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| 16:23.29 | blast007 | ~kierra++ |
| 16:26.17 | kierra | whoa, +karma from blast007.....means alot!!!! |
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| 21:06.54 | JeffM | I_Died_Once, speed |
| 21:07.18 | I_Died_Once | ...not my drug of choice |
| 21:07.37 | blast007 | I_Died_Once: down is negative |
| 21:07.39 | blast007 | probably |
| 21:08.13 | JeffM | because Z is up :) |
| 21:08.24 | JeffM | yeah what is your speed? |
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| 21:08.56 | I_Died_Once | which speed? |
| 21:09.03 | I_Died_Once | is missing something |
| 21:09.03 | JeffM | the rain speed |
| 21:09.05 | blast007 | _rainSpeed |
| 21:09.09 | JeffM | is it postive or negative? |
| 21:09.30 | I_Died_Once | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.41 | JeffM | are you using a preset rain mode? |
| 21:09.43 | Delusional | that's default |
| 21:09.46 | I_Died_Once | bubbles |
| 21:09.53 | JeffM | yeah bububles hardcodes up |
| 21:09.59 | JeffM | use show |
| 21:10.01 | JeffM | snow |
| 21:10.09 | JeffM | IIRC there is a snow preset |
| 21:10.14 | blast007 | yup |
| 21:10.16 | JeffM | or mod the image for frogs |
| 21:10.25 | blast007 | /set _rainType snow |
| 21:10.27 | blast007 | iirc |
| 21:10.33 | JeffM | that sounds right |
| 21:10.33 | I_Died_Once | just changed it to snow |
| 21:10.46 | JeffM | does snow do puddles? |
| 21:10.46 | I_Died_Once | whats going on here? |
| 21:10.52 | JeffM | SCIENCE! |
| 21:10.58 | Delusional | no puddles with snow |
| 21:11.01 | JeffM | k |
| 21:11.04 | JeffM | I could not remember |
| 21:11.29 | JeffM | the presets just change various options, but some overide the other variables like bubbles |
| 21:11.42 | JeffM | and bubbles always go up |
| 21:11.53 | Delusional | and as i recall... bubbles doesn't change rainSpeed, it changes _rainStartZ and _rainEndZ |
| 21:11.57 | JeffM | IIRC frogs is snow with puddles |
| 21:12.08 | JeffM | it does more then that, but that's part of it |
| 21:12.14 | blast007 | frogs have red puddles ;) |
| 21:12.21 | JeffM | is a sick bastard |
| 21:12.52 | Delusional | I like to use _rainTexture puddle with _rainType snow.... looks like little atoms falling. |
| 21:12.53 | JeffM | if you want to tweak all the options then you may not want to use a preset mode |
| 21:13.16 | blast007 | Delusional: and bubble does set the rain speed to a positive 20 |
| 21:14.08 | blast007 | or more specifically, the various presets have defaults defined, but will use the _rain* values instead if they are defined |
| 21:14.16 | Delusional | then why does _rainSpeed return none? |
| 21:14.20 | blast007 | src/bzflag/WeatherRenderer.cxx has all the definitions |
| 21:14.24 | JeffM | it dosn't set the variable |
| 21:14.34 | JeffM | it uses a preset instead if the variable is unset |
| 21:14.34 | blast007 | the defaults are client-side |
| 21:14.39 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:14.46 | blast007 | s/defaults/presets/ |
| 21:14.50 | JeffM | the server dosn't know what a client will do wiht it |
| 21:14.56 | JeffM | rain is ENTIRELY client side |
| 21:15.09 | JeffM | the mode sets the client to a specific set of values |
| 21:15.18 | JeffM | then if the server sets new values it'll use them |
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| 21:15.38 | capitaninsaneoh | can anyone point me to an offical logo for the game? |
| 21:15.40 | JeffM | so yeah don't use bubbles, or set a speed |
| 21:15.46 | JeffM | capitaninsaneoh, there isn't one |
| 21:16.12 | JeffM | our header and icon images are in /misc in the source tree |
| 21:16.19 | Delusional | ahh.. I think the rain and sky systems are wonderful. the only complaint I ever had is /reset * misses some of the rain vars. |
| 21:16.37 | JeffM | Delusional, they are huge hacks, I'd redo them differently now |
| 21:16.51 | JeffM | with script callbacks |
| 21:17.43 | Delusional | you can crash a server by messing with rain for a while, then using /reset * |
| 21:17.46 | blast007 | JeffM: seems the "Mofo" on the forums is not related |
| 21:18.26 | JeffM | the what where? |
| 21:18.50 | JeffM | Delusional, dosn't suprize me, you can crash the server lots of ways :) |
| 21:18.51 | blast007 | the post on the forum about rain wasn't a member of PM, it seems |
| 21:19.28 | blast007 | capitaninsaneoh: what are you needing a logo for? |
| 21:19.35 | I_Died_Once | i told that fool not to use that name so people won't mistakenly draw up any connection between us and him |
| 21:19.37 | capitaninsaneoh | For an article |
| 21:19.38 | I_Died_Once | bless his heart |
| 21:19.57 | I_Died_Once | grumbles |
| 21:19.59 | JeffM | capitaninsaneoh, probalby just use the icon image then, we use that a lot |
| 21:20.02 | blast007 | capitaninsaneoh: well, there's the icon we have. |
| 21:20.03 | I_Died_Once | its all good, gentlemen |
| 21:20.15 | capitaninsaneoh | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/misc/art/bzicon-red.svg?view=log is all I could find |
| 21:20.18 | JeffM | IIRC it's SVG in the source tree |
| 21:20.20 | JeffM | yeah that's it |
| 21:20.33 | capitaninsaneoh | Is there one with the name in it? |
| 21:20.36 | JeffM | nope |
| 21:20.43 | capitaninsaneoh | Ok cool |
| 21:20.51 | JeffM | the only other thing is the title image |
| 21:20.55 | capitaninsaneoh | Gracias |
| 21:21.00 | JeffM | we don't realy have a "logo" for the name |
| 21:21.10 | blast007 | https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/data/bzflag-48x48.png |
| 21:21.20 | JeffM | just picks whatever font looks kewl the day he makes an image |
| 21:21.55 | JeffM | heh, website dosn't even have the name outside of regular text |
| 21:22.18 | JeffM | Comic Sans! |
| 21:22.55 | JeffM | I_Died_Once, then why did he say "we" |
| 21:23.13 | capitaninsaneoh | 48x48 lol |
| 21:23.21 | JeffM | thats why we have the svg |
| 21:23.37 | capitaninsaneoh | yes, i got it thanks! |
| 21:23.39 | capitaninsaneoh | =) |
| 21:23.47 | capitaninsaneoh | Keep up the great work guys! |
| 21:23.51 | JeffM | what work? |
| 21:24.01 | JeffM | is your article on how to not manage a project? |
| 21:24.07 | capitaninsaneoh | lmao |
| 21:24.09 | blast007 | the work in minecraft |
| 21:24.16 | blast007 | punches some sheep |
| 21:24.29 | JeffM | I'm not really joking, there is no ongoing work |
| 21:25.18 | capitaninsaneoh | Well the game is still awesome |
| 21:25.30 | JeffM | glad you like it |
| 21:27.12 | JeffM | what is the article for? |
| 21:27.46 | capitaninsaneoh | Ubuntu user magazine |
| 21:27.56 | JeffM | fun |
| 21:28.39 | capitaninsaneoh | Yeah it should be good and it good way to get newish FOSS people introduced to excelent games |
| 21:29.00 | JeffM | if only bzflag was execlent :) |
| 21:29.11 | capitaninsaneoh | lmao |
| 21:29.19 | JeffM | it dosn't play well on the internet |
| 21:29.22 | JeffM | it's a fine lan game |
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| 21:32.51 | capitaninsaneoh | Have a good night g2g |
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