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02:35.22Guest589is anyone here an admin on silvercat??
02:35.55Zac_hullo?
02:40.08mrappleyes
02:40.11mrapplewhats wrong
02:40.29mrappleZac_: ^
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15:56.32bradcan you intercept slash commands (specifically /kick) with a plugin?
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16:23.16cataybrad: yes
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17:06.51JefferyMBulletCatcher, every frame? are you sure?
17:07.07JefferyMthere is DR code that checks how Wrong DR is and sends if it's out
17:16.31BulletCatcherI'm pretty sure that PlayerUpdateSmall (which, of course, is not exactly the same as PlayerUpdate) is sent every frame.  Now I have to go look to see if that influences jitter stats.
17:26.07JefferyMevery frame makes no sense that'd flood out the server sending hundreds of them a second
17:26.45BulletCatcherEver run a sniffer against bzflag?
17:26.57JefferyMno but I remember seeing the DR check code
17:27.07JefferyMperhapos it's all very different from what I remember
17:27.18JefferyMthat woudl suck because that would have been a stupid change to make it send every frame
17:27.48BulletCatcherA BZDB variable limits the rate to 30/sec IIRC.
17:28.51JefferyMthat would still be bad, you'd blow out your first 30 in the first 30 frames then wait for the rest of the second
17:28.57JefferyMgets a branch
17:30.13JefferyMthe other poster did say that updates are used for packet loss, and I can't se that happen ether, there is no ID IRRC
17:30.48BulletCatcher_updateThrottleRate is the BZDB variable.
17:34.03JefferyMyeah it uses that AND prediction
17:34.12JefferyMPlayer::isDeadReckoningWrong()
17:34.26JefferyMso if your DR is correct enough it dosn't send out an update
17:35.38Muriellea player cant read the league thread in bzbb forum
17:35.54Murielleis there any restriction ?
17:36.29JefferyMwhat leauge
17:36.43Muriellewait..he is coming to explain
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17:37.09Muriellehi lego
17:37.14legomanhi
17:37.44Muriellelegoman cantread the league thread forum in bzbb,right ?
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17:37.57legomanI think so
17:38.27Muriellecan you view this http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewforum.php?f=106
17:39.03legoman"You are not authorized to read this forum."
17:40.09kierradid you try clicking on any of the forums
17:40.17kierraworks for me without loggin in?
17:40.35legomanThey aren't even there on my screen
17:40.47jh`mayebe the forums are r-rated?
17:40.52legomanlol
17:40.56Murieller-rated =  ?
17:41.06jh`age thing..
17:41.29Muriellethat is why I lied on my age during registration :p
17:41.36legomanlol
17:41.53BulletCatcherJefferyM: Just ran a sniffer against 2.0, and you are completely right.  PlayerUpdate(Small) is sent once per second when a tank isn't moving.
17:41.55BulletCatcherI'll just delete my BZBB post.
17:43.58Murielleprobably lego is bzbb banned:p
17:44.09legoman:p
17:44.14legomanIm so dang evil
17:44.16legoman:P
17:44.29MurielleOOOOH  YES
17:44.43legoman<{
17:46.07Muriellelegoman ?
17:46.19legomanyes?
17:46.43MurielleI think you have to live with this:  you have to give up every league since you cant read their forum :(
17:46.54MurielleI am going to give up leagues with you....
17:47.01legoman:d
17:47.07Murielleuh wait... I have already given up leagues:p
17:47.13JefferyMcan he get to the root?
17:47.19legoman:P
17:47.55JefferyMsome leagues are public some are private, but the section itself is public since it contains public forums
17:50.22legomancant view any forums
17:50.38legomanit says im not "authorised" ^^
17:50.50Constitutionbusteeeeeed
17:50.59JefferyMyeah then you were banned
17:51.03legomanlol
17:51.32JefferyMahh there is a packet order in the state, that can be used for packetloss
17:51.57Muriellehe can get the root at http://my.bzflag.org/bb/index.php but not  http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewforum.php?f=106 ?
17:52.16Constitution[10:50] <legoman> cant view any forums
17:52.24JefferyMdid you ever get an email from an admin saying you were banned?
17:52.36legomanno form of mail
17:52.44legomanand I've no idea why I would be
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17:53.00Muriellewe can find some idea for this, lego :p
17:53.10legomanha:P
17:53.28Murielleactually, there is a thread in ducati that explains u are banned
17:53.39legomanwait, what?
17:53.55legoman-_-
17:53.59JefferyMducati != bzbb
17:54.25Muriellehttp://league.bzflag.net/index.php?link=bzforums&forumid=4&threadid=1776&top=30
17:54.41legomanlol
17:54.45Murielle:p
17:54.45legomanI banned myself:P
17:54.54Muriellenot only...
17:55.07JefferyMsounds like you don't take much seriously probably why you were killed from services
17:55.21legomanlol
17:55.28JefferyMexactly
17:55.29MurielleJefferyM: because you do not seem to get the answer
17:55.36JefferyMI can't get the answer
17:55.39JefferyMI am not an admin
17:55.57JefferyMbut with all the LOLs I can guess the answer
17:56.05legoman...
17:56.11Murielleoh please let us know
17:56.19JefferyMyou would not understand
17:56.22legomanIs it a crime to be young and humorous? :P
17:56.30Muriellejust try to explan it
17:56.48JefferyMcrime? what does bzflag have to do with laws?
17:56.54Muriellei will focus all my force to try to understand
17:57.00JefferyMdoubtful
17:57.10Muriellegimme a try
17:57.39JefferyMnot worth the effort
17:57.56Murielleyou so friendly..great
17:58.02JefferyMblast007 or Constitution can go search out the real reason, take it up with them in private
17:58.24Constitution1... 2... 3... not it
17:58.42Constitutionactually pm me... I will try to help :P
17:58.56Muriellethank you Consti
17:59.17Murielleit is pleasant to see there are still people who are not systematically hating others
17:59.24JefferyMsee that's why I'm not an admin anymore, so I don't have to be friendly to everyone ;)
17:59.32legoman-_-
17:59.35JefferyMoh there is no hate
17:59.38JefferyMhate is wrong
17:59.46JefferyMdisapointment.. sure but not hate
18:00.16Murielleif u prefer to  call ur hate by "disappointment"... it is ur right
18:00.41JefferyMenglish please
18:00.46legomanIt's not this important..  let's stop arguing ;]
18:01.16JefferyMoh I know what hate is, there are things I hate, and for sure those things are not you, at least as far as I know.
18:01.39Murielle"english please"  is it a gramatically correct sentence? where is the verb ?
18:02.12Constitutionthe verb is inferred
18:02.34JefferyMit's a lot better then assuming that "U" is a word ;)
18:02.40JefferyMain't perfect
18:02.47Constitutionbut it is not your place here to criticize chanops' english skills
18:03.19Murielleyou would be better person by giving up your grumpy attitude, jeff
18:03.24JefferyMgoes back to researching CGIs
18:03.43JefferyMMurielle, I am a very nice person, I just get anoyed with some things, we'll leave it at that ;)
18:04.09kierra~wine JefferyM
18:04.10ibotACTION pours JefferyM a glass of the very best pinot noir from the cellar
18:04.19JefferyMtoo early
18:04.22JefferyMway to early
18:04.35kierrasome things defy timestamps
18:04.55JefferyMheh, but that is not one of them
18:05.11JefferyMConstitution is figuring out what happend on bzbb he'll get it worked out
18:06.23Constitutionwell, I would if he would pm me like I asked him
18:06.30JefferyMI mean I can stop helping him if you want.
18:06.52legoman^^
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18:51.06Murielleanyway, you were not very helpful, admit it
18:57.50honeytanklol ;)
19:26.14JefferyMahh coppa violations, that explains it
19:26.29JefferyMso yes.. there is a law against it ;)
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20:01.56JefferyMsadly the problem is that it's criminal for us, not them
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21:26.20mrappleok is anyone else getting these alerts on bzbb http://cl.ly/1e2c34b19f0d631d593d ?
21:28.16JefferyMyou go there but don't see anything new?
21:28.34mrappleno, just curious if they are knew as of the upgrade
21:28.47mrapplei wasnt getting them yesterday (even though i had a new message) but i am today?
21:28.54mrapplealso if you ask me, they're kind of annoying.
21:29.21JefferyMit tells me when I have a new message, has for a while
21:29.27JefferyMeven in phpbb2
21:29.53mrapplewierd. i mustve accidentailly changed something in the prefrences -_- ill go take a look
21:41.27mrapplewhy is there no delete button on your posts -_-
21:41.32mrappleor atleast i cant seem to find one
21:42.29blast007mrapple: it shows up, at least if you don't auth in the game between getting the PM and going to the forum
21:42.48blast007doing auth in the list seems to reset some timestamp, so it won't show up if you join a game and then go to the forum
21:42.48mrappleoh that makes sense
21:43.00mrappleok what about the delete button on posts -_-
21:43.11mrapple(stupid safari double posted :P)
21:45.26mrappleyeah i cant find that delete button. if you wanna erase this post that'd be great http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16545&p=151085#p151086
21:50.45blast007done
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22:22.00mrappleblast007: propane is on mw2! :P
22:31.03mrapplewrong channel. *sigh*
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