| 00:03.06 | Repo | [WoW] 10rpb-20: 03Asuah * r22 / (3 files in 1 directory): Options (mostly) set up. |
| 00:24.58 | Repo | [WAR] 10tithetracker: 03sangdrax8 * r19 TitheTracker.lua: |
| 00:24.59 | Repo | removed events which apparently the game does not correctly throw. |
| 00:31.08 | bleeter | k, so.. first step. find out who to yell at for Ackis Recipe List's YAML failing at parsing ... Code: YAML_PARSE_ERR_NO_FINAL_NEWLINE |
| 00:32.11 | Arrowmaster | hes probably using tabs instead of spaces to indent |
| 00:34.21 | bleeter | I'm not singling ackis out, just the first on the list of wowace addons I'm trying to parse... and it failed. :( |
| 00:46.51 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: ah, the problem with ackis' arl .pkgmeta is (1) tabs (2) # comments, from what I see |
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| 00:47.12 | bleeter | ysh seems happy to parse if I fix those two things with sed first |
| 00:49.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah blame ackis |
| 00:49.47 | Arrowmaster | the packager converts leading tabs to spaces |
| 00:50.44 | bleeter | I'd rather blame the packager for not rejecting the pkgmeta ;) |
| 00:59.21 | sag_ich_nicht | someone comment, http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cZceVbRhzMeoZe00iooIhxu how many people on the hunter forums could I make completely rage & troll by posting this |
| 01:00.53 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, I think this one is even better to do that: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cZceVbRhzMjoMZe00iooIhxh |
| 01:11.57 | Repo | [WAR] 10tithetracker: 03sangdrax8 * r20 TitheTracker.lua: |
| 01:11.58 | Repo | removed influence updates from event debugging so it can be seen easier |
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| 01:32.17 | Repo | [WoW] 10dummybar: 03CodeRedLin 07master * 82f3fa5 / (3 files in 1 directory): [new] |
| 01:32.48 | Repo | [WoW] 10dummybar: 03CodeRedLin 041.0-Release * 256a23e /: [new tag] Release 1.0 |
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| 01:58.59 | Repo | [WoW] 10shockandawe: 03Pericles * r73 / (8 files in 2 directories): ShockAndAwe: - |
| 01:58.59 | Repo | overnight commit - server down for maintenance |
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| 03:08.35 | Lothaer | G'day |
| 03:08.58 | bleeter | coulda fooled me! :P |
| 03:09.02 | Lothaer | lol |
| 03:09.35 | Lothaer | hey ckk u there? |
| 03:09.51 | bleeter | anyone got any bright ideas how to 'combat' this foo in tghe svn/pkgmeta/YAML external foo? |
| 03:09.55 | bleeter | svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/crayon-lib/mainline/trunk/Crayon-2.0 |
| 03:09.55 | bleeter | svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/crayonlib/mainline/trunk/Crayon-2.0 |
| 03:10.02 | bleeter | svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/fu-bar-plugin-2-0/mainline/trunk/FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 03:10.02 | bleeter | svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/fubarplugin-2-0/mainline/trunk/FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 03:10.05 | bleeter | (as two examples) |
| 03:10.25 | Lothaer | ~seen @ckknight |
| 03:10.26 | purl | Lothaer: i haven't seen '@ckknight' |
| 03:10.42 | Lothaer | ~seen ckknight |
| 03:10.43 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 3h 46m 29s ago, saying: 'it acts as an unordered dictionary'. |
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| 03:56.01 | Mundyz | what function do i use to move a frame to x,y on the screen |
| 04:03.40 | Mundyz | oh |
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| 04:24.09 | Repo | [WAR] 10bigbuff: 03Vodd * r8 BigBuff/BigBuff.lua: |
| 04:24.10 | Repo | Started implementing per BuffTargetType enabling of Player cast buff/debuffs. |
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| 05:20.25 | Repo | [WAR] 10libstoreddata: 03beeblebrox42 * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 05:20.27 | Repo | Provides parallel and centralized storage for versioned embedded libraries. |
| 05:20.28 | Repo | Still need to write some tests and make a Proof of concept addon before making it beta. |
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| 07:14.07 | sag_ich_nicht | http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2008/07/old-holborn-is-going-for-walk.html how about a nice little relaxing walk? |
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| 07:48.34 | Elkano | any chance to have the envelope on curse blink when there is a new PM? currently it only seems to show the number of conversations and even that can be way off :/ |
| 07:49.27 | nevcairiel | configure it to show you a popup when you get a PM |
| 07:49.30 | nevcairiel | mighty helpful =P |
| 07:55.23 | Repo | [WoW] 10gear-dps: 03kbranch * r35 GearDPS.toc: GearDPS: |
| 07:55.23 | Repo | - TOC update for 3.0, more coming later |
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| 08:06.48 | angelike | hi |
| 08:12.17 | Repo | [WoW] 10gear-dps: 03kbranch * r36 / (2 files in 1 directory): GearDPS: |
| 08:12.18 | Repo | - Minor bugfix update for 3.0 |
| 08:22.08 | Repo | [WAR] 10nstancehighlighter: 03Nemes 041.5-release * r20 : Don't attempt to re-register for stance updates on reload |
| 08:23.35 | Repo | [WoW] 10trades-bar: 03egingell * r44 TradesBar.lua: |
| 08:23.36 | Repo | -- Fixed errors in the event handler for the VARIABLES_LOADED event. |
| 08:23.57 | Repo | [WoW] 10trades-bar: 03egingell 04v200810290223 * r45 : Tagging as v200810290223. |
| 08:30.08 | Repo | [WoW] 10dominos_bufftimes: 03starslayer2 * r7 main.lua: |
| 08:30.08 | Repo | Added support for focus targets and macros. Buttons with macros where the name contains " Focus" will apply to focus targets. |
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| 08:34.09 | charon | morning |
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| 09:07.55 | Repo | [WAR] 10libgui: 03Aiiane * r16 LibGUI.lua: Make setting the selected item in a combobox...you know...work? |
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| 10:14.27 | Repo | [WoW] 10naz-guild-recruiter: 03gramg 041.6b * r21 : Tagging as 1.6b. |
| 10:14.28 | Repo | Try this if you are getting errors and get back to me. |
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| 10:50.18 | charon | naz-guild-recruiter just blew up the packager... |
| 10:50.57 | Stanzilla | why is that even possible? :P |
| 10:53.51 | charon | very good question |
| 10:56.45 | charon | @project naz-guild-recruiter |
| 10:56.45 | Repo | charon: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/naz-guild-recruiter/. NazGuildRecruiter. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Leader: gramg. Updated: 36 days ago. Tickets: 7/8 |
| 10:57.07 | charon | oh, i see. |
| 10:57.36 | Stanzilla | old svn externals? |
| 10:58.03 | charon | nah |
| 10:58.16 | charon | the packager code depends on having a trunk commit within the last month |
| 10:58.18 | charon | otherwise it blows up |
| 10:58.21 | charon | writing a fix |
| 11:04.14 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03anmoch 06anmoch * r230 svn.py: svn: Fix _get_revision() to not depend on recent trunk commits |
| 11:04.15 | Repo | _get_revision() would blow up if there weren't any trunk commits |
| 11:04.15 | Repo | within the last month, which makes the changelog empty. Replace with |
| 11:04.16 | Repo | 'svn info' output to get the last changed revision. |
| 11:04.21 | charon | ckknight|away: ^ |
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| 11:46.27 | Repo | [WoW] 10goingprice_allakhazam: 03Neikos * r276 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updating to version 3.0.1225280755 |
| 11:46.30 | Repo | [WoW] 10goingprice_allakhazam: 03Neikos 043.0.1225280755 * r277 : Tagging version 3.0.1225280755 |
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| 12:02.45 | Grum | i has pie~! <) |
| 12:06.15 | Zhinjio | G'morning, folks. |
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| 13:01.49 | [SW]Dodge | Kaelten , ckknight|away , nevcairiel : fix packager :D |
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| 13:24.04 | Repo | [WoW] 10dominos_bufftimes: 03starslayer2 * r8 main.lua: |
| 13:24.04 | Repo | - Added filter for spells which are not desirable to show buff/debuff timer (where you want to see CD instead). |
| 13:24.04 | Repo | - Fixed bug where changing targets would reset the cooldown frames. |
| 13:24.35 | [SW]Dodge | WTB PACKAGER FIX ._. plx! ;c |
| 13:30.03 | Repo | [WoW] 10dominos_bufftimes: 03starslayer2 04r8 * r9 : Tagging as r8. |
| 13:30.04 | Repo | - Added support for focus macros. Where a button has a macro with the name containing " Focus", the button will show buff/debuff times for the focus target. |
| 13:30.04 | Repo | - Added hardcoded filter for spells where it is preferable to see the cooldown instead of the buff/debuff time. Current spells are Judgement of Light and Mortal Strike. |
| 13:30.10 | Repo | - Fixed bug where changing target would reset the cooldown frames (causing the sparkle effect to appear on changing targets). |
| 13:37.41 | Kaelten | ZorbaTHut: accepted your file |
| 13:38.58 | Grum | Kaelten: what stuff are you implementing first for cclient? :) |
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| 13:39.45 | Kaelten | I'm not doing the implementation side, I'm handling product development and overseeing the developer. |
| 13:40.18 | Kaelten | But currently we're working on some low level overhauls to help fix the crashing issues and give us a better system to expand upon. |
| 13:40.33 | charon | pokes ckknight with packager r230 |
| 13:40.36 | charon | also, morning :) |
| 13:41.07 | ckknight | howdy |
| 13:42.38 | Kaelten | ckknight: packager crashed I think |
| 13:42.51 | Grum | Kaelten: you wrote you'd be implementing (yes read overseeing other people implementing; its just too long to type) a way to recognize installations of addons; when is that planned? i hope somewhere at the start ^^ |
| 13:43.25 | Kaelten | yes the recognization changes will be happening soon |
| 13:43.37 | Grum | atm i dont trust the curse-client not mucking up my addons atm .. kinda scary :( |
| 13:43.55 | Kaelten | in fact I've been fingerprinting our current files all night. |
| 13:44.28 | ckknight | aw yea |
| 13:44.30 | ckknight | all night long |
| 13:44.35 | Grum | are you fingerprinting individual files? how are you doing to recognize a certain release? |
| 13:45.08 | kagaro | Grum: would be easy if all fingerprinted, simple package of print to idenityf a release |
| 13:45.30 | Grum | well yes and no; how do you handle added/modified files? |
| 13:45.31 | Kaelten | Grum: I have multiple levels of fingerprints actually |
| 13:45.32 | ckknight | my IRC client is acting funny... |
| 13:45.34 | kagaro | rel 1.1 { xxx,yyy,zzz,mmm,ddd} |
| 13:45.46 | Kaelten | each individual file, and then each folder inside a zip |
| 13:45.49 | Kaelten | as well as the zip itself |
| 13:46.42 | Kaelten | we'll primarily be using the folder level for identifications |
| 13:46.43 | Grum | ah nice so you can actually easily recognize versions of libs |
| 13:47.02 | Grum | that will come in handy when you reimplement disembedding :D |
| 13:47.35 | kagaro | too bad ntfs isnt like hfs, you could tag the folder attributes with a version number |
| 13:48.21 | Kaelten | fuck, the script crashed |
| 13:48.38 | Grum | you calling ckk a script? cool =) |
| 13:48.42 | Kaelten | going to have to patch it and restart it |
| 13:48.48 | Kaelten | lol |
| 13:48.51 | Kaelten | no the fingerprinting script |
| 13:49.19 | Kaelten | fingerprinted more than 2.9m files |
| 13:49.35 | Kaelten | 74.6k folders |
| 13:49.45 | Kaelten | before it crashed |
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| 13:50.45 | Grum | Kaelten: what kind of space do you need to store all these files? :p |
| 13:51.33 | Kaelten | lets see |
| 13:51.37 | Kaelten | something like 100G |
| 13:53.02 | Grum | not too bad |
| 14:05.38 | ckknight | I should head in... |
| 14:06.10 | Kaelten | ya me too. been doing my morning forums routine |
| 14:09.37 | ckknight | I got a weird nosebleed for some reason, it's set me back |
| 14:09.57 | Kaelten | weird |
| 14:10.11 | charon | maybe you dreamt you were a boxer |
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| 14:10.31 | Grum | or headbanger and forgot there was a wall |
| 14:10.41 | ckknight | I boxed in high school |
| 14:10.50 | ckknight | but no, no dreams like that |
| 14:10.53 | Lothaer | hey anyone know which Damage Meter uses the least memory? |
| 14:11.05 | Grum | no dmgmeter |
| 14:11.13 | Grum | wowwebstats! :p |
| 14:12.00 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:12.53 | Lothaer | anyway i was asked about them cause someone is using Recount and its using like 15-18MB during BT raids |
| 14:14.09 | Pneumatus | so? |
| 14:15.11 | Lothaer | he was asking if there is a way to reduce it or if there are others that use less memeory |
| 14:15.14 | Pneumatus | tick "Keep Only Boss Segments" |
| 14:15.39 | Lothaer | kk |
| 14:15.40 | Pneumatus | that will reduce its memory use :) |
| 14:15.48 | Pneumatus | by only saving boss encounter stats |
| 14:15.57 | Pneumatus | rather than all the trash |
| 14:16.30 | Pneumatus | and untick any "record time data" options |
| 14:17.01 | Pneumatus | basically, only record what you need :) |
| 14:17.16 | Lothaer | cheers for that |
| 14:17.37 | Pneumatus | the result, however, is that you may lose some of the info you used to find usefl |
| 14:17.48 | Pneumatus | so you'll need to work out what data records you actually need, and what you dont :) |
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| 14:49.36 | AckisWork | would CF/Curse integration be a Curse issue or a CF issue? |
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| 15:05.23 | Elkano | yes, Ackis ;) |
| 15:07.41 | Repo | [WoW] 10petoverlay: 03cybermind 04v1.0.1 * r5 : Tagging as v1.0.1. |
| 15:09.42 | Repo | [WoW] 10petoverlay: 03cybermind 04v1.0.2 * r7 : |
| 15:09.42 | Repo | Tagging as v1.0.2. Finally got packaging working correctly. (No actual addon changes since 1.0) |
| 15:09.54 | AckisWork | lol Elkano yes what? :P hehe |
| 15:10.21 | Elkano | it was boolean, so yes was most likely the correct answer ^^ |
| 15:10.46 | Elkano | "Now you think in formulas!" ;) |
| 15:10.52 | AckisWork | haha :P |
| 15:10.56 | AckisWork | ~lart Elkano |
| 15:10.56 | purl | lowers Elkano's priority |
| 15:11.00 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:11.13 | Kuja^ | lol |
| 15:11.14 | AckisWork | I think after today engineering data will be somewhat accurate with ARL lol |
| 15:11.17 | Elkano | he could have just raised my nice level :( |
| 15:12.22 | Elkano | btw, we found the reason for the stock market collapsing: http://img2.abload.de/img/wowzorqmjc.jpg |
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| 15:37.37 | Grum | Elkano: omg he's raiding tanaris! o.O |
| 15:41.25 | charon | ckknight: what's the html output at top of the packager log? |
| 15:42.50 | nevcairiel | looks like a error message from the upload through HTML |
| 15:42.58 | nevcairiel | or rather, through http |
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| 17:24.26 | Antiarc | "Package As:" under Repository Options won't accept a period in the name |
| 17:24.32 | Antiarc | So I can't have it package as LibFoo-1.0 |
| 17:24.56 | nevcairiel | yeah thats broken |
| 17:25.00 | nevcairiel | set it in the .pkgmeta |
| 17:25.11 | nevcairiel | that overwrites the website option |
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| 17:27.51 | Repo | [WoW] 10shockandawe: 03Pericles * r74 / (8 files in 2 directories): ShockAndAwe: - |
| 17:27.52 | Repo | Drop ItemBonusLib-2.0 add LibGratuity-3.0 |
| 17:40.33 | Repo | [WoW] 10shockandawe: 03Pericles * r75 / (2 files in 1 directory): ShockAndAwe: - |
| 17:40.34 | Repo | dry coded changes to parse weapon dps |
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| 18:10.23 | Zhinjio | what is the "expected" size of a header image on curse? |
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| 18:45.38 | Kody- | http://www.curse.com/articles/wow-en-news/328546.aspx |
| 19:00.30 | Pneumatus | ghostcrawler needs to diaf |
| 19:03.36 | Dashkal | awww, did your class get nerfed? |
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| 19:13.32 | Dethnull | hello |
| 19:14.17 | Dashkal | mwrarf |
| 19:14.28 | Dethnull | I have a quick question. I uploaded a mod about 2 hours ago and its still says on curseforge that i have no files for my project even though the file is there |
| 19:15.09 | Dethnull | anyone know what its doing? |
| 19:15.23 | Dashkal | sec |
| 19:15.42 | Dashkal | name? |
| 19:15.49 | Dethnull | of the mod? |
| 19:15.52 | Dashkal | yeah |
| 19:15.55 | Dethnull | 5th action bar |
| 19:16.06 | Dethnull | for warhammer |
| 19:16.15 | Dashkal | hrm. what's the slug name of the project? (it'll be in the url) |
| 19:16.27 | Dethnull | give me asec to find it |
| 19:16.28 | Dashkal | Cause I see nothing like that in the approval queue |
| 19:16.50 | Dethnull | z5thactionbar |
| 19:17.20 | Dashkal | @project z5thactionbar |
| 19:17.20 | Repo | Dashkal: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/z5thactionbar/. 5th Action Bar. Game: WAR. Status: Waiting for file. Leader: seracy. Updated: 3 hours ago |
| 19:17.33 | Dethnull | that'd be me |
| 19:17.34 | Dashkal | I see the file, it's flagged as a beta |
| 19:17.48 | Dashkal | Did you intend it to be a release? |
| 19:17.48 | Dethnull | yea |
| 19:17.54 | Dethnull | .. well not really |
| 19:18.05 | Dethnull | it works.. but only somtimes.. |
| 19:18.08 | Dashkal | ahh ok then |
| 19:18.12 | Dashkal | *pokes further* |
| 19:18.36 | Dethnull | yea the thing works.. and it works pretty well when it does.. but i guess some people cant get it to show up or somthing |
| 19:18.40 | Dethnull | so .. beta seemed to fit |
| 19:18.48 | Dashkal | ckknight: shouldn't a project with only a beta syndicate to curse? |
| 19:19.01 | ckknight | it should... |
| 19:19.22 | Dashkal | mind taking a look? His project looks like it should be syndicating |
| 19:21.48 | Repo | [WoW] 10naz-guild-recruiter: 03gramg * r22 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:21.49 | Repo | -- Updated .pkgmeta and edited toc to no-lib-strip and use @project-version@ for version number |
| 19:22.53 | Dethnull | should I not flag it as beta? |
| 19:23.19 | Dashkal | Dethnull: no, you should be ok. |
| 19:23.44 | Dashkal | It would be kind of counter to normal development to make you post your first release before your first beta anyway |
| 19:24.52 | Repo | [WoW] 10naz-guild-recruiter: 03gramg 041.61b * r23 : |
| 19:24.53 | Repo | Tagging as 1.61b to attempt and fix externals as well as use 3.02 compatible ace2 |
| 19:25.03 | Dethnull | do what? |
| 19:25.54 | Dashkal | Sorry, in english. You should be fine, and we should be syndicating (publishing on curse.com) a project with only a beta |
| 19:26.23 | Dashkal | Beta expressex exactly the kind of warning you seem to want to give. "This works... mostly" |
| 19:26.26 | Dethnull | lol alright.. sorry im tired i got like 2 hours of sleep last night |
| 19:26.31 | Dashkal | expresses* |
| 19:26.37 | Dethnull | yes exaclty |
| 19:27.00 | Dethnull | I am no moder as of right now.. and managed to kinda mkae this work.. so a release is def a little far a way |
| 19:31.56 | Dethnull | Any luck on making it work? |
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| 19:39.19 | Dashkal | Not yet apparently. It may have to wait until a dev can take the time to fix it. Just a moderator so I can't actually force the syndication. ckk is aware of it now so it'll get done |
| 19:39.38 | Dethnull | Alright thanks a lot! |
| 19:39.50 | Dethnull | Im off for now thanks :) |
| 19:39.55 | Dashkal | Not a problem. Hopefully we can get it working soonish :p |
| 19:40.01 | Dethnull | yea me to |
| 19:41.15 | Dashkal | ckknight: should I file a ticket or report the project or something to keep it on the todo for when time permits? |
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| 19:57.30 | ckknight | Dashkal: edit project -> save |
| 19:57.33 | ckknight | that makes it sync |
| 19:57.56 | Dashkal | immediately or 0-5 minutes? |
| 20:04.30 | Dashkal | 5 minutes later that question becomes moot. Not syndicating. The we will not syndicate unless you have at least one beta or release file message is still there |
| 20:06.08 | AckisWork | Dashkal: it's a bug, just edit the file and set it to release then back to beta and it'll syndicate (did it for this project already to verify) |
| 20:06.29 | Dashkal | AckisWork: kk. |
| 20:06.43 | Dashkal | Too bad I don't know of a way to reproduce it. Cause that deserves a ticket |
| 20:06.53 | AckisWork | it's easy to reproduce actually |
| 20:07.02 | AckisWork | create a project and mark the very first file as a beta |
| 20:07.20 | AckisWork | I thought I had a ticket for it tbh |
| 20:07.33 | Repo | [WoW] 10wim-3: 03Pazza * r116 / (5 files in 3 directories): |
| 20:07.34 | Repo | *Socket only compresses large transmissions to minimize resource usage. |
| 20:07.35 | Repo | *Attempt at stopping minimize crashing. |
| 20:07.37 | Repo | *Attempt at fixing tab and lag issue. |
| 20:07.38 | Dashkal | good enough then, and thanks for the workaround. I'll do that next time it comes up |
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| 20:08.53 | AckisWork | @ticket curseforge 813 |
| 20:08.53 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/813-new-project-with-beta-file-does-not-syndicate/. 813 - New project with beta file does not syndicate. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Defect. Updated: 7 days ago. Component: Syndication. Status: New. Priority: High. Votes: 0. Comments: 1 |
| 20:09.41 | AckisWork | @ticket curseforge 800 |
| 20:09.41 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/800-file-notification-not-updating-on-file-upload/. 800 - File Notification not updating on file upload. Reported by: Derkyle. Type: Defect. Updated: 6 days ago. Component: Projects. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Votes: +3. Comments: 3 |
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| 20:29.58 | ckknight | http://www.thedailyweird.com/miscellaneous/predator-pumpkin/ |
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| 20:37.05 | Repo | [WAR] 10multiauction_auctionstats: 03Odlaw * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): MultiAuction_AuctionStats: Initial commit |
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| 21:15.32 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-repo-hooks: 03anmoch 06anmochs-clone * r207 git-hooks/post-receive.d/repo_bot.py: git: announce commit counts with new refs |
| 21:15.33 | Repo | Computes the number of commits that were not on any previously |
| 21:15.33 | Repo | existing ref, and announces that along with the new ref. Kind of |
| 21:15.34 | Repo | expensive but nice to see. |
| 21:15.40 | charon | ckknight: ^ |
| 21:15.42 | charon | lightly tested |
| 21:16.00 | ckknight | okay, hang on |
| 21:16.37 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-repo-hooks: 03ckknight * r207 / (2 files in 2 directories): git: announce commit counts with new refs (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 21:16.37 | Repo | Computes the number of commits that were not on any previously |
| 21:16.38 | Repo | existing ref, and announces that along with the new ref. Kind of |
| 21:16.39 | Repo | expensive but nice to see. |
| 21:16.39 | Repo | Restore strict encoding checking |
| 21:16.51 | charon | also, have you merged my packager fix? |
| 21:16.54 | ckknight | no |
| 21:16.59 | charon | heh |
| 21:17.10 | ckknight | been real busy |
| 21:17.12 | charon | it'll blow up again if someone does a non-trunk commit on a repo that hasn't seen any trunk commits in a month |
| 21:17.17 | charon | not a huge risk but it happened today |
| 21:17.36 | charon | nothing new there :> |
| 21:18.35 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03ckknight * r230 / (2 files in 1 directory): svn: Fix _get_revision() to not depend on recent trunk commits (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 21:18.35 | Repo | _get_revision() would blow up if there weren't any trunk commits |
| 21:18.36 | Repo | within the last month, which makes the changelog empty. Replace with |
| 21:18.36 | Repo | 'svn info' output to get the last changed revision. |
| 21:18.37 | Repo | Guard re-encoding with the same test as decoding |
| 21:18.48 | ckknight | okay, charon |
| 21:19.01 | charon | thx |
| 21:19.04 | ckknight | thanks a lot |
| 21:19.12 | charon | i'll stick around until someone commits to see if it breaks... too lazy to test myself |
| 21:19.31 | ckknight | at the final stretch of the sqlalchemy transition (code-wise, not testing or deployment) |
| 21:19.38 | charon | sqlalchemy? |
| 21:20.02 | charon | oh, google knows about that. :) |
| 21:20.44 | ckknight | we're moving away from django |
| 21:22.50 | charon | is it too slow or limited? (out of sheer curiosity... i've managed to avoid web work) |
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| 21:39.28 | Repo | [WoW] 10test-svn-project: 03anmoch * r2 test.lua: Test commit |
| 21:39.29 | Repo | Not only does this compile, it also runs without errors! |
| 21:40.27 | charon | hrm, that didn't work |
| 21:40.52 | charon | oh |
| 21:41.20 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03anmoch 06anmoch * r231 svn.py: braino |
| 21:41.21 | charon | ckknight: ^ |
| 21:41.30 | ckknight | mmm... brains |
| 21:41.37 | charon | i keep getting confused by the different semantics of svn()/git() in packager and hooks :( |
| 21:41.44 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03ckknight * r231 svn.py: braino |
| 21:43.46 | charon | also, i suck. |
| 21:44.21 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03anmoch 06anmoch * r232 svn.py: more braiiiinnns for ckknight |
| 21:44.57 | charon | i can't believe i wrote this code when i was sober |
| 21:45.34 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03ckknight * r232 svn.py: more braiiiinnns for ckknight |
| 21:46.25 | Aiiane | charon: maybe you were actually drunk, but the drunkeness made you think you were sober? |
| 21:47.25 | Repo | [WoW] 10test-svn-project: 03anmoch * r3 test.lua: another test |
| 21:49.03 | charon | wow, it worked. |
| 21:49.06 | ckknight | yay |
| 21:49.10 | ckknight | nosebleeds are annoying |
| 21:49.24 | ckknight | always smells like metal for the longest time... |
| 21:49.35 | charon | Aiiane: that would be pretty sad, seeing as i wrote it before dinner. i don't really object to a beer before dinner, but i try not to get drunk before 9pm or so |
| 21:50.02 | Aiiane | I just don't get drunk period >.> |
| 21:50.37 | Grum | getting drunk during weekdays? o.O |
| 21:50.39 | charon | shrugs |
| 21:50.44 | charon | i had three glasses of red wine |
| 21:50.50 | Grum | ALCOHOLIC! |
| 21:50.54 | charon | clearly |
| 21:51.07 | Grum | thats 3/4th of a bottle! |
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| 21:51.48 | charon | note to self: never move to the netherlands. they have terribly small bottles of wine. |
| 21:52.07 | Grum | lol regular bottles are 70cl i think :) |
| 21:52.32 | charon | this one is 75cl in fact |
| 21:52.49 | Grum | regular glasses (red whine) gets about 4 from em |
| 21:56.04 | Repo | [WoW] 10test-git-project: 03anmoch 07master * v0.8-2-g2d422eb /: [+2 commits] |
| 21:56.04 | Repo | 2d422eb: recode to ascii |
| 21:56.05 | Repo | b08d643: recode to utf-16-le with bom |
| 21:56.05 | Repo | [WoW] 10test-git-project: 03anmoch 07side * v0.8-1-gb8c195a / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, 0 commits] |
| 21:56.07 | charon | darn, that code has an off-by-1 too |
| 21:57.47 | charon | ckknight: btw, your merge of my repo-hook branch also snuck in the strict checking again. forgot to mention that, you'll have to weaken it again if you want to please Aii |
| 21:58.20 | ckknight | so WAR is utf-16-le and latin-1 or something else? |
| 21:58.26 | charon | utf-16-le or ascii |
| 21:58.29 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 21:58.41 | charon | latin-1 isn't strict by any standards because it accepts any file |
| 21:58.53 | ckknight | true |
| 21:59.04 | ckknight | WoW should be utf-8 only and nothing else |
| 21:59.08 | charon | it is |
| 21:59.12 | ckknight | okay, good |
| 21:59.55 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-repo-hooks: 03anmoch 06anmochs-clone * r208 git-hooks/post-receive.d/repo_bot.py: git: fix off-by-one in new revision counting |
| 21:59.56 | Repo | Also adds '+' characters to the format for consistency |
| 22:00.55 | charon | iirc, nev's and my opinion was that people need to learn to utf{8,16} properly because latin1 is bound to break eventually and should die, while aii figured it worked (though i never found out if it's actually latin1 or win1252) and therefore should be accepted |
| 22:01.14 | ckknight | I'm more prone to forcing unicode |
| 22:01.16 | charon | then again the file aii stumbled across last weekend wasn't proper utf16 or latin1 ... it was utf8. which WAR doesn't understand. |
| 22:01.23 | ckknight | and informing the public |
| 22:01.33 | ckknight | ah. |
| 22:01.42 | charon | the encoding FAQ claims the hooks enforce utf{8,16}, but nobody reads it afaik |
| 22:01.54 | ckknight | as long as there's documentation, that's what's important |
| 22:02.06 | ckknight | then it is the responsibility of those who did not RTFM |
| 22:02.11 | charon | heh :) |
| 22:02.29 | charon | mind deploying the last fix? |
| 22:07.10 | charon | ckknight: pretty please? :) |
| 22:07.19 | ckknight | k, hang on |
| 22:07.32 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-repo-hooks: 03ckknight * r208 git-hooks/post-receive.d/repo_bot.py: git: fix off-by-one in new revision counting |
| 22:07.32 | Repo | Also adds '+' characters to the format for consistency |
| 22:07.51 | Repo | [WoW] 10test-git-project: 03anmoch 07side * /: [deleted] |
| 22:08.00 | Repo | [WoW] 10test-git-project: 03anmoch 07side * v0.8-1-gb8c195a / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commits] |
| 22:08.55 | Repo | [WoW] 10test-git-project: 03anmoch 04random-side-tag * 3a5b533 /: [new tag, +2 commits] only a test |
| 22:09.01 | charon | yay, that works too. |
| 22:09.22 | charon | unfortunately it sort of breaks down when you do a multi-ref push where several are new |
| 22:09.45 | charon | right now it won't report commits as new if they are shared between several new refs |
| 22:10.07 | charon | i have an idea how to fix this, but that's for another day. i'm tired and going home. |
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| 22:10.28 | ckknight | *thumbs up*, charon |
| 22:10.51 | charon | night all :) |
| 22:10.52 | Kiaos | Hey guys I just posted an Fourm about an new mod I would like to suggest. |
| 22:11.06 | Kiaos | http://forums.curseforge.com/showthread.php?t=14866 |
| 22:11.18 | Kiaos | read it love it think about it |
| 22:11.39 | Kiaos | I personaly dont know how to code |
| 22:11.48 | Kiaos | or else i would do it my self |
| 22:12.02 | Grum | Smells like AuldLangSyne mostly |
| 22:12.48 | Kiaos | ??/ |
| 22:12.52 | Kiaos | explain |
| 22:14.17 | Grum | addon search for it :) |
| 22:14.40 | Kiaos | kk |
| 22:16.19 | Grum | sorry was fighting KJ at the same time >< .. but auldlangsyne does at least some of what you want i think |
| 22:16.39 | Kiaos | Yeah It kida does |
| 22:16.44 | Kiaos | kinda* |
| 22:17.24 | Kiaos | is author still active? |
| 22:18.16 | Kiaos | what about this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296488358&sid=1 |
| 22:18.26 | Kiaos | diffrent suggestion |
| 22:18.32 | Kiaos | its about the calender |
| 22:19.51 | Kiaos | nv mind its an wow suggetion |
| 22:20.05 | Kiaos | gms dont write in any posts i make |
| 22:20.47 | Kiaos | hey ckknight im an big fan of your mods man good job!!!! |
| 22:20.55 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 22:21.32 | ckknight | how you doing? |
| 22:21.34 | Kiaos | But Ive been running into some errors and conflicts I have some debug info for cartographer where do i post it |
| 22:21.42 | ckknight | 2 or 3? |
| 22:21.56 | Kiaos | I dont like 3 and i dont know what 2 is |
| 22:22.03 | ckknight | 2 is the normal one |
| 22:22.07 | Grum | if only ckk would update his mod! =) |
| 22:22.09 | Kiaos | ok its 2 then |
| 22:22.09 | ckknight | it has a ticket tracker on wowace |
| 22:22.21 | Grum | cowtip still crashes people @ M'uru/KJ :( |
| 22:22.22 | ckknight | granted, the best way to get it fixed would be to fix it yourself |
| 22:22.25 | Kiaos | wow ace |
| 22:22.27 | ckknight | Grum: srsly? dang |
| 22:22.34 | Grum | or hummz |
| 22:22.39 | Grum | they might not have the latest revision |
| 22:22.40 | Kiaos | dude if i could code i would |
| 22:22.44 | ckknight | it's very unlikely I'll get around to fixing things |
| 22:22.45 | Grum | i'll check it now |
| 22:23.07 | ckknight | Kiaos: ah, okay. Frankly, if you do start looking to code, hacking on someone else's abandoned framework isn't the best way |
| 22:23.16 | Grum | i did see you did an update; not sure if it makes a diff |
| 22:23.43 | Kiaos | was i hacking someone framework? |
| 22:24.54 | Grum | ckknight: testing cowtip the last revision @ KJ atm; will let you know |
| 22:24.58 | Grum | it 100% crashed me before |
| 22:25.04 | ckknight | crashed WoW? |
| 22:25.05 | Kiaos | lol |
| 22:25.06 | Grum | yes |
| 22:25.11 | ckknight | dang |
| 22:25.11 | Grum | my complete UI just BOOOOOOMED |
| 22:25.18 | ckknight | I'm calling that a Blizz bug |
| 22:25.22 | ckknight | but still |
| 22:25.26 | ckknight | it'd be good to fix on my end |
| 22:25.26 | Grum | yeah |
| 22:25.33 | Grum | also no debug info :( |
| 22:26.02 | Kiaos | lol dude I have 61.1mb of mods installed and i need them all to enjoy wow |
| 22:26.19 | Kiaos | I love mods man thats why im an big fan |
| 22:26.48 | ckknight | hehe |
| 22:26.51 | Kiaos | and most of the time i get wow debug confilicts |
| 22:26.58 | Kiaos | cause of conflicting mods |
| 22:27.16 | Kiaos | so I have an mod that auto ingnores them |
| 22:27.20 | Kiaos | rofl |
| 22:29.04 | Kiaos | s does anyone here use vent |
| 22:29.25 | ckknight | I have used vent previously |
| 22:29.39 | Kiaos | what does that mean? |
| 22:30.53 | Kiaos | whats the policy on irc about posting vent info |
| 22:31.35 | Pneumatus | irc has policies?! |
| 22:31.51 | Dashkal | These are logged channels. It's probably inappropriate to post vent logs. That said, I'm unaware of a specific policy. |
| 22:31.52 | Kiaos | well i didnt know and didnt want to break rules |
| 22:31.56 | Dashkal | erm, vent contact info |
| 22:32.25 | Kiaos | powersthatbe.servegame.org 3787 |
| 22:32.45 | Kiaos | its my personaly vent |
| 22:32.50 | Kiaos | personal* |
| 22:32.58 | Dashkal | Well, you just stuck it into a google-reachable log. Your risk :p |
| 22:33.08 | Kiaos | not too worried |
| 22:33.17 | Kiaos | I can put password on it anytime |
| 22:33.36 | Kiaos | I dont use it so im not worried about muchers |
| 22:33.52 | Kiaos | its going to be shut down in febuary |
| 22:34.03 | Kiaos | Im not paying for it so |
| 22:34.35 | Dashkal | Um, ok... so what's the point of posting it? |
| 22:34.53 | Kiaos | So i can talk to who ever wants to talk on vent |
| 22:35.22 | Grum | if you want your ventserver in this channel .. you just paste it .. no-one cares |
| 22:35.46 | Kiaos | thats fine at least someone will use it |
| 22:35.54 | Kiaos | cause i dont |
| 22:37.23 | Kiaos | so whats the best way to learn addon coding? |
| 22:39.01 | Kiaos | BT3 FTW |
| 22:39.26 | Dashkal | bt3 is dead. long live bt4 |
| 22:39.37 | Kiaos | realy they have 4 now |
| 22:39.50 | Kiaos | dude where is link ima download now |
| 22:40.12 | nevcairiel | where have you been living? 3 didnt even work on WoW 3.0 anymore |
| 22:40.24 | Dashkal | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/bartender4.aspx |
| 22:40.57 | Dashkal | ckknight: what project should I file a ticket asking for a repo command to take me directly to the curse link (like @project for wowace/curseforge)? |
| 22:41.16 | Dashkal | I think I missed more than one word there... |
| 22:41.28 | ckknight | repobot |
| 22:41.30 | Dashkal | kk |
| 22:41.34 | ckknight | @project curseforge-repobot |
| 22:41.34 | Repo | ckknight: No project found that matches 'curseforge-repobot' |
| 22:41.35 | Kiaos | ROFLMAOcopter I dont mean Bartender 3 I ment Back|Track 3 |
| 22:41.38 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 22:41.43 | Dashkal | @project repobot |
| 22:41.43 | Repo | Dashkal: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/repobot/. CurseForge Repo bot. Leader: ckknight. Updated: 35 days ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
| 22:41.45 | Kiaos | lol |
| 22:41.53 | ckknight | there it is |
| 22:42.35 | Kiaos | sorry im an Trinitybars/Macaron |
| 22:42.49 | Kiaos | live the mod better |
| 22:42.54 | Kiaos | like* |
| 22:43.24 | Dashkal | @ticket repobot 2 |
| 22:43.24 | Repo | Dashkal: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/repobot/tickets/2-command-to-get-a-link-to-the-curse-project-page/. 2 - Command to get a link to the curse project page. Reported by: Dashkal. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 8 seconds ago. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: 0. Comments: 0 |
| 22:43.37 | ckknight | okay, Dashkal |
| 22:43.40 | ckknight | now write it. |
| 22:43.42 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:43.49 | ckknight | lulz. |
| 22:43.54 | Dashkal | ~rmallet ckknight |
| 22:43.55 | purl | ACTION beats ckknight about the head and shoulders with a rubber mallet |
| 22:43.57 | ckknight | project.get_curse_url() |
| 22:44.15 | Grum | json search api avail on curse.com? ^^ |
| 22:44.45 | Kiaos | wish Maul used curse IRC |
| 22:45.03 | Kiaos | he is another one of my heros in the mod world |
| 22:45.23 | Grum | which addon? |
| 22:45.30 | Dashkal | Competition is good. The sites can keep driving each other forward |
| 22:45.34 | Kiaos | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10636-Macaroon.html |
| 22:46.10 | Kiaos | it used to be http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/trinity-bars-2-0.aspx |
| 22:46.22 | Dashkal | Macaroon would be perfect for me if it had the ability to use actionids when I wanted to. I don't want to have my character be unplayable on other computers. |
| 22:46.33 | Repo | [WoW] 10zdkp: 03Ziggedy * r19 / (3 files in 1 directory): ZiggaDKP: |
| 22:46.33 | Kiaos | it does man |
| 22:46.33 | Repo | ReImplementing DDMs |
| 22:46.34 | Repo | ZiggaDKP.Xml: |
| 22:46.36 | Repo | ReImplementing DDMs |
| 22:46.40 | Kiaos | it uses action ids |
| 22:46.53 | Kiaos | and you can customids where the ids go too |
| 22:47.15 | Kiaos | its so much better than bartender in my opinion |
| 22:47.20 | nevcairiel | thats why i never did any unlimited buttons or whatever, don't want to be totally screwed of addons break |
| 22:47.26 | nevcairiel | *if |
| 22:47.37 | Kiaos | Oh guys I early voted today |
| 22:47.51 | Kiaos | not talking about politics though |
| 22:48.06 | Dashkal | Kiaos: Sweet. More people voting == good. |
| 22:48.09 | Kiaos | Im proud of my self it was the first time voting |
| 22:48.13 | Kiaos | im 21 |
| 22:48.22 | Dashkal | Kiaos: wait what? The page claimed unlimited buttons. That immediately means not using actionIDs. Does it allow you to make specific bars use the ids instead? |
| 22:48.29 | Kiaos | saw an couple of cute chicks at voting booth |
| 22:48.38 | Dashkal | Even better. It's a bitch convincing younger people to vote |
| 22:48.39 | Kiaos | smoking hot |
| 22:48.42 | Grum | sorry for you Kiaos:( |
| 22:48.58 | Kiaos | got both of ther enumbers |
| 22:49.23 | Kiaos | ima call one right now |
| 22:49.55 | Grum | no crashes yet Ckk :) |
| 22:51.14 | Kiaos | hey ckk how do i disable waypoints tomtom and cartographer gives me two |
| 22:51.33 | ckknight | go to the options and disable the waypoints module |
| 22:52.01 | Kiaos | is tomtom cross compatible with cart? |
| 22:52.32 | Kiaos | i mean witicc one is better to use |
| 22:52.40 | Kiaos | whitch |
| 22:53.36 | Kiaos | does anyone know why certin addons are red? |
| 22:53.46 | Kiaos | in addon list |
| 22:54.54 | Kiaos | Dashkal yes you can chose to use Ids insted of macro buttons |
| 22:55.14 | Dashkal | Kiaos: *blink* no shit. Ok, downloading that tonight |
| 22:55.15 | Kiaos | but you will run into no more space once you use the ids |
| 22:55.42 | Kiaos | one sec ill tell you how many ids there are |
| 22:55.50 | Dashkal | I am currently playing on the blizzard bars. I'm limited already since I need to use the same pages in any bar mod (see my desire to be able to play without my UI) |
| 22:56.12 | Kiaos | yeah want to see my UI? |
| 22:56.39 | Dashkal | nah, too many things on the brain to really look at it |
| 22:56.44 | Dashkal | (at work, and am actively working) |
| 22:57.06 | Repo | [WoW] 10shockandawe: 03Pericles * r76 / (9 files in 2 directories): ShockAndAwe: - |
| 22:57.07 | Repo | commit of work done - needs more testing |
| 22:57.30 | Kiaos | kk dashkal |
| 22:58.55 | Kiaos | http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mydefaultuitz0.jpg for anyone who wants to see other than Dashkal |
| 22:59.35 | Dashkal | ooh! Piece of candy! *clicks* Damnit! |
| 22:59.50 | Kiaos | lol |
| 22:59.58 | Kiaos | cookie jat FTW |
| 23:00.02 | Kiaos | JAR* |
| 23:00.23 | Dashkal | It's information overload to me, but then I don't know it like you do. (My old one was similar in that regard) |
| 23:01.09 | Dashkal | I switched to a mostly vanilla UI with WotLK beta and decided I mostly like it. My addons are much more subtle now |
| 23:01.23 | Kiaos | show me your UI |
| 23:01.28 | Kiaos | I want to see' |
| 23:02.01 | Kiaos | So how many people here been in beta |
| 23:02.09 | Kiaos | Is it fun? |
| 23:02.41 | Dashkal | I don't have it handy. THe UI I'm using atm is stock with Fotress (and only two data blocks) SexyMap with no eye candy (I turned off the cool runes -- too distracting) and EBB for buffs cause the blizzard buffs suck balls |
| 23:02.58 | Dashkal | Kiaos: The 13th can't come soon enough. I.fucking.WANT |
| 23:03.16 | Dashkal | ahem |
| 23:03.29 | Kiaos | WotLK might nerf Twinks and put xp in battlegrounds *Kiaos Cries for his 39 druid Twink* |
| 23:03.52 | Kiaos | got my WotLKon preorder |
| 23:04.09 | Grum | everyone does :P |
| 23:04.11 | Dashkal | as is mine. I'll be heading in thursday morning. Then promptly suffering all day cause I work |
| 23:04.20 | Grum | took 4 weeks off |
| 23:04.34 | Kiaos | oh guys just to let you know im not an clicker I dont belive in smashing my action bars whats why my UI ius like that |
| 23:04.51 | Kiaos | took 4 days offf |
| 23:05.06 | Kiaos | im an keybinder |
| 23:05.16 | Kiaos | anyone here play on senjin server? |
| 23:06.04 | Kiaos | guess thats an no |
| 23:06.08 | Dashkal | I'm a clicker :p I put my critical skills on 1-6 so I can reach them, but everything else I click |
| 23:06.35 | Dashkal | I play a feral cat. Can get away with it. Gonna have issues on my DK. More buttons than I can reach |
| 23:06.45 | Kiaos | I have http://catalog.belkin.com/images/product/F8GFPC200/FUL1_F8GFPC200.jpg |
| 23:07.28 | Kiaos | and use keybinds E,Q,R,T,F,C,V,X,Z and shift alt and cnrl |
| 23:07.37 | Dashkal | That's twice that's been recomeneded to be in two days |
| 23:07.57 | Kiaos | so thats E,Q,R,T,F,C,V,X,Z times three |
| 23:09.29 | Kiaos | this N52te is perfect for pvp |
| 23:09.39 | Kiaos | wish it was slightly bigger |
| 23:10.50 | Kiaos | Oh and I would own all of you If Pheba my Disc priest had her vendicator set |
| 23:11.04 | Kiaos | just absolutly own face |
| 23:11.47 | Kiaos | Disc priests Own Shadow in pvp |
| 23:12.02 | Kiaos | and there very capable healers too |
| 23:12.10 | Kiaos | pentence for the win |
| 23:12.41 | Dashkal | Barking up the wrong tree for that. I hate PvP. With a passion |
| 23:12.50 | Dashkal | <-- Proud to be a carebear |
| 23:13.11 | Kiaos | then I will gank you if your horde if your alli yor my best firend |
| 23:13.20 | Kiaos | friend |
| 23:13.57 | Kiaos | dude macaroon has the capablity to keybind on the fly man |
| 23:14.17 | Kiaos | perfect for swiching keybinds |
| 23:15.41 | Kiaos | does anyone know if its illegal to sell addons to people as guides cause I found one without paying for it |
| 23:16.36 | Grum | addons are free by default |
| 23:16.40 | Grum | if not you shouldnt use it |
| 23:16.40 | Dashkal | Oh I respond to ganking :p We take gankers and camp them until they spirit rez. Nothing fair about my response :p |
| 23:16.49 | Dashkal | That said, alli |
| 23:17.14 | Grum | and its not illegal just beyond lame to make money of something someone else created for free |
| 23:17.53 | Dashkal | This is a legal can of worms. If you sell an addon, you redistributed it. It's legal if and only if you have the right to redistribute it. |
| 23:17.55 | Kiaos | kk cause ckknight someone is selling tomtom in an packaged mod to people for 40 bucks |
| 23:18.07 | Kiaos | whant the website? |
| 23:18.13 | *** join/#curseforge doom0r (i=Doom0r@c-24-1-33-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:19.52 | Dashkal | The author may be interested (memory fail, I forget who did tomtom) |
| 23:19.55 | Grum | lol yes show :P |
| 23:19.58 | Kiaos | http://www.zygorguides.com/ and they use tomtom in the package |
| 23:20.16 | Kiaos | before tomtom they used cartogrpher |
| 23:20.26 | Grum | erm |
| 23:20.43 | Kiaos | so its an rip off of cKKnight |
| 23:20.57 | ckknight | not a rip off |
| 23:21.00 | ckknight | I worked with him |
| 23:21.05 | Kiaos | oh realy?> |
| 23:21.09 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:21.17 | Kiaos | kk wanted to know |
| 23:21.24 | Grum | they dont sell the addon likely |
| 23:21.28 | Grum | just the quest-data linked with it |
| 23:21.53 | Kiaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.56 | ckknight | and technically both Cart and TomTom are open source, so him selling them is fine |
| 23:21.57 | Dashkal | And that's a very different thing. Nothing at all immoral for charging for your own work (the data sets). And if the addon allows redistribution, it just makes sense to bundle it in |
| 23:22.04 | Grum | ckknight: depends on the licence |
| 23:22.13 | ckknight | that's why I said open source |
| 23:22.31 | ckknight | if you don't have the right to distribute it, it doesn't follow the open source definition |
| 23:22.34 | Dashkal | Grum: "Open Source" implies the right to redistribute. The term has a specific meaning |
| 23:22.55 | Kiaos | so me stealing the addon from torrents is ok? |
| 23:23.18 | Grum | no that is stealing |
| 23:23.40 | Kiaos | Open Sourcebut tomtom is |
| 23:23.46 | Dashkal | The addon itself you can just go download. Don't go steal the data sets |
| 23:23.48 | Kiaos | but tomtom is |
| 23:23.56 | Kiaos | oh ok |
| 23:24.16 | Dashkal | And forget torrents, go get it from the official site. If nothing else you can be sure you have the most up-to-date version |
| 23:25.06 | Kiaos | dude mine works for sure people are crazy about updating stolen products. |
| 23:25.20 | Kiaos | but if I need to ill buy it |
| 23:26.37 | Dashkal | If you get your downloads directly from (shameless plug) curse, you can be pretty sure you got it legitametely. We're pretty strict about not offering addons we don't have permission to offer. |
| 23:26.50 | Kiaos | kk |
| 23:26.52 | Grum | i wonder where you found a torrent containing the right version though ^^ |
| 23:26.55 | Kiaos | just making sure |
| 23:27.10 | Dashkal | (disloyal plug) Wowinterface is also pretty damn good about that. I dunno about wowui. I don't use that one |
| 23:27.22 | Kiaos | The pirate bay for the win and you cant shut it down trust me everyones tried |
| 23:27.26 | Grum | wowmatrix ftw |
| 23:27.32 | Dashkal | ~stab Grum |
| 23:27.33 | purl | ACTION runs at Grum with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 23:27.42 | Grum | kiaos seach keyword? |
| 23:28.23 | Kiaos | Smite me almighty smiter!!! |
| 23:28.25 | Kiaos | It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and im all outa gum! |
| 23:28.38 | Kiaos | sorry had ti kick that out copy |
| 23:29.18 | Kiaos | http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4460728/Zygor_Horde__amp__Alliance_InGame_Guide_for_3.0.2_10_21_08 |
| 23:29.49 | Kiaos | there |
| 23:29.58 | Grum | i'm kinda curious what kind of data he is storing |
| 23:30.29 | Kiaos | And even if you tried you cant stop http://thepiratebay.org from keeping that torrent |
| 23:30.46 | Dashkal | As for TPB, I dunno just how immune they are. They certainly seem to be pretty safe legally, but at some point one too many large groups will get pissed and start a persistant DDOS |
| 23:31.07 | Dashkal | I mean, if they completely isolate themselves legally, they have no recourse |
| 23:31.11 | Grum | that has already happened Dashkal |
| 23:31.14 | Grum | they just move |
| 23:31.23 | Dashkal | Grum: Don't ever turn off the DDOS |
| 23:31.33 | Grum | it will get filtered |
| 23:31.34 | Dashkal | Update with the DNS |
| 23:31.47 | Dashkal | The point wouldn't be to break TPB servers, it would be to melt the ISP hosting them |
| 23:31.47 | Grum | they just take another host :) |
| 23:31.52 | Dashkal | over, and over, and over |
| 23:31.56 | Kiaos | yeah dude they move servers daily or thats there plan |
| 23:31.59 | Dashkal | bring enough down and nobody would touch them |
| 23:32.11 | Kiaos | they have so much money being donated |
| 23:32.29 | Grum | DDOSing is the equivalent of killing people to get to someone |
| 23:32.32 | Kiaos | it would put you mod authors to shame how many donations they get |
| 23:32.34 | Grum | at least in sysadmins eyes |
| 23:32.36 | Dashkal | Point I'm trying to make is that they aren't totally immune. There are (very) large scale attacks that would crater them |
| 23:32.57 | Grum | Dashkal: the thing is; you can take the site offline; it will just pop up somewhere else |
| 23:33.07 | Dashkal | Grum: I dunno, with the MAFFIAA being what it is, I wouldn't rule out assassination attempts :p |
| 23:33.11 | Kiaos | well then you get mininova and all the other torernts sites |
| 23:33.16 | Grum | and trust me; by the 3rd host the DDOS is stopped for 80+% |
| 23:33.23 | Kiaos | and when one falls another arieses |
| 23:33.45 | Kiaos | its like trying to kill flies man |
| 23:33.52 | Dashkal | Kiaos: certainly. Killing torrent entirely is unlikely. But don't fool yourself into thinking it impossible. There are fundamental shifts that could obliterate it permanently |
| 23:34.04 | Kiaos | like? |
| 23:34.05 | Grum | Dashkal: you're wrong |
| 23:34.06 | Dashkal | Example: Cut off inter-country internet |
| 23:34.10 | Grum | only law can push it underground |
| 23:34.23 | Dashkal | Jail ISP managers who allows unapproved content |
| 23:34.25 | Grum | nothing more can happen other than that; and for that you'd need some hefty lawchanges all around the world |
| 23:34.30 | Kiaos | and then theres proxying through diffrent ports |
| 23:34.38 | Dashkal | Ban encrypted content of any kind |
| 23:34.42 | Kiaos | dude I could barage this topic all day |
| 23:34.47 | Grum | its even simpler; just encrypt the datastreams |
| 23:34.48 | Dashkal | Cannot be read by my filter == go to jail |
| 23:34.56 | Grum | Dashkal: oyu cant say from a datastream if its crypted or not |
| 23:35.06 | Grum | you can only say if its *NOT* crypted if you can recognize it |
| 23:35.08 | Dashkal | Grum: Any unknown data would be assumed ecrypted |
| 23:35.13 | Kiaos | well torrents are unencrpted |
| 23:35.20 | Grum | no they are not Kiaos |
| 23:35.21 | Kiaos | and everyones ip is listed |
| 23:35.25 | Dashkal | Kiaos: many clients support an encrypted layer |
| 23:35.33 | Kiaos | realy |
| 23:35.34 | Grum | Kiaos: that is the biggest flaw in the system |
| 23:35.38 | Kiaos | utorrent? |
| 23:35.40 | Grum | but also the biggest advantage |
| 23:35.47 | Grum | yeah utorrent can do torrents via SSL |
| 23:35.54 | Kiaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.58 | Kiaos | Id like to know |
| 23:36.01 | Grum | dunno; i dont use torrents |
| 23:36.03 | Grum | its stupid |
| 23:36.08 | Grum | i dont leave my ip at random people |
| 23:36.21 | Kiaos | got norton and nothing worth stealing |
| 23:36.22 | Dashkal | I absolutely agree that killing torrents (and to the larger issue) piracy is damn hard. But don't fool yourself into thinking impossible. |
| 23:36.36 | Grum | Dashkal: global law has to change |
| 23:36.40 | Grum | before that happens ... meh |
| 23:36.52 | Grum | but most likely; the ISPs will ban the traffic |
| 23:36.53 | Dashkal | Grum: No, only the laws of whatever country you happen to be in |
| 23:36.55 | Kiaos | well it will be inpossible if all the countrys dont ban together |
| 23:37.02 | Grum | its taking up way too much of the bandwidth as it is already |
| 23:37.06 | Dashkal | With the switch of a few routers a country can be taken off the internet |
| 23:37.14 | Dashkal | And some do |
| 23:37.19 | Grum | Dashkal: and they need laws to approve that kind of actions |
| 23:37.19 | Dashkal | *cough* N Korea *cough* |
| 23:37.44 | Dashkal | Grum: Go have a look at the Australian or British legal system and tell me that those laws can't be passed. |
| 23:37.51 | Grum | it doesnt matter |
| 23:38.14 | Grum | do you think countries like iran/irak care for what they agree there? |
| 23:38.20 | Grum | (just an example) |
| 23:38.33 | Grum | there is lots of places where they will just ignore whatever someone else makes up |
| 23:38.44 | Dashkal | Certainly. But they have to be on the internet to matter. |
| 23:38.54 | Dashkal | That infrastructure is very much subject to the laws of the greater powers |
| 23:39.05 | Grum | and without lawchanges they cannot just cut people of the internet ;) |
| 23:39.21 | Dashkal | "without lawchanges" you keep mentioning that like that's difficult |
| 23:39.30 | Grum | it is |
| 23:39.46 | Grum | no-one cares enough about software piracy |
| 23:39.49 | Dashkal | see note above about the UK and Australia. The US I'll reserve judgement until after the 4th |
| 23:40.02 | Dashkal | software, maybe. entertainment, very much they do |
| 23:40.10 | Dashkal | People with deep pockets and teh politicians who want that money |
| 23:40.25 | Grum | so they make rules and ban torrents .. what will then flare? |
| 23:40.27 | Grum | usenet? |
| 23:40.29 | Grum | and then ... |
| 23:40.32 | Dashkal | usenet is dying |
| 23:40.34 | Grum | it will go underground again on ftps |
| 23:40.36 | Dashkal | ISPs are dropping it |
| 23:41.02 | Grum | msot of the NSP traffic is not to ISP servers though |
| 23:41.14 | Dashkal | Consider that the ISP is subject to the law of the country it sits in. It can be made illegal to offer unfiltered access to the internet (see Australia) |
| 23:41.17 | Grum | and players like giganews will need a lot of pushing to get out of the way |
| 23:41.25 | Repo | [WoW] 10trades-bar: 03egingell * r46 TradesBarConfig.xml: |
| 23:41.27 | Repo | -- Fixed "Usage: GameTooltip:SetText("text" [, color])" error. |
| 23:41.42 | Grum | tunnnel+encryption and byebye control |
| 23:41.44 | *** join/#curseforge quoin (n=quoin@122-49-172-215.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 23:41.48 | Dashkal | Block anything tunneled |
| 23:41.52 | Dashkal | trivial |
| 23:41.59 | Dashkal | Normal people only need HTTP over 80 anyway |
| 23:42.04 | Grum | there is no difference between tunneled connections and regular ones :) |
| 23:42.05 | Dashkal | it's only that 1% minority |
| 23:42.11 | Repo | [WoW] 10trades-bar: 03egingell 04v200810291741 * r47 : Tagging as v200810291741. |
| 23:42.33 | Grum | i'd say 25/43/143/443 etc are also very much used ;) |
| 23:42.34 | Dashkal | You're gonna have to do some convincing to prove to me that you can tunnel anything over 80 and make it look like real HTTP |
| 23:42.51 | Dashkal | 25? no. use gogle. 443? You don't have a right to encryption |
| 23:42.54 | Kiaos | wow uses torrents for distibution of updates torrent protocal will not die |
| 23:42.58 | Dashkal | 43 and 143 I don't know offhand |
| 23:43.22 | Grum | ah well .. bedtime for me |
| 23:43.31 | Grum | :P |
| 23:43.37 | Kiaos | night GRum |
| 23:43.50 | Dashkal | Kiaos: One company falling by the wayside is a perfectly acceptable price to pay in the fight against <insert made up evil here> |
| 23:44.06 | Kiaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.20 | Dashkal | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.35 | Kiaos | well torrents cant die trust me more companys use it for retail than priacy |
| 23:44.45 | Kiaos | its true |
| 23:44.51 | Dashkal | It gets used more for piracy than real use. And that's by bandwidth numbers |
| 23:44.57 | Kiaos | Blizzard uses bit-torrent prottocal |
| 23:45.01 | Dashkal | I'm aware |
| 23:45.13 | Dashkal | Many linux distros use it to distribute new releases (Ubuntu out tomorrow) |
| 23:45.29 | Dashkal | I'm aware of quite a few legit uses for it. Wasn't the point I was trying to make |
| 23:45.31 | Kiaos | So blizzard is an major company and will throw an bitch fit if it gets banned |
| 23:45.47 | Dashkal | So? Terrorism must be stopped! |
| 23:46.21 | Dashkal | By the way, this discussion should explain why I'm happy to hear you voted :p |
| 23:46.30 | Kiaos | you see these isp who ban bit torernt protocol |
| 23:46.36 | Dashkal | That kind of bullshit argument passes because too many people simply do not care |
| 23:46.44 | Kiaos | and then legit companys bitch at tehm |
| 23:46.55 | Kiaos | and it gets lifted |
| 23:47.25 | Dashkal | They tred on something that people really did care about. But that was people vs a company. Lots of people cared and the company did it for their own interests. |
| 23:47.45 | Kiaos | yeah I hate rich people |
| 23:47.54 | Kiaos | middle class for the win |
| 23:47.54 | Dashkal | Unfounded accusation: I figure the RIAA paid them to do it, but that'll never be proved. |
| 23:48.41 | Kiaos | did you know there are so many torrents and seeds that to go through them all our sun will have already died |
| 23:48.52 | Kiaos | its an fact too |
| 23:49.03 | Dashkal | Like I said, to kill BT would take extreme measures |
| 23:49.05 | Dashkal | Still could be done |
| 23:49.06 | Kiaos | thats why the FBI wont put resources to it |
| 23:49.26 | Dashkal | You really would have to resort to filtering everything out and passing only what you recognize |
| 23:50.03 | Kiaos | yeah but that would Take an AI system and that is long way from now and everyones scared of AI |
| 23:50.43 | Kiaos | in 8 years there will be some sort of AI system at the rate of technology expanding |
| 23:50.48 | Dashkal | erm? No it wouldn't |
| 23:50.53 | Kiaos | y |
| 23:50.56 | Dashkal | You assume they actually care to allow everything you want |
| 23:51.04 | Dashkal | HTTP over 80 is plenty |
| 23:51.28 | Dashkal | Anything above that is only protocls that were vetted and approved by DHS |
| 23:51.36 | Kiaos | lol its callexd proxy through tunneling |
| 23:51.42 | Dashkal | So big companies can stay in business |
| 23:51.49 | Dashkal | Kiaos: see note about recognizing the data |
| 23:51.54 | Dashkal | I'm talking deep packet inspection |
| 23:52.13 | Kiaos | oh well thats an big task to under take |
| 23:52.20 | Dashkal | absolutely |
| 23:52.36 | Kiaos | Is like coding an AI system |
| 23:52.42 | Kiaos | near impossible |
| 23:52.44 | Dashkal | No |
| 23:52.47 | Dashkal | Not even close |
| 23:53.09 | Dashkal | You make the individual companies do most of the work for you when they get approved. Code simply gets added to the filters every ISP is required to add |
| 23:53.14 | Tinyboom | Kiaos: nothing is impossible, the impossible just takes longer to accomplish.... |
| 23:53.35 | Dashkal | This would be a very difficult task, no argument there. But it's doable given our current resources |
| 23:53.53 | Kiaos | Beer is good, Beer is Good, Beer is good, Lets go Drink some Beer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:54.03 | Kiaos | yeah not impossible |
| 23:54.04 | Dashkal | eww, vodka for me please :p |
| 23:54.26 | Kiaos | sorry i dont like alchool |
| 23:54.39 | Kiaos | im just repeating an song i like |
| 23:54.48 | Kiaos | psycostick |
| 23:54.56 | Dashkal | Bah, no fun. Looking forward to friday night :p |
| 23:55.08 | Kiaos | i turn 21 in november |
| 23:55.30 | Dashkal | 27 and Canadian. Been legal for a good while now |
| 23:56.04 | Kiaos | US man i gota wait |
| 23:56.10 | Kiaos | and dont like it anyways |
| 23:56.50 | Dashkal | I don't drink much. But it's a Haloween party and I don't have to go home. Is gonna has me some fun |
| 23:56.57 | Kiaos | man im an carebear I dont like alchool, belive in killing anyone but most things, and dont belive in smoking |
| 23:57.33 | Kiaos | I dont belive in Death and hope for imortality |
| 23:57.48 | Kiaos | technolgy will bring it too |
| 23:58.00 | Kiaos | imortality is around the corner |
| 23:58.25 | Kiaos | advances in medical science are made everyday |
| 23:58.39 | Kiaos | machines are getting smaller and smaller |
| 23:58.51 | Kiaos | and nanites are becoming an reality |
| 23:59.04 | Kiaos | sorry man im an scifi geek |
| 23:59.06 | Dashkal | Immortality scares the shit out of me... explosive population growth |
| 23:59.11 | Kiaos | Stargate |
| 23:59.20 | Kiaos | its called more than one planet |
| 23:59.34 | Kiaos | we have 8 planets orbiting the sun |
| 23:59.48 | Dashkal | We'd need an infinite number of planets to expand to support effectively infinite population growth |
| 23:59.58 | Kiaos | and all there natural resources are ours |
