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| 00:00.42 | astronut | What's an easy proxy to set up? and by proxy, I mean proxy server (squid), not an open proxy to use |
| 00:01.15 | citral | the question already contains the answer... |
| 00:01.23 | astronut | is it easy? |
| 00:01.39 | citral | bah with a good howto it's not hard |
| 00:01.40 | astronut | i didn't know if setting up squid was like setting up postfix or sendmail |
| 00:01.45 | astronut | citral: you know of one? |
| 00:01.47 | PerfDave | astronut: What do you want it to do? |
| 00:01.47 | astronut | what i'm trying to do |
| 00:01.56 | astronut | is set up an SSH tunnel from school using putty |
| 00:01.58 | astronut | to my home box |
| 00:02.00 | mosty | astronut, see the squid howto |
| 00:02.01 | PerfDave | astronut: tinyprox |
| 00:02.02 | PerfDave | astronut: tinyproxy |
| 00:02.03 | astronut | and forwarding it to the squid |
| 00:02.08 | astronut | or tinyproxy |
| 00:02.19 | astronut | PerfDave: the name makes it sound easier |
| 00:02.24 | PerfDave | tinyproxy is a piece of piss to set up, it's what I use to tunnel my HTTP traffic over SSH |
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| 00:02.41 | astronut | thnaks PerfDave |
| 00:02.43 | astronut | that's what i want |
| 00:02.54 | astronut | does dpkg-configure do it all, or is that wistfull thinking? |
| 00:03.07 | PerfDave | astronut: I think so, but the config file's nice and easy anyway |
| 00:03.14 | astronut | didn't |
| 00:03.16 | astronut | jsut started it |
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| 00:03.31 | PerfDave | astronut: That's all the setting up you need :) |
| 00:03.35 | astronut | nice proxy |
| 00:03.38 | astronut | conf rather |
| 00:03.40 | astronut | s/proxy/conf |
| 00:03.48 | astronut | PerfDave: well, i'd like to limit it to localhost :-P |
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| 00:04.01 | PerfDave | astronut: I think it only listens on localhost by default, could be wrong though. |
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| 00:04.04 | astronut | nope |
| 00:04.20 | PerfDave | astronut: Fair enough, I was running it on a box behind NAT anyway |
| 00:04.31 | astronut | i'm running mine on the NAT box |
| 00:04.37 | optic_ | is there an indent command for vim? |
| 00:04.41 | olmo | anyone have a good site that will explain how to setup a dhcp/router on this debian? |
| 00:04.52 | ajavid | ro,auto,umask=0222 <- these are the options I use for my ntfs drives in the fstab. Nobody but root can access the ntfs drives, I tried umask=000 also with no luck. I read up on permissions and searched google a lot, readint differnt docs on how to mount ntfs drives under linux, well I still can't get it to work. any help would be greatly appreciated |
| 00:05.03 | astronut | so PerfDave, how do i set up ssh for it? |
| 00:05.05 | optic_ | olmo: setting it up is easy. see all the examples included in dhcpd.conf |
| 00:05.12 | olmo | thanks |
| 00:05.12 | PerfDave | astronut: You don't set up ssh for it. |
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| 00:05.18 | PerfDave | astronut: You run sshd on the same server |
| 00:05.23 | astronut | is that all i have to do? |
| 00:05.26 | astronut | i have sshd running |
| 00:05.31 | astronut | then the rest of the config is on the putty side? |
| 00:05.51 | optic_ | olmo: most important options are the subnet declaration, range, route, nameservers |
| 00:05.55 | mosty | olmo: google :) |
| 00:05.58 | optic_ | s/route/router |
| 00:06.03 | PerfDave | astronut: You ssh from your client, forward a port on your client to the tinyproxy port on your server, then tell your web browser to use that client port as a proxy. |
| 00:06.10 | olmo | that's what i meant |
| 00:06.15 | olmo | i'm not network savvy |
| 00:06.20 | olmo | rather have a working sample |
| 00:06.33 | astronut | the forwarding is done how? |
| 00:06.37 | mosty | olmo, this cool site called google has lots! |
| 00:06.42 | PerfDave | astronut: ssh -L |
| 00:06.48 | astronut | PerfDave: windows |
| 00:06.53 | olmo | ./ignore mosty |
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| 00:06.59 | astronut | PerfDave: putty |
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| 00:07.03 | ajavid | anyone? |
| 00:07.05 | PerfDave | astronut: Read the PuTTY documentation |
| 00:07.07 | astronut | k |
| 00:07.09 | astronut | will do |
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| 00:07.18 | astronut | ah, you were right |
| 00:07.21 | astronut | sort of |
| 00:07.23 | _morbid_ | Xfree86 isn't being able to access the mouse, it says that I am trying to access it directly |
| 00:07.34 | _morbid_ | people, any secret to run a serial mouse under 2.6.9 kernel? |
| 00:07.36 | astronut | limits it to 127.0.0.1 and 192.168.1.* through allow |
| 00:08.08 | optic_ | ssh -L <port>:target:<port> <user>@firewall |
| 00:08.19 | stew | _morbid_: modprobe mousedev ? |
| 00:08.28 | ajavid | PerfDave, do you know anything about mounting ntfs drives under linux. I use these options in my fstab - ro,auto,umask=222 - and have tried many differnt umasks. No one but root can access it. |
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| 00:08.59 | mosty | olmo, seriously why don't you just google debian dhcp.conf ? |
| 00:09.08 | PerfDave | ajavid: Not really, no. |
| 00:09.08 | thorie | can someone help me with my pf.conf file? |
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| 00:09.58 | optic_ | ajavid: man exports |
| 00:10.18 | ajavid | no manual entry |
| 00:10.32 | optic_ | ajavid: on the server |
| 00:10.35 | JoshH | optic_: ntfs, not nfs |
| 00:10.39 | PerfDave | optic_: man exports has to do with nfs, not ntfs |
| 00:10.44 | optic_ | ah,sorry |
| 00:11.00 | JoshH | ajavid: try adding "users" to the options |
| 00:11.03 | ajavid | i mean really, out of 750 folks, someone here has GOT to know |
| 00:11.14 | optic_ | ajavid: man mount which lists all the mount options |
| 00:11.17 | PerfDave | ajavid: I don't use NTFS :) |
| 00:11.37 | optic_ | using ntfs is bad news afaik |
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| 00:11.44 | ajavid | optic_, believe me when I say, I've been told that 1000 times, and I've read the man pages about 10,000 times |
| 00:11.45 | _morbid_ | stew I have CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y but CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y |
| 00:11.45 | rich_ | ajavid I heard ntfs was some kind of windows thing. |
| 00:11.49 | mosty | ajavid, try umask 000 |
| 00:11.58 | dmb062082 | how do i check my routers ip address |
| 00:12.00 | _morbid_ | stew how I tell that mousedev is SERIAL and not PS2? |
| 00:12.04 | stew | _morbid_: thats fine |
| 00:12.07 | sussudio | dmb062082: rtfm? |
| 00:12.18 | stew | _morbid_: you shouldn need to tell the kerel, just X |
| 00:12.29 | dmb062082 | uhhh well its a linux related question man, how would i do so in debian |
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| 00:12.33 | dmb062082 | is there a command? |
| 00:12.39 | JoshH | dmb062082: ifconfig |
| 00:12.40 | optic_ | ajavid: if its an access problem then you might need to specify an umask as a mount option and possibly a user/gid (don't know if ntfs supports those though) |
| 00:12.41 | rich_ | ajavid Sorry I should have mentiuoned that means you ussually click on it |
| 00:12.44 | dmb062082 | thanx |
| 00:12.53 | PerfDave | dmb062082: What is your router, how is your Debian system connected to it? |
| 00:13.01 | _morbid_ | stew and how to do it? In X, mouse is configured to use /dev/input/mice |
| 00:13.12 | sussudio | dmb062082: no, you should really rtfm for your router. it's not debian-related at all. |
| 00:13.13 | JoshH | ajavid: adding users to the options will let users mount it |
| 00:13.20 | ajavid | ok |
| 00:13.23 | ajavid | that makes sense |
| 00:13.25 | sussudio | manuals are handy for that. |
| 00:13.26 | ajavid | i'll try that |
| 00:13.26 | gdb | $ netstat -nr is more portable ;-) |
| 00:13.33 | ajavid | though I did have users in there to begin with |
| 00:13.39 | JoshH | ajavid: and then umask/permissions if you want them to write, etc |
| 00:13.41 | ajavid | just like the tutorial said |
| 00:13.44 | JoshH | which nobody should do, since its ntfs |
| 00:14.03 | sussudio | JoshH: if it's a router, ifconfig won't give him the IP for the router, will it. |
| 00:14.06 | optic_ | depends which router address |
| 00:14.19 | JoshH | sussudio: why not? |
| 00:14.22 | FieldySnuts | time for a larting. |
| 00:14.25 | FieldySnuts | JoshH: you need a clue |
| 00:14.26 | JoshH | assuming its a debian router |
| 00:14.29 | sussudio | JoshH: because it's a router. it routes things. |
| 00:14.38 | ajavid | sussudio, really? |
| 00:14.43 | sussudio | ... |
| 00:14.50 | ajavid | omg! I didn't know a router routed things |
| 00:15.04 | ajavid | lol |
| 00:15.04 | sussudio | ajavid: i see you're a fucktard. |
| 00:15.04 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: they're especially thick skulled today i see. sunday? |
| 00:15.05 | ajavid | im just beinga moron man |
| 00:15.14 | ajavid | don't get too worked up |
| 00:15.29 | sussudio | it's friday |
| 00:15.32 | ajavid | so? |
| 00:15.39 | ajavid | it gives you excuses to call people names? |
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| 00:15.49 | sussudio | why would i need an excuse for that? |
| 00:15.59 | ajavid | that is very rude of you then |
| 00:16.07 | sussudio | ajavid: bite my shiny metal ass |
| 00:16.13 | ajavid | thank you |
| 00:16.14 | ajavid | :) |
| 00:16.32 | rich_ | ajavid You dont need an excuse. But there is a line. I cant say what it ism but it exists |
| 00:16.39 | ShadowRage | http://data.4chan.org/b/src/1099612234941.jpg |
| 00:16.41 | astronut | PerfDave: what type of proxy is that? |
| 00:16.42 | astronut | http? |
| 00:16.51 | sussudio | a router that stopped routing at itself wouldn't be much use, would it. |
| 00:16.52 | PerfDave | astronut: tinyproxy? |
| 00:17.14 | PerfDave | astronut: http and https AFAIK |
| 00:17.28 | astronut | k |
| 00:17.29 | astronut | hmm |
| 00:17.33 | astronut | how do i know if it's working? |
| 00:17.38 | ajavid | rich_, morality IS a relative matter, but there are some universals that apply, some absolutes that are, well, just absolute, and one of them says being a dick isn't cool |
| 00:17.48 | PerfDave | astronut: Check its logfile? |
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| 00:17.52 | astronut | hmm |
| 00:18.03 | sussudio | ajavid: being a dick is cool in the US. they make you president. |
| 00:18.03 | astronut | unauthorized connection from [my public IP] |
| 00:18.11 | ajavid | good one |
| 00:18.12 | ajavid | I like that |
| 00:18.18 | ajavid | but still my point, lighten up bro |
| 00:18.19 | PerfDave | astronut: You're not tunneling over SSH then |
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| 00:18.55 | pv2b | ajavid, don't feed the bitter old farts then. |
| 00:19.04 | astronut | ah, got it |
| 00:19.11 | FieldySnuts | ajavid: this is #debian . it's rough. can't take it, go away. |
| 00:19.15 | ajavid | pv2b, I'm sorry, I didn't catch that |
| 00:19.19 | astronut | PerfDave: no...what i did was i had it forward to <my hostname>:proxy prot |
| 00:19.25 | astronut | i changed the forward to localhost, and it worked |
| 00:19.26 | sussudio | run away! run away! |
| 00:19.33 | PerfDave | astronut: Exactly :) |
| 00:19.44 | simonrvn | all done |
| 00:19.49 | SammyTheSnake | is anyone else here using mozilla-firefox from testing? (version 0.9.3) |
| 00:19.52 | ajavid | FieldySnuts, that is besides the point, just because this is #debian, does not mean you can go around calling people names |
| 00:19.55 | ajavid | ok? |
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| 00:19.56 | sussudio | !anyone use |
| 00:19.56 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 00:19.59 | astronut | SammyTheSnake: my server does |
| 00:20.05 | astronut | why? |
| 00:20.06 | FieldySnuts | ajavid: we will call you whatever we want. fuck off. |
| 00:20.23 | SammyTheSnake | I've got an odd (javascript related?) problem |
| 00:20.23 | ajavid | ok |
| 00:20.24 | ajavid | go ahead |
| 00:20.29 | astronut | SammyTheSnake: ::shrug:: |
| 00:20.30 | ajavid | :) |
| 00:20.32 | astronut | i'm not the one to ask |
| 00:20.42 | ajavid | while you are at it, try getting a life |
| 00:21.05 | FieldySnuts | right. i just got back from work and have a hunk of a bf. no life there. try some real insults, child |
| 00:21.09 | FieldySnuts | brb work |
| 00:21.13 | SammyTheSnake | I use an rss agregator webshite, www.bloglines.com, which has a list of feeds in one frame and ought to display the entries for the feed I select in the other frame |
| 00:21.16 | astronut | FieldySnuts: girl? using debian? IMPOSTER!! |
| 00:21.19 | rich_ | "in the name of gwar, in the name of love, in the name of the blood dripping out of the sun, I call out your God, 'till before me he stands, but dont send me Jesus, He's only a man" -- gwar, meat sandwich |
| 00:21.21 | SammyTheSnake | it works fine in mozilla, but not firefox :( |
| 00:21.44 | astronut | SammyTheSnake: /j #mozilla-firefox/#firefox/irc.mozilla.org #firefox |
| 00:21.45 | astronut | sorry |
| 00:21.46 | ajavid | FieldySnuts, thats why you are telling me, defending your 'life' |
| 00:21.46 | astronut | i dunno |
| 00:21.46 | ajavid | lol |
| 00:21.49 | ajavid | whatever man |
| 00:22.16 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: i don't want to sound like an idjit, but are you really a woman, or just pulling our leg? |
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| 00:22.29 | sussudio | Phated: kill astronut |
| 00:22.37 | novice | how can i remove the 'bip' sound from my X? |
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| 00:22.45 | astronut | sussudio: for? |
| 00:22.45 | simonrvn | novice: turn the sound off |
| 00:22.56 | pv2b | novice, i think you can adjust that using "xset". |
| 00:23.00 | SammyTheSnake | astronut: I figured it might be a debian specific thing. I'll try it on my windows machine at work tomorrow. In the meantime, I guess I'll try those other channels, thanks. |
| 00:23.00 | citral | novice: what makes sound? terminal? |
| 00:23.05 | ajavid | FieldySnuts, I don't care, i don't think sussudio cares either, go suck a nut |
| 00:23.06 | simonrvn | also using xset works |
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| 00:23.09 | WcktKlwn | is there a way to tell it where the default hard drive is? I remove hda and my hdb is now the main drive, and grub is still installing the root drive as hdb |
| 00:23.12 | pv2b | novice, failing that you can always take a pair of wire cutters to your speakers. |
| 00:23.36 | Ronin | wow it a full moon or something? the day started off with stupid people and seems to be ending that way too |
| 00:23.41 | Rick-- | hi.. i have installed kernel 2.4.27 via source but, i am unable to bring up my net card |
| 00:23.51 | citral | set bell-style visible or none in .bashrc is fine |
| 00:23.55 | Rick-- | it is 3c59x |
| 00:24.12 | Guerin | !friday |
| 00:24.13 | dpkg | well, friday is Tardsday Eve Eve |
| 00:24.19 | ajavid | Ronin, I know |
| 00:24.19 | sussudio | Rick--: weren't you in here yesterday with the same crap? |
| 00:24.30 | pv2b | Rick--, you either haven't compiled in the proper network driver -- or you haven't loaded the proper module. |
| 00:24.30 | Rick-- | yes.. |
| 00:24.32 | simonrvn | Rick--: so modprobe 3c59x, set up the interface bring it up, and you're done |
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| 00:24.56 | pv2b | Rick--, you said you built the kernel yourself, did you build the right driver into it? |
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| 00:25.15 | Rick-- | simonrvn: well.. dont |
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| 00:25.15 | shekhar | hi all, does anyone know a good laptop/energy battery optimizer? I tried to find something through apt-cache but most of the listed tools dont work.. |
| 00:25.17 | Guerin | as I recall, Rick--, your kernel was built wrong. Did you check it against a known-working config yet? |
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| 00:25.18 | Rick-- | done |
| 00:25.33 | simonrvn | @tell Rick-- about man interfaces |
| 00:25.36 | simonrvn | @tell Rick-- about interfaces |
| 00:25.38 | Guerin | shekhar: acpi |
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| 00:25.45 | Rick-- | but... i done a modprobe.. it give like the whole list of options |
| 00:25.46 | simonrvn | follow that and you should be ok |
| 00:25.52 | Rick-- | interfaces set right |
| 00:25.54 | ajavid | sussudio, that was actually just a joke, about the router being able to route things, I see now how I couldve come across as sarcastic on that one, I didnt think about it, Im just stoned and being stupid, sorry |
| 00:25.54 | relex | hello... does anyone know how to get the /dev location of a scsi device listed by cdrecord? |
| 00:25.56 | relex | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.59 | relex | like that. |
| 00:26.02 | Guerin | shekhar: there's a package called acpi, but that's just a client program to the acpi kernel subsystem |
| 00:26.09 | Rick-- | i can obtain network when i boot rescue mode off the cd |
| 00:26.16 | pv2b | Rick--, did you build the module then? |
| 00:26.24 | pv2b | Rick--, take a look in /lib/modules and see if you can find it. |
| 00:26.27 | Guerin | Rick--: which means your KERNEL IS FUCKED. Go and fix it. |
| 00:26.27 | simonrvn | relex: looks like sda, but not sure if you gave enough info |
| 00:26.29 | shekhar | I thought acpi just displays the bat status |
| 00:26.33 | SammyTheSnake | Rick: did you try it with no options? just modprobe [module name] ? |
| 00:26.34 | mosty | relax: is it a real scsi drive? |
| 00:26.35 | citral | Rick--: modprobe 3c59x, not modprobe alone |
| 00:26.40 | shekhar | I ve installed it |
| 00:26.43 | docgnome | I'm having some problems with my videocard... It works well enough, but I think I need a better driver, I have an ati radeon 9600se and i'm using the ati driver... Components tend to paint realy slowly though. |
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| 00:26.51 | SammyTheSnake | I have a card of that ilk and that's what I did :) |
| 00:27.00 | ajavid | anyway, users,ro,auto,umask=000 are the options I am using now, and still non-root isn't able to access the mount |
| 00:27.01 | Guerin | shekhar: no, acpi stands for advanced configurable power interface or somesuch |
| 00:27.02 | citral | Rick--| but... i done a modprobe.. it give like the whole list of options |
| 00:27.03 | Rick-- | citral: yes.. modprobe 3c59x |
| 00:27.25 | shekhar | ok, then how do I configure acpi? |
| 00:27.26 | citral | and what does it say? |
| 00:27.37 | pv2b | Rick--, that means that either modprobe is broken -- or you haven't compiled 3c59x as a module. |
| 00:27.40 | novice | citral: yes....the xterm for instance. i don't wanna it makes the bip sound when i strike tab. |
| 00:27.43 | Guerin | !tell shekhar about acpi |
| 00:27.46 | docgnome | and It's very irritating, trying to develop java apps when my driver causes things to paint slower than they would normaly. Java is slow enough as it is at painting with out help from a driver thats not up to snuff. |
| 00:27.47 | ajavid | !ntfs |
| 00:27.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/ has patches against 2.4.20 of the backport of the 2.5.X ntfs [ntfs-tng] allowing overwrite without changing filesize. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to acces the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/ntfs |
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| 00:27.56 | Rick-- | pv2b: i have compiles it into kernel |
| 00:27.59 | shekhar | k thanks |
| 00:28.02 | ajavid | ahh |
| 00:28.04 | ajavid | no fucking shit |
| 00:28.10 | citral | novice: put set bell-style visible in your .bashrc, logout, login finished. |
| 00:28.13 | pv2b | Rick--, probably not. |
| 00:28.26 | pv2b | Rick--, if you had compiled it in, it would work. |
| 00:28.29 | rich_ | Seems to me theres a thing called ifs thats the closest thing ms has to a unix filesystem. |
| 00:28.38 | rich_ | A lot closer than ntfs |
| 00:28.46 | Rick-- | pv2b: i know |
| 00:28.48 | citral | Rick--: lsmod | grep 3c |
| 00:29.01 | pv2b | Rick--, do you mind if we take this over /msg? i think that'd be less confusing for the both of us. |
| 00:29.04 | novice | citral: set bell-style? |
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| 00:29.18 | citral | novice: "set bell-style visible" |
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| 00:29.31 | ajavid | what is being troll mean |
| 00:29.33 | Guerin | Rick--: the kernel module is not the issue. You have the right kernel module. there's some other networking thing you've left out that you obviously need. Figure it out and rebuild your kernel with it. |
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| 00:29.43 | ajavid | isn't troll a fantasy creature like an elf or something |
| 00:29.44 | citral | !advocay troll |
| 00:29.49 | simonrvn | !troll |
| 00:29.49 | dpkg | rumour has it, troll is a race on some muds;a guy under a bridge: an annoying robot; a port scanner, or somebody faking being clueless to be shown the One Linux Way so he can argue against it for his psychology thesis on linux advocates, or an employee of trolltech, or at http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/27/51233/2979 or http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/troll.html |
| 00:29.50 | citral | !advocacy troll |
| 00:29.50 | dpkg | well, advocacy troll is a term that greycat made up to describe a troll who demands action (typically unreasonable or unachievable) "for the good of Debian". Example: "Debian needs to have a graphical installer to make it easier for end users to increase its market share!" Example: "The BTS should have a web interface for submitting bugs so we can have vague, misspelled, irreproducible PEBKAC errors and no way to contact the submitter!" |
| 00:29.56 | Lin | Hi all!! |
| 00:30.17 | Ronin | more polite then i was typing but an excellent answer :) |
| 00:30.22 | Rick-- | Guerin: i have tried... |
| 00:30.25 | Rick-- | but.. no clue |
| 00:30.28 | ajavid | so... in laymans terms, a troll is.... |
| 00:30.56 | asuffield | a troll is the kind of critter that works in the accounts payable department |
| 00:31.04 | asuffield | their job is to eat invoices |
| 00:31.05 | citral | someone who is here just to flame, irritate, get reactions etc. |
| 00:31.08 | Guerin | ajavid: you've been given the layman's terms. If you were even up to the standard of your average layman, you'd have understood them. |
| 00:31.10 | ajavid | ahh |
| 00:31.15 | Lin | I having problems with deb mirror here.. the command line is: debmirror -e http -h sft.if.usp.br --nosource -p -v --root=debian -dist=sarge /stor/disc1/debian |
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| 00:31.17 | ajavid | i see |
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| 00:31.48 | ajavid | Guerin, I am not your average person, I am much much stupider |
| 00:31.57 | Guerin | ajavid: that much is clear. |
| 00:31.59 | ajavid | any other attacks on my esteem? |
| 00:32.12 | ajavid | any other uncalled for comments? |
| 00:32.15 | rich_ | a troll is a nasty creature who lives under a bridge (like the bridge between whatever else and linux) They say things they dont believe, ussually to get a reaction from others and they demand a fee, a concession that they are right, before it allows people to cross that bridge, whatever it is. They have also been known to eat billy goats |
| 00:32.16 | ajavid | hmm? |
| 00:32.27 | Guerin | ajavid: you haven't merited any yet, but I'm sure if you continue, I'll find a reason. |
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| 00:33.15 | NuBus | they'll eat bill gates? yay \o/ |
| 00:33.20 | rich_ | :) |
| 00:33.21 | Lin | The error is: Won't mirror without dists/sarge/non-US/main/debian-installer/binary-i386/Packages.gz signature in Release at /usr/bin/debmirror line 1094. |
| 00:33.22 | Guerin | heh |
| 00:33.30 | Guerin | accounts payable, not account payee |
| 00:33.33 | ajavid | I mean I understand you guys volunteer, and having to put up with all sorts of people you are trying to help is frustrating, still, I don't think its good to act like a dick |
| 00:33.39 | bob2 | Lin: email the debmirror author |
| 00:33.44 | Lin | I lied, this is the command line: debmirror -e http -h sft.if.usp.br --nosource -p -v --root=debian-non-US -dist=sarge/non-US /stor/disc1/debian/debian-non-US |
| 00:33.49 | Guerin | ajavid: just don't bother. |
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| 00:33.55 | Lin | bob2: this is a bug? |
| 00:33.55 | rich_ | ajavid Not everyone is capable of acting differently |
| 00:34.00 | ajavid | and so far man, thanks for all your help |
| 00:34.01 | Ronin | ajavid: try efnet and #debian or #slackware these folks here are perfect gentlemen |
| 00:34.02 | pv2b | ajavid, look. some people are here just so they can act like a dick to affirm their own superiority over others. |
| 00:34.08 | bob2 | Lin: no, but I doubt anyoone here has ever used that program |
| 00:34.08 | pv2b | ajavid, i'd just ignore them. |
| 00:34.11 | ajavid | i wouln't know linux worth shit if it wern't fo ryou people |
| 00:34.15 | rich_ | Not everyone even wants to be an actor |
| 00:34.21 | ajavid | but some of you are really assholes u know that |
| 00:34.25 | ajavid | and im not pinting any fingers |
| 00:34.28 | ajavid | lets just leave it at that |
| 00:34.30 | NuBus | people in #debian generally have very very long fuses. |
| 00:34.30 | NuBus | they just happen to keep getting lit, constantly, day after day. |
| 00:34.31 | ajavid | whatever |
| 00:34.33 | swatikiss | my new kernel keeps hanging on boot |
| 00:34.33 | Lin | bob2: hey.. we're in debian channel.. there is a lot of people here !! :-) |
| 00:35.29 | Guerin | ajavid: we don't care what you think. |
| 00:35.29 | WiFiTux | ajavid, cut it |
| 00:35.29 | rich_ | ajavid would you prefer that they hide it? |
| 00:35.29 | Guerin | hah |
| 00:35.29 | ajavid | its time to stop talking about it |
| 00:35.29 | ajavid | :) |
| 00:35.30 | Rick-- | hi.. is there a 2.4.27 kernel for debian woody |
| 00:35.30 | Guerin | swatikiss: what did you do to it? |
| 00:35.30 | Guerin | Rick--: no. |
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| 00:35.53 | swatikiss | Guerin, i went installed the 2.4.27 (no luck) then i installed the 2.4.26 image |
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| 00:36.05 | Guerin | swatikiss: luck has nothing to do with it. |
| 00:36.15 | olmo | how come my ifconfig doesn't work? |
| 00:36.31 | marmot | are you root? |
| 00:36.33 | olmo | ye |
| 00:36.42 | marmot | define doesn't work |
| 00:37.14 | swatikiss | Guerin, i kept getting an error: NO IRQ known for interrupt pin A of devices 00:13.0 please try using pci=biosirq |
| 00:37.19 | ajavid | im not talking about people being frustrated or angry, thats understandable anyone could get like that, its human nature, shit hjappens life sucks, im only talking about the peple who delieberately try to be assholes cuZ they havn't anything better to do online. it was just a comment in general, don't know why everybody got so excited anyway, im gone, gotta go feed the birds |
| 00:37.29 | citral | swatikiss: then try it |
| 00:37.31 | Guerin | swatikiss: did you try that kernel parameter? |
| 00:37.41 | swatikiss | Guerin, i tried that in lilo |
| 00:37.50 | Guerin | swatikiss: try a 2.6 kernel? |
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| 00:38.06 | swatikiss | Guerin, my system went crazy with 2.6 |
| 00:38.14 | Guerin | ... |
| 00:38.15 | citral | or fix the bios maybe |
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| 00:38.34 | swatikiss | so i thought i would try the 2.4 images |
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| 00:38.45 | WiFiTux | !works on 2.4 |
| 00:38.45 | dpkg | Every time you say "___ doesn't work in 2.6, but it worked in 2.4", a 25 cent (USD) surcharge must be paid to greycat. |
| 00:38.46 | Guerin | yeah, you might have PROPRIETARY IRQ HANDLING STUPIDNESS = YES in bios someplace |
| 00:38.52 | bob2 | Lin: has anyone answered? |
| 00:39.01 | bob2 | Lin: I bet you a case of beer no one knows |
| 00:39.04 | swatikiss | im jut not able to get my sound working yet in 2.4 (worked fine in 2.6) |
| 00:39.12 | citral | swatikiss: look like something is bad plugged in your hardware |
| 00:39.14 | swatikiss | zang |
| 00:39.21 | Guerin | swatikiss: what do you mean by crazy? |
| 00:39.22 | citral | *screwdriver* |
| 00:39.22 | WiFiTux | swatikiss, keep 2.6 then |
| 00:39.26 | pv2b | if it aint broke. |
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| 00:39.44 | Guerin | pv2b: but in this case, it IS broke. |
| 00:39.45 | swatikiss | Guerin, i got a bunch of errors...( i can post in flood if youd like |
| 00:39.54 | Klipper | how do i search for a file anywhere in /usr/* ? |
| 00:40.00 | jharrison | pv2b: :-O |
| 00:40.06 | jharrison | pv2b: what you gonna do now hhmm? |
| 00:40.11 | bob2 | Klipper: contents or name? |
| 00:40.13 | citral | Klipper: find /usr/ -name '*foo*' |
| 00:40.15 | Klipper | name |
| 00:40.24 | Guerin | swatikiss: errors, or warnings? Switching kernel series often produces a lot of warnings about missing modules, etc, which can typically be ignored. |
| 00:40.36 | Klipper | whats up with the whole foo bar thing? |
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| 00:40.48 | Guerin | !tell klipper about foo |
| 00:40.50 | Guerin | !tell klipper about bar |
| 00:40.50 | jharrison | Klipper: do you know foo bar? |
| 00:40.57 | pv2b | jharrison, then my advice doesn't apply. |
| 00:41.23 | jharrison | time to install 2.6.9 |
| 00:41.27 | Klipper | i have heard of foobar |
| 00:41.34 | Piru | klipper, http://www.tf.hut.fi/cgi-bin/jargon?search=foobar or so |
| 00:41.37 | Guerin | Klipper: read the link I sent you. |
| 00:41.45 | WiFiTux | !listkeys foo |
| 00:41.46 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'foo' by key (15 shown; 60 total): fooz-- ;; barfoo ;; whereis foobar ;; be fooz barbie ;; foolish bot ;; foobaz ;; foodlube ;; foo fighters ;; foo bar ;; kung foo ;; foon ;; knew: foo123 ;; foomatic ;; you fool ;; fooquux. |
| 00:41.48 | Guerin | ffs |
| 00:41.59 | WiFiTux | !you fool |
| 00:41.59 | dpkg | aah, who's the fool now wifitux |
| 00:42.07 | citral | WiFiTux: do that in private with dpkg |
| 00:42.08 | Guerin | it's in the factoid named "foo", for god's sakes |
| 00:42.18 | WiFiTux | citral, yes grumpy |
| 00:42.18 | swatikiss | Guerin, yes but my NIC wouldnt come up at all |
| 00:42.19 | Klipper | guerin: cool |
| 00:42.20 | swatikiss | and my mouse went nuts |
| 00:42.22 | swatikiss | Guerin, just posted in flood the errors |
| 00:42.24 | swatikiss | bbl |
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| 00:42.26 | Piru | heh, foo has very lenghty explanation :-) |
| 00:42.37 | jharrison | WiFiTux: heh |
| 00:42.37 | Guerin | swatikiss: I'm not in #flood |
| 00:42.42 | ajavid | im back |
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| 00:42.49 | WiFiTux | jharrison, ? :) |
| 00:42.53 | Guerin | swatikiss: what nic? the module may have been renamed. |
| 00:43.10 | swatikiss | Guerin, it is a linksys pcmcia100v2 nic |
| 00:43.13 | ajavid | i tried users as well as umask 222 with gid 1000 in the fstab, but still only root can access the partition |
| 00:43.15 | WiFiTux | jharrison, had a laugh there? :) |
| 00:43.28 | ajavid | I've tried numerous things and have read the man page for mount more times than I can remember |
| 00:43.29 | jharrison | WiFiTux: yes at your "yes grumpy" comment |
| 00:43.31 | Usuario | I'm on Debian Sarge, and I need help configuring my sound card to play sound. I'm on a 2.4.x kernel. |
| 00:43.35 | jharrison | WiFiTux: that made me chuckle |
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| 00:43.59 | jharrison | the moment of truth |
| 00:44.02 | WiFiTux | jharrison, haha, me too. If we don't laugh, we die... |
| 00:44.03 | jharrison | will it boot |
| 00:44.05 | jharrison | or will it not |
| 00:44.20 | WiFiTux | jharrison, reboot --dry-run :/ |
| 00:44.42 | jharrison | WiFiTux: well I dont really see why you would have to enter a private session with the bot and I was thinking of something smartass to say but you beat me to it |
| 00:44.51 | zbowling | I'mmmm... back! |
| 00:44.53 | ajavid | bob2, you seem to know a lot, maybe you can help, gid=1000,users,ro,auto,umask=022 are the options I'm using in the fstab for the ntfs disk, only root can read it, how do I make it user mountable/useable |
| 00:44.57 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: btw, it's ok f you don't reply. i was just curious |
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| 00:45.04 | green_earz | Usuario, here a link that should help http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/hardware.html |
| 00:45.05 | docgnome | How do I figure out exactly which kernel I'm running? |
| 00:45.06 | jharrison | 2.6.9 here I come |
| 00:45.14 | Guerin | docgnome: uname -a |
| 00:45.15 | jharrison | or rather here my rooter comes |
| 00:45.23 | grendal_prime | ok bonehead question how do i reconfigure eth0 for dhcp...quick way? |
| 00:45.26 | docgnome | Guerin: Thanks. My brain is totaly... Off or something |
| 00:45.26 | Guerin | heh, rooter |
| 00:45.29 | Rick-- | hi.. is there a 2.4.27 kernel for sid |
| 00:45.37 | Guerin | Rick--: naturally. |
| 00:45.47 | Guerin | !tell Rick-- about search |
| 00:45.50 | Rick-- | ok.. i think i might as well use sid .. |
| 00:45.50 | bob2 | ajavid: you're asking two different things there |
| 00:45.51 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: it's not that just working |
| 00:45.53 | Alleria | I've an odd question. I'm running testing, and have the appropriate lines in my sources.list. |
| 00:45.54 | ajavid | I am |
| 00:45.55 | FieldySnuts | more work :( brb |
| 00:45.56 | xio04 | i'm trying to obtain my mac address, i think ifconfig wlan0 should return HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00, which is it. but it says 0's. somthen wrong about that? |
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| 00:46.01 | Rick-- | instead of the hassle .. |
| 00:46.02 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: ok. np |
| 00:46.02 | ajavid | ok I see |
| 00:46.06 | Guerin | !tell grendal_prime about man interfaces |
| 00:46.09 | bob2 | ajavid: if you want everyone to be able to read it, just use "users,ro,auto,umask=002" |
| 00:46.16 | Alleria | A dpkg -l for an uninstalled package (e.g. bittorrent) yields nothing, but an apt-get -s install bittorrent is successful. |
| 00:46.18 | Alleria | what gives? |
| 00:46.18 | WiFiTux | jharrison, some people are too Globalized and just try to isolate even more everyday... how would I have known there is a !listkeys if I never saw it in the chan? :) |
| 00:46.28 | ajavid | 002? |
| 00:46.33 | ajavid | !ntfs |
| 00:46.33 | dpkg | i heard ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/ has patches against 2.4.20 of the backport of the 2.5.X ntfs [ntfs-tng] allowing overwrite without changing filesize. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to acces the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/ntfs |
| 00:46.38 | ajavid | that says 022 |
| 00:46.41 | bob2 | Alleria: dpkg only knows about installed packages |
| 00:46.41 | simonrvn | ajavid: yes, 777 - 002 |
| 00:47.01 | ajavid | and lots of other websites also say 022 not 002 are you sure its 002 |
| 00:47.03 | bob2 | ajavid: the bot contains lots of useless information |
| 00:47.04 | WiFiTux | ajavid, do that in a msg to dpkg ! |
| 00:47.12 | grendal_prime | Guerin, ya i read that..thing is...i was hoping for something that would put me into that setup like dpkg reconfigure network |
| 00:47.15 | bob2 | ajavid: try it. |
| 00:47.18 | ajavid | ok |
| 00:47.20 | ajavid | brb |
| 00:47.29 | Alleria | bob2: dpkg shows me a lot of packages with "un" status as well as those with "rc" status. |
| 00:47.30 | Guerin | ajavid: fuck's sake, go and read man mount, the section on umask |
| 00:47.31 | bob2 | Alleria: well, not true, but it's knowledge of uninstalled pacages is useless |
| 00:47.35 | simonrvn | ajavid: 002 simply means that group write is allowed |
| 00:47.41 | bob2 | Alleria: yeah, it's pointless tho |
| 00:47.45 | Alleria | bob2: how do I know what uninstalled packages are available? |
| 00:47.49 | bob2 | Alleria: if you really really care, "dselect update" |
| 00:47.53 | bob2 | Alleria: use apt |
| 00:47.59 | Alleria | bob2: ooh, good point. Thaks. |
| 00:48.03 | Ronin | Alleria: or apt-cache search |
| 00:48.10 | bob2 | Alleria: and you really don't want a list of packages that aren't installed, it'll be 10 000 items long ;) |
| 00:48.18 | Alleria | Ronin: oh ya. |
| 00:48.22 | WiFiTux | Alleria, apt-cache search and google are your friends... |
| 00:48.26 | novice | citral: i edited my .bashrc adding the line u wrote but i still have bips. :( |
| 00:48.26 | ajavid | Guerin, once again, have read it many times, but honestly, stop being an ass, for 'fucks sake' |
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| 00:48.42 | Alleria | bob2: well, I need to know that say, my woody system doesn't have a package called "bittorrent" available, but that my sarge system does have such a package. |
| 00:48.43 | Alleria | that's all. |
| 00:48.43 | citral | novice: I told you to log out and log in |
| 00:48.44 | Guerin | ajavid: how many times can you read it and not understand it? |
| 00:48.49 | Ronin | it wont give you a list of all avalible but liek bob2 said thats a nasty list anyhow |
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| 00:48.52 | Adelineee | http://www.orihane.no-ip.org |
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| 00:49.06 | WiFiTux | ajavid, easy boy, he is that way bu nature... :) |
| 00:49.07 | *** mode/#debian [-o bob2] by bob2 |
| 00:49.12 | bob2 | LoRez: you're my hero |
| 00:49.17 | alindeman | *cough* Was me ;P |
| 00:49.21 | WiFiTux | haha |
| 00:49.22 | Guerin | WiFiTux: are you still ignoring me? |
| 00:49.22 | nvz | heh |
| 00:49.23 | rich_ | debian sarge plus marillat is almost 15 thousand packages. So when someone comes in asking for some wierd program you never heard of, it probably exists, theres just no one who can remember 15 thousand packages |
| 00:49.26 | bob2 | alindeman: oh, you too then :) |
| 00:49.30 | alindeman | bob2: :-) |
| 00:49.30 | Rez | bob2: wasn't me :) |
| 00:49.45 | zu22 | what is marillat? |
| 00:49.49 | bob2 | alindeman: quinn-diff sort of does that... |
| 00:49.50 | ajavid | no really, differnt documents on ntfs on linux say different tings, bob2 says differntly, *his method ii |
| 00:49.52 | ajavid | i'll try |
| 00:50.01 | WiFiTux | Guerin, no, but tell me if I should, I remove my list daylee, until people have their period over the 8 day... |
| 00:50.02 | ajavid | bot says diff too |
| 00:50.16 | Guerin | christian marillat is the patron saint of video playback in debian |
| 00:50.17 | bob2 | ajavid: you could have tried it, broken it and given up by now |
| 00:50.19 | bob2 | </futurama> |
| 00:50.21 | rich_ | zu22 Third party debian archive including mplayer and other sound and video processing software thats not included in debian |
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| 00:50.33 | bob2 | Alleria: quinn-diff does something like that |
| 00:50.38 | zu22 | rich_: ah |
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| 00:51.09 | Alleria | bob2, ronin: thanks for the suggestions. I guess I'll try using apt-cache and those bits. :-) |
| 00:51.31 | ajavid | bob2, gid=1000,users,ro,auto,umask=002 - and I still can't get it to work |
| 00:51.44 | Ronin | Alleria: theres also packages.debian.org |
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| 00:52.15 | ajavid | i've tried all sorts of differnt umask settings |
| 00:52.34 | green_earz | Alleria, and to veiw the package system check out aptitude |
| 00:52.58 | citral | guess WiFiTux comes back in 3 minutes |
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| 00:53.22 | zu22 | citral: WiFiTux? |
| 00:53.26 | simonrvn | alindeman: w00t |
| 00:53.37 | simonrvn | LoRez: you too, w00t |
| 00:53.49 | Alleria | thanks all. dselect-update solved the issue in the end. :-) |
| 00:53.49 | citral | he's going away and back every half hour today |
| 00:53.53 | jcurry | Will eclipse 3.x make it to debian? |
| 00:53.55 | ajavid | users,ro,auto,umask=002 that doesn't work either |
| 00:54.00 | citral | at least 20 times |
| 00:54.18 | Guerin | !info eeclipse ssid |
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| 00:54.22 | Guerin | !info eclipse sid |
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| 00:54.31 | simonrvn | Guerin: fucked up kbd? |
| 00:54.37 | Guerin | yeah |
| 00:54.41 | simonrvn | :| |
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| 00:54.45 | Guerin | it repeats some keystrokes |
| 00:54.47 | asg | jcurry: just download it, stuff it in /usr/local with the jvm from sun and have at it |
| 00:54.56 | bob2 | ajavid: can you be more vague? |
| 00:55.00 | Guerin | and it's not a kbdrate setting issue, before you lecture me :) |
| 00:55.02 | bob2 | ajavid: paste the output of "mount" to #flood |
| 00:55.10 | simonrvn | Guerin: wasn't going to ;) |
| 00:55.16 | bob2 | ajavid: and can root access it? what does ls -ld /mountpoint print out? |
| 00:55.24 | citral | Guerin: that happens when one puts beer between the keys XD |
| 00:55.38 | novice | citral: i logged out and logged in |
| 00:55.40 | simonrvn | citral: heh |
| 00:55.42 | Usuario | I'm trying to get sound out of my onboard sound card by following: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/hardware.html; but I do not have a modconf command. Can I apt-get it? |
| 00:55.50 | ajavid | root CAN access it, I think i've said that about 1000 times, just not users |
| 00:55.57 | asg | Usuario: do it as root |
| 00:55.59 | Guerin | citral: heh, i recently cleaned all the gunk and dust and shit out of it |
| 00:56.08 | citral | novice: so, no more evil beeps? |
| 00:56.10 | Usuario | asg: yes, it's as rot |
| 00:56.14 | jcurry | Asg: but no debian package? |
| 00:56.17 | green_earz | Alleria, have you check out sarge net installer yet ? if not its well worth a boot |
| 00:56.17 | jcurry | A shame. |
| 00:56.38 | Usuario | # modconf |
| 00:56.38 | Usuario | bash: modconf: command not found |
| 00:56.39 | Guerin | jcurry: is it free software? i don't see a current version in debian, even in contrib or non-free... |
| 00:56.42 | Alleria | green_earz: I've multiple woody systems, and one that I apt-get upgraded to sarge. |
| 00:56.43 | asg | Usuario: then apt-get install modconf |
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| 00:56.51 | Usuario | asg: thank you |
| 00:56.57 | citral | jcurry: the shame is that you don't use your tabulation key |
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| 00:57.01 | novice | citral: evil beeps,hehe...well, i had logged out and logged in when i've written the first time that it hasn't worked |
| 00:57.04 | MobyTurbo | sarge net installer needs ppp support. Even though I don't usually run a woody system I have to use a woody disk and dist-upgrade. |
| 00:57.05 | asg | jcurry: debian prides itself on being free. java is non-free. |
| 00:57.07 | Alleria | green_earz: the seamless upgrades of Debian without reinstalls are greatly underappreciated by users of other distros. :) |
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| 00:57.16 | Guerin | I mean, I know javaware, but SOME javaware makes it into contrib... |
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| 00:57.20 | citral | novice: impossible |
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| 00:57.27 | MobyTurbo | Alleria: yep. :-) |
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| 00:57.39 | mammoth | hi |
| 00:57.48 | rich_ | MobyTurbo really? The new sarge installer doesnt find cable modems? |
| 00:57.51 | mammoth | anyone use mammoth? |
| 00:57.54 | novice | citral: is there any specific line into .bashrc for the command be inserted? |
| 00:57.56 | jcurry | Guerin: i'm pretty sure it is free...i must have gotten it from another repo...sorry to bother then. |
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| 00:58.16 | citral | novice: you have been putting "set-bell style visible" at the end but BEFORE the "fi" right? |
| 00:58.21 | green_earz | Alleria, if you do a new install of debian on another box check out > net installer >http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/ |
| 00:58.22 | MobyTurbo | rich_: I'm using a dial-up modem, but if I was using pppoe I'd have the same problem. The lack of ppp support is documented. |
| 00:58.55 | Alleria | green_earz: will do, thanks. :-) Maybe time to make a VMWare session. |
| 00:59.04 | novice | citral: let me see...it was before the if even... |
| 00:59.12 | rich_ | MobyTurbo I dont think everyone needs ppp. As far as I know, its just for dial ups and adsl |
| 00:59.14 | citral | novice: and did you uncomment .bash_profile that it includes .bashrc ? |
| 00:59.36 | rich_ | or other dsl |
| 00:59.44 | MobyTurbo | rich_: maybe you don't need it but I need it. :-) |
| 00:59.47 | novice | citral: no, it was inside the if-fi |
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| 01:00.07 | citral | novice: make sure .bash_profile includes .bashrc |
| 01:00.16 | citral | just uncomment |
| 01:00.26 | Usuario | it seems that modconf does not currently have a module that I need for my soundcard to work. How can I install a module for my Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA AC'97 Audio (rev 0 2)? |
| 01:00.50 | Guerin | !tell Usuario about ac97 |
| 01:00.51 | asg | !ac97 |
| 01:00.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ac97 is there's no universal driver for every single motherboard that uses ac97 audio. ac97 is just the codec, you need a driver for your audio chip. Usually (for OSS, not ALSA) this means either i810_audio or via82cxxx_audio. Use "lspci" to see whether you have an Intel-VIA-based chipset. |
| 01:01.02 | Usuario | Guerin: thanks you |
| 01:01.21 | simonrvn | might* |
| 01:01.22 | MobyTurbo | Usuario: I have an intel sound chip, I use i810_audio |
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| 01:01.40 | zu22 | simonrvn: woo |
| 01:01.43 | Guerin | simonrvn: omfg really? Then you'll be able to make backups! |
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| 01:01.47 | jsoft | Anyone ever used OSSIM ? |
| 01:01.53 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 01:01.53 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 01:01.55 | herbi | ah crap i just did a dist-upgrade in unstable...will my sound stop working if i reboot? i didnt realise alsa-base was borked. |
| 01:01.57 | asg | Guerin: nah, he can finally fool around with knoppix ;) |
| 01:01.59 | simonrvn | Guerin: i already can, but to HDD. |
| 01:02.04 | Guerin | simonrvn: :P |
| 01:02.16 | jsoft | Guerin: eh? |
| 01:02.27 | grendal_prime | i did it by hand |
| 01:02.28 | Usuario | MobyTurbo: how can I try to install i810_audio? I'm on a Dell Optiplex GX 200, btw. |
| 01:02.31 | asg | herbi: you can downgrade to the previous non-borked version by downloading the deb from snapshot.debian.net and doing 'dpkg -i <pkg>' |
| 01:02.31 | simonrvn | asg: meh. oldworld ppc doesn't boot from cd to linux, only mock os :| |
| 01:02.32 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrrrr |
| 01:02.33 | Guerin | herbi: my crystal ball is on the blink, sorry. |
| 01:02.37 | jsoft | dpkg: what? |
| 01:02.37 | dpkg | This! |
| 01:02.40 | asg | simonrvn: :) |
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| 01:02.53 | MobyTurbo | Usuario: modconf or modprobe |
| 01:02.56 | jsoft | cocks. |
| 01:03.13 | j4cbo | dhcpd says "socket: Protocol not available" and to check for CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER |
| 01:03.14 | asg | jsoft: are tasty with a little lemon butter yes. |
| 01:03.14 | simonrvn | jsoft: dufus |
| 01:03.16 | Guerin | !tell jsoft about bad polls |
| 01:03.23 | Usuario | MobyTurbo: at least for modconf, there is no i810_audio option |
| 01:03.34 | Guerin | asg: mmm, cocks and lemon butter ? |
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| 01:03.34 | simonrvn | asg: *g* |
| 01:03.37 | herbi | asg, roger, ill do that if i reboot and its borked :) |
| 01:03.38 | jsoft | what a bunch of nutbars. |
| 01:03.41 | asg | Usuario: then type 'modprobe i810_audio' as root |
| 01:03.44 | bob2 | jsoft: if you have aa question about about some piece of software, just asl |
| 01:03.49 | j4cbo | but i was running an older dhcpd version without problems... have the requirements changed or did i just mess something up in my debian conversion? |
| 01:03.51 | asg | Guerin: fowl, chickens, etc. |
| 01:03.58 | Guerin | asg: suuure. |
| 01:04.01 | swatikiss | Guerin, so, would you advise installing the 2.6 kernel or trying to get this 2.4 image to work ? |
| 01:04.04 | bob2 | jsoft: it's annoying and and stupid to ask if anyone has used it |
| 01:04.06 | jsoft | Ok, Well. IS OSSIM worth the hassle of setting up? |
| 01:04.08 | asg | Usuario: if that doesn't work, print the output of 'uname -r' |
| 01:04.14 | ajavid | bob2, i pasted in #flood |
| 01:04.18 | asg | Guerin: hey, at least Phated isn't here |
| 01:04.25 | swatikiss | Guerin, not having much luck with either atm |
| 01:04.29 | Usuario | MobyTurbo: okay, I was returned not error message with modprobe i810_audio |
| 01:04.38 | Guerin | swatikiss: I don't have a clue how to fix your problem with 2.4, unless it's to fuck with bios settings or swap your pci cards around. |
| 01:04.44 | Guerin | asg: that is a relief :) |
| 01:04.44 | Usuario | MobyTurbo: no error* |
| 01:04.44 | MobyTurbo | Usuario: it's in modconf, I just looked. |
| 01:04.53 | bob2 | ajavid: paste an example of some commands that don't work |
| 01:04.56 | green_earz | Alleria: VMWare session i am not formiluar with but like the sound of it after a google |
| 01:05.00 | swatikiss | Guerin, k |
| 01:05.10 | Usuario | MobyTurbo: what line should I be looking at in modconf? |
| 01:05.10 | swatikiss | Guerin, where wouldi find the module name for my NIC ? |
| 01:05.12 | MobyTurbo | Usuario: check out dmesg to see if it worked for sure. |
| 01:05.16 | Guerin | swatikiss: modconf |
| 01:05.18 | Alleria | green_earz: you might check out their demo. It's great fun. |
| 01:05.25 | jsoft | *sigh* |
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| 01:05.34 | simonrvn | good riddance |
| 01:05.48 | ajavid | bob2, what do you mean |
| 01:05.55 | citral | if he's so patient with setting up things, that's bad |
| 01:06.00 | Guerin | you know he'll just go back to #fedora and whine about how evil debian users are. |
| 01:06.03 | bob2 | ajavid: you say it's not working. paste an example of what doesn't work. |
| 01:06.06 | zeini | hello. i cant install j2sdk1.5 (unstable), I need the package sun-j2sdk1.5. can you give me a source for apt ? thanks |
| 01:06.11 | MobyTurbo | Usuario: kernel/drivers/sound in modconf |
| 01:06.22 | Guerin | !tell zeini about java |
| 01:06.25 | Usuario | MobyTurbo: i810_audio: AC'97 codec 0 Unable to map surround DAC's (or DAC's not present), total channels = 2 |
| 01:06.25 | simonrvn | Guerin: see if i care ;) |
| 01:06.29 | asg | zeini: /msg dpkg j2se-package |
| 01:06.32 | ajavid | bob2, you asked me to paste the output of mount in #flood, I did, I don't know what you are going on about now |
| 01:06.37 | Guerin | simonrvn: see if I do first :) |
| 01:06.45 | simonrvn | Guerin: hehe |
| 01:06.54 | bob2 | ajavid: bah |
| 01:07.00 | bob2 | ajavid: you claim it "doesn't work". |
| 01:07.01 | swatikiss | k |
| 01:07.07 | bob2 | ajavid: which is a useless complaint |
| 01:07.11 | ajavid | no I didn't, i just said only root can read it, not users |
| 01:07.17 | bob2 | ajavid: paste some lines of shell output that show what doesn't work |
| 01:07.19 | ajavid | which I think i said about 1000 times |
| 01:07.23 | MobyTurbo | Usuario: don't worry about that error message, that just means that it doesn't have surround sound support I believe. |
| 01:07.24 | bob2 | show me |
| 01:07.31 | ajavid | show you what? |
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| 01:07.38 | rich_ | debian isnt mean at all. Dont let the trolls get you down, everyone knows we are the best, they consider it a challenge to try to convince people of the most unlikely thing they can think of, no place else on irc is this friendly and helpful. |
| 01:07.39 | romulo | how i force remove of a module from kernel?? |
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| 01:08.08 | rich_ | :) |
| 01:08.21 | Usuario | MobyTurbo: well, there's a + next to that module, so... I assume it's installed |
| 01:08.27 | MobyTurbo | Usuario: yep. |
| 01:08.31 | Guerin | romulo: man rmmod |
| 01:08.37 | zeini | asg: j2se-common could be ? |
| 01:08.46 | MobyTurbo | Usuario: another way to check that is lsmod |
| 01:08.47 | ajavid | you said paste the output of 'mount' I typed mount, and pasted the output in #flood, what are you wanting me to do now? |
| 01:08.48 | Guerin | asg: played Paranoia XP ? |
| 01:09.11 | Guerin | christ |
| 01:09.12 | asg | Guerin: no (unless it relates to the Paranoia roll playing game from way back.) |
| 01:09.13 | novice_ | citral: can u believe that i have my machine crashed after ctrl+alt+back? now i have the .bash_profile lines uncommented and the evil beeps persists. |
| 01:09.17 | ajavid | I said I can mount it, but only root can read it, and users cannot. |
| 01:09.22 | Usuario | MobyTurbo: okay, then, now I think my problem is ALSA + apps that use ALSA |
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| 01:09.28 | asg | Guerin: I did impersonate a member of the clergy at halloween a few years ago though. |
| 01:09.29 | Zap-W | what range of IPs does this cover 212.117.128.0/255.255.252.0 ? |
| 01:09.30 | Guerin | asg: it's the new version, for the Modern Troubleshooter. |
| 01:09.41 | asg | Guerin: ah, rock. I'll have to have a look for it |
| 01:09.41 | Zap-W | 134 ? |
| 01:09.44 | bob2 | ajavid: basically, I think you're confused, and I'm trying to get you to paste unambigious output so I can find out if you are or not |
| 01:09.46 | MobyTurbo | Usuario: if you're runing the latest unstable alsa-base is borked. |
| 01:09.47 | bob2 | but nevermind |
| 01:10.00 | Guerin | asg: http://costik.com/paranoia/ I think |
| 01:10.02 | asg | zeini: what debian version are you running |
| 01:10.02 | citral | novice_: no, I cannot believe that... what console are you using? |
| 01:10.07 | asg | Guerin: cool, thanks |
| 01:10.11 | zeini | asg: unstable |
| 01:10.23 | Guerin | asg: it's got a nifty faux-windows logo and everything :) |
| 01:10.26 | citral | novice_: and did you log out and login again that it takes effect? |
| 01:10.27 | ajavid | I don't deny it brother, I AM confused |
| 01:10.27 | novice_ | citral: u mean my wm? |
| 01:10.35 | novice_ | citral: no |
| 01:10.46 | citral | novice_: the terminal makes beeps not the wm or? |
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| 01:11.00 | MobyTurbo | brb |
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| 01:11.14 | asg | zeini: well http://z42.de/debian/ is what you should look for to convert sun's jvm binaries into compliant packages. |
| 01:11.14 | novice_ | citral: ? |
| 01:11.14 | GomoX | hi |
| 01:11.16 | jharriso1 | son of a |
| 01:11.39 | grendal_prime | thats no way for a gentiman to speak |
| 01:11.41 | Usuario | okay, I'm running Sarge, my sound card is fine module wise, now I need to ALSA-tize the system |
| 01:11.42 | novice_ | citral: everything is working like i've never made any changes. |
| 01:11.42 | citral | novice_: I don't understand you, what do you do that it beeps |
| 01:11.47 | novice_ | citral: :\ |
| 01:11.49 | zeini | asg: thanks. i dont know what to do with the sun's jvm binaries |
| 01:12.01 | Guerin | Usuario: get a 2.6 kernel |
| 01:12.02 | asg | zeini: what I always do, download and install in /usr/local |
| 01:12.21 | citral | novice_: you must log out, not only stop X and restart it you understand? |
| 01:12.25 | asg | zeini: you'll need equivs to create dummy packages to provide depends for anything you want to apt-get though |
| 01:12.42 | rich_ | Usuario If you Need to do something and you cant do it, your dead. I say this because not all sound cards need alsa and some people are just as happy with oss |
| 01:12.49 | asg | zeini: personally, with java, I just store all java related stuff in /usr/local as downloaded for jakarta, sun, etc. |
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| 01:13.08 | novice_ | citral: stop start my gdm? |
| 01:13.09 | zeini | asg: ok. thanks |
| 01:13.16 | asg | zeini: you're welcome |
| 01:13.18 | citral | ah! gdm |
| 01:13.29 | Usuario | Guerin: Okay, do you know if the bug for 2.6 + nvidia drivers is workable? |
| 01:13.39 | citral | novice_: yes, try that |
| 01:13.47 | Usuario | rich_: from what I've heard OSS is totally dead |
| 01:13.49 | Guerin | Usuario: no idea, I don't use nvware. |
| 01:14.02 | Guerin | oss is just as good as it ever was |
| 01:14.07 | asg | Guerin: agreed |
| 01:14.13 | ajavid | vfat rw,users,auto,umask=000 - this is what I use on my fat disk, and it works fine, ntfs users,auto,umask=222 0 0 - this is the options for the ntfs disk, and only root can read it. How do I make it so that users can read it also |
| 01:14.15 | Guerin | it's just that something else is better now |
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| 01:14.24 | asg | citral: it it isn't 'startx' it's crap? |
| 01:14.33 | asg | s/^it/If/ |
| 01:14.33 | Guerin | but if you don't care about that, don't sweat it. |
| 01:14.34 | citral | yes |
| 01:14.35 | novice_ | citral: what the hell...it persists. |
| 01:14.36 | asg | !curse irc |
| 01:14.37 | dpkg | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, irc ! |
| 01:14.46 | simonrvn | nice curse |
| 01:14.46 | Guerin | ha |
| 01:14.50 | zbowling | i feel scared. |
| 01:14.51 | rich_ | Usuario That would be wrong, because I can still hear it, and I didnt even install it, which means iit must have been in the 2.6.9 kernel. But the key things is dead things dont sound like that |
| 01:14.51 | citral | novice_: what do you do that it beeps |
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| 01:14.56 | Guerin | s/XP/Me/ |
| 01:15.05 | novice_ | citral: i've already tried to logged out and in... |
| 01:15.17 | citral | novice_: WHAT DO YOU DO THAT IT BEEPS |
| 01:15.18 | grendal_prime | thats funny stuff |
| 01:15.24 | asg | Guerin: s/Me/Dedicated Solitaire Console/ |
| 01:15.32 | grendal_prime | !curse shit |
| 01:15.33 | dpkg | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, shit ! |
| 01:15.48 | grendal_prime | ouch |
| 01:15.50 | grendal_prime | hahaha |
| 01:15.51 | Guerin | asg: haha |
| 01:15.55 | citral | novice_: When, how, why, and in what application does it beep? |
| 01:16.10 | asg | Guerin: we even have 8 proc servers dedicated to the fine pastime ;) |
| 01:16.20 | Guerin | asg: ...? |
| 01:16.30 | novice_ | citral: when i type a command (e.g anjuta) on a xterm; i strike "tab" during the "anj" and when i press tab, it supposed to don't gimme any beep...like setterm -blegth 0 on the console |
| 01:16.36 | novice_ | -blength |
| 01:16.43 | asg | Guerin: our windows admins apparently don't have a problem installing Solitaire and Freecell on our db machines |
| 01:16.49 | zbowling | i'm moving to canada.. I can't believe Bush won.. I'm still in amazment. I kept thinking, if he does something stupid again, the house will stop him, then I remember that his lackies run the house too.. I feel really sick and really scared about this |
| 01:16.50 | Guerin | w-t-f |
| 01:17.03 | Guerin | asg: that's so many kinds of stupid |
| 01:17.05 | Usuario | rich_: Thanks. I'm still on a 2.4 kernel. I have to fiddle around with my nvidia problems with my 2.6.7-1 firstly. |
| 01:17.36 | asg | Guerin: yes |
| 01:17.37 | zbowling | I feel safer moving to Mexico |
| 01:17.50 | jharriso1 | db servers run windows? |
| 01:17.57 | Guerin | Yeah, whenever I think of this election result, I come back to the old saying that people get the leaders they deserve. |
| 01:18.09 | asg | jharriso1: sadly, the MS-SQL crowd arrived before I did. |
| 01:18.11 | ajavid | ok |
| 01:18.12 | Guerin | jharriso1: they shouldn't, but they can. |
| 01:18.19 | ajavid | so looks like everyone was wrong |
| 01:18.20 | citral | novice_: what I told you about .bashrc works for that, but you can create a /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm file, and put xterm*visualBell:true in it |
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| 01:18.30 | ajavid | including bob2 with the 002 umask |
| 01:18.30 | green_earz | zbowling: i bet that the war busness will like the return of bush |
| 01:18.38 | ajavid | users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0 - this is what works btw |
| 01:18.44 | grendal_prime | my new line at work "Quit bitchen and learn linux" |
| 01:18.45 | ajavid | on the ntfs disks, works perfectly |
| 01:18.47 | citral | novice_: at least it is 100% sure not to beep anymore |
| 01:18.50 | jharriso1 | yay bush won |
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| 01:19.05 | asg | jharriso1: much better if you said 'yay, you won bush' |
| 01:19.13 | ajavid | jharriso1, yeh, now we can wait for world war 3 |
| 01:19.16 | Guerin | ajavid: that's an ownership issue you could have gotten around by putting your users in a group and specifying gid |
| 01:19.33 | rich_ | Guerin They declared war on me in 1980, so Its a little comforting to know Im not alone. |
| 01:19.43 | rich_ | The more the merrier |
| 01:19.45 | ajavid | Guerin, if i knew how to do all that, I would be helping poeople like you, not begging for help |
| 01:19.46 | ajavid | :) |
| 01:19.51 | chealer | Guerin: took in note your old saying |
| 01:20.02 | jharriso1 | bunch of liberals |
| 01:20.10 | rich_ | Ive always been a trend setter :) |
| 01:20.21 | ajavid | Guerin, and if you knew what the problem was, why didn't you help me out? |
| 01:20.29 | jharriso1 | my 2.6.9 kernel is happy that bush won |
| 01:20.38 | asg | jharriso1: to disagree with the outcome does not make one a liberal |
| 01:20.38 | ajavid | you instead of the sarcasm, could've told me what to do, walk me through it once and i'll learn |
| 01:20.40 | Guerin | ajavid: I don't even own a ntfs drive, and I haven't set umask on anythign in months. All I know how to do is RTFM. |
| 01:21.05 | ajavid | catch fish for me, i eat for a day, teach me to fish, i eat for a lifetime |
| 01:21.09 | ajavid | im sure youve heard that one |
| 01:21.16 | Guerin | ajavid: I didn't really. I'm no expert on it, so I prefer to leave it to those people who know more. They undoubtedly know the same. |
| 01:21.16 | ajavid | anyway, thanks |
| 01:21.21 | ajavid | I did finally get it to work |
| 01:21.24 | asg | ajavid: yes, every BitchX quit message has it |
| 01:21.24 | jharriso1 | asg: yes thats true |
| 01:21.25 | ajavid | so its all good |
| 01:21.26 | ajavid | :0 |
| 01:21.34 | swatikiss | i cant get my sound to work in my debian box - trying to use alsa with my opl3sa2 module |
| 01:21.43 | ajavid | oh |
| 01:21.43 | Guerin | hahaha |
| 01:21.45 | novice_ | citral: create a file called xterm? and put the command on it? isn't there another way? i mean...if i want to compile w/ anjuta and wish not hear the beep signal? should i create another file and put the command inside it? |
| 01:21.50 | ajavid | and in case anyyone wants to know |
| 01:21.54 | zeini | jharrisol: , your kernel is happy. my kernel is sad (2.6.8) |
| 01:22.01 | Guerin | swatikiss: is the opl3sa2 soldered to your laptop's mainboard? |
| 01:22.01 | ajavid | http://www.linuxforum.com/linux_tutorials/1/1.php |
| 01:22.05 | novice_ | citral: so, i should do that w/ the others programs? |
| 01:22.05 | jharriso1 | zeini: 2.6.8 never worked for me |
| 01:22.06 | ajavid | maybe you could learn something from that |
| 01:22.07 | swatikiss | Guerin, yes |
| 01:22.09 | ajavid | if you dn't know |
| 01:22.17 | citral | novice_: http://home.infomaniak.ch/mongenet/Marc/Articles/Journebian/xterm.resources.txt |
| 01:22.20 | asg | jharriso1: have they fixed the tg3 code in 2.6.9 yet? |
| 01:22.21 | Guerin | swatikiss: that's the only reasson not to throw it away :( |
| 01:22.24 | jharriso1 | now all of my machines are 2.6.9 except for 2 |
| 01:22.30 | citral | very small, simple example |
| 01:22.37 | jharriso1 | asg: yeah I believe so |
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| 01:22.53 | citral | novice_: depends on the apps, you may want to create one for emacs e.g. |
| 01:22.56 | Guerin | ajavid: I have already demonstrated my ability to RTFM. You haven't. So don't lecture me. |
| 01:22.58 | asg | jharriso1: the HW autoneg failure one? |
| 01:23.07 | jharriso1 | asg: yeah |
| 01:23.08 | swatikiss | Guerin, i am not sure what i should do to get it to work |
| 01:23.13 | jharriso1 | asg: check the changelog to be sure |
| 01:23.16 | asg | jharriso1: *nod* |
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| 01:23.32 | asg | jharriso1: it doesn't matter that much, the sarge installer will not likely include it. |
| 01:23.43 | ajavid | once againk, you get defensive for no reason, u havn't set up umasks on ntfs in ages, I just pointed to the page for future ref. knowlege can't hurt. Im not downin on ya, why you get defensive, i never lectured you |
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| 01:23.47 | jharriso1 | postfix on my new server seems to be quite screwed up though |
| 01:23.50 | novice_ | citral: ok...thanks |
| 01:23.56 | jharriso1 | ill have to look into that |
| 01:24.06 | Guerin | swatikiss: paste the output of the following commands to paster: uname -a ; dpkg -l |grep alsa ; lsmod |grep snd |
| 01:24.12 | Guerin | !paste |
| 01:24.12 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ to paste. |
| 01:24.17 | Guerin | swatikiss: ^^ |
| 01:24.38 | Usuario | my friend wants to download cvs stuff on Windows, so that he can install the drivers on his linuxtop for a wireless card how can he do that? |
| 01:24.56 | Guerin | ajavid: I don't need to set umask, because I only use filesystems with sane permissions. And if I did need to set a umask, I'm perfectly capable of readin up on how to. |
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| 01:25.02 | swatikiss | Guerin, k, one sec |
| 01:25.03 | ajavid | and btw, Guerin , I come on irc AFTER exhausting all known(to me) recources of information. so thank you, and don't tell me shit about RTFM, ok |
| 01:25.11 | swatikiss | Guerin, paster ? |
| 01:25.26 | Guerin | !whine ajavid |
| 01:25.33 | citral | heh |
| 01:25.35 | Guerin | swatikiss: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 01:25.39 | ajavid | I had a guy bitching at me yesterday about rtfm, but wouldn't tell me which manual to fucking read |
| 01:25.57 | ajavid | you are pretty much doing the same |
| 01:26.06 | Guerin | ajavid: that's not what I did, though. I even told you which part of which manpage to read. |
| 01:26.30 | ajavid | and I have, if i don't understand it clearly, and ask qustiona about it, you get pissed |
| 01:26.31 | simonrvn | is umask the only way to set the perms on dirs/files for a mount command? |
| 01:26.43 | directhex_ | no, there's dmask and fmask too |
| 01:26.57 | ajavid | u prolly get asked tese questions 1000 times a day, i can understand |
| 01:26.59 | directhex_ | the correct umask for everyone to read ntfs is 0222, in my experience, for the record |
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| 01:27.02 | dondelelcaro | !u |
| 01:27.02 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. |
| 01:27.03 | simonrvn | just masking, eh? damn |
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| 01:27.21 | directhex_ | simonrvn, despite the names, dmask and fmask are actual permissions, not masks |
| 01:27.27 | Guerin | directhex_: that makes sense |
| 01:27.28 | simonrvn | autofs is reading the umask wrong, and setting shit d------x |
| 01:27.41 | simonrvn | directhex_: ah i see. thanks |
| 01:27.44 | chealer | Usuario: tortoisecvs? |
| 01:27.56 | ajavid | just because you have been on linux longer and know more doesn't make you special, get off your high horse |
| 01:28.06 | Guerin | I think that paste url needs to go in the topic so we can refer people directly to the topic |
| 01:28.09 | ajavid | all of you arrogant ones in here |
| 01:28.15 | ajavid | love an peace guys |
| 01:28.15 | Guerin | ajavid: jesus, it's not about that at all. |
| 01:28.16 | ajavid | :D |
| 01:28.19 | Usuario | chealer: gracias, mi amigo |
| 01:28.32 | jharriso1 | I dont get along well with others |
| 01:28.43 | directhex_ | aw shit, gotta be up for work in 5 hours. tata |
| 01:28.45 | ajavid | Guerin, its all good, man. I'm sorry, i'll stop arguying |
| 01:28.58 | Guerin | directhex_: ciao :) |
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| 01:29.00 | citral | wget rocks my life |
| 01:29.07 | ajavid | you are right, i am wrong, i need you more than you need me, so i'll have to suck it up |
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| 01:29.09 | simonrvn | ajavid: just shut up already |
| 01:29.10 | Guerin | citral: lftp 4 evar! |
| 01:29.24 | citral | Guerin: for http? |
| 01:29.31 | Guerin | citral: yup :) |
| 01:29.32 | simonrvn | sheesh, i've never seen someone complain so much about nothing i na fucking long time |
| 01:29.35 | Usuario | Does anyone use the "nvidia" driver? I am having problems with kernel 2.6 and x starting (but not 2.4 problems) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=238997 |
| 01:29.43 | rich_ | ajavid Well if he got asked that question so often iut would probably be in the bot. But if its in the manual, that doesnt mean I or someone else should read the manual for you. Maybe if you can find something constructive to say about it and and carry on a cionvorsation, someone who just happens to know will tell you, otherwise, you might have to read the manual :) |
| 01:29.44 | Guerin | citral: wget is better for trivial stuff though |
| 01:29.48 | directhex_ | Usuario, no, nobody has ever used it |
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| 01:29.53 | chealer | !nvidia |
| 01:29.53 | dpkg | i guess nvidia is To learn how to install nvidia drivers on your Debian system see 'nvidia-howto' or maybe 'nvidia debs'. That should explain all you need to know. http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 01:29.56 | jharriso1 | simonrvn: what exactly is a fucking long time? |
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| 01:30.01 | jharriso1 | simonrvn: is that the same as a long time? |
| 01:30.08 | paster | "zbowling" at 68.95.129.16 pasted "Microsoft Source Comment" (8 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/26 |
| 01:30.33 | simonrvn | jharriso1: longer than "a long time" |
| 01:30.42 | Guerin | hah |
| 01:30.47 | Usuario | directhex_: nobody has ever used what? |
| 01:30.57 | jharriso1 | simonrvn: ok ill remember that when I want to stress longer then a long time |
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| 01:31.05 | simonrvn | autofs doesn't grok fmask, dmask. crap |
| 01:31.05 | Usuario | dpkg: somebody bashed that link |
| 01:31.06 | dpkg | i don't know, Usuario |
| 01:31.11 | citral | Guerin: wow, backgrounding downloads and browsing at the same time is cool, I'm gonna try it |
| 01:31.11 | simonrvn | jharriso1: :) |
| 01:31.18 | chealer | Usuario: it was sarcasm. he's saying it's obvious that people use nvidia on 2.6, just like me |
| 01:31.31 | swatikiss_ | Guerin, k, i pasted it |
| 01:31.31 | ajavid | rich_, I HAVE read the manual many times, and have looked on google for insane amounts of time, after exhausting all venues knwon to me, I come on irc seeeking help, I don't just come on irc and start asking questions trying to take the easy way out. i have no problem reading, but I am handicapped, I am in a fucking wheelchair, I can't get out much and I don't know many people, and irc is the onl place left for me to ask questions, and well |
| 01:31.31 | ajavid | , you konw how it is online, people just get ticked off like that |
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| 01:31.50 | directhex_ | i got lost. what was ajavid trying to do? |
| 01:31.56 | chealer | !dpkg |
| 01:31.56 | dpkg | somebody said dpkg was the debian package manager, sort of like the debian equivalent to rpm. a blootbot on #debian, or a bloodbot on #crack |
| 01:32.00 | Usuario | chealer: where you aware of this bug and did you dpkg -i the package before you got nvidia working? |
| 01:32.15 | jharriso1 | ive got to get some coding done |
| 01:32.21 | ajavid | directhex, i got it working now |
| 01:32.24 | Guerin | ajavid: apart from the stupidity, your brain seems to work ok. DOn't play the "I'm a cripple" card. |
| 01:32.26 | ajavid | i was just saying in general |
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| 01:32.44 | otto__ | wie heist das progamm internet Telefon |
| 01:32.45 | ajavid | Guerin, im not |
| 01:32.47 | Guerin | citral: the best thing about it is its ability to do clean incremental mirrors over http |
| 01:33.00 | citral | ah ah. |
| 01:33.07 | ajavid | and I am not stupid, mind you |
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| 01:33.33 | Guerin | swatikiss_: did you paste to that paste site? it should have give us the url. |
| 01:33.44 | swatikiss_ | Guerin, ill try again |
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| 01:34.02 | Guerin | swatikiss_: just give me the gdmf url |
| 01:34.21 | cafuego | Guerin: www.google.com |
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| 01:34.29 | swatikiss_ | i just did it again |
| 01:34.34 | Guerin | ... |
| 01:34.49 | nikky | hallo |
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| 01:35.14 | swatikiss_ | i dont think it worked |
| 01:35.27 | Guerin | swatikiss_: 1) go here: http://channels.debian.net/paste 2) follow simple instructions |
| 01:35.39 | nikky | kann mir jemand helfen?wie heißt das inzernet telefon unter debian? |
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| 01:35.53 | Usuario | chealer: where 2.6.x are you running? |
| 01:35.55 | sussudio | !de |
| 01:35.55 | dpkg | de is, like, deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 01:36.11 | chealer | Usuario: well kinda...I did a difficult and very long install of nvidia, but learned after that there should have been easier ways. I'm running 2.6.6 |
| 01:36.23 | citral | nikky: gnomemeeting. |
| 01:36.45 | Usuario | chealer: I'd like the easy way please ^.^ |
| 01:36.55 | swatikiss_ | Guerin, yes, i have done that 3 or 4 times now - no luck |
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| 01:37.07 | Guerin | swatikiss_: luck has nothing to do with it |
| 01:37.18 | Usuario | chealer: I'm doing 2.6.7-1 and already installed that package, currently on a working 2.4.x |
| 01:37.19 | Guerin | swatikiss_: jesus |
| 01:37.19 | zbowling | why do germans like David Hasselhoff? |
| 01:37.31 | ajavid | Guerin, i hope you get in a wheel chair soon, and stay in one for the rest of your life, you might even develop compassion for the 'cripples' |
| 01:37.32 | swatikiss_ | could i just paste in flood for you |
| 01:37.52 | Guerin | ajavid: I have plenty of compassion for them. |
| 01:37.55 | Guerin | swatikiss_: do it. |
| 01:37.55 | citral | zbowling: David Hasseldoof |
| 01:37.56 | asg | zbowling: why do Americans have an infatuation with the Royals |
| 01:38.05 | chealer | Usuario: did you try nvidia-kernel-source, nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-kernel-2.6.6 and nvidia-glx |
| 01:38.14 | ajavid | you show it real well too don't you |
| 01:38.16 | cafuego | asg: The alternative is the monkey |
| 01:38.30 | rich_ | zbowling in what way do they like him? And doesnt his name mean something like house of comraderie or something like that? |
| 01:38.30 | Guerin | ajavid: I used the term advisedly. |
| 01:38.33 | chealer | I never tried the easy way, I just realized after my way seemed overcomplicated, so I'm not the best to advise |
| 01:38.37 | nikky | thank you citral |
| 01:39.00 | ajavid | is it just too hard to treat people with respect man, i mean thats all anyone wants right? |
| 01:39.00 | asg | cafuego: Charles or W? |
| 01:39.00 | citral | nikky: kein problem. |
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| 01:39.01 | ajavid | u have just been doggin me all night long |
| 01:39.01 | cafuego | asg: W |
| 01:39.01 | rich_ | or hospitality house? |
| 01:39.08 | ajavid | i dunno what i did wrong by asking about ntfs |
| 01:39.09 | asg | cafuego: *nod* |
| 01:39.16 | cafuego | ajavid: I don't need no steekin respect, I need alcohol and hookers! |
| 01:39.16 | ajavid | but jesus christ man |
| 01:39.23 | Usuario | chealer: sure, I have all those except I have nvidia-kernel-2.6.7-1-386 |
| 01:39.27 | ajavid | cafuego, :) |
| 01:39.41 | Guerin | ajavid: please stop your heart from bleeding all over our nice clean channel. |
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| 01:39.50 | ajavid | Guerin, fuck you |
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| 01:39.57 | cthulfuego | free blood? |
| 01:40.08 | chealer | Usuario: and that's not enough?... what's missing or not working? |
| 01:40.10 | asg | cthulfuego: ftagn |
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| 01:40.26 | asg | cthulfuego: that was the diminutive |
| 01:40.31 | Guerin | !hah |
| 01:41.01 | Guerin | !qotd0 |
| 01:41.01 | dpkg | i guess qotd52 is <sideone> ricky_clarkson: i try to give all women a chance, until they blow it. |
| 01:41.05 | cthulfuego | last time he licked a hole in my arm |
| 01:41.11 | nikky | hey citral sprechst du englisch oder deursch als muttersprache |
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| 01:41.19 | ajavid | argh |
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| 01:41.28 | sussudio | !dachs nikky |
| 01:41.29 | citral | nikky: I'm french |
| 01:41.29 | dpkg | nikky: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
| 01:41.31 | Nyle | wow, after waiting all day I finally get the computer |
| 01:41.32 | zbowling | !bugs 277298 |
| 01:41.35 | dpkg | #277298:I[kernel-image-2.6.7-1-686-smp] Kernel 2.6.x real time clock hang on Dell (patch) |
| 01:41.35 | Nyle | hows it goin fellas |
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| 01:41.47 | Guerin | Nyle: your mate is a fucktard. |
| 01:41.52 | Nyle | who |
| 01:41.55 | citral | franzose heiist das |
| 01:41.55 | Usuario | chealer: I get the coughing sneezing XFree, it tries all three video resolutions and fails |
| 01:41.57 | Guerin | ajavid |
| 01:42.00 | nikky | ah okey |
| 01:42.02 | Nyle | oh |
| 01:42.05 | Nyle | he's got problems man |
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| 01:42.17 | asg | cthulfuego: shub-niggurath X30? |
| 01:42.18 | Guerin | yeah, we know. |
| 01:42.25 | cthulfuego | asg: AthlonXP 2200+ |
| 01:42.26 | zbowling | I wondering |
| 01:42.32 | Nyle | some drunk hit the poor guy, now he is in a wheel chair and usually depressed |
| 01:42.35 | Nyle | i learned to ignore him |
| 01:42.38 | Nyle | thas my brother btw |
| 01:42.44 | simonrvn | Nyle: and rather than fixing them, he takes out his frustration on everyone else |
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| 01:42.51 | Nyle | hey man |
| 01:42.52 | swatikiss | Guerin, ill try again |
| 01:42.54 | Nyle | what can you do |
| 01:42.55 | paster | "swatikiss" at 68.74.28.254 pasted "sound issues" (10 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/27 |
| 01:42.55 | cthulfuego | asg: With 8 16X DVDRW drives |
| 01:42.59 | jharriso1 | its amazing how well postfix can handle spam |
| 01:43.00 | Nyle | i gotta put up with it you know |
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| 01:43.04 | Nyle | he is my brother |
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| 01:43.09 | Nyle | sorry for his antics |
| 01:43.12 | Nyle | i apologize |
| 01:43.16 | asg | cthulfuego: oh, don't let california find out |
| 01:43.18 | Nyle | i didnt even know he chatted here |
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| 01:43.24 | Nyle | or seked help rather |
| 01:43.25 | simonrvn | Nyle: not you don't. talk straight with him, and get him to solve his issues. but what do i know |
| 01:43.25 | cthulfuego | asg: Eh? |
| 01:43.40 | cthulfuego | asg: Why would that matter? |
| 01:43.47 | Nyle | anyway |
| 01:43.59 | chealer | Usuario: seriously, that experience was so bad and long I don't remember what I did. try the URL dpkg referred to, or ask in #nvidia...eventually ask me if you really hit a wall |
| 01:44.00 | Guerin | swatikiss: awesome |
| 01:44.02 | Nyle | oh sweet, my ntfs disk is loaded, music time |
| 01:44.13 | asg | cthulfuego: hollywood (8 x dvdrws indicates massive cloning.) |
| 01:44.46 | Nyle | hey, I am trying to get my webcam working, its a logitech quick cam express. what drivers do I need for the kernel, or how do I go about configuring it, google isn't displaying anything useful |
| 01:44.47 | cthulfuego | asg: Yes, I clone data dvds for clients, not movies. The shit hollywood produces isn't WORTH a $1 DVD disc. |
| 01:44.51 | Guerin | swatikiss: run modconf and probe snd_opl3sa2 |
| 01:44.55 | Guerin | swatikiss: actually |
| 01:44.56 | Usuario | chealer: thanks for your help, I will firstly go into 2.6.7-1-386 and read my XFree log |
| 01:44.58 | asg | cthulfuego: ;) |
| 01:44.59 | dofre | hi |
| 01:45.05 | Guerin | swatikiss: just do modprobe snd_opl3sa2 |
| 01:45.15 | simonrvn | Nyle: try the ova11 (or whatever the name is0 driver |
| 01:45.19 | docgnome | Is anyone using the drivers provided for ATI cards that ATI provides, rather than the ones that come with X? |
| 01:45.22 | simonrvn | s/0/)/ |
| 01:45.34 | simonrvn | docgnome: no |
| 01:45.37 | cthulfuego | asg: Quite happy about it too, a 7 drive prebuilt duplicator is $3300 and I can build one for $1900 :-) |
| 01:45.41 | Nyle | simonrvn, can you give me some keywords to search for on google, im not quite sure what you mean by ovall |
| 01:45.45 | asg | cthulfuego: nice |
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| 01:45.48 | Geren | hi |
| 01:45.50 | cthulfuego | asg: ... with space in the case for 3 more drives. |
| 01:45.51 | Geren | anyone familiar with PS2? |
| 01:45.52 | simonrvn | Nyle: that's 11, not ll |
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| 01:45.56 | asg | cthulfuego: oooooo |
| 01:45.58 | Cit | I'm running sid on an ext3 fs and kernel 2.6.8.1, the machine just crashed, on reboot fsck complains that it needs to be run manually, so I do, and it throws up dozens of errors ... any suggestions how to proceed from here? should I just say yes to fixing all the errors or what? |
| 01:46.01 | Nyle | oh one one |
| 01:46.02 | docgnome | simonrvn: no? |
| 01:46.03 | Geren | can i download PS2 games and burn them onto a cd and play on PS2? |
| 01:46.09 | docgnome | simonrvn: why? |
| 01:46.09 | asg | Geren: I had tons of fun playing GT3 |
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| 01:46.12 | dofre | xdm or gdm refuse to connect user but with startx method it's does anyone idea? |
| 01:46.13 | sussudio | Geren: wtf |
| 01:46.17 | Nyle | i'll look it up, thanks, brb |
| 01:46.18 | asg | Geren: no, go away |
| 01:46.20 | swatikiss | Guerin, "can't locate module snd_oplsa2" |
| 01:46.26 | simonrvn | docgnome: why would i bother with non-free drivers even if i could use them? |
| 01:46.26 | Guerin | Cit: back the filesystem up with dd before proceeding, if you can. |
| 01:46.28 | Geren | cause i know there are ways to get ps2 games onto cd's and play |
| 01:46.30 | sussudio | what's with the warez-tards today? |
| 01:46.31 | Geren | without buying it |
| 01:46.33 | Guerin | swatikiss: opl3sa2 ? |
| 01:46.34 | dofre | but with startx it's ok sorry |
| 01:46.35 | asg | Geren: not here |
| 01:46.41 | Cit | Guerin: and if I can't? |
| 01:46.41 | asg | Geren: try #exceed on efnet |
| 01:46.49 | Geren | join #exceed |
| 01:46.51 | docgnome | simonrvn: Because they might do a better job than the ones provided with X thats what i'm trying to figure out |
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| 01:46.54 | asg | Geren: you are a moron |
| 01:46.57 | Guerin | Cit: but typically the only eway to fix it is to allow fsck to do its thang. |
| 01:46.58 | Geren | no i'm serious |
| 01:47.06 | asg | Geren: efnet, not freenode |
| 01:47.12 | swatikiss | Guerin, that didnt complain about anything (opl3sa2) |
| 01:47.15 | simonrvn | docgnome: what i said stands. kernel and x drivers work fine for me. i do not care |
| 01:47.18 | kensai | Is there a way to have sound in doom 3 although I use the alsa drivers? |
| 01:47.29 | Guerin | swatikiss: just returned you to a prompt? |
| 01:47.31 | Cit | Guerin: I'm happy to do that, but is it likely to destroy data if I just say yes? |
| 01:47.31 | Geren | what is exceed? |
| 01:47.33 | swatikiss | yes |
| 01:47.33 | chealer | kensai: are you using KDE? |
| 01:47.36 | sussudio | helix? |
| 01:47.39 | kensai | nope gnome |
| 01:47.40 | green_earz | Nyle: Package: camstream (0.26.3-7) |
| 01:47.40 | green_earz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.40 | green_earz | Collection of tools for webcams and other video-devices |
| 01:47.41 | Nyle | oh jesus christ, what did you guys say to him, man, he's been in his room crying this whole time |
| 01:47.42 | Guerin | Cit: it's possible, yeah. |
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| 01:47.45 | debian | !test |
| 01:47.45 | Nyle | what the hell happened |
| 01:47.46 | dpkg | No, debian, you're not online any more. |
| 01:47.51 | asg | Geren: a place to get l33t w4r3z (at least in 1996 or so) |
| 01:47.55 | RoSmecher | anyone here good in scheme? |
| 01:47.58 | chealer | kensai: ask directhex :) |
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| 01:48.14 | Cit | damnit, see, that's where the problem is =) |
| 01:48.17 | asg | RoSmecher: #scheme |
| 01:48.22 | cthulfuego | swatikiss: Then it's loaded OK and you now have sound. |
| 01:48.22 | zbowling | !beer everyone |
| 01:48.23 | Guerin | Nyle: that was probably my fault. |
| 01:48.27 | olmo | will a driver made for 2.4 work on the 2.6 kernel? |
| 01:48.27 | RoSmecher | asg the guys in scheme are no good |
| 01:48.28 | swatikiss | if i try to run "play foo.mp3" it gives me : sox: can't open output file '/dev/dsp': no such device |
| 01:48.30 | chealer | kensai: but there is a way, because I use ALSA |
| 01:48.30 | Cit | shite, I don't have any space to backup the fs |
| 01:48.31 | simonrvn | Nyle: he thought people were picking on him, when and he was making a big ass of himself |
| 01:48.31 | Geren | asg, no no i'm not talking about playing on pc, but playing on the ps2 console |
| 01:48.36 | zeini | bye |
| 01:48.39 | swatikiss | cthulfuego, i have yet to hear anything tho |
| 01:48.44 | zbowling | !drink me |
| 01:48.45 | asg | RoSmecher: well, we aren't likely to be much better but ask your question |
| 01:48.50 | olmo | will a driver made for 2.4 work on the 2.6 kernel? |
| 01:48.52 | Guerin | swatikiss: ok, modprobe snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss |
| 01:48.54 | kensai | chealer: thanks |
| 01:48.56 | sussudio | olmo: no, it will not |
| 01:48.58 | jharriso1 | well dudes you can fall for it if you like but im not |
| 01:49.05 | Guerin | swatikiss: those two modules are alsa's oss emulation |
| 01:49.05 | asg | Geren: download X from Interthingy and burn to disc is warez. |
| 01:49.06 | rich_ | Nyle who? Nothing ever happens here. He's just frustrated because of some computer problem if you ask me. No one ever gets upset here unless their computer is broke. |
| 01:49.12 | olmo | hm anyone have a bookmark to a good "intel pro/100 VE" driver? |
| 01:49.16 | kensai | direchtex: Are you there? |
| 01:49.18 | swatikiss | Guerin, cant locate snd-pcm-oss |
| 01:49.24 | sussudio | olmo: wtf? |
| 01:49.29 | swatikiss | Guerin, or the other |
| 01:49.36 | simonrvn | Nyle: like i said, he has issues, and he needs to fix them |
| 01:49.38 | olmo | what? |
| 01:49.38 | Nyle | rich_, well, apparantly something DID happen, my older brother is very upset |
| 01:49.43 | Guerin | swatikiss: did you build this kernel yourself, of is it a debian kernel? |
| 01:49.44 | sussudio | why would a NIC need a value edition? |
| 01:49.56 | sussudio | olmo: are you even using debian? |
| 01:49.58 | asg | olmo: try 'modprobe e100' |
| 01:50.00 | swatikiss | Guerin, this is now the debian kernel : bf24 |
| 01:50.06 | docgnome | Anybody using the ATI drivers provided by ATI? I'm wondering if they work any better than the ones that come with X. I'm developing Java apps, and when things get painted there is a hellava lot of flicker/slowdown, and i'm wondering if thats the video card driver, or if the JVM is measurably slower under Linux than other OSes. Which would make no sense to me. |
| 01:50.06 | donpaolo | Hi guys! What should I change in a testing box in order to have correct use of utf-8? Now I put a utf-8 locale, and set it as a default gnome language setting, but I keep seeing "strange" characters, in gnome terminal, in xchat, in galeon. Any hint? |
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| 01:50.16 | olmo | thanks asg |
| 01:50.17 | Nyle | ok, well my life is shitty, now I gotta go talk to him |
| 01:50.18 | Guerin | Nyle: I was pretty hard on him for being a whining moron for hours and hours, and then not shutting up about it once he got his problem solved. |
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| 01:50.36 | Guerin | swatikiss: aargh |
| 01:50.39 | olmo | what's suppose to happen asg? |
| 01:50.43 | Nyle | bah, he IS a whiner |
| 01:50.49 | Guerin | swatikiss: I thought you were using a 2.6 kernel |
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| 01:51.00 | asg | olmo: nothing hopefully except that '/sbin/ifconfig -a' will indicate a new network device |
| 01:51.16 | swatikiss | Guerin, i wasnt able to get that working so i went back to bf24 |
| 01:51.23 | rich_ | Nyle people bring their frustration here. When they get obscessed about language and other things its because they were all ready frustrated and it just came to the surface. Seriously, its probably a computer problem. |
| 01:51.24 | chealer | kensai: do you have a specific problem, like an error at startup? |
| 01:51.25 | Nyle | anyway, the guy really is a genuine problem haver, take it easy on him, or ignore him, harsh words just make him like this, and the I have to go waste my time talking to him, everytime anything happens |
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| 01:51.38 | swatikiss | Guerin, should i go back to the 2.6 and try to get that working ? |
| 01:51.43 | kensai | nope just that I have no sound |
| 01:51.52 | Nyle | anyway i gotta go |
| 01:51.55 | sussudio | Nyle: just don't let him come here again, things will be fine. |
| 01:52.00 | Nyle | i'll be back about the webam later |
| 01:52.03 | Guerin | swatikiss: yeah, I barely know how to get this card working under oss, but under alsa it's not hard. |
| 01:52.06 | asg | Nyle: #hottub is a great place for such things. |
| 01:52.17 | simonrvn | fucking spfd.. |
| 01:52.17 | kensai | should I start doom 3 from terminal and put the output for you to see? |
| 01:52.18 | Nyle | sussudio, i'll try dude, lol, I can't watch him all day long, I got work and school |
| 01:52.18 | zbowling | !gun |
| 01:52.18 | dpkg | gun is, like, fun |
| 01:52.25 | olmo | asg i'm getting the ifconfig mostly gibberish |
| 01:52.26 | swatikiss | Guerin, i need 2.6 in order to use alsa ? |
| 01:52.35 | rich_ | everyone gets frustrated, its part of life, but the more things work, the less frustrated they get, just an observation. |
| 01:52.36 | simonrvn | !gun =~ s/fun/stupid/ |
| 01:52.36 | dpkg | simonrvn: OK |
| 01:52.41 | asg | olmo: when you typed 'modprobe e100' did it just return a prompt? |
| 01:52.42 | chealer | kensai: do you have alsa-oss compatibility? |
| 01:52.47 | olmo | ye |
| 01:52.51 | Guerin | swatikiss: you don't need it, but if you don't have it, it makes things tricky. YUou need to install extra kernel modules, etc. |
| 01:53.00 | swatikiss | k |
| 01:53.05 | swatikiss | ill takle it tomorrow |
| 01:53.05 | asg | olmo: okay, then 'man 5 interfaces' (or /msg dpkg man interfaces) and setup the card. |
| 01:53.20 | olmo | htanks |
| 01:53.34 | kensai | thts what I don't know |
| 01:53.38 | Guerin | well |
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| 01:53.47 | Guerin | it's nearly 1100, so I'm going back to bed |
| 01:53.51 | asg | Guerin: night |
| 01:53.54 | kensai | chealer: where do I chweck that is that a package on apt? |
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| 01:53.55 | Guerin | nope |
| 01:53.57 | Guerin | morning |
| 01:53.58 | cthulfuego | Guerin: Pfffrt. |
| 01:54.01 | chealer | kensai: I can send you the log of a discussion I had with directhex if you wish |
| 01:54.04 | cthulfuego | asg: 1100 != 2300 |
| 01:54.05 | asg | Guerin: as in Good Night |
| 01:54.10 | docgnome | Does anyone use the drivers provided by ATI for their cards? I'm wondering if they work better than those provided by X. |
| 01:54.18 | kensai | chealer: good Idea |
| 01:54.18 | asg | cthulfuego: I know GuerinSTD |
| 01:54.23 | jharriso1 | docgnome: I do |
| 01:54.27 | chealer | kensai: there is an alsa-oss package |
| 01:54.35 | cthulfuego | docgnome: If you have a radeon 9xxx the ati ones will work better, yes. |
| 01:54.36 | Guerin | ah, I slept really badly, and my wife is still in bed, so I could do a couple hours... |
| 01:55.01 | cthulfuego | Guerin: Make your wife cook you brunch ;-) |
| 01:55.19 | sussudio | in soviet russia, brunch cooks you. |
| 01:55.20 | asg | cthulfuego: Chocolate HotDog Egg! |
| 01:55.24 | kensai | chealer: I'll check it now |
| 01:55.30 | zbowling | !ifconfig |
| 01:55.30 | dpkg | methinks ifconfig is the tool you use in Debian to setup how your machine decides how to process "if" conditional statements. if you type `ifconfig all-true` everything will be true. someone also told me it has to viewing and configuring your networking interfaces... |
| 01:55.36 | cthulfuego | asg: I was thinking eggs florentine |
| 01:55.44 | asg | cthulfuego: whatever works |
| 01:55.49 | docgnome | jharriso1: happen to know of a good tutorial for installing them? |
| 01:56.09 | jharriso1 | docgnome: just the one in my head |
| 01:56.10 | kensai | chealer: I found it should I install it? |
| 01:56.31 | cthulfuego | Hmm, Bagle.AU outbreak today? |
| 01:56.40 | asg | cthulfuego: haven't seen one here |
| 01:56.57 | zbowling | apt-get install apt-get ? |
| 01:56.59 | chealer | kensai: alsa-oss compatibility was not MY issue, that package was already installed |
| 01:57.07 | jharriso1 | docgnome: compile a kernel with no direct rendering and with the agpgart driver built in for your motherboard chipset (not as a module) |
| 01:57.24 | kensai | Ohh so I'll check thene |
| 01:57.33 | jharriso1 | docgnome: then download the ati rpm and do 'alien fglrx.rpm' to turn it into a deb |
| 01:57.34 | kensai | chealer can you send me the log? |
| 01:57.49 | jharriso1 | docgnome: then instal the deb with dpkg -i --force-overwrite fglrx.deb |
| 01:57.55 | cthulfuego | jharriso1: There's a debianised fglrx installer afaik |
| 01:58.14 | cthulfuego | !ati drivers |
| 01:58.14 | dpkg | debs of the binary ATI drivers are at http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html (requires that the 'rpm' package be installed) Be sure to *modularize* both the AGP GART and the Radeon DRM options in your custom kernel (under Character Devices). ATI's binary driver does NOT support 9700 mobility radeon or the Mobility U1. See http://www.freedesktop.org/~dri/snapshots/README.Debian for Radeon U1 DRI. |
| 01:58.22 | jharriso1 | ah |
| 01:58.26 | cthulfuego | docgnome: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 01:58.28 | jharriso1 | use those then |
| 01:58.48 | chealer | kensai: I'm formatting it. do you get sound with cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ? |
| 01:59.03 | jharriso1 | I should put my directions up on my site |
| 01:59.10 | helix | sussudio: yes? |
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| 02:00.05 | olmo | asg the problem is that i've gone into the modconf |
| 02:00.13 | sussudio | helix: people asking for warez and crap. |
| 02:00.16 | olmo | but i can't the module for the intel pro/100 |
| 02:00.23 | olmo | als |
| 02:00.29 | zbowling | HEHEHE.. comic chat 2.0 still works... wonder what it looks like in here? |
| 02:00.36 | cthulfuego | #APPEARS AS ANNA |
| 02:00.37 | asg | olmo: does 'lsmod | grep e100' list e100? |
| 02:00.38 | olmo | also i've laready installed another module for an intel pro/1000 nic that i have |
| 02:00.42 | citral | rmmf I have problems with "find . -size -10240k | xargs rm {};" because the file names have fucking white spaces in it |
| 02:00.48 | sussudio | helix: he's gone now |
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| 02:00.51 | asg | zbowling: as long as I get to be the Tiki Head, I don't care |
| 02:00.56 | helix | ok |
| 02:01.03 | olmo | yeah actually both the e100 and e1000 |
| 02:01.05 | kensai | chealer: I got some king of freaky weird noise LOL |
| 02:01.06 | cthulfuego | helix: sussudio was asking for dcc !lists |
| 02:01.10 | sussudio | helix: second one today |
| 02:01.11 | kensai | kind* |
| 02:01.11 | zbowling | asg: LMAO |
| 02:01.13 | olmo | there's also one with mii |
| 02:01.15 | relex | hello... does anyone know of any packages for debian (or any programs in general) that can convert avi to .VOB |
| 02:01.19 | cthulfuego | helix: He wants a warezed badger |
| 02:01.20 | rdancer | citral: find -print0 | xargs -0 |
| 02:01.23 | asg | citral: find .... -print0 | xargs -0 |
| 02:01.25 | relex | and other formats to VOB if possible. |
| 02:01.32 | helix | they probably love slashdot |
| 02:01.40 | kensai | chealer: is that OK? |
| 02:01.44 | chealer | kensai: so your oss compatibility should be working according to directhex...hum... |
| 02:01.50 | asg | olmo: then get out of modconf (since the module is loaded) and configure the interface that uses the module 'e100' |
| 02:01.59 | cthulfuego | relex: transcode; check google for tutorials on video dvd creation on Linux |
| 02:02.00 | citral | ah yes, cool |
| 02:02.08 | relex | thank you |
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| 02:02.26 | rdancer | citral: you should use this always on untrusted filenames (e.g., wgeted). |
| 02:02.31 | olmo | assuming you mean by configure to go into the /etc/network/interfaces then add a eth1 much like the one i already have there correct? |
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| 02:02.40 | asg | olmo: yes |
| 02:02.48 | olmo | ah thanks |
| 02:02.52 | osiris | Hi can somebody help me to be able to play dvds please? i have a dvd write and every program i try to play dvds in says couldnt open device? |
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| 02:03.05 | olmo | sorry for the bother i have a couple of references but people seem to be the fastest way to the solution |
| 02:03.10 | citral | rdancer: that's exactly the case |
| 02:03.12 | chealer | kensai: so alsa-oss is something different. if you have oss compatibility lsmod should mention snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss |
| 02:03.16 | asg | olmo: no worries |
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| 02:04.43 | kensai | chealer I just installed the file alsa-oss |
| 02:04.47 | kensai | Ill try now |
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| 02:05.18 | chealer | kensai: sorry I talked about it by error, directhex said it was something different than oss compatibility |
| 02:05.32 | docgnome | Ok, So... when I follow that tutorial I was directed to it tells me to "make-kpkg blah blah blah" and when I do, it responds with "bash: make-kpkg: command not found" Am i missing something or am I just being unreasonably dense. |
| 02:05.48 | chealer | so I think you can consider your OSS compatibility is working if you have snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss in lsmod |
| 02:05.59 | dondelelcaro | docgnome: install kernel-package, build-essential, and fakeroot |
| 02:06.10 | mathieu | docgnome, apt-get install kernel-package |
| 02:06.18 | docgnome | Right. Thanks. |
| 02:06.23 | chealer | kensai: but you'll need to google for the problem you actually have I guess :/ |
| 02:06.53 | kensai | chealer: Ok then I'll google thanks any ways |
| 02:07.15 | chealer | kensai: or RTFM if you didn't already :) |
| 02:07.58 | kensai | RTFM? |
| 02:08.18 | pv2b | Read The Manual. |
| 02:08.28 | pv2b | (the F is silent.) |
| 02:08.33 | asg | pv2b: no it isn't |
| 02:08.46 | kensai | LOL |
| 02:08.51 | rdancer | pv2b: lol |
| 02:09.47 | kensai | chealer: Thanks I'll google RTFM doom 3 LOL |
| 02:11.28 | chealer | kensai: ie http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/ maybe |
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| 02:12.21 | kensai | chealer: Thanks |
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| 02:15.36 | zakame | hi all |
| 02:15.40 | Nyle | mm, popcorn |
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| 02:16.28 | rich_ | Nyle merry maids and popcorn to you too :) |
| 02:16.44 | Nyle | hey, is there a software similar to Microsoft Publisher, my younger brother has to do an assignment for school and he needs to print out a broshure of some kind. |
| 02:16.57 | asg | Nyle: scribus |
| 02:17.09 | Nyle | is that also a package name |
| 02:17.23 | Nyle | lemme see |
| 02:17.31 | asg | Nyle: yes at least in sid (probably sarge too) |
| 02:18.02 | zbowling | Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) Debian GNU/Linux PHP/5.0.2 mod_perl/1.26 |
| 02:18.03 | docgnome | Well... now when i try to run make-kpkg it says "String found where operator expected at -e line 1, near "k7""" as well as a few other errors... none of which i understand. |
| 02:18.04 | asg | Nyle: an older version exists in woody |
| 02:18.15 | Nyle | that program would print out the broshure with the lines, telling you where to fold? That is the function he is looking for |
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| 02:18.28 | zbowling | heh debian woody running PHP5 |
| 02:18.33 | Nyle | i run sarge,and i'll install it, thanks |
| 02:18.34 | asg | Nyle: maybe, it is apparently a pretty full featured program |
| 02:18.36 | dondelelcaro | Nyle: you don't need the lines. |
| 02:18.39 | asg | zbowling: backports are for sucks |
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| 02:18.52 | zbowling | heh.. i need to for php5 |
| 02:19.06 | asg | zbowling: no, you probably don't |
| 02:19.08 | zbowling | i don't backport... i source install |
| 02:19.42 | zbowling | i need php5 xsl support and the added soap support |
| 02:19.50 | Nyle | dondelelcaro, I don't know, I was just telling you what my little brother told me. I was like dude, I don't buy ms publisher, and we don't have it, he said, then he can't do his homework. I said, so basically you are telling me that you teachers say if you don't have ms publisher you can't get your work done? |
| 02:20.22 | Nyle | oh, to be 14 again... |
| 02:21.24 | Ronin | no thanks Nyle once was enough |
| 02:21.35 | asg | Nyle: the beer was crappier and harder to get. |
| 02:21.45 | Nyle | Ronin, was it that bad ;) |
| 02:22.41 | chealer | Nyle dude: I hate teachers saying that too :) |
| 02:22.41 | zbowling | reno 911 is funny |
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| 02:23.02 | chealer | I heard scribud was quite full-featured too |
| 02:23.04 | Nyle | chealer, I'm afraid I don't understand |
| 02:23.33 | osiris | can anybody help me set my system up for dvd play back |
| 02:23.43 | zbowling | i hate teachers that require you bring in a power point presentation.. i'm like.. why don't i just make a fully interactive dvd movie on my linux box and they are like well i take these home and i don't have a dvd player |
| 02:23.44 | chealer | Nyle: teachers saying use MS *crap* and do that |
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| 02:23.48 | Nyle | osiris, what dvd hardware do you have? |
| 02:23.59 | asg | osiris: /msg dpkg dvd (might give you some pointers on where to start) |
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| 02:24.32 | Nyle | chealer, they MAKE you dependent on MS products, or try to at least. |
| 02:24.36 | asg | chealer: mrs. asg doesn't ;) |
| 02:24.41 | zbowling | i brought a pdf document to school that i exported from open office |
| 02:25.06 | Pakal | what is the best client for e-donkey? |
| 02:25.11 | Nyle | asg, you are a teacher? |
| 02:25.16 | asg | Nyle: my wife is |
| 02:25.16 | osiris | Nyle i have a dvd write its an emprex |
| 02:25.23 | osiris | writer* |
| 02:25.29 | asg | Pakal: apt-cache search e donkey |
| 02:25.33 | olmo | simple q' for a simple ans' what's the package for firefox? |
| 02:25.45 | chealer | mozilla-firefox |
| 02:25.46 | Nyle | olmo, apt-get install mozilla-firefox |
| 02:25.50 | asg | Pakal: try them all and decide for yourself |
| 02:25.58 | olmo | figures heh |
| 02:25.59 | olmo | thanks |
| 02:26.13 | Nyle | olmo, an easy way to search for packages is to use the command, apt-cache search <package name keyword here> |
| 02:26.27 | rich_ | I was in a class once where we worked in teams, on a project, for the whole class, and my job was to keep coffee on the table and draw documentation and someone gave me office, in the origional cd. When I tried to give it back after the class was over he said "keep it" |
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| 02:27.28 | asg | rich_: and office helps keep coffee on the table? |
| 02:27.33 | Nyle | olmo, try and read the apt man pages for a better understand of the package management tool, it makes life a little less complicated |
| 02:27.46 | rich_ | asg it was to draw a flow chart |
| 02:28.08 | asg | olmo: for a gentle (but somewhat outdated intro to debian) try www.oreilly.com/openbook |
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| 02:28.14 | chealer | olmo: or apt-get install synaptic |
| 02:28.16 | olmo | thanks |
| 02:28.42 | olmo | synaptic is already installed |
| 02:29.07 | Nyle | synaptic is alright, I still prefer command line though, much faster |
| 02:29.10 | Nyle | for me at least |
| 02:29.17 | chealer | olmo: just search with ctrl-f then... |
| 02:29.25 | Nyle | plus apt is just frikkin awesome |
| 02:29.38 | Nyle | next best thing to portage |
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| 02:30.03 | dondelelcaro | hahahaha |
| 02:30.07 | nvs | Nyle: blasphemy! ;-) |
| 02:30.10 | Nyle | lol |
| 02:30.19 | asg | dondelelcaro: I was wondering who was going to flinch first |
| 02:30.28 | Nyle | imho, mind you :) |
| 02:30.31 | rich_ | Nyle yea but apt has been around longer than the others and it shows in the sophistication of the dependancy system |
| 02:30.45 | Nyle | rich_, indeed it does |
| 02:31.01 | dondelelcaro | dependency system is actually dpkg. Apt does the dependency resolution... which is it's main advantage. |
| 02:31.15 | Nyle | nvs, whats going on dude |
| 02:31.17 | dondelelcaro | the former being much, much easier than the latter. |
| 02:31.32 | nvs | Nyle: I'm watching someone getting fired! ;-) |
| 02:31.39 | Nyle | hahahahaha |
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| 02:31.46 | Nyle | you actually watch that show |
| 02:31.57 | nvs | Nyle: I LOVE the infighting |
| 02:32.08 | Ronin | Nyle: that bad being 14? no would i want to do it again? no damn way |
| 02:32.14 | rich_ | yea people from other dists complain about how they cant find dependancies and have to install them themselves, but because apt is so well polised, and because the quality control is so good and you cant get a package unless you can get its dependancies, debian users dont have that problem |
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| 02:32.51 | Nyle | Ronin, if I could be 14 again with all the knowledge I have now, man, that would be so sweet, I could be a billionair |
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| 02:33.11 | arnon | hi, how can I make debian execute dhclient automatically everytime I boot up ? |
| 02:33.33 | stew | arnon: /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 02:33.40 | asg | Nyle: Billionaires, however, do know how to use ispell(1) |
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| 02:33.50 | Nyle | then I would buy MS from gates, and release the source code and integrate the stupidly user friendliness of windows, with the stability and functionality of linux |
| 02:33.52 | Nyle | yeh yeh yeh |
| 02:33.56 | Nyle | thats what I want |
| 02:34.26 | arnon | thx stew |
| 02:34.35 | asg | Nyle: or use OS/X |
| 02:34.38 | rich_ | fvwm is superior to windows in simplicity of design and versatility. |
| 02:34.40 | debian | under what condition would the name resolve failed while resolv.conf was made correctly? |
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| 02:34.48 | Nyle | dondelelcaro, not really man, considering I am an MCSE and I suck, which is why I moved to linux |
| 02:34.48 | asg | rich_: s/fvwm/ion/ |
| 02:35.06 | rdancer | debian: tcpdump will tel you? |
| 02:35.08 | rich_ | asg yea probably everything but gnome and possibly kde :) |
| 02:35.09 | asg | debian: your /etc/nsswitch.conf is misconfigured |
| 02:35.23 | asg | rich_: too heavy for me |
| 02:35.29 | debian | rdancer, asg: let me look in this direction thanks. |
| 02:35.52 | SDFH_Linux | how do you change the font size during start up in debian |
| 02:35.59 | debian | Nyle: it was not you. MCSE sucks by default, nothing personal. |
| 02:36.08 | asg | SDFH_Linux: vga=791 (an often used choice) |
| 02:36.09 | citral | SDFH_Linux: edit /etc/console-tools/config |
| 02:36.17 | rdancer | asg: does one really have to alter /etc/nsswitch.conf by hand, unless altered previously? |
| 02:36.18 | Nyle | oh, if I have given that impression, I must clearify that I do not fit the descripton of a troll |
| 02:36.41 | Nyle | debian, when I figured that out, I moved to linux and gave up on ms |
| 02:36.42 | asg | rdancer: no, but I don't know what is being done to cause the issue since the question was vague |
| 02:36.44 | citral | SDFH_Linux: the fonts are in /usr/share/consolefonts/ |
| 02:37.34 | rdancer | asg: heh, the most hardcore reply, just besides ``the kernel networking code got fucked up'', heh 8)) |
| 02:37.36 | citral | SDFH_Linux: you can try to load some with consolechars -f /usr/share/consolefonts/foo and put the one you like in /etc/console-tools/config |
| 02:37.47 | asg | rdancer: or 'I fooled with /etc/hosts but forgot' |
| 02:37.58 | rich_ | Windows is reletively new, I hope someday it will evolve into something usefull. |
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| 02:38.12 | asg | rich_: it's useful as a game machine |
| 02:38.24 | SDFH_Linux | k |
| 02:38.37 | Nyle | asg, I second that, I only keep xp dual boot because of Morrowind and Diablo II |
| 02:38.42 | SDFH_Linux | is there a way to put say a tux or debian logo during boot |
| 02:38.59 | rdancer | SDFH_Linux: apt-cache search logo? |
| 02:39.15 | SDFH_Linux | during boot |
| 02:39.16 | Nyle | asg, I have only one computer :( |
| 02:39.17 | trucido | I need to be able to bind things that I run in inetd to a particular internal IP address only. I understand that the easiest way to do this is by using xinetd instead. Is there a better way to accomplish this? |
| 02:39.19 | rdancer | dualboot sux <= rebooting sux |
| 02:39.19 | SDFH_Linux | botting |
| 02:39.25 | SDFH_Linux | booting |
| 02:39.31 | rdancer | SDFH_Linux: latter |
| 02:39.31 | citral | !bootsplash |
| 02:39.31 | dpkg | from memory, bootsplash is http://www.bootsplash.org/ && http://www.bootsplash.de (Themes and updates) see also gensplash |
| 02:39.32 | Nyle | hey, wanna donate one to the cause? :D |
| 02:39.35 | asg | Nyle: ah well, that's fine then |
| 02:39.37 | bob2 | trucido: netkit-inetd does not support that |
| 02:39.49 | debian | asg: so, that's nothing to do with nsswitch.conf? |
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| 02:39.56 | citral | or the sound of a giant shoe on a lake |
| 02:39.57 | debian | asg: I thought you're giving me advise here. |
| 02:39.58 | trucido | bob2: so, xinetd is the way to make it happen? |
| 02:40.08 | bob2 | trucido: if you insist on inetd at all, yes |
| 02:40.11 | SDFH_Linux | asg where i put that command for fonts |
| 02:40.14 | asg | debian: maybe maybe not. What are you running that doesn't appear to be using /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 02:40.19 | Nyle | bob2, long time no see, how are you? |
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| 02:40.26 | debian | asg: ping |
| 02:40.35 | rich_ | Ive never been able to use windows but Ive noticed it includes unix commands one by one. After what, 20 years or so, they have like six or seven, ftp, telnet, etc. I guess that means just two or three hundred years and it will have a decent command set. |
| 02:40.45 | rdancer | debian: it can be *anything*, man 5 nsswitch.conf if you don't believe asg |
| 02:40.57 | trucido | bob2: i looked at the xinetd package and it does not conflict with inetd. I'm unsure of the steps I need to take to ensure this transition goes smoothly. Any help you can offer? |
| 02:40.58 | asg | debian: oh, if you wait a minute and a half, does it start working? |
| 02:41.05 | Nyle | I installed scribus, where is it, I can't find it |
| 02:41.11 | Nyle | argh |
| 02:41.15 | asg | Nyle: dpkg -L scribus | grep bin |
| 02:41.26 | rdancer | asg, debian: but probably it's /etc/hosts, 'cause that's the only thing that doesn't use /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 02:41.29 | debian | rdancer: well, as you said, I don't know what in nsswitch.conf would case the problem after looking at it and compares it with the other server. |
| 02:41.30 | bob2 | trucido: don't use either |
| 02:41.33 | Nyle | hey thanks |
| 02:41.37 | debian | asg: it's been days since it doesn't work. :) |
| 02:41.37 | bob2 | trucido: if you want to, just remove inetd |
| 02:41.50 | asg | debian: so it did work fine and then suddenly *poof*? |
| 02:41.58 | rdancer | debian: tcpdump ? |
| 02:42.02 | debian | asg: never ever work. |
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| 02:42.22 | debian | rdancer: since it's a production server the dump are relatively messy, what do I look? |
| 02:42.34 | debian | asg: I mean the name resolve thingy |
| 02:42.41 | asg | debian: well, for shits and giggles (as well as narrowing the problem space), try ping www.yahoo.com (and wait at least 2 minutes) |
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| 02:42.47 | trucido | bob2: I run bitlebbe and imapS in inetd, i want both on internal IP only, but they are very low use. Want to get them from binding to * |
| 02:43.06 | debian | asg: it returns immediately that the name doesn't resolve |
| 02:43.07 | asg | debian: also, be sure that 'ping 166.82.1.5' works |
| 02:43.37 | rdancer | debian: tcpdump -i eth0 port 53 |
| 02:43.38 | debian | asg: aye it works. |
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| 02:43.53 | asg | debian: and what do you have in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 02:43.58 | swatikiss | it seems that when i install the 2.6 kernel on my 2.4 box things get really messy with X and other settings - is there a way around this ? |
| 02:44.03 | synzz | anyone got any tips on installing nvidia X drivers under debian sarge? |
| 02:44.18 | rdancer | !nvidia |
| 02:44.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia is To learn how to install nvidia drivers on your Debian system see 'nvidia-howto' or maybe 'nvidia debs'. That should explain all you need to know. http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 02:44.42 | synzz | rdancer, danke :-) |
| 02:44.43 | trucido | bob2: Do you think I need to remove inetd before installing xinetd? |
| 02:44.45 | debian | rdancer: the bind works, so that bothers me. (tried it with nslookup www.yahoo.com <bind server>) |
| 02:44.55 | bob2 | trucido: if they don't conflict, no |
| 02:44.55 | rdancer | synzz: bitte |
| 02:44.57 | bob2 | synzz: don't do it |
| 02:45.00 | debian | asg: first line search localdomain second line the nameserver |
| 02:45.14 | synzz | bob2, eh? |
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| 02:45.24 | trucido | bob2: thanks for the help bob2, going to try. |
| 02:45.42 | asg | debian: and when you say it immediately returns, what error do you get? |
| 02:45.49 | osiris | can anyone tell me how to make enlightenment appear in my sessions menu? i cant seem to run it at all? |
| 02:45.56 | debian | asg: unknown host |
| 02:45.59 | Nyle | ok, good, scribus does the job, thanks, be back soon |
| 02:46.01 | dondelelcaro | osiris: just change your .xsession |
| 02:46.04 | bob2 | osiris: echo enlightenment >> ~/.xsession |
| 02:46.12 | bob2 | osiris: choose "Debian session" from gdm or use xdm |
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| 02:46.30 | osiris | echo enlightenment >> ~/.xsession |
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| 02:47.06 | asg | debian: if you 'telnet ns.vnet.net 53' do you get "Escape character is '^]'." |
| 02:47.31 | trogger | tell me, oh knowledgable debian geeks - what currency would most shops at Frankfurt Aiport accept? deustchmarks, euros, other? |
| 02:47.45 | trogger | (just a touch OT, but never mind) |
| 02:47.54 | bob2 | isn't germany on the euro now? |
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| 02:48.06 | asg | debian: s/ns.vnet.net/166.82.1.3/ |
| 02:48.11 | dondelelcaro | bob2: should be. |
| 02:48.14 | swatikiss | i am having trouble getting sound to work on my laptop - should i install the 2.4 kernel or 2.6 kernel to fix this ( i have the default bf24 debian kernel now and am having problems getting alsa to work properly) |
| 02:48.26 | debian | asg: aye I tried the ip, it returns the message you said |
| 02:48.32 | bob2 | singapore airport took pounds, singapore dollars and au dollars, iirc |
| 02:48.37 | asg | debian: so, no tcp firewall issue then |
| 02:48.54 | trogger | bob2: heh, that would be nice |
| 02:48.54 | stew | swatikiss: you are trying to get alsa working on bf24? |
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| 02:49.04 | swatikiss | stew yeh |
| 02:49.05 | stew | swatikiss: /msg dpkg real kernel |
| 02:49.18 | sunvient | Are any of you familair with using Netgear wireless adapters (i.e. MA111) that connect through the USB with Debian? I've tried with Fedora and nothing but hell so I'm considering trying Debian. Any experiences? |
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| 02:49.32 | bob2 | sunvient: they semi-suck |
| 02:49.55 | sunvient | yeah, so far linux is a pain in the ass to use with USB wireless adapters |
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| 02:49.59 | asg | debian: I'd follow rdancer's advice and use tcpdump to monitor what packets are traveling on the wire. Also, 'strace -o /tmp/trace ping www.yahoo.com' might provide illumination. |
| 02:50.01 | stew | sunvient: you might try asking in #wireless |
| 02:50.03 | debian | asg: the other identical server doesn't has this problem. |
| 02:50.07 | bob2 | sunvient: no, the chip itself |
| 02:50.15 | bob2 | sunvient: but mine works most of the time |
| 02:50.22 | bob2 | sunvient: and it beats no wireless (bloody broadcom) |
| 02:50.29 | debian | asg: you're right, let me try.... |
| 02:50.43 | swatikiss | stew yes, i know... that is why i want to upgrade my kernel... but the 2.4-k6 kernel wont boot up properly on my laptop.... and when i tried 2.6 it was was really messy and left me with things to fix (and my NIC stopped working) |
| 02:50.44 | bob2 | sunvient: just get the latest linux-wlan-ng tarball from linux-wlan.org, build, install, read the end of the README where it talks about usb devices |
| 02:50.53 | bob2 | sunvient: you can't use ad-hoc mode, sadly, but kismet works |
| 02:51.03 | kensai | how can I set up a printer that is in another PC with windows in my network? I am alredy seen that pc and it shared docs but not the printer |
| 02:51.05 | sunvient | oh ok, thanks. I'll give that a try |
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| 02:51.10 | stew | swatikiss: why wouldn't the 2.4-k6 kernel boot? |
| 02:51.39 | swatikiss | it gave me errors about "no irq known for interrupt pin A" ( i think this is for my pcmcia cards |
| 02:52.20 | stew | swatikiss: did you try booting with pci=biosirq or one of the similar kernel params? (just guessing) |
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| 02:52.31 | stew | swatikiss: what nic did you have trouble with in 2.6? |
| 02:52.49 | trogger | how many places in the UK accept euros? |
| 02:52.57 | stew | 42 |
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| 02:53.02 | swatikiss | stew: i added that to lilo (append pci=biosirq) or whatev |
| 02:53.54 | swatikiss | stew it is a linksys pcmcia100v2 (think thats what its called anyways) |
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| 02:54.29 | SDFH_Linux | how do you change those start up fonts again plz |
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| 02:55.10 | SDFH_Linux | fonts in debian during boot up |
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| 02:58.12 | debian | asg, rdancer: tcpdump returns nothing when ping, while it does returns relevent information when do nslookup |
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| 02:58.35 | asg | debian: what debian are you running? |
| 02:58.37 | debian | asg: while with ping, I compare both server, one work one doesn't |
| 02:59.02 | debian | asg: one sarge one stable....the stable one works |
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| 02:59.14 | alnr | hello. I have a soundblaster live 24 model sb0410, I get an error Starting ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message 'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'. Is this card unsupported ? |
| 02:59.15 | asg | debian: so they aren't identical |
| 02:59.49 | asg | debian: does 'md5sum /bin/ping' -> e77027680b54e5714825dcef378b04ab /bin/ping |
| 02:59.49 | debian | asg: hmm, sorry, I'm referring to their related part |
| 02:59.58 | nvz | alnr: run alsa-config |
| 03:00.12 | debian | asg: now you scare me. :) |
| 03:00.16 | debian | asg: hold on |
| 03:00.28 | SDFH_Linux | how change start up fonts in debian? |
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| 03:00.40 | asg | SDFH_Linux: which fonts, what are you trying to do? |
| 03:00.40 | bob2 | "start up fonts"? |
| 03:00.42 | bob2 | the console font? |
| 03:00.44 | bob2 | why bother? |
| 03:00.47 | SDFH_Linux | yea |
| 03:00.47 | alnr | nvz, i dont have that command |
| 03:00.52 | SDFH_Linux | they are to big |
| 03:00.56 | SDFH_Linux | i need to change them |
| 03:01.01 | SDFH_Linux | how do i do it |
| 03:01.03 | mais | i got a problem with my d-link nic interface |
| 03:01.06 | SDFH_Linux | i can see most of the words |
| 03:01.08 | bob2 | SDFH_Linux: why? |
| 03:01.14 | bob2 | mais: oh, can we guess what your problem is? |
| 03:01.18 | SDFH_Linux | new monitor |
| 03:01.23 | SDFH_Linux | and and i cant see them |
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| 03:01.57 | SDFH_Linux | can someone help me please |
| 03:02.02 | mais | bob2 my cd live reconaigze my eth, but not my debian |
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| 03:02.05 | bob2 | SDFH_Linux: you need to be more annoting |
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| 03:02.25 | bob2 | SDFH_Linux: does X start? |
| 03:02.33 | SDFH_Linux | of course bob2 |
| 03:02.44 | Orlino | anyone know/using a similar tool to iptraf? |
| 03:02.50 | bob2 | iptraf is cool |
| 03:02.54 | bob2 | what doesn't it do for you? |
| 03:02.59 | sswatikis | stew do you know what module is for my NIC in 2.6 ? |
| 03:03.09 | SDFH_Linux | i just cant see most of the words |
| 03:03.09 | asg | Orlino: ntop is nifty as well |
| 03:03.11 | bob2 | mais: what module does it use? |
| 03:03.13 | SDFH_Linux | i need them a bit smaller |
| 03:03.16 | Orlino | bob2: I can't navigate menues remotely |
| 03:03.22 | mais | via-rhine bob2 |
| 03:03.25 | Orlino | asg: have ntop |
| 03:03.25 | bob2 | Orlino: iptrad -d eth0 |
| 03:03.32 | bob2 | mais: and loading it on Debian doesn't work either? |
| 03:03.42 | bob2 | SDFH_Linux: you need to recompile your kernel for that, afaik |
| 03:03.48 | SDFH_Linux | dang |
| 03:03.54 | SDFH_Linux | k |
| 03:04.01 | bob2 | how much do you care? |
| 03:04.13 | Orlino | bob2: what is -d? |
| 03:04.36 | mais | not bob2, i had installed with bf24, and i encounter the module, pero this wrangler says to me that dosnt encounter my interface |
| 03:04.54 | bob2 | Orlino: 13:02:55 bob2 | what doesn't it do for you? |
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| 03:05.23 | NuBus | SDFH_Linux: do you specifically need to change the font itself, or would a resolution change for the initial console to make the same font smaller work the same for you? |
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| 03:06.42 | mais | i had edited my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:06.52 | sswatikis | where do i add the "pci=biosirq" setting for the kernel boot ? !? |
| 03:07.10 | asg | sswatikis: boot: Linux pci=biosirq |
| 03:07.28 | sswatikis | asg where do i put that though ? |
| 03:07.33 | asg | sswatikis: at the LILO prompt (if you use grub, just edit your kernel line and append to the end.) |
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| 03:07.50 | asg | sswatikis: permanently? /etc/lilo.conf or /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 03:08.19 | SDFH_Linux | resolution change is fine NUbus |
| 03:08.23 | SDFH_Linux | how i do that |
| 03:08.37 | sswatikis | asg crap, i put an append pci=biosirq in my liloconf but that didnt fix my booting problem in the 2.4 kernel image |
| 03:09.07 | asg | sswatikis: hmmmm |
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| 03:09.29 | SDFH_Linux | nubus? |
| 03:09.31 | sswatikis | asg all i am really tring to do is to be able to have sound and a stable system |
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| 03:09.39 | sswatikis | right now i only have a stable system :P |
| 03:09.40 | asg | sswatikis: try passing it manually at boottime to see if it works at all. |
| 03:09.42 | Agrajag- | asg: i just install ntop to give it a go, but i get "**FATAL_ERROR** ....open of /var/lib/ntop/prefsCache.db failed: File open error" - that file exists, and user/group is ntop. i ran ntop with sudo, so i dont know what the problem is? |
| 03:09.50 | chealer | *WUHU* I got that apache core dump I was looking for, thanks to all those that tried to help me |
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| 03:10.12 | sswatikis | asg how do i do that - type it in ? |
| 03:10.28 | asg | Agrajag-: what debian? did you read /usr/share/doc/ntop/README.Debian (for particulars you might need to know about.) |
| 03:10.38 | sswatikis | asg i just dont know why i cant get sound witht this bf24 kernel ... |
| 03:10.41 | Agrajag- | asg: testing, i'll read that now |
| 03:10.59 | NuBus | SDFH_Linux: I don't know how to do it myself, but it someone else may - just suggesting it as something to ask for different to just font changing. |
| 03:11.00 | asg | sswatikis: oh, well bf24 is the install kernel and doesn't support a lot of non-essential hardware |
| 03:11.10 | SDFH_Linux | ah ok |
| 03:11.15 | asg | sswatikis: apt-get install kernel-image (pick a kernel that suits your arch and install it.) |
| 03:11.16 | dli | I have ENV "XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority", couldn't find where to comment out this |
| 03:11.21 | SDFH_Linux | k how i change the start up resoultion in debian |
| 03:11.43 | SDFH_Linux | thanks nubus for suggestion |
| 03:11.44 | dli | SDFH_Linux, in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 03:11.56 | SDFH_Linux | k in there what i change |
| 03:12.13 | SDFH_Linux | my lcd is fine resoultion its just during start up everything is huge |
| 03:12.14 | mert | SDFH_Linux: I think you wanna look at the Framebuffer HOWTO |
| 03:12.18 | asg | SDFH_Linux: you're problem isn't related to X, disregard what dli said |
| 03:12.31 | SDFH_Linux | ok where i go for that |
| 03:12.31 | SDFH_Linux | i read up |
| 03:12.42 | dli | asg: sorry, thought about screen resolution |
| 03:13.00 | asg | dli: /msg dpkg vagueness (in relation to your question) |
| 03:13.09 | Agrajag- | asg: ok, i tried running it with -A to set an admin password, that worked. but i still get that same error. am i mean to start it with some options? im just doing "sudo ntop" |
| 03:13.09 | chealer | Agrajag-: ntop is your web server? (not apache?) |
| 03:13.26 | Agrajag- | chealer: eh? ntop as in a network monitoring tool |
| 03:13.27 | sswatikis | asg that is what i am trying to do but the 2.4 kernel image keeps freezing on boot |
| 03:13.33 | asg | Agrajag-: try just 'su'ing to root and running it (for a start) |
| 03:13.47 | Agrajag- | same problem |
| 03:13.56 | mert | SDFH_Linux: perhaps just to /usr/share/doc/HOWTO or some such, but you can go to http://www.tldp.org/tldp-redirect.php?url=/ |
| 03:14.04 | asg | sswatikis: the bf24 kernel works but a real kernel-image doesn't? |
| 03:14.17 | chealer | Agrajag-: doh, my brain had a buggy bit |
| 03:14.19 | dli | how do I undefine an ENV in bash ? |
| 03:14.20 | SDFH_Linux | k thanjks mert |
| 03:14.21 | asg | Agrajag-: well, check the bts to see if this is a known problem (/msg dpkg bts) |
| 03:14.31 | dondelelcaro | dli: with unset |
| 03:14.31 | SDFH_Linux | another question good idea to use autofs? |
| 03:14.35 | SDFH_Linux | or no |
| 03:14.37 | Agrajag- | asg: ok |
| 03:14.42 | asg | dli: export ENV= |
| 03:15.07 | dli | dondelelcaro, thanks, I couldn't find where the XAUTHORITY is defined :( just unset it now |
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| 03:16.12 | mais | and so |
| 03:16.22 | mais | where is bbo2 |
| 03:16.27 | sswatikis | asg yes, i can use the bf24 kernel just fine -- but i am having trouble booting up in the real kernel |
| 03:16.30 | asg | dli: or 'unset ENV' |
| 03:16.48 | asg | sswatikis: did you pick one comensurate with your machine architecture? |
| 03:17.05 | asg | mais: s/bbo2/bob2/ |
| 03:17.19 | Agrajag- | ags: can't find that particualar problem |
| 03:17.22 | bob2 | mais: ? |
| 03:17.28 | dli | asg: thanks, I'm using "unset XAUTHORITY" in my .bashrc, but ssh -X still got problems, I picked a wrong point :( |
| 03:17.42 | bob2 | dli: don't fuck with your environment |
| 03:17.45 | bob2 | ssh does it for you |
| 03:17.47 | asg | Agrajag-: hmmm odd |
| 03:18.06 | dli | bob2: "ssh -X" stopped working for me :( wondering why |
| 03:18.07 | sswatikis | asg well, i have a k6-2 and i am trying to use the k6 kernel image.... |
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| 03:18.15 | asg | Agrajag-: did you just 'apt-get install ntop' ? |
| 03:18.17 | bob2 | dli: install xbase-clients on the other end |
| 03:18.32 | Agrajag- | asg: yeah. i just started it now with "ntop -u ntop" and it's working |
| 03:18.38 | asg | Agrajag-: ah |
| 03:18.41 | dli | bob2: no, the other end is debian, and works for other box, problem at the x.org side |
| 03:18.52 | asg | sswatikis: at which point does it fail? what error? |
| 03:19.02 | bob2 | dli: you can do X forwarding from the remtoe box if you ssh from another machine? |
| 03:19.42 | dli | bob2: yeah, if I do ssh from other boxes, X works perfectly |
| 03:20.09 | dli | bob2: but not from a box running x.org :( X forwarding expires in minute then |
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| 03:20.37 | dli | X Error of failed request: BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter) |
| 03:20.45 | bob2 | dli: I'm running x.org on my local machine and X-forwarding works |
| 03:20.59 | dmb062082 | what would be the best media player? I think I am liking xmms |
| 03:21.06 | dli | bob2: great, rescue me :( |
| 03:21.19 | asg | dmb062082: it depends on the media |
| 03:21.28 | dmb062082 | all around |
| 03:21.34 | bob2 | dmb062082:all "media players" suck. |
| 03:21.38 | sswatikis | asg it complains about my "no PCI known for interrupt pin A of device 00:13.0 please try using pci=biosirq".... iget a similar error for pin B / 00:13.1 ( i belive these are my pcmcia slots and when i fiddle with bios settings it gives slightly different error but still freezes |
| 03:21.46 | bob2 | use a music player for music and a video player for your pon and pirated movies |
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| 03:21.47 | dmb062082 | well some must be better.... |
| 03:21.57 | asg | dmb062082: well, the majority of stuff I view is 'ASCII' so less(1) (otherwise, mplayer works well for me) |
| 03:21.59 | dli | bob2: what's the trick, I installed x.org, then, I couldn't use X forwarding, I mean, for more than 10 minutes, I would have to exit ssh, and reconnect to get X forwarding |
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| 03:22.04 | dmb062082 | winamp needs to be ported =( great app |
| 03:22.47 | debiant | Does anyone know what kernel parameters are required for dhclient besides CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER ?? |
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| 03:22.52 | bob2 | dli: no idea |
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| 03:23.02 | bob2 | dmb062082: cplay is a great music player |
| 03:23.08 | asg | debiant: /msg dpkg dhcp kernel |
| 03:23.29 | dli | debiant: I remember there's dhcp support also, I just select them, maybe only needed for dhcpd |
| 03:23.32 | stew | yeah cplay is great |
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| 03:23.39 | dmb062082 | does is play movies in ascii? |
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| 03:23.49 | dmb062082 | err music nevermind |
| 03:23.56 | asg | !lart alejandro_ in general |
| 03:24.00 | dmb062082 | i might stick with xmms |
| 03:24.01 | debiant | I get an error back that says I don't hve CONFIG_PCKET and CONFIG_FILTER in my kernel |
| 03:24.06 | debiant | but I DEFINITELY do |
| 03:24.08 | stew | dmb062082: mplayer will play movies in ascii |
| 03:24.16 | jeanmi | hi. My GF's computer hangs while starting a service at boot time. This happens before the network is configured and thus I can't fix the problem by connecting to the machine. She is using GRUB (which I don't know), the machine is distant, no CD to boot from. How can with GRUB do something equivalent to "linux init=/bin/sh" (like with LILO) ? |
| 03:24.41 | alejandro_-aWay | sorry, it went twice... |
| 03:24.50 | asg | jeanmi: the 'service' is trying to resolve dns but can't since the network is not up. wait for 90 seconds or so and fix the boot order. |
| 03:25.01 | dli | bob2: do you have XAUTHORITY at your xclient side? |
| 03:25.22 | initech | jeanmi: have her start single user then remove the offending service so you can fix it? |
| 03:25.25 | bob2 | dli: you really don't need to fuck with your environment |
| 03:25.30 | jeanmi | asg the service is cupsys and I dont why it hangs |
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| 03:25.32 | bob2 | dli: and if it ever works, then fucking with it won't help |
| 03:25.34 | debiant | do people with debian 3 use the dhcp-client package or the dhcp3-client package? Anyone know the difference?? |
| 03:25.38 | jeanmi | initech how do I start single user with GRUB ? |
| 03:25.52 | debiant | jeanmi you add -s to your boot parameter |
| 03:25.52 | Fyronix | How do I use apt to search for packages of the "testing" variety, rather than "stable?" |
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| 03:25.56 | asg | jeanmi: it's probably broadcasting for other ipp services. |
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| 03:26.08 | asg | jeanmi: there should be an option in grub at the menu to 'e' edit a line |
| 03:26.13 | quadrata | sequethin: there you are |
| 03:26.18 | initech | jeanmi: get the prompt then "blah single", sorry i don't use it though, but something along those lines |
| 03:26.27 | asg | jeanmi: type that, append ' single' to the end, hit <ENTER>, and then 'b' to boot |
| 03:26.39 | sequethin | indeed |
| 03:26.40 | initech | jeanmi: how did cups ever get put before the network? |
| 03:26.48 | jeanmi | debiant I am in China while she is in France, I have no experience with (don't even know how the menu looks like). so I need to know the basic stuff I need to tell her (she is ot a geek at all) |
| 03:26.50 | sswatikis | asg do you have any idea ? |
| 03:26.59 | asg | initech: because debian puts shit in the wrong order |
| 03:27.03 | quadrata | jbit: so you are |
| 03:27.05 | jeanmi | initech I installed cupsys on the host last time it was up and since ..... |
| 03:27.06 | initech | asg: not here |
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| 03:27.13 | quadrata | spppf |
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| 03:27.21 | asg | sswatikis: I don't, I'm sorry. Anything on google? |
| 03:27.40 | asg | initech: with pcmcia, debian is completely broken ootb. |
| 03:27.41 | MrPoopyPants | I seem to have a problem in sarge - I can only exit X if I hit ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 03:27.45 | sswatikis | asg it just said about putting an append in lilo.conf -- which i did but with no luck |
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| 03:28.00 | sswatikis | asg perhaps i should just bite it and install 2.6 ? !? |
| 03:28.05 | asg | sswatikis: did you type '/sbin/lilo' afterward to get lilo to recognize the option? |
| 03:28.20 | jeanmi | asg so basically there should be at some point a chance to type for instance "linux single" ? |
| 03:28.26 | asg | sswatikis: installing 2.6 is an option. |
| 03:28.27 | debiant | jeanmi like asg said, you hit 'e' or something to edit the current boot line, its on the grub manpage (and the menu) , but I don't have a grub-enabled system available at the moment |
| 03:28.42 | jeanmi | asg does she need to hit a special key to get access to a prompt where to type linux single ? |
| 03:28.45 | asg | jeanmi: yes, at the GRUB menuy screen, hit <SPACE> to stop the timer. |
| 03:28.50 | sswatikis | asg i ran lilo aftwards ... it did not complain about anything .. i just assumed it was O.K. |
| 03:28.52 | MrPoopyPants | Oh there we go - there seems to be a long delay in between when I click log out and the time it actually allows me to log out is about a minute |
| 03:28.59 | quadrata | so, I was wondering, how do I format an aol cd with debian? |
| 03:29.13 | jeanmi | asg, OK then first hits SPACE, then 'e' ? |
| 03:29.15 | sswatikis | asg i wouldnt mind installing 2.6 - just that when i did everything got really messed up and my NIC stopped working |
| 03:29.15 | asg | jeanmi: then, underneath the options there should be a list of things you can do (i.e. 'e' edit) |
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| 03:29.19 | vaxen | hi |
| 03:29.22 | quadrata | ih |
| 03:29.28 | debiant | quadrata - format an aol cd?? |
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| 03:29.31 | vaxen | is there linux program that can format partition as FAT32? |
| 03:29.37 | asg | jeanmi: hit <SPACE> to stop the timer, then read. I don't remember offhand what the exact options are. |
| 03:29.43 | quadrata | debiant: yes so I can run aol on debian |
| 03:29.45 | asg | sswatikis: what nic? |
| 03:29.53 | sswatikis | quadrata i wish i knew! |
| 03:29.55 | debiant | vaxen: mkfs |
| 03:29.57 | bob2 | vaxen: mkfs -t vfat |
| 03:29.58 | asg | vaxen: fdisk should be able to do so |
| 03:30.22 | asg | s/fdisk// (me missed the question entirely) |
| 03:30.26 | debiant | quadrata I don't think aol runs on debian does it?? |
| 03:30.30 | vaxen | thanks |
| 03:30.37 | vaxen | can i specify cluster size? |
| 03:30.40 | jeanmi | asg man grub ? |
| 03:30.41 | MrPoopyPants | is there a full AOL client for linux? |
| 03:30.41 | quadrata | debiant: well it should, don't you think? |
| 03:30.51 | MrPoopyPants | my stepmom could leave windoze |
| 03:30.55 | quadrata | it should be a simple matter of formatting the cd as ext3, right? |
| 03:31.00 | MrPoopyPants | maybe it runs with wine |
| 03:31.03 | debiant | quadrata - that is something like blasepheme |
| 03:31.05 | MrPoopyPants | ? |
| 03:31.06 | vaxen | asg: fdisk only change partition id isnt it? |
| 03:31.14 | asg | jeanmi: once you get to the *default* grub screen (blue with white lettering) hit some key (arrow, space, whatever) to stop the auto timer. |
| 03:31.20 | quadrata | debian: blasephme? |
| 03:31.21 | MrPoopyPants | how hte hell do you format a cd as ext3? |
| 03:31.27 | asg | vaxen: yes, I misread what you said |
| 03:31.28 | debiant | quadrata are you talking about a cd FROM Aol?? |
| 03:31.31 | Seb | how do I tell hotplug to not do anything network-related, period ? |
| 03:31.32 | MrPoopyPants | that would be pretty sick |
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| 03:31.38 | quadrata | MrPoopyPants: don't be so negative |
| 03:31.39 | Fyronix | How do I use apt to search for packages of the "testing" variety, rather than "stable?" |
| 03:31.46 | asg | MrPoopyPants: create a ext3 iso image and burn it to cd |
| 03:31.47 | jsoft | I want to install via floppy. Which images do I need. The docs are not clear. |
| 03:31.52 | MrPoopyPants | quadrata, not negative jsut stoned |
| 03:31.55 | Seb | MrPoopyPants: CDs are to be iso9660, why would you want ext3 ? |
| 03:32.01 | asg | jeanmi: the instructions should be at the bottom of the blue box. |
| 03:32.03 | sswatikis | asg it is a linksys pcmpc100v2 NIC |
| 03:32.09 | MrPoopyPants | you know - once i set up the kernel debian runs as fast as gentoo |
| 03:32.13 | jeanmi | asg ok thanks a lot |
| 03:32.15 | jeanmi | bye |
| 03:32.18 | MrPoopyPants | Im pretty impressed |
| 03:32.23 | jsoft | gentoo is overrated imo :) |
| 03:32.23 | quadrata | yeah MrPoopyPants why would you think you could format a cd as ext3? |
| 03:32.28 | jsoft | its trying to be bsd |
| 03:32.38 | MrPoopyPants | quadrata, I dont - someone else said that |
| 03:32.39 | asg | sswatikis: hmm, not familiar with that. Someone else here might be though. |
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| 03:32.53 | MrPoopyPants | quadrata it should be a simple matter of formatting the cd as ext3, right? |
| 03:32.54 | quadrata | MrPoopyPants: who? I'll get 'em :/ |
| 03:32.55 | asg | !hug OpenBSD manpages |
| 03:33.02 | dli | bob2: I think it works after I "unset XAUTHORITY" at the x.org end |
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| 03:33.06 | Seb | asg: hell yeah :) |
| 03:33.17 | debiant | quadrata - what is it EXACTLY you are trying to do?? |
| 03:33.39 | quadrata | debiant: well, I want to run aol on debian, but my cd only works in windows |
| 03:33.44 | debiant | poopypants what kernel are you using? |
| 03:33.56 | jsoft | Anyone? What floppy bin do I need to install debian? |
| 03:33.59 | MrPoopyPants | 2.6.8 |
| 03:34.00 | quadrata | debiant: so I figured it probably needs to be formatted for linux, right? |
| 03:34.00 | jsoft | I will do a net-install. |
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| 03:34.10 | debiant | quadrata - Windows software doesn't run on Linux unless you use wine |
| 03:34.15 | bob2 | jsoft: you need to read the install guide |
| 03:34.20 | debian | asg: problem solved |
| 03:34.22 | bob2 | jsoft: for woody you need at least root.bin and boot.bin |
| 03:34.22 | jsoft | I have. Its vauge. |
| 03:34.27 | jsoft | Ok then. |
| 03:34.30 | debiant | poopypants - I thought 2.6 didn't run with debian stable? or does it? |
| 03:34.39 | MrPoopyPants | what debian stable |
| 03:34.40 | bob2 | jsoft: it's not vague, it gives exact urls |
| 03:34.44 | MrPoopyPants | Im not runnign woody |
| 03:34.51 | debiant | you running sid? |
| 03:34.52 | quadrata | debiant: what? What does drinking have to do with running windows software on linux? |
| 03:34.55 | MrPoopyPants | Im running sarge! now drop and giveme 20! |
| 03:34.57 | herbi | hi |
| 03:35.07 | bob2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:35.11 | asg | debian: and? |
| 03:35.13 | debiant | quadrata - wine is a package that allows SOME windows software to run on linux |
| 03:35.20 | MrPoopyPants | bob2, its your fautll |
| 03:35.24 | quadrata | ohohoh! |
| 03:35.25 | asg | !qotd88 |
| 03:35.25 | dpkg | < quadrata> debiant: well, I want to run aol on debian, but my cd only works in windows |
| 03:35.34 | bob2 | oh god |
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| 03:35.40 | MrPoopyPants | if you hadnt answered some questions of mine you wouldnt have gotten me interested |
| 03:35.44 | debiant | pooopypants - how did you get the 2.6 kernel to run?? |
| 03:35.46 | bob2 | hah |
| 03:36.00 | SDFH | hehe poopypants |
| 03:36.00 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, I installed a daily snapshot build of sarge |
| 03:36.02 | jsoft | Everyone seems to have hassles upgrading to the 2.6 kernels |
| 03:36.10 | bob2 | it worked flawlessly for me |
| 03:36.19 | debiant | MrPoopyPants got a link? |
| 03:36.31 | MrPoopyPants | debian hold on ill get ti for you |
| 03:36.51 | quadrata | ok, well if I can't format my aol cd for debain... |
| 03:37.05 | quadrata | does debian have any prebuilt x86->arm toolchains that support multilib for big-endian, little-endian, and softfloat? |
| 03:37.06 | rich_ | jsoft yea, and I think its because they left a few things out of the default configs. First it was a serial driver and then some ide controlers |
| 03:37.17 | bob2 | quadrata: apt-cache show toolchain-source |
| 03:37.29 | bob2 | oddly, Debian doesn't keep all n^2 possible cross-compilers in the archive |
| 03:37.32 | jsoft | linux is not really well organised is it |
| 03:37.36 | rich_ | jsoft then people try to use the debian config but dont know enough about initrd |
| 03:37.38 | debiant | quadrata the gcc toolset can do that |
| 03:37.41 | jsoft | very unsastifyingly messy. |
| 03:37.52 | bob2 | jsoft: are you a troll or just really stupid? |
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| 03:38.00 | MrPoopyPants | debiant http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/ |
| 03:38.05 | bob2 | because you're certainly really annoying |
| 03:38.08 | jsoft | Not a troll, no. Not stupid either. Just dont like messy stuff. |
| 03:38.10 | dli | rich_: I don't know initrd :( |
| 03:38.28 | debiant | poopy: you just downloaded a CD image and went with it?? |
| 03:38.33 | bob2 | jsoft: "$foo is messy" is a stupid and subjective statement |
| 03:38.42 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, yep. |
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| 03:38.47 | quadrata | ok, well here's a question, does debian allow me to use email? |
| 03:38.53 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, I used a net install |
| 03:38.55 | jsoft | bob2: lucky I did not say $foo then. |
| 03:38.56 | rich_ | dli: me either and it took a few compiles before I realised it needed to be removed. Minor inconvenience for the sake of advancement. |
| 03:39.01 | sswatikis | lol |
| 03:39.04 | bob2 | quadrata: um, of course |
| 03:39.07 | debiant | poopypants: cool - are you using dhcp?? |
| 03:39.11 | bob2 | quadrata: if you mean "aol mail", then "hahaha" |
| 03:39.20 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, no. |
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| 03:39.44 | debiant | I'm currently having problems with dhcp/woody/2.4.19 |
| 03:39.51 | toothpick | I want to make the latest gimp...so how can I make it become a .deb ...not to maintain just to get rid of easily? |
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| 03:40.07 | MrPoopyPants | sorry debiant I dont do 2.4 |
| 03:40.07 | bob2 | toothpick: you can't, just use sid or install to /usr/local/gimp |
| 03:40.23 | toothpick | bob2 is 2.2 in sid? |
| 03:40.25 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, I highly reccomend the weekly build 'o sarge |
| 03:40.29 | toothpick | I'll have to check something. |
| 03:40.30 | bob2 | !+info gimp sid |
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| 03:40.32 | dpkg | gimp: (The GNU Image Manipulation Program, stable version 2.0), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.0.6-1 (sid), Packaged size: 2912 kB, Installed size: 7600 kB |
| 03:40.32 | dli | rich_, hehe, I just disabled it from the beginning |
| 03:40.42 | bob2 | toothpick: nope |
| 03:40.57 | debiant | poopypants - tempting, but the box in question is a 366mhz trashiba laptop and kernel builds take forever |
| 03:41.19 | Gumby | any hostap users here? I am trying to get my wireless card up and running but run into an error. the following URL is results from /var/log/messages when I plug the card in. http://ultimate.kicks-ass.net/logs/hostap-error.txt |
| 03:41.26 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, you dont have to build the kernel |
| 03:41.30 | quadrata | I'll brb, I gotta get some fruitcake. Hope you guys will help me with the aol soon. |
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| 03:41.49 | debiant | poopypnats I do because I'm using a wireless USB network transciever |
| 03:41.51 | bob2 | I think he has all the fruitcake he could possibly ned. |
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| 03:41.57 | sswatikis | debiant what model - i am running a toshiba 2545xcdt |
| 03:41.59 | rich_ | dli well before that I was just re useing my old kernel config and I think it kind of forced me to re-assess my configuration which was good |
| 03:42.01 | mwilson | toothpick: Wouldn't gimp 2.2 have to exist before Debian would package it? It's not released yet, after all. |
| 03:42.10 | debiant | sswatikis toshiba 7020ct |
| 03:42.17 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, the net install is not going to be any slower or faster than normal |
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| 03:42.24 | dave__ | hi, how can i disable "backup" in emacs? |
| 03:42.25 | debiant | sswatikis are you running dhcp? |
| 03:42.26 | sswatikis | debiant coo |
| 03:42.28 | asg | !qotd88 |
| 03:42.28 | dpkg | < quadrata> debiant: well, I want to run aol on debian, but my cd only works in windows < quadrata> I'll brb, I gotta get some fruitcake. Hope you guys will help me with the aol soon. |
| 03:42.33 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, its just better developed |
| 03:42.35 | sswatikis | debiant client or server ? |
| 03:42.51 | debiant | poopypants - the install is fast, but the kernel rebuild for wireless usb drivers takes ages |
| 03:43.03 | dli | rich_: I still don't know whether I can just do "apt-get install kernel-image" :( 2.4 requires initrd by doing so. |
| 03:43.07 | debiant | sswatikis going to run it as a server, but its actually pretty usable as a desktop |
| 03:43.12 | toothpick | mwilson, makes sense...I'm just thinking unstable...would have unstable stuff. |
| 03:43.34 | bob2 | toothpick: unstable does not contain random cvs pulls |
| 03:43.38 | dave__ | hi, how can i disable "backup" in emacs? |
| 03:43.42 | rich_ | dli I dont know either, I get mine from kernel.org, and I dont use anything that needs patching |
| 03:43.44 | debiant | sli 2.4 does NOT require initrd |
| 03:43.45 | bob2 | dave__: #emacs |
| 03:43.54 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, why would it be any longer thna a 2.4 kernel I noticed significant performance increase |
| 03:44.02 | mwilson | toothpick: Where is that written? |
| 03:44.05 | eventide | I'm using apt with xargs: "some commands | xargs apt-get install", and it wants me to type "Yes, do as I say!" (yes, I really want to do it), but I cannot, and specifying -y and --force-yes don't succeed either. apt just quits. |
| 03:44.06 | jbit | pressing alt-f4 seems to put me onto my forth virtual desktop |
| 03:44.09 | dli | rich_, I use openmosix patch, which requires kernel.org |
| 03:44.11 | dave__ | bob2:i don't understand |
| 03:44.21 | bob2 | dave__: "that's an emacs question, try in #emacs" |
| 03:44.26 | debiant | mrpoopypants - it wont be longer, but I've already spent #%@%@#$@ hours trying to get the 2.4 to work with wireless usb/dhcp |
| 03:44.32 | bob2 | eventide: don't do that |
| 03:44.39 | dave__ | o |
| 03:44.39 | bob2 | eventide: for fuck's sake |
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| 03:45.06 | dli | debian, why not 2.6 ? even a dummy as myself can get wireless pc-card here |
| 03:45.06 | toothpick | mwilson...I guess I ws dreaming ;) |
| 03:45.10 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, debiant why not just install sarge and have it work without hour of labor on an old ass kernel? |
| 03:45.18 | bob2 | toothpick: it might be in experimental |
| 03:45.27 | bob2 | toothpick: which can contain "random crap from cvs" |
| 03:45.34 | debiant | poopypants - tempting, but I'll still have to recompile the damn usb wireless drivers into the kernel |
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| 03:46.23 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, why not check and see , it may be autodetected by hotplug and installed when you install without that |
| 03:46.33 | MrPoopyPants | 2.6 is great |
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| 03:46.43 | vegetax__ | exit |
| 03:46.50 | debiant | mrpoopypants check /lib/modules/kernel/drivers/usb and see if there are any drivers for att76c503 |
| 03:46.58 | MrPoopyPants | ok |
| 03:47.33 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, you know I have a custom kernel and i didnt put that in... |
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| 03:47.52 | debiant | poopypants what? |
| 03:48.00 | MrPoopyPants | you gotta check the kernel headers .config file for your build |
| 03:48.01 | tecnotronic | i installed lilo in the root sector of my partition hdb5 |
| 03:48.10 | bob2 | eventide: out of morbid curiosity, what are you trying to do? |
| 03:48.20 | bob2 | toothpick: partitions don't have mbr's (= "root sector") |
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| 03:48.27 | tecnotronic | how can i make appear the boot loader |
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| 03:48.31 | debiant | poopypants it's a 3rd party driver (or was) recently GPL'd so it may not be in the sarge release |
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| 03:48.39 | bob2 | tecnotronic: partitions don't have mbr's (= "root sector") |
| 03:48.55 | MrPoopyPants | debiant, http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/ |
| 03:48.55 | toothpick | bob2, what's the partition mbr comment regarding? |
| 03:49.00 | tecnotronic | i mean root partition |
| 03:49.00 | bob2 | tecnotronic: so your question is "How do I make an install of linux appear in my bootloader menu?"? |
| 03:49.00 | toothpick | oh ok I see |
| 03:49.04 | bob2 | toothpick: wrong person, sorry |
| 03:49.06 | toothpick | I should go to sleep. |
| 03:49.12 | tecnotronic | yep |
| 03:49.13 | asg | !be bob2 |
| 03:49.13 | dpkg | asg: I'm going to bed now, really |
| 03:49.14 | bob2 | always a good plan of action |
| 03:49.23 | bob2 | tecnotronic: which bootloader? |
| 03:49.37 | tecnotronic | lilo |
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| 03:49.54 | tecnotronic | should i make a ram disk? |
| 03:50.04 | bob2 | erm |
| 03:50.05 | bob2 | why? |
| 03:50.29 | bob2 | you add a new section to /etc/lilo.conf |
| 03:50.30 | tecnotronic | a friend |
| 03:50.38 | bob2 | copy an existing one and change the partiton and name |
| 03:51.00 | MrPoopyPants | bob2, do you have any idea what would make exiting gnome have a i minute delay |
| 03:51.03 | huhlig | ok whats people best and simplest mail server |
| 03:51.07 | MrPoopyPants | a 1 minute delay |
| 03:51.10 | bob2 | huhlig: postfix |
| 03:51.14 | huhlig | ok |
| 03:51.21 | huhlig | well postfix is dropping mail |
| 03:51.26 | tecnotronic | the big question is how do i edit lilo.conf |
| 03:51.34 | huhlig | nano /etc/lilo.conf |
| 03:51.38 | debiant | huhlig: I use SMTP |
| 03:51.44 | bob2 | huhlig: "dropping mail"? |
| 03:51.55 | huhlig | bob2, its set up and I can connect to it |
| 03:51.57 | debiant | huhlig: err, sendmail |
| 03:52.06 | bob2 | huhlig: you mean it's not accepting mail? |
| 03:52.08 | huhlig | but mail doesent get to the spool |
| 03:52.10 | bob2 | huhlig: or it's not deliverying it? |
| 03:52.14 | bob2 | huhlig: what do the logs say? |
| 03:52.16 | huhlig | bob2, neither I think |
| 03:52.29 | bob2 | huhlig: check your logs |
| 03:52.37 | huhlig | where is the postfix log |
| 03:52.38 | bob2 | do not ever ever ever complain about a MTA until you read the logs |
| 03:52.44 | bob2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:52.56 | debiant | huhlig: what bob2 said |
| 03:52.57 | tecnotronic | i used nano-tiny |
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| 03:53.14 | tecnotronic | i only can boot up from the cd |
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| 03:53.39 | huhlig | Nov 4 19:52:42 MDGateway postfix/master[728]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/cleanup pid 13400 exit status 1 |
| 03:53.39 | huhlig | Nov 4 19:52:42 MDGateway postfix/master[728]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/cleanup: bad command startup -- throttling |
| 03:53.39 | huhlig | Nov 4 19:52:42 MDGateway postfix/master[728]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/pickup pid 13298 exit status 1 |
| 03:53.40 | huhlig | Nov 4 19:52:42 MDGateway postfix/master[728]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/pickup: bad command startup -- throttling |
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| 03:53.52 | bob2 | idiot |
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| 03:54.07 | MrPoopyPants | bob2, ? |
| 03:54.20 | bob2 | MrPoopyPants: I've seen it before, I have no idea what causes it |
| 03:54.24 | bob2 | begging makes me hate you |
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| 03:54.30 | huhlig | hmm |
| 03:54.33 | bob2 | huhlig: wow, that was surprising |
| 03:54.40 | huhlig | that it kicked me? |
| 03:54.42 | bob2 | huhlig: you broke the default config somehow |
| 03:54.54 | huhlig | bob2, ok... how the hell did I dot that |
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| 03:55.12 | bob2 | huhlig: does the default config work? |
| 03:55.50 | huhlig | bob2, this should be the default config except the change in hostname |
| 03:56.24 | SDFH | autofs good to use on debian? |
| 03:56.35 | bob2 | autofs is never good to use |
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| 03:56.51 | SDFH_Linux | really why? |
| 03:57.10 | bob2 | ALL CAPS NICKS ARE ANNOYING |
| 03:57.19 | bob2 | even more so when you append the name of some random project |
| 03:57.21 | zu22 | !kill huhlig |
| 03:57.29 | huhlig | what the? |
| 03:57.31 | huhlig | zu22, ? |
| 03:57.35 | toresbe | bob2: You are cranky today :D |
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| 03:58.02 | zu22 | huhlig: don't channel flood, go on #flood if u must paste a lot |
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| 03:58.12 | krystofer | man, you guys are gonna hate me... |
| 03:58.12 | huhlig | zu22, 2 lines isnt a flood I thought |
| 03:58.12 | morka | hi, i can't kill the "mount" process, even with kill -9 |
| 03:58.13 | bob2 | huhlig: I'm not sure what the problem is there...running postfix -v might help |
| 03:58.13 | morka | please help |
| 03:58.20 | bob2 | zu22: we already cleared this up |
| 03:58.27 | bob2 | morka: it's in the D state, you can't kill it |
| 03:58.31 | bob2 | morka: did your kernel oops? |
| 03:58.35 | bob2 | toresbe: yeah, I am for some reason |
| 03:58.40 | bob2 | apologies to everyone, adios |
| 03:58.47 | huhlig | bob2, postfix -v returns fatal |
| 03:58.52 | zu22 | bob2: k |
| 03:59.08 | bob2 | huhlig: it returns the numeric error code "fatal"? |
| 03:59.11 | zu22 | toresbe: McD's discontinued the SuperSize :( |
| 03:59.15 | bob2 | or it pritns out one word? |
| 03:59.17 | morka | my kernel is ok.. |
| 03:59.17 | toresbe | bob2: OPNE IT UP :D:D |
| 03:59.19 | huhlig | postfix/postfix-script: fatal: |
| 03:59.23 | morka | so there is no way i can kill it? |
| 03:59.24 | morka | why not |
| 03:59.25 | zu22 | toresbe: after that "SuperSize Me" movie |
| 03:59.37 | toresbe | zu22: Oh, no, whatever shall I do. |
| 03:59.39 | bob2 | morka: what where you mounting ? |
| 03:59.41 | huhlig | and a usage list |
| 03:59.42 | bob2 | toresbe: hm? |
| 03:59.54 | huhlig | do you want me to reload?> |
| 03:59.56 | zu22 | toresbe: go to Wendy's? ;) |
| 03:59.58 | toresbe | bob2: I gave you a box of happy :P |
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| 04:00.10 | toresbe | zu22: I go to Sushi and Wok. |
| 04:00.11 | bob2 | I need a box of "someone else to do my job" |
| 04:00.17 | bob2 | also some oporto, I'm starving |
| 04:00.24 | zu22 | toresbe: mmm |
| 04:00.35 | bob2 | huhlig: I dunno, try #postfix or debian-user or debian-isp |
| 04:00.37 | krystofer | anyone have a few minutes to help a complete newb? |
| 04:00.51 | bob2 | if you describes your self as a "newb" no one will bother trying |
| 04:00.53 | debian | asg: the problem is someone deleted a line in nsswitch.conf, you're right |
| 04:00.54 | morka | bbo2: my second harddrive |
| 04:01.02 | morka | which is /dev/hdb2.. |
| 04:01.04 | bob2 | just ask your question and don't waste our time with pre-question questions |
| 04:01.04 | toresbe | krystofer: Just ask the question. |
| 04:01.06 | morka | an ext3 partition |
| 04:01.13 | krystofer | bob2: I can follow simple directions, i'm not THAT stupid |
| 04:01.25 | bob2 | krystofer: so come in, and ask your question |
| 04:01.25 | toresbe | krystofer: Then ask the question :P |
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| 04:01.38 | bob2 | krystofer: this is a help channel, asking if someone will help you is annoying and a waste of time |
| 04:01.41 | krystofer | toresbe: i just installed debian, finally got fed up with mandrake, and can't get xfree to start |
| 04:01.54 | bob2 | krystofer: also, using the word "newb" will make people assume you want someone to do styff *for* you |
| 04:01.55 | toresbe | krystofer: Have you installed X? |
| 04:02.01 | krystofer | yeah |
| 04:02.04 | bob2 | and now I'm ranting |
| 04:02.05 | krystofer | it loads, then bombs |
| 04:02.09 | bob2 | it was supposed to be friendly advice |
| 04:02.15 | krystofer | dislikes my card, or isn't finding it |
| 04:02.17 | webfreak | howdy |
| 04:02.18 | bob2 | defintely non-irc time |
| 04:02.23 | debiant | bob2 do you know if there kernel parameters besides CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER required for dhclient to run? |
| 04:02.26 | toresbe | krystofer: Try this: X -configure |
| 04:02.36 | bob2 | debiant: if you have to ask, use a Debian kernel |
| 04:02.41 | bob2 | !+kernel options for dhcp |
| 04:02.42 | dpkg | Use CONFIG_FILTER (Networking Options -> Socket Filtering) (dhcp-client package requires it) and CONFIG_PACKET (Networking Options -> Packet Socket). If you forgot, you'll have to recompile. CONFIG_IP_PNP_DHCP should be reserved for special uses like diskless clients: if you asked you don't need it. |
| 04:02.46 | debiant | I can't - my networking device is not supported |
| 04:02.53 | bob2 | debiant: what is it? |
| 04:02.59 | krystofer | fatal server error |
| 04:03.07 | debiant | NetGear MA101REVb |
| 04:03.10 | toresbe | krystofer: Really? Hmm. |
| 04:03.11 | debiant | wireless usb |
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| 04:03.21 | krystofer | its trying to use a Mach card? |
| 04:03.36 | debiant | It requires the berlious at76c503 drivers |
| 04:03.49 | bob2 | debiant: why does that require you to build a new kernel? |
| 04:03.49 | krystofer | PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected! |
| 04:03.53 | bob2 | surely it's jusrt an extra module |
| 04:04.16 | debiant | I have CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER set, but dhclient still bombs |
| 04:04.24 | bob2 | 14:03:49 bob2 | debiant: why does that require you to build a new kernel? |
| 04:04.26 | krystofer | i dont even have a mach64, where do i change that to my proper card |
| 04:04.39 | bob2 | if the answer is "it doesn't, i just wanna" then good luck, but lunch > you |
| 04:04.46 | debiant | the stock kernel spits up unresolved symbols on the berlios driver |
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| 04:05.11 | bob2 | then you built it wrong |
| 04:05.17 | debiant | The rebuilt kernel works fine, and I can assign it an address manually, but dhclient barfs |
| 04:05.19 | toothpick | thanks for help, gnight all. |
| 04:05.20 | bob2 | and that is your problem, not "how do I build my own kernel" |
| 04:05.49 | debiant | well, its a kernel/dhclient thing, and there don't appear to be answers anywhere on the web |
| 04:05.53 | krystofer | better yet.. how do i completely start over with X... |
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| 04:06.54 | Dalcius | Newbie question -- what's the command to list currently installed packages? |
| 04:06.55 | peterS | krystofer: dpkg --purge xserver-xfree86; apt-get install xserver-xfree86 |
| 04:06.58 | peterS | Dalcius: dpkg -l |
| 04:07.11 | Dalcius | peterS: Thanks! |
| 04:07.24 | krystofer | ahh |
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| 04:07.28 | krystofer | let me try that |
| 04:07.38 | quadrata | mmm. that fruitcake was good. |
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| 04:08.17 | bob2 | oh, cool, more idiot AOL trolling |
| 04:08.48 | quadrata | what? |
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| 04:09.07 | bob2 | 13:38:48 quadrata | ok, well here's a question, does debian allow me to use email? |
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| 04:09.19 | krystofer | oh nice... won't let me purge, dependancy of something else... lovely |
| 04:09.19 | quadrata | bob2: well, does it? |
| 04:09.26 | quadrata | no one answered my question |
| 04:09.32 | peterS | krystofer: dpkg --purge --force-depends |
| 04:09.49 | bob2 | quadrata: I answered your question |
| 04:09.59 | quadrata | if I can't use aol with my new debian, how am I going to send emails? |
| 04:10.00 | peterS | quadrata: I've been reading and sending email exclusively on Debian for several years now |
| 04:10.02 | bob2 | quadrata: "duh, yes, any operation system lets you use email" |
| 04:10.03 | zu22 | <PROTECTED> |
