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| 00:42.15 | blast007 | it's called "slow keyboard" |
| 00:43.08 | blast007 | just cuts the speeds down by half, iirc |
| 00:43.08 | blast007 | tank speed and turning speed |
| 00:43.17 | swigg | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.17 | blast007 | though in observer mode it makes the camera have momentum |
| 00:43.34 | swigg | I wish they had it for controller inputs |
| 00:44.07 | blast007 | get an analog controller |
| 00:44.30 | swigg | even my analog controllers are analog over digital |
| 00:53.39 | JeffM | that'd be in SDL |
| 00:53.58 | JeffM | it would have to show as an axis |
| 00:54.07 | JeffM | or just write up a feature to assign a button to that command |
| 01:09.43 | swigg | I think someone asked this before and it wasn't possible unless they had a controller to keyboard interpolation software |
| 01:09.59 | swigg | like the program 'gamepad pro' |
| 01:11.27 | swigg | or... better yet: this! ---> www.pinnaclegameprofiler.com |
| 01:11.43 | JeffM | anything is possible it just has to be writen |
| 01:11.48 | swigg | I wish there was something open source like this |
| 01:12.03 | JeffM | you can write code to trigger any bz function from a keypress |
| 01:12.07 | JeffM | just add a new bind |
| 01:12.14 | JeffM | or hardcode it |
| 01:12.25 | swigg | easy for you.. not so much for me |
| 01:12.27 | JeffM | it's not like the client gets updated tha often |
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| 17:13.22 | CIA-112 | BZFlag: 03BzBandit 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r8191 10/Flag_ideas: |
| 17:17.11 | JeffM | really wishes people would read the rejected flags first..... |
| 17:18.25 | blast007 | we could just lock those pages ;) |
| 17:18.33 | JeffM | yeah |
| 17:18.37 | JeffM | and make a tracker |
| 17:18.53 | JeffM | I mean I like ability to have community submited ideas |
| 17:19.07 | JeffM | one of the flags on the page is not a bad idea |
| 17:35.42 | CIA-112 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r8192 10/Flag_ideas: Reject a slew of flags (not all), make notes about custom flags as options for mode specific flag ideas. |
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| 17:49.22 | JeffM | the split shot idea is not bad |
| 17:49.26 | JeffM | requires changes to the shot system |
| 17:49.34 | JeffM | but I like the idea |
| 17:51.25 | JeffM | oh ouch.... we hit an all time low in stats this morning... 0 players |
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| 18:16.58 | blast007 | JeffM: at least it can't get any lower now ;) |
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| 18:17.05 | JeffM | true |
| 18:17.11 | JeffM | tho it can get lower for longer |
| 18:17.18 | JeffM | it was only at 0 for 5 min |
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| 18:31.11 | BulletCatcher | JeffM: When you changed bzfsAPI.cxx in r22326 last week you added a "token" parameter to addJob(), but it doesn't get used. |
| 18:31.13 | BulletCatcher | I suspect that function needs more love. |
| 18:31.27 | JeffM | it should be stored |
| 18:31.36 | JeffM | but I will check it |
| 18:31.58 | JeffM | it's passed to the V2 version of the handler |
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| 18:34.02 | JeffM | ahh yes I see where I screwed up- |
| 18:34.05 | JeffM | it's used but never set |
| 18:34.27 | JeffM | guess that guy never used it |
| 18:34.57 | blast007 | oh yeah, forgot to commit that fix.. |
| 18:35.15 | JeffM | did you change your code to use it? |
| 18:35.16 | blast007 | I had wrapped it in an UNUSED macro here |
| 18:35.19 | blast007 | no |
| 18:35.47 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22350 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: set the token that we send in |
| 18:35.50 | JeffM | oh all you had to do was just use it in the assignment |
| 18:35.51 | BulletCatcher | I noticed because gcc gave an unused parameter warning. |
| 18:35.54 | JeffM | it was a copy paste error |
| 18:36.09 | JeffM | we were setting the saved token to null not the one passed in |
| 18:36.26 | JeffM | not all unused paramaters are suposed to be unused ;) |
| 18:36.50 | BulletCatcher | That's why I mentioned it. |
| 18:37.09 | JeffM | I would have never known if blast had commited his change |
| 18:37.41 | blast007 | hehe |
| 18:37.52 | blast007 | and it's al thanks to minecraft, probably |
| 18:37.56 | JeffM | what else is needed to stamp it .2? |
| 18:38.10 | JeffM | ahh minecraft has gotten you used to horrible code.. got it :) |
| 18:38.16 | blast007 | heh |
| 18:38.26 | ruskie | hehe |
| 18:38.48 | blast007 | but nah, bzflag has done that ;) |
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| 18:39.10 | JeffM | sadly minecraft has worrse netowkorking then bz |
| 18:39.39 | blast007 | quite an achievement |
| 18:39.50 | blast007 | I've only really done single player though |
| 18:39.51 | JeffM | they had similar development styles |
| 18:39.56 | JeffM | yeah tha't the issue |
| 18:40.15 | JeffM | they both started as single player with networking thrown in by someone who dosn't understand networking :) |
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| 18:44.11 | blast007 | is there some tool to verify the syntax of a man page? googling is just turning up man pages that have 'verify' in them... |
| 18:44.28 | blast007 | lintian was nagging about the bzfs man page, iirc |
| 18:46.23 | JeffM | do we need man pages? |
| 18:46.33 | JeffM | can't we just linink to the wiki? |
| 18:46.39 | BulletCatcher | Is lintian specific about the errors? |
| 18:47.17 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: it probably was, but I can't check right now. don't have access to the VM from work. |
| 18:47.33 | JeffM | are man pages required? |
| 18:47.38 | blast007 | JeffM: yes |
| 18:47.46 | JeffM | can they just have a link to a webpage? :) |
| 18:48.00 | blast007 | lintian complains about the lack of a man page for 'bzfquery' ;) |
| 18:48.23 | JeffM | I mean honestly, we pretty much require internet access, the docs can be online |
| 18:48.24 | blast007 | (the package bundles the perl bzfquery) |
| 18:48.28 | JeffM | then we don't have to package them on any OS |
| 18:48.41 | JeffM | or is that not the debian "way"? |
| 18:49.12 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 18:49.20 | BulletCatcher | Just don't include bzfquery in the deb. That was my solution for the Fedora RPM. |
| 18:49.22 | blast007 | I don't think there's much of a point in removing them |
| 18:49.28 | JeffM | k |
| 18:49.30 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: yeah, I'll probably just ditch it |
| 18:49.36 | JeffM | I don't htink ther eis much of a point in keeping them :) |
| 18:49.46 | JeffM | but we just want to get this done |
| 18:50.11 | blast007 | not like it's hugely useful for most people anyway |
| 18:50.12 | blast007 | JeffM: after 2.4.2, maybe :P |
| 18:50.19 | JeffM | exactky' |
| 18:50.30 | JeffM | wow I am having trouble with this keyboard |
| 18:50.38 | JeffM | that's what I get for changing my deks |
| 18:50.40 | JeffM | desk |
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| 18:52.36 | BulletCatcher | The man pages we have are in pretty good shape AFAIK. |
| 18:52.37 | BulletCatcher | Any minor problems should be easy enough to fix. |
| 18:52.44 | JeffM | did you see the minecraft style FPS blast007 ? |
| 19:00.33 | blast007 | no |
| 19:01.55 | JeffM | ace of spades it's called |
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| 19:18.00 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: I'll see if I can get the actual lintian errors quick |
| 19:18.07 | blast007 | running the build on my server |
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| 21:14.01 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: 03BzBandit 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r8194 10/Flag_ideas: |
| 21:14.03 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: W: bzflag-server: manpage-has-errors-from-man usr/share/man/man6/bzfs.6.gz 55: warning [p 1, 3.0i]: cannot adjust line |
| 21:14.07 | blast007 | is that meaningful? |
| 21:15.28 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r8195 10/Flag_ideas: Remove super stupid flag idea. |
| 21:16.28 | blast007 | heh |
| 21:16.59 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: 03BzBandit 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r8196 10/Flag_ideas: |
| 21:17.16 | blast007 | ..... |
| 21:17.41 | JeffM | ok now he's just being an ass |
| 21:17.52 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r8197 10/Flag_ideas: Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/BzBandit|BzBandit]] ([[User talk:BzBandit|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:JeffM2501|JeffM2501]] |
| 21:18.41 | JeffM | does block just block them on that page? or block them from the entire site? |
| 21:19.08 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r0 10/User:BzBandit: Inapropriate edits to flag ideas page |
| 21:19.56 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r0 10/Flag_ideas: Stupid flag ideas. |
| 21:19.59 | blast007 | blocks them from the entire thing |
| 21:20.03 | JeffM | ok |
| 21:20.09 | JeffM | I blocked them for a day |
| 21:20.13 | blast007 | however, I protected the page for a week |
| 21:20.31 | blast007 | only admins can edit the page now |
| 21:20.48 | JeffM | I'll make a tracker and put a link to it |
| 21:21.48 | blast007 | there's already an ideas tracker, I think |
| 21:24.52 | JeffM | there is feature requests |
| 21:25.01 | JeffM | that good enough? |
| 21:25.08 | blast007 | yeah |
| 21:26.14 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r8199 10/Flag_ideas: link to sf feature requests |
| 21:26.24 | JeffM | there were 2 good ideas in the bunch |
| 21:26.32 | JeffM | one we could maybe do with the current system |
| 21:26.33 | JeffM | slow shots |
| 21:27.26 | blast007 | would the local client still see their shots moving at the full speed though? |
| 21:27.57 | JeffM | I didn't mean in the current game |
| 21:28.00 | blast007 | k |
| 21:28.07 | JeffM | I meant with out major changes to the simulation or networking |
| 21:28.13 | JeffM | it would hve to be a proto break |
| 21:30.31 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: looks like it's the -mp line it doesn't like |
| 21:32.11 | blast007 | bleh, accidentally overwrite the file.. guess I'll just grab the line from home |
| 21:45.27 | BulletCatcher | The way the parameters for the -mp option are done, it can't split the line for very narrow windows. |
| 21:45.44 | BulletCatcher | I'm not sure how much of a problem that really is. |
| 21:46.01 | BulletCatcher | We could put spaces after the commas to make it happy. |
| 21:46.17 | BulletCatcher | But that wouldn't be syntatically correct. |
| 21:47.20 | BulletCatcher | I do see a different bug on that line. |
| 22:01.43 | BulletCatcher | My version of "man" splits the line by putting a hyphen in the middle of purple: pur-ple . |
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| 22:57.33 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22351 10/trunk/bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: |
| 22:57.34 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: Use soft hyphens in the -mp argument list for a cleaner line break. |
| 22:57.34 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: Make many changes between regular, bold, and italic fonts for consistent appearance. |
| 22:57.34 | CIA-113 | BZFlag: Fully specify the -time argument and improve the grammar of its description. |
| 22:57.45 | BulletCatcher | That doesn't fix the warning. :-p |
| 22:58.38 | BulletCatcher | The only way I found to make the warning go away is to put in a fixed line break, but that would have to assume a specific display width range. |
| 23:00.05 | BulletCatcher | As it is now, the "man" command does split the line at an existing hyphen. |
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