| 00:02.12 | macsforme | figures |
| 00:03.14 | the_map | macsforme: you just ruined the meta-conversation :( |
| 00:03.51 | macsforme | I'm pretty sure last time the excuse was "there has been no development activity, and we haven't had a release in years" |
| 00:04.25 | BulletCatcher | The GSoC server listing project was successfully merged into 2.99. |
| 00:04.27 | BulletCatcher | It might be relatively easy to port it to 2.4. |
| 00:04.49 | BulletCatcher | See the "gsoc_server_listing" tag in the Git repo. |
| 00:05.11 | macsforme | bzworkbench was stand-alone and mostly usable at one point |
| 00:06.10 | macsforme | the world generator too, iirc |
| 00:07.21 | macsforme | I doubt we would even want to bring over any of the other stuff at this point... maybe the robot stuff |
| 00:12.58 | allejo | bring it into 2.6 |
| 00:15.50 | macsforme | can we at least articulate our reasons this time, so we can have another sane, rational and... uh... concise conversation again next time? |
| 00:16.36 | macsforme | blast007 mentioned that we haven't actually used any of the previous projects, which is valid, but at this point I doubt we will ever use most of them |
| 00:20.00 | blast007 | we haven't even used them as an example of what to do |
| 00:42.30 | macsforme | how about what not to do? :P |
| 00:42.58 | blast007 | I think we got that on lockdown |
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| 01:51.06 | blast007 | macsforme: on my Raspberry Pi 2, playing Ducati at 640x480 windowed (as full-screen mode switches don't seem to work), I was getting 30 to 40 FPS in their packaged BZFlag 2.4.2 with the experimental OpenGL driver enabled |
| 01:51.25 | blast007 | fullscreen 1080p mofo I was only getting 10 to 15 |
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| 05:45.42 | jcp | blast007: did anyone ever backport my cloaked shot flag? |
| 05:46.00 | jcp | and how hard would I have to work to convince you to let me? |
| 05:46.27 | jcp | is out of touch with current sentiment toward new flag types |
| 06:20.08 | allejo | would have to wait until 2.6 |
| 06:20.24 | allejo | which hasn't been started yet |
| 06:21.53 | macsforme | blast007: interesting... I didn't know they had such a driver |
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| 06:23.56 | macsforme | mine doesn't run in windowed mode at all, I don't think... there's an SDL error |
| 06:24.09 | macsforme | (on the raspberry pi) |
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| 11:28.13 | blast007 | macsforme: it came out yesterday, need to have the latest stuff |
| 11:30.27 | blast007 | macsforme: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/another-new-raspbian-release/ I did a clean SD card using the latest NOOBS, and it seemed to have xcompmgr and libgl1-mesa-dri already installed, and then I installed the bzflag package, overclocked the unit to 1GHz, allocated 512MB to the GPU, and enabled the experimental driver (Advanced Options->GL Driver) |
| 11:39.08 | blast007 | macsforme: "Due to memory requirements, this will not work on Pi 1 or Pi Zero boards â it is solely for Pi 2." |
| 11:46.08 | blast007 | hmm, and they're saying that allocating as much memory as I did to the GPU should have prevented it from booting |
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| 14:14.11 | macsforme | it would be interesting to compare performance between that and my embedded port... sounds pretty close, at least |
| 14:29.19 | blast007 | CPU was sitting at around 20% running windowed at 640x480, getting about 30 FPS on ducati (with chat and scoreboard up, fast radar) |
| 14:33.34 | blast007 | (and that was after I switched the GPU to having 128MB of memory, since it sounds like the OpenGL driver allocates 256MB of memory from system memory) |
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| 18:45.04 | jcp | allejo: so then the real question, what are the chances that 2.6 will go the way of 3.0? |
| 19:29.39 | blast007 | jcp: insane feature bloat and obscure bugs that only manifest after playing the game for 30 to 60 minutes? ;) |
| 19:30.01 | blast007 | 2.6 does have an actual plan defined right now |
| 19:30.31 | jcp | ~lart blast007 |
| 19:30.31 | infobot | blasts blast007 to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 19:30.34 | jcp | Iâll take it |
| 19:30.58 | blast007 | it does include some features with a bit more risk, at least compared to how we played it safe with 2.4 |
| 19:31.19 | blast007 | https://wiki.bzflag.org/DevelopmentPlans/2.6.0 |
| 19:31.51 | blast007 | also, that's probably the most relevant lart for me in ibot's database |
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