| 00:11.22 | joevano | had a tornado rip siding off our building @ work today |
| 00:16.18 | blast007 | eeep |
| 00:19.04 | joevano | the girls up in client services watched it through the big picture windows in front... duh, head for cover |
| 00:19.33 | joevano | ripped the furnace and air conditioner off the building next door |
| 00:19.57 | joevano | (they were on the roof) |
| 00:20.27 | Nidhoggr | yeah, watching tornado through a big window is not the smartest thing. :) |
| 00:29.37 | joevano | hehe... just found a video of it http://on.fb.me/rmte3w |
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| 00:38.11 | Nidhoggr | I think that guy's hands are shaking from holding a tattoo gun all day long. |
| 00:39.00 | joevano | s |
| 00:39.40 | joevano | s |
| 00:40.56 | joevano | y |
| 00:41.23 | joevano | gah, mjy ipad client is possessedjk |
| 00:41.50 | Nidhoggr | I missed hanging out on #bzflag. It's been a few years. I tried to play today but my handle is registered and I don't know how to make the client authenticate global. |
| 00:42.01 | Nidhoggr | or if somehow my old handle was biffed and someone re-regged. |
| 00:42.08 | Nidhoggr | what client are you using on your ipad? |
| 00:43.22 | Nidhoggr | I have limeIRC on my ipad. don't really use it though. |
| 00:43.40 | echelon | oh ok, thanks blast007 |
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| 01:05.04 | moiree | Nidhoggr: Tried http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ucp.php?mode=sendpassword already? |
| 01:05.17 | blast007 | he got in |
| 01:05.27 | Nidhoggr | had to log into forums |
| 01:05.39 | blast007 | just had to log into the forum once (he hadn't logged in since the phpBB upgrade in Jan 2010) |
| 01:06.11 | Nidhoggr | I wonder if I can find my old maps. it might be fun to throw one up. secretplace maybe. |
| 01:06.49 | Nidhoggr | although I like the one that had the big building. I forget what it was called. |
| 01:06.55 | Nidhoggr | I was using it on dragon.org for a while. |
| 01:07.21 | moiree | You mean Missile War 2.3? |
| 01:07.44 | Nidhoggr | no... it was a giant building that had rafters and a roof. |
| 01:07.56 | moiree | japanese castles? |
| 01:07.59 | Nidhoggr | nope |
| 01:08.04 | Nidhoggr | I'd remember the name if I heard it. |
| 01:08.16 | blast007 | "Basement by Corndawg" ? |
| 01:08.19 | Nidhoggr | yes |
| 01:08.27 | blast007 | wayback machine FTW! :) |
| 01:08.35 | Nidhoggr | ! woot ! |
| 01:09.00 | blast007 | moiree: older maps :) |
| 01:09.29 | Nidhoggr | does anyone run the map from secretplace anymore? |
| 01:09.30 | blast007 | http://web.archive.org/web/20040401012616/http://stats.bzflag.org/serverlist.php before I even hosted maps |
| 01:10.29 | blast007 | Nidhoggr: I don't see "secret" or "spiral" on the list at all |
| 01:10.31 | Nidhoggr | I forgot secretplace map was called spirals |
| 01:11.07 | Nidhoggr | see if I can get scipio to come back and play some games, too. |
| 01:11.51 | blast007 | on that wayback page, it says "Now playing Spirals 3.0 by BZDoug." |
| 01:11.56 | Nidhoggr | yeah. |
| 01:12.21 | Nidhoggr | I think we started out on an earlier version and moved to 3.0 at some point. |
| 01:12.33 | Nidhoggr | I can't believe it was 2004 |
| 01:12.48 | blast007 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=684976&group_id=3248&atid=423059 |
| 01:12.56 | Nidhoggr | does the map maker still exist? |
| 01:13.16 | blast007 | dunno. I haven't heard anyone using that name, anyway. |
| 01:13.53 | Nidhoggr | there is a version 7.0. wow |
| 01:15.46 | Nidhoggr | does bzedit only run on windows? |
| 01:16.01 | blast007 | bzeditW32 does, yes |
| 01:16.12 | Nidhoggr | no mac osx version, eh? |
| 01:16.19 | blast007 | we have a newer editor that's partially finished called BZWorkBench |
| 01:16.24 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 01:16.31 | blast007 | cross platform |
| 01:16.34 | Nidhoggr | nice. |
| 01:16.46 | Nidhoggr | is it usable yet? |
| 01:16.50 | blast007 | hasn't been touched in a good while though |
| 01:16.57 | blast007 | not sure how far along it is |
| 01:17.00 | blast007 | I haven't built it in a while |
| 01:17.26 | blast007 | http://bzexcess.com/2010/03/bzworkbench-r20937-win32-build/ <--- here's some screenshots of it |
| 01:17.33 | Nidhoggr | I could probably fire up my windows partition, which I only use for ffxi, and play with some maps. |
| 01:18.15 | Nidhoggr | wow. looks nice. |
| 01:18.41 | blast007 | it can't edit the freeform mesh objects, but it can at least display them |
| 01:19.02 | Nidhoggr | I also don't mind downloading the windows bzedit for now and booting into xp. |
| 01:19.24 | Nidhoggr | my mac cries every time I do it, but what's a guy to do? :) |
| 01:19.30 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:19.41 | blast007 | BZWB does build on OSX, last I heard |
| 01:20.05 | Nidhoggr | someone got ffxi to work in wine, but I keep having issues, so I gotta keep my xp partition. |
| 01:20.30 | Nidhoggr | I'll see if I can play with it later. I installed xcode 4.1. |
| 01:21.26 | Nidhoggr | waiting for a text message so I can head to the movie. excited about seeing the last Potter film. |
| 01:22.04 | blast007 | (note that BZWorkBench hasn't been released, so you'd have to grab the source from SVN if you want to build it) |
| 01:23.08 | Nidhoggr | when I am ready to build, I'll come here for info on svn settings. |
| 01:27.03 | Nidhoggr | bzexcess is a nice site. good job, blast |
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| 01:32.27 | soxsccb | blast. |
| 01:50.12 | blast007 | soxsccb. |
| 01:50.20 | soxsccb | msg me pls |
| 01:50.25 | soxsccb | im on this web irc thing.. |
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| 02:20.40 | JeffM | blast007 or joevano can you help Nidhoggr with his auth issues on bzbb? |
| 02:21.05 | blast007 | already resolved, unless there's another problem |
| 02:21.25 | JeffM | thanks |
| 02:21.36 | JeffM | is just reading his messages |
| 02:22.03 | JeffM | oh look, one that says it's resolved :) |
| 02:22.09 | blast007 | hehe |
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| 02:25.08 | kierra | blast007: ping |
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| 06:23.36 | Guest346 | what am i supposed to build bz with on linux for 2.4? |
| 06:28.22 | KTL | gcc |
| 06:28.39 | KTL | just the usual ./configure and make, make install |
| 06:29.03 | KTL | mmm trol alert :) /me gone anyway |
| 06:30.33 | Guest346 | when it built with the default setting i had no sound and certain keys didnt work |
| 06:30.37 | Guest346 | like scroll wheel |
| 06:30.44 | Guest346 | which i use to shoot |
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| 07:20.20 | BulletCatcher | Guest346: You probably need to install the SDL develompent package. |
| 07:21.03 | BulletCatcher | After doing that you should do a "make distclean" then go back to ./configure . |
| 07:24.35 | BulletCatcher | On Fedora Linux a "yum install SDL-devel c-ares-devel libcurl-devel gcc-c++ glew-devel libidn-devel libtool ncurses-devel zlib-devel" command will follow dependencies to automatically install all of the packages required to compile BZFlag. |
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| 07:46.07 | T-roy | hey |
| 10:39.06 | joevano | Nidhoggr: i use iSSH to remote into my server, use irssi there |
| 10:39.21 | joevano | ahs3-: Happy Birthday |
| 11:15.04 | ahs3- | joevano, Thanks, Happy Birthday to you as well |
| 11:48.15 | brad | happy birthday fellas |
| 11:48.36 | brad | ~bday joevano |
| 11:48.36 | ibot | ACTION jumps out from his hiding place and screams HAPPY BIRTHDAY joevano!!! |
| 11:48.45 | brad | ~hapbir ahs3- |
| 11:48.45 | ibot | ACTION sings a variant of Happy Birthday (to avoid royalty fees) to ahs3- |
| 12:22.30 | kierra | Happy birthday, ahs3- and joevano. Hope you have a great day |
| 12:48.37 | delusional | my mountains disappeared and hey won't come back... even downloading a new app won't fix it. |
| 12:50.00 | delusional | delete config.cfg is the only way |
| 12:52.21 | blast007 | you had 'set directory' in your config, then |
| 12:55.22 | delusional | nope.. tried that repeatedly |
| 13:05.34 | Nidhoggr | joevano, I only use ssh on my ipad if I really have to, although it would probably beat limeirc for clients. |
| 13:05.52 | Nidhoggr | oh, and happy birthday. :) |
| 13:09.19 | ahs3- | thanks, brad and kierra_away |
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| 14:10.46 | brlcad | howdy Nidhoggr ltns! |
| 14:11.30 | blast007 | delusional: you tried what repeatedly? |
| 14:13.24 | delusional | blast, there is no -directory in cfg |
| 14:13.58 | blast007 | wouldn't have a - |
| 14:14.52 | delusional | there is no directory then. when I ran 2.0 and 2.4 at the same time.... my 2.4 mountains disappearedt |
| 14:19.35 | Nidhoggr | hi brlcad@ |
| 14:19.39 | Nidhoggr | ! even |
| 14:21.35 | blast007 | delusional: but only when you run both clients at the same time? |
| 14:58.35 | delusional | that's what causes it... they stay permanently gone from 2.4 afterwards |
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| 16:02.41 | blast007 | delusional: well, then compare your config before and after and see what changed |
| 16:27.27 | JeffM | so blast007 I've been testing fastmap today and it seems to be working |
| 16:27.43 | blast007 | on linux or Windows? |
| 16:27.47 | JeffM | windows |
| 16:27.53 | blast007 | never tried it there |
| 16:28.16 | JeffM | think you could set up a test server on linux with fastmap? then I can debug the client and see what it gets? |
| 16:37.20 | blast007 | JeffM: should be one running at bzexcess.com:10000 |
| 16:37.37 | blast007 | er wait |
| 16:38.06 | blast007 | forgot the important part - the fastmap plugin ;) |
| 16:38.17 | JeffM | heh |
| 16:38.46 | blast007 | hmm, still didn't load |
| 16:54.54 | blast007 | have to build it yet I guess. wasn't in the build system. |
| 16:55.06 | JeffM | that's right we disabled it |
| 17:12.24 | blast007 | JeffM: there, *now* it has fastmap :) |
| 17:12.56 | JeffM | I'll give it a go |
| 17:16.53 | JeffM | hmm yeah it stalls on the second chunk |
| 17:16.58 | JeffM | can you send me the map please? |
| 17:17.19 | JeffM | or can you run a fastmap server with a random map so it's small |
| 17:17.23 | JeffM | I bet that i'll work |
| 17:20.27 | blast007 | http://static.bzexcess.com/boxie_warz.zip |
| 17:20.38 | blast007 | and I'll start a random one now too |
| 17:21.07 | JeffM | thanks |
| 17:21.13 | blast007 | hmm, actually that won't work. fastmap doesn't let you do it for random worlds. I just make a tiny one box map. |
| 17:21.23 | JeffM | I think the core problem is how bzfshttp breaks up big responces into multiple packets |
| 17:21.30 | JeffM | yeah it does |
| 17:21.37 | JeffM | well the new fastmap does |
| 17:21.43 | JeffM | it'll use ANY map data |
| 17:21.52 | JeffM | since it asks bzfz to generate the cache data after load |
| 17:22.08 | JeffM | as long as it's public it'll build a cache file for it |
| 17:22.24 | blast007 | ah, guess that's what I was thinking of.. the public part |
| 17:22.30 | JeffM | yeah it has to be public |
| 17:23.02 | blast007 | it's back up now with a random map |
| 17:23.46 | JeffM | yeah that worked |
| 17:23.51 | JeffM | so it's an issue with long responces |
| 17:24.00 | JeffM | I'll try to dupe on windows with yoru map |
| 17:26.46 | JeffM | yeah dupes here so that's good |
| 17:34.46 | JeffM | ok I think I see the problem |
| 17:34.52 | JeffM | I'm sending out the data too fast |
| 17:35.15 | JeffM | throw a breakpoint in the data send function and step it and the entire map transfters |
| 17:35.24 | JeffM | adds some throttling :) |
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| 17:51.32 | Pimpi | is there a deadline for .2 yet? |
| 17:53.02 | JeffM | not really |
| 17:53.06 | JeffM | kinda seeing how it goes |
| 17:53.15 | JeffM | not sure how many people want to work on it |
| 17:53.27 | JeffM | if you'd like a task please put your name by it |
| 17:54.45 | JeffM | I'd like to get services moved soon tho |
| 17:55.20 | JeffM | but that may end up waitning until your leagues move |
| 17:55.39 | JeffM | since they are probably the big chunk of servers still on 2.0 |
| 18:04.36 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22080 10/trunk/bzflag/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:04.37 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: make sure that we keep servicing outbound network data for non player connections every loop, NetHandler may have some buffered data. |
| 18:04.37 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: don't try to add more data to the NetHandler TCP buffer if it isn't empty for non player connections |
| 18:04.37 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: add throttle system to non player connections ( default to no throttle ) |
| 18:04.49 | JeffM | blast007, update to that and try fastmap |
| 18:05.11 | JeffM | bet webreports will be closer to working now too |
| 18:14.07 | blast007 | JeffM: with the random map or the large map? |
| 18:14.14 | JeffM | should work with both |
| 18:14.17 | blast007 | ok |
| 18:14.25 | JeffM | I got the large map working here |
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| 18:44.06 | Pimpi | hmm, guess my last comments didn't make it here |
| 18:44.21 | Pimpi | i didn't follow league discussions recently as i'm on holidays, but the last i know is that they would move by the and of month |
| 18:44.28 | Pimpi | i'll return home tomorrow evening, but we'll have a big party here next week |
| 18:44.31 | Pimpi | so next month i'll be back taking tasks |
| 18:50.23 | blast007 | JeffM: it worked |
| 18:50.27 | JeffM | cooleo |
| 18:51.45 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22081 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/fullbuild.sln: fastmap is back in the fullbuild baby! |
| 18:51.46 | JeffM | can someone add it to the makefile please? |
| 18:51.57 | blast007 | I'm gonna test it with webReport too |
| 18:52.07 | JeffM | webreport has other issues |
| 18:52.16 | JeffM | I am working on those now |
| 18:52.23 | blast007 | just want two of them loaded to see if it barfs |
| 18:52.24 | JeffM | they are related to auth, not transport |
| 18:52.28 | JeffM | k |
| 18:52.37 | blast007 | can't remember what caused the crash before and if that has been resolved |
| 18:52.41 | JeffM | the transport issue was preventing me from debuging auth |
| 18:52.54 | JeffM | there was some fix you made to nethandler |
| 18:52.56 | JeffM | using the playerID |
| 18:56.02 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22082 10/trunk/bzflag/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:56.02 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: add feature to disconnect non player connections when all sending is done. |
| 18:56.02 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: make redirects force a disconnect; |
| 18:57.52 | blast007 | actually this is probably what had fixed the crash: |
| 18:57.53 | blast007 | [15:37:36] < CIA-5> BZFlag: JeffM2501 * r22014 /trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsHTTPAPI.cxx: dynamicly allocate the ConnectionEvent handler so the event manager can delete it in the case where the app is just killed |
| 18:58.06 | JeffM | k |
| 18:58.17 | blast007 | or somewhere around there.. |
| 18:58.43 | blast007 | r22015 "split con and tick so they can be killed separately." |
| 19:01.43 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22083 10/trunk/bzflag/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:01.43 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: add per connection idle timeouts |
| 19:01.43 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: give connections a bit longer when waiting for the list server to authenticate BZID transactions for web services. |
| 19:01.55 | JeffM | I'll work on it more later |
| 19:02.04 | JeffM | tho techincaly I don't have to have it done till 2.4.4 :) |
| 19:02.33 | JeffM | we'll see how fastmap works for a bit in some production servers |
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| 19:13.24 | delusional | fastmap is back! woot |
| 19:13.58 | JeffM | please test it |
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