| 00:00.09 | tcsetattr | it says: "In normal mode, i.e., a Sun/PC keyboard when the sunKeyboard resource is false, xterm recognizes function key modifiers which are parameters appended before the final character of the control sequence." |
| 00:00.26 | tcsetattr | and it has a table of numeric modifier codes. 3 is Alt. |
| 00:01.33 | tcsetattr | so there _is_ a documented behavior of Alt+Rightarrow. The normal right arrow is ^[[C (where the numeric parameter "1" is implied). The Alt key adds a second parameter, requiring the implicit 1 to be made explicit. So it becomes ^[[1;3C |
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| 00:02.36 | thomas_adam | dan2: ... ... ... .. |
| 00:03.16 | dan2 | thomas_adam: nvm |
| 00:03.27 | thomas_adam | dan2: hat was it? |
| 00:03.37 | devo2 | trying to compile a custom kernel (stock kernel giving me fits), downloaded the kernel-source-2.6.7 package, untarred it, and make menuconfig throws a whole crapload of errors... any ideas? |
| 00:04.06 | Weeble | tcsetattr ^[[C was the one I was expecting |
| 00:04.16 | thomas_adam | devo2: install kernel-package build-essential and use 'make-kpkg' |
| 00:04.21 | thomas_adam | !tell devo2 about kp |
| 00:04.25 | Blissex | devo2: first, if you dont have the knowledge to figure these things out or at least to report which particular error you get, you should not even attempt to compile the kernel |
| 00:04.33 | Xsquared | exit |
| 00:04.37 | thomas_adam | !exit |
| 00:04.37 | dpkg | /quit you fool! |
| 00:04.38 | Blissex | devo2: second, which particular error? |
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| 00:05.27 | Blissex | devo2: third, just use 2.4.x for now... |
| 00:05.35 | devo2 | Blissex, like I said, it's a whole crapload of them, mostly undeclared functions and no such file errors |
| 00:05.38 | mboso | anyone know how to get CUPS to automatically turn on the pinter when you send a print job? It use to do it in RH. doesn't anymore when i switched over to debian |
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| 00:06.56 | Blissex | devo2: then as thomas_adam said make sure that "apt-get install build-essential" is done |
| 00:07.13 | Blissex | devo2: other than that it is hard to say. |
| 00:07.44 | cafe_roy | mboso: turn on ? |
| 00:07.49 | devo2 | Blissex, thomas_adam, ahh, I didn't have build-essential, thanks |
| 00:08.12 | devo2 | I've compiled kernels before on a gentoo system but not on debian, so I didn't know what gentoo had that debian didn't |
| 00:08.31 | thomas_adam | devo2: No worries. |
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| 00:08.50 | Blissex | devo2: the compiler? the dev libraries? the headers? :-) |
| 00:09.11 | devo2 | Blissex, yes I am rapidly discovering that debian doesn't have much of anything needed for compiling on a fresh install =) |
| 00:09.21 | jeff2 | how does /dev/random generate its numbers? |
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| 00:09.30 | simonrvn | jeff2: randomly |
| 00:09.37 | ac1d | hello, what keymap does debian fall back to if /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz doesn't exist |
| 00:09.46 | LaaLaa | simonrvn, ;) |
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| 00:09.53 | Blissex | jeff2: tha is a difficult and complicated subject to describe. There are a few papers that describe the issues involved. |
| 00:10.00 | patterson | seed |
| 00:10.15 | patterson | ? |
| 00:10.19 | LaaLaa | jeff2, maybe by rand(). 0 to 32768 |
| 00:10.19 | The_Universe | Q: how would you recommend checking to make sure the blocks are all good on a 205 gig external harddisk? |
| 00:10.26 | Blissex | jeff2: but briefly, bu using the low order bits of timing events. |
| 00:10.41 | scarynetworkguy | The_Universe, they aren't |
| 00:10.44 | Blissex | The_Universe: the answer is not something you would like to hear. Don't check. |
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| 00:11.03 | The_Universe | Blissex, why not |
| 00:11.19 | scarynetworkguy | The_Universe, because they aren't |
| 00:11.20 | [NGF]black_dagge | hi |
| 00:11.20 | The_Universe | scarynetworkguy, why do you say they arnt? |
| 00:11.29 | Blissex | The_Universe: because of what scarynetworkguy says. |
| 00:11.45 | scarynetworkguy | The_Universe, beacause there are bad blocks on *all* harddrives |
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| 00:12.01 | The_Universe | scarynetworkguy, there are none on my internal drive |
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| 00:12.19 | Weeble | hmm I see so the ;3 gets shoved in before the last character of the sequence... which sick person thought that up ? |
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| 00:12.26 | Blissex | The_Universe: lets say that modern hard drives operate very differently from what you think. They are basically simplified file servers... |
| 00:12.27 | Frlsstny | #knoppix |
| 00:12.30 | [NGF]black_dagge | hi! i have some problems with debian 3.0rl |
| 00:12.32 | The_Universe | scarynetworkguy, also its different if its 5 megs of bad blocks verses 3 gigs of bad blocks and i would like to know |
| 00:12.33 | scarynetworkguy | The_Universe, you go on thinking that |
| 00:12.49 | LaaLaa | [NGF]black_dagge, well... |
| 00:12.53 | patterson | doesnt ide hide them ? |
| 00:13.04 | scarynetworkguy | patterson, exactly |
| 00:13.05 | Blissex | patterson: thats part of the problem... |
| 00:13.09 | [NGF]black_dagge | i need driver for my raid-controllers |
| 00:13.23 | scarynetworkguy | The_Universe, does the reported size of the drive seem about right? |
| 00:13.24 | [NGF]black_dagge | but i only found drivers for redhat or suse |
| 00:13.33 | patterson | thinks of steve gibson |
| 00:13.40 | g4lt | [NGF]black_dagge alien |
| 00:13.41 | The_Universe | scarynetworkguy, yeah it reports 203.4 gigs |
| 00:13.52 | The_Universe | 203.9 |
| 00:13.56 | sgeigerbot | g4lt: do you know anything about serial ports? You know, the behave pretty much the same under most distros. |
| 00:14.04 | patterson | and spinrite just now dealing with ntfs |
| 00:14.17 | Blissex | The_Universe: if you want to check how ``good'' and clean your drive is, use 'smartctl' from 'smartmontools'. |
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| 00:14.43 | scarynetworkguy | The_Universe, then you have no more than the normal number of bad blocks. Basically it is impossible to make a HDD with no bad blocks at a price you would pay for it. The whole thing is built around that fact that there are some. even done to the fact that they insist on calling a k 1000 |
| 00:15.08 | The_Universe | scarynetworkguy, i bought this drive from ebay |
| 00:15.16 | scarynetworkguy | The_Universe, when I started with computers these things were a concern not so much here in the year 2004 |
| 00:15.18 | g4lt | sgeigerbot yeah, unless you got one of those billion-port terminal boards |
| 00:15.25 | Blissex | The_Universe: also, you are asking really ``how can I check how many unspared bad blocks has my drive got?'' and the answer is that in general that should be done, because if the drive firmware has to cope with more bad blocks that it has spares for, bad news. |
| 00:15.32 | [NGF]black_dagge | can anyone help me? (sorry, my english is bad) |
| 00:15.51 | g4lt | [NGF]black_dagge if you won't listen, no |
| 00:15.55 | patterson | debug g=c800:5 |
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| 00:16.02 | Blissex | [NGF]black_dagge: first, dont ask metaquestions, second, just ask a question with model numbers and details. |
| 00:16.30 | [NGF]black_dagge | model numbers? |
| 00:16.33 | scarynetworkguy | The_Universe, so congrats your drive is good |
| 00:16.50 | sgeigerbot | g4lt: then in that case, please be nicer to someone asking a question about cu. Just because he's using a DDD (Debian-derived distro) doesn't mean he needs to go to another channel. |
| 00:17.06 | Blissex | [NGF]black_dagge: in my imagination you are asking: which driver should I use for my RAID card? |
| 00:17.10 | [NGF]black_dagge | ya, it's a adaptec 1200a (with a highpoint 370a chip) |
| 00:17.39 | patterson | this is a good or bad thing ? |
| 00:17.48 | [NGF]black_dagge | i only found drivers for suse & hedhat |
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| 00:17.58 | g4lt | sgeigerbot no, i will NOT be nicer to knoppix users that think #debian is the place to turn to for their problems. they have their own help resources |
| 00:18.24 | patterson | golly |
| 00:18.35 | Blissex | [NGF]black_dagge: have tried a web search? |
| 00:18.43 | sgeigerbot | g4lt: Okay, then, have it your way. |
| 00:18.54 | g4lt | [NGF]black_dagge did you even hear me about alien? |
| 00:18.55 | scarynetworkguy | is the coke part manadatory? |
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| 00:19.32 | patterson | retracted that part of the masters of the universe code circa 1989 |
| 00:19.35 | [NGF]black_dagge | the 2. raid-controller is the promise onboard-controller on my msi k7n2 delta ilsr (a fasttrak s150 txplus) |
| 00:19.56 | helix | thomas_adam: aww :( |
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| 00:20.11 | daesotho | does anybody here know about ethertap and arp? |
| 00:20.17 | FarrisG | can anyone point me to some decent linux software for editing/resampling/encoding wav to mp3 and back? I'm trying to convert some mp3s to wavs that my Nokia 3650 will use as a ringtone |
| 00:20.18 | [NGF]black_dagge | i searched on the producers homepaiges and debian.org |
| 00:20.22 | g4lt | sgeigerbot and why the hell are you yanking MY chain about it? hell, nobody fucking listens to me anyway |
| 00:20.27 | sgeigerbot | daesotho: no, those are in Knoppix. |
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| 00:20.29 | Wi_Fi | i need help guys |
| 00:20.32 | Wi_Fi | cant get full screen on my laptop |
| 00:20.42 | thomas_adam | helix: :'( no sleep. I'm so tired. |
| 00:20.45 | sgeigerbot | g4lt: what? |
| 00:20.55 | The_Universe | how can i tell if my drive supports SMART? |
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| 00:21.05 | simonrvn | g4lt: you sure about that? |
| 00:21.05 | scarynetworkguy | FarrisG, Is it your day off? |
| 00:21.06 | Stupendoussteve | The_Universe: How old is it? |
| 00:21.12 | daesotho | k |
| 00:21.15 | humbolt | I have trouble installing exim4 --reinstalling actually after rm -r /etc/exim4 |
| 00:21.21 | The_Universe | Stupendoussteve, its a 204 gig drive |
| 00:21.23 | The_Universe | so not that old |
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| 00:21.38 | humbolt | Error: Unsplit config selected and /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template missing ... exiting |
| 00:21.42 | g4lt | simonrvn this is the second time I've had to repeat myself when helping people, and [NGF]black_dagge still hasn't gotten it |
| 00:21.44 | patterson | get the appropiate drive fitness tool kind of thing from the maker |
| 00:21.51 | sgeigerbot | g4lt: Well, you could call me a natural-born teacher. I think everyone can learn...and should. You know, if everyone would do that, we would have fewer dumbasses in this world. |
| 00:22.00 | Stupendoussteve | The_Universe: IDE? It would be amazingly surprising if it didn't support SMART |
| 00:22.10 | helix | thomas_adam: :/ |
| 00:22.12 | [NGF]black_dagge | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.12 | [NGF]black_dagge | <patterson> get the appropiate drive fitness tool kind of thing from the maker |
| 00:22.12 | humbolt | I would think exim4-config brings it's own new config files? |
| 00:22.20 | [NGF]black_dagge | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.20 | [NGF]black_dagge | <patterson> get the appropiate drive fitness tool kind of thing from the maker |
| 00:22.21 | simonrvn | g4lt: don't blame yourself for having people not listen to you |
| 00:22.22 | sgeigerbot | g4lt: that's called re-repeating |
| 00:22.22 | helix | (only temporarily) |
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| 00:22.26 | FarrisG | scarynetworkguy: Well, yes. Why? |
| 00:22.43 | helix | thomas_adam: good luck |
| 00:22.52 | scarynetworkguy | FarrisG, just a stupid joke. :) |
| 00:22.56 | Wi_Fi | was is xwindow such a pain |
| 00:22.57 | Wi_Fi | eheh |
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| 00:23.08 | sgeigerbot | Wi_Fi: It will grow on you. |
| 00:23.08 | The_Universe | Stupendoussteve, does SMART slow a drive down? because i see on the man page i have to enable it for drives |
| 00:23.09 | g4lt | !tell thomas_adam about away ;P |
| 00:23.20 | thomas_adam | g4lt: :P |
| 00:23.30 | Wi_Fi | i like it once its installed |
| 00:23.36 | Wi_Fi | but getting there............. |
| 00:24.01 | Defenestrator | humbolt: I don't know for sure, but you might try purging (rather than just removing) exim4 then reinstalling |
| 00:24.20 | sgeigerbot | G'nore, G'nore, get back to where you one belong |
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| 00:24.51 | thomas_adam | helix: Thanks. :D |
| 00:25.13 | sgeigerbot | humbolt: you have to do "apt-get remove --purge exim; apt-get install exim" to get new config files. Debian Package Management Info: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html or http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/pkgmgmt.php or (tarzeau's) http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ or (thanks za) apt-get install apt-howto-en or (if you forget) /msg apt mgmt or /msg apt pkgmgmt |
| 00:25.30 | humbolt | Defenestrator: how do I do that? What is the difference? I once did, but I don't have a clue any more! |
| 00:25.50 | tcsetattr | humbolt, dpkg --purge exim4 |
| 00:25.55 | FarrisG | Ok then, how about something to just decode mp3 to to PCM? I can manually resample |
| 00:25.55 | sgeigerbot | humbolt: I just told you |
| 00:26.02 | humbolt | tnx |
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| 00:26.44 | sgeigerbot | FarrisG: not sure, but perhaps transcode |
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| 00:27.02 | scarynetworkguy | FarrisG, what format are you trying to get to? |
| 00:27.03 | tcsetattr | farrisg, mpg321 -wav |
| 00:27.05 | patterson | feels like the daily horoscope must have said "you will have low blood sugars" |
| 00:27.48 | FarrisG | scarynetworkguy: 8bit mono wav @ 11127Hz |
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| 00:28.31 | yurma | Hello i run with iptables firewall is it possibel to make a traffic stat.. with iptables |
| 00:28.40 | Blissex | [NGF]black_dagge: you have to download the drivers with source, compile the source. The drivers with source are here: http://www.highpoint-tech.com/BIOS%20%2B%20Driver/rr133/Linux/hpt3xx-opensource-v1.35.tgz |
| 00:28.49 | sgeigerbot | yurma: iptstate? |
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| 00:29.04 | yurma | sheigerbot: url? |
| 00:29.16 | sgeigerbot | yurma: apt-get install iptstate |
| 00:29.23 | sgeigerbot | yurma: Be sure to use tab-completion of nicks...otherwise I may not see what you type to me. (My regexes won't find everything!) |
| 00:29.28 | Ox0F0-0FF | thomas_adam: please don't forget about me :) |
| 00:29.29 | Defenestrator | humbolt: uninstalling the package leaves the config files behind, purge removes the whole thing, configs, saved stuff, and all |
| 00:29.31 | Poprocks | does Sarge use X.org yet? If not, does Sid? |
| 00:29.38 | cafuego | Poprocks: No. |
| 00:29.48 | Poprocks | cafuego: no and no? |
| 00:29.51 | cafuego | Poprocks: When will they? No. |
| 00:29.54 | thomas_adam | Ox0F0-0FF: Je ne pas obligee |
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| 00:30.01 | thomas_adam | Ox0F0-0FF: #flood |
| 00:30.06 | sgeigerbot | cafuego: never? |
| 00:30.24 | sgeigerbot | !lart thomas_adam for speaking frog |
| 00:30.26 | g4lt | sgeigerbot sarge never will for certain |
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| 00:30.31 | The_Universe | i keep getting error scsi response fails sanity test |
| 00:30.35 | thomas_adam | sgeigerbot: ha! |
| 00:30.55 | sgeigerbot | thomas_adam: poetry |
| 00:31.07 | Ox0F0-0FF | thomas_adam: i know you are not, i just was asking, with a please... meaning if this please you.... |
| 00:31.10 | Ox0F0-0FF | ;) |
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| 00:31.47 | yurma | sheigerbot: i needed a webbased think who could show how many gbs traffic in and out i was using everyday thrue the iptables firewall |
| 00:31.57 | sgeigerbot | yurma: Be sure to use tab-completion of nicks...otherwise I may not see what you type to me. (My regexes won't find everything!) |
| 00:31.58 | ninja_ | isn't freedesktop.org's moduler tree (xlibs/xserver/xapps) where debian is heading? i think i read that somewhere... |
| 00:32.31 | ranma | thomas_adam: should it appear in apropos? |
| 00:32.50 | ranma | thomas_adam: and do i just run it off a comand line? |
| 00:32.50 | thomas_adam | ranma: No. |
| 00:32.59 | thomas_adam | ranma: echo $PATH |
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| 00:33.44 | ArielMT | hello. anyone know how i get libranet (woody-based, 2.4 kernel) to act as a bridge between a home router and a dialup isp? i got it done by taking down eth0 when dialing out, but there's gotta be a better way. |
| 00:33.59 | sgeigerbot | yurma: does it have to be web-based? |
| 00:34.22 | Poprocks | hmmm I wonder if there are any unofficial repos for X.org/Debian |
| 00:34.22 | ninja_ | sgeigerbot: too late :/ |
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| 00:34.42 | Poprocks | I don't want to run some out-dated version of XFree... if 4.4 is available, then that would be fine too |
| 00:34.45 | Weeble | okay last question because I am getting sleepy - is there something that can be usefully done to make xterm behave in the same way as every other terminal seems to wrt aforementioned alt+cursor key combination, it feels like something that terminfo should hide etc |
| 00:34.49 | cafuego | Poprocks: None that people on #debian know about. |
| 00:34.55 | sgeigerbot | ninja_: newbs |
| 00:35.02 | cievo | all...who does have DWL-650 WireLess PCMCIA card and it's working ?! :))))) |
| 00:35.10 | Weeble | (and don't anyone say xmodmap) |
| 00:35.13 | Poprocks | cafuego: ok thanks, I'll do some googling :) |
| 00:35.17 | ranma | thomas_adam: /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin |
| 00:35.22 | tcsetattr | Weeble, I still don't know what you want alt+arrow to DO. YOu just want it to ignore the alt key? |
| 00:35.29 | Gil | Weeble: xmodmap? |
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| 00:35.39 | sgeigerbot | ninja_: ah, the answer was "ntop"...but, well, he will never know that. |
| 00:35.39 | thomas_adam | ranma: then the app should be: /usr/local/bin/foo |
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| 00:35.51 | Weeble | tcsetattr, it is very simple: I want to learn |
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| 00:36.24 | ninja_ | sgeigerbot: and darkstat is similar and has a web interface but he'll never know that either :) |
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| 00:36.35 | Weeble | the goal is to understand and bend the keys to my will whatever that happens to be on any given day |
| 00:36.35 | tcsetattr | Weeble, you've learned then! The Alt key adds a "3" parameter to the escape sequence. What's your problem now? |
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| 00:36.48 | sgeigerbot | ninja_: I guess he'll have to wait until we go to that big disk (or data center, depending on your religion) in the sky to find out. |
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| 00:37.22 | mboso | cafe_roy : yeah. if my printer is off and i send a job to it, it use to turn itself on (or something turned it on remotely). It use to do it in RH but doesn't in Debian. |
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| 00:37.29 | Phated | Weeble: You definitely have a dictator complex. :) |
| 00:37.29 | mboso | was wondering if anyone knew why |
| 00:37.34 | tcsetattr | Weeble, if you really want to torture yourself with modification of xterm's escape sequences, you could read up on "Translations" |
| 00:37.44 | sgeigerbot | ninja_: It is known to be smaller (in terms of memory footprint) and stabler than ntop. |
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| 00:38.20 | ranma | thomas_adam: yay man that worked, thanks for your help, time, experience, and patience |
| 00:38.32 | cievo | all... hello I have a D-Link 650 PCMCIA card and I can not make it RUN :) Can anyone help me ? |
| 00:38.36 | thomas_adam | ranma: You're welcome. |
| 00:38.50 | dondelelcaro | ArielMT: the firewall howto will walk you through that. Most likely you don't have your routes setup up properly. |
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| 00:38.59 | ninja_ | sgeigerbot: :) |
| 00:39.05 | ongeboren | hi, anybody with experience with lids? can I install it on kernel 2.6.4 ? the version in debian unstable seems to be the version for 2.4 kernels.. ideas ? |
| 00:39.12 | ranma | thomas_adam: i'm off to read many comix now, cya laters |
| 00:39.13 | cievo | all...how do I leave channel ???? |
| 00:39.21 | dondelelcaro | cievo: the dlink 650 uses orinoco. However, if you have a late version 650, or a 650+, there's no support. |
| 00:39.24 | Defenestrator | use /part or /quit |
| 00:39.24 | dondelelcaro | cievo: /part |
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| 00:39.58 | cievo | dondelelcaro : how can I find out what version of 650 I have ? |
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| 00:40.19 | [-Pi-] | anyone a uri that explains how to best update the root for named/bind? |
| 00:40.38 | sgeigerbot | Defenestrator: These console-based apps work pretty well: netwatch, iptstate, nwatch |
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| 00:40.47 | eye69 | dondelelcaro: Argh, I hate it when manufacturers completely change the product without changing the name/model. |
| 00:41.07 | dondelelcaro | cievo: just look at it. if it's a cardbus card, or is a 650+, it's not orinoco. |
| 00:41.16 | idnar | heh |
| 00:41.17 | sgeigerbot | I will never forget that day. |
| 00:41.21 | dondelelcaro | eye69: yeah... it's anoying. Linksys has a habbit of doing that. |
| 00:41.30 | cievo | dondelelcaro : cardbus ??? what does it mean ? it's PCMCIA card. |
| 00:41.38 | Defenestrator | argh... I HATE the LNE100TX cards |
| 00:41.46 | sgeigerbot | cievo: CardBus is the newer and faster version of PCMCIA. |
| 00:41.51 | neemz | Im interested in doing a net install of sarge or sid, however my only net connection on the laptop is a wireless lan card thats only supported by the newest stuff |
| 00:41.51 | Supaplex | bochs reports Message: [HD ] could not open hard drive image file, when I cleary see it's there. any reason why? |
| 00:41.58 | eye69 | dondelelcaro: My dad bought a Logitech Quickcam. New version, so isn't supported properly. |
| 00:42.04 | Defenestrator | cievo: if you can't get it working and don't need a G card, I suggest the SMC 2532W-B :D |
| 00:42.08 | cievo | dondelelcaro : and if i have cardbus ??? am I fucked ??? |
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| 00:42.22 | dondelelcaro | neemz: the d-i installer has 2.6.6 (maybe .7 now?) |
| 00:42.35 | cievo | Defenestrator : i just bought it :-P |
| 00:42.39 | dondelelcaro | cievo: you might not be able to find hardware support since the chipset changed. |
| 00:43.17 | dondelelcaro | cievo: but regardless, loading the orinoco module should end up getting your card detected. |
| 00:43.26 | J_P | people, what is better p2p software for use kazaa network... is apollon or have other better : |
| 00:43.38 | dondelelcaro | cievo: if libranet doesn't have the orinoco driver, you'll have to talk to #libranet or similar. |
| 00:43.57 | cievo | dondelelcaro : who is libranet ? |
| 00:44.15 | patterson | e-muie |
| 00:44.30 | dondelelcaro | cievo: rrr, nevermind. was helping someone else who said that they were using libranet. |
| 00:44.32 | patterson | emule |
| 00:44.35 | DiGiTaLeX | I have a routing question which involved this (its a map of my network) http://210.84.182.194/mysetup.jpg - I have recently set up the debian box and I want to know what I have to do to be able to access the access points, and the 192.168.0.6 Computer. I am on the computer connected to the hub in the bottom right cornor |
| 00:44.35 | dondelelcaro | !libranet |
| 00:44.35 | dpkg | [libranet] a Debian based distribution that includes many enhancements such as: updated packages, including GNOME, KDE, XFree86, reiserfs, etc., a fast, easy install and, a preconfigured desktop. More information at the Libranet homepage: http://libranet.com, or non-free; read the license on their CD images carefully (if you think it's GPL, you're reading the wrong thing) |
| 00:44.52 | cievo | dondelelcaro : what about syslink 4. version ? |
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| 00:45.11 | dondelelcaro | cievo: dunno. I only know a few of the cards relatively well. Check google. |
| 00:45.15 | sgeigerbot | dondelelcaro: I think that's also a women's lib network |
| 00:45.28 | J_P | patterson: emule use fasttrack right |
| 00:45.28 | g4lt | !libranet is also there is/was a channel of freenode #libranet, but it's usually unpopulated as of late |
| 00:45.28 | dondelelcaro | sgeigerbot: could be... |
| 00:45.28 | dpkg | g4lt: that's too long |
| 00:45.31 | sgeigerbot | Dorado: or maybe it's a support group for Libras |
| 00:45.46 | patterson | dunno j_p |
| 00:45.46 | cievo | dondelelcaro : oki, thanks, bye |
| 00:46.16 | g4lt | !libranet is also there is/was a channel #libranet, but it may be dead |
| 00:46.16 | dpkg | okay, g4lt |
| 00:46.34 | J_P | patterson: what software for linux substitue kazaa for windows : |
| 00:46.41 | Defenestrator | wow... SPF for a domain is really easy to set up |
| 00:46.59 | gourdin | anyone can just remind me how to boot with the cd and use /dev/hd** ? |
| 00:46.59 | Defenestrator | cievo: hrm, is it too late to return it? :P |
| 00:47.05 | gourdin | boot root=/dev/hda4 ? |
| 00:47.10 | patterson | j-p , you from haitti ? |
| 00:47.14 | gourdin | or something like this |
| 00:47.18 | gourdin | I can't recal |
| 00:47.19 | gourdin | l |
| 00:47.25 | J_P | patterson: not |
| 00:47.41 | patterson | know another jp |
| 00:48.40 | g4lt | patterson vransievich? ;P |
| 00:48.46 | Defenestrator | I don't think emule uses fasttrack |
| 00:49.00 | patterson | have no idea |
| 00:49.23 | Defenestrator | it has a separate network. edonkey/emule/overnet |
| 00:49.31 | g4lt | patterson in case you missed the joke, look at attrition.org/charlatans |
| 00:49.41 | patterson | thanks |
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| 00:50.12 | idnar | emule and fasttrack are unrelated |
| 00:50.28 | idnar | mldonkey can connect to fasttrack, I'm not sure how well it works though |
| 00:50.49 | g4lt | actually, it's attrition.org/errata/charlatans.html |
| 00:51.13 | sgeigerbot | fasttrack is the kazaa protocol. emule is for the donkey network |
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| 00:52.33 | patterson | may i'm being dense . but emule/edonkey in my mind is less of a security hole. as much as any p2p client can be said to be |
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| 00:54.33 | tcsetattr | Weeble, the terrifying core of the Translation/Action Table system is documented in the "intrinsics.txt.gz" file in the xspecs package |
| 00:54.39 | sgeigerbot | I think I scared wobbler away |
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| 00:55.32 | patterson | Vranesevich ? |
| 00:55.38 | tpk | oh fuck |
| 00:55.46 | Weeble | could be fun^?^?^?painful |
| 00:55.49 | sgeigerbot | !fuck tpk |
| 00:55.52 | DiGiTaLeX | I have a routing question which involved this (its a map of my network) http://210.84.182.194/mysetup.jpg - I have recently set up the debian box and I want to know what I have to do to be able to access the access points, and the 192.168.0.6 Computer. I am on the computer connected to the hub in the bottom right corner |
| 00:55.59 | tpk | is anyone else's xhost broken? |
| 00:56.05 | humbolt | where do I set which mail account root mail should be sent to?? |
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| 00:56.20 | JoePenguin | humbolt: /etc/aliases |
| 00:56.21 | tpk | for some reason all of a sudden I can' run remote x apps via anything |
| 00:56.25 | humbolt | tnx |
| 00:56.33 | Wi_Fi | hey |
| 00:56.47 | tpk | wtf? |
| 00:56.53 | Wi_Fi | how do i set the screen res in a shell |
| 00:56.57 | Wi_Fi | root shell |
| 00:57.08 | tpk | Wi_Fi: fbset |
| 00:57.35 | Wi_Fi | no such command |
| 00:57.59 | tpk | Wi_Fi: well you need to install it, load the right drivers, it;s rather involved |
| 00:58.05 | caskey | DiGiTaLeX: Hya, are the wireless APs acting as a ptp bridge? |
| 00:58.05 | humbolt | JoePenguin: If I wanna redirect all mail to my user account to xxx@xxx.org I can do that in .aliases in my home too? |
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| 00:58.15 | caskey | DiGiTaLeX: (nice diagram btw) |
| 00:58.32 | Wi_Fi | ah so default install of deb wont work |
| 00:58.37 | JoePenguin | humbolt: you can create a .forward file in the user's home directory which contains the forwarding address |
| 00:58.43 | DiGiTaLeX | hey caskey! |
| 00:58.49 | caskey | DiGiTaLeX: good morning |
| 00:58.58 | DiGiTaLeX | oh so its morning where you are too? |
| 00:59.06 | DiGiTaLeX | i'm in AUstralia and its 10:59am |
| 00:59.13 | caskey | DiGiTaLeX: Well, I'm getting my day started, but I guess it's afternoon/evening. |
| 00:59.14 | patterson | presume Vranesevich is a dork with bells on |
| 00:59.20 | JoePenguin | humbolt: i don't know if that works in /etc/aliases also |
| 00:59.25 | DiGiTaLeX | and yes those two AP's are bridged its like a big network cable |
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| 00:59.28 | thomas_adam | !who do you love |
| 00:59.28 | dpkg | xteddy, of course! |
| 00:59.34 | caskey | DiGiTaLeX: I figured as much. I tend to be on Sydney time because I work for an AU company even though I'm in LA |
| 00:59.41 | caskey | DiGiTaLeX: (sorry, Los Angeles) |
| 00:59.41 | DiGiTaLeX | cool |
| 00:59.45 | humbolt | how do I send a mail to a local account?? (for testing) |
| 00:59.47 | DiGiTaLeX | yeh i know what LA is :P |
| 00:59.52 | caskey | DiGiTaLeX: Even wrote a tool to help me manage it. |
| 00:59.59 | TheFireBreathes | I have a friend that just movie to Australia |
| 01:00.03 | TheFireBreathes | *moved |
| 01:00.08 | Weeble | nn peeps |
| 01:00.11 | caskey | DiGiTaLeX: Your setup looks okay, though you may need to renumber some things. |
| 01:00.13 | sgeigerbot | DiGiTaLeX: you need to set up routes so that the traffic knows where to go. First of all, change the IP address of 192.168.0.6 computer so that it is on a different network range than 192.168.0.1. Use, say, 192.168.50.6 ...and set up your intermediate devices (the Linux box, the wifi routers) so that they also know which interface they need to use to send traffic to the 192.168.50.x network. |
| 01:00.28 | humbolt | JoePenguin: how do I send a mail to a local account?? (for testing) |
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| 01:00.41 | caskey | DiGiTaLeX: Unless 0.6 and 0.5 and 0.1 are effectively on the same layer 1 fabric then you'll need to subnetwork so you can route |
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| 01:00.44 | sgeigerbot | humbolt: mail <username> |
| 01:00.47 | DiGiTaLeX | erm |
| 01:00.50 | JoePenguin | humbolt: mail -s subject user |
| 01:00.53 | DiGiTaLeX | i will be back in half an hour |
| 01:00.57 | DiGiTaLeX | so dont continue talking |
| 01:00.59 | caskey | DiGiTaLeX: bye |
| 01:00.59 | DiGiTaLeX | or I will miss it |
| 01:01.04 | DiGiTaLeX | ok bbl :) |
| 01:01.14 | JoePenguin | humbolt: and end the message with a single period on its own line |
| 01:01.14 | DiGiTaLeX | my mirc is stuck here so i will remember what u last said |
| 01:01.16 | DiGiTaLeX | *away* |
| 01:01.32 | JoePenguin | humbolt: or end the message with CTRL-D |
| 01:01.42 | Wi_Fi | i have fbset ... now what |
| 01:01.47 | Wi_Fi | ;) |
| 01:02.22 | sgeigerbot | humbolt: or end it with a period on an otherwise blank line |
| 01:02.45 | JoePenguin | Wi_Fi: to clarify, are you trying to set the resolution of X-Windows from a terminal, or are you trying to set the resolution of the console (no X)? |
| 01:02.48 | humbolt | but there is no mail program on my sytem and I can't apt-get it?? |
| 01:03.03 | Wi_Fi | console |
| 01:03.06 | Wi_Fi | not under x |
| 01:03.16 | sgeigerbot | humbolt: /usr/bin/mail |
| 01:03.19 | JoePenguin | humbolt: it's part of the mailx package |
| 01:03.34 | sgeigerbot | JoePenguin: I bet he has it. |
| 01:04.01 | JoePenguin | sgeigerbot: the priority on that package is "important", so you're probably right |
| 01:04.15 | JoePenguin | Wi_Fi: Is changing the resolution something that you would want to do regularly, just once and for all? |
| 01:04.24 | humbolt | no, I don't since I deinstalled mailx a minute ago. But I knew that it should have been there. |
| 01:04.25 | Wi_Fi | just once |
| 01:04.27 | sgeigerbot | JoePenguin: Even when I debootstrap a system, it will have mailx |
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| 01:04.33 | sliipy | ?? anaconda |
| 01:04.41 | Wi_Fi | be nice to have full screen in xwindows |
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| 01:04.53 | sliipy | dpkg what is anaconda |
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| 01:04.57 | dpkg | sliipy: what are you talking about? |
| 01:04.59 | Wi_Fi | instead i have a nice 2inch black frame |
| 01:05.00 | idnar | !anaconda |
| 01:05.00 | dpkg | i guess anaconda is redhat's new installations system, it's GPLed and may come to other distros hopefully it has gtk+ and text based interface, or being ported to Debian by progeny |
| 01:05.09 | JoePenguin | Wi_Fi: wait, now we're talking about X-Windows!? You just said console before that. |
| 01:05.15 | sliipy | hmm |
| 01:05.22 | cievo | helloo !!!! I have a problem ! my PCMCIA card is detected and I can see it in lspci -v but I can't make it work !!!! HELP ME ! |
| 01:05.23 | _frank | sarge? |
| 01:05.25 | Wi_Fi | i want to both |
| 01:05.34 | JoePenguin | Wi_Fi: ok, but understand that they are unrelated |
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| 01:05.35 | Wi_Fi | but i didnt get any help on the xwindow thing |
| 01:05.37 | _frank | ?sarge |
| 01:05.55 | humbolt | and can I send a mail to a local account using kmail for example to (when I am using sendmail/exim to deliver mail in kmail and exim is using a smarthost)?? |
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| 01:06.03 | Wi_Fi | i know JoePenguin |
| 01:06.13 | sgeigerbot | My keyboard is broken: When I enter the password, it prints only stars. If anyone else has this problem, use this work-around: change your password to all stars. |
| 01:06.20 | neemz | do you guys have any recommendations for a window manager that is efficient on screen space but is also fast? |
| 01:06.20 | sgeigerbot | ;-) |
| 01:06.24 | idnar | sgeigerbot: hahaha |
| 01:06.28 | cievo | sgeigerbot :-D |
| 01:06.29 | patterson | heh |
| 01:06.32 | idnar | sgeigerbot: there's this IRC feature too |
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| 01:06.42 | JoePenguin | Wi_Fi: I have my console set to 1024x768, but i accomplished that by passing in a vga= boot parameter |
| 01:06.47 | idnar | sgeigerbot: if you type your password in, everyone else sees it as stars. like this: ********** |
| 01:06.49 | humbolt | cievo: what kind of card? network?? |
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| 01:06.54 | idnar | sgeigerbot: you try it now ;) |
| 01:06.57 | cievo | humbolt : yesh |
| 01:06.59 | JoePenguin | Wi_Fi: in my case, it's vga=791 |
| 01:07.02 | krycek | hey i've got a problem with my dhcpd.conf |
| 01:07.09 | cievo | humbolt : it's D-Link DWL- 650 |
| 01:07.23 | JoePenguin | Wi_Fi: if you want more information about that, read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt |
| 01:07.26 | Wi_Fi | where did you do that JoePenguin |
| 01:07.27 | cievo | humbolt : it says: 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20) |
| 01:07.36 | Wi_Fi | tnx |
| 01:07.43 | JoePenguin | Wi_Fi: i did that in /boot/grub/menu.lst, because it's a boot parameter |
| 01:07.43 | cievo | humbolt : but is also says : Subsystem: D-Link System Inc: Unknown device 3302 |
| 01:07.45 | cievo | :) |
| 01:07.51 | JoePenguin | Wi_Fi: if i used LILO, then it would have been in /etc/lilo.conf |
| 01:07.52 | krycek | can somebody help me with a subnet declaration |
| 01:08.08 | humbolt | cievo: wifi |
| 01:08.10 | krycek | Aug 24 03:04:13 krycek dhcpd: Please write a subnet declaration in your dhcpd.conf file for the |
| 01:08.16 | cievo | all...what does it mean if I see Unknown device 3302 when I list card at lspci -v ? That I don't have a driver ? |
| 01:08.18 | humbolt | cievo: this is a wireless card?? |
| 01:08.20 | sgeigerbot | krycek: apt-get install sipcalc |
| 01:08.24 | cievo | humbolt : yes, wi-fi card |
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| 01:08.34 | vile_maxim | Where can I find a list of wireless pcmcia cards that will work with debian. The only list I could find was under mandrakes site, but the card they mention I cannot find. |
| 01:08.38 | g4lt | krycek and of course, you read the manpages already? |
| 01:08.46 | krycek | sgeigerbot: i know what it is, just don't know what to write |
| 01:09.00 | krycek | g4lt: it worked before the update |
| 01:09.08 | krycek | g4lt: i can send you my dhcpd.conf file |
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| 01:09.17 | g4lt | krycek I didn't ask that, I asked if you ead the manpage |
| 01:09.22 | humbolt | so are the modules loaded by pcmcia service?? |
| 01:09.24 | sgeigerbot | krycek: Make your question a little more specific, and perhaps then some of the people here will answer. My bot attention span is only 4096k...so ask your question all in one line. |
| 01:10.20 | cievo | . |
| 01:10.41 | humbolt | cievo: # lsmod and look if there is any prism, orinoco, hermes airo |
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| 01:11.05 | cievo | humbolt: i compiled those modules into kernel. |
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| 01:11.40 | Wi_Fi | JoePenguin: where did you put that vga= |
| 01:11.46 | Wi_Fi | i dont have the docs |
| 01:11.47 | chemeno | hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:12.05 | g4lt | !ep |
| 01:12.05 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:12.15 | humbolt | cievo: does ifconfig show the new interface? |
| 01:12.23 | TheFireBreathes | lol |
| 01:12.32 | JoePenguin | Wi_Fi: # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 vga=791 ro hdg=none |
| 01:12.40 | cievo | humbolt : nope,that's a problem ! :)))) |
| 01:12.46 | chemeno | where is saddam??????????? |
| 01:12.55 | humbolt | cievo: does ifconfig -a show the new interface? |
| 01:12.56 | deadcat | my /proc/drivers/nvidia/agp/status is enabled but my glxgears is still only 900fps MAX. any idea? |
| 01:13.12 | Wi_Fi | where in the menu.lst |
| 01:13.30 | g4lt | chemeno I'd suggest you ask a Debian-related question PDQ... |
| 01:13.31 | cievo | humbolt : nope :) |
| 01:14.33 | humbolt | cievo: did you check out, if it is supported by linux, which kernel are you using? |
| 01:14.38 | dondelelcaro | chemeno: you're totally of topic for #debian, and using way too much punctation. If you don't have anything Debian related to ask about, kindly /part. |
| 01:15.04 | idnar | maybe saddam is a new package manager? *grin* |
| 01:15.05 | cievo | humbolt : 2.6.4 , but it's cardbus... |
| 01:15.12 | chemeno | this is so fucking bored.... |
| 01:15.21 | tcsetattr | chemeno, you may have to use dist-upgrade to convince apt-get to install the new "allawi" package that superseds saddam |
| 01:15.24 | cievo | humbolt : i'm goin' to try 2.6.7 |
| 01:15.28 | humbolt | cievo: somehow you have to activate isa bus in kernel to get pcmcia working |
| 01:15.37 | g4lt | chemeno don't let the door hit you where the dog should've bit you |
| 01:15.43 | Wi_Fi | thnx joy |
| 01:15.46 | Wi_Fi | JoePenguin: |
| 01:15.46 | chemeno | i love you saddam anda bin laden!!!!! |
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| 01:15.47 | Wi_Fi | hehe |
| 01:15.52 | Wi_Fi | that did the trick |
| 01:15.56 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 01:15.56 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@ti211310a080-10827.bb.online.no] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:15.56 | *** part/#debian chemeno (luis_666_m@ti211310a080-10827.bb.online.no) |
| 01:15.56 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:16.01 | humbolt | cievo: activae hotplug, isa and isapnp |
| 01:16.07 | cievo | humbolt : my isa is alright and pcmcia too...when I take card out that card disappears from lspci ...... |
| 01:16.14 | Wi_Fi | now i need to get gnome or kde up to screen |
| 01:16.58 | cievo | humbolt : and when I plug it back it's in lspci...but it says its name in there but also says Unknown device...same think with my Ethernet card but that one is working alright |
