IRC log for #bzflag on 20120411

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01:41.09CIA-104opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * r112 10/trunk/unit0/client/ (5 files in 2 dirs): start hud seperation
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04:48.55khonkhortisanWho was it that I was talking to about my power supply?
04:49.04JeffMa bunch of us
04:49.08JeffMdid you get another one?
04:49.52khonkhortisanyeah I upgraded my 350W for a 550W
04:49.57JeffMcool
04:50.02JeffMthat should do well
04:51.32khonkhortisannow I have to test it
04:51.48JeffMrun furmark
04:56.12khonkhortisanis it supposed to use all my cpu? I'm running it in wine
04:56.24JeffMoh
04:56.37JeffMit'll stress your GPU
04:56.43JeffMthen run prime95 :)
04:56.48JeffMthat'll get your CPU
04:57.58khonkhortisanI want to test my GPU, I'm just wondering if it is normal for furmark to use all my cpu or if that is a symptom of wine use
04:58.15JeffMit should use both
04:58.29JeffMit's a decent overall stress test
05:02.23ts3dJeffM: got any recommendations on game engine architecture/design literature?
05:02.41JeffMfor graphics or the rest of the game?
05:02.53ts3dRest
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05:03.07JeffMSex Lies and Video Games
05:03.24JeffMbut it really depends on what kind of game you want
05:03.36JeffMthe arch for a board game is VERY different then one for a shooter
05:03.51khonkhortisan_You talkin' to me?
05:03.58JeffMnope :)
05:04.00ts3dBoard games are for old people. FPS leaning games
05:04.00DelusionalIf you've drunk too much wine and a furry has marked you, stop thinking about sex
05:04.10khonkhortisan_it rebooted I wasn't looking
05:04.16JeffMfor fps the important aspect is simulation
05:04.32JeffMI read "networked virtual environments" and it had a lot of insight into how to do the simulation
05:04.44JeffMthe rest I got from a lot of crappy books
05:04.48JeffMand common sense
05:09.02JeffMjust don't use bzflag as an example :)
05:09.36ts3dI know. BZ is.....uh.....I don't know the words
05:10.09JeffMbad
05:10.16JeffMit was designed using old ideals
05:11.54ts3dI feel bad. I think I'm starting to want to learn C#. Those event handlers look nice
05:12.08JeffMthey make for some easy coding
05:12.15JeffMthat and threads are super simple
05:12.16khonkhortisanCan you use C# if you don't have windows?
05:12.19JeffMyeah
05:12.31JeffMlike 40 apps that ship with ubuntu are done in C#
05:12.45JeffMmono is a wonderful thing
05:12.56khonkhortisanoh I have mono
05:13.07JeffMit's installed by default on a number of distros now
05:13.08ts3dYou should get that checked out.
05:14.13JeffMthe defult mono install on ubuntu is why I can take my app and just click it to run
05:15.26ts3dStill have to install opentk
05:15.33JeffMnope
05:15.37JeffMjust copy the dlls ;)
05:15.48ts3dThat's cheating
05:15.58JeffMthat's assembly deployment
05:17.46JeffMkhonkhortisan, this is the same app on both windows and linux http://www.awesomelaser.com/crap/winlin.png
05:18.16JeffMeach running in a seperate debugger
05:19.44ts3dWhen ever I see a screen shot I'm more interested in the desktop icons for some reason.
05:20.47khonkhortisanI was looking at the window decorations
05:21.03JeffMit's just windows 7
05:21.12khonkhortisanand the other?
05:21.16JeffMubuntu
05:21.26khonkhortisangnome? kde?
05:21.32JeffMwhatever the defult is
05:21.35ts3dHave you tried archlinux?
05:21.40JeffMwhy?
05:21.59ts3dRolling release, bleeding edge
05:22.17JeffMI don't use linux for my destktop so I don't realy care
05:22.38ts3dBut...but.... xmonad ;)
05:22.50JeffMbut but but... useablity... and a real job....
05:23.15khonkhortisanI tried xmonad, it wasn't really packaged for my os
05:23.45JeffMwindows 7 supports multiple displays just fine
05:23.50JeffMwhy would i need an add on?
05:24.48ts3dit's about tiling not multiple displays
05:24.57JeffMthat screenshot was just me testing the build on both platforms
05:25.05khonkhortisanI heard it's similar to awesome
05:25.14JeffMwhatever floats your boat
05:25.25JeffMI did other tests that uses the same exe on both OSs
05:25.36JeffMto ensure it didn't matter where it was built
05:28.00khonkhortisanI just found a scam in a mailing list
05:30.35ts3djeff what does the server solution folder point at no solution folders on express
05:32.04JeffMthe solution folders don't have to match real directories
05:32.22JeffMit's just where I grouped the 3 projects used in servers
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06:05.11CIA-104opencombat: 03JeffM2501 * r113 10/trunk/unit0/client/ (MainWindow.cs View/View.Hud.cs View/View.cs): draw connection wait screen
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17:19.34TimRikerwhat is SIMTEL20.ARPA.NET and why does it send email from bzflag.org ?
17:23.20brlcadthat sounds like BulletCatcher's network
17:23.43TimRikerI'm thinking I should add that host to the spf rule
17:23.55blast007TimRiker: the bzflag VPS is just set up to relay email to a different host
17:24.21TimRikerwhatever host really does send email, should be listed in the spf rule.
17:24.48TimRiker$ host -t txt bzflag.org
17:24.48TimRikerbzflag.org descriptive text "v=spf1 a mx a:bz.bzflag.bz -all"
17:25.41brlcadit's no longer originating from bz.bzflag.bz
17:25.55brlcad(at least not all of them)
17:26.03BulletCatcherYes, that is my host.
17:26.04BulletCatcherIt provides mail relay service for blast007's web server.
17:26.38TimRikerok. just add that one then, k? v=spf1 a mx a:simtel20.arpa.net a:bz.bzflag.bz -all
17:28.31BulletCatcherThat should work.
17:28.40TimRikerk. committed
17:29.28Quolhey there brlcad: it's been a while :)
17:29.38brlcadhowdy Quol :)
17:29.59brlcadbusy busy :)
17:30.03Quolya - I hear ya
17:30.05Quolme too :)
17:30.17BulletCatcherMuch better than bored bored. :-)
17:30.57QuolBulletCatcher: I don't know...I think I would trade a bunch of busy busy days to have a couple of bored bored ones
17:31.07BulletCatcherBalance is the key.
17:31.24brlcaddoesn't even remember the last time he was actually bored... hmm.
17:31.36Quoleither
17:33.18BulletCatcherTimRiker, I don't see that change in DNS yet.  Am I too impatient?
17:36.09TimRikerBulletCatcher, uh, nope. I forgot to reload the nameserver....
17:36.15TimRikershould see it now.
17:36.30blast007tada!
17:36.42TimRikercovers head sheepishly
17:36.52BulletCatcher~hide TimRiker
17:36.52ibotACTION gets a huge black sheet and covers TimRiker with it so that nobody can see what TimRiker is doing!
17:37.01TimRikerhmm. nice
17:37.09BulletCatcher:-)
17:37.20blast007cloak of invisibility, activate!
17:37.48BulletCatcherAnd yes, I see it on the authoritative DNS servers now.
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18:39.14joevano~JeffM++
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19:39.53JeffMjoevano, for what?
19:40.15JeffMI tolay wish I had respect on the MLP:FIM forums!
19:49.48ts3d....bronies
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19:59.02CIA-104opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * r114 10/trunk/unit0/components/Textures/Textures.cs: utils to get texture size as a various types
19:59.20JeffMts3d, Apple Jack is the best!
19:59.39JeffMblast007, you arround?
19:59.44JeffMwant a job?
20:09.41blast007JeffM: yep, I'm around.
20:09.45blast007sup?
20:13.54ts3dRainbow Dash!
20:14.18JeffMblasphemy!
20:14.28ts3dI joke. I don't actually watch mlp.
20:14.30JeffMdash cheats at sports
20:14.55joevanoJeffM: yep, MLP
20:16.35joevanoit would appear that I am being promoted in July to "VP of IT" :-)
20:16.48JeffMnice
20:16.58JeffMwe are trying to hire 2 more software developers
20:17.06JeffMand one with web expiernce would be nice
20:17.31ts3dJuly? Tell them nao.
20:18.04JeffMso far they've been happy with the other developer that came from this channel :)
20:18.17joevanoJeffM: I know one in your general area but he just took a job in Qatar
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20:23.11ts3dJeff what kind of work do you do
20:23.33JeffMwe make a CAD/CAM system
20:30.30ts3dWhat/where package do I need to the scripting aassemblies?
20:30.35ts3dfor*
20:30.50JeffMiron python
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23:24.39CIA-104opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * r115 10/trunk/unit0/components/Textures/Textures.cs:
23:24.39CIA-104opencombat: Replace simple "mipMapped" flag with an enum to allow for multiple smoothing options.
23:24.39CIA-104opencombat: Add functions to help draw images in orthographic for GUIs.
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23:26.23CIA-104opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * r116 10/trunk/unit0/ (9 files in 6 dirs):
23:26.24CIA-104opencombat: update code to use new texture smoothing option.
23:26.24CIA-104opencombat: have hud draw a connection screen with a status message as we connect to server.

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