| 00:19.43 | Patlabor221 | fun with GUIs :) http://imgur.com/vQyWPaj |
| 00:33.08 | mtnbkr | hey blast007 -- looking at this post http://bzexcess.com/2009/11/bzworkbench-on-linux/ , I am assuming it is you... Comments on bzWorkbench? |
| 00:34.15 | Patlabor221 | bzworkbench needs to be finished |
| 00:40.20 | delusional | probably better to use a full modeler. you can do some things with bzworkbench, but it is far from complete |
| 00:40.37 | delusional | nwings3d comes with a BZ exporter pre installed |
| 00:40.46 | Patlabor221 | I disagree |
| 00:40.59 | Patlabor221 | wings3d just exports meshes, it does not edit all the other aspects of a map |
| 00:41.14 | Patlabor221 | I think you should export meshes from wings3d INTO something like bzworkbench |
| 00:41.24 | Patlabor221 | then postion and replicate them as needed |
| 00:41.27 | mtnbkr | delusional: but this post: https://bzworkbench.wordpress.com/ says "Make no mistake, BZWB will become the ultimate BZFlag world editor." :) |
| 00:41.45 | Patlabor221 | bzworkbench is intended to be the standard editor |
| 00:42.00 | delusional | thats from 2007 |
| 00:42.05 | mtnbkr | :) |
| 00:42.09 | Patlabor221 | delusional just focuses too much on models and not enough on maps |
| 00:42.34 | blast007 | in it's current state, bzworkbench is in a similar level of support as the old BZEditW32, though with less puking on newer map files. |
| 00:42.44 | Patlabor221 | and less suck |
| 00:42.53 | Patlabor221 | should have never writen that |
| 00:44.41 | blast007 | it's a different suck. Not quite sure I'm fond of the chosen windowing toolkit of BZWB. |
| 00:44.49 | Patlabor221 | true |
| 00:44.56 | blast007 | Qt would probably be a nicer experience |
| 00:45.05 | Patlabor221 | but nether is the one that bzweditW32 uses, MFC ;) |
| 00:45.30 | Patlabor221 | GTKSharp! |
| 00:49.36 | mtnbkr | in any case, I can not get it to build on Gentoo... ./configure fails with "error: fltk library is required" even though I have installed the x11-libs/fltk ebuild |
| 00:52.25 | Patlabor221 | you may have to tweak the makefile to work |
| 00:52.31 | Patlabor221 | we don't keep it up to date |
| 00:53.10 | mtnbkr | ah Ok... I'll check it out. |
| 00:53.30 | Patlabor221 | if you do get it to build on a modern version of linux please submit a patch with your chnages |
| 00:54.15 | mtnbkr | Patlabor221: actually, this is failing duing configure |
| 00:54.23 | Patlabor221 | same thing to me |
| 00:54.29 | Patlabor221 | "build system magic" :) |
| 00:54.30 | mtnbkr | :) |
| 00:54.34 | mtnbkr | lol |
| 00:54.36 | mtnbkr | OK |
| 00:54.56 | mtnbkr | will see what I can find - not a programmer, but have experience. |
| 00:55.06 | Patlabor221 | and you choose gentoo? |
| 00:55.10 | Patlabor221 | interesting |
| 00:55.30 | Patlabor221 | but yeah while we WANT bzworkbench to be the official editor, nobody is working on it currently so it is not maintained |
| 00:56.38 | Patlabor221 | like blast I am not super happy with it's third party lib choices, but it is the editor that has the largest breadth of feature support |
| 00:56.53 | Patlabor221 | it is not intended to be a modeler, but a map layout tool, placing models and objects in a map |
| 01:03.46 | mtnbkr | Patlabor221: re gentoo: portage is probably the best package manager for linux systems. Don't have to be a prorammer to use it/gentoo. :) I have been managing linux systems for more than 15 years, and only dig around in Makefiles etc when I have to. I have programmer collegues for that... which I am going to reach out to right now hehe :) heck, maybe I can cajole him into picking up development of bzworkbench... |
| 01:08.01 | mtnbkr | Ok so far not so good... Programmer says svn? oh F&*^* no... git fan :) |
| 01:08.29 | mtnbkr | ok, cajolling working... got him to "let me install subversion" hehe |
| 01:10.33 | blast007 | it also might not build with the latest fltk |
| 01:12.47 | mtnbkr | blast007: yeah, possible.. I tried x11-libs/fltk v1.3.2 & v1.3.3-r2 but both are 1.3.x |
| 01:13.27 | blast007 | the INSTALL file mentions "FLTK 1.1.7" |
| 01:14.04 | blast007 | but the configure.ac file does check for 1.3, so I'm not sure ;D |
| 01:19.12 | mtnbkr | blast007: I've passed that on to him, thanks |
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