| 00:00.07 | somiaj | renan: I belive it the s3 savage is the name of the card.... |
| 00:00.13 | renan | mmmm abrotman I dont really know is a s3 trio |
| 00:00.19 | doub | Cire: i have an external hd here, it outputs 12V, 1.5A. that's 18 W |
| 00:00.22 | abrotman | that is a trio .. |
| 00:00.24 | Zap-W | hell , floppies are bad , and i got no cdr ...NTFS partition how to install debian now... |
| 00:00.25 | renan | maybe? |
| 00:00.28 | abrotman | check the docs at xfree.org |
| 00:00.31 | Zap-W | can you run grub from win2k |
| 00:00.35 | abrotman | it may only be supported in x3.3 |
| 00:01.02 | Youkai_Sesshouma | No one? It loads that linux.bin file. I tried to update the kernel sometime ago, but couldn't use it, because they always said something about Lilo. |
| 00:01.17 | renan | ok |
| 00:01.23 | doub | Cire: but it's the maximum power it can deliver, i bet during normal operation it needs less than that |
| 00:01.30 | renan | abrotman, ok I will check |
| 00:01.36 | Zap-W | can you install grub from a floppy?? |
| 00:01.56 | Cire | yeah, because on startup it needs much more than in normal operation. (starting to rotate) |
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| 00:02.13 | abrotman | renan: we have a bunch of those trio cards in my office .. dont remember the exact model .. they suck to work with |
| 00:02.13 | doub | Cire: and for the remaining part of a computer, these are electronic parts. i'm not quite shure, but my bet is that they won't ever need that much |
| 00:02.16 | Youkai_Sesshouma | No one? |
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| 00:02.43 | JoePenguin | Youkai_Sesshouma: read the LILO documentation |
| 00:02.48 | steven___ | what do i need to put in ~/.cvspass |
| 00:02.54 | Youkai_Sesshouma | JoePenguin I don't use Lilo, that's the problem. |
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| 00:03.01 | kees_ | is there a way to easily set disk usage quota's for multiple users? |
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| 00:03.09 | Cire | a cdrom drive without a cd inserted won't need much power, will it? |
| 00:03.09 | JoePenguin | Youkai_Sesshouma: Do you want to? |
| 00:03.15 | renan | Video card specs 86c764/765 trio32/64/64v+ abrotman, this are the specs in the command lspci |
| 00:03.30 | Youkai_Sesshouma | JoePenguin Use a different kernel, and I boot from the floppy the installation cd does. |
| 00:03.37 | js_ | how do i from the command line start a new firefox window if i have firefox running without getting the user dialog ? |
| 00:03.49 | doub | Cire: it's just requireing power on door closing, to check for a cd. except that, they are off |
| 00:04.01 | ChrisW | *sighs* |
| 00:04.19 | ChrisW | what should I do when trying to run xargs over a file that contains paths with spaces in them? |
| 00:04.28 | ChrisW | DIRS=`cat /etc/backup.conf` |
| 00:04.30 | Cire | okay, I think a linux based software router is my prefered solution now... |
| 00:04.34 | ChrisW | ...just ain't cutting it :-( |
| 00:04.37 | doub | ChrisW: -0 |
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| 00:04.46 | dondelelcaro | ChrisW: use -0 and find -print0 |
| 00:04.46 | JoePenguin | Youkai_Sesshouma: After you boot, you can install a bootloader like GRUB or LILO and then you won't need the floppy any more. |
| 00:04.49 | ChrisW | doub: tried that, no difference |
| 00:04.53 | doub | ChrisW: you need to feed it with c-like 0 terminated strings then |
| 00:04.58 | abrotman | renan: i stil contend they're a pain |
| 00:05.17 | ChrisW | backup.conf is just a text file with one path on each line |
| 00:05.23 | mantishands | Question: Is there anyone that can help me with some wireless problems? I've updated my kernel image, all packages, googled, checked all my config files, and I still can't figure out what's wrong :) |
| 00:05.29 | Youkai_Sesshouma | I'll see. |
| 00:05.32 | ChrisW | how do I turn that into x-like 0 terminated strings? |
| 00:06.04 | ztre | helix: male privilege checklist #18 is not true! |
| 00:06.05 | doub | ChrisW: maybe with some perl wizardry ? |
| 00:06.25 | dondelelcaro | ChrisW: are the filenames newline terminated? |
| 00:06.26 | ChrisW | *sighs* |
| 00:06.33 | ChrisW | dondel: yep |
| 00:06.33 | sussudio | ztre: i believe you were told by ElectricElf to stop |
| 00:06.39 | helix | !helix |
| 00:06.39 | dpkg | leave her alone. |
| 00:06.42 | ChrisW | onepath on each line... |
| 00:06.53 | dondelelcaro | ChrisW: so cat foofile|sed 's/\n/\0/'|xargs -0 foo |
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| 00:07.13 | helix | thanks. |
| 00:07.15 | pingouiin | anyone here use canna , kinput2 and jvim ? or another input way for japanese ? |
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| 00:07.38 | steven___ | whats the latest version of nmap |
| 00:07.46 | JoePenguin | pingouiin: I've done it with canna + kinput2, and then binding a key with xmodmap to 'Kanji' |
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| 00:08.12 | mwilson | steven___: There's something wrong with the nmap homepage? |
| 00:08.13 | sussudio | steven___: wget --version? |
| 00:08.17 | ChrisW | dondel: no dice :-S |
| 00:08.29 | emzed | Is it possible to mount a fat fs with sync option ? the manpage of mount says that sync is only available with ext, ext3 and ufs |
| 00:08.30 | ChrisW | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.31 | sussudio | ChrisW: dond[tab] |
| 00:08.40 | ChrisW | ls $DIRS |
| 00:08.51 | ChrisW | ...gives me a load of path errors |
| 00:08.58 | js_ | dondelelcaro: i would if i knew what/who bob villa is :O |
| 00:08.58 | steven___ | sussudio: 1.8.1 |
| 00:09.05 | js_ | boc maxima is good |
| 00:09.21 | sussudio | steven___: you're using stable then, i assume. why does the version of wget matter? |
| 00:09.32 | greycat | js_: Bob Vila is the home improvement guy (not Tim Allen) |
| 00:09.32 | sussudio | steven___: or nmap, in this case |
| 00:09.36 | dondelelcaro | ChrisW: uh, that's not going to help you at all. |
| 00:09.37 | Cire | I just talked with my flat-mates: what we have here is a P100 and 64 MB RAM. What we would like to do is setting up a system which won't need any harddisk. (bootable cdrom). Is this difficult? |
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| 00:09.47 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, ok maybe you can help me...i do this : canna server is on, i do : kinput2 -canna& then i start jvim from the same xterm, then i start editing, i ctrl+space i got something appear down the screen , if i hit space i can choose strange fonts symbols |
| 00:09.48 | js_ | greycat: oh :P |
| 00:09.48 | steven___ | sussudio: i didnt ask for wget i am asking for nmap |
| 00:09.49 | ChrisW | dondelelcaro: indeed |
| 00:09.54 | ChrisW | hence I'm kinda stumped :-S |
| 00:09.59 | Justin | !wayttd ChrisW |
| 00:09.59 | dondelelcaro | ChrisW: if you're going to use xargs, you need to use xargs. cat /etc/backup.conf|sed 's/\n/\0/'|xargs -0 ls |
| 00:10.01 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, ChrisW? |
| 00:10.02 | ChrisW | any ideas? |
| 00:10.09 | sussudio | Cire: a p100 is unlikely to boot from cdrom |
| 00:10.22 | ChrisW | dpkg: run an rsync company over a lists of paths drawn from backup.conf |
| 00:10.22 | dpkg | ChrisW: You are moron #45 |
| 00:10.24 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, so it's almost work, but i miss something....fonts install ? i got a plenty of...i confused and lost |
| 00:10.26 | sussudio | steven___: again, why? |
| 00:10.29 | Justin | ChrisW: man rsync. |
| 00:10.58 | JoePenguin | pingouiin: what appeared? a little box? |
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| 00:11.16 | steven___ | how can i upgrade g++ from 2.95.4 to 3.3.x |
| 00:11.20 | renan | abrotman, I think this time everything will work I hope so. |
| 00:11.21 | doub | Cire: syslinux is your friend for this matter |
| 00:11.22 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, somme bad fonts (sorry my englis is bad) .... |
| 00:11.28 | dondelelcaro | steven___: just install gcc-3.3 |
| 00:11.33 | Cire | sussudio: the mainboard is able to boot from cd |
| 00:11.34 | sussudio | steven___: don't. |
| 00:11.36 | bztunk | !info gcc-3.3 woody |
| 00:11.42 | greycat | steven___: upgrade to testing |
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| 00:11.53 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, like ¶??ßð?¤ instead of kanji/katagana ect.. |
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| 00:12.06 | abrotman | renan: say a little prayer |
| 00:12.10 | Cire | syslinux? ok, I'll search for some information |
| 00:12.11 | renan | but yes the debian package information said it have the fluxbox as a very fast and light wm |
| 00:12.12 | JoePenguin | pingouiin: oh. i think there are some font packages that you need to install |
| 00:12.14 | renan | cool |
| 00:12.20 | dondelelcaro | js_: uh, you kind of have to know who bob villa is to recognize the sample... |
| 00:12.21 | renan | yes |
| 00:12.28 | dondelelcaro | js_: hint: This Old House. |
| 00:12.39 | Cire | now, I'll be away for a few minutes... (searching parts for the machine) |
| 00:12.41 | renan | abrotman, yes mn this is lovely I like this challenges. |
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| 00:12.46 | js_ | dondelelcaro: ok |
| 00:12.50 | renan | that is how I will learn |
| 00:12.59 | abrotman | renan: ive some some versions i could never get working of those damn cards |
| 00:13.03 | steven___ | greycat: what is the latest version stable of g++ |
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| 00:13.25 | greycat | steven___: woody has 3.0 which is completely useless |
| 00:13.32 | renan | man |
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| 00:13.38 | renan | this thing did not work. |
| 00:13.40 | vladkao | 2.95 is a safe bet |
| 00:13.40 | renan | shut |
| 00:13.55 | abrotman | renan: which version of X? |
| 00:14.08 | ChrisW | ug |
| 00:14.10 | bztunk | !factinfo gcc-3.0 woody |
| 00:14.10 | dpkg | bztunk: there's no such factoid as gcc-3.0 woody |
| 00:14.15 | bztunk | !info gcc-3.0 woody |
| 00:14.18 | dpkg | gcc-3.0: (The GNU C compiler.), section devel, is standard. Version: 1:3.0.4-7 (woody), Packaged size: 1424 kB, Installed size: 3032 kB |
| 00:14.26 | renan | i think is the latest one. |
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| 00:14.30 | greycat | nobody uses g++ 3.1 or 3.0 |
| 00:14.31 | abrotman | 4.4? |
| 00:14.37 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, when i do an : xlsfonts |grep jis i got a plenty of...and when i apt-get cache search...i realy confused about paquages....to get |
| 00:14.37 | abrotman | err ..4/3 |
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| 00:14.40 | abrotman | 4.3 |
| 00:14.41 | greycat | their ABIs aren't compatible with 2.95 *or* with 3.2+ |
| 00:14.55 | renan | version 4 |
| 00:14.57 | vladkao | abrotman: use enter in extreme cases only :) |
| 00:15.04 | renan | abrotman, tt is the version 4 |
| 00:15.10 | abrotman | renan: 4.what? |
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| 00:15.36 | kees_ | Is there a package available to mask the bootup sequence with a nice progress-bar and image, I'm trying to stun my dad with the beauty of linux, and he doesn't care much for the bootup messages |
| 00:15.37 | JoePenguin | pingouiin: apt-get install xfonts-intl-japanese xfonts-intl-japanese-big |
| 00:15.46 | abrotman | renan: which version of debian are you using? |
| 00:15.58 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, i check that |
| 00:16.02 | pingouiin | thx |
| 00:16.10 | abrotman | 4.3 went into sarge today |
| 00:16.14 | doub | ChrisW: you can try enclosing them in ", or renaming them by replacing spaces with _ |
| 00:16.16 | mwilson | kees_: No. |
| 00:16.22 | mwilson | kees_: There's no need for it. |
| 00:16.28 | sussudio | kees_: stick with windows for teh pr3tty bootupcrap |
| 00:16.53 | ChrisW | doub: tried the former, no dice |
| 00:16.55 | zinx | kees_: the beauty of linux is that it -doesn't- hide all those messages :P |
| 00:17.02 | ChrisW | the latter is not an option :-/ |
| 00:17.09 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, i've already got those 2 paquages :/ |
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| 00:18.08 | renan | abrotman, the woody 3.0 |
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| 00:18.16 | abrotman | so only X4.1? |
| 00:18.33 | steven___ | how can |
| 00:18.54 | steven___ | how can i change the time |
| 00:19.03 | kees_ | Hey, I'm a linux convert, but it would be for my dad. I have another question though, at every boot the kernel probes for hda and hdb which takes up about half of the bootup time, while theres only two CD drives on secondary IDE and a SCSI harddisk, how can I tell the kernel to skip this procedure? |
| 00:19.05 | renan | I think I will need to gather the information of my video card or just chage this video card. |
| 00:19.12 | abrotman | steven___: ntpdate package |
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| 00:19.36 | renan | guys when I am in text mode how can i connect to the insternet? |
| 00:19.43 | Justin | ChrisW: --files-from works just fine for me |
| 00:19.46 | kees_ | or whatever module that might be involved |
| 00:19.47 | renan | I can configure my dhcp? |
| 00:19.48 | abrotman | renan: lynx/links |
| 00:19.50 | greycat | renan: you're in it already. |
| 00:20.02 | renan | mmm |
| 00:20.10 | mdh | kees_: on the kernel command line, put "hda=none hdb=none" |
| 00:20.11 | kees_ | links is nice renan |
| 00:20.12 | renan | not guys I am installing everything from the cds. |
| 00:20.20 | renan | links |
| 00:20.21 | kees_ | mdh: thanks |
| 00:20.31 | abrotman | renan: does the machine connect to your network now? |
| 00:20.34 | ChrisW | I get: |
| 00:20.35 | ChrisW | rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at /home/lapo/packaging/tmp/rsync-2. |
| 00:20.35 | ChrisW | 6.0/options.c(657) |
| 00:20.38 | mdh | kees_: so fix your lilo/grub/etc config to do that :) |
| 00:20.53 | stef716 | anybody knows a deamon that awaits syslog messages and sends mail in case of critical notes? |
| 00:20.54 | kees_ | mdh: on the lilo append line that is I assume |
| 00:20.55 | renan | not my machine is not connected to the network, is another machine guys. |
| 00:20.59 | mdh | kees_: yes |
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| 00:21.09 | renan | I am running another distro in this channel. |
| 00:21.21 | kees_ | mdh: this should cut down bootup time by about fourty percent ;) |
| 00:21.25 | renan | how can i condigure the dhcp |
| 00:21.26 | sussudio | !tell stef716 about search |
| 00:21.28 | kruzi | anyone know how i can adjust my refresh rate in KDE ? |
| 00:21.30 | greycat | !tell renan about faq |
| 00:21.34 | renan | and then I will try to use lynks. |
| 00:21.39 | greycat | kruzi: in X, you mean? /msg dpkg set up x |
| 00:21.42 | abrotman | lynx or links |
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| 00:21.57 | renan | lynx or links |
| 00:22.00 | Skaag | anyone else is getting this? |
| 00:22.00 | Justin | ChrisW: syntax or usage error. pebcak |
| 00:22.00 | renan | cool |
| 00:22.03 | Skaag | invoke-rc.d: initscript apache-ssl, action "start" failed. |
| 00:22.08 | Skaag | during an upgrade... |
| 00:22.13 | doub | stef716: maybe LIRE can be of some help. never tried, though |
| 00:22.16 | renan | abrotman, how can I config the dhcp. |
| 00:22.20 | Skaag | (apache-ssl is running just fine before and after) |
| 00:22.21 | idnarhtim | kees_: look up bootsplash if you still want to hide the bootup process |
| 00:22.28 | ChrisW | Justin: pebcak? |
| 00:22.33 | renan | is already configure for other two computer. running other distros. |
| 00:22.38 | tommyj | hmm, how do I *add* a file-association in mozilla firefox? |
| 00:22.40 | mdh | kees_: yep :) I do it here, the only thing on the internal IDE is the cdrom, all the hdd's are on an external controller |
| 00:22.41 | vladkao | Justin: you should tell him, what pebcak means :) |
| 00:22.51 | abrotman | renan: it should have asked you during install |
| 00:23.27 | mdh | vladkao: its a kind of ID-10-T error I think ;) |
| 00:23.30 | renan | yes abrotman but I skipped. |
| 00:23.30 | sirReal | !pebcak |
| 00:23.30 | dpkg | hmm... pebcak is Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard |
| 00:23.33 | sirReal | :) |
| 00:23.41 | ChrisW | I'm sure it does |
| 00:23.48 | JoePenguin | pingouiin: i have an idea. |
| 00:23.48 | relaxed | it's pebkac |
| 00:23.50 | ChrisW | another spectacularly useless comment :-( |
| 00:23.56 | renan | abrotman, I will try to find the way later guys. |
| 00:24.02 | renan | I need to go now. |
| 00:24.04 | abrotman | ok .. later |
| 00:24.08 | renan | but I will continue. |
| 00:24.10 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, yes..with pleasure ;) ? |
| 00:24.11 | kees_ | idnarhtim: thanksmdh: done |
| 00:24.13 | sirReal | relaxed: obviously, it doesn't matter which order |
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| 00:24.21 | JoePenguin | pingouiin: Have you installed 'locales'? You need a japanese locale enabled. |
| 00:24.24 | kees_ | I meant to put an enter there |
| 00:24.27 | Justin | ChrisW: heres a hint: when whining that something doesn't work, it helps to bother to tell someone what you are actually running |
| 00:24.37 | mdh | damn ibiblio is flooded atm :( |
| 00:24.43 | renan | I will continue untill I get it. |
| 00:24.53 | renan | thank you guys. |
| 00:24.57 | sussudio | renan: neverending story? |
| 00:24.59 | Skaag | you guys all have perfectly upgradable apache-ssl packages?! |
| 00:24.59 | renan | see you next time. |
| 00:24.59 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, i've build my own kernel with the native languagues support <*> japanese |
| 00:25.06 | renan | hahahha yes |
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| 00:25.09 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, but...no locales yep |
| 00:25.11 | renan | bye guys. |
| 00:25.18 | floppyears | peterS: a quick question, why the different virtual consoles only work with the left alt key? |
| 00:25.24 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, dpkg-reconfigure locales ? that it ? |
| 00:25.27 | greycat | pingouiin: that NLS stuff in the kernel is only for SMB/Joliet/other MS bullshit |
| 00:25.28 | sussudio | floppyears: they don't. |
| 00:25.28 | ChrisW | '/usr/bin/rsync -av --files-from=/etc/backup.conf --delete /backup/local/ |
| 00:25.37 | peterS | floppyears: because the right alt key is actually AltGr and generates different combinations |
| 00:25.48 | floppyears | sussudio: what do you mean? |
| 00:25.55 | JoePenguin | pingouiin: yes |
| 00:25.59 | peterS | floppyears: if you run more than 12 virtual consoles, you can access 13 through 24 with the right alt key |
| 00:26.00 | sussudio | floppyears: other alt gets you tty13 and on. |
| 00:26.02 | pingouiin | greycat, thanks you for this information greycat. |
| 00:26.07 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, ok i try |
| 00:26.11 | floppyears | peterS: interesting I didn't know that. |
| 00:26.14 | peterS | floppyears: most people don't run more than 12, so they never find this out (: |
| 00:26.27 | kees_ | What is the difference between kernel-headers and kernel-source? |
| 00:26.28 | Justin | ChrisW: you need a / in there |
| 00:26.32 | sussudio | kees_: 12 |
| 00:26.42 | ChrisW | where? |
| 00:26.50 | floppyears | peterS: how did you know this random info? |
| 00:26.52 | Justin | ChrisW: the source |
| 00:26.54 | mwilson | kees_: What do the package descriptions say the difference is? |
| 00:26.54 | JoePenguin | pingouiin: enable the ja_* options |
| 00:27.01 | floppyears | sussudio: how did you know this random info? |
| 00:27.05 | ChrisW | source of what? |
| 00:27.11 | kees_ | oops, forgot to look at them |
| 00:27.18 | kees_ | :-/ |
| 00:27.18 | sussudio | floppyears: brain stores stuff. i retrieve it. |
| 00:27.24 | peterS | floppyears: well, I read /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz, I guess |
| 00:27.26 | Justin | ChrisW: man rsync, read |
| 00:27.27 | floppyears | kees_: if I am not mistaken the headers are just the header files vs, the complete source tree. |
| 00:27.39 | JoePenguin | pingouiin: this page might help you, if you can understand it :) --> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Japanese+Input |
| 00:27.43 | peterS | floppyears: it's necessary to read that file in order to customise it, as I did awhile back |
| 00:28.00 | floppyears | sussudio: thanks |
| 00:28.02 | floppyears | peterS: thanks |
| 00:28.27 | kees_ | I'm not really sure what header files are although I know what a complete source tree is |
| 00:29.05 | bztunk | kees_: *.h |
| 00:29.18 | sussudio | kees_: kan jou het schelen, kees. |
| 00:29.37 | doub | it would be great to have an IRC client with some sort of AI, to keep track of the different threads. or maybe that's my HI which lacks some power |
| 00:30.26 | ChrisW | Justin: great, so that reads from the file, it still doesn't handle paths with spaces in them :-S |
| 00:30.45 | Justin | ChrisW: yes it does. |
| 00:30.51 | McCheese | hey maybe if I delete and reinstall "drivers" or whatever for CD-ROM, then it will be able to apt-get from it, how do I go about doing that |
| 00:31.09 | sussudio | McCheese: you're unhealthy |
| 00:31.21 | kees_ | eigenlijk is kees m'n vader |
| 00:31.22 | McCheese | I sure am |
| 00:31.31 | slidesinger | a quick check. Is python-gtk2==pygtk2? |
| 00:31.33 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, thx for the url |
| 00:31.35 | ChrisW | Justin: no it doesn't, I still get link_stat fails |
| 00:31.40 | McCheese | I've been trying to get to the desktop on this other monitor for 2 weeks now I think |
| 00:31.42 | bob2 | raff.d.o is down permanently |
| 00:31.42 | sussudio | aha! een nep-kees. |
| 00:31.43 | greycat | ChrisW: directory names with spaces are pure evil. A great way to stress-test your scripts, of course, but if you're a newbie scripter, I can see pain. |
| 00:31.45 | Justin | ChrisW: works for me |
| 00:31.58 | kees_ | bztunk: I see |
| 00:32.05 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, i've dpkg-reconfigure locales and choose jp_* but the same...i got some warning now ;) |
| 00:32.08 | ChrisW | greycat: no choice :/ |
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| 00:32.17 | kees_ | sussudio: yep |
| 00:32.28 | sussudio | !doe kees_ |
| 00:32.29 | bztunk | slidesinger: yes afaik |
| 00:32.30 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, like that : Warning: bushu ¤ò¥¢¥ó¥Þ¥¦¥ó¥È¤Ç¤¤Þ¤»¤ó¤Ç¤·¤¿¡£ |
| 00:32.33 | Justin | greycat: regardless, rsync works just fine for files with spaces |
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| 00:33.03 | kees_ | !win sussudio |
| 00:33.03 | dpkg | Congratulations, sussudio! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL cd's, a set of 120! |
| 00:33.30 | floppyears | see ya guys |
| 00:33.33 | _gene | How can I found out which port numbers to open up for a certain client to use on my nat firewall? |
| 00:33.35 | McCheese | nooo |
| 00:33.51 | McCheese | floppy you are my 2nd to last hope |
| 00:34.02 | floppyears | _gene: use "nmap <ip address> |
| 00:34.13 | bztunk | "floppy"? what is a "floppy"? |
| 00:34.16 | floppyears | McCheese: ok tell me |
| 00:34.26 | bob2 | floppyears: how could that possibly help _gene? |
| 00:34.38 | bob2 | _gene: read the documentation or ask the author or strace it. |
| 00:34.39 | _gene | floppyears , that will tell me what? |
| 00:34.40 | McCheese | it doesn't find the CD-ROM so I can't mount it, so I was thinking I delete it from comp knowledge and then replace it and it will do ok? |
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| 00:34.57 | McCheese | because it does read CD-ROM at start up so it must be some software thing |
| 00:34.59 | ChrisW | I'd expect that if a file passed to --files-from contained a list of directories, those directories and their contents would be rsynced? |
| 00:35.10 | floppyears | bob2: I don't know I think if you wanted to know what ports are open nothing better than nmap as long you are only using it in you network |
| 00:35.24 | bob2 | floppyears: no, that will do nothing. |
| 00:35.26 | Justin | ChrisW: no, thats not how it works |
| 00:35.28 | trans_err | how can i real quick set up a mailing list (ie. a mail sent to foo@bar.com goes to 1@some.com, 2@some.com... etc..) |
| 00:35.32 | floppyears | McCheese: what type of cdrom is it? |
| 00:35.36 | toolchest | floppyyears: i think he wants to know which port to open, thus it's not open, thus it won't show up in nnmap. or maybe i'm completely out to lunch? |
| 00:35.38 | ChrisW | Justin: well, how can I get THAT to work? |
| 00:35.38 | bob2 | trans_err: install mailman. |
| 00:35.49 | Justin | ChrisW: man rsync, read |
| 00:35.49 | bob2 | trans_err: or make an alias that points to multiple addresses. |
| 00:35.53 | mwilson | floppyears: Uh, you have it backwards. |
| 00:35.56 | ChrisW | read what exactly? |
| 00:35.59 | floppyears | bob2: why? I thought nmap would find vulnerabilities including ports openned. |
| 00:36.09 | bob2 | floppyears: you don't know what an "open port" is. |
| 00:36.09 | McCheese | it is a Acer 52X max CD-ROM |
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| 00:36.24 | toolchest | _gene: what client? |
| 00:36.25 | floppyears | bob2: englight me with the concept :) |
| 00:36.27 | idnarhtim | floppyears: he wants to know what ports he should "open", not which ones are already "open" |
| 00:36.28 | mwilson | floppyears: The ports are NOT open now, they NEED to be open. How does nmap accomplish this? |
| 00:36.32 | _gene | right, the app isn't working because the port os not open on my firewall. I want to open it. |
| 00:36.40 | floppyears | mwilson: now I get it. |
| 00:36.46 | floppyears | idnarhtim: now I get it thanks |
| 00:36.47 | bob2 | _gene: as above. |
| 00:36.50 | toolchest | _gene: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:36.52 | floppyears | I would say only the necessaries |
| 00:36.53 | slidesinger | Does anyone know what the behaviour would be if you had done apt-get -t testing install <some_package>, then down the road elected to do apt-get -t stable install <same_package>? |
| 00:36.56 | trans_err | bob2: where are those aliases stored? it's been awhile since i've screwed with my mail server |
| 00:36.56 | beth | floppyears: also, open ports aren't vulnerabilities ... |
| 00:36.56 | _gene | toolchest giFT |
| 00:37.00 | mwilson | _gene: Most pirate programs document what ports to open. |
| 00:37.11 | beth | Arrr! |
| 00:37.12 | bob2 | slidesinger: it will say "more recent version is already installed" or something. |
| 00:37.20 | Justin | the gift setup even TELLS you what ports to open |
| 00:37.22 | ChrisW | it's all very well directing someone to read documentation, but whe nyou don't know whic hneedle you're supposed to be pulling out of the haystack, it becoems a little useless just to bleat "rtfm" everytime someone asks a question... |
| 00:37.23 | floppyears | beth: yes I know that but that's what your pc is listenning to isn't it? |
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| 00:37.26 | sussudio | shiver me badgers. |
| 00:37.28 | beth | floppyears: huh? |
| 00:37.33 | floppyears | there's always a way to crack a door as long there's one? |
| 00:37.35 | slidesinger | bob2: but will it then track stable for upgrades? |
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| 00:37.52 | beth | floppyears: ok, true. But the phrase "open ports and other vulnerabilities" is just wrong |
| 00:37.55 | bob2 | slidesinger: well, it will be a very long time before stable has a newer version than the one you got from testing. |
| 00:37.58 | bob2 | slidesinger: eventually, yes |
| 00:37.58 | mwilson | ChrisW: So, of course, your answer is to read it FOR THEM. |
| 00:38.01 | _gene | chrisw thanks |
| 00:38.08 | floppyears | beth: ok, I give you that. |
| 00:38.30 | Justin | ChrisW: except that --files-from is probably the most documented flag in the rsync man page, including TWO examples |
| 00:38.32 | slidesinger | bob2: That's what I thought. thank you |
| 00:38.32 | ChrisW | mwilson: one of you wise people may actually have a clue where to look |
| 00:38.39 | beth | floppyears: nmap will try to tell you if the host is up, and if certain ports are open. Newer versions can also try to guess what versions of what daemons are sitting on those ports. But that's all nmap does. It doesn't find "vulnerabilities" as such |
| 00:39.22 | ChrisW | Justin: yeah, but since that's apparently not wht I'm after |
| 00:39.27 | ChrisW | what SHOULD I be looking for? |
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| 00:39.59 | Justin | ChrisW: --files-from you twit |
| 00:39.59 | doub | ChrisW: renaming your files without space maybe ? |
| 00:40.07 | Tweak22 | any body know what cpan is? |
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| 00:40.15 | bztunk | Tweak22: :tard: |
| 00:40.17 | ChrisW | doub: if I could, I would |
| 00:40.22 | bztunk | !google cpan |
| 00:40.23 | alus | http://www.google.com/search?q=cpan |
| 00:40.24 | Tweak22 | ... |
| 00:40.27 | ChrisW | Justin: so? I just tried that, it creates empty directories |
| 00:40.29 | floppyears | McChesse: does this cd work on another computer? |
| 00:40.30 | dpkg | Google says cpan is at http://www.cpan.org/ or http://www.cpan.org/ports/ or http://www.cpan.org/CPAN.html or http://search.cpan.org/ or http://www.perl.com/CPAN |
| 00:40.34 | doub | ChrisW: or symlinking them with a space-less name ? |
| 00:40.34 | McCheese | yeah sure does |
| 00:40.37 | mwilson | Tweak22: Never learned how to use Google, huh? |
| 00:40.37 | Tweak22 | I googled it and went cpan debian but it just said differences |
| 00:40.53 | McCheese | can this problem be software related, if not I can play with it and then try |
| 00:40.59 | abrotman | mwilson: google is hard .. its new technology .. |
| 00:41.12 | Tweak22 | I just cant find out if I can apt-get it |
| 00:41.20 | bztunk | Tweak22: you can't duh |
| 00:41.25 | abrotman | Tweak22: apt-cache search cpan |
| 00:41.28 | mwilson | Tweak22: What would make you think you need to apt-get CPAN? |
| 00:41.37 | ChrisW | doub: nope, not easily |
| 00:41.45 | floppyears | beth: yes, I know that but once you know what ports are openned you can try to exploit know vulnerabilities of the processes that listen on those ports. |
| 00:41.50 | abrotman | Tweak22: if it doesn't come up .. then its installed with perl maybe? |
| 00:41.56 | mwilson | abrotman: You have to understand about Tweak22... he's a moron. |
| 00:41.59 | doub | ChrisW: dealing with file names containing space is *not easy* |
| 00:42.14 | beth | floppyears: right. You get the concept, I'm just being picky about terminology. |
| 00:42.24 | abrotman | mwilson: well .. at least hes trying to learn |
| 00:42.26 | floppyears | beth: I know |
| 00:42.26 | ChrisW | doub: no shit sherlock... |
| 00:42.29 | Justin | except that rsync works just fine with filenames that include spaces |
| 00:42.31 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, thx you for your support ;) now it's work ;) |
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| 00:42.34 | mwilson | abrotman: He's not. |
| 00:42.37 | bob2 | Tweak22: www.cpan.org |
| 00:42.42 | ChrisW | Justin: I'm not arguing, I know it does |
| 00:42.44 | bob2 | Tweak22: it's an archive of perl modules |
| 00:42.48 | doub | ChrisW: that's why you should maybe reconsider renaming them, quite no unix tool handles them *easily* |
| 00:42.51 | Tweak22 | k |
| 00:42.51 | bztunk | bob2: late :D |
| 00:42.57 | ChrisW | doub: shhh |
| 00:43.00 | bob2 | bah |
| 00:43.00 | ChrisW | ;-) |
| 00:43.07 | pingouiin | JoePenguin, the important stuff for me was what i've found at the url you gave me : «xterm doesn't support japanese, at least on my machine).» |
| 00:43.08 | floppyears | McChesse: ok do you have any entries for your cdrom in "/etc/fstab" |
| 00:43.13 | McCheese | one moment |
| 00:43.15 | bob2 | all unix tools handle files with spaces |
| 00:43.19 | pingouiin | i've apt-get install kterm and good now ;) |
| 00:43.21 | bob2 | if they don't, they are buggy |
| 00:43.23 | pingouiin | thx again |
| 00:43.32 | bob2 | even tla does now |
| 00:43.33 | ChrisW | so, if I have a file containing a list of directory paths, some of which include spaces, how should I tickle rsync to do what I need it to? |
| 00:43.38 | McCheese | yeah it is in there |
| 00:43.39 | bob2 | and tla is, as everyone knows, teh sux0r. |
| 00:43.40 | doub | bob2: the matter is knowing if this is *easy* or not |
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| 00:43.47 | beth | ChrisW: quote them? |
| 00:43.47 | doub | bob2: most of the time, it is not |
| 00:43.54 | beth | ChrisW: or is rsync itself having the problems? |
| 00:43.57 | Justin | ChrisW: --files-from |
| 00:44.02 | ChrisW | beth: tried evert possible combination of quoting I can |
| 00:44.17 | ChrisW | Justin: okay, for the 3rd time, I tried that, and just got empty folders at the other end... |
| 00:44.20 | floppyears | McCheese: what does the entry say? |
| 00:44.20 | vladkao | bob2: what's tla ? |
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| 00:44.39 | McCheese | it says /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro, user, noautor 0 0 |
| 00:44.40 | abrotman | ChrisW: i know unix/linux should be able to handle spaces .. but as a rule of thumb in win32/unix/linux .. dont use spaces :) |
| 00:44.45 | Justin | ChrisW: you tried "that" eh? |
| 00:44.50 | bob2 | doub: for example? |
| 00:45.05 | ChrisW | Justin: yeah, --files-from=/etc/backup.conf |
| 00:45.11 | bob2 | vladkao: www.gnuarch.org |
| 00:45.14 | floppyears | McCheese: what happens when you do "ls -l /dev/cdrom" |
| 00:45.16 | ChrisW | where backup.conf contains a list of the paths, one on each line |
| 00:45.21 | bob2 | vladkao: the revision control system you'll be using within a year |
| 00:45.24 | ChrisW | those paths are directories |
| 00:45.25 | Justin | zsh: command not found: --files-from=/etc/backup.conf |
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| 00:45.36 | Justin | ChrisW: mind bothering to tell someone what you actually typed? |
| 00:45.41 | beth | zsh++ |
| 00:45.41 | ChrisW | ffs |
| 00:45.46 | Justin | ChrisW: or is it a secret? |
| 00:46.03 | ChrisW | '/usr/bin/rsync -av --files-from=/etc/backup.conf --delete / /backup/local |
| 00:46.06 | McCheese | it says lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Mar 28 00:43 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/sr0 |
| 00:46.18 | vladkao | bob2: me? i doubt that :) |
| 00:46.30 | doub | bob2: the matter is not giving you example, my point is : using filenames with spaces is not straightforward, and quite often each tool uses its own way for dealing with them. so this creates an useless burden. so it's IMHO useful to consider renaming them. my 2 cemts. |
| 00:46.31 | BettleJuice | hi... i gotta the debian-installer from cvs.. i tried open some pics on build/boot/i386/pics/ but nothing.. what this happening? |
| 00:46.34 | abrotman | bob2: i like it! |
| 00:46.36 | bob2 | vladkao: s/you/everyoune/ :-) |
| 00:46.44 | vladkao | that's better :) |
| 00:46.45 | BettleJuice | what is happening.. sorry |
| 00:46.46 | Justin | ChrisW: and what is in /etc/backup.conf? |
| 00:46.48 | doub | bob2: s/cemts/cents/ |
| 00:46.49 | DA_ | [bob2]: |
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| 00:47.03 | DA_ | [bob2]: just checking my nick complete |
| 00:47.04 | beth | rename 's/\s/_/' * |
| 00:47.09 | ChrisW | I did actually tell you that, but for a 2nd time, it contains the directories I want to back up, one per line |
| 00:47.29 | abrotman | ChrisW: why can't you just take the spaces out of the directories? |
| 00:47.30 | ChrisW | and --files-from doesn't seem right, since the man page sounds like that file would need to have each and every file path in it |
| 00:47.32 | greycat | beth: ironically, I do the exact opposite of that after abcde is done |
| 00:47.45 | bob2 | beth: s/\s+/_/ :-P |
| 00:47.48 | bztunk | DA_: it's uhly |
| 00:47.52 | bztunk | DA_: ugly |
| 00:47.54 | DA_ | ok so i got this sb audigy es (SB0162) im wondering (before i attempt it) if i can get it working with linux fairly quickly? |
| 00:47.55 | ChrisW | abrotman: because I'm backing up a Windows machine ;-) |
| 00:47.58 | greycat | beth: and you want a 'g' on the end |
| 00:48.00 | beth | bob2: if I have two spaces in a row, I probably want to keep them |
| 00:48.06 | beth | greycat: I was just gonna say that... |
| 00:48.13 | DA_ | [bztunk]: what do you suggest? :p |
| 00:48.15 | vladkao | DA_: your "nick complete" is lame. |
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| 00:48.29 | bztunk | DA_: the same as everyone here heh |
| 00:48.38 | ChrisW | Justin: I'm sorry you feel frustrated... you appear to be trying to make some kind of point, but I fail to see what it is |
| 00:48.43 | floppyears | McCheese: is that a cd burner or just a plain cd rom |
| 00:48.48 | abrotman | ChrisW: so .. take the spaces .. windows can deal without spacwes |
| 00:48.49 | McCheese | it is plain |
| 00:49.07 | DA_ | bztunk: hrm.... i always though just a colon was kinda boring... |
| 00:49.09 | Justin | ChrisW: what is an example of something in that file. |
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| 00:49.16 | bztunk | DA_: whatever |
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| 00:49.33 | floppyears | McCheese: is it scsi or just plain ide cdrom? |
| 00:49.39 | bztunk | DA_: brakets reminds me of CS |
| 00:49.43 | McCheese | IDE |
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| 00:49.45 | ChrisW | '/somepath/some path element/directory |
| 00:49.58 | vladkao | DA_: you'll get no answers if you irritate people with such things |
| 00:50.17 | mdh | DA_: we're here to talk debian, not "excite" people with ascii art |
| 00:50.18 | DA_ | vladkao: what are you talking about? |
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| 00:51.00 | vladkao | DA_: about your "cewl" "nick c0mpl3t3" |
| 00:51.03 | DA_ | everyone: dude chill im here to talk debian to i was just setting my fucking nick completion style... sorry if i pissed you off by typing my colon key |
| 00:51.06 | floppyears | McCheese: try "mount -t auto /dev/hdx /cdrom" where x is b, c, and d to see if it works. |
| 00:51.10 | bztunk | vladkao: n00b |
| 00:51.25 | floppyears | McCheese: just a quick check are you typing these commands as root? |
| 00:51.35 | vladkao | bztunk: me ? yes :) |
| 00:51.48 | bztunk | vladkao: stop wallhacking! |
| 00:51.49 | brazil | oi que tc? |
| 00:51.57 | bztunk | !insult-es brazil |
| 00:51.57 | dpkg | brazil: un cerdo tiene maneras mejores de la tabla que usted |
| 00:52.06 | Justin | ChrisW: try bothering to give an actual example/. |
| 00:52.06 | brazil | h |
| 00:52.09 | DA_ | vladkao: got some problems dude? marital issues, girl not giving you any? whats the deal? why you gotta fuck with me for coming into #debian? |
| 00:52.17 | bztunk | haha |
| 00:52.20 | ChrisW | Justin: what diffrence does it make? |
| 00:52.28 | Justin | ChrisW: because it works just fine for me |
| 00:52.32 | greycat | Am I the only one who has noticed that trolls always attack your sex life? |
| 00:52.38 | abrotman | DA_: just ignore him .. if you've got a question . ask it |
| 00:52.39 | Justin | so you're obviously doing something stupid |
| 00:52.43 | DA_ | anyway, like i said i got an sb audigy es (sb0162) and id like to get it working with debian quickly... |
| 00:52.45 | sussudio | greycat: they always attack the unknown. |
| 00:52.52 | Justin | (%:/tmp)- rsync -aP --files-from=/tmp/filelist / /tmp/foofoo |
| 00:53.00 | greycat | !hurry |
| 00:53.00 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 00:53.04 | McCheese | hey with hdb it said mount is write-protected, mounting read-only, but I think it did it |
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| 00:53.15 | floppyears | dpkg: hablas espanol? |
| 00:53.18 | mdh | sussudio: uhh.. hopefully people's sex lives are unknown to others ;) |
| 00:53.19 | Justin | (%:/tmp)- ls /tmp/foofoo/tmp |
| 00:53.19 | Justin | a b c d foo bar.c |
| 00:53.21 | greycat | DA_: find a kernel that supports it. Perhaps the emu10k1 driver in a VERY new kernel. |
| 00:53.21 | dpkg | floppyears: no idea |
| 00:53.26 | greycat | DA_: install said kernel. Load said module. |
| 00:53.30 | wasylu1 | Hello |
| 00:53.38 | mdh | beware the hidden cameras |
| 00:53.39 | bztunk | DA_: apt-get install discover is you are too lazy to actually know what module to laod |
| 00:53.47 | floppyears | dpkg: I said do you speak spanish? I aksed based on your spanish quote. |
| 00:53.47 | dpkg | floppyears: You are moron #46 |
| 00:53.48 | trans_err | Disconnecting: Corrupted MAC on input. |
| 00:53.48 | trans_err | rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (16639425 bytes read so far) |
| 00:53.53 | sussudio | mdh: i was referring to sex in general here. |
| 00:53.54 | trans_err | i get that when doing an rsync |
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| 00:54.13 | bztunk | floppyears: owned by dpkg AGAIN |
| 00:54.14 | DA_ | floppyears: dpkg = infobot |
| 00:54.16 | trans_err | (while transfering large music files) |
| 00:54.18 | greycat | dpkg, hablas espanol is <reply> no, $nick, no hablo espanol |
| 00:54.18 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
| 00:54.21 | ChrisW | Justin: try puting some files in your structure |
| 00:54.25 | floppyears | McCheese: good then try doing "cd /cdrom" |
| 00:54.35 | wasylu1 | Is here some people from Poland? |
| 00:54.44 | greycat | !polish |
| 00:54.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, polish is something used to make things shiny, or some language with MUCH too high a consonant-to-vowel ratio. /j #debian.pl, or a really good sausage |
| 00:54.52 | floppyears | dpkg: you call so many people moron. you are the moron that's counting ;) |
| 00:54.52 | dpkg | floppyears: what are you talking about? |
| 00:54.57 | bztunk | wasylu1: this isn't #asl or #teens |
| 00:55.04 | trans_err | rsync -a -e ssh root@192.168.1.103:/ . -v |
| 00:55.04 | floppyears | peterS: why is dpkg always counting? |
| 00:55.07 | McCheese | hey it worked now I will do what the guy said yesterday, "dpkg -i *.deb" |
| 00:55.08 | DA_ | floppyears: lol..... |
| 00:55.10 | abrotman | thats a really horrible factiod |
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| 00:55.18 | peterS | you are moron #442, floppyears |
| 00:55.22 | bztunk | haha |
| 00:55.24 | greycat | abrotman: it used to be worse. |
| 00:55.27 | floppyears | dpkg: you always come up with moron #x. I don't know where you are getting these numbers. |
| 00:55.28 | dpkg | floppyears: what are you talking about? |
| 00:55.41 | greycat | floppyears: it's called a "counter" |
| 00:55.44 | floppyears | peterS: what the heck are you talking about? |
| 00:55.50 | sussudio | floppyears: can you go play in #debian-bots? |
| 00:55.53 | greycat | floppyears: stop abusing the bot. |
| 00:55.55 | Justin | ChrisW: i did |
| 00:55.59 | Justin | (%:~)- cat "/tmp/foofoo/tmp/a b c d" |
| 00:55.59 | Justin | hi |
| 00:56.03 | peterS | I don't know, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 00:56.08 | floppyears | dpkg: when you say "you are moron #42" where do you come up with the number 42. |
| 00:56.08 | dpkg | floppyears: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 00:56.19 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:56.20 | greycat | floppyears: STOP. |
| 00:56.31 | floppyears | greycat: ok |
| 00:56.35 | McCheese | ok I typed that "dpkg -i *.deb" in the xfree86 folder and now it is doing it's thing, after this I will try to run X and see if it fixed X problem |
| 00:56.40 | floppyears | McCheese: good for you :) |
| 00:56.44 | McCheese | thank you for getting me past that floppyears |
| 00:57.11 | mdh | hahaha |
| 00:57.22 | wasylu1 | mowi tu ktos po polsku? |
| 00:57.22 | bob2 | floppyears: it's a random number |
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| 00:57.28 | bob2 | !+polish |
| 00:57.28 | dpkg | i heard polish is something used to make things shiny, or some language with MUCH too high a consonant-to-vowel ratio. /j #debian.pl, or a really good sausage |
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| 00:57.37 | floppyears | McCheese: no problem |
| 00:57.42 | abrotman | wasylu1: join #debian.pl |
| 00:57.49 | ChrisW | Justin: and what's in your /tmp/filelist |
| 00:57.52 | McCheese | sorry for keeping you here if you were wanting to go at this time |
| 00:57.59 | wasylu1 | ok thanks |
| 00:58.03 | greycat | dpkg, no, polish is spoken in #debian.pl (not here). Or something used to make things shiny, or a really good sausage. |
| 00:58.03 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 00:58.17 | wasylu1 | im fresh in Linux :P |
| 00:58.18 | sussudio | kielbasa? |
| 00:58.27 | abrotman | bratwurst! |
| 00:58.27 | greycat | 19:58 DCC CHAT from floppyears [192.168.1.100 port 51050] |
| 00:58.29 | vladkao | greycat: if you say that in polish, it would have greater effect |
| 00:58.30 | wasylu1 | kielbasa is gut |
| 00:58.31 | greycat | What's wrong with this picture? |
| 00:58.41 | greycat | vladkao: I don't speak it. |
| 00:58.45 | abrotman | greycat: kill him :) |
| 00:58.48 | vladkao | i knew it |
| 00:58.55 | beth | kielbasa++ |
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| 00:59.00 | greycat | abrotman: SURE! I'll just win-nuke 192.168.1.100! |
| 00:59.14 | Justin | (%:~)- cat /tmp/filelist |
| 00:59.14 | Justin | /tmp/foo bar.c |
| 00:59.14 | abrotman | hmm .. that wont work |
| 00:59.23 | idnarhtim | greycat: ping flood the bastard! |
| 00:59.31 | vladkao | Justin: we know it works :) |
| 00:59.56 | greycat | idnarhtim: DAMN, he's got good bandwidth! |
| 00:59.56 | mdh | winnuke...ping flood...hahahaha |
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| 01:00.06 | karsten | abrotman: I've never understood why there isn't a wellbehavedwurst. |
| 01:00.10 | rhubbard | anyone, here stay pretty much up to date with unstable/experimental? |
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| 01:00.29 | mdh | karsten: my wurst is well behaved. except in the morning. |
| 01:00.31 | rellik_ | I need for incoming web requests to be forwarded to another server only if they match a certain name (otherwise apache should act as the httpd).. I've read all about virtual hosts but that doesn't seem to be able to do it.. any other ideas? |
| 01:00.32 | ChrisW | Justin: exactly, what's barc doing in your /tmp/filelist ? |
| 01:00.39 | abcnew | hi |
| 01:00.47 | ChrisW | bar.c even |
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| 01:01.00 | greycat | ChrisW: it's "foo bar.c" |
| 01:01.13 | wasylu1 | hi abcnew |
| 01:01.14 | abrotman | karsten: because it wouldn't taste good? |
| 01:01.23 | abcnew | what's msg: tdb_store failed: Corrupt database |
| 01:01.24 | bob2 | rellik_: mod_proxy can do that |
| 01:01.25 | Justin | ChrisW: "foo bar.c" would be provingyouwrong. |
| 01:01.28 | idnarhtim | greycat: /topic |
| 01:01.28 | bob2 | rellik_: ask in #apache |
| 01:01.31 | idnarhtim | err |
| 01:01.35 | rellik_ | bob2: cool, thanks |
| 01:01.37 | ChrisW | not really |
| 01:01.40 | bob2 | abcnew: that seems pretty self-explanatory |
| 01:01.55 | ChrisW | sicne I told you i don't have the file names in backup.conf, just the directory names |
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| 01:02.52 | karsten | rellik_: mod_rewrite |
| 01:03.02 | doub | idnarhtim: maybe by pressing g, followed by tab? |
| 01:03.06 | rellik_ | karsten: cool I'll check that out too |
| 01:03.09 | Justin | ChrisW: you didn't bother to put -r did you? |
| 01:03.22 | idnarhtim | doub: something like that, I guess; unintentional either way |
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| 01:04.04 | ChrisW | Justin: did you suggest -r? |
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| 01:04.13 | Justin | ChrisW: the man page does. |
| 01:04.36 | ChrisW | not explicitly it doesn't |
| 01:04.41 | Justin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.45 | ChrisW | since rsync was recursing of it's own accord before |
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| 01:04.58 | ChrisW | and does so when you're not using --files-from |
| 01:05.08 | greycat | griffon:~$ cat /tmp/backup.conf |
| 01:05.08 | greycat | /tmp/this dir has spaces/ |
| 01:05.12 | Justin | It also tweaks the default behavior of rsync to make transferring just the specified files and directories easier |
| 01:05.17 | greycat | griffon:~$ rsync -aP --files-from=/tmp/backup.conf /var/tmp <-- worked for me. |
| 01:05.21 | Justin | and the -a (--archive) option's behavior does not imply -r (--recursive) |
| 01:05.23 | joesmack | i upgraded my galeon to unstable and now my java plugin doens't work. anybody know a fix? |
| 01:05.34 | greycat | err, actually it was rsync -aP --files-from=/tmp/backup.conf / /var/tmp |
| 01:05.44 | Justin | ChrisW: now that you have proved that you didn't bother to even read the half a page of the rsync man page I told you to, what will you do next? |
| 01:06.02 | ChrisW | jeez |
| 01:06.07 | abcnew | bob2, what need to avoid that msg? |
| 01:06.12 | ChrisW | if you don't want to help people, why are you here? |
| 01:06.19 | bob2 | abcnew: find out why it's corrupted? |
| 01:06.21 | ChrisW | how far up your own arse exactly ca nyou crawl? |
| 01:06.37 | bob2 | if rsync doesn't do new-line-seperated filenames with --files-from, file a bug already |
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| 01:06.48 | Justin | bob2: it does, he didn't bother to read the man page |
| 01:06.52 | greycat | ChrisW: I've used rsync approximately once in my whole life, and I was able to make it work with what Justin said in the channel to you. |
| 01:06.53 | kruzi | hrm i dont know how to MANUALLY specify the frame rate in X |
| 01:07.01 | doub | bob2: thanks for this great idea |
| 01:07.15 | ChrisW | greycat: congratulations, you're a better human than I am, I'm very very happy for you... |
| 01:07.23 | greycat | ChrisW: and then I PASTED THE COMMAND I USED. |
| 01:07.27 | greycat | ChrisW: what more can you expect? |
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| 01:07.44 | ChrisW | well, adding -r looks like it's working for me |
| 01:07.44 | abrotman | kruzi: can you do that? |
| 01:07.50 | ChrisW | what you pasted did not |
| 01:07.59 | steven_ | how can i install the library libXft.so.2 |
| 01:08.00 | ChrisW | Isee you hada -P where I didn't |
| 01:08.06 | greycat | ChrisW: it copied the directory without -r, and with -r it got the file also. |
| 01:08.11 | bob2 | doub: this discussion is pointless and on-going |
| 01:08.18 | doub | bob2: maybe then i'll file a bug about everything i don't understand in computers, so they could fit my way of thinking? |
| 01:08.20 | ChrisW | greycat: right |
| 01:08.28 | ChrisW | so what you posted wouldn't have actually helped me |
| 01:08.30 | steven_ | how can i install the library libXft.so.2 |
| 01:08.34 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 01:08.37 | bob2 | steven_: /msg dpkg search |
| 01:08.42 | ChrisW | since I already sadi I had it working without the files being copied |
| 01:08.45 | Justin | ChrisW: reading the man page would have actually helped you, which is what I told you to do in the first place. |
| 01:08.47 | ChrisW | the -r is confusing |
| 01:08.51 | bob2 | doub: I'm not even sure what you're talking about now. |
| 01:09.04 | somiaj | steven_: apt-cache search libxft (then install the correspoding package...if you want the -dev version you best look at the topic and read the BTS |
| 01:09.10 | joesmack | steven_: go to debian.org and search through the packages for that file |
| 01:09.11 | ChrisW | how come -r is necessary when you use --files-from, but not if you just specify a directory directly? |
| 01:09.13 | doub | bob2: i bet so |
| 01:09.14 | abcnew | bob2, that is happenning while run pppd! but don't know what wrong? |
| 01:09.31 | greycat | dpkg, *plonk* is <reply> see plonk |
| 01:09.31 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 01:09.45 | bob2 | ChrisW: do you have the trailing slash in the file? |
| 01:09.46 | greycat | (the starry spelling is far more traditional) |
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| 01:09.59 | bob2 | abcnew: check your disk? it shou;dn't be corrupt. |
| 01:10.12 | Justin | bob2: make him read the rsync man page already |
| 01:10.15 | ChrisW | bob2: a trailing slah on each line of the file? no... I want the whole dir copied... |
| 01:10.18 | sussudio | bob2: maybe it's a republican disk. |
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| 01:10.45 | Justin | why he keeps asking questions that are explained in the man page, and in the lines I pasted out of the man page...... |
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| 01:11.09 | ChrisW | Justin: get off your high horse man... |
| 01:11.09 | bob2 | ChrisW: you need a trailing slash to copy a whole dir, iirc. but as Justin says, this is all in the man page. |
| 01:11.15 | bob2 | if the man page diverges from reality, file a bug. |
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| 01:11.34 | vladkao | ChrisW: it would be nice, if read this too: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 01:11.34 | steven_ | how can i install a .deb package |
| 01:11.44 | bob2 | steven_: don't. |
| 01:11.46 | ChrisW | bob2: man page says leave the slash off for the whole dir, add the slash to copy the dir's contents... |
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| 01:11.49 | bob2 | steven_: what are you really trying to do? |
| 01:12.08 | joesmack | steven_: man dpkg look for the -i |
| 01:12.10 | sussudio | reading manpages lead to knowledge. knowledge leads to want to make people who don't read them suffer. |
| 01:12.12 | steven_ | bod2: i am trying to install the fluxbox package |
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| 01:12.26 | bob2 | steven_: fluxbox is in Debian, at-get install fluxbox |
| 01:12.43 | kyon | steven_: dpkg -i name.deb if you want to use a .deb you've downloaded |
| 01:12.45 | vladkao | sussudio: ah, nice. |
| 01:12.46 | steven_ | bob2: but i dont want fluxbox 0.1.7 |
| 01:12.47 | sussudio | bod2? |
| 01:12.53 | fearl | ChrisW, how the fuck you gonna disrespect a regular that is trying to help (in his own way..)? Read the fucking man page, come back if you are to dumb to comprehend its text, we are not here to hold peoples hands |
| 01:13.06 | bob2 | fearl: chill the fuck out. |
| 01:13.08 | bob2 | jesus. |
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| 01:13.23 | abcnew | bob2, yes! disk was corrupt yesterday (hang ! ) |
| 01:13.25 | bob2 | your penis will nto get bigger if you make someone cry |
| 01:13.35 | sussudio | bob2: do you think fearl is related to lazarus? |
| 01:13.48 | rellik_ | how come when I ssh into a debian machine from mandrake and do 'vi foo.conf' I get a 'X11 forwarding' error...? |
| 01:13.49 | Justin | bob2: well duh, you have to buy the guaranteed penis enlargment pills from your inbox |
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| 01:13.50 | CAiRO | nice, xfree4.3 reached testing, is it possible to change the xcursor theme on the fly without restarting x? |
| 01:13.53 | abrotman | bob2: my mom said it would |
| 01:13.55 | fearl | sussudio, no, I am just sick of people not helping themselves |
| 01:14.00 | fearl | bob2, sorry... |
| 01:14.12 | greycat | bob2: I'm ignoring ChrisW, so feel free to +q him if he's still trolling |
| 01:14.13 | ChrisW | fearl: whatever, I read the man page, I'm sorry I don't have an instant memory for reams of badly laid our and badly written documentation |
| 01:14.13 | bob2 | CAiRO: don't think so. |
| 01:14.21 | abrotman | CAiRO: if you find a way . let me know |
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| 01:14.24 | Tweak22 | dang I just hosed this perl Makefile.PL thing ... I get erros when i install DBD::mysql |
| 01:14.28 | bob2 | rellik_: how about "DISPLAY= vi foo.conf"? |
| 01:14.36 | ChrisW | jeez, if you see thsi as trolling, you're verymuch mistaken |
| 01:14.37 | bob2 | greycat: will do. |
| 01:14.37 | mdh | rellik_: vi on your system is trying to launch some X11 vi variant obviously, and you have X11 forwarding on in your ssh |
| 01:14.45 | bhearsum | does anyone here have any experience with gkrellm as a dockapp in windowmaker? i'm having trouble getting it to work as one |
| 01:14.46 | Justin | ChrisW: i told you to read one section. a secion that fits on the screen. |
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| 01:14.46 | abcnew | bob2, now i must format my disk, ? |
| 01:14.49 | fearl | ChrisW, ever tried Windows? they employ people to listen to morons ask dumb questions... |
| 01:14.49 | abrotman | Tweak22: your first problem is using mysql :) |
| 01:14.52 | WolfDream_ | when using "update-alternatives --config" there are two special characters "*" & "+" beside some of the options. I get what "*" is - that's the currently selected alternative. What's the "+" for - is that the default value? |
| 01:14.55 | Justin | ChrisW: which you didn't bother to do. |
| 01:14.55 | rellik_ | mdh: I don't want vi do be X11 :( |
| 01:15.03 | bob2 | bhearsum: -w doesn't do it? |
| 01:15.03 | Tweak22 | abrotman ... I dont want to use myswl |
| 01:15.08 | abrotman | then dont |
| 01:15.09 | mdh | rellik_: update-alternatives --config vi |
| 01:15.14 | Tweak22 | but this thing im installing requreies it |
| 01:15.20 | mdh | (or something like that ;) |
| 01:15.23 | ChrisW | Justin: yeah, okay big boy, whatever floats your boat |
| 01:15.27 | bhearsum | bob2: it starts up, but i can't see it anywhere |
| 01:15.36 | bob2 | Tweak22: what the hell are you doing now? |
| 01:15.39 | macpato | fearl: what's the matter pal? no nookie lately? |
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| 01:15.49 | fearl | Tweak22, just apt-get stuff, don't manually download .deb's |
| 01:15.50 | bob2 | bhearsum: very odd. #wmaker might know more. |
| 01:15.52 | Tweak22 | installing web stats for myh game servers. |
| 01:15.58 | Tweak22 | it was a tar |
| 01:15.59 | bob2 | macpato: do I even need to tell you to STFU? |
| 01:16.02 | Tweak22 | how do I apt-get cpan? |
| 01:16.02 | bhearsum | yea, i've been talkin to 'em there, heh |
| 01:16.04 | Tweak22 | I didnt C any |
| 01:16.05 | bhearsum | bob2: its working for you? |
| 01:16.05 | fearl | macpato, actually, no, but thats not why I am frustrated :) |
| 01:16.12 | rellik_ | mdh: there is only one program which provides vi (vim) |
| 01:16.12 | Tweak22 | in apt-cach search cpan |
| 01:16.15 | bob2 | bhearsum: it did for me back when I used wmaker. |
| 01:16.18 | bhearsum | ahh |
| 01:16.18 | steven_ | why when i run apt-get just look for packages in the disks and not in the internet |
| 01:16.20 | bob2 | Tweak22: stop. |
| 01:16.27 | Tweak22 | k |
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| 01:16.41 | mdh | bhearsum: is gkrellm hiding under wmaker's dock? ;) |
| 01:16.44 | macpato | bob2: is that an argument? |
| 01:16.45 | bhearsum | bob2: ahh. now, when you used it like that, if you maximized something would that app be beside gkrellm, rather than under or over it? |
| 01:16.47 | abcnew | bob2, that is horrible |
| 01:16.49 | bhearsum | mdh: doesn't look it, heh |
| 01:16.50 | abrotman | Tweak22: try #perl |
| 01:16.51 | abcnew | bob2, ? |
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| 01:16.56 | fearl | steven_, then add an web entry |
| 01:16.58 | bob2 | steven_: because you havent' configured it to look online. |
| 01:17.01 | bhearsum | mdh: i'll try turning off the other ones though |
| 01:17.12 | WolfDream_ | when using "update-alternatives --config" there are two special characters "*" & "+" beside some of the options. I get what "*" is - that's the currently selected alternative. What's the "+" for - is that the default value? |
| 01:17.16 | mdh | rellik_: vim has a gui component, it might use it automatically if it detects X11 is available (which will happen if you farward x11 conections via ssh) |
| 01:17.17 | Tweak22 | abrotman try it where? in what? |
| 01:17.23 | abrotman | steven_: apt-config |
| 01:17.23 | steven_ | bob2: how do i configure it to look online |
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| 01:17.28 | abrotman | Tweak22: on here /join #perl |
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| 01:17.33 | Tweak22 | ohhhh |
| 01:17.37 | rellik_ | mdh: in man vim I'm not seeing an option to turn the gui off |
| 01:17.41 | bhearsum | mdh: 'tis not, heh |
| 01:17.43 | fearl | steven_, let me repeat something.... |
| 01:17.49 | bob2 | bhearsum: hm, it was a long time ago...iirc, it just slipped in the far right underneath my other dockapps, and maximised apps didn't overlap it |
| 01:17.51 | fearl | steven_, we are not here to hold your hand |
| 01:18.03 | bob2 | abcnew: I don't know, depends how badly damaged your filesystem is. |
| 01:18.05 | bhearsum | bob2: okay, heh. now i just need to make it work |
| 01:18.07 | bob2 | steven_: apt-setup |
| 01:18.08 | bhearsum | thanks for the help |
| 01:18.10 | fearl | steven_, search google for "sources.list examples" or something |
| 01:18.27 | vladkao | steven_: man sources.list |
| 01:18.30 | mdh | bhearsum: you might want to use the -w switch to gkrellm.. its also a config option (but the config option negates the switch, and vice-versa, so don't do both ;) |
| 01:18.31 | steven_ | fearl: i already have web sites in the sources.list |
| 01:18.35 | doub | rellik_: a fast and ugly way would be to unset the DISPLAY environment variable |
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| 01:18.45 | bhearsum | mdh: yea, i've tried it :S |
| 01:18.52 | bhearsum | config option changes nothing, -w causes it not to show up |
| 01:18.54 | fearl | steven_, then it should be looking on the web... |
| 01:18.56 | bucky | Tweak22, did you apt-get libdbd-mysql-perl ? |
| 01:18.57 | doub | rellik_: so there vim would'nt even know X is loaded |
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| 01:19.28 | rellik_ | doub, mdh: and how come it isn't forwarding the X11 conection? it is debian->mandrake |
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| 01:19.30 | Tweak22 | inbalid operation |
| 01:19.31 | vladkao | steven_: you can add CDs to sources.list |
| 01:19.56 | CAiRO | abrotman: ok, i found a way |
| 01:19.59 | mdh | rellik_: hmm.. "vim +g -X" |
| 01:20.10 | CAiRO | abrotman: http://crew.ccs.neu.edu/wiki/Linux?action=historypage;id=248 |
| 01:20.14 | bucky | Tweak22, apt-get install |
| 01:20.17 | bucky | man apt-get |
| 01:20.32 | bucky | man apt-cache |
| 01:20.33 | mdh | rellik_: perhaps the xauth info isn't being updated correctly? |
| 01:20.51 | Tweak22 | BUCKY THANKS |
| 01:20.52 | doub | rellik_: it's a matter of settings, say "man sshd_config" is your friend |
| 01:20.53 | Tweak22 | that worked |
| 01:20.55 | Tweak22 | thanks so much |
| 01:21.00 | CAiRO | abrotman: it seems it takes a few seconds to actually change the cursor but now its working fine |
| 01:21.11 | abrotman | CAiRO: thanks |
| 01:21.12 | abcnew | bob2, i'm still in that now , nothing is happing with other |
| 01:21.18 | doub | rellik_: X11 forwarding is disabled in debian sshd, afaik |
| 01:21.29 | mdh | doub: by default, yes |
| 01:21.34 | rellik_ | doub, mdh: cool, I |
| 01:21.36 | bob2 | !+xcursor change is pt-get install |
| 01:21.36 | dpkg | bob2: okay |
| 01:21.49 | rellik_ | doub, mdh: cool I'll do some reading on that... at least I have a workaround for now :) |
| 01:21.52 | bob2 | !+no, xcursor change is http://crew.ccs.neu.edu/wiki/Linux?action=historypage;id=248 |
| 01:21.52 | dpkg | okay, bob2 |
| 01:21.54 | mdh | also the xauth stuff is done differently too... |
| 01:21.56 | vladkao | Tweak22: what worked? the man page? |
| 01:22.03 | abcnew | bob2, pppd reinstall |
| 01:22.05 | CAiRO | wow, what a difference, whiteglass is really nice |
| 01:22.05 | mdh | some specific protocol is forced iirc |
| 01:22.07 | lucas | is Esetroot not available in unstable? if not, what's a good root image setting program? |
| 01:22.14 | greycat | !qiv |
| 01:22.14 | dpkg | it has been said that qiv is much better at pr0n viewing then eog. ;) |
| 01:22.17 | greycat | bah. |
| 01:22.22 | abcnew | bob2, msg too : |
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| 01:22.27 | bob2 | lucas: it's in Eterm |
| 01:22.29 | abrotman | CAiRO: funny .. im trying to find something other than whiteglass |
| 01:22.36 | steven_ | what is the latest stable version of fluxbox for debian |
| 01:22.42 | lucas | bob2: thankyou |
| 01:22.57 | mdh | abrotman: there's heaps of cursor themes around, search google |
| 01:22.58 | abrotman | !info fluxbox debian |
| 01:23.07 | abrotman | mdh: kde-look.org |
| 01:23.08 | greycat | dpkg, no, qiv is a decent replacement for xv if you want to set your root window from a non-ancient image format |
| 01:23.09 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
| 01:23.13 | steven_ | !info fluxbox debian |
| 01:23.15 | abrotman | !info fluxbox woody |
| 01:23.17 | dpkg | fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.1.7-3 (woody), Packaged size: 248 kB, Installed size: 952 kB |
| 01:23.25 | CAiRO | abrotman: heh, i was just impressed about the possibilities |
| 01:23.32 | abrotman | steven_: also try blackbox |
| 01:23.39 | mdh | abrotman: I think I'm using pearlgrey atm |
| 01:23.42 | steven_ | !info blackbox debian |
| 01:23.43 | abrotman | CAiRO: yeah .. it is nice |
| 01:23.52 | abrotman | mdh: i tried a few already |
| 01:23.53 | steven_ | !info blackbox woody |
| 01:23.56 | dpkg | blackbox: (Window manager for X), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.62.1-1 (woody), Packaged size: 206 kB, Installed size: 752 kB |
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| 01:24.10 | mdh | daliesque is kinda funky ;) |
| 01:24.19 | steven_ | abrotman: which one is better fluxbox or blackbox |
| 01:24.32 | steven_ | what is the latest stable version of |
| 01:24.34 | abrotman | i always prefered blackbox .. but thats an opinion |
| 01:24.35 | steven_ | debian |
| 01:24.41 | Tweak22 | vladkok it got the files I needed for my stats proghram to work |
| 01:24.45 | abrotman | steven_: you're using woody? |
| 01:24.52 | Tweak22 | but oh man I gata figure out how to start msql |
| 01:24.53 | steven_ | what is the latest stable version of Debian |
| 01:25.00 | steven_ | abrotman: yes |
| 01:25.02 | abrotman | mdh: im using corp .. but the throbbing cursor is getting on my nerves |
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| 01:25.14 | sussudio | .htaccess is good. |
| 01:25.16 | abrotman | steven_: /msg dpkg info blackbox woody |
| 01:25.37 | mdh | abrotman: I had that prob with fadetoblue - also the cursor was about 3 inches square |
| 01:25.37 | sussudio | next time pety tries to look at my homepage, he gets a nice surprise. |
| 01:25.46 | abrotman | mdh: im gonna try signalos |
| 01:25.54 | steven_ | what is the latest stable version of debian |
| 01:26.01 | abrotman | 3.0r2 |
| 01:26.32 | sussudio | steven_: don't repeat and don't ask questions you could easily find out for yourself, for instance, by going to www.debian.org. |
| 01:26.38 | Tweak22 | anybody know how I start msql? |
| 01:26.56 | ChrisW | mysqld |
| 01:26.59 | sussudio | Tweak22: bah. |
| 01:27.01 | doub | Tweak22: /etc/init.d/msql start maybe ? |
| 01:27.02 | bob2 | Tweak22: it's already started |
| 01:27.14 | ChrisW | what doub said ;-) |
| 01:27.22 | ChrisW | try doing |
| 01:27.27 | ChrisW | mysql -p |
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| 01:27.32 | ChrisW | hitting return |
| 01:27.40 | ChrisW | and seeing if you connect to anything... |
| 01:27.40 | Tweak22 | its allready started? |
| 01:27.41 | sussudio | ChrisW: you should do less of that. |
| 01:27.50 | ChrisW | oh what? |
| 01:27.53 | Tweak22 | dang wonder why im getting Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) |
| 01:27.53 | Tweak22 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 01:27.53 | Tweak22 | ERROR EXPLAINATION: |
| 01:27.53 | Tweak22 | The host you've entered: 'localhost' does not appear to be a valid DB server. |
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| 01:27.56 | sussudio | !tell ChrisW about enter |
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| 01:28.10 | Tweak22 | opps hate when I do that |
| 01:28.11 | Tweak22 | hehe |
| 01:28.15 | bob2 | come on |
| 01:28.17 | sussudio | ok. Tweak22: are you trying to get banned? |
| 01:28.18 | cis | how can I reconfigure alsa? |
| 01:28.21 | steven_ | what is that about the potato->woody |
| 01:28.21 | ChrisW | this channel really is quite anal isn't it? ;-) |
| 01:28.24 | bob2 | how many times do you need to be warned about that? |
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| 01:28.43 | vladkao | ChrisW: you can keep on insulting |
| 01:28.45 | Tweak22 | sussudio nope didnt get it in flood |
| 01:28.48 | Tweak22 | sorry bout that |
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| 01:28.54 | ChrisW | I'm not insulting |
| 01:28.55 | sussudio | Tweak22: you're not sorry. |
| 01:28.57 | ChrisW | I'm commenting |
| 01:29.09 | kyon | ChrisW: ask on topic relevant questions like an informed person, and its really not i've learnt |
| 01:29.11 | ChrisW | and I'm a little confused, since I've found this channel really helpful in the past |
| 01:29.15 | Tweak22 | hope it didnt cause you to have a heart attack and die and then someone cut your head open with an axe and poke your brain with a stick. |
| 01:29.26 | sussudio | grep -y tweak * | grep -y sorry | wc -l |
| 01:29.31 | sussudio | 27 times. |
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| 01:29.32 | Tweak22 | wow nerd |
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| 01:29.45 | sussudio | bob2: can you just shut him up? |
| 01:29.50 | ChrisW | okay, Tweak, poking at people doesn't help |
| 01:29.50 | obake | what are the packages needed to upgrade from 2.4 to 2.6? module init tools? |
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| 01:30.08 | sussudio | or greycat. thanks. |
| 01:30.09 | greycat | obake: yes, module-init-tools |
| 01:30.19 | obake | greycat: only that? |
| 01:30.20 | steven_ | how can i update the kernel from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 01:30.32 | sussudio | mdh: shut it. |
| 01:30.33 | bob2 | steven_: /msg dpkg 2.6 |
| 01:30.52 | obake | cause: Fatal: Error inserting 8250 (/libs/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/serial/8250.ko): unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter |
| 01:31.00 | greycat | what was that place Bunk set up with 2.6-useful backports? |
| 01:31.06 | abrotman | backports.org? |
| 01:31.09 | bob2 | !+bunk |
| 01:31.10 | dpkg | somebody said potato 2.4 was To run a 2.4.x kernel on potato, read http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html . Adrian Bunk has resigned his debian maintship, but he changed his sources lines and moved his stuff. See above. |
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| 01:31.23 | bob2 | hm |
| 01:31.30 | greycat | it was in a recent DWN but I don't feel like looking it up |
| 01:31.49 | abrotman | http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/woody/kernel-26.html |
| 01:32.01 | steven_ | greycat: it is goo to go to 2.6 from 2.4 |
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| 01:32.09 | abrotman | bob2: ^^ |
| 01:32.10 | steven_ | *good |
| 01:32.12 | bob2 | dpkg, bunk 2.6 is http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/ |
| 01:32.12 | dpkg | bob2: okay |
| 01:32.23 | bob2 | dpkg, no, bunk 2.6 is http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/woody/kernel-26.html |
| 01:32.23 | dpkg | okay, bob2 |
| 01:32.27 | bob2 | abrotman: thanks a lot |
| 01:32.30 | abrotman | np |
| 01:32.46 | LinusGates | ok, now I have the base package, how can I install the rest of the packages on the 7 cd set? |
| 01:32.46 | abrotman | does that mean we dont have to help anyone with 2.6 anymore? |
| 01:33.04 | greycat | steven_: that remains to be seen. |
| 01:33.12 | greycat | steven_: personally I think it's premature |
| 01:33.37 | vladkao | LinusGates: /msg dpkg ig |
| 01:33.43 | vladkao | LinusGates: dselect |
| 01:34.01 | steven_ | greycat: how can i upgrade my kernel to the latest version of 2.4 |
| 01:34.13 | abrotman | steven_: /msg dpkg kp |
| 01:34.16 | bob2 | abrotman: woody 2.6 compile problems -> use bunk's packages. |
| 01:34.29 | LinusGates | hmm, I'll have to read some more man/howtos on dselect, thanx |
| 01:34.39 | abrotman | bob2: that will cut the traffic in half :) |
| 01:34.43 | bob2 | or use aptitude or apt-get |
| 01:34.47 | ChrisW | dselect was made to scare small children ;-) |
| 01:34.52 | bob2 | since dselect will make you cry |
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| 01:35.13 | greycat | I only use dselect in a non-interactive fashion (e.g. "dselect update" to fix a broken available file) |
| 01:35.14 | abrotman | LinusGates: if you're really unsure about what you need .. try the evil "tasksel" |
| 01:35.36 | obake | hm |
| 01:35.37 | obake | night |
| 01:35.45 | LinusGates | well, I read up on both, and it continues to insist that I have all packages, even If I went through all 7 cd's with apt-setup: however, it never touched anything beyond cd #1 |
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| 01:36.00 | LinusGates | ok, i'll try tasksel |
| 01:36.05 | abrotman | LinusGates: do you have broadband? |
| 01:36.13 | LinusGates | yes |
| 01:36.22 | LinusGates | I also burned all 7 iso's |
| 01:36.24 | steven_ | abrotman: what is that for |
| 01:36.26 | zinx | :x |
| 01:36.30 | rellik_ | how do I tell apache to include the module mod_proxy? it isn't in the list of DSO modules to include, and the <ifmodule mod_proxy> stuff isn't getting parsed... apt-cache didn |
| 01:36.30 | zinx | LinusGates: why? |
| 01:36.31 | abrotman | then use apt-setup to pick an http source |
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| 01:36.41 | rellik_ | apt-cache didn't have anything that looked useful |
| 01:36.47 | bob2 | LinusGates: you can't install all the packages from Debian. |
| 01:36.53 | bob2 | !+find mod_proxy |
| 01:36.57 | zinx | LinusGates: cd #1 is the most commonly used packages |
| 01:36.59 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'mod_proxy' (5 shown; 8 total): (/usr/share/webmin/apache/mod_proxy.pl) in admin/webmin-apache ;; (/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_proxy.html) in doc/apache-doc ;; (/usr/share/usermin/htaccess/mod_proxy.pl) in admin/usermin-htaccess ;; (/usr/include/apache-1.3/modules/proxy/mod_proxy.h) in devel/apache-dev ;; (/usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_proxy_add_forward.so) in web/libapache-mod-proxy-add-forward. |
| 01:37.09 | zinx | LinusGates: most people never need anything past that :x |
| 01:37.10 | McCheese | hey I got the xfree86 stuff read from CD-ROM, I typed "dpkg -i *.deb" at the CD-ROM prompt and it updated all those, once that is done, does that mean that the upgrade has been made or do I have to do anything else to implement the new .deb files or whatever |
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| 01:37.17 | steven_ | !kernel |
| 01:37.20 | LinusGates | IC, what about x?, I tried startx and nothing |
| 01:37.26 | zinx | LinusGates: and if you have broadband, you may as well do a full net install anyway |
| 01:37.27 | Croepha | hey |
| 01:37.30 | steven_ | !+find kernel |
| 01:37.31 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'kernel' (15 shown; 230 total): fai-kernels ;; kernel-build-2.4.22-xfs ;; kernel-build-2.4.24-1 ;; kernel-build-2.4.25-1 ;; kernel-doc-2.2.25 ;; kernel-doc-2.4.19 ;; kernel-doc-2.4.20 ;; kernel-doc-2.4.21 ;; kernel-doc-2.4.22 ;; kernel-doc-2.4.24 ;; kernel-doc-2.4.24-speakup ;; kernel-doc-2.4.25 ;; kernel-doc-2.6.3 ;; kernel-doc-2.6.4 ;; kernel-headers-2.2.20-sparc. |
| 01:37.38 | greycat | steven_: please use /msg to the bots |
| 01:37.43 | zinx | LinusGates: oh, you're having a problem? |
| 01:37.47 | bob2 | LinusGates: install x-window-system |
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| 01:38.09 | vladkao | bob2: dselect is perfect to me :) (well almost) |
| 01:38.17 | steven_ | greycat: whats the differenc |
| 01:38.18 | Croepha | hey, why isn't apt-get update working? |
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| 01:38.29 | abrotman | !doesn't work |
| 01:38.30 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 01:38.30 | greycat | steven_: /msg'ing the bots doesn't spam the channel with the results |
| 01:38.34 | LinusGates | bob2: well yes install, my solution is to give the distro 10 gigs and install everyhting :), however, I'm stuck on how to convince my base install to do tjust that |
| 01:38.44 | WolfDream_ | when using "update-alternatives --config" there are two special characters "*" & "+" beside some of the options. I get what "*" is - that's the currently selected alternative. What's the "+" for - is that the default value? |
| 01:39.09 | abrotman | LinusGates: use apt-setup to pick an http source .. and use aptitude/tasksel/apt-get to get the stuff you need |
| 01:39.10 | vladkao | LinusGates: you can't instal *everything* |
| 01:39.11 | bob2 | LinusGates: you can't |
| 01:39.15 | bob2 | LinusGates: don't bother trying |
| 01:39.16 | WolfDream_ | I've read "man update-alternatives" and I'm not seeing it... |
| 01:39.21 | abrotman | bob2: let him try :) |
| 01:39.34 | LinusGates | I'm kinding getting the hint |
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| 01:39.46 | LinusGates | I have used redhat for years, I have to get my head around Debian |
| 01:39.52 | bob2 | LinusGates: how many web servs could you have listening on port 80, do you think? or MTAs? etc. |
| 01:40.05 | McCheese | ok I will ask a "smarter" question, does "dpkg -i *.deb" install the updated files |
| 01:40.05 | LinusGates | so x is not installed by default I take it? not that popular? |
| 01:40.06 | abrotman | bob2: if it was kindergarten .. they would share |
| 01:40.12 | damog | is there any way i can deny users to see the content of /home directory? |
| 01:40.18 | greycat | LinusGates: it's not in the base system because it's not essential to bootstrapping debian |
| 01:40.21 | abrotman | LinusGates: use tasksel to install X |
| 01:40.24 | bob2 | LinusGates: no, debian only installs the base system by default. |
| 01:40.25 | greycat | LinusGates: and it's also fucking huge. : |
| 01:40.26 | greycat | :) |
| 01:40.33 | bob2 | LinusGates: use tasksel if you don't know what you want |
| 01:40.41 | bob2 | damog: no |
| 01:40.50 | steven_ | greycat: how can i upgrade the kernel to 2.4.25 |
| 01:40.52 | abrotman | chroot? |
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| 01:41.00 | greycat | steven_: get the source, compile it. /msg dpkg kp |
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| 01:41.03 | abrotman | steven_: /msg dpkg kp |
| 01:41.08 | damog | bob2: why not? |
| 01:41.09 | LinusGates | GC: yes, we learned that from Windows :), but ...., GUI does have it's place |
| 01:41.18 | Croepha | hey, why isn't apt-get update not doing what it is supposed to do... it keeps giving me this error every time i try, and i have been trying for over two weeks... : Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. ..... |
| 01:41.23 | Croepha | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.34 | abrotman | LinusGates: use tasksel .. select "Desktop System" or something like that |
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| 01:41.41 | kyon | Croepha: bad mirror? |
| 01:41.52 | greycat | LinusGates: "base" is just that. The base. It doesn't include X. |
| 01:42.02 | bob2 | damog: can you breakdance on a flagpole? |
| 01:42.02 | doub | abrotman: isn't "X window system" also required ? |
| 01:42.12 | abrotman | doub: i believe desktop system will install X |
| 01:42.20 | LinusGates | ok, I installed on my laptop, and chose laptop, but I guess I misunderstood the meaning of that package and I should have also chosen desktop |
| 01:42.23 | kyon | bob2: could you not just take read permission away for /home? |
| 01:42.25 | bob2 | LinusGates: Debian has nothing against X. it's just not in the base systyem, since it's not essential for every single machien ever. |
| 01:42.30 | doub | abrotman: not obvious, it can act as an app server, without the x server |
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| 01:42.37 | LinusGates | Thank GC, I'll pke around with tasksel |
| 01:42.44 | pafciak_ | hej mam pytanie |
| 01:42.44 | LinusGates | poke =pke |
| 01:42.48 | doub | abrotman: im not quite shure anyway |
| 01:42.51 | trans_err | Disconnecting: Corrupted MAC on input. -> why am I getting that error while doing an rsync?! |
| 01:42.56 | abrotman | doub: try it .. let me know :) |
| 01:42.57 | greycat | bob2: am I allowed to lay the flagpole down on the ground first? |
| 01:42.58 | McCheese | I will try Debian again in a month |
| 01:43.01 | bob2 | kyon: hm, perhaps |
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| 01:43.05 | Croepha | kyon : please dont tell me that http://non-us.debian.org/ is a bad mirror |
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| 01:43.13 | pafciak_ | a have one qwstion |
| 01:43.26 | LinusGates | actually I lecture on bash, non-gui, but I like gui for installaing things like printers etc |
| 01:43.29 | greycat | Croepha: mirror of what? of non-US? |
| 01:43.49 | greycat | printers.... *shudder* |
| 01:43.51 | bob2 | greycat: chmod a-r /home/ seems to stop me seeing the contents of /home, but allows me to use my homedir normally? |
| 01:43.52 | abrotman | pafciak_: ask |
| 01:43.59 | pafciak_ | :) |
| 01:44.02 | Croepha | yea |
| 01:44.07 | LinusGates | ok, thanks bob2, greaycat |
| 01:44.11 | pafciak_ | yes |
| 01:44.17 | greycat | bob2: what good does it do you? You can still see the contents of /etc/passwd to find out what users' directories are in there. |
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| 01:44.34 | pafciak_ | i have problem with xmms |
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| 01:44.52 | doub | abrotman: i did not look far, but a little search with aptitude seems to show "desktop system" won't install an x server |
| 01:44.59 | abrotman | doub: tasksel |
| 01:45.02 | abrotman | not aptitude |
| 01:45.13 | doub | abrotman: just so you know, i know these already |
| 01:45.27 | bob2 | greycat: ah, good point |
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| 01:45.43 | abrotman | i would realy think desktop would install X |
| 01:45.52 | kyon | greycat: ah, and i suppose -r on passwd for users would break things? |
| 01:45.55 | abrotman | but i avoid it since it installs kde |
| 01:45.58 | greycat | kyon: yes |
| 01:46.12 | doub | abrotman: it does not ;) only gnome |
| 01:46.20 | Croepha | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:46.22 | abrotman | doub: last time i tried .. it installed kde |
| 01:46.27 | greycat | Croepha: run apt-setup |
| 01:46.38 | doub | abrotman: sorry i've got to get better glasses, it does install kde |
| 01:46.55 | abrotman | doub: which i think is strange .. but its not my decision |
| 01:47.03 | ale1 | #debian: I am about to install debian. The only linux systems I've used so far have been source distributions like gentoo and lfs. Can you get precompiled packages that have been compiled for pentium 4 processors? |
| 01:47.14 | greycat | ale1: no |
| 01:47.16 | bob2 | ale1: no |
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| 01:47.22 | bob2 | ale1: if you care about that, use gentoo |
| 01:47.24 | steven_ | greycat |
| 01:47.32 | greycat | ale1: but there are instructions in the channel's FAQ for building your own. |
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| 01:47.43 | abrotman | pafciak_: ask here |
| 01:47.46 | abrotman | dont pm me |
| 01:47.50 | greycat | (the instructions are only one sentence, though :) ) |
| 01:47.55 | lanchow | i don't find a qwerty keyboard with accentos |
| 01:47.56 | doub | abrotman: i bet task packages are for people who don't quite know what piece of software fits their needs, so it makes sense for it to install a huge number of things, maybe |
| 01:48.09 | pafciak_ | ok |
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| 01:48.18 | pafciak_ | i have problem with xmms |
| 01:48.18 | abrotman | doub: like apt-get install gnome in sarge installs tons of stuff ill never use |
| 01:48.25 | trans_err | pafciak_: just ask |
| 01:48.27 | abrotman | pafciak_: so ask |
| 01:48.45 | pafciak_ | it don't wont play audio cd's |
| 01:48.45 | vladkao | sussudio: why are some names colored blue in the channel stats page ? |
| 01:48.50 | lanchow | how to make accentos ? |
| 01:49.04 | doub | abrotman: shure, like, huh, gnome ;) |
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| 01:49.13 | pafciak_ | no gnome |
| 01:49.15 | trans_err | pafciak_: you need an add on to do that |
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| 01:49.25 | pafciak_ | kernel 2.4.25 |
| 01:49.28 | abrotman | doub: like .. wierd programs |
| 01:49.31 | pafciak_ | no devfs |
| 01:49.44 | pafciak_ | bvoth cdrom and crw are scsi |
| 01:49.53 | rellik_ | I don't have any mod_proxy anywhere on my system... but I have libproxy.so with all my other apache modules.. is that the same thing? |
| 01:50.04 | abrotman | !tell pafciak_ about sound |
| 01:50.50 | greycat | which has nothing to do with audio CDs |
| 01:50.59 | abrotman | pafciak_: did you try the gnome/kde cd player? |
| 01:51.18 | bob2 | pafciak_: instal xmms-cdread |
| 01:51.33 | abrotman | yes greycat i noticed |
| 01:51.48 | greycat | pafciak_: there are instructions in the FAQ for setting up audio and for setting up audio-CD-playing |
| 01:51.48 | doub | bob2: the regular xmms now has an option for digital cd-reading |
| 01:52.00 | rellik_ | don't you have to have the audio cable going from the cd drive to the soundcard to play audio CDs? or not anymore? |
| 01:52.01 | doub | bob2: at least for the testing version |
| 01:52.06 | Croepha | how do i get apt-setup to work with sarge??? |
| 01:52.14 | bob2 | doub: ah, that is true. |
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| 01:52.16 | greycat | rellik_: if you actually *play* the CD, yes |
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| 01:52.32 | greycat | rellik_: if you *rip* the audio and send it to the sound card and then tell the user you're playing the CD, then you don't |
| 01:52.51 | rellik_ | greycat: gotcha.. and that's what xmms is doing? |
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| 01:53.17 | antani | hi |
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| 01:53.27 | antani | i have a problem with my usb modem |
| 01:53.35 | antani | SAGEM FAST 800 |
| 01:53.39 | antani | do you know ? |
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| 01:53.59 | doub | antani: what exactly is your problem ? |
| 01:54.02 | greycat | rellik_: I use grip |
| 01:54.38 | cis | have someone got radeon 9600 graphick card? |
| 01:54.55 | sussudio | cis: why? are you doing a poll? |
| 01:54.58 | SuperGear | no way |
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| 01:55.13 | greycat | !tell cis about polls |
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| 01:55.16 | greycat | !tell cis about ati drivers |
| 01:55.28 | Croepha | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.45 | greycat | Croepha: after it's done, s/stable/testing/g |
| 01:55.59 | greycat | Croepha: /msg dpkg stable->testing |
| 01:56.26 | SuperGear | The sun is in your eyes, the sun is in your ears |
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| 01:56.51 | sussudio | this W32.beagle is one stupid worm. what is the point in continuously scanning the same IP if you don't get a response the first 5000 times? |
| 01:57.06 | vladkao | sussudio: flood ? |
| 01:57.07 | Justin | sussudio: persistence |
| 01:57.08 | abrotman | sussudio: dialup machines |
| 01:57.20 | sussudio | abrotman: no, cable on my own segment. |
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| 01:57.30 | greycat | sussudio: DHCP |
| 01:57.32 | abrotman | sussudio: well .. its not gonna just stop for you :) |
| 01:57.38 | sussudio | greycat: dhcp? |
| 01:57.41 | kyon | sussudio: the worm doesn't know that :) |
| 01:57.44 | yxa | text/shell editing: how do I add a same word at the beginning of every line? awk/sed/vim? |
| 01:57.46 | cis | sussudio: I have problem. I've just installed drivers for this card, but my X doesn't work (no screen. IO errror 104). |
| 01:57.49 | doub | greycat: there's a bit of black magic too, to tell debconf the installed system is testing or unstable (apt-setup asks debconf about this) |
| 01:57.49 | greycat | sussudio: there are people out there who turn off their computers. |
| 01:57.56 | greycat | sussudio: strange as that may seem to us normals, they do it. |
| 01:57.58 | sussudio | greycat: why would they do that? |
| 01:58.05 | greycat | sussudio: I don't know |
| 01:58.05 | doub | greycat: can't quite remember how i did this once though |
| 01:58.19 | abrotman | i turn mine off .. but its only a laptop |
| 01:58.28 | sussudio | greycat: i guess they don't care about uptime. |
| 01:58.52 | kyon | doub: just edit the sources after apt-setup has created the sources.list |
| 01:59.21 | bob2 | sussudio: be a real dick and start blackholing countries |
| 01:59.22 | vladkao | greycat: to save power ? |
| 01:59.34 | doub | kyon: i know this way, but maybe fixing it where apt-setup gets it in the first place can help |
| 01:59.44 | vladkao | sussudio: do you care about uptime ? |
| 02:00.02 | greycat | vladkao: I don't care about uptime per se, but I do care about the services I offer to the universe |
| 02:00.08 | sussudio | bob2: that could pose a bit of a problem, since they're on my own segment |
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| 02:00.45 | bob2 | sussudio: start with .nu |
| 02:00.53 | sussudio | bob2: NI! |
| 02:01.00 | vladkao | greycat: well, you offer something. i don't. and i care about energy. |
| 02:01.00 | abrotman | Justin: how well do those debs you made work? |
| 02:01.05 | cis | sussudio: I have problem. I've just installed drivers for this card, but my X doesn't work (no screen. IO errror 104). |
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| 02:01.27 | greycat | vladkao: if power consumption were that important to me, I'd be using Sokris boxes, Transmeta boxes, laptops, etc. |
| 02:01.28 | sussudio | cis: your problem is that you don't read what dpkg told you. |
| 02:01.33 | greycat | Soekris* |
| 02:01.48 | kyon | doub: i dont know, for me apt-setup (sarge installation) automatically asks whether or not i want stable/testing/unstable sources |
| 02:01.55 | LinusGates | can't startx: /usr/bin/X11/X no such file or directory |
| 02:02.04 | greycat | LinusGates: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 02:02.11 | LinusGates | k thanx |
| 02:02.20 | doub | kyon: i must have an older version then |
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| 02:02.48 | vladkao | ~aolify LinusGates |
| 02:03.02 | sussudio | if a PC uses 50 watts at 220 volts, would it use about 100 watts at 120v? |
| 02:03.38 | kyon | sussudio: W = V x Amps |
| 02:03.55 | sussudio | kyon: is that a yes? |
| 02:04.10 | smacnay | is there a good ncurses - console spreadsheet app like sc floating around? IS oleo a decent option? |
| 02:04.14 | rahul | sussudio: no |
| 02:04.17 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: no. It'd use (approximately) the same amount of power regardless. |
| 02:04.26 | rahul | sussudio: it will reduce the amperage at the higher voltage |
| 02:04.27 | CottonEye | sussudio, no, it would still want to draw the same wattage. |
| 02:04.27 | kyon | sussudio: watts is constant |
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| 02:04.39 | doub | sussudio: unlikely, because what's beside power always takes the same quantity of current |
| 02:04.40 | kyon | sussudio: only voltage and amperage change |
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| 02:04.58 | rahul | it might actually use less wattage at higher voltage... or maybe more since it's got to down-step it more |
| 02:05.00 | zignig | sussudio: W = V x A |
| 02:05.08 | jetscreamer | yeah there ya go |
| 02:05.12 | zinx | zignig: it's not that simple for AC |
| 02:05.13 | abrotman | mdh: signalos is a horrible theme |
| 02:05.24 | abrotman | its big .. and the busy is a matrix thing |
| 02:05.32 | rahul | W = V A cos(\theta) |
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| 02:05.43 | sussudio | mkay. i have a device that checks the wattage a device uses. my p2/266 1xHD 1xCDROM etc uses about 50 watts. someone was asking about this earlier. |
| 02:05.46 | zinx | AC wattage calculation is fairly involved |
| 02:05.53 | kyon | rahul: uhh.. whats theta then? |
| 02:05.54 | rahul | where theta is the phase angle between the V and A waves |
| 02:05.57 | sharth | yay for debian not borking on an upgrade to x4.3 :) |
| 02:06.02 | abrotman | sussudio: know how to calculate heat output? |
| 02:06.16 | rahul | abrotman: same as power input |
| 02:06.19 | sussudio | abrotman: i bet the people at intel know. |
| 02:06.19 | zinx | VA = V * A :p |
| 02:06.25 | dondelelcaro | rahul: isn't there an integral in there? |
| 02:06.31 | abrotman | rahul: same as power input? |
| 02:06.32 | zignig | zinx: I know, you've got phazing and histoises (SP?) , etc. |
| 02:06.32 | zignig | zinx: I luke that the US , uses 110 because the copper suppliers wanted to sell more copper. |
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| 02:06.36 | zignig | s/luke/like |
| 02:06.43 | rahul | dondelelcaro: as long as their both sine waves, I don't think you need one |
| 02:06.47 | rahul | they're |
| 02:06.50 | sussudio | you need more copper for 110? |
| 02:06.57 | dondelelcaro | zignig: no... it's primarily historical reasons... |
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| 02:07.20 | zignig | dondelelcaro: what reasons ? |
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| 02:07.41 | bluefox83 | is there a command that will let me see what is blocking my soundcard? |
| 02:07.41 | dondelelcaro | zignig: it's the same reason that we use 3 phase instead of 6 phase et al. |
| 02:07.48 | greycat | bluefox83: fuser, lsof |
| 02:07.59 | bluefox83 | both of them? |
| 02:08.03 | greycat | either of them |
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| 02:08.30 | zignig | dondelelcaro: I still like tesla's power transmission system. :) |
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| 02:08.36 | dondelelcaro | zignig: once you start down a path, there has to be a significant reason to switch... [and most US homes actually do have some 220V outlets] |
| 02:08.36 | sharth | bluefox83: lsof | grep "dsp" |
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| 02:08.51 | zignig | dondelelcaro: i didn't know that. |
| 02:08.54 | rahul | dondelelcaro: isn't the 220V from the 3-phase anyway? |
| 02:09.04 | dondelelcaro | rahul: yeah, it's two rails of 3-phase. |
| 02:09.13 | rahul | dondelelcaro: instead of using neighboring phases, you use the farthest apart ones |
| 02:09.49 | dondelelcaro | zignig: most dryers and many ranges use 220V |
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| 02:10.03 | rahul | dondelelcaro: and larger AC units |
| 02:10.07 | dondelelcaro | rahul: yerp... |
| 02:10.12 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: you can get 380 here for heavy equipment |
| 02:10.17 | bluefox83 | that was way too many results.. |
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| 02:10.25 | bluefox83 | i need *just* my soundcard |
| 02:10.29 | rahul | kyon: because computers use electricity |
| 02:10.35 | greycat | kyon: too many electrical engineering geeks in too small a space |
| 02:10.40 | bluefox83 | what is using just my soundcard |
| 02:10.44 | greycat | bluefox83: lsof /dev/dsp |
| 02:10.48 | rahul | greycat: kind of like a particle in a box? |
| 02:10.50 | zignig | dondelelcaro: 3 phase in .au is 440 ( ie do not lick ) :) |
| 02:11.06 | kyon | rahul: oh, well that clears it up. |
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| 02:11.15 | bluefox83 | greycat, are you sure? that' didn't return anything =( |
| 02:11.19 | sussudio | kyon: much like penicillin |
| 02:11.20 | zignig | rahul: or Shrodingers greycat ? |
| 02:11.23 | FieldySnuts | then nothing is using it |
| 02:11.31 | rahul | kyon: justifying our discussions about anal sex is a bit tougher |
| 02:11.31 | greycat | bluefox83: returns lots of xmms threads for me. |
| 02:11.36 | FieldySnuts | bluefox83: make sure /dev/dsp isn't a symlink. fi it is, lsof /dev/wherever/it/points |
| 02:11.38 | rahul | zignig: *rimshot* |
| 02:11.46 | greycat | rahul: too many people with penises and/or assholes in too small a space... |
| 02:11.52 | FieldySnuts | greycat: heh. |
| 02:11.58 | abrotman | and/or? |
| 02:12.01 | FieldySnuts | !start a browser war |
| 02:12.02 | dpkg | Opera is more useful than Firefox! |
| 02:12.04 | cis | sussudio: dpkg haven't returned any problem |
| 02:12.10 | sussudio | rahul: you missed someone saying anal earlier. |
| 02:12.13 | FieldySnuts | who is yxa? "-yxa- start is an unknown command." |
| 02:12.16 | rahul | greycat: I guess so |
| 02:12.16 | bluefox83 | ok, how do i make sure it's not a symlink? |
| 02:12.18 | dondelelcaro | zignig: that's what it is in .us until it hits the distribution transformer... |
| 02:12.29 | rahul | sussudio: I'm sure it got you all hot and bothered |
| 02:12.41 | sussudio | rahul: well, he got +q'ed |
| 02:12.44 | greycat | bluefox83: you have the same tools we do... start playing with them |
| 02:12.45 | rahul | well, maybe just hot, unless there were badgers mentioned |
| 02:12.54 | dondelelcaro | zignig: not that it really matters though... if you're using 3 phase, you can get just about any V from line voltage down... |
| 02:12.56 | FieldySnuts | !badter me |
| 02:12.59 | bluefox83 | greycat, i dunno what all of my tools are >.< |
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| 02:13.03 | FieldySnuts | -yxa- badter is an unknown command. |
| 02:13.07 | FieldySnuts | ok that's annoying |
| 02:13.08 | greycat | bluefox83: ps, lsof, ls |
| 02:13.14 | zignig | dondelelcaro: ah ok, although electocution is more likley to be fatal in .au |
| 02:13.19 | bluefox83 | ls -n /dev/dsp ? |
| 02:13.23 | sussudio | !mushroom |
| 02:13.28 | FieldySnuts | ls -l |
| 02:13.32 | bluefox83 | oh.. |
| 02:13.35 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: you get that crap from yxa too? |
| 02:13.39 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: uh huh. |
| 02:13.49 | greycat | !test |
| 02:13.49 | dpkg | No, greycat, you're not online any more. |
| 02:13.49 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: lame. pull some strings and get the ass bandit out of here. |
| 02:13.53 | rahul | yxa: you slutty whore |
| 02:13.58 | bluefox83 | it's pointing to /dev/dsp0 |
| 02:14.02 | FieldySnuts | that's the second time i've seen it |
| 02:14.03 | bluefox83 | what do i do about that :/ |
| 02:14.06 | FieldySnuts | bluefox83: lsof that then. |
| 02:14.10 | *** mode/#debian [+o greycat] by ChanServ |
| 02:14.20 | FieldySnuts | yxa has been here before and warned about that shit, guess it didn't learn |
| 02:14.22 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@bb-203-125-32.147.singnet.com.sg] by greycat |
| 02:14.29 | *** kick/#debian [yxa!rfc1413@wooledge.org] by greycat (greycat) |
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| 02:14.29 | FieldySnuts | .sg, figures |
| 02:14.33 | FieldySnuts | thanks. |
| 02:14.38 | FieldySnuts | er? |
| 02:14.40 | abrotman | whats .sg? |
| 02:14.44 | rahul | singapore |
| 02:14.46 | FieldySnuts | i forget |
| 02:14.52 | bluefox83 | hrm..no list.. |
| 02:14.53 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: heh |
| 02:14.55 | rahul | as sussudio realized |
| 02:14.57 | greycat | where did I screw up? |
| 02:14.59 | FieldySnuts | !fuck yxa |
| 02:15.04 | FieldySnuts | greycat: wrong hostname in the ban. |
| 02:15.06 | bluefox83 | i wonder if it means everything is using the wrong thing? |
| 02:15.07 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: so . you say .sg, figures .. and dont know what it is? |
| 02:15.09 | vladkao | greycat: 32.147 |
| 02:15.12 | *** mode/#debian [+o bob2] by ChanServ |
| 02:15.13 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@bb-203-125-32-147.singnet.com.sg] by bob2 |
| 02:15.13 | *** part/#debian yxa (~jkldfhgj@bb-203-125-32-147.singnet.com.sg) |
| 02:15.13 | *** mode/#debian [-o bob2] by bob2 |
| 02:15.14 | vladkao | 32-147 |
| 02:15.15 | sussudio | how did he rejoin after greycat banned his addy? |
| 02:15.30 | greycat | ah. |
| 02:15.30 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: . instead of - |
| 02:15.31 | FieldySnuts | anyway |
| 02:15.34 | *** mode/#debian [-o greycat] by greycat |
| 02:15.34 | bluefox83 | nope..still not working.. |
| 02:15.35 | rahul | sussudio: he didn't. bob2 did :) |
| 02:15.37 | sussudio | ah. |
| 02:15.46 | FieldySnuts | could make sure with *!*@*.s? |
| 02:15.47 | greycat | I didn't use the mouse because I had something lying next to it on the mouse pad, so I typed it :( |
| 02:15.59 | FieldySnuts | covers certain eurotrasher countries, too (darn) |
| 02:16.00 | helix | er |
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| 02:16.07 | dondelelcaro | zignig: actually, it doesn't always work that way... 220V sometimes has enough kick to blow you off the connection, wereas 110V will often just keep you sitting there... |
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| 02:16.27 | rahul | helix: just a mention of anal sex, that's all |
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| 02:16.38 | FieldySnuts | again. |
| 02:16.38 | rahul | helix: but it's good to know your instincts are still working |
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| 02:16.45 | sharth | sg == singapore. |
| 02:16.49 | helix | bah |
| 02:16.58 | FieldySnuts | sharth: sharth == slow. |
| 02:17.04 | sharth | usually :) |
| 02:17.05 | rahul | I met 4 chicks from Indy today on the subway |
| 02:17.12 | FieldySnuts | is that a goodt hing |
| 02:17.17 | Cire | what do I need to install a AVM Fritz ISDN Card (module params?, module isdn/isdn ?) |
| 02:17.22 | rahul | two of them were good looking :P |
| 02:17.22 | sharth | FieldySnuts: not sure yet |
| 02:17.23 | abrotman | india? |
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| 02:17.25 | mith | Anyone happen to know offhand if qt3 is a valid option for firefox's --enable-default-toolkit ? |
| 02:17.27 | rahul | heh |
| 02:17.29 | abrotman | or indianapolis? |
| 02:17.30 | rahul | Indiannapolis |
| 02:17.31 | helix | rahul: indy, like the computer? |
| 02:17.33 | helix | oh |
| 02:17.34 | mith | rahul: ! |
| 02:17.36 | zignig | dondelelcaro: bzzzzzt , I was electocuted by a _big_ arc welder once, that was very unpleasent. |
| 02:17.36 | rahul | helix: that, too |
| 02:17.39 | rahul | mith: ; |
| 02:17.39 | sussudio | Cire: try a howto or the german debian channel. |
| 02:17.45 | abrotman | zignig: wussy :) |
| 02:17.49 | helix | sweet |
| 02:17.50 | FieldySnuts | i got blown off a 440 box, don't do that. |
| 02:17.58 | FieldySnuts | I think i remember 0.00000001 seconds of it |
| 02:17.59 | Cire | sussudio: where can I find the german debian chanell? |
| 02:18.00 | xolotl | hey, I have apache2, mysql and php4 running on my system, but for some reason all php scripts which use any of the mysql_ functions are bailing out. did anyone have a similar problem? missing package? |
| 02:18.03 | sussudio | !german |
| 02:18.03 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, german is #debian.de - deutschsprachige Debian-Hilfe gibt es in #debian.de |
| 02:18.08 | zignig | abrotman: wussy !!!! , I spoze it was only 4 volts. |
| 02:18.09 | Cire | thanks |
| 02:18.10 | helix | greycat certainly had a nice quit message |
| 02:18.12 | peterS | Cire: isn't it called 'avm_a1' or something? |
| 02:18.19 | FieldySnuts | worst part was i don't remember what caused it, and no one saw it happen |
| 02:18.21 | peterS | *doh* - cire left |
| 02:18.22 | rahul | I took a picure of them (actually 4, one for each of their cameras) standing in front of the Bull's ass |
| 02:18.25 | abrotman | zignig: ive done the finger across the plug thing |
| 02:18.26 | FieldySnuts | just BBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOM |
| 02:18.37 | zignig | abrotman: although my arm didn't work for about 6 hours. |
| 02:18.37 | rahul | too bad its huge nuts were obsured by them |
| 02:18.42 | helix | oh my |
| 02:18.42 | FieldySnuts | heh! |
| 02:18.58 | rahul | there was some tour group or something standing in front of the bull |
| 02:19.25 | FieldySnuts | were you sexually aroused |
| 02:19.29 | rahul | it was actually quite an adventure |
| 02:19.37 | rahul | FieldySnuts: the bull probably was. :P |
| 02:19.40 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:19.51 | rahul | but I didn't feel to make sure. |
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| 02:20.07 | rahul | oh and this is the bronze bull at the bottom of broadway |
| 02:20.16 | rahul | not a real live man-cow :P |
| 02:20.20 | bob2 | helix: TAKE ME OUT WITH THE FADER |
| 02:20.45 | FieldySnuts | xfce is nice |
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| 02:20.53 | rahul | oh, and the cutest one of the bunch took a picture of me with the other 3 girls for her own camera |
| 02:21.00 | dondelelcaro | rahul: heh. I always wondered where the bear was... |
| 02:21.11 | debian | helix: http://booska.as2.net/muji.swf |
| 02:21.18 | rahul | dondelelcaro: it's a couple blocks east |
| 02:21.24 | FieldySnuts | !abuse shockwve |
| 02:21.25 | rahul | dondelelcaro: it's a little cuddly-looking bear |
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| 02:21.30 | dondelelcaro | rahul: ah. that's right... I always seem to miss it though... |
| 02:21.31 | helix | debian: no flash for me |
| 02:21.36 | debian | helix: k |
| 02:21.37 | rahul | dondelelcaro: I keep forgetting where it is |
| 02:21.42 | rahul | helix: flash is in debian |
| 02:21.49 | FieldySnuts | that's not the point, flash sucks |
| 02:21.50 | fooz | rahul, hi |
| 02:21.51 | helix | rahul: yeah, it crashes my computer |
| 02:21.53 | dondelelcaro | swfplayer bayebee |
| 02:21.54 | helix | nothx |
| 02:22.02 | rahul | helix: nasty |
| 02:22.05 | rahul | zoof: ho |
| 02:22.05 | peterS | rahul: what app do you use? |
| 02:22.06 | FieldySnuts | plus macromedia likes to use the DMCA and friends. f em. |
| 02:22.11 | helix | rahul: yeah, i named it 'rahul' |
| 02:22.12 | rahul | peterS: what what app? |
| 02:22.19 | peterS | rahul: I've not kept track of the various free flash players |
| 02:22.19 | rahul | helix: the flash plugin? |
| 02:22.23 | peterS | rahul: so do any of them actually work? |
| 02:22.27 | rahul | peterS: flashplugin.deb, I think |
| 02:22.30 | rahul | peterS: works for me |
| 02:22.31 | Spencer_ | Is there a graphical interface to configure network settings? I want to use static IP instead of DHCP, and then set the static IP. |
| 02:22.38 | helix | peterS: sure they work |
| 02:22.39 | dondelelcaro | peterS: swfplayer sort of works... |
| 02:22.40 | rahul | peterS: or maybe I have macromedia's or something |
| 02:22.55 | peterS | rahul: yeah, last I heard, macromedia's still wasn't free software |
| 02:22.55 | FieldySnuts | in the past I didn't mind flash, but then came the flash ads. i can't stand not being able to tell them to not animate at all, that's BS, not to mention increasing a pages load time. |
| 02:23.05 | rahul | Spencer_: sure, your favorite text editor |
| 02:23.22 | rahul | peterS: ok. |
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| 02:23.24 | peterS | dondelelcaro: now that I have a computer that can handle eye candy, maybe I'll try swfplayer |
| 02:23.32 | Spencer_ | rahul: Heh. :P |
| 02:23.38 | Spencer_ | rahul: What file do I need to edit? |
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| 02:23.41 | helix | peterS: you can watch the badgers |
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| 02:23.46 | peterS | dondelelcaro: (my last computer ... I couldn't bear to make it do things like that. it would just give me this *look*...) |
| 02:23.47 | rahul | Spencer_: do you really want to use something MORE complicated? man 5 interfaces. it's simple. |
| 02:23.49 | peterS | helix: joy |
| 02:23.58 | FieldySnuts | CowboyNeal is an MSU male cheerleader |
| 02:24.00 | helix | 2. that which brings joy or happiness |
| 02:24.01 | helix | err |
| 02:24.04 | Spencer_ | rahul: Ah. Thanks a lot. |
| 02:24.06 | helix | max is chasing my cursor again |
| 02:24.06 | peterS | helix: hehehe |
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| 02:24.15 | FieldySnuts | helix: cat? |
| 02:24.16 | abrotman | helix: max==cat? |
| 02:24.19 | helix | yeah |
| 02:24.23 | FieldySnuts | cool |
| 02:24.25 | helix | s/cat/the cutest cat EVER/ |
| 02:24.28 | rahul | helix's felix. |
| 02:24.29 | peterS | helix: umm. |
| 02:24.32 | abrotman | helix: i guess thats better than max==b/f :) |
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| 02:24.33 | FieldySnuts | i've a maine coon, she rules |
| 02:24.40 | abrotman | they shed |
| 02:24.42 | abrotman | or wiat |
| 02:24.45 | abrotman | do they not .. |
| 02:24.48 | mephisto | last time somebody gave me a bot command for kernel update ... could you give me this again ? |
| 02:24.50 | FieldySnuts | cats? big time |
| 02:24.56 | abrotman | i can't remember . we had two cats at the same time .. one was coon .. one was not |
| 02:24.58 | FieldySnuts | it's just fur who cares, vacuum. |
| 02:25.02 | mith | are there any frame-buffer web browser that'll display images? |
| 02:25.09 | FieldySnuts | links can do it, but i've not done it |
| 02:25.14 | akk | Maine coons are nice. I had one sit on my lap for a whole evening, and I wasn't allergic at all. |
| 02:25.15 | rahul | abrotman: I could see her keeping men like that around for her own nefarious purposes |
| 02:25.15 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: cats dont like to be vacuumed |
| 02:25.15 | FieldySnuts | i stay away from frame buffer it blows. |
| 02:25.16 | mith | awsome |
| 02:25.26 | mith | who's max? |
| 02:25.30 | abrotman | cat |
| 02:25.31 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: i didn't mean that, but mine will let me it's funny. and it's a big vacuum too heh |
| 02:25.39 | mith | and why would turning a monitor off drive him insane? |
| 02:25.49 | FieldySnuts | learn to follow conversations, rubberneck |
| 02:25.50 | rahul | ok, now everyone use lots of lines so that scrolls out of helix's window before she turns the moniutor back on |
| 02:25.57 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:26.02 | rahul | FieldySnuts: no, he's a bona fide redneck |
| 02:26.09 | mith | I'm not a redneck |
| 02:26.10 | mith | =( |
| 02:26.15 | mith | I don't drive a truck |
| 02:26.15 | sussudio | !mith mith |
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| 02:26.18 | mith | or have an accent |
| 02:26.24 | mith | therefore, I can't be a redneck |
| 02:26.25 | FieldySnuts | <twang>Hey. my neck's not red. It's white!</twang> |
| 02:26.27 | rahul | he doesn't even know where syracuse is or where the city is |
| 02:26.38 | rahul | mith: you can't AFFORD a truck |
| 02:26.42 | abrotman | syracuse means oyu're a redneck? |
| 02:26.43 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:26.46 | mith | I wouldn't drive one if I could, heh |
| 02:26.47 | rahul | that makes you even MORE of a redneck |
| 02:26.57 | abrotman | rahul: id like to take you where i grew up |
| 02:27.05 | helix | mith: max (my cat) chases the cursor, so when i turn the monitor off, he looks all over the place for it |
| 02:27.05 | mith | I'll be getting a honda civic/accord once I have $2k |
| 02:27.06 | FieldySnuts | dog will hunt! heh heh heh! |
| 02:27.07 | rahul | abrotman: no thanks :P |
| 02:27.21 | bluefox83 | hey, do you have to restart X when you add a user to audio? |
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| 02:27.36 | mith | bluefox83: why would you? |
| 02:27.37 | peterS | helix: find a 1600x1200 picture of some ugly bulldog, for your backdrop |
| 02:27.38 | FieldySnuts | if you're that user, you have to fully log out anyway, so yeah |
| 02:27.40 | bluefox83 | no idea.. |
| 02:27.41 | sussudio | helix: buy a laserpointer |
| 02:27.42 | fooz | mith, r1c3 |
| 02:27.45 | abrotman | rahul: i could take you were my mom lives in maine .. big burly men who drive blue '83 chevy pickups with body putty :) |
| 02:27.46 | bluefox83 | ok.. |
| 02:27.50 | helix | sussudio: i've been meaning too |
| 02:27.53 | helix | s/too/to/ |
| 02:27.57 | bluefox83 | should i restart X or reboot? |
| 02:28.01 | helix | peterS: ha, my cats are not scared of dogs. |
| 02:28.01 | rahul | abrotman: heh. I'll stick to Acadia. |
| 02:28.06 | mith | fooz: no ... just a dependable car, we're talking like an 89-93 civic/accord, not a ricer |
| 02:28.08 | abrotman | rahul: shes not far |
| 02:28.11 | helix | bluefox83: just logout |
| 02:28.14 | dondelelcaro | helix: what about hyenas? |
| 02:28.15 | bluefox83 | okey |
| 02:28.15 | peterS | helix: then find a 1600x1200 picture of a badger |
| 02:28.15 | fooz | mith, heh |
| 02:28.17 | FieldySnuts | my cat's a tough one, used to chase the mean father outside away |
| 02:28.17 | bluefox83 | brb |
| 02:28.29 | rahul | abrotman: I could imagine that there are some third-world towns around there, yeah |
| 02:28.32 | abrotman | rahul: chances are ... you've driven less than a mile from her house |
| 02:28.33 | helix | peterS: how about you just give me a 1600x1200 pic of yourself |
| 02:28.41 | mith | anyways, I'm going to go pick up my drugs now. |
| 02:28.43 | helix | peterS: the beard will give them nightmares ;) |
| 02:28.49 | abrotman | if you've been to acadia |
| 02:28.52 | peterS | helix: well, it would scare the cats away, for sure, but you'd have to look at it all day too |
| 02:29.06 | helix | peterS: you've seen my backgrounds - come on now. |
| 02:29.15 | helix | i can handle all kinds of visual assault |
| 02:29.19 | gravity | lol |
| 02:29.24 | peterS | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.24 | rahul | helix: what about his ass? |
| 02:29.25 | peterS | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.28 | peterS | well, there is that |
| 02:29.31 | debian | DOH |
| 02:29.34 | vladkao | peterS: i saw it ;) |
| 02:29.34 | FieldySnuts | most of my stuff is 1600x1200, find something. nature area might work. http://gerbil.fire-eyes.dynup.net:89/gal/albums.php |
| 02:29.35 | helix | hahaha |
| 02:29.36 | rahul | that would remind you of all apsects of #debian all the time |
| 02:29.54 | rahul | could you handle THAT? |
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| 02:30.20 | FieldySnuts | hrm. this is a big channel, i kinda regret dumping that now. be nice. |
| 02:30.55 | ng101 | whats the difference between executing a shell script using sh or ./ or . ./ |
| 02:30.57 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: i click very fast :) |
| 02:31.01 | peterS | sussudio: your puny meeps are no match for my superior grasshopper costume |
| 02:31.07 | rahul | ng101: . ./ doesn't start a new process |
| 02:31.22 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: that system doesn't :P |
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| 02:31.29 | helix | where is fooz? why haven't i seen talk of lisp yet? rahul is here, after all |
| 02:31.31 | rahul | ng101: ./ doesn't execute a shell script. it executes the file using whatever binary loader is defined for that file's signature in the kernel |
| 02:31.42 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: it died |
| 02:31.43 | peterS | zoof was around earlier |
| 02:31.46 | rahul | helix: zoof is being a fooz |
| 02:31.46 | abrotman | :) |
| 02:31.47 | fooz | huh? |
| 02:31.50 | helix | ah |
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| 02:31.59 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: too many people hitting it, i bet in 5 minutes it'll be a lot better |
| 02:32.00 | helix | (()(()(()())))(()())) |
| 02:32.04 | rahul | (although that's no excuse) |
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| 02:32.08 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: im joking |
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| 02:32.15 | peterS | helix: watch your language |
| 02:32.15 | rahul | helix: Java code looks like that |
| 02:32.43 | FieldySnuts | heh |
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| 02:32.43 | FieldySnuts | ~penixstrike comcast |
| 02:32.45 | apt | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking comcast to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 02:32.45 | smacnay | oh my goodness. There are a LOT of updates in Sarge/testing right now. |
| 02:32.45 | zogssh | anyone know a fix for the evolution/unstable crash? |
| 02:32.45 | rahul | it's truely horrifying how many parens I end up using in the code I write for work. |
| 02:32.45 | fooz | gee, NFS over USB networking sucks |
| 02:32.46 | kyon | rahul: you mean lisp |
| 02:32.49 | peterS | rahul: I think you just use them out of habit |
| 02:32.53 | abrotman | smacnay: xf4.3 went in |
| 02:32.54 | rahul | kyon: hah |
| 02:33.00 | FieldySnuts | !start an mua war |
| 02:33.00 | rahul | peterS: no, they're mostly required |
| 02:33.00 | dpkg | mutt rules |
| 02:33.04 | FieldySnuts | heh! |
| 02:33.05 | peterS | rahul: rather than bother to learn the precedence rules (: |
| 02:33.06 | smacnay | abrotman: I hope that all works when I finish an update. |
| 02:33.12 | Cool906 | tried installing woody onto AMD K6-2 400Mhz 64MB RAM, S3 Trio 3D/2X AGP. I only manage to get past the boot prompt and it gave me "unable to handle kernel paging request". Hints please. |
| 02:33.15 | rahul | peterS: well, a few are because of that |
| 02:33.17 | abrotman | smacnay: mine did .. but i was already on 4.3 |
| 02:33.17 | ng101 | rahul, when is it reqd to execute using . ./ |
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| 02:33.24 | peterS | FieldySnuts: that is soooo clever and original. how's it working out for you? |
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| 02:33.32 | smacnay | abrotman: I can live without X. |
| 02:33.33 | rahul | peterS: and then you break the code because you change one operator and the structure of the code changes :\ |
| 02:33.45 | FieldySnuts | peterS: heh. you like that huh? i ripped it off from Fight Club. |
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| 02:33.48 | smacnay | abrotman: not sure how my nvidia stuff will work but I will not worry. |
| 02:33.49 | peterS | rahul: if you're changing operators, you're likely to already be breaking the algorithm (: |
| 02:33.50 | mephisto | hi all |
| 02:33.55 | rahul | ng101: when you want to affect the environment in the shell process you are using right now |
| 02:33.57 | abrotman | smacnay: my glx even still works |
| 02:34.04 | peterS | FieldySnuts: oh, ripping lines off from Fight Club. how ... cerebral |
| 02:34.07 | rahul | peterS: unless it's due to a change in the spec. |
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| 02:34.11 | ng101 | rahul, thanks |
| 02:34.19 | FieldySnuts | peterS: whatever that means |
| 02:34.24 | bluefox83 | ok, i keep having the same problem |
| 02:34.27 | peterS | FieldySnuts: that says it all (: |
| 02:34.32 | mephisto | i need you help with that bot inhere |
| 02:34.33 | bluefox83 | a font rendering problem i think.. |
| 02:34.36 | FieldySnuts | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137523/quotes |
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| 02:34.37 | FieldySnuts | have fun, the line is somewhere on that page |
| 02:35.04 | bluefox83 | after i shut down X it wouldn't start back up again |
| 02:35.19 | FieldySnuts | don't shut it down then |
| 02:35.20 | rahul | peterS: eh? where did FieldySnuts make a ref to fight club? |
| 02:35.34 | bluefox83 | i can't start iti anymore in the 6.2.3 kernel |
| 02:35.35 | mephisto | sombody told me a bot command which gave me the apt-get line to update to a kernel which supports iptables .. i need it again |
| 02:35.38 | peterS | rahul: he says he did. I didn't really care for Fight Club, so I don't remember the line |
| 02:35.42 | bluefox83 | or 6.2.4 |
| 02:35.47 | rahul | peterS: psht. Buddhism is cool. |
| 02:35.50 | bluefox83 | or whatever kernel it is |
| 02:35.57 | bluefox83 | eh/... |
| 02:36.01 | helix | peterS: fyi, you can't be in your 20's and not worship chuck palahniuk |
| 02:36.02 | bluefox83 | 2.6.3 |
| 02:36.06 | bluefox83 | sorry..lol |
| 02:36.09 | helix | it means the universe is b0rked |
| 02:36.09 | gravity | helix: True enough |
| 02:36.22 | peterS | helix: right. just like I can't be in my 20s and not be a raving leftist |
| 02:36.28 | rahul | who is chuck pahlahulalala? |
| 02:36.30 | bucky | FieldySnuts, http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushturbanator.htm |
| 02:36.30 | helix | yeah, that too |
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| 02:36.35 | helix | rahul: he wrote fight club |
| 02:36.35 | FieldySnuts | bucky: hi. |
| 02:36.39 | rahul | helix: ah |
| 02:36.40 | bucky | heya |
| 02:36.41 | helix | rahul: err, it was a book before a movie |
| 02:36.43 | mephisto | could you plz help |
| 02:36.47 | fooz | grr debconf pisses me off |
| 02:36.47 | peterS | helix: just goes to show, I really am as old as I feel |
| 02:36.53 | bluefox83 | brb i'ma cat the contents of the error log into a regular file where i can find it |
| 02:36.57 | Cool906 | is Windows better than Linux? I can't install debian on a machine where Windows 98 is running perfectly well. |
| 02:37.06 | mephisto | lol |
| 02:37.11 | rahul | peterS: being a raving leftist and liking fight club seem to be at odds to me |
| 02:37.12 | helix | peterS: well, you also live in kansas which, afaik, seceded from the universe a long time ago |
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| 02:37.23 | Cool906 | i am serious. |
| 02:37.24 | rahul | helix: but not before Texas |
| 02:37.26 | peterS | rahul: the two attributes seem about equally sensible, to me |
| 02:37.33 | zinx | Cool906: then clearly Windows is better on that machine |
| 02:37.44 | rahul | peterS: have you studied Buddhism? |
| 02:37.47 | abrotman | or get a different video card |
| 02:37.51 | peterS | rahul: no, I really haven't |
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| 02:38.00 | peterS | rahul: I used to listen to Nirvana a lot, though |
| 02:38.07 | zinx | Cool906: if you have to ask, it generally doesn't matter. use the best tool for the job, and if both are the same, use whichever you want to use. |
| 02:38.09 | FieldySnuts | where do people get off going somewhere and asking a very biased group what is better |
| 02:38.10 | rahul | peterS: well, I guess someone from Kansas wouldn't care about these things, usually :) |
| 02:38.19 | FieldySnuts | i wonder what answer you'll get you stupid f*ck |
| 02:38.26 | rahul | peterS: heh |
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| 02:38.44 | FieldySnuts | i don't know about politics and all that junk, i just dug the movie. a lot. |
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| 02:38.56 | Cool906 | dats a pretty acceptable comment. but u see i was thinking a while back that where windows can't go linux can. |
| 02:38.56 | peterS | well, on the whole, Fight Club was a lot more pretentious than most leftists |
| 02:39.00 | helix | FieldySnuts: yeah, read the rest of palahniuk's work |
| 02:39.09 | sussudio | peterS: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/meepcam.jpg < fear teh meep. |
| 02:39.18 | FieldySnuts | i just don't care about politics. it's a damn book/movie, get over it |
| 02:39.21 | rahul | akk: being pretty far left by modern standards would mean that you're a hard-core communist |
| 02:39.22 | DeVeRaS | greatings and salutations |
| 02:39.23 | FieldySnuts | but i might do that. |
| 02:39.28 | peterS | sussudio: I'm trembling |
| 02:39.33 | rahul | akk: at least my modern American standards |
| 02:39.37 | helix | not-so-greatings and salutations back atcha |
| 02:39.50 | rahul | peterS: Fight club actually wasn't all that pretentious |
| 02:39.58 | helix | peterS: meep is about this big |--------| (not to scale) |
| 02:40.03 | sussudio | rahul: you forgot rule #1. |
| 02:40.07 | peterS | rahul: dunno, I didn't read the book. just saw the movie. and that was nothing if not pretentious |
| 02:40.12 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: heh. |
| 02:40.18 | rahul | peterS: eh, strange interpretation |
| 02:40.41 | peterS | rahul: maybe the book is less so. it probably is, since it's lacking Brad Pitt |
| 02:40.41 | helix | yum |
| 02:40.41 | nvz | did anyone happen to catch my quit message about 6hrs ago? |
| 02:40.41 | smacnay | so I assume that topic announce about sysvinit is for blokes like me that are having breaks on a dist-upgrade in Sarge. |
| 02:40.41 | bucky | how many people are just debian tourists ? |
| 02:40.48 | bucky | they're just toursits |
| 02:40.53 | bluefox83 | hey, can some of you people look in #flood and tell me what the stuff i just pasted in there mean? |
| 02:40.53 | rahul | peterS: Brad Pitt did a wonderful job getting the "guru" nature across. |
| 02:40.56 | bluefox83 | *means |
| 02:40.59 | helix | bucky: what do you mean? |
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| 02:41.05 | sussudio | !confuse helix |
| 02:41.06 | dpkg | no, how was their pants tomorrow, helix ? by order of the dictatorship of swaziland with extra cream |
| 02:41.07 | helix | rahul: also, the "babe" nature |
| 02:41.07 | peterS | nvz: [Read error: 110 |
| 02:41.08 | peterS | (Connection timed out)] |
| 02:41.14 | bucky | helix, like that chick in fight club |
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| 02:41.25 | helix | bucky: she was a tourist? |
| 02:41.28 | helix | -_- |
| 02:41.35 | FieldySnuts | sport fucking heh |
| 02:41.41 | rahul | helix: when it came to support groups, she wasw |
| 02:41.45 | Cool906 | Should woody run on an AMD K6-2 400Mhz 64MB RAM, S3 Trio 3D/2X AGP. I only manage to get past the boot prompt and it gave me "unable to handle kernel paging request". Hints please. |
| 02:41.55 | bucky | helix she went to all those 12 step meeting and she wasn't even an addict or anything |
| 02:42.10 | helix | bucky: ah, i understand |
| 02:42.16 | nvz | peterS: hmm.. I just turned on my monitor and the console was blank (had it set to -blank 0) and my screen wasnt running, seems the system restarted at about 3:51pm roughly 6hrs ago |
| 02:42.18 | bluefox83 | can i get some help in #flood please? |
| 02:42.26 | zarchne | Cool906: it should run... |
| 02:42.34 | vladkao | Cool906: get the right kernel |
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| 02:42.44 | helix | sussudio: i want a meep gallery |
| 02:42.46 | peterS | nvz: the 'connection timed out' was at 21:07 UTC, which was 5 and a half hours ago |
| 02:42.59 | sussudio | helix: =:-B |
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| 02:43.14 | bluefox83 | :( |
| 02:43.14 | peterS | sussudio: is that a harelip emoticon? |
| 02:43.18 | helix | sussudio: i have a max, vladi and rolling kitty gallery. it's only fair. |
| 02:43.29 | bluefox83 | man..why wont anyone help me :( |
| 02:43.35 | sussudio | peterS: bunnies |
| 02:43.41 | peterS | sussudio: right, right |
| 02:43.46 | nvz | peterS: seems it timed out before the reboot by about 20min then |
| 02:43.48 | peterS | ps: -ef |
| 02:43.54 | FieldySnuts | !helixsmite sussudio |
| 02:44.01 | rahul | -ef is soo... sysv |
| 02:44.02 | Cool906 | i already tried linux, bf24 ... what other kernel vladkao? |
| 02:44.07 | nvz | o_O |
| 02:44.09 | rahul | and it forbids you from using f |
| 02:44.25 | rahul | ps axf is what the cool kids use. |
| 02:44.41 | peterS | rahul: what's the bsd option for 'specific user'? |
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| 02:44.48 | jeriko | hi |
| 02:44.48 | peterS | rahul: I couldn't find it on a bsd box once |
| 02:45.00 | peterS | rahul: you know, like -u username |
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| 02:45.07 | jeriko | anyones using xfce here? i was wondering if its possible to change the font in xffm |
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| 02:45.40 | rellik_ | I downloaded the apache source... where's a standard place to extract that kinda thing to? |
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| 02:45.47 | vladkao | rahul: ps fax sounds better :) |
| 02:45.48 | ps | peterS . . . . . all processes . . . . . =] |
| 02:45.51 | peterS | rellik_: there's no standard |
| 02:46.02 | peterS | rellik_: I created a /usr/src/debian for that sort of thing |
| 02:46.12 | peterS | rellik_: then: 'cd /usr/src/debian; apt-get source apache2' |
| 02:46.27 | smacnay | hmm, dpkg --force-all -i sysvinit does not seem to work after the --force-all --remove was run. |
| 02:46.31 | rellik_ | peterS: cool |
| 02:46.38 | peterS | ps: yeah, no need to flood this channel (: |
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| 02:47.12 | bluefox83 | did i log in as root again or something? no one seems to want to help me =( |
| 02:47.27 | peterS | bluefox83: you're not talking about Fight Club. everyone tuned you out |
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