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| 00:05.52 | coon | connecting does seems to work also :) but now I need a deeper understanding of BLE what to do next. I think I could control the LEDs now by writing to specific UUID |
| 00:05.58 | coon | but enough for today |
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| 08:01.31 | Stormwind_mobile | So, after three intense days of tinkering with card10, I actually *dreamt* about developing for card10. |
| 08:12.45 | Stormwind_mobile | coon: on sunday during dinner, we were brainstorming about possible interactive installations on 36c3 for card10 users, and I brought up something like the AR game "ingress". |
| 08:16.20 | Stormwind_mobile | ATM, BTLE only works in client config on card10, so we'd need to deploy a bunch of BTLE central nodes on the faire grounds. Something that can do BTLE as well as WiFi. ESP32 and Raspi came to mind, which can be hidden in art installations, look and contact card10s that come into range, and talk to a backend for the game via congress WiFi. |
| 08:17.51 | Stormwind_mobile | Maybe this can be done with not too much effort with an ESP32. Those are cheap, could simply be powered by a small USB charger, and there's not much time until 36C3 after all. |
| 08:18.49 | Stormwind_mobile | I'd really love seeing people running around at congress, constantly monitoring their for card10 |
| 08:19.28 | Stormwind_mobile | on the hunt for hidden beacons and interacting with them. |
| 08:23.23 | Stormwind_mobile | If we try to make something like this, maybe we should ask the "There is no game" team from 33c3 for advice. |
| 08:27.24 | Stormwind_mobile | I'm just pondering if we could use the three personal states of the card10 app as factions for the game. |
| 08:28.12 | Stormwind_mobile | A small floorplan of the faire grounds that renders areas in one of the three colours |
| 08:28.48 | Stormwind_mobile | Then people can choose if they enter territory of a certain colour and try to change it into their own. |
| 08:46.45 | Stormwind_mobile | And the "no contact" faction could try to reset everything, because they just want to have their peace and quiet...XD |
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| 09:52.13 | schneider | i'd like to avoid games which divide people. i'm quite sure that view is shared with spieleberatung |
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| 13:46.05 | Andreas[m]4 | <coon "connecting does seems to work al"> You could use the card10 Android app to test against. Also the nrf connect app has proven useful. |
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| 13:55.20 | coon | Andreas[m]4: thanks, will try! |
| 14:33.09 | hxchn | Stormwind_mobile: sounds like a cool idea, but maybe you could develop it in a way that there are no factions, and to "win" people have to work together? |
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| 15:13.27 | pippin | idea for game: entropy collection competition. Collected entropy is the score - and entropy/diversity is collected through mac-adresses as well as user settings, and through direct interaction with other badges one could copy some of the first-hand encountered entropy from the other badge (but not (or less of) second hand entropy). |
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| 15:46.40 | Gu1nn3zz | Has anybody already tried to use the IR led as an emitter instead of a sensor ? |
| 15:47.26 | Gu1nn3zz | (thinking about a TV-BGONE app for the card10 :> ) |
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| 16:08.12 | Stormwind_mobile | If competition is discouraged, maybe some kind of "pollination" mechanic might work. Beacons give out pieces of information that the badges can get, and drop that packet at another beacon, earning points, getting another piece of information. Maybe the "pollen" decays over time, or needs to get to the next beacon within a time limit, or n people need to collaborate, transporting n pollen with their card10s from one beacon to the next. |
| 16:09.44 | Stormwind_mobile | I personally would be fine with some alpha version, proof of concept, to get some experience if people pick it up, if so, how much they play with it, and so on. Then do something on a larger scale next year. |
| 16:11.54 | Stormwind_mobile | For a game to be noticed at all, there needs to be some kind of public announcement that asks participants to load a matching egg onto their card10, in the first place. |
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| 16:17.51 | schneider | does the rtc run too fast or too slow? |
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| 18:25.22 | rivercat | hello. I can't remember how to get a REPL on the card10. I've connected minicom to the device and get status messages "Loading "menu.py" ..." but no response to input. |
| 18:26.52 | rivercat | Also I would like to get the sensor data from the card10 onto a raspbery pi, by bluetooth or serial. I think I can just print data nad see it on the usb serial port, but what about bluetooth? Is there a bluetooth serial port or some other way? |
| 18:27.38 | dos1 | ctrl+c |
| 18:28.10 | dos1 | though if it's sleeping, you'll have to wait until that sleep is over |
| 18:29.00 | dos1 | depending on which sensor you're interested in, you may already be able to just use BLE characteristics to read them |
| 18:29.23 | rivercat | thanks! |
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| 18:31.30 | rivercat | I'm interested in the barometer, IMU. |
| 18:31.38 | rivercat | Is there also a VOC sensor in there? |
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| 23:48.10 | rahix[m] | rivercat: Look for BME680 |
| 23:48.36 | rahix[m] | Thats the sensor package that contains the barometer |
| 23:49.28 | rahix[m] | There are BLE characteristics for serial, so you could call that 'Bluetooth serial' |
| 23:49.35 | coon | does it make sense to solder the missing caps for the rtc or is this fixable in software? |
| 23:50.21 | rahix[m] | IMU is BHI160 |
| 23:52.12 | rahix[m] | I don't think there would be much space for soldering them ... |
| 23:52.40 | rahix[m] | But I think the drift is very similar for all devices so we can probably fix it in software |
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