| 00:00.43 | blast007 | that works if we never want to be packaged for linux distributions |
| 00:00.54 | macsforme | linux distro pa... yeah :P |
| 00:01.31 | macsforme | that would be the only significant barrier I can think of at the moment, though... and we've talked about trying the snap approach |
| 00:02.00 | blast007 | for perspective.. I think that's how I found the game originally. I believe it was packaged for Mandrake 8.1. |
| 00:02.20 | blast007 | s/packaged for/packaged in/ |
| 00:02.37 | JeffM | That was then, this is now. |
| 00:03.19 | macsforme | there are also browsers in linux for snap-style packages, so we still might benefit from being discovered that way |
| 00:04.19 | JeffM | Can you have the game directly download updates and put them in the user for, then redirect to that on startup? |
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| 00:05.05 | blast007 | would proto breaks every (around) 2 years be good enough? and then we support the current and last proto? |
| 00:06.12 | JeffM | Must be fun to be held hostage by a minority platform |
| 00:06.45 | blast007 | 25% in a minority? |
| 00:06.47 | blast007 | is* |
| 00:07.03 | JeffM | Yes |
| 00:07.17 | JeffM | Is I really larger than OS X now? |
| 00:07.36 | blast007 | I think it was generally pretty evenly split between mac and linux |
| 00:07.43 | JeffM | Not counting server, since you have said that most servers build from source. |
| 00:08.12 | blast007 | let's just go full Windows 10 and use DX12 |
| 00:08.34 | JeffM | That would be stupid |
| 00:08.48 | macsforme | 2 years would be better than our current 7-year protocol lifespan, but I feel that it could still hold us back significantly |
| 00:09.39 | macsforme | ideally we would be able to add a new message to the protocol, or change something, and have it published a few weeks later if we want |
| 00:11.27 | JeffM | Iâm sorry we canât pitch destiny this month, Debian wonât release till June. |
| 00:11.35 | blast007 | JeffM: but according to the Steam Hardware Survey, 53.1% of users are using Windows 10 64-bit, and 50.8% have Windows 10 with a DX12 GPU. |
| 00:12.29 | JeffM | You put bzflag on steam, that solves your problems |
| 00:13.07 | blast007 | nah, Windows Store |
| 00:13.19 | JeffM | Thatâs the part that would be stupid. |
| 00:13.26 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:13.54 | JeffM | So much for actually trying a to fix an actual problem. |
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| 01:25.55 | allejo | blast, yea rebases will typically require force pushes unless you havenât pushed to a remote at all |
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| 12:53.42 | tupone | Can we both work on 2.4, in compatibility mode :) and 2.6, updating 2.6 with the changes that some will put on 2.4 ? |
| 12:55.13 | blast007 | why would we do that? |
| 12:55.47 | blast007 | we need to focus on breaking changes now |
| 12:56.29 | tupone | I would like to add glew, gl1.5 network thread .... all things that could benefit both |
| 12:57.23 | tupone | I know we should l also eave a branch for security fix. |
| 12:57.54 | tupone | another is missing sound after pause and genocide |
| 12:58.21 | blast007 | well, we want to remove Genocide from 2.6, so that solves that problem :) |
| 12:58.42 | tupone | I would like to investigate on some strange ricochet. Maybe is the map |
| 12:58.59 | blast007 | you can't fix ricochet issues in 2.4 anyway |
| 13:00.12 | blast007 | personally, I don't see the advantage of moving from GL1.3 to 1.5 |
| 13:01.08 | tupone | Neither I do :) just some 0.05 % But it is the way to go for newer openGL |
| 13:01.33 | blast007 | 1.5 isn't "newer OpenGL" |
| 13:01.45 | blast007 | it's 15 years old |
| 13:02.55 | tupone | I know, s/GL1.5/vbo/ |
| 13:05.34 | tupone | But you are the boss here. It was just a question |
| 13:29.03 | blast007 | I think it would need further discussion |
| 13:29.28 | blast007 | a bigger issue right now is the lack of IPv6 support |
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| 14:35.15 | JeffM | blast007: you may want to have people create github tickets for things they want to do, so nobody does double work. |
| 14:35.58 | blast007 | yeah, I want to use the 'projects' feature of github as well |
| 14:36.08 | JeffM | that the thing with the boxes? |
| 14:37.33 | blast007 | I guess? :) that kinda describes a lot of things |
| 14:37.55 | blast007 | the thing with columns and cards that you can move around |
| 14:37.58 | JeffM | where you drag them from one column to another. |
| 14:38.00 | JeffM | yeah that |
| 14:42.05 | JeffM | were you able to merge 2.4 into master? |
| 14:45.28 | macsforme | I would be in favor of transitioning to GL 2.1 or even 3.2 (which would take more work to transition) |
| 14:45.49 | macsforme | 2.1 would allow us to do it progressively, while still incorporating some shader stuff alongside our current code |
| 14:47.45 | macsforme | per-pixel lighting would be a big graphical improvement right off the bat |
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| 23:55.25 | BulletCatcher | blast007: When I run your barebones SDL2 test program it gives me a black 800x600 screen with only the cursor visible (which I can move with the mouse) and then it goes back to my usual 1920x1080 mode as the program exits. It seems to be working successfully. |
| 23:56.17 | blast007 | it's supposed to show a triangle |
| 23:57.12 | BulletCatcher | I don't see that. |
| 23:57.18 | blast007 | hmm.. |
| 23:57.52 | blast007 | (it was also supposed to show a triangle where each corner was either red, green, or blue.. but seems it just does a blue triangle here) |
| 23:59.01 | BulletCatcher | A window appears ever so breifly before it switches to fullscreen. |
| 23:59.36 | blast007 | did you try all three FULLSCREEN_MODE's? |