| 00:25.03 | macsforme | blast007: http://fairserve.net/~josh/bzflag/BZFlag-2.4.4-RC3-MacOSX.zip |
| 00:25.20 | macsforme | I think it was a code signing issue, since we include the SDL framework that was already signed by them |
| 01:06.36 | blast007 | macsforme: thanks, posted |
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| 08:16.02 | valera_rozuvan | Hi all! Just wanted to share with you a funny moment = ) Here's a not-so-perfect physics simulation http://media.giphy.com/media/o9awDl6tjqBvG/giphy.gif . Notice the soldier riding the gun station! = ) |
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| 18:24.13 | blast007 | macsforme: feel free to tweak the ChangeLog before release if I didn't correctly explain the fixes that went into RC3 for Mac. |
| 18:24.51 | blast007 | (the mouse pointer at the top of the screen thing, unless that was a bug that was in SDL2 that we resolved by just upgrading it) |
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| 22:41.37 | macsforme | looks fine... the pointer issue was inside SDL |
| 23:16.35 | allejo | so I don't believe +ALL works properly with custom perms |
| 23:16.57 | alezakos | yup |
| 23:17.40 | allejo | shouldn't it? |
| 23:19.58 | blast007 | it probably should. Add it as an issue and let's target that for 2.6. |
| 23:20.45 | allejo | can't work for 2.4? |
| 23:22.01 | allejo | i want to revisit the whole perm parsing system for 2.6 |
| 23:31.23 | blast007 | I see it as a somewhat major behavior change for a point release |
| 23:33.33 | blast007 | what if some plugin adds a negative permission, like a 'MUTE' permission? you'd suddently have admins getting that negative permission as well. |
| 23:35.01 | blast007 | a better solution might just be removing the 'ALL' shortcut and make the server owner just list all the permissions they want, or for us to define some built-in groups they can clone |
| 23:35.44 | allejo | +ALL sets a hasALLPerm boolean |
| 23:36.49 | allejo | +ALL needs to be improved actually... |
| 23:37.06 | allejo | something like !MUTE would negate +ALL entirely |
| 23:37.25 | allejo | oh no, wait i misread |
| 23:38.28 | allejo | oh ok, so you can't explicitly deny a custom permission |
| 23:40.29 | blast007 | I don't think we should mess with our permissions system until it's not garbage |
| 23:40.39 | blast007 | the custom permissions was kinda hacked into the system |
| 23:40.57 | blast007 | the API for dealing with permissions is absolute garbage |
| 23:41.30 | allejo | having +ALL work for custom perms is a quick fix |
| 23:41.47 | allejo | but yea, this is why i want to revisit it for 2.6 lol |
| 23:43.03 | blast007 | what urgent problem does it solve? |
| 23:43.52 | allejo | not urgent at all, just misleading that +ALL doesn't work for custom permissions if a plug-in requires it |
| 23:44.40 | blast007 | update the documentation to state that it doesn't work with custom permissions |
| 23:48.30 | the_map | misleading? like /killall? :) |
| 23:48.40 | the_map | or /superkill |
| 23:48.46 | the_map | or whatever that command is |
| 23:48.50 | blast007 | superkill |
| 23:48.59 | allejo | /killall is a custom slash command |
| 23:49.09 | blast007 | that's an example of why you don't let programmers name thing ;) |
| 23:49.58 | alezakos | you can have a +ALLCUSTOM perm that just gives access to all custom perms |
| 23:50.09 | alezakos | and we should probably give a better name to /superkill for 2.6 |
| 23:50.23 | allejo | /kickall? |
| 23:50.28 | the_map | blast007: when I name a project, I tend to use elvish words |
| 23:50.34 | blast007 | superkick |
| 23:50.47 | allejo | well, a superkill resets the server too |
| 23:51.10 | allejo | so /resetserver to follow /shutdownserver? |
| 23:51.18 | the_map | hmm...I have some bad internet lag |
| 23:51.27 | the_map | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.33 | the_map | nvm, was a silly mistake |
| 23:53.05 | blast007 | we should investigate if there's even a need for that command anymore |
| 23:53.21 | allejo | superkill? it's used on ducati to generate a new map |
| 23:53.23 | blast007 | 2.6 will also have some code refactoring |
| 23:53.38 | allejo | some...? :p |
| 23:53.43 | blast007 | map regeneration happens already when the last player leaves |
| 23:54.10 | alezakos | make it so the map can reload even with players online! |
| 23:55.04 | blast007 | alezakos: you joke, but that was a bug for a while in some development version of the code, perhaps 2.1/2.99 |
| 23:55.06 | allejo | we can include particles to animate the world falling and generating! |
| 23:55.27 | blast007 | so there would be a player sitting on a box on their screen, and floating in mid air on your screen |
| 23:56.17 | blast007 | and yes, "some refactoring" |
| 23:56.27 | alezakos | I wasn't totally joking, that's something I would really like to see in 2.6, along with 20 other things :) |
| 23:56.31 | blast007 | we don't want to go TOO crazy with refactoring or we'll end up with another 2.99.x |
| 23:56.57 | blast007 | alezakos: yeah, I misread |
| 23:57.25 | blast007 | but I'm talking about the world regenerating while players were online, but only the new players got the new map |
| 23:57.37 | allejo | send a new world to the client and have the client load it up? |
| 23:57.38 | blast007 | think it was when slot 0 left that it regenerated |
| 23:59.05 | alezakos | I'm talking about what allejo said, map reloading or even map changing without requiring players to rejoin |
| 23:59.52 | allejo | a mapchange plugin without killing the bzfs loop would have been possible in 2.4 if someone had finished the event... |
