| 00:14.00 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 20 23:52 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:9, We be Pirates!!!:2 |
| 00:15.33 | *** join/#bzleague CBG (n=CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust130.cdif.cable.ntl.com) |
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| 00:18.15 | brad2901 | CBG: got a mate? |
| 00:18.30 | CBG | Genzo was in a dub match. |
| 00:18.42 | CBG | I guesstimate it will finish in 15 mins. |
| 00:18.51 | CBG | I plan to be in bed by 45 mins. Sorry lee. |
| 00:19.02 | brad2901 | k |
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| 00:44.05 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 21 00:33 => SCF:7, [HoW] Hell On Wheels:1 |
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| 00:58.44 | TheRedBaron | Who wants a free ~lart? |
| 00:58.52 | RedBaron2 | you do! |
| 00:58.54 | CBG | ooh!!! me! |
| 00:58.55 | RedBaron2 | !lart trb |
| 00:58.58 | TheRedBaron | ~lart cbg |
| 00:58.58 | RedBaron2 | weeee!! |
| 00:59.03 | CBG | nyay :D |
| 01:00.09 | TheRedBaron | mickey needs to discover IRC... |
| 01:03.16 | TheRedBaron | gee that stuff just works up my christmas spirit |
| 01:03.21 | TheRedBaron | leaving me all warm and cuddly... |
| 01:03.40 | RedBaron2 | *blink* |
| 01:03.59 | TheRedBaron | acerbically and vitroically sarcastic |
| 01:04.46 | CBG | Who wants a hug? |
| 01:04.56 | TheRedBaron | ~lart cbg |
| 01:05.00 | CBG | :D |
| 01:09.58 | RedBaron2 | ~bonk cbg |
| 01:09.59 | jbot | ACTION bonks cbg over the head |
| 01:11.54 | CBG | w00t |
| 01:14.08 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 21 01:03 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:6, SCF:2 |
| 01:15.56 | *** join/#bzleague kierra (n=les@fl-71-0-237-202.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net) |
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| 01:16.37 | *** mode/#bzleague [+o kierra] by ChanServ |
| 01:16.51 | CBG | Yo kierra :D |
| 01:17.06 | kierra | hello cbg |
| 01:17.43 | CBG | oh my... Its 1:20 |
| 01:17.43 | kierra | bedtime :) |
| 01:17.43 | CBG | I thought it was more like 12:40 |
| 01:17.43 | CBG | oh well. :) |
| 01:17.45 | CBG | Why do you say that, ki? |
| 01:17.55 | kierra | :) |
| 01:18.10 | CBG | I'm tempted to not go to bed at all. :P |
| 01:18.51 | CBG | You enjoy yourself at work though, folks ;) |
| 01:19.11 | CBG | I'll enjoy myself on bz all day for the rest of the week. :D |
| 01:19.13 | TheRedBaron | i'm heading to bed soon myself... |
| 01:19.28 | TheRedBaron | Death_barrel .... |
| 01:19.53 | CBG | ~lart ? |
| 01:19.58 | CBG | eek |
| 01:23.52 | TheRedBaron | aua she beat me to the draw! |
| 01:24.03 | TheRedBaron | do it again i'll beat her this time... |
| 01:24.08 | TheRedBaron | Score! |
| 01:24.25 | CBG | Slowcoaches :P |
| 01:24.47 | menotume | hey CBG |
| 01:24.51 | menotume | watch this :) |
| 01:24.56 | CBG | Yo menotume :) |
| 01:24.59 | *** kick/#bzleague [TheRedBaron!n=meno@pdpc/supporter/active/menotume] by menotume (menotume) |
| 01:25.03 | menotume | oops |
| 01:25.05 | CBG | W00t! |
| 01:25.11 | menotume | lol |
| 01:25.11 | CBG | ~hug meno |
| 01:25.13 | jbot | ACTION hugs meno |
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| 01:25.20 | menotume | rofl |
| 01:25.22 | kierra | it wasnt here |
| 01:25.23 | TheRedBaron | Arr! |
| 01:25.24 | kierra | her |
| 01:25.27 | TheRedBaron | ~plank menotume |
| 01:25.29 | jbot | menotume is blindfolded and pushed at sword-point to walk the plank and plunge into the depths |
| 01:25.29 | CBG | :) |
| 01:25.30 | menotume | ooops, sry - wrong key |
| 01:25.53 | TheRedBaron | menotume: what store do you get my pizza from? |
| 01:25.54 | menotume | scf:7, HOW:1 ? |
| 01:25.59 | menotume | ACME |
| 01:26.08 | *** topic/#bzleague by kierra -> /BZFlag players and league chat || Also see #bzchat || Picturenot ms of bzplayers: http://pics.bzleague.com || Locations of bzplayers: http://www.frappr.com/bzflagplayers || dv to Florida in less than 8weeks and counting!! || When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber. || free orange, now with enhanced meaning || "95% of this game is half mental." Yogi Berra || |
| 01:26.08 | TheRedBaron | pfff |
| 01:26.14 | menotume | same place the Roadrunner uses |
| 01:26.32 | menotume | beep beep ! |
| 01:27.03 | kierra | poor cbg |
| 01:27.11 | CBG | :D |
| 01:27.28 | kierra | meno, did you read mistakes forum post? |
| 01:27.45 | menotume | of course |
| 01:27.47 | menotume | ot |
| 01:27.49 | menotume | not |
| 01:27.52 | CBG | Anyone seen the christmas coca-cola TV ad/commercial with the elves dancing...? |
| 01:28.11 | CBG | ~spank Wil-E-Coyote |
| 01:28.12 | jbot | ACTION bends Wil-E-Coyote over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on Wil-E-Coyote's pasty white buttocks. |
| 01:28.12 | kierra | nope |
| 01:28.32 | kierra | ouch, my ears |
| 01:28.44 | kierra | MEN |
| 01:28.51 | CBG | You're missing out kierra. I found it today, have seen it probably 100 times already and am still lovin' it! |
| 01:29.13 | kierra | the commercial, cbg? |
| 01:29.20 | CBG | Yeah! :) |
| 01:29.26 | kierra | hmmm |
| 01:29.48 | CBG | Only a few megs. I think i'll upload it :) |
| 01:29.57 | menotume | "his forum is for the league, and doesn't really have to do with public servers and how people us ME." |
| 01:30.00 | menotume | hmmm. |
| 01:31.01 | Wil-E-Coyote | and pizza |
| 01:31.17 | SportChick | darn, no kick rights hwere |
| 01:31.58 | CBG | :D |
| 01:32.25 | kierra | who do you want to kick, sc? |
| 01:32.47 | SportChick | there's a coyote running around trying to sell me into slavery... ;) |
| 01:33.05 | Wil-E-Coyote | not trying... |
| 01:33.09 | CBG | And a CBG boldly going nowhere? |
| 01:33.09 | Wil-E-Coyote | I got a good deal! |
| 01:33.13 | Wil-E-Coyote | I already did |
| 01:33.22 | SportChick | obviously not, I'm still here! |
| 01:33.53 | kierra | so his kick threat is empty |
| 01:34.33 | Wil-E-Coyote | hmm |
| 01:34.34 | kierra | cbg, is that commercial online? |
| 01:34.50 | CBG | kierra: still uploading. :/ |
| 01:34.52 | Wil-E-Coyote | i didn't see anything in my recipt about returns... and reimbursements.. |
| 01:35.06 | CBG | Ah, its done! |
| 01:35.17 | Wil-E-Coyote | oh well, I'll just scam another shipload of pirates out of rum.... |
| 01:35.19 | Wil-E-Coyote | and pizza |
| 01:35.23 | CBG | Everyone: http://www.kaziaz.com/stuff/Coca%20Cola%20Christmas%20Elves%20commercial.mpeg |
| 01:35.50 | Wil-E-Coyote | and pizza |
| 01:35.54 | CBG | Though it is bigger stretched to full screen... |
| 01:35.54 | Wil-E-Coyote | weeeeeee!!! |
| 01:36.01 | SportChick | k? |
| 01:36.53 | Wil-E-Coyote | bah! |
| 01:37.54 | kierra | very cute, cbg |
| 01:38.14 | CBG | cute? CUTE? :P |
| 01:38.17 | CBG | Man, I love it so much... |
| 01:38.29 | kierra | lol |
| 01:38.37 | CBG | I'm gonna keep watching it on loooooooop for another hour. |
| 01:38.41 | CBG | Then go to bed a happy guy. |
| 01:39.43 | kierra | lol |
| 01:39.49 | CBG | ;) |
| 01:39.50 | kierra | you are too much |
| 01:39.53 | RedBaron2 | wow |
| 01:40.33 | CBG | No, the ad is too much and I can't get enough! oh my! |
| 01:40.51 | RedBaron2 | it is kinda catchy |
| 01:41.07 | CBG | Its a damn sight better than that! :P |
| 01:41.17 | RedBaron2 | hehe |
| 01:41.38 | CBG | I have to guess I have watched it over 100 times in the 5 or so hours I have had it... |
| 01:41.38 | Wil-E-Coyote | its stupid.... |
| 01:41.44 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 01:41.49 | CBG | Wil-E-Coyote: You're stupid. |
| 01:41.54 | Wil-E-Coyote | ~spank cbg |
| 01:41.56 | jbot | ACTION bends cbg over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on cbg's pasty white buttocks. |
| 01:42.01 | CBG | Ooh, kinky! |
| 01:42.02 | Wil-E-Coyote | pasty white? |
| 01:42.07 | Wil-E-Coyote | you need more sun. |
| 01:42.19 | CBG | But my ibook could melt... |
| 01:42.35 | CBG | Thus I shall not leave this house. |
| 01:43.04 | Wil-E-Coyote | never heard of wireless internet? |
| 01:43.13 | CBG | Eh? |
| 01:43.26 | CBG | I cannot take this ibook outside... |
| 01:43.32 | TheRedBaron | why not? |
| 01:43.40 | CBG | It could melt... duh |
| 01:43.58 | TheRedBaron | eh? |
| 01:44.16 | CBG | What with all the sun I "need"... |
| 01:44.25 | CBG | Which would be a lot... :) |
| 01:47.22 | CBG | Can I EVER get tired of this ad? w0000000000t |
| 01:48.12 | CBG | RedBaron2: still whatching it? |
| 01:50.24 | RedBaron2 | lol..no |
| 01:50.32 | RedBaron2 | i'm listening to a different song |
| 01:50.36 | CBG | Bah... |
| 01:50.47 | CBG | What other song can compare? |
| 01:50.59 | CBG | (except for stevie wonder of course.) |
| 01:51.05 | RedBaron2 | eew |
| 01:51.21 | CBG | >:( |
| 01:51.45 | CBG | "eew"????? |
| 01:51.56 | CBG | Show some respect, boy! |
| 01:52.10 | TheRedBaron | ~lart cbg |
| 01:52.13 | Death_Barrel | damn damn damn!!! |
| 01:52.20 | Death_Barrel | deleting that important topic! |
| 01:52.52 | CBG | ~lart Death_Barrel |
| 01:53.02 | CBG | like an ugly bug, I bet. :P |
| 01:53.08 | kierra | menotume ping |
| 01:53.18 | RedBaron2 | lol barrel |
| 01:53.33 | kierra | important? |
| 01:53.46 | Death_Barrel | yeah important cause i proves he lies |
| 01:54.24 | kierra | dont air your dirty laundry in public......talk to him in private |
| 01:54.56 | Death_Barrel | he started it |
| 01:55.03 | CBG | Won;t that stink the house out? |
| 01:55.21 | Death_Barrel | and i finished it ;d |
| 01:55.22 | Death_Barrel | ;d |
| 01:55.25 | Death_Barrel | ;D |
| 01:55.41 | RedBaron2 | i think the moderator who deleted it finished it ;) |
| 01:55.58 | Death_Barrel | yeah, but he didn't have must to say after my post anyways |
| 01:56.08 | RedBaron2 | hehe |
| 01:56.14 | TheRedBaron | pfff Lag changes all the time during a match... |
| 01:56.25 | Death_Barrel | so i got the finaly word, and the admin got the final pinch |
| 01:56.34 | Death_Barrel | trb; not true |
| 01:56.43 | Death_Barrel | his lag was solid the whole match |
| 01:56.53 | TheRedBaron | your word vs his |
| 01:57.03 | Death_Barrel | ask all the observers, and even his own teammate megaman |
| 01:57.03 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 01:57.10 | TheRedBaron | And don't try to tell me lag doesn't change in a match... |
| 01:57.11 | Death_Barrel | so, our word vs his |
| 01:57.20 | Death_Barrel | lag doesn't always change in a match |
| 01:57.25 | kierra | pffft |
| 01:57.26 | TheRedBaron | it does to |
| 01:57.31 | Death_Barrel | if you got a stable connection no it doesnt |
| 01:57.58 | CBG | Death_Barrel: http://www.kaziaz.com/stuff/Coca%20Cola%20Christmas%20Elves%20commercial.mpeg |
| 01:58.05 | Death_Barrel | unless you have activity on the connection, it should stay stable and not fluxuate by 40ms like he claims |
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| 01:58.44 | Death_Barrel | and when you are playing..... there shouldn't be any other activity, especially when you are playing a match |
| 01:58.54 | CBG | Hi barcode |
| 01:58.58 | barcode | like your phone ringing? |
| 01:59.02 | TheRedBaron | Death_Barrel: its called cable. Shared bandwidth |
| 01:59.03 | Death_Barrel | yeah exactaly |
| 01:59.09 | Death_Barrel | i can't help that though |
| 01:59.19 | TheRedBaron | like he can? |
| 01:59.26 | CBG | Death_Barrel: because of course, you have COMPLETE control over everything in the world when you match... |
| 01:59.30 | Death_Barrel | trb; fine, but lag doesn't normally fluxuate like that |
| 01:59.37 | kierra | it does too |
| 01:59.39 | Death_Barrel | maybe a few ms give or take |
| 01:59.50 | kierra | happened the other day in a bar/ek match |
| 01:59.52 | TheRedBaron | Death_barrel: who are you fooling? your team has over 600 matches... |
| 01:59.52 | Death_Barrel | not 30-40 ms |
| 01:59.52 | barcode | Hi CBG |
| 02:00.05 | Death_Barrel | omg yes it can happen1 |
| 02:00.07 | Death_Barrel | i know this! |
| 02:00.15 | Death_Barrel | but it doesn't happen as much as you act like |
| 02:00.43 | kierra | menotume ping |
| 02:00.47 | Death_Barrel | heh |
| 02:01.07 | Death_Barrel | menotume, tattle |
| 02:01.16 | Death_Barrel | menotume, i need to tattle |
| 02:01.19 | kierra | i dont need meno for tattling |
| 02:01.22 | TheRedBaron | I'm not the one saying it doesn't fluctuate "(20:58:11) Death_Barrel: if you got a stable connection no it doesnt" |
| 02:01.24 | Death_Barrel | i do |
| 02:01.28 | kierra | I can handle myself |
| 02:01.52 | barcode | What I don't understand is why Kierra you erased my post? |
| 02:02.24 | kierra | you and DB can take your private argument and keep it such |
| 02:02.26 | Death_Barrel | trb: it doesn't fluctuate 30-40 ms on normal |
| 02:02.29 | Death_Barrel | we all know this |
| 02:02.36 | CBG | we do? :) |
| 02:02.52 | Death_Barrel | my screenshot against his word = a 40-50 ms fluctuate |
| 02:03.33 | CBG | 40ms is not exactly a HUGE change for over 30mins... |
| 02:03.54 | barcode | A huge change is from 100ms to like 180-200ms |
| 02:04.11 | barcode | If your accusing me of cheating your really in a bad position |
| 02:04.20 | CBG | Anything under 300 is acceptable by most standards anyway |
| 02:04.30 | barcode | Alright but not 7ms jitter |
| 02:04.44 | barcode | on dub the jitter was around 1-2ms |
| 02:04.54 | barcode | while on the catay server it was around 4-7ms |
| 02:04.54 | TheRedBaron | Cbg anything under 200 is acceptable for off matching |
| 02:05.04 | Death_Barrel | no accuastions of cheating |
| 02:05.09 | Death_Barrel | just calling you a liar barcode :) |
| 02:05.16 | CBG | TheRedBaron: That's your standard. |
| 02:05.18 | barcode | Alright sure dude |
| 02:05.20 | Death_Barrel | your lat was on average 139ms |
| 02:05.24 | Death_Barrel | not 170 like you say |
| 02:05.26 | CBG | Others may have higher or lower... |
| 02:05.41 | barcode | Before I left I did a lagstat and it showed 170ms with 7ms jitter |
| 02:05.42 | Death_Barrel | and your jitter was 3-4 ms the whole time |
| 02:05.50 | CBG | hang on... |
| 02:05.51 | TheRedBaron | TheRedBaron: thats a proven standard |
| 02:05.54 | Death_Barrel | too bad, you should of taken a screenshot :) |
| 02:05.57 | TheRedBaron | Cbg: thats a proven standard |
| 02:06.06 | barcode | Yeah but still your screenshot goes against your claim. |
| 02:06.14 | Death_Barrel | no not at all |
| 02:06.14 | TheRedBaron | not just my standard |
| 02:06.16 | CBG | Death Barrel is calling barcode a liar and making a fuss because he OVERestimated his lag? |
| 02:06.19 | barcode | the dub server had 1-2ms jitter while this catay server had 4-7ms jitter |
| 02:06.26 | Death_Barrel | i not making the fuss |
| 02:06.29 | Death_Barrel | barcode it |
| 02:06.29 | TheRedBaron | Catay's server does jitter |
| 02:06.30 | Death_Barrel | nis |
| 02:06.35 | CBG | TheRedBaron: Myabe on ducati then |
| 02:06.43 | barcode | Yes I am making a fuss because I had enough of these false accusations |
| 02:06.44 | CBG | lag limit on GU servers is 300. |
| 02:06.51 | CBG | I tend to prefer lag under 250. |
| 02:06.56 | barcode | Also you take advantage of people when your lag was clearly fine on dub |
| 02:06.57 | Death_Barrel | anywhoo, its fun playing you without excess acceleration barcode |
| 02:07.08 | TheRedBaron | CBG: don't call never a lagger than. or say he has jit. |
| 02:07.10 | barcode | Excess acceleration? I use keyboard |
| 02:07.14 | Death_Barrel | your lag wasn't fine on dub barcode |
| 02:07.28 | CBG | Jit is a different matter. |
| 02:07.29 | barcode | It was better than that of catay |
| 02:07.38 | Death_Barrel | no |
| 02:07.44 | barcode | My jitter was 1-2ms on dub. |
| 02:07.47 | Death_Barrel | your lag on dub was 160 ms |
| 02:07.52 | barcode | Look at your screenshot and look at the jitter there |
| 02:07.56 | TheRedBaron | CBG: a different matter, but it doesn't effect it that much. |
| 02:08.06 | TheRedBaron | if the number is relatively lower |
| 02:08.06 | barcode | my lag on dub was better than that on catays |
| 02:08.07 | Death_Barrel | ok i give you the extra ms of jitter |
| 02:08.18 | CBG | I don't like jit in double figures. |
| 02:08.18 | Death_Barrel | you still got 20-30 ms of lag unaccounted for |
| 02:08.21 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 02:08.24 | barcode | lag spike? |
| 02:08.27 | barcode | simple enough |
| 02:08.30 | barcode | like your phone spike |
| 02:08.35 | Death_Barrel | and you call us all "mother fu$%ers |
| 02:08.38 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 02:08.39 | TheRedBaron | Never doesn't consistently have a jitter above 10ms |
| 02:08.41 | barcode | Yes I am glad I did |
| 02:08.48 | Death_Barrel | and then you go to forums and post about sportsmanship |
| 02:08.50 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 02:08.53 | CBG | TheRedBaron, how can you categorically say that? |
| 02:09.05 | barcode | Why should I care about sportmanship when nobody ever shows that to me? |
| 02:09.06 | TheRedBaron | I'm recalling a recent GU match I observed |
| 02:09.10 | TheRedBaron | Quite recent |
| 02:09.16 | CBG | How can you be sure there was not a 30min period 247 days ago..... |
| 02:09.19 | Death_Barrel | and my phone ringing is not a spike, its a time out |
| 02:09.25 | Death_Barrel | its an older modem that needs replacing |
| 02:09.31 | TheRedBaron | 247 days: is that consistent? |
| 02:09.43 | CBG | Its a random number. |
| 02:09.43 | barcode | Well until you fix your shit I won't be matching against you |
| 02:09.51 | Death_Barrel | lol cause you will get pwned |
| 02:09.53 | Death_Barrel | loser |
| 02:09.57 | CBG | € barcode |
| 02:10.02 | Death_Barrel | we pause when my phone rings |
| 02:10.04 | CBG | lol @ * barcode |
| 02:10.29 | barcode | Yeah we did but that stills does not explain why you had us move servers |
| 02:10.32 | barcode | when the lag was just fine on dub |
| 02:10.55 | barcode | Also the biggest loser is you mr ME |
| 02:11.32 | Death_Barrel | barcode: its a pure ME at its best |
| 02:11.44 | barcode | Mouse modifications is cheating |
| 02:11.45 | barcode | simple |
| 02:12.01 | Death_Barrel | shots go through you on dub, but when you move to a limited server people can hit you again |
| 02:12.02 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 02:12.15 | TheRedBaron | Death_barrel: but barcode is a keyboard player... |
| 02:12.19 | Death_Barrel | and no ME is not cheating |
| 02:12.24 | CBG | Hah! |
| 02:12.25 | barcode | "I support the point that it doesn't matter what technical tricks one uses to get an advantage -- it is cheating. Doesn't matter if this method is officially classified as cheat -- as long it helps getting better results without adequate skills it is a cheat. Of course only as long bzf isn't a contest of technical improvements." |
| 02:12.29 | barcode | you might want to listen to Micky |
| 02:12.34 | Death_Barrel | trb: acceleration period, you get full accell with kb |
| 02:12.50 | TheRedBaron | Oh lord... |
| 02:12.54 | CBG | Not on limited servers... |
| 02:13.03 | Death_Barrel | so barcode says it himself, that he is cheating |
| 02:13.06 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 02:13.16 | TheRedBaron | God that has me blind with furty |
| 02:13.19 | TheRedBaron | *fury |
| 02:13.22 | Death_Barrel | i'm happy i got what i wanted |
| 02:13.27 | barcode | lol |
| 02:13.30 | Death_Barrel | there a limited servers we can match on |
| 02:13.39 | Death_Barrel | i have the choice to match on a limited server |
| 02:13.45 | TheRedBaron | Because I have friggen endured every witch hunt against ME.... |
| 02:13.49 | barcode | Which was worse than the one we where on |
| 02:13.50 | Death_Barrel | so now i stop complaining about ME |
| 02:13.52 | Death_Barrel | :D |
| 02:13.54 | TheRedBaron | Only to find out, that YOU death_barrel, who started it... |
| 02:14.02 | TheRedBaron | Has now just assigned it to Keyboard |
| 02:14.04 | Death_Barrel | i didn't start it |
| 02:14.06 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 02:14.13 | TheRedBaron | And is complaining about FULL ACCELERATION! |
| 02:14.16 | Death_Barrel | i didn't assign anything to keyboard |
| 02:14.23 | CBG | Why must you punish barcode by playing on a limited server, just because he chooses to use the keys? |
| 02:14.27 | TheRedBaron | Death_Barrel: what temporary memory loss? |
| 02:14.27 | Death_Barrel | thats what ME is |
| 02:14.30 | CBG | Playing with keys is not cheating.... |
| 02:14.32 | TheRedBaron | BS! |
| 02:14.33 | Death_Barrel | its instant full accel |
| 02:14.43 | Death_Barrel | thats exactally what it is |
| 02:14.44 | TheRedBaron | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.46 | barcode | CBG: He does not like to play fair simple |
| 02:14.47 | TheRedBaron | those are your words |
| 02:14.52 | TheRedBaron | Choose which beliefe you have DB |
| 02:14.57 | Death_Barrel | omg stop posting my words i know what i say |
| 02:15.01 | Death_Barrel | that drives me nuts |
| 02:15.02 | TheRedBaron | No you don't! |
| 02:15.07 | Death_Barrel | yes i do |
| 02:15.10 | Death_Barrel | i just told you |
| 02:15.16 | CBG | PLAYING WITH KEYBOARD IS NOT CHEATING |
| 02:15.18 | TheRedBaron | you just said ME is instant full accl |
| 02:15.19 | Death_Barrel | you just choose not to listen |
| 02:15.22 | orange | bah |
| 02:15.27 | Death_Barrel | and twist my words so they match your beliefs |
| 02:15.31 | TheRedBaron | but before you said ME is usign a nothe rprogram to turn it up full blast |
| 02:15.32 | *** part/#bzleague orange (n=mdw@pdpc/supporter/basic/orange) |
| 02:15.37 | Death_Barrel | yes |
| 02:15.37 | TheRedBaron | Hell I am not twisting your words |
| 02:15.41 | Death_Barrel | yes you are |
| 02:15.44 | TheRedBaron | I am quoting them verbatim! |
| 02:15.51 | Death_Barrel | you say i say things that i have never said |
| 02:15.54 | Death_Barrel | no |
| 02:15.56 | Death_Barrel | you aren't quoting |
| 02:15.58 | TheRedBaron | Death_Barrel: Face your words and what you have said! |
| 02:16.03 | TheRedBaron | http://my.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=bzforums&top=70&forumid=1&threadid=1183& |
| 02:16.06 | TheRedBaron | look at the link |
| 02:16.06 | barcode | lol |
| 02:16.06 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron, listen better |
| 02:16.12 | TheRedBaron | Hell, speak better |
| 02:16.17 | TheRedBaron | I'm listening fine. |
| 02:16.18 | Death_Barrel | hell, grow a brain |
| 02:16.20 | TheRedBaron | You can't communicate |
| 02:16.24 | Death_Barrel | neither can you |
| 02:16.31 | TheRedBaron | Whatever. |
| 02:16.39 | TheRedBaron | Everytime I quote you on something, Verbatim.... |
| 02:16.40 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 02:16.49 | TheRedBaron | You complain i just twisted your words.... |
| 02:16.50 | Death_Barrel | no, you quote me , then you switch my words around |
| 02:16.56 | Death_Barrel | lol plain and simple |
| 02:16.58 | TheRedBaron | I didn't edit a single word |
| 02:17.06 | Death_Barrel | omg |
| 02:17.15 | TheRedBaron | READ YOUR POST! |
| 02:17.16 | Death_Barrel | so now you are speaking for me? |
| 02:17.24 | Death_Barrel | talk for me then |
| 02:17.25 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 02:17.31 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron You complain i just twisted your words.... |
| 02:17.34 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron READ YOUR POST! |
| 02:17.35 | TheRedBaron | Hell, i'd do a better job of it than you can. |
| 02:17.38 | Death_Barrel | .TheRedBaron Death_Barrel: Face your words and what you have said! |
| 02:17.41 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron those are your words |
| 02:17.46 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron Only to find out, that YOU death_barrel, who started it... |
| 02:17.48 | TheRedBaron | Those are my words. what ove them? |
| 02:17.50 | CBG | Death_Barrel: using the arrow keys is cheating... do you say?? |
| 02:17.51 | kierra | how can 'quoting you verbatim by cut and pasting what you say" be twisting your words |
| 02:18.02 | Death_Barrel | kierra this isn't your argument |
| 02:18.07 | Death_Barrel | let your son speak for himself |
| 02:18.18 | Death_Barrel | CBG same for you |
| 02:18.22 | Death_Barrel | thats not what i said |
| 02:18.34 | Death_Barrel | i never said ME was cheating, and that is what you are telling me |
| 02:18.35 | barcode | Denial in the face |
| 02:18.39 | kierra | (21:28:40) Death_Barrel: no, you quote me , then you switch my words around |
| 02:18.48 | CBG | Good. I was just checking TheRedBaron wasnt argueing with a TOTAL cretin. |
| 02:18.53 | TheRedBaron | BS |
| 02:18.57 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron, lol your mom is speaking for you lol\ |
| 02:19.01 | Death_Barrel | hahahahaha |
| 02:19.07 | TheRedBaron | so? |
| 02:19.18 | TheRedBaron | Db, you started the first topic on ME... |
| 02:19.18 | kierra | this is a public chat room |
| 02:19.18 | Death_Barrel | so speak for yourself i don't need it from your mother |
| 02:19.21 | Death_Barrel | no |
| 02:19.26 | Death_Barrel | i didn't say it was cheating |
| 02:19.29 | Death_Barrel | never! |
| 02:19.38 | TheRedBaron | I never said thats what you said. |
| 02:19.48 | Death_Barrel | thats exactally what you are saying |
| 02:19.52 | CBG | Death_Barrel: You are an incomplete cretin. Lol1!1ol1ol1ol1ol1! |
| 02:19.53 | TheRedBaron | what I am driving at is this |
| 02:19.55 | Death_Barrel | what are we arguing about if thats not what you are saying? |
| 02:20.09 | Death_Barrel | CBG, lick my sack and shut your face |
| 02:20.18 | TheRedBaron | This is what you said: ME in my book, is this ^^^^^^ when you have it cranked up so much full blast and then use another program to turn it up even more full blast, how can this be easier than driving normal? i mean why even bother anymore to use it? you guys should start trying to play normal again cause whats going to happen when this problem is fixed with acceleration limits? |
| 02:20.21 | CBG | Where is it? |
| 02:20.27 | Death_Barrel | damn you are the biggest brown nosing jackhole |
| 02:20.28 | CBG | I can;t seem to find your sack. |
| 02:20.38 | TheRedBaron | Now you say ME 21:15:06) Death_Barrel: thats what ME is |
| 02:20.39 | TheRedBaron | (21:15:10) CBG: Playing with keys is not cheating.... |
| 02:20.39 | TheRedBaron | (21:15:11) TheRedBaron: BS! |
| 02:20.39 | TheRedBaron | (21:15:12) Death_Barrel: its instant full accel |
| 02:20.41 | CBG | In fact, I don't believe you even are the real santa! |
| 02:20.51 | Death_Barrel | yes |
| 02:20.54 | Death_Barrel | exactaly |
| 02:20.57 | TheRedBaron | make up your mind then... |
| 02:21.04 | TheRedBaron | first its 3rd party software... |
| 02:21.05 | barcode | It's funny how you deny everything and think you own all of this. |
| 02:21.10 | TheRedBaron | now its instanst accel? |
| 02:21.22 | TheRedBaron | You keep twisting what ME is to suit your purposes |
| 02:21.24 | CBG | Using keys is instant accel. Hmm.. |
| 02:21.29 | barcode | Keep on going im laughing |
| 02:21.30 | Death_Barrel | barcode: first off you were cought in your own lies |
| 02:21.41 | CBG | Lies? |
| 02:21.44 | barcode | Excuse me but your little comeback caught you in your own lie |
| 02:21.48 | CBG | You mean truths... :) |
| 02:21.59 | Death_Barrel | no |
| 02:22.00 | TheRedBaron | so why did you initially decry ME, and Not keyboard players? |
| 02:22.03 | Death_Barrel | lol i have no lies |
| 02:22.03 | barcode | I rest my case that the lag was worse on catay and your picture the one YOU taken shows that. |
| 02:22.21 | Death_Barrel | you lie saying that your lag was something it wasn't |
| 02:22.36 | barcode | I say what lagstat showed me before I left |
| 02:22.45 | CBG | You lie with every 2nd thing you say, but hey. Who are we to judge? |
| 02:22.46 | barcode | I don't make false accusations to people on bzflag like you do |
| 02:22.55 | barcode | I don't waste my time keeping up a little scam like you do |
| 02:23.01 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron, omg |
| 02:23.06 | Death_Barrel | yes you do barcode |
| 02:23.16 | barcode | Alright sure dude your opinion |
| 02:23.17 | Death_Barrel | even megaman was laughing at you |
| 02:23.25 | Death_Barrel | mine and the others |
| 02:23.26 | barcode | So? |
| 02:23.30 | Death_Barrel | so you are a liar |
| 02:23.38 | barcode | That does not prove I am a liar |
| 02:23.42 | Death_Barrel | yes it does |
| 02:23.48 | barcode | How? |
| 02:23.49 | barcode | Tell me |
| 02:23.52 | Death_Barrel | cause you are a liar |
| 02:23.53 | TheRedBaron | Death_Barrel: go for a little memory refresh http://my.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=bzforums&forumid=1&threadid=1017& |
| 02:23.54 | Death_Barrel | and i proved it |
| 02:24.06 | barcode | so basically out of the 30 minutes play |
| 02:24.08 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron make up your mind then... |
| 02:24.08 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron first its 3rd party software... |
| 02:24.08 | Death_Barrel | barcode It's funny how you deny everything and think you own all of this. |
| 02:24.08 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron now its instanst accel? |
| 02:24.09 | barcode | you took 1 second |
| 02:24.09 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron I never said thats what you said. |
| 02:24.16 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron Death_barrel: who are you fooling? your team has over 600 matches... |
| 02:24.24 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron Cbg anything under 200 is acceptable for off matching |
| 02:24.33 | barcode | I don't come in here and tell people to lick my sack |
| 02:24.37 | Death_Barrel | barcode: that was about 2 min worth |
| 02:24.46 | TheRedBaron | Death_Barrel: try a little comprehension with your quotes |
| 02:24.47 | barcode | Awesome where is the other 28? |
| 02:24.48 | Death_Barrel | we was paused for over 2 min |
| 02:24.56 | barcode | Yes for your phone |
| 02:24.57 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron, its annoying huh? :) |
| 02:25.07 | TheRedBaron | like i said before |
| 02:25.10 | TheRedBaron | You fail to communicate |
| 02:25.29 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron, first off, i am in the middle of 3 - 4 arguments right now |
| 02:25.31 | TheRedBaron | I don't get the point of you quoting me. You are doing it for sheer randomness |
| 02:25.42 | Death_Barrel | how do you expect me to hold 3 arguments at the same time |
| 02:25.44 | TheRedBaron | (21:24:47) Death_Barrel: TheRedBaron now its instanst accel? |
| 02:25.47 | Death_Barrel | 1 at a time please |
| 02:25.51 | TheRedBaron | (21:24:48) Death_Barrel: TheRedBaron I never said thats what you said. |
| 02:25.51 | TheRedBaron | (21:24:55) Death_Barrel: TheRedBaron Death_barrel: who are you fooling? your team has over 600 matches... |
| 02:25.51 | TheRedBaron | (21:25:03) Death_Barrel: TheRedBaron Cbg anything under 200 is acceptable for off matching |
| 02:25.52 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron Death_Barrel: go for a little memory refresh http://my.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=bzforums&forumid=1&threadid=1017& |
| 02:25.54 | CBG | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.55 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron first its 3rd party software... |
| 02:25.55 | Death_Barrel | barcode It's funny how you deny everything and think you own all of this. |
| 02:25.55 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron now its instanst accel? |
| 02:25.55 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron You keep twisting what ME is to suit your purpo |
| 02:26.00 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron You keep twisting what ME is to suit your purpo |
| 02:26.03 | TheRedBaron | thos quotes are from 3 different discussions |
| 02:26.04 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron You keep twisting what ME is to suit your purpo |
| 02:26.08 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron You keep twisting what ME is to suit your purpo |
| 02:26.09 | CBG | I dropped out to give you half a chance against barcode and TRB |
| 02:26.10 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron You keep twisting what ME is to suit your purpo |
| 02:26.12 | TheRedBaron | and 1 of them not even with you |
| 02:26.12 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron You keep twisting what ME is to suit your purpo |
| 02:26.21 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron You keep twisting what ME is to suit your purpo |
| 02:26.29 | CBG | Please kick the spammer. |
| 02:26.29 | Death_Barrel | TheRedBaron You keep twisting what ME is to suit your purpo |
| 02:26.29 | barcode | How childish |
| 02:26.30 | Death_Barrel | good |
| 02:26.30 | Death_Barrel | its annoying huh? |
| 02:26.36 | barcode | No |
| 02:26.38 | barcode | not really |
| 02:26.39 | TheRedBaron | mine had a point |
| 02:26.44 | barcode | Your ignorance is annoying |
| 02:26.45 | TheRedBaron | Yours is pointless |
| 02:27.04 | CBG | Correcting, Death_Barrel is pointless. |
| 02:27.06 | Death_Barrel | barcode: there are 3 lag queries in that 2 min period, actually more, but they can't all fit on the screen |
| 02:27.16 | *** join/#bzleague orange (n=mdw@pdpc/supporter/basic/orange) |
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| 02:27.26 | CBG | duck, orange! |
| 02:27.31 | orange | done yet? |
| 02:27.32 | barcode | How cute I still stand behind my claim and like I said that picture shows that catay server lags more than that of dub |
| 02:27.38 | orange | obviously not |
| 02:27.43 | Death_Barrel | no it doesn't |
| 02:27.47 | orange | so I'm going to step in |
| 02:27.49 | Death_Barrel | lets go to dub now and check your lag |
| 02:27.49 | TheRedBaron | Orange: read the logs on this night. |
| 02:27.53 | orange | if you're having a private fight |
| 02:27.56 | orange | find another place to have it |
| 02:27.59 | orange | because this is tiresome |
| 02:28.07 | barcode | sure |
| 02:28.17 | orange | there are an INFINITE number of channels available to you here |
| 02:28.19 | Death_Barrel | i am not having a private fight orange: more like 4 private fights |
| 02:28.23 | orange | create one, join it, invite the other one, and have at it |
| 02:28.37 | Death_Barrel | this is rediculous, and 1 of the arguments their mom trys to save them |
| 02:28.43 | CBG | #baby-chatter |
| 02:28.44 | TheRedBaron | BS! |
| 02:28.51 | Death_Barrel | lol bs my ass |
| 02:28.51 | TheRedBaron | My mom does as she pleases |
| 02:28.52 | kierra | this is a public chat room |
| 02:28.59 | Death_Barrel | yes :) |
| 02:29.04 | kierra | if you want a pvt discussion go somewhere else |
| 02:29.08 | Death_Barrel | and its public that you speak for your son |
| 02:29.09 | TheRedBaron | And I respect her for it. |
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| 02:29.14 | kierra | otherwise anyone can participate |
| 02:29.16 | TheRedBaron | What else would you ask of a mother? |
| 02:29.18 | CBG | duck, Pimpi |
| 02:29.25 | Death_Barrel | yes plz participate in speaking for your son |
| 02:29.31 | Death_Barrel | brb, i go get my mom |
| 02:29.38 | TheRedBaron | fine bring her in |
| 02:29.40 | Death_Barrel | maybe i won't feel so alone then |
| 02:29.45 | CBG | Death_Barrel: here's hoping she speaks english... |
| 02:30.00 | kierra | you alienate yourself, DB |
| 02:30.03 | Death_Barrel | CBG: enough of the suck up, and the brown nosing |
| 02:30.07 | orange | let's drop this whole line of conversation then, everyone |
| 02:30.14 | orange | if you're fired up, leave |
| 02:30.15 | Death_Barrel | your nose smells like a toilet already |
| 02:30.21 | CBG | Death_Barrel: enough of the "Im a big fat jerk..." please. |
| 02:30.21 | orange | Death_Barrel: please, stop |
| 02:30.44 | CBG | I like how he resorts to personal insults when he can't win. |
| 02:30.51 | orange | CBG: please, just stop |
| 02:30.56 | Death_Barrel | CBG: what are we winning then? |
| 02:30.57 | orange | don't respond, let's end this, OK? |
| 02:31.04 | Death_Barrel | seeing whos nose can stink the most? |
| 02:31.17 | Death_Barrel | CBG: you aren't even in this convo |
| 02:31.38 | CBG | Well, after that I had to go to pizza hut. |
| 02:31.45 | CBG | Death_Barrel: which convo? |
| 02:31.58 | CBG | It seems I manage to partake in a few at a time. |
| 02:33.21 | Death_Barrel | is that how you go through life? |
| 02:33.32 | CBG | And the relevance of that to lag and ME is...? |
| 02:33.33 | *** mode/#bzleague [-v Death_Barrel] by orange |
| 02:33.40 | *** part/#bzleague Death_Barrel (n=Death@adsl-70-247-47-30.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 02:33.53 | barcode | well my work is done here |
| 02:33.58 | kierra | barcode |
| 02:34.00 | barcode | sorry to bring this in here |
| 02:34.04 | kierra | pm |
| 02:34.21 | barcode | hold on need to register |
| 02:34.39 | CBG | Can DB recieve PMs? |
| 02:34.57 | orange | probably, do you really want to go there, or do you just want to drop it? |
| 02:35.13 | CBG | Just curious. |
| 02:35.31 | onpaq2pu | talking to me? |
| 02:37.29 | onpaq2pu | heh scratch that |
| 02:37.40 | CBG | I'll be off to bed, to dream of dancing elves... :D |
| 02:37.49 | onpaq2pu | by cbg |
| 02:38.01 | CBG | g'night all, and in case I don't see you again this week: Merry Christmas! |
| 02:38.07 | RedBaron2 | cya CBG |
| 02:38.10 | RedBaron2 | same to you |
| 02:38.11 | kierra | same to you CBG |
| 02:38.21 | CBG | Like mother like son? :) |
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| 02:38.42 | CBG | Merry Christmas wizart |
| 02:39.09 | uso | any admin at gu? cheater at 5154 "have a nice day" |
| 02:41.26 | kierra | doesnt appear to be |
| 02:41.37 | onpaq2pu | Bye everyone sorry to bring this matter in here. |
| 02:41.52 | onpaq2pu | and happy holidays. |
| 02:42.23 | uso | nvm, he's gone |
| 02:46.19 | kierra | he wasnt as bad as someone else |
| 02:47.36 | *** topic/#bzleague by kierra -> /BZFlag players and league chat || Also see #bzchat || Picturenot ms of bzplayers: http://pics.bzleague.com || Locations of bzplayers: http://www.frappr.com/bzflagplayers || dv to Florida in less than 8weeks and counting!! || When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber. || free orange, now with enhanced meaning || "95% of this game is half mental." Yogi Berra |
| 02:52.32 | kierra | this takes on new meaning after tonight, orange ---> free orange, now with enhanced meaning |
| 02:53.05 | orange | oh? |
| 03:01.37 | uso | still no gu admin? |
| 03:01.52 | uso | cheater is probably back |
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| 03:13.26 | anteater | hello |
| 03:13.55 | RedBaron2 | ~bonk anteater |
| 03:13.57 | jbot | ACTION bonks anteater over the head |
| 03:14.14 | anteater | ty :-D |
| 03:15.39 | RedBaron2 | anytime :D |
| 03:22.51 | RedBaron2 | ~lart anteater |
| 03:23.10 | anteater | lol |
| 03:23.20 | RedBaron2 | ~frag anteater |
| 03:23.21 | jbot | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at anteater |
| 03:23.29 | RedBaron2 | i'm gonna kill you :-p |
| 03:23.52 | anteater | u can try and shall not succeed :-P |
| 03:24.37 | RedBaron2 | gah..i wouldn't count on it if i were you! |
| 03:24.48 | anteater | lol |
| 03:25.17 | RedBaron2 | its a good thing i'm going up to NY for a week or so, someplace cold to cool off! |
| 03:25.46 | anteater | lol |
| 03:26.37 | anteater | if i think u are talking about what i think you are i tried to help you :-D |
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| 03:27.49 | anteater | brb |
| 03:27.57 | RedBaron2 | .. |
| 03:28.07 | RedBaron2 | better make it longer than just "brb" for your own good... |
| 03:28.15 | anteater | need to go tell my parents good night :-D |
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| 03:32.08 | anteater | back |
| 03:32.24 | kierra | ok ant |
| 03:32.32 | RedBaron2 | ~lart anteater |
| 03:32.35 | kierra | whats with the quote in #kierra |
| 03:33.08 | anteater | something i found in a book :-D |
| 03:33.19 | anteater | let me find the page and i will tell you who said it |
| 03:35.15 | anteater | it was catullus |
| 03:38.15 | kierra | time for me to head to bed |
| 03:38.19 | kierra | g'nite |
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| 14:31.32 | moriah | menotume ping |
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| 14:44.09 | moriah | ~wake menotume |
| 14:44.12 | jbot | menotume: GOOD MORNING!!! |
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| 14:59.38 | kierra | menotume ping |
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| 15:10.22 | TheRedBaron | mornin conan |
| 15:10.30 | TheRedBaron | Glad to see you playing matches! |
| 15:26.04 | orange | hi all |
| 15:26.13 | Thonolan | hi orange |
| 15:27.00 | kierra | ~wake menotume |
| 15:27.01 | jbot | menotume: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 15:28.46 | kierra | orange, i have a question |
| 15:31.03 | kierra | thonolan |
| 15:31.09 | Thonolan | yes |
| 15:31.18 | Thonolan | kierra :) |
| 15:31.29 | kierra | did you see your pm? |
| 15:31.33 | TheRedBaron | run away thonolan |
| 15:31.55 | kierra | orange is ignoring me too |
| 15:31.59 | Thonolan | yes i see kierra |
| 15:31.59 | Thonolan | :) |
| 15:32.05 | Thonolan | hmm |
| 15:32.14 | Thonolan | did you see my pm ? |
| 15:32.23 | orange | heh, I answered 3 seconds before you said that, kierra |
| 15:32.28 | Thonolan | :) |
| 15:32.40 | TheRedBaron | thonolan did you re-identify after you changed from thono|doggy |
| 15:32.51 | kierra | no i didnt thono? |
| 15:32.53 | Thonolan | ah no |
| 15:33.00 | Thonolan | ok wait sorry kierra |
| 15:33.02 | TheRedBaron | ~bonk thonolan |
| 15:33.03 | jbot | ACTION bonks thonolan over the head |
| 15:33.06 | Thonolan | aua |
| 15:33.09 | Thonolan | och |
| 15:33.29 | orange | impatient kierra :-) |
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| 15:34.28 | orange | I'm a little slow this morning |
| 15:34.31 | orange | hi learner |
| 15:34.39 | learner | howdy orangie |
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| 15:35.25 | SportChick | ~learner++ |
| 15:35.28 | kierra | learner is slumming |
| 15:35.35 | SportChick | learner rocks :) |
| 15:35.40 | learner | howdy kierra, ltns |
| 15:35.46 | SportChick | ~lart kierra for trying to scare learner away! |
| 15:35.48 | learner | mm.. oj on the rocks |
| 15:36.33 | SportChick | wow, late for you, learner |
| 15:36.46 | learner | you woke me :P |
| 15:36.53 | SportChick | awww :( |
| 15:36.56 | learner | :) |
| 15:37.02 | learner | mm |
| 15:37.04 | kierra | a thousand pardons, learner......dont go away b/c of my comment....been reading too much of DB lately |
| 15:37.12 | learner | i tried to get sushi on monday |
| 15:37.14 | learner | was so upset |
| 15:37.17 | SportChick | tried? |
| 15:37.27 | learner | kierra, quite alright |
| 15:37.29 | SportChick | Monday was hubby's birthday |
| 15:37.46 | SportChick | learner: but he takes me out for sushi on MY birthday - not the other way around.. :( |
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| 15:37.53 | SportChick | hehe |
| 15:38.01 | SportChick | silly silly learner |
| 15:38.22 | SportChick | so, learner, gonna reactivate BzR? |
| 15:38.27 | learner | i was craving subs or sushi monday .. left work, and subshop was closed |
| 15:38.31 | learner | sushi place was close |
| 15:38.36 | SportChick | aua |
| 15:38.40 | SportChick | bad bad shops |
| 15:38.51 | SportChick | when did you leave work?! 2AM? |
| 15:38.52 | TheRedBaron | ~bad sushi |
| 15:38.54 | jbot | Bad sushi, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 15:38.58 | learner | so i would up eating about two dozen chicken wings |
| 15:39.07 | kierra | yikes |
| 15:39.09 | learner | that were even hot for me |
| 15:39.12 | SportChick | hehe |
| 15:39.19 | SportChick | wasabi, hot wings....hrm |
| 15:39.46 | learner | wasabi isn't hot to me |
| 15:39.51 | SportChick | not to me either |
| 15:39.51 | learner | it just asphixiates :) |
| 15:39.59 | SportChick | tho I've been accused of eating it like guacamole |
| 15:40.33 | learner | BzR would revive if there were other BzRs playing |
| 15:40.45 | SportChick | I saw another the other day :) |
| 15:40.51 | learner | i rarely see any of the old chums on, much less myself |
| 15:40.54 | learner | oh, who? |
| 15:41.05 | TheRedBaron | greg |
| 15:41.11 | learner | ahh, good ol greg |
| 15:41.16 | SportChick | yep |
| 15:41.18 | SportChick | greg |
| 15:41.21 | learner | cept he's like down under |
| 15:41.28 | learner | makes really hard for matches :) |
| 15:41.28 | SportChick | valley boy |
| 15:41.35 | learner | or wait |
| 15:41.38 | learner | that's mayhem |
| 15:41.42 | SportChick | hehe |
| 15:42.00 | SportChick | well, you've only got 16 players - you COULD recruit some more :) |
| 15:42.08 | learner | 16?! |
| 15:42.21 | learner | i think I left it open an people have been joining :) |
| 15:42.25 | SportChick | I see RC on too, from time to time, but she's usually in alias |
| 15:42.27 | SportChick | hehe |
| 15:42.29 | SportChick | yeah yeah |
| 15:42.31 | SportChick | sure.... |
| 15:42.36 | learner | really |
| 15:42.52 | learner | there are only about 6 original bzr folk |
| 15:43.08 | learner | maybe not even |
| 15:43.26 | SportChick | good grief, my team's been in existence less than two months and we've played almost 3 times as many matches as bzr! ;p |
| 15:43.37 | kierra | recruit some new players....i miss seeing you play :) |
| 15:43.44 | SportChick | I've seen him :) |
| 15:43.53 | learner | i've played recently! |
| 15:43.54 | SportChick | both under alias AND learner |
| 15:43.54 | SportChick | :) |
| 15:44.08 | learner | several times even |
| 15:44.09 | kierra | i dont know your alias |
| 15:44.13 | learner | horribly |
| 15:44.27 | learner | that's part of the point of playing under alias :) |
| 15:44.45 | kierra | i wouldn't tell a soul who you were |
| 15:45.02 | learner | get too many messages as learner |
| 15:45.16 | learner | i'm not expecting, but thanks |
| 15:45.37 | BZBot | New news from gumatches: Dec 21 15:29 => [pinozytose]:13, Links:0 |
| 15:45.40 | kierra | just pm me 'hi' |
| 15:45.45 | SportChick | wow |
| 15:46.18 | kierra | not here, silly....on bzf |
| 15:46.23 | learner | :) |
| 15:46.29 | SportChick | hehe |
| 15:46.35 | kierra | still pretty concrete |
| 15:46.39 | SportChick | yeah, then she'll look up your ip and your secret will be out :) |
| 15:46.45 | kierra | nah |
| 15:46.54 | kierra | i keep that info to myself |
| 15:47.10 | SportChick | (that's what I meant) :) |
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| 15:51.16 | SportChick | kierra: I really DO wish you had locked those topics now |
| 15:51.18 | learner | rather un-neighborly of you |
| 15:51.24 | learner | unless you hate your neighbors |
| 15:51.32 | SportChick | learner: yeah, butr things are pretty ridiculous around here latley |
| 15:51.35 | SportChick | lately* |
| 15:51.54 | SportChick | learner: or maybe they always have been and I'm just now discovering it |
| 15:53.07 | kierra | i dont think they were as bad as recently and last May |
| 15:53.30 | SportChick | probably not, but it needs to end. People need to move on and stop attacking one another |
| 15:53.50 | SportChick | I was very careful in my post not to attack anyone - to state facts, statistics and useful information |
| 15:54.04 | SportChick | but the attacks continue - some veiled and some outright |
| 15:54.34 | *** topic/#bzleague by learner -> /BZFlag players and league chat || Also see #bzchat || Pics of bzplayers: http://pics.bzleague.com || Locations of bzplayers: http://www.frappr.com/bzflagplayers || dv to Florida in less than 8weeks and counting!! || When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber. || free orange, now with enhanced meaning || "95% of this game is half mental." Yogi Berra || "it tastes like burning" Ralph Wiggum |
| 15:54.34 | *** topic/#bzleague by ChanServ -> /BZFlag players and league chat || Also see #bzchat || Picturenot ms of bzplayers: http://pics.bzleague.com || Locations of bzplayers: http://www.frappr.com/bzflagplayers || dv to Florida in less than 8weeks and counting!! || When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber. || free orange, now with enhanced meaning || "95% of this game is half mental." Yogi Berra |
| 15:55.02 | SportChick | hehe, you gotta be opped, learner :p |
| 15:55.34 | learner | why lock it? |
| 15:55.49 | TheRedBaron | so people like me dont' chang it :( |
| 15:55.51 | SportChick | you enjoy people going at one antoehr all day? |
| 15:56.23 | learner | just as annoying to have it change then change back |
| 15:56.27 | SportChick | learner: not the channel topic - the FORUM topic |
| 15:56.29 | learner | if someone abuses it, you kick them |
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| 15:56.56 | learner | SportChick, i'm just talking about in here |
| 15:56.57 | moriah | almost kicked someone last night |
| 15:57.11 | learner | so many.. names |
| 15:58.01 | learner | kicks shouldn't be almost |
| 15:58.04 | kierra | DB needs to read the #bzleague channel guidelines |
| 15:58.05 | learner | kicks are harmless |
| 15:58.12 | kierra | i meant ban |
| 15:58.23 | learner | well you kick before you ban |
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| 15:58.33 | learner | so if you never kicked, it's not worthy a ban |
| 15:58.51 | kierra | DB knows better |
| 15:59.03 | learner | exactly, so a kick is in good order |
| 15:59.04 | kierra | how many warnings does a person need |
| 15:59.19 | learner | saying it isn't the same as kicking |
| 15:59.33 | kierra | multiple warnings are nagging |
| 15:59.43 | kierra | i prefer justice to be swift |
| 15:59.57 | SportChick | his voice was removed after multiple warnings, learner |
| 16:00.20 | orange | did someone complain about the way the situation was handled last night? |
| 16:00.40 | SportChick | orange: not that I know of - we were merely discussing |
| 16:00.43 | kierra | i was getting ready to |
| 16:00.52 | kierra | asked you in #kierra how to ban |
| 16:01.13 | kierra | i didnt want to be an empty threat |
| 16:01.40 | kierra | to my mind he violated the channel guidelines many time over |
| 16:01.44 | learner | kierra, i'd agree -- swift an unemotioned. do this and your voice gets taken or you are kicked, do it again, you're banned for a while. simple, easy to follow. |
| 16:02.08 | kierra | i whole heartedly agree |
| 16:02.13 | orange | kierra: the problem was that other people were violating the guidelines too |
| 16:02.17 | kierra | thats the way i admin on the servers |
| 16:02.21 | orange | you can't be selective |
| 16:02.27 | learner | kick em all :) |
| 16:02.31 | kierra | true |
| 16:02.44 | SportChick | ban 'em all ( the secretplace motto) :) |
| 16:02.50 | kierra | i will have to look at the logs when they come out |
| 16:02.52 | SportChick | j/k |
| 16:03.03 | SportChick | kierra, i have it all logged |
| 16:03.04 | learner | it's way too late now |
| 16:03.06 | SportChick | you can see it now |
| 16:03.12 | orange | and, with respect to db, if he needed to be kicked or silence, better that it was done by me than others |
| 16:03.20 | orange | if you did it he'd just claim you were doing it to be vindictive |
| 16:03.37 | SportChick | http://pastebin.ca/34438 |
| 16:03.51 | SportChick | orange: very true |
| 16:03.53 | SportChick | sad but true |
| 16:03.54 | learner | if it's a dispute/argument you were having, usually out of line for someone in the argument to kick/ban |
| 16:04.06 | learner | unless it's specifically an argument about the channel rules |
| 16:05.29 | orange | why do we need to relive this? |
| 16:06.14 | SportChick | so how about them Jayhawks? |
| 16:06.25 | orange | who are the Jayhawks? :-) |
| 16:06.42 | SportChick | grrr./..where are the /kick rights when you need them?! |
| 16:06.49 | orange | hehe |
| 16:07.01 | orange | oh, it's a band, cool |
| 16:07.06 | SportChick | pfft |
| 16:08.13 | TheRedBaron | Orange: why do you keep turning a blind eye to the injustice and anarchy? |
| 16:08.30 | SportChick | uhoh |
| 16:09.51 | orange | TheRedBaron: because from the outside of it all, there is some blame to be spread around to everyone |
| 16:10.42 | TheRedBaron | and thats a valid reason to shun it? |
| 16:11.08 | orange | it's a valid reason to come into the middle of a heated discussion and ask everyone to stop |
| 16:11.50 | orange | most did |
| 16:11.54 | orange | those who didn't were stopped |
| 16:12.02 | orange | so how is that a blind eye? |
| 16:12.21 | orange | if you're asking me to take sides, I don't want to |
| 16:12.31 | TheRedBaron | nvm, I"m asking the wrong man... |
| 16:13.57 | learner | orange has been around quite long enough to know there are plenty of arguments that are best held with impartiality |
| 16:14.24 | learner | as have you TheRedBaron :) |
| 16:14.34 | TheRedBaron | stand in the middle of the road.... get hit by both sides of traffic... |
| 16:14.38 | TheRedBaron | learner: mostly yes.. |
| 16:14.43 | learner | heh, mostly |
| 16:15.07 | TheRedBaron | unfortunately, claiming impartiality in the current discussion, is out of the question for me. |
| 16:15.10 | orange | I'm not in the middle of the road, I just refuse to enter traffic |
| 16:15.32 | orange | at least in this climate of discussion |
| 16:16.03 | TheRedBaron | Orange: I am sorry. I tried asking something of you, for which you are not responsible... |
| 16:16.19 | kierra | DB always sinks to bathroom comments (for lack of a better term) when discussing things here |
| 16:16.28 | orange | yes he does |
| 16:16.42 | learner | as for Death_Barrel's claims in that log regarding lag fluctuations, he's quite wrong |
| 16:16.44 | kierra | i think that breaks #bzleague channel rules |
| 16:16.54 | learner | lag can and does fluctuate |
| 16:17.00 | kierra | why have rules if we dont enforce them |
| 16:17.03 | learner | more than 40ms in many instances |
| 16:17.07 | orange | there was quite a bit of potty-mouth going on last night kierra |
| 16:17.08 | learner | and outside of the users control |
| 16:17.10 | orange | when I rejoined |
| 16:17.15 | kierra | yes there was |
| 16:17.25 | orange | that's why I asked everyone to stop |
| 16:18.00 | orange | there's a psychological side to it, as well... some people, when singled out, only get worse |
| 16:18.09 | kierra | well, next time I will warn, then kick, then ban |
| 16:18.25 | learner | it is true, though, that anything under 200ms is acceptible for matches |
| 16:18.38 | kierra | some ppl ask for it in spades |
| 16:18.40 | orange | that's fine, just be clear on what rule you are enforcing, and be sure to apply it to all equally |
| 16:18.49 | TheRedBaron | anything over 200ms is not acceptible |
| 16:18.50 | learner | 250ms that persists for more than a minute is when you have to decide whether to cancel the match |
| 16:18.57 | kierra | i will, including my kids....so dont worry |
| 16:19.09 | kierra | but they usually arent a problem |
| 16:19.18 | learner | that's been the long standing "lag rule" in the league |
| 16:19.35 | TheRedBaron | yup |
| 16:19.40 | TheRedBaron | but now the generation of players... |
| 16:19.42 | learner | what you have to be careful about is that lag does spike |
| 16:19.43 | ToughShooter | TheRedBaron: Have you ever seen "DeathDealer"s lag on GU? |
| 16:19.49 | TheRedBaron | they have to see it in writing |
| 16:19.52 | TheRedBaron | toughshooter: yup |
| 16:19.55 | TheRedBaron | and kicked him for it |
| 16:19.59 | learner | so just because you see 350 all of the sudden doesn't mean the match is cancelled |
| 16:20.01 | learner | it has to persist |
| 16:20.21 | ToughShooter | TheRedBaron: He got autokicked in a offi match.. |
| 16:20.35 | TheRedBaron | did they call in unofficial? |
| 16:21.05 | ToughShooter | No idea, I came in around mid of the offi |
| 16:21.26 | learner | jitter is a mostly useless metric for matches too, btw |
| 16:21.31 | Thonolan | learner sorry that i break into but is the different of the lag not importand too ? if i have 19 ms and the other over 160 ? if i go to another server where i have 60 ms and the other 160 again ? is that not a different ? |
| 16:21.35 | learner | what that number even means has changed several times in the code |
| 16:21.42 | ToughShooter | but I've never seen him having less than 290 +- 12ms |
| 16:22.17 | TheRedBaron | toughshooter: the "Lag rule" in the leagues, have never said. that if its above 200ms consistently, you can't call the match official |
| 16:22.37 | ToughShooter | TheRedBaron: I know but it counted |
| 16:22.38 | TheRedBaron | what it does mean. is that you now have a valid option to blame the lag, and call it unofficial |
| 16:22.44 | learner | Thonolan, for the purpose of a match those numbers are all fair game |
| 16:22.52 | TheRedBaron | toughshooter: who decided to call it official? |
| 16:22.57 | Thonolan | ah ok learner thx |
| 16:23.01 | TheRedBaron | both teams? |
| 16:23.13 | ToughShooter | TheRedBaron: it was not my team playing and both accepted |
| 16:23.14 | TheRedBaron | or the winning team? or the loosing team? |
| 16:23.23 | TheRedBaron | then its a perfectly legite match |
| 16:23.51 | learner | TheRedBaron, there usually has been that grey area where lag is 200-300 that the players have to unanimously agree whether to accept it or not |
| 16:23.56 | learner | before playing |
| 16:24.03 | TheRedBaron | exactly |
| 16:24.13 | learner | i played several matches where we agreed that 250 was fine |
| 16:24.17 | ToughShooter | TheRedBaron: Yes, just saying that some people are pretty tolerant |
| 16:24.20 | learner | especially when playing folks across the pond |
| 16:24.35 | TheRedBaron | ToughShooter: ok... I'm quite tolerate also |
| 16:24.39 | TheRedBaron | up to 200ms :) |
| 16:24.49 | TheRedBaron | i usually do not prefer to play that |
| 16:25.30 | learner | also matters who you're playing |
| 16:25.52 | learner | an experienced player can blindly anticipate a newbie with 250ms lag |
| 16:26.03 | learner | but experienced vs experienced and it's like shooting blind |
| 16:26.27 | learner | for both if they're equally good |
| 16:29.16 | learner | hmm |
| 16:29.45 | learner | it's not at all the same as playing with the accelerated mouse |
| 16:30.27 | learner | *sigh* i've had to explain that one how many times now.. |
| 16:32.14 | Thonolan | learner did you know that you can steering mouse pointer with kb ? OS linux Desktop kde |
| 16:32.30 | SportChick | learner, I've never heard that explanation - can you piont me to a log so you don't have to do it again? |
| 16:33.08 | learner | Thonolan: of course, most OS I know of has some means for that |
| 16:33.20 | Thonolan | and under system steering you can accerelate mousepointer too but you use kb |
| 16:33.20 | Thonolan | ah ok |
| 16:33.39 | learner | you simply can't generate keyboard events fast enough to cause the ME problem |
| 16:34.00 | learner | SportChick, there have been several in #bz, but i couldn't point to a specific day |
| 16:34.24 | SportChick | learner: ok :( |
| 16:34.50 | learner | there's a fundamental event generation time with keyboards, mice, joysticks, and all input devices |
| 16:35.31 | learner | keyboards are notoriously slow on just about every modern system, compared to mice event generation they are snails |
| 16:36.10 | orange | the time to go from full-left rotational speed to full-right rotational speed... how does that compare? |
| 16:36.33 | orange | don't the kb controls have built-in ramp-up time? |
| 16:36.50 | learner | on top of that, the different physical motions required are inherintly slower between keyboard and mouse. you can twitch a wrist back and forth almost an order of magnitude faster than you can press two keys in alternation |
| 16:37.25 | TheRedBaron | or in my case. twitch your thumb :) |
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| 16:37.36 | learner | you might think you've got fast fingers, but the mouse will have generated hundreds of events when the keys only generated a dozen or two |
| 16:38.58 | learner | orange, and that's the third caveat - keys do have a ramp up and ramp down accelleration padding (or at least the last time I worked on the code they did) |
| 16:39.10 | learner | mouse is unpadded |
| 16:39.21 | orange | which is what -a was trying to solve, but in a backwards way |
| 16:40.46 | Thonolan | thx for info learner |
| 16:41.18 | learner | for the sake of argument, you could presume that someone has removed the client side key padding so that it is true instant acceleration -- even with that, the mouse will win with larger acceleration spikes |
| 16:45.43 | TheRedBaron | learner: in your belief. what is ME? |
| 16:47.23 | learner | remember that acceleration is the change in velocity for a timestep, if the mouse is generating events at 1/1000ms and keys at 1/250 with an activation delay of about 1/500ms for a mouse and 1/50ms for keyboards, the mouse will generate a tremendous change in velocity over a span over 2 single video frames, they keyboard will span at least 4-5 frames dampening the acceleration considerably |
| 16:47.46 | learner | and 4-5 frames is being incredibly generous |
| 16:48.11 | menotume | thank you learner ! |
| 16:48.13 | learner | presumes a fast-twitching mo-fo kid that should probably be playing the guitar instead of video games |
| 16:48.19 | TheRedBaron | hey! |
| 16:48.30 | Thonolan | hey menotume |
| 16:48.35 | menotume | :) |
| 16:48.43 | learner | morning menotume |
| 16:48.45 | TheRedBaron | :) |
| 16:49.17 | kierra | just the man i was going to pm |
| 16:49.38 | TheRedBaron | learner: http://images.unpatented.com/MouseE.jpg |
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| 16:50.08 | TheRedBaron | I am curious as to what exactly is the function of the PS/2 report rate [rep./sec] |
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| 16:50.44 | orange | I hate screenshots of windows... I always click on the 'cancel' button or something to dismiss it |
| 16:50.52 | orange | then I just feel dumb |
| 16:51.06 | CBG | eXtreme: ping!! |
| 16:51.12 | learner | TheRedBaron, the PS/2 bus only listens to input devices at a certain frequency |
| 16:51.34 | learner | so even if they are generating absurd numbers of events, the ps/2 bus might not be listening |
| 16:51.45 | learner | it's a polling interface |
| 16:51.49 | TheRedBaron | ah... |
| 16:52.14 | CBG | Can anyone match on GU? |
| 16:52.18 | CBG | Barons? |
| 16:52.22 | TheRedBaron | ~lart cbg |
| 16:52.27 | CBG | :D |
| 16:52.51 | TheRedBaron | so if I lower it to 40... what is that doing? |
| 16:53.05 | CBG | learner...? |
| 16:53.11 | TheRedBaron | 40 reports per sec? |
| 16:53.15 | learner | TheRedBaron, yes |
| 16:53.25 | TheRedBaron | or 200 reports per second.... |
| 16:53.27 | TheRedBaron | ok |
| 16:53.43 | TheRedBaron | its not a setting of generating those reports... |
| 16:53.52 | TheRedBaron | its a setting of how many it will listen to |
| 16:53.59 | learner | right |
| 16:54.18 | TheRedBaron | my mouse has the capability of generating... say 300 rep per sec... |
| 16:54.23 | learner | the acceleration setting determines the extremity of the event since mouse events are in some 2d context |
| 16:54.38 | TheRedBaron | but it will only listen to 200 of those 300 right? |
| 16:54.55 | learner | right |
| 16:55.06 | TheRedBaron | is that good or bad? |
| 16:55.10 | orange | CBG: didn't seem ambiguous... read the log of this channel where you will find information about how the keyboard works in bzflag, which would seem to contradict something you said at some point |
| 16:55.22 | orange | that's my interpretation |
| 16:55.27 | CBG | Uh...? |
| 16:55.33 | TheRedBaron | i think learner ment Death Barrel |
| 16:55.37 | CBG | Something I said at some point...? |
| 16:55.43 | CBG | Like? 2 mins ago? |
| 16:55.46 | CBG | 2 days ago? |
| 16:55.49 | CBG | 2 months ago? |
| 16:55.51 | TheRedBaron | as he was the one with the claim that keyboard could duplicate ME |
| 16:55.53 | learner | TheRedBaron, that isn't good or bad, it's just what it does .. it does mean that there's going to be effectively no time between the time the mouse generates the event and the ps/2 bus hears it |
| 16:55.56 | CBG | Totally random, irrelevant comment. |
| 16:56.07 | learner | TheRedBaron, I meant CBG |
| 16:56.09 | CBG | TheRedBaron: can you and RedBaron2 or someone, match on GU? |
| 16:56.24 | TheRedBaron | learner: my bad... |
| 16:56.36 | learner | CBG you were talking with someone last night or earlier about keyboard being fair play |
| 16:56.37 | TheRedBaron | cbg, later, I'm in a discussion with learner right now ;) |
| 16:56.39 | CBG | In response to DB last night, I said that if he said ME is instant accel. then is using keyboards cheating? |
| 16:56.52 | CBG | Ok TheRedBaron . :) |
| 16:57.04 | learner | you sorta lost ground when they threw the classic "but it's instant acceleration" at you |
| 16:57.15 | learner | so.. read up |
| 16:57.20 | CBG | eh? |
| 16:57.26 | learner | i just explained it again |
| 16:57.33 | CBG | If ME is instant accel, is using the keys cheating? |
| 16:57.38 | learner | perhaps not the best explanation, but there it is |
| 16:57.39 | CBG | That is all I said to DB. |
| 16:57.52 | CBG | And I don't have time for this now. Later please. |
| 16:58.03 | orange | right, CBG, and it indicates a misunderstanding of how the keys work, which learner explained in this channel today |
| 16:58.12 | orange | so if you read the logs, it will possibly help clear that up |
| 16:58.13 | menotume | TheRedBaron: If there's technical information in that discussion that others could benifit from, we'd like to hear it |
| 16:58.25 | TheRedBaron | Learner: would the reports per sec, have any effect on "ME" |
| 16:58.25 | CBG | well...... thanks...... |
| 16:58.27 | CBG | can I go now? |
| 16:58.37 | menotume | It's time that the REAL information is posted in the forums (I will do that) :) |
| 16:58.39 | learner | TheRedBaron: definitely |
| 16:58.51 | learner | how much is really up to a lot of timings |
| 16:58.59 | TheRedBaron | Learner: cool, could you explain? |
| 16:59.03 | menotume | CBG: dismissed |
| 16:59.23 | TheRedBaron | Menotume: no one crusading against "ME" has provided technical information... |
| 16:59.37 | menotume | exatcly |
| 17:00.09 | TheRedBaron | which is why I blew up last night |
| 17:00.10 | learner | you have the input device generating hardware events, the computer listening to those events (ps/2 bus, usb bus, serial bus, etc), bzflag has a run-loop receiving input events at a particular rate (think fps), and then performing calculations based on the magnitude of the changes |
| 17:00.18 | menotume | learner: I will summarize all this (and run it by you), so that you don't ever have to explain it again :) |
| 17:00.28 | TheRedBaron | when death barrel said keyboard has instanst accel, Which is what ME is... according to him |
| 17:01.51 | learner | you can't cause the same effect with a keyboard that you can with a mouse both physically and event-wise |
| 17:02.13 | Admirarch | Given all this there is a decision to be made over whether or not the league actually has a problem with it, and it's not entirely obvious who can make that decision |
| 17:02.22 | learner | menotume, that'd be great |
| 17:02.32 | menotume | :) |
| 17:03.00 | learner | Admirarch, whether the league has a problem with it, there's not much that can be done about it without changing the source code of at least the servers |
| 17:03.02 | menotume | leaguewise, I think all servers should have the -a setting until new bzflga versions can deal with the issue |
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| 17:03.28 | learner | or using the latest and using -a, which is mildly hackish |
| 17:03.36 | menotume | yes |
| 17:03.48 | SportChick | menotume: yes, but what levels - that too much be decided & agreed upon |
| 17:03.54 | learner | never checked into what out of order event packets would do to it |
| 17:03.56 | menotume | but, my /accellstats hack showed that it did *something* |
| 17:04.05 | Admirarch | learner: Which is what we're leaning towards at the moment, but by no logical process of decision making |
| 17:04.45 | menotume | It would be virtually impossible to make a league rule banning ME |
| 17:04.59 | menotume | 1) Can't define ME |
| 17:05.03 | menotume | 2) can't enforce it |
| 17:05.22 | menotume | 3) ME users who don't understand the issue will be mad |
| 17:05.26 | learner | it's sort of like that old argument about shooting your enemy on respawn after a capture, or suiciding to garner a position across the field |
| 17:05.34 | learner | it might be low, but the game "allows" it |
| 17:06.15 | Admirarch | What is needed is a decision on what server config the ducati style league supports, including the value of -a. And it looks like it's going to end up being down to server owners |
| 17:06.29 | learner | can't really detect it, someone could have a nice high speed system where high acceleration was their natural settings |
| 17:06.48 | menotume | and *can* be detected |
| 17:06.58 | menotume | /accelstats showed it |
| 17:07.12 | menotume | but, it was affected somehat by lag |
| 17:07.20 | Admirarch | menotume: What exactly did it show? |
| 17:07.28 | learner | can't detect it as being something someone actively modified to gain an advantage |
| 17:07.38 | learner | it could be natural setting |
| 17:07.39 | menotume | maximum linear and roational acceleration (at the server) |
| 17:07.51 | menotume | learner: yes |
| 17:07.55 | learner | the code can of course threshold the acceleration at some arbitrary level |
| 17:08.28 | learner | or (better) dampen the acceleration |
| 17:08.53 | learner | like how the client does for keys, but server-side for all planar motion |
| 17:09.10 | menotume | /accelstats, for example showed a ME user having accelration of 50(linear) |
| 17:09.15 | learner | the problem becomes incorporating flags |
| 17:09.30 | menotume | but, when -a 45 35 was applied, /accelstats showed max for that same person of 45 linear |
| 17:09.46 | menotume | right, high speed, etc |
| 17:10.15 | learner | high speed, agility, jumping, wings, fast turn, probably a few others |
| 17:11.35 | Admirarch | Incidentally, is there nobody else who simply doesn't have a problem with whatever acceleration levels people can manage to achieve? |
| 17:11.54 | learner | that could be solved on protocol break by just sending different events for the flag'd folks |
| 17:12.32 | menotume | I hope this is a high priority for the new version |
| 17:12.50 | learner | Admirarch, the problem is that given the right settings, you can make it practically impossible to hit someone |
| 17:12.52 | menotume | IMO, it's a big issue, not only in the leagues |
| 17:13.13 | learner | most don't set it that high I imagine if only because it borders on looking like cheating |
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| 17:13.22 | menotume | some do :) |
| 17:13.35 | menotume | and get accused of cheating :) |
| 17:13.40 | learner | PerfectXell? :) |
| 17:13.52 | Admirarch | learner: At the moment there is nobody I can't hit, find me somebody and I'll be more worried |
| 17:13.53 | Xell | hello :) |
| 17:14.11 | menotume | Admirarch is in denial :) |
| 17:14.32 | learner | it's not impossible, they are obviously "somewhere" |
| 17:14.44 | TheRedBaron | where? |
| 17:14.46 | learner | it's a matter of what void of air do you have to shoot at to hit them |
| 17:14.54 | learner | couple that with an ounce of lag |
| 17:15.00 | learner | and you have a recipe for bzcookies |
| 17:15.05 | TheRedBaron | Sweet! |
| 17:15.12 | TheRedBaron | how come i've never had those cookies? |
| 17:15.26 | learner | they're bitter |
| 17:15.41 | TheRedBaron | ug. |
| 17:15.41 | Admirarch | And you have no idea how much FUN I have in a match against Mikkel and Skit trying to pin them both down |
| 17:16.17 | menotume | We should probably leave names out of this. |
| 17:16.34 | menotume | Admirarch: how are you aginst snick? |
| 17:16.34 | menotume | :P |
| 17:16.51 | TheRedBaron | Never engage him in a rico battle... |
| 17:16.57 | TheRedBaron | but up close, he's quite killable. |
| 17:16.57 | Admirarch | menotume: I've not played him as much |
| 17:17.32 | Admirarch | But much of his unkillability seems to lie in unnaturally good concentration |
| 17:17.52 | TheRedBaron | You're snick! |
| 17:17.57 | TheRedBaron | I knew it! |
| 17:17.59 | menotume | IMO, even if there is no 'bug' in the logic ... A game with enhirant lag cannot allow movements which are tooo fast |
| 17:18.04 | learner | if you want ammunition against acceleration-advantaged players |
| 17:18.12 | TheRedBaron | slow bullets :) |
| 17:18.13 | learner | get good at fighting around pyramids |
| 17:18.33 | learner | you can't accelerate-jitter your way around a pyramid |
| 17:18.38 | learner | the benefit is mostly when they're out in the open |
| 17:19.05 | menotume | the seem do do some odd things when up against a wall of a building |
| 17:19.14 | learner | there was one player many many moons ago that was making a killing on a server, nobody could hit him |
| 17:19.58 | learner | he seemingly dodged everything, racking up points to know end |
| 17:19.58 | TheRedBaron | name the player... |
| 17:19.58 | learner | sure enough, I jump in, and they dodged as well as some of the better i'd seen |
| 17:20.13 | learner | then I took cover, and scored over 20 kills in a row |
| 17:20.23 | learner | they couldn't manage the pyramid |
| 17:20.50 | learner | TheRedBaron, to what end? |
| 17:21.17 | TheRedBaron | I'm curious, and knowing the playing may offer a better explination than, "oh must be an ME user" |
| 17:21.38 | learner | menotume, not surprising, the acceleration would keep thrusting them into the wall and their own client would be thrusting them off various angles |
| 17:21.54 | menotume | yes, that's what it looks like |
| 17:21.56 | learner | i'm not saying they were/weren't an ME user |
| 17:22.09 | learner | but the effect is the same |
| 17:22.16 | menotume | what does it matter ... if you're a good dodger, ME only helps |
| 17:22.30 | learner | the advantage is mostly out in the open, they can't jitter around a corner any faster |
| 17:22.31 | menotume | and just isn't right when lag is involved IMO |
| 17:23.11 | menotume | if there was no lag, and all clients were in sync with each other, fast accell would be fine |
| 17:23.28 | learner | what would be funny is if it would just thrust them enough to seal them, and make them get stuck :) |
| 17:23.34 | learner | like the old pyramid bug used to do :) |
| 17:23.48 | menotume | i still get sealed against mids sometimes |
| 17:23.59 | menotume | nbut, i'm killable |
| 17:24.08 | learner | mids? |
| 17:24.10 | TheRedBaron | between the walla nd a building.. |
| 17:24.13 | menotume | pyramids |
| 17:24.21 | learner | ah |
| 17:24.40 | menotume | come on, get with the jargon :) |
| 17:25.14 | learner | heh |
| 17:25.29 | learner | it looked like nids at first |
| 17:25.54 | menotume | with my typing, i wouldn't be surprised :) |
| 17:26.11 | TheRedBaron | Well, I'm going to play bz.... |
| 17:26.34 | Xell | have fun |
| 17:27.07 | menotume | learner: thx for your time and expertise |
| 17:30.57 | learner | no prob, thx for listening and apologies to those of you that didn't care to hear my ranting explanations ;) |
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| 17:31.45 | menotume | it's really not just the league |
| 17:32.30 | learner | i know, but the league matters more, it's ducati-style ;) |
| 17:32.41 | menotume | ME is more prevelant in the league, and leageish servers (public GU, public DUB), but it's speading, like a virus :) |
| 17:32.43 | learner | ducati-style is what really matters :) |
| 17:32.48 | menotume | yay :) |
| 17:33.16 | menotume | yes, not quite as obvious on jumping servers and with super-flags |
| 17:33.28 | Admirarch | Hmm, molez is back |
| 17:33.34 | menotume | oh ? |
| 17:33.42 | menotume | where |
| 17:33.50 | Admirarch | dub public |
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| 17:58.54 | uso | learner: keyboard movement is not dampered for forward/backward movement, only for right/left |
| 17:59.43 | uso | and regarding the number of events, keyboard needs only one event to reach max speed, mouse needs a lot more events to cross the mousebox to reach max speed |
| 18:01.27 | learner | uso: both of these I well know |
| 18:01.53 | learner | everything I said still stands |
| 18:02.16 | learner | you can generate those N mouse events considerably easier to reach a "max speed" |
| 18:02.26 | learner | regardless, again, it's not about reaching a max speed |
| 18:02.40 | learner | it's the rate and magnitude of _change_ in velocity |
| 18:04.09 | uso | rate is higher with mouse, magnitude is higher with keyboard, problem is the slow update over the network |
| 18:04.36 | uso | and the coipling of the game physics to the presentation layer, i.e. frame rate |
| 18:04.39 | learner | and just what, preytell are you basing that on? |
| 18:04.59 | uso | *coupling |
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| 18:05.45 | uso | ~dict preytell |
| 18:06.02 | learner | have you read the code and tested the timings yourself or just intuition? |
| 18:06.23 | SportyGal | uso: please tell |
| 18:06.29 | uso | regarding keyboard movement ... reading the code |
| 18:06.47 | uso | regarding dependance of frame rate ... testing |
| 18:07.10 | learner | there is a coupling to the frame rate (i mentioned that) |
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| 18:07.34 | learner | but saying "rate is higher with mouse, magnitude is higher with keyboard" simply isn't necessarily true |
| 18:07.36 | uso | as you may remember i (unfortunatly) can switch my frame rate with switchiong on/off the bzflag console |
| 18:08.15 | uso | at ducati this gives a change from 250 to 50 fps |
| 18:09.10 | uso | rate is higher with mouse ... you can faster move a mouse forward/backwar then pressing 2 different keys alternating |
| 18:09.43 | learner | the latter part is true |
| 18:10.00 | uso | magnitude is higher with keyboard as every keypress gives a full change, 0 to 100% of speed |
| 18:10.11 | learner | maybe just exact words, the max rate possible is generally higher with a mouse |
| 18:10.38 | uso | yes |
| 18:11.28 | learner | ahh |
| 18:11.33 | learner | magnitude of the velocity |
| 18:11.36 | learner | sure |
| 18:11.41 | learner | not the acceleration though |
| 18:11.42 | uso | but that itself still should not be a problem |
| 18:12.06 | uso | imho the problem is that this rate of changes can not be transferred over the network |
| 18:12.08 | learner | since the change isn't instantaneous event-wise |
| 18:12.50 | uso | i don't know the network code of bzflag at all :) |
| 18:13.04 | learner | that's certainly one of the issues, but not the crux of the problem |
| 18:18.39 | uso | the acceleration is infinite (without -a), both for keyboard (for forward/backward movement) and for mouse, as the speed control in bzflag is not a throttle control, it's a speed control |
| 18:19.05 | uso | speed will be set with one even, with no time interval, so accel is infinite |
| 18:19.27 | uso | what may be different is the median acceleration over time |
| 18:20.15 | uso | *one event |
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| 19:45.55 | learner | accel is potentially infinite, in practice it's based on the magnitude of the change over how many cycles in the event loop |
| 19:46.33 | learner | the difference between keys and mice will be how many cycles of the event loop happen before the change, mouse being considerably fewer |
| 19:46.49 | learner | since the time delta is only a few frames, the computed acceleration is huge |
| 19:47.36 | learner | since the time delta for just switching keys is considerably more frames, the computed acceleration isn't as much, and gets worse to change it repeatedly |
| 19:48.37 | orange | does this affect the DR then? |
| 19:48.41 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 21 19:28 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:7, [TLZ] The Legendary ZeeBrothers:5 |
| 19:49.01 | learner | heh, it all screws with DR |
| 19:49.12 | learner | the events, the rates, the latency, the lag |
| 19:50.50 | learner | in particular, the sudden acceleration causes your own client to think that at the current rate, next frame he will be "here" when testing whether someone else's shot has hit them |
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| 19:51.27 | learner | that "here" is wrong since the next frame or two, they've reversed effectively sitting still |
| 19:51.50 | learner | sort of like knowing the position of an electron, you can know it's velocity or it's position, but not both :) |
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| 19:58.45 | orange | hehe, interesting |
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| 20:17.21 | CBG | Hello folks :) |
| 20:18.53 | Baroness | hi CBG |
| 20:18.54 | kierra | ~lart cbg |
| 20:19.00 | CBG | :) |
| 20:19.10 | kierra | :) |
| 20:21.40 | CBG | Baroness: http://www.kaziaz.com/stuff/Coca%20Cola%20Christmas%20Elves%20commercial.mpeg |
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| 20:28.13 | CBG | Yo Saturos :D |
| 20:28.23 | CBG | Saturos: http://www.kaziaz.com/stuff/Coca%20Cola%20Christmas%20Elves%20commercial.mpeg |
| 20:28.43 | Saturos | yo... |
| 20:28.53 | kierra | cbg, do you own stock in coke |
| 20:29.01 | Saturos | downloading... |
| 20:29.08 | CBG | kierra: No. considering it after I see this commercial... |
| 20:29.16 | CBG | Oh biy, i LOVE it so much! |
| 20:29.19 | CBG | boy* |
| 20:29.25 | Baroness | it didn't work for me on this comp... |
| 20:29.31 | CBG | aww :( |
| 20:29.48 | CBG | Your mom saw it, so it must work on her machine. ;) |
| 20:30.01 | kierra | she's at work |
| 20:30.03 | Baroness | lol...yes but i'm at work.. |
| 20:30.07 | CBG | ahh :) |
| 20:31.21 | Saturos | hmm... I dont like it. |
| 20:31.25 | CBG | :( |
| 20:31.28 | Saturos | dunno why... |
| 20:31.34 | Saturos | doesnt appeal to me |
| 20:31.36 | CBG | You break my heart! :( |
| 20:31.39 | Saturos | :P |
| 20:32.16 | CBG | I watched it so many times, I could probably do all the moves.. |
| 20:32.54 | Saturos | maybe because my whole mouth hurts like hell (coming drom dentist (is that the word?))... I cant eat anything for the next six hours. grml. |
| 20:33.02 | CBG | ouch |
| 20:33.07 | CBG | yes, it is right word... |
| 20:33.13 | Saturos | at least |
| 20:33.15 | CBG | if you mean the nasty man in white coat with big drill... |
| 20:33.23 | Saturos | exactly |
| 20:33.38 | CBG | and the elves don't cheer you up? |
| 20:33.48 | Saturos | not really |
| 20:33.54 | CBG | :( |
| 20:34.15 | CBG | then I have failed :( |
| 20:35.05 | Saturos | Give me the link tomorrow again. :) |
| 20:35.17 | CBG | :D |
| 20:35.22 | Saturos | Maybe then i am in a better mood for coke-advertising-spots. |
| 20:52.43 | CBG | Hmm... |
| 20:53.02 | CBG | What shall I say to a gaming website that is too cheap to even host the (FREE) games on their own server.. |
| 20:53.09 | CBG | At http://www.goedbeterbest.nl/games/games4/zed/index.html |
| 20:53.22 | CBG | They just link an iframe to the game on MY server. |
| 20:53.26 | CBG | >:( |
| 20:53.38 | CBG | They will get a very nasty email in a few moments, I think! |
| 21:19.10 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 21 20:55 => We be Pirates!!!:4, [TE] The Explorers:2 |
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| 21:47.14 | BZBot | New news from gumatches: Dec 21 21:34 => T.B.O. (the better ones):6, T42 (tea for two):1 |
| 21:53.03 | menotume | WOMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! arrrrrrg |
| 21:53.36 | kierra | the same could be said for men and in spades MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:54.26 | kierra | and certain ones are more guilty than others |
| 21:54.44 | kierra | but |
| 21:54.52 | kierra | i wont mention names...........yet |
| 21:55.33 | kierra | learner, for example |
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| 22:00.06 | CBG | *late |
| 22:00.53 | kierra | lol |
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| 22:47.23 | BZBot | New news from gumatches: Dec 21 22:17 => T.B.O. (the better ones):9, T42 (tea for two):4 || Dec 20 22:19 => T42 (tea for two):7, Kick Ass Squad [KAS]:3 |
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| 23:40.12 | eXtreme | cbg: pong |
| 23:40.28 | eXtreme | uhh he left.. *slaps self* |
| 23:43.19 | learner | kierra, heh |
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| 23:50.06 | sussi | hi |
| 23:50.15 | menotume | whoa |
| 23:50.15 | kierra | ;) learner |
| 23:50.18 | sussi | i want report a match |
| 23:50.19 | menotume | hi sussi |
| 23:50.24 | menotume | me too |
| 23:50.27 | sussi | hi menotume |
| 23:50.32 | menotume | i want to report BAR:10 EK:1 |
| 23:50.38 | kierra | yay |
| 23:50.48 | menotume | but, that wouldn't be fair |
| 23:50.52 | menotume | :P |
| 23:50.53 | kierra | i'll do it, brb |
| 23:51.02 | sussi | tok:5 ek:8 |
| 23:51.03 | menotume | yes, sussi ? |
| 23:51.07 | menotume | ok |
| 23:51.08 | sussi | lol |
| 23:51.22 | kierra | too late |
| 23:51.22 | sussi | but i asked u to match earlier |
| 23:51.29 | kierra | already entered the other |
| 23:51.41 | sussi | we never did! |
| 23:51.49 | kierra | so sorry sus |
| 23:51.58 | menotume | done. |
| 23:52.09 | sussi | grrr |
| 23:52.20 | sussi | your a bad girl ;) |
| 23:52.34 | kierra | nope, I'm a nice girl, I am |
| 23:52.47 | sussi | yep |
| 23:52.55 | kierra | i have it on the best authority....mine |
| 23:53.06 | sussi | did u red miky's last post? |
| 23:54.03 | kierra | let me check |
| 23:54.53 | sussi | position, speed, acceleration, jump |
| 23:55.35 | kierra | yes, i read that |
| 23:56.00 | kierra | maybe, you are talking to meno? |
| 23:56.14 | sussi | thats the explanation |
| 23:56.41 | kierra | ? |
| 23:57.43 | sussi | he says with endless high acceleration u are at 1 point and thereafter at a other place |
| 23:58.10 | sussi | thatswhy Me user cant hit during acceleration |
| 23:58.26 | kierra | ok |
| 23:58.46 | sussi | thats the proof |
| 23:59.11 | sussi | miky did it |
| 23:59.16 | kierra | so micky is an expert in this |
| 23:59.28 | sussi | looks like |
| 23:59.43 | kierra | i'd like to check his credentials |
