| 01:47.00 | WillsParadise | is there a different between _speedChecksLogOnly and _disableSpeedChecks ? |
| 01:47.26 | WillsParadise | Is the only difference that the first logs violations? |
| 01:48.58 | blast007 | don't change either of those from their defaults |
| 02:02.48 | JeffM | the speed checks are super unstable :) |
| 02:02.53 | JeffM | they were a bad idea |
| 02:13.12 | WillsParadise | disabling speed checks are a bad idea? |
| 02:13.37 | JeffM | they are disabled by default |
| 02:13.59 | WillsParadise | hmm i had people getting kicked from BU at start and i disabled speed checks adn it stopped |
| 02:14.00 | JeffM | sending it thru any code other then the default is buggy |
| 02:14.18 | JeffM | just be careful |
| 02:14.22 | WillsParadise | k |
| 02:14.34 | WillsParadise | is there a way to spread out the initial serv message? like a wait command? |
| 02:14.42 | JeffM | nope |
| 02:14.52 | JeffM | well you can write a plugin |
| 02:15.01 | WillsParadise | what if i put a c ouple blank servmsg in between the two i want to space out? |
| 02:15.02 | JeffM | send multiple chat messages |
| 02:16.17 | JeffM | doesn't work that way |
| 02:16.27 | WillsParadise | k |
| 02:16.33 | WillsParadise | ill just make it all one line |
| 02:17.02 | JeffM | it should not be a novel :) |
| 02:17.06 | WillsParadise | nope |
| 02:17.09 | WillsParadise | just welcome to wills paradise |
| 02:17.20 | WillsParadise | but i added something regarding Open FFA too since everyone seems to get confused |
| 02:17.32 | JeffM | silly players :) |
| 02:17.33 | WillsParadise | it seems to help |
| 02:17.47 | WillsParadise | i opened my server back up like 10minutes ago and its only got a couple spots open already |
| 02:17.49 | WillsParadise | stays busy |
| 02:17.56 | JeffM | cool |
| 02:18.29 | BulletCatcher | You can have blank lines in the initial server message. |
| 02:18.37 | WillsParadise | i love the raining frogs - but a bit too laggy :P |
| 02:18.47 | BulletCatcher | -srvmsg "" will generate one. |
| 02:18.50 | JeffM | what video card do you have? |
| 02:18.55 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, you can stack them up? |
| 02:18.58 | WillsParadise | it's a 4 year old mac mini |
| 02:19.10 | JeffM | WillsParadise, well there is your problem, intel onboard :) |
| 02:19.16 | BulletCatcher | Yes, multiple -srvmsg lines are shown in sequence. |
| 02:19.17 | WillsParadise | yeah |
| 02:19.25 | JeffM | ahh cool, I did not know that |
| 02:19.25 | WillsParadise | yeah but it will still send all messages at once though wont it? |
| 02:19.33 | JeffM | then yes WillsParadise it does work like that :) |
| 02:19.53 | JeffM | they should go as buffered messages |
| 02:19.55 | BulletCatcher | Or you can use \n within a single -srvmsg command to get multiple lines. |
| 02:19.55 | JeffM | one after the other |
| 02:19.57 | WillsParadise | id probably have to put the same message like 10x in a row - then 10 blank lines - then my second message 10x in a row |
| 02:20.10 | WillsParadise | \n is a linebreak? |
| 02:20.22 | JeffM | yeah |
| 02:20.25 | JeffM | newline |
| 02:20.34 | WillsParadise | perfect that will work |
| 02:20.41 | WillsParadise | didn't see that mentioned in the wiki |
| 02:21.29 | BulletCatcher | Repeat \n to get multiple blank lines. |
| 02:21.36 | JeffM | then you can add it to the wiki |
| 02:22.39 | WillsParadise | :P |
| 02:22.48 | JeffM | that is the awesome thing about a wiki |
| 02:23.40 | JeffM | and one of the problems with open source projects, people add stuff and not everyone knows about it :/ |
| 02:23.46 | JeffM | but then that's probably just been there forever |
| 02:24.37 | WillsParadise | this guy keeps changing to VPN and can some how freeze anyones bzflag client :/ |
| 02:25.00 | blast007 | oh the proxy guy is still around? |
| 02:25.09 | WillsParadise | not sure goes by "hurt feelings" |
| 02:25.14 | blast007 | heh |
| 02:25.19 | WillsParadise | also apparently "ho hum" or something |
| 02:25.43 | WillsParadise | i got his IP when he was on his home internet I think as it was a qwest IP |
| 02:25.52 | WillsParadise | but was back on another location |
| 02:26.01 | JeffM | yeah you can keep banning him or require registration |
| 02:26.32 | WillsParadise | seems like 80% of my people are registered but someone in here warned me it'd kill my server attendance |
| 02:26.44 | JeffM | only for jerks :) |
| 02:26.49 | blast007 | I did, but maybe it wouldn't be as bad anymore |
| 02:26.56 | JeffM | GUI runs reg only |
| 02:27.01 | WillsParadise | i mean he'd probably just register an account and keep it up |
| 02:27.02 | JeffM | it will have an effect sure |
| 02:27.06 | blast007 | I had suggested that before you mentioned you had mostly registered players |
| 02:27.13 | WillsParadise | ah |
| 02:27.14 | JeffM | WillsParadise, then you can ban him by ID |
| 02:27.17 | JeffM | and IP won't matter |
| 02:27.22 | WillsParadise | right now we have 7 and 5 are registered |
| 02:27.31 | WillsParadise | then can't he just change his ID? :P |
| 02:27.35 | JeffM | yeah |
| 02:27.39 | WillsParadise | just more work for him i guess |
| 02:27.43 | JeffM | he'd have to register a new account with a new email, etc... |
| 02:27.43 | blast007 | by making new accounts, yeah |
| 02:27.47 | WillsParadise | as he has to verify and make a new email and eblah blah |
| 02:28.03 | blast007 | yep, certainly more work than just changing to a different proxy |
| 02:28.08 | JeffM | yeah |
| 02:28.16 | WillsParadise | the guy can read messages people sent me as an admin somehow |
| 02:28.22 | WillsParadise | must have a tricked out client |
| 02:28.25 | JeffM | but welcome to the joy of running a popular server :) |
| 02:28.33 | blast007 | that's what I've heard, but I haven't been after to figure out how |
| 02:28.52 | WillsParadise | people were sending me messages via admin chat and he could literally recite what they were saying |
| 02:29.02 | WillsParadise | also direct ones to me too |
| 02:29.08 | blast007 | any thoughts on that one, JeffM? |
| 02:29.14 | JeffM | I'd have to look at the code |
| 02:29.28 | WillsParadise | he was even able to kick me off somehow when im "protected" |
| 02:29.44 | JeffM | did it have a kick message? |
| 02:29.47 | WillsParadise | no |
| 02:29.48 | JeffM | and do you have a server password? |
| 02:29.54 | WillsParadise | not anymore its all done thru groups |
| 02:30.20 | WillsParadise | my server password was not easily guessable though - had lots of characters random |
| 02:30.28 | WillsParadise | and im only one with @ access still |
| 02:30.35 | JeffM | well he can probalby kick you with just packets |
| 02:30.39 | JeffM | flood you out |
| 02:30.57 | WillsParadise | it was weird |
| 02:30.58 | JeffM | the admin chat I'd have to know if the server showed him having any permisions or not |
| 02:31.09 | JeffM | and you are running from GIT right? |
| 02:31.10 | WillsParadise | it was like i was NR |
| 02:31.17 | WillsParadise | git? |
| 02:31.17 | JeffM | yeah that's not hard to do |
| 02:31.27 | blast007 | the git version of the source code |
| 02:31.31 | WillsParadise | but then i couldnt get right back on |
| 02:31.35 | WillsParadise | i beleive so yes |
| 02:31.37 | JeffM | did you download a tarbal for the source or use a git client? |
| 02:31.41 | WillsParadise | git |
| 02:31.46 | JeffM | good |
| 02:32.00 | WillsParadise | 2.4.3 |
| 02:32.33 | WillsParadise | how can i check his permissions if he comes back? |
| 02:32.37 | WillsParadise | he usually comes in every night |
| 02:32.59 | JeffM | there is a command to list what rights the server thinks a player has |
| 02:33.59 | WillsParadise | is it /showperms ? |
| 02:34.22 | WillsParadise | showgroupLists the groups that a registered user is a member of |
| 02:34.22 | WillsParadise | /showpermsShow permissions granted to yourself or another player |
| 02:34.36 | WillsParadise | seems like those two might provide some info |
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| 02:35.26 | JeffM | yeah showperms |
| 02:35.39 | WillsParadise | argh - my console box keeps going to grey background until i die |
| 02:35.44 | WillsParadise | must be something with the beta os :P |
| 02:37.00 | WillsParadise | http://s21.postimg.org/ps1lnpuhz/bzfi0003.png |
| 02:37.14 | BulletCatcher | / |
| 02:37.33 | blast007 | could be related to fog + burrow |
| 02:37.40 | WillsParadise | even when not with bu |
| 02:37.52 | WillsParadise | let me turn fog off see if it happens |
| 02:38.41 | BulletCatcher | I can't see anything in the private chat code that would allow a PM to go to more than 1 player. |
| 02:38.55 | JeffM | how were people sending messages to you? with report? |
| 02:39.00 | BulletCatcher | Perhaps he has access to the logs. |
| 02:39.13 | JeffM | are you logging? |
| 02:39.18 | WillsParadise | he seemed to be able to read both the admin channel and direct but i doint know for sure |
| 02:39.26 | WillsParadise | umm |
| 02:39.32 | WillsParadise | only if logging is on by default |
| 02:39.35 | JeffM | it is not |
| 02:40.02 | WillsParadise | i can show you my cfg if it helps - but no logs |
| 02:40.06 | BulletCatcher | Logging is enabled by -d options to bzfs. |
| 02:40.11 | WillsParadise | let me look |
| 02:40.20 | JeffM | and then reirecting the output to a file or something |
| 02:40.54 | JeffM | but yeah sendChatMessage doesn't seem to have any obvious flaws |
| 02:41.02 | khonkhortisan | Hello NoTanksForMe, owner of WillsParadise - nice to see you in irc |
| 02:41.23 | WillsParadise | hi khonkhortisan |
| 02:41.30 | WillsParadise | BulletCatcher: Nope, no -d flag |
| 02:41.48 | JeffM | unless he's sending a change team message and setting it to the admin enum |
| 02:42.31 | blast007 | there isn't a team change message |
| 02:42.44 | JeffM | except at the start |
| 02:42.48 | JeffM | there is a requested team |
| 02:42.53 | blast007 | MsgEnter can't be sent twice |
| 02:42.56 | blast007 | we fixed that |
| 02:43.03 | khonkhortisan | and there's some sort of hack - or there was for changing teams |
| 02:43.04 | JeffM | what if he sends it at the start :) |
| 02:43.19 | JeffM | the hack is to force people to reconenct |
| 02:43.20 | blast007 | hmm |
| 02:43.35 | blast007 | we check the team now though, right? |
| 02:43.40 | JeffM | looking |
| 02:44.50 | JeffM | we do blindly unpack it |
| 02:45.15 | JeffM | but admin team is not in that enum, only the API enum |
| 02:45.21 | JeffM | so yeah I'd have to check perms |
| 02:45.41 | JeffM | or a bug regarding the old local auth code that was removed |
| 02:46.42 | WillsParadise | i can run it if i he gets on tonight |
| 02:46.44 | WillsParadise | he usually does |
| 02:46.46 | JeffM | WillsParadise, was he registered? |
| 02:47.45 | WillsParadise | nope |
| 02:47.47 | WillsParadise | never is |
| 02:48.01 | WillsParadise | hurt feelings and ho hum are two names he constantly uses |
| 02:48.08 | WillsParadise | ze bozz says he's seen it too |
| 02:49.28 | JeffM | oh I'm sure it's some bug we have somewhere |
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| 02:49.40 | JeffM | I just hope it's not at the authentication level |
| 02:50.39 | JeffM | I'd go reg only for a bit and see what that does |
| 02:50.48 | JeffM | if he gets by that I'd like to know |
| 02:51.03 | WillsParadise | so use another callsign? |
| 02:51.12 | JeffM | huh? |
| 02:51.18 | WillsParadise | ohh |
| 02:51.18 | WillsParadise | nm |
| 02:51.21 | WillsParadise | misread |
| 02:51.32 | WillsParadise | i might give it a try on next mainteannce |
| 02:51.34 | blast007 | well that'd just force him to create an account to play, but he can probably still to stuff without spawning |
| 02:51.37 | WillsParadise | i got 3 unreg right now |
| 02:51.40 | blast007 | do* |
| 02:51.53 | JeffM | possibly |
| 02:52.18 | blast007 | I know some of the things he does requires at least an initial spawn |
| 02:52.56 | blast007 | think he can mess with his player status to change to being dead and such |
| 02:53.09 | WillsParadise | he seems to have quite a few modifications |
| 02:53.15 | JeffM | that doesn't suprize me |
| 02:53.22 | JeffM | it's the chat thing that bothers me |
| 02:53.34 | WillsParadise | we saw him using wings abilities with GM - controlling velocity of shots without moving up or down |
| 02:53.39 | blast007 | yeah, he's big on finding things we didn't check |
| 02:53.41 | JeffM | sure that's super easy |
| 02:53.52 | JeffM | the gameplay is all done by the client |
| 02:53.57 | JeffM | so all of that is expected |
| 02:54.15 | JeffM | the chat is something we did move to the server so that's why I'm concerned with that |
| 02:54.23 | WillsParadise | ah |
| 02:54.51 | WillsParadise | someone said he can change color of his tank irrespective of his team color but i didnt witness that |
| 02:55.17 | blast007 | that one seems questionable |
| 02:55.17 | JeffM | the gameplay of bzflag is 2 kids playing cops and robbers shouting "bang" to each other. Each kid has to be honest and say "you got me" |
| 02:55.28 | JeffM | yeah that'd be odd |
| 02:55.41 | WillsParadise | someone swears he was like changing colors of rainbow |
| 02:55.52 | blast007 | they should probalby stop the drugs then |
| 02:55.58 | JeffM | there are only a few colors |
| 02:56.19 | WillsParadise | :P |
| 02:56.20 | JeffM | unless he can get past the multiple enter |
| 02:56.34 | WillsParadise | is each tank color a texture or done via a color code? |
| 02:56.59 | khonkhortisan | You can only use the standard textures you have locally, or the ones supplied by the server as far as I know |
| 02:57.08 | khonkhortisan | changing team colors very quickly could look rainbow |
| 02:57.29 | WillsParadise | but his score wasn't resetting |
| 02:58.28 | JeffM | checking something that bugs me in the code |
| 02:59.49 | JeffM | not a big fan of checking for double msgEnter by checking the name stored in auth |
| 03:00.02 | JeffM | I'm wondering if buffers could be tweaked to get around that |
| 03:00.16 | blast007 | that seems kinda ew |
| 03:02.05 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:02.26 | JeffM | I have a change I'm going to commit in a sec that I'm curious if will help |
| 03:03.51 | blast007 | making GameKeeper::Player have a bool that gets set when MsgEnter is received? |
| 03:03.59 | JeffM | yeah |
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| 03:05.22 | Not-cdc9 | [02bzflag-import-3] 07JeffM2501 pushed 031 commit to 03v2_4_x [+0/-0/±3] 13http://git.io/vUCHPw |
| 03:05.22 | Not-cdc9 | [02bzflag-import-3] 07JeffM2501 037c03882 - use a flag for double enter checks |
| 03:05.29 | JeffM | try that |
| 03:05.44 | WillsParadise | me? |
| 03:05.48 | JeffM | sure |
| 03:05.52 | WillsParadise | idk what to do |
| 03:06.03 | JeffM | git pull then rebuild |
| 03:06.22 | WillsParadise | ill have to do it later as servers busy right now |
| 03:06.24 | blast007 | WillsParadise: git pull --rebase |
| 03:06.25 | JeffM | the other issue is that he may be able to change anything in his player record due to a buffer exploit |
| 03:06.34 | blast007 | fun |
| 03:07.51 | JeffM | we'll see if he continues or not |
| 03:08.05 | JeffM | at the very least we need to assume that he knows about the change, due to logs |
| 03:08.19 | JeffM | so if it's a buffer thing he'll just have to add an offset to his overflow stuff |
| 03:08.39 | WillsParadise | he hasn't shown his pretty face yet |
| 03:09.05 | JeffM | if it IS a buffer thing I do have a cheeky idea that could be interesting |
| 03:09.13 | JeffM | but then he'd probalby just crash the server |
| 03:09.31 | WillsParadise | if he crashes my server im going to colorado to crash him :P |
| 03:09.44 | JeffM | what makes you think he's in colorado? |
| 03:09.54 | WillsParadise | thats where his ip traced to yesterday |
| 03:10.02 | WillsParadise | wasn't a VPN |
| 03:10.13 | WillsParadise | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.32 | JeffM | probalby still a proxy |
| 03:11.14 | WillsParadise | ze bozz said that same ip had accessed his server a couple days ago |
| 03:11.20 | WillsParadise | you think if he was on a proxy it'd keep same IP for that long? |
| 03:11.26 | JeffM | enet will solve a lot of the proxy issues, but I have to redo my implementation, it didn't work right :( |
| 03:11.44 | JeffM | he'll keep it untill you ban it :) |
| 03:11.57 | WillsParadise | well ze bozz banned it |
| 03:12.02 | WillsParadise | but was using it on my server later |
| 03:12.09 | blast007 | I was excited a few days ago.. got a client to partially read a MsgDialogCreate ;) |
| 03:12.17 | JeffM | heh |
| 03:13.07 | blast007 | was stumped for a while as to why I kept getting 0 for the dialogID, then realized I was unpacking it as an unsigned short instead of an unsigned int |
| 03:13.53 | blast007 | probably also explains why I was getting some crazy data when I tried unpacking the std::string title that was the next piece of data |
| 03:14.39 | JeffM | yea you have to be careful with that |
| 03:14.42 | blast007 | or maybe that was somewhere else.. been a few days since I looked at it ;) |
| 03:16.38 | JeffM | another thing to try would be for server owners to randomly rearange the player record |
| 03:16.44 | JeffM | then the bins will be different |
| 03:18.41 | JeffM | I recall there being a setting in VC that would randomize memory locations to help make buffer stuff harder for the attacker |
| 03:18.54 | JeffM | but that won't help most people |
| 03:20.42 | WillsParadise | server is only about 50% registered right now |
| 03:20.49 | WillsParadise | 6/6 |
| 03:20.57 | JeffM | update your code and see what that does |
| 03:21.08 | WillsParadise | k ill do it over night |
| 03:21.30 | WillsParadise | all i do is git pull --rebase ? |
| 03:21.39 | blast007 | that just gets the new code |
| 03:21.47 | JeffM | then compile again |
| 03:21.50 | blast007 | then you have to build the server like usual |
| 03:22.07 | WillsParadise | ill have someone walk me thru it once i go to do it :P |
| 03:22.19 | blast007 | just read the README.Linux again ;) |
| 03:22.28 | JeffM | it's the same thing you did the first time |
| 03:29.05 | WillsParadise | k |
| 03:29.18 | WillsParadise | wonder if my server can handle more then 16 |
| 03:29.24 | WillsParadise | server is full with 2 obs |
| 03:31.26 | JeffM | heh, we have buffer overflow checking but nobody checks for buffer overflow errors |
| 03:42.11 | WillsParadise | this is going to be the one night the guy doesnt get on |
| 03:58.10 | JeffM | he probably lurks here and knows |
| 04:28.36 | WillsParadise | is there any leniency in the tankspeed? |
| 04:28.49 | WillsParadise | i.e. its set at 30 and extended observer info shows someone going 30.5 |
| 04:29.13 | JeffM | ohh yeah it's a wild guess |
| 04:29.21 | JeffM | observer info is not accruate at all |
| 04:29.26 | WillsParadise | ahh we were trying to check - as he was catching up to people with SW |
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| 04:29.53 | JeffM | there is no way for you to get an accurate speed |
| 04:29.56 | WillsParadise | seems to be going a bit faster then everyone else but dont know how to prove |
| 04:29.59 | JeffM | not one that takes lag into account |
| 04:30.12 | JeffM | you cant prove it |
| 04:30.16 | WillsParadise | yeah :/ |
| 04:30.18 | JeffM | the game isn't desgined that way |
| 04:30.28 | JeffM | if the game could prove it, it would prevent it |
| 04:31.01 | WillsParadise | yeah |
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| 14:53.23 | WillsParadise | time to install your update JeffM |
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| 19:08.03 | WillsParadise | blast007 or JeffM available? |
| 19:12.52 | blast007 | sup? |
| 19:14.29 | blast007 | (generally better to just ask the actual question as well, because you could have maybe had an answer by now) |
| 19:17.25 | WillsParadise | :P |
| 19:17.43 | WillsParadise | What is the git link for the rebase? |
| 19:18.26 | tw1sted | ~bzgit |
| 19:18.26 | infobot | methinks bzgit is git clone --branch v2_4_x https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag-import-3.git bzflag |
| 19:18.52 | WillsParadise | ok so its same - I was looking at it online and it doesn't mention an update from this week |
| 19:19.22 | WillsParadise | github says last commit was in december |
| 19:19.27 | tw1sted | shows a commit from yesterday to me |
| 19:19.29 | tw1sted | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag-import-3/commits/v2_4_x |
| 19:19.57 | blast007 | WillsParadise: you don't need the link for the rebase |
| 19:20.00 | WillsParadise | hmmm |
| 19:20.02 | blast007 | git pull --rebase |
| 19:20.05 | blast007 | in the source directory |
| 19:20.18 | WillsParadise | ah in src directory |
| 19:20.27 | blast007 | not src/ |
| 19:20.33 | blast007 | I mean in the checkout directory |
| 19:21.41 | WillsParadise | says I can't pull as I have unstaged changes |
| 19:24.33 | blast007 | did you change any of the source code? |
| 19:24.38 | blast007 | git diff |
| 19:24.53 | WillsParadise | no |
| 19:25.05 | blast007 | and 'git diff' shows nothing? |
| 19:25.19 | WillsParadise | umm |
| 19:25.33 | WillsParadise | looks like its showing bzfs.conf |
| 19:25.44 | blast007 | you're not using that, right? |
| 19:26.07 | WillsParadise | no im using myconfig.conf |
| 19:26.12 | WillsParadise | made from scratch |
| 19:26.24 | WillsParadise | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.25 | blast007 | git checkout misc/bzfs.conf |
| 19:30.32 | blast007 | then do the pull again |
| 19:31.09 | WillsParadise | says same |
| 19:31.18 | WillsParadise | "Please commit or stash" |
| 19:31.46 | blast007 | does the diff still show that misc/bzfs.conf is changed? |
| 19:32.14 | WillsParadise | now it's saying groups.conf |
| 19:32.26 | blast007 | then do the same for groups |
| 19:32.27 | WillsParadise | I am using groups.conf |
| 19:32.30 | WillsParadise | if it matters |
| 19:32.49 | WillsParadise | but its just willsparadise.owner: all hideadmin |
| 19:32.49 | blast007 | you're using /root/bzflag/misc/groups.conf from your unprivileged user? |
| 19:32.57 | WillsParadise | yes |
| 19:33.00 | blast007 | how? |
| 19:33.06 | WillsParadise | what do you mean? |
| 19:33.13 | WillsParadise | im logged in as root right now |
| 19:33.29 | blast007 | but your normal user should not be able to read anything within /root/ |
| 19:33.36 | WillsParadise | it can't |
| 19:33.40 | WillsParadise | thats why im logged in as root |
| 19:33.51 | blast007 | so who is running bzfs? root, or your normal user? |
| 19:34.01 | WillsParadise | my normal user now |
| 19:34.04 | blast007 | then you're not using /root/bzflag/misc/groups.conf |
| 19:34.18 | WillsParadise | i have to be |
| 19:34.25 | WillsParadise | its the only configuration with the group list |
| 19:34.37 | blast007 | what does your bzfs config show for the groupdb? |
| 19:34.44 | WillsParadise | same with config is in /root/bzfs/misc |
| 19:34.54 | WillsParadise | let me look |
| 19:35.22 | WillsParadise | groups.conf |
| 19:35.37 | WillsParadise | it's showing /root/bzflag/misc/groups.conf |
| 19:36.04 | blast007 | so you hae a 'groups.conf' file located in your normal user's home directory, specifically in the current working directory? |
| 19:36.15 | WillsParadise | no it's in root |
| 19:36.29 | WillsParadise | i have nothing in my home directory |
| 19:37.35 | WillsParadise | maybe I am running it wrong |
| 19:37.49 | WillsParadise | when I go to start server - i login to normal user and sudo bzfs -conf /root/bzflag/misc/myconfig.conf |
| 19:38.32 | blast007 | sudo runs it as root ..... |
| 19:38.36 | WillsParadise | oh |
| 19:38.49 | WillsParadise | well - should I move the bzflag server into my home directory? |
| 19:38.59 | blast007 | get your config and groupdb into the normal user directory and run it without sudo |
| 19:41.17 | WillsParadise | ok - i can move it altogether right? |
| 19:41.48 | blast007 | copy it |
| 19:41.57 | blast007 | and then chown it to your user |
| 19:42.01 | blast007 | your normal user |
| 19:45.15 | kierra | this isnt the DR cheater then |
| 19:45.19 | WillsParadise | blast007: done |
| 19:46.03 | blast007 | kierra: talking about the previous day's comment about the qwest IP? |
| 19:46.09 | kierra | yes |
| 19:46.21 | kierra | he used proxies with US location |
| 19:46.24 | blast007 | WillsParadise: k, now git checkout misc/groups.conf |
| 19:46.49 | blast007 | kierra: a qwest IP is just as likely a proxy as any others |
| 19:47.04 | kierra | correct |
| 19:47.26 | blast007 | so what makes you think it isn't the DR cheater? |
| 19:47.28 | kierra | seems I recall WP banning a qwest ip on mofo for cheating a while back |
| 19:47.34 | kierra | didnt say that, dear |
| 19:47.44 | blast007 | "this isnt the DR cheater then" |
| 19:47.45 | kierra | forgot the ? |
| 19:47.57 | WillsParadise | blast007: ok , I think i rebased successfully |
| 19:47.59 | kierra | bec it sounds like his tricks |
| 19:48.14 | blast007 | kierra: yeah, likely the same one |
| 19:48.25 | blast007 | WillsParadise: okay, then build now ;) |
| 19:48.47 | WillsParadise | do i need to run autogen and configure or just make? |
| 19:49.13 | blast007 | for this change, probably just make and make install |
| 19:49.17 | WillsParadise | k |
| 19:49.22 | blast007 | I don't think the build system was touched |
| 19:49.35 | WillsParadise | making now |
| 19:50.13 | WillsParadise | so now I will just login with normal user and bzfs -conf myconfig.conf since it's in home folder? |
| 19:51.12 | JeffM | WillsParadise, I'm back from lunch, do I need to read any of that stuff? :) |
| 19:51.21 | WillsParadise | nope |
| 19:51.24 | JeffM | yayh |
| 19:51.26 | WillsParadise | just finishing installing your update |
| 19:51.30 | JeffM | cool |
| 19:51.35 | WillsParadise | looks like it built successfully |
| 19:51.43 | JeffM | I hope it helps |
| 19:51.51 | WillsParadise | i guess ill have to somehow bait him to see |
| 19:52.02 | WillsParadise | bring another clone account in and talk crap abou thim to admin or something :P |
| 19:52.42 | WillsParadise | see if he reacts |
| 19:54.52 | WillsParadise | since i moved my config and groups.conf to my home folder - i can update the groupdb to just say "groups.conf" correct? It's in relation to the config file so no full path necessary |
| 19:58.26 | *** join/#bzflag swigg (~Paul@bzflag/player/Swigg) |
| 19:59.21 | *** join/#bzflag rob1n (~rob1n@unaffiliated/rob1n) |
| 20:03.27 | blast007 | yes |
| 20:03.55 | blast007 | long as you're currently in the directory that contains the file |
| 20:04.02 | WillsParadise | gotcha |
| 20:04.05 | WillsParadise | last question |
| 20:04.09 | WillsParadise | (for now) |
| 20:04.29 | WillsParadise | if a server variable defaults to being a multiple of another var.. i.e. 2 * _boxBase |
| 20:04.40 | WillsParadise | if I set the var to 3.. does it default to 3 * the var or just 3? |
| 20:04.52 | blast007 | just 3 |
| 20:04.56 | WillsParadise | in other words - do i need to specify that it's 3 * _boxBase or just put 3 |
| 20:05.09 | blast007 | if you set it to 3 * _boxBase, then it will be 3 times the _boxBase |
| 20:05.26 | blast007 | (but keep in mind you'll have to use double quotes around the value) |
| 20:05.30 | WillsParadise | i still want the variable to be in relation to boxbase |
| 20:06.25 | WillsParadise | -set _avenueSize "2.5*_boxBase" |
| 20:06.25 | blast007 | read my last two lines again ;) |
| 20:06.28 | WillsParadise | correct? |
| 20:06.30 | blast007 | probably |
| 20:06.37 | blast007 | try it |
| 20:06.40 | WillsParadise | k |
| 20:06.44 | WillsParadise | moment of truth |
| 20:06.54 | blast007 | then /diff will show non-default vars |
| 20:07.06 | WillsParadise | well server seemed to start |
| 20:07.10 | WillsParadise | let me take a look in game |
| 20:07.39 | WillsParadise | hmm error connecting to server |
| 20:07.48 | WillsParadise | oh wait it didn't start |
| 20:07.55 | WillsParadise | bad argument "passwd" |
| 20:08.12 | WillsParadise | ah the - got removed infront of it |
| 20:08.23 | WillsParadise | but I guess I dont need -passwd at all now that I have groups |
| 20:08.28 | blast007 | right ;) |
| 20:08.44 | WillsParadise | bad argument : |
| 20:08.45 | WillsParadise | ugh |
| 20:09.00 | WillsParadise | wish it told me what line |
| 20:09.18 | blast007 | one of the reasons I mentioned to change only a couple things at a time and test |
| 20:09.26 | WillsParadise | i did :P |
| 20:09.37 | WillsParadise | woohoo got it |
| 20:09.48 | blast007 | then it's one of the one or two things you changed. should be easy to work out which. |
| 20:10.38 | WillsParadise | geez two people beat me in the server somehow |
| 20:10.50 | blast007 | heh |
| 20:11.19 | WillsParadise | looks like I used _avenueSize right - it calculated it spot oin |
| 20:12.10 | WillsParadise | that \n param didn't work for serv message though |
| 20:12.29 | WillsParadise | or maybe I misunderstood |
| 20:13.43 | blast007 | worked for me. -srvmsg "Line one\nLine2\nLine3" |
| 20:13.46 | WillsParadise | well |
| 20:13.54 | WillsParadise | i thought it would show onscreen both lines at same time |
| 20:14.07 | WillsParadise | it does break it up in console |
| 20:14.13 | blast007 | nope, it's just a different way of having multiple -srvmsg |
| 20:14.25 | WillsParadise | Im trying to get both lines to show for say 3sec each |
| 20:14.33 | blast007 | can't |
| 20:14.37 | WillsParadise | :( |
| 20:14.49 | blast007 | not until maybe BZFlag 2.6 |
| 20:14.58 | blast007 | then you could have a dialog ;) |
| 20:15.13 | WillsParadise | it'd be nice if there was just something you could do like -srvmsg wait |
| 20:15.30 | WillsParadise | or a timer for between |
| 20:15.30 | JeffM | probably not |
| 20:15.37 | JeffM | dialogs are where it's at |
| 20:15.57 | JeffM | chat logs are so 1990 |
| 20:17.27 | WillsParadise | wasn't there a setting that allows to send a timed message on screen? |
| 20:17.57 | blast007 | a countdown timer? ;) |
| 20:18.01 | blast007 | cuz we have that |
| 20:19.04 | WillsParadise | you mean countdown resume timer? |
| 20:19.25 | blast007 | no, a server countdown timer, as in, to the end of a game |
| 20:19.31 | WillsParadise | oh |
| 20:19.47 | WillsParadise | no i thought as I was reading somewhere there was an option to display a message on screen at a set interval |
| 20:19.59 | blast007 | -admsg displays every 15 minutes |
| 20:20.16 | blast007 | but that again acts like -srvmsg, just on an interval instead of at join |
| 20:20.22 | WillsParadise | that's fine |
| 20:20.33 | WillsParadise | i just want to put a note that it's Open FFA so colors != teams |
| 20:20.45 | WillsParadise | tired of people screaming TK! or whatever :P |
| 20:21.09 | blast007 | or really confuse people and make it so that there's only red tanks ;) |
| 20:21.18 | WillsParadise | lol |
| 20:21.25 | JeffM | write a plugin that tells them when they were killed by the same color that it wasn't a TK :) |
| 20:21.29 | WillsParadise | i need to restrict polling - bastards were trying to change to mirror |
| 20:21.34 | WillsParadise | and magenta skys |
| 20:21.39 | JeffM | polling is stupid |
| 20:21.42 | WillsParadise | yes |
| 20:21.43 | JeffM | it should be removed entirely |
| 20:21.45 | blast007 | poll set should be removed |
| 20:21.47 | WillsParadise | agreed |
| 20:22.00 | WillsParadise | can I not disable it? |
| 20:22.03 | blast007 | you can |
| 20:22.10 | blast007 | there's a POLLSET permission, iirc |
| 20:22.18 | WillsParadise | oh.. |
| 20:22.25 | WillsParadise | i searched server variables for poll but found nothing |
| 20:22.45 | JeffM | it's not a variable |
| 20:23.37 | blast007 | here's what I use (and the -ALL may be unnecessary.. dunno): |
| 20:23.39 | blast007 | EVERYONE: -ALL ACTIONMESSAGE ADMINMESSAGESEND DATE FLAGHISTORY IDLESTATS LAGSTATS PRIVATEMESSAGE SPAWN TALK |
| 20:23.43 | blast007 | VERIFIED: -ALL *EVERYONE REQUIREIDENTIFY POLL POLLBAN POLLKICK VOTE |
| 20:24.38 | blast007 | I think REQUIREIDENTIFY may be unnecessary now as well.. think 2.4 always requires proper auth for registered names |
| 20:25.06 | WillsParadise | verified = registered? |
| 20:25.24 | blast007 | registered and properly authentication |
| 20:25.24 | JeffM | verified is what happenes when a registered name is authenticated |
| 20:25.39 | WillsParadise | so you allow registered people to poll? |
| 20:25.49 | blast007 | to do normal polls, yes |
| 20:25.51 | blast007 | not poll set |
| 20:25.52 | JeffM | but NOT Polset |
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| 20:29.07 | WillsParadise | ah ok that's what I want |
| 20:29.14 | WillsParadise | so these go in the groups config right? |
| 20:29.25 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:29.40 | WillsParadise | everyone and verified are global groups not something server specific right? |
| 20:34.22 | *** join/#bzflag Constitution (~josh@bzflag/developer/Constitution) |
| 20:38.55 | JeffM | everyone is anyone who conencts |
| 20:39.04 | JeffM | and sends an enter message |
| 20:39.16 | JeffM | verified is anyone who properly authenticates with the global system |
| 20:40.08 | JeffM | so what his groups are saying is that anyone who conencts can spawn (play) and chat |
| 20:40.17 | JeffM | but if you are registered you get to do more things |
| 20:45.15 | WillsParadise | what does it mean when someone doesn't have a host on the playerlist - only an IP? |
| 20:46.17 | WillsParadise | hm IP traces ot Fdcservers.net |
| 20:46.28 | WillsParadise | so probably a VPN |
| 20:46.38 | WillsParadise | as it's a server hosting company |
| 20:47.53 | WillsParadise | wonder if its the hacker guy |
| 20:54.11 | JeffM | it means the reverse DNS didn't work |
| 20:54.16 | JeffM | not all IPs resolve correctly |
| 20:54.37 | WillsParadise | the IP is tracing to that datacenter |
| 20:54.44 | JeffM | mayube |
| 20:54.51 | JeffM | but it happens even on nomral connections |
| 20:55.06 | WillsParadise | P AddressCountryRegionCityISP |
| 20:55.07 | WillsParadise | 50.7.149.2United StatesIllinoisChicagoFdcservers.net |
| 21:15.42 | blast007 | and yeah, a player IP in a datacenter usually means a proxy/VPN ;) |
| 21:16.04 | WillsParadise | yeah |
| 21:16.11 | WillsParadise | apparently he was PM'ing other users asking weird things |
| 21:16.27 | WillsParadise | like if his tank looked funny |
| 21:16.56 | blast007 | "Funny like a clown? Do I amuse you?" |
| 21:19.57 | JeffM | that would make sense if he was sending multiple msgEnters |
| 21:20.02 | JeffM | and that would not work anymore |
| 21:20.27 | JeffM | I'd really like to see the binary representation of what name he sends too |
| 21:25.17 | WillsParadise | i did the permission command on him and it was same as a normal user |
| 21:25.27 | WillsParadise | i dont think it was the guy in question though - he acted differently |
| 21:26.19 | JeffM | k |
| 21:26.30 | WillsParadise | this persons name was uh |
| 21:26.34 | WillsParadise | Rhonda Lewpinsky |
| 21:26.38 | WillsParadise | :P |
| 21:26.42 | JeffM | that is not the binary representation |
| 21:27.02 | WillsParadise | huh? |
| 21:27.55 | JeffM | I want to see the memory that he sends in his packets |
| 21:28.10 | JeffM | my guess is there are some nonprintable characters in it or some other BS at the start |
| 21:28.23 | WillsParadise | which person? The original guy from last night or person just now |
| 21:28.49 | JeffM | the origonal |
| 21:28.59 | WillsParadise | how do I find that when he's logged oN? |
| 21:29.00 | JeffM | but don't worry it's not any kind of data you can get |
| 21:29.04 | WillsParadise | oh |
| 21:30.58 | WillsParadise | how do I switch tanks I am observing? |
| 21:31.47 | WillsParadise | ah f6/f7 |
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