| 00:23.47 | Cyrannian | Wormy_fiction: I'm about to put up that story. What do you think of that origin? |
| 00:25.10 | Wormy_fiction | Sounds like an interesting backstory |
| 00:25.35 | Wormy_fiction | And I don't see any problems there. There has been years of open opportunity for Steve and this could build up on it |
| 00:26.21 | Cyrannian | Kewl |
| 00:26.36 | Cyrannian | Sorry for interrupting your writing! |
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| 09:00.12 | Liquid_Ink | How would you suppose a Plague Doctor Universe would work? |
| 09:03.49 | Ghelae | I have no idea. |
| 09:04.50 | Ghelae | It sounds like it would just be a universe in which everybody is a Plague Doctor. |
| 09:06.33 | Liquid_Ink | Wait a second... |
| 09:06.55 | Liquid_Ink | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Xhodocto3546 Remember this silly stuff? We can base it on that, except everybody is a Plague Doctor. |
| 09:07.20 | Liquid_Ink | In a crime fighting team. Fighting the Plague Doctor supervillain you mentioned. |
| 09:15.16 | Liquid_Ink | I'm going to read The Tree of Life. |
| 09:52.20 | Liquid_Ink | It's really good. |
| 10:03.42 | Ghelae | Thanks. What colour do you think Doctor Plague's outfit should be? I've started work on him in Spore. |
| 10:04.40 | Liquid_Ink | Black, obviously. |
| 10:06.35 | Liquid_Ink | I assume you mean the villain one? Well, he'll be the most historically accurate one. In terms of colours anyway. |
| 10:08.11 | Ghelae | Yes; he's not going to be completely accurate due to the limitations of the creator. |
| 10:08.21 | Ghelae | Currently, his plague mask is mechanical. |
| 10:10.46 | Ghelae | And convincing robes are always difficult to make. |
| 10:12.40 | Liquid_Ink | Very much so. |
| 10:13.35 | Ghelae | Pure black seems to be impossible to get, since Spore likes giving most of the outfits lighter highlights. Will black with steel trimmings be acceptable for you? |
| 10:13.52 | Ghelae | to you* |
| 10:14.49 | Ghelae | Actually, if anything, it's mostly metal... |
| 10:16.54 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah. |
| 10:20.01 | Ghelae | I'm going to try covering him with the darkest of Dark Injection parts just to see if I can get a proper black outfit. |
| 10:20.54 | Liquid_Ink | Oooh, you have Dark Injection? |
| 10:21.17 | Ghelae | Yes. It's how I made the mask; there are a few beak-like robot mouths that come with it. |
| 10:21.50 | Liquid_Ink | Cool |
| 10:33.20 | Ghelae | I've got a black outfit now. It looks quite heavy and the arms and upper body have quite a few spikes, though. |
| 10:35.23 | Liquid_Ink | Spikes of villainy! |
| 10:35.49 | Ghelae | Now I just need to give him an appropriate stick. |
| 10:36.11 | Ghelae | Fortunately, DI has plenty of them too. |
| 10:36.57 | Liquid_Ink | Yep |
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| 10:46.59 | Liquid_Ink | Wormy we're making another fiction universe. |
| 10:47.19 | Wormy | Hoorah |
| 10:47.59 | Wormy | BTW, in a fit of nighttime/early morning madness I wrote this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Legacy/Unseen_Entity#The_unknown.2C_and_the_unknowable |
| 10:48.14 | Wormy | It still needs the middle section to finish |
| 10:48.27 | Liquid_Ink | I suggested to Angrybirds that we have Plague Doctors in his Brave New World universe, then Ghelae mentioend that they still need to be made for the Fantasy Universe, and I agreed. |
| 10:49.26 | Liquid_Ink | I then said that I wasn't going to stop there. He asked if that meant Plague Doctors in the SciFiverse, to which I confirmed. I then agreed that the Civverse was then in need of Plague Doctors. |
| 10:49.40 | Liquid_Ink | Then I announced that we were going to make a Plague Doctor Universe. |
| 10:55.37 | Wormy | Amazing |
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| 16:55.16 | Wormy | hi |
| 16:55.37 | Cyrannian | Hi there Wormy |
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| 21:08.45 | drom | Cyrannian. Maybe it's good time to talk further about the accords |
| 21:09.04 | Cyrannian | Of course, what would you like to discuss? |
| 21:09.58 | drom | The joint-proposal between MCA and NC |
| 21:11.32 | Cyrannian | Sure, I'm free to discuss that. |
| 21:11.42 | Cyrannian | Did you have anything in mind |
| 21:12.57 | drom | I don't know. But I'll probably get more questions when I get the details of the proposal. |
| 21:13.04 | drom | Oh. I have got a question. |
| 21:13.21 | Cyrannian | Go ahead |
| 21:14.12 | drom | Is it possible to adapt proposal on several items of the proposal. Still the core items still apply to all. |
| 21:15.33 | Cyrannian | Yes, members can pick and choose different aspects of membership at the leisure of its government. |
| 21:15.40 | drom | I mean, adapted to fit to be accepted by the both parts. |
| 21:17.08 | Cyrannian | Yes, that's also possible. |
| 21:18.53 | drom | Alright. Let's discuss about the possible proposals for NC. And possible items in terms of adaption and acceptance. |
| 21:19.32 | Cyrannian | Would the NC like to participate in joint fleet operations with other members? |
| 21:20.08 | drom | Very likely |
| 21:20.58 | drom | Maybe it's not so much about it. But NC is in majority populated by a para-military society. So military-trained law force. |
| 21:21.40 | Cyrannian | And would they like to participate in joint-infrastructure projects such as exploration of unknown space and the maintenance and growth of the Gigaquadrantic wormhole system? |
| 21:21.58 | drom | 50:50 likely |
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| 21:25.15 | drom | One thing is very likely. They don't want to be affected by politic influence from other empires and parties. In trade-off of them minding their own political business when it doesn't come to non-domestic troubles and other armed conflicts affecting them. |
| 21:41.19 | Cyrannian | sozzles |
| 21:41.57 | Cyrannian | Yes, that can be arranged. They can choose to avoid outside political influence while simultaneously benefiting from joint military maneuvers |
| 21:43.03 | drom | Got some more suggestions? |
| 21:45.29 | Cyrannian | Hmmm |
| 21:45.55 | Cyrannian | Would they agree to defend other members should they come under attack? |
| 21:46.47 | drom | much likely |
| 21:48.40 | drom | They are not much interested in terms of trading. |
| 21:49.35 | Cyrannian | Ah that's alright, it isn't really a trade organisation. |
| 21:51.47 | drom | Shared intelligence |
| 21:52.11 | drom | As in info about affairs and areas |
| 21:53.41 | Cyrannian | Yes, if they wish they can share information and intelligence in return for receiving it from other members |
| 21:54.47 | drom | I see. How about agencies and special opearion groups? |
| 21:55.25 | Cyrannian | I haven't really thought about that, but if you're interested, the NC can be at the forefront of that |
| 21:57.55 | Wormy | Right Cyrannian, me and AB have come up with ideas about a proxy war early in GC |
| 21:59.11 | Wormy | It will only involve the ATR if you want |
| 21:59.24 | Wormy | Otherwise, it will just involve my Kindred Coalition |
| 22:00.15 | Cyrannian | Since the ATR is shared with you, it's not my place to refuse their involvement. What did you have in mind? |
| 22:00.50 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.45 | Wormy | However, earlier in the war, the DCP and DI play tin soldiers with humanity. The DCP influences the Kindred Coalition, DI influences the OL |
| 22:02.57 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.46 | Wormy | Kindred Coalition elects a highly militant government supported by the DCP -> this leaks out to the OL, the OL demand that the government step down -> Kindred Coalition government orders the Corscian Defense Force to leave -> Corsican Defense Force stage a military coup (whether it fails or not is up to you) -> Kindred Coalition declares war on OL |
| 22:04.17 | Wormy | " (whether it fails or not is up to you)" ignore that, thats not relevant |
| 22:05.22 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.07 | Wormy | Now the question is, would the ATR take military action to side with the DCP and Kindred? |
| 22:06.29 | drom | Cyrannian: They will happily accept the item. |
| 22:06.47 | drom | offer* |
| 22:07.43 | Wormy | The DCP can also help re-establish the ATR on the Orion Spur, soon after, the DCP ends up backing the ATR/Kindred themselves |
| 22:08.06 | Wormy | though I don't see why the ATR would need expelling myself if the DCP are backing it |
| 22:08.42 | Cyrannian | I'm not sure if I want the ATR to be expelled either. |
| 22:10.22 | Wormy | I don't think they will be, given the DCP gains victory over the Plazith Rim before moving onto other galaxies |
| 22:10.42 | Wormy | AB did propose that before we decided on a DCP victory |
| 22:11.22 | Cyrannian | The thing I want to happen to the ATC during the GC is that they gain more Old Earth nations as either full time or associate members, not lose influence over that area of space. |
| 22:12.09 | Wormy | They could have the Fjord League, and India (which I still need to use) |
| 22:12.22 | Wormy | at least |
| 22:13.31 | Wormy | Given the defeat of the Orion League (at least until the DCP starts falling back), it is possible the ATR gains more influence |
| 22:15.10 | Cyrannian | Perhaps the ATR could drop out of the conflict once the DCP is victorious and confident with its influence and new members, it declares neutrality and joins the Accords. |
| 22:15.41 | drom | I hope you don't mind me asking for more ideas in the public channel. |
| 22:15.55 | Cyrannian | Is that for the Mou'Cyran Accords? |
| 22:16.26 | drom | Yup. |
| 22:17.11 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.26 | drom | lol |
| 22:18.19 | Cyrannian | Wormy: By the way, I added the capital of the DCP in Cyrannus to the map, called New Mirenton and I mentioned how it plays host to joint cultural exchanges, like in that story we planned. |
| 22:18.36 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.54 | Cyrannian | And I also added the capital of the NC in Cyrannus to the map, drom |
| 22:20.02 | Wormy | In stunning synchronicity |
| 22:20.04 | Wormy | [23:14] <Angrybirds> I just had an idea. Maybe the DCP would hand over the occupation of Orion's Spur to the ATR. |
| 22:21.14 | Wormy | [23:17] <Angrybirds> Right. The Old Earth nations wouldn't let it off so easily, though. There'd be a bunch of governments in exile demanding their countries back. xD [23:18] <Wormy> Given that, the ATR drops out of the war, it will mean one less ally for the DCP |
| 22:21.24 | Wormy | [23:19] <Angrybirds> Right. So the ATR is kicked out of Orion's Spur briefly, only to return to forcefully occupy the whole thing, and then either they give back the occupied countries peacefully, or the allies have to fight for them. |
| 22:22.23 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.43 | Wormy | [23:22] <Wormy> I'm not sure of Cyrannian wants them expelled at all, though its possibly they are nearly defeated at first, we'll wait and see what Cyrannian says |
| 22:24.06 | drom | I think it's better to get him to here instead. |
| 22:25.03 | Wormy | It might be fair if ATR loses some territory for a few weeks, since its a big ask for the DCP to occupy the Orion League |
| 22:26.31 | Cyrannian | I think I'd prefer for the ATR to fight for the Kindred Coalition when they are threatened and somehow win over support from old Earth nations like India and the Fjord League, which leave the OL and join them peacefully. It wouldn't be in their enlightened nature to invade and occupy old Earth nations if they didn't wish to join. The DCP may be alone in the occupation in that case. |
| 22:29.07 | Wormy | [23:28] <Angrybirds> Tell Cyrannian that the DCP would do all of the invading and hand over the territories to the ATR, all of them having surrendered. |
| 22:30.10 | Wormy | It is true, the DCP invades the the OL, and puts the Kindred Coalition and/or rest of the ATR in charge (though that still is occupation, I guess) |
| 22:31.19 | Wormy | If not, the Kindred Coalition could do the occupying |
| 22:33.01 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.05 | Wormy | He said he is going to ask them to begin with, and now he is saying "We" |
| 22:35.52 | Wormy | [23:34] <Angrybirds> It doesn't make sense, though. The ATR would basically be unifying humanity. All of the territories would be in political turmoil, paralyzed, fracturing, most of them with no governments and their militaries fled. It would most definitely be in the ATR's character to try to save them from a brutal DCP occupation. |
| 22:36.20 | Wormy | 23:35] <Wormy> It could be a humanitarian effort by the ATR, and once the DCP's grip fails, the ATR could immediately return sovereignty to the Orion League |
| 22:37.03 | Wormy | and leave its alliance with the DCP to join the Accords in the hope that they can convince the DCP to stop |
| 22:37.25 | Cyrannian | If these territories ask for Republic protection, they would of course accept. But they would not impose themselves on those who don't ask for help in the first place. |
| 22:39.08 | Wormy | .[23:38] <Wormy> The opportunity of the DCP leaving human occupation to Republic hands would seem like a "breath of fresh air", even if its still occupation. They might accept, |
| 22:39.27 | Wormy | Hopefully AB will say yes and we can be done with this |
| 22:40.53 | Cyrannian | Well it wouldn't be an occupation if the people of the former countries ask for help from the ATR, which is the only way the Republic will intervene as a humanitarian operation. |
| 22:41.30 | Wormy | A|B says "They will most certainly pick the lesser of two evils." |
| 22:43.34 | Cyrannian | It's not like the ATR will be doing anything wrong. They will happily stay out of OL affairs, but if they actually ask the ATR to protect their people, they will certainly oblige until their return. |
| 22:43.53 | Wormy | Indeed |
| 22:44.04 | Wormy | The ATR sounds like one of the good guys in this war |
| 22:44.12 | Wormy | The DCP is the mad guy |
| 22:44.47 | Wormy | The Xonexi "revolutionaries" are just as mad for their own imperialism |
| 22:44.57 | Wormy | Meanwhile, everyone is under manipulation |
| 22:50.41 | Wormy | What do we do with ATR space in the Orion Spur before all this? |
| 22:50.56 | drom | Alright Cyrannian. Think we have set the MCA agreements for NC. |
| 22:51.25 | Wormy | There is a chunk right next yo France, if the ATR is helping the Kindred Coalition, the OL are likely to attack their neighbor |
| 22:52.19 | Cyrannian | France is likely to attack their neighbour, I doubt the whole of the OL would given that there are many joint members. |
| 22:53.11 | Wormy | As I understand it, you don't want the ATR expelled. Thats fine, I've offered to have Kindred territory temporally expelled |
| 22:53.17 | Cyrannian | That would likely amount to the OL civil war. |
| 22:53.27 | Cyrannian | drom: I think we have agreed! |
| 22:53.41 | Wormy | I want to wrap this up with AB now |
| 22:54.12 | Wormy | If there is no territory loss to the ATR, there will be none |
| 22:54.17 | drom | Wait, how about add an agreement that either MCA or NC can call into meeting for changes or additions to the proposal/agreement. |
| 22:54.27 | drom | What do you think about that+ |
| 22:54.29 | drom | ? |
| 22:54.49 | Cyrannian | I think that's alright |
| 22:57.02 | drom | Alright. Let's sign it. |
| 23:07.30 | drom | Cyrannian: Since you lost the duel, go to and edit the Mou'Cyran paeg. Or... |
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| 23:22.39 | drom | ey |
| 23:25.33 | Cyrannian | ello |
| 23:25.53 | Wormy | how'do |
| 23:26.16 | Liquid_Ink | ey |
| 23:26.18 | Liquid_Ink | ello |
| 23:26.21 | Liquid_Ink | I do will |
| 23:26.23 | Liquid_Ink | *well |
| 23:31.47 | drom | Cyrannian: I'll be putting out the lights now. I'll (un)likely make a table-version of the document as attached to a tranmission from NC tomorrow. |
| 23:32.10 | drom | ugh, (un)likely will* |
| 23:32.15 | drom | g'night everyone |
| 23:32.18 | Cyrannian | drom: Great, I'll look forward to it |
| 23:32.20 | Cyrannian | night |
| 23:45.30 | Liquid_Ink | How's the Second Cyrannian War going? |
| 23:54.17 | Cyrannian | Good. I updated the Amphyrssos Campaign last night in a section featuring Steve. |
| 23:54.39 | Liquid_Ink | I'll have to read that. |
| 23:55.06 | Liquid_Ink | Oh, and Ghelae and I are making a brand new ficiton universe: the Plague Doctor Verse! |
| 23:55.33 | Cyrannian | Ooh, is that relating to the guy Ghelae uploaded? |
| 23:57.33 | Liquid_Ink | Yep. |
| 23:58.05 | Liquid_Ink | He's the villain, who will be fought by everybody's own personalised Plague Doctor characters. |
| 23:58.38 | Liquid_Ink | Oh hey, he made it for the Civverse. THat's cool. |
| 23:59.10 | Liquid_Ink | (The inpendant Plague Doctor Universe was a joke, of course. Anybody who didn't realise that will be forcibly removed from the gene pool) |