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| 01:24.01 | Flash | I found the sound crashing bug (finally) |
| 01:25.37 | spldart | 8-0 |
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| 01:58.30 | Flash | Is there a way to force the world (and plugins) to load custom sounds at startup? |
| 02:03.26 | ts3d | That would require each client downloading that sound. I don't think bz can do that atm. |
| 02:24.16 | JeffM | the sound message was removed |
| 02:24.37 | JeffM | it was unstable and there is no client access to any kind of downloadable sound cache |
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| 03:45.46 | Flash | apocolypse has the "donkey" sound that plays when you get hit by geno. I guess the plugin is adding the sound. A "non-standard" sound will trigger the bug |
| 03:54.50 | L4m3r | Flash: eh? |
| 03:55.11 | Flash | ?he |
| 03:55.27 | L4m3r | what do you mean by "non-standard"? it's the teamkill sound that comes with the game |
| 03:56.02 | Flash | there's a list of sounds in sound.cxx that are loaded at startup. All other sounds are loaded on demand |
| 03:56.34 | Flash | arguably, that list has not been maintained |
| 03:56.53 | Flash | arguably, it should not be maintained; rather, we should preload all the sounds in the data directory |
| 03:57.16 | L4m3r | that might explain why Keep Away and KOTH don't crash the macs when they trigger the flag alert sound, etc |
| 03:58.35 | Flash | it shouldn't be a Mac-specific issue, unless MacOS is more stringent about not using memory you don't own |
| 03:59.01 | Flash | (which is actually a good thing; protects against many buffer-overrun exploits) |
| 03:59.01 | L4m3r | well, I don't remember any reports of the thing crashing non-macs |
| 03:59.36 | Flash | well, I have a fix. There's a simple fix, and there's the major overhaul I did to find the bug |
| 04:00.09 | Flash | but I'm thinking the ultimate solution is to just load all the sounds at startup |
| 04:00.17 | Flash | maintainable for the future |
| 04:00.19 | L4m3r | I have noticed that Linux tends to be less picky about memory compared to Solaris, for instance- maybe it's along those lines for the mac. Windows, who knows :P |
| 04:01.36 | Flash | L4m3r: actually, what I saw was a request for "teamkill" sound and the sound in the data directory is named "killteam" |
| 04:01.52 | Flash | I wonder how that works? |
| 04:02.03 | L4m3r | no idea. the plugin asks for killteam. |
| 04:02.25 | Flash | ok... maybe we both were dyslexic |
| 04:03.03 | Flash | however, killteam is in the list of loaded sounds... |
| 04:03.28 | Flash | can you check the plugin for "teamkill"? |
| 04:04.10 | trepan | Flash: loading all sounds may not be the best solution long-term |
| 04:04.27 | trepan | what if you have sound theme-packs? could be a bunch of wasted memory |
| 04:04.28 | Flash | because? |
| 04:04.36 | L4m3r | oh crap, I re-enabled the sound?! |
| 04:04.46 | Flash | true, but how much memory are we talking about? |
| 04:04.56 | trepan | depends, how many sounds are we talking about? |
| 04:05.14 | Flash | today, 68 |
| 04:05.21 | L4m3r | OH, we tested it that time! D'oh! I updated an unrelated thing in the plugin two days ago- I did NOT intend to put the sound back |
| 04:05.32 | Flash | 32 are loaded at startup |
| 04:05.56 | L4m3r | it is "killteam", all lower case |
| 04:06.08 | Flash | ok, that's REALLY weird |
| 04:09.31 | Flash | you are right, it was sending killteam, but it should have been loaded at startup... |
| 04:10.08 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03nairraf * r22445 10/trunk/web/gamestats/ (28 files in 15 dirs): error handling overhaul - docs updated |
| 04:10.08 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03nairraf * r22446 10/trunk/web/gamestats/views/qore/ (. error/ error/error.html.twig): netbeans SVN....bad... |
| 04:22.06 | Flash | ok... there is (surprise) more than one bug |
| 04:31.37 | Flash | L4m3r: how does the plugin send the sound? |
| 04:31.46 | Flash | does it send MsgCustomSound? |
| 04:32.22 | L4m3r | bz_sendPlayCustomLocalSound |
| 04:32.30 | L4m3r | I don't know what the API does |
| 04:33.47 | Flash | yep, that's it |
| 04:34.23 | Flash | That particular API triggers the bug, due to a difference in how "custom" sounds are handled |
| 04:34.58 | Flash | any sound sent through that API will be loaded again, rather than using the one that is already in memory |
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| 05:49.11 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03jwmelto * r22447 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/sound.cxx: (log message trimmed) |
| 05:49.12 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: Fixed a bug where loading a "custom" sound can cause a resize of |
| 05:49.12 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: the vector of loaded sounds. Since another thread may be accessing this vector, |
| 05:49.12 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: memory issues can occur. |
| 05:49.12 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: One problem is that bz_sendPlayCustomLocalSound didn't know about local sounds, |
| 05:49.12 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: so any plugin that wanted to play a sound would force the sounded to be loaded |
| 05:49.13 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: again. This has also been fixed. |
| 06:00.35 | JeffM | we don't have a system to let all OSs access downloadable sounds |
| 06:00.44 | JeffM | and we don't have an upload/aproval system for sounds |
| 06:00.50 | JeffM | so it's rather moot |
| 06:31.55 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22448 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/sound.cxx: Fix shadowed variable warnings. |
| 06:34.41 | BulletCatcher | Flash, we haven't used exceptions anywhere else in the code. |
| 06:34.42 | BulletCatcher | How important are those new "catch" statements in sound.cxx. |
| 06:34.45 | BulletCatcher | ? |
| 06:44.42 | BulletCatcher | We'll have to stop using -fno-exceptions if they must stay. |
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| 10:59.38 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 2395365167b2 r43 10/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Add the initial MOTD support. |
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| 17:58.48 | ibot | somebody said bzsvn was http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
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