irclog2html for #bzleague on 20051208

00:10.06anteaterwhy do u say snick is a jerk?
00:15.02SportChickante is still here?!
00:15.20anteateryes i am :-D
00:15.28anteaterstill working on school
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00:27.53anteateroops
00:27.55anteaterlol
00:28.02SportChickpff
00:56.41brad2901jbot shellshock
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01:22.36orange_awayhi ki
01:23.07kierrahowdy
01:23.20kierrathats how cbg greets me
01:24.15orangereally?
01:24.31kierrayes, its always 'hi ki'
01:25.05kierralol
01:25.15kierrayou are tooo funny
01:25.34kierrai would say dont let the youngsters get to you
01:25.46kierrabut i would have to follow my own advice
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02:16.28GuuNew news from matches: Dec 08 02:16 => MTC:6, Pillbox:3
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04:00.50GuuNew news from matches: Dec 08 03:57 => SCF:8, MTC:3
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14:39.49kierrapimpinella ping
14:40.22Pimpinellakierra: pong
14:40.36kierrahello pimpi
14:40.43SportChickPimpinella: hiya
14:40.51Pimpinellahi girls
14:41.15Pimpinellakierra: whats up?
14:41.30kierrapm
14:52.12kierramenotume ping
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15:30.50TheRedBaron~shellshock
15:31.06TheRedBaronoh my, people are actually playing there!
15:31.20kierrayay!!!!
15:31.33kierranow we need a dub one
15:35.23TheRedBaronbrad2901: are we still on for that gu match? :)
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15:51.17orangeTheRedBaron: people playing there?  Cool :-)
15:52.17TheRedBaronOrange: yea, kinda what you would expect... but I"m happy :)
15:55.14brad2901TheRedBaron: how long?
15:55.26brad2901until the match..
16:00.01TheRedBaroni'm thinking about 3 hrs :)
16:00.14TheRedBaron3vs3 or 4vs4?
16:01.07brad2901depends how many FFs are on
16:01.14brad2901longdon said he would be
16:01.46TheRedBaroni think i could muster the troops for a 4vs4
16:01.52TheRedBaronbut for sure we have a 3vs3
16:01.57TheRedBaronerr. We have 3
16:02.01brad2901(:
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16:31.16tokimi*: ping
16:32.20Baronessit toki!! :-)
16:32.22tokimitrb?
16:32.25tokimibarones!
16:32.33tokimihey there
16:32.35tokimi:-D
16:32.49orangehi tokimi
16:32.53tokimiorange!
16:32.55tokimicoooll
16:32.56Baronesshowdy! :-)
16:33.08tokimiall my wonderfull bz friends are on
16:33.53tokimihows it going ?
16:34.35Baroness~bonk TheRedBaron
16:34.36jbotACTION bonks TheRedBaron over the head
16:34.43tokimi~lart TheRedBaron
16:34.45Baronessits going good now :-)
16:34.50tokimicool
16:36.43tokimii find a large amount of ~lart TheRedBaron leads to a happy lifestyle
16:37.26Baronesshehehe...yup!! :-)
16:37.49tokimiespecially when he cant ~lart back ;)
16:38.02Baronesseven better!! :)
16:38.15tokimihows the house addition?
16:38.27Baronesshard work....
16:38.31Baronessbut its comming...
16:38.40TheRedBarona large apple?
16:38.45tokimiwas it you digging in the ditch with your brothers?
16:38.45TheRedBaronno princess?
16:38.48tokimino pricness
16:38.55TheRedBaronwhat kind of rejected fairy tale is that?
16:39.02tokimidwarfes and an apple
16:39.15Baronessno...my older sister did that :-)
16:39.24tokimiaah
16:39.25Baronessi got out of that one..(yay!)
16:39.27tokimilucky you ;)
16:39.44Baronesswell...only cause the day before i stepped on a nail...
16:39.48tokimieeew
16:40.04Baronessand had to walk with crutches for a week.....(yuks!!)
16:40.08tokimithat bad?
16:40.17tokimihow big a nail?
16:40.28Baronessyea...dad said if i didn't i'd might get infection in the foot...
16:40.34tokimihehehe
16:40.39Baronessnot very bid nail...but i stepped very "hard" on it...
16:40.46tokimithat or tetanus
16:40.51tokimihmmm
16:40.52Baronessdad had to pry the board off my foot....
16:40.55tokimihow deep
16:41.05Baronessalmost all the way through
16:41.17Baronessbarely missed the bone...
16:41.23Baronessoh yes...it hurts!
16:41.24tokimisounds like fun
16:41.36tokimibut hey
16:41.40tokimiyou got out of work ;)
16:41.44TheRedBarondumpster diving?
16:41.46Baronessvery true :)
16:41.52tokimiTheRedBaron: yup
16:41.59tokimiBaroness: see?? was worth it
16:42.14tokimiTheRedBaron: was looking for wood scraps to build stuff out of
16:42.17Baronessheheh...i
16:42.25tokimi(was a construction dumpster)
16:42.46tokimiTheRedBaron: never been dumpster diving?
16:43.06tokimi~slap TheRedBaron
16:43.07jbotACTION slaps TheRedBaron, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
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16:43.13tokimier
16:43.16tokimi~aol TheRedBaron
16:43.18jbotACTION hits TheRedBaron with a free America Online CD until he dies
16:44.10TheRedBarontokimi: i've been dumpster diving :)
16:44.12TheRedBaronbut i usually don't admit to it :-D
16:44.27tokimilmao
16:44.33tokimiwhat are you afraid of ;)
16:46.16tokimiuh huh
16:46.25TheRedBaronwell, within reason of course ;)
16:46.28tokimiyou mum must not approve
16:47.40tokimiok, gotta run to class
16:47.40tokimisee you all later
16:47.43Baroness<PROTECTED>
16:47.48tokimisee yah
16:47.57Baronessenjoy the class :-P
16:52.10TheRedBarondub admins: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6129&highlight=
16:58.49eXtreme~shellshock
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17:01.37eXtremehi CBG
17:01.42CBGhey eXtreme
17:01.59CBGhey Birdie
17:02.00TheRedBaron~lart birdie
17:02.06Birdieaww its closed
17:02.08CBGThe snick-carnage topic is locked.
17:02.11CBGja :P
17:02.23CBGand hey TheRedBaron too.
17:02.24TheRedBaronit wasn't going anywhere
17:02.36CBGThese things never do. I should know.
17:02.36TheRedBaronbirdie: interesting admin topic going on.
17:02.44Birdielet me first read this..
17:02.47TheRedBaronhey ho cbg
17:02.51Birdiei might open and reply though and close again
17:03.00Birdiehe attacked me, i want to defend myself
17:03.12CBGYay for Birdie :D
17:03.14BirdieIf that is not good enough for
17:03.14Birdieyou, Birdie, and you want to further punish me to make yourself feel better,
17:03.14Birdiethen goodbye for good. You will not see me again. Btw, I asked to discuss this
17:03.14Birdiewith you but you refused to do so. Evidently it is easier for you to ban people
17:03.14Birdiethan talk things through. Hail the new draxxus!
17:03.14TheRedBaronai ai ai... thats where the fight keeps going :(
17:03.45TheRedBaronfor me, I'll just take the blow, and stand.
17:04.46TheRedBaron~lart cbg
17:04.59eXtremewoot, AOL
17:05.08CBGDamn AOL...
17:05.15BirdieBirdie, who banned me, uses offensive language himself. Indeed, he has,
17:05.15Birdieon more than one occasion, altered the spelling to get the word past the bad
17:05.15Birdielanguage filter. E.g.,
17:05.16eXtreme:D
17:05.17Birdie????????????????
17:05.25Birdiehow LONG is it ago i used any offensive word?
17:05.42CBGBirdie: i have NEVER seen you swear on ANY server.
17:05.51eXtremeBirdie: "sux"
17:05.53eXtreme:)
17:05.56Birdiepff
17:06.03TheRedBaron<PROTECTED>
17:06.05CBGSnick is just one of those people who thinks the best form of defence is attack.
17:06.08eXtremethat's probably what hea meanet
17:06.11eXtrememeant*
17:06.14eXtremehe*
17:06.16CBGWhen ever he is backed into a corner he lashes out at anyone who is near.
17:06.31eXtremeCBG: no, only people who attack him.
17:06.46eXtremehe has NEVER said anything bad to me
17:06.52CBGeXtreme, so?
17:07.01CBGThat doesn't make my statement invalid.
17:07.04CBGI only wish the ban was for life.
17:07.10CBGBut, thats just me. :)
17:07.18eXtremehe can easily evade the ban
17:07.18CBGSadistic ole me... >:)
17:07.25CBGPerhaps.
17:07.36eXtremeas can anyone with computer knowledge (:
17:07.57TheRedBaronmy opinion is: Snick receives alot of undeserved attacks...
17:08.07eXtremeyes, he does
17:08.13CBGHmm, I disagree.
17:08.24TheRedBaronand therefore lashes out in a case like the present one
17:08.39CBGNot from me atleast, and I don't often see him attacked.
17:09.17TheRedBaronpeople accusing him of cheating
17:09.23TheRedBaroncomplaining about his teamplay...
17:09.25eXtremejust about to say that
17:09.26TheRedBaronhis playing style
17:09.27orangesnick doesn't strike me as the most polite person playing bzflag
17:09.28eXtremeyup
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17:09.34orangebut I don't know him extremely well
17:09.42CBGorange, I would say so.
17:09.55TheRedBaronOrange: no he doesn't, but that still doesnt' merit ungrounded accusations against him
17:10.00CBGHe is the single rudest person I have met on bzflag, in fact,
17:10.00orangehe always struck me as a bit arrogant, but again, I don't know him that well
17:10.12orangeno, never merits ungrounded accusations... nothing merits that
17:10.26orangeI'm just musing
17:10.43CBGI don't need to, I've been on the ugly end of snick more than once.
17:11.28CBGhe's green, darnit!
17:12.56eXtreme~aol cbg
17:12.58jbotACTION hits cbg with a free America Online CD until he dies
17:13.03CBGAgain?
17:13.06eXtremesure
17:13.12CBGI don't have unlimited lives, guys...
17:13.22eXtreme~kill cbg
17:13.24jbotACTION shoots a ionized  neutrino gun at cbg
17:13.29CBG*aigh*
17:13.32CBG*sigh**
17:13.33eXtremesigh*
17:13.36CBG:P
17:13.36eXtreme=P
17:13.40CBGheh
17:13.40ToughShooter~spank CBG
17:13.42jbotACTION bends CBG over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on CBG's pasty white buttocks.
17:13.45eXtremeeew
17:13.46CBGOoh, naughty. :)
17:13.48bz9281before you go cbg...
17:13.55CBGbz9281: ?
17:13.57eXtremewho are you bz9281 ?
17:14.11bz9281nice to know that you can recycle
17:14.19bz9281good for the environment
17:14.22CBG:/
17:14.33eXtremeim bored, going home
17:14.38Mr_Molezuhoh should watch what ur saying cbg :)
17:14.40bz9281remember: i accused you of being the rudest person
17:14.46bz9281i'm snick, btw
17:14.55eXtremeshould cya later TheRedBaron unless my l33t AOL connection doesn't work :)
17:15.01CBGbz9281: I don't recall that, but whatever.
17:15.08eXtremeer, hi snick :p
17:15.10eXtremebbl
17:15.12TheRedBaronextreme: yay!
17:15.29bz9281do you remember when i was in a discussion and you couldn't help but try to stir up trouble, cbg?
17:15.45CBGCan anyone tell me how to silence on IRC?
17:15.52TheRedBaronay ay ay!
17:15.58bz9281if i told you to get lost, you deserved. you're a trouble causer
17:16.02eXtremecbg: /quit
17:16.08CBGhah hah, eXtreme
17:16.11bz9281.nearly every match you play ends in argument
17:16.16eXtremenow I'm *really* gone
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17:16.23Mr_Molezaol rulez btw
17:16.24Mr_Molezncu :)
17:16.28eXtremeMr_Molez: yes
17:16.34eXtremestp[ ta;ling to me!
17:16.37TheRedBaron~lart the moley
17:16.39bz9281cbg is another who can take being disagreed with
17:16.47Mr_Molezaww
17:16.54TheRedBaron~bad AOL
17:16.56jbotBad AOL, bad! No cookie for you!
17:17.49TheRedBaronlets hope the volkswagen get me home today :)
17:17.58bz9281i reallyl don
17:18.22TheRedBaronbz9281: I don't understand it... How did you turn everyone against you?
17:18.29Mr_Molezeww volkswagen,, aint that a family car ?
17:18.29bz9281not everyone
17:18.48bz9281when i was at dub last night there were 8 or 9 people there including qd
17:18.50TheRedBaronMr_molez: will its german for "The people's car"
17:18.55Mr_Molezprobably cuz every 1 thinks carn is the bees knees
17:18.55TheRedBaron*well
17:18.55bz9281not one of them agree with him
17:19.08TheRedBaronhim being?
17:19.12bz9281qd
17:19.17TheRedBaronoh.
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17:19.45bz9281but... they're not going to change their minds because that would involve admitting they messed up
17:20.17Mr_Molezgerman,, i thought voltswagen was from 1 of the Norwegian countries ??
17:20.32TheRedBaronbz9281: there's the whole problem...
17:20.54TheRedBaronand if you permit me to say it respectfully: its an issue on both sides. theirs and yours
17:21.25bz9281but you know that week-long bans are quite rare for gu league players and yet that sort of argument goes on daily
17:21.51bz9281every single day someone is dissing someone else
17:22.23bz9281cbg was doing it just before carny appeard
17:22.38TheRedBaronI cannot say or pass judgement or the merits on the ban... I wasn't there. Nor am I completely familliar with the whole issue
17:22.55bz9281and why didn't i get a warning?
17:23.01TheRedBaronI wasn't there...
17:23.16TheRedBaronbz9281: those are questions I cannot answer. :(
17:23.25bz9281qd said there was a group discussion about this
17:23.53bz9281but every admin i've spoken to, apart from qd and birdie seems not to know very much about all this
17:23.55TheRedBaronI wasn't involved, but from the looks at the admin board, there was a discussion
17:24.19bz9281how could they have reached a collective decision without the facts?
17:24.23TheRedBaronnot every admin can be present for every situation.
17:24.33orangedoesn't gu have logs available?
17:24.36TheRedBarona collective decision was reached based on the admins who were there.
17:25.07bz9281i'm banned for a reason i do not know (precisely), i don't even know who was involved in banning me. this is like criminals are treated in a totalitarian state
17:25.56bz9281one of the reasons i was banned for was "discussion"
17:26.05bz9281how can you ban someone for discussion?
17:26.13bz9281ridiculous
17:26.22Birdieyou are not banned for a discussion
17:26.27Birdieread my reply
17:26.29Birdiei did now
17:26.33bz9281that's what it said when i logged on
17:26.35Birdiewas on school all day and couldnt see it
17:26.45bz9281that's the ban message you entered
17:26.51bz9281it's changed now
17:27.06Birdiethe reason was one in a rush, was planning to change it later
17:27.15Birdiecause its hard to explain in few words
17:27.23bz9281you know, birdie, you could have just talked this over with me
17:27.37bz9281you could have said, one more rude word and i'll ban you
17:27.42bz9281and i would have shut up
17:28.02bz9281i was ready to apologize too
17:28.10orangeI don't understand why people need to be threatened with bans in order to be polite and nice
17:28.26orangeit makes no sense to me
17:28.26Birdiewell didnt i asked nicely on dub to stop ,yet you and carnage continued (another server i know), some one was very offended by what you and carnage said IN PUBLIC, and asked to do something about it
17:28.40Birdie(what you said on gu)
17:28.46bz9281i didn't see anything of the sort
17:28.58bz9281but most of those people actually followed us over there
17:29.38Birdielook i dont want to get into a fight with all this
17:29.40bz9281they clearly wanted to see how it would develop
17:29.48Birdieone week is not the end of the world
17:29.55Birdiethink about why your banned, and react mature on it
17:29.57bz9281i'm not going back
17:30.03Birdiethats your desision
17:30.06Birdiedesicion *
17:30.11Mr_Molez*decision
17:30.16Birdieright..
17:30.17bz9281and you're a jerk and you can fuck off. how's that? ban me for life
17:30.30Birdie...
17:30.36orangewow, that's not making your point very well, snick
17:30.37bz9281if you can deal with someone disagreeing with you, that's pathetic
17:30.43Birdieits for things like this you got banned
17:30.46bz9281*can't
17:31.11bz9281you just think because you're an admin i must accept everything you say. it's not going to happen
17:31.21orangeof course, nobody should take action based on this because there's no way to really know this is snick
17:31.36bz9281i can prove it
17:31.52bz9281i know you've been badmouthing me behind my back birdie
17:32.08bz9281if you had any courage you would have told me directly
17:32.16Birdiek
17:32.36Birdielike i said, i dont want to get into a fight
17:32.36orangeFor your own good, perhaps you should just leave now, snick
17:32.43bz9281you just ban like draxxus because you are too feeble to accept another point of view
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17:32.58Birdiethats your idea
17:33.35orangebut snick, if you behaved like this around me, I'd have banned you too, sorry, but I would
17:33.37kierralets behave
17:33.42bz9281if a ban was right, you could have banned any number of people,  but you didn't
17:33.48Birdieyou and carnage
17:33.50Birdiewich was enough
17:34.02bz9281you banned me because i disagreed with you before
17:34.06Birdieno i didnt
17:34.11Birdieagain thats what YOU think
17:34.34bz9281on the same day before the argument with carny you were saying you didn't like my attitude
17:34.44Birdiefine, and?
17:35.02Birdiei dont base my bans on that
17:35.04bz9281your view is clearly tainted
17:35.19Birdieif i would be subjective, nto every admin on gu would agree with the ban
17:35.20TheRedBaronbz9281: everyone has a bias.
17:35.24orangeBirdie: how many other admins have reviewed this?
17:35.30Birdiehmm
17:35.34Birdielet me count
17:35.44bz9281at dub last night, out of 8 or 9 people nobody agree with qd about the ban
17:35.49Birdie6 so far
17:35.57orangesnick, don't make it about Birdie if 6 other people have agreed, OK?
17:36.00orangeyou're making it personal
17:36.08orangeand it sounds like it quite clearly is not
17:36.15orangeif you don't like the gu policy then you don't play there
17:36.16bz9281my 8 or 9 beats his 6
17:36.18orangethat's always a choice
17:36.28orangeno it doesn't snick, because his are the gu admins, and that's the way it is in bzflag
17:36.30Birdiethose 9 arent admins, those 6 are
17:36.34Birdiethose 6 decide, those 9 dont
17:36.36bz9281gods, you mean?
17:36.45orangeno, snick, the people who the person PAYING for the server trusts
17:36.49bz9281oh, excuse me for thinking they are not omniscient
17:36.49orangeit's that simple
17:37.11Birdielook, lets stop this, if you disagree, go complain to the owner
17:37.13bz9281every day i have been abused, insulted and accused of cheating
17:37.25bz9281and when i've pointed this out to admins they've done zilch
17:37.33orangethey are not omniscient, nor have I heard anyone claim they are gods, but this is how bzflag is run.  It isn't perfect, but it is how it is.
17:37.39TheRedBaronbz9281: thats a different issue, I'm doing something about it
17:37.42bz9281so excuse me for taking my own action when i'm insulted
17:37.44TheRedBaronat least trying
17:38.10bz9281when i said i was being insulted, longdon wouldn't lift a finger to stop it
17:38.14TheRedBaron<TheRedBaron>  no he doesn't, but that still doesnt' merit ungrounded accusations against him
17:38.30bz9281people have been spreading rumours about cheating
17:38.38orangesnick, your behavior today wouldn't want to make me defend you, either
17:38.44bz9281matrixe, never, trac, saturos and others
17:39.05Birdiethis is starting to get out of line so lets stop this..
17:39.09Birdieplease?
17:39.14TheRedBaronhttp://www.gamesunited.de/ib/index.php?showtopic=11800&view=findpost&p=260685
17:39.18bz9281let's stop it because you can't handle agrument
17:39.37orangesnick, your argument is not with Birdie if he was supported by other admins
17:39.38bz9281i have already agree to apologize and behave well in futre
17:39.38Birdiek if you think that
17:39.41orangetake the argument where it belongs
17:39.51bz9281is that not good enough?
17:39.53orangein private, to the server owner, who for all practical purposes IS god of gu
17:40.01Birdieyou attack me for a desicion several people did together
17:40.13Birdiesounds really mature to me..
17:40.18Birdieits ONLY one week
17:40.28Birdiethink about it, and react on a good way after
17:40.30bz9281it's the principal that counts
17:40.35bz9281not the length of time
17:40.47bz9281it's punishment for punishments sake
17:41.12bz9281why not try it? i apologize, agree to always behave well and you ban me for life if i don't?
17:41.25bz9281is that not a good deal?
17:41.44Birdieyou got a week ban, and i wont lift it, certainly not after your behavour now
17:42.07TheRedBaron~shellshock
17:42.10bz9281pathetic
17:42.14Birdiek
17:42.19bz9281you're just stubborn
17:42.28orangesnick, take it to the server owner if you disagree with the admins' decision
17:42.28bz9281you don't listen to  reason
17:42.37TheRedBaroni've got to run, cya guys later. pray the vw gets me home, its raining outside :)
17:42.43Birdielets stop this..if you dont like it, complain to gsl
17:42.52orangeif the server owner feels the admins acted inappropriately, I'm sure he/she will take appropriate action as he/she sees it
17:42.54Birdieand stop attackign me
17:43.01Mr_MolezTheRedBaron: sure but my wishing of luck always turns into a curse :) hehe later
17:43.06bz9281ah, poor thing
17:43.06Birdiecu trb:)
17:43.08orangecu trb
17:43.26Birdiethis discussion is over for me
17:43.28orangesnick, I don't think this is helping your case at all.  Let's end it now, OK?
17:43.29TheRedBaronMr_molez: oh joy, i feel real confident....
17:43.33Mr_MolezTheRedBaron: so ill make sure to wish u lots of luck :)
17:43.38bz9281i'm attacked daily, i'm living with illness and i'm twice the man you are
17:43.40TheRedBarongah!
17:43.45TheRedBaron~lart Mr_molez
17:44.10bz9281that's it. i'm never going back to gu
17:44.15TheRedBaronwee enjoy that moley :)
17:44.22Mr_Molezjudas
17:44.27Mr_Molez:P
17:44.39kierra~dub
17:45.05kierra~tlz5154
18:05.34kierrayay
18:05.38kierraoops
18:05.51Baronesslol
18:07.16kierra~wake unotmeu
18:07.18jbotunotmeu: GOOD MORNING!!!
18:07.26orangeunlikely... I think he went to bed at 7am today
18:07.36kierraouch
18:07.45kierrahey, thats 6 hr
18:07.48kierragood enough
18:07.57kierraexcept for old ppl
18:08.02Birdie6hours of sleep..what a life
18:08.11kierraoh my
18:08.33kierralife on bz has taken a turn for the worse, it would seem
18:08.54kierrakinda like 'life in the gutter'.....talk about soap operas
18:09.15orangeyes, all drama, no substance
18:09.24Birdieits mostly the talking that is being the reason of sleeping few
18:09.35kierra?
18:09.45Birdiefor me
18:09.49Birdienot the game:)
18:12.42kierraummm, chocolate
18:12.59kierrarb2 brought me home chocolate covered pretzels
18:13.15kierramilk chocolat
18:15.39Baronessthey got home in one piece?!?!
18:18.54kierrayep
18:18.57kierra~dub
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18:32.49Mr_Molezbleh
18:33.51Mr_Molezyup that's right, bleh
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18:37.57Mr_Molezcatayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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19:15.14tokimihello
19:16.26Baronessits toki!! :)
19:16.26Birdiehey toki
19:16.26Baronesshow was the class??
19:16.48tokimiboreing
19:16.51Birdietoki: what do you have that i dont?
19:17.00tokimiumm, class
19:17.01tokimiand
19:17.02Baronessoooh...
19:17.05Birdielol
19:17.12tokimismarts, and good looks, and such
19:17.20Baronesslol!
19:17.21tokimi;)
19:17.28tokimiwhy do you ask?
19:17.30Birdiehey..no need to get nasty:p
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19:17.37Birdiegood looks?hmmm..:)
19:17.43tokimi:-D
19:18.13tokimii have the whole mad scientist-super geek look going... all the girls love it ;)_
19:18.18Baronesslol
19:18.25Birdieare you teacher?
19:18.29tokimiTA
19:18.34Birdieow
19:18.40Birdiei'm still student:(
19:18.43Birdiedoubt i want you as teacher:p
19:18.43tokimi:-D
19:18.46tokiminope
19:18.54Birdiereally?
19:19.03tokimiyup
19:19.07Birdiemay they talk during class or you beat with your fist on the table?
19:19.11tokimiBaroness: whats up =]
19:19.19Baronesswork...
19:19.22tokimiaua
19:19.25Baronessand hurting myself again....
19:19.26tokimilol
19:19.28tokimi!!
19:19.30Guutokimi: Guu des whakaremasen!
19:19.47tokimiBaroness: eh?
19:19.51tokimiBirdie: umm, nah
19:20.00Baronessyeah...miscalculated the wall...and banged my fingers.. :-p
19:20.03tokimiBirdie: ah just give out 50% averages on my tests
19:20.06tokimiBaroness: yow
19:20.31Baronessyeah...they are all red now.. :-/
19:20.32CBGis snick about?
19:20.50tokimi:\
19:20.55tokimi:-/
19:20.57Birdiemiscalculated lol
19:21.02tokimipoor Baroness
19:21.06Birdie50% average isnt much:(
19:21.14tokimiyeah....
19:21.19Birdiewhy poor?:)
19:21.19tokimiwell, it is physics
19:21.33tokimieasy now cbg
19:21.42CBGtokimi: what?
19:22.02SaturosHey guys. :)
19:22.07CBGhey Saturos!
19:22.14brad2901jbot seen NTH
19:22.16jbotnth <n=NTH@host86-137-109-124.range86-137.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzleague, 20d 23h 11m 12s ago, saying: 'u there eXtreme'.
19:22.20tokimiCBG: well, snick is a friend of mine......
19:22.45CBGtokimi: you have a strange choice in friends, but you are entitled to think what you like of him.
19:22.52CBGJust as I am entitled to think what I like of him.
19:22.55tokimiyup
19:23.05tokimiah just dont like seeing poor stuff said about him :)
19:23.09CBGand I think he is a very rude person and I hope he is not here.
19:23.11tokimihey sat
19:23.16tokimiwhat ever
19:24.43tokimity birdie...
19:24.56tokimihey, is there a way i can get those logs?? i want to see what went on
19:25.01CBG~logs
19:25.02jbotlogs is probably http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/,  or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz
19:25.11Birdiethe logs from today on irc arent there
19:25.18Birdieyou will have to wait till tomorrow
19:25.24Birdielogs from server are not public
19:25.24CBGThey will be in maybe 12 hours?
19:25.29tokimino, the gu logs from yest
19:25.30Birdiemight be
19:25.37CBGoh, no then, tokimi
19:25.44Birdieonly server owner has them
19:25.44CBGnot 5158 and 5159
19:25.47CBGja
19:26.08Saturossince sl isnt that active I doubt that we will see them soon... :|
19:26.12Saturos*gsl
19:26.20CBGYup.
19:26.21Birdieya i know
19:26.25tokimikk
19:26.49CBGhttp://www.gamesunited.de/ib/index.php?showtopic=11800&st=30 He seems to have a problem with longdon too now.
19:27.03CBGThough longdon has not even spoken about the issue and had nothing to do with the ban.
19:27.35SaturosLongDon is an admin and admins are evil... so LongDon is evil too.
19:27.48SaturosSymmetry. ;)
19:27.54CBGhah!!!
19:27.57CBGOh, satu, I love you!
19:28.17Saturos:)
19:28.51Baronessbtw- to explaim my "miscalculation" i was carrying something...and my hand slip...and of course it had to "hit the wall".... :-P
19:29.21Birdielol
19:29.24tokimiBaroness: man!  sounds like my sister
19:29.25Birdiewas it that heavy?
19:29.34Baronessyes!!
19:29.34Birdiebaroness: that sounds like...baroness:)
19:29.55Baronesshmph!
19:30.06tokimi:-D
19:30.12tokiminothing but love for our barons ;)
19:30.19Birdielol
19:30.24Birdiewe like them so much
19:31.35Baronesshhehe...
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19:45.48GuuNew news from matches: Dec 08 19:40 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:10, Bz Incorporated:1
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19:57.17brad2901jbot shellshock
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20:22.15GuuNew news from gumatches: Dec 08 20:19 => Insane Crazy Funsters:5, Anvil:1
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21:59.41GuuNew news from matches: Dec 08 21:55 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:9, MTC:0
22:04.47GuuNew news from matches: Dec 08 22:00 => Bz Incorporated:5, [TE] The Explorers:5
22:06.02GuuNew news from gumatches: Dec 08 22:02 => Insane Crazy Funsters:7, [ForestForce]:0
22:26.23Birdie~blame baroness for being cool
22:26.24jbotACTION blames brad2901 and perhaps baroness for being cool and the end of the Internet as we know it
22:26.37Birdielol what has brad to do with this
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22:41.42Mr_Mole1Pimpinella: ping
22:41.43SC-hawaiicatay: ping
22:41.51Mr_Mole1heh
22:41.55SC-hawaiiheh
22:42.07SC-hawaiihiya molez
22:42.15Mr_Mole1omg weird echo that changes a few words
22:42.19Mr_Mole1heya :P
22:42.21SC-hawaiihehe
22:42.25Mr_Mole1aint u suppose to be relaxing ?
22:42.40SC-hawaiiI'm waiting 4 my bags
22:42.53Mr_Mole1any admin ping
22:43.02Mr_Mole1ohh
22:43.07SC-hawaiiwhat's wrong?
22:43.22SC-hawaiiI see 1 bag :)
22:43.29Mr_Mole1ohh yay
22:43.57SC-hawaiisomething wrong on dub?
22:44.07Mr_Mole1nah
22:44.15Mr_Mole1i just want to get some 1 banned from the league
22:44.36Mr_Mole1seems to be the theme of the week people getting banned :P
22:44.41SC-hawaiiheh...who?
22:44.51Mr_Mole1ill wait till an admin is here
22:44.55SC-hawaii(& why?)
22:45.06Mr_Mole1cuz
22:45.08Mr_Mole1im evil
22:45.35Mr_Mole1menotume: ping
22:46.04SC-hawaiiwell, that' nothing new, but never seen u ask for a ban b4 :)
22:46.25Mr_Mole1well, ive become alot more evil
22:46.41Mr_Mole1:P
22:46.44SC-hawaiiheh
22:46.55SC-hawaii~dub
22:46.57Mr_Mole1i dont really care
22:47.11Mr_Mole1but pimpi threatened to ban people who dont respect the rules, so i wanna see him do it
22:47.48Mr_Mole1hehehehehehe
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22:50.48Mr_Mole1ping aling ling
23:00.23GuuNew news from gumatches: Dec 08 22:55 => T42 (tea for two):12, [ForestForce]:0
23:00.35brad2901w00t
23:04.53PimpinellaMr_Molez: here
23:04.58Mr_Molezyay
23:05.00Mr_Molezok
23:05.12Pimpinellaso whatsup :)
23:05.19Mr_Molezu said people could be banned if some 1 from a team called another team cheaters ?
23:06.02Pimpinellasure, tell me who accused you and when
23:06.08Mr_Molezwell the team 1 shot 2 kills quit the league because team members benji13 and trac from exozytose called them cheaters
23:06.11Mr_Molezoh not me
23:06.18Mr_Molezlol i couldnt care if some 1 called me a cheater
23:06.47Mr_Molezbtw
23:06.54Mr_Molezthis was a few days after ur post on the league about it
23:06.55Mr_Molez:)
23:07.05Mr_Molezhappened sunday :P
23:07.20Pimpinellahmm, on 59997?
23:07.27Pimpinellagu match server?
23:08.04Mr_Molezdub 59999
23:08.13Mr_Moleznah ducati match it was
23:08.59Pimpinella2nd time i hear bad news about trac today...
23:09.06Mr_Molezhehehhe
23:09.17Mr_Molezso is something going to be done ?
23:09.53Pimpinellai'll review the case and yes, probably something will be done
23:09.59Mr_Molezok
23:10.05Mr_Molezthe people that got called cheaters were
23:10.10Mr_Molezwait did i tell u already
23:10.31Mr_Moleznah dont think i did... james4 and soccerfreak
23:11.06brad2901just out of interest.. who won?
23:11.15Mr_Molezlol exozytose
23:11.19brad2901...
23:11.28brad2901yet they still call them cheaters
23:11.35Pimpinellaok, i know none of them, but i have some extra code in my servers, i have a good chance to detect cheating
23:11.41Mr_Molezlooks like it lol
23:11.50brad2901i know all of them
23:11.51brad2901they don't cheat
23:12.25Pimpinellai actually don't know any of them
23:12.34Pimpinellamet them maybe
23:12.57Pimpinellabenji13 and soccerfreak sound familiar, trac too
23:13.23Mr_Molezyeh i know them all except trac
23:13.35Mr_Molezsaw trac earlier complaining about lag on tlz, thats about it
23:18.58GuuNew news from matches: Dec 08 23:18 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:6, Bz Incorporated:4
23:28.33brad2901jbot aol Mr_Molez
23:28.34jbotACTION hits Mr_Molez with a free America Online CD until he dies
23:28.40Mr_Molezaww
23:28.48brad2901jbot aol++
23:30.13Mr_Molezi think im gona go to sleep
23:30.17Mr_Moleznight all :P
23:30.29Pimpinellanite molez
23:30.40brad2901night Mr_Molez
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23:38.37TheRedBaron~shellshock
23:38.55TheRedBaronoh my, still up. I haven't broken anything yet...
23:39.18brad2901:)
23:39.24TheRedBaron:)
23:41.59TheRedBaronhmm, do admins have /reload privs?
23:43.57menotumedid you give it to them ?
23:44.06menotumeadmins are all - some stuff, iirc
23:44.10menotumeall (minus) some stuff
23:45.30menotume~shellshock
23:47.06TheRedBaronalright, who is going to fess up to that callsign..
23:47.09TheRedBaron"Its broke"
23:47.20menotumehmmm
23:47.31TheRedBaronmenotume: i do no see where I took that priv away from them :)
23:47.34TheRedBaron*not
23:48.35TheRedBaronthey cannot shutdownserver, removepemrs, set perms, or /set
23:48.43menotumeuse you dmin powers to find out
23:48.43menotumek, hold on
23:48.55menotumeright
23:49.13menotumei don't think you want setperms / removeperms
23:49.21menotumeusing phpbbgroups, right ?
23:49.37TheRedBaronyes
23:49.43TheRedBaroneh?
23:50.02brad2901global groups.. on the bzbb
23:50.07TheRedBaronI have it so admins cannot setperms/removeperms
23:50.56menotumeright
23:51.30menotumelooks like the CAN reload
23:51.30menotumeuh oh, what is nohup.out ?
23:51.43wizartlol
23:51.58menotumeis someone hupping ?
23:52.00wizartif someone starts a program with nohup program
23:52.27wizartthen the thread doesn't hang up when the terminal or parent process is closed.
23:52.47menotumejust disables hup signals ?
23:52.56menotumeah
23:53.06wizartthe output of the programs started with nohup is written to nohup.log unless it's redirected explicitly
23:53.15menotumegotya
23:53.18TheRedBaron~lart brad290
23:53.25wizartyes. disables hup -> nohup
23:53.35wizartunix can be very clear sometimes
23:53.46TheRedBaronwizart: i found windows to be more clear :)
23:53.55menotumewe should be using the startup script to start
23:54.02menotumeoh, nohup the startup script ?
23:54.03menotumeheh
23:54.15TheRedBaronnohup ./bzfsmanager necromancer
23:54.19menotumeya
23:54.22TheRedBaronthats how I initially started it
23:54.23wizartTheRedBaron, I found myself having a hard time to explain someone on windows how to partition a disk.
23:54.35menotumesame as putting the '&' at the end, remember ?
23:54.37menotume:)
23:54.45TheRedBaronorange made me shut it down, and start up a screen and run it with ./bzfsmanager necromancer
23:54.55TheRedBaronand currently, that is how its running  :)
23:54.59menotumek
23:55.09wizartmenotume, no. the & doesn't prevent the SIGHUP
23:55.15menotumepeople and their toys :(
23:55.30menotumewizart: sure it does, it disconnects the terminal
23:55.39wizartif you close a terminal with jobs started with & the jobs will be terminated
23:55.53brad2901yup
23:55.57menotumenope
23:56.03wizartbut the parent process will bethe terminal
23:56.06menotumedidn't for me
23:56.13brad2901does for me :S
23:56.22wizartwith nohup the parent process should be process 1 I think
23:56.43wizartok. I forgot to mention that & should be used when you play with nohup
23:57.01menotumeheh
23:57.09wizartbut I will try a little without
23:57.36wizartok the & is not important
23:57.38wizarttry this:
23:57.42wizartopen a terminal
23:57.52TheRedBaronegads, more instructions... :)
23:57.53wizartstart nohup sleep 21513
23:58.07wizartthen close the terminal forcefully
23:58.15wizartget a process list with ps -ef
23:58.23menotumeomg
23:58.32wizartthe sleep mis still there
23:58.49wizartso the & is not important
23:58.51menotume'./bzfsmanager necromancer &' worked fine for me, and i exited ssh, yes
23:58.58wizartthe & is just for terminal job control
23:59.04TheRedBaronyup worked fine for me too.
23:59.09menotumeno !
23:59.23menotumeit forks the process
23:59.30menotumeputs it in 'the background'
23:59.39menotumedetached from treminal
23:59.57wizartI thought the shell would always for the started process?

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