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| 18:57.29 | mr64bit | Does anybody know if I can log data from my server to a .log file with date/time stamps? |
| 19:00.39 | blast007 | bzfs -help | grep time |
| 19:00.41 | blast007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.42 | blast007 | ;) |
| 19:01.14 | blast007 | and then log the usual way you would... redirection, tee, etc |
| 19:03.15 | mr64bit | ok, use -ts. what do I put in the micros param? |
| 19:04.26 | mr64bit | ah, nvm |
| 19:04.30 | mr64bit | thanks! |
| 19:15.55 | blast007 | also, I use logDetail for my logging |
| 19:15.59 | blast007 | instead of -d |
| 19:49.31 | JeffM | blast007, where do they keep coming from?.... |
| 19:50.20 | blast007 | some schools might already be done for the summer.. |
| 19:50.36 | JeffM | or started pouring paint chips into the food |
| 19:50.43 | blast007 | hehe |
| 19:52.59 | blast007 | Tank Terminator had begged me to build UselessMine for Windows for him, and turns out he can barely operate a mouse, it seems :P |
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| 21:48.58 | yosef | OT here, but someone here might know: |
| 21:49.20 | yosef | I'm working on a student management system that needs to track student attendance |
| 21:49.52 | yosef | what are your recommendations on student pin length, and whether to re-use pins? |
| 21:50.35 | blast007 | pins are dangerous. someone could poke an eye out. |
| 21:50.45 | yosef | this is for a Montessori with ~150 kids now |
| 21:51.01 | yosef | ok I'll stick with codes |
| 21:51.11 | blast007 | why not just use some commercial software solution for this? |
| 21:51.24 | yosef | the company has 1 |
| 21:51.30 | yosef | but it's hard to use |
| 21:51.45 | yosef | and doesn't have things they really need (like storage of medical records) |
| 21:52.18 | blast007 | we use Skyward currently |
| 21:53.16 | yosef | how much does it cost per month? |
| 21:53.29 | blast007 | InfiniteCampus is another one I know of that some of the larger schools in the state use |
| 21:53.44 | blast007 | dunno, and I don't think it's per month, but probably an annual fee |
| 21:53.56 | blast007 | and it would depend what modules/features you wanted or needed |
| 21:54.01 | blast007 | so you'd have to talk to them |
| 21:54.13 | yosef | hmm, I'll look into it |
| 21:54.30 | yosef | that would certainly be easier than finishing this project |
| 21:54.40 | blast007 | the system can be rather confusing, though |
| 21:54.57 | yosef | there's the cinch - their current system is also really confusing |
| 21:55.01 | blast007 | they're currently moving stuff from a software application to a web interface |
| 21:56.14 | blast007 | the state of Wisconsin is going to choose a single system to use for the entire state |
| 21:56.29 | blast007 | dunno who they will choose |
| 21:56.37 | yosef | how do you, or Skyward, track individual attendance? |
| 21:58.48 | blast007 | class schedules are within Skyward and the teachers just fill in the attendance at the start of classes |
| 22:00.41 | yosef | the client needs attendance taken when the student enters the building, either by the student or by a parent |
| 22:00.59 | yosef | they also take attendance at the start of classes, so yes there is redundancy |
| 22:01.30 | yosef | the other problem with a commercial software solution is that it could be too broad |
| 22:01.43 | yosef | their needs are more specific |
| 22:01.44 | blast007 | afaik, skyward is modular |
| 22:02.18 | blast007 | can't hurt to at least talk to them and see if what they have would meet your needs |
| 22:02.40 | blast007 | we also get our hardware support through them |
| 22:03.10 | yosef | cool |
| 22:03.34 | yosef | still, what would you recommend if commercial software didn't fit? |
| 22:04.13 | blast007 | my last job just had a system that used a 5 digit pin number to log in/out |
| 22:04.31 | blast007 | but that was adult training with no class schedules |
| 22:07.27 | yosef | would re-use of codes be a good idea or not? |
| 22:07.52 | yosef | I've had varying responses to that, and wanted to hear what someone else would say |
| 22:20.45 | blast007 | re-use meaning what? |
| 22:23.15 | yosef | re-use as in when a student leaves |
| 22:23.33 | blast007 | I'd recommend against that |
| 22:23.36 | yosef | their code can be used again |
| 22:23.39 | yosef | ah |
| 22:23.50 | blast007 | at least if you retain data, which I'm assuming you do |
| 22:24.05 | yosef | so for historical purposes |
| 22:24.25 | blast007 | depends if you have a separate student ID or not |
| 22:24.30 | yosef | we do |
| 22:24.37 | blast007 | then not as big of a deal |
| 22:25.04 | blast007 | just associate their pin with their student ID and track by student ID, not by their pin |
| 22:25.15 | yosef | I just don't want to have the possibility of running out of pins |
| 22:25.35 | blast007 | just add digits if you "run out" |
| 22:26.14 | yosef | darn, does this mean I should be tracking used pins..... |
| 22:28.30 | yosef | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.32 | yosef | thanks for the help |
| 22:28.39 | blast007 | :) |
| 22:29.12 | yosef | looks like there's much work ahead of me |
| 22:29.49 | yosef | in the rush to finish this project (or at least get it in presentable form for the end of the semester) there are some obvious things you overlook |
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