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| 16:15.11 | jeffm | so according to the apt website, debian 7 still has 2.0.16 in it :( |
| 16:24.19 | blast007 | yeah, it wasn't going to go into wheezy |
| 16:24.24 | blast007 | it was in experimental, not testing |
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| 16:27.24 | jeffm | they could not have pushed it up? |
| 16:27.57 | jeffm | well it just shows how the debian system doesn't work for games |
| 16:35.19 | BulletCatcher | What can we do to get 2.4 into the next Debian release? |
| 16:35.36 | blast007 | we could get 2.4.2 into wheezy-backports |
| 16:36.10 | BulletCatcher | That sounds worthwhile. |
| 16:36.35 | blast007 | would still require that users then enable the backports repo to get 2.4.2, but it's easier than having them compile |
| 16:36.44 | BulletCatcher | yup |
| 16:37.11 | blast007 | probably worth setting up our own set of repos as well |
| 16:38.41 | BulletCatcher | That would depend on how simple we can make the instructions for using it. |
| 16:39.01 | blast007 | it'd be as easy as adding backports ;) |
| 16:39.58 | blast007 | create a two line file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 16:40.02 | blast007 | aptitude update |
| 16:40.08 | blast007 | aptitude install bzflag |
| 16:43.02 | BulletCatcher | How common are other unofficial Debian repos? |
| 16:43.03 | BulletCatcher | It seems like they could easily lead to malware infections. |
| 16:44.09 | blast007 | with Ubuntu it's more common (with the whole PPA thing) |
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| 16:44.32 | blast007 | but there's a number of unofficial Debian package repos |
| 16:44.46 | blast007 | they're all unsupported by the Debian channels, of course |
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| 17:19.47 | blast007 | jeffm: looking at the upcoming changes to COPPA, it seems like IP addresses and even our BZID are now considered "personal information". So I'm not sure the idea of child accounts works any longer. |
| 17:20.38 | jeffm | the current idea or the one where the parents set up the child account? |
| 17:21.07 | blast007 | someone 13+, not necessarily a parent |
| 17:21.42 | jeffm | sure, you'd have to state that the cration of child accounts is ONLy to be done by the parrent |
| 17:21.57 | jeffm | have them agree they are 18+ and the legal guardian |
| 17:22.09 | jeffm | or just block < 13 |
| 17:22.13 | jeffm | that's the easy way |
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| 18:16.18 | BulletCatcher | http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/bzflag.html seems to be the dashboard of our Debian status. |
| 18:16.19 | BulletCatcher | It isn't clear to me what absolutely must be done to move 2.4.2 from experimental to unstable, and then to testing. |
| 18:17.26 | BulletCatcher | It seems that packages in testing more or less automatically are included in the next stable release. |
| 18:18.22 | blast007 | testing *is* what becomes the next release |
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| 18:18.43 | blast007 | wheezy was 'testing'. on the 4th it became 'stable'. |
| 18:19.54 | BulletCatcher | Okay. One step at a time: how do we advance from experimental to unstable? |
| 18:20.14 | blast007 | *shrugs* |
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| 18:22.03 | blast007 | between 2.0 and 2.4, we have almost 50 players online right now ;D |
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| 18:25.29 | BulletCatcher | Take *that*, Xbox! |
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| 18:39.27 | blast007 | I was going to make a comparison with a PS2 game, but I forgot that EA shut down the servers for this one already. ;) So.. we win! |
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| 19:34.06 | blast007 | ubuntu has had 2.4.2 for their last two releases |
| 19:40.02 | BulletCatcher | Yup, but DistroWatch shows Debian in the #5 spot so it is probably worth some effort to get them up to date. |
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| 19:54.49 | blast007 | http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=bzflag |
| 19:55.52 | blast007 | that data might not be ovely useful considering that 2.0 has been outdated for 2 years or so ;) |
| 20:07.46 | blast007 | overly* |
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