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| 00:08.45 | blast007 | JeffM: lol.. |
| 00:10.00 | JeffM | sadly I'm only half joking |
| 00:11.11 | blast007 | yeah |
| 00:11.39 | blast007 | "pre-order the replacement of BZFlag and get a free tank hat for Team Fortress 2!" |
| 00:11.56 | JeffM | sadly steam would not let us sell it |
| 00:16.38 | delusional | free tank hat? |
| 00:16.43 | delusional | wants |
| 00:17.32 | JeffM | it's a hat for your tank |
| 00:19.58 | delusional | image 3 of 12 http://bzstats.strayer.de/bzinfo/comics/?lang=en |
| 00:20.11 | delusional | i imagine somebody here has not seen them yet |
| 00:23.55 | JeffM | The photoshop take it away from him |
| 00:30.49 | JeffM | I bet someone would give us a dollar if they could have a confederate flag on the tank as they played |
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| 00:36.05 | delusional | there are flags of the world available as open source downloads |
| 00:36.13 | JeffM | yes |
| 00:36.32 | delusional | i must say that i always disliked the white flags, it's like everybody is surrendering. |
| 00:36.39 | JeffM | but you can't get them in game and have other people see them with out giving us a dollar :) |
| 00:36.48 | JeffM | oh I'm going to remove all the actual flags |
| 00:37.14 | delusional | just dont remove the l |
| 00:37.21 | delusional | L |
| 00:37.31 | JeffM | heh |
| 00:37.50 | JeffM | happy people can play too |
| 00:38.09 | JeffM | I don't mind |
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| 00:50.06 | JeffM | so I wonder who is against our glorious vision of the future |
| 00:55.45 | bryjen | luddites? |
| 00:56.28 | JeffM | do they even have computers? |
| 00:57.34 | bryjen | probly not ;) |
| 00:58.48 | JeffM | problem solved then |
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| 01:13.17 | JeffM | over half the curent non observer players are on a single server |
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| 01:22.45 | spldart | JeffM's statement is very VERY sad :( |
| 01:23.18 | spldart | ;_; over the demise of 'bzflag' |
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| 01:27.50 | blinky_ | rahh |
| 01:28.18 | blast007 | rahh? |
| 01:29.08 | blinky_ | felt like being random, sorry if I woke anyone up:P |
| 01:29.21 | blast007 | ;) |
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| 01:50.21 | Panda_ | is swigg a dev? |
| 01:54.41 | JeffM | he does not have commit access but he knows how to code and has submited a number of patches |
| 01:54.45 | JeffM | why? |
| 01:56.44 | Panda_ | I was just curious about a ban and what sort of person I was dealing with, I got a 90 day ban for asking him why he sticks up for sigonasr2 all the time. Doesn't matter :) |
| 01:57.21 | JeffM | that would be the ironic ban |
| 02:05.33 | Panda_ | I don't know how these people get perms to ban in the first place. Where i'm admin I never ban just like that, it's ridiculous and it puts me off playing. :) anyway not worth talking about anymore, 3am sleep time :D night! |
| 02:06.01 | JeffM | the owner gives them out |
| 02:06.04 | JeffM | it may be his server |
| 02:06.06 | JeffM | have fun |
| 02:17.49 | CIA-111 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r8006 10/UsageQuestions: Questions I want answered |
| 02:26.50 | CIA-111 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r8007 10/UsageQuestions: |
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| 10:24.30 | CIA-111 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r22144 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ControlPanel.cxx: Don't init already inited mutex |
| 10:25.11 | CIA-111 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r22145 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/clientCommands.cxx: Create detached thread, to avoid memory leak |
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| 13:19.48 | mahem1 | hey meeba |
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| 17:56.36 | JeffM | blast007, how many visits a month did we get on the main site |
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| 18:41.07 | blast007 | JeffM: well, in the last 30 days, we've had 8457 visits and 13,870 page views |
| 18:41.32 | JeffM | ok thanks |
| 18:42.19 | blast007 | the 30 days before that it was 9,555 and 15,577 |
| 18:43.24 | JeffM | hmm even thats droping |
| 18:43.43 | JeffM | if we have an average of 50 players then thats like 0.6% retention, and that sucks |
| 18:44.04 | JeffM | strayer is going to mine some data for me to see if he can answer my questions |
| 18:44.37 | blast007 | k |
| 18:44.48 | blast007 | again, this is only the main site |
| 18:44.53 | JeffM | yeah |
| 18:45.09 | JeffM | I still think that's the highest traffic place for new players |
| 18:45.38 | blast007 | "If a user is inactive on your site for 30 minutes or more, any future activity will be attributed to a new session." |
| 18:45.39 | JeffM | like I want to know how many people have played then stoped playing in 24 hours |
| 18:46.31 | blast007 | well, that's going to provide an inaccurate picture, I think |
| 18:46.40 | blast007 | lots of people pick random names and use them once |
| 18:46.45 | JeffM | possibly |
| 18:47.04 | blast007 | and some people create additional global accounts and use them once or twice |
| 18:47.09 | JeffM | do we check the last authed date of a reged account? |
| 18:47.22 | blast007 | sorta |
| 18:47.30 | blast007 | there's the token date |
| 18:47.45 | JeffM | is there also a creation date? |
| 18:48.12 | blast007 | phpBB tracks the registration date |
| 18:48.50 | blast007 | but at least during the phpBB2->3 upgrade I didn't bother keeping the token data, so it would only be since that upgrade |
| 18:48.55 | JeffM | can you query to see how many accounts have a token date with in 7 days of the create date? |
| 18:49.00 | JeffM | ok |
| 18:49.02 | blast007 | sure |
| 18:58.04 | blast007 | okay, maybe I can't |
| 18:58.15 | blast007 | seems that the token date is reset to 0 when the token gets used |
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| 20:02.54 | JeffM | oh wells |
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| 20:16.05 | JeffM | should probably write down all that crap that was talked about yesterday. |
| 20:25.15 | BulletCatcher | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/20111013.html.gz has yesterday's chat log to refresh your memory. |
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| 20:43.20 | JeffM | thank you |
| 20:44.29 | JeffM | I talked to strayer in an IM for a while and I think he understands the data I'm looking for |
| 20:44.52 | JeffM | heh, the log ends on hats |
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| 21:41.19 | Foooey | hi guys |
| 21:41.25 | Foooey | I found a list here :http://web.archive.org/web/19970618014444/http://reality.sgi.com/crs/bzflag_future.html |
| 21:41.56 | JeffM | a list of what? |
| 21:42.42 | JeffM | from 1997...... |
| 21:42.44 | JeffM | really? |
| 21:43.23 | JeffM | none of that is really meaningful anymore |
| 21:44.00 | blast007 | flags on buildings - we'll get right on that |
| 21:44.18 | JeffM | interesting that chris mentioned ramps yet tim is oposied to them |
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| 21:44.25 | blast007 | yeah |
| 21:44.28 | JeffM | tho I doubt chris really thought about the implecations |
| 21:44.53 | Foooey_ | hi jeff |
| 21:44.59 | JeffM | hello |
| 21:45.05 | Foooey_ | thanks for your invite before |
| 21:45.16 | JeffM | IRC is just where we talk about stuff |
| 21:45.22 | JeffM | anyone is welcome to come talk |
| 21:45.25 | Foooey_ | cool |
| 21:46.05 | Foooey_ | i was thinking about the thread i joined in on, and about contrinuting |
| 21:46.28 | Foooey_ | but skills are probably limited for what you need |
| 21:46.56 | JeffM | are you a game designer or publisher or developer? |
| 21:47.37 | Foooey_ | none |
| 21:47.53 | JeffM | then there isn't much you can do but wait |
| 21:47.54 | Foooey_ | But I think my strengths 'may' lay in the areas attracting talent that you need, and documenting progress |
| 21:48.11 | JeffM | umm ok |
| 21:49.41 | Foooey_ | i'm not sure how it would work, but i can imagine that their may be large amounts of info that may need sharing - if you have someone like me doing that on the teams behalf - that could free more time up on your side to do the real work |
| 21:49.55 | JeffM | honestly I don't think a 14 year old document from someone who quit working on the game is really viable. |
| 21:50.37 | JeffM | there are technoligies for sharing info, but there could be documentation work |
| 21:50.57 | JeffM | but at the design stage it would be very important for the documenter to understand what he/she is writing. |
| 21:52.19 | blast007 | also, we aren't spending our time on documentation or "sharing info" as it stands right now, so it's not going to "free up" any time for use to do other stuff ;) |
| 21:52.28 | blast007 | us* |
| 21:52.39 | JeffM | the design process is just sharing info and discussing it |
| 21:52.44 | JeffM | that's what the time needs to be |
| 21:53.15 | JeffM | right now it's not even that, just talking about what direction to go, as in new project, try to fix bz, or do nothing |
| 21:53.16 | blast007 | are we talking about bzflag or the possibility of a new project? |
| 21:54.27 | JeffM | I haven't seen anyone in our recent discussions make a case for keeping bz |
| 21:54.38 | JeffM | but maybe they are asleep |
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| 21:55.10 | JeffM | perhaps you should get a real IRC client |
| 21:55.24 | Foooey | sry lost connection - i'm using http://webchat.freenode.net/ better suggetsion |
| 21:55.27 | Foooey | >? |
| 21:55.31 | JeffM | yeah a real client |
| 21:55.32 | blast007 | a real IRC client |
| 21:55.34 | JeffM | not a webpage |
| 21:55.39 | Foooey | ok |
| 22:02.33 | JeffM | it is interesting that we can now talk about a new project openy and people don't get all upset, in the past it was somewhat heresy to do so. |
| 22:20.11 | brlcad | finds it upsetting (actually just uninteresting) ;) |
| 22:23.31 | JeffM | duely noted |
| 22:23.52 | JeffM | you have power tools, you are lucky |
| 22:25.19 | brlcad | I don't have dinner yet, though, that is also upsetting |
| 22:26.03 | brlcad | or a new phone, still waiting on ups |
| 22:26.08 | brlcad | that is also upsetting! :) |
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