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| 21:50.02 | themill | dondelelcaro: ping |
| 21:57.28 | dondelelcaro | pong |
| 22:01.13 | themill | Hi dondelelcaro. A couple of dpkgbot questions/bugs (perhaps for you). The suggestion was made to me to talk to you here about them.... |
| 22:01.37 | dondelelcaro | sure |
| 22:01.56 | themill | dpkg: synaptic |
| 22:01.56 | dpkg | themill: no idea |
| 22:01.59 | themill | dpkg: literal synaptic |
| 22:01.59 | dpkg | "synaptic" is "A graphical user interface to add, remove and reinstall packages. It has dependency handling just like apt-get and integrates well with apt-get (and if you are using lenny then it behaves well with aptitude too). It can be found in the package `synaptic` and is not to be confused with the synaptics touchpad driver (ask me about <synaptics>)." |
| 22:02.01 | themill | Why do "synaptic" and "literal synaptic" give completely different responses? I've noticed this on a few factoids recently... _perhaps_ especially ones with quotes in them. But it seems that prepending <reply> to the factoid fixes the problem and removing it brings the problem back. Any thoughts? |
| 22:04.48 | themill | (See also "configure keyboard" and, up until we fixed it a week or so ago, "debian-devel-announce" was also broken in this way. At the time I thought d-d-a was a one off, but it seems more widespread than that) |
| 22:07.10 | dondelelcaro | hrm... |
| 22:07.41 | themill | That's what abrotman and I said too :) |
| 22:08.08 | dondelelcaro | synaptic |
| 22:08.12 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: synaptic |
| 22:08.13 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 22:08.15 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: synaptic |
| 22:08.15 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 22:08.35 | themill | heh.... the rude bugger asked me if I was using windows earlier. The cheek! |
| 22:08.46 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: literal synaptic |
| 22:08.46 | dpkg | "synaptic" is "A graphical user interface to add, remove and reinstall packages. It has dependency handling just like apt-get and integrates well with apt-get (and if you are using lenny then it behaves well with aptitude too). It can be found in the package `synaptic` and is not to be confused with the synaptics touchpad driver (ask me about <synaptics>)." |
| 22:08.52 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: synaptic |
| 22:08.52 | dpkg | no idea, dondelelcaro |
| 22:08.53 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: synaptic |
| 22:08.53 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 22:08.55 | dondelelcaro | hrm... |
| 22:09.12 | dondelelcaro | ok; I'm going to have to look a bit at what is going on there |
| 22:09.35 | themill | If you synaptic =~ s/A gra/<reply>A gra/ then i think it will be solved. (at least that worked for the d-d-a factoid) |
| 22:09.36 | dondelelcaro | I think it's the stupid multi-channel factoid bit causing problems |
| 22:09.55 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: synaptic =~ s/A graph/A graph/ |
| 22:09.55 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: OK |
| 22:10.00 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: synaptic |
| 22:10.00 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 22:10.04 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: synaptic =~ s/A graph/<reply>A graph/ |
| 22:10.04 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: OK |
| 22:10.05 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: synaptic |
| 22:10.05 | dpkg | A graphical user interface to add, remove and reinstall packages. It has dependency handling just like apt-get and integrates well with apt-get (and if you are using lenny then it behaves well with aptitude too). It can be found in the package `synaptic` and is not to be confused with the synaptics touchpad driver (ask me about <synaptics>). |
| 22:10.12 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: synaptic =~ s/<reply>A graph/A graph/ |
| 22:10.12 | dpkg | OK, dondelelcaro |
| 22:10.13 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: synaptic |
| 22:10.13 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: are you using Windows? |
| 22:10.15 | dondelelcaro | hrm. |
| 22:10.16 | themill | dpkg: win themill |
| 22:10.16 | dpkg | Congratulations, themill! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 22:10.26 | dondelelcaro | ok; I'll have to look at that a bit |
| 22:10.31 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: synaptic =~ s/A graph/<reply>A graph/ |
| 22:10.31 | dpkg | OK, dondelelcaro |
| 22:10.47 | dondelelcaro | themill: thanks for the report |
| 22:11.55 | themill | dondelelcaro: the factoid "configure keyboard" comes up as being empty too, it's also got single-quotes in it and it hasn't been modified in a long time. (It still has content on stew's web interface) |
| 22:12.34 | themill | dpkg: configure keyboard |
| 22:12.34 | dpkg | "" |
| 22:12.47 | themill | dpkg: literal configure keyboard |
| 22:12.47 | dpkg | "" |
| 22:13.07 | themill | http://dpkg.vireo.org/factoid.php?key=configure%20keyboard |
| 22:13.45 | themill | dondelelcaro: synaptic, configure keyboard and d-d-a all have quotes in the factoid... makes me suspicious of some quote sanitising getting in the way. |
| 22:14.10 | dondelelcaro | it's possible |
| 22:15.01 | themill | But that's indulging in wild guessing without even resorting to looking at source code :) |
| 22:25.02 | dondelelcaro | yeah; I'd have to look at it. Still plugging away at my stupid thesis right now |
| 22:26.18 | themill | dondelelcaro: heh... it's all a matter of priorities, and it's obvious where they *should* be... :) |
| 22:29.26 | themill | dondelelcaro: here's a non-quote-filled factoid that's having trouble: |
| 22:29.27 | themill | dvd playback toubleshooting |
| 22:29.33 | themill | dpkg literal dvd playback toubleshooting |
| 22:29.33 | dpkg | i don't know, themill |
| 22:29.39 | themill | dpkg dvd playback toubleshooting |
| 22:29.39 | dpkg | themill: i haven't a clue |
| 22:29.53 | themill | dpkg: stupid fucking bot! |
| 22:29.53 | dpkg | themill: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 22:30.12 | themill | dpkg: literal dvd playback troubleshooting |
| 22:30.12 | dpkg | "dvd playback troubleshooting" is "dvd playback works better with a direct rendering layer (shm or xv) running within X and dma turned on for your drive. You will probably need dvd decoding software, so ask me about <debian-multimedia>. You probably need to set a region on the drive too, even if you are going to use deCSS for non-region discs (package regionset). Also see http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20071016&mode=classic" |
| 22:31.12 | themill | dpkg: dvd playback troubleshooting |
| 22:31.12 | dpkg | themill: i haven't a clue |
| 22:31.49 | themill | has taken to swearing at dpkg quite a lot recently. Kind of concerning. |
| 22:42.01 | dondelelcaro | hrm... yeah, ok. |
| 22:42.17 | dondelelcaro | is kind of getting the idea that the whole factoid code needs to be reworked |
| 22:43.32 | cirdan | dpkg: beersmite dpkg |
| 22:43.33 | dpkg | forces dpkg to drink bud ice on the rocks |
| 22:43.40 | cirdan | ooo, nasty |
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| 22:45.17 | themill | dondelelcaro: sounds painful... :( |