. i need to find someone that can answer a M$ enviroment question it being: anyone know if t-bird on ntfs has issues with mbox sizes, or a client that will use maildir style folders so one doesn't need to worry about profile sizes. after all these workstations have fucking 20gb of free storages and our problem is grossely annoying. |
| 03:54.02 | trentbuck | Sylpheed uses MH mailboxes. You can get it on Windows. |
| 03:54.03 | poonj | hey guys.. |
| 03:54.12 | poonj | I am trying to set the default printer for cups... |
| 03:54.21 | Kupal[]__ | WiFiTux: check out java is doomed on sourceforge, opengl using java., |
| 03:54.36 | poonj | lpadmin -d <printer>. However, when I print using lpr, its still using my other printer instead. what am I doing wrong? |
| 03:54.49 | trentbuck | Kupal[]__: what project on SF? |
| 03:55.29 | danikata | there is cupsys in my system |
| 03:55.44 | danikata | but i still can activate |
| 03:55.53 | danikata | i cant activate |
| 03:56.16 | Kupal[]__ | javaisdoomed.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:56.19 | themusicgod1 | prboom causes me motion sickness. Is this a user/meatware error? |
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| 03:56.49 | Kupal[]__ | a ./ ed announcement regarding a java code zoo. http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/05/2130207&from=rss |
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| 03:57.45 | mwilson | poonj: Using lpr instead of lp? |
| 03:58.04 | poonj | mwilson: yeah.. |
| 03:58.08 | poonj | use lp? |
| 03:58.11 | Kupal[]__ | mwilson: hi :) |
| 03:58.23 | Kupal[]__ | thomas_adam: been awhile your prolly not there. Just saing hi .. :) |
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| 03:58.30 | mwilson | poonj: Having a PRINTER variable set to other than where you think the output should go? |
| 03:58.43 | thomas_adam | Kupal[]__: Err... |
| 03:58.49 | thomas_adam | Kupal[]__: Remind me who you are? |
| 03:58.50 | poonj | I didn't set it.. |
| 03:58.54 | Kupal[]__ | thomas_adam: kerpal |
| 03:59.02 | thomas_adam | Ah, right. Hello. :) |
| 03:59.03 | poonj | setenv PRINTER <printer>? |
| 03:59.05 | Kupal[]__ | thomas_adam: cheerio :) |
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| 03:59.34 | Kupal[]__ | thomas_adam: you know about ipsec pretty heavy right? |
| 03:59.49 | thomas_adam | Kupal[]__: No more so than Smoothwall or ipcop. |
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| 04:00.18 | Kupal[]__ | okay doke, ryan` was asking about something.. figured you be one of the few who knew. |
| 04:00.18 | thomas_adam | Kupal[]__: Much of a muchness, as with anything. |
| 04:00.20 | mwilson | poonj: Using lpadmin instead of lpoptions to set the default printer? |
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| 04:00.29 | mwilson | poonj: I can read, you see. |
| 04:00.42 | danikata | how to see or edit services in debian ? |
| 04:00.49 | Starbane | is there a decent doc out there for sasl+pam-mysql on Debian out there? Seems like every time I have to set up sasl on Debian, something else is broken. |
| 04:01.04 | Kupal[]__ | thomas_adam: more than anything IMHO, its sad its prolly why is so damn secure. security through confusion. well im going to bed. just wanted to shout out. |
| 04:01.20 | poonj | mwilson: I was using lpadmin because I thought I could set it to be system wide rather than for the user |
| 04:01.21 | starscalling | omg! |
| 04:01.28 | thomas_adam | danikata: rcconf, most likely. |
| 04:01.44 | mwilson | poonj: You can. And then the user can set a different one and the user's configuration wins. |
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| 04:02.02 | poonj | according to the man page...if you feel I didn't read...says that after setting the default printer, I could use another printer using lpoptions |
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| 04:02.12 | poonj | anyhow.. |
| 04:02.14 | mwilson | poonj: Since you give zero details, I'm just free-associating things that could be causing your problem. That's what you wanted, right? Someone to guess? |
| 04:02.27 | danikata | how thomas_adam ? im new bie |
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| 04:02.44 | thomas_adam | danikata: No, you mor on. apt-cache search rcconf. |
| 04:02.44 | poonj | mwilson: I'm sorry for not being clear on the problem |
| 04:02.49 | poonj | anyhow...thanks for the tips |
| 04:03.00 | dasameog408 | any1 know if i have to change bios to boot from usb disk |
| 04:03.26 | mwilson | It's amazing how many people will tell you they're newbies in one breath, and in the next breath tell you they think they have some sort of business making $RANDOM_CONFIGURATION_CHANGE to the box. |
| 04:03.32 | trentbuck | dasameog408: Probably. It varies between bioses. |
| 04:03.41 | dasameog408 | oh |
| 04:04.04 | dasameog408 | well does any1 know how to do it |
| 04:04.09 | saslsucks | AH! That's what I was missing. ./configure sasl --with-${RANDOMCRAP} |
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| 04:04.36 | mwilson | dasameog408: You'll have to wait until "any1" joins the channel. He's not here right now. |
| 04:04.57 | zinx | mwilson: but omg i can make my box run better just tell me how to change it!@#! |
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| 04:05.04 | mwilson | dasameog408: What did you not understand about "it varies between BIOSes"? |
| 04:05.36 | saslsucks | dasameog408: Exactly what model PC/MB are we talking about here? |
| 04:06.01 | Lonny | hey....I am having trouble getting my network interfaces up |
| 04:06.24 | Lonny | whenever I try to put them up, I get .. |
| 04:06.27 | Lonny | ...1 second |
| 04:06.28 | dasameog408 | any1 know a good place to get this iso |
| 04:06.38 | dasameog408 | linuxiso.org is sloww |
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| 04:07.08 | Lonny | ok, I get 'interface name is to long' |
| 04:07.13 | Lonny | anyone know what is wrong? |
| 04:07.21 | thomas_adam | It's not even Sunday, yet... |
| 04:07.28 | bluefox83 | how do i find out my resolution? ( i removed all the possible settings in X cus it said it'd use th ehighest possible resolution) |
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| 04:07.47 | thomas_adam | bluefox83: xwininfo / xrandr | grep ^* |
| 04:08.39 | starscalling | oh my\ |
| 04:08.44 | bluefox83 | thomas_adam, that didn't work..just gave me a list of options.. |
| 04:08.53 | trentbuck | xwininfo -root | grep Width\\\|Height |
| 04:08.56 | starscalling | if only i could edit my little /etc/fstab so my usb would work >.< |
| 04:09.07 | danikata | thk thomas_adam.. i success |
| 04:09.17 | mwilson | starscalling: What would the one have to do with the other? |
| 04:09.18 | thomas_adam | danikata: Well done. |
| 04:10.08 | thomas_adam | bluefox83: I should have known, given your track record, you wouldn't have read 'man xwininfo'... |
| 04:10.41 | bluefox83 | thomas_adam, i can't really read it..i can *barely* read whats in here |
| 04:10.56 | thomas_adam | bluefox83: Why's that? |
| 04:10.56 | danikata | thomas_adam : now i work with debian that i installed in different pc (home pc).. and i using it in office pc. in other word i use same harddrive on different pc, its work fine |
| 04:11.12 | thomas_adam | danikata: ... so? |
| 04:11.16 | danikata | i only reconfigure x server |
| 04:11.18 | bluefox83 | thomas_adam, i dunno, everything is pretty blurry and the text is really thin |
| 04:11.25 | danikata | isn it ok ? |
| 04:11.29 | thomas_adam | bluefox83: Get some glasses. |
| 04:11.34 | thomas_adam | danikata: I don't understand what you're asking me. |
| 04:11.37 | danikata | or i just lucky ? |
| 04:11.42 | trentbuck | bluefox83: If you're in an xterm, do Shift + Keypad_Plus |
| 04:11.43 | bluefox83 | thomas_adam, i have a 19" lcd monitor, it shuldn't look like this!!!! |
| 04:11.55 | bluefox83 | *shouldn't |
| 04:12.23 | thomas_adam | bluefox83: Let me guess -- you had a CRT monitor before your LCD one, and just swapped them over, and didn't bother to reconfigure X11.... |
| 04:12.42 | mwilson | What does the size of the monitor have to do with it? |
| 04:12.54 | bluefox83 | thomas_adam, actually i did reconfigure x |
| 04:12.54 | mwilson | bluefox83: What is the native resolution of the monitor? |
| 04:13.07 | bluefox83 | 1280x1024 |
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| 04:13.59 | danikata | is that ok that i use debian from my harddrive that i usually move and using it into one pc to another ? |
| 04:14.21 | thomas_adam | danikata: It deoends. |
| 04:14.23 | mwilson | It's a 19" LCD, and the native resolution is only 1280x1024? Why do I find that unlikely? |
| 04:14.31 | danikata | depends on what ? |
| 04:14.38 | bluefox83 | i have the box right in front of me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:14.50 | thomas_adam | !tell bluefox83 -about punctuation |
| 04:14.53 | bluefox83 | says max. resolution 1280x1024 |
| 04:16.45 | mwilson | I didn't ask you what the max was, I asked you what the native resolution was. |
| 04:17.31 | trentbuck | mwilson: It's true. I had to buy a 21" LCD to get "1600x1200 supported" on the box. |
| 04:17.33 | deadcat | mwilson: doesnt seem like links has -g unless you compile it yourself. -g is in links2 |
| 04:17.48 | random0ne | Greetings. Can anyone point me to a multi-host ping program (like fping or poing). I am looking for something that displays ping statistics like mtr, but without a traceroute. Thank you. |
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| 04:19.35 | jbAU | is this request tracker? |
| 04:19.44 | deadcat | no |
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| 04:19.46 | danikata | thomas_adam : i want to get my debian home system always update, and i didn have internet connection in home. so i bring and install my debian harddrive to office, isnt it become problem for me ? |
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| 04:20.11 | jbAU | hi all, anyone had much experience with request tracker? i just want to know something about sending e-mails to the rt server... |
| 04:20.20 | danikata | sorry thomas... im difficult to tell in english |
| 04:20.20 | thomas_adam | danikata: Why not use apt-zip or apt-move ? |
| 04:20.35 | danikata | apt-zip ? |
| 04:20.53 | thomas_adam | danikata: apt-cache show apt-zip |
| 04:20.54 | hairy_potter | danikata: it might. depending on how the BIOS settings, IDE settings differ from office to home |
| 04:20.57 | danikata | could u goive me an example ? |
| 04:21.05 | thomas_adam | danikata: I am not your donkey. |
| 04:21.11 | Solet | how is the x server config error "screen(s) found but none have usable configuration" fixed? |
| 04:21.21 | thomas_adam | Solet: Christ. |
| 04:21.23 | jbAU | danikata: apt-cache search apt-zip |
| 04:21.26 | danikata | sorry thomas |
| 04:21.33 | thomas_adam | jbAU: No. |
| 04:21.37 | thomas_adam | jbAU: See above. |
| 04:21.53 | jbAU | thomas_adam: duly noted |
| 04:21.53 | thomas_adam | Solet: /msg dpkg no screens found |
| 04:22.13 | CompWizrd | most 17 and 19" lcd's are 1280x1024, yes |
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| 04:22.24 | CompWizrd | 19" lcd is nice for old people who can't see small stuff :) |
| 04:22.44 | CompWizrd | most of the 20 and 21" i've seen are 1600x1200, dell has a lovely 24" that's 1920x1200 |
| 04:23.01 | mexcore | quick question i cant get debian to install on this box i have and the only thing i can get to install on it for some reason is fc3 and i really hate redhat i cant even get windows to install on it anyway to do a image install of debian? |
| 04:23.22 | thomas_adam | mexcore: /ms dpkg d-i |
| 04:23.23 | deadcat | CompWizrd: would be hard to find a decent background image (= |
| 04:23.29 | Solet | thomas_adam: that was the (EE) message! |
| 04:23.35 | thomas_adam | Solet: I know! |
| 04:23.39 | CompWizrd | deadcat: if i had a dell 2405fpw, i wouldn't complain about the background image problem :) |
| 04:23.41 | mexcore | thomas /ms? |
| 04:23.41 | Solet | and thats the only (EE) msg in that log |
| 04:23.48 | thomas_adam | mexcore: /msg |
| 04:23.48 | deadcat | CompWizrd: true i guess heheh |
| 04:23.51 | starscalling | um |
| 04:23.51 | mexcore | ahh |
| 04:23.52 | CompWizrd | it supports video in as well.. composite, component and svideo |
| 04:23.57 | CompWizrd | it can do picture in picture, and picture by picture |
| 04:24.04 | Solet | the bot says look at the log for more info... and there isnt anymore info |
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| 04:24.11 | thomas_adam | mexcore: Any problems you get with that, ask in #debian-boot |
| 04:24.20 | thomas_adam | Solet: Lying is bad. |
| 04:24.34 | thomas_adam | Solet: Did Mummy not tell you that? |
| 04:24.59 | trentbuck | thomas_adam: what about harping? |
| 04:25.19 | thomas_adam | trentbuck: Hmm? |
| 04:25.34 | trentbuck | nm, my puns are playing up. |
| 04:26.05 | thomas_adam | trentbuck: Or just idiosyncratic. |
| 04:26.28 | daffy-pkf | lo |
| 04:26.33 | thomas_adam | eth0 |
| 04:26.46 | daffy-pkf | ^^ |
| 04:26.52 | CompWizrd | irc would work so much nicer if it was token ring |
| 04:26.57 | CompWizrd | instead of collisions like ethernet |
| 04:27.43 | trentbuck | CompWizrd: I thought IRC was application-level? |
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| 04:28.31 | daffy-pkf | did someone here followed the linux from scratch installation? can i use a debian kernel image without any problem? |
| 04:28.32 | CompWizrd | i blame thomas_adam for this. |
| 04:28.37 | kaplanfx | damn aptitude can be dangerous sometimes |
| 04:28.44 | thomas_adam | CompWizrd: No, your definitions are all fucked. |
| 04:28.48 | CompWizrd | you started it! |
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| 04:29.14 | CompWizrd | i guess channels are VLAN's |
| 04:29.16 | thomas_adam | kaplanfx: To the clueless, yes. |
| 04:30.23 | kaplanfx | thomas_adam: well in this case it wanted to remove some core packages, but it didn't give me a list. Lucky I caught it |
| 04:30.30 | kaplanfx | apt-get didn't want to do the same |
| 04:31.24 | starbane | Turns out something broken in Debian sarge sasl packages. Back to the compiler, I guess. |
| 04:31.30 | starbane | Might as well run slack at this point. |
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| 04:32.44 | dondelelcaro | starbane: so file a bug already. |
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| 04:37.00 | jbAU | starbane: what ver of sasl are you using? |
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| 04:38.34 | starbane | dondelelcaro: It's already in and 240 days old. |
| 04:38.38 | Solet | could any of the 'modules' i have to select inthe xserver configuration prgm be the reason my xserver wont start? |
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| 04:40.23 | bluefox83 | ok, changing the config file didn't help |
| 04:40.31 | bluefox83 | how do i fix my resolution? |
| 04:40.55 | marinos | bluefox83: in what ? |
| 04:41.00 | bluefox83 | X |
| 04:41.17 | marinos | edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.orig |
| 04:41.21 | marinos | edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 04:41.25 | bluefox83 | already did |
| 04:41.43 | bluefox83 | anymore ideas? |
| 04:41.50 | marinos | probably not correct |
| 04:42.10 | bluefox83 | i set the resolution my new monitor's manual suggests |
| 04:42.42 | bluefox83 | this is nuts, there has to be an easier way to do this.. |
| 04:42.42 | marinos | hod did you do that ? |
| 04:42.54 | marinos | did you restart X ? |
| 04:42.58 | bluefox83 | i opened it in an editor (vi) and changed it |
| 04:43.05 | bluefox83 | of course i restarted X |
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| 04:43.25 | marinos | ynd did you changed in the correct place |
| 04:43.39 | bluefox83 | evidentally not.. |
| 04:43.46 | deadcat | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 maybe |
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| 04:44.05 | ethics | <marinos> Bluefox83: isnt there a apt-reconfigure that does the whole thing again? |
| 04:44.20 | ethics | yeah that souns right |
| 04:44.21 | marinos | i mean if you have DefaultDepth 24 go to SubSection "Display" with Depth 16 |
| 04:44.37 | marinos | err Depth 24 |
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| 04:44.48 | bluefox83 | i have tons of those in there.. |
| 04:45.05 | marinos | either xorrect all |
| 04:45.15 | bluefox83 | 1 4 8 15 16 and 24 |
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| 04:46.04 | marinos | actually you (mostly) wont use 1 4 8 15 |
| 04:46.10 | marinos | so you can delete them |
| 04:46.53 | marinos | but somewhere in the primary section there must be something sayin DefaultDepth ... |
| 04:46.53 | peabody_ | Anyone got a good explanation for why [ (number of blocks file takes on disk) * (IO block size) - (actual file size) = (disparity over 1 block in size) ]? |
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| 04:47.13 | marinos | heh |
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| 04:48.03 | libben | how do i change my resolution by command line ? |
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| 04:48.20 | bluefox83 | what should i set the section "screen" monitor thing too? |
| 04:48.28 | bluefox83 | default monitor? |
| 04:48.39 | Solet | where should XF86Config be saved? |
| 04:48.53 | bluefox83 | /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 04:49.23 | bluefox83 | ok, going to try and see if i fixed it..wish me luck >.> |
| 04:49.29 | marinos | Solet: actually there are various places |
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| 04:50.00 | libben | I need to change my resolution by commandline... what aplication to use |
| 04:50.03 | marinos | Solet: man XF86Config-4 |
| 04:50.14 | Mitsui_Sam | hi! |
| 04:50.15 | Mitsui_Sam | can anybody gimme a help? I have compiled my qmail following qmailrocks.org, i using smtp auth with TLS, i have complied my vpopmail with --enable-roaming-users and time for roaming, but I can send mail yet, if I put my IP at tcp.smtp and run qmailctl cdb I can send it, can anybody? |
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| 04:50.36 | bluefox83 | ok, i wrote to it, and it's still crappy? |
| 04:50.41 | bluefox83 | -? |
| 04:50.50 | bluefox83 | any ideas? |
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| 04:51.59 | witigonen | Hey all, I have a quick question. I've got a ghost of myself ssh'd into my server, how can I disconnect it? |
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| 04:52.28 | bluefox83 | witigonen, kill the pid |
| 04:52.31 | drp | kill |
| 04:52.36 | drp | yeah what he said |
| 04:52.40 | bluefox83 | ;) |
| 04:52.50 | anan | what? |
| 04:53.36 | marinos | bluefox83: what exact change did you did ? |
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| 04:54.10 | anan | how is everyone? |
| 04:54.16 | bluefox83 | marinos, i removed 1 4 and 8 and changed the remaining depth resolutions to 1280x1024 |
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| 04:54.37 | bluefox83 | should i run something after that? |
| 04:54.59 | libben | I need to change my resolution by commandline... what aplication to use |
| 04:55.00 | marinos | you have to put in as first Modes "1280x1024" |
| 04:55.25 | marinos | do you have a larger resolution behind ?? |
| 04:55.28 | anan | check |
| 04:55.49 | marinos | you dont have to run anything |
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| 04:55.58 | anan | how to set input font size? |
| 04:56.10 | mwilson | "input font size"? |
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| 04:56.26 | bluefox83 | marinos, what do you mean, first modes? |
| 04:56.37 | anan | ye, size of the font that you key in |
| 04:56.38 | bluefox83 | should i set something as a smaller resolution behind it? |
| 04:56.49 | nagual | anyone know if there is a linuxdriver for http://www.sweex.com/product.asp?pid=83 and what its called/where to find it? |
| 04:56.55 | marinos | if you have other modes: Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" |
| 04:57.04 | bluefox83 | it works for all of those.. |
| 04:57.04 | marinos | you can set them behind them |
| 04:57.16 | Solet | whats the command to save a file in vim? |
| 04:57.17 | mwilson | anan: "key in"... in what? |
| 04:57.21 | mwilson | Solet: :w |
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| 04:57.31 | witigonen | bluefox83: I'm sorry, I can't find the appropriate pid browsing through top. Is there a better way to find it? |
| 04:57.43 | marinos | bluefox83: perhaps the driver doesnt supports more |
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| 04:58.21 | simonrvn | witigonen: ps auxw | grep whatever |
| 04:58.27 | bluefox83 | witigonen, if there's no pid, then there's no ghost :) |
| 04:58.38 | simonrvn | or psgrep, or pgrep, or... |
| 04:58.51 | bluefox83 | marinos, it's a nvidia driver, of course it supports more! |
| 04:59.13 | marinos | the XFree86 nv driver for example doesnt supports as much as the nvidia |
| 04:59.19 | witigonen | Well, when I do a 'who' I see that I am still connected, even though that session has been closed - I moved wifi zones, so it's still there when I do who under the old zone and with the time connected of when I originally did so. |
| 04:59.20 | marinos | driver |
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| 04:59.34 | bluefox83 | i compiled the nvidia driver in, i'm not using the default nv one |
| 04:59.41 | marinos | ok |
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| 05:00.04 | marinos | bluefox83: i cant know that you know |
| 05:00.22 | anan | ??? |
| 05:00.25 | bluefox83 | Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" <--does that look right? |
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| 05:00.51 | marinos | yes |
| 05:01.00 | bluefox83 | k, i'm going to try that.. |
| 05:02.40 | WiFiTux | OT someone has an Ipod Shuffle here? |
| 05:03.17 | anan | how come you guys msgs have ur nicknames appearing while mine is "message to #debian..."? |
| 05:03.35 | WiFiTux | hhmm |
| 05:03.45 | WiFiTux | anan, you have a crappy IRC client. |
| 05:03.46 | peterS | anan: that's a function of your irc client |
| 05:04.07 | ezhdeha | hi there, can anyone tell me how to get the local administrator password off a win2k machine ? |
| 05:04.07 | kingsley | Which backup utility, if any, can maintain rolling incremental backups and a mirror, like rdiff-backup, but of a Microsoft file system? |
| 05:04.14 | ezhdeha | perhaps with a linux boot disk ? |
| 05:04.48 | anan | how to know what irc client i am using? |
| 05:04.52 | WiFiTux | OKOK no one. |
| 05:05.08 | jonesy | ezhdeha, google for ntpasswd, it's a bootable linux cd which will do just that |
| 05:05.08 | WiFiTux | anan, what kind of stupid question is that? |
| 05:05.12 | WiFiTux | !moron anan |
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| 05:05.13 | dpkg | anan: You are moron #47 |
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| 05:05.24 | bluefox83 | still not working |
| 05:05.37 | darkness | Please help i've forgotton my su passwd? |
| 05:05.41 | dasameog408 | whats a kernal for adaptec cards in debian |
| 05:05.48 | simonrvn | anan: one that doesn't even understand CTCP VERSION |
| 05:05.50 | simonrvn | (01.05.19) CTCP ERRMSG reply from anan: VERSION :Unknown CTCP command |
| 05:05.56 | bluefox83 | where does that wxinfo thingy get it's information? |
| 05:05.56 | anan | how do you arrive at the number? |
| 05:06.27 | simonrvn | dasameog408: 'kernel'. and modules are built to support them, not a kernel |
| 05:06.28 | WiFiTux | anan, we keep a list of idiots. |
| 05:06.52 | simonrvn | darkness: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password |
| 05:06.54 | bluefox83 | where does wxininfo get it's info/ |
| 05:06.58 | bluefox83 | ? |
| 05:07.02 | dasameog408 | dude i get kernal panic - attempting to kill init |
| 05:07.02 | anan | who is number 1? |
| 05:07.10 | bluefox83 | there has to be some reason why it keeps returning 800x600 |
| 05:07.21 | jonesy | ezhdeha, http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html |
| 05:07.36 | simonrvn | and don't /msg me |
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| 05:07.57 | dasameog408 | dude i get kernal panic - attempting to kill init |
| 05:08.11 | britt | hello, i would like to make a complete backup of every user's home folder...so /home and down |
| 05:08.15 | simonrvn | i saw you the first time. 'kernel' |
| 05:08.19 | britt | whats the syntax for tar...? |
| 05:08.25 | jonesy | man tar |
| 05:08.28 | simonrvn | britt: man tar |
| 05:08.48 | britt | okay |
| 05:08.56 | witigonen | When I do a 'who' I see that I am still connected with my old SSH connection, even though that session has been closed - I moved wifi zones, so it's still there when I do who under the old zone and with the time connected of when I originally did so. Is there a way to kill a connection on pts/2 or disconnect a specific username or...? |
| 05:09.09 | simonrvn | dasameog408: 'dude', i don't read minds, you'll have to be more explicit |
| 05:09.23 | anan | I am trying out chatting via Kopete. Previously I use Xchat without any problem. |
| 05:09.48 | dasameog408 | thats waht i gety |
| 05:09.51 | dasameog408 | simonrun |
| 05:10.07 | colloron | does ttysnoop actually listens to keystrokes or the tcp/ip? |
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| 05:10.26 | simonrvn | dasameog408: stop /msging me |
| 05:10.33 | dasameog408 | sorry |
| 05:10.42 | dasameog408 | well like when i click boot |
| 05:10.45 | dasameog408 | like enter |
| 05:10.54 | dasameog408 | i think its becasue i have adaptec card |
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| 05:11.08 | dasameog408 | with all other distro's i have to do something special |
| 05:11.22 | anan | Seriously, how do i ocrrect my problem? |
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| 05:11.30 | dasameog408 | simonrun? |
| 05:11.42 | simonrvn | dasameog408: again, i need more info. kernel version, debian version, etc. 'simonrvn' |
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| 05:11.58 | ezhdeha | jonesy: thank you :) |
| 05:12.00 | simonrvn | @tell dasameog408 -about ask |
| 05:12.07 | britt | i did the example syntax...and it coawrdly refuses to create empty archive |
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| 05:12.17 | britt | damn i write this stuff down usually |
| 05:12.22 | simonrvn | @tell dasameog408 -about smart questions |
| 05:12.42 | elusive | simonrvn , his problem is at the boot instalation |
| 05:12.57 | elusive | simonrvn , the disc of boot is the disc 5 (bf2.4) of 3.0r2 |
| 05:13.01 | dasameog408 | yup |
| 05:13.03 | marinos | britt: tar czf tarfile.tar.gz file list |
| 05:13.04 | simonrvn | elusive: duh. |
| 05:13.12 | simonrvn | cd 5 isn't bootable afaik |
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| 05:13.21 | simonrvn | (could be wrong) |
| 05:13.30 | elusive | the linuxiso.org says it is boot |
| 05:13.41 | dasameog408 | is their a mini inst |
| 05:13.45 | dasameog408 | for debian |
| 05:13.50 | simonrvn | i don't care what linuxiso.org says, what does debian say? |
| 05:13.51 | anan | help:-O |
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| 05:13.56 | elusive | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:19.08 | bluefox83 | xvininfo still returns 800x600, where th eheck is it getting that info and how do i change it/ |
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| 05:19.17 | bluefox83 | ? |
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| 05:20.23 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: its getting that info from your running XServer |
| 05:20.52 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: you can make it use other resolutions by editing /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 05:20.54 | bluefox83 | ok, then where do i go to make it stop using that resolution? i already edited /etc/X11/Xf86Config-4 |
| 05:21.12 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: restarted xserver? |
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| 05:21.22 | bluefox83 | hairy_potter, yes... |
| 05:21.28 | bluefox83 | like ten times |
| 05:21.31 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: what do the log messages say? |
| 05:21.45 | bluefox83 | i dunno which log messages to look for :( |
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| 05:22.40 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: /var/log/XFree86.* |
| 05:23.04 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: or even look at the console output of X. it might throw some clues. |
| 05:23.07 | simonrvn | comme tirer les vers du nez... |
| 05:23.28 | bluefox83 | hairy_potter, look in #flood, i have some log stuff to show you |
| 05:23.35 | hairy_potter | ok... wait |
| 05:23.40 | bluefox83 | k |
| 05:23.51 | simonrvn | some stupid generic error message that's totally useless and i'm supposed to guess what the problem is? fuck that |
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| 05:24.21 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: so its again in /etc/X11/Xf86Config-4 |
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| 05:24.38 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: you have to set the hsync and vsync to an _appropriate_ value |
| 05:24.55 | bluefox83 | hairy_potter, did you see that it thinks i am using a CRT? |
| 05:24.57 | Savin | Anyone know of a good site that clearly explains how to install a java runtime environment on Debian sarge? |
| 05:24.57 | Witigonen | How do I permanently change the hostname of the system? |
| 05:24.58 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: is your monitor ancient? |
| 05:25.13 | bluefox83 | hairy_potter, i just got this monitor half an horu ago, it's lcd |
| 05:25.17 | bluefox83 | *hour |
| 05:25.19 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: ah |
| 05:25.53 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: didn't you try to do dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xfree86? |
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| 05:26.00 | bluefox83 | yeah i did |
| 05:26.03 | bluefox83 | should i try again? |
| 05:26.25 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: didn't it ask you whether your monitor is a LCD device? |
| 05:26.30 | yxa | hi when someone duct-tapes several gpl components, adds in a php GUI and sells that product commercially under their own name, is it in direct violation of GPL? |
| 05:26.34 | bluefox83 | hairy_potter, yeah it did |
| 05:26.48 | hairy_potter | yxa: "commercially" isn't violation |
| 05:27.20 | hairy_potter | yxa: as long as all the modifications you made to the "several gpl components" are made available |
| 05:27.32 | hairy_potter | yxa: #gnu or #fsf |
| 05:27.44 | hairy_potter | yxa: maybe there is even a #gpl, but i couldn't care less |
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| 05:28.20 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: have you specified only the frequency that your LCD lists? |
| 05:28.21 | yxa | hairy_potter what do you mean "made available"? from what i see, its just a huge rpm |
| 05:28.25 | Witigonen | So I don't have an /etc/hostname file on my server, however, I still wish to permanently change the hostname - should I just create a hostname file or what? |
| 05:28.30 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: what BPP are you using? |
| 05:28.38 | themolest | im having a bit of a problem, i transfer at >3MB/s incoming to a server, and it uses 100% of a 3ghz cpu, is there a way to figure out what module/part of the kernel is lagging? |
| 05:28.45 | themolest | i dont THINK its the program |
| 05:28.51 | Savin | Anyone know of a good site that clearly explains how to install a java runtime environment on Debian sarge? |
| 05:28.52 | stew | Witigonen: what version of debian are you running? |
| 05:29.00 | hairy_potter | yxa: whats a huge RPM? |
| 05:29.12 | hairy_potter | yxa: so you never made modifications to the individual components? |
| 05:29.19 | hairy_potter | yxa: you've like just added a PHP UI? |
| 05:29.20 | yxa | hairy_potter the software in question |
| 05:29.25 | Witigonen | stew: 3.0 |
| 05:29.50 | bluefox83 | hairy_potter, i'm not sure where to find the ranges and such my monitor requires in my book.. |
| 05:29.55 | yxa | hairy_potter not "ME". someone. |
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| 05:30.25 | hairy_potter | bluefox83: ah |
| 05:30.39 | yxa | hairy_potter there has to be modifications made to make them all work together i'm sure. |
| 05:30.49 | stew | Witigonen: yeah create it I guess. how did it get removed? what does "hostname" return now? |
| 05:31.32 | hairy_potter | yxa: then there should be a way by which the modifications can be made available to the end user |
| 05:31.38 | hairy_potter | yxa: ask #fsf or #gnu |
| 05:31.41 | Witigonen | stew: it was never removed as far as I know. I did a locate and can't find it. 'hostname' returns what I just set the hostname to be using the hostname command. |
| 05:32.08 | stew | Witigonen: if its not there now, it was removed |
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| 05:32.48 | bluefox83 | ok, restarting X |
| 05:32.52 | dserban | is there a package in debian that provides services for dynamic dns clients? |
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| 05:35.10 | darkness | Hey guys, okay say for an example a guy called John gave someone remote root access to his debian box via ssh to set some stuff up. Now john thinking that he doesn't want to give root away changes the root passwd while peter who John gave root to is still logged in under peter#. Now can peter still funtion as root in this scinario? |
| 05:35.50 | sharth | it's just a bad idea to give someone root |
| 05:36.02 | darkness | I know this. |
| 05:36.07 | nagual | i should have your finger for giving away root. |
| 05:36.08 | stew | darkness: yes |
| 05:36.09 | drini | yes, if he's still logged in, what john should do is kill the process that run peter |
| 05:36.11 | tabris|away | and yes. he can. |
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| 05:36.19 | drini | so he's kicked out |
| 05:36.20 | stew | darkness: and in fact peter can change teh password back |
| 05:36.21 | sharth | but all users logged in as root should stay logged in |
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| 05:36.24 | drini | and then restart |
| 05:36.32 | sharth | and then format |
| 05:36.42 | drini | another way, is restart the ocmputer without internet connection, manually change root while offline, and be done |
| 05:36.54 | darkness | Cheers drini. |
| 05:37.07 | darkness | Infact he's helped loads setting up apache and stuff. |
| 05:37.22 | darkness | Plus fixed eth0 |
| 05:37.47 | sharth | apparently he just un-fixed eth0... |
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| 05:38.35 | douglas | I'm trying to compile a project I've been working on in linux and I got it to compile using kdevelop but it didn't link, so naturally I added the correct libraries, -lSDL -lSDL_main -lSDL_mixer -lGL -lGLU but when it runs configure it says: "configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables" ??? What does this mean? |
| 05:38.37 | drini | he rebooted |
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| 05:38.56 | stew | !b-e douglas |
| 05:38.57 | dpkg | douglas: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 05:39.04 | stew | !faq douglas |
| 05:39.05 | dpkg | douglas: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 05:39.13 | Witigonen | Hey, I'm getting an error on my server, how do I get tls authentication running again for my imap server? |
| 05:39.14 | douglas | thanks, I'll try |
| 05:39.24 | Witigonen | dovecot is running but I can't login with anything. |
| 05:39.35 | Witigonen | I keep getting a connection refused at tls://domain |
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| 05:40.26 | douglas | nope, same thing. |
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| 05:41.17 | scottj | anyone know of a good clock that works with xscreensaver? I want a huge clock on my screen when I'm not using it |
| 05:42.04 | hairy_potter | scottj: there is a thing called 'bubble' or somesuch |
| 05:42.37 | hairy_potter | ~tell peabody_ about away |
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| 05:43.08 | douglas | nm, I'm dumb |
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| 05:43.53 | scottj | hairy_potter, any idea where you saw that? all I'm seeing for bubble is some game |
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| 05:46.48 | Enolayale | how do I uninstall something WITH all of it's dependant packages? |
| 05:47.02 | Witigonen | I just rebooted and now I can't login to the imap dovecot server... my webmail gives me a 111 connection refused at tls://mydomainname. So I take it tls authentication isn't working? How do I start it? |
| 05:47.12 | stew | Enolayale: look at deborphan or debfoster |
| 05:48.06 | stew | Enolayale: wait, what do you mean exactly, when you remove a package, all the pacakges that depend on it get automatically removed, if you want to remove the packages it depends on then deborphan |
| 05:48.24 | Enolayale | I installed konqueror |
| 05:48.32 | Enolayale | and it needed a billion kde files |
| 05:48.42 | stew | Enolayale: /msg dpkg remove kde |
| 05:48.42 | Enolayale | now I want to remove it, but it only says it's removing 'konqueror' |
| 05:49.01 | C17H21NO4 | I see alot of screencaps of what appears to be a terminal window without window borders and a transparent background, giving the illusion that text is just being printed to the desktop. How is this done? |
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| 05:49.15 | Enolayale | stew: will that do it? |
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| 05:49.32 | Enolayale | it came with files such as zlib1g and xlibs |
| 05:50.02 | Enolayale | I don't know why apt-cache depends doesn't give you them neatly |
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| 05:50.57 | Witigonen | How do I start the ssl authentication daemon? |
| 05:51.02 | i3dmaster | what's the difference b/w msdos and vfat mount? |
| 05:51.23 | mwilson | C17H21NO4: With one of several different *terms, or one of several different logging tools... I don't suppose you could actually bother to show an example? |
| 05:51.33 | stew | i3dmaster: filename length for one |
| 05:51.43 | mwilson | i3dmaster: vfat, among other things, supports LFN's |
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| 05:52.09 | i3dmaster | stew: you mean msdos only supports 8.3... something like that? |
| 05:52.19 | stew | yes |
| 05:53.10 | i3dmaster | stew: k. any difference if I use msdos to mount floppy instead of vfat? |
| 05:53.33 | mwilson | i3dmaster: It matters if the floppy is MSDOS, or VFAT. |
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| 05:53.51 | mwilson | i3dmaster: Wouldn't you think it'd actually be a good idea to use the fs that's on it? |
| 05:53.52 | stew | i3dmaster: filename length for one |
| 05:54.00 | Witigonen | Hey everyone... I just restarted by Debian server and now my imap server (Dovecot + Postfix) isn't working - I'm fairly sure I need to start the authentication, as the connection is being denied when things are trying to connect to it, but I don't know how. Can somebody please enlighten me? |
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| 05:54.12 | i3dmaster | mwilson: how to find out what fs is on a floppy then? |
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| 05:54.28 | mwilson | i3dmaster: I'd imagine whatever fs you put on it, is what's there. |
| 05:54.30 | daffy-pkf | can someone help me with linux from scratch? i just installed apt and dpkg, tried to run a dist-upgrade, but now it says: "/lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found". i tried to recompile glibc but it tells me the same thing, how can i fix that? |
| 05:54.30 | i3dmaster | should it usually fat16? |
| 05:54.46 | mwilson | FAT16 is not a filesystem. |
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| 05:54.51 | Enolayale | stew: so if I remove konqueror with synaptic will it remove the packages konqueror (and only konqueror) depended on? |
| 05:54.58 | mwilson | A floppy is FAT12. |
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| 05:55.21 | stew | Enolayale: i don't know anything about synaptic |
| 05:55.31 | Enolayale | okay, do you know anything that would do that? |
| 05:55.39 | Coke | Enolayale: aptitude |
| 05:55.40 | i3dmaster | mwilson: oh sorry right, see that's the thing I am not quite sure. If I use windows formats a floppy, what would be the fs then? |
| 05:55.52 | stew | daffy-pkf: we can only help with pure debian here |
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| 05:55.54 | mwilson | i3dmaster: VFAT. |
| 05:56.02 | stew | daffy-pkf: find a channel for lfs or a mailing list |
| 05:56.04 | Coke | Enolayale: but that feature sucks if you have -dev packages you want to keep. |
| 05:56.13 | Coke | Enolayale: or libraries in general. |
| 05:56.20 | stew | Enolayale: deborphan or debfoster |
| 05:56.30 | daffy-pkf | stew> ok, i'm on #lfs, but it's not very reactive... thanks anyway |
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| 05:56.34 | Enolayale | ahh coke! |
| 05:56.46 | Enolayale | under options 'remove unused packages automatically' |
| 05:56.51 | Enolayale | perfect |
| 05:57.06 | i3dmaster | mwilson: ok I see. just curious, how a floppy can be made to a msdos fs then? |
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| 05:57.40 | mwilson | i3dmaster: Create a filesystem on it with a tool that creates an MSDOS filesystem. |
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| 05:58.21 | mwilson | i3dmaster: It really doesn't make any difference. VFAT is downwardly compatible with MSDOS. |
| 05:58.35 | stew | i3dmaster: there is a dosfstools package |
| 05:58.39 | i3dmaster | mwilson: well sounds like if I use msdos 6.2 to create a floppy, it would probably a msdos fs... |
| 05:58.41 | mwilson | i3dmaster: A blank VFAT filesytem looks like a blank MSDOS filesytem. |
| 05:59.06 | mwilson | i3dmaster: Yes, but the first time you write to it as VFAT, it'll now be a VFAT filesystem. |
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| 06:00.17 | ahewitt | hey is anyone here using the apache2 mod_cfg_ldap module? I have it working however I am now trying to get cgi access to work with virtual hosts stored in ldap and I can't find any information about getting cgi to work with this module? |
| 06:01.01 | colloron | are there symbolic links of ttys[x] to those pts/[x] terminals which im seeing in w or who? |
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| 06:01.13 | i3dmaster | mwilson, stew: ok cool. sounds like if I mount a floppy using vfat should more than likely be right than using msdos at most cases... |
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| 06:01.53 | stew | i3dmaster: you can always cp /dev/fd0 /tmp/backup.img before you do anything... |
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| 06:02.55 | i3dmaster | stew: hmm.. can cp do a raw copy a device to a image? |
| 06:03.01 | stew | yes |
| 06:03.13 | i3dmaster | stew: I thought dd is the one will do |
| 06:03.22 | stew | use that if it floats your boat |
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| 06:03.27 | i3dmaster | stew: I will try |
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| 06:07.24 | myren | Capnskull: logoff dude and log back in as a real user, not root |
| 06:07.38 | myren | thats what your little intro message is supposed to tell you |
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| 06:09.09 | tu | Anyone know a fast server where i can test 1 Mbit connection? |
| 06:09.23 | myren | there's like dslspeed.com |
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| 06:09.43 | myren | like because it might be dslspeeds.com or something |
| 06:09.52 | marinos | another Mozilla-javascript vulnerability |
| 06:09.58 | myren | debian's mighty frakking quiet tonight |
| 06:10.04 | myren | has been these past couple of nights |
| 06:10.30 | zignig | myren: sssh , trying to concentrate ;P |
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| 06:10.34 | tu | k |
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| 06:11.18 | Capnskull | sorry about that |
| 06:12.15 | Capnskull | i just installed dual boot debian /xp and cant mount my xp partitions . any ideas? |
| 06:12.31 | stew | Capnskull: what have you tried so far? |
| 06:12.42 | Capnskull | looking for the device in /dev |
| 06:12.51 | stew | Capnskull: fdisk -l |
| 06:12.57 | stew | will list all known partitions |
| 06:13.08 | Capnskull | but i find hda1 but also hda2, hda3 hda4 and so on all with 0 file size |
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| 06:13.37 | stew | Capnskull: what do you mean 0 file size? |
| 06:13.46 | tag | error: 'Can't create UNIX socket (97)' ... what the fsck |
| 06:14.02 | tag | I just installed mysql from apt on a fresh box running unstable and the 2.6.10 kernel |
| 06:14.21 | Capnskull | its nothing there |
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| 06:14.22 | tag | and mysql is just simply not starting and I checked all the log files there are no pointers as to why except that one stupid message |
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| 06:14.38 | stew | tag: checked the bts? |
| 06:14.44 | tag | bts? |
| 06:14.50 | stew | !btssmite tag |
| 06:15.10 | mwilson | Capnskull: Well, yeah, what did you expect them to be? What filesystem is on your XP partition(s)? |
| 06:15.24 | Capnskull | NTFS |
| 06:15.29 | stew | tag: you get the chainsaw then |
| 06:15.54 | stew | tag: /msg dpkg bts (as it tells you in the /topic) |
| 06:16.02 | mwilson | Capnskull: And does whatever kernel you're using have support for NTFS? |
| 06:16.23 | FlimFlamMan | how can i set up debian-testing so that a non-root user can burn ISO's with nautilus? group is set to "cdrom" permissions rw, and i;m a member of the group... |
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| 06:16.24 | tag | so you suggest I switch to testing? |
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| 06:16.36 | tag | well it actually help anything!? :-) |
| 06:16.48 | Jefis | how to run check filesystem untility? |
| 06:16.52 | Capnskull | i hope so i am new to this and just did a netinstall i got off the debian site. it was a few days ago so i assume it would support it |
| 06:16.57 | bbmj | tag: if you want things to work. |
| 06:17.11 | mwilson | Nautilus is bad enough... why would you want to use it to burn CD's? |
| 06:17.13 | Capnskull | do i have to enable it somehow? |
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| 06:17.34 | tag | will it downgrade easily |
| 06:17.35 | tag | what do I have to do |
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| 06:17.41 | mwilson | Capnskull: I have no idea what d-i does... I don't use it. |
| 06:17.44 | FlimFlamMan | mwilson, because i'd like to push debian to being suitable for a non-technical user. |
| 06:17.48 | tag | how can I do apt-get dist-downgrade |
| 06:17.49 | stew | tag: /msg dpkg downgrade |
| 06:17.49 | tag | heh |
| 06:18.11 | Guerin | FlimFlamMan: why? |
| 06:18.14 | tag | hargwash |
| 06:18.14 | mwilson | FlimFlamMan: Non-technical users aren't doing configurations. |
| 06:18.26 | Guerin | FlimFlamMan: and for another thing, debian IS suitable for non-technical users. |
| 06:18.37 | FlimFlamMan | non-technical users will want to burn cd's with a GUI. |
| 06:18.49 | mwilson | FlimFlamMan: Non-technical users don't get to make decisions. |
| 06:18.53 | Guerin | FlimFlamMan: non-technical users need technical users to set things up for them. |
| 06:19.03 | tag | thanks |
| 06:19.05 | CharlesBrown | non-technical users should all die |
| 06:19.15 | CharlesBrown | Then the world would be a better place. |
| 06:19.18 | Guerin | CharlesBrown: that's my mother you're talking about, mate. |
| 06:19.21 | mwilson | CharlesBrown: And why would that be? |
| 06:19.23 | FlimFlamMan | right. which is why i'd like to know how to set up debian-testing to allow non-root users burn cd's from nautilus. |
| 06:19.26 | rvirani | hey all |
| 06:19.29 | tag | Ok apparently this problem had nothing to do with unstable |
| 06:19.31 | rvirani | what is 'lex' |
| 06:19.35 | daffy-pkf | is there a way to ask debootstrap to install only the packages necessary to run linux? i mean not all the debian base, just what is absolutely necessary |
| 06:19.40 | Guerin | !lex |
| 06:19.40 | dpkg | apt-get install flex |
| 06:19.49 | rvirani | Guerin: thanx |
| 06:19.50 | mwilson | FlimFlamMan: You'll have to ask someone unlucky enough to be running Gnome. |
| 06:19.55 | Guerin | rvirani: it's a lexical analyser |
| 06:20.05 | FlimFlamMan | is there some way i can determine that from my irc client |
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| 06:21.06 | wobbler | Capnskull: d-i should have added your xp to the grub menu but you have to arrow down to it when you see the boot screen |
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| 06:21.18 | Guerin | FlimFlamMan: i don't think the cd burning group is typically called 'cdrom', for obvious reasons |
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| 06:22.18 | rvirani | how do I query apt to ask it what package contains foo |
| 06:22.24 | rvirani | for example xml2-config |
| 06:22.31 | stew | rvirani: dpkg -S xml2-config |
| 06:22.44 | Kvant | or apt-file search xml2-config |
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| 06:23.07 | mwilson | Guerin: Mine is. |
| 06:23.20 | mwilson | Guerin: Although I don't allow other than root to burn CD's. |
| 06:23.27 | Guerin | mwilson: mine is called 'burning' or something |
| 06:23.32 | Guerin | mwilson: though that may be a k3b thing |
| 06:23.46 | rvirani | stew: nothing |
| 06:23.55 | rvirani | Kvant: apt-file not found |
| 06:24.05 | Guerin | !installit |
| 06:24.05 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 06:24.06 | mwilson | If K3b somehow modified a group ownership, that's uet another reason its developer should be shot. |
| 06:24.13 | stew | rvirani: it was probably created by a postinst script then |
| 06:24.14 | Kvant | apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update |
| 06:24.18 | Guerin | i dunno if it does |
| 06:24.20 | rvirani | k I installed it |
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| 06:24.53 | rvirani | Guerin: I know that but at least the ability to search software repositories like emerge for example |
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| 06:25.36 | Capnskull | anyone know how i can find my partitions? im baffled |
| 06:25.55 | maher | Capnskull: cat /proc/partitions |
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| 06:26.16 | debian | Capnskull: where did you lose them? |
| 06:26.27 | kuru | someone ban eDitor please |
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| 06:26.38 | kuru | why do we have bots spamming us about porn? |
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| 06:27.06 | streuner | kuru: why do the banana look like a banana? |
| 06:27.09 | aardvark | !ops eDitor spammy spambot |
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| 06:27.11 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: eDitor spammy spambot |
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| 06:27.18 | cat | eDitor: spamer |
| 06:27.21 | aardvark | ktnx. |
| 06:27.52 | kuru | thank ye sir |
| 06:28.04 | kuru | streuner, ;) |
| 06:28.09 | streuner | thanks helix |
| 06:28.13 | aardvark | in soviet russia, source makes you |
| 06:28.23 | kuru | okay, now on to a little problem |
| 06:28.56 | aardvark | kuru: you're not running debian? |
| 06:28.58 | kuru | I've been googling around and I don't seem to be the only one, but I can't find a solution to it. I have e1000 handling some big loads and it keeps resetting the connection, sometimes failing for awhile |
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| 06:29.14 | kuru | aardvark, debian? what's that? |
| 06:29.23 | aardvark | :-| |
| 06:29.31 | aardvark | !fart kuru |
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| 06:34.00 | cat | kuru: you're on #debian channel and you don't even know what Debian is? |
| 06:34.20 | aardvark | cat: i'm guessing he's using kurumin. |
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| 06:35.06 | cat | what the heck is kurumin? |
| 06:35.09 | cat | !kurumin |
| 06:35.09 | dpkg | Kurumin Linux is a Brazilian run-from-CD Linux distribution based on Knoppix. That means it's not debian. Go away.. Ajuda pra Kurumin: http://www.kurumin.com.br |
| 06:35.16 | gyges | do you know what kuru is? |
| 06:35.34 | maher | gyges: disease you get from eating peoples brains |
| 06:36.07 | Capnskull | im baffled |
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| 06:37.04 | gyges | maher, exactly |
| 06:38.00 | Capnskull | i did cat /proc/partitions but dont really understand it |
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| 06:38.54 | maher | Capnskull: paste it in #flood |
| 06:39.05 | Capnskull | ok |
| 06:39.07 | gyges | you can also fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 06:39.07 | stew | cafuego: did you try fdisk -l? |
| 06:39.14 | gyges | or: df -h |
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| 06:39.22 | gyges | all give you aspects of your partition scene |
| 06:39.24 | stew | gyges: he's looking for an unmounted partition |
| 06:39.43 | gyges | fdisk should see it then, afaik |
| 06:40.04 | stew | why? |
| 06:40.11 | stew | oh |
| 06:40.15 | cafuego | !fix stew's tab |
| 06:40.16 | stew | ewps |
| 06:40.19 | stew | sorry |
| 06:40.24 | gyges | hehe |
| 06:40.49 | gyges | a good filthy stare can turn me on, but then I am an odd one |
| 06:41.24 | Capnskull | ok i pasted the info in #flood |
| 06:41.26 | maher | Capnskull: what do you want to know |
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| 06:41.46 | Capnskull | maher:how to mount these partitions |
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| 06:42.28 | CharlesBrown | Is there any gui to change the system time? |
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| 06:42.34 | maher | Capnskull: are you in the middle of an install? |
| 06:42.45 | Capnskull | no im done with it |
| 06:42.48 | SexyKen | Hey guys -- I have some steak that has a sell by date of April 3rd, is it bad you think? |
| 06:42.53 | Guerin | CharlesBrown: xterm -e man date |
| 06:43.00 | Capnskull | i got a netinstall cd off the net. im assuming its a barebones install |
| 06:43.01 | CharlesBrown | lol |
| 06:43.04 | zinx | SexyKen: depends on how well you cook it |
| 06:43.08 | Guerin | SexyKen: if you don't know, don't eat it |
| 06:43.10 | zinx | SexyKen: and how well you stored it :P |
| 06:43.10 | maher | Capnskull: have you rebooted? |
| 06:43.14 | Capnskull | yes i have |
| 06:43.17 | cafuego | SexyKen: Your cats will think it's fine. |
| 06:43.24 | Capnskull | did i miss something? |
| 06:43.25 | aardvark | SexyKen: by all means, eat it. maybe that'll make you go away. |
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| 06:43.39 | SexyKen | Well I cooked it and it kind of looks wierd...has color to it. |
| 06:43.41 | cafuego | SexyKen: if you cook it all the way through or cube it and stir fry or stew it, you'll be fine. |
| 06:43.55 | SexyKen | We cooked it all the way through. |
| 06:44.02 | Guerin | SexyKen: 1) sell-by date is irrelevant if you know how to treat food 2) sell-by dates can't be trusted anyway 3) individual digestion is more relevant than the date food is supposed to be eaten by |
| 06:44.08 | stew | did someone say stew? |
| 06:44.14 | cafuego | SexyKen: Well, it probably won't KILL you. |
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| 06:44.21 | aardvark | cafuego: bummer. |
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| 06:44.59 | cafuego | aardvark: Koninginnedag hier met Grolsch op tap in de binnenstad :-) |
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| 06:45.06 | maher | Capnskull: does mount partitionname mountpoint work? |
| 06:45.08 | SexyKen | cafuego so you think I should eat it |
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| 06:45.17 | gyges | Guerin, there you go, being rational and sensical again |
| 06:45.19 | cafuego | SexyKen: I don't much care either weay. |
| 06:45.40 | nailbiter | SexyKen: i'd play safe and throw it away. :) steak is cheap. your health is not .. |
| 06:45.56 | Capnskull | maher:i tried it but i dont even know where it is. i tried in /dev/ and looked for hdb5 and it says not found |
| 06:45.58 | stew | SexyKen: taking health advice from #debian isn't necessarily recommended |
| 06:46.00 | streuner | good appetit :-) |
| 06:46.14 | gyges | bon |
| 06:46.17 | gyges | bon apetit |
| 06:46.20 | maher | Capnskull: ok - i dunno - my partitions show up as hda2 etc |
| 06:46.21 | stew | !tell gyges about fr |
| 06:46.22 | stew | :) |
| 06:46.24 | cafuego | guten appetit |
| 06:46.45 | Aculeus | Shouldn't that be "bon apitite"? |
| 06:46.56 | gyges | bon apetit |
| 06:46.57 | Capnskull | maher: i know thats what it shows up as but it says its not there |
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| 06:46.59 | cafuego | Aculeus: What language is that supposed to be? |
| 06:47.02 | nailbiter | stew: unless, of course, you're cooking on top of an overclocked athlon .. |
| 06:47.05 | Aculeus | Which? |
| 06:47.18 | Aculeus | Maybe it's bonne appitete, or bone appitite. |
| 06:47.25 | maher | Capnskull: i mean when i do cat /proc/partitions |
| 06:47.30 | cafuego | Aculeus: No, it's neither of those. |
| 06:47.36 | Aculeus | excuse me? |
| 06:47.44 | peterS | hey |
| 06:47.50 | cafuego | what? |
| 06:47.50 | peterS | that wasn't called-for |
| 06:47.51 | Aculeus | You flaming retard, that's a french term. |
| 06:47.55 | Aculeus | guten is german |
| 06:47.59 | Aculeus | DUH |
| 06:48.03 | peterS | Aculeus: I suspect cafuego and I both knew that |
| 06:48.25 | Aculeus | Never know, those aussies often have too much beer and too few brains. |
| 06:48.34 | cafuego | Aculeus: Which aussies? |
| 06:48.55 | peterS | hehe |
| 06:48.58 | Aculeus | Any aussie. |
| 06:49.04 | cafuego | Aculeus: 'appetit' is german as well, so that's a snug fit. |
| 06:49.10 | peterS | how many brains does the average aussie have, anyway? too few, I guess, but how many? |
| 06:49.12 | aardvark | Aculeus: come to troll often? |
| 06:49.16 | Aculeus | Yes but it's a french term. |
| 06:49.26 | maher | peterS: most people only have one brain |
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| 06:49.30 | cafuego | peterS: Depends. Probably 1.07 on average. |
| 06:49.34 | Aculeus | aardvark, I troll not, I do however get into convos when I'm bored such as tonight. |
| 06:49.36 | peterS | maher: I've got a couple of ganglia for backup purposes |
| 06:49.41 | Aculeus | And often I feel the desire to joke, which is what I'm doing now. |
| 06:49.48 | cafuego | maher: No, you can buy 'em in the supermarket, you fry them with onions. |
| 06:50.20 | cafuego | Aculeus: Anyway. Neither "bonne appitete" nor "bone appitite" is french |
| 06:50.35 | Aculeus | I don't speak french, I wouldn't know :P |
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| 06:51.00 | Aculeus | Regardless, I'm joking caf don't take it seriously. |
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| 06:51.07 | Vince35 | "bon appétit" is french....(o; |
| 06:51.10 | peterS | all this apétit stuff, bonne or otherwise, is reminding me that I have a serious need for caloric content right about now |
| 06:51.14 | peterS | thanks, people |
| 06:51.25 | streuner | hehe |
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| 06:52.34 | aardvark | cafuego: vreten, kreng |
| 06:52.44 | streuner | s/how/know/ |
| 06:53.00 | cafuego | aardvark: Wil je wat majo bij je apetit? |
| 06:53.16 | aardvark | cafuego: een hele emmer |
| 06:53.30 | stew | champignon |
| 06:53.41 | aardvark | @blaireau stew |
| 06:53.45 | ravenbird | stew: blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau champignon champignon blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau serpent! oooh un serpeeeent! |
| 06:53.55 | peterS | streuner: can't speak for anyone else, but I happened to already be hungry before hearing about these things |
| 06:54.12 | kneet | Now there's a bot repsonse we can use every day :) |
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| 06:55.52 | stew | @melo is melo melo melo melo fungo fungo melo melo melo melo melo serpento! aux estas serpento! |
| 06:55.54 | ravenbird | stew: I think you lost me on that one |
| 06:56.00 | streuner | How is it possible to start an gdesklet in openbox? |
| 06:56.03 | stew | grr |
| 06:56.56 | Vince35 | lol wht you guys are you talkong about with yur french words and other stuff ? (o; |
| 06:57.03 | gyges | streuner, from command prompt? |
| 06:57.07 | Vince35 | can't get it lol |
| 06:57.10 | gyges | thats the only way i ever ran gdesklets |
| 06:57.15 | gyges | cant get a prompt? |
| 06:57.42 | aardvark | !meles stew |
| 06:57.43 | dpkg | stew: meles meles meles meles meles meles meles meles meles meles meles meles BOLETUS BOLETUS meles meles meles meles meles meles meles meles meles meles meles meles ANGUIS! ANGUIS! Anguis! ANGUIS! Ohe! Anguis est! |
| 06:58.02 | streuner | yeah, but gdesklets are written in pyhton, aren't they? |
| 06:58.29 | gyges | yes |
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| 06:58.38 | gyges | EricBlade, python |
| 06:58.56 | gyges | what? I typed er not eric, didnt think i tabbed |
| 06:59.09 | cafuego | aardvark: Your latin sucks. |
| 06:59.21 | aardvark | !factinfo CMD: meles (.*?) |
| 06:59.21 | dpkg | CMD: meles (.*?) -- created by Guerin <~magpie@220.123.169.71> at Wed May 12 12:49:49 2004 (328 days). |
| 06:59.32 | aardvark | cafuego: Guerin's does. |
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| 07:00.17 | cafuego | Serpens est. |
| 07:00.17 | streuner | ok, how do i start a python app? |
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| 07:00.56 | peterS | streuner: normally just execute it |
| 07:01.05 | peterS | streuner: same as a /usr/bin/anything_else |
| 07:01.20 | streuner | thanks |
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| 07:01.50 | rvalles | hi |
| 07:01.51 | jayjayjay | hello, i have a probleme when mounting a raid5 partition. with umask options it doesnt work, without it is ok. nothing on google. anyone has a clue? thanks you! |
| 07:02.05 | rvalles | any debian/unstable user with 10 minutes of time? |
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| 07:02.22 | aardvark | rvalles: no. |
| 07:02.25 | stew | !tell rvalles about ask |
| 07:02.26 | aardvark | !tell rvalles about sid faq |
| 07:02.26 | rvalles | I need somebody to do a little thing for me |
| 07:02.41 | rvalles | the thing is, to install gqview |
| 07:02.51 | rvalles | to make a static out of it with http://statifier.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:02.55 | rvalles | and then send it to me |
| 07:03.11 | rvalles | aardvark: I can ask on my own, as you can see, thanks. |
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| 07:04.43 | mwilson | rvalles: Give me a minute... gotta get this 'sploit put in here and then you can have it. |
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| 07:04.59 | rvalles | mwilson: yayyy |
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| 07:05.21 | mwilson | rvalles: In other words, don't be so clueless as to request random untrusted binaries from random untrusted people. |
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| 07:05.51 | cat | bob2: u there? |
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| 07:06.40 | streuner | ask in channel |
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| 07:07.31 | sinoth | Sorry for the general question but I can't find a ton of info on it.. could anyone explain what exactly adding "--initrd" to make-kpkg does and the pros/cons of doing so? |
| 07:07.43 | mwilson | Oh, brother. |
| 07:07.49 | cat | it compiles the modules and stuff |
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| 07:08.08 | rata | hi |
| 07:08.09 | jayjayjay | hello, i have a probleme when mounting a raid5 partition. with umask options it doesnt work, without it is ok. nothing on google. anyone has a clue? thanks you! (last try) |
| 07:08.09 | stew | cat: bzzzzt. wrong |
| 07:08.21 | rata | only me is having problems connecting to debien repositories ? |
| 07:08.21 | sinoth | cat: modules_image does that |
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| 07:08.43 | aardvark | !topicbadger rata |
| 07:08.43 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that rata didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 07:09.00 | Aimaz | I'm having a problem when apt-get install/remove-ing exim4, it spews a hug config file onto the terminal and then waits, only goes away with ctrl+c |
| 07:09.04 | mwilson | sinoth: pros/cons? What kind of silliness is that? The pro is that if you need an initrd, it creates one, and the con is that if you don't need one, it still creates one. |
| 07:09.12 | idnar | sinoth: from the manpage: "perform any actions necessary for a kernel loaded using initrd" |
| 07:09.25 | stew | sinoth: do you know what an initrd is? |
| 07:09.34 | mwilson | idnar: There you go, expecting people to be able to read. |
| 07:09.45 | sinoth | initial ram disk? :/ no, I don't |
| 07:09.50 | idnar | mwilson: yeah, silly naive me :P |
| 07:09.50 | rata | aakkonen, (http.us.debian.org and non-us.debian.org) |
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| 07:10.16 | idnar | sinoth: if you're building your own kernel, it's much easier to make sure that the drivers needed to boot (IDE, root filesystem, and anything else I forgot) are compiled in than to fiddle with initrd |
| 07:10.19 | bob2 | cat: ? |
| 07:10.45 | aakkonen | oh |
| 07:10.59 | sinoth | idnar: so initrd contains modules needed for critical devices during bootup? |
| 07:10.59 | rata | aakkonen, :-P |
| 07:11.17 | aakkonen | I rather like the finnish mirrors :) |
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| 07:11.37 | mwilson | idnar: I think he's going to try and convince you that he googled and couldn't find anything about initrd's |
| 07:11.38 | stew | sinoth: you either need to have the drivers necessary for loading the rootfs compiled directly into the kernel or as modules in an initrd |
| 07:13.04 | cat | bob2: i finish making what u told me yesterday everything when right what can i do now to put the kernel into my grub so i can boot it and used it |
| 07:13.07 | Aimaz | does anyone know why apt would start spewing out the exim4 config? |
| 07:13.18 | sinoth | stew, idnar: ok, makes sense :) thanks |
| 07:13.21 | Aimaz | and more importantly how I can stop it |
| 07:13.22 | rata | aakkonen, :-? |
| 07:13.36 | bob2 | cat: install the .deb it produced |
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| 07:13.53 | stew | Aimaz: what do you mean "apt"? apt-get? |
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| 07:14.01 | cat | i don't see any debs at all on the kernel |
| 07:14.03 | Aimaz | stew: yes |
| 07:14.08 | stew | Aimaz: what command did you type? |
| 07:14.18 | jond3rd | Aimaz: try to chmod 644 /etc/init.d/exim4 |
| 07:14.20 | bob2 | cat: no, not in the kernel |
| 07:14.23 | Aimaz | stew: apt-get install exim4 |
| 07:14.23 | bob2 | cat: in ../ |
| 07:14.46 | jond3rd | Aimaz: I've seen that also and everytime it starts exim4 it tries to cat some files |
| 07:14.57 | cat | i don't see anything bob2 |
| 07:14.57 | Aimaz | jond3rd: that seems to have done it |
| 07:15.00 | Aimaz | thank you |
| 07:15.10 | cat | do i have to do it again? |
| 07:15.11 | stew | Aimaz: what version of debian? |
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| 07:15.24 | bob2 | cat: oh well |
| 07:15.28 | jond3rd | Aimaz: no problem, anytime :) |
| 07:15.31 | stew | jond3rd: sarge or sid? did you file a bug? |
| 07:15.43 | Aimaz | stew: root@jdfiend:~$ uname -a |
| 07:15.43 | Aimaz | Linux jdfiend 2.6.11.6 #4 SMP Sat Mar 26 21:16:37 GMT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 07:15.48 | jond3rd | stew: haven't file a bug report, i'm on sid |
| 07:15.53 | stew | jond3rd: why not? |
| 07:16.18 | bob2 | cat: if you really ran the command I gave you, and it didn' error out, the .debs are in ../ |
| 07:16.41 | cat | as a normal user right? |
| 07:16.47 | jond3rd | stew: maybe because i don't use exim, it's just its one of the depencies of mysql-server, but I will file one, no problem |
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| 07:17.56 | Aimaz | jond3rd: yeah, that's why I'm using it too |
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| 07:18.07 | cat | as a normal user right? bob2 |
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| 07:19.55 | cat | echo done > stamp-configure |
| 07:19.58 | cat | do i do that? |
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| 07:20.11 | i3dmaster | exit |
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| 07:20.50 | bob2 | cat: er, no |
| 07:20.57 | cat | interesting |
| 07:20.58 | bob2 | did you run the commznd I gave you or not? |
| 07:21.01 | cat | yeap |
| 07:21.05 | bob2 | this would be so much easier if you'd answer that |
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| 07:21.10 | cat | yes i did |
| 07:21.34 | jm_ | cat: you also need to learn to address people when you answer their questions |
| 07:21.34 | aaaa | who's the boss here? |
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| 07:21.52 | streuner | why? |
| 07:21.55 | cat | look in flood bob2 |
| 07:21.56 | katya | <- |
| 07:22.16 | katya | cat :D |
| 07:22.20 | streuner | aaaa: the boss in debian? |
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| 07:22.30 | cat | u saw it bob2 ? |
| 07:22.38 | katya | i'm pretty bossy... |
| 07:22.43 | bob2 | indeed |
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| 07:23.05 | cat | that's the error i got |
| 07:23.07 | cat | now |
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| 07:23.47 | bob2 | that's not an error |
| 07:24.15 | cat | make: Nothing to be done for `all'. |
| 07:24.28 | bob2 | that's not an error, either |
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| 07:24.40 | cat | darn it i'm not sure what's going on bob2 |
| 07:24.47 | jm_ | no shit? |
| 07:24.50 | ferris_ | how can i download ndiswrapper-utils to the drive, so that I can burn it to a disk |
| 07:24.58 | bob2 | make-kpkg clean ; make-kpkg --initrd |
| 07:25.15 | cat | as normal user right bob2 ? |
| 07:25.26 | zignig | ferris_: apt-get -d <- download only |
| 07:25.31 | bob2 | yes |
| 07:25.33 | ferris_ | ok thanks |
| 07:25.36 | cat | ok |
| 07:25.47 | zignig | ferris_: then look in /var/cache/apt/archives. |
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| 07:26.13 | jm_ | or use aptitude download which downloads it to current dir |
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| 07:28.00 | cat | now thats an error bob2 on flood |
| 07:29.13 | bob2 | wow |
| 07:29.15 | bob2 | what a shock |
| 07:29.21 | bob2 | it's almost as if you ran something as root |
| 07:29.55 | cat | damn freaking brother |
| 07:30.02 | cat | i'm gonna changed my r00ts password |
| 07:30.12 | katya | :O |
| 07:30.19 | katya | i missed something cool? |
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| 07:30.49 | bob2 | cat: sudo make-kpkg clean |
| 07:32.03 | cat | ok i'm doing that as root |
| 07:32.34 | cat | done bob2 what else? |
| 07:32.46 | bob2 | lord |
| 07:32.50 | bob2 | 17:24:59 bob2 | make-kpkg clean ; make-kpkg --initrd |
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| 07:34.55 | zignig | bob2: is there an echo in here ? |
| 07:36.08 | katya | bob2: is there an echo in here ? |
| 07:36.23 | katya | :/ |
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| 07:37.25 | SlayerXP | good morning hash-dweebians |
| 07:39.14 | zignig | SlayerXP: greetings earthling |
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| 07:48.09 | zignig | it is quite in here today. |
| 07:48.31 | SlayerXP | ow |
| 07:48.57 | thomas001 | hi, is there something wrong with ifupdown in recent unstable? after i upgraded it, my logical interfaces don't work anymore |
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| 07:50.27 | stew | thomas001: have you checked the bts? |
| 07:50.46 | thomas001 | hmm not yet,good point |
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| 07:51.36 | colde89 | why is it possible to detect my usbscanner with scannimage -L as root but not as user? and how cold i change this? |
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| 07:51.55 | FlimFlamMan | people need to leave the trout alone, man. |
| 07:52.10 | thomas001 | seems to be nothing there |
| 07:52.22 | s-toned | atq only shows the time of a planned action, in /var/spool/cron/atjobs is a file for every job, but the time seems to be crypted in the filename |
| 07:52.49 | s-toned | so, how can I list the planned jobs: task and time? |
| 07:53.41 | cat | oh boy |
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| 07:55.45 | SNIa | Hello, I am trying to remove and reinstall all parts of a package. I installed apache, removed it and removed /etc/apache folder... Now I want to reinstall but complains directory doesn't exist |
| 07:56.16 | cat | SNIa: you shouldn't have done that |
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| 07:56.38 | miyo | SNIa: dpkg -s /etc/apache |
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| 07:57.16 | s-toned | no, the job number is in the filename in /var/spool/cron/atjobs/ |
| 07:57.30 | miyo | SNIa: Lists all packages that need /etc/apache |
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| 07:57.59 | miyo | SNIa: So basically you have removed one package... and then removed directory that other packages need. |
| 07:58.28 | SNIa | shoot |
| 07:59.01 | miyo | SNIa: you might start reinstalling apache-common |
| 07:59.12 | miyo | SNIa: And then all the other packages that depend on that dir. |
| 07:59.21 | SNIa | ok |
| 07:59.23 | SNIa | thx |
| 07:59.27 | miyo | SNIa: And order which you do this might make a difference. |
| 07:59.53 | SNIa | hrmn, wish there was a history of how you installed your packages |
| 07:59.57 | SNIa | and in what order |
| 08:00.12 | streuner | knusper:/usr/share/gdesklets/Displays/cpuload# ./cpuload.display |
| 08:00.13 | streuner | ./cpuload.display: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' |
| 08:00.27 | streuner | How can i solve this? |
| 08:00.47 | jm_ | streuner: check line 1 then |
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| 08:01.06 | streuner | jm_: i got that with every .display |
| 08:01.54 | simonrvn | probably sourced from the "main binary" |
| 08:02.12 | jm_ | streuner: head -1 cpuload.display |
| 08:02.13 | Humbe | If I create a fat partition, I can't mount it, even though vfat is enabled in kernel. Is there any system requirement other than vfat support in kernel for mounting a w95 fat32 partition? |
| 08:02.48 | streuner | knusper:/usr/share/gdesklets/Displays/cpuload# head -1 cpuload.display |
| 08:02.49 | streuner | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> |
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| 08:03.32 | jm_ | stren;WTF |
| 08:03.33 | sepski | Humbe, you have ofcouse also formatted your fat partition ? |
| 08:04.08 | simonrvn | header of an xml file ;p |
| 08:04.17 | streuner | jm_: well, what's wrong, somebody said i can start pyhton apps like /usr/bin files... |
| 08:04.23 | peanutpeanut | is there a working url for planet debian? |
| 08:04.28 | Humbe | sepski: Yes.. It works in windoze.. Works great if I format it in ext3.. Just when I format it in fat32 or fat16 (and have appropriate type set in fdisk) I can't mount it... |
| 08:04.41 | jm_ | streuner: you can if they use python something in the first line, usually like env python blabla or whatever |
| 08:05.04 | Humbe | sepski: I've done this many times before.. Just not getting why it ain't working now.. Since I'm using a custom kernel, I thought there might be some lacking kernel support, but vfat is enabled in kernel.. |
| 08:05.08 | sepski | Humbe, you formatted the disk in windows ? and your entierly sure that windows didn't format it as ntfs ? |
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| 08:05.21 | simonrvn | #!/usr/bin/python ; #!/usr/bin/env python |
| 08:05.29 | streuner | jm_: ic |
| 08:05.35 | sepski | Humbe, well try booting a kernel-image and you find out quickly if your kernel have issues |
| 08:05.37 | Humbe | Yes.. I format it in windows and it only worked in windows.. And I tried format it with mkfs.vfat and it still only worked in windows... |
| 08:05.59 | sepski | Humbe, and the error message you get when you try to mount is ? |
| 08:06.04 | peanutpeanut | ah planet is on gluck. i see. |
| 08:06.22 | peterS | yes, planet is on gluck |
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| 08:07.29 | jethr0 | when using the -R switch to lilo, can I specify a kernel image to boot, or just arguments to an already configured kernel for lilo? |
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| 08:08.57 | CyBeR_GeeK | algum brasileiro ai ? |
| 08:09.01 | jethr0 | !br |
| 08:09.02 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 08:09.08 | CyBeR_GeeK | valew |
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| 08:09.29 | peanutpeanut | Hm. |
| 08:09.31 | peanutpeanut | !cn |
| 08:09.31 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, cn is China |
| 08:09.35 | peanutpeanut | heh |
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| 08:10.19 | boukensya | hey guys. I am looking for a optimised kernel config for the ibook graphite 466 |
| 08:10.21 | bodq | how can I install debian if I can not boot from anything but the HDD? I currently have old working linux installed there |
| 08:10.33 | boukensya | been googeling lots but no luck |
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| 08:10.47 | jm_ | bodq: by reading installation guide |
| 08:10.51 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 vc é br ? |
| 08:10.55 | aardvark | !br |
| 08:10.56 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 08:11.02 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: I don't talk portuguese |
| 08:11.12 | CyBeR_GeeK | ok, sory |
| 08:11.19 | jethr0 | np |
| 08:11.50 | bodq | jm_: good idea, thanks :) |
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| 08:12.18 | jm_ | bodq: seriously, it's mentioned in there |
| 08:12.26 | Humbe | Stupid error message that you allways get with mount.. They coulda just have said 'Some error occured' : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, or too many mounted file systems |
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| 08:12.32 | bodq | jm_: I know :) |
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| 08:12.42 | bodq | jm_: I really want to thank you :) |
| 08:12.46 | bodq | jm_: why not? :) |
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| 08:12.53 | yxa | how do i search for any 3-digit numbers in vim? |
| 08:12.59 | CyBeR_GeeK | quem sabe configurar o wu-ftpd |
| 08:13.01 | CyBeR_GeeK | ops |
| 08:13.05 | CyBeR_GeeK | who knows to configure wu-ftpd |
| 08:13.09 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: you don't want wu-ftpd |
| 08:13.09 | _joey | could someone help me to install ati driver please? I upgraded XFree86 on Debian sarge with libGL.so. When I install fglrx it complains it can't install xlibmesa-gl because it's already been installed |
| 08:13.12 | jm_ | bodq: no worries |
| 08:13.20 | bodq | yxa: [0-9][0-9][0-9] |
| 08:13.26 | bodq | yxa: or \d\d\d |
| 08:13.30 | bodq | yxa: or \d\{3\} |
| 08:13.39 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: you want more secure ftpd instead, one that doesn't provide a remote shell at each and every release |
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| 08:14.03 | yxa | bodq those match 4 or 5 digit numbers :) |
| 08:14.07 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 yes |
| 08:14.16 | CyBeR_GeeK | whant ? |
| 08:14.18 | bodq | yxa: hmm |
| 08:14.27 | _joey | anyone? |
| 08:14.32 | yxa | bodq all numbers are space delimited |
| 08:14.36 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: proftpd/vsftpd/everything but wu-ftpd |
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| 08:14.47 | bodq | yxa: / \d\{3\} / |
| 08:14.54 | bodq | yxa: hmm |
| 08:14.56 | bodq | yxa: no |
| 08:15.10 | bodq | yxa: /(^| )\d\{3\}( |$)/ or something like that |
| 08:15.13 | CyBeR_GeeK | wait |
| 08:15.25 | jm_ | yxa: no, it works just fine - \d\d\d matches what you asked for |
| 08:15.42 | jethr0 | jm_: \d\d\d would match 1234 |
| 08:15.48 | yxa | jm_ it matches others too |
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| 08:16.11 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 my English is not good is using a translator, you to all good pra you |
| 08:16.20 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 my English is not good is using a translator, you to all good for you |
| 08:16.20 | jethr0 | woa |
| 08:16.36 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: wait until someone wakes up in debian-br :) |
| 08:16.44 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: for you own good, and mine ;) |
| 08:16.47 | jm_ | yxa: so you want to match just the numbers with 3 digits, not text with 3 numbers in it? |
| 08:17.06 | yxa | jm_ yeah |
| 08:17.08 | CyBeR_GeeK | unhappyly it does not answer, |
| 08:17.29 | yxa | jm_ is that possible? |
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| 08:17.52 | jm_ | yxa: yes, but the expression will vary depending on your text |
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| 08:18.32 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 this installing the server and you functioning, to put I am not obtaining to deletar nor to rewriting |
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| 08:19.07 | bodq | yxa: for eaxmple, \<\d\d\d\> must work |
| 08:19.14 | yxa | jm \s\d\d\d\s works but doesnt find the "edge" numbers |
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| 08:19.55 | jm_ | yxa: correct, \< \> like mentioned above will most likely help you |
| 08:20.00 | jethr0 | !tell CyBeR_GeeK -about msg |
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| 08:20.32 | yxa | bodq that worked. thanks |
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| 08:20.56 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 sorry, i am find help for me |
| 08:20.58 | CyBeR_GeeK | :( |
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| 08:21.03 | borco | hi |
| 08:21.28 | SirThomas | hi, does 3.0r4 defaults to ext2 filesystem? it isnt asking if i want to preserve 2.2 kernel compatibility |
| 08:21.33 | CyBeR_GeeK | it only wanted to be helped: ( |
| 08:21.38 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: you're not supposed to /msg people without asking them first |
| 08:21.56 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: + it's very risky to give login and passwords to your system, to someone you don't know |
| 08:22.03 | CyBeR_GeeK | oks, but can test for me? |
| 08:22.50 | CyBeR_GeeK | jablko the system is experimental, understood? |
| 08:22.51 | CyBeR_GeeK | ops |
| 08:22.55 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 the system is experimental, understood? |
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| 08:23.16 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: yes |
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| 08:23.25 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: just don't run wu-ftpd in the first place |
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| 08:23.53 | CyBeR_GeeK | then it knows why I am not obtaining to deletar archives? |
| 08:24.17 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: configuration issue |
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| 08:24.59 | nagual | jethr0: why do you let someone hold so much power over you so that they can give you a headache? |
| 08:25.23 | borco | i have found some packages that are not http://packages.debian.org/ but there are in a official mirror. is this normal? for example, the mirror has kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 version 2.6.11-2, but i can't find it at ftp.debian.org. |
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| 08:25.55 | borco | to be more specific, on ftp.ro.debian.org I have this: http://ftp.ro.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-image-2.6.11-i386/ |
| 08:26.02 | alienn | Hi there! I'd like to know what's up with people.debian.org? I can't reach it since at least yesterday... |
| 08:26.05 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 |
| 08:26.06 | CyBeR_GeeK | COMMAND:>RMD teste |
| 08:26.06 | borco | but it is not on http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-image-2.6.11-i386/ |
| 08:26.06 | CyBeR_GeeK | 553 teste: Permission denied on server. (Delete) |
| 08:26.13 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: I read that |
| 08:26.25 | jethr0 | nagual: because I m a good boy |
| 08:26.34 | borco | so, how did those packages got on ftp.ro.debian.org? |
| 08:26.54 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 yes, you a good boy rs |
| 08:26.57 | jethr0 | heh |
| 08:27.13 | alienn | The only packages I got from there are the clamav backports by sgran... |
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| 08:27.21 | colloron | can i search a package with apt-get? if im unsure how its called exactly |
| 08:27.22 | sepski | that translator of his sure makes funny comments :P |
| 08:27.23 | jond3rd | CyBeR_GeeK: is that vsftpd ? |
| 08:27.31 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 what it can be |
| 08:27.41 | alienn | colloron: You can use apt-search |
| 08:27.46 | nagual | jethr0: ok. |
| 08:27.59 | CyBeR_GeeK | jond3rd wu-ftpd |
| 08:27.59 | alienn | colloron: sorry.. apt-cache... |
| 08:28.04 | streuner | colloron: man apt-cache |
| 08:28.11 | nagual | jethr0: forever be the best you can be, and feel everything is as simple as it ever is. |
| 08:28.26 | colloron | ok. just out of curiusity, any ideas how does the perlqt package called? |
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| 08:29.06 | borco | bye |
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| 08:29.17 | alienn | colloron: libqt-perl |
| 08:29.19 | aardvark | !tell colloron about search |
| 08:29.26 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 it would have that to give one apt-get removes wu-ftpd, and later installing proftpd? |
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| 08:29.51 | bodq | jm_: I'm booting to d-i now, but how would I make netinstall now? |
| 08:30.09 | alienn | Nobody knows something about why people.debian.org ist not reachable? I found nothing on the ml-archives yesterday... |
| 08:30.36 | aardvark | !topicbadger alienn |
| 08:30.37 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that alienn didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
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| 08:31.03 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: yes apt-get remove that |
| 08:31.12 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: sorry I m on a conf call at the same time |
| 08:31.28 | CyBeR_GeeK | ok no prob |
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| 08:32.00 | jm_ | bodq: wait, why are you booting if you said you want to insteal from already running Linux? |
| 08:32.02 | sepski | damn you aardvark now i have the badger song in my head.... !AGAIN! |
| 08:32.04 | sepski | :( |
| 08:32.17 | CyBeR_GeeK | ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration. |
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| 08:32.33 | aardvark | !win me |
| 08:32.33 | bodq | jm_: because I can not repartition and use debootstrap |
| 08:32.34 | dpkg | Congratulations, aardvark! You have won the US presidency! |
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| 08:33.05 | jm_ | bodq: but if you can boot then you can use normal d-i installer, no need for other trickery |
| 08:33.26 | bodq | jm_: i don't get it |
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| 08:33.51 | CyBeR_GeeK | why of the this error: ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration. |
| 08:33.54 | bodq | jm_: I need d-i to get its files from the debian mirror (network) |
| 08:34.05 | jm_ | bodq: you asked how you can install Debian if you can't boot from removable media, right? |
| 08:34.11 | bodq | jm_: right |
| 08:34.14 | bodq | jm_: but |
| 08:34.27 | bodq | jm_: hd-media images do not contain the networking part |
| 08:34.31 | jm_ | bodq: no, http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s05.html |
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| 08:35.08 | bodq | jm_: ok, dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ doesn't contain network parts |
| 08:35.46 | jm_ | bodq: yeah, but netboot/debian-installer/i386/ does |
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| 08:36.10 | cat | bob2: done with everything now what else? do i do? |
| 08:36.28 | alienn | aardvark: Thanks a lot, but that didn't help me either! |
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| 08:37.59 | jethr0 | hi Guerin |
| 08:38.20 | lestest | hi there, how do I sort strings like h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 ... h10 h11 h12, in this order with sort? |
| 08:39.04 | bodq | jm_: do you mean mini.iso? |
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| 08:40.00 | Guerin | howdy thar |
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| 08:41.52 | bodq | jm_: nah, it says it's not a debian ISO |
| 08:42.02 | jm_ | bodq: naah, there initrd.gz and corresponding kernel in there |
| 08:42.17 | gypsymauro | it will be a silly question but I need a hint: I've tried to install debian to a machine with a megatrend megaraid integrated scsi adapter the debian installar freezes loading this module..how can I manage this? there is another distro debian derivated that can help me? |
| 08:42.29 | KSergio | hello. Im having problems with exim4-daemon-light on debian unstable. When dpkg tries to set it up, it just shows me a config file and fails :( |
| 08:42.37 | KSergio | any hint? |
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| 08:43.07 | R1ck | are there any kde 3.4 packages, somewhere? |
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| 08:43.46 | Humbe | sepski: I mounted just fine if I compiled fat support as modules instead of built in.. Go figgere.. Anyways.. Problem solved for me.. |
| 08:44.05 | _joey | for usb mouse, which modules should I insert? |
| 08:44.10 | _joey | and which device should I include for XFree86? |
| 08:44.18 | jm_ | R1ck: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/docs/install.html |
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| 08:45.01 | R1ck | tnx a bunch jm_ |
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| 08:46.32 | sepski | gypsymauro, first i'd try one of the many unofficial debian installers, if that also failed, i'd install on a plain ide drive upgrade to a kernel that understands your megaraid, and transfer the image onto the raid, rebuild initrd and add a boatloader |
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| 08:47.35 | sepski | gypsymauro, maybe if your megaraid works with a debian derivate live cd distro you can boot on the livecd, and install debian using debootrap |
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| 08:47.38 | directhex|work | gypsymauro, which version of debian is this? |
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| 08:48.10 | gypsymauro | directhex|work: sarge n-i |
| 08:48.25 | directhex|work | gypsymauro, rc3? |
| 08:48.34 | gypsymauro | yes |
| 08:48.43 | gypsymauro | sepski: I'll try :) |
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| 08:48.55 | directhex|work | gypsymauro, tried forcing a 2.6 kernel install rather than 2.4? |
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| 08:49.18 | gypsymauro | directhex|work: yes the same problem now I'm far away from that machine so I can't remember the module name exactly |
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| 08:49.37 | cat | ssh to the machine and check the err0r |
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| 08:49.58 | gypsymauro | but it stops the installer at 5% sayng "loading module..." and looking in other consoles I see that it tries to reset the scsi adapter but it stops then |
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| 08:51.10 | alienn | people.debian.org is down due to raid Problems: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/04/msg00006.html |
| 08:51.30 | alienn | I was told by some other guy... Thanks for all the help in this channel! |
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| 08:52.23 | CyBeR_GeeK | how I make to initiate proftpd? |
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| 08:52.45 | jakob | hello |
| 08:52.58 | idnar | !hello jakob |
| 08:53.20 | idnar | eh, what's the factoid? |
| 08:54.10 | gypsymauro | how I can unpack "udeb" packages? |
| 08:54.16 | helix | !greet jakob |
| 08:54.17 | dpkg | Howdy, jakob |
| 08:54.29 | jethr0 | how do you tell if a CPU is K6 or K7 ? looking at the cpu_family reported in cpuinfo ? |
| 08:54.44 | jakob | hello |
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| 08:54.58 | gypsymauro | uhm it seems a deb pacakges dpkg -X it works:) |
| 08:55.05 | directhex|work | jethr0, is it an athlon? |
| 08:55.10 | jethr0 | directhex|work: indeed |
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| 08:55.17 | directhex|work | !k7 |
| 08:55.17 | dpkg | well, k7 is the generic model name for the series of AMD i386-compatible processors which begins with the "Athlon" and also includes the "Duron", "Thunderbird", "Sempron" and "Athlon XP" processors. It does not include the Opteron (k8) family or the older K5 or K6 chips. |
| 08:55.18 | jethr0 | directhex|work: and cpu family i s6 |
| 08:55.26 | jethr0 | ok |
| 08:55.27 | jethr0 | thanks |
| 08:55.50 | jethr0 | it's an athlon xp so I guess it's k7 as per the factoid |
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| 08:55.55 | jakob | hello |
| 08:56.02 | jakob | your are strange |
| 08:56.09 | jethr0 | me? |
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| 08:56.35 | simonrvn | your spelling of "you're" sucks ;p |
| 08:57.06 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethr0 how I make to initiate proftpd? |
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| 08:57.26 | simonrvn | /etc/init.d/$somefile start |
| 08:58.24 | jethr0 | CyBeR_GeeK: Idon't understand "initiate" |
| 08:58.49 | CyBeR_GeeK | simonrvn via daemon |
| 08:59.15 | jethr0 | what would be the safest way to do a kernel upgrade on a box you can't have physical access to ? just apt-get install a kernel image? |
| 08:59.16 | simonrvn | define "via daemon" |
| 08:59.34 | jethr0 | simonrvn: for the record, CyBeR_GeeK is brasilian and has limited english skills |
| 08:59.37 | darkness | Hey folks i want to edit my sshd_config file which needs su permissions hows best to edit this. I guess chmod 777 /sshd_config is not good? Also if someone has su logged in remotely via ssh and you then locally log off and discconect from the web, change root and log back on, how come the guy using the remote ssh still has root ? |
| 08:59.52 | simonrvn | darkness: no it isn't good |
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| 09:00.28 | g4rf | hi |
| 09:00.31 | simonrvn | CyBeR_GeeK: do mean start it from the command line (prompt), or start it via its init script? |
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| 09:00.49 | darkness | Whats the best way simonrvn? |
| 09:00.59 | colde89 | why cold i find a usb-scanner with scanimage -L as root but not as user? |
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| 09:01.35 | simonrvn | darkness: install sudo and read man sudoers; and edit the sudoers file via visudo |
| 09:01.59 | simonrvn | though the rest of what you said isn't very clear... |
| 09:02.17 | g4rf | I'm looking for install woody in a shuttleX, there is no cdrom so I use a external usb cdrom, I create partion etc... but when I want to install base system, I have no cdrom choose only floopy and mounted filesystem, I have start with bf24 who can do for have cdrom ? |
| 09:02.19 | streuner | simonrvn: hi |
| 09:02.23 | simonrvn | hi |
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| 09:03.22 | Phu_Bhar | Hi all, I'm running a sarge 2.4.25-1 kernel. Can someone please tell me what needs doing to get eth0 in place? dpkg-reconfigure etherconf just says that it can't find eth0, but I'm using the same hardware from a live CD, soo the circuitry obviously works |
| 09:03.25 | streuner | g4rf: Did you google for usb iso? |
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| 09:03.47 | streuner | g4rf: what does ig say about? |
| 09:03.57 | g4rf | streuner: I can burn any iso for the momment :/ |
| 09:03.59 | sepski | Phu_Bhar, modprobe your nic's module, then reconfigure |
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| 09:04.18 | streuner | g4rf: floppies? |
| 09:04.29 | g4rf | streuner: nop :/ |
| 09:04.31 | Phu_Bhar | sepski: which is the nic's module - I'm just a user |
| 09:04.37 | darkness | Well someone has a shell account on my box. I gave him temp root access which he connects via sshd. Now i tried to remove root access to him by logging off debian and booting without internet access.Then i changed to passwd. However on logging on the guy still had access to root? |
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| 09:04.40 | streuner | !rube goldberg install |
| 09:04.40 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 09:04.51 | danikata | hi |
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| 09:04.58 | sepski | Phu_Bhar, that depends on what network card you have, if you have no clue then you can use lspci and it should say what cards you have |
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| 09:05.28 | streuner | g4rf: buy a floppy or CDROM or whatever |
| 09:05.30 | darkness | Plus i gather to install sudo i just apt-get install sudo? |
| 09:05.38 | danikata | why my konqueror couldnt open windows network, but i can do it in nautilus ? |
| 09:05.53 | g4rf | streuner: seems to be the solution ... |
| 09:05.57 | Omnipotence | Hi, I wanna install a GUI on debian but dont know which one to chose. can any one help? |
| 09:06.03 | sepski | g4rf, the kernel you booted from cd obviously cant find your usb cdrom, i would have tried useing a console, and mount the cd manualy, and select the install from mounted filesystem option in the installer |
| 09:06.04 | jaymzh | darkness: that's the beauty of debian |
| 09:06.25 | Phu_Bhar | sepski: I think its a Broadcom 4400 or suchlike, thanx, I'll give it a try |
| 09:06.35 | g4rf | sepski: mount /dev/sda /target/cdrom ? |
| 09:07.00 | sepski | g4rf, well if /dev/sda is your cdrom then yes |
| 09:07.18 | g4rf | sepski: I try |
| 09:07.22 | g4rf | sepski: thx |
| 09:07.33 | Phu_Bhar | 'Bye for now |
| 09:08.06 | sepski | Phu_Bhar, the livecd you talked about will have the correct module loaded use lsmod to find out witch |
| 09:08.17 | Omnipotence | can any tell me a good GUI for debian plz |
| 09:08.33 | sepski | Omnipotence, i use /bin/bash a lot |
| 09:08.50 | Omnipotence | does it support irc? |
| 09:08.55 | sepski | Omnipotence, yes |
| 09:09.03 | Omnipotence | cool thx ill give it a go |
| 09:09.25 | chealer | ugh |
| 09:09.38 | sepski | Omnipotence, you should try installing x-window-system i think |
| 09:10.15 | chealer | Omnipotence: maybe you're asking for a desktop environmen? |
| 09:10.22 | chealer | s/environmen/environment |
| 09:11.01 | Omnipotence | yea |
| 09:11.19 | Phu_Bhar | sepski: there's something called b44 (size: 22532). Does that sound likely? |
| 09:11.30 | Omnipotence | im still a bit new at linux |
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| 09:11.36 | valdyn_ | !broadcom |
| 09:11.36 | dpkg | well, broadcom is a NIC that's not supported in 2.4.18, but is apparently supported in 2.4.25 (module is named "b44"), or may also be tg3 driver, or see broadcom woody, or evil scum producing undocumented HW and violating GPL. |
| 09:11.42 | sepski | Phu_Bhar, iv never had a broadcom card, but it's not unlikely |
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| 09:11.53 | chealer | Omnipotence: are you using sarge and have enough free disk space? |
| 09:12.13 | Omnipotence | can u tell me how to install that? im using putty to connect to my linux server |
| 09:12.18 | chealer | !u |
| 09:12.18 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 09:12.47 | sepski | Omnipotence, a server have no need for a desktop enviorment ususaly |
| 09:13.05 | hoe | hi all, mayb' a q on wrong place: can I include user=fixedIP in 2 CBQ classes to allow him gain bandtidth from both classes as sum at moment? |
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| 09:13.38 | Phu_Bhar | sepski: I'm wondering why it went down in the first place. It worked for several days, only to disappear after doing an apt-get (I forget what, it was bout 4 days ago) |
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| 09:13.55 | sepski | hoe: i think #lartc on slashnet might be more apropriate |
| 09:13.55 | Omnipotence | yea i know but i wanna using it also as a irc server to host files |
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| 09:14.10 | sepski | hoe, or lartc on freenode |
| 09:14.16 | hoe | sepski: sounds great, ty |
| 09:14.48 | sepski | Omnipotence, irc server dont need desktop enviorment either. |
| 09:15.03 | Omnipotence | clue me in then plz |
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| 09:15.42 | directhex|work | Omnipotence, also for reference, putty can't display any pretty graphical applications on your windows pc without intervention, so i'm not sure what you'd gain by installing graphical stuff |
| 09:16.10 | Omnipotence | right-o cheers... wont be installing one then |
| 09:16.15 | sepski | Omnipotence, if you want to host files you usualy want a ftp server, irc server is for chatting networks |
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| 09:17.25 | Omnipotence | im gunna have to read up on ftp for debian then |
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| 09:17.57 | directhex|work | Omnipotence, "apt-cache search somethingtosearchfor", then "apt-get install searchresult1 searchresult2". e.g. "apt-cache search irc server" -> "apt-get install ircd-ircu" |
| 09:19.00 | Phu_Bhar | Thanx & 'bye again |
| 09:19.05 | Omnipotence | cheers, thats for a irc client im guessing |
| 09:19.20 | chealer | Omnipotence: an IRC server |
| 09:19.23 | directhex|work | Omnipotence, no, if you wanted an irc client you'd search for & install an irc client |
| 09:19.45 | Omnipotence | well i wanna be able to do both so id need both |
| 09:19.56 | Omnipotence | thx |
| 09:20.03 | Guerin | Omnipotence: no, you don't want to be able to do both |
| 09:20.17 | Guerin | Omnipotence: just exactly what does your omnipotence relate to? |
| 09:20.30 | Guerin | because it sure as shit ain't anything to do with intellect |
| 09:20.33 | Omnipotence | heh not linux :D |
| 09:21.05 | Omnipotence | hey calm down m8 less of the insults |
| 09:21.21 | Guerin | !tw@ |
| 09:21.21 | dpkg | i guess tw@ is ( What we think of people who use 'gr8' and other such nonsense words. ) |
| 09:22.10 | Omnipotence | u think im a twat cos im learning how to use linux... u started some where 2 |
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| 09:23.31 | Guerin | no, i think you're a tw@ bc0z u c4n'7 use reel ingl15h |
| 09:23.37 | netvoodoo | hi all |
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| 09:28.05 | FlimFlamMan | just the usual insult-laden douche-fest on #debian i see. |
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| 09:28.21 | e2e | Hi, my nfs server starting takes about 2 minutes at boot time. This was about 20-30 seconds before this, what could be the problem? |
| 09:28.32 | gypsymauro | what's the best way to allow a few users to upload file on a server? chrooted ftp? or there is something easier (webdav.. i dunno) |
| 09:28.40 | poison | hi, I have a strange problem with my postfix configuration. I've build postfix 2.2.2 from source with TLS, MySQL and SASL support and now sometimes when I have a catchall address it works fine and sometimes (with another domain) I get error 554: Recipient address rejected: relay access denied |
| 09:28.41 | streuner | e2e: DNS issue? |
| 09:28.45 | e2e | And also at boot time i get bad "bad direction dropping request" errors |
| 09:28.54 | e2e | streuner: ? how |
| 09:29.05 | Guerin | FlimFlamMan: douching is unhealthy |
| 09:29.10 | streuner | e2e: well, edit /etc/hosts |
| 09:29.30 | adaran | i have a dir with "drwxrwx---" permissions. i'm in the same group as the owner of the dir and the dir is also of that gid. however, i cannot ls it or cd into it (from one directory below) |
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| 09:29.37 | Guerin | gypsymauro: anonymous ftp with a read-protected upload dir |
| 09:29.46 | e2e | streuner: my exports file has only one line : /directory 192.168.0.0/24(rw) |
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| 09:30.18 | streuner | e2e: do you fix DNS issues in exports? |
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| 09:30.22 | poison_ | hmz |
| 09:30.43 | Guerin | poison_: #postfix |
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| 09:31.01 | e2e | streuner: I don't know, what can i do with /etc/hosts, or how can solve this dns problem |
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| 09:31.20 | poison | Guerin: there's nobody home |
| 09:31.20 | Phu_Bhar | Hi again |
| 09:31.29 | Guerin | poison: try adding your client to my_networks and allow it |
| 09:31.47 | Guerin | poison: patience; #postfix does have some good regulars |
| 09:32.00 | Phu_Bhar | sepski: Many thanx - insmod b44 brought it up immediately |
| 09:32.16 | poison | Guerin: do I have to add all the smtp servers on the world to my_networks? I'm sending with the smtp of my provider to my own mailserver |
| 09:32.19 | poison | Guerin: ok |
| 09:32.31 | streuner | e2e: 127.0.0.1 knusper localhost |
| 09:32.31 | streuner | 192.168.1.11 zerberus |
| 09:32.50 | Phu_Bhar | 'bye now |
| 09:33.00 | streuner | e2e: where 'zerberus' is your client, just name it in /etc/hosts |
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| 09:33.19 | Guerin | poison: well, postfix, set up sanely, will only relay for those hosts you tell it to. |
| 09:33.31 | e2e | streuner: Do i have to add this line for each client? |
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| 09:33.39 | Guerin | poison: this you must know? |
| 09:33.47 | poison | Guerin: I had no problem with my former configuration, the problems started when I upgraded to 2.2.2 and SASL |
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| 09:33.53 | streuner | e2e: how many do you have? |
| 09:34.01 | e2e | streuner: 7 |
| 09:34.07 | streuner | well |
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| 09:34.46 | poison | although I changed nothing to my configuration files |
| 09:35.01 | Guerin | poison: you can use sasl to authenticate, or you can allow a smtp server explicitly and not authenticate |
| 09:35.46 | Guerin | poison: I do both; I have my own ip at home and work in my_networks, and I can relay directly through my smtp server by using a sasl-capable mail client |
| 09:35.47 | poison | Guerin: yeah I know, but that's not the problem I guess because I disabled sasl in my config files and it still doesnt work |
| 09:36.14 | Guerin | poison: the question is: why are you using your isp's smtp server when you clearly run your own? |
| 09:36.26 | poison | Guerin: I have two domains: bbme.be and poison.be; my catchall on bbme.be does work perfectly and my catchall on poison.be doesn't work and they are configured exactly the same :s |
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| 09:36.48 | poison | Guerin: because other people must be able to mail me |
| 09:36.55 | Guerin | poison: if they truly ARE configured identically, then it beats me. |
| 09:37.17 | adaran | now this is weird: i can't cd /somedir (rwxrwx---) although i'm the the correct group - if i do "su", then "su (me)" again, i suddenly can. any suggestions? |
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| 09:37.26 | poison | Guerin: they are both the same in my mysql tables |
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| 09:37.44 | Guerin | poison: something else must be different, I guess. |
| 09:37.50 | streuner | adaran: man chmod |
| 09:38.14 | poison | Guerin: I guess that too :) |
| 09:38.22 | adaran | streuner, did. does not explain why user adaran cannot enter the dir, but su adaran can =/ |
| 09:38.26 | spume | anyone know the RedHat equiv of "killall -HUP inetd", I'm trying to get my hosts file re-read without stopping the network (other clients are still logged in) |
| 09:38.44 | streuner | adaran: well, with su you are 'root'... |
| 09:38.58 | adaran | streuner, no "su adaran" |
| 09:39.13 | streuner | adaran: in order to cd to that dir you have to chmod o+x the folder |
| 09:39.16 | adaran | streuner, as in whoami -> "adaran" . then "su adaran" (enter adaran's password) -> works |
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| 09:39.47 | streuner | adaran: su=superuser |
| 09:39.49 | adaran | streuner, whoami -> "adaran" (again) . cd /thedir now works |
| 09:39.50 | streuner | aka root |
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| 09:40.15 | amorphix | hi guys |
| 09:40.16 | adaran | streuner, if i invoke "su adaran", i become adaran, not root. |
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| 09:40.40 | streuner | adaran: just chmod that folder with x |
| 09:40.43 | bbrazil | adaran: use 'id', not whoami. whoami might be reading an enviroment var |
| 09:40.52 | streuner | adaran: eXecutable |
| 09:40.59 | amorphix | I've noticed my Debian system is using 33Mhz for the bus speed but my bus speed is 66Mhz, how do i change it? |
| 09:41.15 | adaran | bbrazil, ty |
| 09:41.37 | zinx | amorphix: you don't. it's very unlikely that you have a 66MHz IDE bus |
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| 09:41.53 | spume | amorphix: surely it's a bios setting, not software |
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| 09:42.41 | amorphix | zinx: but it says here in my systems user guide |
| 09:43.16 | adaran | bbrazil, hmm i noticed that when adding a user a to a group, the change doesn't carry over to already logged in sessions |
| 09:43.25 | zinx | amorphix: what is it that it says there in your system's user guide? |
| 09:43.37 | adaran | bbrazil, that seems to my problem here, too (old session) |
| 09:44.00 | adaran | bbrazil, however, groups seems to read /etc/group, showing me the "correct" group list, id reports the required group as missing. thanks |
| 09:44.02 | largezhang | Hi all. One question: how long does it take to compile an almost-default 2.6.8 kernel on a Pentium IV 2.0G machine? |
| 09:44.07 | hoe | sepski: hi again, there is no #lartc on slashnet.org:6667 or is it slashnet.net which don't have ircd on any default port? |
| 09:44.10 | amorphix | oh i screwed up |
| 09:44.15 | jm_ | largezhang: say 10 minutes or more |
| 09:44.17 | adaran | is there any way to "re-read" the environment in a shell (as in what groups i am in?) |
| 09:44.20 | sepski | hoe, no i also said there is a lartc on freenode |
| 09:44.23 | SlayerXP | largezhang: it takes this long <---------------------> |
| 09:44.28 | SlayerXP | largezhang: not to scale |
| 09:44.30 | amorphix | zinx: I was looking at CPU|Cache|Memory, those are 66Mhz bus speed |
| 09:44.32 | hoe | sepski: freenode ok, but slashnet ko :) |
| 09:44.40 | bbrazil | adaran: this is correct,log out and log back in. or use newgrp |
| 09:44.41 | jm_ | adaran: newgrp and/or sg |
| 09:44.45 | amorphix | zinx: PCI Bus is 33Mhz |
| 09:44.55 | sepski | hoe, i think the mailinglist is more active then the channel |
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| 09:45.11 | zinx | amorphix: different things. |
| 09:45.11 | hoe | sepski: talking about freenode now? |
| 09:45.17 | amorphix | ok |
| 09:45.18 | adaran | jm_, thx |
| 09:45.31 | hoe | sepski: i suppose, just to assure |
| 09:46.03 | amorphix | zinx: do you know what the difference is between FSC (Fast Color Scan) and TFT LCDs? |
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| 09:46.23 | largezhang | O thanks. And what is the difference between kernel-tree-2.6.10 and kernel-source-2.6.10? Can the former be used for compiling? |
| 09:46.36 | Guerin | huzzah for bubble & squeak |
| 09:46.42 | Guerin | that's what I say |
| 09:46.55 | Guerin | the perfect bachelor food |
| 09:46.59 | Guerin | well |
| 09:47.02 | Guerin | besides pizza |
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| 09:47.18 | amorphix | u guys are funny |
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| 09:48.02 | streuner | Guerin: wtf is 'bubble & squeak'? |
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| 09:48.49 | Shadur | Augh, rxvt somehow ignores the alt modifier key. Probably something I fucked up somewhere but I have no idea where to start looking. suggestions? |
| 09:48.58 | Guerin | largezhang: apt-cache show kernel-tree-2.6.10 |
| 09:49.08 | sml | anyone know why i'd get on boot : init "cX" respawning too fast disabled for 5 minutes, where X = all my tty's ? |
| 09:49.21 | jm_ | Shadur: rxvt has -mod switch, or modifier resource where you can set this |
| 09:49.26 | Guerin | streuner: leftover potatoes, onions, cabbage, meat, random other stuff, sauteed together in a pan and eaten with beer |
| 09:49.30 | streuner | !listvals respawing |
| 09:49.32 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'respawing' by value returned no results. |
| 09:49.45 | streuner | !listvals respawning |
| 09:49.47 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'respawning' by value (1): nutscape problems. |
| 09:49.50 | amorphix | Guerin must be british |
| 09:49.53 | sml | streuner: I know what respawning means.. my problem is that I cant get a tty! |
| 09:49.58 | sml | i.e. I cant get into my system. |
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| 09:50.01 | alekseyv | Hi |
| 09:50.24 | Guerin | streuner: i'm sure germans must eat something like this |
| 09:50.33 | sml | Guerin: lol. |
| 09:50.37 | Guerin | amorphix: nope, I'm a filthy colonial |
| 09:50.42 | amorphix | hehehe |
| 09:50.44 | Shadur | jm: Just tried that. Doesn't seem to have worked. |
| 09:50.57 | streuner | Guerin: sure |
| 09:51.06 | amorphix | saurkraut |
| 09:51.26 | Guerin | streuner: i used to make it with rookworst and sauerkraut all the time |
| 09:51.34 | amorphix | soggy bubble and squeak? |
| 09:51.39 | streuner | Guerin: its called in german 'Bratkartoffeln' |
| 09:51.46 | Guerin | streuner: that makes sense |
| 09:52.07 | Guerin | amorphix: the beer goes in the mouth, not in the pan |
| 09:52.18 | amorphix | :P |
| 09:52.20 | streuner | sml: what the hell did you do? |
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| 09:52.35 | alekseyv | Who knows this error: Running autoconf... |
| 09:52.35 | alekseyv | configure.in:4: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE |
| 09:53.04 | alekseyv | I don't see anything in the forums |
| 09:53.06 | marinos | its really strange ...when i use applications using glx network locks ... |
| 09:53.19 | alekseyv | i see the same error but no a reply |
| 09:53.20 | amorphix | l8rz guys |
| 09:53.37 | sml | streuner: nuffin. i came in this mornign and every app was segfaulting. so i rebooted. |
| 09:53.54 | Guerin | sml: memtest86 |
| 09:54.01 | sml | streuner: i've used a <gasp> knoppix live cd to get back on the system and i've doen the usual memtest, fsck etc |
| 09:54.01 | Shadur | ... Ah, that explains it. mrxvt uses the alt/number modifier to switch tabs. |
| 09:54.03 | marinos | ... i have to reset the ethernet device |
| 09:54.05 | sml | Guerin: already done ;) |
| 09:54.27 | sml | Guerin: in fact im even running it again now ! |
| 09:54.43 | Guerin | heh |
| 09:54.45 | sml | i've checked inittab and its fine not borked. |
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| 09:54.54 | Guerin | sml: you need to run it for about 24 hours at a time |
| 09:54.55 | sml | god *knows* what's run. i suspect a hardware problem. |
| 09:55.05 | sml | s/run/wrong. |
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| 09:55.25 | Guerin | sml: I blame hardware, too. typically segfaults mean bad ram. Leave it running. |
| 09:55.41 | Guerin | sml: oh wait, you can boot knoppix? |
| 09:56.07 | sml | Guerin: I can boot knoppix. I did use a debian disk but i didn't have enough tools on it.. so I had a knoppix cd lying about so I thought I'd use that. |
| 09:56.15 | sml | Guerin: knoppix works fine, which is bloody strange |
| 09:56.42 | sml | i then mounted my old partitions, chrooted and took a look around. everything seems fine. even perms on agetty i checked. |
| 09:56.43 | Shadur | Aaah, that fixed it. |
| 09:57.26 | sml | at the moment im waiting for memtest86 to finish (for the 2nd time). I did even suspect a corrupt filesystem however i've run fsck.ext3, and fsck. |
| 09:57.26 | Guerin | sml: the other cause of segfaults can be a corrupted libc - consider cleaning and reinstalling that |
| 09:57.33 | Guerin | you want to back yo shit up, though |
| 09:57.37 | sml | Guerin: ok.... good idea. didn't think of that |
| 09:57.55 | sml | Guerin: it doesn't have anything important on it. its a laptop I use for watching DVDs ;) |
| 09:58.08 | sml | I'm more concerned that I might need to get the laptop fixed! |
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| 09:58.15 | Shadur | Next trick: Convince this anti-aliased font to play nicely with ncurses and mutt's ascii art controls. |
| 09:58.19 | sml | or buy some new ram. :) |
| 09:58.39 | Guerin | sml: if knoppix works, I doubt your ram is bad. Knoppix LIVES in ram. |
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| 09:59.15 | sml | Guerin: knoppix LIVED in ram.. im basically using a knoppix kernel on a debian filesystem at the moment. |
| 09:59.30 | sml | i've chrooted out of the knoppix environment. |
| 09:59.42 | Guerin | sml: even so... |
| 09:59.59 | Shadur | Ah, perfect. |
| 10:00.02 | Shadur | Well, sort of. |
| 10:00.10 | Guerin | something can be sort-of perfect? |
| 10:00.19 | Guerin | isn't that like a little bit dead? |
| 10:00.23 | sml | Guerin: well...... why would getty not run, i cant think of any ideas. maybe i should run it console less, and ssh in. remove all the cX lines from inittab ? |
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| 10:01.13 | Guerin | sml: anything's worth a crack |
| 10:01.31 | eerr | is there a way to check if i have quota support compiled into my kernel? |
| 10:01.50 | sml | Guerin: its gonna be a fun morning, i can tell. |
| 10:01.54 | s-toned | how do I pipe the output of n tab tab (422 possibilities) ? |
| 10:02.03 | streuner | eerr: grep foo your_kernel_config? |
| 10:02.13 | jm_ | s-toned: pipe it? |
| 10:02.15 | Guerin | s-toned: |less |
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| 10:02.33 | sml | s-toned: use find instead of tab tab, and use exec ls -l {}\; |
| 10:02.59 | fusion | Is there a way to have apt clear its cache? Whenever I run apt-get update I get some very odd error and the filesystem goes into read only mode |
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| 10:03.32 | Shadur | Okay, the problem I'm still having is that when I use xft fonts, ncurses screws up as seen in http://hiryuu.systemec.nl/~shadur/multichars.png ; I recall having this problem before but I can't for the life of me remember how I fixed it short of going back to non-antialiased fonts which I'd rather not do. Suggestions? |
| 10:03.44 | s-toned | Guerin: but the possibilities will be displayed after the second tab. | less will find things with less* |
| 10:04.07 | Guerin | s-toned: ohhh, I see |
| 10:04.35 | jm_ | s-toned: why do you want to pipe this? |
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| 10:04.55 | s-toned | jm_: pipe into less or grep |
| 10:04.57 | directhex|work | Shadur, what's wrong in that image? |
| 10:05.05 | fusion | argh it did it again.. |
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| 10:05.26 | directhex|work | fusion, apt-get clean |
| 10:05.38 | Guerin | directhex|work: the boxes |
| 10:05.43 | fusion | yeah but is it normal for apt to make my root fs go into read only mode?! |
| 10:05.53 | Guerin | fusion: negatory |
| 10:05.55 | s-toned | sml: the autocompletion works in many different cases -> a different find 'something' in every case would be necessary |
| 10:06.16 | fusion | Its been happening for a while, I was kind of hoping that it was just a bad update |
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| 10:06.34 | Guerin | fusion: that's typically filesystem coorruption |
| 10:06.43 | fusion | would fsck fix that? |
| 10:06.51 | jm_ | s-toned: well bash will use its own pager by default |
| 10:06.54 | s-toned | couldn't I redirect stdout or stderr or something like that to get the autocompletion output ? |
| 10:06.55 | fusion | or should I not bother and just do a reformat / repartition |
| 10:06.56 | directhex|work | Guerin, locale issue, surely? |
| 10:07.20 | Shadur | directhex|work: It should look like http://hiryuu.systemec.nl/~shadur/multichars-right.png -- and does, when I use gnome-terminal |
| 10:07.26 | Guerin | fusion: maybe. shutdown -Fr now |
| 10:07.31 | jm_ | s-toned: well no, it's a shell internal thing |
| 10:07.43 | fusion | I have done that |
| 10:07.44 | fusion | and rebooted |
| 10:07.50 | aardvark | directhex|work: LANG="RU_RU"? |
| 10:07.54 | fusion | its not crucial data |
| 10:08.19 | Shadur | directhex|work: But then, multi-gnome-terminal only uses old-style fonts and lets me specify the exact charset (iso-8859-15); xft doesn't accept that, it seems. |
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| 10:08.29 | directhex|work | Shadur, 404 |
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| 10:09.04 | Shadur | er, multichar-right.png |
| 10:09.11 | fusion | is fsck / sufficient (it is currently in read only mode) |
| 10:09.25 | serj | i did apt-get install kernel-patch-grsecurity2 and now i have /usr/src/patch but don't know how to aply it to my kernel source tree some help pls! |
| 10:09.26 | directhex|work | Shadur, this is a woody machine? |
| 10:09.30 | Shadur | Nope, sid |
| 10:09.34 | s-toned | jm_: can I substitute the pager? export PAGER=less didn't do |
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| 10:09.53 | sml | Guerin: im getting "Bus error" every time i run a command now. |
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| 10:10.20 | jidder | anyone here willing to help me with prerouting? i cant get DC to work in active mode behind my debian |
| 10:10.22 | jm_ | s-toned: don't think so |
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| 10:10.31 | serj | i did apt-get install kernel-patch-grsecurity2 and now i have /usr/src/patch but don't know how to aply it to my kernel source tree some help pls! |
| 10:10.39 | sml | jidder: DC? |
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| 10:10.48 | jidder | direct connect client |
| 10:11.11 | aardvark | sml: warez0rs |
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| 10:11.16 | e-spy | why by default have apache in config alias /images .. then in virtual domains /images directory is redirecte to /usr/share/images (whay, hot to fix it) |
| 10:11.36 | Guerin | sml: fucked ide? |
| 10:11.42 | serj | i did apt-get install kernel-patch-grsecurity2 and now i have /usr/src/patch but don't know how to aply it to my kernel source tree some help pls! |
| 10:11.52 | Guerin | sml: swap cables with your cd, which clearly works |
| 10:11.54 | sml | aardvark: lol |
| 10:12.00 | serj | hey oh patch -p1 < patch dir may be |
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| 10:12.05 | sml | Guerin: its a laptop. |
| 10:12.11 | marcel__ | how do i convert a desktop system to a bare terminal based system? EG. get rid of all the X stuff |
| 10:12.12 | Guerin | oh |
| 10:12.15 | Guerin | badness |
| 10:12.25 | jethr0 | serj: man make-kpkg |
| 10:12.33 | jidder | so far ive tried iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 1447 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.2:1447 |
| 10:12.34 | Guerin | marcel__: apt-get remove --purge xlibs |
| 10:12.36 | jidder | and udp |
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| 10:13.56 | Guerin | marcel__: hrm, that might not do it on its own |
| 10:14.53 | jidder | do i have to reload the rules in some way maybe? |
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| 10:15.43 | marcel__ | i need to get rid of all gnome kde etc stuff |
| 10:15.52 | marcel__ | Theres a lot of crap here |
| 10:15.54 | sepski | jidder, no you dont. if you dont know iptables intimatly, use shorewall |
| 10:15.56 | madjpm | hello |
| 10:15.59 | Guerin | yeah |
| 10:16.00 | directhex|work | !remove kde |
| 10:16.01 | dpkg | from memory, remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 10:16.03 | Guerin | !remove gnome |
| 10:16.03 | dpkg | from memory, remove gnome is apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome") |
| 10:16.04 | directhex|work | !remove gnome |
| 10:16.07 | Expander | shorewall is ok |
| 10:16.09 | Guerin | !woah |
| 10:16.09 | dpkg | methinks woah is the wisdom of keanu |
| 10:16.10 | directhex|work | damn you Guerin |
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| 10:16.24 | Guerin | directhex|work: we did one each |
| 10:16.46 | sml | Guerin: i think its an ide fault that affects the cdrom AND harddisk. |
| 10:16.48 | jidder | sepski. yeah it has crossed my mind to use it, maybe its the best if i try it out. thanks |
| 10:16.51 | sml | Guerin: ide controller ? |
| 10:16.58 | Guerin | sml: bye bye laptop |
| 10:17.02 | sml | Guerin: :'( |
| 10:17.27 | sepski | jidder, if you run into problems then www.shorewall.net have good docs/and examples |
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| 10:17.43 | jidder | thanks |
| 10:18.35 | eerr | streuner: thanks, sometimes the obvious is not so obvious. |
| 10:19.25 | streuner | np |
| 10:19.26 | serj | i do kernel-patch/all/apply/grsecurity2 in the toplevel kernel dir but it says No "Greater Security for Linux 2.4 and 2.6" patch found for kernel version 2.6.8 now i see that there is a patch included for 2.6.7 but there is no kernel-source-2.6.7 in the dpkg repository |
| 10:19.40 | serj | i just want to make it the proper deian way |
| 10:19.51 | serj | not just recompile my kernel and boot it |
| 10:20.02 | serj | i want that neat initrd.img etc |
| 10:20.27 | serj | how how the hell am i supposed to get a grsec-ed kernel |
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| 10:21.32 | Shadur | Q: Does mrxvt support UTF-8 locale/encoding method? |
| 10:21.33 | Shadur | A: Not now. This is a planned work and hopefully will be supported |
| 10:21.34 | Shadur | in the next development branch (0.5.x). |
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| 10:21.52 | luulis | serj: debian has outdated grsecurity patches, you have to download and apply them yourself |
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| 10:22.29 | serj | luulis, ok but how do i do the kernel boot with initrd.img |
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| 10:22.36 | serj | the debian way |
| 10:22.47 | linuxfreck | initrd is useless for self-compiled kernels |
| 10:22.49 | chealer | yay, 2.6.11 images! |
| 10:22.54 | linuxfreck | !kp |
| 10:22.54 | dpkg | rumour has it, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 10:22.58 | appaji | I have dictionaries-common installed and /usr/share/dict/words in a link to /etc/dictionaries-common/words, but the link is dangling. |
| 10:23.09 | appaji | would this be a bug? |
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| 10:26.36 | directhex|work | chealer, they function. |
| 10:26.51 | chealer | directhex|work: also? :) |
| 10:27.04 | directhex|work | chealer, they support infiniband |
| 10:27.20 | directhex|work | Linux version 2.6.11-9-amd64-k8 (root@athlon.lowpingbastards.de) (gcc version 3.4.4 20050314 (prerelease) (Debian 3.4.3-12)) #1 Sun Apr 3 18:09:29 CEST 2005 |
| 10:27.27 | chealer | I just want to see if a vesafb bug is fixed actually |
| 10:27.34 | directhex|work | chealer, anything specific? |
| 10:27.40 | chealer | uhu...amd64! |
| 10:27.49 | directhex|work | chealer, ever tried using vesafb at 1600x1200? |
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| 10:28.49 | chealer | directhex|work: no, the framebuffer doesn't work by default. there's a bug that makes vesafb load (and I didn't figure out how to keep it from loading), but vesafb0 (which seems to be a module required for /dev/fb0) fails to load |
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| 10:29.14 | chealer | that was in 2.6.8 |
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| 10:29.49 | directhex|work | chealer, odd, it's walwys worked just fine for me, appending vga=792 to the kernel line in menu.lst justworks(tm) on all the machines i've tried |
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| 10:30.03 | directhex|work | chealer, and i appear to have a /dev/fb0 created by udev |
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| 10:30.26 | chealer | directhex|work: I don't append any kernel option |
| 10:30.44 | chealer | actually all I want is to disable it |
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| 10:31.05 | chealer | but maybe helping fix the /dev/fb0 problem is a first step |
| 10:31.29 | Lorvija | Heya, when running "w" i get segmentation fault... i've been getting it randomly so i run chkrootkit... it gave these abnormal lines: http://oma.sytes.net/kamaa/chkrootkitoutput.txt Should i be worried? (: |
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| 10:31.58 | forkqueue | Lorvija: Yes |
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| 10:32.09 | Lorvija | great, where to start? (: |
| 10:32.13 | soloflyer | YO! |
| 10:32.23 | largezhang | Hi. I am planning to enable cpu frequency scaling for Pentium M. Is there a kernel image with it enabled? In my 2.6.10, the CONFIG_X86_ACPI_CPUFREQ=m. Does it mean that I don't need to compile the kernel, but to 'activate' the module? If possible, how? Thanks |
| 10:32.35 | forkqueue | Lorvija: Removing the hard-disk(s) and re-building the box |
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| 10:33.05 | Lorvija | forkqueue argh... any way to find out which prosesses are hidden? |
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| 10:34.32 | directhex|work | largezhang, modprobe speedstep-centrino |
| 10:34.37 | Fade_To_Black | hi can anyone help me install the nvidia driver on my 2.6.10 kernel? |
| 10:34.39 | Ragan | Hello, I have a problem I didn't have before I installed Debian. Any help would be very welcome. |
| 10:34.48 | Ragan | After I installed Debian I've had problems with women swarming like ants to me wanting sex. I know it's because I switched to Debian as it weren't a problem before. It was fun in the beginning, but now it's really scarry. =( |
| 10:34.48 | directhex|work | and cpufreq-userspace |
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| 10:35.08 | directhex|work | !tell Fade_To_Black about nvidia one-liner |
| 10:35.08 | ugv | is there anyway to kill a user's process(everything)? |
| 10:35.27 | sml | Ragan: I had the same problem with gentoo. I installed it and everyone thought I was k-l33t. |
| 10:35.57 | soloflyer | ragan you have to set up your iptables to block that will fix the problem |
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| 10:36.27 | Ragan | sml: I tried Gentoo once, same problem, just in this case it were men. |
| 10:36.31 | adaran | Ragan, take advantage of it! traffic shaping and strict qos rules are your friends! |
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| 10:36.34 | sml | Ragan: lmao. |
| 10:36.38 | Ragan | soloflyer, thank, I'll give it a try |
| 10:37.07 | directhex|work | largezhang, i have cpu frequency scaling enabled on this athlon64 by way of the powernow-k8 and cpufreq-userspace modules, plus the powernowd daemon |
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| 10:38.41 | colde89 | why could i find a usb-scanner with scanimage -L as root but not as user? |
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| 10:40.33 | simonrvn | @tell anan -about root |
| 10:40.40 | Piglet | I'm having problems with updating exim on debian unstable.. On the config stage it displays a screen full of something that looks like a script file, and can seemingly only be quit with ctrl^c.. any ideas what might be causing this, or how to go about fixing it? |
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| 10:40.57 | directhex|work | colde89, your user isn't in the right group so lacks permissions on the device? |
| 10:41.02 | ugv | well, anyone? i need to kill all the process from one user because its running a bash fork bomb. |
| 10:41.04 | Ragan | It would be cool though to have sex. I just know mom will kick me out of the basement faster than you can say kernel panic if she finds out I'm having sex with hot nude females. |
| 10:41.23 | ugv | whats the fastest way to do it instead of killing the PID one by one? |
| 10:41.39 | directhex|work | pkill -u uid |
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| 10:44.50 | DarknessX | Piglet: I'm having the same issue |
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| 10:45.04 | DarknessX | but no idea on a solution just yet. |
| 10:45.10 | NOthsouth | hello, there is any debian repository with PostgreSQL 8 ? |
| 10:45.17 | DarknessX | and either way, time to go to class. |
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| 10:46.37 | ugv | # pkill -u 1001 |
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| 10:46.38 | ugv | pkill: 22560 - No such process |
| 10:47.06 | ugv | the list goes on ... ... plill: 4323 - No such process |
| 10:47.30 | sepski | ugv it just means that user 1001 had a ps 22560 that was closed before pkil had the chance to kill it, |
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| 10:48.28 | ugv | sepski, so its actually doing its job by kill all the user's process? because the system is really very laggy which i havent see the result of pkill -u UID. |
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| 10:48.55 | ugv | damn. |
| 10:48.56 | ugv | culture:~# uptime |
| 10:48.56 | ugv | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.41 | directhex|work | no wonder pkill's a bit slow off the mark =] |
| 10:49.46 | chealer | :D |
| 10:49.48 | soloflyer | hmm |
| 10:49.52 | sepski | ugv it should kill the ps that spawns all the others also so eventualy it should kill it |
| 10:49.53 | opqdonut | what is the apache2 DocumentRoot by default on debian? it isn't specified in the config files. |
| 10:50.31 | resiak | opqdonut: Look in sites_enabled |
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| 10:50.39 | largezhang | Hi. I wonder which command to use for suspend-to-disk. Thanks |
| 10:50.42 | resiak | opqdonut: Specifically, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ |
| 10:50.55 | sepski | !suspend |
| 10:50.55 | dpkg | i heard suspend is check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/ , no apm nor acpi is required |
| 10:51.20 | opqdonut | resiak: thanks |
| 10:51.30 | soloflyer | !qm |
| 10:51.31 | dpkg | from memory, qm is Quantum Mechanics: a new way of looking at physics, invented by Heisenberg, Dirac, Einstein, et al, in the beginning of the 20th century? |
| 10:51.37 | resiak | !tell soloflyer -about msgdpkg |
| 10:51.51 | soloflyer | kewl |
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| 10:53.46 | boukensya | hey guys. I tried #irssi for like 2 hours but no response. I was wondering once you have a dcc chat going with irssi how do you open it as a window so you can type stuff, such as ls etc.. |
| 10:54.00 | largezhang | sepski: suspend only hangs my term in 2.6.10 |
| 10:54.29 | sepski | largezhang, i just pointed you to the site i have never used it or have use for it myself |
| 10:54.36 | SlayerXP | boukensya: try using a more popular IRC client. |
| 10:54.38 | forkqueue | largezhang: man hibernate |
| 10:54.58 | boukensya | irssi is really popular |
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| 10:55.13 | boukensya | for a console irc client |
| 10:55.14 | adaran | boukensya, tried the manual? |
| 10:55.26 | boukensya | yeah.. tried the manual and heaps of docs online |
| 10:55.44 | SlayerXP | boukensya: so popular that no-one's been talking in the channel for "like 2 hours" |
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| 10:55.53 | raf256 | damn |
| 10:56.01 | raf256 | my BIOS seems not to recognize SCASII driver |
| 10:56.04 | boukensya | well there is heaps of people in the channel, they are just all dead |
| 10:56.04 | raf256 | but linux do |
| 10:56.15 | raf256 | so I installed GRUB (and OS) to SCASI disc sca |
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| 10:56.19 | Guerin | wtf is scasii? |
| 10:56.28 | raf256 | ..can I use like knoppix to install GRUB as well to hda? |
| 10:56.33 | forkqueue | Guerin: italian version of scsi? |
| 10:56.35 | Piglet | irssi, client of lurkers everywhere :D |
| 10:56.38 | rey | hi hello |
| 10:56.38 | Guerin | raf256: yes |
| 10:57.02 | raf256 | Guerin: whats the commend to install GRUB to hda1 ? |
| 10:57.16 | Guerin | raf256: grub-install /dev/hda |
| 10:57.26 | nevyn | word up to irssi |
| 10:57.27 | Guerin | raf256: you also need to know how to chroot |
| 10:57.44 | raf256 | and how to? to chroot ot /ev/sda apparently |
| 10:57.52 | boukensya | I think irssi is really good, I just can't work out this stupid fserve thing rahh |
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| 10:58.14 | Guerin | raf256: chroot into your real filesystem, then run grub-install and upddate-grub |
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| 10:58.42 | largezhang | forkqueue: I saw an option for suspend-to-disk in 2.6.8, but it disappears in 2.6.10 under acpi/acm. Is there such a module for suspend-to-disk in 2.6.10? |
| 11:00.15 | GCS | Hi. What would be the best patch/way to get (My)SQL support for Bind9? I would like to include _everything_ in the database. MySQL-Bind still have manual configuration needs for every new domain. |
| 11:00.32 | NOthsouth | when I install mysql by apt-get i don't type any password, how Did I know my user password? |
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| 11:01.24 | GCS | N0thsouth: user is root, and he is allowed to login without pass in the default installation I believe. So you must change it later on. |
| 11:01.26 | sepski | NOthsouth, it jsut grabbed your hashed password and installed that, so your mysql admin and root pw is the same |
| 11:01.47 | sepski | GCS, it's passwordless on install ? |
| 11:02.16 | Guerin | sepski: yes, and that's much more secure than using the root pass |
| 11:02.19 | NOthsouth | sepski? my password linux root? |
| 11:02.23 | Guerin | no |
| 11:02.34 | Guerin | by default there's no mysql root password |
| 11:02.40 | NOthsouth | humm |
| 11:02.45 | NOthsouth | :D |
| 11:02.52 | Guerin | set one yourself |
| 11:03.09 | GCS | sepski: Hmmm. As I can remember you must create a pass for it. But I may be wrong! Needs to check it. A second please. |
| 11:03.10 | amorphix | hi guys, does anyone know about memory types here? I need to check of my system can take PC2100 DDR ram modules.. my userguide says the system uses SDRAM, DIMM modules and the bus speed is 100Mhz |
| 11:03.24 | njan | amorphix, then no, it can't. |
| 11:03.27 | amorphix | :-( |
| 11:03.34 | amorphix | bus speed is too high? |
| 11:03.35 | Guerin | 2100 should be 133, right? |
| 11:03.40 | amorphix | yes i think so |
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| 11:03.59 | sepski | amorphix, SDRAM pc100 is a mamory type and that is not the same as PC2100 |
| 11:04.16 | amorphix | but in the userguide it says accessories, 256MB 133Mhz RAM |
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| 11:04.22 | amorphix | ah |
| 11:04.24 | Guerin | might work, then |
| 11:04.30 | sobersabre | hello... |
| 11:04.32 | njan | amorphix, if you find PC2100 SDram modules, you can use them |
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| 11:04.42 | amorphix | so i cant use DDR then? |
| 11:04.45 | njan | amorphix, but PC2100 DDR modules are running at 266MHz and are physically a different shape to the ones you need. |
| 11:04.48 | colde89 | directhex|work: the user is in scanner and in saned |
| 11:04.49 | njan | amorphix, no. Like I said. :) |
| 11:04.52 | amorphix | ok |
| 11:04.58 | njan | amorphix, DDR is not SDRAM. You want SDRAM. :) |
| 11:05.03 | sobersabre | do you know where i can see if a device driver is being coded/debugged ? |
| 11:05.08 | amorphix | this memory stuff is highly confusing |
| 11:05.10 | sepski | amorphix, it's rater easy, becouse the notches in the RAM socket wont allow you to insert DDR ram if your MB cant handle it |
| 11:05.19 | amorphix | ok |
| 11:05.24 | Guerin | sepski: haha |
| 11:05.27 | amorphix | DDR is for newer systems i guess |
| 11:05.30 | Guerin | that's pure bullshit, IME |
| 11:05.46 | Guerin | i have had to give many a stick or fam back because it wouldn't work |
| 11:05.47 | sepski | amorphix, no DDR is of older systems, DDR2 is for newer :) |
| 11:05.52 | amorphix | my system says it can only support max of 512MB in the two DIMM slots combined, that kinda sux eh? |
| 11:06.03 | GCS | sepski: Uff, yes it seems it is passwordless on default installs. |
| 11:06.03 | sobersabre | i am talking about Texas Instruments PCI7420/PCI7620 Dual Socket CardBus and Smart Card Cont. w/ 1394a-2000 OHCI Two-Port PHY/Link-Layer Cont. an |
| 11:06.07 | Guerin | amorphix: not if you have less than 512 ram |
| 11:06.24 | amorphix | i have 320MB at present but want to upgrade to 512 |
| 11:06.27 | sepski | Guerin, yes, you can run into ocasions but between DDR and SDRAM you cant fit one module in the others socket |
| 11:06.31 | sobersabre | the specs are available... but maybe somebody is already working on it .. |
| 11:06.49 | amorphix | 512MB seems rather limiting |
| 11:06.54 | amorphix | maybe i need to upgrade my PC |
| 11:07.05 | amorphix | :-/ |
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| 11:07.57 | Guerin | hurrah, time to set up my real computer |
| 11:08.43 | petemc | Guerin: new pc? |
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| 11:09.07 | amorphix | damn everything is DDR, its hard to find SRAM |
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| 11:09.50 | amorphix | I'm screwed |
| 11:10.08 | sepski | amorphix, prices on sdram is getting higer too it's more like antiques now |
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| 11:10.23 | petemc | amorphix: in the uk, you just contact crucial, tell them what machine you have - they sort everything else out |
| 11:10.42 | amorphix | ;-( |
| 11:10.48 | asuffield | assuming you're willing to pay lots |
| 11:11.02 | asuffield | matched memory is on average 2 to 5 times more expensive |
| 11:11.15 | Virtual | can I mount an windows extended partition in linux ? |
| 11:11.19 | amorphix | everything was good until the part about being willing to pay lots |
| 11:11.31 | amorphix | assuffield why? |
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| 11:11.46 | asuffield | because that's how the market works |
| 11:11.52 | amorphix | sux |
| 11:12.17 | amorphix | if my system says it can support 512MB using 256MB in the two slots, that means it cant take a single 512 stick right? |
| 11:12.32 | asuffield | who knows? probably |
| 11:12.45 | sepski | Virtual, you cant mount a extended partition in _ANY_ os, you need virtual partitions inside the extended to mount that |
| 11:12.45 | amorphix | phew |
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| 11:13.03 | NOthsouth | amorphix, what is the problem? |
| 11:13.13 | amorphix | buying 2 x 256MB seems to be cheaper than buying a single 512MB anyway |
| 11:13.23 | Fibergeek | Help... Xxserver won't start : /dev/psaux NO such device. What should I modprobe to fix this? Or what should I do anyway? |
| 11:13.25 | michael1234 | I have a file called run.sh How can I read the arguments into it |
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| 11:13.34 | amorphix | NOthsouth I'm figuring out memory upgrade options for my old system |
| 11:13.41 | Virtual | Fibergeek, try to set in Xserver config at mouse part : /dev/mouse |
| 11:13.55 | amorphix | i need more system power |
| 11:14.04 | amorphix | my system is just getting way too slow, the hdd is full |
| 11:14.11 | Fibergeek | another question : is there a txtbased IRC chat client? |
| 11:14.11 | soloflyer | what have you got |
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| 11:14.25 | soloflyer | bitchx is good console based irc |
| 11:14.27 | NOthsouth | what is your old system? |
| 11:14.31 | NOthsouth | and the upgrade? |
| 11:14.35 | Virtual | Fibergeek, yes: BitchX, ircII, sirc etc |
| 11:14.42 | Fibergeek | so I can run that without xserver? |
| 11:14.42 | amorphix | its a P3-600mhz i fink, 320mb/10gb |
| 11:14.47 | Virtual | Fibergeek, yes |
| 11:14.47 | Fibergeek | oh ok tnx |
| 11:14.50 | Piglet | I'm having problems with updating exim on debian unstable.. On the config stage it displays a screen full of something that looks like a script file, and can seemingly only be quit with ctrl^c.. any ideas what might be causing this, or how to go about fixing it? |
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| 11:15.11 | soloflyer | heh i use bitchx in a console window in x :) |
| 11:15.13 | petemc | Piglet: try pressing "q" instead of ^c |
| 11:15.13 | Virtual | amorphix, how much ram does the motherboard support |
| 11:15.14 | Virtual | ? |
| 11:15.22 | amorphix | NOthsouth: the upgrade would be a 512MB ram and 40 or 80GB hdd |
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| 11:15.28 | Virtual | soloflyer, it works in text based enviroment as well |
| 11:15.31 | amorphix | Virtual: only 512 :/ |
| 11:15.50 | NOthsouth | ok.. and what is the problem? |
| 11:15.57 | amorphix | 512 is nuffin in todays PC market |
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| 11:16.34 | Buckbeak | Can anybody tell me how to do command-line php from Woody. It looks as if it only supports web scripting. |
| 11:16.34 | soloflyer | yes i know this virtual, but i just like being able to use console windows in x |
| 11:16.38 | amorphix | maybe the upgrade will help get my system faster, or i'll have to upgrade the system |
| 11:16.45 | Piglet | petemc: it seems to just echo keys (incuding q) to the screen until ^c is pressed |
| 11:16.48 | douglas | Is there a debian package prebuilt for kernel 2.6.8 for the nVidia graphics driver (geforce 5700) |
| 11:16.50 | douglas | ? |
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| 11:17.00 | sepski | amorphix, your system isnt worth upgrading , get a new one :) |
| 11:17.06 | amorphix | ;-( |
| 11:17.19 | amorphix | what should I get? |
| 11:17.24 | directhex|work | douglas, no, no point, it's trivial to make one |
| 11:17.33 | petemc | Piglet: odd, does debconf work ok for configuring other apps |
| 11:17.47 | soloflyer | zif p3 600 aint plenty of power |
| 11:17.52 | douglas | directhex|work, not for me :( |
| 11:18.03 | joey_ | amorphix, ram makes your computer go faster, disk space just means you can store more stuff |
| 11:18.08 | directhex|work | douglas, so try reporting what it is you've done, and what it's doing wrong |
| 11:18.11 | sepski | amorphix, now that depends on your needs now dosnt it, but if you want new you look for ddr2 and pci-x |
| 11:18.14 | amorphix | maybe i can do better if i install Linux instead of Windows for workstation? |
| 11:18.24 | amorphix | ok |
| 11:18.25 | Virtual | sepski, cand you tell me how to set virtual partitions or something or should I copy everything from the extended partitions on logical one in windows and mount that? |
| 11:18.30 | Piglet | petemc: well it seemed to be working fine yes.. it's just the exim packages (and mutt which I'm guessing is related) that are not configured |
| 11:18.34 | directhex|work | sepski, dd2 only on slow-ass intels |
| 11:18.37 | douglas | well I downloaded the kernel sources for 2.6.8, will this kernel work? |
| 11:18.53 | soloflyer | what are u tring to do on yer wkstation |
| 11:18.53 | directhex|work | douglas, you're already doing things wrong. start at the beginning. |
| 11:18.54 | amorphix | sepski: I use this system for design and run Photoshop which needs alot of memory |
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| 11:19.23 | soloflyer | under windows xp? |
| 11:19.25 | sepski | Virtual, if you use the partition in windows then you already have a logical partition on your extended, just mount it |
| 11:19.36 | Mash | hallo |
| 11:19.38 | directhex|work | douglas, which kernel exactly are you running? (uname -r) |
| 11:19.47 | amorphix | I use Windows 98SE on this system |
| 11:19.49 | douglas | ok, I download the shell script from nvidia's website and tried to run it. It said it needed to compile the module, but it couldn't find the kernel sources so I just did that, but I decided to check for a package before I went on? |
| 11:19.53 | douglas | 2.6.8 |
| 11:19.53 | joey_ | amorphix, run top and see how much of your swap space is used |
| 11:19.57 | joey_ | o |
| 11:20.00 | directhex|work | douglas, nvidia installer will break your pc |
| 11:20.12 | amorphix | joey its a Windows system |
| 11:20.14 | adaran | douglas, use modules-assisant and nvidia-sources |
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| 11:20.29 | directhex|work | douglas, there is no debian kernel version 2.6.8. there's (for example) 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 11:20.29 | deus | does PLF got an debian source? |
| 11:20.56 | douglas | oh, how do I find out exactly which one then? |
| 11:21.20 | directhex|work | douglas, uname -r as i already said. that's your first strike. deviate from what i say twice more and i stop helping. |
| 11:21.22 | soloflyer | go to wininternals website |
| 11:21.36 | douglas | sorry... |
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| 11:22.06 | douglas | 2.6.8-2-686-smp |
| 11:22.18 | directhex|work | right. good. |
| 11:22.33 | directhex|work | !non-free sources |
| 11:22.33 | dpkg | well, non-free sources is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then apt-get update |
| 11:22.41 | directhex|work | douglas, do the above ^^ |
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| 11:23.02 | douglas | will do, hold on. |
| 11:23.04 | soloflyer | amorphix go to this url and download process explorer http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml |
| 11:23.21 | psyddicus | could someone help me with the gnome-volume-control? |
| 11:23.22 | soloflyer | it will allow you to see memory usage stats and swap usage etc |
| 11:23.35 | amorphix | soloflyer thanx |
| 11:23.51 | fibergeek | '/dev/mouse or /dev/psaux -> no such device |
| 11:24.05 | directhex|work | /dev/input/mice? |
| 11:24.19 | fibergeek | hmm lemme try |
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| 11:25.44 | amorphix | i can see where i need to upgrade using process explorer |
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| 11:25.48 | fibergeek | nope nothing |
| 11:26.18 | directhex|work | modprobe psmouse |
| 11:26.21 | douglas | directhex|work, ok, I did that. |
| 11:26.35 | Virtual | sepski, I have the partitions C: D: E: in windows, all diff partitions of hdd, on E: I have music and I want to access it... but I can only mount C: where the windows system is |
| 11:26.37 | directhex|work | !quick sid/sarge mix |
| 11:26.37 | dpkg | from memory, quick sid/sarge mix is echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf, open sources.list, duplicate your sarge lines and change one set to sid. then apt-get update, apt-get -t unstable install foo to install foo from sid rather than sarge (e.g. nvidia-glx) |
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| 11:27.54 | directhex|work | douglas, read the above. you want to do the "echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf" part, then re-edit sources.list, duplicating the deb and deb-src pair changing one set to "sid" instead of "sarge" or "testing" |
| 11:27.54 | sepski | Virtual, cat /proc partitions, it should tell you what you have available, and you can try mounting those |
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| 11:28.24 | Virtual | thanks sepski... |
| 11:28.28 | fibergeek | directhex|work : it I did but the normal comments about blabla IRQ # didn't appear so I don't think it probed right |
| 11:28.49 | directhex|work | douglas, for example, on mine, i have deb http://something sarge main contrib non-free; deb-src http://something sarge main contrib non-free; deb http://something sid main contrib non-free; deb-src http://something sid main contrib non-free |
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| 11:29.17 | nagual | ooh |
| 11:29.20 | nagual | new bash in sarge |
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| 11:29.44 | amorphix | are AMD processors inferior to Intel? |
| 11:30.10 | douglas | directhex|work, what if I edited mine to have unstable instead of sarge? |
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| 11:30.31 | directhex|work | douglas, when was this? |
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| 11:30.47 | directhex|work | amorphix, that was the case 5-odd years ago, but k7 and k8 have always been great |
| 11:30.48 | Mash | i'm back |
| 11:30.59 | douglas | well, I have my laptop set up that way so I just copied my sources list when I installed debian on this machine tonight. |
| 11:31.08 | amorphix | oh |
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| 11:31.15 | douglas | I wanted to try more recent versions of various software. |
| 11:31.15 | directhex|work | douglas, so you've been using sid sources? |
| 11:31.23 | directhex|work | amorphix, k6 was awful though |
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| 11:31.43 | directhex|work | douglas, okay, not a problem, just forget my last step, i.e. don't add anything to sources.list or apt.conf |
| 11:31.50 | sepski | amorphix, for gaming i think amd is better then intel. but with the juice of todays computers it's irrelevant, they can all run nethack sufficiently smooth :) |
| 11:31.55 | amorphix | I've seen a cheap Duron 1400 / 1.3Ghz system |
| 11:31.56 | douglas | directhex|work, ok. |
| 11:31.57 | sobersabre | hell. |
| 11:32.16 | DeVi`L | qualke ITALIANO per una INFO ?? |
| 11:32.31 | streuner | !it |
| 11:32.31 | dpkg | hmm... italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it, (anche /j #linux-it). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 11:32.41 | DeVi`L | ok thanks |
| 11:32.42 | DeVi`L | :) |
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| 11:32.47 | directhex|work | douglas, okay, this is a long one: apt-get update && apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) nvidia-kernel-common && module-assistant auto-install nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings |
| 11:32.53 | gomba | hi! |
| 11:33.28 | gomba | Could anyone help me a littlebit? |
| 11:33.46 | directhex|work | douglas, when that's done, add "nvidia" to the bottom of /etc/modules, modprobe nvidia, and reconfigure xfree86 to use the nvidia driver (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86) |
| 11:33.51 | sepski | !tell gomba about ask |
| 11:34.08 | fibergeek | btw how do I startup my ssh ? |
| 11:34.14 | fibergeek | sshd* |
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| 11:34.49 | douglas | directhex|work, I'll report back when that's done, thanks again. |
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| 11:35.21 | sepski | fibergeek, /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 11:35.39 | gomba | I have installed Xserver and client on my Debian, and it works, when I am root, but if I am a user, it writes an error about Xwrapper.config file. What did I wrong, How can I repair it? |
| 11:36.08 | directhex|work | douglas, module-assistant prepares your system to build kernel modules (it gets required sources & things, but it can sometimes help to get bits manually yourself first), compiles a kernel module for your running kernel as a .deb, and installs the .deb |
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| 11:36.49 | fibergeek | tnx sepki |
| 11:37.25 | douglas | directhex|work, when I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, it didn't have nvidia listed, only nv. |
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| 11:38.52 | gomba | Noone has any idea? |
| 11:39.07 | directhex|work | douglas, you did apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings? |
| 11:40.13 | douglas | directhex|work, I thought it did, but when I retried it, apparently I missed that. |
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| 11:40.19 | douglas | directhex|work, sorry |
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| 11:40.25 | gomba | what is the wrapper config file? |
| 11:41.02 | colde89 | why could i find a usb-scanner with scanimage -L as root but not as user? any idea? |
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| 11:42.19 | douglas | directhex|work, apparently, I closed the dpkg-reconfigure wrongly and the process isn't closed, how do I close it. |
| 11:42.42 | chealer | what -n switch value should I give dmesg to make it print with the normal level? |
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| 11:42.55 | amorphix | is Intel Celeron 2.4Ghz better than a P4 entry level? |
| 11:43.10 | directhex|work | amorphix, depends for doing what |
| 11:43.18 | amorphix | graphix in PS |
| 11:43.19 | chealer | douglas: just curious, do you have a whiptail process running? |
| 11:43.22 | fibergeek | k my /dev/psaux or /dev/mouse still doesn't exist and modprobe psmouse didn't fix it, does anyone know what to do? |
| 11:43.32 | deadline | #quit |
| 11:43.33 | directhex|work | amorphix, no, celeron's lack of cache will kill photoshop |
| 11:43.34 | douglas | chealer, not sure how to check, sorry. |
| 11:43.40 | directhex|work | !2.6 mouse |
| 11:43.40 | amorphix | :-( |
| 11:43.40 | dpkg | it has been said that 2.6 mouse is modprobe psmouse; modprobe mousedev; echo -e "psmouse\nmousedev" >> /etc/modules; then read http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2199 or see the #Debian FAQ (http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/OtherHardware (#1.3)) |
| 11:43.42 | Lorvija | fibergeek sledge hammer helps always ;) |
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| 11:44.02 | fibergeek | lol |
| 11:44.03 | amorphix | Celeron's have no cache memory? |
| 11:44.06 | chealer | douglas: use the command top or ps -ef unless you would use let's say KDE |
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| 11:44.16 | directhex|work | amorphix, celeron is only useful for mpeg2/mpeg4 encoding, and only if you clock the thing into next week |
| 11:44.17 | amorphix | this makes them cheaper i guess |
| 11:44.27 | douglas | chealer, I do use kde |
| 11:44.35 | douglas | just ctrl+alt+del? |
| 11:44.38 | chealer | douglas: Ctrl+Esc |
| 11:44.42 | Lorvija | You guys know any good tutorials on how to get rid of root kit(s)? Seems i got one, would be great to get rid of it without reinstall.. |
| 11:44.43 | jetscreamer | how do i move a directory with scp |
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| 11:44.44 | amorphix | directhex: i dont wanna do any serious graphix rendering or stuff, just image editing |
| 11:44.45 | jetscreamer | celly's have 128 |
| 11:44.49 | douglas | chealer, yes it's there. |
| 11:44.56 | jetscreamer | !info chkrootkit |
| 11:44.59 | dpkg | chkrootkit: (Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.44-2 (sid), Packaged size: 224 kB, Installed size: 652 kB |
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| 11:45.01 | chealer | douglas: do you see if it's using much CPU? |
| 11:45.05 | sobersabre | Lorvija: have you heaerd about backup & restore ? |
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| 11:45.20 | Lorvija | sobersabre yea, didnt do it though :/ |
| 11:45.24 | Guerin | Fetched 323MB in 3m15s (1650kB/s) |
| 11:45.27 | Guerin | wheeee! |
| 11:45.28 | douglas | chealer, as a matter of fact yes. |
| 11:45.31 | jetscreamer | how do i move a directory with scp |
| 11:45.32 | directhex|work | celerons have 128k of cache, but p4 netburst architecture relies on massive scale branch prediction, which relies on massive cache. p4 without cache is just really really slow |
| 11:45.36 | Guerin | i love bandwidth |
| 11:45.38 | chealer | douglas: could you estimate how much? |
| 11:45.39 | Lorvija | jetscreamer hmm it just doesnt remove it.. thats the prog with what i found out i got the kit.. |
| 11:45.49 | amorphix | i see |
| 11:45.51 | douglas | right now 90% |
| 11:45.54 | douglas | wow, that sucks |
| 11:45.56 | jetscreamer | Lorvija: all i know |
| 11:46.05 | chealer | douglas: thanks a lot...I was planning to report that problem |
| 11:46.06 | Lorvija | jetscreamer okay (: |
| 11:46.09 | sobersabre | Lorvija after the rootkit is installed, most probably you need to reinstall the system |
| 11:46.26 | chealer | douglas: try su -c 'killall dpkg-reconfigure' |
| 11:46.28 | Guerin | s/most probably// |
| 11:46.34 | Lorvija | sobersabre sure there is the way of removing it... would just be great found some help for it |
| 11:46.37 | douglas | sweet, thanks |
| 11:46.53 | sobersabre | Guerin, unless you want to play and see what is does... in an aquarium |
| 11:47.02 | Guerin | Lorvija: you can never trust a machine which has been rootkitted |
| 11:47.05 | jetscreamer | ah i see either you can't do recursive directories with scp or nobody knows how |
| 11:47.09 | Lorvija | Guerin yep true |
| 11:47.24 | Guerin | !aliensmite Lorvija's box |
| 11:47.38 | Guerin | jetscreamer: of course you can |
| 11:47.40 | Lorvija | was thinking of sledge hammer ;) |
| 11:47.41 | Guerin | jetscreamer: -r |
| 11:47.41 | sobersabre | Lorvija you can never trust a machine which is a rootkitten |
| 11:47.51 | Lorvija | sobersabre i know but it still can be fixed |
| 11:47.52 | jetscreamer | i tried -R okie thanks |
| 11:48.02 | Guerin | sobersabre: never trust anyone who uses the words "root" and "kitten" in close proximity |
| 11:48.08 | sobersabre | :) |
| 11:48.14 | Guerin | jetscreamer: you didn't rtfm, n00b |
| 11:48.28 | jetscreamer | actually i did the scp --help |
| 11:48.34 | jetscreamer | not much help |
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| 11:48.51 | gomba | Hi all! |
| 11:48.51 | douglas | ok, time to restart x, be right back. |
| 11:48.54 | Lorvija | okay so noone knows how to remove it? Going to be long day then |
| 11:49.04 | jetscreamer | !Guerin++ |
| 11:49.18 | sobersabre | Lorvija you're having difficulties in reading comprehension ? REINSTALL!!!! |
| 11:49.45 | jetscreamer | Lorvija: i think the point is that once it's there no telling what it may have done so best to strip it down to bare metal |
| 11:49.51 | Lorvija | sobersabre, i asked how to fix it without reinstalling, as there is that way also. But apparently you or anyone else here doesnt know it (: |
| 11:49.54 | gomba | Can anybody give me an ans.? |
| 11:49.59 | Lorvija | jetscreamer yep |
| 11:50.30 | jetscreamer | you didn't ask a question gomba wtf |
| 11:50.38 | gomba | I did |
| 11:50.46 | chealer | HURRA! I finished Neverball :D |
| 11:50.49 | sobersabre | Lorvija I guess... you don't need help.. you only have a rooted machine. sorry for bothering you. |
| 11:50.50 | Lorvija | gomba no you didnt, your last line is "hi all!" |
| 11:50.55 | gomba | I have a problem with running x as user |
| 11:51.01 | directhex|work | chealer, on all three difficulties? |
| 11:51.01 | jetscreamer | not according to lastlog... unless it's can anybody give me an ans |
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| 11:51.15 | chealer | directhex|work: yep :)) |
| 11:51.18 | sobersabre | Lorvija let's think together .. ok ? |
| 11:51.18 | Lorvija | sobersabre well thats what you get when asking from another who knows nothing about the subject (: |
| 11:51.28 | directhex|work | chealer, i'm impressed, i can't even do level 1 on the hardest level set |
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| 11:51.39 | directhex|work | chealer, then again, i also suck at super monkey ball |
| 11:51.44 | jetscreamer | gomba: a lot more details might help |
| 11:51.49 | gomba | is says cant open /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 11:52.05 | chealer | directhex|work: hehe, I wonder if it wasn't you that mentionned the game |
| 11:52.07 | bigredradio | Anyone heard of ubax? |
| 11:52.11 | sobersabre | assuming I patch md5, gcc, ps, netstat, kernel etc. you must boot from another kernel and system. |
| 11:52.27 | gomba | there isn't this file |
| 11:52.34 | bigredradio | or Cristie backup software? |
| 11:53.41 | chealer | directhex|work: yep, I think it's you. I've been playing this game since one month |
| 11:53.51 | sobersabre | Lorvija ... are you there? you will have to have some downtime. ..... |
| 11:53.52 | Lorvija | sobersabre okay, another question (: what was the programs name with what I can gather as much information as I can about the hacker and what has been done etc. |
| 11:54.05 | directhex|work | chealer, well it's better than farking tux racer >_< |
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| 11:55.05 | sobersabre | Lorvija you need to operate above network: routers, switches, and see logs. from the logs you will see where somebody attacked/connected you. and so you can tell where it came from... actually, you know nothing from this, because ... nobody attacks directly. |
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| 11:55.19 | sobersabre | unless, it is a worm. |
| 11:55.50 | sobersabre | and if this was a worm, you will know who's sent you a worm... and who's also rooted, I guess. |
| 11:55.50 | Lorvija | sobersabre well I came across a program which gathers all the available info from the system.. including what has been done etc... Was about year ago.. |
| 11:56.13 | sobersabre | Lorvija you need a reference to compare with. right ? |
| 11:56.37 | sobersabre | so if you didn't take care about some kind of digital stamping... you have nothing to compare with. |
| 11:56.59 | sobersabre | ok, you can guess which files from official packages were modified. |
| 11:57.12 | Lorvija | hmm nope, it checked the logs and checked some files if they were altered... donno excatly how (: |
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| 11:57.28 | Lorvija | as I'd like to know how he got in.. |
| 11:57.29 | sobersabre | and if everything is in kernel... and you compiled a custom kernel... |
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| 11:57.44 | Lorvija | it's the debian default kernel |
| 11:57.54 | jetscreamer | wtf i installed 2.6.11 image on a box and it created a /vmlinuz file not a symlink |
| 11:58.34 | sobersabre | Lorvija , you can easily know how he got in by answering: which unhealthy programs have I ran? which services did I leave available ? and... who could know my passwords. |
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| 11:58.50 | Lorvija | sobersabre well i got only psybnc, apache and proftpd... |
| 11:58.59 | Lorvija | only ports which were opened too |
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| 11:59.04 | sobersabre | proftp is nice, apache also nice. |
| 11:59.06 | sobersabre | ssh ? |
| 11:59.10 | sobersabre | rpc ? |
| 11:59.12 | Lorvija | not opened to world |
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| 11:59.26 | Lorvija | i got nat... so only those 3 ports opened and pointed to server |
| 11:59.30 | chealer | jetscreamer: ls -l /vmlinuz |
| 11:59.30 | chealer | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2005-04-06 06:29 /vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1-k7 |
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| 11:59.33 | sobersabre | are you sure your machine is the only one compromised ? |
| 11:59.41 | jetscreamer | and a initrd.img file |
| 11:59.49 | longshot | i want to install debian but how the installation cds layout? there are 5 cds do i need all of them ? im currently using slackware |
| 11:59.51 | jetscreamer | chealer yes it's not a symlink |
| 11:59.56 | Lorvija | sobersabre well i got some windows boxes behind same nat, and this is the only linux box i got so most likely yes |
| 11:59.59 | directhex|work | longshot, there is no version of debian on 5 cds |
| 12:00.05 | jetscreamer | chealer: well it wasn't till i rm'd it and made one |
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| 12:00.23 | directhex|work | longshot, the old obsolete don't-bother-on-a-desktop-or-modern-hardware version, 3.0, is 7 cds. the soon-to-be-released 3.1 is 14 cds |
| 12:00.32 | sobersabre | Lorvija which NAT is it? |
| 12:00.36 | directhex|work | longshot, you don't need any of them in any case, you want a 110mb net install iso |
| 12:00.38 | sobersabre | an embedded device ? |
| 12:00.41 | directhex|work | !d-i longshot |
| 12:00.41 | dpkg | longshot, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 12:00.44 | sobersabre | or a Linux box ? |
| 12:00.46 | Lorvija | It's telewell hardware firewall.. |
| 12:00.55 | Lorvija | not embedded nor linux box |
| 12:00.58 | sobersabre | maybe they're vulnerable... |
| 12:01.08 | Lorvija | well might be, but i doubt |
| 12:01.17 | jetscreamer | but htf did it boot after running lilo w/o errors |
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| 12:01.29 | chealer | jetscreamer: did you mean what I have isn't a symlink? |
| 12:01.29 | sobersabre | anyway, since you didn't do serious monitoring, we have soooo many open questions. |
| 12:01.38 | jetscreamer | chealer: no what i had wasn't |
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| 12:01.53 | Lorvija | sobersabre so true, and thats gonna change.. I'll reinstall it.. (: |
| 12:02.05 | jetscreamer | chealer: what the kernel-image-2.6.11 installed wasn't a symoink |
| 12:02.15 | sepski | Lorvija, and the box is secure in it self ? nobody have console access ? |
| 12:02.28 | Lorvija | sepski it's next to my foot =) |
| 12:02.32 | chealer | jetscreamer: no idea, I installed 2.6.11-2 for k7 this morning |
| 12:03.01 | Lorvija | sepski so no, noone else has access to it :( |
| 12:03.02 | Lorvija | (: * |
| 12:03.08 | chealer | jetscreamer: BTW I don't know what's the use of /vmlinuz but I wonder what happens when you have several kernels |
| 12:03.18 | jetscreamer | chealer: i did a k7, it worked fine. this 686 seems not so fine |
| 12:03.19 | sepski | and you have no windows boxes on that lan ? |
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| 12:03.30 | Lorvija | sepski 3 boxes |
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| 12:04.01 | jetscreamer | chealer: /vmlinuz makes it easy for lilo to update with new kernel-image |
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| 12:04.30 | jetscreamer | i guess |
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| 12:05.30 | clojster | What kernel do you use? :) |
| 12:05.37 | clojster | all of you |
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| 12:05.53 | sepski | clojster, all 790 ? |
| 12:05.55 | aardvark | !tell clojster about polls |
| 12:05.58 | jetscreamer | i use the latest kernel-image on the remote boxes, a custom here |
| 12:05.58 | aardvark | !fist clojster |
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| 12:07.44 | clojster | jeez, I just wanted to know what version (2.4.XX or 2.6.XX) do you use and if it's possible to use the newest version (which isn't in repository) |
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| 12:08.01 | chealer | clojster: which newest version? |
| 12:08.21 | sepski | clojster, ofcouse it's possible, but it's just not worth the time spent doing it. |
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| 12:08.37 | jetscreamer | clojster: yeah you can make-kpkg a linux from kernel.org |
| 12:09.05 | directhex|work | notice that kernel.org kernels are NOT designed to be stable or usable |
| 12:09.24 | jetscreamer | what? |
| 12:09.36 | directhex|work | !kernel of instability |
| 12:09.36 | dpkg | Linux 2.6. "Andrew's vision, as expressed at the summit, is that the mainline kernel will be the fastest and most feature-rich kernel around, but not, necessarily, the most stable. Final stabilization is to be done by distributors (as happens now, really)..." <http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3513>, or http://kerneltrap.org/node/4793 (new 2.6 numbering scheme - proposal) |
| 12:09.37 | jetscreamer | news2me |
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| 12:09.49 | directhex|work | and don't say the 2.6.8.1 fiasco wasn't just plain embarassing |
| 12:09.49 | clojster | sepski: what do you mean - time spent? I have my own working config already prepared (for 2.6.8) but I want to try 2.6.10 |
| 12:10.05 | petemc | directhex|work: i get my 2.4.x kernels from kernel.org and have no problems, with stability or usability |
| 12:10.16 | jethr0 | directhex|work: how bout kernel.org's 2.4 kernels? |
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| 12:10.30 | jetscreamer | clojster: try it then, won't hurt, and you can always boot back into an old kernel |
| 12:10.30 | directhex|work | good question, i don't use 2.4 |
| 12:10.32 | chealer | jethr0: the factoid is for 2.6 |
| 12:10.44 | jethr0 | chealer: yes I can read thanks |
| 12:10.51 | jetscreamer | i've used 2.6 off kernel.org w/o problems, ymmv |
| 12:10.52 | jacleo | lkjsdlf;kg |
| 12:10.59 | clojster | okay |
| 12:11.06 | jetscreamer | chealer: also 2.6.11 is in sid so... |
| 12:11.14 | chealer | jethr0: ok |
| 12:11.22 | jetscreamer | TABBUDDY! |
| 12:11.22 | clojster | and what about "debian patches"? are they necessary? |
| 12:11.35 | directhex|work | jetscreamer, which 2.6.11? 2.6.11.5? 2.6.11.2? |
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| 12:11.40 | jethr0 | hey jetscreamer :) |
| 12:11.46 | jetscreamer | i hear tell debian patches are no longer applied to upstream kernel sources but i dunno |
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| 12:12.00 | jetscreamer | it was..... one mo |
| 12:12.24 | jetscreamer | 2.6.11-5 |
| 12:12.35 | jetscreamer | 2.6.10 |
| 12:12.38 | directhex|work | yeah, i'm just shitting with you really. |
| 12:12.38 | jetscreamer | 2.6.8 iirc |
| 12:12.45 | directhex|work | Linux version 2.6.11-9-amd64-k8 (root@athlon.lowpingbastards.de) (gcc version 3.4.4 20050314 (prerelease) (Debian 3.4.3-12)) #1 Sun Apr 3 18:09:29 CEST 2005 |
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| 12:18.58 | JeffWilson12 | On debian sarge, is there no iptables init script? (e.g.; /etc/init.d/iptables) .... if there is, im not seeing it anywhere..is there a package? or do I need to write my own initscript? |
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| 12:19.56 | paines | hi |
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| 12:20.02 | sepski | JeffWilson12, the iptables doc descrivbe the various ways of doing an initscript, but i prefer to use shorewall in addition to iptables |
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| 12:20.47 | paines | is it possible to suppress the hotplug output during boot ? |
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| 12:21.19 | cahoot | turn off monitor? |
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| 12:21.48 | sml | paines: modify the startup script to send the output to /dev/null |
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| 12:22.08 | JeffWilson12 | sepski: thanks for the tip ... never heard of shorewall though - any specific reason you like it in combo with iptables? |
| 12:22.30 | paines | ohh |
| 12:22.31 | paines | found it |
| 12:22.38 | paines | /etc/default/hotplug |
| 12:22.57 | paines | thx |
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| 12:22.57 | paines | bye |
| 12:23.08 | sepski | JeffWilson12, powerfull, easy to use, good doc's and examples for all the strange networks i work with |
| 12:23.09 | Link | Hallo |
| 12:23.20 | sepski | JeffWilson12, ohh and it's in debian :) |
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| 12:23.48 | JeffWilson12 | sepski: heh....Im not really in need of an easy to use firewall .... I've already gotten used to iptables... :P :) |
| 12:25.42 | sepski | JeffWilson12, yes well i find it's much easier to mistype something in iptables and end up with a security hole, with shorewall there is some basic syntax checking and logic, i belive it makes better rules then what i'd manage on my own, given the complexity that's sometimes needed. |
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| 12:26.08 | A-z-i-z | is there a debian package for nvu ? |
| 12:26.41 | sml | !find nvu |
| 12:26.47 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'nvu' (5 of 9): (/usr/sbin/xfsinvutil) in admin/xfsdump ;; (/usr/lib/icu/2.1/invuca.dat) in libs/icu ;; (/usr/include/mozilla/uconv/uconvutil.h) in devel/mozilla-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/axiom-doc/src/algebra/invutils.as.dvi.gz) in math/axiom-doc ;; (/usr/include/mozilla-thunderbird/uconv/uconvutil.h) in mail/mozilla-thunderbird-dev. |
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| 12:29.54 | directhex|work | A-z-i-z, there are out of date ones on nvu.com |
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| 12:30.33 | Link | How to install kde ? |
| 12:31.22 | asg | Link: /msg dpkg install kde |
| 12:31.59 | Link | thanks |
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| 12:34.08 | Petaris | Can someone tell me where I can set a second IP address in debian (on eth0:1) |
| 12:34.23 | greycat | same place you set the first one |
| 12:34.26 | asg | !faq Petaris |
| 12:34.27 | dpkg | Petaris: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 12:34.30 | greycat | iface eth0:1 inet static ... |
| 12:34.55 | Link | How to install kde ? |
| 12:34.57 | Petaris | I tried that but it wouldn't start it |
| 12:35.16 | greycat | Petaris: auto eth0:1, and ifup eth0:1 |
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| 12:35.31 | greycat | it's *entirely* like a second interface. |
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| 12:36.05 | wishie | i did an apt-get install blootbot, and have set it up, but it seems to cause errors when using the 'find' and 'search' options..i get errors in the logs saying that it cant create index files...any ideas on how to fix this ? |
| 12:36.07 | Petaris | greycat: where do I put those two commands? In the interface file? |
| 12:36.18 | greycat | !faq |
| 12:36.18 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 12:37.54 | Link | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.04 | asg | Link: type that in your irc client |
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| 12:41.16 | chealer | I have worrying boot msgs when trying a 2.6.11 image *just* before kjournald starts. how could I take time to analyze them? |
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| 12:42.16 | greycat | !find 2.6.11 sid |
| 12:42.18 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of '2.6.11' (11 of 16): kernel-doc-2.6.11 ;; kernel-headers-2.6.11-1 ;; kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-386 ;; kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-686 ;; kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-686-smp ;; kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-i386 ;; kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-k7 ;; kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-k7-smp ;; kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 ;; kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 ;; kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686-smp. |
| 12:42.32 | chealer | yes yes, it's out :) |
| 12:42.41 | greycat | chealer: well, I can't help you with your personal time management |
| 12:42.46 | wishie | well, it'd be nice if my bot could do that |
| 12:42.52 | chealer | hehe greycat |
| 12:42.58 | wishie | instead, it spits errors, and falls back to a Contents search |
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| 12:43.40 | wishie | can anyone here help me with blootbot please |
| 12:43.41 | Link | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:43.43 | yalu | does anyone know a way to copy a directory structure, without the files in it? |
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| 12:44.01 | greycat | yalu: find . -type d -print | cpio -paduv /target |
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| 12:44.18 | yalu | greycat: mkey I'll try that |
| 12:44.21 | greycat | (use -print0 and -0 if there are spaces-issues) |
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| 12:44.33 | streuner | hm |
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| 12:45.00 | Rawplayer | Q: what does this exactly mean "sshd[15447]: Did not receive identification string from 200.248.130.130" ? |
| 12:45.46 | greycat | Rawplayer: what does "telnet 200.248.130.130 22" say? |
| 12:45.50 | aardvark | Rawplayer: evil hax0rs |
| 12:46.03 | greycat | oh.... /me reads the message again. |
| 12:46.09 | greycat | it's from ssh*d*, not ssh. silly greycat. |
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| 12:46.25 | Rawplayer | hehe |
| 12:46.29 | Rawplayer | its from .br monk |
| 12:46.36 | Rawplayer | dig -x on the ip looks silly to |
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| 12:48.52 | Guerin | ok, i just got an electric shock off the base unit of my 5.1 amp/speaker system |
| 12:48.58 | Guerin | that should never happen |
| 12:49.02 | clusty | are there any multi source clients for debian? |
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| 12:49.07 | nagual | certainly shouldnt. im shocked. |
| 12:49.12 | clusty | that is download clients |
| 12:49.19 | nagual | clusty: wanna explain that in english? |
| 12:49.28 | asg | Guerin: i get shocked when I touch most things, including the cat. |
| 12:49.30 | Guerin | clusty: don't ever use one of those |
| 12:49.39 | clusty | Guerin: why not? |
| 12:49.52 | Guerin | asg: i'm not talking about static - real electricity |
| 12:49.53 | greycat | asg: electric pussy? |
| 12:50.00 | Guerin | clusty: because they're fucking evil |
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| 12:50.10 | airco | what chan are linux newbies supposed to go to for a question? here? |
| 12:50.11 | greycat | !stop prozilla |
| 12:50.11 | dpkg | it has been said that stop prozilla is http://dominia.org/djao/limitipconn.html -- an apache module to limit concurrent connections from a single IP address, or apt-get install libapache-mod-limitipconn |
| 12:50.22 | clusty | Guerin: you mind being a bit more specific? |
| 12:50.26 | greycat | airco: depends on the question. just ask. |
| 12:50.27 | asg | greycat: hehe |
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| 12:50.30 | jharriso1 | is it the default in ssh client to not keep the connection alive? |
| 12:50.35 | greycat | jharriso1: yes |
| 12:50.37 | asg | Guerin: ah, then yes, that is bad. |
| 12:50.40 | streuner | Rawplayer: what does usenet say? |
| 12:50.46 | airco | k, i'm trying to mount my windows hd under linux |
| 12:50.49 | jharriso1 | hhmmm |
| 12:50.52 | Rawplayer | streuner: what?:) |
| 12:50.59 | airco | but i'm getting a "device already mounted or directory busy" error |
| 12:51.03 | greycat | clusty: I have a rant about them at http://209.142.155.49/greycat.yi.org/ if you wish to read it. |
| 12:51.07 | airco | for example: |
| 12:51.11 | airco | airco@Airco:/ $ sudo mkdir /windows; sudo mount -l /dev/hda1 /windows |
| 12:51.11 | airco | mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /windows busy |
| 12:51.11 | streuner | Rawplayer: don't you know what 'usenet' is? |
| 12:51.32 | Guerin | the amp also emits a high-pitched whine through the speakers |
| 12:51.37 | Rawplayer | well i use usenet for thing what it isnt designed for |
| 12:51.43 | Guerin | one which fluctuates in volume from inaudible to loud |
| 12:51.53 | wishie | apt/dpkg are blootbots, correct ? |
| 12:52.01 | asg | wishie: yes |
| 12:52.01 | wishie | if so, what version are they running at the moment ? |
| 12:52.04 | airco | does anyone have any bright ideas what the cause and solution to that little problem may be? :) |
| 12:52.10 | Guerin | wishie: special haxx0red version |
| 12:52.15 | wishie | because i cant get the sid blootbot packages to work |
| 12:52.32 | streuner | Rawplayer: well, use groups.google.com and google for 'Didn't blahblah sshd debian' |
| 12:52.33 | Guerin | wishie: use the 1.2.0 tarball or the cvs package from the site |
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| 12:52.39 | chealer | airco: is /dev/hda1 already mounted? |
| 12:52.46 | airco | chealer: no |
| 12:53.09 | yalu | lijkt me logisch |
| 12:53.10 | yalu | oops |
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| 12:53.27 | wishie | blootbot.sf.net ? |
| 12:53.28 | jharrisonwk | greycat: did this always use to be the default? |
| 12:53.40 | asg | wishie: also, see /topic #debian-bots |
| 12:53.41 | Guerin | wishie: i guess so |
| 12:54.14 | greycat | jharrisonwk: in the earlier versions, there *was no way* to do a client-side keepalive *at all*. So yes. |
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| 12:54.28 | streuner | Rawplayer: http://groups.google.de/groups?q=Did+not+receive+identification+string+from++sshd+debian&hl=de&btnG=Google-Suche |
| 12:54.46 | Rawplayer | omg you googled for me :| |
| 12:55.00 | clusty | greycat: I was looking for something that would search itself for altenative locations and use multisource from different places (like getright for Windows). know any of those. I guess they are not harming anybody |
| 12:55.06 | streuner | well, i was interested in... |
| 12:55.27 | jharrisonwk | greycat: can the keepalive be set from the server side? |
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| 12:55.51 | jharrisonwk | greycat: it seems it can |
| 12:56.03 | jharrisonwk | greycat: KeepAlive yes is in sshd_config |
| 12:56.18 | jharrisonwk | why do my connections keep getting dropped then I wonder |
| 12:57.00 | greycat | bah, openssh.org doesn't have any readily-visible list of changes per version |
| 12:57.13 | asg | greycat: thought it did |
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| 12:57.47 | CharlesBrown | xchat 2.4.2 and 2.4.3 are out |
| 12:57.57 | CharlesBrown | But 2.4.1 are in sarge repositories |
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| 12:58.03 | asg | greycat: you aren't talking about the changelogs? |
| 12:58.12 | greycat | asg: where? |
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| 12:58.18 | asg | greycat: http://openbsd.org/plus.html |
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| 12:58.39 | greycat | asg: openssh not openbsd |
| 12:58.54 | asg | greycat: I'm a moron today |
| 12:58.54 | streuner | CharlesBrown: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 12:59.04 | jharrisonwk | greycat: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/openssh/portable/ChangeLog |
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| 13:00.04 | karsten | asg: Yes, but we're always happy to see you. |
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| 13:00.37 | skrald | Does anyone know a mailmonitor for the gnome-panel now that the mail-monitor applet is disabled from 2.10? (mailnotify is not for the panel) |
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| 13:00.52 | karsten | skrald: man biff. |
| 13:01.07 | karsten | skrald: gkrell is another option. Or WindowMaker. |
| 13:01.23 | jharrisonwk | the default for the ssh server seems to be keepalive is set to yes |
| 13:01.29 | greycat | jharrisonwk: that's just like the one in the source code. I was hoping for a human-readable one... :/ |
| 13:01.32 | jharrisonwk | yet on some hosts my connection gets terminated |
| 13:01.48 | jharrisonwk | like after a while of inactivity |
| 13:02.10 | skrald | biff is for terminal use |
| 13:02.22 | shad_ | why would my mount suddenly become read-only? |
| 13:02.46 | karsten | shad_: Which partition? |
| 13:02.55 | CharlesBrown | streuner, Why would xchat 2.4.2 and 2.4.3 be in the sid repositories...and not the debian repos? |
| 13:03.05 | shad_ | karsten well, on this box its / which is most everything |
| 13:03.14 | pabs3 | jharrisonwk: I use this to combat a nasty dsl modem: ServerAliveInterval 400 |
| 13:03.14 | karsten | shad_: Generally, root FS is mounted with 'errors=remount-ro' |
| 13:03.17 | greycat | ok... looks like ServerAlive was added 20031217 |
| 13:03.21 | Guerin | CharlesBrown: question makes no sense |
| 13:03.27 | airco | does anyone know a way to find out which process is keeping a device (or, actually, a partition) busy? |
| 13:03.31 | karsten | shad_: Check /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog. Probably errors. |
| 13:03.38 | _joey | which one is more popular gnome or kde? |
| 13:03.41 | aardvark | airco: lsof |
| 13:03.43 | jharrisonwk | pabs3: yes you have that in your ssh_config |
| 13:03.43 | CharlesBrown | streuner, Why would xchat 2.4.2 and 2.4.3 be in the sid repositories...and not the sarge repos? |
| 13:03.43 | skrald | gkrell is not for the panel either |
| 13:03.45 | CharlesBrown | lol |
| 13:03.47 | karsten | airco: fuser, lsof |
| 13:03.49 | jharrisonwk | pabs3: right? |
| 13:03.52 | greycat | gods only know how to see what *version* that corresponds to... |
| 13:03.53 | karsten | _joey: Yes. |
| 13:03.56 | skrald | I search for a panel-monitor |
| 13:03.56 | asuffield | airco: lsof or fuser. but a partition is probably busy because it's mounted, which is no process at all |
| 13:03.57 | drac | CharlesBrown: xchat IS in Sarge. |
| 13:03.58 | pabs3 | jharrisonwk: yep |
| 13:04.03 | jharrisonwk | greycat: :) |
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| 13:04.24 | CharlesBrown | drac, Not 2.4.2 and 2.4.3 |
| 13:04.27 | karsten | skrald: Yes, that was pretty much my point. Suggest 'apt-cache search' with an appropriate query for gnome + panel + mail. |
| 13:04.28 | CharlesBrown | Only 2.4.1 |
| 13:04.34 | _joey | karsten kde is zzee best? |
| 13:04.38 | jharrisonwk | I just think if the server is configured to keep alive why would I have to configure my client to keep alive |
| 13:04.39 | shad_ | karsten im guessing an hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } error would be the problem |
| 13:04.40 | pabs3 | CharlesBrown: ask this http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl |
| 13:04.46 | jharrisonwk | makes no sense to me |
| 13:04.51 | shad_ | anything i can do about that? |
| 13:04.51 | airco | k, lsof is giving me a huge readout, i suppose i should try something like lsof | grep '/dev/hda1' ? |
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| 13:04.54 | karsten | _joey: Personally, I use WindowMaker. Use what you like, it really doesn't matter. |
| 13:04.58 | CyberShadow | I want to buy a new video card. What shouldn't I buy if I want it to be Linux-compatible? |
| 13:05.03 | _joey | karsten it does |
| 13:05.06 | asuffield | jharrisonwk: uhh, keepalive means "when the other end stops responding, kill the connection". that's what it's *for* |
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| 13:05.22 | airco | asuffield: it's not mounted, that's the problem |
| 13:05.27 | asg | karsten: :) |
| 13:05.30 | karsten | _joey: Among better/popular desktops: GNOME, KDE, XFCE4, (black|flux)box. |
| 13:05.34 | InitMass | any recommendations for a newsreader app? |
| 13:05.41 | karsten | asg: You always put a smile on my face. |
| 13:05.42 | _joey | window maker is zze suck, karsten look at my desktop www4.tpg.com.au/alexgne/cards4.png |
| 13:05.55 | karsten | asg: ...and make me hold my head up high. |
| 13:05.56 | asuffield | InitMass: seriously? dig a hole and die in it. all news clients are amazingly agonisingly bad |
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| 13:06.05 | opqdonut | where do i set the default locale? |
| 13:06.10 | karsten | _joey: I really don't give f* about your desktop. |
| 13:06.11 | asuffield | nobody has ever been able to explain this phenomenon, they just are |
| 13:06.14 | hexxeh|work | opqdonut, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 13:06.25 | _joey | karsten sure you8 do you pesky wanker |
| 13:06.30 | jharrisonwk | asuffield: so you mean to tell me that keepalive means if there is no activity after some time the session is killed? |
| 13:06.38 | hexxeh|work | CyberShadow, do you want a 3d gaming card or what? |
| 13:06.39 | jharrisonwk | asuffield: isnt that a bit misleading |
| 13:06.43 | karsten | shad_: Back up what you need now. If you've got smartmontools installed, check your recent logs. |
| 13:06.43 | asg | karsten: heh, thanks |
| 13:06.51 | karsten | !tell _joey about window managers for x |
| 13:06.51 | jharrisonwk | asuffield: why would it be called keepALIVE |
| 13:06.55 | asuffield | jharrisonwk: no. it's "stupidity". keepalive means "prod the other end from time to time, and if it doesn't respond, kill it" |
| 13:06.58 | karsten | _joey: Mind telling us why it matters? |
| 13:07.06 | CyberShadow | hexxeh|work: are there any other around? :) |
| 13:07.24 | Guerin | CyberShadow: nvidia |
| 13:07.31 | InitMass | asuffield, wtf |
| 13:07.32 | asuffield | no sensible system *ever* kills the other end for inactivity |
| 13:07.32 | airco | aardvark, assufield, karsten: if i try the command lsof | grep '/dev/hda1' i get no results, is that because there is no process using that partition or am i doing it wrong? |
| 13:07.34 | pabs3 | CharlesBrown: only 2.4.1 is in sid, what distro are you really using? |
| 13:07.36 | CyberShadow | all are gaming-oriented, and other 3d apps work good on them... Games IS the major 3d-graphic-based industry. |
| 13:07.37 | Guerin | CyberShadow: or don't bother |
| 13:07.51 | CharlesBrown | CyberShadow, at all costs...do NOT BUY ATi |
| 13:07.52 | CyberShadow | Guerin: BUY or DON'T BUY nVidia? |
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| 13:07.59 | CharlesBrown | absolutely stay away from ati |
| 13:08.00 | CharlesBrown | buy nvidia |
| 13:08.01 | ska-fan | I'm getting file does not exist http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/./postgresql-common_5_all.deb with the line deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti psql/ in sources.list. What am I doing wrong? |
| 13:08.04 | Guerin | CyberShadow: don't bother buying anything else |
| 13:08.06 | ska-fan | the file is at http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/psql/postgresql-common_5_all.deb |
| 13:08.06 | hexxeh|work | CyberShadow, well you could go for a low-end ati which has an open-source 3d driver (albeit very slow compared to modern kit) |
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| 13:08.13 | CharlesBrown | pabs3, sarge |
| 13:08.21 | hexxeh|work | CyberShadow, or you could buy anything if you only wanted 2d |
| 13:08.24 | CyberShadow | thanks all :) |
| 13:08.25 | _joey | karsten who us? why don't you speak for yourself ? |
| 13:08.28 | asuffield | at all costs, do not buy nvidia |
| 13:08.30 | chealer | ska-fan: asking about it on #debian, most likely |
| 13:08.37 | cafuego | CharlesBrown: Both ATI and nVidia suck for requiring closed drivers. That said, nvidias drivers are BY FAR better then ATI's ones, on Linux. |
| 13:08.38 | Guerin | asuffield: that's a fair call too |
| 13:08.42 | karsten | airco: -m for mountpoint. |
| 13:08.44 | ska-fan | chealer: how so? |
| 13:08.44 | CyberShadow | no, I have 2d vith my present integrated video, I meant 3D of course :) |
| 13:08.47 | simonrvn | ska-fan: like we give a flying fig what ubuntu does in here |
| 13:08.49 | hexxeh|work | CyberShadow, if you want 3d acceleration, then you really want nvidia |
| 13:09.03 | ska-fan | simonrvn: this is not an ubuntu thing, it's an apt thing. |
| 13:09.04 | CyberShadow | ok, thanks all once again :) |
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| 13:09.11 | asuffield | cafuego: which isn't saying much, nvidia's drivers are unusable crashy shit |
| 13:09.14 | pabs3 | CharlesBrown: there is no 2.4.2 or 2.4.3 in unstable, only upstream |
| 13:09.17 | simonrvn | i won't repeat myself |
| 13:09.17 | Guerin | ska-fan: so go ask #redhat - they have apt as well |
| 13:09.20 | hexxeh|work | cafuego, i had a bad thought. there are absolutely no open-source 3d accelerators on pci express. |
| 13:09.20 | CharlesBrown | CyberShadow, Get the Nvidia 6800 GT |
| 13:09.27 | karsten | airco: fuser -vm <mountpoint> |
| 13:09.27 | ska-fan | don't let the fact that the string ubuntu is in the url confuse you |
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| 13:09.31 | airco | karsten: airco@Airco:/mnt $ lsof -m | grep '/dev/hda1' |
| 13:09.35 | airco | karsten: lsof: -m not supported |
| 13:09.38 | cafuego | asuffield: That's not been my experience, but then I don't run games on it. |
| 13:09.44 | karsten | airco: That too. |
| 13:09.49 | streuner_ | !ubuntusmite ska-fan |
| 13:09.51 | karsten | airco: fuser, not lsof. |
| 13:09.54 | jbAU | anyone know much about vpn's? i'm trying to get pptpd working with firehol |
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| 13:10.21 | asuffield | cafuego: I have seen boxes lock up so hard that the fricking *power button* doesn't work any more. you have to climb under the desk and rip the damn cable out. several times a day. |
| 13:10.21 | cafuego | jbAU: open the port pptpd listens on |
| 13:10.27 | karsten | jbAU: Viral propogation networks? Sure. |
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| 13:10.31 | karsten | jbAU: ;-) |
| 13:10.33 | airco | karsten: 'fuser -vm /dev/hda1'... that gives me 0 results |
| 13:10.38 | jbAU | karsten: thanks |
| 13:10.40 | cafuego | asuffield: <heh> Like k3b here ;-) |
| 13:10.59 | karsten | airco: <directory>, not <partition> |
| 13:10.59 | cafuego | asuffield: The nvidia card has never (ever) caused me grief (amd64, too) |
| 13:11.03 | jbAU | cafuego: mm, i've opened up the pptp port but having some difficulty |
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| 13:11.05 | _joey | cool kids are using NeroLinux these days |
| 13:11.06 | karsten | airco: ...and possibly it's not in use. |
| 13:11.18 | king_shadukan | ok ppl i manage to make my wireless to work right |
| 13:11.21 | cafuego | _joey: nerolinux is slow and ugly. (like k3b) |
| 13:11.21 | asuffield | hexxeh|work: it'll probably change, the ATI cards are slowly getting reverse-engineered. nvidia is a dead loss though |
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| 13:11.23 | karsten | airco: Submounts will also hold open a partition. What are you trying to do? And have you been chrooting stuff? |
| 13:11.29 | _joey | nope |
| 13:11.32 | _joey | it owns |
| 13:11.37 | _joey | ze best |
| 13:11.51 | _joey | I mean it sucks all right |
| 13:11.53 | chealer | asuffield: you have seen several boxes do that? |
| 13:11.56 | karsten | !tell _joey about enter |
| 13:11.57 | sepski | asuffield, hmm iv had the impression that ati have worse drivers then nvidia, i have 3 recent nvidia's and 2 recent ati's and the nvidias are easier to get going and seam faster, non crash on me either tho |
| 13:11.58 | _joey | but everything else sucks too |
| 13:12.02 | asuffield | chealer: whole room full of them |
| 13:12.07 | hexxeh|work | asuffield, except r300 is also only available on agp, and can barely do glxgears. by the time there are r400 open drivers, there will be no pci express anymore |
| 13:12.12 | cafuego | asuffield: Were they Dells? |
| 13:12.15 | _joey | !tell karsten he's an asshole |
| 13:12.19 | airco | karsten: since i haven't a clue what chrooting is (unless it's the same as sudoing), i'm guessing i haven't |
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| 13:12.24 | asuffield | sepski: <shrug> I've never had reason to use the ATI propritary drivers |
| 13:12.26 | karsten | !ops _joey abusive |
| 13:12.26 | asuffield | cafuego: nope |
| 13:12.27 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: _joey abusive |
| 13:12.37 | chealer | asuffield: all due to nvidia? |
| 13:12.43 | asuffield | chealer: yup |
| 13:12.45 | Guerin | karsten: like that's unusual in here |
| 13:12.46 | airco | karsten: and there seem to be a lot of processes using /mnt/windows... should i kill em all? |
| 13:12.47 | hexxeh|work | asuffield, the only crashy driver i've ever used under linux are all GPL'd ones, nvidia-glx is damned good |
| 13:12.48 | _joey | !ops karsten is pesky and provoke decent chatters |
| 13:12.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: karsten is pesky and provoke decent chatters |
| 13:12.52 | jharrisonwk | stay away from ati? |
| 13:13.03 | karsten | airco: chroot == changing the effective root directory for a process (and its children). Mostly an issue if you mount under chroot, as you need to _umount_ under chroot as well. |
| 13:13.09 | helix | oh shut up both of you |
| 13:13.19 | chealer | asuffield: just curious, what cards were they using, and when did you last see that? |
| 13:13.27 | cafuego | jharrisonwk: The ATI fglrx drivers are shit. Cards that work with *open* drivers are fine. |
| 13:13.38 | hexxeh|work | if slow |
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| 13:13.45 | cafuego | jharrisonwk: Note that fglrx doesn't do 64bit |
| 13:13.46 | asuffield | chealer: I can't remember, it was last year. thankfully I haven't had to work with 3d stuff since then |
| 13:13.51 | jharrisonwk | cafuego: sure it does |
| 13:13.52 | karsten | Guerin: ;-) |
| 13:13.57 | airco | karsten: thanx for the info... but i don't think i've been doing that since i wouldn't have a clue how to do it :-) |
| 13:14.05 | karsten | airco: Depends. You're the best judge of that. |
| 13:14.06 | cafuego | jharrisonwk: Last i heard it wouldn't compile on amd64 |
| 13:14.08 | hexxeh|work | cafuego, yeah, it does now, though it makes firm dependancies on a suse styule biarch |
| 13:14.14 | _joey | A friend of mine using nvidia's driver he's telling me the driver is larger than his entire kernel image heh |
| 13:14.18 | airco | karsten: and what i'm trying to do: get my windows dir mounted under linux, but i keep on getting busy errors |
| 13:14.18 | cafuego | hexxeh|work: Ah ok. |
| 13:14.19 | jharrisonwk | cafuego: um maybe you are right about 64bit |
| 13:14.24 | karsten | helix: Morning, sunshine. |
| 13:14.26 | chealer | asuffield: ok. I can agree that it sucks to use nvidia's drivers anyway |
| 13:14.28 | airco | karsten: for example: sudo mkdir /karsten; sudo mount -l /dev/hda1 /karsten |
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| 13:14.33 | jharrisonwk | cafuego: so nvidia's "open" drivers are better then? |
| 13:14.40 | karsten | airco: Yeah, it's just one of the curves (chroot) I thought I'd hit. |
| 13:14.41 | airco | karsten: gives: .mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /karsten busy |
| 13:14.41 | _joey | whereas open source ATI 's drivers that support 3D own |
| 13:14.42 | helix | ugh, yeah, it is morning. I need to go to sleep soon. |
| 13:14.44 | cafuego | jharrisonwk: They're not open <heh> |
| 13:15.00 | asuffield | sleep is for the weak |
| 13:15.08 | _joey | karsten yeah go away |
| 13:15.12 | jharrisonwk | cafuego: so why argue that ati has no "open" drivers when nvidia also does not either |
| 13:15.14 | cafuego | jharrisonwk: I've not had problems with the nvidia-glx drivers on amd64. |
| 13:15.23 | helix | well, I have to rotate myself to a sensible wake/sleep cycle by monday |
| 13:15.25 | helix | yay new jobs |
| 13:15.28 | jharrisonwk | cafuego: ati does have 64bit drivers |
| 13:15.31 | Guerin | heh |
| 13:15.39 | jharrisonwk | I have had no problems with ati drivers either |
| 13:15.41 | Guerin | i'm on a 9-5 for the first time in years as well |
| 13:15.41 | cafuego | jharrisonwk: I wasn't aware I was arguing that. |
| 13:15.41 | hexxeh|work | ati don't have any open driver. all r200 3d relies on some limited documentation access given to 10 people on the xfree86 project under nda years ago, and has simply been continued since then. any nvidia cards, or r300+ ati cards, rely on reverese-engineering for anything outside unaccelerated 2d |
| 13:15.41 | airco | karsten: while there is absolutely no way that /karsten could already be inuse since i just created it before trying to mount to it, and the device isn't mounted anywhere else either. arrr, it's driving me nuts |
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| 13:15.44 | Guerin | it's freakish |
| 13:15.55 | streuner_ | helix: i heard they have in US several jobs? |
| 13:15.59 | helix | Guerin: oh, thank god, I don't have to be that kind of sensible |
| 13:16.05 | helix | just like a "before noon or so" sensible |
| 13:16.10 | serj | i currently use the i386 branch of sarge but waht to aswitch to ia64 |
| 13:16.12 | karsten | helix: Heh. I've managed to get on a "wake up at 4am" cycle. |
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| 13:16.16 | serj | now can i do it |
| 13:16.17 | asuffield | who the hell pays you to show up "before noon or so"? |
| 13:16.21 | cafuego | helix: Starting your own business, eh? |
| 13:16.22 | jharrisonwk | cafuego: well technically no but you did say ati's drivers are not "open" which made me think hhmm neither are nvidia's so why would someone even bring that up |
| 13:16.23 | helix | karsten: I do believe that will happen soon |
| 13:16.28 | helix | cafuego: no :) |
| 13:16.34 | karsten | airco: /join #flood. Paste 'mount' |
| 13:16.37 | jharrisonwk | https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27 |
| 13:16.50 | helix | cafuego: but it's a small company and they are lenient about stuff |
| 13:16.52 | cafuego | jharrisonwk: No, I said the fglrx drivers weren't open. |
| 13:16.55 | streuner_ | helix: how many jobs do you have? |
| 13:16.58 | helix | streuner_: just one |
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| 13:17.04 | serj | this machine is a 2xXeon 2.8 runing i386 code (real waste) |
| 13:17.18 | streuner_ | lucky |
| 13:17.18 | helix | and it lets me use debian and wear jeans, yaaay |
| 13:17.19 | jharrisonwk | cafuego: ok |
| 13:17.25 | cafuego | serj: A xeon is awaste no matter what it runs, i wouldn't worry about it. |
| 13:17.34 | hexxeh|work | serj, erm... xeon has absolutely zero ia64 capability |
| 13:17.46 | asuffield | the decent ones are when they let you *not* wear jeans |
| 13:17.52 | serj | wow |
| 13:17.54 | helix | heh |
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| 13:18.08 | serj | and i just recompiled my kernel for ia64 arch and it booted |
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| 13:18.19 | helix | but jeans will do in place of 'business casual' any daaaaay |
| 13:18.22 | asg | helix: telecommute |
| 13:18.25 | gds | hi |
| 13:18.26 | hexxeh|work | serj, do you know what ia64 is? |
| 13:18.28 | helix | asg: find me a telecommuting job |
| 13:18.35 | serj | i bet i do |
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| 13:18.37 | cafuego | helix: I work in a dressing gown (except when I have a meeting). |
| 13:18.39 | karsten | airco: Give me a sec to renew my connection here.... |
| 13:18.43 | karsten | helix: How about using jeans and wearing Debian? |
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| 13:18.51 | gds | Can I pass to Ubuntu from Sid? |
| 13:18.51 | helix | I do have some debian shirts |
| 13:18.53 | asg | helix: yeah, that's the rub. On days that I do telecommute though, it's pjs all the way. |
| 13:18.58 | serj | even better than you (but hey maybe i just think xeon is ia64 ) |
| 13:19.00 | cafuego | gds: /j #ubuntu |
| 13:19.22 | helix | I'm not sure I can use jeans for this job though |
| 13:19.25 | cafuego | serj: Most xeons are ia32 |
| 13:19.27 | streuner_ | cafuego: heh? |
| 13:19.38 | jharrisonwk | jeans suck |
| 13:19.39 | cafuego | streuner_: BRIGHT ORANGE dressing gown |
| 13:19.52 | helix | asg: I am told by some telecommuters that they actually wake up and get dressed then work |
| 13:19.56 | juxhi | how do i install x on a debian system i screwed up in my installatio and now i don't know what to do |
| 13:20.00 | hexxeh|work | serj, i'm a paid systems manager in charge of supercomputing facilities for oxford university, and a freelancer on the uk's biggest independant pc hardware website. i can assure you that xeon has absolutely nothing to do with ia64 |
| 13:20.05 | helix | that is so bizarre; what could be more comfortable than either nakedness or pajamas? |
| 13:20.09 | hexxeh|work | serj, ever even seen an itanium? |
| 13:20.18 | streuner_ | juxhi: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 13:20.19 | cafuego | serj: if you have a pair of 64bit ones, I doubt your can cross-upgrade. You may need to do a fresh install. |
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| 13:20.32 | cafuego | helix: Well, I got this thong... |
| 13:20.44 | hexxeh|work | 2.8 xeons are nocona core, amd64 (em64t). |
| 13:20.44 | helix | ah right, those are comfy too |
| 13:20.47 | Guerin | helix: some people need to trick themselves into thinking they're being productive |
| 13:20.49 | helix | but they could be pajamas! |
| 13:20.50 | jharrisonwk | helix: swimming naked? |
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| 13:20.54 | asg | helix: well, in my experience, some people aren't productive at home if they aren't in work clothes. I don't get that though. |
| 13:21.07 | helix | I can't be productive in work clothes |
| 13:21.14 | gds | hi cafuego, in #ubuntu anyone can help me... :-( |
| 13:21.14 | gds | If I add some lines in sources.list...? |
| 13:21.15 | cafuego | serj: Ahm, amd64 (that's NOT ia64) |
| 13:21.16 | jharrisonwk | of course a shark could make that very uncomfortable quickly |
| 13:21.17 | asg | helix: me neither |
| 13:21.23 | yoni | hello, i need to install woody. I have an old netinstall (2003) is it ok (it will take new stuff from the net) OR it is best to download a fresh one ? |
| 13:21.24 | jharrisonwk | or a baracuda |
| 13:21.33 | cafuego | serj: You'll need to reinstall if you want to upgrade to amd64 arch. |
| 13:21.36 | jharrisonwk | or some other big fish with lots of razor teeth |
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| 13:21.38 | hexxeh|work | yoni, makes no difference |
| 13:21.39 | Guerin | yoni: woody is way older than 2003, you'll be fine |
| 13:21.57 | asuffield | helix: you could show up to work naked and see if anybody complains |
| 13:22.01 | hexxeh|work | cafuego, or use sarge, a 2.6 amd64 kernel, and amd64-libs package, for 32bit userspace but 64 bit binary compatability |
| 13:22.17 | asg | asuffield: that would also drive down productivity |
| 13:22.17 | yoni | ok cool, seconde question, i have a 30gb one partition, someone told me it is not good... how should it be partitionned ? |
| 13:22.26 | cafuego | hexxeh|work: Eww, inelegant ;-) |
| 13:22.27 | streuner | asg: haha |
| 13:22.34 | Guerin | yoni: depends |
| 13:22.35 | serj | ok maybe i just mistake the names or i am in a confusion with intel's stupid names but hey i realy do know what ia64 is as i work on a new type of architecture cometing hyperthreading and 64 bit cpu |
| 13:22.45 | asuffield | asg: helix ain't that interesting to look at |
| 13:22.56 | gds | Why cant'I set speed in k3b with my dvd-rw? I must set ignore (notebook asus) |
| 13:23.00 | Guerin | asuffield: it's the commute I'd be more concerned about |
| 13:23.00 | yoni | Guerin (hello :)), i want to set a webserver |
| 13:23.06 | cafuego | serj: If you confuse amd64 and ia64 you maybe don't know what it is. they are NOT compatible. |
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| 13:23.08 | jharrisonwk | as far as I know intel has emd64 or something |
| 13:23.08 | helix | sure I am. in a "oh my god, wtf?!" kinda way |
| 13:23.12 | serj | actualy it's gonna be even 128 bit (it already is) but any way you are right i am realy wrong about xeon |
| 13:23.13 | hexxeh|work | serj, ia64 is intel's itanium architecture. it is completely and utterly unrelated to xeon. |
| 13:23.17 | karsten | !tell yoni about partitioning howto |
| 13:23.18 | asg | asuffield: bah. |
| 13:23.19 | jharrisonwk | ia64 is not xeon is it? |
| 13:23.25 | hexxeh|work | jharrisonwk, NO |
| 13:23.31 | cafuego | ia64 is deprecated |
| 13:23.33 | jharrisonwk | isnt that some other architecture |
| 13:23.36 | karsten | yoni: Partitioning schemes vary widely. dpkg just pointed you at my guidelines. |
| 13:23.38 | jharrisonwk | yeah that sounds right |
| 13:23.43 | hexxeh|work | modern xeons are amd64. |
| 13:23.44 | asuffield | helix: bah, you don't even have any strangely misshapen limbs |
| 13:23.46 | jharrisonwk | hexxeh|work: OK |
| 13:23.52 | cafuego | Only Dell and morons buy ia64 |
| 13:23.53 | helix | but I'm pale! |
| 13:23.56 | jharrisonwk | why the hell are peolpe shouting at me |
| 13:24.00 | hexxeh|work | or em64t if you don't want to hurt feelings |
| 13:24.06 | cafuego | jharrisonwk: WHY! |
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| 13:24.09 | jethr0 | I jsut installed cvs on sarge, and whenever one of my luser commits, the commited file is uid:gid owned by the user, and not uid:cvsusers as expected, and as it used to work on the former openbsd box, any tips but the setgid bit one? |
| 13:24.10 | streuner | helix: would you ever do like 'The Simple Life'? |
| 13:24.11 | jharrisonwk | adlfjaskl;djfasjdflq |
| 13:24.12 | jharrisonwk | df! |
| 13:24.19 | asuffield | helix: you are not pale |
| 13:24.19 | streuner | helix: if somebody would ask you |
| 13:24.23 | Guerin | yoni: 5G / 5G /usr 5G /var 15G /home |
| 13:24.24 | helix | streuner: oh, no way |
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| 13:24.27 | yoni | ? Karsten, sry i don't get it... is there somewhere i should look to figure it out ? |
| 13:24.27 | cafuego | hexxeh|work: Nah, an Intel AMD64 cpu is poetic justice ;-) |
| 13:24.30 | jharrisonwk | streuner: the simple life is not all its cracked up to me |
| 13:24.33 | Guerin | yoni: and serve everything out of /home |
| 13:24.34 | jharrisonwk | s/me/be |
| 13:24.35 | hexxeh|work | cafuego, it's mostly sgi (altix) and other big iron people who sell itanium. personally, experience says itaniuc is junk |
| 13:24.36 | helix | asuffield: hmm, in florida, I am -- people think I'm sick or something because I don't have tan lines |
| 13:24.38 | greycat | asuffield: there's .fl.us pale, and then there's .uk pale. |
| 13:24.39 | asg | jethr0: set the sgid bit on the container directory. |
| 13:24.50 | simonrvn | URGENT BUSINESS ASSISTANCE |
| 13:24.52 | yoni | Ah ok Guerin, tks |
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| 13:24.53 | helix | asuffield: but florida is sort of odd. people go to tanning beds here, round year. |
| 13:25.01 | streuner | helix: why not? |
| 13:25.03 | cafuego | simonrvn: X-Spam-Status: YES |
| 13:25.08 | asg | jethr0: and set CVSUMASK=0007 in the user's env |
| 13:25.09 | helix | streuner: what would be the point of that? |
| 13:25.10 | hexxeh|work | !info kernel-image-2.6.8-10-em64t-p4 |
| 13:25.10 | jethr0 | asg: can't that be dealt with on the configuration of cvs? I didn't have to setgid the container on openbsd and I m worrying |
| 13:25.11 | jharrisonwk | helix: yes FL is odd :) |
| 13:25.13 | jethr0 | ooooh |
| 13:25.14 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6.8-10-em64t-p4: (Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on Intel EM64T systems), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.8-12 (sid), Packaged size: 12869 kB, Installed size: 44396 kB |
| 13:25.15 | jethr0 | asg: thanks :) |
| 13:25.17 | helix | yeah, we suck, la la la |
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| 13:25.20 | streuner | helix: lots of money? |
| 13:25.28 | simonrvn | cafuego: SA: Action: silently tossed message: score=118.9 |
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| 13:25.32 | helix | streuner: hrm |
| 13:25.35 | cafuego | simonrvn: Woo! |
| 13:25.40 | helix | streuner: to do what, like clean out animal poop or something? |
| 13:25.46 | simonrvn | blackhole (local_scan discarded recipients) |
| 13:25.47 | helix | I haven't seen the simple life |
| 13:25.51 | cafuego | !sa-record is 118.9 (simonrvn) |
| 13:25.51 | dpkg | cafuego: okay |
| 13:25.54 | streuner | helix: hm |
| 13:25.57 | asuffield | greycat: this must be some strange new definition of 'pale' that I'm not familiar with |
| 13:26.09 | jharrisonwk | its all fun and games until a seagull shits on your head and eats your fries |
| 13:26.09 | karsten | yoni: Maybe showing your partition table, disk allocation, and mount table would help. |
| 13:26.10 | greycat | asuffield: I think it means "not deep-fried" |
| 13:26.11 | yoni | tks too karsten i'll go read there ! Hope to be back soon with a STABLE debian :) |
| 13:26.13 | karsten | !tell yoni about esp |
| 13:26.23 | raf256 | what was that option to stop damn login manager from starting? |
| 13:26.26 | Guerin | simonrvn: wow |
| 13:26.30 | raf256 | like damn gdm xdm and so on |
| 13:26.32 | helix | asuffield: I am unlikely to get skin cancer due to my sun avoidance; this is a "problem" in florida :) |
| 13:26.33 | Guerin | simonrvn: was it one of mine? |
| 13:26.35 | streuner | raf256: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 13:26.35 | raf256 | echo "false" > ..... ? |
| 13:26.37 | douglas | when I try to run something I've written in sdl with sound I get this: "open /dev/sequencer: No such device found." And then it seg faults out, how do I fix this? I've googled it a bit but I can't figure it out! |
| 13:26.45 | helix | people here rub baby oil on themselves when they go in the sun |
| 13:26.46 | simonrvn | Guerin: no :) |
| 13:26.46 | hexxeh|work | cafuego, amd64-libs is required to run x86_64 code on i386 sarge on intel chips, is that poetic enough? |
| 13:26.50 | asg | helix: especially among .uk tourists |
| 13:26.59 | karsten | !tell raf256 about xdm |
| 13:26.59 | streuner | haha |
| 13:27.00 | cafuego | helix: But you lot HAVE an actual ozone layer |
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| 13:27.05 | helix | oh yeah, .uk tourists in florida are *great* |
| 13:27.06 | Guerin | jesus |
| 13:27.07 | helix | so. pale. |
| 13:27.14 | helix | and then SO. RED. |
| 13:27.17 | Guerin | when I went back to NZ I got fearsomely burnt |
| 13:27.19 | asg | helix: then pink and flaky |
| 13:27.23 | helix | yeah |
| 13:27.23 | raf256 | whats name of that thingy (package) to have mouse in pure console? |
| 13:27.25 | jharrisonwk | helix: thats bright |
| 13:27.26 | shad_ | is there a way i could pipe mysqldump through gzip and ssh to create the file on another server? fs is mounted ro |
| 13:27.27 | Guerin | on a cloudy, foggy day |
| 13:27.29 | cafuego | Guerin: Yeah, 30 mins is enough down here :-( |
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| 13:27.33 | asuffield | helix: you have to realise that the normal colour for people is not 'brown' :P |
| 13:27.39 | helix | asuffield: oh, I know that |
| 13:27.39 | asg | shad_: yes |
| 13:27.40 | karsten | raf256: gdm |
| 13:27.42 | Guerin | cafuego: yeah, was about 2 hours on a beach, with 30+ |
| 13:27.45 | zinx | assu: it is for some people :/ |
| 13:27.46 | helix | I am quite fond of fair skin |
| 13:27.47 | cafuego | asuffield: Pff. racist. |
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| 13:27.55 | greycat | shad_: mysqldump | gzip | ssh otherbox 'cat > /var/tmp/blah' |
| 13:28.01 | jharrisonwk | helix: there were 3 tourists here that heard if you put coke on your body you will tan well, so they did that and 2 of them died from such bad sun burns |
| 13:28.05 | shad_ | greycat thx |
| 13:28.09 | cafuego | asuffield: They started out brown but got pale as they moved north |
| 13:28.09 | raf256 | karsten *dpkg* rumour has it, gdm is the Gnome Display Manager. |
| 13:28.12 | helix | haha. I mean, that's horrible, but haha |
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| 13:28.20 | karsten | Um... |
| 13:28.20 | chealer | raf256: it's gpm instead of gdm |
| 13:28.24 | hexxeh|work | !gpm |
| 13:28.25 | dpkg | somebody said gpm was if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
| 13:28.25 | raf256 | so gdm is that graphics thingy to log in, or that thing to hae mouse in textr console? |
| 13:28.32 | asuffield | uhh... *coke*? |
| 13:28.39 | streuner | raf256: gpm |
| 13:28.40 | Guerin | cola or aine? |
| 13:28.40 | karsten | raf256: Um.. Doh. |
| 13:28.40 | asuffield | you're more likely to die from being dissolved |
| 13:28.40 | helix | I had tan lines when I was younger |
| 13:28.41 | asg | asuffield: coca cola |
| 13:28.44 | greycat | asuffield: smells of urban legend to me |
| 13:28.44 | raf256 | ok |
| 13:28.47 | zinx | PLIP is being ultra-slow, even with an IRQ on both ends :( |
| 13:28.49 | karsten | raf256: what streuner said. |
| 13:28.52 | jharrisonwk | Guerin: hehe cola |
| 13:28.55 | asuffield | haah, helix used to be a beach bunny |
| 13:28.58 | karsten | jharrisonwk: Where's here? |
| 13:29.01 | jharrisonwk | Guerin: dont worry the cocaine wont hurt you |
| 13:29.03 | jm_ | zinx: how slow is that? |
| 13:29.04 | helix | nah, I played sports |
| 13:29.04 | jharrisonwk | karsten: bahamas |
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| 13:29.06 | raf256 | why "gpm" ? |
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| 13:29.10 | cafuego | helix has a surf board? |
| 13:29.11 | helix | I always hated the beach, the ocean is scary |
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| 13:29.13 | zinx | jm_: probably 1K/s or so |
| 13:29.17 | jharrisonwk | Guerin: at least not externally it shouldn't |
| 13:29.18 | Guerin | bah |
| 13:29.18 | helix | heh, I had a surf board :| |
| 13:29.22 | zinx | jm_: it's getting receive timeouts :/ |
| 13:29.27 | Guerin | i have no time for people who prefer to swim in chlorine |
| 13:29.35 | jharrisonwk | chlorine? |
| 13:29.35 | helix | pools are awesome |
| 13:29.36 | jm_ | zinx: yeah that's horrible, I was getting 75KB/s even with slow 386 |
| 13:29.38 | helix | oceans, not so much |
| 13:29.40 | jharrisonwk | pools suck |
| 13:29.47 | Guerin | agreed |
| 13:29.48 | jharrisonwk | helix: well you are from FL though so pools are good |
| 13:29.50 | zinx | jm_: i blame the receive timeouts :/ |
| 13:29.51 | asuffield | swimming is for people who capsized |
| 13:29.51 | raf256 | !gdm |
| 13:29.52 | helix | yeah |
| 13:29.52 | dpkg | [gdm] the Gnome Display Manager. A gnome based display manager based on xdm, but with no original xdm code. Written with looks (and security) in mind.. see gdm fix, or uses ~/.gnomerc instead of ~/.xsession, or kicks ass!, or (a word that You can confuse with "gpm", gpm is that thingy to have mouse cursor in text console) |
| 13:29.53 | cafuego | Guerin: It's nicer then swimming in urine. |
| 13:29.55 | helix | asuffield: hahaha |
| 13:29.56 | jharrisonwk | FL beachs suck |
| 13:29.57 | asuffield | or hit a rock and sank |
| 13:30.01 | Guerin | pools are what stupid inlanders build when they haven't got lakes or rivers |
| 13:30.06 | jm_ | zinx: maybe the cable is bad |
| 13:30.11 | helix | jharrisonwk: not all of them -- the stuff by the gulf of mexico is reaaaaaaally pretty |
| 13:30.11 | jharrisonwk | I wouldn't swim ever again in a FL if you paid me a million dollars |
| 13:30.22 | jharrisonwk | helix: yeah I have been to them |
| 13:30.23 | helix | but on the east coast, yeah, it's gross |
| 13:30.25 | jharrisonwk | helix: trust me they suck |
| 13:30.27 | helix | jharrisonwk: those aren't bad! |
| 13:30.31 | zinx | jm_: possibly.. it's also a 486SX/25 laptop |
| 13:30.32 | jharrisonwk | helix: oh yes they are |
| 13:30.33 | helix | oh, well, you do live in the bahamas :P |
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| 13:30.37 | jharrisonwk | helix: :) |
| 13:30.43 | cafuego | Guerin: I dare you to swim in the Yarra. |
| 13:30.44 | jharrisonwk | helix: if you ever come here you will see what I mean |
| 13:30.47 | helix | swimming in water which you can see through is pretty great |
| 13:30.51 | cafuego | Guerin: ... and live. |
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| 13:30.59 | Guerin | cafuego: top end should be alright |
| 13:31.01 | helix | but I can't go in the sun for that long |
| 13:31.08 | jharrisonwk | helix: sunblock? |
| 13:31.14 | cafuego | Guerin: Can't swim there, only wade. |
| 13:31.22 | helix | it doesn't work; even the stuff they make for babies, like spf 100 doesn't work |
| 13:31.27 | helix | I still burn after 20 minutes |
| 13:31.32 | jharrisonwk | helix: are you serious? |
| 13:31.34 | Guerin | cafuego: heh |
| 13:31.38 | cafuego | Guerin: It only gets deep and wide enough once the sewers join it |
| 13:31.42 | jharrisonwk | helix: they have that 8 hour water proof stuff |
| 13:31.42 | asuffield | helix: wear clothes |
| 13:31.46 | Dmess | pinkey we call em.. |
| 13:31.47 | jharrisonwk | helix: none of that works? |
| 13:31.49 | helix | yeah dude, I'm like one of those creatures that lives at the bottom of the sea and never sees light |
| 13:31.55 | helix | jharrisonwk: oh, haven't tried that |
| 13:31.57 | jharrisonwk | asuffield: you cant wear cloths to swim in |
| 13:32.05 | helix | asuffield: wtf, why? that's insanity |
| 13:32.09 | cafuego | helix: Do what my wife does, bunbaths fully dresses, under a blanket, under an umbrella. |
| 13:32.11 | jharrisonwk | helix: you need that think goopy sunblock |
| 13:32.18 | jharrisonwk | helix: that stuff should work |
| 13:32.19 | helix | cafuego: haha |
| 13:32.23 | helix | jharrisonwk: yeah, maybe |
| 13:32.25 | Guerin | cafuego: bunbaths? |
| 13:32.29 | cafuego | helix: (and with sunscreen on) |
| 13:32.33 | helix | it's a pity, I have a cute bathing suit |
| 13:32.36 | cafuego | Guerin: s/s/e/ |
| 13:32.39 | greycat | maybe you need *clothes* |
| 13:32.41 | stew | helix: you need to move out of florida |
| 13:32.42 | jethr0 | asg: should I chmod -R on the container? |
| 13:32.42 | karsten | helix: There's a whole line of sunproof clothing, including for swimmers and stuff. |
| 13:32.48 | streuner | cafuego: not a bad idea in .au :-) |
| 13:32.49 | helix | karsten: oh, cool |
| 13:32.49 | asuffield | helix: well don't do it an injustice by wearing it, then :P |
| 13:32.59 | cafuego | streuner: Yeah, no shit :-( |
| 13:33.05 | asg | jethr0: yes, be careful. |
| 13:33.13 | jharrisonwk | asuffield: thats not nice |
| 13:33.13 | Guerin | now that I live in the damn mountains, I'm not sure where I'm going to swim |
| 13:33.15 | helix | asuffield: maybe you could wear it? you'd look absolutely adorable in red |
| 13:33.21 | asuffield | jharrisonwk: *I'm* not nice |
| 13:33.27 | jharrisonwk | asuffield: I noticed |
| 13:33.29 | cafuego | Guerin: Downstream of the glacier |
| 13:33.30 | Guerin | i'll need to descend to the coast once in a while to get my salt levels back up |
| 13:33.34 | asuffield | helix: I bet it wouldn't fit |
| 13:33.42 | jethr0 | asg: I moved files from the openbsd cvs to the one hosted on the linux now, how and why should I be carefull? |
| 13:33.43 | helix | sure it would, it's stretchy |
| 13:33.52 | helix | and the top ties |
| 13:33.54 | karsten | helix: Lots of swimmers end up really sun-sensitive. |
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| 13:33.56 | jharrisonwk | Guerin: are you not happy being a landlubber? |
| 13:34.00 | asg | jethr0: I was referring to 'chmod -R' |
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| 13:34.16 | greycat | chmod -R is a very dangerous command. |
| 13:34.23 | jethr0 | asg: I was just about to chmod -R g+s /home/cvs actually :) |
| 13:34.23 | Guerin | jharrisonwk: I'm fine as long as I'm within walk of a decent stream or lake, or the sea |
| 13:34.26 | zinx | it doesn't really seem like it's using DMA on this side |
| 13:34.27 | asg | !i frobbed my perms with chmod |
| 13:34.27 | dpkg | Ouch. In the future, running 'find / \( -name proc -prune \) -o \( -name sys -prune \) -o -name "*" -print0 | xargs -0 ls -ld > /var/backups/permissions.bak' as root from a nightly cronjob will at least allow you to script some recovery. |
| 13:34.38 | jharrisonwk | Guerin: sounds like you need to go on a spearfishing trip |
| 13:34.40 | Guerin | jharrisonwk: but out here there are only reservoirs for potable water and fishing |
| 13:34.41 | helix | asuffield: anyway, I'll bring it to finland, you can try it on |
| 13:34.53 | Guerin | jharrisonwk: word |
| 13:34.57 | asuffield | 'chmod 0700 -R / foo' |
| 13:34.59 | karsten | helix: google 'sunblock clothing' |
| 13:35.11 | jharrisonwk | Guerin: you could swim out 3 miles with a floating bucket and spearfish all day and then swim home with a bucket full of nice fish |
| 13:35.20 | helix | coolibar |
| 13:35.21 | cafuego | karsten: google 'leather mining wear' |
| 13:35.22 | Guerin | jharrisonwk: that sound like me |
| 13:35.28 | jharrisonwk | Guerin: just dont get any blood in the water ;) |
| 13:35.31 | helix | that's cool |
| 13:35.31 | asuffield | helix: I am not wearing something that you've been swimming in, anyway |
| 13:35.32 | jethr0 | asuffield: don't try to trick me into typo'ing my chmod -R ;) |
| 13:35.37 | helix | asuffield: why not? |
| 13:35.44 | asuffield | helix: that would be icky |
| 13:35.48 | Guerin | girl germs? |
| 13:35.56 | helix | why? chlorine cleans stuff, right? |
| 13:35.56 | karsten | cafuego: Heh. |
| 13:36.00 | helix | and it's not like I haven't washed it |
| 13:36.06 | karsten | cafuego: Try swimming in that. |
| 13:36.21 | cafuego | karsten: Only in private *blush* |
| 13:36.43 | karsten | cafuego: ;-) |
| 13:36.45 | cafuego | helix: chlorine kills stuff, it doesn't clean it. |
| 13:36.51 | greycat | Guerin: we already know asuffield only likes anime girls, not women |
| 13:36.51 | helix | asuffield: what if I brought you your own bikini? would you wear that? |
| 13:36.59 | asuffield | helix: I am thinking not |
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| 13:37.06 | Guerin | greycat: fair play |
| 13:37.21 | helix | asuffield: even if it were in a flattering color? |
| 13:37.27 | Guerin | helix is not japanese and 14 enough |
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| 13:37.40 | cafuego | helix: bikini tops anc chest hair do not mix. |
| 13:37.59 | helix | cafuego: well, mine is like a halter top, so it could theoretically cover that up! |
| 13:38.07 | helix | I don't think suff has chest hair though |
| 13:38.11 | cafuego | helix: haha, no chance. |
| 13:38.15 | helix | he doesn't seem like he'd be excessively hairy |
| 13:38.33 | cafuego | helix: we call him wolfboy when you're not here |
| 13:38.50 | stew | ooops. client just figured out that i mistakenly checked in code that was creating a file named /tmp/fuckyou every time you ran the program |
| 13:38.59 | greycat | hahahaha |
| 13:39.02 | helix | haha |
| 13:39.03 | hexxeh|work | XD |
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| 13:39.06 | simonrvn | heheh |
| 13:39.14 | henkkaaa | hah :) |
| 13:39.23 | hexxeh|work | i only used to do that when i was at school, and they didn't care as long as the code ran |
| 13:39.33 | cafuego | stew: "mistakenly" eh. |
| 13:39.38 | stew | at least it never made it to any of his clients |
| 13:39.42 | karsten | cafuego: They don't mix. They *do* complement. |
| 13:39.49 | greycat | dpkg, flw32 is <stew> ooops. client just figured out that i mistakenly checked in code that was creating a file named /tmp/fuckyou every time you ran the program |
| 13:39.49 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
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| 13:39.56 | helix | asuffield: what about a one piece? if it were suitably "manly" |
| 13:39.58 | greycat | dpkg, famous last words =~ s/31/32|32/ |
| 13:39.58 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 13:40.01 | hexxeh|work | !flw |
| 13:40.01 | dpkg | < JohnFlux> gandalf: i don't think X will crash |
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| 13:40.04 | cafuego | karsten: I was just contemplating braiding chesthair into a personal bikini top |
| 13:40.23 | asuffield | helix: why are you obsessing about this? |
| 13:40.27 | cafuego | helix: All top swimmers wear those, he can't possibly refuse. |
| 13:40.31 | helix | cafuego: that'd be hot, but you need to get nipple shields too |
| 13:40.33 | stew | it was one of those things where i was getting frustrated at the time i wrote the code, once i got things working i was so psyched i forgot to take out the offending code |
| 13:40.39 | jharrisonwk | hehe |
| 13:40.44 | helix | asuffield: because you haven't outright said you'd never wear a women's bathing suit |
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| 13:40.48 | karsten | cafuego: Now *that* is a picture. |
| 13:40.48 | jharrisonwk | you guys are just going off your rockers |
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| 13:40.53 | daffy-pkf | re |
| 13:40.55 | cafuego | helix: cufflinks maybe |
| 13:41.04 | asuffield | cafuego: as I said, swimming is for people who capsized (or fell in, like an idiot) |
| 13:41.11 | helix | I bet suff can't swim |
| 13:41.14 | cafuego | karsten: I jut remmebered a book of "bad haircuts" that my friend has |
| 13:41.20 | slamse | where do i specity the smtpserver to use for nullmailer? |
| 13:41.24 | asuffield | I have a five mile swimming certificate someplace :P |
| 13:41.27 | karsten | jharrisonwk: s/are just going/have long been/ |
| 13:41.31 | helix | heh |
| 13:41.37 | helix | so much for that |
| 13:41.39 | jharrisonwk | karsten: ? |
| 13:41.47 | cafuego | asuffield: Pff. i do that much every week and don't get a CERTIFICATE for it. |
| 13:41.47 | streuner | slamse: what MTA do you have? |
| 13:42.14 | asuffield | cafuego: I was like, 14 or something. they give you certificates when you do shit at that age |
| 13:42.19 | karsten | jharrisonwk: You're familiar with s/regex/replacement/ ? |
| 13:42.20 | cafuego | streuner: you win! |
| 13:42.24 | asg | asuffield: the mandatory school swiming badges? |
| 13:42.27 | slamse | streuner: actually, i just installed it with apt-get so i guess it's the one that comes with that package.. exim or so |
| 13:42.36 | asuffield | asg: something like that |
| 13:42.42 | jharrisonwk | karsten: yes |
| 13:42.45 | cafuego | slamse: nullmailer uses nullmailer |
| 13:42.59 | jharrisonwk | karsten: but im not sure I follow what you said to me |
| 13:43.00 | streuner | !info nullmailer |
| 13:43.05 | dpkg | nullmailer: (simple relay-only mail transport agent), section mail, is extra. Version: 1.00RC7-22 (sid), Packaged size: 77 kB, Installed size: 408 kB |
| 13:43.13 | karsten | jharrisonwk: What you said. Substitued. |
| 13:43.14 | helix | 5 miles is a lot of swimming |
| 13:43.19 | asuffield | helix: besides, I'm not going to say outright that I'd never do it. but I'm not going to be your dress-up doll either :P |
| 13:43.25 | asuffield | it's only about an hour |
| 13:43.25 | jharrisonwk | karsten: ah :) |
| 13:43.25 | helix | that's so cute! |
| 13:43.26 | slamse | i know what nullmailer is i jst don't know in what configfile to specify the smtpsevrer., |
| 13:43.30 | cafuego | helix: about 60 25m laps a day |
| 13:43.35 | karsten | jharrisonwk: 06:41 < jharrisonwk> you guys are just going off your rockers |
| 13:43.41 | karsten | jharrisonwk: Right. |
| 13:43.43 | asg | slamse: dpkg-reconfigure nullmailer ; follow the prompts |
| 13:43.45 | cafuego | slamse: try 'dpkg-reconfigure nullmailer' |
| 13:43.46 | greycat | slamse: then read its docs |
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| 13:43.50 | streuner | slamse: cafuego already told you |
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| 13:43.58 | karsten | asuffield: That _is_ pretty impressive. |
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| 13:44.06 | pingouin | why lftp or wget give me errors when i want to download Big .iso file for some distro to burn on dvd ? |
| 13:44.09 | helix | I have a whole new respect for the suff |
| 13:44.17 | asuffield | karsten: not particularly, all it takes is boredom |
| 13:44.18 | greycat | pingouin: 2GB limit? |
| 13:44.21 | pingouin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.21 | prcko | does anyone know about problems with exim4 in sid if its broken |
| 13:44.23 | pingouin | yep |
| 13:44.29 | helix | asuffield: will you let us put make up on you at least? |
| 13:44.32 | jm_ | pingouin: are you using Debian 3.0? |
| 13:44.32 | asuffield | you have to be pretty bored to spend an hour swimming nowhere in particular |
| 13:44.33 | greycat | pingouin: what kernel, what file system, what version of debian? |
| 13:44.35 | asg | !btssmite prcko |
| 13:44.36 | streuner | prcko: BTS would know |
| 13:44.38 | jethr0 | pingouin: are you using lftp and wget on the hurd ? ;) |
| 13:44.38 | asuffield | helix: no. fantasise about somebody else |
| 13:44.46 | simonrvn | prcko: it's not borken. your conf is |
| 13:44.53 | cafuego | pingouin: Are you trying to save th file on vfat or something? |
| 13:44.55 | pingouin | oh my god ;) |
| 13:44.56 | helix | no one else is going to react in such a funny manner though |
| 13:45.01 | asg | hehe |
| 13:45.04 | karsten | asuffield: Five miles? 8800 yards. 352 laps. That's a goodly swim. |
| 13:45.20 | karsten | asuffield: I've had a few days of ~10k yards, but that's two workouts. |
| 13:45.21 | pingouin | ok ok , Linux version 2.6.11.6 |
| 13:45.28 | prcko | simonrvn: u know how to fix it |
| 13:45.31 | pingouin | maybe i've forget something in the kernel option |
| 13:45.37 | asg | karsten: one hour swiming isn't really that bad, it just sounds like it. |
| 13:45.43 | forkqueue | c |
| 13:45.44 | pingouin | damn |
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| 13:45.48 | forkqueue | Gah |
| 13:45.52 | simonrvn | prcko: no. i don't know what you broke |
| 13:45.55 | karsten | asg: Trust me, I've done plenty of one-hour swims. |
| 13:45.57 | forkqueue | I swear I have keyboard tourettes or something |
| 13:46.01 | cafuego | It's invigorating |
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| 13:46.09 | asuffield | it's... pretty pointless really |
| 13:46.10 | asg | karsten: yeah |
| 13:46.13 | greycat | pingouin: what kernel, what file system, what version of debian? |
| 13:46.19 | karsten | asg: Standard workout was 90 minutes. Generally 4k - 6k yards. |
| 13:46.20 | biggi_mat | hi. i have local network (modem--server(debian)--workstation(slackware/windows). before i was installing debian all over again eerything worked just fine but now it doesn't. the connection is kinda established (the green light) but there is no traffic between this two computers (orange light). i blame debian server for that. on debian the card module is loaded and works, i guess. what else could go wrong? |
| 13:46.39 | pingouin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:46.41 | prcko | simonrvn: i never done anything with the conf files for exim so they are as made by the package |
| 13:46.42 | greycat | (this is the part where we learn that he's not actually *using* Debian, isn't it?) |
| 13:46.48 | helix | well, just sitting around in the pool is neat |
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| 13:46.52 | karsten | asg: I'm biking as of recent, 19 - 50 miles in the past few weeks. Feels pretty damned good. |
| 13:46.57 | karsten | charles: Leather! |
| 13:46.58 | asg | helix: well, there is that |
| 13:47.02 | karsten | charles: NM. |
| 13:47.06 | asuffield | (I quit shortly after that, just couldn't see any point bothering any more) |
| 13:47.07 | karsten | cafuego: Leather PJs? |
| 13:47.10 | charles | ù |
| 13:47.20 | asg | karsten: I keep meaning to get back to that. I haven't been on a bike in 20 years or so though. |
| 13:47.25 | cafuego | karsten: Latex lingerie (ask helix) |
| 13:47.36 | karsten | biggi_mat: NAT. |
| 13:47.36 | stew | prcko: someone was in here last night with such a problem and said they were going to post a workaround to the bts |
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| 13:47.38 | helix | insert your math symbols, baby |
| 13:47.45 | asuffield | ...helix in latex lingerie? |
| 13:47.46 | karsten | helix: Latex lingerie? |
| 13:47.54 | asuffield | that's just... weird |
| 13:48.00 | helix | what? |
| 13:48.10 | karsten | asg: Living in Napa, it's among the better things going. |
| 13:48.13 | darxeth | hey i got an error on startup: Informational - artsmessege. sound server,,, Error while initializing the sound driver: cant set requested samplingrate. how can i restor or check my sound driver again? |
| 13:48.17 | prcko | stew: thnx very much for that info , happy to hear that :) |
| 13:48.18 | karsten | helix: ^^ cafuego. |
| 13:48.23 | jharrisonwk | helix: here in the bahamas there is an island where an ocean hole runs from the beach on one side under the island to the beach on the other side |
| 13:48.25 | simonrvn | prcko: i don't know. mine works fine. using sid. so you broke it somehow |
| 13:48.28 | hexxeh|work | !flw |
| 13:48.28 | dpkg | hmm... flw7 is <nickv111> I use unstable and have never run into problems |
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| 13:48.36 | pingouin | greycat: Linux version 2.6.11.6 , on ext3, 3.1 sarge , i surely forget something while building the kernel ? |
| 13:48.45 | biggi_mat | karsten what do you mean by nat? i did ifconfig shings (netmask and broadcast) and iptables (--table nat, POSTROUTING, MASQUERADE) and ofcourse echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward. what else should i do? |
| 13:48.50 | asg | karsten: true, there are plenty of nice places there. Here in NC, it's rather boring scenery-wise, unless you go to the mountains. |
| 13:48.51 | asuffield | I shall go and create some problems in unstable at once |
| 13:48.51 | jharrisonwk | helix: so when the tides shift one side blows water up out of the hole and the other side sucks it in |
| 13:48.52 | karsten | asuffield: Still miss swimming a tad. It's a good all-weather workout. |
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| 13:49.05 | helix | I wonder what I was doing when the discussion of the kernel versions like 2.6.x.y were going on |
| 13:49.06 | karsten | biggi_mat: Well, that was a starting suggestion.... |
| 13:49.08 | greycat | pingouin: I seriously doubt it's a kernel config issue. |
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| 13:49.10 | helix | did I fall into a hole that week? |
| 13:49.16 | hexxeh|work | helix, yes. |
| 13:49.17 | jharrisonwk | helix: you want to stay away from the side sucking water in but the side blowing it out is nice to hover over |
| 13:49.18 | greycat | pingouin: more likely, a limitation of wget |
| 13:49.21 | simonrvn | afk |
| 13:49.22 | biggi_mat | karsten go on :) |
| 13:49.22 | hexxeh|work | !tell helix about kernel of instability |
| 13:49.29 | jharrisonwk | helix: until the tides shift anyways :) |
| 13:49.38 | helix | oh, I read that when it was on lkml |
| 13:49.45 | helix | I don't remember the x.y stuff though |
| 13:49.50 | helix | just the 2.6 development model |
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| 13:49.55 | helix | jharrisonwk: that sounds perverted |
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| 13:49.59 | hexxeh|work | 32bit wget can't properly report on or resume files over 2gb |
| 13:50.05 | karsten | biggi_mat: Make sure all your interfaces are up. Double-check your nat. Can you ping host-to-host? What's your routing look like? What connectivity does/doesn't work? Are your default routes set? |
| 13:50.05 | greycat | one wonders why one would *ever* use wget to fetch a DVD .iso image, rather than a bittorrent client. |
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| 13:50.23 | pingouin | hexxeh|work: lftp also it seems |
| 13:50.25 | greycat | greed? |
| 13:50.28 | karsten | asg: Where in NC? RTP? |
| 13:50.33 | helix | bittorrent is slow |
| 13:50.33 | asg | karsten: Charlotte |
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| 13:50.39 | asuffield | helix: what, you've never seen jacuzzi porn? |
| 13:50.42 | petemc | helix: hows that? |
| 13:50.46 | hexxeh|work | pingouin, blame lazy programming? wget is fine with large files when compiled for amd64 |
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| 13:50.53 | helix | asuffield: no |
| 13:50.56 | greycat | helix: leeching off a server until the server admin takes it down is even slower in the long run |
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| 13:51.01 | karsten | asg: Web? |
| 13:51.05 | pingouin | hexxeh|work: ok thx |
| 13:51.05 | helix | petemc: because it takes upstream bandwidth too |
| 13:51.11 | Coke | greycat: depends on where the FTP site is VS what torrent seeds are out there. |
| 13:51.19 | helix | so instead of downloading at like 150k/s it downloads at like, 15 |
| 13:51.23 | karsten | asg: Let me guess: there's a web design firm in Charlotte called "Charlotte's Web" |
| 13:51.29 | greycat | helix: throttle the upstream appropriately |
| 13:51.29 | asuffield | bittorrent is "slow", hah |
| 13:51.33 | asg | karsten: that was an old BBS originally |
| 13:51.35 | asuffield | when bittorrent first came out, I was a student at IC |
| 13:51.41 | biggi_mat | karsten to be honest i don't understand some of the things you asked. my interfaces are all up. i can't ping my local IPs. i don't know what to say on questions about routing |
| 13:51.43 | slamse | also I would like to know how to search for something within a file searching all files on drive |
| 13:51.44 | helix | I don't have time for that ;P |
| 13:51.45 | asg | karsten: then became a web thing. |
| 13:51.48 | karsten | asg: Go figure. |
| 13:51.50 | greycat | slamse: grep -r pattern /etc |
| 13:51.51 | Coke | bittorrent is not slower than anything else. it's a bandwidth issue. |
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| 13:51.57 | asuffield | we tried it on one of the lab boxes. left it running ten minutes, as we knew it took a little while to get going |
| 13:51.58 | helix | I've only used bittorrent like twice though |
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| 13:51.59 | greycat | slamse: (you DO NOT want to search the whole file system.) |
| 13:51.59 | slamse | greycat: ok, ty |
| 13:52.07 | jm_ | and how much the peers are willing to use for upload rate |
| 13:52.07 | hexxeh|work | bittorrent is fine for me when i use it, though irritatingly i can't use it at work to get dvd isos of linuxy things (university acceptable use policy explicitly forbids it) |
| 13:52.08 | slamse | i got the time hehe |
| 13:52.09 | asg | karsten: yep |
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| 13:52.23 | asuffield | when we came back, we all sat around staring at it for about a minute. then we did some math. I always remember the phrase "I think the limiting factor is the network card" |
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| 13:52.24 | Coke | jm_: I have no limit. I use 100% of my enormouse 740k upload stream. |
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| 13:52.37 | asuffield | and "maybe we should stop doing that before the sysadmins kill us" |
| 13:52.37 | helix | cafuego: I am still unable to find transparent latex thongs, though google finds some briefs |
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| 13:52.45 | karsten | asg: http://www.city-data.com/city/Charlotte-North-Carolina.html |
| 13:52.58 | jm_ | Coke: I noticed my downloads slowed down when I did that with 768kbps link, don't see that effect with 256kbps |
| 13:53.01 | karsten | biggi_mat: How many boxes? |
| 13:53.07 | asuffield | (yup, we saturated 100Mbit of traffic) |
| 13:53.11 | sml | is there any sane reason why chroot would segfault ? |
| 13:53.19 | biggi_mat | karsten this one (server) and workstation, so 2 |
| 13:53.53 | zinx | there we go.. not going any faster, but at least i have DMA locally :P |
| 13:53.54 | karsten | biggi_mat: Server IP(s)? How many NICs? |
| 13:54.04 | karsten | biggi_mat: ...and what's your external connection? Cable-router or cable-modem? |
| 13:54.12 | biggi_mat | karsten server IP is 192.168.0.1 |
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| 13:54.29 | biggi_mat | karsten external connection is DSL |
| 13:54.31 | karsten | biggi_mat: ...where route is a switch w/ multiple ports, modem == 1 internal port. |
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| 13:54.49 | opqdonut | aptitude totally rocks :) |
| 13:54.51 | karsten | biggi_mat: Same story DSL vs. cable. |
| 13:54.59 | asuffield | helix: why were you even looking? |
| 13:55.31 | biggi_mat | karsten everything worked for 1 year. now when i reinstalled the server something goes wrong. |
| 13:55.34 | opqdonut | karsten: biggi_mat: are you talking about sharing a dsl connection? |
| 13:55.34 | helix | asuffield: it's a joke that would take too long to explain |
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| 13:55.52 | helix | actually, I don't even remember how it began |
| 13:55.56 | biggi_mat | opqdonut about my local net that doesn't work. kinda sharing yes. |
| 13:56.01 | karsten | biggi_mat: Yeah, that's not really useful diagnostic info. |
| 13:56.03 | helix | but I think cafuego started it |
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| 13:56.19 | imahcine | HI! ;] |
| 13:56.24 | imahcine | question. |
| 13:56.24 | _joey | is there a tool to monitor bandwidth on a specific service ? |
| 13:56.36 | biggi_mat | karsten i no. it is just wierd for me why is that like that |
| 13:56.40 | imahcine | how may i enable dri on debian? |
| 13:56.40 | biggi_mat | know * |
| 13:56.43 | karsten | !tell imahcine about ask |
| 13:56.46 | imahcine | using sarge here, with sid packages. |
| 13:56.48 | Zta | I can't get who(1) to work on my busybox-system because /var/run/utmp is missing. Where do I enable this? In the kernel or in busybox or perhaps uClibc? |
| 13:56.50 | streuner | _joey: try iptrfa |
| 13:56.53 | streuner | _joey: try iptraf |
| 13:56.59 | helix | I'm thinking a saran wrap thong would be very uncomfortable |
| 13:57.00 | hexxeh|work | imahcine, which would be sid, not sarge. which card? |
| 13:57.01 | karsten | biggi_mat: Yes. How about providing details ;-) |
| 13:57.15 | imahcine | karsten, please, i beg of you, dont use that bot machine. |
| 13:57.16 | biggi_mat | karsten ask what you would need to know :) |
| 13:57.19 | greycat | Zta: doesn't sound like debian to me. |
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| 13:57.21 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, well. savage3d. |
| 13:57.22 | helix | though it may mitigate against a "not so fresh feeling" they talk about on commercials |
| 13:57.24 | biggi_mat | and i hope i can tell you |
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| 13:57.37 | asuffield | isn't that just clingfilm? |
| 13:57.38 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, i hear its working in the latest dri release. |
| 13:57.40 | imahcine | linux only tho. |
| 13:57.43 | imahcine | hence the debian ;] |
| 13:57.46 | helix | asuffield: yeah, probably |
| 13:57.52 | hexxeh|work | imahcine, oh lord. does the specific model in question have any dri support in the xfree86 4.3 in sid? |
| 13:57.54 | karsten | biggi_mat: What's the workstation IP? What's the server IP? |
| 13:58.03 | helix | asuffield: another example of US people calling something by the brand name instead of what it actually is :) |
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| 13:58.13 | biggi_mat | karsten workstation IP is 192.168.0.2 , server is 192.168.0.1 |
| 13:58.14 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, not to my knowledge. more like inside of xorg. |
| 13:58.26 | Zta | greycat, You're mostly right except it built on Debian =) |
| 13:58.26 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, which is kind of where we're getting now anyway right. |
| 13:58.38 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, i believe there was some packages for xorg in the topic? |
| 13:58.44 | karsten | biggi_mat: How are they connected? Crossover, hub, switch, ... ? |
| 13:58.44 | darxeth | how can i enable the smbd on my pc? i apt-get installed samba, and configutred it as well, but still when i type smbstatus, or go check on the other windows based computer, i cant find any entries. |
| 13:58.46 | greycat | Zta: it's one of those "if you don't know how to do it, then you can't do it" things, I think. |
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| 13:59.03 | biggi_mat | karsten i have crossover |
| 13:59.05 | greycat | anyway, I have a strong personal dislike of utmp. |
| 13:59.09 | karsten | darxeth: $EDITOR /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 13:59.16 | yoni | while doing netinstall of woody it ask for a source (ftp) i have http://http:us.debian.org/debian ... it doesn't work, the url is wrong ? |
| 13:59.19 | greycat | it's a piss-poor way to track authentications |
| 13:59.30 | asuffield | utmp's pretty useless |
| 13:59.31 | Zta | greycat, "..unless you ask someone and they help you". |
| 13:59.33 | imahcine | yoh_, http:us ? |
| 13:59.36 | biggi_mat | yoni the url is quite wrong yes |
| 13:59.37 | imahcine | err. |
| 13:59.38 | karsten | biggi_mat: Check your cable connection. |
| 13:59.39 | imahcine | yoni, ? |
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| 13:59.44 | hexxeh|work | yoni, yes, obviously it's wrong. ever seen a url look like that? |
| 13:59.44 | greycat | Zta: help you understand how shitty and useless who(1) really is? |
| 13:59.46 | biggi_mat | karsten how? |
| 13:59.49 | karsten | biggi_mat: And confirm it's xover, not direct. |
| 13:59.52 | yoni | hu...me neither |
| 14:00.00 | karsten | biggi_mat: Well. |
| 14:00.07 | Zta | greycat, doesn't sound like help to me ;) |
| 14:00.08 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, how does drm support look like in debian 2.6 kernel line ? |
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| 14:00.14 | Zta | greycat, nevertheless, who depends on it. |
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| 14:00.25 | karsten | biggi_mat: ...try unplugging and reconnecting. If you built it yourself, make sure none of the leads are pulled loose in the connectors. |
| 14:00.29 | Zta | who is fine. It gives a list of users online. |
| 14:00.34 | darxeth | karsten: i thought i've done configuring this file in the configuring stage after downloading samba |
| 14:00.35 | karsten | biggi_mat: If you can substitute another cable, do so. |
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| 14:00.38 | greycat | Zta: no it does ont. |
| 14:00.42 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, is it a package one installs that automatically loads a module, or do i have to recompile the kernel, or whats the deal with linux/debian ;] |
| 14:00.48 | greycat | Zta: who(1) gives you the output of PARSING THE utmp FILE. |
| 14:00.50 | biggi_mat | karsten i did all that yesterday, no effect. |
| 14:00.55 | yoni | at last it try to do something, corrected... it goes error immediatly |
| 14:01.01 | karsten | biggi_mat: OK. |
| 14:01.06 | asuffield | Zta: it gives you a list of users who have been online at some point |
| 14:01.09 | greycat | Zta: whether that has any relationship to the users who currently have active login shells on the system depends on what you logged in your utmp file. |
| 14:01.09 | karsten | biggi_mat: Do you have link lights on both NICs? |
| 14:01.11 | asuffield | that's rather less than useful |
| 14:01.17 | hexxeh|work | imahcine, if you use sarge, then hotplug/discover should be loading your drm modules for you. i know i have "radeon" and "drm" loaded, through no effort of my own |
| 14:01.28 | imahcine | oic. |
| 14:01.29 | biggi_mat | karsten yes. they are linked (the green light) |
| 14:01.30 | karsten | biggi_mat: ...and/or do you have a spare hub/switch you can test with? |
| 14:01.33 | Zta | greycat, Ah I see. |
| 14:01.42 | karsten | biggi_mat: Both? |
| 14:01.43 | darxeth | karsten: wins support = yes ; wins server = w.x.y.z ... is there anything else i should look for? |
| 14:01.43 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, you use xorg/xfree ? |
| 14:01.46 | a_monkey | ok. i've installed alsa-base and alsa-utils. but i get an error from xmms saying to make sure that my soundcard is configured correctly. do i need to run alsaconf, or what? |
| 14:01.47 | biggi_mat | karsten i don't have hub or switch for test |
| 14:01.55 | biggi_mat | karsten yes both are on |
| 14:01.58 | hexxeh|work | imahcine, default sarge install. i didn't change or configure anything, 3d just worked. |
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| 14:02.04 | imahcine | isee. |
| 14:02.10 | biggi_mat | karsten only the orange light which is traffic is down... |
| 14:02.17 | yoni | any idea for an url to get my woody install complete ? |
| 14:02.21 | karsten | darxeth: Defaults work out of the box. Create a share and attempt browsing it. |
| 14:02.26 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, well, i get an error saying i do not possess a DRIextension in Xfree. |
| 14:02.26 | greycat | yoni: www.debian.org |
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| 14:02.28 | ep | I just used apt-get to install ntpdate, It ran automatically after I installed it. How did it know what ntp server(s) to use? |
| 14:02.29 | imahcine | which i do however. |
| 14:02.32 | karsten | biggi_mat: OK. |
| 14:02.43 | leOn | hello ... where can i find php 4.2.x or 4.3.x packages for woody ? |
| 14:02.48 | imahcine | ep, /etc/ntpdate.conf ? |
| 14:02.49 | biggi_mat | karsten actually the orange is on on the workstation . only on the server side it's off |
| 14:02.50 | Zta | asuffield, it's the only program busybox offers to get a list of users online, as far as I can see. |
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| 14:03.02 | imahcine | or ntp.conf isi t. |
| 14:03.04 | karsten | biggi_mat: Paste 'route' and 'ifconfig' output from both boxes (floppy transfer if necessary) to... |
| 14:03.10 | ep | hmm |
| 14:03.10 | karsten | !tell biggi_mat about paster |
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| 14:03.13 | greycat | yoni: well of COURSE http://http:us.debian.org/debian is wrong. does it even *look* right? of course not. |
| 14:03.13 | asuffield | Zta: that's because there doesn't exist a vaguely reliable way to get a list of users online |
| 14:03.22 | greycat | yoni: http://http.us.debian.org/debian |
| 14:03.23 | karsten | biggi_mat: ... LMK when you're ready. |
| 14:03.32 | Zta | asuffield, at all or just on busybox? |
| 14:03.37 | asuffield | Zta: pretty much at all |
| 14:03.40 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, what is the drm module called? i cannot seem to locate modprobe drm. |
| 14:03.52 | asuffield | the output of ps is the closest you'll get |
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| 14:04.00 | hexxeh|work | imahcine, are you using a debian kernel-image? |
| 14:04.01 | Zta | asuffield, so what wrong with who(1)? It's just as good as any other program, isn't it? |
| 14:04.02 | biggi_mat | karsten can't paste the thing...i'm only in console, no Xes. |
| 14:04.06 | Zta | ah |
| 14:04.09 | greycat | Zta: man who; man utmp |
| 14:04.12 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, indeed. 2.6.10-1-686 |
| 14:04.21 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, i have this /lib/modules/2.6.10-1-686/kernel/drivers/char/drm |
| 14:04.22 | karsten | biggi_mat: w3m |
| 14:04.31 | hexxeh|work | /lib/modules/2.6.11-9-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko |
| 14:04.34 | asuffield | Zta: /dev/urandom is just as good as most other programs; that doesn't make it a useful way to get information |
| 14:04.38 | hexxeh|work | /lib/modules/2.6.11-9-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko |
| 14:04.41 | karsten | biggi_mat: Gives you vi as your default form editor. |
| 14:04.48 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, however i do not have it built. oh. 2.6.11 ? ;] |
| 14:04.58 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, is that an unoficial kernel build? |
| 14:05.11 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, or otherwise, where can i get 2.6.11 with drm ;) |
| 14:05.11 | hexxeh|work | imahcine, since debian amd64 is technically unofficial |
| 14:05.20 | imahcine | oic. |
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| 14:05.40 | yoni | ok thanks greycat, changed to ftp:ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US and it worked |
| 14:05.40 | a_monkey | nm i got it |
| 14:05.40 | hexxeh|work | !find kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko |
| 14:05.47 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko' (3 of 25): (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-k7/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.10-1-k7/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.10-1-k7. |
| 14:05.47 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, well, my is unofficial i guess. how can i check which repo it gains its stuff ? |
| 14:05.51 | Zta | asuffield, oh please |
| 14:06.04 | elephant | Hi all |
| 14:06.05 | yoni | ftp:// of course |
| 14:06.08 | Virtual | I started my computer and grub didn`t load anymore... Grub error 22 |
| 14:06.10 | Virtual | what can I do ? |
| 14:06.13 | imahcine | oh lol. so 2.6.10 doesnt support i386 drm? |
| 14:06.13 | imahcine | ;] |
| 14:06.18 | elephant | How to acciociate a IP with a hostname ? |
| 14:06.22 | biggi_mat | karsten weel. i did route. the thing that bothers me is that evertything is everything the same. shouldn't be there some priority (i have three lan cards in server. one is for external connection and two are for local. one is not in use at the time though).so is it ok that's everything is the same? |
| 14:06.26 | biggi_mat | well * |
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| 14:06.28 | elephant | Like "whois IP" |
| 14:06.32 | karsten | !tell elephant about bind |
| 14:06.38 | imahcine | elephant, use ductape. |
| 14:06.46 | karsten | biggi_mat: New kernel? |
| 14:06.48 | asuffield | grargh. 'whois' does not have anything to do with that |
| 14:06.50 | elephant | Thanx all |
| 14:06.55 | tub | elephant: ping -a ip.add.res.res |
| 14:06.55 | biggi_mat | karsten yep. compiled yesterday |
| 14:07.00 | imahcine | Bye all |
| 14:07.10 | karsten | biggi_mat: 'dmesg' will tell you which NICs are assigned which device. |
| 14:07.11 | imahcine | Cheers all. all seems well popular lately. |
| 14:07.17 | karsten | biggi_mat: There's your problem. Swap internal NICs. |
| 14:07.30 | imahcine | anywho. hexxeh|work would you mind a pm since its pretty messy in my taste over here? |
| 14:07.42 | karsten | biggi_mat: ...connect to the other. You should find that your modules are loading in different order and have changed spec. |
| 14:07.44 | ep | imahcine, I don't have /etc/ntpdate.conf No big deal, I'm just trying to figure out how to run ntpdate manually. Where are the ntp servers wanted on the CLI? |
| 14:08.03 | imahcine | ep, well. right behind. |
| 14:08.08 | imahcine | man ntpdate |
| 14:08.09 | elephant | tub: well "-a" option doesnt exist |
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| 14:08.20 | hexxeh|work | imahcine, i'm not sure what there is to discuss, i've told you how it is at my end, and i can't advise outide my zone of competance |
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| 14:08.51 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, well you seem more competent than i am ;] thought you perhaphs own a x386 system as well. |
| 14:09.03 | imahcine | thats okay tho. i will search. i guess. |
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| 14:09.24 | Virtual | I started my computer and grub didn`t load anymore... Grub error 22, I booted with my boot disk and I`m in linux now but how can I fix that error ? |
| 14:09.45 | biggi_mat | karsten sorry but i don't understand what do you want me to do now. could you explain please? |
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| 14:10.00 | karsten | !tell Virtual about repeat |
| 14:10.04 | zinx | Virtual: 22 : No such partition |
| 14:10.15 | zinx | Virtual: info grub for more information. |
| 14:10.16 | hexxeh|work | imahcine, my i386 system uses nvidia. |
| 14:10.23 | karsten | biggi_mat: Plug your ethernet cable into the *other* NIC on your server. |
| 14:10.30 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, all is well. |
| 14:10.45 | karsten | biggi_mat: Note that link-light is HW, not SW. If you plug in NIC, regardless of it being configured, you'll get a link light. |
| 14:10.57 | karsten | biggi_mat: Your kernel update shuffled your NICs around on your server. |
| 14:11.06 | tam | karsten: he made a mistake and started again. leave him alone to ask his question |
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| 14:11.15 | imahcine | OhMyAchinLap, btw. how can i see dpkg -l with a longer output? or perhaphs there is something like *bsd /var/db/pkg where i can just list stuff as files? |
| 14:11.15 | Quartop | when i instaled X i got a configuration screen... how do i get back there? |
| 14:11.27 | imahcine | wtf. stupid completion. |
| 14:11.29 | karsten | tam: OK. |
| 14:12.07 | biggi_mat | karsten so? what now? what to do that this thign would work ? |
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| 14:12.32 | hexxeh|work | !drxx Quartop |
| 14:12.32 | dpkg | Quartop: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 14:12.40 | karsten | biggi_mat: Test your connection. |
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| 14:12.46 | son | hi |
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| 14:12.53 | biggi_mat | karsten how? |
| 14:13.03 | biggi_mat | *little bit lost at the time* |
| 14:13.07 | zinx | karsten: i don't think it's worth it :/ |
| 14:13.11 | karsten | biggi_mat: ping? |
| 14:13.20 | karsten | zinx: ?? |
| 14:13.23 | brayra | imahcine: COLUMNS=132 dpkg -l |
| 14:13.27 | ep | imahcine, This is a desktop system and i'm new. I read the man page first. It doesn't say anything about publid ntp servers. I'm guessing this is what i need. |
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| 14:13.40 | biggi_mat | karsten it doesn't work |
| 14:13.43 | vi4m | Hello. Does anybody know how to force my master dns server transfer zone files to slave-dns? |
| 14:13.54 | karsten | biggi_mat: OK. |
| 14:13.55 | imahcine | ep, just install it, run it, and it should work out of the box with a default config. |
| 14:13.55 | ep | *public ntp server(s) |
| 14:13.57 | biggi_mat | karsten it can't work. i did no changes. i only plugged in the other card. |
| 14:14.00 | Luser | Hello. I'm looking for mldonkey. I can find plugins for it, but I can't find the program itself. |
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| 14:14.04 | biggi_mat | that's just my guessing |
| 14:14.04 | imahcine | just type 'ntpdate' and it will reach out to the default config. |
| 14:14.06 | darxeth | karsten: theres a - share modes = no - under [netlogon] plus writable = no ; under "Share Definitions" - [home] browseable = yes ; create mask = 0700. (i changed the browseable=no to yes) but still cant find any sharing. what do you think? |
| 14:14.14 | imahcine | i take it youre not the experimenting kind. |
| 14:14.14 | imahcine | ;] |
| 14:14.44 | karsten | biggi_mat: Your NIC association to device (eth0, eth1, eth2, etc.) is determined by the order in which modules are loaded. |
| 14:14.48 | son | does anyone know what a kernel is? |
| 14:14.57 | greycat | imahcine: no. it will give you an error. |
| 14:15.00 | karsten | biggi_mat: ...if you change the module load order, you change the NIC association. It's a minor frustration. |
| 14:15.01 | greycat | SYNOPSIS |
| 14:15.02 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.02 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.20 | imahcine | i wont try now since gaim crashes on date/time change |
| 14:15.24 | karsten | biggi_mat: Make sure you've got the right NIC where you think it should be. Suggest you play with your HW and leave a 'ping' running for a bit. |
| 14:15.33 | biggi_mat | karsten this two NICs are using the same module coz they are the same version from the same company or whatever it is. |
| 14:15.34 | imahcine | but im pretty surfe it wont. anyway i only ran it on *bsd. so i dont know. |
| 14:15.37 | son | *flood |
| 14:15.40 | imahcine | maybe debian;s ntpdate is different. |
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| 14:15.44 | karsten | darxeth: I think you should ask channel. |
| 14:15.47 | son | #flood |
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| 14:15.58 | karsten | biggi_mat: See above. I've got stuff to do, ask channel, not me. |
| 14:16.11 | ep | I already installed it (ntpdate). It ran and adjusted my clock (it was borked by over an hour). As a test, I run it a second time with no arguments. |
| 14:16.19 | biggi_mat | karsten oh thanks for your help |
| 14:16.24 | son | does anyone know what a kernel is? I really need to know |
| 14:16.31 | xelon | hi, I installed sarge. But i cant mount my cdrw and dvdrw drives |
| 14:16.36 | ep | #ntpdate 6 Apr 09:14:41 ntpdate[4648]: no servers can be used, exiting |
| 14:16.38 | xelon | what can i do? |
| 14:16.43 | jharrisonwk | kernel? |
| 14:16.53 | son | yeah |
| 14:16.57 | jharrisonwk | !kernel |
| 14:16.58 | son | what is a kernel? |
| 14:16.59 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.11.6, prepatch: 2.6.12-rc2, 2.4: 2.4.30, snapshot: 2.4.30-bk1, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac6, -mm patch: 2.6.12-rc2-mm1 |
| 14:17.00 | xelon | 2.6.8 |
| 14:17.02 | greycat | ep: what server did you tell it to use? |
| 14:17.09 | son | ........ |
| 14:17.09 | son | ? |
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| 14:17.13 | greycat | son: the part of the operating system that manages everything |
| 14:17.17 | ep | that was my original question :-) |
| 14:17.19 | son | oh thankyou |
| 14:17.37 | darxeth | wben i type: kate /etc/samba/smb.conf, theres a - share modes = no - under [netlogon] plus writable = no ; under "Share Definitions" - [home] browseable = yes ; create mask = 0700. (i changed the browseable=no to yes) but still cant find any sharing. any suggestions? |
| 14:17.41 | ep | are there public ntp servers -- where do i get me |
| 14:17.44 | ep | em |
| 14:17.50 | jharrisonwk | gentto is porting to the nt kernel |
| 14:17.57 | jharrisonwk | gentoo rather |
| 14:18.05 | hexxeh|work | jharrisonwk, when was that announced exactly? |
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| 14:18.29 | sepski | ep: pool.ntp.org and it's the defualt in debian ntp packages iirc |
| 14:18.32 | hexxeh|work | jharrisonwk, friday, if memory serves |
| 14:18.45 | clojster | I'm getting really angry on those fonts... now they're gone for new TORSMO |
| 14:18.47 | greycat | sepski: only in sarge... |
| 14:19.05 | sepski | greycat, ahh ic |
| 14:19.18 | xelon | when i mount my cdrom drive by "mount /media/cdrom/ ", there is an error "mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist". what can i do? |
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| 14:19.33 | Di``` | anybody have any info about raid on the sarge install? |
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| 14:20.23 | greycat | could we PLEASE form a pact to ban the use of the word "raid" to describe "a disk controller with 2 or more SATA disks on it, which your operating system may be able to treat as a single disk, but which is for all practical purposes JUST TWO SEPARATE DISKS"? |
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| 14:20.52 | clojster | how can I update newly installed programs (which affects services) without rebooting? (will switching init to 1 and back do the trick?) |
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| 14:21.35 | hexxeh|work | clojster, erm... if you apt-get upgrade, a service is restarted automatically. |
| 14:22.06 | karsten | greycat: JBOD. |
| 14:22.15 | hexxeh|work | greycat, even if it's just mdadm'd software, two disks in software raid1 is still an array of inexpensive disks, with redundancy... |
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| 14:23.06 | hexxeh|work | a very small array, but still. it doesn't need to be 14 sata disks on a scai-attached chassis to be a redundant array of inexpensive disks |
| 14:23.12 | greycat | hexxeh|work: so the question is really "how can I install sarge in such a way that my two {IDE,SATA} disks can become a software RAID 1 mirror"? |
| 14:23.18 | greycat | (no, I don't know the answer) |
| 14:23.23 | hexxeh|work | raid0 should be purged, though |
| 14:23.26 | clojster | hexxeh|work: good... and what about for example running program like bash? |
| 14:23.41 | hexxeh|work | greycat, i was under the impression that the sarge rc3 installer did that for you relatively painlessly |
| 14:23.58 | hexxeh|work | clojster, log out, log in |
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| 14:24.09 | biggi_mat | what is the route for DSL connections? (i just know for IPv6 but what should i put in route -A inet ...?) |
| 14:24.16 | hexxeh|work | clojster, i assure you, in debian land, you don't reboot after every package upgrade |
| 14:24.16 | xelon | I look the instructions in /msg dpkg cdrom, but i can't find any solution. in woody i can do it, but i can't find in sarge!! |
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| 14:25.53 | clojster | hexxeh|work: yep, I don't reboot after package upgrade. I just didn't know that services are updated automatically... |
| 14:26.02 | jharrisonwk | hexxeh|work: it was a joke |
| 14:26.19 | greycat | xelon: grep cdrom /etc/fstab |
| 14:26.49 | xelon | /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 14:26.50 | xelon | /dev/hdc /media/cdrom1 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 14:27.08 | clojster | hexxeh|work: and what if I want to restart inetd? |
| 14:27.25 | dafen | -*-sans-*-*-*.... this kinda fonts is invalid, what package I need to make it valid? |
| 14:27.40 | jharrisonwk | hexxeh|work: http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/ |
| 14:27.48 | dafen | and also -*-monospace-*-...... is also invalid |
| 14:27.52 | greycat | xelon: try "mount /media/cdrom" for starters, and if that fails, try "mount /media/cdrom0" or "mount /media/cdrom1". As root. |
| 14:28.04 | greycat | xelon: if it works as root, then try it as a user. |
| 14:28.23 | hexxeh|work | jharrisonwk, a joke announced on april fools' day? whatever next |
| 14:28.53 | xelon | greycat, both root and user gives an error :"mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist" |
| 14:29.08 | jharrisonwk | hexxeh|work: yeah |
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| 14:29.17 | dafen | how to make -*-sans-medium....available? what package I need? |
| 14:29.36 | dafen | now icewm just say -*-sans-* are invalid fonts |
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| 14:30.20 | imahcine | uhm, where can i set the default kernel hz in debian? |
| 14:30.21 | greycat | xelon: dmesg | grep CD |
| 14:30.28 | greycat | imahcine: build a custom kernel. |
| 14:30.33 | greycat | imahcine: /msg dpkg kp |
| 14:30.37 | imahcine | greycat, i dont want to. |
| 14:30.44 | xelon | greycat, output is nothing |
| 14:30.45 | imahcine | is it not possible to use debian kernel? |
| 14:30.45 | greycat | imahcine: then you can't change the kernel configuration. |
| 14:30.49 | imahcine | lol. |
| 14:30.52 | imahcine | foolish linux. |
| 14:30.58 | greycat | imahcine: yes, it's possible. use it. just don't expect to go fucking around with its brains. |
| 14:31.01 | imahcine | that kind o f sucks. but okay :] |
| 14:31.36 | imahcine | well yea. i come from *bsd. i can use /boot/loader.conf i thought linux being so versatile and slick can do something similar ;p |
| 14:31.37 | greycat | xelon: well, that's going to make it rather hard for a CD-ROM to work, if your kernel isn't seeing them. |
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| 14:31.41 | hexxeh|work | well you can change very minor things using sysfs |
| 14:31.56 | imahcine | hexxeh|work, yea, but not really the hz can i. its not very minor ;] |
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| 14:32.01 | imahcine | i use sysctl . |
| 14:32.03 | bugged | hello everyone |
| 14:32.06 | greycat | imahcine: linux has kernel boot parameters, but I don't believe HZ is one of them. I'm almost sure it's a compile-time option. |
| 14:32.14 | greycat | imahcine: you could ask a linux kernel hacker channel. |
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| 14:32.19 | imahcine | greycat, unfortunate :] |
| 14:32.28 | imahcine | greycat, such as? |
| 14:32.52 | xelon | greycat, it's an kernel image that i download with apt-get. do i have to compile myself? |
| 14:32.56 | bugged | anyone knows any good "howto" for seting up a good server» |
| 14:32.56 | bugged | ? |
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| 14:33.05 | bugged | like mail server file server etc.. |
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| 14:33.33 | hanson | cat /etc/fstab |
| 14:33.50 | bsims | how big a pain in my arse is adjusting Foomatic PPDs to the correct paper size? |
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| 14:34.21 | xelon | hanson : is it to me? |
| 14:34.45 | hanson | xelon: sorry I typed in the wrong window, oops ! |
| 14:34.50 | Arafangion | bsims, There's a script to do it for you. |
| 14:34.51 | greycat | bugged: 1) install debian, 2) configure it, 3) there is no 3 |
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| 14:35.03 | Arafangion | bsims, But I just wish I could figure out what it was called, but I do know that one exists. |
| 14:35.11 | imahcine | ook. brb. |
| 14:35.17 | Arafangion | I've used it before. |
| 14:35.29 | bugged | greycat: need information on second procidure |
| 14:35.34 | bugged | :) |
| 14:35.35 | bsims | Arafangion: I was wanting to do this the "proper" way... IE the script named adjustmargin isn't debianized |
| 14:35.36 | xelon | greycat, do i have to compile a kernel myself? |
| 14:35.49 | Arafangion | bsims, It's just a script. |
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| 14:36.23 | greycat | xelon: you have to figure out why your kernel is not detecting any CD-ROM devices. |
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| 14:36.34 | greycat | xelon: if it's a standard debian kernel, then no, it should not need to be replaced |
| 14:36.57 | bsims | Bah if all else I will simply edit the ppd manually <g>, linuxprinting.org says ljet4 is prefered but honestly; printing testpages I can't tell the difference between ljet4 and the cups laserjet driver |
| 14:37.27 | bugged | greycat: can't help me? |
| 14:37.28 | xelon | greycat, it is a standart debian kernel |
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| 14:37.51 | xelon | greycat, how can i figure out it? |
| 14:38.45 | jharrisonwk | anyone attempted to install sarge on a sparc v1XX? |
| 14:38.50 | Lorvija | what was the url to newest netinstaller? |
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| 14:39.05 | jharrisonwk | www.debian.org/debian-installer |
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| 14:39.15 | pibe | hola |
| 14:39.18 | greycat | xelon: does the BIOS see the drive? which kernel is it? try reading 'dmesg' from top to bottom and see if it gives any useful hints? |
| 14:39.18 | Lorvija | thanks jharrisonwk |
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| 14:39.38 | imahcine | okay. |
| 14:39.42 | imahcine | 2.6.11 on board. |
| 14:39.52 | xelon | BIOS sees it, kernel is 2.6.8, ok i am going to read it |
| 14:40.13 | xelon | greycat, thanks again. |
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| 14:43.41 | hanson | what decides the name name after @ in the command prompt ? <username>@<computername>, or something like that ? where do I set the <computername>? |
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| 14:44.33 | Lorvija | what was the url to newest netinstaller? (: the link jkharrison gave a bit earlier didnt work |
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| 14:45.02 | stew | !d-i |
| 14:45.03 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, d-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
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| 14:45.05 | hexxeh|work | !d-i Lorvija |
| 14:45.06 | dpkg | Lorvija, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 14:45.15 | Lorvija | thankyou hexxeh|work |
| 14:45.22 | Lorvija | and stealth (: |
| 14:45.25 | Lorvija | stew* |
| 14:46.38 | nashirak | Hey guys does anyone know if the debian package of SNORT comes with flexresp compiled in. I have tried writing rules with "resp" and "react" and it doesn't know what either of those keywords are, so I am assuming no Flexresp. Am I missing another package or am I simply going to have to compile it myself? |
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| 14:47.18 | pibe | hola hay alguien de españa |
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| 14:47.29 | greycat | !es |
| 14:47.29 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:47.31 | trini | Hello all |
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| 14:48.09 | trini | does anyone know how to sync a blackberry with evolution in linux? |
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| 14:49.16 | tzafrir | Does the default kernel from debian have smp support? Or is it only in the {686,k7}-smp? |
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| 14:49.23 | greycat | tzafrir: what do you think. |
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| 14:49.38 | SlayerXP | greycat: bad assumption there. |
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| 14:49.53 | tzafrir | Will the installer try to install an smp kernel on an smp system? |
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| 14:50.01 | greycat | tzafrir: no |
| 14:50.09 | crackbaby | anyone handy with kernel compiling? I have a silly set extraversion question |
| 14:50.15 | greycat | or at least, rc2 and earlier don't. I haven't tried rc3. |
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| 14:50.46 | tzafrir | so no surprises here :-) |
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| 14:51.05 | crackbaby | made a new 2.6.11 deb that worked great, but want to make a second with fewer modules. won't build with set extravsersion set |
| 14:51.06 | hexxeh|work | the net inst cds don't have a wide kernel choice. sarge cd1 has full kernel choice on it, and will ask you to pick which kernel to install (including a smp kernel) |
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| 14:51.52 | greycat | hexxeh|work: oh, people actually *use* full-CD sarge images which are going to become obsolete? why? |
| 14:51.57 | Quartop | "apt-cache search xfce" doesnt return anything... also cant install from apt-get but the package is listed on debian.org. whats wrong? |
| 14:52.24 | asuffield | greycat: more bandwidth than sense |
| 14:52.30 | hexxeh|work | Quartop, your apt configuration is buggered? |
| 14:52.35 | hexxeh|work | !info xfce4 sarge |
| 14:52.37 | forkqueue | greycat: The CD might become obsolete, but jidigo will update it for them nicely.. |
| 14:52.40 | dpkg | xfce4: (Installs XFce4 core and scripts to set it up), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.0.5-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 17 kB |
| 14:52.54 | asuffield | forkqueue: that doesn't work very well |
| 14:52.55 | hexxeh|work | that versio number's innacurate, it has 4.0.6 |
| 14:52.57 | hexxeh|work | nevermind eh |
| 14:53.04 | Quartop | asuffield: no... i think its correct. i've installed stuff with no problems till now |
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| 14:53.12 | forkqueue | asuffield: Really? |
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| 14:53.19 | greycat | Package: xfce4 |
| 14:53.21 | greycat | Version: 4.0.5-1 |
| 14:53.21 | forkqueue | asuffield: To be honest I actually only use netinst isos myself :) |
| 14:53.34 | hexxeh|work | !info xfwm4 sarge |
| 14:53.39 | dpkg | xfwm4: (window manager of the XFce project), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.0.6-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 511 kB, Installed size: 1620 kB |
| 14:53.45 | hexxeh|work | how very dirty |
| 14:53.54 | zodiaq | hey, i installed a new 2.6.11(from source) and now my usbmouse is fucked up... can only go up and down in a very weird way. anyone have any clues? |
| 14:54.02 | clojster | anyone having this problem?: I can't display the contents of zip archive in MC... it only shows empty folder... |
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| 14:54.05 | nashirak | Hey guys does anyone know if the debian package of SNORT comes with flexresp compiled in. I have tried writing rules with "resp" and "react" and it doesn't know what either of those keywords are, so I am assuming no Flexresp. Am I missing another package or am I simply going to have to compile it myself? |
| 14:54.06 | asuffield | forkqueue: later revisions of the image will bear very little resemblance to earlier ones. a one-byte offset will mean that most of the rest of the image is now different, so has to be replaced in entirity |
| 14:54.20 | greycat | clojster: apt-get install unzip; unzip -v foo.zip |
| 14:54.39 | clojster | greycat: I have got unzip installed |
| 14:54.47 | forkqueue | asuffield: I thought jigdo worked based on a per-package basis rather than looking at the binary image? |
| 14:55.07 | asuffield | forkqueue: sure, but that's no help when all you've got to feed it is a CD image |
| 14:55.24 | forkqueue | asuffield: It is if you mount the CD image :) |
| 14:55.40 | asuffield | it'll still have to replace every package which has changed. that's likely to be most of them |
| 14:55.58 | stew | nashirak: apt-get source snort will download the source it was compiled from and create a snort-[version] directory, and snort-[version]/debian/rules will contain the options it was compiled with. you can easily change them and rebuild the .deb if you need to |
| 14:56.05 | trini | does anyone know how to sync a blackberry with evolution in linux? |
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| 14:56.26 | nashirak | stew: thx |
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| 14:57.26 | manchot | I found under / two file links, one is vmlinuz, and the other is initrd.img, why these links? |
| 14:57.51 | manchot | they all point to /boot/* but why debian put system links of these files under / ? |
| 14:58.07 | clojster | greycat: unzip -v works allright |
| 14:58.16 | yalu | manchot: to make kernel updates easier |
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| 14:58.21 | yalu | dunno about initrd stuff though |
| 14:58.38 | clojster | but why can't I view contents of zips in Midnight Commander? |
| 14:58.50 | manchot | yalu: I mean they are under / (root dir), |
| 14:58.52 | clojster | It worked allright some time ago |
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| 14:59.57 | dexter_ | Mention a program like torsmo i can get |
| 15:00.18 | yalu | manchot: yes. if you install a new kernel, /vmlinuz.old will point to the file /vmlinuz previously pointed to and /vmlinuz will point to the new kernel |
| 15:00.27 | crackbaby | made a new 2.6.11 deb that worked great, but want to make a second with fewer modules. won't build with set extravsersion set |
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| 15:00.36 | crackbaby | any ideas? |
| 15:00.45 | yalu | so you don't have to change the configuration of your boot loader when you install a new kernel using dpkg/apt-get |
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| 15:01.21 | clojster | so another question: where the Midnight Commander takes info about what command to use after hitting enter on file from? |
| 15:03.05 | manchot | yalu: when I delete the two links the system can't boot |
| 15:03.21 | Virtual | 22 : "Must load Multiboot kernel before modules" |
| 15:03.21 | Virtual | [18:01] <Virtual-> This error is returned if the module load command is used before loading a Multiboot kernel. It only makes sense in this case anyway, as GRUB has no idea how to communicate the presence of location of such modules to a non-Multiboot-aware kernel. |
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| 15:03.42 | Virtual | anybody know how can I fix that ? is a grub error |
| 15:03.43 | Rock0r | hi all |
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| 15:05.04 | Rock0r | how can i print in bash a *.pdf on a in the network machine printer |
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| 15:05.49 | tarzeau | Rock0r: using lpr ? |
| 15:06.09 | tarzeau | clojster: from its configuration |
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| 15:06.24 | Rock0r | the machine in the network runs with cups ?!? lpr is installed on the other machine... |
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| 15:06.48 | tarzeau | clojster: look at /etc/mc/ |
| 15:06.50 | nSe | i think i'm having several problems while running xine... |
| 15:07.01 | tarzeau | nSe: bugs.debian.org/xine-pkg |
| 15:07.16 | ralf | hi |
| 15:07.47 | clojster | tarzeau: thanks |
| 15:07.58 | manchot | this is wierd, I have a tty8 which I can login in text mode. |
| 15:08.08 | manchot | I thougt there is only 6 ttys |
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| 15:08.29 | LoRez | manchot: there are as many as /etc/inittab has set up. |
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| 15:08.32 | tarzeau | manchot: it can be configured |
| 15:08.36 | tarzeau | manchot: see /etc/inittab |
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| 15:09.11 | nSe | tarzeau: that's not up to bugs really. i'm a new linux user, my xine-check give me several driver and plugins and stuff that's is not installed properly to run xine as it should run. so i'm in a trouble, no way to understand all that an dinstall them all in a easy way... what can i do!? |
| 15:09.14 | tarzeau | manchot: some systems only have one -- that's where you start to love gnu screen |
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| 15:09.40 | tarzeau | nSe: you installed the debian packages ? sid, testing, stable? or from source? |
| 15:09.41 | LordFrith | You don't need to have your tty's limited to love screen. |
| 15:09.54 | Rock0r | how can i print manpages ? |
| 15:09.58 | manchot | ok. but seems when I login to tty8, it does not source /etc/profile |
| 15:10.01 | jeanmi_ | is there a text-based tool I can use to scan (from my scanner ?) |
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| 15:10.08 | manchot | while other tty logins source it. |
| 15:10.18 | ralf | why apache2 redirects / to /apache2-defaults?? |
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| 15:10.28 | nSe | tarzeau: sarge rc3 net-inst |
| 15:10.59 | keboerg | jeanmi_: sane |
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| 15:11.49 | diesel | I am running stable with apache and ssh and was looking at all programs that have the sticky bit set. Is it worthwhile to turn off all root sticky bits, or is this overkill? |
| 15:12.16 | tarzeau | Rock0r: send them to the printer, plain |
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| 15:12.56 | Rock0r | o_O ? man lp > /dev/usb/lp0 ? |
| 15:13.00 | yalu | manchot: maybe if you use grub; if you use lilo, lilo just refuses to reinstall the mbr when you run it |
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| 15:14.20 | nSe | tarzeau: any idea? |
| 15:14.53 | nSe | tarzeau: any idea? |
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| 15:15.33 | nSe | tarzeau: hold you answer, if there is... i'll be back |
| 15:15.46 | manchot | yalu: yes, I use yalu. I didn't see other distros have those links under / |
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| 15:17.25 | Quartop | its possible to update from stable to unstable? i guess its better to install from scratch no? |
| 15:17.34 | yalu | you use me? o_O |
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| 15:17.42 | synic | Quartop: it sure is |
| 15:17.49 | freaky_home | can someone help me with grub? |
| 15:17.51 | dawg | quartop, that's how it's usually done |
| 15:17.53 | stew | Quartop: don't run unstable, run testing, /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 15:18.21 | Quartop | well i wanted to run xfce... but i saw how dated the stable version is :S |
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| 15:18.27 | keboerg | freaky_home: just ask |
| 15:18.39 | keboerg | Quartop: try sarge |
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| 15:18.59 | marco__ | hello |
| 15:19.20 | jeanmi_ | I want to print a jpeg image that I'd like to fit in an A4 format ? what tool should I use for that ? |
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| 15:19.39 | diegows | hello |
| 15:19.41 | yalu | kuickshow? |
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| 15:20.05 | diegows | where is the public key to verify Release.gpg?? |
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| 15:21.56 | keboerg | how to rescue a windows install broken by grub? |
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| 15:22.48 | synic | dpkg: hello? |
| 15:22.49 | dpkg | Hi, synic! |
| 15:22.52 | synic | bleh... |
| 15:22.58 | synic | not answering messages... |
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| 15:25.26 | ArchitectSinan | hi all |
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| 15:26.59 | andreas_ | hi! I have to install Linux via netboot onto a ramdisk. I can't find anything usefull in google. |
| 15:27.21 | karsten | OT: NY Times pic shows what appears very much to be a Linux Flury xscreensaver: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2005/04/05/arts/06game1.html |
| 15:27.42 | tarzeau | andreas_: useful, only one l |
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| 15:27.45 | cahoot | jeanmi_: convert it to pdf? |
| 15:28.16 | tarzeau | andreas_: is the linux you want to install onto a ramdisk debian, or something else? |
| 15:28.18 | zulkifar | Hi. cdparanoia question. I use it for converting all my CDDA collection into falc/mp3. Obviously discs are reading quickly (about 10-15 minutes) but somtimes errors lead to increasing overall reading time. What worries me - one disc had been reading for 11 hours! Is it normal situation? As it follows from cdparanoia man --never-skip option by default equals 20 times to retry before skip (V), but it looks like this value is actually 20000! Or my hardware is |
| 15:28.21 | pshaggy | is there a way to get 'make' to display a list of valid targets? |
| 15:28.39 | yalu | karsten: your attention is actually drawn to that screensaver? :-) |
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| 15:29.44 | karsten | pshaggy: cat Makefile ;-) |
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| 15:29.44 | yalu | zulkifar: try disabling paranoia |
| 15:29.44 | zulkifar | I use no SCSI emulation since my kernel is 2.6.x |
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| 15:29.44 | karsten | yalu: Actually, my attention was drawn to the scoop-neck top to the left of the screensaver. |
| 15:29.45 | karsten | yalu: ...then I noticed the screensaver. |
| 15:29.45 | andreas_ | tarzeau: No. I want to configure a kernel that is delivered via tftp. This should boot the linux-box. |
| 15:29.45 | catskul | I just got an email from keyspan saying that they want to discuss licensing issues with the keyspan stuff, and they ask for which mailing list they should use |
| 15:29.48 | catskul | (with regards to the debian community) |
| 15:29.57 | yalu | sounds better allready ;-) |
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| 15:30.07 | catskul | anyone know which one I should point them towards ? |
| 15:30.08 | tarzeau | andreas_: without local harddisks installed? |
| 15:30.14 | ArchitectSinan | hi all |
| 15:30.14 | yalu | debian-legal? |
| 15:30.16 | andreas_ | tarzeau: Yes - Without |
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| 15:30.28 | tarzeau | andreas_: to save size, weight or noise? |
| 15:30.58 | andreas_ | tarzeau: To do Firmware-updates on ppc without touching the hdd |
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| 15:31.17 | tarzeau | andreas_: maybe they can help you in #debianppc ? |
| 15:31.52 | zulkifar | yalu: But in this case errors will not be corrected at all. I have pretty old CDs and almost every track has a number of '+'s and '!'s. |
| 15:31.52 | tarzeau | andreas_: i know on solaris you can do firmware updates on sparc (without os, without harddisk) |
| 15:31.52 | andreas_ | tarzeau: I will ask the people there - thx. |
| 15:31.55 | yalu | zulkifar: in that case, you will have to wait... |
| 15:31.55 | tarzeau | andreas_: good luck |
| 15:32.05 | andreas_ | tarzeau: thx. I need it. |
| 15:32.08 | tarzeau | andreas_: what ppc machines are that , where you want to upgrade the "firmware"? |
| 15:32.28 | zulkifar | yalu: so, 11 hours for disc and skip ('V') after that is ok and happens not only for me? :) |
| 15:32.30 | andreas_ | tarzeau: Sorry - can't tell u that. |
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| 15:32.43 | tarzeau | andreas_: apple g3? g4? something different? |
| 15:32.50 | tarzeau | andreas_: must be top secret ibm ppc stuff ... |
| 15:32.51 | stew | catskul: debian-legal, but have them read http://wiki.debian.net/?DFSGLicenses first |
| 15:32.56 | andreas_ | tarzeau: ;) |
| 15:32.57 | yalu | zulkifar: I would not know. maybe you can ask on cdparanoia's mailing list |
| 15:33.16 | zulkifar | yalu: yes, good idea. thnx |
| 15:33.30 | tarzeau | andreas_: when do we get the new storage types that will send harddisks to hell? |
| 15:33.49 | jethroo | !kill AIX and IBM |
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| 15:34.52 | crackbaby | i made a new 2.6.11 deb that worked great, but want to make a second with fewer modules. won't build with set extravsersion set |
| 15:35.03 | crackbaby | it get confused about versions and exits |
| 15:35.12 | ArchitectSinan | My wuftp accepts the incoming ftp request in approx 5 min. or so ? I mean the initial ftp connection. After this everything's normal. And i found an answer to this problem in a mailing list archive (http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/mail-archive/wu-ftpd/1999/Oct/index.html#168). They're telling that change the "#define USE_RFC931 " line in config.h to "#undef USE_RFC931". I think the config.h they're mention is a source header fi |
| 15:35.35 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: exactly |
| 15:35.36 | dvs | crackbaby: You want the --append-to-version option |
| 15:35.45 | aardvark | !wuftpd |
| 15:35.49 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: try apt-get source wuftpd and then change it in the source, run debuild |
| 15:35.50 | ArchitectSinan | !wuftpd |
| 15:35.51 | ArchitectSinan | ? |
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| 15:35.58 | dvs | crackbaby: and do an make-kpkg clean first |
| 15:36.00 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: but really don't use wufptd, try proftpd for example |
| 15:36.18 | aardvark | isn't wuftp about the most exploitable thing out there? |
| 15:36.23 | tarzeau | aardvark: yes |
| 15:36.25 | jethroo | indeed |
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| 15:36.36 | Nurbs | aakkonen: no, that's PHP :o) |
| 15:36.36 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: koetu, kullanma wuftpdyi! |
| 15:36.45 | aardvark | tarzeau: that would explain the many haxored boxen on ArchitectSinan's ISP (ttnet.tr) |
| 15:36.48 | karsten | aardvark: ftp w/ auth is a pretty poor idea in any event. |
| 15:36.49 | jethroo | remote root shell provider since at least a decade |
| 15:36.59 | tarzeau | aardvark: ttnet.tr is a joke |
| 15:37.02 | ArchitectSinan | aardvark: what ? |
| 15:37.03 | karsten | aardvark: ...and you can always run tftp if you want true foolishness. |
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| 15:37.05 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: you ever had a problem with debian sarge cd install where the cdrom cannot be mounted? |
| 15:37.18 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yes, the cd-rom drive was defective |
| 15:37.37 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: but on real computers, you netboot and netinstall (no media needed) |
| 15:37.37 | aardvark | ArchitectSinan: it would be a better place for all of us if your ISP disappeared off the face of this earth. |
| 15:37.38 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: doubt that is it because woody installs fine with this same cdrom |
| 15:37.39 | jethroo | karsten: implementing insecure protocols is not the same as running vulnerable network services |
| 15:37.39 | ArchitectSinan | tarzeaut: Ok. i won't use wu-ftpd then. But what if i experience this IDENT, AUTH problem in proftpd also ? |
| 15:37.46 | crackbaby | dvs: make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version --revision=2:anubis.1.0 kernel_image modules_image ?? |
| 15:37.48 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: the media or the drive? |
| 15:37.57 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: you won't |
| 15:37.59 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: ? |
| 15:38.02 | dvs | crackbaby: man make-kpkg |
| 15:38.09 | karsten | jethroo: Strewth. |
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| 15:38.16 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: the drive can mount anything else? |
| 15:38.18 | crackbaby | dvs: thx |
| 15:38.22 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: yes |
| 15:38.27 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: woody cd works fine |
| 15:38.34 | ArchitectSinan | aardvark: what can i do for this ? I'm not one of the "spambot idiots" in my ISP |
| 15:38.34 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: is it an i386 computer? |
| 15:38.42 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: cd-rw media? |
| 15:38.50 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: but the sarge cd the system will boot from it and then it comes to the detect cdrom task and it says cannot mount cdrom |
| 15:38.51 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: manufacturer of the cd-rom drive? |
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| 15:38.53 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: yes |
| 15:38.59 | stenass | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.00 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: cd-r media |
| 15:39.02 | tarzeau | md5sum was fine? |
| 15:39.07 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: the cdrom came in the v100 |
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| 15:39.17 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: im not sure the manufacturer of the drive |
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| 15:39.32 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: yes md5sum was fine |
| 15:39.41 | arhub | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.50 | ArchitectSinan | aardvark: why i need to face this spambot problems ? i just connected from this ISP. And i don't have any other alternative to connect ADSL in my country |
| 15:39.55 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: no idea then, try being nice to the machine |
| 15:39.59 | arhub | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:40.01 | ArchitectSinan | aardvark: i have to be .ttnet.net.tr |
| 15:40.23 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: what do you mean? I have always been nice to the machine |
| 15:40.24 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: like get the most beautiful secretary, make her sit on the machine. try the cd again |
| 15:40.36 | ArchitectSinan | aardvark: i didn't wanted to talk that much about the problem but you forced me yo. |
| 15:40.50 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: this machine probably likes goatsex.ce or whatever |
| 15:40.50 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: how's the weather near my favourite island, btw? |
| 15:40.52 | ArchitectSinan | aardvark: i wanted an excemption from an op |
| 15:40.58 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: sunny yet cool |
| 15:41.04 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: it was goatse.cx :) |
| 15:41.10 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: yeah thats it |
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| 15:41.22 | ArchitectSinan | tarzeau: thanks so much btw |
| 15:41.23 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: and the reason why it's gone: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/goatse.txt |
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| 15:41.31 | jeanmi_ | how can I print a .jpg file and make sure it will fit in 1 page ? |
| 15:41.39 | ArchitectSinan | i'll burry my wu-ftpd to the cemetery |
| 15:41.53 | ArchitectSinan | even i will use in local network |
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| 15:43.11 | cahoot | jeanmi_: convert -page A4+0+0 img.jpg img.pdf |
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| 15:43.41 | jan_ | -bash: child setpgid (3458 to 264): Operation not permitted |
| 15:43.42 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: oh well ;) |
| 15:43.43 | jethroo | !kill CIAIA |
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| 15:43.46 | jan_ | whats that? :/ |
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| 15:44.09 | tzafrir | jan_, I have run into this recently |
| 15:44.26 | tzafrir | I can't figure exactly why |
| 15:44.39 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: this damn sarge install bugs me. I dont see why it should not mount the cd |
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| 15:44.53 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yeah, it'd also piss me |
| 15:44.53 | tzafrir | basically bash can't set the group id for a subprocess. why? beats me |
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| 15:44.58 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: and there is no 2.6 either |
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| 15:45.06 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: wanna try to install gnustep live cd on it? |
| 15:45.07 | tzafrir | to replicate: |
| 15:45.15 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: the live cd has 2.6.10 or so |
| 15:45.21 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: will this give me debian on it? |
| 15:45.30 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yes, but sid |
| 15:45.41 | tzafrir | true | foo() {echo "foo"; } |
| 15:46.10 | crackbaby | dvs: thx again, looks like I just forgot to clean before build |
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| 15:46.23 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: sid can be rolled back to sarge right? |
| 15:46.33 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: no |
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| 15:46.42 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: sid can break toys like sarge plastic soldiers |
| 15:46.49 | jeanmi_ | cahoot I also need to reduce the size and translate a bit to the right to leave a left margin...... I know how to reduce with convert but I dont really see how I could translate so that a (white) left margin will appear |
| 15:47.08 | tarzeau | sid can also break the woody |
| 15:47.29 | tzafrir | what about potato? |
| 15:47.32 | dvs | crackbaby: np |
| 15:47.53 | tarzeau | sid can break potato too |
| 15:48.03 | jan_ | tzafrir: this is weird :) |
| 15:48.13 | jan_ | tzafrir: grsec ? |
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| 15:48.19 | tzafrir | not here |
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| 15:48.26 | raf256 | hi there, in grum menu.lst |
| 15:48.42 | raf256 | what is the code for first partition of first SATA driver (/dev/sda)? |
| 15:48.47 | tzafrir | Seems like a bash bug. Though the syntax I tried is kind of senseless |
| 15:48.54 | dvs | raf256: /dev/sda1 |
| 15:49.04 | raf256 | dvs: no, I ment like (hd1,0) |
| 15:49.04 | jethroo | there ain't much sid can't break |
| 15:49.19 | zinx | sid doesn't have an etch yet |
| 15:49.24 | raf256 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.30 | cahoot | jeanmi_: convert -page A4+50+0 img.jpg img.pdf leaves a left margin |
| 15:50.02 | zinx | raf256: see GRUB documentation |
| 15:50.16 | jeanmi_ | cahoot yes but it does 'eat' the right part of the document |
| 15:50.17 | raf256 | zinx: thanx Einstein |
| 15:50.31 | zinx | raf256: No problem, but the name's zinx. |
| 15:50.53 | jeanmi_ | cahoot this is why I am think of adding the reduced image to a white image byt aligning it to the right |
| 15:50.54 | raf256 | zinx: ok thanx again for shocking discovery dear sherlock |
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| 15:51.12 | pshaggy | ok, fresh install (from cd) and I can't figure out how to mount my cd. 'mount /media/cdrom' refers me to fstab which lists /media/cdrom0 (which is what /media/cdrom links to). |
| 15:51.27 | hdo781 | What does RTFA stand for? |
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| 15:51.50 | raf256 | hdo781: Realy Touching Fucking Annoucment? |
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| 15:51.58 | pshaggy | no cdrom0 exists in /media/ btw |
| 15:52.04 | raf256 | or perhaps read the fine answare? |
| 15:52.06 | raf256 | !rtfa |
| 15:52.19 | hdo781 | !rtfa |
| 15:52.24 | jethroo | !wtf rtfa |
| 15:52.24 | raf256 | !riaa |
| 15:52.24 | dpkg | riaa is probably PURE EVIL!!!, or Retards Inevitably Assume Authority, or be careful, they have big lawyers, or evil evil evil evil evil evil evil EVIL@@$&$&. Recording Industry Association of America, or a joke |
| 15:52.25 | dpkg | no binary found. |
| 15:52.31 | jethroo | dpkg: you suck |
| 15:52.31 | dpkg | Dream on, jethroo. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
| 15:52.40 | raf256 | @smite riaa |
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| 15:52.44 | chealer | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.50 | hdo781 | Why do you put an exclamation point in front of rtfa? |
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| 15:53.03 | jethroo | hdo781: to address the bot (dpkg) |
| 15:53.04 | raf256 | dpkg: thats some funny shit |
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| 15:53.28 | hdo781 | How do I activate the bot dpkg? |
| 15:53.41 | jethroo | hdo781: /msg dpkg help |
| 15:53.46 | raf256 | dpkg: fuck off |
| 15:53.49 | raf256 | lol :) |
| 15:54.29 | Vladi | hi, im trying to set up mailman on sarge after installing it i made its own domain name added the script alias and now whenever i do lists.domain.com/listinfo i just get a dump of the binary file can somone please help? |
| 15:54.43 | xam | !botabuse |
| 15:54.43 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 15:54.47 | mattmm | I jsut rebooted a server that had to clear 926 orphaned inodes on reboot...time for a kernel upgrade? |
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| 15:55.19 | hdo781 | Wow. That dpkg bot didn't explain anything. |
| 15:55.31 | raf256 | !smite hdo781 |
| 15:55.50 | pshaggy | !smiteme |
| 15:55.54 | pshaggy | !smite me |
| 15:55.56 | pshaggy | :) |
| 15:56.00 | jethroo | grow up kids |
| 15:56.06 | darkskiez | !britsmite me |
| 15:56.13 | pshaggy | lol |
| 15:56.19 | raf256 | gentoosmite me |
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| 15:56.42 | GunZ | hey guys i am installing debian from another distro, and i was wondering when running debootstrap can i use "/usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch ARCH sarge" in place of woody? or are the urls only for woody? |
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| 15:57.05 | jethroo | GunZ: man debootstrap ? |
| 15:57.13 | hdo781 | dpkg rtfa |
| 15:57.24 | dvs | hdo781: /msg dpkg rtfa |
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| 15:57.54 | GunZ | jethroo: erm.. i dont have the manual for debootstrap |
| 15:58.11 | GunZ | jethroo: asumming because i am on another distro? |
| 15:58.28 | jethroo | GunZ: you can read manpages on the web too |
| 15:58.33 | GunZ | oh yeah |
| 15:58.34 | GunZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.35 | GunZ | thx |
| 15:58.35 | jethroo | just google for man debootstrap |
| 15:58.39 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: any ideas? |
| 15:58.41 | ravenbird | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of herring, a little thermal paste, and a dozen sex-crazed oxen. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few hours! |
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| 15:59.39 | tuxyRochefort | hi. I'd like to know how much time does it take to crack a wep key with aircrack ? |
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| 15:59.55 | zinx | tuxyRochefort: 3 minutes, apparently. |
| 16:00.00 | hdo781 | How come mplayer is not part of the main testing repository? Mplayer is open source. |
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| 16:00.06 | zinx | tuxyRochefort: use WPA |
| 16:00.09 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: depends on the key length |
| 16:00.13 | tuxyRochefort | zinx, even with 128 bits key ? |
| 16:00.19 | raf256 | can I _easyly_ tell my computer A to share its /var/cache/apt/ with other computer requesting it (cia FTP HTTP or something)? |
| 16:00.22 | dvs | hdo781: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 16:00.23 | tuxyRochefort | jethro, with 128 bit key ? |
| 16:00.23 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: it's all a matter of collecting packets |
| 16:00.25 | zinx | tuxyRochefort: that was with 128bit, i believe |
| 16:00.34 | raf256 | ...what to set up on computer A, what to set up on computer B(client), both in same LAN |
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| 16:00.40 | xam | tuxyRochefort: depends on how much data is transferred and the wep key length. Usually a couple of megabytes of data is enough |
| 16:00.41 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: you need ~ 10M packets to "crack" a 128bits key |
| 16:00.41 | Tome | i need some help with dns - reverse dns to be exact |
| 16:00.41 | zinx | tuxyRochefort: use WPA :/ |
| 16:00.43 | tuxyRochefort | zinx, did you crack it yourself ? With aircrack ? |
| 16:00.59 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: you TKIP of CCMP, aka dynamic key generation |
| 16:01.00 | xam | zinx: use WPA2 |
| 16:01.04 | zinx | xam: heh |
| 16:01.11 | jethroo | s/you/use/ |
| 16:01.13 | xam | zinx: WPA is also unsafe :-/ |
| 16:01.16 | jethroo | damn I can't type |
| 16:01.17 | zinx | :/ |
| 16:01.25 | zinx | need router support |
| 16:01.32 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: use strong authentication and key renewal |
| 16:01.42 | Tome | <----is looking for somebody who got a clue about DNS |
| 16:01.48 | tuxyRochefort | jethro, how ? |
| 16:01.53 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: RTFM? |
| 16:01.53 | petemc | Tome: just ask |
| 16:01.54 | raf256 | !clue |
| 16:01.55 | dpkg | a clue is something that puts you on track to something, however you will not know for sure that the track you are put on is the right one. So, the conclusion is that whenever you get a clue you should investigate it! NOW!!, but something shift and dimension-42 need. Command Line User Environment, or something clueless people do without. http://okkie.frob.nl/clueshop.jpg |
| 16:01.58 | ArchitectSinan | take care guys, bye for now |
| 16:02.06 | tuxyRochefort | jethro, you mean on the access point ? |
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| 16:02.18 | tuxyRochefort | zinx, my AP doesn't supports WPA encryption |
| 16:02.19 | ArchitectSinan | lol :)) |
| 16:02.22 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: hostap/hostapd can act as a WPA2 access point |
| 16:02.33 | zinx | tuxyRochefort: sucks.. which AP? |
| 16:02.40 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: well, just *think*, where can you enforce security parameters in a wireless lan? |
| 16:02.40 | tuxyRochefort | zinx, netgear ME102 |
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| 16:03.08 | Tome | i got a webserver and a viruswall. the server is for webstuff and dns and i put the viruswall into dns as mailserver. but when people sending mails from the viruswall to AOL, AOL makes Reverse lookup..and this is nopt working properly |
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| 16:03.38 | Tome | basically i need help to set up the reverse zonefile or whatever i need to get this workin |
| 16:03.40 | petemc | Tome: your isp decides if you have ptr records, its quite rare for them to delegate it |
| 16:03.42 | tuxyRochefort | maybe i should put the AP behind a firewall/ iptables/arptables ? |
| 16:03.49 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: if you can't harden the wireless link, then use IPsec above the wifi |
| 16:03.58 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: exactly |
| 16:03.59 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: :-P |
| 16:04.05 | Tome | i have to decide it..as we have ozur own dns serrvers and ip range |
| 16:04.05 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: sure ill try it |
| 16:04.19 | tuxyRochefort | jethro, how can work ipsec above the wifi ? (is it a better solution than firewalling ?) |
| 16:04.19 | possie | anyone know how i could add a record to a dynamic dns bind system? |
| 16:04.20 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: are there sid installers for sparc? |
| 16:04.28 | petemc | Tome: what size of a range? bigger than a /27? |
| 16:04.33 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: ipsec provides ciphering and strong authentication |
| 16:04.47 | darxeth | hey guys i got a bug, kgpg crashed and caused the signal 11. is there anything i should do about it? (else than reporting it) |
| 16:04.49 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: so yes, it's better then simple IP filtering |
| 16:04.52 | Tome | 128 adresse4s |
| 16:04.54 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: d-i over the network booted (not directly) |
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| 16:05.02 | tuxyRochefort | jethro, can i use openvpn for that purpose ? (i know it better than ipsec) |
| 16:05.15 | petemc | Tome: a /5 |
| 16:05.21 | jethroo | tuxyRochefort: I don't know what openvpn does |
| 16:05.22 | Tome | but the viruswall is in a different network as its not managerd by me |
| 16:05.46 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: I have sarge ont his box already I just did not feel like messing with manual software raid 1 on the two drives so I was seeing if sarge rc3 might not have the mounting issue |
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| 16:05.51 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: but it does so I guess I must do manual raid 1 setup |
| 16:05.59 | petemc | Tome: a /25, even |
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| 16:06.34 | grigora | anyone knows a good list to discuss iproute2/iptable traffic shaping/ddos defense topics? thanks |
| 16:06.55 | tarzeau | grigora: #netfilter or #iptables (or so) |
| 16:07.02 | jethroo | grigora: you can't do much to protect( from DDoS |
| 16:07.07 | petemc | grigora: #lartc on oftc |
| 16:07.13 | Tome | petemc: out for our own channel |
| 16:07.14 | stew | grigora: lartc.org has a mailing list |
| 16:07.16 | Tome | ? |
| 16:07.50 | tarzeau | grigora: try #gentoo to build the fastest traffic shaper ever! |
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| 16:08.07 | stew | uhh |
| 16:08.08 | petemc | Tome: no, when im talking to you i'll put your nick before what i say |
| 16:09.16 | petemc | Tome: tho im not sure what else to tell you, if you control the rdns for the ip, big up - go ahead and set it up, otherwise, contact the correct person and ask them |
| 16:11.16 | jethroo | gah |
| 16:11.25 | jethroo | spent the day working on non work related stuff |
| 16:11.38 | darxeth | how can i activate samba to work with windows? i've done configuring but still dont know where's the problem, why it cant find any sharing files or even detect the other computer |
| 16:11.57 | grigora | jethroo: why? can I not identify the offending addresses and block their access or somehow shape their traffic based on a per second packet limit |
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| 16:12.43 | Tome | but how does the reverse file has to look like? |
| 16:12.50 | mattmm | what causes insane amount of orphan inodes? buggy kernel? |
| 16:12.54 | grigora | tarzeau: what's special about Gentoo besides being able to optimize the compilation? |
| 16:12.57 | Tome | i settet it up but somethin is not working |
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| 16:13.08 | GunZ | where is that explaination of the non-us stuff on the debian site? i can't seem to find it. |
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| 16:13.28 | jethroo | grigora: because filtering or not, you'll get ddosed, unless you have a *huge* pipe |
| 16:13.50 | tarzeau | grigora: i was kidding. forget it |
| 16:14.02 | dvs | GunZ: It just encryption stuff. As of sarge, non-us is a moot point |
| 16:14.05 | Tome | do a dig on www.ege.de and look for the mx record--then do a dig on the ip of the mx |
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| 16:14.21 | grigora | petemc: stew: thanks for the lartc info, it's very useful |
| 16:14.34 | GunZ | dvs: moot point? |
| 16:14.57 | jethroo | woa dnsstuff is so fucking boring with its b0rked rate limiting feature |
| 16:15.12 | grigora | jethroo: I understand, but if I drop the packets before they get to my webserver, that'll be better then not doing so, or denying access from the webserver, right? |
| 16:15.31 | dvs | GunZ: the US changed the laws so that they can export encryption software so it is now part of the main distribution as of sarge |
| 16:15.33 | stew | grigora: you cannot control a ddos via lartc. lartc cannot make the DOSer stop sending packets |
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| 16:15.49 | jethroo | grigora: if it's simple packeting, then filtering won't do much, but don't misunderstand me, it is *GOOD* to filter anything but the allowed services |
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| 16:15.57 | GunZ | dvs: ahhh ok thx |
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| 16:16.18 | dvs | GunZ: np |
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| 16:16.28 | jethroo | grigora: now if it's ressource starvation attacks, like naptha, then filtering might help the www server not being brought to its nknees |
| 16:17.06 | raf256 | how can I easy share my /var/cache/apt/ betwwn to my computers in LAN, to not download udaptes twice (espiecly when reinstalling system from scratch on one computer) |
| 16:17.42 | stew | raf256: look at apt-move apt-zip and apt-proxy |
| 16:17.55 | Tome | petemc:still there? |
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| 16:19.40 | schelm | i try to build evidence and get this error: "`IMLIB_ACQUIRE' undeclared (first use in this function)" libimlib2-dev is already installed, does anybody know whar i am missing? |
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| 16:20.00 | dvs | evidence? |
| 16:20.07 | schelm | dvs, a file manager |
| 16:20.14 | dvs | schelm: ah! ok. |
| 16:21.03 | darxeth | is it possible that i got this bug because of my none-updated system? debian: vr 2.4.27-1-386 i686-linux |
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| 16:21.34 | Quartop | upgraded to sage and now cant login as root... is this usual? |
| 16:21.53 | stew | Quartop: no |
| 16:21.55 | dvs | darxeth: As long as the versions of samba are the same, you shouldn't have a problem |
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| 16:22.06 | stew | Quartop: are you trying to log into console? or ssh/ |
| 16:22.15 | Gul | how can i find out how much memory a process or process group uses? |
| 16:22.32 | grigora | stew: jethroo: thanks for the ideas, what I am looking for is some software that will detect a ddos by specifying a limit to the number of requests per second, do I need Squid for this? |
| 16:22.55 | grigora | detect -> prevent |
| 16:22.56 | stew | grigora: are you trying to prevent a dos that will flood your pipe or use up all your server resources? |
| 16:23.00 | jethroo | grigora: if you run apache, look at mod_bandwith, mod_throttle, and mod_limitipconn |
| 16:23.02 | darxeth | dvs: Samba version 3.0.10-Debian, that doesnt look the same, right? |
| 16:23.14 | nobounds | Hi there! anybody knows if the latest Java SDK 1.5(Tiger) available as debian package? |
| 16:23.27 | stew | grigora: nothing you can do about flood your pipe, but server resourses can be saved via lartc |
| 16:23.31 | Quartop | restarted now and seems like Lilo got corrupted. Upgrading to sage rendered my system useless :P |
| 16:23.32 | jethroo | grigora: and again, you can't do anything to prevent DDoSers from flooding your pipe, but you can use any of the mod_* listed above toprotect apache |
| 16:23.43 | dvs | darxeth: That's a package version while the other is a kernel version, I think |
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| 16:24.05 | jethroo | grigora: or you can also look at lartc.org as ussuggested by others |
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| 16:24.43 | jethroo | nobounds: /msg dpkg java |
| 16:24.55 | darxeth | dvs: how can i update/check for updates to my system? |
| 16:25.13 | grigora | stew: jethroo: conserve my server resources as much as possible, so if I can do it via iptables, I'd rather do it there vs having Apache worry about it |
| 16:25.23 | dvs | darxeth: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 16:25.36 | darxeth | dvs: thanks |
| 16:25.41 | jethroo | grigora: ok |
| 16:25.56 | jethroo | grigora: happy iptabling then :) |
| 16:26.04 | grigora | jethroo: thanks |
| 16:26.09 | dvs | darxeth: np |
| 16:26.57 | GunZ | i keep getting these errors, with both woody and sarge, I: Retrieving debootstrap.invalid_dists_sarge_Release, E: unknown location ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release, what does this mean? i tried with different urls as well |
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| 16:27.25 | goedel | will the devices in /dev be recreated at restart? |
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| 16:27.29 | stew | grigora: i'd guess that your dns is broken |
| 16:27.53 | dvs | goedel: No |
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| 16:28.33 | goedel | thanks dvs; are they modified perhaps? |
| 16:28.38 | grigora | stew: why? |
| 16:29.22 | stew | grigora: ooops, nm |
| 16:29.26 | jethroo | grigora: he prolly meant GunZ |
| 16:29.27 | dvs | goedel: It could be udev taking the entries away. |
| 16:29.31 | stew | GunZ: i'd guess your dns is broken |
| 16:29.56 | goedel | thanks dvs; this answered my question |
| 16:30.08 | GunZ | stew: hmmm, but i have been using these dns settings for a while now and i havent had any problems |
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| 16:30.28 | dvs | goedel: Should have though of that before. |
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| 16:30.58 | ysothoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.00 | encrypt | sorry but html chanell is like idle so let me ask here.. is there a way to have a link to download a .htm file? (to avoid browser execute)? |
| 16:31.16 | stew | GunZ: that url works fine here, can ping ftp.uk.debian.org? |
| 16:31.20 | grigora | stew: jethroo: ah, ok :_ |
| 16:31.21 | grigora | :) |
| 16:31.22 | darxeth | dvs: i was wondering if you have any knowledge using samba? cause i'm having problems communicating between both computers, each have a diff OS (this one is debian, and on the other is windows 2000) |
| 16:31.33 | goedel | thanks dvs |
| 16:31.35 | zloy | How to mount an USB CD-ROM? |
| 16:31.37 | dvs | goedel: np |
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| 16:31.46 | mage__ | darxeth: which problems ? |
| 16:31.53 | GunZ | stew: i can ping it as well |
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| 16:32.15 | stew | zloy: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 16:32.17 | dvs | darxeth: I do have samba running a shared drive on a Debian server but I'm not sure at what point it started working. |
| 16:32.33 | stew | zloy: actually, thats not right |
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| 16:32.48 | GunZ | hmmm this is wierd |
| 16:32.48 | ska2 | \q |
| 16:32.49 | mage__ | encrypt: maybe with a header |
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| 16:33.02 | jethroo | GunZ: what's the IP you get for ftp.uk.debian.org |
| 16:33.04 | jethroo | ? |
| 16:33.09 | darxeth | dvs: seems everybody got problems with sambe ;) |
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| 16:33.24 | GunZ | jethroo: 195.224.53.39 |
| 16:33.51 | darxeth | mage__: when i do smbstatus i cant find nothing. tells me No Locked Files |
| 16:33.53 | jethroo | GunZ: weird, same here and I don't seem to have a problem connecting to it and listing the files |
| 16:33.56 | encrypt | thanks |
| 16:34.07 | stew | zloy: well it is but you need sr_mod not sd-mod |
| 16:34.12 | dvs | darxeth: I don't have any problems anymore. |
| 16:34.12 | GunZ | jethroo: i can view the files through my browser as well |
| 16:34.30 | GunZ | jethroo: must have a problem here somewhere |
| 16:34.36 | GunZ | but i cant see what it could be |
| 16:34.37 | jethroo | indeed |
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| 16:34.54 | jethroo | I m not used to using deboostrap on other distros than debian |
| 16:34.56 | phx | good morning |
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| 16:35.04 | jethroo | and I gotta go home, so.. good luck GunZ :) |
| 16:35.07 | zloy | stew: thanks. Shall try it |
| 16:35.13 | GunZ | jethroo: heh ok thx :) |
| 16:35.14 | darxeth | dvs: but after you apt-get installed it -> finished configuring it, did it just start working or you did something that made it run properly? |
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| 16:35.28 | phx | where can I find the config of the netinstaller 2.6 kernel? (What's in netboot.tar.gz) |
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| 16:35.34 | dvs | darxeth: Not right away. I came back to it and things started working. |
| 16:35.34 | phx | it's debian/sarge |
| 16:35.49 | darxeth | dvs: cause frankly i'm checking the smb.conf file and couldnt find where's the trick |
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| 16:36.04 | darxeth | dvs: wierd :P |
| 16:36.12 | dvs | darxeth: exactly |
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| 16:36.42 | Gumby | I'm trying to compile a kernel module and it is looking for /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-396/source, however /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386 is symlinked to /home/dilinger/src/kernel/kernel-image/2.6.8-13/kernel-image-2.6.8/install-386. I am guessing that someone forgot to remove or change a symlink before packaging the kernel-headers deb. Should thuis symlink be its own directory or should it link somewhere else? |
| 16:36.48 | darxeth | dvs: then you DO got problem with samba :) |
| 16:37.13 | dvs | darxeth: I guess so |
| 16:37.53 | valdyn_ | Gumby: where is that kernel-headers package from? that bug should be fixed long ago |
| 16:38.07 | Gumby | valdyn_: straight from a sarge mirror |
| 16:38.11 | Gumby | I have it on both my machines |
| 16:38.19 | darxeth | dvs: i got a whol big Ebook about samba, about 400 pages, have'nt yet started reading it but the begining sounds easy, would you like me to send it to you? no need for something in return :) |
| 16:38.21 | Gumby | including for 2.6.10 |
| 16:38.38 | Gumby | ls /lib/modules/2.6.10-1-686/source -al |
| 16:38.39 | Gumby | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 91 2005-03-31 16:27 /lib/modules/2.6.10-1-686/source -> /home/dilinger/src/kernel/kernel-image/2.6.10-6/kernel-image-2.6.10-i386-2.6.10/install-686 |
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| 16:38.54 | dvs | darxeth: Well, I don't need it anymore since I got things working the way I want to. |
| 16:39.22 | Gumby | 2.6.8 one is from calgary canada debian mirror and second is from estonia mirror |
| 16:39.22 | valdyn_ | Gumby: oh well, guess its not fixed then, but that bug ( or maybe an older mistake of the same kind ) is quite old already, just fix it manually |
| 16:39.26 | darxeth | dvs: allright |
| 16:39.35 | Gumby | valdyn_: where should it be pointing to? |
| 16:39.48 | Gumby | or should it be its own directory |
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| 16:40.35 | valdyn_ | Gumby: to the headers i believe |
| 16:41.05 | valdyn_ | Gumby: /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.10-1-686 ( i believe, i dont use debian kernels myself ) |
| 16:41.16 | Gumby | I'll give it a shot. thx |
| 16:41.46 | fflush | dpkg: parrot? |
| 16:42.27 | valdyn_ | Gumby: my own link here an an image i have points to something "weird" too, but i dont even have headers installed, so its just a dead link, that doesnt pose a problem in itself. So, do you even have headers installed? |
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| 16:43.29 | Gumby | valdyn_: yes, I have the headers installed |
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| 16:44.56 | macks | .org |
| 16:45.15 | dondelelcaro | whoooo! spamming for .org! |
| 16:45.34 | Ronin | wow now thats lame spamming, even for a lame spammer |
| 16:45.37 | dondelelcaro | such an excellent TLD |
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| 16:46.48 | ska | How are configuration files like /etc/w3c/apache.conf included in the apaceh configuration? |
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| 16:47.18 | valdyn_ | hmm, "No more BitKeeper Linux", that sounds like a late aprils joke |
| 16:47.41 | ska | I ask because I have the w3c-validator installed, and it works. I also have phppgadmin installed, and it gives me a 404. Both have a /etc/{w3c,phppgadmin}/apache.conf file |
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| 16:48.01 | dondelelcaro | ska: depends on how your apache.conf is written. Presumably you'd symlink it into /etc/apache/conf.d/, or add an IncludeFile directive. |
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| 16:49.10 | ska | dondelelcaro: I didn't find a symlink in conf.d to the w3c config file, nor an Include directive for the w3c thing |
| 16:49.25 | ska | I didn't change apache.conf from the default installation |
| 16:49.28 | dondelelcaro | ska: well, then you'll need to do that. |
| 16:49.28 | ska | (apache2) |
| 16:49.36 | ska | dondelelcaro: but the w3c thing works |
| 16:50.07 | dondelelcaro | ska: then the config file is being included in some other way, or the IncludeFile directive was added by the package. |
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| 16:50.42 | ska | I grep -r'd for Include in /etc/apache2, nothing relevant found |
| 16:50.48 | ska | after I installed w3c |
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| 16:52.47 | dondelelcaro | ska: ls -lr /etc/apache2; find /etc/apache2 -type f |xargs grep Include; will either show the config file, or it was added directly to a config file, or you load a specific module for the thing to work. |
| 16:53.28 | dondelelcaro | ska: which package are we talking about though? the w3c-markup-validator? |
| 16:53.41 | ska | dondelelcaro: yes |
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| 16:53.54 | ska | and phppgadmin is it that doesn't work |
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| 16:53.58 | dondelelcaro | ska: that's just a cgi script that installs into /var/lib/cgi-bin |
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| 16:54.24 | ska | dondelelcaro: I'm calling localhost/w3c-markup-validator |
| 16:54.24 | dondelelcaro | s/var/usr/ |
| 16:54.33 | ska | no cgi-bin in the URL, so that file is read |
| 16:54.38 | ska | that apache.conf |
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| 16:54.51 | dondelelcaro | ska: well, then look through your configuration. You're missing something. |
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| 16:55.00 | dondelelcaro | pastix: please stop that./ |
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| 16:55.11 | ska | Indeed :) |
| 16:55.20 | ska | pastix: /join #knoppix |
| 16:55.24 | ska | pastix: /join #knoppix-fr i mean |
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| 16:56.58 | ska | Ok, it works now. I'm not sure what situation I had. Thanks. |
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| 16:57.20 | Lorvija | !iptables |
| 16:57.20 | dpkg | it has been said that iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.samba.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 16:57.41 | Lorvija | !netfilter docs |
| 16:57.41 | dpkg | netfilter docs are at /usr/share/doc/iptables/html/ or http://netfilter.samba.org/unreliable-guides/ or http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/ or at http://netfilter.samba.org/ |
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| 16:57.57 | travisat | Lorvija: /msg dpkg please |
| 16:58.02 | Lorvija | trand okay (: |
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| 16:58.21 | trand | Lorvija, not me ~ ^ ^)b |
| 16:58.27 | Lorvija | bah damn tab :P |
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| 17:05.29 | yangxx | How bad is error Buffer I/O error on device hda; dma_intr status=0x51; dma_intr: error 0x40 ? |
| 17:05.49 | valdyn_ | yangxx: how often do you get that message? |
| 17:06.17 | yangxx | on bootup, and i runed fsck and ignored all errors and rewrite |
| 17:06.36 | valdyn_ | yangxx: just once on bootup? |
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| 17:06.47 | Siempre | hola |
| 17:06.50 | yangxx | no, i get about 30x that error for bad sectors |
| 17:07.00 | ludi | with "security = user" do I need to do anything with smbpasswd? |
| 17:07.09 | valdyn_ | yangxx: i would replace that disk |
| 17:07.22 | yangxx | valdyn_: yes, good idea |
| 17:07.28 | greycat | yangxx: you *will* replace that disk; the only question is when |
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| 17:07.58 | valdyn_ | yangxx: ive seen this errors cause being a broken driver |
| 17:08.06 | valdyn_ | yangxx: i cant tell you what it is in your case |
| 17:08.36 | yangxx | and funny, i replaced motherboard and processor, and everything boots, but WDM doesnt start anymore |
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| 17:08.56 | greycat | yangxx: with what error (in .xsession-errors)? |
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| 17:09.34 | valdyn_ | yangxx: tell which disk and which disk controller you are using |
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| 17:09.41 | yangxx | I will check, moment, i get sector errors on that hdd |
| 17:09.51 | chapolin | oi |
| 17:10.10 | diepes | io |
| 17:10.20 | yangxx | valdyn_: Western digital wd600 its eide drive |
| 17:10.44 | valdyn_ | yangxx: which disk controller |
| 17:10.53 | chapolin | oi |
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| 17:10.57 | yangxx | valdyn_: maybe its a kernel problem, since i build 2.6.11, i will try also the older kernel |
| 17:11.34 | chapolin | oi |
| 17:11.48 | chapolin | oi |
| 17:11.55 | Anders1 | oi |
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| 17:12.07 | chapolin | vc tem telefone |
| 17:12.17 | StephenFalken | Where can i find net install iso images with reiser support? |
| 17:12.20 | valdyn_ | yangxx: well lets cut this short since i dont know about many broken disk controllers, "lsmod | grep siimage" |
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| 17:13.34 | yangxx | valdyn_: i dont get output for that |
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| 17:14.23 | valdyn_ | yangxx: ok, youre not using that one ( which used to be broken in 2.6 ), i dont know which others are broken, except one by promise ( no idea bout its module name ) |
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| 17:15.19 | valdyn_ | yangxx: if you can, revert to a 2.4.x kernel and see if it works fine there, if it doesnt, then your disk is broken |
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| 17:16.11 | yangxx | greycat: .xsession-errors ; KDE detected X error Baddrawable (Invalid pixmap) kdeinit fatal io error |
| 17:16.14 | bluefoxicy | why the hell am I still in here |
| 17:16.19 | bluefoxicy | I have 400 megs of irc logs already |
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| 17:16.47 | yangxx | valdyn_: for now i didnt get any disl error in 2.4.22 kernel |
| 17:16.56 | chapolin | oi vc tem telefone |
| 17:17.00 | greycat | yangxx: well, "io error" could be from the disk failures |
| 17:17.09 | yangxx | valdyn_: but WDM blinks 3 times then it goes back to console |
| 17:17.28 | valdyn_ | yangxx: that is not a directly related problem |
| 17:17.37 | valdyn_ | yangxx: check your X logs |
| 17:17.45 | greycat | valdyn_: unless /usr/bin/wdm (or some kde lib) is actually corrupted |
| 17:17.49 | valdyn_ | greycat: yea |
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| 17:18.21 | valdyn_ | yangxx: are you 100% sure that the same disk works fine in 2.4.x ? |
| 17:18.32 | valdyn_ | yangxx: if so, please find out which controller youre using |
| 17:18.52 | valdyn_ | yangxx: ( lspci ) |
| 17:19.05 | Archer | SOS!How to extract a special file from a tgz-zipped file? |
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| 17:19.25 | stew | Archer: what do you mean by special? |
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| 17:20.08 | Archer | i have a very large file,i want to extract a file from it in a short time |
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| 17:20.27 | stew | Archer: tar xzf tarfile filename |
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| 17:21.08 | greycat | Archer: it still has to read and unzip the whole tarball no matter where the file is. |
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| 17:21.56 | Archer | stew:how to specify the path? |
| 17:22.27 | qwertz | Hi! I'd like to convert a webpage to a jpg. The webpage is larger than a whole screen, tried to print to ps and use gimp to export to jpg but gimp just takes the first page as import. Any suggestions? |
| 17:22.46 | stew | Archer: which path? uhh you just like type it on the command line |
| 17:23.29 | Archer | my god!~~the file is too large for me to extract them all |
| 17:23.34 | bbrazil | qwertz: you tried 'convert'? |
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| 17:24.06 | valdyn_ | qwertz: how much larger than one page? |
| 17:24.08 | Archer | stew: i mean the subdir that the file existed~ |
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| 17:24.21 | biggi_mat | hi |
| 17:24.24 | biggi_mat | again |
| 17:24.44 | stew | Archer: ffs: tar xzf /path/to/tar.gz path/of/file/to/extract |
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| 17:25.22 | greycat | Archer: do a table of contents on the tar ball first, silly. then use the EXACT FILE NAME that the TOC spits out, INCLUDING any leading "." or not. |
| 17:25.25 | qwertz | bbrazil, thanks will have a look |
| 17:25.30 | chapolin | oi |
| 17:25.37 | qwertz | valdyn_, 1 1/2 pages |
| 17:25.59 | biggi_mat | well... i have local net (like this: modem---server(debian)--workstation(windows/slackware). now the problem is that this two computers are connected and WS is sending packages to server but the server does not answer. |
| 17:26.00 | stew | chapolin: do you have a debian related question? |
| 17:26.08 | valdyn_ | qwertz: you can zoom in and out with firefox and probably most gecko based browsers, zoom out and just take a screenshot |
| 17:26.15 | biggi_mat | the computers are connected with crossover |
| 17:26.26 | greycat | biggi_mat: can you ping both ways? |
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| 17:26.32 | biggi_mat | greycat no |
| 17:26.36 | biggi_mat | no even one way |
| 17:26.39 | greycat | biggi_mat: then check the IP addresses and netmask |
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| 17:27.05 | biggi_mat | greycat netmask on server is set to 255.255.255.0 and it's the same on WS |
| 17:27.17 | greycat | and the IPs are secret? |
| 17:27.19 | biggi_mat | and IP of WS is 192.168.0.2 |
| 17:27.23 | valdyn_ | qwertz: but since you have gimp you can just take several shots then use gimp to stick the images together |
| 17:27.27 | jamsblast | how I obtain debian isos in colombia? |
| 17:27.35 | greycat | jamsblast: same way you obtain them anywhere else. |
| 17:27.40 | biggi_mat | and ofcrouse server IP is 192.168.0.1 |
| 17:27.48 | streuner | jamsblast: do you have (x)DSL? |
| 17:27.57 | greycat | biggi_mat: check dmesg for errors, check "ifconfig -a" for unusual signs, double-check the cabling |
| 17:28.15 | biggi_mat | greycat ok, we'll se, thanks |
| 17:28.16 | greycat | biggi_mat: take down any firewalls |
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| 17:28.27 | sebas_ | i mount my pendrive as non root user i a non root directory, but the mount change the owner to root and I cant write in it as non root user, any sugestion? |
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| 17:28.40 | greycat | sebas_: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 17:28.41 | karnov | hy all, i'm searching for some help about kerberos (with 2000 server and linux, where 2000 is the kdc and linux the client) someone knows something about this message : " KDC reply did not match expectations while getting initial credentials" ?? |
| 17:28.48 | greycat | sebas_: (or is this drive's FS not vfat?) |
| 17:29.02 | Archer | stew,it takes a long time which is not acceptable |
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| 17:29.21 | sebas_ | greycat: it is vfat |
| 17:29.22 | stew | Archer: don't gzip the file then |
| 17:29.36 | yangxx | valdyn_: how do i check for controller? |
| 17:29.36 | stew | Archer: once its gziped you have to ungzip the whole file |
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| 17:30.17 | biggi_mat | greycat well dmesg is usual i guess and ifconfig says as usual, nothing special |
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| 17:32.18 | messju | this channel is magic. i only joined and suddenly found the answer to my yet to be asked question! :D |
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| 17:32.45 | yangxx | I bought sempron 2300, but it gets recognised as 950mhz in bios |
| 17:32.45 | valdyn_ | yangxx: lspci |
| 17:32.54 | biggi_mat | messju well...i'm here for one week and still no solution |
| 17:33.06 | stew | yangxx: time to get out the manual for your motherboard |
| 17:33.11 | messju | oh. |
| 17:33.24 | Archer | my god~~the damage is huge |
| 17:33.30 | Archer | terrible~ |
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| 17:34.33 | chapolin | oi |
| 17:35.09 | directhex | yangxx, bios upgrade then |
| 17:35.43 | yangxx | valdyn_: there is bunch of data in lspci |
| 17:36.02 | yangxx | valdyn_: i will paste later |
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| 17:36.38 | valdyn_ | yangxx: that data should be english text - look for "ide controller" or "ata controller" or "raid controller" or something like that |
| 17:38.03 | jamsblast | anybody that speak spanish? |
| 17:38.05 | chapolin | oi |
| 17:38.07 | stew | !es |
| 17:38.07 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:38.10 | stew | chapolin: stop that |
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| 17:38.47 | Aimaz | jamsblast: un poco, pero creo no puedo ayudar con cosas technical |
| 17:38.59 | biggi_mat | !si |
| 17:38.59 | dpkg | i heard si is self-injury |
| 17:39.03 | biggi_mat | lol |
| 17:39.07 | biggi_mat | !slo |
| 17:39.11 | biggi_mat | nothing |
| 17:39.12 | stew | biggi_mat: /msg the bot |
| 17:39.17 | chapolin | oi |
| 17:39.33 | chapolin | vc tem msn |
| 17:39.47 | paines | hi |
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| 17:39.56 | dad | OK be nice :) I got this old box with 48MB RAM (233MMX) 4G HD and I can't upgrade the RAM. What's the best way, or OS to put on it? |
| 17:39.57 | stew | !ops chapolin |
| 17:39.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: chapolin |
| 17:39.59 | paines | what happend to planet.debian.net ? down the second day now |
| 17:40.10 | stew | paines: its on gluck |
| 17:40.15 | cSA | Which bt client can do so it scans a dir every to mins and if it find some torrent files it will start downloading them? |
| 17:40.58 | paines | stew, thanks |
| 17:41.07 | dad | I would like a GUI but only have 48MB RAM (max). What do you suggest? |
| 17:41.10 | valdyn_ | cSA: btdownloadmanycurses |
| 17:41.23 | valdyn_ | cSA: or maybe btlaunchmanycurses |
| 17:41.26 | jamsblast | no es acerca de cosas tecnicas, solo que si tu sabes como conseguir isos recientes de debian e colombia, no ftp |
| 17:41.45 | mattmm | anyone reccomend some snort "How-to's" running on a debian based web server? |
| 17:41.47 | cSA | valdyn_: not such command.. i installed the bittorent client packget.. |
| 17:41.50 | Aimaz | jamsblast: eres de colombia |
| 17:41.51 | Aimaz | ? |
| 17:41.53 | streuner_ | !es |
| 17:41.53 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 17:42.05 | valdyn_ | cSA: bt<tab><tab> |
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| 17:43.13 | homeros | h, i want to install debian but i cannot any iso images!i am currently using slackware and install debian on my friends PC |
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| 17:43.28 | valdyn_ | !d-i homeros |
| 17:43.29 | dpkg | homeros, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 17:43.32 | biggi_mat | well. i have local net but it doesn't really work. did all on debian i guess. the computers are linked but there is no traffic in way server to workstation. the interesting thing is that the trafic from workstation to server is. i don't know what to do. any ideas? |
| 17:44.18 | phin | ok, so i built a custom kernel, and now i get this error that says 2.6. kernels use pcmciamtd and no longer need memory_cs.c and do not need special mtd handling anymore. any clue how to get around this?? |
| 17:44.24 | streuner_ | biggi_mat: what happens if you 'ping -c1 192.168.1.10' for example |
| 17:44.33 | greycat | phin: use a debian kernel |
| 17:44.46 | phin | no fbsplash |
| 17:44.53 | biggi_mat | streuner_ my local IP on workstation is 192.168.0.2 so i should use this one right? |
| 17:44.53 | streuner_ | biggi_mat: 192.168.1.10 is an example, just use your server IP |
| 17:44.58 | biggi_mat | ok ok :> |
| 17:44.58 | homeros | do you suggest debian to a beginner? |
| 17:45.14 | phin | i mean, i cant use a custom kernel with debian? |
| 17:45.16 | jamsblast | si, soy de colombia |
| 17:45.26 | dvs | homeros: to linux or to computers? |
| 17:45.26 | streuner_ | homeros: if you have a brain, yes. |
| 17:45.40 | stew | !tell jamsblast about es |
| 17:45.44 | travisat | phin: you can its just more difficult |
| 17:46.00 | phin | i never had this problem with any other distro, im not really a noob to this... so... |
| 17:46.01 | homeros | dvs: for one of my friend, i am using slackware. he is new to linux |
| 17:46.11 | homeros | the slackware is not a beginner distro! |
| 17:46.13 | biggi_mat | streuner_ no reply. |
| 17:46.23 | stew | phin: this error you are seeing has nothing to do with debian |
| 17:46.29 | phin | ok, well what is it? |
| 17:46.32 | phin | pcmcia_cs? |
| 17:46.38 | streuner_ | biggi_mat: well, check the cables then, or the hub or switch |
| 17:46.49 | dvs | homeros: As long as there is someone to help him along, debian should be fine. |
| 17:46.58 | stew | phin: if you have a kenrel that works on another distro it would work on debian |
| 17:47.03 | biggi_mat | streuner_ i have crossover cable. i changed two cables so i think the cables should be ok. |
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| 17:47.05 | streuner_ | biggi_mat: did you load the modules for your NIC on both sides? |
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| 17:47.11 | arb | are there kde 3.4 repostiroies for testing? |
| 17:47.19 | homeros | dvs: i dont think so there is someone!he is alone.... |
| 17:47.20 | phin | stew: ok, but i cant use pcmcia cards, im just wondering if anyone could help me work out this problem |
| 17:47.23 | stew | arb: /topic ; /topic #debian-kde |
| 17:47.31 | streuner_ | biggi_mat: Is the cable connected to an hub or switch? |
| 17:47.31 | biggi_mat | streuner_ on win maschine is loaded anyway. and here i did modprobe 8139too so it should be |
| 17:47.45 | biggi_mat | streuner_ i don't have switch or hub |
| 17:47.52 | arb | stew, but i saw so unofficial |
| 17:47.53 | phin | ive built custom kernels on ubuntu and slack with this same source and never had the problem, is the pcmcia-cs package a little dated or something? |
| 17:47.55 | biggi_mat | i just have network like modem--server--ws |
| 17:47.58 | streuner_ | biggi_mat: ok, turn off the firewall in windows then |
| 17:48.00 | arb | stew, are the unofficial repos? |
| 17:48.02 | biggi_mat | with cables |
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| 17:48.12 | arb | stew, are there unofficial repos? |
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| 17:48.27 | sebas_ | greycat: My probem persist, I make all the msg but not work |
| 17:48.27 | stew | arb: /topic #debian-kde |
| 17:48.35 | arb | stew lol |
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| 17:49.45 | darxeth | does anybody knows where the "swat" file exists? (Samba Web Administration Tool) |
| 17:49.56 | stew | darxeth: /msg dpkg search |
| 17:50.05 | streuner_ | !info swat |
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| 17:50.17 | arb | stew can i use kubuntu kde pckages? |
| 17:50.17 | dpkg | swat: (Samba Web Administration Tool), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.11-1 (sid), Packaged size: 3908 kB, Installed size: 8896 kB |
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| 17:50.19 | sebas_ | i mount my pendrive as non root user i a non root directory, but the mount change the owner to root and I cant write in it as non root user, any sugestion? |
| 17:50.22 | abrotman | arb: wrong channel |
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| 17:50.29 | arb | arb, no in debian! |
| 17:50.36 | arb | abrotman, in debian |
| 17:50.42 | redduck666 | any ideas how to handle cvs:// links? |
| 17:50.42 | chealer | arb: why do you want KDE 3.4? |
| 17:50.43 | stew | arb: why not use the unofficial debian packages? |
| 17:50.44 | abrotman | arb: we still don't konw .. nor would any of us tell you to do it |
| 17:50.56 | arb | stew, i could not find unofficial |
| 17:50.56 | abrotman | arb: go ask #debian-kde |
| 17:50.59 | abrotman | arb: go ask #debian-kde |
| 17:51.01 | greycat | redduck666: by manually issuing a cvs(1) command? |
| 17:51.02 | arb | thx |
| 17:51.02 | stew | arb: ffs i told you twice |
| 17:51.08 | darxeth | i got a book about samba but appearently i cant fully implement their examples because they use another directory for samba, i just apt-get installed it but couldnt find the swat file |
| 17:51.11 | abrotman | stew: ear wax apparently |
| 17:51.12 | stew | arb: /topic #debian-kde |
| 17:51.13 | arb | stew, yes ?? i am blind :((((((((((( |
| 17:51.20 | smartbhai | change fstab |
| 17:51.20 | dvs | sebas_: Add a /etc/fstab entry |
| 17:51.25 | arb | stew, i can not see well |
| 17:51.33 | abrotman | not just /topic .. /join #debian-kde |
| 17:51.45 | arb | thx |
| 17:52.34 | phin | sigh, so i guess i should just use another distro or something? i really like debian... i just want it to work properly for me |
| 17:53.13 | abrotman | or something? |
| 17:53.19 | phin | eh fuck it, i'll figure it out myself, nice room you guys got here. no wonder people talk about this community so loudly. ::rollseyes:: |
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| 17:53.30 | stew | phin: if you would switch distros becuase you want a boot splash screen and can't figure out how to compile your own kernel, then yeah you should probably switch distros |
| 17:53.46 | abrotman | oh jeez .. all that for a bootsplash? |
| 17:53.51 | abrotman | what is wrong with kids these days |
| 17:53.56 | xam | stew: too late, but probably better so |
| 17:53.57 | mrhemlock | lol |
| 17:54.04 | stew | yeah |
| 17:54.38 | greycat | stew: well said, even if he wasn't around to appreciate it |
| 17:54.46 | arb | thx guys for your patience with me |
| 17:54.49 | arb | i found everything now |
| 17:55.04 | stew | well he'll feel like the fool after going through the pain of installing another distro only to have the same problem |
| 17:55.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: they play games on xbox |
| 17:55.05 | mrhemlock | 1 happy customer ;) |
| 17:55.14 | dvs | arb: np. At least someone appreciates us |
| 17:55.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: (and pacman is better than all the games on xbox together) |
| 17:55.29 | greycat | stew: sometimes you just have to let them make their mistakes |
| 17:55.32 | abrotman | tarzeau: that would do it |
| 17:55.34 | stew | yup |
| 17:55.47 | mrhemlock | only way to learn !! |
| 17:55.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: well probably nobody takes time for them? |
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| 17:56.07 | abrotman | tarzeau: or they don't know how to read |
| 17:56.12 | Archer | exit |
| 17:56.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: or that |
| 17:56.23 | airco | when i try to mount my windows partition i get "mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /mnt/windows busy", but the device isn't mounted and the directory isn't busy. does anyone have ideas for other causes, or pointes to where i might find more help? |
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| 17:57.29 | sepski | airco, check the output of mount that hda1 isnt mounted also check /proc/mounts |
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| 17:57.39 | stouset | dondelelcaro: You there? |
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| 17:57.58 | airco | sepski: already done, it's definitely not mounted |
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| 17:58.42 | sepski | airco, check /proc/partitions to verify you have a hda1 to mount, and try to mount it on some other dir that you just make for the test |
| 17:58.55 | arb | i have another question. i have here 30 workstations. is there some masssync tool? for example i have one workstation and when i update it, all of the 30 workstations do the update too? |
| 17:59.06 | zOap|MEDIA | Hi, Im trying to load selectwm at startx with: startx -m selectwm, or startx selectwm. It won't work. Neither will: startx -m twm, for instance... What am I doing wrong? When I : startx -t and then twm or selectwm in terminal it works fine... |
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| 17:59.19 | airco | sepski: /proc/partitions in #flood |
| 17:59.30 | stew | arb: check out dsh or clusterssh |
| 17:59.38 | stouset | Okay, so in 2.6.11, they removed the tg3 driver from the kernel proper. However, this debian-kernel post (http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/03/msg00412.html) says that the driver (and other nonfree drivers) will be in kernel-modules-nonfree. The package doesn't exist, and I need to upgrade to the latest kernel. I can't use 2.6.8 because it has a conflict with hotplug/udev/ipw2200, I can't use 2.6.10 because it's causing a block to occur every se |
| 18:00.03 | FromTO | where is pdftopbm. I installed xpdf (fresh copy) but the system still does not recognixe pdftopbm command |
| 18:00.17 | arb | stealth, what about debsync? |
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| 18:00.27 | stouset | Does anyone know where kernel-modules-nonfree can be found? |
| 18:00.30 | mrhemlock | !find pdftopbm |
| 18:00.39 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'pdftopbm' returned no results. |
| 18:00.53 | airco | sepski: anyway, i have a hda1 to mount and it gives the same error on a newly created dir |
| 18:00.55 | stew | arb: i don't know what debsync is |
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| 18:01.05 | stouset | !find kernel-modules-nonfree |
| 18:01.13 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'kernel-modules-nonfree' returned no results. |
| 18:01.29 | arb | stew, it is some python script, which does something similar i want to do, but it is not developed anymore |
| 18:01.33 | shadow00 | I get this message when doing apt-get install: Package dbdesigner is not available, but is referred to by another package. how do I find out what the other packages is? |
| 18:01.35 | mrhemlock | !find kernel-modules unstable |
| 18:01.41 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'kernel-modules' (1): (/usr/share/doc/debian-installer-manual/devel/historic/kernel-modules.txt) in devel/debian-installer-manual. |
| 18:01.58 | greycat | !find waldo unstable |
| 18:02.04 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'waldo' (1): (/usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-perl-doc/html/outstanding/success_stories/{www.lind-waldock.com.html|www.lind-waldock.com.pdf}) in doc/libapache-mod-perl-doc. |
| 18:02.05 | arb | !find debsync |
| 18:02.14 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'debsync' returned no results. |
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| 18:03.01 | sepski | airco, and what fs are you trying to mount ? |
| 18:03.03 | redduck666 | http://www.pastebin.com/268002 , http://sourceforge.net/projects/enlightenment/ doesn't have esmart. any help appriciated |
| 18:03.20 | pnm | hi all.. I'm trying to set up a simple NFS server on a debian machine to export one directory to one machine (same username system on both machines). I seem to have various processes and ports running on the server machine, like 784/tcp (rpc.mountd) , 885/tcp (rpc.statd), 111/tcp (portmap) 2049/tcp (nfs)... any idea how many of these are actually necessary and which can be shutdown or blocked? |
| 18:03.32 | ace_ | hi. apt-get update runs through cleanly but when trying to upgrade/install it can't find about 50% of the packages online. Whats could be wrong there? |
| 18:03.46 | airco | sepski: an NTFS windows partition of a regular HD |
| 18:03.57 | arb | bye gtg :) |
| 18:04.03 | arb | debian is a nice distro |
| 18:04.04 | sepski | airco, and you have ntfs module in kernel ? |
| 18:04.07 | redduck666 | ace_, maybe outdated sources.list? |
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| 18:04.20 | shadow00 | I get this message when doing apt-get install: Package dbdesigner is not available, but is referred to by another package. how do I find out what the other packages is? |
| 18:04.22 | ace_ | redduck666: no. The same one works on 3 other boxes. |
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| 18:04.40 | mrhemlock | ace_: probably a bad /etc/sources.list |
| 18:04.41 | airco | sepski: i think i do, but i have to admit kernel compiling isn't my cup of tea |
| 18:04.47 | airco | sepski: is it easy to check? |
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| 18:04.56 | caphuso | shadow00: apt-cache showpkg dbdesigner, and look at the reverse depends |
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| 18:05.03 | sepski | airco, do you compile your own or use kernel-image ? latter do a lsmod |
| 18:05.07 | pnm | ace_,if the same sources.list works on other machines, maybe it's a dns (or firewalling?) issue |
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| 18:05.39 | airco | sepski: a friend compiled it for me; latter: working on it |
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| 18:06.18 | airco | sepski: i have the following line in lsmod: ntfs 112112 0 |
| 18:06.25 | sepski | airco, if your running a non standard kernel, then that's where you need to look, with a kernel-image i think you can just modprove ntfs |
| 18:06.27 | mattmm | anyone see me typing? |
| 18:06.35 | sepski | mattmm, nope |
| 18:06.35 | tarzeau | mattmm: yeah |
| 18:06.39 | mattmm | yay |
| 18:06.42 | shadow00 | caphuso: I don think this is right education-desktop-other,dbdesigner |
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| 18:07.15 | Di``` | anybody can tell me where i find a good doc that explain how to recompile the kernel 2.6 ? i just want add device mapper |
| 18:07.15 | caphuso | shadow00: and what makes you think so? |
| 18:07.15 | ace_ | pnm: no, its in the same net.. but i just found out that ownership on files is somewhat broken.. everything seems to be owned by root now.. (wth?!) |
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| 18:07.51 | pnm | ace_: eek.. well, it makes sense for the sources.list file to be owned by root |
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| 18:08.06 | airco | sepski: k, so what do i do then? something along the lines of apt-get update kernel? :-) |
| 18:08.25 | sepski | airco, and you specify -t ntfs ofcouse, so i think i'd try a different kernel. |
| 18:08.33 | dvs | airco: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 18:08.36 | sepski | airco, but im hardly a expert in ntfs issues |
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| 18:08.50 | ace_ | pnm: hm, ok, thats true. But everything else is, too.. i had to rescue the system to another hd.. guess the ownerships got broken by that. fsck. |
| 18:08.56 | greycat | !tell Di``` about kernel of instability |
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| 18:09.05 | Sandoz | is people.debian.org no longer available? |
| 18:09.07 | greycat | Di```: /msg dpkg kp if you *really* insist on carrying on. |
| 18:09.11 | greycat | Sandoz: /topic |
| 18:09.20 | Sandoz | thanks |
| 18:09.26 | dvs | still? |
| 18:09.36 | shadow00 | caphuso: just doesn't look right..how do I tell what packages are in education-desktop-other |
| 18:09.36 | pnm | what happened to it? |
| 18:09.48 | caphuso | shadow00: apt-cache show |
| 18:09.53 | dvs | pnm: fsck of death |
| 18:09.58 | pnm | ouch! |
| 18:10.37 | jakepdev | can anyone tell me why "apt-get install libncurses5-dev" wouldn't work? |
| 18:10.50 | dvs | jakepdev: What message are you getting? |
| 18:11.12 | jakepdev | E: Package libncurses5-dev has no installation candidate |
| 18:11.17 | greycat | jakepdev: apt-get update |
| 18:11.24 | greycat | and if necessary, apt-setup |
| 18:11.39 | shadow00 | caphuso: screw it im going to download the tar.gz from site |
| 18:11.58 | jakepdev | greycat - tnx! |
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| 18:12.09 | Sandoz | you mean, theyre actually using e2fs on those servers? |
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| 18:12.52 | airco | dvs: and now just running 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.11-1-k7' will upgrade the kernel i suppose? |
| 18:13.01 | dvs | airco: yup |
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| 18:13.24 | airco | sepski: thx 4 the help, i'll try to get this baby upgraded without toasting my nuts :-) |
| 18:13.31 | dvs | airco: is there a kernel-image-2.6.11-k7? |
| 18:13.40 | rhalff | hi anyone happen to use kylix-open on debian ? |
| 18:13.51 | chealer | dvs: it's kernel-image-2.6.11-1-k7 |
| 18:13.56 | airco | dvs: well, it shows up in my apt-cache search, so i'm guessing it does :-) |
| 18:13.57 | Sandoz | grr.. any idea on how much longer gluck will be down? |
| 18:14.07 | dvs | airco: Use that instead |
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| 18:14.29 | sparr_ | Where can I find tips on getting sound to mix from various applications? Right now I can only have one app playing sound at a time, anything else that tries is silent. |
| 18:14.34 | airco | dvs: sorry, my mistake, didn't spot the difference there, it's what chealer said |
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| 18:14.45 | dvs | airco: ok. |
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| 18:15.14 | greycat | sparr_: use an emu10k1 chipset (sb live), or use ALSA, or use esd. |
| 18:15.17 | greycat | those are your 3 choices. |
| 18:15.32 | airco | dvs: hmm 2 question regarding the output of that apt-get install: |
| 18:15.34 | airco | Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1-k7 |
| 18:15.34 | airco | Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-1-k7 |
| 18:15.34 | airco | Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386 |
| 18:15.45 | dvs | airco: what about it? |
| 18:15.51 | airco | 1) should it bother me that there are 3 kernels living side by side on my system, |
| 18:15.59 | dvs | airco: no |
| 18:15.59 | greycat | not if you have the disk space |
| 18:16.16 | airco | and 2) should it bother me that my 2.6.10 kernels are k7 while my 2.6.8 kernel was apparently 386? |
| 18:16.22 | dvs | airco: no |
| 18:16.23 | greycat | (note that the modules in /lib/modules are HUGE for a debian kernel, so if you have a small / file system, those 3 kernel images add up fast) |
| 18:16.27 | sparr_ | greycat: im using ALSA |
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| 18:16.47 | airco | dvs: ok, then i'm going down for a restart, be back in 5, and thanx for the help |
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| 18:16.54 | dvs | airco: No problem |
| 18:17.05 | greycat | a -386 kernel runs on all i386 (x86, IA32) systems. |
| 18:17.07 | Sandoz | he hopes he comes back up |
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| 18:17.21 | dmiles | is there something about make-kpkg that commonly gives "WARNING {...}.ko needs unknown symbol {...}." |
| 18:17.24 | dmiles | > |
| 18:17.26 | dmiles | ? |
| 18:17.32 | dvs | Sandoz: sparr_ has old kernels so I can't see a big problem |
| 18:17.44 | dmiles | (as in, did I do something wrong in make-kpkg or is my kernel build not right?) |
| 18:17.46 | Sandoz | true |
| 18:17.48 | greycat | dmiles: misconfiguration, usually |
| 18:17.56 | greycat | dmiles: we do not recommend that users build custom kernels any more |
| 18:18.02 | sparr_ | greycat: so what do I have to do with ALSA to make it mix? |
| 18:18.09 | Sandoz | though, by default woody has no prompt enabled in lilo |
| 18:18.11 | greycat | sparr_: no idea |
| 18:18.21 | greycat | Sandoz: you can hold shift |
| 18:18.24 | rhalff | Im running trying to run kylix on debian, it starts up ok, but no fonts are shown, can anyone point me in the right direction on how to fix this ? |
| 18:18.28 | Sandoz | but it doesn't look like hes running woody |
| 18:18.30 | dvs | sparr_: Make sure your applications are using ALSA |
| 18:18.35 | cahoot | sparr_: you want to use the dmix plug in alsa |
| 18:18.48 | greycat | !find kylix |
| 18:18.55 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'kylix' (1): (/usr/share/doc/libboost-doc/HTML/tools/build/v1/kylix-tools.html) in doc/libboost-doc. |
| 18:19.07 | greycat | doesn't sound like you can run kylix *on* debian.. |
| 18:19.07 | yangxx | valdyn_: there is bunch of data in lspci, which one you want to see? |
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| 18:19.17 | greycat | sounds more like something you'd run *instead* of debian |
| 18:19.19 | sparr_ | ok, next question then... how can i make my sound not glitch (static) when applications do 'stuff'? for example, if im running a long apt-get in the background, each time a new download is started my sound crackles. or in mozilla every time i change tabs. or when i resize a game window. |
| 18:19.21 | rhalff | I only need it to compile something :) |
| 18:19.36 | greycat | sparr_: that is PRECISELY the reason why I ditched ALSA and ran back to OSS! |
| 18:19.54 | greycat | sparr_: it never worked in any way but "shitty" for me |
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| 18:20.41 | directhex | kylix runs okay on debian in my experience |
| 18:20.50 | directhex | except their crappy toolkit is as ugly as sin |
| 18:20.56 | directhex | a bit like gtk1 beaten with the ugly stick |
| 18:21.00 | rhalff | directhex, I only have problems with no fonts showing |
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| 18:21.43 | rhalff | I don't have to use many of kylix, just modify some pascal code from dbdesigner4 and compile it with kylix. |
| 18:22.04 | rhalff | so probably I need some rare fonts or something ? |
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| 18:22.16 | rhalff | I'm not really into fonts :) |
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| 18:22.51 | rhalff | problem is kylix is not complaining it can't find something. |
| 18:22.58 | dvs | airco: you made it back! |
| 18:23.00 | greycat | !kylix |
| 18:23.00 | dpkg | methinks kylix is at http://www.borland.com/kylix/ |
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| 18:23.08 | greycat | oh.... some sort of payware. |
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| 18:23.40 | sparr_ | aww FUDGE |
| 18:23.44 | rhalff | dbdesigner is made it with it and is gpl, so what's the problem :) |
| 18:23.46 | dvs | !beer airco |
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| 18:23.52 | directhex | it's a closed source visual pascal implementation, with a beer free version whose license only allows development of gpl apps |
| 18:23.53 | airco | :) |
| 18:23.57 | directhex | which is a bit messed up |
| 18:24.00 | sparr_ | is there any way i can dist-upgrade in reverse to a particular date? something i updated last night has killed a game i play |
| 18:24.15 | airco | grah |
| 18:24.19 | airco | sorry, i hate guiness |
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| 18:24.26 | airco | anyway, the kernel is up and running |
| 18:24.31 | Ronin | airco: bit of a waste of beer, hate guinness? someone ban him :) |
| 18:24.34 | sepski | airco, thats it, you won get more help from me !!! |
| 18:24.39 | dvs | airco: /exec -o uname -r |
| 18:24.46 | airco | but i still can't mount the ntfs drives |
| 18:24.59 | grigora | does anyone know if mod_dosevasive is production ready and stable? |
| 18:25.12 | sepski | airco, well use vfat and live happily ever after |
| 18:25.20 | directhex | airco, ubuntu? |
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| 18:25.28 | airco | directhex: yeah |
| 18:25.45 | airco | directhex: known issue? |
| 18:25.47 | directhex | !beer me |
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| 18:25.58 | aardvark | !bear directhex |
| 18:26.01 | directhex | airco, ubuntu issues are by definition not known in here, they're known in #ubuntu |
| 18:26.13 | dvs | hahah |
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| 18:26.21 | airco | well i asked it over there but nobody knew, and people here are quicker to help :-p |
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| 18:26.28 | Lorvija | is there "secure install" of apache&php&modperl available? or any way to make it more secure, ie install to chroot? |
| 18:26.31 | schelm | hi, after starting evidencd i get the following error: "evidence: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_lock" what can i do now? |
| 18:26.48 | smartbhai | can we convert movies to the popular divx format using any tool? |
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| 18:27.23 | greycat | smartbhai: marillat has that sort of thing. |
| 18:27.26 | sparr_ | how can i get back an old version of a kernel-image package? |
| 18:27.27 | greycat | !marillat |
| 18:27.27 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list |
| 18:27.28 | directhex | smartbhai, not ANY tool, no. i don't think gnucash can do it |
| 18:27.34 | greycat | sparr_: look in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 18:27.43 | greycat | sparr_: or /msg dpkg sdn |
| 18:27.43 | dvs | sparr_: Just don't erase it. |
| 18:27.50 | smartbhai | directhex :hehe |
| 18:27.55 | sparr_ | and, on the same note, how can i make a kernel-image package not fuck up my grub conf? |
| 18:27.56 | sepski | sparr_, if it's a kernel just select that kernel in the grub boot menu |
| 18:28.11 | smartbhai | greycat : is marillat in standard debian pool |
| 18:28.15 | bazz | as the second to last line in my .xinitrc, right before enlightenment, i have 'xset b off' but my bell still goes off until i open a terminal and enter it there. what could be enabling it over my .xinit command? |
| 18:28.18 | sparr_ | sepski: the new one is the one on the grub menu |
| 18:28.18 | directhex | smartbhai, use the debian repository greycat just gave you, apt-get install vobcopy avidemux libdvdcss2. use vobcopy to get films to disk, then avidemux to transcode them |
| 18:28.19 | greycat | smartbhai: no. see above. |
| 18:28.28 | greycat | marillat is a person's name. |
| 18:28.46 | Ruth_Lemos | alguém poderia me ajudar? estava criando um simples script no red hat 9 usando if / else... quando carreguei o script apareceu um aviso q a linha do else estava com erro de sintaxe, alguem poderia me falar a sintaxe correta do else? |
| 18:28.51 | greycat | !br |
| 18:28.51 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:28.59 | sepski | sparr_, i never remove the old kernels before i know the new ones are good, and i ususlay have a few laying around just in case |
| 18:28.59 | airco | directhex: will replacing my ubuntu distro with a debian distro fix the problem? :-) |
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| 18:29.18 | sparr_ | sepski: neither do I. which is why i dislike using kernel image packages in the first place. |
| 18:29.32 | directhex | airco, i wasn't paying attention to the problem, i just noticed a not-in-debian kernel |
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| 18:29.58 | sepski | sparr_, i love the kernel-images, they get added to/removed from -grub automagicaly it's debian magic :) |
| 18:30.04 | sparr_ | greycat: thanks, its in the archives. |
| 18:30.08 | greycat | sparr_: what does "not deleting kernels" have to do with "not liking kernel image packages"? |
| 18:30.35 | greycat | other than their extraordinary size |
| 18:30.44 | sparr_ | greycat: well, if this package update hadnt deleted the old kernel id be able to just pick the old one off my grub boot menu and all would be well |
| 18:30.49 | smartbhai | directhex : can i convert divx back to normal movie files |
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| 18:31.08 | directhex | smartbhai, by "normal movie files" you mean what precisely? |
| 18:31.15 | greycat | you upgraded to the *same version* of your current kernel? |
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| 18:31.26 | directhex | sparr_, you added your kernel under the "add custom kernel lines here" line, right? |
| 18:31.26 | greycat | and the new one was *bugged*? |
| 18:31.34 | sparr_ | sepski: speaking of that automagic... how can i stop it? every time i install a kernel image package it breaks my grub conf (it puts the wrong hard drive as my root) |
| 18:31.43 | sparr_ | greycat: not on purpose, dist-upgrade did it for me :( |
| 18:31.45 | jethroo | do I have to use a script to have a user set his password right after login with ssh using a keypair ? can't seem to find out how to do this with chage |
| 18:31.49 | directhex | sparr_, fix your grub config so it puts the RIGHT root |
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| 18:32.11 | greycat | for the record, I still haven't figured out how to make the double-layer-of-commented-options thing work in menu.lst |
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| 18:32.15 | smartbhai | direct hex : i mean mpgd |
| 18:32.17 | smartbhai | direct hex : i mean mpgs |
| 18:32.22 | smartbhai | direct hex : i mean mpg |
| 18:32.25 | sepski | sparr_, sounds like you have messed up somewhere |
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| 18:32.26 | directhex | the line "# kopt=" is where the root for all kernel images is defined |
| 18:32.30 | sparr_ | directhex: it has the right root now. but next time i install a kernel image (whichs hould be in about 5 minutes now that i found the old version) its going to pick the wrong root again |
| 18:32.43 | jethroo | I was thinking of a sudo call to a script with chsh and passwd, but it's not KISS compliant imho |
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| 18:32.53 | schelm | hi, after starting evidence i get the following error: "evidence: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_lock" what can i do now? |
| 18:33.02 | sparr_ | greycat: so yes, now that i have the new bugged version i need to go back |
| 18:33.04 | directhex | sparr_, only due to your own error. edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the kopt= line to suit your tastes. LEAVE IT COMMENTED. |
| 18:33.13 | greycat | directhex: one time I edited that line, and nothing happened. are you supposed to run something to turn it into non-commented options? |
| 18:33.31 | directhex | greycat, it comes into effect when update-grub is called |
| 18:33.42 | stew | greycat: i know the kopt thing was kinda broken until recently |
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| 18:34.01 | sparr_ | directhex: done. thanks. wonder why i never needed to do that before |
| 18:34.04 | stew | greycat: at least kopt_x.x.x where x.x.x is version number |
| 18:34.14 | directhex | smartbhai, "mpg" is rather generic. dvd doesn't use mpg, it uses mpeg2 video in riff encapsulation, with mpeg1 layer3 audio, or ac3 audio, or pcm audio, or dts audio |
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| 18:34.22 | greycat | directhex: if users are supposed to run that themselves, the "documentation" in the file should make that clearer |
| 18:34.27 | yangxx | when i do startx, i get errors: EE failed to load module xie; EE no devices detected; XIO Fatal IO error 104 connection reset by peer |
| 18:34.28 | sparr_ | greycat: any other advice before i "downgrade" my kernel pacakge? |
| 18:34.39 | greycat | sparr_: have rescue media handy. as always. |
| 18:34.40 | directhex | greycat, they aren't, update-grub is run after every action involving a kernel package |
| 18:34.45 | sparr_ | also... how can i tell apt-get NOT to update my kernel to the broken version next time i do a dist-upgrade? |
| 18:35.10 | smartbhai | ok can i then cut scenes and sound out of movie files like mpg or dvd |
| 18:35.14 | directhex | greycat, as defined in /etc/kernel-img.conf, on the postinst_hook and postrm_hook lines |
| 18:35.22 | smartbhai | directhex :::ok can i then cut scenes and sound out of movie files like mpg or dvd |
| 18:35.53 | directhex | smartbhai, you want to put things back on dvd after editing? yes, but transcoding to divx (xvid) first will kill the image quality and take about 8 hours |
| 18:35.57 | sepski | sparr_, are you running sarge ? have no issues with the latest kernel-images |
| 18:36.08 | sparr_ | sepski: unstable (the name fits :) ) |
| 18:36.12 | directhex | sparr_, what's broken exactly? |
| 18:36.18 | directhex | oh, hang on... |
| 18:36.25 | sparr_ | directhex: i wish i knew. my game of choice just dropped from 20FPS to 2FPS average |
| 18:36.26 | directhex | ffs, run "m-a a-i nvidia" |
| 18:36.26 | greycat | directhex: so if you just want to change the kopt= line but you *don't* install a new kernel image after doing so, you must run update-grub. right? |
| 18:36.30 | kab | hellow, I have an apache issue in Debian Sarge, I want to put Server Side Includes support, and I put in my /etc/apache/apache2.conf the next lines Options +Includes |
| 18:36.30 | kab | AddType text/html .shtml |
| 18:36.30 | kab | AddOutputFilter includes .shtml |
| 18:36.30 | kab | But I have this error in my apache log "[error] an unknown filter was not added: includes", how can I fix that? |
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| 18:36.36 | sepski | sparr_, well that's the purpose if sid, to have users find out what breaks, so it's working perfectly you write yth |
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| 18:36.45 | directhex | greycat, yes. |
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| 18:37.11 | smartbhai | directhex : i dont have a dvd , forget divx i just want to cut scenes out of normal mpg files.. whill the tools u said work for that |
| 18:37.13 | cg0def | does anyone know what python-gnome-extras are called in apt? |
| 18:37.20 | directhex | sparr_, your kernel isn't broken, your nvidia kernel module is simply out of date. m-a a-i nvidia will build a new one. |
| 18:37.21 | sepski | sparr_, if you want tested kernel-images you use... uhh testing. :) |
| 18:37.22 | sparr_ | sepski: the last 3 words of that sentence made no sense. |
| 18:37.38 | directhex | smartbhai, avidemux will allow you to do that, yes |
| 18:37.43 | sepski | sparr_, as normal with me |
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| 18:38.19 | smartbhai | direct hex : thanx |
| 18:38.19 | directhex | 1600x1200 framebuffer console is officially "nice" by the way |
| 18:38.33 | jethroo | sparr_: module-assistant auto-install nvidia |
| 18:38.34 | pipe | directhex: Use a VESA X11 server, like a man. |
| 18:38.36 | directhex | sparr_, oh god. let me guess. you used nvidia-instalelr to install your graphics drivers, right? |
| 18:38.55 | directhex | sparr_, i.e. "sh nvidiafoo.run" |
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| 18:39.09 | binarydigit_ | if i always want the latest 2.6 image, should i install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 18:39.20 | greycat | binarydigit_: yes |
| 18:39.22 | directhex | binarydigit_, install it from sid, yes |
| 18:39.24 | sparr_ | directhex: sadly, yes, after all the 'the debian way' ways failed |
| 18:39.31 | binarydigit_ | directhex: sid? |
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| 18:39.35 | directhex | okay! now we know what happened! |
| 18:39.36 | binarydigit_ | directhex: why sid |
| 18:39.47 | directhex | less fucking about, kids, the cause of all his trouble is nvidia-installer |
| 18:39.48 | greycat | binarydigit_: sarge is freezing |
| 18:39.48 | jethroo | binarydigit_: because sid has newer kernels |
| 18:39.55 | binarydigit_ | oh, i mean the latest in sarge |
| 18:39.56 | binarydigit_ | sorry |
| 18:39.59 | directhex | binarydigit, because sarge has 2.6.8 and that's it |
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| 18:40.12 | greycat | !tell sparr_ about nvidia one-liner |
| 18:40.13 | sparr_ | if i could ever get module-assistant to work id use it |
| 18:40.17 | directhex | sparr_, you might've said so sooner. that's why your system is broken |
| 18:40.21 | binarydigit_ | is it safe to use the kernel out of sid |
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| 18:40.28 | greycat | binarydigit_: probably not. |
| 18:40.38 | directhex | sparr_, using an old kernel will not fix it, x in sarge was recently updated so half your nvidia files have been replaced |
| 18:40.39 | binarydigit_ | yea so i think ill just stick with sarge's kernel |
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| 18:40.46 | darxeth | damn, how can i convince my father that what he's reading right now is just a spam! he tells me: shutup! its 15.000.000$ !!! let me check it out! dont bother me!! :S |
| 18:40.53 | darxeth | any help? :D |
| 18:41.00 | greycat | darxeth: walk away. |
| 18:41.01 | directhex | darxeth, let him make his own mistakes |
| 18:41.19 | sparr_ | greycat: of course the m-a attempt failed. i shall attempt the other method |
| 18:41.20 | darxeth | directhex: but his mistakes effects me too :( |
| 18:41.25 | dvs | !pal darxeth's dad |
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| 18:42.07 | directhex | sparr_, you're being really forthcoming with information aren't you. your current situation would never have happened if in the first place you had said "foo error message when i try module assistant", and actually done it the debian way |
| 18:42.16 | directhex | infact, new factoid. greycat, i need help authoring this one |
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| 18:42.41 | addNtoX | hi folks |
| 18:42.47 | sparr_ | directhex: i wasted just shy of a day in here, speaking to greycat among others, trying to get m-a to work. i was forthcoming with error messages then. i cant say if they are the same ones im getting now |
| 18:42.47 | smartbhai | any brilliant sound editing tools available? |
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| 18:43.03 | dvs | smartbhai: you have the audacity to ask this ? ;-) |
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| 18:43.17 | greycat | dvs: cruel. :) |
| 18:43.18 | stew | darxeth: having him do a google search for 419 |
| 18:43.22 | dvs | greycat: I know ;-) |
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| 18:43.25 | airco_ | hmm sorry about that, got disconnected apparently... don't suppose i missed anything in the mean while? :-) |
| 18:43.27 | sparr_ | the nvidia one-liner appears to have worked, despite some warnings from dpkg about unpacking multiple copies of the same package in one run |
| 18:43.44 | stew | smartbhai: apt-cache show audacity |
| 18:43.53 | smartbhai | directhex : i think audacty doesnt have much options |
| 18:44.12 | smartbhai | stew : yes i have it |
| 18:44.13 | directhex | !nvidia-installer really sucks is <reply>We don't tell you not to use drivers from nvidia.com for fun. We have valid reasons for it, based on extensive experience. What it boils down to is this: your system will "work fine" for a while, then break HORRIBLY, if you don't install the driver the Debian way. Don't expect sympathy. Do it RIGHT the first time - /msg dpkg nvida one-liner |
| 18:44.14 | dpkg | directhex: okay |
| 18:44.28 | directhex | greycat, that seem reasonable to you? |
| 18:44.49 | sparr_ | directhex: nvidia one-liner didnt exist last time i tried this, and no amount of support from anyone was able to get m-a (or the "manual" way) to work |
| 18:45.02 | stew | smartbhai: http://linux-sound.org/ |
| 18:45.02 | directhex | sparr_, you last tried it in 2004? |
| 18:45.11 | directhex | infact |
| 18:45.14 | smartbhai | stew : thanx |
| 18:45.16 | directhex | !factinfo nvidia one-liner |
| 18:45.16 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner -- last modified at Mon Mar 14 16:19:19 2005 by directhex!~jms@dhcpa6.comlab.ox.ac.uk; it has been requested 125 times, last by greycat, 5m 4s ago. |
| 18:45.33 | directhex | hm, no creation date. sure i wrote that before i started at my current job in september |
| 18:45.36 | darxeth | stew: what is 419 dude? |
| 18:45.45 | sparr_ | i last tried it whenever i installed linux last |
| 18:45.48 | sparr_ | its been quite a while |
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| 18:46.05 | directhex | so i'm right. 'your system will "work fine" for a while, then break HORRIBLY' |
| 18:46.17 | sparr_ | work fine for a while is better than work not at all forever |
| 18:46.32 | sparr_ | the advent of the nvidia one-liner in the interim is perfect timing |
| 18:46.45 | directhex | i wrote the one-liner factoid. it is my masterwork. it is neccessary, and maintained. |
| 18:46.59 | smartbhai | also is their someway for viewing webcams of yahoo messenger users |
| 18:47.14 | directhex | smartbhai, with gaim-vv manually compiled, i think |
| 18:47.44 | sparr_ | will i need to reboot or just restart X to see if it worked? |
| 18:47.46 | airco_ | directhex: it does have some poetry to it... you should have it engraved somewhere |
| 18:47.47 | sinoth | Can anyone suggest a method for capturing rcS.d script output? I need to parse through it but it isn't caught in dmesg :/ |
| 18:48.05 | smartbhai | directhex:how |
| 18:48.21 | greycat | sinoth: /msg dpkg bootlogd |
| 18:48.22 | directhex | smartbhai, download the gaim-vv source from their website, configure, compile, run |
| 18:48.34 | smartbhai | directhex:link |
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| 18:48.42 | sinoth | greycat: thanks |
| 18:48.48 | directhex | google? gaim-vv.sf.net i expect |
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| 18:50.17 | sparr_ | ok, reboot time! |
| 18:50.33 | directhex | reboot? did you go ahead and change kernel or something? |
| 18:50.38 | kurtak | I'm curious - Does Linux do anything to get around hd fragmentation? |
| 18:50.38 | dvs | sparr_x: goodbye forever ;-) |
| 18:50.48 | sinoth | lol |
| 18:51.09 | kurtak | yeah, might be a crazy dumb question |
| 18:51.25 | sinoth | kurtak: i'm curious about that too :) |
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| 18:52.16 | abrotman | !defrag |
| 18:52.16 | dpkg | rumour has it, defrag is the best windows screensaver, or what windows users do for emotional satisfaction when the frequency of illegal operations and bluescreens has become too big |
| 18:52.27 | ecko | kurtak: yes apparantly ext3 avoids fragmentation |
| 18:52.37 | ecko | kurtak: that's why writes aren't flushed to the disk right away |
| 18:52.39 | abrotman | kurtak: linux doesn't get fragmented the same way |
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| 18:52.52 | abrotman | ecko: you can force writes right away |
| 18:52.52 | stew | darxeth: do a google search for 419 go to one of the pages that is not 419eater |
| 18:53.05 | stew | darxeth: then go to 419eater after you know what 419 is |
| 18:53.19 | kurtak | ah ha. Do you know of any docs online about how ext3 avoids fragmentation? |
| 18:53.21 | ecko | abrotman: Yes you can force them right away but all that does is slow down writes that are pending |
| 18:53.38 | ecko | ecko: You essentially just go to the front of the line |
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| 18:53.51 | ecko | I talked to myself right there |
| 18:53.53 | ecko | :-P |
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| 18:56.20 | abrotman | ecko: i meant mount sync |
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| 18:57.01 | anhi | "/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin: undefined symbol: NS_NewUnionEnumerator" a gdb + bt gave no result, anybody else got the problem? (running sid) |
| 18:57.22 | p88 | what is the dpkg command to have it say something about bad / good questions? |
| 18:57.54 | ecko | abrotman: I'm talking out my ass but mount sync probably does the same thing |
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| 18:58.06 | FarrisG | I've got an application that is using some fonts that I apparently have on one box, but not on another. I run the binaries from a file server on one machine and everything looks fine. On the other machine, all the text is squares and arrows. Any ideas? |
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| 18:58.16 | ecko | as soon as you get it write it writes it and forgoes the disk scheduler but then again I am talking out my ass\ |
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| 18:58.34 | p88 | oh eh I ment the bot |
| 18:58.36 | p88 | dpkg |
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| 18:59.54 | sparr | ok, now my nvidia kernel module and nvidia X module have a version mismatch |
| 19:00.07 | sparr | the kernel module is newer than the X module |
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| 19:00.34 | addNtoX | which character encoding is used on this network? |
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| 19:00.43 | greycat | addNtoX: ascii |
| 19:01.00 | Nemesis|w0rk | hi, how can I change my local ip address? |
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| 19:01.01 | addNtoX | no, i mean utf-8 or some iso-style |
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| 19:02.58 | sparr | Nemesis|w0rk: ifconfig eth0 123.45.67.8 |
| 19:03.48 | valdyn | addNtoX: asci in this channel different channels may use whatever they want |
| 19:03.55 | sparr | greycat: now that i have the latest kernel module, how do i get the latest X module? |
| 19:04.01 | Nemesis|w0rk | thanks sparr =) |
| 19:04.14 | Lorvija | hiya, is there ANY way with iptables/apache.conf or with anything to drop all http requests which come to apache which are longer than xx chars? |
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| 19:06.10 | Jec2 | hey guys. need some help for some weird pb. I got a linux debian server which is used as nat internet sharing/dhcp and so on. 2 laptops connecting to internet through this server. Both always worked fine. And suddennly on one of them microsoft sites and msn stopping working. Whereas if I connect directly to internet on that laptop all works fine. Any ideas ? Maybe some cache to clean up on nat or dhcp ? |
| 19:07.01 | valdyn | Jec2: hehe, funny, im fighting with something like that too |
| 19:07.12 | Rawplayer | Jec2: ip route flush cache |
| 19:07.20 | Raenius | Do you have it setup as dns too? |
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| 19:07.26 | Jec2 | Rawplayer how do I do that ? |
| 19:07.28 | yangxx | when i do startx, i get errors: EE failed to load module xie; EE no devices detected; XIO Fatal IO error 104 connection reset by peer |
| 19:07.34 | Rawplayer | Jec2: ip route flush cache |
| 19:07.40 | valdyn | Jec2: does www.postbank.de load for you from the "broken" box? |
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| 19:07.48 | Rawplayer | try holding your machine and sing that line |
| 19:08.03 | yangxx | valdyn: you wanted to see lspci errors? |
| 19:08.06 | Rawplayer | type it in your console |
| 19:08.07 | Jec2 | no using dns from my provider. another issue I dont know how to do is to get my dhcpd.conf updated automatically with my provider dns |
| 19:08.09 | Rawplayer | as root |
| 19:08.17 | Jec2 | ok thanxs |
| 19:08.22 | valdyn | yangxx: no, not errors, just what your disk controller is |
| 19:08.37 | sparr | directhex: once i have the latest kernel module, how do I update my X module to match? |
| 19:08.39 | yangxx | valdyn: i will paste in #flood |
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| 19:09.29 | Jec2 | yangxx no doesnt seem to load either |
| 19:09.31 | jethroo | what's the debian way to create accounts for user using ssh with pubkey authentication to login, and allowing them to set a password when connecting for the first time? |
| 19:09.32 | sparr | whats the name of the program that lets you use your mouse to copy/paste in console? |
| 19:09.35 | Jec2 | any ideas yangxx |
| 19:09.44 | valdyn | Jec2: wrong target? |
| 19:09.47 | kab | hellow, I have an apache issue in Debian Sarge, I want to put Server Side Includes support, and I put in my /etc/apache/apache2.conf the next lines Options +Includes |
| 19:09.51 | Jec2 | waiting ... |
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| 19:09.55 | Jec2 | to tell you |
| 19:09.56 | Jec2 | a sec |
| 19:10.08 | kab | But I have this error in my apache log "[error] an unknown filter was not added: includes", how can I fix that? |
| 19:10.08 | yangxx | Jec2: no, i dont know |
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| 19:10.30 | greycat | sounds more like an apache2 issue than an apache issue, to me. |
| 19:10.31 | sparr | kab: did you type +Includes or +includes? |
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| 19:10.44 | Jec2 | ip route flush doesnt seem to solve the issue |
| 19:10.48 | valdyn | yangxx: i have that controller, it should work perfectly fine, so ill blame your disk |
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| 19:11.39 | valdyn | yangxx: hmm, nvm, mine is slightly different |
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| 19:11.43 | sparr | the problem with doing things The Debian Way is that once you do, youre stuck here for support. No other distro-neutral channel will touch it with an 11 foot pole. |
| 19:11.53 | veleno | anyway to burn cue/bin iso with cdrecord ? |
| 19:12.17 | valdyn | yangxx: i would try to pass "pci=routeirq" to your kernel and see if the problem persists |
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| 19:12.37 | sparr | veleno: iso should burn just fine. cue/bin no. |
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| 19:12.50 | valdyn | Jec2: i didnt find the problem really, i use squid as workaround |
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| 19:12.59 | kab | Spark, Options Options +Includes |
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| 19:13.42 | mjunkiexl | test |
| 19:13.53 | kab | green_earz, is apache2, yeap |
| 19:13.57 | mjunkiexl | is there a developer in the house? |
| 19:14.06 | valdyn | Jec2: in case of postbank.de some router on the way will react different if the packet is masqueraded than if it isnt, i havent got the slightest idea how / why he can do that |
| 19:14.08 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: just ask your question. |
| 19:14.11 | Ketter | issue: I can't get the bios of a rather old system to boot from CD.. now, I do got a rescue flop.. but no network. What arguments do I need to give the init to use the CD kernel instead of the floppy ? |
| 19:14.20 | Jec2 | valdyn yeahh but using squid maybe would work ... but this is annoying. There must be something to clean up correctly so it works |
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| 19:14.28 | Jec2 | I was thinking it might have something to do with dns |
| 19:14.30 | mjunkiexl | I need a developer to answer my question. Have one about specific ways Debian is ran. |
| 19:14.36 | Jec2 | or dhcp cache |
| 19:14.39 | valdyn | Jec2: whats your architecture? |
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| 19:14.57 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: just ask your question already. If it's appropriate for a developer to answer it, I'll answer it. |
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| 19:15.14 | emptty | Just a stupid somehow unrelated question: what's the site archiving every bits of the web on which I could find a site which were online before, but ran offline now? |
| 19:15.14 | mjunkiexl | I am conducting a mini-distro study for standard compliance. How would you rank your distro's compliance on a scale of 0 to 10 for FSH, POSIX, and LSB? Please give details about the pitfalls, "trickeration" to make things work, etc as necessary. Why or why not does your distro implement or abandon each standard? |
| 19:15.33 | greycat | gods save us. |
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| 19:15.46 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: surely you mean FHS, and such a survey of ranking things is totally pointless. |
| 19:15.49 | greycat | I suppose he's going to attempt to write about it for some sort of publication, too. In "english". |
| 19:15.50 | mjunkiexl | lol :P |
| 19:15.50 | sparr | mjunkiexl: wow, IRC is sooo not the place for that |
| 19:15.56 | Jec2 | well linux debian server connecting to internet throush ppp (adsl) |
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| 19:15.58 | mjunkiexl | dondel, yes, FSH |
| 19:16.10 | greycat | mjunkiexl: go sober up. |
| 19:16.13 | Jec2 | and 2 laptops all connected through a switch |
| 19:16.17 | mjunkiexl | errrmmm FHS |
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| 19:16.32 | Jec2 | 2 network cars on the serverone for ppp and other for local lan |
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| 19:16.52 | valdyn | Jec2: for me the problem coincided with switching to debian-amd64 |
| 19:16.53 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: FHS compliance is in policy. LSB compliance can be had by installing the lsb package. posix compliance is a function of the tools that you use, not the actual distribution itself. |
| 19:17.01 | mjunkiexl | sparr I am just curious to see, in general... offhand... where it stands. |
| 19:17.08 | valdyn | Jec2: if you are not using that arch then i can at least exclude that as reason |
| 19:17.13 | Jec2 | I have an athlon too |
| 19:17.17 | Jec2 | 700 Mhz |
| 19:17.19 | emptty | Nobody knows where to find a now offline site? |
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| 19:17.46 | valdyn | Jec2: thats not an amd64 |
| 19:17.54 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: now, if you have more specific questions that you wish to ask, they can be answered, but you're going to have to do a bit of work to formulate useful ones... |
| 19:17.55 | Jec2 | yeap but still amd |
| 19:18.06 | Jec2 | but I dont think its related worked fine for 2 months |
| 19:18.11 | Jec2 | and all suddennly stopped |
| 19:18.14 | valdyn | Jec2: yea, exactly |
| 19:18.19 | dondelelcaro | emptty: google cache, internet wayback archive. |
| 19:18.25 | mjunkiexl | dondel - ok, I'll get right to the core question I'm interested in |
| 19:18.26 | yangxx | valdyn: check #flood |
| 19:18.34 | valdyn | Jec2: try to ping the hosts from server and from broken boxes, you should notice that it reacts differently |
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| 19:18.51 | Jec2 | going to try tracert |
| 19:18.53 | kab | Spark but with Options +Includes or Options +includes give me the same error |
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| 19:19.15 | valdyn | Jec2: once I get no reply, once i get replay from somehost ( filtered ) |
| 19:19.22 | mjunkiexl | Is Debian FHS compliant? Is it viewed as something of importance, in general, by the Debian developers? Does Debian "believe" (so to speak) in the idea of FHS and what it could offer? |
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| 19:19.46 | greycat | mjunkiexl: which answer will make you go away quickest? |
| 19:19.46 | valdyn | Jec2: not sure if traceroute will give you that info, or if windows "ping" will |
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| 19:20.07 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: when the FHS isn't on crack, Debian typically follows it. What Debian is is policy compliant. Our belief or lack of belief in the FHS is immaterial. |
| 19:20.09 | valdyn | yangxx: i read flood , i told you i would try to pass "pci=routeirq" to your kernel |
| 19:20.24 | valdyn | yangxx: if that doesnt work then im out of ideas. |
| 19:20.28 | sparr | Now that I have used the nvidia one-liner, how can I get my nvidia X module up to date to match my nvidia kernel module? |
| 19:20.35 | mjunkiexl | greycat just how arrogant and pompous you could be is a start. |
| 19:20.45 | Jec2 | and what about some mac address cache ? anything like that |
| 19:20.51 | emptty | dondelelcaro: raaah, thanks. I was searching for archive.org. I was googling since more than one hour. It's good to speak to a human sometimes ;) |
| 19:20.52 | yangxx | valdyn: i still think the hdd is broken, that why i will sell it and buy a new one |
| 19:21.06 | mjunkiexl | dondel - thanks. Do you have a offhand estimate for roughly how compliant it is at the moment? |
| 19:21.37 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: if there's a case where it isn't compliant, there's a bug filed against the package in question. Most of the useful stuff is specified with should or must directives in policy anyway. |
| 19:21.42 | mrhemlock | new kernel time to reboot YAY |
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| 19:21.46 | t0mas | hi |
| 19:21.46 | valdyn | Jec2: my gateway was reset, doesnt change a think, i used 2 clients to test this problem, one debian, one windowsxp, doesnt change a thing |
| 19:22.04 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: most of the important packages are, unless the specific tenet of the FHS has been written by monkeys (which happens occasionally) |
| 19:22.38 | dondelelcaro | [conversely, the people who help with the FHS may feel that our opinion on specific matters was written by apes... such is life.] |
| 19:22.50 | mjunkiexl | dondel thanks much |
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| 19:23.26 | t0mas | hm.. I have a debian box... and want to run SSH in a chroot |
| 19:23.29 | t0mas | but it isn't working? |
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| 19:23.41 | Jec2 | tracert works on both non working client box and working client box ... |
| 19:23.44 | valdyn | Jec2: the strange thing is ( to me ), how the hell a router, 5 hops away can react different depending on if the ping packat comes from my gateway or a box behind it |
| 19:23.54 | t0mas | PAM_start() failed |
| 19:23.56 | t0mas | error 25 |
| 19:23.57 | t0mas | eh 26 |
| 19:24.02 | valdyn | Jec2: taht cant have anything to do with MAC |
| 19:24.03 | shadow00 | where are mysql.h files located in debian? |
| 19:24.14 | dondelelcaro | shadow00: in the libmysql-dev package |
| 19:24.14 | mjunkiexl | dondel -- I'm very interested to see if the main Linux players are on the same page on the important standard (FHS)... and whether there is a common goal of having a virtually identical Linux "base" to build off of, for driver support, ease of use and development, etc. |
| 19:24.24 | t0mas | shadow00: /usr/include/mysql/mysql.h |
| 19:24.55 | greycat | mjunkiexl: for whom do you work? |
| 19:24.59 | Jec2 | valdyn guess that depends on how he decides th best way is to get you to your destination ... probably some flow algorithm |
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| 19:25.15 | Jec2 | still in the request debian server is sending something must be wrong |
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| 19:25.32 | mjunkiexl | greycat Steve Ballmer, I'm going to start a study about how Windows has a much lower TCO before quietly accepting his check. :D |
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| 19:25.33 | valdyn | Jec2: nono, there should be no different detectable for that router far away afaik |
| 19:25.43 | valdyn | Jec2: though obviously there is one |
| 19:25.44 | shadow00 | t0mas: I don't see that director..and I also tried locate mysql.h and couldn't find it..is there something else I need to install |
| 19:25.53 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: FHS doesn't really address any of those problems. That's possibly the LSB that you're thinking of, although, even that doesn't totally address tehm. |
| 19:25.55 | t0mas | mysql-dev ? |
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| 19:26.18 | Shadowc4t | anyone seen slow hd performance where hd buffer read is around 3-4 mb/s? |
| 19:26.25 | greycat | Shadowc4t: dmesg is your friend. |
| 19:26.34 | greycat | Shadowc4t: along with loading the module for your motherboard's IDE controller chipset |
| 19:26.45 | Shadowc4t | greycat: hmm what should I be looking for? |
| 19:26.55 | Shadowc4t | hmm... |
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| 19:27.05 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.07 | mjunkiexl | dondel there's a major problem with LSB... the demands of RPM-style software handling. I know, for instance, Gentoo doesn't care about LSB, and thus implements none of it, save by accident |
| 19:27.09 | greycat | that sort of thing for starters. |
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| 19:27.42 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: sure, that's one of the reasons why Debian ignores parts of the specifications at its option. |
| 19:27.59 | mjunkiexl | plus LSB just made itself "optional" to install not too long ago. Hell, the only distro I've seen in ages with an option right in the installer for good LSB compliance is Mandrake. LSB is currently very very VERY weak :( |
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| 19:28.27 | Shadowc4t | greycat: k let me see what's up |
| 19:28.32 | p8m | I thought LSB was mainly for commercial binary software. |
| 19:28.43 | valdyn | mjunkiexl: apt-cache search lsb |
| 19:28.57 | greycat | p8m: that's why I asked him for whom he works. He's spewing marketspeak like a salesman. |
| 19:29.05 | mjunkiexl | sorry valdyn, I don't see lsb anywhere in portage :) |
| 19:29.21 | darkcmd | ewww gentoo |
| 19:29.28 | greycat | !info lsb sarge |
| 19:29.32 | dpkg | lsb: (Linux Standard Base 2.0 support package), section misc, is extra. Version: 2.0-7 (sarge), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 12 kB |
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| 19:30.07 | mjunkiexl | k. This is becoming a pattern. It seems every distro beefs up on a different standard. :( |
| 19:30.13 | valdyn | Jec2: please /msg me if you find a fix for this ) |
| 19:30.17 | shadow00 | t0mas: what package would I find libmysqlwrapped.h in |
| 19:30.29 | darkcmd | mjunkiexl, what do you mean? |
| 19:30.42 | t0mas | shadow00: I have no idea :) |
| 19:30.59 | billyoc | greycat: similar to what you hear non-free kernel driver's complaining about. ;) |
| 19:30.59 | directhex | !find libmysqlwrapped.h |
| 19:31.05 | sparr | Now that I have used the nvidia one-liner, how can I get my nvidia X module up to date to match my nvidia kernel module? |
| 19:31.08 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libmysqlwrapped.h' returned no results. |
| 19:31.10 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: eh? There's only a few standards, and they cover wildly different things |
| 19:31.12 | mjunkiexl | darkcmd -- Gentoo is almost fully FHS compliant, and make a point of being so. It seems Debian is, unless I'm taking this the wrong way, pertty much LSB compliant save the lame LSB rpm demands. |
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| 19:31.41 | darkcmd | !troll mjunkiexl |
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| 19:32.34 | sepski | sparr, /msg dpkg nvidia-howto the link in there explains it |
| 19:32.34 | darkcmd | mjunkiexl, it seems as if you are trolling. |
| 19:32.34 | douglas_ | if I install alsa-sources and want to build them, where does debian put them? |
| 19:32.34 | mjunkiexl | uhhh - so by asking how each distro deals with standards, I'm a troll? |
| 19:32.35 | billyoc | yes |
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| 19:32.35 | douglas_ | for a driver. |
| 19:32.36 | sparr | unstable is sid right? |
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| 19:32.40 | shadow00 | t0mas: its a .h file |
| 19:32.47 | greycat | sparr: yes |
| 19:32.47 | darkcmd | you come in here asking questions about debian, and state how gentoo is this, and gentoo is that... |
| 19:32.59 | darkcmd | <mjunkiexl> sorry valdyn, I don't see lsb anywhere in portage :) |
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| 19:33.15 | douglas_ | Gentoo is good, but Debian is a clear step in the future. |
| 19:33.28 | sparr | lol |
| 19:33.55 | valdyn | mjunkiexl: this is not a "each distro" channel, obviously |
| 19:33.55 | mjunkiexl | Oh for christ's sakes get over the distro hard on. I'm agnostic. I have Fedora, MDK, Slack, and Gentoo on this box just to feel them all out |
| 19:33.55 | sparr | if i was gonna have to do all this anyways, what use is the one-liner? |
| 19:33.55 | messju | shadow00: looks like libmysqlwrapped.h is provided by c++-bindings of mysql |
| 19:33.55 | redduck666 | http://www.pastebin.com/268076 i'm trying to compile kernel. any help appriciated |
| 19:33.56 | ArchitectSinan | hi all |
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| 19:34.07 | darkcmd | mjunkiexl, unfortunately I am not able to get a hard on, I have erectile dysfunction... |
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| 19:34.12 | sepski | sparr, the howto explains how to _use_ the one liner |
| 19:34.20 | shadow00 | messju: where did you find that |
| 19:34.23 | valdyn | mjunkiexl: you mistake channel topic for people's preferences or believes, it has nothing to do with that though |
| 19:34.25 | mjunkiexl | Nice to see you developed humor since my half-hearted joke about portage. |
| 19:34.42 | ArchitectSinan | i need to install PHP 4.3.x. But i couldn't be able to find a .deb ? Do we have or i should have to compile it from source ? |
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| 19:34.48 | shadow00 | messju: coulding find package for c++-bindings |
| 19:34.49 | ArchitectSinan | i prefer .deb |
| 19:35.06 | messju | shadow00: google told me http://www.alhem.net/project/mysql/html/libmysqlwrapped_8h-source.html |
| 19:35.08 | mjunkiexl | all I wanted to know was how debian implements standards. Pardon me if I mentioned Gentoo more than once in the same hour O_o |
| 19:35.40 | sparr | ok |
| 19:35.46 | sparr | running module-assistant |
| 19:35.48 | sparr | again :) |
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| 19:36.09 | darkcmd | I find that Debian adheres to the FHS |
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| 19:36.15 | darkcmd | more than most distributions |
| 19:36.40 | oskie | would you rather burn DVDs at 4x or 16x? there seems to be no way to slow down dvdrecord :/ |
| 19:36.43 | nagual | FagHagSociety? |
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| 19:36.55 | darkcmd | take slackware for example, it still has users mount medium at /mnt, when it should be /media |
| 19:37.00 | sparr | why does module-assistant unpack 3 copies of the same nvidia kernel module? |
| 19:37.15 | mjunkiexl | Is there any sort of cooperation b/t distros to maintain a common standard? |
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| 19:37.36 | mjunkiexl | Ah yes, I've noticed the /mnt /media problem many times :( |
| 19:37.49 | darkcmd | not really |
| 19:38.03 | greycat | oskie: dvdrecord is not supported or recommended. |
| 19:38.05 | shadow00 | anybody know how I can get libmysqlwrapped.h installed? |
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| 19:38.12 | darkcmd | with most distros having their own objectives and goals in mind, most do not use a common standard |
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| 19:38.16 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: that's what the standards are... see http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.1 FE |
| 19:38.21 | oskie | greycat: the what should i use to burn dvds? |
| 19:38.22 | mjunkiexl | Install 5 or 6 distros on your box and be prepared for confusion. I think Fedora puts, for example, httpd.conf in /some/god/awful/nowhere/subdirectory/you/wont/think/of |
| 19:38.24 | greycat | oskie: the basic choices for burning DVDs on Linux are dvd+rw-tools or cdrecord-ProDVD |
| 19:38.37 | greycat | !find growisofs sarge |
| 19:38.39 | ArchitectSinan | another question: If i have to install PHP 4.3.x from the source i learned that I need "APXS" thing. And a friend at #php told me that i should install "apache-dev" package. I installed "apache-dev" from the 3.0r2 distro CDs. But i still don't have the related APXS executeable ? (I run "updatedb" and tried to "locate apxs"). How can I install this APXS thins ? Btw, i asked that in #apache also. And they forward me her |
| 19:38.43 | sparr | why should things be mounted in /media? |
| 19:38.52 | sparr | what is /mnt for if you use /media? |
| 19:38.54 | greycat | ArchitectSinan: it's apxs, lowercase. |
| 19:39.00 | oskie | greycat: i have the iso image. i just need to burn it |
| 19:39.04 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'growisofs' (1): (/usr/bin/growisofs) in utils/dvd+rw-tools. |
| 19:39.04 | ArchitectSinan | ok greycat :) |
| 19:39.07 | mjunkiexl | sparr - the idea is having a standard. So that if you sit down at ANY linux box, your cd rom shows up in the same place |
| 19:39.18 | mjunkiexl | sparr - things like that also make, for example, driver development easier |
| 19:39.22 | mjunkiexl | for people like nVidia |
| 19:39.32 | darkcmd | sparr, : /mnt is used for temporarily mounted filesystems |
| 19:39.34 | greycat | oskie: I don't know how to use dvd+rw-tools because they don't work on hp-ux 10. I've only used cdrecord-ProDVD. |
| 19:39.36 | sparr | mjunkiexl: right. ive used maybe 5 distros over the last 10 years. every single one put mounted stuff in /mnt. who came up with /media? |
| 19:39.39 | darkcmd | "/media is for removeable devices" |
| 19:39.40 | t0mas | Anybody knows something about the openssh version of debian? Or howto setup a good chroot for it? |
| 19:39.48 | oskie | greycat: i doubt growisofs burns by itself |
| 19:39.51 | t0mas | it's quitting now with a pam_start() failed, error 26 |
| 19:39.55 | darkcmd | sparr: the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard |
| 19:40.01 | darkcmd | http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html |
| 19:40.04 | sparr | darkcmd: with your weird rules... where do permanently mounted filesystems go? |
| 19:40.06 | greycat | oskie: it's just one tool in the suite. I wanted the precise package name. |
| 19:40.36 | darkcmd | sparr: they are not wierd.. they are a set of standards, that distros using /mnt have arrogantly decided to ignore |
| 19:40.37 | oskie | dvd+rw-tools is a good name. but it only has these tools: growisofs, dvd+rw-{format,booktype,mediainfo}, dvd-ram-control, rpl8 |
| 19:40.49 | ArchitectSinan | is there anybody who has "apxs" executable installed in their system ? Could you please search it for me ? |
| 19:40.50 | sparr | darkcmd: and what about hot-swappable drives? ive got a USB enclosure for an IDE drive that i can swap out. should that go in /mnt, /media, or / ? |
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| 19:41.08 | darkcmd | is it removeable medium? |
| 19:41.10 | sparr | darkcmd: youre smoking crack. /mnt predates FHS by at least a decade, maybe two. |
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| 19:41.29 | mjunkiexl | Basically, I'm doing a research paper in CS, and I'm VERY interested in how a common standard could be the "breakthrough" for Linux to make substantial gains in the desktop area and beyond |
| 19:41.32 | sparr | darkcmd: yes, its removable. |
| 19:41.34 | darkcmd | sparr, people also used horses for travel, does that mean you should sell your car |
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| 19:42.00 | darkcmd | "/media/nameofdevicehere" |
| 19:42.01 | sparr | darkcmd: there are no hard lines between types of mounts. where does FHS say to put a mounted ISO? |
| 19:42.03 | joebob2000 | is there an rfc limit to the length of a http request line length? |
| 19:42.08 | oskie | greycat: maybe you meant dvdrtools.. that contains 'dvdrecord' |
| 19:42.13 | greycat | no. |
| 19:42.16 | darkcmd | sparr, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MEDIAMOUNTPOINT |
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| 19:42.22 | greycat | cdrecord-ProDVD is non-free software. |
| 19:42.24 | sparr | darkcmd: what if the removable device is my /boot ? |
| 19:42.32 | sparr | darkcmd: should it go in /boot or /media/boot ? |
| 19:42.33 | greycat | it's not packaged in Debian for obvious reasons |
| 19:42.38 | oskie | greycat: yes, and RMS told me not to use non-free |
| 19:42.48 | directhex | !rmssmite oskie |
| 19:42.59 | oskie | haha |
| 19:43.03 | shadow00 | is there a libmysql package for debian? |
| 19:43.05 | billyoc | ArchitectSinan: apache-dev brings apxs |
| 19:43.31 | directhex | !find libmysqlwrapped.h |
| 19:43.35 | greycat | oskie: so use dvd+rw-tools |
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| 19:43.41 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libmysqlwrapped.h' returned no results. |
| 19:43.50 | oskie | greycat: you can't burn with dvd+rw-tools. it has no actual burner program. AFAIK |
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| 19:44.03 | greycat | where do people COME UP with this crap? |
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| 19:44.14 | directhex | growisofs burns fine. |
| 19:44.31 | darkcmd | sparr: there's a reason the users decided to make said standards, so people don't go around doing whatever the fuck they want |
| 19:44.32 | greycat | why the hell would you think it DOESN'T burn?? |
| 19:44.33 | oskie | i guess it uses cdrecord |
| 19:44.36 | binarydigit_ | anyone know whats up with planet.debian.org |
| 19:44.41 | directhex | no, it uses growisofs |
| 19:44.43 | messju | shadow00: libmysqlwrapped.h gets generated when you make http://www.alhem.net/project/mysql/mysqlwrapped-1.4.tar.gz - dunno if there is a deb-package for that one |
| 19:44.44 | dondelelcaro | binarydigit_: it's on gluck |
| 19:44.45 | darkcmd | binarydigit, it's down |
| 19:44.45 | greycat | oskie: put away the crack pipe. |
| 19:44.47 | directhex | read man growisofs |
| 19:44.48 | sparr | darkcmd: if you want to make up new rules that contradict accepted practice, you have to make them useful, and non-ambiguous. FHS is neither in this respect |
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| 19:45.07 | binarydigit_ | ah ok |
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| 19:45.36 | darkcmd | sparr: regardless the FHS organizes things, so people have a somewhat standard filesystem layout |
| 19:45.50 | sparr | darkcmd: if FHS tells me to put my /home in /media/home just because its on a removable medium then its useless and ill continue to ignore it |
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| 19:46.17 | mjunkiexl | dondel - have any more resources along the lines of what we talked about? Links and whatnot? I already have the main FHS link... but if there is a written Debian guideline for developers out the web somewhere.. |
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| 19:46.34 | darkcmd | sparr, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#HOMEUSERHOMEDIRECTORIES |
| 19:46.37 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: what I just gave you is policy. That's what Debian actually follows. |
| 19:46.52 | dondelelcaro | mjunkiexl: if you really want to know how Debian works, read that from beginning to end. |
| 19:46.57 | shadow00 | inviso: I install all libmysql packages and still I get this libmysqlwrapped.h: No such file or directory |
| 19:47.00 | darkcmd | sparr: if its your home directory partition, then it doesn't get mounted under /media, because it is for home directories |
| 19:47.04 | darkcmd | so it does go in /home |
| 19:47.06 | messju | :) |
| 19:47.17 | Daz | im trying to use the remote control thing on debian on my xbox, but i get an error saying, 'KDE3 command not found' can anyone help? |
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| 19:47.20 | sparr | darkcmd: thats not what the FHS says :-p |
| 19:47.23 | mjunkiexl | dondel - k - thanks |
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| 19:47.31 | darkcmd | it can go wherever you want.. hence |
| 19:47.33 | smartbhai | hey why do certain channels require keywords |
| 19:47.41 | smartbhai | how to connect to those channels |
| 19:47.42 | darkcmd | you have the right to put it wherever |
| 19:47.42 | delire | any idea why 'xev' and 'showkeys' would give different keycodes for the same key? |
| 19:47.44 | sparr | FHS says /home is optional, and /media is not optional. |
| 19:47.47 | Ronin | smartbhai: keep the riff raff out of them is why |
| 19:48.12 | directhex | growisofs was originally designed as a frontend to mkisofs to facilitate appending of data to ISO9660 volumes residing on random-access media such as DVD+RW, DVD-RAM, plain files, hard disk partitions. In the course of development general purpose DVD recording support was implemented, and as of now growisofs supports not only random-access media, but even mastering of multi-session DVD media such as DVD+R and DVD-R/-RW. In addition growisofs suppor |
| 19:48.12 | directhex | ts first-/single-session recording of arbitrary pre-mastered image (formatted as UDF, ISO9660 or any other file system, if formatted at all) to all supported DVD media types. |
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| 19:48.16 | smartbhai | ronin : i dint really get u |
| 19:48.17 | messju | shadow00: again: libmysqlwrapped.h is part of http://www.alhem.net/project/mysql/mysqlwrapped-1.4.tar.gz |
| 19:48.19 | sparr | my *ROOT* is on a removable medium. so i guess it needs to go in /media too... but where would /media be then? :) |
| 19:48.41 | HeavyD | which program do you use for RPM package installation in Deb (sarge)? |
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| 19:48.49 | darkcmd | no it doesn't its your root partition |
| 19:48.52 | darkcmd | so it goes under / |
| 19:48.55 | directhex | HeavyD, you convert to tgz with alien, then extract to /opt |
| 19:48.56 | darxeth | i just dont know what to do with myself... yohoo... |
| 19:48.56 | dondelelcaro | HeavyD: alien |
| 19:48.56 | Ronin | smartbhai: they only want certain folks in, you dont know the key you dont get in |
| 19:48.59 | messju | HeavyD: i think alien does this |
| 19:49.02 | sparr | darkcmd: you just contradicted the FHS |
| 19:49.04 | darxeth | i just dont know what to do with my samba!! |
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| 19:49.23 | smartbhai | ronin : i got u |
| 19:49.30 | darxeth | i'll kill myself if i opened the computer tomorow and see samba works |
| 19:49.33 | smartbhai | ronin : thanx |
| 19:49.36 | darkcmd | sparr: its common sence that your root partition would go under /, rather than /media |
| 19:49.36 | HeavyD | directhex: How do I install alien? |
| 19:49.40 | darkcmd | arguing on the internet is like sticking my penis in a meat grinder, its pointless and painfull |
| 19:49.44 | darkcmd | anyway I'm ount |
| 19:49.46 | sepski | sparr, _you_ dont have to bee FHS compliant, its just a way to keep things somewhat identical across distros, what _you_ do is irrelevant in all of this |
| 19:49.47 | oskie | how do you specify buffer size for growisofs? i need at least 128MB! |
| 19:49.58 | darkcmd | out |
| 19:50.08 | delire | darkcmd: hmm |
| 19:50.10 | directhex | HeavyD, apt-get install alien. what exactly are you installing from rpm? |
| 19:50.24 | directhex | oskie, read the man page |
| 19:50.28 | HeavyD | directhex: Ati fglrx drivers\ |
| 19:50.32 | HeavyD | *. |
| 19:50.38 | directhex | HeavyD, stop now, before it's too late |
| 19:50.43 | oskie | directhex: i did |
| 19:50.44 | directhex | HeavyD, google for "flavio ati" |
| 19:50.55 | directhex | HeavyD, follow those instructions TO THE LETTER |
| 19:50.59 | HeavyD | directhex: Flavio ati? |
| 19:51.00 | HeavyD | got it |
| 19:51.01 | HeavyD | thanks |
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| 19:51.10 | sparr | sepski: its a situation that makes the FHS ambiguous. as long as it is, in addition to contradicting 20 years of perfectly useful arrangement |
| 19:51.21 | sparr | then its not useful |
| 19:51.38 | darkcmd | 20 years ago, people did whatever they wanted |
| 19:51.41 | darkcmd | there was no standard |
| 19:51.51 | darkcmd | hence sometimes you see bsds using /usr/home rather than /home |
| 19:51.54 | HeavyD | directhex: the title of the page is "ATI Linux driver packages for Debian" Correct? |
| 19:51.58 | greycat | The best thing about standards is that there are so *many* of them from which to choose! |
| 19:52.01 | sparr | 10 years ago then |
| 19:52.06 | sparr | you mount things in /mnt |
| 19:52.08 | sparr | period |
| 19:52.09 | directhex | HeavyD, does that SOUND correct? |
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| 19:52.16 | sparr | thats what mnt stands for |
| 19:52.22 | greycat | sparr: controversy: /mnt or /mnt/* ? |
| 19:52.32 | sparr | greycat: i dont care :) |
| 19:52.34 | sepski | sparr, it's useful for thirdparties to not have to handle several wild ways of laying out the filesysteem |
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| 19:52.56 | sparr | im having to deal with the /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom0 /media/cdrom /cdrom debacle right now |
| 19:53.04 | sparr | i would love to send a standard back in time about 10 years |
| 19:53.05 | sparr | but i cant |
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| 19:53.25 | sparr | greycat: where do you mount CDs? and USB drives? and ISOs? |
| 19:53.45 | greycat | sparr: /cdrom, /mnt, and /mnt respectively. Normally. Depends on the system. |
| 19:53.56 | sparr | messju: /mnt/tmp is where i keep loopback mounts :) |
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| 19:54.14 | greycat | sparr: on some systems I have a special directory set up for USB mass storage devices. |
| 19:54.15 | messju | sparr: yes, me too, and other scratch/test stuff |
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| 19:54.51 | sparr | hooray, X is working! |
| 19:54.59 | Daz | where exactly can i find a download for KDE3 from? i cant find any alive download links |
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| 19:55.15 | directhex | Daz, erm... kde 3.3 is in debian |
| 19:55.21 | Daz | oh |
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| 19:56.02 | sparr | the last few steps of the nvidia howto should get added to the nvidia one-liner |
| 19:56.05 | sparr | would make it perfect |
| 19:56.14 | Daz | im running it on my xbox but it says KDE3 not found whenever i type KDE3&into the command line, im using that remote thing |
| 19:56.16 | directhex | there's a limit to factoid length |
| 19:56.30 | directhex | Daz, xebian is not supported here |
| 19:56.36 | Daz | oh ok |
| 19:56.39 | sparr | i know, but you can make it more efficient :) |
| 19:57.05 | directhex | sparr, not without losing information |
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| 19:57.19 | edon | which package has the locale files for gnome? |
| 19:57.26 | sparr | the comments at the end could be relegated to their own factoid |
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| 19:58.08 | edon | nobody knows? |
| 19:58.25 | sepski | sparr, people should read the howtoo, not depend entierly on the one-liner. they learn a lot more from that |
| 19:58.28 | directhex | sparr, nobody reads them as it is, moving them away would make things worse |
| 19:58.39 | sparr | heh, i read the howto last time |
| 19:58.41 | sparr | didnt work |
| 19:58.50 | Vladi | hi, trying to set up pppoE and wodering what to do compile the 2.6.11 kernel module or use the pppoe package that sarge has can somone please help? |
| 19:59.04 | sparr | X is working again now |
| 19:59.12 | sparr | time to move over to a gui client |
| 19:59.54 | greycat | silly sparr. irssi inside screen ownz j00. |
| 20:00.52 | directhex | !1337 |
| 20:00.52 | dpkg | well, 1337 is lamer talk for cool,, or shitkitty talk, or http://www.googlism.com/where_is/1/1337/ |
| 20:00.57 | douglas_ | I installed alsa and made a module for my kernel, but oss is in there, how do I remove oss and put in alsa? do I have to recompile the kernel or can I just rmmod the oss module and modprobe the alsa one? |
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| 20:01.30 | directhex | douglas_, if you installed the alsa-base package and rebooted, it should have been done for you. assuming you use hotplug/discover and not weirdness like modconf |
| 20:01.53 | tarzeau | I installed fish in my aqauarium, and now they are on the top of the water belly up. should i use a fork or a knife to take them out the water? |
| 20:02.07 | billyoc | rofl |
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| 20:02.13 | douglas_ | ok, be back if I need more help! |
| 20:02.53 | sparr_ | hmm... X caught sig11 and closed. lets hope that was a one time glitch |
| 20:03.07 | tarzeau | sparr_: which driver? |
| 20:03.11 | greycat | sparr_: it's a sign from Dog. You're supposed to be running irssi inside screen. |
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| 20:03.30 | tarzeau | run as much things as possible in screen! |
| 20:03.38 | Raenius | What's the easiest way to disable a service from startup. |
| 20:03.43 | greycat | Raenius: apt-get remove |
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| 20:04.07 | Raenius | greycat: that doesn't remove the package right... |
| 20:04.09 | tarzeau | greycat: i guess he wants to start some service when he needs it (and he has no internet where he is) |
| 20:04.13 | greycat | Raenius: of course it does. |
| 20:04.13 | tarzeau | Raenius: yes it does |
| 20:04.19 | tarzeau | Raenius: you want to read /etc/init.d/ |
| 20:04.19 | sparr_ | i had to spend most of my earlier years in linux under various terminal emulators that couldnt handle random keys and key combinations, so things like screen never worked for me. maybe ill try it out again eventually. |
| 20:04.20 | greycat | why would you want to leave it installed if you don't use it? |
| 20:04.38 | sparr_ | greycat: so you can use it when you need it |
| 20:04.39 | tarzeau | greycat: i run dancer-ircd at some parties without internet |
| 20:04.49 | Raenius | It's something I don't want running all the time but would like to start it from type to time. Ie apache on personal computer |
| 20:04.55 | tarzeau | since that's very seldom, i have the startup link removed |
| 20:04.58 | shadow00 | where can I get libcgi++? |
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| 20:05.00 | Raenius | type->time :) |
| 20:05.00 | HeavyD | Im trying to install the Kernel source ... and when I put "apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27" like i'm instructed... it says it is "not available, but is referred to by another package".. what should I do? |
| 20:05.07 | tarzeau | shadow00: apt-cache search or packages.debian.org |
| 20:06.15 | tarzeau | HeavyD: apt-get update ? |
| 20:06.29 | tarzeau | HeavyD: and get a later version of a 2.4 linux kernel |
| 20:06.34 | tarzeau | HeavyD: (but they all suck!) |
| 20:06.35 | xiaogil | Where can I find a free cd burner software for Windows XP, for a friend who wants to burn a cd image of Debian ? |
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| 20:06.42 | tarzeau | xiaogil: cdrecord |
| 20:07.04 | directhex | xiaogil, burnatonce.com |
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| 20:07.37 | HeavyD | tarzeau: I thought Sarge was supposed to come with the 2.6 kernel.. but by default it installed the 2.4.27? What is with that? |
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| 20:07.54 | tarzeau | HeavyD: sarge doesn't come on cd, yet |
| 20:07.54 | greycat | !punish sftp for not showing the TARGET of a symlink |
| 20:07.59 | tarzeau | HeavyD: because it's not released |
| 20:07.59 | directhex | HeavyD, normal for debian to offer 2 kernels. 2.4.27 default, 2.6.8 as pre or post install optionm |
| 20:08.06 | greycat | 16:08 Ignoring MSGS from LoonaTick* |
| 20:08.09 | tarzeau | directhex: will it be these two? i doubt |
| 20:08.11 | Aaton | xiaogil: check this out for WinXP .. http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm |
| 20:08.13 | greycat | 16:08 Ignoring MSGS NOTICES from LoonaTick* |
| 20:08.28 | directhex | tarzeau, the kernel versions are frozen. |
| 20:08.39 | tarzeau | directhex: but they are all the same for all archs? |
| 20:08.57 | directhex | tarzeau, some arches will only be installable with 2.6 |
| 20:10.05 | shadow00 | im looking for the package that contains this.. libcgi++.h |
| 20:10.20 | valdyn_ | !tell shadow00 about search |
| 20:10.21 | greycat | shadow00: /msg dpkg search |
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| 20:10.31 | greycat | (note that p.d.o is moved, and available again) |
| 20:12.20 | shadow00 | greycat: does it take a while to return something |
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| 20:14.22 | toresbe | how do you run regexps on factoids? |
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| 20:14.34 | toresbe | The rmssmite factoid is wrong |
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| 20:15.04 | toresbe | RMS had nothing to do with the PDP-7 - He did, however, use the PDP-10 quite a lot at MIT |
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| 20:15.11 | HeavyD | tarzeau: Sorry. i'm a little confused on what to do.. if I want to be able to install the kernel sources.. you said to update.. what full command would I use to update? |
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| 20:15.23 | toresbe | So the -10 would be the correct machine to tie $who to |
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| 20:15.53 | shaevtek | Hi |
| 20:16.25 | mrhemlock | toresbe, also called finger |
| 20:16.27 | karnov | someone knows something about kerberos (auth between linux and 2000 server) ? |
| 20:16.41 | toresbe | mrhemlock: ...huh? |
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| 20:17.18 | toresbe | mrhemlock: does not compute, please elaborate :P |
| 20:17.40 | mrhemlock | toresbe, who was at&t unix i rember finger was tops10 |
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| 20:17.44 | nette | hi |
| 20:17.53 | shaevtek | Does anybody know how to configure keyboard to Finnish language in console |
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| 20:18.00 | FromTO | does anyone know whether there are any OCR recognition software that work with pdf documents. (other than acrobat professional) |
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| 20:18.17 | shaevtek | It works in X. |
| 20:18.31 | mrhemlock | toresbe, you could finger someone @host, who only did local users |
| 20:18.32 | oskie | wtf - no wonder dvdrecord was behaving funny. the version in unstable is VERY old. |
| 20:18.40 | oskie | s/funny/funnily |
| 20:19.04 | shaevtek | keyboard is not configured correctly in console. |
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| 20:19.30 | tarzeau | HeavyD: apt-get update |
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| 20:19.44 | tarzeau | shaevtek: using loadkeys maybe fi |
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| 20:20.00 | mrhemlock | toresbe, did that help ? |
| 20:20.18 | shaevtek | tarzeau: I did, but not working. |
| 20:20.26 | tarzeau | shaevtek: the command doesn't work? |
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| 20:20.32 | tarzeau | shaevtek: you don't have debian! |
| 20:20.39 | shingouz | shaevtek: latin1-fi (the same as the swedish keyboard) |
| 20:20.48 | shaevtek | I am in debian. |
| 20:20.55 | shaevtek | shingouz: yes |
| 20:20.57 | tarzeau | shaevtek: awww loadkeys, thought apt-get update ... |
| 20:21.07 | shingouz | (...or was it fi-latin1... cant remember) |
| 20:21.27 | shaevtek | tarzeau: apt-get update what? |
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| 20:21.32 | tarzeau | shaevtek: apt-get update |
| 20:21.40 | shaevtek | It is updated. |
| 20:21.42 | tarzeau | shaevtek: not you, but HeavyD |
| 20:21.46 | ryan_ | what requirement does make menuconfig have? what lib file? |
| 20:22.01 | tarzeau | ryan_: ncurses library |
| 20:22.07 | nette | if I "hold" a package I'm sure it will be never update? |
| 20:22.09 | tarzeau | ryan_: it's not a file, it's a library |
| 20:22.26 | ryan_ | thanks tarzeau |
| 20:22.34 | shingouz | ryan_: libncurses5 if i recall it correctly |
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| 20:23.33 | ryan_ | shingouz, I already have the newest version |
| 20:23.37 | greycat | !faq ryan_ |
| 20:23.37 | dpkg | ryan_: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 20:25.09 | Mash | bye |
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| 20:27.10 | maja | how do i mount a freebsd partion ? |
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| 20:28.24 | tkinias | maja, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Linux+FreeBSD.html#ss5.1 has instructions (I've never done this though) |
| 20:29.41 | sparr_ | how big is a debian repository for unstable, contrib, non-free? no source. |
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| 20:31.01 | maja | tkinias: ta, but my kernel is not supporting ufs |
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| 20:32.12 | maja | any way to fix with out recompiling ? |
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| 20:33.39 | tkinias | maja, if you don't have the right filesystem driver you need to recompile (I've had this problem when I forgot to enable vfat in a kernel once...) |
| 20:33.53 | ZyX | how do i disable the interactive shell for a user (i dont want him to be able to do commands, its just about the ssh-tunnel) ? |
| 20:34.16 | Flimzy | ZyX: That's likely not possible |
| 20:34.26 | maja | tkinias: ta |
| 20:34.26 | jethro | Flimzy: it *is* possible |
| 20:34.33 | Flimzy | ZyX: It's certianly not _easy_ |
| 20:34.49 | Flimzy | jethro: Okay, then you answer his question :) |
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| 20:35.03 | Flimzy | jethro: It'll probably be easy to circumvent whatever measures are put in place to prevent shell access if shh access is allowed. |
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| 20:35.10 | ZyX | can't i just give him a dummy shell that does sleep in a endless loop? |
| 20:35.11 | jethro | ZyX: use ssh key options and force a command to be ran, like a sleep, or whatever, you'll need to use pubkey authentication iirc |
| 20:35.21 | greycat | ZyX: rssh |
| 20:35.23 | greycat | ZyX: google it :) |
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| 20:35.32 | greycat | !rssh |
| 20:35.32 | dpkg | [rssh] a restricted shell for use with OpenSSH, allowing only scp and/or sftp, at <www.pizzashack.org/rssh/index.shtml>. |
| 20:35.34 | greycat | (or dpkg it) |
| 20:35.34 | FieldySnuts | postmaaaan!! |
| 20:35.45 | FieldySnuts | rssh is nice i use it here |
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| 20:35.54 | ZyX | oh cool, thats what i was looking for |
| 20:36.23 | glick | excuse me does anyone know why i get this error when i try to do make menuconfig in the kernel source? |
| 20:36.26 | glick | ' invalid for LOG_BUF_SHIFT4 |
| 20:36.26 | glick | make[1]: *** [menuconfig] Error 1 |
| 20:36.26 | glick | make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2 |
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| 20:38.10 | bazz | as the second to last line in my .xinitrc, right before enlightenment, i have 'xset b off' but my bell still goes off until i open a terminal and enter it there. what could be enabling it over my .xinit command? |
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| 20:38.43 | green_earz | hi all there is another fdisk tool but i for got whats its called any pointer plaese |
| 20:38.50 | maja | tkinias: dont fell like pointing me to a nice howto |
| 20:38.59 | maja | my seach strings are not good tonite :( |
| 20:39.21 | try_catch_this | what opens postscript files? |
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| 20:39.35 | Drifter|work | kija pplz |
| 20:39.48 | yoh_ | imahcine: what did you mean by http:us? |
| 20:39.57 | tkinias | maja, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Linux+FreeBSD.html is the only thing I know of -- and it's pretty old :( |
| 20:40.03 | dondelelcaro | try_catch_this: gv |
| 20:40.04 | imahcine | yoh_, hehehheheehhhe LOL. mystery of irc. |
| 20:40.28 | dondelelcaro | green_earz: cfdisk, pfdisk, the list goes on. |
| 20:40.33 | imahcine | yoh_, i meant another nick actually. stupid complete. sorry about the fuss. |
| 20:40.41 | maja | tkinias: thanks but i ment to recompile debian |
| 20:40.51 | maja | i am sure i am just being stupid |
| 20:40.58 | imahcine | yoh_, im used to irssi complete, but i have this crappy xchat now. which is well not so really crappy, but not irssi either ;] |
| 20:41.01 | yoh_ | imahcine, o - that is fine :-) |
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| 20:41.24 | imahcine | yoh_, ah the nose in smile - i see i speak to someone who is mostly above, or could be as such concidered ;) |
| 20:41.39 | maja | ja never mind sorry for clutering up list |
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| 20:42.23 | tkinias | maja, make sure you have make-kpkg installed and check out the man page... |
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| 20:43.08 | outlier | Does Debian store file associations somewhere, or is that left to the individual apps to launch each other? |
| 20:43.27 | green_earz | dondelelcaro: thanks for that its cfdisk i am after |
| 20:43.32 | grendal_prime | hey how would i go about running the xconfig again? |
| 20:43.35 | maja | tkinias: nope grr this defalut install is pritly lame |
| 20:43.41 | grendal_prime | apt-config xfree86 ? |
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| 20:45.10 | tkinias | maja, sorry -- the package name is 'kernel-package'; apt-get it before you try to do a kernel |
| 20:45.11 | shadowarts | hi, can i use 'mail -s' to send mail using a smtp server (like my isp's) |
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| 20:46.10 | MarcinKra | grendal_prime dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:46.17 | clojster | someone who runs Vmware on 2.6.8 kernel? |
| 20:46.44 | grendal_prime | ya i got it thanks |
| 20:46.57 | grendal_prime | anyone using radion 9200 |
| 20:47.14 | maja | any one know a aptget mirror in south africa ? |
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| 20:47.32 | maja | p |
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| 20:48.21 | grendal_prime | i need to input a bus identifyier? |
| 20:48.26 | maja | any one know why my install cd wont mount on the system it installed ? |
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| 20:50.31 | xiaogil | usb wifi adaptators work on debian ? |
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| 20:50.49 | synic | xiaogil: depends |
| 20:50.54 | xiaogil | Mentor - Adaptateur USB Wifi - 54 Mbps - 802.11g |
| 20:50.55 | xiaogil | ? |
| 20:51.11 | mentor | stupid nick complete? |
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| 20:51.38 | xiaogil | sorry mentor, that's the name of the card |
| 20:51.55 | mentor | heh. cool. |
| 20:52.02 | xiaogil | synic: it depends on what ? |
| 20:52.22 | synic | xiaogil: the chipset |
| 20:52.28 | martin_ | in all my gtk+-1.2 applications (dillo, xmms, ...) the fonts are very small and ugly. how can i fix this? |
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| 20:52.57 | sobersabre | hi guys |
| 20:52.59 | synic | martin_: you might be able to accomplish something with gtk-theme-switch (it has a font section) |
| 20:53.11 | sobersabre | is gprof a good profiler ? |
| 20:53.20 | glick | excuse me im runnin on a dell inspiron 8200 and I was wondering if i should use ACPI or APM for power management. I like auto poweroff and suspend to disk features |
| 20:53.46 | martin_ | synic, what do you mean with gth-theme-switch? |
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| 20:54.28 | shadowarts | why does My APT have Super Cow Powers ?!? lol |
| 20:54.30 | dut | Hi! How do you think, this is good idea to use UTF-8 on regional debian channel? |
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| 20:55.06 | abrotman | Dut: english? |
| 20:55.10 | synic | martin_: install it, type switch, and you can change the gtk font |
| 20:55.14 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethro |
| 20:55.23 | abrotman | glick: probably acpi .. dunno about suspend stuff |
| 20:55.26 | dut | abrotman: no, russian |
| 20:55.33 | abrotman | glick: it's a fairly recent laptop right? |
| 20:55.34 | xange | how do i make it so i don't have to modprobe the driver for my NIC card everytime i restart? |
| 20:55.34 | abrotman | !russion |
| 20:55.36 | abrotman | !russian |
| 20:55.37 | dpkg | somebody said russian was Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 20:55.41 | abrotman | eep |
| 20:55.45 | jethro | CyBeR_GeeK: yes? |
| 20:56.36 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethro pensei que foce vc que estava aqui a noite |
| 20:56.44 | abrotman | holy mother of god |
| 20:56.51 | abrotman | no espanol aqui |
| 20:56.53 | shadowarts | ok anyone know how to configure mail so i can use it like thunderbrid (kind of) (i need the command line) |
| 20:57.03 | jethro | CyBeR_GeeK: I don't understand that |
| 20:57.05 | abrotman | that doesn't make sense either |
| 20:57.11 | abrotman | where did all the logical people go? |
| 20:57.16 | abrotman | !crazy |
| 20:57.17 | dpkg | you so cuhraaazy, abrotman |
| 20:57.22 | xam | !moo |
| 20:57.22 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. |
| 20:57.27 | CyBeR_GeeK | jethro speak portugues ? |
| 20:57.31 | sobersabre | jethro: nao portuguese, |
| 20:57.33 | jethro | not at all |
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| 20:57.35 | abrotman | !br |
| 20:57.35 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 20:57.36 | jethro | !br |
| 20:57.46 | CyBeR_GeeK | udauhaduhduhduhdauhhdauhaduadhud |
| 20:57.49 | jethro | obrigado, that's all I know |
| 20:57.54 | sobersabre | :) |
| 20:58.46 | darxeth | i really need help in setting up samba :( |
| 20:58.55 | abrotman | !sa,ba |
| 20:58.58 | abrotman | !samba |
| 20:58.58 | dpkg | well, samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba |
| 20:59.06 | abrotman | someone moved half my keyboard! |
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| 20:59.24 | sobersabre | abrotman: where to ? |
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| 20:59.35 | abrotman | sobersabre: one spot to the left |
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| 21:00.12 | abrotman | !be a home key barbie |
| 21:00.13 | dpkg | awwww, home key is so HARD. Let's go shopping. |
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| 21:00.26 | hcy | hi, is there a way I can see which files get put where when I install something with apt-get? |
| 21:00.36 | abrotman | hcy: man dpkg |
| 21:00.57 | abrotman | hcy: after it has been installed .. apt-file might work before you install it(never tried) |
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| 21:01.28 | hcy | ok |
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| 21:01.34 | darxeth | hcy: dpkg -L [package name] |
| 21:01.36 | darxeth | :D |
| 21:01.43 | hcy | thanks |
| 21:01.52 | veleno | anyone can help me uncompressing a .sit.hqx ?? |
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| 21:01.57 | darxeth | finally i helped the society |
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| 21:03.02 | abrotman | darxeth: not really .. he should read the man page |
| 21:03.08 | abrotman | !hqx |
| 21:03.13 | abrotman | veleno: isn't that a mac file? |
| 21:03.41 | streuner | it is |
| 21:03.53 | directhex | abrotman, stuffit expander, a compression app popular on macos 8- |
| 21:04.11 | abrotman | lazy mac people .. use zip/gzip like the rest of the world .. jeez |
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| 21:04.32 | tarzeau | they have .dmg now |
| 21:04.32 | directhex | macos 10 uses .dmg for distribution usually |
| 21:04.32 | darxeth | abrotman: dpkg -L is a small phrase |
| 21:04.36 | streuner | a bitch, you rarely find a linux app which can handle that... |
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| 21:05.10 | abrotman | darxeth: so is `man dpkg` :) |
| 21:05.20 | cell | attention person in this channel who flammed me about 8 months ago for bitching about the fact that the nubus-pmac.sf.net people only made their stuff available via bitkeeper: FUCK YOU!!! |
| 21:05.28 | streuner | !tell CyBeR_GeeK está about away |
| 21:05.38 | tarzeau | 8 months ago yeah? |
| 21:05.47 | tarzeau | cell: ask sussudio to run a grep on his logs |
| 21:05.50 | streuner | !tell CyBeR_GeeK about away |
| 21:05.51 | abrotman | cell: is that all? |
| 21:06.04 | drac | !congratulate directhex |
| 21:06.05 | dpkg | Hugs & Puppies directhex, you did it! |
| 21:06.06 | cell | that is all. just had to get it off my chest. |
| 21:06.09 | tarzeau | directhex: for i386?~ |
| 21:06.15 | abrotman | i'm confused why cell is even saying that |
| 21:06.19 | directhex | tarzeau, yeah, i left my rc2 cd in the office |
| 21:06.28 | abrotman | is he saying it's good or bad? |
| 21:06.33 | directhex | abrotman, beer free bitkeeper client discontinued |
| 21:06.38 | cell | abrotman: no more free version of bitkeeper for linux. check slashdot. |
| 21:06.42 | abrotman | directhex: i know .. i don't see why cell is complaining |
| 21:06.46 | abrotman | cell: i know this .. so what? |
| 21:06.48 | tarzeau | beer free sucks anyways |
| 21:06.50 | abrotman | use arch |
| 21:06.54 | abrotman | use anything |
| 21:06.58 | abrotman | well . not rcs :) |
| 21:07.09 | streuner | tarzeau: so you prefer wine? |
| 21:07.23 | tarzeau | streuner: white wine in summer, red wine in winter |
| 21:07.46 | foolip | I've gotten myself a P4 processor with hyperthreading. Should I install a SMP kernel to make it utilize this, or are there special HT kernels? |
| 21:07.57 | knix | tarzeau, nooooo |
| 21:08.05 | tarzeau | knix: yermom |
| 21:08.08 | knix | heh |
| 21:08.09 | cell | abrotman: it's silly, but I was complaining that the nubus-pmac people decided to not release in any way other than bitkeeper (ie, not even a tarball), and some guy in this channel got on my case about it. |
| 21:08.12 | knix | yermom isn't in here >:F |
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| 21:08.16 | tarzeau | knix: bring her! |
| 21:08.17 | knix | Red wine all the time >:P |
| 21:08.22 | knix | She isn't even on this network |
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| 21:08.25 | tarzeau | knix: unless you eat fish? |
| 21:08.28 | knix | haha |
| 21:08.30 | tarzeau | knix: bring her please! |
| 21:08.34 | knix | pfft |
| 21:08.35 | knix | ok |
| 21:08.44 | directhex | foolip, smp kernel. |
| 21:09.08 | directhex | foolip, 2.4 smp kernels behave like real smp, 2.6 smp kernels are a little more aware of what ht actually means |
| 21:09.32 | locsmif | Hi. Does anybody know how to disable the (imho worthless) auth authentication that an openSSH server performs, or _must_ I recompile it without tcp wrapper support.. |
| 21:09.49 | foolip | directhex: ok, thanks |
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| 21:10.02 | martin_ | synic, in fact that doesn't help. |
| 21:10.07 | abrotman | cell: i agree with you .. i think arch works just fine .. but every VCS has its issues |
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| 21:10.25 | synic | martin_: sucks. |
| 21:10.28 | abrotman | bitkeeper is closed source and at larry mccvoys discretion for free liceneses |
| 21:10.34 | synic | martin_: I just avoid the evil gtk1 apps |
| 21:10.44 | tarzeau | synic: gtk2 is no less evil |
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| 21:10.52 | martin_ | synic, but on my laptop i would prefer to use dillo. |
| 21:10.59 | synic | tarzeau: but it is less ugly |
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| 21:11.07 | tarzeau | abrotman: what next? qt will be no more free either? |
| 21:11.15 | tarzeau | synic: i think it is more ugly |
| 21:11.16 | abrotman | tarzeau: i hope so |
| 21:11.21 | tarzeau | abrotman: me too ;) |
| 21:11.28 | tarzeau | abrotman: we could save quite some space in debian main |
| 21:11.28 | abrotman | tarzeau: harmony++ :) |
| 21:11.33 | synic | tarzeau: wow, haven't ever heard that one |
| 21:11.38 | abrotman | tarzeau: and kill off a lot of idiots :) |
| 21:11.41 | tarzeau | abrotman: as long as you don't want to sleep with me |
| 21:11.57 | abrotman | tarzeau: erm .. you're in switzerland right ... kind of hard :) |
| 21:12.15 | tarzeau | synic: www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/gnustep.jpg beautiful! |
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| 21:12.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: yeah. what's so hard about being in switzerland? |
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| 21:12.33 | abrotman | tarzeau: i'm not? |
| 21:12.36 | synic | tarzeau: ah, I see - you're one of those objective-c fellahs |
| 21:12.39 | tarzeau | abrotman: you'd like to? |
| 21:12.41 | synic | tarzeau: do you own a mac too? |
| 21:12.49 | abrotman | some day i will understand how tarzeau works in that environment :) |
| 21:12.54 | tarzeau | synic: g3 only (ibook), yes it runs linux/gnustep |
| 21:13.10 | synic | objective-c is whack. |
| 21:13.16 | synic | I kinda dig it, though. |
| 21:13.22 | abrotman | it's nto objective c is it? |
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| 21:13.28 | abrotman | i thought gnustep wasn't |
| 21:13.35 | streuner | abrotman: if you would know under which bad influence he is already... ;-) |
| 21:13.39 | tarzeau | abrotman: gnustep is |
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| 21:13.52 | tarzeau | streuner: bad influence, me? |
| 21:13.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: hrm .. i must be thinking of something else that's insane .. oh yeah .. kde is c++ :) |
| 21:14.01 | t0mas | eh... |
| 21:14.06 | t0mas | I'm building a chroot |
| 21:14.08 | t0mas | sbin/sshd: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /lib/libpam.so.0) |
| 21:14.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: c++ makes me puke blood |
| 21:14.12 | streuner | tarzeau: you regret 'free beer'...? |
| 21:14.12 | t0mas | and getting this error |
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| 21:14.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: you need a doctor :) |
| 21:14.19 | tarzeau | t0mas: stable? |
| 21:14.20 | t0mas | anybody has an idea what's wrong? |
| 21:14.25 | t0mas | tarzeau: yes |
| 21:14.28 | tarzeau | abrotman: if she's female, fine for me |
| 21:14.37 | abrotman | tarzeau: and she's 60? |
| 21:14.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: wait can i choose the doctor? i know a nice one already... |
| 21:14.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: no around 35 |
| 21:14.50 | abrotman | tarzeau: erm .. ok |
| 21:14.52 | tarzeau | abrotman: you'd like her too! |
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| 21:15.25 | tarzeau | t0mas: well stable has glibc 2.2 , not 2.3 |
| 21:15.37 | t0mas | yeah, but that sshd is from stable too |
| 21:15.41 | t0mas | and afaik libpam too |
| 21:15.50 | abrotman | yeah right .. cause who would want a Date Function section in the pgsql manual |
| 21:15.56 | t0mas | it's working on the real system... but it isn't in the chroot |
| 21:15.58 | abrotman | ah .. i found it |
| 21:16.06 | tarzeau | streuner: regret? |
| 21:16.18 | streuner | tarzeau: ablehnen |
| 21:16.19 | tarzeau | streuner: i don't like beer, i can perfectly avoid the beer and get right into the bed |
| 21:16.21 | locsmif | Aanybody know how to disable auth in openSSH? |
| 21:16.29 | tarzeau | streuner: sure, if it works without ;) |
| 21:17.23 | jethro | locsmif: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:17.43 | tarzeau | streuner: i can drink beer, later |
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| 21:18.51 | ArchitectSinan | billyoc: i installed apache-dev but i didn't see a "apxs" executable in anywhere ? |
| 21:19.24 | locsmif | jethro, openSSH tries to verify the client connecting by accessing port 113 on that client (auth daemon). the client (XP SP2) has a firewall, that I don't want to shutdown, nor do I want to allow TCP port 113 as an exception. The auth verification from the server causes a ten sec. delay. |
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| 21:20.00 | locsmif | (since the client DROP's and doesn't reject the packet with tcp-reset) |
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| 21:22.01 | riot | hi. My mouse isn't working. Should be PS/2 but psaux is not responding (stock 2.6.8 kernel) |
| 21:22.07 | foolip | does anyone know the name of the kernel patch which gives a graphical progress bar and other bells and whistles during the boot process? |
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| 21:22.18 | tarzeau | foolip: it doesn't exist |
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| 21:22.35 | dli | short question, how to rm all find results, like all in find . -name "*tmp.txt" |
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| 21:22.43 | foolip | tarzeau: yes it does, maybe not in debian though |
| 21:22.44 | tarzeau | foolip: but you could run a music player and some song early (after the sound driver is loaded) in the gnu screen (background) |
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| 21:22.52 | tarzeau | foolip: we are in #debian |
| 21:23.17 | foolip | tarzeau: i see your point |
| 21:23.38 | riot | where can i find my mouse? tail -f /dev/psaux shows no activity :( |
| 21:23.49 | valdyn | riot: modprobe psmouse |
| 21:23.52 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: burada konus |
| 21:24.10 | streuner | riot: mdetect? |
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| 21:24.43 | streuner | dpkg info mdetect |
| 21:24.45 | glick | so does anyone know what i should enable in the kernel on a dell laptop inspiron 8200 ACPI or APM? |
| 21:24.48 | dpkg | mdetect: (mouse device autodetection tool), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.5.2 (sid), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 76 kB |
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| 21:25.04 | veleno | i instalelled dos-emu and freedos: installing duke3d, it asks me about a installation directory, but every thing i tried i get "invalid directory" any suggestions ? |
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| 21:25.31 | directhex | veleno, you'd need to supply a virtual dos directory like c:\duke3d |
| 21:25.39 | directhex | veleno, why not use a unix build of duke3d? |
| 21:25.50 | ArchitectSinan | If i have to install PHP 4.3.x from the source i learned that I need "apxs" thing. And a friend at #php told me that i should install "apache-dev" package. I installed "apache-dev" from the 3.0r2 distro CDs. But i still don't have the related "apxs" executeable ? (I run "updatedb" and tried to "locate apxs"). How can I install this apxs thing ? Btw, i asked that in #apache also. And they forward me here |
| 21:26.02 | streuner | What's good app which show different timezones and looks like gdesklets? |
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| 21:26.38 | ArchitectSinan | btw, here's the doc that i'm trying to follow to install PHP 4.3.x from source |
| 21:26.39 | ArchitectSinan | http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.php#install.unix.apache |
| 21:26.47 | veleno | directhex, because i found the italian version, from which i want to take sound files... |
| 21:26.51 | ArchitectSinan | i need to run " ./configure --with-mysql --with-apxs=/www/bin/apxs |
| 21:27.00 | ArchitectSinan | and i don't know where my apxs was |
| 21:27.10 | directhex | !info php4 sarge |
| 21:27.11 | veleno | directhex, so, how do i make a virtual dos directory ? |
| 21:27.11 | ArchitectSinan | because i think i don't have |
| 21:27.15 | dpkg | php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-9 (sarge), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 36 kB |
| 21:27.17 | ArchitectSinan | !info php4 sarge |
| 21:27.19 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: look for it at packages.debian.org |
| 21:27.21 | directhex | veleno, dunno. read the dosemu docs |
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| 21:27.43 | ArchitectSinan | tarzeau: i already have apache-dev package in my Debian 3.0r2 CDs |
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| 21:27.52 | ArchitectSinan | and installed from the CD already |
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| 21:27.56 | ArchitectSinan | with dselect |
| 21:28.04 | directhex | oh, woody |
| 21:28.07 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: you know how old 3.0r2 is? |
| 21:28.07 | directhex | always woody |
| 21:28.07 | riot | streuner: what is mdetect? |
| 21:28.23 | streuner | riot: /msg dpkg info mdetect |
| 21:28.29 | ArchitectSinan | tarzeau: nope |
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| 21:28.44 | ArchitectSinan | tarzeay: which "stabel" version i should use then ? |
| 21:28.49 | ArchitectSinan | stabel=stable |
| 21:28.51 | streuner | riot: you move the mouse and it show you Protocol and /dev |
| 21:28.55 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: well either use stable or not |
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| 21:29.05 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: there is only one stable version at a time |
| 21:29.19 | ArchitectSinan | tarzeau: i want to use "stable" in production servers. that's why i prefer "stable"s |
| 21:29.26 | riot | (i just found out, the damn rodent is usb with a ps2 adaptor.. switched it to usb :) |
| 21:29.26 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: i know some have to use it, but most really want to use a later version of debian |
| 21:29.39 | riot | streuner: anyhow, sounds like a handy tool... |
| 21:29.40 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: well, i can't help you |
| 21:29.50 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: i like to use functioning production servers |
| 21:29.55 | streuner | riot: dunno if it supports USB |
| 21:29.57 | tarzeau | those that just function .. you know |
| 21:30.00 | ArchitectSinan | tarzeau: ok thanks so much :) |
| 21:30.19 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: i mean, what happens if your php thing gets broken majorly? will someone die? |
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| 21:30.34 | tarzeau | hardly anyone uses php for anything critical |
| 21:30.45 | ArchitectSinan | tarzeau: you might be right |
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| 21:30.56 | streuner | riot: one of my boxes use an adapter PS/2->seriell, it works with mdetect |
| 21:30.58 | ericl_ | trying to get information about daenzers dri-trunk, i need them for my powerbooks vid crad |
| 21:31.21 | ArchitectSinan | then which debian distro i should use as "a base " insted of Debian 3.0r2 ? |
| 21:31.28 | ArchitectSinan | insted=instead |
| 21:31.33 | tarzeau | ericl_: #debianppc |
| 21:31.41 | streuner | riot: /msg dpkg usbmouse |
| 21:31.41 | ericl_ | tx |
| 21:31.59 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: use 3.0(r anything) and then use the network to go with either testing or sid |
| 21:32.13 | riot | streuner: hmhmm. i think i had the usb-support in already.. but is it normal, that mdetect just quits silently after calling w/o args? |
| 21:32.15 | tarzeau | dpkg sid faq |
| 21:32.16 | dpkg | sid faq is, like, http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
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| 21:32.25 | directhex | tarzeau, tell him the security implications of his options |
| 21:32.26 | glick | anyone have a suggestion as to use ACPI or APM on my dell inspiron 8200? |
| 21:32.53 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: they can hack your computer badly, and they will abuse and rape it! |
| 21:32.54 | valdyn | !tell glick about laptops |
| 21:33.02 | tarzeau | directhex: fine so? |
| 21:33.15 | streuner | riot: no |
| 21:33.27 | ArchitectSinan | tarzeau: you mean using "apg-get dist-upgrade" ? |
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| 21:33.48 | streuner | riot: usually it waits till an timeout and you have to move the mouse |
| 21:33.49 | riot | streuner: then its not usb-compatible |
| 21:33.55 | ArchitectSinan | tarzeau: i didn't get what you mean ? |
| 21:33.57 | valdyn | !tell ArchitectSinan about woody->sarge |
| 21:34.03 | streuner | riot: yeah, i doubt that it supports it |
| 21:34.04 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: if you don't take care of the machine |
| 21:34.06 | valdyn | ArchitectSinan: that ^^ |
| 21:34.48 | knix | tarzeau, She's on her way! |
| 21:34.50 | streuner | riot: factoid usbmouse give you some tips too, you should read it ;-) |
| 21:34.57 | riot | streuner: ok, I'm gonna try use it as /dev/input/mouse0 :) thnx anyway :) |
| 21:34.57 | tarzeau | knix: she's so lovely! |
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| 21:35.02 | knix | :P |
| 21:35.04 | knix | yermom |
| 21:35.04 | yermom | Yo' momma's so nasty, she uses Drain-o to douche! |
| 21:35.05 | knix | wohoooo |
| 21:35.06 | tarzeau | YERMOM! |
| 21:35.06 | yermom | Yo' momma's so nasty, she brings crabs to the beach! |
| 21:35.10 | knix | yermom gnustep |
| 21:35.10 | yermom | tarzeau is teh GNUstep whorez0r >:) |
| 21:35.14 | knix | yermom gnustep |
| 21:35.14 | yermom | gnustep is yerdaddy!!! |
| 21:35.15 | streuner | riot: no, /dev/mice is the right one |
| 21:35.20 | streuner | !usbmouse |
| 21:35.20 | dpkg | To use a USB mouse, do the following: [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe hid and mousedev by hand); it should beep at you when USB devices are (un)plugged. [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X |
| 21:35.22 | tarzeau | knix: aha haha |
| 21:35.25 | riot | i'm rather experienced using usb-mice .. this is just a new box i'm setting up LIVE in a bar.. the folks are waiting for good music |
| 21:35.32 | streuner | riot: /dev/input/mice |
| 21:35.42 | knix | tarzeau, Ok, I think she has to leave now =-o |
| 21:35.43 | tarzeau | yermom helix streuner bob2 |
| 21:35.43 | yermom | Yo' daddy's d*ck is so small, he makes yo' momma look hung! |
| 21:35.51 | riot | streuner: thx, don't want em all :) |
| 21:35.57 | tarzeau | knix: no no, she stay, you go! |
| 21:35.57 | knix | haaha |
| 21:36.00 | knix | =-o |
| 21:36.01 | helix | ehm |
| 21:36.01 | knix | NEVER! |
| 21:36.21 | helix | stop acting like idiots or you're all gone |
| 21:36.36 | ArchitectSinan | what the hell is this "aptitude" thing ? |
| 21:36.50 | LSorense1 | ArchitectSinan: a nifty curses based interface to dpkg |
| 21:36.54 | streuner | ArchitectSinan: /msg dpkg info aptitude |
| 21:36.56 | valdyn | ArchitectSinan: another frontend to libapt |
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| 21:37.11 | _wrs | HI, I've got a new PS/2 mouse that works fine under knoppix 3.4 but not under my regular system -- sarge. XF86Config-4 differ only in mode lines. Any ideas, where to look else? |
| 21:37.13 | knix | helix, Who's acting like an idiot? |
| 21:37.15 | ArchitectSinan | isn'ti "apt-get" enough to do package installation things ? |
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| 21:37.21 | knix | You mean yermom? Because tarzeau forced me to do it!!!! |
| 21:37.22 | knix | hahaha |
| 21:37.30 | streuner | knix: if you have to ask... |
| 21:37.34 | tarzeau | knix: yeah i forced you with a rope, right? |
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| 21:37.40 | LSorense1 | ArchitectSinan: yes apt-get is _enough_, but that doesn't mean there aren't sometimes better tools for finding packages |
| 21:37.45 | knix | s/a rope/rape/ |
| 21:37.51 | glick | heh john 'maddog' hall visited my school today |
| 21:37.58 | glick | and i totally didnt care! |
| 21:38.01 | LSorense1 | ArchitectSinan: aptitude is a bit like apt-get, apt-cache and a few others things all in one |
| 21:38.05 | knix | tarzeau, Aww, mommy went away =/ |
| 21:38.10 | helix | tarzeau: who are these moron friends of yours and why did you bring them here? |
| 21:38.25 | tarzeau | helix: knix is not a moron. he also uses GNUstep! |
| 21:38.34 | helix | yeah, gnustep users are morons |
| 21:38.38 | tarzeau | helix: besides he was always here, but never said something |
| 21:38.45 | pw | that's GNU/Morons to you. |
| 21:38.52 | tarzeau | pw: heh |
| 21:39.01 | knix | haha |
| 21:39.11 | ArchitectSinan | i asked that because "valdyn" wantse me to know about "!tell ArchitectSinan about woody->sarge" and dpkg bot explained dist-upgrade with aptitude |
| 21:39.13 | tarzeau | helix: weee :( |
| 21:39.15 | knix | I don't use gnustep, I'm a fan of the concept, but it'll never mature to the point of usability :( |
| 21:39.23 | shadowarts | i got a simple question, i setup exim so that it would send outgoing messages to my isp's smtp server, but the isp's smtp server requires a user name and password |
| 21:39.42 | shadowarts | how do i make exim use a username and password |
| 21:39.49 | tarzeau | shadowarts: #exim |
| 21:39.52 | tarzeau | shadowarts: 3.x or 4.x? |
| 21:39.59 | knix | You install qmail >:) |
| 21:40.05 | shadowarts | tarzeau: 3.x |
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| 21:40.17 | shadowarts | i didnt know thye had a channel |
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| 21:41.18 | tarzeau | shadowarts: it's pretty easy to setup (two lines and a password file in /etc/exim did it for me) |
| 21:41.53 | shadowarts | what lines ^^ |
| 21:41.55 | riot | thx everyone. Mouse works again :) Debian rocks! |
| 21:42.02 | tarzeau | shadowarts: at the very bottom |
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| 21:42.14 | streuner | riot: what did you change? |
| 21:42.22 | riot | switched to usb :) |
| 21:42.24 | tarzeau | riot: www.linuks.mine.nu/rockstone.jpg |
| 21:42.26 | smoser | how can I make the apt bot say something to the channel? |
| 21:42.31 | streuner | riot: good idea :-) |
| 21:42.32 | smoser | rather than a private message |
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| 21:42.41 | smoser | just asking about the feature, not caring to exploit it |
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| 21:42.47 | tarzeau | smoser: tell her girlfriend, dpkg |
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| 21:43.08 | RememberPOL | Hey, is anyone in here any good at setting up a printer via CUPS? |
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| 21:43.28 | shadowarts | is it login: plain: or cram_md5: |
| 21:43.33 | tarzeau | RememberPOL: sure, but that question won't help you |
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| 21:43.44 | streuner | smoser: dpkg, say blablah |
| 21:44.00 | riot | tarzeau: ROFL |
| 21:44.05 | riot | nice one :) |
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| 21:44.54 | smoser | dpkg, say test |
| 21:44.55 | dpkg | test |
| 21:45.01 | RememberPOL | tarzeau: well I think I have the CUPS system set up properly but my printer isn't responding... is there any way I can "probe" the ports or anything? |
| 21:45.20 | shulik | RememberPOL:is your cupsd running? |
| 21:45.24 | RememberPOL | lpstat returns nothing |
| 21:45.35 | tarzeau | RememberPOL: i don't like printers |
| 21:45.36 | brayra | I've been wondering. When I apt-get dist-upgrade on unstable, I will have one package get hosed about four times a year. |
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| 21:45.48 | tarzeau | brayra: hehe, that's normal |
| 21:45.52 | RememberPOL | shulik: cups: scheduler is running. |
| 21:45.54 | streuner | RememberPOL: what kind of printer is that? |
| 21:46.02 | brayra | If I could limit dist-upgrade to only look at packages that are 48hrs old. This would have been avoided. Is there a way to do that? |
| 21:46.19 | tarzeau | brayra: no but you can just never run that command.... |
| 21:46.24 | stew | brayra: do you use apt-listbugs? |
| 21:46.34 | ArchitectSinan | Do you suggest me to download Sarge weekly CD images from http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/weekly/i386/ or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to a Woody system ? |
| 21:46.39 | RememberPOL | streuner: HP Photosmart P1000... it's connected to the standard print port (serial #1?) |
| 21:46.40 | brayra | stew: sometimes |
| 21:46.41 | stew | brayra: have you considered running testing? |
| 21:46.46 | tarzeau | ArchitectSinan: the latter (but not to woody, but sarge) |
| 21:46.47 | shulik | RememberPOL: not sheduler but daemon |
| 21:46.52 | brayra | nah, testing is too old. |
| 21:46.54 | smoser | streuner, how about getting him to say to the channel what he would have said to me (ie, how do I get him to say his message about "french fries" to the channel) |
| 21:47.04 | smoser | feel free to point me at TFM |
| 21:47.04 | streuner | RememberPOL: USB? |
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| 21:47.28 | RememberPOL | streuner: No, not usb |
| 21:47.37 | ArchitectSinan | tarzeay: i'll install more than one machine. that's why i want local resources. That's why i asked this |
| 21:47.38 | streuner | !dpkg, say french fries |
| 21:47.38 | dpkg | french fries |
| 21:47.42 | brayra | Just really wish I could put a *not newer than x hours* limit on dist-upgrade. That really would make unstable almost as good as testing. |
| 21:47.49 | stew | !french fries |
| 21:47.49 | dpkg | french fries are what you get when you cut a potato up into little chunks and boil them in grease. Kinda like the result when you try to install testing or unstable packages on your potato Debian system. |
| 21:48.01 | valdyn | ArchitectSinan: do you already have a running debian system? |
| 21:48.05 | _wrs | Hi. |
| 21:48.09 | travisat | ~abuse smoser |
| 21:48.12 | apt | ACTION smacks smoser across the face. "Take that, Bitch!" |
| 21:48.18 | ArchitectSinan | valdyn:yes. but it's a development environment |
| 21:48.35 | ArchitectSinan | valdyn:or i can say test environment |
| 21:48.41 | valdyn | ArchitectSinan: you can try to use apt-proxy to cache packages |
| 21:48.41 | RememberPOL | shulik: what exactly are you talking about then? I thought /etc/rc.d/rc.cups was the daemon |
| 21:48.43 | smoser | thanks all. |
| 21:48.48 | ArchitectSinan | valdyn: i'll use it debian in a webserver farm |
| 21:49.08 | ArchitectSinan | valdyn: where apt-proxy caches the packages ? |
| 21:49.11 | valdyn | ArchitectSinan: whatever for, apt-proxy is nice to cache packages |
| 21:49.16 | streuner | RememberPOL: anyway, take a look at /msg dpkg hpinkjet install |
| 21:49.19 | RememberPOL | The normal printer port is the serial port right? |
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| 21:49.30 | streuner | no, gods |
| 21:49.36 | RememberPOL | thanks |
| 21:49.37 | valdyn | ArchitectSinan: in a filesystem |
| 21:49.54 | ArchitectSinan | valdyn: ok thx for the idea |
| 21:49.56 | RememberPOL | darn I'm already at this site |
| 21:50.04 | valdyn | ArchitectSinan: to the outside apt-proxy is a debian mirror, inside it just downloads on demand |
| 21:50.05 | dli | anyone uses updatedb here? how to exclude the fold /mnt from updatedb ? |
| 21:50.08 | shulik | RememberPOL:hit CTRL-ESC buttons at the same time and check for cupsd running in the list |
| 21:50.24 | streuner | dli: man updatedb? |
| 21:50.33 | streuner | dli: man locate? |
| 21:50.52 | dli | streuner, I did, and followed, but it never worked for me, that's why asking |
| 21:51.06 | RememberPOL | shulik: Ctrl+escape? .... I don't think that does anything on my desktop environment |
| 21:51.13 | dli | streuner, in /etc/updatedb.conf or -- args |
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| 21:52.05 | shulik | RememberPOL:It starts Process Table |
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| 21:52.49 | RememberPOL | shulik: or ps -A |
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| 21:53.06 | ArchitectSinan | Which "deb" line i should add to my /etc/apt/sources.list to to "apg-get dist-upgrade" from woody to sarge ? |
| 21:53.18 | RememberPOL | ps lists hpijs (my printer driver) and cupsd |
| 21:53.31 | dli | streuner, oh, locate is buggy, I should be using slocate |
| 21:53.36 | ArchitectSinan | now i only have "deb cdrom" lines in my sources.list file |
| 21:53.49 | smo | hi all |
| 21:53.59 | stew | ArchitectSinan: first run apt-setup ; the /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 21:54.06 | stew | s/the/then/ |
| 21:54.07 | ArchitectSinan | apt-setup |
| 21:54.10 | ArchitectSinan | sorry :( |
| 21:54.20 | ArchitectSinan | i thought that i'm on console :)) lol |
| 21:54.38 | shulik | RememberPOL: is your cupsd in the list? |
| 21:54.49 | stew | ArchitectSinan: atp-get dist-upgrade doesn't work for woody->sarge you should use aptitude |
| 21:54.58 | smo | i juste created a small script to launch a game-server at boot i have a problem with the conf file error xxx.conf not found |
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| 21:55.22 | ArchitectSinan | stet: apt-setup is perfect. thank you :) |
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| 21:55.45 | RememberPOL | shulik: Yes cupsd is in the list |
| 21:56.20 | ArchitectSinan | stew: i should have guess that the file in ftp://ftp.XX.debian.org/packages.gz what is it for ;) |
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| 21:56.42 | nalop | Hello, How can i get ati drivers installed ? I need it for games:) |
| 21:56.45 | nalop | SysInfo: Linux 2.6.8-2-386 | AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ 1801.334 MHz | Bogomips: 3563.52 | Mem: 99/251M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 72.66G Free: 55.83G | Procs: 71 | Uptime: 2 days 12 hrs 22 mins 29 secs | Load: 0.07 0.32 0.25 | Vpenis: 31.2 cm | Screen: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] @ 1024x768 (24 bpp) | eth0: In: 1.51G Out: 53.33M |
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| 21:56.58 | ArchitectSinan | now apt-setup downloads it. i like the debian way :) |
| 21:57.06 | shulik | RememberPOL: O.K. then your CUPS server is running. Open Printer Manager from Your KDE or Gnome menu |
| 21:57.15 | TolkienLuver | apt pwns yum; flat |
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| 21:57.22 | addNtoX | hi folks |
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| 21:57.54 | ArchitectSinan | stew: i finally got why i needed that "aptitude". thanks again so much |
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| 21:58.09 | directhex | nalop, google for "flavio ati", read and follow the instructions TO THE LETTER |
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| 21:58.33 | nalop | okey, that's what i needed, google search words. thanks. |
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| 21:59.09 | dli | streuner, yes, hope debian should make slocate the default, rather than locate |
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| 21:59.19 | directhex | nalop, ati is shit. i am not going to sit here and relate several thousand words of instructions to you second hard, when you could read the material yourself |
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| 21:59.56 | lawnchair | hmm, during debian set up is there an option to install from a pre-mounted directory ? |
| 22:00.01 | caphuso | dli: good idea. yet another package in the base install |
| 22:00.19 | stouset | Argh, the tg3 drivers aren't in the 2.6.11 kernel and I need to upgrade for other reasons. A debian-kernel post says that they'll be included in the kernel-modules-nonfree package, but such a package doesn't seem to exist. Anyone know where to find it? |
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| 22:00.39 | nalop | directhex: didn't i say that was the manual i was looking for, heh ? |
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| 22:02.31 | stew | stouset: is tg3 still in the vanilla sources? |
| 22:02.36 | stouset | stew: Yes. |
| 22:02.44 | stew | stouset: then why not use vanilla sources? |
| 22:02.46 | stouset | stew: only removed in the debian sources due to #debian-legal |
| 22:02.55 | stouset | stew: I'd prefer not to. I use packages for a reason :-) |
| 22:02.56 | nalop | How can i make a gcc2.5.5 compiler the default compiler ? |
| 22:03.06 | stouset | nalop: update-alternatives |
| 22:03.06 | streuner | nalop: Don't |
| 22:03.08 | nalop | 2.9.5* |
| 22:03.12 | stew | stouset: you can build your own .deb with make-kpkg |
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| 22:03.22 | stouset | stew: From a vanilla kernel? |
| 22:03.26 | stew | stouset: yes |
| 22:03.28 | directhex | stouset, yes |
| 22:03.29 | stouset | stew: I see. |
| 22:03.43 | stouset | stew: Still, I would prefer to stick to debianized ones if at all possible. |
| 22:04.36 | stew | stouset: read the debian-kernel mailing list, or ask in #debian-kernel |
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| 22:05.25 | stouset | stew: Figured I'd poke around in here first. Thanks :-) |
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| 22:08.10 | dli | any reccently known security hole in courierd ? |
| 22:08.27 | dli | seems like that the zk rootkit starts from courierd |
| 22:08.39 | streuner | dli: debian.org and scroll to the bottom |
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| 22:08.58 | streuner | dli: that's for stable |
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| 22:09.36 | C17H21NO4 | On <other> distro my right alt key was meta key, that doesn't seem to be the case with debian. How do I change it? |
| 22:09.52 | dli | streuner, I'm checking the leftover of the zk rootkit, now, I'm convinced it starts from courierd, which was installed by careless mistake |
| 22:10.20 | chealer | dli: are you using stable? |
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| 22:10.44 | grendal_prime | hey is anyone any good with connecting via a sieral port/ |
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| 22:10.45 | dli | chealer: sarge |
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| 22:11.11 | chealer | dli: check http://merkel.debian.org/~joeyh/testing-security.html |
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| 22:11.32 | dli | chealer: don't worry, install a firewall, and important, psad, open ports only needed |
| 22:11.37 | grendal_prime | i mean ...we got thses machines...they connect to a server via a serial port adapter and they use windows and procom...and well procom sucks compaired to just a linux terminal |
| 22:11.55 | grendal_prime | in fact procom is a joke |
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| 22:12.43 | grendal_prime | i was thinking i could connect one of these funky little adapters to this linux box we got here and just command line into the router what normall is done via procomm |
| 22:13.10 | grendal_prime | anyone done anthing similar to that? |
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| 22:14.46 | valdyn | grendal_prime: its not procomm that sucks, its the servers terminal "program" |
| 22:15.24 | deprave_ | Can i compile modutils and a 2.6 kernel source (say vanilla sources with some desired patches, not debian-sources), make installit, addit to lilo, and reboot this remote server and have 100% chance its gunna come up if i did everything correct? |
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| 22:15.35 | Nadfoka | good evening |
| 22:15.57 | grendal_prime | well...if i could connect via the linux machine i would be able to be the judg of that...but for the most part...procomm does not display things all the time...things that i know are there |
| 22:16.07 | deprave_ | (this is debian stable) |
| 22:16.23 | shingouz | deprave_: if you know what you are doing, yes but you really should use the Debian Way for the kernel even so |
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| 22:16.53 | grendal_prime | things that when i talk to the help desk associated with this app, they say.."its right there, if your machine is not displaying it your terminal imulation is incorrect" |
| 22:17.03 | Nadfoka | is it possible to install debian to a PDA and how can i make GIMP to work on it? |
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| 22:17.07 | deprave_ | shingouz: but i want to run debian stable with 2.6 kernel, how should i go about this "the debian way"? |
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| 22:17.15 | valdyn | grendal_prime: yea, so set procomm to whatever is "correct" , maybe vt-100 |
| 22:17.17 | grendal_prime | and they use that because they are NOT using a terminal emulater, they are using a terminal |
| 22:17.26 | grendal_prime | they came and set it up |
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| 22:17.41 | veleno | how can I unpack a .grp file ?? |
| 22:17.49 | calin | What port does dns resolve on? |
| 22:17.49 | shingouz | deprave_: just get the kernel sources and make-kpkg with them. you will need the new modutils too to get the 2.6 working |
| 22:17.55 | grendal_prime | im certain of this....they have told us they are discontinuing procomm for this reason |
| 22:18.00 | oigres | Hi Guys, i´ve got a text file with loads of lines on it... In order to select, say, line 10 of that file, whats the unix command to use??? |
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| 22:18.04 | xiaogil | firefox takes into account CCS3 ? |
| 22:18.06 | xiaogil | ? |
| 22:18.15 | grendal_prime | they no longer support it but they have not decided what they are going to support... |
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| 22:18.52 | grendal_prime | i want to be done with them entirely...but anyway...thing is..im not very good with hardware related "stuff" |
| 22:18.54 | xiaogil | CSS3 I mean |
| 22:19.02 | Solet | whats the command to start the xserver? |
| 22:19.07 | grendal_prime | startx |
| 22:19.08 | shingouz | startx |
| 22:19.09 | calin | !start x |
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| 22:19.13 | oigres | Solet: startx |
| 22:19.15 | calin | !startx |
| 22:19.15 | dpkg | i guess startx is a script that starts the X Window System , configure X before starting it. If the rest of X seems present, try getting xbase-clients. see starting gnome, or the way god intended X to be started. Issue 'startx <command> <xclient-options> -- <server> <xserver-options>' to specify specific client to start. Session will exit when that client exits. |
| 22:19.21 | Sb_debian_instal | could someone help me? |
| 22:19.24 | grendal_prime | hehehe everyone knows that one |
| 22:19.27 | Solet | ty |
| 22:19.27 | deprave_ | shingouz, cant i use apt to get the debian kernel package of a 2.6 kernel without moving out of stable, (m thinking this way it will do modutils and all dependencies for me automagiclly |
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| 22:19.42 | Gul | what was the name of the package again that installs everything you need to compile programs yourself? |
| 22:19.53 | stew | SbCl3: just ask |
| 22:19.54 | chealer | Gul: build-essential |
| 22:19.55 | JeffWilson12 | I seem to be having iptables problems.... iptables v1.2.11: Couldn't load match 'sate':/lib/iptables/libipt_sate.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. ... what do I do? ... Im usings Sarge |
| 22:20.02 | oigres | deprave_: if you dont want to move to unstable,then compile the kernel yourself... |
| 22:20.04 | Gul | chealer: thank you |
| 22:20.08 | FieldySnuts | that should be state not sate |
| 22:20.13 | SbCl3 | I can't get connected to the network |
| 22:20.15 | SbCl3 | my card is Intel PRO/1000 CT gigabit lan |
| 22:20.19 | oigres | Hi Guys, i´ve got a text file with loads of lines on it... In order to select, say, line 10 of that file, whats the unix command to use??? |
| 22:20.23 | SbCl3 | i can't find it in the driver options |
| 22:20.25 | nSe | hello everybody, i'm not very used to updates under Debian: when a new version of a specific package is released, just doing "apt-get update" updates all the packages in the whole system? |
| 22:20.35 | shingouz | deprave_: just download the module-init-tools and install it with plain dpkg -i, then get the kernel sources, make config && make-kpkg and dpkg -i the resulting deb |
| 22:20.42 | stew | SbCl3: what kenrel are you running? (uname -r) |
| 22:20.48 | grendal_prime | i thought that looked werid....sate that is |
| 22:20.56 | oigres | nSe: do apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade... That should do everything... |
| 22:21.12 | SbCl3 | i think the newest one. Its the one that comes with the official debian disk |
| 22:21.17 | SbCl3 | eiher 2.4 or 2.6 |
| 22:21.33 | stew | nSe: it updates the list of available packages, apt-get upgrade upgrades packages with new vesions available apt-get install foo installs a newer version of foo if its available |
| 22:21.36 | sean_micken|work | how would i go through a directory (recursively) and find the 10 largest files? |
| 22:21.37 | stew | SbCl3: type uname -r |
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| 22:22.04 | shulik | oigres: man head |
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| 22:22.11 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 22:22.14 | oigres | sean_micken|work: man find |
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| 22:22.26 | oigres | shulik: OK, thanks! |
| 22:22.43 | shulik | o.k. |
| 22:22.50 | SbCl3 | where do i type uname -r? |
| 22:22.53 | SbCl3 | the bash prompt? |
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| 22:22.59 | stew | SbCl3: yes |
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| 22:23.06 | SbCl3 | alright: thanks |
| 22:23.07 | Nikos__ | can anyone tell me how to download SIMULTANEOUSLY more than one files with wget ? |
| 22:23.22 | calin | not possible |
| 22:23.35 | calin | unless you run another copy |
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| 22:23.43 | dondelelcaro | Nikos__: run multiple copies of wget. |
| 22:23.50 | dli | how to let apt-cache search prints only package names ? |
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| 22:24.09 | speedy2782 | I am curious what office suite is best. What are your opinions? |
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| 22:24.18 | Guerin | speedy2782: emacs |
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| 22:24.32 | Trev1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.33 | Guerin | and before you get started, it IS a fucking office suite |
| 22:24.49 | speedy2782 | what about open or koffice? |
| 22:24.50 | Aronofsky | hi everybody, need a piece of advice, what is according to you the best CD burnin Soft GUI ( im usin Gnome ) |
| 22:25.16 | Guerin | Aronofsky: k3b |
| 22:25.19 | stew | dli: apt-cache search foo | awk '{print $1}' |
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| 22:25.25 | Guerin | speedy2782: open |
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| 22:25.50 | Aimaz | the best one i know of is k3b but that's kde or qt |
| 22:25.56 | directhex | so? |
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| 22:26.02 | calin | kde progs run in gnome just fine |
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| 22:26.06 | Solet | hrm, in the config, is there anything special i have to enter if my mouse is an optical mouse? |
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| 22:26.12 | Aimaz | calin: yeah but they look funny |
| 22:26.13 | directhex | people seem to have gotten the idea from somewhere that different toolkit means does-not-run |
| 22:26.18 | directhex | Solet, no |
| 22:26.24 | FieldySnuts | Solet: nope, system doesn't care. gets the same signals down the wire |
| 22:26.32 | calin | Aimaz: You want a burnt cd or something that looks pretty? |
| 22:26.38 | Aimaz | directhex: I don't think that at all, but I'd rather gtk than kde or qt |
| 22:26.38 | directhex | Aimaz, so change the qt settings in kcontrol to make them similar |
| 22:26.39 | Nikos__ | dondelelcaro can I do it with lftp ?? |
| 22:26.44 | Aimaz | calin: both |
| 22:26.47 | dli | stew: thanks |
| 22:26.57 | directhex | Aimaz, nothing compares to k3b |
| 22:26.58 | andeer | [andeer] |
| 22:27.01 | FieldySnuts | @do Nikos__ |
| 22:27.09 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: ? |
| 22:27.09 | Aimaz | directhex: i know, that's why I use it |
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| 22:28.35 | nSe | hello everybody, i'm not very used to updates under Debian: when a new version of a specific package is released, just doing "apt-get update" updates all the packages in the whole system? |
| 22:28.37 | andeer | [andeer] |
| 22:28.44 | Jec2 | hey guys how can I get my dhcpd.conf to get automatically updated with my resolv.conf (which is updated automatically when my ISP changes dns) ? |
| 22:28.46 | dondelelcaro | Nikos__: yes. |
| 22:28.48 | FieldySnuts | nSe: someone already told you, pay attention |
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| 22:29.03 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.08 | Aimaz | nSe: no, that updates your local list of packages, apt-get upgrade upgrades some of the packages |
| 22:29.12 | andeer | [andeer] |
| 22:29.12 | shadowarts | is there a nice config wizard for exim4 like there is for exim3 in debian |
| 22:29.27 | FieldySnuts | vim |
| 22:29.31 | cheale1 | andeer: stop saying [andeer] |
| 22:29.32 | shadowarts | lol |
| 22:29.37 | caphuso | shadowarts: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 22:29.37 | Jec2 | I have a line option domain-name-servers should I remove it than FieldySnuts ? |
| 22:29.42 | nSe | FieldySnuts: sorry, my irc client is crazy |
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| 22:29.57 | darxeth | how can i turn off the iptables for a while? like iptabless off, just for a temporary period |
| 22:29.58 | shadowarts | ah thanks |
| 22:30.01 | andeer | SORRY |
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| 22:30.07 | shadowarts | i was just trying dpk-reconfigure exim4 |
| 22:30.08 | andeer | ups |
| 22:30.19 | Guerin | shadowarts: exim4-config, iirc |
| 22:30.23 | nSe | Aimaz: and how can i upgrade all the packages in my system? |
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| 22:30.33 | dondelelcaro | Nikos__: howver, in many cases multiple file downloads from a single server are totally pointless, since your connection is generally saturated. |
| 22:30.36 | camT | hello, how am i able to extract the FLASH.BIN file? i found it on an embedded server device, it should be a firmware update.. so how to extract it? |
| 22:30.36 | Guerin | !tell nSe about pkgmgmt |
| 22:30.44 | Aimaz | nSe: do apt-get upgrade, then apt-get dist-upgrade, but you should read the documentation |
| 22:30.51 | Solet | grrrr my mouse isnt working... |
| 22:30.53 | Guerin | camT: file FLASH.BIN |
| 22:31.24 | camT | -bash: file: command not found |
| 22:31.30 | streuner | Solet: use 'mdetect' unless its USB |
| 22:31.34 | nSe | Guerin: Aimaz, i'll read the apt-get howto |
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| 22:32.30 | Solet | well shit, i plug in a different mouse, reboot, and it works fine |
| 22:32.41 | Solet | my new optical is a dud :( |
| 22:32.42 | camT | fuck you FieldySnuts silly prick |
| 22:32.47 | paulswm | nSe: actually do apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 22:32.49 | FieldySnuts | eat shit, kid. |
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| 22:33.19 | Solet | lol |
| 22:33.37 | paulswm | FieldySnuts: well spooted, pal |
| 22:33.41 | paulswm | spotted |
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| 22:34.07 | camT | file: couldn't find any magic files! |
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| 22:34.22 | cheal | [repeat] how can I view the boot messages that appear before syslogd starts? |
| 22:34.35 | streuner | Solet: uh, no dude i wouldn't do such things... |
| 22:34.36 | FieldySnuts | dmesg |
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| 22:34.59 | streuner | Solet: asking for someone to kick usually have bad consequents ;-) |
| 22:35.04 | sanmarcos | Hi, I am getting a very weird error, when i try to su, and I put the right passwd, I get auth failed, and I try changing it with ro single at boot.. this is weird, a few days ago I had probelms with all my permissiones being changed, any ideas?¿ |
| 22:35.07 | darxeth | no one knows how to temporarly turn off iptables? |
| 22:35.22 | FieldySnuts | iptables -F |
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| 22:36.37 | shadowarts | argh, how do you completely remove and reinstall a package with apt-get |
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| 22:36.42 | streuner | darxeth: /etc/init.d/iptables stop? |
| 22:36.48 | shadowarts | because apt-get install just doesnt really seem to do it |
| 22:36.50 | cheal | FieldySnuts: are you sure that's supposed to show those that appear before syslogd starts? |
| 22:36.58 | FieldySnuts | cheal: hell if i know |
| 22:37.00 | paulswm | shadowarts: apt-get --purge remove ..., then apt-get install |
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| 22:37.25 | shadowarts | paulswm: what does just apt-get remove do? |
| 22:37.36 | paulswm | shadowarts: man apt-get |
| 22:37.48 | dli | paulswm, dpkg --purge --force-all foo;apt-get -f install foo, better |
| 22:38.00 | paulswm | shadowarts: It does not remove config files |
| 22:38.33 | shadowarts | ok |
| 22:38.44 | paulswm | dli: never found the beed for it, actually in that situation I just do aptitude purge |
| 22:38.44 | ludi | What is the name of the package that runs the service that opens port 111 "rpcbind"? |
| 22:38.59 | streuner | portmap? |
| 22:39.14 | streuner | ludi: grep 111 /etc/services would tell you |
| 22:39.18 | shadowarts | thats kind of weird, seems like it should be more like apt-get --keep_config remove package |
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| 22:39.43 | shadowarts | i guess thats what aliases are for! |
| 22:40.14 | ludi | streuner: E: Couldn't find package sunrpc |
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| 22:40.21 | streuner | ludi: uhm |
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| 22:40.29 | darxeth | streuner: bash: /etc/init.d/iptables: No such file or directory ? |
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| 22:40.33 | streuner | ludi: what do you wanna run, NFS? |
| 22:40.45 | darxeth | streuner: yes i'm root |
| 22:40.46 | dli | paulswm, oh, I do it often now :( apt-get remove got deps problem, but if you simply want a fresh package, so forget deps |
| 22:40.53 | ludi | No, I want to remove the package that is responsible for starting this service. |
| 22:41.04 | ludi | streuner: ^ |
| 22:41.05 | dli | layer2.cpanel.net |
| 22:41.06 | streuner | darxeth: well, you haven't iptables installed then... |
| 22:41.21 | dli | someone should shutdown this layer2.cpanel.net |
| 22:41.24 | streuner | ludi: server? |
| 22:41.50 | darxeth | streuner: really? but i can still do man iptables |
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| 22:41.54 | paulswm | dli: I never get deps problems, well I haven't for at least a couple of years, but I run testing and don't mix distros |
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| 22:42.10 | ludi | streuner: I don't think I have any services that requires sunrpc/portmapper |
| 22:42.17 | streuner | darxeth: dpkg -l iptables |
| 22:42.32 | Siempre | hoalñ |
| 22:42.33 | Siempre | cpomp |
| 22:42.37 | Siempre | como va |
| 22:42.38 | darxeth | streuner: after apt-get install: iptables is already the newest version |
| 22:42.43 | dli | darxeth, /sbin/iptables -L |
| 22:42.45 | streuner | ludi: case if you have and remove portmap you have a BIG problem (server) |
| 22:42.49 | Siempre | algun argentino?? |
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| 22:43.22 | Siempre | HOLAAAAAAAA |
| 22:43.23 | streuner | !es |
| 22:43.24 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 22:43.25 | Siempre | DELEN |
| 22:43.49 | ludi | streuner: why would it be a problem if my server isn't running any services that require portmap? |
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| 22:44.02 | darxeth | dli: thanks |
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| 22:44.13 | streuner | ludi: in case you have nfs-kernel-server installed and remove portmap you have a BIG problem too... |
| 22:44.36 | deadcat | i created a user with /bin/rbash, but i can still run most of the commands. |
| 22:44.59 | streuner | ludi: at boot time the system checks if portmap is available or not and if its not find it, it start nothing anymore |
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| 22:45.19 | ludi | streuner: I have nfs-kernel-server package installed... |
| 22:45.37 | valdyn | ludi: apt-cache rdepends portmap |
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| 22:46.15 | Rdsmith4 | I can't seem to mount my floppy drive - "mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/fd0" gives "you must specify the filesystem type". |
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| 22:46.25 | valdyn | ludi: ends up that gnome depends on portmap ) |
| 22:46.32 | ludi | hmm |
| 22:46.40 | streuner | Rdsmith4: custom kernel? |
| 22:46.47 | ludi | so short of removing portmap, how do I simply prevent it from starting on bootup? |
| 22:46.52 | Rdsmith4 | streuner: no, just default |
| 22:47.01 | Rdsmith4 | Debian Sarge, kernel 2.6.something |
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| 22:47.10 | valdyn | ludi: and kde |
| 22:47.12 | bahamat | does anyone know what package rotates /var/log/messages? |
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| 22:47.23 | deadcat | i have an account on my system only does rsync, how should i secure this account? |
| 22:47.33 | streuner | bahamat: prolly logrotate |
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| 22:47.43 | deprave_ | debian is for queers and mostly homos, mostly |
| 22:47.44 | bahamat | streuner: I can't find the control files for it |
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| 22:48.10 | Rdsmith4 | any suggestions? |
| 22:48.11 | ludi | so short of removing portmap, how do I simply prevent it from starting on bootup? |
| 22:48.16 | bahamat | streuner: I've got two boxes (well, more than that..but...) one is rotating messages, one isn't. I don't see a diff between them |
| 22:48.28 | valdyn | ludi: why would you disable it? |
| 22:48.29 | drac | ludi: apt-get install rcconf && rcconf, and unselect it. |
| 22:48.31 | deadcat | ludi: update-rc.d |
| 22:48.45 | ludi | valdyn: because I don't use it and I don't want that port to be open on my server |
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| 22:49.14 | agiofws | how do i retreive password from dev/mem? |
| 22:49.18 | deadcat | ludi: i would just simply go to /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rcS.d and rename them to _OFF.whatever |
| 22:49.43 | Rdsmith4 | anybody at all? |
| 22:49.50 | agiofws | how do i read it in the first place? |
| 22:50.36 | streuner | Rdsmith4: very odd, usually you get this when a module isn't loaded |
| 22:50.40 | valdyn | agiofws: just give up |
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| 22:50.56 | agiofws | valdyn, why? |
| 22:51.08 | streuner | Rdsmith4: of the FS on the media isn't ok |
| 22:51.12 | Rdsmith4 | streuner: what might I be missing, and how do I get it? |
| 22:51.20 | shingouz | Rdsmith4: try "mount /mnt/fd0" |
| 22:51.20 | nSe | paulswm: you mean to do apt-get upgrade then apt-get dist-upgrade? but ok, by now i just want to upgrade kopete, so i should type apt-get upgrade kopete ? |
| 22:51.23 | agiofws | valdyn, is it possible? |
| 22:51.28 | ludi | deadcat: so what would that command be then? "update-rc.d -n portmap remove"? |
| 22:51.32 | CyberShadow | why is there a sound delay present ? I can tweak it with "sound buffer" in KDE, but why can't this be completely solved and the sound be immediately played like in Windows? |
| 22:51.43 | Rdsmith4 | streuner: it contains a text file copied from Windows, but that's never mattered in the past |
| 22:51.47 | streuner | Rdsmith4: with official kernel i never had any problems... |
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| 22:52.03 | Rdsmith4 | streuner: "can't find /mnt/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" |
| 22:52.03 | deadcat | ludi: i dont use update-rc.d i just cd and mv |
| 22:52.30 | shingouz | Rdsmith4: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/fd0 |
| 22:52.36 | bahamat | deadcat: you should get used to update-rc.d, makes life a lot easier |
| 22:53.10 | malex | what transport does apt-get use for ftp servers? Is it wget? |
| 22:53.10 | deadcat | bahamat: bahamat no need. i only install the stuff i use. |
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| 22:53.17 | shingouz | Rdsmith4: Another version would be: mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/fd0 |
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| 22:53.30 | streuner | malex: it own |
| 22:53.41 | ludi | what about ident (auth 113) what service is that? |
| 22:53.41 | MobyTurbo | malex: "wget" is not a transport |
| 22:53.43 | streuner | malex: apt-get has that feature itself |
| 22:53.50 | bahamat | deadcat: you apparently don't do very much with your system then |
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| 22:54.21 | deadcat | bahamat: i use it for email/web/chat/video/music/vi |
| 22:54.21 | Rdsmith4 | shingouz: "mount point /mnt/fd0 does not exist" |
| 22:54.23 | malex | streuner: Damn, I thought it would be easy :( I am getting these weird size mismatch and download abort errors when I try to install some software from a private repository on a system running in a qemu environment. |
| 22:54.26 | Solet | how do i change my desktop handler from kde to gnome? |
| 22:54.40 | bahamat | deadcat: that's what I mean |
| 22:54.41 | deadcat | Solet: /etc/X11/x-default-manager |
| 22:54.42 | shingouz | Rdsmith4: so make the mountpoint then |
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| 22:54.50 | Rdsmith4 | how do I do that? |
| 22:55.14 | CyberShadow | Solet: when you log in, you can choose it with your graphical login interface |
| 22:55.15 | shingouz | Rdsmith4: you *did* read the mount man-page? |
| 22:55.17 | deadcat | bahamat: i only use update-rc.d to generate my own scripts to put in /etc/init.d i rarely use it to modify it |
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| 22:55.19 | streuner | malex: usually you 'clear' the cache then and apt-get it another time |
| 22:55.22 | ludi | what is 691/tcp open resvc |
| 22:55.34 | bahamat | ludi: cups |
| 22:56.01 | Rdsmith4 | shingouz: simply "mount /dev/fd0" gets a response from the floppy drive (i.e. it starts spinning) but it gives a bunch of "probe failed" messages |
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| 22:56.05 | malex | streuner: That's what I do, but it takes up to 20 install attempts to get it to install. It's probably a bug in qemu disk image handling that slightly corrupts the files thus changing the md5sum or something like that. |
| 22:56.10 | Solet | umm i open /etc/X11/x-default-manager and it says its a new file |
| 22:56.15 | shingouz | Rdsmith4: as you're testing if the floppy works in the forst place, mount it to whatever empty directory you have access to |
| 22:56.21 | MobyTurbo | bahamat: I thought that was 631 |
| 22:56.30 | shingouz | s/forst/first |
| 22:56.59 | bahamat | MobyTurbo: ah, you're right...saw 6*1 and was only paying half attention |
| 22:57.26 | MobyTurbo | bahamat: wtf is 691, I have no idea, it's not in /etc/services |
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| 22:57.56 | deadcat | whats the best way to setup an account that only does rsync? |
| 22:58.11 | Solet | how do i change my desktop manager? /etc/X11/x-default-manager isnt an existing file |
| 22:58.30 | streuner | Solet: /msg dpkg wm |
| 22:58.31 | deadcat | Solet: its in /etc/X11 i dont remember the exact name |
| 22:58.33 | dli | Solet: dpkg-reconfigure gdm, or kdm ? |
| 22:58.40 | p8m | Solet: .xinirc/.xsession |
| 22:58.51 | deadcat | Solet: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13 Jan 21 13:14 default-display-manager |
| 22:58.53 | dli | Solet, no, do in debian way |
| 22:58.53 | streuner | Solet: just use startx |
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| 22:59.39 | naphex | MobyTurbo: ms exchange ? |
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| 22:59.48 | streuner | Solet: apt-get install desktop-manager change it auto |
| 22:59.52 | directhex | dpkg-reconfigure xdm |
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| 23:00.44 | p8m | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:01.29 | shadowarts | when i go to configure exim4 it says pretty much all the files in /etc/exim4/ dont exist |
| 23:01.33 | shadowarts | (which they dont) |
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| 23:01.46 | ethics | why not just swap to GDM and say yes i want it to be my default next time?? |
| 23:01.49 | shadowarts | i tried apt-get --purge remove exim4 |
| 23:01.52 | shadowarts | and then install again |
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| 23:01.57 | ludi | is this cups? 697/tcp open unknown |
| 23:01.58 | SbCl3 | can KDE be run on debian? |
| 23:02.11 | ethics | SbC13: yup |
| 23:02.30 | SbCl3 | is it one of the packages? i don't see it anywhere |
| 23:02.32 | bahamat | ludi: ps -ef | grep `sudo fuser -n tcp 697 2>/dev/null` |
| 23:03.06 | shadowarts | anyone? |
| 23:03.28 | ludi | bahamut: root 3059 1 0 15:58 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/rpc.statd |
| 23:03.34 | Thanatermesis | any person works in audio-music ? |
| 23:03.39 | bahamat | append "| grep -v grep" to the end of that for simultaneous obfuscation and clarity |
| 23:03.48 | Thanatermesis | I have a problem in a audio record |
| 23:03.58 | Thanatermesis | have a "noise" sound, how to delete this ? |
| 23:04.00 | ethics | Thanatermesis: im a musician & sound engineer |
| 23:04.02 | bahamat | ludi: nfs |
| 23:04.06 | deadcat | shadowarts: dpkg -S exim4 maybe |
| 23:04.08 | Thanatermesis | from the .wav file ? |
| 23:04.10 | bahamat | ludi: shutdown portmap and it'll go away |
| 23:04.31 | ethics | Thanatermesis: linux or windows? |
| 23:04.35 | Thanatermesis | linux :) |
| 23:04.46 | Thanatermesis | ethics, look the file... |
| 23:04.55 | Thanatermesis | http://legbasite.no-ip.org/alionka/enfoque.ogg |
| 23:04.59 | shadowarts | deadcat: no didnt help :( |
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| 23:05.18 | deadcat | shadowarts: you trying to remove exim4 and its config files right? |
| 23:05.26 | ArchitectSinan | hi all |
| 23:05.28 | deadcat | shadowarts: -P oops. hehe |
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| 23:06.46 | ludi | bahamat: how do I shutdown portmap (so it doesn't start on next reboot also). |
| 23:07.00 | deadcat | ludi: update-rc.d |
| 23:07.08 | shadowarts | deadcat: the config files arent installing to begin with, i just tried -P and then apt-get install but apt just doesnt want to give my those config files back! |
| 23:07.09 | ethics | Thanatermesis: thats a pretty clean recording....some background sound at around 14K on the eq monitor.... |
| 23:07.12 | ludi | deadcat: I tried that and it's still starting on reboot |
| 23:07.13 | cafuego | ludi: Just remove it if you don't want it. |
| 23:07.31 | ludi | cafuego: I don't want to remove the package because apparently gnome depends on it |
| 23:07.31 | deadcat | ludi: thats why i say use mv in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rcS.d |
| 23:07.43 | ludi | grrr |
| 23:07.49 | ludi | there has got to be a better way of doing this! |
| 23:07.53 | ethics | Thanatermesis: i use windows to do most of my audio stuff but there are some really good Wav editors on linux. |
| 23:07.57 | cafuego | ludi: apt-get remove portmap - see what it wants to remove. if it just says 'gnome' you can delete it. |
| 23:08.14 | ludi | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 23:08.14 | ludi | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.24 | deadcat | ludi: let me know when you find a better way |
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| 23:08.35 | ArchitectSinan | i was trying to "aptitude update" and i see 2 "Reading Package Lists... Error!" lines. and 5 E lines: "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room", "E: Ran out of allocation pools", "E: Error occured while processing powertweak-extra (NewVErsion1)", "E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.tr.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_main_binary-i386_Packages", "E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opene". What should i |
| 23:08.37 | ludi | deadcat: isn't there a services gui that can do this? |
| 23:09.04 | deadcat | ludi: rcconf, but i dont know if it will remove the script from /etc/rc2.d AND /etc/rcS.d though |
| 23:09.07 | cafuego | ludi: That's fine, gnome-desktop-environment is a meta-package. it WILL NOT remove gnome. |
| 23:09.20 | bahamat | ludi: update-rc.d is your friend |
| 23:09.22 | ArchitectSinan | i do what exactly "dpkg" bot telling me about "woody->sarge" word |
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| 23:09.41 | cafuego | ludi: Alternatively, 'rcconf' could be your friend. |
| 23:09.42 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: good for you |
| 23:09.48 | streuner | heh |
| 23:09.52 | cartel_ | guys is there a doc about migrating from debian apache 1.0.3 to apache2? |
| 23:09.55 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: then ? |
| 23:09.59 | shingouz | ArchitectSinan: /msg dpkg mmap |
| 23:10.09 | ArchitectSinan | thx shingouz |
| 23:10.10 | Thanatermesis | humm... ethics , Im delete the 14 Kb frequence in the equalizator and the sound are cleaned ? |
| 23:10.11 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: you are in sarge. no then |
| 23:10.16 | SbCl3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.18 | cartel_ | debian apache2 at least in sarge looks really confusing and unnescessarily complex (sites-available, sites-enabled) |
| 23:10.24 | ludi | bahamut: I do "update-rc.d -n -f portmap remove" and "S18portmap -> ../init.d/portmap" is still in my /etc/rc2.d directory |
| 23:10.25 | deadcat | SbCl3: startkde |
| 23:10.47 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: i'm not in sarge. still using woody, wants to dist-upgrade to sarge |
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| 23:10.58 | bahamat | ludi: man update-rc.d |
| 23:11.07 | SbCl3 | it says the command wasn't found |
| 23:11.07 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: then you followed the wrong instruction |
| 23:11.13 | deadcat | !woody->sarge |
| 23:11.19 | cartel_ | it actually looks like a masochist designed it |
| 23:11.29 | deadcat | !stable->testing |
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| 23:11.49 | simonrvn | @p2-mate++ |
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| 23:11.56 | paulswm | cartel_: I went from 2 then back to 1 and was thinking about writing a doc on how to migrate. A simple doc: one word: don't :) |
| 23:11.59 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: i did what exacyl dpkg told me |
| 23:12.12 | deadcat | SbCl3: DONT /msg me |
| 23:12.18 | masf | hi everybody |
| 23:12.19 | ArchitectSinan | i installed aptitude with "apt-get install aptitude" |
| 23:12.27 | SbCl3 | sorry |
| 23:12.29 | cartel_ | paulswm: yeah its just strange |
| 23:12.30 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: did you edit the file and change stable to testing? then update && dist-upgradE? |
| 23:12.36 | ArchitectSinan | and then replaced "stable"s to "sarge" |
| 23:12.57 | deadcat | SbCl3: just install kdm and then select kde from the list. |
| 23:13.05 | ArchitectSinan | "well, woody->sarge is Then "apt-get install aptitude". Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" or "stable" to "sarge". Then, "aptitude update" and "aptitude dist-upgrade". consider installing hotplug and/or discover1 if you're not confident with linux hardware management." |
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| 23:13.20 | paulswm | cartel_: I installed it, read the docs, decided that life was hard enough already and dropped back to 1. I've seen remarks in here suggesting the migration's not a good idea, but I can't speak to security, etc |
| 23:13.26 | ArchitectSinan | dpkg tells me to change "stable" to "sarge" in sources.list |
| 23:13.33 | ArchitectSinan | i did it |
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| 23:13.44 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: did you di apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 23:13.47 | ArchitectSinan | and then run "aptitude update" and i got the errors that i mention |
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| 23:13.55 | marccd_ | what was the dpkg reconfigure command to reconfigure the base system? |
| 23:14.00 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: fix that error then |
| 23:14.05 | ArchitectSinan | i got the errors after running "aptitude update" |
| 23:14.09 | satHan | hey all, anyone know why my fat32 formatted usb disk gives a "cannot create directory" error when I try to mkdir on it? |
| 23:14.14 | masf | i have a sound target integrated in mother board, my debian linux don't play sound. how i can to solve the problem????? |
| 23:14.16 | stew | ArchitectSinan: did you read /msg dpkg dynamic mmap |
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| 23:14.26 | satHan | masf: lspci and find your soundcard |
| 23:14.35 | ludi | what about "113/tcp open auth" I don't see anything in /etc/services that corresponds to this |
| 23:14.45 | ArchitectSinan | stew: i read and did what does it say. but i want to answer deadcat's questions also |
| 23:14.55 | deadcat | ludi: /etc/rcS.d |
| 23:15.00 | Solet | how do i completely get rid of kde? |
| 23:15.07 | simonrvn | p2-mate: should i just make a copy of my current kernel and gzip it to test it? |
| 23:15.09 | deadcat | Solet: debfoster |
| 23:15.21 | stew | ArchitectSinan: if you did what that factoid said you'd no longer be getting dynamic mmap ran out of room |
| 23:15.21 | deadcat | Solet: use P when you run that program |
| 23:15.22 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: i have done "apt-get update" before install the aptitude |
| 23:15.23 | Solet | ? |
| 23:15.30 | stew | Solet: /msg dpkg remove kde |
| 23:15.34 | ludi | deadcat: don't see anything in /etc/rcS.d that corresponds to "auth" |
| 23:15.40 | p2-mate | simonrvn: yes. that worked for me |
| 23:15.41 | SbCl3 | what is kdm? |
| 23:15.46 | stew | !kdm |
| 23:15.46 | dpkg | from memory, kdm is the KDE Display Manager - an even swankier version of xdm, for the K Desktop user |
| 23:15.49 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: might just be the server is down or something. i have trouble with ftp.us.debian.org jst now |
| 23:15.49 | simonrvn | p2-mate: ok |
| 23:15.57 | masf | Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Sound Controller (rev a0)->>>how i can configure it??? |
| 23:16.03 | ArchitectSinan | but i didn't do "apt-get dist-upgrade" a friend told me that i cannot do "apg-get dist-upgrade" for woody->sarge |
| 23:16.03 | deadcat | ludi: theres a portmap in there |
| 23:16.13 | ArchitectSinan | that's why i have needed the "aptitude" |
| 23:16.17 | stew | ludi: auth/113 == identd |
| 23:16.19 | satHan | masf: did you build your kernel yourself, or is it stock debian? |
| 23:16.34 | directhex | ArchitectSinan, the recommendation from the debian team is to use aptitude, not apt-get, for upgrading woody to sarge |
| 23:16.34 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: fuck your friend.s hes a dumb fuck |
| 23:16.41 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: ok thx. btw, i'm using a local deb source ftp.tr.debian.org |
| 23:16.44 | masf | it's stock debian |
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| 23:16.48 | stew | deadcat: no his friend is right |
| 23:16.55 | stew | deadcat: apt-get doesn't work for woody->sarge |
| 23:16.59 | simonrvn | p2-mate: gzip -9 ? wondering if the compression ratio will matter |
| 23:17.08 | stew | deadcat: i'm the one who told him, i'm not a dumb fuck |
| 23:17.09 | p2-mate | I used gzip -9 |
| 23:17.09 | ArchitectSinan | directhex: that's why i use aptitude :) |
| 23:17.10 | deadcat | stew: damn. really? |
| 23:17.15 | simonrvn | ok |
| 23:17.16 | deadcat | stew: (= |
| 23:17.17 | satHan | masf: ok, first thing try su'ing to root and try to play some music |
| 23:17.20 | stew | deadcat: yeah, it was documented in dwm |
| 23:17.23 | stew | err dwn |
| 23:17.32 | thingfish | directhex: are they recommending aptitude over apt-get in general, like for normal upgrading? |
| 23:17.33 | marccd_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.36 | stew | deadcat: and the sarge release notes say to use aptitude not apt-get |
| 23:17.41 | deadcat | stew: woody->sid works fine for me.so i assume it will work with sarge too |
| 23:17.42 | ludi | what is identd used for? |
| 23:17.42 | Paganist | in the package kernel-patch-adamantix is supposed (It's in the description) to be the LVS ( linux virtual server ) patch for the kernel.... when i look in patches, i only see adamantix pax rsbac.... nothing else. Any idea if LVS is in one of those patches or if LVS simply isn't present ? |
| 23:18.01 | satHan | marccd_: dpkg-reconfigure base-config |
| 23:18.05 | cafuego | ludi: Whiching which user account is connecting out through a specific port. |
| 23:18.10 | cafuego | ludi: checking, too. |
| 23:18.15 | marccd_ | satHan: thanks |
| 23:18.18 | simonrvn | p2-mate: oh, wow, hehe: vmlinux-2.6.11.6-pylon.gzipped.gz |
| 23:18.24 | stew | deadcat: no it doesn't work correctly for either, it fucks up on large circular dependencies, you end up having to apt-get dist-upgrade ; apt-get -f install over and over until it gets it all worked out |
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| 23:18.26 | deadcat | ludi: why you isntall all these shits when you dont even know what the are |
| 23:18.29 | simonrvn | p2-mate: 2.4 MB |
| 23:18.30 | cafuego | ludi: yes, you can disable it. Edit /etc/initd.conf |
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| 23:18.41 | thingfish | directhex: I mean, is apt-get being deprecated in favor of aptitude? |
| 23:18.42 | cafuego | deadcat: Probably installed aset of task packages. |
| 23:18.45 | simonrvn | p2-mate: was 5.5 |
| 23:18.49 | deadcat | stew: works fine for me though. |
| 23:18.52 | masf | satHan, and if that fail, what?? |
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| 23:18.55 | ludi | cafuego: you mean /etc/inetd.conf right? |
| 23:19.02 | cafuego | ludi: yes |
| 23:19.04 | simonrvn | thingfish: no |
| 23:19.09 | satHan | masf: it depends, we'd try to set up alsa next.. |
| 23:19.11 | cafuego | ludi: I've only had one coffee after falling out of bed. |
| 23:19.13 | satHan | masf: did it fail? |
| 23:19.20 | ArchitectSinan | i added 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' creating a file names /etc/apt/apt.conf. And run "aptitude update" again and "all done" now :) |
| 23:19.25 | thingfish | oh ok, thanks, simonrvn. |
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| 23:19.31 | ludi | cafuego: so do I comment out the line "ident stream tcp wait identd /usr/sbin/identd identd" ? |
| 23:19.40 | cafuego | ludi: yes |
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| 23:19.57 | deadcat | stew: what if someone who doesnt like aptitude? they are screwed? |
| 23:20.00 | directhex | thingfish, no, it's simply different |
| 23:20.12 | masf | satHan, yes, it fail |
| 23:20.28 | SbCl3 | what does uname -r do, again? |
| 23:20.30 | directhex | thingfish, dselect is considered deprecated compared to aptitude, though apt-get, aptitude and dselect all have their own uses |
| 23:20.38 | deadcat | SbCl3: run it and find out |
| 23:20.39 | Thanatermesis | humm... ethics , Im delete the 14 Kb frequence in the equalizator and the sound are cleaned ? |
| 23:20.54 | thingfish | directhex: ok thanks, I was wondering. |
| 23:21.17 | darkcmd | dselect is just a dpkg frontend right |
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| 23:21.18 | deadcat | whats the best way to setup an account that only does rsync? |
| 23:21.20 | satHan | masf: alright now check and see if the correct module is loaded. so, su modconf |
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| 23:21.32 | Optikal | I am having issues with my USB keyboard and the installer for Debian |
| 23:21.38 | SbCl3 | i ran it |
| 23:21.42 | SbCl3 | i got a line of text or so |
| 23:21.50 | deadcat | tahts what it does |
| 23:21.55 | satHan | SbCl3: tells you what kernel you're running |
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| 23:22.00 | directhex | Optikal, which version of debian? |
| 23:22.08 | Optikal | Latest |
| 23:22.10 | Optikal | stable |
| 23:22.14 | Optikal | Erm.. 1 sec |
| 23:22.19 | masf | satHan, what command?? |
| 23:22.23 | deadcat | Optikal: lastest and stable DONT mix |
| 23:22.26 | Optikal | 30r1 |
| 23:22.27 | longshot | how i install nvidia kernel module ? |
| 23:22.38 | satHan | masf: as root, modconf and look in the sound/drivers directory for your card |
| 23:22.40 | deadcat | !nvidia-one-liner |
| 23:22.43 | cafuego | The latest stable is 3.0r4 actually ;-) |
| 23:22.55 | satHan | !tell longshot nvidia |
| 23:22.57 | Optikal | Oh =) |
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| 23:23.03 | Optikal | Okay, well I have 3.0r1 |
| 23:23.15 | directhex | Optikal, try typing 'bf24' at the boot prompt |
| 23:23.17 | masf | satHan, i don't have modconf command |
| 23:23.23 | Optikal | directhex: k. |
| 23:23.29 | deadcat | masf: apt-get it |
| 23:23.32 | satHan | masf: apt-get install modconf |
| 23:23.38 | masf | ok |
| 23:23.50 | deadcat | cafuego: best way to seutp an account for rsync only? |
| 23:23.55 | carlos_ | any E17 users here? |
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| 23:24.05 | cafuego | deadcat: cron |
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| 23:24.57 | deadcat | cafuego: remote machine is uploading to my desktop at night with passwordless. should i setup rbash for that account? |
| 23:24.57 | ArchitectSinan | now another problem: after "aptitude update" run perfectly i run "aptitude dist-upgrade" and got error message saying "Some packages had unmet dependencies. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. |
| 23:24.58 | ArchitectSinan | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
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| 23:25.10 | ArchitectSinan | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.13 | ArchitectSinan | and so on |
| 23:25.18 | SbCl3 | can someone tell me whether or not KDE is actually stored on the installation disk? |
| 23:25.20 | ArchitectSinan | what should i do now ? |
| 23:25.23 | SbCl3 | or do i have to get it from somewhere else? |
| 23:25.25 | bltzfsck | trying to listen to music samples on amazon.com, realplay 10.2 says the audio codec is obsolete and no longer supported |
| 23:25.31 | satHan | SbCl3: what cd do you have? |
| 23:25.31 | bltzfsck | am i just SOL? |
| 23:25.39 | deadcat | SbCl3: depends which instllation disk you have |
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| 23:26.00 | satHan | bltzfsck: try using gxine with the win32 codecs, that works for me |
| 23:26.06 | SbCl3 | debian-30r2-i386-binary-1 |
| 23:26.23 | satHan | SbCl3: do you have any other sources in your sources.list? |
| 23:26.25 | deadcat | SbCl3: its in there. but thats like kde 3.0 or even older |
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| 23:26.38 | longshot | debian seems pretty easy comparing it to slack |
| 23:26.40 | bltzfsck | sathan not sure if i have it, but i'll check. thanks |
| 23:27.00 | deadcat | longshot: good to know |
| 23:27.15 | SbCl3 | i installed it, but at the bash prompt, I can't get KDE to start. |
| 23:27.22 | longshot | the install is easier than winxp |
| 23:27.27 | cartel_ | cool, well that turned out to be painless |
| 23:27.35 | ArchitectSinan | stew, deadcat: guys what should i do now ? |
| 23:27.39 | satHan | SbCl3: startkde? |
| 23:27.53 | daft | longshot: never used slack I used debian after redhat make 20 2 Gig partitions of my 18 GB drive |
| 23:28.04 | daft | s/make/made |
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| 23:28.05 | SbCl3 | "startkde" did not work |
| 23:28.11 | ArchitectSinan | "aptitude dist-upgrade" gives me error :( |
| 23:28.12 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: just answer yes and let some packages break. you can wait few days to update again to fix the problem. |
| 23:28.18 | directhex | !info kicker woody |
| 23:28.30 | satHan | SbCl3: apt-get install kde has already run? |
| 23:28.38 | directhex | SbCl3, did you install kde? (apt-get install kde) |
| 23:28.44 | simonrvn | SbCl3: add 'exec startkde' to ~/.xsession, and chmod +x ~/.xsession |
| 23:28.47 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: it doesn't ask me something that i can answer ? |
| 23:28.54 | bltzfsck | satHan, you da man! thx |
| 23:29.00 | SbCl3 | i don't think it was "apt-get" |
| 23:29.02 | lapsey | I am making a commandline program shortcut in gnome, is this possible?: "// spy gunner |
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| 23:29.15 | cat | lapsey: everything is possible |
| 23:29.18 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: it will ask you few questions later. |
| 23:29.29 | lapsey | "cd /blah/blah; java program" |
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| 23:29.38 | lapsey | sory cat, wrong clipboard |
| 23:29.40 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: it didn't :( |
| 23:29.43 | SbCl3 | i couldn't connect to the internet, so i tried to get it from the disk |
| 23:29.48 | SbCl3 | i clicked "f" for finish |
| 23:29.53 | SbCl3 | and it took me to this text screen |
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| 23:30.00 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat:and stopped |
| 23:30.03 | SbCl3 | where it asked me for "yes" or "no" |
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| 23:30.18 | JRWR | SARGE BROKE MY COMPUTER! ;( |
| 23:30.24 | daft | bte kinda offtopic question If you edit an Gnu licensed source its automaticly gnu licesent? |
| 23:30.29 | deadcat | thats why i dont use sarge |
| 23:30.29 | cafuego | JRWR: Stop lying. |
| 23:30.31 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: the error messages are related with "unmet dependencies" |
| 23:30.35 | JRWR | no really |
| 23:30.37 | smagy2 | hello folks i am planning to convert high traffic redhat webserver to debian. need opinions on imporving the partition scheme. the current scheme is at http://rafb.net/paste/results/lv7AoT95.html |
| 23:30.39 | cat | how can sarge brake you'r computer? |
| 23:30.48 | cafuego | JRWR: Sarge just magically appeared on your computer? |
| 23:30.54 | longshot | nvidia is nvram.o ? |
| 23:30.54 | JRWR | A) GRUB is really slow! |
| 23:30.55 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: wait few days to dist-upgrade then (= |
| 23:30.56 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: like e2fsprogs, coreutils, dpkg, sysvinit |
| 23:31.01 | deadcat | longshot: no |
| 23:31.03 | cafuego | longshot: no. |
| 23:31.06 | deadcat | longshot: use NV for now. |
| 23:31.13 | JRWR | B)some how i lost 4gigs of data |
| 23:31.16 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: i can't believe this |
| 23:31.19 | satHan | smagy2: you sure you need that much tmp? |
| 23:31.24 | satHan | smagy2: how much ram does the box have? |
| 23:31.54 | deadcat | ArchitectSinan: see /topic (= |
| 23:31.54 | smagy2 | satHan: 2 GB |
| 23:31.54 | sanmarcos | I am getting a weird error, when I am as a normal user, and I try to su to root, I get auth failure, but I put the right password, I tried changing the password with single, I still get the same problem, I checked chkrootkit, and no, I wanst hacked, but a few days ago I was having problems with my permissions beign changed because a wront line in fstab (I guess), any ideas?, even sudo tellsme must set uid to root.. I am lost.. |
| 23:31.54 | sanmarcos | But I can login as root, but If I am logged on as a normal user, I cant su... |
| 23:31.57 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: ok then :( |
| 23:32.07 | longshot | where do you set init levels ? i dont want gdm login |
| 23:32.08 | deadcat | sanmarcos: maybe your pamd is set that only users in wheels can su |
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| 23:32.08 | cafuego | smagy2: Use tmpfs as /tmp instead |
| 23:32.13 | daft | smagy2: swap isnt tmp swap is a addon to the memmory tmp is temporaly storage |
| 23:32.18 | deadcat | longshot: apt-get remove gdm |
| 23:32.21 | abrotman | sanmarcos: did you mess with pam? |
| 23:32.21 | JRWR | C) Windows is having a fit |
| 23:32.29 | sanmarcos | deadcat: It used to work just a few days ago before the perm problem, no I dont even know aht pam is abrotman |
| 23:32.32 | JRWR | First thing |
| 23:32.33 | abrotman | deadcat: we don't have wheel in debian by default |
| 23:32.34 | directhex | !nodm |
| 23:32.34 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 23:32.35 | sanmarcos | but how can I check deadcat ? |
| 23:32.40 | smagy2 | satHan: i am not too experienced in the matters of tmp requirements so hence the question, there would be mysql running |
| 23:32.43 | JRWR | I WHANT MY 4GIGs OF PORN BACK! |
| 23:32.53 | satHan | smagy2: tmp is for user temp files |
| 23:32.56 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: they should have these perms, looks like they don't: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 28K 2005-04-04 18:33 /bin/su; -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 103K 2005-03-27 02:31 /usr/bin/sudo |
| 23:32.58 | abrotman | JRWR: wrong channel? |
| 23:33.01 | JRWR | no |
| 23:33.04 | JRWR | shee |
| 23:33.05 | JRWR | see |
| 23:33.05 | satHan | smagy2: you want to use *swap* space if you think you'll be short on ram |
| 23:33.08 | cafuego | JRWR: Time travel hasn't been invented yet. |
| 23:33.09 | smagy2 | cafuego: where can i read about advantanges of tmpfs over /tmp ? |
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| 23:33.10 | lapsey | JRAW better ask for some caution in using unstable |
| 23:33.18 | cafuego | smagy2: google perhaps |
| 23:33.20 | JRWR | when i installed sarge into a partion |
| 23:33.21 | deadcat | !ops kick JRWR |
| 23:33.21 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: kick JRWR |
| 23:33.24 | abrotman | JRWR: which FS is the porn on? |
| 23:33.33 | abrotman | deadcat: i htink he's really asking for help |
| 23:34.21 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 23416 2005-03-15 04:59 /bin/su -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 97208 2004-11-17 12:16 /usr/bin/sudo |
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| 23:34.22 | JRWR | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.22 | deadcat | abrotman: doesnt seem like it. hes whining about loosing his 4gig of porn |
| 23:34.22 | JRWR | windows has a fit |
| 23:34.22 | abrotman | deadcat: let him finish maybe? .. he's in here a lot |
| 23:34.22 | JRWR | but debina reads it ok |
| 23:34.22 | JRWR | its FAT32 |
| 23:34.22 | abrotman | JRWR: which FS is it? |
| 23:34.22 | smagy2 | daft: i am not confused about swap and tmp, i am considering the situations when multiple folks upload files and php scripts upload the files temporarly to /tmp |
| 23:34.25 | abrotman | JRWR: explain how windows has a fit? |
| 23:34.26 | JRWR | ^^ |
| 23:34.28 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: hmm. run out of room on the partition? paste to me what /etc/pam.d/su says |
| 23:34.28 | deadcat | abrotman: i've never seen hinm here before. (= |
| 23:34.31 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: but everything else in /bin has -rwxrwxrwx (777), anyways, I am totally lost |
| 23:34.35 | abrotman | !seen JRWR |
| 23:34.36 | dpkg | jrwr is currently on #debian (4m 37s). Has said a total of 646 messages. Is idling for 10s |
| 23:34.38 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: yikes |
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| 23:34.41 | abrotman | deadcat: see |
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| 23:34.47 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: /dev/hda2 19G 18G 260M 99% /, has been working fine like that |
| 23:34.55 | abrotman | sanmarcos: that's not right btw :) |
| 23:35.03 | sanmarcos | abrotman: I know |
| 23:35.04 | SbCl3 | nothing I do gets kde to work |
| 23:35.08 | SbCl3 | can i get it at KDE.org? |
| 23:35.16 | abrotman | SbCl3: #debian-kde |
| 23:35.21 | RichiH | deadcat: calling for ops without any real reason and with crappy taglines is a good way the not be liked by them ;) |
| 23:35.23 | SbCl3 | #debian-kde |
| 23:35.24 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: http://pastebin.com/268177 |
| 23:35.27 | abrotman | JRWR: define "windows doesn't like it" |
| 23:35.28 | SbCl3 | whoops |
| 23:35.29 | deadcat | SbCl3: if you cant get the kde deb to work i doubt you get get it from kde.org to work |
| 23:35.31 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: you're going to have to chmod them one by one and fix each of them |
| 23:35.33 | abrotman | SbCl3: /j #debian-kde :) |
| 23:35.43 | JRWR | when i do a fdisk to even see if windows sees it as a unformatted drive |
| 23:35.45 | deadcat | RichiH: (=. most of them dont like me anyway |
| 23:36.11 | ArchitectSinan | deadcat: i'll try another mirror from apt-setup's list |
| 23:36.15 | JRWR | just a blank space |
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| 23:36.19 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: or reinstall them.. su has the right perms on my /bin only because I reinstalled "login" |
| 23:36.21 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: haven't even touched it, eh? :) that's ok though |
| 23:36.25 | Optikal | Okay, keyboard works now |
| 23:36.29 | abrotman | deadcat: guess you know why? :) |
| 23:36.31 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: yeh. you can do that |
| 23:36.35 | Optikal | Now how do I get it to recognise my ATA RAID Drive? |
| 23:36.37 | deadcat | abrotman: (= |
| 23:36.57 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: dpkg -S /path/to/file to find what package they go in |
| 23:36.58 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: but I am totally lost, this never happened to me, isnt there logs anywhere on login attempts? |
| 23:37.04 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: yea |
| 23:37.09 | JRWR | linux picks it up as vfat |
| 23:37.10 | abrotman | JRWR: ok .. here's the deal .. we don't do windows here .. copy the data from your fat32 to linux .. then reboot to windows .. reformat the drive .. reboot to linux .. copy the data back .. reboot to windows .. see if it's there .. and then jerk off? |
| 23:37.12 | simonrvn | yes. in /var/log/auth.log |
| 23:37.12 | abrotman | :) |
| 23:37.20 | abrotman | JRWR: it is vfat |
| 23:37.34 | Thanatermesis | humm... ethics , Im delete the 14 Kb frequence in the equalizator and the sound are cleaned ? |
| 23:37.44 | jbAU | anyone have much experience with framebuffers? i can't get my box to load up with vesafb |
| 23:37.46 | JRWR | ok |
| 23:37.54 | lapsey | I am wondering how I can put a bash "cd /blah/blah/; java blah" command into a terminal program launcher in gnome. Nothing seems to happen |
| 23:37.57 | JRWR | you know where i can get QTpart |
| 23:38.01 | abrotman | no |
| 23:38.02 | directhex | jbAU, what do you need? |
| 23:38.03 | p2-mate | simonrvn: and it still boots ? nice :) |
| 23:38.07 | p2-mate | simonrvn: which machine ? |
| 23:38.13 | JRWR | ill just use knoppix |
| 23:38.15 | JRWR | bye\ |
| 23:38.16 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: Apr 6 16:38:01 athlon unix_chkpwd[6088]: check pass; user unknown |
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| 23:38.22 | simonrvn | p2-mate: haven't yet |
| 23:38.25 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: Apr 6 16:38:01 athlon su[6087]: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=1000 euid=1000 tty=pts/1 ruser=marccd rhost= user=root |
| 23:38.32 | abrotman | lapsey: they don't work .. you can make an alias perhaps .. or put a small script in ~/bin and add ~/bin to your path |
| 23:38.32 | jbAU | directhex: I just want to have something looking better then the standard console |
| 23:38.33 | deadcat | qpartd is the name i think |
| 23:38.39 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: um, don't paste that publically |
| 23:38.44 | lapsey | thanksm thats a good idea abrotman |
| 23:38.47 | masf | satHan, i have installed modconf but i don't know what the module of my sound car |
| 23:38.49 | abrotman | lapsey: but if you ever figure it out(it used to work) .. let me know :) |
| 23:38.51 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: too late |
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| 23:39.04 | satHan | masf: look for something with sis in it, you'll probably find it there |
| 23:39.04 | jbAU | directhex: i had vesafb working, but then i compiled a new kernel (2.6.11) with vesafb compiled in (not a module) and it don't work |
| 23:39.16 | directhex | jbAU, add "vga=792" to the kernel append line in lilo.conf/menu.lst |
| 23:39.23 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: user unknown ?, |
| 23:39.27 | directhex | jbAU, why compile your own kernel instead of using a debian kernel? |
| 23:39.33 | xiaogil | hi |
| 23:39.35 | xiaogil | how to tell the system which font to use for which language ? |
| 23:39.48 | jbAU | directhex: cause the debian kernel doesn't have mppe support (for pptp vpn's) |
| 23:40.02 | jbAU | directhex: i am using the debian source hto |
| 23:40.07 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: what does getent passwd marccd say? |
| 23:40.29 | simonrvn | getent++ |
| 23:40.40 | deadcat | dont kow if you guys know this or not, when you create a user with /bin/rbash, its PATH is what ever in /etc/profile and appends $HOME/bin to the end, its fine if you set the path for that user to be empty, but you can still run any command with "ssh user@where command". which makes rbash pointless? |
| 23:41.09 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: marccd:x:1000:1000:Marc XX,,,:/home/marccd:/bin/bash |
| 23:41.20 | darkcmd | cdrecord isn't working with my 2.6.8 debian kernel |
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| 23:41.36 | deadcat | darkcmd: define isnt working |
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| 23:41.53 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: ok, what's common-auth, common-account and common-session say? (in /etc/pam.d) |
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| 23:43.11 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: I havent touched anything with pam.d.. common-auth: auth required pam_unix.so nullok_secure --- common-account: account required pam_unix.so --- common-session: session required pam_unix.so |
| 23:43.29 | simonrvn | looks like the defaults |
| 23:43.39 | abrotman | su - any different than just su ? |
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| 23:43.49 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: well, fix your perms, and we'll see what's up |
| 23:43.51 | deadcat | abrotman: su - gets root's ENV |
| 23:43.54 | sanmarcos | abrotman: - make this a login shell |
| 23:43.57 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: and yes, do su - |
| 23:44.02 | abrotman | deadcat: i know .. thank you :) |
| 23:44.08 | abrotman | deadcat: you're a smart one :) |
| 23:44.12 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: same |
| 23:44.19 | deadcat | abrotman: the smartest (= |
| 23:44.19 | simonrvn | :| |
| 23:44.22 | Gumby | I have a quick question about apt-file. I am looking into creating my own repository for personal use but I dont know how to generate the "Contents-i386.gz" file that apt-file grabs during an update. Does anyone know how this gets created? |
| 23:44.26 | thingfish | I knew he knew. |
| 23:44.33 | cafuego | look at the weird puppy |
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| 23:44.51 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: As I see, most of them are -rwxr-xr-x or l (that for simlinks).. |
| 23:44.59 | nSe | is there any linux software compared to sound forge 8 ? if there is, what is it's name? |
| 23:45.00 | sanmarcos | simonrvn: What I should set them to, I mean |
| 23:45.00 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: what's /etc/nsswitch.conf look like? |
| 23:45.16 | simonrvn | sanmarcos: paste to me in /msg, ok? |
| 23:45.23 | toad | what's up with sid today? |
| 23:45.27 | simonrvn | (should have said that before...) |
| 23:45.30 | toad | or is it just my configuration? |
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| 23:46.00 | toad | nSe: audacity maybe? iirc there are some better ones than that though |
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| 23:46.33 | nSe | toad: i'll try that one, thank you... |
| 23:46.59 | toad | apt-get upgrade wants to downgrade about a hundred packages |
| 23:47.11 | toad | apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove a whole bunch of essential packages |
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| 23:47.34 | thingfish | sounds fun. |
| 23:47.37 | nSe | toad: uhauhehe... go back to sarge.... |
| 23:47.43 | toad | anything in particular happening with sid or is it just my local config? is there a problem with my local config? or should i just wait it out? |
| 23:47.59 | toad | nSe: that would be the same as waiting :) |
| 23:48.09 | deadcat | i think the debian repos are pretty f'ed up the pass few days |
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| 23:48.47 | CharlesBrown | What to I message dpkg with to get info on when gnomebaker is going to be in repositories |
| 23:49.04 | thingfish | 22.8MB of upgrades here, nothing else. |
| 23:49.16 | deadcat | CharlesBrown: none. for sarge or sid? |
| 23:49.25 | toad | also my PC hangs a lot.. i don't know if it is the kernel (2.6.11.6, was 2.6.11), the proprietary nvidia driver, or the X11... |
| 23:49.30 | CharlesBrown | deadcat, sarge |
| 23:49.33 | CharlesBrown | deadcat, I know |
| 23:49.33 | toad | thingfish: for sid? |
| 23:49.35 | CharlesBrown | I want to know when. |
| 23:49.44 | thingfish | toad: yes. |
| 23:49.57 | deadcat | CharlesBrown: no clue. for sid i use upcoming.d.o |
| 23:50.07 | toad | thingfish: what do you have in your apt.conf? |
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| 23:50.26 | deadcat | CharlesBrown: incoming.d.o |
| 23:50.31 | toad | thingfish: i was told that the best thing is to have stable, testing and unstable sources and let apt sort it out |
| 23:50.51 | chealer | !why is gnomebaker not in testing |
| 23:50.54 | dpkg | gnomebaker is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=gnomebaker |
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| 23:51.07 | CharlesBrown | yea, that |
| 23:51.08 | CharlesBrown | lol |
| 23:51.10 | CharlesBrown | thanks |
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| 23:51.21 | thingfish | toad: I have only unstable. |
| 23:51.33 | CharlesBrown | "gnomebaker is only 6 days old. It must be 10 days old to go in." |
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| 23:51.38 | CharlesBrown | It said that yesterday same time. |
| 23:51.41 | toad | thingfish: that might be why... |
| 23:51.44 | CharlesBrown | Shouldn't it say it's 7 days old now? |
| 23:51.46 | thingfish | and it's not apt.conf, it's sources.list is what I think you mean. |
| 23:51.49 | toad | is it generally a good idea to have all of them? |
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| 23:51.55 | toad | yes i mean sources.list |
| 23:52.06 | smagy2 | hello folks, is it possible to have a reiserfs filesystem using the kernels from the stable tree during installation time, or how does go about it |
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| 23:52.31 | toad | smagy2: the sarge installer can do both reiserfs and LVM |
| 23:52.33 | abrotman | smagy2: you mean woody? |
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| 23:53.16 | smagy2 | abrotman: yeah, is that not the current stable tree ? |
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| 23:53.23 | thingfish | toad: couldn't really tell you, not real sure what the in-the-know people do, but I just keep the one. |
| 23:53.37 | toad | thingfish: i thought that testing and unstable were sort of patchsets against stable.. that unstable is not actually a real distribution, so you need the others in too |
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| 23:54.10 | thingfish | toad: well then by all means go by what you've heard or read. |
| 23:54.54 | lizthegrey | I'm quite certain that testing and unstable are completely independent of stable - here's perhaps why you're confused |
| 23:55.08 | toad | lizthegrey: hmm? |
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| 23:55.18 | abrotman | smagy2: it is .. i was just making sure |
| 23:55.24 | lizthegrey | The deal is that all packages across all releases are placed in the package pool, which is shared across all releases. |
| 23:55.33 | abrotman | smagy2: did you check the install guide? |
| 23:55.36 | drasko | hi all. How to share internet connection between two ubuntus. Mine is 192.168.0.1 and other is 192.168.0.2 |
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| 23:55.50 | lizthegrey | !tell drasko about ubuntu |
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| 23:56.14 | toad | lizthegrey: so unstable is a distribution in and of itself, and is self-contained? |
| 23:56.18 | lizthegrey | Anyways... unstable is completely self-contained. |
| 23:56.24 | drasko | hi all. How to share internet connection between two debians. Mine is 192.168.0.1 and other is 192.168.0.2 |
| 23:56.33 | abrotman | !ig |
| 23:56.33 | dpkg | it has been said that ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
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| 23:56.47 | toad | okay.. but you might want testing in case of dependancy mess-ups? |
| 23:56.48 | abrotman | drasko: yes .. ipmasq,nat,etc |
| 23:56.53 | abrotman | !nat |
| 23:56.53 | dpkg | well, nat is Network Address Translation. See also ipmasq, or patented by CISCO, or ip-masq is not exactly like NAT, the former is more fexible while the latter gains widely recognition. see also 'netfilter docs', or $BROWSER /usr/share/doc/iptables/html/NAT-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.1 |
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| 23:57.07 | abrotman | !ipmasq |
| 23:57.07 | dpkg | IP masquerading allows several machines to share one Internet connection. Learn about it at http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/linux-ip-masq.html or don't mix the slink ipmasq deb and a 2.2.x kernel, or available at ipmasq.cjb.net, or ipmasq package is evil, before coming here to ask help with unexpected network problems, first remove it! See also: masq |
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| 23:57.13 | abrotman | drasko: help enough? |
| 23:57.15 | lizthegrey | Exactly, packages only move to testing from unstable when they're less buggy than the packages already in testing |
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| 23:57.22 | lizthegrey | AND there are no dependency problems. |
| 23:57.27 | deadcat | there is one factoid that shows the iptables command to setup nat |
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| 23:58.01 | lapsey | well, I just tried launching // spy gunner |
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| 23:58.14 | toad | lizthegrey: so it is beneficial to have testing as well as unstable? does the order in the sources.list matter? |
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| 23:58.30 | lizthegrey | It depends what sort of system you want to be running, and the order in sources.list doesn't matter |
| 23:58.49 | lizthegrey | Chances are, if you don't understand the packaging system and dependencies, etc. well, then you shouldn't be running sid |
| 23:58.50 | lapsey | I need to remember that realVNC does not support clipboard import |
| 23:59.01 | abrotman | lizthegrey: not quite |
| 23:59.08 | cafuego | Look, custard. |
| 23:59.13 | Solet | lapsey: the registered version is supposed to |
| 23:59.13 | abrotman | lizthegrey: they move if there are no massive bugs filed against them .. not less buggy :) |
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| 23:59.22 | lizthegrey | because things WILL break in unstable, and you'll be expected to know how to fix them on your own. |
| 23:59.27 | thingfish | oh gosh I love custard. |
| 23:59.38 | Guerin | toad: man sources.list |
| 23:59.39 | abrotman | ravenbird: wb |
| 23:59.40 | ravenbird | thanks, abrotman. It's good to be back. |
| 23:59.55 | Guerin | toad: don't return with your questions until you've read and understood it |
| 23:59.58 | drasko | abrotman, yes... So I have to go with NAT? I used Firestarter for this, and it worked ok, until desktop on other machine swiched from XP to Linux... Now this other machine can ping me, but can not see internet. |
| 23:59.59 | lapsey | well, I just tried launching gnome-terminal -x bash /home/runsomething.bash; it dies on me :(. Any ideas guys>? |
