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| 00:55.09 | macsforme | blast007: it's in core after OpenGL 3.0 (I think), but I believe the extension would let us use it with the current GL version we target (GL_ARB_framebuffer_object requires OpenGL 1.1) |
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| 19:52.40 | allejo | weee VS for mac is finally out of "preview" |
| 19:53.11 | JeffM | have you used it? |
| 19:53.32 | allejo | nope, just installing it right now |
| 19:54.43 | Leppp | as in the social networking platform? |
| 19:55.00 | JeffM | as in visual studio on OSX |
| 19:55.09 | JeffM | write up nice C# apps |
| 19:55.42 | allejo | lame, VS for mac community edition doesn't seem to support bz's projects |
| 19:55.53 | JeffM | no it wouldn't |
| 19:55.56 | JeffM | it doesn't do C++ |
| 19:55.59 | JeffM | it's C# only |
| 19:56.07 | JeffM | well and VB and F# |
| 19:56.10 | JeffM | all the managed langauges |
| 19:56.12 | JeffM | not C++ |
| 19:56.32 | JeffM | hell C++ is not even installed by default on windows with VC2017 |
| 19:57.10 | allejo | ah, would make sense |
| 19:57.19 | allejo | let's open up something C# then |
| 19:57.38 | blast007 | BZFlag.net |
| 19:57.41 | JeffM | the C++ compiler and debugger are very heavaly tied to windows |
| 19:57.54 | JeffM | the C# compiler is open source |
| 19:58.20 | JeffM | VS on mac should open all my libBZFlag stuff |
| 19:58.24 | JeffM | it's standard C# |
| 19:58.38 | allejo | yea, loaded up your lib just fine |
| 19:59.15 | JeffM | blast007: there are openGL, OpenAL, and openCL bindings for C# :) |
| 19:59.17 | allejo | huh well at least there's a demand: https://visualstudio.uservoice.com/forums/563332-visual-studio-for-mac/suggestions/17141708-support-c-in-visual-studio-for-mac |
| 19:59.23 | JeffM | as well as generic input and joystick stuff |
| 19:59.53 | JeffM | yeah, I think they will get C++ going on eventualy |
| 20:00.09 | JeffM | they are working on using external compilers in VS for windows, with the VS for linux stuff |
| 20:00.16 | JeffM | where it uses gcc on a linux machine |
| 20:00.25 | JeffM | my guess is once that is stable they will move it into other platforms. |
| 20:01.53 | allejo | they're doing vs for linux? |
| 20:02.10 | JeffM | no, they are allowing linux development on a windows box, using a linux machine for builds |
| 20:02.17 | JeffM | like remote builds, remote debug, etc.. |
| 20:02.20 | allejo | ah |
| 20:02.24 | blast007 | I did OpenGL with C# back in ~2005 |
| 20:02.42 | blast007 | via CsGL |
| 20:03.00 | allejo | the dark theme in VS for mac is not the same as VS for windows. that's... disheartening |
| 20:03.17 | JeffM | it's not the same application |
| 20:03.26 | JeffM | vs on mac is based off of monodev |
| 20:03.34 | blast007 | it was one of the NeHe tutorials and I copy/pasted and find/replaced code from BZFlag to replace the spinning cube with a BZFlag tank :) |
| 20:03.36 | allejo | VSCode nailed the color scheme at least though |
| 20:03.37 | JeffM | vs on windows is based off vs on windows :) |
| 20:04.05 | JeffM | I've always used OpenTK, https://opentk.github.io/ has the openAL and other wrapers built in |
| 20:04.34 | JeffM | and its in nuget |
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| 21:28.40 | blast007 | http://www.adriancourreges.com/blog/2017/05/09/beware-of-transparent-pixels/ |