| 00:00.17 | JeffM | air controll systems should not be on public networks and never download anything |
| 00:00.36 | JeffM | this is my computer you are talking about, it's where I keep all my stuff, it should be important to me :) |
| 00:01.13 | JeffM | you can't trust anything you get over a network connection, so why should you arbitrarialy execute it? |
| 00:01.39 | alpha1-2 | then disconnect from the intenet and live alone also :P |
| 00:01.58 | JeffM | execute is not the same as 'view' :) |
| 00:02.19 | JeffM | but there are levels of risk |
| 00:02.31 | JeffM | I know javascript is very limiting, and it isn't compiled down to bytecode |
| 00:02.40 | JeffM | so I trust my browser to filter it out |
| 00:02.45 | JeffM | if it did anything bad |
| 00:02.50 | JeffM | it's easy to sandbox |
| 00:02.55 | alpha1-2 | as far as I know, everytime and the few times, I saw an online java application, the browser always asked me to run it, never automatically |
| 00:03.03 | JeffM | java and other bytecode languages I don't like |
| 00:03.13 | JeffM | they install at the system level not the application level |
| 00:03.33 | JeffM | but when you run it, it runs outside the browser |
| 00:03.38 | JeffM | it runs in the JRE |
| 00:03.45 | alpha1-2 | yes |
| 00:03.57 | JeffM | I can check what my browser has access to, with the JRE I have to limit it too |
| 00:04.00 | alpha1-2 | but the browser should ask you before running it |
| 00:04.04 | JeffM | no web page should need system level access |
| 00:04.15 | JeffM | there are ways around it asking :) |
| 00:04.28 | JeffM | it's just a bad idea overall |
| 00:04.43 | alpha1-2 | wait |
| 00:04.51 | alpha1-2 | see, you are going to the extreme |
| 00:04.56 | JeffM | not really |
| 00:05.11 | JeffM | downloading and running code is kinda silly when all you need is a scripting system |
| 00:05.20 | JeffM | most java pages can be impelemtned in javascript better |
| 00:05.28 | JeffM | then no need for a third party runtime |
| 00:05.56 | JeffM | I can understand a user downloading a java app and running it as an app |
| 00:05.58 | JeffM | that makes snes |
| 00:06.00 | JeffM | sense |
| 00:06.07 | JeffM | that's the same as downloading a bin and has the same risks |
| 00:06.16 | JeffM | but the browser it self should not need to do that |
| 00:07.01 | alpha1-2 | it is the same idea of you wanting to download any new software from the internet. Remember? before Java appeared, you could find over the internet any soft you wanted, download it and install it. It is the same idea: if you don't trust on it, then don't download nor install it. (you only can install with the admin password, then system level) |
| 00:07.38 | JeffM | yeah but then I choose to install it at the system level, I do not download it every time |
| 00:08.02 | JeffM | with a java page, I could trust the code today and accept the app, but tomorow someone could have changed the code on me |
| 00:08.16 | JeffM | with a download I know I always run what I downloaded |
| 00:09.05 | alpha1-2 | yes, okay, I like too to have all downloaded 1 time |
| 00:09.43 | alpha1-2 | but really I rarely have seen whole (Java) applications online |
| 00:10.03 | JeffM | any webpage that uses java will download the code each time |
| 00:10.11 | JeffM | it may cache it for a bit |
| 00:10.13 | alpha1-2 | to run directly from the browser |
| 00:10.17 | JeffM | yeah |
| 00:10.28 | JeffM | that's my issue, running it directly from the browser |
| 00:10.40 | alpha1-2 | ys, I rarely have seen those cases |
| 00:10.48 | alpha1-2 | then I don't bother much |
| 00:10.56 | JeffM | then you don't need java installed :) |
| 00:11.38 | alpha1-2 | you need to manage some tiny range of error, JeffM. You can't do your job perfectly. |
| 00:11.50 | JeffM | yes it's about acceptable risk |
| 00:11.57 | alpha1-2 | exactly |
| 00:12.00 | JeffM | and I'm not willing to accept the risk associated with Java |
| 00:12.05 | JeffM | I am with javascript |
| 00:12.07 | JeffM | that is my line |
| 00:12.14 | alpha1-2 | okay :) |
| 00:12.26 | JeffM | so not too extreeme ;) |
| 00:12.36 | alpha1-2 | oh yes, in yourcase I und. it |
| 00:12.54 | alpha1-2 | to me (my clients) it is not too bad |
| 00:13.14 | JeffM | cool, so we can probably hack your browser |
| 00:13.42 | Snake12534 | what number does int go up to? |
| 00:13.52 | JeffM | what kind of int? |
| 00:13.57 | Snake12534 | is there any other variable that can go even higher than int? |
| 00:14.00 | Snake12534 | default int |
| 00:14.02 | JeffM | short, long, long long, signed, unsigned? |
| 00:14.02 | alpha1-2 | but thanks for the talk, it is always enriching |
| 00:14.11 | JeffM | default in what langauge? |
| 00:14.14 | Snake12534 | javascript |
| 00:14.19 | JeffM | it's a string |
| 00:14.25 | JeffM | javascript is not typed |
| 00:14.46 | alpha1-2 | I will never accept a java app from the forum then ;) |
| 00:14.50 | JeffM | thats one reason I trust it more, it's slow but everything just goes out to strings and has less change of overflowing |
| 00:15.28 | JeffM | a 32 bit unsigned int has a max value of over 4 billion |
| 00:15.36 | alpha1-2 | BBL |
| 00:15.38 | JeffM | 0xFFFFFFFF to be exact |
| 00:16.49 | Snake12534 | a double seems to work more effectively in javascript |
| 00:17.02 | JeffM | a double is 64 bits |
| 00:17.17 | JeffM | it's floating point |
| 00:17.27 | JeffM | so it can't eactly hold the same values as an int |
| 00:17.34 | Snake12534 | yes |
| 00:18.20 | JeffM | sometimes you can't use floating point |
| 00:19.34 | Snake12534 | in my problem, i think i should use a floating point over a whole number |
| 00:19.39 | Snake12534 | thanks for the help |
| 00:19.53 | JeffM | depends what the number represents |
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| 01:02.54 | alpha1-2 | Ducati match/es waiting since now, for those who wish to participate. Tomorow, last day, at 21 UTC. |
| 01:02.56 | alpha1-2 | http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ |
| 01:04.26 | Snake12534 | alpha1-2: are you hosting an event? |
| 01:05.33 | alpha1-2 | come and see :) . It is specially to invite developers to share some matches together. |
| 01:05.54 | Snake12534 | right now on bzflag? |
| 01:06.01 | Snake12534 | and define 'developer' :P |
| 01:06.40 | alpha1-2 | ducati, rigt now and tomorow, last 2 days (we were playing almost all the week) |
| 01:06.55 | alpha1-2 | developer, who codes for BZ |
| 01:07.09 | alpha1-2 | or related soft. |
| 01:15.27 | allejo | hehe jeff |
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| 02:22.57 | allejo | lol JeffM, for libraries I can see GPL being a pain but for a plug-in (which most likely won't be forked into a closed source project)? :p |
| 02:24.20 | JeffM | allejo, as a plug-in, it IS a library :) |
| 02:24.56 | allejo | hmm never actually thought of it that way |
| 02:25.05 | JeffM | it is a dynamicly loaded library |
| 02:25.16 | JeffM | techincaly bzflag can't load it, since bzflag isn't GPL ;) |
| 02:26.01 | allejo | well that's an inconvenience |
| 02:26.16 | JeffM | yeah I doubt you'd sue bzflag for loading it ;) |
| 02:26.44 | allejo | hehe |
| 02:26.50 | allejo | nah i like you guys :p |
| 02:41.15 | JeffM | Just use the Ms-PL :) |
| 02:44.12 | alpha1-2 | "<JeffM> techincaly bzflag can't load it, since bzflag isn't GPL ;)" what do you mean, JeffM? |
| 02:44.39 | alpha1-2 | sometimes you make me dizzy :)) |
| 02:44.40 | JeffM | a GPL lib dosn't have an exception for dynamic linking, anything that uses the code must also be GPL :) |
| 02:44.50 | JeffM | bzflag is not GPL |
| 02:44.54 | JeffM | and it loads the library |
| 02:45.47 | alpha1-2 | but allejo's library/plugin is GPL |
| 02:45.52 | JeffM | yes |
| 02:45.54 | JeffM | bzflag is not |
| 02:45.58 | JeffM | bzflag does the loading |
| 02:46.02 | JeffM | not his plugin |
| 02:46.40 | alpha1-2 | oh, I see, all GPL software must be related only to GPL software, you mean? |
| 02:46.57 | JeffM | all things that use GPL software must also be GPL |
| 02:46.58 | JeffM | yeah |
| 02:47.36 | JeffM | not that anyone would have an issue with it |
| 02:47.40 | alpha1-2 | then a LGPL software like BZ can't supposedly use a GPL library/plugin? |
| 02:48.13 | JeffM | actualy it may be ok, the LGPL is GPL compatable |
| 02:48.22 | JeffM | so I think I'm wrong |
| 02:48.41 | alpha1-2 | yes, I never worried about it, they must be compatible |
| 02:48.42 | JeffM | the GPL requires that code that uses it be GPL compatable, not specificly GPL |
| 02:49.13 | alpha1-2 | ah okay, that's it |
| 02:50.59 | alpha1-2 | then only strong restriction I remember well is that if you develop and you use GPL software, then you have to continue into the same license (GPL). If you use for example LGPL, you can swicth to GPL, but then you must stay into it since then. |
| 02:51.04 | alpha1-2 | the only* |
| 02:51.59 | JeffM | I dont't belive it is limited to "develop" |
| 02:52.24 | BulletCatcher | The GPL permits the distribution (copying) of software provided that certain conditions are met. |
| 02:52.25 | BulletCatcher | I don't think it restricts the way a person may mix software components at runtime on their own computer. |
| 02:52.33 | alpha1-2 | and OFC you can't switch to a propietary one |
| 02:52.47 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, true |
| 02:53.22 | allejo | BC! |
| 02:53.48 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
| 02:55.25 | alpha1-2 | hi BC, do you see a plugin like a dynamic library also? are you talking of this? |
| 02:56.01 | JeffM | on windows it's a DLL, Dynamic Linked Library, what else can it be? :) |
| 02:56.02 | alpha1-2 | (or dynamic link) |
| 02:56.10 | JeffM | on linux it's a .so |
| 02:56.19 | JeffM | thats dyanmicly linked |
| 02:56.21 | allejo | on OS X it's a .dylib |
| 02:56.26 | JeffM | yeah |
| 02:56.42 | JeffM | the entire system works because they are dynamic libs |
| 02:56.46 | alpha1-2 | yes, but I never thought about a plugin like a dynamic library |
| 02:56.54 | JeffM | thats how plugins work |
| 02:57.02 | JeffM | if they wern't they'd be staticly linked at compile time |
| 02:57.24 | alpha1-2 | not sure if BulletCatcher was refering to it, though, that is why I asked |
| 02:58.02 | allejo | it's not up to him how he sees the plugin, it's a dynamic library as jeff described |
| 02:58.07 | alpha1-2 | yes, I know the difference |
| 02:58.30 | alpha1-2 | "<BulletCatcher> I don't think it restricts the way a person may mix software components at runtime on their own computer." |
| 02:58.41 | allejo | never actually thought of a plugin of a dynamic library even though .dll and .dylib should have given it away... |
| 02:59.14 | JeffM | he was refering to 2 things |
| 02:59.23 | JeffM | 1) the GPL only deals with distrobution not use |
| 02:59.35 | alpha1-2 | because if he was talking of plugins, then he is saying the opposite of you, JeffM :) |
| 02:59.37 | JeffM | 2) the GPL just needs conditions to be meet not specificly licenses |
| 02:59.45 | JeffM | alpha1-2, no I agree with him now |
| 03:00.02 | JeffM | I said I was thinking I was wrong |
| 03:00.26 | allejo | i'm kinda happy you were wrong, jeff :p |
| 03:00.45 | JeffM | the LGPL meets the conditions of the GPL :) |
| 03:01.11 | JeffM | allejo, I still say you should use Ms-PL :) |
| 03:02.14 | JeffM | it's OSI approved :) |
| 03:03.33 | alpha1-2 | well, Jeffm, but remmber I was questioning you before him, giveme some credit also ;) |
| 03:03.38 | alpha1-2 | JeffM* |
| 03:03.55 | JeffM | heh |
| 03:04.07 | alpha1-2 | \o/ thanks! |
| 03:04.37 | JeffM | in the open source philosophy, you do it for the love of doing it, not the credit :) |
| 03:04.44 | allejo | will read up on it |
| 03:05.00 | JeffM | allejo, it's just a microsoft license :) |
| 03:05.15 | allejo | I figured that's what the MS was for :p |
| 03:06.03 | alpha1-2 | where did go all that about "we are a meritocracy"? (joke) |
| 03:07.06 | alpha1-2 | well, I go out, rather tired, thanks for all :) |
| 03:07.20 | Flash | doesn't do windows |
| 03:07.25 | Flash | doesn't do Windows |
| 03:07.27 | BulletCatcher | My understanding is that the LGPL allows distribution of the relevant "library" along with non-free software, without forcing GPL terms onto the non-free portion. |
| 03:07.31 | BulletCatcher | Thus, BZFlag could be bundled with proprietary software and they could be distributed together with their incompatible licenses. |
| 03:07.33 | BulletCatcher | On the other hand, allejo's GPL plugin can only be distributed along with other GPL-compatible software. |
| 03:07.35 | JeffM | then you must lack vision Flash :) |
| 03:07.42 | Flash | no, I have scruples |
| 03:08.11 | JeffM | Flash, you know they worked on the linux kernel right? |
| 03:08.31 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, that makes sense |
| 03:08.33 | Flash | what they worked on and what they sell are two entirely different things |
| 03:09.02 | JeffM | Flash, they were the top corporate contributor to the kernel in 2011 |
| 03:09.26 | Flash | that's nice. I still don't take Linux seriously. I'd much rather work on Solaris |
| 03:09.45 | JeffM | but the MsPL is a variant of BSD, it's very permisve |
| 03:09.52 | Flash | Linux is an operating system for people who want to play with operating systems |
| 03:09.57 | JeffM | heh |
| 03:10.25 | Flash | The only thing Microsoft that I like is my Microsoft mouse |
| 03:10.40 | JeffM | the natural keyboard is pretty nice too |
| 03:11.03 | alpha1-2 | ah BulletCatcher, that is why many (or all) linux distro only give access to non-free/libre soft through their repositories, right? |
| 03:11.10 | alpha1-2 | distros* |
| 03:11.44 | JeffM | alpha1-2, I don't think that's the main reason |
| 03:11.56 | alpha1-2 | because they have a lot of GPL soft. |
| 03:12.00 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:12.11 | JeffM | they also have a lot of BSD and MIT software |
| 03:12.28 | JeffM | LLVM is available in distros and it's not GPL |
| 03:12.54 | alpha1-2 | "Microsoft mouse" hehe |
| 03:13.05 | JeffM | they make good mice |
| 03:13.20 | Flash | I've had two (I wore the first one out) |
| 03:13.32 | BulletCatcher | The mouse I am using right now is Microsoft branded. |
| 03:14.07 | JeffM | they make some good cheap solid mice |
| 03:14.21 | Flash | best mouse I've ever used |
| 03:14.40 | Flash | and that is the nicest thing you will EVER hear me say about Micro$oft |
| 03:14.45 | JeffM | heh |
| 03:15.15 | allejo | hehe |
| 03:16.25 | BulletCatcher | alpha1-2: The individual RPM or deb files in a distro are not considered bundled in a way that makes the GPL cross from one to the other. |
| 03:17.00 | BulletCatcher | I suspect that most distros choose not to distribute non-free software simply to avoid the effort of getting permission to do so. |
| 03:18.06 | alpha1-2 | BRB sorry |
| 03:22.49 | BulletCatcher | rpmfusion.org does get permission to distribute many non-free packages (such as proprietary video drivers) and they make it easy for people to install that proprietary software on their Fedora Linux systems. |
| 03:26.12 | JeffM | Ubuntu does the same thing |
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| 03:32.06 | Snake125341 | sorry khonkhortisan, i got disconnected |
| 03:32.43 | Snake12534 | ping allejo |
| 03:36.40 | alpha1-2 | before I forget, BulletCatcher, Flash, [DTRemenak], Constitution, alezakos, cods, and others that can be interested and maybe weren't here before, also those who supported along the week, try to attend tomorow to Ducati match at 21 UTC. We got a very nice match this evening, 8 vs 8, with several observers, we were on top of the server list. Also the Sunday there are 2 nice events at 19 and 19:40 UTC. Not saying more! :)) |
| 03:38.21 | alpha1-2 | well brad, Chestal, etc., there are a lot... |
| 03:39.03 | alpha1-2 | also JeffM, have a look, mate :) |
| 03:39.10 | Flash | don't make me do math.... |
| 03:39.44 | Flash | CO is UTC -6 .... so 1500L ? I don't know if I can make it but I'll try. |
| 03:40.12 | alpha1-2 | blast007, OFC, etc. (he attended!) |
| 03:40.32 | alpha1-2 | TimRiker, don't forget us! :) |
| 03:40.44 | JeffM | he's not here |
| 03:40.51 | alpha1-2 | I know :) |
| 03:41.31 | alpha1-2 | [TimRiker]* (absent) |
| 03:47.51 | alpha1-2 | Flash: thanks!, and, yes, I considered all the USA timezones: it will be from 6 p.m. (east coast, not New York) to 2 p. m. (Los Angeles) (not including Alaska) |
| 03:48.20 | JeffM | new york is on on the east cost :) |
| 03:48.31 | alpha1-2 | yes, but it is UTC-4 |
| 03:49.05 | alpha1-2 | I have UTC -3, the same as the last east USA UTC |
| 03:49.36 | alpha1-2 | don't remember the cities over there |
| 03:49.54 | JeffM | new york is the eastern time zone, it's not special from what's around it |
| 03:49.56 | alpha1-2 | wen you say East Cast time, do you mean NY or those other cities? |
| 03:49.58 | alpha1-2 | when* |
| 03:50.26 | alpha1-2 | see http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ |
| 03:50.55 | JeffM | New york is in that big green part :) |
| 03:50.58 | alpha1-2 | Hallfax |
| 03:51.20 | alpha1-2 | oh that is Canada! |
| 03:51.44 | alpha1-2 | okay, then from 5 p. m. to 2 p. m. |
| 03:52.12 | alpha1-2 | Halifax |
| 03:52.51 | JeffM | 5PM EST / 2PM PST |
| 03:53.10 | alpha1-2 | ahh okay, yes, that's it |
| 04:00.12 | alpha1-2 | BulletCatcher: yes, I can install in openSUSE non-free packages from the non-OSS soft repository also... let me see... for example: flash-player, unrar, acroread, java-1_6_0-sun, etc. but, yes, they avoid to do it in the CD/DVD versions IIRC |
| 04:03.30 | Snake12534 | what does it mean to Use the DATABASE.sql file to create the necessary database structure |
| 04:04.02 | JeffM | exactly what it says |
| 04:04.16 | JeffM | use that file to create a database |
| 04:04.47 | JeffM | hat DBMS are you using? |
| 04:05.59 | Snake12534 | How* |
| 04:06.37 | JeffM | what DBMS are you using? |
| 04:06.49 | Snake12534 | DBMS? |
| 04:07.00 | JeffM | Database Management System |
| 04:07.06 | alpha1-2 | I remember in 2005, it was in SuSE Linux at that time, IIRC, and I could install the Nvidia driver package from the repository, and then, after restart the computer (or just before), it connected directly to the Nvidia site to check/download something more and configure all. It was kind of strange, but it worked very well. I think it just asked for restarting to change the video configuration, though; it is very rare to have restart |
| 04:07.08 | alpha1-2 | in linux. |
| 04:07.26 | JeffM | alpha1-2, thy don't do that anymore |
| 04:07.42 | JeffM | many distros offer non free repos and tools to get drivers going |
| 04:08.07 | JeffM | Snake12534, do you know what a DBMS is? |
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| 04:11.18 | alpha1-2 | to do what anymore? |
| 04:11.26 | JeffM | connect to nvidia |
| 04:12.01 | Snake12534 | JeffM: no |
| 04:12.16 | alpha1-2 | you know that I try to avoid propietary software or do you have any other doubt? :) |
| 04:12.59 | JeffM | Snake12534, it's like MySQL, MSSQl, etc.. |
| 04:13.04 | JeffM | what are you trying to do? |
| 04:13.25 | JeffM | alpha1-2, I'm betting you haven't installed nvidia drivers in a while :) |
| 04:13.47 | alpha1-2 | true, why? |
| 04:14.04 | JeffM | just based on your comments |
| 04:14.06 | Snake12534 | JeffM: https://github.com/allejo/bzion |
| 04:14.27 | JeffM | Snake12534, do you have web server? |
| 04:14.37 | Snake12534 | No. |
| 04:14.45 | JeffM | then you can't use that project |
| 04:14.49 | JeffM | it's a website |
| 04:15.04 | alpha1-2 | but do you have any doubt about me trying to avoid prop. software? |
| 04:15.20 | JeffM | alpha1-2, no, why? |
| 04:15.50 | alpha1-2 | no, just cause you said "try don't do that anymore" |
| 04:16.01 | JeffM | oh, I meant to say "they" |
| 04:16.15 | alpha1-2 | ahh okay |
| 04:19.08 | alpha1-2 | yes, that 3D card was burnt, I never bothered to get another one/fix it and those other what I got (generic onboard ones) I just wanted the free drivers, but never worked, until with this new computer and new system I finally could get it work just some time ago |
| 04:20.17 | alpha1-2 | I tried Intel ones also, but never worked until last ones |
| 04:20.46 | alpha1-2 | it was a loong way, but I am happy now |
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| 04:51.31 | allejo | JeffM, in the bz_ePlayerUpdateEvent, what's the different between state and lastState? by the looks of it it's the change in states to show that there was an update, am I right or entirely wrong? |
| 04:54.02 | JeffM | allejo, yeah |
| 04:54.10 | JeffM | "where we thought they were before this one |
| 04:55.19 | allejo | Snake12534, what jeff said. look up XAMPP and how to configure it so you can have apache and mysql running on your computer. and I mean "look up" (i.e. research). don't just download it and ask "what next?" :p |
| 04:55.45 | Snake12534 | alright |
| 04:55.49 | allejo | thanks jeff, was just making sure |
| 04:57.42 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Allejo * 8829 /Bz_ePlayerUpdateEven: Clarified documentation on the two state variables |
| 04:58.50 | JeffM | allejo, at one time it was where we interpolated the player postion to be |
| 04:58.54 | JeffM | but it was not very accurate |
| 04:59.59 | allejo | in the 2.0.x api? the wiki documentation for this event was completely wrong lol |
| 05:00.25 | JeffM | no, in the 2.99 one IIRC |
| 05:00.36 | JeffM | tha was the version that did interpolation |
| 05:00.47 | JeffM | but really it should be a history list of postions |
| 05:00.50 | JeffM | with times |
| 05:01.13 | allejo | that list would get really long, no? |
| 05:01.40 | JeffM | you'd go back only a few seconds |
| 05:01.47 | JeffM | Linked Lists FTW :) |
| 05:02.43 | allejo | ohhhh |
| 05:02.56 | allejo | would make more sense that way lol |
| 05:03.37 | JeffM | linked list of shared pointers :) |
| 05:06.15 | allejo | that'd be effecient |
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| 05:50.10 | Flash | even more efficient than a list would be a polynomial equation (or the coefficients of the same) |
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| 19:36.36 | alpha1-2 | I had some connection issues just before, can anyone confirm the 2 messages were sent, please? |
| 19:39.16 | blast007 | I saw one message. "5 p. m. East Coast Time, 2 p. m. Pacific Coast Time - http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/" |
| 19:40.18 | alpha1-2 | and the "Ducati *last-day* match/es" one a little before? |
| 19:41.00 | blast007 | nope |
| 19:41.25 | alpha1-2 | okay, thanks blast007, I will repeat them, then: |
| 19:42.00 | alpha1-2 | is there any problem if I use "***" at the start and at the final of the message? |
| 19:42.38 | blast007 | I don't see why you'd need to use that... |
| 19:42.52 | alpha1-2 | okay, maybe it was a IRC issue |
| 19:44.13 | alpha1-2 | Ducati *last-day* match/es - for the development spirit: we start in 1 hour 45 min. aprox. (21 UTC), all invited! At first, in a public server, not registration needed; later, new public/official servers can be used too if too many people or if wish; observers welcome, also. |
| 19:44.15 | alpha1-2 | 5 p. m. East Coast Time, 2 p. m. Pacific Coast Time - http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ |
| 19:46.55 | alpha1-2 | (always Ducati style servers please) |
| 19:54.57 | alpha1-2 | uh, sorry, *"we start in 1 hour 15 min. aprox"*, now, in 1 hour aprox. |
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| 21:05.25 | alpha1-2 | Last Ducati match/es: waiting since now - all invited! |
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| 21:30.18 | alpha1-2 | 4 vs 4 already guys, last day! |
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| 21:38.07 | kierra | I'm waiting to shoot blast007's tank |
| 21:38.12 | kierra | :D:D:D:D |
| 21:38.52 | kierra | Been years since I shot my learner man's tank.....brlcad |
| 21:41.25 | spldart | oh my. To much excitement for me |
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| 21:57.24 | blast007 | kierra: I was playing Ducati on Thursday :P |
| 21:57.44 | kierra | really? |
| 21:57.49 | kierra | i missed it? |
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| 21:58.03 | kierra | play tomorrow, 19 UTC :) |
| 21:58.11 | kierra | please :) |
| 22:01.05 | blast007 | note that I don't do matches.. not really my thing. |
| 22:32.13 | kierra | blast, just for fun.....nothing official :) |
| 22:33.15 | kierra | some of my fondest memories is playing with quol and learner :).....teaching those guys a thing or three |
| 22:33.34 | kierra | fondest memories on bz....that is |
| 22:41.32 | alpha1-2 | Quol* (riiing!) :) |
| 22:49.16 | alpha1-2 | yes, tomorow there are 2 nice events to assist: 19 and 19:40 UTC (http://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=18866). Thanks very much for all who attended along this week. It was fun and nice to see several of you doing it (maybe some hidden ones also? :) , and well, keep trying please, BZ is a good and fun game to share time and to meet people. Also feel free to repeat this week event experience, don't depend of me/kierra/others |
| 22:49.17 | alpha1-2 | necessarily. Greetings! :)) |
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| 23:23.16 | alpha1-2 | assist --> attend* |
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