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| 00:36.01 | blast007 | JeffM: does not seem like you can reuse a shot abbreviation. The geno effect still triggers even though I registered the G type. |
| 00:42.46 | swigg | An imposter!!! |
| 00:43.14 | swigg | Someone has replaced the real JeffM |
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| 02:03.33 | jeffm | blast007, that sucks |
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| 06:12.32 | Notify | 03BZFlag:bullet_catcher * 22807 trunk/bzflag/configure.ac: Revert r22806 and add the appropriate -std= compiler option to user_CXXFLAGS so it will be present in debug mode. |
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| 08:55.12 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Madelaine * 0 /User:Madelaine: |
| 11:09.54 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: just curious, but why is that the only situation where we directly modify user_CXXFLAGS? |
| 11:18.49 | blast007 | looks like it might be the only place we modify CXX_FLAGS as well, except when we restore user_CXXFLAGS into CXXFLAGS |
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| 14:20.16 | BulletCatcher | blast007: When -std=c++0x is required, adding it to CXXFLAGS rather than CONF_CXXFLAGS means that it will be used when doing all of the other configure tests. |
| 14:20.17 | BulletCatcher | This lets configure successfully test for the std::shared_ptr type, for example. |
| 14:22.37 | BulletCatcher | The compiler options we put in CONF_CXXFLAGS don't affect the tests for system features. |
| 14:25.41 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Bullet Catcher * 0 /User:Madelaine: Vandalism: spam |
| 14:26.36 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Bullet Catcher * 0 /User:Madelaine: Spamming links to external sites |
| 14:29.19 | BulletCatcher | Notify is less verbose than before for wiki changes. |
| 14:29.53 | BulletCatcher | The first was to delete the user page content, the second was blocking further changes by that account. |
| 14:30.03 | blast007 | probably just needs a rewritten extension |
| 14:30.15 | blast007 | the CIANotify one was designed for a much older version of mediawiki |
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| 17:41.52 | Snake12534 | Is khonkhortisan here? |
| 17:42.23 | blast007 | Snake12534: do you not have a user list in your client? |
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| 17:43.17 | Snake12534 | khonkhortisan! |
| 17:43.30 | khonkhortisan | hi |
| 17:43.49 | Snake12534 | Lol, I /msg your name 10x |
| 17:44.08 | Snake12534 | brb someone wants me on gu O.o |
| 17:44.11 | blast007 | lulz |
| 17:44.33 | swigg | someone actually *wants* you? |
| 17:44.48 | Snake12534 | yes |
| 17:44.51 | Snake12534 | I am in middle of FM. |
| 17:44.55 | Snake12534 | and I am talking here... lol |
| 17:45.07 | Snake12534 | ok I should get back before t-roy gets upset |
| 17:45.12 | swigg | snake: he is PMing me with "Oh god what does snake want"? |
| 17:46.19 | blast007 | Snake12534: in the middle of FM? so, somewhere around 97.75 MHz? |
| 17:49.51 | Snake12534 | Millihertz? |
| 17:50.13 | swigg | Only if you just got out of the pool |
| 17:51.36 | swigg | and it only hertz a little |
| 17:53.09 | JeffM | wtf? |
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| 18:14.29 | Snake12534 | Morning TimRiker |
| 18:15.06 | khonkhortisan | UGT |
| 18:15.31 | Snake12534 | Universal Greeting Tme |
| 18:15.39 | Snake12534 | Where's the UGT bot? |
| 18:15.52 | khonkhortisan | not everyone likes it |
| 18:16.02 | Snake12534 | I do. |
| 18:16.04 | blast007 | under your bed. waiting for you to fall asleep. |
| 18:16.12 | Snake12534 | I like that |
| 18:16.14 | khonkhortisan | GOOD NIGHT SNAKE |
| 18:16.19 | Snake12534 | my friend told me that |
| 18:16.23 | Snake12534 | the boogie monster |
| 18:16.31 | Snake12534 | it's not night time here - UGT |
| 18:16.47 | Snake12534 | the boogie monster eats your *private* clothes |
| 18:17.07 | blast007 | so anyway, bzflag |
| 18:17.16 | Snake12534 | bzflag |
| 18:17.19 | Snake12534 | is |
| 18:17.21 | Snake12534 | good. |
| 18:17.49 | Snake12534 | There's nothing to talk about bzflag... |
| 18:18.52 | blast007 | sure there is |
| 18:19.00 | Snake12534 | like? :) |
| 18:19.22 | blast007 | like the progress on the development of the new bzflag server configuration generator |
| 18:19.29 | Snake12534 | hmmm |
| 18:19.31 | Snake12534 | No idea. |
| 18:19.38 | Snake12534 | I rather PM someone and talk to them about life |
| 18:19.48 | Snake12534 | and girlfriends and boyfriends blah blah I rather go on fb |
| 18:23.19 | allejo | wtf... |
| 18:24.13 | swigg | Snake: Do you have a girlfriend or boyfriend? |
| 18:24.19 | blast007 | we don't care |
| 18:24.23 | blast007 | post it on fb |
| 18:24.38 | swigg | Ok... Bz related |
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| 18:24.43 | Snake12534_ | sorry my client crashed or something |
| 18:24.47 | swigg | Removal of geno |
| 18:24.50 | allejo | Oh great. There's two now |
| 18:25.07 | Snake12534_ | anything from 5 mins ago, I did not recieve3 |
| 18:25.12 | blast007 | nope |
| 18:25.23 | swigg | aw heck, and we told you so much in that time |
| 18:25.41 | Snake12534_ | really? |
| 18:25.51 | Snake12534_ | Blast was talking about the creation of bzflag |
| 18:25.53 | Snake12534_ | and I missed it all :( |
| 18:26.01 | alezakos | Was he> |
| 18:26.09 | swigg | Blast gets paid by the hour |
| 18:26.10 | Snake12534_ | yes sir |
| 18:26.13 | alezakos | s/>/? |
| 18:26.18 | allejo | So anyway... Removal of geno... It would just be replaced by a plugin wouldn't it? |
| 18:26.21 | Snake12534_ | Blast gets paid by commission |
| 18:26.23 | blast007 | pretty sure I was reading a user manual for a managed switch |
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| 18:27.35 | swigg | Ok. if geno were to be removed, how would it be implimented on existing maps? |
| 18:28.06 | alezakos | Would replacing geno with a plugin make any difference? Server owners would just load the plugin instead of doing the +f G |
| 18:28.28 | swigg | Alezakos: Yes; some owners hate plugins |
| 18:28.59 | allejo | Removing geno would require a proto break so maps wouldn't matter they'd have to update anyway |
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| 18:29.33 | swigg | I was thinking of removing something that rarely (if ever) gets used... /superkill |
| 18:29.49 | allejo | alezakos, they still need +G after they load the plugin |
| 18:30.12 | swigg | I guess if the plugin were implimented by default |
| 18:30.21 | swigg | It would be the same diff |
| 18:30.43 | allejo | It wouldn't be loaded by default. The point of a plugin is to have it be optional |
| 18:31.07 | swigg | But why chop it out? What is wrong with it? |
| 18:31.19 | blast007 | swigg: it would be implemented by loading a plugin and referring to it the same way in maps and configurations |
| 18:31.53 | blast007 | geno is the only flag in the game that you cannot defend against, or am I wrong? |
| 18:32.02 | blast007 | Laser has Cloak, GM has ST |
| 18:32.32 | swigg | Yes.. you can defend the same way you defend regular bullets, with SH |
| 18:32.58 | blast007 | so if your teammate gets hit with G, a SH flag saves you from geno? |
| 18:33.12 | swigg | hmmm.. you got me there |
| 18:33.26 | blast007 | it's just a mean flag |
| 18:33.38 | swigg | who invented the thing? |
| 18:33.40 | blast007 | did you read the recent forum thread? |
| 18:33.50 | blast007 | it was in the game before it was open sourced, iirc |
| 18:34.05 | swigg | The forums are daunting to keep up with |
| 18:34.12 | blast007 | no they aren't |
| 18:34.22 | swigg | well not for you! |
| 18:34.33 | blast007 | there's only a few posts a day at most, and most of those are in forums you can't read anyway |
| 18:34.41 | blast007 | it's not as active as it used to be |
| 18:34.58 | blast007 | I mean, there's probably 5 to 20 public posts a week |
| 18:35.11 | swigg | hmm.. a lot of the old schoolers say geno ruined the game |
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| 18:35.19 | Snake12534_ | Hi |
| 18:35.23 | swigg | bye |
| 18:35.25 | allejo | bye |
| 18:35.36 | blast007 | ollǝɥ |
| 18:35.43 | allejo | lol |
| 18:35.54 | Snake12534_ | group of haters |
| 18:36.13 | allejo | Pretty much |
| 18:36.27 | swigg | Serpent, que faites-vous ici? |
| 18:36.52 | allejo | yawns |
| 18:36.56 | blast007 | Out of the frying pan and into the.. lava. |
| 18:37.08 | swigg | I hear ya, satan |
| 18:37.16 | blast007 | I do my taxes one leg at a time like everyone else. |
| 18:37.57 | allejo | What's the actual thought and enthusiasm of a proto break in the near future? Slim to none still? |
| 18:38.24 | swigg | Allejo: Wasn't the schism from 2.0.x bad enough? |
| 18:38.35 | blast007 | swigg: it's a necessary evil |
| 18:38.48 | blast007 | we can't implement too much new stuff without a proto break |
| 18:39.00 | swigg | Oh sure, but if you look at some of the changes, some maps haven't even fixed the teleporters yet |
| 18:39.07 | blast007 | side effect of the game client having too much of a brain |
| 18:39.15 | blast007 | well, that's just lazy server owners |
| 18:39.27 | blast007 | all it takes is removing the 'name' line from the teleporters |
| 18:39.56 | blast007 | I wrote out a possible plan for the next breaking release |
| 18:40.28 | blast007 | http://wiki.bzflag.org/DevelopmentPlans/2.6.0 |
| 18:40.52 | swigg | I think a true "admin only" client would be a good step |
| 18:41.00 | blast007 | pfft |
| 18:41.08 | swigg | make it easy to cross IP's and update maps, etc |
| 18:41.17 | blast007 | yeah, cuz THAT will fix the end-user issues |
| 18:41.39 | blast007 | forget about making the game easy to learn. what we need is better IP lookups! |
| 18:41.40 | swigg | well, it would make it easier to catch cheaters and nick swappers |
| 18:41.58 | alezakos | Actually, there are plans for a webAdmin plugin |
| 18:41.59 | blast007 | or forget about that and focus on how to get more players. |
| 18:42.14 | swigg | admins are superusers. we need more fetures |
| 18:42.17 | blast007 | alezakos: doesn't do what swigg is talking about though |
| 18:42.38 | swigg | Thumper had a pretty good system |
| 18:42.39 | blast007 | swigg: if there are no players, then we won't need admins :P |
| 18:43.00 | swigg | *groan* where is argooon nwhen I need him? |
| 18:43.13 | blast007 | so put your grand "super admin interface" on the sideline for now and think about what the game *really* needs right now |
| 18:43.29 | swigg | Oh, I agree totally |
| 18:43.37 | blast007 | it needs better tools to help new users learn how to play |
| 18:43.53 | blast007 | tutorials, tooltips, dialogs |
| 18:44.02 | swigg | demo maps and a 'newbie corral' |
| 18:44.32 | blast007 | a "tutorial" menu option that joins them to a project run tutorial server |
| 18:44.43 | swigg | I guess I could get Benfish to put up a newbie map |
| 18:44.50 | blast007 | it's not like I don't have some spare bandwidth |
| 18:45.14 | swigg | Blast007: you could do that with a replay server |
| 18:45.24 | blast007 | a replay server doesn't let you play |
| 18:45.35 | swigg | yes, but it would demonstrate |
| 18:45.53 | blast007 | so would a youtube video. it's not the same though. |
| 18:46.07 | swigg | I mean, it would be easier do to that with existing tools |
| 18:46.14 | alezakos | Server side players might be able to demonstrate as well |
| 18:46.33 | swigg | rather than revamp/rewrite |
| 18:46.42 | blast007 | last month I used 445GB out of my 5TB |
| 18:46.54 | blast007 | I have spare bandwidth to run some tutorial style servers |
| 18:47.19 | swigg | I bet the Bzagency guys would be game for that if they are still around |
| 18:47.28 | blast007 | huh? |
| 18:47.45 | blast007 | the tutorial servers I'm talking about require a proto change |
| 18:47.51 | swigg | it was a bunch of newbie admin types still eager to do stuff |
| 18:48.15 | swigg | they could not get a foot in the door, so they made their own club |
| 18:48.17 | blast007 | no, it would be automated.... |
| 18:49.26 | swigg | You could implement it with a server at the top of listserv titled 'New to the game? Start here!" |
| 18:49.35 | blast007 | no. |
| 18:49.43 | blast007 | you don't understand. |
| 18:49.51 | blast007 | It NEEDS features that 2.4 does NOT have. |
| 18:50.05 | swigg | I get it; I'm just trying to figure a way to do it with what is currently at hand |
| 18:50.18 | blast007 | So if we already need to break proto, why hack it into the list? Make it a proper menu item. |
| 18:50.38 | swigg | I mean: if you are on the side of the road and only have vice grips and a screwdriver you have to get home with the tools available |
| 18:51.57 | swigg | Not to say both things could not be done in the meantime |
| 18:52.11 | swigg | One for now, the other in the future |
| 18:52.41 | blast007 | you can't implement much of a tutorial into 2.4 right now |
| 18:53.02 | blast007 | I mean, you could tell them to do stuff, but you can't easily check if they *did* it |
| 18:53.31 | blast007 | we could probably get shot tracking working enough in 2.4 to see if they shot a target though |
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| 18:53.46 | khonkhortisan | ^ I want that |
| 18:54.07 | swigg_ | and a new ISP would greatly help my connection issues |
| 18:54.09 | blast007 | swigg: have you considered getting a new modem/router? |
| 18:54.12 | blast007 | :P |
| 18:54.24 | blast007 | my charter is quite stable |
| 18:54.29 | swigg_ | I need a sledgehammer for my current one |
| 18:56.23 | Snake12534_ | BRB |
| 18:56.25 | Snake12534_ | sorry caps |
| 18:56.31 | swigg_ | don't hurry back |
| 18:56.48 | Snake12534 | I am back |
| 18:56.53 | swigg_ | greeeeeeat |
| 18:57.01 | khonkhortisan | back you are, slithering snake. |
| 18:57.14 | alezakos | Snake, we don't need to know when you BRB or get back. There's the /away and /back commands for that. |
| 18:57.37 | khonkhortisan | whether those are standard commands has been the topic of conversation |
| 19:12.41 | Snake12534 | how do I mark myself as back? |
| 19:13.43 | khonkhortisan | /away /back |
| 19:15.23 | Snake12534 | Hi |
| 19:16.12 | Snake12534 | soo.. |
| 19:16.19 | Snake12534 | Whatya doing? |
| 19:16.33 | Snake12534 | oh god sorry |
| 19:16.36 | Snake12534 | this is #bzflag |
| 19:16.42 | Snake12534 | not khonkhortisan chat |
| 19:17.10 | khonkhortisan | :) |
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| 19:36.39 | swigg | *I* am smking a cigar while cleaning tools/the shop |
| 19:44.48 | Snake12534 | That is not healthy. |
| 19:52.00 | blast007 | Yeah, you really shouldn't clean. The dust might get in your lungs. |
| 19:59.18 | khonkhortisan | Depending on the wood, you may have to avoid sawdust |
| 20:03.32 | swigg | No sawdust here |
| 20:03.44 | Snake12534 | Okie |
| 20:03.48 | Snake12534 | Still bad to smoke |
| 20:03.54 | swigg | just particulate silicates and complex hydrocarbons |
| 20:04.01 | Snake12534 | I know a grandparent who had a hole in his neck from smoking... |
| 20:04.10 | swigg | I don't smoke like that |
| 20:05.10 | Snake12534 | Ok. |
| 20:05.19 | Snake12534 | Cigars taste like dirty socks.. |
| 20:05.27 | Snake12534 | I ain't gonna try them again O.o |
| 20:08.12 | swigg | Don't eat them next time |
| 20:08.36 | swigg | Besides... you are 12 |
| 20:09.24 | Snake12534 | I know.. I know.. |
| 20:09.29 | Snake12534 | Peer pressure, huh? |
| 20:09.42 | Snake12534 | and I don't eat them lol |
| 20:36.34 | JeffM | double wtf? |
| 20:37.14 | Snake12534 | triple wtf? |
| 20:37.39 | blast007 | m-m-m-m-multi wtf! |
| 20:37.52 | Snake12534 | what the freak? |
| 20:38.02 | Snake12534 | infinity wf? |
| 20:38.05 | Snake12534 | wtf?* |
| 20:38.11 | blast007 | stack overflow |
| 20:38.51 | JeffM | he uses java, no stack |
| 20:46.00 | Snake12534 | who's he? |
| 20:46.34 | khonkhortisan | you should know who you are |
| 20:47.42 | Snake12534 | oh |
| 20:47.47 | Snake12534 | I see how it is. |
| 20:47.51 | Snake12534 | I SEE |
| 20:47.59 | Snake12534 | ok I am going to ducati FM now. |
| 20:48.21 | JeffM | there is this thing called twitter, look into it |
| 20:48.46 | alezakos | swigg: /superkill is often used by ducati league admins, as a quick way of resetting the randomly generated map |
| 20:49.05 | khonkhortisan | but with twitter, each sentence can have its own topic using hashtags instead of the channel being the topic like here |
| 20:49.57 | swigg | K: I never do GU, so that makes sense |
| 20:50.08 | JeffM | the topic here being NOT about what matches a person is playing at any given moment ;) |
| 20:50.40 | swigg | I did /superkill once on bloodbath. NEVER wanted to do it again |
| 20:52.14 | alezakos | It might get funny when newbies who happen to be cops thing it's an equivalent to /killall, so they do a /superkill thinking it will just kill everyone and... BOOM! Everybody vanishes. |
| 20:52.35 | swigg | Something that might be neat: a command to add people to the whitelist when needed |
| 20:52.48 | swigg | sort of an antibanlist |
| 20:53.05 | JeffM | thats what the anitban perm is for |
| 20:53.20 | swigg | Sometimes you need to ban whitelisted people |
| 20:53.21 | JeffM | antiban |
| 20:53.23 | alezakos | /setgroup swigg WHITELIST (After you create a WHITELIST group of course) |
| 20:56.17 | swigg | alezakos: That works only for group leaders |
| 20:56.28 | swigg | and that is such a pain |
| 20:56.38 | JeffM | wite a plugin to do the same thing then with a custom /command |
| 20:56.58 | swigg | <-- not a coder |
| 20:57.04 | JeffM | then pay someone to do it ;) |
| 20:57.09 | JeffM | it'd be super simple |
| 20:57.19 | swigg | Ok... Jeff I have $5. Will you do it? |
| 20:57.29 | JeffM | nope, I am a high class coder |
| 20:57.34 | swigg | ok... $6 |
| 20:57.44 | blast007 | swigg: I want to "fix" how the ban system works, but I never got around to it. I want to make 'idbans' ignore antiban permissions. |
| 20:57.55 | blast007 | that would solve the issue with being unable to ban whitelisted users. |
| 20:58.00 | swigg | oh; thought they already did that |
| 20:58.02 | JeffM | pff just go back to /password |
| 20:58.15 | blast007 | JeffM: that still wouldn't fix the issue ;) |
| 20:58.21 | swigg | we still use password as a backup when listserv fails |
| 20:58.30 | JeffM | ban everyone who dosn't have the password |
| 20:58.46 | JeffM | take bzflag back to it's lan roots |
| 20:58.53 | JeffM | no connections outside the subnet |
| 20:58.58 | blast007 | swigg: when did the list last fail? oh right, when it was running on a system with 400MB+ of RAM being sucked up by an IRC client. |
| 20:58.58 | JeffM | solves a boatload of problems |
| 20:59.21 | swigg | Blast007: It last failed about a year and a half ago IIRC |
| 20:59.32 | swigg | bye snake |
| 21:00.07 | blast007 | swigg: I've had this new server for a year now. |
| 21:00.28 | blast007 | and for a bit before that it was temporarily on an $8 VPS that wasn't all that reliable.. |
| 21:00.31 | JeffM | yeah that was a good move |
| 21:00.44 | blast007 | so that cheap VPS was probably the last time it went down ;) |
| 21:01.06 | swigg | Yeah, I bought one of those with a coupon... Failed right out of the box |
| 21:01.08 | blast007 | funny that stuff works better when you pay almost 20 times as much |
| 21:01.41 | swigg | got a 1500 at a pawnshop for $20 |
| 21:01.48 | swigg | maybe a 2000 |
| 21:01.56 | blast007 | a 1500 what? |
| 21:02.08 | swigg | whatever model of that popular UPS brand |
| 21:02.14 | swigg | you know the one |
| 21:02.17 | blast007 | I said VPS, not UPS |
| 21:02.18 | JeffM | vps != ups |
| 21:02.24 | JeffM | Virtual Private Server |
| 21:02.35 | swigg | the font isn't easy to read all the time |
| 21:02.41 | blast007 | pick a better font |
| 21:03.01 | JeffM | Turn on text to speach |
| 21:03.12 | swigg | I thought VPS's were software |
| 21:03.15 | blast007 | I'm using Courier New 10-point here ;) |
| 21:03.22 | JeffM | they are software running on hardware |
| 21:03.33 | JeffM | a VPS is a virtualised server at an ISP |
| 21:03.34 | blast007 | you get a virtual slice of a server |
| 21:03.43 | JeffM | the more you pay the better the slice is |
| 21:03.52 | blast007 | sometimes.. :) |
| 21:04.27 | swigg | Oh, who knows? I only do SOHO |
| 21:04.33 | blast007 | a bad user on the same host can still affect the I/O on your server |
| 21:11.33 | swigg | Yep. Times font is much better |
| 21:12.05 | swigg | reading it like this kinda takes out the sarcasm, though |
| 21:15.27 | JeffM | there are 2 kinds of virtualisation that affect how VMs interact |
| 21:15.46 | JeffM | the one that's better has fewer compatable client OSs IIRC |
| 21:16.26 | swigg | Hypervisor is one, what is the other? |
| 21:17.00 | JeffM | hypervisor is a name for a type of system, and they are all forms of hypervisors |
| 21:17.16 | JeffM | zend is one I think |
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| 22:31.49 | blast007 | there's some scheduled maintenance with my server provider, but it doesn't sound like it'll have any impact on the bzflag services |
| 22:31.59 | blast007 | "This maintenance window is scheduled for Thursday, June 13th, 2013 from 12:00AM to 6:00AM CST. We do not expect any increased latency during this time period. No servers are expected to lose power during the maintenance window." |
| 22:32.17 | blast007 | (they're doing some work on a core network router) |
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