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| 14:37.11 | ftpd | Hi. |
| 14:37.21 | ftpd | Is there .deb for 2.4.18 server-only somewhere? |
| 14:37.49 | ftpd | Currently in ubuntu 18.04 there is just Version: 2.4.12-1. |
| 14:38.55 | blast007 | 2.4.12 would have been the version available at the time that Ubuntu pulled in packages for 18.04 |
| 14:39.31 | blast007 | either build from source or upgrade to a newer Ubuntu |
| 14:40.05 | ftpd | I can't upgrade now, it's a shared server, so I'm waiting for 20.04 LTS ;-) |
| 14:40.17 | blast007 | it's easy enough to build it from source |
| 14:40.20 | ftpd | Ok, let me grab sources then. |
| 14:40.37 | blast007 | you can even install it to your home directory if you set a prefix via configure |
| 14:40.48 | blast007 | (though you'd still need to have the necessary dependencies installed) |
| 14:41.55 | blast007 | apt-get install automake autoconf g++ libtool make libc-ares-dev libcurl3-dev zlib1g-dev libglm-dev |
| 14:42.09 | blast007 | plus libncurses-dev if you want the fancy bzadmin |
| 14:42.19 | ftpd | And is there a way to build only server? |
| 14:42.41 | ftpd | I can see now, that configure fails because of no zlib package, and I don't want zlib1g-dev on server ;-) |
| 14:42.48 | ftpd | And all of other graphics stuff. |
| 14:43.00 | blast007 | why don't you want zlib? |
| 14:43.17 | blast007 | zlib is compression, not graphics |
| 14:43.26 | ftpd | Oh. So, my bad. |
| 14:43.55 | blast007 | ./autogen.sh && ./configure --disable-client && make |
| 14:44.42 | blast007 | optionally adding this to configure if you want 'make install' to install to your home directory: --prefix=$HOME\bzbuild |
| 14:44.50 | blast007 | (or put whatever you want there) |
| 14:45.24 | ftpd | Sure, I know how to use --prefix in configure scripts ;-) |
| 14:46.50 | blast007 | k |
| 15:02.46 | ftpd | blast007: Thanks for your help, I have my server up&running. |
| 15:03.28 | ftpd | Man, I haven't played bzflag in years! Like 10 years ;-) |
| 15:04.59 | blast007 | :) |
| 15:05.45 | blast007 | I need to get back to working on the 2.4.20 release... |
| 15:11.02 | ftpd | Thanks, time for some fun! |
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| 23:30.46 | Zehra | Since we will be moving towards official documentation, will we see some maintenance/cleanup done in the forums in the future? |
| 23:34.29 | blast007 | are you talking about some of the stickied threads? |
| 23:40.10 | Zehra | Yes, as well as possibly the slight cleanup of some threads within some of the sub forums. |
| 23:41.11 | Zehra | (For instance, a few threads in "map releases", not containing a map or being unrelated.) |
| 23:42.48 | blast007 | how would that be related towards official documentation? |
| 23:44.19 | Zehra | It's not. At least not directly related or connected... |
| 23:45.08 | Zehra | But mostly since the way the data is sorted/provided is a bit "difficult", I sort of envision it being much better sorted/organized. |
| 23:45.46 | Zehra | Thus it becomes official documentation->forums->question on IRC or forums. |
| 23:46.21 | blast007 | I'm unclear what you mean. |
| 23:47.45 | Zehra | Looking over much of the questions posted on the forums within the recent year or two, a lot end up happening quite "frequently" or rather occur time and time again, seemingly even by long term members. |
| 23:48.21 | Zehra | Due to this, it appears that the information could be much better sorted and organized, thus increasing efficiency. |
| 23:49.28 | Zehra | But a lot of it simply would "not" belong in official documentation, but much rather in an FAQ type of document/article. |
| 23:49.54 | blast007 | we could nicely document everything, and people would still ask questions that the documentation answers. 'Tis a law of the universe. :) |
| 23:51.04 | blast007 | I'm not going to worry too much about the forum stuff until a lot later. Bigger priorities. |
| 23:51.47 | Zehra | Okay, sounds good. |
| 23:54.08 | blast007 | I don't know if we'll always be using phpBB, for instance, so I might end up cleaning up the forums by just mostly starting over. :) |
| 23:54.16 | blast007 | but that's still a ways off |