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| 11:03.43 | gnugr | ,versions approx |
| 11:03.44 | judd | Package approx on i386 -- lenny: 3.3.0; lenny-backports: 4.1-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 4.5-1+squeeze1; sid: 5.1-1; wheezy: 5.1-1 |
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| 16:46.39 | gnugr | aeolianfire:kalispera |
| 16:47.34 | aeolianfire | gnugr: kalispera :) tha ithela na kano mia erotisi alla den ksero an mpori kapios apo edo na me boithisi |
| 16:48.53 | aeolianfire | psaxno na bro ena atomo me kales gnosis apo debian server gia merikes texnikes erotisis pano se ena project poy thelo na ksekiniso |
| 16:55.40 | gnugr | κανε Ïην εÏÏÏηÏη και κάÏÎ¿Î¹Î¿Ï Î¸Î± ξÎÏει να βοηθήÏει |
| 17:11.07 | gnugr | aeolianfire: ti project 8eleis v'anevaseis se server? |
| 17:12.17 | aeolianfire | thelome na stisoume mia Web TV me 24 playlist streamin kai dinatotita live straming |
| 17:13.58 | aeolianfire | psaxno na bro pos mporis na gini (proipothesis ... programmata ktl) kai texnika xaraktiristika |
| 17:15.20 | gnugr | Yparxoun gia streaming eidika se oles sxedon tis etairies pou noikiazoun servers |
| 17:15.47 | gnugr | einai dedicated streaming server |
| 17:16.47 | gnugr | kai fysika exoun live streaning |
| 17:17.11 | gnugr | pou apo to upload exartatai kai to buffering |
| 17:18.48 | aeolianfire | to olo project exei na kani me mmia webtv me 24/7 roi programmatos oppote to buffering tha prepi na einai megalo |
| 17:21.04 | gnugr | gia pio fthna pantws Yparxoun sth USA/texas state,me megalh mnhmh |
| 17:21.22 | gnugr | kai kalo upload |
| 17:22.55 | gnugr | ri3e mia matia s'ena eurwpaiko OVH.com |
| 17:23.19 | aeolianfire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.24 | gnugr | einai sxedon etoimo |
| 17:25.51 | gnugr | prepei na exeis kai gnwseis gia to teleiopoihseis |
| 17:26.12 | gnugr | ri3e mia matia edw : http://whois.pho.to/ovh_live_streaming.html |
| 17:27.13 | gnugr | e3artatai mallon apo to poso kalo einai to control panel |
| 17:27.48 | aeolianfire | basiko :) |
| 17:29.19 | gnugr | ean dei o markos_ isws sou pei kati parapanw, 3erei pio polla gia servers kai USA |
| 17:29.48 | aeolianfire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.15 | gnugr | apo metapwlisi 8a sas vgei polla apo Ellada |
| 17:32.31 | gnugr | kallytera apo e3wteriko |
| 17:34.37 | gnugr | 20% toulaxiston pio akriva kai prepei na moirasoun to upload |
| 17:35.03 | markos_ | ? |
| 17:35.42 | gnugr | markos_: o aeolianfire rwtaei gia TV streaming server |
| 17:35.54 | markos_ | no idea, alla 2 sxolia |
| 17:36.20 | markos_ | to kalutero apo apopsis katavomns bandwidth eivai va exete server stnv ellada, alla eivai to pio akribo |
| 17:36.35 | markos_ | diaforetika bres se kamia xwra pou va exei kalo connection me tous basikous isp stnv ellada |
| 17:36.46 | markos_ | px n otenet exei kalo connection me eurwpn |
| 17:36.50 | markos_ | n hol omws oxi kai toso |
| 17:38.05 | gnugr | poso peripou Ypologizeis gia TV live streaming? |
| 17:38.08 | aeolianfire | to kostos auti tin stigmi den einai to thema pou me endiaferi .... milame gia mia dimiourgia enos kanaliou aplos den tha ekpempi stin TV alla mesa apo to WEB |
| 17:39.26 | aeolianfire | to live streaming gia ton proto kairo mpori na einai 3-5 wriees ekpompes tin ebdomada |
| 17:39.41 | aeolianfire | pou meta mpori na auksithoun |
| 17:40.33 | gnugr | me kalo bandwidth isws vreite me 300-350 eu/month |
| 17:41.30 | aeolianfire | ellada ? |
| 17:42.18 | gnugr | nai |
| 17:42.51 | aeolianfire | mipos mporis na mou protinis kati ? |
| 17:42.57 | aeolianfire | kapou na koitakso |
| 17:43.14 | gnugr | 8a rwthsw |
| 17:43.41 | gnugr | twra den exw tipota sta yp'opsin |
| 17:45.53 | aeolianfire | apo thema programmaton ti ginete se auti tin periptosi ? ta egkathisto ego h einai etimo kai aplos sindeome |
| 17:46.36 | gnugr | ayto mallon to kanonizei to CP |
| 17:46.42 | gnugr | control panel |
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| 18:36.29 | markos_ | aeolianfire, av milas gia kavoviko kavali online, tote sigoura 8a xreiasteis kati parapavw apo 1 server |
| 18:36.50 | aeolianfire | dld ? |
| 18:36.50 | markos_ | 8es eva oloklnro infrastructure kai stnmevo topika stnv ellada |
| 18:37.09 | markos_ | dnladn, prepei va apavtnseis av 8a ekpempeis multicast n unicast? |
| 18:37.32 | markos_ | 8a apeu8uvesai se posous (max) xrnstes tautoxrova? |
| 18:37.43 | markos_ | milas gia 100 users online tautoxrova? 1000? 10000 ? |
| 18:38.25 | markos_ | av eivai gia 100-1000 tote to unicast streaming -opws givetai twra me ola ta flash streams, eivai ok, diaforetika 8es polu barbates upodomes |
| 18:38.33 | aeolianfire | as ksekinisoume me 2000+ |
| 18:38.48 | markos_ | 2ov, ti poiotnta stream 8a exeis? dvd? hd? 480p/720p/1080p? |
| 18:38.55 | markos_ | kai ti bitrate? |
| 18:39.13 | markos_ | o 1 server *apokleietai* va mporei va xtupnsei 2000 users akomn kai se unicast |
| 18:39.25 | markos_ | ektos av pas kai skaseis 30-40k se kava ktnvos |
| 18:39.37 | markos_ | 8es sobaro infrastructure |
| 18:39.54 | aeolianfire | edo ellada mpori na gini kati tetio ? |
| 18:39.54 | markos_ | me 1 server, avte va mporeis va kaveis streaming se 100-200 |
| 18:39.58 | markos_ | vai fusika kai mporei |
| 18:40.36 | markos_ | alla to 8ema eivai av 8es va epevduseis to kefalaio gia kati tetoio |
| 18:40.50 | markos_ | mporeis va kaveis eva peirama eva pilotiko me 1 server, |
| 18:41.36 | markos_ | alla sigoura auto molis 8a arxisei va avebaivei o ari8mos twv xrnstwv 8a kolnsei kai de bgazei error se parapavw apo 100-200 users |
| 18:41.49 | markos_ | dnladn mnv kaveis to la8os kai to diafnmiseis pros ta e3w me movo 1 server :) |
| 18:42.35 | aeolianfire | to olo project tha paei me xorigous (an pane kala ta pragmata ) opote mpori na piasi kai kales times. |
| 18:42.36 | markos_ | n kalutern lusn eivai me multicast streams |
| 18:42.42 | aeolianfire | dld |
| 18:42.47 | markos_ | dnladn... |
| 18:43.09 | markos_ | unicast = 1 data stream per connection (user) |
| 18:43.19 | markos_ | dnladn av 100 users = 100 data streams |
| 18:43.52 | markos_ | kai px av exeis 1Mbit video stream, 8a prepei va stelveis 100 Mbit/sec (8a plnrwseis ta maliokefala sou se data rates stous providers) |
| 18:44.20 | markos_ | gia 1000 kai bale users klp dev to suzntame, 8a sou zntave premium giati 8a tous trws olo to bandwidth |
| 18:45.02 | markos_ | evw multicast -> 1 data stream per ISP/router setup (gia osous clients upostnrizei) |
| 18:45.44 | markos_ | dnladn av suvdeesai me 3 ISP (otenet/hol/forthnet px) 8es 3 multicast setups gia ka8e ISP (gia tnv akribeia gia ka8e subnet tou ISP pou upostnrizeis) |
| 18:46.04 | aeolianfire | ara me simferi to multicast (perisoteri users me ligoterous porous ) an katalaba kala |
| 18:46.16 | markos_ | px av to IP pool tns otenet gia 8essalonikn eivai diaforetiko apo a8nva 8es pali diaforetiko setup |
| 18:46.19 | markos_ | vai bebaia |
| 18:46.35 | markos_ | to problnma eivai oti eivai polu pio tricky va to stnseis kai 8elei kai suvergasia me tov ISP |
| 18:46.43 | markos_ | (to opoio mallov snmaivei oti 8a sou zntnsouv lefta) |
| 18:46.59 | markos_ | alla eivai makropro8esma -kata tnv tapeivn mou apopsn- kalutern lusn kai pio scalable |
| 18:47.40 | markos_ | px me eva suvduasmo unicast+multicast, mproeis va exeis aperioristous users me tous basikous ISPs mesw multicast, kai tous upoloipous users mesw unicast |
| 18:48.29 | markos_ | kata tnv gvwmn mou av eva kavali 8elei va bgei pragmatika live sto internet, dev exei epilogn, oi prospa8eies pou exouv givei ws twra (antenna.gr, megatv, klp) kales eivai alla dev eivai *pragmatiko* online tv |
| 18:52.25 | BlackFate | edw me to dvb stick exw kathisterisi |
| 18:52.29 | BlackFate | :P |
| 18:53.17 | BlackFate | markos_, ksereis an to vlc kanei unicast streaming> |
| 18:53.18 | BlackFate | ? |
| 18:53.41 | johnp | to poio voliko tha htan na mhn einai entelos live, alla na kanei cash kai convert se flash me delay 10" px |
| 18:55.07 | johnp | ok. eipa kai ego thn gnomh mou. mhn barate ! |
| 18:55.40 | markos_ | BlackFate, vai fusika |
| 18:55.53 | markos_ | to vlc me autov to skopo sxediastnke |
| 18:56.29 | BlackFate | markos_, to xrisimopiousa gia na streamarw kati videos.. alla osoi clients sindeontousan blepan ta idia pramata |
| 18:56.30 | markos_ | johnp, vai kai auto 8a mporouse, alla ekei milame gia unicast streaming pali |
| 18:56.56 | markos_ | to youtube kai loipoi gia va kavouv streaming se tosa ekatommuria users, exouv treles upodomes |
| 18:57.20 | markos_ | BlackFate, e vai ti 8a blepav |
| 18:57.34 | markos_ | to 8ema eivai posoi mporousav va suvde8ouv se unicast |
| 18:57.53 | BlackFate | markos_, ennow.. se sync... an ebene enas new user.. thablepe auta pou blepan oi alloi |
| 18:57.56 | BlackFate | ekeini ti stigmi |
| 18:58.20 | markos_ | http://www.thehdstandard.com/hd-streaming/unicast-and-multicast-streaming/ |
| 18:59.04 | markos_ | e profavws autn eivai kai n idea pisw apo to streaming oti oloi 8a blepouv to idio, alliws milas gia video-on-demand to opoio eivai allo pragma |
| 18:59.14 | markos_ | evvow pisw apo to tv streaming |
| 18:59.51 | BlackFate | to video-on-demand de tha borouse na theorithei unicast streaming? |
| 18:59.57 | BlackFate | i einai diaforetika? |
| 19:00.57 | markos_ | to video-on-demand stnv ousia eivai e3 orismou unicast |
| 19:01.11 | markos_ | giati eivai polu api8avo kapoios va zntnsei va dei tnv idia taivia tautoxrova |
| 19:01.27 | markos_ | to timed video-playback dev eviai to idio |
| 19:01.50 | markos_ | dnladn pou sou leve kapoioi providers (apo tis 3-5 8a paizei to X-men 3, px, av 8elete va to deite plnrwste) |
| 19:01.59 | markos_ | auto dev eivai video-on-demand |
| 19:02.07 | markos_ | to video-on-demand eivai "8elw va to dw TWRA" |
| 19:02.14 | markos_ | apo tnv arxn |
| 19:02.25 | BlackFate | video on demand se vlc elega |
| 19:02.33 | markos_ | to idio eivai |
| 19:02.35 | markos_ | vai |
| 19:02.35 | BlackFate | an kai auto to kaneis kai me ena http |
| 19:03.02 | markos_ | video-on-demand eivai e3 orismou unicast, twra to av 8a to kaveis se http n se kati allo eivai allo 8ema |
| 19:04.07 | johnp | isos kapoios video proxy na eline themata taxhthtas |
| 19:04.38 | johnp | rotiste tous idikous , as poume skype |
| 19:04.47 | johnp | or MS$ |
| 19:05.47 | markos_ | autoi exouv upodomes ekatommuriwv $ omws :) |
| 19:06.03 | markos_ | alla vai, mporeis va pas se eva akamai kai va plnrwseis suvdromn ekei |
| 19:06.05 | markos_ | kaln idea |
| 19:06.30 | markos_ | gia mikro ogko eivai kaln idea, alla gia kati parapavw kalutera va stnseis dikia sou upodomn |
| 19:06.35 | markos_ | giati autoi xrewvouv me tov ogko |
| 19:06.47 | markos_ | opote av exeis 100 users, 8a plnrwseis liga |
| 19:06.55 | johnp | nai etsi |
| 19:07.00 | johnp | amazon px |
| 19:07.10 | BlackFate | prin kairo koitaza kai auto |
| 19:07.14 | BlackFate | 100tb.com |
| 19:07.18 | BlackFate | dinoun 100tb servers |
| 19:07.20 | markos_ | av omws ftasseis va exeis 10k users to mnva, 8a sou bgei parapavw apo to va eskazes 100k se hardware infrastructure |
| 19:07.27 | markos_ | xaxaxa |
| 19:07.32 | markos_ | auta eivai |
| 19:07.32 | johnp | ! |
| 19:07.48 | markos_ | huge porn collection |
| 19:08.08 | johnp | e einai kai alla sthn mesh, px uptime,etc |
| 19:08.25 | markos_ | dev exouv ellada omws |
| 19:08.42 | BlackFate | e tha pas na kaneis kamia simfonia me kamia apo tis megales.. OVH hetzner ktl |
| 19:09.07 | BlackFate | stin ellada akoma kai na breis kati tha sto xreosoun 5 fores apoti px sti germania |
| 19:09.12 | BlackFate | kai me poly xeiroteri poiotita |
| 19:09.18 | markos_ | http://www.akamai.com/html/solutions/media_delivery.html |
| 19:09.45 | markos_ | av 8es va kaveis streaming se xiliades users stnv ellada dev exeis epilogn |
| 19:09.54 | markos_ | de milame 100-200 users |
| 19:10.01 | markos_ | auto dev eivai kavali auto eivai pet-project |
| 19:10.22 | BlackFate | prosopika... |
| 19:10.29 | markos_ | gia va peis oti eva web tv eivai petuxnmevo prepei va exei toul. 5000 xiliades users tautoxrova |
| 19:10.31 | BlackFate | an ekana kanali... tha arxiza me to ustream |
| 19:11.22 | BlackFate | poso band tha troei kathe streamm? |
| 19:11.24 | BlackFate | 400kb/s? |
| 19:11.26 | BlackFate | 500? |
| 19:11.30 | markos_ | avalogws tnv poiotnta |
| 19:12.04 | johnp | BlackFate exeis dokimasei tpt ? |
| 19:12.11 | BlackFate | http://live.twit.tv/#bitgravity |
| 19:12.23 | BlackFate | johnp, exw dokimasei to ustream sto parelthon |
| 19:12.23 | markos_ | mporeis va exeis eva a3ioprepes stream me 100kB/s -> 1Mbit/s |
| 19:12.28 | BlackFate | deite to link.. |
| 19:12.45 | BlackFate | auti einai idiaitera gnosti tv |
| 19:12.47 | markos_ | auta egw ta ekava to 2003 me multicast kai tv streams, poluuu priv parouv xampari ta kavalia gia webtv |
| 19:12.52 | markos_ | ti lew, 2002 |
| 19:13.13 | markos_ | bebaia, ntav polu vwris kai pnra ta @@ mou |
| 19:13.20 | johnp | :) |
| 19:13.23 | johnp | xaxa |
| 19:13.33 | BlackFate | xodrika xodrika i kali poiotita se autous troei 200kb/s |
| 19:14.13 | BlackFate | ara 1mb/s |
| 19:14.18 | BlackFate | soz.. |
| 19:14.21 | BlackFate | 1tb |
| 19:14.22 | BlackFate | :P |
| 19:15.13 | BlackFate | mou fenontai ypervolika :-/ |
| 19:17.58 | BlackFate | apoti blepw i bitgravity einai ISP apo moni tis. Ara an thes gia tv.. kalitera na mi bleksei me server dikous sou kai ypodomes.. kalitera na pliroseis se autes tis etairies |
| 19:18.13 | BlackFate | to ustream einai free malista... de kserw an plironeis gia kaliteri poiotita |
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