| 01:50.08 | dererk | !x en es sighs |
| 01:50.09 | ubotu | Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dererk |
| 01:50.11 | Melian | suspiros |
| 01:50.25 | dpkg | suspiros |
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| 17:28.11 | Red-Sox | !yo |
| 17:28.11 | dpkg | yao! |
| 17:28.11 | ubotu | Red-Sox: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ |
| 17:28.22 | Red-Sox | !firefox |
| 17:28.22 | dpkg | rumour has it, firefox is the successor to Mozilla Navigator, or the best web browser EVER! apt-get install mozilla-firefox (just "firefox" for 1.5), or stew> greycat: echo "gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs"" >> ~/.gtkrc-2.0 ; fixes the keybindings. see also <firefox support> |
| 17:29.02 | Red-Sox | !bot snack |
| 17:29.02 | dpkg | Red-Sox: :) |
| 17:29.02 | Melian | thanks, Red-Sox |
| 17:29.02 | ubotu | thanks red-sox :) |
| 17:29.10 | Red-Sox | You are all welcome |
| 17:29.17 | Red-Sox | !bot snacks |
| 17:29.17 | dpkg | Red-Sox: thanks |
| 17:29.18 | Melian | Red-Sox: aw, gee |
| 17:29.18 | ubotu | :) |
| 17:29.30 | Red-Sox | !Aren't you all full yet? |
| 17:29.32 | ubotu | Red-Sox: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ |
| 17:29.52 | Red-Sox | ubotu: Only YOU know your emotions |
| 17:29.53 | ubotu | Red-Sox: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ |
| 17:30.17 | Red-Sox | !<3 |
| 17:30.18 | ubotu | Red-Sox: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ |
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| 22:02.27 | TimRiker | so what are bot owners doing about the debian move to oftc? |
| 22:30.25 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: are there two dpkg bots now? shared db or not? |
| 22:30.40 | TimRiker | dpkg: seen Myon |
| 22:30.40 | dpkg | myon is currently on #debian. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 8h 15m 35s, last said: 'dpkg: tell jsz about screen'. |
| 22:31.18 | TimRiker | dpkg: status |
| 22:31.18 | dpkg | Since Sun Jun 11 02:54:37 2006, there have been 10 modifications, 800 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 271 commands. I have been awake for 2d 19h 36m 41s this session, and currently reference 36734 factoids. I'm using about 14760 kB of memory. With 1 active fork. Process time user/system 356.4/19.24 child 0.01/0.02 |
| 22:53.43 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: yeah, the database is shared |
| 22:58.39 | TimRiker | interested in working on multi net support on one bot? ie see would show user foo in currently in freenode/#debian, oftc/#debian, etc. ? |
| 22:59.12 | TimRiker | or too much trouble for what it's worth... ? |
| 23:03.24 | dondelelcaro | well, what I'm more interested in is transitioning to PoCo::IRC |
| 23:03.42 | dondelelcaro | and ditching the shm stuff |
| 23:04.02 | TimRiker | well the shm stuff needs to go for sure. |
| 23:04.42 | TimRiker | I started work on a tcp listener that forks and other processes could use to talk to the bot. it's not ready for prime time yet. |
| 23:05.09 | TimRiker | the net::irc stuff supports it, but it'll take some work. |
| 23:05.28 | dondelelcaro | yeah... but the upstream for Net::IRC has pretty much gone away |
| 23:05.29 | TimRiker | not looked into poco yet to see how much work a conversion would be. |
| 23:05.56 | dondelelcaro | poco is nice because you get the whole poe end which takes care of all the scheduling, event passing, etc. |
| 23:06.01 | TimRiker | last I looked at poco it still was missing a lot of the stuff that net::irc claims to support. |
| 23:06.03 | dondelelcaro | we could pretty much ditch most of IRC/* |
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| 23:06.51 | TimRiker | dcc handling, and many of the event handlers weren't there. this was a couple years ago though, so it may be added now. |
| 23:07.19 | TimRiker | course much of what net::irc claims to have is buggy anyway. |
| 23:07.31 | dondelelcaro | oh, the dcc handling should be there, and it has all of the event handlers for all of the events; since it implements them in a dynamic fashion... |
| 23:07.39 | TimRiker | simple things like "what is my nick" are often broken. |
| 23:09.01 | dondelelcaro | yeah |
| 23:10.48 | TimRiker | if there is a poco conversion, it might be nice to do it under the infobot project and see if we can get other perl bots merging in again. |
| 23:11.11 | dondelelcaro | well, there already was a start on the infobot conversion to poco, but I don't know what happened to it |
| 23:11.52 | dondelelcaro | I suppose doing it in infobot would be good, but I'm really being selfish... I'm primarily interested in blootbot, and not so much the other codebases |
| 23:13.25 | TimRiker | http://infobot.cvs.sourceforge.net/infobot/infobotcode/ is a realy simple start at it. dunno if it runs. really old. |
| 23:13.59 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: I figure the more folks work on one codebase, the more goodies show up. |
| 23:14.07 | dondelelcaro | yeah |
| 23:14.53 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: but someone has to start moving on it; I'm just not that motivated to work on a codebase that I don't actually use much |
| 23:14.54 | TimRiker | but I'd stick with simiar setup. sql backend, forking modules. just kill the shm, and try to make the parent process smaller and quicker. |
| 23:15.22 | dondelelcaro | forking modules is cool, I just want to avoid reinventing POE to do the forking modules |
| 23:15.28 | TimRiker | agreed. |
| 23:16.45 | TimRiker | I'm not saying we'd start with the ancient infobot codebase. We'd likely use much of the blootbot code but stuck in as modules to a new core. |
| 23:17.05 | dondelelcaro | yeah, that I agree with |
| 23:17.37 | TimRiker | I've got lenzo's contact info and if we start moving I could likely get infobot.org pointed to the new project. |
| 23:17.45 | dondelelcaro | cool |
| 23:18.01 | dondelelcaro | well, the quarter here is almost over, so I may have some time... I've really been working on debbugs for most of my free time though |
| 23:19.22 | dondelelcaro | what I'd be happy with is some sort of really pluggable framework which gets the bot online, makes putting in arbitrary modules easy to do arbitrary things |
| 23:19.37 | TimRiker | exactly. |
| 23:19.49 | dondelelcaro | I figure we get that, then chuck on the factoids, some of the modules, and some permissions, and we're good enough to run the bots and port the other modules |
| 23:20.08 | TimRiker | I'd move most of the botsetup over to sql and have a local interface like the cli interface connect to the bot. |
| 23:20.18 | dondelelcaro | I agree |
| 23:20.38 | dondelelcaro | worst case, we have a flatfile backend for luddites. ;-) |
| 23:20.43 | TimRiker | then you do all the admin over the channel. set the nick, add the servers, or just choose the network from an existing set, add channels, set channel flags, etc. |
| 23:20.57 | dondelelcaro | right |
| 23:21.14 | TimRiker | with poe it should be possible to add AIM or other chat interfaces. |
| 23:21.21 | dondelelcaro | yerp |
| 23:21.32 | TimRiker | just need to find the time... :) |
| 23:21.45 | dondelelcaro | yeah |
| 23:22.07 | dondelelcaro | I think if we do the original framework properly, others can make those modules for us. |
| 23:22.24 | TimRiker | well, I think I'll convert infobot over to svn while we're at it so we have the option. I can't imagine anyone is tracking the cvs HEAD on that as it has not changed for years. |
| 23:23.00 | TimRiker | should be easy enough to get most of the bloot modules over. that much makes a powerful bot with lots of example modules. |
| 23:23.41 | TimRiker | then, yeah, AIM stuff or pastebot etc are much easier projects than they would be now. |
| 23:24.09 | dondelelcaro | yeah |
| 23:24.36 | dondelelcaro | and better, they're more modular, so people don't become afraid of the massive codebase that exists now |
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