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06:00.19 | Wormy_ | hi |
06:00.58 | Wormy_ | nothing better than dark5 before dawn |
06:02.40 | Liquid_Ink | True |
06:02.44 | Liquid_Ink | Is there a new one? |
06:06.51 | Wormy_ | Yes, but I don't know how new |
06:06.52 | Wormy_ | 5 Darkest Accidental Photos |
06:06.59 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0hvrbXkKrY |
06:09.51 | Wormy_ | Shit, so a crime syndicate in the Mediterranean has been dumping toxic waste and even radioactive material from container ships for decades. The fear is that when the containers degrade, the Med will become uninhabitable |
06:10.17 | Wormy_ | thats from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SNdOnTChgI |
06:10.49 | Liquid_Ink | Is it realiably sourced? |
06:12.51 | Wormy_ | You are right to ask that |
06:12.57 | Liquid_Ink | Well that Dark5 was rather creepy |
06:13.52 | Liquid_Ink | Although I prefered the Men in Black ne |
06:13.53 | Liquid_Ink | *one |
06:14.49 | Wormy_ | https://www.rt.com/news/italy-toxic-waste-mediterranean/ |
06:14.55 | Wormy_ | It happens sadly |
06:15.16 | Wormy_ | But they don't know precisely has much is being dumped or where, so it could be serious |
06:15.17 | Liquid_Ink | Bloody Italians |
06:18.28 | Wormy_ | See you in a short while |
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07:33.27 | Wormydroid | Hi |
07:33.42 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
07:34.02 | Liquid_Ink | Do Grimbolsaurians use giant sandworms as mounts? |
07:34.15 | Liquid_Ink | This is a silly question, but I'm not in a serious mood. |
07:35.43 | Wormydroid | I dont see why not! |
07:36.17 | Liquid_Ink | ...which is interesting considering the whole thing with Spice in Spore |
07:36.28 | Liquid_Ink | I didn't think of that until just then. |
07:38.08 | Wormydroid | Yes, I'm interested in emphasising the existence of spice |
07:38.52 | Liquid_Ink | It needs some sort of introduction somehow |
07:39.06 | Wormydroid | Ghelae has the idea its a biochemical molecule that forms from silicon based life in the crust of planets |
07:39.38 | Liquid_Ink | Remember all the hoax spices? Black, rainbow, sporty... |
07:39.52 | Liquid_Ink | I was thinking of using those as an illegal narcotic for my crime fiction |
07:40.04 | Wormydroid | It would be nice if it could be distributed on the galactic markets butbthe idea coukd be lsughed off |
07:40.27 | Wormydroid | I think you've said this before |
07:40.44 | Liquid_Ink | I have? |
07:40.44 | Wormydroid | I do remember |
07:40.51 | Wormydroid | Indeed |
07:41.18 | Wormydroid | I also remember the Spodist hoax |
07:41.35 | Liquid_Ink | Planet Spode? |
07:42.01 | Wormydroid | That's right |
07:42.18 | Liquid_Ink | Ah that whole chessnut |
07:42.31 | Liquid_Ink | I found the same wormhole they took a photo of. Nothing on the other side. |
07:42.38 | Liquid_Ink | Well, conventional stars and planets... |
07:42.54 | Wormydroid | I also attempted to visit it |
07:43.31 | Wormydroid | One thing I do believe is that the game can spawn humans near Sol |
07:43.41 | Wormydroid | It happened to me |
07:43.44 | Liquid_Ink | orly |
07:44.23 | Wormydroid | Yrly |
07:44.33 | Liquid_Ink | It has happened to you? |
07:44.43 | Wormydroid | Indeed |
07:45.35 | Wormydroid | Bbl |
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08:45.45 | Liquid_Ink | Hey Ghellly ghelly |
08:46.22 | Liquid_Ink | What was the name autocorrect gave you? Shelly? |
08:47.15 | Ghelae | I don't know; I've never had to type "Ghelae" into anything with autocorrect before. |
08:48.13 | Liquid_Ink | It was "my" autocorrect |
08:52.48 | Ghelae | Right. Well in that case, I don't remember. :P |
08:53.25 | Liquid_Ink | It's Star Trek night tonight, so we'll find out soon enough |
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10:49.28 | Liquid_Ink | Ghelae |
10:49.31 | Liquid_Ink | Damn |
10:49.47 | Liquid_Ink | I'm sure it'll autocorrect Ghelae in a little |
10:49.49 | Liquid_Ink | Damn |
10:51.25 | Ghelae | Maybe it'll autocorrect Ghelly instead? |
10:51.45 | Liquid_Ink | I don't call you Ghelly |
10:56.50 | Ghelae | [09:45] <Liquid_Ink> Hey Ghellly ghelly |
10:57.08 | Liquid_Ink | ... |
10:57.13 | Liquid_Ink | The evidence is doctored. |
10:58.28 | Ghelae | If you want to be super-pedantic, neither of those words is actually "Ghelly". |
10:58.53 | Liquid_Ink | Yes. Yes I do. |
11:00.30 | Ghelae | ...Maybe it'll autocorrect Ghellly or ghelly instead? |
11:02.23 | Liquid_Ink | I'm not sur autocorret is wokring |
11:02.27 | Liquid_Ink | See? |
11:03.48 | Ghelae | Yeah. It's broken. |
11:04.34 | Ghelae | That or it's a super-sophisticed autocorrect that doesn't correct words when it knows you're intentionally misspelling them. |
11:07.39 | Liquid_Ink | Actually, only "sur" was intentional |
11:07.59 | Ghelae | Theory disproved, then. |
11:08.17 | Liquid_Ink | Oh, the autocrat is back on now, apparently Ghelae |
11:08.19 | Liquid_Ink | Ghelae |
11:08.21 | Liquid_Ink | Damn |
11:08.43 | Ghelae | So it still doesn't autocorrect Ghelae. |
11:08.55 | Ghelae | Well, you have three other names to try at least. |
11:09.26 | Liquid_Ink | Meh |
11:10.45 | Liquid_Ink | I'm thinking of a better characterisation of the Krytyczny |
11:11.56 | Liquid_Ink | I said it was Star Trek night. We're watching a Q episode |
11:15.06 | Liquid_Ink | I like their mysterious malevolent nature in the Amanda Rogers episode |
11:20.25 | Liquid_Ink | Ghelae went quiet |
11:20.28 | Liquid_Ink | ... |
11:20.42 | Liquid_Ink | Ghelae has been added to my dictionary |
11:24.45 | Ghelae | It's a very important word. It should be in every dictionary. |
11:25.53 | Ghelae | I don't have anything to say on changing the characterisation of the Krytyczny when I'm neither sure of what their current characterisation is nor how you're planning to change it. |
11:26.42 | Liquid_Ink | Hmm. That's true. |
11:26.56 | Liquid_Ink | Are the Q sort of semi-canon in Sporewikiverse? |
11:27.10 | Liquid_Ink | The Xyanxes or something if I recall. |
11:30.32 | Liquid_Ink | Are you busy? |
11:30.36 | Ghelae | I think Wormy gave "Q" as another name for Xyanxes, yes. |
11:31.43 | Liquid_Ink | What are the Xyanxes like? |
11:32.32 | Ghelae | A hodgepodge of Tier 0 sci-fi races, essentially. |
11:33.02 | Ghelae | They tend to be more distant than Q. |
11:35.43 | Liquid_Ink | I see |
11:42.32 | Ghelae | The name "Q" doesn't even appear on the Precursors' page. |
11:42.50 | Liquid_Ink | Really? |
11:43.09 | Ghelae | But it is mentioned on the Ultraterrestrials page. |
11:43.19 | Ghelae | 'The oldest of the First Ones are the mysterious Xyanxes, also known by other names such as "Nagilum", "Q" or "Xeelee".' |
11:50.22 | Liquid_Ink | Wormy sure does love his science fiction references |
12:01.40 | Liquid_Ink | Hey remember when Anakin asked Padme if she was an angel? |
12:01.54 | Liquid_Ink | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Diathim Well they're a thing |
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12:27.51 | Ghelae | Hello. |
12:29.35 | Liquid_Ink | I'm thinking of what species would supplement the Turr Kyolm Belt beyond the already canonised ones |
12:30.25 | Ghelae | Gooplets. |
12:31.04 | Liquid_Ink | >:( |
12:32.16 | Liquid_Ink | The former list of DSB species has some ideas, although a lot of them I'd rather purge. |
12:33.16 | Liquid_Ink | Many of them are the same general thing anyway |
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19:11.37 | Wormy_ | The_Randomness: I'm actually under the impression Vulcans are stronger than Klingons |
19:11.44 | The_Randomness | hm |
19:11.50 | Wormy_ | Maybe not as resilient |
19:12.16 | The_Randomness | I personally don't have an opinion on that myself, but I do agree that Vulcans aren't quite as resilient. |
19:13.45 | Wormy_ | Well I don't know what you think of the new movies but Spock was able to fight Kahn, and Kahn beat up a whole squad of Klingons |
19:13.59 | Wormy_ | Then in TOS, there is this unbelievable feat of strength https://youtu.be/_moAVIjNtE4?t=1m38s |
19:15.04 | Wormy_ | Or maybe being half human makes Spock stronger, not weaker for some reason |
19:19.47 | The_Randomness | Sorry for being slow to respond, I just got a bite to eat, and I'm extremely annoyed with my current state of health right now |
19:21.40 | Wormy_ | Alright |
19:22.10 | Wormy_ | I was going to conclude, I am annoyed by Star Trek being inconsistent with Klingon strength |
19:22.18 | The_Randomness | >star trek |
19:22.22 | The_Randomness | >consistency |
19:22.26 | The_Randomness | Choose one :^) |
19:22.36 | Wormy_ | in DS9 and ENT they were got chucked about by humans |
19:23.08 | Wormy_ | hur |
19:24.02 | Wormy_ | I guess the Federation having no money or capitalism in some episodes, and Picard being very materialist on the other also counts on lack of consistency |
19:24.29 | Wormy_ | and other characters, buying things and so on |
19:26.59 | The_Randomness | I personally don't have an issue with characters buying things and such, they would obviously have some need of trade, they just don't have any need of money within the Federation itself |
19:28.00 | The_Randomness | But yeah, Vulcans are obviously incredibly strong (e.g. Spock laying the beatdown on Khan in ID), it's just that we normally don't see it unless they lose control of their emotions. |
19:28.54 | Wormy_ | yeah |
19:31.15 | The_Randomness | As for Klingons, I suspect that they may not be too much stronger than most humans, but they're more likely to use their strength more regularly |
19:31.27 | The_Randomness | And they probably actively work on it quite a bit |
19:34.28 | Wormy_ | That's true |
19:34.55 | Wormy_ | People 100 years ago had denser bones from all the work they did (and perhaps today in the developing world) |
19:34.59 | The_Randomness | And/or they know how to use it better |
19:36.26 | Wormy_ | It would make sense for those fights in which the human won |
19:36.33 | Wormy_ | Like Sisko |
19:36.46 | Wormy_ | Being a boxer |
19:37.48 | Wormy_ | Although in TNG when that Klingon slapped Riker, he sent him flying |
19:38.01 | Wormy_ | And I doubt that was full strength |
19:38.25 | The_Randomness | If it was full strength it might've ruffled his glorious beard |
19:38.38 | Wormy_ | lol |
19:39.05 | Wormy_ | http://scrolldowntoriker.com/ |
19:39.30 | The_Randomness | lol what |
19:40.13 | Wormy_ | I find it funny how you spot Riker grinning into the camera sometimes |
19:40.20 | Wormy_ | Or pulling faces |
19:41.27 | The_Randomness | heh |
19:41.39 | The_Randomness | I never noticed that, or at least I don't remember it |
19:42.23 | Wormy_ | I didn't until I watched various TNG recuts, which tend to emphasise it |
21:16.16 | Wormy_ | Ghel: Do you think the British Spaceport will go anywhere? |
21:16.40 | Wormy_ | It claims it will launch unammed and manned spaceflight |
21:16.43 | Ghel | I haven't heard anything about it in a while. Has it been in the news again recently? |
21:17.22 | Wormy_ | Not too recently, but last I heard, there were some candidate locations |
21:18.15 | Wormy_ | I think it could be a good opportunity for Virigin Galactic and SKYLON |
21:19.07 | Wormy_ | Or Reaction Engines, rather |
21:22.12 | Ghel | Britain isn't the ideal location for a spaceport because of its distance from the equator. |
21:22.23 | Ghel | I suppose if the Empire still existed it'd be built somewhere in Africa. |
21:23.18 | Wormy_ | Or some of the Caribbean islands |
21:23.23 | Ghel | But the idea isn't terrible; I see no reason to be certain it won't go ahead. |
21:25.44 | Ghel | For some reason I imagine southern India as a place for a spaceport. |
21:27.52 | Wormy_ | Here's the candidates in our timeline http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/76211000/gif/_76211478_20140711_space_ports_map.gif |
21:28.49 | Ghel | Not really any central locations. |
21:29.23 | Ghel | Not that you'd want a spaceport in particularly close proximity to large populations, I guess. |
21:29.51 | Wormy_ | One of the listed difficultes was proximity to houses and congested airways |
21:30.32 | Ghel | Wales is the closest to half-way up the island. Also the least likely to be taken away from the UK by an independence referendum. |
21:31.13 | Ghel | Well, maybe drawn with Newquay on the latter point. |
21:31.44 | Wormy_ | lol |
21:32.29 | Wormy_ | The Goonhilly radio station makes Cornwall a good candidate as well |
21:34.10 | Ghel | Oh, so it does. It'll also have a longer runway than Llanbedr. |
21:34.43 | Ghel | And it's further south, but I don't know how much difference that'll make at our latitude. |
21:35.25 | Wormy_ | Probably miniscule |
21:41.38 | Wormy_ | Also I imagine if pre-WWI politics hadn't changed the powers a great deal through the rest of the century, I imagine spaceflight may have taken longer. Unless somekind of imperial cold war persisted maybe |
21:45.00 | Ghel | Spaceflight basically happened because of Nazi rockets. |
21:45.31 | Ghel | Without wanting to bomb cities from really far away, I don't think the technology would have been developed so soon. |
21:46.05 | Wormy_ | There's an alternative universe proposed on alternative histories where Britain aligns with Germany in WWI and the two take France. US remains isolationist. Hitler doesn't rise in Germany, but potentially another version of him does in some other land. A potential world war happens with the Soviets and other communist forces. |
21:46.57 | Wormy_ | Yes, such tech might be have been stalled by decades |
21:47.08 | Wormy_ | It probably would have come in the end |
21:47.27 | Wormy_ | Maybe in that world, there was internet before there was spaceflight |
21:48.24 | Wormy_ | Hm, the need for satellites probably would have emerged |
21:50.21 | Ghel | Their utility would have been recognised eventually. |
21:53.36 | Wormy_ | Oh well, if Britain gets a move on, we could establish a commercial space empire :D |
21:53.40 | Ghel | Of course, history is not perfectly predictable. Although slow to start off, perhaps interplanetary colonisation plans are well under way in the early 21st century of this alternate imperialist world. |
21:54.11 | Ghel | And space battleships already exist. |
21:54.49 | Wormy_ | Yeah, no reason for a nuclear space treaty if there was no immediate threat of obliteration |
21:55.02 | Wormy_ | And that might mean nuclear powered spaceships |
21:55.33 | Ghel | Although the problems with space radiation would still exist that need research to overcome. |
21:55.45 | Ghel | And how nuclear technology actually progressed... that may be even harder to judge. |
21:56.52 | Ghel | Perhaps a couple of nukes to get a country to surrender is the best way of ensuring that people recognise how horrible nuclear weapons are and thereby prevent nuclear war. |
21:57.48 | Ghel | In any other world there's always a risk that by the time the first nuclear strike is made, the receiving nation is large enough to survive it and ready enough to start a counterstrike... and the rest is (the end of) history. |
21:58.44 | Ghel | Even being optimistic, blowing stuff up with fission is easier than a controlled reaction. Somebody would have realised that you can make a deadly bomb with nuclear technology. |
21:59.28 | Wormy_ | I believe the idea of a nuclear bomb had been there for a long time, even before nuclear physics was understood |
21:59.56 | Ghel | H. G. Wells had a similar idea. |
22:00.24 | Ghel | Although it wasn't until nuclear physics was understood that the idea was at all plausible. |
22:01.17 | Ghel | Still, if nuclear power was developed in a time of peace, we could still have our nuclear-powered spaceships. |
22:03.38 | Ghel | And I'm sure we could get an end-of-WWII type of situation where the first nuclear attack doesn't lead to MAD and instead makes people realise what a bad idea nuclear warfare is. |
22:05.30 | Ghel | I'm going to go now. Bye! |
22:05.37 | Wormy_ | bye! |
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