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| 00:05.40 | Liquid_Ink | Neat |
| 00:05.56 | Liquid_Ink | I hear it's very close. Was looking like remain before but looking like leave now. |
| 00:06.14 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.25 | Wormy_ | Its going to be a close one I think |
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| 09:57.13 | Liquid_INk | Hey guys |
| 09:57.20 | Liquid_INk | How's your economy going? |
| 10:04.06 | Wormy_ | My country makes stupid decisions |
| 10:04.16 | Wormy_ | Pound lowest in 30-40 years |
| 10:04.32 | Wormy_ | https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/13532955_521170214739723_1934164192793105274_n.jpg?oh=28533c198b01b2cc455e22a27be84761&oe=57C2A314 "The new £1 coin, ladies and gentlemen" |
| 10:05.55 | Wormy_ | https://youtu.be/HUm36PYvvzw?t=9m33s |
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| 12:11.04 | Wormy_ | Ghelae, Liquid_Ink: Remember discussions about what the world would be like if Polytheism didn't die? Terence Mckenna paints a mythological science fiction story where Greek neoplatonists encounter Mayan mind and develop a fusion of alchemical knowledge with the Orient https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne3K23sG_2E |
| 12:26.01 | Wormy_ | A lot of what he says is not even wrong, but addictive none-the-less for its alien perspective based on mythology, existentialism and postmodernism |
| 12:26.11 | Wormy_ | *but I find it addictive |
| 12:27.07 | Wormy_ | He's also quite humble and non-preachy, often critical of the New Age |
| 12:27.11 | Wormy_ | *He was |
| 12:27.40 | Ghelae | It has the idea of syncretism occuring with other cultures whom the pagan Europeans never encountered in reality. |
| 12:28.21 | Ghelae | How the widespread consumption of psychadelics would affect global civilisation might be something else to consider for the super-collab. |
| 12:31.09 | Wormy_ | yeah |
| 12:32.10 | Ghelae | A big part of the speech is about the idea that, in this alternate reality, technology would have progressed more quickly and empires would not have fallen per se (although I expect the worldview afforded by hallucinogenic use would have resulted in major political changes to a similar effect anyway, in the sense of making empires less centralised and authoritarian). |
| 12:36.18 | Wormy_ | He had another speech where he thought the decline was psychdelics with the rise of civilisation was inevitable, but the innate needs they can give were never truly diminished, so societies would once again embrace something similar |
| 12:36.57 | Wormy_ | and then he hoped that would set the stage for profound change, such as what you suggested |
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| 13:16.11 | Wormy_ | He had a veery long lecture on alchemy that we may find useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KT_y_kS_rM |
| 13:20.49 | Ghelae | For a lecture that long, I think I'd like a transcript. :P |
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| 13:24.40 | Wormy_ | Don't think anyone will ever try to write one out |
| 13:26.01 | Wormy_ | Oh, here we go http://www.mysterium.com/tmalchemy1.html |
| 13:26.12 | Wormy_ | http://www.mysterium.com/tmalchemy.html |
| 13:35.35 | Ghelae | So it looks like the whole thing is about the alchemical framework of thinking. |
| 13:36.12 | Ghelae | I might not read all of the other two lectures today. Or I might. I'm not closing the tab down yet though. |
| 13:37.36 | Wormy_ | I've listened to the whole thing, but remember only bits. The first part was about alchemical thinking, and then half way through how it evolved and changed throughout history |
| 13:37.59 | Ghelae | The first lecture does say that's his plan. |
| 13:38.14 | Ghelae | Going from the palaeolithic to the early modern. |
| 13:38.23 | Wormy_ | Interestingly, he said the alchemists tried to create their own kingdom or city state with a united language and method, but it was crushed fairly quickly |
| 13:38.42 | Wormy_ | Just before the time of Descartes |
| 13:39.22 | Wormy_ | *before Descartes had a vision of an angel saying "The conquest of nature begins with number and measure" |
| 13:41.24 | Ghelae | I think I've heard of that before. Probably ultimately from McKenna, though. |
| 13:41.54 | Ghelae | Doesn't sound too implausible, but I don't know anything else about it. |
| 13:44.50 | Wormy_ | I've found not the exact quite, but bits and pieces on the internet about his vision of the "Angel of Truth" |
| 13:44.56 | Wormy_ | *quote |
| 13:48.22 | Wormy_ | On a side note I'm scouting through Meckenna's lectures, because he once had something to say about the profound pessimism and dis-satisfaction people had during the rise of Christianity. With empires, elite class, intellectuals and polytheism |
| 13:49.45 | Wormy_ | Today we have some economists and political scientists who believe the breakup of nations is begining, back to something more medieval. There is also the rise of populist politics and an obvious dis-satisfaction with the global elite. |
| 13:51.10 | Wormy_ | People are voting anyone regardless of their political opinions, often vile. People would rather takes leaps into the unknown |
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| 14:41.18 | Cyrannian | Sigh, that's all I can say |
| 14:44.33 | Wormy_ | Sigh indeed |
| 14:57.57 | Cyrannian | Though some good news, James Earl Jones will voice Darth Vader in Rogue One |
| 15:58.24 | Wormy_ | Good good |
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| 17:23.31 | Cyrannian | Wormy_: https://twitter.com/ProfBrianCox/status/722316790160834560 |
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| 17:27.06 | Wormy_ | genius |
| 17:27.09 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 18:09.01 | Ghel | The_Randomness: I've tried to put a more detailed description of SporeWiki's hyperspace on its page now. |
| 18:09.12 | The_Randomness | Oh, cool |
| 18:09.34 | Ghel | Still a huge work in progress, and I'm trying to keep some of the original content of the page. |
| 18:10.00 | Cyrannian | I have a couple of hyperspace images if you want to use one |
| 18:10.14 | Ghel | We could have a gallery. |
| 18:12.31 | Cyrannian | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9d/Hyperspace_Pursuit.png/revision/latest?cb=20160219210956 http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/68/ProcuratorHyperspace.png/revision/latest?cb=20140508185259 |
| 18:16.19 | Wormy_ | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/14/Hyperspace_star.png/revision/latest?cb=20121125024815 |
| 18:18.38 | Ghel | All added to a gallery for now. |
| 18:20.00 | Ghel | Hopefully they'll be put to use illustrating the article proper. |
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| 21:23.52 | Wormy_ | Unusual to see Ghel's nickname in blue |
| 21:41.32 | Ghelaway | Thanks for pointing that out for me. |
| 21:42.59 | Ghelaway | Of course I might as well just |
| 21:43.04 | Ghel | that |
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